We were unhappy. Perhaps we were virgins, or we had enjoyed little in the way of sexual abundance. Perhaps we were in relationships but we weren’t satisfied—we wanted something more, something better, but we felt trapped. Or maybe we had met that “one special girl” and married her, only to have been devastated by a terrible divorce.
Perhaps we tried confiding in our male friends but found they didn’t really understand us, or only offered us clichés by way of consolation. Or maybe we asked our female friends for their take and were given advice that was less than useless.
In the end, inevitably, we turned to that great oracle of the twenty-first century, Google. We typed in a phrase that summed up, in a few words, our own personal psychic purgatory. Something like “How can I meet girls?” or “How can I get my girlfriend back?” We were presented with a plethora of options. Websites on pick-up, forums with long-standing members offering free advice about how to approach girls in the daytime and get their phone numbers.
We saw private Facebook groups where topics such as the best way to extract a girl from a nightclub for a one-night stand were discussed. Email lists where entrepreneurial seduction experts sent us weekly tips as well as offers to buy their advice products. Or perhaps we found the manosphere—a selection of websites dedicated to discussing game but also broader issues of gender relations, biomechanics, society, and politics.
At first we were amazed that such a world existed. That so many men of high intelligence dedicated so much time to an activity that should in theory be simple: meeting and becoming intimate with women. Perhaps, too, we experienced a certain initial feeling of ickiness when confronted with all of this material. After all, society told us that this should be easy. Surely no one but a loser and a reject would be require an ebook that explained something as simple as how to talk to a girl?
But we continued to read and absorb. Some of us went out and put what we had learned into practice. We received brutal blowouts, but we also found ourselves in amicable interactions with women, often for the first time in our lives. We sensed their attraction. We saw hope.
We Became Players
Soon we started collecting phone numbers and email addresses, then dates, then kisses, then blowjobs, and then lays. We were excited. Damn it if this stuff we had read on the internet wasn’t actually working! So we carried on—we carried on approaching. We carried on collecting phone numbers and converting one night stands when we could. We continued dating. We continued putting up with the bullshit and sorting the wheat from the chaff by pushing for fast sex with those girls most into us and discarding those who didn’t comply. We created soft harems. From having no girls, suddenly we had notch counts and were concerned with maintaining a level of quality in those we slept with. Suddenly we were in the game: we were players.
Now things started to get a little more complicated. Having satisfied the itch that got us here – having learned how to get girls more-or-less consistently, the problem of what to do next emerged. Should we continue on the Pump-and-Dump Merry-Go-Round (right next to the Cock Carousel at the 21st Century Hook-Up Theme Park) or should we find a girl we like and step off for a while? Bask in her adoration and enjoy the comforts of a relationship, albeit fleeting?
It is at this point that many men find themselves coming unstuck. Recently I read a post on the Roosh V Forum bemoaning the fact that at any point the community is largely filled with newbies. This is because those guys that come in and get good frequently end up getting into relationships early with their newfound skills. Something like this happened to me, although I’d been gaming for a couple of years before I got into an (ill-advised) LTR with a girl I met through a cold-approach at my gym.
Guys give up the game prematurely for several of reasons. First, pick-up is hard. Let’s not sugarcoat this. If men as experienced as Paul Janka and Krauser are averaging an 11% conversion rate from phone numbers, then it’s clear that meeting strangers in public spaces and having sex with them shortly afterwards is no walk in the park. Second, pick-up requires a high degree of emotional resilience that most guys simply do not have. It’s tough out there on the streets, in the bars. The pick-up artist is perpetually putting himself on the line, perpetually putting himself in situations where he will be judged harshly by sexual marketplace.
Frequently—in a majority of cases, even— the pickup artist will present himself and the market will take one look at him, turn its nose up and say ewww. Of course, there are resources out there to help men get good and limit this, but still, an ability to handle rejection is required. And third, if a man meets a girl who is hot, pleasant to be around and the sex is good, and he spends enough time with her, then sooner or later he will become attached, making it hard for him to walk.
You should not necessarily seek the deceptive warmth of a monogamous relationship, particularly if you have not had a great deal of experience with women beforehand. For a start, the likelihood is that won’t have the know-how required to handle your girlfriend for any length of time. Also, you probably haven’t had enough experience to really know what you want. And finally there are distinct downsides to relationships, many of which I discuss here.
Clarity of Intent
One of the most important characteristics of the successful long-term player is clarity of intent. By this I mean that you should make a decision about exactly what you want from the game, and act accordingly in every situation that arises. Yes, you need to decide. Ideally you should have done this before you got into it, but it is never too late to sit down and write down (yes, write down) how you want your life to look.
If, like many men in this section of the internet, you are disillusioned with women and the prospects for long-term partnerships with them, and you want to be a serial player or develop a harem, then you must ensure that your behaviours are in alignment with your ambition. What this means in practice is that you must develop ice-cold discipline in your dealings with women. Do not see any girl more than once a week. Do not act like a boyfriend to her, by taking her out for dinners or cuddling up on the sofa in front of the TV with her. Communicate through your words and actions that this is strictly a sexual arrangement. Allow her to sense that you have other options. Be absolutely firm in setting out boundaries and don’t waver, even if you like her.
Frequently, a girl who is keen on you will soon throw in a subtle (or not so subtle) ultimatum, implying that if you two don’t get serious then she will walk. I’ll be very clear on this point: however sexy she is, however good the sex is, however much you secretly like her and find yourself at the mercy of beta fantasies involving roaring log fires and walks on the beach, you must resist. Remember: clarity of intent. Do not, under any circumstances, allow her to manipulate you. Once you fall into a regular relationship, you will find it increasingly difficult to get out, your confidence will falter, your game will get rusty and you will end up rationalising that you are better off with her, that maybe she is “the one’”after all.
If you want to be a player, then play, don’t stay. Remember: you must always be prepared to let a woman walk if she can’t accept your terms. Your design for your life has to be more important to you than what she wants. Of course, if you meet a women with whom you genuinely want to form a relationship, then that’s fine too. Just make sure you’re doing it from a position of strength rather than weakness, know what you’re giving up, be aware of the risks and make sure it’s on your own terms.
In this life, no one really cares about your happiness except you—remember that, decide what you want, act in a way that will bring it about, and then protect it with everything you’ve got. There really is no other way.
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This is the way… Let your balls do the acting.
Sorry but I had ti skimm the article. What’s the conclusion ?
game
Beavis and Butthead know how to be players. That’s for damn sure.
I remember it all quite well. Ati first I was lucky, I had good natural game and was attractive enough t o make up for my blunders. Then, after seeing the university dating market, I wondered whch way to go, settle with a girl for longer, take as many women as I could or opt out altogether? After an incident with a girlfriend who pushed too far I opted out. Stayed celibate until I found the manosphere, made sense of my prior experiences and tred at it again. The interest was briefly rekindled with this wole host of information. Ultimately, I found a woman who I could tolerate for over ten years and settled. I may move on again soon, but the comfort of monogamy is warm and embracing so far. A gentle break or retirement? Who knows.
I strongly disagree.
Oneitis does not come from banging a girl more than once a week. It comes from NOT banging other girls more than once a week.
No, oneitis has been the natural historical state of most men throughout world history. Men have had mistresses, but this hardly equates into ‘banging other girls more than once a week’ (which is logistically hard to do outside college). It’s biologically and spiritually healthy to commit to a woman as a LTR partner (note: I didn’t say legal marriage, children, or resource sharing).
Where do you wise alphas find all of these quality women who you rotate on your sexual shuffle board? I’m curious because most quality (who aren’t whores) women I know essentially demand an LTR. If I wanted to (which I don’t), I could cheat, but it would very hard to keep this going consistently and find a stable of replacements while balancing my work schedule. The sorts of women I usually see not demanding LTRs are lower quality than meet my expectations.
I have been in steady LTRs from the ages of 17 to 23, from those relationships I have had double the amount of sex that the most successful ‘players’ I know who have a notch count near 100. Sexual utopia via multiple partners (except for may be the top 1 percent of men with enough time, resources, and charisma) doesn’t exist. Roosh found a niche, but he’s again, the one percent of men.
LTRs (again, absent marriage) are still the best way to go for multiple reasons.
You are all sorts of wrong
Noneitis, not oneitis has been the natural state of most men through out history. A majority of males in species like ours never reproduce. Humans were not different. Social monogamy conventions help democratize pussy.
And don’t confuse compulsive PUA behavior with Alpha behavior. I’m into guaranteeing myself great sex on demand. And neither seeking one night stands ad infinitum pua style, nor submitting to the femdom chastity training that you romanticize as an LTR achieves that.
Why are you letting a girl that has shared herself with other men make demands on you? Is your “quality” girl a virgin or just another entitled coed, who acts as if she’s a catch simply because she’s not as slutty as those sorority girls?
See unlike you, I am not subject to the sexual whims of one entitled vagina. What happens when she’s away, not in the mood, etc? When you want anal and she doesn’t? Well?
You may get laid more in a year than someone who goes out trolling for 10 numbers so he can get one bang, but you don’t beat a man who keeps around a few good options.
Quite simply
A bird in the hand is surely better than 2 in the bush, but a bird in each hand is even better. Maybe you should get to working on an aviary eh?
I mean that’s got to be better than letting some bitch dictate the “logistics” of your sex life.
in the grand scheme of being a player either two things can happen:
1. You keep playing and life continues on
2. You get tired and you stop at a girl or you end up with no girl.
And water is wet.
What’s your point?
I’m not going into the details, but yes, my current girlfriend was a virgin and I tend to target those girls for LTRs. I totally agree that LTRs are only for virgin to near virgin women. Women who hold out the longest are the only ones worthy of respect; and yes, they do exist (the key is to find her early in college).
Social monogamy, contrary to your opinion, is historical fact (at least in Western Europe) documented by numerous historians. Of course kings had harems, and wealthy alphas have always had mistresses, but the LTRs are the norm even for men who had multiple wives. It has been during types of DECADENCE that polygamy and sexual promiscuity was rampant.
For instance, Tacitus (I believe) gives an account of how the Germanic soldiers who entered into truce with the Romans took their marriage vows so seriously that they rejected the Roman harems.
But I’m sure those Goths and Vikings were just beta, or hampered by social ritual …
just summing up what your reply was ole chap
Of course virgins can expect a LTR…. that’s completely reasonable AND fair. But most women are not low count so start realizing your advice does not apply to most western men’s sex lives in 2014.
Also you still run into the issue of sex drive/receptivity. If she’s not DTF every time what then? That’s where the feminist indoctrination which affects all western women becomes a problem. Women once commited to an LTR with the understanding that they had sexual obligation and duties. Now they feel entitled to “enthusiastic consent” in an LTR. But hey maybe your girl is different and gives surprise blowjobs in spades.
And I didn’t say that social monogamy was a myth. I said that for millions of years women’s pickiness prevented most men from reproducing…. and it wasn’t until “monogamy’ conventions arose that sex was available regularly to the typical man.
I don’t need DTF every time (do you think that’s a serious expectation?), but even if I did, the energy needed to keep the alternative of a rotation of three or four QUALITY women at the same time seems exhausting. By quality I mean 8+, charming, and non-diseased.
No thanks, I will hunt and keep the gems rather than constantly having to sift through the mud.
You seem to be interested in the vagina (as opposed to any interpersonal relationship) only, so if it works for you, great. I just don’t think that most men have it in them to keep that sort of game going for more than a few years, if at all.
Exactly!! Male Infidelity is an evolutionary imperative. Female promiscuity must be met with the most punitive terms possible. I believe it’s the responsibility of men to hasten along the demise of promiscuous women. Non virgin females need to be used and shamed to the point of suicidal depression to serve as warning to the other vaginas in a community. Sluts deserve all the terror and humiliation they are dealt. Best advice possible, if it coincides with your state’s laws surreptitiously film and leak every encounter for maximum social impact.
“I don’t need DTF every time (do you think that’s a serious expectation?)”
Yes it is a serious expectation. It is an imperative and needs to be an unspoken law. Her needs aren’t to EVER come into the equation. This is your time, your rules, your home, your resources – she is just shy of a hired domestic and you two have made a transactional agreement. She gets to enjoy the privilege of vicariously shadowing all of your glory and achievement. When she forgets that her her mouth, vagina and anus serve one purpose beyond the most basic tenets of her own physiological survival – she needs to be squarely disciplined with a combination of emotional and physical pain first and then total banishment next. Women must be trained and shamed to keep their ears open, mouths shut and legs spread per their man’s delight. Period. Never concede to her so-called discomfort – ramp that shit up and psychologically put them under heel at all times or you will be the one wearing the yoke buddy.
Yup. Every single time is not only a serious expectation, but a necessity when dealing with today’s feminist indoctrinated women.
When a woman understands and accepts her role and obligation she does not refuse her man sex on a whim. And a quick BJ or an apologetic “Can I make it up to you tomorrow?” replaces the “it’s my body, my choice attitude” arrogance of the modern cunt. Female availability and virginity is the cornerstone of monogamy. At least you understand the last part if not the first part. I truly hope you don’t end up like some aquaintences of mine… jacking off for months at a time, because your twooo love is depressed, pregnant, feeling ugly…. or whatever.
As for maintenance costs… Do you really need 3 8+ women ? I think you overstate the amount of trouble. A single 8 and a 7 with a great ass is awesome and very efficient.
And if I wasn’t only interested in a vagina… I would buy hookers, but by all means keep flinging those reflexive white knight accusations at someone whose trying to save you from choking on the blue pill that is in your mouth.
At first I was going to respond to Dr. Orange with scathing criticism, but then I thought about what it was like to live with such Idealism. It gave me old googly feelings inside. Then I realized Dr. Orange is still in his early twenties, where Ideals take shape, before they can crash and burn. However, what Dr. Orange says is how it SHOULD be. We SHOULD seek to be in quality long term relationships,since as a whole (not just sex) it works out better for both men and women. But the REALITY of modern Western culture, demonstrates that this viewpoint can be costly and damn near destructive to your modern man. LTR always start of wonderful, but ask any divorced, hell, any married man, once the ring goes on everything changes. You might as well put the ring around your balls, you don’t need the circulation anyway, you wont be using them. And, lets not even talk about how the divorce system in Western countries. And, for those of you who think that just cohabiting will suffice, don’t forget about common law marriages, which I believe in Canada comes into affect after just six months of living together. So, Dr. Orange, for many, the player lifestyle is not simply a choice, but a recognition of Realities of modern manhood. But I do believe you should enjoy your Idealism while it lasts, because once it’s gone, you can never get it back!
I will NEVER marry or procreate, so what is the danger of my long term relationship? I’m not attached.
My only fear is that her parents are going to push the marriage card on me, which could destroy everything. Obviously I have no intention.
If her parents have enough money go for it. This doesn’t have to have ANY hindrance on your sex life whatsoever. For sport fuck one of her friends on your honeymoon. How the hell will she know where you are if you tell her you’re going for a run. Just get a big liberal life insurance policy in case she kills herself. Sounds cold, yeah? Think she wouldn’t do the same to you in heart beat? The winning hand plays first. Someone has to be the underdog. These things don’t go well when left up to chance. Keep her under your heel. Make sure she subtly always knows the truth, she has no worth beyond serving, pleasing and servicing you – and it’s an easy job to fill so she best mind herself. If her folks have money – Jump for it man! Good for you getting your shit together this early on in life.
Money (as in net worth) doesn’t mean what it used to … and going forward it will mean even less, unless you are super rich.
For instance, if you have a net worth of 1 million today, what exactly does that mean? A mid-sized house where I grew up costs half that.
Her parents are upper middle class, but she has a useless degree, meaning that she lives with me and is on my healthcare insurance. She cooks and cleans, so the deal is fair.
Right you are. Any girl who is high quality who doesn’t demand a LTR you need to be cautious of.
I know some beauties who actually LIKE a man in a relationship for the purposes of destroying said relationship. They will bait you along, act extremely feminine, makeup spot on, high heels and the sexiest lingerie you can imagine. But as soon as you decide to make HER your LTR she’ll disappear.
How to avoid these girls? Common features are father-less childhoods or a chip on their shoulders about their fathers. This is extremely easy to find out. The next is sexually abused as a child. This is harder.
The main point is any hot high quality woman willingly meeting you and not demanding a LTR be extremely wiry of. There will be a hidden agenda.
I thought learning pick up game was for losers at first. I for some reason thought it was something I should instinctually know how to do effortlessly. Once I saw how many other men were having the same issues as me, I let go of my ego and started to learn. I had no clue about gender roles, frame, approaching, or anything resembling game. Im pretty proud of myself for getting laid as much as I did before the red pill.
Swallowing the pill was hard though. There was about a 3 month period where I was pretty pissed about all this info I didnt know all years prior, and all the pussy I lost because I acted like a beta. Ive never been more angry in my entire life and I wasnt even sure where to point the blame. Women, my parents, feminism, betas (myself included). Itwas awful but when I finally digested it, everything fell into place. Im spinning at least 3 plates at all times and setting goals for upping my game at all times. Much thanks to the authors on this site.
As someone who agrees with the ‘red pill’ POV regarding the nature of the feminine psyche, I find some of the attitudes on this forum extremely depressing and disgusting. The fact that many ‘alphas’ (lol … don’t know about that) here express borderline hatred towards women (rather than an objective, non-emotional understanding of what women are), reveals that said commenters are probably omega males, not alphas. Women are not good or bad, they just ARE. Let’s be clear, any loser can develop good game to attract women; game is just a tool, not a function of selfhood.
Most men here seem to think that their masculinity is defined by how many quality women they have sex with, rather than incorporating that pursuit with more important objective standards (like what have you achieved with your life and how virtuous your actions are). I bet if I met most of you self proclaimed ‘alphas’ in public, you won’t have much going for you other than your ‘tight game’. Would you like a trophy for working out too?
What terrifies most men is making their life into an authentic project (takes reflection to figure out); something which aims towards something greater than themselves. Ultimately, if you concentrate on this, you will attract and keep women (as has been my experience as someone in his early twenties). These are the only types of males, I call men. The rest of you are fornicating, infantile little boys. Grow up, I don’t respect you.
I agree. David Deida said this better in The Way of the Superior Man in 1997, by the way.
While I agree with what you are saying, the right of an individual fellow to pick his path and goals is still his and if a fellow wants to blow his prime feeding his dick, that’s his choice.
What I would like to see though, is the removal of these mental gymnastics around it.
We can complain how women were sold this raw deal by “the system” and how we lampoon women who think they can “have it all” which is to blow their prime sucking cocks and then expect to be wifed up by some simp when the fatocalypse hits them at 37.
But for the “gamesman”, what’s his end game? I don’t find it any better.
And this article has the same kind of mental gymnastics that are fed to the women.
If a fellow just wants to get laid and do and say anything for it, that’s fine. But he needs to be honest with that and honest with himself and drop the bullshit. Just like women need to drop their bullshit. I see the women are screwed up into being cubicle rats who work out just to have a higher SMV solely to get “higher value men” and here I see the men struggling to “be that man” but both parties are fucked up IMO.
Well put.
I love women and they annoy me some times. Flings, sex breaks, one nighters and long term girlfriends all have their ups and downs… so why try them all? I have and I’m loving life.
So u support MGTOW?
I am a MGTOW. Women just follow me.
Your post is full of shit except for one thing. An Alpha male. An Alpha male is a leader. He has authority. Someone that commands lesser males. The kind of male other males wanna emulate. You say that an alpha isnt a man who fucks several bitches a week. On that we agree.
But the rest of your post is shit.
“The fact that many ‘alphas’ here express
borderline hatred towards women (rather than an objective,
non-emotional understanding of what women are),”
Why can’t you be objective and also make a moral judgment? Why can’t you obectively understand what – for instance – Hitler was, and also objectively decide that he was evil?
Because you can’t pass a moral judgment on 50% of the population. It’s patently ridiculous.
Well, christians have no trouble whatever passing a moral judgment on 100% of the population (we are all dirty sinners, it seems). Sure, it may be ridiculous to insist that all women are worse than all men, but moral goodness is not graded on the curve.
Not all christians… Personally. I think women are just as good as men. However, their the other half of society as a whole… I just have a great ability to discern…. We all judge someone…
I think returnofkings is very good about promoting life improvement. I am not sure I have ever been on this website where somebody wasn’t encouraging me, at the very least, to learn a second language.
Second of all, feminism, not necessarily women, is definitely something to hate. It puts men as second-class citizens and emasculates us. Worst of all, the white-knighting government is there with their big guns to enforce women’s power over us.
Furthermore, while women just “are” as you put it, there is the strong fact that a long term relationship yields very few benefits to men. Marriage is about the worst deal any man can engage in terms of cost benefit, and the cuckholding nature of women is well documented. I believe there was an article last week talking about how even though women don’t intend to cheat on their husbands or LTR partners, it is something that naturally happens anyway. How can we ever trust a women enough to be in an LTR knowing these things are true?
You know these things are true because you read an article? The cuckolding nature of women is well documented? Where?
The evidence is all over the current legal rulings. Which no uncertain terms says women are entitled to cuckold.
Well said for the most part sir. Whoever if women aren’t good or bad, they just are. That goes for us……
Too many women these days are shallow and fall easy to so called “game”. For you to say something like this being in your early 20’s, it says a lot about your character. Mature/wise indeed. Way too much alpha and beta nonsense going on these days….
You seem like a knight, not a white knight, just one that’s NEEDED in society these days…
Someone (I think it was one of the regulars at Dalrock, or the author of a closely aligned blog) once offered the following realization: PUAs are not (generally speaking) alpha males, not in any ecological or sociological sense of the word. They are, rather, omega males who have figured out how to pose as alphas for long enough to be able to get a woman to let herself be pumped and dumped by him.
But that’s okay. Some men just want the shortcut to pussy, and don’t bother about achieving the status, respect, acclaim etc. that comes with achieving alpha male status in the wider social sense.
That’s the beauty of the Manosphere. Here, PUAs, MGTOWers, tradcons, traditional masculinists, self-improvers and every minor faction that doesn’t come to my mind share a common intellectual space, for the same gender issues affect us all.
Game is game. And ANYBODY can be gamed. I’m watching the entire country get gamed by lawyers who got voted into office. We saw Germany and Italy get gamed in the 1930s. Russia got gamed in 1917. Japan got gamed in 1920s. The United States got gamed in the 1930s too.
Anybody can game anybody at any time. And if everybody knew game, nobody would be easy to game and the world would be a better place.
Yet people will master game and ……….
use it to bang slutty women who, even without the attention, comprise a black hole of time, money, resources, and oxygen.
It’s nice to know that with all that is offered here, I can take that knowledge and use it to better myself and learn to master words and manipulate people…
…to bang slutty women who, even without the attention, comprise a black hole of time, money, resources, and oxygen.
I can improve myself and my health and appearance, learn to dress sharp and look better (though I’ve always been in good health and good fitness) and become a “power player” maybe like the kind of guys you see working in corner offices…
…to bang slutty women who, even without the attention, comprise a black hole of time, money, resources, and oxygen.
I’m sorry but the way women are today, when I see men build their lifestyles all around them, when you see the 7 who acts like she knows it and leaves a wake of sadness in her path because she wanted an office job and 15 years of sucking cocks by the bag and these guys want to be the cock that’s getting sucked, I see this as being a party to everything that’s wrong with the women.
And then to act as if the women are inferior or something to be derived when everything that is wrong with them is what defines you?
It does not make sense.
Every fellow needs to know what the game is, and the score too. But there is much good that can come of it when every fellow knows it (not just the 10 percent who get to bank 80 percent of the slutty women who, even without the attention, comprise a black hole of time, money, resources, and oxygen). If that much can be accomplished the world can be righted. Feminism has been all about how much men should change when in fact it was women who needed to change but got convinced to change for the worse, not the better. And abiding by that “system” they set up…
“just to get laid”
is to be just as much the problem and as much the human wreckage as they are.
Really on point. Impressive perspective.
Interesting article Troy, and one that was fascinating for me to read. I come from the opposite side of the coin, a natural who discovered “game” as a learned concept through some other men mentioning it to me, as they thought I was deeply steeped in game (I wasn’t consciously, I just did what I always do). My curiosity got the best of me (this was about a year ago) and bam, here I am, now all fancied up with the correct terms and lingo for things I’ve done all of my life but never really labeled.
It is really eye opening to see the mindset other guys come here with, as their starting point.
Great article as always.
Slainte!
A relationship between a man and a woman which emotionally and physically nurtures them is good and worthy, either in a casual or long term relationship.
The problems arise in this post feminist world, where: (i) many relationships are not emotionally nurturing but instead abusive and/or manipulative; (ii) many western men who want a stable relationship do not find worthy women; (iii) many western women do not want a relationship with men but rather just fun; and (iv) marriage has degenerated to the point where only ignorant if not insane men would enter such kind of spurious agreement.
“Marriage has degenerated to the point where only an ignorant if not insane man would enter into such spurious agreement.”
Manosphere Gold, right there.
“but unlike their forebears pre1990s, are still largely unable to find the emotion known as love between man and woman.”
I don’t know if there was really that much ‘love’ I don’t see how. It might have been a lot more play-acting and role fulfillment. Narrative completion. Gazing at college days photos as though they were ninety-somethings while only being in their mid-thirties. They loved their own long, life narrative. ‘Love’ with a woman that you don’t want to see naked and haven’t wanted to see naked for 30, possibly 40 years…dubious. Yeah I’m a pig, who cares? But ‘loving’ a woman who you will specifically avoid barging in on when you know she’s undressed…Well I hope it’s ‘love’ for their sake. I just can’t imagine it. Nearly every married man that I’ve ever known has openly hinted, if not stated, that the sex is less than a dozen times a year. That’s two opposite gendered people in ‘love’ laying together in bed 365 times a year and only having sex 0-12 times from what I can gather. That’s beyond boredom or exhaustion and well into the realm of repulsion. I don’t try to gather that info. anyway. It is freely given. I wish them the best though.
If you enter marriage expecting to get rock hard with the same woman for the next 30 years, then you got it wrong.
Sexual attraction, along with sentimental attachment, inevitably fades with time.
In the past, all healthy marriages became parnerships by 5-7 years.
The thing that bothers me about *most* women is that they seem to think your relationship should center around what they want and feel. How do you help them feel better, how do you encourage them, how to empower them? Once married, things you used to do are expected by them to change… now you should center your life around what THEY think is important. If kids and family are important, then your poker nights should stop. If THEY want to travel, then that’s what you do. I don’t like the “self centered” nature of it all. It seems men are more okay with doing what they want and letting their girl do what she wants… but with women they expect you to put their needs and desires first.
Most of what game does is appeal to the superficial nature of women, their emotions et al. .. Even if part of your game is stuff that benefits you overall, like career focus, health and fitness, appearance, confidence in interactions.
My take on this article is recognizing that you’re selling yourself short when you don’t see your whole plan through when learning game and applying it. Don’t half-ass it.Yet remember that the further you go the better you’d better really be, don’t develop a false self-image of how great you are when you’re not, otherwise it will bite you in the ass.
Peoples: does this clip look legit?
This article hit home with me actually. The first several paragraphs define my experience to a T. Well played sir, well played. It was never ever easy to do but I did it several times. Now I am at the place where the bother is just too much. 44 years old, single, and although I could have it I find that I don’t really want it. Yeah I see the nice body, pretty face, and immediately start getting a woody (not that old that this doesn’t work) but then I imagine the work involved and more importantly what happens when I “win”. Great at first, lots of sex, then drama, sex tapers off, then next her and break up. This is a “win”. Even if the sex doesn’t taper off the sh*t tests must be weathered and game must be kept up and eventually I find I just don’t want too – better to go rock climbing or read or go diving again. These things just make sense and don’t bring drama and bullshit like women do.
I live in a foreign country now and have lots of chances for *cough* “love”. The rewards however are fleeting and rot sets in and moreover I know this going in which makes it hard to enjoy. Without the young mans constant intrusive thoughts to go get some always in my head (thank you middle age) I just find I don’t want to expend the effort. Once a week I go get some (yes paid service) and walk away and don’t worry about it. The other week I did some serious rock climbing and for 9 hours thought nothing of women – just cold, nature, wind, and the rush of getting to the top. Contentment. I wish I could just get rid of the need entirely as I no longer see it as the end all be all of existence. I can get it, have done it, could get it again, but I don’t want too. I don’t see the whole game as enjoyable having played it for several years prior. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t work – it most certainly does and I’ve done it. Pushing the buttons works well and you’ll succeed if you keep trying. Have fun. I wish you luck.
Good food for thought. Decide what you want and don’t let a woman change your mind. That attitude in itself will attract women.
1-Before you enter a LTR: Look at her habits, check her history, observe her friends, her lifestyle and most importantly, her MOM..What is that bitch like and how much does she weigh?
2-Before you stick your cock in ANY slut: Check for blisters on or in the mouth and vagina and at very least strap up to avoid many painful consequences.
3-Before you get too caught up in yourself and your goals: Remember that you came into this world with nothing and you will leave the same way..Make your life count and help other people in real need.
4-Before you have a child with a woman: Repeat numbers one and two.
”One night in Bankok” – that grips me more than would her muddy old river or reclining BOOTY . . .
How to be a player? By not giving a fuck. Avoid attachment. People come and go. Spread semen to many women. What are they going to do, put you in jail? Hey! Free stuff in jail!
Another trait that shouldn’t be left out is being truthful.
For example, a renowned player that everyone knows was recently caught in fraudulent activity. He goes by the name Chris from Good looking Loser..
Here is a recent article that explains while players should always be honest:
goodlookingloserexposed.wordpress.com
Do the men who get their advice from websites like this realize , that if they are actually successful in following it, they will inevitably end up with a lifelong STD? Condoms are very effective only on aids, chlamydia, gonorrhea.
got that sour grape thing going huh?
Surprised its a whole article…I thought it would be just one word…”money”