253 thoughts on “The Old Testament’s “Sexist” Views On Female Behavior”

1. It’s a disease in Christianity which we are calling “Churchianity”. The excellent blogger Dalrock has written rather extensively about the many organizations and prominent “pastors” leading their flock as far from the truth as possible.
   dalrock.wordpress.com
   And, as long as I’m linking things, Vox Day announced Infogalactic (a Wikipedia alternative) on Monday.
   https://infogalactic.com/info/Main_Page

   1. It’s called Protestantism. We fought against that for a while.

      1. I got zero problems with the five solae: Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Sola Christo, Soli Deo Gloria.
         It’s those who reject these principles who have no place in Christianity.
         EDIT: I spoke too hastily and too harshly. I am a man, and I can err. However, I point to these five points as protections against many heresies, among which are those we now suffer.
         Sola Scriptura, in particular, is a protection against the kinds of errors Roosh highlighted. The Scriptures teach some plain truths about women and marriage, but many are the teachers and preachers who deny these truths. At the heart of the Sola Scriptura teaching is Paul’s teaching to Timothy:

         All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is useful for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness.

         This said, I do apologize for the harshness of my tone. I see that which poisons the churches around me, and I see those things that poisoned the churches before us, and I grow zealous. I pray God forgive me if my words should be a stumbling block to any, and I beg your pardon for my zeal.

         1. The five solas are not the problem: it is the implicit division that Protestants have created. Protestants are like communists, incapable of agreeing in anything and splitting into new currents every several years. Both are self-destructive faiths.

         2. I read an essay by Anthony Ludovici, in it he makes a great case of how Protestantism’s bastard child Puritanism caused the rise of feminism within Anglo societies. If I find it I’ll link it here.

         3. Yes, please. It is funny when I hear some Americans blaming Catholics for the increase of leftism in the US, while the rise of leftism came directly with the Mayflower.

         4. http://www.anthonymludovici.com/fadfemin.htm

         5. Thank you very much.

         6. Anytime.

         7. So Catholics and Orthodox (Greek, Russian) have no place in Christianity, huh? And neither do folks like Augustine, Jerome, Thomas Aquinas, John Henry Newman, or Joseph Ratzinger?
            News to me.

         8. Perhaps I overspoke. In which ways do these individuals disagree?
            Sola Scriptura seems most likely, as these sects are heavy on extra-biblical traditions. It’s not unlike how the Jewish sects of Jesus’ time (and the present) rely heavily on the Talmud.
            Following that, I would guess perhaps Sola Fide or Sola Gratia, as many focus unduly on works. It is true that “faith without works is dead,” but it is no less true that “it is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.”

         9. If it is the separation that is a problem, perhaps the bishop of Rome should not have declared his primacy over the entire church.
            But I will agree that the divisions are multiplying, and for poor reasons. We let the devil in the door, and he subverts all he touches. Then we split from them and repeat the feat.

         10. Although I can’t deny that protestantism has generated division in Christianity, it also saved theology.
             Don’t be so fast in judge Protestantism, as they have the most accurate interpretation of the Bible. They’re the ones who liberated the sciences and colleges and separated the Church and the State.
             I can’t blame you for thinkg like this tought, since american protestantism is basically destroyed. But if you look at history and outside of 1st countries, you will know what I’m talking about.

         11. Sola Scriptura and Sola Gratia are not even a biblical concepts. The very bible comes from the Church (who determined which books were accepted and even its internal order. Jesus never spoke of spreading the Bible, he talked about spreading his teachings.

         12. Don’t be so fast in judge Protestantism, as they have the most accurate interpretation of the Bible. They’re the ones who liberated the sciences and colleges and separated the Church of the State.

             What a good joke. If anything they strengthened the trend towards State Churches. The Protestants from the very beginning became a branch of the governments in which they were located (Germany, England, Scandinavia, etc) a trend that definitely started by the end of the Middle Ages as the Catholic church lost power…and only in this century has been lessened.

         13. I totally agree. Although this progress came in detriment of future civilizational stability as we see these days. 0% of the SJW crap we experiences these days came from catholic countries.

         14. Biblical example of Sola Scriptura can be found in the Bereans. They listened attentively to Paul, and then they went and checked the Scriptures to see whether what he said was true. It can also be tied to Jesus’ rebukes of the Pharisees and teachers of the law, when he rebuked them for adding onto the Law. In the days of the Reformation, the traditions held many teachings which plain study of the Word seemed to contradict. This is why the Protestants (in theory) adhere so strongly to this Sola – they are reliable accounts against which all new ideas can be tested.
             As for Sola Gratia, I point primarily to Ephesians 2:8-10. “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this not from yourselves, it is a gift of God; not by works, lest any man should boast. For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works which God prepared in advance for us to do.” The doctrine of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, is found most clearly here.
             This is not to say that works are meaningless, for “faith without works is dead.” However, it is not our works that save us (for “without faith, it is impossible to please God”, and “the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord.”) Nor is it the word of any man that can save us, for “there is no other name under heaven given unto men by which we must be saved.” Nor do we hold with the teachings of purgatory, for all we know from Scripture regarding this is when Jesus told the thief “today you will be with me in paradise.”
             As to why the books of the Bible are ordered as they are, it is done by categories. As to why the books of the Bible are in the Bible, that goes back to the days of the first Council of Nicea, where the elders gathered together to separate the contemporary gnostic teachings from those of the early Christians; whatever books were held by all to be trustworthy were kept, and those known to be errant were discarded. In no council that I know of was the Old Testament adjusted or questioned – the books were merely reordered by the monks over time.

         15. Well, I guess a humble response is in order….

             As for Sola Gratia, I point primarily to Ephesians 2:8-10. “For it is
             by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this not from
             yourselves, it is a gift of God; not by works, lest any man should
             boast. For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works which God prepared in advance for us to do.” The doctrine of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, is found most clearly here.

             I will just post the following:
             Hebrews 12:14- “Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.”
             Matthew 16:27- “For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.”
             1 Corinthians 13:1-2- “Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”
             I could post a lot more verses but I hope you get my drift. In a nutshell: Works and faith are necessary for salvation, at least according to the traditional Christian faith. Just faith or just works will land you in hell.

             As to why the books of the Bible are ordered as they are, it is done by categories. As to why the books of the Bible are in the Bible, that goes back to the days of the first Council of Nicea, where the elders gathered together to separate the contemporary gnostic teachings from those of the early Christians; whatever books were held by all to be trustworthy were kept, and those known to be errant were discarded. In no council that I know of was the Old Testament adjusted or questioned – the books were merely reordered by the monks over time.

             What a great way to circumvent the little detail that in those times, the Catholic church was the one who selected the books, the one who summoned the Council you speak of and whose men were in charge of the translation and sorting out of the books. Before the term bible was even invented (St. John Chrysostom by the way) the bible was just a collection of scrolls barely ordered.

         16. Regarding the notion that the Catholic church compiled it, this was a pre-schism arrangement, meaning that members of the various churches were in attendance.
             Regarding the combination question, recall the story of Paul and the prison guard. The guard asked him, “What must I do to be saved?” and Paul replied “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.”
             I again repeat that faith without works is dead. However, it is not the works that bring salvation, because our works are merely what is expected as slaves to Christ. By grace we are given faith, and by faith we are no longer slaves to sin but slaves to Christ. As Jesus said, “So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.”

         17. You cannot deny, however, that within the last 20-30 years, Social Justice has come to mean for most Catholics as redistribution of wealth and the condemnation of said wealth. I don’t mean to split hairs or start a friggin’ Holy War, but oddly enough, the Bible has no explicit condemnation against wealth (being well off), nor holding private property, amongst other things. Poverty is hardly a virtue in and of itself, lest it not be used by the hyper-religious for “boasting” or false humility.

         18. I just attempted to establish some sort of historical perspective. Although, at this point in time, I would say that most of Western Christianity is totally crooked and rotten.

         19. To be fair, many of today”s Catholics are, like reform jews, a sect absorbed by protestantism. Hell, my own mother is a Catholic, and yet she talks about joining parishes for their community, and she’s involved in some crusade over a teacher who got fired by a priest. This is all wholly uncatholic, and yet she blabbers on about this nonsense incessantly.

         20. “As for everyone who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice, I will show you what they are like. 48 They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. 49 But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete.”
             Luke 6:47/49
             Words/faith are no sufficient for salvation. One has to work and put them in to action. So yes, i agree with you 100%.

         21. I have no desire to add to another comment thread Catholic vs. Protestant debate. If you want to repeat Protestant talking points, knock yourself out.

         22. You err. The Pope did not declare his “primacy”.
             Jesus declared his absolute headship over the Church, Matt. 16:18

         23. It did not “save” theology, it perverted and debased it.
             Read Jewish Influence in Christian Reform Movements by Rabbi Louis Newman

         24. You miss the one Christ specifically proclaimed – Sola Ecclesiae

         25. Man, I’m presbiterian, I know enough about the Reform, and I know not everyone wants to agree with it.

         26. Obviously Jesus wants what he shows to you to show to others, if that is what you mean by put into action.

         27. Prior to the Great Schism, the various bishoprics were largely equal. Rome was no different from Alexandria or Constantinople. The cause of the schism was the bishop of Rome declared himself the metaphorical descendent of Paul and, as such, announced his power over the others. In particular,the bishops of Alexandria, Syria, and Constantinople refused to acknowledge this, and the RCC split from the Orthodoxies.
             In the cited verse, Jesus did indeed give Simon Barjonas the name Cephas (or Peter) and granted him authority, but outside of the RCC traditions (since the schism) no one accepts that this authority was passed from the apostle down the bishops of Rome until the present day. In truth, based on the preceding verse, only Jesus Christ himself could do such a thing (for he made such an announcement following Peter’s revelation from God the Father that Jesus was the Christ).
             I also would draw parallel to the choosing of the new 12th apostle following Judas’ suicide. The apostles gathered together and elected Matthias, but Jesus himself appointed Saul of Tarsus as the apostle to the Gentiles. In the same way, in ancient times God the Father took the kingdom of Israel from Saul Barkish and gave it to David Barjesse, though wise men and priests would surely appoint Jonathan Barsaul.
             Finally, acknowledging that this will sound inflammatory above all else, I draw parallel to the appointment of the High Priests in the days of Jesus. In those days, families in the line of Levi could essentially buy a high priesthood for a year, and the position rotated in this wise. The history of the papacy contains many similar incidents, with the resultant popes often being evil men with none of the love of God in their hearts.
             The teachings of the apostles are consistent with the Old Testament, and with the teachings of Christ, and with the teachings of the other apostles. However, the popes and councils have frequently erred and contradicted themselves – for example, they have at various times embraced and rejected Pelagianism and Arianism. I shall stand alongside Luther – unless I am convicted by Scripture and by plain reason, I do not accept their authority. And, if shown my errors, God help me to be the first to cast my errant works to the fires.
             May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with all God’s people. Amen.

         28. Before I begin, a minor note: Ecclesiae would be “churches”, which would defeat the purpose of the teaching (that is, that the Church – namely the Roman Catholic Church – is sole authority over doctrine and teaching).
             As commonly formulated I would necessarily reject this teaching. Where it is true that I strive to align my thoughts and actions with the teachings of Jesus and his Apostles, I do not accept the authority of the Catholic Church. Where I find teachings of any church to be aligned with Scripture, I rejoice with them, but I cannot in good conscience embrace anything that appears in contradiction with Scripture and plain reason.
             I recall a similar problem with Martin Luther. Among his works were many the RCC considered plain and right teaching, but also among his works were those opposing (or at least questioning) the RCC’s traditions and practices (and works condemning particular persons among the RCC’s ranks).
             Even Simon Peter was frequently in error. The Gospels recount many instances where Peter was rebuked and corrected by Jesus, and even in Acts he was corrected regarding the Gentiles (“do not call unclean what I have made clean”) and regarding Paul (who he initially rejected). If even the small stone upon which the church is built (proper translation of Cephas and Peter indicate a small stone – a large stone in Greek would be “lithos”) can be in error, how much more those who have never discipled directly under Christ?
             It is for this reason that the Protestants promote Sola Scriptura over Sola Ecclesia. For while the popes and councils may err, the scriptures are “useful for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness.”

         29. Well said. There are simply far too many scriptural contradiction within Catholicism to take it seriously. They did very bad things when they were in control.

         30. No… You conflate. Perhaps deliberately. Absolution anyone ? Lol the Catholic Church was the perversion, not the purity. It has been a corrupt and evil organization with no respect for scripture since its very origins.

         31. Well said.

         32. You are an idiot that can’t read history. After you have studied the issue with real facts, instead of your made up pseudo-history, then you can have an opinion. SJWs like you always lie.

         33. You see, you don’t even believe in the Bible. It says “My Church”, not “My Churches” – one Lord, one Faith, one Baptism. When you decide to become Christian we can talk.

         34. They were never equal. Look at the early Councils and Eastern Bishops who clearly recognized the headship of Rome and her definitive actions. Read “Russia and the Universal Church” by Vladimir Soloviev for an Eastern/Russian understanding of this fact.

         35. You are definitely an SJW. SJWs always lie, and make up false arguments.
             Absolution – John 20:23 Speaking to the Apostles, the Bishops their successors, and the Priests – “Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.” KJV
             So give it up and become a real Christian – Catholics the original and only real Christians.
             She is called the Catholic Church because she is The Universal (Catholic means universal, one and only) Church of Jesus Christ.

         36. I acknowledge one holy Christian and apostolic Church, I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins, and I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life in the world to come.
             The problem is that of the wheat and the tares. Many have come preaching a Christ other than Paul and Peter preached, and many are those who will stand outside the gate. When we say “churches”, we most commonly refer to a particular congregation under one set of pastors or priests, and among these are many, many tares.
             I am convinced that there is but one brotherhood in Christ, but I am not convinced that any one faction holds monopoly on teaching and salvation. Nor am I convinced that the process of becoming part of a church’s leadership grants heavenly authority.
             One Church, but many churches. Only in the end, when the harvest is collected and the tares are cast into the fire, will it be entirely clear who has belonged to the first. Until that day, discernment is a necessary and vital spiritual gift.

         37. You should read that again – “ONE holy, Catholic and apostolic Church.” All others outside are the “thieves and robbers” you mention. There is no “Christian brotherhood” outside the Catholic Church – which all history shows is the original One holy, Catholic and apostolic Church of Jesus Christ.
             You are close, my friend, but at the end it will be too late. God gives us all a chance to belong to his true Church. Therein we must earn the right to heaven as militant believers as St. Paul says, “I discipline my body like an athlete, training it to do what it should. Otherwise, I fear that after preaching to others I myself might be disqualified.”
             You might think of Pascal’s wager, thus: The Catholic Church teaches that outside of her there is no salvation.
             If I think I can be a good Christian and saved some other way, I may therefore be damned because I am not in the Catholic Church.
             If I am a good Christian and within the Church I can be saved.
             Therefore the safest bet is to be a Catholic and good Christian within the Catholic Church.

         38. Your wager also makes sense in the days of the early Church: if I think I can be saved in some other way, I may therefore be damned for eating pork or failing to become circumcised. Yet Acts 15 details the decision of the Holy Spirit on this matter. I see no reason why the various yokes of the Roman Catholic Church are in any way dissimilar.
             I cannot, in good conscience, embrace a hierarchy that has:
             – At various times declared every possible stance on salvation to be divinely true and heresy
             – Encouraged the veneration of various saints (among which are pagan deities – I speak of Saint Brigid as example) above their station – that is, slaves to Christ now asleep
             – Withheld the plain text Scripture from the people (via the Vulgate of Saint Jerome)
             – Promoted extra-Biblical heresies in order to raise funds (I speak here of indulgences)
             – Caused two of the biggest schisms in the history of the Church (the Great Schism and the Reformation)
             – Appointed as head men of ill repute and men who reject the plain truths of Scripture and their own inherited traditions (I speak here of the various “evil popes”, the various Italian purchases of the papacy, and the present Pope)
             – Replaced the Pauline requirements for bishops with new regulations (that is, when Paul insisted that bishops be “husband to one wife”, the RCC reinterpreted this to mean celibacy)
             – Punished innocent monks and bishops for questioning the traditions when they appear inconsistent with the Scripture
             – Done all these things claiming sole authority under heaven
             It is my endeavor not to be a student of Apollo or of Paul, nor a follower of Peter or of James, but a slave of Christ. For I follow after a High Priest under the order of Melchizedek, one Lord in heaven and on Earth, with the Name that has been placed above all Names. Christ Jesus alone is mediator, and there is no longer any temple or curtain to separate us from Him.
             So it is that I trust in the Holy Spirit (the Helper who teaches all things and brings into remembrance all that Christ has said), I serve my High Priest (that is, Christ), and I worship the Triune God in spirit and in truth. I have but one Teacher and one Father.
             His will shall not be broken. I pray today, as every day, that His will be made known to all who call upon His name.

         39. That is because you have not studied the Faith, only subvariants of it. Before converting I studied the Fathers of the Church, the Councils, the Popes and Saints, etc. If you invest the time, and bother to pray the Rosary for 30 days with a request to Christ and Our Lady to show you the truth, you will arrive at an understanding and divine grace.
             Pascal’s wager offers you a logical reason – you risk your soul otherwise. How lucky do you think you are?
             (By the way, your interpretation of Acts 15 is wrong. The Holy Ghost gave the vision, but until Peter accepted and promulgated it it was not Christian teaching – “And I will give unto thee (Peter) the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Matt. 16:19

         40. I have written all these things as explanation, to show my reasons. You made your case very clearly, and I have attempted to make mine.
             May the Love of God dwell in you richly, and may the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with all of God’s people. Amen.

         41. I beg your pardon but you have no grounds for that womanly insult. I will not put a middle man/tax collector in between myself and my faith. What you do is your own business. You are free to follow “her” as you see fit. My understanding is that scripture is not to be taught by women.

         42. You are quite obviously hysterical. I can’t Sinatra you into your senses over the internet so I’ll leave you to it. I am done.

         43. SJWs always double down on their lies.

         44. Typical SJW misdirection. Can’t answer the question, because you have no Christian answer.

2. “She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse.”
   They lust after dogs and donkeys and horses, too. Women will fuck anything. They were biologically designed and hardwired to take dick. Doesn’t matter what the dick is attached to…and that’s why they have to be constantly supervised. This is just how they are. Look at gangbang films in porn. Those women are absolutely eating that shit up. You can’t fake the type of lust-filled looks that many of them get on their faces, nor those ubiquitous “I’m in total heaven” smiles. You know what I mean here…that smile that says, “I am finally able to be what I secretly was inside, prior to doing porn. I am free now and I am such a slut and I love it.”
   By the way, is it just me, or is Diqsuck (er, I mean, Disqus) massively messed up today?

   1. Is this why bitches are not satisfied until I stick my fist in them?

      1. You know it could be…I like to forearm fuck them sometimes…

         1. Up to the elbow….

         2. Up to the shoulder…

         3. That’s a lot of work. I just bring out the Louisville.

         4. Go for it, slugger…

         5. Might as well kick a hotdog down a hallway!

         6. I fucked my mom with my whole body.

         7. That was really sick – and I liked it.

         8. I think everyone has done that to some extent.

         9. Jesus tom
            You have always been a navel gazing sad sack quick to whine about your mom.
            ..
            You just trying to be as freuded as possible?

         10. “Elbow deep inside the borderline.
             Show me that you love me and that we belong together.
             Shoulder deep within the borderline.
             Relax. Turn around and take my hand.”
             TOOL – “Stinkfist”

         11. Whatever.

   2. “Those women are absolutely eating that shit up. You can’t fake the type of lust-filled looks that many of them get on their faces, nor those ubiquitous “I’m in total heaven” smiles.” Yes you can.

      1. No. You can’t. And that’s why some whores only do it once. And the others make it their thing.

         1. Are you a psychologist? Do you have scientific evidence that it’s real? Of course not, your entire basis of this is probably off facial expressions of all the women you have (not) “pleasured”. I am not doubting that some women may be into that stuff, but the idea that all women just love like Bob Smith asserted is insane. If you want to make extraordinary statements, then you need to back them up, and frankly, the ROK community is as bad if not worse than feminists at providing evidence.

         2. NAPSALT

         3. What does that mean?

         4. Are you stupid? Do you have any scientific evidence that you aren’t?
            If you a young woman is doing gang bang porn over and over again, she is enjoying it.
            Otherwise she’d be doing another type of porn. You do realize whores get to pick the genre don’t cha?

         5. Not All Porn Stars Are LIke That!

         6. “Do you have any scientific evidence that you aren’t?” I can defend a negative case until the aff (you) present a affirmative case.
            “If you a young woman is doing gang bang porn over and over again, she is enjoying it.” All this proves is SOME women may be into it (specifically, the women who quite often do those scenes), then again though they could just be doing it for good pay.
            “Otherwise she’d be doing another type of porn.” Ever heard of pay scale? Here is an example: Women who do anal sex scenes get payed about 4 times as much as vagina sex. Why? Well, because anal isn’t fun, and can actually be harmful.
            “You do realize whores get to pick the genre don’t cha?” No, producers pick the genre, then go out and find women to be in it.

         7. LMFAO.
            Stop making shit up. Anal scenes are not 4x PIV.
 Most chicks do porn for the money. They are not doing gang bangs for the money.

   3. I rarely find porn that looks like they are really enjoying it. That’s usually amateur porn or porn with some ‘sweeties’ that haven’t been in it for too long.

      1. Tons of pornstars make gangbangs their specialties because the love it. And these aren’t old washed up chicks either. It’s really disgusting what feminism has unleashed.

   4. Are you referring to not being able to log into Disqus unless you go to the Disqus website? Past couple months its been that way for me.

      1. I experience these episodes of people typing to a comment I made – “Three people are typing”. Time goes by. Maybe 10 minutes. I check back, same notification. Then, the comments never appear. And there are huge breaks in between comments – it’s as if 12 people are exchanging comments, and they all get up and leave at the same time. Vanish.

         1. That’s really weird . I’ve Logged into my account once, and somehow, I was logged into another persons account. I’ve also been noticing Chinese symbols appear in my Disqus home page sometimes , when my smartphone is loading the screen. The symbols disappear once the screen loads.

         2. That’s bizarre, too, what you wrote about. It’s so bad on my end, that if it keeps up, I’ll find a new diversion…eats up too much time. And I like ROK, bummer. That’s how it goes sometimes.

         3. I get them chinkograms too.

         4. After logging in last night I got a tinny window box (same as when you transfer a file) for like a second. Turned laptop wife off and scanning fully.

      2. I have to login, then refresh the page. I also have flash disabled and disqus seems to want to use flash, which I’m not going to allow, sorry.

         1. I actually just tried it , and the issue seems to be resolved…must have been one of those things…

   5. Theyll fuck anything except you, Joe Nice Guy Law Abiding College Educated citizen.
      Some times I like to troll Domestic violence video threads on YouTube. You’ll be surprised (I lied, no you wouldn’t if you’ve lurked here long enough) of the young, attractive women who stay for years on end in relationships with men who beat them. Men not necessarily rich or famous BTW. One girl was in a relationship with a drug addict who beat her, but couldn’t leave because, you know, love. And these are girls in their fertile prime.
      On the other hand, I’m sure all of us have stories about girls we’ve bent over backwards to be nice to and it’s amazing how easy they managed to leave without being trapped by love.

   6. I think you’re projecting your insecurities more than anything. I’m pretty sure you have a bestiality porn fetish, and a gangbang fetish, and you’re suffering from representation bias.
      Stop watching the vids, go outside and get some fresh air.

      1. Thanks, doctor, I’ll go for a brisk walk right now…

3. Yep.
   This is one of the major reasons why leftists hate Christianity so much, and why they constantly cite the Old Testament as “proof” of God’s incompatibility with modernity.

   1. Most of the leftists hate christians because they want them to worship at their alters and they flat out refuse. The fact they give fealty to G-d and not the state, perverse causes, virtue signalling, etc.. is what generates the hate. They won’t submit. Today it’s just hunting down christian bakeries with lawsuits and getting them fired on some HR corporate policy guildeline. It is going to get much worse.

   2. Meanwhile at Reverend Man-up’s church…
      

4. “You sure don’t see it being taught in modern Christian churches” When was the last time you attended to Mass and listened to the pastor’s sermon, Roosh?

   1. Mass? What has Babylonian-Romish superstition to do with the Bible?

   2. Masses have homilies, not sermons. 😛

      1. The Novus Ordo Mass has homilies. The Extraordinary Form of the Mass still has sermons.

      2. Not to intrude on you gentlemen, but homilies are when the priest interprets Scripture and sermons are exhortations regardless of the readings of the Mass. We have a priceless gem of a priest who does both every time, and he’s afraid neither of feminism nor the bishop’s frequent complaints.

         1. He’s plenty afraid of feminism.
            That’s why only men are priests,
            but preach on crazy bitch.

      3. They’re also supposed to be in Latin but eh, that standard was relaxed as well.

5. I can handle a popup here and there every once in a while but I have been getting hit with multiples every time i visit the site. the worst ones take me to the top of the page.
   I know you make part of your living through this blog – it would probably be better to add value instead of popups…

   1. Email [email protected] with your device info

6. There are some churches like a particular Anglican church i listen to on the radio who preach from the bible still and the sermons are really good. My own church is probably more feminized like you mention ie sermons on relationships etc. The songs are also like love songs

   1. The songs are also like love songs…
      

      1. They refer to the very honorable and holy figure in a religion as “baby”.
         Wow.
         Only in Churchianity.
         If you dare to refer to Allah or Muhammad, Jesus, Abraham, or other prophet in islam with the word “baby”, surely, someone would be after your head.

7. Allow me to wax existential for a moment.
   Why do we form societies and governments? What is their purpose?
   Surely it is not simply to collect monies from everyone in order to operate schools so that children may grow up to have ever-nicer jobs creating widgets (and now, virtual widgets), in employment centers?
   Nor is it simply to create efficient pathways (roads, bridges, and transportation facilities) that rapidly and safely move people from work to home.
   Nor is it simply to hire law enforcers so that the widget producers may have the profits of their widgets safe in their homes, without fear of theft or harm.
   Surely there is something more.
   Do we not form governments in order to create, preserve, and enforce a certain way of life?
   Are western governments not only failing in this duty, but actively working against the goal of civilized society?
   Is not the government subverting, destroying, and attacking the way of wisdom, happiness, and peace, that one finds throughout western history, throughout Christianity, throughout philosophical and moral teachings since the beginning of time?
   Forget “stabilizing oil prices in Iraq.” Forget “preventing ISIS from instituting religious law in Iraq.” Forget “putting sanctions on Iran to do things the way we want them done.” Forget a plan to lower health care costs, or allow students to “buy now and pay later” for their education, and all the other bullshit you will hear the candidates talk about in this election.
   Why do we even have a government? And why is it failing to institute the very basic rules that are needed for a peaceful, pleasant, happy, satisfying life?

   1. Great point. We are living the feminization of the West. Ethinicity and nation are concepts alien to female mentality. They do not understand them. Women are solipsistic, self-centered: they are no more than their wombs. Not only this, we have actually gone even further: women are now EMPTY wombs. But, they must still be mothers of something: here you are the “animal rights” and “welcome refugees”.

      1. Instead of just belittling women to nothing just a womb, come up with an actual arguement. This article should be a slap of reality to all you “righteous” men of God to live a life it seems like you are in favor for. Oops I forogt, men dont need to submit to anything. Not even God. If you dont submit to God yourself, you dont deserve a wife that is submissive as well too. Hopefully you realize this one day, but for now, keep bitching about women. Damn.. and they say women complain.

         1. Men cannot deserve wives that simply do not exist anymore on a general basis.

         2. Actually they do exist, on a general basis in other cultures. In westerm socieites, I must admit its harder to find. But its kind of like having similar interests and lifestyles. If you dont live like her, most likely you will never even know she exists or where she would be found.

         3. I totally agree. I’ll have to live in West for several years extra. This will have to wait, unfortunately.

         4. There are other cultures that live in the West. And no, Im not talking about Asians. Unfortunately, this whole world is being corrupted, both men and women. Yes, I am a Christian and adultery or sexual immorality is not only limited to women. Think about that before you guys complain. This world is the way it is today because you as men failed.

         5. We men let this happen. But now it is too late to revert it. Feminism is so ingrained, even here in ROK.

         6. Its not just feminism. Its consumerism, materialism, sexual immortality.. basically a society that fell from God.

         7. Your “It’s not just feminism”… is all that feminism talking.
            Get it right. It’s 99% feminism. You would NOT have all that other shit without feminism.

         8. Someone is bitter. It isnt just feminism. There is a whole batch of other things mentioned that is the demise of mankind…biblically that leads to death and not life. You just blame feminism because that’s all you see at this point. Its ok. The world still turns and people still screw themselves over and over in each generation, centurym etc.

         9. I’m sure you’ve tasted a lot of bitter, but this is just plain honesty.
            Feminism enables that other shit. Sorry you are too stupid to recognize that.

         10. Im sure all those other things didnt exist before feminism… you are right dude. And instead of fixing yourself before God, its easier to blame and insult someoneone else honestly…

         11. That is absolutely absurd. You really don’t believe hat consumerism (for example) came before feminism ? Also, this arrogant way of insulting strangers is part of the problem. A BIG part of the problem. This kind of nonsense isn’t fit to come out of a mans mouth.

         12. Okay, how about this; the promiscuous women of the west utterly failed to police their own and now they are going to go extinct. Your error is in thinking nature cares about your preconceptions of what proper dialectic is. It doesn’t.
             Your comment isn’t an argument, it’s tu quoque; you haven’t disproven anyone, you’ve simply tried to divert attention from the point they are making by pointing out their hypocrisy. The truth is the truth whether it is spoken by the pure or the hypocritical. In other words, just because someone failed a math test, doesn’t mean 2 + 2 stops equaling 4 if they state this fact.

         13. Feminism was created by the elite to double sales and double tax revenue, with the added bonus of tons of emotional voters. Countless men fought against it. The progenitors and those who fought it are dead. You cannot hold those alive today responsible for the actions of the dead, which is why baptism exists.
             However, god understands the folly of trying to get women to take responsibility. Which is why he commands immoral women to simply be punished in the harshest manner possible.

         14. God doesnt want punishment for anyone, but their choices bear consequences. Now, women, are not the only ones that can be punished. Men, are held accountable for their families as being heads of the household. Immoral women are socially punished around the world, in some rather harshly. Jesus doesn’t call for death for sinners. He allows for repentance and forgiveness, but that comes with a changed life. Most of the comments here are based on calling out immoral women and complaing they have ruined society, but if you men were always the head, then it is actually you that has failed. You failed God, and this is a taste of what it is like. Hence, I said this is a society that fell from God, and no, not only women. You complain there are no virtuous women, but you have no problem sleeping with whores. You are known by association. You cannot call out someone elses sins before God but not see yours.

         15. If you are saying it is the nature of women to behave this way.. then you havent digested what God says about nature of mankind. The female body is a symbol of sexuality and the demand for it comes from men. Whose nature is it to seek immoral women? What pisses me off here is there are literally guides on how to get into a womans pants and ways to go about a womans refusal. You put so much effort into thinking of ways to sleep with women, including all the obstacles. Yet the nerve to complain how easy women are. They are just taking the lead of general society, the herd, in which almost all of you are a part of. So there really is no need to differentiate you men from these whores you associate with. If we taking about virtue and Godliness, God wouldnt reject the whore you are with and take you with him. Both will be rejected, per association. It reminds of the song by three six mafia “Dont Save Her, She Dont want to be Saved “. Yet the singers ironically named “three six mafia” dont realize their asses need to be saved too lol
             They are not in a better position than that blind women

         16. “What pisses me off here is there are literally guides on how to get into a womans pants and ways to go about a womans refusal.”
             I agree that it is hypocritical to bemoan women’s whorishness whilst simultaneously enjoying it. …But I think that though this is a PUA site, the readership of this site is not limited to PUAs — I’ve noticed that many of the male commenters appear not to want to bang sluts all day, but rather just lament what modern women have become. No doubt many of them would have formerly been happy settling down with a chaste woman and living what was once a normal family life.
             “This world is the way it is today because you as men failed.”
             This a complete denial of female agency and responsibility. …Which is a typical female retort, of course, but it’s still false. Women are adults (at least technically) and are accountable for their morality (or lack thereof) — if a woman chooses to become whorish and worthless, that is her decision and she bears the blame. Just as if a man chooses to have sex with such garbage, he is responsible for doing so. You’re right to point out that men are shifting blame when they complain about women’s whorishness whilst eagerly screwing almost anything with a vagina — but when you then blame men for all the worlds ills you do exactly the same thing.
             “Jesus doesn’t call for death for sinners.”
             According to the Bible, Jesus is God. And God does indeed demand death for certain sins. In the Gospels, you don’t find Jesus out campaigning against capital punishment…
             …And it’s worth remembering that the doctrine of Hell as a place of eternal, burning torment began with “gentle Jesus, meek and mild”. That’s far worse than simple death.

         17. You took my quote out of context. If we are saying that men are the head of the household or woman, then their leadership has failed. Of course women are at fault, but they were not in the leadership to begin with.
             Capital punishment is a political and physically related issue. Jesus came specifically to save ones spirit. He didnt come to handle political matters. His Words resonate through time irrelevant of government and kingdoms,etc. His own disciples were killed, tortured, jailed in different places under different leaders and thrones. He says do not be afraid of what hurts the body but the spirit. Eternal hell does sound brutal but thats where human choice comes in. Most people dont even fear that anyways, people are more about physical pain and matters of the flesh.

         18. “You took my quote out of context.”
             No I didn’t. You overstated your case. You wrote that the world is the way it is today “because you men failed”. You make no mention of women’s part in this catastrophe.
             “Capital punishment is a political and physically related issue. Jesus came specifically to save ones spirit. He didnt come to handle political matters.”
             If Jesus was God, then that same Jesus gave the law that calls for women who have sex before marriage (who “play the whore” as the KJV puts it) should be stoned to death.
             You — like most women — want Jesus to be a white knight. He wasn’t.

         19. Then it was in another reply where I gave more of an explanation.
             The Old Testament is Jewish law. Im a Christian and not a Jew. Yes I read the old testament but I focus on Jesus, as it says ,if you knew me, you would know my father. Obviously things changed. Actually, Im not like most women, nor most people, because the reason I speak passionately of Jesus is because I have had biblically symbols dreams since I was 10. And yes, those dream are and were prophetic to me and have kept me from becoming like anyone else. Jesus helps btw.

         20. Sounds interesting… Have you written anything online about these dreams? I’d like to hear more…

         21. No I havnt written them online. Honestly I havnt shared them with others until recently. Where would I write them?

         22. ….

         23. If we are talking about the bible, it is adultery that is a sin. I have never lain with another man’s wife. There are all sorts of people in the manosphere, taking the worst and painting them over the entire thing is just trying to start fires. Women who go to bars half naked, talking about how much they like sex and poisoning themselves until they can’t think aren’t trying to avoid having sex; they are trying to tempt men so they can claim men are solely at fault, and take no responsibility.
             Either women take responsibility for their actions or they are forever beneath those that do. If you really care about women, you would steer them from the path of sin rather than make excuses for them, laying flowers upon their wretched path.
             It is men like you, who make excuses for women, that allowed women to become this corrupt. God calls us to virtue, an act of discipline, not permisiveness, the progenitor of vice.

         24. Jesus calls for adulterers to be put to death. The old testament was called the torah, which means the word of god. Jews became wicked when they turned to the talmud, which is the word of man. After they did this, god proclaimed them to be golems.

         25. Jesus does not call for anyone to be put to death. Jesus forgives sins and wants to instill the love he has for us for one another. The old testament is superceded by the New. Jesus proclaims, if they knew the Son, they would know the father. Everything was given to Him so the laws in the old testament are void for those who follow Jesus

         26. Adultery is a sin, yes. Engaging in lustful thoughts is as well, so then men casually sleeping with used women they arent going to marry is as well. If we are talking about spirutual purity, that is a life that emanates to ones physical actions including sex, lust, etc. So a man that follows God does not associate with dishonorable women period. Im not at all defending women. I want you men to realize how hypocritical it is to use God’s word as a standard for a womens behavior but not for yourselves. It is almost saying the Bible was written for women only, whilst you overlook anything regarding men or relationships between both.
             Im a woman. I just dont like hypocritical things like this when people cite the bible for female behavior but those same people are far from God themselves.

         27. St Thomas Aquinas describes effeminacy as being opposed to perseverance. The unwillingness to deny oneself pleasure in pursuit of what is just. Insulting strangers is also a big problem alright. Probably would count as effeminate.

         28. I fully agree with everything you say. Furthermore, contraception is a major contributor to the breakdown of society (rather, man’s use of it). Contraception made people believe that they could have sex without consequences. However there are always consequences. Women became mere objects of man’s gratification. It was no longer as important to consider whether the person you were sleeping with was a worthy father or mother. God gave us this great gift of sexuality and reproduction but we say that the means is good but the ends is bad. God does not approve of this. Gen 38:9 He knowing that the children should not be his, when he went in to his brother’s wife, spilled his seed upon the ground, lest children should be born in his brother’s name. 10 And therefore the Lord slew him, be- cause he did a detestable thing.
             Contraception also says that sex is only for pleasure. Therefore how can one insist that sex is reserved for one man and one woman. Why not three men and a dog?
             Contraception is also the gateway drug to abortion.
             Even though I have lived a shameful life myself. I have had a conversion to the Christian Faith myself and it is beautiful thing and thanks be to God for his grace. If men are waiting for women to take the lead it is a sad state of affairs. To have sex outside of marriage is to commit adultery.

         29. Contraception did allow for pleasure only without the consequences. You are right, but see, people dont see that as wrong. We have altered certain things to accomdate our feel good society.
             If I may ask you, what caused you to change? And based on your username, are you from the states?

         30. Thank you for sharing that: it indeed has Biblical symbolism, and certainly makes more sense than the dreams I have (they’re always disjointed, surreal and confusing).
             And yes, I agree with you: there is without doubt “something out there” that works to keep people from truth and salvation in Christ.
             Do you have these dreams often now? (I’m wondering whether there’s a way we can send messages via Disqus without derailing this thread — but it seems we cannot.)

         31. No I dont have them often as often as I want lol. I havnt had one in a while, although one of my last experiences, I happened to see what was going to hurt me seconds before it happened and I moved out of the way. It wasnt a dream.
             I was trying to figure that out too, but you cant separately message someone it seems like. Im new to this site, dont know

         32. ” We have altered certain things to accommodate our feel good society.”
             I couldn’t agree more.
             “If I may ask you, what caused you to change? And based on your username, are you from the states?”
             It is by God’s grace alone that determines our
             What caused me to change was having children. I have two boys under the age of 3. When the first was born I really began to seek the truth. I became very anxious from watching conspiracy theories about a supposed New World Order and the likes on YouTube and I felt helpless as a father.
             I found myself aligned with the Church on many social and political issues and I couldn’t help but notice the hatred of Christianity by the media. I decided to start reading the Gospel and I was blown away. I know longer felt helpless.
             My girlfriend (now my wife) initially was pulling against me as she was a devout atheist (but a much better person than me). I prayed and fasted for her conversion and eventually she came around thanks be to God.
             We now have a Christian family and it is a beautiful thing.
             There is going to be a New World Order, It’s going to be called The Kingdom of God.
             I am Irish by the way. Are you familiar with the username? Johannes Scotus Eriugena was a great Christian philosopher and huge inspiration for St Thomas Aquinas.
             Where are you from yourself?

         33. As St Paul said, “But by the grace of God, I am what I am; and his grace in me hath not been void, but I have laboured more abundantly than all they: yet not I, but the grace of God with me. “

         34. Thanks for sharing that. Im from the states! No i am not familiar with the username.
             I am very happy for you. 🙂

         35. while there should be a focus on Jesus….the old testament is vitally important.
             Christians love to say Jesus did away with the old testament….yet all He actually does away with is the law of moses. now we need to ask the follow up question…..what is the law of Moses?
             the law of Moses includes the 10 commandments according to most people seeing as Moses actually gives those out. yet we keep the 10 commandments.
             the law of circumcision Moses was completely against. even refusing to do any form of it even with God handing out a death threat. so despite the fact that circumcision as we know it today looks nothing like Abrahams(ours today is full blown infant rape) and Jesus even heals a circumcision and Paul condemns it….we cannot attribute this to the law of Moses.
             so precisely what is the law of Moses that Jesus does away with it or rather fulfills?
             so focusing in Jesus is fine and dandy….but there is an old testament….it is between 1100-1200 pages vs the new testament which is 300-400 pages. and unless you can precisely tell me what Jesus meant by fulfilling the law….which laws precisely does He mean?

         36. I will tell you this from my personal experience. Jesus came to change people by spirit. Laws of dont this or that, need stricit physical adherence. HOWEVER, when one changes internally and spiritually with love, patience, forgiveness, so forth, in the face of many difficulties, one begins to see how different it is to move and live spiritually versus physical, routine, law enforcement.
             To understand this, the holy spirit is key. Dont want to sound weird or crazy to you, but Jesus still interacts with people and that for me is more important than what preachers say or societies say because they are flawd, corrupted, etc. I only look up to him. I read the old testament, but it doesnt lead me. That is why Jesus is the sheperd, and honestly realizing what has been revealed to me, I really see how blind everyone else is… adhering to strict laws, religious or not, is surface level and that is not what Jesus came to do… create socieites here.. no. Obviously. Being extremely religious was something Jesus was against as well.. those are things of show and presentation. What He aims to change is your heart, mind, and spirit. Is this making sense?

      2. “But, they must still be mothers of something: here you are the “animal rights” and “welcome refugees”.”
         This is gold in order to understand modern women. In the absence of real men, they will rather focus on their career or in some crazy obsession with animals. I have a colleague at work for instance, that treats her cat like a fucking human being. An then, like you said, the refugees…Its all narcissism in my view. I mean, if it is to help people in need, we already have many in the West in that same position.
         Its all about posting on social media some stupid hashtag and some stupid selfie of “hey, look at me, i am helping some crazy ass muslim that views me as cattle. Im such a adorable human being”.
         Then compare this with the manner they murder their unborn children because they want to pursue a career or have the latest i phone and we get the picture of how these whores truly value life and human dignity. This world, brother, is truly disgusting sometimes.

         1. Hey I’m completely on board with helping the refugees. You know the best way to do that? Destroy the sick, radical Islamists who are causing civil war in Syria, which is exactly what Putin is doing (while the west funds said rebels).

         2. The same with economic migrants. The only way, people from the underdeveloped world, can achieve some level of safety and wealth is for them to stay in their homes and fight for a better future…in their fucking nations!

   2. Fuckin’-A right…what he said.

   3. Ask the question: “Who Benefits?”
      Then examine the history of who was behind the various changes. Who paid for the intellectual support. Who influences who. Who works for who. We’re not supposed to look. Look anyway. Go back a 100 years. A 120 years. It becomes evident what is going on.
      Government and everything it does, all the services it has taken a monopoly on, are functioning as they are designed to function.

   4. Exactly. It is only natural that when you don’t agree with a certain ideology of a group of people that you can’t expect to be part of this group. Nor should you expect any benefits from them.
      As soon as a government thinks that it has to do right with everyone (which is impossible and moronic) it will fail.

   5. Great takedown of the shortsided idiocy and gluttony that is western materialism. Spot on.

8. A beautiful woman who lacks discretion is like a gold ring in a pig’s snout. (Proverbs 11:22)
   https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/2b/a2/f0/2ba2f00d1ed61115724ed96a9b308863.jpg

   1. Man, that Proverb really sums it up.

   2. seriously though, what is it with white girls trying too hard to look “tribal”.

9. The ceremonial rites of Christianity date back to the time of the Pharaohs – if not before. It’s kind of amazing how Ancient Egyptian society was similar to our modern version of society. At one point, each major city had a deity the people worshipped, a god. And it was usually an animal (eagles, lions, etc.). Kind of like every major city in the USA does today, with the NFL teams the people worship (Eagles, Lions, etc.). And the priestcraft back then, they wore hoods, and disseminated nuggets of minor knowledge to the flock, while hoarding the really good stuff for themselves. This is the origination of the word, “priesthood”. It also gave rise to the Masonic term, “hoodwink”. And here’s one that really sums it all up (meaning blind faith) – most Christians have no clue what “amen” means. It means, “That which is hidden” (rough equivalent). So you’ve got all these clueless Christians saying “amen” and they might as well be saying “hooba-gooba-jim-booba” for all they know…bizarre.

   1. “And the priestcraft back then, they wore hoods, and disseminated nuggets of minor knowledge to the flock, while hoarding the really good stuff for themselves.” What kind of “knowledge” is this? Sounds like some sort of psuedo-philosophical bullshit to me.
      “And here’s one that really sums it all up (blind faith). Most Christians have no clue what “amen” means. It means, “That which is hidden” (rough equivalent).” If by roughly, you mean completely off the fuckin mark, then yeah. It actually means So it be/So be it; Truly” The word isn’t even of Egyptian origin, it’s of Semitic linguistic origin.

      1. Depends on whom you consult. Opinions vary.
         There’s a Hoodwink Island fairly near Elephant Island, off the coast of Antarctica, where Sir Ernest Shackleton, CVO (Commander of the Royal Victorian Order), OBE (Officer of the Order of the British Empire), FRGS (Fellowship of the Royal Geographic Society), and a man who was knighted by the Queen, allegedly piloted the small open boat, the James Caird, 800 nautical miles in horrific conditions with a small crew of men, to South Georgia, in the southern Atlantic ocean.
         I remember reading about that story, and seeing a movie about it, as a kid. And I thought to myself, “This is a load of horseshit. Nobody could pull that off.”
         Hoodwink Island. We’ve been hoodwinked. (Wink-wink.)

         1. Opinions vary, huh? I would love to know whose opinion it is that “amen” is a “rough equivalent” of “That which is hidden”. It certainly is not the opinion of any Hebrew or Christian scholar (you know, the folks that actually use the term).
            The specific Hebrew word amen (or, more accurately, ’amen ) is derived from a related verb ’aman, which means “he confirmed, supported, or upheld.” This verb is also associated with the Hebrew word for truth ’emet, which carries the idea of certainty or dependability (i.e., that which is true is that which is certain or dependable).
            So there.

         2. So are you a Captain Bligh “truther” as well?
            Was Joshua Slocum pure hokum?

         3. Nah. I just think the Shackleton story is sketchy…

      2. Egypt is afro-semitic so he’s half right

         1. Both the Semitic family and Egyptian are Afro-Asiatic, but Egyptian is not Semitic, and even if it was, he is still wrong about the root of the word.

10. “Forget “preventing ISIS from instituting religious law in Iraq.”
    Im more concerned about sharia religious laws being instituted in the usa and europe.

11. It’s amazing. For tens of thousands of years men have been evolving society, creating new systems of government, inventing countless trinkets that ease our way of life, improving our standard of living, finding more efficient methods of growing/sustaining food supplies, building cities, destroying them, then building new ones on top of those…….and women have simply continued being whores.

    1. A dog bites
       A cat meows
       A horse runs
       A cow grazes.

       1. And djdjdj was born from women simply being whores.

12. ROK Article: People in other countries get more sex! Americans are sexually deprived!
    ROK Article the next day: Promiscuous behavior is bad and you are going to hell if you are promiscuous. American women are sluts…
    Please, can we see a bit more editorial consistency here?

13. “But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband (but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not(3) divorce his wife.”
    1 Corinthians 7:10-11
    The certificate of divorce for adultery is meant for non-believers. Jesus was asked two questions and gave two answers: 1) Divorce was never part of the plan, what God has joined together let not man separate; 2) Moses allowed you to divorce because of your hard hearts, but it wasn’t that way from the beginning. If a man does divorce his wife for anything but adultery, he causes her to commit adultery. For believers there is no divorce. The apostle Paul reaffirms this for believers in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11; For believers, there is no divorce, but if a woman splits she is to remain unmarried or go back to her husband because, in the eyes of God, they are still married, regardless of what a piece of paper says. Try saying that inside a modern American church, then sit back and watch the heads explode. This revelation was crazy enough that:
    Matthew 19:
    10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
    Of course, at that time women didn’t have the ability to initiate a divorce, only men could. And men could have multiple wives, so if a particular one wanted love and attention, she had to earn it by being kind, feminine and putting out.
    Sorry, I guess I should also have clarified that a believer who’s non-believing spouse ditches out on them is no longer held to their marriage:
    1 Corinthians 7:
    15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

    1. “For believers, there is no divorce, but if a woman splits she is to remain unmarried or go back to her husband because, in the eyes of God, they are still married, regardless of what a piece of paper says. Try saying that inside a modern American church, then sit back and watch the heads explode.”
       Exactly. Jesus is very clear on that.
       Biblical teaching on sex can be pretty much summarised thus: the first man with whom a woman has sex becomes her owner — she can’t just leave him (neither can he just dump her) and go and start screwing someone else, and while he lives, she belongs to him (and neither can he just get rid of her, unless she has sex with another guy).
       God never intended sex to take place outside the context of lifelong commitment. And so if a woman has sex with a guy, she must stay with him. If they separate, then she cannot just start screwing someone else — she must stay chaste. Or return to the guy and patch things up.
       Say this to modern “Christian” women and feel the hate…

14. Interesting how this gets posted on a site that encourages slutty behavior and how to behave with sluts. The hypocrisy is ridiculous here. And who are these men running to immoral women? It is time to look into the mirror people

    1. We don’t condone slutty behavior. We understand the landscape our current predicament and make suit. Hopefully our efforts will teach lessons and make the sluts rethink their life decisions – albeit a low chance of that happening.

       1. Your efforts will help them rethink? I dont know how serious you can be with saying that, but if anything, your efforts encourage, promote, and justify those decisions they are making. You supply them with validation.

15. The sheer volume of paid government trolls on this site, is astonishing at times. Ad hominem attacks, saying the same things, over and over. Showing up at the same times, attacking people left and right. A guy’s gotta eat, I totally get that…just wanted to point out the obvious. Carry on, troll dudes.

    1. Care to point any out for us there?

       1. I would do that for you, Jerry, but your profile page doesn’t seem to exist as of this writing –
          http://disqus.com/by/Jerry%20Beckett/
          Communicating with ghosts kind of creeps me out. I’ll pass.

          1. If you leave the spaces out, my profile (along with my 290 comments over the last 3 years on various sites) will appear just fine…http://disqus.com/by/jerrybeckett
             So about those “paid government trolls”… do they also not know to not include spaces in a url?

          2. Fixed it, huh? Sweet.
             Jerry, you’re just too smart for me. And I admit it. Now you have a wonderful day…

          3. [redacted]
             Finally, you write something that’s verifiable by evidence.

          4. I get that with Diqsuck a lot. It is some kind of problem with the encoding of the name into URL-compatible format. Doesn’t mean he’s not real or anything.

          5. Just because I’m paranoid that doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get me…

          6. That’s also true, heh. Reminds me of my sweet time at the psychiatry …

          7. Sometimes a man just has to detach…a half a pound of ground round (85% lean) in a patty with a thick slab of extra sharp cheddar; chilled blueberries, blackberries and raspberries with whipped cream; chilled distilled water with lemon juice. And the movie “Casino Royale” (2006) on DVD. It’s the simple things in life that I really enjoy. Like a good dinner and a good film…and a good paranoid discussion or two.

          8. You eat your burgers with berries? how is it?

          9. Eat the berries on the side…but now that you mention it…let me try that…
             I tried it. I’ll leave ’em on the side.

          10. We shall one day sit and have a bad trip together.

          11. Sounds awesome. They are terrifying but the good part is coming out of ’em…heh.

          12. I never had a good trip yet, but I consider it medicine. Bitter, but healthy.
              Last times I was with a guy I met at the psychiatry. Chilled dude. Basically, he just got totally relaxed and in a supreme mood, while I silently drifted away and the forces of the universe teared me apart, heh.

          13. Yeah you have to give up control, like you said…hard to do. I had a good trip once. For a while. But suddenly, some people’s faces started looking like the faces of demons, much like in the photo below…except with a neon-green cast. Other people’s faces looked normal.
              Man I love “Casino Royale” (Daniel Craig).
              Bond (to this hot brunette): May I give you a lift home?
              Brunette: That would really send him over the edge (meaning her boyfriend). I’m afraid I’m not that kind of girl.
              Bond: Well, perhaps you’re just out of practice.
              Brunette (after a count of two seconds, laughing): Perhaps.
              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3418d7e5779e753a78bbc7277cf82fae7dae407ef7cd9fe3a6697e40aa4ae318.jpg

          14. Yeah, Bond has solid banter.
              I had that demon-face thing, too, but I never explicitly thought of them as ‘demons’. It was more like … the ‘humanity’ was gone and they were simply flesh and bones. Machines.
              Hey, the ones you saw as demons … reptilians maybe? Or like in that movie where the guy has those sun glasses that expose everything.

          15. Kind of like the latter, in “They Live”. But the faces had subtle differences. The eyes were wide, Chinese-looking almost. All of them were green. And this was a group of my friends. About 12 people. I’d say seven or eight had the demonic features. So I freaked out, and had to get away so I started walking down the street (Midwestern USA, small college town). Walked by the campus, and encountered people along the way, walking on the sidewalk, at night. Some of them had the demon faces, some of them didn’t…so you saw the demon face thing, too. Can you give any details.
              I read this book about 20 years ago, “The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge”, by Jeremy Narby. It was about ayahuasca (a hallucinogenic), and shamanism. This guy went into the jungles of South America, found a shaman, and took an ayahuasca trip with him. After a while, the guy sees this gigantic, other-worldly snake curled up around the branches of a nearby tree. He’s terrified. He wonders if the shaman is seeing it, too. He doesn’t say anything to shaman. And the shaman finally says something like, “I see it, too…and be careful, it might bite you.”

          16. Hm, no details really. I think it was just me projecting something on others in this case, but it may be different for you. On my Ayahuasca ceremony, I had quite the intense ‘demonic’ experience, you can read it up on my blog in a lengthy 10-part article.
              It’s funny, isn’t it. How detached we are from things like these. Our mystical roots, so to speak. We Westerners with our giant egos. See a big snake and almost lose our mind. While the shaman was probably more like amused and thought: What, you thought things like that didn’t exist? Wtf man.
              But I think that often these things are like projections of ourselves onto the outside world. The fear of the devil … really a fear of the sides in ourselves we repress in our civilized life? Carl Gustav Jung may agree.
              I read a forum entry by someone who said he experienced being transformed into a snake and how it terrified him. And some more experienced dude was like: Well hey man. It’s a snake. It’s a living being like you. It has eyes, great senses, great mobility and other interesting skills. Try to open yourself up to it. A snake is not ‘evil’.
              But what do you expect … we read about the ‘snake’ like thing in the Bible and we become terrified of it. OMG I SAW THE DEVIL MEHEHEHEHE.

          17. Yes it’s a fucking huge universe. You took an ayuhuasca trip? Can you pass along your blog URL? You have more balls than I…the mere idea of ayahuasca scares me. I’ve tripped on acid and Magic Mushrooms. Ate a whole fucking ounce of mushrooms once. Thought I was dying. My nasal passage would close, and I couldn’t breathe out of my nose. The it would switch, and I couldn’t breath via my mouth, but the nasal airways would open up. This went on for several hours. Saw shit I couldn’t explain. Very real, at the time. Things flying around the room, crawling on the ceiling. A big bat flew around and around the room for a long time. For about 10 hours I thought, I’m literally (Hitler) dying. This is it. Maybe I died and came back…bwahaha.

          18. Yeah, dying, I think that’s the point. The classical male intitiation rites often have some form of dying in them, from what I have read. Pain is often a part too, as with the frog poison ritual (also on my blog). Have you seen this video where a rather tough looking strong Western guy with big ass muscles goes take the indigenous Bullet Ant ritual and after mere minutes, breaks down and starts crying like a baby? Compared to that, I bet even some of the ROK stuff is vanilla. The real red pill … that’s going far deeper than ‘success’ and ‘girls’ I think. It’s going literally to a rabbit hole where things fall apart and stop making sense and you face all the existential bullshit.
              This is the first part of the article series: http://manwithoutfather.com/2015/06/05/ayahuasca-the-devil-called-me-to-peru-part-1-iquitos/
              The main stuff happens in part 3-5 I think, but if you want to have the whole shitty build-up and all that, go ahead and read from part 1.

          19. That was some really intense work, Tom. I just finished reading Part 3 through Part 6. I felt like I was tripping just reading it. Thanks for the link to your blog. Your written piece about your ayuhuasca experience really makes me question things. I’ll have to think about it for a while, and see what filters out…nice. Hope others will read it, too. It is definitely worth the time expended in doing so.

          20. Cool, glad you could relate. Keep in mind that the things I wrote down I specifically wrote down exactly the way I felt back then. They don’t necessarily reflect how I would interpret those experiences these days. Although the warning is probably unnecessary as you are perfectly able to make up your own mind. 🙂

          21. I like the intensity of it – makes it seem more vivid with your personal thoughts and interpretations at the time. I have a little story for you. I think I mentioned Carlos Castaneda’s books to you once. And I might have written this story as a comment already. But I started practicing Castaneda’s dreaming techniques, where you control the content of your dreams. Took a huge effort. Finally it started working. So I’m in this bedroom in my dream. I look to my right, and there’s a window – one of those Old School windows with a locking hasp on the frame of the bottom half of the window, and it’s on rails. The window is half open. I imagine projecting my arms out, through the window, as if they are rubbery extensions. So I have my palms face-up, and I will them through the opening in the window, staying in my position on the bed. As my hands reach the outside air, the window slams shut. Boom. I manage to get one hand back inside, but by right hand gets the full effect. Ouch. I wake up a few seconds later. I’m on my stomach. My right forearm hurts like the devil, near my wrist. It is under my body. I roll over and look at my wrist. And there is a rectangular impression in the skin, like a window frame, and it is bright red and hurts like a son of a bitch…true story.

          22. Haha.
              Now the interesting question is: Did you hurt your real hand in your dream?
              Or was your hand hurting underneath your body and your dream created a situation to make you aware of that? Like when you go to the toilet in your dream while you really have to. Or like when some warlike alarm bell goes off in your dream and you wake up to realize your mobile phone is ringing.
              Not saying you’re a bullshitter, of course. Just considering the options. That kind of stuff happened to me a few times, although not exactly as you tell it.

          23. Jerry’s profile was there, open, and normal. WTF are you talking about Bob?
              Your profile: “Bob Smith” ? Private “Deal With It!” ? Sure makes you different in distinctive ways from the “ghosts” you won’t talk to.
              So far, you look like the troll.

          24. Man, I just don’t know. But I lean toward the notion that the dream world is as real as this world. Back in January, I had the following dream. Most intense sex dream I ever had. This will add another layer to the cake. Here’s how I wrote it down exactly, upon waking up –
              1/31/2016 (a 5 day): Had one of the most incredible sex dreams I’ve ever had. It occurred shortly before noon today. Was in this old house, Victorian house. I walked into this room which I knew was known for paranormal occurrences (knew it during the dream, makes no sense now). I heard a woman moaning from inside the closet. I walked in, and saw nothing. (Fuck I can still hear her moaning in my ear!) She was getting fucked, or she was masturbating. She was a ghost? She had no body to speak of, but I could hear her. Somehow, I managed to find her body. We kissed and I could feel her. She SUCKED MY DICK and it was fucking incredible. I had just penetrated her and had only thrusted about 15 times when I WOKE UP (no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). I think her name was Sarah and she was fucking delicious. I can still hear her moans in my HEAD. FUCK I WANTED TO STAY THERE WITH HER. This was one of the most real dreams I’ve ever had. Details: We fucked in this closet/anteroom that was L-shaped. There was a vertical window to my left, when I walked inside. I could see a marina outside the window. I could see her, barely, as if she was translucent but I couldn’t make out details. (I STILL HEAR HER MOANS AND HER VOICE IN MY EAR 15 MINUTES FROM WHEN I WROTE THE FIRST PART OF THIS.) This dream was so real. The way she SUCKED me was spectacular. I remember I was so turned on, and hot for her, that I lifted my dick up for her to get at it, and I told her to suck it, and she said, “Hold on”, and then I FELT HER MOUTH ON MY DICK. It was heaven. I woke up hard as a post…and here’s the trippy part…I have her SCENT on me. I could smell her for about an hour afterwards, a combination of perfume and pussy. Anybody that tries to tell me the dream world is just a fantasy, between this episode, and the many others I’ve had, well, I know better. Since when do dreams leave female scents on a MAN’S SKIN…
              (I wrote that in three parts. Wrote the first part right after waking up. About 15 minutes later I added and edited the middle part. And about an hour after I woke up I added the last part, after “I have her SCENT ON ME”, which I finished about 45 minutes earlier, upon adding the second part…that’s the best I can recall, timing-wise.)

          25. The most real feeling sex I had was in my dreams, but it never lasted long enough. Unfortunately, heh.
              That girl may be the Shadow. Or a part of it. I read a page called Kundalini-Teacher.com that talks about the “Divine Beloved”, which basically is “The one”. It is kinda the perfect counterpart to our conscious self. Our exact opposite. The perfect complement. The woman who runs that site says that one can, if (insert conditions here), let her come into existence for “real” (real for you, is my guess) and have sex with you. Although it may not be exactly the one you met, who knows.
              By the way, I just re-read that article of mine and I feel the need to point out that aside from the crazy (what does that even mean?) fancy stuff like the wormholes etc, this shit actually happened. I did actually run out of the ceremony and scream at the staff, run into the jungle like a chased deer and pee myself. It was rather a spectacle, heh.

          26. I think your ayahuasca experience sounds totally cool. Most especially the honesty about peeing yourself. Makes it more…um…relatable, more human. About the Shadow (or the Divine Beloved), that’s interesting stuff. I don’t know who the fuck my “dream girl” was but I haven’t dreamt about her since. There have been reports made over centuries, of spouses waking up to find their partner half visible, or only partially visible, as they sleep right next to them. (Half in this world, half in another one?) Same for spouses disappearing in the night after going to bed, and never being seen again. According to the books I’ve read (Yaqui Indian knowledge, supposedly), the dream world is as real as this one – in some cases; in others, not so much. And all people go to these other worlds when they sleep, occasionally. And sometimes they never come back…their bodies go right along with them, in certain situations, as they become more adept at dreaming. You know how mothers conclude that their children sleepwalk, because they find them in bed the next morning, with dirt and grass in their beds, and on their feet. In some cases mothers find this puzzling because no family members wake up, even if those family members are light sleepers, and nobody hears the person opening their bedroom door, walking down the hall, going downstairs, and/or walking outside and then returning. Of course, there’s the alien abduction camp. Don’t know about that one, I think that’s all cover for something else entirely. Well, what if they went to another world while dreaming…seems more plausible, really, if we can first accept that there are other worlds and/or universes that we can access, which we can’t see in the “real”, daylight world. Psychologists would jump at pinning it on sleepwalking. I don’t know about that. My experiences tell me otherwise, but I’m still not completely sold on the idea. I am leaving my mind open there.

          27. Exciting thoughts there, Bob. Who knows indeed.

          28. Those “spirit women”, are demonic.

          29. I thought about that one, too…at this point I’m on the fence about the whole issue. But what you wrote there very well could be the case…

16. “Wisdom will save you from the immoral woman…”
    Might be a good idea to follow that one, gentlemen. 🙂

17. Everything new is old. Everything always goes full circle.
    If we treated the writings of our religions as something other than mere “mystical teachings” and instead as God-given handbooks on how to live, we would all be better off.

    1. Doesn’t even need to be god-given -not that I’m against god, mind you. The validity of the lessons is self evident.

18. “I ask because you sure don’t see it being taught in modern Christian churches”
    As a person who was born in a christian household, I lived my entire life under the education of the Bible in the Brazilian Presbiterian Church.
    Unfortunately I can’t deny this statement. Of course, my church ALWAYS taught the ways of the Bible and that’s exactly why our denomination is relatively small in Brazil.
    Although christianity is the greatest religion in Brazil, most denominations are simply false, even the Catholics. They don’t confront people about their behaviors, they don’t confront the brazilian promiscuity that is known around the world. Instead they preach about money and sucess, and all kinds of messages to make the people feel good about themselves.
    The main reason Brazil is not worse than US is because brazilian men don’t swallow the leftist/liberal narrative easily for a simple reason: the reasoning of the left is just too effeminate. But they don’t get involved in politics either, that’s why the leftists are taking controle of everything, even though they’re a minority.
    The situation in US might be really bad tough, because my church are sending brazilian preachers to Presbiterian Churchs in US due to the lack of american preachers. The Baptists are doing the same.
    The reason why I’m saying this is because Christianity is declining in ALL the west, even in third world countries. Of course here people are still very receptive to conservative and christian values, but things are changing. Everything that happens in US is imitated in Brazil a few years later. If this pattern don’t change, we’re doomed.

    1. Its going to get worse before it gets better. I believe we are going to hit the ground violently and then, a renewal of the faith will happen.
       Abraço de Portugal!

19. Black pigeon speak :
    
    Why Women DESTROY NATIONS * / CIVILIZATIONS – and other UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS

20. Those old-world folks certainly knew something. They built civilizations where there were none. That takes strength and skill.

    1. And lots and lots of judgements. That’s why I hate the term “don’t judge!” because guess what? NO JUDGEMENTS = NO CIVILIZATIONS. Only plants and rocks don’t judge. Hell, even plants judge too.

       1. “Judge not lest ye be judged” Matthew 7:1-3
          Its fine to judge others so long as you have the introspection to know yourself, too.

          1. Exactly.

21. No DRAFT, no vote. Fair is fair, and now it isn’t fair to men.
    Women, do you have enough reason, logic, and sense of fairness to agree and change this? I won’t hold my breath.
    American women are FREELOADERS, they have a RIGHT to vote when men only have the government granted PRIVILEGE to vote while being required to die for it and women’s RIGHT to vote.
    American women have ZERO gender enforced roles, men have many and women benefit greatly from them, even as strangers to men that sacrifice greatly for the women that benefit. Disagree? Name one female gender role than is ENFORCED on them!
    Man haters disagree.

22. You don’t have to believe in a god to see the wisdom of traditional patriarchy. Mars colonization provides a secular, empirical test which would show who has the correct understanding of the nature of men and women. If you chose Mars colonists according to objective criteria for success, you would wind up with healthy, conservative, fertile, feminine women who respect organic sex roles and male authority, along with wholesome, intelligent, masculine men to marry them and procreate.
    This outcome would trigger the social-justice morons, however, and they would demand that the people sent to Mars reflect Earth’s “diversity.”
    The comedy script practically writes itself: “I don’t get it. For the past 20 years we’ve sent gays, lesbians, transgenders, assorted ‘queers’, feminists, pajama boys and otherkins to Mars. But the colony keeps failing. What have we done wrong?”
    And notice that this scenario doesn’t have to invoke ancient scriptures or theology. Reality itself shows us the score.

    1. And thus my friend, you have touched, or been touched by, great wisdom.

    2. you’ve missed the point…we were showing that even the ancients warned against going blue pill.

23. The woman in a healthy patriarchal society who faced shaming for sleeping around or having bastard kids lived more authentically than today’s women, because she learned the hard way that her choices have costs.
    When you shield women from the results of their sexual stupidity, by contrast, you deprive them of the learning experiences they need to become something other than overgrown children. With all the psycho-babble in our culture about the importance of “personal growth,” you’d think more people would see how you impair women’s psychological maturation by enabling them to have sex without consequences. Think of Laci Green, for example, a sterile slut pushing 30 who still acts like a high school girl. In a functional patriarchy, she would have gotten married several years ago and had children to give her life something better to focus on than her empty sexual hedonism with “boyfriends.”

    1. She’s a fat disgusting piglet. Why you use such a abhorrent example. At least use an atttactive whore.

24. Maybe its just the time to start a new religion out of the ashes of the old.

    1. Truly there are no religions only relationships. Religions are bound to fail and mislead

25. The Old Testament seems to portray a vengeful, spiteful narrative. .Its full of isms and God is one bad mad intolerant dude. I would never raise my kids with the kind of twisted morality inherent throughout that old book.

    1. He is what He his. God does not tolerate the intolerable and acts with fury…However, only after all other options are out. Just look at Abraham arguing with God about the just in Sodom and Gomorrah. The lesson is quite easy to grasp: you have the freedom to choose you path but also the freedom to bare the consequences of that path. Its called responsibility for your actions, something we seem to forget in the West.

    2. Your standards are nothing before the most high. Our conceptions of “good” and “bad” are relative to He. He is the alpha and omega, exists outside of the space and time continuum; he is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and eternal. His will is our morality, we the creations don’t get to apply our standards on G-d

       1. No he is the main protagonist in many human supernatural fairy tales. I am of the view that God was created by man in his own image. Man did this because psychologically he couldn’t deal with the fact he was merely a carnal animal full of lusts, envy, greed and many other flaws inherent in the human biological machine. An idealized spiritual father figure with no flaws was the core solution to this.

26. Next on Return of Kings: “How to game as many sluts in a single night”

    1. And?

       1. Just pointing out how the people so quick to condemn this sort of behavior are the first to take advantage and thus promote it.
          Women wouldn’t get any chance of acting like sluts if men didn’t give them the opportunity at every twist and turn.
          I won’t deny that women are all that and more, but it’s a behavior for which men are equally responsible, all the more so those men who openly ascribe to the “pump and dump” lifestyle of which RoK is a staunch promoter.
          In short, I’m calling RoK out on its blatant hypocrisy.

          1. WTF?
             Does it make me a hypocrite because I won’t punch a woman like I would a man? No. It just means I understand sexual difference
             Women are the sexual gatekeepers, men are not. Women are also hypergamous so men can’t be enabling shit. Take your feminist bullshit elsewhere. Fool.

          2. Does it make me a hypocrite because I won’t punch a woman like I would a man?

             No, that means you have different standards for different things. Whether those standards are correct or not is beyond the scope of this conversation. Also, it has nothing to do with what I said.

             Women are the sexual gatekeepers, men are not.

             I don’t disagree, but so what? The problem here isn’t that they withold sex. It’s quite the opposite in fact. The gate is open so you HAVE to go through. It’s not even a choice, right?

             Women are also hypergamous so men can’t be enabling shit.

             In order to be a slut, a woman needs to have sex with several men. Let me reiterate that: it takes several men to to turn a woman into a slut. It’s not even an opinion, it’s fucking maths.
             Are women prone to hypergamy? Yes. Do men promote hypergamy? Hell yes. A man LOVES having sex with as many women as possible and therein lies the problem. If you don’t like women acting like sluts then don’t try to have as much casual sex as you can with them.
             I’m not even saying that it’s wrong to do so, I’m just calling RoK out on its bullshit, crying over the disappearance of chaste women and then making guides on how to make sure there won’t be any left to find.
             If expecting men to be aware of the result of their actions and owning up their shit is feminist, what does that make you?

          3. Bravo. I especially love the Biblical quotes on how women should be, but not how men should be. Men should first and foremost submit to God, but because they have failed, then they shouldnt expect submissive women because in their words, women follow their lead.

          4. Premise 1: we are men
             Premise 2: men follow biology
             Premise 3: biology is the natural order
             Premise 4: the natural order is God’s creation
             Premise 5: biology has shown us that men are able to withstand sexual wear and tear through multiple partners whereas women aren’t
             Therefore:
             God does not make mistakes. Multiple partners for men – not so bad (but we are to avoid it)
             Multiple partners for women – tragic
             Corollary:
             Yeshua (Christ) taught us to live in sin no more, and includes sexual morality. So as men we are to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Again.

          5. so, men who are not from isis should be responsible of all the murders isis fighters are doing because they are men! foolishness.
             if 90% of werstern women are slut then the men who are not cuck can only make 2 choice, not dating or getting maried and live like a monk. or find an unicorn, but good luck with that.

          6. “The gate is open so you HAVE to go through. It’s not even a choice, right?”
             Well put. I’ve long lamented this.
             Sexual incontinence is hardly a virtue, whether in a man or a woman.
             ” In order to be a slut, a woman needs to have sex with several men.”
             Not really — just one man other than her husband is enough to make her a slut. The definition of “slut” has been defined down strongly, thanks to the sexual revolution…

          7. We no longer live in a society where women are taught to refrain from having sex after marriage. I use the term sluts for cheaters, yes, but mostly for semi-professional cock-riders.

          8. thank you neoalfa.
             so few here realize what you said….i’ve said it to, and it falls on deaf ears.
             women are as bad as men here at ROK claim….but the men fucking enable it. women could have no power if men didnt first give it to them. all it literally takes to tone down the slut levels of women, is for men to stop seeing a pair of boobs and going weak in the knees. thats literally it takes.
             a lot of time is spent on the pathetic of girls today….and a lot of time is spent on turning betas in alpha players…..but hardly any time is spent on turning boys and betas into good solid christian spiritual men with morals.
             the alphas from this site so often think they’ve surpassed the beta….perhaps they have, but theyve only continued to dig the same hole just differently than they did before.
             look i get it, men are broken today. we have absolutely in shambles. i understand that and i understand why. but we really need to stop encouraging men being whores.
             but hell…we live in a Godless world. a world that basically treats God as dead. the power Christ gives the apostles is nearly all but gone. Isaiah warns us of a future day where women and children rule over us and men become weary.

    2. The hypocrisy. They cant have one and not the other with the lifestyles they are promoting here. They are digging a hole within a hole and cant figure out why it its not getting them out.

27. It’s clear that Christian churches have been subverted by feminist
    thinking. The priests of today are no longer teaching from the Bible but
    making it up as they go along to appease the promiscuous women who fill
    the pulpits and want to be graced by God’s goodness will even though
    they don’t follow His word.
    I agree and this is another thing where we as men, must prevail.
    And this will be the toughest battle of all.

28. In my efforts to guide young men toward liberation from feminist thinking, I am constantly struck by the reality that they have been raised by whores for mothers and fathers who care nothing for them (those bad boys the mothers lusted after). These men are stunted because they cannot see that their own mothers are immoral women and the homes of these women are dens of death. That loyalty is their greatest weakness.

29. You don’t even need to get out of genesis to understand the nature of women.
    That is why feminists hate hate hate the Adam and Eve story.

    1. Indeed. Women dont want to hear, how they fucked up big time. Since Adam and Eve, to David and Bathsheba, to Ulysses being tied to the ship, for not being eaten by the mermaids, since Zeppelins “Since i’ ve been loving you”, that we have cautionary tales about the dangers of falling for a women with a dangerous nature. We have been warned…

    2. You got that right.
       Eve was perfect, and had everything going for her. She had the whole garden to herself, and could eat from a thousand and one fruits. BUT it was the ONLY fruit she was asked not to eat that she ate.

30. “For when she left Egypt, she did not leave her spirit of prostitution behind. She was still as lewd as in her youth, when the Egyptians slept with her, fondled her breasts, and used her as a prostitute.”
    In other words, you cannot turn a hoe into a housewife, no matter how much you try.

    1. Yes you can. Mary magdalene is a good example in the New Testament. The NT supercedes the old. In other words, people change through Jesus.

       1. That is Jesus changing people; not a mere human being.

          1. Jesus left over 2000 years ago, so that means no one has changed since?… additionally, he gave his disciples the same power to heal and change people; mere human beings.

       2. “Yes you can. Mary magdalene is a good example in the New Testament.”
          Wrong. Nowhere does it state in the Gospels that Mary Magdalene was a whore. Some stupid pope made that one up.
          As the OP said, you can’t turn a hoe into a housewife.

          1. She was known as a sinful woman, however that may be interpreted, but what is for sure is that seven demons came out of her and who knows that caused her to do.
             Sorry but the impossible to you is possible with Jesus. She wouldnt be a whore, she would be a renewed person. But of course, humans have a standard where that is not good enough. Anyways Im not going to get into other things because very few people here care to change themselves for God, yet they want to find women who do. Its called unequally yoked.

          2. “Sorry but the impossible to you is possible with Jesus. She wouldnt be a whore, she would be a renewed person.”
             She may be saved, but she would still not make a good wife. I’ve seen many so-called “saved” sluts and they ruin their men’s lives — whether they were truly saved is arguable but even if their sins were forgiven, they bring baggage with them. You may not want to accept this (particularly if you yourself have such a past) but it is what one sees in churches. Jesus didn’t call men to marry sluts — even saved ones.

          3. True, men dont have to marry them. These women should know the consequences. Jesus forgives but others dont. Others dont have to accept the renewed you. I dont have such a past

          4. It’s not simply that others don’t forgive: sin leaves its mark. Yes, Jesus delivers us from the penalty of sin in the afterlife. …But there remain consequences of sin in this life — for instance, if one is a thief and then comes to faith in Christ, one is saved from Hell, but it does not mean one is free from the penalty for one’s thefts in this life — nor that God even wishes us to be. Though God wishes to save us from Hell, God is also concerned with justice on earth.
             When one considers what the Bible teaches about sex, examining New Testament teaching in light of Old (since that is the correct context for the teachings of Jesus), it becomes clear that God sees sex very differently from the way men and women do these days.
             Biblical teaching on sex can be pretty much summarised thus: the first man with whom a woman has sex effectively becomes her owner — she is his and he cannot just dump her and go and have sex with someone else (a man was required to pay the father a “bride price” in Biblical times). Similarly, she cannot have sex with anyone else but him. She belongs to him, and he cannot get rid of her, unless she has sex with another guy. (In Matthew, Jesus permits a man to divorce a woman only for “sexual immorality” — i.e. if she turns out not to be a virgin on her wedding night, or if she commits adultery during the marriage itself. A man cannot divorce his wife simply because he’s bored of her and wants something younger or whatever.)
             God never intended sex to take place outside the context of lifelong commitment. And so if a woman has sex with a man, she must stay with him. If she separates from him, then she cannot just get a new boyfriend — she must stay chaste or return to the guy and patch things up. The churches have watered all of this down horribly, with the result that the churches now look just like the world. (Unbiblical nonsense like declaring a slut who accepts Jesus to be a “born-again virgin” is just the sort of thing which gives completely the wrong message to other women who are tempted with or considering sexual sin. Sadly so many in leadership in the churches go along with this garbage rather than rejecting it from Scripture — they really ought to know better.)
             Finally, I’m glad to hear that you remained chaste — it was nice to read that. Would to God that more women were like you…

          5. Agree with what you said. You still have will be penalized here for what you did despite changing from old ways.
             From a spirutually pure standpoint, everyone these days are drowning in sexual immorality, not just women. And yes, being a virgin before God is highly respected.

31. Yep. Never found an article I agree more with.

32. “God also hates the man who sleeps with whores.”

33. Treating women according to their nature is practically the rule in these very ancient texts. Another example, from the Egyptian ‘Maxims of Ptahhotep’ (approx. 2300 BC):
    “When You prosper, found your house,
    love your wife with ardor,
    fill her belly, clothe her back,
    ointment is a remedy for her body.
    Gladden her heart as long as You live.
    She is a fertile field, useful to her master.
    Do not contend with her in a court of justice,
    (and) keep her from power, restrain her.
    Her eye is her storm when she gazes.
    You will make her stay in your house.
    If You push her back, see the tears !
    Her vagina is one of her forms of action.
    What she enforces, is that a canal be made for her.”
    source: http://www.maat.sofiatopia.org/ptahhotep.htm

34. NFL boycott is succeeding! Ratings have plummited.

35. Anybody else find it amusing that the west has uterly abandoned the bible, yet will in the not too distant future be embracing the quran?

    1. So the Middle East knows best?

36. Roosh, I have some writings from ancient Sumeria you may find interesting, they are among the earliest writings and proverbs known to man, and many share the wisdom of the Old Testament.

37. I’m not sure whether it was mentioned by other commentators but in my opinion only a minority of women are true sluts. Just like only a minority of men are true players. The rest imitate sluts and players, because they think it’s the only way to succeed in male-female relationships.
    An average girl is enticed by the current culture to behave like a slut, and she does it because she fears rejection. How many of you would simply reject a woman who doesn’t want to have sex before marriage? Therefore, only in a deeply religious communities women feel free not to behave like sluts. In these communities being seen as a player is a major disadvantage, and it might relegate you to a single life forever.

38. tits or gtfo

39. It’s all over for feminists, they are finished.
    I see so many young women trying to look pretty, being nice to men, accepting their natural, God given roles.
    While the world ahead looks bleak, people are shunning the left wing insanity.

    1. “It’s all over for feminists, they are finished.”
       Hope you’re right. Torah tells us how to deal with these vile creatures (see verse 20 onwards).

       1. Well, it’s Torah, so cant argue.
          I just see that feminism is over. Look at EU for eg: Women (feminists) being raped left and right. Although this saddens me and it is sick what is happening in EU.. The EU left feminists asked for it

          1. Yes. We’re a society which is paying the price for turning away from our Creator. Dark days are ahead…

          2. We have totally turned away from the creator and now women burn in their loins for each other and so do many men.
             God is grieved.

40. Even if a female isn’t that “promiscuous”, what’s the difference between that female dating and having sex with a guy of whom paid for dinners and had a certain status she was after versus a prostitute that accepted money in exchange for sex? NONE. There is no difference in the technical sense. Women give sex away to men to gain access to anything of perceived value (friends, money, popularity, etc.). It’s all prostitution.
    This is WHY marriage is a covenant between man-woman and GOD. And that is why it was the Christian/Judeo perspective to save sex until AFTER marriage with the assumption that both the man and woman were virgins. At that point, sex after marriage was considered sacred and contained within God’s covenant, so therefore, since God is perfect and His grace is perfect, then the sex between the man and woman is not prostitution.
    Today, females that have sex outside of marriage are whores. Period.

    1. “And that is why it was the Christian/Judeo perspective to save sex until AFTER marriage with the assumption that both the man and woman were virgins.”
       Male virginity was not necessary, since men of God (e.g. David) often had more than one wife. …But men were not meant to fornicate (i.e. to have uncommitted sex with women). Female virginity was, however, expected. In fact, God demanded death for women who “played the whore” before marriage — read Deuteronomy 22.
       Were the moral laws which God gave to Israel applied today, there would be a mass slaughter of the vast majority of women and probably most of the men, too. We’ve sunk that low…

41. A promiscuous man has no right to complain about a promiscuous woman
    الْخَبِيثَاتُ لِلْخَبِيثِينَ وَالْخَبِيثُونَ لِلْخَبِيثَاتِ ۖ وَالطَّيِّبَاتُ لِلطَّيِّبِينَ وَالطَّيِّبُونَ لِلطَّيِّبَاتِ ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ مُبَرَّءُونَ مِمَّا يَقُولُونَ ۖ لَهُمْ مَغْفِرَةٌ وَرِزْقٌ كَرِيمٌ
    Asad : [In the nature of things,] corrupt women are for corrupt men, and corrupt men, for corrupt women – just as good women are for good men, and good men, for good women. [Since God is aware that] these are innocent of all that evil tongues may impute to them, 31 forgiveness of sins shall be theirs, and a mr`~t excellent cilstenance! 32
    Malik : Unclean women are for unclean men, and unclean men are for unclean women; and pure women are for pure men, and pure men are for pure women. They are free from the slanderer’s accusations; for them there shall be forgiveness and honorable provision from Allah.
    Pickthall : Vile women are for vile men, and vile men for vile women. Good women are for good men, and good men for good women; such are innocent of that which people say: For them is pardon and a bountiful provision.
    Yusuf Ali : Women impure are for men impure and men impure are for women impure; and women of purity are for men of purity and men of purity are for women of purity: these are not affected by what people say: for them there is forgiveness and a provision honorable. 2978 2979

42. I hope you know that Oola and Ooliba aren’t real persons. With that said, the prophets of Israel talks about “whore” because this hypocritical righteous don’t like to see their people in other temples, where Ishtar was worshiped. In other words, it is just insecure men obsessed with sex exactly because they got none.

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