How To Get Good With Girls Through Embracing Mundanity

When guys think about game they fantasize about the end result—that is, a beautiful girl in their bed. What they don’t consider is the work that it takes to get there: work that involves adrenaline-fuelled rejection, yes, but which is also often simply mundane.

Embracing mundanity is essential if you are going to succeed in any area of life, from game to business to sports to writing. You must be willing to get down and dirty and do the grunt work if you are to see great results from any endeavour. It’s not glamorous, it’s not especially fun, but it is absolutely essential, however unfortunate that may seem.

In the case of running a business, there are plenty of less-than-exciting tasks that must be done regularly if you are to succeed. You must, for example, regularly report income and expenditure to your accountant (if you have one). You must attend to your social media presence on a daily basis (if you’re in the online sphere, at least). You must also analyse your sales regularly to see what is working and what isn’t. You should also consider your working practices to determine whether or not what you are doing is putting you in the best position to succeed.

Of course, you can outsource some of these tasks if you have the budget to do so. But unless you literally pay other people to do everything—not usually practical in the case of a startup—then you will have to do a proportion for yourself.

Which leads us back to my opening remark: all too often people think only about the success they hope to achieve, and not about the nuts and bolts of process that will take them there.

Yes, visualization is great and it works. But in the case of meeting and attracting girls, whether you are looking for casual fun or something more serious, there is a little-acknowledged ‘admin’ side that can be daunting and dull.

For one thing, you need to keep approaching in order to generate new ‘leads’. Whether you are doing so in person through cold approach, or via a dating app like Tinder, this can get samey pretty fast. Why? Because after a while—and as your approach anxiety begins to fade—you will start to realise that these encounters all follow a common pattern. In many cases girls will ask you the same few questions (how old are you? Do you always hit on girls in the street? etc.) and their life stories won’t exactly be radically different to each other.

Going on dates can be even worse. There was a time a while back when I was going on five dates or more a week. Despite being an introvert I am a fairly sociable guy, and I find getting to know new people interesting. However, dates can be formulaic, and when you stack one after another it’s like going on a series of job interviews.

Of course, it is the successful seducer’s job to make each date exciting and unique. By this I don’t mean taking her skydiving or bungee jumping or the like: a few drinks at your local lounge is enough. But you should be aiming to inject sufficient charisma and excitement into the proceedings to get her hooked. But this is only possible up to a point. After that it is hard to avoid a certain commonality where each date begins to look a little like the last.

This commonality is also to be found in the texting back and forward that you will do with girls you meet. These days—and for a long time—I have found myself using the same stock openers, stacks and teases over messenger. This is less because I am unoriginal and more because they work. Of course, I will also introduce random new elements, and each new girl will inspire twists and variations on well-trodden conversational themes. But in the main, messaging is an admin task like any other.

Learn To Love The Process, Man

I don’t intend this to be one of those ‘learn to love the process’ articles, because let’s face it, process sucks, especially when it’s boring. All I want is for everything to be easy. All I want is to say hi to a girl and have her sleep with me immediately off the back of it. But it doesn’t work like that.

So rather than learning to love the process, I would counsel you to come to embrace the process. There’s a subtle difference. Yes, texting multiple girls, or sending out many Tinder or dating site openers, or going on hundreds of dates, can get tedious and even frustrating. But when you visualise that shiny, golden ‘thing’ that you want at the end of the process—in this case sex with a beautiful girl—then you must simultaneously accept that the price you have to pay for it is the work you will put in. The two things are inextricably linked. And once you do so then you will find that doing the grunt work required is a little less irksome than before.

The other great advantage you have as a player is that while the individual actions you must take each time to facilitate a lay are pretty much identical—approach, say this, text that, escalate now, etc—each girl is different. And it is this which gives the practice of game its interest and excitement. Focus on your desire to get to know this particular girl and going through the motions will be far less painful than they otherwise might be.

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86 thoughts on “How To Get Good With Girls Through Embracing Mundanity”

  1. Great article, Troy!
    This learning to love the process is where great stories come from.

    1. I will share a few things that work for me. I treat everyone with class and respect, so this is automatic when I approach women. While I’m respectful, I’m never needy. I don’t hide my lust, but I don’t wear it on my sleeve. I want them to sense my inner beast, my big appetite. But at the same time, I subtly let them know I have standards I won’t compromise, and that includes how I’m to be respected and treated. If the woman has a profound disrespect for men, I can tell this right away and I don’t pursue. If she has too many screws loose, I don’t pursue. Standards mean eliminating most of the bad stuff up front. You only pursue worthy candidates.

    1. Troy wants attention like a woman. “Follow me on Globohomo Inc. social media!”

        1. That kitchen looks a little plain considering the pictures of the girls he’s supposedly gaming and with the baby bottle in the background he must throwing down some dad game on them high dolla single mommies

        2. It might be an empty bottle of washing up liquid. But it still looks very bedsit/serviced apartment-esque. More like what I’d expect to see from a normal worker moving to a new country, rather then a PUA selling a lifestyle.

      1. Hey, if it’s manly to seek status, Troy’s a huge man, and not a homo. I learned a lot of good from his articles over the years. If you disagree, I welcome you to dig deeper.

    2. @Troy you look like a serial killer. You should do a plastic surgery before trying to game girls

        1. Dude he is not banging the girls he claims to be. Trust me girls are the most shallow people on planet earth and I doubt the classy girls that he talks about in his posts are banging him. He is probably banging some leftovers and sugar moms in their 50-40s.
          All this time the big shot Mr. Troy Francis was a novelist. I think he should start writing romances instead of trying to sell us those lies he writes about himself and his over saturated ego.

      1. It’s clearly not looks gis problem but the fact that he talks like a fart
        Also his skin is shit but skull is ok I’d say
        It’s fun to see how rok has turned into puahate in 2 years

    3. Seeing what Troy Francis looks like in real life and the way he talks makes me wonder if he is just a Poseur with Sociopathic traits and delusions of grandeur.
      I dont know about your guys but I cant believe he banged all those girls he claims he did in his posts I bet they were all sugar moms in their 40s who once were hbs 9-10s but now are hbs 6-7. I feel contempt for him. He is probably Exaggerating his stunts in his writings in order to feed his ego. Its all a fantasy in his mind.
      I lost respect for the guy. I dont think I will be reading any articles he writes anymore. He looks like your typical 40 years old white male in the self denial phase. Having a middle age crisis. He is probably just a loser who is banging lots of old women and created in the internet this identity of some Alpha Male to protect his weak ego and his insecurities

      1. @Gordon I agree with you.
        Too many Smart Scammers in the internet now a days… making money off desperate guys, that cant find a girlfriend in the real world. Troy is probably just another Eurotrash who came to America to steal dimes from fat kids.
        Troy you European Scumbag Thug! You came to the right place! My country is full of stupid hillbies, who will make you rich.
        But dont worry about it. Trump will send you back to EuroCuckland, where you belong!

        1. Troy , you have no ground breaking results in your articles . Approach a million times and you might get laid once . That’s called a crapshoot . Should one take advice from someone who can’t prove results either ? Nobody said models necessarily know game , some are gay . That’s not the point but we Know if you threw in looks as a part of game then you’d lose the hopeless guys , the same who bought Tucker Max’s or David deangelos or Neil Strauss books . Con artists

        1. Hey Troy, I will be honest, since honesty is the most helpful advice to give. I always read your articles and thought (and still do) that you give solid advice and are a good writer. And your taste in girl is in line with mine, your pics you choose are A grade honey’s. So when you started getting some flack it pissed me off. Thing is… we can all admit you have average looks, and that’s fine, a lot of PUA’s have average looks, but the deal-breaker for me is you lack charisma. Your voice, posture, demeanor, they all lack an alpha vibe. This vibe is essential to have if you want to have guys take your advice more seriously, as bad advice is everywhere, a lot of pretenders saying shit on camera then going home and wanking to porn because they don’t have game. If you can’t sell yourself, you can’t expect to sell your product. That’s just how it goes.

        2. @asdasd
          make a video of you talking and let’s see how much fucking charisma you have you fuking bitch. I’m not here to defend anyone but I’m fuking tired of autistic beta virgin spergs who spend their lives surfing forums in the hopes of becoming normal human beings, trying to get girls and get conservatively brainwashed in the process since they lack the minimal critical thinking. It’s cool how you use words learned from the internet to criticize one of those who are part of that slang and philosophy you are following right now (being alpha, posture, voice etc.)
          Make a video with your ugly face and shit voice and shit posture and let’s comment on that.
          And lol at all the ohter fucking retards on here. I used to write on the importance of looks 3 years ago on rok and always got raped, and now it’s like there is no game anymore, just looks. You are all a bunch of retarded 18 year olds

        3. @ jmuell,
          Are you gay for Troy? Genuine question, as you seem to be awful angry at me for giving honest feedback to, “You’d rather take game advice from a guy with model looks? Serious question. Cheers, Troy.”
          I’m sure you don’t think it’s beta to suggest that looks aren’t everything as long as you have charisma? I mean, that’s the essence of game, to build your charisma to increase your sexual vibe. And I’m sure you don’t think it’s beta for someone with game to question someone without game who’s giving game advice?
          As for me putting my face out there on the internet, nah, I’m not dumb, look at the situation Roosh is in where women believe all these negative things about him and what he stands for, ruining his game potential. Fuck that. Likewise, Troy should have just stayed anonymous.

        4. @asdasd
          I don’t care about the guy but I feel for him. I know he might be struggling financially or whatever and in need of followers but I surely feel for him as in putting in so much work and being insulted by a bunch of pathetic losers who hide behind their screens and obviously never even smelled a pussy

        5. @ Jmell, and I agree, but sympathy won’t help here, solutions will. I think if Troy built up his charisma, which 100% can be learned, he would not be getting trolled right now, hence… “Troy, build up your charisma.”

    4. @TroyFrancis is an ((E.u.r.o.t.r.a.s.h)) with delusions of grandeur!
      The only thing he bangs is the feet of the women that c.u.c.k.s him. He has a c.u.c.k.o.l.d f.e.e.t.i.s.h! He loves being humiliated by his mistresses and bulls
      Here is Troy licking foot of one of his mistresses and licking cum from his b.u.l.l.s:
      https://tinyurl.com/yb56y6bf
      Its him!!! He has a blog where he talks about his adventures as a ((c.u.c.k.o.l.d))!!!

    5. The only thing more mundane than this article is the video of Troy babbling about the weather. Tell the truth Troy. That wasn’t water you spilled on your laptop.

    1. Do they actually fart on purpose in transit to act as feminists? I’ve heard that women in Toronto purposely fart dirty to repel any potential man from approaching her.

    1. Spend all your waking hours on approaching 100 women just to maybe get 5 numbers ? Sounds like a shifty ROI for your time

      1. In Canada, England and soon to be in France, you will get 5 big black cloks in prison after being charged with street harassment on 100 counts against women.

  2. Oh boy . Ground breaking research from another pua. Looks matter . Women have eyes too , remember that and don’t buy this chode’s books .

    1. Women eyes’ purpose is to know the way to man’s lips and dick. They don’t have any other application.

  3. HAMMERED SHIT
    Who can be bothered to spend $200 at a club when a blowjob is guaranteed for $100 from a prostitute.

    1. You can get good deals on Sugar baby sites as well from 18 year olds . Same result , less bullshit .

      1. Hmmm…now that sounds familiar…
        What about leaving Monopoly money in an envelope after getting them drunk on cheap booze. Now that would be a real scam! And helluva fun, too!

    2. Tinder and a $10 or $20 beer tab at seedy hole in the wall bar is the best investment of time and money to get laid in the west these days.
      Don’t fight it. Just get in shape, have an interesting lifestyle, and embrace it.

      1. That too and post wall sluts can be good lays . It’s all pink in the stink .

      2. Sorry, that fvcking J3w3ss Ruth Ginsberg might encourage these women to go on the #metoo campaign….I’d rather an escort who knows to shut the fvck up because her pimp will shut her up for good if she ever pulls a #metoo to damage the reputation of the trade.

  4. Put all that hard work in for a Western girl? I think not, good sir. Find another country to work in and meet higher caliber women, most of whom are serious about marriage and children. I’ve put the grunt work in when I lived in the U.S., and I discovered that the work just isn’t for this huckleberry.

    1. They’re are some great western girls worthy of a committed relationship with yours truly, but Jesus good luck finding them. In Asia I don’t have to limit myself quite so much.

  5. Good article. I like the point of using “canned” openers and learning (not necessary loving) the process. Something I always struggled with was wanting to try and show myself off as some brilliantly suave Casanova from the moment of saying hello. But walking up and getting to know strangers (women or otherwise) is not a suave process. It’s awkward by definition, so stick to the basics and what has empirical evidence of a high probability of success and when you learn how to better interact in those situations you can deviate from the script.

    1. You’re controlling the interaction aren’t you?
      Women with he conversation skills of a damp paper towel who’re unable to hold a conversation will attempt to force an awkward silence after the initial introduction to highlight the fact that she doesn’t know how to respond. She’s expecting you to follow her lead. Don’t. Instead spread out, relax and remain relaxed. In such cases, talking about yourself should be your favourite subject, tell her about your business- and if you don’t have one then tell her about what your business will be at the least. Some people opt to put their weight on their back foot- as if they’re about to leave at any moment, I prefer for my legs to remain planted. So she follows your lead and relaxes, maybe tells you about X bs degree that she’s studying. Now you can either attempt to drag her to a romantic coffee shop then and there, or arrange to meet when it’s more convenient for you.
      When you understand that you control the interaction, it becomes second nature for you. In Asia, I get girls who are nervous about kissing a foreigner on a deserted street, being seen by their peers- but I attempt to kiss them even when I know that they’re not ready for it cause I want em to know that I like em. Sometimes they jump back a metre, and I laugh at her and call her a nerd- but that I’m gonna kiss her again in like 5 minutes.
      I’m controlling the interaction and you sure can come off as a Casanova if you dominate her in such a way.

  6. @TroyFrancis is an ((E.u.r.o.t.r.a.s.h)) with delusions of grandeur!
    The only thing he bangs is the feet of the women that c.u.c.k.s him. He has a c.u.c.k.o.l.d f.e.e.t.i.s.h! He loves being humiliated by his mistresses and bulls
    Here is Troy licking foot of one of his mistresses and licking cum from his b.u.l.l.s:
    https://tinyurl.com/yb56y6bf
    Its him!!! He has a blog where he talks about his adventures as a ((c.u.c.k.o.l.d))!!!

      1. And terrible teeth. And that’s coming from a fellow Brit, which is really saying something! And man. The serviced apartment style room – it’s like a Roosh video. That’s not only a man who doesn’t have his life together, which at his stage he should, but it’s like he doesn’t know he doesn’t have his life together. Shitty apartment, towel/coat on the door, hotel/bedsit utensils – wtf.

        1. I dont think he is The Ladykiller that he claims to be in his articles. He is probably banging some hbs 6 or single moms in their 40s-50s.
          Look how messy his apartment is and his face. I´m not trying to be judgemental. But the way he write his articles made me assume that he was some 6´0 feet tall muscular Chad that looks like Tom Cruise. I guess I was wrong lol
          He should stick to writing Novels instead of trying to sell us his Pipedreams.

        2. Thanks for the support fellow Brit 😉 Regarding the apartment, it’s my rental property in Berlin and I haven’t had time to fix it up yet. But anyway, I disagree with you. There is no ‘stage’ in a man’s life at which he shouldn’t be prepared to pivot in order to follow a different path. If that means taking on more modest accomodation for a time then so be it. Materialism is essentially anti-masculine.
          Cheers, Troy

        1. I think these message boards have filled up with either MGTOWS or Black Pills as you’re getting a lot of hate. I have no idea if you present yourself honestly or not, but as they say, don’t worry about the haters. A few months ago there was an article about how great Joe Rogan is, and then the comments section was just like this, only the complaints were the opposite. I’m not sure how many of the complainers where the same people, but it would be funny. Whereas they’re sitting here calling you ugly, and not having your life together and not believing you could be banging hotties, on the Rogan article the complaints were also that he is a phony, but they were different. He tried to hard, he cared too much about looks, and appearing masculine, and he walked the line too well between red pill, masculinity, support of feminism and liberalism. When you really look at it, it looks like it might be jealousy.

  7. Work…work…..really………work as in put forth effort. Fuck that shit. All the dumb shit women go head over heels for, and we are talking about work.

  8. Fuck. When did ROK become such a Troll Hole? All you trolls should go find something more fulfilling. What a bunch of keyboard warri-whores. As for you few good men, may your prospects multiply, and your approaches foster numbers sans flakiness!

      1. Yeah. In an age of such wide-spread free-information, how big of an asshole do you have to be a waste of bandwidth? We’ve got kilobytes flying out of our ears, and these goombas insist on shooting their mouths off at men who literally (Hitler) don’t care what they have to say. It would be great if they would pick a better hill to die on… for them and us.

  9. Mundanity to stabilize our primal stirrings, yeah. Well, RoK just published a most-cogent article about how PUA was dead, and that was an accurate portrayal for 2018. Troy appears ready to fight that notion like Don Quixote (tinkering perhaps with some obsolete armor), and risk looking like a fool on YouTube, and it takes some guts to throw your ideas and your “video face, warts and all” into the controversy of the manosphere. As for article selection, we’re seeing some mixed emotions going down at the RoK editing desk! I guess we’re all just perpetual works in progress. There were some cruel but on-point comments in the thread here, and a few were hilarious. If Troy is a real man, he’s laughing too; take heed, gentlemen.

    I’m not exactly on the same wavelength as this author’s advice but would agree with Troy that even when things are running good & hot, it’s work work work all in the background. One of the coolest deceptions a popular self-made man can master is hiding the tedium from others and making it look easy; women love that invisible substance…shit doesn’t elevate on its own.

    1. The article you mention talks about the death of the PUA ‘industry’, and the writer has a point. But the principles of attraction are hardwired and remain constant. Cheers for the comment. Troy

  10. Good article. The nuts and bolts of pickup can become the fun part. A scary approach for me has turned into being invited to birthday parties, bar crawls, wedding receptions, and obviously someones bedroom. All of which are a lot more fun than facebook and netflix.
    Its nice walking into work a bit hungover knowing I had a strange adventure with some new people, while my coworkers all sat on their asses watching tv and jerking it, or getting dissed by their wives.

    1. I’d rather lift weights and work on my house than go to wedding parties of people that don’t know me. Witnessing a marriage that will most likely end in divorce .. ugh

  11. Troy, how’s sales going lately? because you know money is the best women friend! and i know you need lot of cash to keep on going with your pua show outta there, how much for a book Troy?? uh?
    now sit there and listen my FREE advice, you have taken the first step in researching female nature. but you are blind to see the rest. reason? the truth hurts. what truth? that all women are hoes. some sell it for 5 dollars. others for a wedding ring. but like all hoes. her pussy is just on lease. she’s not your woman. it’s just your turn. you are a addict. you have a pussy addiction. you think you’re in control but you’re not. she’s the dealer and you are the junkie. and should the time ever come that you cant pay for it, or someone else comes and outbids you. she will take her bisness somewhere else. after she squeezed you dry in the courts. lesson? never get in debt with your dealer. if you like pussy so much, fine go get some. but remember, pussy is worse then heroin. it takes only one bad pussy to ruin your life. and all dealers claim their shit is the bomb. just because you bought at this dealer before doesn’t mean this shot will be as good as the last.
    Simply put, men today must avoid any book sellers like you, avoid any kind of commitment with “today’s women” rent is the best choice, and if you really want a family, expat in the few male friendly nations!

    1. “Simply put, men today must avoid any book sellers like you, avoid any kind of commitment with “today’s women” rent is the best choice, and if you really want a family, expat in the few male friendly nations!”
      Actually I agree with most of this! Well said bro.

  12. I love how dbags claim women don’t care about looks and money but push sponsored posts about making money and bigger muscles

    1. @Troy Francis wuz kangz n shiet
      Selling some rip offs n shieet
      Wash yo ass white boyo

    1. Homoboyo. Where is the video of you being c.u.c.k.e.d and licking your Mistresses feet?
      Fake ass White nigga OG

  13. Agree to asdasda, “your taste in girl is in line with mine, your pics you choose are A grade honey’s. ”
    That’s a big + for Troy.
    And I don’t know what all the fuss and hate against Troy is all about.
    Seriously, he looks ok compared to the many ones, who totally lost the genetic lottery 😛
    The only thing I would criticize him, that his country becomes a caliphate, while he posts game advice/how to pick up women articles.
    And I shouldn’t go out on a limb as Germany is on the cuck scale on a good way to GB – so sorry Troy, don’t know if your situation is that much better now
    Probably you should do the Rich la Ruina thing and move to Russia xD
    In his videos Troy comes off ok as well. Roosh is also a bit on the slow and thoughtful side. I don’t know if all the guys should all be on LSD to be more energetic in their videos.
    And some of the comments here made it to one of Troy’s posts XD
    https://realtroyfrancis.com/2018/03/17/like-ugly-kid/
    So everyone stop being so negative and provide constructive feedback.
    Cheers !

  14. I call it the kid in the candy store effect. A kid goes to a candy store to buy candy, everyday after becomes a ritual. One day that kid grows up then realizes he doesn’t like candy anymore.
    Long story short we live in the idealistic world, where believing something from nothing is concievable. Then suredly hit a wedge down the road, when realizing the long term affects of our endevours are not so ever lasting. Just like people goals errode.

  15. I’m looking forward to Troy’s next story “Gaming Muslim women in Berlin”.
    I could be the start of a series about banging Muslim women in countries all over the world.

  16. Pretty sure its this baseline tedium and mundanity of life which allow you to experience the fleeting moments of excitement and satisfaction when you reach a goal etc.
    Great read. Sometimes you read a piece at exactly the right time that it resonates with you a lot. This post does that.

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