This article was originally published on Roosh V.
I went to New York recently for a two night “business” trip. As short as it was, I kept my eyes open to digest as much as I could about the city and its people. Here are a few observations I made:
1. You see the grind in people’s eyes
Unlike in Washington DC, you can clearly feel the harsh effects of the city on the people. Based on how expensive it is to live in New York, to have a good life you have to work like a dog with little in the way of breaks for reflection or relaxation. I suspect that a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck without much in savings, and so are committed to this grind whether they like it or not. The allure of living in New York has essentially captured their body and turned them into a human mule that must never stop laboring and hustling. I observed the same with people in Moscow.
If a New Yorker’s income goes up, they invariably increase the standard at which they live to keep up with the Joneses, so it seems that even if you “win” in New York by getting a job that pays at least $150,000 a year, you still lose in the sense that you won’t accumulate much in the way of wealth, and will be two or three months away from destitution if you happen to lose your job and have trouble finding a new one.
A lot of people have asked me, “Roosh, how you can play the game for so many years without getting tired of it?” Because my job is not a grind, and chasing pussy will never approach the level of grind of labor. I can stay in the game because my life is mostly free of stress in other areas, meaning I can tolerate the high amounts of nonsense I get from pursuing women for the length of time I have. If you’re getting worn down by your job, you will have little leftover for the other grinds that come with a man’s ambitious desires.
2. Smartphones are now a integral part of people’s lives
While walking around New York, I was paranoid of getting hit by a car, so I looked both ways before crossing streets and generally followed the “Don’t Walk” signals. I was shocked to see so many people walking while texting in such an environment. I don’t know how often pedestrians get hit in New York, but it seemed like they were putting their lives in danger.
In the cafes I went to, it was a rule that everyone was staring at their iphone or tablet screen, and even in meetings between friends, a person would keep one eye on their friend and one eye on their phone. The smartphone is now a conversational aid, crutch, and prop that must be nearby to show a picture, news article, status update, or map. Conversations with friends have become multimedia presentations. I’ve railed against smartphones in the past, but they are now too intertwined in the social fiber of America that nothing much can be done about the problem.
A lot of guys are capitalizing on smartphones by mastering dick pic game or using high-tech bots on popular dating apps, but there is no joy for me to use such a device beyond a basic business or communication need, so I accept I will miss out on some sexual benefits from its widespread use.
3. Made men have it best
If you want to live in this city and enjoy it to the fullest, you should already come as a made man with over $300,000 a year in income or a couple million in the bank. Of course you can live in New York for a fraction of that, and find a niche that does give you happiness, but New York allows you to live a regal lifestyle if you have the bankroll.
In the Polish city I’m in, doubling my income would not change my lifestyle one bit, because the city does not have the amenities, Dubai whores, or luxury accommodations that the money could obviously be spent on. The most expensive club cover charge I’ve found is $13 and a cocktail drink price never passes $10.
If you decide to live in New York, there are two options that await you:
a) Become a part of the grind for a short period. Get a humble apartment, work for the man, count your quarters, and squeeze in some easy bangs. After a year or two, when you realize you’ve saved no money and have few—if any—deep relationships, go somewhere else to achieve more financial independence and a higher level of social meaning that takes you away from more shallow pursuits.
b) Accumulate further wealth on top of your already high wealth. Let New York live for you instead of you living for New York. Live like a modern king with a lifestyle that your ancestors couldn’t even dream of.
While my income is high enough to live in New York on favorable terms, my financial cushion would be shrunk to such a degree that I wouldn’t be entirely comfortable.
4. The girls are way better than in Washington DC
My sample size is tiny due to the shortness of my trip (about 10 approaches), but the positive reactions I got from those 10 in an eight-hour period surpass near all the approaches I did in Washington DC for an entire month when I visited last year.
The girls I approached were insanely receptive and genuinely wanted to talk to me. We say in these parts that girls have a lot of options thanks to internet dating while losing the ability to have a conversation if we approach them, but it seems that in New York the dating market is exceptional in some ways due to local demographic conditions and the fact that straight man act effeminate. The girls seem to be craving a confident guy who doesn’t put them on the pedestal and has internationally renowned clown banter.
Not a single girl blew me out, insulted me, or hit me with a feminist talking point. Only one girl looked at her iphone during the conversation. They asked me plenty of personal questions. They did way more talking and helped move the communication forward. One 22-year-old girl approached me in the bar and let me escort her away from her friends for a sloppy make-out session (to be young again!). Another girl gave me her number and then sent me a text asking for a date the next night. The interactions stalled, sadly, when girls found out I was a tourist and staying in a hotel, especially since a couple of those girls would have needed a date to take the intimacy further.
Again, the sample size is small, so no grand conclusions can be made, but if I can duplicate this reception just once in a while, that means girls in New York like me more than girls in Poland. In Poland, a huge number of girls are already in a serious relationship and aren’t as eager to upgrade, so most of my approaches stall for that reason alone. In New York, it seemed that every girl I talked to was sexually available from not being in a serious relationship.
This may be my ego talking, but I’m confident I can get both higher quality and quantity in New York than in my current city in Poland. This isn’t due to just me but the local conditions where New York girls are ready for sex with a mature man who doesn’t act like a fag. It was also interesting to note that girls give quite a bit of eye contact, possibly just as much as in Poland.
Upon returning to Poland, I did a batch of ten approaches and had lower results than the ten in New York. One girl in Poland even rolled her eyes at me, a harsh response that a New York girl did not once give. Poland was amazing for me in 2011, but it’s clear that the tide has turned, and the benefit it offers for me has become mostly financial.
Is Repatriation Now On The Table?
It’s interesting to note that one of the reasons I left the USA is to get a better standard of woman, but it seems that I may have passed a point where I can now do better in New York than abroad. My years of international experience has possibly made me a more attractive catch back in the States. I would have to stay much longer to be sure, but the idea of living in a Western city like New York wouldn’t be a nightmare scenario like in the past.
I calculated that I would need at least $6,000 a month cash to transfer my current lifestyle from Poland to New York, which is four times what I’m currently spending now. Even with that amount, I’d still have to watch my budget and be careful about buying too many rounds of drinks for my friends when I’m in a nice bar and having fun, unlike in Poland where I can make it rain all night without any concern. I would receive two main immediate benefits if I lived in New York: (1) unlimited options for entertainment and easy fornication, and (2) a large social circle of male peers.
The second reason appeals the most to me, but such friendships will invariably entail late nights out, excessive alcohol use, and chasing women. I wonder if it’s a good idea to slip back into that lifestyle, one that I already did before. At nearly 36 years of age, will pursuing more notches and going out to bars three times a week really give me more in life than focusing on my work and being alone in a tame Polish city? As you know, sequels are never better than the original, so I wonder how quickly I’d get tired of it.
I believe New York would cause me to regress into a pursuit of hedonistic delights of the flesh and drink without furthering my development as a man. While my current Polish city is not a village by any means (the metro area has a population of 1 million), it’s harder to lose focus here than in New York, and I’m afraid that my horny constitution is not yet strong enough to resist the unlimited pleasures that New York would offer me.
I know more than anyone that a city or country can change rapidly. As I’ve shared recently, Polish culture is currently on the decline along with most other parts of Eastern Europe. It may happen within 2-5 years where Poland degrades to such a point that I must move to another area of the world. Eastern Europe may merely be a way station for a destination I do not yet know. I’m not sure what the future will hold, but this is the first year since I left the States over five years ago that the idea of moving back wouldn’t fill me with reluctance and dread.
If I ever do move to New York, and it’s not a temporary plan, you can interpret that as me giving up on all notion of ever having a family of my own. It means I must have decided that during the period of humanity I happen to exist in, a life of expensive pleasure is the best outcome to pursue.
There are so many beautiful women walking around New York. I wish I could afford it!
The girls or a place to live? Both don’t come cheap in NY.
Are NY/London women worth it? At the end of the day, they are supporting the end of Western civilization, being mostly populated by immigrants (ok) and the ‘chosen tribe’ who want to make us all slaves and kill many of us, whites especially. Most/all women there are genetic dead ends who are supposed to be sex-in-the-city cum receptacles/slaves for the tribe and denizens of such cities until all of this is completed (real soon).
Then the real fun begins.
If you could afford the “outer boroughs” you’d be fine.
You have grown quite a bit as a writer. That was a compelling piece.
I hate NYC, though. Too many people. Too expensive. If I were going to live a life of hedonism, I would rather do it in a smaller east coast city.
I grew up in New England. I’d recommend Portland, Maine. It’s a small coastal city but it has great life to it. The Old Port District is a revitalized brick wharehouse section on the waterfront now full of fabulous restaurants, pubs and night life. I’ve travelled a lot and when home in Maine and visiting Portland, I seriously think it’s one of the best small cities I’ve seen. There’s a lot of good looking chicks in Portland too.
Whatever you do, don’t go to Boston. I absolutely HATE people from Massachusetts and frankly Boston is another over rated expensive city — full of the most abrasive people you’ll ever meet who are loud, obnoxious and ignorant. A few months around them and you’ll be plotting out suicide.
But what about the chicks? Good looking or blue-haired fatties? How cunty are their attitudes?
I’d say overall, good looking with pleasant attitude. It’s a great coastal town with excellent dining and night life. A big micro brew scene as well. Chicks overall care about staying in shape.
I grew up in Maine and returned home last November to help my family close grandfathers medical office 80 miles north in Waterville. Now that I’m back, I’m looking to settle in Portland, Maine. Close to family and a small city with what I’m looking for: coastal seaport with working waterfront, great brew scene, educated crowd, growing real estate market and pleasant chicks. There’s a couple minor league athletic teams here with nice facilities too. It’s a small city with some big city feel.
Now like anywhere, there are some Social Justice Wankers here. However I’d argue they’re a minority. Nothing like in Seattle and Portland, Oregon where those fuck faces are everywhere.
Which city would you recommend Hank?
“If I ever do move to New York, and it’s not a temporary plan, you can interpret that as me giving up on all notion of ever having a family of my own.”
Roosh, given your recent tweets about the state of women in Poland, specifically their rapid westernization, do you think staying there will be conducive to achieving that goal?
The other option would be to Go Deeper In, which would mean Ukraine or Moldova, methinks.
“do you think staying there will be conducive to achieving that goal?”
No. I’m just staying right now because it’s cheap. I’m waiting for a sign or event that will help me decide what to do next.
I get the impression you are also seeing Westernization of Ukraine as well. Care to comment on this as well?
And as far as repatriation goes, would you honestly consider relocating to New York just for some easy pussy, in the midst of an ever growing Soviet-like nation? I mean c´mon… whatever major crises looms over the horizon for the once free USA, wouldn’t it be better to be on the outside of the country once the door slams shut for good?
Its not really being “Westernized” But the Smartphones there are becoming an obvious problem.
It’s now over a month since I originally wrote that article, and moving to NYC doesn’t cross my mind. Nonetheless, things can change in Eastern Europe quickly.
But with all that is happening politically in the usa you’d still consider relocating to NYC?
As a long term denizen (15 years) of NYC metro, I can attest that men do have it better here than elsewhere in America.
First, the ratio among singles favors men…by a lot. If you are a man who can walk upright, speak English, has acceptable table manners, and look like you might have a job, then you are going to do well here.
Second, NYC is a lot “nicer” than its reputation. One Giuliani put the beat-down on all the losers–from the Mob to the squegee men–who fucked up the quality of life here, everyone got friendlier and thus it became easier to game women. NYC liberals will tell you how much they hated Rudi—but they LOOOOOOVE how he remade city. Enjoy it while it lasts, though, b/c Deblasio is a progressive loser who whines about income inequality and wants to prove how “good” he is, thus everything is going to turn to shit again.
Third, NYC is an expensive-ass place to live. Dating and mating require fuel and in NYC that fuel is cash. I think $150K that Roosh cites is the MINIMUM for a “comfortable” life in the city. With money, as with women, More Is Better.
Fourth, there are a lot of “smart phone zombies” just like everywhere else. I’ve seen women–and it’s *ALWAYS* women–walk into light poles, fire hydrants, other people…you name it. Men are simply better at “situational awareness”. Oh, and *nobody* obeys the Walk/Don’t Walk signs here, same as everywhere else in the Northeast. People in NYC/Boston/Etc. are Busy with Important Shit To Do. Fuck waiting b/c some sign tells you to. That’s for pussies, like in California.
Fifth, the Grind. Yeah, it’s the Capital of the Known Universe (formerly London, soon to be Beijing or Delhi). If you are a man who lives here, you have to LURN to Skull Fuck the Grind. I made myself indispensable, and then I disappeared. Nobody worries that I’m not in the office, b/c my Shit Is Wired Tight. Bringing value gives freedom, if you aren’t afraid to take it.
À bientôt,
Mistral
Deblasio has one of the most punchable faces of any elected politician which is saying a lot
He married a ex lesbian feminist as well…i guess it’s obvious who wears the (fake) penis in that household lol.
She was a fake lesbian desperate for attention….but you’re right on the 2nd part.
Fake lesbian aka a typical female with a psychosexual mental disorder that caused her to reject the natural affinity for the opposite sex.
Some to most lezzies are the victims of some kind of childhood trauma or resentment against Men. The rest just dabble in it because it is considered fashionable among liberals.
There is no such thing as genetic lesbianism…there have been numerous examples of so called committed lesbians who then considered themselves “bisexuals” or some who simply reverted back to heterosexuality.
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I am in complete agreement with all your points sir. I would also mention that the cultural renaissance you attributed to Giuliani was due in part to him cleaning up the sex shops and porn businesses along the business district. NY experienced a boom under him and real NY’ers were sorry to see him get termed out, especially during 911. (myself included.)
That piece of crap Bloomberg definitely doesn’t hold a candle to him, much less that piece of whale crap de Blasio.
“First, the ratio among singles favors men…by a lot. If you are a man who can walk upright, speak English, has acceptable table manners, and look like you might have a job, then you are going to do well here.”
I would also throw in “doesn’t look like a total mangina or mutant” which was definitely not the case with me 😀
Next time i visit we should pal around, friend. I would definitely enjoy buying you a drink at the social venue of your choice 🙂
David Dinkins actually began a lot of the cleaning up and reduction of the crimes if you look back. He also began the cleaning up of Times Square, look it up. He was a Marine Corp Veteran and graduated Cum Laude for Mathematics at Howard University. Giuliani talks about “Thugs” while his father was the epitome of an Italian “Thug” working as a muscle assaulting a milk man in one incident. Wealth inequality is actually a real problem and growing inflation. I know this city well.
Guiliani was taken to task in the debates by Ron Paul rather easily, he will not win the Republican Nomination as a Blue State Republican, because hes not Red State enough no matter how much he gets on spewing ignorance in conservative media.
Highest homicide rate in the city’s recorded history during his tenure(1989-93). You can look it up, I was shocked myself, much worse than the mid to late 1970s…
Not sure about the crime rate comparisons between them since i haven’t looked them up, but from personal experience (3 decades of it) i can say that life under Giuliani seemed way better than it was under Dinkins…emphasis on “seems” since i was in my early teens and my political savvy was nowhere near as sophisticated as it is now.
What i can say with all certainty is that Dinkins seemed weak (and possibly biased) when it came to racial issues and on average crime seemed to spike with him, at least that was my perception. Who can forget the crown heights riots? I don’t seem to recall that happening under Giuliani.
The measure of a good mayor goes beyond what he does, it extends into how he does it. A mayor must by necessity be perceived as a strong leader, and even though Giuliani at times came across as arrogant and brusque, his leadership was never as apparent and unquestionable as it was during 911. Dinkins inspired no such perception in his feckless mannerisms, which is no surprise given his political affiliation.
Dinkins handled the riots poorly, and public confidence faded as a result. The possibility of racial bias on his part (especially during the murder of Yankel Rosenbaum) certainly didn’t help him much during his re-election campaign, when the proverbial chickens came home to roost.
You still live here? Good post. Rev Al did him no favors concerning those riots. The ambulance leaving the black kid bleeding in the street didnt help matters either
I could be wrong, but I think Dink instituted similar policies to DeB regarding their stop/question/frisk policy at the time, with similar poor results.
Hell no dude, i left NY a few years ago. I don’t like to give specifics to protect my identity, suffice it to say i got out of that lib hellhole for greener, southern pastures 😀
Thanks for the love however!
That is what the media pushed for you to believe Mr. Ramos…how can a “Weak” Mayor expand the Police Force and help reduce crime which was spiking out of control to begin with. How can you say he seemed “Biased” when Giuliani was the one who instigated drunk Police rioting and him being Black was the reason he had trouble going into the Marine Corp. because the “Quota” was met, even though he had graduated at the top of his class in Mathematics. Him seeking the office of Mayor sparked racist outbursts by many whites to begin with…he lost the boroughs of Queens and Staten Island not surprisingly because Staten Island especially is predominantly Italian and have a sizable Cop community. (This is the same location of the Eric Garner incident). Crime rates were already dipping and reducing under David Dinkins, but he never gets the credit as Giuliani took all of the credit. Yes Giuliani was also successful but also the rest of the major cities as well. Dinkins took office during a bad time in NY much like Obama took office during a rapidly sinking economy that Bush left however today you would think Obama is the Devil incarnate himself as right wing media would lead you to believe.
I am certain David Dinkins would have done a fine job during September 11th as well as he was definitely capable of doing so. Thing is with Giuliani is that he relies on September 11th too much in his need to seek the Republican Nomination which I doubt he will get in the first place because “Blue State” Republicans are usually not accepted by Red State voters to begin with.
Dinkins handled the riots as best he could remember he did not have the police behind him…and you can also say that was racially motivated by the white police as well right? Some in the Jewish community believe it or not are very racist towards blacks and people like yourself (I take it you are Latino/Hispanic) especially in Israel today (ironic cause the majority of them are not the original Hebrews of that land to begin with.)
http://www.gothamgazette.com/commentary/91.barrett.shtml
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/11/rudy_the_crime_buster.html
Under Dinkins the overall crime rate was decreased at the most dramatic pace in New York History. Remember he arrived during the Crack Epedemic and heavy police corruption.
Dinkins, David N.; Knobler, Peter (2013). A Mayor’s Life: Governing New York’s Gorgeous Mosaic. New York: PublicAffairs. ISBN 978-1-61039-301-0. Riggio, Len, Foreword, page xi
Barrett, Wayne (June 25, 2001). “Giuliani’s Legacy: Taking Credit For Things He Didn’t Do”. Gotham Gazette. Retrieved November 15, 2007.
Powell, Michael (October 25, 2009). “Another Look at the Dinkins Administration, and Not by Giuliani”. The New York Times. Retrieved October 26, 2009.
Wasnt referencing overall crimerate- only homicide. Ive seen the actual homicide spreadsheet, dates back to the late 40s I think.
It was really “new jack city” back then.
He didnt create that situation, all he could do was respond to it.
Kinda like Carter in the late 70s during a second energy crisis.
Yes I agree but you have to shine a light many people think Giuliani came down from the heavens and solved the cities problems right away..meanwhile he completely discredited Dinkins. That’s why I show a more complete picture. Its a response to the earlier comment.
Carter was also a good President but got discredited by the likes of Reagan and now people think of him as one of the worst.
No, Carter was a good man stuck in afuct up situation. Similar to Dinkins, but he could not play the race card
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Yes Carter was a good man, but have you ever looked at it from a different perspective? If Carter was black maybe the race could have been played on HIM to begin with. You have to see it the other way also. Dinkins for example had to face a lot of the race pushed on him since a young kid.
Yeah, ’cause black run places do so well. Like Detroit, Camden, SOuth side of Chicago, Baltimore, Ferguson…
when you people stop failing? lol
Here we go with you again, you are a moron. The fact that you are a lawyer is extremely troubling go scurry away into a hole somewhere.
lol. your projection is showing, little failure. but i’m sure you’ll go on 50 posting blog rants to try to disprove how your “people” ruin everything and fail at even the basics of human civilization.
This should be good for a laugh.
*giggle*
I don’t know, seems like you love the ‘your people’ rant far more than he does. I’m just here to observe and see how this plays out.
Just in case you were unaware, grown men shouldn’t use giggles for other men. Have some pride and only refer to the snicker in such moments. Now as you were. I’m looking forward to whatever logical fallacies you’ll choose to support your argument, or non-argument, tonight.
lol can’t have a conversation with that “guy” anyway. His insecurity shows with every comment. Want a laugh check out his comment history. This dude oozes insecurity with the addition of needing to “prove” himself. He stinks of it.
Bahamas, Bardbados, St. Kitts, etc. are all black run and are far better than their Southern European counterparts. There are actually black run places in Africa, Botswana and Namibia, which have higher incomes than Eastern European counterparts. Go and take your ignorance elsewhere.
“That is what the media pushed for you to believe Mr. Ramos.”
No, that is what i came to believe. The media even back then slanted left, just not as bad as today.
“how can a “Weak” Mayor expand the Police Force and help reduce crime which was spiking out of control to begin with.How can you say he seemed “Biased” when Giuliani was the one who instigated drunk Police rioting”
Giuliani’s actions have nothing to do with Dinkins ineffectual nature as mayor, since Rudy came later. I bore firsthand witness to it. He (Dinkins) never came across as strong, confident, or inspiring. He may have expanded the police force, but that doesn’t make him a strong mayor, just a mayor that understood the problems within his city.
“Dinkins handled the riots as best he could remember he did not have the police behind him”
I can see the partisan nature of your posts but this comment itself (along with the one about obama i will post in a moment) confirms it. Dinkins did no wrong in your eyes unlike Giuliani, who you paint as the devil himself. Personally i am no fan of either, but i don’t play partisan politics with my remarks. For you to say that Dinkins handled the riots as best he could is mere opinion that, unlike your remarks about his increase of the police, bear no practical substantiation whatsoever.
If racist Whites voted for Giuliani, racists Blacks voted for Dinkins. I’ve lived there for a majority of my life to have borne witness to both given my solidarity within both communities. You only seem to see one type of racism within your remarks, which makes you only half as perceptive as you think you are.
Giuliani may have taken the credit that Dinkins started, but Giuliani projected leadership and strength, two things which he did NOT take from Dinkins.
“Dinkins took office during a bad time in NY much like Obama took office during a rapidly sinking economy that Bush left however today you would think Obama is the Devil incarnate himself as right wing media would lead you to believe”
First of all, if you are referring to the housing bubble in your mention of Bush’s “sinking economy” i will thank you to do your research and discover that Bush had to deal with a democrat controlled congress during the last two years of his presidency, when the full effects of the housing bubble were felt, thanks in no small part to nancy pelosi and barney frank’s meddling in the mortgage business by “encouraging” mortgage lenders to subsidize people with less than ideal financial conditions. To say that Bush is to blame in totum for the economy fails to take this into consideration as well as all the other things pelosi and her gang had involvement in.
If the “right wing media” makes Obama out to be the devil himself, the left wing media you likely watch tends to apotheosize him as the second coming of the Messiah, so you’re not really proving anything there other than your acute dislike for Bush and your bromantic love for Obama, invariably.
“I am certain David Dinkins would have done a fine job during September 11th as well as he was definitely capable of doing so.”
I totally disagree. Speculating on a “what if” scenario is essentially pointless but given Dinkins’ meek nature i sincerely doubt it. You are of course free to believe otherwise even if you can’t prove as much.
“I take it you are Latino/Hispanic)”
Yes i am. I’m one that doesn’t play favorites with politics and race…can you say the same?
The “media” what do you mean by that do you know that the “Media” includes Right Wing Media as well like that of Fox News which is considered the most slanted and biased with the most uninformed and ignorant viewers. And by “pushing you to believe” I meant the continuous right with media today that has re-written the Giuliani narrative.
“He may have expanded the police force, but that doesn’t make him a strong mayor, just a mayor that understood the problems within his city.”
That is what being a good mayor is exactly about… understanding the ills of your city and responding to it, again he was the one that initiated the turn around. Look it up and that is not a “What if Scenario.”
“If the “right wing media” makes Obama out to be the devil himself, the left wing media you likely watch tends to apotheosize him as the second coming of the Messiah, so you’re not really proving anything there other than your acute dislike for Bush and your bromantic love for Obama, invariably.”
lol Bush was one of the worst Presidents who got us into a long war that we will be paying for long into the future based on lies. The only man with some sense in that administration was Colin Powell one of the few Republicans I actually respect. Also other Republicans I respect are Eisenhower, Teddy, and Lincoln. Currently they are predominantly full of clowns that will lose in a debate rather easily.
Actually the Left Wing Media although biased as well… at least questions Obama’s policies did you know that progressives strongly oppose the TPP for example. While the Right Wing Media greatly supports Republicans almost without question to a GREATER degree. I actually oppose some of Obama’s economic policies should I say you have a romantic infatuation with anything Right Wing by looking at the history of your posts and your hate for everything left wing as with many here. And the incorrect categorization and grouping on what you believe to encompass progressive thinking.
“I totally disagree. Speculating on a “what if” scenario is essentially pointless but given Dinkins’ meek nature i sincerely doubt it. You are of course free to believe otherwise even if you can’t prove as much.”
I hardly think a Marine Corp Veteran who had graduated at the top of his class in Mathematics who had to deal with racism is meek in any sense of the word. I think you better check Giuliani get his rear end handed to him by Ron Paul in the debates making him a laughing stock to anyone outside of ignorant right wingers drinking their coolaid. For that audience all he has to do is repeat “Sept 11th” over and over again to get their ignorant minds racing. That to me made him seem weak and emasculated.
Yes I know you are a Latino I wonder if you also stay silent when some of your right wing brethren insult you indirectly and or directly. That also seems how should I say meek and effeminate.
Enjoy lol…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjQYg5RoH2s
Giuliani gets owned rather easily, he can play up to his ignorant right wing audience but the world saw his ignorance against Ron Paul.
Republican candidates are the only ones who don’t responsibly talk about Geo Politics in a realistic and honest fashion to pander to their ignorant supporters. Giuliani is a punk and an intellectual laughing stock outside his mindless supporters.
rofl. oh yeah, all better run than the southern european “cunterparts. /snark.
will you little darkies ever stop lying? your affirmative action lies won’t work here, dummy.
*giggle*
I’m sorry black people are failures as a species. But it’s their own fault.
*giggle*
Disprove what I actually said instead of resorting to lies. There are multiple black countries in sub-Saharan Africa with GDP per capitas greater than their Eastern European counterparts. Botswana has a GDP per capita 3 times that of Ukraine and almost 10 times that of Armenia. Trinidad Tobago has a higher GDP per capita than almost all of eastern Europe as well.
No, i like my face 😀
“The “media” what do you mean by that do you know that the “Media” includes Right Wing Media as well like that of Fox News which is considered the most slanted and biased with the most uninformed and ignorant viewers. And by “pushing you to believe” I meant the continuous right with media today that has re-written the Giuliani narrative.”
Oh rubbish. Fox news may be considered “right wing media” because it’s the only major news outlet that doesn’t tow the leftist perspective gleefully. That’s the intellectual equivalent of saying i’m against pizzas for opening up the only non pizza fast food franchise in an area.
MSNBS and PCNN shamelessly promote leftist policies, pundits and agendas which is why both of those networks rank consistently lower than FOX in overall ratings.
People like you enjoy using the canard that Fox viewers are “ignorant and uninformed” when the opposite is actually true. The typical Fox viewer tends to be conservative or libertarian, making them informed on issues which impinge on freedom and social mores, whereas the typical leftist viewer gets their news from such “trusted” liberal sites as the daily show with john stewart which is why they believe in the farce that homosexual marriage is constitutional, or that the police are out to get whites, if they watch sharpton.
While no network is free from promoting some kind of perspective in order to cater to a specific demographic (the conservative viewer with Fox) to say that Fox is slanted and biased while ignoring the shameless slant and bias of CNN and MSNBC is no more than political hackery on your part and (ironically enough) highlights your own uninformed ignorant perspective quite nicely.
“And by “pushing you to believe” I meant the continuous right with media today that has re-written the Giuliani narrative.”
How about this…i will agree that the right has tries to re write the Giuliani narrative if you will agree that the left has done so with Clinton…do we have a deal?
“That is what being a good mayor is exactly about… understanding the ills of your city and responding to it, again he was the one that initiated the turn around. Look it up and that is not a “What if Scenario.””
No, that is part of being a good leader. The BEST leader is both effective in his policy and strong in the perception he gives others. No one wants to take orders from a wimp and few get inspired by wimp leadership. You would well understand this if you had trained to be USMC as i did.
“lol Bush was one of the worst Presidents who got us into a long war that we will be paying for long into the future based on lies. The only man with some sense in that administration was Colin Powell one of the few Republicans I actually respect. Also other Republicans I respect are Eisenhower, Teddy, and Lincoln. Currently they are predominantly full of clowns that will lose in a debate rather easily.”
Lol and yet your buddy obama has gotten us into MORE wars than Bush did and extended the ones that Bush started. Want to go point for point with that one? I’ll even let you go first 🙂
By the way, how did Obama get us to invade Libya again? Here’s a hint…it rhymes with pie lol
It figures you would respect a RINO like Colin Powell and a prog like Teddy Roosevelt. Lincoln was a good president but Eisenhower had his issues (holding back Patton against Russia, for one) which bear no relevance on the issue of contention between us at this moment so i won’t go into detail there.
“Currently they are predominantly full of clowns that will lose in a debate rather easily.”
Your leftist heroes would hardly do any better in a debate that isn’t stacked in their favor. Obama for his part when not aided by his teleprompter comes across with all the skill and intelligence of Sloth from the goonies 🙂
“Actually the Left Wing Media although biased as well… at least questions Obama’s policies did you know that progressives strongly oppose the TPP for example. While the Right Wing Media greatly supports Republicans almost without question to a GREATER degree. I actually oppose some of Obama’s economic policies should I say you have a romantic infatuation with anything Right Wing by looking at the history of your posts and your hate for everything left wing as with many here. And the incorrect categorization and grouping on what you believe to encompass progressive thinking.”
Well at least you finally admit that there is bias in the left wing media…thank God for small favors lol.
As far as the TPP is concerned, that is a rather marginal issue compared to the ACA, along with obama’s numerous wars, his affinity for the use of drones (even against Americans) his blatant disregard for constitutional adherence, etc. The people you identify with were the ones marching around in NAZI uniforms burning Bush in effigy while they have been predominantly silent on the things i have listed and many, many more. That speaks to bias as well as hypocrisy.
The other flaw in your remark here is assuming that the “right wing media” aka Fox UNANIMOUSLY agrees with the views of all of its members. Maybe you should look up Glenn Beck and how his remarks got him essentially fired from Fox, much to the delight of the left. There are also pundits (O Reilly for instance) who don’t fall into the category of conservative because they tend to say things which can be construed as being moderate or independent, for ex: O’ Reilly’s disagreement with the religious right. I should also mention that Fox employs moderates and even liberals and gives them airtime: Alan Colmes, Juan Williams, Geraldo Rivera, Bob Beckel just to name a few. The only conservative i can identify on MSNBC (for instance) is Joe Scarborough, and that is technically a stretch. On average Fox news gives its liberal presence (employed and invited) far more respect than the liberal networks do with invited conservatives on their programs. Then of course you fail to take into consideration the civil war being waged on the right at this moment, between the establishment RINO republicans (best embodied by Karl Rove) and the conservative social republicans best embodied by Men like Ted Cruz. There is no such fundamental disagreement of philosophy on the left because generally speaking most of you are in agreement on how you see things even if you don’t completely agree on how they should be carried out. Nice try though.
If you do indeed oppose obama on his policies it’s only in regard to lesser or inconsequential things, which means you agree with him more often than not. You can farcically say that i have a romantic infatuation with the right but you would only be marginally correct, i have a love and support for conservative principles NOT the so called right leaning republican party, because they have by and far sold out conservatives to the point that their leadership resembles you guys more often than not.
Progressive thinking might as well be an oxymoron because it has led to the destruction of the family unit as well as the economic destabilization of America. For all your sciolist interpretation of the Bush era you can’t say that under him we lost our triple A credit rating as we did under obama. I was no fan of Bush but i will GLADLY take him over the progressive nightmare called obama any day of the week and twice on sundays. Obama will be remembered by unfiltered history as one of the worst (if not THE worst) presidents of the modern era, and Bush will ultimately be remembered far better. Wait for it 😉
“I hardly think a Marine Corp Veteran who had graduated at the top of his class in Mathematics who had to deal with racism is meek in any sense of the word. I think you better check Giuliani get his rear end handed to him by Ron Paul in the debates making him a laughing stock to anyone outside of ignorant right wingers drinking their coolaid. For that audience all he has to do is repeat “Sept 11th” over and over again to get their ignorant minds racing. That to me made him seem weak and emasculated.”
Bla bla bla, you keep repeating this ad nauseam because you can’t prove your point here. I was there I SAW IT. I saw Dinkins giving his press speeches especially during Crown Heights, he came across as weak, almost helpless. You keep bringing him up as a marine corp veteran has if he did multiple tours overseas, the most i see is that he served one year of active service. ONE. While Giuliani never served in the military he did make his bones as a lawyer, and gained high fame in his successful court bids against the heads of several NY crime families. He was cleaning up NY before he was even mayor…meaning that NY’ers felt he could bring strength and leadership to the role of Mayor, since not just anyone will take on the mob and not blink an eye. Contrast that with Dinkins’ passivity on the odious Lemrick Nelson trial, which he first supported
https://books.google.com/books?id=o-QCAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA18#v=onepage&q&f=false
and then later criticized in his memoirs.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Uc8iBQAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=david+dinkins+memoirs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qQN3VZeiG4TesAXYlIGQBQ&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=lemrick&f=false
His view came too little too late for the family of Yankel Rosenbaum but hey, better late than never, right?
And please, stop bringing up Ron Paul. That liberaltarian has nothing to do with this issue between us. If you want to mention him as being a better speaker than Giuliani then i will mention Ronald Reagan as being a better speaker than both to one up you 🙂
I mentioned something beyond 911 when i mentioned Rudy’s skill and tenacity with regard to his prosecutions of organized mob. As i said to you earlier, it’s not enough to do a good job you MUST be perceived as an effective leader in doing so. This separates the good leaders from the BEST leaders. Confidence, strength and maybe just a touch of arrogance go a long way towards public impression. Not coincidentally, i have been described as having all 3 in my numerous exchanges with the typical clueless progressive from your side of the aisle. My track record there remains intact, by the way 😉
“Yes I know you are a Latino I wonder if you also stay silent when some of your right wing brethren insult you indirectly and or directly. That also seems how should I say meek and effeminate.”
Lol. If you really believe that, that i am the silent effeminate type, then you truly are misinformed and ignorant about the right, specifically with the right centered Man you are debating 😀
I am the typical masculine Man, one who defends his beliefs with strength and aplomb here and in person. I have debated against so called conservatives and Christians because again, i do not play favorites in regards to the practical applications of my philosophy.
Can you say the same?
Lol. Thanks for that irrelevant contribution, now here’s one from your dear leader trying to cope when his cerebral assistance device crashed 😀
And here’s one from the “high intellectual” claiming that there are “57 states” lmao.
Enjoy drinking that blue kool aid! By the way, Jim Jones was a democrat 😀
Haha good one compared to Bush Obama is a genius by the way (not that its saying much). Don’t even go this route, because the amount of videos I can pull of Bush and other Presidents will completely own you. As a matter of fact….Whats his famous line “Fool me once shame on me, fool me…uhhmmm uhhmmm well…what I mean just don’t fool me”
By the way the video of Giuliani causing a riot through misinformation is very relevant to the conversation the other video is just for my enjoyment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y24UiUVnA1o
Learn some more and then come back.
“Disprove what I actually said”
rofl.
That is black logic at it’s finest: prove a negative.
lol.
Everyone is running to live in the paradises of Botswana, and Trinidad Tobago.
Save me, lordy, send me to Botswana and Baltimore!
Man you uncivilized savages are just giggle worthy with your lies. You just keep lying and lying and lying and lying…
and we’re all laughing at you.
*giggle*
lol well let’s just see who is the bigger imbecile between bush and obama shall we?
I raise your 4 vids with 4 of my own 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkL79HNpuho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZSigyG-BZU
Bonus: Since we are talking about obama, i thought you would appreciate Giuliani schooling obama on his ignorance regarding corporate taxes 😀
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3696692788001/giuliani-obamas-ignorance-on-corporate-taxes-is-laughable/?#sp=show-clips
By the way, how many of those 57 or 58 states that obama spoke of have you visited? lol
While i have no doubt you could find more anti bush videos (duh he’s been out of office a lot longer than obama has been in office) the FACT is the only fine job obama is doing (besides destroying our country) is in proving how much of an ignoramus demagogue he actually is 😀
You are starting to believe your own bullshit aren’t ya….Fox News is heavily slanted and biased more so than liberal media is biased in favor of the Democrats. Liberal Media actually questions Obama Policies, while Right Wing Media directly and without shame seek to report an extreme biased point of view. There “journalism” is a complete joke. Many of their viewers are older white conservatives and I would love to see how their rating fair farther into the future lets say 10, 20, 30, years from now. Yes Obama has extended the current wars but he has been more cautious in his approach, something you would flip and say he is hesitant.
As for what I am against Obama on they are not “inconsequential” TPP is not inconsequential I am against Big Money corruption in politics which impacts both parties but Republicans seem to openly accept this money therefore I can never vote for them.
As for Giuliani where do I even start with him? How about his opening up of sealed records to justify police brutality on the cops behalf or the hypocritical covering up oh his own records hmmm. And then there is the injustice of the Amadou Diallo shooting and countless other Police Brutality incidents under his watch THAT is why many in New York didn’t like him. He can talk all the bla bla bla he wants just like you are doing but facts are facts.
http://www.rense.com/general18/giulianibegin.htm
“2. Police misconduct. There are still ongoing Federal and State investigations and lawsuits about the stop and frisk policy, racial profiling and the police shootings of four unarmed men – Abner Louima, Amadou Diallo, Patrick Dorismond and Gidone Busch – all of whose families have pending lawsuits directly involving Giuliani. There are also issues about Giuliani forcing police officers to meet arrest quotas. 3. His divorce. Giuliani’s second wife, Donna Hanover has accused the former Mayor of committing adultery with his former press secretary, Christene Lategano and with current girlfriend, Judi Nathan. The accusation involving Lategano has an additional component which could lead to criminal charges. She was a NYC employee at the time. When he prepared to run for the U.S. Senate against Hillary Clinton, Giuliani transferred her from her City Hall job in which she was constantly in front of the inquiring media to a new $150,000 a year job as head of the Tourism Bureau, where her only duty seems to have been spending millions of dollars on ads promoting the Mayor s accomplishments. Using public funds to pay off a mistress would be a criminal charge and at the least could cause Giuliani serious embarrassment and the likely loss of the Vice Presidential nomination. 4. Personal injury lawsuits. There are numerous Federal and State personal injury lawsuits by people who were falsely arrested which name Giuliani and a number of the ‘Giuliani Partners’ as defendants. These include a class-action suit now in the works by people illegally put through the system as a punishment for demonstrating against the Mayor. When Giuliani’s divorce lawyer, Raoul Felder, told the judge that ‘Poor Rudy’ was almost broke, he wasn’t factoring in a $3 million dollar book deal, the $100,000 a speech fee he now charges to do his Godfather and Marilyn Monroe imitations at corporate events or the millions in lobbying fees that will be generated as Giuliani Partners begins manipulating the Bloomberg administration from within and without. The Mayor could end up personally liable in some or all of those cases. If the real facts of how he personally ordered political opponents falsely arrested were to come out, ‘America’s Mayor’ could find himself facing millions in personal damages. Member of Giuliani Partners are the key witnesses in these cases and the documents he wants to get control of are the main source of evidence. 5. The sources, true amounts and present location of millions of dollars in campaign donations he received while running for the U.S. Senate. After dropping out of the race Giuliani decided to keep most of the money rather than give it to his replacement, Rick Lazio, who ultimately lost the election to Hillary Clinton. The majority of those donations were from people who did not live in NY State. Much of it was raised by using mailing lists bought from extremist far right groups with racist connections. 6. The West Nile Virus pesticide spraying from 1999-2001. In 1999 Giuliani ordered helicopters to repeatedly spray nerve gas based pesticides directly on the City’s human population in response to what was falsely depicted as a raging epidemic. Every warning printed on the pesticide’s label was ignored, including directions that it must never be sprayed over water or on people and that a minimum 12 hour waiting period should elapse before allowing anyone into areas that were sprayed. Although a chemical contamination handbook with Giuliani’s name on the cover is located in every NYC police precinct and ambulance which describes the chemical – Malathion – as a dangerous toxin related to WWII nerve gasses, Giuliani appeared at press conferences repeatedly insisting that it was ‘completely safe’. In 2000 and 2001 Giuliani repeated his toxic attack on the City’s health this time using other equally dangerous pesticides sprayed from trucks. Among those suing the City for health problems related to the spraying are NYPD officers ordered to accompany the spray trucks without using any protective gear, many of the unskilled men the City hired to do the spraying, members of the lobster fishing industry whose livelihoods were destroyed when the Malathion caused a massive die-off of lobsters after it was sprayed over water in direct violation of NY State law and thousands of New Yorkers who suffered negative health effects.”
Also those “liberals” you speak of that Fox employs are not true liberals with strong points to make and those “liberals” are held under a scripted leash which they can’t fall far from in the first place…true liberals or people with opposing viewpoints usually frustrate Fox news anchors rather easily. Glen Beck comes across as a loon although he might have stumbled on some truth.
As far as effective leader for the third time I have stated Dinkins was given a city in free-fall with a crack epidemic and high crime rates and was able to turn the tide. All which I have listed and Rudy changed the narrative of that which you mindlessly repeated in your original post the reason for my response in the first place. That shows tenacity, while lying and misinformation and inciting drunk Police Officers (who are supposed to have a higher standard than your average citizen) to storm over barricades into city hall…does not register as strong to me but a lying snake…which might get you far practicing law but not in this conversation. At least you say you speak up against your notoriously ignorant counterparts who have choice words for what you are in the first place.
As far as the teleprompter point you far underestimate Obama, Obama is simply a smart person. Doesn’t matter if you like him or not he simply is…especially compared to a person like Bush. Again I’m 110 percent sure one on one with no aid Obama would simply crush Bush no contest. As for Reagan I consider Carter a much smarter man by comparison yet he was tarnished as well especially by the Right.
Also more whites get killed but adjusting for population size Blacks and minorities are profiled more arrested for the same minor crimes and killed.
“Some 41.7 per cent of the casualties were white and 31.7 per cent were black.”
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-killed-police/19423
Since black people only make up about 13 per cent of the US population, and nearly 63 per cent of Americans are white, blacks were disproportionately likely to be killed
Also emails has uncovered racism among various Police Departments and black and latino police officers usually go along with the “program.” It Is a shame cause I believe there are good police officers but these behaviors ruin it for the whole lot. NYPD blogs also showed overt racism…so this is not Sharpton telling me this its documented. Also by the way Sharpton never advocated for violence during protests another thing your idiotic network False News states. In fact they are the king of misinformation and biased as rated by non partisan sources that shows like “The Daily Show” with John Stewart which we KNOW are comedy shows and actually do not take serious..ironically portays the news more accurately than Fox News in many instances. That’s the sad part, in fact Fox News should drop the “News” portion from their name and get into comedy as well…but no one will be laughing.
you that the quiet won’t last long.
Some of Giuliani’s legacy…
– Used Police & Tax Money to Pamper His Mistress
– Surrounded by Corrupt and Criminal Friends (Felons, Molestors, & Embezzlers)
– Married his cousin (and divorced her)
– Affairs — Divorced his second wife (in a very ugly way)
– Mob ties (his Dad and uncle)
– Bernie Kerik
– Farmersville, NY Scandal
– Harding scandal
– opening sealed records to justify police brutality and supporting inequalities under the law.
I bring up Ron Paul because although I don’t agree with him overall his knowledge and honesty regarding Geo Politics destroys the narrative pushed by nearly all Republicans today..which helps my point that they feed mindless garbage to many of their ignorant viewers on Fox and the rest of Right Wing propaganda on the internet and other outlets. Perhaps you should add misinformation to your other 3 qualities Ramos.
https://www.propublica.org/article/racist-posts-on-ny-cop-blog-raise-ire-at-time-of-tension
http://www.businessinsider.com/an-nypd-message-board-lit-up-with-racist-comments-following-the-shooting-of-an-unarmed-black-man-in-south-carolina-2015-4
http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/03/04/390725377/here-are-the-racist-emails-ferguson-officials-passed-around
I can find many Bush idiotic videos…the funny thing about all of this is that these “blunders: by Obama are mostly regarding technical facts which even the sharpest focused mind will have…not everyone will get a specific date right are figure right all of the time…while Bush’s blunders are the blunders of a pre-teen or a child. That is the difference. In an 8 year span you will get FARRRR more material on Bush than Obama..FACT..and the mistakes are far more idiotic. Or let me pose it in a way you might understand better…if Obama and Bush had a series of One to One debates on a range of issues who you think would win? Obama would easily embarrass that imbecile in a prolonged general debate…if you say otherwise you are lying to yourself. In fact I would gladly bet your Bank! on an Obama vs Bush debate and watch your pride leave you penniless. Obama also received the country after the Great Recession after Bush’s 8 year FAILURE. And he has struggled to add more jobs..not the best jobs and not at a higher pace but he had to try to make lemonade out of lemons.
Apologies for LegallySpeaking. He’s racist. Also sexist. And perhaps a few other ‘ists’. He’s not used to actually having intelligent, in-depth discourses, sadly. I’ve asked him to back up his words with actual facts – I think he had an allergic reaction. 🙂
“You are starting to believe your own bullshit aren’t ya….Fox News is heavily slanted and biased more so than liberal media is biased in favor of the Democrats. Liberal Media actually questions Obama Policies, while Right Wing Media directly and without shame seek to report an extreme biased point of view. There “journalism” is a complete joke. Many of their viewers are older white conservatives and I would love to see how their rating fair farther into the future lets say 10, 20, 30, years from now. Yes Obama has extended the current wars but he has been more cautious in his approach, something you would flip and say he is hesitant.”
That’s a farcical comment coming from someone engaging in some very obvious political solipsism lol.
Much of your commentary here is just bs biased opinion and haterade on Fox, so unless you can back it up with some actual verifiable statistics i suggest you agree to disagree on it.
At least i got you to admit that Obama has extended Bush wars, even if you had to inject more political bs in your admittance of that.
“As for what I am against Obama on they are not “inconsequential” TPP is not inconsequential I am against Big Money corruption in politics which impacts both parties but Republicans seem to openly accept this money therefore I can never vote for them.”
Making blanket statements about “republicans” only serves to distract from actually answering what exactly you oppose obama on. Would it actually surprise you to know obama has “big money” corruption in his admin as well? Have you ever bothered to research how many “wall street” types? Probably not right? I suggest you start with Rahm Emmanuel and go from there 😀
Since you aren’t bothering to tell me what else you opppose obama on, let me tell you what i opposed bush on: the Iraqi war, the “nation building” that came after, the creation of homeland security, just to name 3 off the top of my head. Those are a lot more relevant and a lot more significant than your mere mention of TPP. I’m still waiting to see what else you actually “oppose” him on. (opposing him on 1% of his agenda doesn’t mean you oppose him overall, silly boy lol)
“As for Giuliani where do I even start with him? How about his opening up of sealed records to justify police brutality on the cops behalf or the hypocritical covering up oh his own records hmmm. And then there is the injustice of the Amadou Diallo shooting and countless other Police Brutality incidents under his watch THAT is why many in New York didn’t like him. He can talk all the bla bla bla he wants just like you are doing but facts are facts.”
You seem to forget the part where i said i don’t much care for Dinkins OR Giuliani, i’m disagreeing with you because your solipsism is trying to paint the former as a savior and the latter as the devil himself. I hate partisan hackery, it’s part of the reason why people are so polarized and opposed to true debate and conversation where facts and not feelings take priority. In that regard your conversation with me has only served to reinforce my belief that those on your side are bereft of reason and any practical facts.
Yeah, and maybe you should mention David Dinkins playing racial politics by sticking up for a drug dealer (Jose Garcia) against his own cops, especially after the witnesses involved in the case had been found lying. Or how about later, when he was “outraged” by the Diallo shooting and not the Rosenbaum murder. Was Dinkins arrested for attending a protest for Yankel Rosenbaum, btw?
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/11/nyregion/washington-heights-case-washington-heights-dinkins-defends-actions-after.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/16/nyregion/dinkins-among-14-arrested-in-protest-of-police-shooting.html
You can claim that Giuliani is an italian racist my friend, but i can just as easily claim that Dinkins is a black racist as well, but unlike you i actually have some evidence to support that viewpoint and not merely a droit hyperbole like with you.
“that is why many in NY don’t like him”
Except those NY’ers that Quinnipac surveyed comparing Giulian and Dinkins, among others. Guess what? Rudy beat David handily lol
http://gothamist.com/2011/07/27/dinkins_and_giuliani_the_worst_and.php
I’m still waiting for you to post some actual facts to support your bla bla bs, btw 😀 An article listing someone’s issues with him (activist Robert Lederman) hardly qualifies as undeniable proof, just merely speculation that isn’t substantiated. All your article does is cite from the Daily News, which leaned decidedly left then just as it does now. (no wonder i used to read the NY post:)
You don’t seem to know what a fact is and what a fact isn’t, big surprise there 😀
“2. Police misconduct. There are still ongoing Federal and State investigations and lawsuits about the stop and frisk policy, racial profiling and the police shootings of four unarmed men – Abner Louima, Amadou Diallo, Patrick Dorismond and Gidone Busch – all of whose families have pending lawsuits directly involving Giuliani. There are also issues about Giuliani forcing police officers to meet arrest quotas.”
Well when those “ongoing federal investigations” lol actually yield something beyond your speculation, then you can come back to me and use it as a definitive argument against Rudy. Until then it’s no more than sour grapes on your part 🙂
“3. His divorce. Giuliani’s second wife, Donna Hanover has accused the former Mayor of committing adultery with his former press secretary, Christene Lategano and with current girlfriend, Judi Nathan. The accusation involving Lategano has an additional component which could lead to criminal charges. She was a NYC employee at the time. When he prepared to run for the U.S. Senate against Hillary Clinton, Giuliani transferred her from her City Hall job in which she was constantly in front of the inquiring media to a new $150,000 a year job as head of the Tourism Bureau, where her only duty seems to have been spending millions of dollars on ads promoting the Mayor s accomplishments. Using public funds to pay off a mistress would be a criminal charge and at the least could cause Giuliani serious embarrassment and the likely loss of the Vice Presidential nomination”
Oh? Resorting to character assassinations now are we? Again, when these are proven in a court of law and NOT on the open court of public opinion, come back to me and we will talk further. Until then you haven’t proven anything beyond your intense dislike for RG.
How long have you lived in NY? How old were you when Dinkins was mayor? I’m curious. Are you old enough to remember how bad the trash pickup was in NY, or how the welfare rates soard under Dinkins? That’s something you can thank Giuliani for fixing, btw 😀
“4. Personal injury lawsuits. There are numerous Federal and State personal injury lawsuits by people who were falsely arrested which name Giuliani and a number of the ‘Giuliani Partners’ as defendants. These include a class-action suit now in the works by people illegally put through the system as a punishment for demonstrating against the Mayor. When Giuliani’s divorce lawyer, Raoul Felder, told the judge that ‘Poor Rudy’ was almost broke, he wasn’t factoring in a $3 million dollar book deal, the $100,000 a speech fee he now charges to do his Godfather and Marilyn Monroe imitations at corporate events or the millions in lobbying fees that will be generated as Giuliani Partners begins manipulating the Bloomberg administration from within and without. The Mayor could end up personally liable in some or all of those cases. If the real facts of how he personally ordered political opponents falsely arrested were to come out, ‘America’s Mayor’ could find himself facing millions in personal damages. Member of Giuliani Partners are the key witnesses in these cases and the documents he wants to get control of are the main source of evidence.”
Again, more partisan rhetoric from the self described progressive on here. Do you have anything involving some actual undeniable proof, or is your entire argument about the evil of Giuliani based on speculation and biased bs perspective?
Here’s an article from someone with buyer’s regret of voting for Dinkins making some very good points about him. Since you can’t be bothered to provide me with some actual negative facts about RG’s leadership, i will just post this to you as an appropriate response. Look for the parts about “incompetence” and “ineffectuality” 🙂
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/disgraceful-dinkins/
“5. The sources, true amounts and present location of millions of dollars in campaign donations he received while running for the U.S. Senate. After dropping out of the race Giuliani decided to keep most of the money rather than give it to his replacement, Rick Lazio, who ultimately lost the election to Hillary Clinton. The majority of those donations were from people who did not live in NY State. Much of it was raised by using mailing lists bought from extremist far right groups with racist connections.”
I’m confused…i thought we were discussing the shortcomings of Giuliani as a Mayor and NOT Giuliani as a person AFTER being mayor? This point as well as point 3 lead me to conclude you bear some personal grudge against him that would invariably cloud your otherwise objective interpretation of his time as Mayor. No surprise there, given how prone to histrionics those on your side of the political aisle tend to be.
Back to Dinkins thought…did you realize he finally admitted to screwing up Crown Heights? I can thank him for his honesty, at least 😀
http://crownheights.info/crown-heights-news/20160/dinkins-my-obituary-will-read-how-i-screwed-up-ch/
“6. The West Nile Virus pesticide spraying from 1999-2001. In 1999 Giuliani ordered helicopters to repeatedly spray nerve gas based pesticides directly on the City’s human population in response to what was falsely depicted as a raging epidemic. Every warning printed on the pesticide’s label was ignored, including directions that it must never be sprayed over water or on people and that a minimum 12 hour waiting period should elapse before allowing anyone into areas that were sprayed. Although a chemical contamination handbook with Giuliani’s name on the cover is located in every NYC police precinct and ambulance which describes the chemical – Malathion – as a dangerous toxin related to WWII nerve gasses, Giuliani appeared at press conferences repeatedly insisting that it was ‘completely safe’. In 2000 and 2001 Giuliani repeated his toxic attack on the City’s health this time using other equally dangerous pesticides sprayed from trucks. Among those suing the City for health problems related to the spraying are NYPD officers ordered to accompany the spray trucks without using any protective gear, many of the unskilled men the City hired to do the spraying, members of the lobster fishing industry whose livelihoods were destroyed when the Malathion caused a massive die-off of lobsters after it was sprayed over water in direct violation of NY State law and thousands of New Yorkers who suffered negative health effects.”
Since you mentioned the police, were you aware that under Dinkins they had a very tempestuous relationship, due to his support of the drug dealer Garcia among other things? Even Ed Kock went on record as saying that Dinkins has exercised “gross misjudgement” in that regard.
It’s very likely that the increase in police presence you tend to chirp on here ad nauseam was nothing more than PR stunt designed to give NY’ers the impression that DD was being tough on crime, an impression that fails to take into account how weak Dinkins was perceived on welfare, mob controlled garbage pickup, the porn industry in NY, and crime itself overall. (It’s hard to be considered “tough’ on crime when you enthusiastically support a drug dealer lol)
I realize you will just end up ignoring my points just as easily as you did the last time, but anyone reading our exchange will realize that you are simply speaking from purely a progressive slant with no affinity or adherence to objectivity, whereas i on the other hand am speaking from logic and reason.
I never said Giuliani was an angel, nor that Dinkins was the devil (everyone knows obama is lmao) BUT i’m not going to let you bs me on what your solipsism mind considers “facts” when you have not bothered to post any on here since you began. You only supply bs and speculations from others because you dislike Giuliani immensely, that much is obvious.
“Also those “liberals” you speak of that Fox employs are not true liberals with strong points to make and those “liberals” are held under a scripted leash which they can’t fall far from in the first place…true liberals or people with opposing viewpoints usually frustrate Fox news anchors rather easily. Glen Beck comes across as a loon although he might have stumbled on some truth.”
LOL more bs coming from the guy who can’t back up any of it with facts. Alan Colmes isn’t a true liberal? LMAO yeah right.
“As far as effective leader for the third time I have stated Dinkins was given a city in free-fall with a crack epidemic and high crime rates and was able to turn the tide. All which I have listed and Rudy changed the narrative of that which you mindlessly repeated in your original post the reason for my response in the first place. That shows tenacity, while lying and misinformation and inciting drunk Police Officers (who are supposed to have a higher standard than your average citizen) to storm over barricades into city hall…does not register as strong to me but a lying snake…which might get you far practicing law but not in this conversation. At least you say you speak up against your notoriously ignorant counterparts who have choice words for what you are in the first place.”
Yeah yeah, DD had it so rough, and Giuliani had it soooo easy because of DD. I get it, i just don’t agree. Dinkins did have to deal with a lot but so did Giuliani. If you really think that the actions of a mayor (no matter how good or bad) are enough to give a pass/condemnation on the succeeding one, then your head really is too far shoved up your own rear end to see truth clearly. Dinkins didn’t turn around any crime, the police officers did. All he did was hire them, and all he did with regards to them is make their life more difficult, which is why most of the cops in NY didn’t like him and not because of “racism” which you have as yet to prove was a factor in even his re election bid.
What did i “mindlessly repeat?” I merely copy paste your remarks so i can address them after. How is that “mindless?” We can add that to yet another word you are woefully unfamiliar with, i suppose 🙂
I barely made sense of your nearly unintelligible ramble, but i take it you are saying that Giuliani incited people to riot? Can i have some strong evidence of that please? And not just your bs words on the matter? Thanks.
“Notoriously ignorant”…you are speaking of yourself friend, not anyone else. You’ve been speaking ignorantly on here notoriously and perpetually. Trolling me with your nonsense hasn’t changed that, it’s only changed how effective i consider your liberal indoctrination to actually be:)
And yes of course, all conservatives are “racists, bigots, homophobes, misogynists” bla bla bla bs bla…right?
“As far as the teleprompter point you far underestimate Obama, Obama is simply a smart person. Doesn’t matter if you like him or not he simply is…especially compared to a person like Bush. Again I’m 110 percent sure one on one with no aid Obama would simply crush Bush no contest. As for Reagan I consider Carter a much smarter man by comparison yet he was tarnished as well especially by the Right.
Also more whites get killed but adjusting for population size Blacks and minorities are profiled more arrested for the same minor crimes and killed.
“Some 41.7 per cent of the casualties were white and 31.7 per cent were black.””
LMAO OH MY LORD, THE INDOCTRINATION IS TRULY STRONG IN THIS ONE. “Obama is smart…he simply is” LMAO! Seriously dude, re read what you wrote. Do you have any idea of how that sounds? How it makes you look? You basically just confirmed that you cheerlead for obama and he can do no wrong in your eyes. You also confirmed how seriously uninformed and ignorant you are. Serious facts will have about as much effect on you as sunlight has on the dwarf planet pluto. 😀
You base your view of the “Fact” that a channel 4 blogger is saying so?? Even your article is saying that the results are basically inconclusive: “We haven’t been furnished with the original data by the feds, so we’re relying on secondhand reports from the US media.”
Secondhand reports “prove” what exactly? That they are not meant to be taken as facts to push for an agenda? LMAO YOU SIR ARE AN IMBECILE!
“Also emails has uncovered racism among various Police Departments and black and latino police officers usually go along with the “program.” It Is a shame cause I believe there are good police officers but these behaviors ruin it for the whole lot. NYPD blogs also showed overt racism…so this is not Sharpton telling me this its documented. Also by the way Sharpton never advocated for violence during protests another thing your idiotic network False News states. In fact they are the king of misinformation and biased as rated by non partisan sources that shows like “The Daily Show” with John Stewart which we KNOW are comedy shows and actually do not take serious..ironically portays the news more accurately than Fox News in many instances. That’s the sad part, in fact Fox News should drop the “News” portion from their name and get into comedy as well…but no one will be laughing.”
My mention of Sharpton was a psychological tactic that paid off in dividends. I was trying to find out what your race was, because i really believe i’m dealing with another ignorant black militant who based his/her opinions on racially motivated beliefs. Sure enough, you did not disappoint in that regard. Given that you speak highly of Sharpton, and of course your earlier bromantic love for obama, it’s clear to me i’m dealing with someone who doesnt’ care about any actual facts, but merely public perception that comes with a biased and ignorant belief. Congrats!
Nothing….NOTHING you have said here is actually proof, it’s just more bs biased perspective you are again trying to sell to me at retail. Seriously, your responses are bordering on mental retardation.
Keep watching your MSNBS network hamster, keep thinking you are “informed” and we aren’t….the very fact that you are on here (and also why Fox has strong liberal support in viewership) leads me to think that you are subconsciously at least, trying to inform yourself on the true facts of life and not merely the bs that you have conditioned yourself to believe is true.
“you that the quiet won’t last long.”
You can’t even write in a comprehensible manner…tsk…you’re just another ignorant uneducated black militant who hates Giuliani because he is White and a republican. Thanks for the contribution.
“I bring up Ron Paul because although I don’t agree with him overall his knowledge and honesty regarding Geo Politics destroys the narrative pushed by nearly all Republicans today..which helps my point that they feed mindless garbage to many of their ignorant viewers on Fox and the rest of Right Wing propaganda on the internet and other outlets. Perhaps you should add misinformation to your other 3 qualities Ramos.”
Third eye, you really should change your name to Third eye BLIND because it’s obvious you are several lacking in ocular ability especially when it comes to political matters. This therefore makes you as qualified to consider anyone “ignorant” as a tax cheat is in considering anyone else a thief.
Seriously, take what you can from this site and please refrain from posting prejudice based nonsense here. Your links only serves to prove the possibility of racial motivation on behalf of cops, which doesn’t serve to demonstrate anything more substantive than the fact there are bad cops as well as good cops. Since our original argument was about dinkins and giuliani, i therefore conclude that:
you believe dinkins was a good mayor because he was black.
you believe obama is a good president because he is black.
you believe that most cops are racist, that dinkins lost because of racism, and that anyone who disagrees with you is racist, possibly myself included.
Seriously, you are pathetic.
not sure if this is funny or frightening
Yes of course, obama is better at everything than bush,obama is smarter than bush and all white people, because he is a democrat and because he is black. I totally understand lol.
What’s the point of disagreeing with your nonsense on here? You didn’t come to this site to debate, you came to troll it with racially based bs.
Nothing on here is fact, it’s just mere opinion. You might as well say “the color of the sun is black i think” and argue with me over disagreeing with it; it’s essentially the same thing. You believe that your false god obama is perfect and can do no wrong, making you one of the most ignorant and idiotic people i have yet to come across here.
You are too far inculated in leftist philosophy and black liberation bs to see things clearly. Are you a muslim? I’m curious :P)
Oh and before i forget…:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8id95MUhuo
Dude, enough- did you know neither dubya nor obama wanted to run for prez? Now, what does that tell you?
This guy is like the godzilla of stupid and ignorant. My favorite part is this:
“Obama, Obama is simply a smart person. Doesn’t matter if you like him or not he simply is…especially compared to a person like Bush.”
lmao it’s like debating with a lobotomized valerie jarrett lololol
And your ignorance shows with every succeeding remark you make, so you are hardly any better.
Not cool. Injecting a blatantly prejudicial remark to attack Blacks overall is a thing of shame, regardless of your issue with the third eye troll.
Carter was not a good president. Somebody was probably too old to remember the gas lines that are infamously attributed to his presidency, among other things.
You are hardly any better for thinking Dinkins rode to earth on a golden chariot after being blessed personally by Ra. 😉
How can you talk about seeing things from a “different” perspective when you’ve been posting nothing but a one sided perspective since you started trolling here?
Seriously, how deep does the rabbit hole of your hypocrisy actually go?
I never said he did I offered the rare difference or ONLY difference of opinion here. You don’t have a solid grasp on the overall conversation arch do you? You and other’s were presenting one view the mostly conservative view I presented a MORE complete picture on the situation based on FACTS. I never said Dinkins was perfect neither.
Your gushing praise of him (as well as obama) is proof enough of that.
Nobody offered to purchase your opinion especially given that the quality of it is poor indeed. You responded to me about Giuliani and then you expanded it to include an attack on cops in general using nothing more than ad hominems, polemics and of course the classic red herring.
This dialogue between us has nothing to do with Roosh’s thread about NY period so spamming it deliberately and continuously doesn’t leave you in a good light at all.
You don’t know what a fact is. Facts are NOT your words alone.
Google the definition of “fact” and you will see this:
“a thing that is indisputably the case.”
Your words are hardly indisputable, in fact the opposite has been true lol
Yes that is called Geo-Politics something that many Republicans don’t have a grasp on. These events were set in motion long before when Mosaddegh who was democratically elected was deposed by a US backed coup and they installed the Shah to benefit American and Western CORPORATIONS something your cohort openly supports…this overthrow of the Shah and his dynasty cause the Oil Shock during Carter’s Administration. Carter is also a very intelligent man and scholar as well as a prolific writer Reagan is an actor who had a great voice.
He also was able to bring the Palestinians and Israelis to the table effectively. Most of America panders to the Zionist Israeli Goverment and look away as they break UN rules without repercussions especially the Republican Party who bends over for them with glee. Some of Carter’s accomplishments.
. Created the Department of Energy. The DOE provided the administration with the bureaucratic chops to formulate and implement what could have been a comprehensive, long-term national energy strategy. Had Carter’s aggressive gas mileage standards continued to be pursued by subsequent administrations, we would today — 30-odd years later — be dramatically less dependent on Saudi oil.
2. Created the Department of Education. Despite howls from anti-government groups who opposed yet another federal agency, the decision to carve out Education from the already over-burdened Department. of Health, Education and Welfare (now the Department of Health and Human Services) was a bold and necessary one.
3. Supported SALT II (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks). It sounds trivial today, but in the 1970s a nuclear non-proliferation pact, even a flawed one, was seen as an important step in forging a lasting peace with the USSR. A generation ago, people were genuinely frightened of a nuclear holocaust. Although Carter and Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev signed the agreement, the U.S. Congress, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, refused to ratify it.
4. Brokered the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. By initiating the Camp David Accords between Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat (which led directly to the landmark treaty), Carter laid the groundwork for improved Israeli-Arab relations. That good relations in the region never materialized wasn’t Carter’s fault.
5. Installed solar panels in the White House. This was not only a practical gesture, but a symbolic one as well, demonstrating to the world that America was serious about conserving energy, and that conservation does, indeed, begin at home. Alas, Ronald Reagan believed solar panels made the United States look pathetic and needy, and had them removed.
6. Boycotted the 1980 Olympics. In response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Carter boycotted the Moscow games, a decision that earned him ridicule and scorn, even though Japan, West Germany, China, Canada, et al, supported his decision. Boycotts are unpredictable. Some work, most don’t. Still, who knows what would have happened if the world had boycotted the 2004 Olympics to protest of the U.S. invasion of Iraq? It might have made a difference.
7. Granted amnesty to Vietnam draft-dodgers. Even though Carter issued these unconditional pardons on January 21, 1977 (his first day in office), the political fallout was severe enough to cost him votes in the 1980 election. Controversial as it was, this gutsy call helped move the country forward, providing closure to one of the most divisive issues in American history.
8. Established diplomatic relations with China. Officially transferring U.S. diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to mainland China seems like a no-brainer today, but in the year 1979 it was a singularly progressive move.
9. Pushed for comprehensive health care reform. Carter’s plan was bigger, better, cheaper and — right out of the blocks — had a greater chance of passing in its original form than either Clinton’s or Obama’s plan, but inertia, timidity, and old-fashioned politics (both Democratic and Republican) ultimately killed it.
10. Returned the Panama Canal to Panama. Another gutsy move that surely cost him votes. By ceding the canal to tiny Panama, the mighty U.S. looked confident and magnanimous…. instead of paranoid and petty. Although Carter was able to secure bipartisan support, of the 20 senators who voted in favor of the treaty, and were up for re-election, only 7 were re-elected.
not really my knowledge has shown to be much wider than yours so if I’m ignorant I’m scared to see where that leaves you Ramos lol.
Dude I’m having a conversation with someone else my opinion is in the minority on this site. You are a decent guy from your writing but oddly you never respond to the person I am writing with.
This is a fascinating exchange-did you grow up in nyc 3rd eye?
What we have here is a latino, a white guy(me) and a black guy- are we really that different? Different in terms of what we want to be happy?? Ramos grew up in the hood, so did I- how about you? What we want as men, is it that different??
I never said none of those things you are putting false words into my mouth like you put false ideas in your brain.
Third Eye’s a classic black troll: everything is whitey’s fault, black people are superior, lie, lie, lie, deny deny deny, and then keep repeating the same jargon ad nauseum in as many posts as your affirmative-action job’s down time will let you.
take the red pill on race.
Actually your tactic was not effective because there are white people who can think critically regarding Sharpton and be partial or even agree with Sharpton so it doesn’t prove my race first of all. Also from past conversations you can easily see what my background is but you are not as smart as you think. You must be a serious simpleton, my first reply was based on facts and statistics and links that you can look up. Again you use sarcasm in an effeminate way so much for your marine masculinity persona. Actually your writing is devolving into an emotional rant, at the beginning I had at least some respect for you but now your panties are showing big time.
Honestly I don’t watch MSNBC cause they are very biased second only to Fox News of course lol. I watch a wide variety of News outlets none of which have been mentioned in this “discussion” which has devolved into a sissified rant by you. Obviously I’m not a “Black Militant” or whatever you think that means in your mind…and I don’t hate people because they are white lol I disagree with people no matter skin color, or nationality all that matters is their views and their character. Also on the Healthcare issue yes I do believe that Healthcare should be more accessible. Most Americans except the wealthy are one major health issue away from not being able to put food on the table. If the Supreme Court votes it down people in Red States that need ACA will make their respective Republican leaders pay with their votes.
Important note here is a white man who actually supports Rev Wright having an interview with Fox News but not letting them twist the interview in the manner they want to. But this might be a lot for you to handle Ramos.
It was not a gushing praise just a more complete picture on the incomplete and therefore inaccurate picture you originally painted along with others. The dialogue between us actually has to do with your initial response, we can also reply to specific commentary which I did. MY main response was a longer one addressing the general issues of Dating and living in New York with some points on the Giuliani and Dinkins situation to address some of the commentary which included yours.
Also I do know Democrats take Big Money as well, my real candidates I am more favorable towards don’t usually make it far so I have to make a decision between bad and worse…and in the last election Romney was simply the worst candidate because he conflicted with the issues most important to me. Again no one said my word alone was fact silly, lol again I stated I listed statistics to back up my statement. The statistics are facts. You said Dinkins was racist so I naturally responded to show you how Giuliani used misinformation and went along with some of the racist police. They were heard shouting racial slurs towards Dinkins. Again this is not opinion I also backed it up with VIDEO of the police riot that ensued. lol you are light work.
If Daniel Ramos is your real name, you lived in NYC, now live in the south and have your face in profile, maybe you should just give specifics for the readers rather than operate under the illusion of anonymity. Anyone who knew you knows it’s you, and anyone more important probably knows more than you know about yourself if they cared to look.
Just saying…
Botswana doesn’t even rank in the top 100 for GNP. And so called soth Europe countries like Italy rank 8th and Spain about 12th even with populations 1/30th of China or India. Botswana isn’t bad by African standards but the wealth is from international companies that mine gems and uranium there.
Those other places in the West Indies and Jamaica were British or Euro run. Actually Bermuda has the highest income for negroes but it’s tiny.
Don’t worry about voting in the next election because gentrification will clean the underclasses out of the city.You’ll get your 40 acres and a mule in the middle of nowhere.You’ll be happier on your own plantation with no nasty whites to oppress you.Nice easy healthy life outside of the cities where the living is easier.
Yeah because people would really give a rat’s arse about who you are. Unless your picture is up at the post office on the wanted posters lol
Ghouliani is a low class arsehole in a lot of ways.
I wouldn’t call Republicans ignorant though. If we required an average IQ(100) to be able to vote no democrat would ever be elected again.
Don’t worry he’s not running the country and is just a puppet.
GNP is irrelevant. GDP/GNP per capita is what I am talking about. Who cares where the wealth comes from? China’s boom is largely the result of foreign direct investment from America and Chinese who don’t live in China. The same can be said for all developing countries. Why do you want to malign their success by saying, “well their wealth comes from others investing”? That is is the history of mankind essentially; the French invested heavily in the 13 colonies. Rome invested heavily in what is today England, etc..
All I am saying is that there are more than a handful of countries run by “negroes” that have a higher standard of living than WHITE countries like Ukraine, Albania, Macedonia, etc..
“Yes that is called Geo-Politics something that many Republicans don’t have a grasp on. These events were set in motion long before when Mosaddegh who was democratically elected was deposed by a US backed coup and they installed the Shah to benefit American and Western CORPORATIONS something your cohort openly supports…this overthrow of the Shah and his dynasty cause the Oil Shock during Carter’s Administration. Carter is also a very intelligent man and scholar as well as a prolific writer Reagan is an actor who had a great voice.”
Geopolitics is just a vague term that leftist pseudoscholars like yourself use to try and pass yourselves off as informed. It’s just a pity that any real scholar that has done any real study of the macroeconomics of the US (look that one up btw :D) can properly deduce that Carter’s policies did absolutely NOTHING To help improve the economy. He and his comical relief brother only served to get us from one snafu to another. As always, you do nothing but post words you likely googled on wikipedia without offering any real proof to justify your implications.
If you are going to talk about Mosaddegh, maybe i should talk about his successor Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and how he himself was overthrown by the ayatollah Khomeini because he was widely perceived as a puppet under the control and influence of jimmy carter, who ended up turning his back on him when he needed him most. Given that Carter publicly embraced the Shah, and even made a trip to Iran to follow up on that toast, is it any wonder then that the Islamic hardliners would have a deep issue with that? So please, spare me your “republicans control foreign interest” insinuations, because as i have just shown your boy Carter is hardly any better. This is part of why history remembers him as such a weak and ineffectual leader who ranks consistently BELOW Reagan (a truly great president) and even George Bush junior. Don’t believe me? Let’s go tit for tat on that and see 😉
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/05/jimmy_carter_can_only_blame_hi.html
Carter’s presidency can be marked by much incompetency, from the Iranian hostage crisis to the way he bungled the Shah’s regime, but the energy crisis is the one we are addressing here so i won’t speak on the rest any further.
As far as that is concerned, Carter’s price controls, like so many attempts to artificially quell economic upticks, failed miserably, because it ended up making gas dealers ration their gas to select customers on a first come first serve basis, which had the concomitant effect of creating gas lines. Anytime the government tries to artificially stem the tide of a sudden market swing in this direction or that direction it usually ends up causing more problems than it solves, because the market can’t be controlled through artificial means commonly found in a progressively regulated economic environment. This is part of the reason why obama himself is doing so poorly on the economy, his so called stimulus packages that have been designed to give a boost to the economy have ended up hurting it, as it took money from the taxpayers and wasted it on so called job creations and other things which fell far short of expectations and only succeeded in increasing the size of the deficit.
But i digress…
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/PriceControls.html
I will say this for Jimmy Carter, he at least had the intellectual credibility to criticizes obama for his incompetency regarding ISIL 😀
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2014/1008/Jimmy-Carter-slams-Obama-on-IS.-Pile-on-week-at-White-House
“He also was able to bring the Palestinians and Israelis to the table effectively. Most of America panders to the Zionist Israeli Goverment and look away as they break UN rules without repercussions especially the Republican Party who bends over for them with glee. Some of Carter’s accomplishments.”
He brought them to the table yes, effectively? No. This is why (again) the Shah Pahlavi was deposed, because he was seen as an instrument of western influence. I find it amusing that you overlook Carter’s support of a Shah who was relatively friendly towards Israel while chastising republicans for “looking away” on “zionism.” Hypocrite much? Or just ignorant?
“. Created the Department of Energy. The DOE provided the administration with the bureaucratic chops to formulate and implement what could have been a comprehensive, long-term national energy strategy. Had Carter’s aggressive gas mileage standards continued to be pursued by subsequent administrations, we would today — 30-odd years later — be dramatically less dependent on Saudi oil.”
You think that expanding the reach of government through the creation of the DOE is a positive? You truly are an ignoramus. The DOE did nothing to stop the rising oil prices which didn’t start to lower until Reagan took office. Creating the DOE only served to expand the US government’s influence (control) over Americans and added to the national debt through its maintenance costs lol. Next time try posting some links to some verifiable information and not just run off at the mouth with your leftist bs.
“2. Created the Department of Education. Despite howls from anti-government groups who opposed yet another federal agency, the decision to carve out Education from the already over-burdened Department. of Health, Education and Welfare (now the Department of Health and Human Services) was a bold and necessary one.”
Bold and necessary? Hardly. The DOE like the other DOE was just another excuse to create another branch of the government to control Americans, this time through public education. If you even knew what the US government can and can’t do, you’d also realize that its creation was fundamentally unconstitutional, since the constitution DOES NOT give the FED the authority to supervise education over the states.
http://www.cato.org/blog/yes-department-education-unconstitutional
“3. Supported SALT II (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks). It sounds trivial today, but in the 1970s a nuclear non-proliferation pact, even a flawed one, was seen as an important step in forging a lasting peace with the USSR. A generation ago, people were genuinely frightened of a nuclear holocaust. Although Carter and Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev signed the agreement, the U.S. Congress, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, refused to ratify it.”
Lol! It figures that you would be for a treaty that basically castrates US nuclear readiness, proving my belief overall that people like you only want to destroy the US, rather than actually empower it.
How you would be ok with a US president and a Russian communist signing a deal that effectively makes the US weaker is beyond me. Again, you are an idiot.
Btw, the “lasting peace” that you speak of came through Reagan in his strong negotiations with Gorbachev, which resulted in the iron curtain coming down:)
“4. Brokered the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. By initiating the Camp David Accords between Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat (which led directly to the landmark treaty), Carter laid the groundwork for improved Israeli-Arab relations. That good relations in the region never materialized wasn’t Carter’s fault.”
Of course not, nothing is carter’s fault in your eyes because he is a D and your brainwashing compels you to think that every D is a saint. That peace treaty wasn’t worth the price it was printed on. Sadat was assassinated less than 3 years later by Islamic hardliners in large part because of his perceived support of Israel. Nice try lol.
“5. Installed solar panels in the White House. This was not only a practical gesture, but a symbolic one as well, demonstrating to the world that America was serious about conserving energy, and that conservation does, indeed, begin at home. Alas, Ronald Reagan believed solar panels made the United States look pathetic and needy, and had them removed.”
Reagan removed them because they were not cost effective and because they were problematic to maintain. The “practical gesture” by Carter to install them was largely symbolic, since solar panels themselves cost more to maintain than they reward in actual savings. Get a clue.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mike-ciandella/2013/08/15/usa-today-finds-home-solar-panels-not-cost-effective
“6. Boycotted the 1980 Olympics. In response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Carter boycotted the Moscow games, a decision that earned him ridicule and scorn, even though Japan, West Germany, China, Canada, et al, supported his decision. Boycotts are unpredictable. Some work, most don’t. Still, who knows what would have happened if the world had boycotted the 2004 Olympics to protest of the U.S. invasion of Iraq? It might have made a difference.”
This is nothing more than meaningless speculation that attempts to take Carter’s largely superficial gesture and embellish them in order to fulfill the solipsist belief of the person writing about them. Wiping Carter’s ass, in a sense.
“7. Granted amnesty to Vietnam draft-dodgers. Even though Carter issued these unconditional pardons on January 21, 1977 (his first day in office), the political fallout was severe enough to cost him votes in the 1980 election. Controversial as it was, this gutsy call helped move the country forward, providing closure to one of the most divisive issues in American history.”
You consider it “gutsy” i consider it a betrayal of military protocol. It insults the actions of all the patriots and others who DIDNT dodge the draft and lost their innocence and worse in vietnam. For you to list this as a “positive” for carter is simply disgraceful, regardless of the futility of the war itself.
“8. Established diplomatic relations with China. Officially transferring U.S. diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to mainland China seems like a no-brainer today, but in the year 1979 it was a singularly progressive move.”
Wrong. If you want to get technical, official diplomatic relations between the US and China began with President John Tyler, in the treaty of Wanghia.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/635458/Treaty-of-Wanghia
“9. Pushed for comprehensive health care reform. Carter’s plan was bigger, better, cheaper and — right out of the blocks — had a greater chance of passing in its original form than either Clinton’s or Obama’s plan, but inertia, timidity, and old-fashioned politics (both Democratic and Republican) ultimately killed it.”
So your positive listing for JC here is that he simply had “good intentions” lmao…that truly symbolizes the weak and largely superficial position your entire philosophy is based on, to speak nothing of its duplicitous nature.
Comprehensive health care reform like with most anything else democrats try to pass, would have been just as unconstitutional then as it was under obama. The US government has no formal constitutional right to regulate the health care interests of the American individual, regardless of what SCOTUS says.
“10. Returned the Panama Canal to Panama. Another gutsy move that surely cost him votes. By ceding the canal to tiny Panama, the mighty U.S. looked confident and magnanimous…. instead of paranoid and petty. Although Carter was able to secure bipartisan support, of the 20 senators who voted in favor of the treaty, and were up for re-election, only 7 were re-elected.”
Lol “gutsy” is a word that, like so much of everything else you say here, is just pure bs. Thanks to Carter’s efforts, we ended up having to pay to pass through a canal that WE built. We ended up looking like idiots on that one, which is probably a good thing in your eyes.
http://www.newsmax.com/Freind/panama-canal-zone-roosevelt/2014/03/14/id/559635/
You haven’t shown any actual knowledge, only a flair for passing off bullshit as knowledge. Very little of what you have said thus far is actual fact, you merely copy paste your views from left wing cites that you are too much of a coward to cite from because they would be summarily annihilated by me.
Yeah right, maybe you forgot the lemming response that you offered earlier, where you basically stated (like the typical obama zombie) that obama is “smart, even if you don’t think he is”
My ideas originate from actual research and not from bullshit i read from left wing sources that do for my brain what smoking does to lungs.
You have the IQ of burnt toast and your words before and after this response of mine will only help reinforce this statement.
No, he is a troll but you aren’t doing us any favors by injecting race in your remarks. It only serves to give him an added incentive to claim that we oppose him because of racial motivations.
A true red pill can make a fine argument without the use or need of racially motivated remarks.
“Actually your tactic was not effective because there are white people who can think critically regarding Sharpton and be partial or even agree with Sharpton so it doesn’t prove my race first of all. Also from past conversations you can easily see what my background is but you are not as smart as you think. You must be a serious simpleton, my first reply was based on facts and statistics and links that you can look up. Again you use sarcasm in an effeminate way so much for your marine masculinity persona. Actually your writing is devolving into an emotional rant, at the beginning I had at least some respect for you but now. “Actually your writing is devolving into an emotional rant, at the beginning I had at least some respect for you but now your panties are showing big time. ”
Of course there are white people who like sharpton, they are called white liberals lol. To think of them as critical thinkers is a vast stretch of intellectual credibility however. Sharpton is a race baiting huckster who makes his living off of fooling Black people into thinking he is there to help them, when he is really there to support his bank account.
You are just full of shit, you came on here to lecture me about giuliani and ended up taking that to a condemnation of his entire reason for living as well as lemming cheerleading for obama when most people in the US agree he is a terrible horrible no good very bad president (to quote from the alexander book lol)
So if my psychological tactic didn’t work, tell me what race you are then? because you really do come across as a Black militant who embraces liberation philosophy. What “facts and statistics” have you shown? None. You just copy paste from articles to support your statements and you don’t even do that consistently. Most of what you write here is pure solipsism that now qualifies as trolling. You are just a left wing spammer that is out to troll this site with bullshit which is why i stopped giving you the respect i give to anyone who is truly serious about an intellectual exchange. Anyone who knows me on here knows i am good for a debate, but what you seek and offer isn’t a debate, it’s a forum to spread your ignorance. You wouldn’t know masculinity if it bit you on the ass because a real Man wouldn’t come here to consistently troll with nonsense, he would accept that people won’t agree with him and move on.
You are not a real Man, hence your presence here is merely to attack those that are. Excuse me if i don’t therefore take your words as anything more than the bullshit that they consist of.
“Honestly I don’t watch MSNBC cause they are very biased second only to Fox News of course lol. I watch a wide variety of News outlets none of which have been mentioned in this “discussion” which has devolved into a sissified rant by you. Obviously I’m not a “Black Militant” or whatever you think that means in your mind…and I don’t hate people because they are white lol I disagree with people no matter skin color, or nationality all that matters is their views and their character. Also on the Healthcare issue yes I do believe that Healthcare should be more accessible. Most Americans except the wealthy are one major health issue away from not being able to put food on the table. If the Supreme Court votes it down people in Red States that need ACA will make their respective Republican leaders pay with their votes.”
There is no rant to speak of, i’m merely calling you out on your nonsense because i have a very low tolerance for people who insult my intelligence. You try to pass off belief as fact and you deserve high ridicule for it. You came on here to troll Roosh’s thread with an irrelevant remark about Giuliani which we could have agreed to disagree peacefully on. Rather than do that, you choose instead to try and pass off your petty emotional issues with him as fact, which insults my intelligence. Any scorn and ridicule directed at you by me is well deserved for that reason. If you are not a Black militant you certainly sound like one, and your avatar leads to that belief. You don’t post any facts, merely solipsist belief passed off as fact. You insult the collectively high IQ of the faithful readership here and since you began this exchange with me it’s up to me to hold you accountable for it. You may not watch MSNBS but you obviously watch other left wing news sources, including PCNN; your indoctrination speaks much to that effect.
Regarding your views on healthcare affordability, you are the type of person who foolishly believes that the government can somehow lower the cost of it, when the government can’t even lower the cost of the national deficit that they continue to add to whenever they try to lower the cost of anything. Any attempt to do so only ends up lowering the quality overall, which you would be more informed on if you actually worked in the medical industry as i do.
“Important note here is a white man who actually supports Rev Wright having an interview with Fox News but not letting them twist the interview in the manner they want to. But this might be a lot for you to handle Ramos”
A White Man supporting Rev Wright means nothing; as i said earlier there are White liberals with White guilt who support Black racists so i’m not impressed in the least, hamster.
“It was not a gushing praise just a more complete picture on the incomplete and therefore inaccurate picture you originally painted along with others. The dialogue between us actually has to do with your initial response, we can also reply to specific commentary which I did. MY main response was a longer one addressing the general issues of Dating and living in New York with some points on the Giuliani and Dinkins situation to address some of the commentary which included yours. ”
No of course not, your remark that obama “is intelligent even if you dont think he is” is just more of what you consider a “fact” lol.
See? This is why i don’t respect you, and neither should anyone else here. You shamelessly pass off your lemming remarks as facts and then take issue with being called out on them. You are the very definition of solipsism because you don’t accept anything as possible beyond that which your pedestrian perspective accepts as fact.
Regardless of what else you said that was not directed at me, what you chose to respond to me with (that initiated this dialogue between us) was largely irrelevant to the thread in general. Worse, you injected banalities, exaggerations and outright lies into your responses to me, and didn’t (for the most part) offer any real citation to legitimate evidences to support them. You are entitled to your own opinions but NOT your own facts; very little (if anything) of what you have said here is actual fact, it’s just pure opinion you continue to troll in passing off as fact.
“Also I do know Democrats take Big Money as well, my real candidates I am more favorable towards don’t usually make it far so I have to make a decision between bad and worse…and in the last election Romney was simply the worst candidate because he conflicted with the issues most important to me. Again no one said my word alone was fact silly, lol again I stated I listed statistics to back up my statement. The statistics are facts. You said Dinkins was racist so I naturally responded to show you how Giuliani used misinformation and went along with some of the racist police. They were heard shouting racial slurs towards Dinkins. Again this is not opinion I also backed it up with VIDEO of the police riot that ensued. lol you are light work.”
Romney wasn’t the worst, Obama was the worst. His anti American, anti Constitutional, anti Christian anti capitalist and well documented endeavors are proof positive of that. When you bothered to list any “statistics” it was usually to an article written by a blogger or a daily news citation…those again are NOT facts, but the opinion pieces of people who may be speaking from a political and biased perspective. (the ones you listed were biased)
I never said Dinkins was racist, i said if you were going to state that Giuliani and or his supporters were racist (remember your “staten island” remark?) then i can just as easily state that Dinkins was a racist given his racial inclinations regarding Crown Heights/Lemrick Nelson contrasted with the murder of Yankel Rosenbaum, for instance. Anyone reading this exchange between us can see who actually makes the better argument….and trust me when i say, it’s definitely not you.
“backed it up with video of the police riot that ensued”
You started this whole racial charge friend, when you accused or otherwise implied that Giuliani was racist, which led me to cite the questionable racial motivatons of Dinkins. You can’t even be bothered to tell the truth on that, which is yet another reason trolling scum like you deserves none and will get none from me. When you start to pass off your views intelligently and seriously then you will get the respect you would otherwise deserve, but only after giving the respect we deserve for having to hear your largely irrelevant opinion to start with.
You didn’t prove anything about Giuliani, you only proved that you hate him. Again, your solipsist views are not fact.
It’s not my name, it’s part of my name.
The face is real but that is fine, i want people to see my face and know what it is i represent. I want people to associate my face with the conservative philosophy i champion effectively, here and anywhere else.
Marcus, i have made several enemies in my life; people who have told me flat out that they want my information in order to get me fired, for instance.
I make no deliberate attempt to pass myself off as famous, nor am i infamous in the sense that you mentioned.
I am however an outspoken champion of the conservative philosophy, here and in person. As such, i make deliberate attempts to make any accurate information about me impossible or nearly impossible to obtain. Nothing short of facial recognition software that the NSA likely employs can discover who i truly am. Since the government already has access to that technology chances are good they already know who i am and likely have me on a conservative watchdog list, so i don’t bother to worry about that. I expect them to come for me as they would for all the other real Americans someday anyway.
Carter was largely incompetent, any good intentions he actually had usually ended up making things worse than actually better.
He does respond, he just does so intelligently, unlike you.
Did he ever respond to this? Will he ever, i wonder…
You see the National Elections are the key and the population is shifting, and thus the policies and the Parties will shift with the Population shifts, or they will slowly die a political death. And no amount of gerrymandering will stop it as time goes on,
Are you positive about that cause based on most of the comment sections in Conservative Websites Im surprised many of those people register above 75.
Actually most of your posts are full of bullshit but you get to pass it along because in this particular site you will sit in a chamber of your own nonsense. At least with me I bring a more complete analysis of the the political landscape. No one is copying and pasting from left wing sites…in fact when you spew stupidity like the “teleprompter thing it gives you away as a hypocrite because that’s the same nonsense I see repeated in every Right Wing Site.
LOL I basically stated if you honestly think that Bush is as smart as Obama? Forget Political Parties and if you like what the man stands for. Its a very simple question.
lol My IQ sits comfortably above average across all racial backgrounds, so your comment has no impact on me. And actually I don’t base overall Intelligence on I.Q. anyway.
Actually a white Man supporting Rev Wright actually disproves you assertion that because I support any leader that bring awareness of the Black Plight indicates that I’m any sort of “Black Militant” (whatever your definition of that is) has no bearing in what I am.
On the Media Outlets I watch all of them sometimes even the most biased Fox News to see what type of ignorance they spew and noting by some of your words here I see you mimic some of their talking points.
I don’t care what you tolerate and what you don’t tolerate honestly, I just pointed out factual points with statistics that you can actually look up and paints a more complete picture. Its very easy to go to a site like this and be applauded for generalizations of a particular ideology.
As for the National Debt yes its an ongoing problem that has continued throughout the Presidency of both parties…so what is your proposal then? Companies and Corporations in the Healthcare care about the bottom line and money, just as they generally do in every other sphere because that is what business is all about. That is why Companies are NOT “people.” If Companies had full reign then they will screw you out of insurance anyway they can, right now even a minor surgery or just a trip to the hospital for a anything minor will strain most American’s households. And more Americans have to pay more now because companies are hiring at part time more often then before and workers are not getting healthcare as much as past generations. The dollar has been taken off the Gold Standard and is not backed by anything since President Nixon made the U.S. Dollar Fiat Currency. Since then Wall Street, Corporations, and Government bought by Big Money has helped to cause this ever increasing Deficit we face today. The Republicans OPENLY Support Big Money and Corporations which helped to cause this. Its actually very simple. The Democrats are almost or just as bad and the only reason to vote for a Democrat is because the Republicans are that much worse.
I never accused all the members of the readers here. Some debate and make valid points while a segment makes broad generalizations about Liberals or Race also insulting you I might add. Making sweeping statements about Latinos and their negative impact as well. I think I can question their ignorance can I not? Life is nuanced and layered and not all Progressives agree with everything in the Democratic Party just as you say that I cannot make generalizations about everyone in the Republican Party.
Also on an interesting not why do you make assumptions of my Avatar? What kind of conclusions do you draw from the Avatar? I’m actually curious to see what assumptions you come up with since your earlier assumptions are based on faulty “evidence.”
Actually I proved a lot about Giuliani and I don’t “hate” the man, however you can question if he “hates” others. Its interesting how some people I have talked with, when someone brings up even the most hateful actions on a people or race, they respond and call hateful the very people who are just questioning hateful policies upon them!
I also noticed some Blacks and some Latinos seem to turn a blind eye towards whites talking bad about their people, but yet jump at the chance to rebuff one of their own who question and bring up factual issues. I see that a lot in Right Wing Media. Larry Elder being the perfect example, a Black Man supported by the most Racist White ignorant Right Wingers in this country, kind of sad if you ask me.
Again you should study the definition of what a “Troll” is idiot, and scum like yourself you should look in the mirror to see what it is made of. A “Troll’s purpose is to directly inflame people on a website, that is not my intention. Despite the generalizations made here, not all progressives support Feminism or different issues of Feminism, or support Democratic Party lines blindly. Obviously I agree with some articles, but also I bring a more complete analysis to Politics for example the Giuliani issue. For example on a site like this you can generalize all day or paint an inaccurate picture of Giuliani while I can direct you to FACTS and trends and show you how that narrative is incomplete in the first place
I laugh at your little emotional responses.
LMAO!!! good one Ramos, my points were valid and they were made, don’t think your emotional streak will change that.
There’s no echo chamber here to speak of, most of the faithful readers here don’t necessarily agree with every single point made by every other member because we have too much critical thinking to engage in uniform opinion related conformism.
All you do is try to project your own inadequacies onto everyone else.You don’t bring anything more than polemics into a conversation because you have no real facts to debate with. This latest post from you proves it, it’s just more solipsist bs you are trolling with.
I’m a hypocrite because i list the teleprompter to attack obama over but you are not for listing bush and his “fool me once comment?”
You are too stupid to even realize how profoundly stupid you are. This comment is proof enough of that lol
If you want the answer to that, yes i do. Bush for all his perceived intellectual inadequacy respected the constitution far more than obama ever will within his benighted existence as president.
A president that has at least a basic respect for the constitution is smarter as a president than one that does not. The one you bromantically are in love with doesn’t have enough presidential IQ to wipe his ass unassisted.
Yes, your wonderfully inelegant and unintelligible remarks speak volumes about your “above average” intelligence lol.
More solipsist bs. Get lost. Your trolling here is growing duller by the moment.
Actually who is to say that anybody offered to purchase your opinion as well? I was not “Attacking” cops in general, however I think I can justly criticize cops who are supposed to uphold the law and are viewed at a higher standard when they get drunk and shout racial slurs at their mayor. The same cops who will most likely call you a SPIC Ramos. You ever thought about that Ramos? And yes words don’t hurt but that potential Baton on your head does. These are the same cops that make the good ones look bad. Again, again my original post was pertaining to Roosh’s article, should I rewrite it for you in a manner that you can comprehend? I responded to you because it’s an open forum and you brought up Giuliani…in another post you also stated that you couldn’t wait to get out of that “Liberal Hell Hole.” So my reply was directly for YOU, to paint a more complete picture on your original incomplete picture. Understand.
“Actually a white Man supporting Rev Wright actually disproves you assertion that because I support any leader that bring awareness of the Black Plight indicates that I’m any sort of “Black Militant” (whatever your definition of that is) has no bearing in what I am.On the Media Outlets I watch all of them sometimes even the most biased Fox News to see what type of ignorance they spew and noting by some of your words here I see you mimic some of their talking points.
I don’t care what you tolerate and what you don’t tolerate honestly, I just pointed out factual points with statistics that you can actually look up and paints a more complete picture. Its very easy to go to a site like this and be applauded for generalizations of a particular ideology. ”
No it doesn’t. A Black militant would use anyone even White people to promote Black liberation theology. Your specious argument there is therefore nullified. You still haven’t told me what race you are which leads me to think i am correct to identify you as such, you just refuse to give me the credit 😉
Your remarks don’t ever provide any actual facts, merely opinion, which is why they are so easy to annihilate. You come here to insult the site and its faithful membership which means you are a genuine troll so your true motives there are obvious for anyone with half a brain to see. It’s why for all your copy pasted nonsense you have yet to get anyone to “like” your bs since it’s so obvious to them that you are full of shit.
If you don’t like this site because of what passes here then don’t come. You are a hypocrite for coming here in order to get intentionally offended as well as a troll for continuing to express that offense. Get lost junior.
“As for the National Debt yes its an ongoing problem that has continued throughout the Presidency of both parties…so what is your proposal then? Companies and Corporations in the Healthcare care about the bottom line and money, just as they generally do in every other sphere because that is what business is all about. That is why Companies are NOT “people.” If Companies had full reign then they will screw you out of insurance anyway they can, right now even a minor surgery or just a trip to the hospital for a anything minor will strain most American’s households. And more Americans have to pay more now because companies are hiring at part time more often then before and workers are not getting healthcare as much as past generations. The dollar has been taken off the Gold Standard and is not backed by anything since President Nixon made the U.S. Dollar Fiat Currency. Since then Wall Street, Corporations, and Government bought by Big Money has helped to cause this ever increasing Deficit we face today”
Companies ARE people because they are made up by people who make decisions just like every other type of person does. You don’t consider them people because to you rich = evil which is yet more prog blue pill bs that you swallowed willingly.
You want to cite the cost of surgery and trips to the hospital but wait…wasn’t obamacare supposed to fix all that? Wasn’t obamacare supposed to make everything more affordable, including surgery costs? Dude, i work in the medical industry, i have seen the bottom line, the proposals by management to merge with another hospital in order to offset costs because of obamacare! What firsthand experience do you have with it? Besides the kind you fabricate in your own mind?
You want to list for me all the bad things that are in healthcare right now, but yet excuse your master in the WH for his obamacare regulation which affected them all…why exactly? Because of your love for him? Sorry, no sale. Your bs may get you a pass on whatever left wing site you call home but not here.
You actually made sense here to some exiguous effect, when you say that “The dollar has been taken off the Gold Standard and is not backed by anything since President Nixon made the U.S. Dollar Fiat Currency. ”
While that is true, how has obama fixed or helped that? Why is the economy so bad right now? Why are full time jobs so much harder to find? Who is the president right now, bush or obama? Can you even answer that honestly?
Your last remark should be the other way around…let me change it for accuracy. . The democrats OPENLY Support Big Money and Corporations which helped to cause this. Its actually very simple. The republicans are almost or just as bad and the only reason to vote for a republican is because the democrats are that much worse.
Did you ever bother to research Rahm Emannuel? No right? Of course not, because you can’t be bothered to address points that don’t like up with your solipsist bullshit. Pathos on you, little boy.
“I never accused all the members of the readers here. Some debate and make valid points while a segment makes broad generalizations about Liberals or Race also insulting you I might add. Making sweeping statements about Latinos and their negative impact as well. I think I can question their ignorance can I not? Life is nuanced and layered and not all Progressives agree with everything in the Democratic Party just as you say that I cannot make generalizations about everyone in the Republican Party.Also on an interesting not why do you make assumptions of my Avatar? What kind of conclusions do you draw from the Avatar? I’m actually curious to see what assumptions you come up with since your earlier assumptions are based on faulty “evidence.””
The fundamental flaw here is making the ASSumption that any race based remarks are from the faithful readership here instead of the troll pretending to pass himself off as faithful ROK reader in order to besmirch the site. That is classic alinsky tactics that conservatives are well familiar with.
If you want to pass yourself off as someone that doesn’t make “broad generalizations” then make the deliberate effort to RESPECT that we disagree with you and we are not brainwashed for doing so, even if you think we are actually wrong. You don’t do liberals or progs any service by basically fulfilling our negative perceptions of them, your entire presence here is proof of that. You don’t know what a fact is, you think your words or the words of opinion pieces are “proof” which speaks of a very real mental disorder operating within your mind, in that you can’t perceive reality for anything beyond what you mind requires it to be.
Finally, your avatar includes a Lion, which is what Black militants tend to use as a symbol of their movement. It’s also connected t the rastafari movement, so the lion has definite connections to Blacks especially Black militants.
I’m STILL waiting for you to state that i am wrong to consider you a black militant, btw.
First of all Daniel Ramos all insults aside you REALLY think Bush is smarter than Obama you can swallow your pride and be honest I wont insult you actually. But to come here and LIE lol I have no words for you.
You keep saying “Bromantically” in love with lol, but yet I stand to the left of Obama economically and just voted for him cause he was not terrible like Romney.
You then stated: ” A president that has at least a basic respect for the constitution is smarter as a president than one that does not. The one you “bromantically” are in love with doesn’t have enough presidential IQ to wipe his ass unassisted.”
Who are you to say that the President doesn’t have “respect” for the Constitution? You are mimicking ignorant Right Wing talking points again. Obama is a PROFESSOR on Constitutional LAW, you idiot!! lol What’s next you are going to say Obama is an “Apologist” for actually stating a more realistic and accurate portrayal of American History or do you want your BULLSHIT wrapped in an American Flag. Whats next you are going to say Obama is a “Foreign-Born Muslim” too?! This is pure comedy for me.
What you provided WASN’T fact, it was opinion reinforced by the opinion pieces of others in most cited cases.
As i keep telling you, i actually don’t care much for Giuliani but i’m not going to let you piss down my back and call it rain by saying that Dinkins was the NY mayor from heaven when I WAS THERE and i see strong evidence to the contrary. This is yet something else you haven’t answered myself or the other person that responded to you. We are both still waiting for you to tell us if you are even from NY or you were there during the time in question. What’s the holdup junior? It’s either a yes or no lol.
What’s ironic is that you use the word ironic without knowing how to use it properly lol. I barely made sense of your remark about victims being considered hateful….but if i interpreted that correctly maybe you should go ask the “victim” Tawana Brawley to see what she has to say about that lol. I was there for that little sharpton led fiasco as well, junior.
“I also noticed some Blacks and some Latinos seem to turn a blind eye towards whites talking bad about their people, but yet jump at the chance to rebuff one of their own standing up form themselves”
What blind eye have i turned? If you are referring to the guy by the name of “legally speaking” i already corrected him in his racially based remark. I’m not going to agree with someone who disagrees with my adversary if they use racially questionable language, so your remark there like with much of everything else is pure bs.
Go and see for yourself and then come back with an apology, if you are even capable of feeling something like humility.
You want to talk about Larry Elder being a tool of racist whites? What about the NAACP being affiliated with a party that refused to give Blacks their freedom? Or refused to let go of the institution of slavery?
Which party broke off from which because of disagreements over slavery? It wasnt the democrats!
Stephen A Douglas a DEMOCRAT, proposed the Kansas-Nebraska act as a means of circumventing the missouri compromise against further spread of slavery conditions in the south.
http://www.history.com/topics/kansas-nebraska-act
Which party has the majority of known KKK associates or affiliates? Not the republicans!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics
Which party helped establish what we currently know as the KKK? It wasnt the republicans!
“The Klu Klux Klan, formed in 1867 by a group of Tennesseans including confederate general Nathan Bedford Forest, was an important part of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S campaign to wrest political and social control…”
https://books.google.com/books?id=OTMjAQAAIAAJ&q=KKK+Was+started+as+a+military+extension+for+the+democrats&dq=KKK+Was+started+as+a+military+extension+for+the+democrats&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAmoVChMI0b7j8ZKGxgIVSGitCh27wwCQ
Which party actually helped push for the civil rights act? (i’m going to let you answer this one lol)
These any MANY MORE examples further paint you as an ignoramus who knows next to nothing about the history of racism and it’s inexorable ties to the democrat party. You consider Elder a sellout when he in fact is with the right party (pun intended) and you are not, especially given the racial legacy that you conveniently give them a pass on. Simply pathetic.
“Again you should study the definition of what a “Troll” is idiot, and scum like yourself you should look in the mirror to see what it is made of. I laugh at your little emotional responses”
You aren’t qualified to tell me what color the sun is, because you have proven yourself reliably ignorant and stupid with regard to nearly everything you have said here. Nothing i have said has been emotional, but your earlier bromantic love for obama and every other Black D qualifies you as another emo instinctual hamster mind too far up on the high from the narcotic of your ignorance to see things clearly.
You pollute this site with your bs and your comments deserve to be flagged as a result.
There is no emotion to speak of sir, unlike with you and your very obvious bromantic affinity for your false god obama and every other D affiliated Black person 😀
I’m going to keep this short to respond to key parts of your response just to clarify and to keep it very simple…
You wrote”
“No it doesn’t. A Black militant would use anyone even White people to promote Black liberation theology. Your specious argument there is therefore nullified. You still haven’t told me what race you are which leads me to think i am correct to identify you as such, you just refuse to give me the credit ;)”
Just like Conservatives would use minority Republicans to promote their ignorant views. Even when that minority on tv probably does not believe some of the ignorance they are paid to spew. Also if you were smart you would have already known my background as I have stated it before through my writings but your analytic skills are not as strong as you think they are. Anyway that’s besides the point…
“The fundamental flaw here is making the ASSumption that any race based remarks are from the faithful readership here instead of the troll pretending to pass himself off as faithful ROK reader in order to besmirch the site. That is classic alinsky tactics that conservatives are well familiar with.”
What makes you think I’m trying to “pass myself off” I read some articles on ROK because certain writers produce articles I’m genuinely interested in. Did it ever occur to you that….I actually agree with some points on some articles on this site? Did it ever occur to you that you can’t put all people and a particular belief as falling into a specific Box? Also if I see an ignorant article criticizing a group of people based on their RACE or BELIEFS using generalities and incomplete truth, that a person such as myself will respond to provide a counter argument or should everyone agree with every article 100% If an article write about all Latinos (which includes you as well Mr. Ramos) and paints your entire group in a negative ignorant light, what will YOUR response be? And if you counter that article with valid points and facts what will you say to me if I called you a “TROLL” lol. How about if you are debating and I use your background against you, what will your response be then. I’m curious to see your response on this specific regard. Have you not noticed when people make negative ignorant articles or comments about Jews, Muslims, Indians, East Asians, Europeans…those respective groups defend themselves and provide their own arguments, facts, and figures as well..would they then be “trolls” or actively passing themselves off to besmirch this site…which you defend with all your might, should I say you have a “Bromance” with ROK? lol Is is fair to also say those groups may agree on other issues unrelated to the aforementioned types of articles?
Try to ponder that…although critical thinking might not be your strongest suit.
Also yes PEOPLE work for CORPORATIONS…but CORPORATIONS are not living breathing PEOPLE. Can you comprehend that? Companies don’t usually make choices real living breathing people make..Companies for the most part exist for one thing to make MONEY!! And usually people while trying to make money live for more than JUST money. And there are many examples representing what I wrote.
Also you say “evil rich” like if I have a simple mind like yourself…I dont think that way Ramos. Again like i have written before I think you should be rewarded for your work…but growing income Inequality and the growing National Deficit with Corrupt Banks who influence politics are impacting life for the average citizen…THAT is the issue. Don’t simplify the issues here, I won’t let you get away with that with me.
As for the Lion at least now I know you know something..you are correct on some things but there is more to that. I am not a racist and I DON’T put Whites down, unless an individual puts me down first. The Lion represents many things to many people, some reflect Jesus as a Lamb others as a Lion for example. When it comes to religious or spiritual movements many people are also quite peaceful in their view on life and actually don’t wish harm on others unless they themselves are harmed. Many also seek to educate themselves and their people and families, and speak against corruption. Corruption and elements that seek to put you down can be different things to different people, even Whites can take up the symbol depending on their individual viewpoints.
lets keep it simple shall we? Did I not mention some Republicans white and black which I respect? I don’t respect Whites or minorities who spew ignorance and half-truths on behalf of Republicans.
They “purchase” it with their likes, which is an experience someone as benighted as yourself has yet to experience and will likely never experience it, given the nonsense you are trolling this site with 🙂
Your point about the cops was used to somehow state that Giuliani was responsible for them posting racial slurs, which is simply ridiculous and no more than slander on your part. That was my issue with it. I said before that there are bad cops along with good cops but that was not the issue here, the issue was with you demonizing Giuliani while giving a convenient excuse to Dinkins. You got called out on it by me and others and you will continue to get called out on it as long as you bs us on here with that solipsist belief.
For your 411 i’ve already been called a derogatory term by NYC cops, it didn’t make me think they were ALL like that. As i keep saying, there are good cops and bad cops. Your mention of this is no more than an appeal to emotion which is again, a fundamental tool of the intellectually inadequate left.
Someone who has trouble expressing their disorganized mind coherently should not be someone to offer to post anything in order for me to “comprehend.” You are as legitimate a thinker as Bruce Jenner is a Woman 😀
For the RECORD i didn’t bring up Giuliani, was agreeing with someone else who did. Did that slip by the astuteness of your radar? How surprising! lol Shall i repost it for the benefit of your pedestrian understanding?
Ahh i see…so you take issue with me calling NY a “liberal hellhole” and this is why you decided to respond, using the Giuliani pretext. Is that correct?
Well friend, let me correct myself. NY isn’t a liberal hellhole, it exists in the 9th circle of hell with most of its denizens finding solidarity with each of the iniquities found there.
Does that make it any better? 🙂
The argument of the Democrats and the KKK is also another Republican Talking point. Keeping it short and very simple..there is something called Political REALIGNMENTS look it up. Parties do not hold the same views throughout the generations. A Abraham Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt Republican is not the same as a George Bush Republican neither. That argument has been countered so many times it has gotten boring. Most of the open racists went to the Republican Party. This is a childish talking point.
You seem to lack mental faculty don’t ya Ramos…you simplify my comments to make a point…I was criticizing those officers justly by pointing out their racist view points manifested in their actions against their Mayor I also stated that it paints even the good cops in a bad light for most people when they witness such things.
Now what is your response when you have an article spreading misinformation and ignorance against Latinos people what will you respond with then? This is an honest question.
As for your “likes” comment I think its idiotic to bring that up because in a site like this you will obviously receive more “likes” because it is a site for a specific group of people. Your “likes” will better represent you if we had this discussion in an open forum with people of many different viewpoints, politics, and beliefs. Then you can bring that up. You can basically even talk bad about yourself as a Latino and shame yourself for example and still get more “likes” than me lol. You can say something like “Latinos are ignorant and savage and even the white Latinos skew the White American statistics in a negative light” and you will register more “likes” than me. Doesn’t make you right. In fact I still receive “likes” even in a site like this one which skews more Right politically and my “likes” will “weigh” more than yours. But that point will go over your head, and honestly its the more complete TRUTH and FACT that is important anyway. Not “likes” in a website where you share more of an ideology with.
I already answered this junior, i’m not going to do so again because it will give you another excuse to ignore my debunking of each of your corresponding remarks.
You stand to the left of obama? Wow. That is like saying someone is more evil than satan…congrats! That is truly an achievement. You deserve the George Bernard Shaw award for outstanding progressivism in the sight of all intellectual adversity 😀
Who am i to say that the president doesn’t have respect for the Constitution? I’m an AMERICAN, that makes me qualified to criticize the unconstitutional pretend American president.
Here is proof junior: Obama refused to continue enforcing DOMA even though it was passed through constitutional means.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-administration-will-no-longer-defend-doma/
I could go on but this was the easiest to find lol.
And please, engaging in histrionics by stating that obama is a “professor on constitutional law” is meaningless, despite your bromantic beliefs to the contrary. David Koresh knew the bible but he wasn’t a real Christian, obama being a professor of constitutional law means NOTHING because he only exists to subvert it. Calling me an “idiot” doesn’t change that, much as your mangina self thinks otherwise.
And since you brought it up, yes i believe he is an apologist and a foreign born muslim.
How is that any more ridiculous than the absurd bs you’ve been using to wipe his ass of accountability with?
Lol go sit and spin junior. Nobody here is fooled by your nonsense. We all see you for the obamazombie troll that you are.
Yes you are an American however your assessments are inaccurate…and reflect your hatred for Obama and everything on the left. Obama could save your life and you would get mad. Actually you are an idiot and a pussy who sounds like you got punked when you lived in New York. Maybe you will leave in the country with bubba suit yourself. A herb who joined the marine corp but is a mindless drone with no character, how many New Yorkers screwed your girlfriends in the past? Go cry to momma little man, I know your type. LOL The fact is that Obama whether you agree or disagree with the man follows the constitution closely and has a team of lawyers that he checks with to make sure he does not undermine the constitution his Universal Healthcare initiative was approved at the highest court of law the Supreme Court for example. As a matter of fact there have been other President who have actually been terrible and have actually subverted the Constitution and have operated on true racism.
The funny thing is that the comment of Obama being a foreign born Muslim are actually believed by a section of a cohort. I see it every single day on right wing websites which only seems to justify the perception that Republicans are big morons like yourself.
“Just like Conservatives would use minority Republicans to promote their ignorant views. Even when that minority on tv probably does not believe some of the ignorance they are paid to spew. Also if you were smart you would have already known my background as I have stated it before through my writings but your analytic skills are not as strong as you think they are. Anyway that’s besides the point…”
Bla bla bla red herring remark. Again, no proof to speak of just more bs passed off as fact. Why can’t you answer me on the issue of your race? I answered your questions yet you cant do the same for mine? Coward!
“What makes you think I’m trying to “pass myself off” I read some articles on ROK because certain writers produce articles I’m genuinely interested in. Did it ever occur to you that….I actually agree with some points on some articles on this site? Did it ever occur to you that you can’t put all people and a particular belief as falling into a specific Box? Also if I see an ignorant article criticizing a group of people based on their RACE or BELIEFS using generalities and incomplete truth, that a person such as myself will respond to provide a counter argument or should everyone agree with every article 100% If an article write about all Latinos (which includes you as well Mr. Ramos) and paints your entire group in a negative ignorant light, what will YOUR response be? And if you counter that article with valid points and facts what will you say to me if I called you a “TROLL” lol. How about if you are debating and I use your background against you, what will your response be then. I’m curious to see your response on this specific regard. Have you not noticed when people make negative ignorant articles or comments about Jews, Muslims, Indians, East Asians, Europeans…those respective groups defend themselves and provide their own arguments, facts, and figures as well..would they then be “trolls” or actively passing themselves off to besmirch this site…which you defend with all your might, should I say you have a “Bromance” with ROK? lol Is is fair to also say those groups may agree on other issues unrelated to the aforementioned types of articles? Try to ponder that…although critical thinking might not be your strongest suit.”
Yeah it did occur to me, which is why i told you earlier to take from this site what you can and get lost, since it’s obvious what you agree with is in the minority.
Your next comment is further idiocy, Roosh didn’t write any article about Giuliani or cops, that was from a remark that someone else wrote that i agreed with, so your remark there is once again bs. You just wanted to express your solipsist disagreement with those on the site using nothing more sophisticated than sophistry, and in that context you definitely succeeded 🙂
Tell you what, when an article on here attacks latinos in a derogatory fashion your bs will have far more of a foundation for you to stand on, until then kindly stfu and spare us from your chronic stercoraceous expectoration, por favor.
You can call me a troll just as you can call me a nasgul for all i care, nothing you say has an ounce of truth or sanity in it, it’s just pure bs that you inhale deeply. You are a queefe who doesn’t know when to quit when he’s behind 😀
How can you state with all seriousness, whether you should use race to attack me, when race is what you opened with in regard to your attacks on Giuliani? Did you already forget your remarks about Staten Island and how Giuliani is in essence a racist? Am i wrong on that? Prove it. Tell me you don’t believe Giuliani is a racist and i will take this back, otherwise it’s yet more bs you are trolling this site with.
“Bromance” with ROK? lol”
You went full metal retard with that comment junior. What you consider a “bromance” with ROK is what we consider a loyalty and affiliation. You just exposed what your true intentions are in coming here, so in that respect i salute you!
You wouldn’t know critical thinking if you looked it up in the dictionary, so please go find someone else to define it for you, since i’m beginning to think you have trouble reading beyond a 3rd grade level as well;)
“Also yes PEOPLE work for CORPORATIONS…but CORPORATIONS are not living breathing PEOPLE. Can you comprehend that? Companies don’t usually make choices real living breathing people make..Companies for the most part exist for one thing to make MONEY!! And usually people while trying to make money live for more than JUST money. And there are many examples representing what I wrote.”
No..WRONG. Corporations CONSIST of people, which means they don’t get their rights denied because of that. Your “examples” are likely nothing more than leftist bs that you will try to pass off as fact, but please by all means do so, so i may have yet another reason to thoroughly ridicule you.
You sound like a typical occutard here, which i can add to your list of extensive intellectual war crimes 🙂 Whatever motivation the rich have for making their money, no matter how much of it they seek to make, is not your damn concern. As long as they do it legally, you should myob and stop hating on them for doing so. You come across as a butthurt sour grapes occutard with this remark, really.
“Also you say “evil rich” like if I have a simple mind like yourself…I dont think that way Ramos. Again like i have written before I think you should be rewarded for your work…but growing income Inequality and the growing National Deficit with Corrupt Banks who influence politics are impacting life for the average citizen…THAT is the issue. Don’t simplify the issues here, I won’t let you get away with that with me.”
lol whatever dude. Call me whatever you want, none of it is accurate because it’s coming from a limited mind with an even more limited knowledgebase. The government is not tasked with trying to make the economy equal because that is inherently communist. Are you a communist mr third eye blind? I’m betting you are. Do you have the balls to admit it?
You won’t let me get away with what exactly? Calling you out on your bs? Good luck with that, you need all you can get because you have been drowning in the attempt thus far.
“As for the Lion at least now I know you know something..you are correct on some things but there is more to that. I am not a racist and I DON’T put Whites down, unless an individual puts me down first. The Lion represents many things to many people, some reflect Jesus as a Lamb others as a Lion for example. When it comes to religious or spiritual movements many people are also quite peaceful in their view on life and actually don’t wish harm on others unless they themselves are harmed. Many also seek to educate themselves and their people and families, and speak against corruption. Corruption and elements that seek to put you down can be different things to different people, even Whites can take up the symbol depending on their individual viewpoints.”
Nice soapbox spiel there, now will you PLEASE kindly answer me…are you Black or not? What is the hold up? Why are you afraid or ashamed to admit what you are? is it because you know what i will say next? That i will be right in considering you a Black militant?
…taptaptap…
If memory serves correct you listed Lincoln, Eisenhower Roosevelt and one other.
Ok you have more than just a romantic affinity for the letter D, you have one for republicans who are RINOs and progressives as well, with the exception of Eisenhower and Lincoln, two people who had a hand in helping Blacks obtain their rights, coincidentally enough.
That better?
If its so childish why can’t you back it up with some reference points that don’t originate from someone else’s biased opinion? Why am i (once again) seeing nothing more than your words being passed off as fact?
Why is it that i respond to nearly all of your remarks but you cherrypick mine with half assed responses?
Why haven’t you still admitted what race you are?
So many questions, will i ever get them answered?
I simplify nothing regarding your comments, i merely respond to the simple mind that issues them.
You used that thinking to try and attack Giuliani with and paint him as a racist, which is what your side does to anyone who doesn’t tow the party line. Since you seem to be backpedalling here i will back off from it, unless of course you want to double down on that bs now.
“Now what is your response when you have an article spreading misinformation and ignorance against Latinos people what will you respond with then?”
I already answered that junior, i already said i would address it as i did that other fellow that used a racially based remark in his response to you.
STILL waiting for you to tell me what race you are….(looks at watch)
“your assessments are inaccurate”
Oh Lord, this should be good.
You called me a herb? LMAO I haven’t heard that one in years…thanks for the nostalgia 🙂
Well since it seems i struck a nerve with you, are you going to call me a racist next, just as you implied/did with Giuliani? Or is the fact that im not “pure” white too much of a technicality for even your profound partisan hackery to try and bs with?
I apologize if i hurt your feelings by the way…your remarks here seem especially vicious which i can only attribute to great anger and fear. I’m sorry if i seem like i am picking on you. I will go easy on you…if you want me to 🙂
“The fact is that Obama whether you agree or disagree with the man follows the constitution closely and has a team of lawyers that he checks with to make sure he does not undermine the constitution his Universal Healthcare initiative was approved at the highest court of law the Supreme Court for example. As a matter of fact there have been other President who have actually been terrible and have actually subverted the Constitution and have operated on true racism.”
Ahh…the “fact” is that your words are fact even though you use NOTHING to reinforce them with anything resembling fact. Obama is a constitutional follower because you say he is. Typical ipse dixit remark. “I believe what i say to be fact and nothing you say can change that.”
I’m going to pray for you buddy, because you obviously need it. All i ask is that you tell me what race you are so i can address it to “Black” Jesus for you, so as not to offend you by giving the impression that i would pray to non Black Jesus:)
“his Universal Healthcare initiative was approved at the highest court of law the Supreme Court for example.”
By 1 ONE turncoat judge who essentially found that Americans are the property of government and can therefore be forced to get health insurance by the government. Way to state the specious, junior. By the way, was SCOTUS right for upholding slavery in Dredd and segregation in Plessy? After all, you seem to think they are right in what they declare, right?
Where exactly does the constitution make that an enumerated power of the FED again? Can you find it for me please? 🙂
“As a matter of fact there have been other President who have actually been terrible and have actually subverted the Constitution and have operated on true racism.”
Woodrow Wilson maybe? Sorry, he was a democrat. Epic fail, son 🙂
“The funny thing is that the comment of Obama being a foreign born Muslim are actually believed by a section of a cohort. I see it every single day on right wing websites which only seems to justify the perception that Republicans are big morons like yourself.”
What exactly is a “section of a cohort” sir? Can you translate that from retardese into legitimate english, please?
“The funny thing is that the comment of Obama being a foreign born Muslim are actually believed by a section of a cohort. I see it every single day on right wing websites which only seems to justify the perception that Republicans are big morons like yourself.”
Ok buddy, put your money where your moronic mouth is. Show me the birth certificate. Should be easy, right?
While you’re at it, please please please for the umpteenth time, tell me what race you are. I called you a Black militant before so if you are not one please let me know so i can address it, unless of course you have a reason for not sharing that little piece of information
🙂
Take the red pill on race, my friend.
LOL I’m actually laughing at your ignorance. I don’t care how people make make their money as long as its justly and legal and it doesn’t impact society which we all live. When Banks, Wall Street, and Corporations find loopholes and help cause Recessions and Depressions yes that makes it my business and It will be everyone’s business. It’s actually very very simple. No one wants to “punish” the rich its just applying the same rules that you would a poor criminal. Its very simple.
Communism has not proved successful and i’m obviously not a communist, however I also not one who blindly looks away when negative elements of Big Business undermines our nation neither. Its all very simple. I am from a strong economically sound culture with little representation in Welfare which many here like to demonize minorities as abusing. I also counter the long white-washed history that some here like to defend, and realization that we are all African in origin. Honestly I don’t care if you consider me a “Black Militant” whatever that means to you…I am for truth and FACT and a more complete honest dialogue.
The essential parts of the Occupy Movement made a lot of sense and were far more impressive than the ignorant fueled and Corporate Backed Tea Party hypocritically masquerading as a “Grass Roots” movement.
You don’t know what the red pill is if you think that race plays a factor in intelligence.
Not really remember Political Realignments…Democrats at one period I would not have supported.
Not really oppose him because of Race, but some people actually do. Obviously the matter is ideas and perspectives, me pointing out the fact that OTHERS have used race against someone they disagree with does not make me racist for pointing it out. For example the drunk racist cops (racially charged example) or Conservative Media painting an incomplete picture of Giuliani (False Narrative).
“LOL I’m actually laughing at your ignorance. I don’t care how people make make their money as long as its justly and legal and it doesn’t impact society which we all live. When Banks, Wall Street, and Corporations find loopholes and help cause Recessions and Depressions yes that makes it my business and It will be everyone’s business. It’s actually very very simple. No one wants to “punish” the rich its just applying the same rules that you would a poor criminal. Its very simple.”
Really? What’s the sound of one idiot laughing with no one around to hear it? Can you describe it for me?
If you really want to go after crooks, go after the ones on capitol hill. They tend to influence the private sector a lot more than the opposite is true, George Soros notwithstanding.
You keep using the word “ignorance”…i’ll let my friend from the princess bride answer that one:
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Although technically his response could be used for any instance when you use a word inappropriately 😀
“Communism has not proved successful and i’m obviously not a communist, however I also not one who blindly looks away when negative elements of Big Business undermines our nation neither. Its all very simple. I am from a strong economically sound culture with little representation in Welfare which many here like to demonize minorities as abusing. I also counter the long white-washed history that some here like to defend, and realization that we are all African in origin. Honestly I don’t care if you consider me a “Black Militant” whatever that means to you…I am for truth and FACT and a more complete honest dialogue.”
No one demonizes minorities for abusing welfare, we attack those who abuse it which includes minorities. Big difference.
You are so truthful and factual and honest you can’t even admit what race you are because it would prove me right that you are a Black militant…as long as you keep posting i am going to keep asking, and as long as you keep denying i am going to keep responding and therefore nullifying your bs.
“The essential parts of the Occupy Movement made a lot of sense and were far more impressive than the ignorant fueled and Corporate Backed Tea Party hypocritically masquerading as a “Grass Roots” movement.”
Yes of course, they made sense to another leftist prick who thinks that the government should rob from the rich to give to the poor like some kind of progressive robin hood. Where’s the proof that the tea party was backed by corporations? Or did you provide the “fact” simply by stating it?
I hope you got time junior because i am relentless…i will be here all night and day responding to your bs. I’m like a SCUD for bs 🙂
Bla bla bla. cough cough Robert Byrd KKK member, or Harry Reid’s remark on the “negro dialect” of obama cough cough lol.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/09/obama.reid/
No problem Its a word I miss its a simple and good word lol
This comment was addressed to someone else. Did you take that into consideration?
No, what makes your comments potentially racist is the FACT that you try to make politicians that you hate/dislike into racists, using extremely embellished remarks to try and pass them off as facts.
Drunk racists cops don’t prove Giuliani was a racist and painting conservative media as racist leads me to think you think that conservatives in general are racists.
My being Latino must really irk you, because if i was “pure” White you could just blow me off as another racist white, right?
Btw, STILL Waiting for you to admit what you race is, so i can confirm that you are indeed a Black militant.
That all you got? What’s the matter…getting fatigued?
😀
Not really slightly bored plus have tons of writing to do.
I’m still here junior 😀
Thought about confessing as to what race you are yet? So i can be proven right that you are a Black militant?
Btw what are you writing? More bs to troll conservative sites with?
Well, since it’s been almost a half hour with no peep from you i will just go focus on some other tasks that i have been neglecting in favor of attending to your nonsense.
Feel free to respond while i am gone…the only way you can ever win in a debate against me is by me not being present for it 😀
Au demain!
Yes there are racists in the Democratic Party as well, however the Republicans have a large ignorant section of people, who are also racist. I cannot advocate for that party and only respect some individuals in that party.
lol i tricked you! I’m still here:)
Large section of racists in the GOP? Can i get something from you to back that solipsism up, or are you going to bs here as well?
“tricked me” what are you 5?! lol come on man. What borough are you from? lol
Tell yourself that so you can sleep at night.
I don’t argue with fools, because I met get confused with you.
Actually, having to deal with L.S., the truth is, he’s just trolling. He’s got no interest in actual debate, discussing things such as ‘facts’, and so forth. All he wants is a rise out of people, and he’s willing to go anywhere and say anything to do it. I suggest putting him on your killfile. You’ll be happier. 🙂
If you don’t have a killfile program – there’s some good ones for Chrome and FireFox. Use it, and you’ll never see a post from the person you flag ever again. 🙂
lol.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/
read this for 3 months and then come talk to me.
No i’m not underage, that would actually be you.
I was from Queens. (see how i answer your questions? Try doing the same)
“I don’t argue with fools, because I met get confused with you.”
You don’t argue with fools, you’re just a foolish troll who argues.
No need to thank me for correcting you, Mr (Black) militant.
I perused it. I don’t see anything that provides an undeniable evidence for the belief that intelligence is affected by race, which is what i am in disagreement with you about.
One could say that crown heights wouldn’t have happened under X or Y and one could also say 911wouldn’t have happened under X or Y. Different variables may be in place under X or Y in different circumstances.
We left the bronx in the late 90’s during the peak of the gang wars which would have happened under ANY mayor because of the surge that spread out east. The time it takes to flush that out of the system, imho, can’t be done just on one term alone and the continued efforts can’t be credited to 1 of the two terms or even to a mayor alone.
Personally i don’t like the major regentrification that happened especially to those who’ve been nothing more than cogs in that machine who’ve helped keep it afloat over the decades.
That being said i will say under his rule there had been major police brutalities and the change from capturing or shooting a subject in non-lethal parts had shifted to straight killing which turned into a national norm.
“That being said i will say under his rule there had been major police brutalities and the change from capturing or shooting a subject in non-lethal parts had shifted to straight killing which turned into a national norm.”
I respect your feelings on the matter, but to state or otherwise imply that Giuliani is for “straight killing” in order to make mention that it “has turned into a national norm” is something i fundamentally disagree with, especially given that there is no definitive proof of it. Conjecture alone is not proof.
I can also mention that Dinkins for his part had racial circumstances of his own to deal with, as he was largely perceived to be soft on crime and even acquiescing in some instances. His support for a drug dealer as mayor as well as his later arrest in regard to an issue involving a black person is proof of that, making my comments more than just opinion, but opinion with some bite in it.
Now of course i will not go so far as to use that to state that Dinkins is for crime or imply he is a racist, i’m just making mention of it to show you (besides disagreeing of course) that it’s best to stop at the point of offering objective statements in order to keep from then pushing for a personal belief that has no real undeniable evidence in it. I agreed with everything up until the remark i quoted from you.
rofl. then you didn’t read it.
I guess you’re just one of those people who can’t be taught. too bad. you can go back to “reasoning” with black trolls instead of mocking the little savages mercilessly till they run home to their down-lo boyfriends.
Well then, post the specific reference you are alluding to here.
Guys like you troll this site to make us look like racists. You aren’t fooling anyone, buddy.
Actually Queens is my second favorite borough. If I ever move back to New York City Ill probably consider Queens
Good for you. Go have a cookie.
Take the red pill on race:
http://www.unz.com/isteve/
Telling the truth about blacks is not trolling.
i agree to disagree.
Btw, it looks like you posted the same thing. Still don’t see it.
nope. you’re just wrong. but have fun trying to make savages into humans.
and you’re not reading enough sailer if you don’t get it.
I responded maturely as you stated earlier. And I had a Fig Newton its actually pretty good! lol
Fight the Power!! hahaha
Whatever dude. Believe what you want. You just can’t prove it in doing so.
If this is your version of an olive branch then i accept.
lol. the performance of blacks on IQ tests and in intellectual pursuits; the paucity of their cultures; their violent and criminal nature in contrast to civilized people; and their anti-social behavior all belie your cheap convenient rationalizations.
stop lying to yourself. take the red pill.
That doesn’t mean it’s because of race, it is likely is the result of sociological factors such as poor parenting, subpar education, etc especially where a strong democrat presence can be perceived in local government.
To say it’s definitively due to race is a vast embellishment of facts and a stretch of all intellectual credibility.
Your kind of remarks would have been favored by hitler back in his day. No true scientists adheres to them.
You have to know the red pill before you can prescribe it to someone else. Since you are trolling me you are only giving me justification to believe you are a leftist troll trying to make the site look bad, especially since a red pill Man would simply agree to disagree in his discourse.
In layman’s terms, i’m kindly asking you to fuck off with that racial shit, thanks.
You’re making excuses and rationalizations after hundreds of years of observation and more than 50 years of social intervention designed to “correct” the problems that alternative explanations dictated.
And yet blacks still fail.
If you are unwilling to accept that the hypothesis of racial differences might be true at all, then you are close minded and have a religious intolerance for the truth.
Don’t try to debate the bitch legallyspeaking. This dummy has never picked a book in his life. The best he can do is this trolling crap. There is some great reading for you Mr. Ramos. There are a number of black countries, Botswana, Namibia, Barbados, Bahamas, and a few others with higher living standards than white countries like Ukraine, Macedonia, Moldova, Serbia, etc.
The dummy LegallySpeaking believes in the immutability of IQ yet IQ has been shown by actual scientists, Neuroscientists and not the faux scientists psychologists to be highly malleable in children. This adoption study shows that black children adopted by wealthy white children had/have IQs of 106. http://www.kjplanet.com/amp-31-10-726.pdf
Legallyspeaking is just an idiot troll.
Again, that can be attributed to other factors beyond race and ethnicity. Until you can provide legitimate evidence substantiating your remarks, they remain as nothing more convincing than Christopher Meiner’s racially influenced work.
Observation alone does not imply fact. Correlation is not causation.
The only bias i see here is with you. You seem intent on trying to force your belief on me irrespective of any actual undeniable evidence to support it. Your views are NOT undeniable and because of your insistence that they are, they are not red pill either.
A blue pill mind tries to force its solipsist view on others regardless of any actual facts.
Read up on the red pill before you prescribe it, oaf.
Indeed. He believes the garbage of racial pseudoscientists like Christopher Meiners, who tried to argue that blacks were “ugly” and intellectually substandard and therefore inferior, for instance.
Centuries later Hitler used this same pseudoscience to try and argue for eugenics and with specific regard to Jews and Blacks. It could be argued that he hated Blacks just as much as he did with Jews, given that he felt they were being used as a racial weapon against pure aryans by the Jewism presence in Germany and influences abroad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Meiners
Except that race/ethnicity are the Occam’s razor explanation. And is reinforced by all facts extant.
What is more, the hypothesis that it is race/ethnicity has been accepted as reality for thousands of years—only to be pushed aside in the last 50 or so (really 100) by communists eager to push it aside to acheive their own goals, not because they honestly disbelieved it.
And we must remember that those who came up with these simple, true explanations were people who were a lot closer to breeding non-humans—these were farmers and people invested in farming in pre-industrial worlds, and even the city-dweller knew on site the difference between various kinds of hens and horses—and that their temperament and strengths varied, even among sub-species.
Take the red pill.
“Correlation is not causation.”
And trying to come up with convoluted, invisible racism theories to get around what is easily explained by racial/ethnic genetic difference is foolishness.
With every single lefty platitude about race you repeat, you deliberately lead yourself and others down a wayward path of lies. Lies designed to hurt you.
Don’t repeat the propaganda.
A hypothesis is no more fact than your words are. Until it can be undeniably proven through the scientific method, the racial methodologies of people like Meiner and others remains questionable at best, criminally duplicitous at worst.
You need to cite a source other than yourself and some vague website to support your statements.
I’m curious of one thing: given my latino background, one in which a partial Black genealogy can be traced back at least as far as the Black slaves who were forced to breed with the South American natives were concerned, would you therefore consider me intellectually inferior as a result?
“lefty platitude” lol
I am about as “left” as you are accurate, friend.
I still see no undeniable proof of your theory that race is an inhibiting factor on intelligence.
I have a bias for truth, not racially influenced truth aka a racially defined perversion of truth.
You have to understand what truth is before you can define what a lie is for someone else.
You are still mouthing lefty platitudes about race.
You are still on the plantation.
Fight your indoctrination.
Break free.
You keep denying it could even possibly be true; this is because of your programming. Once you admit it could possibly be true, the evidence will mount before your eyes.
Like the earth going round the sun, you can deny the very theory, but once you admit it might be true, suddenly it all falls into place.
Fight your programming, son. The Cosby Show isn’t real; but Baltimore is.
Keep chanting that mantra…maybe you can get it published through a record label 🙂
No, i’ve already researched these theories and found them to be fundamentally lacking.
Intelligent Black Men like Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson, MLK as well as Clarence Thomas prove that there is no true limit for Blacks or anyone else to achieve intellectual redoubtableness.
The cosby show was an accurate representation of the typical middle class Black family until the promulgation of antiblack programming designed to destroy the family unit. BET, for example.
You need to take the red pill dude. Or at least take off the white hood blinding you from seeing it.
rofl. Your denial is breathtaking. You go cherry picking and pretend that’s the norm. But hilarious that you would include a plagiarizing, hypocritical front man like MLK as an “intelligent negro.”
numbers don’t lie. Take the red pill. Your denial only hurts you in the end.
lol. oh you poor deluded soul. You really think you came to all your conclusions about race independent of the propaganda you were fed?
perhaps you aren’t intelligent enough to see. oh well; you’re fun to laugh at.
*giggle*
tell me again how smart black people are while every community they run is a shithole—in America and beyond.
*giggle*
What’s amusing is that your solipsism is so strong it causes you to think that genetics would play favorites with people simply on the basis of race.
Nothing you have provided thus far scientifically supports your pseudoscientific racially misguided view.
Having to keep chirping about me taking the red pill proves you don’t know what it really is. A real Man wouldn’t repeat ad nauseam what has already proven to be redundant (and refutable) before.
Nice try bozo.
Real Men don’t giggle like little girls.
The farce is strong in this one haha
real men follow logic, not sjw propaganda.
but you’re not smart enough to know that, little boy.
*giggle*
Tell me again about all those wonderful black-run places like Zimbabwe, Detroit, South Africa, and Ferguson?
*Giggle*
lol. oh your denial is so giggle-worthy. George Soros and co. truly has programmed you well.
I would say start with The Bell Curve but…anything that contradicts your shallow little programming is “racist” and therefore verboten.
so laughable, so predictably small-minded you are.
*Guffaw*
Detroit and Ferguson (to an extent) are examples of SJ piss poor leadership, State or locally or both, so you didn’t help yourself by including them. If you lived in detroit i doubt you would be any better than the Blacks living there. Point nullified.
As far as areas outside of the US, your remark there is a red herring since they don’t hold to the same exact philosophical standard as we do. Frederic Douglass understood the Constitution long before you were even alive, and he was Black. Once again, your point is nullified. Get lost troll.
Oh please. I’ve studied Soros long before you heard about him from Beck. Don’t presume to lecture me on buzzword terms that you chirp out in the futile attempt to make yourself seem scholarly.
Your sciolism doens’t impress me, and neither does your blue pill attempts to “convert me to the dark side”
Piss off.
rofl. detroit and ferguson are bad because they are majority black. as is every area blacks are the majority.
your points nullified.
face it: blacks are just failures at civilization.
take the red pill. or be a jester.
of course you’ve “studied Soros” longer than I. You don’t sound like a race-programmed lefty wuss at all.
*giggle*
Correlation does not imply causation. Therein lies the fundamental flaw in your belief.
You don’t know what the red pill is, loser.
Yawn…don’t you have anything more useful than mangina giggles and meaingless polemics?
I have more conservatism in my left butt cheek than you do in your whole body, especially if you believe the racial bs that the left tends to represent in their core philosophy lol
laughing at those who deny the reality of the races is greatly amusing.
*giggle*
No, dumb darkie; the phrase is “correlation does not, necessarily, prove causation.”
But dummy…correlation does imply causation.
And, when it happens again and again, and keeps popping up no matter what is done to clamp down on the other hypothesized “causes”….
well, even a negro can see that strengthens causation.
*guffaw*
Laughing is all you can do, because you don’t have the IQ to prove your point otherwise.
No you poor excuse for a sentient organism, i had it correct. Educate thy self.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
You are a pedestrian on the thinking expressway of life. You will remain this way until you put your racial glasses away and exercise some real understanding and not the racial solipsism you’ve convinced yourself is undeniable.
How old are you i wonder? Not more than 20 something i wager. Am i correct?
rofl. you can take the red pill on race…or you can hamsterize for the rest of your existence ad be laughed at.
the choice is yours.
lol. you keep trying to deny the reality of race IQ, and all the continuously mounting evidence, by citing a statistical argument relevant only in singular studies.
but when multiple studies—thousands, actually—over decades show the same correlation…..
it’s no longer relevant.
face it: blacks are low IQ, uncivilized savages.
And you’re a fool for arguing otherwise.
*giggle*
When you take the red pill you will be more qualified to define it for others.
Until then, you do nothing more than blue pill.
The fact that you can’t back up your bs with anything other than klan logic makes you no more familiar with the red pill than gloria steinem.
It’s a shame your racist inclinations sabotage your higher discourse. You have the potential to be an insightful human being (given the other remarks ive read of yours in different threads) but your head is too firmly shoved up your racist ass to see the truth clearly.
I feel sorry for you.
ROFL.
tell me again about all those black-run places that are so wonderful.
*giggle*
rofl.
I love low-IQers like yourself who, when confronted with their own lies to save their hamsters, immediately try to change the subject.
It’s a shame you’ve deliberately made yourself dumb to deny the differences between the races—and the cancer of black people on the civilized people of the world.
but it does make me laugh.
*guffaw*
You still don’t get it do you? Sigh. Short bus rider eh?
Your mention of me having a low IQ is the equivalent of sloth from the goonies calling me an idiot. With all offense intended, you lack the gray matter to understand just how little you actually know, regardless of your solipsism to the contrary.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest male on earth.
rofl. note how you can’t, and you try to pretend that your failure makes you smart.
*giggle*
lol. oh poor low IQ little negro defender. I love the projection; how his denial of facts and reality somehow make him smart and everyone else stupid.
now please, tell us all about these wonderful civilized places where black people run things or are the majority.
*sits back with popcorn, laughs*
The only thing that I’ve failed in is giving you the benefit of the doubt in regards to having a functional IQ.
It’s apparent you don’t and your trolling of me doesn’t change that.
I’m not going to give you any such example because i don’t look through history with color coded glasses in order to find examples to support bullshit racism. I base my views on philosophy, not racial inclination. Whenever people do that bad things tend to happen, as they did in Germany.
It’s so easy for you to talk this way online isn’t it? I seriously doubt you have the balls to say as much in person, for obvious reasons.
Keep up with the keyboard militancy troll….cowards like you can’t do anything more than talk big online.
lol. your projection of your low IQ in this area is showing, little airhead.
race is real, and IQ varies among the races, and blacks are uncivilized failures.
and you are a fool for denying the sky is blue.
*giggle*
rofl. you can’t give examples because they don’t exist.
sub-saharan west africans are barbarous dumb monkeys who can’t form any civilization beyond dung huts and raping their sisters. and your “defenses” of such savagery is laughable.
*chuckles*
And yet you can’t prove as much with some actual facts, just some meaningless words.
😀
And your words here are evidence of a keyboard warrior who likely lacks the balls to say these things online.
Big talk online is like farting “ode to joy” and expecting people to clap.
😀
rofl. oh I love when little race-lefties start denying the existence of:
-every IQ test ever divided by race
-everything about the black v. nonblack crime rate
-the non-existence of any great black civlization
-the failure of blacks to acheive any success in any society they become part of.
your denial is showing, little failure…
and everyone can see it.
*giggle*
lol. I love when silly little negro-apologists try to copy me. It bespeaks the failures of their arguments.
still waiting for one example of a sub-saharan west african civilization beyond a dung hut and raping your sister, little monkey-lover….
oh wait, you can’t. because non exist.
*giggle*
I’m not a “race lefty” I’m a real conservative who understands that race does not have a compelling factor on intelligence.
You however sound like a typical democrat in that you view blacks as less than capable of being intelligent due to intellectual inadequacy.
The republicans broke off from the democrats because of the issue of slavery and views like yours.
Pick up a history book sometime, moron.
Would it surprise you to know there were black people helping to run this country before the first president took office?
Stick with me junior. I’m about to take you on an information superhighway that your pedestrian self has never conceived 🙂
” who understands that race does not have a compelling factor on intelligence.”
Denial ain’t just a river in egypt.
now where are those examples of sub-saharan west African dominated places run so well?
*giggle*
rofl. oh yeas, the country was built on black genius!!!!
please, tell me how the majority of the founders were sub-saharan west africans.
*guffaws*
I never proposed to offer you any examples of a racial utopia, black or otherwise.
Still waiting to your own prove to me that race has a compelling factor in intelligence.
Since you are very likely to be white, you are my best example of just how wrong you are, friend.
😀
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2010/05/31/glenn-beck-founders-friday-african-american-founders.html
Hope your jaw doesn’t hit the ground too hard, you racist prick.
still waiting for that advanced black society….
*giggle*
rofl. you think pc-ness will save your denial?
*chuckles*
Still waiting for you to make an intelligent comment 🙂
Just as i thought…too cowardly to acknowledge Blacks involvement in the Founding of this country. lol
Pitiful.
rofl. “black involvement.” you mean the cotton pickin’ or the getting drunk and getting shot by British soldiers in a riot?
next you’ll probably argue that Washington and Jefferson were black.
the sad attempts by pc-ers to puff up the pitiful black accomplishments in history—and Beck is playing the pc-game there, buy, don’t deny it—only underscores your lack of civilized abilities.
but hey…at least you’re only # 2 on the most-inbred groups in America. #1 is your Jewish masters.
*giggle*
Seriously? Here are a few brief names of these influential Blacks and
their undeniable contributions:
Peter Salem won the battle of bunker Hill with his heroics.
http://www.celebrateboston.com/biography/peter-salem.htm
Jonas Clarke fought in the revolutionary war and helped write the Massachusetts and US Constitution.
https://books.google.com/books?id=5UASAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=jonas+clarke+and+the+constitution&source=bl&ots=CKu-DeX_wb&sig=NkG_Nz6QN6sR7RFWpqd8pIOqL60&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8EucVaOBJsbTsAX60qvgBQ&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=jonas%20clarke%20and%20the%20constitution&f=false
James Armistead probably helped win the war for us by feeding Washington valuable inside intel during his time as a spy.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1963424_1963480_1963442,00.html
Wentworth Cheswell signed enough people listing their grievances with the British that it inspired the Founders to feel confident the Declaration of Independence would be supported by the majority of the people.
He was also out riding the same night as Paul Revere, to pass on information on where reinforcements would be sent.
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/history/wentworth-cheswell-teacher-revolutionary-war-veteran-political-figure
Lemuel Haynes was one of the minutemen
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part2/2p29.html
Benjamin Banneker was a noted scientist who helped revolutionize astronomy with his numerous writings, almanacs, and so forth.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part2/2p84.html
Do i really need to go on? Is your racism so strong that you would use it to ignore the invaluable contributions Blacks have made to the formation of this nation?
Your last remark cements you in ROK history as one of the biggest assholes this side of obama.
Congrats!
Behold a pale horse my brother. We patriots will and must stand the tide soon.0
That and “Fox’s book of martyrs” is an excellent read as well.
lol. oh you negroes and your sad attempts to promote chumps to the equality of washington and jefferson.
your race is a failure.
*giggle*
Btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XgFPo3uDUo
lol. pwned.
You wanted proof and i gave you proof that Blacks have contributed significantly. If you’re too biased to accept it the problem is with you, not them.
“pwned?”
What are you…12? lol
your mom’s 12. lol
rofl. pick some cotton and rape some white women. you’ve lost, boy, go back to blackfrica and ruin your own people there.
*giggle*
“Cultural renaissance”. Boy that word “culture” sure doesn’t mean much in America anymore, huh?
I was only speaking of NY, wiseass. You weren’t there to witness it, so don’t speak to thinks you have little to no knowledge about.
In retrospect, compared to now, I witnessed some fuct up shit as a kid.
The kids these days around here rarely go outside; if they do, they wear helmets. on razor scooters.
I saw some interesting stuff myself. I remember seeing a guy sitting on a metro transit garbage can pretending to be a judge and throwing out trash to random passers by if he found them guilty lol.
Are kids allowed to go home for lunch anymore?
We were, and I remember seeing a drug dealer get stabbed in the belly- he dropped about 100 ft from me and my sister. No idea if he survived.
I made my sis a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch. I do remember that vividly..
dude, did you used to use a pic before? I thought you did.
damn. That’s way worse than my story, and i grew up in South Jamaica.
(bows head)
Jamaica? Glad you got out man…
no, bc I genuinely do NOT want people to know who I am lol
Yeah. by 164th street. I lived near goosepond park.
There was a little bodega down the hill that i used to go play arcade games in, like SF 2.
I’ve been blessed to have been in nothing more serious than your occasional fight, but a few friends of mine didn’t fare as well.
I feel you:)
I want people to see my pic and tremble before my debatorial might lol
Dude you should really move out of NY. A critical thinker like yourself deserves way better.
“I think $150K that Roosh cites is the MINIMUM for a ‘comfortable’ life in the city.”
You could live with 1/2 of that in the outer boroughs. I’ve always liked Astoria/LIC. Plus it’s a 15 minute train to the city.
Fair point. I trend older, age-wise, for guys here and I ‘got over’ long ago, so my concept of ‘comfort’ has risen along with my income. *shrugs*
..
you could not raise a family in the outer boros on 75k a year; I got
outta college right around the time pataki/giuliani relaxed existing
rent laws….they really have tripled/quintupled since 98/99..
Yeah, if you’re looking to raise a family. But I’m talking about a single person living it up in NYC. $75K is plenty.
“men do have it better here than elsewhere in America”
Sky-high taxes, repressive gun laws, gang bangers, graffiti everywhere, terrible weather, big-city pollution, insane rents……..I’m not sure what’s so great about that.
Fair cop.
Meh. Anyone talking about “gang bangers, graffiti everywhere” hasn’t been to NYC in the past 20 years. Taxes are high, but they’re high in NJ and CT so it’s a wash. The rents are sky high because…wait for it…people WANT to live in New York.
“It’s the capital of the known universe”. Yes friends, New Yorkers are this delusional.
You may be struggling with the concept of ‘hyperbole’….NYC is a great place, although it’s not going to be to everyone’s tastes, one supposes…
I loved New York when I lived there and will gladly go back as to me, it was and always will be home. That stank, the attitudes, the thirst for life, the comfort a day off brings, the beautiful women you can meet from all walks of life, plus the cultural hub and realistic feel makes New York, the best city in the world. It is easy to hate the city as an outsider. New Yorkers tend to talk about the city a lot. To be fair, it mainly stems from newcomers and some people who never left the city. All things considered, it has to be, one of the most alive, culturally embracing, cities in America as a whole. Would have loved to have shoot the shit with you while I was in NY, Mistral.
I travel a fair amount for business, and NYC is one place that has resisted (though not always successfully) the “homogenization” that we see across the country. Go to any city–“Oh, look, there’s a Starbucks, a Barnes & Noble (for now)…” etc., etc.
I agree. As of late, post Bloomberg, and with current De Blassio, Brooklyn is becoming a hipster cesspool. Places in Brooklyn that once had no stoplights, have stoplights, crossing islands for those who couldn’t make it across the street, and neighboring pharmacies galore. A few home grown chains are biting the dust. Also they started painting over some of the graffiti murals in the name of street cleaning. Not to mention the spike in rent costs in Brooklyn, since Brooklyn is chic again.
Even with all of that said, Junior’s Cheesecake still rocks and the simple slice of pizza tastes best from New York. Rumor is Connecticut might make comparably good slices but I haven’t traveled there to confirm.
I’m up here in Chicago and to be nice I rarely talk about New York. The reasons are twofold, you can never compete with a man’s first home, and Chicago citizens get so angry if you mention New York and Chicago in aa sentence. The mayor’s slogan for keeping the streets clean is, “I don’t want our streets to look like New York”.
New Haven pizza is awesome, come try some time.
I think I will. Pizza has been one of my favorite American dishes. Chicago pizza is an experience. While the buttered crust is flaky, crunchy yet soft, the smooth merge isn’t there like it is in a New York style slice.
If you can find them at the grocery store, try Uno Pizza. Sometimes it is in the freezer aisle, sometimes its just refrigerated. Pretty damn good Chicago style pizza, even for frozen pizza. As far as CT, come check out Pepe’s or Modern Apizza in New Haven. Solid pizza and plenty of single Harvard women floating around every night.
Dont you have one of the best burger joints in the universe too? What is the name of that place?
I think you’re talking about Louis’ Lunch? I’ve been there once as a young man, hammered. From what I remember, it was a good burger. A ton of wasted college chicks stuffing their faces made me want to puke though.
12 years in Manhattan: Way more single women of datable age than straight men. People are friendly once you talk to them. Most women are not golddiggers by any stretch. Girls will not only look you in the eye on the street/bar, they have no hesitation about eye-fucking you and letting you know they like you and your style.
Walked from 33rd and 7th to 47th and Park because it was nice out. Had about 10 pretty girls check me out, some more in Starbucks [easiest place to get numbers and idates] passed 3 models on the street and 1 famous model who I recognized from Vogue/fashion spreads of EE origin.
It is expensive, but you won’t find hotter, sexier women anywhere else in the world. They dress to the nines and like to party. And the mix of races and styles…if you like Asian girls you can date 2 very hot ones a year with little/no effort if you’re a taller white guy.
You may have to grind at the beginning, but once you know how to work corporate/Wall St, you can get a big raise every 1-2 years by leaving or leveraging.
So, basically everything he said ^^^^^.
Heh, you ever been to Germany? Cross when the don’t walk sign is red and have a laugh at the expression on their faces…
Agreed with most points except that most men do better in NYC plenty of my friends and other men I have spoken with say the opposite but for a higher earning alpha male type that doesn’t mind cold career focused women then NYC is probably the place that suits them well. Men who are not so wealth driven will probably do better in other cities also the single male / female ratio only favors men 40+ in age.
for a higher earning alpha male type that doesn’t mind cold career focused women then NYC is probably the place that suits them well.
Why would such a man have to limit himself to such women, instead of “Sweet Sally”, “Heike the Nanny” or “Tanya the Dancer”? I avoid the ‘career chick’ like the plague.
also the single male / female ratio only favors men 40+ in age.
Only in the view from 10,000 feet. Once you toss out the homos* and the ‘undateables’, single men are back in the driver’s seat.
Mistral
*Ever wonder why fashion models are so skinny? It’s b/c fashion is run by gay guys and ‘ladies of a certain age’ (e.g Isaac Mizrahi and Anna Wintour). If fashion was run by straight men there would be more Booty on Duty and Titty on the Committee, and the girls would have curves and not look like the white version of a “Save the Children!” commercial, minus all the flies.
I think shanghai would be more of a grind. I met a guy from shanghai on the train to chicago, and he as a job where he gets fined $500 for fucking up his paperwork. If that isn’t a stressful life, i don’t know what is.
My limited experience with NYC is that women are guarded. Don’t smile. No eye contact. Money talks, you either have it or you don’t. They qualify you quickly by what you’re wearing and where you live. $250k salary might make you middle class there. Its very much an international gateway city so its good for dating foreign women.
yes….in NYC,fuck all the hot foreign women.
leave the used up locals to mad men.
Mad Men? Advertising executives?
Advertising men like Don Draper. A lot of their offices are on Madison Ave. hence Mad Men.NY has always had a lot of foreign girls and girls from other states and small towns who want to go to the big city for some reason so that is not new.
“The second reason appeals the most to me, but such friendships will
invariably entail late nights out, excessive alcohol use, and chasing
women.”
If none of you have any other interests whatsoever. You do know that NYC is one of the great cultural centers of world, don’t you? Hell, in NY you could find a group of guys who get together to drink tea and knit.
Or play with model trains, or real bikes, or swap cigars, or . . .
Pull your damn head out of the nightclub sand, dude.
Yeah. I guess it’s just a matter of getting older and maybe I’m hamstering my way to trying to feel good about being middle aged. But the expensive 5-6 hour drunken, swaying, shouting over music, focusing on a ‘5’ just to salvage the night, hungover, expensive, boring waste of time of nightclubs is not an option for me anymore. People can do what they want but I don’t understand how a post 35 year old man could want to shitcan 6 hours of his life, spend 50-100$ minimum on toxin and then wake up feeling shitty until 3 pm. The sooner you drop the ‘excitement’ of night clubs, the better. It seems outdated.
Hello everyone. I’ve recently swallowed the red pill and it has been highly beneficial for me. I’ve noticed that Eastern European women are the topics of conversation frequently on these types of websites but have not come across any information on Albanian women. It’s usually Polish, Ukranian, Romanian..etc.. Does anyone know whats up with the Albanian girls? I’ve been trying to get with one for quite some time and my usual techniques aren’t working. Any help would be appreciated.
Be a bad boy, every albanian chick loves bad boys, thats basically what all albanians are.
Be tough. Albanian chicks love tough guys, especially if she’s born there. But, if you somehow get her pregnant you’re fucked. Don’t even try to run away, they’ll find you.
Thanks for the heads up
Have you had any experiences with them?
Albanians are muslim?
They are Albanian and then Orthodox, Muslim or Catholic. They are man characters tho, tread carefully.
From what I’ve gathered religion isn’t important to them. They’re split 50/50 between Muslim and Christian/Orthodox/Catholic. But they seem to have a strong sense of morality (an ancient book of laws some of them still follow) and a traditional, patriarchal society. All seem like good signs.
Different experiences in different cities, of course, but here in Indiana Russian girls are the bomb. They have pre-set ideas that American Men are all manginas and easy financial pickings. So they think they’re playing you while you’re really playing them. Just don’t think about a serious relationship with one, they’re only good for banging. And most of them are hot looking as hell. I did one for a couple of months while stringing her along about signing a bank loan for her. Which didn’t happen, of course. That seems to be a popular scam: They use sex to get an American to co-sign a loan, then they disappear and leave him holding the bag.
Russian women make effort to dress up at night and they don’t eat like men. That’s enough to impress most american males these days.
If those chicks look waaaay out of your league then you should be suspicious about their intentions when they approach you.
About 2 years ago, in Berlin, I was hitting on this Russian chick and she wasn’t really focusing on the convo and I got suspicious. What really popped my lid was that she unashamedly told me to buy her a beer. That shit is rare on a night out in Glasgow.
Be carefull with Russians.
“They have pre-set ideas that American Men are all manginas and easy financial pickings.”
That statement contains a kernel of truth.
Haven’t had the pleasure of doing a Russian girl yet. The Albanian I’m working on seems to be stable financially and doesn’t show signs of a materialistic mentality and I’ve know her for some time now.
Well, one thing I’ve noticed in our city, is that the hot looking chicks who’d hold out for a rich guy are now settling of average guys who have stable jobs and their own car. And the average chicks who’d keep you on hold hoping to upgrade are now trying like mad to latch onto about any guy they can find. I think it’s the economy. We talk about “trophy wives,” but women have “trophy men” who’re rich and can be manipulated by pussy. Now that there are fewer and fewer “trophy men” for women to catch, they’re desperately taking the best they can do at the moment. I’ve seen this going on for a couple of years now.
A LOT of late 30s/early 40s women here who are not married…They make good money though.
If (when?) there is another stock market crash NYC will be utterly devastated. It’s the taxes paid by the Wall Street hot shots that keep the city afloat.
The ‘tribe’ will not be devastated. Though they will demand an increase in holocaust reparations. Even though they did it to themselves, to have an excuse to create the false state of Israel. Not only that, only 42 000 survivors; yet we are paying for over 4 million?
Do they plan on paying for the people they’ve killed and their descendent too? What about the 100 million they killed through Communism alone in the USSR?
Fuck the “city”. The “city” is a leech which feeds on the people who live in NYC. A
I second this comment for the UK – the chicks are now going flat out for anything that looks half decent and can pay its way. Of course, I feel like most modern men are manginas who are useless in defending our continued way of life. So the women and men in the UK are going to end up dead, as:
(1) they have no weapons and are not allowed to use them to defend themselves
(2) our country has 87 million people, not the 64 million on the official stats
(3) the economy is based on falsehoods and wars
(4) the women are feral and too many single moms in a broken society
(5) the men are now weak and the food supply along with many jobs has been offshored.
I’m just waiting for the day when they bankers make off with all the cash and leave us to eat each other/get killed by some war. And the worst thing is, most Brits are willingly (?) oblivious to all these problems, especially the older generation who have set their kids up to die.
This is spot on for the UK today. It really isn’t going to take much to spark something bad. Race, feminism, finance, tech, Orwellian politics…People are going to get imaginative with homemade weapons. You are right about the older generation being clueless, too. any suggestions of places to relocate, I’d be interested to hear.
It’s because New York City has a strong gender imbalance. There are far more single women than men. So the women are in hyper competition for men.
True, add to that the hook up culture and you’ll find that most NYC women are single aka riding the cock carousel. You’ll hear very often this kind of stuff: “I’m too busy with my job, I have no time for men”, hamster translation= my internship is boring as hell, I love dicks but can’t say it so I have one night stands and won’t settle down unless I find the dream guy.
There is not an imbalance. Of course, cities may attract homos like SF but they make only a tiny dent in the ratio of m/f. If there is a bit of an imbalance it’s with the non white females and no one wants them anyway outside of thirsty blacks. No white man would even bother with them because they are mostly out of shape and always have baggage at a young age like kids or some other bullshit and no money.
You don’t actually game do you? I don’t mean that as an insult, just as a point of fact for clarity’s sake.
Btw, have you noticed that white women in America are mostly out of shape, have kids and no money?
No I don’t game why would I need that kid nonsense.If I see some female I may be interested in I just go over and talk to her.
We don’t have out of shape or fat females where I live,there may be a few chubby ones around but there’s no obesity that’s more of a lower class thing and I can very easily prove it to you.
The reason I asked about game is because of your statement about “non-white females”. Clearly, a “gaming man” doesn’t give a shit, he’s not trying to get married.
From what you say though, game must be heaven for black guys since they have the majority (i.e. non-white females) of women to choose from.
You may want to listen to him
A lot of women(as well as men) are hamstrung by the seemingly endless mating possibilities.
Eastern Europe is much better, as well as central. I lived in Midtown Manhatten for 6 months and was unimpressed compared to abroad. I think the obesity in US makes a lot of women work less harder. I genuinely thought American men would date down in terms of looks, significantly. This is not so common in other Anglo-European countries, though they are gaining ground in terms of this.
Doesn’t apply to Roosh obviously but if you don’t have super tight game you are going to get very frustrated dealing with NYC women. Go out to a bar in Manhattan on a Thursday-Saturday night and you will see hordes of men standing around without any girls around them looking utterly confused and a lot of these guys aren’t bad looking either. NYC women are as hypergamous as they come.
If they go out to bars, they stand around checking their dating profiles on their smart phones. Typeical american city anywhere now. Bars should run jamming signals to make smart phone reception fail. If its that important then they can outside on the sidewalk, and wait in line to get back inside again.
Jam the signal- great idea
If you had a portable jammer you could carry it with you in your pocket and flip the switch anytime some female pulled out her phone. I’m sure its child’s play to build a prototype. Battery life is the only limitation. lol
even more low tech jamming device: lead paint
What, like these: http://www.jammer-store.com/ ?
Interesting. My pocket is exactly where I keep my portable jammer…
True, my larger point is that a lot of guys have the impression that just because the sex ratios are favorable here that they can easily score by virtue of having a penis. It’s an absolute myth.
Some guys have the stock broker mentality. Cold call 100 to generate 2 leads. Sounds tiresome.
Yeah just stay at home and watch the game instead.
Indeed. I myself live in a city where the majority of young students are female. This due to the more feminine studies that are offered at the local university. Does that mean men have it easier? Well, it must have some advantage of course, but you’re more likely to trip over a 21 year attentionwhore making selfies then you actually end up in bed with her. After gaming these chicks for 5 years now I know most of them are conceited.
I don’t know mate. Not having a penis would really fuck up your game.
When I lived in Seattle, I was at a small party in an apartment building. We were using the common room where functions can take place. When I went to the kitchen to get a cold one, there was a decent looking chick on a communal computer — by her self — with a glass of wine. Anyone walking past her could see what she was looking at: OK Cupid.
I went back and said to a couple people, “Did you see that chick sitting on computer by her self w. glass of wine? Did you see what she’s looking at on a Saturday night with party going on?”
It was then a couple women in their 40’s tried to introduce her to me. Although she was an attractive chick, I wasn’t interested as I have little respect for online dating and figured a chick on OK Cupid with a party going on would simply resort back to the online world when she spotted 1 thing she didn’t like.
I don’t suppose you see the irony in you having said this do you?
Yes. After I posted it.
Touché
Kudos to you for recognizing it.
Sadly illegal, but putting in a discrete faraday cage might be do-able.
I’m sure you’re joking, but that would be a violation of FCC regulations. Non-licensed interference with an interstate communications device is a federal crime–literally.
that’s right, federal crime = only the feds can do it 😉
I have a fantastic jamming device. Its called my cock.
Here’s another example of a pyjama boy talking out of his butt. You personally observed this? What was the name of the bar?
On the flip side if you have tight game then nyc is the best city to capitalize on it. Someone has to be banging those hos. Hypergamy is good for seasoned players.
Agreed, for the AFC ( Average Frustrated Chump ) NYC is tough place to meet women, and ROOSH nail it when he said that only men earning 300 K plus will enjoy NYC. In fact unless you want to date down or older then most men will hate NYC.
I live one hour south of the city and used to hit the clubs a lot on the 90’s ( in the military 2000-2004 ) and a little up to 2007 ( 2005 I started day approaches) now I still go from time to time to try my day game ( 44 years old now ). So i guess I can offer some insight about NYC and why ROOSH did so well:
1. Did he actually bang any NYC women? Sorry Roosh but NYC is the mind fuck capital of the world often I talked with a woman thought the conversation want well ( even got the digits ) well I thought wrong.
2. Maybe he appeared successful; Dressing up helps tremendously when talking to women in coffee shops, bookstores, museums,etc. and if you bragged about world travel women will think your a man of value. Only if you can show them you leave in NYC.
3. Night game is far worse then the day gaming some of nastiest and most entitlement minded women I met live in here. I actually found DC women a bit nicer my last time there being 2004.
4. Only at 40+ do the single male / female ratios favor men.
5. NYC will often say I am too far being an hour ( 50 miles) away so this tells me they options yet when lived in Baltimore ( 40 miles ) this was not a deal killer for DC women.
I usually do better across the Hudson ( NJ ). I going to the Brazilian Consulate to apply for a tourism visa and that right there should speak values of how great NYC is for men. It has been 2 years since my last visit But I am going to try about 5 approaches and see what happens…
Agreed but read my response to englishbob below. I think people here are just insanely superficial.
“Sorry Roosh but NYC is the mind fuck capital of the world often I talked with a woman thought the conversation want well ( even got the digits ) well I thought wrong.”
Hehe, a girl actually OPENED ME the other night while waiting for the subway train and we had what I thought was a good conversation, I got her digits and texted her yesterday but no response which isn’t a good sign. Oh well, soldier on I guess.
Did you check to see if she stole your wallet?
There must be two different NYCs…
I think pretty much all cities move at two speeds.
Nope just different types of men some do well in NYC others don’t. Not everyone enjoys large cities like NYC.
If you don’t do well in NYC then you are a cockless mangina beta omega feminist neck beard having mofo.
Daryush Valizadeh or “roosh v” why don’t you go to the middle east and find some girls from where you’re from.
Why are you stalking the guy? You’re on his site paying out on him, at least have some manners or decency to private message him personally.
He was in Turkey awhile back so spend some time to researching before commenting…
Well, Roosh didn’t do too well in NY but it was because of that Yankee Code
Or is it Jante code lol
and ROOSH nail it when he said that only men earning 300 K plus will enjoy NYC
He’s wrong. Do you think that every girl working or living there gets Mr Big like in that fake Sex and the City show where horse faced Carrie who can’t possible make more than min. wage writing some column gets Mr Big.There are plenty of average good looking girls and there are a handful of wealthy men to go around and they travel in their own circles.
Under 40 with 7 and higher in looks, yes. Just look at the number of BMW’s, Mercedes, Lexus, etc. or the number of men that overpay for bottle service in a nightclubs here and you will quickly learn that there are no shortage of high earning men and women know this.
Wealth here is far more important then other cities I have lived in just read dating profiles of attractive women and many have 100k income requirements so this tells me they have options if they can be this demanding.
I tend to do better further west or south when meeting women and this was painfully obvious after trying to talk with 4 NYC women with no success maybe I just do not have the NYC vibe who knows but I had 2 women flirt with me back in NJ so I really believe location is a factor in success with women.
I don’t agree. I have had great nights gaming in NYC and I wouldn’t call my game “super-tight”. Just make sure you are in the right bar or approaching the right targets. i.e. Avoid obviously hypergamous bitches looking to score a rich man if all you want is to get laid.
Or just lie to the bitch whatever works….
For what it’s worth I’m an Asian guy and not particularly good looking though I am relatively tall at 5’10”, I really do get the impression that a lot of girls in NYC are even more biased against Asian guys than in other places but it could just be that I need to improve my game. On the other hand the Asian-American girls here are so obsessed with white men it’s embarrassing.
Just a question before I go any further… how old are you, if you don’t mind me asking?
31 but I consistently get carded at bars because I look like I’m still in college (i.e. don’t ask me how to use shaving cream and a razor because, well, I’ve never needed to shave even once in my entire life)
I was going to say, if you’re not good looking grow a beard. I guess that’s out.
Anyway, the reason I asked is that I found my twenties to be a nightmare period for getting girls. Before and after that, no serious problems. In your 20s you are stuck in a difficult stage (and you probably still look like you are there). Girls are now old enough to know what they want but young enough to be able attract virtually any man they want.
As a black man I get told over and over here (on this site) that no women (white, asian, whatever) wants me. That used to be true. But mid to late thirties and now into my 40s I have pussy of all kinds rolling in hand over fist. Literally I don’t know what to do with these chicks. Their desperation is embarrassing sometimes.
In any case, the best thing is to continue to practice your game. Not just how you talk but how you look. Sharp clothes, good hairstyle, fit body etc. Keep paying dues and eventually the women will come.
You must keep talking to these girls no matter the blow-outs. Hell, I have had some women look at me like I am the scum of the Earth! But roll with it and you’ll get yours.
Btw, check out this website with advice for our Asian brothers…
Oh yeah I’m well aware of advice like this. I’ve been reading red pill writing for years. I don’t frequent clubs very often because I found them to be unpleasant places to be in when I was younger and had terrible game but I’m thinking that I should give them a chance again since I’m a lot more confident now that I’m in my 30s and have a lot more cash to throw around.
I have to say, it was in the clubs where I cut my teeth on game. Scores of chicks all in one spot ready for you to practice on.
then go to places where Asian men are favored like in Asia… plus white men use asian women as cum dump. I mean aren’t all women cum dumps anyways? Asian women just happen to be so easy that all you have to do is be white and show up. I mean sorry to sound like an ass mate but that’s what it is.
I’ve thought about moving to Asia for that very reason however there are enough things I like about NYC and the fact that I’m still learning the ropes so to speak when it comes to gaming that I feel I haven’t put my best foot forward as of yet. Don’t be afraid to denigrate Americanized Asian girls even with me around, everybody knows that their fetish for white men is a laughingstock at this point. And I’m glad you recognize that Asian guys have the most hurdles to overcome in the dating market, I would say even Indian guys have it easier than us because if you pay attention Indian girls aren’t afflicted with white fever nearly as badly as Asian women.
How did the advice work out for you?
Can’t speak to any advice about how to approach on the dance floor since as I said above I haven’t been frequenting clubs however all of the stuff about confidence, being direct etc. is on point, I can tell girls respect me a lot more when I speak to them now even if I still struggle to close the deal
I don’t understand you buddy. If I was Asian like you (which I’m not), I wouldn’t stay in a country that openly mocks and disrespects Asian men especially like in the media. Do you know how many times the small asian penis jokes gets thrown around in the bar and clubs? I’m serious dude. Believe me, I have an Asian buddy and he is even taller than me. He is like 6’2″, works out, buff, good social skills, good paying job, is pretty much set but yet he is a virgin. Every single women rejected him because of his race. Meanwhile I have another asian buddy, he isn’t as impressive; his stats are like 5’9″, average body, not so good looking and he gets laid like crazy in Eastern Europe even though his rejection rates are equally high but at least they give him chance there. If I were you man, I would move abroad. The only reason why I’m still in the states is because I’m white so even though I get rejected a lot, I can always get laid a lot too. But for Asian men, I would say United States is the worse place for dating for Asian men. Stick with Asia or even Europe although you have to remember there are places in Europe that are similar to the states. Check out Winston Wu. The short ugly motherfucker even got laid in Russia and currently he is getting a lot of poon in the Philippines, Taiwan and rest of SouthEast Asia.
I heard that the K-pop thing is massive especially in South America. Believe it or not, there are many hispanic women who give asian men better opportunity and chance than a white women would do. Even if you aren’t Korean with K pop thing or whatever, you can still get a lot of local women in those countries. I’m not telling you to “go back to where you came” from thing so don’t take offense but you should clearly consider ABROAD an option. Just do what Roosh did. Don’t live in America; it’s really fucking bad here man and I’m saying this as a White American. Honestly even though I’m little racist, I couldn’t give a fuck if you fucked white pussies, or whatever since I fuck a lot of asian pussies myself so I’d be hypocrite if I turn into a hater but since I’m also a douchebag, I would openly try to cockblock non-white men who are trying to get laid with white women. I mean it’s just part of male nature to try to “protect” their own women. Sorry for the long talk mate, but just consider what I said. Consider ABROAD an option.
See an endocrinologist for your low T problem. Unless you’re an American Indian that can’t grow a beard there’s something not right.
Going through the whole tagging anything hot phase now and find I don’t get blown out or anything, it is just tricky to convert some into bangs just out of inexperience on the dating scene. I also end up on sit down dates with women I would ltr and slightly physical dates with women I want to bang. Not sure what options are good first date locals without seeming try-hard.
Hell, I have had some women look at me like I am the scum of the Earth!
I can believe that which is why you fit in so well here.
Someone should tell those Indian nerds that the Nehru suit went out of fashion 40 years ago.
http://www.voicesofeastanglia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/234652678_95e27ccbef_o.jpg
And they get accused of rape a lot.
Get a Chinese girl if you’re Chinese. I don’t believe your bullshit because I see Chinese men married to them all the time.
Or become more interesting. here’s a good example for you as an Asian. Nehru suit and all. Girls will love it.
https://fogsmoviereviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/dr_no_joseph_wiseman1.png
Who does?
Lol!
My thing is to get physical as quickly as possible no matter the situation. Touch her upper arm, rub her back etc. If she is not reciprocating move on. The single best thing you can do is approach the chicks who are attracted to you.
When I get them on the dance floor I act like I’m going to kiss them and then don’t. I rub my hip into their clit while dancing and drive these chicks crazy. Before long she’ll be grabbing you and kissing you like it’s her wedding day.
You see a girl you like then you dance over, grab her hand and say honey can you do the cha cha. Like Bruce Lee cha cha champ of Hong Kong.
Um… why?
You’ll have more opportunity to learn (tight game). Apart from the x factor that some of us have, it’s a skill like any other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
new york #1 @ 8.5 million population
Roosh, The reason you find new-york the most liveable is because of it’s size, a larger city has more oppurtunity, it’s simple statistics
is new york special, or is it just big? which means more opportunity?
You have a greater chance of a place matching your lifestyle if it is bigger and more dynamic
But that’s the big advantage for singles in their 20s and 30s. Compare to suburbia where its married with children and restaurants start shutting down at 9pm.
You still have females in suburbia and in NY the bars can stay open till 4am and many are restaurants too.Even in small towns in suburbia there are many different types of women.Roosh could live in suburbia where it’s cheaper even in good areas and then take one of the 3 commuter lines into the city when he wants and the trains run at night even if empty if you don’t want to drive.
NY chicks are nothing compared to Europe, for the most part. And many of those European women don’t have the attitude of western women. I don’t deny that there are some opportunities in the US etc.., but other nations have much better options for men.
It doesn’t have any more opportunity if you’re with the same type of people you’re with as those back home, and people do tend to stay with the same types whether in NY or Chicago.
The Godfather part two was better than the original, and it takes place in New York!
Roosh, bad Idea to move to the state of NY, i live in upstate NY and the taxes are so High here it’s Crazy, there are literally for sale Signs on homes everywhere you look, it’s gotten so Bad that Gov Andrew-“Homo”-Coumo acknowledged that New yorkers are leaving the State because the Taxes are to high, and if your a 2nd Amendment Man forget it, NY is one of the Harsh’s states with Gun Control, all in all NY is a very Bad Idea.
Now NY City may have it’s Benefit’s, but the State of NY is Tanking at a faster Rate than it’s recuperating.
Recently went to Lake Placid. Absolutely LOVED it up there. But as you mention, the high taxes in NY is a serious deterrent from ever thinking about relocating there.
Don’t get me wrong NY is a beautiful State, if it wasn’t for the Liberalism i’d probably live here my whole life, but the Politics here absolutely crush it.
I’m well aware. I grew up in Maine and went to college in Burlington, Vermont — just across Lake Champlain from upstate NY. Upstate NY, the Hudson Valley is beautiful. The NE is a tax heavy region but NY has always struck me as the worse.
New Hampshire is really the most tax friendly in the NE. My only problem with NH is its close proximity to Massachusetts. I absolutely HATE people from Massachusetts. And everytime I’m in NH the cockroaches from MA are spilling over the border with their unbearable meat head, loud abrasive personalities.
The west is completely fucked – for the one guy who is raking it, 3-4 are having a real tough time. And its not because they aren’t smart. Getting paid well these days means you are smart enough to get the job, but stupid enough too (ie it is a requirement to get good jobs that you are kinda dumb). That’s how a creeping communist/totalitarian society is completed. I work with doctors all day and can confirm this is true for the most part. So much for having an MD, it just means I’m another apparatchik for an evil empire, giving out false medicine for a wadful of cash. The medical industry like many others is completely subverted. I wouldn’t take most of the shit they are pushing, like drug dealers.
Well I’d say Fly over Country is still pretty Free, and A lot of the Southern states are good, but the coasts are Liberal dens of Vipers, I got a feeling the Northeast is going to Go full blown Liberal in time.
They’ve been saying that since it was called New Amsterdam.
There were Chris Jenner types who wore dresses and makeup who would troll the waterfront at night looking for sailors and liked to be called His Mightyness
http://www.bilerico.com/2011/09/the_governor_who_wore_a_dress_lord_cornbury.php
More recently Ghouliani
http://www.mathies.com/blog/giuliani_drag.jpg
And of course, queer Ed Koch and the city has survived.
Not to mention the riots of 1863 that lasted a week and killed 1k people including 20 negroes that were lynched for no reason in the Turtle bay section.
Go away dummy. And who’s forcing you to take any drugs? And when you step on a rusty nail don’t bother to get a tetanus shot or rabies if an animal bites you. It’s 100% fatal :o)
Only NJ is worse. A man without a criminal record was sentenced to 7 years in prison for the crime of having unloaded pistols in locked in his trunk.
All the “Liberal” states suck, they in fact aren’t very Liberal with freedoms, unless it’s a freedom that involves complete Degeneracy, but for every other normal God Given Freedom the Libs Wish to Banish it, even though Christy is a Republican, He is a RHINO.
Let me see the story because there must be more to it. Was the guy some felon or on probation?
OK so you live in Hickstown, NY where the property goes for a few thousand an acre and you think taxes are too high. Well let’s see. Everyone has to pay Fed income tax, and many States have State income tax so the only other taxes are sales which every state has and property taxes. I doubt very much that you property taxes can be high in a place where houses and land are cheap and where no want wants to live.
And as far as guns, I’m sure that people all have rifles and shotguns and in NY you do not need a license to buy one.When you buy one you just show some ID so they know who bought it. You can get pistol permits too that cover the entire state except for NYC, Albany and Buffalo that have their own laws.
Any place good is expensive regardless of whether it’s in NY, Cal, Texas, S Carolina etc Even in 3rd world countries the rich good areas are very expensive.
There’s a reason that people aren’t flocking to the Dakotas, Alaska or the back woods.
Andrew Coumo the Governor came out and addressed the Issue of the Taxes in NY being too high, here’s a comparison, I live on 2 acres, it’s $6000 a yr, a buddy of mine in Tennessee pays $200 a yr on his Property tax.
Guess you haven’t Heard of the NY Safe Act yet, but let me give you a Low-down. All “assault” style weapons have been banned, and that pistol permit , depending on the County can take up to 6 months to get, we’ve been reduced to bolt actions and shotguns, and really really funky looking AR-15’s.
Here’s a link about top states people are fleeing , NY Ranks 2nd, The article sugar coats things by saying “oh it’s just the Retired leaving state”, but I know as a Resident that it’s Because Taxes are High, and I do believe the NY Safe Act has something to do with it too. by the way NY is Ranked 2nd in the Nation for People Fleeing with NJ Coming in at 1st http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2015/01/new_york_moving_away_united_van_lines.html
here’s another article that doesn’t quite sugar coat things : http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2015/01/08/movers-study-people-leaving-ny-nj-en-masse-n1940279
$6k? That’s why you’d move? lol It’s cheap because there’s nothing there. You’re probably using cesspools and hard dirty well water.
And I think having to wait to get a pistol permit and that it cost you some money is a good way to keep them out of the hands of the stupid lower classes that are too shit poor or just dumb to carry liability insurance. I’d make it mandatory just like auto insurance.
You sound like a Good Liberal.
I’m from NY but I currently live in Pittsburgh. Went back to visit my sister last summer and remembered how how much I hate it. Pittsburgh sucks too. The only good things I can honestly say are better are the girls, food and convince of transportation, and old friends family.
Like Roosh says, if you have the money it’s the city for you.
I am a Toronto native who went to school in Vancouver. Some buddies and I took a jaunt to NYC and the phenomenon that we all noticed is that the women dress nicer as you move from West to East. There are a lot of hot chicks in Vancouver, but they are decked out in yoga pants and Birkenstocks. Toronto women put some marginal effort into looking good; Montreal girls far more so; but if you go out on a Friday night in NYC you have girls in prime cocktail dresses and high heels all waxed down and with great hair.
Just wait until ‘God’s Chosen’ (in their own twisted minds) tank the economy and ruin America. It’ll have a third world economy by late 2015-2017. Then the women will take anything, but the men will have gone feral from women’s previously shitty attitudes and the fact that there’s nothing to eat and no jobs.
There is a God. And even if you don’t believe it, I hope that you come to. We are lied about everything, from our history to the economy. And one day soon we are going to pay for it. As the economy is tanking in the UK and the women are more desparate, despite being feral themselves. They can sense that everything is going to go to shit and are looking for purely obedient providers, or men who look a bit rough. I plan on leaving before it gets so bad that I CAN’T LEAVE.
PS White men better get with the idea that there is no place for them in the ‘elite’s’ rearrangement of the world, especially in the Titanic areas of UK/US/Northern Europe. And any man of independent thinking is likewise stuffed, whatever your color and creed. Just GTFO because the global oligarchic fourth reich is going to be people manipulated to kill each other and be killed whilst the bankers and their brethren look on and laugh as they toast our collective holocaust. The real Nazis who have manipulated us all are the ones who run the banks and they are surprisingly of a certain ethnicity/death cult perversion. Just look at Caitlyn Jenner and how they want western men and white men to be – one last laugh as they drag us all down to the depths of depravity they have planned for us.
Dude… you seriously need to get laid!
you fucking idiot. read what he just wrote, you beast
Eat a dick bitch!
eat an anus cunt!
Suck hairy balls bastard!
lick smelly cheese off a penis tip you ogre!
Fine. I give up. You win.
LMAO, exactly what I thought. I was like what da hell is this mofo rambling about. lol
It sort of sounds like that wacky stuff from a Dr Bronner’s Magic Soap label.
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6c/fb/72/6cfb7209873eb8840271da0425918493.jpg
I actually think America is going to go the same way as Japan – no major chaos or revolution, just a decades-long slide into endless central bank money printing, cultural mediocrity and men and women generally giving up on life. A lot of the sexual deviancy you see American men dabbling in today is not too far removed from what Japanese men are indulging in.
this is a legitimate question: why the white man? what do they have specifically against the white man? why no other “races”?this question has always plagued me
My understanding via the Frankfurt School is that WASP societies have been trying to marginalize and exterminate Jews for so many centuries that the “Jewish cabal” or whatever came up with the idea that if they promote social changes such as feminism that weaken the WASP family structure then they will not be strong enough to band together against Jews. I don’t really buy the theory myself.
exactly, and that’s why I am so eager to find the answer. because you know there must be a very definitive reason but it eludes me, no matter how I investigate it.
Jew central, no thanks
Yes, and they make up around 7-8% of UK/US populations. They lied about their numbers (as well as many other things). Let’s face it, they did 9/11 and they high five each other every time Caitlyn Jenner comes on. One day they will false flag us all and shut down the net (blame it on an EMP or some thing). They troll every site and make so many baseless accusations. Its plain to see the end of the west(and by association the white man) is in sight.
Go see Jim Stone’s site ( if he hasn’t been taken down yet).
JFK = The worst airport in the USA. Its a National embarrassment.
Been to the Philedephia airport? It literally smells like sewage during summer.
I lived in NY a couple of years, I had a really good time there. A lot of hot tourists only waiting to get the D, many of them travelling the first time alone without daddy to tell them what to do but with his american express!
This city is interesting in that depending on your taste for women, you need to focus on certain areas. If you want to bang hot tourists, Meat Packing District is your place. If you want to bang daddy’s girl from college, hit the east village/lower east side where most NYU students hang out, same shit with upper west side morningside heights with students from Columbia. If you are more into milf, everything starting from Murray Hill (34th St east side) all the way up to half of the upper east side is the area. If you like fit girls who are into the organic-food-yoga-lifestyle have a go at Chelsea, a little bit down you’ll find all the girls working in fashion industry in SoHo and TribeCa. Forget about Times SQ, only fat people and it’s overpriced. If you are into trashy party girls, take the path train and check the bars in Hoboken, NJ, you will not be dissapointed… I don’t have a lot of experience when it comes to Brooklyn so I can’t tell you much about it.
Funny thing about NYC, it’s called the melting pot, truth is most people always hang out in the same area of the city. Like I said before, each area has its own type of people and they rarely mix with each other.
People associate with their own class and for the most part their own race. The comments on here are by boys who live in their own little world and tiny circle assuming they ever get out of the cellar.They see some freaky misleading
stuff in a film or the media and think it’s real life. They believe due to their inexperience of the real world that every girl is going to accuse them of rape(never heard of even 1 case in real life) or is like mattress girl who is considered a freak and in fact when she went to get her diploma, dean Bollinger just turned his back on her and another person on stage just handed it to her.They make these vague comments picked up from some other loser on the net about places they have never been to and think they know something and also have these weird religious beliefs and cockeyed ideas about the past and traditional females (lol) that never existed outside of their own little loser fantasy world.They are so naive and lack all sophistication and worldliness particularly when it comes to females that it’s apparent that their sex starved state is due to their own defects which they will never admit to themselves.In their world every female is riding a carousel while they sit in the cellar and jerk off to perv porn.And frankly these guys who talk about anal sex strike me either as homos or boys who really don’t know women.I bet if I gave them some truth serum that most of them are still virgins or who perhaps got lucky one time with some fat drunk girl.Most of them should just listen to older experienced men and refrain from showing their complete ignorance rather than making obvious fools of themselves by commenting.And that guy who says he was rejected 31 out of 31 when he just asked a girl to dance in a place that appeared to be a dance hall either has something really wrong with him or has such bad judgement that he frequents the crappiest place on earth where every bitch in the city frequents because something like that could not happen in real life. Personally I think there’s something about him that caused it and which was why the girls were laughing at him. Something about him was just giving off the wrong creepy vibes.
I have to say Marcus, I think you are on point with this one.
Historical upvote tally for dr bengay! I think he secretly is rooting for us younger fellas…
I should have a gazillion upvotes on everything I write but you nancy boys are too afraid to do it and just follow along with the herd. You won’t even oppose me by any sort of rebuttal because you fear a tongue lashing.After all, you’re the boys who are afraid to talk to some docile female without getting an anxiety attack so you really fear an Alpha like myself :o)
You gonna go to a roosh shindig in one of those cities? I wanna meet you. I will look for a gentleman with a monocle and and ascot 😉
Still have 20/20 vision. No ties, they’re for the prole cubicle workers.I look more like the villain in a Bond film.
Well that’s the “double-edged sword” aspect of the red pill/manosphere, isn’t it? Because it’s well worth any guy’s time to read it so he can protect himself against modern society’s brainwashing but if he becomes too immersed in it it can start coming off in his attitude towards females in real life and will actually work against him.
That’s the problem with a lot of guys who first discover the red pill. They absorb all the information and it makes them realize that the map of life and society they had was upside down. They turn into frustrated individuals who hate women and society in general for lying to them. Instead of making significant changes about themselves, they prefer to stay isolated in a virtual world trying to idealize a society where they don’t fit because they have no fucking clue about what’s going on.
I believe the red pill/manosphere is beneficial to every guy out there, but too much information about it will have the opposite effect.
All he has to do is just talk naturally to a girl and stop acting from some script especially when the script is bullshit.I would have to know something about him or the place he went to but he’s very vague with that. All he says is that he came from work wearing a suit. Also, these types of places where you do what may be sort of ballroom type dancing don’t usually have bitches who refuse offers to dance and will dance with short or old men unless they really are tired or have some legitimate reason not to.That’s something these crappy clip joint clubs may have girls do.If there was nothing wrong with the dance hall and they refuse him 31 times then I have to wonder why no girl would even dance with him for a few minutes.But he’ll have to tell us a lot more about himself.
You shouldn’t really take any advice from the internet or books but what you observe in real life.
Fantastic.
Multiculturalism is a Leftist dream. The truth is, it’s more like “this is my territory, that is your territory.” If you try to desegregate races they will inevitably segregate again on their own. It’s been tried for how many decades now? The difference between a red neck and a liberal is the red neck isn’t in denial about his racism.
NYC neighborhood segregation maps
NYC has the most segregated schools in the USA
I have spent a lot of time in NYC and score virtually every time I go. NYC is not for living but it is for gaming. There is a massive variety of women so you will score as long as you pick the right targets and the right bars. There are lots of women from out of town. These girls are great targets because they want to have fun (read: DTF).
For me, NYC is a great place for a weekend but I would never live there.
I do think on this web site we need to stop acting like old men complaining about “this new fangled technology”. Frankly, if a smartphone is ruining your game, you have bad game. I am not speaking about anyone in particular here but there is a general and continuous complaint about smartphones. Complaining about new technology makes you appear old and out of touch. In other words, you sound like your grandfather.
“here but there is a general and continuous complaint about smartphones. Complaining about new technology makes you appear old and out of touch. In other words, you sound like your grandfather.”
That’s a valid point, Bob. That said, I dont think smartphones have ruined women, but rather smartphones have simply made women’s real attitudes more transparent. We now know women dont give a fuck about us outside of rescources. Game? Yeah i got game…. cocaine game, baby! Thats a garunteed score!
Ha Ha!
Once these smartphones lose their novelty it will just be something people may carry but won’t be amused with anymore.And as Roosh said Not a single girl blew me out, insulted me, or hit me with a feminist
talking point. Only one girl looked at her iphone during the
conversation
Right, I was making a point in general, not about Roosh. However, like many he did raise smartphones as an issue. It would seem that the statement you have quoted here actually undermines the argument that smartphones are any sort of problem where male/female relations are concerned.
Sure, smartphones will lose their novelty and then be replaced by something else for people to complain about. Perhaps the problem is human nature? If so, then complaining about it is futile.
That doesn’t seem to pan out in my experience. While there has always been complaints about technology, that technology was normally restricted to certain environments. You didn’t carry the thing that sucked your head into fantasy land around with you 24/7, to the bars, to the school, etc. In other words, people got up from in front of the television and went outside. Now, not so much, they simply immerse themselves while outside.
My problem isn’t the tech, it’s the anti-social nature it’s creating in people these days. Not mean anti-social, rather, blissfully unaware that anything exists outside of their iPhone even when walking down the street and running face first into trees and stop signs.
Yeah I bet you scored with a Black Barbie
comes with: 3 kids, food stamps, and AIDS.”
Well man, every kid needs a father figure…
Kids have always found a way to be antisocial. I think the smartphones are blessing because now I can’t hear them (the kids). For me, the worst thing were cellphones in the Nineties. You’d be on the train and there was always one fucking bitch screaming and hollering at her cellphone. Thanks to smartphones, she does that quietly now.
But I don’t understand. Why do you give a shit if someone is quietly checking their FB status or texting all their friends. How or in what way does it hurt you?
So you want to be the Omega fall guy then.
Listen to Tommy.
British Londoner here, when i holiday to America i give New York a miss. I Already live in a multi-cultural(read, no culture), metrosexual hipster-fag, formerly glorious anglo-sphere megalopolis. Nothing to see there. I guess i am more interested in the geographical and cultural beauty of America. I like to fire off some guns now and again, so Florida and Texas are the places for me. Southern Cali is still a great place outside of LA, people, weather. Been to Arizona on business even that was pretty cool.
You live in a bio-suit called your body, and time passes, your bio-suit doesn’t really care how “cool” or “happening” a place is supposed to be. Leave it to women and fags to care about that shit lol. you recieve no benefit from that time passing in new york, the coolness isn’t a real thing, like your body or your children are. If you don’t have to be there to earn very generous amounts of cash, like i do in London, why bother?
Women? Save the money and just have some coke and bang a hooker in your house/hotel room, sounds more like a man getting what he wants, than a trip to new york shitty. Notice only chicks(worldwide) have pics of NYC skyscrapers and whatnot in their facebook cover pics….don’t be a chick, a sellout to “coolness”/”hipness”, that stuff isn’t and never was real anyways. Most of them are selling out to an illusion or gross distortion of something that existed long ago that the mainstream still tries to portray as dominant in our culture, when all there is culturally is ashes and rubble. Don’t be a sellout to rubble and deceit. Only tourists, students, the DecadentRich and henpecked, Low T Would-be-middle-class-if-they-didn’t-spend-all-their-money-on-a-house British Guys have any interest in inner london. I imagine it’s the same for Americans and NYC. Any reviews on NYC hookers? maybe i could be convinced.
your comment just proved to me that there are still British men out there with balls still attached. I don’t mean to make snide remarks though so no offense but I like your comments. It’s right on the point.
Is that an Armani bio-suit? This is an important question
Nyc is too expensive.
Girls in nyc are too smart and rich. Boys don’t generally like such girls. That’s why all the girls remain single.
And nyc is going down with bill deblasio in charge. Minorities will take over the city again
The city has been becoming gentrified over the past 10 years and those minorities won’t be able to live there so problem solved.In 1940 NYC was 92% European.
“Girls in nyc are too smart and rich”
Not most of them and besides they’re females like any other female regardless of how rich and when you’re with them one on one act just like normal females.
There is a growing divide between rich and poor in New York. As long as there is one man/one vote democracy, the poor can always be bought by politicians (using other people’s tax money). Minority populations in NYC are not shrinking in numbers or influence, especially not with Bill deblasio in office.
Most girls in Manhattan are smart and rich. They went to high tier schools and make 6 figures. You won’t find that anywhere else in the world except maybe Silicon Valley/San Francisco. I doubt they have kids there either–that’s why companies are offering to freeze their eggs.
Gentrification will drive out the lower classes in NY and they are almost all the non Euro or better Asians. In 10 years it will be once again a Euro populated majority city.There won’t be any minority voters around to vote on anything.The city is making a smart move here by getting rid of all its liabilities and getting taxpayers to move in.
Get rid of all of those welfare and semi-retarded low paid workers, and illegals who pay no tax and use up all of the resources like schools which cost $20k per head per kid(they all have kids) and require a police force 3c more than necessary. Move in non liabilities who actually pay tax.The city will then have lower taxes in the future where everyone is paying rather than screwing the top 10% who now bankroll the city.
And DeBlasio is no liberal and has to play ball with the monied people the same as it is everywhere on earth.He tells the dumb proles who voted for him that they’ll be more low income housing but there never will be.By next election they won’t live in NYC or vote. It will all be the better off or hipsters from Ohio.
The demographic trend so far shows a shrinking white population
10 years majority euro populated? The demographic trends in nyc and in the USA (Europe as well) do not back that up. European peoples are on the decline
All of the top desirable areas will be populated by Whites and some Asians regardless of how many negroes are around.Even now NY has the most segregated school system in the US.
The negro population of the world 10k years ago was a small handful living on the west coast of Africa.
One plague or some virus which Europeans are immune to could wipe you all out.
Aside from that it doesn’t matter who has the biggest pop. because a gazillion people with an average IQ of 85 can never outsmart peoples with much higher brainpower.Jews are like 20m in the entire world and they seem to do alright.
I understand that but the desirable areas (and people) are shrinking and undesirable areas and people are growing. It cannot continue without ramifications–namely redistribution of money by uncle sam
They don’t outsmart but they do outvote–voting their way into our wallets
What do you think the left wing is all about
Not in NYC where the prices have been going up and formerly crappy areas are being gentrified.People spending this sort of money don’t want to living near minorities. In a few years places like Haarlem and upper Manhattan will go back to their white roots the people who originally built those townhouses and nice buildings. They’ll renovate those solid houses that had been neglected by the lower classes and bring them right back to the original state.
This isn’t an argument. The demographic data show growing minority populations and shrinking white population. Nobody wants to live near minorities.
Expect to see increases in crime, taxes and government largesse as long as left wingers occupy any political positions. This is true at any level. New York only thrived over the last 20 years due to 2 solid right wing mayors–both independently wealthy from private sector success.
If by “smart” you mean memorizing university Marxist indoctrination. Women are good at memorizing things, but they aren’t ambitious and few are very imaginative. Hence, why the vast majority of our cultural and technological advances (even after feminism) were developed by men. It won’t ever change because biology plays too important of a role. I’m not saying women are stupid, they aren’t, but there’s a reason they’re underrepresented in the top echelon of geniuses who’ve changed the world.
I see what you mean
Having said that, New York girls do have higher IQs than girls from probably anywhere else in the world. New York girls are career oriented girls, not family oriented.
I mean IQ, it’s more objective
Daryush Valizadeh or “roosh v” why don’t you go to the middle east and find some girls from where you’re from.
Well now, aren’t you the little racist? Let me guess, you’re a leftist feminist. Right?
sometimes I taste my own poop for fun
are you a dog? Dogs eat their own shit.
http://www.rooshv.com/are-turkish-girls-worth-it
he doesn’t want to and he doesn’t have to. He can go to anywhere he wants.
if white people suck so much you should stay away from their girls.
What da fuck does this comment have to do with my reply.
An income of 300k is in the top 5% of married tax filers, 1% of single filers and 3% of all filers. For 150K the percentages are 81, 98, and 89 respectively. Since the target demographic seems to be single males, it is obvious that NYC is a tough place, just to survive in, let alone game.
pros- pretty girls (although most are batsh*t crazy), high income potential,
cons- city pretty much consists entirely of office buildings and expensive restaurants; insanely high cost of living; highest number sociopath per capita than anywhere else.
I’ve lived in NYC for about 20 years (way too long). Most young men visit NYC, become enthralled, and feel they have to live there. After living there about 5 years or so, it starts feeling like a prison.
Bottom line- nice place to visit, you don’t want to live there (at least not very long). At best, it’s a stopover, not a final destination.
Where did you live? NYC can mean the S Bronx or Bed Sty or Haarlem.
The Lords of the Manosphere really need to get over this obsession with blue state hellhole cities.
Or not. Hey, I don’t mind living near the largest college campus in these united States, devoid of dudes wearing top hats and snake coats. heh
I’m not sure about Washington DC (since i’ve never been there for the social scene) with regard to the females there, but i can definitely attest that the rest of your list is highly accurate Roosh, given that i lived a considerable part of my life in the prog “utopia” that is NY.
All you have to do is take a walk down Times Square at any time during the day and you will see #1 and #2 in action especially.
I’m not sure i would have noticed it or noticed it as effectively back when i was living there, but it astonishes me how often i see this whenever i take the occasional visit to visit family. I see female AND male drones looking down at their smartphones blissfully and perpetually, as if they are being whisked away to some other reality in which the laws of logic and reason do not apply. In fact, when they are not looking at their smartphones (or some related device) they tend to stare forward and blankly (or forward down at the pavement) whenever they expose themselves to public interaction. The look of misery or listless expression has become such a perpetual cliche for NY’ers precisely because of this. Ny’ers are indeed miserable, because they by necessity must work like the proverbial workhorse since the progressive taxation there is soul crushing…and yet, they keep voting in progressives who endeavor to keep the soul crushing status quo in effect. The big apple has some retardation in it, apparently.
I am not the world renowned or even State renowned traveler you and some of the other gents on here are, so i don’t know if this specific smartphone phenomena is just as apparent in other states, but given the fact that tech-conformism tends to exist irrespective of location, i would think that it is indeed prevalent, since the curse of Prometheus has made this kind of technology a favored past time of the dull and dullard especially.
Having grown up across the river in NJ and having gone to college in Manhattan, I can tell you meeting women in NYC is easy. In my youth I was stopped and propositioned by a hot Columbia Law school student in a place that is no longer there called the Cadillac Bar. I think it’s just numbers. Between all the women who move there from other parts of the country to go to work or attend college and the ladies that comprise the bridge and tunnel crowd men have a very favorable ratio.
How do you manage with that awful buggered goose accent though? I’ve met some perfectly pleasant New England/North East Coast women in my life time, but that accent is like an absolute -2 on the SMV rating to me. It just scratches on my soul like fingernails across a chalk board.
Well, if you grow up around it you don’t notice it so much. Many women in Manhattan don’t have that awful accent. You are thinking more of those Jersey shore reality shows and all those eye-talians. My accent is not discernable to most people and I have lived out west for 10 years.
Actually I wasn’t thinking of that show, I’ve never seen it. Though you’re probably right, the ones I know are (or were at the time) from Boston. Sent chills of pain down my spine to hear them talk.
You mean like Edith Bunker? lol There are many accents and they all depend on class not location.The more upper class speak the King’s English. Cops all sound like they went to the same school where they taught them to speak that way lol Any regional accent almost always means prole.People who read the news whether on the BBC or ABC do not have accents (OK in today’s multicult you may find a couple)
Yeah this is true Roosh, however, while girls here are pretty open, they’re also pretty flaky.
New York the “City that never Sleeps,” and “If you can make it there you can make it anywhere.” This is a city I know in and out! It’s a large tough city and the most diverse city in America, in a way its an education in of itself. Being from New York you can learn about more cultures simply walking down the street and you have a certain experience not found anywhere else in America. Its an interesting city that changes rapidly in its demographics. It is not like the New England States because of its Dutch background when it was New Amsterdam as opposed to places like Boston which was founded by English Pilgrims (that is Europeans, it existed thousands of years prior).
What I love about New York is that you can find women of all racial backgrounds and mixtures. You can find an Asian mixed Black (Blasian) a Turkish Latina, an Arab Black girl or Latina and any other mixes. I have my favorite boroughs for meeting women, certain boroughs have certain women I prefer. Honestly it depends where you go to pick up women, some places can be very hard and you have to have lots of “game.” To me I think the easiest place to meet women is California, almost no work involved there especially if you lived in New York.
As for the comments on the current Mayor De Blasio, many liberals love this man and for good reason. The NYPD has had high levels of corruption throughout their history and a turbulent relationship with the people in the inner city. For example Police have gotten away with murder literally like Amadou Diallo where they shot at the man 41 times hitting him 19 I believe, or Patrick Dorismond and the nightstick incident (these and many other incidents happened under Guiliani’s watch) they then move the rial away from the location of the incident outside of the city for example. You see no one is supporting true criminals here, they are just mad of a history of the police getting away with crimes. Also the Black Mayor David Dinkins was the first to turn the tide of crime and also check Police brutality and injustice. This made the NYPD very angry, because many of them whine if everyone doesn’t support them (which many do already) or kiss their ass. Don’t get me wrong there are many fine officers but they don’t speak up against the bad ones usually. Giuliani also opened up records of victims to justify horrendous crimes committed by the NYPD. This is the real reason many people in New York do not like him, and i’m speaking as an insider here. Guiliani also incited a drunken police riot at City Hall where racist terms were shouted at Dinkins, who is a Marine Corp Veteran and a cum laude graduate of Howard University with a degree in Mathematics, an honorable man I must add.
Guiliani is a joke and was taken to school by Ron Paul in the Republican debates and told to come back after he read some books and did his homework. Even though he is a mouthpiece for ignorant Fox News Media he will not win a Republican Nomination because he is a “Blue State” Republican and will not appeal to Red State people. Furthermore the income inequality is actually a serious issue, its not that “everyone should be the same” that is a silly idiotic response, what people saying is that the wealth gap is widening, Wall Street and Big Banks are buying our politicians with no end in sight. You have some of the most richest neighborhoods within a few miles of the poorest neighborhoods in America right in New York City!! It’s a disgrace that will tear the country down in the future. As for social issues not all liberals support Feminism obviously something that seems lost to many here.
Overall New York City is a unique place, its a great place and teaches you a lot on life. But not everyone can make it there, and some people leave as they get older. It is a place everyone should visit however. Just a different perspective.
David Dinkins accomplishments before Guiliani took over:
Significant accomplishments in lowering New York City’s crime rate and increasing the size of the New York Police Department, and the hiring of Raymond W. Kelly as police commissioner;
The cleanup and revitalization of Times Square, including persuading the Walt Disney Corporation to rehabilitate an old 42nd Street theater;
Major commitment to rehabilitation of dilapidated housing in northern Harlem, the South Bronx and Brooklyn despite significant budget constraints—more housing rehabilitated in a single term than Mr. Giuliani did in two terms;
The USTA lease, which in its final form New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg called “the only good athletic sports stadium deal, not just in New York but in the country”;
Mental-health facility initiatives; and
Policies and actions that decreased the size of the city’s homeless shelter population to its lowest point in 20 years.
most of wallstreet votes democrat. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2014/apr/16/jim-demint/not-many-times-more-democrats-sometimes-do-raise-m/
You are ignoring the fed’s QE policies directly favor banks, and allow asset inflation so stocks keep rising with their easy-money policies. the stock market inflation caused by easy money from the fed is a large factor in income inequality….
Like most liberals you can’t plainly see how big government favors banks and wallstreet, instead you blame evil republicans.
Furthermore, it’s a free country. If there’s a 2 million dollar house next to a poor area…….big fucking deal. this isn’t some socialist shit hole where every goddamn house needs to be ‘equal’ to make you fruits feel better
Im not blaming just “Evil Republicans” first of all since many Democrats are also in the pockets of Big Money to begin with..its just Republicans do so openly. The Fed is also the problem…I’m not sure what you mean by most “liberals” lol…There is a saying the only thing “Federal” about the Federal Reserve and FedEx is the NAME.
Again you are simplifying what I’m saying you said “this isn’t some socialist shit hole where every goddamn house needs to be ‘equal’ to make you fruits feel better”
Again let me repeat for the 10,000 time never gets old…its ok to have more money than the next man, it creates competition and rewards hard work and clever ideas…if your CEO makes 100 times more than you fine but if the CEO makes 100,000 times more than you where does it stop?! you see the conversation is about runaway Capitalism which creates an ever-growing large Wealth Gap. Where in the world did I mention everyone should be “even.” Don’t simplify if, and yes I care because this runaway Corporatism and Money into politics corrupts the system and is the wood used to spark civil unrest. We have seen it in the past and we will see it in the future.
Also just to note Wall Street has always given money to candidates of both parties even though they prefer usually the Republicans…because more money equals more CONTROL! Not sure what you are trying to prove..obviously, why bet on one horse when you can bet on two right. Its actually very simple. Real Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt were seen as dangerous by the monied class because he spoke against them and was not easily BOUGHT.
Regarding DC- a lot of the people, especially the upper NW whites look like death warmed over/mummified. The women tend to be fat, unkempt, hysterical and power-hungry. The warmest people overall are the various types of Latinos and blacks- although the feral component of the latter cannot be ignored. I only associate with expatriates or first-generation immigrants – by and large. Too many twinks, fembots and not enough real down-to-earth comrades – from my point of view.
Tom Leykis laying it down on that sewer of a city. https://youtu.be/Yqw2FdTOd9g
Leykis likes Cal. because it’s the only place the Mexican hookers will even go with him, for any amount of money. He should tell you about his old gf who was 71 and like really hot lol I’m not joking, ask him.
Some of the things Leykis says about NY are right but let’s remember that he was a lower class fat kid from Queens.
And since Tom lost that one good job he had at a Cal. station he’s been pretty much been living in a shack.
Not sticking up for Tom but was going to mention just that (that he’s from/lived in NY). As such, his observations are relevant, at least from his point of view…
In the world and esp NY class is everything. His experiences are not the same as someone else.Ever see the old film Saturday Night Fever? Brooklyn is just on the other side of the bridge from lower Manhattan but to the character it was another world. Manhattan is a small area yet the differences even there are quite different from section to section.I can walk from Hell’s Kitchen(not that bad and the name is from a German, Heil, who ran a cafeteria there in the 1800’s) to the theatre district in 5 min but I doubt that many there have ever been in a theatre.Haarlem is not that far either but it’s a different world.
As I said, Tom is from Queens I believe and that’s a different world, it’s Archie Bunker country. He was not exactly a habitué of Manhattan until perhaps he made some money at an older age, if that. So he is no expert and like an outsider looking in.
Of course… Tom’s experiences are valid for him and his audience (I presume his main target audience is average men who don’t live in Manhattan).
Most readers of this article would probably share the same experience as Roosh if they came to NY under the same circumstances; being an unestablished outsider lacking in local knowledge and connections.
I’m not even recommending NYC but Leykis is full of shit about most things and only likes LA because he can get a Mexican girl there if he has a little money. Tom wouldn’t exactly fit into any sort of sophisticated NY lifestyle, or even in LA.
I listened to his show years ago on the Net before the station turned to music and he was out of a job. It’s hard to say how many legitimate callers he had because a lot of these shows have fake callers but from what I heard his callers really are lame and young. He intentionally tried to fill this niche probably thinking he could milk it and it would be more amusing than trying to appeal to an older group who would find his nonsense just silly.
Totally grok this.
One chilling and yet awesome effect of the lefty-wuss maledom there is how many women constantly cheat on their hipster bfs. It’s unreal. When they start ovulating, for 2-5 days any man who isn’t afraid of his penis and will tell her to shut up can do anything he wants to these girls.
I had a ton of notches in NYC where (1) the girl or her friends let slip she had a bf or (2) we went to her place and I saw pictures of her bf there and telltale signs of a male presence.
Basically, the hipster beta sjws dudes were the “right” guy for them until they actually started craving what nature told them to have–which they did on the sly. That’s where you slip in. And I didn’t look for it, I just looked for the girls with hunger in their eyes.
Add to that the famous NYC imbalance of the sexes (more single women than men, and has been since the 1990s), and the fact that the large gay male population skews the numbers even more, and the fact that the remaining single guys are usually hipster-weak-sjws, and you can go nuts there if you have even the hint of a confident sack. Especially if you’re a non-black dude with confidence; it’s getting rarer there by the day. I knew an asian bartender dude, 45 and balding, who specialized in breaking college girls up with their boyfriends, and had no shame doing it. He just was bold about it. There were so few Asian dudes with his swagger that these college girls were lining up to experience his rarity.
NY is like any other normal place and females are not going to fuck you just because you showed up.The problem with the basement blanket boys on here is that they don’t get out even in the area where they live or that they are so inept or repulsive in some way that they couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse. You can tell from their comments and excuses about everything. They’re either too shy to even talk to a girl and have a million excuses why females will reject them or are sluts or make some complaint against them.Everything from a shit test they can’t pass even though girls are sometimes just teasing them and they get all butthurt they are so insecure and inexperienced. Or if they get lucky the girl is going to claim he raped her. Or they want a virgin for a wife lol Or a gazillion other excuses for not doing anything but complain. As I said, NY is just a normal place for sex so don’t make these misfits believe that they just have to go there and the girls are waiting with open arms.And btw, don’t think that the men in NY are as pussified as you imagine just because they may have a little refinement that you’re not accustomed to because you may get your butt kicked.They are not like what you see on that Girls show which have to be the sorriest lot you can imagine.
lol.
boy, I lived there for many years. nice try, though, attempting to swerve from the truth.
*guffaw*
My father’s family has owned property in Manhattan since the late 1700’s and although I attended private schools in England I’ve been in NY off and on since before you were born. So where are you from? Ohio? *gaffaw*
A man can have a “ton of notches” anywhere but what did these dogs you allege to have shagged look like.And they must have been real losers if their bf’s looked like the male cast on Girls.You bullshitting pyjama boys kill me. There were no real men until you, all 5’5″ of you showed up from Ohio lol
rofl. You don’t even make sense boy, and your credibility is falling apart. Magically you’re some scion of a super-wealthy aristocratic family? This is humorous. Next you’ll tell me all about how you cured cancer one day while having a threesome with Marylin Monroe and Helen of Troy.
*guffaw*
You know nothing kid.
lol. said the liar.
what’s next? are you an astronaut too?
Great report Roosh. Never been to NY but it doesn’t sound so bad
Good article, Roosh. Thanks. Do you think the euphoria of being in NYC improved your game? I notice that when I visit places, I feel more free, and that has positive effects on my game.
Just a thought. Also, liked the mention of sample size. Along related lines, correlation != causation.
You seem to be having some recent successes, and it is possible for you to carry that glow around with you.
You said it all. Just got back from NY. Last time I was there I was 9 and I’m now in my mid 20’s. Had a great time and would definitely visit again but couldn’t live in an urban environment like that lol. Just not my thing
Roosh?
Fucking Bravo on this post! I have not visited this site in awhile due to how negative it was getting on here between articles and commenters, plus it was weakening my game with people and their bias opinions. It’s amazing what the cognitive mind does when it comes to associating value to someone or entity. Glad I took a breather.
I noticed that the cultural climate changing in New York. I have been approached every time I come down there, and the women seem nicer than the states I’m from now (New England). Chicks are more culturally embracing, where as a man of color I get hit on by females who are white, Asian and etc. and when I approach women here I feel it is effortless. No chicks looking at their phones, making great eye contact, genuinely smiling and laughing with me. Even my friend who had NO game and doesn’t even go out has had a few chicks to fuck and date (rated 6s and UP) in his couple years.
These experiences have given me a sense that NYC has changed. I was born and raised in NYC and remember how the NY mentality was harsh. Also with white college kids moving into the once notoriously crime ridden sections of NYC (Harlem is not the way it use to be, Brooklyn is not the Brooklyn it use to be), people are more smiles and engaging.
I think I need to visit NYC more often.