The Doctor Who Was Dragged Off The United Airlines Flight Reacted In The Worst Way Possible

It’s very close to Easter and it seems that America needs a Christ-like martyr. He came this week in the form of a doctor “dragged” off a United Airlines flight before it departed Chicago for Louisville, Kentucky. In classic US airline style, the flight had been overbooked and United sought four volunteers to vacate their seats in favor of extra staff members. When these could not be found, the man and three others were asked to leave.

What ensued in the cabin was a complete farce. The Asian man claimed he was a doctor and that he needed to be at work the following morning. Whilst I would sympathize with him if he didn’t have the past I will describe below, airlines can legally coerce randomly-selected passengers to leave overbooked planes. Before this happens, they typically try offering flight vouchers, hotel stays, and cold hard cash to secure volunteers. Even if through some technicality they did not have such a right this time, the man resisting Chicago Department of Aviation security officers was an incredibly dumb decision:

When the man refused to get up and walk off the plane, the officers intervened and pulled him from his seat. He had no intention of complying and positioned his body in such a way that he ended up bloodied, before being dragged off the plane. Bizarrely, he returned and started clinging to the cabin, asking if someone would “kill” him. The public reaction, as far as I can tell, has been overwhelmingly negative and vehemently against United Airlines and law enforcement. Yet more attention should be paid to the man’s choice to go limp, exactly the sort of behavior that leads to physical pain.

The reasons behind his erratic behavior onboard also need to be explored. It turns out the man, David Dao, is a previously disbarred medical practitioner who nearly went to jail for giving prescription drugs to a man in return for gay sex. Some have suggested he is now only allowed to practice medicine sparingly, perhaps indicating why he was so desperate to stay in the cabin. It is hard to feel sympathy for a man who has acted like this during his professional history and then complains that a probably perfectly legal decision to remove him is “unfair.” Had he not traded prescription drugs for sex and gotten into such disrepute, in all likelihood the ejection from the plane would have affected him minimally. I also question his state of mind and whether the level of inconvenience alleged is real.

Whatever your opinion on United’s (or the authorities’) handling of the matter, this man represents yet another person who decides to place themselves at a risk of injury and then complains when the likely or inevitable injury follows. Any grievance he had with the airline or the powers that be should have been followed up once he exited the plane. If an instruction you receive is unfair but apparently legal, deliberately injuring yourself by refusing to comply is immature and unnecessary.

A good way to illustrate the avoidable nature of this saga is by comparing it to scenarios where a passenger, whilst feeling a decision is unfair, respects it anyway. This anti-Trump woman may have behaved appallingly, but, to her credit, at least she eventually complied with both the airline staff and police and left the plane:

If everyone behaved like this when they didn’t get their way on planes or at airports, the police and security would be occupied 24/7

Planes, airports, and airlines often cause massive inconveniences. I’ve been diverted to different continents or been burned by hot drinks, missing important meetings, assessment dates, and other deadlines (or having an area perilously close to my genitals seething with pain for hours). Time and again I have observed people overreacting to their own situations, including to the point of, like the man in the United video, inflicting injury on themselves by resisting officials. I may have been angry in my own circumstances, but never have I felt the desire to disobey legal commands from those who can enforce them or get others to.

There is no doubt that overbooking is a much more common phenomenon in the United States than Europe or Australia. I am far from a fan of any American airline and most of the time will simply refuse to fly with them. But the contracts through which airline tickets are bought explicitly give airlines the right to bump customers from flights. And again, even if the right to eject passengers from overbooked flights does not exist here, physical resistance only aggravates the circumstances.

For the sake of good customer relations and common courtesy, I agree that United should have bumped passengers before boarding took place. Nonetheless, this does not condone the man’s resistance and the rather juvenile (mentally ill?) way he returned to the cabin. No airline in their right mind would allow a man saying “please kill me” to remain on an aircraft waiting to depart.

Some of the law enforcement taking him off were black and Hispanic

Allegations of “racism” have attached themselves to this airline incident. But from what I saw in the video, some security officers were black or Hispanic, indicating if any racism existed it would be minority-on-minority. With 30% of Americans being minorities, and an even higher percentage of tourists flying to and within America being minorities, the chances of a non-white being randomly bumped off a flight are probably around three or four in ten. If an Asian man being asked to leave an overbooked plane is the litmus test for racism, with zero evidence proffered that race was actually a factor, I have great concerns for how people will deal with such events in the future.

Another part of the problem is that the actions of police and security officers are viewed as “illegitimate” and “oppressive” far too often, encouraged by a biased media that takes one snippet of video from something like a police shooting and then generalizes an accusation across all manner of other unrelated incidents that take place later. When people refuse to follow instructions and physically resist, they and others see the case as one of martyrdom. “It’s unfair, I don’t like it, so I will not obey” is the mantra of many a person who could prevent their own victimization simply by backing off, complying, and seeking legal remedies through the appropriate channels afterwards.

Why didn’t other people—non-doctors—volunteer to leave?

If we assume that the reports of the man being a doctor who needed to perform surgery are true, why didn’t someone else volunteer to leave? People gladly whipped out their phones to record the spectacle and then virtue-signal online, but none seemingly had the foresight to realize that their own non-essential business could wait when United were calling for volunteers.

In addition to the man’s antics, his fellow passengers were not selfless enough to get out of their seats but suddenly became Good Samaritans when the chance to visually record things and speak to newspapers presented itself. I may believe that airline overbooking should be made illegal, but deciding to get yourself injured over it is nothing short of moronic.

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628 thoughts on “The Doctor Who Was Dragged Off The United Airlines Flight Reacted In The Worst Way Possible”

    1. Learn Greek, come here, enter the Greek forum-o-shpere….
      You’ ll be saying similar things every day for the next two years. Although what that slut did really shocked me!

        1. “there are only 70 male porn stars and 10,000 female porn performers.”
          This is definitely the most interesting thing I will read today.

        2. The three of us could honestly start our own Japanese VR porn company.
          A German, a Canadian, an American, and 10,000 thirsty Japanese girls…

      1. How many other Greeks are there like you who are red-pill minded? I’m not just talking about alpha negatives with a bmw and the club lifestyle, I mean men who want a future for Greece and its people? I met about four or five when I was there, from several shop owners to a boat driver on the islands. Are there enough, or would it be possible to spread the red pill among the men there? IE nationalist birther movement.

        1. First a small history lesson n Greece’s modern times! Trust me it is needed to answer your question.
          During the duration of WWI Greece was a the verge of a civil war between the king, who represented the conservative Greeks and Eleftherios Venizelos, who represented the progressive-liberals of the time (they were closer to libertarians than modern day liberals). Venizelos’s platform was one that favoured the short term ambitions of his followers, while the king’s was physiocrasy: keeping things as they are. The king also was German and as such would normally have entered on the side of Germany, but with the Ottoman Empire on the side of the central powers he decided for Greece to stay neutral during the war, on the other hand Venizelos, as the man of the English, wanted for Greece to join the war on the side of the Entente.
          The breaking point was the establishment of an illegal Venizelean government on Thessaloniki, thus breaking the country into two parts. This was come to known as “The national breaking” Εθνικός διχασμός mind you that dichasmos means the breaking between two parts implying that it happened between oposite positions and both sides were fanatical. A small note here: even Venezelean families in Greece today blame all the ordeal to Venizelos himself, NOT the king! This is important due to what followed: the Entente powers were invited by Venizelos to blockade and bombard Athens headed by the French. This ended with the establishment of Venizelos in Athens ruling Greece a bit more years, taking some islands with the help of the winners of the war and causing the Minor-asian catastrophe, when Greece basically failed to conquer Turkey, by starting a war making elections during it’s peak for a government headed by the king to have the fallout which ended badly. Venizelos escaped the blame left for France wher he made his only positive contribution to the nation: an outstanding translation of Thucededes’s Historiae to modern Greek of his time period though.
          So what from all that mess? Simple the effects of the national breaking were solidified! This lead to the creation of a platform: the anti-Greek platfrom: it’s affect was the ability to have a place in Greek politics for an anti-Helenic party (ανθεληνικό κόμα anthelliniko koma) which looks to satisfy the short term goals of it’s voters. After the liberals of Venizelos (phileleftheroi φιλελεύθεροι) it was for George Papandreou’s Sr Union of the centrists (Enosi kentroon Ένωση Κεντρώων), the for his son Andreas Papandreou’s Pan-Hellenic Socialist Party/Movement (Pasok ΠΑΣΟΚ Πανελλήνιο Σοσιαλιστικό Κόμα/Κίνημα) they changed at some time the meaning of the last abreviation. Today after the fal of the Pasok the place is filled by SYRIZA (Συνασπισμός Ριζοσπαστικής Αριστεράς = Coalition of the Radical Left).
          These parties have at any given time an access to the 1/3 of the Greeks, SYRIZA was voted in with a 35% of the voters. The other 2/3 are cut to some equal parts of: indifferents and patriots. Both are morons so don’t expect much from them. The sad truth is that one third of Greeks live or want to live parasitically on the other 2/3 from which the half of both groups don’t understand that. The patriots consider that no Greek will ever harm another Greek while the indifferents want to go on with their lives they give no appreciation to the political siuation. If you are European the money that are being send to Greece is so that this 1/3 will be able to continue living parasitically over his brethren and now on the rest of Europeans.
          From around my age most people are: either indifferent or support the left. I must say though that this might have to do with class as I am part of the upper middle class, whose offspring are a bit more protected. Still few Greeks are red-pilled in the meaning that they believe in their country two decades of PASOK made our patriotism a joke and in the end a problem to be solved. The only good thing that I hear is that the there is noted a return to the Church, by all means not a perfect institution but at the very least not an anti-Greek one. The reason why I cannot explain as in the university I had to hide my beliefs to be taken seriously.
          I start to procrastinate so I will be brief: the one third of Greeks unknowlingly and uncaring are against Greece. The one third won’t care for it as long as their arses are still comfortable and the last one third is caring for it even if unknowlingly it cannot move against the people who destroy it from within. To illustrate the problem last year they asked if we consider immigration a problem: 45% answered yes, for comparison in Europe this fluctuates between 58% to 65%. In previous years it was only a megre 34%. Now to answer to you clearly why this happens I will have to write a whole article as the national breakup explains the premise BUT not the magnitude in short it’s the left’s culture here. So all in all something happens but for the time being there are no parties that are pro-Greek in a serious way and electable, GD is stuck in 7%.

        2. Damn shame that is. So few red-pilled men, quality of women is low, although beautiful (but ruined by leftist degeneracy, sluttery, piercing & tattoo worship, drugs etc), general malaise by 1/3 of its people, and very few pro-Greek actual Greeks.
          At least you all have your own resource supplies right? Food and such? The agriculture industry is pretty alive there still and free of GMO’s and western chemicals if I heard correctly? You can live off the land if you do it right?

        3. Women here have a character problem, tattoos here are only basic and piercings too and not that common. I said that the 1/3 of Greeks are pro-greek but fail to notice the ones that are Greek but are against Greece. In general though from white, orthodox Eastern European immigrants the possibility of them to be pro-greece is higher, why I don’t know.
          Food is organic, no gmos but still we need to import, though this happens mostly from Europe so again no gmos. You can live off the land if you go to a village, in cities forget it, they are overpopulated.

    2. This woman is not German. She can go to gulag with all other mudcamel-fucker lovers.

  1. I thought the guy was unconscious or at least dazed when he was getting dragged. I don’t give a damn honestly. If the airline demanded that he get out of the seat then he should have complied.

    1. In a suprising twist, a webpage that is supposed to be about freedom and non-compliance with stupid majority rule, suddently claims that “refusing to comply is immature and unnecessary”.
      And the readers follow where their masters point to. You really are cattle, aren’t you, people?

        1. Offer actual cash money, as much as it took to get a volunteer. Offer a limo and driver for the ~6hr ride to Louisville by road. (I accepted cash and a bus ride once…)
          Offer to provide a rental car (I’ve jumped on this once when a flight was delayed)
          Drive their employees to Louisville, get them on another airline or charter flight if available.

        2. I could see doing an auction. Have a stewardess stand up in front of coach and keep raising the bid until someone raises their hand.

        3. I’ve had companies make mistakes, it happens. The measure of a company is how they deal with them when they occur.

        4. A couple weeks ago, I got a jacuzzi suite at this hotel for my wife and I. They double booked the room, and could not find another jacuzzi suite in the area. So, they have me a normal room at half price. It was a little irritating, but not worth fighting over. Or perhaps I could have thrown a fit like this guy so the cops would come and throw me out?

        5. Well it’s one of those — ok, what can they realistically do right now? Guy at the desk didn’t create the situation.
          If you’re upset, you can still write a letter to the company, praise the desk guy for doing the best he could, but requesting company do more to make up for the mistake. Refund, a room in the future etc.

        6. Is that any worse than sticking your dick in any of those cum dumpsters you find at any nightclub? At least the STD’s are killed in the Jacuzzi.

      1. There was no way to win it at that moment, regardless. When he ran back onto the aircraft – WTF? Like they were going to say “aw, well, jeez, go ahead then.” Guy’s not all there.

      2. It’s a private business. It has a right to refuse services to someone. I’m certain if I were in the same situation, I would have gotten off the plane.

        1. They have responsibilities under the contract, which spells out specific reasons they are allowed to refuse transport to a boarded passenger. To provide transport for their own employees isn’t one of them.

        2. Then you sue them civilly after the fact. They’ll settle because it’ll be much cheaper for them to settle than go to court on it.

        3. Exactly. I think the guy was right to refuse to deboard based on the contract (sometimes failing to invoke rights under a contract can be deemed a waiver of them). But should have left quietly with security, then filed a suit.

        4. Right. If you start making application of force a requirement for compliance for every perceived injustice then western society will turn into Southside Chicago overnight. That’s why strong and consistent contract laws should be enforced.

        5. “I were in the same situation, I would have gotten off the plane.”
          that’s exactly kinda my point – god knows how many hundreds of people did the same thing as you would, silently walk out of the plane after airline screwed up.
          It took as much as this very deranged man desperately clinging to his job to generate such publicity as we see now.
          The point is, we are not defending the poor guy and his approach. We are hatin’ the airline for even having policies that allow something like this.
          I’m certain they can generate enough incentive to get real volunteers in emergency cases such as this, they just fail to do that to save some puny $.

      3. What about the freedom of the other passengers and the airline, this guy doesn’t own the plane because he bought a fucking ticket.

  2. I would like to see some further conversation about “overbooking” (i.e. selling a ticket for a seat that may or may not exist). It makes some sense from a business standpoint and on paper, but it does strongly resemble fraud.
    Not saying he wasn’t a problem, or that United’s escalation was warranted, or anything of the sort. It’s just that this situation exposes a not-uncommon practice that might need reevaluation.

    1. The airline industry has had 50 fucking years of subsidies, bailouts, and backbending by lawmakers to figure that shit out. Fuck them. Let the decrepit old hags die and replace them with Virgins, Alaskas, and Southwests.

  3. There is a difference between an overbooked flight not allowing you to board, and dragging someone off a plane. Couldn’t they count at the check-in desk?
    I’m sure they could have found someone to leave cattle class in return for a hotel and first class the next day. The airline was just wrong. Doesn’t matter what sort of person the passenger was unless you take the police attitude, he was black so we can shoot him.

    1. Technically, the issue wasn’t that the flight was overbooked. United had a crew of pilots/stewardesses that needed to get somewhere to crew a flight the next morning or something. So they wanted to remove 4 passengers who had already paid and boarded in order to move their own crew.

      1. 25 minutes between boarding and take-off, and they make a big change in that window …….. sounds unlikely. I do around 20 flights a year, usually only minutes between the last passenger entering and the plane pulling back.

        1. It isn’t something they can predict. The crew they expected to be ready in Louisville was not there because their plane did not arrive, hence the need to bus four people there on the last flight of the day. Hell, they could have loaded them on overnight busses and made it, perhaps.

        2. I do about 20 flights a week. You guys think everything is so simple. A lot goes into an airline operation and there are quite a few scenarios that can make things complicated. When I hear about these easy fixes from passengers, it makes me laugh.

        3. I’ve been called 5 minutes prior to departure to cover flights. It happens all the time and the problem is becoming worse. It’s all part of the cheap American business model.

        4. It’s their plane and you check the Agreement box when you purchase your ticket. Maybe you should read it sometime. Regardless, when the cops show up, you do what they say. What, that’s just for poor, black and male? It’s for everyone.

        5. It’s about the perception. No matter how “hard” it is for airlines, stuff like this looks bad and nobody will understand. Paying customers want solutions. They’re not interested in your problems.

        6. What I see here is that the airline had a problem and decided the passengers had to pay for it.

        7. Indeed because in the USSA everyone follows orders. That’s what freedom is all about comrade.

        8. People are lucky to fly on a jet across the country for a few hundred bucks. Spoiled brats. It’s as good as it’s going to get. You want 7 flights to chose from on July 21st from New York to Orlando, there’s gonna be an occasional problem. I have absolutely no sympathy for non contributing complainers.

        9. Pretty much. They figured it’s better to piss off only four passengers instead of a whole plane load the next morning. Didn’t quite work out that way tho.

        10. Yeah fuck the customers and their fucking complaints. They think just because they pay for something they can have it? Fucking pricks. We run our company how we want and if people don’t like it they can just fuck off. Ungrateful cunts.

        11. Yeah, I think that if you’ve got to the point of having to force passengers off the plane you’ve really got problems. To me this speaks to bad management. Probably they’ve got away with it in the past but this shines a light on it. How comfortable can you really feel now that you are safe in your seat after the doors have closed!
          I never liked United but if I have a choice I’ll probably avoid them now.

        12. Yeah, fucking aerospace. Everything should work perfectly all the time, nothing should ever break. Build me a space shuttle that can travel 500 knots, I expect it to function perfectly at all times. And I expect the governing agency to be extremely leanient when it comes to flying an aircraft with inoperative components detrimental to the safety of flight. I also expect the pilots to risk their certificates and their careers so I can get drunk at my cousins house in St. Louis.

        13. You probably shouldn’t work in a customer driven industry. You resent the people that pay your bills too much.

        14. Me too. I will NEVER give my business to these fucking rude and retarded airlines.

        15. Everyone’s free to fly with another airline, which appears to be what’s happening.

        16. He’s one of those cucks who enjoys getting fucked in the ass. Thank you sir may I have another!

        17. Yep. Hey customer, you’re going to be held to every line in this contract, but we’re gonna breach it whenever its convenient for us. Don’t like it, well if we need the seat — you’re gonna get beat.

        18. He needs to be flying the non-whining cargo. Maybe FedEx, UPS or DHL express. Although they do expect their crews to understand the company exists to serve the customers paying for that cargo to get to the destination on time.

        19. Yeah so long as he doesn’t jettison it to make room for his Duty-Free shopping.

        20. so its you doing the chemtrail stuff? I knew it!! Wait till I send Eddie Bravo and Alex Jones to your house!!

    2. From what I now think I understand, they offered up to 800$ and a hotel stay for those that left the plane. He claimed he needed to get back to see patients but I think that was probably BS. If it wasn’t, then I wonder why no one else on the plane offered to take his place? $800 extra pocket cash rents a pretty good hooker, or at least some really awesome dinner that night in the room. I might also have bargined for first class or whatever United passes for first class the next day.
      However, I am of the opinion that businesses should have the right to refuse service to anyone, as long as they are in compliance with whatever contract they have. I think there are disclaimers on airline tickets that they can toss you off for whatever their needs are.

      1. Businesses can act in a Laissez-faire manner when they don’t have a 50 year history of suckling off the government teat. Until then, fuck their supposed right to toss you.

      2. Because they didn’t offer cash, they offered those damn near useless future travel vouchers. Some of which are pretty limited in actual terms of usage.
        UA should have offered actual cash, and a limo and driver to Louisville.

        1. Oh, well no wonder. I once upgraded to first class on a flight to go white water rafting in Idaho. We had to wait 4 hours for the next flight but it was well worth it. Made the trip back though kinda crappy by comparison.

        2. I gotta agree that airlines should be made to offer cash in addition to a hotel stay if the next flight is overnight. No vouchers.

        3. Well, assuming the Dr, isn’t a total lying flake– a huge leap of faith– and really needed to be in Louisville by the am, driving was a real option ~6hrs.

        4. Good only on United, off-peak, nontransferable, valid for only one year, and no residual value (if you use it on a flight worth less than $800, it’s used up). I’d prefer a carton of smokes.

        1. I never heard of a whore (or coke dealer) that accepted nontransferable vouchers.

    3. Airlines persistently over book. Usually it doesn’t cause a problem, and if it does it’s resolved at check in – usually with a sweetener thrown in. I have the impression that this seems to happen more on US internal flights than on most of the travelling I do – though it did happen to me in Europe recently. I find it hard to imagine how United could have handled this worse – short of shooting the guy.

    4. It wasn’t an overbooked flight. UA’s CEO has even admitted it.
      They were making room for aircrew and bumping an already boarded passenger. That isn’t a situation spelled out in the Rule 21 ‘Refusal to Transport’ for removing a passenger.

      1. Their plane their rules. His problem is with Chicago PD now. United didn’t rip him off that plane, they did. Good luck with that.

        1. He’s a UA shill. Don’t mind him. They’re just trying to do some damage control.

        2. Wrong. When you buy a seat, that’s YOUR seat. You’ve essentially leased that space out. The owner of a house you are leasing can’t just violate the terms of the lease whenever they feel like it. Should be the same thing when you lease that space on an airplane.

        3. And interestingly enough, the UA pilot union is protesting the treatment of this passenger. I just watched the video incidently. The man was being calm. He was just refusing to leave.

    5. They are allowed to ask him to leave for any reason that they want. He agreed to that in the terms of the contract for buying his ticket.
      Grow up.
      Next.

      1. No. UA’s contract of carriage spells out specific reasons UA is allowed to bump a passenger that has been boarded. Bumping him for UA employees isn’t spelled out as one of them.
        UA’s contract of carriage Rule 21 C references weather, wars, riots, –things beyond UA’s control for the flight. Nothing about those things affecting other flights. So, kind of questionable as to whether they can bump him for issues related to some other flight/airplane.
        Now, always bad to argue/fight with security. It’s a civil matter arguing over whether UA is in breach of contract.

        1. I’ll try and make this as clear as possible.
          Everything you said may be true.
          BUT
          This doctor acted like an utter jackass and a child. The correct adult thing to do would have been to get off, and then sue the airline. Normally, with dignity, like an adult.
          We are creating and tolerating a society of children in adults bodies (I don’t mean pedo, you pre-vert, heh).
          We can debate contracts and rights and responsibilities in good faith. But to defend this idiot who really made things way worse than they had to be, no matter how wrong the airline was, doesn’t seem proper.
          The man grew up never being taken behind the barn for a little attitude adjustment now and then. He should know better and not go into feminine histrionics and fits like this when there are better ways to get your just deserts.

        2. Condemning the airline is not necessarily the same as defending the guy who got tossed.

        3. Oh, I agree about his conduct once security showed up. Quiet compliance, and then up to the gate agents to do what they could. He was not going to win/litigate this on the plane.
          Limo and a driver would have been a good compromise. I’d have settled for a rental car– but I like driving.

        4. Sure. But the escalation was all on the dude. This could have been handled way more easily. When people escalate shit to the point where this kind of things happen, I don’t give them a break either. He acted like a total pussy little bitch.

        5. See? There you go, perfectly reasonable suggestions. I would have made this into some fine payoff, like you say.
          What I would not have done is turn into a 4 year old female baboon like he did.

        6. Right. Like arguing with cops and/or waiters…..they ALWAYS get the last laugh…
          Take it up later.

        7. My rule is I never complain to the guy on the desk who
          1. Didn’t create the situation
          2. Doesn’t have the authority to resolve it
          I’d have told the gate agents to put me on the phone to the person who could make the decision on getting me to Louisville by the morning. Thank you. I want to yell, if I’m going to yell, at the person who can actually make things right.

        8. Yep. One of the first things you learn if you’re a political activist, is that you don’t try your case by the roadside. You let them abuse your rights as much as they want (short of some obvious things like trying to kill you or whatever) and you later take their ass to court and sue them out of a job.

        9. Reason to bump is irrelevant when a passenger becomes “unruly.” When a situation has escalated you begin to look at other things, for example; safety of flight and the well being/comfort of the other passengers. The pilot in command of the aircraft has the authority and responsibility to boot someone’s ass off the plane if he sees fit. Safety first. If you’re acting like an asshole and thank god we haven’t taken off yet, I’m kicking your ass off the plane while we’re still on the ground and not regretting keeping you on while we’re in the air.

        10. They might lose in the end when it goes to court. They won’t lose in the beginning though.

        11. There we go, word from an actual airline pilot. That’s what I thought. Maybe the initial “leave” was contractually incorrect, but his escalation put him beyond the legal pale. They kick people off now for stuff way less serious than this.

        12. Yeah, and that reason is spelled out very clearly in the contract.
          UA’s problem is– that isn’t why they were bumping him. They were bumping him to make room for their own employees.
          He only got unruly after they decided to bump him.

        13. “Maybe the initial “leave” was contractually incorrect, but his escalation put him beyond the legal pale”
          There.

        14. The other thing it did was, it completely negated any ability for him to try and negotiate by remaining calm. I.E. try and talk them into offering more to find another volunteer etc.
          Once he’d lost his shit, there was no way they could reverse their decision or find another option.

        15. He’s gonna win in the end though. I don’t think United could give him enough General Tsos to prevent him from taking this to court.

        16. Actually, I think they’ll do a good job of inserting doubt about him winning in court based on the Rule 21 c. Given has history, he may jump on a lower payoff to get it quickly.

        17. Exactly. That customer is always right mantra doesn’t apply when safety, security and health issues are at stake.

        18. But…but…feelings and sensationalism GOJ…pathos is the order of the day, how dare you bring in logos or have any questions at all for that matter…no soup for you!

        19. Exactly. Imagine you’re sitting in the cockpit. The flight attendant approaches the door. “Hey the guy in 8A is pissed off and yelling.” You don’t even ask why because you don’t care. Your response is, “really? Yelling? Like actual yelling?” Then you stand up and see for yourself. It fails the eye test. The next step is to call airport ops immediately and have him removed from the airplane.

        20. “I cant deal with situations like that. Things get all escalated and bam i knock someone out”.

          Mike tyson mysteries.
          ..

        21. I don’t believe in either of those mantras. One is for corporatists, the other for communists.

        22. I do have a question, if you find yourself in this guys situation, what do you think is the best way to handle it, if you want to keep your seat, besides not yelling and being a general asshole acting chinkerish?

        23. But I bought my plane ticket so I own the plane now, I am enttiled to my flight, HAHAHHA

        24. So its kinda like a traffic ticket….you simply agree and be polite THEN fight it in court…not while the cop has pulled you over. Duh.

        25. Ultimately, I think what is in the contract is irrelevant. This action, rightly or wrongly is horrifying to witness and is a public relations nightmare for UA. This could finish them.

        26. If you are going to have a policy of throwing off paying and contractually compliant passengers, sooner or later you are going to wind up in this situation (i.e. someone who loses his shit and doesn’t want the pay for the consequences of your fuck ups). This was a foreseeable circumstance and warrants a significant change of policy.
          There are no shortage of people who overreact to stimulus. Is choosing the nuclear option of forceably dragging them off the plane ideal? Not sure. But by anticipating this problem, at a minimum, you would want trained personnel who know how to deal with aggressive and irrational people, and can convince them to leave the plane without violence.
          I can only imagine that now the stress level of people entering planes will now be increased, which in turn increases the likelihood of people panicking and overreacting again in the future.

        27. Having view several versons of the video, it appears that he only “lost his shit” once he was attacked, unjustly in my view. How easy is it not to “lose your shit” when you’re being attacked?

        28. Not saying it was easy, but unfortunately, once you do you lose a lot of leverage. Its like GoJ talking about maintaining frame. Ever hear Bill Burr talking about dealing with customer service on the phone, it’s like they’re trying to drive you into losing your shit by yelling and cussing to give them an excuse to hang up on you.

        29. True. I once ordered a pizza and the girl on the end wanted an argument with me about pork vs bacon. I asked for bacon and she said “so we’ll put pork on your pizza”. I said “no I want bacon”. She claimed that they are the same thing (obviously in an antagonistic mood). Well they’re not but I took a deep breath and said “whatever you want to call it just make sure its on my pizza!”

        30. My thought exactly. He basically got humiliated in public by the way he was acting. I heard him scream like a little bitch too lol. Basically he should have walked out because the guy was still being filmed by other passengers. Walk out and then sue with dignity still intact.

        31. You’re absolutely right, but if he had gotten off the plane and then tried to sue the airline he would have gotten NOTHING.
          Now, he’s going to get MILLIONS.

      2. It’s a question of boarding priority. Crew movements are normally among the highest, and until the main cabin door closes, it’s fair game, unfortunately. The shitty scheduling departments abuse that pretty well.

      3. You are the last person I thought would merely quote the status quo and pass it off as logic.
        Your mistake was thinking there was a good guy and bad guy here. Everyone sucks in this story. The Chicago PD, the airline, and this faggot chink.

        1. Gooks are korean. I call the vietnamese after what their langauge sounds like: ducks/quacks

        2. However in Vietnam, the American soldiers also referred to the Vietnamese as gooks.

    6. The passenger capacity problem here lies with the regional airline performing the flight on behalf of United. In fact most of United’s regional carriers are incredibly understaffed. The schedulers are young, low-paid, and high-turnover. This leads to a lot of delays and last-minute additions of crews to the passenger list. The people working in ops and scheduling cannot even see 15 minutes in front of their own noses.

    7. They made three offers, all the way up to $800 and a room at the Airport Marriott. Only three people did the right thing. they still needed a fourth. this guy provoked this and the video has surfaced. He’s no victim and the other passengers are as despicable as he is.

      1. Good only on United, off-peak, nontransferable, valid for only one year, and no residual value (if you use it on a flight worth less than $800, it’s used up). I’d prefer a carton of smokes.

      2. He ‘provoked this’ by quietly sitting in his seat, which he had paid in full for. Wow, you really are a cucked faggot.

    8. Exactly ! Trying to just imagine a “local person” in place of the Chinese !! Also why only that MAN has been chosen to “volunteer or drag off” !!

    9. Nope. You can’t tell until EVERYONE IS SEATED on the plane, because it is common for people to check in and not make it through security, forget a passport, have an invalid document that doesn’t get caught until later, change flights, miss connecting flights, get drunk at the airport bar and miss their flight. Just far too many factors to determine it by then.
      Plus this guy took an offer for $800 to give up his seat, then he reneged on it after he found out he wouldn’t get to the destination same day. And the passenger isn’t black, he is vietnamese or something, or are all non-whites black to you now?

      1. Read the reports yourself, I don’t have the patience to argue with an upperty nigger.

    1. …who is gonna get a multi-million dollar payout. god bless america

    2. Negan exemplifies master morality.
      He’s actually incredibly fair and just but Rick and the rest of them keep trying to plot and kill him behind his back.

    3. News / Media “leaves out” lot of “altered/false” information !! No surprise if the Media “leaves out” news that this Chinese person is a “Russian spy” !
      Indeed, what such people deserve… !

  4. Wtf is wrong with this corporate grovelling author … He didnt get “himself injured”, he was injured by low i.q thugs with guns.
    This also shows what a bunch of pussified sheep the passengers really are. Allowing thugs to attack, injure & drag people off for something they paid for, is as illegal as it gets.
    Fuck this corporate grovelling nonsense.
    Learn some martial arts & citizen arrest the cockfuckers.

    1. […] something they paid for
      But the possibility of getting bumped *is* part of what he paid for. It’s spelled out very clearly in the contract the customer engaged in with the airline.
      Learn some martial arts & citizen arrest
      You’re not going to win this way. If there is a problem to be addressed here, the only possible ways to proceed are either convince the airline to change their policies or through legislation.

      1. Getting bumped to make room for aircrew for some unrelated flight isn’t in the UA Contract of Carriage.

        1. I’d be surprised to learn that they would have required themselves to spell out the reason for the bump. Or even have a reason at all.

        2. When you buy a ticket with an airline, you’re actually entering into a contract.
          I’m well aware. That’s why I responded in the manner I did to the gentleman that suggested violence was the appropriate remedy.
          What I hadn’t done yet is actually read the contract. Skimming through the relevant sections, I can see the beginnings of the various arguments that will be made by attorneys for the two parties. It’ll be interesting to see how this unfolds if it gets to a court. (Although, I suspect we’ll be deprived of such a visible resolution, as the corporation is much more likely to settle and get this out of the public consciousness quickly.)

        3. Airline will cite Rule 21 C, ‘situation beyond UA’s control’. But the situation involved an entirely different flight and there were alternatives to bumping the pax.
          Not a lawyer, but I’m guessing due to publicity and the risks of a big award this will be settled out of court.

        4. I really don’t care. The lesson learned (by millions of people) is to avoid United if at all possible.

    2. What’s missed here is that there is no “right to resist” when ordered off of a plane by cops, no matter how stupid and wrong the order is. The guy is an aspie by the sounds of it, but had he complied he’d be fine. Then he could sue just as easily.

      1. it cost United a couple hundred million so far. I’m sure the stockholders appreciate United insisting on its rights.

    3. Agreed! The author is sucking corporation dick.
      seriously, how hard would it be to raise the limit of auction to $5k dollars? its only 9 passengers out of 10k. plus, it would rarely reach $5k.
      The asian man put on some theatrics all-right, but United airlines fucked big time.
      Also: the information about the past on this man is almost-certainly a tactic by United Airlines of cleaning their name up, and this author is swalloing it up.

  5. This is why I take the bus. People are more than happy to take a voucher in order to get off Greyhound

    1. Used to be the bus people were the biggest losers. Then flying got cheap; busses ain’t so bad nowadays.

      1. Buses aren’t so bad until you sit next to some MOVE member that tries to kiss you.

  6. The cops work for us, they don’t work for corporations to enforce their policies or make up for their own incompetence. You either stand up for yourself (individual rights over everything) or you roll over and obey an unjust order because someone with a uniform “volunteered” you. Flight wasn’t overbooked, by the way. If more people told the authorities to fuck off *and* meant it *and* were willing to take/give a beating over shit like this a long time ago, maybe we wouldn’t see our rights being slowly eroded away, or rising militarism among law enforcement.

    1. I don’t understand how the left and right cannot get together to fix policing and the war on drugs/industrial prison complex in this country. We need to get rid of the small horde of bootlickers who keep supporting these thugs trampling over citizens.

      1. To me it’s not a left or right issue. You are either for individual liberty or you are for collective tyranny

    2. The cops in actuality work for the elites and the power system. They could care less about protecting the people.

      1. Only because we’ve ceded that control to the elites, we refused to be vigilant in favour of cheap entertainments and diversions
        I more and more see that only a highly trained citizens militia, of the kind Machiavelli advocates in his art of war can safeguard our liberty. Police are indoctrinated to believe that citizens are their enemies, and we need to protect ourselves and communities against these mercenaries – cops easily make 6 figures in my jurisdiction, don’t tell me they aren’t mercs by a different name.

        1. Good luck with a militia like that ever happening. They’ll be arrested and in jail long before they’d be able to do anything significant.

        2. You’d be surprised. 15% of the fighting age population is the historical average for successful insurrections.

      2. That sounds like a Marxist analysis. There are upright and corrupt people in most every profession.
        Also, “couldn’t care less,” not “could care less.”

    3. Corporations also contain citizens, including corporation owners. The cops are tasked to enforce the law, no matter on who’s behalf they enforce it.

      1. You’re an old military man, would you obey an unlawful order to save some company a few bucks on their bottom line? Would you let someone execute that unlawful order if it was your ass in the cross hairs?
        I wouldn’t swing on a cop, but I would passively resist and make them work for it and carry me out of there, i’d take a beating for my principles. Would you?

    4. Resisting cops will just get your ass beat, ask the native indians, they still getting it.

      1. I’d take half the money of what i would of originally gotten in the settlement to beat the hell out of that fucker

    1. Actually he is going to get zero according to most experts. The law is heavily on the side of the airlines here. It is a federal FELONY to refuse to leave an airplane after you have been told to do so, it is called FELONY TRESPASS. He is on tape being told to leave and he re-entered he plane after being booted off, so that is actually two felonies. Frankly he is lucky there is public outrage on his side, otherwise he’d be charged facing 2 felonies minimum plus resisting arrest.

      1. I wouldn’t say heavily, Uniteds own guidelines state not to kick someone off after they already boarded for overbooking, that’s what u are supposed to do at the gate

  7. There is a Chinese lady in my office who was bitching about this very incident today. My only question is if she would bitch and complain just as much if the “victim” was not Asian. I think not.
    This is one of a myriad of reasons as to why multiculturalism does not work. We simply cannot live in a country where certain groups of people express more outrage over an incident because someone from their race/religion/ethnic group was aggrieved.

    1. She wouldn’t give a fuck if the asshole hadn’t been a Chink. These people circle the wagon real fast when one of theirs is attacked. Look at the recent riots in Paris by the Chinese community after the shooting death of a Chinese man by police. Maybe the fucker shouldn’t have answered the door with a knife and his hands covered in blood from gutting fish.

      1. In some parts of Paris you’re crazy if you don’t answer the door armed with a knife.

      2. Is it against the law to answer the door while bloody and holding a knife?
        Would the outcome have been any better if they bashed the door down then shot him?

      3. He’s Vietnamese and has lived in the USA since 1970. Long enough to learn how lucrative victimhood can be.

      4. Same for you. You would only give a fuck if any victim was white.
        It works with every ethnic group. Welcome to reality.

        1. Everyone BUT Whites acts this way. White men have been brainwashed 24/7 since birth to be “individuals” and not give a fuck about other Whites. “Every man for himself and the Devil take the hindmost” kind of attitude.
          This is actually the main problem.

        2. Whites (especially Anglo whites) are culturally individualistic especially White Americans of English Stock.
          Whites need to be little collective as well.

    2. Good observation…I wonder what the immigration status of this de frocked doctor who trades drugs for sex ??? Aren’t all immigrants supposed to be amazing??

    3. To be fair, Asians are the only race in the US that can be treated equal to whites. Imagine if the guy was black. United wouldn’t be able to lift a finger against him without being subjected to “anti-racist” mob violence.

      1. Are you serious? There is like 5 videos out right now of black people being dragged off the plane. And guess what, no one blacks cares because those people DESERVED IT! They acted like idiots, and this guy deserves it too.

        1. Just saying that when it happens to Asians they complain (just as white people did when that American kid got flogged for vandalism in Singapore). When it happens to blacks or Muslims they riot and get an outpouring of leftist support for it.
          Wagon-circling is normal for any race-conscious people. Asians (orientals for your Brits) in the west riot but they don’t get violent.

        2. Repeating yourself doesn’t make you right. As the man said, this happens to blacks all the time and no one gets behind them.

        3. OK and which was the incident when a black person got legimately thrown off a plane and BLM protested?

        4. Are you blind? Don’t you see BLM protests and white people supporting BLM protests?

        5. There were quite a few of the nature but I forgot which exactly. My job isn’t to stalk leftist front organizations.

        6. Kid in Singapore had a dumb defense he claimed he had attention deficit disorder.
          I would have doubled the punishment figuring he needed more than most to get his attention.
          Just sayin’….

        7. That’s because you’re full of shit so you have to hide behind “My job isn’t to stalk leftist front organizations.”

        8. There was one time when a vibrant diversity attacked a cop, punching him and trying to take his gun, and then big surprise, got shot. There were some riots or something, I forget the guy’s name.

    4. Ask her if she feels the same way about the 1000+ white and african americans out there on youtube dragged off planes for acting like a jackass. Dude got what he deserved. Frankly, I would have given him a beating too if I was the cop.

  8. Fakebook has absolutely exploded with virtue-signaling and calls for boycotting United over this. It takes all my willpower not to troll the fuck out of these crybaby cunts.

    1. Why? Because the fucker was Asian? So being Asian should exclude him from the lottery of random ejection? IF the airline had kicked 3 or 4 Asians off the plane (Assuming the flight wasn’t going to Shanghai), that might indicate bias. But because 1 of the 4 randomly selected was Asian, it’s racist??? WTF?

      1. I dont think any of the MSM-fed people virtue-signaling on his behalf know that he pedals drugs in exchange for taking it up the ass. But if they did, I am sure the screams would be far louder!

  9. “In classic US airline style, the flight had been overbooked and United sought four volunteers to vacate their seats in favor of extra staff members.”
    Wrong – the flight was not overbooked. Overbooking happens when they sell too many tickets and everyone shows up. In this case, they sold just the right amount and then United decided they wanted to fly four non-revenue passengers (extra crew) at the last minute. They violated their own terms of service with respect to overbooking.
    Moreover, their terms of service address “denial of boarding” when the fact is these passengers were already boarded. They really fucked this one up six ways to Sunday.
    That said, the “doctor” with the revoked medical license could not have handled himself any worse – what a total retard.

  10. There is really no way to defend or excuse what United Airlines did here, even if they were legally permitted to do so. What this episode clearly demonstrates is the rise of corporate fascism in America.

    1. They weren’t permitted to do so, they were in violation of the terms of the contract, not the passenger.

  11. Also very telling they did not show that frame of the cops in the plane, which clearly shows them as black, hispanic or otherwise not white. That was definitely NOT done by accident.

  12. Wrapped up in a blanket like that on the floor he looks like a caterpillar about to undergo metamorphosis lolz

      1. I would have taken the $1000.
        Must be nice to be so wealthy that the offer a $1000 means nothing.

        1. I’d prefer 2k, but learned that $1,360 is federally-mandated max. Sucks to be bumped. American 747 I was on turned back to PR’s Isla Verde airport because an engine flamed out on takeoff. Eight hours in a no aircondiciado aeropuerto later we took off.

        2. Well, it wasn’t 1,000, it was $800 voucher for future travel he may not use.
          I’d have jumped on $800 in cash plus a rental car that gets picked up from my home vice me turning it in, and driven myself to Louisville.

        3. It isn’t the federally mandated max. It’s the max they’re required to offer, but it isn’t a limit. They can, and some airlines have gone over that amount.

        4. EXACTLY! Nobody wants their shitty vouchers.
          Send a stewardess down the isle waving 8 $100 bills and a first class ticket for the next flight and she’d have 4 volunteers before she got the third row.

    1. Little known fact: Asians line their cocoons with chrysanthemum flower petals

  13. So, this chinaman sold drugs in exchange for gay sex and yet he still is married? Talk about stand by your man! And yet us Western men are discarded for “breaking frame” or a “momentary lapse in alpha-ness” and yet David Dao’s wife stands by him after he was caught seeing pain killers to let some guy let him suck his dick?
    Know what would have happened if I tried to date one of my students? I would have been expelled and probably arrested.
    But sell pain killers for gay sex and the charges get dropped. Strange…

    1. the doctor literally sucks dick for drugs
      and yet his wife stays with him
      Think your culture is still the best, White man?
      Did you break frame for a moment? Did you become a little too beta? lolz

      1. If she were in the class I was TA’ing, I would not have sex with her: it’s a breach of ethics and a sure way to get kicked out of university. An undergrad in a class I’m not TA’ing is fair game, however.

  14. I don’t like the overbooking unless they offer people something in exchange for the inconvenience.
    What I get miffed at is that EVERYONE has to be at their destination
    EXACTLY when they WANT to be there. I fly to South Florida quite a bit so there are a lot of elderly set in their ways. Let’s cooperate. When Southwest announces they need seats for crew or to place a family together I fuckin shove people out of the way, knock old people off their walkers and run over children stepping on their faces when
    Southwest offers vouchers for someone to remain. I have probably
    pocketed at least $2-4k every year this way.

  15. Love the whiny women on the video complaining, “Look what you did to him.” Well bitch, then why didn’t you offer to give up your seat so the good doctor could stay on???

      1. dafuq is your problem with armchairs. Armchairs are great.

        1. I will listen to a lot of opposing view points BEM, I like to consider myself a man who is open minded….but when someone starts putting down idealistic armchairs (like an Eames Lounge and Ottoman) then it is go time ya’hear.

        2. My arm rarely if ever needs to sit down.

  16. Crazy deranged fuck running around like a chicken with its head cut off muttering incoherently in broken english while bleeding all over the place

  17. so…
    1 – is returnofkings becoming pro-corporation now?
    2 – Or can a feminist post a pro-feminist article in this website?
    Please someone, answer me? which policy this website adopts? nº 1 or nº 2?

      1. Sure, why not let feminist post here then?
        Or just your idea of Free speech?
        Or maybe this website doesn’t stand for any ideology…

        1. You don’t agree with the views in the article, now’s your chance to argue against them.

        2. give me a 3rd option that doesn’t include 1 and 2…
          I find it impossible.
          also: the whole free-speech is buzzword. no ideologic backed website would ever allow a post against its own agenda. (returnofkings is ideologic: patriarchy, masculinity)
          the whole: oh, its free speech is a lie designed to make people accept bullshit. This website moderators have the power to block content that goes against the ideology, its a private website and there is no excuse.
          Which makes it obvious that this website is selling out under the guise of free-speech.

        3. my opinion on the matter is clear. unless you need spelling it out. Which I won’t.

        4. How bad does this entire website, as well as the entire neo-masculinity would look if articles like this were common in our midst?
          Its a no-brainer, the corporation is in the wrong!
          This articles accomplish the goal of tarnishing patriarchists as insensitive.

        5. My initial reaction to the incident was the same as yours. The article merely provides a deeper analysis/alternate point of view.

        6. When Salon published: “I am a pedophile, but not a monster” Everyone on the right (and reasonably so) agreed that Salon was pushing pedophilia.
          Same with national geographic…
          Same logic applies to us.

        7. No. Let feminists post in the comment section so they can be cannibalized and their bones scattered to the wind. Besides, it provides hours of entertainment.

    1. My policy is that I try to avoid people when most of their questions are loaded with #2

    2. Oh noooeesss, not an article that doesn’t automatically start off with a hatred of capitalism! Whatever shall we doooo??? Oh noooooooooeeeeeesssss.

      1. I love capitalism. What kind of capitalism is this? Since when do companies that fuck up get to use the state’s armed thugs to protect their bottom line by taking it out of the hide of an innocent old man in a capitalist system?

        1. Since federal airline laws were passed making it a felony to remain on an airplane when told to leave.

    3. The article isn’t defending the airline’s piss poor management of the incident.
      The topic of focus is the dubious doctor’s incongruent reaction and demonstration of flawed decision making.

      1. In what world is being pro-company somehow anti-ROK is my question? When did the expectation become that this was HuffPo with some members?

        1. Selective bias on his part I’m guessing. Were all susceptible to it to a certain extent. Difference here is he’s using it to fuel his troll behavior.

        1. Enlighten me on how getting your face bashed in, getting images of that spread on social media and having your professional history laid bare on public domain is a viable strategy.

  18. The problem is that they caught him making pee pee in some coke. Actually, it isn’t really even that funny. The violent staff at United was only satisfied a short while. They wanted to attack another passenger an hour later. He may make recourse to the Chinese Godfather who will call United and Make them an offer they can’t understand.

    1. Perfect. Perfect post. A solid 10/10. Well done sir.

      1. I left out that United made an officially apology. It’s spokesman said “me so sowwy”

      1. What began at one point as disgust at over-political-correctness (which is sensible) is now license to act like an idiot because “all racism is just whining anyway”. Talk about overshooting the mark.

        1. You’re not wrong topically.
          But I’m half Oriental Asian myself and in this context do your best to imagine how little I care.

        2. You’re half Oriental?!
          We all will benefit because Dr. Dao had the chutzpah not to give in to this bullying airline:
          As a direct result of his temerity, United has quickly improved and enacted policy changes, such as a maximum of $10,000 (up from $1,000) to passengers who are asked to change flights.
          United will no longer “require customers seated on the plane to give up their seat involuntarily unless safety or security is at risk.” The airline also says it will limit its use of law enforcement officers. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/27/525845287/united-airlines-will-now-pay-voluntarily-bumped-passengers-up-to-10-000

        3. Yes. Mediterranean European father and Oriental Asian mum.
          Corporate entities tend to be incentivized to act only when their bottom line is adversely impacted as was the case with United. Positive outcome I suppose for a passenger not named Rosa Parks.

    2. If you ask me, the best way to get “volunteers” to leave the plane, is to make it worth their while. I’m sure if you compensate people enough, people will leave the plane.

      1. I see guys fighting over 4’s no doubt you can get someone to leave a plane for a couple bucks

        1. LOL! I have been sent emails looking for volunteers to delay their flight. Normally they bribe you with a five star hotel and a free flight (for long haul). I think most people who can delay their flight would take this. I haven’t heard anything about what they offered the passengers. Maybe it was a kick in the teeth and a bloody face. Can’t imagine why nobody went for it.

        2. In the days before deregulation, I knew a guy that would make a reservation to travel to a ski area (he liked to ski) for Thanksgiving weekend, leaving from a busy airport. He’d then volunteer to be bumped multiple times. He’d wind up not going that weekend, not paying a dime for a flight, and get 4-6 free flights to his desired area. They want to avoid this kind of behavior today.

        3. Yeah, I used to know a couple that lived five minutes from Newark airport, and they would do this on the regular. Make reservations with no intention of taking the flight, and TRY to get bumped to get free tickets.
          They had more free tickets than they could possibly use.

        1. Fuck was so important about this flight? You’d think it was the last flight out of Saigon.

        2. I would have said $2K, first class hotel and meals overnight and first class flight out on the morning.
          Also, my room MUST have a mini-bar and room service.

        3. The $800 offered came with too many strings.
          First, it was not money; it was a ticket value, that could be used ONLY on United flights, and it expires within a year.
          And, obviously, you don’t get “change” if your next flight costs less than $800.
          United was being cheap and foolish. Whatever happened to doubling that amount? After all, they needed only 4 seats, which would have cost them peanuts compared to the $billions they made last year in profits.

        4. No cash. An 800 dollar nontransferable voucher good only for United Airlines that can’t be used in peak seasons (such as summer or Christmas) and is valid for one year. For most people that is less useful than a roll of toilet paper.

        5. So so far it has cost UA $950 million in market value. So I am guessing they should have offered more than $800 but less than $950 million.

        6. If they offered that amount in cash, plus the free hotel stay and rescheduled their flight. I’m sure someone would have volunteered.
          It seems a lot of facts about this case came to light after the fact. Still, it could have been handled better, by the airline and the passengers.

        7. Legally, they can offer whatever they want, they’re legally required to offer up to 1,350 before they can involuntarily choose someone. But they can go beyond that and airlines have done so. Read a case where an airline paid $5K.

        8. They regularly go up to $1500. Even $2000 is an option. Tried to save a couple of thousand, lost $2 Billion in stock worth within a day. Good call, United.

        9. Fuck me!
          Has Munoz resigned yet? He should.
          I heard people are taking other airlines now, even if it means a stop-over. I guess people don’t want their teeth knocked out just for sitting in their seats.

        10. I have been on that Sunday night flight several times. For whatever reason, it is always full.

        11. That should have been in the headline, 800 actual dollars sounds reasonable.

      2. I can’t lie, I would have let them drag me. United Airlines will likely pay him a small fortune to make this go away.

      3. But that would require good customer service and being nice to the passengers.

    3. Yes it is not white on Asian racism this time.
      This is black on Asian racism, which is very common, is still racism!
      #StopBlackOnAsianBrutality!

  19. So, article starts with the false statement that the flight was overbooked.
    It wasn’t. Even the UA CEO admits it wasn’t overbooked.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/04/11/united-ceo-employees-followed-procedures-flier-belligerent/100317166/
    Now, whenever you fly it is on a contract carrier agreement, here’s a link to UAs:
    https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx
    Note the definition of oversold:
    Oversold Flight means a flight where there are more Passengers holding valid confirmed Tickets that check-in for the flight within the prescribed check-in time than there are available seats.
    Didn’t apply here, there were seats for ALL the paying passengers. And it doesn’t include— ‘…and seats required for dead heading crew…’
    So, the relevant article is 21, ‘Refusal to Transport’.
    (Article 25 ‘Denied Boarding Compensation’ doesn’t apply because the passengers had already been boarded. And denial of Boarding would only be relevant if the flight were oversold, which it wasn’t. Additionally it’s a federal law that passengers with confirmed seats can’t be bumped-they’re supposed to bump the pax whose seats haven’t been confirmed yet).
    The issue was UA trying to bump a passenger who had already been boarded on a confirmed seat in order to transport their own employees. Not a situation spelled out in the contract agreement. Ony 21, c. might be applicable if you agree this falls under situations beyond UAs control- getting aircrew to a regularly schedule flight, bumping passengers from a completely unrelated flight.
    The Dr.’s reaction was extreme, to protect his contractual rights he should have refused to deboard until security showed up, then complied. Then sued for breach of contract.
    UA should have kept offering more money (there was an airline that paid all the family members in a group $5,000 each to free up seats). There’s federal requirement to offer at least a certain amount when bumping for overbooking (which again didn’t apply)but UA could have gone higher, especially since this was a scenario of bumping pax for UA employees. Or gotten a limo and driver to transport the passenger or the aircrew.

    1. Much cheaper than the couple hundred million it cost them in the stock market and loss of future customers. Penny wise and pound foolish.

    1. Yep. He’s gaming the system. We’ll hear about the lawsuit any day now.

  20. What exactly was this passenger expecting? His reaction is pathetic. Even my young children understand that when you’re in an airplane you must obey the rules, even if you do not like them.

      1. Well, the lawyers are going to argue whether Rule 21 C. applies. Right before settling with him anyway…. but to drive the payoff down.

      2. A very liberal interpretation of the following would allow this:
        Force Majeure and Other Unforeseeable Conditions – Whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather or other conditions beyond UA’s control including, but not limited to, acts of God, force majeure, strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities, terrorist activities, or disturbances, whether actual, threatened, or reported.
        United’s needing to quickly move its own employees to Louisville could be seen as something beyond its control.
        The doctor should have taken the compensation and left the aircraft.

        1. Moving around it’s own employees is beyond an airline’s control? A jury is going to have a good laugh at that one.
          Piss-poor planning on how they move their crews around – and greedily overbooking their flights – Neither of these things are beyond United’s control.

        2. Moving around it’s own employees is beyond an airline’s control?

          But how can you prove that it isn’t? Or that something else beyond United’s control required them to move 4 employees to Louisville?

        3. Usually most contracts have a ton of wiggle room in them to allow for such things.

        4. Let’s hope there was no other way they could have got employees in Louisville, train timetable, bus, private limo, flight in from elsewhere.
          http://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2086635/uniteds-booting-passenger-was-even-worse-it-looks
          I’m guessing they are up shit creek on that one.
          “United could have sent its employees by taxi about an hour across Chicago from O’Hare airport to Midway airport and put them on a Southwest flight to Louisville, Kentucky, where they were needed on Monday.”

        5. I don’t agree with the idea of vouchers either. The compensation should be made in cash.

  21. David Dao: “That’s a very pretty pecker you have there. May I suck on it? I’ll give you some drugs…”

      1. a medical degree from the ho chi minh university doesn’t exactly inspire confidence
        When poking you with pins fails, out come the leeches …

        1. Actually leeches are used in Western medicine, specifically to remove necrotic tissues on people who have way too much of it after or before a surgery.
          The More You Know! ™

        2. They’re also used to help with blood flow. Some are used to help heal skin by removing blood pooled under the graft and restoring blood circulation in blocked veins. They’ve also been used in reattaching fingers and other body parts. Most hospital pharmacies will keep leeches in stock. There are specific companies that raise them, and make sure they are clean.

  22. This whole thing is a huge fucking distraction. The elites are trying to jump start WW III and here us “men” are talking about some beta chink who gets himself hurt protesting and by going limp like a child.

    1. Beta would have gone quietly. I’m guessing you would have said “yes sir” and quietly slunk off the plane.

  23. Good points on the virtue signaling of the fellow passengers. Also, didn’t know about the background of the doctor… kinda weird for sure. TBH though, the airline messed up in it’s booking arrangement. Paying customers should always take precedence over employees.

    1. You don’t seem to understand. Paying customers are peasant scum who must obey their betters. United employees are a higher class of people and it is more important that they get to their jobs than you getting to your job. Now shut up or security will knock your teeth out.
      – United CEO

      1. What if it was a black muslim female (transitioned female that is) doctor? Oh man the media would have a field day!

  24. No-one intervened, as they could not give two shits about some moon crickets and wetbacks tag teaming to give a gay gook the slippery slope

      1. They probably snorted a load of his fag rohypnol and did a multicultural conga line around the baggage depot

        1. That’s back when immigration laws made sense…like the McCoy act of 1909

    1. Intervening would mean “interfering with a flight crew in the performance of its duties”, punishable by up to twenty years in prison.

  25. Are you serious? This guy just won the lottery. United lawyers will probably offer him a 7-figure settlement to keep this out of the courts and make all the horrible publicity go away.

        1. He failed to comply with an order. He smacked his face on an armrest. The security didn’t sock him in the mouth.

        2. no respect for that “security” because after all that he somehow managed to come back and run along the cabin with his bloody face. and what if the guy was indeed dangerous? looks to me like the policemen were bunch of lame idiots.

  26. The real question now is did the police use excessive, nay – wonton – force???

    1. well done.
      I heard united issued an apology and new ticket in a fortune cookie

      1. He should refuse and say “The ho chi minimum I’ll take is $100 thousand, cash”.

  27. “But the contracts through which airline tickets are bought explicitly give airlines the right to bump customers from flights.”
    That is completely different from removing a passenger. See link below for United’s Rule 21 of their Contract of Carriage. There is nothing in these rules for removing passengers WHO HAVE ALREADY BOARDED – because of an overbooked flights – or because United is too incompetent to plan how to get their employees where they need to be,
    https://www.united.com/web/en-us/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21
    It looks like United broke their own rules / contract with their customer.

    1. I guess this will go to court, but the Captain of the aircraft can remove any passenger from the plane for just about any reason. There is no sense in arguing with the police or the airline once they decided that you have been selected for removal. You are getting off the plane one way or another or that plane is never leaving the ground.

      1. I’m guessing the captain played no part in this decision, or any of the actions.

      2. I wonder if the captain will feel intelligent after the lawsuit causes the company to downsize his job away. I would assume they have litigation insurance, but from the piss poor management that lead to this situation they may not.

  28. He paid for the ticket, it he was all boarded. I don’t see how this is his fault. The airline could have incentivized more for some one getting off or they could have chartered another flight for the employees. The Airline could have have some foresight. On top of that they let him back on

    1. I think he ran back on: maybe he was confused and thought it was the last helicopter out of Saigon…

      1. I actually know someone that was a child that rode that famous helo being pushed off the aircraft carrier during the invasion of Saigon.

        1. Can you believe that? they pushed tens of millions of dollars worth of military equipment into the ocean to make room for more refugees. That was pretty damn remarkable.

    2. I get involved in customer service sometimes – whoever was right or wrong, this was a clusterfuck for United.

    3. You don’t try your case on the side of the road when you’re pulled over. The airline could have done a lot of things, but once a passenger gets belligerent, then he is absolutely out of negotiating tools.
      The shame of an assumed intelligent man, acting like a 4 year old child, is palpable and really makes me want to punch him. He may be right legally, but he went off like a spoiled toddler and cut out any ability of UA to negotiate with him further. He acted like a little punk bitch girl.
      A sane and sober man would negotiate upward calmly, and probably come away with a couple of nice tickets or cash for the trouble.

        1. It’s coming to the point that I’m really not sure I expect anything less than full juvenile behavior from the bulk of humanity.

      1. Who wouldn’t get angry as a paying customer and has to get to work the next day.
        Not too mention If it was really that serious for UA, why’d they let him back on board?

      2. It’s very easy to call everyone else immature. It’s of the same vein as calling everyone you disagree with a racist. Or a sexist.

  29. Thanks for the 1st emotionally absent piece I have read on this incident. The passenger removed has no one to blame for his injury but himself. If I were a passenger on that place I’d be really pissed because this guy was basically holding the plane hostage with his antics.

      1. I travel regularly and absolutely hate United (fuck you very much for dissapearing a couple hundred thousand Continental miles).
        So I find this whole thing hilarious. Scott Adams had the same reaction.

  30. If it was me being asked to get off the plane I would knock everyone the fuck out, everyone would run screaming off the plane. I would rain hell down on everyone in sight. And the plane would be leaving fucking empty..with just me on it. Im a god and I will happily break legs, necks and anything else that I would enjoy breaking. Fearless warrior no ones going to tell me to get off the god damn plane.

    1. Thor Game, I like it.
      “Sir, we’d like to have you disembark the aircraft right now…”
      “FEEL THE WRATH OF THOR GIRDED IN HIS BELT AND WIELDING THE MIGHTY MJOLNIR!!!!!!!!!! FOR OOOOOOOODDDDIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!!”

      1. I pay the stupidity tax that is the Lottery. However, it allows me to imagine buying a Cessna CJ4 and never needing to deal with the airlines, fellow passengers, or fellow aircrew again.

        1. I hear you there, brother. I loath herd transportation in any form, especially airlines. Cramped (even kinda in 1st class), smelly, pillows smelling of other people’s sweat, and throw in TSA and its unconstitutional searches and violations of my very dignity, and, well, they can all kiss my shiny metal ass.
          Private is the only way to fly.

        2. I don’t fit into the 3$ overnight express box unfortunately.

      2. If anything it should have been a woman to get off the fucking plane not a man, woman weight less which means less fuel burnt which means more money for the stupid airline. Someone didn’t think this over very well.

        1. Women and Chinamen are more or less the same size.

        2. True that…but if its a plane full of REAL men…then its best the female is removed first.

        3. Any aircraft that hauls a Chinaman by default isn’t full of real men.

        4. Shit, the last thing I want to do is fly anywhere on a plane full of only dudes.

        5. Well, unless you’re flying on a bomber or fighter jet. Then I think that I wouldn’t want to fly with anybody else BUT dudes.

  31. He was kicked off the plane for being East Asian. When picking who gets bumped, airlines are going to pick who paid the lowest fare since compensation amount is based upon paid fare. So not to my surprise, they picked a China man. They brag all the time about what a ‘great deal’ they get on things they buy. It is not racism, it is their culture. But, I guess he got what he paid for.
    The media will spin this as a white racist agent picked him out.
    Then when he collects on the lawsuit, he can brag again on the great deal. $10M for a hundred dollar fare.

  32. Reading the comment section was a well needed comic relief, I swear some of you guys should do comedy

  33. The guy was a de-licensed felon doctor on probation for drugs for sex with another male. Not like he was any type of social or good moral character – at least in my arena of life.
    I would like to see the cops knock his teeth out. I hope he doesn’t get a nickel.

    1. Do you think you should only be sold items after a background check?
      Sorry Sir, we can’t let you have that 55″ Tv, you have too many parking tickets.

        1. Exactly …that is what’s unseemly and off-putting about this fucking supposed ADULT MALE. He like instantly regressed into a sniveling bitch baby…

      1. I’d try to work in some indication that he doesn’t intend to be physical, maybe ‘he doesn’t seem aggressively belligerent’.
        But I’d still rate his tone and demeanor as belligerent.

        1. I cannot once, ever, remember a cop issuing an order and the person he is speaking to says “No, I won’t” and then it turning out well.

        2. You seem to be the sort of “good German” who never questions orders. Let’s face it, this guy is a martyr who took one for the “team” (i.e. Fed up airline passengers). His tantrum and injuries will–hopefully when Congress steps in–make life a bit easier for the rest of us. Oh, and he has a big payday coming too. Clarence Darrow’s ghost wouldn’t save United in a jury trial.

      2. However, he’s being confronted by armed security (…and I think LEOs..) stating the airline is booting him off the airplane. He’s not going to litigate this decision with them- it’s a civil contractual dispute, which they don’t have the authority to settle.
        It is at this point he should comply, get the gate agents and explain to them they need to immediately put him in contact with the person who can arrange to get him to Louisville by the am, since UA is in violation of their contract.

        1. I don’t know what this guy did or didn’t do, and frankly I don’t care.
          I have traveled by plane enough to know the feeling of being treated like absolute shit by an airline… totally disrespected and treated like I was less than human. Not to mention that, even without that kind of thing, flying can be a miserable experience in and of itself.
          In the middle of a long and shitty day of air travel, if a couple of goons from the stupid airport police showed up and told me to give up my seat or else, I can easily see myself telling them to go fuck themselves.
          Would I fight them and resist them if they started to pull me out of my seat? Probably not. But would I be a miserable grumbling bastard about it? Yeah, I think I would.

        2. I’d try and save my miserable demanding bastard persona for the higher up with the authority to produce a Limo and driver to get me to Louisville by the am.

        3. I understand that being a dick to the sky sheriff won’t get me shit. I’m only saying I understand how easy it would be to tell that guy something that, if he is having as bad a day as I am, would end up with me getting dragged out half-conscious.

        4. I guess our self-control is part of what makes us men and not children. Yeah, the temptation would definitely be there.
          Amazing the number of times I’ve had desk folks at rental car companies suddenly find a vehicle for me, after initially telling me there isn’t one for my reservation. Often a bunch of customers sitting around in the same situation. Ok, thanks, connect me to your supervisor, right now. Will you take a — (pick up/mini-van/panel van/Cadillac with a tear in the upholstery…)- for econo price you booked?

        5. Those who go quietly get nothing.
          Being beaten and dragged off semi-conscious will get a much bigger pay out. How much does an airline pay for advertising in a year? This guy will be worth as much in ongoing negative publicity.

        6. Yeah, but in the moment I wouldn’t be thinking — Hey, I might get the crap beaten out of me and I can sue!!! It would be – what’s the best strategy to get my ass to Louisville with the least inconvenience to me.
          Short term thinking on my part…

  34. Fuck me how did this become about race ??? Ye are as bad as the liberals who cried racism. Its very tiring !!!
    On a brighter note,that clip of the anti trump woman gets me hard every time !!!!!

  35. Wrong.
    It should be illegal to deliberately overbook flights. We don’t allow this in any other venue. Its corporate greed and cronie capitalism at its finest. And his past is irrelevant.

    1. Crony capitalism is where companies pay off government and vice versa. Booking/overbooking have nothing to do with that I wouldn’t think.
      They overbook for logical reasons and this was not a case of overbooking actually, so that doesn’t even apply.

    2. Be careful what you ask for. Many economic studies have shown fares could be 20-50% higher if airlines could only book up to the number of seats on the plane. Also, say bye-bye to cancellation options. There is no way in hell an airline is going to let you rebook if they have to take the sole gamble on eventually reselling your seat.
      I’ve only taken two bumps in the course of my life. The first got my a $500 voucher which later got me down to FL to visit a friend. The second got me a $300 voucher which helped aid another friend come to me who was down on his luck. I seem to recall that each time my delay was less then 2-3 hours and I even got a food voucher.

      1. Not sure if this is true but I heard the airlines operate on such a thin margin that after everything is set and done they only make a thousand or two net profit on a flight.

        1. And they have been consistently losing money for the last three decades except for a year here or there. Running an airline is giant operation, with hundreds of thousands employees, huge facility infrastructure, expensive maintenance, huge amounts of administration, and expensive equipment that must be updated every 10 or so years. If you ever wondered why the airlines will occasionally float the idea of being re-regulated is because during regulation they were guaranteed to make a certain % profit every year and the government had to manipulate ticket prices to make that happen.

  36. If I recall my training at a major american airline (now defunct) from some time ago under their contract of carriage and FAA you could remove a passenger from a flight for cause such as placing deadheading crew on a plane as not to disrupt the carrier’s ongoing service. I never had to do it but had to process some involuntary denied boardings (IDBs) before and that was never pleasant. But it has to be done because there were more seats then passengers. There is not such thing as standing room on a plane.
    But, if that ever happens to you and you get involuntarily denied boarding be happy. Here is the secret – do NOT accepts vouchers, hotel rooms, or food as compensation. Demand cash compensation. Depending on the hours you are delayed it could be a very large check and the airline still must provide you with hotel and food accommodations until you can make your next flight. And if you demand cash compensation make the station manager write you a draft out then and there. Don’t let them give you the excuse “you will get a check in the mail”. Regs require immediate payout if demanded.
    But, yeah, this guy is dumb in that his protest was not going to let him keep his seat. When you have 3 cops telling you to do something it is best to just do it and manage the situation afterward. In this situation, yeah, it sucks for that guy. It is going to suck for anyone on that plane. But, if those deadheading crew don’t get there then it is going to suck for another whole plane when that flight is cancelled. And then again and then again down the line. So that guy trying to get to a funeral can’t. Or someone with an emergency who is trying to see a family member before they pass doesn’t. etc. etc. Sometimes you just have to realize you are getting the raw end of the deal, but then make the best of it you can.

    1. A discussion about relevant FAA regulations has been lacking. If the FAA specifically allows for it, and it seems reasonable that they would for the reason you suggest, I see that as undercutting any argument made concerning his removal being a violation of the contract of carriage.

      1. FAA regs would trump the contract of carriage. Although I can’t find it now (probably because of the current situation) the FAA used to have a flyer readily available online about reasons you could be removed from a plane. They were generally safety, drunkenness, fighting, failure to follow crew instructions, the captain expelled you (for any reason), or deadheading crew priority.
        There are also boarding priorities that are followed when pulling people. My guess is his name was just on the top of that list and there was no other nefarious reason why he was selected.
        Although most crew schedulers were pretty good we could get the occasional “emergency” crew member to deadhead to keep the flights moving. I think back then front line crew had much more discretion because the second you threw out there was $1000 voucher I would have a line 12 deep. Also sometimes we would have to pull people off the plain because we got priority packages (like horse semen which has a very tight travel life before it goes bad) or even caskets. That would throw off the weight and balance and we would have to pull some passengers. Again though once you offer high enough of a number I would always have more then enough volunteers.
        The only time I had to do an involuntary bump was around the holidays. That was understandable. But when I told them the amount of cash compensation they were going to receive (I never tried to trick them into taking a voucher even though we were trained to do so) I usually got a smile and a “merry Christmas” back from them.
        It’s all about how you treat your customers. I would say any time you have 3 police offers threatening to haul a customer out of a store or off a flight you failed even if legally correct.

        1. Yeah, I can’t help but wonder what would have happened if they’d offered cash instead of a voucher prior to selecting folks to remove. I think they’d have had enough volunteers.

        2. It all has to do with customer service and not who is legally “right”. I remember one time we had a coffin show up on the ramp last minute. Apparently it was late, the funeral was tomorrow, and the only way to get it there in time was to put it on our flight. We were fully loaded, fueled, and ready for pushback. Not much we could do with disrupting passengers other then pulling a shit load of bags as we were at the weight limit. I hit the manifest and found a family of four with a bunch of bags. Figured why not give it a shot if we can get all of them off maybe we can make a family happy and get this casket going to where it needs to go. Went on to the plane and told the dad we had last minute cargo that was human remains and this was the last chance to get it there in time the funeral and that four his family’s inconvenience I could offer them a total of $4000 in vouchers, two hotels rooms adjoined – one for the kids the other for the parents, and enough meal vouchers where they could eat at the fancy hotel restaurant. Holy shit did I make that dad’s day. As they enthusiastically pulled their carry ons I keyed my mic to the ramp and told them to pull their bags, got the cargo, on and pushed on time.
          Got a letter a few months later forwarded to our station manager from the family thanking me for how professionally the situation was handled also talking about how they used the credit to fly to Disney World which they could not afford without it.
          I really don’t know why airlines are stingy with those things. Numbers used to show only about 30% were ever used. I bet you the President of United wishes his staff would have given out some higher value vouchers now then being an international news headline.

        3. good thing the computer didn’t randomly select the corpse to give up his place in the casket

        4. At least back then they were on the cargo manifest…
          And (at least there was not) a “select random passenger to kick off button”. When you check in you are assigned a boarding priority based upon ticket type, awards level, check in time, etc. It is transparent to most passengers all the time because almost all the time paying passengers are going to get on a plane. If you need to start denying boarding though for whatever reason all you do is flip the boarding priority report and start from the top.

        5. Actually it was pretty accurate and most of it still applies to airline operations today.

    2. Obey, unless you can profit by a chance at a few million dollars. Definitely worth a few injuries.

  37. Once the guy left the plane and then snuck back on there was absolutely no way that the Airport Security could let him remain on the flight. Unruly passengers are dealt with ON THE GROUND. If somebody starts behaving irrationally in the air, they land and take them off.
    .
    United are idiots but that ISN’T the reason why security dragged him off.
    .
    I’m quite surprised that the guy wasn’t arrested and booked – that is what almost ALWAYS happens with unruly passengers in order to make them an example.

  38. What happens if you grab the flight attendant by the pussy..? Surely no ones going to care about her masculine gaped out cock casseroled cum bucket.

    1. You get an extra bag of peanuts and a refreshing cup of Ginger Ale.

        1. Have you seen what stewardesses look like these days? I don’t want a happy ending from any of those old and ugly buffaloes.

        2. I know they have destroyed the fun in flying…its unacceptable. Who wants to fly with ugly fuel consuming land whales. I remember the good old days people would party down the back of the plane…taking advantage of the unlimited supply of alcohol and the ability to smoke legally on a plane ahhh the good old days.

        3. Air waitresses should basically be models. And all these gay dudes they have now give me the creeps.

        4. Yea…I have had those gay ones try and hit on me, creeps me out too, but I use it to get more drinks and plates of shitty airline food since you need like 3 or 4 of them to get a proper feed, they ask what would you like you drink…I say 4 bottles of wine..2 beers and 3 gin tonics…the look of disgust on their faces.

        5. the gay stewards always monopolise the trolleys, and then brush past you if you’re in the aisle seat

        6. I just drive anymore, take the bus (surprisingly a lot of Greyhounds are just fine now that youth are opting for bus service again), or take a train if it is available.
          Once told a boss I was afraid to fly and if I was sent somewhere without train service I would need additional travel time so I could drive. He was fine with it and it kept me out of the office an average of 2-3 a month.

        7. Dress worse, then they’ll ignore you. Even though they’re gay, they’re guys and it’s about visual appeal.

        8. Hate being on the aisle and having some waddling stewardess brush her fat ass haunches on me every time she passes by.

        9. Theres a reason airlines had models for hostesses…they weigh less which means less fuel which means more money…simple.

        10. Yes they want to be fucked like they are little girls with cocks. They want hulk to rip their asses open with the jack hammer. It is disturbing at the best of times.

        11. Watched one of those gay stewards hand his phone number to a male passanger after he was too chatty with him on a trans-atlantic flight once. From his beat red composure, apparently it wasn’t appreciated.

        12. I can see Bruce Banner trying to explain that shit to his girlfriend the next day in his ripped up jeans and no shirt.
          “Baby, sometimes I just get really mad, and I turn green, and I just rage-fuck another guy in the ass while screaming ‘HULK SMASH’ as loud as I can… It doesn’t mean anything…”

        13. Maybe his girlfriend would find his profile on Green Grinder; together with pics of what look like a bunch of six foot cucumber pics

        14. I miss those days. On my first transatlantic flight I was given blue and white Pan Am striped slippers.

        15. Yikes! I get a window if it’s available though I sometimes get squished by “curvy” people. Beats being brushed.

        16. Small, slim Asian girls on all my flights, with a couple of gay guys thrown in for ‘diversity’.
          (AirAsia, Thai Airlines, Thai Smile, Nok Air, Philippine Airways, Cebu Pacific)

  39. So glad to read this. I have been shocked by how overwhelming the anti United response has been. My first thoughts were the two you discuss. what’s wrong with this guy and why didn’t the loudmouthed broad offer her seat if she was so incensed with the treatment of this guy. Not one of the outraged fellow passengers offered to help. Ridiculous how blue pilled America is. You don’t mess around on airplanes/in airports after 9/11.

  40. As more of the story comes out (in the red-pill world – the lame-stream media idiots won’t tell the whole story), the picture that comes out is, I predict, going to be vastly different than what the media and libs have portrayed. Spot-on commentary – the attitude of “if I don’t like the rules or am inconvenienced, I can ignore them” – should lead to more Darwin awards if there was cosmic justice.
    At least libs tend to not reproduce, self-limiting the contamination of the gene-pool.

    1. “if I don’t like the rules or am inconvenienced, I can ignore them” – should lead to more Darwin awards if there was cosmic justice.”
      69 year old males cannot participate in the Darwin awards.
      But you probably don’t even know what they are!

  41. People are fed up with the airlines and how they treat customers. I do not fly anymore because of all the drama, security theater, overbooking, weather, shitty service, the old hag/crow flight attendant that throws peanuts at you and is just begging to call security with her nasty bitch attitude if you give one back, broken, lost missing luggage…. It is just not worth it. Here is an idea ! Stop overbooking flights !!!, pay people 4x the amount of the cost of the ticket if you have to bump them put them up and pay for a hotel and then we might consider that fair…in the mean time stop the shit and acting like you are Gods…

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