Citi Encourages Women To Shun Marriage

Citi’s popular 2012 ad featuring a female rockclimber is anti-marriage propaganda that caters to the female fantasy of perpetual courtship. The rockclimber’s gravy train rolls on indefinitely thanks to free resources in the form of buying on credit, a supportive provider boyfriend, and the possibility of pivoting to a higher status man after the vacation.

Unfortunately for women who follow the example set in this ad, perpetual courtship is a dangerous game. The rock climber is on pace to slam head first into the wall in about five years. Her appearance will bear scars in the form of crows’ feet, looser and rougher skin, more coarse hair, and a diminished youthful glow. At that point, it will be a challenge for her to find a man willing to commit who is half as appealing as the boyfriend in the ad.

Introduction

The commercial opens with the woman peering into a glass counter display. The height of the counter and arrangement of the room suggests a jewelry store. We cannot see what is behind the glass. The woman hands over her credit card, and continues to stare longingly at whatever it is she just purchased.

The next scene reveals that she was shopping for rock climbing supplies to bring on her expedition with her boyfriend. New shoes and nylons. The narrator makes it clear that she is no girly girl. Instead of high heels, only unsightly rockc limbing cleats.

Nylons are a clever way of referring to the climbing ropes. Yes, here we have an independent woman unburdened by societal expectations of femininity. A woman so independent that she purchased this gear on her own, enabling her to accumulate those valuable credit card points.

On second thought, she may be less self-sufficient than the ad wants us to assume. Imagine all the credit card points she would earn by putting the plane tickets, hotel room, and meals on the card. But we don’t hear a word about those expenses. That’s not what her Citi card is for. That’s what her boyfriend is for. This vivacious, magnetic and super-independent woman splurges for the “nylons” while her boyfriend covers all the real shit.

 

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A Woman Uninterested In Marriage

And speaking of the boyfriend, it’s clear he has been trying to cajole her into marriage. “We talked about getting a diamond… but I hoisted the rock I really had in mind.” You go girl!

The boyfriend’s pseudo-proposal of “hey maybe we should talk about maybe someday getting engaged if you want” will always be there, but the opportunity to climb this big rock… Better act fast and do it now before several more millennia of erosion cause it to crumble into an unscalable heap.

Also, why is there a binary choice between getting engaged and rockclimbing? They can’t do both? No, the reason she postpones marriage is she has no desire to be tied down.

A Woman Dominant In All Aspects Of Her Relationship

Look at the boyfriend during the climbing scenes. His girlfriend takes the lead as the kick-ass adventurer. He’s just along for the ride to stare up at her supportively.

See how as she straps on all her gear, he follows her like a trained puppy. It’s clear she is in control, whether it’s deciding what to do on vacation or deciding how they will spend the rest of their lives.

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A Woman Who Takes Male Attention For Granted

Underlying this woman’s psychology is that to her, male attention is a given – a constant that will always be there. When she has her fill of the courtship dance, she can snap her fingers and accept commitment from this boyfriend, some other man from her past, or a man who she hasn’t met yet.

What she doesn’t realize is her ability to extract future commitment offers from men has nothing to do with her passion for rock climbing and everything to do with her being slender, pleasant looking, and youthful. Those attributes do not last, and as they diminish, so does the status of the men willing to give her the time of day.

A Woman Looking For Something Better

This woman does not want to cut off her options by committing to the man she’s currently sleeping with. There may be a higher quality alpha male right around corner. After all, doesn’t her rockclimbing accomplishment make her more attractive to high status men? Time to ditch that zero and find a hero! Or at least continue being open to an opportunity for superior cock, should she encounter it while still being courted by her boyfriend.

The rock structure in the commercial is undeniably phallic, and the rockclimbing woman enthusiastically covers every surface of it as her boyfriend watches from below. A subliminal nod to cuckoldry.

Thanks to free and easy resources (due in part to credit spending courtesy of Citi) and social conventions that encourage women to indulge in the endless courtship model, this woman is approaching the end of her prime fertility years without any present desire for marriage and children.

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Citi’s Motivation

Why does Citi promote this lifestyle in a nationwide ad campaign? The most prolific credit spenders are single women. The longer a woman remains single, the more frivolous purchases she will rack up, and maybe she will carry a large outstanding balance on her card.

Of course someday she will extract commitment from a man who will pay it off. Greater interest charges for Citi and no default when it is all said and done.

But in reality the ad is probably just the brainchild fantasy of a female marketing professional (one who is fatter or uglier than the ad’s protagonist, with pitiful dating prospects), and everyone along the way nodded their head and conceded “good, this is empowering, let’s go with it.”

If women follow the example of this ad, they will end up with massive credit card debt and far less appealing marriage options than they have in their youth.

Read More: Why Are Men Becoming Less Interested In Marriage?

221 thoughts on “Citi Encourages Women To Shun Marriage”

  1. Great observations. The burden of credit is something that women are prone to abuse, and so it is no surprise that credit card companies would target girls in such a deceitful way.

      1. That makes tax evasion a rather easy moral question then.

  2. Citicard Should appeal to women like my wife.
    She cooks cleans takes care of the kid and has a job. She uses some of her money to buy lingerie which she shows me before purchasing. I then get the pleasure of seeing her in it on Saturday night. She use to buy the more expensive Victoria’s Secret lingerie that was getting out of control a bit, but now she gets sluttier cheaper stuff which I find much more appealing to see her in and much more accessible without having to remove it.

    1. It’s a shame that you don’t see more of that message in commercials……but then again that would send the wrong message (like women doing feminine things). Too many of these corporations are siding with the message “strong, independent (delusional) women” when they should be catering to more of the married, stay at home mothers taking care of business. They spend, too.

      1. The reality is these older women have the income to spend, but having these orbiters is not entirely true. The commercial implies that if she spends like that, she’ll be hot and guys would be swooning after her.
        Fail!

        1. Right. It’s so funny to see women trying to act like men and thinking that’s how you get the man (by being one). Sure, if he’s gay and needs a beard…then you are the right gal.
          Otherwise, start acting more feminine. Women should do their job (as the women) and let men do the job – as men. That’s how she’ll get a man to notice her – not by buying climbing gear. Corporations love it when they spend money, period. Women need to ignore these messages and start listening to men on what they want in a woman – a woman (not a woman trying to be a man).

        2. Nothing against a woman who wanta to climb, but doing it to imptess men is likely poor reasoning.
          I always thought you get a woman by acting womanly. Weird world.

        3. The reality is that the female suicide rate is going up, quite significantly. Over 1/3rd of western city dwelling women will never have children.

        4. I thought the same myself when pink colored firearms entered the market. Sure, it’s great if the woman likes to go shooting, but pink firearms are nothing more than attention seeking props on a range.

  3. I would love to know if it was a “man” who made that commercial.
    I am also reminded of an early family guy where a beer commercial showing two bikini clad women rubbing suntan lotion on each other and lois says
    “I bet a man made that commercial” to which peter replies
    “of course a man made it. it’s a commercial, not a delicious thanksgiving dinner”

    1. You can bet most “You go girl” commercials and ads are written by men. I worked in the travel retail industry and our main product was women’s jewelry. The stuff was wasn’t exactly crap jewelry but not top caliber either.
      I worked with the marketing manager and he taught me that it really doesn’t matter what you sell to women as long you sell them how they’ll FEEL about it.

      1. My boss was cheaper and not so cunning. He just heard of trends like BLOGs, so we had to have a blog. He thought it will get many many visitors and make us look hip no matter how shitty the content. WHY? Well, why, it is a BLOG! I told him to put it down as it was embarassing. Nah. BLOG is a status symbol. You just must have one. So ridiculous.
        And whenever he decided on a logo, he was a blind believer in the ‘housewife test’. No matter how good my arguments were: If the girls decided for something else, that was it. Extremely frustrating. Fucking cunt.
        Yeah, and later he sued me for something that nevet happened. Some people are just idiots. And likely intimidated by intelligence to the point they will not hesitate to put out all that shines bright.

        1. The attitude of people like your boss made me a fortune during the .com boom. I thank them every single day.

        2. at some point in 1999 my stock portfolio was doing incredibly well based on a very small amount of money I invested. Then I read an article about pets.com and about how despite their stock being over 100/share they had yet to turn a profit. I thought to myself…”i really have no fucking clue what I am doing wrt the stock market” and pulled all my dough out pre bubble collapse.

        3. wrt =with?
          Lucky, eh. I bought 3 of those bitcoins once. Kept rising to like 1000 USD. Then crash. Wanted to sell, but website was too slow. Then yhe website owners presumably took out all the money amd declared bankcruptcy, whilr first not allowing me to withdrsw my bitcoins due to ‘security concerns’. Wanted me to send them government proof of my identity. Then the bsnkruptcy. Millions gone. Pissrd me off, but kinda fun to witness. And I actually only now, that I tell you about it, realize what a smart scheme it was.

        4. wrt = with regard to
          I am sure that some people made a lot of gabonzo beans on bitcoin…I honestly don’t know much about it but it always had the smell of something that some very smart people convinced some very not smart people to throw money at.
          For me, I was young and had some little bit of money to invest and though…hey, computers be da futua. 2 years later I thought, ok…I seriously have no idea wtf I am doing here and if I cash out now I will have made a butt load of money. 1 year after that people were talking about killing themselves. I took my already held belief that I am considerably better than everyone else and multiplied it by a factor only known to people using kratom

        5. Haha. Your belief that you are considerably better than everyone else amuses me. In a good way. I like it. It is fun.
          Yeah, well, Bitcoin started as a nerd project. Back then you could buy a Pizza for 1000 Bitcoins. So those people who kept those bitcoins – just for fun – one day woke up and realized that their 10000 bitcoins are not worth 10 pizzas anymore, but 5 million dollars, right? So there goes. Naturally, you can likely not sell it off THAT quickly. But still. They are worth around 300 EUR today.
          Never knew much about the com bubble. All people here were whining about was the housing thing.
          But you know, I think a lot of this ‘wanting to kill oneself’ is not even any kind of rational fear. It is shame and fear of shame, I think. I am at the edge of financial extinction myself right now and I am kinda going through all that fear and realizing that in the end, it is nothing more than not wanting to be looked down on or not wanting to be homeless. But who really gives a fuck? I mean, the world does not consist of these closed up prisons we live in. If I lose my home in all earnesty, I will take a few months and just travel the country by bycicle and foot. Would be fun.

        6. While I am probably wrong about being considerably better than everyone else, I find life more palatable living under that assumption than any of the alternatives.
          I think I would like to study what went on with bitcoin. Very interesting.
          dot com bubble was my generations make or break. A lot of people made a fortune and a lot of people lost a fortune. The trick was being arrogant enough to invest while being humble enough to bail. As Kenny said, you got to know when to hold ’em and know when to fold ’em….especially when the gatlin boys come callin’ (sorry, had to bring in other song because I can’t mention Kenny without the gatlin boys).
          There is always some way for people to make money. I wish I was in Moscow at the time of the soviet collapse. I would be such an awesome Russian oligarch.

        7. I think that the need to feel better comes from the need to feel separate from others, which is a very valid need. Now, what is even better is when you can feel separate from others and looking at them with unashamed judgmentality and confidence without making ‘being better’ a requirement of that. But that is just what always was my own kind of problem. In the end, when you think about it, ‘better’ does not really mean anything. Better in what exactly? I will tell you what I think it means. I think when we grow up and our parents tell us to be ‘good’ boys, or even BEAT us into being good boys, we really end up being slaves to what other people think. What is the origin of ‘good’? Probably ‘god’. Christian morality. Be a ‘good’ person. What is morality? Of course obedience.
          So you find that being the best person – ends up meaning to be the most obedient and most willing to form yourself by what others expect you to be through their perceptions of ‘good’ and ‘better’.

        8. That’s one way to think of it. I side with Freddy N though…good is power.

        9. Ah. I like that viewpoint, yes. Then again, these days, I see power more as a necessity than an end in itself. I used to want power because other people had had power over me. I wanted revenge. Now, I see power just as a tool to get what you want. A girl maybe. A luxury lifestyle, if you wish for that. Whatever. But generally, I am drifting towards that idea that is presented in that ‘Think and Grow Rich’ book. Find peace and present your wishes to Infinite Intelligence. The cosmos, if you wish. And thus you create in yourself a resonance to all the stuff you want and you will get it either way. Power MAY be a part of that, though, so the concepts are by no means mutually exclusive.
          Besides, whoever manages to stay in power can only do so because there are others who are willing – or forced – to let him be there. But here is an even more radical thought: Even those who are coerced into something, actually want to experience just that. In the sense of some kind of soul contract, you know. Before they, as souls, became human, they decided they would want to get subjugated, raped, mutilated, owned, whatever. To have that experience. Others, like you, want the other side of the coin. So you find those people who want you to have power over them and you have your fun together. What do you think? Am I interpreting something into ‘power’ you did not mean?

        1. You’d think. They just did things like graphic design of the packaging. Finishing touch stuff.
          Every buyer on the customers side were middle age women. We tried a gay salesman and he was too whimsical for the girls. We also tried the bosses son who was a good kid, but the ladies felt threatened like they were being played. Nope, took a good old fashion family man to market and sell to them.

      2. In advertising “you sell to a man’s sense of having solved the problem and to a woman’s sense of feeling good.

    2. You can bet your ass a man made that commercial. And, as bad as we find this tripe, it will only get worse. Men are more and more becoming “immune” to advertising. Frankly, for most producers of goods, men are worthless. Men buy almost exclusively very low margin items (even though they may be expensive, think cars, for example) where women buy mostly items with INSANE markups on them (think, clothing, handbags, shoes, designer anything, etc). Take that “mindless buying” out of the economy and the world comes to a halt, at least in it’s current form.
      We need women to keep buying garbage to keep the “slop” in the system. Which is why ads endlessly cater to women, trying to sell to a man is too hard. Men want to see value, utility, and a good deal. Women want a shiny trinket.

    3. Commercials play to their audience and if you dissect them you can tell just how corrupted their audience has become.
      .
      I think back to Miller Lite and their “tastes great / less filling” commercial where you had a cat fight. Will we see anything like this in the next decade? I doubt it.

    4. It probably was a man. I was in advertising for most of my professional career and women are usually there not because of their skills but because of the necessity to balance the work force. This is how it goes: New research finds that women want financial independence from a man… how do you show this with a narrative… create a story that shows a credit card giving her freedom from a man (see that)… She has a man to avoid and show her independence from… She is iconoclastic, instead of nylons, she buys ropes (all women want to be original, just like all other women want)… She climbs a mountain (this buys her into the narrative that she as a woman must climb over life’s problems that men do not share)… Did you notice that the mountain is phallic? Believe me this was no accident or just a coincidence, advertisers are very aware of symbolism. Yes, she was really “cock climbing”…

  4. Oh yes, all here know women find reward points and credit scores that allow them to buy more debt so empowering. They’re worse than a class of retarded kids that runs on a token or sticker economy.
    Today’s feminist girlfriend is always just some female, that thinks an unmarried man, should behave like a husband, pay for everything, not enjoy his free time, and be held accountable for all the life altering executive decisions she makes for him.
    Here’s my rock…it ain’t no diamond, but it’s just as hard.

    1. Reminds me of my hair stylist who seemed to flirt with me. She said: In my relationships, I take the lead.
      I laughed a little on the inside and immediately lost all interest. She looked sad, as if she was certain that it should entice me.

      1. “Sounds like you’ve yet to date an actual man. Huh”

        1. That sounds so corny. I would feel embarassed to proudly proclaim that I fit into a stereotype. And it would open up possibilities for her to make me qualify myself and shit test. Fuck that.

        2. You walk away after you say it. I can see how it can look cheesy though since I left off the second part.
          Another favorite:
          “While you’re up, can you get me a beer?”
          “Why, are your legs broke?” (walk away)

        3. Reminds me of: You were working on a book. How is that going? I am always hunting for innocent naive writers like yourself to promote my miniature publishing house.

        4. Best not to put too much thought into actual lines, the idea is to be confident, flippant, charming, humorous and zero-fucks-given.

        5. Yup. That is the problem I have with lines and tactics. But what I usually do with this stuff – although I am not gaming – is to just read it without planning anything, absorbing it into my subconscious without judgment and then let my brain come up with it spontaneously. Kinda like building a library of information and letting my brain and soul manage it automatically.
          But, you have evaded my question.

        6. Oh, right, not intentional, my apologies.
          Slow but steady. It’s winter finally in Ohio, so I’ll have some time to focus until late March though.

      2. Why do you have a girl hair stylist? You would be better off in a barber shop, where you drink a glass of whiskey and talk about man stuff with other men around you. 😉

        1. That would be awesome, yeah. It is simply the closest. They are not even allowed to use razor blades. It is ridiculous. Union mafia bullying disguised as safety concerns.

        2. I am not sure if union is the right word. Trade, perhaps? It is an organization that owns the trade ‘barber’ and to call yourself that, you must have their approval and certificate. Razor blades cost extra. Fucking ridiculous.

        3. Yeah, that is it. I hate the guys. One version of them started sending me post when I becsme self employed. Called IHK. Just made me their member. Never asked for any of it.

        4. I used to go to the same barber shop since I was 1. A small couple of rooms in a converted train shed even with a rotating pole!
          But now the he is easing into retirement and his daughter slowly taking over the shop. And since I live 70 miles away I have to feel weird going into Supercuts.

        5. It’s time to find a new barber shop I guess, that barber shop is going to convert soon in an UNISEX salon, where metrosexual guys and girls meet to talk about the latest Hollywood trends.

        6. I’ll probably have to find one out of the city, perhaps in one of the conservative little towns nearby. Metrosexuals can’t survive in the countryside.

      3. Reminds me of my younger sister who has said the following:
        Life is a dance, you learn as you go.
        Always I lead, never I follow.
        When she hits the Wall in about 10 years, and if she complains about wanting children, I will point out all the quips she has made over the years, and also the fact she has dumped at least 2 perfectly decent guys for less than noble reasons.

  5. Sometimes I think social criticism over things like commercials are petty and ridiculous, but then I look at the other side and often it seems like media nitpicking is all they do
    So I’m glad you’re out there providing opposing fire with your blog, Gene. People like you keep the narrative from being shifted into the absurd
    Keep on trucking

    1. Reminds me of the Firestone? commercial where the woman comes home and runs over the guys video game machine. Funny, I can’t find that on youtube anywhere…..

    2. I thought the same, but it does open your eyes to stuff that you were just ‘used to’. Well, of course they make fun of men and marriage. Wait, what?

    3. As I’m separated from this kind of media as a general rule, it really helps me see how awful it’s become. I thought it was evil 12 years ago, today, Christ, how do men watch this shit and not have their testicles fall off?

  6. Citi’s ad is intended to not only be clever (thus the multiple plays on words), but also b/c they know they won’t get punished for portraying the protagonist as a Proud! Independent! Wymyn!
    The boyfriend or “boyfriend” as it’s clear she’s ‘keeping her options open’ is relegated to the status of being just another accessory. He might as well be an orbiter.
    This becomes a really difficult row to hoe for women. Why so? Because instead of spending their most attractive (and most fertile!) years locking down a suitable man, girls and young women are now taught to reject marriage and family and pursue such interests as rock climbing, or a shitty job in HR or marketing, only to discover, as they arrive in their late 20s, that The Wall is no longer just a theoretical object, but an actual thing.
    Worse, The Wall does not compromise, The Wall does not bargain, The Wall is inevitable. What then? Well, if she tarries further she will reach the point where “THERE ARE NO GOOD MEN LEFT!!” Why? Because of her increasing expectations and her decreasing attractiveness.
    I often liken the disparate curves that men and women are on to escalators; women generally start out higher (unless they do something stupid, like get fat) and men start out lower, however women are on a “down” escalator and men are on an “up” escalator. The point at which the escalators cross is approximately where women arrive at where? “Wall Station. Everybody off.”
    One wonders why young women don’t notice that the folks giving them the ‘sage’ advice of rejecting marriage and family are unhappy, post-Wall cat colonists, but who knows.
    The poet said it best: “Gather ye rosebuds while ye may…..”
    À bientôt,
    Mistral

    1. It’s why you see so many of these women in their late 30s to early 40s who are very miserable (married or not). They’ve waited all of this time to “have it all” and once they get to that point, the attention (from men) comes to a halt and they are left spending on their credit cards because they are all miserable.
      All of the things that feminism had promised them….they find out at that later age, that’s it’s all a sham. No one can have it all, you have to make choices at certain ages to have kids, have a full career (one or the other, can’t do both). Many women think they are smart by waiting but they are waiting themselves right out of the “pool to have kids”.
      Who wants to have kids with a 40 year old when there are 22 year olds, hotter and younger ready to have kids? They’ve been sold this fantasy bullshit by the FI and they are now waking up (in the end) to find out that they’ve been had.
      The corporations don’t give a shit about them..it’s all about spend, spend, spend…they just tap into the message.

      1. “Who wants to have kids with a 40 year old when there are 22 year olds, hotter and younger ready to have kids?”
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        The problem is the 22 year olds won’t want to have kids. They’re brainwashed by the feminist lies and the problem perpetuates to the younger generation.
        As the women age and hit the wall, they get bitter at both men and younger women. Men don’t want the old women and older women can’t compete with the younger ones.

        1. That was more to my point of these older women trying to compete with the younger ones. You do have some younger ones that have kids (planned or not) but they want kids. It’s the ones who feels so “empowered” that they actually think they can put everything on hold (like plenty of men are going to still want her at 40)…as she has so many options.
          I’ve seen groups of miserable 40 year olds drinking together (wine groups)…these women are the worst. You can see that they made the mistake of buying into the message and it’s too late to turn back. They still can’t “find a good man” but don’t realize men aren’t looking for them any longer. It’s pretty sad, at times, to see these groups.

        2. Sad indeed to see these groups. They are miserable, yet they can’t concede that they’ve made a terrible mistake and blame men for their misery.

        3. “blame men for their misery.”
          Of course but you know what? Men are waiting for these hoes on the other side of the Wall with a sledge hammer. Fuck them!

        4. My pity ran out along time ago for these hags. Ask them what went wrong and they will blame men for “not sinking their standards, maintainng false social constructs, etc..” they shirk responsibility for their own demise.
          Whats worse is the daggers they throw at women their age walking around with their husband and kids. The envy, or sometimes it appears like hate, just oozes out of them.

        5. I agree. Many of these older women are jealous of these women for being happy. They’ve entered into marriage and have kids (and they are very happy in life). These women regret having followed the FI and found at in the end that they are alone, miserable with their cats (or dogs). No husband (or man)..because they don’t “need one” and no kids. The FI lied to them and failed them….and they are miserable because of it.

        6. These older girls are actually tragic, it is a sad sight, but they will trap many a man into an infertile marriage. To be fair, its not always their fault. They realise too late and often they are the victim as well. Pick Up Artistry may be a little morally ambiguous but playing someone of the opposite sex (ie friend zoning a beta or not marrying a girl) for years is where the real wickedness lies.

        7. Ask them what went wrong and they will blame men for “not sinking their standards, maintainng false social constructs, etc..”
          That’s certainly the subtext.

        8. “…To be fair, its not always their fault. They realise too late and often they are the victim as well.”
          To Hell with painting them as ‘victims’ — they had their choice, they chose poorly, and now they are living their lives as they said they wanted: without any husband or children.
          NO ONE held a gun to their head and made them choose the FI. They were so happy to follow the FI, they wouldn’t listen to any other viewpoint (in fact, they reacted to any warning about their choices with screams of anger, hateful spite, cursing and even threats — I know, I saw it).
          They said that “marriage was slavery” and that they “didn’t need a man” — now they don’t have any marriage or husband, just like they wanted. They wanted the FI more than anything, and now they are paying the price.
          Foolish people have to be held responsible for making foolish choices.
          (I know, feminists and responsibility go together like oil and water.)

        9. I have the feeling that those women were ugly from the get go and thought that careers would raise their SMV!

        10. 22 year-old women don’t want to have kids because men don’t ask them in marriage.
          How many men are ready to settle down nowadays? Almost zero. Everyone here, as well as on the Roosh forum speaks about going abroad and banging women, partying and nothing else. I have yet to see an article that encourages men to pick up high-quality women, invest their resources in them, and not ‘hot girls’, then get married and form stable families.
          Yes, I get it that today’s world has changed the male-female dynamic a lot and it all appears to be screwed up, as most women are unworthy of marriage. But it’s not like men are dying to have kids with a 22 year-old, put a ring on her finger and settle. Come on.

        11. Women and elite men effectively set expectations regarding the relationship/sex game and men essentially react to this. This is as close as women get to having any kind of agency, even though it is collective and largely opaque to the plugged-in.

        12. Hi, you’re a woman so you shouldn’t really be posting here.
          But I, for one, am having a child with a girl in her early 20s. Yes, I found a girl that age who wants to have kids and submits to my authority as well.
          I’m 51. When I was ready to settle down and have kids I certainly didn’t go looking for someone my age (infertile anyway) or even someone in their early 30s. I went for the youngest, most fertile girl I could find.
          A lesson for you and your aging compatriots.

        13. Go and study the Domestic Violence laws (and how they are applied), the divorce laws, the record of the Family Court system and it’s hostility towards anyone who was born with XY chromosomes, the suicide rate among divorced men, the Star Chamber tribunals on this nation’s college campuses, the false accusations of ‘rape’ and ‘sexual harassment’, and the advent of MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) — for starters.
          Then it might start to dawn on you why more and more men are refusing to marry — at ANY age.

        14. My fiancee is 19. I’m in my lower 30’s.
          And both of us want kids.
          I want so many red-headed kids that I create rip in the fabric of space-time, but that part is up to God.

        15. I just turned 49. My girlfriend is coming up on her 27th birthday. I am hoping this all works out but if not, then I have my rules in line:
          .
          *Any women over 33 are merely sport fucking material
          *No single mothers. . .EVER!
          *Maintain the unicorn hunt – 20 something, notch count <4, conservative or apolitical views, BMI <22, NAWALT example, etc etc.
          *Frequent trips to Asia to bang LBFMs.

        16. The thing is, they can pump put three kids from age 22 to 25, raise them until they are school age, and then pursue a career starting at 30. Of course, they will be at a disadvantage compared to men of the same age but that is the whole fallacy of feminism. Alternatively, feminism tells them to not make babies and make money instead. Fucking awful.

        17. If you are 51 years old, you’ll be lucky to be alive at your child’s graduation. You should have had children earlier, speaking of aging. Why does a fertile woman in her early 20’s want to have children with a man 30 years her senior? In five years you will start experiencing erectile dysfunction, incontinence, do you really think a young woman will tolerate that.
          Perhaps you are a good meal ticket for a young flusie, or she’s not perfectly balanced. Otherwise I can’t explain this.

        18. If men don’t want to marry and form families, and single motherhood is constantly bashed, the red pill manosphere should stop telling women to marry and have kids. Who are they supposed to marry, other women?

        19. What do you have to offer to a girl reuniting the traits you described? Perhaps that’s why you’re spending your dough on plane tickets to Asian countries where women would bang anything with a pulse for a sandwich.

        20. I actually have a life and a job here in China. I am not a sex tourist. If and when I return to Canada empty handed, then rules 1 to 3 will apply. I am a decent looking chap with a brain in my head so finding women has never been a problem. China is not Thailand nor the Philippines. You have to have something going, other than a wallet, to get a girl here.
          .
          But let’s say that things don’t work out. Perhaps I will flounder about in Canada trying to find a unicorn. Fat chance. The average divorce runs about $50k. For that price I could fuck dozens of LBFMs.

        21. You’d be surprised how easily cats can be manipulated. Treats and comfort and they’ll do whatever you want.

        22. “Who are they supposed to marry, other women?”
          Sure, why not? Isn’t gay marriage what they fought for and demonized men for?

        23. that’s right. Not many young 20 somethings want to start a family except for many those who are high school drop outs or got a oops pregnancy with a guy they wanted to lock in.
          The thing is there are lots of 40 yr old women having kids these days, and I am sure the stories of the older celebrity moms and IVF success stories inspire other women.I know numerous women around that age having their token child, and its usually with a nice guy provider type they have settled for. She might not end up with the guy she really wanted but she had fun living the sex and the city life up till when the wrinkles and belly started to show.
          Those 35-45 average shmoe guys are not going bag a cute trim 22-26 yr to marry. There are not enough to meet demand, so they settle also. Where I live women 35-39 are now knocking out more babies than the 20-25 demographic.

        24. Guys their age no, but guys in their early 30s up, yes. Of course she might well be resentful that he spent the last decade having fun, dating & traveling and she doesn’t get to live that. An older guy might have to marry down socio economically because a young woman fresh out of university generally wont be thinking about babies.

        25. “I have yet to see an article that encourages men to pick up high-quality women” That’s because this is a instrument of reality. So you won’t see any stories about a unicorn expedition either.

        26. Women doesn’t want old men, even younger women doesn’t want old geezers unless that old geezer is willing to pay out all of his wealth to temporarily attract a young woman, as Soon as your wealth is gone that women will leave you. But then men like that type will bitch and moan that women are gold diggers when it is themselves who chooses to use gold as bait.

        27. I have seen more of those 40-60 years old men in bar and in groups always moaning and bitching about why women doesn’t give them any time of the day. As supposedly somehow it is always women’s fault for not picking their pig ass as partner. But for some reason why doesn’t those old dudes marry each other instead of seeking a woman?

        28. More like it’s men whose always blaming women for their misery. Just look at those comments and you can see them all trying to blame on women. You guys just need to get together and marry each other. Forget the women.

        29. Yup you got it, beta guys can only get dumber girls. So try Africa next time.

        30. Your fucking sicko, marrying someone that could be your granddaughter, I hope she wipe your asset clean, it’s worth only if your bling is good.

        31. At first I thought you must be a woman based on your comment. Then I saw your profile pic, and the only explanation I could fathom is: Betaboywacksalot

      2. You can’t buy back your lost youth ladies… is something that needs to be a PSA. The problem is the immaturity of 22 year olds, what 22 year old American girl is mature enough that your kid can respect their rules while you’re off at work? I can’t think of any. But then the problem is the teeny window of time when you are respectable but not dried up. A lot of women fuck up and miss the window. I’d say the window is 26-32? Anytime afterwards and you’re starting to sag and pushing it.

      3. Seems to me you are The one whose seen sad that women rather pick no marriage than marring beta or misogyny males. Good for them.

      1. Then she can put all that climbing gear to good use trying to climb over it. Just don’t tell her that every year post-impact tacks on another 1000 feet to the Wall.

      1. Thx. Ideally I will be around more–I spent the summer on the west coast doing my job and someone else’s who was on leave.

    2. Her period will put paid to her rock-climbing ambitions.
      As for the wall. I have seen the effects on women and it is quite sad. I went to see my friend who has recently had a child with his wife (just in time for her) but her sisters are the kind of post-wall women I pity. Greying professional women with now no hope of a family. And in my office I have post-wall women flirting with me.
      Unfortunately my answer remains the same. “Is she of childbearing age? No? Then she is useless.”

      1. I have had well-meaning acquaintances/co-workers try to set me up with post-Wall types. I don’t necessarily advertise that I’m already busy stuffing young muffins, so while my friends already know better, sometimes other people think they’re ‘helping’ me.
        So yeah, I basically give the same reply, with a subtext of “Y’know, I’m not running an ‘outreach’ program for angry, bitter women, reformed sluts or single moms. Sorry. And now I’m going to go back to shagging young tail and doing whatever I want in life.”

        1. My colleagues are actually surprised when I tell them I only date women in their twenties. “Why so young? Is she mature enough?” etc.
          The fact is, women in their twenties prefer men my age. And women my age despise me. Why? Because they resent the fact that I am at my peak and they are well past theirs.

        2. A couple of months ago, I was out with two married couples where I’m friends with the husbands from university and I’ve known one of the wives (who is totally “red pill”) for years. With the second guy, I was meeting his (2nd) wife for the first time. She’s a typical SJW pain in the ass, and tried to shame me for dating young, attractive, fertile women, etc., etc. (The RPW’s husband was lobbing softballs for me to hammer, b/c he knew I’d answer straight and it would piss her off.)
          At some point she said, “I think people aren’t interesting until they’re 28” to which I responded, “I think people get really, REALLY UN-interesting by 28. Well, women, anyway.”
          Cue hamster-nukage in 5….4….3….2….

        3. There’s nothing more attractive to a woman than a man who speaks his mind. Your friend is lucky his wife is too old for you!

        4. I’m 49: how old are you?
          .
          Some wag posted something like this:
          .
          Old Guy: I think we should go out tomorrow night.
          Young Girl: I don’t know; I have never dated anyone over the age of 24.
          Old Guy: Me neither!

        5. Your colleague must be really surprised that you only date your left hand. After out you only go out to dinner with your right hand.

      2. “…her sisters are the kind of post-wall women I pity. Greying professional women with now no hope of a family.”
        Save your pity for someone who truly deserves it. Your sisters-in-law have just what they wanted — careers, and nothing else; it was their choice. Just remember that the average good-looking Western woman — feminist or not — receives at least one marriage proposal before she is thirty. Any woman who is over thirty and unmarried is that way for at least one good reason, if not a multitude of them.
        But be very wary of them pouring verbal poison in your wife’s ears to split you two up, out of nothing more than jealousy and spite. There’s nothing that feminist crones hate more than a happy couple with children.

        1. It is not a compliment to be “pitied”. Remember Mr T “I pity the fool”. Otherwise, I agree.

      3. Given my age – 49 – I can’t expect to be canoodling with many 18 -22 year olds but, as I stated elsewhere, any woman over 33 is merely sport fucking material. I have met and sometimes banged late-30’s women with rocking bodies and decent personalities. I just can’t picture a forever-style relationship with them.
        .
        Apparently, numbers matter. My thing is online dating. Up to the age of 39, I had no problem hooking up with 20-somethings. At 40 -BOOM – the silence was deafening. I expect it ever worse once I hit 50.

        1. Its not the number its your appearance. Not trying to offend but people think I’m in my twenties. I have superior health, fitness, strength and gravitas compared to your average mid-twenties man. The point is, women are attracted to the way that you look. When they ask how old you are (after you’ve banged them a few times) they no longer care about the answer.
          Hell I’ve had girls not give a shit even before I bang them. One girl (26) frowned, shrugged and basically said “fuck it, he’s James Bond”.
          Point is man, work on your exterior. What your body lacks make up with clothes and raw attitude. Some guys make it up with money. You may not have that option. Also, just keep asking out young chicks. Sooner or later you’ll find one who likes older guys.

        2. I agree that you can’t let your temple go to ruin if you want fresh meat to worship you at the altar. Even with my body in its present state of disrepair, I still get mistaken for a 30-something. I have a 26 year old girlfriend and a vacation booked with her to go to Thailand. With exercise and such I will have better body to take there. However, what got me there was attitude, and frankly a bit of luck.

        3. Do you embellish your age online? I’m three years younger on Tinder than my actual age and two years younger on Match.

        4. Generally, no. I am what I am. However, I recently put a bait profile online that lists my age as being a full decade younger.

        5. This is solid advice, gentlemen. My flabby ass can pass for a decade younger; I am getting back into a workout regime so that at first blush I seem 29. In terms of attitude, I am a high school teacher and the female students get uncomfortably friendly with me. Youthful mind and youthful body.

        6. Dude, you shouldn’t be WhatsApp friends with your students. That’s asking for trouble!

        7. Yes, you are right. 50 is the firewall of internet dating, Always stay 49. On POF you can’t even contact a woman in her 20s if you are in your 50s (institutional white-nighting). And the women my age on the sites are on there for a reason and it’s not because of their search for a better man than they can find in reality… it’s because they think that they still deserve a better man than they deserve. I have met so many looser women on dating sites that I have given up and only have a presence on them to infuriate the entitlement bitches with a snarky but clever profile…

      4. I bet any women will ask the same question to men like you, “Is he a millionaire? No? Then his useless.”

    3. In the past, mothers and fathers knew all this and took great pains to marry off their daughters before they became old maids and undesirable. Today, the government has stepped in and thwarted this process.
      I do recall that in the old books the “spinster” was generally a miserable and bitter childless woman.

      1. I wonder why those parents didn’t just marry off their sons instead since daughter nowadays doesn’t want to be marry off. I bet their brothers are very willing to be marry off to another family.

  7. Short of it:
    Feminism sells women on lies, on what they should “really” want, on things they aren’t really capable of doing/handling, and impressionable females lap it up.
    Smart companies see opportunity to cater to that market and help perpetuate the manipulation gaining in the process a sort of immunity to SJW ranting.
    Some lesser men enable the delusion so that the “empowered” women never face reality and become essentially, their eunuchs.
    Post-wall women blame men and continue the feminist hysteria helping to perpetuate and renew the cycle. Everybody mistrusts and despises each other more, becoming easier prey to marketing and other interests instead of being able to present a unified familial front. This tension then fuels more sales and dependencies on things other than normal heterosexual relationships.

    1. It’s funny with this ad I wonder, if she’s supposed to be such a strong independent woman, why does she think the rock climbing is more important?…
      She’s holding out for a more impressive ring. You’re supposed to hold out until you find “the love of your life” who has money and buys you at least a 2 carat ring. Any less and your fiance will be seen as a disappointment. It sucks. But that’s real. Rules for women set up by feminism are so vapid and contradictory. And honestly women don’t know how much things really cost. A smart man would just find a vintage ring thats at least 2 carats but costs under $3000 because it’s vintage. The bitch and her vapid friends wouldn’t know the difference and then you stockpile the money the ring would normally cost away in a separate account.

      1. You also could pull this with any gifts she demands, push present, anniversary gift. Get her some vintage diamonds withdraw what it would normally cost, and then stockpile the money you’re saving away for yourself. She’ll never notice and you have a little secret stash in cash to avoid divorce rape. Trust no bitch.

  8. A too big to fail bank is advertising to a progressive feminist demographic?!? Say it ain’t so Joe.
    Also, they are rock climbing shoes, no cleats on them, just tacky ass rubber.

    1. Fantasy doesn’t have to conform to reality. Heh.

  9. I remember this ad, its also very obvious that the featured female “climber” is not at all braving that kind of a climb. At least to me, its obvious that’s all blue screen in the back. I think its very likely that this ad is the product of a female(s) in the marketing department that were also very likely hired for diversity reasons. And that’s how this whole thing goes down. diversity mandates say hire women, women gravitate towards marketing because its easiest for them and when they fail to be original resort to feminism because if there are any issues, such as, an ineffective ad campaign they’ll just fall back on feminism. Well well Sally, we need to talk about this ad here… Its about empowering women! and yada yada yada.

    1. Bluescreen? Good observation, it could be. The only scenes where you recognize her are cut off. Any other indicators?
      Btw, blue screen is old school. Green screen is the thing today.

  10. I also recall another grating ad from Fidelity Investments. It was even more obnoxious than this. It followed the life of a independent women complete with her being a protesting hippie to a CFO…and every fantasy in between even a breast cancer survivor. The hippie part, for me, is really annoying. I hate hippies.

  11. “…Of course someday she will extract commitment from a man who will pay it off. …”
    With the advent of and the increasing popularity and public exposure of MGTOW, the certainty of the “Strong”, “Independent” Woman being able rely on commitment from a formerly-despised beta orbiter to pay her debts (and to frivorce for “cash and prizes” in the future) is fading. Granted, that now there are such fools to be had is almost a reliable certainty, but — even the Indians and the White Man thought that there were so many buffalo* that there could be no end to them.
    The more arrogant, entitled, and hypergamic women become, the more that a man who actually offers commitment will be as rare as a White Buffalo.
    * The passenger pigeon is another species that formerly numbered in the millions, possibly billions; they are now, of course, extinct.

  12. “What she doesn’t realize is her ability to extract future commitment offers from men has nothing to do with her passion for rock climbing and everything to do with her being slender, pleasant looking, and youthful.”
    Literally millions of girls today are living this lie, thinking that the guy hitting on her cares about her interest in craft beer, her wittiness, her sarcasm, her resume, her world travels, her rock climbing hobby, her job, her clothes, her jewelry. All we care about is a girl’s kindness, femininity and willingness to please. The millennial generation is going to be in for quite a rude awakening in the next few years…

    1. Some girls really are like that, it seems. Maybe some dominant DNA strand. Knew a handful. Got into fights with train controlleurs and guys hitting on them. Embarassingly, I was madly in love with one of them.

      1. of course you were, tom.
        jeez, you are one sadsack arent you tom?
        seems like every one of your posts includeds some depressing stuff.
        i have honestly wondered if you were just trolling with all that sad stuff, but who would do that???
        you need to find some light.

      2. No sane man would wish to mix DNA with a woman that lacked some courage, intelligence, character. My 5’3″ 165cm tall mother wanted to be a fitter (mechanic) she really was interested and had the visual spatial skills to do so. She was talked out of it and when she had to work spent a life time working under men that were clearly intellectual inferiors and really were lacking (Id met some of these). There is no way she is a feminist or any sorts, very family oriented but women do have a point.
        Of course that is no longer the situation. Now feminism springs from a wellspring of fanciful invented history such as “MAD men” and ‘suffragette”

        1. You need to be able to asses the intelligence and gumption of the mother of your children in some way. Clearly men value beauty above all else as it represents fertility however intelligence does matter as your child will have 50% of her DNA and women need some way of showing that of to a prospective parnter as well. Demonstrating a talent or accomplishment is good for that.
          Some really do want to throw a javelin, climb a mountain, water ski, scuba dive etc or become an engineer. The problem arises when these desires overtake the reality that by 30 most women are on the downhill in terms of fertility and will be infertile by 40.
          All of these things can be accomplished when married rather than when ‘independent’.

        2. “…The problem arises when these desires overtake the reality that by 30 most women are on the downhill in terms of fertility and will be infertile by 40.”
          The problem with these women really arises when you try to tell them about the limits of their fertility — they just DO NOT want to hear it. It upsets the Feminist Imperative and really puts a wet blanket on their feminist “pie in the sky” dreams and fantasies.

        3. I hear you. Actually, I am finding less beautiful women more attractive. But lets be honest, 9s and 10s are really just 7s with a pound of make-up (or worse). I now evaluate women by a reasonable looking face, sparse make-up, narrow waist but wide childbearing hips. And of course, the personality has to be trustworthy.

        4. They can do all that after raising the kids. Accomplishments are good, but if it becomes time-consuming, it signals lack of maternal instinct and femininity to any aware men.

      3. No DNA biz, just spoiled daddy’s girls with no concept of consequences/ parents were weak. That was the main characteristic of mid 2000s London girls.

        1. My first instinct here is to say: You are wrong. But maybe. Who knows.
          I am not talking about those loud broads, you know. The ones I knew … one had witnessed her best friend being raped by daddy and some men. She was not a friend of mine. In fact, she was a disgusting fat pig. But yeah, you see how trauma can shape you into a monster. And that has nothing to do with spoiled.
          A female commenter on my blog also seemed rather confident. Also has been through a lot of pain. Also met such a girl in Peru.
          I think girls can become battle-hardened, too. Only that it does not suit them too much.
          Then again, yeah, who says that that strength is, in the end, not just a compulsive pretense.
          You say they are spoiled kids. And you know, my sense of reality is shifting so much these days that I would not be surprised to let myself see those pedestalized ‘confident’ women from an angle of weakness.
          I just know that one of them wanted to prove to herself her strength and kinda threw it all away, went into poverty, worked herself up from there. Hm. But yeah, it does not seem quite natural… so while it may not be spoiled, it may defnitely be damaged in some way.

    1. Wow, that is so painful to watch. Makes me want to stare her down and indifferently say: What, do you think staring at me motherly will make me do this bullshit?

    2. Geez, that commercial infuriated me. It’s one thing for a wife to try to convince her husband to agree on buying a house. It’s a completely different thing for her to be such an aggressive ass about it constantly going “What? What?” and pulling the realtor in for backup. Did this commercial actually air?! Have we been reduced to this?

      1. It’s so bad that the ad is a sort of running joke for marketing people, apparently. So the fact that it’s not just red pillers that are appalled means we haven’t quite been reduced to that. But the fact that Century 21 thought the ad would help their brand tells us a lot about where we are.

  13. Funny. My first instinct was to say: Come on, man. It is just a stupid moronic spot. They all are. It is what they are supposed to be. Corny, meaningless, whatever. Shrug it off.
    But you bring up good points. I see a lot of girls online who like to climb rocks and go to mountains. But my persomnal experience is that this is usually less a pursuit of adventure than boring routine cardio with ‘wonderful fresh mountain air’. A woman taking the lead instead of begging to go slower? Well, maybe that handful of alpinistic Ronda Rouseys with daddy issues.
    I also thought: Come on, forget the mention of the diamond. But yeah, why exactly did they put that reference in there? What does it have to do with anything. Alrighty, clever manipulation with purpose. Fuck.
    Nice article.

  14. I wonder if Citi is doing men a favor here in the West?
    Just thinking out loud.

  15. Modern commercials are so cringeworthy to watch, I just simply skip them (commercials, ads) show up on youtube. Forget about TV, commercials are everywhere… and they display the same ridiculous shit: women dominating men and showing how smart women are and how dumb men are and have to be led by women. Typical subliminal programming bullshit. NO wonder modern males are easily misled; they are constantly fed bullshit from the media even via internet. Good thing we have websites like these.
    Companies and banks are like sociopathic and don’t give a fuck; as long as profit is for them… they will have to please their masters and please the masses to put more bullshit like this to make feminists, white knights and idiots proud that women can DO IT… the typical (you go gurll!!!) BS.

    1. “Modern commercials are so cringeworthy to watch, I just simply skip them (commercials, ads) show up on youtube.”
      Use the Firefox web browser (free) with “Adblock Plus” (free add-on) and you won’t even know those ads exist.

      1. Actually, It probably would be better to use a independent browser like Firefox (Comodo Ice Dragon, Pale Moon) that doesn’t directly support the SJW- tendencies of Firefox and is an improvement over the original (I switched after they knocked off Brendan Eich).

      1. Supposedly it was because the ads featured dangerous driving, but the real reason was probably the redpill undertones.
        Makes me nostalgic for the days I considered “Super Villain” a valid career path.

        1. Shut down? Aw.
          I’ve been tempted to start a blog called “The Modern Villainy”, describing socio-economic events from a villainous standpoint and using arithmestory to predict future events. But Arithmestory is still in its infancy stages (only predicting times, not the specific events themselves) and I’m still gathering art deco inspiration for the website.

        2. Sounds like what they did. They didn’t place too much emphasis on future events except for investing, but they did cover a few current events and provide their villainous take on it as well as simply talking about their views on self-improvement, lifestyle, etc. When you get your site going, let me know. Would like to read what you got.

        3. My predictions for future events are similar to Issac Asimov’s “Psychohistory”, but so far it has proven to be like Project Stargate: something is there, but too vague to be of actual use. At least so far, right now I’m waiting to see if some short-range predictions come true (refugees and redpill movments).

        4. So far I’ve found a simple ratio, that combined with an analysis of events provides an answer as vague as the numbers I feed it. I haven’t fully researched the social climate before WWII and before the fall of the USSR, so my retrospective predictions were off by a few years. For a human lifespan that seems quite erroneous, but from a historical perspective I think it quite accurate.
          I’m waiting to see if my predictions for the “Syrian” refugees comes true, then expand on it from there. If it is true, then there’s a big event coming up around 2028, and other major LGBTQ event around 2019. Partially I’m hoping its not, because I find life like a magic show: when you know how the tricks work its not as fun.

        5. Any idea what the 2019 event will consist of or just a estimate that SOMETHING will happen?
          Also, if you find life like a magic show and don’t want to ruin it by figuring out the cultural trends, it seems like you need to stop with your analysis, heh. Ignorance is bliss, no?

        6. The magician needs to know how the tricks work, attending other shows for ideas and inspiration. It is foreboding but strangely satisfying to reduce humanity to mere numbers. If I am wrong nothing bad will happen, but if I am right I will at least have satisfaction of being right.
          The 2019 event will be similar to the rise of the LGBTQ and the Bruce Jenner controversy. Probably another mass media attempt to normalize some obscure sexuality. If my Syrian prediction is correct we will see European liberals going bonkers to save the refugees from the winter cold in late January 2016. The Syrian prediction is what will prove my theory, so until then I wait.

        7. I’m not nearly as adept in all this as you are, but I do agree that we got some big events on the horizon and those that aren’t prepared are going to be lucky if they wind JUST up being financially screwed (but still alive). I have a sick feeling things are going to get real ugly in our lifetime.

        8. To become a magician and run a magic show, you need to know how tricks work.
          So from my estimates, the 2019 event will be another attempt at normalizing a controversial sexuality. The Syrian refugees is more useful though. Seems there will be a movement to save the refugees from freezing to death in late January 2016.
          Like a junkie, I cannot turn away from such a challenge.

        9. Damn disquis, I can never tell if a comment has posted or not.
          Problem with global warming is that even if we stopped NOW, we’d be feeling effects for another 40 or so years. It takes a while to heat up all the air and water on the Earth.

  16. They’re selling fantasy. Reality is if she doesn’t get married, she’s handcuffed to her unfulfilling cubicle job for another 10 years. But you already knew that.

  17. “What she doesn’t realize is her ability to extract future commitment
    offers from men has nothing to do with her passion for rock climbing and
    everything to do with her being slender, pleasant looking, and
    youthful. Those attributes do not last, and as they diminish, so does
    the status of the men willing to give her the time of day.”
    Actually, that’s pure theory. In today’s world, it’s relatively usual to see young men chasing post-wall pussy. Women want to ride the carousel well after their prime because THEY CAN.
    As sad as it may seem, that’s the reality on the ground.

    1. young men go to older women because they are easy pussy, they do not see themselves tied to them until death do them part

      1. Whatever. As long as a woman can get men interested in, she won’t have any incentive to change

        1. Don’t kid yourself. Women want a man to asked for a commitment. post wall. Getting fucked as easy pussy to such women needs to be compared to a man jacking off between lays.

        2. “Don’t kid yourself. Women want a man to asked for a commitment. post wall.”
          I tnink RoK are missing one crucial point: due to a lack of war and a low level of alcoholism, smoking and emigration in developped countries, we have a surplus of men who are mostly desperate for sex. As a result, even a “post-wall” women will have no problem to find a decent man.
          Blaming women makes no sense since they have no agency. They have just adapted to the situation.

        3. Smart phone dating apps have created social opportunities for post wall women. The 45 y/o female can state her age as 35, and use pics from 25. She can gets first dates. But when she meets men in real life for that first date, reality sets in. If the male wants to pursue her at all, its usually just for practice while he keeps his options open. I agree this gives post wall women a sense of validation, but its fleeting. Its still very late in the game for her and the clock is ticking, especially the single moms.

        4. I think you should unplug from the internet and observe people in the real world. You will more and more post-wall women in a relationship or even married with men 5-10 younger than them.

        5. If we’re talking personal observations, I’ve only seen that up close once where a guy partied hard his freshman year in college and flunked out, and married some single mom for a meal ticket.
          Post wall women really bring nothing to the relationship. By the time a woman’s fertility is diminishing, a man’s career track is ascending, so he has no need for her at that point in most cases. Post wall women only offer short term opportunity, even for beta males.

        6. Like you said desperate for sex. You have dressed it up nice with fresh make up and lipstick. Those old used up women are just booty calls. With out the desire for children and family no women is marriageable. The 40 year old is by laws of physics not for marriage. No matter what she has done or has credentials to she is only worthy of booty calls. There is nothing there for a productive family man.

        7. “The 40 year old is by laws of physics not for marriage.”
          That’s not what is happening in the real world. Plenty of post-wall women find spouses. Wether these men are desperate or not is irrelevant.

  18. I know both of the actors personally. Both of them are professionals, and that formation was picked because it looks dramatic despite being easy to climb(I’ve done it). The man, Alex Honnold(google him), is one of the greatest climbers ever to have lived. He is known for particularly dangerous climbing at a high difficulty. He is also famous for climbing truly expert routes without a rope. It is very ironic to portray him as the stay-behind boyfriend given his badassery. That being said, the actress Katie Brown is also unbelievably strong – she could do that climb barefoot and blindfolded.

    1. Well the man Alex Honnold should not have done the commercial, he appeared emasculated. His role in the commercial was a step backwards in the men’s movement. Not to mention the commercial sends the wrong message to women about the role of men, the importance of marriage and not whoring around.

      1. Would you do it for $100k? He did. If he didn’t, there were ten other professional climbers lined up. For both genders.
        In the climbing community his respect far outweighs any jokes made about this.

    2. Didn’t they use helicopter to position the climbers? Obviously they were using helicopter to shoot the camera. The climbers could have been dropped off close to the top, and probably were to save time, because time is money, and this is business.

      1. It wouldn’t matter. The helicopter is quick, but those climbers could ascend that route so quickly and easily that it is a wash.
        They actually made it substantially more dangerous by belaying in more precarious and more visually-appealing positions.

  19. “..they will end up with massive credit card debt and far less appealing marriage options than they have in their youth.”
    This is exactly the situation of a former acquiantance of mine. I met her 15 years ago when she was moving up the career path and had a string of admirers. Last I heard she is living in a house alone (mortgage) after breaking off her engagement some years ago, indebted as far as her credit will take her and was last heard banging married men as the single men stopped chasing. The wall is not kind.

      1. Dunno but by the looks of the shrub in front of the rock she couldn’t be more than a metre or two above the ground.

  20. I like this format of having an analytical aproach to what t.v is throwing out there as far as subliminal messages of blue pill wage slave propaganda. keep em coming. we need more critcal thinking of the Talmudvision and pop culture.

  21. Another reason why usury/interest is a CRIME. It is a crime that harms a society more than almost any other crime.
    Even the towelheads get this one right. Except for their shieks who are in bed with our corporate-fascist oligarch western sheiks.
    But regular everyday towelheads know that usuryinterest is a crime. Not brainwashed everyday western jerks, though. They think it’s great to be financial slaves. Cool!

  22. Citi was also a major player in the 2008 financial collapse. I would never do business with those assholes.

  23. The point is valid although the guy in the video is Alex Honnold, quite possibly the best climber living today. I don’t think he’d care if the woman in the video wants to marry him or not, he can take his pick and does I am sure.

  24. I hate the word empower. It means someone had to give you power, meaning you were too feeble for the real thing, which is power.
    So em-power is basically a pointless, ornamented version of power.

  25. Marriage is dead anyway and has been a shit deal (never more so than nowadays) for men anyway. Who cares if Western landwhale sluts are discouraged by Corporate America from committing to “long-term” relationships. The good part is that those with a good business plan can extract more and more resources from these wonderful ladies by marketing more worthless consumer product drivel to them for their beta orbiter schlubs to buy them.

  26. I think there is another way to look at this. The credit card company is there to make money and the customers who are most profitable to them are the ones who make bad financial decisions, purchase what they can’t afford, carry a balance and make substantial interest payments. They have no interest in those of us who pay off their cards every month. With this ad they are essentially acknowledging that this demographic has poor decision making skills so let’s pander to them and exploit them for a profit. Perhaps it was created by a man.

    1. Thats a very keen observation there.
      They concentrate on targeting a gender that lives more in the moment and is geared to buy things frivolously to compete with other clowns on material possession ownership. Brilliant.

  27. “The rock structure in the commercial is undeniably phallic”
    — True, but I also saw it as a pedestal. Her climb was a form of self-pedestalization (like selfies!)

  28. IMHO most women at some point in their lives like most men give in to propaganda and desire to conquer life or experience different people. I do so who am I to judge. I just can’t stand dishonesty.
    It happens more in religious people since it is an “act against god” which is bs because we wouldn’t be designed like this if that’s the case. It then associates bad with good psychologically feeding addictive personalities and creating a gateway to sociopathic tendencies. In men and women it attaches to greed which is just more stimulation i.e. money, sex, drugs. Plus all the Disney propaganda and daytime television shows that make that a behavioral normal.
    I prefer a woman that gets her slut faze out early and has class about. Meaning when you can both be honest sometimes you can find what you’re looking for.Everyone gets fooled if they are looking to hear certain words though. As long as she doesn’t get weird and blow her rape whistle in the morning I’m cool. Womens’ mentality you can adapt to, but not if they completely ruin the dating game by using rape hysteria and associating everything with it. It’s a boner killer even to ladies who don’t deserve it. One could say it downplays the seriousness of real rape as well. If every time there’s a rape story there’s only a 30% chance it’s legit nobody will pay any attention in 5 years.
    When it comes to changing who writes societal norms you only have to go as far as who owns the media and decides finally what goes to air. How do you control any company? Money . . . Banks . . . Citi group? Who owns cities group? The same people who own the media? The same people that say they’re democratic, but delete comments on their boards to change the narrative to support Hilary and talk about donald. Sounds like you should vote for the someone that isn’t the establishment or part of it that they don’t want. Have to get rid of them in some manner of speaking if you’re going to change anything.

  29. I don’t know if this qualifies as agitprop. If anything, classic capitalistic nonsense.
    For real agitprop, check out this classic Allstate commercial. You know, the one with the bitchy I got a check in the mail ergo women are better drivers than men attitude.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQR8rj2BO-8
    In conclusion, if they want to be free, empowered women, so be it. I will be free and empowered myself to not drink from the gallon of milk if the milk goes stale. I will just look for a cow.

  30. FUCK OFF BITCH. WHO DO U THINK GIVES A SHIT ABOUT UR C U M LICKING JOB? ANY WHORE CAN MAKE MORE THAN THAT WITH HER OWN GLORYHOLE. GET OFF THE WEB!!!!!!!

  31. What I find even funnier about this advertisement is the ‘boyfriend’ in the rock-climbing scene is Alex Honnold, who is considered by many as the world number one free-solo climber, the man is a freak of nature.. he’s scaled Yosemite’s north face multiple times without ropes among other big wall climbs.

  32. While ROK amounts to perhaps 1% of 1% of men, we have to start somewhere. Neomasculinity includes “game” as one of its tenants, but I say fuck that. Reserve your game for someone important. Stop fucking bitches, stop fucking sluts, stop fucking whores, stop fucking self-entitled cunts who have bought into the feminist line.
    .
    For god’s sake DON’T BE THAT GUY! Drop the bitch like a hot potato. Being incel is rather pathetic, but being volcel is rather empowering. Only put your dick in something that matters. Never deal with a woman who is less interesting than your left hand. If you would not fuck her without a condom, then don’t bother fucking her at all. Choose your next girlfriend as if she was your last girlfriend.
    .
    It is an outside bet that, within my lifetime, we can get a critical mass of men to adopt these views, and thus apply pressure to women as a whole to change their behavior. Still, if you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything.

  33. I just told my daughters one of the Olsen twins did a great thing and married a man 17 years older. She’s worth over $100m and knows an older man is the right choice.

        1. Seriously, if you watch A New York Minute, one of them gets tossed off a train and lands right at my feet.
          .
          They are cute but otherwise overrated. It was hilarious the way the internet did a countdown to their 18th birthday, at which point they were no longer jail bait.

  34. I’m beginning to think the wall doesn’t really exist for women anymore. I keep seeing hotter and hotter 40 and 50 years olds (plastic surgery etc) and I keep seeing more and more desperate young youthful guys willing to really date and even marry them.

    1. But they can’t BREED. I porked 38 and 40 year olds but with no dreams about having children with them.

        1. And this is the white plague. I don’t mean to be all racial about this but the fact that Canadians and Americans don’t want to have kids will be the death of our countries. We are importing hundreds of thousands of foreign invaders who do not share our culture.

        2. honestly, I’m not sure that’s bad in a lot of ways. Radical feminism is not as strong in India and China and certainly not Mexico. Western Europeans and US & Canada are the strongest bastions of feminism it seems. To me, that is the greatest threat to our country, so if an influx of immigration can offset that movement or work to bring back traditional morality and marriage, I think it may just be worth it.

        3. I live in China and I appreciate Chinese culture. I don’t just mean 5000 years of history that puts Canada and even Europe to shame, but rather modern practices. The men are hard working and the women are not slutty. Ok, so they spit in the streets and don’t understand the concept of a que. However, they are teachable.
          .
          Once you get past the whole Communist Dictatorship thing – which the average Chinese person in the street doesn’t give a shit about – what you are left with are people who, if you are a small “c” conservative, will agree with you on 9 out of 10 points.
          .
          However, Canada needs to feed the beast: 300,000 immigrants a year, plus refugees plus foreign students. That is mostly Arabs and Africans. This isn’t about race but rather culture. Islam is completely at odds with western values. It isn’t the answer. They have a few good notions when they are not flying planes into buildings.
          .
          Meanwhile, the Catholics are all fucked up. Get ’em while they’re good. The Pope is on a downslide. Latinas, the Irish, and the Portuguese were all good bets until recently.

  35. If there’s one lesson men need to take away from the manosphere, it’s that one of the biggest reasons not to settle with an older women is the amount of debt that she’ll carry with her as he gets older.
    When you think about it there’s actually a positive correlation between weight gain and debt increase in women as they get older. It’s another positive thing about younger women. A 22-year-old won’t have access to a credit card with a spending limit of more than $500. So if you do end up bailing her out, you will only have paid the same price you would’ve paid a prostitute.

  36. Understand this: whatever feminism once was, it has been overtaken and made the low-rent bitch of consumerism. Ads like this prove it unequivocally.

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