The real point of the Thanksgiving tradition isn’t actually about stuffing ourselves to bursting with turkey and high-carb cheat food. As the name implies, it’s really about counting our blessings. The Manosphere gets bad press sometimes, mainly because crabby feminists don’t like men discussing our interests and concerns. Actually, women indirectly have several benefits from our efforts. Here’s why.
Women like good game
Ladies do appreciate attention from guys they like. However, lame approaches are a big turn-off. Coming on too strong is bad—“Hey, baby, how about it?” and the like. Not showing enough interest is bad—such as beating around the brush too much when she likes him but is frustrated because he never gets to the point. Bad execution doesn’t work—“Um, hi, I think you’re cute. You’re not, like, too busy to talk or anything?”
Also, it’s certainly unproductive to stand around like a dork and cast furtive glances, fearing to make an introduction. Men are socially expected to make the first move, but it takes guts to open a conversation, especially in today’s climate. Women don’t understand this, since Approach Anxiety just isn’t part of their experience. Further, doing it right requires skill. That can make all the difference between crashing and burning versus the beginning of a mutually rewarding relationship. The manosphere is here to help with both items.
People have natural desires, and it doesn’t take an evolutionary biologist to understand why. However, nobody is born knowing how to be cool and smooth. Unfortunately, many guys have terrible game. There are reasons: inexperience, lack of positive male role models, bad examples from Hollywood, and so forth. Some guys really do need even the basics described in detail. Conventional dating advice is old-fashioned and largely ineffective as a guide. The rules of the game changed—the manosphere didn’t cause this, but we tell it like it is and explain what actually does work.
Despite common misconceptions, game isn’t magic tricks or mind control. We’re increasing women’s dating pool of desirable guys, providing more men who are socially calibrated and clued into what they actually want. (That’s not always what women say they want, or even particularly intuitive.) Let’s face it—nobody learns be successful with women by watching chick flicks or the Oprah channel. So the manosphere providing information about what actually works in today’s dating scene is a win-win for everyone.
We encourage women to look better
Today’s high-tech convenience and cheap, low-quality food has led to a modern obesity epidemic. By conventional standards, this is not attractive. The feminist solution is to say these standards are wrong, promoting fat acceptance on behalf of women. This doesn’t work because people just like what they like. The pickup artist David Deangelo was really onto something with his slogan “Attraction isn’t a choice.” That one works both ways.
So women who buy into fat acceptance often end up lonely. Yes, that’s because guys are shallow, just as women are shallow when they don’t like short men. Luckily for them, getting slimmer is easier than getting taller! Actually, some guys do appreciate big gals. (I’m okay with that up to a certain point.) However, the most appreciative (chubby chasers) sometimes get criticized for “objectification” or “fetishism” or whatever. What the hell do these feminists want, anyway?
Our words can be harsh, but we’re telling the truth about what else guys really like. Long hair in natural colors is better than lawn mower haircuts and strange colors. Looking like a troll doll isn’t sexy. Men usually prefer natural skin rather than being tatted up like a sailor. Weird body modifications disrespect the human form. If women take heed, they’ll do better themselves in the dating arena.
We encourage men to look better
Although feminists try to tell guys what we should prefer, they certainly aren’t urging women to give fat men a chance. Further, although chubby chasers are a niche market among men, that’s basically nonexistent among women. Despite the lack of reciprocity, we understand that people just like what they like. Women appreciate guys who are in shape, and we’re giving them more.
We in the manosphere also are telling guys the painful truth. For us to get ahead in the dating game, we should try to look our best. We also explain how this is done. Every man who takes action and transforms his physique increases the desirable dating pool for women.
As a collateral benefit, this also promotes good health. Everyone who heeds our advice—men or women—adds years to his or her life expectancy. We all can be thankful about that, right?
We want healthy families
The traditional nuclear family model involves a husband and wife and usually two or perhaps more children. Preferably they build their family in young adulthood. Then they stay together for the long haul and don’t cheat on each other. The husband is the breadwinner, and the wife also might work if the kids are in school. Unfortunately, what was once normal and basically expected is no longer so.
The impact on family life is one of the worst results of the sexual revolution. Tradition became unfashionable with the “Me Generation”, giving way to personal whims and poor foresight. Easy divorce was another nail in the coffin. The rate of marriage has dropped to about half of what it once was—the cost/benefit analysis doesn’t look so good to men these days. Last but not least, feminists started spreading propaganda that the nuclear family is oppressive. Unfortunately, doing it their way made things much worse.
Single motherhood is no walk in the park, and is a drain on the welfare system. It makes it difficult for the children too, statistically leading to worse outcomes. A string of boyfriends in Mom’s life isn’t the same as having the father around. Waiting until middle age before trying to have children means reduced fertility and declining populations. Worse, childlessness leads to much grief; in the end, filing TPS reports isn’t as important as having a family. Abortion is emotionally damaging for the mother, and the kid has a lousy day too.
I haven’t even begun naming several other reasons why throwing out tradition was bad, but liberals—and especially feminists—are okay with all that. We in the manosphere disagree. We want strong, happy, stable families again. This is by far the best for individuals—especially the children—and for society. Many of today’s generation—both women and men—grew up in difficult circumstances from all the disorder. We want something better for the youth of the future.
We want good relations between the sexes
A nation where the sexes get along together is natural and normal. Unfortunately, the radical feminists sought to drive a wedge between us to further their political goals, and they’re still at it. Most people believe their propaganda about only wanting equal rights. Therefore, they don’t understand the true goals of feminism and their lack of character, or how extreme it gets. This really has soured the social environment, and that’s good for nobody.
This is why the manosphere refutes toxic radical feminist rhetoric and tells the truth about who they really are. Only when the job is done—which might be a while—can things settle back down to normality.
Read More: An Open Letter To Women Who Still Believe In Feminism
37 thoughts on “Women Should Give Bountiful Thanks To The Manosphere”
Agree whole heartedly and yet they continue to make poor choices.
Just read this article about the pay gap in which Jackie Lam concludes that women are still victims but yet identifies the obvious.
1. Women choose more expensive schools.
2. Women choose degrees that pay less.
3. Women choose careers that pay less.
4. Women choose to take more time off.
5. Women choose to work less.
6. We all have parents, women choose to have children.
Women make their own choices and will have to face the consequences of their choices.
“Women make their own choices and will have to face the consequences of their choices.”
Afraid not. Women can, pretty much, do whatever they please, without consequence.
Women choose useless expensive schooling, and they do this to the point of wasteful excess the same way they choose expensive useless fashion clothing on credit. Women weren’t meant to go INTO flapping school doors. No, babies were meant to come OUT her flapping clam. God gave women only two choices: whether ye be a whore, or a baby box. You pick.
Women are nothing more than teenagers that never grow up! Teenagers can’t control their emotions just like a woman of any age. They have outbursts and cry over small things such a broken nail.
For extra cash, I do temporary labouring work all the time in retail where they call in men like me in to move heavy things around. All the time, in these female only retail stores, they are always fighting and unsure on decisions. Half the time I have to step up and take control otherwise nothing will get done! These no different than watching a group of teenagers try to get things done which is at a slow rate cause they are emotional beings that will never gain control over their emotions. Date one and you know what I mean!
3. Women choose careers that pay less?
Actually women decrease the value and prestige of the careers they dominate. They don´t choose, they ruin it, that is why a female veterinarian ear less than a male farm veterinarian, The guy is literary willing to touch horse shit were women wants to work with hamsters and puppies. Guess who earn more? Both are veterinarian, same career.
The goal of today’s feminists is to ensure women pay no negative consequences for their actions, in addition to increasing the power of women in society as they make men subservient and powerless.
for every 1 woman that is killed in a work place accident at least 10 men die at work – some figures put it as high as 14 to 1.
let’s put that top of the equality in the work place discussion.
“Dear Lord, thank you for men who don’t fall for our stupid bullshit.”
Signed Every Woman (in the deepest recesses of their hearts)
Thanks for men who clean our shit.
There is a guy who literally swim in shit to do some work in the sewers, GOD BLESS THAT MAN for keeping my shit out of my house.
Women lack the foresight to recognize what is in their long-term best interests.
And the last thing they want is for you tell them what those best interest are . They want to hit the wall partying because they can
Exactly that´s why it does not matter if you do 1000 things for them, in the ends is what are you doing for ME lately the 995 thing you did before don´t add up. Women hate when you start to count all the things you do for them and all the money you spend on them, because you know why?, all women have this prostitute mentality like if all the stuff you did is nullified because she is giving you the holes.
Anyone watching roosh talk can see he clearly needs help being smooth
Is this a chick, mangina, or one of the banned boys that is still butthurt?
It’s hard to tell the difference between the three.
What’s it like being a cuck to Ronaldo ?
All one has to do is googlrsea go roosh girls bang and the women the cone up are 6s at best . Sounds like you are in love with him , you two can write gay bang together
No. He needs help understanding the basic idea that women are people, not stuff you use as you please.
You need to understand that everything women in the west have, can do, and can aspire to are due to the efforts, sacrifices, and incredible patience of MEN.
White men in particular.
You also appear in need of some help, in understanding the basic idea that almost everything you use in your daily life; ass-wipes to tampons to power/electricity to computer to internet to GYNECOLOGY; are Invented, Innovated and Pioneered by MEN.
What a shameless & ungrateful creature you are !
Roosh met notorious feminist Laurie Penney. She called him a “monster” and then admitted she wanted to fuck him. He told her to grow her hair out. She did.
I don’t know how you are interpreting the word “smooth”. But Roosh does not need help attracting and bedding women. Even those who hate him.
Sounds more like he would have no trouble bedding you
The video of 50s life is quaint and nostalgic. But realize those were the infamous boomer kids in the video. I always wonder why the actual boomer kids like Beaver Cleaver himself, which there were many, scrapped the culture a decade later in the late 60s. In the video, the 50s teen girls in the malt shops became the worst feminist scourge a decade later, abandoning their nests and their young families in the early 70s. WHAT HAPPENED to them? They looked so nice in the 50s genre. Hmmm . . maybe too nice? Something happened to them. Something backfired. And it’s like they had no resilience or immunity against the wave of culture destroying propaganda that was right around the corner in the 60s.
Strangely in the early 70s, outliers held to tradition. This video unapologetically sits on and squashes the feminist narrative. It plays like a nursery rhyme so well that no feminist can criticize it.
What a great public service commercial. If only they played it today. I listened to it again, forewards and backwards. The essence and message of the video was clear. . . “Eat that turkey and sleep it off. Then plunk that wife of yours and BREED white sumbitches BREED. Your wives’ pussies are the MORTAR CANNONS that shoot babies out. “Kathunk-kathunk-POW”, blasting and carpet bombing our great green republic with fine fresh progeny. Work those drumsticks gobble gobble. Yeah baby!”. . . aaaah. What a great old commercial. Mmmm.
While most of the points here make sense, I can’t agree that you want a good relationship between the sexes. All the posts on this site talk about how women are the enemy, women are inferior, women don’t deserve rights… That doesn’t seem like you want a life partner to raise a family with or even someone you view as a person, to have a good relationships with.
Direct us to where these things have been said about women?
Just in every third article possible. Examples of poor women leaders used for generalization (as if all male leaders were great), examples of poor moms used for generalization (as if there were no asshole fathers, and plenty of single moms left to fend for themselves by jerks) and so on.
No feminist site spreads hate towards men the way this site spreads hate towards all women, and no feminist site promotes mistreating men the way this site promotes mistreating women and “training them”.
No feminist site promotes “training” men to be your absolute servants or anything like that. Because feminist sites recognize men as individuals with a right to their own choices. The very thing women-hating sites like this fail to do.
I ask for an example, and I still wait on one. One, please. Just fucking one (which I know to you girls in the Western world, fucking just one is impossible)
“Women must have their behavior controlled by men” has some examples of this site’s belief that women don’t deserve rights. “She must seek approval by her guardian concerning *diet, education, boyfriends, travel, friends, entertainment, exercise regime, marriage, and appearance, including choice of clothing*.” Another example from the same post, “Women would not be able to visit establishments that serve alcohol without a man present to supervise her consumption. Parental control software on electronic devices would be modified for women to control and monitor the information they consume. *Credit card and banking accounts must have a male co-signer who can monitor her spending. Curfews for female drivers must be enacted so that women are home by a reasonable hour.* ” The entire post commends stripping women of their right to an education, driving, own a credit card, etc. without the express permission of a male guardian.
Women aren’t leaders, pal. You can stick them in pre-made leadership slots, but they are not capable of leadership, except in the case of leading young children (which they can do very well at). Single moms are a disaster in so many ways for kids, men, society and themselves for that matter. If you don’t realize this then you probably never shall.
“All the posts on this site talk about how women are the enemy..”
No. True women we love. Women who live as first rate women (instead of second rate men) are beloved by all men of value.
Our forefathers fought wars to protect these kinds of women of the past…choking on their own blood in WW1 trenches clutching a pic of their sweethearts.
Tho, even in those days there were some women of bad behavior too, but normal women would help keep them in check ..sadly, these women seemed to have disappeared in today’s society.
Eg. In occupied France, during WW2, some young French women were known to have had drunken nights out and flings with some of the German soldiers/officers..even relationships.
After the war, other French women rounded them up and cut off all their hair in public.
“[A]s if all male leaders were great…”
“[A]s if there were no asshole fathers, and plenty of single moms left to fend for themselves by jerks…”
Okay, name a country or a military campaign led by a woman that established a lasting contribution to Western Civilization? As for ‘asshole fathers’ and ‘jerks,’ that certainly says more about a woman’s criteria and selection of a partner.
Anything that has logic behind it is sexist!
My wife appreciated me telling her” I won’t let you talk to me like that.” Call women on their bullshit, you are doing both of you a favor. They are truly out of control of their emotions like children. Maybe teenagers at best. All those shit tests are to be scoffed at.
Appreciate the thoughtful article and comments.
I am very thankful and say thank you with a smiling face to all men moving or carrying heavy items, opening doors, giving great advice, or just passing the time standing in line. To me, we women have tons to be thankful for if it were not for men.
Mr. Roosh was very kind and took the time to write me back once. I appreciated his view, and the time he took to reply. I do appreciate all men. Yes, even if they are rude to me. One should always act with class and not be an a## as my father would say.
(father’s advice) Don’t cuss. (especially ladies) It gives the impression those are the only words one knows, and makes one look commonly low.
When I don’t know what to do in a situation and have to made a decision on my own, I hear my father as well as my husband in my head. My dad passed away in 2002 and I still miss him terribly. A father can have a monumental influence and hold on a daughter, son, or grandchildren growing up.
Thank you for allowing me to post.
Women retained 100% of rights over newborns.
When not together when was the last time a man took the child home from the hospital?
It should be 50% of occasions.
Its like talking about equal pay without women going to school. Men will only get equal custody, women will only choose better men, and women will only begin to think when that bastard could literally take the child home and she may be paying him half her income for 18 years.
THEY WANTED OUR TRADITIONAL SPACE IN SOCIETY BUT WILL NEVER GIVE OVER THEIR ROLES
BITCHES AINT SHIT