Why Undercover Trump Supporters Are More Common Than You Think

He—and, in far rarer cases, she—stirs in a dark and sweaty room, like Martin Sheen at the beginning of “Apocalypse Now,” pondering the future of America. The setting sun creeps in through the curtains illuminating the sturdy fist that’s bracing his chin.

Thoughts rush through him at an incredible speed, rapidly deconstructing his personal politics, while shattering flimsy, false paradigms in his head like a sledgehammer through plexiglass. As he does this, the bottled-up, deeply suppressed reality of modern American politics starts flowing out with intense clarity.

On one hand, this deluge of enlightenment exhilarates the man; but on the other, he becomes fiercely frustrated that too many others around him, even closest family, are still in the dark. He eventually realizes, after attending dinner parties, reading the local left-leaning newspaper, and engaging in water-cooler conversation, that “too many” is, in fact, nearly everyone but him. Not only do his peers disagree, they accuse him of bigotry and ignorance for the sake of claiming the moral high ground.

"Toronto... shit; I'm still only in Toronto... every time I think I'm gonna wake up back in the jungle."

“Toronto… shit; I’m still only in Toronto… every time I think I’m gonna wake up back in the jungle.”

Reason and facts fail them. His calmness of tone rattles them. In the end, peers ostracize him by building up a straw man about him in their narrow minds. Thereafter, you consider restricting conversation with people to music, movies, sports, and apolitical current events just to keep the peace.

But you know if you continue down that dark and lonely path you will be suppressing your informed beliefs and turning red as your peers giggle and revel in lazy groupthink around you. At this point, you realize why you are sitting in this room—alone—to begin with.

Face The Enlightenment…

Meet the Closeted Trump Supporter, known herein as the “CTS.” I know: some subscribers to the manosphere will scoff at this type of constituent, and make the, albeit reasonable, claim that concealing your beliefs and convictions out of fear of criticism or exclusion is a noted unmanly trait. While true, the CTS—like myself—has justification for his silence.

It comes down to making a cost-benefit analysis. For example, when living in a hugely liberal big city like Toronto, New York or Chicago (as I do), the CTS has to decide if publicizing his political views benefits his own bigger picture. Unlike Peter Thiel, the CTS does not have the social and monetary capital (yet) to show his true cards while safely knowing his value will out-leverage the consequences.

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PayPal cofounder Peter Thiel came out of the closet as a Donald Trump supporter and donated 1.25 million to the man’s presidential campaign.

If the CTS is relatively young and trying to make inroads into his particular industry, or his job depends on collaboration or maintaining a tight, trusted relationship with a group of clients, the best bet for the CTS is to focus on the work and keep the politics out of it, even if his clients or coworkers choose not to. 

The CTS understands that most criticisms of Trump are not truly political, anyway. Hating Trump, largely, is just fashionable shop talk in social and professional circles, something that’s easy for a laugh while one kicks back and relishes that fifth glass of Merlot.

The Mainstream Media (MSM) has worked overtime this election cycle exaggerating and twisting the things Trump says. The MSM dominates one of America’s past times—the television—where it seeks to manufacture consent. Regular people, already crippled by their own social anxieties, mimic the MSM consensus in social settings to fit in with the group. A lot of hating Trump comes down to pure peer pressure. Simply, it has become socially acceptable.

Hand shielding eyes not out guilt, but out of frustration. Most people just don't get it.

The CTS shields his eyes not out of guilt, but weary frustration. The reality is most people just don’t get it.

Hating Trump Is Usually About Peer Pressure

Granted, kernels of truth can be found in many falsehoods. Occasionally, Trump says things that are admittedly boneheaded or rude—his “Two Corinthians” gaffe, “look at these hands” and “eating machine” comments—which draw attention to his thin-skin complex and uncouthness.

It is easy, then, to badmouth Trump because the man has been turned into a walking meme (some of it his doing). At the same time, this is the only part of Trump the MSM chooses to focus on because it has an extreme bias.

The CTS also understands the complexity of The Trump Phenomenon. He grasps the paradox within all this: Trump is clumsy and oafish with his words, he lacks a seasoned politician’s poise, and more than frequently abandons all semblance of tact. And yet, he represents the bedrock of Americana—free speech, sovereignty, and individualism—or everything the current Establishment, meaning the bought-and-paid-for Democrats and Republicans of D.C., hates.

Yes, Trump is a goon. But when you push past the tomfoolery that’s been over-emphasized by the media and pay attention to the beat of his drum, you realize Trump is the best-intentioned, if not the brightest politico in the room. Lacking a politician’s trained tongue, his policies tend to come off as unrealistic and formless. When his ability to articulate fails him, his words spin in circles and get reduced to rhetoric.

Trump may have nearly ate his microphone at the 2nd Presidential Debate, but he still came on top with his "you'd be in jail" rebuke.

Trump may have nearly ate his microphone during the 2nd 2016 Presidential Debate, but he still came out on top with his “you’d be in jail” rebuke.

While Trump’s instincts are sharp, he is not the best at communicating them. Instead, your usual Washington lapdog with the worst instincts (like a Hillary Clinton) is smoother and slicker at conveying his or her policy prescriptions and trending character attacks. See the paradox?

The CTS Gets The Great Paradox

Shakespeare called characters like Trump the “wise fool”—the court jester that unfailingly tells it like it is. The wise fool speaks in idiotic riddles that secretly hint at complex, important issues overlooked by the arrogant aristocrats.

Trump is that puckish character, blatantly explaining to American citizens that their stupid politicians are selling out their country to foreign interests and pulling “down thine own breeches” (if you will) with lousy trade deals.

The Fool In The Storm. Is there a better metaphor for the rise of Donald Trump?

The Fool In The Storm. Is there not a better metaphor for the rise of Donald Trump?

Since most people are followers with an one-track mind, the CTS cannot convey this complexity without the sheep responding with a dumbfounded furrowed brow. The CTS quickly discovers that the herd cannot comprehend the cognitive dissonance or, simply, do not want to hear it.

Instead, it rebuts with ad hominem attacks that distract from the deeper points the CTS is attempting to explore regarding Radical Islam, illegal immigration, and the globalist agenda. To the herd, you are just another “conspiracy theorist”.

When the CTS deems it necessary to speak his mind, he may relay his thoughts by asking a Socratic question. For example, a leftist coworker is raving at lunch about Trump’s “bad hombres” remark and declaring it another example of the Republican nominee’s racism.

While acknowledging Trump’s offhand choice of words (for a presidential debate), the CTS goes on to inquire how Trump bringing up the fact the United States has 11 million undocumented migrants and that the U.S. government should consider deportations or a pathway to legal status as a solution is racist. That person will likely respond with “he called them all rapists”, to which you affirm that Trump did not call them all rapists; he alluded to the fact that a disproportionate number of illegals are committing crimes, namely drug running, murder, and rape.

Like in a social justice debate, don't lock horns with your opponent over Trump. Just calmly dismiss them with logic.

Like in a social justice debate, don’t lock horns with your opponent when discussing Trump. Just calmly defeat them with logic.

Instead of locking horns, you casually allow the bullhead to realize the falsities in their arguments. It is non-confrontational and yet you stand up for yourself and the truth.

Some readers may dispute that an alpha male risks confrontation to defend his beliefs. The CTS understands that notion, but also understands that to pick a fight feeds the stubbornness of your opponent and their assumptions of you as a bigot. Russell Brand could have freaked out at MSNBC, but instead he politely pointed out their own stupidity and arrogance, which, in his own way, was asserting his position.

Living With It

Adapt or die, the CTS realizes. When moving away is not an immediate option, the CTS learns how to mix in with his liberal urban populace while managing to hold on to his political beliefs. He accepts his isolation and difference of viewpoints from his peers as the waking up of his individuality.

He ditches Facebook, that leftist bubble. He reads the news he trusts. He continues to be skeptical. He questions authority, when it ought to be questioned. He finally concludes that too many people obsess over asserting their “identity” nowadays at the expense of getting anything done. He doesn’t stress about that; he gets to work.

Today, in The Current Year of morally bankrupt spoiled brats and smartphone zombies, the Closeted Trump Supporter has never felt more alive. And there are plenty of us out there. We’re just waiting to get federalized.

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474 thoughts on “Why Undercover Trump Supporters Are More Common Than You Think”

  1. So Donald Trump gets thousands upon thousands of people at his rallies , and hillary maybe if she’s lucky gets one hundred people, but somehow she’s favored to win…don’t think so.

    1. Alex Jones claims that Hillary smells bad. That might have something to do with her lack of crowd appeal.

    2. That’s what I thought about Ron Paul when he was drawing huge crowds during his presidential campaigns but the polls were right in the end. It’s why I doubt this bit about the polls being wrong. We’ll see.

      1. What the media reports as “poll data” rarely matches up with my personal experience.
        I remember being at a Christmas party one year and everyone was talking about Ron Paul. Not just libertarian weirdos but Republicans and Democrats, it was like everyone I knew was voting for him. It was really weird. People don’t talk about politicians at Christmas parties.
        Fast forward to the election and he gets like 1% of the vote or something. I guess there are loads of boring people that just vote straight ticket D or R because they always have, but I don’t believe Paul really got as few votes as they say he did.

  2. “false paradigms in his head like a sledgehammer through plexiglass.”
    Why oh why did you choose such a terrible metaphor. Plexiglass is disappointingly resilient in comparison to normal glass. A sledgehammer might be just enough to break through, but hardly what I would call ‘with ease’. Which I imagine is what you aimed at.

  3. Serious question: Has American history EVER seen an election get this heated before? Not to my knowledge have we seen protestors violently trying to crash the rallies of their opposition. This shit has gone way off the deep end.

    1. The candidates’ conflict is kinda representative of the most basic human archetypes, isn’t it. Female vs male (oppressed girls vs oppressed men). Socialist vs. capitalist. Safety vs freedom. “Selflessness” vs identity.

    2. I wonder how much of that went on before and we just didn’t know about it. Because until I went to youtube and saw video of violent clashes last week, I didn’t think it was any different than prior elections, other than when Trump would bellow “Get em outta here” to the lone protester at his rallies.
      But then turning on youtube I really felt like we are on the brink of civil war. I saw some really scary stuff in clashes between the two groups. If the media isn’t covering it now, perhaps they never did, and it always existed. Or perhaps it really is something new. Who knows, although Trump is definitely tapping into some raw emotions that most politicians never touch.

    3. The ’68 Democratic convention was pretty scary.
      The direct hiring of agitators to perpetrate violence though, now openly shown to be Hillary’s doing, would have caused her immediate arrest in days past.

      1. While the second Veritas video was nothing more than what current HIllbots expected anyway (Scott Adams put it as “assume she’s no more corrupt than usual”, thus somewhat corrupt), the first one of the hired thugs, and the video before that of the voter registrations being ripped up, are fucking inexcusable. That’s not playing mindgames with people, that’s assault and battery, conspiracy to cause harm, and voter fraud/destruction

        1. She really needs to be dragged away in cuffs. That she hasn’t been as of yet is scary as fuck.

  4. This article is incredibly important, and makes a point I have been trying to get across for ages.
    Forget the bullshit the MSM is desperately, hysterically, trying to push down eveyone’s throat. Remember Brexit.
    At this point in the Brexit cycle the lying sociopath glove puppets in the Media had pretty much convinced all of us what their Masters wanted, that Brexit was impossible and that ‘common sense'(™) aka what the ‘elite'(™) want you to think had overwhelming support.
    Well they are pulling the same tricks again!
    The MSM and Social Media and workspaces and public opinion (SIC) in the UK is *so* feminised and *so* left-wing that *most* Brexit supporters were closet brexit supporters. Only those of us who give zero fucks, like me (215lbs solid, enjoys full-contact fighting, CEO, wealthy), spoke our minds plainly… the vast majority kept quiet and waited for voting day. Even I fell for the MSM bullshit and thought Brexit had zero chance, but hell I voted for it anyway…. and guess what? We woke up the next day in a changed world!
    So forget the lying hoaxing media, remember the CTS’s identified in this article, and for fuck’s sake GO AND VOTE TRUMP! (and get everyone else you know, EVERYONE, to do the same). Fuck ’em, fuck every single blue-haired land whale and limp-wristed skinny jeans wearing manlet. Let’s have a MAN in the Whitehouse!
    We’re counting on you…

  5. I just posted on the previous article a Kaine rally in Florida with 30 to 50 supporters, along with a tweet from Trump showing tens of thousands in Tampa. This afternoon he is holding another Florida rally and people starting showing up 12 hours in advance. I know VP candidates are not that exciting, but It’s hard to see stuff like this and think the race is really 50/50.
    Trump is such a wild card that it’s hard to make predictions, but I think there are a LOT of closet Trump supporters that aren’t going to make it known that they support him, but will quietly show up to vote for him. That is, unless the media gives the perception that he is a horrible person, and that Hillary has already won, in which case they may stay home.

    1. I agree. Except for family and a few friends, my political opinions are unknown to the people I converse with regularly in real life. The potential blowback is just too much. For crying out loud, we got incidents of cars with Trump bumper stickers getting keyed and Trump signs being stolen out of people’s yards. The hell?!

      1. Exactly!
        This side of the Atlantic we just had insane leftists ranting at us for expressing a pro-Brexit opinion and that was sufficient to massively distort *all* of the polls leading up to the vote. With the unchecked violence being allowed (encouraged?) against patriots^HTrump supporters who knows what distortions have been made in the polls!

      2. I also must say I really question how every election is so close to 50/50. That just reeks of bullshit to me. As if every 4 years things naturally settle down to a “fair fight” where the support is mostly balanced, and the candidates must fight it out for the final couple of points that will put them over the edge.
        Obama supposedly trounced Romney, yet it was a 51.1% to 47.2% victory. Even the 1980 Reagan election he only won with 50.7% of the vote.
        How would our views stack up against the feminists? You think it would magically come out 51 to 49 ? That just seems like bullshit to me.
        To me the only way I could buy that the numbers are accurate is if there is some deliberate fixing by the powers that be. I mean like an actual illuminati conspiracy where they sit around and they’re like.. “OK We’re giving the Jewish vote to the Democrats, but Republicans get the 2nd amendment issue. Oh but take away health care reform from them, give that to the Ds, we gotta balance it out.”
        Barring that I truly believe the numbers are completely fabricated.

        1. It’s bullshit. The 50/50 thing. Just part of the dog-and-pony show. I forget which Bush Jr. election it was, but the margin of victory was allegedly, what, like a few thousand votes – something like that. Whatever it was, I remember thinking that it was statistically impossible…

        2. Yeah, I would like to discuss with a statistician. I would think it is very, very rare that you ask a question of the general population and the answer comes back 50/50. That happens routinely every 4 years with our elections.

        3. If it IS true, this brings us to the fact that democracy is just madness. 49% of all people bow to the will of 51%. Wtf? How idiotic. No wonder people jump each other’s throats. Perfect divide and conquer. Who wouldn’t be mad at such a system? Yet nobody sees that the system is the problem. They actually are mad at each other.
          Someone on Facebook argued (rather honestly!) that the minority cedes to the will of the majority because the majority is stronger and would get it anyway, so that gets acknowledged.
          Makes sense at first sight. At second sight, it doesn’t. The ‘stronger’ ones are the ones who would win in a war. A party that gets elected mostly by bums, women and fags doesn’t win any war.

        4. When you realize the elite have financed both sides of every single modern war since modern warfare began, and their minions (politicians) have instigated every single modern war as well…well, there you go.

        5. Fantastic observation. I hadn’t really looked at it quite that way before. Very interesting now that you bring it up…

        6. Your gut feeling here is a dead-on, center-cut bull’s eye. The problem with indoctrination is, we think we need to check with an authority, in order to verify our position. And that authority is usually elitist-taught, in elitist-run schools. So talking to an authoritative statistician would typically involve talking to somebody who was mindfucked by the elite at their institutions of higher (or is that “hired”) learning. Your gut is correct in this instance, in my humble but statistically informed opinion.

        7. Yeah, think about it. If you had to stand up in a bar and ask one question that would get a 50/50 response from the crowd, what would it be? I’d be hard pressed to come up with a good one.

        8. Hell, the “election” could arguably just be the elitists official census head-count to keep records and nothing more. They use the info to incite the correct conflicts that maintain minimal order, but cause maximum social damage and cement their control.

      3. Weird, isn’t it. It’s a bit like Nazis in Germany. When they do a protest, guess who is super violent? You see 100 Nazis, maybe. Around them, 300 policemen. Around those, 2000 leftists all too keen to hurt those Nazis.
        Actual right-wing violence? I am not sure a lot of that even exists.

        1. Thank you. finally a comparison to 1930’s Germany that doesn’t mention “xenophobia” or some such made-up shit.

    2. If the playing field were level and this election were on the up-and-up (yeah, like that will ever happen), we’d probably see polls that put Trump up by a margin of 2-1 or more. The supporters that show up for both candidates’ rallies tell the real tale there…the problem is, the votes are tallied behind closed doors and there is no accountability.

      1. All of the UK polling organisations had a massive (probably faux) period of soul-searching (they didn’t find anything) after the Brexit decision here. Quite instructive….

        1. Of course!
          Makes it so much more satisfying when reality interrupts (and contradicts) the Elite’s agenda.
          There *are* Men left. There is still hope…

        2. True enough. If more and more people take the blinders off, it will be tougher for the controllers to get away with their bullshit. There is always hope.

        3. I’d say our politicians(SIC) are most reminiscent of Rabbits-Frozen-In-Headlamps right now.
          Who knows?
          Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk….
          I think they are trying to bore everyone into submission. Seriously.

        4. Real knowledge is a scary thing (blinders coming off). Usually, people run away from it in fear. But in this case (political awakening), I think it would lead to pure rage. Torches and pitchforks and a desire for retribution. Which might be part of the plan, too…put down the rebellion. Last time I checked, the elite had some serious military might. Heh.

        5. I don’t mind a society of dumbed down tools, as long as there is a place for those who crave strength, masculinity, individualism, liberty, and freedom. Just give us one place that is free from the corruption and degeneracy.

        6. I agree. The problem is that the word has lead every moron to think that they are the ultra special protagonist. So while everyone runs around thinking they are special there is really no one or any value.
          It used to be that people were taught to follow a predetermined path into death and every now and again somentsre specimen would show up and the word would be unable to contain them. Most often they would die penniless but leave an impression

        7. I wouldn’t mind being installed as Crown Prince of Monaco or something. Running this place? No way in hell.

      2. Honest ballots
        Fair, unbiased media
        Violent protestors being properly dealt with by authorities
        These 3 things would cause a Trump landslide, but as they say, “If wishes were fishes…”

        1. Honest PAPER ballots – with precinct captains who oversee everything. And everybody has to CONFIRM that the vote beside their name, is really theirs. They have to go down to the precinct and check off their name, afterwards, and confirm that this was their selection. And it all has to be posted in written form, and online, everybody’s votes, their names, and their confirmation signature beside their vote. Boom. But no, we are all taught that we should NOT talk about our votes, and who we voted for…and now they use electronic voting machines…how convenient for the election-riggers.

      3. She’s at 4/1 to win here in the UK but even the comments section of that betting add was 80/20 against Hilary.

        1. It’s all crap – Trump is way, way ahead. Anybody with a brain and some basic math skills can see that. But if nothing else, this election will push people away from believing what the government and media says. No matter what. And that’s a good thing.

        2. Saw an article earlier today (UK, think it was Torygraph) that said the betting sites see a possible Trump victory!
          Apparently the big money is on Hilary, but by *volume* far more little bets are on Trump. In part this is the odds given on the two candidates, but the owner/MD of the site said it was almost identical to the betting on Brexit and he wouldn’t “bet against” (ba da dum dum) a Trump victory!

        3. I’m into sports wagering in a big way. And I see a huge potential money rake for the Mob (er, I mean, for the betting concerns) with a Trump victory…in other words, the money part is on our side here. That’s another good thing.

        4. Yeah, I personally would believe the sports wagering conclusion above the hoaxing pollsters any day…

        5. Let’s say Hillary is at -$700 to win $100. And Trump is +$500 for every $100 wager. There is juice on that; in other words, 10% for the bookies from every losing bet. If Trump wins, they make more money. A lot more. Winners don’t pay juice – they get that 10% back…

        6. If Hilary wins then adios trust in govnt for a good 10 years. Trump is at least at 60 pc but if this election isn’t going to result in 1000s of election fraud scandals then ill buy you many many beers if I ever set foot in Vegas, Bob!

        7. I saw that, I also saw that while Hillary has had 70% of the money bet on her (a few calculated bets may have made this, not unbelievable with the Clinton’s) Trump had had 65% of bets placed on him albeit for less money. With 65% of the vote Trump wins easily.

        8. True true! I think the bookies are luring idiots in to balance their books from all the Trump bets. See,the bookies are smart and don’t like to lose

        9. I don’t know bob. I really think that Hilary is going to totally whomp him in EC.

        10. Because you live in an environment where there can be no other public perception when you’re walking down the street. You see Hillary shit everywhere, you hear all the nattering bobs going on about the Witch, and it seems just pre-destined. But it’s not.

        11. The Mob (er Vegas) stands to rake in big money if Trump wins…we’ll have to wait and see what the election-riggers have planned. I am on the edge of my seat, staring at the TV, drinking Aspartame-laced diet soda, and gobbling up GMO Tostitos, like, for real (wink).

        12. That’s actually a good argument that Trump is in fact the one going to win. The Mob doesn’t like to lose, and rarely does.

        13. I still think Trump wins…nobody will ever trust the government or the media again (well, except for the completely genetically unfit, heh), if Hillary gets in. I think it’s going to be Brexit all over again.

        14. I could say the exact same thing regarding you being in an echo chamber.
          My feeling about Hillary has nothing to do with the LES and liberal bent that people hear about. NYC in the sticks.
          It is my truest opinion that the electoral college will show a totally humiliating defeat for trump.
          Feel free to let me know I’m wrong when you have some numbers prove it and I’ll happily admit it.

        15. Except, Ohio is a swing state for a very good reason. It’s not that we have the most electoral votes, we don’t, but rather our demographics reflect a perfect cross section of America. As goes Ohio, so goes other states, and thus the election, to the point that it’s become a truism.

        16. Come back at me when you have numbers. My bet is that short of the huge can of whoop ass that Reagan opened in 1980 this will go down as the biggest EC victory in history

        17. Knowing that all presidential elections are rigged, via my familial and business connections, I would have to say that it’s all predestined. But for whom it’s predestined, that’s another story…

        18. This is the best argument I can think of that I am wrong. That said I still stand by it. We will find out in a couple weeks though

        19. I’m telling you how it’s worked out in every election since forever.
          Reagan, until the day of the election, was just as “He’s not going to win, he has zero chance”. Turns out, Ohio voted for Reagan.

        20. I dunno about blowout, but she will get CA and NY, which gets her 1/3 of the way to victory

        21. That’s a given. NY and CA cannot vote any other way but self-destructively.

        22. You know, my interest in this race is purely sporting. I only care about who the president is in as far as i care about how funny it would be to see the supporters miserable. I honestly have to say this was a close race for me as I would really like to see everyone let down. However, if it has to be one group over the other I’ll say I’d like to see the Hillary supporters miserable slightly more than the trump supporters and so given this I hope trump wins. Neither of them hitting 270 votes and the house deciding for Gary johnson seems like it would be the most hilarious but unlikely
          In a year when the Cleveland Steamers and the Chicago Cubs are in a World Series my guess is that wrigley field will explode, both teams will die and all fans will be let down again

        23. Having Johnson snag it would be comedy, no question. Too bad he’s not an actual Libertarian, I’d actually like for the LP to get some unanticipated real power, heh.

        24. I think she also takes Florida pretty handily. People need to remember that 70% of the states are statistically irrelevant and those, largely, are states that will vote for trump. I don’t know how many dakotas there are but I assume there is at least 11 and they can all vote for trump and it won’t matter

        25. Ok. Well let’s have this conversationsation in 2 weeks when I will either appoloize or be laughing at everyone who says the election was invalid

        26. My great-grandmother was a Cubs fan – way back when they were the Chicago Orphans. It’s a disease, passed down from generation to generation. And I used to live and die for the Cubs, until I found out that…well…sports is about as on the level as politics. Heh. But I’m right there with you, Kneeman. I want Hillary to lose, because I figure that will shake up some liberal Democrats, who I personally believe, are the more malleable of the two camps. Maybe a few of them will wake up. In the end, it’s all been decided. All you can do is look out for your own ass and make your own decisions while you still can.

        27. I actually think the election is going to be “resolved” in favor of whomever power brokers are working in the back rooms say should be POTUS. Bob’s argument that the Mob makes a financial killing if Trump wins seems to me to strongly suggest Trump winning. The Mob is kind of persnickety about losing massive amounts of cash.

        28. I think that this has even chances with either the Cubs or the Steamers winning

        29. Despite what a lot of people think Bob, I don’t believe people really want a revolution. “4 more years of nothing exciting while you keep working, funding that 401k and taking that annual vacation” is really the best slogan.
          Despite the constant talk about how fucked up things are, America, as it is today, is really fucking great. There are tons of opportunities to make money, technology that even as kids we would never dream of, legit chance of an actual retirement for people who get serious about money early on and, to be frank, a wonderland of fun.
          Yeah tv and movies and the media suck balls. So fucking what? And the extremes of faggotness and feminism are deplorable. But I have to say, there just doesn’t seem Too much to complain about.
          Make America great again? Fuck that. How about “don’t rock the fucking boat, I have 12 more years until I retire and really would like everyone to stop being assholes so i can enjoy that”

        30. Bob’s argument is as close to a valid argument disproving me as I can think. I have to give him that.
          I don’t believe the mob stands to lose money either way. Just make less one way than the other. That said, it’ll all be done in 2 weeks and we can get onto more important things like MST3K

        31. At my core I’m an NWO sympathizer. Survival of the fittest. I love this country these days. Unbridled opportunity for those who have guts, gumption and vision (for those who are not easily dissuaded or misled). I have both my hands, both my feet, and good health. Tomorrow is a day filled with opportunity, not oppression. God bless America. Let the sheep fight each other over non-issues. I’d like things to be more fair, I’d like Trump to win on merit – but I’d also like to be Batman. Not gonna happen.

        32. You know, the thing is, the Mob often lets the public win. The question is, will that happen in the election. I just don’t know for sure. I could ask my elitist-puke father, and find out, but he and I don’t speak. Whoever wins, you can bet they were handpicked.

        33. Ha! Very similar mindset. I’d like a blowjob from a young Olivia Wilde while another young Olivia Wilde licks my balls.
          It’s the same as it always has been. I really never understand the people who advocate total nuclear fall out and mad max style post apocalyptic rebuilding. Why? Because your girlfriend got into feminism and gave rim jobs to the entire defensive line of her college’s football team?
          I look out and see nothing but opportunity and fun. The idea of reducing the country to rubble just to put an end to bad music videos seems extreme to say the least

        34. Most people are waiting for the next “Walking Dead” episode, or the next version of World of Warcraft. Let’s face it, most people just aren’t passionate about anything. Why try to save them or awaken them, or even look out for their well-being? They don’t want to be saved. They aren’t capable of waking up. Let ’em burn, it’s not their time. Nothing personal, just part of the cosmic cycle of life. First you’re a cockroach. Then maybe you become a snake. Then, you regress and become fungus. God has his plan. Heh.

        35. Jesus, Kneeman, I only have a thing for one celebrity – Olivia Wilde. Why am I not surprised that you used this analogy. We see things the same way here. Let’s say there’s a rebellion and you “win”. Hooray! So what happens to the masses? Nothing. They’re still myopically asleep. They still don’t care. They still just want to eat, drink, fuck, watch TV and take a shit, while expending as little energy as possible. Heh. The more things change the more they stay the same…

        36. I know this bartender – I swear to god, she looks like Olivia Wilde. In the face. And she has a nice body – much bigger tits. Great ass and legs. First time I saw her, I did a triple-take. So I started making a play for her, as she was in the process of getting a divorce. And she let me know she was interested, she asked for MY phone number (Yeah!) So then I find out she’s Hell’s Angels’ property. So I took a step back, just to reevaluate the situation. But I am going to bang her. I’d show you her picture but I don’t want her face out in the open for obvious reasons. Dead-ringer.

        37. Exactly…”We won! We won!” Uh, no, you’ve got a bigger gap between the rich and the poor, coming right at you. Just as planned…

        38. Oh man. Get to it. Though I admit I like OW small aero drynamic body, tiny tits and all. Did you see the movie she did before she was famous where she gives a blow job to a drug dealer?

        39. So then I find out she’s Hell’s Angels’ property. So I took a step back, just to reevaluate the situation. But I am going to bang her.

          Tread carefully there Bob. I know you know that, but still.

        40. aero drynamic body

          Does that mean that her sweat evaporates more efficiently or something?

        41. Man…i know, I know. I just have to bang her. I’m working it all out. If I think it’s too risky, I’ll reassess. But she’s down for it.

        42. Yup. There’s just something about that bitch. Makes me want to shoot machine-gun torrents of DNA lather, right into her…normally I don’t even look at celebs, but it’s different with OW. I’d crawl through 20 miles of raw sewage to pry her phone number from the curled-up fingers of a dying leper. And I ain’t lyin’…sometimes, you just get hit with a thunderbolt.

        43. yea that cracks me up lolknee. I hope those people realize that they will probably be killed in that scenario

        44. Oh I think a lot of them are totally ready for a war and ready to kill or die. I respect it to be honest. I don’t understand it at all, but I respect it — at least where I think it is authentic

        45. She’s a liberal SJW lunatic puppet with multiple personalities…but that doesn’t make her any different than any modern slut 35 years of age or younger. Why discriminate? Yes, I’d bang her. She’s got some sort of magic going on there.

        46. I believe I could fuck the SJW right out of her much as I believe that lesbians are only women who haven’t fucked me yet and my theory that all women are virgins until they have sex with me.
          I actually had a talk with a girl who asked about number of sexual partners
          Me: honey, I honestly don’t know. I have been single for a very long time
          Girl: does it matter to you how many people I’ve been with
          Me: don’t be absurd. All women are virgins until I fuck them
          Successful conclusion to conversation

        47. I second GoJ. Tread carefully. HA may ask for a “finders fee” before you drop your pants.

        48. I feel that all men have a talent and it is an affront to their maker to not try to do their best to hone it. Bring a glib, swashbuckling womanizer is really the thing I am best at and not to become the most glib, swashbucklingist womaning asshole would just be a spit in gods face, no?

        49. “So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.” – Revelation 3:16…even the most ardent Christian would be hard-put to argue with you, if you quoted that particular biblical passage, my friend.

        50. I am never luke warm and the women who don’t spit are always allowed a second cumming

        51. good someone will make money out of Trump winning got the feeling most of the vested interests were on hillary’s side..

        52. there is nothing wrong with being prepared for the worse. The problem is some of these guys actually want an apocalypse scenario.

        53. I actually agree with you with one caveat. There is being prepared for the worst and their is being prepared for the worst. I have a first aid kit, a good sharp knife, a hatchet, a bunch of canned soup and beans, a fire extinguisher that I make sure has pressure in it and enough bottled water, toilet paper and duct tape (helpful for windows in case of hurricanes). On top of that I have a small safe that has a few grand in cash and a print out of all my relevant info (bank account and CC numbers etc etc etc). I think that is a level of being prepared that is just sensible (adjust for your local conditions).
          I think being responsibly prepared should take you about 30 minutes of thinking and, including time to go to stores to buy stuff, about 2 hours of getting ready. However, when people make preparing for an absurd mad max scenario an actual part of their day to day life I have to say it is fucking ridiculous. For my entire life there have been people stock piling shit and being ready for the day when the war comes to town. We have a word for these people. Lunatics.

        54. technology that even as kids we would never dream of,

          I take from that that you weren’t a very imaginative kid.

        55. I certainly wasn’t imaginative to think that all movies, music, tv shows and books would be immediately available for free 24 hours a day. I suppose you had forseen the amazing world of technology and that is why you are incredibly wealthy.

        56. I certainly wasn’t imaginative to think that all movies, music, tv shows
          and books would be immediately available for free 24 hours a day.

          For me neither 24/7 movies and music availability were/are the holy grail of human achievement, and believe it or not, when I was a child it was never part of my vision of the future. My family had a huge personal library with books from the beginning of the 20th century (1905…) onwards. Nowadays I view them (e-books and other electronic media) as logical outgrowth of our dominion over electricity…

          I certainly wasn’t imaginative to think that all movies, music, tv shows
          and books would be immediately available for free 24 hours a day.

          My vision of the future was supersonic travel, space colonies, lasers as weapons, ever more intelligent people and funny wars (I was a child), not traffic congestion, cumbersome air travel (Yes, some of us commoners have to travel overseas as part of our jobs, were it not for the cumbersome regulations that are tightening around the world it would completely funny), especially when going into and out of your country, feminism, extinction of the family worldwide, pussification of men and the real spectre of a global dictatorship (or at least a western one) that no one will resist because everyone is so numb and stupid.

        57. Hahaha, My mother has always said I was a non-conformist. Well at least I don’t live in the U.S. so it’s not so bad.

        58. I don’t know. I live here and the most i see of feminism and the death of masculinity and global dictatorships is when I read about it on ROK.
          I have to say, there is very little I would change about the world as it is. I think it’s just great.

        59. I guess I would think so If only had to live in one little comfortable place (Manhattan) and not travel and open my eyes. I think it was you who mentioned how you yourself have noticed the spread of faggotry of the hipsters movement et al. To your credit, I can say that if I had to choose place to live should I be forced to settle in the States, the place would be NY, despite its gun laws. Best libraries and the best talent (girl-wise) you steal from your flyover country states and the rest of the world…But I would need an even bigger salary.

        60. It’s true. And I have travelled the world (minus Asia which I was never interested in). I have a good buddy who travels for work 3 weeks for every month. I envy his travel and he envies my stable location. In the end the grass is always greener.
          The anti gun laws don’t bother me. I mean, yeah I’d like a gun but not having one isn’t something I feel is important to me.
          The salary/cost of living thing here is pretty offset.
          And we don’t steal the talent. They run here te-he. There are other places I’ve really liked. Paris and Barcelona were both amazing cities. I love Juan les Pins in the south of France and Pierenopolis in Brazil.
          But here i am for the nonce and I have to say all I see is opportunity.
          I notice the spread of faggotry when work forces me to go to areas I wouldn’t normally go to and on the subway I see the wuss hipsters but they are more to be laughed at. Every generation has had its freaks. The goth kids in the 90’s and the emo precursors in the 80’s the disco queers in the 70’s and the dirty hippies in the 60’s.
          I try to stick to good people in good places and I find the best women do the same thing.

    3. For an apples to apples comparison, there was a Pence rally too, and it looked like it drew at least several hundred, perhaps a thousand.

  6. I don’t understand the criticism of Trump’s policies as off the cuff or whatever. People may not agree with them, but saying that he doesn’t have any or that they are made up on the fly is provably incorrect. His tax plan has been on his website for over a year. Ditto some of his other intentions.

    1. Its not his plans,its his delivery, its the fact that people think he is all of those isms and ists that people are so afraid to be called. if that pussy mitt romney had the exact same trump plans he’d win by 8-10% and i really dont think thats an exaggeration

  7. It was the Assange leaks that really turned me around on this: before, I just figured “yeah, the media is evil, liberal and obviously in the Clinton camp.” Now that there is actual proof they were collaborating with the Clinton Camp (instead of just supporting them in editorials/content), it brings a lot more into scrutiny.
    This is just the tip of the iceberg: whatever Assange hasn’t released yet, and whatever the Clintons were smart enough not to put in email, is still out there.

    1. The most disturbing to be was the fat black woman who, when caught emailing a debate question to the Clinton campaign days before the debate, and then Clinton was asked that exact question verbatim, (an interview by Meghan Kelly) didn’t deny or try to explain the allegations, just went into some weird rant about “I mean if that came from wikileaks, I can’t even see the claim you’re making about me”. Kelly responded, the claim is you shared a debate question with Hillary, which was then asked in the debate 2 days later. The woman just acted like she was totally above even having to explain herself. Of course, I doubt she’ll be fired or anything will happen to her.
      Here it is:
      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/19/megyn_kelly_vs_donna_brazile_did_you_receive_debate_question_beforehand_brazile_i_will_not_be_persecuted.html

      1. she is the interim DNC head now, right? Heres another possibility for H’s inaugural song

      2. In light of the revelations by Assange, even I’m beginning to question some of the recent polling that shows Trump down by a lot. Unlike Clinton’s blatant collaboration with the media, there isn’t any solid proof that polls are deliberately sampled against Trump.
        But it’s worth looking into. If they’ve ceased merely being “pro-Clinton, but not making major violations of journalistic integrity” to “Fuck that shit”, it’s worth expanding the dragnet to polling firms, who may or may not have ties to Clinton, the DNC or the media.
        However, the LA Times polls have usually showed Trump up, or only Clinton +1 (statistically even). And the LA Times has a liberal bias. In any case, I hope Assange leaks some insight on this or the savvy hacktivist finds something.

        1. Couple weeks ago I thought it was over for TRUMP. However, I’m now questioning the polls as well.
          I’m convinced this is a tactic by the MSM and Clinton Campaign to demoralize folks on the right from voting.
          If you recall … they deployed this tactic the night before the California Primary when the MSM magically announced Clinton would be (D) Nominee. Had Bernie won California … the Clinton Coronation would have been in serious jeopardy. Therefore they prematurely called the race in an endeavor to subdue the BERNouts from voting.

        2. Looks at the IBD/TIPP poll. it is the most accurate poll in the last 3 elections and currently has trump down by less than 1 point meaning essentially its anyones game. The thing about other polls is they over sample dems, look at the abcpoll, they oversampled dems by 9 so they had clinton up 12. Independetns the largest voting group, were sampled less than both major parties,Trump leads Ind by 7 rn in the IBD/TIPP poll

        3. Thanks for link. Very interesting. Trump has said this is what’s going on. I’ve found it strange how the DNC and MSM has been in absolute hysterics over him saying it’s rigged. Their reaction to this alone makes one think they are cooking the numbers and are ripped he’s raising issue as it may actually make some look into it.

        4. Seriously. I mean, if Trump was a whack job spouting crazy nonsense, there would be no need whatsoever to even dignify it with a response. You would ignore it the same way you ignore the street-corner doomsday prophet. That they need to write an endless stream of articles and put out an endless feed of commentary on it tells me there’s something there (as if that wasn’t already obvious).

        5. Understood. This article may as well be about me. I hate both of them. But Trump is likely to get my vote. Clinton is clearly a criminal with the highest connections.

      3. Donna Brazile. And remember when MeGYN questioned her, she deployed the “I’m a Christian and won’t be persecuted” line? Without question … she used that line knowing the Media would play it to convince blacks ‘racist’ FOX News was attacking a black woman.
        The DNC is so — openly — corrupt that it’s mind boggling how they still have a loyal base. They truly are nothing more than a party which manipulates the lowest of the low in order for the elite to maintain power.

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    2. Gentleman: In response to nemisis_enforcer’s post, this is why we need to get organize and leave the “slacktivst” posting at RoK behind.
      Atlas Consulting is *literally a consulting company dedicated to advancing ‘progressive’ ideas*.
      http://atlasproject.net/#our-services/
      They are this organized. They have legions of analysts, pollsters and political scientists being paid as their day jobs to advance cultural marxism. It is (probably) a multi-billion dollar industry.
      The Republicans have organizations like this too (I’ve worked with them), but the “red pill” does not. We have to be this organized. We have to have an army. Right now, we’re basically the Zulu’s vs the might of the British Empire: we have no infrastructure, no activists, no money (for operations) and no organization.
      Note: I suspect Roosh is against organizing like this (creating an actual activist army, doing more than just blogging/writing books etc…) due to his trepidation at some of my proposals regarding this. But he is wrong.
      For years, writers such as Voltaire wrote about egalitarianism. In the 18th century. But it wasn’t until the late 1960s when the cultural marxists started organizing did shit really get done (for them). The American Revolution was not limited to a bunch of intellectuals writing about “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” The French Revolution did not start because Robspierre wrote pages upon pages against the Bourbons…it started because he stormed the Estates General and organized an army of activists to march on Versailles.
      Ugh. Maybe I should submit an article about this.

      1. The French Revolution was a horrible thing. Don’t ever equate that massacre of innocent commoner’s lives, tradition and religion as something good.
        It was simply another marxist revolution before there was marxism.
        Overthrow the old order.
        That is the purpose of all modern revolutions. Not to mention the involvement of freemasons in this upheaval as well. Whose chief aim as written by masons themselves is to do just that…..overthrow tradition, cause chaos and then offer the solution.
        Sound familiar huh?
        The open legs of that disgusting whore lady liberty are loathsome. Send her to the fucking dungeon where she belongs along with equality too.

        1. I was with you dude until the liberty comment. A rationally constructed notion of individual liberty, bounded by rule of law and tradition, is not a bad thing. The English worked on this system for nearly a thousand years, before they sold out their birthright. It doesn’t mean the stupid socialist injected atomism, rather, it’s something closer to a man being able to choose his future for his family and to help lead his community, or even to just resign himself to his fate in life as a farmer. Freedom of speech within the confines of decency, freedom to bear arms, freedom to not be at the mercy of government goons, these are good things.
          The socialists perverting liberty to mean “anything goes, except actual liberties which we’re trying to destroy” is not the real definition of the word.
          Or, put in the simplest terms, there is a continuum.
          Tyranny —> Liberty —> License —Tyranny (circular)

        2. Lady Liberty is the icon of the French Revolution. it represents the liberal/progressive ethos Liberty,Fraternity,Equality. When the revolution was underway and the Jacobins went about murdering every person they could find, among other things they were fond of desecrating churches by shitting all over the pews and having women dressed as lady liberty flaunt themselves in their orgy of sex and death.
          The French Revolution was a major turning point in the cause of leftist degeneracy and the lady liberty icon is a huge part of that. That’s why I spare no opportunity to shit all over that fuckin whore.
          Lady Liberty is the forerunner to feminism and womens “liberation” as well and also hearkens back to goddess worship, like Isis.

        3. You probably haven’t seen my previous posts. It was Britain’s moral duty to overthrow the French Revolution and Napoleon. The point is that writing pamphlets didn’t make it happen: people took the initiative.

        4. The Whigs in Parliament were (apocryphally) described the the Duke of Wellington:
          “The Supreme Virtue…to the Whig in Parliament it is license to do whatever he please so long as it does not disturb his pleasure…”

      2. Remember all the time Obama was spent vacationing, and just absent on primal matters of governmental duties for the past 2+ years? THAT’s when all this planning occurred.

    3. Assange holding back might be costing us “big league” as this is when Early Voting really ramps up nationwide.

      1. Agreed. He needs to do his money shot now. It’s two weeks out, a devastating leak of the kind that even the masses take notice of, will seal it for the Donald.

        1. What else does the general population need? Assange has been providing shocking information to us for weeks now and the left doesn’t care!

    4. The thing about wikileaks is it’s been proven that the credibility was source-checked (3) different ways, which in the brief magical time of MSM investigative reporting.. circa maybe 1950-80s, was viewed as “empirical” evidence, falling short only of court-worthy sentencing evidence… and often reporters’ material findings were used to prosecute cases as sound (non-bogus) evidence.
      FitzRoy, the affect it should have had on you is precisely accurate in result.

  8. As a disenfranchised Ron Paul supporter, I voted for Trump, though I don’t have high expectations. There are many things he can do via executive orders; we will see if he follows through if elected.

  9. Another parallel with Reagan. Reagan didn’t know a lot, so appointed great people and let them fight it out to see who had the best ideas and could accomplish the most. Building a property empire isn’t something even a smart person can do alone. There are dozens of unknown lieutenants who are great at the details.
    But it starts with the truth – You’re Hired or You’re Fired.
    The CTS stays quiet, but figures out what he can do – he might not be safe with a bumper sticker, but can man a distributed call center. He can debate and discuss in comments. He can network.

  10. Trump supporters usually discover each other by speaking in code. It usually starts with some slightly critical comment about the economy or society. Something that goes slightly off the narrative. Then you know you are talking to a Trump supporter and you can relax and speak candidly.

    1. It really kind of does go like that, especially on a college campus. Best thing tho was was wearing a trump shirt during these pa teacher college strikes, they were all trying to hand people stuff and when i walked by they just kinda ignored me, it was great.

      1. I had to work in a very leftist, openly gay town last week. I was wearing my MAGA hat and you would have thought I was walking around dressed as Hitler. People were straight up stopping and staring a few people were pointing. It was funny as shit.

        1. There is a huge segment of young males (mostly white males, just noting it for the records) at OSU who proudly wear MAGA hats and Trump buttons/shirts. It’s actually becoming “cool” to be right wing, since it’s becoming understood that we’re now the counter culture.

        2. I live in a very conservative town of about 1000 when im home, we have a trump sign thats like 5 ft. But someone obviously didn’t like it and would continually destroy it, well one day i found out who it was, their truck now looks like it belongs on the trump pence campaign, fuckers

        3. i bet children of super liberal parents are probably becoming conservative just to rebel against their parents the same way this surge of liberals today rebelled against their super conservative religious parents
          the almost unreasonable hatred of religion was probably started this way as well it’s just hating on their parents for dragging them to church on Sundays when they wanted to play video games at home

    1. Soros owns the voting machines in a few key swing states too…yep nothing to see here

      1. I read somewhere *all* manufacturers of electronic voting machines have ties to Clinton or to the Clinton Foundation.
        If only it was just Soros.

    2. I have an idea how to take care of this whole problem.
      Make it all paper-ballot based. Obligate the authorities to release automated scans of all ballots, free for download for everybody.
      Everyone can download that database and run their own analysis over it, including checking for similarities etc. Ideally, think of some way to make each individual ballot identificable uniquely.

      1. Paper ballots would be a lot more secure. Which is why we don’t use them now. If we’d had paper ballots in 2012, Obama would have been a one term loser.

        1. Actually, I was in the US during the election in 2012. My dad went voting and it was basically a paper ballot, but it was scanned in a machine, I think.

        2. Right, but we don’t have a centrally controlled vote counting system. Each county/precinct counts its own votes, so to pull off a real rigging you’d have to have a huge number of people in collusion. With an e-machine it can report whatever the fuck the programmers tell it to do.

        3. That’s how most votes are made. There might be 2-4 machines you feed your ballot into that scan the votes. Each of those machines uploads its result to an electronic database, which is where the shenanigans take place. Bev Harris proved this years ago in a documentary she did for HBO using the actual software and equipment many voting precints use.

      2. Nah – make everyone vote IN PERSON! on TV! Might take a while, but then we’ll know for sure.

    3. “According to the Randall County Elections Office, they were aware of this mistake but addressed it as user-error. They said that there are several voters each year who report that their ballots are mismarked, but they are usually caused by the voter accidentally selecting a different party.”
      Riiiight. Well, for fucks sake, get rid of thes stupid computers then.

      1. What’s funny is that you can vote “All Republican” or “All Democrat” and it selects all R or D. It can NOT select a D if you say “All R” and vice versa. In the story the people reporting this selected “All Republican”. That’s not user error, that’s rigging.

        1. I don’t know if these news can be trusted any more than msm news. To be frank, it sometimes seems to me like we’re totally helpless when it comes to truth in many cases. Just how can you be really sure? You hardly can. You can make educated guesses and even those are based on data that is mostly easily falsified.

      1. It’s also a criminal offense to rig the vote.
        They don’t care about the law, why should we? They count on us rigidly complying with their stupid diktats to help cover their own asses.
        Those days are ending.

        1. I’m not having a go at the dude filming, lol. What I’m suggesting is to film the process yourself and, if there’s a way, remove the “exif” data (details of the filming device) from the video and send it to famous Youtubers for the world to see. Most peeps gotta see it to believe it and enough heat might just catch the media’s attention.
          It is of utmost importance to only publish the video is there is clear evidence of fraud.
          Then instruct as many people as possible! (this is even more risky).
          There are downsides to this but it might be worth it.

        2. “Those days are ending.” Meh, gotta go with lolknee on this one. There will always be someone saying that the end is just around the corner.
          Surely it;s not that bad.

        3. I don’t mean it’s end of times. I mean that the time when politicians could count on us being docile little sheep and meekly obeying their stupid laws is coming to an end. The interwebs and cameras on every phone is putting a lot of their safe assumptions right into the shitter.

        4. Here’s an angle you might not have considered…what if the elite want rebellion; meaning, armed insurrection. What if that is part of their plan. They definitely have the military might to combat any sort of uprising. Throughout history, the most ardent opponents of the ruling class have been wiped out via this method. Because the most ardent opponents are the first to take up arms. And once they are eliminated, the elite have a much more docile herd of sheep to tend…just sayin’.

        5. They don’t want rebellion. That disrupts markets, and there’s a fair chance that 70% of our military turns on them and joins us. Added, we have 110+ million gun owners who don’t wear uniforms. Even if 20% of them are fit and able to take some fight to them, that’s over 20 million armed individuals, most of whom are former military. Last I checked (granted, 2012 numbers) they have a combined military count of 1.47 million. A good 3/4’s of those are logistics, support and your basic REMF.
          To win against that they’d literally (Hitler) have to nuke entire states, and take out a lot of their own supporters. Consider that they cannot even competently fight a horde of camel fuckers out in Afghanistan, and I don’t think that they’d stand a chance if we got really riled up.
          Now I’ll tell you that the *hothead* will be the first to take up arms. The most ardent, on the other hand, know better. And some of us know all the rules and tricks of asymmetrical warfare, as well as understand the real battlefield to win, which is, the perceptions of the general non-participatory populace.

        6. The thing about duality is, you can argue either side of any coin. I see your points. But I also see U.N. troops and a worldwide military force of massive proportions, ready to jump whenever the NWO says jump. The elite want the inner-city shootings, especially of policemen. The elite want insurrection on a wide scale. Because they want to put U.N. troops and police in every major city, after the smoke clears. This has been planned for a long, long time.
          True, there are smart people out there, who have arms. But they are not organized. And they are not on the same page, not totally; they are on the same page in purely an idealistic, nationalistic sense. Which makes them all isolated threats, in the end.
          They may be ready to die for their beliefs, but once they see a standing U.N. police force and army, with zero qualms about shooting Americans, that will be a different story. And the U.S. troops you mentioned. Well…part of the indoctrination process, in order to get into the military these days, is being asked whether or not you’d have a problem firing on U.S. citizens. And from what I gather, most recruits have no problem with that one.
          The ranks of the military have been filled primarily via the ranks of the poor, at the bottom, and the minions of the elite, at the top, and this is how it has been for centuries. I know a U.S. air force colonel and he and I both agree that war has always been about genocide – the elimination of those who are deemed to be a threat, or to be genetically inferior, by the elite (who are the first to jump up and fight for their country? – the most ardent supporters of freedom; ask Pat Tillman about that one, and how it works out for a man who harbors that particular spurious urge..).
          True, there are other benefits – like the usurpation of natural resources, and the implementation of IMF banking systems, and the rebuilding of decimated areas which is always undertaken by elitist companies with sweetheart government deals. But primarily, war has always been about genocide. Getting rid of the unfit and the people who most ardently oppose the ruling class. (Notice how battles are rarely fought in rich neighborhoods; notice how they never do aerial bombings of rich, gated communities…this is not a coincidence, I’m sure you realize.)
          So let’s take a look at today’s youth – indoctrinated via the media, and Common Core, and SJW brainwashing. That’s who the military will be, in the future – if they aren’t already. And they merely take orders, in the end. Look at Kent State. If they are told to fire, they will fire.
          The notion of patriotic military members, going rogue, is ludicrous. Their higher-ups are all elitist-owned and managed. Colonels, generals, admirals – all elitist-controlled. In Hollywood movies it’s a different story; in reality, that’s how it is.
          This is just my informed opinion. And we could go on and on about this, like dogs chasing our tails. But in the end, I think it’s all about what one chooses to focus their energy upon. Not sure that the tail-chasing will do much of anything, except burn up our existing energy.
          And hey, now that I think of it, maybe that’s part of the overall plan, too…

        7. Can you think of any way quicker to turn the entire population against the government, than the U.N. showing up? Shit man, I’d welcome that, we’d suddenly acquire 200 million new “soldiers” overnight.

          The notion of patriotic military members, going rogue, is ludicrous.

          During Tienanmen Square there were units that broke off and took the side of the students. In China. Communist, fully indoctrinated, wholly unindividualistic China.

        8. Let’s examine Tiananmen Square. That event was seen by hundreds of millions of people – courtesy of the elite-owned MSM. Meaning, the elite wanted people to see it. Or it would never have been shown on television. That is Logic 101, and I’m sure you see it.
          So I say it was stage-managed. A fictional event, staged as being real. Just like everything that Gandhi ever allegedly did, which supposedly “brought the might British Empire to its knees due to the incredible effectiveness of non-violent resistance”. Or the exploits of MLK Jr., and how his minions “fought the tyranny of the elite via non-violent resistance”.
          Protesting via non-violent resistance makes two primary things happen – the perpetrators get identified, and the most-ardent ones wind up dead or neutralized (prison, psych wards, etc.). What happened to that student at Tiananmen Square? Neutralized. Permanently. The elite were showing the world what happens to dissenters. They love doing that shit, tongue in cheek. Meanwhile, the masses are convinced that non-violent resistance works, due to MSM indoctrination, and educational indoctrination. Another beautiful scam here…
          The military accomplishes the same thing, in a much more clever way. The poor make up the ranks at the bottom, and the elite make up the ranks at the top. But the most ardent fighters for freedom always join the military at the drop of a hat, because they are supposedly running off to kill various boogeymen in the fight for freedom. But as I mentioned in my other comment, ask Pat Tillman about that one. Ask his parents.
          If you are a do-gooder, or a true supporter or virtue and morals and freedom, and you go rogue, what is going to happen. Ask Pat Tillman – oh wait, he’s dead. War has always been about wiping out those whom the elite deem to be genetically unfit (i.e., the poor), and the most ardent, idealist individuals, who are most likely to oppose the elite on principle.
          We just see things differently, that’s all…I’m crazy and you’re not, basically (heh).

        9. You’re thinking two dimensionally I believe. You’re fighting World War 2 in your assumptions, I’m not.
          I won’t go into much detail here, but I will say that I supported, directly, special operations units whilst I worked in Intelligence. The new way to fight war has almost nothing to do with marching shoulder to shoulder in a long line and “taking down the Man”. It’s much more…elegant.

        10. Well I wouldn’t know about that – your ties to military intelligence, and the unique perspective it has afforded you. But I know who calls the shots from on high. Which, as I think you are subtly pointing out (if I am reading between the lines correctly here), does not mean that all puppets beneath the elite controllers are actually puppets…interesting. Big world. Lots to know. We only know a snippet, whatever we think, that’s for sure.

  11. We need look at only one U.S. state to discover that polls and elections are rigged – Ohio. (And I know GOJ will back me up here, although I can’t supply examples in certain precincts, he probably can.) I’ve looked at all of the data from every presidential election since before Lincoln’s time, and Ohio is historically a Republican state, to the core. Put a black man in office who takes away jobs and implements a health care system that decimates everybody but the lower classes, and it’s a cake-walk for any Republican presidential candidate in Ohio who runs against Obama in his bid for second term. And yet – Obama somehow magically won Ohio! This is utter crap.
    They massage the polls to make it look like it’s reaaaaaaaally close. More drama that way. I guarantee you that Trump is up by 3-1 or more in Ohio as we speak. But the polls? No. Trump and Hillary are neck and neck, or Trump is slightly ahead. It’s ridiculous, the blatancy of it…such is the power of the media to indoctrinate minds.

    1. Going by the yard sign/bumper sticker count, I’m seeing about 8 Trump signs/stickers per 1 Hillary sign/sticker. That’s huge, most of the time there’s a semi-close split. If I had a GoPro I’d take a ride down a whole mess of roads and streets and show the huge imbalance in favor of Trump.

      1. “Reality isn’t what you think it is, it’s what we tell you it is.” – Official White House Mouthpiece

      2. I spotted a unicorn yesterday. If I wasn’t driving on the interstate, I would’ve taken a pic. There was a truck plastered with bumper stickers all over the back, but amidst the stickers was a Trump/Pence one.

      3. You can bet that the houses with Hillary signs has at least one government employee living there.
        Might not be the case in true blue states.

        1. Or someone belonging to a teacher’s union. The teacher unions have done some of the greatest damage to this country by protecting shitty teachers and failing schools in their endless quest to suck more $ from tax payers.

        2. I fully agree with you on this one. Some years ago I and many others had beef with this absolute cunt of a human being and despite the trouble caused he never got his ass excluded. Later on I found out that the school was receiving all sorts of funds for his “conditions”. It’s all about the moolah

        3. Exactly. In Maine right now, they’re trying to raise Income Tax on anyone earning $200,000 plus by another 3% to fund schools. Of course their whole marketing is they need more money “for the kids.” It’s such B.S. This has nothing to do with funding for schools — it’s merely about more cash for administrators and teacher unions. I guarantee if it passes, 3 years later they’ll still be zero improvement to schools while programs are still cut.

        4. This is so annoying. First off, if they managed the money they got already correctly then they wouldn’t need it. Second, it is a punishment for success and third, the money goes, as you pointed out, almost entirely to unions and admins

        5. Really? Is Maine’s straight-talking, “Trumping” governor against that initiative?
          I know the state went for 0bama but I figured Maine would be too conservative to even consider hiking a marginal tax bracket by 3 whole percentage points.

        6. I’m sure he is but it’s gone to ballot. It’ll be interesting to see what happens. I have a feeling it’s going to pass. The Yes on 2 folks are running commercials making it sound like those earning $200,000 (plus) a year pay less in taxes than those earning $24K. Again … as I said, should it pass, I guarantee they’ll be next to zero school improvements as administrators see a pay increase.

        7. Gov’t employee, union, or healthcare.. I know it sounds crazy healthcare right? Well I’m learning the general sentiment of the one field that 50% of all high school graduate females (and increasingly male) “nursing students” sight, is that the change over to Obamacare has been so brutal, they’d rather just not go through it again at work, and make something out of what’s being implemented. Sad.
          – Chalk up a Hillary vote for anyone in an “institutional” related field.

        8. Voting down the local teaching levies this Nov. 8th myself. All b.s. 5th years teachers commanding 6-figure salaries, they can kiss my white ass.

        9. Ooh you struck a note. My 8yo daughter’s teather had a mock “election” in her fucking classroom to see who the kids will vote for for president. Hmm, obviously who the parents will. They also had the school choir put on a musical with pay-entry for all of $7 a head, and guess where the proceeds go? To support of the God damned school levy.
          Locally, it has blown up into a “yuuuge” social media storm as the dumb-fuck Superintendent used Twitter and FB to advance his sob campaign. Scare tactics and all, claiming major programs will be cancelled… Oh yea asshole? In one of the 2 wealthiest school districts in the whole area? Sure. No less, the last 2 weeks has been “DARE” week, which they’ve blended into “anti-alt-right” week for different dress styles to support ALL the SJW causes: bullying, drugs, drugs, drugs, bullying, genderism. I’m steaming.

        10. In my college town of Burlington, Vermont … the spoiled teachers just went on strike as the 25 paid personal days, 95% city paid benefits and $70K/ annual salary is not good enough!
          I really wish folks would wake-up to this BS and ask why it is they’re always demanding more money yet extra-curricular programs and athletics are cut.

        11. Yea. Lol. Last week the local news covered a mock election at one of the schools. Well … didn’t I know how that ‘election’ would turn out before the story was finished. As expected, 80% of the kiddos voted for Hillary.
          Teacher unions have done great harm. When my father went to high school, there were countless practical programs which taught kids REAL skills. The neighbor across from my family’s house learned carpentry through the high school. He became wealthy with those skills. We don’t have programs like this anymore. Every year programs are cut while the unions keep saying they need more money.

      4. exactly how pa is, i live in a small crap college town and its 10/1 trump over hillary no exaggeration, sad thig is tho that that shit hole philly will cost us the state it always does, i hate that city every 4 years

        1. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, we have to find a way to neuter the big cities. That the hordes of inner city scum basically control the nation, where their values and assumptions don’t apply outside of their zoos, is intolerable.
          I’d say, hey, how about one electoral vote per county, period. And no adding or subtracting counties, they’re set exactly as they exist today, forever. So sure, a huge city might be across two counties, but generally a county that holds Chicago has no more national influence than a county in Wyoming.
          I’m really, really tired of the socialists motivating the cities and screwing the entire rest of the nation.

        2. It’s this way in most states with a large city in it. When I lived in the Northwest, the bulk of Oregon and Washington were red. It’s only when you get into Portland and Seattle that things are irrationally liberal. Unfortunately being those areas hold the majority of population in the 2 states, they dictate the outcome every election.

        3. Well, not “big” per se, but Cheyenne is a bright glowing crimson. Cincinnati traditionally votes GOP.

        4. yep its terrible, and i think its only gonna get worse, as these inner city scrubs have 5 illiterate kids. I heard biden just proudly say for the first time in us history whites will just be the biggest minority as theyll no longer be over 50%. I don’t now how republicans recover if trump loses, the demographics seem to be changing quickly.

        5. It’s not just the large cities. It’s the decaying towns which were once places of manufacturing. My family is from Waterville, ME. Waterville — a community with less than 20,000 people — at one point had 5 or 6 manufacturing mills which paid extremely well. Those mills have all closed. To see what’s happened to the community is disgusting. It’s now just a place for welfare, drugs and idiots reproducing like rabbits.

        6. Right, but small towns offset each other, and for every one shithole Podunk town there are fifty nice towns. Cities, you get 90% that are consistenly socialist leaning, and 10% that aren’t (and I’m being generous here with the 10%, it’s probably much lower).

        7. No need to make it that complicated. How about each state gets one vote. Popular vote in your state tells you which way it goes. In the event of a tie, president that wins the popular vote wins.

        8. meh, that makes no sense. Why should a county like Kings County which is the financial backbone of the entire nation be equal in authority to some back water shit hole that if it was nuked out of existence no one would really notice or care?

        9. You are perfectly free to govern your own city, state and county. That doesn’t take away your power. That’s the theory of the U.S. actually, localities being more powerful than the Federal government. What it prevents are the socialist retards in cities dictating how those of us who don’t live within 500 miles of them should live. Again, this was the entire premise of Federalism. The Federal election should have no real impact and should have no one segment of society presiding over any others.

        10. That’s fair enough. But then lets just go with my idea of having actors who look the Part play president. I think James Brolin looks awfully presidential. He can make speeches and stuff.

        11. Because then the cities continue to win. If you look at election maps, you’ll find that even New York is predominantly “red” except for the big ol Apple. So is Oregon. And Washington. In fact, basically any state. But those big cities just overwhelm all the other counties. I want a real leveling of their power at the Federal level. At the local level they’re still free to construct their idiotic socialist utopias, but they should not control my life out here in flyover and force me to pay for their bad policies.

        12. I agree with your take on the far left in cities. I simply was saying the small towns gutted by NAFTA are now epicenters for morons reproducing — to emphasize what’s coming all across the US: an epidemic of completely illiterate children turned adults who will inevitably know no better than to live off the system.

        13. Yeah, we have some of those towns. Portsmouth, for example, the residents of whom are labeled “river rats” by the rest of the state. Nasty system riding hillbillies, to the last one.

        14. A better idea would be to make any city with a population above 500,000 into its own state. That way, the rest of the state does not get screwed.

        15. Say Columbus Ohio became a state. A state entirely landlocked by a state that surrounds it completely. It makes no real sense.

        16. You should probably learn about this thing called “gerrymandering” and how it affects voting outcomes. And it ain’t the Democrats doing it.

        17. Don’t talk to me like I’m a naif, please.
          Given my druthers I’d entirely dis-empower the giant cities at the federal level. Not their states, but the cities themselves. They live lives unlike we do, but they dictate how we have to live ours at the federal level all the time. I’ve had enough of this nonsense.

        18. Seems simple enough to fix:
          For state-level: “Repeal” Reynolds v. Sims
          For federal-level: Have all states adopt the ME/NE system of EC vote allocation.
          Bonus:use a per-county system for Senators, Governors & all other “at large” positions in/for a state.

        19. Worth examining, I hadn’t considered those routes.

        20. Bruce Willis would be an top notch President by that standard, plus, if German terrorists invade the White House we know for a fact that he could take them out.

        21. I can Willis as either vice president or maybe secretary of war (I don’t buy into this new fangled Sec Def bs) but I think we need someone older with a respectable gray hair do that belongs firmly in the 1950’s.)

        22. I would so vote for Leslie Nielson. He would look the part and literally (hitler) every single person in the world would watch the state of the union. I wonder if he would bring OJ in to be his bumbling sidekick.

        23. I would form a huge multi billion dollar lobby whose sole goal would be to get him to visit Queen Elizabeth.

        24. That guy could say “Good day” and I’d crack up.

        25. The legalities would be staggering. Assuming we’re working under Federalism instead of our current pseudo-Fascism thing. I see what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s feasible without open territory without claims on it.

      5. I don’t understand bumper stickers. If I was running for president I still wouldn’t put a kneeman for president bumper sticker on.
        As for the lawn signs, they are only slightly less rediculous. Who are these people with stickers and signs

        1. I dunno, I don’t do them either. But lots of folks do. Probably the more enthusiastic. So I use it as an enthusiasm indicator. I figure for every 1 sign/bumper sticker I see, there are ten people voting that way. So far by that factor, Trump seems to have Ohio sewed up. Even Cleveland is showing up with Trump signs, and that’s really unusual as they’re the Dem holdout in Ohio.

        2. Tough to say. Without joking, I think you need to take the psyche of someone who would put a bumper sticker on their car into account.

        3. Right, they’re “enthusiastic”. But they represent a larger number of people. I figure any group of 10 people has at least 1 “convinced” person who is down with the party line come rain or shine. Hence, my calculation.

        4. It just may be that you are right. Or it could be that trump folks are simply more likely to be bumper sticker guys.
          I think the biggest problem that trump faces is that the world simply isn’t bad enough for people to want to make a big change.
          Make America great again? Like when? Like when W had us in the war business? Like when Clinton was in office? Like when Senior oversaw our economy in the shitter?
          Maybe like when Reagan was president? Would that be great again? I mean the Cold War really helped that whole thing out and I like Reagan but we were in some serious hot water back then. He navigated through it with aplomb but things were tough for a lot of people? So when? Make it great like when carter was president? Or how about when Vietnam was going on?
          Really, there has always been some good and some bad but we are living in excellent times and Trump has positioned himself as someone who will change things. I think a lot of people will stop and say “you know what, I don’t really want things to change. Better the devil you know”
          Now I may be totally wrong and we will find out in a few weeks but that is my reasoning for thinking that trump will take a sound thrashing. In the end people are going to want to “stay the course”

        5. Things may be good for you and me, but realize that there really are over 94 million eligible workers with no jobs. Life sucks for them. The coal belt has been devastated directly by Obama’s policies via the EPA, to the point that the once staunch unionists that the Dems count on as a staple constituency are supporting Trump. They want change, badly. NAFTA gutted the industrial based midwest, and he’s talking about that, people are listening. Out West, idiotic water policy, almost all instituted by Obama’s EPA, are driving cattlemen out of business permanently. There exists a very large portion of the population for whom life has become increasingly uncomfortable and sparse since Jughead took office in 2008.
          For these people, nearly half of the adult population, staying the course is suicide.
          Trump is sparse on details on some things, no doubt, I’m not a pimp for him, which I’m sure you realize. I just think you really don’t have a good grasp of the game on the ground out here. You live a great life, people around you are comfortably happy and numb. And fairly, I live a great life too and basically come in each day from my time machine from the year 1955 (my part of the country is still in 1955, you know). But damn man, things are a bust across a lot of the nation.

        6. Nah, around here Trump stuff is everywhere. It’s the Hillary types that are getting the middle finger in my area.

        7. I am curious to see how This all plays out. I wish the republicans would have run a simple fiscally conservative, quite and personable candidate rather than Ronald McDonald’s slow nephew. It really might have been a sweep. hilary is so incredibly unlikeable that for her to even have a chance she has to stand next to trump.

        8. I totally agree with that. I was really on board with either Rand Paul or Ted Cruz. Then in comes Trump and turns it into Reality Television. Hillary is virtually unelectable against any other candidate, shit, even Kasich could kick her butt and nobody likes him.
          That said, I’m still voting for Trump and hoping for the best.

        9. The election reminds me a lot of the duck season wabbit season arguments where the DNC basically said “yeah well we are going to run the most absurdly unlikeable human being on the planet earth” and the RNC, like the bunch of Daffy Duck dopes they are, jumped in right away with saying “oh yeah!!!!!!! Look at this fucking orange turd WE are going to run” while pretty much everyone in the world made a collective face palm

        10. Take Trump out of the picture and we realistically had one of the most dynamic and qualified set of candidates to choose from that we’ve had during my lifetime. Reagan was great, no question, but I mean the entire slate except maybe Kasich was a fantastic choice.

        11. That song is one of my guilty pleasures from the 1980’s. I know that as a big tough gun shooting macho alpha male type, I should be repulsed by it, but it was just such a fun song.

        12. He actually polled very well against her back during the primaries. Why, I have no freaking clue.

        13. I know how much you hate HRC, but I’d point out that she’s got a plan to put those unemployed people to work rebuilding our national infrastructure, which is rated D. The catch: You’d have to vote for her first, and she’d do it through the federal government, which is hated at this point in history.

        14. Kasich is the only GOP candidate out of all 17 who beat HRC in a head-to-head poll. I think it was by 2%. Trump never stood a chance against her, and neither did any of the others.
          Kasich knows this and is playing the long game. He’ll be the only man left standing from this cycle because he didn’t succumb to Trump, never endorsed him. My prediction: A Kasich v Clinton race in 2020 that will be the closest election in modern memory.

        15. Kasich is an idiot who said during the primaries that he ought to be running as a democrat.
          Which is about the only sage wisdom that he’s ever expressed as he truly does embody the democrat platform, he even has a messiah complex (“I consider myself the Prince of Light and Hope…”) to top it off.

        16. Government “roads and bridges” is nothing but rehashed FDR and has demonstrably done nothing but exacerbate bad economic times. That money to “build roads and bridges” has to come from somewhere, it’s not a closed loop financially. Had FDR not gone all loopy with his programs the Great Depression would have ended ten years earlier than it did without even needing a war to solve it. Realistically the Depression of 1871 was much worse than the Stock Market crash in the 1920’s but, having sane politicians who didn’t engage in “roads and bridges” silliness it righted itself quite easily.

        17. I’m for human liberty as defined by rule of law, rational self interest and a bounded government, and nationalism. Trump provides some level of lumpen nationalism which, frankly, I like, but he’s really not my ideal choice. Paul and Cruz had their own set of problems, but realistically operated a lot closer to my principals than Trump does (or may, I dunno, maybe he’ll follow through on some of the stuff that still sounds right wing that he endorses).
          Look, end of the day, I’m going with Trump. I recognize reality and letting that Witch get the keys to the football is a recipe for World War 3, not to mention the complete Sovietization of the U.S.

        18. That’s correct, I recall those polls as well.

        19. Wait a minute. Do you not remember Obama in 2008? “Shovel-Ready jobs.” Bullshit, just NOW (I’m assuming) has ANY of the infrastructural $$ been released. In Northwest Ohio, literally the entire country side (cities too) is road construction.. and that was by design for election “impressions.” In 1998 our national infrastructure was $2 Trillion behind, and has NEVER been less behind since. Remember the random bridges falling apart with cars on them?
          Bottom line is Hillary won’t do shit, and when the current wave of ‘infrastructural’ projects started this year are done, that’ll be IT for another 8 years if she gets elected.

        20. Don’t trust the poles. They are stupid and irresponsible people. (joke is funnier spoken)

        21. But, you have to admit, they have a crack septic tank division that is ready to confront the German menace.

        22. I really miss the blatantly racist jokes and stories we grew up with. They weren’t political statements, they were just fucking funny.

        23. NAFTA cleaned everything out from Gary, Indiana to the East Coast. When I left Seattle and moved back to New England … I saw first hand just how bad it really is across the US. So many communities in the upper Midwest to the Northeast which had manufacturing are completely decimated. I’ve watched videos of what it was like in some of these places decades ago and it makes you want to cry. They were thriving. Now they’re just full of welfare and heroin.
          “For these people, nearly half of the adult population, staying the course is suicide.” And that’s the scary thing. To many people it feels like there’s no path forward. I know many people who once made a healthy wage barely staying afloat now.

        24. That lie was told during Obama’s first term. You really lap their shit up unflinchingly.

        25. Trust a Pole if he’s a Winged Hussar and the Caliphate is trying to conquer what’s left of Europe…

        26. See, this is the problem with people of all forms of conviction on every side of every debate…no one can just let a polish joke be..it always has to be a thing

        27. Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks FDR fucked up the depression. Whenever I tell people he prolonged the depression, not stop it, they look at me like I have five heads. Williams, Friedman, and Sowell have all cogently outlined how his do-gooder meddling made things worse, yet people don’t typically read those guys in high school history and economics classes.

        28. Whoa, I hadn’t seen that one before!
          Are we sure this wasn’t Cruz channeling Rudy Giuliani?

        29. She was just some random hog on Maury or Springer, and it made the internet rounds as the female Ted Cruz. She was offered $10k from a porn site to do a sex tape with her boyfriend, and I believe she obliged.

        30. Well at least it’s about heterosexuality.. I also like certain music that is possibly discouraged like some broadway musicals, but then have a so much stronger interest in rock and metal that it cancels it out..

        31. HRC will be 73 in ’20, and with her well known health issues now there is a strong chance she may not run again. They’ll either run Warren or some young urban mystery meat type who would eat up Kasich.

      6. I don’t see any Hillary signs or stickers in VT. A few Trump signs but no Trump stickers on cars. I read somewhere that Trump might carry VT because so many Bernie supporters are going to write in his name on the ballot.

        1. I’ve actually heard whispers of rumors of the same, except scaled nationwide. Hope it’s true. Just think, some snotty little socialist does the “I’ll vote for Trump because fuck you Hillary” and then Trump gets some good legislation through, their lives improve and suddenly they shift right wing.

        2. I heard that as well. I went to college in Burlington which is pretty far left. I read years ago VT was a solid red state until people from Brooklyn moved in and changed the place. I always wonder how long until this happens to New Hampshire. The state is becoming overrun with Massholes fleeing Taxachusetts. They move to NH yet vote in (D’s). I just wonder how long it’ll be til some (D’s) propose NH rid of the ZERO income and ZERO sales tax.

        3. Kinda what I’m hoping for. If TRUMP is elected and in his first 3 years, people see a serious up tick in their paycheck … it may make these idiot socialist question things. Though I really don’t know. We could have actual entry level jobs and growing pay checks and I think these people would still be focused on rhetoric they don’t like.

        4. I watch in disbelief at all those young idealistic millennials who wanted Bernie and are probably going to vote for Hillary. Do they know who is funding her campaign? Have they read any of the Wikileaks or FBI emails that have been released? That is what is most surprising about this election, the cynical amount corruption and collusion of Hillary, the media, and the big donors. Everyday a new revelation about Hillary yet the media is still talking about Trumps comment from 2005 and parading whores who said Trump groped them.

        5. Those commies will have a helluv fight in New Hampshire once the Free State Project fully takes over.

        6. Are you in New Hampshire? I’m aware of the Free State Project and wouldn’t mind becoming part of it. I grew up next door in Maine. I moved back to New England 2 years ago. I’m seriously considering settling in New Hampshire. There’s no denying the economy is better in NH than ME.

        7. I have several close friends that were all about the Bern. They are voting Clinton and they don’t give a fuck. It boggles the mind.

        8. Zero sales tax in nh? Wow!
          ….
          Libturds will always vote fpr more taxes, so the gubmint can take care of everything for them.

    2. All those conservatives can’t compete with an army of dead people rising from the ashes to vote Democrat.

        1. There;s this joke on circulating on the internet: “My grandfather is voting for Hillary. Tried talking him out of it but he has been dead for a while now.”

    3. From Ohio too. Live there now. I too was shocked Ohio went blue last election. I mentioned in another reply, that I drive country roads 2-3 days a week. 500-700 miles. It’s Trump/Pence signs everywhere. There are those with no signs of course, And I figure at least half of them are +Trump too.

      1. Trump/Pence signs are everywhere. I’ve been bouncing between Maine and New Hampshire and it’s all TRUMP stuff everywhere. Even in liberal Portland, Maine I see Trump signs. As of today, I truly think the DNC n MSM are manipulating polls in their quest to demoralize voters. It’s a good tactic I have to say as last week they even had me thinking it was over. Just imagine if millions on the right feel that way and say “f-it” on 8 November.

      2. But you gotta compare the relative sparseness of the rural areas vs. the densely populated and heavily blue pilled urban areas like Cleveland …

  12. I think this is what Scott Adams was trying to get across during his whole “I support Clinton for my own safety” phase.
    It is not politically expedient for most people to actively support Trump. This is because the Trump supporters are substantially less militant and crazy than those who oppose him.

  13. The voting machines in battleground states are owned a company that belongs to George Soros. Just saying.
    I’m guessing the election will be made to look like a narrow victory for Sh*tlary.

    1. Last election, I believe Mitt Romney held a stake in a company that controlled voting machines in key battleground states. People made a big deal about that, and yet, Obama “won”. You never know what the man behind the curtain has planned, until he opens the curtain and shows you…

      1. I wouldn’t say that fraud was a factor in Romney losing.
        The fact that Romney pretty much gave up campaigning by mid-October had more to do with it.

        1. Oh, no, there was plenty of fraud. Some 100% Obama! ™ precincts in Ohio had plenty of people who voted for Romney.

  14. If our vote matters, why do we only get two choices who have any chance of winning…and why do we vote electronically? Did we get to vote on whether or not we should use paper ballots? Uh…I’m really confused here.

  15. hey all. first post, relatively new reader & lurker. CTS is entirely the situation I find myself in. I live in communist Massachusetts. the leftist depraved has become incredibly evil. they will believe anything the lying media tells them to believe about Team Trump.
    it is just not worth it to get disowned by family or slammed with vicious false accusatory racial attacks. anything we say, no matter how soft spoken and factual and reasonable, it gets re-interpreted through a leftish filter. these people ultimately, I think, have broken amygdalas. they are not able to perceive the threat of a Stalin or an Islamobama or a Clinton, even after they have killed a bunch of people the leftist depraved are still inclined to make excuses for these guys.
    I’m not trying to get my car molotov cocktailed by violent racist leftists.

    1. I live in Seattle. It is 90% leftest here. Now the breed of leftest we have would never confront me. Even the people of color around here are less aggressive and are not going to mess with a larger man. But if I proudly display my support of trump. My car and home will be vandalism in the night. And my job might go away. Leftest are not nice people. They are not like you and I. We see them as stupid, they see us as evil.
      And welcome to the ROK party

      1. Lets go baby. I like the boldness. Why the fuck should we be scared of weaker people? We should be the bullies.

      2. “Leftist are not nice people.”
        No sir they are not. That’s exactly why I took my Trump sticker off my car. I got enough double takes to convince me that my car would likely be damaged.

    2. Media doesn’t lie when they directly quote Trump’s idiotic blather. “I have the best words” or “Nobody has more respect for women than I do”. That’s him hanging himself with his own lies. We opponents of the Orange Sociopath don’t want that bullshit representing us on the world stage. It’s hard for me to understand why you (and others) can’t see that.

      1. We have the Perpetual Liar Obama currently who is an absolute embarrassment to our nation and traditions, so it’s not like this is uncharted territory.

        1. GoJ, I honestly respect a lot of what you write here. But then you say shit like that ^^^^^, and I wonder what planet you’re living on, or whether you’re just drunk.

        2. What the fuck are you talking about?
          Everything he just said is FACT.
          The selfie taking dandy sitting in the white house is pathetic. That you would disparage a man for noting this is very telling.

        3. I don’t engage Neanderthals in debate. If you want to argue specifics, I’d be happy to do so, but I’m betting that you’d rather blast away with your AR-15 loaded with generalities.

        4. Seriously?
          That’s an interesting conceit you have there jammy. If I say something you disagree with politically, it indicates that I’m…touched in some way (I’m using that in the country person sense).
          Obama lies so often and so naturally that it’s comical that even a hardened Democrat cannot acknowledge it. One of the things that Bernie supporters had going for them is that they correctly identified that the dishonesty of their Establishment politicians was a bad, bad thing and they wanted an honest (if evil) politician for a change.
          Obama cannot help but lie. It’s all he knows. There’s no shame in fessing up to this. As a libertarian, I have no qualms about pointing out the liars in the right, as well as the left. It’s healthier that way, to recognize the reality in front of our face.

        5. I talk to him offline. He’s actually a very intelligent man. Consider that when you see his anger online. Lots of really, really angry and intelligent men out here. Believe the “hayseed right winger” thing at your own peril.

        6. You should get onto youtube and watch some of the crazy shit Obama has said in speeches. The most current one is that there isn’t voter fraud..and from a former election there is a speech with him talking about all the voter fraud. Here’s how he feels about due process.

        7. And the emotional liberal resorts to ad hominen attacks. This is why our side is better.
          Why am I even taking the troll bait?
          I support nationalism, fiscal conservatism, self-reliance, lower taxes, law and order, and reading the constitution as it was originally written. Those are the Issues. I am for them, Hillary is against them. That is all that matters to people like me. The fact that he makes liberals crazy is just an added bonus.

      2. Just like dealing with women, so such we must deal with POTUSes. Hear not their words, see only their actions… or lack of thereto.

      3. True, but a direct quote can be taken out of context. The two examples you used, probably don’t need any context, as they aren’t the brightest thing a presidential nominee would say. Look, a man is entitled to his opinion but, why Hillary?

        1. I’ve got issues with her too, mostly about her cozy relationship with investment banks and with her arrogance. Trump is a hundred times worse, so I don’t think I’m voting this November. Truly horrible choices.

        2. If you truly do not like either nominee, vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all. Nobody deserves their vote to be canceled out of spite.

    3. As you say, they have stunted amygdalas. This is proven by science. Why in the hell would you ever want to be around or involved with these types? Even if they are family you have no excuse really.
      They cannot accurately assess reality. They cannot ascertain threats. They are like deer in headlights just sitting there. Frumpy faggots holding hands and singing kumbaya.
      To hell with them!
      I wont be caught near them in any sort of crisis and I sure as FUCK will not help them when the vicious, cruel and unforgiving world they asked for crashes with bloodthirsty violence through their motherfucking doors.
      I want them to receive this world. To open those arms to rapists, murderers and thieves. When they cry, when they stammer and spray their whimpering appeals for help I will not be there. My tribe of strong men will not be there.
      We were busy preparing for reality. Our doors are closed to fucking traitors.
      You had better pick a side and make the appropriate decisions to be outside of the maelstrom that is coming to a city near you.
      I have kicked out of my life everyone who is a liberal faggot. I have cut off any means of mine to support them. I encourage all men to do so. Let these rabbits get the world they deserve!
      The dripping maw of the wolf.

      1. Do you have a link about the stunted amygdalas? I’m big on health, and its clear that the whole healthcare system is just about fraud.

        1. do a search of articles on this site- matt forney wrote about it; if you cant find it here, go to his site, posted there too

        2. Holy shit. So Fluoride=Democrat. Its not hard to show that fluoride isnt what they say it is. Buy some sodium fluoride off ebay, mix it with HCL aka hydrochloric acid(stomach acid). And it will now etch glass. Very very few things eat glass which is why glass is used in labs. What does etch glass is HF or hydrofluoric acid and the fact that our little chemistry class there has etched glass shows its presence. So ingesting sodium fluoride(and likely the fluorosilicic acid they use too) is really creating a bunch of HF. Now get on google and try to find ANYONE ANYWHERE who says that HF is anything but one of the worst substances-don’t touch it, dont touch it, don’t touch it. But drink it in your water, in your beer in your soda, bathe in it, eat it in your wheaties and for good measure brush your teeth with it. Or get on pubmed and search for fluoride, just to see what researchers are finding. It is nothing but “a new way that fluoride is harmful”. Its amazing how its won the publicity war despite losing the actual science war.

        3. +10E6 for the HF chemistry.
          The main sources of food/water additive fluoride is byproducts of aluminum productions and nuclear waste(?!?).

        4. yes this isn’t tested for purity..just taken straight from industial scubbers(Farm to fork!). Looks like boron, and alkaline urine speeds its excretion. Ayurveda says tamarind helps remove it. Places like Jamaica where they have fluoridated water and low soil boron(sugar cane uses up soil boron) also have the highest rates of arthritis in the world. Places like Israel that have naturally high levels of boron in the water have some of the lowest rates(they recently stopped fluoridation). The most consistent symptom of fluorosis seems to be shoulder joint pain.

    4. The meaning of the saying, “scratch a liberal find a tyrant” becomes painfully obvious.

    5. Dude, I’m in an uber liberal area of the US. I have no problem declaring my support of Trump. Yes, people talk to me like I’m an idiot, I’ve been told I should stop thinking like a caveman (wtf does that even mean?), and that “I’m better than that” (to support Trump). And that is from “friends” and some family but…that’s their problem, not mine, fuck em all. I don’t go around wearing a MAGA hat or have bumper stickers because I do believe some random shit stains will fuck with me or my property, so I can understand not showing off to the world. But in your life, your inner circle, your coworkers…they don’t deserve an explanation. Just be proud of your decision and don’t justify it to anyone! With that being said, just be prepared to clear a room and become unpopular (which I like).

      1. This is how it should be done. I also don’t go around wearing a MAGA hat or starting political discussions with people just to talk about Donald Trump, but if somebody does ask me who I’m supporting I tell them the truth. I tell them the truth even though I’m in a heavily liberal cucked city and most will think I’m an asshole.
        Lets be real here. Every time you lie about what you stand for because you’re afraid of being ostracized by idiots, a little piece of your manhood dies. You don’t have to rub your support for Donald Trump in people’s faces, but I’ll be damned if I let some mealy mouthed cunt make me feel ashamed about it.

    1. I don’t buy that as a valid argument though Bob. Wearing pants when out in public is also about social conditioning. But the fact is that wearing pants (and clothes in general) have an actual benefit above and beyond the social pressures that demand it. Stopping for a red light is conditioning too, but it has a *huge* benefit when obeyed by the overwhelming majority of people, and allows for more complex means of travel which benefits everybody.
      Same for manners, politeness and pretty much all of how we act and interact with the world come from social conditioning in one way or another.
      Like it or not, politics does matter. Now whether the leaders come from the great unwashed masses, or some smokey back room, is ultimately irrelevant when measuring the importance of what leaders do (and don’t do) with that power.

      1. You know what, my friend, I don’t agree with everything you expressed here…but I would fight to the death on your behalf, if anybody told you that you didn’t have the right to express your opinion. Because if I didn’t do that – fight for your right to express yourself – I would be establishing a precedent that would one day reach my own doorstep. And on that one, I know we both see eye to eye…

        1. To the death? You would fight to the death for it? I mean I like GOJ and I am glad he has the freedom to say what he wants…but fighting to the death seems extreme.
          I mean, how about fighting until first fall? Or first blood even? I feel fighting to the death is probably a little much in this case

        2. Well, let me modify it. I don’t think that will ever happen. But if it did, that would mean I’d be a hair away from facing a firing squad (or somesuch). So yes, at that point, I’d fight to the death for his cause. Might as well go out swinging, standing next to somebody you share principles with…

        3. I suppose but there are still better ways. How about I would drink and do cocaine off of strippers asses to the death to defend your rights. I mean, if we are to the point where it’s a fight to the death for the right to speak it is pretty sure we are going to lose. Lets go out having some fun

        4. Death by cocaine? NO thank you. How about a couple of lines off of a fine rear end. Enjoy it until the buzz is gone. And save the fighting for the morning

        5. I’m down for either one. But I have to know there are no other options…in which case, back GOJ to the death over free speech, or do coke off strippers asses. Hmm. I would probably try to persuade him to do the stripper thing first, and then, when it was inevitable, do the fight-to-the-death thing…

        6. To quote Doctor Moriarty totally out context
          I can promise you the one…..but not the other!

        7. When my face is in a strippers butt. I’m going to be busy for a while. Im a older guy these things take time

        8. How about I would drink and do cocaine off of strippers asses to the death to defend your rights.

          That would be honorable and I’m humbled that you’d do that. I would, in fact, perform such a sacrifice for you and Bob and most others here as well. We stick together that way.

      2. Is this where I start quoting Jefferson and his tree of liberty?
        Best not and I hope is does not come to that. I have always hoped that the following quote was wrong. But a Trump loss with its flooding of our nation with none American voters, would mean she was right.
        “America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”

  16. Man I just so badly want a trump win, i really think hillary will get much less brown and black people support than obama, and people tht are pro hillary just wont go out becasue they really arent that excited for her

    1. media was saying she’ll have more support from minorities than even obama. but ur right, i highly doubt that.

  17. If you live in Seattle a Trump bumper sticker will earn you vandalism in the night. If you are female or a smaller younger male. You will be openly insulted in some parts of town. Older bigger working men like me. They are afraid of us, so we hear nothing to our faces. But they will hurt you anyway they can behind your back.
    This will make for a lot of surprising support for trump. But is it enough?

    1. No kidding. Tacoma girl here. On the rare occasions I have shared my views I’ve been called every name in the book (ironically always by other women, most men I know actually prefer if not outright support Trump) I’ve given up. But I’ll be sending in my ballot as will many others. Personally I think it’s enough. I don’t know about Seattle proper but here in your liberal little sister city to the south, I haven’t seen a single sign or bumper sticker for her. If she’s that weak in one of her generally guaranteed strongholds imagine the statistics in swing or solid red states. I think we’re in for a happy surprise on Election Day.

      1. I have seen the same thing. There are more old Obama stickers still driving around, than Hilary stickers. No one seems proud to support her. They just hate Trump

      2. Tacoma is a lot more upfront than passive aggressive Seattle. I like Tacoma, but it is as liberal as Seattle. But it is more in a traditional blue collar way. Seattle is elitist

  18. Semi closeted female Trump supporter here. I live in the Seattle area i.e. radical SJW capital of the United States. But I’m optimistic about it, I’ve seen very few Trump signs but not ONE Hillary sign. I think the silent majority will turn out in larger numbers than anyone expects. That’s why the media is running scared and trying to convince everyone that it’s over.

    1. especially with the polls stuff. so they go out and ring 1000 people and report hillary is winning but surely whoever is paying them to do that says “nup, do it again!” until they get the answer they want. It’s all propaganda and lies and hopefully once the dust settles some heads of those responsible will roll..

        1. And how many people are willing to openly poll for trump? Exactly what this article is posting. The silent majority is the key

  19. I don’t like to hear people or the MSM being mean about Trump and if he wins will probably walk a lap of the neighbourhood with a glass of French champagne in my hand and possibly make a few enemies along the way. But until that point, I will not walk around with a Trump baseball cap or Tshirt as much as I would like to just cause it’s not necessary to risk getting beaten up and there’s an extreme left presence where I live. But year if it comes up in conversation with someone who is not a left-wing nutter just middle-level brainwashed, why not admit you support him, not like you’re in some kind of tiny minority there.. If they have a problem with it then they are intolerant.. Anyway am not American so can’t have a say but it’s going to help the rest of the world if and when he makes it over the line..

  20. i wear my trump hat proudly in communist brooklyn. on the street, at the gym, IDGAF. only place i take it off is in restaurants while ordering food, bc i dont want anyone to spit in it. once the food come out, i plop that hat right back on my big ass head.

        1. Haha. Greenpoint is just filled with typical liberal whites and Jews. I live in a Dominican area, granted, most of them are old school and probably don’t give a shit. But I imagine what would happen if someone rocked the hat there

    1. One always removes one’s hat in a restaurant, and indoors in general.
      /miss manners

  21. I am a CTS. I was warned quite specifically that if I didn’t hide my views I would not get certain contracts I was seeking. I did in fact ditch Facebook. And the MSM has lost me forever. Liars, the lot of them.
    I think a lot of us are going “incognito”…..
    See you if I see you. Just remember to check your ballot well before you hit that final submit button. The vote that may be stolen might be your own.

    1. There is actually video of that. Take footage the same way you do when banging a blue hair slut. Keep all records that this is occurring at their consent

  22. This election is the most important of my lifetime. On 1 side you have Hillary – financed by hedge funds and media conglomerates building wealth on corruption and Trump who is rich but built it on buildings and employing people.
    If Americans can’t see this obvious truth than I don’t exactly know where the future of america is going. If its going to be Social Justice Warrior news 365 ..god help us all.

  23. Long time lurker, first time poster. I live right in the middle of downtown Denver Colorado. Very liberal city. I hang out at a lot of trendy spots with dj nights-the kind of places you would find tons of liberal/gay/sjw millennials around my age. Long story short, ended up at an after party full of card carrying hipsters last night. All of them are voting trump. Every single one. Realize that we have allies in very unexpected places. Don’t lose hope gentleman. The tide is turning.

    1. that’s very relieving to hear, was in Breck and Denver myself earlier this summer… and couldn’t place the exact political stance on the state as a whole. I’m Ohioan, drive the country a lot, and it’s Trump/Pence signs almost exclusively in rural areas.

      1. Colorado is similar. Once you are out of the Denver metro it’s all fairly conservative, majority white, gun owning mountain men and ranchers-and vast beautiful empty space. Colorado gets painted as this liberal Mecca but honestly i find people here lean more towards a libertarian view if anything. Hope you enjoyed your time here! Denver and Breck are both a lot of fun

        1. I would venture to say even in Denver, the parity between trump and Hillary is not far off; say a 48-52 where as NYC might be 35-65 Hillary

        2. Absolutely. I feel like a lot of newcomers to this state I’ve met lately are from the Midwest and South-from Knoxville myself. We brought our values along for the ride. It is refreshing to live in a major city and not feel like you are surrounded by the enemy 24/7

        3. I love it out there. Shockingly, discovered +8700ish ft. elevation, I start to get a little hypoxic, short of breath… but only when I stop moving, and in the mornings. Betting elevation sickness wears off after 2-3 weeks.

        4. I lived in a small mountain town called Leadville last year. 10,200 above sea level. Snowed for 9 1/2 months straight!! You do get used to it. Once you get comfortable hiking above 10,000 ft it turns your body into a machine. First time I climbed a 14er(14,000+ft) I got altitude sickness bad when I got above treeline. Doesn’t bother me now but it can be kind of terrifying if you don’t know what it feels like. Made me super clammy, out of breath, and extremely disoriented.

      2. You’re an Ohioan, and we have had a drink together yet? What the fuck dude??? Heh

        1. I know. Toledo cess pooler. The microcystine from swamp Erie has reordered my priorities. Eventually we should, getting some very important life issues straightened out. When time permits, I’ll hit you up.

        2. I’m in brother. Email in my profile, when you get some time, drop me a line.

  24. I remember some left wing chick standing up at a party and saying (in a loud voice), “I refuse to talk to anyone who supports Donald Trump!” I did not want to cause a scene at my friend’s house, because I had more class than her.
    But it’s that kind of classless bullying that pulls people over to the side of Trump.

    1. she obviously thinks her p ussy is gold or something. When she gets a blue pill guy -she can get fat and ugly as nothing is going to make it flutter.

      1. Notice how many of the smokin hotties who haven’t destroyed themselves with a gazillion tatts, blue hair, and farm piercings support Trump? Which girl would any rational man prefer?
        The problem with the male vote is so many men aren’t “male” anymore. Either in mind or body they’ve abandoned masculinity, and when mind and body stray, the soul tends to follow.

      2. She was attractive for American standards (i.e. not fat). But she was NOT feminine. A blue-pilled Western man would think she was a prize, but not a man with international knowledge and skills.

  25. A couple of things. Hillary is not drawing people to the polls where Trump is hitting that “silent majority” button from what I see. I believe there is a major schism brewing in the SJW and Democrat ranks. How many of the fringe band wagon folks are beginning to see the negative effects and bleak end game of the true believers? It will be interesting to see the SJW radicals begin thinning their herd right as the cuckservatives get a whipping from the populist alt-right movement. These two events will provide a saving grace if Trump does not win the election.

    1. Some of the traditional Left bastions are also clearly defecting. Especially unions in the Obama destroyed coal and rust belts.

      1. I am in the heart of all that and see innumerable large wooden hand made “Save America Vote Trump Pence” signs. Ohio minorities will probably go only 75% Hillary with very low turnout. Its happening

        1. Me too, I’m in central Ohio. My minority neighbors (all two of them) are voting Trump.
          And I ask you what I asked GRock, how in the hell haven’t we met up and had a beer yet?

        2. I am out in Appalachia (er) Ohio. In the coming months I will be in Columbus for business and will definitely shoot you an email. No worries

        3. Trump’s winning about 20-25% of the black vote and nearly 40% of the Hispanic vote. Hopefully the sign of positive things to come.

        4. It’s not unreasonable to postulate the existence of undercover black and Hispanic Trumpians.
          Although surely in far fewer number.

        5. I’m pleasantly surprised how many are vocal and out in the open about it. It goes against the narrative and has become a social taboo.

        6. I agree. But the fact that Trump is doing this well with nonwhite voters, especially blacks, is completely unprecedented. It’s quite possible Trump will create a new segment of the Republican party comprised of large percentages of minority groups. What he’s done so far is promising.

  26. Since Bush Sr. we would have done better if we just got a president by random lottery every 4 years.

  27. Some of the most accurate descriptions I ever read regarding this election. The bit comparing trump to the Shakespearean “wise fool” is such art that most msm would be salivating, knuckle dragging ignoramus mongoloids that think they are “educated” with their brain wash gruel filth in comparison.
    Also, I been saying this for a bit now: I rather an idiot with a decent enough platform and ideology over a well trained, murderous, conniving, calculated traitor who is a puppet of even more evil blights of our world

  28. Ah I love Gavin McGinnes….but he hits those liberals with too much logic. Logic ain’t gonna work with those morons – that’s why they’re liberals!

    1. The sad truth is that liberals will continue to dazzle us all with their shrill histrionics, appeals to emotion, ad hominems, and specious arguments until/unless they are met with ineluctable, naked force.

  29. Q: If you are stranded on a desert island with Adolf Hitler, Atilla the
    Hun, and a liberal democrat, and you have a gun with only two bullets,
    what do you do?
    A: Shoot the democrat twice

      1. True. But it will make me feel a bit of catharsis.

        1. It’s red meat for the 70% of the nation that supports this. If he’s genuine or not, he found the formula, and he’ll follow it to retain power. The formula is borders and America first and anti-NWO. If that happens for 8 years, we have time to catch our breath and recover.

        2. That’s the best we can hope for. I have a good feeling about this election despite all the bullshit plauging it.

  30. In today’s society it’s easier to come out as gay than it is to come out as a Trump supporter. My friends and family still think I’m joking when I tell them I’m voting for Trump.

  31. I’ve been a CTS since the early days, since Adam Scott made his predictions back in August 2015 or so. It feels good, like being a ninja or resistance fighter.

  32. Michael Moore of all people seems to admit he will vote Trump.
    Can’t believe I’m saying this but it’s a good speech he makes.

    1. What the fuck? Is this real? Is there a video of this? I have no idea what his voice sounds like in real life. Do you have more?
      A passing web search turns up nothing supporting this. I want to see him saying this live or on video.

        1. I found that same clip and then I lost it. Found it again and tried to post it and it said I was banned from ROK like 20min ago. Now I strangely can post again. I was shitting myself thinking what my new name would be. Some freaky shit going on here tonight.

        2. OT (a little) but I had to post.
          While this article is about undercover Trump supporters what do you make of undercover Hillary supporters?

          Please tell me I’m not alone in wanting this cunt fired from Fox News.
          That should really be the first thing Trump does in office.

        3. I can’t focus well on what she’s actually saying past 1 min or so. Her forked tounge wiggling is distracting and her reptoid shape shifting face keeps me focused rather on whether I’m looking at what I think I’m looking at.
          BUT THIS LADY. Whew she’s downright bad with the crocodial tears.
          https://youtu.be/RKYb-FHYM-A
          It’s so amateur it’s stupid. She probably used the same tear jerk face before administrative boards to get her notches putting her falsely accused campus dates in their place (expelled) while she was back in sociology/journalism/women’s studies. Her tears are such obvious bullshit that only a mercenary enabler would dare use her words to charge ANYONE. But any honest person with common sense would keep their hands clean of her. Bitches like her draw out the REAL enemy in that way. Whoever supplicates or helps her is drawn out as a clear enemy. Girls like her ‘draw fire’ on the enemy in that sense if you keep tabs on types like her and observe who the hacks are that reinforce her.
          In the past, during a domestic situation I was in, this one bitch pulls the same kind of emo shit over and over again. The knee jerks that came running to her aid appeared like normal people outwardly but proved themselves to be anti male shitlibs, the type that are crawling and infesting so many commuties. Once you see and identify them, it’s easy to avoid them and avoid trouble. Cut them off. You walk down your street passing houses and knowing how to say “good neighbor” “bad neighbor” “good neighbor” “good neighbor”.
          Yeah living with a crazy bitch that belly aches and cries out loud draws out the true enemy that otherwise hides in plain sight around you.

  33. His simplified speech is used because it is more effective, as was his grade school name calling(little Marco, low energy Jeb). You can’t argue with his results, hes crushing it considering, the Democrats are against him, the media is against him, the president is against him, and many prominent Republicans are against him. Watch his masterful speech at the Al Smith Charity event and tell me he is an oafish inarticulate person. I especially like how he instantly stops the booing by saying he doesn’t know if the booing is for him or Hillary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmvxx_YbDsM

  34. My spidey sense is tingling, I feel like there will be a blackout of the media’s prerecorded Hillary victory.

      1. I’ve always felt they swing the ban hammer too easily here and on the vforum. Lolknee has been banned, so you are in good company.

        1. The ban notice came outta nowhere. Here I was just saying my normal shit, nothing too out of my character and all of a sudden I couldn’t post for 30 min or so. Then suddenly I could post again. A bug? A monkey on someone’s keyboard randomly doing ‘thumbs down’. SJW’s? I dunno. .

  35. Trump is a persuasive genius. Everything he says is manufactured to shock people into listening and then close them on his ideals.
    Check out author Scott Adams’ play by play interpretation of his strategy.

  36. This could be true have a look at how people who voted for BRexit were treated not surprised they are staying in the closet lets hope they come out when its voting day.

  37. I was CTS for a couple of months into Trump’s campaign before I checked myself and realized what a fucking pussy I was being.
    Our country is on the line. Our incomes are stagnant. Illegals have been pouring in. Our country is on the verge of bankruptcy. The Democrats have now gone past looking the other way while Mexicans cross the border-they are openly importing hostile terrorist cultures from Syria in order to cause discord within our borders. Our healthcare is skyrocketing (insert InsurancePanda spam). Social Justice Warriors have taken over our academics, media, and workplace. I can’t stay silent.
    I just don’t give a fuck about some 25 y/o girl on my FB profile that hates my profile picture and gets offended by my Trump posts. All of the above is on the line. Some of my “conservative” friends have weaseled me out, and that’s fine, I don’t need some fucking virtue-signaling disloyal cucks in my life anymore.
    I’m pretty much completely open about my support for Trump on social media, and everyplace in life besides my new workplace (I believe I was let go from my last leftist den for being the only Trump supporter). I tell everyone I see that I’m supporting Trump and that I am bordeline obsessed with his candidacy.
    And you know what? I still fuck women. I still make money. I still live my life, day-to-day, enjoying what NYC has to offer. Sure, I may dodge a bit when politics comes up on a first date, but let me tell you, every girl I fuck gets the “Trump treatment.” I bone, then I confess that I love Trump, then a rally/interview comes on the telly. If they ghost me, oh well. If they’re OK with it, they have a shot.
    I’m in the top percentile of physical fitness, I’ve trained in hand-to-hand fighting, I own guns. Fuck these liberal bullies. I”ll train and fight them until I die.
    I hope there are tons of CTRs, but I maintain that they are pussies. There is too much on the line not to fight. Our forefathers would be ashamed of them. They led a rebellion against a country/army much larger than them and won. Jesus led a rebellion against the Pharisees and was crucified. Our peers are scared of being shamed on social media. Pathetic.

    1. Good on you. I make a point of letting everyone I work with know I’m voting trump for god emperor. Fuck these liberal pussies. The only power they have is the power we allow them to have. I’m lifting weights, lining up an electrical apprenticeship, and saving up to buy guns and ammo. We will be ready. Living in fear of these people seems totally counterproductive to me.

    2. “I bone, then I confess that I love Trump, then a rally/interview comes on the telly. If they ghost me, oh well. If they’re OK with it, they have a shot.”
      I’d be concerned about fake rapey allegations. “He waited until after we had sex to tell me he was a Trump supporter. RAPE!”

  38. Heard a great metaphor the other day.
    Trump is the Doctor who tells you you’re too fat, lose 100 lbs, and run more you lazy bastard.
    You’re shocked, offended, and literally (Hitler) pissed off….but he’s right.
    Some people can recognize that he’s right and put their emotions aside.
    Some people prefer to wet the bed over their #feelz and pretend it’s Trump’s fault that they’re fat.

  39. Curious because I live about 90 miles from Chicago, but is the author taking steps to avoid any unpleasantness in the city should Trump win?

  40. I’ve told all my black girlfriends in the last year I’m voting for Trump and while I get the usual shocked look at first it has never hurt me at all. In fact, my unapologetic and ballsy attitude about it has led them to rationalize my voting preferences in their hamsterbrains and made them even more lovey-dovey towards me, even if they don’t agreee with it at all.

  41. Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !mj255d:
    On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
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  42. I play a different strategy. I don’t usually express support for Trump, or mention him at all, but I am very vocal about ridiculing Sick Hillary. I like to refer to her casually as “Grandma Pantsuit” and various similar monikers. Let my interlocutors assume I’m a diehard Berniebot if they like. Works just as well with less flak than going full Trump.

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