To Pull Hot Girls You Must Make Every Interaction Physical

Game, like any other discipline, is all about pushing your boundaries. You must never reach a comfort zone. If you do, then you are not hitting your full potential, and you must deliberately seek to make yourself uncomfortable again in order to keep getting the best results you’re capable of.

I’m talking in particular about pushing for the close. Guys, you must always push for the close. If you’re not doing so — and you’re not experiencing a number of harsh blowouts along the way — then you are doing something wrong and you should look at your strategy and rethink.

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One problem for men first getting into the game is that, once they’ve got over their initial, sometimes crippling fear of approaching and interacting with women, they enter a honeymoon period where the simple fact of getting favourable responses from women feels so awesome that they don’t push for the close for fear of messing up.

Psychologically, it makes sense. If you’re in a bar talking to a cute girl and she’s responding well and giving you positive signals then that feels good. You are getting validation—perhaps for the first time—from a female you have just approached. Your cerebral receptors are rewarded with a warm, fuzzy feeling of achievement. Awesome — why would you want to mess that up?

But here’s the thing. Your goal is not to get positive female validation in bars. Your goal is to have sex. Therefore you must always push forward, even if doing so gets you blown out.

Think about it like this. How much value would you place on having sex with a girl? In the context of pick-up, it would have to be 10 out of 10. After all, sex is the endgame. Now, how much value does a nice conversation with a polite female have? On the same scale, maybe 2/10 or 3/10 at most?

Fuck nice conversations. Go for the close. What does that mean in practice? It means escalating, both verbally and physically.

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When you’re in the bar or club, ensure that when you are interacting with girls, there is no doubt that there is a sexual subtext. I don’t mean to say that you should show your hand too early by being overt, or telling her she’s beautiful, or anything chodey like that. But what you must ensure is that she knows you’re hitting on her. You can accomplish this through the course of a set with the following tools:

  • Strong eye contact
  • Physical proximity
  • Touch (what game geeks call ‘kino’)
  • Flirtatious and suggestive or downright sexual banter
  • Leading behaviour
  • Making out

Too many guys are content to have safe, friendly conversation with the girls that they meet, take contact details, and assume that what they’ve done counts as a pull. While I would always encourage anyone to rack up all the phone numbers they can collect for the simple reason that you never know 100% which lead is going to come off, I would also counsel that unless you are loading your sets with sexual spark, and making yourself stand out from the horde of chodes that surround most semi-cute girls, then most likely you are wasting your time.

Let’s consider the final two elements on the list—leading, and making out. The two go hand in hand, and they are often at the outer limit of new guys’ comfort zones.

Leading

Leading is actually very simple. After you’ve been chatting for a couple of minutes (or even sooner, if you think you can get away with it), put your hand out for the girl to take. then say “we’re going to the bar,” or “come on, we’re going out for a cigarette,” or “come over here — there’s something I’ve got to show you.”

Then take the girl to wherever you’ve indicated. Voila — you’ve now successfully isolated, and you can continue gaming away from her friends in comparative privacy. If your target resists, or makes an excuse not to come with you, then don’t worry—simply carry on chatting and try again a few minutes later.

Making Out

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Of course, you should have been building up for the make-out throughout the interaction by initiating kino from when you first met her, pulling her close, pulling her hair playfully, and, assuming all’s going well, kissing her neck and ears.

The quicker you can do this stuff the better, as you are raising her buying temperature while simultaneously showing that you are simply “one of those guys” who is sexual and comfortable with it. Once you’ve established this, then the notion of sleeping with you will seem a lot more natural to her and less of a conceptual leap.

Remember: Girls hate to feel awkward and they will disqualify anyone who makes them feel it as “creepy.” A lot of game is about avoiding awkwardness.

So, when you’ve got her alone, the easiest way to initiate a make-out is simply to put out your hand, cup her cheek gently with it and pull her head towards yours, angling her gently so that your lips are level and approaching one another. Then kiss her.

If she turns her head—a fundamental fear that stops many guys even making a move—then don’t sweat it. Just smile, say something like “cool, I was aiming for your cheek anyway,” and just keep talking.

Then try again. Believe me, if she’s still there and she hasn’t walked off yet, then persistence is key and it will pay off.

The Bottom Line

Let’s be clear: just because you have isolated and made out with a girl doesn’t mean that she will sleep with you, or even remember you after a couple of shots when the DJ has dropped that new Avicii cut. But think about it like this—if she won’t even make out with you, then she how can you possibly expect her to sleep with you?

In this sense, a make-out is a decent marker of attraction, and so in a club situation it’s something you should always be aiming for at the very least.

Of course, once you have made out then you should escalate again, by trying to get her back to your place for post-club “drinks.”

Always push to make the interactions you get into physical. Again, to stress the point, even when you are successful in this it doesn’t mean you will get sex. But I speak to too many new guys who get excited about phone numbers from girls with whom they have had no physical interplay at all. The reason? Most likely they were to reticent to push forward for fear of spoiling the nice friendly conversations they’d been having.

Don’t let this be you—remember, it’s always better to get a slap round the face then be friendzoned.

Read More: What To Do On A Date To Maximise Your Chances Of Closing

154 thoughts on “To Pull Hot Girls You Must Make Every Interaction Physical”

  1. “If you’re in a bar talking to a cute girl and she’s responding well and giving you positive signals then that feels good. You are getting validation—perhaps for the first time—from a female you have just approached.”
    Until you realize she is “talking to” (if not doing MUCH more with!) five or six other guys, thanks to the advent of texting/smartphones/Tinder, and is just dickteasing you for a steady supply of drinks and attention.

    1. agreed, plus women on a ladies night out love to tease us. they hold hands on the dance floor and gracefully dismiss guys in desperate attempts to get their attention. it’s way easier to score when she sends the ‘wanna watch a movie’ text at midnight versus getting geared up to compete at a sausage fest. women who are out on a ladies night are there to have fun and dance with their girlfriends. approaching them is futile unless they feel you’re worthy of supplying the drinks.

      1. …or unless you are the bar owner, famous athlete, actor, someone with lots of money.

        1. yes, if a shirtless Usher or Henry Cavill stepped into a nightclub panties would dissolve at an alarming rate.

        2. Celebs have astronomical amounts of social proof. There are men as good looking or better than the 30 something Bradd Pitt, but they are not a celeb, so their odds are nowhere near his, he has literally millions of women giving him social proof, they do not.
          The nice thing is that you can stake out territory and establish your own version of that in time, if you have the interest to do so. You won’t pull every chick in the world but you will in that territory.

        3. this will vary from average joe’s. women are attracted to a man’s social status. if a fat slob who’s not a celeb but has the fancy job title, salary, and money to show off his chances of marking his territory in a nightclub or a city are highly elevated. which leads to women flaunting to the potential meal ticket, like Tony Soprano. he’s fat and disgusting but women desire to be on a powerful man’s arm.

    1. Not so much. Eliot Rogers bought into that way of thinking and people died as a result.

    2. Also @GhostOfJefferson:disqus what “dime piece”? The one with a horn sticking out of its head and wings to help it fly over rainbows?

      1. You sir are a meanie! I allow men to hold onto their dreams! Heh

        1. I keep hearing guys say dime/10 too easily these days. First off, I definitely believe no such creature even exists. Second, how can you spot some random girl in a public place fully clothed and overvalue her so much? One would think you’d have to see her totally naked in a well-lit room and do a complete head-to-toe inspection to check for any flaws and imperfections before giving her the highest of all mythological honors!

        2. Agree on evaluating. That said I do not believe in scales with unachievable metrics. A ten is a nine that has everything you find perfect in a woman. Almost all men agree on a nine but few on a ten, for that reason,

        3. …until she opens her mouth and start talking nonsense, then that number 9 drops to a 7.

        4. Just talking looks man, just looks. If you are looking for meaningful conversation, you’re doing it wrong.

        5. For LTR yeah. To get your knob wet on a Saturday night? Not so much.

        6. Run her around the room and check out her gait and stack. Put her up on a table and inspect her teeth, coat and musculature…

        7. That is way more effort and time than I ever want to spend on a woman. As long as I can pound her and send her off in no more than half an hour I am content.

  2. If you want her body, and you think she’s sexy, c’mon baby let her know!!

  3. Keep it physical.
    1. When you first meet, smack her on the ass. This displays confidence, dominance and sets the sexual tone immediately.
    2. A blowjob in the club bathroom is a definite sign of interest from her, despite what you may be told by others.
    3. Have another girl draped on your shoulder when you stoke up a conversation with her. Nothing sells like pre selection.
    4. When isolating her, guide her by taking the back of her neck in your hand and pushing her firmly into an isolated area. Chicks are consumed with rape fantasies and strong dominance queues, so help her out and get the juices flowing in her mind.
    5. Keep the conversation sexual and personal. For example, if she asks if you’re married reply “Fuck you.” The panties will practically fall right off of her.
    6. When she asks what you want to do, light a cigarette, unzip your fly, nod your head towards your crotch and grin. She’ll know where to go from there. If not, have the other woman who is draped on you guide and teach her how to please you.
    Just a couple of tips from your old uncle Jeffy.
    Follow them at your own peril. Just saying.

    1. Id be careful about following step 1 unless you look a certain way or have the confidence to pull it off. I can’t imagine what would happen if a neckbeard or some garden variety beta decided to smack some girl in the ass. Although I would like to observe such an interaction taking place.

      1. Heh, it wasn’t serious advice, except maybe a toned down version of the pre selection e.g. – she sees other girls wanting you, she will want you.

      1. Yes. But that’s real advice.
        I was just goofin’ around, this is my “first” Friday of the week and I am bored.
        Tonight is bike night actually, and it is sunny and warm. There will be two bajillion chicks showing up looking for a piece of bad boy alpha. They’re as predictable as the sun rising.

        1. I used every piece of advice you laid out here and got laid five times last night. Thanks bro!

        2. Did you ensure that you slapped her face and kicked her out of the room with your foot on her ass when you were finished? I forgot to include that one, is why I ask.

    2. Hmmmm
      You know I’ve tried some of those things and I don’t remember them working :-
      Of course I was in a state where memory is not quite good when I tried those things.

      1. People take me way too seriously. Heh
        I have many times been overtly sexually forward. Usually goes nowhere, but sometimes….

        1. I knew a guy who told me that he had a thing for girls whom he simply asks for sex; he said that he could spot them easily. He was very comfortable to be around and playfully sexual with girls in the classroom. I didn’t doubt him.

        2. Here’s the interesting thing of course – how could he spot them? Did he tell you?

        3. I didn’t implore, but he said something along the lines that they looked cheap and slutty – which for him wasn’t a bad thing. Really, if you had heard him say it, you just wouldn’t be able to not like sluts anymore. He could just as well have been talking about a cute puppy.

        4. You said classroom. Women mature quicker than men, so these girls will have been surrounded by mentally younger guys, aka chody boys. If there’s one guy who talks about sex in a very open way, he’ll be solely associated with it and many of the girls will end up going for it.

        5. Who told you women mature quicker than guys? A woman, a feminist or a man with no dick?

        6. You are right. Most people were about her age, say 20. He was around 35 already. It was a private university.
          Yeah, he obviously could have been a phony – like anyone, unless I see them actually do it. But if he was, he was a damn talented actor.

        7. -_- Girls reach puberty earlier smart boy. There’s about a million statistics on it, and I teach teenagers and I see it every day. The girls are starting to see themselves as women, while the guys their age are still picking their nose and laughing hysterically when someone says “hard”. The girls are therefore naturally attracted to guys older than their own age. No dickless men involved.

        8. Much as I respect your rigorously scientific study there my experience is at odds with yours.

        9. If you see the physical changes bob, girls do mature earlier than boys. I see it everyday, even with my own younger brother. There is a girl that is only a day older than him. You could easily think she’s 18 while my brother is only starting to grow two or three beard hairs. Both are about to be 16 years old.
          And this pattern repeats itself with mostly everyone that I see in the streets.
          Now, If it’s about psichological and mental changes, then the difference is not that great, except that the girls are more entitled, but we already knew that.

        10. I am not talking about physical differences. Generally, when people refer to the maturity of boys versus girls they are referring to behaviour. Speaking of which, I just hung out with a group of teenagers for a week. Without doubt, the most mature was the boy.

        11. I can relate to that. When I was a kid, I always was the most mature and responsible, being older most of the time.
          Of course, to the girls that translated to…boring.

    3. Obviously kinda tongue in cheek advice here but I will say that I have grabbed girls by the throat and fake choked them whom I just met. Most guys would be so afraid to do that and would think they would catch a charge. NOT if you have the right frame.
      I also grab their asses alot because I’m an ass man and if she has a nice one I am going to have to talk to her about it……with my hands.
      I would say 90-95% of the times I have grabbed a girl’s ass that I just met she has been cool with it or gave me cues to do even more. Now the last time I remember a girl giving me shit after I grabbed her ass the 2nd time I simply looked at her like she was stupid and said this
      “You should thank me. In fifteen years no one’s gonna give a shit about your ass.”
      That completely reframed it and set her straight. So like I said with the right frame you can damn near do anything with women.
      I’ve also made out with a few college girls directly in front of their boyfriends. I’m usually quite direct with my game so it’s all 100% genuine desire. The first time I made out with a girl in front of her boyfriend I was expecting to get punched or something. I mean hell I would at least respect the guy for it. But nothing ever happened so I just treat the girl like she doesn’t have a boyfriend and she loves it.
      Now keep in mind I’ve done alot of these sorts of things in the bars and in the nightlife. Also at places where I worked and so I had some authority and social proof. If I was gonna hit on a chick during the daytime somewhere I’m not going right up to her and choking her and slapping her ass lol. But I’ve done this shit so much now that it’s almost like I have this 6th sense letting me know when to escalate. Believe me I am trying to escalate all interactions with women as quickly possible or tell them to fuck off if they are wasting my time.

      1. There’s a number of women I want to choke during the day and it has nothing to do with game.

    4. In response to #3, some of my best times in university were heading to the bar with my roommate and our two hot lesbian friends.
      Social proof is catnip to the little pussycats at the bar.

    5. Im not making this up… NONE of thesee will EVER work… I promise you that if you try all of these at once, she will sneak away to tell someone that she is creeped out and that she wants the police to take you away. Women NEVER want to be raped. EVER. We dont think about it happening to us. The only reason we talk about it so much is that we are so scared of it happening, because its unfortunately very likely.
      If you do these, women will only look at you as some creep.

  4. To be honest i’ve just resorted to getting head in the back of my car from 4-7’s (depending on how drunk i am at the time) who i pick up at my local strip. works well. The 4-7’s you can kind of do whatever you want too without any complaints. Plus they usually know the deal. Bagging hot girls is cool but at the end of the day it’s just a hole

  5. Excellent article Troy. One of the best game articles I’ve read here. I’ve previously disagreed on some of the game articles here as they usually promoted men to pander and act like a clown for hoes that often have nothing more to offer than a wethole.
    Confidence is key in any interaction with women. As long as convey your romantic/sexual interests in a bold, unapologetic way, you’ll be 10 steps ahead of the average rank and file simp that she’s so used to.
    Value your TIME. If you feel the interaction isn’t going anywhere or she reject you, EJECT quickly and move on to the next hottie.
    When it comes to making out, always make sure she’s isolated from her friends as they could slut shame her out of jealousy/insecurity and thus blowing your chances on sealing the deal. For the love of God, don’t get her number, give her YOUR number/business card and tell HER to call you.

    1. Value your TIME. If you feel the interaction isn’t going anywhere or she reject you, EJECT quickly and move on to the next hottie.

      Not just your time, value your ATTENTION. If you’re spending your brain feeding your attention to someone who’s not giving you anything back, move on. Women do not deserve to get your attention for free, period.

    2. Not so sure about waiting for her to call you. Girls’ attention span is just a few seconds. Once another guy comes into the picture, she’ll forget all about you thanks to the ubiquitous smartphones.

      1. Man you would be such a player if smartphones didn’t exist. Thank god you now have a way to excuse your failures.

        1. I have to agree with him. These girls have the attention span of a rock thanks to social media. If you were on your game in the first place she’ll be receptive to your call. If she isn’t, next her ass & on to the next one.

        2. In my experience girls have always had a short attention span. This isn’t a new and sudden evolutionary development. In my view, blaming an inanimate object for your failures is quite pathetic.

  6. Because of pop culture and pua teaching most guys to be clowns to pickup women, I’ve started doing very well in the last few years by being serious and cold WHILE still moving forward. You say hi, not getting excited. You talk, while not getting excited. You pull her closer like it doesnt matter. You eventually kiss her like its nothing and go back to your beer. Then you say “lets get out of here” like you could do this with anyone but you want to do it with her. It seems to get them more interested than anything else. I just cant imagine acting like a happy go lucky ‘friendly’ person works as well unless she wants a safe person to lock down.

    1. Solid. Most PUA material seems to come from big city blue state writers, who go on about being a dancing monkey fool for some stank on the rod, and I am convinced that they would have no idea how to get the hot ones in flyover country. Dressing and acting like a clown will get you mocked by most chicks out here. Your style works wonders though, there is a lot of power in cool indifference. Not Clint Eastwood shit, just talking and acting like you’re the boss.

      1. I live in BIG D Dallas. It’s all about the numbers. You can throw PUA game all day and night long but in this city of plastic surgery and superficial bullshit, you must meet a woman’s eye candy criteria or else the PUA tactics are a waste of time. Trust me, I’ve tried along with my group of PUA friends whom I met on…yup..you guessed it, PUA Dallas Forum.

        1. Dallas is big city, and leans blue though, or at least purple.

        2. Gayness is celebrated, bitches who spend someone else’s money @ Tiffany’s is encouraged, and being a hooker is an enterprise. I have no counter to your point though I do love this state.

        3. Not sure how old you are David. I’m also a Dallas guy. What you say is true… you need to be over 6’2″, ripped, and wealthy to pick up young girls here. That being said… Once you are in your 30s + I think it is much easier. Don’t stay on McKinney ave… move up to the addison and Shops at Legacy venues. To me it is much better and the girls are much more receptive to quality… they already have half their x husbands money so aren’t as into your portfolio.

        4. Plano @ Shops … I’ve tried it a few times, met mostly 40+ women, and you are right, they already got the x-husband payment plan going and don’t need your money. I am 41, and I haven’t done too bad but it takes work like it would anywhere else. Like most guys, I’ve never met the unicorn I thought I would.
          I tried Black Finn in Addison, I think it is closed now, and it was too loud and uppity back in 2008.

        5. The cities (the fashionable areas) themselves are concentrated pure hypergamy.
          Girls flock into them for rich suckers.
          They’re not representative and I don’t advise people try city game

        6. I lie a lot. I tell them that I am Jerry Jones’ right hand man or my adoptive brother is Lebron James, something along those lines.
          I also dress really well, I find sales @ high end clothing stores like Stanley Korshak, or Dolce, however I drive a 1994 Toyota Corrolla. I fake it and it works sometimes with the women who are desperate to land a guy with resources.

        7. Haha
          I’ve mentioned on here before, I have a pal who’s living on his Mum’s couch and who hits the city like James Bond pretending to be a pro footballer.

        8. I’m sometimes in the dallas area, and suburbs like plano and addison are married with children boring. You end up shooting pool and drinking beer and talking about sports.

        9. yeah….I remember that..talent scout for Manchester City…I used your idea…talent scout for the Dallas Stars. I got a girl all gooey eyed when I told her that one. Who says you can’t learn anything on ROK ? 🙂

        10. I’ve done fairly well in the Mckinney Ave uptown area. I can walk to 4 good hotel bars (zaza, Ritz, Crescent) within 5 minutes and there is quality at those places.

        11. I.like your style – I’m all for lying, and pretending you’re something you’re not. It is a game after all.

      2. Dude.
        Dude…. OK I won’t call you dude. But…
        You really need to make that post into an article. It’s time to start speaking out against urban blue state clown game. I live near Seattle and seeing what a “man” must become to be acceptable to the women around here has me wishing God or Putin would just nuke the whole planet right now simply on the grounds that civilization is too stupid to go on. Clown game needs to be shamed. Who else likes clowns? Children like clowns. Clown game just hooks you up with women who have the minds of children. Fuck that shit.

        1. What surprises me is the number of men who think it’s the only way. I always know when they say that, that they are big city or blue state. Every single time. And for where they are, it may be true. But outside of the giant cities being masculine and hard ass confident wins the game every time. Have fun, talk, even joke, but do it like a boss, not some faggy metro sexual and flyover girls will take a number and stand in line to talk to you.

        2. That’s all I’m saying.
          If a masculine man can’t pull a hot 8+ on OSU campus, he should probably commit suicide. I used to have women walk up to me, as I was walking down main campus on a Saturday or Friday night, and offer to take me dancing. Bought me drinks. Had two jump in my car and take me to a club and buy me White Russians, went out with the prettier of the two the next day boating. Sight unseen. Minimum 7’s.
          It’s a whole other world out here.

        3. really? Ohio State was the place where Daddy’s little girl could be a drunken whore on a huge campus, get away with it, and still go home on the weekends to get the laundry done. A lot of the shit we see in the bigger cities happened there because the campus is/was so huge and anonymous.

        4. Yeah. It’s not even close to big cities in my opinion, too much competition.

        5. Farm girls
          There’s one in our village. She’s sublime. Incredibly polite too

        6. Smaller towns in Texas are that way… and a little less so Dallas and Houston. Definitely need to be confident and have a I can take any girl home I choose attitude.

        7. I’m in. We’ll start at the Stube and move steadily across High.

        8. Maybe flyover state is different, but clown game is the only way to pull hotties under 28 where I live in Pennsylvania. Your “class” or “style” would be completely invisible to them here. Sideways hats, tattoos, mindless outbursts, etc. are what gets you laid here.

        9. Sounds awful, I don’t know why you men put up with that kind of thing.
          Doubt my “class” or “style” would be invisible to them though. When everybody around you is acting like a court jester, then the person that stands out is the one who is not.

        10. Maybe if you’re driving a luxury car or something your good man game will work, especially on women in their later 20s and up. But these girls in their lower 20s have too short of an attention span for any kind of clever/witty humor or good man game. I think I’m ready to tap out in the U.S. I don’t think the effort is worth the reward anymore. I just got back from Mexico and I am totally shocked about how much healthier the culture is. Obviously Mexico is a fucked up country in many other ways, but as far as the social culture goes, it blows the U.S. out of the water.

      3. There’s 2 kind of girls I always liked
        The very posh
        & and the very low socio-economics.
        The middle is so dull

        1. try dating an engineering chick…I almost puke whenever I meet one at conventions.

        2. bland and drunk. Every now and then I would meet one who was semi attractive but would be so boring and uptight that it would take weeks to get a kiss much less a finger-in-vagina.

        3. I bet they dress like they’re actually trying to blend into the wallpaper don’t they

      4. I run a lot of game in san francisco, the bluest of big blue cities, and I use Fred D’s flashless calm style and it works great.
        It’s not just a flyover thing at all.

    2. Back before the flood of internet dating sites, I had just moved to a new city and was a bit desperate so I put up an ad of craigslist with a title something like “Detached Aloof Asshole” and a grumpy, sarcasm drenched paragraph. I got so many responses I was shocked. Not all fatties either. This was long before I had heard of game and had my observations validated that women are nuts and yes, AWALT. But, yeah, serious and detached has always worked well for me.

      1. It’s funny actually how you can actually speak direct titles of game concepts to women:”Aloof, detached, asshole,” And other descriptive adverbs and adjectives about PUA culture even right to a girl’s face, and have it work in your favor. Just act what you preach and you’re on your way.

    3. The PUA stuff is for guys that girls dont find attractive. They have to “create” attraction with games and tricks, similar to how the fat girl in the group is usually the most sexually suggestive. Whatever gets the job done, I guess. If it works it just shows how generic women are.

      1. I don’t think guys who are natural alpha’s on physical characteristics understand what a different world they inhabit. Its not their bike, or the way they dress, or other shit that can be “taught”. My buddy was alpha, all he had to do was show up and say the stupidest shit like Joey on Friends. Clown game is an attempt to get in the chicks face for those who aren’t natural alpha on physical traits. Its always been like that. It turns the male into a game show host, which is kind of degrading, but he gets to approach without the chick going into bitch face shit test mode. That’s the value, and you don’t need to buy the $100 champagne.

        1. Thats why I said whatever gets the job done. Any effective method to get what you want should be utilized.

    4. Shit I’m serious and cold even when I just want to go out for a fucking pint and I got women bothering me.

    5. This! I do the same thing (serious and cold); give them the “been there, done that” attitude. Do not treat them like the special snowflakes they think they are. Do this and you’ll throw their hamster out of whack. A little bit of negging helps too.

  7. cool article, too bad it comes too late for me. I feel too old for this shit and I prefer enjoying with friends when I’m in a bar than putting my coolness and my pride at stakes while playing petty games of seduction with princess-mentality bitches.

    1. I don’t blame you at all. Sometimes I am in the mood for hitting on women , sometimes I am not. As I got into my 40s I just am more selective as to who I hit on. I would waste hours on just sexy girls, but now I try to minimize time spent by hitting on ONLY those sexy girls that are having a good time or making eye contact with me which does not happen all too often, 3 times per year at best.

      1. I can relate. Being 38 myself, I find it a waste of time trying to hit on women who don’t show an obvious IOI. After all that effort and come to find out that they have no interest in black men at all is a complete waste of my time and effort.

        1. some of the women at public places have no manners or any social skills and do not know how to even interact with a man. I was leaving lunch a fairly attractive, 6 face, 7 body, girl was sitting in tight shorts on a bench in front of the barbecue joint I was in. She looked up for a second, didn’t smile, then looked back down at her phone. I was about to smile and say hello but I kept on walking after the split second bitch stare.

    2. agreed, no need to lasso your c*ck around at a sausage fest. it’s sad seeing guys come up with grand schemes and master plans to desperately hit on a women like pepe le pu, with the lady already predicting his every move to only reject him after a valiant effort. stuff like that is what boosts ladies egos even more (especially fat ugly chicks).

      1. I’m married, and I don’t cheat. One of my favorite things to do in a bar is to act grossed out at the hottest girl there and watch her reaction. It’s not like I could get with her if I were single or even if I wanted to, but the look of surprise and WTF on her self esteem always makes me laugh. Many times its fun just to hit on the ugliest girl with her simply to make the hot one question why its happening.

    3. I’m with you. I know that if I try to put on this game bullshit it won’t be natural, it won’t be me. When you go to a country that has a more natural and genuine dating/social scene, it’s almost like finding the pot at the end of the rainbow. On one hands it’s so liberating to know that such a things exists, on the other it’s regretting to know that you’ve wasted so much time in the U.S. trying to put up an artificial game just to put women on a pedestal and have a chance at them.

  8. For the ‘leading’, it works even better if you play it in a way that she thinks she’s catering to you; “Follow me to the bar, so you can buy me a drink.” “Join me outside, I’m want to try one of your cigarettes.”

  9. Walking home from the gym tonight, sunny evening, half a dozen or more different bored housewives driving past in their 4x4s couldn’t take their eyes off me.
    Summer is fucking here Brothers!!!

      1. Funnily enough I didn’t feel violated either
        I’m not SJW enough… damn it

  10. the title of the article is not entirely correct. To pull hot girls you must meet THEIR attractive man criteria filter. Once you get past the filter, what you say after has to be related to being physical/sexual. If you do not meet her “looks”, meaning hair color, body type, height, weight, tattoo criteria then it won’t matter what you say.

    1. With online pickup I’d agree. Women don’t give a shit about what is written in the profiles, compatibility matching questions, messaging. Its all about how good looking they think you are. Its cold and darwinistic, like a woman ordering sperm from a bank. But with pickup in face-to-face social environment, you have greater chance to shape the outcome with what you say and do. Especially considering that much of the female population has child like emotional responses.

      1. greater chance? maybe, but not always. I’ve talked to women at bars for 1-2 hours, with flirting, escalation, funny/cocky, push/pull, etc…only to have them say: “It was nice to meet you, I have a boyfriend already. Have a good night.” – meaning she wasn’t into me from the start but was having a “good” time with my clown act.

    2. Maybe you should write an article on pickup. Seems like you have the experience for a very realistic article.

      1. even on Fakebook, these women post pictures of their MCM (Man Crush Monday), HSS (Hot Stud Saturday) . Take 2 random girls, Girl # One thinks the Calvin Klein model is gay, Girl #2 thinks he’s hot. Girl #2 thinks a tatted-up nose ring guy is hot , Girl #1 thinks he’s gross.

  11. So you’ve approached, isolated, escalated, and made out. What then? Do you immediately tell her to “go somewhere else”? Repeatedly? Do you wait till the end of the night when the club is closing and everyone is wasted as shit? This last part, the pulling, is where I trip up the most, unsure of which method is most effective to bang.

      1. Makes sense. It is at these times that I think my IQ is more a blessing than a curse, complicates everything. Thanks for the feedback guys.

    1. Just do what according to the media you’re apparently instinctively programmed to do – rape her in the toilets.
      She’ll expect it anyway, as all men are rapists.

  12. First and foremost, ALWAYS hold your frame. keep things physical with subtle acts of kino here and there. As she begins to relax, whisper sexual innuendos in her ear, but not too overt; as you do this, look at her eyes and mouth, if she is smiling keep pushing along and touch her in certain areas (e.g. waist, back, neck, arm, lower back, cheek) a bit more overtly. before you know it, you’ll be making out with her. Then, line her up, get her in your cross hairs, and fire away!

  13. Its just easier to meet a girl at work, church, charity or friend of a friend. Girls who are in a bar are there to be seen, not just by you but by a lot of guys. Even if they like you, they like lots of others too. If you are looking for a lasting relationship (even if it’s not exclusive) you’re better off meeting a girl through a mutual interest where the pressure is lowered.

      1. depends. I had a work fling and it lasted 2 months. no drama because she got married to another dude.

        1. Consider yourself lucky. Still, if she gets mad at you for whatever nonsense reason, all she needs to do is make up some bullshit sexual harassment case against you and HR will make your employment a living hell.

        2. yep, she now has leverage over you by default because she is female and her word is higher than yours.

    1. Sounds like you’re just looking for the easy way out so as to alleviate any negative feeling/rejection that might come with hitting on random strangers.
      Do what seems most difficult and you will be rewarded. Do not fear rejection or looking awkward or anything. Thrive on it.
      And generally fuckin with girls you work with is one dumbshit idea. I could enumerate the many reasons but I just don’t wanna feel like I’m wasting my time telling you this. Use your head!
      Another thing, the girls at the bars are the same ones out at your church, charity, job, whatever the fuck.

      1. The fear of rejection cripples me bad. It’s a serious problem that has kept me from getting laid on the regular. For example, at my gym there is this one chick I want to talk to pretty bad. But I freak out in my mind and it goes into overdrive with excuses. In the end nothing happens. It’s one of my biggest weaknesses.

        1. Take an improv class. It will teach you to play a role and talk spontaneously.
          When you talk to a chick, you’re method acting. You’re not revealing your soul, spirit or whatever. She has no grounds to affect your self worth. She can’t see you. She only sees the role you’re playing.

        2. Lately I have been very evasive and vague when girls ask me things. The old beta me would think that’s just rude, or girls are going to think you’re weird if you don’t answer a direct question. But it clearly develops an interest. Plus you don’t have to share any personal details with them if you don’t want.
          Just have fun and don’t take them seriously. Treat them like children (This is why clown game works–they basically *are* children)

        3. Your fears are quite common to most men. I had the same paralyzing fears too. Being honest with yourself about it is the first step towards changing your behaviors.
          Would you rather
          Accept defeat like a bitch and just walk around slouch backed and soft lipped?
          Face your fucking problems and handle that shit?
          No one else is going to help you man. It’s all you and you gotta make it happen. Survival of the fittest. Turn and face it right when it happens. See a hot broad at the gym? Just fucking walk up and say the first thing that comes to mind no hesitation. Who cares what it is, go with your instincts and own it.
          The more you do that the more cool shit will happen in your life I guarantee it. You will get to a point where women mean very little to you. Rejection means very little to you. A chick could tell you she loves you and means it and you have to hold back laughter for how retarded she sounds.
          This will happen the more interactions and experiences you have with women.
          Or you can keep being afraid…….

      2. Its true they are the same girls. I’m talking more about the environment. To me, its easier to meet a good sincere girl who is actually wanting a relationship in an environment where the sole purpose of being there isn’t to escalate a relationship. It allows you to get to know each other and make sure you like each other before there is pressure or you have to escalate things.

        1. If you accept the fact that it is the environment then you must accept the fact that getting to know a girl in your chosen environment and her sincerity will last only as long as the sun is out and when night hits she is at the bars, clubs, whatever to get fucked by some bad boys on the sly.

      1. I’d say its easier to find another job than a good girl at a club or bar. Maybe volunteer on the weekends or something, kind of like a job with girls there..? I’m just saying something where the sole purpose of being there isn’t to hook up.

    2. Don’t shit where you work. I have married bitches at work trying to get me to fuck them on layovers cause they want a taste of the black snake. Cute young ones too. I just remind myself of the potential HR nightmare and that idea is squandered right quick.

      1. Do you travel with them? Are they away from their husbands traveling or are they just that slutty? (not that it isn’t slutty in either case)

        1. I’m a airline pilot. And they’re flight attendants. So yes, I travel with them.
          And most of them are that slutty too.

  14. At the same time, if your goal is to NOT bang a girl, that’s ok too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to limit the interaction to a couple drinks, some laughs, and a vague promise to call her. The point should be that if you’re feeling like you do want to have sex, you should know that constant escalation is the path and feel comfortable doing that until you get blown out (and then moving on to the next).
    Planting the idea that every guy wants the same thing all the time is bs, and any man with an appropriately maintained frame knows that they decide what they want from interaction with a woman and it doesn’t have to be what you say they want.

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  15. Great advise. In general I find day gaming for better than meeting girls in clubs/bars. Get out of your comfort zone and talk to girls, be persistent.

  16. Something I saw on ROK a while back I liked…
    Tell the girl to do something right before she’s going to do it anyway, it sets up a dominance frame. IE you both have your beers and shes about to sit down at the table, but first you tell her “have a seat”. Do this and it reinforces the idea that you are dominant and she is going to do what you suggest, then you further it by saying, come here… let me show you this… let’s get out of here… let’s go to my place.. etc.

  17. Every girl I game these days pulls the “Your such a player” shit with me. I still get laid but I have to spend half the night trying to convince them that I’m not banging chicks back to back. How does one avoid this? How do you be cool, calm, confident and cocky without comming across that you have done this a million times before?

    1. they call you a player because they are projecting. she’s probably gobbling cocks on a full time basis on tinder

      1. That’s it right there: “I’m a player? You’re probably gobbling cocks off Tinder every day of the week”. Then take a sip of your drink.

        1. or “you sure seem to know a lot about players” Implying that she gets around while squinting at her and stroking your chin.

    2. If they say that then you’re onto a winner — they’re into you.
      You’re right to raise the issue though – I’ve had this problem also. The thing is, you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Say you’re not a player and you risk losing your advantage, or worse, appearing to capitulate. Say you are and you could just blow yourself out.
      What I tend to do is remain unfazed, and deflect the questions as best as possible. You can also accuse her of projecting, as friendhappy says. She’s the real player, not you!

  18. The title and article speaks for itself. I’ve failed so many dating interactions recently by playing “gentleman game.” Not necessarily nice guy beta, but enough respect to not try and fuck right away. It’s been a major loser compared to lower tier girls which I push right away.

  19. Great article, but just one problem. A woman cannot friend zone you. You can only friend zone yourself. *MINDS. BLOWN.*

  20. Last picture features submissive chick with self-vandalised male. Standard issue ear vaginas, neck-graffiti, etc. Is this supposed to be our ideal, or is it a clever slice of psy-ops?

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  22. I agree with most of the wisdom on this site, but not this article. Not at all. Don’t be That Guy who is throwing himself at the really cute ones. Be cool. Let the bid come to you.

  23. Any woman who is out at night in a social setting if she gives you more than 5 minutes face to face time eye to eye time is waiting for you to sweep her off her feet. That 5 minute game is easy to learn to do and gets women falling in love like immediately. Making it to the 5 minute mark is the only test you need to employ to qualify her. How to sweep her off her feet? Maybe i will tell you another time

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