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The Final Presidential Debate Showcased The True Corruption Of Hillary Clinton

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The final Presidential debate for 2016, held at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas last night, yielded few surprises. For a start, both candidates, Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton, dislike each other just as much as, if not more than before. They did not shake hands either at the beginning or end of the debate. On most issues, too, they have very non-complementary or outright opposing views.

What the third debate represented, really, is a distillation of both candidates’ stances as revealed throughout the campaign. Aside from Trump’s stinging assault on the orchestrated Democratic Party violence to disrupt one of his rallies (injuring police officers) and discussion of other new Wikileaks revelations, the to-ing and fro-ing was reminiscent of the first two debates in New York and St. Louis. Hillary Clinton clung to the tired old line that the Republican nominee is a Russian stooge and Donald Trump recommitted himself to draining the swamp of corruption and self-interest in Washington D.C.

Here are some of the key themes from yesterday evening’s proceedings:

Hillary is still trying to cover her receipt of “dark, unaccountable money” with ridiculous platitudes

Caption unnecessary.

At the beginning of the debate, in response to a question about the Supreme Court, Hillary Clinton waxed lyrical (again) about her supposed desire to rid American politics of “dark, unaccountable money.” But with the Clinton Foundation having its meetings at places like Goldman Sachs’ headquarters and Clinton underlings explicitly talking about the need to make billionaire George Soros “happy,” action on this front is sorely missing from her campaign. Even this week, it was revealed that Goldman Sachs’ chief spin doctor, Richard L. “Jake” Siewert, had defended the Clinton Foundation in 2015. Politico used a quote from him, which was then strangely presented as an anonymous source. Consequently, and we are just scraping the surface, the “dark, unaccountable money” vibe is coming solely and squarely from the Clinton campaign.

Every major US corporation that has taken a side during the Presidential race so far has taken Hillary Clinton’s. Interest groups ranging from hedge fund operators to journalists have also overwhelmingly supported Clinton in financial terms. Whilst in some respects this was a point that Trump could have hammered home better, the all-round stink of the Clinton campaign when it comes to the support of elites cannot be disputed. Between now and election day, this is something both Trump himself and his supporters need to emphasize continually. It worked for the British people and Brexit, and it can work for the American people and Trump.

Trump owned Hillary on the Second Amendment

Hillary’s pretend guns position.

Well, let me just tell you before we go any further, in Chicago, which has the toughest gun laws in the United States, probably you could say by far, they have more gun violence than any other city. So we have the toughest laws and you have tremendous gun violence.

— Donald Trump

Hillary Clinton was in the frankly unenviable position of “defending” the Second Amendment and simultaneously calling for the kind of gun restrictions unheard of in most of America. After she clumsily tried to explain that her 18-year stint in Arkansas and time as New York Senator make her an ardent supporter of the right to bear arms, Trump floored her with the truth about Chicago. Some of the most restrictive anti-firearms legislation in the country has utterly failed to save America’s third-largest city from the terror of unprecedented gun violence. Washington D.C. is another case in point, a capital city so unsafe that virtually half of it is a no-go zone for those interested in their own personal safety.

Again, Trump could have made the retort more biting, reminding Clinton that this was her hometown and a political stronghold of Democrats over many decades. Still, the implications of his remarks became clear immediately: Clinton looked visibly annoyed and cornered. Trump’s willingness to focus on the systemic and historical failures of Democrats in inner-city areas in particular is one that needs to be replicated by his most well-known supporters, including Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani, between now and election day. So much of what Clinton is calling for, and not just on gun control, has already been beta-tested in major American cities with abysmal results.

Interestingly, Clinton brought up the NRA as if it were some shadowy, malevolent organization, when, in fact, it is much more transparent in its dealings and endorsements than the corporations and other interest groups, usually just fronts for billionaires and multinationals, supporting Hillary.

Hillary is aiming to give citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants (future Democratic voters)

Whether in Europe or the US, letting in so many people and allowing them to stay is in service of the same outcome – liberal voting majorities.

Debate moderator Chris Wallace from Fox News indicated in his immigration question to the candidates that Hillary Clinton had “offered no specific plan” for securing the US southern border. Following Trump’s reiteration of the necessity of making the border an actual border, not a free-for-all transit zone, Clinton waffled repeatedly. She talked about poor “Carla,” whose parents are illegals and might be deported under Trump (yes, she was born in the United States, so she benefited from the preposterously read constitutional interpretation of birthright citizenship). These human interest diversions are simply a vehicle for liberals to avoid actually addressing the messes they have created.

The only thing Clinton seemingly promised to do was to remove the most criminally-minded aliens. Considering that the Democrats cannot remove most criminals from the streets of Chicago, which they have otherwise controlled for forever and a day, one should seriously doubt any Clinton Administration’s ability to root out undocumented felons from south of the border. What we can definitely say is that an elected Hillary Clinton will follow through with President Obama’s attempts at using executive orders to stop deportations of illegal immigrants.

Media outlets, embarrassed by Wikileaks revelations of pro-Clinton collusion, are pathetically rounding on Trump to cover their asses

Post-debate, the mainstream media blew out of all proportion comments by Donald Trump that he would decide later whether to respect any November 8 election outcome. And why shouldn’t he wait? To put it bluntly, Trump would be a fool to promise that he will honor the “result” in November. Wikileaks revelations about rigged Democratic primaries, recent videos from Project Veritas about the DNC’s engineering of widespread violence and voter fraud [1] [2], and extensive proof of journalists outright colluding with the Clinton campaign are all emblematic of a political and media establishment breaking countless laws and moral rules to keep Trump from the White House.

As the powers that be rage to stop The Donald, we have 19 days left to help get him into the Oval Office.

Read More: Donald Trump Indisputably Destroys Hillary Clinton In The Second Presidential Debate

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  2. I didn’t listen to the debates but one thing that she promised that showed her utter lack of intelligence was her promise that no college students whose family makes less than $250K per year would have to pay for college.
    According to this site below, less than 3% of the US population makes more than $250K.
    http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/how-many-people-make-more-than-250000-per-year/
    How in the bloody hell does she expect to keep a promise like that without bankrupting the system further? In short, she can’t. This would hasten and exacerbate the already over-inflated college bubble.

  3. I watched the entire debate, and I must say that Trump was the winner, no doubts about that. He owned that bitch. If he loses the election is because of fraud, plain and simple.
    The real question is: what are YOU going to do if they steal the election?

    1. I still believe it is highly probable for him to lose the popular vote fair and square . There are way too many people too busy feeling alienated or insulted to vote for him, not to mention the 40% of so that always vote democrat regardless. In fact, my household is the only one among everyone I know who’s voting Trumpish.
      So – to answer your question, if Trump loses I will have a hard time believing its fraud, and thus you will not find me roving about with torch and/or pitchfork.

    2. That’s why they murdered Scalia. Wikileaks uncovered an email from Podesta 4 days before Scalia’s death in which they discussed killing him.
      They killed him because they want to steal the election, and they don’t want another Bush v. Gore in 2000 situation, where Scalia was the deciding vote to deny Gore his “recount” to steal the election from Bush.
      If Trump is cheated and he challenges in court, the Supreme Court will not rule in his favor with Scalia gone. That was the whole reason why they had him killed. As soon as it looked like Trump was going to win Republican nomination, that’s when they decided Scalia had to go.

      1. Scalia didn’t do anyone any favors by being morbidly obese and traveling to a cult meeting at a democrat-run compound in the midst of the “no-go zone” in Texas, which is where he kicked the bucket.

  4. No, Trump should NOT concede defeat if Hillary happens to win. This isn’t a game: the fate of the West hangs in the balance.
    Where do people get this retarded notion that this election is like a game? Pip pip jolly good show wot wot. Shake hands. Perhaps a spot of tea with the victor.
    I guess the same retards who whine about enemies not fighting fair. Moving troops under the cover of the Red Cross? What? That’s not fair! That’s not abiding by the “rules” of war. Did America observe the rules of war during the Revolutionary War when colonists were sniping at Redcoats from behind trees and walls? Don’t think so.
    People have some stupid ideas in their heads. When two animals are locked in mortal combat, they do whatever is necessary to win: gouge the eyes, bite, etc. There are no rules.
    Hillary’s campaign seems to understand that with inciting violence at Trump rallies, confabulating accounts of octopus-Trump, and concocting sob stories of families torn asunder by immigration police.

    1. Trump might be a good vehicle for a political realignment, but I’m not sure he can/should/would lead an actual physical revolution. At a minimum, Hillary needs to win and run/ruin the country a few years before resistance becomes viable.

        4. Are you serious ? It is now legal for the government to dissappear you, you know that right ?

        7. No one is free from criminality, and we have access to the same means and methods which were brought against him.

        9. ” we have access to the same means and methods which were brought against him”.
          Yes obviously, Roosh was a criminal who was treated fairly.
          Or wait. You make a funny! Hugo likey funnies. HAHAHAHA.

        11. Criminality was used UPON him! But its legal criminality which we’re all fee to use.
          Or maybe I’m kidding myself…

    2. I think a lot of people are in the mindset that there are no higher principles outside those shown on TV. They take the “common reality” presented on television as the true consensus reality.
      When they are faced with the idea that people will actually fight for ideals unrelated to this consensus reality it is a complete shock to them. But the people fighting the opposition have conviction, while many liberals do not. How many liberals would stake their own well-being for their beliefs?
      If the election turns out to be rigged, Americans would have every right to ignore their government. To cowardly liberals though this breakdown of the status-quo is, as in Hillary’s words, “Horrifying”.
      What gives me hope is that some liberals that I’ve debated with through this whole election are showing some open-mindedness about the rigged election issue and WikiLeaks exposure. Hopefully the integrity of the democratic process is meaningful enough to some liberals that they take a look down the rabbit hole.

  5. Haven’t had time to watch the debate yet, but the price of gold went up a bit after the debate, so that probably means Trump did good.

        2. gold is just orgasmic isn’t it. I should get some and carry it in a pouch around my neck so it would be close to my heart
          Incidentally why do you think I love (((gold))) so much?

        4. I deny having any jew gold around my neck.
          To be honest I wasn’t aware I was jewish, but heh, maybe someone will give me a high-powered job if word gets round

        5. I can pass for a Jew and I use it to my advantage. A Jewy sounding name plus curly Jew hair gives me plausible Goy-deniability.
          But then when I need to pass for a Cubano on applications, out comes the pomade and sheen.

  6. How about this Hillary? If illegals residing in this country don’t have to abide by the rules and laws governing entering this country, staying in this country, paying taxes, voting etc, I don’t have to pay back any of my outstanding loans. Deportation makes families a sad panda and paying back my usurious loans to the Shylock Uncle Sam makes Waldemar a sad panda.

  7. I guess with Hillary it’s pick and choose which laws get enforced: laws a la carte. Got high capacity clips. Jail. In this country illegally, no problem.

    1. What’s a high capacity clip?
      You mean magazine? Heh. Yes, I’m that pedantic.

      1. from the guy who said “She texted me and the kids pictures” a few posts above. smh

        2. “she texted the kids and I” if you are going to be pedantic you get held to a higher standard.

        3. Oh come now. I’m an Ohioan. We don’t not speak goodish English. You knows that.

    2. How can any illegals pay income tax? You get a TIN if you are here illegally?

      1. I suppose they could break into the IRS offices and just leave some money on someone’s desk

      2. Withholding on standard wages still happens by employers who wish to remain compliant with tax law. Tax law is vigorously enforced with steep penalties, while employment law is lax with light penalties or completely unenforced. Illegals simply do not file tax returns, but wage taxes are paid to the government by the employers. This is the scenario I am most familiar with, anyway.

    3. hahaha, “half of them have never raped a dozen women to death”

        1. Gabbing with pussies is fun. You say something witty, then you use your fingers to make the pussy lips move back and forth as you answer for it in a high pitched voice. Hours of fun.

        10. I always like to let a reasonable amount of time pass for people to realize what I’m poking fun at. Heh.

  10. Hillary’s plan: empty Syria, bring ’em all here, empty Syria gets annexed into Greater Israel. More room for settlements.

  11. Trump definitely won the debate, but whether he won the general public is less clear.
    Her accusing Russia of compromising the US democratic system is a pretty serious thing to say, especially since she was on the fly avoiding answering anything about her WikiLeaks exposure directly.
    In contrast, Trump reaches out to make friends. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25a744adfa2cd7b45d74f4ddb192eb24634eff838e82a945f53faffbe3a06bc3.png
    I would argue the same thing about Trump’s visit to Mexico. Hillary said that Trump didn’t have the guts to bring up the wall during his visit but I think that it would have been unwise to bring it up then at all. Trump is not yet the president and so he has no business going to Mexico and telling them to their face what to do. But going there during the campaign to start building a relationship, and actually show everyone that he is a man of action is a strong thing to do.
    Trump is a businessman, and what is more fundamental to business than building relationships and networking?
    And let’s be honest… Would Putin rather deal with 4 years of listening to Hillary’s asinine globalist bullshit, or would he rather hang out and discuss world politics with the Donald?

    1. The crowds here in Delaware Ohio for him are stunning. Thousands.

    2. I don’t have doubts he won the general public, to be honest. I have doubts whether he won who we are made to believe are the general public.

  12. Funny how back in ’68 Hillary and her ilk her hanging NVA flags and sickle and hammer flags on statues at the Democratic National Convention and chanting Ho Ho Ho chi Minh. But now that Russia is a nationalist country, the Democrats want to get tough.

    1. Hillary: “We have a serious humanitarian crisis in Leppo”
      Did the rubble burn down?

  14. People often mistakenly believe the first Neolithic villages and cities were in Anatolia or near the Indus River. False. Civilization began in Leppo. Modern civilization owes a great deal to that great city.

  15. Got a joke for you all:
    Q. Why doesn’t Israel invade Syria?
    A: They don’t want to schlepp-o all the way to Leppo

      2. Q: Did you hear about the new Middle Eastern themed board game from Milton Bradley?
        A: Hungry Hungry Leppos

  16. When asked if he was a puppet of the Kremlin, Trump, in typical bombastic style, replied “Nyet”

  17. My wife is at the Trump rally up the street from me in Delaware Ohio. Thousands are there she says, and the local radio confirmed it. Took her an hour just to reach the security checkpoint due to the long lines. She’s sending me photos as it happens (right now even). Thousands.
    She texted me and the kids pictures, and my son (soon to be 20) texts back, quote “MAGA! 2016!” Say what you will about the older Millenials, but the < 25 males seem to be taking a hard turn to the right.
    Great line from Trump:
    “I will totally accept the results of this great and historic Presidential election…if I win!”
    Here’s how you know he’s winning Ohio. Famous OSU players are speaking for Trump at the rally. We also have Urban Meyer on our side. In Ohio, this is YUUUUUGGGE, as OSU football is basically a religion here.

        1. Edited. I think it’s okay now. It’s just video of him making that ‘if I win’ remark.

        2. That’s just fucking flipping off the establishment with a bad boy smirk isn’t it? Heh. They so much wanted him to give up a right to legal recourse if they rig the election. In reality he gave the only reasonable answer one could give. They are of course going insane today in the news about it. Fuck them.

        3. I have recently described this election as a “Referendum on the Ruling Class” (patent pending).

        4. I’m so hoping that the Establishment goes down in flames.

  18. Someone needs to put together a video clip of the Middle Eastern horde set to Neil Diamond’s “They’re coming to America”

    2. uhm someone needs to put a video montage of everything in the world to they’re coming to america

  19. What I learned from Hillary.
    She wants our electrical grid hooked into other nations, such that if Mexico City goes down, we have basically to take the hit too. Great.
    She’s “worked for women and children” without actually giving an example of her “work” taking effect in real life.
    She has a smile that the Mouth of Sauron envies.
    She supports the 2nd Amendment and demonstrates this support by demanding gun control.
    Women…and children…
    And children. Plus women….and children. Childish women…womanly children…and children.
    She openly declared that she wants Due Process eliminated and wants to take away rights based on names on a secret list who receive no day in court or legal recourse.
    and women. children
    womenchildren

    1. She doesn’t even pretend to give a shit about males. At least Trump says nobody has more respect for women than he does … I don’t think males even exist in Hillary’s reality

      2. Why does this even get mentioned? Trump does not mention men or women, because he does not discriminate. To him, it’s simply America (okay, I may sound a bit naive with that phrasing, but anyhow). To Killary, it’s always women. It’s so obvious that she is playing on the fostered victim-mentality in women and acting as their savior. I am not a terrible awoke person but even I can see this clear as day. And I don’t get how any male/man would vote for her after those statements.

        1. Unless you’re a self loathing spineless sack of shit straight man. What am I saying, might as well call them gay too. They may not know they’re gay but they’re gay. Excuse me, I need to be more politically correct. They’re fags.

      4. Trump is actually more of a feminist than a traditionalist/supporter of patriarchy on that point.

    3. Funny, the women and children from those Middle Eastern countries look like military-aged men. Must be something in the water.

        3. Don’t give them ideas..they could all just claim that they FEEL like women, thus America would have no choice than to grant them status as women.

      2. It’s an unarmed invasion. They will have to rely on local mosques to supply them with weapons.

      4. It always happens to poor victims of clitorectomy – they turn into an adult male soldier once the clit is gone.

      1. I was always sad that they cut this guys scene out in the theatrical release. When Aragorn decapitates him it is just fantastic.

        3. yeah I could have gone with a lot less homoerotic bed jumping and smiles from hobbits and a lot more of this guy

        5. I didn’t even need to play this to know it was Gandalf raping day! it is fucking on. Ironically, Gandalf raping day is the only day we do not rape gadalf but nurse him back to health so we can rape him for the rest of the year…this went on until one hobbit raped Gandalf on Gandalf raping day killing Gandalf!
          Great clip

        7. I liked the movies. I was disappointed that some of the scenes, like the Mouth of Sauron, that were cut, and also some of the material cut from the books – in particular, The Scouring of the Shire, which for me always really drove home the the journey had forever changed them and they could never go home. But the movies generally nailed the look and feel of it, as well as the major plot points. And his take on the Nazgul was spot on – fucking terrifying.

        9. I wish Smaug would have gotten double the screen time in The Hobbit. They should have done a whole intro bit on the Serpents Of The North, the pillagings and mayhem of Smaug’s younger days and how Thror’s greed finally attracted him to Erebor, in the same vein of LOTR episode III where they did the intro bit on Smeagol becoming Gollum.

      1. Had to laugh when she was talking about refugees (migrants) from the Middle East, she immediately goes to the sob story about women and children when it was 80% men that flooded Europe. Same type of shit Merkel was doing to get them in in the first place.

    7. Makes me think we should have nominated someone who would not be losing by 7% right now…

      1. I really, really doubt the polling, especially given the now documented collusion between the campaign and the media.
        Bitch had a rally here nearby (in Ohio), and couldn’t draw 100 people. Trump had a rally here today and had thousands.
        Polls? Pshaw.

        2. That is the only reasoned argument I’ve heard so far from the optimists. Usually, there is a lot more profanity and accusations of being a secret Clinton supporter.
          The only hopeful fact is that some polls have Trump ahead. And these are not sham pollsters with crappy methodology: some of them have an A+ rating from FiveThirtyEight. Although the majority of polls give Clinton a big lead, there are still some very-credible pollsters that say Trump is ahead by 1 or 2 percentage points. IBD, LA Times and Rasmussen (credible pollsters) have Trump either tied or 1-2% ahead.
          I don’t like overly-optimistic thinking or propaganda. That shit made a war I support in principle (Iraq) into a mess that I in hindsight would not have supported on the basis of how stupid U.S. Strategy was (if we’re going to do something, lets do it right or not at all).
          Sometimes at RoK, we base things on what we want/know America needs vs what is likely to actually happen. I am guessing that Clinton will win (unfortunately), but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Trump wins by 1 or 2 points.
          I would take even a “cuckservative” President over Clinton. And stopping Clinton is more important than having a “true conservative” in the White House. None of the GOP candidates (except maybe Jeb) would have been as bad as Hillary Clinton. If the Dems had nominated Sanders, then I’d even take Jeb Bush over him.
          A Clinton presidency will be so bad for the nation, that I’d rather have no President than Clinton as president.

        3. If Clinton wins it will be a Pyrrhic victory at best for her, expect most of her term to be finished out by President Pedoface Kaine.

        5. I could see that. Especially since she isn’t as liberal as Sanders, but she had to swing to the left to get his supporters. When she gets into office, she will disappoint them. But she can do a lot of damage before that happens, as she will have a ready-made bureaucracy created by Obama to implement left-wing policies. And Kaine is still a liberal, and I’d still take a “cuckservative” over any liberal, if the choice was only between the two of them.

        7. It really does bother me the huge smear job Trump did on Cruz. Of the lot, he was the only four square constitutionalist on the floor and could have wiped the floor with Hillary in the debates and not even broke a sweat. But, we have Trump now so I figure voting for him is miles above voting for Hillary.

        8. Agreed, I am voting for Trump. But I think Cruz would be beating Hillary by about 5% right now. It is hindsight, I grant you. But I was one of the few voices at RoK raising questions about Trump’s General elect-ability last fall.
          In this case, I really hope I am proven wrong and Trump wins.

        9. Given the violence encouraged by the ‘never Trump’ crowd who wants to tell some random person on the phone you support him, or put up yard signs or bumper stickers.
          (OK, I sound like a wuss here.)

        10. Kaine is so weak that even Paul Ryan would smell blood in the water, and he’d most likely still be SotH (ugh) in the event of-heaven forfend-a Hillary victory…
          I could easily see Ryan/McConnell stymieing a VP app’t if Kaine succeeds Hil and then giving Kaine the boot to put their “golden boy” Lyin’ Ryan in.

        11. The “who is to the left of whom” relation between Bernie and Hillary is tricky, I find, as Bernie is oddly conservative on many issues while Hillary is as left as one can be.
          Open borders being a yuge example.

        12. Whoa now, don’t tell me you’re still benighted about the truth of Toxic Ted.
          The guy is a dyed-in-the-wool neocon, the very sort of “say one thing and do another” campaign conservative politician that he rails against.
          The only “defense” he has in that area is that that he announced a few of his liberal policies-namely his pro-China stance-while running for the Senate but TX voters didn’t care.

        13. Cruz can’t beat Hillary, it simply isn’t possible. He couldn’t even beat The Donald and he was far more above-board than Hillary would be, she’s ruthlessness incarnate.
          Cruz’s “say one thing and do another” political history would all come out and it would have destroyed him. He doesn’t have the affability, or anything else, to compensate for such a blow.
          In essence, you’ve already seen how Cruz vs Clinton would’ve gone down: McCain vs 0bama.

        15. I am not sure how conclusive it is, but I also suggest reading Youtube comments. When I scroll through them, I sometimes wonder: Who are those supporters of Hillary? Where are they? Do they even exist?

        16. Why ? It’s the vote that counts (maybe). Those animals will be throwing rocks at your car or spitting on your woman completely convinced of their righteousness. They’ll still scatter like piss in the wind if you show any willingness and ability to defend yourself though.

        17. That’s a solid point, the polls, indeed every speck of information we receive is edited and shaped to convey a message. We really are on the cusp of something else here though, an age in which reality itself is shaped. I don’t believe that after reading statistical analysis of Hilary’s actual performance vs. outpolls in states with electronic voting vs paper ballots anyone could believe that elections won’t be rigged by actually changing votes.

        23. Problem is one person could go cheer at a Trump rally and the other one sit at home and watch TV about what an ass Trump is, and those two people each get one vote.

    8. The pro-abortionist that supports children. The feminist that made $25 million + from Saudi royalty.
      I don’t know who is more disconnected from reality: Hillary, or her supporters?

      1. It’s funny how she speaks for the woman’s right to choose and how it is such an intimate decision for that woman to make – yeah and who’s talking about the baby’s intimate decision to be cut out of the womb?
        (Yeah, weird, I feel pro-life sentiments coming up in me)

        1. Feminists don’t consider a fetus, at any stage, a separate being. That’s why they scream, “it’s my body!”. Even three days before birth a fetus (baby) to them is the same thing as their pinky finger. So if they want to cut off their pinky finger, it’s their choice!

        2. It’s a weird topic. I don’t know what to think about it.
          On one hand, I think everyone ultimately has to make their own choices. I am sure killing your baby will hurt yourself through the fine wheels of Karma. What I do find problematic is when politicians basically say: Oh come on, it’s not a big deal. Then those mothers ignore their instincts and do shit that they regret for a long time.
          But then, what would be life if we weren’t allowed to totally fuck up every now and then.
          Dunno.

        4. I am not sure if it is a political issue for me or a personal one, but I do have to say I kinda feel strongly about it. At least a part of me does.

        7. On the other hand, if a woman is fucked up enough in the head to get an abortion, it’s probably best she not have children at all.

        9. I kinda think it’s not a political issue though. In a way, I feel it is my own responsibility to take responsibility for my kin. And that means taking responsibility for the possibility that my bitch could come up with such bullshit and make sure she doesn’t.

        10. That’d be a fitting punishment aside from execution. Sterilization. For those who consented to and paid someone to murder their genetic code.
          I personally don’t give a damn about people whom I share no relation to killing their babies. That’s less competitors for me and mine.

        11. Yeah, but for those who believe like me, God has to have turned his back on a nation that allows the murder of the absolutely most innocent of human beings. And me, the most I’m doing to stop it is posting here and talking it about it a little in real life.

        12. We should be talking about the right to control the part of our body that is our germ cells.
          If a woman stores her eggs when she is young so she can have a healthier baby later on and then someone steals those eggs without consent and merges them with sperm she did not make an informed choice to merge her eggs with then she should not be punished with financial obligations to support that child.

        13. A better solution is to ban late term Ines by keep early term legal. Many who are pro life still suck and are abusive.
          By disallowing late term only moms willing to risk death for their baby will procreate since docs can’t abort fetus to save her near end.

      2. Her supporters. Hillary isn’t disconnected from reality; she’s a liar and she knows it.

    9. Sad how the media ignores that her biggest patron is an ex-Nazi collaborator (Soros).
      .
      Also, that poor guy who made a video exposing some ugly truths about Islam, the guy she blamed for Benghazi, has LOST EVERYTHING. He is now homeless and penniless. She had him thrown in a hidden prison for over a year WITHOUT a trial.

      1. I’m still on the fence about the video maker.
        We know that the video story was a complete lie, and that the video maker has been raked over the coals because of that lie, but did his video ever even exist?
        Last I heard, the only evidence of the purported film’s existence is the trailer.

    11. She wants our electrical grid hooked into other nations, such that if
      Mexico City goes down, we have basically to take the hit too. Great.

      We’ve been practicing for that over the past few years (decades?) with California. Those idiots crow about how they’ve achieved utopia by shuttering their nuke plants but rely on the rest of us to keep their lights on.
      Apparently New York State, under Comrade Cuomo, is trying to do the same thing. That would be hilarious as the USN still has nuclear facilities in the state.
      Humorously I hear that California tried to set up wind power plants for itself in Wyoming but the “Cheney Staters” were having nothing to do with it.

    12. Lol. I always had to laugh hard when she brought up ‘women’ in almost every second sentence.
      What are you going to do regarding Supreme Court? Support women! Support LGBT! (Wtf?)
      What are you going to do regarding war immigrants? Get the women and children! Oh and that 4 year old boy in rubble broke my heart so bad!
      It’s comical. I just keep asking myself: Okay. I am a man. You basically say ‘We will do stuff for women’ all the time. So I ask myself: Why should I fucking vote for you, because you obviously don’t give a damn about me. Women Women Women. But she has the audacity to say she wants to be a president for ‘everyone’.

      1. We exist to die at their leisure, Tom. Bring back our girls, don’t worry about the boys, they were just slaughtered and turned into child soldiers. Lol.

    13. And yeah, that condescending smirk on her face … compare to Donald’s calm composure. Wtf what that about ‘temperament to be president’ again?

    14. Chicagoans got the right to concealed carry not that long ago. But concealed carry isn’t causing murders. I think Mexico is the example he should use. They have very tough gun laws. Do we want to be like them?

    15. “She has a smile that the Mouth of Sauron envies” -no wonder Bill had to outsource those bj’s

    17. Trumps great debate peformance doesn’t matter because of Gloria Alred (Jewish secularist) and Howard Stern (Jewish secularist).
      What I learned that jewish secularists set up Trump long ago. Howard Stern. Trump did well. Wiped the floor with her on foreign policy. But that still doesn’t erase the impact of the Stern tapes. I was in Donald Trump’s pageants. I have been in environments (Canadian parliament) where rape and sexual harassment exists, and yes I do think Ghomeshi like many liberal men in CBC & Canadian parliament was inappropriate with much younger female subordinates (no I don’t believe his ex girlfriends) . That being said, there is nothing Trump did in the Miss Universe pageant that was inappropriate. Also he picked women for the full package of being smart, good personality and decent person and drop dead gorgeous. The girls in his pageants are the opposite of catty, are rational, gorgeous, lovely women.
      Even as an Arab I have practicing jewish Israeli friends, many who support Trump. Israelis have to farm and fight so they don’t have the stupid religiophobia and PTSD of urban Askhenazi secular jews living in the west.

      1. Trump’s kids are either all married to or dating jews. I think people created a trap for him and then pushed him into the Republican party, knowing his weaknesses, so they can let their friend Hillary win and push their social justice agenda, like Soros. Hillary was very weak. Rubio would have eaten her candidacy for breakfast, for cruz it would be a dessert. They trapped Trump, put skeletons in his closet then manipulated him as a candidate.
        Gloria Alred pressured Trump to accept transgender girls at the pageant. Also Milo for example used the Orlando thing to push the church to accept homosexuality. Some pro Soros secular atheist jews set up a trap for Trump then ran him to destroy masculinity, discredit the red pill and destroy Christianity in America. I wish I had a different conclusion.. but Madonna offering blow jobs at Amy naked Schumer’s show. I smell a trap from mentally ill crazy people with lots of money paranoid about religion, guns, free speech. They are the first to attack the first and second amendment. Due to Mikey Weinstien, Christians are fired for saying God in the army.

  21. What is Hillary’s agenda? To provide healthcare and welfare to all children so they can grow up to produce yet another generation of dependents that need to be fed, changed, and burped? There’s no vision being offered except playing nursemaid to the devil’s brood of bastard children.

  22. Things written off as conspiracy theories for years–bussing in “protesters” to incite violence, massive voter fraud, CNN interviewing people they coached, etc.–have all come to light, yet this bitch is still getting support. That’s how brain dead a large portion of our populace has become. And some are still writing them off as conspiracy theories, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.
    A Trump victory would just be one step in the right direction. Getting back to where we need to be will require us to dig our feet in and continue pushing against the current. Either way this election goes, it is the beginning of a massive shift. Let’s hope it shifts in our direction.

      1. Yep. A lot of damage has been done over several decades. It will take a lot of work to undo and then rebuild.

    2. Actually, they’re just proving that AWALT.
      Married women had no trouble voting for a cuck like Romney. Presented with a man with a backbone who is sick of women’s shit as we are, and refuses to be intimidated by carousel-riders telling tales of assault that were obviously untrue or grossly distorted, they’re choosing the woman who wants to make sure their husbands never work in the formal economy again, in exchange for a lush welfare state just for the sisters and their bulls.
      Fuck that. Fuck women. Vote Trump.

  23. No matter who gets elected, the media has lost every shred of credibility it had left, due to its relentless, calculated attack on Donald Trump…so that’s a plus. A lot of people are waking up, whether they want to or not.

    1. aye, even if he loses I dont think people are going to silently allow “business as usual” any more.

      1. So true. Business as usual is over. I was talking to this former hard-core Democrat last night, who flipped off her Sheep Switch for good, due to the media’s assault on Trump. She’s voting for Trump, and breaking her liberal habit of the past 20 years…the media (aka the government) is digging its own grave. Piss on ’em.

        1. Let’s just hope the former Democrats do not become overzealous supporters of Trump, though, out of shock of having been lied to, which can lead one to want to be held by the hand by the one who finally told a bit of truth.

        2. It’s a puppet show, in the end. The outcome is prearranged. Sure is entertaining though…

      2. I think that in 8 years those who have a problem with Hillary will be such a vast minority’s and will only serve as bogeymen until they die off. The net is closing very quickly and there is nowhere to run.

    2. The media’s actions justify nationalization under Trump. There is no such think as a free and independent press.
      Either the media controls the government or the government controls the media.

      2. alternatively you could just break up the (six) current monopolies, and prevent massive media groups / corporations from literally owning the ‘third estate”.

    3. It’s funny, I’m starting to see a lot of people–the types who really trusted the media and political system–enter that disillusioned state many of us experienced when we first came across red pill knowledge. It is happening, if not slowly. I’m doing what I can to help those I know push through to the other side.

      1. It’s a good thing. I am hearing people say things more and more often, like, “Conspiracies are just business as usual.” And they get this shocked look on their faces, like a little kid who just woke up from a bad dream. The media and the government are imploding. You can only lie for so long…if you keep doing it, and do it exponentially, everybody sees the emperor’s new clothes, eventually.

        1. They got too comfortable. They thought they had us all lured into a trap. Plus they underestimated the power of the internet, which is why Hillary wants to regulate the ever living shit out of it. Brexit ruffled their feathers. A Trump presidency might send them over the cliff.

        2. oh please for the love of pete don’t let it be an emperors new clothes routine. If we have to see her naked I will pray for death

        3. Yup. Their own momentum will hurl them over the cliff…people just have to step back and watch. Momentum and gravity are a bitch.

        9. Agreed – I certainly believe the dems particularly failed to
          appreciate the ‘memory hole’ capabilities of the intermawebs!
          You cant get away with shit like you did 30 years ago.

        13. If you make it at home, salt the cucumbers and drain for a day. Then strain your yogurt by lining a strainer with a clean cotton shirt. Stuff is tasty

        15. I actually make a cheap version at home with garic, lemon, herbs and fage 0% it’s not as good as the real stuff but it fits my macros

        16. Oh vato youre 80% there so Im going to rattle on. Skin a cucumber, slice open lengthwise and then scoop all those seeds out. Dice it up and salt it, let it drain suspended in a strainer overnight. Add to what you usually do, some dill goes a long ways too.

        17. I will. That is exactly what I do with eggplant when I fry it up like a good eye-talian so I already know the procedure. I will make some this weekend.

    4. what is this credibility you speak of and when, precisely, did they have it?

      1. Touché. I was making allowances for blue-pillers and purple-pillers…don’t want to push them away by speaking the truth.

    5. The msm on this side of the Atlantic is just as bad. The narrative is Trump is totally evil. Listening to the radio today one commentator made the assertion that vote rigging in the US has the same chances as someone getting hit by lightening. They totally deny Project Veritas and the WikiLeaks emails.
      It is kind of funny to see the sjw’s going round in circles about Julian Assange releasing emails on Clinton. A year ago they were all “save Julian”. Wankers……

      1. We all die of ignorance. And most people are terminally ignorant. Let ’em croak – more space for us.

    6. Vegas taking bets on gary Johnson at 1 to 2500. Got to tell you, it might be worth a 10 dollar bet just incase neither the orange faux alpha wuss or the evil pants suit wearing liar get enough EC votes. Who knows, congress might make you rich

        3. IKEA is always a good call, for the liberal-minded. Like a misspelling of “idea”, it just fits.

    7. People have a short memory. The population “lost faith” in the media ten times over the last 50 years.

    1. She provided the solution to that issue in an adjacent segment of the debate. Abort them before they become toddlers.

  25. Speaking of the lying media, and its attack on Trump, I am reminded of the following massive media/government lie – On March 30, 2000, the “UK Independent” reported that “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past.” The “UK Independent” long ago pulled the page – which is shown below, captured in a screen shot – from its website. Which is hilariously ironic, given its name (Independent – heh, my ass)…
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46c31ad488ca9b572990d4a7a3ea161a69bba203abcd280337347f66f186ec02.jpg

  26. “Trump Owned Hillary on 2nd Amendment”
    Hillary literally said the senate should confirm (anti-gun) Obama nominee Merrick Garland, and then claimed that she “supports the 2nd amendment.” Garland, who was a federal judge at the time, voted against Heller in the 2008 DC v. Heller case.
    Hillary also said she thought the Supreme Court got the 2008 Heller decision wrong, but that she still supports the 2nd Amendment. What she didn’t mention was that the 4 dissenting justices in the Heller case LITERALLY said that the 2nd Amendment is NOT an individual right, and that the founding fathers “could not reasonably have thought citizens should have guns.”
    Trump did not call her out on any of this. He just let it slide. He did a fine job of outlining HIS vision for the Supreme Court, but did not call Hillary out on her obvious lies.

    1. “Trump did not call her out on any of this. He just let it slide.” Trump is not a politician nor is he particularly smart. He didn’t let her slide. It just wasn’t part of the talking points he memorized.

      1. That was an area where he looked really weak to me. Hilary’s words were silly and she was wide open to be torn apart. But Trump does not know that subject very well

        1. I watched a bunch of clips today. I think it is quite obvious that he is not a very smart man. It goes beyond not being prepared. He actually did seem well prepared, just dumb. I mean, I can give my lecture notes on Kant to a 13 year old girl and send her in to teach a class and if she doesn’t get asked any questions she will seem very smart. He isn’t likeable, decent, smart and has absolutely no gravitas. As far as I can tell the only good quality he has going for him is that he isn’t Hilary Clinton which, admittedly, is a pretty fucking good quality.

        2. He actually has a good real life presence. My wife noted that she was surprised at how poised and confident he was and how his posture was good. She’s used to the view we get from the wonderful “effect creating” media where he seems kind of slouchy and frumpy. He’s also way more “likeable” in real life than he is on the screen.

        3. I have met him at the REBNY dinners. The best I can say is that he wasn’t as unlikeable as the media portrays him. I am under no illusions. They work camera angles against him and probably shading as well. When I say I have met him I don’t mean we had drinks and chatted, but I’ve seen him and I’ve shook his hand and I have heard him speak to the real estate people and my personal take on him is that he is thoroughly unlikeable.

        4. more than that though…..he just strikes me as a vacant minded moron who would be getting fired from low paying jobs left and right if he didn’t get lucky in birth and timing.

        5. Kant flat out is not fair. He writing is just hard to deal with maybe some of that is due to translation issues and living a lifetime as an academic. The best part about reading Kant, is that it makes reading David Hume simple.
          I see Trump as smart enough but he has a limited outlook. He is very observant and self aware. I think he knows where he is weak and hires people who are best at filling those holes. Arrogant about his ability to make a decision but not about knowing it all. In general he seems to be very good with people
          Hillary on the other hand is smart as hell, but has the worst case of arrogance I have ever seen. Does not take advice or delegate. Does not respect or like most other people. She thinks she knows it all. For that reason is often ignorant despite her high IQ. Deals poorly with people.

        6. There is a reason I like Rubio and Cruz. Both are twice as bright as Trump. Rubio is simply hard not to like and Cruz is brilliant

        7. I’ve not seen any real proof of her having an exceptionally high IQ. Smart? Sure, she was a lawyer at one time, you don’t get to be one of those with a janitor’s intellectual capacity. But you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to be a lawyer either. She is conniving and cunning, but then, so are a lot of people.

        8. Actually Kant is really easy. The trick with him is that there is a way to read it. It can’t be read the way you read a novel. Once you understand what it is he is doing and his methodology his writing becomes very simple.
          I agree that Trump does have the ability to admit where he doesn’t know something and then look to someone on his team who specializes in it for cues and that is about as good a quality as you can get in an executive…business or otherwise. It often does bode a lot better than intelligence.
          My comment was that he was dumb and unlikeable. You know, Obama actually said something really interesting a few months back when Trump first looked like he was going to win the nomination. He said something to the effect that “trump can’t be president because being president is not a reality show.” I really thought about that. Then I realized, no, being president is exactly a reality show. It is just entertainment for politics fans and as such Trump would be best suited — at least with regard to the republics he ran against and the Dem ticket. That said, James Brolin or Mark Harman probably would do just as good a job or better.
          In the end my money is with Hillary winning and winning in a very big way. Then again, I am neither a gambler or particularly political so I could be totally fucking wrong. Find out soon enough. I find it hard to care about it more than as a passing distraction though.
          I will say this about trump: his reputation amongst his peers (NYC Real Estate Developers) is, and has been for decades, absolutely piss poor. These aren’t political beliefs and these aren’t people who are jealous as many, if not most of them actually have more money. This is based on a very small and tight knit community of very wealthy people in the same business. Absolutely no one can stand the guy. He is despised amongst his peers. If someone is despised amongst their peers universally, and he really is, then I can’t see him as being a likeable guy for anything other than being anti Hillary.

        9. Had Trump not showed up and turned this into reality television, we’d have Cruz utterly wiping the floor with the Witch. It wouldn’t even be a close contest come election time. Such a damned shame that it turned out like it did.

        11. Yeah, I know. It’s why I always make note that despite my being a Cruz (and Rand Paul) supporter, I’m still going to vote for Trump. Anything is better than that awful Witch.

        13. I still think Trump will win. Pull off the “Brexit victory”. If Hillary gets in, nobody will trust the media or the government. Hell, they might even start a new republic. Have to wait and see…

        15. On the subjects I know well, I could have tore that woman apart while being nice. Cruz would have have gutted her on every subject with out trying

        16. My only reservation in this regard is the sad reality that trump appeals to disenfranchised voters in a way that Cruz simply doesn’t. Yes, he would have far mor republican support but he wouldn’t be able to pull anyone across the isle. Brilliant debater though, and very quick minded.

      2. Actually Trump is very smart, and he is not the type to stick to “talking points.” That’s why I was surprised he didn’t call her out.
        I think you’ve got Trump confused with Hillary.

        1. I respectfully disagree. I think he is a very dumb and unlikeable man. That said, I’d rather see him win the show than Hillary who is actually wicked and evil.

  27. I like chicken, I like cheese, I like girls with scabby knees…la-la-la. (Breaking up the mood here.)

    1. Charva
      My Darling
      I love you more and more
      I swear it aint because your father owns the liquor store
      I love ya I love ya and I don’t know what in the world I’m gonna do about it
      oooooooo woooahhhh oooooooo bum bum bum
      I remember, remember the junior prom
      and I remember the time I broke your fathers arm
      and I remember, remember all the love we shared
      every place and every where
      OOOOHHHH Charva
      Charva
      The only love I had
      I hope you will forgive me dear
      For punching out your dad
      Charva, Charva
      I love you and I don’t know what in the world I’m gonna do about itttttt wooooahhhhh ooooohhh

      1. “A Goy Named Jew”
        (A musical parody by Bob Smith, based on the song, “A Boy Named Sue”, by Shel Silverstein, made popular by Johnny Cash.)
        Well my daddy left town when I was three
        And he didn’t leave much to ma and me
        Just some Tribal banking debts and IOU’s…
        Now I don’t blame him that he wasn’t a Yid
        But the meanest thing that he ever did
        Was before he left, he went and named me “Jew”
        Well, he musta thought it was quite a joke
        And it got a lot of laughs from the Jewish folk
        It seems I had to fight my whole life through…
        Some Jewess would laugh and I’d turn red
        Then some Shylock would laugh and I’d bust his head
        I tell ya – life ain’t easy, for a goy named “Jew”
        Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean
        The bankers made sure I stayed lean
        I’d roam from slum to slum to hide my shame…
        But I took me a vow to make it stop
        I’d search every filthy pawn shop
        And kill that man who gave me that awful name
        When I blew into Gaza, there was death in the air
        I’d just hit town, my wallet was bare
        The Tribal bankers ripped off every dime…
        At an old pawn shop at Hock & Main
        There at the window, pawning his cane
        Was the dirty, mangy dog that named me “Jew”
        Well, I knew that snake was my own sweet dad
        From a worn-out picture my mother’d had
        And I knew that scar on his cheek and his evil eye…
        He was broke and slumped and gray and old
        And I looked at him and my blood ran cold
        And I said: “My name is ‘Jew’! How do you do! – Now you’re gonna die!”
        Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
        And he went down, but to my surprise
        He jumped up with a grunt and kicked my nuts…
        But I busted a chair right across his teeth
        And we crashed through the wall and into the street
        Kickin’ and a’ gougin’ in the corpses, blood and guts
        I tell ya – I’ve fought tougher men
        But I really can’t remember when
        He kicked like a mule and he bit like a pedophile…
        I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss
        He went for his gun and I pulled mine first
        He stood there lookin’ at me and I saw him smile
        And he said: “Son, this world is awful rough
        And if a goy’s gonna make it, he’s gotta be tough
        And I knew I wouldn’t be there to help ya along…
        So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
        Knew you’d have to get parasitic or die
        And it’s the name that helped to make you strong.”
        He said: “Now you just fought one hell of a fight
        And I know you hate me, and you got the right
        To shoot me here on the Strip, and I wouldn’t blame you…
        But ya ought to thank me, before I die
        For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye
        Cause I’m the son-of-a-bitch that named you ‘Jew.’”
        I got all choked up and threw down my gun
        But the depleted uranium made us run
        And I came away, with a different point of view…
        And I think about him, now and then
        ‘specially when I lose, and the bankers win
        And if I ever have a son, I think I’m gonna name him…
        Usury’s Child…or Property of Parasites…or maybe He-Who-Bends-Over-for-Banksters…

        4. I posted it on another website about three years back, I think, using another alias…just wanted to put that out there, in case somebody Googled it.

        5. I posted it on another website about three years back, I think, using another alias…just wanted to put that out there, in case somebody Googled it. And by all means, get all Allan Sherman on me, neener-neener-neener, I dare ya…

        6. I had a great uncle who was all about corny humor and he used to play this song and tell me that Mexicans all dance on hats. I still laugh when I hear it.

        7. mind you I don’t think it is actually funny in and of itself, just the memories it brings back of being baby sat by some half bagged uncle with corny jokes and dumb music. Nostalgia goes a long way

        9. some of this old stuff it is hard for me to tell if it is nostalgia or funny. The idea that you actualy have to be worried if you are wearing a hat around Mexicans because they will dance on it is great.
          Also, I learned who Poncho Villa was thanks to the line:
          Oh the reason they shot Pancho Villa
          Was he danced on his mother’s mantilla.
          And the message did not reach Garcia.
          He was out somewhere dancing on hats.

        10. Funny how we pick up on certain things as children, eh.
          Unrelated, but…this song fucking rocks (head phones and max volume highly recommended)…

  28. WHy is it that I always think about George Soros when I look at Hillary Clinton?..Its like they have the same dynamics as Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader, in retrospect Darth Vader is actually a likable Tragic Villian whereas Hillary resembles the a more sinister archetype

    1. She’s a living caricature of a Bond Villain. Put a cat in her arms and she’ll start threatening to blow up the eastern sea board.

        1. What the fuck is she wearing there? Is she in Star Fleet or something?

        2. I am not saying that she is being trolled by an insider in her wardrobe department but if she is that person will take the crown from the Asiana airlines Wi Tu Lo guy.

        1. Julian Assange: “Do you expect me to talk?”
          Hillary: “No, Mr. Assange. I expect you to die!“

        2. That’s the first thing I said when she walked on stage last night. “Featuring the Dr. Evil fashion line….”

        1. “Crossfire”, Stevie Ray Vaughn…today’s rap “musicians” just don’t make ’em like this one…

        2. “Crossfire”, by Stevie Ray Vaughn…today’s rap “musicians” just don’t make ’em like this one…

        3. Damn good guitar player. I loathed everything about his politics, but man, that guy could wail on a six string.

  31. Gun control will be one of the first thing Hillary will implement if she is elected
    and the scary thing is she supports Australian type gun laws.

    1. I don’t know nothing about no Australian type gun laws, but I 100% believe that Hillary likes it down under.

      2. Basically you can only own a single shot .22 if you buy a permit. And they forcibly bought everyone guns. Confiscation in other words. Makes NYCs gun laws look lax

        2. That’s not going to work here. In fact, it’s a quick way to start a real life, scary shooting war.

        3. Try a law like that all at once and there will be blood. And they would lose. No the plan is to go slow and make guns expensive and a pain in the ass to own. Like it is in NYC. Everyone there is now used to the idea and few own guns

        4. I think three of Bills ex mistresses say that Hillary is a carpet muncher and that is why Bill plays. But then That could just be Bills excuse. The National Enquirer is saying she goes both ways and pays for it. Inquiring minds want to know

        5. HA! I don’t need outside evidence to know that she is a bull dyke. Like Justice Stewart said about pornography “i know it when I see it”

        7. I would beat the brakes off of huma. By the time I was done with her I would have her confessing she was a member of fucking isis

        8. Between her husband and Hilary I think she enjoys being treated bad. She would hold out just to get a bit more of that painful love

        11. Look up Port Arthur Massacre. There was a mass shooting where a left-handed simpleton who had only ever fired a slug gun suddenly learned to shoot like a special forces operative and helped Aussies realise they needed to get guns out of the hands of everyone but cops and crims using already-drafted legislation.

    2. If Congress stays GOP there’s no chance of her getting anything on that agenda passed.
      Given her toxic personality in real life, it’s doubtful she’ll get much cooperation from Congress on pretty much anything.

      1. Congress has been GOP, but Obama doesn’t seem to have any trouble getting everything he wants.
        I see no reason why they would suddenly change their ways and grow a backbone.

        1. He actually hasn’t gotten much of anything once they went GOP. Everything has been at a virtual standstill and when he tries his childish EO “Mah way or thuh highway!” stunts, the courts over-rule him. He’s been an amazingly ineffective “leader”, once 2010 hit.

        2. They couldn’t even get PP defunded, the debt ceiling has been suspended, the GOP leadership are scared shitless of another ‘shutdown’ even though they could easily control the narrative of that one.. I look at these and say between congress and Obama, Obama won.

        3. Not getting there agenda is not quite the same as him not getting his agenda. They put a stop to him for the most part. I do agree that they are chickenshit cowards because they won’t use the power of the purse to undercut that knucklehead in the WH.

  32. Yes, the idea that Trump would not commit to accepting a loss on election night is absolutely crazy. I mean, it’s not like Democrats admit to registering dead people and illegal immigrants to vote, and do so with barely restrained glee…
    Oh wait…

  33. Why am I not surprised about the silence from Hillary and the main stream media regarding donations from Saudi and Qatar to the Clinton Foundation? She didn’t even address the statement. in fact she didn’t address any of Trumps accusations about corruption, donations, Soros, etc. People must be blind, deaf and dumb to vote for this POS.

  34. R1 – hillary
    R2 – trump
    R3 – trump
    nevertheless, he still fucked. he has absolutely no chance on nov. 8.

        1. Tempting, but I’ll stick with the conservative approach. Take Va. Tech -4.5 tonight at home, versus U of M (Miami), for $200. Also, take the Dodgers at home tonight against the Cubs for $200 at +140 on the money line (meaning you bet $200 on the Dodgers to win, for the chance to win $280). A little insurance there. Very little chance that you lose both wagers. Very solid chance that you win both wagers. But let’s improve our chances for profit here even more, by taking the Chicago Bears +9 at Green Bay tonight, in Thursday Night Football, for $200. Three solid plays there with tons of insurance. Beats the hell out of betting on Wall Street. FYI, this weekend is going to be a bloodbath for the general betting public (meaning, it will be really good for guys who know the score). That’s the beauty of a week like this one. Even if I lose all three games, I’ll kill it on Saturday and Sunday. Sweet Jesus it’s good to be an American…

        2. at the beginning of the primaries they were giving trump at 1500-1 and apparently there is a lot of people very worried that they are going to be paying out some really big fucking wins

        3. The laws of wagering. Rule 1 – VAW (Vegas Always Wins). Rule 2 – VNW (Vegas Never Worries). They make so much money, a hit like that at 1500-1 won’t even make ’em flinch. It’s all about perception versus reality. Same with everything, really. If you can see beyond the veil of perception, you can profit by knowing the reality…

        4. I mean that makes perfect sense to me but a couple hundred people putting 500 or more dollars down on 1500-1 odds and winning. I am not saying that the numbers, when it is all said and done, won’t come out for vegas because I believe you….vegas always wins…..but somewhere, someone will be aggrieved no?
          Meanwhile, given that VAW…what do you say to them paying 5 to 1 for trump right now with that reversed for Dr. Evil?

        5. Let’s say a bunch of people put $500 down on Trump, you can bet that a lot of that money was Mob money. They do this at horse tracks, too. Let’s say a horse is going off at 30-1 odds. They don’t want to pay out that much money. So the Mob puts a bunch of money on the horse at 30-1 at the last minute, and the odds drop to 8-1 (or whatever). That, they can handle. Then the Mob just cashes in their tickets if the horse actually wins. If the horse loses, they get back their money anyway, because the money they wager is going right back into their own pockets, as they collect all proceeds. Pay off the winners, skim the juice, the overhead costs, and the extra money that isn’t reported. And they handle all the accounting, they claim $1 million was wagered on the event – but really it was $5 million. No accountability. It’s a beautiful scam…

        8. I appreciate how you explained the intricacies of such a scam so succinctly Uncle Bob.

      1. yes that is right. i cant imagine an outcome that has him winning on Nov 8. and that would make all of us fucked just as you said

      1. r1 trump basically lost it by himself. he interrupted constantly, he was immature, he was on defense the entire time.
        r2 he slaughtered her. the “bc you’d be in jail” line just might be what i put on my tombstone when it’s all said and done

  35. I watched this youtube stream of it by ABC News:

    During the stream, there were places where the video seemed to skip large parts, which I naively attributed to video errors, but I suspected that it was edited. The comments confirmed this. The edits are actually pretty obvious (not like those weird conspiracy reptilian proof videos with compression errors). A video compression error does not skip a big bunch of video. Also, the edits typically occur when Trump is speaking.
    So much for unbiased media.

  36. Also interesting is how she keeps bringing up ‘middle class’ and ‘wealthy’ all the time. Socialists are always the first to create an imaginary divide between ‘classes’, to then have them beat each other up over nothing.
    Yet the same person claims to want to ‘unify’ everyone and ‘were in it together’. As if.

  37. Trump’s mistake was to not to considerate the current demographics of the US. Had he been a little bit more subtle, his odds to win would be much higher. Trump has spitted many truths, but these truths haven completely been overridden by manners, so important in the country of identity politics. Let’s cross fingers for him.

  38. My lord, don’t let Trump win! We’ll have a successful businessman as president, and a gorgeous first lady! We want an ugly, bitter, vicious female to be president, along with an effeminate-looking, male V.P.! It’s more representative of the true demographics of the average American voter!

  39. Women and children are in the same category to democrats, as Hillary constantly fucking panders to them.
    Women are too stupid to realize this, however. Or they otherwise don’t care because they want daddy government to force men to provide for them anyways.

    1. What I realize is that democrats and feminists treat women like children. As if women are inferior to defend and stand for themselves. This is why they love laws the “protects” women from violence.

  41. Ultimately it comes down to the voters, and enough of them who vote for Trump to offset any voter fraud; otherwise we are screwed.

  43. Btw, why does Trump get called out so much on formalities?
    – He said some mean things.
    – He didn’t release his tax report.
    – He may not ‘honor’ the result.
    Come on, those are just words.

  44. Weather Trump wins or not, they will declare Hillary the winner the same way they declared her the winner on CNN after Trump clearly beat her ass at the 2nd debate. It doesn’t matter what they see and hear, the whole thing is analogous to an irrational woman who cant see reality, who ignores cause and effect.
    After all the pile on, Trump is correct. He shouldn’t accept the result until we have one. But accepting isn’t about him. It’s about people who are voting for him, people who are fed up. The elite are afraid of an armed insurrection in the U.S. But more likely, I think this will lead to the break up of the U.S, with the more conservative states seceding to form their own union.
    Make no mistake, they’re afraid of what the people will do if Trump loses. They know they’ve played a dirty game and they’re afraid that the shit is going to blow back in their face. They only have themselves to blame.

  45. George Bush will be the last Republican president.
    The Democrats have understood demographics better than the GOP has.

  47. I understand ROK would be obliged to support even a trained raccoon who spouted the same small-government/family-values rhetoric from the last election (and the one before that, and before that, etc.) but can you at least acknowledge that with expectations so low, all he had to do was show the slightest amount EITHER dignity or thoughtfulness and he would have won. He didn’t. At this point it might be wiser to consider whether he was indeed a paper tiger candidate effectively selected by Clinton.

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