19 Types Of Younger Women Who Love Older Men

The appeal of older men to younger women beyond the strictly “gold digger” transactional urban legend is fully embodied in one phrase: “The Most Interesting Man in the World.”  Dos Equis and ad agency Havas Worldwide created one of the most successful campaigns in modern history based on the premises outlined in my first article:

The evolutionary explanation for this is straightforward enough: throughout history, most men did not live past 35.  Those who lived longer maintaining vitality, strength, leadership and success had to be genetically exceptional and fertile women cue to this. I will now outline the most common types of American women who prefer older men and the pros and cons of each.

1. High IQ/Creatives

Where genius IQs are concerned, men outnumber women by as much as 7:1. As men typically take longer to mature, these women will almost always go for older, successful men as they find the company of frat boys to be insufferable.  Should you find a young woman like this who is attractive and agreeable, you should snap her up quick regardless of geography or obstacles.

Pros: Highest caliber company and potential marriage material.  They are able to appreciate your finer qualities, since they also possess said qualities themselves.

Cons: Difficult to argue with, difficult to game so skip the PUA and be genuine.

Where: Academics, artistry, okcupid, sugar daddy sites.

2. Accountants

The best “lady in public/whore in bed” closet sex freak you will ever meet.

Pros: Potential marriage material

Cons: Her long work hours can limit your fun time.

Where: Corporate bars, networking events, okcupid , match, eharmony.

3. Cosplay Models

Many have what I call “Prince syndrome“—extravagantly sexual on “stage,” but quite shy and socially awkward elsewhere.  The best of them can make excellent girlfriends, as they tend to pair bond well and their shyness limits promiscuity.

Pros: Hot, sexy, kinky or at the very least trainable.

Cons: Eccentric.  Unless you’re a true alpha male, penetrating the bitch shield often involves cosplaying with her and hanging out with her nerdy beta friends, the most intolerable form of clown game.

Where: Cosplay conventions, online dating, video gamer bars.

4. Gamer Girls

Video gamers share many of the traits of cosplayers and there is great overlap.  They can be quite smart and very agreeable.

Pros: Same as cosplayers.

Cons: Shyness can limit social interactions.

Where: Video gaming events, twitch.

5. Strippers

As mentioned in my stripper article, it goes without saying that these wild women are mainly looking for any man who can deal with their job and lifestyle, age being far down the list of priorities.  If you can score one who works in an upscale club who is a newbie college student, these can make for great short term flings.

Pros: Hot, kinky, exhibitionist, makes her own money, flexible schedule for fun and travel.

Cons: In lowbrow clubs, she’s probably a skank ho.  For upscale, it’s only a matter of time before someone richer or slicker intrigues her, so eject out of this sexual jet fighter before it crashes in 9 1/2 weeks. Feminists have infiltrated this once fine profession so caveat emptor.

Where: Strip clubs, hip hop and EDM clubs, sugar daddy sites.

6. Porn Stars

They do older men on camera for a living so they’ll have no problem doing you.

Pros: Total sex professional, STD tested.

Cons: Other than a pump n dump, they are generally only suitable for swingers, drug dealers or cucks.  Most are notorious gold diggers with an “us vs. them” gypsy/grifter mentality. Life expectancy: 9 1/2 hours.

Where: San Fernando Valley, CA, Miami, Vegas, Craigslist.

7. Cam Girls 

She aims to please and loves older men. One of my favorite types as newbies can be very loyal and pair bond quite well.  Life expectancy: 9 1/2 months

Pros: All of the benefits with few if any of the problems that come with other jobs in the adult biz.

Cons: Too many orgasms when “logged on” can physically desensitize her so bang her on “off” days.

Where: Online dating.

8. Fitness Models

Her top priority is how fit you are and whether you look good with her in photo ops.  All other traits secondary or irrelevant, including age.

Pros: You’ll be the envy of all your friends, even if the sex is boring, which it often is.

Cons: You’ll pump iron and count calories all day to keep her, so make sure you enjoy it.

Where: Gyms, nightclubs, fitness and bikini competitions.

9. Club sluts

The name of the game here is drugs, alcohol, your circle of friends, and an unusually high tolerance for her never-ending narcissism.  If you continually appeal to her vanity with regular doses of “narcissistic supply,” your age is irrelevant.

Pros: Physically attractive, cocaine, and molly instantly converts her into a sexual acrobat.

Cons: Wrap your man schlong with triple jimmy hats, as a steady diet of drugs, and semi-unconscious sex all but ensures she is packing STDs.

Where: EDM and Hip Hop clubs.

10. Tattoo Models

The traits most associated with excessive tattoos are lack of self control and Axis 2 personality disorders.  As her life is generally a cascading waterfall of impulsively bad choices, banging someone old enough to be her daddy is the least of her problems.

Pros: Easy to game, DTF, freaky. Pretend to love her freakish tatts and you’re in like Flynn.

Cons: Almost all her friends are degenerates.  Any antisocial personality who randomly inks herself has a lowbrow self destructive streak that eventually spills over into your life. Regular hiding of change jars and silverware is recommended.

Where: Tattoo parlors and wherever fine skanks are sold.

11. Sugar Babies

The best sex you will ever have.  They love older men and love to please when you “unlock” them with a provider frame.  A great alternative to dating hot bar trash.

Pros: If you know what you’re doing and short circuit this pay to play nonsense, you will enjoy the spoils of victory.

Cons: A harder script to flip than it used to be and you will get obliterated if you don’t know how to screen bad apples and leverage world class, bullet proof game.  Seekingarrangement*com founder Brandon Wade has a twisted view of dating and secretly bought many of the other sites forcing you to use SA—the weirdest and most brazenly transactional of all.  For pro men only.

Where: Nightclubs, EDM festivals, sugar daddy sites.

12. Littles

The “Daddy Dom/Little Girl” (DD/LG) relationship is gaining popularity.  Many of these women are adorable, amazing submissives who relish the role.

Pros: Great, agreeable company, amazing sex.

Cons: You’ll have to deal with a six year old mind in a 22 year old sexpot’s body some of the time so make sure you have the temperament for this.

Where: Online dating.

13. Fetish Models/BDSM Power Exchange 

Simply put, very few younger men know how to do this properly including those in this scene.  So fetish subs almost always quietly seek out older men.

Pros: Hot, young, kinky.

Cons: Degenerate friends and culture, problems with intimacy.

Where: Fetish conventions, fetlife , sex clubs and swingers clubs.

14. 420 friendlies

There’s something about weed and women who prefer older men that just seems to go together.  Don’t try to analyze it, just have a blast.

Pros: DTF, super chill.

Cons: Slacker personality.

Where: Fire it up and they will come..

15. Rocker Chicks

Her top priority is common musical interests and to some degree, how well you play.

Pros: Low maintenance, easy to please.  One of the few types who actually care about your art.

Cons: If alcoholism, smoking or tattoos, a poor choice for LTR.

Where: Rock clubs, concerts, festivals.

16. Adrenaline Junkies

If you can keep up with her death defying adventures and bring it in the bedroom, age rarely matters.

Pros: Fit and freaky

Cons: Her life endangering addiction always comes first and though much younger, she’ll be dead or crippled before you are.

Where: Big wave beaches, ski slopes, rock climbs, skydives, skateboard events.

 17. SJWs 

According to Freudian reaction formation, many are infatuated with the alpha male forbidden fruit.  Robert Greene and 50 cent wrote a book and discussed turning disadvantages into strengths.  To wit, her obsession with Marxist “loser” philosophy means that she is the easiest of all women to influence.  Indoctrination and self created low socioeconomic status further predisposes her to slutiness.  Often, they are peeking through the “alpha male” door on SD sites, while naively seeking to destroy the “white patriarchy.”

Pros: DTF, will do almost any sex act for spot cash that she delusionally believes to be “wealth transfer” to further the feminist cause.  Enjoy the goods, then conveniently forget to pay her.

Cons: Requires formidable acting skills and the patience of Job in the Bible to pander to her unbearable ideology, warped perceptions, and argumentative badgering.  A simple disagreement about the best brand of coffee will get you accused of “gas lighting” so the less talk the better. Any money saved gaming on the cheap will be spent on the memory cards you must buy to record everything as a preventative false accusation defense.

Where: Marxist training camps (i.e. colleges), hipster districts, faux protests, sugar daddy sites.

18. Single Moms 

They are nicer because they have to be.  The best ones tend to be early 20s who wisely dumped their loser deadbeat “Romeo” quick and early.  If a good woman and a good mother, it’s worth the cost of a babysitter to enjoy hot, steamy sex.

Pros: Agreeable, hot, kinky.

Cons: Her child always comes first and if you stay, you’ll never be “Dad.”

Where: Online dating, eharmony, facebook.

19. Women in other countries 

Much has been written at ROK on this topic so it is included only for completeness.

Pros: Nicer, cheaper, less self entitled, age irrelevant.

Cons: Hypergamy and hustles still abound.  Mastering the language, cultural barriers and cost of travel negates any savings.

Where: Thailand, Japan, Phillippines, Costa Rica, Columbia, Brazil, Ukraine, Ireland, Dominican Republic, country specific cupid sites, SD sites, Tinder.

Conclusion

Often there is great overlap between these archetypes.  The appeal (or revulsion) of each will depend on where you are in life and the type of relationship you are seeking.  The commonality among all nineteen is some sort of natural rebellious tendency and a general problem with authority.  No one is going to tell her what to do (at least not until you put the handcuffs on her!) and that includes dating older men with an age gap that American society publicly shuns, except for the rich and celebrities who get a “pass.”  This shows that it isn’t really age at all but very often societal envy of your superior genetics that is actually at work.

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132 thoughts on “19 Types Of Younger Women Who Love Older Men”

  1. Never….I repeat NEVER conform to what women wants from you !!! thats what so many betas fall in.
    I invite you guys to listen to this podcast …. she is a 10 ! and had a lot of experiences with men. she wrote a book about how to make men score beautiful women yet Patrice O’Neal destroyed her and made her wet in the end. lol

    1. This is just perfect mate !
      I was LMAO …..this is the reality that no one can change it. its their nature ( women ) to be dominated.

        1. Patrice’s girlfriend (who he eventually married right before he died) lived with him, and he also paid for her daughter (who she had with another guy) to live with him as well.
          Stop trying to make him this redpill Jesus. He was beta.

        2. He’s also dead because he couldn’t stop eating candy and wouldn’t exercise. Very Alpha…

      1. Many thanks mate.
        I will read it right away.
        imagine if he was still alive….he would make the SJW fainting …

    2. She’s a 22 and a half on a good day, an ugly beautiful woman. Also, I’ve listened to that O&A show at least 3 times. Fucking hilarious!

        1. @THIRDWORLDMAN
          Wishful thinking, he crushed her spirit so she’s wet? do understand anything at all when it comes to fucking a slut? i realize you just here to troll it out but ‘crushing her spirit’ doesn’t make her wet, sorry to disappoint you of your bdsm fantasy, and she’s not a 10, not at all, 7.5 at best

        2. abt? OH you mean ‘about’ – you forget how to spell? what logic did he destroy? girls don’t center conversations around logic, and yelling a bitch down doesnt make her wet either, go try it out sometime and let me know how it goes for you, I’m sure her panties gunna come right off

    3. While I agree with Patrice all I would say here is that he sort of lost his cool with it. The sluts point of view is clearly difficult to understand cuse she’s shitty at articulating a 3rd grade level of comprehension, all she’s trying to say (I suspect) is simply what she thinks turns girls on; i.e. what ‘seduction’ seems like to ‘her’. Patrice is a bit too caught up on the whole ‘game’ itself while the sluts point of view is simply, “I like guys doing [enter relationship cliché].” Patrice basically failed to grasp that less is more with girls. Just dumb EVERYTHING down it’ll be fine. It’s like he’s trying to understand a 10 year old. If you want real ‘red-pill’ logic it would be that girls typically get trapped in the mindset when they lost their virginity. In other words, if the girl lost her virginity at 14 she’ll be stuck in her 14 year old mindset. He’s trying to argue with a child, it’s not real ‘red-pill’, because any ‘red-pill’ guy knows logic doesn’t work on girls. Girls do everything to avoid the ‘slut’ label until they’ve become so far gone like this slut to where they no longer have any other identity other than sexdoll. Patrice sounds like a lunatic trying to explain ‘red-pill’ logic to this idiot girl. She doesn’t even get what he’s saying, which isn’t surprising. What the slut (I think-who the hell knows) is trying to say I guess is simply ‘her’ point of view of ‘seduction’. But she didn’t say much until the dude lost it. You can’t use logic on a girl Patrice. ‘Seduction’ is illogical.

    4. God, that thot does have the most annoying voice… Her total lack of intellect doesn’t make her hotter either. Patrice read her entire messed up psychological setup like an open book. Her ONLY value is her pussy and she tries to cash in on it before she hits the wall.

    5. After 26:17 in the podcast… “how does one get anal?” she answers “subtle psychological techniques”. This proves what a fraud she is. She wants free shit for no effort. I have NEVER had to use ANY psychological techniques to get anal. Women love it if you turn them on hot enough. If you wanna get some anal, you have nothing more complicated to do than gradually transition with your foreplay from her WET pussy to her asshole. Simple and easy. I have never even needed lube for that. Just used their plenty of pussy juice flowing down their asshole. NO SPEECH REQUIRED. This whore just tries to get men put even her shithole on a pedestal. Fucking entitled slut.

    1. Age, wisdom, and experience eventually enlighten a man that the ideal girl doesn’t exist and if you wait around for her, you can unintentionally become MGTOW by default. If you stand behind the cobra and grab hold of the hood, you probably won’t get bit and you can have lots of fun. ALL women are crazy, so I choose to date the hot ones.

    2. no ‘ideal girl’??? are you fuckin high? this whole site is totally empty of any decency in the fuckin slightest, or common sense for that matter, you MAKE the ‘ideal girl’ you fuckin twat, girls are malleable, they all fucked up because society and dudes like YOU are fuckups, you never find a decent girl cuse YOU are a piece of shit who doesn’t know what decency even means, ‘can’t find the ideal girl’, shut da fuck up, fuckin idiot pieces of shit, yeah most girls are fucked up, because most guys are, if you had half a brain you would know that the guy MAKES the girl; i.e. she likes guys how her dad acts, if you raised a piece of shit girl its cuse your a piece of shit, and I see a ton of piece of shit girls out there, so lets do some math and put two and two together, dumbass motherfuckers, every fuckin dude on here cryin a fuckin river, get your shit together, yeah we all want fuckin pussy and the feminists aint makin it easy, no fuck, but how about not reinforcing the whole sick sad pathetic shitshow for a change. Wait for it, I hear the cries of a thousand ‘beta bux alpha fux’ losers who are gunna bitch and moan that there’s PLENTY of ‘good’ white knight guys out there and yet every girl is a ‘slut’ right? Huh, wonder why? Lets do some more math, girls don’t like faggot guys, but if you don’t want whores you can’t think your gunna game the fuck out of ‘every’ girl either, when YOU fuck a bitch you are making a slut I’m gunna have to fuckin deal with later unless you plan on marrying that slut I suggest you practice a bit of selfcontrol instead of being just another sick sad fuck like the rest of um. Bitches only sluts cuse every guy is a weak ass piece of shit with no morality. Girls copy their man. Men GIVE those fuckin dumbass little girls morality, we give them rules, we fuckin tell them what to do you dumbass motherfuckers. Why you think so many sluts? Cuse no motherfuckin guys with any clue as to morality or rules. All I see are white knight beta faggots and the reverse being chump ass loser fucks. One doesn’t know how to talk to women in general, the other is such a piece of shit he doesn’t have a clue what the word ‘morality’ even means. You have sluts cuse the men have no morality, dumbmothers need it spelled out for um. All these faggot ‘atheist / agnostic’ fucks and ‘science’ queers thinkin their ‘logic’ explains away morality when all I see is a piece of shit society with piece of shit girls cuse the men are too much of a piece of shit to understand that marrying a bitch controls her ass and EVERY other girls ass. Think about it, if every guy is marrying their bitch you dry up the amount of sluts and it levels the playing field. Oh but NO, all the sciency atheist agnostic faggots gunna come out of the woodwork and bitch and complain bout religion. Shut da fuck up. The only thing keeping that bitch from not whoring out is cuse EVERY is getting married. When marriage collapses so does society. No one gives a fuck what the girl thinks. We as fuckin men tell her what to fuckin do. If you have no fuckin morality, why the fuck should she? Dumbass motherfuckers.

      1. Hi. Areyou trying to impress somebody with your ranting? It’s a comment section. You come across as angry and ignorant. Grown men learn control- or they are not considered “grown”. Trying to read your comment to see if there is anything I can learn from it, but with all your fucking complaining and yelling, O can’t tell if it was written by a teenager or a different teenager. I’d still like to know your real intelligent thoughts but…remove the indignant ranting, will you?
        Other than that, thanks for taking the time to write.

        1. @ Samuel – “Are you trying to impress somebody with your ranting?” – Clearly I don’t need to if your replying aimiright?” It’s a comment section. You come across as angry and ignorant. Grown men learn control.” Control? What control? Its just words. Clearly its enough to get YOUR attention. Besides, ‘control’ on here would be an attempt at logic and persuasion which 99% of readers here care not of. If they did I’d be reading more intellectual arguments. Who gives a fuck if I rant? You? Who the fuck are you man? Might as well group you in with all the other sick sad fucks on here. Oh SHIT I come off like a teenager, boo fuckin who bitch. Could give a fuck. “Thanks for taking the time to write.” – Dude shut the fuck up and go back to wacking off to your videogames and porn.

      2. @HUUjj Agree with what you’ve said. Men don’t bitch, and point fingers blaming this and that. That’s what women and children do. Men lead, guide, protect, and fix things. You (man) shape the woman, not the other way around.

      3. TL;DR stupid ranting
        Just read “The Rational Male” books for fast, low noise, thorough Red Pill, including female instincts, like hypergamy, different ‘love’, solipsism, feminine manipulation, and easy emotion disconnect, and the menstrual cycle behavioural phases, which you have to accept and figure out how to work this knowledge to your advantage, including Game, and faster masculine manipulation methods; the later from other sources.

    3. @Sgt.
      Yeah, but the news media is bending over to not call it what it is: Crazy lesbo couple abuses their mixed race kids and when CPS comes calling they take the cliff dive way out. Question is: How do these muff divers get ahold of 6 kids when the alpha slit slicker was already charged with child abuse?

      1. okcupid has very sophisticated search metrics and these become more important with increasing IQ as it becomes harder to find quality matches.

    1. If this were true, the Dos Equis campaign would have flopped. The bar is certainly higher in terms of having leisure cash, athleticism and a resume of accomplishments. But if you know what you’re doing, you will score way hotter young women in your 40s and 50s than in your 20s, as any upscale nightclub, steakhouse or fitness competition will demonstrate.

    2. I’m 67 and I’m getting more pussy than at any time in my life – and I’ve always had something going on. Two or three of the harem every weekend albeit I have four nights per weekend.
      Of course I’m not in the US. But I’m knocking Korean, Filippina. Thai, and Chinese. Ages range from 37 down to 23.
      Got a 26 y/o Chinese girl spending the weekend. Made a great lunch. Almost nap time!
      Indeed, staying healthy and horny as I grow older has become the Golden Age of my life.

      1. Thank you sir! So happy to hear that. So much of it is freeing one’s mind from America’s relentless cultural indoctrination, not giving a flying fuck what anyone thinks and realizing what’s actually possible. If you can do it, everyone on his thread can. I hoping I’m half as successful as you are when I’m 67. Major props to you!

  2. You guys wont marry? You live as you até going to live forever. Forget anything about “game” andamento Go after the money.

  3. 20. Daughters
    From 14 to 17 father is the last guy for hanging out with. After that age the only reliable male fall back position if things go really wrong with a RoK guy..

    1. I still dunno how liberals actually oppose incest. The idea of poorer quality offspring is largely overstated and from a fundamental perspective they support fruitless unions such as gay unions and these unions can easily be made as fruitless ones. We argue for good evolutionary strategies and with the natural order being one.
      I guess much of their morality is really demand based and were there more demand for these changes and they could write some victim sob story narrative then they would flip. They would move from “its offensive to compare homosexuality to incest” to “they consent” . Surely anti-incest laws shouldn’t be around in current year they are the wrong side of history kek? I thin they know that there is only so far you can push the envelope per year. Disarming and silencing us and is their main priority at the moment.

      1. Three biggest enemies the democrats want to eliminate?
        1) First Amendment
        2) Second Amendment
        3) White men
        You can only get rid of white men and white women at the same time tho… why women still voting left?

  4. Good luck trying to have a conversation with types 1-18 without your head exploding.

    1. I’m with ya Maverick. But the way I see it, it’s just like dressing for the corporate world. I don’t know too many people who actually enjoy a “BDSM” double windsor around their neck walking around in uncomfortable shoes and a monkey suit sweating in summer. But plenty of guys do it to get the job they want. It’s the same with women in my view, they don’t think like men so you have to wear a certain “uniform” to get them to do what you want. It’s the way life is, so I just got on with it and stopped complaining and overall I’m way happier with my dating life because of it.

  5. No. 1: “Potential marriage material” Where to find: “Sugar daddy sites”
    Anybody that marries from a sugar daddy site is a fucking idiot.

    1. If you do, you deserve to get taken to the cleaners with an inevitable divorce.

      1. True. Sometimes I have no pitty for the man that gets divorce raped. Often they are so stupid it’s only a matter of time before someone rips them off.

    2. The most savvy men on the planet know how to find the needle in a haystack… in places no one else is looking…

      1. It just shows how shit the quality of women is when you compare finding a good women to a search of needle in a haystack. But the problem is not women. The problem is the inbalance of authority and responsibility in any type of relation between the sexes. If you’re a man, you have all the responsibility but no legal or social authority. If you’re a woman, you have total legal and social authority but no responsibility. Obviously this can only back fire.

        1. I completely agree but as 50 Cent once said about illegal music file sharing, the genie is out of the bottle, this the new reality, and it’s not going back to what it was. So we have to adapt and find another way!

    3. Perhaps the most important girl around has been omitted from this list: the trad-thot/fash girl.
      I honestly trust feminists more than ‘muh Alt-Right trad-con,’ who takes a circuitous route of cock-carousel riding before she fortuitously discovers morality, monogamy, motherhood and homemaking after the impact of hitting the wall sets in, as opposed to the feminist bra-burner, who is just posturing for the alpha to impregnate her with champion offspring and meaningful beliefs.
      The trad-THOT is actively playing a character, usually rehearsed in a short video, replete with behind-the-line stagehands, makeup artists, male directors and male crowd-funding. She dons the hausfrau costume and reads a hastily-assembled script lazily plagiarized with a quick read-through of manosphere talking points, whimsically fiddling the hearts of inexperienced men with such ease she even convinces herself that she has talent.
      Basically, the ‘trad-con’ is a weaponized NAWALT counter-signaling ‘feminism’ without actually lobbying to end it, preying on the burgeoning market of beta-orbiting incels, white-knight fantasists and Simp utopians, with the simple scam of tossing chivalrous breadcrumbs and beta chow into the ghettos of cyberspace, where unloved, unskilled and thirsty men jockey with each other to nibble even the tiniest share of female attention. She successfully reels in their loyalty with the emptiest of promises and the most disingenuous effort.
      Keeping all this in mind, the trad-THOT is the easiest lay because she is the phoniest, most unstable bitch around, surrendering to the first guy who stops lapping her rental dress and treats her like the whore she is.

      1. Yawwn, ‘trad-thot’ is easiest lay? Right right, sure thing buddy. We know the standards YOU have so we know you can only get the illusionary ‘good’ girls, good for you man, keep telling yourself they are actually ‘trad-thot’. Definitly not many actual good girls out there cuse few actual good men (your not one of them, don’t worry about it) so you can rest easy knowing that the ‘trad-thot’ was NEVER ‘trad’ to begin with. Bitch wears a mask dumbmotherfucker. Girl can swap a cowboy hat (‘trad’) for a biker jacket (‘rebel’) easy as pie. Point is she was NEVER ‘trad’ to begin with. Wow, the ‘men’ on this site man, whole nuther breed of idiot. Bitch wears a mask for the man she wants, duh. Did you never interact with girls growing up or always just play with your dick? Never dawn on you in school when girls had cliques what that meant? Bitch wants to be cheerleader to get the jock, girl likes art cuse the ‘cute’ guy is a musician. Shit, where the fuck have men gone to. No social awareness in the slightest. Bitch was never ‘traditional’ to begin with. Fuckin shit goes without even saying. Where the fuck has mens common sense gone to? What the fuck? If she ‘acts’ like a ‘goodgirl’ but fucks guys on the weekend than guess what Einstein shes NOT a fuckin goodgirl. Call a spade a spade, for fucks sake. Bunch of fuckin faggot over analysis bullshit on here.

      2. Weimar, this is very insightful and sophisticated writing. You should submit an article to ROK!

    4. Anybody that marries is a fucking idiot, until marriage for women has no obligations but total authority, and for men no authority and massive obligations.
      Responsibility and authority has to be equal for a contract to work. The party with more responsibility HAS TO have more authority, and the party with less responsibility HAS TO have less authority, otherwise the party with less authority can and will abuse their authority – see the divorce stats: 70% of divorce is filed by women.

      1. Just noticed a mistake:
        “otherwise the party with less authority can and will abuse their authority”
        was meant to be
        “otherwise the party with less responsibility can and will abuse their authority”

        1. The hell are you trying to say, spit it out man – ‘marriage’ has such a high divorce rate for numerous reasons, the main ones being lack of morality – on both parties part, (the blame mostly falls on the men for not keeping her in line to begin with), economic factors, and I would say technology is a huge factor which gets overlooked (social media whores, porn, etc.).
          The dude is suppose to be the one who guides the religious inclinations of the ‘marriage’ – you have no marriage if you have no religious afflliation. So that right there shows a main reason why divorce rate is so high. Lack of morality on men’s behalf; i.e. if the dude doesn’t go to church why the fuck would she? ‘Marriage’ defined by the state doesn’t hold a girl toa cultural standard of obediance. I know alot of betas will cry over this because they claim marriage can’t keep her faithful in a relationship, but the fact of the matter is it’s the man who pressures her into going to church every week who keeps her faithful. If this weren’t true the concept of marriage would’ve failed a long time ago.
          Very, very very few girls willingly go to church all by themselves, its few and far between, and same is true with men. Alot of guys like to make the argument marriage is unnessaecarry and yet these are the same guys sitting on here complainging why girls are such ‘whores’ and ‘sluts’. Girls and guys both whore out if there’s nothing keeping them tied down, its not like its rocket science. If no relationship people will whore out because people want sex. Once you throw in all the other craziness (porn, women in the workforce, etc.) that’s when you start to have real issues. But in reality marriage is a stable structure which brings about the best for everyone. The people who don’t like marriage are the non-religious freaks with no sense of morality or ethics. Show me ‘successful’ ‘marriages’ outside of a religious institution, they rarely exist, no different than a ‘relationship’ called ‘dating’. People who don’t marry in a religious institution might as well not even bother getting married in the first place. It’s the exact same thing as gays. They ‘marry’ under the states laws, but what kind of ‘marriage’ is that REALLY? All THAT is is two people signing a piece of papaer, it means nothing. It’s a pseduo-marriage with people simply saying they like eachother. It means nothing else.
          The paradox in all of this which goes unquestioned and unmentioned is that guys want hot girls – but they believe only fucking her and being a dick (i.e. have no morality / morals) gets her. Many men will agree to this general asumption; which is I need to have sex with her and tell her what to do and more or less dominate her and display quote unquote ‘dark triad traits’. The paradox or sick irony here that alot of men lose and purposfully neglect any religious inclinations like the plague thinking religion and morality = virginity and they believe this ‘virginity’ or imposed celibacy if you will, can not get a girl. In fact many men believe that morality and celibacy and relationships are the exact opposite. They forgo morality in order to fullfill all sexual satisfication and pleasures. What ends up happening is you have a series of unfortunate events; in other words you have a slippery slope.
          The series events looks something like: Man forgoes morality to get pussy, then man wants to ‘lock her down’ and marry her, but girl realizes his hypocrisy for wanting marriage after fucking her when she had a ‘boyfriend’ and so marriage never enters the equation, if they do get married its under false pretenses and most likely not under a religious affiliation. The divorce is inevitable. You can’t ‘back track’ with morality thiking you want to find a way to ‘keep her at home’ and ‘wife her up’ if you had sex with her without first establishing the reaosn for it. The unfortunate paradox men fall into is believing they need to forget morality in order to first sexually dominate her and emotionally control her in some way. Instead of realizing that the end goal isn’t her sexual submission but her willing submission. I would MUCH rather have a girl willingly, consciously, and activly pursuing ME and ‘submitting’ to me in words than in actions. Now, that goes against pretty much all common sense in some ways. Because if you know your left hand from your right you know that girls actions are EVERYTHING in a relationship. I almost always say to never follow what she says and just watch what she does. But in this specific situation if a girl was literally wanting to marrying me and loved me and showered me with attentio (which isn’t entirely impossible, I’ve only had it ever happen once though) as in she’s 99% certain she wants you and only you – I know sounds like a fantasy – but if this does happen, her willing acceptance is more valuable than her physcial acquiescence. In other words, many girls will put out under the right conditions, but few will fully and completly want you the way many thirsty men desire, put on a pedestal, and succomb to oneitis.
          The whole point to all of this is it’s more favorable to get a girl to ‘love you’ than to simply get sex hoping that the emotional connection from sex will be enough to hold a ‘relationship’. By all means if you don’t ‘believe’ in marriage than you don’t ‘believe’ in it. But it’s foolish to think you can have your cake and eat it too. That you can have sex with girls without prior condtions and then also get her into marriage. The counter argument is that putting conditions on girls doesn’t get them in bed or even secure a relationship. So why would you bother with her then? Just to get laid right? And so the slippery slope continues…

        2. @VomOpl
          TL;DR religious verbal BS
          Organised religions are cults created by rulers to control the plebs:
          e.g. The Christian bible was fabricated from selected books on the orders of Roman Emperor Constantine to create a single state religion for Rome.
          e.g. Islam was started by the Jews to control the Arabs, with illiterate puppet Muhammed as the front man.

        3. Oh great, another know it all. If its ‘tl/dr’ (also known as fag speak / also known as ‘too long didnt read’ because he has the patience of a child) how can you make a rational disagreement if you didn’t read it? I read what he said and sounded like it makes sense to me. I don’t see it as just ‘verbal bs’. You’re the kind of guy whose not even worth replying to but I figure I’d go ahead and point out your stupidity.

      2. Agreed.
        When the husband stopped getting a dowry to cushion the wife’s initial costs, could no longer own and discipline her to keep her in-line, and marriage became easy to break (with ex-wife’s theft of ex-husband ‘s resources), that was when marriage became a suckers game; even the insurance of pre-nuptial agreements maybe disregarded by courts in some countries!

    1. Show me a guy who hasn’t fantasized about banging one of these and I’ll show you Barack Obama’s Libertarian speeches —

      1. Never fantasized about banging a porn star or cam whore. They actually repel me. To me its like dragging your dick along the floor of a public urinal.

      2. Cam whores / pornstars / etc….this is all bullshit you jerk off too, not shit you actually put your dick in, but even jerking off to it is pretty fuckin low dogshit…I’d rather read an article titled IGNORE SLUTS AND ALL WOMEN FOR A DAY than on how to pickup camwhores and strippers…what are you catering to 16 year olds? Yeah man, we know there’s a lot of sluts out there, but reinforcing their behavior is the OPPOSITE way to fuck them…have you not noticed that sex is the hottest commodity its ever been and yet girls are the most defensive they’ve ever been as well…its cuse no men are shaming the fuck out of them…a slut walks by in yoga pants and men gawked instead of bawk…men (not you, your a boy) need to grow the fuck up…I look forward to seeing your next article on how to get rid of all of the std’s you have

  6. There’s only one type of woman — AWALT. And every AWALT has a price.
    Reminds me of the age-old anecdote:
    “A man asks a woman if she would be willing to sleep with him if he pays her an exorbitant sum. She replies affirmatively. He then names a paltry amount and asks if she would still be willing to sleep with him for the revised fee. The woman is greatly offended and replies as follows:
    She: What kind of woman do you think I am?
    He: We’ve already established that. Now we’re just haggling over the price.

  7. I think that Roosh should revisit this topic for an update as its older from 2013. “5 Reasons To Date A Girl With An Eating Disorder”.
    In light of how far down society has fallen already, being able to manipulate the feminist crowd this is this same group could potentially head off most of the #meetoo stupidity. I would assume that the increased medical visits she get insures that they stay STD free/Well treated too.

    1. We will find a good mix of useful feminist neuroeses that can make dealing with them less problematic.

    2. I mean, with the rampant delusions of self worth and all the vocal hatred at men who do not recognized HOW they go about taking care of themselves, they will of course be offended that we use it as a topic of discussion but it goes STRAIGHT TO THE Core of the attention they demand and scream about (another of those female contradictions that plague men).
      They should be hugely happy that we are figuring these things out, but they will play it as a denigrating and dehumanizing when acknowledge EXACTLY THEIR WORK AN METHODS THEY USE TO GET THEIR ATTENTION AS THEY DESIRE. Times have changed from 2013. How about a revisit of it as an open current topic and comments rather than poring over old archived discussions.

    3. “5 reasons to date a girl with an eating disorder” and the ensuing outrage on the web, is the article that introduced me to ROK.
      It’s super memorable to me for that reason; it began my red pill transformation

    4. Always good insight Neal! I get a lot of mail on SD sites from SJWs and they have some very wild and truly strange fantasies about alpha men. It’s almost as if feminism is oppressive to them in the way that Catholicism is to Catholic School girls or Mormonism is in Utah. All three produce “pendulum swinging” extreme kink and the most bizarre requests I’ve ever gotten was from SJWs who had secret dom/sub fantasies with racial overtones or BDSM. Most were too weird for me and I only went out with a couple but like the famous song says “for a good time, for a good time caaAALLL…” I wish to emphasize again for ROK readers, they are ALL fucking nuts so treat them like a snake handler and protect yourself at all times!

    1. That was covered in sections 1-19. All of those subcult chicks are really status signaling.

  8. As a climber, skier and mountaineer, I absolutely LOVE my extreme sports girls.
    I think that, besides the rock hard bodies the thing I like most about them is that they only want to hang out occasionally near the trips we plan. In the mean time I am free to work, work out and live my life in relatively drama-free peace. When it’s time for a climb or ski trip we hook up for a few days before, during and after the play date.
    These women are chronically young, fit and in need of wheels to get them to the trailhead and are always dtf.
    Did I mention that there are no fatties whatsoever?
    Cons include liberal, or granola (there is a difference) politics, and they make shitty dates for events requiring hair, makeup, smelling nice and a dress. There are always town girls for the company Christmas party though.

    1. Great analysis Wayne. I dated an aerial silks acrobat and a rock climber and hung out with all her friends in those communities. Your assessment is spot on!

  9. Lousy article. RoK has until tomorrow to crank out something that scours this bullshit from the collective memory. “Cosplay… cam girls… strippers…” What absolute nonsense.

    1. Dr. G.:
      How about:
      -Crazy lesbians take a cliff dive – an analysis of what playing house with no dick gets you.
      -Female teachers and their inability to understand that you can not have sex with your students – subtopic: Why your license says age 30 and you still act like 15. Also, are student/teacher relationships like incest?
      -Pudding bowl haircuts and psycopathy? Is there a link?

  10. Artsy is cool. Beware of anyone who is self proclaimed as “smart”, it’s short code for argumentative. It gets boring real quick.

    1. To a point yes, but it depends on disposition. I avoid all lawyers and of course any SJW is a “catch and release.” The best intelligent women grew up in traditional homes with still married parents, strong alpha father figures, and brothers. Bonus points for military service. If you are a smart man, realize that a dumb women will not appreciate it so it depends on what is most important to you.

    2. Additional hip online dating buzzwords to avoid are “sarcastic” and “bratty”

  11. The porn star thing. Sure they are tested for STDs, but they still get them all the time…..and all of them have herpes. They don’t test for that.

    1. You are correct. Everything is relative and having been in club scenes where everyone knows what everyone else has, I would say your chances of STD avoidance are much better with porn actresses. The incidence of HSV2 in the general population is 17% but that’s everyone; among people you actually find attractive who are sexually active it is way higher. I’ve dated women before they got into the porn industry and have friends in it now. Life is a calculated risk, no risk, no reward. Fortunately I’ve never contracted anything, which I mostly attribute to avoiding all drug users, regardless of occupation.

  12. I dont know how realistic this article is. In other countries, sure, plenty of women date older guys. I meet 18 year old chicks at the bars in latin america all the time. Here in the states, I usually have to lie about my age. Women don’t need men here thanks to their jobs, and social media meeting all of their needs. So unless you’re SUPER wealthy, they spend most of their twenties at big parties with the girls or bad boys.

    1. This is true most girls in their twenties in america aren’t actively looking for old men to provide for them. The ones that do I noticed usually are pretty messed up in the head and aren’t exactly wifey types. If your an average guy over the age of 35 your not gonna be getting a girl between the ages of 18-25 period. As a young guy in his mid-20s like myself, with average looks, the game isn’t easy but its certainly not impossible if your going out to bars, and active on dating apps like tinder. The bad boys don’t have a monopoly on women like many would have you believe…that is if your young and know how to relate to younger girls these days. Its just that there’s a huge divide between generations with the rapid development of technology and older guys just don’t get young american girls anymore.

    2. Yup -I was going to say the same thing. This article is a pure work of fantasy. If any young hottie is lusting after an older guy regardless of how refined he might be, it’s for his resources, not his companionship, nor his cock. It’s articles like these that lower the quality of content at ROK. Quit feeding us bs articles — the vast majority readers here are red pilled as fuck and know the score out there. This piece is something one would read in bs mens magazines like Maxim or mens health to try to console mean who are past their prime (i,.e,. older than 35).
      Enough already!

    3. Confidence, appearance, money, self control, and her belief that you will not go full stalker if the relationship doesn’t work out. The order of importance varies based upon a woman’s personality type. Contrary to conventional wisdom, the more attractive and smarter a woman is, the more these things actually matter and age matters less. Women will choose an older man who excels at these things over a younger man who does not a great deal of the time, either overtly or discreetly.

  13. Always remember the ghetto philosophy.
    Women ain’t shit
    Good list, also doubles as a list of types of women to avoid for many of the 19.

  14. Video game girls like older men? You are from Los Angeles you bro… girls who play videos either don’t exist or are ugly as fuck. A wealthy older man would never date a girl like that. There is an abundance of hot girls in Los Angeles that come to work in the entertainment industry.. video game girl? Are u fucking retarded?

  15. I have dated strippers. And the relationships (?) were short term. As for the others, I dated Japanese and Filipinas when I lived in Japan. The rest of the girls you mention here I have not dated.
    As for pornstars, the only one I ever saw that I would fuck is Josie Jagger. I’m not looking for a wife and my conscience is clear.
    I see you catching some heat for this article. I say the article is very good.
    I am in my early fifties and I never lie about my age. If a lady has a problem with it she can move on. Yes! Let her get scammed by a PUA.

    1. Thank you Ed, I appreciate the support and kudos for killing it on the catwalk and in the far east!

    2. Edward. Where are the better places in Tokyo to hook up with some local talent? I`m 49 and night clubs aint my thing. Cheers

  16. What the fuck happened to this site?! This shit passes as a helpful article these days?!
    Even as a springboard to more advanced redpill reading, Return of Kings is looking more like gawker for incels.

    1. Sorry but Gawker was way better than this bullshit. Site has totally gone to shit in the past year.

  17. Thats a bullshit list. However, one type of girl usually loves older guys cause they never had a father. That would be the daughters of single moms.

    1. …and are frequently the most promiscuous whores and attention whores out there.

  18. Years ago, I used to vomit my every thought and impulse, to show how “smart” I was. I used to watch 20 yo women in my posh apartment complex turn down the buff frat guys at the pool party. I used to watch them turn down me. And every weekend, I watched them get in cars for dates with guys in their 40s and 50s, the very hottest women. Oh sure, the cars were leased beemers or better but they weren’t royalty rides. I’ve seen plenty of Lamborghini owners get stood up because they were assholes! And then one day as I was moving up in entertainment, the pros started schooling me. And here’s what I learned: the things women hate most in a man is lack of self control, no filter and the inability to make them feel safe, especially from themselves. Uncontrolled outbursts and swirling insecurities are the domain of the woman, not yours. And when you do and say things like the last four comments, you will never ever score (let alone keep) the hottest women. Because every single one of them has a horror story(s) of some guy who went berserk and made their life miserable. They’re watching you, for months, on social media, your every post and comment, to see if you come unhinged about anything and if you ever do, you’re blacklisted, they will not date you. So next time you wonder how you got blown out by the 50yo, it’s not because of his money. Oh sure, no hot woman wants to date an older broke guy who makes his problems her problems. But beyond say $75k/yr, it’s whether or not you refrain from posting the kind of stuff like you see four comments above me. because that’s what the hottest women run away from… right into the arms of an older man because they are so starved for a companion who knows what to do. And I’m not being mean with this; I’m actually here for no other reason than to make people think twice before writing something that tanks their prospects with the very women they hope to attract. I hope everyone in this thread stops for a moment to really ponder this. Where women are concerned, the most attractive thing about power (of text, words, etc.) is knowing when NOT to use it. I love Donald Trump because he’s right… but wome will tell you he’s not sexy. Hope this helps —

    1. “Years ago, I used to vomit my every thought and impulse, to show how “smart” I was.”
      -Sorry bro, but you still do.

    2. Byron – Dude just change your name and start over okay man. Not tryin to be a total fuckin dick here, but if you really want to help men realize fucking strippers and cam sluts isn’t the answer.

      1. I’ve helped countless people avoid the wrong women, find the right ones, or nail really hot wrong ones at the right time. Notice that the nice comments I get are from the men who actually have experience in what I am discussing and the harshest is generally from those who don’t. I try to bring some of that field experience here and share with others the things i was taught by accident but never knew when I was younger and I am willing to take the vitriol from certain people to help those who are receptive. Notice that the harshest criticism always is from “know it alls” — people who haven’t tried what I suggest.

    3. Byron give it up. You articles reveal that you have never scored by picking up women because of your mental skills.
      Repeatedly in your articles, you reveal that it is what work you do that has led you to have any sex with women.
      You come across as a Hollywood Jew whose only means of getting pussy is by having a flashy job title, which can be used to get work for girls in TV and movies, or likely in your case, upscale stripping.
      And when guys have challenged your stupidity here on ROK, you have pulled the same defense every time, your “you can’t control your temper” defense.
      Dude, you are so not believable.

      1. Well, thanks controlling your temper! If you want to know what the very hottest women respond best to, just ask them. Money, confidence, self control, physical appearance, and the belief that you will not go stalker on them if the relationship does not work out. The order of importance of these varies greatly by the type of woman you are dating. Ask to see their inboxes. Go to parties and events and just listen. Incidentally your assessment of me couldn’t be further off base – I’m only in LA 10% of the time, I’m not Jewish, and rarely if ever date women in my line of work.

        1. This is more of your idiocy expressed, Byron / Moron:
          “If you want to know what the very hottest women respond best to, just ask them.”
          Here is a dose of reality for you, Byron / Moron. Never will you know anything from the mouths of the hottest women precisely because you have never talked to one.
          Your weak grammar reveals that you lack self-control.
          You: “…the very hottest…”
          Hottest is a superlative. One cannot surpass the hottest. Adding very is redundant.
          You: ” Money, confidence, self control, physical appearance, and the belief that you will not go stalker on them if the relationship does not work out.”
          That is not a sentence.
          —-
          You have come to ROK to pass yourself off as a pick up artist and now you have confessed to be a guy who dates: ” Incidentally your assessment of me couldn’t be further off base … rarely if ever date women in my line of work.” That implies you date rather than pick up women.
          Guys know that if they date a woman long enough, they are bound to get pussy. Getting pussy that way is no mean feat.
          Byron / Moron, you are not believable.
          Clearly, you’re desperate at this stage of your life. You’re trying to establish yourself through ROK likely in hopes of peddling a pick-up manual of sometime soon in a get-rich-quick scheme.
          Give it up Byron / Moron.

  19. OK this is a classic infiltrator.
    DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
    FOLLOW HIS ADVICE!!!
    **and Roosh, you really need to screen them a little better
    this one may as well be a green-haired SJW.

    1. I understand your sentiment but if you knew who I was, you’d feel incredibly silly right now. I wholeheartedly suggest that you join some SD sites, go out to some clubs, jump in with a group on some bottle service once per month (about $50-75pp when you’re with a group of 10) and get some invites to boat parties, cosplay conventions etc. Do some of these things, watch the men who attract the hottest women, come back in 6mo and tell me I’m wrong. You have to see the world from the other side to begin to understand things and see them as I do. Btw, you can do all of this for very little money once you’re vouched for. Good luck.

  20. This article is a joke.
    Nothing realy real there !
    Could be, but could not be also.

  21. Danica McKellar in the photo for #1 was born in 1975. She hit The Wall about 15 years ago.
    She shows why it wastes resources to send women into college STEM programs. She has a degree in mathematics, and she apparently published a mathematical proof. But since then she has worked as a voice actress in cartoons and starred in TV crap for women like “Inspector Mom” on the Lifetime Channel.

  22. The journalism coming from ROK is on a major decline. Just a bunch of click-bait headlines now and terribly-written articles. Really disappointing.

  23. Y’all know that the Most Interesting Man in the World is ((( ))), don’t you? Personally, I couldn’t care less, but some of you consider that a big deal. Just saying.

  24. Now I go on default setting when Bryon publishes something: is this a troll?
    Terrible advice, no proof.
    Give us proof you bang those without STDs/night spent at the cop shop. And no “yadi yada I am known in the community I can’t”. Pics or did not happen.
    I am repeating myself but you keep sharing your terrible advice. And several call you out and complain about it.
    So let us know. Or write positive, useful articles.
    Cheers

    1. Sorry, I don’t take orders. Use the advice if it helps, if not, well, keep doing what you’re doing. Good luck!

      1. P4P, that’s basically your angle. I’d rather slam a door shut on my fingers than extract “advice” from your articles.

  25. Bryon Flynn gives the worst advice. He tells you either to subordinate yourself and suck up to chicks, .e.g., cosplay chicks, SJWs; or he tells you to buy your chicks, e.g., strippers, club sluts, porn stars, single moms.

    1. I just listed who to marry, who to date casually and who to to pump n dump, the limitations of each and exactly where to find them all if you’re an older guy. I’m not sure what else you want in a short article: I’m not flying out there to hold your hand —

      1. What you have done, Byron / Moron, is express your stupidity in public but behind a pseudonym.
        As to this: ” I’m not flying out there to hold your hand…” It’s all too likely that you hold no female’s hand.
        Based on your horrible advice of sucking up to chicks or buying your chicks, you reveal that you do not know how to pick up women at all.
        Stop pretending Byron. You are only lying to yourself.
        Good luck!

        1. I have no illusions of winning you over; I just wish to point out to toehr readers that you’re no closer to getting the girls you really want since calling me a moron. Were you to direct some of your energy towards following my tips, you might be pleasantly surprised.

        2. Arsehole, it’s not about me. It’s about you.
          You’re not getting any pussy because you are moron. All of the readers of ROK who have read your works and your comment exchanges can see this truth.
          If you were come clean and stop pretending, you might get a woman.
          Good luck!

        3. Such negativity and personal attacks, as if your mission is to personally discredit and silence me — someone you don’t even know — rather than offering better advice or factual refutations that I and other ROK readers on the thread can benefit from. The comments from each of my articles have helped to clarify my views and thinking. I learn a lot in these threads fromthe high caliber readership at ROK and for heaven’s sake I hope not everyone agrees with me as then I would know I am wrong! But your lack of anything constructive to offer here is unfortunate and in general, I find your exchanges to be very puzzling. Again, your mind is made up and my reason for replying several fold is primarily to illustrate to others how NOT to talk to women.

        4. And here you are Byron, begging for my attention and my approval like a bitch. Your neediness blares through.
          Like most with an effeminate mind, you are needy. At the slightest hint of rejection, you try harder to win over another.
          You (stupidly): “! But your lack of anything constructive to offer here is unfortunate …”
          Someone here has failed to offer anything constructive to the readers of ROK, but that one isn’t me.
          You (stupidly): “…and my reason for replying several fold is primarily to illustrate to others how NOT to talk to women.”
          Dude, you claim to be a guy, but now you’re claiming to be a woman. Which is it? Are you a tranny?
          Your standard loser defense has been this: “The way you (talk) write to me isn’t going to score you any women.” It fails every time.
          In your foolishness, if you believe what you preach in your defense, then a guy is supposed to talk to his car mechanic in the same way his supposed to talk to woman he is about ready to charm his way into her panties.
          You would no more do the foregoing than you would talk in the same way to a guy you’re about ready to throw down fisticuffs.
          At this point Byron, your elevated self-delusion and your incessant neediness reveals that you suffer from significant mind disorder and likely mental illness.
          You should consider quitting as you are so far behind as it is.
          Better luck next time!

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