138 thoughts on “5 Ways Men Can Use Technology To Unmask Cheaters And False-Rape Accusers”

1. I use an audio recording app on my Nexus5X and two SJCAM M10 FullHD Actioncams to record my encounters.
   I use black tape to hide the bright LEDs on the SJCAMs and I used acrylic paint to make them all black and put them in a dark corner.

   1. What’s that? It sounds like the femail-man has got your new spy camera! 😀
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1b1k6FlIs

   2. Dang. I just leave my phone nearby with the audio recording, and run my webcam lightless (thanks, Russian hackers!) if I need additional security.

      1. A lightless cam can backfire if you’re the one being hacked.

      2. I want to know for how long filming will cound as evidence…

2. Every time I break up with a girlfriend, I record it. Just in case.
   PS: never delete your text conversations with women.

   1. Completely agree. Thankfully with technology nowadays, saving messages is real easy. Also men should embed this tidbit, any woman who will bad mouth a man to you that you have never met before, is one bad sexual encounter, one independent decision away, from sending you up shit’s creek too.

      1. Oh boy is this one of the biggest redpill revelations I discovered. I remember feeling so empathic for these sweet, sexy, pure and innocent chicks who would tell me stories of how they were mistreated by their exes.
         The last one was several years ago, I briefly dated a super hot Russian ~23 y.o. immigrant who just arrived to America. She had had 2-3 boyfriends back home in Russia, but none of them would even speak to her today. She sadly told me how they would not even respond to friendly messages or attempts to converse with them, and I thought how could these guys be so cold to such a sweet princess?
         Muhahahahha fast forward 6 weeks and I’m seeing things from their point of view. I went to NYC for a couple of weeks, and when I came back discovered she started cheating (or maybe already was, who knows?). I wouldn’t piss on the bitch if she was on fire, and sure wouldn’t acknowledge her presence. From then on, whenever I hear a story like this, I immediately take the side of the man, no matter how “bad” he sounds, and identify from their point of view. This hasn’t failed me yet, and has saved a lot of heartache.

         1. Welcome to the Red Pill. Many of us found ourselves here in a similar way.

   2. Since I got my newer phone, the text messages disappear after a few weeks anyway- anyone else have this problem?

      1. If you’re on an Android, go to your messages, there should be the three vertical dots to access settings. From there, under “Storage” uncheck delete old messages. There’s also an app called Super Backup that can back up all your messages (contacts, etc) on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. What I do is every time I put my photos onto my computer, drag the Super Backup files into their own folder incase my phone is damage.

         1. Im not, its an iphone, but thanks.

         2. Can always screenshot important parts (power+home button)

   3. There is a page that converts facebook conversations to pdf files so you can store them on your harddrive and cloud and never lose them even if you delete facebook or someone hacks your account.

   4. This ! All of it! ^^^

3. I guess the Columbos and Magnum PI’s of the world are going the way of the dodo?

   1. Ole Tom Magnum had it made lol

      1. He had the best internal monologue ever, didnt he?

         1. Live rent-free on a Hawaiian beachfront mansion with access to a Ferrari, run a side gig for extra cash, and have women throw themselves at you. Yeah, ‘ol TM had it made I’d say!

   2. You can still find PI’s, if you know where to look.
      There are about four levels of PI.
      1. Internet (legal) only – will use legal methods to acquire information
      2. Internet and live (legal) only – like 1, but also will do interpersonal interviews and legal tailing
      3. Questionable – usually like 2, but either will do grey-area recon or will hire someone to do so
      4. Crooks – information at any cost
      You mostly find 1 and 2 these days, if you’re looking in normal channels. If you know a guy who knows a guy, though, odds are you can find 3 or 4.

      1. So which one are you and what is your rate?

         1. I’d probably be a 1, if I did it. Locally, I might rise all the way to 2, but that’s almost pushing it.
            I dunno…$50 an hour, plus expenses. Online, it doesn’t take that long to find what legal information you can, and expenses should basically be whatever it costs to get access to background checks and the like.
            What you really want is someone in your area, who knows a bunch of people. They’re the kind of folks who can get informants, hire criminals (if the need should arise, and their morals are looser), and actually track targets.

4. Why do all bob smith articles look like they are written by a man who has been cucked?

   1. It could be that he’s a man who learned some important lessons he’s attempting to pass forward.

   2. Because he’s a bitter man who will die lonely and hates women.
      Hint, because it’s me: I am being sarcastic.

      1. I got caught cheating on a girlfriend once, and when she found out I tried to deflect by telling her I was screening the other woman for 3 some. She bought the idea and asked if we could shoot a vid.
         Remember when ROK was cool… back before the stormfront trolls brought their cuck vibe?

         1. When did you join ROK?

         2. Damn, I would hate lying. I’d probably rather just say the truth and shrug my shoulders. But maybe that’s too idealistic?
            I have only been here for 1.5 years or so, so no idea. 🙂

5. These are more things women would use to find out about your infidelity if they are even smart enough to set it up. Most women use other women as spies to gather intel for them.

6. I’ve got some thoughts, based on some things I’ve seen and read.
   You can get keyloggers (software that monitors keystrokes) for free. If you have access to the computer in question, it’s a simple matter to install and monitor. Of course, if you’re going to the trouble, you could also rig something up to show you her screen or camera on demand…
   You can track a car with a pre-paid cellphone, so long as it has a tracking application associated with it. Some recommend putting it in a black box and hiding it in the undercarriage of the car, but just casually dropping it in the trunk can work just as well. That way, even if you already track her phone, you have a line on where her car is (in case she “accidentally” leaves her phone at home). Single fault tolerance.
   “Wire sniffing” is another possible investigation approach. Using an application like WireShark, you read all the packets of information transmitted through the wireless network space. With a few simple tools, you can read all sorts of things (like, for example, that her Tinder is active for three hours each day).
   Disclaimer: outside of using WireShark in service of school work and business application, I’ve done none of these things. I ain’t no lawyer, so don’t take my advice as legal. Blah blah ass-covering blah.

7. And she’s probably doing the same to you.

   1. Beware of Trojans bearing gifts… and letting them touch your stuff.

8. Great idea when you aren’t allowed to use it as evidence.
   Besides … what a hassle.

   1. That’s assuming you go to court. Police make judgement calls in the field all the time.

      1. Really? Not my experience with the coppy copper. They like their ‘rules’ and ‘procedures’. But maybe that’s just Germany.

         1. I’ve heard horror stories about Germany. Germany seems to have gone from conservative totalitarianism to liberal totalitarianism.
            Me? I live in the boonies: my town isn’t even properly in the facebook location system.

         2. Well, I suppose I can open my hard manly heart up to the possibility that not ALL cops are bastards.

         3. Some of ’em are, but others are just following procedure. They don’t make the rules, they just enforce ’em. Very complicated.

         4. That’s what makes them bastards. ‘Just enforcing the rules’. Fuck that. Either a man takes responsibility for his choices or he cries that he had no choice.

         5. Were it a choice between starving or enforcing some dumb rules, eventually you’d choose to enforce some dumb rules. Unless you’re some hero.
            Then you’d be a dead hero.

         6. I suppose. A lion needs to eat too. Does not mean I am not pissed if he eats me.

         7. That would suck. And I ain’t lyin’…

         8. RIP Harambe

         9. Correct. They are pawns of the courts. The court decides if you are guilty or not.

         10. what is Harambe?

         11. Dicks out for Harambe!

         12. Not what. Who!

         13. What is Aleppo?

         14. German police are probably the most by the book in the world.

9. Their demise rests in their cell phone. Get a keylogger find a reason to get them to log into their google account, email usually, Have them phone shop from your computer. You now have access to their text messages, on phone pictures, pictures, emails, and you can track them by GPS. People tend to use the same passwords over and over so you might have their Facebook. Good god what more do you need. You might not like what you see. It was not my girl but I did not like what I saw. I did not use a keylogger but the stupid girl saved her passwords on a commuter

   1. Someone in the past had posted this so it is worthwhile repeating.
      She’s not yours. She’s just your turn.

      1. Woman can offer a committed relationship the same way a man offers sex. Getting a man to commit is something they take pride in. But woman don’t take relationships seriously the same way men do. they just want them more. This is about checking up on that girl you’re actually thinking of making a commitment to. Trust but verify

      2. Honestly if your just dating a girl. You do not need to do this. You have plates to spin. You are not offering loyalty why worry about it. You caring about loyalty before commitments are being made is just being insecure. She is more likely to be cheating if you seem worried about it. Other women being available to you will keep her in line better than anything else.
         And why care about it anyway? she is just temporary

10. Wow has western society degressed so much that all women in it are cheating sluts? I do believe men are guilty of the same thing as well. I agree with the stealth cameras to avoid false rape accusations but tracking “your special little snowflake” to see if she is cheating on you, outside of the contex of legal matters, seems to indicate a bit of an insecurity, which apparently is chick repellant and not very red pill. If one was red pill, according to the actual definition, you would dump the broad and find another if one is not married to that fore-mentioned broad.

    1. Of course you would. Most here find it disgusting or even laughable when a man will stay with an adulterous woman.
       I think Bob’s recommendation (for the car monitors and etc) was more of an investigatory tool for legitimate concerns, rather than a tool to monitor her constantly because you’re an insecure control freak.
       He even puts it in this context: “…or if you simply want to quickly find out where your perennially faithful female friend is actually going during her all-too-frequent “weekend getaways with her girlfriends”…”
       I agree with you, but its more just solid advice for a particular circumstance in this article. Especially if you’re deeply invested in a woman, you’re going to want solid evidence before you make any irreversible decisions about getting out of the relationship.

11. Normally I don’t do current events type posts but this will be trending in the coming week. You may enjoy some of the wild claims I am making in this provocative new essay :
    How Big Cereal Makes Big Bucks on the EBT Market
    http://wp.me/p6QFjS-bs

    1. Makes sense, Im part Irish, and we havent eaten Lucky Charms since the 1980s…they arent gonna eat themselves

       1. Speak fer yerself…

    2. I was never a huge Bill Hicks fan, maybe its a generational thing. But he made probably the best joke I’ve heard:
       “By the way, if anyone in here is in advertising or marketing… Kill yourself.”
       Thanks for the article Mr. Jones. Interesting and kind of depressing. I’m fairly pissed off now after reading it. But thanks.

    3. The half-breed child is ugly.

12. Not related, but a fun thought that came to my mind I feel worth sharing:
    They call you a sexist because you say that women are different than men.
    And then they call you a homophobe because you do not acknowledge that gays actually are different because they have gay genes.
    Leftist logic.

    1. I have definitely seen some gay jeans…

13. First off, this article doesn’t put enough emphasis on the legal ramifications of utilizing some of these devices.
    My best friend went to prison for two years for using a stealth camera to record intimate acts (he then posted the videos online, which was a big mistake, but that’s another matter of discussion as the charges that brought him down were linked directly to the use of the recording device).
    When it comes to voice recording, check your state’s wiretapping laws.
    I live in NY which, like many others, is a one-party consent state. That means as long as you’re taking part in the recorded conversation, its okay to record it. I utilize an automatic call recorder on my phone that logs and saves everything to a cloud account. I’ve used it for evidentiary purposes to my benefit before. Keep in mind that if you record a conversation with someone who is calling from outside of your locality, their laws may be different and may make your recording illegal in their area.

    1. But if you made the recording in your area, that was done out of the other place’s jurisdiction.

       1. Unequivocally false, friend.
          Hence my warning.
          Thats why businesses always inform you they are recording.

    2. As pointed out in the article (for those who missed it), you can read an overview of federal and state wiretapping/recording laws right here – http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations. To view the laws by state, look for the link in the third paragaph of the aforementioned web page. Also, as pointed out in the article, you can read practical tips for avoiding legal liability when gathering private information, right here – http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/practical-tips-avoiding-liability-when-gathering-private-information

       1. Yes, I see the hotlinks. This deserves a boldened disclaimer though.
          As I said, my best friend lost two years of his life by using a clock-cam.

          1. Articles have maximum-number-of-words constraints. (A ceiling on how many words you can use when writing an article.) So things get left out as a result. (Which is where the comments come in handy; for comments such as yours – good stuff.) Also, articles are edited by ROK staff members. This includes trimming down articles, deleting entire passages, and, in some cases, completely changing the verbiage of titles submitted by authors. So you might send an email to the publisher if you feel strongly about anything you might read in any article posted in an Internet forum that features published works…had it been up to me, I would have put the disclaimer in bold type. But the author does not have final say regarding what ultimately gets posted, or put in bold type, or anything else, for that matter. I have noticed that a lot of commenters appear not to realize this, and tend to shoot the messenger (as well as the message), which is why I brought it up…party on.

          2. Hey now.
             I’m not taking a personal shot.
             The article is valuable and informative, I’m just speaking from a position I feel strongly about.
             I felt the need to inform fellow readers of the tantamount level of importance in making sure they know they’re legal. I understand you did add a disclaimer, but as an adept reader and writer, I felt they could use a more direct warning (as most people on the internet scan introductions and skip to the goods).
             A misstep in this area leads to a FELONY CHARGE that the courts FUCKING EAT UP. My dude was in the local news every day for a week when he was arrested.
             I apologize that my real-world, direct experience led me to believe their well-being superceded your need for an ego-stroking.

          3. The problem with written words is that readers tend to emphasize certain words when reading them, which carried no such emphasis in the mind of the author. Meaning there was no intent in my words, nor any emphasis – as in, I wasn’t taking a shot at you. I was outlining how the editorial procedure works, from my perspective, and how a person might rattle the cage of the appropriate person if they really feel fired-up about something (contact the publisher). However, controversy is a really good marketing tool and if back-and-forths such as this one, pull more eyeballs to ROK as a result, I’m all for it. Even if it results in an ego or two getting batted around…

          4. Curious as to why you then felt the need to tell me about how readers commonly shoot the messenger if it wasn’t a behavior you were attributing to me.
             Regardless, my point is made.
             Prost!

          5. “First off, this article doesn’t put enough emphasis on the legal ramifications of utilizing some of these devices.” (A casual observer might interpret this as “taking a shot” at somebody…we could play this game all day long, which might increase readership – I say let’s go for it.)

          6. After you’ve read my responses here, do you disagree with that statement?
             I mean, you already blatantly admitted you do not.
             No matter the causation, the current product is deficient in the capacity I’ve addressed.
             Now If I’d said “Bob Smith isn’t good enough because he didn’t say what I want him to have said,” I might agree that it could be taken in such a hostile manner.
             But it wasn’t framed toward you. It was for the benefit of the readership here, whose freedom I value thoroughly.

          7. I think it would be very valuable if you were to write out exactly what happened to your friend. Like from A to Z, all the way through it, blow by blow. Some people are likely to read these comments who need to know the extremes of the consequences they might encounter, should they try to record their spouses/girlfriends. That’s just my opinion. I don’t mind the back-and-forth, dick-measuring thing, but I think it might be more effective if you were to write the whole thing out. I mean, “for the benefit of the readership here”…or even better, write an article and submit it to ROK. You have experience in the field and you obviously write really well. Hope you do it.

          8. Interesting. I could compose and submit a properly formatted, detailed article on the subject…
             😉
             But that’d require me getting paid the same as any other ROK writer…

          9. An excellent point, sir. (Still laughing…)

          10. 🙂
              Its been fun.

          11. Back at ya my friend…until next time.

          12. Once again let me reiterate that your friend fucked up not by recording to provide defense in a crisis, but by posting revenge porn on the internet. Yes the charge included the recording itself, but how would anyone have known of the recording if he had not posted it? Recording might be illegal, but the only time you will suffer the consequences are when you publish the recording, or in any way let people know about it. Up to three people can keep a secret, but only if two of them are dead. This article is about recording for self defense not revenge. If used in the light this article indicates the issue you raise is not pertinent.

          13. Your point is really moot. You have made it over and over to no good benefit. If this article was just about recording devices without any guidance on how to use them against false charges or in breaking up with a GF or divorcing a wife your point might be germane. As it is it is not.

          14. Lol. Got a hard-on for my posts?
              So, my point of “arm yourself with knowledge” is moot?
              There is no debate left here.

          15. Your knowledge is about not posting revenge porn on the web, which is not the purpose nor subject of this article. You seem incapable of noting this distinction so I guess you will continue posting this dire warning to one and all.
              Note I am not saying that what you are posting is not true, nor am I saying that it is not good information. I am just saying that it is a tangent from the article and is not pertinent to this discussion.

          16. See if you had felt the need to scour this thread for ALL of my posts and not just five of them, you might’ve picked up on the one where I noted how I thoroughly researched all of this subject matter myself and now use a voice recorder, call recording and video recording on my residence, but do so in a manner that I know I’m not liable for.
              My point is that average joe internet-jockey might 1-click amazon order his way into a serious set of consequences of he doesn’t do some damn research.
              The reference to what happened to my friend was meant to convey an extreme of what could (and likely would) happen in the case of a misstep.
              But no, you’re right. Everyone reading this site is as intelligent as you or I and hasn’t stumbled across it in a blind internet search due to a blue-pilled meltdown.

          17. I will just ignore your comments from now on as we aren’t going to come to agreement and I find your comments not useful in this discussion. Good by and have fun.

          18. Thanks for sharing?
              Likewise.

    3. Good post. Do not present the offender with the evidence. If she is just a gf, gradually ease her out of your life. If she is your wife/live-in gf, consult a lawyer…

       1. Absolutely. Its best utilized in a formal setting where the evidence can be sprung without giving her a chance to contemplate talking her way out of it.
          Regardless. I’ve presented audio recording to police officers knocking on my door, I’ve used recordings to settle a dispute with a motorcycle licensing school, and I also have a storied history in loss-prevention security. Your verbal account of an incident is hearsay. Recordings are a remarkable tool, but must be adeptly utilized within the confines of the law.

          1. Maybe let your best friend/brother/father review the video first. I am only human, and Im sure I’d make the wrong decision without a little help with something like this

          2. Well its about making sure that you’re within the bounds of the law. Video recording without consent is not legal in my jurisdiction, and recording an intimate act is felonious. Recording a conversation in which you are an active party is okay, even if done electronically (as long as the person you’re talking to isn’t in an area where his consent is required to legally do so).
             Confusing and risky shit. But yes, taking a step back and putting another set of eyes on it is always a good idea.
             That aside, you don’t have time to let someone else make that judgment call when the cops are on your doorstep looking to collect you based on a fallacious accusation.
             Do your research.

          3. This article is about making recording as a self defence in extreme circumstances, not about making and posting revenge porn on the internet. Sounds like your friend didn’t get the distinction.

          4. Lmao. How asinine can one get?
             This happened three and a half years ago.
             Because of his mistake, I thoroughly researched the laws surrounding these types of devices and consider myself well-informed.
             If you choose not to inform yourself and just say “Fuck it.” I still wish you luck.

          5. So you choose to avoid spending two years in jail for illegal recording and instead expose yourself to 20 years in prison as a rapist and a lifetime on the sex offenders list. Sounds like a bargain. If you record, and tell no one, how would you ever come before the law? The only time you would use the recordings is to defend yourself from serious charges. Then the only serious issue would be inadmissibility of the recording.

          6. ” If you record, and tell no one, how would you ever come before the law?”
             You download the videos to your computer then it is stolen or hacked, or you take it in to be repaired and the repair tech snoops on the videos. Your GF gets curious and examines the device, discovers what it is. The device is stolen from your home. The police take it in a search warrant for another reason.
             Be careful.

          7. Pointing out that posting revenge porn is an obviously bad idea is ‘asinine’? If you need to ‘research’ to find that out then you sound like the kind of person who needs it explaining why you shouldn’t play in traffic.

          8. Yes. Assinine. As. Fuck.
             Because no one is disputing that fact and my point is so obviously NOT ‘be careful if making revenge porn,’ but in fact BE CAREFUL IN GENERAL.
             It sounds very much to me like my detractors here are the ones who need a damn warning.
             But no, go ahead and do whatever you want without thinking it through or planning for contingencies whatsoever first.
             How very masculine of you.
             Oh. Wait.

          9. I also worked for two different wireless carriers for a total of 3 years.
             Think every last one of those dudes isn’t tempted to copy all of your media while they’re performing a data transfer?

          10. You appear to be remarkably stupid. Most people with an IQ above 12 know that posting revenge porn is wrong and don’t need to be warned to ‘be careful’ about it or to ‘think it through’. You and your friend sound so retarded that you should probably be removed from the gene pool.

          11. Cute.
              Yeah ignore the fact that I don’t advocate, nor offer advice about revenge porn and that I urge the need for research into local regulation before employing these devices in order to avoid legal ramifications.
              Again.
              And also for the last time
              – you numbskulled jackass –
              I researched the law heavily because of something retarded a friend of mine did and learned, to my horror, that some of the ideas listed in this article for defense-against-the-dark-arts can in fact lead to a long prison sentence and a lifelong branding as a sex-offender WITHOUT posting the recordings online.
              Merely possessing them is enough.
              If you don’t care. Cool. Someone else just might.

          12. Since I never claimed that you advocated posting revenge porn your reply is utterly pointless and stupid, which reflects on you. I merely point out that the fact you felt the need to ‘research’ before realising that posting revenge porn can get you in trouble is good evidence that you are an utter retard.

          13. Dude.
              My warning has absolutely fucking nothing to do with revenge porn.
              Thats just an event that happened that prompted me into researching the laws surrounding various types of recording equipment.
              How many times do I have to say it?

          14. The fact remains, you had to go and actually ‘research’ to find out that posting revenge porn is a bad idea. You just keep compounding the proof that you are a retard.

          15. Alright. Ive officially decided you’re either trollin’ or a complete moron with a fifth grade level of reading comprehension.
              Either way I’ve got better things to do guy.

       2. This goes without saying in any relationship….. real men do not breakup with women ….. they just sideline them and replace them….. this is why women are always needy and craving attention because they know that if you are not around its the beginning of the end.
          You only say goodbye if you expect to see the person again.

       3. Yes. Do not confront them with your spying ways or they will flip it on you

    4. The legal aspects can be a gray area…… if law enforcement shows up to a rape claim and you have footage they will likely drop the case on the spot even if the recording is inadmissible or technically illegal……police are not lawyers and judges… they are human beings and also wanting to avoid paper work and frivilous cases……..
       As far as spying on cell phones and computers goes….it all sounds great in practice and if there is a red hot smoking gun… all fine and good….. the problem is it can become addictive and obsessive and when not much is going on then the gray area of iuendo and mixed messages can drive you up the wall……

       1. Keep in mind, police responders have a primary duty to collect evidence against offenders. They don’t drop charges, they initiate them. The mood of the cop and his (or her) level of indoctrination will determine whether unintended charges are levied against you.
          Not my kind of odds.

    5. Was your friend doing this just to be vindictive (ie just film a hot chick and post her naked on the internet) or, as discussed in this article, to protect himself from the criminal feminist state? If I was facing a rape allegation, or whatever other crazy shit a woman could throw at me, I”d gladly submit illegally obtained evidence that clears me.
       It’s horrible that one could be prosecuted for using stealth recording, but a 2 year sentence is far better than whatever they do to a rapist, and there is zero stigma to someone who is convicted for “audio recording” than someone who is accused, much less convicted, of a sex crime.

       1. In his case, malice. He was betrayed by a girlfriend that was complicit in his actions and ultimately what led to his downfall was the use of the camera itself. The online postings couldn’t be explicitly linked to him.
          This is unrelated to the overarching theme of this article, but still relevant as, in contemporary times, law enforcement may exhibit little contemplation before throwing charges.
          Ill add in another anecdote.
          In ages past I had this awful girlfriend. She once let herself into my apartment, got drunk, smashed my 40 inch tv and broke a few other items.
          I arrived home, found her trashed sitting on my couch and called the police.
          I waited for them outside. They showed up, I explained the situation and told them I would remain outside so as not to aggravate the situation.
          They reappeared 10 min later with her in cuffs, I shit you not, totally naked. (apparently she had decided to strip down and go to sleep in my ransacked livingroom)
          I exclaimed to them to put some clothes on her (pre-manosphere days) and rushed inside to get a blanket. I approached with said blanket and tried to cover her with it.
          I was immediately arrested for resisting arrest
          Yes, it was thrown out in court.
          But I believe it still illustrates my point that guessing or attempting to anticipate the mental state and decision making process of a police officer is a tenuous move at best.
          Ignorance of the law is never an excuse, so be sure to arm yourself with knowledge no matterwhat you do.
          That way, you can confidently make a decision to put yourself in a vulnerable situation if, as you mentioned, the relief outweighs the cost.

          1. I’m still scratching my head at the police arresting you. That’s just.. incredibly bizarre. But perhaps just a lesson learned to never white knight 🙂
             Anyway, as your friend was filming a chick in an act of malice, I would expect and possibly even want the government to prosecute that type of damaging and harmful behavior. I would *NOT* expect them to punish a man who broke a lesser rule against filming in order to prove his innocence for committing a rape or other heinous felony that he was falsely accused of. I’m not a lawyer, but it wouldn’t surprise me that there’s a legal defense that allows one to act this way (IE can you run a red light if someone is chasing you with a chainsaw and you want to get away from them?)
             While police have had their discretion minimized over the years, they still do have the power to decide whether to arrest someone or not. Hell, my last encounter, I got pulled over for speeding and did not have my license, and the state trooper let me go. And in other cases I barely roll through a stop sign and get a $100 ticket. It is up to the police to decide what to do, and if the man remains calm, professional, respectful, and explains logically why he did what he did to protect his innocence, he has a really good chance of nothing bad happening to him. But if there are female officers / prosecutors his chances are far worse.

          2. In hindsight, the lesson learned was priceless, albeit of delayed recognition.
             As per my friend’s actions, yes, he made a very poor choice, but again what got him incarcerated in the end had nothing to do with the intent he had in mind, it was that he illegally captured the video at all.
             I really have to disagree with your latter point though. A legal defense to setting up a system meant to engage in illegal activity with the hope that you might catch someone else doing something wrong?
             The legal system cannot abide that.
             If it did, what would stop someone for shooting a man dead because he might be a suicide bomber?

          3. I know a couple of lawyers, so I will ask them, but I do think there is a legal theory that allows this. One permutation would be the “good Samaritan law” which suspends liabilities that would otherwise be legally enforceable if one is acting in good faith to help another. Also, I just can’t imagine someone being prosecuted for running a red light, if, for example, a murderer was chasing them.
             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessity_in_English_law
             There are, of course, many moral, ethical, and practical reasons for choosing to break a law, on top of the legal ones.

          4. Yeah, I agree it should be the case.
             Even the good samaritan laws come bundled with a ‘duty to assist’ as well as penalties for failing to continue aid indefinitely until first responders arrive.
             I’m just not into gambling with the law anymore.
             I can’t count the amount of times I’ve been in cuffs and luckily Ive never been jailed long-term, but the idea of going down for defending myself from some stupid bitch is agonizing.
             Like I said, I use these devices regularly myself. Just careful about it.
             If you get that input from your friends please share.

14. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
    You can’t record anything without letting people know that you’re recording them. It will be inadmissible in a court of law. The best it may provide you is truth to the public.

    1. This is not true in most states.

       1. I think my next-door neighbor is a witch (a warlock, I guess, is the proper term)…he keeps thinking he has the right to speak freely. I’m going to rat him out to somebody. Who the hell does he think he is?

15. for simplicity, audio recorder on phone, and ask the right questions.
    “how much fun was that consensual sex we just had?”

16. Alternative title: “How to become a troubled creepy asshole and make all women cringe, and never get any pussy again”. Thanks, but no, thanks.

17. Download this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fox.voice.audiorecorder
    With just a swipe and a tap you can covertly record everything that’s happening…

    1. Awesome. I have a recorder, but this one has a desktop widget that you can tap once to start recording without having to even open the app.
       Phenomenal suggestion.

       1. Thanks! Not really a great solution to false rape accusations unless you record her unwittingly “giving consent”
          Ask her to talk dirty to you
          Ask her to tell you what she wants
          Record her saying something that makes it easier to identify her from the recording

          1. Pehaps not.
             But more times than I like to admit, Ive found myself in situatuons where an inebriated female initiated ‘domestic violence’ against me and then tried to cry foul after being repeatedly warned and then ultimately disabled.
             The ability to nonchalantly start the recording and pop the phone back in your pocket is golden.

18. Marriage means entering into a hugely unfair legal contract with the state that would allow my wife to divorce me for any reason then collect state-supported cash and prizes.
    I learned the hard way from catching a previous girlfriend cheating when she didn’t log out of her email on my computer. I actually agonized about “violating trust” before checking it. Goddamn, I’m glad I did. That completely changed my attitude about using any means necessary to know the score when the stakes are high.
    I’m now ruthless about protecting my interests.
    Before I got married I vetted my then-girlfriend with some of these techniques. I asked myself, “Why wouldn’t I do it?” That made the answer clear.
    You would be an idiot just to “trust” a woman before putting yourself in the potentially ruinous legal position that is marriage.
    Like Reagan said – “Trust, but verify.”

    1. “That completely changed my attitude about using any means necessary to know the score when the stakes are high.”
       BINGO!

19. This is just going to send men to prison.

    1. How so?

20. Is it really worth all of this? I can’t think of a woman worth all that effort.
    Yes I know the changes in law have made the old ways men dealt with it ineffective, but there’s always ‘no’. If women found they couldn’t get decent men any longer they would stop it. If woman is such that you need to watch her, why bother being with her in the first place? If all women are like that today maybe it’s best never to be a position with them where you need this.
    It could be the ease of finding men that’s the problem. Childhood diseases and risks used to kill off a lot of boys. Then war too. Now women don’t value men because they think there’s always another. Another who will put up with whatever she does. A society too disconnected for her reputation to be ahead of her. If it was this big of a problem before technology human society would have collapsed long ago.
    The ultimate tool remains the word ‘no’. However it must be used before entering into a legal contract with a woman or otherwise falling into a position where she can leverage the law. If only more men would use it. If they couldn’t count on the next guy saying ‘yes’ they would be able to behave better.

    1. Exactly what I was thinking while reading this! Go find a good, feminine, foreign chick, or stick to the amazing high quality porn being created in massive quantities every day. I can’t imagine putting up with this kind of shit just to get my dick wet.

    2. I agree fully with your sentiments (see my above comment). However, the exception to this is the false rape accusation. Many men are addicted to getting laid anytime the opportunity presents itself. So they end up having sex with a lot of random women, the majority of which are probably a few bricks short of a full load. Then recording may make sense. I prefer to avoid these situations rather than record these situations, but I am old and over the fog of testosterone which pushes many young men into risky behavior with marginal women.

21. I feel like all this is going way overboard. This all seems way to passive-aggressive. Just kick her to the curb if you are so paranoid!

    1. I feel like its a covert advertisement…

22. If you think you have to watch her, you don’t need her. Next. If your married, it is already over and it is going to be financially painful. Then you might as well collect all the info you can. Had a work colleugue do the spyware on his wife. Discovered more than he ever wanted and divorced as quick as he could.

    1. You hit the nail on the head with your first sentence. On the flip side, say you have some suspicions and decide to record your sweetheart everywhere she goes any way you can for a week; you go through it all and turn up nothing incriminating. At that point, do you think “Well, guess I was just being paranoid – she IS innocent.” and carry on your life as if you’d never been suspicious in the first place? Somehow I doubt it – “Maybe that week she received a visit from Aunt Flo which scuppered her adulterous plans. Better record her for another week … ” And so it will go on.

       1. The truth will always float to the surface and she will f*ck up eventually as she will need to constanty attempt to submerge the facts. Just pay attention to details and cross examine her. Also watch her friends– they enable her. The aforementioned colleague found his wifes emails to her girlfriends that related to setting her up with cock was the first clue.

          1. My rule of thumb that has proven effective over decades is that if you suspect she is cheating she is cheating. No evidence is required just NEXT. If in a small number of cases the woman is suspected and not cheating, why continue a relationship where you don’t trust the other person. Better all around to just move on.

       2. This is a good point. Being suspicious all the time is unhealthy. It will drive you crazy.
          Listen to your spidey sense. If something feels weird a few times you might want to check it out.
          Also, fully vet a girl before you marry her even if your spidey sense is not tingling. Why wouldn’t you do it?
          If you’re thorough and she checks out, lay off and relax. But always stay tuned in to your red pill antennae.

23. One problem not addressed in this article: who the hell has the time to trawl through hours – maybe days – of footage searching for the few minutes of interest?

    1. If you’re using the right setup everything should be time stamped.
       That plus fast-forward makes it easy (I used to do this for a job)

       1. I suppose it depends on your system’s specs, but my shop’s CCTV system is timestamped and has a fast forward function up to 16X speed. If I know roughly when I’m looking for then it’s not too onerous a task so if one had one’s suspicions about when and where things were happening then it could work.
          But if one were investigating on nothing more than a hunch that something was fishy, then that would be more like when I know nothing of when I’m looking for beyond ‘some time last Tuesday’. It would take me at least an hour to find that kind of proverbial needle in the haystack. And that’s with only one source to search through; the article suggests placing various ‘sources’ all over the place, thus multiplying the time one would need to review them

          1. Hey, fair enough.
             But since this article has a certain tinge of a sales-pitch, I guess I’d ask “How badly do you want it?”

24. Some good advice here, but I feel sorry for the guys who need to use this kind of stuff. Don’t get into relationships with ruined, crazy, western women. Minimize your interactions with them. Use them for ONS, and yeah, record that if you want (I don’t but it’s a good idea), but don’t get into relationships with them and get in the crazy drama and fighting. Find a good feminine woman abroad and you won’t need any of this crap.

25. Nancy Grace had a clip from a woman who was punching herself, got to protect yourself, their excuses and cunning know no bounds. cant find the link but this was in the news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM3gygwUFAw

26. One way or another I’m gonna find ya
    I’m gonna getcha getcha getcha getcha

27. I bought a cheap little audio recorder at walmart with 36 hour battery life. Stuck into her car that morning and retrieved it when she got home. Filed for divorce the next day.
    If you’re not married, don’t let it get to that point. If you’ve had to do it chances are she’s been unruly, disrespectful, and shady for a good bit…which is grounds for termination already.
    However, if you are married ESPECIALLY with kids by all means snoop. It will help you immensely with custody, finances, etc in the divorce.
    To any people criticizing these men as insecure, controlling, etc…you’ve probably never had everything youve worked for ripped away from you because of court bias and your spouse’s lies. I got away clean, but I had to spy to do so. She was cheating, planning to drain our bank accounts and take off, using me to pay for her school, slandering me to turn our families against me, and exposing me to STD’s i could never get rid of (i found all this out in just a thirty minute recorded car ride. Yikes! It’s because they openly brag about their wickedness every chance they get. However “in tune” you think you are to the nature of thots, record one and get back to me. We’re gonna need a bigger boat).
    yeah…she’s the victim. Fuck off.
    I’m all the wiser now, but share this testimony for other men so they don’t have to go through it. You will recover emotionally and physically…but you will never ever get the TIME back. Beware.

28. This is all just too weird. The person who would resort to such extreme stalking methods is so much worse than whatever the victim might be doing.
    Normal people would never do such a thing, especially without marital commitment.
    Normalcy is so underrated in life and love.

29. Any woman I would take up with today I would insist on meeting her ex and getting his side of her story. I know she probably would never allow it and so I’m just fine to stay in bachelor mode. I’m happy either way.

30. All of this stealth stuff is unnecessary. All you need to do when you meet a new romantic interest is to simply insist on meeting her ex
    and getting his side things. She probably would never allow
    it though so just be fine to stay in bachelor mode and be happy either way.

31. Most Useful Article Ever. Check out the legality of this with a lawyer. Laws vary widely from state to state.

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