When a man gets into game it is natural that his first concern is with the emotions of the women with whom he interacts. You spit a bad line on your approach and she’s angry. You tease her too hard and she gets upset. Or you settle into a relationship but she is jealous and you fight.
In all of these cases the primary concern is the manner in which she reacts to whatever you’re doing. “If I could only change the way she feels,” the man thinks, reasonably enough, “Then all will be well.” But regardless of what you want from your relations this is the wrong way of looking at it. For a man to get good with women it is his own emotions that need to be controlled first, not hers.
Fear
The most common emotion that men encounter in cold approach pick up is fear — that and anxiety, shame, and sometimes even depression. This, as we all know, is rooted in what we call “approach anxiety.” You spend hours reading tips on pick-up on forums and websites and then when you steel yourself to actually try it you might get rejected rudely or simply snubbed.
For obvious reasons this creates a negative spiral of bad feelings. You have put yourself on the line in the most fundamental way and your looks, height, style, demeanour or alpha status or some combination of all of them are found lacking. The cruel smack of the sexual marketplace has shattered whatever ego protection you built up beforehand.
It is little wonder that many men tiptoe over the line into approaching, only to retreat again when the going gets tough to the safety of forums where they can safely deny the efficacy of game in a mutual circle jerk that assuages nothing.
Fear of approaching thus deters many men who could have gone on to achieve success, but who instead drop out of the market prematurely, a clear example of a negative emotion having an adverse effect.
But positive emotions can equally upset one’s equilibrium. The man who is on a good run in game can feel like he is flying. The effect is literally narcotic because guys who go hard can end up sleeping with a great many more women than they were designed to and certainly more than their fathers or grandfathers ever did. This releases adrenaline and endorphins into the system that can become addictive over time.
The Dark Side Of Game
Herein lies the dark side of game. The rush that follows a successful approach or close is frequently replaced with moments of meaninglessness, loneliness, and a general questioning of the whole process. If a man has simply amassed a catalogue of one night stands then as pleasurable as these may have been, he might well find himself pondering on the overall pointlessness of the whole endeavour. In this instance, it is ironically a level of success that might encourage him to quit, the ups and downs of the game proving too much for him.
As with all elements of life, an ability to marshal one’s own inner resources is what is important. This is not a self-help seminar – I’m not here to give you easy mantras or to be an online cheerleader encouraging you to go out and approach. But what I would say is that it is vital that you consider the endgame every time you walk up to a girl, or get snubbed, as you undoubtedly will from time to time.
This particular approach, this particular girl doesn’t matter so much in the big scheme of things. Learn to view game as a process — you come in at a certain level and spend time building a skillset which will with application lead to greater things. You shouldn’t allow individual troughs to get you down too much.
If you fall into the latter camp, and are finding the highs too high and the lows too low, I would suggest that you should incorporate regular “time out” sessions into your routine. One of the most important elements in my life is the strong group of male friends that I have. We get together frequently to talk. Yes, women will come up in those conversations, but they range much wider, taking in our respective ambitions, work lives, and hopes for the future. It is the grounding influence of male friends that has helped me through the emotional ups and downs that game almost inevitably provides.
Become Grounded
It is only when you have truly mastered your own emotions that you will become the kind of man who is grounded, and as such attractive to women. Flightiness caused by untreated emotional disturbance is a major turn off for girls. If this is something you are experiencing a lot, then perhaps it is time to sit down and truly assess where you are going and what you actually want from game, and life.
While chasing women can be a lot of fun, it is no replacement for the solid foundations that immersion in meaningful work and male friendships engender. Disregard these at your peril.
Read More: 5 Reasons Why The Skeptics Are Wrong And You Need To Learn Game
Have a coworker and golf buddy who is the perfect example of how not to treat women. The ultimate Captain Save-a-ho. Meets a woman from a dating site (who lives in section 8 housing), and asks her to move in with him after six weeks. Of course she does, then without telling him, proudly walks into the housing authority office and removes her name from the section 8 list because “I got me a man!”. Back in early March, I come into work early to find him sleeping at his desk. “Things got out of control and I just had to leave”. He left his own house because this woman was out of control. “What should I do?” (I hate giving him advice because he NEVER follows it, but always wants it). I said to treat it like a landlord would, give her until then end of the month to get her shit out of your house. More than fair. Contact the police and find out what your rights are. Of course he’s too much of a pussy and doesn’t follow the advice.
This was back in March. It’s now officially Fall. His mooching ex who doesn’t work still lives at his house RENT FREE. Oh and her meth addicted son broke into the house and stole anything of value during that time. But my coworker is such a nice guy…
we’ve all got a friend like that… just make sure that YOU aren’t ‘that friend’ to someone else!
Oh my God, he sounds like an outright fucking coward!
I bet she hates you for trying to talk some sense into him.
He deserves his fate. Walk away, cut the cord. It will happen eventually when he gets angry at you for being right and realizes his own cowardice.
He’d want to be very careful. It will eventually become “her” house in the eyes of the law..
“he might well find himself pondering on the overall pointlessness of the whole endeavour”
So true especially as you leave your roaring 20’s and start to tire of meaningless encounters. Getting even moderately good with women brings a sense of nihilism. Even if you use those skills to find a good one worth settling down with and popping out chitlins, you still know what the grass is like on the other side.
troy, enjoyed the article… and your last paragraph holds the key: “…no replacement for the solid foundations that immersion in meaningful work and male friendships engender.”
“safety of forums where they can safely deny the efficacy of game in a mutual circle jerk that assuages nothing.” is that what this website is?
Troll account trolls. Film at 11.
I was seriously asking that..when I read it..I asked myself that.
If you’re serious, then the answer is yes and no, depending on the person. Lots of young (and older) men stumble here looking for answers to failed relationships, or why they are a “nice guy” but fail with women, etc. There are segments here about Game, to be certain, and I think each man takes from that exactly what he feels he needs, or he rejects it. The forum however is also more than just Game, and even more than feminist bashing, there are ample areas where simple self improvement is discussed, along with reviews of canonical literature, music and great men, all outside the context of relating directly to picking up women with Game or bitching about society.
Here you’re going to find a buffet of “take what you want”. At other sites, they may be more focused. If, for example, you’re not looking for Game advice, but rather the psychological and philosophical underpinnings of modern society, you’ll hit therationalmale.com, Rollo Tomassi’s site. Dalrock has Christian perspective on the manosphere. Heartiste more of a right wing nationalist view. Etc.
Yeah, I read Rollo and more importantly I read all the comments. Sometimes the discussions are better than the article. A bunch of very smart guys hanging over there.
I hate to say it, but you’re right to a large extent about what this website really is. Many regular posters are parodies of themselves, and there are many ‘controlled opposition’ trolls.
This site and ones like it are meant to distract and disinform, giving partial truths to misdirect people, until the bankers are ready to collapse the economy. Between PUAdom, controlled media and other distractions, the western population has fallen asleep. Don’t worry, they will be getting laid soon, but the men of western society will for the most part have sore assholes when they wake up.
Now you my friend, you’re talking sense. Keep us distracted with baser urges while the bankers continue raking in the cheddar with their big scam, just another distraction.
Oh yeah, anyone who calls you a troll is merely butthurt or projecting their insecurities, because you clearly spoke the truth in what you said.
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I think every man has made the mistake of shrugging off his friends because of a woman at one time or another. The key is, learn from it. Your real friends won’t be lost for good, they’ll gladly welcome you back to the male social circle, after they give you a little bit of shit for it of coarse. The old cliche is so true: bitches come and go, but your friends will always be your friends.
Interesting article, it dovetails with something that has happened quite recently in our household.
My son and his two year girlfriend, whom I’ve mentioned before as being of Amish descent, long haired, thin, gorgeous and feminine, “broke up”. All her of course (he showed me the texts). Basically she’s still in High School while he is now in his first semester of college, and since he’s not there to be the status icon her little mind desires in front of other High Schoolers, she feels that “it’s probably best if we spend some time apart” aka The Breakup. Every man here knows that this means that if she isn’t riding another horse already, she’s got one saddled up and ready to take to the trail with.
Son wasn’t terribly distraught, though clearly it was bothering him (no tears in our household though, unless it’s a relative’s funeral or your best hunting dog died). He asked my advice.
In a nutshell: “You can’t win the manipulation and emotion games with women, son. Can’t do it. She will throw you every curve ball in the book to get you upset and out of control and then eventually try to string you along with promises of perhaps getting together in the future. Don’t fall for it. Emotional detachment is men’s best defense against women’s emotions and manipulations. Don’t answer any of her texts for at least a day at a time, and don’t use more than a one word non-emotive response, such as “huh” or “ok”.
Even though you can’t win the emotional storm game with her, you can do one better. Be distant. Simply stop caring. This will drive her crazy because she wants you to beg for her back, and when you don’t, she’ll turn her mind in on itself wondering why and it will drive her crazy. The less concerned you seem about anything, the better. You will have weaponized her mind against herself.
And remember, as you’re seeing now, there are so many women out there that thinking that there is ‘just one’ for you is silly at this point in your life. If she wants to get back together, she has to come to you and beg, not vice versa. Don’t be ‘that guy’ who slobbers, cries, promises anything to get her back and gets depressed. Just walk away and get on with life”
This was last week. He was out working on the car yesterday in the garage with a buddy of his, laughing and shooting the shit. He hasn’t walked around mopey, and seems to be genuinely engaged with people around him and rather happy. Maybe it was mutual on both their parts, maybe not, but he really seems to have dropped her like a bad cold. Too bad in a way, she has a strong set of genes behind her and was raised to know how to do domestic things. Oh well. heh
Did you advise him to start gaming other women since she broke up with him?
That was part of the “look around at all the chicks where you go to college” routine.
Mwa ha ha!
I wish there was *ANYWHERE* I could have heard or read this kind of advice when I was a teenager. Thank goodness for ROK and the manosphere. And glad to see son is learning quickly, and I know that his friends are observing this and learning from it.
I was going to disagree with your premise that men can’t weather the emotional storm of women until I read this… “but he really seems to have dropped her like a bad cold.” That’s really the key.
Once a man has gamed enough girls to have seen most of the stunts they pull, then it becomes 2nd nature to just shrug it off as, “oh well, just another girl doing what girls do.” By that point a man can remind himself that she’s was and is nothing special and, there’s another one just like her, or better, just an approach away. That’s the emotional control I finally developed after a 3 years in the game, experiencing the crap storm for the first time. Now I’m a veteran and girls yelling that a fag in a bar doesn’t even phase me anymore.
Oh, we can weather it by not sailing into it, was basically what I was saying. As you note, when you can shrug and walk away, you’ve basically set your sails towards another destination and leave the storm behind you. Every guy here knows that sitting around letting her push your buttons is a game that you really can’t win, it’s her domain and she knows precisely how to wield that shiv to cut out every last ounce of masculinity from your corpse if you let her. Getting emotional and “one up” screaming back only plays into her hand. So don’t let her, basically, is what I’m saying.
If you’re in a LTR and “have” to deal with the shitstorm on occasion I’ve found that never losing your cool, keeping “frame” and knowing when to indicate to her that you will not continue the conversation until she calms down, then walking away, works wonders. Sailing a different direction, still, iow.
” Emotional detachment is men’s best defense against women’s emotions and manipulations.”
I think it was Roosh who said (or be might have quoted someone else) : “A man cannot be harmed when he has options”. And this dictum works in every topic, from women to jobs to life choices. Every man should endeavor to keep all of his options open. Bitter women, or losers in general, will call this “having your cake and eating too”. But having cake does leave us the OPTION to eat it (or throw it).
See my dad tried to give me advice like that, but he was a wage slave working two jobs and I hardly ever saw him.
(Wage slavery is beta, even if you are not a simp with women, pro tip there)
All he could do was throw a blurb with me that, given lack of internet in those days, I could not work with.
He would say “get as much pussy as you can while you can”.
He was a simple fellow.
Alright fess up time here.
I have made some stupid beta mistakes in my day. While I was lucky to have enough “alpha realizations” (due to some addiction to logic) I still had a lot of beta conditioning.
For this I have had a lot of knock down arguments with women, the kind that leave a mark on your mind if you know what I mean.
So one day I’m having a “crawling in the dirt I deserve to die” episode and for a moment I had some clarity, perhaps some neurons against total self destruction triggered (the kind that happens just out of pure stupid) and I was in a state of mind that put me in a control seat in my own head, like a captain in a starship. And I was in my captains chair saying “Well, here I go again. Just like many times before, and nothing will change. HOW DID I GET HERE?”
I could not shake that question, nor answer it. But, I kept wondering. “How did I get here?”. I would start seeking an answer, but in the meantime, I made one promise to myself: I’M NOT GOING THERE AGAIN, NO MATTER WHAT.
So, I didn’t go there again, going against years of beta conditioning, conditioning that, in each step revealed to me how I got there, and how to not go there:
– arguing with a woman, on anything.
– treating a woman as an “equal” in all aspects. They are not equal.
– being too nice to women even when they don’t deserve it.
– thinking that women are on par with being adults and forgetting that they are not wired like an adult male.
Stop doing those things, and “controlling your emotions” is no big deal, because you won’t have to spend a lot of energy on it. Rather than “have the emotion first then have to control it”, avoid the things that cause the emotions in the first place. After all, women constantly clamor for their trigger warnings and safe spaces, as if the man must always be on the defense and on the notion that no matter what happens, it’s his fault and it’s he who must abide, self control, and change. That women are pure sweet and innocent and men are hairless apes ready to explode any second.
And that’s bullshit.
I have finally realized over the last 2 years that ANY MAN can bring out the absolute demonic horrific worst in ANY WOMAN by treating her too nice. Argue with a woman? It will escalate on her terms and it will go into flying-object hellish rages with her screaming at the top of her lungs and throwing things (and the cops will come and arrest YOU). So NEVER argue with any woman, ever.
Treating her as an equal? Forget it. Do we treat children as equals? We don’t and for good reasons. Well, treating a women as a equal is not as bad as treating a child as equal, but it’s in that direction. And before anybody screams “misogyny” I find that realizing women are not our equals actually makes me more forgiving, understanding, and friendly toward them in such manner that we don’t hate a child for having a tantrum either. Yes that’s true patriarchy right there: known women are not our equals and knowing of (and ready to de-escalate them) from their lack of self control so the world does not fall apart (micro and macro levels).
Being too nice to women is a thing. You know what? I used to be a loser lamenting how women dump us for being “too nice”. Well, when you put a woman on a pedestal and give her total and absolute power (as I have done) that power will corrupt her to no end. The woman who dumps a man for being “too nice” is not necessarily some feminist-fueled cunt out to gorge on smart-mouthed alpha cock until gravity kills her looks. They were in fact women who could feel the evil emerging in them, feeling themselves start to change because of the power they were being given, and did not want to go there. Yeah the more intelligent higher quality women were the ones dumping men for being too nice. That’s because they had enough self-awareness (also a key to not being a hambeast) to see what was happening to them and they need to get away from the simp before he turns her into something she won’t be proud of. Even a child can discern and avoid evil.
And yes, on my observation, women are simply not wired like men. Period. It’s absolutely true that men and women are supposed to be complementary roles. To attempt to make women equal is to attempt to turn her into a man. You really want that? “Don’t worry your pretty little head” is not an insult. When I stopped treating women as equals, I stopped expecting man-like results, and from that I stopped being confounded and disappointed in women. Yes, less “misogyny” there too, because I’m not expecting the same from them (and not necessarily less, just difference) I can accept what results I get and understand why they are different.
So, this article has sound advice and I want to extend what it’s saying by having described the shortcut: you will not be emotional with women at all (and hence not need to control emotions for they do not appear at all) when you realize that which I have learned the hard way.
Very true. I found that the more I tried to cater to my wife and make her life easier the worse the fights got. I finally read some blogs like Bold & Determined and got the insight I needed. The biggest rule was don’t apologize, ever. Do we still have our fights? Sure, what couple doesn’t? But they aren’t anywhere NEAR as severe as they used to be and they don’t last days on end. It usually winds up with her grumbling for 10-15 minutes and then getting over it.
Pro Tip: If you really want to send your girl into a tizzy, accuse her of acting like a spoiled little child and that you’re going to send her to timeout if she can’t have a discussion like an adult. Grab a chair and watch the fireworks.
Fantastic pro-tip. My general tactic for when wifey goes bonkers is to calmly say “You’re too emotional to talk to right now. I’m going to go ahead and shelve this discussion until you can calm down and speak without flying off the handle”. You’d think it would piss her off, but it actually works. A girl being told this for the first time may fly off the handle and get more obnoxious, so teach her that you’re serious, and simply put on your shoes and go out and get a drink at a bar (or whatever you do). Never, ever get angry back such that you lose your composure.
I came to this conclusion on my own several years ago, more often then not the subject was never revisited later because it was rarely anything worth discussing in the first place, but just her trying to make a scene out of nothing and get a rise out of me. When it failed, and she realized that logically there was zero argument or discussion to be had on that topic, it was never mentioned again.
My preferred tactic for relationship management is spontaneous anal.
I think a little freak out session is a basic female need. We let off steam by having a few beers with some buddies, they do it by jumping up and down and screaming.
Eh. Based on how quickly I have seen a few modify their approach when it is made clear emotional outbursts will lead nowhere, I’m not sure.
I think they know deep down that they are behaving like a child. But why should they care when it is so effective so often?
I mean I’ve seriously had a girl bawling and told her to stop crying or I will leave. She did not. So I went to the door and she went from ugly cry to totally calm.
I imagine the look on my face as I stared at her was pretty funny. I was somewhere between amused and frightened.
Absolutely agree. You take it in stride and learn to deal with it.
And if a man gets a woman pregnant, intentionally, learn how to mow grass…a lot. Being in house with a pregnant woman can be bliss, or sheer hell. Learn how to know when to walk away for “yard work”. Heh.
You know how I know we’re from GenX or earlier? I’ll bet you a dollar to a doughnut you took typing in high school or at some point in college, or learned it out of necessity for a job. I did (high school), IBM Selectric. As a result we can post entire walls of text in less than five minutes, where the average Millenial is One Finger Typing his way through his first paragraph. Heh.
Good story and admonishments.
Typing nowadays on the internet is atrocious. I don’t really know what Gen I fall into (born 1985, Gen Y, maybe?). I learned to type in 5th grade, but I also went to private school. Some comments I see are so bad that I don’t even know what the hell they’re saying.
Grammar and spelling in general has plummeted to the lowest common denominator. You should read business correspondence. You’d think it would be clear, concise and professional in content and grammar. Nope. Basically it’s people trying to impress others by confusing the language with obscure words and catch phrases, while generally ignoring most rules of punctuation. Find me a man today who knows the proper use of a semicolon; I can’t find one.
I’m not great with the colon and semi-colon, but in my opinion, those are small potatoes to a lot of the grammatical crimes you see on the internet; run on sentences, poor spelling, incoherent thoughts and sentence structure. The list goes on. I think the term “grammar Nazi” has had a lot to do with this. You call someone out for an illegible sentence and you’re labeled a grammar Nazi…never mind the fact you’re right…
I was just attempting wit with my comment about the semicolon.
You just found one. I started typing classes in 6th grade. You’re right about everything you said. It’s refreshing to see other people similar to myself.
It’s not just Millenials though. I usually only get along with people older than me… let’s just say their grammar/spelling/punctuation is no better. I have an older friend in his 30’s, albeit a dumb farm raised redneck so it’s kind of a given, that can’t spell ANYTHING for the life of him. I have to tell him how to spell words like color, no joke, as he fingerpecks the keyboard with the most dumbfounded look on his face. It will take him literally 3 minutes to type a song into youtube. If auto-complete doesn’t fill in the rest of his search, he’ll actually give up because he can’t spell it!! It’s truly remarkable to me how someone could live their entire life without knowing how to spell. Congrats and props for paying attention in school and knowing the language you speak.
When my company goes on a hiring I get to read the resumes first.
And my faith in humanity drops. The boss says I can drink on the job when I read them.
It wasn’t lost on me 😉
I hear you. There is a danger to actually understanding things I think, insofar as it rather ruins what most people consider fun. Lots of folks like reading resumes to “discover a new talent!”, whereas like you I find it basically an exercise in attempting not to walk out and hit the local pub. And then movies, especially ones that try to be “historical” or which try to pass idiotic premises are possible. I’m a nightmare to go to one of those kinds of movies with, shit, I bother me when I go to them. Just can’t enjoy them because I’m literally picking every detail apart, nearly subconsciously.
“What? Are you kidding me? That’s not a Russian jet fighter, it’s an American T-38 training jet!”
“You can’t be serious?! There is no way for all of the communication protocol layers to align between an alien computer system and an earth computer system that would allow the humans to hack the aliens computers and display a pirate flag on their consoles!”
And so on. Agh.
I do the same thing…not with historical movies, but general nonsense similar in scope to the Independence Day scene you referenced. Drives my wife nuts…which is why I do it. 😀
I don’t ever plan on working for a corporation again. But it would be nice if there was some sort of small comment or item we could throw on a resume that was a sign of neomasculinity. Like how back at one time flashing your freemason ring to a judge, cop, angry guy in bar, would get you out of trouble.
Like in fight club, the scars and bruises on the face.
Perhaps Roosh can sell a signet ring.
I don’t know how cuck the Freemasons have gone. Neomaculinists need their own “cult”.
You fucking Nazi!
Heh. Thanks.
And yes, in junior high there was a typing class, on old typewriters even, with ink ribbons. We had to make fake business letters but we could put in any name we wanted, since we were graded on format, speed, etc.
We used names like “Mike Hunt” and “Hue G. Rection”. Never heard the female teacher complain about that but she was at it a long time and probably seen it all. 😀
Awesome. Took typing in Grade 8 (back in 1970) because there would be mostly girls (24 girls, 3 of us like-minded young men). Folks at the lab and office are still agog at how I ‘type like a secretary.
My son is in Grade 8 now, gave him the same advice. Not only has he taken my advice, he is doing Drama class too, in order to ‘have to interact’ with girls he would not otherwise. That was his idea.
I’m telling you, guys in drama are typically ridiculed by the other, more popular, groups, but there’s plenty of girls to go around. I was big into theatre and drama my senior year of high school. I played a few major roles in some plays and even a musical. Shortly after I graduated one of my friends still in high school told me I had an unofficial fan club of girls from music and drama. I was like “You couldn’t have told me this earlier?!?” If you’re not a total dweeb and stay in decent shape (I did both), drama is a good stomping ground.
Mike Rowe used to sing in musicals, and was in drama. He was asked how such a burly, masculine man like him managed, and his answer was (paraphrase) “I was a 20 year old man, performing with seven women and three men, two of the men were gay and I was straight, in shape and dressed as a pirate. What wasn’t to like?”
I was Boris Renfield from “Dracula: The Musical?”, a spoof of Dracula. I had the best lines and my musical bits had the audience howling. It’s a fun little musical to watch. In all honesty, it’s probably why I got any attention from the girls. It was a goofy, funny role.
Thanks for the heads up on what my son may be up against (and looking forward to). He does competitive gymnastics and dirt bikes so he already has the kind of chops that puts him in good stead with the ‘popular groups’.
I’ve been prepping him for what to expect in Life as we live in Vancouver Canada. Lefties, Hipsters, HR People, PC run amok, The CBC, Davie Street, Rape Culture On Campus, White Skin BAD Coloured Skin GOOD. Every ill blamed on Man, every catastrophe blamed on (Man-Made) Global Warming.
Not to mention there are some true redpill wisdoms to be seen from drama… I was never a drama student, but I think if one immersed one’s self in drama, it would soon be self evident how women are the same whether on or off the stage.
Tell him not to neglect his lower body. This can be an issue sometimes with gymnasts.
Mike may have been straight when he was 20, but it is my understanding from reliable peeps in Cali, that he is not now.
If he’s riding bikes and stays fit he’ll be fine bro. But yes in Canada (especially BC/Ont/Que) people are fucking retarded as to how the world actually works. Coming from an Albertan haha.
I took typing as an elective in HS because it fit my schedule. Never thought I would be using it daily.
Mmmm… doughnuts.
I tend to shy away from walls of text because I favor economy of speech.
Due to the backwater ways of Vermont, millennial children -at least when I was in school during the early 2000s- were taught typing on computers in a graded class. Then again we also had “Character Attribute of the Month”, so it was a double edged sword.
It depends, with me. A good pro comment will have me engaged from sentence one to conclusion, no matter how long. People who do the wall of text with no real point or a stupid point, yeah, I hear ya’
Yep I learned to type. Even people my own age look at me in wonder at how quickly I type. I tell them that they are just one, one week class away from typing as well.
It’s a wonder at how few will walk away thinking “I need to learn that” isn’t it? I can’t convince my son to take a simple typing course or online program. In his defense, he turns wrenches, shoots guns and is going into mechanical engineering, so I’ll float him the benefit of the doubt on this.
That’s okay, the Muslims know how to deal with female cuntiness…
Yeah, they do, if you don’t mind having your young sons used as sex toys by wretched old men as a trade off.
My comment is a joke. I already know that most whites and most muslims in the west will BOTH be dead in 10-20 years maximum.
So there won’t be the opportunity for what you described to happen en masse, because the society will be going down a different and much worse route.
Interesting comment. While there can be an argument made for the wiping out whitey, where do you come to the conclusion that Muslims are on the chopping block? They seem to be reproducing at a rather frightening rate.
1) iIf it’s the “White race” you care about then don’t worry. The Russians will save it and they have nukes and real leaders who are not afraid to break balls.
2) The USA will go out like Rome first. North America was never a “white continent” to begin with”. What remains will in part be mixed. It’s also notable that nobody calls mixed race people white (unless the media wants to demonize someone, like that “white Hispanic” bullshit when Saint Trayvon got his well deserved bullet) . If you were to knock up a black woman, everybody will say “Your kids will be black!” when in fact, the kids will be mixed and not as black as purely black people. And amongst blacks there is even discrimination between the “shades” of black. Yes it’s true. There are blacks who want to the same racial purity of whites. They are tired of mixed people calling themselves “black” just as much as we would be if they called themselves “white”. “Hispanic” is an invented race, BTW. They were actually considered native American for the short darker mestizo types and the European descended central and South American mixed were considered white (like my friend from Chile, whose mother had blonde hair and blue eyes).
Whites are not weak per se, though their leadership has been killed off and this has killed off the ‘direction’ of the masses. Whites are naive as to who is doing this to them and why. They are in a politically bad situation due to brainwashing. It doesn’t matter that muslims reproduce quickly, they are not as ‘advanced’ as whites in many areas, though whites are dysgenic in embracing feminist values and not reproducing.
The idea is to get whites and muslims to mutually annihilate each other, and this will be successful to a large extent, all under guidance of the banker of course. It is unacceptable for these groups to fight each other, when they are being manipulated to do so, instead of bonding against a common enemy.
Putin’s dad was a rabbinical scholar, and Communism in Russia saw it go from mostly white to 20-25% white european. The other whites there are ‘asiatic’ and have no need for a white revival – rather, they are opposed to it. That’s why America needs the Communist ideals according to the international clique of bankers – because Russia is already owned and is controlled opposition.
So NO the Russians will not come to save the day! If there is a WW3, the remaining whites in Russia will be liquidated (=killed) and the Russia-Chinese Communist axis will destroy the American whites. The bankers run both sides of the conflict, so they always benefit from any war.
Very good points here. When one stops treating women as equal (as men) and has different (not lower, different) expectations from her, then it is so easy to maintain frame, and not react emotionally to them. Children will come up and say silly or offensive things–hey you look dumb in that red shirt.. well no guy is going to lose frame or argue with the child over how the shirt is cool. But I think we have all made similar mistakes with women.
The root of all these problems is letting women affect your emotions. Arguing with them. Pleading with them. Getting their opinion on everything. This only leads to failure and disappointment. And when you stop pedestalizing them and realize that it is far worse to disappoint one of your friends than it is to be rejected by 100 women, you will stop caring about the outcome of your approaches, and have more success.
Ask yourself, do you REALLY HONESTLY value the opinion of the next woman you approach? If not, then don’t sweat it if she is open to your advances or not. After all, she’s just a woman. Do you care if your niece or nephew likes your car?
One of the great things about discourse is that “little thoughts” one might not have could occur later and fill out our perception on things.
(this is the lighter side of “the power of argument”).
Reading your reply made me realize why a lot of betas and regular Joes out there have a hard time approaching women.
It appears that the leap from pedastalizing women and hanging our self worth or esteem on what they say to cold-approaches or various forms of day/night/commute game is a very long leap indeed.
Maybe too long for a lot of fellows. The mindset needed to approach women is too far departed from the “default state” that most fellows are in with women.
Therefore I think if our advice is followed (don’t argue with them, don’t treat them as equals, etc.) then the mindset of Game is closer than it would normally be. Much is said about how too many men study game and never use it. I think this is approaching the reason why. From pedastalizing beta simp to belt-notching alpha needs some kind of stable ground that makes the path to success easier.
Its like anything you have to get comfortable with discomfort. Then you don’t notice anymore. Most people just sit in comfort and never move, until the discomfort is thrust upon them. I always thought Jack Welch’s policy of firing 10% of the workforce every year. It was the thing everyone hated doing the most, but every year in internal polling they said it was the most important thing to the business.
You know what though? This applies to feminists and SJWs. I keep telling guys not to engage them and the response is “but we have to prove them wrong”.
You can’t prove them wrong but their standard of proof exists only in their brain. So arguing with them is futile. When you refuse to argue with a woman she has no power. Likewise, with a feminist.
LOL! The shirt thing. I had a chick criticize a sweater I was wearing in a photo. She seemed really indignant about it (“how could you wear that?”). As the sweater was pretty nondescript, I just looked at her with a slightly puzzled expression and then carried on like she had said nothing.
Turtleneck?
Crew. I should add that she was far from a Style Icon herself.
Im picturing Al B. Sure circa 1991
Your opinion will crush a woman. Good to keep that in mind.
Exactly. They live and breathe for compliments. It explains all of their behavior. Any even slightly negative attention will totally sink them. It’s like getting in the head of an athlete.
“They live and breathe for compliments”
A single woman tweeted out last night “no one loves her”- this woman is gorgeous, successful, and has a few mill in the bank
All the dummy “fans” telling her shes beautiful, etc…
correct response “no wonder…you are an attention seeking 6 who is prancing around pretending she is an 8”
She would have done the classic “ill show him. I will suck his cock better than anyone has ever sucked it before and then never call him again. That will teach him”
Yea, and athlete in the fuck-o-lympics
The problem is AMERICAN women. I learned the hard way and finally decided to go foreign. I never knew the option existed or I would have done this many years ago. If you like a domestic life of hell and living with a wicked nasty rude and disrespectful WITCH, then go ahead and marry an American woman. I wouldn’t even date one. If you do and the relationship doesnt work out and you break up with her, you very possibly will find yourself in jail being accused of rape. My advice is to avoid them like the EBOLA virus.
Absolutely agreed. Anything millennial or under is absolute garbage. My problem is I’m currently living in America, I don’t even like dating foreign girls here unless they were *raised* abroad. Are you living foreign or just married a foreigner? That’s the big question for me.
Good points.
You can also ask yourself are you going to get emotional over someone who is suffering of tourette syndrome and throwing insults at random?
Surely you are not. So why let woman’s behavior affect you? For they do not know obviously what they’re doing.
Just take it clinically – if she earns reward for her actions, greet her – if she fucks up, walk and never look back.
I realized that by watching them argue.
In an argument woman hardy ever use logic. They will only argue with their feelings, if something is “fair-unfair” for them, and whether if they can do better. So, when women argue they will try to manipulate your feelings and trick you into giving in by: Shaming and humiliating you (Denigrating you or comparing you to others who are better than you i.e. their exes); Being angry at you, yelling at you; Guilt trips (Reminding you of past mistakes you have made); Sadness and crying (Trying to trigger the male protection instinct).
The male’s brain is wired to have emotional spikes so it’s hard for us to confront them on an equal emotional level. While in those spikes we tend to lose control and that’s when violence takes in. The way to win the emotional battlegrounds is by having the upper hand / leverage, by keeping it cool, not giving a damn about it, or having something they desperately wants like social status. The easiest way to lose leverage is by begging to a woman. If you beg, you already lost and if in a LTR they will use that against you by manipulating you in the foreseeable future. That’s one of the reasons why psychopaths can lure women, they aren’t attached to their emotions i.e. Ted Bundy. This is why as children we are taught not to show emotion: “boys don’t cry”, because we lose leverage to a woman and with other men we look bad.
Women only use logic to justify their own (stupid) decisions. That’s why they are with the drunken guy who beats them up, they can’t see the logic of not being with him, but they listen to their feelings and will rationalize into being with him anyway, like maybe one day he’ll change. That’s why they have social movements in which they will have be protected or won’t be held accountable for the consequences of the (stupid) decisions they make.
It follows that you will never hook-up with a woman by using logic, NEVER.
Excellent points. I tend to think about interesting but remote and abstract things when they start their predictable rants- other times I just burst out laughing at the absurdity of what’s just been said- this can throw a lot of women, especially if there’s another person present at the time.
I have, and I’m not afraid to, kick them out of my house. Yes I’ve done it, pointing at the door saying “not today, not ever. GTFO”.
They always come back.
There is only one application of logic for use by a man when dealing with women.
This means that if you are purely logical, you would not be dealing with women at all beyond getting some need met.
And that logic in an LTR? Yes. For this reason:
When a man is the one who decides first if he wants progeny, and then logically seeks out a woman capable of delivering healthy babies and taking care of them and the household those children will grow up in (in many aspects).
This notion is to feminists what a cross is to a vampire. Because a cornerstone of feminist leftoid cultural Marxism is “non-judgementalism” and they adhere to this concept like gospel. Notably, men never decide on progeny, or even marriage. It’s usually thirsty beta settling with some fatass he can get to marry him (after she rides the carousel for her better years) then she decides she wants babies then she decides she wants a divorce and to keep the house and money.
“Who are you to judge” the cuntocracy asks.
I know exactly who I am and yes I will judge.
I think the emotional test is on purpose, because a man needs to get over fear in order to hunt or go to war. A man without courage is like an ugly woman.
Yeah, I think it’s a mix, some of them are on purpose and others are unconscious. But you’re correct it’s about testing their mettle. I think that’s one of the purpose of male bantering with each other, also because its fun.
Of all the virtues, Plato considered courage as the fundamental one, much like Augustine considered pride to be the source of all sin.
“It will escalate on her terms and it will go into flying-object hellish rages with her screaming at the top of her lungs and throwing things..”
I have mentioned this once before, but when she starts with the rage deva –whip out your iPhone and start recording pronto. It will infuriate her even more along with smiling and remaining calm. Start recording every time she starts talking and send the vids to your email to be stored as she will eventually come down and try and delete the drama. You can do some behavior conditioning (think Pavlov’s dogs) via iPhone, but I would hope you would be long gone before the 2nd act.
i love to read your stuff. age and experience has quite polished – or should i say roughened – your mindset, so to speak.
women are not equal. not at all. but i always thought … yes, what did i think? i always thought: how would i feel if someone treated me like that?
well, girls react to certain treatment completely different to men, it seems. where a man would seriously consider to hurt you, a girl will coo and laugh.
why did i think we were equal? because i had – and have – a lot of misdirected / projected emotions. i feel something and think she is feeling it. i think something and think she is thinking it. it works both ways: that way, i sometimes felt like a woman and sometimes i saw features in women that i was only experiencing in myself.
as a rule of thumb: whenever you feel like your emotion or judgment is outside of yourself, you are probably distracting yourself from your own judgment and emotions in favor of being a pussy inspector.
you do not do X because you do not want to hurt her? external.
correct / truth: you do not do X because you do not want to feel guilt.
bam. responsibility back in your hands.
and suddenly you wonder how you ever thought that they were equal even in the farthest sense.
they are whole different beasts.
Years of lies, propaganda, and conditioning is how we end up mistaking them for being equals.
And the cultural Marxists knew exactly what they were doing when they started this.
It is the ultimate mind-fuck, insisting that white is black and up is down, when secretly deep down even they know the truth.
Not only do they know the truth (if you were talking about women and I didn’t misunderstand you), they actually welcome it.
I think I did get your post wrong.. Don’t mind me.
Masses that confuse up for down cannot think for themselves and cannot project accurate outcomes. When ‘kept’ in this way, they’re more managable and controllable.
and movies. for me, that may be one of the biggest factors. about all i learned about sexuality comes from movies. did you see the new maze runner movie? i think i am starting to look behind the mechanism of the propaganda.
you gotta show the bitches in positions of authority where they are respected and feared and obeyed without questions asked, without men wanting to overtake – oh why, wanting to be on top is childish. yeah, childish, but women can want it. but not because they are selfish, god beware, but because they are just the ‘better’ creatures.
show a movie scene where a guy looks towards a naked woman and another guy takes his hand to turn the guy’s head away from it, with an admonishing gaze. you fucking assholes! you are so fucking dishonest i want to puke! damn sheep!
but in the movie, nobody protests. so i learn that it is not worth protesting. that everybody is just a fucking sheep and resistance is futile. that the best way is to just keep low and act ‘respectful’ = ‘obedient’.
and how can you protest in cinema, right? you can shout ‘bitch, fuck you’, but people will get angry at ya.
it is all fucking lies, narcissism, appearance, superficialities, looking cool. i feel so darn betrayed it breaks my heart. you just can not fucking trust anyone. and i guess it would not be that bad if everybody did not pretend to be your friend. but who am i accusing, i was not better. i was the pretender no. 1.
Key to happiness and most other things when dealing with others. Set limits and boundaries on behavior you are willing to deal with. Which means leave the situation if its getting out of control or going to a place you need not go. terminate the relationship quickly if the woman cannot abide by decent human behavior. You do not need to babysit 20-25 years of bad b.s. Maintaining Frame is very true. If enough women get dumped they will change, they will be forced to or end up flying solo. Be good with yourself. Do not let anyone else be in control of your happiness. or make you RESPONSIBLE for theirs ! Find a good circle of friends to be your support group. Do not make women the sole focus of your life.
Dr Jeep, the woman/child comparison is timelessly true. Ever notice how a mother will get into a cat fight with one of her own children. It escalates tit for tat between mom and child like she is a child herself. An adolescent girl often gets physical with her mom and you have to break the two of them up like you’re a middle school dean trying to separate two 13 yo’s ripping each other’s hair out. The mom will scream and blurt out the same level of immature cat calls that the kid does. If mom is on head pills, they likely won’t work on her for awhile, and you’re lucky if you have a syringe loaded with tranquilizer to jab in mom’s ass to make her take a nap and avoid the WN/muh’G’ cops. The 13 yo is fine if you send the kid with 5 bucks to run and get you a sub sandwitch to split. The kid will cool down but an old cat like mom will still lunge out for awhile depending on her normal control level of hypergamy and depending how she levels out in between her flaming estro peak periods.
A woman’s life is nothing but ‘in between’ times of stability which repeatedly come to an end and are punctuated by bouts of psychosis. ‘STUFFED AND PRODUCING’ is the only stable path in life for a woman, reproducing nonstop throughout her entire fertile span. She becomes ‘tops’ utilizing her every facet, tits, limbs, cardio, much like an optimized male triathelete tones and utilizes every muscle and his mind and is rewarded with nirvana like highs. Michelle Duggar come to mind? This optimum ‘stable’ lifespan for a woman runs roughly 2.5 decades, but they can’t do it alone. Your job is to stuff ’em and keep ’em stuffed.
You make excellent points here, and one in particular bears further attention. Many men on this site have a bitter, spiteful attitude toward women because they have found women to be untruthful, erratic. illogical, duplicitous or cowardly. In short, they don’t like women because they have discovered that women are not men. Perhaps they were expecting a tranny. In any case, once you adopt a patronizing attitude toward wome, and understand them for who they are, then you can be much more compassionate and affectionate toward them and even manifest the instinctive protectiveness that we naturally feel.
arguing with a woman, on anything. 100% correct.
Once you start to argue you’ve taken the bait. And the more you try to get her to see reason the deeper the hole you dig for yourself which then makes it harder to extract yourself from because you’ve emotionally invested yourself in the argument which is what she wants.
If a woman tries to bait you into an argument simply tell her in a calm and controlled manner to shut up. Then you’re free to do whatever the fuck you want.
Arguing with women: Two key points. Stay away from women who like to argue. Second, not arguing with the others is key. If a woman contradicts you, you simply ignore it. She will soon come round to your way of thinking because that is what she wants. She says “but I want to do it this way” – well if it doesn’t directly affect you, let her do it. Eventually she will see your right direction. A woman wants to please her man but arguing with her triggers her defiance. Lead her by example.
Following these two rules, I had a relationship with a chick for an entire year without a single argument. Not one. Personal record me and probably her too.
its fine to argue with women and insult them so long as you have a sense of humor you can get away with anything ,
I agree with you. Women who have a grasp of logic might be interesting drinking buddies or divorce attorneys, but these are not women you want to date. For the rest who have no concept of logic, it is a losing proposition to argue or debate or whatever. You just trump words with action.
Stay away from women who whip out the ipad to verify everything you say is accurate…
I usually just tell them that their iPad is wrong… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e49a36fdeddf054ab48b38758808147ced9c7662ee080532ed75d0dc70268f6c.jpg
Brava!
It’s misfortunate the author fails to realize that a heavy enough speedball of phenibut and kratom will remove all emotions permanently. C’mon guys.
Never isolate yourself from your more permanent relations when gaming women. If women are your whole world, their fluctuations in behavior affect you more.
I have said this before: the key to getting all the girls you want is to want only one girl. Obviously, it takes wisdom, trust and courage that the one girl you want is the right girl.
if i’m reading you correctly lance, you have a very stoic perspective! loving the things we have (in this case a gf/wife) more and more, rather than loving what we don’t have (ie. other women).
I would not call myself stoic, although you are correct . . . the way I say it is “the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.” My life is filled with love, joy and a meaningful relationship with my wife and children . . . I just can’t imagine anything more fulfilling. The “dark side of game” as Troy puts it, is not where I would find joy.
I always like the image of the drill instructor, shelling out brutal insults like in full metal jacket, as an image to prepare you for life. This constant loud aggressive voice telling you the worst, making loud your deepest doubts, never the less you have to continue on, make your way, and succeed. In pickup the woman you are talking too can be that drill instructor. What are you even wearing? Eeeew you smell. Lame.
“where they can safely deny the efficacy of game in a mutual circle jerk that assuages nothing.” (1 of the lines that reminds me why ROK is a daily read for me) << This year has really marked the end of me testing established game concepts. There was never a denial, but like many, I had to be sure other men’s experience were 100% on par with what I was witnessing.
Like a Christian reading the Bible as the truth, so did it become my indoctrination. I remained hyper-aware this year, like never before. Every single time, myself, or someone I knew varied more than apx. 10-15% off any tenant of game, they got fucked, and/or things went awry, with marginal recovery. The higher the girl’s SMV, the slighter that percentage was before implosion.
I hate fighting women, but this year I selectively interjected small fights to maintain tension with some, which has resulted in longer sexual relations. You can’t always stomp out their bullshit with an army boot, sometimes you have to play the annoying part of the game. Never before have I accepted such little shit from women than this year. They absolutely love you for it, and it will keep them coming back. The lows aren’t as low as they used to be, and the highs, while predictable, occur much more often than the lows.
I will not judge guys who are completely mercenary and have no emotions while they fuck themselves into oblivion.
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However, a man can learn to MANAGE his emotions. At this point, watch the movie Equilibrium to get two or three minutes of red pill wisdom. You have to choose to feel.
As far as fear and approach anxiety goes look at it this way. American women are cowards and will never put themselves on the line and risk the possibility of being rejected. She could want you worse than anything but WILL NOT approach you ever. That’s where there coming from. Don’t be like them.
That said, when I lived in England I got hit on alot. I thought I was in paradise. Lol.
This ‘dark side’ of pua with the feeling of loss, pointlessness and meaninglessness sounds eerily like some sort of ‘WALL’. Do pua’s hit this ‘wall’ like their carouselling counterparts do with their ‘wall’? If the end game for pua is family, then there is no wall but a finish line, unless you’re polygamist in which case the game continues in a sense, still all the old practice pick up pays off and the primo game still surfaces when a choice virgin enters the field. Aaah, another family to chalk up for the west. Raw assault that cherry. The west thanks you. Going into old age with pua only, with a raincoat and regarding raw like it’s a treat or like it’s only for the annointed would start to diminish the man and make him question whether he counts. Family counts. When feminism crumbles, the dicks of the west will once again become flaming araw like olympic toarches. (french horn sound) ”duu-tu-duu-bu-dum-bum-bum”
When you have achieved what Troy is talking about you will find that women seem to approach you. They are not really, more like they are simply falling into your orbit like a small meteor. You can then simply reach out and take them.
For my own part, I don’t much enjoy one night stands. I like to enjoy a woman for a good while before sending them on their way. But everyone has their own style.
As Adolf Hitler said in Mein Kampf, the only question in the history of our times is: Will the titanic and final struggle of humanity turn out for the benefit of the White Aryan, or the benefit of the scheming Jew and his swarming army of colored inferiors? The Jew is the enemy of mankind.
Lift weights, make money, fuck bitches. . .That’s it. The sum total of the red pill manosphere PUA bullshit knowledge amounts to that.
And we all did that for awhile. Some still do. Depends on what each man wants out of his life — if they can figure that out.
Most successful men do that, but I think that true happiness comes out of a spiritual understanding of who you are.
I think you missed the 2014 manosphere reformation under Pope Roosh V the First.
Ha ha. I say this a bit tongue in cheek. At the risk of committing an etymological crime, the fourth part of neomasculinity is its quintessence. That is a spiritual foundation for building who you are.
This seems like the best article to write this here;
I need a little advice from a game perspective. I’ve been talking with this girl for about a month and her boyfriend recently dumped her. She texted me because she wanted to talk soon after it happened. A simple “Can we talk?” I had told her I was too busy, which I really was. I didn’t even have to fake not being too available, which I suppose is part of game.
I’ve already heard the usual “be a good friend to her right now ” advice, but the thing is I actually like this girl and I’m not trying to get friend-zoned like so… SO many times before when I didn’t know about game. (Its also incredibly difficult to find single women in this area) I also don’t want to take advantage of her in a vulnerable state, which I’m not sure if game requires me to do so .
Basically I’m just asking for advice. How long to wait before letting her know what’s up, how to treat her in this time, that type of thing. She texts me first and almost daily, more often than I’ll text her. If that means anything.
Thanks in advance.
you better make damn sure she broke up. A friend wound up in a love triangle (neither guy knew til she blew the whistle)- Jacked military showed up wanting to beat the crap outta him (One guy goes to jail, the other, the ER).
Damn. Definitely don’t need none of that.
Don’t go the “be a good friend to her” route. Your missing the big picture perspective. You’ve only been talking to her a month. I’d say that makes you an acquaintance and not a friend. Sure, be friendly towards her. BUT you’ve not know this person long enough for them to dump their problems on you. This isn’t a friend zone issue as much as an emotional boundary issue.
That’s a very good point. Thanks for that. So far she doesn’t seem to be very talkative about her breakup.
If she isn’t talking about her break up with you it is a good sign. Either she is private about that part of her life or she doesn’t want to talk about him to you. Both very good.
I may be booed or get a “GTFO” for this but I like when a guy does the old fashioned first moves. Things such as putting his arm around my shoulder, holding my hand, or guiding me through a crowd (or after opening a door) by placing his hand on my back.
To me these are protective and trust worthy body language signals. Sadly, they aren’t done frequently these days. Most guys go from a not touching at all move to going for a kiss. And things just feel awkward to go from no contact to a lot of contact suddenly.
She texted me as soon as she got home that night, and with absolutely no desire to talk about her now-ex. I’d say that must be a pretty good sign.
I’ve already been touching her before this point so that it wouldn’t be a surprise to her if I ever was to make a move, but I’m going to make sure to keep it up and escalate.
Hello Damian,
I am not sure if you know Mark Manson? I really like his articles. On one article he wrote: If you have to ask for advice about a girl, you have already lost her.
On a different note: Why don’t you just do what feels right to you and if it doesn’t work out with that girl, you will have learnt a lesson and can do it differently if there is a next time.
I am really trying to help, although it might not come across like that!
Best wishes,
Weltenbummler
Thanks man. I think a lot of my issues with women over the years stem from overthinking a situation. If I let one bad experience affect me, I would start analyzing the next one trying to avoid the outcome of the previous one.
You could always ask “A Pimp Named Slickback” for a ho. [/joking]
L-o-l
” I also don’t want to take advantage of her in a vulnerable state”
I used to think like this back in my nice guy days( before game)
A breakup is an emotional high point.
whenever there is an emotional high-point(positive or negative) like a breakup or her dog dies or she wins the lottery,etc… YOU ESCALATE.
This is why breakup sex,angry sex are all popular since their emotions are heightened at those times.
She is more than ready to sleep with anyone at this emotional high point and would rationalize it later as something which “just happened”.
Earlier I used to avoid girls who needed to “just talk” in order to avoid the friend-zone or being that friend who is her shoulder to cry on.(correct thing to do most of the times)
After game, you realize that you can use it in your favor…..especially if she is HOT and you want her badly.
Tip for next time you in a situation like this…..
Tell her to bring drinks(under the pretense that it would ease the pain or atleast make sure you have drinks at your place) make up some sad sob story of yours to build that comfort/ connection…..and then escalate.
Modern women give it up so easily.
What makes you think she doesn’t just want a shoulder to cry on and then rebound sex to make her feel that she is still sexually viable to men?
I would say you are probably not going to be “Mr. Right” for her because she just exited her relationship involuntarily and probably still has the hots for the ex. But there is no reason you can’t be “Mr. Right Now” and it sounds like she wants you to be.
There just has to be immediate, and regular “payments” for you to be her male emotional dishrag, or else you’ll get to hear all of the sorrow and some other guy will get bang the hell out of that poozy.
I don’t know that that’s happening. She texted me when she got home the night that happened, and with that conversation and the ones after she has not brought him up. She only talked about him when she was first telling me about the break up. But you’re right though, I’m definitely not trying to lose her to some other dude… which is what always happened to me before I found game advice.
As for the whole sex thing, she may actually be a unicorn-that is, actually -not- that type of girl. I’m approaching that possibility cautiously.
“Its also incredibly difficult to find single women in this area”
Given your comment above, I will add that with me there has been a number of times with girls that I thought were fantastic and they just broken up with their bf and I didn’t want to look desperate & pounce on them,so gave them a bit of space before I’d make a move on them…only to find out she is already going out with some guy she just met during the week or that weekend (they weren’t devastated with the breakup tho). For sweet cute easy going girls the window of opportunity can be very small. Don’t be aloof for too long.
I agree with Hunter on his post below
You are analyzing too much. Don’t reply to every text she sends you. Go hang out with her. Don’t bring up the ex. Make her laugh and have a good time. Keep it lite and have fun, but at the same time show intent via kino escalation.
Quintessential article, Troy.
I’ve given up long ago on trying to assuage, control and/or manipulate women’s emotional states. First, because it is very difficult (unless you’re a dark triad) and time-consuming as stated in Roosh’s recent “The way of the pimp” article. Second, even when you succeed, it’s a hollow victory. This means for me, even if it ends losing any particular girl, I still live life on my terms – not hers. As I age and my options increase, oneitis isn’t as much of a problem as a fart in the wind. Much recommended post for any man.
Game is like poker, you need to hide your emotions. And the best way to do that is to have no emotions.
That’s kinda tough to do for an extended period of time because we are all emotional beings and they will get their outlet somehow, some way eventually. Its like the people that say they don’t need carbs until one day, their brain, a major glucose hog, says “the heck with this” and they go on a $25.00 binge down at the local Dunkin Donuts (hopefully before Arianna Grande got there)
If a real hot women walks by you, can you deny to yourself that she just does it for you?
I believe the true key is to acknowledge your emotions are there and the power they can wield if not kept in check.
Good advice. The GF starting with a sudden cancellation of our plans and then went silent. I can guess that a transgression on my part was the cause (guilty but it shouldn’t be a capital offense.) After getting the idea during the first couple of days that the silent treatment was serious and would continue, I went silent too.
Then I emailed her “My Plan” on Day Four. I told her to go ahead and give me the silent treatment for a week or so, then call me and yell at me, then when we meet again, punch me a few times (girl punches of course). Then I’d look her in the eyes and apologize and we could proceed with our long term plans. She loves humor and teasing.
But if I didn’t hear from her after a week, then “I’ll start anew.”
Women are emotional creatures. When they get worked up, let them vent and work through it emotionally. But set limits. If she can’t cool down and think rationally about our long term life together within a week, then she’s not the partner for me.
Of course, maybe she was looking for an excuse to breakup. So be it. Better sooner than later.
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Ok this is something I want to know, why the fuck do we even care about relationships with women? we are clearly just placeholders, who have to discipline them by not being too nice, deal with their shitty arguments, deal with them trying everything under the sun to get a reaction out of us like a bratty child.
It’s not a real relationship, you have no bond with that female, the second you stop doing these things then the relationship falls apart, and she finds another guy to make her pussy wet and a guy that will do all the things that you stopped doing.. It’s a load of bullshit, why even bother?
Notice how the article talks about how men need to change their behavior in a way which will be acceptable or pleasing to women? More accurately, AMERICAN women. I didn’t see an author’s name but most likely a female. The problem is the awful,nasty and demeaning behavior of American women towards men and their fantasy belief that they are above men,more valuable than men in society, a higher intelligence being than men, that they are in charge of the household, the husband must obey the wife, they are the sole parent and owner of the children and that filing false police reports of child molestation,rape, sexual harassment and spousal abuse is perfectly justified to achieve their goals of control of the children,financial gain or revenge. It’s the AMERICAN woman that is the problem. It is the AMERICAN women that must change THEIR behavior in a way which is acceptable to men. We are MEN, they are WOMEN. Men are MASCULINE, women are FEMININE. Men are STRONGER and BIGGER, women are WEAKER and SMALLER. GOT IT?