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Always Subtract 40% From Every Woman’s Appearance

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Here at Return of Kings, our columnists continually instruct men not to place women on a proverbial pedestal. Most of the time, this concerns emotional, psychological and romantic pedestalization. Yet the aspect of this phenomenon you need to know the most about and which gives life to all the others, the physical embellishment of a woman’s value (via cosmetics and photographic technology), is the one most ignored.

After all, in 2015 we are very much stuck in the heyday of L’Oreal and other conglomerates making billions from the facial illusion industry.

For every female you see on the street, in a club, at your university or in the workplace, you need to manually deduct 40% from her appearance and treat her accordingly. This needs to happen until you can automatically do the subtractions yourself. I have arrived at the figure of 40% because most women don’t lose the majority of their physical value when they wash off their makeup or non-digitize their visage. Plus, some women lose more than 40% (take the Mila Kunis photo above, for example) while others lose only around 20%. 40% is a very useful rule of thumb.

Women’s beauty routines and online self-presentation are about self-esteem and deceiving others

This is the same person on the same day. Perception is quasi-reality, but this woman’s true physical reality is much closer to the image on the left.

Don’t necessarily see the chasm between a woman’s made-up appearance and true appearance as some kind of malicious feminine (or feminist) conspiracy. Very few people in this world don’t want to be perceived as more aesthetically pleasing, whether it’s men wanting bigger biceps and washboard abs, or women desiring unblemished faces and the pretense of high cheekbones that look much less impressive sans cosmetics.

These beauty routines are also designed to improve her own confidence and perception of herself and are not only about enchanting you. For 8-16 hours a day, women want to adequately convince themselves that they are close to as alluring as the goddesses they see peppered across TV commercials and sitcoms. Like men, deep down they know it’s an act, but the emotional pull of the temporary delusion for half or two-thirds of a day is just too strong.

Nevertheless, the social benefits of being perceived as attractive are intrinsically entwined with this self-delusion. When women reach a threshold level of attractiveness, the world becomes easier, more exciting and more indulgent of them. Men acquiesce to their requests, women want to befriend them and, most importantly, they garner the intoxicating overall joys of people paying (positive) attention to them.

To think that a primary reason for women inflating their appearance is not popularity, adoration and the other byproducts of being regarded as hot is analogous to denying that the sun will set at the end of the day.

The Lady Gaga Effect

Take a gander at Lady Gaga sans makeup (and utilizing a side shot to present her “best” angle):

Now juxtapose it with her singing appearance at the Oscars:

Though far from a 10 in my book despite wearing makeup, Gaga’s attractiveness in the makeup-less shot is at least 60% less than the second photo. The exact figures depend on subjective evaluation, but I’d say Kunis’ drop, as evidenced in the main image for this article, is more dramatic still at around 70-80%. In her case, this takes her from bangable to untouchable, even if you and her were the last human beings on the planet.

The reason I have chosen Lady Gaga is that, more than perhaps any other celebrity in the world, she is obsessed with changing and promoting her own image. Raunchy provocation (or at least that’s the intention) and constant shape-shifting are behind her name being known by almost every person in the Western world under 60.

It is your job to regard practically every woman under 40 you come across as a Lady Gaga Lite, a chameleon compelled to project an image of greater color and sexual life to hide an otherwise much, much blander exterior.

The Instagram and Facebook era

Actually, this isn’t reality until she takes off the face paint. So it will get even worse.

It’s not just cosmetics you need to be wary of. Camera angles and filters are, after makeup, a girl’s best friend and distort actual appearances much more so when combined with cosmetics. Black-and-white, monochrome, sepia and other filters are all intended to heighten a female photo subject’s attractiveness and mask less appealing facial and other bodily qualities. So, too, are certain high or low angles (especially when combined with the exhibition of cleavage).

There’s a strong argument for asserting that my rule of thumb should be 40-70% for online female appearances, particularly if you have met the women in question less than three times or not at all. So if you’re looking for a real-life introduction to a certain friend of a friend, be warned. You’re bound to either be disappointed wholesale or suffer a moderate case of false advertising.

Make it a community effort, boys

This is the kind of disparity you want between a woman’s true and contrived appearances. But you never know until everything’s off.

Men have to be more judicious and discerning as an entire gender. Naturally, being less easily convinced about artificial presentations is good for your own life. It is also a characteristic we should be instilling in other men. Back-of-the-brain knowledge of the harsh truths about idealized female projections is not enough and most males still, tragically, respond as if the illusion were true.

Fundamentally, no woman is truly hot until you’ve seen her in the shower or, to a lesser extent, woken up beside her the next day when everything has rubbed off.

What’s the point of getting excited about a woman who’s just not worth your time… or lust?

Read More: What’s The Difference Between Posting Your Cleavage And Showing Your Bank Balance On Instagram?

253 thoughts on “Always Subtract 40% From Every Woman’s Appearance”

        1. Not required since now you can run a marathon during your heaviest flow and be considered a hero.

  2. I think most men can tell whether a woman is “gussied up.” Just avoid the face painting clowns from the start and you’ll never be disappointed.
    Checklist:
    Depend on makeup? Avoid
    Out of shape? Avoid
    Social Media queen? Avoid
    Self-Centered? Avoid
    Wants to be “One of the guys.” Avoid.
    Has a lot of male friends. “We’re just friends.” Avoid. She’s likely screwed all of them.
    Easily gives up the poon. Avoid. If it is easy to get, others found it easy too. Easy to get, easy to lose.
    This ain’t rocket science.

    2. “Easily gives up the poon. Avoid. If it is easy to get, others found it easy too”
      Indeed. Any skag that spreads her legs for a guy is serving dude No. 5001.

    5. Yes, YeS, YES!
      This is another reason I’ve ditched night game for day game. In addition to the makeup, hair, styling, and Spanx-ware, night crawlers take advantage of the dim lighting to hide what those things cannot. Who wants to bang a vampier? Ewww.
      If a girl is marginally passing my boner test during the day, then she should be able to sexy up herself up 1 to 2 points. So, I do the reverse and add 40% of the difference between 9 and a girl’s raw daytime score with low/no makeup in yoga pants and flip flops — aka, her Starbucks Score. Use 10 if there’s something about her that’s especially outstanding (boobs, legs, butt, hair, etc) that appeal to your particular tastes.
      So a daytime 6 that passes the “Would I bang her?” test, gets a score of 6 + (40%*3), or a respectable 7.2. A bangable 5 could potentially become a 5 + (40%*4), or a 6.6. This assumes she know how to sex up her look.

      1. A good test is the gym. Most normal women don’t go to the gym wearing pounds of make-up. So a woman there who looks pretty is going to be great on date night.

        1. I used to know a girl who wore make up to the gym. Her makeup would not last and one of my buddies who went to the same gym said she looked like a frog without it.

        2. “one of my buddies who went to the same gym said she looked like a frog without it.” – – – Oh well, at least she’s a frog with a banging body! 😀

        6. “Hihi, in Eastern Europe we wear makeup and do our hair even when we go take out the trash!!! ^.^” – – – BLESS YOUR SOULS!!! 😀

        7. You wouldn’t imagine the kind of sh!t I got from Western girls because of my hair-doing and makeup applying passion. ‘OMG why do you get so overdone? why do you always overdress? why do you wear makeup every day? don’t you want to be natural?’
          Note- ‘natural’ in these women’s conception means unshaved pits, undereye circles, dry lips and facial hair. Thanks but no thanks.

        8. Keep on doing you! 🙂 A blossoming flower doesn’t need to justify being beautiful to a wilted weed!

      2. “Who wants to bang a vampier? Ewww.” – – – You will be banging in a dimly lit room anyway! 😀 So no big deal! 😀

        1. Not me brother. I’ll let a chick give me a bj in the dark, but that’s about it.
          Hell, I won’t hardly touch a bitch who’s not in the industry (porn, modeling, escort, etc) who doesn’t get her monthly STD panel run as do I. My health is too important to pick up all manners of disease from bitches who know, but don’t tell you they’re carriers of everything from HSV to HIV. It only took one scare from a lying herp-carry whore to adopt this rule. for myself. They’re the real blood sucking vampires.
          Banging bitches without that STD testing is really banging in the dark! Yes, I will send them to the local AnyLabTestNow to get tested and get results direct from the lab so they don’t forge the report. And yeah, that destroys the ONS play for me. BFD. My hand never gave anything but guaranteed satisfaction. And, NO, condoms alone don’t provide sufficient protection, especially against viral infections (e.g. the herp).

    7. I have a special disdain for the girls who hang out with guys because “girls cause too much drama.”
      She hangs out with the guys because she’s a special kind of damaged that her own tribe has disowned her. She ends up getting the guys to thirst over her. Then she inevitably causes drama.
      So what was that about “girls cause too much drama” again?

        1. “Or ones only hang out with gay guys…” – – – These women want MASCULINE ENERGY without MASCULINE DESIRE. They get upset when the guy attracts a guy she is interested in though. 😛

        2. Girls who hang only with gay guys are the worst kind of bitch.
          As you stated, they crave masculine company without masculine desire, as if men could be chosen “a la carte” like a fucking meal on a restaurant’s menu

      2. “I have a special disdain for the girls who hang out with guys because “girls cause too much drama.”” – – – GIRLS DO CAUSE TOO MUCH DRAMA!!! 😛

    8. Right on the dot !
      But add… Tattoos on the body…AVOID
      Hair colouring, Green, Blue, Pink… AVOID !
      Piercing nostrils, eyebrows …..AVOID…
      That will sum up nicely !

      1. “Tattoos on the body…AVOIDHair colouring, Green, Blue, Pink… AVOID !
        Piercing nostrils, eyebrows …..AVOID…’
        All this means is, you’re missing out on some really awesome ladies! 🙂 Tattoos and piercings usually indicate she’s DTF!!!! 😀 NO GAMES!!! 😀

        1. A girl with 2 or more weird hair colors is not only DTF but advertising her availability for hard anal.

    9. Have your standards and that’s it. To each their own. “Easily gives up the poon.” That’s a KEEPER in my books! 😀 Why you want to fight for it? >:I YOu want poon, she wants d*ck! Match made in heaven! 😀

      1. There’s a difference between her throwing on some lipstick and a little coverup, painting another face on her face like she’s an actress getting ready for her closeup, and (more deceptive still) using advanced shading techniques from makeup tutorials to (for example) create an optical illusion that her eyes aren’t freakishly far apart.

    13. what is the point of this article…the true girl is the one without makeup…she shouldn’t be penalised for what she looks like without makeup and cosmetics…

    14. “Easily gives up the poon. Avoid. If it is easy to get, others found it easy too. Easy to get, easy to lose.”
      I disagree. That holds true if you are at the same level as any other guy. Be different and/or better and maybe she will really like you and will open her legs faster.

    15. YEAH … but please suggest if any left after fitering all of these 😀 😛
      (Please mail me/tag me you find some good ones …)

    17. My checklist for guys:
      Thinks I wear makeup because I’m insecure or thinks I wear makeup for him: Avoid
      Judges my worth based on my weight: Avoid
      Judges my worth based on my internet activity: Avoid
      Perceives my confidence as conceit: Avoid
      Thinks being friends with guys means I want to be “one of the guys”: Avoid
      Thinks I fuck all my male friends: Avoid
      This isn’t rocket science.

    18. I have a check list too (:
      But for guys
      Shorter than 6’2? Avoid
      Doesn’t have Rock hard abs? Avoid
      Doesn’t make more than 500,000 a year? Avoid
      Honestly I can’t deal with short poor guys, they make me vomit.

      1. The saving grace for me is I’m under 6’2. I consider myself lucky that I don’t meet that standard. I don’t even fucking care and why should I, most of the greatest men in history were under 6’2″.
        The most revolting thing to me is the typical high maintenance woman, completely narcissistic and “entitled” to a life where they expect everything handed to them for being marginally attractive under a pound of makeup. Men don’t owe women shit. Women, in the majority haven’t really contributed much even when handed the opportunity on a silver plate. I can’t wait till women are required by law to register for Selective Service. In the spirit of equality I want to see you drafted.
        The leggings, uggs and long sweaters of the Suburban queens make you look like consumer branded cattle. You literally can’t look in any direction without a group of them giggling inanely.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0c71cb6f200b9759db15f28c2938247c37295fc57deb2039c1c4cd5e2c40fdc.jpg

        1. I’m not superficial and I do realize the list I made was ridiculous , just like the list above and everything on this website. Girls should be able to wear as little or as much make they want, act how they want and look how they want. Period. Subtract 40% from a girls appearance? Wtf? if you truly agree with everything on this website you have some sort of issues.

        2. Sure! Do wear as little as you like but accept the risk your decision if shit goes wrong. If said shit goes wrong don’t blame the patriarchy, but the individual and recognize the choice you made.
          I don’t believe everything on the site, but most of it. If I disagree it’s accepted or rejected. People discuss, learn from, accept or rejects ideas and learn from others. Little social justices fairies have to tow the line and accept group think to be a player. We don’t.
          My issue is that some woman have the world and they feet and still do little or nothing but complain and whine. That trend is unhealthy for men and women. Woman want to be treated as equals, when it suits them and walk away from it when it doesn’t. Men don’t have the luxury of floating between jobs and providers. Men either make it or sink. Nobody gives a shit about homeless male veterans who served their country over a woman that has a lump in their breast. Want to be equal? Then accept men don’t owe you anything because you may be moderately attractive. We don’t have to pay your way through life because you exist.

        3. A women with a lump in her breast has cancer and could die. A homeless veteran is completely different. If you compared a homeless man to homeless women or a man with cancer compared to a women with cancer then your argument would make more sense. I don’t make men pay for me at all, i went with my friend on Friday and he insisted on paying for everything even though I had my card out and I really wanted to pay for my things myself. And I personally don’t need make up, I wear mascara and Chapstick. So I’m not risking anything if I wear no makeup because I still get hit on. I only wear makeup to work ad I still don’t wear foundation because I have no blemishes and I still get tons of guys coming up to me wanting a dance and take me out.

    19. Avoid girls with male friends? My best friend is a guy, and I have not screwed him, as you so vulgarly put it. He is like the older brother I never had, and I love him like family. He gives me advice when I need it, warns me if someone is only into me for sex, and in return I act like a doting younger sister and show him respect. We also have the same godawful sense of humor.

  3. The illusion makeup creates is bad enough, but why does every white girl insist on burning up their hair with chemicals to create the illusion they are blonde? Real blonde and bleach blonde are two different worlds. Personally, I hate burned up hair.
    We’ve had this discussion where I work a number of times. Without makeup a lot of the women we work with are dogs. On rare occasions we’ve seen them sans face paint and it’s not a pretty picture.
    And that’s the ones that are left who aren’t immediately disqualified for being fatasses.

    2. I would say that blonde color hair is at least more pleasing to the eyes than neon green or Ronald McDonald red.

    3. Yes about the hair. But the worst is those fucken nails women do. Dipping their fingers in straight up mutagens, carcinogens and neurotoxins, passing on genetic damage to future offspring all for colorful nails. Again and again and again. Putting stuff on your skin is like drinking it.

    1. fucking agree….. Ashton got sold a pup…. but then again he knew her for years when they were in that 70’s show….. maybe she can suck the chrome off a ball hitch…….

  7. “Always Subtract 40% From Every Woman’s Appearance”
    Well said. That plus there are some new tools in photo augmenting software that can tighten in lots of cellulite.
    Gag Gag is a good example of a female that looks fuckloads less attractive without all the makeup lighting and designed composition.

  8. There are consumer help organisations for this kind of thing. Wake up beside a bird, her face from the night before imprinted on the pillow when she wakes from her slumber….” this is not the sexy, fill lipped, sex pot I met last night” you think…. call the help line….1800 Coyote-Ugly…..

  9. “When women reach a threshold level of attractiveness, the world becomes
    easier, more exciting and more indulgent of them.”
    This is exactly the root of female narcissism, the poison in our societies.
    But what does strike me the most, is that in a lot of animal species, it’s the male who has physical features to attract (more colors, feathers, horns, and other stuff) but with humans, it’s exactly the contrary, it’s the female who use all physical enhancers (makeup, heels, dresses, hair …) not for just attracting a partner (if only !) but to gain this advantage of the world looking at them and giving positive feedback.
    what a fucking distorsion of their animal instinct.

    1. “But what does strike me the most, is that in a lot of animal species, it’s the male who has physical features to attract”
      Well actually, it’s up to you to have the physical features to attact: hit the gym hard, groom well and if really necessary get plastic surgery.

      1. You’re perfectly right Mike, for us, it’s our duty to recover our features by hitting the gym and get better health routines. Females inherits those benefits automaticaly and men must build/improve themselves up to get at the “same” level. I pity all the men who have not yet understand this !

        2. and not shy away from lifting weights. “weight don’t make women bulky, donuts and starbucks make women bulky” as a meme i once saw said.

        5. A (platonic) friend of mine is a 5’4″ Chinese girl who weighs about 110 pounds. She actually wants to GAIN weight so her tits will be bigger. I told her to do push ups but go easy on gaining fat because it will just end up on her stomach, ass and thighs.

        8. Haha. She just got happily married to a Scottish guy. I’m not into cutting other guys’ grass, although I did take a run at her when it looked like they were breaking up.

        9. One side-benefit of hitting gym and becoming better physically : expectation about female appearance tend to rise. Therefore a lot of them are discarded… or put to the place they belong really… some kind of automatic female Depedestalization.

        10. yes lazy and therefore bad for a long investment because they will degrade physically with time

      2. I would only say plastic surgery if you were in a terrible accident and need to restore you to somewhat normal or recognizable of a human feature. Otherwise, that’s just pure vanity.

        1. Im in NYC. You wouldnt believe the amount of down syndrome looking plastic surgery idiots walking around. Youre not foolin anybody sweetheart.

        1. Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise had mild plastic surgeries. That’s how they went from average Joes to sex symbol getting freebies from everyone.
          I think men should consider it if they have crooked teeth, ugly nose or any other mild aestethic default.

        3. But you get the general idea: stop whining about getting freebies because of their physique. Improve yours and your own freebies

    2. Well, if you look into the history of most of what women used, men used it first. Turns out we are still quite attractive without that stuff so we never took them back. Wigs, make-up, heels, all made for men by men originally. Now, men focus on physical presence, posture, voice, and social dominance to demonstrate our attractiveness while women focus on what we’ve discarded knowing their strongest years of beauty will be in their twenties.
      Despite what you say, the endurance of the male beauty still places human males as the holders of beauty. We only exalt female beauty as men don’t control sex.

      1. fortunaly we discarded all that stuff !
        And you’re right, physical presence, posture, voice, social dominance are the features (plus good physical/dynamic/muscular appearance) we must develop to be at the level. And even with that, we’ll still be despised by narcisstic-ill females

      3. “Well, if you look into the history of most of what women used, men used it first.”
        You are correct- take credit cards for example…

    3. It’s not that long ago that mean stopped wearing wigs. Also high heels is something that came from the nobility. Egyptian men wore makeup and exuberant clothing. It’s only since the first world war that men started to cut their hair very short. Clothing has become so much more less detailed.
      Did you notice big loud prints are also out of fashion since a year? Also shoulder pads are now gone. I still remember my mother wearing them

      1. I have an awful lot of photos from the 19th century that have men with short hair. I think the trend started then actually, whereas the 18th century and prior long hair was all the rage. At least in the States, perhaps Europe was different, which wouldn’t surprise me.

      2. My mother wore them too…such a bizarre thing.
        God, women are stupid.
        Also, only dandy boy aristocrat fags wore wigs, not average joes.

  10. see, when i first saw the mila-without makeup photo, i thought “bad picture of an attractive woman.” same thing with the pretty blond in the last picture (although come on, even the pic on the left isn’t that bad).
    the same person can look wildly different in photos depending on angle and lighting. hell, i sometimes find myself looking in the mirror and thinking “i wish i really looked like that.” in certain lighting, i look quite toned and athletic, especially when i’m a little dehydrated or have just finished a workout. i can look like i have a pretty typical dad bod on the same day in different lighting and/or after a big meal.
    delicious tacos (a prophet for our times) explained how this works best:
    http://delicioustacos.com/2015/05/31/reader-mailbag-what-is-your-workout/

    1. Skin color makes a huge difference too. You will always look 50% better when tanned (face and body).
      The darker the skin tone the more defined and athletic the body appears.
      Thou shalt beware of women you meet under the hot summer sun! Within a couple of weeks she could look 2 points worse.

  11. Good article. The before and after pictures are shocking. I didn’t realize ladies were so makeup dependent.

  12. Good shit! This definitely helps you realize that women are just human beings, not something to be pedestalized as you say. So next time you see a fine ass bitch, take her down a notch, knowing she’s not that hot. In the mean time, keep looking for unicorns, the type of woman who looks amazing sans makeup.

  13. The basic rule I follow is the following. Don’t talk to women who wear pounds of make-up. You are guaranteed to be disappointed.
    In Europe, generally, the women don’t wear a whole lot of make-up.

    1. Leave the clowns for the circus and treat them for what they are, passing entertainment.

    2. By the way, I think it was Virginia Postrel in the Substance of Style, who writes about the earliest use of cosmetics which date back to the Silk Road. So, women have been doing for quite some time.

  14. The other problem with women who ware lots of make-up is that it destroys the bed pillow covers the next morning…all stained an off brown color combined with pink passion lip stick, not a pretty picture. And of course these types of girls never stay around to do the washing up either…so you have clean up everything yourself…no avoid them…and do what I did years ago and stay relatively self reliant.

    2. Run like mad in the other direction. If she’s not washing it off before sleep, say hi to a host of bad skin conditions and premature aging.

    3. plus its makes their faces age way faster. putting synthetic gunk on ur skin everyday is so bad for it. doing the full face once in a while for special occasions or a night out is fine but not every day. imo a girl shouldn’t wear more then eyeliner, brow pencil & mascara on the average day.
      i think girls gotta put some effort in though. unkempt brows are disgusting and going out at night or to a special event with zero make up looks childish imo

  16. This is all about lying, deceiving and entrapping men. And yet again, it comes down to resource extraction. The better she “looks” the higher value (i.e. more money for her ugly pussy) man she can get. Always think money/resources and it all falls into place. It’s all about that. Nothing more and nothing less.

    1. Did you discover that today? For men a woman is a resource as well. It’s her pussy (and her big mouth which unfortunately never stops cackling.)

      1. Did not discover that today sir. Point was women deceive whereas men must provide resources. If they don’t, they’re out. There is a little nuance there if you get my drift..

        2. I know a janitor who found a bag of cocks by the ladies’ room at the club. Guess it belongs to her. Should be no trouble recognising her next time she comes by so he can return her bag of cocks.

  19. No woman is truly hot until you have awakened next to her and her makeup is rubbed off, she takes a growler, you have a coffee and she starts yap flapping about all the stupid, vapid shit she has planned for her boring day, and you still get a boner and want to bang her.

  20. [quote]These beauty routines are also designed to improve her own confidence and perception of herself and are not only about enchanting you.[/quote]
    Goes to show why women in this narcisstic self esteem obsessed generation, care so much about confidence, its because they have none. If youre relying on face paint to get a short term bloated ego, you really got to put in work in other areas in your life to get. Like work,sport,hobby or some type of competition or even meditating on desensitizing yourself of hardship, a more stoic nature perhaps.

  23. The most shocking, yet smallest, part of the change in appearance is a girl having eye-shadow vs. not.
    IOW, you know you want a girl if she still looks good without eye-shadow.

  24. I want you to hold my p enis while I u rinate in deference to your lesser position then I want you to give ti a shake and suck off the pee droplets with your mouth.

  25. Here’s a Numerical rating system I use, (Using Mean mathematics)
    Physical Appearance value + Behavioral patterns value = Actual desirability Rating , So you see a beautiful woman who’s a solid 10 in Physical Appearance, and you study her for a little bit and find out she is a soul-less bitch so her behavioral patterns are valued at 1, you add the Mean to get a Actual desirability rating of a 5, “Oh but she’s a solid 10 Man who cares about anything else”, Let me just say that I have personally witnessed High value Physical appearance women who are Rabid and evil, who have destroyed their husbands Friendships and affected family relations, always add into the Factor her Behavioral Patterns, it can save you a lot of future Pain and Headaches.

    1. There is their appearance, then their performance in bed and related things, and then their behavior outside of the bedroom, which can be broken down further.
      .
      A big factor is whether being with her in public adds to your social value. Being naturally good-looking is the ideal but if she cleans up well then friends, social acquaintances and business contacts will be suitably impressed. . . as long as she is not a stupid cunt bitch or some combination.
      .
      Similarly, when you are not fucking, having passable good looks is enough but a pleasant demeanor or being a good conversationalist becomes the ideal.
      .
      In bed, the difference between a 7 and a 9 in terms of looks adds little more than bragging rights. It’s more important that they are responsive, willing to please, and perhaps a bit freaky (YMMV) so that it is a boatload of fun rather than a hate fuck or a chore.
      .
      PS: There is no such thing as a “solid 10”. It is a precarious status if it exists at all.

      1. Your Right about the bedroom, If she’s not doing it right for you and as a result Sex became boring….then that’s pretty Bad…..Definitely a factor to add in there for sure, I think Behavioral is just as important as appearance though, Like I said i’ve seen guys who made the “Dude but she’s so hot” mistake and wind up with a Nut-Job.

  26. The trick about make up is for it to look like they are not actually wearing any. The first thing that turns me off is a bunch of gunk on their eyes, cheeks and lips. At a minimum, it can’t be excessive. The last girl, above, could go a bit easier on the mascara but otherwise that is a good example of what I am talking about. Gaga’s example isn’t too bad but you have to account for it probably being a live show (stage actors look ridiculous up close in their makeup but would appear as a blotch to the audience without makeup).

  27. This presents a good reason to give up night game in favour of day game and pick up chicks in the gym or joggers in the park.

  29. ??? Putting on MAKE-UP is an ART! That’s why women with make-up channels get MILLIONS of views on how to put it on. You wear it without looking like a clown! It’ an art! Just as any MAN or WOMAN puts on CLOTHES that accentuate their features! Shoulder pads, well fitting pants! Make-up is in the SAME category! A man who is comfortable with himself, in my opinion, will not be overly shocked when a woman removes her face paint. If her body is banging, that’s all you be banging! You ain’t f*cking her face! >:I

        3. “You’ve never given your boyfriend a blowjob Ross-Ann?” – – – Don’t have one, perhaps you can share your experience, dear, english-Barbara. o.O

    2. You ain’t fucking her face? When you asses her overall attractiveness her face plays a big role in determining if she has good genetic material. Since make up can fake neotenous features (eyes appear larger, cheekbones etc) and make the skin appear of better quality that IS important when you are going to have sex with her.
      Same goes for men of course. The guys with the rounder faces (opposed to longer faces) have less testosterone most of the times. Women instinctively know this and depending of their menstrual cycle find that attractive or not.
      Shoulderpads? That’s a remnant of the eighties man. Who wears those anymore.

  30. I’ve personally seen this as well. Couple of my old friends growing up dated some girls like this. Of course being young and dumb I never thought about it…until I saw them one day without makeup. Holy shit talk about an eye opener! One went from a 4 to a 2 and the other went from like a 2 to a 0.
    Now that I’m aware of this rule I play a game whenever I’m out. See a girl with makeup caked on? Let’s guess how she looks without it. I get suspicious if I see a girl with anything more than some stuff on around her eyes.

  31. Great advice. I came to similar conclusions a while ago too. We need to stop putting “attractive” women on a pedestal, because quite often, they are not even really attractive without their makeup. Meanwhile, men don’t need makeup. The attractive sex is actually us!

  32. Maybe it is a Canadian thing, but if you need a musical accompaniment when discussing this thread, then you need some Trooper and Northern Pikes:
    .
    TROOPER: “3 Dressed Up As A 9”
    .
    Hey wait a minute; Who do you think you are
    Comin’ on, comin’ on; Like you’re some kinda movie star
    .
    Wearing twelve hundred dollars; D’ecollet’e
    You looked a whole lot better to me; From twenty feet away
    .
    You’re just a 3 dressed up as a 9; You’re only, wastin’ my time
    A 3 dressed up as a 9, hey yeah…
    (All dressed up but you’re only a 3, a 3 dressed up as a 9)
    .
    Socially; You know you fit in just right
    But as for me; I’m gonna have to pass tonight
    .
    Well you can say what you like; Be what you wanna be
    You can suit yourself, baby; But you don’t suit me
    .
    You’re just a 3 dressed up as a 9; You’re only, wastin’ my time
    A 3 dressed up as a 9, hey yeah…
    (All dressed up but you’re only a 3, a 3 dressed up as a 9)
    .
    NORTHERN PIKES: “She Ain’t Pretty”
    .
    I had two jobs, I had dishwater hands
    And on the weekend in a rock ‘n’ roll band
    One Friday night in my hometown bar
    In walked a girl who looked like a movie star
    .
    She stared at me and it was turning me on
    She said she worked in a beauty salon
    I heard a voice inside me say
    She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way
    .
    We made a date to go for a drink
    I wore my jeans and she wore a mink
    There was this misconception all over town
    That she ate lonely guy heart by the pound
    .
    She said “Take me home, there won’t be no fuss”
    I said “Sure you got some change for the bus”
    Watching her leave I heard the bartender say
    “She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way”
    .
    So, I called her up, her father was home
    “Son, she’s busy she can’t come to the phone”
    I held my breath then decided to wait
    A guy like me doesn’t get many dates
    .
    I fell in love with a model from hell
    It took some time for my hormones to tell
    That chasing her has been a grave mistake
    She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way
    .
    Her ego wrote checks incredibly fast
    But her personality didn’t have the cash
    I laughed out loud to my total dismay
    She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way
    She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way
    She ain’t pretty; She ain’t pretty; She ain’t pretty;
    She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way

  33. Holy crap, earlier this year I was at a music festival. I meet this girl and we dance together for the last act, and we make plans to meet up the next day. All of my friends and I thought she was attractive, I kid you not the next day she turned into a complete troll. Acne, weird ass piercings, you name it. I don’t know if it was the drugs and booze from the night before but I’ve never had my shit rocked so hard until that moment.
    Be careful out there, it’s a fucking battle zone.

    2. It was probably dark too. Darkness induces dreams. She was your dream girl until the sun came up…

  34. Most women you find in outdoor activities lean towards the natural side. Let that be a guide. Most mall wenches or club beaters have enough face paint on to deceive you. Women with natural beauty do NOT need makeup, they are easy to spot. College dorms the first year were a real eye opener for me, could not believe how the beauty queens at 11 pm looked like such hags at 7 am. Scary.

  37. How will real women compete with VR, in light of this?
    9s and 10s are immune, but how many women are 9s and 10s, that too without cosmetics?

    2. They only could if they became real women and learned to cook and clean. Of course banging the hot VR girl will still be more satisfying than the fugly normal girl.

      1. Real woman no longer cook and clean, or didn’t you know that? Plus real women fart, extract money from you, and can file a false accusation against you.
        VR surpasses all women who are 7s or lower. As this article proves, very few women are higher than 7 without male-invented cosmetics…

  38. So most of the female attractiveness in the world is the creation of men. Men invented cosmetics, push-up bras, breast augmentations, high-heels, dentistry, hair removal, etc. So female beauty in a modern sense is a creation of male inventions…
    I bet if we went to the 19th century, almost no women would be more than a 6 by today’s standards. The few aristocrat chicks that may have been higher are never visible to the outside…

    1. You really think that? In the 19th century women were women too. They were in better shape, wore corsets, used way more perfume. If they could afford it that is. Of course after a certain age (35) your and their teeth would fall out, but ok, by then you were long married.

      1. Apex fallacy. What you describe is the aristocracy, which was under 1% of the population.
        Most of the other 99% was the peasant class, with no dentistry, perfume, or hair removal. Almost none would be higher than a 6 by our scale today.

        1. In the 19th century, most of the other 99% was middle class and lower class actually, with large segments in the middle class. So his statement was accurate. Had he said “14th century” though, your quip might have been relevant.

        2. Dude, about 99% of the people in the 19th century (including America and Britain) would have been considered quite poor by today’s standards. This is easy to look up.
          They did not have dentistry, easy hair removal, makeup, etc. Most women did hard labor or started having kids at 18 or younger.
          If you really think average people in the 19th century were ‘middle class’ by today’s standards you are stunningly ignorant.

        3. Which is why you do not use today’s standards to measure the events of time passed. Kings of Old, even Aelfred the Great, would look at my air conditioned, well provisioned, central heat, window containing, comfortable, heavily armed with advanced weaponry he could not of dreamed of, non-drafty home with unrestrained avarice, compared to what he lived in. A king. This is why making comparisons across time is futile. That doesn’t mean that he wasn’t a powerful, rich ol’ bastard in his own day though and by the standards of the time.
          They did not have dentistry, easy hair removal, makeup, etc. Most women did hard labor or started having kids at 18 or younger.
          Actually, they had dentistry, and rather competent dentistry at that, and makeup (which dates back to the ancient Egyptians). Most women did *not* do hard labor (that’s a leftist myth), though yes, they stayed home and had children. Imagine that. I collect antique paper ephemera, as well as 19th century cameras and other antiques from that era. I have a bit of a clue what I’m talking about here.
          If you really think average people in the 19th century were ‘middle class’ by today’s standards you are stunningly ignorant.
          Nice straw man. Where did I say “by today’s standards”?
          Both America and Britain had a huge and growing middle class in their time, for their time, as recognized by every historian who has ever lived in the 20th century and beyond. What that has to do with today is beyond me.

        5. Again, more apex fallacy.
          Per capita GDP, inflation adjusted, rose 10x in the US and Britain over the 20th century.
          Dentistry was competent? Dutch Pride above correctly points out that most people started losing teeth at age 35.
          30-40% of children died before age 5 as recently as 1890.
          19th century cameras? Owned by 0.01% of the population. More apex fallacy.
          Read ‘How we got to now’ by Stephen Johnson. I guarantee that if you were transported to the US or Britain circa 1880 (135 years ago), and had to live the life of not even a median person but someone in the 80th percentile, you would be begging to return to 2015.
          Less than 1% of the people (aristocrats) had a life that would be seen as ‘good’ by the average people today.

        6. You’re not going to let it go are you?
          Dentistry, yes. That people didn’t take care of their teeth has nothing to do with the state of dentistry. Christ, dude, go take some history lessons. Even George Washington had dental care, after a sort, long before the 19th century. Perfect? No. But not “did not have” as you claim. You’ve erred on this point.
          30-40% of children died before age 5 as recently as 1890.
          Non-sequitur. What that has to do with dentistry I’m not entirely certain.
          19th century cameras? Owned by 0.01% of the population. More apex fallacy.
          Actually owned by many in the middle class, it was a popular hobby at the time. You don’t seem to actually know what “apex fallacy” means do you? It means judging the whole based on 1%. Basically you’re claiming that only 1% of the entire populations of Britain or the U.S. in the 19th century were above lower class (since we’re talking middle class here). That is ludicrous. Middle class made up around 20% of the populations in the 19th century, working class falling below them who made up a bulk of the population and who were migrating, or eventually migrated to middle class, and then the actual true lower classes and poor and indigent.
          be seen as ‘good’ by the average people today.
          Which has fuck all to do with my point. See “King Aelfred” above.
          You’ve got this whole “1%er!” attitude which reeks a bit of the Leftist indoctrination I endured in college. You clearly don’t know the actual numbers of the period, and reject anything except “1%” as “apex fallacy”. You continue to judge “middle class” by 2015 standards instead of the standards of the time, which is silly. There really is no point in continuing the discussion, quite frankly.

        7. You’re not going to let it go are you?
          Well, you are exhibiting considerable ignorance, which needs to be corrected.
          Even George Washington had dental care, after a sort, long before the 19th century.
          Again, apex fallacy. What about the other 99.9% of people? George Washington was among the richest men of his time.
          What that has to do with dentistry I’m not entirely certain.
          It has to do with the ubiquitous POVERTY of the time. Duh!!
          Actually owned by many in the middle class, it was a popular hobby at the time.
          You can’t be this ignorant. The average person in 1880 had a camera? Bzzzzt. Wrong.
          What you call ‘middle class’ is still the top 1%. You are confused between percentiles vs. absolute levels of prosperity (which were very low a century ago relative to today).
          There really is no point in continuing the discussion, quite frankly.
          Translation : Your ignorance has been exposed, and you are desperate to retreat.
          Economic growth over the 20th century was 10x. To earn a day’s worth of non-processed food took 12x more hours of work in 1880 than it takes in 2015. You many not understand what has been explained to you, but at this point, the facts I am presenting is for others.
          Most women in 1880 (as in, the bottom 99% not in the aristocracy) would have looked rather plain today, and almost none would have been higher than a 7 by today’s standards. Roosh has said the same thing as well, in his 1955 vs. 2015 article (and we are talking about the 19th century, which was far more primitive than 1955).

        8. tl;dr. Ok. There is no talking to you. You’re right, all times, all places. I’ll throw away my books, photos and papers. Thank you for helping me understand. Merci.

  39. Tbh I found the girl in the last image to be very attractive, even sans make up, clear skin, even features a genuine sweet smile. What’s not to like?

    1. Even when everybody was cooing all over that she was “hot”, she wasn’t. At least from pictures I’ve seen.

  41. I remember reading somewhere that if you were infatuated with a woman,imagine her on the toilet taking a dump and then decide if you still think she’s hot.

  42. If you live nearby the coast you can take ’em to the beach and see what’s behind those layers of makeup. Here, in Venezuela, we use that “tactic”. If you invite her after the first date to the beach, and she refuses, you know there’s some pretty dark shit hidden…

  43. There are a few races with sufficient sexual dimorphism to withstand the stripping of make-up – Dutch, Germanic and Scandi girls tend to look good the morning after.
    In the UK, natural beauties are incredibly rare. Take their current ‘it girl’ Cara Delivagina.
    With face made-up she is a smokeshow, without it she looks like the kind of grease-laden wench you would find working the morning shift in a KFC in Slough.

    1. She’s obviously goofing in that photo, plus it’s a bad angle. Here is a more accurate representation of her sans cosmetics.

      1. Those eyebrows and upper eyelids definitely have make up on them. And above her eyes you see red eyeshadow. What a fallacy to think that she would ever walk amongst those cameras without makeup.

        1. Yup. She is wearing foundation, blush, eyeshadow, mascara and eyebrow powder/pencil. Just because she’s not wearing lipstick and she has professionally applied makeup doesn’t mean she looks like this naturally.

    2. All those countries speak Germanic languages. English, Dutch, Germanic and Skandi Those are all so mixed from different tribes (ok the Norwegians and Swedish less) but you could just say the mainland Caucasians look indeed better without make up. The English is indeed a complete different story. I’ve never been to England, but from what I see those women are fat foul pigs. It’s probably because of the inbreeding.

      1. The royalty inbred, not the entire populace. In fact, the royalty is/was basically the same royalty for most of Europe, as I’m certain you’re aware. The average Englishmen no more comes from inbred stock any more than the average Dutch gentleman. It might happen, but given the relative population size and village proximity to other villages, I’d even say that the chances are about the same in either case.

  45. 40%? Maybe for celebrities.
    L: basic makeup
    R: no cosmetics
    Does it really look THAT different? Not really fellas.

  47. I’m an older man and it’s heartening to realize that young guys have access to knowledge now from men like Roosh that is took me years and trial and error to acquire. Very good article..it’s key to understanding women’s sense of themselves. You must always place doubt in her hamster brain that she is “less than perfect”. The minute she realizes that you worship her, the worse it will be for you over time in the relationship.

  48. There are very few true beauties per the female population but they do exist. A true beauty is usually, of course, a young woman who has a natural beautiful complexion and doesn’t even need makeup to produce a boner in a man. She is athletic with no cellulite and a natural hardbody/athletic/slim body. She also has naturally beautiful hands and feet ( very important) and lustrous thick hair. I’d say, of women aged 18 – 27, only one in 70 to 100 would fall into this category. They are highly prized. They come from good stock/breeding as their parents are usually attractive. They’re out there but few and far between. My goal is to marry one.

    2. Rob, you make an excellent point, and as a woman, I fully agree with what you say. It’s perfectly logical that a man would feel attracted to a naturally beautiful woman, someone in good shape, with healthy hair, teeth and skin, well-fit, etc. I wholeheartedly agree with this, as this is how we humans are wired, to see certain qualities as attractive and other traits as less attractive (i despise those whales claiming that ‘all women are beautiful’- no they’re not).
      However, I just want to make a point, and then a question.
      You mention that you’re into marrying a ‘hot’ chick one day- that’s fine. But, what do you have to offer to a woman like that? A beautiful woman who comes from a genetic pool of looks and physical proportions and fitness?
      The manosphere tells us that women should capitalize off their looks, youth and fertility (super with me), while men get ‘prized’ according to their power, wealth, education, achievements, status, high-powered jobs etc.
      I perfectly agree with this- a powerful man will most naturally seek the best he can have, and a beautiful, attractive young woman will definitely use these nature-given advantages to secure a good partnership for herself.
      Nevertheless, I sense that the majority of men in the manosphere do not have those manly qualities to place them in the position of wanting highly attractive women.
      Are you an investment banker, an international athlete, a high-powered businessman? What university did you go to, what did you achieve in your professional life?
      I love Roosh, for example, and agree with everything he says. But i feel like he’s teaching men to go after the hottest thing out there without actually having anything to offer in return. Pretending to be ‘alpha’ and ‘gaming’ girls to sleep with them is as deceitful and tragic as girls who pretend to be ‘good’ and loving and all that, who then reveal their true selves (sluts, single mothers, criminal convictions, etc.) in a relationship. Roosh might be a ‘guru’ and again, everything he professes is absolutely right, but he, as a person, as a man, has nothing to offer to a highly attractive woman in exchange for marriage. Perhaps his family is wealthy, but him as an individual has made a ‘career’ by running seminars and websites on how to ‘fuck chicks’. That’s not what attracts highly beautiful, ‘clean’ women into partnerships. He might bang hot Ukrainians and Colombians who dream of a green card in the US, but he will definitely not marry a beauty because he has nothing to offer in return.
      Perhaps some author on this website could consider this aspect food for thought and write an article on it, to enlighten the minds of women in this regard. If I am beautiful, young, not a slut, no tattoos, no drinking, I live with my parents, willing to form a family, loyal, physically fit, etc. ….then what do YOU have to offer for that?
      In the same manospherian logic, shouldn’t men who have no careers and nothing to offer in this regard just be content with washed-off party girls, so that the pretty ones get to be with powerful, successful men?

  49. French women are worse than plain without their paints, scents, and costumes. Dutch women can be plan, but what you see is true and always there. Yet, it is the French female who has crafted an international reputation for beauty. A paradox.

    1. French women, German or Dutch. It’s more of the same. There is a small time window these where women are actually pretty without makeup. And it’s usually between 15 and 25. After that they need makeup to fake the times lost.

    2. French beauty is overrated anyway. Compared to Greek, Italian and Spanish women, French women are very ordinary in the looks department and they are nasty bitches too.

  51. A woman who has fornicated or had children outside wedlock or anyone who practics homofagism should not be allowed to warp children in the classroom

  52. the current girl I’m dating is not super hot, but she is sweet and has a great personality and she doesn’t wear make-up when we meet.
    I wonder how she’ll look like when she does once

    1. The more important question you should ask yourself is this:
      “If you are not worth effort to dress super hot and wear her best makeup NOW – what do you think she will do for you when you are together a few years?”

  55. Is it just me? I get aroused when she wears nice makeup and puts on sexy clothes… even if without them she’s not nearly as hot.

    1. Thats perfectly normal for a regular guy. It is when you get used to sexy cloths, hot underwear and you expect your woman (women) to dress super hot every single time you fuck them; it gets stale. You simply get used to it to the degree that it looses 90% of its effect.
      It is THEN that fake or not starts to count.
      “The hungry man wants to eat, no matter what. Once he got used to having food every day, after a while, he will start to care for things like taste, protein or fat. ”
      For 99% of males (many readers/posters here included) this will never be a problem.

  56. Fundamentally, no woman is truly hot until you’ve seen her in the shower
    A prime reason to demand a Shower On The First Date policy. To weed out the fakes. At least that’s what I used to tell chicks.

    1. I think all women should be naked, just like Ferengi women in Star Trek.
      Men are so more honest. We are WYSIWYG. We send dickpics, we are THAT honest!

      1. Heh. Well, I wouldn’t go that far. All women *with potential* should be naked, clearly. Those we can tell right out of the gate that they are fugly can, nay…must, stay clothed. I’m pointing at you Lena Dunham.

        2. That Lena Dunham is disgusting. I nowadays see so many women who look like her. Fat, resting bitchface, all covered with tats. All 4’s thinking they are 8’s.

        3. 4’s? You’re a very generous man, I’ll give you that.

        4. Well, could also be a 3 indeed. Dunham doesn’t have a malformed face, but considering that she doesn’t really have potential even when slim with long hair a 4 is indeed too high.
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/013e190c96dacdaabab86e718e216cb87706fdc087d4976278179772e8bfc24c.jpg
          This picture is one of the better ones, I would call that a 5. not too fat, long hair. But we all know that she doesn’t look like that in reality. It looks like a different person.

        5. She is a 4 with beer goggles maybe. The kind of goggles you get after drinking 20 beers and suffering from an extreme dry spell 😉

        6. Uhm, I think a 5 would be a fair assessment. Even if she’s not fat, she has man shoulders, small breasts and a thick neck. Zero bone structure, a large nose and thin, puckered-up sour lips. Nothing to see here. Not totally unfortunate- looking, but with the face of a construction worker’s wife.

        7. It’s these kind of women that go sour the quickest. One moment you see them at age 22 and you think “fine for a drunk night, just pump ‘m dump”. And then three years later you see them and you’re like “WTF happened here?” I rub my eyes not believing what I see. Suddenly all that was left of her looks is completely gone and she gained 10 kilo’s. The wrinkles kicked in and the skin has the structure of a pancake. The hair definitely is dyed with split ends. I can go on and on. Baseline is: she let herself go and doesn’t care anymore, not that she had potential. Laziness, smoking, bad food, drinking. Sooner or later you pay for that.

        8. It’s not just that. I find it quite amusing (in a ‘darling’ way) that men seem to be convinced that the only things a woman needs to qualify as beautiful is to be well-fit, to have feminine forms (breasts, etc.), no hideous deformity and long hair. That’s it.
          If you look at what differentiates Eastern European women, Scandinavian women and Latin-American women (some…) from girls like the one above, it isn’t the hair length, the cup size or the fact that they’re thinner (which they are, but that’s highly controllable).
          It is the bone structure. The symmetry of facial features, length and prominence of the cheek bones, existence of chin, proportionate, naturally-regulated teeth, size and color of the eye, width of the orbital bone, etc., etc.
          Pretty much….genetics. Some women are prettier than others. Some women, no matter how much they work out, or how long their hair is (case in point- the picture above), would still be unattractive. Imagine that chick in the photo having waist-long hair and a thin, busty figure. Would that make her beautiful, heck no. She just doesn’t have a cute, sweet and feminine face. In contrast, even a fat, short-haired beautiful girl would be much prettier than this one, and her features would transcend the passage of time. You can lose weight, you can let your hair grow- but you can’t change an ugly mug.

        9. Yes, the neotenous features are absent with Dunham. She has a big head without definition. It’s indeed all about genetics.
          Sometimes I see ugly women being pregnant and I just can’t understand why a man would want to have sex with something like that. I’m astounded that there are men who clearly never made an agreement with themselves. “I’m going to be a dad only when I can impregnate a 7+” How about giving your children a head start in life, it begins with looks.

        10. I swear I think the exact same thing!!! I see some awfully ugly pregnant women, and I think ‘a man had an erection in this woman’s physical presence!!! He even had an orgasm!! ‘
          Why would someone dip into a genetic pool of ‘ugly’?I mean, repulsively non-feminine ugly, like this chick?
          I’m happy you’re a normal male, Dutch!!! ^.^

  57. As the patron saint of the manosphere, Esther Vilar said; the reason women make such a big deal of the need for men to be honest is that lying is only effective if some people don’t lie.

  58. Who the hell still names their daughter Bernice? Why not Brunhilda while you’re at it?

    1. Bill Burr is a hypocrite. Married some snatch even after all his red pill preaching. Probably got an ultimatum and gave in.

  60. the last chick doesn’t look half-bad! one chin… all of her front teeth… hair that isn’t shaved.

  62. You used stupid comparisons. The Northern European women look fine even without makeup. It’s the swarthoid trolls that look horrific.

  63. You guys, sorry to say but who’s ‘guilty’ of going after tits, tight dresses and hair extension bimbos?
    If you guys see that the chick wears three coats of makeup and looks like a stripper, no wonder she’s going to look like Dracula when sunlight hits her. It’s logic.

  64. There was a comedian a few years back had a good joke.I think its Jim Jeffries. His joke was “why do girls wear makeup and perfume”?…. “because they’re ugly and they smell.” I know its all in the delivery but it makes you wonder. Im not gay but I noticed a weird phenomenon that came to my attention. You take the average guy, he looks like a guy right? BUT you take the average chick and see what she looks like without makeup and its pretty fucking scary. Remarkably scary.. Shitty skin, blemishes, zits, dark circles you name it.mostly scarier than guys look.
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/33-startling-photos-of-pornstars-with-and-without-their-make#.dgVvPVlj2
    Women complain about unrealistic beauty standards. Dont blame the “patrirchy” . Blame the gay run fashion industry! Blame the gay/ jew run hollywood celebrity culture media outlets. Women have literally painted themselves into a corner with makeup now that the secrets and techiques are now more readilly available. Its now that they have to maintain these self imposed beauty standardsthat THEY embraced and pay through the nose to maintain.

    1. I’ve also noticed the same thing in the animal kingdom. Birds, for instance. The males always have bright and attractive colors while the females are very dull looking.

    2. A nearby Amish town, many of their young women are attractive even though they don’t wear makeup. But of course, they aren’t destroying their bodies with drinking, fucking and fatty foods.

  66. fatness and obesity is that one thing women cant cover up so thats why the fat acceptance exists so they can try and delude men with an indicator that nature has already placed to tell men “get the fuck away from this bitch”
    ive been saying this for years though, a woman with make up is not beautiful it’s the make up that u find beautiful and u should be thanking the make up artists they deserve the credit not her parents

  68. A lot of women are downright hideous without makeup. That’s why it has always been a feminine thing, and women are rightfully insecure about their looks.

  71. You’re so full of shit, lol. I seriously wonder about your mental health. 60% less attractive? Do you think that your opinion equals some kind of objective analysis?Take the Gaga photo. To me, she looks a lot better without makeup. Your opinion – and mine – is completely meaningless. Your point is meaningless too. Women don’t look as good as their made up faces would imply? Wow. Who would have thought. Because, you know, they’re human beings, not sex objects. They aren’t put here for your sexual gratification.

    1. then why do women spend billions every year on makeup and high heels? They want to be objectified. If they don’t get attention from men they go crazy. That’s partially why 1/3 of all women over 35 are on anti-depressants

  72. My wife of 22 years never wore make up and still doesn’t. Oil of Old Lady is the only beauty item in the bathroom. Find a honest one boys.

  73. That last blonde chick is naturally cute. Granted she looks a lot better made up, but a pic of me with messed up hair, squinting with bad light looks bad, too. She’s cute.

  74. This is why is you’re looking for a serious relationship you need to be sure you’ve seen her without the slapped on face paint first.
    Another piece of advice is look at her mother. The likelihood that she will age and end up looking similar is fairly high. If you can, before you wife someone up, look at her older Female relations. With one ex lover I considered having a long term relationship with, that was a deciding factor, as it appeared aging hideously and depending on make-up by their early 30’s was a family trait. Saw her in town a while ago and I was right there.
    If you’re not looking for a long term thing, it’s still important, I’ve known women who go along with everything, but when you’re about to bang them, they take off their make-up as well as their clothes (Though I can’t see why) and you can see that they are easy because it’s rare that anyone gives a chance.

  75. Imagine if you spent the time it took to write this unimpressive article at a historical museum or something? You could be so much smarter and a much better writer!

  76. I woke up one time years ago next to the woman beside from the night before and i almost asked if she wanted to shave her mustache with me in the shower but i thankfully didn’t since i was poor and only had one good shave left on my razor. These days its not just the makeup but the attitude of all the cows with tattoos that think they are something by tagging themselves like some farm animal.

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