The time will come with age and wisdom that you will find yourself in a situation where your work or your trade will be the engine, the “Flux Capacitor” of your life. All financial resources will derive from your profession, all material assets will be begotten from that career, and your entire standard of living will depend on how well you do it.
Enter “The Den” aka “The Study.”
The “Den” or the “Study” I viewed as a filmotography novelty. A hold back from 1950’s television where the stalwart, WASPy pepper-haired white male would retreat to in order to avoid the mundaneness and theatrics of his familial life. Ward Cleaver would retreat there. The Father of the “Father Knows Best” would go there. And presumptively to just get some peace and quiet.
The truth is, however, that the Den is NOT a place of retreat, but rather a place of composition, ponderance, and innovation. For that is where a true man takes his otherwise uncommon life and turns it into something great. A stamp on society. A difference in the world. A revolutionary technology. An influential book. A true and genuine “difference” for the positive and general advancement of society.
The key, however, is to make men of today realize the importance and vitality of having his own den, and just what a contribution to society having such an asset is. Let’s be clear what a den’s true function is: It is to ELIMINATE all exterior sources of distraction so as to permit a man to dedicate and focus 100% of his efforts towards creation.
This is why back in the day a child, a woman or anybody else would NEVER enter the “den” or the “study” of the father who was currently occupying it. He was there doing SERIOUS FUCKING business. You didn’t have to understand it. You didn’t have to appreciate it. All you had to do was respect it. When your father was in the den, that meant you did NOT DARE to interrupt him or disrupt him. And now, as an older man, I understand why.
It was merely an issue of efficiency.
A man loves more than anything else his family and his freedom. It’s why he worked so hard. It’s why he went to college. It’s why he learned game. He wanted a family with a loving hottie spankable wife and children he could mold and pick on and the free time to do it. However, in the historical sense, a man had to provide for such a family. That meant dedication, service, servitude and loyalty to an employer.
However, some men of the entrepreneurial nature discovered the benefits of self-employment. And when upon realizing the freedom benefits this career path provided, he would dedicate himself to this pursuit. The irony, however, was that he was at home. And as loving children and wives are prone to be, they would want to interact with him, which (in an ironic sense) would threaten the engine that provided the freedom that man had with his family.
Naturally, the man being the conduit at which this paradox met, would be adamant that his family DARE NOT interrupt him or disturb him in his study. He WAS doing the utmost of important work, the sole purpose of which was to allow that man the maximum amount of time to spend with his family.
And thus the lesson for today.
Every man, especially of the ROK variety, needs his own den. It is the sole source of freedom from an otherwise abusive employer. This assumes an entrepreneurial spirit of most men, but when you do get to that stage you will realize that the den is the most efficient vehicle by which you can achieve your means. A den allows you to (uninterruptedly) achieve your masterpiece, establish your business, run your empire or free yourself from your employer. However, the key is to make sure it is yours and 100% yours alone.
No woman
No child
No family
No friends
are allowed into your holy and sacred den. That den is a place of purified work, dedication, and focus so that you may achieve your life’s work and (hopefully and consequentially) your riches, granting you the freedom to spend your finite resource of time with loved ones and family.
I know many men love their “man cave,” a place of video gaming and sports-watching joy. But most men should be more focused on their den, as that is the vehicle by which you will attain true happiness.
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Love your work, Cappy.
Great article
The “man cave” is a rather pathetic phenomenon that has deep sociological roots. It’s often snickered at on TV shows but men these days feel displaced in their own overly feminized, gynocentric households. This is the adult version of the narcissistic disease in our society known as the princess syndrome that afflicts all overly liberal minded westerners. If you have no control over your living space, the same can be said about your life. As usual though, the problems stem from the very blue pill men that allow it to happen. Also, avoiding marriage is a great first step towards domicile independence..
“rather”
“avoid marriage”
calling it a “mancave” when he’s clearly talking about a den
go back to tumblr please
Yeah but the man cave gets full of … sports junk, video game console, toys…
Pathetic.
A Den is something else. It’ll have books, a desk, maybe a drawing table.
How the den evolved into the man cave is the point of decline.
…easel and artisan supplies, white-boards, techno-gadgetry, musical instruments, computer (this borders on man-cave)…
I got reloading equipment, tools, electronics spare parts, and other Creepy White Guy standard issue equipment.
“When your father was in the den, that meant you did NOT DARE to interrupt him or disrupt him. And now, as an older man, I understand why.”
When Ward was in his study Wally and the Beav would interrupt him all the time, and he’d dispense his fatherly advice.
That’s because the media is all about “Programming” (they call the schedule “programming” for a reason, a kind of mockery) and they were going out of their way to condition kids against this space.
Well…not exactly a den, but my place of isolation and peace is my garden. Call it feminine, but working there makes me feel relaxed and at peace. Plus the vegetables are healthy and organic.
I don’t think it’s feminine at all. For me starting and maintaing a garden was part of my path to freedom as well as better health, nothing more manly than taking control of ones life.
Not sure why anyone would call it feminine. Men have been organizing and raising crops of various sizes and types for millenia. It can in fact be back-breaking work and hardly the work of women.
Most of our grandfathers kept gardens. Traditional skill.
My grandfather is 80+ years old and to this day he still has his annual hobbies.
Every year he…
– Plants and raises a garden of tomatoes, cucumbers, beans, grapes, etc.
– Makes his own wine and lets it sit in barrels over the winter. Every year there is always wine… and his wine is damn strong too.
– Cures his own dry meat. Think sausage-jerky.
– Maintains relationships with his sons, daughters, grandchildren, and extended families.
And you know what? He is fucking sharp for his age… Many old people I’ve known are kinda dumb daydreamers… My grandfather still tells me stories from his military service, his relationship to my grandmother, and he’ll get into arguments with us young folk and actually make a lot of sense. He’s a Roman-Catholic and I’ve even heard him go off on existential rants in his old age while keeping composure.
I attribute his late intelligence to the fact that he is stubbornly independent in his lifestyle. If he sat around every day having other people do shit for him he wouldn’t be who he is. I beleive that there are great benefits to maintaining these kinds of hobbies later in life.
Your grandfather sounds like a pretty cool guy. I’m always impressed with old people who are active because I run into so many who “give up” about age 65.
I wish I can still see my grandfather. He was 16 years old and part of the Guerilla resistance when Japanese invaded my country. Good for you to still be with your grandfather.
One of the first things every U.S. Marine learns is how to iron their blouse and sew buttons on it.
Gardening is only 1 step away from cooking.
Fine cooking is a man’s world, always has been. Almost all the world’s greatest chefs have been men.
There was an article here once that made the claim that men generally excel in every “feminine” skill. It is true.
I have to disagree there. Yes men are better cooks, but cooking itself is rather feminine. The whole concept of food porn and all of these rich foods is unique to our own century. Men have been made fat and happy by their pursuit of eating well (by that I don’t mean healthy).
I kind of find the fascination with food to be grotesque and animalistic. Like porn addiction or alcoholism.
Men of the past ate a rather plain diet, whereas the lavish indulgance that modern men can afford almost nightly, was reserved for irregular celebration in the past. The meal could a place of bonding and rest, but the excess and luxury we enjoy today is rather new.
Ascetic, healthy diets are manly. No sugar, no excess!
I think cooking is manly. Cooking is a form of independence, and what’s the ultimate form of taking control of yourself but cooking and controlling the quality of food which you ingest into your system. Eating healthy and proper exercise is fundamental in developing a healthy mind and strong body.
I cook all of my own food, I was referring more to the art of cooking for pleasure rather than simplicity. American cooking is a form of mass consumerism and indulgence.
Go abroad and look at how much other cultures cook and eat for meals … It’s small portions and much simpler.
Yeah that is true I have seen other cultures cook in smaller portions, we are lucky/unlucky to have an over abundance of meat in our diet.
Your point seemed to be more that food porn is feminine, but you plainly stated that cooking is feminine.
I can make a plain dish come alive with only a few skillful touches. Even with the basic understand of food and their properties and the properties of heating, I can make a frozen breakfast sandwich come alive.
For example, when it comes to a frozen sausage and egg breakfast croissant, separate the cheese and bread from the meat and egg. Microwave the egg & meat first, until very hot. Then wrap the croissant in a paper towel and stuff it back into the plastic wrapper. Microwave it very briefly, 10-20 seconds, until very warm.
Place the now thawing slice of cheese between the hot bread and eggs, let it melt for a second, and enjoy.
Culinary has led me from cooking to gardening to hunting to butchering. This year I butchered a 250lb. hog from A-Z, shooting it in the head to curing the bacon and grinding 40 lbs. of sausage. I’ve hunted and done the same with 2 deer. What’s more manly than that?
Instead of eating dried out boring ass pork chops, you can learn to cook, and heat the pork to about 145-150 and have it tender and juicy. You can stuff it by scoring a pocket and then putting a breadcrumb/portabella/parmesan mixture in the pocket. You can start it on the grill or the skillet to get a good sear, and then finish it in the oven to cook thoroughly. Make sure you save the caramelized juices at the bottom of the skillet/pan to make a quick jus.
Cooking your food properly, using fresh ingredients properly prepped, complimentary herbs and spices, is not all that difficult once you learn the basics. I went for 1 year and I can’t tell you how impressive it is to invite a woman over for a meal and make her a nice meal.
Dude can I get an invite to dinner? That sounds friggin delicious.
Bottom line I’m thinking is a deft hand in the kitchen is neither feminine nor masculine, but the mark of a high value human. It’s the lowlifes, the land whales, and the wastoids that eat McDonald’s and other processed crap. They hold themselves in such low regard that they don’t demand better from their sustenance.
Agree. Sometimes the male/female dichotomy is simply unnecessary.
For instance, Ellen Ripley in Aliens…
Sure its “masculine” to strap a futuristic plasma-rifle to a state-of-the-art torch-gun and single handedly go to war with a soulless army of hive-minded-insectoid aliens… But I’d still bang her.
It depends. There is nothing more manly than preparing a huge hunk of meat. Men have been doing this since we began controlling fire. No woman was coming near the wild boar men had caught.
In what way is this true:
Also, I have never known a woman to cook for pleasure. Normally, its to feed the family. She does it because she’s at home, rather than expect the man to do it when he comes home from work.
What makes you think you have an over-abundance of food in your diet?
I think in the Western/American World we have an over-abundance of specefically Meat in our diets. We also eat in bigger portions as opposed to other countries especially 2nd and third world countries.
I guess what I am getting at is how do you determine that it is an “over-abundance” and that it is not other countries that perhaps have an “under-abundance”. The impression I get is that you think that we eat too much meat and that this is bad. How much is too much?
You have a point there, those countries also have an under-abundance. Going back to my other point I think its the way the food is prepared here in terms of fast food and the mismanagement of caloric-intake and exercise
Well basically calories don’t matter, it’s rather the nutritional content of your good that matters. I eat tons of naturally reared meat. It’s sweets and soda that I avoid.
Yes naturally reared meat is better than fast foods. In Western Countries The way food is prepared its nutritional value and lack of exercise is what causes the high obesity rates and lowered health.
As a chef myself, I think that hits the ultimate key of the matter. There is a difference in cooking and baking. I’ve met several women who were competent in the kitchen and were capable of cooking, yet not one of them could wow my with anything she had created. Everything came from a book, followed line and verse as if by wrote memorization. When I step into a kitchen there is never a “cook book” in sight. While I collect recipes from others and from media, the kitchen is the place of improvisation and creation, of experimentation in ingredients and flavors to make something no one has had before. The opposite of that is baking, where precise lists and steps must be followed to create a consistent result each time with little room to truly create. Women are good at baking, because it requires no thought. (As a side note, the best recipe I ever got to bed a woman? The spaghetti sauce from The Godfather. Tell me that isn’t manly.)
My husband actually maintains that there are cooks and cleaners. He
Hear hear! Cooking can be a “manly” thing to do. Heck my London Broil has actually gotten me laid a few times. And I always cooked nice and simple (none of that tons of spices crap hey I want to taste what I’m eating).
Homemade whey Ricotta cheese derived from full raw milk – I get women making sounds from that, that of which I will hear in the bedroom.
Yes women can cook and women who cook exhibit a feminine act – but a woman who declares the kitchen “her space” while not allowing a man his space is to be avoided.
When a man can cook but does not have to – that’s even better. But I think men and women cook for different reasons, per the wiring. When I cook, it’s to impress, and it has worked.
For sure. I rarely let a woman cook lest I wind up eating plasticated veggie pasta. My meat feasts have been getting me laid for decades. I only allow women into my kitchen to prepare vegetables and stir the sauces. They can also provide welcome distraction in the form of inane conversation or a blowjob.
I also have them fix me drinks. This is thirsty work woman!
A chef friend suggested the book “The Flavor Bible” to me. You should check it out to up your cooking game.
Everyone I know who is a quality cook also has a developed character which includes other skills and accomplishments. Like being able to draw well, good cooking is a sign of personal depth.
yeah im pretty awesome in everything and every way
There’s always been a huge difference between a ‘tailor’ and a ‘seamstress’. The former has always commanded far more respect than the latter, for good reasons having nothing to do with gender (or perhaps everything.)
Is it any wonder that the great new and innovative fashionistas are predominantly male? that most successful restaurateurs are male? scientists? parfumers? directors? composers? comedians?
Men innovate, women replicate.
I don’t recall our uniform shirt or jacket being called a blouse. We bloused our trousers on top of our boots. But you’re right about the ironing, sewing, washing etc.
Maybe you are old Corps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Combat_Utility_Uniform#Blouse
It’s been about 35 years.
Ooh Rah – Semper Fi Brother, 1st MAB, 31st MAU, K-Bay 82-86
I maintain that there is no skill or craft, masculine or feminine, not a single one which both men and women can do ( because you know a bitch will bring up childbirth ) where the top echelon isn’t dominated by men.
That may well be true, Dad. I know your boyfriends always said that fellatio is best done by men, which must be the prevailing opinion of the echo chamber upvoters on this site.
Interacting directly with nature is masculine.
Except if only care about flowers.
And to the man he said, “Since you listened to your wife and ate from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat, the ground is cursed because of you. All your life you will struggle to scratch a living from it. It will grow thorns and thistles for you,though you will eat of its grains. By the sweat of your brow will you have food to eat until you return to the ground from which you were made. For you were made from dust, and to dust you will return.”
A real man’s garden has only plants that can be eaten and rare plants that can be used to impress women.
Nothing girly about gardening – though I can always tell when a garden is being tended by a man or a woman by how “effective” the garden is.
There is nothing feminine about a garden. Every man with enough space should have one.
Even just a patio can give you enough space for a container garden.
Unless your garden is your business, you’ve missed the point of the article.
My wife and I don’t have kids, but my cat does make it tough to work sometimes (as I work from home in a business I started myself).
Honestly though, I’ve often thought about renting a small storage unit and turning it into a man cave of some sort. I thought it might be neat to do.
As a side note: I write about no-nonsense masculine self improvement over at http://www.conqueringyourlife.com. I used to write a blog called The Alpha Persona – this is the Stage Two of that, I guess you could say.
I have thought of doing the same.
Art of Manliness has an article with some insight into this topic as well. The article “The decline of male space” talks about how all-male spaces in the home, at work, at recreational centres, and in society at large have disappeared.
I agree with this article… How could the next Buckminster Fuller or Nikola Tesla get anything of significance done when they’re constantly surrounded by the inanities of common life?
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2010/01/10/the-decline-of-male-space/
And jabbering women decorating every effin thing in sight.
To all women,
Stop commenting on this website. You are not welcome to this website. This is a website for men.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
I.e. Women and children.
My mini-castle is my … castle. Females have never set foot in certain rooms and I have a cigar room for the visiting gentlemen.
I have a one room studio.
With an attached 2-car vaulted ceiling garage.
Move to the garage?
Millenials can’t afford dens.
Mommy’s basement is the new masculine hot spot.
I saw a bit of a TV show one time (can’t remember the name) where some guys were at a club trying to pick up chicks. One guy who looked mid-20’s was talking to a girl and mentioned that he still lived with his parents. As she walked away he yelled out “but I have my own room!”.
I went out to eat with a post college friend who is a bit older than me. I think he just turned 26.
Anyway his mom dropped him off. I didn’t ask any questions.
Good….these young feminists who supposedly don’t need men will find out the hard way when theres no decent men for them to marry. Although I don’t condone the lazy video-game lifestyle. a man playing video games in his parents’ basement all day is happier than a woman who can’t find a husband.
I think it’s hilarious these arrogant young cunts say they don’t need men, but when they hit 30, they are running into men who are professional world of warcraft players lol.
Heh – let me tell you something. Sometimes I wish I did the basement-dwelling neckbeard thing… INSTEAD OF lamenting not having a date, lamenting not “going out”, lamenting not getting laid.
For all that lamenting amounted to NOTHING at all.
At least if I played games I would have been playing games instead of all that lamenting.
And it was not like I could just learn game because the same “system” that cunted things up socially also outsourced two careers out from under me so I was FLAT BROKE. I barely managed to earn enough to work – work to afford getting to work. I could have played games in the meantime.
(Though it’s not like didn’t have hobbies at all – just saying).
So while we can malign the gamers, what they are doing is entirely understandable.
It’s out of pure cruelty that feminists want to invade this space. It’s not like they can figure “hey, we defeated these guys. They just want to play games. Our work is done here”. No. Now they gotta unleash their bullshit on the gaming world. What’s the goal, drive them off a cliff? Drive them to a violent revolution? Drugs? Strip joints? Maybe the market demand for games is too low and they need to be driven out of the basements into more expensive venues… like to those clubs where instead of playing games they can sit and buy expensive drinks and pay money to look at 6 painted to look like an 8 (and is so solely because she managed not to become a fatass).
“It’s out of pure cruelty that feminists want to invade this space”
Absolutely. A man enjoying himself without a woman present is misogyny in action.
There’s a lot to be said for just managing to not become a fatass. Even that takes discipline.
Yes a den. Scratch the surface of a man cave and you may just find its an amniotic sac
Unless you are married, your *entire house/flat* should be your den/man cave, or whatever. Your regular lays should be relegated to the bedroom, kitchen and rooms of general recreation (i.e. “family” room, or whatever room your fireplace is in.) If she’s staying overnight, she gets an overnight bag. She doesn’t get space in the closet, she doesn’t get a “drawer” in your dresser. It seems practical to you, but for her, it’s a beach head.
The master bath. At my house, that’s for the Master. Why? Because when it comes to bathrooms, she is Germany and you are Poland. I have a large, stone tile walk-in shower that is accessible by invitation. Otherwise, she can put her Female Maintenance Products in the upstairs hall bath and be happy with it. Incidentally, the family that lived here before me had two teenage daughters and my contractors refer the hall bath and the jack-and-jill bath by the names of the daughters. I adopted this, and girls invited back to Stately Wayne Manor sometimes ask why they’re named after girls. I reply, “the girls they are named after were legendary in the sack”, b/c girls are competitive, so I figure, let the Hamster have a work out.
I keep a separate office at home (aside from the one I have at work, which is empty four days a week). It has two desks, an antique sideboard for my files a set of mahogany shelves with Stuff That Is Important To Me on it, two filing cabinets an antique partner’s desk and a mahogany table I use as a desk (my PC screen is on it; it is otherwise bare). An antique wall clock from the house I grew up in is on the wall facing my desk.
About 7 or 8 years ago, I moved to my parents’ home, temporarily, as I can work from anywhere with cell coverage and internet, and my folks were getting pretty rickety. I moved into the big room over the garage (bay windows on three sides), and after about two days, I laid down the law: “If the door to my room is closed, it’s means I’m working and I am to be left the alone. I will come out periodically to check in that you haven’t tipped over, or just so you can have some conversation, but Mistral Has Work To Do, and that work Needs To Get Done so I can continue to stay here and take care of you.” My dad, of course, immediately understood.
End transmission,
Mistral
Agreed. You can’t focus on your legacy and goals with a “his & her shared office” or a den with a play pen in it (even though Legos kickass). Keep that thing locked whenever you’re away from it and hide the key. Someone needs to use your printer when you’re not there because their’s broke? Tough. It’s asinine to question why a room full of a man’s things: alcohol, weapons, business documents, etc. Should be locked away from people. Girls/wives(especially)/kids will hate this, but stay strong.One day the door is unlocked, the next she’s cleaning in there, next she’s putting flower pots in the window, using your computer and trying to make it “kid safe”. Hell I’m single and I know how this thing goes
Great picture cpt. All that wood and natural light is great for peace of mind and motivation
Using your computer to see if you are talking to other girls.
No, because the computer I bought him for law school with my bonus became ruined from all the porn…
+ how much you have in your bank, getting dirt on your relatives by reading your private conversations, etc. Deny deny deny
I live in a very small 1 BR apartment. No den. ROK been preaching the need for logistics, so last month I moved out out of my suburban 2 BR 2.5 BA townhouse and into this tiny apartment in the heart of the city and within 2 blocks of a dozen bars and clubs. Now ROK preaching that I need to have a den???
Dude, your apt is the den. Family wants to visit you? meet at a cafe. you catch my drift
Exactly. For those of us who live in a city, a 250k apartment is a den.
good move
City centre flats are or should be lean and functional. If you don’t have a family why have a house. Or at least rent it out, and get a flat
Trifles.
If you are coming to ROK to be told what to do then you are making a mistake. Think of it like a Pirates’ Code – merely suggestions. Don’t hook too deep into the wording of things.
A den does not have to be a separate room. It can simply be a desk, maybe even just a chair, in some corner. The point being that it is not used to play video games or read manga. It’s reserved for doing Serious Fucking Business ™.
It’s a psychological trick, but it works.
You’lll find it explicated in any piece titled something like “How to Study” for college students.
Point is make your living space conducive to worthwhile activities.
I bet a lot of men’s room are comprised of nothing more than a TV, playstation, and kleenex.
If you want to accomplish things, structure your environment for accomplishment.
What, no Jergens? XD
Perhaps I’m just an introvert who takes himself too seriously, but I always find that organizing yourself internally matters ten times as much as the external. The time you spend sweeping up the porch and organizing the furniture is wasted. I used to have thousands of books and fancy exercise equipment and a nice wardrobe. I got rid of all of it three months ago.
When I get myself together internally (which takes discipline), everything on the outside lines up. So I guess I disagree with you; contrarily, your environment will organize itself or should organize itself when you are alligned.
But you just proved my point. You got rid of all your stuff.
I imagine that leads to a lot less mental clutter, a bit less maintenance, and more physical space… I doubt you did that so you can play more Diablo 3.
I think we’re just disagreeing at the level of semantics here.
Grown men who play video games or watch football have no respect of mine. So infantile.
I respect a beta provider more. And that’s saying something.
What activities for grown men have your stamp of approval?
Come now, good doctor! A few minutes playing Call Of Duty does wonders for the soul as well as hand-eye coordination!
Martial arts, mountain climbing, writing and reading, masonry and carpentry, guns, artistry, understanding the sciences, academics (philosophy, history, language), fencing, yoga (not the effeminate kind), athletics which are mostly individualistic…
Etc.
Join the marines.
“yoga”
Surely you jest?
Modern yoga bares no resemblance to ancient yoga.
It’s like saying pizza is high end Italian cuisine.
Both are important.
Most men’s den now is the bathroom. This is usually the only refuge where you get peace and quiet while sitting on the throne. You get the freedom to read the entire newspaper without being bothered because no one else would want to come in. Enter at your own risk.
My dad always did that. He even built a second bathroom so no one would disturb him.
As Dr. Finch told his daughter, “Hope, you’ve no business being in here! This is my masturbatorium!”
No man should have a “man cave”. You should be the king of your castle. Period. Whether you’re married or not, you should rule to roost.
Jim Florentine did a great podcast on “man caves”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH256GlOeu4
Opie & Anthony did a great bit on it as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oRkOHuBMuQ
Any man should seek to improve themselves. Whether chasing after an entrepreneurial endeavor, a place of solitude to educate and better yourself, or just a place to read a book, a den is valuable. Unfortunately, most new houses no longer have den, instead it’s been take over by the “family room”. That’s why I love older houses. They have character and usually have a den.
Finally, the den should be a separate room on the main floor, or on the second floor separate from the master bedroom. Enough of this BS of men being banished to a basement enclave.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! This has got to be one of the most funniest podcasts I have ever heard in my life. So brutally honest and yet hilarious.
Thank you Classic Liberal.
“No woman. No child. No family. No friends.” > yes, yes, yes, and yes. nice work.
I call it ‘my office’…
I’ll sign this. I never really thought about it in that way but when I close the door to my “home office” as it’s called in my house everyone knows not to disturb me unless it’s an emergency that can’t wait.
I created it because a lot of the work I do requires delicate calculations and if I mess up people could end up dead or seriously injured. Anyone who has sat through hour long sessions of stress calculations will know what I mean when I say that interrupting me will be like waking up a bear from hibernation. I usually go through at least 15 sheets of paper to reach a conclusion. If I’m interrupted I have to go back all the way to the start to follow my train of thought.
Greetings from Venezuela, I’m reading almost every article on this page and I find this a treasure. I am actually 19 years old so i think i am in the right place and in the right moment. I always thought about things like having my own den ( I live alone in my apt so i think i alredy have one), working on a mercedes sl 74, travel around the globe and things like that. I have great hobbies and I’m learning new languages like french and german and I’m studying for my engineer degree. Now i’m going for the serious reading habit (I didn’t read enough I think). Since two years ago i found things like TV and videogames a waste of time. So it seems that i’m halfway there to be what i need and want for myself, being a fucking king. But the only thing that i really seriously need to work on is game. I only had a shot with a hot girl once and i think it was pure luck. But looking back i was playing the less effort game, and telling shit like “Women don’t really know what they want” as she talked me about breaking with her boyfriend and bam, that shit worked very quickly. But seriously i really have NO GAME at all. I really need help on building game and i would like to know how to start working on that.
Chateau Heartiste for fun articles and occasional game tips
The Black Philip Show (youtube, listen in order) for mentality
YOUR OWN INSTINCT for game.
Digest the Black Philip mentality, and you’ll be 80% of the way there.
Work out, study hard. Be an arrogant prick toward women, and you can get laid. Wear a condom always, take the used condom with you when you leave so you don’t end up in baby jail.
Don’t worry about game yet. Use this time to sharpen your skills. You’re not gonna be able to score that top quality pussy for at least another 5 years. But still, try because nothing is better than a 17-19 year old woman’s tight little body.
As you get older, stay with young women. Keep to the 1/2 your age + 4-7 year range. When you find one that isn’t a piece of shit, preferably a virgin, keep her, but always keep your game tight. If you want kids, make sure she’s had them all by the time she hits 27
I turned my computer room into my study/den.I own a 4 bedroom house and its just me.I have to say its one of the best things I’ve ever done for my sanity.Nice big ass cherry desk and two monitors.One for gaming (world of tanks)and the other either plays music or C span in the mornings mostly on the weekend.I styled it kind of like that movie the mechanic.Not the new one the one with Charles Bronson.I have a fish tank in there also lol.Me and my springer spaniel max just chill out.Now if I could get the wall that slides back and reveals my weapons and safe it will be perfect haha.
My home is mine.
I have a room for computer stuff and filing. It has a big table with the monitors and keyboards on. It has filing cabinets and stationery and stuff like that for when I do serious programming.
Downstairs in my basement, I’m slowly kitting it out with tools and workbenches. It’s a slow process. Down there I’ve done things like restore wooden 1930’s side-tables and chessboards.
I have a den with a locked door. In it is an ancient desk (from the mid-1700’s), two floor-to-ceiling bookshelves, and an old manrobe. There is also mans stuff like: bandoliers, knives, and swords. Real, not the cute stuff from ebay or shit katana’s mass-produced by the Japanese with drop-forged steel in World War II.
I am thinking of mounting one of my swords on the wall in my lounge/living room above the fireplace. Probably the Russian Cavalry sword.
My home. Not for somebody else to make “suggestions” about. Mine. Bitches can keep their mouth shut or GTFO.
I don’t care if it ain’t kid-friendly. Go ahead and cut your fingers off kid. You’ll learn quick or die.
This is off the subject, but can the mods either get rid of Forney or get a bigger server? That dude keeps bringing out the wrong kind of trolls.
The tattoo article has been hijacked by women.
Roosh if you are reading this, you need to do something.
Set up an existing area of your pad as a work/study area. Don’t get a big, overexpensive apartment just so you can have a “den”
Yes, it would be a good idea to separate work space from play space.
Roosh, if you are reading this, your website (in particular the tattoo article) has been hijacked by women. So many women are on that article.
Please do something about this. Thanks.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Holy krap, gotta go and read it!!
As long as no one replies to their comments they will go away.
Ironically, I found this site by doing a search for Jezebel’s recent staff exodus. I was lead to the Nick Denton article, so that may be why there is a more female presence.
Being “discouraged” from commenting is not the same as being banned. I have been reading this and Roosh’s site extensively for about a week and even purchased “30 Bangs.”
It’s all over every fuckng comments section. The women and white knights have just about taken over.
I don’t have a den, but I get a lot of reading done in the bathroom and nobody seems to want to come in there when I’m using it (or for a while afterwards).
I vehemently protest the feminist inspired ‘man-cave’ that men have unwittingly taken upon themselves to use in masculine language. First of all, the term ‘cave’ denotes something or someone that is ‘primitive’, and sense men have been really the only standard bearers of architectural design and inspiration, the very nature of the house is masculine. It’s amazing that these bitches have the nerve to think that their living-spaces are somehow ‘normal’ and ‘beautiful’ whilst ours are ‘caves’ in essence primitive. The audacity of modern women and men to even utter that bullshit, as if, if women left to their own recesses would have come up with such grand concepts such as the house, or the castle let alone marvels such as the Taj Mahal, Versailles or the Sistine Chapel.
The onus is on men for 1.) Taking pride in being referred to in primitive terms and 2.) Not checking them. Without the genius for architectural elan that those of us with penises possess, women would still be shitting in ravines, sheltering themselves under trees and wiping their arses with their hands. Yet somehow we have ‘man-caves’. I’m in agreement with this article, but it’s also important that stop using surreptitious feminist language to describe our spaces. Man-cave is a term that has crept unnervingly into the English lexicon a la’ the bra-burners. It wasn’t long ago that working class men referred to their hard-earned abodes as their ‘castles’, that a ‘man was the king of his castle’, now amongst Gen-Xers and Millennials we have ‘man-caves’. Yes gentlemen that is 50 years of feminism for you
The more I read your posts the more I believe we’re cut from the same cloth.
From the second I heard of the concept my mind reeled. Here’s this $400K house a man is paying for, and he has allowed his wife to relegate him to a single room in it, usually the basement.
And of course, what does out blue pill SWPL beta mangina fill that room with? Sports garbage, stereotypical furniture and trinkets plastered with some team logo in what has become the only corporately acceptable expression of masculinity… spending money to watch sweaty men in high definition exerting themselves yet performing no real work.
Oh and of course, gotta have the kegerator to serve ice cold coors light/budweiser, the official drink of the american beta.
And after the blue pill circle jerk inside the gilded cage, they return to the main area of the house… enemy territory, as it were. The area of the house full of throw pillows, candles and the other nonsense dumbshit women spend beta-boy’s money on.
Mangina opens a way-too-expensive stainless freezer to pull out a microwavable macaroni and cheese (of course cupcake didn’t cook), heat it up in a way-too-expensive stainless microwave, and sits down on the couch next to his fat cunt wife watching sex and the city or some such nonsense… watching her cackle away at the depiction of the beta male manginae and you go girl old decrepit whores that some faggot neo-liberal marxist jewish pajama boy wrote to promote their brand of degeneracy
Our SWPL mangina tries to feel up his fat wife’s tits or cunt through her mommy jeans. When she resists he gives up, goes to the computer, jerks off to some degenerate tranny porn, climbs into a throw-pillow encumbered, pink/flower sheeted bed, and drifts off into a dopamine-overdosed slumber, the MSGs, artificially-induced sport-watcher adrenaline high and post-orgasm contentedness carrying him away.
Very important, you see. Tomorrow he has to wake up to get to his cube farm, to generate some more money his fat lazy cunt of a wife can spend.
Welcome to the Anglosphere.
That was both depressing and inspiring lol. I know people that fit that exact description , an aspire to never end up there.
I know a lot of people like that. Nearly every married man I know.
It is sad because the term “man cave” to me implies that the rest of the house is hers. That being said I’ve seen some enviable ones on television. Is this site a kind of “man cave.” As a woman I hope I am not violating its sanctity.
I have to ask…since the den is your domain, who cleans it? I respect the man who’ll do it himself and I would never go in there, but 18 years of marriage has taught me that eventually every glass will be in there and the trashcan will be overflowing.
Refreshing and important article. Since I was a kid, I needed my space, I wanted to have my own office, where I can make my plans, and develop strategies to implement them. Many of todays’ men neglect the importance of such a thing. Having your refuge, your den or whatever, gives you an extraordinary power at prayer & contemplation. You see things more clearly, remafications start to unfold just by simply thinkin’ about one thing. You desire one thing, then you can see what you have to do to get it. I recommend every man to have his own office, sanctuary, den.
Since I live alone the whole house is technically my den, but in any case I always want to have two rooms dedicated for specific uses. One is my home studio, the other my home gym. The PC that houses my DAW on which I do music work has no internet connection, to preserve stability (no viruses and other shit) and to prevent distractions.
Having a ‘sacred’ space where to indulge their most important thoughts and work is vital for men. I would never ever end up like one those hen-picked manginas which you guys described, relegated to some basement with a little fridge and a porta-potty while some cunt uses the house he sweated blood to afford as her personal doll house *shudder* That wasn’t the case even when I was married, let alone now .. haha.
This article does two important things: it distinguishes between den and “man-cave”, and it lends great description to a place where a man can see his dreams become reality.
When your dreams and work are physically rooted in a specific location, your brain automatically makes a connection through repetition and, over time, you will notice that you become much more productive in this area. An inspiring thing indeed.
On another note, I think this term “man-cave” is a pathetic excuse for masculinity. Any man that allows his woman to call his space a “man-cave” is not deemed fit to be called a man. If the house is owned by the man, and he generates the income, then he should be in charge of “naming” every goddamn area in that house.
“What’s that honey? You like my man-cave? How about you go take a brake in your woman-cave outside, I’ll let you in in a couple days after you’ve had some time to think about what you just said.”
Well they do say a woman’s place is in the home. So traditionally this would be her space, with the woman responsible for cleaning and decoration. As such, while the majority of the home would be the responsibility of the woman (who has nothing else) certainly a portion of it would be reserved for male activities, be it the garage, the shed, the study or the drawing room.
I have a Den…Office or Study. My only rule is women are not allowed, unless naked and in high heels…and invited.
I have a den that I have old books in–what would be considered non-PC by today’s standards, some antique crystal decanters with scotch and whiskey and a nice chair. It’s nice to just have an escape from technology and distractions of the day.
If you’re a Brit, then this’d be your shed.
My den is my garage. not just a two car suburban garage but a full shop with a 10k lbs. lift, welder, plasma cutter, air compressor, 2 levels, parking for several cars and other toys. it’s where i go to relax, and create and build away from everything. I turn up the music and just work on my projects. i spend my weekends there anytime I can and even occasionally after work. It’s the most relaxing and fun thing I can do because I’m creating and repairing things. My mind gets away from all the BS and it just gets to do what it wants to do.
Don’t have a den or man-cave, but I have a studio, which is even better. That’s where the creation happens. And my wife knows better than to even step in there.
When you plant a flower garden is when you go into the feminine.
Why wold you ned a den if you just keep woman out of you’re house? No child either, keep soliary place for you’reself.
IT is a place of innovation, but real dens don’t need any rules, anyone else in the family is bored to death of seeing research and work on stuff.
This is the best article ever on ROK. Food at the proper time (Matthew 24:45). I was looking at houses to buy today and considered my den/library as a luxury. It’s a necessity, for the reasons pointed out.
Another thing, if anyone conceals their identity by using a pseudonym, you shouldn’t be on this site.
A very good piece. Self-employment is often associated with location independence in the manosphere. While some men may have the temperament to frequently change locations and work out of coffee shops, I always get more done in my apartment’s living room, which double as my den. One reason I’m wary of marriage and serious relationships is the impact it’ll have on my ability to work. I’ll have to create the right conditions and have a real den/office beforehand.