In The Crosshairs Of Our Masters: Do What They Say, Or Else

Make no mistake: the US elites (of both political parties) are deeply afraid. For the first time in decades, they feel they are sitting atop a powder keg. The economy is in ruins, despite the delusional propaganda emanating out of Washington. Students are crushed with debt and enraged. Working people of all classes, races, and backgrounds sense (correctly) that they are working more and more for less and less.

And behind it all, a stifling apparatus of political correctness operates to silence or intimidate those who dare to question the official state religions. To distract the people from the real enemies—themselves—the media and political elites manufacture convenient scapegoats in the form of mythological entities like “patriarchies,” “income inequalities,” “rape cultures,” and the like. It has all become so routine as to pass nearly without comment in educated circles.


They can’t stop him fairly, so now they’re going to play dirty

In the political arena, the same obsessive need for control is on display. As outsider Donald Trump seems set to close in on the Republican presidential nomination, one can almost feel the terror emanating out of the Republican old guard. Trump is an unknown quantity. They don’t know if he’ll fire the lot of them—as he should—should he ever win the presidency.

They’ve got decades of guilt on their hands, and they know it. So now they are moving into overdrive to torpedo Trump. It looks like it’s going to be the usual lie-and-smear tactics, with a bit of violence thrown into the mix. We’re going to see more and more of this sort of thing:

1. Cherry-picking of Trump statements to paint him as the most evil creature since Genghis Khan.

2. Media lying and obfuscation of his positions.

3. Creation of fake crises at Trump rallies, and then blaming them on Trump.

4. Holier-than-thou pronouncements from the political insiders who have done nothing for the past 25 years.

5. Instigation of violence at Trump events to prevent him from speaking.

Trump knows this, of course, and is well-prepared to thwart these tactics. I hope he knows that he’s going to be facing an avalanche of lies, hate, and orchestrated intimidation. But what is interesting about the elite assault on Trump is how it mirrors the elite assault on other political figures around the world. There is a direct correlation with the treatment of Trump, as there is with the elite treatment of other uncontrollable political figures, like Brazil’s Lula and Russia’s Putin.

All three of these figures threaten the status quo in their countries. And all three of them have come under ferocious attacks by elites who are terrified of seeing their traditional dominance challenged. Elites of the Republican and Democratic parties want a stooge they can control.  They want someone who will simply read the teleprompter, not ask any questions, and not do anything to change the system or rock the boat.  They want someone who will allow them to continue their looting of the country’s wealth, and their transference of that wealth into fewer and fewer hands, a process that has been going on since the 1980s.


Remember that the US elites were the ones who coined the term “regime change.” And they meant it, too. Just as in the case of Donald Trump, the message is clear: if you don’t toe the party line and do what they want, you will be targeted for subversion and overthrow. The objective here, as always, is control.

Washington has never been comfortable with the whole idea of the “BRIC” nations, consisting of Russia, Brazil, China, and India. They were beginning to exercise a dangerous level of independence from the US elites and their economic instruments, such as the World Bank and the UN.

There was talk about forming currency regimes free from the US dollar, and political initiatives outside the control of Washington. There were plans for constructing a new fiber-optic cables connecting Brazil, Europe, and Asia. The apple cart was being pushed unacceptably, in the eyes of the elites. Therefore, in the logic of the elites, the offenders needed to be undermined.

Putin himself has long known this, and accepts this as the price of being independent. Foreign elites loved the Russia of the 1990s because it was corrupt, weak, and in the hands of oligarchs whom they could control or buy off. Putin upset the apple cart by changing all of that.


His early moves to arrest elite-friendly Russian oligarchs and restore Russian sovereignty elicited the usual response from the elites: accusations of cruelty, allegations of “human rights” abuses, and the standard litany of horribles. Putin himself ignored them, and enraged them even more by restoring Russian political and military power.

In Brazil

The same sort of dynamic in in play with the case of Brazil. Early on in his presidency, Lula (Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva) had made himself an enemy of the Washington elites by putting his country ahead of the interests of US corporations. Some of the biggest offshore oil deposits in the world were recently discovered in Brazilian territory, and the elites immediately wanted to move in to privatize that wealth.

Lula’s intention was to give these concessions to state-run Petrobras. Exxon and Chevron were shunted to the sidelines, while Petrobras and China’s Sinopec were favored. Elites were not happy. They were not happy at all. No one was surprised to find out (by way of Wikileaks and Edward Snowden) that the US had been spying on Lula and his successor, Dilma Rousseff. Brazilian elites are not happy with Lula and his protégé, whom they see as committing the unforgivable sins of trying to improve the lot of the poor and disenfranchised.


Lula was recently humiliated by being hauled in for “questioning” in the country’s deepening political scandal about “corruption.” Why now? To say that corruption exists in Brazil is not the point: everyone knows it’s there, but the point is that it’s always been there. We only hear about it when the media wants to use it for some purpose.

What elites are really afraid of is the possibility of Lula running for president again in 2018. The real objective of the current corruption investigation (code-named “Car Wash” in the Brazilian press) is not so much to expose corruption in Brazilian politics, which has more or less existed for 300 years. It is to lay the groundwork for an impeachment of Rousseff, and bring about the much-desired “regime change” in Brasilia. The plan may have backfired, as Lula is a skilled political operator and knows how to turn himself into a martyr.

In other words: regime change, and then business as usual. It looks like Trump, Putin, and Lula have a lot more in common than any of them might have thought.

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208 thoughts on “In The Crosshairs Of Our Masters: Do What They Say, Or Else”

  1. I have posted this on ROK before, but will recap again, I never quite understood why some people though Donald Trump was a worse choice than “Clinton part II” or “Bush part III”, even Sanders is better choice than “Clinton part II” for that matter.
    People are finally seeing that Trump is running a Presidential Campaign and a company with 22,000+ employees, whom are mostly AMERICAN citizen, with billions of dollars in real estate holdings to maintain, ALL AT THE SAME TIME. People are finally starting to giving the guy some credit. In contrast, what other outside organization, WITH EMPLOYED STAFF, was Obama “running” during his initial Presidential campaign? NONE, just his Presidential campaign, with some skeleton crew staffers left behind, to autopilot his Senate duties, same goes for “Bush part II” (just replace “Senator” with “Governor”).
    Its also easy to understand Trumps popularity with younger women. Here is a hint, in the eyes of female instinct, he is a real Alpha Male, when compared to the other Betas trying to run for office. In a way, “Bush I” and “Bush II” were also Alphas, when judged by female instinct, Jeb Bush however, is not and it shows.
    Also, minorities are for most part still tapped into their primal instincts and teach their kids the same. While most Anglo’s, on the other hand, try to deny instincts and teach their boys to become Manginas that answer directly to feminine desire.
    Trump is none of these things, hence the current wave of female adoration, which in reality, is a type of physical attraction that none of these women know how to articulate when question and surveyed in the polls.
    Although Trump did grow up rich, inheriting money and property from his fathers businesses, the Trump Family is self-made for the most part and do not seem to be directly connected with NWO & Old-Money types (all the Trumps are Tax Dodgers BTW). Trumps grandfather did not process properly through Ellis Island, in the late 1800’s and had left behind many unpaid debt in Europe by the time he came to America and started his new businesses. However, what regular people don’t seem to understand is that folks like Donald Trump and Ross Perot are considered “trash” by the standards of the Romney and Bush clans types, with family members having held political offices, in the Untied States, as far back as the 1850’s. Note, Reagan, Bill Clinton, and Obama also had no direct family ties to the Old-Money types, however, they were not nearly as wealthy, nor as independently bold, as Trump or Perot and eventually all of them did “toe the line”, following the orders of the NWO & Old-Money types.
    The reality is that Trump will NEVER be accepted as part of the true “Owners of Capital” club because he is the decedent of regular working class immigrants from Germany, that came to the USA via Ellis Island. Whether voters believe it or not, people like Donald Trump and Ross Perot before him, are truly, the best chance, regular people have to being represented by someone in office who’s family is not beholden to or part of the NWO & Old-Money types. Although I have not thoroughly checked, it does not appear that Donald Trump, nor Ross Perot, were ever invited to or attended the Bilderberg Conference. That’s a GOOD sign, not a bad one (Both Clinton’s have however).
    There are some other things to consider, if, Trump has a REAL chance at winning the republican nomination or somehow gets huge backing as an Independent, the “Owners of Capital” will simply do what they did to Ross Perot and once that process unfolds he will eventually decide to “willingly withdraw” from the race.
    Do people really believe, that if someone like Donald Trump wins the election, that he will be able to do what he wants, as apposed to, what the “Military Industrial Complex” wants him to do?
    Anyone who becomes President of the United States has to “cow tow” to the “Military Industrial Complex” and even Donald Trump is not immune to a guaranteed “CIA visit” once in office.
    Be assured they will pay him a visit, if he ever wins, and like Ross Perot, Jessie Ventura, Arnold Schwarzenegger and even Obama, he too will be told to “toe the line” and “play ball”, as they dictate.
    For example, why in the world did Arnold Schwarzenegger need to do ANYTHING along party lines? His fame and popularity COMPLETELY transcended political parties, yet somehow he was still “answering” to politicians who “in theory” should have had no affect on his personal life, political career or personal fortune, all of which existed prior to being elected and was held COMPLETELY outside of the confines or influence of the “Military Industrial Complex”.
    Also consider this angle, there is a huge assets difference between someone like Mitt Romney, who has a $250 million net worth and Ross Perot with a $5 billion net worth (Donald Trump has a net worth of $4 Billion). Yet, someone like Romney was and still is a shoe in for party nominations. As I alluded to above, its NOT the money, nor the popular vote that matters, people like Mitt and Jeb Bush are government insiders and both come from families that always have been government insiders. That was not the case at all with Perot and the same goes for Trump, hence neither of them can be elected regardless of the popular vote or the public’s desires or how much money they spend.
    Ross Perot dropping out of the 1992 election was not happenstance either, nor simply about his daughters wedding:
    Both Trump and Sanders, in my opinion, are the least likely, currently “visible candidates”, to be heavily affiliated with NWO & Old-Money types. Trump and Sanders weren’t “born into” the “right kind” of political families, in fact their ancestors were immigrants from the lower classes of Europe. Its actually really too bad they can’t be on the same independent ticket, running as Independents, with Trump as President and Sanders as VP, with people like Ralph Nader, Jessie Ventura and Ron Paul filling the various cabinet positions (actually pooling campaign resources, with the intention of trying to win, as a team and not the usual solo campaigns).
    But if they tried to pull a “hat trick” like that, I’m sure quite a few of them would QUICKLY find themselves at risk of being in a “plane crash” or on the wrong end of a “car accident”.
    In hindsight, I truly believe that Ross Perot would have done a much better job than ANY of the “good ol’ boys” that we’ve gotten as Presidents since then. Trump is the nations second chance to get that type of leadership. Again, Perot dropping out of the 1992 election was not happenstance, nor was it simply about his daughters wedding. He was likely threatened in some way, that none of us can imagine. Think about it, why has he been so quiet, for the last 20+ years?
    Donald Trump will be no different, but, if he decides to run for President and he somehow wins, best case scenario, it will be Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronald Reagan all over again.

    1. There are a number of things going on in Western Society, from a public policy perspective, that I have pointed out, in past, on my ROK posts. Much of which, have a number of key, predictable, outcomes:
      1) The economic system in the USA is set up as a “Rent Seeking” platform for those that control the majority of its wealth, PERIOD. To believe any differently is nothing more than mental gymnastics, used to justify why we are strongly coerced to live the way we do. (note, many simply call these people the “Elite”, but lets face facts, they think they OWN us, like indentured servants, so, I refer to them as the “Owners of Capital” in my below posts)
      The “Owners of Capital” want wage slaves DEAD before turning 60. Best case scenario for them, is for someone to work 60+ hour work weeks from ages 16-60, put all of their money into a 401K, cars & home mortgage, neglecting to go to the doctor for decades and then suddenly drop dead of a heart attack; all before they can drain their 401K’s and start using earned social security & medicare benefits (note, some ROK posters, in the past, have said that the “Owners of Capital” want to extract ongoing fees from “lingering, uncured, illnesses in the elderly”, however, that only applies to the top 10%-20% of all earners. The rest, that are below such a level of income, the “Elite” want dying on the job because those below that income level do not have enough retirement savings to pay for such care. Which is why I use the term “wage slaves”).
      Due to the way our current economic system works, we CLEARLY have too many people being born and not enough desire on the behalf of the “owners of capital” to employ them for the sake of having a stable and safe civilization. In the United States, for example, its clear that the “owners of capital” have chosen NOT to employ people on a large scale, preferring “tent cities” and “jailing the homeless”, INSTEAD of providing more “make-work employment” arrangements.
      Up to the 1940 a person could get just about any job with an 8th grade education, but today you need a BA or Masters for entry level. Why?
      Because the government & big business figured out a long time ago that populations would certainly increase over time, but due to technology advancements, the availability of jobs would not expand to meet that population growth. There is a DEFINITE reason they don’t want people dropping out of high school and then at the same time, encourage those same high school graduates to attend junior college, then a 4 year university and finally a Masters degree or PhD. Government strong-arms this concept because it DECREASES the amount of people looking for full-time employment at the SAME TIME, chasing after jobs in a market that CANNOT provide employment for everyone whom is looking, able to perform, qualified for and willing to work.
      Look at it this way, when people could get a job with an 8th grade education, they went out and did it as soon as possible (opportunity cost). Then jobs got scarcer and the minimum requirement became a high school diploma, adding 4 more years of people NOT Looking for jobs within their cohort. Then jobs got even scarcer and the minimum became a 2 or 4 year college degree, adding an additional 2-4 years of people NOT looking for jobs within their cohort. Now jobs are really scarce and may require a Masters or PHD, adding an additional 2-7 years of people NOT looking for jobs within their cohort. Basically due to the way the economy has been structured TODAY, we are looking at young people within their cohort whom are NOT looking for full-time, career type, employment for 4-15 YEARS, beyond K-12, all while they finish more school!
      This has been done ON PURPOSE, to keep the number people seeking employment lower. In 1920 after 8th grade everyone who was able, went out to look for work and typically found it. That’s simply NOT possible today under any circumstances. Easily accessed welfare will soon add another 1-3 years of people within a cohort, to those “not seeking employment”. Note this will NOT be to the specific detriment of society, but as a means to continue to mask the illusion that jobs and upward mobility are still available. So, if someone gets a graduate degree and collects 1-3 years of welfare on top of than, that’s ONE less person competing for scarce jobs. The extra years of welfare are then acting in the same way to the larger economy, as the previously increased minimum education levels for employment. The real goal is decreasing the number of able-bodied applicants out on the job market at the same time, but also not decreasing the supply of “potential workers” who’s mere existence drive wages down for EVERYBODY. Keep in mind this cohort of people “not pursuing full-time employment” also includes those in Prison, Government pensioners/SSI and the disabled on government assistance. The reality is if everyone needed to go out and “get a job” or “start their own business” TODAY, as many “capitalists” and “entrepreneurs” suggest these days, we would ALL be making 0.25 cents a day. THIS RACE TO THE BOTTOM EFFECTS THE SELF EMPLOYED WAGES AS WELL.
      The “owners of capital” have already decided, FOR US REGULAR PEOPLE, that there are going to be LESS jobs available in the NEAR future, due to increased automation and modern corporate labor, cost-cutting, strategies. These measures eventually will affect and include ALL contract work, ALL self-employment opportunities and ALL small businesses, NOT JUST payroll laborers. Its easier to “pay less” or “nothing at all” to contracted or indentured “labor” when there is another willing laborer/slave, waiting in the wings, to do the work for less or nothing at all. In the past when there wasn’t enough money to go around to pay both wages & PROFITS, the “owners of capital” simply brought in more indentured servant immigrants (Irish, Italians, Chinese, etc) or flat out used slave labor (Blacks, Native Americans, domestic prisoners, POW’s, etc). The only difference between now and then is the “owners of capital” can’t LEGALLY have slaves or indentured servants. The mechanisms today that replaces slaves and indentured servants are the following: longer than needed formal education for basic employment, off-shoring of labor, forced retirement, prisoners and welfare
      The largest “recorded” wage increase to happen in history, for non-land owing, wage-laborers, post the introduction of fiat currency, was after the black death pandemic, in the 14th century, especially in post-pandemic England
      But, how was that possible?
      Because “the owners of capital”, post the black-death-pandemic, still needed wage-laborers, but there was a HUGE shortage of able bodied people. So, in order for ANY work to get done, they had to pay the peasants and other undesirables, more money, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. This principle is still at work today, when you take the time to recognize that sizable portions of the population are actively discouraged from participating in the full-time labor market. This is easily done, by throwing people in prison, forcing them to attend formal school longer and allowing more people to claim themselves as disabled or collect long/short term welfare
      After the Black Death ran its course, in the 14th century, a Peasants Revolt was triggered by the “Statute of Labourers 1351”. By 1381, the sustained wage growth for non-land owing, wage-laborers was rising so quickly that the English parliament, a few decades post the Black-Death, under King Edward III, introduced the “Statute of Labourers 1351”. This statute was used by the “Owners of Capital”, as an artificial means to drive down the wages of non-land owning peasants. Despite market conditions signalling the need for increased wages The Statute of Laborers; 1351 (“Statutes of the Realm,” vol. i. p. 307.)
      Think about that for a minute, the MARKET signaled that wages should have been higher, due to actual labor shortages caused by the Black Death, but the “owners of capital” still didn’t want to pay it, so they wrote a law saying why they didn’t have to conform to demands of the market. That’s where we are today, a form of Neo-feudalism, driven by Fascist ideology and practices. Remember the USA a former “slave owning nation”, that fought “tooth & nail” to maintain the legal right to own slaves; even turning indentured servants, whom by contract, were set to be released in 7 years, into indefinite slaves through legal loopholes.

      1. 2) The “Owners of Capital Class” are betting on the Singularity, Cell Regeneration, Mind-clones and AI to provide their creature comforts in the future. “Smartphone Addiction” is just a small piece of the overall strategy that will eventually give them total control over the masses, through the mandatory use of evasive tech. Most tech being developed today is bad for regular people whom are not part of the true “Owners of Capital Class” and its really unfortunate that regular people do not see the scientists that are creating this tech and the financiers supporting their R&D, as TRUE economic adversaries.
        Tech can be used VERY effectively, to further the indentured servitude of the remaining middle and lower classes.
        But, how is that possible, a regular person may ask?
        Remember when cell phones were actually fun?
        I do, the phone was a huge and needed to be carried in a bag, BUT my boss NEVER called me on it, after what was considered typical work hours and certainly never to ask me to do more work while I was at home. Compare that to today, when a cell phone in your pocket can spontaneously generate more work to be done outside of the office, simply because someone higher up than you had a random thought at midnight.
        Here is a second example, when my parents were in school in the 1950’s and 60’s they were told: no one would have to work in the future, that everything would be done by robots and they would, in turn, have increased free time used for creating, making art, learning and helping others…
        We all know how that turned out, mass layoffs, outsourcing due to cheaper communication tech and increased workload for those domestic laborers that remained gainfully employed within USA based corporations.
        The Singularity, Cell regeneration, Mind-Clones Cyborg Implants and Artificial Intelligence are essentially the same lie, that was told to our parents, just rehashed for a 21st century audience.
        I think its funny when regular people get excited about future tech like the Singularity, AI, Robotics, etc. Do people really think when these things finally become real, functioning, working designs, applicable to industry, that we the “peons”, will somehow ALL get a Data from Start Trek or a C-3PO from Star Wars, to help us at home, at the job site or in the office, etc?
        In reality, we are going to get a David 8 as depicted in the Prometheus/Aliens films or the Robot Probation officer seen in the Elysium movie. These automatons are going to take away jobs and make unethical policing and policy enforcement, both easier and cheaper, for the true “Owners of Capital”. Since they won’t be paying a salary to the robot worker, the savings will instead be pumped into legal fees and political lobbying, resulting in an overall good ROI for the corporations/governments and a full blown, loss of liberty, for everyone else.
        Whom goes to jail when an AI Robot or Mind Clone pulls your arm out of the socket? Will it be considered “negligence by the human that lost the arm”, a matter for a “civil suit” only, perhaps “not a criminal act”, to be adjudicated in a arbitration setting?
        I personally at this point are willing to live with 1980’s +/- era tech, if it means, I am more free and can continue to earn money to live off.
        Elysium Probation Officer photo:
        Introducing David 8 webpage:
        In the words of David 8: “I can do almost anything that could possibly be asked of me, including things that my human counterparts might find distressing or unethical”
        We are approaching an era where the “Owners of Capital Class” will not need laborers of any kind to live a life of comfort. But, our civilization is not quite there yet, technology-wise, so the “Owners of capital” need to “keep people calm and unsuspecting” until the trigger can be pulled decisively without consequence.
        So, what are the possible scenarios that regular folks will experience, during this “interim period”, while the technology needed to create the Singularity, Cell Regeneration, Mind-clones and AI, is maturing?
        The “Owners of Capital Class” will simply extract the little remaining labor wages from the lower classes, by decree, through the implementation of a cashless system. Consumers will not have choices in the future because purchases will be mandatory in some way. Policies structured like Obamacare should have taught us ALL how these kinds of scenarios will play out. Obamacare is merely the test run of how to implement future legislated purchases on a large scale. “Click-Wrap Agreements” coupled with a “cashless society” will make that transition easier for the “Owners of Capital Class” to force on the general populace.
        What do I mean exactly?
        Many forget that we now live in what “could” be considered a fascist country, with oligopolies running it behind the scenes. What usually results, is a situation where the “owners of capital”, can and will “legislate” mandatory purchases in the future, if revenue does not match their expectations or projections (for the good of the nation of course, i.e., Too-Big-to-Fail).
        So for example, if someone chooses not to buy unneeded goods or services, they will simply pay a “penalty” at tax time or some scheme involving a “negative interest rate”. The “owners of capital” have, at this point, run out of consumer goods that they can “strongly coerce” people to buy, in order to go to work, such as, gasoline, internet connection, car insurance, bus/subway fare, cell phones, suits/uniforms, soap, deodorant, razors, etc. We are approaching a day when they will simply make it law that you have to buy goods, in certain quantities before tax season (again, just like the current Obamacare that can be coupled Flexible Spending Accounts), except one day we will have an FSA to be used for ALL goods and services, and you can bet those accounts will be “use-it or lose-it”. Also, since you won’t be able to own things like the new “digital cars”, that are currently being developed, nor will you own the current “digital media” being rented on Hulu, Netflix, etc., means that likely, in the future, you could be billed for “damage to the vehicle or product” from the “real owners” of that vehicle or product at any time.
        Regular People will not be allowed to be frugal in the future because the”Owners of Capital Class” can choose, AT ANY TIME to, take close to the same amount of lost revenue back, when a person tries to save money by reducing purchases, in the form of “tax penalties” or other method (cashless, digital currency, negative interest rate, instant credit to cover shortfalls and deductions from bank accounts, ALL DONE whenever the “Owners of Capital Class” see fit). A cashless society, dominated by “click-wrap agreements” is the easiest way to structure “forced purchases” into the larger economy. Another scenario that regular people will face in the future, is when someone chooses “not to buy” and then doesn’t have the proper “proof of purchase” coupon, etc, to prove they bought these items, in the required quantities, when tax fillings come due. I can guarantee that the IRS or some other agency will have some way to calculate the amount “you should have purchased” (kinda sounds like college FASFA aid forms, in reverse, doesn’t it?). People will also have to pay a monthly fee to keep their digital money in the bank and there won’t be any alternative way to store it, without paying the monthly fee. This process will result in an instant, predictable, revenue generator for public companies, that the stock market will then feed off.
        Note, bartering used as a circumvention method has been suggested before, but the IRS already has a plan and system in place to deal with it somewhat. They will tax bartering, by an estimate, the same way they do for restaurant servers receiving tips. There will likely be HUGE penalties for barter and I will bet EVERYONE will automatically be assumed to have “bartered” some amount over the year at tax time (perhaps an estimated $500 in barter per year, that is taxed whether the person in question did any actual bartering or not). The most likely outcome though, is that one day, bartering will simply be deemed an illegal activity (likely a Felony). I don’t recall “bartering” being a named constitutional right anywhere.
        Look at solar roof panels, as another example, many local governments are taxing people for installing them because they reduce dependence on local utilities, which in turn, drives down privatized revenue being collected by the contract companies hired to run the utilities.
        Young people don’t understand that this tech, that they are addicted to, can be used VERY effectively, to further their indentured servitude. Millennial’s and the generation after them, falsely believe tech will save and unite them, when in reality it was designed by “corporate committee” to do just the opposite. The only way to prevent that shift, is for Millennial’s to immediately STOP buying such tech, opposing the development of said tech and discouraging others from buying and using it, even if it means using physical force. But, they will NEVER do this because they have “drank the Kool-aid” and are to a certain extent addicted to technology. Think about it, I’m seeing commercials for ordering pizza on a smartphone app, but whats the point, really? To appease Millennial’s? Perhaps. But, did this consuming cohort of fools take the time to think about whether it is really more convenient to type an order in on an app, as opposed to calling the order in on a phone? No they didn’t AND by using the smartphone app to place a FOOD ORDER instead of a phone, the pizza seller can then become a data broker making money by selling customer info, instead of making money by providing a quality food product.
        Then there is the issue of behavioral “data simulations” being conducted on citizens by corporations and government, eventually, to be used for revenue projections. I can guarantee that some people will not be able to be “simulated”, due to high levels of inaccuracy in the data that exists on file and is collected on them regularly. Some simple examples would be homeless people, old people that don’t use credit or the internet, and low wage earners functioning solely on cash, whom use cell phones or have utility bill etc on a relatives account, which their name is not on (I have a relative that does all of the above and couch surfs, there’s no way a simulation would know anything about him because he has virtually no digital footprint).
        Th rub is when these “behavioral simulations” becomes a real part of business revenue projections, directly influencing tax revenue projections and collection methods. These people that “cannot be simulated” will be labeled criminals and put on some kind of supervised probation and forced to adapt habits that can be tracked digitally. I can GUARANTEE this will happen. As I stated above, Millennial’s are likely the easiest to simulate already because they have already given away the keys to the castle and have no intention of taking those keys back.
        Right now most Americans are expected to and are coerced by employment requirements to buy/finance a car, buy/finance education, buy/finance healthcare, buy/finance insurance and eventually buy/finance a home of some kind.
        What do you think the “Owners of Capital Class” will do when “life-extension tech”, “self-driving cars”, “robot AI home workers”, “AI networked appliances” or “cyborg implants” become viable commercial products?
        They will simply coerce people to buy it, even if the recipient doesn’t want to have the procedure done and the methods used to coerce the general populace in the United States, will not require any additional lobbying or law changes on the behalf of the “Owners of Capital”.
        Imagine a world where life-extension tech is sold and financed to regular people, over long repayment periods, to people that don’t have the ability to pay for it, in cash, up front, similar to a cars, higher education or home mortgages.
        Want to opt-out? Sure you have the “choice” to do anything you want, we are a “free country” after all.
        Imagine the unfolding of the following fictional scenarios, resulting from a person “choosing” to NOT have the life-extension procedure:
        Do you want health insurance? Sorry, but we don’t insure people whom have not had the “life-extension” procedure. However, there is another provider which we can refer you to that will, but that company has both a high deductible and high premium, so as to reduce the coverage risk of your shorter life span, to the provider.
        Want to get a job? Sorry, but we don’t hire people whom do not have “cyborg-implants”, they cost more to insure and are un-insurable in some cases. We don’t consider this discrimination, however, because its no different than requiring you to have a car or a driver license for employment with our firm. Especially with the Supreme Court declaring that those refusing the “cyborg-implants” procedure are not considered disabled, nor are a protected class.
        Do you need a credit card or a business loan? Sorry, but we have to charge you a higher interest rate because our actuaries have found that people whom have not had the “life-extension” procedure are a higher risk, have higher unemployment rates and have lower profit margins, due to a shorter life expectancy.
        Do you need a bank account or cell/internet/communication service plan? Sorry, but we don’t open accounts to people whom have not had the “cyborg-implant” procedure, they cost significantly more to service, due to not being plugged directly into the system.
        Again, as I said above, this mandatory purchase strategy will not be limited to ” life-extension tech”. Just replace the word “life-extension procedure”, in my above example, with the word “self-driving car”, “robot AI home worker”, “AI networked appliances”, “Cell Regeneration” or “cyborg implant” and the result is the same for the regular person.
        Last, “Private Cities” owned by corporations, will be exempt from labor and civil laws. The rally to create these cities will be done in order to lower human labor costs before the Singularity, Mind-clone and AI tech fully take over, rendering regular people back to the old indenture servant system that used to exist in the USA.
        Want to get a job in a “Private City”? Sorry, but we don’t hire people whom have not financed the life-extension procedure and/or do not have an AI car or Robot home worker”.
        In a “Private City” the “Owners of Capital Class” can make ANY RULES THEY WANT, without “due process” or pesky “labor laws” getting in the way.
        All of the above also does not include fact that employers will require people working for them to hold bank accounts with negative interest rates and it won’t matter if the person is paid by on 1099 or has a W-2.
        Do you want to get paid in a cashless society? If so, you will need to have an open and active “negative interest” bank account.
        In the USA the government has the power to simply make certain actions illegal on a whim because unlike Europe, we have no real consumer, civil or labor protections. This also doesn’t account for the private banks just outright refusing to give you your money, on bank run day, requiring you to attempt to press charges against them or suing, in hopes of successfully gaining access to your funds in the far future.
        If, bank runs become a possible reality, the private banks will know well in advance and will have taken all the physical cash out of the local bank locations, before the public becomes aware. The government will also make carrying cash over a certain amount illegal, say something like, no more than $100 physical cash on your person, inside residences, private storage, vehicles or business locations.
        In summary, I suspect that the “Owners of Capital Class” in the USA will “legislate purchases”, little by little, then do a surprise unloading of the negative interest polices on existing accounts. Regular people won’t see it coming and this situation will hit them like a ton of bricks, with no alternatives to fall back on.
        All sounds swell, don’t it!
        First, AI is going to make regular people jobless
        Second, it is going to steal what few liberties and freedoms they have left
        Third, it will make human life valueless to the true “Owners of Capital”, many of whom are Closeted Fascists

        1. 3) “Technology” progresses because those with the most wealth request a technological means be created, to increase production and also to simultaneously reduce autonomy of the lower class populations (over time, as those lower class populations grow beyond the capabilities of the older technology, used to previously control their actions).
          One simple example is Amoxicillin which was created by Beecham Group, using funding provided by Bristol-Meyers. Bristol-Meyers was founded by two NON-SCIENTIST, trust fund babies, turned investors, John Ripley Myers and William McLaren Bristol.
          A second example, is a guy named Howard Florey whom showed Flemming how to develop a method of extracting penicillin
          AND it was Florey whom secured the funding to buy the lab equipment needed to conduct the work. Again, the financial drivers of why tech is developed always points back to investment by the “Owners of Capital”.
          To put it simply, old world rulers, like Charlemagne, did not need tech like cell phones to help them control their holdings, so, no investment was made to develop such technology (because they could maintain efficient control of their holdings using human capital alone, which is cheaper than having to develop a brand new, untested technology). However, on the flip side, a modern business leaders cannot control their fiat holdings without the assistance of evolving technology, like Smart Phones & Social Media, because populations today are much larger than they were in Charlemagne’s era and those lower class populations also have communication tech available to them, that would allow for then to sustain much more organized revolts against said business leaders (unionization, boycotting, rioting, etc).
          “Technology” does not “progress” for ANY of the reasons that most people are taught to believe. Technology progresses because those with the most wealth request a technological means be created, to increase production and also to simultaneously reduce autonomy of the lower class populations (as those lower class populations grow beyond the capabilities of the older technology used to previously control their actions).
          Two popularized examples of anomalous technology are the Antikythera Mechanism, which has been estimated to be from 67 BC and the Baghdad Battery, estimated to be from 250 BC. So, how would YOU surmise objects, such as, the Antikythera Mechanism and Baghdad Battery exist when they should not?
          Most people are not aware that there are archeologists, working in multidisciplinary teams along with other data scientist, working for the Feds, modeling exactly what described above. Wallstreet has also latched onto this idea within the last decade, which is why we are seeing such a huge explosion in venture capital funding and a reduction in traditional R&D spending.
          Big business and government can now predict technological advancements based almost solely on population growth trends. I worked as a grad student for a professor subbing for defense contractor in the early 2000’s, whom was working on this very topic.
          So back to my point, why do objects, such as, the Antikythera mechanism and Baghdad Battery exist when they should not? I did not give an answer, but will do so below.
          I mention the Antikythera mechanism and the Baghdad Battery because despite likely being the first of their kind, they are one-offs, with similar devices not being created until several centuries later. So, regardless of their utility and advanced capabilities, the lack of other examples proves, in earlier time periods, to a degree, that the cost to create these devices was greater than simply using human labor to accomplish the same task, at that particular time. However, when populations increased, the utility of these types of devices increased along with that growth and the costs to make these devices ended up eventually being less than using human capital to accomplish the same task, specifically during those periods with the highest localized population levels. Hence, much later in history, you see many more devices, similar to the Antikythera Mechanism and the Baghdad Battery, in the archeological record.
          I’ll give a very small insight into the portions of the DOD project that my professor was asked to work on, which were not Classified (as were the separate projects being completed by the other academic archeologists). My professors specialty was in stone age technology and his most famous work was on how climate affected what specific Stone age Technologies were developed by isolated groups, whom were not in contact with one another. He found that the pending on the temperate zone, certain Stone Age technologies were guaranteed to be developed. So despite having had no contact with one another, groups of humans separated by thousands of miles would arrive at the same technological solution, in order to solve the same problem. He wrote a book in the early 80’s, that still sells many copies today and despite its age, most of it contents still stand today unchallenged.
          Now how does all this relate to a DOD study focused on technology development?
          My professor was asked to extrapolate his research even further, to see if there was also a correlation with population growth. He found that there were distinct population growth markers that would move a society from stone age tool makers into the early bronze age. It didn’t matter where these ancient people were located in the world, nor what temperate zone they were in. When the population hit certain levels, more advanced technology emerged AND the technology developed was always the same between unrelated groups, having had no contact with one another, located thousands of miles apart. By the end of the study he had a graduated scale correlating the population level to a specific tools development. So, as was found in his study, some groups did not develop certain technologies because they never reached, the determined, minimum population level, while other groups took far less time to develop the so-called “more advanced” technologies when their populations spiked over shorter periods of time than their peers.
          Now, he did learn eventually that another archeologist, that he knew personally, was also asked to work on this same DOD project. This professors specialty area was Iron Age trash site/dumps. He was asked to do the SAME THING, in his specialty area, as my professor was, which was to track population growth milestones and correlate those milestones with the creation of more advanced technology. His findings were exactly the same, when populations reached certain levels, more advanced technology emerged AND the technology developed was always the same between unrelated groups, whom had no contact with one another and were located thousands of miles apart.
          Now consider that many other academics were asked to do the same thing for their research areas (across all ages and eras) and it becomes quite easy to see what kinds of patterns the DOD was trying to deduce. Remember this wasn’t an NSF grant, it was a private sector DOD contract (under a defense company holding the Fed contract). This was 15 years ago now, so, do you REALLY think that big corps and government, at this point in time, can’t predict specific emerging technology and then use that knowledge, attempting to corner the markets before smaller inventors can grab any portion of the pie, while developing their own products, unknowingly, in parallel with the Big Boys?
          For example, what do you think is behind the push for self driving cars? Nobody will be able to afford them for another 20 years, at least, nor does there doesn’t’ seem to be any immediate need for them in this same time frame?
          I’ll tell you why, the introduction of consumer grade, Self-driving cars, depends entirely on population growth, nothing else.
          Things will not work out quite the way the “Owners of Capital” believe it will, IF, they are successful in severely reducing the overall world population. Contrary to belief, their current power structure needs overpopulation to thrive. Without desperate hungry people trampling each other for jobs and resources, power will slip from the “Owners of Capital” hands quickly.

        2. 4) Modern Humans have been on earth for approximately 200,000 years, civilization has existed for 6,000 years and the “society” that we live in today, which has rules that we are FORCED to follow, is a little over 200 years old. What this means, is that MANY of the people whom we THINK are Alphas today, may in fact, NOT be Alphas at all. Simply put, the last 200+ years has given LEGAL advantages to crafty, backstabbing, two-faced, Betas, whom gain undeserved Alpha status, due to LEGAL protection from PHYSICAL retaliation, whereas in the previous 199,800 years of “mans existence”, these guys would have been the “follower” or quickly dispatched through physical retaliation.
          If you have any doubts, just think of people like Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg. Could either of these schmucks have lead men and convinced them to give their lives for a mere “personal conviction”? Like say, ALEXANDER THE GREAT or HANNIBAL? Of course not, BUT, people like these guys are given a type of “Alpha Status” today because they are allowed act TOUGH, without any real threat of losing their heads or getting Tarred & Feathered by disgruntled peasants.
          I’ll clarify further, “Appointed Pseudo Alphas”, are winning in America because the “unspoken rules” and “legal system” have been designed to prevent “aggressive retaliation” by disgruntled underlings. Think back to the early Teamsters tactics that were used against stubborn business owners and how you don’t see similar tactics being applied any longer. Once you recognize the overt influence of “undue physical & legal protection” by government, it becomes easy to understand why “Appointed Pseudo Alphas” rule today. Note, its not because of superior leadership, nor because of any amount of endowed masculinity. It is because these “Appointed Pseudo Alphas” are receiving undue legal protection, that keeps the hordes of frustrated Betas from ripping these “leaders”, limb from limb. The current batch of successful business leaders, that we see today, would have been beaten within an inch of their lives during the times of the Teamsters or Tarred & Feathered, right in front of their factories, in earlier times.
          In Tribal and Chieftain level societies, the males that accumulated the most wealth and children were neither the “most fierce” nor the “most “timid”. “Successful leaders” in those times tended to fall somewhere in the middle, the main reason being that the “most fierce” warriors typically died in the hunt or battle because they could not temper when to be “bold” versus “when to hold back”. Also, on the flip side, it should be obvious why the “most timid” didn’t accumulate any wealth or children in a world based on hand-to-hand battles and hunts.
          In today’s world we have set up a legal system that solely rewards the “most fierce” warriors (whom are not always true Alphas according to nature) and it is contributing to our eventual downfall. In the past, when mortality rates were high, due to living in a dangerous environment, these were the LAST people that a tribe wanted running ANYTHING. Today, these types of people get to go to the front of the line for leadership roles. Remember, just because they are “bold” and “fierce”, in a safe, OFFICE setting, doesn’t make them a real ALPHA, in the world of nature.
          If you need a modern example, look no further than the post-war years, after WWII. Who do you think returned back to the USA, alive, after the war? Was it the foolhardy? Was it the yellow bellies? OR the ones whom could properly weigh the situation and take PROPER action? The answer should be obvious because not coincidentally, that was a period of stable employment and high wages for EVERYONE. With that said, it should safe to assume that it was the most “balanced people” returning alive from the war that became “captains of industry” in the post-war years. The “foolhardy” and “yellow bellies” likley died on the battlefield or returned home too physically and/or mentally damaged to function in civilian leadership roles.
          Culturally we have had a big shift in the USA, where those given “appointed authority” seems to be trumping those that have “natural authority” more often than not. Make no mistake, the “winners” that we are seeing and hearing about day-to-day, are “Appointed Pseudo Alphas” at best. Since the early 2000’s I see MORE and MORE spineless Beta types easily surpassing people with stronger personalities and leadership ability, both in personal life and professional life. However, at one time, in the not so distant past, people displaying “natural authority and leadership” would have EASILY been the first choice of BOTH women and corporations and put in charge of most things, due to simply having REAL leadership qualities.
          What exactly do I mean and how did we get here?
          Well, it starts in K-12 education, where certain kids are publicly punished for being natural leaders and Beta Types are rewarded with leadership positions for being “yes men” and “yes women”. Other kids see this and then begin to develop an indoctrinated aversion to kids that have natural leadership, for fear of getting in trouble, by simply being around or associated with them. This mindset then gets extended into the workplace where “appointed authority” is the rule, with no exceptions being made for “natural authority” to usurp the direction of poorly run projects, useless conversations or bad policies. Once people get past a certain age, their “profiles” and “resume” begin to carry much more weight than their actual “endowed masculinity”. Sure, women don’t pine over Manginas when they meet them in the flesh, but they will pine over a “hidden mangina” with a perfectly crafted okcupid or Tinder profile.
          Do real Alpha types still clean up? Of course they do, but a LOT of “hidden betas” are getting FAR more than their share, of both “first looks” and “last looks”, than they would have received in the previous 50 years (heck, even the last 6,000 years of civilizations existence for than matter). These days, this situation applies to both the career track and the surface preferences of females.
          Note, its not specifically that women standards have risen (we all know they have not), its that women keep on adding to the list of “non essential” traits that their potential partners and hook-ups must have, at minimum. So while going over that “non essential” list of traits, women unknowing eliminate what they ACTUALLY want and end up with something that they are ultimately dissatisfied with, an “Appointed Pseudo Alphas”. This exact same scenario goes for employers as well.
          I always use the old comedy film “Revenge of the Nerds”, from 1984, as an example of where we are as a society today.
          When the JOCKS were in charge of the “Greek Council”, parties raged, un-PC behavior was tolerated and everyone was having a really good time, with few harsh consequences for bad behavior (hence the term, “boys will be boys”). As we all know now, in hindsight, when the JOCKS were in charge, people earned good wages, nobody was micromanaged (use your best judgement was a common phrase), people didn’t get fired on a whim and life in general was good.
          Then one day the NERDS gained control of the “Greek Council” and parties started sucking, people had to kowtow to PC behavior (so as not to offend anyone), EVERYONE became micromanaged (i.e. Lean) and people started having less fun in EVERY aspect of life, while consequences for uncouth behaviors were jacked up to the highest degree (i.e. zero tolerance).
          So I ask, was “life” better for EVERYONE, under the rule of the JOCKS or better today under the rule of the NERDS, whom are nothing more than “Pseudo Alphas” with “appointed authority”?
          Long live the “Betas of Nature” wielding “Appointed Authority”, I guess, to our own civilizations demise, I might add.

        3. actually you are wrong… Napoleon was a tiny little guy and pretty much of a sappy beta wimp in love with an older (pre used) woman…..
          it takes more than muscle and killing power to lead men… game is not about kidnapping the bitch and dragging her back to the cave to rape her is it now ?

        4. @JJ Cale, I addressed your ideas in my earlier post. I believe, like Ross Perot, that Trump is NOT a part of the true “Owners of Capital” class and is a type of financial anomaly, that they have been able to keep “in-check” up until now. When Ross Perot stepped out of line, the CIA put him back in his place, same goes for Jessie Ventura when he was Governor. Trump knows the “game” that the true “Owners of Capital” are playing, but contrary to belief, not every billionaire gets invited to the “Bohemian Grove”.
          When Perot ran, MANY outside forces pooled their resources to thwart his Presidential aspirations. The same thing is happening to Trump. BTW, did Perot ever get invited to or attend rituals at the “Bohemian Grove”? I highly doubt it.
          Remember billionaire Nick Hanauer‘s TED talk, named ‘Rich People Don’t Create Jobs‘? How did that turn out for him?

          Look at how many mainstream news outlets are covering the same topic:
          “Tech billionaires plot with GOP leaders at exclusive island resort to stop Trump”

        5. @JJ Cale, I clarify the timescale in my post, please re-read it. However, on your second reading, you should note that I stated CLEARLY, a period, within “the last 200+ years”. The Napoleonic Wars happened from 1799-1815, if you do a little math, that is 217 years, which fits into my “Rise of the Appointed Pseudo Alphas” timeline.
          BTW, Napoleon’s marriage to Josephine was an ESSENTIAL political maneuver that connected Napoleon to Director Paul François Jean Nicolas, vicomte de Barras, whom later gave Napoleon command of the French Army in Italy. Those “sappy letters” got him the job of a lifetime and all he had to do was woo a desperate widow.

        6. “If you have any doubts, just think of people like Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg. Could either of these schmucks have lead men and convinced them to give their lives for a mere ‘personal conviction’? Like say, ALEXANDER THE GREAT or HANNIBAL?”
          Neither one convinced men to give their lives “for a mere ‘personal conviction.’ ”
          “Betas, whom gain undeserved Alpha status, due to LEGAL protection from PHYSICAL retaliation, whereas in the previous 199,800 years of ‘mans existence’, these guys would have been the ‘follower’ or quickly dispatched through physical retaliation.”
          History is way more Beta than you imagine it. All the empires of the past were essentially Beta. Even barbarian tribes tend to be Beta internally, because while an alpha guy may overthrow the old chief by force, 99.9% the new alpha chief will try to pass power onto his own heirs. Usually alphas can seize power only when the leader/dynasty has lost the Mandate of Heaven.

        7. OrthodoxChristian makes the comment: “Neither one convinced men to give their lives for a mere ‘personal conviction.”
          Correct, as I said, people like Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs use legal apparatuses to force indentured servants in China to do labor them, some of which die during that labor process, due to poor working conditions. Without those legal apparatuses, they would quickly lose their power (in contrast, that would not have been the case for a leader like Charlemagne) Again, as I said, in the past, a group of indentured laborers would have eventually got fed up and done something PHYSICAL, in retaliation, to either the owner or his assets, as a means to end their suffering.
          @OrthodoxChristian, you CLEARLY did NOT read, nor understood, the full extent of my above comment. I clarify EXACTLY what you are attempting to describe. However, I will re-post it for you, since you seemed to have missed it:
          In Tribal and Chieftain level societies, the males that accumulated the most wealth and children were neither the “most fierce” nor the “most “timid”. “Successful leaders” in those times tended to fall somewhere in the middle, the main reason being that the “most fierce” warriors typically died in the hunt or battle because they could not temper when to be “bold” versus “when to hold back”. Also, on the flip side, it should be obvious why the “most timid” didn’t accumulate any wealth or children in a world based on hand-to-hand battles and hunts.
          In today’s world we have set up a legal system that solely rewards the “most fierce” warriors (whom are not always true Alphas according to nature) and it is contributing to our eventual downfall. In the past, when mortality rates were high, due to living in a dangerous environment, these were the LAST people that a tribe wanted running ANYTHING. Today, these types of people get to go to the front of the line for leadership roles. Remember, just because they are “bold” and “fierce”, in a safe, OFFICE setting, doesn’t make them a real ALPHA, in the world of nature.
          If you need a modern example, look no further than the post-war years, after WWII. Who do you think returned back to the USA, alive, after the war? Was it the foolhardy? Was it the yellow bellies? OR the ones whom could properly weigh the situation and take PROPER action? The answer should be obvious because not coincidentally, that was a period of stable employment and high wages for EVERYONE. With that said, it should safe to assume that it was the most “balanced people” returning alive from the war that became “captains of industry” in the post-war years. The “foolhardy” and “yellow bellies” likely died on the battlefield or returned home too physically and/or mentally damaged to function in civilian leadership roles.

      2. Fantastic essay, but how does a country fix the unemployment question when companies are outsourcing jobs to foreigners and to foreign countries and not to mention the rise in automation? Even supermarkets won’t need clerks in a decade or two.

        1. @Psquare, it cannot be fixed for those not in the top 20% income bracket. It has always been my position, that if you are not within the top 20% of all income earners in the USA and also will not be at that income level within a planned 10 year period (age doesn’t matter, just that you have a workable plan) than you have ABSOLUTELY no reason to follow instructions anymore and I really mean, you have no incentive to listen to ANYBODY. Its pointless to do so, if, you have no chance of being in the top 20% because the Elite consider those below the top 20%, as nothing more than a form of slave labor or at best an indentured servant with middling pay.
          Here is why:
          Keeping up with the basics in terms of education and on-the-job work skills won’t be enough for jobs requiring future-tech, contemporary labor market, skill-sets. The poor and even the middle class (not the upper middle class) will simply NOT be able to keep up with the skill demands for future employment, which will include REQUIRED PAY-TO-PLAY, CERTIFICATIONS, STATE LICENSING, etc., while they also somehow try to earn wages AND keeping a roof over their heads all at the same time. In the VERY NEAR future, these very high costs skills that will be needed to stay “relevant” in ALL labor markets, will only be affordable to the rich, or, possibly, to a VERY far forward thinking middle class families, willing to sacrifice everything financially, while pooling resources to keep their offspring competitive in the larger job market.
          I will begin with the usual assertion I hear in regards to the impact of these, soon to be real, “future-tech jobs”, which contrary to the beliefs of some, includes the trades and the accompanying “proprietary tech” that will not be repairable, only “replaceable by a certified/licensed tech”.
          “Someone has to get paid to fix the robots!”
          I often hear this above noted rebuttal to mass automation and current labor cutting measures, in the modern workplace, BUT it misses a subtle point that ONLY the children of the wealthy will have the opportunity to become TRUE experts in such fields. Let me clarify, through the prior 20th century, a poor kid who studied hard could become a lawyer, accountant, even a doctor sometimes, with the right combination of hard work, savings, scholarships, family support, etc. or simply started a career by going directly into the trades, learning on the job, with pay. HOWEVER, in current engineering and technician curriculum’s today, times have changed, to favor kids whom have had access to expensive software and hardware to “experiment” with and “practice” on before entering college or into their chosen training program. So, when these kids finally get to college or to their apprenticeship, those whom have had lots of “free time” to “play” with robotics and programming, outside of class, WILL CERTAINLY outpace their less privileged peer who flips burgers part-time, to pay rent and school expenses. In the recent past, being self-employed or owning a low-skill small business could partially solve this problem. Those days are LONG GONE because of greatly improved market efficiency (in fact, Roosh wrote an article on this very topic).
          Before 1990, 40% of teenagers had part-time jobs while in school. This is a relevant statistic because today only 20% of teenagers in school have part-time jobs. Teens at one time made up a sizable portion of the workforce and such changes in employment practices have shifted away from this, meaning, poor kids do not have any opportunity to build jobs skills of any kind, both before, during and even after college.
          Although not my primary point, I do think there is plenty of evidence that teens today do not have the opportunity to get part-time jobs, BUT the wealthy kids are beginning to develop advanced skill-sets that COULD be MORE helpful in their future adult careers, than say, “working at a taco stand after school”. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are very good, EARLY, examples of people who made excellent use of their free time and access to money, without the need to labor for part-time pay. During that free time they developed specialized skills that could not have been learned at a MINDLESS part-time job or even in formal schooling. In the end, they leveraged that free time learning and tech access, due ENTIRELY to having wealthy parents, into long term careers.
          Here is a modern example of a company with a big contract to fill and absolutely no “will” to increase wages to attract experienced personnel, nor the desire to train inexperienced ones on the job, while paid. Instead they put out a story on the web bellyaching, silently hoping for access to more migrant workers:

          In the link below this paragraph I have posted an example of what I believe to be a young person, from a well off family, who majored in robotics at USC. She doesn’t appear to have had any unrelated part-time jobs, in relation to her major, while in college. She also seem to have had access to “experiment and PLAY” with technology in her spare time, earning a masters degree back-to-back to the bachelors AND at the end of college, got a job offer at a University sponsored dinner party for robotics majors (NOBODY I went to college with, EVER, got a job offer at a university sponsored dinner party). In contrast, I’m sure many Ivy league and top 10 school graduates do get job offers at university sponsored dinner parties. My point being, these future “robot repair jobs” are going to require smart kids, with desire to advance, whom also went to good schools, had lots of spare time and money to play with the tech outside of school AND got their jobs offered at dinner parties (some of which will be non-paying internships at first, further selecting for children of the wealthy).
          These 21st century job offers will not be gained through sending out blind jobs applications through Linkedin or company job boards, as has been done up until now. Basically what this girl is doing for Disney will, in the near future, be more like what a plumber or electrician does today, EXCEPT you won’t get trained on the job, in a low-pay apprenticeship, when at “entry level”. In fact, to even be considered for these “future-tech jobs” in the first place you’ll need to have good academic pedigree, lots of unpaid hobby experience and 1+ years of unpaid internships. Can kids outside of the upper middle class do the same thing as this young woman? I think not!
          Here is her story, readers can decide for themselves, my opinion is that this is what a career for a plumber is going to look like in 15+ years:

          Those whom are going to be rendered jobless by automation/robotics/tech are going to be the least likely to be able to pick up these pieces, in the coming era of traditional jobs destruction. Its going to IMPOSSIBLE for the poor to go back to school, get a masters degree in robotics, in full-time only engineering programs. Contrary to what laymen believe, these programs strongly discourage their admitted students from taking part-time jobs, while favoring students who have both the money and free time, whom have NEVER work at an unrelated job to their majors and also buy expensive robotics hardware/software to experiment with outside of class.
          Mark my words the future labor market in the pursuit of “maintaining robots” or some other tech is going to be the sole domain of rich kids, with advanced degrees from good schools because NO ONE is going to train anyone else perceived as lesser, in that kind of job, WITH PAY.
          To continue my above point, I believe “rich kid” job mobility is going to be a bigger problem for regular folks, living in the West, beyond what the previous “rich kid” pedigree typically brought in the 20th century. This unfettered access to endless money and time to “explore” academics and do hands-on work, with no consequences, is going to END job mobility of any kind for the lower and middle classes, even for those whom have met the typical required higher education and work experience standards.
          Its a superstar only job market now, with no room for middle of road folks.

        1. @Tooj
          I will re-post my essay whenever it is appropriate to the ROK article in question. This is not a “one off” observation and needs to be repeated as necessary. Its contents should not be “lost” during the natural process of rolling blog comments.
          @Clever Anonymous Handle
          Thanks for reading my previous posts, however, ROK is constantly posting new content and gaining new users daily. If my past essay is relevant to the current article, I will repost as needed, so new readers can give thier insights into my thought process.

        2. Makes sense. It was odd to see this along with requisite replies repeated in at least three articles now.

    2. Great detailed post, but you are entirely incorrect about young females liking Trump. He polls terribly with them. I don’t have a single Facebook friend that likes his page.
      You also need to get off Sanders’ jock. He has a borderline terrorist worldview, and is diametrically opposed to everything this site stands for.
      I’m nervous about what could happen if Trump gets in the White House. As far as I know, there’s never been a president who hasn’t been a puppet. I’m not big on conspiracies, but I’m convinced there’s some next level shit at the high levels of society that someone like Trump would seriously disrupt. He’ll have everyone trying to get to him-foreign leaders, terrorists, liberal martyrs, US elites. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone on the inside let a security detail slip.

      1. @Graftas as for whether or not Trump is doing well with women, depends on the source of the reporting. Here is a mainstream article saying that Trump is doing well with Female republican voters:
        In addition, I believe Trump will do VERY well in California, just like Reagan did.
        As for your Sanders comment, of course a portion of his policy proposals are in conflict with the viewpoint of many ROK readers, BUT, would you prefer Sanders or “Clinton part II”. I personally prefer Sanders because it unlikely he is a part of the “establishment”.
        Do I like ALL of Sanders platform, NO. Do I like a few of his items BETTER than the ENTIRE package that Hilary Clinton is selling, yes. Remember, we are a country where the citizenry is forced to choose between the “lesser of two evils”, during elections. I prefer Trump over Sanders, but at the same time, I also prefer Sanders over Hillary, as should you.
        Now, I will also post a few web-links from his
        website (yes, I know, form a low grade propaganda) showing the broad policies of his that I do agree with.
        -Getting Big Money Out of Politics and Restoring Democracy:
        -Creating Jobs Rebuilding America:
        -Caring for our Veterans:
        -Improving the Rural Economy:
        -Reforming Wall Street:
        I personally want to see a Trump versus Sanders race.

  2. I’m not a huge fan of Trump but every time I see these lefty “Bern-victims” disrupt his rallies it makes we want to vote for him all the more. The modern liberal is a CHILD, free stuff, no sense of personal responsibility, wanting government to idiot-proof life from cradle to grave.
    I could at least respect them if they were honest that they desire complete control and destruction of any idea they disagree with, but they claim to be so open-minded and tolerant. It’s disgusting.

    1. imagine the reaction if trump supporters were to show up at bernie rallies and try to disrupt them.

        1. of course it would be a bad idea. that’s my point. we already get called the bad guy for defending ourselves when attacked at our own rallies.

  3. Now the Cumberland County sheriff is investigating whether Trump “incited a riot” when he was almost assaulted by a left wing scumbag.
    They still think it’s years ago when they controlled all the media though. People see through it now.

    1. i hope people see through it, but i don’t know. maybe it’s the very liberal city in the very blue state where i live, but my family and close friends know i’m a trump supporter, and they’ve all grilled me over the cancelled chicago rally. yes, i’ll tell them, looks like a bunch of neo-bolshevik goons managed to violently suppress a legal, peaceful political rally. “well…you’re biased” they’ll reply.
      i wish the ROK meetups hadn’t been cancelled and i’d been able to meet some like-minded guys in my area.

      1. 100% up for that. We need to re-arrange ROK meetups, but this time on private property to prevent trespassing. And if there are provacateurs, they can simply be escorted off via security.

        1. they can simply be escorted off via security.

          They can be simply punched in the face.

        2. It goes back to the Trump protestor scenario: If someone physically assaults you, fuck their ass up. Anything shy of assault, I would rather have security deal with.
          An ROK meeting is guaranteed to have provocateurs. We would need to hold it on private property, hire security, and have neutral legal observers present in case something happens.
          The police raids on Occupy and Tea Party crowds started when some random stranger no one knew started shit and disappeared conveniently before the police raided. I don’t want to see the same thing happen to ROK if, and when we do, eventually meet.

        3. Simply erect signs that say, “Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again.”

        4. You have right to self defense private property or public place. If “you go girl” empowered femtard cunt throw liquid on you be it beer, liquor, water or something else, not to mention it could be acid, you have right to bitch slap her in the face.
          If mangina beta orbiter SJWanker wannabe white knight get in your face, you have right to headbutt him.
          Action and reaction, leftards and libtards need to know they can’t get away with bullying.

      2. I think “the people” do see through it, both libtards and cuckservatives. They are sick of the establishment. They have been for a decade or two. It’s just the first Pres. election where there are candidates that seems to be coming in from the outside — libtards see their champion in Bernie, cuckservatives have chosen Trump. And now that they see hope of something, anything, besides the status quo they are rallying to their champions and pushing back against the establishment. Yeah, the established elites are scared. They should be. Just like central banks can’t fix failing economies and currencies with their usual bag of tricks, the power brokers can’t fix this derailed election with their usual tricks.
        The real problem is that if the people get their vote, the elites will have to employ drastic measures and launch a coup against the elected president to regain power in the executive. Whether that coup happens immediately, or once the un-Manchurian candidate makes it into office, who can say. I’ll guess that they’ll try to buy off the Pres. elect at first. But the problem with Trump is you can’t buy him off. At least I don’t think you can. What’s 5 billion vs 50 billions? He’s not going to need more than one Jet, one helicopter, one Trump tower, one Mar-a-Lago, or one smokin’ model wife at at time. So he’s the real pickle in the plan of the elites.
        If trump gets Florida tomorrow, it should be a done deal for the nomination. Add Ohio to that and it’s practically a lock on the nomination. Consequently, if there’s not a complete concession by the other candidates and the media that Trump is the presumptive nominee, then people are going to get angrier about the fact that their democratic voice is nothing but an illusion of their alleged American freedoms and rights. To have their voice co-opted by the powers-to-be so blatantly will be bad, very bad for everyone. Same goes for Bernie Sanders landing more blows against Hillary. Fed up Americans will be even more fed up as they see how things really work in politics and government. Having the will and vote of the people thrown aside so overtly by the establishment will upset them like a 5 year old learning there is no Santa Claus — worse, the whole thing was a blatant lie.
        It’s too late! This can’t end well.
        If Trump gets the nomination, there will be bloodshed in both parties, because Trump will make both parties irrelevant, which makes them powerless in the future. He didn’t need the party’s money, support or perhaps their nomination. He’s killed it in the primaries despite the party. They’ve attacked him like a pack of hungry wolves. The GOP coerced Trump to support the Republican nominee if it were not himself. However, they’ve already distanced themselves from Trump as the apparent nominee. The GOP is a bunch of hypocritical bullies.
        If they take him down, there will be a furious backlash from the people. Either way it’s too late for things to turn around. The people have seen the wizard behind the curtain and have lost faith in the whole system they’ve believed in their entire lives. The desperation of the GOP and Dems is showing anyone who’s paying attention that the democratic republic is neither democratic nor representative of the people.

        1. “if there’s not a complete concession by the other candidates and the
          media that Trump is the presumptive nominee, then people are going to
          get angrier about the fact that their democratic voice is nothing but an
          illusion of their alleged American freedoms and rights.” – exactly, and if he gets taken out.. people are not that stupid and the power of the MSM to pull the wool over people’s eyes is fortunately limited. It’s a new era 🙂

        1. the reaction to the chicago rally thing is really starting to disturb me. i have one friend in town who is generally conservative, and even he said something about the dumb white trash that supports trump. the “look at me, i’m a good person because i don’t support trump” virtue signalling on my facebook feed has been sickening lately. i’m an overeducated blue-state resident myself, but i think the salt-of-the-earth blue collar types actually see reality on the ground better than my kind. every time the left cynically uses “racism” as a weapon as things just get worse for regular white people, it just pushes them further into trump’s camp, while the leftists applaud themselves as they preach to the choir.
          i don’t think trump is jesus or anything, but i’m mystified at how even my ostensibly conservative friends and family members here are reluctant to support him. what is the alternative? a landslide loss in the general election by cruz? hillary or bernie? are you kidding me? i mean, yeah, you can lose your friends and probably your employment for openly supporting trump here, but you could at least commit to support him in private.

        2. My wife from Poland said paid protesters interrupt speeches all the time over there.

        3. surprised you can lose your job for admitting you support Trump. The guy embodies the American dream making all that money and now running for president. Is really a bit sad what is happening in America and also Europe because the damn libtards and SJW of every variant have taken their PC rubbish so far – people who were previously more mainstream members of society are now being forced to become more extreme and all kinds of ugliness is starting to play out.

        4. i don’t think you can literally lose your job for openly supporting trump alone, even in the ultra-liberal area where i live. where the danger lies is getting drawn into a debate. bring up something like the breakdown of murders in the US by race, or the fact that we do get a lot of crime imported from mexico and central america, then you run to risk of getting the big R label and your days are likely numbered at your place of employment. same goes for pointing out that criticizing any woman at any time for anything doesn’t mean you hate women (looking at you, megyn kelly).
          losing your friends and alienating family members for supporting trump? yes, that will absolutely happen.

        5. Unfortunately we have to keep our political beliefs under wraps some of the time until the system completely shifts. “the breakdown of murders in the US by race” – yes was very pleased to read recently that the German law has nothing against reporting the race of a perpetrator of a crime, it’s just up to each newspaper to decide what they print, not that laws shouldn’t be changed but it’s always a barrier. I think we should look closer at and campaign on this exact point – once it is exposed that the original populations have to put up with more dangerous streets and crime due to specific races, people just won’t have it anymore, as is the case after the Cologne attacks and various other violence and misconduct since.

      3. Intuition tells me that the cat is out of the bag regarding the dirty-fighting of the elites. Derailing the ROK meetups, the unacceptable protesters at Trumps rallies, facebook censoring, MSM failing to report on the Cologne mass-gropings. Now a new conservative party is upsetting the established order in German elections.. A conservative revolution is underway, the elites can try to hinder it and it will get messier but they are not going to be able to stop it anymore

        1. i really hope you’re right. maybe you live somewhere where people are less patently crazy and delusional than my area. the reaction to the cologne thing alone boggles my mind. when a white man is accused of rape (e.g. the UVA hoax) pitchforks are immediately sharpened and torches are lit, no evidence required or requested. the thousand or more sexual assaults and rapes that ACTUALLY, INDISPUTABLY HAPPENED in germany a few months are pretty much totally forgotten. if you bring them up, the inevitable reaction is:
          1) defend islam.
          2) defend islam some more.
          3) state that “not all muslims are like that.”
          4) optional: more general virtue signalling about racism and sexism. maybe some commentary on how it’s all white people’s fault anyway from the rare leftist who has some grasp of history and current events, however tenuous.
          i have yet to hear any sympathy for the victims. can you imagine the horror, a young girl being violated over and over in public by a gang of arab psychopaths while her pussified countrymen (i use the term “men” reluctantly) stand around and do nothing? and yet these leftists who claim to care so much about women have nothing to say.

        2. We really need “race realism”. It is not some scientific thing that should be taken to the nth degree like the nazis did. People in the west need to accept that there are some politically incorrect unspoken truths we need to live by re the different colours and races. Was sorry to see when I went for a run yesterday and passed a building site that it was an islamic centre in an already muslim neighbourhood. Yes, you’re right about the sympathy for the victims, there is little of that. I have not yet personally seen apart from on youtube anything like Cologne but can feel the fear and potential for it easily when I pass through their neighbourhoods. In France too, and especially. Western society might have lost its way and degenerated a bit but who in their right mind would want to replace it with muslim culture. They are like animals you should experience them first hand if you haven’t already.They are a serious menace to western society..

    2. I expect the anti-Trump establishment to send professional rioters wearing “Trump 2016” T-shirts to disrupt the rallies of the other candidates. Of course, the MSM will show this to be more “proof” that Trump causes his supporters to be lawless and violent

        1. I much prefer this one; it’s funny, but in a shaking your head sort of way.

        2. How are you able to keep your rank of Colonel after being found out to be a double agent?

      1. Agent provocateurs have been used through history. Very easy to do and it would not surprise me. The right wings in past decades would have done it to the left wing groups with phoney communist agitators, but now it would be bizarre to do it to one of the own, though he is an outsider.
        I’m sure the republication party has a dossier on Trump and will start using dirty tricks in the run home to a final candidate. I remember seeing an article attempting to smear him over his & his dad’s treatment of black tenants from way back in the early 70s.
        Its also easy to do online. Not too hard to join a movement based forum and make inflammatory comments in the forum and then later have your msm journalist/blogger friend cherry pick them for an article discrediting the movement/forum’s membership & ethics.

        1. I’ll have to change firms again this year. Aside from embracing that suck, pretty good.

        2. Shep, does this change have anything to do with the asshole women who create a hostile work environment that the HR women encourage?

        3. Nope. But I’ve had that happen before. That firm knows my services are back on the market and is courting me hard. They have offered to fire the bitch who created the hostile work environment.
          Opening offer from them is $80,000 + a piece of all the improvement I bring. And I get to keep my book, and they sign a selling agreement with a TPMM which I like to use.
          CEO is taking me to dinner Wednesday night. He says I was the best employee he’s ever hired and the only employee he ever became friends with. He is a different kind of cat, and making friends does not come easily to him. I’ve been away from his firm for 7 years now. We’ve kept in touch.

        4. Firm: “…and to sweetin’ the pot a little more, we’ll fire that bitch, waddaya say Shep?”
          Shep (feet up on desk, puffing cigar):
          “Not bad, keep talking.”

        5. Not far from the truth. It will be an interesting dinner. Earlier this year I finished a consulting job for them. He’ll have a $4,200 check, and I will have work product for him.
          He knows it has been a while since I had a real Cohiba…

      2. Yup. I think Trump has already been infiltrated by the protest-tards. Trump was correct in claiming these radicalized protesters were from the Sanders camp, well at least the guy the try to assualt him on stage. MSM had to blame the dude’s anger on Trump inciting him. WTF?
        The thing is there is a class of violent professional protesters who are convinced their cause is so sacred that violence is warranted against enemies who merely speak contrary to their beliefs. Look at the loons who railed against Roosh and us men from meeting up, accusing us of rape and promoting rape. Their ends justify their means. They are the real inciters of mayhem, not Trump. And they are so singly weak-minded that they are easily manipulated to wear the enemies colors and launch false flag incidents to attempt to bring down trump.
        It will not succeed. But Trump will.

      3. Bad idea. Then they would be sinking to their level. I know Trump said he should do it however…I think it was a more of a “how would they like it if” situation….

    3. I don’t get why they bother. People who hate trump will run with it like it is gospel truth. People who love trump will say it is the media. People who don’t care will be indifferent. What’s the point here? What is the end game? There aren’t any people who are “undecided” that they are shaping the opinion of. They are just giving something for their fans to cheer and something for fans of the other team to boo.

  4. yeah, nationalism has that effect on politicians
    it’ll pass once nationalism is normalized

  5. Donald Trump is no outsider… he’s a billionaire personality playing a role in the game to dominate the world with a global Govt. and global currency.
    We’ve been fed the line that it’s the big bad USA that wants to install the New World Order and that is going to be stopped by all these freedom fighting outsiders.. who are actually insiders… and thus we are steered and manipulated to cheer as the USA is pulled apart and we get the real New World Order that has been planned…
    In the same way that if someone asked you to carry a device that, scans your finger prints, plots your exact location, allows law enforcement to monitor your communications and even spy on you in your own home, of course you’d be up in arms, but sell you a smart phone with some pretty icons on it… and you willing pay for something that makes you a prisoner on this planet wherever you are….
    We were told the communists lost the cold war.. We were told the USA was the freedom loving good guy and now we are told the losers of the cold war, the horrid communists – are the saviors of freedom, being led by an Ex-KGB agent (that just happens to have been in power like a dictator for nearly 2 decades) is the hero…. go fuck yourself……. The tail is wagging the dog here… it’s BS. Before we know it we will be in a high tech version of the soviet union being run by a world president based in Moscow.
    Who better to bankrupt the USA than a guy whose already bankrupted every business he’s started. Who better to champion freedom and make it appear that the political class has been over thrown than a great actor and ‘art of the deal’ call your bluff honcho… that’s in on the act.
    It’s all a put up job…. the resistance on all sides is controlled from the center… throw in a messiah (which incidentally all major religions are waiting for at this time) and perhaps a bit of 9/11 type drama and maybe even an extra terrestrial arrival and you have a global theocracy… scan your finger prints in your Apple (yes we really are encrypting your phone so the FBI can’t read it circus lawsuit BS) – and make your afternoon prayers or have your finger nails pulled out and be sent to the gulag.
    There are no sides it’s a closed loop circle and you are the prisoner in the middle. Imagine today’s technology meets a 21st century version of cross between the USSR, Nazi Germany and religious cult style Sharia Law – that’s where we are headed and it’s all steered and controlled. ALL OF IT !
    And just as people were bamboozled into believing in 9/11, Yellow Cake Iraq, the need to occupy Afghanistan and just about anything the media feeds them… you will be amazed how quickly the people with their smart phone addictions will lap up the second coming, a new messiah, a global president and global currency, with strict religiously enforced laws, and maybe even an ET overlord….. (that hardly anyone ever sees, and is probably just a hologram).

    1. While I agree that East v. West could be construed as “poison as food, and poison as antidote), consider
      1) Putin and Trump, while they have their problems, are nationalists, unlike the current globalist hacks running the West.
      2) Putin defends Christians (which is atypical from most of the West), and Trump says he’ll defend Christians. Not exactly NWO (although you could argue this is a backdoor to assimilating Christians in the NWO).
      3) When the US has a spying apparatus that makes the Germans uncomfortable and the Russians envious, we’ve got a problem.
      4) I have a friend from Hungary who escaped the Iron Curtain by traveling to Yugoslavia, and swam the coast until he reached Trieste. He recently said that he would not attempt to make that trip today.

      1. they are nationalists when it suits them until some other agenda needs to be pushed…. imagine you are a script writer putting together a movie… you need protagonists and antagonists… and you control them all… people take sides and think that one is better than the other… but it’s all scripted… all of it…. world politics and with the aid of a new messiah, world religion is just a circus act to make you obey.

        1. @JJ Cale, I addressed this idea in my earlier post. I think like Ross Perot, Trump is NOT a part of the true “Owners of Capital” class and is a type of financial anomaly, that they have been keeping “in-check” up until now. When Ross Perot stepped out of line, the CIA put him back in his place, same goes for Jessie Ventura when he was Governor. Trump knows the “game” that the true “Owners of Capital” are playing, but contrary to belief, not every billionaire gets invited to the “Bohemian Grove”.
          When Perot ran, MANY outside forces pooled their resources to thwart his Presidential aspirations. The same thing is happening to Trump.
          Remember billionaire Nick Hanauer‘s TED talk, named ‘Rich People Don’t Create Jobs‘? How did that turn out for him?

          Look at how many mainstream news outlets are covering the same topic:
          “Tech billionaires plot with GOP leaders at exclusive island resort to stop Trump”

    2. Bravo! That’s what I call red pill post.
      Here’s something relevant regarding the phony demise of Communism in the East.
      Communism is alive and well, it just got re-branded as Sex-Communism in the West and as a Russian version of the National Socialism in the East. China’s got its own unique brand.
      All three worlds will be joined after the nuclear WW3!
      It’s all scripted.
      God help us all!

    3. Donald Trump is a julius caesar. He may be rich, but he’s still crushing the existing order.

    4. You make all the correct points, well said. However, you’re slightly behind the curve of true wisdom by showing your nihilism. We are witnessing the fall, for sure, but it’s always followed by a rise. It’s all a game, but it’s been misplayed and will lead to a Golden era within our lifetimes. Trump’s trying to become a leading actor in this drama because those at the top want it that way.
      We need to look to Iceland to better grasp how to do it properly: jail the central bankers, declare odious debt, disband / reduce government, severely limit immigration, become more nationalistic, demand better corporate ethics, circle the wagons and expose all the deviant shenanigans for others to understand. The Criminal Elite have a 1,001 ways of controlling us, some of them beyond the comprehension of the average guy on the street, but it all starts with our phony financial system / corporate structure / Maritime law that was hatched hundreds of years ago.

  6. Just five years ago, discussion of central banking [The Fed], the military industrial complex, and the US backing of overseas dictatorships was the stuff of conspiracy theorists. Now its a staple of open debate thanks largely to Trump, and to a lesser degree, the Tea Party and Occupy Movements.

    1. Talk of the Federal Reserve and central banking in general was never discussed until Ron Paul began talking about it in 2008 and 2012 elections.

  7. “Lula was recently humiliated by being hauled in for “questioning” in the
    country’s deepening political scandal about “corruption.” Why now”
    Same is true of the Sepp Blatter corruption scandal after Russia got the world cup

  8. Anyonewho praises Putin has zero credibility.
    Putin is a former KGB mediocrity, from the dissident torture directorate. A real admirable guy…NOT.

        1. Because a KGB torture bureau operative is the kind of guy we should all admire.

        2. Because he stopped WW3 in Syria and then in Iran, because hes destroyed ISIS, because he told international finance to fuck off, because he saved Ed Snowden, because he fights off the ZOG around the world and because the dems and Repub tell us to hate him, etc etc etc.
          Have you ever even been to Russia? Or do you just parrot CNN and FOX? You dont have to answer that.

        3. Oh, so he’s god. Hosanna to the torturer!
          Putin invaded Ukraine, rigged an election to steal territory, then invaded again. Real noble guy. No doubt you have sn excuse for that, too.
          How much is ol’ P paing you? Or are you just the slavering groupie you make yourself out to be.
          Hr is a fascist oligarch militarist dictator. You think he’s so great, go live in his Russia. If you aren’t already a Kremlin insider.

    1. Agreed. All former secret service agents in Eastern Europe now hold the power while pretending they embrace democracy and freedom. My sources inform that Putin even worked with MI6 and had a special training in Jerusalem.
      Ex-KGB’s agents can’t de-sovietize Russia any more than Gestapo could have de-nazified Germany.

    2. So because he tortured people means he’s not a good leader? Maybe I’m misreading the post. Genghis Khan and Hitler both have plenty of admirable qualities. I’ll take a good leader over a “moral” leader any day of the week.

        1. Not sure if you’re serious. Not praising Hitler. Simple stating the fact he had qualities that make a good leader. Decisive, charismatic, and others. He obviously was misled but that doesn’t change the fact that he had the potential to take Germany in a better direction. Whereas other German leaders were useless at the time to do anything.

        2. Nein, mein herr.
          He was NOT a good leader. He was a charismatic demagogue. Big difference between inflaming emotions and setting a path.

        3. I’d say he was a very good political leader for Germany, but a terrible military one. And I’m including the Holocaust under military leadership.

  9. Brazilian here. can’t disagree more about Lula, QC. he’s not an outsider at all: when he ran for president for the first time, in 1989, he was an outsider with a communist program, and he lost. then he tried two more times (1994 and 1998) with a similar program, and lost again.
    in 2002, tired of losing the election, he teamed up with the Brazilian Liberal Party, promised to keep the previous government’s economic austerity and agreed not to mess with local oligarchs from states such as Bahia and Maranhão. he won, economy went well with the China-driven commodity boom. then he, his old communist allies and his new “center” allies created a scheme to keep themselves in power for decades – the very scheme that is being dismantled by the Car Wash Operation, some 10 years after its establishment.
    besides, Lula’s government made abortion a bit easier (it is still forbidden in Brazil, but more exceptions were created), the Marxist indoctrination in school reached dizzy heights, the Ministry of Women was created (together with the Ministry of Racial Equality and a fostered Ministry of Human Rights). oil tycoon Petrobras, which is at the center of the Car Wash Operation, not filed for bankruptcy only because Brazilian law forbids it from doing so.
    I’m very sympathetic with Trump’s mindset and program, and I also like Putin’s will to save Russia from the degenerated West. but Lula is none of these. quite the opposite: you should check what philosopher Olavo de Carvalho, a Brazilian expat living in Virginia, has to say about Lula, the PT and what they did to Brazil.

    1. Brazilian here too. It amazes me how people know nothing about Brazil.
      Lula is probably one of THE WORST crooks to ever occupy a President’s
      office. His party ran on THE MOST corrupt governments in history, he
      even stole crucifixes, statues of Jesus Christ and a lot of other
      artworks from government palaces and stored it in private vaults and
      labour unions warehouses, all paid with taxpayer money.
      This bastard and his party builted a port in Cuba (Mariel), gave money to
      dictatorships in Africa and backed Chavez/Maduro “government” in
      Venezuela, financially and politically. While in Brazil we have terrible
      security, terrible healthcare, terrible roads and public transport,
      inflation on the rise, high gas prices (despite oil prices being at an
      all time low) and one of the most closed economies in the world.
      Another thing, look at the profit of brazilian banks during his and Dilma’s rule, they are as insider as it gets.
      Yesterday we had almost 4 million people on the streets around the country
      protesting against this disaster of a governement that ruined us for at
      least two decades and UK’s “The Guardian” wrote that people were
      protesting for Dilma’s impeachment because:
      “She refuses to be a part of the boys club of Brazil’s politics, where less than 9% of the Congress is composed by women and its rife with corruption, this explain, in part, the country’s recent problems.”
      They actually needed two authors two write that shit…
      Sorry QC, i enjoy your writing a lot, but this Lula piece was terrible

      1. My point was this: he may be corrupt, and his protege Dilma may be corrupt too. But that is not news. They are no better or worse than any of their predecessors. Lula’s real crime was to challenge the control of the rich elites in his country, and the rich elites in the US. For that reason, he’s now being targeted.
        He was trying to make his country independent of the global system of dominance that is controlled by the US. Haven’t you heard about the plans for doing currency deals with China and Russia, without using the US dollar? The building of separate communications systems outside of normal lanes of control? The formation of political and military blocs? All of this is deeply threatening to US control. Read this, and give me your thoughts:
        This was what got Qaddhaffi removed, among other things. Regardless of Lula’s corruption (which I don’t think was any worse than all the others), his real threat was the threat he posed to US control of political and economic systems, controlled by the US.

        1. I understand the point you are trying to make Quintus, and while that may be true for Putin and Trump, it is not for Lula.
          “Lula’s intention was to give these concessions to state-run Petrobras. Exxon and Chevron were shunted to the sidelines, while Petrobras and China’s Sinopec were favored. Elites were not happy.”
          The thing is that these off-shore oil reserves are at 14000ft below the ocean ground, this makes the extraction of the crude a much more expensive and technically complicated process. Money and equipment Petrobras don’t have, because it was completely ruined and pillaged by people with high positions inside the company that got appointed by Lula and Dilma as political favors. Billions were embellished from the company and a new elite was created, that now send their kids to study in Europe and US.
          Also, when these reserves were discovered brazilian people were bombarded with populist propaganda and demagogy, “the oil is ours”, “we are going to export oil”, “out with the american imperialists that want our oil”, that kind of bullshit. So no, Lula didn’t pushed Exxon and Chevron away because he wanted to “sting the elites”, its because his party needed votes to win the next election and, for that, he needed to pander to his voter base. Its as simple as that, governments does not requires taxes to function, they require votes.
          And Sinopec? If China stops buying brazilian commodities, we are completely fucked, it will be the last nail on the coffin of a struggling economy.
          So now we are not only unable to explore these reserves but also have rising gas prices while the price of crude is at an all time low. Also, we still need to import some gasoline and Diesel. Yippy, some independence!!
          And he is being targeted because he committed crimes, crimes that the prosecution already have a ton of evidence. He and his family are involved in all sorts of scandals with building contractors.
          “…It is to lay the groundwork for an impeachment of Rousseff, and bring about the much-desired “regime change” in Brasilia.”
          Yes, but it is the people who want regime change in Brazil, not “the elites”. We are just awaiting for a Donald Trump to rise.
          Make no mistake, he is not Trump-style “anti-establishment”, but Bernie Sanders-style.

        2. Allende posed a threat in Chile; that of removing American corporate profit. Most Americans still don’t believe or are aware of that coup.

      2. EVERY politician EVERYWHERE is corrupt. What don’t you get about this.
        The real point is, if the private oligarchy that owns the media is against someone, and the harder they are pushing against this person, the more likely the guy is good for We The People.
        If they assassinate said person, he was REALLY good for the people.
        Sheeple are out protesting because they were lead to do so.
        You only know about the corruption stories because they want you to.
        You’ve got to start thinking more critically.
        With the case of Trump, the elites know that we are waking up to their tactics, so he is 95% likely to be an elite Trojan Horse and controlled opposition leader designed to fool even the majority of people who think they are awake, like Roosh.
        The name of game is ‘limited hangout’ perspectives and gatekeeping.
        We awakened one and the semi-awakened just want a JFK soooooo bad that we’ll believe this elite secret societied Sabbatean-Frankist Zionist tribal orbiter.
        Believe me, I wish he was a real candidate, but sorry folks, these no longer exist. And if they do, they’ll be gone faster that you can say God’s Chosen People run the show.
        Just like Cynthia McKinney and Paul Wellstone.
        Even Ron Paul was a Mason.
        They are the ultimate masters of controlling your minds.

        1. EVERY politician EVERYWHERE is corrupt. What don’t you get about this.

          Yeah, but you don’t seem to get that not every corrupt politician is able to cripple his own society so much as to set in a destruction path. Lula the swindler and Dilma the evil bitch have done more to introduce American “culture” and politics in Brazil than a whole regiment of U.S. marines along with the U.S. mainstream media in a regime change operation. One would wish the destruction was limited to the realm of the economy but that is not the case.
          Think Obama on steroids. At least you don’t have the “Ministry of Women” or the “Ministry of Racial Equality and so on. That’s why Quintus assessment is so misguided. I expected him to know a bit more about Brazil. I highly doubt Lula will be arrested, but if his presidential bid is thwarted, unfortunately there will be no right wing nationalist (rational) candidate willing to take the steps necessary since there is no such movement in Brazil. Both Lula and his protegé should hanged in a public avenue for their crimes (along with their abettors).

        2. “EVERY politician EVERYWHERE is corrupt. What don’t you get about this.”
          I don’t care about that shit, for me its unacceptable! Let’s go back to a monarchy then, if the guy is corrupt his own family will take care of chopping his head off to avoid the shame.
          “…he was REALLY good for the people.”
          What happened to “EVERY politician EVERYWHERE is corrupt.”
          Buy hey, he is against “the elites”, you see, that kind of mindset is what makes young people vote for cucks like BSanders.
          Lula and Dilma were REALLY good for BANKS. They just tossed around money to get elected, so every moron could get an easy loan to buy an expensive fucking car or a house he couldn’t maintain. Due to politically connected car manufacturers and contractors lobbying they created special lines of credit to buy houses and cars. So the taxpayers money the government dumps into these programs flows right back to banks.
          Also gave shitloads of money to big industrial barons who enjoy a virtual monopoly and, in turn, produce shitty stuff that brazilian people (and smaller brazilian companies) are forced to buy because the government wants to “protect national industrial against the evil muricans”. Who gets fucked? The consumer, the Average Joe who needs to choose between low quality, expensive stuff produced through inefficient processes or buy an even more expensive import (i am talking about tools, equipments, etc…)
          Now these same industries are stalled, the whole industrial capability is crippled, millions without job, severe recession, galloping inflation. Yeah, what a hero.
          “Sheeple are out protesting because they were lead to do so.”
          “Sheeple”…tipped your fedora yet? And what about the handful of people who goes out on the street to support this disaster of a government, all dressed in red, no brazilian flags, on a week day in the middle of the afternoon. And lets not forget the haitian and bolivian immigrants that were paid R$ 35,00 and a baloney sandwich to attend their “pro-government protest” (i am not making this shit up, it happened). They dont even understand portuguese…
          If you really are interested in why we are where we are now, read these articles, they are a cold, apolitical analysis of brazilian economy on the last decades.

          Stop thinking that some messianic politician will come along and solve everything. Forget the international jew cabals for a while and focus on the crooks that suck countries dry from the inside.

    2. My point was this: he may be corrupt, and his protege Dilma may be corrupt too. But that is not news. They are no better or worse than any of their predecessors. Lula’s real crime was to challenge the control of the rich elites in his country, and the rich elites in the US. For that reason, he’s now being targeted. He was trying to make his country independent of the global system of dominance that is controlled by the US and its allies.
      The real game here is to muzzle Lula and prevent him from running in 2018. That’s the real game. I agree with the premise of this article, and would like to hear your opinion:
      But they’ll have a fight on their hands, because Lula is very capable and politically savvy. He’s going to come back: that’s my prediction.

      1. About the link you shared…
        Most of it is tripe, specially the part regarding Lula’s prosecution. Most of Escobar’s statements were taken from texts written on blogs and sites whose columnists are sponsored by state run companies, i’ve read those arguments a hundred times before. Lula and their party are scared, they are politically dead.
        BUT, we end up converging on something here. The BRICS bank. And i think this is the main reason you linked that article.
        We take the the IMF and World Bank, they are not mere economic institutions, but actually tools of foreign policy. They are like an international welfare institution deciding who gets loans and favors and who not, based on which governments keep aligned with the elites of the First World that i believe you are mentioning in your article. During the Cold War mainly, the financial muscle allowed the US
        government to buy allies, finance proxy wars and threaten the growth
        potential of foreign economies (All paid with the US taxpayer’s money, remember). Now, the US keeps marginalizing Russia and China away and even favours small European countries over larger economies down the Equator Line that have more growth potential. These outcast and “not-aligned” nations are now searching for alternatives outside of the US sphere of influence. Maybe that was the case with Qadaffi, and that got him whacked…
        The BRICS bank (and the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, AIIB, that ended up attracting multiple European partners) is an attempt to create a multi-polar financial world, outside the control of the US, with institutions that can compete with the IMF and the World Bank. This is what these “elites” fear, to lose financial leverage against the world, that the dollar might be replaced with something else. I am all in to see their downfall, and i believe you are too.
        However, a project like the BRICS bank cannot get off the ground if the nations composing it are bankrupt due to an extremely incompetent and corrupt government, like in Brazil.
        I know you already made your point that you are not a fan of Lula. But to clarify why he is being prosecuted and will probably be sentenced to jail i added a list below, these are projects developed in foreign countries by BNDES (Brazilian National Development Bank, i.e fancy name for a shitload of taxpayer’s money on the hand of bureaucrats):
        1 – Mariel Port – Cuba – US$ 682 millions – By Odebrecht
        2 – San Francisco Hydroelectric – Ecuador – US$ 243 million – By Odebrecht
        3 – Manduriacu Hydroelectric – Ecuador – US$ 90 million – By Odebrecht
        4 – Chagla Hydroelectric – Peru – US$ 320 million – By Odebrecht
        5 – Panama City Metro – Panama – US$ 1 billion – By Odebrecht
        6 – Madden-Colon Highway – Panama – US$ 132,8 million – By Odebrecht
        7 – Chaco Aqueduct – Argentina – US$ 180 million – By OAS
        8 – Sarmiento Underground Railway – Argentina – US$ 1,5 billion – By Odebrecht
        9 – Caracas Metro – Venezuela – US$ 732 million- By Odebrecht
        10 – Orinoco River Bridge – Venezuela – US$ 300 million – By Odebrecht
        11 – Moamba Major Dam – Mozambique – US$ 350 million – By Andrade Gutierrez
        Tired yet? And there is much more that we, brazilians, paid for. And who do you think was the lobbyist around the world for Odebrecht, OAS and Andrade Gutierrez? Take a guess…Never before so much money was robbed from this country, not even by the portuguese, that’s why he is the worst ever.
        This is what prompted the authorities to investigate Lula, and not the intervention of disgruntled global elites as Escobar would like to believe.

      2. But they’ll have a fight on their hands, because Lula is very capable and politically savvy. He’s going to come back: that’s my prediction.

        Well then, Brazil is fucked. This is the same guy that set in motion the chain of events that will finish off Brazilian society, destroy the relative racial harmony and turn one mediocre (albeit big and important country) into several mediocre, unimportant and smaller ones in a few decades if course is not reversed, via affirmative action for women and “minorities” (even though Brazilian society is heavily mixed), stirring up ethnic hatreds that are unnatural in a society like Brazil (Blacks and mulattoes resenting whites because they are indoctrinated into thinking that they are the source of their problems, poor against anyone better than them and with a big chip in their shoulder thanks to the public indoctr..err education system,women against men, diving birthrates and a soon to be if not already bankrupt retirement system, etc).

    3. Another Brazilian here. I don’t follow our politics as I should, but I’ll give my 2 cents of thought:
      – The real poor people in Brazil are lost. They’re sad, they feel betrayed, and they know not the actual [pseudo]populist government nor a ‘new’ government will help them.
      They know the actual government used them, and the opposition won’t help them either. That’s why there was almost no real poor people protesting against them.
      – Dilma Roussef’s people know this, so that’s why, even with protests pro-Government marked for March 18th, they’ll nominate Lula minister (Chefe da Casa Civil = Leader of the Presidency Inner Circle, to simplify) this week, to avoid him going to prison.
      – It’s the same as admitting he’s guilty, so he won’t go to jail [now], but his possibility of running for Presidency in 2018 will be – for now – close to nil.
      – It’s the same as a self-coup d’Etat, president Dilma will be the ‘president’ only in name, everybody will know where the real power is – with her ‘subordinate’ Lula.
      – The only media that really reported the protests were Brazilian media and the Clarin (Argentina). BBC, NYT, Liberation, none of them put a mobilization of 1 to 4 million people on their headlines. I found this very disturbing – and aligned with an article published here last week, that said that media was trying to control the narrative. If they’re as pro-Left as I thought they were, why they tried to hide these news? Not even to say it was done by the Right, reactionary supporters of a corrupt opposition? I just found an analysis of the protest in BBC Brazil – and in Portuguese! To the average English reader, it’s like nothing of importance happened in Latin America this weekend.
      Have any of you any idea why they didn’t give the coverage it deserved in the Anglo media??

      1. Rider:
        Yes, I agree with you. The reality is that most people reading this site are not the ultra-pobres. They are the middle class or the upper class people. And ALL of them hate Lula. I’m not saying I love him. All I’m saying is that he is probably no worse than all the other corrupt filho da putas that came before him, OK? That’s all I’m saying. And yes, ask yourself: why is the US media not reporting on all these protests to put him in jail? It’s because that’s what the elites here want. They want flunkies they can control.

        1. hmmmm I got it now. The only difference between him and the others is that he won’t be controlled by the elites like the American status quo.
          And I understand also why they don’t try to accuse our country of having some kind of ‘mass destruction guns’ [lol]. American Establishment can’t stand another Irak-like scenario.
          So, we’re too big to be lost and too big to be invaded. Easier to slay the Kings and Queens and put their own people in the place.
          Let’s see how this chess game will end.

  10. The last few weeks have made it clear that the Republican party would rather destroy itself than allow its leading candidate to win. If they steal the nomination from Trump, they’ll permanently alienate a huge percentage of their base.
    It won’t just be a repeat of Romney in 2012. Boehner repeatedly caved in Congress on a variety of issues. McConnell also caved in the Senate. This will be the final nail in the coffin for them. Conservatives will give up on the Republicans and the political process in general.
    It’s almost like Republican leadership doesn’t care.

    1. Trump has many faults but he’s the epitome of the saying “When you cut the grass, the snakes will show”

    2. The Republican party is on its way out anyways. Its long overdue. Even though Trump losing might suck in the short term it would solidify the death of a useless and destructive party.

    3. But when has either party cared about alienating its base? Who are the Trumpsters going to vote for if not Trump? Hillary? They couldn’t give a shit about the base, because they have no other choice. It’s candidate A or candidate B. The threat of pissing off a liberal by running an Obama or pissing off a conservative by running a Rubio is null.

      1. Both parties rely on certain groups of people to consistently vote in their candidates. It’s necessary for these groups to perceive that the candidates they vote into office represent their interests if this arrangement is to continue.
        This perception will be shattered for a large perception of the Republican party if the nomination is stolen from Trump. They won’t just stay home for the general election. They’ll leave the party for good and stop supporting future candidates of said party. In other words, they’ll no longer be part of the Republican base.
        Republicans will permanently lose many of the major seats of power if they deny Trump the nomination using the various methods described in the article.

        1. Logically this makes some sense, but in reality it never happens. People in America are too disillusioned with the idea that voting is super important (when in fact it’s usually a false choice at best) but this keeps them going to the polls thinking that they are exercising their power. So who is a black guy who realizes the democrats haven’t done anything to help poor blacks? And who is a Republican gonna vote for who realizes that Repubs aren’t going to stop abortions or gays or whatever their issue is? The Democrats who love gay marriages? No way.
          The only threat would be if they left and started a third party. And oh how I wish this would happen. Only with a minimum of 3 parties does one begin to have the possibility of real choice. Because real problems always have more than 2 possible solutions.

        2. It’s looking like the only way Trump won’t be the winner of the Republican primaries is if the party leadership steals his nomination. The difference between this time and the other elections is the only way the establishment can prevent Trump from being the Republican nominee is by blatantly stealing the election. Before Trump, the mainstream candidates appeared to be the legitimate winners of their primaries.

  11. I think you can put Thailand on the Putin side of the scales too. The previous ‘democratically elected’ but corrupt regime of Thaksin and his sister was overthrown by a military coup that had the general support of most ordinary Thai people. Obama and the “Global Elite” with the Lügenpresse are constantly trying to discredit the military government, which stubbornly refuses to back down.

  12. Quintis, you couldn’t be more wrong about Lula. I know quite a bit about this, and Lula (who has a 5th grade education) and his cronies, including Dilma, are looting the country and causing massive economic damage to the people of Brazil. Violent crime, kidnappings and murder have sky rocketed. The Real is in free fall against the Dollar. In may parts of Brazil, a lawlessness controls. Corruption and bribery is the rule of the day. You need look no further than Petrobras and Odebrecht; billions of dollars looted from the country. Lula and his gang of thugs are destroying Brazil.

    1. I think he speaks in terms of going along with US interests.
      yea they help themselves and embezzle it, but the point is they didn’t sign them over to foreign powers

    2. What makes you think the Real’s fall against the US dollar wasn’t caused from outside to undermine Lula. And here you are posting a comment just as they wanted on Return of Kings believing and reporting as directed by their actions to undermine Lula.

      1. The Real has been relatively stable against the dollar since last September. The peak of dollar strength is about what it was against the Real in 2003. You are just comparing the current peak against the most recent trough. The Real is not in free fall.

    3. What makes you Brazilian guys all think that I’m “praising” Lula? You’re not listening to what I’m saying.
      I’m saying that, even if he is corrupt (like every president), the US turned on him not because of his corruption, but because he does not serve the interests of US corporations.

      1. bernie sanders is the worst. he is a commie dressed as a socialist. but yeah, he is def. the second in terms of anti-establishment.

        1. They’re usually all socialists (Trump may actually be different this time). Bernie just wants to spend more of the money on non-elitist uses. And I’ll take 2 anti-establishment candidates any time. At least he wouldn’t be as much of a warmonger as Hitlery.

  13. i dont buy it. why wouldnt the oligarchs just have putin or lula killed if they were upsetting the status quo that much?

    1. To kill Lula is the same as creating a Working-class Martyr here in Brazil. His martyrdom would be used as a symbol for rebellion as strong as Che Guevara.
      It’s best to humiliate and left him alive to not feed the youngsters’ ideologies.

      1. I was just about to say something along those lines. The problem will take care of itself.

    2. I guess because they’ve lost control. Putin was KGB after all and probably knows all the assassin’s tricks.

  14. I do not look at South America as any kind of political or economic example ever. Lula is a fucking clown and will be exposed. Putin is ok because he is defending his own nations sovereignty. America routinely overthrows governments by proxy for better or worse. This isn’t going to change.
    I am not sure what to make of this article. Feels like Quintus is holding back on something.

  15. Another great article by this man. I have written a half dozen on the same topic to various outlets with the same sentiments. Whatever we may think of Donald Trump, the fact that the Establishment on all sides of the coin are in fear of his ascendancy should tell us something very clearly: that the false democracy of the past 50 years is on the verge of collapse. And if the Donald comes through, America may become the first country in the West to seriously move back to its right wing, working man’s Christian roots–with a little bit of Jerry Lee Lewis thrown in for good measure…

  16. Absolutely fantastic article. Trump isn’t perfect, but nobody is. Putin isn’t perfect, but they are both the best option we have to overthrow the psychos and traitors that are in control now. Thanks Q

  17. Have Trump supporters studied what the RNC did to Ron Paul? Ron Paul’s support was meager compared to Trump and the RNC cheated at every opportunity to stop his supporters and delegates. They even had people arrested. Trump’s campaign unless they have paid attention to the articles the libertarians have put out on what was done to the Ron Paul campaign they are going to lose the nomination.
    If they manage to get it Trump will end up with an establishment vice president for the general election. If elected there are only two things that can happen then from the establishment. See Nixon, JFK, and Reagan. But there’s a good chance Trump will play ball and make all of that unnecessary. He’s already surrounding himself with establishment people.

    1. Of course he would play ball, he’s a good businessman. He was kissing Clinton’s ass when it suited him he would do it again if it needs to.

    2. Re: Ron Paul’s support–Ron Paul had huge support, when you look at him early on. If you compare them early, before the primaries, I’d say the support was similar for the two candidates. Plus Ron Paul had a TON of crossover support–independents, nonvoters and Democrats–Trump does as well but to a lesser degree. The difference was Ron Paul was always marginalized, given minimal coverage, discounted, made fun of, ignored, sometimes his poll numbers weren’t even REPORTED when he outperformed other candidates who they would report numbers for. But with Trump, he was already a celebrity, so even if the “news” departments didn’t want to cover him, the “entertainment” departments already were.
      They really destroyed the Paul campaign by constantly attacking and berating him and talking about how he could never win. I think he had the potential to be at least as big as Trump. Almost all of my friends throughout the political spectrum liked Paul’s ideas. But in the end they didn’t vote for him because he was made to look silly and weak. Whereas Trump has that aggressive alpha personality and high media coverage and ignoring him is simply not an option.

      1. Which has led me to believe Trump appeared on Fox in the mornings and ran reality TV for a secret reason; to defeat the media, using their own incentives against them. Seeing the media’s main power rendered moot by their own hand is what makes this entertaining.

  18. Here on RoK one can find hundreds of articles preaching how a real man has to be assertive, independent and single-minded as opposed to women who prefer to be dependent on the state and look for a safety cushion and YET all the articles are pro-Trump and it seems most men here are seeking for a messiah to save them.
    Isn’t that beta?
    A proper red pill ideology would seek to reform society from the bottom up, so it should automatically reject any person from the top who promises hope and change or making America great again.

    1. It has to start somewhere. I’m not from America , i don’t know anything about Trump but frankly in my country all the rulers were the same breed. Same wolves in same sheep’s clothing. I lost hope in democracy as a whole , there needs to be invented something else.

    2. Being a man has always included playing a part in the body politic. If the definition of a man in the context of “alpha” means he can only be so by being the apex alpha who leads nations, well, it kind of invalidates the entire concept. Alpha is situational most of the time. Even Putin likely properly deferred to his father at one time.
      I can’t speak for others but I’m not looking for a Messiah and I’m not particularly fond of Trump (although I would like to see that wall built, I’ll tell you that much for free). That said, we have only so many tools at our disposal, outside of violent uprising, to use to try to change the course of this lumbering, bureaucratic nightmare of a government.

      1. That wall idea is stupid. Remember the Haitian and Cuban boat people? There are 4 million of them (and their children) now in Florida. So with a Trump’s Apartheid-style wall, instead of crossing the border on land, those who would want to come to the US from Mexico could just do it by boat while the drug dealers could utterly dig more tunnels. Simple as that. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

        1. In Western civilization we discovered these things called “coast guards” and “navies”, as well as coastal stations and machine guns, to handle invasion by ocean.
          We had almost no immigration between 1920 and the 1960’s. Seems to me that controls in fact worked rather well.

        2. Yes, gun control is far more effective than wall. I’ve served as border guard. If the wall is not manned it’s useless and you don’t need a very big wall either, just shoot one trespasser and the rest will learn their lesson rather quickly.

        3. Gun control?
          Not so much.
          Unless you meant controlling where you hit your target when you shoot invaders, in which case I misunderstood and in fact agree.
          I’ve been a proponent of the “mow down the first few waves and the word will spread” method for a while now. People think it’s barbaric, but nobody can question its effectiveness.

        4. Yes, I mean controlling by using guns.
          It’s not barbaric at all. In Europe a lot of refugees are dying while trying to get to Europe and many are suffering. Those that do make it face hostility and shitty northern European climate If the army shot down few of those crazy immigrants it would have saved a lot of lives and unnecessary suffering.
          No wall is gonna stop them though. In fact it makes it even more appealing to find out what’s behind it.
          So Trump’s wall is a stupid, stupid idea and anyone who buys it is twice stupid.

        5. I like your gun Idea, but let’s not forget the UN is involve as well, so killing people at the border goes against human rights codes. Now, building walls is not stupid because it has worked in several countries .. in the end mexico will pay for it anyway.

        6. Gun control=weaver stance, hold your breath and squeeze, do not jerk the trigger…

        7. Israel has a wall, it works. Plus guns. I say let’s split the difference and do both!

        8. You should see the size of Jeffy’s gun 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😛😝😝😝😜😜😝😝😜😜😝😝😛😛😛😝😜😛😝😝

        9. How so? If we only have guns, they can overwhelm us with numbers. With a wall it becomes exponentially more costly to do this. It’s why the strategy has worked throughout history. Though I would take a minefield over a wall.

        10. Israel is a case against a wall, actually – isolated and surrounded by hostile neighbors. TheUSA is a Christian country – what happened to “Love Thy Neighbor”?

      2. It was men that created civilization and civil order in the first place. Much like the men that founded this nation. Beta males are the ones being tricked into the blue pill mind set to support the madness we have now.
        Voting in a man like Trump is an act of kindness over whole sale blood shed of the ruling elite class and their supporters.

      3. How much of a man are you Jeffy? Xxxxx Are you man enough to admit you love getting that tight little arseholes pounded? 😜

    3. That would be all fine and dandy if we didn’t have those overlords rebutting every change we try to make from down here. The fight needs to be brought to them, and Trump is the best option at the moment.
      I’m not even from America but these are interesting times.

      1. Why is he the best option? Is it because he trolls them best?
        Your choice of a leader is a troll?

        1. There’s no other option, or would you rather vote for Rubio or Cruz? or even worst Killary? Trump might not be the perfect candidate but he is by far better than those I’ve mentioned including our current gutless president.

        2. A troll because he offended your fee-fees? Besides, that implies any of the other candidates are any good.
          We need more leaders that have some balls.

  19. The “liberal democracy” game is over.Its worn out.It will be replaced by a cultural marxists dictatorship and you wont have a choice.Obey to your masters ! Hopefully once the veil is lifted and the ugly gorgon face is in broad daylight more men will wake up and fight.

    1. I doubt it. The Trump case shows that even people who aspire to logic and reason can still be lead by the nose.

  20. The worst part about this whole thing is that someone who really felt the way trump talks might actually help. As it is, trump is capitalizing on people who can’t stand the establishment by trolling the establishment and getting them to attack him. It is a simple and, frankly brilliant, strategy.
    Everyone hates X. I antagonize X. X hates me. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Bang, popular support.
    The problem here is that he is just running a “confidence game” or “short con.”
    Here is Joe Montaegna pulling off exactly what trump is doing in the movie House of Games.
    At the very best everyone gets to have a big circle jerk on election day and celebrate beating the establishment and then it is back to business as usual. Like the Who said… the new boss, same as the old boss.

    1. You basically made my post for me. Donald Trump is about as anti-establishment as Romney. Dude’s a billionaire who expertly wields government to his advantage and has for most of his life. The scent of a used car salesman telling you everything you want to hear is very pervasive with Trump. When he turns around and shakes the hands of his establishment friends after elected there are going to be a whole mess of really, really angry people. They can’t say that they weren’t warned though.

      1. How angry will they really be. No one seemed to be deterred when dubya was walking around with Saudis in their pajamas. I don’t have a horse in the race. The only way to win, in my opinion, is by not playing. It isn’t that I think the vote doesn’t matter or even that the winner doesn’t matter, just that the whole concept of power is a button on a street post for you to push over and over again while you wait for the light to change. If people could really change the light by pressing that button the entire concept of civilization with roads would collapse.
        It is sad, because the people who really love trump love him for the right reasons. If he was who he is saying he is it might be a good thing. People are so tired, really to the point of utter exhaustion, of the establishment that they can’t see that they are not just buying the used car, but being talked into the undercoating as well.

        1. With Dubya nobody was this fed up with the establishment. Since Obama came to office the general population, except big cities, has handed the GOP overwhelming victories with a specific directive to “stop this bullshit, now!” and the GOP smirked and did nothing with those seats. This happens with Trump, who I think most see as the last best hope of reversing course, and I expect bloodshed in short order. Maybe not a year, but no more than five. The Establishment literally is naked before us right now and everybody can see them and their lack of care for the population. It could turn pretty damned ugly.
          Dubya was just a clown in most people’s eyes. That why there was no real anger, outside of the usual suspects on the Left who couldn’t see that he was one of them.

        2. Not so sure people weren’t upset with establishment RE Dubya. It was def not as pronounced but when both parties ran a bonester from Yale a lot of people rolled their eyes. My point, however, is that even after 9-11 a US President who was building his entire reputation on being a tough guy out to get terrorists and make america safe was practically making out with the head arab and other than a few corners of the internet no one flinched.
          Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying that if (when) Trump reveals that he is as big a BS artist as all the rest and just as much or more a part of the established order (as he benefits from it greatly) that people shouldn’t be upset. I am saying that most people are going to fall into full on reaction formation and ignore what is right in front of them rather than admit they were taken for a ride.

        3. The Château mention that Trump start off his bid as a joke and become serious when he realize he can win. Trump is trolling the establishment, but the establishment is is using everything short of murder to remove him from the ticket at this moment. I don’t think Trump going to play nice with them after the crap they are going to put him though. There one other factor that may point to him not playing nice with the establishment: incompetence. No one give damn about corruption until the day that day to day living becomes impossible. In the US, we are reaching that point with the establishment will destroy the engine of the economy for a chance for quick cash and to appease their shared ideology of socialism/marxism/leftism.

        4. Maybe. But it would seem to me that as much of a troll trump is he will do anything to increase his wealth and anything to avoid decreasing it. Anyone who can be controlled by wealth will be very easy for establishment to play with.

        5. this is the thing, “day to day living becomes impossible”. The necessary changes are happening so slowly cause a big chunk of the population just will not care until that happens

      2. Trumps s strange choice for a man crush, but each to their own Jeffy. See, that’s what I like about you, all your little idiosyncrasies. Don’t change babe xx

      3. The choice is do you go with the guy that is at least not attacking you, or do you go with the guys that openly advocate throwing you under the bus? Trump may be a lying asshole, all politicians are and he is one now, or he may not be. I know the others are lying assholes, or, in the case of Bernie, a true believer that wants to do me harm.

    2. Brilliant! However, I am hoping with Trump, it will be different…

      1. I can’t blame you for your hope. I think it probably comes from a good place. I do think your hope will be repaid with a huge let down, but that might just be the cynical bastard in me. Either way, time will tell.
        In the meantime, I honestly don’t think any of it matters. For this reason and this reason alone I hope trump pulls it out just because watching people go bat shit about it will be entertaining to me.

        1. Am I being too cynical if I say that politics has become totally irrelevant and that its only useful function is its entertainment value? Because if that is true a Trump presidency will be a hoot.

        2. I don’t know if it is too cynical or not but I agree with this sentiment 100%. Obama said that Trump wont win because the presidency is not a reality show. Obama is dead fucking wrong. That is exactly what the presidency is. A big show that people pay attention to for vapid entertainment meaning exactly nothing and trump will be excellent at that. I am going to laugh my ass off.

    3. For most people. I just want specific things out of him. Like a border wall and some resistance against foreign nations and even domestic businesses building insurmountable barriers to entry to every large market. Like how medical insurance companies made drawing lines between states legal, and then proceeded to ‘legally’ price-fix until it appeared we had a need for ‘universal healthcare’, leading to the biggest leap the companies had ever seen in their stock due to them having a virtual monopoly. Or how every country is running quantitative easing + restrict imports against us.

  21. Lula is a Che follower. Che murdered his way to Cuban communism. I’m wary of those looking to nationalize private industry. It leads to less for all, which ultimately hurts the regular guy the most. See Venezuela’s Chavez. No bread on the shelves, government doesn’t perform even basic duties…

    1. I’m not so sure that Quintus was praising Lula. He seemed to me to be saying that him and a few other world leaders are not bowing to the D.C. and E.U. elites and are thus targets of all kinds of dirty tricks and plays. For example, Saddam Hussein was like this, so was Kadaffi (sp). That doesn’t mean that they are or were good men, only that they refused to color within the lines of the NWO coloring book.

      1. Agreed. Many times populism will have a leftist lean, precisely because once you get power so strongly consolidated in the hands of an elite group, anything besides the status quo will seem socialist in comparison. That doesn’t mean that supporting reforms which benefit the people should be taken to the extreme end of establishing a socialist state.
        Saddam did many great things for his country, while also being a harsh ruler who sometimes used violent means (nothing like what has been going on over there for the past 15 years however). You don’t have to praise a man, especially a politician, in order to agree with some of his actions.

        1. I never understood the hatred for Hussein. He formed the only secular state in the ME that gave most people a level of rights, and certainly wasn’t hurting their economy. Sure, he killed Kurds, but then so did the Turks, as well as a lot of other places, by the boat full and I don’t recall any of the world leaders saying anything cross about it. I wouldn’t have wanted to live in his nation, but it was a long sight better than most hellholes in that shitstain of an area.

        2. Does your mother know that you’re out? Don’t worry, if you fancy a bit of rough and tumble, we’ll take it easy, nice and slow, I hear that’s the way to go 😂xx

      2. Agree. Lets not forget that Lula raised up the Brazilian economy after decades of stagnation and inflation. He turned many of the low income population into middle class. And reduced crimes noticeably.. now, about morality, sometimes a leader needs to go out of the line in order to get things done, especially in under-developed countries in which one needs to be resilient.

    2. This is the problem. The nationalism they have will lead them to try and grow, and they also have a large population. But this may turn out like China, where the former peasants tried to do the physically impossible and create steel in shacks: growth until the limit of population with central control, and then crash. Governments do not tend to care if people work themselves to death in these situations. And working yourself to death means nothing if it fails to produce an overall genetic quality (assuming such a sacrifice is justified or made). There is hope, but tragedy is right behind the curtain.

    3. O.K. cool. I consider Obama NWO. When he fist bumped Chavez and countenanced South American left-lurching, I assume Chavez is approved by NWO leadership.
      I get your point, too.

  22. Excellent. To paraphrase Casablanca, I am “shocked, just shocked” that I have never heard about Brazil’s Lula before from western media.
    When faced with a leader putting his people’s interests ahead of that of US corporations, the M.O. in the past has been for America to use soft power, then economic power (see: Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins), then military power (see NUMEROUS regime changes, especially in Latin America but throughout the world) to prevent this from happening. The power for the US to do so has been greatly weakened.
    Diplomatically, wikileaks cables and other revelations have shown how the US is duplicitous and does not have that nation’s best interest at heart. Economically, we have devalued and destroyed the power of our currency, and through recession and waste will soon be slipping behind China and other blocks (EU, BRIC) if we haven’t already. Militarily we are bogged down with a 15+ year in the Mideast that we can’t quite seem to win and overstretch with hundreds of thousands of troops spread throughout the world on permanent government pension with no real mission, and over 800 foreign military bases, despite no measurable foreign military threat to America (and what little threat there is can be almost fully attributed to said bases and American aggression).
    Trump, flawed though he is, is merely trying to do what Lula and dozens of others before him have tried to do–put the interests of the people ahead of the interests of the elite. Almost every time, this ends in failure on the side of the reformer, and often in violent overthrow, war, and assassination. I don’t think the US will need to go to such lengths, primarily because they will use other tools at their disposal to prevent a President Trump from ever taking power, or from castrating any power on the off chance that he is elected, but rest assure, that tool is still in their box and they will not hesitate to use it.

  23. trump is doing a great thing by upsetting the order, he’s opening a lot of people’s eyes. but just like when old building are destroyed, what you do after with the clean up and building new is much more important.
    my greatest question is what next? because there is a huge probability that he will not get elected, but the damage has already been done.

  24. QC, I get why Trump and Putin are awesome and anathema to the globalists’ wishes.
    But you are dead wrong about Lula. He’s not someone who advanced his country in any significant way. He’s just a caviar socialist opportunist that ransomed welfare checks to get his successor into office.
    And the fact that he’s getting caught now isn’t in any way a convenient coincidence but the inevitable result of a major (ongoing) investigation of deep systemic corruption which goes all the way to the top in which the state company Petrobras was being used in all sort of manner to line contractors’ and politicians’ pockets.

  25. “Working more and more for less and less”
    Tell that to my grandad! Make sure you have a few hours spare. Ear defenders highly recommended. I keep saying it but this is not 1984. It’s Huxley’s Haven..

  26. I have a serious problem with this, gentlemen. At the risk of facing the ire of my brethren, here, I must say that as far as I am concerned, Trump is merely another golden idol that we are meant to unify behind in order to distract us from what is really going on.
    The political system is BROKEN. We know this. Why does everybody suddenly say to themselves “No, THIS guy will be different.” No he won’t, anymore than Reagan was. They are ALL colluding, ALL your enemies. As long as we pretend otherwise, they win.
    And while I do enjoy watching Trump (he’s a charismatic guy and a lot of fun) I wouldn’t trust that guy any further than Shapiro could throw him. As far as I can see, the man isn’t loyal to anything but himself. Not that long ago, the man was a Hillary supporter and a democrat. His businesses have all failed. He has no sense of fiscal responsibility. Why would you want him for president? Because he gets laid? Hell, vote for me!
    I get that the man is the best option out of the lot (on paper) but the lesser of two evils is still evil. Stop voting. It isn’t doing any good. It just let’s them know who you are.
    And as a side note; perhaps it is my overly paranoid nature but the biggest strike against Trump for me is exactly all of these little incidents like the Chicago riot and the nonsense over at Breitbart. Is it really just me or don’t any of these things seem a little too pat to anybody else? It’s almost as if they are creating an opposition to him just to stir up the populance….

    1. Agreed- a compromised system will not produce an independent candidate that’s not part of the system a la Trump. Its all political theatrics.

  27. Lula is shockingly corrupt and about as incompetent. He left Roussseff with a shocking budget deficet and wasted Brazils wealth on welfare that made millions pathetic dependants. Now that oil prices have collaped the leftist government is seen to have no clothes.

  28. If you’re expecting them to fight you’re sadly mistaken. We’ll have a War. but these chickens are gonna run. They’re riling up the apes in Ape Shitty and bringing in Terrorists to get some guns on their side, but at this point they got nothing. The Army is tired. They’ve been on a wild goose chase for over a decade and they’ve got shit to show for it. Morale is in the crapper. I hear Mr. Affirmative Action hisself has diversified the officer corps so it’ll be like playing chess with monkeys I presume. The cops are getting shot by Soros’ domestic terrorists BLM. They were supposed to target White cops, but these dummies don’t know how much hate for badges these simians have. If you’re a meter maid you better wear civvies cause these apes are shooting anything with a badge. Never hire stupid henchman Dr. Evil wanna be.

  29. Don’t agree that the BRICS represent an independent alternative to the western fiat financial system. It’s all a ruse. Brics is cut from the same cloth what with at least two of its top executives coming from the elite- one an ex Bank of India Executive and DAVOS boy and the other a former leader in the IMF. Follow the money trail.

    1. The BRICS is probably the world replacement financial system to the Western one but under third world management. With management being the operative word- the owners being the same old…same old…..

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