In this digital age, the appeal of Tinder to guys seems pretty obvious. Here is an app that offers a seemingly endless supply of potential sexual partners to be accessed with a simple swipe to the right – an apparent cornucopia of hot, sexually up-for-it females just ready to be plucked from cyberspace and pulled into your bed.
Of course, anyone who’s spent more than two minutes on the app will be more than aware that this somewhat idyllic portrayal is nonsensical and that pulling on Tinder is not as easy as one might have hoped. Having experimented with it extensively in the last few months I can say categorically that — for me at least — approaching girls in real life is far more effective, yielding better results.
I don’t intend to get to deep into a wider discussion of Tinder and the somewhat bleak prognosis for the state of male-female relations its vast popularity invites — Roosh has covered the same here. But it has to be said that when finding a partner is reduced to a card-shuffling like exercise on your smartphone, where you scroll past one narcissistic image after another, then something isn’t quite right.
My interest here is the efficiency or otherwise of the process for meeting women for sex or relationships. And while some guys are successful with Tinder and there are reputable companies out there who offer advice on how to optimise your chances (I’ve even written a chapter on it in a forthcoming book on text game I’m working on) I would still say that the old-fashioned, face-to-face approach works best.
1. On Tinder You Are Judged Solely on Your Looks…
Don’t have a six-pack, broad shoulders and the smouldering looks of Robert Pattison or Ryan Gosling? Then bad luck — you are in female left-swipe purgatory.
Tinder is fundamentally a visual medium — this was its original USP after all — rather than have to fill in a lengthy profile you simply upload a few pics and you’re away. While initially this might have been seen as attractive by guys — “Hey, I can skip the boring, getting-to-know you bit and just take my pick out the pictures of hot girls” — in fact it is a massive disadvantage.
While it is a fact that women’s SMV (sexual market value) is largely determined by their looks, a man’s is influenced by many other factors including his social dominance, humour, intelligence, gravitas and so on. None of which comes across in that moody five-year-old pic you plucked off Facebook because your mum told you you looked handsome in it.
Your profile description beneath your main picture? Forget it – who has time to read those?
2. While In a Face-To-Face Interaction Your Approach Itself Can Create Attraction
Contrast this with the power of the face-to-face approach. I met an ex-girlfriend of mine, a solid 8, very cute Turkish girl, through daygame on the streets of London. We had several great months together before I got itchy feet and called time on the relationship. Enraged, the girl targeted me with a volley of abuse, including the following insightful nugget:
“If you hadn’t have approached me like you did I would never have gone with you — you’re not even my type.”
Now, granted, she was upset and deliberately trying to hurt me, but I happen to believe that on this she was telling the truth. She had already told me that she when we met she had felt my approach (a direct street-stop) showed “balls.”
It is my belief that the approach in itself created much of her attraction for me as it showed dominance and a tendency to take risks to get what I want. Had she seen my picture on Tinder, however, I’m almost certain I would have been a default left swipe.
3. You Are Limited To Gaming The Girls You Match With
Even if your messaging game is really on-point, because the system only allows you to chat to those girls with whom you’ve matched, then you don’t even get the chance to work your game (and thus potentially positively influence) those girls that you really like.
Contrast this with getting a telephone number from a “maybe” girl in the street. OK, she may not initially be that interested but your text game may just save it — and at least you know you are attracted to her since she promoted you to approach.
4. There Can Often Be A Mismatch Of Expectations
As above, you only really have the pick of girls with whom you match, and of these, only a proportion are going to be looking for the same thing as you. So if you are looking for someone to date, you might find that your matches are those girls looking for covert hook-ups.
And if you are still a young guy looking to experiment and meet a variety of women then you’ll be surprised at the number of girls who are deluded enough to be using Tinder to try to find a serious partner.
Again, the beauty of face-to-face approaching is that this can be determined through a few leading questions at the outset, saving time for both parties.
5. Girls Are Exceptionally Flaky On the App, As They Have So Many Matches
Given how thirsty the male population is, girls — and especially hot girls — get matched by pretty much everyone on Tinder. This means that they are swamped with options. So when you get chatting to a girl, even if your messaging game is stellar, there’s still the likelihood that she’s going tho get distracted by the next shiny thing and stop replying to your messages.
A face-to-face approach, particularly through daygame, creates much more impact, meaning that you stand out from her other male orbiters and you have a fighting chance of commanding her attention for longer.
6 You Never Really Know What You’re Going to Get
Tinder is rather like ordering clothes on the internet — you never know exactly what you’re going to get until it turns up. That t-shirt you thought was perfect online looks baggy and turns out to be made from cheap material when it turns up.
Everyone accentuates their best selves online, and girls are obviously going to put up their best pictures on a dating app. Don’t be surprised when that hot Kate Upton lookalike you thought you were chatting to turns out to be a a less attractive proposition when you meet her for a date in Starbucks.
This is where real-life approaching wins out big time — you only approach those girls who you are attracted to, and with whom there’s a reasonable chance of some chemistry. OK, you may suffer a lot of rejections, but at least with those who bite you know exactly what you’re getting before you invest time on a date.
7. You Invest More Time In Prospects That Were Never Going Anywhere
. . .which leads on to this point. At minimum you are going to have to chat to her for a while on the app, and then perhaps on WhatsApp, before she’ll come out to meet you. When she does, and she isn’t what you are looking for, you will kick yourself for the wasted time. Had you met her in person first through cold-approach you would have known precisely what you were dealing with and apportioned your time appropriately.
In summary, there’s nothing wrong with Tinder as a supplement to your regular game — guys can and do have success on it on a regular basis (a good-looking friend of mine has recently been getting laid on it consistently nearly every night). But for all the reasons listed above, you should never be tempted to make it your primary tool for meeting women.
If you fear rejection then man up, read ROK and other resources, and get out there meeting girls in person anyway. I promise you it will be worth it in the end.
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That last one… Fucking… just kill it with fire. Preferably from an industrial-sized oven.
Haha. The fat would create one extremely hot fire.
We can rend the fat into grease and use it to oil our patriarchy war wagon.
Shiny and chrome!
I think Tinder is great for understanding how much young attractive girls actually are getting laid nowadays, with someone who unfortunatly is not you.
I once created a fake male-model (with Andreas Eriksen) profile on Tinder . Got a huge number of matches and used the worst text game ever and women were throwing themselves to “me” and were willing to come over and fuck straight away and having threesomes. It’s almost mindblowing. It’s pretty much a winner takes it all on Tinder.
I’ve met loads of girls at clubs who tell me that they’re going to see a guy from Tinder later on, so they’ve basically already decided who they’re going to fuck before they’re out now.
True.
ouch. Would be great if there was a tagthesponsor like offshoot where we can see just how easy it is, with the right photos, to make these tramps do whatever
This has been done ad nauseum on bodybuilding.com forums – and they’re hilarious too. Have a search!
thanks! Can’t wait!
How many of those sluts are worth commitment??
And How many guys look like models?
none of the 9’s & 10’s go on date with guys from tinder unless that guy is High SMV.
That’s an interesting experiment.
I have not seen him in a while but there was a poster here called Camel Jockey who created a fake account and grafted his face on some fat chick’s head and body and was getting “hits” from some very thirsty betas. Their text messages were dripping in pathetic. I highly recommend that beta’s be shamed in this way.
I’ve given thought to Tinder though I’ve pretty much had it with dating and women and am just holding out for sexbots at this point. I consider any time spent on Tinder as a safari at this point. At my age, it becomes something of a sport (to be enjoyed with beer) to see woman after woman calling herself “average” when in reality if she went to the beach in a grey outfit, 2000 sailors would try to board her.
Your sexbot comment –
Some feminazis are trying to make sure they never get commercialized as we speak. They pretty much know how much the money tap will dry out once it’s on the market. Can’t deprive the carrousel riders of their retirement plan.
Nice name btw. SOMs rock hard.
“I’ve pretty much had it with dating and women and am just holding out for sexbots at this point.”
basically, brain to computer interfaces that interact with neurons to plug into virtual reality “directly”
Optical vr is just 1 year away, stunningly good optical vr at 8k resolution is 5 years away, but matrix style OMG BRO HOLY SHEEIT vr is like 10-20 years away, this wont be “optical vr” but called
“Neural VR” or “neurally augmented VR” it will debut in 2026 at first
So the evolution of vr, “optical vr” “neural vr” Than Enhanced neural vr will have all the senses”
Already, as a gamer, I see that the artistically rendered worlds are far more interesting and beautiful, as they have gotten more immersive over-time the amount of time i spend playing them has also increased, this probably means the trend will escalate to the point where most of our time is spent in VR, its just going to keep getting better and better, so its very easy to predict
what will happen when any experience possible is an open-source instant download away, designer worlds, with designer personalities in them like GTA but the real thing,
the average iq in the third world is 80-90. in the developed world it’s 100-110, So AI right now is probably only able to do lowIQ work like the level of 60, but it’s capability is increasing every year by 5%. so what happens when cheap AI’s can eventually do the work of someone who had a 130 IQ? What will happen is MASSIVE unemployment
Think about it, Just do basic math, 60 IQ + 5% a year predicts the exact age in which your particular job is worth less than a 10,000$ Robot. That bot can work 24/7 tirelessly and with more accuracy, when it’s exhausted, it doesn’t even charge itself, instead, it has wireless charging, its not only more practical but 5x faster, and that is just a start to the science fiction unemployment world.
I imagine these ai bots will be needed to crew space ships for inter-stellar travel and so on
i imagine people will want to find a way to end the 9-5 grind at that point so they can spend 100% of their time in some VR all based on the progress of bots.
All reality is virtual anyway , it’s just organized particles instead of pixels that the optical nerves interpret and send messages to the brain, why not hack reality itself makes sense to me, almost giving the user a god-like power
if you want to know the future of the computer, basically, you will have contact leses that can do instant VR with wireless neural communication, and also the ability to augment reality with mods, so that reality is never actually “unaugmented”
No one will own a square “cell phone” in their pockets, but instead will have it right in their eyes as a contact lense. Also, these lenses will be able to zoom at 10000X and give you better than 20/20 vision
by this time, not only reality but also intelligence will be augmented giving the user an iq of.. not 100, but closer to 1000,10,000
A sort of “telescopic” intellect that can just maginify on command aswell as a memory of 100000 terabytes. Yes its all coming
Boo!
How old are you Dok?
I started using it last November. Banged a few slags by early January. What turned me off from it was 1) the amount of effort I’d have to put into the chat as opposed to scoring out at night 2) my buddy who pulls on the reg out in public was slaying 4-5 week sometimes 2 or 3 in a day, which leads me to 3) We banged some of the same girls…… No thanks – I’m the only one who gets to say “How do I taste?”
For anyone who doubts the extreme levels of female hypergamy, they only need to look at Tinder.
“Hypergamy” – word guys who can’t get laid use.
And if the definition of “hypergamy” is to want to have sex with attractive partners, then men too are hypergamous. So the whole “women are hypergamous and therefore evil!” meme falls right there.
Men and women are different. But “hypergamy” was a ridiculous way of combating the accusation against men, that we are polygamous. The real defense should have been to explain men’s instincts as shaped by evolution, and point out that men are ALSO monogamous – we have a mix of the two evolutionary strategies.
LOL, ask my girl if I can’t get laid. 😉 That isn’t even the definition of hypergamy. Pull your head out of your ass, kid.
I was implying that the average woman has so many options these days, they have no real reason to settle. The opportunity for a “better,” higher status partner is always there, one swipe away. So all the same girls end up fucking all the same high status men, each girl hoping to bag him. However, since he’s getting tons of pussy, there’s no reason for him to settle either. It’s a funny circle. Try asking for clarification instead of being a dick.
You’re right, and you’re contradicting your first comment.
The girls on Tinder don’t sleep with every guy who likes their pictures, or a large number of men from that application. They are just shopping for attention, and navigate through likes or swipes (I’m not familiar with the whole shebang) in hopes of searching for the hot stud they have already mentally paired themselves with.
It’s not about female polygamy, it’s about female vanity and greed (bag the hunk, preferably rich).
I can attest to this… as a 8+/10 6’2 200 lb male with 9% bf that is constantly compared to Dan Humphrey, I’ve fucked atleast 10 girls within the first hour of meeting them with relatively atrocious game.
At the same time? Fuckin’ A!
You are the wind under my wings…
Haha I wish! It’s really quite easy on tinder if you are aesthetic. I don’t have a great job or high social status but it doesn’t matter because you can project otherwise easily in a few photos. I do fight MMA at amateur level so the whole fighter thing probably helps a lot more than I realize.
At my age I’d have to wrap my dick in 100 dollar bills.
I saw an interview where the guy was a porn producer, and he mentioned all the younger women entering the business are more ready to do it. You can’t underestimate the effect of all the online porn has had on the younger generation. Remember too that there is plenty of porn with young women farking older men.
Porn in the modern age has convinced women to act like men. With disastrous consequences all around.
I’ve fucked a full blooded indian woman before, she was more pornographic than any of them. Promiscuity is in our natures.
So is murder, theft, and laziness. Doesn’t mean they should be endorsed. This is why we had civilization. Unrestricted appetites have apocalyptic consequences over time.
I resemble that remark. I actually did LOL.
As I recall it was “civilization” that brought us to the brink of thermonuclear war. More sex is unlikely to have anywhere near the same effect.
Women enter into porn because 1) they are the extraordinarily damaged ones, and 2) money.
A young girl who’s never been exposed to pornography, thus a ‘fresh face’ will make hundreds of thousands of dollars in her first year, the income increasing with the sluttiness- willingness to do anal etc.
They don’t go into porn because they are nymphos, or because they think pornography is something honorable or feminist. It’s all about the money.
I know I’m talking to a man here, therefore you must be ten thousand times more informed on the subject than I am. I read a little about pornography, prostitution etc. and the interesting thing is that the majority of men think that those women somehow ‘like’ what they’re doing.
No, they don’t. They act exactly like high-class escorts- greed is their only motivation.
No. What porn did was show women what men really want. Acrobatic sex, moaning like on fire, lightning-speed, superpowered blowjobs. It drove them to start behaving like that with the men they don’t ‘care’ about (i.e. one night stands), and consequently, to engage in promiscuous behavior, to ‘train’ themselves for the ‘one’ guy whom they’ll f*ck so good he’ll never want to stick it to another woman.
I know it sounds crazy, but it’s true.
I’m sure I’ve slept with more women than you have, so I would say my knowledge of womens’ sexuality is probably at least 10,000 times better. And I’ve known women who’ve gone both into prostitution and done porn(for some reason women tend to tell me their deepest secrets). Its like alot of jobs, there are many reasons for doing it(money of course being a strong one). And yes there are plenty of nymphos in porn as well. You know the slutty impulsive girl who likes to show off at parties? Thats also the type of girl who doesn’t mind being slutty and showing off in front of the camera for money. Is it really so threatening that *gasp* pornstars might enjoy what they do?
I’m sure you’ve slept with a lot of women and that many of those told you their ‘secrets’.
But I AM a woman.
As I mentioned, one of the reasons for porn is extreme damage (as a child, as a teenager, or just ‘born with it’).
The damage however doesn’t make a certain woman ‘nymphomaniac’. Clinically-proven nymphomaniacs are as rare as unicorns. Has any porn star ever admitted to being a nympho?
The impulsive girl who likes to show off at parties isn’t a nymphomaniac with strong ‘gina tingles to be pounded by three men at once, on rotation. She is damaged because she craves attention, and this is the way she believes she will get it. These women never say they are nymphos about themselves or their friends, and never say that they like multiple partners hitting them hard, all at once; what they do is claiming to be ‘independent’, ‘open minded’ and ‘comfortable with their sexuality’.
They want to be a flagpole, the enlightened pioneer of female independence and ‘power’, and the way they’re doing it precisely emphasizes how disturbed they are.
Interestingly enough, these ‘party slut’ girls are also the majority of those who cry rape on social media pages and in self-baptized ‘artistic’ gestures.
Not minding being considered slutty is the main trait of a woman who is a porn star. Why doesn’t she mind- because she’s counting on ‘liberal’ views, attention, and rapid enrichment in a short span, which in turn will allow her to ‘retire’ from her profession. How many 80 year-old porn actresses are there today?
I am not a feminist or liberal-oriented, therefore I have absolutely no reason to ‘defend’ porn stars from what they do, or claim that they’re victims of patriarchy or male domination or whatever feminists claim about porn, all that load of rubbish. I do not believe that.
I am simply telling you as a woman, that physically speaking, it is against out genetic code and physiological construction to derive pleasure from the sexual activities practiced in the porn industry (multitude, intensity, high number of partners, etc). It just doesn’t happen.
I am surprised that a man would believe so, when the manospherians are the first ones to point out how women’s bodies were created to perceive sexual intercourse as a means of bonding with the partner, how damaging it is to have multiple partners as it goes against the bodily nature itself, etc.
Ok so really what you are writing about here is you. You are from the UK whose social mores say that no woman would want those things. Meanwhile if you visited a Native American tribe, you would find that they would be perfectly willing to do and enjoy those porn things without reserve. You were likely molested as a child which is why you obsessively talk about “damage”. Everyone has been injured at one point in their lives, but what is important is what you do after that, whether you choose to give all the power to the damager(everything is all their fault forever on now!) or reclaim that power for yourself(I just have to dust myself off, and do the best I can do). In fact for some people that damage or weakness can turn into a strength. James Earl Jones was a stutterer, now he has one of the most famous voices ever. I know that many women who have had bad things happen to them have a hard time just trusting and being with a new person, let alone doing anything kinky. I remember getting jumped by two guys who tried to beat me with a tire iron-for a week or two I couldn’t even stand someone coming up from behind me on a side walk. But life goes, on-if you let it.
Sir, thou are significantly mistaken here.
I am not from the UK, I am from Eastern Europe, Romania to be specific.
I grew up in a very conservative, family-oriented, post-Communist society, so perhaps I am a little biased when it comes to my personal opinions about pornography. In my ‘part of the world’, women who become porn actresses used to be deemed damaged or severely impaired by some form of abuse in their lives, as nobody could understand why a normal person would ever choose that ‘career’ path.
Then, the ‘American slut’ became internationally famous, thanks to the media, the internet, trends in entertainment, etc. Therefore, ‘we’ in Eastern Europe believe that those women are just attention seekers and nothing else. As a woman, i cannot comprehend how can another woman choose to be publicly displayed while rammed by several men at the same time, on film, therefore for eternity. That’s why I believe that there’s only the mental issue, as well as the greed.
I am not excusing any ‘hardships’ one might have to deal with in life, as that’s perfectly normal and people are expected to grow from facing difficulties. I am simply stating my opinion as a woman who has other female friends, colleagues, relatives, etc.
My country (alongside the Republic of Moldova) was unfortunately at some point one of the top exporters of female prostitutes in Western Europe, due to the massive poverty of the lower class in the aftermath of Communism dismantling. Do you think those women became street walkers because they enjoyed having sex with 50 men every night? It was because of greed, quick financial gains, etc.
I was never molested as a child, why on earth would you even think that?
Do you think that women who enjoy attention and fast money would choose pornography, stripping or prostitution (the lowest end) if these ‘jobs’ were paid like a regular office job?
Remember what one of the Playboy bunnies said when she started stripping- after making several thousand dollars in one night, she never wanted to do anything else in her life.
‘Damaged’- not that a certain episode took place in those women’s lives. But that they’ve had damaging childhoods, damaging schooling, damaging parents and no role models, no education and nothing to aspire to. Pretty much 90% of the backgrounds that typical slutty party girls come from.
Ah I was assuming you were from a westernized country, and using British english.. Anyways to give you an example of a woman who does it for fun http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/asa-akira-memoir-qanda/ But I know that many countries that are not rich western ones, have values like going back in time here (not said as an insult). All I can say is that if and when you come to a place like the US or England, you will be shocked by the behavior of the women, from looking like slobs,, sleeping around, to doing porn for fun. You call it damage..women here would call it the logical conclusion of liberation. My belief is that its the difference between Masculine, and Feminine cultures.
To be honest Jim, I used to be a little ’embarrassed’ when I was a teenager, about being from Eastern Europe. I thought people would automatically assume I am a street thug, or connected with criminal gangs, or a gypsy, or an orphan ^.^
Nowadays I’m actually starting to feel proud about my origins, as I can literally see the tremendous differences between East and West in terms of modernity v. conservatism….
I think everyone hates where they are from, until they go somewhere else. Romania is interesting, kind of has that Italian impulsiveness, but lost in Soviet Russias history. So tell me I met a girl from Romania once at a party and she bit my neck, is this the standard greeting there? Anyways, I think you’ll find in most of the world, latin and eastern european women are in demand, and in a way you never felt at home. And of course everyone loves an accent…
As well you should
Some days I am a sour grapes, cantankerous old man about these millennials who are basically shooting fish in a barrel. Other days I’m glad I’m not a unimaginative shithead bagging unforgettable slags with skrillex hair.
Most are not shooting fish in a barrel.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/83/83cc5e43055d52f750d05ada28ebfd5d5be3735787fb0dc0e79937b0cbccddf9.jpg
How many of those chicks did you bang in the end?
That’s a very interesting experiment!
I hope that this way, you guys convinced yourselves of the should v. reality dichotomy that dictates not only women’s lives, but also men’s.
In other words, how important physical attractiveness and looks are, for both sexes.
I say ‘should’ v. reality because the majority of the manosphere seems to be firmly convinced that women subconsciously desire ONLY a man who is powerful, wealthy, successful and all that (the ‘should’ rationalization), when in the reality of the raw, come-and-get-it ‘meat market’, things aren’t exactly like that.
When it comes to our genetic impulses for procreation, i.e. sex, wealth, status and social power matter very little for both sexes. Remember the ‘hot felon’ internet craze from a few years ago- women, just like men, feel physically turned on by attractiveness and youth, not social position and money.
Women look for the classical masculine ideal of a successful, wealthy protector and provider when it comes to settling down and having long-term access to the man’s resources, immediate sexual satisfaction not being a core principle.
Power is a great aphrodisiac on the long run. In an immediate response case, you have ‘hot chicks’ throwing their panties at hunky guys like there’s no tomorrow, not giving a crap about ‘game’ or status or wealth.
I did the same thing on POF. Some BEAUTIFUL guys pics (I’m not gay but objectively saying a solid 10) and the bitches were throwing themselves at me. Without me contacting them. Bitches I had personally contacted prior under my real profile (and I’m a 7…average face with a hot bod). Bitches were giving my mock profile their numbers in their initial contacts. And the profile was called “bizzyboy” and he was a party hungry pussy chasing 420 dick.
http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=41769
This article is golden. Last year when I was getting into game, I used Tinder for a few months to get started and had a ton of success. I’ve been called good looking by many people, but the pictures I put up were pretty average. This past weekend, I reactivated my account and it’s safe to say it’s a wasteland. Of all the matches I’ve had with attractive girls, most of the conversations either only lasted a few messages or were dead in the water. This tells me that Tinder has become the official ego booster for girls looking for a quick hit. Furthermore, it’s lead to me believe that the only way to have mild success is to have professional pictures taken. If your pictures aren’t intriguing, don’t even bother.
To all the lurkers out there, don’t make the mistake I did and use Tinder as a crutch. While your texting and date game may improve the most important aspect, creating opportunities, will stay the same. You’ll end up with incredible mid and late stage game and virtually no early game. Go out and grind those approaches. It may take more work and you’ll go through some shit, but it’s the only way to improve your inner game and social calibration. I’m at the point now that I’d rather do 50 approaches and get a makeout than 5 openers on TInder and get a bang. Banging women should never be the goal, it should be part of the journey. Keep hustling. You’re not the only ones out there.
great thinking sir..real life interactions are always better than anything online
On a somewhat related, I’ve had a number of good experiences with Meetup. It’s simply a social app, but most people use it to also meet dates. Has the broad-pool advantages of an app, with the social ease of “just meeting among friends”. FWIW
“one narcissistic image after another”…
That Angrybirds part was pretty ridiculous.
“This means that they are swamped with options. So when you get chatting to a girl, even if your messaging game is stellar, there’s still the likelihood that she’s going tho get distracted by the next shiny thing and stop replying to your messages.”
True, but not limited to Tinder. The second you leave that hot girl after getting her number at the bar, she’s either swiping left and right or just flat out reaching for the nearest spot on the carousel. Got to keep the abundance mindset, especially nowadays.
I’m wondering what it would be like for the older crowd. I might even experiment. I love trolling dating sites.
I had an OK stupid account a few years ago and I was getting matched up with the “washed up female musician” types. Women who realized that 1) they suck and 2) gravity is starting to have an effect. And no, I don’t want to stick it in some hole that every bass player had already reamed.
Lol, you know it, every damn bass player.
And what do you do after leaving that hot girl after getting her number at the bar? Go sleep tight, holding a picture of her tightly close to your heart, and dream of your children’s names, or do you move onto greener pastures and plentier pussy, ‘gaming’ girls as the night goes along?
It’s funny how guys expect exclusivity even from random girls they hit on, but would never return the favor.
The whole online dating game in general is rigged in favor of females.
The odds that an average guy has in this game are slim.
Better to cold approach and take her home like a man than being at their mercy for choosing you.
I think most males today still think that because technology advances the female sexual strategy also advances. But that’s nonsense. The ROI of cold approaches must be at least ten times better than time spend using Tinder.
plus things you learn via cold approach just cannot be learnt via tinder.
Cold Approach is like killing a thousand birds with a single shot.
10 x 0 = 0 in my case.
Ok, who the hell gave you permission to use that picture of me with my guns?
Quite an impressive man sweater you have going on there, bro.
Thanks. What with the cost of ammo these days, I have to save on heating bills so the fur it a good help.
Shedder. Have to double wash the bedsheets after.
I see his manly bruin sexiness gave you the vapours cindy – you meant ‘double wash’ the bedsheets. After? 🙂
After sweating up the sheets with sins of lust. Honey, is that a glock in your shorts or are you just happy to see me?
But how do you chase the rats out in the morning?
Careful, that thing is loaded, you wouldn’t want to be responsible for a misfire, and if he was happy to see you it would be poking you in the eye (the other ‘glock’).
Fuck washing them. Just toss it out.
If you’re getting laid via Tinder every night, your standards aren’t very high.
Secondly, this attitude among men to promote the player lifestyle, is contributing to women being whores. When you decide later that you want a serious woman, you’ll most likely get the left-overs from other men like yourself.
Truth bomb – plus hunting is so much more fun
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” is contributing to women being whores”… hmmm, no. Women are whores by default. We only see it now due to the societal degradation. Men only adapt to the situation. As to the left over, all unmarried women passed the wall are a left over.
Unless you live in very, very select areas of London, NYC, SF, Dubai(lol), this is always the case.
Fuck the whores, date the Saints. Honestly you guys make it so hard on yourselves.
That last picture made me throw up in my mouth a little. Ewwww.
The hairy bastard with the guns was like a bad car accident – horrific but I can’t look away.
And the nips just won’t quit…
Mmmmmmm……nips.
Speaking of nips, what do you call nuts on a wall?
Call em like you see em
Mmmmmmmm……let me think about that one.
Walnuts. Next question: what do you call nuts on a chest?
Titnuts?
No, damnit, chestnuts, ferkricesakez, lol.
If someone leaves you nuts in their Will what are they called?
It depends if the nuts need to be surgically removed from Will or if they come out on their own after a greasy meal for example.
I meant Will as in Last Will and…..
Last Willy and Testicles?
Willnuts.
Ok, I bet you prefer Willnuts to Wontnuts.
What do you call nuts on a chin?
Teabagging.
No. That would be scrotum in a mouth.
Nuts on chin = blowjob.
8. The pig shit females who are on Tinder are garbage, std riddled snouts and entrails.
Seriously, if you’re a hot chyck you need not bother with Tinder because you’ll be too busy deciding which rich asshole who is competing for you in real life is going to do the most for you,
Best comment I’ve read so far. This is spot on.
Thanks.
Not part of the market, per se, so I really don’t get what’s going on. Seems to me common sense that if you are face to face that you can employ touch and all kinds of kinetic type flirting that just is not possible over a stupid app. If Tinder works for some guys, ok great, but personally a good portion of my “Game” has always been being tall, imposing, dangerous looking, low deep slow tempo voice, touching, wry grins, etc. which just does not translate over text.
The last time I saw Tinder in field use, was when I was at a pub some months ago, and at the end of the bar were two 20-something girls apparently using this app. I can tell by that swiping hand movement.
They seemed to be making a huge deal of it, and laughed as they rejected many images.
They were both fatasses. The kind with too much makeup and tats (to cover up being a hambeast as usual). This is why I don’t blame millenials for giving up.
Stop! Yur makin my nips hard!
Gross!
It happens.
I’m younger, while not especially tall. I’d rather do it in person than via technology.
Ol’ school. Fuck fancy degrees in multimedia. “We don’t need no education!”
In other words: having social skills, which is an increasingly lost art among the youth, who are overly reliant on technology.
Maybe it’s just my area, but whenever I go on Tinder something like 90 percent of the women on there are 45 or older. And not particularly attractive, even by 45+ standards.
When I was working in transportation there were areas where all of the women seemed middle aged AND had 1970s waitress makeup. I’m talking the eastern Midwest states like West VA for example – small town and such.
I wondered if anybody in those towns bothered to get laid. From the looks of it, anybody with any libido must have packed up and headed out long ago.
Online “dating” got exposed big time with the Ashley Madison leaks. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if most of the females on tinder are bots trying to keep up male participation. I agree 100% with what was written. The old fashion way of pounding the pavement to meet women, for now, is far superior. There was hope for online dating around the time MySpace ruled the world. Online dating is like that one bar that has a bunch of beautiful women one weekend. The next week, word has gotten around and it turns into a year round sausage fest.
If you’re in average Western city daygame has really low ROI. I’ve been going at it for a few weeks now after returning from much more fruitful locals in various parts of the world. The attitudes and flake rates are making me wonder if it’s worth the time and effort.
As for Tinder girls, they’re usually 2 pts less than what their pics indicate and trying to get them out is like pulling teeth.
So what’s left? Nightgame and social circle. Mgtow is looking more appealing for a spell until i can escape this pussy hell hole again.
I tried Tinder and had several matches. 99% of them are fat women in their 30s with children. I am losing interest pretty quick.
sounds like OKC.
“On Tinder You Are Judged Solely on Your Looks…”
i am married now and missed out on tinder. that said, my looks are much better than my personality, so i think it may have been the app for guys like me.
I know guys better looking than you who hard pass’d on the app after trying it out.
I don’t mean to offend here, but it’s time for the media frenzy on this app to end. MSM articles on the topic are essentially Roosh sponsored posts, except they don’t acknowledge the sponsor. Tinder is now owned by the eHarmony frauds.
There was a time when tinder was a great way to meet cute girls, but this was before it reached maturity.
better looking than me? no way, chicks dig masks.
seriously though, you have NO IDEA how bad my game was during the time i’m talking about. tinder may have been just what i needed. “why should i have to talk to them if i’m 6’2 and fit?” gameless version of me from a few years ago used to ask himself.
I’ve tried Tinder and met a few women off it, but gave up on it because it was a waste of time. Most of the women I met had delusional expectations. What I don’t understand about Tinder is why women post profiles that say right away they are either looking for a serious relationship or they are “not looking for a hookup.” Some of them even say they are “looking for their soulmate.”
Whenever I saw profiles like that, I’d wonder the hell are they doing on Tinder
if that’s what they are looking for. I thought casual sex was the whole point of being on there in the first place.
As they say, watch what women do, not what they say (write in their profiles).
They’re on there to hook up. Period. That nonsense about finding a relationship or soul mate is just a cover so she doesn’t appear like a slut.
It’s not about what women ‘do’ versus what they say.
If those girls are already on Tinder, they know very well that the men who use the app are looking for hookups and sex only. Believe me nobody is unconscious to think some guy who saw her tit and crotch photos will automatically assume she’s soulmate potential.
Those girls are either dumb like rocks, or just want to pretend they’re not ‘as bad’ as ‘other girls’.
“I don’t want One night stands”.
You know what that is? It’s a shittest. If you are man enough not to be repelled by that line, you might be good enough to have a one night stand with her. Female logic.
Fuck shit tests. When I want to fuck a woman, I let her know. If she wants it, she lets me know.
As soon as a woman throws a shit test at me, I call them out on it and walk. Too many men suck up to women for pussy and demean themselves trying to pass some fucked up broad’s shit test, to show they are “worthy” of her.
I refuse to play that game. I know my worth and my attitude is they have to show themselves worthy of me. I have walked away from pussy several times over shit tests, and have had women stalking me because they couldn’t get over it. A man has to respect himself first and foremost. Nothing is worth losing your self-respect over-especially pussy.
I agree I’ve seen profiles with statements such as just looking for friends and it makes me wonder what’s going on..
They put that shit to fool simps. If you can’t put two and two together you’re dead before it even started.
I figured that, but I don’t jump through hoops for nobody, especially for pussy. I’m straightforward with women about what I want, and only want women with the same mentality.
If a woman can’t be straightforward about wanting a good fuck and has to play games on Tinder of all places, I want nothing to do with them. I don’t have time for games, but I’m sure plenty of men do and will indulge them.
OP is right Tinder is all about how you look, if you’re in the top 15% it’s childs play if not do what I do and hit the field!
While it s a good video, a lot of Tinder confessions are fake, just like the new Whisper app that’s being pushed on everyone
I have never seen the allure of these online dating services for many of the reasons stated above. One important one is that when you look into a woman’s eyes you can tell a lot about her (whether she is crazy, a bitch or whatever). And also, if you even like her. Texting with a stranger online takes away this crucial aspect. I would much rather meet a girl in person before considering taking her out. Nothing worse than wasting your time with a girl it turns out you don’t even like.
Well said, englishbob! Couldn’t agree more.
Depending on the area, Tinder can work wonders if you look good, have excellent pictures and list your age as under 33. I do great in real life but on Tinder, as a 38 yo, not so much.
So lie. Every woman on the thing is lying so why not?
If you use Tinder, you will always get the superfluous and extremely immature women, because it’s based solely on looks. These women are different from normal women because normal ones prioritize confidence, security and the capacity to make them laugh… above physical (assuming your looks are OK).
If you still want to get some online, then I recommend using sites that emphasize a detailed profile, like OKCupid. I’ve received several approaches from girls on OKC, and they’re usually the type that’s not superfluous and don’t go to get drunk to bars on a regular basis.
ok cupid is full of ultra-liberal, feminist, career minded sluts. I would say it’s the same crowd as those in Tinder.
OKC is great for hookups. Lots of sluts. At least, it used to be. Guaranteed lay on the first or second date.
i’d say forget online dating all together
I am absolutely convinced that Tinder can be addictive…which is why haven’t tried it out yet. I met up with a friend of mine recently that I haven’t seen for months. We were sitting in a bar and catching up…he seemed really distracted and would check his phone every five minutes for new message and text some girls back on Tinder…he told me that he found out about it (we are living in Germany) only five months ago and since then he bedded three girls each month that he met on Twitter (I guess it helps that he is a pilot).
He was always a natural and when we were hitting the clubs in our late teens and early twenties he usually ended up with with some numbers and he would then go on one or two dates and then get the desired outcome. So it didn’t surprise me that he was very successful on Tinder.
However, I was seriously annoyed that he was constantly checking his his mobile and seemed to be more interested in writing a witty line on Twitter than talking to me after months not having seen each other.
What happened to social interactions? I am always giving people 100% when I talking to them face-to-face, so I expect the same.
Maybe I am old-fashioned, but I seriously miss the days where people were
L I S T E N I N G to what the other person had a deep, meaningful conversation.
When did we become so superficial.
You might disagree with me and maybe I am missing out not being on Tinder, but I prefer to meet women the old-fashioned way. It is more exciting if you have to work up the courage to go over and talk to her and you know that you like her physically (I am only talking to girls that seem interesting or are my type).
Should read: Were L I S T E N I N G to what the other person had to say and had a deep, meaningful conversation.
Don’t use dating apps, they are for losers.
Tinder didn’t make dating easier for men but for women. We men know that as well, but the truth does hurt. It’s the 5% of guys that will get all the attention. And 95% of us are not him, me neither. Doesn’t mean you can’t get laid, you just have to put some effort into it. Approach any good looking woman on the street. Have a 5 minute conversation. Your balls: bigger than 80% of all men on this world. Probably more. Really. It is the truth. Approach 10 and you will have a date with at least one, if your game is good enough.
If you don’t have a fat free and muscular body you have something else to do instead of trying to get laid.
Most are afraid to cheat on their plain Jane wife’s. The wife’s are afraid to wear mini skirts without panties, so venture out.
You missed one, because it’s more fun and more awesome..
but you should reallly do both. If you use the best pictures of you, you will do well. You should also not look like that sasquatch in that picture, if you do, you need to lose weight, build muscle, work on your body first before learning any game, because you may actually discover you don’t need game.. and if you do, well then your evolution will happen a hell of a lot faster with a lot less destruction of whatever inner game you had due to the fact that looks DO affect how well you do with what you know.
The thing is if you strike out on tinder you may have done real well in a face to face encounter. Online there is no physical connection and you can only get so close online.
That’s the reason why I deleted my Tinder. Even though I was able to attain minor success. Tinder isn’t the best way to get girls. Great Article though.
Skype every woman you talk to online before meeting in person. My 1st date score rate was 90+% using this method and they were ALL hot. No skype, no date, no exceptions —