276 thoughts on “Why We Should Strive For Mass Unemployment”

1. While we could all certainly use more leisure time, and we do indeed live in a wage slave society, the unfortunate truth still remains: If you have no job, you starve. And there’s not much chance you’ll get hired over a robot who works for free.

   1. I disagree on the point of starving. Mark Zuckerberg is our age and capitalized 35b on one big idea. Now, at 26, he’ll never work another day in his life. Others are making millions day-trading Bitcoin which may be the next internet. Boatloads of people invested in Amazon, Apple, or Netflix 10 years ago and are set for life. Yes, I know, not everybody can do that, but all that matters is if YOU can. And if the answer is yes, you do not need to work a “job” in the traditional sense of the word and won’t starve.

      1. So you are an exception to the rule, then? You have ideas that will make you enough money to never have to work another day in your life?

         1. That’s the goal anyway. I am not “working” right now but have enough money to pay rent, maintain a car and travel (I just spent a month and a half in Europe.) I live a pretty simple life. And if I fail, I would have rather failed in dissenting against a system I don’t believe in rather than just towed the line and been miserable. What I’m telling people is they better learn to become exceptions to the rule because their job may not exist in 5 years..

      2. His big idea: people would post anything and everything about themselves online, and he would mine these data, unbeknownst to the herd, and if they are aware, so what? “I have nothing to hide!”
         Yes, he is an amazing human being. You might want to dig a bit and see who financed his company…

         1. Irrelevant. Does it change the fact that he’s a billionaire who has conquered the world and doesn’t have to work a day in his life? That was the purpose of the article for people who’d say “well if you don’t work you starve!” I don’t endorse or condemn how people do it – just stating it (not working while not being homeless or dead) can be done.

         2. If he is happy, cool. Only he knows. I know that I was earning very good money on a job I hated. It was not even close to being a good compensation.

         3. He didnt conquer dick- he was MADE, kinda like a mafia don.
            You might be the worst writer this site has ever seen.

         4. Well the article has about 50 comments in two hours and has only produced two worthless commentators. You, just a useless hater with nothing to contribute except ad hominems, and an anti-Semitic conspiracy nut. It’s ok, we need a few of you for comedic relief.
            In the mean time, you have work at 9. Go worry about your next promotion and talk to me when you have 0.01% of Zuckerberg’s money or power.

         5. Why would I want his money or power when I know how he achieved it? You dont know anything about the tech sector, the “winners” were all anointed…

         6. What is the point being made about Zuckerburg? He is a billionaire and therefore… ?

         7. I’m responding with examples to people who say “the man who doesn’t work starves” as if we’d suddenly topple over and die if we quit our 9-5’s en masse. It’s simply not true, unless you really believe most of society is useless and has no talent on which to monetize. He and millions of other people successfully defeated this game and will never work another day in their lives, in the traditional sense of the word.. Yes, I know he’s the exception to the rule. This is the whole point, I think the world would be a better place if everyone would strive to be the exception to the rule because what we have now is not sustainable. I believe most people are good enough at one thing that they can turn into a trade

         8. I don’t think pointing to Facebook as evidence for talent is a good model. Looking at the data, Facebook sold 16 billion dollars of advertising last year, with a profit of 10 billion. At its current stock price times the number of shares, the price of the entire company is almost $300 billion. At its current rate of profitability, it will need to continue for 30 years to justify its current price. And this ignores the time value of money (in other words someone will pay less than $300 billion today for something that will generate them $300 billion over the next 3 decades).
            Do you really believe facebook will be around in 30 years? Think about this: The iphone didn’t even EXIST a decade ago. Now it’s something that sells hundreds of millions of units a year and is a worldwide phenomenon. We didn’t even have personal computers 30 years ago. That’s how quickly technology changes things. Facebook already morphed from an online yearbook to a place where grandma and grandpa look at photos of their kids and “like” silly jokes and memes. How much longer will it be around?
            The point is, Zuckerburg is an anomaly. He was able to cash in on an idea due to a broken financial system, but I would be highly skeptical if his $300 billion company ever even sells $300 billion in ads, much less earns that much in profit. It will be gone before it even earns $300 billion in revenue, which will make its current valuation seem silly. But since people have short term time horizons, and stocks are traded daily, he can cash out today because some people are dumb enough to believe this is a $300 billion company. Of course, it’s not, but at the same time it’s true that you can buy a share of this company today at $100 and possibly sell it for $120 next year. Without facebook becoming 20% more profitable. It will of course be unsustainable, but in the gambling world of wall street, it can happen. I don’t credit Zuckerburg as much as I credit the Ponzi scheme makers on wall street who created this game.
            You can also mine bitcoins which means just turn on a computer with an expensive graphics card and you will have money magically appear in your account to buy food, shelter, and clothing with. That, also, is unsustainable, but it’s true that currently, one can live without working. But in the long run, there’s no way that could possibly work. And if all 100 million Americans who are currently not working tried to mine bitcoins, there’s no way they would all magically have food, shelter and clothing just by switching on their computer.
            One final stat that proves facebook is BS. They have around a billion active users, if you believe them. They sold $16 billion in ads last year. The majority of those users (this is simple math) are kids and people in third world countries, ie people with very, very little disposable income to spend. Yet facebook charged $16 PER USER to advertise to them. I am no longer on FB, but when I was, I couldn’t tell you a single ad I ever saw. These advertisers are not getting their moneys worth for $16.

         9. I’m not making any claims about the sustainability of Facebook. You’re right, technology moves quick, but by the time social networking as we know it dies out Zuckerberg will be an old man. What does he care? I don’t care what technology looks like in 2100 or even in 30 years. If I can capitalize in the next 15 I could be set for life, and you only have to be lucky or good once in the present moment. I believe the methods will change, but they will not go away. Our kids and grandkids will have even more opportunity to self-sustain than we did.
            I trade Bitcoin. I’ve made $50-75 in a day sitting on my ass. I watch it move and cash out gains at the end of the night, not touching my initial investment. And I got in late, that’s my only regret. There are people who were into it 5-6 years ago who are undoubtedly millionaires by now. Just like people who bought, Amazon, Netflix, or Apple 10 years ago. And trading isn’t always as complicated as it seems. Anyone with an IQ of 100 and an 101-level understanding of economics can do it. The people who are studying complicated trigonometric charts all hours of the day and night are penny pinchers focused on 7% growth over a 10 year period.
            Successful traders of BTC see 12% gains in a day. Someone who got into BTC three years ago with a few thousand can make a part-time or FT job out of it now. But people who say “he who doesn’t work starves” are not willing to go out and look for these disruptive juggernauts. They’re out there. Wait till Uber and Airbnb stock comes out. People say BTC is the next internet – if it’s not, something else will take its place as the next big thing. And tons of “lazy” people that don’t have a “real job” will strike while the iron is hot before it fizzles out.

         10. The point is that these stories (facebook, bitcoin, etc.) are problems or loops, or to think of it in a Matrix-like way, “leaks in the code” of our capitalist American economy. The same way that rich politburo guys were leaks or inefficiencies of the communist system of the Soviet Union. They are the cost of doing business under that economic system. But they are not sustainable for the main body of people to undertake.
             Like I said, if all 100 million unemployed Americans played with Bitcoin, they couldn’t magically get $50 to $75 a day in purchasing power. Because to create $50 in merchandise for consumers to use, producers would not be receiving $50 worth of anything. In the short run, yes, it can gain someone like you some cash. But 100 million x $50 = $5 billion a day. The whole point of economics is to divvy up scares resources. Just because 100 million people turned on a machine to run a bitcoin game, doesn’t mean $5 billion of new goods are produced.
             Actually, what happens is that prices would simply be inflated by $5 billion every day. The players of bitcoin would benefit, and the remaining population would see their purchasing power diluted by their proportional share of $5 billion. That’s what is called a zero sum game. It can’t work as national policy. All it does is move around pieces of the pie from those not playing bitcoin, to those who are, but no more pie is baked.
             Now I am going to have to rant on IPOs and going public and stock. The way a company sells stock is by having an initial public offering. Shares of stock are created and sold to investors in exchange for money that a new company needs in order to fund its business operations. But in the case of airbnb (or facebook, or countless other examples), the firms have no need of this money, or startup capital. The firms are already functioning and operating as is. The funds generated from the sale of stock are only used to pay off the creators. Throughout the history of capitalism and stock markets, this was never seen as a purpose of issuing stock. Yet now it is the rule, not even the exception.
             Let’s say airbnb decided that it needed $50 million to buy a lot of computer equipment, program it, hire some engineers, hire some sales people and consultants to get it started in multiple cities, have some money to buy insurance policies for tenants trashing the place, etc. So it issues a million stock certificates at $50 each. The return is clearly tied to the company’s ability to create value and change those raw materials of computers and software into a viable business with customers and word of mouth. If it works, each shareholder will see his $50 grow into $75, $100, or $200 or more.
             However, in today’s environment, the value creation has already been done. Airbnb already exists. It is already functional and operational and profitable. The risk phase is over. Risk is tied to reward, so with low risk, there is lower reward. The amount of stock sold won’t be based on any real company need, but just an arbitrary number the owners pick. So lets say they want $500 million sold. Ten times more than they needed in the example above. They sell it, and all that money goes to the owners. The investors have very little ability to profit, because the business development has already occurred, all they do now is own a small fraction of a company that is making money, but it has little ability to become more valuable. And they own 1/10 of the amount they would in the example above.
             However, saying all that, and accepting that our financial system has operated with Zero Interest Rates, a fiat money, and a Ponzi stock market for far longer than I ever thought possible, I will concede to you that in the short run, you are possibly making the wiser move. While absolutely horrible for national policy, it would be great for the individual who speculates, trades bitcoin, daytrades, sells IPO shares for a company that is already up and running, etc. We are living in a system that is not run for the greater good, and you are probably right, and I am being too idealistic and rational. I’m kind of stubborn and also haven’t accepted the “fuck it, just bang as many sluts as possible” scenario, either.

   2. What type of moral value does a system really have in a first world country if it lets people starve. Is this not the greatest embarrassment and indictment of the capitalism system. In my mind such a system is incurably morally bankrupt.

      1. This is an annoying fact, but I am not much of a moralizing person. So while I would like to see a solution, I realize that most ideas that would come to my head would really end up being about bullying a handful of people to provide for others.
         I think one may get some interesting results if one thought over property rights and land ownership. My point is: Who was the first one to buy and thus ‘rightfully’ own land? Exactly. No one. It was captured and somebody said ‘this is mine’. Then all agreed. What if we give a piece of land to everybody and there they have some cows and apple trees and what not. Or something along those lines. Or even better: People can form groups with people of all necessary skills and then possess an even greater piece of land. But oh well, I am just rambling. I really have no solution. Some things about life just stink because they stink. It is nobody’s fault.

         1. Even Economists can’t answer the question about who actually owes a piece of land as it was created by God as a “natural good” for all. Ownership after money is one of the most powerful abstractions of the human mind, but, when you analyze the concept you realize it’s a chimera and a fiction. Even if I own a field, how far beneath do I owe? To the center of the Planet or how far above into space. Do I owe everything that lives in it like the birds, rabbits and insects?
            In reality we own absolutely nothing, not even a blade of grass and perhaps if we realized this, rather than wanting to own everyhting we’d be better off.

         2. It is surely a useful concept in that it has helped society function the way it does. But as you say, it leaves many open questions and these are worth exploring.
            Besides, most of the ‘rights’ we hold, we hold only as long as authority does not see it fit to make an exception in our case. Every ‘human’ right in the German basic law has some kind of ‘except in cases….’ addendum. What is the fucking point?
            ‘You have the freedom of expression, UNLESS you hurt somebody’s feelings’
            Great!

         3. Mark Twain said that German was a language of exceptions. I guess your laws are no different either, hey!

2. Funny thing is 100+ years ago and prior to industrialization, most people were self-employed on land as farmers. People lived within their means, families were bigger and happier and were generally self-sufficient. 100+ years later and it looks like we’re slowly heading back that way.
   Too many people think they’re entitled to a job, well guess what: you’re not entitled to anything.
   The only reason that many unskilled, labour-intensive jobs even exist is because a human being is the cheapest way to complete that aspect of whatever product/service the company produces.
   Tomorrow, if a computer/machine/robot can do what you’re doing today faster, cheaper and better, you will be gone. Truck drivers (self-driving trucks), cashiers (robots/computers), etc. will soon all be things of the past, just like Uber is basically wiping out the taxi industry right now.
   Best defense against this is to become self-sufficient and reject consumerism.

   1. Good post.
      It’s unfortunate we were born to Baby Boomer parents who are still parroting this 9-5 “real job” life path (and confusing millennials in the process) when it’s so clearly on the way out. It peaked in their lifetime and they can’t let go of the idea for their children as it would mean the 100,000 hours they spent working in their lifetime were more than likely a waste of time.

      1. Exactly.
         We lived through a period of an “inflated society” where goods and services became increasingly sophisticated (with the advent of more sophisticated technology) and required more human input which produced an inordinately huge amount of labour-intensive industrial jobs and other administrative jobs to support those goods and services, but technology is closing the gap and computers/robotics will eventually surpass the manual dexterity of what most things a human being can do and do it faster, cheaper and better.
         Almost all unskilled labour and administrative jobs that support these goods and services, in the process, will gradually be wiped out.
         In the end, we’ll have a very few, small amount of people with complete control from beginning to end to produce the said products, and everyone else either unemployed or self-empolyed.
         The only way out is to become self-sufficient, limit your dependency and slowly reject consumerism.

      2. Fuck man. This is literally the ‘ideal man’ picture in my head, or has been for a time. Get a good job, convince mommy (by proxy of another woman) that you are awesome and get the honor to bring up some brats that do not eve nrespect you.

      3. I always used to tell my parents “Show me one man who got rich by ‘working hard’”. Their usual response was: “But you need a diploma. No one will hire you without a diploma.”

         1. Bwahaha. Yeah, sad shit. Fucking morons. I feel ashamed for having bought into this bullcrap.
            One employee of a company I did a contract job for had spent like 30 years working for some little stupid fuck of a company. He told me: All I want is, when I am about to die, to know that I did lead a good respectable life.
            Poor sob.

         2. It’s just that people see some kind of false security in that. They prefer an average, boring life over taking risks and succeeding. That’s the way people were told for millenia. In the end, my parents got my point and told me: “Do whatever you want.” (But not in a “OK, I give up” way.)

         3. Success is relative in and of itself. That is another pitfall. Trying to be in the top 1% or something like that. But the soul does not care for this mathematical stuff. The soul does not care whether mathematically and statistically, you SHOULD love your job.
            The only valid definition of success is that you love what you do in the way you are doing it.

         4. Key words “in the way you are doing it.” I know many people who got to their “dream stage” in career, or personal business advancement, only to find out 1) They made themselves a slave to their customer base, or 2) Are only in the field they chose, and even title they chose, but NOT in the WAY they envisioned.
            A friend of mine who went into ITish, web, computer, video, entry programming masters degrees field is now making decent scratch, only to fly around the country shooting web commercials for a major real estate firm, drinking every other night, and not really expanding the business. At some point in business, if it involves needing multiple people, or heavy automation, you need to move away from “owner/operator,” to just “owner,” unless of course its something you really love like to personally do hands-on… << which is the rarest of all, and what guys like Tim Ferris refer to as the “new rich.”

         5. Exactly. I used to dream of being a film producer. I had visions and ideas. But then, society already has an idea what a ‘video producer’ is, right? So you originally said ‘I want to be a video producer’ and then you become one but you are not at all doing what you wanted to do. Instead of making exciting movies, you are shooting stoopid commercials for companies you despise.

         6. He just lived a shitty life. I should feel pity for people like these, but for some fucked up reason, I don’t.

         7. Taking risks means you may succeed or you may fail. The majority of people don’t have the stomach for failure, and they delusion themselves their entire lives that what they do is the right thing. The bold will take risks, many will fail but the ones that succeed are the ones you see driving around in 6 figures cars. Those are the people that run this join. The rest are just a wash fighting over a toaster on Black Friday. While I bust my ass and my brains, take risks and run the win lose roller coaster they probably sit in front of their TVs and stuff their faces.. You know what? Fuck them. Fuck them all.

         8. Thank you for this, your comment has rung true to me in my present career situation at the minute. You’ve given me cause for much thought.

         9. Listen, you are absolutely right. I make a shit load of money but I am not happy with what I do. If I were to make 300K this year I will take that money and use it to put myself in the position to do what I really love…. for an income of 50K. I don’t care, really. Doing what you love is all that matters…

         10. When not too many people had diplomas or degrees and the economy was starting to shift from manufacturing to a services based economy a number of decades ago, having a ‘diploma’ was a great thing. You would go for a job interview and you would be up against a handful of others. Now a days the market is awash with over qualified applicants. Saying you need a diploma is basically a way for the employer to cull down the number of applicants to a reasonable level.
             I personally think the baby boomers went through the golden age of prosperity, though if you were in finance or IT during its boom periods in the last 30 yrs you could do quite well.

         11. There’s another side to those who “attempt” the leap from the corporate hierarchical fuckery. They know they don’t like it, and figure a similar amount of energy input to “what they always wanted to do” will suffice. Well it won’t.
             To go it alone means 2x if not 4x the upfront work before a single penny comes in, and there’s no formal schooling that will prepare you for that, along with all the risk. I know a good handful of people who left 40-60k jobs, just to open a business and only bring in 70-100k tops, which is really a wash, when you consider standard benefits packages at most companies and the 24/7 nature of running your own shit.
             If you’re doing what you really like, AND the way you like it, one of the most exciting parts of personal business, free lancing, etc. is the insanity of it all. And it’s during prolonged periods of insanity, being pulled in 10 different directions, that you make those leaps and bound strides in life. Our population sure as hell isn’t cut out for that. Maybe 5% even bother trying.

         12. Neither do I. Pity seems inappropriate. I believe that everyone makes just the experiences they want to make. If anything, it makes me sad when I think about living that kind of life myself.

         13. Glad to read that.

         14. Yep.
             In 2014, I once earned 10.000 EUR in 10 days of work. Once the money was on my account, I thought: Cool.
             And that was it.
             The only real joy that came out of it was learning to drive the motorcycle for the corresponding license. But that cost me a mere 2.000 EUR. The rest of the money went out for some pointless shit I sold later.

         15. Yeah, it takes a lot of time to deconstruct all those beliefs in oneself that keep one from trying. I am approaching a place where I almost have the courage to do what I want to do. Then again, I am not absolutely certain I yet know what that is.
             I have the idea – do not laugh – to be something of a vagabond and bum for a while. Take a few thousand and just wander the countries and live on very low cost for a few years. Meditate. Make photographs.
             The problem is, I think, that many do not even know what they really like. They may have brief flashes of fascination flare up and fade as quickly as they came. And they will confuse an epic quest for heroism and approval with their true passion.

         16. There is nothing more souless than the feminized corporate American work place. Nasty little bottom bitches of both sexes trying to screw coworkers over. Nasty littles ass crack licking Beta male middle managers trying to justify their useless existence by absurd make-work they create for themselves. The people who tend to make careers as managers in this enviroment are pussy-fied sociopaths. Others spend their lives on their knees groveling for their job. Men were not made to sit on their ass in a cube farm playing these petty games of office politics, which is really just a bunch of miserable cunts engaged in an endless cat fight.

         17. Diplomas don’t mean shit these days. What’s important these days is your personal relationships in the business world. There are two main classes of people today (in the professional world I mean). The ones that do, and the ones that grease the wheels. You have to have very good relationship with the greasers. They’re the ones that hold the door into the business world, into the real well paying jobs/contracts. You will never get the job you want by simply applying and going to an interview. That’s not how it works. For the good paying jobs you are simply being placed.
             This is a dynamic that a lot of people are not paying attention to, but it’s just how it works… Knowing good greasers is critical.. And you don’t need too many.. 2 or 3 are quite enough. They will open countless doors for you (of course they’ll get their cut, everybody has to pay their bills), and you will not be chosen; you will be the one that chooses. Huge difference.

         18. Lots of men got rich by working hard.

         19. Carpe Mundum (I hope I’ve not butchered the latin)
             We must seize the world. We must free ourselves, a political movement of independently wealthy, or streams of income, men would be a force to be reckoned with.

         20. Why laugh? Sounds like a rational idea to me. I want to get a copy of Aaron Clarey’s Enjoy the Decline and see how many entitlements I can get. We might as well use the system to our advantage as much as possible. The future does not look very bright, so I suppose we might as well enjoy what we can while there’s still time.

         21. I think men willing to take heads, as in those you have taken your name from are what is going to be needed. There is no bloodless way out of this mess.

         22. Damn, the motorcycle safety class costs 2,000 EUR? Riding must be some sort of luxury over there…

         23. Applied force is an extension of political policy. My concern is other than the redpill and the manosphere, we’re too spread out, not yet organised into large groups, with leaders and clear aims. Any use of force before men organise will not be enough to shock the system. Instead there will be small but often flashes in the pan.

         24. I think it is about 1300 for the lessons or so. One lesson is about an hour and that costs some 50 EUR or what. Then the official tests in theory and practical skills cost a few hundred more. I am just guessing here, I forgot what the exact pricing was. But do not forget that you also need motorcycle clothing which is quite expensive.

         25. You sir have a way with words. I’ve been told I was a little eccentric but you make me look tame. Well done and very true

         26. This is exactly it, most people ignore those flashes of fascination, and justify it because of fear or practicality or a million lame excuses. And day by day they become more souless. They are the people who hate their jobs and who people avoid at parties. They never took a risk, did something crazy. I remember going to Colombia when it was actually dangerous. There was no sleepwalking walking down the street, there were people with guns, and you had to be watching out every moment. You will hear people who have been in war say something similar, often they miss how alive they felt, remember every moment like it was burned into their memory.

         27. Good point. There is one caveat to it. If you are a narcissist, those flashes of fascination will often appear when you think of doing something that may make others love you. Happened to me. Went fine for about a year, then I collapsed and wondered what had happened.
             Definitely worth working on that shit with meditations and therapy.

   2. This is what leftists don’t get.
      Fundamentally everyone is going to have to be responsible for themselves.
      When leftists keep asking for more “free” shit from the governments and overlords, they forget that what they are truly selling off is going to be their, and everyone else’s, freedom.
      How many leftists do you know that start their own businesses? Create jobs for people through new economic models? That spend hours of their day mastering a craft so they can become self-sufficient?
      Many of the leftists I encounter are all talk.

      1. Freedom doesn’t mean anything to them. Not even shit, it literally means nothing to them. They prefer a society where everyone is exactly the same. Doesn’t matter how that sameness comes about.

         1. Only people who are worse than average preach “equality” (read “sameness”) in any sense of the word.

         2. Yes, the majority. The average preach it as well, lest they lose their averageness.

      2. Agreed. Conservatives tend to be more entrepreneurial and self-sufficient whereas leftists tend to be more dependent on a centralized agency, i.e. big government.
         That’s why most leftists are such irresponsible, spoon-fed, dependent people and can be easily manipulated to make them believe whatever you want them to believe.

      3. Well, they certainly have perfected the art of bull-sh!t.

      4. You nailed it. It always about working the ‘system’ (complaining like a an eternally squeaking wheel) like it’s a never ending pool of resource to their every whim.
         The concept of agency & self suffiency is so alien to these….people.

   3. That is great advice to give to a person. It is a horrible ideal to follow when creating public policy though. Bottom line is when it comes to policies it is a numbers game. People without jobs become homeless. You can say you want to live in a country with a lot of homeless people but that is a lie. Those countries suck. Give people jobs with liveable wages at the expense of the wealthiest and it will benefit the entire nation.

      1. You might be susprised that I agree on the living wage bit. As long as these jobs still exist, people who ARE willing to work should not be punished with sub-human wages. $12-15 depending on the cost of living. And for anyone who’d call me a commie claiming it’d eliminate jobs, thats empty theory that works on a premise which presumes CEO’s would not be willing to part with ANY profit. Yes it would eliminate jobs if the CEO was unwilling to make $23 million a year instead of $24 million.
         Plus, any losses to the taxpayer would even out by the number of people coming off the dole.

         1. That’s exactly right. In Japan capitalism works for people, not for CEOs. They understand that people won’t continually settle for less. I don’t know why Americans just sit back and take it.

         2. I predict the living wage will just get people replaced by robots in our current culture.

         3. Its not that an increase to $15 dollars an hour to a burger flipper would eliminate jobs (although I argue it would ultimately). Its the shockwave it sends upward. Now the skilled contractor laying stone for $15 hour wants more money because he’s more skilled than a $15 dollar an hour burger flipper. Now that the stone worker makes more money because of the burger flipper, the white collar coder and accountant want more money because they are more skilled than a stone worker…onward and upward this trend goes.
            This ends up in revenue being destroyed at the market level as stockholders demand more return from their investments not less.
            The only answer would be is to cut costs somewhere to appease shareholders. I promise you it wont come from the CEO’s annual bonus or expense account.
            Shareholders demand annual growth at all costs. A rise in minimum wage is not an easy thing to implement and especially at such large intervals of even $2 per quarter. The other markets around that wage increase would implode. This is the argument, that the living wage has not increased since the 70’s, and created a dangerous imbalance the markets cannot adjust for without overnight collapse.
            Merry Christmas.

         4. Right. The minimum wage just is. Like absolute zero and it’s determined by the market forces and not by government mandate. What you describe is absolutely correct. The byproduct is of course inflation that resets the actual work value back in its place (or it should; not anymore I think due to many other reasons).

         5. I agree with everything you said, but what is the alternative? Let millions of people go on in a modern day soft slavery with no access to a decent life?

         6. I don’t propose to have the answers brother. Men much smarter than me in economics suggest a serious collapse in our lifetimes. They point out that the housing bubble collapse of 2008 was a canary in the coal mine.
            Reading about our country’s economic condition these last few years leaves me with the impression that there is no alternative but a hard correction that will usher in martial law, a police state or outright revolution. Indicators of people buying guns en-mass and our government trying to initiate gun control suggest the zeitgeist is moving in a violent direction.
            Soft slavery will endure until the slaves wake up, or the market corrects itself and the slaves are forced awake.
            I urge you to do your own research and seek answers. I would be happy to read an article regarding your findings.

         7. Were people meant to “raise a family” on a job’s wages from McDonalds ever? Not in my lifetime and I’m over 40. Besides just the shockwave you mention in skilled workers making “salary comparisons,” etc.. some will just say “OK fuck this, I’m a skilled brick layer, but now I’m cutting every corner I can to make my work ‘appear’ good”, but the work goes to shit 3 years down the road (and just out of warranty), cracking out, because they mixed looser mortar so it was lighter to sling, didn’t provide proper backing, and laid brick in freezing temps with improper heat, etc.
            The last thing the nation needs is lower quality from ANYTHING manufacturing based, or production service-based sectors. Labor continues to be #1 or #2 of Cost of Goods Sold. A big bottom floor bump will inflate everything beyond natural rates. Add in $20T national debt, and watch the CPI and PPI do some crazy shit.. like bubble wrap popping.

         8. Indeed. To your point imagine the inverse: Skilled workers such as contractors and mid-level office grunts say: “fuck this I work to hard for nothing, I’ll go to McDonalds for less responsibility at $15 dollars hourly and get a better lifestyle with fewer hours and headaches.”
            Now you have a run on burger flipping jobs because they provide more income for less work. Some may say your job is a measure of social status, but if an office worker making $12.50 is living a life of hell on antidepressants, and 60 hour work weeks, sees more money with less bullshit, they will jump ship and rationalize their status away as they can now afford better “shit”.

         9. People in Toronto Canada (including myself) are talking about buying guns for protection against terrorists, demographic changes, economic collapse, etc.
            This is unheard of in our culture and this is unheard of for me personally. But some part of me wants that extra sense of independence in case it literally is just me vs. the wild.
            Seeing the European economy collapse I think has woken some people up to the possibility that shit might hit the fan. As Quintus Curtius has written about, civilization is just a veil over our more primal nature.

         10. Do yourself the favor and purchase a rifle. Its a good investment and holds its resale value if you change your mind. I recommend a mid-level .308 bolt action rifle with quality scope, this set up won’t hurt your bank account much and can serve various purposes.
             The saying goes: Better to have gun and not need it, than need a gun and not have it.

         11. There’s just one problem – Guns are illegal in Canada and you have to be a circus trainer to jump through all the hoops in order to get a permit. On top of that, there are so many strange rules while keeping your weapon that you will most likely end up dead by the time you would actually need to use it in an emergency situation.

         12. And the fact that some people will not pony up $14 for a big Mac and sales will plumet. I have seen the automatic order takers in some places, so there is going to be a drop in employement in the fast food industry in any case to cover costs.

         13. If increasing pay loses jobs, then by that stellar logic, lowering pay will create them. Therefore the minimum wage should be lowered. Lol.

         14. Then let it. Let the CEO’s scramble to put the fires out on their children’s backs.

         15. Reality check.
             1. $15/hr isn’t much money these days
             2. Years ago when we had a robust manufacturing base, the unskilled and a uneducated could still make a livable wage in a factory. Now they have to work in fast food or Walmart for peanuts.
             3. All the problems described here are signs that capitalism is dying of its own internal contradictions. We are headed to the final stage of economics; a publicly owned and controlled economy. You can run from the dialectic but you can’t hide.

         16. Inflation has been out of control since the early 70s(this started right around the first energy crisis in 1973).
             Here’s an interesting anecdote: a women worked as an assistant manager at Macy’s here in NYC. She only made $5/hr yet was able to afford a one bedroom apartment in Manhattan. The year? 1971.

         17. Yet it costs very little labor to make a big mac, probably a few pennies. So you double that and a big mac costs a dime more. Big deal.

         18. Arizona wants to pay teens working part time, after school $4.65 an hour – and people think we don’t need any regulation whatsoever? Without it, have no doubt, we will get to a place where corporations will work people for free. We already have that with “unpaid internships”

   4. 100+ years ago, just saw a movie that took Place back at that time, “In the Heart of the Sea”, a Good Man’s Movie, no Bullshit or Femmy Fags or PC crap back then, the Liberals won’t like that Movie, too Masculine.

   5. One major issue in society at the minute is the belief that many hold is their entitlements. I agree with you completely, in relation to this. My main bug bears are:
      The entitlement to have a long term partner – No you must earn it, by developing the qualities someone would want in a mate.
      The entitlement to reproduce – No, you must prove yourself fit to reproduce, by attracting a quality mate through your own self development and becoming a good potential parent; able to provide the basics for your children in a loving environment and teach them how to succeed in life.
      The entitlement of benefits – No, what have you done, or are you doing to benefit society, in order to receive your welfare payment from society. Why should society have to pay for your existence. There is no natural law which states that any individual has to survive.
      I could go on and on…

   6. compelled to attend minimum 12 years of brainwashing [school] which trains a brain to be employable but no ‘entitlement’ to employment or any benefit from said compulsion… why participate at all ?

   7. I have heard it said “we bred dogs from wolfs – we owe dogs a place near out fire” but when we breed workers from humans we owe them nothing… we treat our dogs better than each other.

      1. Breed workers from humans? You offer a job for a going rate, the man accepts or declines. He accepts, works, you owe him his pay. Thats it. It isn’t slavery or serfdom.
         I never understood why some people, union labor in particular, believe their employer should become their defunct parents.

         1. The first paragraph sounds simple enough, but are programmed from the age of 4 to accept this I the only way. Obedience from the cradle to the grave. So creativity is stifled and people are pushed towards this system. At 22, when they break into the workforce after getting that diploma, the work feels like slavery because it’s never what they wanted. And if they express a desire to walk away, they are shamed and guilt tripped by society and even family with loaded words like “lazy”

         2. The school system for Gen X and for millennial both is a slave training academy. Kids are dulled down and locked up for 8 hours a day to get the accustomed to the tedious grind of life on the American plantation. My natural inclination was to be outside, hiking, moving, involved in physical activity. Quite naturally young men don’t wish to be stifled and bored. I loathed school and did just enough to keep the system and my old man off my back.

         3. “offer a job for the going rate, the man…” – not without ‘the man’ acquiring the knowledge and skills prior. Mandatory compulsive schooling more akin to indoctrination than anything else proving the man has the knowledge and skills the state deemed valuable… but not qualifying him for the job. My point is that if schooling is compulsive it should be useful. An education is a form of indoctrination, so much that generations of it has the same results as ‘breeding’. Which may or may not qualify him – More likely he’ll have to buy large amounts of addition training to be simply considered. But MAN UP right John? The man wouldn’t be offered the job without training and or experience, knowledge, skills, aptitude, ability to pass the interview, demonstration of knowledge, filling out the application correctly, be politically correct, non offensive, qualify for the most recent Affirmative Action plan imposed, [women, color, nationality, minority…] pass the background and drug screen [never mind alcohol and big pharma], be on good terms with he HR chick,… and many other criteria required to be offered the job – all of which comes back to the schooling and training = breeding. Mandatory breeding for a job offer wouldn’t you say – Then maybe after al that he can Man Up and take the job or reject it. Parental employers my ass.

         4. You mad bro? Once you are 18, you can flee your surroundings unless you are chained to your mom’s skirt. Ditch college. Learn a trade and leave. What keeps you there? Fear? Your parole officer?

         5. Man Up John and breed some workers

         6. Man Up and breed some workers John.

   8. Aren’t Ubers just an evolution of the taxi industry rather than a replacement?

   9. And avoid debt like the plague. You don’t need to live the rat race if you don’t have a big nut to crack every month.

      1. Wouldnt that entail avoiding a wife and children?

   10. “Funny thing is 100+ years ago and prior to industrialization, most people were self-employed on land as farmers. People lived within their means, families were bigger and happier and were generally self-sufficient. 100+ years later and it looks like we’re slowly heading back that way.” – Yeah 100 years ago we were still WASP Christians and didn’t have to worry about all of you dark, niggerish foreigners. Yeah North America will once again rise to greatness with all you inferior dark immigrants as the new yeoman farmer backbone of a 1000 Year Reich/Patriarchy. RIIIIGHT! Embracing Judaism, turning our collective back on Christianity and opening our borders to non-whites like you is what led us to this sorry state of affairs.

       1. “Embracing Judaism, turning our collective back on Christianity and opening our borders to non-whites like you is what led us to this sorry state of affairs.”
          Long before the floodgates were opened, who gave women the right to vote? Who implemented no-fault divorce? Who ignited the sexual revolution? Who eventually opened the floodgates? That’s right, it was your NWO/Globalist forefathers, you fucking idiot. So why won’t you go after them and their progeny?
          You’ve already established yourself as the Crown defeatist pussy of RoK and a NWO/Globalist shill, so I guess you’re used to talking out of your ass.

3. What we actually witness is how the number of useless jobs grows – HRs, marketing managers etc. The bureaucracy grows bigger. Some employers are proud of how they created new jobs, while in reality they created a safe environment for a parasite.
   https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7b/da/12/7bda12c7321eb21a19a2022beb991364.jpg

   1. As the old adage goes:
      If you can’t do, teach.
      If you can’t teach, administer.
      If you can’t administer, become HR.
      I absolutely hate those worthless pos.

   2. Only because we have Socialist aspects deeply rooted in America, Capitalism would be Fine without all the Government Social Programs that take money out of a Man’s Pay check and give it to Parasites.

      1. It’s not only in America, it’s everywhere. The system doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to work. I would absolutely love to live in a Capitalistic society (a real one this time), but Capitalism always gets plagued with some form of Marxist-Communistic Socialism.

   3. HR managers actually fulfill demand in the labor market. But it is demand based on the fact that companies desire to not get raped by the sexual harassment industry, not based on the fact that HR people actually make the company money. You just have to have them around so that you are perceived to be responsive to complaints and bitching so that some woman can’t take you to court and say that you ignored her complaints about “hostile work environment.” If you aren’t seen to be doing something about the complaints of drama queens who work at your company, you could lose millions.
      I bet they also are around to constantly interview people who don’t have a chance in hell of getting hired. No matter how ghetto a job seeker is, HR will sit down with them, interview them, and say that they will keep their application on file and all that shit. If the company didn’t hire HR people to do that for them, then they would have to turn people away without even interviewing them. They just don’t have the time to interview every asshole that wants a job. But if they don’t interview everyone, it can be considered discriminatory.
      If our laws were not designed to bleed companies dry so that lawyers can get rich, then those HR people would not need to exist. Many of them would go find their true calling: Being a nanny, being a stay-at-home mom, being someone’s mistress, etc.

4. He understood that if a century later we had a workforce in which 70% of Americans despised their jobs, there would be a much greater need for time off to allow for spiritual healing and contemplative perspective.

   Good perspective. Among the capitalists, many are just obedient sheep as well. ‘Work hard’ so that others approve of you. Work a job you hate and never moan about it, because hey, be grateful and make daddy and Uncle Sam proud. Tales of heroic workers who ‘never missed a day at work in five years’ and ‘would not even have thought of demanding a week of vacation a year’. Fucking slave doctrine. Capitalism is good because it serves the self the best. Not because it gives you the oh so merciful opportunity to be a faceless cog in the wheel of a pointless corporation that is not even owned by anybody, thus not cared by anybody – more akin to a machine out of control; a machine that everybody is afraid of and yet everybody tries to get a piece of.

   1. Genius man. If you are not writing articles here, you should be. I did one year in Catholic school/Prison at the age of 14, and had a Spanish teacher who had a “respected” reputation because she hadn’t missed a day of work in 37 years. I wonder how many days she came in with the flu, or just a tired mind that was begging for a rest.
      Worked with another guy, a devout Muslim, who wore unused vacation at work as some sort of badge of honor. I on the other hand used it the moment I had it, then used my sick days to extend a trip and summoned the union if they wanted to talk about it. Some people man…

      1. Those people you mentioned must lead very interesting lifes.

      2. The trouble is this, I think: There are gifted confident people who truly love their jobs and will even do them when they are sick. I fully empathize with that. They naturally get respected a lot. But then others want this same kind of ‘respect’ and they give a kind of name to that work ethic and use words like ‘virtue’ and ‘discipline’ and basically imitate that relentless zest of the confident worker without really having the heart for it. They do not see a man who loves his work. They see a man who follows the steps ‘discipline’ and ‘virtue’ to earn approval from other people, daddy’s love so to speak.
         Going in sick is quite something normal among these people, yes. My old boss was basically like that. When I told him I was sick, he gave me the same lecture always. ‘Clients do not care’ and blah blah. Well, they do not have to.
         So I guess it really depends on whether you love what you are doing. If you do, this stuff is just normal to you, because work is practically healing in and of itself. But if you loathe your job, this is very ill-advised.
         Thanks for the compliment. I wrote one article and submitted a few others. Most of what I write is rather personal and does not fit the style here so much, but I will surely try again. Meanwhile, you can always look up my blog, linked in my profile here.

   2. That’s a Pyramid scheme not capitalism

      1. Well, call it whatever you want. I am not big on ideals, so I do not really care if I offend any ‘true’ capitalist. I was just meaning to discuss the idea I explained. Maybe it is not capitalism, but many who call themselves capitalists think like this.

5. The only jobs keeping wages on par with inflation are STEM degrees, many which pay far in excess of $95,000.
   One thing I’ve noticed amongst the STEM crowd is that their relative wealth and education shields them from social decay. [Their jobs and futures more secure, divorce rates are lower, they generally set their own schedules to balance work and family obligations].
   It’s either STEM, start your own business, or live in misery. Welcome to global economy.

   1. If by “starting your own business” you mean something web- based and not bricks and mortar like a organic burger joint, then I agree (but how many people can do this?)

      1. Ironically, there is a shortage of workers so the government has to issue H1-B visas to fill STEM jobs that pay well above $95,000+ per year.
         Its the foreigner students making real money because Americans are too busy getting bullshit liberal arts degrees.

         1. You are kidding about h1Bs, correct?
            There is no shortage. There is no growth, so corporations want to sack people who make good money- make it appear things are good.
            Look up what happened at Disney recently to some tech folks- had to train their replacements(this has been going on for over a decade).

         2. No, there are plenty of American STEM grads. Tech likes H1-Bs because they can pay them peanuts and they don’t bitch because it’s more than they’d make back in the Punjab.

         3. Actually, I’m not kidding.
            The STEM jobs are dominated by foreigners on H1-B visas.
            Those Disney Techs you referenced were displaced by foreigners with advanced computer programming degrees.
            Part of this is due to the superior schooling Asians receive. The Japanese teach Thermodynamics to 6th graders at the same age Americans are taught geometry.
            The other part is that corporations have the right to pursue profit. Working 80+ per week is standard in Asia while most Americans are conditioned to 40.
            All things considered, who would you hire?

         4. Superior slave training you mean?
            You answered your own question- they work 80 hrs a wk, yet us dumb ‘murikans are “conditioned” to work 40(which is horseshit, no one has worked 40 hrs in the corp world in decades).
            This site is going full fuckin retard.

         5. I’m a patriot so I’d hire Americans. To do otherwise is economic treason, and deserves the punishment traditionally meted out to traitors.

         6. How many unemployed American doctors, engineers, and physicists do you know of?

         7. That’s why I follow ROK. It’s funnier than the Onion.

         8. So you wouldn’t hire Einstein, Tesla, or Michio Kaku? They were foreign born scientists that came to America.

         9. Don’t tread on me! We the people!

         10. Very, very few of the H1-b’s are anywhere near that caliber. Basically, they’re wage suppressors, like most foreign labor.

         11. I agree, you are retarded. They have superior education and superior work ethic because they are used to working 80+ hours per week.
             You’re one of those kids who never got a STEM degree and are now confined to a bullshit service job.

         12. Most of the neurosurgeons at my Hospital are Indian. North Dakota is 98% white btw.
             He got an advanced degree while the local are busy debating transgender issues.

         13. Says the guy who sits on a computer or I phone made in China.

         14. THEY
             ARE
             CHEAPER
             TO
             EMPLOY

         15. Was that for me? Lol I was mocking RCD..

         16. Maybe standup is next for me

         17. ^Says the guy using a computer or I phone made by foreigners.
             Theyre cheaper, more educated, work harder.
             My advice to you is out work them, acquire an advanced trade, and prosper. Complaining on a computer solves nothing.

         18. Friendly fire. My bad.

         19. Your argument makes sense if you believe in economics without ethics. Of course, if you really want that then why not go whole hog and bring back Stalinism or full-on slavery.

         20. No douchebag, I am not. I am, however, pretty confident I will lose my job eventually to an h1-B or automation.
             If being meek or subservient equals superiority in your mind, then I dont know what to tell you. Do you work for one of those firms that import these people? Is that why you extol their “virtues”?

         21. No its not. Please sit down.

         22. Certain fields of engineering aren’t that great and spotty across the nation. Others are in deficit.

         23. You are sitting on a computer made by asian sweatshop labor that replaced an American for a cheaper price.
             You participate in globalism as much as the next guy.

         24. No.I believe in self determinism. None of these people would be complaining if they acquired a rare trade and got rich from it.
             My whole argument is to acquire a rare trade so you can immune yourself from most problems ROK members talk about.

         25. Doctor and physicist don’t apply to the discussion since they aren’t typical corporate jobs that are usually outsourced.
             I know plenty of unemployed engineers though, as many of them are being replaced with cheaper Asian slave labor. Mechanical and electrical engineers are two fields that have been especially hard hit. American software programmers often suffer similar fates.
             I also have to laugh at Asian education being superior. Asian schooling treats kids like automatons who only exist to absorb “facts.” True critical thinking is not something most Asians are good at, though Westerners aren’t much better in that regard due to our own schooling problems.

         26. Most people don’t have the intelligence required to acquire rare trades, so they don’t have any defense against the predations of sociopathic mega rich. If you’re ok with that, then you believe in economics without ethics. Also, there is a strict limit to how much any one human can make doing honest work due to constraints on time, money and energy. The mega rich .0001% are all sociopaths who exploited and dehumanized people to make their fortunes.
             Sensible paleoconservative-style economic regulations exist to prevent the emergence of an owner class that produces nothing of value while enslaving everyone else. Paleo-cons realized that capitalism and communism both lead to the same destination but through different paths.

         27. “You are sitting on a computer made by asian sweatshop labor that replaced an American for a cheaper price.
             You participate in globalism as much as the next guy.”
             Most people don’t have real consumer choice anymore since the world’s resources are all controlled by a few people. What you are saying is like blaming somebody for supporting robbery because they gave their money to a mugger.

         28. People love goods at the lowest price. There’s very little laymen like us can do to reverse globalism and NAFTA.
             I’m saying what you can do is acquire comfort and security in your life of either opening your own business or acquiring a STEM degree. They are much harder careers to outsource.

         29. STEM: Science, Technology, Engineering, Medicine. Doctors fall under medicine. Physicists fall under Science.
             Japanese students are taught Thermodynamics in 6th grade; whereas in America we are taught basic geometry.
             Superior teaching, superior work ethic = superior workers.

         30. Engineers cross train; a mechanical engineer can occupy an aerospace engineering position. A hydraulics engineer is qualified to occupy a civil engineering position.
             If an engineer is unemployed, its because he refuses to relocate [Laid off petroleum engineers in Texas refuse to move to North Dakota; it happens alot]…. Or he got fired.

         31. Anyone who got into the 1% by Ponzi scheme or government intervention, I loathe tremendously just as much as you do.
             Anyone who got into the 1% by hard work and ingenuity, I seek to emulate.

         32. You’re a troll and probably a miserable human being..the only hater in the entire comment section thus far. Congrats clown.

         33. This

         34. Not really. Well yes.. that’s the end result. The actual problem is the immigration laws.. These people come in on H1B and because of that they’re slave to the firms that brought them over. If they leave the company they won’t be able to work (and actually compete based on their skills). These fuckers (the H1B sponsors) make a shit load on the backs of these poor schmucks. So yeah, it’s the government but not in the way you might think at a first glance.

         35. Whenever I have a real question concerning real opportunity or real money, I go to who has the skills and knowledge. Period.

         36. I don’t believe most people don’t have the intelligence to be self-employed. Yes some people are good at nothing, but most people are good at something. Even if it’s not a “rare trade”, people can still make a living on their talents. They just won’t achieve “rare” levels of wealth

         37. You are correct Tony. The argument for the effect of HB1 visas is one based on global competitiveness, but there is a component that is used by the US Chamber of Commerce to suppress wages for their silicon valley donors.
             While you are correct, there is just something slimy about the position you’re taking, and while there are ugly truths we must all accept, we used to teach ethics in business schools alongside business practices.
             This speaks larger to the concept of globalism versus nationalism. If globalism marches on unchecked, then your position will be a truth we cannot avoid. Eventually at some point all wages will be suppressed as the global elites control all markets and wages and determine the final economic conditions regardless of your vote or sovereignty. 80 hours a week for chicken scratch will become the norm.

         38. I understand everyone’s criticisms League… Emotionally, I agree with cheese and RDC. Intellectually, I made peace with the grim reality that the easy path to the middle class is never coming back. You literally have to outwork and outsmart millions of 3rd world citizens ready to take your livelihood. Making excuses or relying on our leaders won’t change this.

         39. That’s once reason to get in to goverment contracting if you have a STEM degree. You need a clearance, and that is mostly limited to US citizens.

         40. Oh I totally agree on the relocation thing being the main issue in engineering. Obviously a lot of guys get mechanical degrees then refocus from there. I know of many. The mechanical guys who don’t branch out often end up in supervisory/management jobs that suck, the ones that pick up additional skills, usually make it somewhere.

         41. Actually yes. Globalism is a cancer. The cure is economic autarky. Otherwise public outrage will destroy what’s left of the so-called free market and usher in a state owned economy that promises full employment even if a lot of the jobs are makework

         42. If they have superior education, why do they work 80 hours a week? Shouldnt they be able to finish projects in less time than Americans due to their superior intellects?

         43. Are they on h1B visas? Can we bring drs. over on these?Just curious

         44. The bulk of Dubai was built in less than 10 years, mainly by Asiatic workers [Indians and Phillipinos]
             Wollman rink [an outdoor rink] in Central Park took 6+ years to build. I would’ve taken much longer had Trump not saved the project.
             I’ll let you be the judge.

   2. Pretty certain you nailed it there in last sentence.

      1. Thanks G, I feel my words got misunderstood with alot of the crowd.

   3. You forgot about making the right friends or having the right parents. Tons of kids get jobs with useless degrees through network.
      Stem doesn’t guarentee anything if you aren’t involved (project teams), have a gpa below 3.0, nor seek out internships.

      1. Nepotism is an eternal part of human emotion. All of us want to hook up the ones we love.
         My suggestion to success is grim, but it makes peace with a world of diminishing return value.

   4. That’s been the plan for a while. You see, “we need to transition to a KNOWLEDGE economy.” Or so the globalist cucks have been saying. That’s retarded, though. There are like 50 million Americans with an IQ under 85. That’s just the reality of IQ distribution. The attitude that The Economist and The Wall Street Journal have towards Americans of average of below average intelligence is “fuck them because they weren’t born smart enough to be engineers.” Then they proceed to lobby for open borders because “they do the jobs that Americans won’t do.” Oh, the jobs that Americans won’t do? It turns out Americans want those jobs. “Well, those jobs aren’t coming back. People need to adapt.”

      1. I 100% disagree with NAFTA, the anti business climate, and the self defeating educational system. No doubt.

6. “He understood that if a century later we had a workforce in which 70% of Americans despised their jobs, there would be a much greater need for time off to allow for spiritual healing and contemplative perspective.”
   Complains about the job they have…doesn’t acquire any skills to make them employable in a better job or make a side-business. It’s the American way!
   “Countries that implement shorter work weeks and higher wages consistently rank among the most content populations in the world.”
   Also most of those countries are way more white, homogeneous, safe, clean, and prosperous than America has become. Just keep that in mind whenever looking at silly statistics like “happiness”. It would be like looking at American crime but not looking at crime divided by race, it is extremely unfair and intellectually dishonest.
   I have some respect for people who choose not to work to support the gov’t and feminism though. Although you will probably get caught in a rut, it at least has some purpose.
   Also the Purge movie was a POS, was so bad I didn’t see the second one. Such a good idea for a movie that is a poorly executed mess with shitty dialogue, unrealistic plot, no background information, and horrible acting.

   1. Actually, the average US wage in 1950 was $3300. That equals around $33,000 in 2015 dollars. Maybe that’s why the American Dream back then was to own a small home with 1 bathroom, maybe a 1 car garage and a washing machine so you didn’t have to go to the coin-o-matic down the street (dryer was a rope tied from window to tree)

   2. Eurzone is a hellhole and crime? You mean those boys that grew without a father

7. Black Friday has nothing to do with pure capitalism its more crony capitalism combined with a welfare state. Our crap society has nothing to do with a fight between capitalism and communism. A lot of the bullshit that infests our society and money have more to do with hypermoralistic social justice. You are allowed to do this but you cant do that. If you shop here you support fascism. You must celebrate Breast Cancer Awareness Month otherwise you support Breast Cancer. None of this is enforced by law. We enforce ethics by law (which goes against the concept of ethics), etc. But you are correct about one thing…..we do not like the idea of being an entrepreneur….we value more suffering and whether we belong to an aggrieved race, religion, gender….
   The only thing 80% unemployment will solve is the date a Revolution will occur against our government.
   Odd nothing of this sort happens in a more free Switzerland and less free Singapore.

8. Not sure if your article is satire or if you really believe this?
   From what I recall reading, if the unemployment rate gets up to 20-25% for too long (we are there now in the US), you see civil disobedience(and we have seen this).
   26%+ for too long usually leads to a violent revolution- do you really look forward to this? How bad would it be if we ever got to a UE rate of 75%??

   1. The title is satire and those numbers are not literal, hence the joke about spitting coffee. I do believe that less menial jobs means more people forced to capitalize on skills. When it becomes too easy to survive by being “given jobs”, we have a society like this one now, which most sane people can agree is broken.

      1. Ok, well then I despise you less now ha

         1. Yes its just a hook meant to grab the readers attention. Am I still the worst writer in the history of the site good sir?

         2. Youre up there buddy

         3. *Down there
            Apparently you’re not too bright either. Dummy.

9. “labeled left of Bolshevik”
   Interesting choice of words, considering the incredible Jewish over-representation within our American establishment (Government, Media, Hollywood, Leftist Academia, Federal Reserve, Big Banks, Feminism, Abortion Clinics/Doctors etc.).
   I’ve long said that when our opponents label us and our ideas as “Hitler”, “fascist”, or “racist”, we should hit back by calling them “Bolsheviks”; and of course point out in vivid detail that they are PERSONALLY responsible for the brutal murder of millions of White Russian Christian Nationals.

   1. I guess it wouldn’t be a conversation about money without someone coming in and blaming the Jews for everything. Now this conspiracy nut wants to derail the conversation about jobs into a conversation of semantics and word salad. Did the Jews commit Sandy Hook too? Better yet, did the Holocaust occur?

      1. I didn’t derail or attempt to derail anything. The comments section of ROK is often a free-flow of ideas and quirky comments, often unrelated to the article at hand. As for the article, I read it and enjoyed it – I always enjoy different perspectives on things.
         Good day.

         1. I think I misrepresented your comments. Friendly fire – my bad.

      2. 1. Possibly but there is no definitive information to prove they did. Don’t know what really happened but I do know no COD player with no real training is going to hit a credited twenty seven occasionally moving targets (esp small children) with a semi auto rifle in an enclosed room(s) in the time period specified for the murders. I might buy everything up to 09:35 at the school but not long after.
         Wiki:
         Shortly after 9:35 a.m., using his mother’s Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle,[29][30][31] Lanza shot his way through a glass panel next to the locked front entrance doors of the school.
         The police heard the final shot at 9:40:03 a.m; they believe that it was Lanza shooting himself in the lower rear portion of his head with the Glock 20SF in classroom 10.
         9:39:00 am First Newtown police arrives behind SHES.
         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
         Five minutes three seconds at the most from start to finish. One untrained guy did this? Twenty seven victims and he was only firing fifteen shots a magazine and reloading prematurely? Come on.
         2. Do I believe people died as the result of being Khazarian or worshiping Judasim? Yes. Do I believe the official story? About as much as I believe Kennedy was struck my Oswald alone and as much as 19 hijackers alone took down WTC 1&2, the Pentagon, crashed Ft 93 and somehow “fire” brought down bldg 7.
         “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
         -Goebbels
         https://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/holocaust-or-holohoax-21-amazing-facts/

      3. (Sigh) The thing I hate about the term “Jew” that is applies to both a spiritual faith as well as an ethnicity.
         .
         A small band of atheist assholes who happen to be ethnically Jewish create something terrible, and before you know it, ALL Jews are under attack; it’s sickening.
         .
         The Holocaust (20th Century Inquisition) DID happen; but Sandy Hook was a cruel hoax.

10. “Holland, with its 29 hour work week… its libertarian system of small government and emphasis on personal freedom goes hand in hand with a shorter workweek.”
    Yes, about 3/4th of women and 1/4th of the men work part-time. However, The Netherlands (Holland constitutes only the two western provinces, what confusion), where I live, certainly has no libertarian system. Hell no! Our government is as socialist and large as can be (outranked only by Sweden perhaps), and therefore taxes are high (income + value added easily adds up to 50-60%), and rules and regulations in every sphere of life abound. To define ‘libertarian’ (a good friend of mine is one of the key figures of organized libertarianism in ‘Holland’ so I happen to know all about it) means a government that only does what the people themselves cannot easily do such as law, police, courts, defense and perhaps some infrastructure and diplomacy. The Dutch government on top of these basic government duties also arranges/regulates social welfare (unemployment benefits, pension, etc etc), alimony, health care, schooling, housing, propaganda (public television/radio/internet), children’s playgrounds, kindergarten, banking, market regulations (cartels, telecom, etc), energy, sports, culture, public art, ad infinitum; the list is literally endless. Fairy tales. Liberal (‘anything goes’ philosophy) the Dutch government is, most certainly not libertarian!!!

    1. Interesting perspective. Thanks for your personalized reply. Having been there I loved the personal freedom aspect, essentially the decriminalization of victimless crime, but yes some locals did tell me about the 50% tax rate. That does not sound fun. However it didn’t appear that your government was nearly as intrusive into its citizens lives as ours is outside of social programs. People are not going to prison and worked for 23 cents an hour for smoking a little weed or having paid consensual sex. People are not dying in wars of greed. People are not working themselves to death for pennies or going into crippling student loan debt.

    2. School, propaganda, and Kindergarten are the same

11. There’s much validity in these arguments. Pure capitalism makes people work for an abstraction (money) that feeds their need to have a “status” in society through the amount of things they own, until the person ends up becoming an abstract function of the amount of things that he or she owns. The whole system is predicated on the principle of insuring the greatest possible dissatisfaction and discontent in the average person’s life and this is precisely what advertising has always done, especially with women and their appearance as witnessed by the plethora of ads for skin and hair products which has made the average woman neurotic and narcissistic by the age of 20.
    Capitalism in its brutal form is based upon using and abusing people to the nth degree. People are reduced to the two immutable categories of either consumers and employees and both are locked into the misery of striving to work more hours to buy more stuff so they feel like they’re people who have a certain status that the systems says they have by owing x y and z. This is the awful truth of this system which will eventually lay waste the entire planet and for what? A pile of crap that the people would never have needed in the first place if we actually taught them to develop themselves and have values that can’t be bought or sold in the marketplace.
    I must admit in my younger days I had a degree of sympathy for the communist economic (not social) model as centrally planned economies are more frugal and less wasteful as they tend to produce what’s only needed for the people. In some ways communism economies would be much more environmental friendly in the long term, in comparison to the huge amount of natural resources that capitalist economies use to produce goods that are never even used and are discarded. How can any system justify such profligate waste on such an industrial scale?
    Why need to ask ourselves why is there a need for us to work anymore. What actual value does our work really add to the world. If by driving to work to do a job that can be done by a robot, is not then my “expenditure” entirely negative upon the greater good of society and the environment?
    The key question to address will be money and the substitution of this measure of value for something more meaningful in the future. I’d imagine in about 50 years we’ll be using some abstract measure of value based on perhaps a person’s social and environment contribution to the world they live in. The other question will be how address what the millions of people are going to do with their time (as it won’t be free time in the way we mean it) once there’s a system that allows them to procure the items they still need to have. Surely, it wouldn’t be acceptable to have people just opt out and do nothing with their existence.

    1. Love the first paragraph. I like how most of your comments resonate with me.
       The communistic model – as I have often noted as my conviction – does not work because of the size of the society. Who has the mental capacity to perfectly plan the lives of hundreds millions of people? And besides, who says that all these people want to be part of that economy? What if they want to do something else with their lives.
       No, communism is not a solution. It is another tyranny and in my eyes, it is even worse than capitalism. But as we Western thinkers often do, we miss the forest for trees, if that is an applicable metaphor. We wonder which global system is the best to rule all people. We never stop to wonder whether we need a system to rule all people. Or whether it needs to be global. How about clans with a limited number of people that are self-sustaining?

       Surely, it wouldn’t be acceptable to have people just opt out and do nothing with their existence.

       Well, that is pretty much impossible anyway. Nobody can ever do ‘nothing’. In the least, they are mirthfully decomposing.

       1. Well, unfortunately with the way the global population is growing we’re going to have to have some type of system to organize our economic and social arrangements, but, as you hint we don’t necessarily need this system to “rule us”.
          I think what you mention about local clans is interesting, why do we always arrogantly think that the same global system should apply without exception to every human being on the planet? When you think about the natural diversity of people on the planet in the first place, this seems ridiculously simplistic and short-sighted. The problem with this system is that it’s entirely lop-sided in that it only accounts for people in an abstract economic sense and it doesn’t comprehend people in a cultural and social way which makes up the definition of what people essentially are. This is precisely why the European Union has failed, as it tried in vain to create an economic system that would unite all the different races and cultures of Europe through an economic and monetary value in the Euro and it failed miserably in this attempt.
          It’s possible that self-sustaining communities do actually work. There’s one for example in the very far north of Scotland that has worked extremely well for about the last 30 years. People work in a communal way on the land and with the sea, they’ve small environmentally friendly business that have done very well. So, yes, these ideas can work.

          1. Exactly. Imagine little tribes. Inside these tribes, work can be organized, but people also know each other, so they can actually empathize and make sure that people get to do the jobs that most fit their personality. In such a community, it actually makes sense to come together and vote on something. To have discussions on topics where everybody has a voice and can bring up arguments. The system of representatives in our society mimics this, but it is really quite insufficient.
             Have you seen the documentary ‘Tribe’ by Bruce Parry? He visits indigenous tribes all around the world, some of which hunt together as a group and then share the result. Truly amazing and it gave me quite some cognitive dissonance as the convinced capitalist / Objectivist I used to be.

          2. I think true communities work by the idea of the common good. There are islands off the Scottish coast that work, more or less this way, there’s not even any police force for example. Why would you need them when you know everyone on the Island.
             There’s another island called Tory off the coast of Donegal in Ireland where there’s a “King” who makes all the decisions on a daily basis for the community. I was there once, very remote and isolated, no police are anything like that- and people just come together and help out as needs arise beyond any economic reward or gain.
             No, I didn’t see that documentary. I must look it up.

          3. Exactly. Small communities allow for empathy and intuition and however esoteric that sounds, I think this shit simply works.
             Yes, you must.

          4. Never heard of this island, but that is fascinating. I’d love to see that place. You learn something new every day.

          5. It’s a tiny little place. They speak mostly Gaelic Irish. It’s beautiful in the summer. Wild in the winter, like all the Islands around Ireland and Scotland.

       2. If you’re talking about the old Soviet block, then maybe, just maybe, it was divine intervention that brought it down. When a state murders millions of faithful laypeople and hundreds of thousands of clergy, the Almighty won’t take it lying down. Think about it. Year after year of bad harvests in a Soviet Union that used to export food pre-revolution. Sky high infant mortality in a nation with free pre and post natal care. You can find plenty of examples in the Bible comparable to the Soviet Union’s fate.

          1. Who knows, maybe. The spiritual realm surely has some powers.

       3. The Ten Commandments is simple enough form of government, no?

          1. Morals are only necessary for large societies where people need to keep reminding themselves what their chief demon (Jesus) or their government wants them to do to be ‘good citizens’. In smaller communities, I think a lot of things just never become problems because of empathy, understanding, intuition.

    2. Brilliant. Look out for Bitcoin, which has the potential to change currency as we know it.

    3. Pure capitalism doesn’t make people do anything.
       If people want to waste their lives trying to one-up each other on who has the biggest house, the fanciest garden, the nicest car, that’s their own choice.
       No one is forcing anybody to watch TV or or buy the latest things.
       The masses have no one to blame for that but themselves.
       Communism or capitalist, you can’t just avoid having to work to exist.

       1. Good old ‘no one is forcing you’. Then again, there ARE forces that make you do stuff that really is a waste of your personality type or whatever. As you say, one needs to eat. Alas, the global system of capitalism does not allow any fine-tuning in this regard in an individual manner.
          If you had small communities, say, there could be some nutjob who is really no use in much of any work, but is a good philosopher and musician. In capitalism, nobody would pay that person, but the people in the tribe may appreciate him for being a good conversationalist and friend and maybe lover and he would have a place in there, if one of a rather poor existence.

          1. What are those forces?
             And why are capitalism and small communities opposites?
             With regards to your artist character, Socrates was a soldier before he became a philosopher.

          2. Well, the simple need to sustain your life, possibly social pressure to keep working and functioning. I get that no one is putting a gun to your head and saying ‘Work’, but that is a moral debate I am not interested in. I am seeing it from the perspective of the individual and that perspective can look rather grim at times. Sure, you may say ‘life is hard’. I say: It is, but if it can become better, why insist on the harder way?
             They are not opposites. What makes you say that? But I did not make my point clear enough, I see that. I was meaning to say ‘little socialistic communities’.
             Funny that you mention Socrates. May be true, but I actually did not consciously think of him when I wrote that comment. It was just a general idea. Some people just are not productive in the classical sense. Artists. He could also be a musician.

       2. It’s not that type of force we’re talking about. It’s more subtle and oblique. In America it’s especially based on the idea of being a “success” and of “living the dream” because if you don’t, you’re somehow not a good, respectable American citizen unless you’ve the detached house in the burbs with the two cars etc.
          In Europe, at least we don’t have that fucking “mood music” being piped through our heads like that crap saccharine tune you hear in American malls, universities, dinner tables etc. Remember you must be a success…over and over again.

    4. Capitalism in its pure form is the organic form the market takes when free and with secure property rights. It is not an organized system of oppression but groups acting to incentives.
       Of course our current “free” market is distorted by keynsian economics and fractional reserve banking causing malinvestment and so on and so forth

       1. I think that most of these economic theories are largely bullshit anyway. In the end, the mere psychological effect of a positive or negative prediction will far outweigh any ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ model.
          Something as complex as economy always needs some kind of model of thought. And fully buying into one of them is akin to religion. Depending on the question that is to be answered, one may use one or another model, but how much do we really know?
          I used to talk to an unemployed guy who had been big on the stock market. He spent basically 20 years of his life doing almost nothing but reading economic news and understanding economy and making predictions. 20 years. And he told me that he still does not understand it all and that there is no fucking way you can just ‘teach’ this to somebody quickly.

          1. The mistake is in assuming that people are entirely rational.

          2. Is this comment directed at me or did you mean to post it to someone else? I do not see how it relates to my comment.

          3. Its the reason why markets cannot be truly predicted.

          4. Ah. I thought you were saying that I made that assumption. Yes, I agree. People are not rational and neither should they be. That ignores too many aspects of reality. Predicting the markets is a little akin to magic. Maybe you can do it with the help of demons.

          5. I think the genius of the austrian school at least is that they are more about common sense and are generally more accurate than about somehow using rational mathematical models to predict human behavior and all the other jargon.

       2. Distorted is a mild way to describe the mayhem that unfettered capitalism caused recently around the globe. Besides, capitalism was not always about the markets as you state, in it’s original form it was much more modest and it encouraged people to create products people needed and it encouraged them to save rather than spend and consume everything they could get on borrowed money.

          1. And you know that what encouraged saving? Its the stability of the currency backed by the gold standard that does not lose its value to inflation hence encouraging saving.

          2. Ever since they got rid the gold standard legal tender has essentially become valueless. There’s no reference to any value that can be measured anymore. It surprises me that money haven’t rebelled against this absurdity. Perhaps the inner sheep goes too, too deep.

          3. That’s why bitcoin is taking off. And countries like Russia and China is exiting the US dollar as well as backing their currencies with gold.

          4. Didn’t the guy who invented get arrested in Australia in the last week or so?

          5. He revealed himself and exposed himself to danger. However regardless bitcoin due to its decentralized nature will still live on.

    5. That’s a Pyramid scheme NOT capitalism

       1. Not much of a difference is there?

    6. Can we separate capitalism from consumerism, are they mutually interlocked to begin with?
       One can argue that goods and services have always been around, but only became a measure of status and destructive once marketing became sophisticated and began shaming people for not owning “things”.
       I argue that capitalism was the driving force of technological advances that communist economic models could not achieve from the lack of competitive forces in the market.
       Perhaps if we worked acquiring wealth to achieve experiences rather than material goods that end up in the attic after 3 years we could dash the notion of consumerism. Our productive hours working would be used for travel, education, certifications that allow for a more fluid and dynamic society.
       Perhaps if we returned to the notion of manufacturing goods that don’t have built in expiration dates in their construction, or designed products to retain longevity by ease of home repair and replaceable parts?
       Maybe we can reject the idea of forced scarcity, as an example: people pay 1000s of dollars for diamonds that proclaim to be rare while there are 100s of warehouses filled to the roof with them.
       When it comes to capitalism, I am not ready to throw out the baby with the bathwater so to speak.

       1. Historically, capitalism and consumerism were not interlocked. However, in the 1970s with the advent of the credit card people were given money way in excess of their means. This went on and on, until we had our recent crash which was caused by “reckless banking” which equates to giving shit loads of cash to people who often never even had a steady job so they could buy commodities that would then simulate production and keep the whole thing going around.
          The only problems were (1) Most of the production was done off shore which meant the extra jobs and production revenues stayed out of the primary economy (2) Often the people buying the commodities had small salaries and soon got into debt. Additionally these factors give birth to the model of “globalization” and the maximization of profits to the detriment of values outside of economics. This has had disastrous consequences as it means Nation States have difficultly controlling not only their own fiscal and monetary policies, but, even the capacity of a Nation like Greece to govern its own social and political policies is greatly impaired when your economy is tied into an unregulated globalized system of trade and finance.
          I don’t see how we can return to this model of capitalism as it’s incurably destructive and noxious in its effects on society, the environment, and values like national patriotism. Global capitalism must die as it’s a pure force of evil that has been instigated by a few for a few . However, a return to the modest, national conservative economy policies of pre-mass consumerism and globalization could be a legitimate way for nations to regain their sovereignty once more.
          I differ from you in that I’m willing to certainly throw this baby and bathwater out in unison!

    7. “How can any system justify such profligate waste on such an industrial scale?”
       Simple. Because excess and abundance are what facilitate rapid growth and development. Sustainability and frugality facilitate stagnation, which over a period of time becomes regression.
       If you don’t have an excess of resources or production, if you are only producing to service your needs, how exactly do you expect to innovate and create new?
       Sustainability is also more of a limiting belief than it is reality. There may be finite resources on Earth, but as far as we are aware there is infinite resources available in space. Our focus should not be on sustainability, inevitable stagnation and then collapse. Our focus should be on expanding beyond, accessing new resources and continued prosperity.

       1. I was speaking in a philosophical manner. Besides, I don’t think that abundance causes economic growth, in fact, it’s the opposite. A scarcity of a given commodity, like houses in a given area, causes demand and prices to rise in classic Keynesian manner.
          High value, low supply + high demand = High Growth. You don’t begin by applying the principle of pure abundance to what you’re producing. Who wants to buy Expat Big Bang chocolate bar in a market already saturated? You don’t crack an existing market by flooding it.

12. “when in reality they frequently took the easy way out to varying degrees.”
    This is wrong on so many levels. You probably think that everyone is born as blank slates and that everyone has equal genetic capability (intelligence) to get the degrees such as engineering degrees etc.
    This is not true, most people do not have the intelligence required to complete training to become as an example a civil engineer, among white people we have more of the higher IQ individuals required to get these degrees, however it doesn’t mean that all can.
    So those with grunt hard-working jobs, whatever they are, might not just have taken the “easy way out”, but simply not have had the capability to do anything else.
    This is the real unfairness of the world, different genetic potential for intelligence (which is heritable). No-one can seriously argue that some low-paid jobs like whatever, farm worker etc is NOT hard work…it is.

    1. Bleeding heart or not, everyone is good at something. You don’t need an engineering degree to achieve financial freedom. Seriously? I have friends with an IQ of around 75 who’ve done amazing construction work with their bare hands, and who could make six figures a year doing it freelance. But notwithstanding dirty hand jobs, we now live in a world where it is easier than ever to make money doing something you love digitally.

       1. Just like you don’t need a psychology degree to understand people. Just go out and observe or talk to people. Even if you’re wrong, at least you won’t pay four figures for your mistakes.

       2. It’s true to some extent. But you have to admit that most high-paying jobs require a measure of intelligence. At least the jobs with seriously high wages.

13. So you’re saying people should work less and get more? Sounds like socialism to me. You get paid what you’re worth; he who does not work does not eat.
    You should also look into the unintended consequences of government mandated work week and overtime laws. Those are one reason people have to get 2 or 3 jobs they suck at as opposed to one job in which they can become proficient.

    1. “he who does not work does not eat.”
       Once again, this is absolute nonsense. Not when we’re talking “work” the way you interpret the word, anyway. I’m not telling people NOT TO WORK. I’m telling them they’d better prepare to capitalize on something they’re good at because their job may not exist in 5 years. It’s been proven six ways from Sunday that it’s possible to be financially independent and not “work” a day in your life. How many examples do you need?

       1. I’m not debating that low skilled workers need to adapt. You’re spot on there. As a warning for individuals, this is a good article.
          However, in the second half of your article you start bringing up matters relating to the economic system as a whole: 12 weeks paid vacation, 29 hour work weeks, and mandated higher wages. If you’re advocating for these, then you are in fact advocating for socialism.
          When you compare the United States to countries such as the Netherlands, keep in mind that part of the reason for their high wages and happiness is that they are still relatively racially homogeneous (The Netherlands is 78% Dutch).

          1. Thanks for the compliments on the article.
             I disagree that I’m advocating socialism. I don’t like the tax bracket in a place like Holland, but I do like the hours and the living wages. If that’s socialism, so be it, but I feel our government is so far to the right that centrists look like socialists. Who decided that 40 hours (the actual number is up around 45 no) was the standard workweek? What genius decided we didn’t need to raise the minimum wage for 9 years while the cost of living and inflation skyrocketed? We do need some oversight – $15,000 a year is the minimum wage for a full-time employee. That’s a disgrace. With no oversight, corporations would pay people zero if they could. We already see this with unpaid internships. They’d just bribe them with great “benefits” packages but take away hard cash for labor.
             What has happened is the left (Hillary, Obama and other politicians {not talking SJW’s, who are in essence communists}) moved to the 50 yard line and the right (the entire Republican field minus Rand Paul) is in the end-zone. This makes me, a moderate, look like a socialist. These people want people in jail for smoking pot and want a Christian theocracy.

          2. When you ask, “Who decided that 40 hours was the standard work week?”, you’re on your way to an epiphany. It was the government that decided instead of people making their own decisions.
             The labels of left and right are unimportant if you’re interested in human prosperity. The only important distinction is government control vs control by individuals. Individuals know what is best for themselves, not someone in a government office.
             If you think corporations have too much power, look closer. There are laws that make it possible.

    2. You’re right Tim. This fucking hack is just repackaging socialism for a new generation of idiots.

       1. Good luck to you when your brick and mortar job no longer exists, John Doe. When that time comes let this hack know if a simple recommendation to hone your skillset was ill advised. But considering I’m speaking Greek to you perhaps you don’t have a skillset to monetize on, so I understand your frustration.

14. Having more time for creativity ,adventure and pursuing your dreams is the way to go. Hopefully automation will achieve that.
    But given the nature of human evil pitfalls will still exist.

15. Makes me think about the next time a big corporation is about how fail. Let it fail. Like if GM failed, at least the silver lining is, maybe the workers themselves could take it upon themselves to take over and create something better on their own.

16. Well, since the Progressives of Wilson, and the extension of his policies by Hoover, FDR, and especially modern Presidents such as GW and O, Free Market Capitalism hasn’t existed. If we held central government to its constitutional limitations, we probably wouldn’t have people in menial jobs, because government serves to coddle the inefficient, lazy, and weak.

17. I think many in the manosphere need to realize that capitalism and consumerism are the cause of many modern economic and cultural problems.
    The paleocon-style policies of guys like Teddy Roosevelt offered a solution long ago.

    1. Pyramid scheme NOT Capitalism

    2. “.. realize that capitalism and consumerism are the cause of many modern economic and cultural problems.”
       Said every socialist always.

18. Sorry but economically Netherlands is a mess, our current economy is the result Corporate oligarchy plus Big Government

19. I don’t know about other places but in the United States we don’t have capitalism anymore, but we don’t have socialism either. What I think we have is Fascism.

    1. Fascism is a form of socialism

       1. No. Fascism is rooted in the rejection of the “values” of the French Revolution, and it leans right.

          1. Yes, our government is an off the rail right wing machine violating rights and liberties. Fascism indeed. Yet our universities and media (except Fox) are so far left with worthless SJW’s who consider themselves revolutionaries it’s maddening for the critical thinker with contempt for both sides.

          2. You are right. The SJW are very vocal, but watch the vid I posted above. They have no saying in anything otherwise we wouldn’t have 1% owning 40% of the total wealth. It’s completely fucked up. The SJWs only impact people like us, while the super rich are laughing their ass off at us the peasants (lefties, righties doesn’t matter).

20. Well I never thought about it that way. The problem is we need money to survive in society and we are force fed consumerism. It’s even illegal to go live off the land and own nothing. Anyways I’ve been saying this for years. Money is stupid. Before automated manufacturing it was necessary and up until the last 70 years has worked; however, it no longer does. The financial sector sees the most money, corruption, and ultimately destruction of our infrastructure. Doctors, engineers, builders, farmers, etc are necessary to sustain society. Money is not a motivator. It is the things you buy with it. It has grown so corrupt there is very little if not nothing in society that is not here because of money. Values change in order to sell. Women argue about feminism while they buy troves of beauty supplies.
    I believe the decline in American society is in direct correlation and can be tied to marketing propaganda. Including feminism which saw most losing 50% of their income over time when a bunch of new workers untrained in wage negotiations flooded the market. Now we can all live in denial, but the subconscious mind which can make millions of calculations a second does not. It knows and the more you run from it the crazier you’ll get. Literally. The human mind doesn’t like wasting energy and it is blatantly obvious that the white picket fence is bullshit when nobody gets paid. In the next 30 years the U.S. will go bankrupt and all our stock will be useless if labor laws don’t change. Don’t for a second think that’s not what they want. If they can bankrupt the U.S. and keep the population docile they have the money to buy it when it’s up for sale. Then the U.S. will be the United States of slave workers. Where they can abolish labor laws, enslave you to the corporations at gun point and force you to produce for your life. Feminists will just be burned alive as corporations quell any rebelling. So that said we could just abolish money, but go to work. You get a provisions card based on whatever work tier your on and everyone gets access to their basic needs. Nobody needs to work 80 hr weeks for barely enough to pay for rent and food and the option to choose which utility you plan on paying this month. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
    I will even go as far as to say ISIS, the drug trade and most of the criminal underworld wouldn’t exist without money and the greed it causes.

21. We’re just impurities when it comes to money/income. Watch this video and you’ll see why. At one point it mentions the americans are against wealth redistribution. I guess, the main reason is everybody pretty much are barely scraping by…
    

22. The only question I have is who is going to pay for this mass leisure time of 70%+ of the population? I assume that the remaining 30% will be taxed at 99% of their income making them effectively slaves?

23. Kings-
    None of my comments meant to condescend. The only power laymen like us have against the tide of globalism is to gain a STEM career or open a business and [eventually] marry well.
    Cheeseburger and RDC: nothing I said was personal. If we met in real life, we’d fight it out, shake hands, then find the closest bar for rounds of whiskey.

    1. Everything you say is pretty much on point except saying we do not have enough STEM grads…thats mainstream media hogwash

24. The numbers in the article are actually right, if you think about it. I’ve said this before but if we don’t collapse (which I think we will), on thing will happen.. Forget about the super rich and let’s focus on the rest of us. In 50-100 years we will have become super technological society. I mean there’s no question where this is all going.
    So 10% will make most of the money. These are the people that will maintain and run the systems/factories etc.. There will be a thin service layer too… These 10% will be so efficient that will produce 100% of the wealth. The rest of 90%, the unskilled will be paid to stay at home. Yes paid. Of course minimum payment so they don’t take it to the streets. They will live pretty comfortably but they won’t be able to achieve any of their dreams/aspirations etc. They’ll just vegetate in front of the TV or future VR, etc. That’s what we’re looking at I think…

    1. Unless massive change happens within the next few years, this is the only logical outcome, aside from total warfare. If the march of technology is indeed unstoppable, the only way for a society to move forward is as a massive welfare state.

25. 80% less employment? How about 90% less people! Fuck robots and technology. Robots suck for slavery. Give me a human slave any day of the week. You can’t beat or fuck a robot. The solution to our predicament is easy. 90% of you useless fuckers simply need to shuffle off this mortal coil. All of these problems would not exist if the throngs of common peasants were not around to cause them.

26. We’ve seen how well the black underclass has handled mass unemployment. If we kept them working on the land, that would have left our cities inhabitable for white people, used up blacks’ time for something useful and exhausted enough of their energy to keep them from causing mischief.

27. Hunter-gatherer cave men got all their food for the week in 17-19 hours, IIRC.

28. This article is as Utopian as the Leftists the author rightly attacks.
    “The result would be a more fulfilling life of purpose and a higher level of understanding
    Negative, Ghostrider.
    In any technological innovation, always assume the lowest common denominator as the result. TV was going to bring Shakespeare to the world. It became the Idiot Box. The Internet was going to be the world’s largest library. It became a cesspool of LOLcatz, trojans, and Facebook posts. Smartphones were going to make us smarter and more useful everywhere. They made an army of Millenial zombies quietly staring into their phones the way an opium addict stares at the wall.
    More free time + less responsibility = fatter, more useless people living on Mommy’s couch spending what little disposable income they have on pot, Cheetos, and Xbox points.
    Remember, the word Utopia was chosen by Sir Thomas More because it described a place that can never be. Utopia is Greek for “Nowhere”.

    1. The telephone was initially invented as an emergency communication service but immediately became co-opted for gossip.
       Capitalism doesn’t make us do stupid shit… We just do stupid shit.

    2. I recall reading about Andrew Carnegie, Scotsman by birth, who after making his fortune in America contributed alot of his money to build public libraries. He believed working men should get more leisure to be able to go to libraries and better themselves.

       1. Nowadays he gets chastised on all documentaries I’ve watched as an “evil elite hell bent on destroying the working man”.

    3. I agree with you 1000% and that was a great comment. Please understand I’m speaking to individuals though. Yes, the majority of a civil society will always be useless underachievers, but I’m trying to create a few more exceptions to the rule, and possibly wake up a few people on the fence. These are the few I’m talking to. Undoubtedly some people will rise to the occasion if the world of brick and mortar ever collapses, which seems inevitable at some point. It’s worth trying to save as many as possible from this sinking ship, understanding that most will drown. Natural selection will take of the weak.

       1. don’t you get that life’s necessities don’t pay for themselves? if we had 70 or 80% unemployment like you propose, how would all these unemployed people eat and pay rent? would you be in favor of expanding welfare benefits to all these people?
          I would love to be unemployed and focus on intellectual and spiritual pursuits my whole life. however, I don’t want to be homeless and starve to death, so I choose to work.

          1. Nah, you choose to work because you don’t have any skills to monetize on. Because you were lazy when you were young and just did what you were told. And if we’re going to call a spade a spade – the welfare queens are smarter than you. You get paid to slave, they get paid to stay home. Yes the ones gaming the system are contemptible, but you’re the fool getting taken for a ride. Then again you’re probably happy because you still have “honor”. But you don’t have freedom.

    4. Spot on

29. The tendency to compare America to European nations never ceases to annoy me. Holland is a nation of white people. In fact, the people of the Netherlands are not just white – they are Dutch, which is like being extra super white. They wash the outsides of the windows. They’ll get along fine no matter what they do. America is not Europe. White people are only two thirds of the US, but even those are not pure like the Dutch. If you must compare us to anyone, let it be Columbia or Brazil. Make it fair.

    1. Is this a covertly worded race card being played? What’s your point – not the white privilege deal again..Either way Holland is almost all white, the while South America is mostly brown. The United States is 63% white, so if you’re going to draw comparisons by race we are closer to EU than SA.

       1. Yes, Brazil may be inapposite. Argentina is a more fair comparison.

       2. USA is a race based state while Netherlands is an ethnic and homogeneous state.

30. Holland is a poor example. It is the most crowded country in Europe; they have higher wages and shorter work weeks because the taxes are high and kill any insentive to work; many Dutch have left for good as their leftist government has brought in 3rd world flotsam. Not to mention the weather is lousy. The women are cute, but completely not LTR material.

31. I am from The Netherlands. It is bogus what this article claims on Holland. We have a huge government, bigger now than it has ever been and we don’t have a 29 hour work week, but a normal 40 hour work week where the average employee has 25 holidays a year. Retirement age is set at 67 and that is going to rise in the future according to our government.

32. All of this is just impossible and questionably even desirable.

33. Jobs is just one side of the coin. The labor market is a market like any other, so the price of labor is determined by supply and demand. Employers = demand, population = supply. We have been increasing the supply for decades by importing foreigners. So supply goes up, wages go down, and unemployment goes up. We need to reverse that. And smart people consciously and subconsciously make choices about breeding based on the economy. Anybody with a brain these days would see something like Octomom and think, “how the hell is she gonna raise 8 kids by herself, how is she going to afford to live in a decent school district with one income, how is she gonna afford college, braces, etc.?” Dumb people don’t think about that shit.

    1. Every foreigner imported (just like every baby born) is also a consumer, so demand is also increased, not just supply.
       If we wanted to increase the price of labor, going back to a 1950s model where typically only the husband worked, would be a good way of doing it. It would have a side benefit of giving every married household free domestic labor (wife can now cook, clean, babysit)

       1. I agree with the second point but most not the first. Sure, immigrants indirectly create jobs by coming here and purchasing things. But they are not entrepreneurs. They don’t come here to bring jobs. They come to take jobs. And we already have too few jobs. There are like 40 million illegals in the US. They might have created some jobs by buying products. But did they create 40 million jobs? If not, then immigration is a net loss for America when it comes to employment.

          1. Actually, immigrants are entrepreneurs at a rate greater than the general population. A good book that discusses this, along with a lot of other common sense ideas is “The Millionaire Next Door”. It’s all about how the typical millionaire is a blue jeans wearing Toyota driving guy who puts his head down and works hard all his life–the Donald Trump flashy types are the exception. In the book he discusses how immigrants have the highest rate of entrepreneurship. Not only that, but they will work 100 hours a week at their business.
             I know a few Asian friends in the nail business–they work 6 days a week until 7 PM every day. To me, that seems like slavery, I don’t care how much money I am being paid. But they do it, day in and day out.
             http://www.fastcompany.com/3015616/the-shocking-stats-about-whos-really-starting-companies-in-america

          2. Perhaps LEGAL immigrants are more entrepreneurial. But both legal and illegal immigrants use more welfare than Natives. And when an immigrant uses welfare, it’s in some sense more egregious than when a native uses it because natives have at least been paying taxes all their lives. Immigrants who just got here haven’t been paying into the system.
             I understand that there are a lot of successful immigrants who open businesses and create jobs. We should try to import people like them WITHOUT importing tons of people from Mexico who just sort of migrate over here illegally for the benefits. In other words, our criteria for who is allowed to immigrate here should not be “lives within walking distance.” It should be “people whose immigration results in a net benefit overall for America.”
             http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

          3. “Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years. ”
             http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/
             And net immigration of Mexicans is *TO* Mexico, meaning more of them are entering Mexico from the US than vice versa.
             If one simply made the argument to be anti-immigrant based on racial purity or homogeneity reasons, I could accept it. I am a WASP myself. But I can’t stand these factual inaccuracies.

          4. They still use public schools and emergency rooms (which taxpayers foot the bill for if they can’t pay- if Jorge shows up with Ribar through his shoulder due to a construction accident, the hospital HAS to treat him) and they are eligible for WIC if they have anchor babies. In some states pregnant illegal imm. women can get WIC. They can even get SSI and TANF on behalf of their US born children. Even if the parents are here illegally.
             http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Native-Households#app

          5. Dude, I already provided data that said that illegals can get welfare *on behalf of their US born children*. I hope you’re sitting down for this one, because it’s a real shocker: There are loopholes in the welfare system. Technically, no illegal immigrant is on welfare. But there are a shitload of illegal immigrant HOUSEHOLDS that are on welfare. That’s because the anchor babies, through whom illegal immigrant parents obtain welfare, are legal US citizens.
             http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households
             http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Native-Households#app
             And even if more Mexicans leave than come here every year, that’s after we already got AT LEAST 11 million illegals from Mexico. That number is low because it’s based on Census data and illegal immigrants are unlikely to tell the truth to the Census, for obvious reasons. There is evidence based on remittances to Mexico, based on increases in requests for housing permits in immigrant enclaves, and based on the fact that many illegals admitted in other surveys to lying to the Census, that there were way more than 11 million illegals back in 2005.
             http://www.steinreport.com/BearStearnsStudy.pdf

       2. Consumer demand and productive supply is like Work/Play dichotomy. Play is the easy part. Everybody likes to play. It’s quick, easy, and fun. It’s the work part, that’s hard. The work part takes time, effort, and discipline. Likewise, everybody likes to consume. That’s the easy part. It’s the production side of the equation that is difficult to muster. Production for profit, takes an awful lot to manage. So addressing the issue of consumption, as the Left is apt to do, misses the point. It isn’t a chicken or the egg problem. Production MUST come before consumption. There’s no way around it.
          The question then is, will immigrants aid in increasing the overall productive capacity of the country?
          No.
          Set aside the fact that those immigrants who would become consumers, could just as easily be consumers in their own countries, most of these “consumers” are only able to have jobs because the companies here shift the overall cost of support of these “consumers” to the government, in the form of state subsidies. This may help the bottom line profit of international corporations, but it doesn’t hep the country overall, once you figure in taxes for that support, and the continued support necessary for the unemployed natives. Which everyone else has to pay for. So the immigrants’ benefit to the national economy is illusory. We have massive unemployment, importing people to increase the supply of labor won’t help.
          Again, immigration will help the bottom line of corporations who benefit from cheap labor, but the country as a whole loses out economically.
          And increasing the supply of labor, has nothing to do with simultaneously and equivalently increasing the demand for it.
          Though I will agree that getting women out of the workplace would also help the situation improve.

          1. The question then is, will immigrants aid in increasing the overall productive capacity of the country?
             No.

             If this were true then all immigration should be immediately and permanently banned.

          2. Given our present state of economic development (technological, rather than agrarian/early industrial), and massive social welfare obligations……Yes!!! We need economic and social reform to produce better trained workers, better paying jobs, and more children. Most of that has nothing to do with immigration, but immigration doesn’t help, in my estimation.
             I might also add, that one could equally make the case that Manifest Destiny could have gotten along well enough without 19th century immigration as well.

34. So where is the money to pay for that 80% unemployment going to come from? Your fallacial assumption is that when everything in life is provided for you you will become a spiritual and intellectual person. Reality of a welfare state shows you only become entitled and lazy.

    1. This comment nails it. In a capitalist society, you can’t have 80% of the people not working. Its just not sustainable. Technological unemployment is a mortal danger to capitalism, one which it has no hope of responding to. Mechanisation is driven by essential short term needs which create awful, long term consequences. If you want 80% unemployment combined with a high standard of living, you would need a resource based economy.

       1. yeah, but I do not believe technology will cause mass unemployment. for every person that gets fired due to a machine taking his job, people will be hired to build and fix those machines.

          1. The people fired will far outweigh the people hired to build/fix machines. Machines can easily be built to build other machines. You are assuming that for EVERY person fired that same person will be given a job repairing the machine that took his job. Nope.

          2. so i suppose if our society reached the point where we had machines to take care of our every need whenever we wanted, everyone would be out of a job and therefore broke and homeless.
             think about it. the more machines there are, the more machines that need to be fixed and serviced. and if we get a machine to do build the machines, who will build and fix THAT machine? and so on…

35. Ah, the first bad article I’ve come across on this site.
    Capitalism is good. It means free trade. None of us have ever experienced a fully capitalist system – instead, what we have masquerading as capitalism is actually corporatism, where large corporations can lobby governments to create rules impacting the marketplace that work in their favor, to the detriment of small businesses.
    Sure, European countries like Denmark look fine and dandy. People point to the ‘hey, free healthcare’, forgetting the fact that virtually all medical innovation comes from USA, the last capitalist refuge on Earth, while the tax funded ‘free’ healthcare everywhere else steadily declines in quality as each nation runs further into debt.
    It isn’t Capitalism that has destroyed morality and pushed consumerism, it’s Big Government and the Leftist agenda. The whole reason the United States of America was founded was so that great Americans like Benjamin Franklin could produce wealth without the parasitical British Monarchy sucking their blood. Capitalism is synonymous with Freedom. This article should be taken down.
    Your term ‘capitalist slavery’ is impossible without government intervention in the marketplace – which isn’t actually capitalism at all. The slavery you speak of is only possible when a Government takes a monopoly over a resource (like electricity, or water), forbids competition, and then prices it high, so people are slaves to their need. In a capitalist society, nobody can create artificial demand for water or other basic needs, because somebody will always have a better offer – cheaper, cleaner, etc.
    Remember the words of Henry Ford: “If I didn’t pay my workers well, who would buy my cars?”. Business is good. Employment is good. Capitalism is good.
    Wealth needs to be created. Mass unemployment does nothing for anybody. I repeat: this article is a steaming pile of shit.

    1. Agreed wholeheartedly. Terrible ideas here in this article. I don’t meant to insult the author, but the article is full of the kind of wishful thinking SJW’s indulge in. It’s not that his ideas are degenerate, but they are at least equally ungrounded.

    2. Capitalism is certainly better than socialism, but its not the best system by any means. Theres alot of human needs that it isn’t able to cater to, and it eventually becomes more monopolistic over time. The free market that economists speak so fondly of is nothing more than the rule of the jungle: Kill or be killed. Capitalism encourages its players to use deception and coercion to seize financial power. And ultimately, the only way to be truly safe in a capitalist system is to create a racket. For more on this bit, read here: http://www.combatreform.org/RACKETTHEORYv6.0.htm

       1. It’s not kill or be killed, that’s more leftist propaganda. Nobody forces a customer to buy from a business. The essence of capitalism is ‘voluntary transaction’. Also, in a Laissez-Faire capitalist system (sans government interference in the economy) a monopoly will never develop, because it is too easy for competition to arise. The larger a business grows, the less able it is to directly meet the needs of a consumer. Many customers are looking for personal relationships with those they buy from – think small bakeries, butcher shops, etc.
          What you call capitalism is actually corporatism – there is no such thing as financial ‘power’ without a government enforcing the laws with guns. In Laissez-Faire capitalism, a company can’t buy it’s way into having exclusive access to all the minerals in a country – some people will simply refuse to sell. As for monopolistic conglomerates, at some point they will cease to become as profitable, as the cost of expansion outweighs profits.
          The result is that all the ‘rich players’ eventually turn to the only profitable employment of their money – investment, usually in small businesses, start-ups, or revolutionary technologies. The result is high employment rates and a high standard of living across the board. The poor become the middle class, the middle class become the rich, and the rich retire to a life of luxury and philanthropy.
          Look at America from 1800 – 1900, and the number of self made entrepreneurs that came from nothing. Even at the turn of the century, the first self-made millionaire woman was black. Capitalism is beautiful.

          1. “Nobody forces a customer to buy from a business.” I guess you forgot about the newest govt. mandate to buy insurance.

          2. I should have said “Nobody forces a customer to buy from a business, other than the government”.

          3. See ‘corporatism’ vs ‘capitalism’, as I explained.

          4. Yeah, it wasn’t meant as a dig at you. It’s easy of us to forget because what you say was correct until recently.

       2. LEFTIST ALERT. LEFTIST ALERT. LEFTIST ALERT!!!

       3. What he said ^^

36. “While certain countries in Europe represent the poster child for social
    justice to the extent it is now virtually illegal to be a white male…”
    ??
    Europe invented whitemales… I think you might be projecting US American political correctness on Europe a bit much. In many respects Europe is freer and more conservative than the US. In the Netherlands for example one can choose his own taxpayer funded schooling… even including confessional (religious) instruction of one’s choice. Furthermore affirmative action in college admissions and “rape culture” hysteria and indoctrination of co-eds are unknown to the degree that it obsesses yanks. I’m hoping others among of our fellow international community will share some more examples.

37. I was gonna comment on how terrible this article is, but my fellow have beat me to it. strive for 80% unemployment. I suppose you would support expanding welfare to support those 80% who are unemployed?

38. when my sister was 4 or 5 years old, my dad made a comment about not having enough money to buy something. my sister’s response was “why don’t you go to the bank and get more money?” that’s how little kids see the world. they think that money and resources are unlimited. that ATM’s give out free money.
    the author of this article also apparently thinks this way. how can you be an adult and think this way? he acually thinks 80% of people can be unemployed and somehow still support themselves.
    on second thought, I’m calling this article out for being a TROLL ARTICLE.
    nobody’s this stupid.

    1. You didn’t read the article. And obviously never produced anything in your whole life. You took the easy way out by having a boss tell you what to do until he said you can retire. Never thought critically, that there might be another way. Never cultivated a skill. Its actually you whose lazy. Now move along, don’t you need to be back from lunch soon? And joke’s on you – most people liked the article.

39. I am trying to figure out the point of this article. Okay, so say we do have 80-95% unemployment. How do these people eat and have shelter?
    This macho man blog appears to be also be conservative / anti-liberal/anti-socialist, so I doubt you are proposing a Star Trek society minimum income or “mincome” and mass welfare for the unemployed / unemployable. I also doubt you are supporting just giving free food and shelter to people without jobs.
    Are you proposing we just round up the useless and unemployable and kill them? Zyklon-B for the low-skilled and low-intelligence?
    Or do you want to kill off the useless population in an indirect passive manner? We won’t explicitly form “concentration camps” exactly, but the useless shall have no support whatsoever, and be forced to live in junkyards and shanties, and experience high rates of suicide and death from easily treatable common illness, until the American population has decimated and low enough to really be where the economy needs them to be.
    Homesteading as was done over a century ago and suggested in this article, does not work. Agricultural land is expensive, and owned by huge billion dollar companies. So we’re just going to give this land away to the jobless, who have no skills for working the land, and they’re supposed to do this without any income that would be used to buy farm implements, engine fuel, or any other modern consumer goods items? Yeah, that’s going to work real swell.
    In general I think the direction we are going to have to go is to develop a very large 3rd world economy in the USA. Prices for everything MUST fall to the point that living on $1 a day is feasible, just the way it is possible to do that now in India or Bangladesh.
    To do that, as Republicans keep telling us, we MUST relax all manner of food, building, manufacturing and other health and safety regulations so that the useless and starving can be served by 3rd world grade manufacturers of dirt cheap inferior goods that may contain glass shards in the coarse ground bread. Oh well, at least it only costs a few pennies per meal.
    We as Americans need to lose this “We are the greatest” propaganda and accept that 90+% of us are useless and deserve no better than a rotting and rusting tin shack in a shantytown, killing and cannibalizing each other, and picking through rotten cast-away food picked from the dumpsters of our betters.

40. As a computer technician for many businesses, I would be more than happy to have the people who hate being at work just stay home and be unemployed. Then they wouldn’t be taking all their anger out on the tech guy who is just trying to help them with the computer they most likely broke.
    As humans, this world is ours. We should do what we want. If the people with no desire to work did not work, I really do think it would end up being less stress for those of us who enjoy working!

41. There is a third way. Robot Socialism, a type of Market Socialism. For more on this concept see fb.me/libnatars

42. What I find astonishingly brilliant is how many different ideas are in this comments section, yet nobody is name-calling, shaming, and using emotional rhetoric. It’s all logic and idea discussion. You don’t get any bullshit for disagreeing and nobody hates you for it. The Manosphere is truly one of the last bastions of free-speech that hasn’t been destroyed by the SJWs.

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