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10 Things You Must Teach Your Future Daughter

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Once a man can see and deal with the bad side of modern girls himself, the next question is obvious. How does he prevent or limit the infestation in his own family? How does he produce the better kind of daughters that are now so tragically rare?

The first thing to realize is that remaining silent and hoping things will work out is really just surrender. Perhaps there was a time in the past when most of the messages your daughter received in the outside world would have been positive and things might have worked themselves out. That is certainly not true today.

Your daughter’s information will come from school, external childcare, TV, computer time, time with friends, time with other family members, homework, books and songs. Most likely every one of those channels will be jammed full of negative messages. That’s one of the reasons there are so many girls around who are tattooed, pierced, overweight, childless, slutty office drones.

Luckily there are lots of things a man can do to help steer his daughters in the right direction. One of those is simply to talk about better, clean, and appropriate ambitions for girls. But this is not easy to do. It’s ineffective to simply bring up the topic for a serious talk out of the blue. The best way is to wait for an example or opportunity to present itself, then just hang a comment about it out there for her to hear.

It’s a bullseye if she picks it up, responds, and makes herself receptive to follow up, but don’t try to force it. Here are ten which I find effective at presenting positive, family-oriented ideas to girls and which can be endlessly repeated while retaining their impact.

1. No girl can be happy until she is a mother

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Happier in the office?

The beauty of this statement is that it’s of wide application and so easy to justify. After all, what girl doesn’t have or observe situations where she or another girl is unhappy with something in her present life? Every time school, or friends, or work are hard for a girl, just imply that her dissatisfaction will be healed when she is a successful, happy mother.

2. Why would a man want to spend his life with a bad woman?

what boy

Perfect a good time, not for a lifetime

Every girl naturally wants to be loved and treasured by a high-value man for her whole life. Even the most dreadful feminists generally conceal that as their secret aim. So every time a disgusting troll heaves herself into view, shows her dreadful personality or displays a horrible bit of decoration, point out the offense. It can be kind of fun to notice and describe what doesn’t make a man want to spend his life with a girl. It’s also very effective for teaching young girls about what is a good idea and what is not.

Occasionally it will even lead to an opportunity to say something about the difference between the short term interest a man might show for the troll and the better, longer term kind he shows for the better girls.

3. Girls are better than boys at looking after families

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No man could make a kitchen look this good

Be sparing in trying to tell a girl that she just doesn’t have physical ability, temperament, or time off from being a mother to be a SAS commando, astronaut, or fire fighter. It’s an uphill struggle and may end up encouraging her to trust the legions of people who will tell her she can and should do anything a boy does.

Instead, flip the problem over and spend time praising the things she can do better than boys. She will love to hear all about it.

4. Some things are just for boys

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Wait until she is failing or resenting being made to act like a boy. When she really, really wants to hear that she doesn’t have to, just casually mention that it is for boys anyway. She will jump at the chance to do something more feminine and love it.

5. It’s sad to see so many girls wasting their lives on study and work

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Caution! Wall ahead

Beating men at the job of being men is now the favored “role model” for our society to present to girls. Never tire of pointing out what a waste of a girl’s life that is.

6. It’s good to have a big family

This type of family is much less common nowadays

Nearly every message she receives from the outside world, even from other relatives, will state or imply that fewer or no children is better. She will be encouraged over and over again to use contraceptives and even abortion. People will try to scare her into thinking she needs to be impossibly rich before she can afford to be a mother. People will ridicule large families as failures, trailer trash, and welfare queens.

Give her some opportunity to hear a positive word about having children.

7. We don’t do that in our family

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None of that around here, thank you

Appeals to identity are powerful means for persuasion. Does it make sense? Not really. Does it work? Absolutely. Just keep mentioning the fact that our family and by implication she is too good to fall into whatever form of degeneracy is in view.

8. What we need is ladylike behavior at all times

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Ladylike is a good word to connect to positive femininity. It hasn’t suffered from being redefined by leftists much, everyone seems to understand what it means in a positive way, and a father can be fairly sure he will have the word to himself. The fact that it’s a bit out of fashion and consequently means much the same thing it did in the past is a huge advantage.

9. Being a mother is the most important job for a girl

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Another good answer to the assumption that the study and areer track is the meaning of life is to simply state that there is another, more important job for each and every girl.

10. A girl needs to start her family as soon as possible

The rest of the world will try to trick your daughter into wasting the best years of her reproductive life on an arts degree followed by a pointless career and endless fiddling with iPhones. At best there might be some vague concession to the idea of forming a family and having children “someday.” Be sure that at least one man tells her how stupid that life plan is and encourages her to take a better path.

Men must not be silent

not in our family

As fathers we have great influence over our daughters and sons. Children are desperate to learn how to live and to have their behavior approved of by parents. It’s not an automatic process, though—too many men allow themselves to default into silence and surrender that influence. Don’t.

Your daughter’s future depends on it.

Read More: Who Do You Want Your Daughter To Marry?

770 thoughts on “10 Things You Must Teach Your Future Daughter”

  1. Unfortunately, the cultural Marxist influence of society will be too great. It will hammer and sickle into her brain…
    1. Get lots of tattoos and get cornrows
    2. Get tag-teamed by black men who are going nowhere in life
    3. Miley Cyrus, Jennifer Lawrence, and Beyonce are your idols
    4. Your HR or Marketing job is more important than raising the future generation
    5. Men are tools to be used and abused (primarily for career or financial gain)
    6. Just cry “rape!” to get all the attention and drama that you want
    7. And remember, it’s all patriarchy and the white man’s fault

    1. “Unfortunately, the cultural Marxist influence of society will be too great.”
      ^^^ THIS ^^^
      And everything else he said.
      A father’s influence goes only as far as to the point where she moves out, then she will change accordingly once she is living on her own. And when ‘princess’ occasionally returns to visit daddy, she will of course behave in her child like innocence in front of him, knowing full well that he doesn’t know about her butthole tattoo. It’s only years later will he realize what a virtueless cum bucket she is, especially when she shits out her first bastard child of another ethnicity.

      1. So, it would seem the only answer is to convince her to marry a great guy whom is about 5-10 years older and already established when she turns 18 instead of going to college. Then that man can be the new main influence in her life. Maybe? What do you think?

        1. “. Then that man can be the new main influence in her life. Maybe? What do you think?”
          Good question. That a woman would get married at age 18 was the norm centuries ago. The zeitgeist overall has to change and become far less toxic.

        1. Not 100%..probably not even 75%. My brother and I are 18 months apart to the day, and nearly the hour and as he was always an inch or two taller for his age than I was, we were virtually the same height and looked like twins for long stretches of time. Raised identically in a strict Christian house/church. I’m in my mid 30s making around $300k/year in a low cost of living area with a MBA from a T10 program and been married to the same woman for almost 10 years. My brother has been in prison his entire adult life.
          Don’t get me wrong – proper parenting definitely helps improve your odds of raising a good kid but is certainly no guarantee.

    2. A good dad would seek to minimize such influence. Keeping our children out of the public k12 school system and exercising more direct control over their upbringing in their formative years will pay off in spades when they get older, as they will know that such cultural rotgut is exactly that.

      1. Direct control can backfire mightily. She could suddenly go all rebel when she’s 14 and be like “whateva, I do what I want!”

        1. Understood completely. I was referring to their time as young children (maybe 0-10 years of age).
          As they get older, they have to be given more responsibilities and be held accountable for them. This usually kills the rebellious streak, or at least the kind where teens will engage in self-destructive behavior just to piss off a parent.

        2. And keeping them out of public school and no cable/satellite TV and no to very restrictive web access will help. But is anyone really going to do that? I hope so though I’m sure it will be few.

        3. Honestly if you’re going to do all that, why are you raising them in America anyway? Serious question.

        5. I did. Now she does too with her children. Funny thing is, when you instill some traditional values into a young woman she eventually grows old enough to see the wisdom in it. Most problems have come from the breakdown of the family unit.
          I find that women who go on about being objectified have mothers that were divorced when the daughter was becoming a teenager and mom instilled her hatred into her daughter. Oh, and dad found a more attractive person to be with. Note, I did not say “physically” attractive.
          Instill into your children that family is the MOST important thing.

        6. My first two girlfriends that i ever had , they bot had the same backstory. No fathers in their lives , their fathers left when they were very little. No grandfathers in their lives , their grandfathers dead. They were both brought up in a house with their mothers and grandmothers. Guess what. The first one’s mother was so preocuppied with raising her child that all she ever did was going to the hair dresser , making her nails and talking with her italian boyfriend on the phone. This is a 50 going on 60 year old woman i’m talking about. The second one’s mom i didn’t know very much. They both seemed nagging women that men would never spend time with. And they never did. They both had brothers that were conceived with another father. I know , weird and unnbelievable story that i would stumble into the same exact thing 2 times in a row but i did. Well guess what , never again will i have a serious relasionship with a girl that grew without a father. They were both feminist independent nagging self-important self-entitled cheating honourless , principle-less sorry excuses for women.

        7. Not weird, brother, scary in that it truly is becoming more commonplace. I knew five of my GREAT Grandparents and ALL of my Grandparents and many of their brothers and sisters. My parents were married in 1960 and still are. My sisters are pretty well adjusted.

        9. Those aren’t the problem, technology only exposes flaws not create them. We live in the age of information, embrace it don’t hide it

        11. Yes, I came from a rural upbringing where self sufficiency and cooperation in the family was at a premium. If someone had a particularly bad year farming, having to use food stamps was still treated with a sense of shame by the person receiving them.
          It’s why we had a one acre garden, canned that food, hunted, trapped and fished. We didn’t shoot a deer for the trophy mounted head but for food. Welcome to the concrete jungle where much different prey is hunted.
          I’m fortunate since I’m buying six acres with a home, two stocked ponds and is nearby several 100 acre tracts of timber that are thick with deer, quail, pheasants, etc. Going back to those basics with a very good woman who is the antithesis of today’s “modern woman”. She was also raised by both of her parents. Consider it a modified MGTOW…

        1. Don’t be mad just because all women of your skin color worship men of his skin color and their cocks

        2. Interesting how the true motives of the negro commenters always reveal themselves in a very short time.
          Muh dick.

        4. I have a feeling that englishbob is joking.
          Knee-jerk reactions to the written word led to ROK being branded a pro-rape forum.

      3. In my neck of the woods we keep .308’s. Then we redefine the term “mandingo party” to “mandingo hunting party”. Be glad there are plenty of skanks, but be careful where you choose to throw your party.

    4. Is there any way to reverse the damage that feminism has done to 2 generations of western women?

    5. THIS.
      While I agree with and enjoyed reading this article, the #1 reason I have not married is because I do not wish to raise a family in the corrupt culture of the west, and for financial reasons I am not ready to leave it yet.
      When we look back just a decade or two and see the enormous changes that have happened in our society, and consider the momentum going forward, if you had a child today, can you imagine what the social environment will be 2 decades in the future when she is finishing high school?
      Also, the social proof will all be on the cultural Marxist side, and not the fathers. All of the items you mention above will have social proof that they are valuable (tattoos lead to comments and compliments and stares; Miley Cyrus praised and featured everywhere; attention whoring for men and using them gets you attention, free meals and drinks; no slut shaming–your friends will back up your skanky behavior, etc.)

    7. If it’s important enough to you then you must MOVE. A decision I will face before long is whether I will stay in Poland or move back to California. Though life is more comfortable in CA it would also lead to many negative cultural and societal influences as you described. These are very hard decisions to make but as men we MUST make them. Giving up isn’t an option.

    9. Hubert Cumberdale …fancy seeing you here.
      Spot on mate , 7/7 right. If i may be permitted to add number 8 : and then STILL believe they are morally superiors and righteous and oppressed.

  2. It’s also important to teach them about heritage and hammer in the fact that race-mixing is out of the question.

  3. You are all fucked up, thank to this I know the 10 things I must not teach my future daughter. But what I do have to teach her is to avoid extremely stupid guys that approve this kind of behaviour.

    1. Make sure she gets lots of body ink, piercings, skrillex-haircut-with-dyed blue hair, sleeps with lots of STD infected degenerate men, and… oh what have I missed. You’ll be parent of the year.

      1. You forgot to take out lots of personal debt to fund that worthless degree she will be paying off until middle age. Nothing screams “Independent” like being out 5 digits for that BA in Womyn Studies.

        2. Make no mistake, men will eventually be paying for that debt. Women will, through the ballot box, ensure their student loan debts are written off. And guess to whom the burden of repayment then shifts.

        3. Women will, through the ballot box, ensure their student loan debts are written off.

          You aren’t kidding.
          I fully expect the Democrat nominee for president to propose full and complete student loan forgiveness at taxpayer expense, mainly to pay for people like this.
          http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/08/sanders-columbia-graduate-deserves-bailout-from-200k-in-student-loans/
          The short version… this strong independent woman borrowed $200k to get a liberal arts degree from Columbia University. And now she wants you to pay for it.

        4. No doubt there Conrad. Today in the US 70% of income taxes are redistrubuted to other people, who do you think are the biggest beneficiaries? Avoiding personal repsonsiblitiy and craving other peoples money– women are born socialists.

    3. I suppose the one upside of this is that your kind of thinking will hit an evolutionary dead end.

    4. You encourage women to engage in obviously self-destructive behaviour that will ensure that they will end up single or worse, married to a man like you when they can no longer attract a better mate. You tell them they should work 9 to 5 for a souless corporation run by men who don’t love them only to be compensated with a measly pay and a depression futher down the road, while at the same time wasting their limited amount of precious ova. They will be mourned only by their cats and their other single friends (not her now ex-husband because she divorced him when she was 53 on that basis that she was not haaaaapy).
      Meanwhile, we here at ROK encourage women to work for their husband, a man who loves and cares about her on a deep spiritual level, for about 3 or 4 hours a day doing simple chores and taking care of her children who she loves. Then, she gets to spend time with her grand-children and, if I look at my grand-mothers and the way they cherish me, seems to be a pretty sweet deal. Finally, she will die surrounded by all the people she loves and who loves her, and for whom she has spent a lifetime trying to make better people out of. She will die showing a smile only people who know of work well-done can show.
      Who is the misogynist again?

      1. Funny thing is, cats won’t even mourn the sluts/hags/post wall walking cesspool. They would simply look for their next source of food/shelter

    6. Ah don’t mind these idiots. They cannot see that the guy who wrote that does not even have any experience in decent fatherhood and is actually making money out of their stupidity. Besides, for them to have a daughter they would need to get laid. Not much chance of that. 😉

        2. I don’t want to read your friend. I don’t know him. Now get away you cultural rapist.

        4. “I don’t want to read your friend. I don’t know him.”
          Doesn’t know, doesn’t care, doesn’t care to know. Another useful idiot.

        5. I’m using their weapons against them. Since they can call anyone a rape apologist without basis, I thought I’d try it too.

      3. I always experience an odd mix of hilarity and disgust and sadness when women pride themselves on how many people they’ve slept with.

        1. Growing up in the west near a capitol city and attending the capitol city’s public schools, something commonly talked about between classmates is ”what does YOUR mommy do for work”. Then the kids chat and compare notes on how THEIR mommy is a bigger bureaucratic cunt office tomboy or administrator of femcunt government. They compete and brag how their mommy is the biggest cunt in a pant suit. Gone are the days of hearing ”what does your daddy do?”. One kid who said his mom was some cunt magistrate on the judiciary was coincidentally the biggest emasculated flaming faggott by the time high school rolled around. Connect the dots folks.

        2. Sounds to me that you’re jealous more than anything else. Why would you care otherwise? Anyway how is that in any way relevant?

        3. I’ve never had any great urging to want to sleep with dozens of men, so I’m not sure jealousy plays here. The relevance is simple: I assumed you were a woman who prided herself on how many men she’s slept with or who attributed an overly high social price to notch counts. Given your disjointed reply, I’m guessing I was right.
          The overarching relevance is that you’re clearly an unhappy woman telling other women how to live their lifes. I find this to be one of the crueller pursuits in existence. That you would knowingly encourage people who have done you no wrong to be as miserable as you are.
          I am not jealous of those who sleep around. I am jealous of my parents and grandparents who have long, meaningful marriages. Believe it or not, sleeping with women like you isn’t something I see as an accomplishment. It’s more a failure of principles and self respect.

    7. God forbid you ever have a daughter, Hernan. You sound like an emotional, reactionary fool. If I told you not to drink bleach, what would you do?

      1. Me reactionary? These are the 10 most reactionary tips I ever read. And what do bleach have to do with anything? You think that a woman studying and working it’s a bad thing? The reactionary are all of you.

        1. So you disagree with one of the 10 points, and you think studying and working is great. I only agreed with about 9 of them myself, but thought it was a good article. Why are you still here?

        2. I don’t disagree with one point only, I disagree with all of them. The only point I could partially agree with is point number seven, but not aiming it to women but to all members of the family. All the points at article are aiming at considering the women an object or prize of men, and not to mention the sense of “superiority” this article gives men. Why should I teach my future children these tips? I don’t want my future daughter to feel inferior than man and my future son to feel superior than women. And to finish, I am here to reply to your comment and to give my opinion on this reactionary note.

  4. This is a very important lesson for all men. As men are being outnumbered by the growing population of women, at the same time, the rise in degeneracy associated with today’s women is also rising. As boys are becoming emasculated due to being raised by single mothers, the same problems of single motherhood can also be attached towards the upbringing of girls. It is for this reason that the role of a father, plays a significant part in the raising of a girl. In essence, fatherhood is the bastion of providing structure and discipline within an individual.
    The girls of today’s world and generations back, have all been brought up with a sense of entitlement and this indeed, can be found in all of the propoganda that is delivered by the major establishments which continues to perpetuate all of the bad influences on today’s young girls. From the schooling system indoctrinating kids with the idea that girls are more special than boys, to the media producing cultural nonsense about princesses to the “role models” of the internet who scream about female empowerment, all of this contributes towards the decline of today’s women.
    The average woman in today’s society has been taught all of the wrong ideals from a very young age, that it is leading towards the breakdown of the traditional nuclear family. From careers, special entitlements, independent and empowering women, not leaning in towards fulfilling home duties and expecting a man to do it etc, all of this is resulting in the devastation of today’s world where we are witnessing the high divorce rates, spoilt entitlements, delusions of equality, false rape accusations, bossy and aggressive women and rampant feminism.
    Which is why it is very important for men to raise their daughters to the best of their ability. While it is traditionally a woman’s duty to instill the right values in a girl, the reality is that with what has become of today’s women and how they will essentially, destroy the upbringing of a girl, a man must intervene and fulfill this duty. A man should therefore, teach his daughter about traditional family values, the true qualities associated with a respectable woman and what men naturally expect from a woman such as cooking, financial responsibility, the importance of patience and delayed gratification, honor and respecting the order of the family unit. All of these lessons, help to maintain the traditional nuclear family while instilling girls with the right values on what it takes to maintain a good role in society.
    If anything the world has taught us, is that everything which today’s monstrous women exhibit, are all of the exact ingredients which has led to all of the good men running away and leaving women asking the same question over and over- “where did all the good men go?”

  5. Even if stupid careers for the sake of them is a problem, everyone should still be encouraged to study to a reasonable level. The problem today is that women are neglecting motherhood at an appropriate age and the nature of education today leads them to make stupid choices that screw up their lives. Get rid of feminism from education and half the problem is sorted

    1. I was having a conversation with a woman today who asked me out for drinks and that we could form an alliance , I asked he what she brought to the table she said “I’m educated , adventurous , sociable , and have a respectable job ” I then asked her to describe me she said ” you’re a masculine man , a man’s man
      ” after that I told ” so then what makes you think I find anything you just said attractive? I have all those qualities. You sound like you’re applying for a job interview not to go on a date ” she replied ” well what I’m I supposed to say ” to which I replied “I can’t teach you to be a woman ” culture has convinced women that men find those things attractive. Most women I come across sound like me in my early 20s at a job interview.

        1. Not knocking her but having a respectable job does not interest me in the least unless it’s gymnast or volley ball coach . Women can’t even flirt well anymore

      2. Making your expectations clear like that is excellent, though probably few would be so forthright. It’s probably a skill most men should learn even if it results in both hits and misses and the occasional woman going off in a huff

        1. Most women respond well if you’re not a complete ass. Just be polite and direct. You’ll find woman are more inclined to act feminine the more masculinity you exude .

    2. Agree.
      If my daughter has the drive and aptitude to become a doctor, am I really going to tell her “Sorry honey, the guys at ROK said that this is economically unfeasible in the long term and you’ll probably become a depressed career bitch with an overly expensive cat.”
      It’s a tough situation though because if she goes to uni she’s going to be bombarded with leftism and get banged the fuck out.

      1. Even if you know that being a young stay at home mother would most likely be better for her?

        1. Who in reality these days can afford a single income household? As far as I can tell the traditional way of life has become unaffordable.
          I would prefer if my daughter could marry into a good family with a good man and be a mother, but in my experience this isn’t financially possible.
          I’m happy to be wrong on this.

        2. Build a nest egg and move to another country. Don’t have a family. Or accept that your daughter will most likely be the usual garden variety slut we all love to fuck and hate to otherwise associate with.
          A fourth option exists. Become rich enough to give a dowry that lets her live traditionally. This of course runs the risk that she and her boyfriend spends it all within a year.

        3. Building a nest egg and relocating is the current plan…
          But I’m not giving my savings to some horny young punk like myself.

        4. Heh, points for self-knowledge. Personally, I don’t even plan on having kids unless I can pay for my entire family until they are 20 and I’m dead. So not likely as things stand.

      2. There’s ridiculous pressure on women to have careers. Feminism has made their entire self-worth about careers and “independence” while ignoring what actually makes a woman a woman. The best way to address that IMO is to point out that feminism is trying to coerce women to do things they probably wouldn’t choose to do if they were left to their own devices. Women are often highly suggestible, but also highly contra-suggestible, if you approach things too crudely. They need to understand that Marissa Meyer isn’t more attractive because she’s CEO of Yahoo. If anything she’s much less so. But equally there will always be girls who want to be her, and we should allow for genuine ambition and talent (although from her performance it appears Meyer actually lacks the latter). Right now if feminism is coercing women we could not unreasonably present ourselves as ‘women’s liberation’! But that only works with a certain lightness of touch

    3. I agree that everyone should study to a certain level, but that is usually reached by age 16-17. I think we place too much emphasis on being university educated. Not everyone
      1. Is smart enough
      2. Deserves one
      3. Will put the degree to the best use (work the hours needed in the place it’s needed and not retire at 30)
      4. Will pay back the cost of education
      Man or woman, only those who satisfy those criteria should go to uni. that would reduce enrolments too, reducing the power held by the progressives in positions of “tenure” and the influence they have.
      University has become this generations “participation trophy”.

      1. I would once have disagree with that, but now I think that’s pretty much exactly right. There has been a great cost to encourage pretty much everybody to go to university. Although maybe it wouldn’t be so bad if the teaching hadn’t degenerated so completely

    1. I wouldn’t exactly turn to paganism such Mormonism as a standard to instruct our daughters, but then it is still better than the paganism from Disney

      1. I’m not Mormon but the video is a gem. I also support chastity belts, burkas and sharia but only in severe cases, and I’m not even muslim. In fact I look like Opie. The women’s correctional institutions should be closed down and the naughtiest women handed over to their individual family patriarchs to administer discipline. Family issues and women/children are the domain of the noble patriarch, not the state. The state should only govern and represent citizens through the family patriarch, but it’s ‘HANDS OFF’ the women and children for the state. Western governments need to keep their FILTHY SOCIALIST HANDS off of our women and children.

  7. My cousin has 3 little girls. Eldest is 8. I asked him what he is going to do when they are teenagers. He looked at the girls, looked back at me and said, very simply “go into the garage and shoot myself in the head”

    1. It seems to me that he has a very pessimistic view on raising daughters. While I agree that pop culture influence has spread its vicious tentacles and engulf teenagers’ impressionable minds, much can be done to parry and avoid the damaging propaganda by MSM.
      A daughter is raised properly can be an enormous blessings for the parents and her hubby.

  8. If and when I have a daughter, I would say,

    Above all else respect your virtue. If you don’t, boys will never respect you.

  10. Don’t have any daughters myself, as my family is predisposed to seeding boys over girls (yes, my sperm is misogynist), but this is all good advice for fathers and mothers of little girls.

  11. I look at all the single women in their late 20’s and 30’s who still see “boyfriends” and still go on “dates,” and I shake my head. These women feel alienated, depressed and hostile for that very reason – they have chosen not to fulfill their natural function.
    You have to wonder at the cognitive dissonance here. Progressives talk a lot about the importance of living with nature, hence their environmentalism, emphasis on organic foods and such. Yet they turn around and encourage young women to defy nature by ingesting artificial hormones to sabotage their natural fertility cycle so these women can engage in sexual encounters with a series of men who have no intention of marrying them and forming families. Women’s bodies and minds didn’t evolve to handle this kind of abuse and perversion of their biological destiny. No wonder women wind up so screwed up these days.

    1. Your first paragraph and then some. All the arguments being listed currently by feminists are both a power play to try and override a man’s sensibilities for partnership and to try and socially bully him into a partnership.
      I say partnership as most men incapable of marrying a woman in her thirties or late twenties unless there is a high amount of parability at play or she represents some manner of chastity. Otherwise what you see is a man, depressed and faking it, sleeping with a reformed slut hoping for a miracle shot at starting her long differed motherhood trip. I hope parents do take heed because I have yet to see an unhappy woman without a career. But I always see an unhappy woman who has either a child and is single or even worse, in her thirties and without child.

    2. What you say here is very much true. Just think about when a grown woman says “that’s my boyfriend.” It even sounds silly.

    3. Most millenials I talk to freely admit they have never been on an actual “date” where the guy picks her up, takes her to an event, dinner, social setting, etc. and takes her home. It’s all group social outings and hookup culture.

      1. A friend of mine gave me some great advice a while ago on finding good long term relationship material; ask them out on real dates. Not social outings or getting blotto at a bar. Precisely because no one does this anymore and it separates you from the pack.
        Hookup material won’t respond well to this. They will say no or lose interest after the first date because they are conditioned to be treated like shit. Girls who are interested in settling down, having a family, and a committed relationship will respond favorably to this approach.

    1. Homophobia as a way to shame masculinity. This is why I can’t take any liberal cause seriously.

      1. Or the other dubious addition, ” You need to love faggots. What are you, a pussy?!”

  13. Teach her nationalistic values.
    She will be less likely to be corrupted by mtv and slut culture if you teach her to love her own folk. Plus tribalism is a good trait for a wife and mom.


    There will be no retarded twerking videos in my house. Good european traditional and classic music.
    Plus, teach her to play violin or piano and to read classical literature. That’s some of the best education out there.

    1. Ethnic dancing cements tribal solidarity. In a land far away from the clutches of the jew SPLC, these Nordic kids dance unhindered, not a jew in the room and not even a token non white:

      Now we go far to the south and we see something equally exhillarating, pureblood Zulus dancing for their king. Do you see a single token wigger or wannabee Disney shitmuncher amongst them? Nope. Only PUREBLOOD ZULU. Stay tribal my friends:

      But all can’t be guaranteed to stay well on the savannah. Dad had better snatch this insideous contraption out of the hands of his woman PRETTY DURN QUICK. A tear wants to flow anticipating that this may be one of the last family videos where the clan was bound together under patriarchy:

      .

    2. The ONLY thing I don’t like about this site is the undercurrent of racism. It’s all from the comments though instead of the contributors so I don’t let it affect my opinion too strongly.
      Fun fact: Daryush Valzideh is not completely white.

      2. Completely agree. Many like minded posters have either stopped or greatly diminished their posts over the last few months due to the influx of white nationalists supporters. And thus far, it has mainly been a rage filled current as opposed to a resolution minded reaction. The world is too far gone for isolation and this is for several reasons.

        1. Yeah these Stormfront white nationalists came out the woodwork. Ironically, some of the best posters here were/are non-white or mixed race. I don’t have a problem with white nationalists per se as I’m a black nationalist but whenever you present an arguments that challenges their POV they resort to Ad Hominems instead of debating. At the end of the day, we need to form coalitions between the races, lets be critical and give credit to EVERY race.
          The whole ‘White is Right!’…”other races are inferior!’ that is growing on this websites needs to be routed out. On the flipside, the white nationalists on here are quick to bash white girls that copulate outside of their race but they don’t think its hypocritical when they desire to copulate with SEA girls, Latina, Africans etc etc.

        2. yeah, the stormfront guys are really strange.
          You see an article like 5 reasons you should work out and in 4 comments somehow there is a conversation going on about the jews.
          I think I am the least racist person in the world as I think all people are equally terrible and worthy of derision…but on just about any article about anything (I actually found ROK through an article about stocking your home bar) it winds up being about white girls getting boned by black guys because of the jews.

        6. To chime in on what both you and PSquare are saying, it is the antithesis of red pill, not because of the lack of incentive to be a national, but because they use their rage to hide convenient truths to molly coddle themselves. No differently than a child sticking their fingers in their ears to say you aren’t the boss of me.
          In a nation where white is somewhere at 68 percent of the populace, it boggles my mind why anyone would think a minority wouldn’t look appealing to a white woman or man. When all you see is white bread, why wouldn’t you try steak, veal, fajitas, or low mein? I’m a bit of a national in myself PSquare. In a nation like America you need to be, especially when you are no where near your cultural ties. Otherwise it is easy to get lost in the narrative. I would be horrified if I were strictly American and had to abide by the culture here solely.

        7. Exactly that, and there is evidence that shows that women are most attracted to men who have pheromones most different to hers, sometimes that occurs in her own race, sometimes that occurs in ‘contrasting’ races. White men have literally, historically and presently had the pick of their litter in ALL the other races but cry a river when a handful of white girls CHOOSE to be with black guys.

        10. Exactly! And the logic is failing because they are duplicitous. They want the women to choose them solely while they are pumping and dumping them crying that minorities will pump and dump. Being burned hurts no matter the source of flame. And then go the flip route of traveling the world or claiming bastions of sexual embrace like the Phillipines.
          Even with this, sexual market place derision is the precursor to the blatant slandering of the creations from every side of the race to suggest whites invent all. Even a five year old will question this logic. Just look at where they outsource for computer geniuses and inventions. I don’t see a high push to bring in Europeans for intelligent creation for cheap. Why is that? Can’t be they are saving those bright minds for a rainy day or Mars when it will be colonized or some other vapid theory.

        12. It is simply called nationalism. Other countries have yellow nationalism, black nationalism, brown nationalism. Why don’t you like your own race?

        13. That difference is biological. Men were not typically abducted from their tribes and forced to mate with women from other tribes. The reverse, however, is why men have a strong desire to dominate women and why most women have rape fantasies.

        14. I’m with you guys but what do you make of Europeans being concerned about the economic and demographic crisis going on in Europe right now?
          I’m not just gonna say eh fuck it…

        15. I have never stopped loving my race. I just know enough about the world’s history not ignore basic facts and trends. If it were as simple as being a nationalist I would wholeheartedly agree. However, there are stark contradictions which separate the reality suggested vs what actually exists. I merely pointed out the aspect of sexual preference.
          There the intelligence as well as uses and the complete ignorance regarding culture and how it affects performance. Most Europeans coincidentally have a true nationalist sentiment as they acknowledge all who are apart of their nation. Here in America, there is a mock separation to suggest nationalism when it should be noted as Culturalism. And thus far, white nationalism seem like an angry version of feminism staking claim to all the best inventions of mankind and disavowing anything that doesn’t tow the line, including white women. This sounds more like a white male club and I happen to like women.

        16. Nationalism is tribal. There is no such thing as a nationalist who welcomes countless thousands of hostile foreign men into his country. Women are another matter, but they don’t come willingly in large numbers, they have to be raided.

        17. I think people are confused in regards to racism.
          Sadistic hatred of other groups, which is what people define as racism, is bad.
          Patriotism, ethnic favoritism and suspicion of outsiders is healthy and necessary for the survival of each ethnic group.
          Only westerners are currently denying themselves this right, and this is due to liberal propaganda.
          Love for your own folk is not racist, it is commendable. And loving your own means opposing competing groups, wether it’s rapeugees or other distinct migrants.
          White self-love is fine. Enormous ammounts of animosity towards other, unless waranted, is indeed not something I would condone, since it is a sign of insecurities or other issues.

        18. I would feel sympathy for the Europeans if they weren’t the very DIRECT cause of this migrant crisis. Most North African migrants now travel from Libya. Who was responsible for the death of Ghaddafi? Most Arab migrants are from ISIS controlled areas. Who diposed Saddam and is trying to dipose Assad?. This phenomenon would have also been happening in America but luckily they have a strategic geographical location. All these secular dictators that kept the regions stable were overthrown by NATO. You reap what you sow, this is what happens when the West try to spread freedumbs and dumbocracy through force and blood. You can’t create Frankenstein and be mad or surprised when he goes for your head.

        19. Every man has and should be demanded to defend his home. Especially from outside threats. The very definition of being a man is to be resolute on boundaries come what may. Also what is demanded of a man, as per resolution, to stick to a decision come what may. We all have the right to change our minds when more information presents itself, but not to change our minds in the same breath.
          I agree with your idea of nationalism if that were the basics but in practice, it is tribal when there is something to fight but easily hate filled and duplicitous when there aren’t any enemies. I simply can’t get over the contradictions of calling Asians ‘chinks’, Latinas ‘gringos’, blacks ‘niglettes’ and then exclaiming a desire to copulate with Persians, Asians, Jews, Brazilians, Mexicans, or some black Americans with the excuse that they are part white.
          America is a bit of a forced amalgamation that has worked for a few centuries. The women are coming here willingly and on any male that will sponsor them. That won’t change as long as America stands strong.

        20. You are correct. But it is important to understand that currently western countries DO NOT control their own governments.
          Just look at Germany shutting down any discussion, and we have a similar situation in the Anglo world.
          The Libyan war was a banker’s war. Gadaffi was planning to transition to a gold backed currency. US did not like that idea, hence the invasion.
          But it is important to understand that because warmongerers support this, does not mean regular europeans do.
          In fact the rise of the identitarian movements in Europe and Trump in the US is a sign of people getting tired of foreign intervention.
          Either way, western governments are under occupation by treacherous elites, waiting to get satched. So I would not be hard on Europeans. Just because bankers and zionist interest drag them into war, does not mean they should face the consequences instead of those who initiated this wars, the (((elites))).
          I hope they get overturned soon, but until then, I will fight tooth and nail for the prosperity of Europe and no one can guilt me out of it. I do not care what does before me did. I will not pay for their crimes, and I will try to make things right.
          Keep your spirits high, western brothers.
          The dawn is near.
          https://i.redditmedia.com/bXEIRkurunMMfzA0tsg-iWl5f3V1hnhpQZaoT0JMOMo.jpg?w=320&s=d1818f35d9b927222cd281c1d013e507

        21. I don’t know enough to argue with that. But what you’re saying makes sense… Frankenstein = karma.
          All I’ll say is from the perspective of the average European civilian, either they wake up and rediscover a sense of identity, or they’ll lose the future of their culture.
          It’s an ugly situation… And I don’t know how else to react to this other than to form a defensive stance.

        22. I do agree with you but the sins of the father are always inherited by the children, its always the innocent that are victims to elitist traitors and the Zionist scum unfortunately

        23. I’m white. I do not hate other ethnicities. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to mix the races in marriage. It’s as much a matter of culture as skin color/features.

        24. “America is a bit of a forced amalgamation that has worked for a few centuries. ”
          It was an amalgamation of European cultures. Up to 1965, there were quotas meant to preserve the demographics of the nation. Thus, 90 % immigrants were european.
          Even then, there was a 30 year moratorium put to assimilate these people into US. And boy, it wasn’t smooth. One needs just to remember with what contempt they looked at Irish.
          Major social dysfunction started occuring after the demographic changes post 1965.
          US was not a nation of immigrants. It was a nation of European settlers and mostly European immigrants up to 1965.
          This idea of melting pot has shown itself discredited unfortunately. It was an invention anyway.
          Unity is strength. Diversity is weakness.

        25. I agree.
          But we can’t reverse history, we must make sure not to do more damage as soon as possible.

        26. It confuses a child’s sense of identity.
          Encouraging national unity is a good idea.

        27. Wrong, the only race that has a right to have that assertion are the Native Americans who have ancestral claims to that land. America is fair game for any immigrant. What right do Europeans have to claim America for their own which is historically a non-European land any more than an Asian or an African.
          So the secret to having ownership of a foreign land is to wipe out the natives, outbreed them and only allow immigration of people of your own race? umm ok…so whats wrong with whats happening in Europe?

        28. Exactly. I’ve seen the children torn between two worlds. They may have an affinity for one culture over the other but feel guilty for “neglecting” one side.
          Think about the children, not just your own pleasure.

        29. Point. And remember the Native Americans drove out others before them. But this was also before the period of statehood as we know it. It’s not necessarily “wrong” what’s happening in Europe, it’s more of a lament seeing people give in to a barbaric culture so easily.

        30. Yeah, but what the conquest of the Americas, Australia and New Zealand showed us is that Might=RIght. Modern day examples would be the Ashkenazi Jews(who are a essentially Eastern Europeans) taking Palestine through force and mass migration.

        31. There is nothing “wrong” with immigrants taking over Europe, inherently.
          When 2 incompatible populations end up on the same territory they end up conflicting, and usually it ends up in bloodshed, with one side victorious.
          Thus, if the settlers did not kill indians, they would have been killed by settlers instead.
          There is no RIGHT side, there is just the WINNING side. And you better hope to be on the winning one.
          That’s it. Which is why I am not saying “immigrants are wrong”. I am saying they want something from me, well I ain’t giving it. They will have to take it by force. So we will see who wins in the end.
          There is no law but the law of Steel. Those who wan’t to live, let them struggle, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle, don’t deserve to live.
          Fight or be destroyed
          https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_400_400/p/2/005/07c/2d5/1aebbc3.jpg
          PS : The American Continent was populated by indian tribes, but the nation of USA was created by white settlers who took over masses of mostly empty land. In fact some injuns sold their lands for beads. It was what it was. No sense to gloat about it now.

        32. Agreed. It reminds me of a quote by the great American Western writer Louis L’Amour.
          Paraphrasing it “There will always be someone to take your place. The Apaches fight us now. They drove others out before them, and there will come others to drive us out. The only thing that never changes is everything changes.”

        33. But there are enemies. They walk amongst us and randomly shoot people up. And the state sides with them over the natives.
          As to chinks etc, japs call everyone else gaijin. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t fuck a blue eyed blonde. It’s the men of other tribes we don’t like, because they keep us from their women. Always has been, for millions of years and will continue to be.

        35. Actually Frankenstein was not the monster. That was the doctor. And we do not live in democracies. The people responsible are our owners, the politicians and bankers.

        36. Mostly everyone would fuck a blue eye blonde. Same as the basis for many attractive women around the world. As men we will have sex with women despite the race, creed, and religion. However, while nationalism serves its purpose wouldn’t it be appropriate to start acknowledging things as a nation?
          We are gross as a nation as we consistently pass over the acknowledgements of the Bill of Rights and The Consistitution. It should be mandatory knowledge as a national reference. Also if we are only going to release a portion of the history of slavery knowing the nation was built off the back of slavery, whether it was agreed upon with the Indians, or by birth for the blacks, we can only expect new people birthed in America to consider themselves inferior for being a member of a group that had to be allowed to exist. If as a group we decided to release the information of slavery regarding all sides of the races in America would that not remove the victimhood card and force a more merit based system of promotion devoid of affirmative action?
          Even now as we exclaim to close our boarders, we still demand our labor be handled by people we view as lower. Whether that is our brick layers, restaurant employees, minimum wage job holders, etc. these are people in positions we simply won’t take or they can’t grow past. As Americans we can’t be blamed for someone not bettering themselves but at the Same time can’t deny they are needed as we wouldn’t do these jobs ourselves.
          You don’t change what isn’t broken, and as a lot of men got in power off of a model that allows them to do so off of merit, this shouldn’t be changed. It is simply time to acknowledge the truth of our structure as of now, and start removing liabilities. Some aspects of our American culture are a liability that have been exploited by feminists and socialists for their own gain. We need to take the red pill and come up with solutions that can work.

        38. “I think all people are equally terrible and worthy of derision.”
          Now there’s a definition of equality I can get behind.

        39. The only workable solution to the only political topic of lasting importance is to close the borders and kick every single illegal, and their babies, out. And in europe, to kick every muslim and middle easterner out. Forger higher philosophical questions, we are down to mere survival at this point.

        40. Thanks. I feel that racism is elevating one race over another. That’s crazy. Everyone fucking sucks. I work on the assumption that everyone is intolerable. For the 5% of people I am wrong about I apologize. It turns out my 95% accuracy rate is much better than the roughly 40% accuracy I get when I try to judge individually.

        41. Nationalism is a mean not an end.
          Every one can hide behind it, as shows history. Even deeply anti-national ideologists : the commies used it against the german, the french revolutionaries used despite their universalist agenda, North Corea uses nationalism too, etc.
          A liberal nationalism can happen, if muzzies do too much friendly fire. In that case you’d fight for the gay pride against the chariah.

        42. “Even now as we exclaim to close our boarders, we still demand our labor be handled by people we view as lower. Whether that is our brick layers, restaurant employees, minimum wage job holders, etc. these are people in positions we simply won’t take or they can’t grow past. As Americans we can’t be blamed for someone not bettering themselves but at the Same time can’t deny they are needed as we wouldn’t do these jobs ourselves.”
          Disagree here. It’s a confusion of cause and effect. Less immigrants would drive salaries up, and so locals will be willing to do it. Now blue collar men are stuck with very low paying jobs because they have to compete with migrants.

        43. The kooks of stormfront, black power, jihadis, feminists, conspiracy theorists, etc… trying to hijack the threads gets annoying, but if they are in small numbers they can be scrolled over easy enough. If their comments start to dominate the threads, it usually ends up killing the blog.

        44. I hear your arguments and yes they are valid, but a true white nationalist with the utmost respect and love for his kind does not want to breed with dark ethnicities. I know that I don’t for sure.
          So in the same strain of argument, white women who allow themselves to be violated by brown/black/yellow/orange whatever are not valid partners for me nor any other self-respecting white man who wants his kids to be their own special progeny, and not inadvertently infused with the DNA of different races: http://www.returnofkings.com/70425/research-suggests-that-a-womans-body-incorporates-dna-from-the-semen-of-her-casual-sex-partners

        46. That’s how assimilation works, unless you want to go back to the Demokkkrat days of segregation?

      3. I didn’t post anything racist. I am european, and love european cultures. I do not hate on others.
        Teaching kids to love their own culture is important in the age of rootless cosmopolitanism. It is a weak tribal identity that causes people to seek reclusion in the company of tumlbr, SJW and other “strong independent people”.
        If you are filipino, teach her filipino culture, if you are brazilian, than teach her about Brazil. It’s important to promote healthy national identity in kids. I don’t see how that’s diminishing other cultures.
        Tribalism, Nationalism is closer related to traditional gener roles and virtue than TV garbage about twerking dat booty.
        I don’t hate non-whites.

        1. Supporting men worldwide to all enrich and pursue their own tribal identity is right on the money. And it’s a blow to the globalist agenda.

        1. True but some of the white nationalists on here can’t conceive that there are actual legitimate criticism whites need to be accountable for. Certain sects of Blacks and Jews have been rightfully criticized on here but whenever whites are criticized its some cosmic conspiracy to wipe them out. Every race has contradictory features. Lets be both critical and give praise to the characteristics of each race.

        2. We are in fact being wiped out. Doesn’t matter what you call it. Another 50 years of the current state of affairs and there will be no white countries left.

      5. I wouldn’t call it an undercurrent, as that suggests obfuscation. There are people on this site who are unashamedly racist and others who aren’t. That’s called diversity.

      6. Let me step in here. What he said in this post was just about culture nothing else.
        Even if he was to make fun of other cultures or nations that wouldn’t be racist.
        It would only be racist if he was to intrinsically exclude people from that culture or nation based on their race.
        If you are referring to his other comments though, then I don’t want to step in.

        1. Exactly, of all my comments, this one had nothing to do with race at all.
          And I am not a white nationalist. I am european and an ordinary nationalist.

        1. Basically we are denying the law of large numbers. Out of 100 pakistani, a very big number will be deficient in some way. It’s logical therefore to bar their entrance into your country, even if it means a few good pakis suffer. It’s harsh, but it’s life. There is no way to avoid profiling or “racism”. It doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad, it just is, and it’s necessary to survive.
          Racism is in fact in-group favoritism. And that is a survival strategy employed by all ethnicities, except western whites, for whom it’s asociated with nazis, but that’s stupid. Whites are a global minority and are losing their own countries to immigrants, that is not okay. During desperate times we take desperate measures, whether it’s closing borders or deporting.
          Either way, this current trend of sympathy to outsiders is ending, due to the extreme situation we are in.
          All I have to say is, there is nothing wrong with protecting your country from danger, even if that means being “racist”.
          The one thing we can all agree is hating other races or desiring them harm out of sadism is evil. But as of right now, racism in Europe in US serves a more defensive purpose. It most likely will not end up in a genocie of foreigners, maybe a civil war or expulsion, but not genocide.
          So I think the strawman of whites wanting to kill and dominate other races is stupid. But protecting the future of the countries with “racism”(tribalism) is not just ok, it’s necessary.
          As one great poster on this site, Terry Xu, would say :
          “Nothing wrong with xenophobia in small amounts.”

      8. But nowhere in life do you find people that 100% agree with you. I don’t really like going out and banging nasty club sluts. A lot of guys here do.
        One concern I had about the meetup was that I would meet some ultra national guys who are racist, high T college guys who want to sleep with whores, or roid rage dudes that would want to get violent. Because those people exist. But so what? I’m a man and I can use rationality and judgment to accept or reject any ideas I’m presented with.
        Plus, you’d be surprised how most people have racist beliefs. The difference is, here people are at least honest about what they believe.
        Was there anything racist about the traditional dance videos posted above? Is it racist to enjoy good, wholesome song and dance that was passed down to your people for generations? Should we throw away our entire cultural history and just build something based on a neutral brownish-greyish androgenous person?

        1. I do not really understand why this particular post sparked this whole thing. It was benign.
          I made more controversial comments, and others even more so.
          What was so racist about songs and dances is beyond me.

      1. Yeah, because we know all ‘real men’ have kid GIFs ready to drop and spend their times commenting on sites they don’t even like… right? Right…? Please tell me I’m right, Mr. 3rdPartyLova.

    4. Pls tell me the language in the first video,Sounds very sweet and funky at the same time.And how can I find the video in Youtube since it appears to be titled in Cyrillic.

    1. Looks like this troll still hasn’t got over the fact his mother wasn’t a respectable woman. Sort of explains why he chooses to remain emotionally and mentally at around the age of 6 or so.

      1. Or maybe this was a Fruedian slip from his days of walking in on Mommy Dearest. Who’s that mummy? Is it daddy? No dear, but they can be.

      2. It probably wasn’t intentional. Just some monkey with a typewriter/keyboard. It could happen.

    2. Dude . . duuude . . kratom is good shit. Seriously it will open your mind. You’re stuck right now. Get some kratom and come back in awhile. You’ll make chicken salad of the internet, not just this site. It will all become clear. Try it. Grab your balls and go for a real ride.

    3. That’s not a .gif of getting teabagged. So your description is not even correct.
      Try harder.

  15. Easier said than done, unless you’re willing to homeschool your daughter everyday of the year, isolate her from other children and make sure she never switches on the TV and god forbid fall on the Kardashian show. This article raises a good point which leads to a dilemma. Mr Hessel gives good advice, only applying it could very possibly get you prosecuted (would put money on it) by the establishment with some bogus charge like child neglect. You will be portrayed as a family tyrant and your daughter will be turned against you and end up resenting you for the rest of her life. I’m afraid that if you’re going to have a daughter the best solution would be to leave for a more traditional country or if you can’t at least get as far away from the cities as possible.

    1. This is a very depressing outlook and frankly one that is not grounded in real life. I’m not denying negative influence is rampant. But a strong familial bond can go a long way in forming a productive daughter and future wife material.I am an out and out city girl. My father is my idol.He busted his arse working and providing for his beloved family.And he raised me and my siblings right.I turned out to be a productive girl, never indulging in hedonism of any sort.

      1. Depressing outlook?
        Yes, very much so but that’s not my doing.
        Not grounded in real life?
        Mention the points made in this article to your female acquaintances (and liberal males). Would be surprised if you don’t end up marginalised or physically assaulted.
        negative influence is rampant? That’s an understatement. Turn on your TV or listen to what Madeleine Albright (a public figure)had to say this week. The influence is not just negative, it’s also irrational and dangerous.
        I don’t hate women sweetheart and If what you say about yourself is true then that’s admirable and commendable, but i’m afraid yours is a minority and a dying breed.
        Sincerely

      2. You’re not a man, so you can’t view things in the same perspective.
        Remember that men are the ones that pursue women, and in the end discover the types of women available in doing so. It’s looking pretty bad.
        Personal experience tells me this article is highly realistic. Also knowing cultures outside the USA is highly enlightening.

    2. The only answer to me is to GTFO and raise a family abroad. But I don’t want a family that bad (at this point anyway).

      1. Other countries are starting to westernize. We either make a stand here at home or else that’s it.

        1. I would love to do that, but honestly, that point has come and gone. Look at the hysteria at the ROK meetups and tell me you can honestly work with a culture that dishonest, immoral, and insane. The founding fathers of America knew that sometimes it’s best to just leave all the bullshit behind, and start over from scratch. I’d work towards a “better America” if I thought it would pay off, but I’m not going to futilely white knight for an entire nation of degenerates.

        2. Then help destroy it. As long as America stands in its current condition then it is only a matter of time til the degeneracy spreads everywhere.

  16. Good luck with with this.
    I’ve raised a daughter. Knowing that the culture and her peers would exert enormous influence against my teaching these very principles, I pulled her and her and my son out of the public indoctrination system and home schooled them, with a strong christian moralidy. I taught and reinforced nearly every one of these 10 points. The problem is, her lazy no-good mother was too cowardly to stand up to the typical teen rebellion and fly-the-coop mentality of early adulthood. That women is now my ex.
    Select your wife, the mother of you children very carefully, as most will cave in to their kids desires rather that parent from a position of strong conviction and grounding in the fundamentals of good character and respectable behavior.
    Fortunately, my daughter survived the trials of her early rebellion and now is a responsible, independent adult. Has been since the age of 18 — a real accomplishment. Now that she’s 21, she’s found the man that she could/should marry, but is resisting my advice to lock that man down and start her family before she hits her wall in a few years. Hopefully, when she returns from her 2nd tour in Tokyo as a professional Disney princess (she’s a natural beauty), she’ll listen to her old man and settle down.
    So fellas, the job to teach and train your daughters is a lifelong one. They may hear you, understand you, and even agree with you. But they’er always victims to their emotions and feelings at any given time and need a strong masculine father with patriarchal ideals to keep her compass pointing north.
    A father’s job is never done.

    1. Bahaha, I feel bad for your daughter. You sound like an awful father and I’m not surprised she got away that far from you.
      “locking that man down”?? Seriously? You don’t have children to lock people down, you have children because you want them and will love them.
      You don’t seem to have much love for your child since you consider that her only value is to reproduce before “she hits her wall”, whatever that means. She is a human being, not a cow.
      What you call caving to a child’s desire is actually respecting their choice and not suffocate them with what you think their life should be. You don’t own your children and you’re supposed to love them unconditionally. That typical rebellion and cry for freedom was probably her trying to escape your oppression.
      I wish the best to your daughter, I know it won’t be easy with a father who is nothing less than a bully and who tries to pass that ugly and cowardly trait for tradition and Christianity. Hopefully she can meet someone great of her choice, lead the life she chose and stay away from you.
      At least your wife must be in a better place in life now that she is rid of you.

      1. Sounds to me like he’s a good father. You might not agree with his beliefs, but it is clear to me that he is trying to act in her best interests. May I ask whether you yourself are happily married…? Or whether you’re happy at all? (This may not need clarifying, as I don’t see why you’d be trolling this site if you were personally fulfilled.)

        1. I’m not trolling. I had a father like him and I can tell you that no matter how he justifies it, he is not a good father. He does not see his daughter as a human being with a will of her own and clearly does not respect her choices.
          Plus he calls himself a Christian and insults the woman who bore his children?
          My father wanted me to fit into a role he had defined for me, and did not care at all about my own wishes. My childhood and adolescence were a nightmare, I felt suffocated and bullied.
          I have never been happier than the day I left to study and got the chance to do a few years abroad. My father disapproved of my choice of degree. I did it anyway and never regretted it. I speak now 3 languages, am well traveled (which he disapproved of as well as he could not control what I was doing) and I have now a well-paid job. I enjoyed dating and single life and I finally met the man of my dreams and married him.
          I barely even talk to my father now and although it has been difficult at times, I know I have made the right choice. Relatives or not, some people will always just be a constant nuisance in your life.

        2. So what you’re saying is your father did such a poor job of raising you that you were able to successfuly travel the world, learn languages, have a career, and get married…?
          What a monster he must have been.

        3. Just what the world needs….a woman’s opinion on how to be a father smh

        4. I don’t have my father to thank for my success. He constantly opposed my choices: my choice of degree, my choice of traveling, my choice of job and my choice of husband, although the man I married is a wonderful and kind person who has been a great support to me. My father is convinced that he will always know better and that without him I am nothing. I am very glad he didn’t manage to break my spirit because he really tried hard to. He disagreed and tried to sabotage every major decision I took in my life. I have made mistakes of course, who doesn’t? And at least they were my learning process. But as to choices of life partner, career and country, I am very happy with where I am now.
          A real man does not need to dominate to make a point, does not need to crush people to be right. A man comfortable in his masculinity does not feel threatened by other people’s choices and will know that respect is earned, not demanded.

        5. I’m going to ignore how you’re probably just ignoring any good your father ever did for you and that you could have had a way worse upbringing. But I am curious: plans for the future?

        6. Well let’s see what my dad did good for me:bully and physically and emotionally humiliate me up everytime I was not meek and obedient? Constantly tell me that I know nothing and he knows better? Yup, definitely helped with my development.
          Oh right, he did feed and clothes me when I needed, because of course it’s not a parent’s duty to ensure that the child they brought into the world is nurtured. A child should be on their knees thanking the gods that their parent is actually looking after them.
          My plans for the future are simple: continue being happy, buying a house and having children with my husband. Be good parents. Keep traveling when we get the chance.

        7. So you’re telling me you’d be the same place you are today if your father treated you like a little princess? I have a feeling you wouldn’t.
          My father went through a particularly difficult upbringing, and he became a better man because of it.

        8. So, to simplify things, your father did exactly as this article suggested and you went on to lead a good and happy life?
          Thanks for the endorsement, FF. You might be upset that your father wasn’t a pushover who told you about girl power, and actually stated the literal, uncontestable fact that he knows more about the world than you do… but ultimately you ended up at exactly where this article wants women to end up: of breeding age and happily married.
          Not to mention the world is way more toxic than it used to be, so maybe harsher methods are now needed.

        9. This is irrelevant. Although there is nowhere and no one else I would rather be now, that does not mean that my upbringing had to be like that.
          I am one of the lucky ones who are in a better situation now than they were. Many don’t have that chance though.

        10. That’s the problem with people today. They see all hardship as some irreconcilable wrong that they needn’t endure, when in reality it’s required to build character. The trouble with modern parents is that they’re all raising children with limp wrists rather than stern hands.

        11. “…does not mean that my upbringing had to be like that.”
          How do you know this? How can you prove it? How do you know that you would’ve had the conviction and strength to live overseas if it wasn’t for your father and wouldn’t have ended up as a less dynamic, less challenged individual.
          You might be able hypothesize some idealized version of reality where you go through a perfectly enjoyable childhood, adolescence etc. but that’s not reality.
          It is the bad shit in life that makes people.
          As your father would probably say, stop being so damn ungrateful. The fact that you dare to bring up Christianity when you’re not following the basic tenet of “Honor they mother and father” shows you’re a joke.
          If you are perfectly happy with were you are then you have to (by a logical analysis of probability and statistics) accept whole heartedly what has gone before. Good or bad.

        12. Not irrelevant at all, and in fact it’s a valid question. So I’ll ask again: “Are you telling me you’d be the same place you are today if your father treated you like a little princess? “

        13. I understand now why you are unhappy. It must be terrible not to have your father’s approval.

        14. You cannot be serious? So he was right to have treated me like shit? If someone cannot teach values to their children without bullying them, they don’t deserve to be parent because they don’t know how to be one. I could have been at the exact same place having been nurtured and respected. Most of my female friends have kind and good parents and they settled down way before I did and enjoy happy relationships. It is lucky I didn’t go haywire actually. And this article has got archaic views on women but there is no point going into this here.

        15. Well do you know the future? Me neither. My father could have respected me and my choices, my love of travels, my thirst for knowledge and encourage me and I would probably be the same person, not the one who went through years of self-doubts, and self-loathing. I still struggle with my self-confidence thanks to him.
          Plus he could get to know his future grand-children, which he won’t. None of his sons and daughters will talk to him now.

        16. When a woman, or a man, tells me that their parents treat them like shit, I really don’t give them much credit. So unless you can give me an example of these terrible events, I’m just gonna assume that you’re overstating things and that you were basically raised in an ordinary household.

        17. I’m not a Christian, I am not religious at all actually. But you seem to forget that honoring your partner in life is one of the Bible teaching. So, who is the joke now?

        18. Let me hit you back with: “Two wrongs don’t make a right.”
          You… you are still the joke.

        19. Well one example among the oh-so many: I arrived for breakfast at 6.36AM instead of 6.35am and was berated and threatened for 20 min. Or how about that time he beat the shit out of me with a wooden stick because I dropped something in the bathroom and woke him up, or how about that time I was deprived of food for spilling some water. Yeah you guys really live in your own little fairy princess world…

        20. And where is that exactly? Men are to love their wives as Christ loves the Church. Women are to submit to their husbands. If the woman won’t submit, the man has the right to correct her.

        21. That’s the problem now, people who have zero compassion and humanity. Being beaten and bullied is not normal, guys. And anyone who uses his fists to educate is simply a coward.

        25. There she goes again , she is well traveled guys. Bow down to her high value. She didn’t like her father giving her goodwill advice and now acts like that is a bad thing and even stopped contact with him. There you go guys , the appreciation you get for raising a child and caring for her future.

        26. Actually my first souvenir of my dad is him bringing me back from kindergarten and terrorizing me with a massive meltdown because I had taken off my cardigan while playing. Here is a memory I will treasure for the rest of my life 🙂

        27. Let me preface this by saying, “your father was abusive and that sucks for you. Truly.”
          But in what world does that give you the right to come on here and judge a man who (to your knowledge) does not beat his daughter up with a stick?
          Nor does this article encourage bullying in any form. You clearly have unresolved issues with your father, rightfully so, but you’re here taking out your anger for him on men you don’t even know. That is childish and pathetic.
          The reason the men here don’t take you seriously is because:
          You complain he shouldn’t tell his daughter to lock someone down while she’s young–and then lament that your friends got married younger than you did.
          You say that you’re perfectly happy–and then admit to self esteem issues.
          You say that the girl should want to rebel and sleep with lots of guys–when in reality the end game for you, and clearly many other women, is just to find a good man who will be a good father and husband. Rebelling is not required. Promiscuity is not required. That’s just an attempt to have your cake and eat it too. And, in the eyes of any man with sense, would make you a very unlikely choice for a wife.
          I say again. This article does not tell men to abuse their children, nor does the commentator you originally replied to. This article is about raising your daughter with decency and respect, while practicing decency and respect.
          Now go spend some time with your goddamn husband and stop trolling.

        28. Sure, says the guy who is still happily using all the stuff that modern science brought him.

        29. While i’m sure that it’s terrible not to have your father’s approval , i’m not convinced that what he wanted for her was bad. She just chose differently and happened to be lucky and be the right choice. Doesn’t mean his was wrong though , nor does it mean that he deserved banishment for having a different opinion. My parents had a different opinion for my life than mine , i never banished them from life for that. Dunno , seems a bit harsh.
          Edit : i know a 40 year old woman that banished her mother from her life for not aggreing with her. That’s right , not aggreing with anything and everything get you a one way ticket to banishment alley nowadays.

        30. And using the internet invalidates these truths how? 2+2=4 no matter if I write it with my finger in the mud or us a holographic projector. That’s a pretty weak argument there, sister.

        31. Look at her response. He didn’t enforce anything on her , he didn’t abuse her mentally or phsically , he just opposed her choices. So she banished him for dissagreing. And she feels morally superior for that. That’s what this society is going towards. You can’t tell your kid not to shit on the neighboor’s lawn because you’re opressing him guys ! But muh feelz..

        32. Plus, you’re the one who tried to quote Scripture. I guess that means you’re living in the 18th century too. Probably a butch teamstress like Calamity Jane

        33. At what point did I lament that my girlfriends married young? Till I met my now husband, I had no intention to get married or raise a family actually.
          You say that the girl should want to rebel and sleep with lots of guys–“”
          ==> Prove that, where did I say it?
          You guys don’t understand that a woman is not half a being who have to submit to a man. I understand however that your views are super outdated so there is no point dwelling on them, we would never agree.
          Of course I have self-esteem issues, that does not prevent me from being happy. No one on this planet is 100% happy, we all have hang ups.
          Sure I have issues with my father but I can see echos of him in the OP. It’s all about him and what he wants his daughter to be. He also disrespect the mother of his children. If he did such a good job, I question the reason why she left to work so far away (twice) especially in a job she could do in the same country.
          I was not trolling, you call trolling anyone who disagrees with you obviously.
          Anyway, I thank you for the interest you show my husband (a bit weird but whatever) and bid you good day.

        34. Why would that be terrible? Can’t you stand on your own 2 feet like a well balanced adult? Aaawww

        35. Yeah shame that the beating and humiliation in the name of God didn’t teach me respect. Sigh.
          Very strange that out of 4 children (2 boys and 2 girls), no one wants anything to do with him now.

        36. Well you didn’t tell us the whole story didn’t you ? If you father is as bad as you say he is , ok , i feel sorry for you , truly. But that doesn’t mean what we are advocating here is the same treatment. There is a huge line between enforcing and abusing someone , and give her a little guidance in life and wisdom words. Don’t try to put words in our mouths saying that we’re the same.

        37. *SIGH*
          These comments are always so formulaic. Always about personal issues, always broken down into “me” “you” and “feelings”, always instead of clarifying a point or discussing an idea, it’s “Where did I ever say that!?”
          I don’t care what an anonymous quoted post said or didn’t say. Obviously it wasn’t clear or else people wouldn’t be confused or questioning it. Make an intelligent argument or GTFO.

        38. Quote you, “Most of my female friends have kind and good parents and they settled down way before I did and enjoy happy relationships. It is lucky I didn’t go haywire actually.”
          (I’m reading between the lines.)
          The slut thing was based on, “I enjoyed single life and dating.” And, now, “I never had any intention of getting married or raising a family.” These indicate you would have kept to a lifestyle that primarily involves hollow sex.
          You’re wrong, I can be convinced of absolutely anything provided there’s facts and logic to back the argument. But you’ve lost all credibility (if you had any) in my eyes. Frankly I’m not even sure you had an argument, you just came here to express resentment towards your abusive father. But this isn’t a shrink clinic and your problems are only going to get worse by bringing them up to a completely unsympathetic audience.

        39. That’s what she doesn’t fucking get. She wants to blame us for what her father did instead of sacking up and blaming him.

        40. No one on this site considers what you’ve done success. What did you invent? What creation in this world is yours that has made this world a better place? How many lives have you saved? What new species have you discovered? What business have you built? If non, what is your contribution to society?
          If non of those things, have you at least used the money you’ve made from your job to raise a happy, healthy, well adjusted family?
          If non of those things at all, then the travel, the languages, the job and the money is just a form of masturbation that allows you to brag and feel good about yourself. And most of your friends and social circle tell you it’s great. You’re simply a hedonist living life for enjoyment and nothing else. Maybe there’s more to life than that. If you ever find out it will probably be too late.
          This is a small community of men whom don’t think it’s great and you will not convince them that it is great.

        41. The bible says that women should be “silent” in church and submissive to their husbands. It says that if women have a question or comment about the church, they should wait until they are home with their husband and ask him in privacy. That is how much Christianity believes men should be the leaders. If you need me to look up the book and verse for you, I can. Just let me know. I’m sure you don’t really care though.
          Don’t try to throw Christianity back in the face of men on a masculine website. It’s a religion completely against all tenants of feminists and the churches that support feminism quite literally and purposefully skip every verse in the bible that modern feminists would abhor and just don’t talk about them. Just like the Catholic church is now conforming to current western culture to attempt to boost it’s attendance and cash. For those churches, it’s all about getting people in the pews at all costs.
          Honoring your partner as a Christian would see it, and I mean one whom actually reads their bible and tries not to overlook uncomfortable verse, does not mean the husband and wife treat each other exactly the same. It means the husband treat’s his wife one way, and the wife her husband another. It does mean they both look out for the other’s best interest, within the context of the man being head of household. So if there is dissagreement, the husband should whole heartedly and earnestly listen to his wife’s point of view. But if she can’t sway him with logic and reason, then he needs to make a decision based on logic and reason. If she attempts to sway him with emotion, which is most common in women, the husband still needs to make a decision based on logic and reason.
          This is the primary reason husbands are head of household. Even in families where the wife happens to be smarter (higher IQ), the husband tends to think more logically and rationally and women tend to let emotions dominate them.
          Hence, why you are here babbling so much. Emotions. You have bad memories of your childhood and thus can’t help but come here and say, “my daddy was bad because he made me feel bad. And if I felt bad, that’s all that matters, it must have been bad. So you guys are bad because you are reminding me of it. Bad guys, bad you!”
          You didn’t have it that bad. Did your dad beat you? Did he rape you? Oh, he told you that you weren’t acting like a lady when he disagreed with your behavior. Oh, that’s right, you fealt “bullied.” Oh, we here all feel so sorry for you. We’re so glad you found a man to settle down with you and not ask how many guys you fucked over your lifetime of study, travel and career and to be okay with getting one or two kids out of you that he’ll have to do as much of the raising of as you will. Lucky him, to have rescued you from the evils of your father.

        44. If your father was mean, he probably would have been mean no matter what reality he ascribed to and no matter what belief system he held. Every man can try to teach his beliefs to children in a mean way, or a nice way. That is based on his temperament and not what he believes.
          Hence, why ever society has good people and evil people. So, if every child in your family won’t talk to you dad, he probably was a grade A asshole. Those people exists in feminist households, christian households, atheist household, islamic households etc…
          It has nothing to do with his belief system. Probably no body is good enough to make him happy. Now if what you said isn’t true and he has great relationships with some of his kids than this may be a different story.

        45. your father will never forgive you, he hates you, tell him to forgive you or you’ll live miserable for the rest of your life, don’t be shy, ask for forgiveness

        46. Again, this has nothing to do with your fathers belief system and probably everything to do with him being an asshole who happened to hold that belief system.
          You said it, “So he was right to have treated me like shit? If someone cannot teach values to their children without bullying them, they don’t deserve to be parent because they don’t know how to be one.”
          He should have taught you his beliefs without bullying you. That doesn’t logically make his belief’s wrong. But I can see how the bullying would make a child and a women distrustful of the beliefs associated with it.

        47. Berated for 20 minutes. Don’t care. (Plus, were you late all the time, or was that the first time? Have you never been late for a job interview? Maybe dad’s assholedness paid off there if you haven’t.)
          Beat the shit out of. If this actually happened your dad was horrible. That still doesn’t mean the beliefs he held were wrong. Just that he was a bad person. Don’t associate him with everyone here. No one here is your father. If anyone here were ever convicted of beating their children or any child, I’m sure the community would renounce that person immediately. This is an abomination of humanity.
          Deprived of food for spilling water. For how long? Whether or not this is extreme depends on how long it was for. It’s a little over the top either way as spilling water isn’t that big of a deal. But here’s the question. Did he perceive your spilling of the water as on purpose on on accident? And then, how long were you deprived of food? For just one meal, a whole day, or longer than a whole day?

        48. You making shit up. You a women’s pulp writer. You’re too smooth with the rant. You’re a propagandist fem/writer. I know it when I see it cuz I’m one on the man’s side.

        49. Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we start to deceive … **ourselves**!!
          Don’t fool yourself, kiddo. You’re not happy. You’re a walking fucking cliché. As a matter of fact, you’re miserable and empty inside. “Gee, who is this guy, Nostradamus?? the NSA??” Neither.
          You see, all that’s flowing and pulsating through your posts is deep-seated anger, resentment, and contempt. You don’t notice it, because it’s like your oxygen. Anyhoo … Anyhoo, people who are truly content, fulfilled, happy, and living in harmony within and without … would not go posting pathetic and angry contrarian views on sites they’re diametrically opposed to ideologically. It’s a no-brainer. No, you’re not happy. You’re just another one of those bitter feminazi cunts who deep down knows that you’ve swallowed a lie, but can’t bring yourself to admit it.

        50. Listen, you miserable cunt: get a therapist. This isn’t your free therapy session, you moron. We’re not here to solve your fucking “daddy issues.” Here’s a thought: shit happens. Ya, shit happens. Some people have loving parents, and others end up with psychopathic one.
          Get over it. Quit whining like some whiny cunt. And get a fucking therapist to resolve your daddy complexes.

        51. She’s just a bitter resentful cunt with daddy issues … it’s patently transparent.
          Here’s a cardinal rule in Life: Just as badasses don’t go around claiming they’re motherfucking badasses, and cool cats don’t tell others how cool they are … truly happy people *never* go around telling others how happy they are”

        52. Get a fucking therapist!!! Holy fuck me … enough of your unresolved fucking daddy issues, you pathetic and weak creature. My daddy used to beat my brothers and I with shovels and 2by4’s when we acted like a bunch of fucking sissies and punks, while mom stood there with an approving glee, knowing it was for our good.
          I’m **infinitely** grateful for it. My brothers are grateful for it … for the no-fucking-nonsense, motherfucking double-fisted, skull-crushing child rearing and upbringing. I’m infinitely grateful for my parent’s badassery.
          You see? Get over it. Move on. Stop your whining and fucking nagging.

        53. February Flower , maybe i am the only one , but i don’t understand what you want from us. You repeat the same thing over and over again about your father being cruel. And we agree with you , he was cruel. What does that have to do with us ? This article projected that image in you , but it is not correct. Nobody here is preaching abuse , not morally and not physically. It is just guidance. It is only you that perceives it as wrong and oppressive. If i tell my best friend that he should stop drinking his 8’th beer because it makes him behave weird , am i oppressing him ?

        55. THAT is not a real man, that is the beta male you latched onto that will tell you every idea that flows through your emotional filter is “wonderful, honey”. Respect is something you give to people until they prove otherwise, not the other way around. This is why you come off bitter and wounded.

        58. “I’m not trolling. I had a father like him and I can tell you that no matter how he justifies it, he is not a good father. He does not see his daughter as a human being with a will of her own and clearly does not respect her choices.” I think this is part of a major dichotomy that separates irrational Emotional Justice Warriors from everyone else (no matter how irrational other philosophies are), while most people would stop a suicide attempt, EJW’s would just say “good luck” and walk away. He never said he doesn’t respect her choices, he just urges her to make better ones.
          “My father disapproved of my choice of degree.” Le me guess? Gender Studies? Or Cock-Carouselology
          “I speak now 3 languages, am well traveled (which he disapproved of as well as he could not control what I was doing) and I have now a well-paid job.” You keep claiming this, yet you can’t point out what you do, what languages you speak, or where you have been… Please stop trolling because:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8QE4-BEy4E

        61. I don’t care where she’s been. That’s not an accomplishment. I don’t even care what she does or what languages she speaks , and i don’t care because of her judging attitude the she displays here. She barged in accusing the OP and others here that we support abuse just because her father was abusive. She projected her hate for men here , so for all i care , she could be the queen of England and still i would have the same opinion of her … entitled and disrespectful.

        63. She wants whine and let everyone know how she feels, that is what she wants consciously and/or subconsciously

        64. Did I just read that right; you have so much hatred for your father that you will deny him a relationship with his grandchildren?

        66. You nailed it. All that needs to be said really. Now can we just move on and stop responding to this obviously and deeply scarred women and get on with the the business of discussing our daughters. Mine is 15 and I’m running out of time. Although she is a model daughter and the light of my life, I spend many sleepnless nights worrying about the right way to raise her so that she finds true happiness. She holds many of the “progressive” views that I fear will lead her to a pink hair and tattoos. I honestly find myself conflicted by what I want for her which is at the source of my indecisiveness. She is beautiful, brilliant and determined and I feel she should be given the same opportunities as her brother, yet at the same time I break out into cold sweats thinking about her at a slut walk or turning out to be a SJW. The advice above is definitely a good start, but rather than wasting your breath on the lost soul of the winter posie above (even her screen name screams psychopathology), throw a little of that sagacity my my. She can’t be saved but there is still hope for my baby girl to turn out to be neither another pathetic February flower nor a teen bride popping out 5 kids before 25. There’s gotta be a better path!!!

        67. I sympathize with you, and understand your situation. Amazingly, I once heard someone say something extraordinarily wise during her daughter’s volleyball match: the daughter was about the age of yours, slightly older at 16, and she was involved in many extra-curricular activities: volleyball, swimming team, after school volunteering. Anyway, the mom said that she deliberately tried to keep her daughter in all these activities that nurtured discipline and teamwork, even though it was a hassle with all the driving to practices, games, tournaments … because it kept the teenage daughter occupied, along with school work, with no time left for pursuits that would put a smile on the Devil’s face.
          Thus, idle hands are the Devil’s playground, and the only practical and realistic antidote, in our current degenerate era, is to somehow coax the young miss into such activities, and encourage her to excel, so that she dedicates an inordinate amount of time on something positive (basketball league, football/soccer at a select level, ice skating, etc etc). Most teens are led astray because they have too much free time. The “trick” is to channel that available time to something positive, and something they enjoy. As you have alluded, neither negative reinforcement i.e. fear of punishment, nor a laissez-faire approach work; actually both lead to catastrophic results in our modern age. I grew up in the era of “spare the rod, spoil the child”, so the “rod” always kept us in check … highly doubtful that will work today!

        68. Well the worst she stated about him was that he disapproved of her degree choice. My father has disagreed with me on career choices before (what father doesn’t?) but we hardly fell out about it. Sounds like the problem is her.

        69. She wants attention. Nothing more, nothing less…someone, anyone to pay attention to her and make her feel as if she’s important if only for a moment.

        70. jason u are nothing but a loser for being on this shit site reading articles like this and you know it. This isn’t 1850 kid we have new ideals. if you like men so much go shove a dik up ur ass . Possibly you being on this site is your unconscious telling you you like to be around other men a little too much.

        72. If the poster here was a male describing his mother I’m sure you would say she was a suffocating feminist cunt.

        74. Get off my dick, ya mangina. I’d actually have even less sympathy for a man who was complaining about a bullying mother.
          The problem is–a problem you will always have–is that you’re just not smart. You’re just not intelligent. You’re a walking meat golem.

        75. It’s so tiresome that people here dismiss everything a woman says as wanting ‘attention’. Talk about hive mind.

        77. It’s so tiresome that people here dismiss everything a woman says as wanting ‘attention’.
          Probably because it’s true. If you want ‘understanding’ and ‘sympathy’ go to Jezebel.

        78. What is really the basis of a feminazi’s (best term that I have ever heard to describe them, look up what the Nazis did and how they accomplished it; you’ll agree.) argument is “if it causes pain, then it cannot be good,” this is the basis for “pathological altruism,”where, if it makes someone feel good, then it is good, no matter the actual outcome. Conversely, if it makes someone feel bad, it is bad, no matter the outcome. Converse logic always seems right, but is only sometimes right. Bad experience includes pain, conversely, pain must make an experience bad, no mater how positive the outcome is. This fallacy hidden in its “natural sense” then is used to further justify the ludicrous leftist idea of the negative “patriarchy.” It is evil because, it makes women feel bad. It is natural for men to know that some growth, as a human being, requires pain and not just hearing or doing what makes you feel good, “no pain, no gain.” Men have built societies because they have understood that, pain now, leads to a better tomorrow. Women and feminist in particular still believe in the fantasy of Utopia, “if only men were not standing in their way, insisting that they pay for their entrance into the culture/society, they would be living their perfect life.”

        1. Sure, having studied what I wanted to study, traveled around, learnt different languages, get a well-paid job and marry the man of my choice was definitely was a terrible failure. XD

        3. True happiness comes from within.
          Are you trying to convince me how happy you are or yourself?

        4. Sure Laozi. I suppose that since you claim that I am an unhappy person although you know nothing about me means that deep down you’re the unhappy one and are projecting your lack of joy in the hope that other people can relate?

        5. Jealous, aren’t you? 🙂 But eh, if you drop the attitude, you may find a woman who will want you without her charging you by the hour.

        7. Waaaaah mate. She traveled around mate. Please respect that acomplishment , it’s extremely hard to board a plane.

        8. One principle i have since i was little. If you have to boast about something that you have , you don’t have it. Also , did you seriously list traveling as an acomplishment ? Lol , anybody can board a plane. Goes to show about your narcissistic impression about yourself. Get off your high horse dear February Flower.

        9. The reason people assume you’re unhappy is because you’re on here (talking to a readership that doesn’t really like you) trying to convince them that you’re happy. We’re here because we like to read the articles. You’re here purely out of spite. This isn’t typically something a happy person engages in.

        10. That’s what i said to her also. She doesn’t seem to understand that we see right through her , we don’t need to assume , she exposes herself for us. It’s like i hurt my toe on a table and i repeat to everybody ”i’m not hurt i’m not hurt i’m not hurt” , but they see my inflated toe. Lol.

        11. You are offensive to the good-will establishment of prostitution. Those are honorable women that actually admit that they trade sex for money. Seriously , i’m not even trolling , i respect them more than a woman that acts like she is the entry ticket to heaven but still expects that you pay her meals in the restaurant and the taxi home , which frankly is more expensive than a prostitute. So yeah…
          Edit : also , funny how you act high , mighty and above other women with your judgemental attitude towards prostitutes that you seem to think they hold some intrinsic lower value than yours because what ? you traveled ? we get it.

        13. EB, I’ve debated with feminists since the times when Internet was conducted over dial up lines.
          Over all those years, every feminist I have debated with have been either housewives with delusions of grandeur (I am NOT making this up. They are bored at home and spoiled/lazy and want to feel more important and feminist debate online is their cheap thrill like watching soap operas.)
          The other are the total fakers. Women who pretend like they’re some big CEO or traveling businesswoman with a dozen lovers and so pretty and important and mocking men’s forums because they aren’t getting ANY attention they crave. I find it amusing that they’re such huge rape hysteria chicken-littles when they clearly are crying for attention from men.
          In other words, take their claims with a grain of salt.
          That’s not to say that there aren’t professional feminists. They are the lucky ones who manage to win the lottery and use their women’s studies degree to land a job at a university for a cushy paycheck and marry some beta wimp male and write up this nonsense BUT they don’t talk to us. In fact, they block comments on their articles when possible. They write this junk for a living and don’t want to bother communicating with men.
          The vast majority of women’s studies majors go onto quiet careers in Human Resources or other stuff that gives us nightmares or more often than not, become waitresses. They often get married and drop their feminist silliness.

        14. As a friend of this forum, I see a conflict between wanting women to be chaste and family minded while many of the articles encourage men to be PUA’s trolling bars and clubs or seducing normal, healthy women for one night stands.
          The bottom line is that normal, healthy women crave that free meal but won’t sleep around for it. They won’t expect it to be expensive and will be happy to go on activity dates (tennis, minigolf, etc.)

        15. Another common faux feminist claim “YOUUU can’t get a woman of your OWWWWNNNNN!”
          ALL women charge by the hour.

        16. The ones like her charge more , because they think they are more important and worthy. Also she acts like getting a woman of our own is our supreme calling in life. I’m sorry sweetheart , you came to the wrong place , this is not “Return of Beta the woman-pedestalizer-cuck” , read the title , it’s RETURN OF KINGS. Go sell your perceived self-worth elsewhere February Flower.

        17. Thing is , the women hold the sexual market. Even many years before i even knew there was a manosphere , i held the opinion that if a woman cheats , she is the sole responsible and never the one that came on to her. When my long term girlfriend cheated on me , my friends said to go after the male , i asked why ? it’s not his fault , he probably didn’t even knew.
          What i mean is , it’s our duty to try , it’s their choice if they accept or not. The chaste women and the one-night stand ones are never the same one and never inter-changeable.
          About the last part , yeah women crave free meals , but an intelligent human being , be it man or woman , should know that there’s no such thing as free in this world and abstain for accepting free stuff if they are not prepared. Thing is they take advantage of that , they want the free meal and the free ticket of not giving anything in return.

        18. Yes, 120 cocks later. Have you really, really been honest with this “man of your choice” about how many previous cocks you really had. Most likely not, even to yourself. How many children do you have now? What? Zero? Thought so. But those nights and weekends at the office sure are meaningful, aren’t they?

        19. Didn’t you see, she has an important job in an office. Where she gets to pretend she’s a man. That’s way more better than a prostitute. (sarc.)

        20. Why haven’t you rolled out the “basement dweller” trope? You’ve used many of the other usual cliches. Or maybe I haven’t read far enough into the moments yet.

        21. It’s pretty much complaining about her father and trying to put the blame on us , all men are abusive assholes because her father was an abusive asshole.

        22. This is perhaps the best rebuttal I’ve read on reconciling the contradiction between being a player and wanting chaste women. However, keep in mind that even the sluttiest chick running around was once a virgin.

        23. There’s a lot to grok there so in the interests of going after the most salient issue, I’ll focus on that. Jz95 says you’ve rebutted my observation of the contraction between being a player and lamenting a shortage of chaste women. Simply saying “it’s your duty to try” and that’s how the culture is so why not join in illustrates that the PUA aspect of RoK is part of the problem and not the solution. A recent article here criticized men for masturbating rather than going out and trying to bang sluts (or turn nice girls into sluts.) Instead, masturbating AND becoming more worldly and THEN finding a chaste woman and settling down is a net “plus” for everyone.
          When I grew up, there was a shame around masturbation and prostitution and much of that is reflected here and combined with a culture that encourages men to relieve their sexual stress, it’s no wonder that women have the power. It’s like going out and buying a Hummer (pardon the pun) and then wondering why you spend so much money on gas. Going to bars and clubs is like trying to get laid with dollar bills at a strip club. I’m glad that I recognized as a young man what a total waste those places are.
          FYI, I’m an expecting father (2 months now) of a daughter. What I’m thinking after living life and reading this forum is that I would suggest she avoid “players” at all costs. They’re untrustworthy by definition because even if they are ready to “settle down”, that’s a line they could feed them to get laid. A beta male, even a white knight, is someone she at least knows will probably stick around. I would suggest she avoid the meal-whore paradigm not just because of morality but because the players don’t want to spend time in a traditional courtship, without sex, that doesn’t involve throwing money at her for a quick lay. I often read here about how men here view time with meal-whores to be time wasted and I can appreciate that. It’s like working as a clown at Chuckee Cheese on tips. A good, chaste woman shouldn’t be someone who just keeps her legs shut, but also has other things to offer men and expect in return.
          All that said, I remember enjoying the club scene and stripclubs, briefly, simply as a tourist. It’s amusing to watch people act so foolishly like on reality TV. Men throwing away their paycheck for a lapdance. Players putting on an act and attention whores demonstrating astounding feats of vapid self-centeredness. It’s like the bar scene in Star Wars (the first film.)

        24. I’m not a great looking guy but I remember it wasn’t that difficult. It was like this animal mating dance. Ask a decent looking out (not too out of your league) and take her out for a fun activity date (dinner dates are the worst). Show her a good time. She associates enjoying herself with you. Then take her out for a moderately prices restaurant (she’ll be hungry). You order and don’t spend too much. Do a few more fun activities. Sometimes it’s the 3 date rule and sometimes it’s the 6 date rule but eventually, she knows she better “put out or get out” and you get laid.
          Then, after you get laid, you can leave, put her in the “rotation” (as Dawson Stone would put it), or even move forward with a relationship. If you had to fib a bit (pretend to have a better job than you really do or rent a car) then it may be best to just get a few more lays and move on before she realizes she’s been had.
          In any case, this rather crocodilian way of dating is rare for most men who really do care about women (even as hypergamy encourages women to objectify men) but it happens quite a bit and women are shocked when it does. “He seemed to really like me and we had a great time but after a few months, he broke up? why?”
          It’s incredibly sad that men and women treat each other like this but “tradiitonal” dating in the USA is little better than sex escorts.

        25. Of course, we men realize that not ALL women are like “sex escorts”. The current culture is not a creation of men any more than it is entirely created by women.

        26. I can understand the conflict between these 2 common tenants of this site.
          While I think the goal of many men is ultimately to find a good woman to marry and have children with, this is at odds with our current society, where women are encouraged to turn away from femininity and similar virtues and delay marriage and kids. Since women are the gatekeepers of sex and men still want to get laid, the role of women in many of our lives has been relegated to nothing more than “sex object”, since that is now the only desirable quality they possess. Thus all the “how to have one night stands”, “get her into bed”.
          You mention “normal, healthy women”, I submit that women healthy in body and mind are a dying breed.

        27. Let me start by saying , congratulations on becoming a father man ! I wish unto you a beautiful healthy child.
          I understand your concern about raising a daughter. My brother-in-law has two daughters and he has the same fear that they will grow up and won’t know to distinguish between the players and the serious guys. I always asked myself why is there this innate fear in every father that his daughter will somehow become something he doesn’t want. I think it’s because we all know that we can’t control this outcome , whatever wisdom we would instill in them , nature is nature and attraction is attraction and they will still do what it feels right. They will forever choose the player. Let me continue by saying i am not a fan of PUA and i don’t do that , but i see the point in it. It’s either you game them or you remain sexless , so we can choose to be the ”greater men” and not potentially turn a good girl bad , or we can stand sexless by the sides watching as other ones turn them bad instead of us. Also this is a little bit of a blame shift. Why is it men that turn good girls bad ? It is themselves by accepting and looking for that. I like to think that they have the full capacity to make choices in life that would make them better as a whole and not worse , still they choose the latter and we feel guilty thinking that it’s our fault.

        28. Thank you for the compliment. I also pointed out on another article that Phillipino men chase as many women as possible all their lives , and when it comes to settling down , they marry a preferably virgin one or at least a very low count one. They differentiate these two classes of women. And why not ? Yeah the sluttiest one was a virgin sometime , but that’s in the past , her decisions that she made for herself altered the future impression that she gives out to people. And it all works out well , he gets the good faithful girl , she gets the experienced male , nobody loses , except for the ones that rode 20 gentlemen and become old maids or single mothers.

        29. The problem is encouraging promiscuity among males is that it gives the sluts the attention that all females desire; regular girls can see how the sluts get all the male attention, and, yearning for attention themselves, they feel all-the-more encouraged to become sluts too.

        30. Quite right. In fact, I usually slap down this feminist nonsense with young girls. And they accept it because they want a dominant male, not a househusband.
          And frankly, a high-flying female wouldn’t feel the need to brag about it. As Lord Tywin said ‘Any man who must say, “I am the king” is no true king.’

        32. Mate I just had to explain to a guy in the office why a “reformed” hooker was a bad choice. After all is there no chance for redemption? Redemption is for priests and God to decide.
          Anyway, this guy once came home to find his girlfriend banging another man. I said “brother haven’t you learned?”

        33. I actually cannot enjoy strip-clubs now. Filled with women taking your money and giving nothing in return. Where have I seen that before…?

        34. Which is why mens with the means and/or opporunity are going abroad in search of traditional women. Most of the American expats I know who are married with kids have non-western wives. That isn’t a coincidence.

        36. Yes but nobody can control the number of men that give them attention. So this basically translates that if you stop giving her attention , someone else will. You still lose in the end , well depending if you see that as a loss.

        37. What I mean when I say the sluttiest girl was once a virgin is this: More likely than not, you’re going to go out with (not necessarily relationship, I mean one or two dates and you realize you’re not compatible) several people in your life. In today’s sexual climate you’re expected to have sex ON THE FIRST DATE. That means a “good” girl can go on five dates with five different men, each time both partners believe they are not compatible with each other and part amicably, but the girl already has a notch count of five.

        38. You mean you married well into your 30ties because you were no longer hot enough for he bad boy cock carousel ? And the “man of your dreams” is some beta slug that you will divorce rape in a few years and leave broke for life. Yea we’ve heard it all before.

        40. When I went to one for the first time, it was exciting. I hadn’t seen a pretty woman before naked (in person) and it’s a shock. But I knew I was just one out of a hundred, horny guys and meant nothing to them which was also a wakeup call. I see this same concept in the clubs: When music is blasting at 80db, then either you’re a hot looking guy or you’re not.
          That’s not to say they weren’t fun to go to once, or twice, for eye candy but even after that, then what’s online beats them. At least online I don’t have this annoying DJ reminding me every 10 seconds to give them a tip.

        41. I’m amused that there was this stereotype of men bragging in locker rooms out of insecurity and I’m sure that does happen, but my wife tells me otherwise. Women lie and exaggerate their accomplishments all over the place while men are more likely to not want to get caught bragging because it’s embarassing. Men friends respect each other especially when we can be “real.”
          Young girls get into feminism in school kind of like if the state was handing out porno to young men. It’s a pornographic ideology: They get to be victims, irresponsible, entitled to everything they want, and someone else pays for everything. It’s crack.
          But then again, like young men of that age, they’re just stupid kids after all. A few (hopefully) get some stupid tattoos, sleep with someone they regret, and hopefully don’t get out with an untreatable VD or bastard child. Then they graduate and go out into the real world.
          For lower class women, there’s a kind of more penicious feminism out there in the form of the welfare state. They grew up poor and trashy and there’s no need for them to reject the feminism they know. They can sleep around with bad boys, get someone else to pay for it, and don’t need to re-evaluate their lives until they hit their later wall and by then, it’s too late.
          That’s where I think “red pill” men come in. At the sweet spot of 24 or so, many young women are salvagable.

        42. I think the problem with many fathers, of both boys and girls, is they don’t really think this stuff through. They push through it, do what it takes to get laid (or beg a woman for marriage/sex) and after they get married and have kids, they largely forget about all they went through and any lessons learned. After all, who wants to admit what schmoes we were and share lessons from that with our daughter or son?
          Also, many men are white knights or mommas boys and lack the ability to look at these issues from a detached viewpoint when educating their kids.
          My wife personally didn’t fall for players. She had a natural ability that many women lack. She took an active interest/job in finding a good man, she looked at substance over style, and thought to herself what this person would be like as a father.
          It sounds rather stupid, but young women are taught by society or the absence of role models to just “have fun” and blow their money they earn from work on designer bags and let them sit around waiting passively for luck to determine their fate. It’s scandalous really. And fathers rarely pass out PUA game or even just plain game.
          Here’s a fun story: My mother found a playboy under my bed. She told my father to crack open a beer and celebrate that I’m not gay and give me “the talk.” He then grabbed me and gave me a full lesson on all the stuff about women. How they can get knocked up and try to convince you that you’re the father of someone else’s kid. Or get a VD. How to have sex with you wife on the wedding night (get her drunk he advised.) OK, that one is outdated but it was a great lecture. One of the few I enjoyed and got the most out of ever.
          A lot of fathers just don’t have that talk with their daughter or they teach their daughters how to be ho’s.

        43. The whole slut paradigm is a product of “traditional” values of “white trash” of the late 19th century. In NYC and other cities, many poor families had small apartments and couldn’t host get-together dinners for daughters to court prospective husbands. Rather than being grilled by an insecure, white knight father, these dinners were meant to be like the scene in The Godfather where the prospective son-in-law would interact with the family and think about how well he’d fit in, flirt and talk to the daughter (under supervision), and develop a healthy relationship with his in-laws and girlfriend.
          Many men of low character wanted to take women out on the town, get them drunk and buy them swag, and then have sex with them and go. In Gone With the Wind, Rhett Butler is accused of being a scoundrel for taking a woman out on a date and not getting her home on time. It didn’t matter that nothing happened. He was expected to marry her because something COULD have happened and he refused.
          Meal whoring took off as middle class families loosened mores on casual sex in the 1920’s and beyond and this came to be seen as traditional. Simultaeously, the women disliked how this made men into “players” but they liked the goodies and attention.
          I intend to ask my daughter this question/challenge: Sure, if you’re going to sleep with a guy whose handsome and charming, that’s your choice but ask yourself if you can be happy with that in it’s own right. If he doesn’t call you again, ever, and he was just putting on an act, would you feel that you enjoyed it? I’d rather have a daughter who has had some sex than the frigid, inexperienced career women spinsters I met in their 30’s who had worked at a career for a decade, hadn’t thought about men, and got baby rabies but otherwise couldn’t handle sex or intimacy well.

        44. It’s funny that when I hit my 30’s, I joined a few dating services and had more than enough decent looking, professional women who would have considered me “out of their league” having to date me.
          These particular women did a great job hiding from men. They were professional and didn’t “club” or go to strip clubs, obviously, or the other places that PUA’s tend to surf. They also didn’t take public transportion. They went to work, bought groceries, and went home. They lacked the ability to flirt or engage in conversation openers (as obvious on the dates I went out with them on.)

        45. Holy shit that was an incredible response.
          That’s like when Harrison Ford shot the swordsman in Indiana jones.

        46. That’s an interesting point. The locker room drama you see on TV, with guys being bitchy to each other, is completely foreign to me. Most guys I train with are either quiet, making jokes or laughing at their own flaws.
          A braggart would be quickly found out and tossed out. No man can stand such a person.
          Women have evolved to be victims and have someone else solve their problems. Only today, they deny that they are damsels in distress while claiming victim-hood and wanting society at large to pay.

        47. I will say this though. The last time I went I got numbers from two of the strippers!
          LOL! I just can’t help myself…

        48. That begs a followup question: Did you call them? Were the numbers real? Did you bang ’em?

        49. Hehehe. I liken the genders to the machine paradigm of The Matrix: Humans have evolved to need machines. Yeah, we could live in the forest without technology but most of us don’t want to. So as human populations grew and the machines became more necessary for our survival, we make them more complex. Then when AI is created, we risk the machines deciding to take control.
          Men are kind of like machines that women birthed and mated with to become their superiors. Even as feminists wail against sexism that claims that men are better at nearly everything (except making babies and for sex, both pretty big things), most personally don’t want a man whose weaker than they are.
          When women became whiny dependants of the patriarchy back in the caveman era when they wanted their children sheltered and provided for instead of being raised in the forest on their own, the path was started towards a patriarchy they not only cannot escape, but innately don’t want to leave. Unlike machines, we don’t want to oppress women. But… feminism is teaching us that’s what they may deserve.

        50. No. Yes. Not yet although I doubt I will.
          Partly because it was in a foreign country, partly because one of them is super trashy and partly because the other is a raving loon.

        51. Hahaha! Reminds me of a favorite story of mine. A friend and I bought a VCR tape (yes, a VCR tape) of some porn for 20 bucks in Eastern Europe. I honestly don’t know why I did this especially since I haven’t seen it since it’s in PAL and I can’t find anyone to convert it for me.
          But the funny part is that I could go to a brothel for about 30 bucks.
          The same thing with strip clubs in foreign countries. Why pay to look at food when you can eat for the same price?

        52. “Young girls get into feminism in school kind of like if the state was handing out porno to young men. It’s a pornographic ideology: They get to be victims, irresponsible, entitled to everything they want, and someone else pays for everything. It’s crack.”… Man, that is so funny but true!!!… But I don’t think they are salvageable, not really. They will always have some issue or another. The only question is whether you think she is worth putting up with?.

        53. You’re obsessed with men you gay fagggggg…all you do is spew hate towards women. shut up and go take sum dick up ur hole if you like men so much

        57. Did you recently take a savage blow to the skull, resulting in mental impairment, or did you not read the dozens of comments which conveyed that she is: a she (hence your usage of female pronouns), married late, was beaten by her father, travelled to some countries, speaks three languages, is in love with a guy, and has friends who are also married.
          If you’re going to be a white knight at least be smart about it. Like, seriously, my man, you’re a joke at being a joke.

        58. Women don’t owe men one damn thing if they buy us a meal. It’s called dating, and you are just checking each other out. Prepared for what? You are scary.

        60. Maybe it would help if fathers their considered their daughters as fully human rather than good or bad. It’s scary to think of you guys as fathers.

        64. You getting freebies is called checking each other out ? Lol. Buy me a meal then , i want to check you out. No but really , why do you expect the man to pay like it’s a given ? Are you the prize or something ? If we check each other out it’s supposed to be on equal terms right ? So why are you getting all the benefits while we empty our pockets ?

        65. Complex no complex whatever. You guys just dislike the fact that we want a pure woman and , unlike a pure one that can always start whoring , you can’t change back the already damaged one to a pure one , even if you guys become born-again virgins after 30 and like to act like you’re still the prize.
          Edit : also , what exactly are you complaining about ? Make me understand. That we have standards ? That we like some kind of women and dislike others ? You want us to like all women whichever choices they made in life ?
          Choices are free for everybody to make , but they don’t absolve him/her of consequences and the consequence for being a more promiscuous woman will have an effect on the quality of men you can get. The problem is accepting it , which is what a lot of girls seem to not do. You don’t want to be judged for your past behaviors , all the while judging everyone around you for their present ones , like now. Irony ?
          Edit 2 : if your answer will be that most men don’t think like that and that it’s only this site , ask yourself why 99% of women in 99% of times will lie about their sexual past to their present boyfriends / husbands ? It’s like they know they will be judged for that. The remainder of 1% have no reason to be ashamed because they know they are pure.

        66. You know what ruins marriages ? A bored ungrateful wife that thinks that it’s ok to do anything she wants because who cares , she’s an independent empowered woman and fuck everybody else right ?

        67. I don’t know about ends. I can only say what I know about them and myself to the best of my knowledge. I wound up marrying a nice woman 10 years my junior I met while living in Poland. I was open to American career women my age but they required a lot of work and my Ukrainian girlfriend was prettier, so there you go. We’ve been married 11 years now.
          One career woman American girlfriend wound up marrying some guy other than me (I kind of broke her in) but she quickly divorced the guy and now has 2 kids (she just wanted the kids, not the man in particular). She’s ok but last time I heard she’s a recluse in a log cabin now the kids are moving out. I hope the kids come home and discover her body before the cats eat her.
          For the majority of aging American career women I briefly dated, I didn’t follow up with them (I met them through dating services.) Some wound up marrying beta males and some wound up as spinsters.
          It was an interesting experience to go through. I remember when I was young that there was this sweet, wonderful girl who liked me but I wasn’t ready for marriage and she become a nurse and got married and is doing great. I wonder that if I had married her, I wouldn’t be here. I’d know nothing about this and perhaps that would be a good thing (you know, like those horrible videos online that you wish you could unsee.) But it also gave me a lot of appreciation for what goes on in our culture.
          Have a good weekend!

        69. Sure you do!
          For starters, it’s now a “date”. If it’s split, then it’s just “friends” going out. When I went on a first date, I’d have her on my arm, touch her often, and basically treat her like she was my girlfriend. Even if she didn’t want to see me after that night, I expected to be treated like I was “dating” her.
          Next, when someone is paying the tab, the meter is on. If women were paying, you can betcha they’d be seeing whether the person is giving them value for what they put into it. Lerellen, just a word of advice to the ladies: If you’re asking for someone to pay your way, then try to provide some value for yourself and them. Don’t just sit around like a child waiting for a clown to entertain you. Provide some interesting topics of conversation rather than fret “He’s not asking me about what I like.” Well, YOU pay for the dinner and then we’ll ask you what you want to talk about, ok? Smile. Be tactful and engaging. You owe it to him and yourself.

        70. She gave you some details of her life,probably to humanize herself to avoid the misogyny stick. That failed, of course.

        71. What’s the got to do with you claiming I didn’t know anything about her life, while being categorically wrong…? Feel free to apologize for being an ignorant fool and starting a factually incorrect argument.

        73. If you ask me out you pay;if I ask you I pay. I’ve been out with guys who got so offended if I suggested we split the check, even as just friends. It’s hard to know what the protocol is anymore.

        74. If you ask me ? Never heard of a woman doing the hard work asking out :)) . Who cares about the protocol. It’s about equality , you wanted it. And saying you pay when you invite is not equality , because even if that happens 1 in 100 times , which i doubt it , you are still the one that wins in the end.

        75. I don’t think women have the concept of owing. They think they deserve anything and everything and receive freebies and think it’s all cool and dandy , until they give 10 cents to a beggar that didn’t thank them enough and burst out in outrage that they’re not grateful.

        78. She traveled around mate. Please respect that acomplishment , it’s extremely hard to board a plane.

          Don’t joke about that! We have a woman running for president who really does believe that.

        79. For the majority of aging American career women I briefly dated, I didn’t follow up with them (I met them through dating services.) Some wound up marrying beta males and some wound up as spinsters.
          For any struggling beta guys in their 30s it would do them a big favor to become red pill aware, even if they just read Rollo’s book to get a better understanding of how women operate. I know a few that struggled from late 20s, and married career women mid/lates 30s and the relationships generally did not turn out well. A few got divorced within a few years and lost a big junk of their assets or for the others the relationship is lop sided. He does more to please her and there is rare affection from her and/or the baby is her No.1 focus in life and the guy takes a back seat and takesd care of the bills. To me (and some others) they definitely got settled for.

        80. I married a Ukrainian woman who was raised to appreciate men and I think that’s one of the factors missing in American career women. My wife wants a high powered career just like American women (it’s this weird thing women are taught to want) but she at least appreciates men in her life. Perhaps it’s partly due to nationalism and family. Family matters and men are a part of family so slavic women appreciate men more. In the states, everyone is largely an interchangable stranger in a big consumerist workcamp.
          My wife sometimes jokes with me that she’s surprised I didn’t just marry an American woman because it would be “easier” than the adjustment she went through to move here (improving her English, dealing with cultural differences, etc.) As you just pointed out, I got the impression from the dating service career women that they didn’t appreciate men much. They wanted him to provide sperm and money and even a baby to them was a mere fashion accessory like a handbag or designer shoes to impress other women.
          I suppose, in theory, I could have walked these women into being better wives through extremely good game: Be a good clown for the first few dates (keep them happy and entertained). Lay them a few times (then the oxycotin kicks in their brains.) Take it slow in marrying them and go to a lot of counseling to go over my concerns. The more time they invest in a relationship (and the older the get), the more hypergamy benefits the man, yes? So a man should get sex ASAP and then hold off on marriage and having kids with a typical American woman (and especially career woman) for at least 5 years. If she can’t wait, then tell her to sign off on a prenup and put money into an escrow trust so that if she tries to go for child-support, the money would come out of that. Otherwise, it becomes the child’s college fund.
          But by the time I met my Ukrainian wife, I thought to myself : eff it. Why should I bother to “settle?” And that’s the paradox: Any man with that kind of game going on will probably just leave and find something better.

        81. My wife is sweet and sometimes overly generous with people that do good things for her. It’s one of the reasons I married her: She is very grateful and fair when it comes to considering the good things I do as well as the bad. Women in the states in the past were often kind hearted (many still are). For fun, look up “hobo code” for “nice lady”. Kind hearted women were once so common that hobos came up with a code to scratch into trees to signal other hobos a good place to get a snack.
          The problem is that women are emotional creatures. Men are too but to a lesser degree (after all, look at all the white knights out there!) We talk about feminine hypergamy here, but in reality they’re just like cats going through instinct when it comes to being masters at catching mice. The problem is that our western chivalrous culture pounds into men their worthlessness on a daily basis while encouraging women to be selfish. This hypergamy works great for women when they’re young and attractive but for ones who aren’t (or pass their window), they just don’t “get it” that they need to “man up” and work a little harder. My wife knows a lot of these and they’re like lost children which brings me to:
          We have a friend whose raising a 2 year old daughter and teaching her basic morals and ethics. Essentially, the 2 year old right now is a little monster/sociopath. She cries to try to get mommy/daddy to give her stuff and pretends like she’s distressed (they spot it and call her on it.) She throws things and the parents have to criticize and punish her. She tries to hurt the cat for fun. She is a monster.
          Imagine if the parents didn’t just NOT discourage such behavior but even fed it. That’s what many young women go through from their early years (especially in single mother households where such mothers are not much better raised themselves?) Or they have a white knight father who does fall for the tricks of her crying to get attention. (I have a sister who did this and she would up becoming like that as an adult. When it no longer worked, she was lost as to why and had problems with law enforcement.)

        83. And academia, medicine, law, humanities, languages, business… In fact you’re now only still leading in politics and STEM as women are still discriminated against in those areas. The fact men can only dominate women when we’re held back (whilst on an even playing field women tend to do better) kinda speaks for itself, no? The fact that you have to convince yourself females are only good for sex and reproduction is vile (notice that women don’t have to, we know our worth and are well aware we can do anything you can AND give birth so have no need to knock you down to pull ourselves up) and proves you’re one unhappy loser.

        84. What about all the men taking credit for things other men (that lived centuries before and are vastly intellectually superior) invented whilst ignoring the many things women brought to the table despite our lack of equal opportunities?

        85. More women work in offices now than men. Even in the 1950s women worked in offices. So how’s being an office worker “pretending to be a man”? Do you work? Because by your stupid logic, that also makes you a hooker.

        86. It’s funny that you accuse men of being unhappy losers while justifying and demanding more special privileges for women to “level the playing field” and have sour grapes about men’s accomplishments. Look up the Nobel prizes in academic pursuits which are not dependent upon quotas held in Norway, a bastion of anti-woman discrimination. Most are held by white males, Asians (Japan and China), and Jews. Looks like white males still have some utility after all.
          As I said, the ability to give birth is about as useful as the ability to use a credit card at the shopping mall. For cats that produce multiple litters of kittens in the wild where most don’t survive, it’s a neat ability but for someone to raise a child without them becoming future wards of the criminal justice system, it requires a breadwinner or a massive state sponsored welfare system that’s breaking down even in places such as, er, Norway. (Neat how that worked out, isn’t it?)
          In the meantime, even with all the quotas and welfare state entitlements, the style sections of most daily newspapers (that people bother to still read) are full of unhappy career women griping, gasp, they have to pay their own way (sometimes!) and there’s a shortage of rich, chivalrous men to provide for her and her offspring. Here’s the thing: even if you gals get a million dollars handed to you to “level the playing field’, most of you will blow it on designer shoes and bags. And you know it.
          But yeah, when it comes to being a victim in a chivalrous white male run culture welfare state, while it lasts, they have us beat. I’m so impressed.

        87. Oh, heck, I’ll go one better for you. History is full of men stealing other men’s inventions. Thomas Edison stole Tesla’s patents (after first claiming that they were stupid). RCA stole Farnsworth’s patents for the TV. Edison (again) stole the credit for the invention of the light bulb (Joseph Swan). GM stole the idea for the intermittent windshield wiper from Robert Kearns and only after a long legal battle, paid a settlement.
          I’ll be the first to say it: There are a lot of scum men out there. But… at least they didn’t claim to be Victims because they were men while demanding that their supposed oppressor rescue them and provide them with goodies to be equal.
          If women are doing so great, why do they continue to need so much welfare? When do they start acting like equals instead of victims?

        88. Cheeky. “vastly intellectually superior”. Now ain’t that some cheap insult based on nothing? You know that because? Oh you like to think that. A random person can now have an infinetely more baggage of knowledge than back then solely because of The free access to information in The internet. You just have to thirst for this knowledge at your fingertips and it’s yours. Sorry, equal opourtunities? Women always ruled The World , They were The shadows behind The men. And still they didn’t accomplish anything. Now please , spare me The victim complex.

        93. Oh dear, I think you’ve scored an ‘own goal’ there. Why are you and all the other nasty specimens on a site like ‘Return of Kings’ – you never could be a king or anything else of note. Real men aren’t threatened by feminism.

        95. Of course. Because the more she divulged, the more apparent it became that she is the stereotype.

        96. If she’s an ’empowered’ freak like you, she is gonna have to pay me for my company. ‘Cause I ain’t hanging out with that chit for fun.

        97. Please explain how women “didn’t accomplish anything”. What they did manage to accomplish despite their inferior opportunities is quite extraordinary. It’s hardly women’s faults the mighty males left women’s names off scientific papers, took credit for their inventions (fridge, washing machine, dishwasher, even freaking beer to name a few) and etc. Please also explain to me how women “ruled the world”. Interesting way to describe people who were literally viewed as property until fairly recently. You can’t just make points without backing them up with any explanation. Make an effort please.

        98. So you give an explanation and i don’t ? Please , your opinions are just that , opinions. If we take the time to research we would find equal findings regarding both my statements and yours and you know that.. It’s called search bias. Besides , even if women had fewer opportunities , they no longer do , in fact they are favored in all first world countries of the world when it comes to education , love and career. You would see that if you were a man. Go to a job interview , 9 men 1 woman , the woman always gets picked because the interviewer is male and likes her body. Now you wouldn’t happen to believe that that 1 woman is always more fit for the job than 9 other men ? That’s what i mean when i say you always ruled the world. Even if there was a king , there was always a wife behind him influencing his decisions. People open doors for you , they give your their seats , they give you their places in the queue lines , they treat you more nicely because you are delicate flowers so you are more exempt from violence and basically just all around easy-mode. But of course you’re oppressed by the patriarchy , your problems always were , are and will be because of others.

        1. LoL, my husband would probably find hysterical that you called me “delicate” ^^

        4. I feel sorry for a brother that he has this nagging self-entitled person as a wife. This is exactly the reason why some men go bald earlier in life then others.

        5. I’m not surprised your husband wouldn’t consider you delicate. He’s probably the delicate one.

      4. RoK’ers do have an obsession with that “wall” thing. I guess if you’re a woman who hits 30, just jump in the nearest grave, and someone from RoK will be happy to bury you

        1. Can’t they just go up to the mountain like old people used to do? Meat for carrion must be good for the environment.
          Don’t get me wrong women can still successfully land a decent man at thirty (decent in terms of being a provider etc.) but that increases the likelihood of fertility issues etc. Modern media can spin all the shit they want about waiting for children, but that doesn’t stop the rise of birth defects and the sharp decline in birth rates.

        2. It’s easy for a 30 something to get knocked up. And the only birth defect associated with age is Downs, and thanks to amnio you hardly see that anymore

        3. Bit of a strawman argument, isn’t it? A woman who is thirty might take years to have the foundations in place (man, money etc.) to actually then try for children. It isn’t about whether a woman can have kids at thirty, its about whether a woman at thirty who is still single is now playing against the clock.

        8. Meaning you can’t blame all of these cases on the age thing. Not that I think waiting is a good idea. A girl should start as soon as she can. As far as my daughter, it is what it is and it doesn’t have to prevent her from having a relatively normal life. Its just going to be a little more difficult for her.

        9. Hm your reply to me seems to be deleted , don’t know why. You were asking me if i was questiong you attention span. You are the same with February Flower ? Because it’s her attention span i was questioning not yours. Don’t know where you got that idea. As for spelling and grammar , not my language , i don’t care , it’s not an offense for me. Sorry if it seemed that i said anything wrong to you and not February Flower , this disquss stuff is a bit new to me 😛

        10. I misread the comment ordering, mate. Thought you were being a white knight so threw out a cheeky flame. Then I realized my mistake.

        11. No worries mate , glad we got it figured. Now let’s go back to taking care of these trolls.

        13. A higher correlation of a disease at a higher age does not mean there isn’t a lower correlation of that disease at a lower age. In fact it means precisely that.

        17. And teen moms and older dads have a greater risk for a kid on the spectrum. But even with all that the risk is still very low. I figure better detection is responsible for most of the increase in ASD

        1. Don’t engage them mate. They are like bears , they will go away if left alone. Their attention spans are to short anyway for real conversation.

        2. So you’re questioning my attention span when you don’t even have a grasp on basic spelling and grammar?
          Not ‘avin it, mate.

        3. Yes, I know. Don’t feed the trolls. I was going to post more, but you gents have done a dandy job replying to this girls angry cyber lynching. Bravo!

      6. Here we go … preaching your vile feminist garbage around here, hey, you cunt?!!
        There are dozens upon dozens of feminazi and faggot sites where you can go to spew your perversion and ignorant trash, you cunt. As eye-talians say: “Get da fauck atta hea!”

      7. I hate the term “unconditional love”. It’s such nonsense. Should Hitler’s mother love him unconditionally even as an adult? Parenthood is about teaching, not imposing, healthy values on their children. Some of these values may not be congruent with the child’s natural disposition and the parent needs to be flexible to deal with that (perhaps some girls will turn out to gifted at music and want to travel and they want to have a nanny look after her kids) and the parent will need to handle that. By the same token, a leftist parent that raises their son to respect “diversity” while he is told to throw himself under a bus so that society will be better off without him will later need to move on from those “values” as well, yes?
        Parents can’t “impose” their will upon kids, as we know, but they can guide and teach them. Knowledge isn’t the same as losing free will. If you know that putting your hand on the stove will burn it, then you will probably not put your hand there but you still have the choice to do so. Yes? A good parent/teacher will “protect” their child through healthy guidance and education. This job is a long term one where healthy habits are started early and maintained through the tough teenage years when the media and friends seek to overwhelm the parent. By then, the young teen should have a strong base of values to offset cultural influences.

        1. Right, parenting is about mentoring, not bff’ing. And marriage is about work, oiling the machine parts and keeping her spinning dynamo in a constructive mode, not becoming a circular saw blade that one day dismembers the clan. She knows not what she does at least three times a day anyways. Romantic love begets zero populatipn growth like in this popular piece.This 70’s ditty encapsulates the epitome of romantic love:

          Sad indeed. The flower gardens, the tenderness and the dream world noggenfreud over oneitis for a woman will swallow a man’s entire life it seems. There’s something missing. POO-LIGGERMEE. Yup. The solution is right under your nose.
          http://23cv3m1dndsq45j54q3lf5le.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Nathan-Collier-Wives.jpg
          YEE-HAW!!

        2. “Should Hitler’s mother love him unconditionally even as an adult?” – Of course. Hitler was awesome.

      8. Young lady, there are consequences for behavior. Some are positive and some are negative. Teaching that is actually preparing a child for life. You are obviously young and have no children of your own. I personally don’t care what you think because I am now watching my children raise theirs and they don’t seem to mind telling their kids “No!”
        (Not to mention the new Disqus account so you could come storm Roosh, behave rudely and report back how you went after the RoK guys.)

      11. Seems pretty clear that this post hit on some sensitive emotional weak points in your life. You don’t need to share what it is with us, but truly ask yourself this: why am I offended?

      13. She has reproductive years for a reason. She should use those years for what they were intended, not for attentionwhoring on instagram.

        1. You’re so old-fashioned. Most people’s “reproductive years” are not compatible with their economic peak, hence why women are now waiting until they’re older to start having kids. Whatever you might like to think, we’re not just hear to breed anyway so….

        2. I often love to point out to women who think they have feminism to thank for “opportunities” that their “economic peak” is now later in life thanks to a higher cost of living due to feminism.
          Women flooding the workplace deflated wages. Leftism, which feminism is a dupe for, brought in millions of non-whites to drive up leftist voting rolls which also drove down wages while increasing the cost of living for housing, education, and even the roadways. Next time you’re stuck in a traffic jam, thank feminism and leftism (along with crony capitalist partners!) Feminism: The great dupe!
          50 years ago, a young man with a high school degree or even a 2 year associates degree could afford to pay off their home in 5 to 10 years at most and take a 1 month vacation a year. My own working class family had not only a regular home, but a summer home on the lake! Housewives complained at how BORED they were. It’s like Queen Antoinette complaining how bored she got. Boredom is a sign of luxury! Working class women today have to work long hours to pay into the welfare state so someone else can raise children. And that’s why many of them now reject the feminist label. They don’t like the idea of working for other women to have children (especially the children of patriarchal non-western immigrants.)
          Yeah, feminism is doing a great job for women! Long hours, expensive cars and designer bags, and massive debt! Enjoy the “equality” ladies! hahahaha!

      14. He’s very old fashioned but it is disgusting that he uses ‘hit the wall’ in reference to his own daughter. He’s telling her that her value as a person will drop when she’s past 25. Jesus.

        1. Let’s try it this way: Let’s imagine you see some person working as a clerk in 7-11, a nice woman/man and all but then your favorite rock star comes in (for my wife, that would be George Michael).
          Who are you going to be obsessed about talking to? The rock star or the clerk?
          They’re both human beings worthy of basic respect, but our “values” as to what we offer potential partners and even friends is based upon what we put into ourselves. Just as education and experience makes us more valuable to our employers, why doesn’t this work for friends and potential spouses?
          Most women don’t market their education and income earning abilities as assets or even worse, use them to raise the bar on demands they make for men. When men buy you that dinner date (see another comment you made recently), they are saying that they are offering you value in addition to their basic existence as a person.
          For handsome men who are good looking, of course, their income earning abilities are not as critical (but most men are not that handsome in terms of what women want), it helps a lot. When a woman offers men nothing BUT their looks, then sure, the age of 25 or so is a peak. We _all_ peak. I’m not going to be the same man at 80 I was at 20.
          That’s life.

      15. So as a woman, you were born with a vagina and womb. What do you think these anatomy parts are for ? Being past the wall is the time when women are at an age where children are less healthy, born with less natural immunity because the woman is past her best child bearing years. Science can only do so much, the human body is the best at producing a healthy well adjusted baby. Before the wall the woman is at her best physiological time for fertility and health. After the wall offspring are merely ticking time bombs for all sorts of ailments age brings to the host body. It’s a shame that women are shying away from having children as it also suits their temperament through millennia of genetics. I know Feminism now says pregnancy is Patrarchy’s way of keeping women down, but what thirty or older woman is truly fulfilled with a career and nothing else ? Why else are these women now trying so hard to get pregnant at an age that doesn’t give the baby any help to get started. If you consider this as merely a misogynistic concept, you are nothing more than a feminist shill.

      16. I agree with you completely! God the life of a misogenist must be boring as fuck, congrats on achieving a decent life!

      17. You actually do own your children until they are 18. They are, of course, humans, and the law and society condemns selling humans. Beyond that, parents are held accountable for their children’s well-being and actions until they’re 18. And children are by definition immature, impulsive, and lack the development and perspective to make decisions in their long-term best interest. That’s why we don’t let them raise themselves.
        This culture of “respecting your child’s choice” is detestable as it is just bowing out of the responsibility to set boundaries and examples that will serve them as adults.

    2. A lot of men get mad at their wife when she flakes. All women flake at times just like some men forget to leave their keys in the car at times. When a thief goes joy riding, it’s time to fiercely retribute on the punks that need a lesson in manners and thievery. Your wife’s enablers are the real problem. No one man can spook the entire enemy himself, but every man acquiring an increasingly vigilent and patriarchal mindset will each by his own virtue exercise a little push against the evil and corrupting forces. A ‘mood’ of tribal hegemony amongst a people collectively forms a ‘great wall’ like an invisible protective shield against detractors and invaders to your culture. There isn’t something small or large that every man alive can’t do on a daily basis to throw a little chip at the scourge. Preaching patriarchal order drowns out a lot of external noise and brainscrew influence from reaching and affecting a family.

    3. True. And it starts with the man as example. Lead by example and both your daughter and son will follow.
      And true indeed, good selection of your wife is key.

      1. Women don’t need leading, least of all by the likes of you. You need leading to a good shrink, preferably a woman who could straighten you out, you silly egotistical bully.

        3. Quite scary – for you, and any innocent children who might get caught up in your train wreck.

    4. Pick right, never stop gaming your wife, and be the rock of your family. You are 100% right, a father’s job never stops.

    5. I have been married for twenty seven years. We have four daughters and two sons. My eldest daughter started off wanting to be an OB/GYN but has decided to shorten her goal to be a teacher and a mother instead. One thing I have taught my daughters is that their own hormones will make them want sex more than anything, and to emphasize my point I explain to them that if they choose to act like an animal then they are an animal and will be treated like an animal. While I had not the words for the concept until it has been so well framed by our peers here at RoK I taught all my children to be accountable for the outcome of their own actions.
      While I am fully aware of factions of our species that want zero population growth or our own extinction I think much of our present debased state is due to our failing in the face of our own prosperity. I am glad to see this new generation realizing what has been occurring and striving to mitigate our collapse into barbarism. This gives me joy to see. May we succeed in saving our broken society for the consequences will be more severe for the very ones engendering the sickness, but to me this sentiment seems a contradiction in my own heart.

    6. I’d say the best thing you could do is to move away from the west. It won’t be long before authorities will have the right to remove your children if you don’t raise them with feminist values.

      1. I’m on my way. Will be in finding my new “home” in either SA or SEA by end of March. Once established I’m sure my now adult kids will pay a visit and likely stay, especially my son when he sees the difference in girls there compared to here.

      1. It’s all indoctrinating away from the values of Christianity, the whole secular leftist ideology is about tearing people away from those morals.

        1. religion is indoctrination, dude Nothing about your religion is different from the thousands even likely millions of religions throughout history. Jesus is Mithra, christmas is pagan and Adam and Eve is a copy of Pandora’s box. So don’t even go there with me, sunshine

        2. That’s cute, and I’m well aware of the Pagan influences the Catholics brought in. I don’t celebrate Christmas any more, Easter is a pagan fertility ritual too. To say that the values of all religions are the same is totally naive.
          Christianity civilized Europe, if you think for one minute that the Pagans were just as good and civil you need to read more. They were savages not much different than many remote tribes today, and savage doesn’t just mean good warriors.

        4. I wonder how the “world” was able to do that. It’s kinda notorious for being a cesspool in and of it self. It wasn’t the pagan, Moslem, Jewish or Hindu world that did it.

        5. Yeah they did. In nations where society proggressed all religions morphed to not include the yucky stuff your lot dont wanna talk about like sacrifice and rape, those would be the nations that have better soil and more water leading to better and more crops leading to (eventually) what we have today. Third world christians are just as “savage” as other third world religious groups. Not like christians have improved much mind you. I mean the homophobia, sexism and what caused by y’all is sickening. So dont get all high and mighty just because you dont kill gays or legally rape women to claim them as your wives; the ideology and the bigotry still exists. Lack of violent action currently wont change that. and thats all I have to say toyou and your sociologically blind ass

    8. ¿Is this a fucking joke or are u guys from medieval times? Or is it just the fucking religion that turns you into retarded beings? Anyway, hope the world get’s cleaned soon, because people like you just don’t deserve to have children, that’s a fact.

        1. have any proof bro? nope. All you’re proof has to do with chemicals in your small brain telling you that you feel “something” spiritual while you’re in a church and you think maybe its “god”

        3. who give a fuck if people are gay? Gay is a natural occurrence in the world. Gay people exist because you’re homophobic bible teachings aren’t the reality. Mother nature is. Mother nature produces gay people. shocker right?

        4. That’s not actually true. Animals typically only display homosexual behaviours when under psychological stress (i.e. living in a way that is against nature.) But, hey, whatever you want to tell yourself when you’ve got balls smushed against your cheeks.

        5. Actually you are incorrect. Several animals naturally display gay behavior when they’re NOT under any stress. If they were under stress they wouldnt be having sex in the first place. Animal sex is hormone driven, if their dna tells them they’re gay then boom they’re gonna have sex with the same gender. Same with humans.


        6. Listen… I really don’t care enough to keep talking to you. Have fun with whatever it is you were trying to do. Or stick around and read some articles so that you can learn not to be such a tragic mangina.

        7. Thats all you can come up with? A 2 minute youtube clip?. I could produce 1000000000s of articles. and better yet, real life existing people who say IM GAY AND I CANT HELP IT. But yeah ill just continue to “learn” from this site about how bitter some men truly are that they don’t live in the 1800s. The world is progressing to a more beautiful, equal, righteous place and you’re stuck in the past. Get your head out of your bible and look around!

        8. I must say I find it hilarious that you originally came here claiming to want to put some ‘pussies in place’. You sound like a huge SJW who wouldn’t hurt someone’s feelings let alone their physical person.
          Good luck with your crusade, fanatic. I also find it strange that you’re a woman hiding behind a man’s name by the way.

        9. when did I ever say I wanted to come here to put pussies in their place? And why is being an SJW bad? Oh yeah, because it goes against your laughable bible teachings.

        10. Because SJW are basically everything they say they hate: oppressive, racist, bigoted, hateful, and so damn stupid. Take for example you assuming I hold any of my views on a biblical basis. Or your attempt to decry and diminish anyone who disagrees with you by saying they’re living in some bygone era. My beliefs are all based on social / psychological / biological facts. Yours are basically something you’ve adopted because they happen to be popular. You’re a follower without objective thought or genuine intelligence.
          To answer your first question: “I joined this site to put dumbasses like you in your place…”

        11. And now you claim I am a SJW. I am not. You have blatantly ignored all of my evidence which proves you wrong and sneakily moved on to different subject matters, which is typical of someone who is wrong.
          Putting dumbasses like you in their place is not the same as putting pussies in their place. A pussy is a cat. Or a vagina. You are neither, however you coined the term “pussy” in an attempt to make me seem like a bigot. But in reality you are the bigot-referring to me as a mangina. So clever. So clever yet at the same time it just perfectly highlights how insecure you are in your own masculinity.

        12. The evidence you proposed was hypothetical. I didn’t ignore it–I just didn’t care. I don’t care. Though I really do appreciate all the compliments towards my intelligence. Truly. I’d go on, but I’m sure you can find someone else more interested in discussing your love of homosexuals and the brave new world that the progressive narrative has crafted for you… nevermind rising mental health and unhappiness rates. Nevermind the toxic nature of nearly everything to do with the progressive left. Nevermind the sky high divorce and the down low birth rates. Nevermind the obvious fact that society has never been more dysfunctional than it is now by every objective measure other than your ‘feelings’.
          There is something fundamentally wrong with society, rotting away at the core. And you are the guardian of that rot. You spread the fester. And you are so far gone that you could be no more convinced of that than you could be convinced of religion. To you there is no proof of god because the world you live in is godless and pointless. Selfish and narccisistic. I despise you, friend, truly, with all my heart. You and people like you are everything that is wrong with the world.

        13. You live in a state of wishing you were in a different time period. This website is called “Return of Kings” -which ironically proves how sad this site is. There are no kings anymore. You can’t go back to whatever bigoted era you want to be in. The world is the best it ever has been, with a sweet reduction in idiots like you. People live longer, better, and free. You’re ideals come from a world of slavery, death, and short lives spent understandably believing in some racist, sexist, homophobic god.
          People in the past had no evidence. But you do, and you chose to ignore all the science and love in the world because it goes against you’re own narrow views. The bible and quite frankly everything you hold sacred to your heart is slowly diminishing. People are waking up and there is no stopping it. There is nothing wrong with the world yet people stuck in the past will always claim it-people said society was better how it used to be 100 years ago, 200 years ago, 1000 yrs etc. All of them were swept away with worldly improvement and you soon will be too.

        14. Your ignorance is profound. You’ve got Sweden preparing for war, Turkey aiding ISIS, the EU on the brink of collapse (with President Donald Tusk saying it feels like the day before World War One) and you think everything is just going to be business as usual?
          The EU is finished, which means Russia (a country far more bigoted than I am) will be the dominant power in Europe, neighboured by China who don’t give a shit about your progressive ways either. Are you really so stupid you’ve managed to convince yourself that what happens in progressive west dictates what happens in the rest of the world?
          Get over yourself, you progressive twat.
          I’m not going away any time soon. I’m posting with my own name, while you hide behind the name of a man. And all across Europe millions of Muslims are coming and coming and converting and converting and they’ll not go down as easy as the Christians did. You think that I’m going to be swept away…? All I need to do is pick up a Quran and laugh.
          I don’t even care if (by some unlikely miracle) the whole world continues as is and leaves me behind. I do not determine my beliefs based off of popular opinion. I live my life how I want to life my life and I’ll be happy live or die. The opinions and thoughts of others are meaningless.
          That’s the hilarious thing. You think I’m on the wrong side of history, but even if I am I don’t even care. The thought of that makes me laugh. But because you’re a follower you abhor the possibility that you might have made an unconventional decision. How utterly pathetic.

        15. Theres always been problems in the world. The world is never perfect and compared to the last generation its a hell of a lot better. The worlds demise is solely because of people like you.
          If everyone shared my beliefs, the world would not have any problems. The middle east is in shambles because muslims are just as stupid as christians. And christians are about as smart as rocks.
          Your beliefs are based on your own brainwashing as a kid. You don’t have the balls to think for yourself. You come here to chatter with a bunch of other men about pointless shit. You are, in your own terms, a little pussy. You have to seek some help from other men or your religion. A real man, like I, does not need anyone else’s help or some nonexistent jesus to have faith in. When you die, you will disappear like dust and you will be unconscious and the world will continue to thump on.
          Yeah the worlds got problems now. It always has always will because idiots like you try and dominate it. The term progressive means “happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.” and that is exactly what the world is doing. If the world were to take a turn for the worse it would be because of a bunch of dumb muslim, christian, or any other synonym of stupidity tried to do “what they felt was right”

        18. I don’t buy it. You’re February Flower or her cuck husband. You should have taken my advice and left the site.

        19. February Flower? Another one of your little man crush friends on here I assume? Go suck each others dicks buddy

        22. I do believe in God, but I don’t believe in Heaven. I’m not sure people should be rewarded for simply doing what is right. That’s all to say that your baiting is unimportant to me. You’re clearly unhappy and I’m sorry for that and I wish you luck in resolving the issues in your life. Fair well.

        23. Clearly you are a very bitter human being, and since you are on here congregating with other men all the time I think you need an orgasm given to you by a big dick right in your ass…or you’re…uhh mangina. And after he ought to splatter right in your face. It may be the cure for you mate. See ya, hope you take my advice.

        27. The whole point was he isn’t masculine at all. All he does is sleep all day and he also really likes belly rubs. Also, he’s humped both male and female dogs before. Just like you.

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