How Brave New World Author Aldous Huxley Foresaw Modern America In 1958

Brave New World is one of the most important novels of the 20th century. Aldous Huxley’s novel anticipates developments in reproductive technology, sleep-learning, psychological manipulation, and social conditioning that combine to change society into a dystopian hell. More than just a novel, it is a social commentary that has withstood the test of time and is more relevant today than when it was published in 1931.

Huxley was interviewed about his novel by Mike Wallace for ABC television in 1958, and Huxley’s predictions are astonishing in that they accurately portray life in the world we have awakened to in 2016.

The full interview can be seen here, and some of the most important segments of the interview are analyzed below.

Not A Conspiracy Theory

Rather than being some “conspiracy theory” (which, incidentally is a CIA-created code word to discredit people), the ideas of Huxley instead appeal to man’s often sociopathic lust for power and control, which is the force driving today’s Anglo-American cultural Matrix. Huxley explains this idea:

I don’t think there are any sinister persons deliberately trying to rob people of their freedom, but I do think, first of all, that there are a number of impersonal forces which are pushing in the direction of less and less freedom, and I also think that there are a number of technological devices which anybody who wishes to use can use to accelerate this process of going away from freedom, of imposing control.

Huxley foresaw the bureaucratic, authoritarian, micromanaging government the United States now lives under. The following passage illustrates that.

Another force which I think is very strongly operative in this country is the force of what may be called of over-organization. As technology becomes more and more complicated, it becomes necessary to have more and more elaborate organizations, more hierarchical organizations, and incidentally the advance of technology is being accompanied by an advance in the science of organization.

It’s now possible to make organizations on a larger scale than it was ever possible before, and so that you have more and more people living their lives out as subordinates in these hierarchical systems controlled by bureaucracy, either the bureaucracies of big businesses or the bureaucracies of big government.

At The New Modern Man, we call this collusion of big business and bureaucratic interests the Corporate-Government Complex. This infographic explains the concept.

The intersection of big business and government interests Huxley warned about is today's Corporate Government Complex

The intersection of big business and government interests Huxley warned about is today’s Corporate Government Complex

How The Corporate Government Complex Expands Its Power

Huxley knew that having an educated populace was not insurance against total brainwashing by propaganda methods. In America, these methods were perfected by Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud. Bernays invented the principle of using corporate and government propaganda to “engineer consent” by shaping the thoughts, values, and responses of the masses. Bernays proved those who create knowledge and propaganda rule over the rest of society. Huxley continues:

Hitler used terror on the one kind, brute force on the one hand, but he also used a very efficient form of propaganda, which he was using every modern device at that time. He didn’t have TV, but he had the radio which he used to the fullest extent, and was able to impose his will on an immense mass of people. I mean, the Germans were a highly educated people.

Just as Huxley predicted, advancing technology has imperiled the principles of freedom in the 21st century. It started with television, but has since advanced to smaller and smaller devices with the current goal of microchipping the entire population, rendering them subservient to financial interests and the state. Huxley goes on, proving that not all progress is good progress when it is hijacked by an elite who want nothing but pure power.

What I feel very strongly is that we mustn’t be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology.

This has happened again and again in history with technology’s advance and this changes social condition, and suddenly people have found themselves in a situation which they didn’t foresee and doing all sorts of things they really didn’t want to do. It’s not creating a wide front of distraction it’s creating a one-pointed, drumming in of a single idea, all the time. It’s obviously an immensely powerful instrument.

Today's mind-altering drugs like SSRIs are the Somas from Huxley's novel

Today’s mind-altering drugs like SSRIs are the somas from Huxley’s novel

Soma

Huxley foresaw today’s current medical-pharmaceutical complex, in which the media (the creators of knowledge and propaganda Bernays discussed) persuade the masses to believe the solution to every problem they have in life is a trip to the doctor and a pill.

There are frightening similarities between Huxley’s soma and today’s SSRI antidepressants. Huxley talks about somas with Wallace:

This is a very interesting subject. I mean, in this book that you mentioned, this book of mine, Brave New World, I postulated it a substance called ‘soma,’ which was a very versatile drug. It would make people feel happy in small doses, it would make them see visions in medium doses, and it would send them to sleep in large doses.

I think it’s quite on the cards that we may have drugs which will profoundly change our mental states. I mean, this is the… the pharmacological revolution which is taking place.

Indeed, SSRIs are dangerous drugs as they alter the brain in such a way it becomes dependent on the drugs, and are strongly correlated with mass shootings. Drugs are only one aspect of his vision for dystopia which have come to pass. Huxley went into detail about how propaganda would be used.

Today's media runs purely on a propaganda model

Today’s media runs purely on a propaganda model

Propaganda Techniques And Scientific Dictatorship

Huxley knew that a dictatorship of the future would rely on propaganda instead of only relying on brute force, as had always been the case in the past.

Well, to start with, I think this kind of dictatorship of the future, I think will be very unlike the dictatorships which we’ve been familiar with in the immediate past. I mean, take another book prophesying the future, which was a very remarkable book, George Orwell’s 1984.

This book was written at the height of the Stalinist regime, and just after the Hitler regime, and there he foresaw a dictatorship using entirely the methods of terror, the methods of physical violence. Now, I think what is going to happen in the future is that dictators will find, as the old saying goes, that you can do everything with bayonets except sit on them!

Huxley knew the days of using bayonets or force was passing, and instead the elite were working on scientific dictatorship, a type of dictatorship which uses science in a perverse way. Instead of advancing the human species with science, the elite subjugate the human species with its knowledge.

Pushing Cultural Marxism and taking The Long March approach, tearing down traditional Western institutions one by one starting in the 1960s, progressing with the “limited learning for lifelong labor” educational approach exposed by whistleblower Charlotte Thomson-Iserbyt in the 1980s, and arriving at today’s exposure of the media as a mass brainwashing tool by the arrival of the Internet, is how the following predictions of Huxley have played out in the real world.

But, if you want to preserve your power indefinitely, you have to get the consent of the ruled, and this they will do partly by drugs as I foresaw in “Brave New World,” partly by these new techniques of propaganda. They will do it by bypassing the sort of rational side of man and appealing to his subconscious and his deeper emotions, and his physiology even, and so, making him actually love his slavery.

I mean, I think, this is the danger that actually people may be, in some ways, happy under the new regime, but that they will be happy in situations where they oughtn’t to be happy.

Having spent a decade in the media, I know full well how advertising and persuasion works. As Huxley knew, and Bernays proved, effective propaganda and advertising bypasses rational thought aims directly at the subconscious desires we all have.

[The candidates in the 1956 election] were being advised by powerful advertising agencies who were making campaigns of a quite different kind from what had been made before. And I think we shall see probably, all kinds of new devices coming into the picture. I mean, for example, this thing which got a good deal of publicity last autumn, subliminal projection.

I mean, as it stands, this thing, I think is of no menace to us at the moment, but I was talking the other day to one of the people who has done most experimental work in the…psychological laboratory with this, was saying precisely this, that it is not at the moment a danger, but once you’ve established the principle that something works, you can be absolutely sure that the technology of it is going to improve steadily.

Authoritarianism works best if you can make people love their slavery

Authoritarianism works best if you can make people love their slavery

Socially Accepted Authoritarianism

Huxley warned of the Managed Democracy and Inverted Totalitarianism we now live under in America today. In effect, people still get to participate in free and fair elections but the choices they get to make do not change the overall system one iota. This is the “Demican” and “Republicrat” phenomenon of today, with parties as two heads of the same hydra. The illusion of choice is given to the masses by the media and advertising.

Advertisement plays a very necessary role, but the danger it seems to me in a democracy is this…I mean what does a democracy depend on? A democracy depends on the individual voter making an intelligent and rational choice for what he regards as his enlightened self-interest, in any given circumstance.

But what these people are doing, I mean what both, for their particular purposes, for selling goods and the dictatorial propagandists are for doing, is to try to bypass the rational side of man and to appeal directly to these unconscious forces below the surfaces so that you are, in a way, making nonsense of the whole democratic procedure, which is based on conscious choice on rational ground.

The following passage from Huxley’s prophetic interview touches on how feminism has taken women out of the home, and how today the state indoctrinates children with propaganda (careerism, the government is a god of sorts in the absence of religion, etc.) from a very young age. As Fabian Socialist Bertrand Russell put it, influences of the home with a mother and father in it are counterproductive to what the social engineers want to accomplish. Huxley continues:

This whole question of children, I think, is a terribly important one because children are quite clearly much more suggestible than the average grownup; and again, suppose that, that for one reason or another all the propaganda was in the hands of one or very few agencies, you would have an extraordinarily powerful force playing on these children, who after all are going to grow up and be adults quite soon. I do think that this is not an immediate threat, but it remains a possible threat.

As Huxley warned, propaganda is a frighteningly powerful tool. With it, the spinmeisters have been able to turn environmentalism and global warming into a religion, as best-selling author Michael Crichton knew. And, as Lord Acton said, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. What we see today is not a conspiracy as much as it is misplaced power in the hands of the wrong people. Huxley said this to Wallace:

I think one of the reasons is that these are all instruments for obtaining power, and obviously the passion for power is one of the most moving passions that exists in man; and after all, all democracies are based on the proposition that power is very dangerous and that it is extremely important not to let any one man or any one small group have too much power for too long a time.

After all what are the British and American Constitution except devices for limiting power, and all these new devices are extremely efficient instruments for the imposition of power by small groups over larger masses.

The entire idea behind a republic like the United States is that misplaced power has led to disasters in human history, and that no person or group should have that much power over people. But, as freedom becomes nothing more than sloganeering in America, Huxley knew losing it would ultimately lead to our modern day dystopia and the death of creativity.

WALLACE: Mr. Huxley, let me ask you this, quite seriously, is freedom necessary?

HUXLEY: Yes, I should say it is. I mean, a genuinely productive society. I mean you could produce plenty of goods without much freedom, but I think the whole sort of creative life of man is ultimately impossible without a considerable measure of individual freedom, of initiative, creation, all these things which we value, and I think value properly, are impossible without a large measure of freedom.

What decisions do we have this late in the game?

What decisions do we have this late in the game?

What Can Be Done

What makes this interview all the more remarkable is it was filmed in 1958, but it sounds as though it could have been filmed yesterday. There have been 60 years of warnings about the world we are now in, but the masses have not listened. The cancer of the march of socialism through the institutions of the West is already at an advanced stage, as is the consolidation of financial power into the hands of 10 corporations that control nearly everything we buy and 6 media corporations that control nearly everything we get to see, read, and hear.

This may leave one with a sense of despair. However, in the past the world seemingly marched steadily towards one ideal before revolution tore down the old ideas and made way for new ones.

Will we escape? Or will we fall continue to fall prey to a devious masterpiece of social engineering and social control devised by a sociopathic corporate and government elite who are interested in maintaining their superiority?

At the very least, we can assume a posture of civil disobedience, as journalist John Stossel has suggested. The truth is out there, thanks to the Internet and free speech, while we have mostly uncontrolled use of them.

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220 thoughts on “How Brave New World Author Aldous Huxley Foresaw Modern America In 1958”

  1. Good article. One error: Freud was Edward Bernays uncle, not his cousin.

  2. Tremendous write-up. I taught BNW to 12th graders 6 years ago in a coastal CA town. During that same year I had to “smuggle” Shakespeare’s King Lear into my class. Unfortunately, as the political agenda has been fully implemented, BNW now needs to be “smuggled” into class. The multi-cultural pushers cannot see the importance of these books.
    Has anyone read Chrome Yellow? I get the feeling that novel was too direct for its own time.

    1. You seem like a smart fella , what about that quote from Aristotle on how mans natural state is of being a slave or something like . Can you or anyone on here elaborate ?

      1. Scarto,
        Aristotle’s idea of slavery, which Hegel also used, is of a metaphysical order and not relating to chatel slavery or anything of that sort.

  3. This is the most sane explanation of the current state of affairs I’ve seen at RoK. I’ve been saying this all along: there is no coordinated conspiracy with the Jews or whatever, but self interested parties inadvertently working toward the same goal.
    There is no conspiracy, what we have is far worse. Society can destroy itself even without a coordinated effort between Jews, banks, the media and the oil industry.
    Sometimes the great ship of state sinks because the boatswain, coxswain and Sailing Master were neglecting their duties while the captain was asleep. They weren’t working together, or even trying to destroy the ship. But their neglect and inability to overcome themselves sank the ship faster than if the French were trying to blow it up.

    1. Emergent behavior: like schooling fish or flocking birds. There is no central leader or authority. The coherent behavior emerges from low-level rules governing the interaction of the discrete agents.

      1. I’m sure emergent behaviour / self-organisation / the mimetic spread of ideas etc accounts for much that too often is put down to conspiracy theory. But people do sit down and plan together, and sometimes its not out in the open or very democratic. Both are in play

    2. The Jews have a knack for taking other people’s ideas and repurposing them for their own ends. They didn’t invent feminism or the idea of sexual freedom, for example; white women and men did that going back to the Enlightenment. The Jews just co-opted these intellectual trends to develop ideologies which damaged their host societies.

        1. If that’s true I can forgive some of their other transgressions.
          At least one good thing done by them, kek.
          But unfortunately for them, we control the power of Kratom now, and there is nothing they can do to stop us .

        2. Wassermann reaction (WR) was invented by Jews too.
          As well as bacteriology itself.

      1. Yeah, like that Cultural Iceberg guy from the last article.

    3. This might be one of the most sensible comments I’ve seen on this subject.

      1. This is probably the most astute observation on a sensible comment about one of the most sane explanation I’ve ever read.

        1. Why thank you good sir. This is one of the most flattering compliments I’ve received on an astute observation I’ve made on a sensible comment from someone on a sane explanation of something I’ve hitherto known.

        2. And a very excellent observation on a civil exchange followed by astute observation and civil comments with the most pleasant comment chain my sprakling eyes have had the occasion of viewing.

        3. Oh I’m so very pleased that you enjoyed the very excellent observation on a civil exchange followed by astute observation and civil comments with the most pleasant comment chain your sparkling eyes have had the occasion of viewing.

        4. This is turning into a bit of circle jerk. Spontaneous and self-organising one obviously with no prior planning

        5. It’s the jews. Cultural Iceberg had this planned for years.

        6. pretty sure its a multi-culti circle jerk.
          Damn it all spunk is white

        7. all spunk is white? I see you do not take kratom. I don’t actually have spunk anymore. I just ejaculate lightning bolts.

        8. more like arrows from Hank the Ranger (10 points to anyone who gets that reference)

        9. But it’s turning into a very Pleasant Circle jerk, full of astute observation, acumen , purposeful exchange, bon mot, insightful contemplation, au courant, and benevolence from witty jolly Chaps.

        10. Thought it was just a different brand name for the same product. Thought it tasted funny

        11. I will be proved right when I speak and prevail when I cum Romans 3:4

        12. they’re all pleasant… if you can get past the intense homo-eroticism. Suddenly this is like Ancient Greece on a hot Athenian day

        13. I have. Since I started each ones of my farts sends a green cloud in the air which makes me smarter and stronger. But the lightning sperm thing is ridiculous.

        14. It’s decided, then. We all agree government and corporations are the problem. How do we replace them?

        15. I have renewed faith in Return of Kings that this is the top voted post for this article. I was somewhat concerned about the irrational conspiracy-theorizing regarding the current state of affairs.
          I would never allege that the damage isn’t being done. But no, I haven’t seen compelling enough evidence to believe that the Jews/Banks/Oil industry/whatever are getting into a smoke filled room together planning the destruction of America.
          The most important point is this: sometimes great nations like the U.S. or Great Britain can destroy themselves, *even when no one is consciously trying to destroy them*.
          That is what we should be on guard for: the subconscious destruction of a great nation by dishonest men. The greatest danger to a nation is not an external force or a group of co-conspirators, but the enemy within.

      2. Its starting to concern me that you think most things “just happen”…

    4. Sorry bro. You still need to call jews out.
      Sure, it’s not ONLY jews. But jews have done a lot of damage to the west, just like other leftists. In fact their influence is disproportionate, given their small size.
      This is not me “blaming a scapegoat”, it’s a fact that an exorbitant ammount of leftists are jews, despite jews being like 2% of society.
      Claiming it is ONLY the fault of one group is wrong. Claiming that that group particular group has A LOT of fault is true however.
      And denying this conclusion because you do not want to face the upleasant facts about jews that fly in the face of the mainstream narrative is either laziness or cuckservativism.

      1. >an exorbitant ammount of leftists are jews
        >jews being like 2% of society
        According to this, leftist are around 2% of society.

    5. “there is no coordinatedoubt conspiracy with the Jews or whatever”
      Yes it is!
      Something to read:
      – Jewish involvement in the promotion of ‘hate speech’ laws, multiculturalism, mass immigration, denationalization, subversion of traditional values, and related items.
      http://balder.org/imbri
      – Practical Idealism. The Racist and Supremacist Roots of the Ideology behind the European Union
      http://balder.org/couen
      – Relay of Life. What you always wanted to know about the ‘Brussels EU’, But no one dared to tell you
      http://www.relay-of-life.org/main.html
      – Repressive Tolerance, by Herbert Marcuse (1965)
      http://www.marcuse.org/herbert/pubs/60spubs/65repressivetolerance.htm
      – Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
      http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/nelson-hultberg-cultural-marxism-the-corruption-of-america/
      – What is Cultural Marxism?
      http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.ro/2013/01/what-is-cultural-marxism.html
      – Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine
      http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
      – Vladimir Putin’s Russia: Perfect Foil To The Anglo-American Axis And Their New World ‘Order’
      http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=8159
      – Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster: A Terrorist Attack By The Usual Suspects
      http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=36831
      – An Abridged History Of The United States Psychopathocracy
      http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=36474
      Something to watch:
      – The Secret Behind Communism

      – The Coverup of Zionist Organized Crime!

      – Stop the Genocide of European Mankind

      – Anti-semitic, its a trick we always use it
      (Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni)

    6. Conspiracy theories sometimes go overboard and are excessive, but when the self-interested groups which you mention get together in private, as they no doubt do in their corporate resorts and lobbying rooms, wouldn’t you say that is a conspiracy?
      I agree with what you’re saying to a large degree, but those at the top are committing more than just neglect. They are actively conspiring against the general public.

      1. “They are actively conspiring against the general public.”
        Most of them probably see it as actively conspiring ‘for’ (the benefit of) the general public

    7. “There is no conspiracy, what we have is far worse. Society can destroy itself even without a coordinated effort between Jews, banks, the media and the oil industry”
      I’m not that familiar with Huxley’s work, but it seem he, H.G.Wells, and George Orwell (amongst quite a lot of other famous British writers) were all fabian socialists who had been heavily immersed in idealistic ‘new world order’ type thinking. Orwell, & Huxley clearly wrote books that were highly dystopian in nature, but particularly in the latter case one might think this was a belated response to highly enthusiastic utopianism, not dissimilar to new world order thinking (lower case, because we’re not talking about grand conspiracies or illumninati). HG Wells apparently wrote two books one called ” The New World Order” and the other called “The Open Conspiracy” which, though I haven’t read them yet appear to be rather in favour of the kind of grand-scale social engineering projects we’ve witness over the last century or so, and of course later on Carroll Quigley would be referring to much of the same kind of thinking (and the stuff going on behind the scenes in the corridors of powers) which is now one of the best testimonies we have to actual conspiracies albeit ones whose orchestrators saw themselves as benevolent and beneficial for mankind. Thinking in terms of high level top down hidden hand conspiracism is a bad habit to get into but equally not everything is spontaneously self-organising. I think what most of these guys wanted was both to warn of what could (and probably would) go wrong, but also to bring as much as possible into the open so as to minimise the likelihood of things going wrong precisely because the central planning and increasing bureaucratisation (which here Huxley sees as necessitated by technological advance) could easily turn into a Stalin like totalitarianism

      1. You should check out Huxley’s other famous book “Island”, where he tries to draw out an actual utopian society and how it would work.

        1. I’m not entirely certain whether The Art of Noise’s song “Island” was inspired by Huxley’s novel, but it seems likely and you may enjoy this anyway …
          The Art of Noise — “Island”:

    8. Can you explain how there is no Zionist conspiracy when David Ben Gurion(founder and first prime minister of Israel) has been quoted for saying that Israel will be the head of a one world government in order to maintain “peace”, David Rockefeller admits in his autobiography that hes guilty as charged for collaborating with the building of a new world order, Al Goldstein(one of the biggest pornographers) celebrates the fact that porn was invented by jews in order to destroy the traditional moralities of western society, and Monsanto(originally one of the biggest slave trading families, who is jewish) is poisoning our food supply in order to dull our minds. Its kind of obvious who also owns television and hollywood, so im not going to get into that.
      I completely agree that people should take control of their own lives, but if we are going to win a war, we should be able to identify who the enemy is, rather than cower in fear because we have been conditioned by our enemy to think the truth is politically incorrect and should demonize anyone as a “nazi” or “bigot” for pointing it out.
      Everything happens for a reason, the worlds problem’s isn’t done by some phantom menace whos sole purpose is greed and power. Im not looking for a fight, i just want to know what youre opinion is based on.
      Before you or anyone labels me a nazi, im a Christian which goes against the nazis ideology which stems from Friedrich Nietzsche and the worship of European paganism.

      1. But what about the Gentile smut peddlers? Larry Flynt? Hugh Heffner? Is either a confirmed Jew?

        1. i cant say so myself, but there are a lot of gentile collaborators like the masonic societies. Those gentiles know who the real ruling powers are.

      2. Ben Gurion was actually a British puppet who actively tried to suppress the nationalist goals of the Jews in then Palestine.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunting_Season
        That article goes through a but of histrory that the socialists have successfully suppressed for years. Because they were traitors and foreign puppets, particularly lf the rothchild filth, they were very well funded while the actually patriots had to scrape together every penny they could find. And when they finally did manage to put together the funds to get actual weapons shipped in
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altalena_Affair
        The article is mostly socialist white washing. The actual story, by witnessesand survivors is that Begin fucked up by promising not to fire back. Once he did that, then socialist vermin blew the ship to pieces and shot at survivors swimming in the water.
        After the war had finally broken out and the socialist vermin realized their little party was going to end once the nationalists were finally making real headway, THEN they coopted the movement. They had the money, they had the presses, they had the best guns, and they also had a lot of simple minded morons that just wanted everything to be cozy and convenient.
        Yes, my country is infested with rothchilds and socialist vermin. They pull every trick in the book to subvert and destroy the place, the difference is that we dont just take it. Any advance they make, we fight them on it. I notice a lot of people here complain about how Israel has a wall, did you know how much fighting went on to get that wall put up? Recently a soldier shot a suicide terrorist in the head, instead of giving him a medal, he was locked up. The rules of engagement are considered to be insane, look up what the IDF roe is that the leftists managed to shove down the throats of the country.
        TL/DR: i am not your enemy

        1. Youre quoting wikipedia, a site founded by two jews, who have been known to distort history and religion fitting a zionist bias.
          Also, people complain about Israel’s wall because theyre the only nation who has the strictest immigration laws in the world(they make immigrants take dna tests for goodness sake), theyre allowed to have segregated communities and schools while the rest of the world is forced to have tower of babel level of multiculturalism, and the media turns a blind eye on their horrific genocide against the Palestinians. Jewish supremacists like George Soros are known for funding race baiting organisations like black or white supremacists, and for supporting the forced muslim invasion of europe.
          Not every jew is my enemy, but anyone who supports or turns a blind eye to the crimes of the Zionist banking empire is truly and enemy of mankind, because they are the ones who have the most power over the world.
          FYI: Im aware Ben Gurion is a brit, all the Zionists are just europeans and russians posing as jews to dominate the world. Revelations 2:9 “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan”.

        2. “Youre quoting wikipedia, a site founded by two jews …”
          “Revelations 2:9 …”
          There are rumors that New Testament was written by jews also.

        3. yeah, ancient Israelites who followed christ, not zionists. Before you give the bogus theory of zionists being behind the bible, explain why one of the recommendations of being a citizen in israel is to deny Christ as your saviour.

        4. wikipedia was used as a generally accepted starting point, my sources are based on books and articles, I used the wiki link to give an overview, not as proof. Like virtually everyone with common sense, I know better than to rely on wikipedia, but this is the first time I have heard the reason being because of the founders ethnicity. Given that one uses the primary and strongest proof in an argument, it is logical to assume that it is their ethnicity that is the main issue, and not wikipedias notorious inaccuracies.
          I could go on and dispute everything ekse youve written, but why bother? You clearly arent honest.

        5. The Copts took your attitude and helped their Muslim “Arab brothers” drive out the Jews from Egypt. Take a look at what they’ve been going through since they made Egypt “Jew free”.
          The Christians among the Arab colonists on the West Bank also took this attitude when they stabbed us in the back and helped promote the “Peace Process”. They got their Arab paradise, go see how the Muslims repaid them.
          Bat Yeor has been warning everyone for years that the European powers wanted to create an alliance with the Muslims. The entire migration issue is a result of that, see how that is turning out.
          You are just as delusional as they were. You have some kind of fanatic bug up your ass re:Jews and you think you will establish some accord with the Muslims to get rid of us.
          Well big boy, I think you are in for a bit of a surprise on how well that will turn out.

        6. Theodor Herzl(founding father of zionism) stated that Israel must be expanded from the brook of egypt to the euphrates. The Zionists today who are carrying this plan out are the same ones behind the muslim invasions in europe and america, europeans have been the biggest enemies to zionists ever since we spread Christian morals and values to america and were aware of the jewish Bolsheviks behind communism in order to kill the Russian Royal family and use communism to take over europe, FYI the Romanov family was killed because they wanted no part in the zionist controlled european union. Muslims are no friend of mine, my ancestors fought off Saracen invaders trying to dominate europe in the middle ages, they are a barbaric empire disguised as a religion.
          Also you keep ignoring my points, if the zionists have no power and are just a bunch of harmless little angels. Then why is Israel the only nation allowed to have any sovereignty? Why is it that Christians are statistically the most persecuted religon group in the world? Why does hollywood never make a movie about the tens of millions killed at the hands of communism instead of hitler and “muh six million”? Why does the jewish controlled television never make fun of the fact that the talmud labels gentiles as “filth”, but instead would rather rag on christians for hating sexual degeneracy? Why doesnt anyone talk about the Sampson option?
          Good job though man, youll earn a bigger paycheque from the JIDF for spreading pseudo history about a fabricated conspiracy between european christians and muslims to rid the world of jews so islam can take over, lmao pls go.

        7. I glanced at your diatribe and noticed the part where you say I ignore your points.
          Correct.
          I am ignoring your points because you are not honest, I demonstrated that two replies ago when I noted you cared more about the wiki founders ethnicity than about the common sense reality that wiki is notorious for inaccuracy and bias. That is not honest because in the first comment you made that I replied to you, you pretended not to be a Jew hating antisemite. Had you been open about that from the first, maybe I would have written to you, maybe not, but I would have taken you seriously.
          So. Nice try in wasting my time in looking over more of your bullshit, but no thanks.

        8. Just pointed out that wiki is a bad source of info since it has a bias, i mean its the same site that published “gamergate is a group devoted to harassing women”.
          Also saying im an antisemite is the most retarded thing, because Arabs also count as semites and i never said anything negative about them. I get that you were implying that i hate all fake jews like yourself, but in fact i don’t, even jesus told god to have mercy on the same jews who killed him. There are wonderful jews who go against the zionist agenda like Nathaniel Kapner, Henry Makow, Stanley Kubrick, and Peter Schiff. You might as well say i hate all african americans just because i acknowledge the statistic about most gun murders being committed by african american gang bangers in the US.
          Youre the intellectually dishonest one for refusing to debate me because youre feelings are hurt. Your tactic of calling me an antisemite mirrors the tactic of a feminist crying misogyny when someone rips apart the wage gap myth.

        9. Im really willing to let this go. But you keep on pulling my integrity into question, and so I have to respond.
          this is what you said a few days ago
          your quoting wikipedia, a site founded by two jews, who have been known to distort history and religion fitting a zionist bias.
          And this is what you are saying now
          Just pointed out that wiki is a bad source of info since it has a bias, i mean its the same site that published “gamergate is a group devoted to harassing women”.
          Those are not the same statements. The first one is clearly making the case that because of the ethnic background of the two founders (wales identifies as atheist btw), any information on the site related to topics that involve their ethnicity can no longer be trusted. “Who have been known” also implies that it is not just these two particukar clowns that “distort history” but anyone sharing their ethnic background.
          The second statement is backtracking furiously, now its about the general bias and inconsistancy which everyone already knows affects nearly everything on wikipedia.
          Look, I can go on, but this is pointless. You are not honest, it is that simple. Its one thing to view an ethnic/religious group in a certain light, its something else when you repeatedly write without integrity. Unless I am willing to either commit every single thing youve written to memory, or Im willing to go throuh all your writings every time you say something that sounds off, you will say whatever you like without any concern at all for consistency. And thats not even to get into logical fallacies which youll use because you are less interested in the truth and more interested in an axe you have to grind. Im just not interested in parsing through your arguments to make sure you arent pulling some new rhetorical stunt. I have better things to do with my life.

      3. Do you know why Native Americans were blaming all their misfortunes on the forces of nature?
        Because they didn’t know about Jews.

        1. Its one thing if you dont know the enemy, but when you are aware and ignorantly choose not to believe, then thats irresponsible.

        2. Socialism of Fools rears its ignorant head again. People blame Jews because they are too lazy to study Pareto and Parsons.

      4. Though I am an Arab – honestly “its the jews” is what every dictator lies to us to get power. Now jews are just trying to survive, and latch onto other elites. The elites they latch onto give a false promise of not attacking minorities as much – just like why some Christians support marxist Bashar Assad whose economy crumbled. Marxism isn’t sustainable, it is inevitable that all systems built with it will fall from feminism to Assad. Notice how all progressive elites’ #1 claim is they protect minorities.
        So Trump trolled progressives by saying he’ll build a wall on Mexico and ban Muslims. Obama and Assad have the same rheutoric about minorities, same smug elite condescending style. Jews are just like some Assyrian Christians. Other Greek orthodox Christians joined Muslims to fight the establishment. Whoever in the establishment says they are nice to minorities – you’ll see them surrounded by jews and other minorities. Then the left race baits. When it gets corrupt and falls all the minorities that thought it would protect them are in danger.
        So its not a conspiracy that Western Jews as much as they jumped on the existing progressive ship in hopes of being less discriminated against. The problem is that the ship is sailing to hell, and many smart Israelis jumped off that ship.

        1. theyre not actual jews, they are a group of elite families claiming to be gods chosen people in order to fool people into worshipping them, then they use their power to cause chaos worldwide in order to offer a bs solution like a one world government. They want to expand israel by using war to force millions of muslims out of their country and force them onto europe and america, where the cultures clash and the tension rises due to the zionist owned media promoting race baiting. Its not just the left, its also the zionist controlled right.
          They put in a man like Donald Trump in order to fool the people into thinking they have a say in important events. The orthodox christians in russia you mentioned are also controlled, they are just a pawn in series of world events yet to be played out so the Zionists can have their way.
          As soon as people realise by connecting with god that the world and our bodies are expendable and nothing more, then the zionists will have no power.

    9. I don’t think anyone has claimed there is a co-ordinated conspiracy, though there has been/is thing that does make it seem like it, could just be a group-evolutionary strategy for Jews, or just hatred on their part. Anyhow, what I do know is that Jews started mass immigration in basically every western country.

    10. The secular jews still think they are some sort of special separate untouchable group. Doesn’t help that they get benefits and invulnerability while the white Christian’s get the shaft in nearly every affair going on now. There is clearly an agenda against my people based off of the media’s bias.
      You’re right, the ship is sinking, and no goyim can plug up the holes in the hull faster than the peg-legged kosher stowaway keeps puncturing them out.

    11. Most failures of communication come from the limitations of the human condition. Removed of emotions and with the ability to read minds, humans could achieve far greater; the irony is that without these ‘limitations’, humans would not have survived to evolve in the first place, such things being cumbersome when trying to compete with other organisms for difficult to tap resources. The second law of thermodynamics has its boots upon the neck of all the cosmos.

    12. Everyone else must play the ball game with one hand tied behind their back, not to co operate with their team mates and the white team chastised if they score against their opponents or not love them enough.
      Jews on the other hand have the ref in their pocket playing hyper aggressively convinced they must completely destroy or submit any competitors. The only team where group cohesiveness to win is tolerated.
      Then when the Jew holds the trophy aloft he sneers at the defeated adversaries denouncing any dissenters that would dare speak up they’re just sore loser conspiracy theorists who need to take responsibility of themselves.

    13. That and thenlines between conspiracy and corruption can get very blurru

    14. I think rather its the cultural marxists that Russia indoctrinated in the 1960s managed to get their mentee Obama all the way to the white house.
      I don’t think banks are as involved, being more in the money business. However, some progressive capitalists like George Soros are involved.
      Here is a video on it

    15. The Jews, on the whole, are definetly an organised conspiracy. Many conspire and act in a subversive way but rationalise they are doing good in the world, tikum olam, but they are conspiring in a frighteningly and hatefully anti White manner by following their pro and migration anti white morality. Whites are disappearing and the Jews are pushing every ideology causing this.
      Likewise their attack on freedom of speech (1st amendment), their attempts to infringe on the right to bare arms (2nd amendment), their race mixing propaganda, their vilification of their opponents (Whites, Arabs) their subversion of western nations to support their own form of racism: Zionism. The double standards are obvious.
      Judaism is a parasitic religion in nature when one looks at its behaviour. It stupefies its host, attacks key areas such as the courts, media and government similar to nervous system parasites.

  4. Very good article, thank you. That book is going on my to-buy list immediately. Forgive my ignorance, I’m just a young man.

    1. Buy “Propaganda” by Edward Bernays and “Psychology of the masses” by Gustave le Bon first!
      Good to read “Trust Me, I’m Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator” by Ryan Holiday.
      – Edward Bernays, Father of Modern Propaganda

      – Gustave Le Bon: Crowd Psychology

  5. I always thought Huxley and Lawrence were much akin in their Nietzscean rhetoric: man’s literal and metaphorical removal from his own soil and the fruits of his physical labor is always underscored as Modern man’s most damning sin. I believe the term was “ecological longing”.

  6. The Huxley interview is both revealing and fascinating. When the manosphere first started I was bemused by the lack of awareness of our situation, but, not surprised. At that earlier stage most men were waking up to a nightmare so they were confused and inherent to all movements in the early stage we had to get our feet underneath us. At the same time I found Huxley’s interview above and it confirmed my own observations regarding the use of propaganda, namely television, to produce social engineering. As a community, I think we’ve come a long way in terms of our understanding of the real situation and that is encouraging.
    Clarey calls them “roundhouse kicking chick shows”, where an otherwise unremarkable female goes around beating on people (mostly men) that would probably kill her with a decently connected punch. Its utter fantasy, but, because this is on TV its taken as real, or real enough, and that leads to allowing females in combat. And that’s the danger here. TV, movies…its all fake, but, its so realistic that it tricks us and that creates power over us. joe biden once said “will and grace had done more for homosexual rights than anything else…”, and he’s absolutely right. Is “will and grace” an accurate portrayal of homosexuality? NO! Its an embellished and idealized one, designed to make the gay guys look harmless and charming – who could hate such a mockingbird? Now, go to any homosexual community and you’ll be immersed in sexual buffet inappropriate to anyone except deviants – very overt PDA, giant chocolate phallus adorning the wall of a quaint bakery etc. But thanks to tv and movies we have 1) celebration of a lifestyle that leads to STDs, numerous health problems (such as loss of bowel control) and 2) the placement of very under-qualified people (women) in roles they are not suited for (combat arms).
    Solution – yes 5 corporations control the media and therefore its centralized, which means they can all stay on script. However, the internet promises a highly individualized media experience, which will make it impossible for centralization and to create a “script”.

    1. Most important, unlike today’s public voices and professors, there is neither fantacism nor ideology present in his countenance. Like Joseph Campbell, he is a healthy speaker. He truly lives what is espoused by The Bhagavad Gita and Christianity.

    2. There’s a reason that the pacific trade deal (and every one henceforth) included key aspects of Internet control. It’s already pretty much in the stitch now but is used as a tool for monitoring and promoting fear and insecurity.

    3. Brilliant analysis. One thing that surprises me about America after having observed first hand how brainwashed the population is and how meek and pacified the men have become, is that somehow they can continue to produce groundbreaking inventions and remain as world leaders in key industries.
      I guess in some isolated communities (Silicon Valley, Palo Alto, etc.), there still exists some kind of freedom, unadulterated by government oppression and feminist influence, so that creative minds can still get to work and flourish. Given how vulnerable a man’s financial situation and personal freedom has become in the modern U.S.; however, I’m still puzzled why most of these genius inventors don’t elect to expatriate overseas to more liberal lands as soon as they get the opportunity, taking their billion dollar enterprises along with them; then you would really see the long awaited total economical collapse in the U.S. (following the already widespread cultural downfall), and a traditionally masculine leader like Donald Trump would have a much better shot at restoring masculine ideals and personal liberties…

  7. I’m surprised we compare our current state to Orwell’s 1984 so much and not more to Huxley’s brave new world. I think in a lot of ways it does a more realistic job of showing what happens to a nation when the people of the nation stop caring about government and what is happening behind the scenes.
    That being said calling someone’s ideas Huxlian doesn’t really have the same ring to it.

  8. Nice article! I think the ultimate outcome depends on whether the current system will be able to keep down and ultimately get rid of its opposition, and today it doesn’t seem that way which gives me hope.
    But as science and technology march on, some new tool may be found that either we dissenters will use to force change, or the powers that be will use to win the final battle and put an end to the wonderful journey of the human race.

  9. I have reached a few unsavory conclusions over my lifetime. And one of it is that I became the monster I was trying to fight.
    I fought for free speech and cultural libertrarianism and have realized that it does not work.
    These days I am against total free speech, and I believe in imprisoning leftists and using Pinochet methods to impose our will upon society. Why you ask ?
    I realized that the truth is the masses need leaders. People are followers and there is nothing wrong with that per se. Research has shown that most people, according to Briggs personality tests are emotive or followers, rather than opinionated, contrarian, independent or rational.
    This means people will follow.
    So here what the enemy does. He takes control of the media (4 out of 5 biggest news and entertainment corps in US belong to jews), he takes control of universities (with social justice studies), he buys politicians making sure grassroots politicians don’t have money to campaign.
    On top of that in the 21st century, Youtube, Twitter, Google, Reddit are natural monopolies, although controled by private corporations. If one is banned from there he is essentially closed in an echo chamber. Sure he can speak his mind in theory, but he is banned from all mediums of expression.
    And to put a cherry on the top, the enemy creates hate speech laws and defines hate speech towards his own needs. It’s ok to make fun of Christians, but don’t make fun of Muslims or Jews, it’s insensitive.
    We forgot why we had free speech in the first place. Western people created free speech because the free flow of information facilitated social growth. The enemies took advantage of it towards their own need.
    In the 60’s jews in the porn industry fought for their right to produce porn by claiming porn is free speech, a medium of self expression. Then they formed natural monopolies in the media and academy as well as anti-hate organizations like SPLC, ADL. And now they can lie without consequences and attack all who oppose them without restraint.
    The reason we had freedom of speech is because it advanced our interests. Now it is being used against us. This is why I don’t believe in “rights” or “equality”. Rights and equalities are being used by muslim rapists to shield themselves from prosecutions, so do the globalists.
    No matter how good rights and freedoms are in theory they can be used against you. Like we have now with globalists in the media.
    CONCLUSION : Orwell was right. But he was wrong in one regard. People NEED dictators. Democracy, freedom of speech is not a solution, and is just a temporary state until one side takes control of cultural institutions, like Gramsci said.
    Humans are to lazy to be always vigilant. And that is what you need to have a demoracy. Even the founding fathers of America knew you need an advanced stock of people who are always vigilinat and fight tyranny with guns and a careful to make sure not a small transgression against people is allowed. But humans are not like that. Most are lazy, and that’s fine. We just need to take that into account when creating political regimes. That’s why monarchy or fascism is better than universal democracy.
    Authoritarian leadership is the only option. The only question is by whom ? By us or the enemy. Needless to say I would rather have it be us.
    I want rights and freedoms, but only for our side. Because if I fight for everyone’s rights and freedoms the enemy will take advantage and only promote his interest and up overwhelming us, as we see with muslims, leftists and jews. Those who are not partial towards themselves, will lose to those that are.
    Classic liberal fags like Cuckold of Akkad can fuck off. I fight for the rights of straight white males, not “everyone’s” rights. Definitely not for rights of leftists or muslims. They don’t care about me, and I won’t care about them. Principles can go fuck themselves. The only principle that rules the universe is serve your own side first, because no else will do it for you.
    In other words, we need another Pinochet.

    1. I disagree with your conclusion, but it is true that freedom of speech is actually a rather novel invention. In the way we know it, it did not exist before the 20th century.

    2. Exactly. In school, they always extolled the virtues of a “free press.” They never considered that the press may have its own agenda and use its considerable power to influence or control government.
      Either the state controls the media or the media controls the state.
      The notion of a free and impartial press sounds nice but in reality there is always an agenda. It is only a matter of which agenda gets pushed.

      1. And WHO pushes it.
        Us or Them ?
        Aristotle said : “those who do not wish to rule over others will pay the price of being ruled by someone else”
        Summarizes it greatly. Don’t expect fair play from the enemy, in our case leftists. Destroy them or get destroyed. They crertainly don’t care about our rights. That’s why I laugh when Sargon tries to virtue signal and fights for the rights of a leftist who was being judged for hate crimes against white men. To prove how moral he was, he donated money to have that women bailed. And so did his followers. Did anyone care, did the women appreciate it ? NO, she laughed and continued being a misandric POS.
        Meanwhile, Daily Stromer, a nazi website does abuse campaign against leftists on Twitter and by doing prank calls, mails. They managed to get a pedophilia promoter fired from Nintendo.
        Sargon plays right because he doesn’t want to be called an SJW or Nazi. He fights to defend the rights of his enemies. The enemy laughs at him, and continues to gain ground. His corectness does not attract 3rd parties, which are too sedated to care, or if they care will not lift a finger anyways, because they are also afraid of being “incorrect”.
        Now Sargon has the moral high ground but he doesn’t accomplish shit. Meanwhile Andrew Anglin and Weev of Daily Stormer are nazis but they make people run off Twitter and get pedophilia apologists fired from Nintendo.
        Do you want to be right an good or win ?
        If you want to be “right” and “good” while Europe dies, straight white males get sent to re-education camps, and women get raped under sharia law join Akkad and fight for “everyone’s rights”. But hey, at least you will have the moral high ground.
        But if you want to win, destroy your enemy ASAP, use every trick, be a hypocrite, deny them any right, walk all over them. Use every loop hole, double standard to destroy them and gain the higher ground.
        You will win, and then you will re-write history to make yourself look good in the process, because victors write history you know.

        1. Yes. One is either the hammer or the anvil.
          If we are ever successful at turning the direction of this country around, we can’t simply go back to the laissez faire indifference, disregarding the Left as it nurses its wounds and regroups and slowly gestates until it’s large enough to threaten our existence again.
          The only force to oppose the Strong Left is the Strong Right.

        2. ” The only force to oppose the Strong Left is the Strong Right ”
          Perfectly said my friend. That is what I try to explain to moderates.

        3. Agree with this sentiment. Every applied force will be counteracted by its opposite.
          Check out this article and you can see this phenomenon happening now in Sweden.
          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3571113/The-moment-one-brave-woman-stands-300-Nazis-refuses-let-pass-Activist-s-defiant-gesture-fascist-march-Sweden.html
          A chick defiantly tries to interrupt a right-wing legal protest and the media is describing it as “woman stands up to Nazis”.
          What these lefties don’t get is that these Swedish men are responding predictably to the possibility of their own extinction as promoted by their government… These guys didn’t just wake up one day and decide to shave their heads for no reason.
          What’s ironic is that these men are being labelled “Nazis”, but they have not responded violently, and are legally exercising their right to public assembly. Labelling them Nazis is basically the same as labelling ROK members as “rape advocates”, which is as extreme as it is untrue.
          Swedes are not understanding the simple reality that if the left continues to cuckold these men while ignoring their existence, they will have no choice but to respond violently. Their view of human nature is so flawed that they can’t understand why these men are taking risks to fight for their own country.

    3. I have to disagree with you when you say that freedom is not necessary. It is, but it can only be wielded by strong MEN with their feet on the ground who know their own interests. Modern society conditions men to be weak, so we naturally turn to these few monopolies to manage every aspect of our lives. If men were strong, these monopolies would simply disappear. In such an environment, a dictator is necessary. But if culture is strong, then men are individually strong, and no dictators are needed. Our goal, if we value freedom, must be to promote strength, which fortunately right-wing dictators seem to be good at promoting. Look at the nazi ‘fuhrer principle’ to see how that works.

      1. I see what you are saying.
        Basically in a strong homogenous society with a predominance of high quality of individuals freedoms, rights and some degree of democracy works.
        When the quality of people goes down due to prosperity society colapses and dictators emerge. Makes sense.

    4. My father was a navy man during the early Cold War. He always thought a benevolent dictatorship was the most suitable form of government. I suppose that’s a fair description of the Service, at least the Service of the Cold War period.

    5. I think its 5/5 biggest news and entertainment corps. Murdoch is crypto Jew. His journalist father married a Jewish woman from a wealthy Jewish family with connections in England and Australia that kick started his empire.

  10. Fantastic article. Well done, author.

  11. The real question here is what does this have to do with Forney’s take on the news about Trump?

    1. Really, I think I speak for us all when I say that we all are on tenterhooks awaiting another Trump article.
      Assuming that tenterhooks are real things and not a prank word given to me in high school to make me look foolish for the rest of my life. I have the same concern about the word “cockles” too but that’s another post entirely.

    2. I was asking the same thing. With that man crush Forney has on Trump, or wonder if he keeps a Lisa Frank notebook with “I heart Trump” written all over it.

      1. Shiiiieeet with all the anti-Trump hysteria, one would have to commit his feelings to an Anne Frank notebook … all secret and locked away and shit

      2. lisa frank notebook….nice detail. well done.

        1. Those, scrunchies, those Blossom hats I used to refer to as flowerpot hats.

      3. No, but he does have cut-out magazine pictures of him all over his dream board.

    3. As soon as I learned that Trump had won Indiana and Cruz had dropped out, I knew that Forney and all his fellow alt-righters were having a “YUUUGE” collective orgasm.

        1. Maybe we’ll be lucky and Forney and all the other alt-righters died of an overdose of Trumpgasming.

  12. When I was in the psychiatry, I was forced under threat of violenve to take SSRIs. I confronted the female doctor and said: Right. All my problems are just caused because my brain functions weirdly. And the perfect foolproof solution is to take pills.
    She looked into my eyes dead serious and said: Yes.

    1. Do you get to see things like this in the “funny farm” ?

        1. seeing as in…going out with, hallucinating, conjuring, evoking, invoking?
          All of the above?

    2. That’s because the pharmaceutical sales rep wines and dines her to help push their drugs to the doctor’s patients. She doesn’t get a commission per se, but the perks are there.

      1. There was a woman there who was a pedagogue and was basically there to help people with things related to finances, government, education, and planning a life after the nuthouse. She proposed to me the idea that I could study something new. I asked what I would need to study in order to build a nuclear bomb. I sincerely find nuclear bombs fascinating, but I thought the joke was obvious. Then we had those weekly talks with the doctors which lasted about 2-5 minutes and that was pretty much the only conversation you ever had about your problems. So I was in there talking about getting out and they suddenly sternly look at me and say “Tom, we heard you want to build a nuclear bomb. We are worried about you.”
        Seriously, these people are nuts.

        1. Yeah, kinda fitting. The bad thing is it makes you want to stand up and punch them, but that will only get you into a shitload of trouble.

        2. They most certainly are. I think particularly in the early stages they’re going to be obsessed about risk issues. In fairness, even if they did realise it was just a joke, they have to take it seriously whenever you say anything that could indicate some dodgy intentions (like building a nuclear bomb!) or doing something that could get you or someone else into trouble, for the simple reason if they don’t they could get into trouble down the line. That’s a slightly sad aspect of the way things happen these days. It’s a shame you got so little time to actually speak to anyone (or not as the case may be). Unfortunately mental health can be a bit of a conveyor belt. The good side to that is that you’re out now, and can try to sort things out yourself. You’re probably best placed to do that

  13. Brave New World must have sounded really weird and contrived to its first readers when Huxley published it in 1931. But Huxley’s vision of the underlying logic of modernity has gotten more plausible with time, not less.
    For example, the vacuous Future Slut character Lenina Crowne has jumped out of that novel’s pages and into our real lives. Just give her a smart phone to wear on her fashionable Malthusian belt, some tattoos, perhaps an unnaturally colored hair dye, and a British version of girls’ uptalk and vocal fry, and she would fit right in as an early 21st Century slag.

    1. The character “Lenina Huxley” in the movie “Demolition Man” was modelled after Lenina Crowne from “Brave New World” …
      In that future, she apparently sings happyhappy songs about Armour hot dogs with absolutely no clue about the entendre, double or otherwise, that’s involved. 🙂

        1. That possibility would be in keeping with the current masscult programme …

  14. Totally dig the medical pharmaceutical complex part.
    Men over 40, you want to keep your woman sexually satisfied so she doesn’t fuck the hit pizza delivery boy? Drink that blue pill known as Viagra!
    Women over 40, want to look young so your husband doesn’t bang your kid’s teen babysitter? Inject gallons of Botox!

    1. Reminds of that line from the movie the Internship: “Get yourself some of those blue bombers: they’ll get you all monstered up.” lolz

    2. Love me a withered old hag who looks like her face was stung by a swarm of Japanese hornets.

      1. So I had a meeting with a woman selling advertising last year. She was older. IN great shape for 50 but def in the DNB category based on age.
        Anyway, she starts telling me about yoga class. Pro Tip: If a woman tells you about her yoga classes within the first hour of meeting her she wants your dick. No if’s ands or buts about it.
        So I am scheduling another meeting and she says, not even kidding, “I will be out for 3 weeks because I am having a vagioplasty”
        You know, I almost wanted to give it a shot just to see.

        1. What the hell is that? Is that like rebuilding an old Dodge Challenger?

        2. She was 50 years old but she was an immaculately-preserved 50 year old!

        3. She calls every few months and takes me out to lunch at some steakhouse or another. The option is always there. At one point she told me she makes and sells custom jewelry and is having a show at her apartment.
          I just don’t think I can do it though.

        4. What does she take you for? A feather wearing Indian? Trying to bribe you with colored beads? Shieet

        5. She invites you for steak? Now THAT’S the kind of gender equality I would get behind. That, and her refurbished booty.

        6. perk of my job, people take me out to very nice lunches and dinners.

        7. Nah, that’s just business. I am not used to it being women, but she is selling very pricy advertising. It’s even better when I get invites from Metro or the NYT Magazine to go to parties during fashion week when they are packed with models and champagne

        8. I don’t get vagioplasty. I don’t know any dude who is getting ready to put it in and is like, “wow, now that I see those meat curtains, I’m calling this off.” That goes quadruple for somebody getting ready to get with a 50 year old woman.

        9. She’ll be shooting ping pong balls out of that snatch like a machine gun: pa-pow pa-pow pa-pow!

        10. it’s like facial reconstruction surgery: the pounded hamburger has got to be put back together again

        11. yeah, once you are at that point I guess you are going in no matter what. One possible reason is time. I mean, if you are 50 and have had your guts beat out since you were 15 there is a fair chance that even if you can get someone to stick their cock in your wizard sleeve a) you won’t feel it and b) if you do feel it he will be pumping away blasting cobwebs like Howard Carter in King Tut’s tomb for hours on end before finally squeezing out an ounce of much needed benefiber. (ps I am so fucking proud of this response.)

        12. I actually saw this…yeah, it’s pretty great. Not as good as when the cunt waxing spot near me had a 20% off sale for junior prom. I was hard for a month.

        13. All the kings horses and all the kings men….fucked the shit out of her…

        14. Wizard’s sleeve … give this guy the Nobel Prize for Literature already

        15. yeah, and I managed not to use, used bubble-yum, looks like she was sitting naked in hot gravel, axe wound, used the Witch King of Angmar’s morning star as a dildo, lady foot locker, everlast punching bag, fidel castro eating a raw steak or in and out burger

        16. I mean it perfectly captures the appearance of a loose-fitting billowy wizard’s cloak …. fucking poetry

        17. You are like a Madlibs for octogenarian snatch. Also, it’s hairy hatchet wound, not axe wound…

        18. I like the, erm, bluntness of “axe wound”

        19. That’s why cigarettes and booze and necessary for night game. No way you are hitting some sweaty club skank without dampened senses and singed olfactory nerves.

        20. Like that line in Clerks 2: “And I wouldn’t fuck her with the Torch of Gondor”

        21. that is a good line, but if you really visualize the Witch King of Angmar’s spikey Morningstar smashing directly into a vadge and the resulting destruction, I feel there is a very clear image painted.

        22. Although first crack at a brand new pussy could be fun. I guess that’s what makes me curious.

        23. That is what I thought! I mean, I seriously considered it. But decided against.

  15. I started reading Brave New World and I found the first few chapter’s description of the world’s new way of life and extreme social programming to be fascinating. As it got to the main characters and their happy but banal existence, however, it became intolerably boring to me, and I quit about halfway through. I suppose I’ll have to finish it one of these days.

    1. The banality was intentional such that when the protagonist is introduced you *really* see his point of view.

      1. Jury is out for me. I am not a big proponent of banal, but BNW really doesn’t seem that dystopic to my nihilistic leanings.

        1. Reminds me of a fictitious bumper sticker I once saw: “There’s nothing banal about anal”

        2. It did to a vibrant, alive, free society of people who valued rugged individualism and who saw nothing but a bright future ahead. To them it was shocking. That we’re “used to it now” is a measure of how far we’ve fallen.

        3. yup…we are done.
          On a side note, at first I read your sentence as “I did it to a vibrant, alive, free society of people who valued rugged individualism and who saw nothing but a bright future ahead” and thought, he did banal to an entire vibrant, alive, free society of people who valued rugged individualism and saw nothing but a bright future ahead? That is fucked up even by my standards.

      2. I realize it was intentional in order to better express the vague feeling of dissatisfaction that nagged at him, but I just was so bored…I’ll have to take it out from my library and stick with it this time, especially since it’s not a long book.

  16. Novels have a way of assuming roles their authors never intended for them to have. For example, generations of teenage boys read Brave New World as advocacy for sexual freedom, not as a warning against it. I certainly took it that way when I first read it in high school.
    Now that I have more life experience, and some acquaintance with the intellectual history of the early 20th Century that Huxley wrote this novel as a response to, I can see it quite differently. Huxley shows an astonishing level of insight into where Western civilization would go, and especially into how women would behave once they had access to effective contraception and jobs which made them economically independent of men. Lenina’s promiscuous way of life had damaged her so badly that she and John the Savage simply couldn’t understand each other, though the dissatisfied men in the advanced society like Bernard Marx and Helmholtz Watson had enough Red Pill in them to bridge the gap between their way of thinking and John’s.
    In other words, Huxley anticipated that in a degenerate hedonist utopia, women in general would lack the spiritual resources for reform, but some of the men would have managed to preserve their integrity despite all the temptations for degeneracy. That sounds familiar some how.

    1. Plato’s “Ion” and as currently as Barthes’ “Death of the Author” succinctly explain narrative and their interpretors misconstrue, rewrite, and improperly tell stories.

  17. There might be a Kratom article today, that’s how Pavlovian this ROK shit is getting! Illuminati Roosh confirmed!

        1. apparently it inhibits the re-uptake of serotonin and makes you feel generally fab …just like kratom

  18. Stay away from anti-depressants even if you have good cause to use them. I had a friend who had three horrible things happen to him at over a span of like three weeks (death of a parent, suicide of a friend, and laid off of a job) which sent him into depression. He started taking an SSRI and it seemed to help him for awhile. But then the SSRI wasn’t enough so he started on another drug. Then another. He never confronted the core issues causing his depression so he became dependent on these drugs. I don’t know if it was tolerance building up much like alcohol can do, but the drugs started losing their efficacy. Doses went up and new drugs were introduced. A year later I think he was popping six pills a day. He became a shell of the man he used to be and never got out of that hole. We didn’t exactly have a falling out, but more of a fading away. Last thing I heard was that he had to move back in with his one living parent and hasn’t held down a job on a consistent basis.

    1. If you aren’t depressed at the state of the modern world, there is something wrong with you. Depression is your body’s way of letting you know something isn’t right.

      1. I’ve gone past depression. I am just apathetic and horny. Does that mean there is something wrong with me?

        1. I was depressed at a point when I was like 19 and flipped between periods of basically wanting to die, and periods of not giving a shit about anything but pussy. Maybe you are just stuck?

        2. Not stuck. I am fully committed to my nihilism.

        3. One of my moms favorite “insults” to me is nihilist. I’m committed too.

        4. I’m just numb with the realization that I’m the only normal one.
          No, there is nothing wrong with you.

        5. The question was rhetorical. Of course there is nothing wrong with me!

    2. I started down that road. Just suddenly stopped the med. Almost needed to be tied to a tree for 3 weeks while the poison left my body and my serotonin levels returned to normal. What a ride!!!

      1. That is what I understand most go through. You can taper off but still it takes 2-3 weeks for your neurochemistry to adjust. Personally I would never touch the stuff. I get why people do, but I think most are better of by not touching it.

        1. Yes. Following Doctor’s instructions. After a couple of months I said to myself, “am I going to do this for the rest of my life?”. The MD upped the dose and in came the bad side effects. I bailed.

        2. Unless you cannot literally get out of bed, do not take any anti-depressant. It is not worth it.

  19. Brave New World, 1984 and Fahrenheit 451, the three books which predicted our dystopian present.

  20. “… self interested parties inadvertently working toward the same goal.” Hah! I guarantee you there are forces goading it along.

  21. It’s been a while since I read that book. But wasn’t Mustapha Mond (and John) the most unhappy ones as they were not ignorant of their individual conditions? Were the Alpha – Epsilons (generally) content with their lives by design?

  22. I was 1 out of a class of 22 in college that would choose to live in ‘Brave New World’ and not ‘The Reservation’ when asked on the final exam, my professor informed me. Of course this was decades ago and perhaps I was willing to live in a world knowing I was being deceived vs. living in a world not knowing I was being deceived. Either way, I wonder if my classmates were just answering based on what they think a professor wants to hear.

  23. “What Can Be Done”? Nothing, I’m afraid.
    In previous overthrows of tyranny the civilian population was not at an extreme firepower disadvantage as compared to the military or police enforcers. Today is a totally different story. Your local jack booted thug police force is armed to the teeth with automatic weapons (that you can’t own) and armored personnel carriers.
    Our overlords don’t need the military to put down a rebellion, they have turned every local police force into American Gestapo staffed with low IQ sociopaths (research the requirements to be a cop and the personality types they accept for yourself). The American military is the only force capable of taking on the local police and them turning on the overlords isn’t going to happen.
    Kick back and enjoy the show. Its the only answer.

    1. I agree with you on many levels, however, Americans hate “laws” of all sorts: religious, legal, et cetera… We give the idiots good reason to stomp our asses.

    2. You still can own an automatic weapon you just need a FFL.
      Also you assume the Government is competent and civilian populations can’t turn on Government forces as history proves is always possible.
      Just look at how long the Afghans handled the Soviets and US military

  24. Excuse me Forisio You forgot a lot let us start with Religeon dumbed down to promote the corrupt views of the elite rather than moral code, the total lack of a family unit and worst factor of all state encouraged sexual promiscuity with drugs and contraceptives given out as candy with everyone being everybody else’s sexual property and any man and woman forming a serious relationship getting stigmatized, as an avid reader of Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World I must tell everybody it is shocking how much of what was created between the pages is I am sorry to say Today’s Horrible Reality.
    Brave New World is our world today.

  25. “What makes this interview all the more remarkable is it was filmed in 1958, but it sounds as though it could have been filmed yesterday. There have been 60 years of warnings about the world we are now in”
    Also what is interesting if one looks back in history, just how open the elites were with their intentions. How can they do this? Simple: complacency
    For example if one looks at Agenda 21 which is all about humankind minimizing its impact on the planet. Ok good and fine, but one of their objectives is to reduce wptld population down from 7 billion to 500 million; yet people do not even flinch when they hear this. Complacency of the general population is key for the elites to get away with shit.

  26. “Will we escape? Or will we fall continue to fall prey to a devious masterpiece of social engineering and social control devised by a sociopathic corporate and government elite who are interested in maintaining their superiority”
    I’m not too optimistic when one considers that the reins of the country will one day be turned over to Generation Butt Plug i.e. the millenials.

      1. “Millennial here, and unfortunately you are absolutely right”.
        Sometimes i run into a millenial who is red pill and has a good head on his shoulders, such as yourself. We need much more of your kind.

  27. There are viable options to obliterate the tyranny. Many are quite effective and I won’t get into details here. The fact is the options often will be a tough pill to swallow. It would require a level of sacrifice and the hard part is selling this to people.

  28. This article smacks of the “What have the Romans ever done for us . . . ?”

  29. Alexis de tocqueville predicted all this in 18 his book “democracy in America” in 1840.
    Volume II, book IV chapter VI:
    What Sort Of Despotism Democratic Nations Have To Fear
    He wrote that a new form of government would arise. It would destroy all competing institutions and fold them into the functions of the state. He foresaw that the population would become atomised, hedonistic and childish.
    “I seek to trace the novel features under which despotism may appear in the
    world. The first thing that strikes the observation is an innumerable
    multitude of men all equal and alike, incessantly endeavoring to procure
    the petty and paltry pleasures with which they glut their lives. Each of
    them, living apart, is as a stranger to the fate of all the rest—his
    children and his private friends constitute to him the whole of mankind;
    as for the rest of his fellow-citizens, he is close to them, but he sees
    them not—he touches them, but he feels them not; he exists but in
    himself and for himself alone; and if his kindred still remain to him, he
    may be said at any rate to have lost his country.”
    He compared the new state to a parent who does not prepare her children for adulthood, but instead keeps them in a state of childhood forever. The new state would not tyranise, but simply regulate. It would cover society in a vast and minute web of regulations above which no one could rise. As he wrote:
    “it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates,
    extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to be
    nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the
    government is the shepherd”
    “Every man allows himself to be put in leading-strings, because
    he sees that it is not a person or a class of persons, but the people at
    large that holds the end of his chain. By this system the people shake off
    their state of dependence just long enough to select their master, and
    then relapse into it again.”

  30. The best article on the subject. Also, link on “Managed Democracy” is very informative.

  31. I wondered when my namesake would show up. I admired Huxley for his clarity in seeing our doom no matter how much it cost him personal popularity. He was one of Britain’s greatest intellectuals, completely capable of removing the baggage of values and labels to properly reach truth through analyzing how people respond to incentives as they arise in a civilization.

  32. Read Huxley’s “Ape and Essence” for a novel of Ideas about this problem and potential solutions. Not as well known as Brave New World, but worth the effort to read ti.

  33. Take Huxley’s “Brave New World”, especially the soma, and then add bits of Orwell’s “1984”, Jack London’s “The Iron Heel”, and perhaps a bit of Yevgeny Zamyatin’s “We”, and you get the world of Karin Boye’s “Kallocain” …
    http://digital.library.wisc.edu/1711.dl/Literature.BoyeKallocn
    A pre-recorded summary from the Ministry of Wikipedia now follows:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallocain
    “Kallocain is a classic 1940 dystopian novel by Swedish novelist Karin Boye which envisions a future of drab terror. Seen through the eyes of idealistic scientist Leo Kall, Kallocain’s depiction of a totalitarian world state may draw on what Boye observed or sensed about the Soviet Union, which she visited in 1928. An important aspect of the novel is the relationships and connections between the various characters, such as the marriage of the main character and his wife Linda Kall, and the feelings of jealousy and suspicion that may arise in a society with heavy surveillance and legal uncertainty.
    One of its central ideas coincides with contemporary rumors of truth drugs that ensured the subordination of every citizen to the state. Both Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World (1932) and Boye’s Kallocain are drug dystopias, or societies in which pharmacology is used to suppress opposition to authority. However, unlike Brave New World, where a drug is used to suppress the urge to nonconformity generally, in Kallocain a drug is used to detect individual acts and thoughts of rebellion.”
    The Censor of the Universal State now wishes you all a pleasant good evening …

  34. There is one critical difference between BNW and the reality of today.
    In BNW it was a criminal offense to NOT put out rather than to coerce into putting out.
    Also all the people are genetically perfect (no fuglies to be found).
    I remember reading it back in high school and thinking “This is supposed to be a DIS topia!?!?”

    1. BNW people were decanted, not born, so it’s no plot stretch to presume they were genetically designed to have a low level of sexual hunger for each other that would be reciprocated and satiated so strong and unslaked desire could not pose a threat to the state.

  35. $98/hr for doing porn flicks ?? You jesting mister ?? Not less than $400/hr paid, to maybe consider it ??

  36. Dictatorship naturally arises out of Democracy. And extreme slavery and depostism out of extreme liberation.
    -Plato (the republics).

  37. This is interesting, considering that Huxley and his family were part of the very same elite that he was warning about.

    1. WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING: How the public was duped into socialism, but got totalitarianism

  38. Don’t worry about teenagers, at least in my country and locality. Among the hundreds of idiots enrolled in these indoctrination camps they call ‘school’ there are plenty of sane ones as well. I, for one, consider myself fractionally more conscious of our current scenario than other people in my age group. Narcissism at its finest, I guess.

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