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How To Counter Bleak Dating Prospects In 2018

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The gradual decline of Western societies haven’t stopped, although it might have bottomed out. Further, as Roosh stresses in his recapitulation of life lessons from 2017, game is getting harder. Even good-looking guys have to date down, largely due to social media-addicted girls whose egos are as big as a Brazilian butt on Copacabana.

When so much has been written and said about this topic, one may wonder if there’s something substantial to add. Although one should skip most of the basics at this point, I think that there will always be new angles and perspectives since societies and markets develop in way or another. Bloomberg does constantly write about economy while ROK focuses on game (among a variety of other subjects), and both with the understanding that these fields change, although certain principles remain constant.

While I haven’t figured out something truly innovative about the future yet, there are nevertheless a few points that need to be emphasized and show that a man can do better with the help from taking action and making proper decisions. Sometimes that process goes pretty fast, which is promising for this new year.

Style improvement

Even in urban environments I am almost startled by how bad many guys dress. For example, when I was about to enter a top-tier club in Miami for a couple of years ago, several guys in the line were not let in because they wore sneakers and badly fitting jeans. Sure there are hipsters and the corporate guys in black suits, but even them are no match for a man with a perfect balance between traditional masculinity and flamboyant metrosexuality.

I’ve realized that this type of style is so great, because it’s not just about peacocking (which is a sociobiological phenomenon) and looking more like the prototype of a celebrity, but a way to connect with women’s penchant for aesthetics. As long as you maintain masculinity you will not be looked upon as a gay fashion designer, but an urbane mating/dating prospect.

Body fat

Studies have shown that lower levels of body fat are associated with higher testosterone and greater aesthetic appeal. There are exceptions to this, such as the so-called ectomorph body type who instead has to focus on building muscles more than anything else, but most Western men have to shred down in parallel with hitting weights.

Try to hit the 10% body fat level, but realize that this is rather relative and that 12-13% are also appropriate.

Intranational migration (travel or semi-permanent)

One angle that has to be more in the focal point in the near future is intranational migration, meaning to move temporarily or permanently within one’s home country. Metropolitan cities like New York, Washington DC and Los Angeles are not representative for the entire US, but neither are fat states like West Virginia, Mississipi, Alabama and Arkansas.

Perhaps a man who feels that California and New York are too competitive for him, should try Colorado, Utah, Idaho or Montana instead. Although they are no poosy paradises there are at least difference of degrees in hell. Less of the urban whore and SJW and more of tradthots. Field reports from writers and readers are desirable.

International migration (travel or semi-permanent)

Another method is to try international love migration, such as a trip to Manila, Bangkok, Jakarta, Rio De Janeiro or Bogota.

Although there are much more places than these five—like for instance Malta, Japan, Ukraine, Dominican Republic, South Korea and St. Petersburg—we know at this point that for a variety of reasons some locations are more optimal than others. That will save you both time and money. All because of sites like ROK, Roosh V Forum, and Swoop the World.

Multiple game strategies

Lastly, multiple game strategies are the way to go, although you should be extra precautious if living in SJW-infested locations like Canada, Australia, UK, US or Sweden. Be a generalist, don’t only focus on online game but use all kinds of available social circles, day game, and night games strategies. That will likely increase your chances and lead to an abundance mentality.

Game is also “evolutionary” in that sense that it naturally filters out those methods that are deemed unworthy to hold on to at the individual level. If you, for example, get most of your scores from online game and social circle game, then focus less on night game and day game (or vice versa).

In summary

I could bet that many guys already do these things, but I am also confident by saying that many don’t do them at all, and that those who have made some efforts have much more to do. Start 2018 with the plan of implementing these, in conjunction with long-term self-improvement like making more money, and you’ll eventually see some pink light in the present black tunnel.

For more of William Adams’ material, check out his website Syncretic Politics.

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85 thoughts on “How To Counter Bleak Dating Prospects In 2018”

  1. No game shaming here but someone has got to ask:
    What is the end game here?
    And what is the ROI? You are going to travel around the country/world to pick up women for one night stands? All that effort for a quickie?
    Or do you want to settle down with someone? If the latter, there is a high chance the girl who does do a one night stand with you isn’t going to be a very committed housewife/life partner.

      1. Yes that is all good, so you must have a plan and goals and deadlines for things you are doing alongside gaming. Then your travel will be purposeful and your days eventful. And having this focus will automatically improve your game.

    2. Well its a trade off cuz age is a factor for a prime young girl…u can fitter time away with turd world whores playing good girl thatll take money or green card given the chance. Or u can go to ukraine an wife humt n risk the same thing but not as likely.
      Or just game an hour outside the major city. Least u can find a good girl there

    3. I did what the author suggested, and captured a wife (entirely by accident) in the process. I’m not entirely sure how committed she is as a housewife/life partner, but we’ve been together nearly 10 years and had children, so that’s not a bad start.

  3. One needs to constantly change love travel destinations. Chicks from bangkok or ukraine have wised up to western men’s pick up strategies. So, expect a bit of resistance from them, although it’s nothing even remotely close to shittests in the US. Arab and Central Asian chicks are, in my opinion, the most dewy-eyed lot. Especially, kazakhstan, uzbekistan and few other “stans.” I was thinking of visiting this part of the world and measure the girth of some semi-white gypsy pussies.

  4. “but a way to connect with women’s penchant for aesthetics.”
    Women are the un-aesthetic sex, words of Schopenhauer.
    Taste cannot be explained or taught — you either have it or not.
    Most women have bad taste and a tasteful man knows that.
    Men should not try to appeal to women’s taste, that is pedestalization. Women are poor idiots with stupid solipsistic ideas. They are not the truth and their taste isn’t the right one. Tasteful man acts accordingly: he follows HIS taste and not that of ‘women’ or anyone else, and if the morons don’t like it, he will laugh them off as the tasteless morons that they are. Which are most people nowadays by the way (the man of taste knows it).
    Anyways dressing to impress ladies doesn’t even work anymore. Maybe it was appreciated once upon a time. Modern women often like men who don’t give a fuck. The ones who need the man to be dressed in a certain way…that’s already a bad premise, a woman who will want to control you, your taste and choices, and needs a ‘normie’ who just plys by the rules, starting with clothing. A free man whose aim in life is to be the best he can be and not another mediocre normie, wants nothing to do with her. Because SHE DOES NOT DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD OR BAD…it’s not selfish rebellion, it’s adherence to facts of reality.

    1. Haha some moron thumbing me down just because I said women dont decide what is beautiful? RETARD. Only a fucking idiot thinks women decide whats beautiful, moron. They dont, its FACT, everything else is Stockholm Syndrome, moron.

        3. Your thumbs down means I am right and you are wrong. Retard.
          YOU DO NOT DECIDE WHAT IS TRUE. Comment this. Do you decide what is true?

    2. Most people have no taste, anyone disagreeing has no taste. Period, you lose. ITS ARRIGANT TO BELIEVE THAT YOUR IDEAS OF BEAUTY ARE FACTUAL. retard anyonw who does that. YOUR IDEAS OF BEAUTY ARE NOT FACTS, period. They’re questionable opinions and that’s fact. Anyone who disagrees is a fucking idiot and wrong, and loses.
      YOUR IDEAS OF BEAUTY ARE NOT FACTS BUT OPINIONS. PERIOD. Case closed you lose.

      1. Serious question: Are you really this illiterate, or is this just for shits and giggles, misspelling as many words as you can?

    3. “The lady, she is a fine petard, but is as bitter as the mustard seed. Though in her youth she may be a tender as a shoot, it is incontrovertible that this is not a true revelation of her nature.”
      – Francis Wilwright, Deodecasian Musings, 1894

    4. good post tasteless. dont mind these american retards here. they are slaves who still worship celebrities etc. they all want to be popular ROK got taken over by extreme wimps.

      1. Thanks you wolf. You did a good thing stating and reminding of reality. Needs to happen more often. But I am happy you did it, once. Very happy. Truth has been stated, once.

      2. Wanting to be popular is what infantile morons do. All of them are not even adults, if they think its strange to NOT want to be popular. Its amazing how many of these morons exist, and of course pollute the internet. The internet has become shitty as a result. Too many stupid children. We need selectivity and snobbery, to have some sense. Most people do not understand things. Curse unselective commenting. It’s almost impossible to have normal reasonable conversation on internet forums nowadays, and the morons are so unaware of that, they think one who gives up is crazy.
        They just don’t accept that they might be wrong. That is narcissism.
        Tasteless people think beauty is fact and is what their tastelessness define. As I said there’s nothing to be done about it unfortunately. It is very frustrating. The tasteless proclaim shit is beautiful. THEY DON’T LISTEN OR CONSIDER OTHER POINTS OF VIEW. THEY ARE FACTUALLY STUBBORN AND ARROGANT and dare to deny that. They seem to have no concept of different opinions!
        The military-like conformism of american children is…the end of the world, no more and no less. It’s gone…it’s fucking gone.

  5. Ya kno wat I do. I jus be a roof,ie da biaetch an be dun with it. Peopel on dis forum put too much emphasize on the “game” craep. I dun even care if they good lookin or not, liek i go after them blue hair tumlr chiks with them staenk poosy or i overlook ugli beowbs or buzcut an jus get my freik on. Ya’ll dudes just too damyn picky. I ain’t travelin to eastern europe. I jus stay here in america ad just try to maek the best of everything here. who cares, it jus poosy, you can just pretend it some girl in the poerno movies if it make you feel better so you nut or watever. If you feel the po’po gonna taek you down, jus skip town and never giv a skaenk yur real name or number. Also grow a beard and/or shave it from time to time and change and dye your hair, but not to look good for da ladies, jus so you dont get caught becaus it a dangerus world there if you a man.

    1. Yeh, I’m a dyke and I done the very same things as you do, but it’s OK because I’m a WOMAN. If you or any other MAN does things like that, then they are a RAPIST and deserve to go to JAIL!!!

  6. Also the asian with fake eyebrows and piercing:
    piercing and tattoos are bad taste, ROK stated this multiple times.
    Eccess make-up and those stupid fake eyebrows = stupid.
    You are free to be as tasteless as you like, there is nothing I can do about it. She’s trash and tasteless, period. If you don’t get it, you lose. Go fuck that tasteless midget if you can, I don’t envy you.
    I am not even a traditionalist at all. I’m all for modern and new styles. That doesn’t mean all women should have those stupid fake eyebrows and that they don’t look terrible, both things are unfortunately happening.
    Having any attraction for most modern women is lack of taste. They’re fucking ugly. Yeah, I guess I would fuck even that repulsive midget if I was drunk…absolutely…and I would puke at the mirror once I regain my senses.
    My problem isn’t that I don’t get more women, my problem is that I find most modern women horrible aesthetically, they’re trash. It is very sad to me, absolutely. I wish they were less trash and thus I would find them more attractive and be willing to pursue them. But all good, I have had my sex fun anyway, an experience as another, which absolutely should be done as it’s part of life. Part of.
    I don’t give a fuck whether you guys agree with me or not. Irrelevant.

  7. My radical tactic is to make things harder for myself. My rules of going out:
    1. Don’t bring a mobile phone. This will eliminate the possibility of a number close.
    2. Don’t bring a wingman. Go solo always. This will force you to interact rather than sit on the sidelines.
    3. Don’t use internet for dating. No tinder, no OK Cupid, nothing. This will force you to meet real girls.
    4. Don’t waste more than 15 minutes on any one girl. If you can’t close within 15 move on.

    1. Oh yeah, forgot a couple more:
      5. Don’t spend a single cent on the girl.
      6. Don’t go to any club/pub that is more than walking distance from your pad. You will find it exponentially easier to take them home when you can say, “My place is a 5 minute walk from here.” I always make sure I live close to the action.

        1. Uh, I’ve used this strategy for roughly 10 years and I don’t have much trouble with the ladies (partly because I’m not an ugly fuck), but enough about me, how’s your tinder going for ya?

      2. I appreciate your points but like you said, what someone can get away with is based upon their SMV. If you’re good looking, you can be more demanding.
        I’m not good looking.
        When I was single, I found that it was nearly impossible for me to get laid without spending money on the woman and in the few cases I did, they tore into it later in the relationship making it worthless (although it did help make it easier to move on from them.)
        (Ugly) Old timer advice:
        Bad dates:
        1) Traditional dinner dates.
        2) Buying women drinks at clubs.
        3) Buying women drinks at bars.
        Good dates:
        1) Activity dates with cheap food such as minigolf, tennis or hiking with a picnic basket. It sounds like it’s out of an old western (and it is) but the women seemed to think the food tasted better because they burned all the calories beforehand (feed them AFTER you exercise them.)
        2) Cook dinner at BBQ’s in the park, etc. Again, it’s fun and deemphasizes your use as an ATM.
        Get out of the clubs. Like tinder, they cause the attention whore women to set high expectations and demands for clown game.
        Although it was a funny line in Something About Mary, it’s true: Wanking IS good luck. Trying to get a normal woman to go on a one night stand requires putting in the same LOE as guys who got PhD’s. Which is more worth it? Putting up with inane conversation and games for years to get laid under such conditions perhaps 40 times or developing an asset that will provide a lifetime of security and comfort for yourself and a future family?
        And even the guys I know who were successful at this routine weren’t totally safe. One had a crazy woman ransack his apartment. Another went around telling men where she works how she was hurt by him and tried to get him beaten up. The Hugh Hefner lifestyle is great for Hugh Hefner but for the rest of us, it just doesn’t work.

      3. Re 5.
        I’m a master of the coffee shop date and paradoxically, it’s the goldigging hoes who insist on paying everytime. They’ll try to delay sex, as if to disguise the fact that they’re a hoe and then drop the act after you’ve fucked them a couple times. Takes good game to keep them as they’re constantly keeping their options open. Best to have some fun for 2 weeks and cut them off.
        More traditional girls will sit back and be physically happy that such an incredible guy wants to buy her a coffee and spend an hour or two together. They won’t delay and allow it to happen naturally that night, or the second date. There is no third date.

    2. Whats the problem with tinder? I like tinder. (I’m not saying I don’t do anything else)

      1. My problem with tinder is it’s too easy, takes away the skill. To be successful all you need is a photo or two that aren’t shit and a manufactured bio that isn’t too long that ticks the right boxes. Anyone can do it with the right guidance.
        On the other hand, even with all the best game knowledge it still takes balls to put it into action. It’s also not like riding a bicycle, you need to constantly work at it. And, in the process, you gain useful skills for many areas of life, e.g. going for a job interview. Since I got good at sales I got good at game and I got good at first impressions. This has made my life exponentially freer as I can jump from country to country, job to job and not give two seconds worth of stress as to whether I’m going to fail or not. Tinder doesn’t provide those skills, game does.

  8. I had one woman yell and take 3 steps back when I tried to daygame her… I’ve tried daygaming in the states with about a 1% success rate . Low key bars and online has worked better for me

  9. I have to agree with Strategy King. Sex alone isn’t worth the trouble of pursuing women. Unless she’s cooking for me or introducing me to new ways I can make passive income, she’s a ghost as far as I’m concerned.
    We need to start thinking about the endgame: What can this woman do for me that will benefit my life long-term?
    ONSs are risky endeavors. My mentality for 2018 is the following: If all she has to offer is sex, then her endgame (100% of the time) is to impregnate herself and turn that lottery ticket into free goodies provided by the government.

    1. Yes you’re right. If a girl has nothing more to provide except sex, her endgame is to get children and the welfare which goes along (from a guy or the gov).
      That means men are disposable To them.

  10. I once had a girl scream while trying to daygame her . I the USA game is good for post wall sluts at a low key bar or online . For hot n young girls you need to be a drug dealer , rich boy from daddy’s money or a DJ , or working at a nightclub .

  11. I agree that western women are bottomless pits of need, however, it’s not as bleak as all that. I believe women have developed an incredible sense for thirst. You talk about ZFG attitude and “You’re the Prize” abundance mentality. It is THE key. You will have as many women as you wish behaving in such a manner. It is not difficult to get dates/laid/entertained by women. If sex is the by product of dating women, rather than the goal, you will have more than you could ever want. Get off Tinder; get in churches/social clubs/centers of influence. Going abroad for a wife is time consuming, expensive and fraught with peril now. “The good old days” abroad are gone. Everyone is “woke”, no matter where you go. Hypergamy is biology, no matter where she’s from. Get in the game and play for fun with a joyful spirit.

    1. knuckeldragger – “ZFG attitude and “You’re the Prize” abundance mentality”
      This is so last year dude – everybody knows about this, that why it isn’t working as well anymore. Maybe 4-5’s are swooned, but 8-9s are used to it.
      So what happens when 75% of dudes have this? What’s your next plan? It’s an endless chase and the females don’t have to do anything to reciprocate. You get swole and groomed and wear $800 watches and $1000 suits. Ha ha joke’s on you, because there’s always a sharper, more handsome dude she’ll be looking out for. Only strong cultural boundaries and resource limits dampen hypergamy. Resource limits stem from FEWER MALES. That’s the only solution.

  12. wow, you guys are a bunch of fucking oddballs. If you want to counter the bleak dating prospects in 2018, stop alternating between jerking one another off and crying about how hard life is and try to be fuckin’ men

  13. All this boilds down to become pretty so women will say you are cute and your validation will go up a little bit when you bang her. Doesn’t seem like a solution really.

    1. Neither is masturbation. Neither is MGTOW. At least with game you get to overcome approach anxiety, learn sales skills and increase your notch count. Sure, I don’t care about notches now that I’m in the triple digits, but when I die at least I can say I fucked hundreds of girls. May be trivial but it’s better than boasting about wacking off 7 times a week.

  14. Don’t tell idiots from LA and NYC to migrate to rural areas. You’ll get shot, fuckboi.

  15. This article is another of a thousand band-aids that will solve nothing. In fact it has all been said before: “up your game”, “take it up a notch”, “work even harder”…. yeah OK.
    The point Roosh may have hinted at, and other game bloggers have observed, women are becoming harder to impress because more and more men are learning aspects of game. It’s already at the point where you have handsome, sharp dudes, impeccably groomed, slim and in shape – out on the town with chubby, sloppy, drunken 5s. Just look at photos of last year’s Brittain “Ladies Day” and New Years: Sharp dudes with sloppy chunky trashy ho’s.
    So go ahead and bust your ass making yourself the best you can be so you can bang a 6-7 slut. You are a dead-end. Your pursuits have diminishing returns, already approaching zilch.
    Better advice is to spend your time and energy preparing for global war and genocide which will happen with 100% certainty. Prepping, weapons, and survival proficiency and a fortified safe-haven, which beyond your survival, may even have the benefit of bringing starving ho’s to your door, who will let you fuck them for some rations. Think not? You’d be wrong as that’s exactly what happened in Viet Nam.

    1. Bad example with the UK. Have you been there? The ratio of fugly to not fugly girls is roughly 10:1 (without an ounce of exaggeration).

      1. I correct your ratio to 100:1, UK women are almost the worst in the world (‘almost’ because Australian women win that prize)

        1. Trying to avoid going “racial” these days, but there are groups here in the states that are most likely even worse than your Brit women. Including a large majority of the white females as well. I would say less than 10% of the females I see daily are somewhat attractive attractive. “Very Attractive” is probably under 5%.

        2. @ John, you’re right, 100:1 is closer to the ratio I saw when I was there, just didn’t want to exaggerate.
          As for Australian girls, I lived there, never dated one, stuck to foreigners, but I lived in Sydney, the cunt capital of that shithole country. Having said that, if you go to the Sunshine Coast there are a tonne of hot girls there. Of course, the minute they open their mouths and you hear that accent they lose about 4 points, but still, I’d have to give Australia the prize for less fugly girls in comparison to the UK.

        3. South African girls are okay.
          If you had to find white women who are not mud sharks you might meet one in Oz.

  16. This article is laughable in its pretention. Women with any class at all (and brains in their heads, which is…all of them) wouldn’t touch you or any so-called “man” who subscribes to ROK ideology with a ten-foot pole. Maybe you’re dating down because women who know better are too busy dating men who are good enough for them. Sounds like sexual selection to me; good luck passing on your maldeveloped genes and 1950s values.

      1. Lol the retard believes rating numbers are indisputable facts.
        YOUR GIRLS IS A 2, PERIOD. fact.

    2. Thats why my opener is ” Im a vegan liberal who hates trump.”
      My closer is writing MAGA on her ass cheeks in white

  17. Get in shape should be at the top. You would look good in just about anything you wear within reason. Don’t dress like a slob. Once you get your life in order, you wouldn’t dress that way because you will have self confidence.
    Remember, the only person you need to impress is yourself. Once you are comfortable with yourself, people are more attracted to you and it is you that others seek for approval.

  18. “There are exceptions to this, such as the so-called ectomorph body”
    You rang?
    But seriously, may ectomorphs have high testosterone, going by sex drive anyway. Maybe its the “fast metabolism”?

      1. I am not saying that ectomorphs neceassarily have low testosterone, although it is likely that they have, but that they already are thin and should focus less on the body fat part and more on building muscles than anything else in this regard.

      2. @ Fitz
        No I haven’t researched it, but I was born with an ectomorphic frame and I have always been a horny bastard. Still going strong even at my “advanced” age.

    3. I can’t understand why people downvote that.
      Some big ass guys who struggle with their bodyfat for sure.

      1. Yeah, me either.
        An ectomorph can still be in decent shape, too.
        Anyone can work out. Just because you don’t move 300lb (or even 200) on the bench doesn’t mean you can’t be fit.

        1. Moreover, a thin guy seems To have more T than a fat one with manboobs.
          More fat means less Testosterone. So no fat means all T is used in more efficient ways.

  19. Absolutely true that dudes who dress like closed-casket fashion roadkill with stupid overzised fedoras and weezy sneakers and catwalk bullshit, but without actually being effeminate, they slay

  20. We have entered the tail-end of the diminishing returns curve. No matter how athletic, well spoken, psychically appealing you are no matter the job you have the money you make, no matter your IQ or wisdom – if you’re not on this list getting pussy is more trouble than it’s worth
    – minority/immigrant background
    – rich arab/nigerian prince or independently wealthy
    – social-media fame
    – entertainment industry connections
    the best you can hope for is a one night stand with an 7-8 (9 if you’re lucky) otherwise say hello to the “5-6-7 purgatory” or if you’re not that attractive the “< 5 hell”
    There is no country to normal straight white men anymore, all we get are scraps from the table or we need to work 5x-10x as hard for the same return a “Tyrone or Jamal” gets handed to him for near free.

    1. South America and Asia are full of cute women looking for white guys. You need to travel outside the white west.

    2. You know, Roosh says the opposite. Black guys have a lot harder time to get white women. There are black-groupie exceptions of course, I’m talking bout the average minded woman.

      1. I would actually say it’s easy for almost any guy of any race to bang a chick for one night. The problem is finding a wife and mother, and blacks have as much trouble as us when it comes to that. The ugly truth is most women would prefer a house full of cats to a ‘life partner’.

        1. I would agree with finding a TRADITIONAL wife and mother. Especially ater you lived a life as a player/PUA for 10 years. It’s not SO difficult to find a traditional minded Evangelical, Mormon, Chassidic Jew or traditional-Catholic wife if you are a devout Evangelical, Mormon, Chassidic Jew or traditionalist Catholic yourself. You can easily join such a church or community (as a Jew, you can easily enough become a Baal Teshuva, a returnee to tradition), but you cannot pass as truly devout and frum if you aren’t, you can’t fake it.
          In these traditionalist communities you could even find a virgin with some effort.
          I find that many many girls are looking for a LTR and even for a prospective husband. But they aren’t virgins, they don’t want to adhere to a traditionalist life-style or female role and yes, they will cheat on you at some point in the marriage – to be fair: as will the man. Know that, get yourself a partnership/marriage counsular or therapist if it happens, get “your” children DNA checked to make sure they are truly yours – and your good. My 2/c.

  21. It would be nice to have an author or two dedicated more to the end game of the relationship game instead of just playing it.
    I know a large product of “end game” writings in simply a product of the growth of game itself Harken back to the beginnings in the late 90’s and early 2000’s and game practitioners were far from mainstream, and in their teens and early 20’s. The thoughts of relationship end game possibility were distant from most or if completely non-existent. Then when PUA stuff starting hitting mainstream about 10-15 years ago anyhow who came out asking the question was usually derided for the mere thought of not spending your days chasing tail, spinning multiple plates, endless dating, etc.
    But, now you have some of the original PUAs approaching their late 30’s and early 40’s. Some of those guys are starting to drop out the scene through attrition (or maybe quiet relationship choice) and there is little guidance from men out there on options and paths middle age other then just work out, keep you T high, and keep on doing the same thing.
    I think many RoK readers would find some writings in this area, which Roosh has touched upon a few times over the years, very eye-opening.

    1. People can read and think what they want, but there are articles here that transcend the more short-term getting laid game thinking and acting, such as this one: http://www.returnofkings.com/129438/how-to-adjust-when-moving-from-hedonistic-pua-to-long-term-lover
      The thing is that when people ask about the end game they are sometimes misguided. Listen, to just get anything from females who are 6 or better these days is damn hard for most non-celeb or non-top-1-percent guys, regardless of you only want a short fling or looking for more LTR or even marriage. And guys who want to get married should have some kind of game as well, so all of the game and self-improvement tips really are linked to both short-term and long-term mating/dating for the bulk of men.
      I agree that ROI is extremely important and it would be a bit weird to travel to a country or move within the US only to meet girls, but it is an interesting experience. For instance my trips to Japan and South Korea are so much more than just dating thin and feminine young women.

  22. I’m 49 and getting more hot women in their 20s than i ever did when younger. I’m also one of those guys who gets past the velvet rope for free in Miami/Vegas while the rich frat boys with untucked shirts wait in line all night. Like the ZZ Top song, women love a sharp dressed man. Work out, learn how to dress, learn to dance, lead an interesting & uncommon life. Remember the key mantra of Robert Greene’s masterpiece “The art of seduction: if a woman believes her life is more exciting with you in it, then you’ve already scored… all you have to do is not screw it up. Realize that the most desirable and attractive women are bombarded with unwanted attention: creepy mail, terrible approaches, stalkers, harassment at work etc. they hate weakness and clinginess so give them some space and try to be understanding while also projecting strength which to a degree go together. All of this can be done for very little money, especially if your lifestyle involves the outdoors. in the US, if you are unwilling to spend money or offer drugs to women (as I refuse to do), then it will be difficult for you to compete in the big cities. One of the best strategies then, is like learning to dress, do what other suckers will not: drive! Date 35-100 miles out of your city center, where you will find gorgeous women who are starved to find a man who knows what he is doing and who have very modest matrial expectations if any. Dating overseas is cool, but from my expert friends: “the only place that’s true ‘sodom & gamorrah is thailand.’ When you factor in the travel, language and cultural barriers, it’s debatable whether you come out any cheaper… each culture has its own hustles, and in the end other than SE Asia and Japan, white American millenial women raised on porn really ARE the best sluts and most obedient sex partners in true alpha hands. My advice: do the work to become more attractive and find yourself an appreciative naughty, all American country girl;-)

    1. I’m a girl, you have really good advice. I actually think you get it. Especially about being willing to drive, that is so true. Also, I did some online dating, and something I realized is that guys aren’t proactive about making the first and second dates materialize.
      They try to play this game where they ask you on a second date, but they’re also busy every day into the next week and keep rescheduling. It’s not only oxymoronic, it’s a total mood-killer. It makes me feel like they’re the girl and I’m the guy, or that the guy is skittish. And I’m not putting out or anything, so you’d think it would be in their interest to see me dressed-up and present. The whole thing just doesn’t add up. Not being a flake, but being the inertia of the arrangement is key. Actually making the date happen is huge, and nobody does it.
      This is ridiculous. You’re a 49 year old dating 20-somethings, because you aren’t socially retarded. There’s clearly a shortage. Millennials are lacking some kind of masculinity sixth sense.

      1. If you didn’t shag me on the first date, there won’t be a second. I’m guessing the guys constantly ‘rescheduling’ have the same MO as I.

      2. Thanks for the kind words. In fairness though, I look better and am in better shape than many men half my age and wear out my 20 something dates on sheer lust for life. There #1 complaint of women is that men do not listen. If a man takes care of himself and pays attention to what women actually want, age matters way less than ppl think; I’ve dated prodigies as young as 19. Meanwhile, at colleges, dudes are holed up playing video games, working in cubicle free Marxist “one big happy family” millenial worktables, allowing google to assign them one of 17 genders and enrolling in demasculization courses. Is it any wonder that it’s easier than ever for a guy like me?

        1. What a guy is really showing-off when he takes charge of things like that, even the little things, is the male impetus. That’s what women date for.
          Not selfies. Hecc wants a male selfie?

    2. You’re even making ZZTop references, which is cringey, and still getting 20-something girls. All because you nail the basics. This is basic protocol that everyone should do.

  23. The photos in the article imply- Be a K-Pop- fag, be a gymcel fag, hang around schoolyards, idolize a minghag on Instagram.. Great advice 🙁

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