This week I’m going to make a brief departure from my usual format of sharing articles from around the web, and invite you to share with us the things you’ve learned or re-learned in the Manosphere in 2012.
The Manosphere has changed significantly since I started reading back in 2008. There’s been a shift in many game blogs toward more of a lifestyle theme, and I’ve seen several of my favorite bloggers close up shop only to be replaced by some of my new favorite bloggers.
Though I’ve made my transition in and out of the ‘Sphere over the years as both a reader and a guest contributor, and though sometimes the information seems repetitive to the point where I’m a little curious as to why it takes some writers 8,000 words to say “don’t be a wuss,” I still glean information.
I think sometimes we underestimate the need to be reminded of things we already know. Well, at least I’m guilty of that to a certain extent. But now that I’m contributing again, I spend a little more time reading than I normally would, and I’ve learned that being reminded over and over of the same central theme keeps me sharp.
I read a post by Roosh several months ago talking about location and game from a logistical standpoint. I’m moving on January 12th to a newer, nicer place right in the heart of the downtown entertainment district as a direct result of that article. Just by mentioning it around work, I already have two girls who are excited to “know someone in the district” so they can crash after a night of drinking. This is going to get stupid – and I mean that in the best way possible. And no, the extra $350.00 per month is not only so I can get the poosy; it’s closer to work, closer to higher-end organic grocery stores, it has a fantastic gym and a resort-style pool, and there are literally dozens of restaurants and bars within three blocks of my soon-to-be new front door.
NexxtLevelUp had a guest post about online dating. I fired up my long-defunct Match.com profile and retooled it. I didn’t copy and paste the writer’s recommended profile, but I made it my own and kept the spirit of the intent. I’m already seeing more activity and interest than I ever have in online dating, and it’s only been a week. No, its not a miracle cure, and no, women aren’t standing in line outside my front door – but it’s a noticeable improvement.
There’s a post on the forum about OKCupid’s “Best face app.” I opened an OKC account just long enough to use the app (it took a few days to get my report) and then I shut it down since I prefer Match. I now know my best pictures and what type of online girl is in to me (late 20’s/early 30’s, liberal, heavily skewed vegetarian for some reason – pretty much the opposite of everything I find attractive in a woman). But at least I know what I’m dealing with. The report showed a photo of the other guys who beat me out of the contest when my photo wasn’t chosen, so I have a good idea what my competition physically looks like.
I chat on the phone or text with Bronan the Barbarian and Nate at least once per week, and they keep me motivated in the fitness arena.
And who could live without this brilliant reminder of what the red pill truly is…
I already knew that living closer to the action would bring me more action. I already knew I needed to refresh my Match.com account. I already know that putting down the fork and hitting the gym will keep me in shape. I know these things, and I’ve known them for years.
But I appreciate the reminder, and I always try to take things personally. The examples listed above are just a few things I took action on recently. There’s several more from earlier in the year, but you get the idea.
What about you? Did you take anything personally this year? Is there anything you can point to from the Manosphere in 2012 that motivated you to action? Was there any new concept that opened your eyes – or an existing concept that you’re glad you were reminded of?
GAME – How beta get laid.
Beavis and Butthead teach Game too.
Nice one.
LMAO at that last picture.
I will buy this mainly to support Roosh but also because I’m sure I’ll learn something from it. I slept with more than 100 women before there was a such thing as formalized game, just through blind luck. But I bet the quality would have been a lot higher if I had been actively gaming women and understanding the hidden mechanics. A guy picking this up in his late teens or early twenties will be giving himself a tremendous advantage – one that will go a long way to leveling the playing field against older guys with money like myself.
Seems lame no offense to the author
Anyone see all the idiots yelling at the senate confirmation hearings ?
I’m the only one who left a nice comment but it was instantly deleted. Fuck this shit.
R00sh is a forbidden word.
Eau Sauvage trumps Drakkar if you’re over 30…just saying. There are two scents that trump Eau Sauvage…but men of mystery need to keep some secrets.
Game is analogous to running a business.
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Step 1, sometimes called inner game, is to figure out what you want. If a guy is in business just because his father told him to do so, for example, but he actually would prefer being a musician, then he’ll probably self-sabotage and fail. Likewise, if a guy is chasing women just to impress other guys on RVF with his notch count, but deep down he doesn’t care that much and realizes that the juice with modern women mostly ain’t worth the squeeze, then he’ll fail. Honest self evaluation is part of this step. What are you now, what can you change, how much work are you willing to put in, etc.
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Step 2 is market analysis. Who are the women who can give you what you want? What do these women want in exchange? Where can these women be found? (Hint: the two main things young women want nowadays are validation and money. Validation means impressing other women, or the internalized version of other women’s opinion that exists in every woman’s mind: her conscience, that is. A man validates a woman when her friends, or inner conscience, are impressed that she managed to snag him.) Young women mostly don’t care about sexual pleasure itself, so offering that by itself will typically get you nowhere. Only if the sexual pleasure comes in a form that can impress their girlfriends, including “friends” on social media, do they get excited. Thus a skank may fall for crude sex offers from the right guy because in her skank social circle crude sex with that guy impresses other girls, but the same sex offered in a way that won’t impress other girls she’ll reject. In other words, women mostly don’t care about feeling good physically, rather they want to look good to other women.
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Step 3 is product development. Make yourself into something that will appeal to the women identified in step 2. Perhaps improve your looks, your social skills, your social circle, your finances, etc.
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Step 4 is actual marketing. Take your product and sell it to your customers. Even people who desperately want the product you are selling can’t buy if they don’t know about it. You also need closing skills, to convince customers who are on the fence to go ahead and make the final purchase decision. (Last minute resistance in PUA terms.)
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R00sh focuses on steps 3 and 4, and especially on hard sell tactics to get girls to buy a product they don’t really want, because that was what he always was: a sex pest who girls didn’t really want but who finally wore them down with sleazy sales tactics like a timeshare salesman would use. When a guy is truly attractive, he doesn’t face last minute resistance. On the contrary, he’s probably the one putting up resistance (“do I really want to risk getting this worthless skank pregnant and thus tying my life to hers permanently?”)
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R00sh completely neglects using money to make a man appealing to women. This is because he failed to do steps 1 and 2 properly. Regarding step 1, most men are not so desperate for validation as R00sh and the other manlets at RVF. Normal men need occasional sexual access to young, compliant and attractive women to feel “complete”, but we don’t need to impress guys on RVF that we got it for free. Regarding step 2, recall that money is one of the two things young women truly want from men.
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Given that young women often want money, offering money pretty much eliminates the need for steps 3 and 4. Yes, a client does need to be clean and pleasant (which would fall into step 3), but most men need to be clean and pleasant to get along with people in general, so a non issue. Yes, a client does have to advertise his availability to working girls (step 4), but that’s pretty easy: just pick up the phone and dial, or show up at a bar where working girls hang out, etc. Last minute resistance is non existent in the PUA sense of that term.
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Basically, hiring a working girl is like hiring a dentist or lawyer or other service professional. All the skills you use to evaluate these other service professionals, before committing to hiring, transfer nicely to hiring working girls. In other words, paying cash for sex allows a man to act like a man instead of lowering himself to the level of a girl, jumping through hoops to be some trained poodle she can impress her friends with (google Chippendales images) which is what R00sh’s type game amounts to.
Post of the year! Go and post that in RVF and see the reaction!
But NS (first post) nailed it
GAME – How beta get laid
Yea alphas pay to get laid.
Effin moron
Goat let me tell you why chasing a tail is better, beyond hiring a prostitute.
(And if you’re skilled, decent looking banging that tail will be easy and quick.)
There will be passion in sex. Its not just some filthy whore that’s counting the seconds for you to finish so she can get the hell outta there. Abd that way more pleasure and intense orgasms. You can actually kiss the girl, go down on her, etc. If you do that with a filthy prostitute your a moron taking stds in regard besides it would be disgusting cause youd be like the 5th person she has had sex with that day. Accomplishment… you’ve actually brought in a girl to your bed that wants to be with you for you. After you fuck her you will feel fine withyourself… after fucking prostitutes theres just uncertainty about if you caught stds
What exactly do you think the oligarchs here in Eastern Europe are, betas? Because they pay. They get HB10s in exchange for paying. And they get those HB10s on their terms, no need to play the clown and worry if they are leading the conversation or not and all the other “game” shite fake alphas have to worry about. If the girl doesn’t behave, she is dismissed and so has to go work at some crappy clerical/retail job instead of doing what comes natural to young women. That’s how real power works in this world, little boy. You want my money, you give me what I want.
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My own HB10 mistress has brains as well as beauty, plus a sense of independence, and so doesn’t like being dependent on a single client. Nor is she stupid enough to go to Dubai where she has no legal rights. Instead, she has a small number of exclusive foreign clients, yours truly included, who visit her regularly in Kyiv. Given the low costs here, it’s a win-win for everyone. We men get access to a young high class beauty at low cost by our standards, she gets an easy life and high income by local standards.
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And of course I kiss her, go down on her, etc. She’s cleaner than the sluts you’re dealing with, I’m sure of that. Because unlike your stupid sluts, she is disciplined and intelligent. She can’t afford STDs. Do you even understand how the upper class lives, little boy? These bogey woman ideas about “filthy prostitutes” is precisely what I’d expect to hear from a fat ugly feminist.
I read RVForum because there’s some useful info there still, and so I know who Prosal is/was, but I’m not him. He’s an idiot, anyway, paying too much in advance to his girl. As Machiavelli and others note, you can never rely on gratitude, but rather must always cultivate dependence. Pay generously if you want, but pay per meet, so the girl always has an incentive to continue to behave well lest you cut off the money supply.
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BTW R0oshv, there’s a helluva lot more money involved with the sugar daddy scene than game. Game is for broke dudes and you can’t get money from guys who are broke. You know, like, can’t squeeze blood from a stone. Think advice like in the previous paragraph. You can’t make much money directly selling advice about sugar daddying, but becoming an authority opens the door to being go-between as auxiliary business, and big money there, just ask SeekingArrangemen. Obviously, with the new SESTA law there are legal issues, but those very legal issues open the door for new entrants in the market who can overcome these issues.
What exactly do you think the oligarchs here in Eastern Europe are, betas? Because they pay. They get HB10s in exchange for paying. And they get those HB10s on their terms, no need to play the clown and worry if they are leading the conversation or not and all the other “game” shit fake alphas have to worry about. If the girl doesn’t behave, she is dismissed and so has to go work at some crappy clerical/retail job instead of doing what comes natural to young women. That’s how real power works in this world, little boy. You want my money, you give me what I want.
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My own HB10 mistress has brains as well as beauty, plus a sense of independence, and so doesn’t like being dependent on a single client. Nor is she stupid enough to go to Dubai where she has no legal rights. Instead, she has a small number of exclusive foreign clients, yours truly included, who visit her regularly in Kyiv. Given the low costs here, it’s a win-win for everyone. We men get access to a young high class beauty at low cost by our standards, she gets an easy life and high income by local standards.
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And of course I kiss her, go down on her, etc. She’s cleaner than the sluts you’re dealing with, I’m sure of that. Because unlike your stupid sluts, she is disciplined and intelligent. She can’t afford STDs.
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These bogey woman ideas about “filthy prostitutes” is precisely what I’d expect to hear from an ugly woman who fears the consequences of widespread acceptance of soft prostitution: namely, male thirst will flow to the beauties, as men accept sharing top quality women (for a fee) versus exclusive access to a pig. Why are you so afraid of it?
Gota funny thing here is that you actually believe and trust a prostitute. How naive can you get? Makes me think you’re a noob in this game. I’ve had my share of prostitutes as well and nr1 rule is never believe a damn thing they say. That whore you seem to be in love with may sleep with dozens of men weekly. And you say she seems clean downthere. Most stds can’t be seen you know. Anyway goodlu k with that. Wish you the best.
Well, actually, there is one downside to sharing women, whether run of the mill sluts, high class pros like my shared mistress, or low class whores. You must wear a condom. My shared mistress insists on it, which is precisely why I don’t worry about going down on her. Condom makes no difference in my enjoyment of penis in vagina sex and I don’t care about blowjobs, so not an issue for me. If you really hate condoms, then you can hire an exclusive mistress, though that will cost more, plus you can never really trust women, as all red pill men should know.
That romantic thing you tell about is what you do with wifes and girlfriends.
People who learn game want disgusting sluts mostly, or?
Poor Chris, my vast experience with whores allows me to conclude the following:
They tend to be (and in many cities / countries HAVE to be via official paperwork) much cleaner than civilians (non-pros). Their pussies are rarely raunchy smelling and anal is never gross like it can be with regular bar chicks — which continues to surprise me. They tend to take their hygiene much more seriously. The fact that a 19-year-old uneducated chica on the streets in Tijuana (during summer temperatures) can keep her pussy fresher than an upper-middle-class, 41-year-old female lawyer in Canada continues to astound me…
They tend to be MUCH more honest than civilians, as the $$$ exchange for sex dissipates the cloud of dishonesty hanging over “normal” relationships.
If you build some chemistry with whores, sex can be very passionate and can include kissing, oral sex etc. And yes, whores can be gamed also.
Although making an experienced whore orgasm can be difficult, it’s possible. And if she likes you, then she may make herself cum in front of you for the fun of it. Although it’s not my scene, I’ve heard from others that sharing soft drugs (pot) with working girls often pays huge dividends in terms of passionate sex and orgasms.
Because of the money I pay (which is not much above “street value”), street girls will compete for my attention in some of the places I frequent — proving to me that they REALLY do want to be with me. I chose them for their youth / looks / passion level; they chose me for $$$ obviously, but also because I give them a pleasant experience and perhaps a peek into the “good life” — a world they will never be apart of regardless of the number of tricks they turn.
Hey allister, street hookers will fight over you cause it’s strictly business and your their income. Beta bux as they say around here.
They’re not fighting over you, the person but what’s in your pocket.
I find it funny i have to point it out. Of course, on thing i know they value is people with good higiene and that treats them with respect will be considered a good costumer. You probably fit in that description but that’s that.
yeah, basically, a beta get laid by paying, or goes full Japanese Whaling, trannies or doing 10 years post wall women. How a Beta can laid an average looking 21 years old one with a BMI under 25?
Will this be available on audible?
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You’ve tested positive for aids
An Iranian is needed to learn white american men how to pick up girls.
Roosh, is that you? Don’t insult your echo chamber. They subsidize you.
What’s next, my dear Brother !?
An Hindustani is needed to lead Microsoft Corporation !?
An Hindustani is needed to lead Google Corporation !?
An Hindustani is needed to lead a Multi-Specialist Hospital !?
An Chinese is needed to lead or do something for the MEN in United States !?
It is NOT about being an Iranian or Hindustani or Chinese or somebody else:
It is about MEN helping fellow MEN
It is about MEN learning from fellow MEN
It is about MEN leading fellow MEN
It is about MEN depending on fellow MEN
It is about MEN trusting fellow MEN
*** It is all about the Brotherhood. MEN must stay UNITED ***
Do you think that I (a brown!) will be happy if a white Brother gets divorced raped ?
Do you think that I will be happy if a white/black/brown/yellow/whatever gets falsely accused ?
Do you think that I am happy with the mainstream media insulting MEN & MASCULINITY ?
Do you think that I am happy with the leftists, ungrateful pussies and those 4 channels attacking the President Mr. Trump ?
If your answer is YES; then there’s nothing I can say!
If your answer is NO; then you are already part of our Brotherhood @ ROK