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Final Presidential Debate Between Hillary Clinton And Donald Trump (OPEN THREAD)

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339 thoughts on “Final Presidential Debate Between Hillary Clinton And Donald Trump (OPEN THREAD)”

    1. I’m torn between wanting a mature, presidential Trump and an unschackled, balls out, don’t give a facck Trump.

      1. Wish there was another vp debate, pence covered the cool and calm aspect really well. Trump is just gonna do his thing

    3. You know, if you want to discredit this claim the way to do it is amplify. Get a tweet trending:
      #trumpgrabbedmy
      Then guys, girls, everyone does it, dilutes the losers who are trying to get attention for it.

      1. This is a brilliant move. Hillary used amplification to play down Benghazi, turning it into a joke.

      2. dude….thats fucking genius.
        twitter nerds….get on that shit. i dont have a twitter or a twitter following so i can’t. but get on it

    6. Humph……….. Did Trump turned funny lately ???
      The accusation is false, but the penis is true ?

    1. Other than Hillary trying to say she supports the 2nd Amendment, but also supports common sense regulation to save the toddlers, nope. She sounds fucking retarded and has flip flopped already.

  11. Would be funny if her false teeth fell out when she does that mouth gaping head bobble.

    1. Yeah to us that’s a boom statement but, unfortunately to the majority of voting population this election isn’t about anything substantive but, about emotions and identity politics.

  14. Hitlery: “Anybody who should be deported, we should deport them”
    …or give them free citizenship and let them loose on the streets because their own country doesn’t even want to take them back?

    2. Trump should have stated that he supported Israel’s wall, and expected them to support our’s.

      3. Many non-whites are with him as well, those that love the country but cannot express open support for one reason or another.

        1. There other non whites who were for slavery and supported Jim Crow too but fortunately those that do are in the small minority today smh

        2. Yes I forgot, (guess its because I got too much of that bigoted white DNA in me) I forgot it’s all because another black man was shot fleeing from police after resisting arrest (again) and then ignoring orders to stop (again), and that is all totally 100% equitable to the horrors of legal slavery. Thanks for clearing that up, duder. Meanwhile, law abiding African Americans get to have their neighborhoods even less patrolled by police and further controlled by gangs now that #BLM is successfully convincing police to give up enforcing laws in certain neighborhoods. #SUCCESS!!!

      6. And exactly why would blacks vote Clinton? It is exactly as Trump says, she address them and calls for their votes, and then forgets about them all together if they are lucky. If she does remember it will be like Bill’s presidency where he filled the jails with Black and cut millions of them off assistance.

        1. Because apparently dummy drumpf spent a lot of time in the black community and think of black America as nothing but lazy and criminals and getting shot why would he want their votes? Smh no thanks says the black community just keep pandering to the yt bigoted crowd

        1. To me, she’s like the bitchy teacher from the last bunch of Harry Potter movies, and the Joker from batman, rolled up into one.

  18. LOL so far: “Hillary voted for the wall but because she never gets anything done it never got built”

    1. I wish he’d have said it like that though. He seems to have less bite than last time.

  19. Dude! Wallace brought out the Wikileaks!
    And now Hillary’s bitching about Russia. I love it!

  20. Final prez debate? More like Final Prez debate for America.
    -Hillary shut down Wiki- this tells me me her corruptions and dishonesty is deep and global.
    The left has no morals or honesty. We will find out in this election the real matrix of America or whether the soul and any remaining intellect of this country is gone forever and if america has become a nation of liberal sheep.

  22. Bring up Saudi Arabia!!!
    DAMN! Why didn’t he bring it up? She goes on and on about Russia… SHE GETS MONEY FROM SAUDI ARABIA, they are the ones interfering… IN HER FAVOR!!
    Not Russia!!!

      1. No snarky comments or biting remarks though… perhaps he is holding back on purpose, like in the 1st debate.

      2. If the 2nd debate was Trump hitting Hillary with a sledgehammer, I’d say this debate is more of a surgical strike than anything.

      3. I think so too, from my personal biased point of view. I’m doing my best to try to watch from an undecided voter point of view. Immigration isn’t necessarily connected to or directly their biggest issue.

  25. She’s rattled, it looks like she’s reading notes and is forcing answers. On the other hand, I don’t think Trump hasn’t taken his eyes off of her.

  26. The moderator hit her on her open borders comments in wikileaks. That was good. Got home from work and turned the radio off to walk into the house while she was ranting about Russia in reply.

    1. Right, but it just means ‘open borders for energy’. I guess that’s what her pal George ‘Open Borders’ Soros is all about too.

  27. HClint: “Ten people with the awesome responsibility of (nuclear weapons) wouldn’t trust you with the trigger” …Biatch ain’t no one trust you with an email.

    2. I think this is election is all about the old media vs the new media. It’s interesting that Trump talks about ‘that tape’ as if everyone knows what he’s talking about. Most of us know about it or can check it out, but the mass of the newspaper-reading or TV-watching public have no clue what he’s on about.

  32. “He called ____ disgusting”
    Yeah because SHE IS!!! That woman was a fucking liar, OF COURSE SHE’S DISGUSTING.

  33. Anybody who’s ever played sports knows when an opponent is finished, but still hanging by a thread. Hillary looks like one of those defeated opponents.

  34. “everything I did was in service of our country”
    OMG Trump’s face was just precious when she said this, hahahahaha
    EDIT: OHHHHH Saudi Arabia and Haiti, FINALLY!
    “They don’t want you to help them anymore.”
    Nice.

    1. why not? She could claim Trump created the foundation and the media would cover for her.

    2. I’m amazed at her ‘94% goes to charity’ claim. Um, that’s not what I heard. Good for Trump mentioning Haiti.

        1. (Deleted duplicate post.) Disqus is acting very flakey lately by the way, I often can’t type in the edit box, have to refresh, etc.

        4. I get that to.
          try clicking outside the comment box a few times, then try typing. Sometimes works better.

  37. “He (moan) goes after their ( women’s) dignity (whine), their self worth (snivel) and I don’t think he knows what it f-f-f-feels like.”
    Well, that’s how I heard it anyway.

  38. Very assertive on the tax stuff here. They tried to talk over him, he didn’t let them. He also brought up how her donors, like Soros and the other guy, did the exact same thing as he did.

  39. Wallace mentioned the Clinton Foundation in a negative fashion, does that mean he’s gonna end up dead under mysterious circumstances?

        2. I forgot to mention, after four bullets to the head, he drove to the bridge and typed a suicide note.

        2. It’s a damn shame they weren’t able to get enough money to fund that movie starring Uncle Ruckus.

    2. God bless him. It’s about time she was pressed on this.

  40. 2/3rds over. Trump is attacking more and bringing up issues the MSM media won’t. He is doing much better than the first third.

  42. I’m tired of these faggots in the audience laughing at Trump and clapping for Hillary.

    1. Looks like a few claps for Trump too I guess; but still, how much money do they have to pay these people to clap for Hillary?

    2. I didn’t hear any of that, to be honest. I heard the moderator address the crowd, but I couldn’t tell why. This was CNN, maybe your network had the audience mic-ed better.
      Also, what were the protestors yelling before the debate started? There was a lot of noise but I couldn’t make anything out.

  44. Instead of just trash talking and repeating himself he should be Hammering Hillary. Poor showing for Trump

    1. I have to agree. He could have been hammering her. Whoever advised him tonight in debate prep needs to be fired immediately. Trump shines when he acts like himself , tonight he’s not quite acting like himself. Its like he’s consciously restraining himself and holding back. He’s doing ok, its kinda a draw , but he had some serious amunition to use against her, but he just didn’t use it.

      1. He has plenty of ammo from emails, from FBI documents and those undercover videos that he could hammer her on a different topic of crookedness from now until Election Day but he just keeps getting hung up on trash talking.

      2. Women don’t respond rationally… They would not vote for him because they’d think he’s acting like a bully… Such application of a style of morality more suited to use in children has absurd ramifications in adult civil discourse, but this is the half of the audience he’s having to target most now (he’s already convinced men.)

  45. Hillary has mentioned that dusty, blood child in the last two debates. I believed it when I saw it and I believe it now: that picture was not authentic. The media got way too big of a hard on for it.

    3. That one and the dead kid on the beach. The latter to soften up Europe for the ‘Syrian refugees’. Instead they got a bunch of 30 year old ’13 year olds’.

    4. What’s ridiculous about that picture is that the child was in that state as a direct result of Hillary’s trigger happy foreign policy.

    5. Ha, the kid will grow up to be a terrorist. It’s in their blood. These are seriously fucked up people.

    2. If the globalists actually cared about women, they wouldn’t import rapists from third world countries, make excuses for their crimes because “we have to respect their culture”, and then cover up their crimes.

      1. The mugrats trump even women and LGBT on the victimology totem pole.
        (Trump – no pun intended.)

  48. If womens’ irrational votes allow an openly treasonous and breathtakingly corrupt criminal into the oval office because she happens to have a vagina and the competition is sometimes not always perfectly nice and respectful to women I say it’s the beginning of the end of women’s suffrage in the west.

    1. Whats interesting I’ve noticed is on a lot of social media white women are the ones backing trump. Its white knight beta males who are the ones “appalled” by him along with disgusting feminists

      2. Those white knight beta faggots disgust me. You can smell the desperation in their virtue-signalling a mile away: “OMG Trump is such a disgusting misogynist and I never speak about women like that. Men, it’s on us to call out any other man who talks like this because it’s contributing to rape culture!” Translation: “Look at what a sensitive, progressive nice guy I am. Please ladies will one of you notice me and finally touch my penis?”Pathetic.

    2. It will be, because sharia law will replace the constitution. Women’s rights will be out the window faster than you can shout “Allahu Akbar!”

  49. I’m waiting for Hitlery’s robot eyes to start rolling and her voice modulator to go digital static blurb.

    3. Very true, but it becomes another anti-woman thing. Hilly hit him back with “blah blah women blah blah” shortly after.

      1. Which was kind of failing I think..Trump was going on about ISIS, the economy, important stuff. And she starts talking about the goddamn women again ! I think people are really tired of the word “women” even women.

        2. Yes
          I keep hearing from lefty twats how Trump ‘doesn’t have any policies’ & ‘he’ll start all these wars..blah, blah blah’
          Every time he has gone onto policy, she immediately starts this ad hominem projection crap – basically cause she can only play the woman card as all her policies are fucking shit and always have been

  51. Not as much bite as I would have liked, and not as bad-ass as the 2nd debate, but I thought he did pretty good.

    2. +2. I was hoping for a knockout punch of the “You’d be in jail” variety this time, but instead he won on points alone.

  54. Now she’s going around shaking hands with people after using that hand to wipe snot off her nose a little while ago. Such a nasty woman.

    1. I can’t get over how f*cking creepy her face is, even now as she shakes everybody’s hands.

      1. I have a hard time putting words to just how much I dislike her. She is just so…..fake.

  55. I have come away from this debate very disheartened, not because I believe that Trump performed badly, in fact he did great. What disheartens me is the fact that not once did Hillary deny anything she was accused of, whether it was the o’keefe video, taking money from countries like Saudi Arabia, giving exclusive access to her donors during her time as Secretary, or the comment about open borders given to a Brazilian bank, and yet MILLIONS are going to out on November 8th and vote for her.

    1. She knows enough people don’t care that it doesn’t matter. Trump needed a homerun, and all he came up with was a base-hit.

      1. Her smile alone tells the story, she knows the game is over. The most emotion she showed was when Trump said he would not accept the results of the election until he looks at things the day of, she was enraged that he would possibly suggest wrong doing. It was almost as if she already knew she was going to win and the fact that possibly millions of Trump supporters could take to the streets in defiance of her win was something she wants to avoid at all cost.

        2. How to win an American election:
          1] Make sure you have Goldman Sach’s blessing [very important].
          2] When backed into a corner, supply the race or gender card.

        4. Looked at 3 “msm” sites, all solidly in the Hillary camp. This collusion is unbelievable. And we don’t have a media left to report it.

        5. I do not think it would matter even if we did, the truth is right in front of everybody and Trump has been calling the media out from the beginning. Hillary could probably bathe in children’s blood on camera and her supporters would still vote for her.

        9. While I was watching the youtube feed I received almost identical Hillary supporting or Trump bashing notifications from both CNN & BBC. It’s as if they all agreed together which headline to send.

        11. She could bring out her underaged boy lovers in admittance of it, take a dump onstage and shoot a 5 year old in the debate and she will still get voted. Women will just say you go girl for still getting it on with younger boys and all the Cuck supporters will think she’s a badass MILF they would jack off to

    2. Evil Hillary is the nice face of evil incarnate. Her evil is made possible by her minions of evil in the DNC, SJWs, Leftists, etc.
      If one votes for Evil Hillary one votes for death and destruction, i.e., Satan.

  56. Trump didn’t need to go full throttle on Hillary tonight. He did what he needed to do, and she was clearly shaken up and also caught with her shoe stepping in her own shit. Most of the wikileaks stuff is not common knowledge to common people. He mentioned just enough to pique their interests, and that’s what is most important. Maybe a bunch of fence-sitters will quit being jackasses and actually research for once. Trump won. Hillary was clearly rattled much of the night and I’m sure people took notice.

    1. Of the six females in my immediate family, four would have to be tied up on election night. Think how bone headed some relative ding bat who watches women’s channel can be.
      On a better note, I saw one single Hillary yard sign in months today. Trump yard signs are everywhere. I wanted to stop and chat with the Hillary person’s house and tell them that they have the only sign for Hillary probably in the zip code. I would try to fish if they are dem party members or what? They probably are.

      1. “Of the six females in my immediate family, four would have to be tied up on election night.”
        why wait….tied them up now, that way they can’t infect more folks on facebook.

  57. BOY is she a . . . .

    What the hell is she going to do for children?? She’ll unleash armies of goon squad CPS and social workers in the schools to nab kids and lose them in the government black hole as the kids are peddled on the ‘market’ just like the jew dem cabal has being doing for decades. It’s a human meat market. Cross your fingers for wild card Donald for the sake of kids and families. Every local level judge that ever ran on a ‘helping the welfare of children’ platform has been closely tied in with the mobster run kid trafficking market. The bitch must be stopped. The Don has inertia.

  58. I think the election has already been decided. The supposedly conservative Prince Alaweed-owned Fox News was saying that Trump was the “underdog” going into this debate. Americans care about emotions; not debt bubbles, trade deals, or safe borders.

    1. Yes, and the Fox News moderator asking prior to the results if Trump will accept a Clinton victory reeked of bullshit. The fix is in!

    1. I wonder if the west died tonight… Or if Trump paved the way for someone to take up the mantle?

      1. I think there is a reason our soldiers called them sand niggers. Hell, even the black guys called them sand niggers because they are mostly a bunch of fucking animals. Who are chickenshit to fight war in their own country so they leave their own women and children behind to go fuck white women in Europe. And before you think I am a rascist because I use the word nigger, go read Taleeb Starkes book “The Uncivil War: Blacks vs. Niggers”…written by a righteous black man stuck living in the ghetto. He should get a fucking Nobel prize or a Pulitzer for that.

        1. “Not so much”
          Says the guy whom comment on blogs multiple times per day, every single day.
          Your denial has as much layers than an onion. It’s fascinating, and interestingly enough, somehow, kinda a tear-jerker too.

        2. Oh poor little waif. Isum feewings huwt?
          Go back to the kitchen sweety, men are talking.

        3. Men are not “talking” here. It’s just basic bonding of primitive insecure beings.
          Really unlikely to have the tools to hurt the feelings of more evolved beings: my dear, don’t confuse me with your bored wife <3

  62. About accepting the result of the election. If I am not mistaken didn’t the Democrats contest the George W and Al Gore election result????

    2. Everyone seemed to forget how long the 2000 recount took. It went back and forth, neither side accepted it, for quite some time. Some people still aren’t quite over it.

    3. Yep. A perfect response to her “outrage” would have been “So, how’s Al Gore doing these days?”

        1. Right. Just saying, he didn’t lay down and “accept the outcome”. And I don’t fault him for that actually. The “accept the rigged election or else” question was beneath the moderator, who was more or less right wing. He should have known better.

        2. Actually, didn’t Gore lay down? As I recall, he contested a bit at first, but then gave up asking for a full official recount. But yes, I immediately thought of Gore when Trump was asked this ridiculous question. Anyone who remembers the Bush Gore election would be an idiot to just say “Oh, yes, I’ll just quietly accept whatever the powers that be say happened on Election night.”
          I felt so good when Trump didn’t cave and meekly say he would accept whatever the media masters told him. Even if he loses legitimately, he should continue to fight strongly for his ideals and criticize Clinton for the myriad of mistakes she will continue to make. Not just retreat with his tail between his legs because a slight majority in the electoral college was fooled by Clinton’s antics.

        3. The ‘lay down’ question doesn’t assume perpetual opposition and defiance. Well, I hope it doesn’t, that would be horrid.
          I loved his answer to that question. And he didn’t back down. Dude’s balls are so big he might have to start wearing a kilt (because, that’s why us Scots wear them).

    4. The ‘Dems’ rejected the Florida gold coast shenanigans but if the elites attempt to take the office by outright armed robbery, Trump will personally have to stand and reject the fraud regardless of the large number of unsupportative republicucks. The Trump rallies have amassed a huge grass roots fan club that will press on where many sell out neo con cucks slither away and do their turncoat. The people and support for trump outnumber the schuysters by a landslide. That’s the hint of nervousness you saw in the MSM tonight. It’s either a win or a grass roots rumble win and it’s high time for it.

    5. That was particularly idiotic. Given everything Wikileaks and Project Veritas have exposed, Trump is really expected to just say, “Yeah, it’s cool” no matter what happens? And, why wasn’t Hillary asked the same question? I’d like to know if Hillary would accept election results that read: Trump – 50.1%; Clinton – 49.9%. Would she accept those results?

        4. Damage control in full force tonight.
          “Listen I work for CBS, the media isn’t rigged. According to an internal poll of CBS, the system isn’t rigged so there you go, obviously not rigged.”
          I’m only slightly paraphrasing the initial CBS reaction to this debate.

  66. Here goes megyn (women) kelly she’s got to talk about the women and Trump everytime. Its all about the women, america votes based on women and only women according to megyn women kelly.

  67. Hillary looks so damn robotic, the more she talks the worse she looks.
    All of her mannerisms…especially her weird open mouth laugh without making noise is outright strange. Anytime she tried to be emotional and connect, she looked not even the slightest bit authentic. She looked like a bad actor.
    Im seriously thinking hillary has aspergers syndrome. Her debate prep was spent taking acting classes to try to act normal.

    1. That grimace smile is the worst. It’s like she’s baring teeth in order to attack. No draw up on the eyes to indicate a real smile, just a toothy grimace.

    2. General public opinion is like silly putty. That’s the general public. But I reserve my respect for critical thinking men and proper loyal tit feeding women.
      You must be human to become president so we thought. A robot is neither man or woman. I would never vote for an ugly robot much less any robot. Presedential voting should include downvoting too like on disqus.

    1. Women are not capable of creating civilization, but they sure as hell are capable of bringing it down.

        1. Alien and Aliens were two gems belonging to different genres.
          Alien 3 had a lot of potential lost due to studio interference, a problem that would plague every Alien and Predator movie to follow.

  71. Interesting.
    BreitBart polls are hacked. We know BB is 100% pro Trump, yet Hillary is “ahead”, but look at the comments section, all of the comments are “WTF?” And there’s a lot of comments.
    Second, Trump easily won on substance and style. That Witch was eyes down and guilty looking 90% of the debate. Don had her dead to rights and her body language clearly conveyed this. Rapid blinking, eyes down, anger looks, etc, she was *pissed*.
    Third, i gauged my wife. She’s so right wing she’d make most of you fuckers look like Hipster pansies. But she’s said from time to time that he has a presentation problem. He’ll engage too long on some subjects, and won’t withdraw into basically an “alpha” stance. He’ll linger on things and let them go long beyond when pressure works. And she’s right. Tonight, she said, he’s on point. He’s clearly been coached on when to attack and when to hold back. She was 100% MAGA, now she’s probably ready for MAGA + 100%.
    Something to consider, in any event.

    1. Yeah, Hillary winning 60 – 40 on Brietbart? I’ve never seen a single poll that has her that far ahead. And considering BB readership it should be about 10-90. Goes to show, never trust polls.

      1. Goes to show collusion and rigging. But yes, never trust polls.

        1. There was a very interesting analysis done during the primaries in which exis polls were compared to the actual results. In states with paper ballots hillaries leads were much lower than in states in which electronic polling was the norm. She did best in those “hacks me” states.

        2. I believe the international standard for detecting vote rigging is comparing exit polls versus the ‘actual’ results. (Of course exit polls could be rigged also.)
          Trump could have mentioned if the exit polls are way off or there are widespread reports of vote fraud there are reasonable grounds for claiming vote rigging.

        3. There were/are a number of issues that he could have brought to light. The analysis done was eye opening.

        4. This sort of analysis has recently been applied to the Democrat primary by researchers at Berkely and Stanford who concluded:
          ‘Looking at the discrepancies between the exit polls and the final tally, nearly all are in favor of Hillary Clinton by a huge margin. This is statistically impossible (“The probability P of this happening is 1 in 77 billion”).’
          Quoted in http://investmentwatchblog.com/top-pollsters-luntz-caddell-agree-trump-can-win-this-thing/

      2. Vegas betting lines show Hilary sliding into the presidency with relative ease. It’s going to be ugly for Trump.
        Now, before you start saying I’m for Clinton becoming president, I’m not voting for either one. BUT. I’m definitely putting a solid sum of money on Clinton for the win.

    2. “he has a presentation problem. He’ll engage too long on some subjects,
      and won’t withdraw into basically an “alpha” stance. He’ll linger on
      things and let them go long beyond when pressure works.”
      I fully subscribe to that.

  73. Trump came off pretty weak in the first debate, but I didn’t make a big deal out of it.
    I didn’t say anything after the second debate when so many here thought Trump dominated, because I thought he was roundly defeated.
    But tonight? He absolutely crushed Clinton. She honestly looked a little better with the first question about the supreme court (but then I’m not dying to see Roe v Wade reversed or anything) but from that point forward he destroyed her with every question.
    Particularly good: When she repeated the silliness that Trump is Putin’s Manchurian Candidate for president, and Trump quickly corrected her that he doesn’t even know Putin, but that the US and Russia allying together (instead of allying with the Saudis, the new Iraqi nation, or the South Koreans) would be a great thing.
    Also, Clinton looked terrible when caught with some of the Wikileaks releases. Her response was not “those things aren’t true” or “they were taken out of context” or “let me explain my position and how it relates to what wikileaks released”. No. instead it was “Russian hackers got that info because they want me to lose.”
    Well guess what, if you actually said things that were bad, weak minded, and demonstrated poor leadership, perhaps you shouldn’t be president. Funny how she didn’t deny any of them, just complained about how they were discovered. Thank goodness we have media who is willing to use unconventional methods to uncover the truth.

    1. lib media will say hillary won. I don’t care if she stripped naked and shot 10 people on stage.. they will cover for this vile wretched woman. They will come up with whatever excuse is good for the day. These liberals shut down wiki. I bet some gansters from 1 of the hedge funds had a talk with that country

    2. I don’t normally like the dude, but I’d buy Chris Wallace a beer tonight.
      He wasn’t an utter fucking shill.

  74. Frustrating the way Clinton totally ignored every question about wikileaks, Saudi money, or answered totally off point. Responded to a Haiti question by saying she wants to continue doing good things for Haiti. No denial or acknowledgement of the corruption charges.
    Of course, lamestream media will ignore, because it’s easy to ignore silence.

    1. It was noticed. Every diversion had my wife nearly screaming “She’s not answering the question!!!”

      1. Trump should’ve said something like, “She’s obviously been advised by her attorneys not to answer the question!”

    2. lamestream don’t care what she says and she knows it. She is going to get the “win” regardless. She knows she is ahead and will pull out paid off women if he gets close to her. The election was lost when hlllary lined up a bunch of paid liberal feminist women to go after him. People don’t see what she did.

    3. Yeah but Trump actually called her out on it once tonight. It also helped that he didn’t ramble off topic the way he did in the prior debates.

      1. He’s clearly accepted coaching. Which is a good thing.
        I like a person who can listen to voices other than his own.

  75. I had a lot more respect for this moderator (well, zero respect for the others frankly), but it creeped me out when he said at the end voting is a responsibility for everyone who lives here. I thought it was just for citizens, but recently it’s come out that illegals and green card holders can and do vote.

    1. Wallace controlled the “debate” much better than the previous assholes, anyway. But maybe that was because the candidates were coached to be less asshole-ish themselves.

      1. There was less wandering around the stage and interruptions from the candidates this time and Wallace ran the back and forth discussion better.
        I liked that Wallace posed critical questions to both sides, before it was obviously mostly or exclusively against Trump.

      1. I don’t know if they’re a troll. They might be a comedian. Who knows. I think this is better:
        https://img.ifcdn.com/images/46990ca69572ac94bcd75c4ba3b10a0af92b25e3996fe85667345fdc00ab31da_1.jpg
        I would support my wife so long as she is a good loyal tit feeder but I would never support her running for a man’s office. Are you kidding? What kind of a man would support his wife doing that? AND I can’t even find any memes of Hillary titfeeding . . . anywhere. Figures. Well I found this one and it’s not even real. Shit robots can’t tit feed.
        https://i.sli.mg/IePKXn.jpg
        That’s a lousy meme and the hell if I’m ever making one of her (it). Ain’t worth it.

  77. I kept hoping he would tie the DNC advisor violence bs to all that guy’s visits with Obama, since Hillary keeps parroting obama’s “quit whining” quip. Debate 1: he lost, Debate 2: won, but not by a lot, Debate 3: seemed like a landslide.

    1. It’s a mirror of the Obama/Romney debates, but in our favor. Agreed.

  78. Trump is his own worst enemy as usual. He did much better overall, but could’ve crushed it with two simple moves: 1, striding over to shake her hand at the opening; if she refuses, he looks great, if she shakes, he’s still the noble, statesmanlike leader. Seems like a loser to not at least offer to shake before or even after.
    2 Saying he may or may not accept outcome of the voting is super stupid. Again, he needs to look stable and statesmanlike and should’ve just said, “of course I will accept the outcome.” He could always challenge it later, if it appears there was widespread voter fraud. Which there likely will be. But again, his statement makes him seem petty, un-american and petulant.
    Nonetheless, I think he’ll get a 4-5 point bump from this one, and with the liberal distortions for H and the margin of error, it basically is an even race. As most of them have been for the last several cycles- within 1-2% overall.

    1. yeah got to agree…..i mean get it, his damn pride and all.
      but he really should have bitten that bullet. because now thats all that will be on the news tomorrow. every worthless liberal and half of fox news will be devoted to that for probably a week. hopefully Trump realizes this, maybe briefly mentions it at a rally thursday and moves the fuck on.

  79. He lost the debate, fam:
    1) Gave them soundbite that he wouldnt accept the election “if he lost”
    2) Gave them the soundbite “Such a nasty woman.” ”
    3) Didnt get to mention San Bernadino, or Brussels or Paris or Nice once. *She* mentioned Orlando.
    He was solid otherwise, best ever. But was we know, debates are all about the “Jack Kennedy and “There you go again” lines.

    1. Those will be two headlines in the rags tomorrow
      “She’s nasty” and “won’t accept the (rigged) results”
      His off the cuff candid way has worked with the voters thus far regardless of how the media heads balk at his words.

    2. yeah sadly those two lines are going to overshadow everything else that he destroyed her on. even damn fox news decided to zero in on those two points. like wtf guys….can we please talk about how trump brought up clinton taking money from countries that kill women and how she dodged the question completely?
      granted i will say trump should have and could have explained why lower taxes are a good thing since i don’t think americans understand that instinctively….that needs to be explained better.
      I mean i get it, and could explain it easily….but all i ever hear is lower taxes is good, and i don’t think americans are understanding why precisely that is. more specifically why lower taxes on the rich is a good thing.

    3. I don’t think he lost, but I do think the “nasty” comment is going to bite him in the ass. True though it may be, he would have been better off not saying it.

      1. Nasty woman married to a true sexual predator makes baseless accusations of sexual harassment against a man she’s running against is quite nasty.

        1. Like I said, we all know it’s true. But the media is going to use that against him until election day. He would have been better off not saying it. What’s more, as much as I hate to admit it, every time he interjected while she was talking made him look bad.

    4. Clinton and her cronies keep playing the “Russia is tampering with the election” card. If so, what fool would immediately concede by that theory Clinton is promoting? Al Gore didn’t concede until after 2-3 weeks.
      Project Veritas has Scott Foval and Bob Creamer are on tape admitting to paying agitators at Trump rallies, committing voter registration fraud and bussing out of state to vote which violates election laws. They also admitted their tactics are endorsed “It goes to the top.” Their names are on the Whitehouse visitor logs. The “Rigging” isn’t Russia it’s the DNC. It isn’t being covered and when it is they are claiming O’Keefe is making false accusation. Really? Why are the no longer employed? Why didn’t the DNC stand up for them if the claims are false.
      It’s well known Hillary is a “nasty” woman. My wife is an liberal as they come. She hates Hillary. Many people are quite cognizant she’s corrupt. Only dumbass women snorting or mainlining estrogen would vote for her for having a vagina.

      1. “Clinton and her cronies keep playing the “Russia is tampering with the election” card. ”
        Wow. What a great comeback I never thought of. “If she thinks Russia is tampering with the election, I think it would be irresponsible for either one of us to promise in advance to accept the results until Hillary’s allegations are checked out.”

  80. Wait a minute…pretty sure US nuclear response times and protocols are secret? Great job there, Hillary.

    1. Not to mention when her husband was president, his administration had completely lost the nuclear football for a while.

    2. you know what? fantastic point and i completely overlooked it during the debate. fantastic fucking point.

  81. one thing Trump could have and should have gone over better and really all conservatives need to explain better
    why lower taxes are a good thing. Trump fumbled on explaining this when hit with the “your economic plan will raise the debt”. granted hes hardly the only republican who fumbles on the lower taxes explanation….but i dont think americans understand why lower taxes stimulates the economy….and more importantly why lower taxes on the wealthy and corporations stimulates the economy.
    yes he could also say the bottom 47% dont pay any taxes, but thats picking a fight that doesnt need to be picked as most of those idiots think they actually pay taxes.
    but explaining in clear terms step by step why lower taxes for the rich actually make more money for everyone including the government.
    sure i can explain it easily….but Im not trump. hell the old sid mier video game “colonization” taught me why lower taxes stimulate the economy….that game has taught me damn near everything you need to know about taxes and the economy. its comically sad in retrospect….people probably think I’ve read countless books on this subject….nope just an old as fuck video game.

    1. I wish he’d explained that the Supreme Court is there to rule on whether laws abide with the Constitution, and if the people don’t like what the Constitution says, they can amend it.

      1. i do too….or corrected her when she kept calling us a democracy….but i know that was a bit too much to ask for and would be way over folks heads.
        that said the lower taxes and the economy is something your everyday schmuck might listen too and give him a chance to explain a point he’s been hammering home a lot.

  82. Semi-OT, just saw an anti-Trump ad tonight sometime after the debate that I hadn’t seen before. It montages pictures of nuclear controls, weapons, etc., with stills of Trump at his most deranged looking along with incendiary quotes. It seemed really over the top, and insulting in its clumsy obviousness.
    The only thing missing was a little girl with a flower and a mushroom cloud. (You oldsters will get this reference.)

    2. Yeah I know the cheesy commercial. They did one on Reagan years back. I think they had his name purposely mis spelled as ‘RAY-GUN’. It had the mushroom cloud footage you’re referring to. REAGAN WON BY LANDSLIDE shortly thereafter but the MSM was sweating bullets and saying the election was “too close to call”. It was like a sports announcer at a horse race screaming “THEY’RE NECK IN NECK” as REAGAN flew in a landslide over the finish line and ‘old paint’ Carter was sidelined, re-nailing his tail like ‘Eye-Ore’ the mule from Winnie the Pooh.
      The only thing that the ad lacked was the grackel brid or Peanuts cartoon in the lower corner making an editorial comment . . . and the piano playing music. The same sad ‘one-key-at-a-time’ that doesn’t really qualify as music. It isn’t Beethoven. It’s not even elevator music. Just a slow random ‘b-flat’ . . ‘g-sharp’ . . ‘e’whatever . . (sounds like slowly poking one finger down over the keyboard with a blindfold like you swing at a pinata) . . “bong-ding-dong-tinkle’ . . lt sounds like what they play on a teen drunk driving MADD commercial as they show car wreckage and segue into funeral pics, graduation pics and baby pics.
      But the mushroom cloud I remember. It needed bird feathers floating at the top like the intro to Hee-Haw though. . . And violins too . . like the violins they played on the old ‘Hate Hurts You’ pieces that the Ad Council did about the Jews in concentration camps.
      You would think a certain level of cheesiness is dis-believed and would discredit an advertizement . . . oh but man I could personally show you folks I personally know that eat the shit up and believe it. AND they’re female. . . (or they’re 1st and 2nd graders). AND sadly they’re non blood-related in-law females of voting age. Yes they need literally tied up on election day

  83. Every Candidate in a Democratic Election reserves the right to challenge the Results if they think something was unfair. Yet all across the Corporate Media Spectrum there are cloned headlines and pundits attacking Trump for not surrendering this Democratic right.
    How can these people be seen as Wise People and Media Leaders when their own reasoning powers can be so easily brought into question. They are essentially accusing Donald Trump of being undemocratic for practicing democracy as it is. Imagine how foolish Trump would be if he committed to accept any result, and then livied to see another case where the Florida vote was fixed and he had committed to accepting the corrupt results.
    He gave a presidential answer; and the media has become so corrupt they couldn’t understand it or even analyse it.

  84. BTW notice that Saint Dusty Waambulance Boy was invoked again. He seems to be the new Saint Washed-Up Drowned Kid.

    1. Interesting story came out today:
      Assad Says The Boy in The Ambulance Is Fake – We Show Why
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c77c4c3c3a2f7cf20d785176affd6a22237cfe05e47816dd4dbabb034237b44b.jpg
      http://www.blacklistednews.com/Assad_Says_The_%22Boy_In_The_Ambulance%22_Is_Fake_-_We_Show_Why/54817/0/38/38/Y/M.html
      Same kid and his sister appear to feature in another white helmet photo op. Those kids must be awfully unlucky, they keep needing to be rescued.

  87. It’s too bad we ever allowed women to vote. They are going to screw us in this election. Hillary has higher support from women than she does from blacks. Blacks are another intellectually inferior group who should have never been given the right to vote either.

      1. so its untrue that 10 years after women get the right to vote we experience a depression?
        Its false that a few years after blacks get the vote, the idea of poverty as an inevitability rises and a permanent welfare state expounds?

        1. to be completely fair, the fall of the black man in america probably has less to do with their general intelligence than it has to do with how they were handled after the civil war. where in essentially idiots that knew nothing were granted freedom with no real way of improving life.
          that said….150 years later and it is questionable about the average black mans intelligence….black neighborhoods are almost always shitholes in compared to whites.
          but what puzzles me is that there are some rather intelligence black folks around.

        2. everything exists on a spectrum. The most intelligent man in the world very well might be a black guy or a sub-saharan African, but it is less likely than a white or a China-man being the most intelligent.
          Actually, blacks were doing ok after the civil war. They had a strong family dynamic and they all lived near each other, which is representative of social capital. (The society was not as technologically advanced as it is now, therefore, less intelligence was required to succeed.)
          Earlier in the 20th century, even intelligent blacks lived near less intelligent blacks. Once the welfare state started glorifying single motherhood, which destroyed the family, the more intelligent blacks, i.e. those who favored the traditional family, moved to the suburbs with the whites. Then the inner cities where blacks seemed to concentrate degenerated.
          Also, advancements in technology (and its function in the work place) outpaced the advancement in black intelligence in the late 20th century. This makes me think that the situation in the black community is just going to get worse and worse, unless technology becomes more simple to use in high-paying jobs.

        4. my point with that statement was that the reconstruction if you can even call it that was a failure and one of the reasons was they freed millions or however many it actually was, folks who couldnt read write or do much of anything beyond slave work and expected them to function in a free society. it’s how the KKK comes into existence and jim crow laws and the like. white society down there(and even some of the educated wealthy blacks who the southern man down there didnt consider a nigger) didnt quite know what to do with so many illiterates who knew nothing quite literally.
          sure they might have been better off as you say because of lower technology(fair point i admit, never considered that before). but my thesis was that you cannot take a bunch of slaves and grant them freedom and expect them to roam amongst educated folks just fine with no problems.
          this problem has largely carried on as the black man has largely failed to overcome his original american slave state. though as stated it baffles me because you do have a few very intelligence black folks roaming around.
          you are right though, there is a very clear difference between the races, and blacks for whatever reason or another tend to have gotten the short end of the stick.
          granted i will give you, it was probably better back then as newly freed illiterates, than it was when wel fare became a thing which basically doomed damn near every black, and most other middle to lower class americans who would eventually get suckered into it…and now all of america is feeling that burden.

        5. ‘this problem has largely carried on as the black man has largely failed to overcome his original american slave state.’
          Interesting. The persistence of the slave identity may not have ever died out, which is why they still cry about it today.
          I think your thesis and the idea that blacks do better in a society that does not require a knowledge of technology coincide.

        6. I’m not sure what’s puzzling about smart black folk. We are everywhere, and the influence is spreading. You don’t have to believe me, I’m part of the movement.
          If you’re curious, check out Tariq Nasheed and Boyce Watkins. Two independently wealthy leaders of the black independence movement. No friends to the Black Lives Matter movement.
          And poised to be the next thing white people are afraid of.

        7. How does women’s suffrage possibly tie into the Great Depression?
          As for blacks and poverty, you think poverty didn’t exist among rural whites in the deep south? The poorest part of America today is white Appalachia. Poverty’s an inevitability no matter the demographic. The only difference lies in the distribution.

        8. i’ve seen a few smart black folks here and there….and let me clear i mean smart black conservatives. as there is no such thing as a smart liberal as all liberals are stupid by definition of being a liberal.
          you say:
          “You don’t have to believe me, I’m part of the movement.”
          sweet a smart black man on the internet….but then you say:
          “And poised to be the next thing white people are afraid of.”
          and here we go….the race baiting begins. calling out the white man again. black folks just cannot help it. they have to do this don’t they? if you want whites to stop looking down on you then, stop saying crap like that. behave like a civilized white person and shed that stupid slave mentality that infects 99% of blacks these days.
          we whites have given the black man freedom, education, money, and you guys still preach the “And poised to be the next thing white people are afraid of.” mantra

        9. a rare moment on the internet where we came in with different ideas, leave learning something, and agreeing both of our ideas are in sync with one another.
          better check to see if hell as frozen over.

        10. Dude, I like you. You like pissing off the stormcucks, I like pissing off the stormcucks. I’m all for intelligent blacks (and other groups) outbreeding the ghetto dwellers and doing well. But when you say shit like “poised to be the next thing white people are afraid of,” you kind of undermine the whole “brotherhood of man” thing we should be striving for.

        11. I’m race baiting, but you are puzzled by the presence of smart black people.
          I can’t behave like a white person, any more than you can behave like a black person. We have inherent differences in behavior.
          and whites as a collective have given very little to black people. there have been riots and protests in the past, buffered by white people that ended up in progress for blacks, but whites as a whole “giving” freedom to black people? Incorrect.

        12. I understand where you’re coming from, and I agree. I watch you as well, and support your stances.
          BUT, I know what I mean when I say “poised to be the next thing white people are afraid of” on a site like this. If anything, that sentiment rings especially true on a site like this, with the prevailing notion of these mayonnaise-colored inbred monkeys believe that all blacks are subhuman. My statement, the way I talk, the way I navigate their pathways and connections while still remaining unapologetically black, is definitely scary to these individuals.
          Check my history. When I first got on this site, I was definitely striving for “brotherhood of man.” I quickly realized that as much preaching as the whites do on this site, they don’t want that. Don’t get me wrong, this site still has great information on working out, staving off PC culture, the future of men, etc. And the vast majority of that, I agree. But what took me a while to realize, and what you may realize eventually, that when most commenters refer to “men” on this site, they mean “white men.”
          Maybe we’re doing some good by showing these clowns that black people (if you are black, I am assuming) are not a monolith. Even though 2 smart black people can agree on 90% of topics, there is still room for proper discourse between us. Agreeing to disagree.

        13. There is a difference between being poor in a city and being poor in rural areas.
          Poverty in cities means a permanent under class in an expensive environment. Whites might be the largest group who accepts welfare, but you would be hard pressed to find many rural whites accepting welfare because they live off the land.
          Poverty in rural areas just means that self-subsistence is a more viable option. Those folks out in Appalachia have more atv’s, guns, and ammo than I do and I guarantee that I make more than them, but I also live in a city which is many times more expensive than the country.
          Blacks voted in a permanent welfare state, one that was not meant to expire. The idea that poverty was a permanent state was the catalyst that brought about the current welfare state.
          Women vote their vaginas and vaginas dont like uncertainty or foresight so they voted for liberal policies in the years directly after the 1929 crash .

        14. clearly you cannot read.
          i am puzzled at the presence of smart black folks when 99% of the ones i’ve seen are fucking dumbasses beyond redemption. when i look at white neighborhoods and black neighborhoods, black ones tend to be worse off by large margins. black crime is higher and more violent than whites generally speaking.
          yes we gave you assholes freedom. its called the civil war….which need i remind you of something….had the south not paid for and bought your asses as slaves FROM BLACK SLAVE OWNERS IN AFRICA…..you would not even be here as a free man today. americans have been giving freedom to all kinds of people for many years now and now that america is on the brink of collapse, she looks around for her so called allies and friends whom she bled for, and she finds they have up and abandoned her.
          whites gave you your freedom in a bloody civil war.
          and 150 years later all i hear is black lives matter, give me more welfare, im oppressed, affirmative action, got to hire a certain amount of black folks(never mind the politically correct term is african american even though youve never set foot in africa….or the fact you dont hear chinese folks say african-chinese). go learn from martin luther king, a wise black man….he’d be disgusted at his fellow black americans today. or Thomas Sowell, he calls the black man out on their BS, and wasnt it bill cosby that got booed off a stage for telling a black crowd to stop being worthless fathers?

        15. hmm. to address:
          1. BLM is a very small, but loud segment of the black American population. they don’t have a whole lot of support outside of the black female and LGBT community.
          2. affirmative action has benefited white women more than anyone else in the nation; that includes EBT, college scholarships, Title IX, grants, housing loans, etc)
          3. I have no generational connection to Africa aside from a long-forgotten ancestry and the color of my skin. I’m black, and an American. Not African American.
          4. White folk love to trot out Martin Luther King without knowing what his ultimate plan was. He was starting by empowering black people, with the ultimate goal of empowering poor people, black and white. just as you would say the Democratic party has been given a gift in poor black voters, the Republican party gets the same gift with poor white voters. MLK, and other activists at the time, realized this and tried to puta stop to it before it got out of hand. as long as MLK was just preaching to blacks, he was allowed to live. as soon as he had a message that would transcend race, whites had him killed.

        16. and the only thing I could possibly learn from Thomas Sowell is how to tapdance for the white man’s applause. His first name tells his whole story: Uncle Tom.
          If you want to refer to black Republicans that black Americans would respect, at least mention Justice Thurgood Marshall or Gen. Colin Powell.

        17. you wrote so much and jumped around so often, I had to break my responses up.
          the majority of black Americans are products of the slave trade. Wrong was done on both sides. And?
          And how many allies do you expect to have if white collectively have done a great job at alienating every other group in this nation that isn’t white and male? It’s not that Mexican, blacks, and women of all races are teaming up against you. It’s that you have individually done things to piss off all other groups other than your own. Where you COULD have a solid alliance with men from different races, you’d rather tell male minorities to “act white” while still treating those that acquiesce like “others.”
          Your ancestors made this bed. Now sleep in it.

        18. I’m neither white nor black, but I understand what you’re saying.
          I know that there are a lot of white nationalist types posting on this site lately, a situation which I find ironic considering Roosh is Middle Eastern and not “white.” And it is clear that the WN claim that they don’t hate other groups is absolute horseshit. 100% of white nationalists are united by a hatred of blacks, followed closely by a hatred of Jews (which is why I find it funny that there are Jewish white nationalists). But many of the more prominent posters on this site are both white and against white nationalists, such as Ghost of Jefferson and Lolknee. Painting them all with one brush is no better than what they are doing to you.

        19. no beef on those with whom I’ve had meaningful exchanges, Jefferson and Lolknee included. I’m willing to agree to disagree, and sometimes straight up agree with anyone making a compelling point.
          If anything, I and guys like that are different sides of the same coin – they may not be white nationalists, but they want what’s best for people like them. I’m black, and I want what’s best for people like me. Not once have I supported or defended the behavior that most on this site think is indicative of everyone my color. I don’t support nor defend Black Lives Matter, but I’m also not going to sit here and act like the reasons they’re doing what they’re doing don’t have some basis in reality. Some choose to scream and cry to the media, others choose to be stuck in their ways, and a small but growing majority are learning exactly how to play the game, educate themselves about their own people and how to successfully navigate through or around white people, both good and bad.
          As far as “painting them all with one brush,” you can kiss my whole ass with that “two wrongs don’t make a right” speech if the onus is totally on me to be the bigger person. It’s not in my nature to allow uneducated opinions like those of @The HypnoToad go without a counter-argument. Feel free to admonish him, since our wrongs are equal.

        20. Or, we stop paying the ghetto dwellers to sit on their asses and breed, reform the welfare state so we are not doing this, and encourage the intelligent blacks to have more children and bring up the black mean.

        22. your ancestors made this bed bro. they started slavery. they built the shitholes that now cause mexicans to flee to america. they build the shithole middle east that creates refugees.
          meanwhile in america….we fought a civil war to end slavery. we crafted the gold standard for freedom known as the constitution. we saved your ass from two world wars. and have done more for those shitholes your ancestors came from than you folks have done in years.
          but by all means keep blaming the damn white man as evil. the white man of america has done more for this foresaken planet than any other race in the history of the world. the american white man is perhaps only equalled by the ancient egyptians and some of the romans…..we are the three that built this fucking planet and took it out of the stone age.
          to sit there and say:
          “And how many allies do you expect to have if white collectively have done a great job at alienating every other group in this nation that isn’t white and male?”
          is so out of touch with reality it defies words. alienated? bitch please…..we gave you running water, freedom, electricity, TVs and the damn iphone.
          if any race deserves to get its asses kissed….its the american white man race. hell we gave the damn jews their own country back something they’d failed to do in 2000 years, we did it in under 10.
          spare me this the white man doesnt help other races crap….if it wasnt for the american white man, your ass would be drinking dirty water living under hitlers reign of terror and/or stalins reign of terror.

        23. LOL at calling thomas sowell dumb….he proves my fucking point. a legit intelligent black man and you hate on him.
          get this troll out of here.

        25. First off, you know there’s no such thing as the white race, right?
          Second off, how long did you serve in the military? How many wars have you fought in? How many committees have you been a part of? Stop claiming shit you had no part in creating, clown.
          And before you ask me the same thing, yes im a veteran. Youre welcome for your current freedom.

        26. “and the only thing I could possibly learn from Thomas Sowell is how to tapdance for the white man’s applause. His first name tells his whole story: Uncle Tom.”
          round about way of stating he’s dumb?

        27. oh look you cannot counter facts so you decide to:
          1. lie about the there is no white race….i guess there is no black race either.
          2. attempt to discredit me by asking what is my life’s experience
          3. claim your opinion is instantly better because you are a veteran….a black veteran at that!!!
          you do this because i nailed your sorry ass to wall with fact after fact after fact. and like a good little liberal, when confronted by overwhelming facts your emotions kicked into high gear and you decided to play the “I’m better than you card because of my experience and your lack of experience and to hell with whether this is true or not”
          which is the defacto trump card all liberals play when they are backed into a corner staring facts in the face. go listen to some rush limbaugh and sean hannity and read some Thomas Sowell….you’ll begin to understand liberalism is a failed philosophy. you might think i am being snarky, but im being completely sincere. go enlighten yourself.

        28. How is this a roundabout way of saying he’s dumb?
          In no roundabout way, i am now calling you stupid.

        29. No, no. Im nor countering facts. Im realizing you personally have contributed nothing to society as a whole, but like many others that havent doe anything, you love to claim the victories of anyone you may have commonality with.
          So, i guess you could say “you dindunuffin.”
          Contribute to the society you love and serve your country. You’re really proud of others that have served in the military, how come you never joined? if you don’t have the sack to handle it, hopefully you can help society positively in another way.

        30. translation: “I can’t win with facts so I’ll make up BS and counter with my high horse feel goodz morals and demean him because he obviously isnt as smart as me”
          with a side of: “Unless he has a PHD his opinion is invalid”
          for the record I’ve intentionally avoided admitting whether i am in the military or not because IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER YOU TWAT. would that magically change what i said to true or false? no it wouldnt. only liberals care about such crap. what i stated is true and you cannot and have no countered it because your a liberal and liberals do not nor have they ever given a shit about facts and when backed into a corner every liberal ever resorts to side stepping the argument and insults which is what you’ve done.
          i’ve told you where you can enlighten yourself…go and do it.

        32. You’re very emotional. You’re also continuously inaccurate, because im not a liberal. Most rabid conservatives and liberals are different arguments of the exact same coin, and when their emotions get the better of them, they show their whole hand. You would comment with this much feeling on Jezebel.com if you were a liberal, because you guys are the same. Horseshoe theory, confirmed with you.
          Second off, i sense projection. You mentioned PHD and intelligence, almost back to back. You also all but admitted that no, youve never been in the military, because as rabid a Republican as you seem, that would be a badge of honor on your side. Im assuming youve felt not as smart/accomplished as others plenty of times in your life, because my comment REALLY got under your skin.
          Toughen up, guy. Keep your emotions close to vest.

        34. imagine being this dumb LOL
          you bemoan me for my supposedly fascination with intelligence and a PHD yet you cannot get over my military status as if that means anything.
          you have a military fetish?
          just fuck off at this point….you’re a worthless troll that cannot make a good argument and cannot admit when they are wrong.

        35. well, you’re the rabid republican. the way you people normally talk, I’d imagine your military fetish involves you cranking one out to General Patton every night before you sleep.

  89. It’s really stupid that Hillary tries to use her husband to back up her argument and then needles Trump receiving a loan from his father

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