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6 Warning Signs A Girl Isn’t Worth A Relationship

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This article was originally published on Roosh V.

In the past I’ve shared warning signs when a girl will “disappoint” you in some way. I’ve discovered some other more serious infractions based on the way she interacts with you.

In the movie A Bronx’s Tale, a mafia don teaches a young man that after a girl gets in his car, she should lean over and unlock his door to be considered a keeper. Here’s the scene:

While my warning signs aren’t tests, they say a lot about the worthiness of a girl for long-term relationships. If a girl does any of these, dump her.

1. Changing your music without first asking for permission.

The first thing I do when get a girl over to my shack is put on some music. Depending on the mood I’m trying to set, I’ll go with something like The Weeknd, Vanessa da Mata, or Michael Jackson. As I’m making drinks, if she goes to the laptop, cuts off my music, then pulls up her own music on YouTube, she’s only getting fucked that night and never again. Even though she wants to play “this one song,” I cut her crap off and put mine back on. I say, “If you wanted to listen to your music you should’ve invited me to your place.”

2. Giving you unsolicited advice.

I don’t care if I have the most obvious problem in the world that can be solved with baking soda, but if I don’t ask you for help or at least show I’m open to receiving help, then shut your mouth. You’re not my mom and you’re not someone who has more life experience than me, so spare me your harebrained ideas for solving a man’s real problems.

3. Saying “you should.”

There is absolutely no reason for a girl to ever tell a man “you should…” It insinuates that not only are you currently doing something wrong, but that she knows more than you, which is extremely unlikely. She is free to say, “Have you thought of…” or “What do you think about…” but the moment she brings out the word “should,” a synonym of “must,” I know she’s an arrogant harp who thinks she knows more than she really does. The only things I should or must do are pay my taxes and die.

4. Not apologizing when she texts or takes a call in your presence.

If I’m on a first or second date with a girl, and she starts reading texts, sending texts, or actually taking a call without excusing herself first, she will never see me again. Even the most conceited attention whores will let off an “Excuse me I have to take this real quick.” Otherwise she doesn’t deserve another meeting with you, even if she puts out and turns out to be okay in bed. You let a girl disrespect you like this and you might as well hand her your balls.

5. Asking you to postpone your orgasm so she can gain more pleasure.

If you’re about to bust your nut and a girl does tells you “No” or “Wait,” she’s an inconsiderate slut who is now causing you direct harm. A man’s nut is sacred, and for her to impede that should be criminal. I’m serious. One time a girl postponed my nut and then I lost it completely. I couldn’t get it back and I was left with minor groin pain. I never contacted her again.

6. Not urging you to continue pumping even if it’s starting to cause her discomfort.

I’ll tell you what love is: when a girl begs you to keep going even though you know she already came, even though she’s drying up, and even though you know it’s causing her pain. If she tells you to stop the millisecond after she gets her nut, without you getting yours, I want you to tell her that the point of having sex with women is so a man doesn’t have to use his hand, and that she has performed below the hand. That’s why we do all this shit to bang women—to get our nut. If she can’t do that for us, then she’s useless as a living being.

Let go of girls who show arrogance, disrespect, or selfishness. Depending on the severity of her offense she may still be worth one fuck, but other than that you’re a fool if continue seeing girls who display these anti-feminine traits. The sad truth is that most of this list was developed when I lived in Scandinavia, where my hand was much more enjoyable than most of the girls I ended up in bed with.

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295 thoughts on “6 Warning Signs A Girl Isn’t Worth A Relationship”

  1. 5. Asking you to postpone your orgasm so she can gain more pleasure.
    A man who can not control his ejaculation is an immature person, both physically and mentally. In order to achieve a full tension relaxation (for both the man and the woman) the intercourse should last at least half an hour.
    even though she’s drying up
    The dick should penetrate only when the vagina has become thoroughly moist.
    That’s why we do all this shit to bang women—to get our nut.
    Not all of us. Speak for yourself.
    ———-
    Mr Valizadeh, you might be good at getting women in the sack but something tells me you are not well trained in the art of love making.

    2. If you’re good in bed, the women want you even more. It’s about both parties enjoying and participating in sex. A quick and non-passionate orgasm can also be achieved with a hooker, so why get women attracted to you in the first place?

      1. Being ‘good in bed for a woman’, means: doing what she wants.
        However, fucking a woman until she has had half a dozen orgasms in 45 minutes is quite satisfying.

        2. Satisfying because you know shes going to brag (advertise) to her girlfriends about your efficiency? Women dont give out enough free orgasms to appreciate receiving them. Getting her off is a service 99% of them dont deserve. Its only for the word of mouth to me.

      2. Exactly. A woman going through the throes of orgasms keeps me harder than steel, and the dance continues. How in any world is this a bad thing? Why wouldn’t I want to learn to make her cum on demand?
        Never got that part of the PUA sphere. Great, you nutted in ten seconds, with a really hot chick, who will now never speak to you again. Great job skippy. The smart man learns to make the truly deserving hot ones beg for you to return.

        2. Totally agree. Besides, investing all that game and effort into getting some hot chick in bed, only to be finished in half a minute and thus leave her with a bad taste in her mouth (no pun intended), is a really bad return on investment. Now that you have your foot firmly in the door, might as well make her your personal slut who will service you on demand. And if you get to the point where you don’t even have to demand it, but she’s the one who can’t keep her hands off you, then you’re a real boss. That’s how you maximize your time investment..haha
          Being great in bed does not mean bending over to please her. It means you get her totally hooked on you so she keeps coming back wanting to please you with minimum investment on your part. Thus, you benefit the most. And for those in an LTR, especially if married, the quality of the sex you have is the single most important barometer of how solid the relationship is.

        3. There is nothing I can say to make your post more awesome. Exactly correct, that’s precisely what I mean.

        4. How many times, in days of yorn, Mr GoJ, has a young feeless harlot lamented softly in my ear in a loud club about some Roosh-looking dude who depantied her in no time, as well as nutting on the way to her goody hole (or gave it up in a few strokes or lost his wood, etc.), most unsatisfactorily.
          Whereupon I’d posit her being impaled repeatedly and at length upon my unscabbar’d meat rapier until she “died the little death” several times, whilst paradoxically, never lived so large.
          Standing and Deliverance tend to be quite redeeming.

        5. Truth, friend.
          Now let’s recall, the author frequently states frankly that he gets fucked up when something real goes down with a flooz, so I think he’s almost consciously self-sabotaging.
          When do they install the 1000 upvote button for comments like yours?

        1. Sometimes my man, sometimes.
          On the other hand, sometimes it’s like they’re having a fucking conniption. They get a frog in their throat, they make outlandish noises, have seizures and get weepy… I half expect their eyes to roll and their heads to spin…

    3. ‘A man who can not control his ejaculation is an immature person, both physically and mentally.’
      Perhaps…I’d take it even further…a man who can’t control his emotions, his appetites, or his desires. These are more important things to consider.

      1. sometimes it is okay to get pissed. I used to think being unemotional meant you were stronger but now I think there are times, you need to be emotional or get angry at certain people who seem to want to do you harm. It is better to show them that you are pissed and won’t take their shit.

        1. Controlled emotions doesn’t mean you are devoid of them. You get angry when the time is right instead of everytime or anytime.

        2. agree..you don’t want to go “psycho” at every little thing but only when necessary

        3. No need to ever go psycho (except in a life-threatening suprise attack by many professional foes, it becomes mandatory, opponents must lose body appendages and be degraded but I digress).
          Just get super-calm and speak low,slow and hard with intense thousand yard stare. Very effective.

      3. Now we’re getting nice and deep. Well done. Prepare to dive gentlemen! Prepare to dive!

    4. “A man who can not control his ejaculation is an immature person,”
      I would say no, it doesnt matter. That thing boils down to talent, like how much you can potentially bench. It’s a physical thing that you can only marginally improve over time. Weather its wrong or not for a girl to ask you to postpone, I can’t figure and I never thought about it until today.

      2. Marginally improve? No. Proper breathing and focus and you can go stay rock hard until you want to nut, not when you are ready to nut. There is a big difference to be able to achieve orgasm and to control your orgasm, which is very possible.

    5. Fuck that shit. I cum when I cum. It has nothing to do with maturity. If I lifted that day or I haven’t had sex in a while, it’s liable to be short. If I had sex the night before and have a beer and a bowl in me, shit’s gonna last all night. The lady can deal with it.

      1. Exactly. Fuck if I care whether it was “good enough” for her or not. She probably has 5-6 other schmucks at the ready anyway she can summon, and probably will even if I do fuck her well!

    7. Can’t remember what comedian said it but “What’s all this BS about premature ejaculation? If I’m ejaculating, it’s right on time!”

    8. For me it is a real ego/power trip to see how many orgasms I can give a woman. Laying there in post coital bliss it’s fun to ask her “So are you satisfied, more than satisfied or extremely satisfied?” Fuck her right and she will crawl over broken glass to worship you and your cock.

      1. Where are you finding these desperate women? Are they so starved that they would let a man treat them like shit for some good sex? I relish passionate lovemaking but only when I feel respected and cared for by the man as well. I don’t know. Maybe I’m weird.

  2. “I don’t care if I have the most obvious problem in the world that can be solved with baking soda” —- that is hypocritical. Here we are giving advice to make women behave “correctly”. We want them to act feminine, yet if we are doing something wrong we do not want it pointed out. That sounds more arrogant than “red pill” or alpha. If you cannot handle good advice that is sound and logical that means you have an extremely large ego.

    1. How does the idea of women needing the guidance of a men and not the other way around sound to you? Too extravagant?

      1. How about a girl knowing something you don’t? Or do you only date stupid chicks?

    2. I thought it was funny, not hypocritical.
      Baking Soda is a panacea for many, many problems.

      1. Wanna sober up fast for that drive home? Drink a tall glass of water with a heaping spoon of baking soda stirred in. It also helps neutralize the smell of alcohol on your breath. Drive safely.

    3. I agree…if you have a stain on your shirt and she jumps to helping you clean it and while doing so explains how she is doing it…..I say that is pretty good.

      1. No, no, my child.
        If you have a stain on your shirt, it is far better when she tears it off and says “I’ll get that later” right before sucking and fucking you senseless.
        Then, whilst your are in a ballsack-drained stupor, she gets the stain out and expertly cooks you a nice rare steak meal by the time you finish rinsing your dick in her sink.

    4. Advice about how that stain on your shirt can be removed or that when she cooks she grates some parmesan over the pasta, that’s good advice and shows her interest in feminine, homely activities.
      “You should wear something like this…blah blah blah”, “You should buy a better car” and all that general nagging that make her sound like a bitter mother in law is a bit cunty.

      1. “You should wear something like this…blah blah blah”
        Well, like a lot of other men I’m colorblind, so this can actually be helpful to a certain extent.

        1. We’re talking about dating here, not married chumps who live by their wife’s word,and I’m not referring to you.
          Whilst on a date she needs to present herself.

      2. What you are describing is not advice. As you said, it is “general nagging,” and that type of behavior is completely unacceptable…from either gender.
        I do agree with @davidfunship:disqus on the thought that “I don’t care if I have the most obvious problem in the world that can be solved with baking soda” is immature and not red pill. As a matter of fact, it may be the least red pill thing I have ever seen Roosh write.

        1. It’s only a date and neither should nag. Chances are pretty high that she’ll do it when relationship gets more serious.

        2. I have had to learn to shut my mouth and keep my opinion to myself if I want to keep a job. I am an arrogant know-it-all and it drives people crazy. For the sake of peace I have had to learn that my opinion is usually offensive and should be kept to myself until someone truly wants to know it and I can share it without getting fired. She should save her naggy opinions for when there us a real relationship, call it girl game.

        3. And that’s why men should not get married so she csn never show those true colors of hers. Marriage should have a nagging clause that makes it null and void.

      3. Or the classic “you should make more money/ you got some free-time on Fridays, why don’t you put in extra hours” etc. – my ex tried to pull this stunt on me, nagging me into paid overtime the minute we moved in together. The next would probably have been to spend my extra cash on her/ her apartment.
        Ah, those blue pill days… now it seems like a different life, ages ago when in fact it’s just been a little over a year that I took the red pill.
        I dumped the ex by flying to Spain to hook up with a virgin that had just turned 19 and we’ve been together since then and it’s honestly the best relationship I’ve ever had.
        Seriously, if you buy your cars new, do the same with your girlfriends, brand-new, factory-sealed is the way to go.
        Of course I drive an Alfa Romeo, so no girl could ever come close in terms of beauty anyway 😀

        1. Some women know their “priorities” well too well. It’s when they start nesting they show their true face,but I bet the cunt was somewhat horrible before. Set the standards from the beginnig.
          As for cars, I never buy em new, unless I’ve got money to burn. After I year the value goes down by a 1/4.

        2. The market for automobiles is totally saturated in Europe, the discounts for new cars are crazy high, you get 20% off without even negotiating.
          As far as the ex goes, the most interesting thing about her was that even though she had two older brothers, they hadn’t been watching her back. They were pretty red-pill, judging from hind-sight, but they let her be a slut during her teenage years and she never truly recovered from that.

        3. The family’s spoilt child! She might have been protected/under the wing of her brothers, but not prevented from damnation, me thinks.

        4. Spoilt and jaded. The ones with older brothers are the worst, especially when the age difference is just a year or two. Those girls – like the ex – never had to work or make any effort to get guys. They just tagged along in the social circles of their older brothers and everybody was drooling over the younger sister.

        5. Absolutely right. With cars, a new one is more costly but with women, an old beater woman that’s been joy ridden and who’s cab has been used as a fart cushion for who knows how many wreckless operators is no more trouble to game than a pure (new) virgin woman. It mainly depends on where you set your sights. With cars, you can kiss the carpet on the floor of a showroom piece because you know she’s CLEAN but with a used ‘buy here pay here’ car, you worry about sticking your hand in the seat crack for fear of being bitten by something. Only BRAND SPANKING NEW will do amen.

        8. I have two older brothers and this was never true for me. Maybe it is because my brothers are 7 and 12 years older.

        9. Sounds reasonable. My own sister is 6 years younger than me and our social circles never overlapped. Might be unscientific to infer from just my experiences with my ex, she might just have been a regular bitch no matter the familial circumstances.

      4. I dunno. The last few LTR’s (i.e. longer than 3 weeks) I chose had style and were feminine. So I would specifically ask them for opinions on certain items of clothing, or hair styles.
        It’s good to get female input sometimes to assess whether your style works or not. Men aren’t born with an inherent sense of style, it has to be learned/acquired (unless they’re gay). Some of my friends back in high school would dress like clowns because someone on TV dressed like that.
        First chick I dated was a model and she would tell me shit like, “Fuck belts, they’re gay.” And she was right. “Shave your balls, I don’t like sweaty pubes in my mouth.” And she was right.
        Humility is a good quality. Just choose who you take advice from very carefully.

    5. Look, if she has advice on how to get something clean…. let her fucking clean it. Advice is great when warranted, when not- it is a pain in the ass to listen to. If she gets off her ass after offering advice and cleans the item or items in question, then she has possibilities.

      1. That’s it isn’t it. We’re saturated with know it alls who have learned everything from the internet but when you ask them to apply/demonstrate their knowledge, then all of a sudden, the excuses come out.

    6. I had a girl once who thought she could patronize me in regards to electronics. Not just should do this and what could be wrong (it’s my laptop, I know it inside out) but going so far as to say she could do it, as if the tower I built from scrap parts and my work in programming was nothing compared to that one time she replaced a DVD drive.
      That’s just the most recent one who was shown the door. She was even better in bed than most girls. Lost all interest after that.

    7. Women don’t give advice. And all objective evidence shows doing what women tell you to do, will not get you women. Women aren’t like men, tehy never tell you what they really want, because women are morons. Women don’t tell you, I want you to sweep me off my feet like I read in the dumb romance porno. But guess what, all women want it.
      Women’s advise is not useless, its actually worse, it is harmful because it will not help you and drive girls away.

  3. What you just outlined describes the behavior of 99% of women out there today.
    I’ve got a good indicator if a woman isn’t worth a relationship: If she is in any way westernized.

  4. 1. Changing your music without first asking for permission.
    What if you are listening to some good old heavy metal in her company and she switches it to some Barry White to get in a mood.??
    2. Giving you unsolicited advice.
    Sometimes someone who cares about you must pinpoint to the things that you are not able to see or not eager to see. Like if you hold an eternal grudge with a family member and she gives you advice.
    3. Saying “you should.”
    What if you are a pice of shit with your parents, and she tells you ” you shouldnt talk to your dad that way” why would this be wrong.?
    4. Not apologizing when she texts or takes a call in your presence.
    AGREED.
    5. Asking you to postpone your orgasm so she can gain more pleasure.
    WRONG!!! In order for you to be a true man you need to control your orgasms. Take into account Ali Khan or Porfirio Rubirosa, those guys lasted hours in bed.
    6. Not urging you to continue pumping even if it’s starting to cause her discomfort.
    MAN WTF!
    I like most of your articles but this is just plain LAME

    1. Wait, you say in order to be a true man, I need to control my orgasms? Did not we agree that not raping and not beating them was enough to be a true man? It seems like this “true man” status keeps getting stuff added to it in order to achieve it. Could we have a basic list or something and stick to it?

    3. 5. orgasm control is one of the hardest things a man can do, naturally they’re scared
      6. it makes them feel manly, knowing they’re the only party to benefit. No wonder they need to keep moving on.

  5. Basically it can all be summarized as this.
    She only looks at her needs and never considers anyone elses. Really any human like that doesn’t get how the world works.

  6. What a load of sociopathic garbage. I cringed as I read this article.
    There are some great articles on this site, mostly around self improvement, but this just reeks of hate and (ironically) insecurity.
    “she sent a text and didn’t apologize to me first, this is unacceptable. I can’t handle that. Dump her.”
    “she must continue to let me fuck her, even if it hurts her.”
    ….how incredibly ‘alpha'(!).

    1. Right?! Did you read delicioustacos.com blog? It has some pretty awesome stuff in it too.

    2. No offence, but your opinion reminds of of a person who sees women are unaccountable and worthy of being on a pedestal.
      They’re accountable for their behaviour. Much of the behaviour he describes is selfish and rude, and should never be tolerated from man or woman.
      Roosh’s ideas about sex revolve around the male orgasm. Without the male orgasm, there is no new life. Nature made it important.(paraphrasing of Roosh’s words.)

      1. without proper behavior and accountability, a man cannot raise that new life or progress in life. If a man cannot handle criticism then he is just an arrogant prick. The wealthiest people in the world have followed some other person’s advice or done things differently or changed directions. We were not born with knowing it all.

      2. “No offence, but your opinion reminds of of a person who sees women are unaccountable and worthy of being on a pedestal.”
        – No offence taken. What exactly was it that I said in my post that you read as me seeing women as being unaccountable and putting them on a pedestal?

        1. He means texting/ answering call without excusing oneself. I think that’s just common courtesy. If a person doesn’t do this they probably have no manners, home training or respect for you. Man or Woman.

        2. I agree, in most cases it could be seen as a little rude. Each case is different though.
          To declare someone ‘un-dateable’ because of it happening once or twice, in the big scheme of things however is ridiculous.

        3. It is a little overzealous if you split from one instance but, It’d be prudent to address it at some point.

      1. Just because someone disagrees with an article doesn’t make them a troll.
        If you cannot handle debate, and would prefer an environment where everyone just unconditionally agrees with everyone else, may I suggest joining a religion. Christianity may suit you well.

        2. “If you cannot handle debate, and would prefer an environment where everyone just unconditionally agrees with everyone else, may I suggest joining a religion. Christianity may suit you well.”
          Even Orthodox Christians only agree on doctrine and worship. We very well might end up on vehemently opposing sides due to differences in how we think the Gospel should be applied to society. We’re not quite the secularist mind control cult that you (whatever, you are) think we are.
          http://www.glennbeck.com/2015/03/17/dont-believe-in-global-warming-al-gore-thinks-you-need-to-be-punished/

        3. Here is a perfect example. Orthodox Christian here has a good heart which is in the right place. I happen to be an Orthodox Christian myself, not a very good one I must admit. I disagree with him constantly over certain matters both spiritual AND secular. Quite often I just want to grab him by the shoulders and shake the shit out of him while shouting “What the hell is wrong with you man!” Like the Glenn Beck link (WTF). Other times he makes a comment where I say to myself “He just may be further down the spiritual road than myself. Perhaps I should ponder his words.” Unconditional Agreement never enters into the equation.

        5. I happen to be Christian, and I’ll educate you a little: There are many different sects of Christianity, because they don’t agree on how to interpret a single book.

    4. The reason these are red flags is because they are indicators of selfishness and stubbornness which make relationships hell. The singular event might not be that big of a deal but it will be later. Women shit test men and reject them for the slightest misstep because she has enough experience to know how things will play out.
      If anything the article is paranoid, not sociopathic.

      1. There is no such thing as paranoia in today’s society. They ARE out to get us.

        1. The saying goes like this:
          “Just because you’re paranoid, does not mean they’re really not out to get you.”

      1. Yup, a man with a back bone is an asshole. Even Betas and Omegas can be that huh?

        1. I don’t think that not caring about the pleasure of a sexual partner is “having a backbone”. I don’t like Beta or Omega men but I also do not like men who think they are powerful just because they are pricks.

        2. I can relate, I have a similar contempt for women who think being a bitch is a desirable trait. Unless the sex was completely free, why should I care about womens sexual pleasure? If I have to pay by either listening to her bullshit, feeding her, spend gas to get her, etc. Then I only care about my pleasure. I dont pay to get other people off. Just like they dont volunteer to get me off.

        3. You’d be surprised how many women get away with being bitches just because they are gorgeous. It’s sad to see betas chase after these types.

  7. This is kind of a random comment unrelated to the article, but I just wanted to thank everyone on this site from the bottom of my heart. A few months ago I was an anti-social and overweight loser with almost no self confidence. But a chance discovery of rooshv and ROK really helped me make a lot of great changes.
    I haven’t been in this kind of shape since high school, I’m actually capable of approaching women now, I got a phone number the other day, and everyone can smell the confidence on me now. That said, I am still not happy with where I am now. I want to keep improving. I might not agree with every single author on this site, but I’ve never seen a single better website for men self-improvement. Thanks Red-Pillers.

    1. Replies like this are more satisfying than half a hundred takedowns of arrogant women who troll the site.

      1. Begrudgingly, I’ll agree. Begrudgingly. It is damn good to be around intelligent men embracing masculinity!!

      2. I don’t troll this site to be arrogant, I agree with a lot that’s said. It would do a lot of women good to step outside their world and realise that 50% of the population’s viewpoint is almost never considered or even acknowledged. I sincerely apologize if I’ve offended you. In any event, I’ve nowhere else to go, the left side of the internet won’t have me. It’s true though, I have invaded your space, but I can’t say I’ve haven’t thoroughly enjoyed the discourse.
        Best.

        1. Agreed. But I do troll newspapers occasionally whenever they push out their bullshit (especially if they state they are NOT monitoring comments). It’s my way of giving back.

        2. “….whenever they push out their bullshit…” This to me implies you’ve experienced a popular media outlet NOT pushing out bullshit. Where is this magical kingdom? Don’t think I’ve ever had a comment not taken down from a newspaper 😀

        3. Haha, true. The trick to NOT getting a comment pulled down automatically (when they say they’re not moderating comments for this article) is to not use certain “trigger” words e.g. retarded, black, Jew, pussy etc.

        4. Not true. The following comment of mine was deleted:
          Manspreading sounds like a horribly uncomfortable medical screening procedure all men should have after the age of 40. “Early detection is key, talk to your husband about the importance of manspreading.”
          Apparently, having a sense of humour is enough to have you declared an enemy of the state these days,

        5. Oh yeah, that happens. There’s definitely femnazi’s in the editing room.
          I just now tried to post a comment 3 times ripping to shreads the glaring logic failure in response to some bitch saying: “Everyone’s beautiful. Beauty comes from the inside. Inner beauty comes from self confidence and kindness.” But that’s just Daily Mail for you.
          But I’ve successfully destroyed 3 pro-feminist articles just this week. They started at the top of the page and within 1 hour were delegated to the bottom of the page… and 3 hours later they completely vanished. Yeah, I’ve been home, sick, all week, nothing better to do.

        6. I was also deleted for pointing out that all of those adorable t-shirts with “progressive” feminist statements printed on them are made in sweatshops in places like Bangladesh. Yeah, you go girl, congratulations on acquiring a new shiny social conscience. I’m actually fairly socially liberal, very fiscally conservative, but socially liberal, probably a lot more than most on this site. Personally, I think people should be, for the most part, free to live their lives as they choose. But rights aren’t actually recommendations. Just because I have the right to become a promiscuous, obese, chain smoker, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. Live your life as you see fit, but accept the consequences of your choices and don’t stamp your feet when the world doesn’t bow down to you. You can’t bully someone into liking you or finding you attractive.
          The problem is the left are completely totalitarian in their views. They pretend to be libertarian and progressive, but will not even entertain an opposing opinion. A lot of the articles on this site amount to great advice for everyone. Either way, a well articulated argument is worthy of respect, whether or not you agree with it personally. As for your illness, perhaps it’s time to schedule your annual manspreading appointment. I’m concerned for your well being.

        7. Please elaborate on the actual methodologies involved in these manspreading procedures, is it supposed to be beneficial to the testicles and/or prostate?

        8. Isn’t it more fun to guess the methodologies used? I’ll give you hint: it’s very important you stay relaxed.

        9. “Everyone’s beautiful. Beauty comes from the inside. Inner beauty comes from self confidence and kindness.” Ridiculous. Everyone is not beautiful, everyone is not a great athlete, everyone is not a genius. If I were any of these three I’d have cashed in a long time ago! The good news is, there’s lots of things the rest of us can do to mitigate not winning the genetic lottery, but this “everybody gets a participation ribbon, no one gets a trophy” crap is setting people up for a hell of a lot of disappointment when they get out in the real world.

        10. Yes… but you slightly missed the irony. They said everyone is beautiful inside; then went on to list two requirements for inner beauty: self confidence and kindness.

        11. I didn’t miss the irony, everyone’s confident and kind? I hate these impossible beauty standards! Everybody knows when your kindness is photoshopped. That shit ain’t real, she’s had obvious work done on her conscience, it’s so perky.

      3. I dunno. 50 take-downs vs 1 sincere thankyou… I’ll take the 50 take-downs… but only just.

      4. You think women who troll this site give a flying fuck about your “takedowns”?

    2. Well done that man! Look forward to seeing an article of your experiences in a few months! Never stop learning.

      1. Wow, thanks for all the encouragement guys. I might not have my shit together now, but I actually look forward to seeing where I’ll be in the future now.

    9. Good to hear. The journey of self-improvement only ends when you.
      “That said, I am still not happy with where I am now.”
      In my opinion, that’s not a healthy way of thinking. People who have lost too much weight or became over-muscular have had that mindset. As long as you’re improving yourself, be happy and content with what you have every step of the way before moving forward.

      1. I think he’s saying that he doesn’t want to become content and complacent and stop improving. There would be nothing better to strive for.
        Be proud with what you have achieved but always find a role model you can look up to and become.

    11. Your comment was very refreshing bro. Congratulations, welcome to the red pill community, and keep improving yourself. Never give up!
      And now, another useful advice, bro, try to direct as many men to this site as possible, because the world needs more alpha men, not betas. I proudly declare that I have successfully directed 12 men to return of kings, within 17 months, and those men have never looked back. Good luck to you!

    13. Men suffer greatly due to lack of mentors. When coupled with incessant SJW propaganda that’s saturating every pore and niche of our society, you see why there are young feeble men who have just given up. We need to be guides and teachers to the younger men and help them avoid our mistakes. That’s what motivates me to write for RoK and RXN.

    14. Welcome to the club, good choice, pick yourself up and stop sulking, read some articles to get some knowledge, lift something heavy to build mass and testosterone and stop sulking. Don’t show any weakness and we know you have quite a few weak points because you’ve just shown us, because you won’t attract any good people in your like, etc……………………

    16. Keep on improving. Keep on looking after yourself, and keep on working on your confidence. Also, don’t think every woman is shit and not worth it. There’s a lot of good info on this site, and learn from it, but don’t let a lot of the negativity get you down. Never be happy with yourself – keep on pushing – you can always reach greater heights.

    17. Glad you found your confidence. Don’t fall for the first one and ruin your life.
      – MGTOW. Marriage is for suckers.

    19. I am not in great shape. But lean, healthy for a 51 year old. Walk a couple of miles a day with my dog. Garden. No need to approach women, married.
      But this blog has an effect on me too. About the only time I get down and do a few push-ups is after reading an article here. And more importantly,
      this site is a great cultural resource. After 25 years away from France, I did not know of any right wing or redpill French websites. No contact with contemporary France other than mainstream boring crap that did not interest me.
      This site has many interesting international readers and I have been discovering lots of interesting sources such as books/websites/podcasts thanks to tips from French readers here.
      Until recently, I had come to see French as culturally useless for reading anything that was less than 150 years old.
      I am actually happy again that I spent 10 years studying French and studying in a French university. My 20’s were not wasted. Not only my muscle tone, but I am improving my language skills
      This site is a great forum for masculine self-betterment.

    22. Hell yes bro. People forget that the basis of this site is self improvement, this site takes a very holistic approach to life and how to improve it. Good for you

    23. Awesome news bro!!! Rooshv is great for your mental state as a man. Now head over to good looking loser and work on the physical even more! Everyone who isn’t a moron knows looks matter, and thankfully for most guys, being good looking vs being an ugly fuck is how much bodyfat you’re carrying. I don’t blame women either. Why should I blame a woman for wanting to fuck a hot guy? We wanna fuck a hot woman.

    25. Giving you unsolicited advice.

      There’s a lot of guys on RoK who suffer from this one.

  8. And of course, the ones who always bring up their best friend’s opinion in every conversation you are having: “‘Ashley says I should/we should/ and you should…”
    Of course “Ashley‘s” own life is a train wreck but she loves to give advice to your woman since “Ashley” doesn’t have a man in her life for reasons that are obvious to you.
    Also, dump her if she sees a therapist who is advising her how to handle you.

    1. 100% agree with this. They don’t make their own decisions, it’s the social group (hive mind) which controls their destiny.

  9. 7. The girl doesn’t reach over to unlock your door after you let her into the car first. Oldie but goodie.

      1. If your car is really old and you park with the driver’s side to the curb, you let her in on the driver’s side and she is expected to slide over to let you in.

        1. Yeah, this doesn’t work in the UK since you drive on the left. When you drive on the right, the passenger’s side is next to the curb.
          Edit – lolz I think I got this one wrong. Driving in England is something I should never do lol.

        2. Your driver’s side is on the opposite side as well. It is no different from here. I didn’t say right or left for a reason.
          However, on one way streets and in certain off street parking situations you might park on either side.
          Edit per edit: Ah. I see you’re not actually a habitant of a backward island nation. Don’t worry about it. What’s almost as weird as driving there, is driving one of their cars on a continent.

      2. Yeah, good point. I had gf’s who would do it anyway when my car had automatic locks, but that was like 10 years ago when all cars didn’t have them.
        But you could still open her door first, or hold open doors entering buildings etc, and see if she thanks you or not.

        1. I hold doors for everyone. If I hold the door and someone walks in without even looking at me or saying thank you, like I’m a doorman or their fucking bitch, I make sure to say something. Loud. Male or female. I don’t let that shit ride.

        2. I’ve learned that if anyone is more than a few steps away, that door is not being held open for them. Male or female.

        4. This is so true. I still graciously thank my husband for anything he does for me. Maybe that is why he enjoys treating me well; I am not some entitled and selfish bitch.

      3. I think the point is that she does something to accommodate you after you’ve been a gentleman. If she sits like a princess expecting more good treatment and leaves you flapping in the wind, to hell with her.
        Plus, why aren’t you driving V8 pre 1990’s muscle cars? heh

        1. Ahhhhhhhh memories of my Z28 with the t-tops off, the wind blowing through my full mane and the smell of teenage pussy on my fingers. ~ Oh, heaven. I’m in heaven…~

        2. Muscle cars draw better women, IMHO. Drive an S4 or M3 or AMG benz blah blah you know what type of women take notice. Those types don’t give a flying fuck about my small block Nova, and thats fine by me. They see german sports cars and they see $$$ and that attracts them, they want to meet the man that bought it. Women that like my car see craftsmanship and want to know about the car and the man the built it. A man who is good with his hands and has attention to detail are traits good women pick up on, I think.

        3. Exactly. My daughter adores muscle cars (“old” cars) and couldn’t give a shit about $100,000 computer made “sports” cars. But she sees a ’68 Camero and her attention is captivated.
          A man who is good with his hands and has attention to detail are traits good women pick up on, I think.
          Aye, the key being, the *right* kind of woman.

        4. I remember back in the late ’80’s seeing a ‘Vette with the license plate “Z-Eatr”. Kind of funny, there was a bit of a competition back then. Fuck it, I’d own either one these days.

        5. No stick shifts and bucket seats, just a bench like a 67 Wildcat, for example.
          Screw that door opening business, if the panties are gone from under the skirt by the time we roll, she’s a keeper.

        6. A woman who respects the classics is at least worth a first date. I drove a ’56 Bel Air with a 350 V-8, straight pipes and it attracted every type of female-except the gold digging types. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

        10. That’s a beast! Manual 4 speed does it justice as opposed to the automatic tranny. Whatever you do, don’t sell it; “seller’s remorse” is a very real thing.

    2. She will be too busy checking her Twitter account on her smart-phone to notice anything about you or her surroundings.

  10. #1 – could be generalized to not touching your stuff without asking
    #2/3 – meh, there is a difference between women connection communication and nagging
    #4 – basic manners is important not just with smartphones
    $5 – I could see how your refractory time could play into this.
    #6 – what you can’t reach over and grab some lube?

      1. Maybe she was just trying to find out if:
        1. Your taste in porno genre are similar
        Or:
        2. What kind of porno you like so she can replicate it with you.

  11. I don’t really agree with the expecting a girl to suffer so you can get the nut. If she lets you know that she is in pain tell her you’ll finish quickly and go for it. If its obvious she can’t handle any more fucking then turn her around and finish in her mouth or something…
    Pussies are not invincible, if you’re damaging pussy something aint quite right.

    2. I fucked a few women that could orgasm all night and the pussy was still wet; yet one I used to fuck would dry up after the first orgasm. That sucked because she came so easily, so basically I had to make sure I came pretty quickly during sex or else it was going back to a blowjob. Also, who WANTS to continue fucking a dry pussy? It doesn’t lead to anything good but blood on your sheets and blood on your now chapped cock, it isn’t just painful for the woman. Chapped cock isn’t something you can throw some blistex on either, it will put you out of commission for a minute too.

        1. Isn’t that the lube for fags?
          Edit: I was thinking about astro glide. Grannies can stay moist as a snack cake too, NAGALT (not all grannies are like that)

        2. KY is the water soluable kind, Astro Glide is the industrial strength synthetic lube that takes a week to break down.
          If granny’s “as moist as a snack cake” it’s probably from the yeast infection, get her to the geriatric gyno, stat.
          You’re obviously only a wannabe NAGALT – real NAGALTs know to stay away from obsolete granny poon. Just ditch the false teeth and let her suck you silly.

    3. A woman can squeeze a 7 lb. baby out of her vagina. No amount of pounding from one man could EVER come close to that.

      1. Key word “OUT”.
        Ever see a broad shove anything like a baby back UP her snatch?
        Didn’t think so, stud.

    4. Love means sacrificing for your partner, if she won’t sacrifice her cunt hole for you, she doesnt love you, so you should hate fuck her and bust that pussy up for wasting your time.

    5. ” if you’re damaging pussy something aint quite right.”
      Yes, Brother Kent, something aint quite right, such as:
      She’s nine years old like Aisha, pbuh, and you are al-Mutzstafa Himself, pbuh
      She’s in (peri)menopause
      She put too much mileage on her pussy earlier that day with 3 or 4 other dudes.

  12. If she does “cut and runs” by texting or calling – saying a few hostile and belittling things to demean you (especially to start off your day before going to work and putting you in a foul mood all day!) and then hanging up or not responding to your subsequent texts or caller ID snipering you. This is a sick, demented power posture most girls who have been pumped and dumped a lot do or girls who grew up with no father who don’t know how to treat and respect a man do. She sees your texts and your calls; she’s a woman, her phone is NEVER further than arm’s length, for fuck’s sake. They should never get a second chance after doing this!

    1. Easy way to deal with this is to ignore any calls until your important tasks for the day are done.

  13. or Michael Jackson.
    Dude, I’d change your music just so you could avoid catching Teh Gay. heh
    Your point is valid though. In fact all of them lead back to the assumption that you need lead or guided, or that you’re playing second fiddle to her prima donna performance.
    I do disagree with unsolicited advice. I’ve come to appreciate that I can learn from even the lowliest person. Sometimes somebody walking by and saying “Hey, chief, hit the blue button and not the green one” teaches me something, even if I didn’t ask for help. I thank him/her if it works, make a mental note, and move on.
    Now unsolicited advice in the form of “I heard what you said about women, here, let me educate you, you moron” are rejected with extreme prejudice.
    And if you’re hurting her, for real, eh, that’s not so good either. Clark suggests an oral finish, others mention lube. That seems perfectly cromulant.

    2. Michael Jackson, and I’d be out the door before ever being asked. In all seriousness though, touching anything in someone else’s home without an invitation is very rude. Same goes for texting/calling during a coffee/date/dinner etc… I’m with you on the advice matter, depends on the subject matter and the delivery. Frankly, most dating behaviour these days makes me really, really glad I’m married. I don’t think I have the constitution for the current pick up scene.

    3. Good Post GOJ.
      Will Rogers did once say:
      “Every man I’ve ever met is smarter than me in some way”.
      I believe that to be true in many respects although it’s not absolute.
      That doesn’t mean I listen to bullshit, but if an auto body guy is telling me how to deal with rust on my old truck I listen — despite the fact that I re-built all mechanical parts (engine,suspension, drivetrain, electrical) on it myself,, like several other old cars I’ve owned.
      The auto body man may not know shit about carburetor jetting, cam profiles, or the importance of gear ratios and stall converters, or how to optimize 60 ft times or trap speeds, and he may not even be that smart outside his trade, but I freely admit that I’m not a body man and he knows far more about it than me.
      There are many other examples in life.
      So it pays to listen to people outside of your field of expertise sometimes and not to reject them wholeheartedly just because you think you’re smarter or make more money.

  14. All good points, this is why Roosh best represents all of us red pillers. Women that can’t understand that you come first will always put themselves first, and that’s not a woman you want to deal with.

  17. Might I add that if you’re cooking dinner and she doesn’t lift a finger to help like at least wiping down a counter, it’s one and out.

    1. Bitch be outta my kitchen when I’m cooking. Fucks up my flow. Now and then it’s cute to duel cook, for the most part though I’m a solo cook

  18. How did this article even pass editing? The dude who wrote this article has some major control freak issues. Get grip ego trip! And learn how to write!

        1. Go back to Breitbart or The Hill where you belong. Our brand of humor is a little too cerebral for neocons. Especially someone who does not even know who the author of this article is, you schmuck. It’s almost noon, time for you to turn toward Washington, get down on your knees and begin your prayers and oblations.

        3. Dude, get over YOURself! The fact that the first 2 places you posted at after creating your account were Brietbart and The Hill before you wandered over and started being a Johnny Tyler from Tombstone is what makes me think neocon. Also, only dipshit neocons use terms like knee jerk. I don’t really know a whole lot about sucking dick and being a tool, you’re the expert in that department.

        7. You wont get banned, this website is very very lenient about what you say and open to free speech.

  20. The majority of these items aren’t what I would call real dealbreakers. Are you just looking for a reason to dump her rather than manning up and correcting her behavior?

    1. Sounded like he was teaching her to me. Act right, and youll have my attention. Act like a cunt, and I forget who you are.
      Not like theres finishing schools to teach women how to be better parasites.
      “Before 1914, the education of young girls was exculsively designed to teach them how to win and hold a man.
      Once a young man had been captured in the web patiently woven by a doting mother, instruction in cooking and good housekeeping, in order to retain exclusive rights to the young man’s affections – and to his income.”
      – Genevieve Antoine- Dariaux A Guide to Elegance

  21. Also, girls giving you the “I’m Miss Independent” crap stay away from, they are letting you know right from the get go she has no problem leaving you, probably the same mentality that’s responsible for the high divorce rates. If a man has keen observation skills he can spot some women’s character lacking and mental problems before it’s his problem, some women are like rattlesnakes, the way they carry themselves can be warning signs and is like the rattle snakes rattler, unfortunately not all men hear or see the rattling.

  23. my wife says “you should” all the time
    I just don’t listen

  24. No woman marries for money, they are all clever enough before marrying a millionaire.. to fall in love with him first.

    1. Almost like Taoist philosophy. Quite beautiful. A very insightful haiku. Well Spake Sir! WELL SPAKE!

  25. I eat pussy like a champ. I do the squeeze, the plank and all that shit.
    A woman’s most powerful weapon in a relationship isn’t sex, it’s disapproval.
    Women know that we all have mothers, and we remember how awful we felt that time we let our mother down. So they know we’ll crumble if they can tap into that shame.

  26. “1. Changing your music without first asking for permission.”
    total turnoff. dependent on the mood shes send to the door. im very picky about music and i dont want to listen to some bullshit, this can ruin the entire atmosphere for me.
    “2. Giving you unsolicited advice.”
    well.. depends on the kind of advice. if its some bullshit like the order of my furniture, then yeah. but if, and i know its hard to imagine, but if she actually says something really useful then its fine. i once had a chick seeing my whey and gave me advice where i can buy this for 30% price, her sister worked for the company. rare enough.
    “3. Saying “you should.””
    also depends. for daily shittests its meh. but if you are, as some other user pointed out, still living in your parents basement or similar shit like that, then this has some value. however this is totally true if you have your shit together and then get “you should`s”.
    “4. Not apologizing when she texts or takes a call in your presence.”
    another major turnoff. if i see her with her smartphone more then 3 seconds im away. its okay to look for time or whatever, but actual texting or calling(!!) shows zero respect.
    “5. Asking you to postpone your orgasm so she can gain more pleasure.”
    when im faster then she is and i liked it, ill go for another round. when i try to delay me there is a good risk that i cant come anymore AT ALL, similar to what roosh stated. depends highly on the girl.
    6. “Not urging you to continue pumping even if it’s starting to cause her discomfort.”
    the hell? when she cant behave and this is some sort of punishment this would be at least reasonable, but harming without a proper reason? i disagree with this.

    1. I find it very creepy and sickening that harming a woman for no reason is deemed acceptable by Roosh. Only a disgusting man would get off on hurting a woman who is good to him.

      1. “Only a disgusting man would get off on hurting a woman who is good to him.”
        is she good to him just because they are fucking? besides, i draw satisfaction when i see a woman who has been hurt. its nice to see they get a taste of hardship sometimes too, heh.

        2. where is your context? i didnt write i get off by hurting, i wrote that i enjoy seeing it. and yes, woman can fuck. did you know bananas are yellow? what the fuck is your point?

        3. Well, if you enjoy seeing a woman in pain during sex then clearly you get off on it. Your irrational anger and defensiveness speaks volumes…especially since I am being polite and respectful. Have a good day.

        4. “i draw satisfaction when i see a woman who has been hurt.”
          where the hell do you read here that i enjoy seeing a woman in pain during sex? start reading, stop assuming.
          “Your irrational anger and defensiveness speaks volumes”
          you must be a woman. i dont have those feelings in our our little chat, honey. just because i wrote fuck one or two times, it doesnt mean im angry. but if you are a cunt, i guess everything that isnt nice to you must be angry. but anyway, i wish you a nice day too.

  27. Utter selfishness and bullshit treatment of women is displayed again on this website.
    What a douche attitude to have around a woman, even if you think she’s not worth it.

    1. This website is awesome. Its one of the only websites where men have value. Everywhere else is for women at mens expense. Why are you here?

    1. It is. But some of the behaviour described is really rude. Touching things in other people’s homes without asking, taking calls/texting on a date, for example. Wouldn’t give me a good impression of someone, that’s for sure.

      1. This is true, but these are rude behaviors no matter the gender. 5 is silly to me, because sex is supposed to be mutually enjoyable. 6 is kind of a mixed bag. If she getting sore, then she can at least perform oral. Now, if the man’s orgasm is completely off the table, then there is a problem.

        2. Everyone’s orgasm should be on the table. Not literally though, there just isn’t enough bleach in the world.

  29. Didnt Tom Leykis say something like, If she answers the phone on your date excuse youself and leave? Shes letting you buy her dinner and telling the guy on the phone shell suck his dick later.

    1. That’s petty. I’d be more worried if she looks at the phone and doesn’t answer it… then you know she’s hiding something.

      1. …and even then, do you really want to be bothered by being paranoid?
        You KNOW that she can call up dicks on the side at any time. Walking out half way through the “date” (who goes on “dates” anyway?) is basically giving some other guy a free shag after you already put in some work and aborted. At least follow through and get what you came for otherwise the only person who loses out is you because she’ll still get laid anyway either with you or whoever was on the phone, or even someone else.

        1. Furthermore, looking at this whole walking out over a phone call issue is just as petty as the attention deficit disorder kind of shit that women do.
          And changing music without asking? Slap that bitch on the arse for doing so and tell her that if she does it again you’ll escalate by slapping her twice as hard (and she probably jokingly will change it again and you will follow through and then escalate some more and bang her).
          Really, these are the shittiest of shit tests and the article is basically telling men to fail.

        2. It made sense when Tom said it. I prefer the prostitutes who accept 30 dollar bundles of heroin as payment.

        3. I also listen to Tom’s show and enjoy it very much. He speaks a lot of sense but a bit of rubbish slips out of his mouth sometimes too because of where he’s at.

        5. I dont do heroin. So its $30 pussy for me. Some say Im nasty for that. Atleast its not a five dollar crack head. 😉

  30. An excellent article .
    As all women will do these things, it means no true relationship is possible.

  31. Good luck with the phone thing! Girls today are so glued to their phone, it’s pretty much impossible to find one who won’t regularly check her phone when she’s with you, answer messages or calls, sometimes even during sex….

  32. “I’ll tell you what love is: when a girl begs you to keep going even though you know she already came, even though she’s drying up, and even though you know it’s causing her pain.”
    THIS.

  33. Most of these behaviours simply amount to rudeness, nothing more. I can’t imagine ever touching anything in someone else’s home without an explicit invitation to do so. Same goes for answering your phone during a one on one social engagement. Not unless there are extreme circumstances, such as a relative with a serious health condition. In that case, the situation should be explained ahead of time “I’m sorry but I’m going to have to leave my phone on, my ……is in the hospital and things aren’t looking good.”

  34. Can you not just say orgasm seriously that is a scientific term wow you are a rapey little 12 year old idiot.

    1. Beat it, door ———————–>
      There is no rape culture….stop repeating the nonsense.

  35. Would love to see a breakdown by country . I wonder if any were not from Denmark.

  36. YEAH WOMEN ! BOW DOWN AND KISS OUR FEET !
    What BS ! You want a SLAVE ? Just tell the woman up front and leave when they say ” frack you ” !

  37. I can say that that seen from a Bronx tale stuck with me. And the is one of the criteria that I used when securing my current girl. Make them do things regardless of how small to prove their worth.

  39. Some are relevant! I agree with not telling you to stop after she had an orgasm or not telling you to postpone, but really? Apologising for texting? Are men so anti-phone? Come on, guys, don’t be haters. Take a look at yourselves first and then judge. Sure, don’t give your advice if you weren’t asked, but sometimes someone can be really awkward and may need advice.

    1. Stop shaming men and start calling out the bad behavior by women.
      This very action seems to get a lot traction in the main stream media (the female imperative).
      There is always a shaming of the man, but never call out the woman on her bad behavior.

  41. Great list. Some people will give you grief about having “tests” because the testee doesn’t know they’re being tested. Fuck that. Tests, along with observation, are how we form judgments. Real men judge. Only a dipshit looser subscribes to the “don’t judge other people” line.

  42. Sorry this guy is going to wake up one day @50 years old and be alone.
    nobody to grow old with or be there for him.
    One of this list will happen …….get over it .

    1. I guess he’ll live next to all of those “sexy and the city” single, lonely women (with cats) who thought they could have it all, too, right?
      Truth hurts.

  43. I guess the you should thing may cover it but any chick who.nags about your life on first or second date or hell Even 6 months into A relationship needs to be canned.that’s not to say constructive criticism from a respectable woman is fine but dont let them bash your llife choices if theyre some single mom trying to Become a. RN or some crow who has a degree in philosophy or women’s studies. Know your worth and act like it and you will be treated as such.

  44. So basically you’re asking for common courtesy. Most people (even us wee girls) know that it’s respectful to be polite. Sounds like you’re amongst the self entitled. You dont pick very well.

  47. I seriously doubt you ended up in bed with anyone in Scandinavia. You’re too big an asshole.

    1. Women seem to go for the bigger asshole, today. A truth that no women will ever admit (you’ll never hear it out loud)…but all too true (watch the actions…never listen to a woman’s words).

  48. I wonder if the “writer” and all the sad, sad men commenting below think the same way about their mothers? Should your mother also act like a willing sex-toy – even if she’s in pain? Never say her opinion?
    She is the human being who gave birth to you, loved you and fed you, when you weren’t able to yourself. Don’t forget she’s also a woman.

    2. Don’t like what you’re implying here. Why bring mothers into this? I mean…eww! Amirite?
      Also, if you’re a woman, you should also of your mother when sucking bad boy cock. Think about how disappointed she will be when she finds out. Think also about your father.

    3. Actually my mother was one of the many types these days who caused me to formerly grow up as a “nice boy”, naive to women’s true nature, only to be burned harshly by all the warm & fuzzy bullshit.
      Save the comments for the male feminist weaklings, not us.

  50. This list was kind of on ball, but the first two points were a little disappointing.
    1. Just seems kind of a random thought. O…K…. Even if I didn’t like the music, I’d say something first. That just seem slightly ridiculous that you’d want to end anything simply because of music taste. Picky is just picky.
    2. Depends on how the Advice is given, but again, really? Humans have life experience, especially if she’s dealt with it and you haven’t. Honestly, it sounds more like you’re too prided to take advice from anyone who you deem lesser than you.
    3. This one I could understand. It annoys me, too. So yay, a point.
    4. No phones at the table, period. That’s my rule 🙂
    5. I’ve heard of blue balls, it isn’t fun from what I understand.
    6. Now you just said that causing you pain was a no-no, but now causing her pain is? That’s a double standard, you know… But I do understand that at some points, she might be lying about it because ‘she’s bored’. I myself have let him fuck me even when I wasn’t really in the mood because he was starving for it. It hurt, but not that bad. One time, though, it was hard to walk because something was wrong with me (I guess it was one of the first few times after I lost my virginity, so I guess it’s not a valid point?) and I didn’t ask him to stop, and that almost made me late to something, because I guess the hymen or something didn’t pop completely, and I bled pretty badly… It kind of felt internally bruised. Again, though, since that time it doesn’t ‘hurt’ once it’s in there, but the penetration hurts every time still for me. Just got to be aware that at least some of the times, she’s actually telling the truth. it can hurt, so don’t be insensitive to that fact.
    Honestly, I thought this list would be more geared to other things like:
    Constantly taking selfies (sign of vanity) and Demanding sex / using it as a weapon / denying it on a consistent basis.

  51. I agree with everything here except rules 5 and 6 because they contradict one another!

  52. I really really hate the expression “getting your/her nut”. Seems like a black thing but whatever, it’s stupid.

  53. Hmmm. Not one of the better articles on the site. Who wants to keep fucking a girl if her pussy is sore? That’s abusive — i want no part of that crap. I mean no girls have ever asked me to stop right after she had an orgasm — the whole thing is silly. And please don’t say “get our nut” — that is a low-class black thing and it’s just a loserish expression. That being said, I think this website is great and there is a lot of wisdom here..

    1. Being a girl in a relationship, I can tell you that there’s been many times when I’ve cum first and dried up and continued because I love my man and want him to cum. He usually realizes this and speeds up the process, other times we sort of give up. This doesn’t happen often, we mostly cum almost at the same time.

  54. Since when did being a feminist make someone rude? Points 1 to 4 are just decency (not going to comment on the last 2, what you do in bed is nothing for me to judge, although point 6 is just cruel to the woman imho). I’m a proud feminist, and I would never dream of being rude enough to take a call during dinner or in a similar situation (a friend did this to me recently and I was shocked that someone would think that was cool), I would never consider turning someone’s music off (or touching someone’s laptop or phone without asking first, even if its a friend I’ve known for years), and advice should always come with a ‘If I were in your shoes’ or ‘have you thought about maybe …’
    Ok. Rant over. Just because some women who class themselves as feminists are downright rude you shouldn’t tar us all with the same brush.
    (Or maybe its because I’m English, and our national hobbies include politely queuing and profusely apologising for the slightest misdemeanour’s such as bumping into another person on crowded streets.)

    1. “I’m a proud feminist”
      And those words are great clues to tell me right away what kind of woman I won’t be investing more time and effort into, outside of fun/sex.
      That feminist mentality makes it nearly impossible for a woman to respect a man in a way traditionally has been done, and to appreciate receiving the benefits he can give her in return.
      If you have to indentify with a group (especially a largely toxic, destructive one) you’re already forming yourself into a woman not considered marriage/LTR material.

    2. Because there are multiple waves of feminism. Second-wave feminism is about equality. Third-wave is about supremacy and sluttiness. Fourth-wave is social justice warrior bitching.

  55. Roosh, do you have mommy issues? It seems your strong hatred against women shows that you’ve been hurt by a woman before. POOR WIDDLE BABY! *hugs*

  56. You sound like a 15 year old boy. You get so butt hurt at your premature ejaculation that you can’t come. What a great lover!

  58. Hah. The door test is fantastic. Except I have one of those new fangled vehicles that unlocks when you’re anywhere within 3 feet of the damn thing. Foiled by technology!

  59. I think the door test was a great one, haha. I didn’t particularly like the cynical tone to this article, but the idea itself is an intriguing one.

  60. No. 1 I apply to anyone if anyone is in my property, especially in my car. Unless you’re my brothers, my buddies, or a girl I feel comfortable with, I will mirror Chris Tucker and tell you nobody touches my car radio without my permission. And if I listen to Spanish stuff and you give me the “you’re in Murica speak English y’all!” you will force me to reply with”you want English, ok. Let’s start with two basic English words: fuck you!”.
    #2 I don’t agree if she gives good advice, especially about appearance and hygiene.

  62. Good article. I am so glad I never had to deal with that shit. Sweden must really suck

  63. I cannot relate to these kind of articles because i got married very young. But it’s interesting how much hate this article got in the comments. I would advise all the hysterical females and other emasculated male feminists and suck-ups to visit female magazine websites like Cosmopolitan, Vanity Fair, Elle etc… Take a look at all the degrading and hateful articles aimed towards men. These articles are published on a daily basis and is a trend which is been going on for many years. Yet seldom do you see male trolls spilling their bile in the comment sections.
    – Is it because men are more geared to think using reason and common sense rather than emotion and irrationality and as a result will not sink to that level?
    – Or is it because these “progressive” and “democratic” websites censures all opposing views because they cannot come up with any sensible counter-arguments?
    So my feminist/hysterical/bimbo friends , at least try (and god knows it must be difficult) to use your brain and be fair or intellectually honest before you post a comment.

    1. Or it could be because men don’t want to seen as reading such crap and posting a comment means you took the time to click said article.

    2. Methinks your hysteria (and misogyny) is showing. Who the fuck would have been masochistic enough to marry an angry manboy loser like you? Where did you get your wife? Did one of the prophets in your mormon fuck town give her to you? stupid asshole…..your lack of intellectual honesty is showing…..your lack of real world experience, laughable….yeah, go blow a goat…..

  64. This is a good list. I think that I will use it the next time I am on a date with a guy. If he changes my radio station, gives me unsolicited advice, says “you should” for any reason, tells me to postpone my orgasm, or doesn’t keep going in bed after he’s come so that I can get my pleasure, he’s outta there.

    2. There are different standards for the sexes, and this is right and good, as we are not the same. From the sound of it the man you dismiss may be lucky. Maybe he will even find his way here.

      1. Oh, so you can blow him and let him fuck you up your manboy ass? You manboys, you don’t want women, you want each other.

        1. Exactly. Return of Kings is a gay recruitment site on a massive scale. You would have to be an effeminate nancy boy to want to hang around with girls. Plus CDC level cooties,

        2. Exactly. Rok is a gay recruitment site on a massive scale. One would have to be an effeminate nancy boy to want to hang out with girls. Plus the CDC level cooties. Here like minded men can recruit. Men should only hang with men, all of us always say.

    3. Nobody cares what you think, except you.
      You are now assigned to the trash bin. Slainte.

  65. I’ve walked out on a date because she was texting, if im paying she better not be an ass, ur the one with the wallet u have the power.

  66. “4. Not apologizing when she texts or takes a call in your presence.” I’ve never had a girl do this before (weirdly) but I see it happen all the time and it annoys the hell out of me. If it ever did happen I may just walk out. I mean I could have spent that time working on my business, learning a skill, or hanging with friends so any time i spend with a girl should be treated like gold (by her) because it just as valuable if not more.

  67. #4 is a give and give situation. I don’t flirt with other women or pull out my phone or other stuff of that nature , I expect her to do the same.

  69. Kind of unrelated, but I seriously saw this last night at 445 am, no idea why I was up that late, but… I live on the 2nd floor and my balcony overlooks a small courtyard, having a smoke. Saw a fat girl lean up against this ledge, let her fat ass hang out, and starts pissing. Midpiss I shouted disgusting!! She wasn’t done pissing but we locked eyes, she was hilariously humiliated. Scampered off immediately thereafter. Some things can’t be unseen.

  71. The right woman will encourage the guy to go further in life, to be more successful professionally, or to advance in some other way, even if it means doing something drastic like leaving family behind and moving to a new city or something like that.
    A woman who insists you stay in your dead home town and work a shit job because she doesn’t want to leave everything she’s ever known needs to be kicked to the curb ASAP.

  72. Wonderful article. Now, don’t mind me while I dump a batch for all of the above

  73. When you are getting ready to inject your seed, the female should wrap her legs around you and clutch as if she is about to catch liquid gold. Anything less, unless there has been an error of calculation, and it’s done or will be.

  74. Holy Bible 1 Timothy 2:12 ” A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
    I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
    For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
    And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.”
    “

    1. 1 Corinthians 11:3 “But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.”
      1 Corinthians 14:34-35 “Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.”

      1. Go fuck yourself, god boy…..take your religious shit and shove it up your ass.

        1. (I Corinthians 11:8-9) “For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.”
          (Ephesians 5:22-24) “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.”

    2. Fuck you and your misogynistic patriarchal fairy tales….yeah, religious fucking fairies….suck me off.

      1. “Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman.” (Eccles. 25:13)

  75. Don’t hurt people just to satisfy yourself. It’s worse for you than it is for them.
    Don’t misinterpret #6 as thinking it’s okay to genuinely hurt someone. For the sake of your own sanity and your soul, it’s not okay.
    If you DO misinterpret #6 as thinking it’s okay to genuinely hurt someone, realize that you are dependent on the people you hurt. Learn to become less dependent on others.

  76. Sorry but number 6 is unacceptable advice. While this:
    “If she tells you to stop the millisecond after she gets her nut, without you getting yours, I want you to tell her that the point of having sex with women is so a man doesn’t have to use his hand, and that she has performed below the hand”
    is definitely douche behavior. This:
    “when a girl begs you to keep going even though you know she already came, even though she’s drying up, and even though you know it’s causing her pain.”
    Is plain selfish and IMO sexual assault and possibly rape. Unless you’re into pain, that should me BOTH of you are into pain, painful intercourse is not cool and not cool to impose on either party.
    I would warn ANY man reading that piece of “advice” to seriously consider whether they would like to deal with prison, trial and economic destruction, because chick happened to get dry.
    You know what you do with a chick who’s drying up? Grab some fucking lube, put it on your fingers, hit the g-spot and beyond with the fingers and then get back to nutting.

    1. “Is plain selfish and IMO sexual assault and possibly rape. ”
      Give me a break.

  77. This is the exact kind of article that turned me off of RoK. This isn’t how men act it’s how boys act. I am not necessarily disagreeing with everything in the article but the tone of it is just juvenile as are most of the articles I read here. It sounds like me at 20 something when I got laid more than any 10 of my friends combined but knew absolutely nothing about life. This site has some really great articles and some good advice occasionally but the majority of what is written here is just excuses to brag about how many girls you have slept with and how bad you treat them. Be better.

    1. I think you’re looking for r/TheBluePill over at Reddit. That will probably be more to your liking.

      1. Thank you for supporting my claim that this site is mostly populated by juveniles and doing it with zero originality…did you just copy and paste that from the 1000000000 other kids who said the same thing in place of an intelligent counter to an argument? And before you come back with a reply let me assure you I wont be impressed when you look up some big words to try and sound smart in your response. You have already established what you are….big words won’t change that.

        1. No one is supporting any claim, but if you’re happy now to feel like you’ve gotten your validation for the day, feel free. No “big words” needed.
          You aren’t here to learn, share, contribute, or anything positive. But to (attempt) to insult and belittle.
          It’s par for the course with certain types. Not the type who would dare say the same thing to men like me in real life.
          It’s unfortunate some men are like that.

        2. Another failed attempt at sounding mature and masculine. Let me clue you in on a couple things. Internet bravado is for children. If you want to be a man, like you claim, learn to take criticism without getting your feelings hurt. Use it to better yourself. Don’t just discount those who give it and posture like you are something your’e not. I am older than you, more experienced than you, better educated, and more intelligent. I know this to be true by what little you have written. That should be an eye opener but judging from your previous comments it probably won’t. Be better.

        4. You are not a man, you are a manboy….and hell yeah, i would have no problem telling you to your weasel face what a loser you are.

        5. He has the right to comment. You silly manboys, you love to tell everyone else, especially wimmin, what to do, how to think etc but when someone schools you, you get all butt hurt. bend over and pull down your man panties, I will give you some butt hurt.

        6. I have great news! I would be happy to give you the opportunity to prove yourself right.
          There are many, many flights in/out of Hartsfield International Airport here in Atlanta. You won’t even have to leave the airport area.
          When is a good time for you? I’m somewhat flexible.

    2. I doubt most of the sexual claims made here are true…these guys are all fucking hater loser manboys. Rooshie baby being the biggest one but then again he is Iranian and they are pigs towards wimmin, to be expected from old Rooshie….what a twit, what a manboy….what a sad excuse for a human…..peddling his toxic masculinity…..all the while pulling on his little pud, while holding a cum stained copy of Juggs.

  78. To give everyone a perspective: My ex GF passed the door test. I had never experienced something like that and thought it was pretty cool. However, she lacked severely in other areas. At this moment in my life (early 30’s), it is not worth being in a relationship with a woman.

    1. Trust me, no woman in her right mind would want a relationship with a manboy loser like you.

      1. Because womyn all want mangina simps like you that grovel at their feet, obviously you think so, MANGINA!

  79. The era of male domination should be over..as this article is masculinism, the truth is male and female should be equal. The world could have been a better place if feminine and masculine energies are balanced which is the original way nature (or should I say God?) intended it to be.

    1. Careful or all the manboys will gang up on you and call you a mangina because in manboy world anythign to do with wimmin is inferior….all these guys need is a pocket pussy…

      1. (Eccles. 26:25)”A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord. A woman that honored her husband shall be judged wise of all; but she that dishonored him in her pride shall be counted ungodly of all.A loud crying woman and a scold shall be sought out to drive away the enemies.”

      2. Yes, you do know what you are, you mangina. So you flip a coin when there is a bump in the night and sometimes she goes downstairs with the bat, right? Being “equal”, right? BIG assumption that you ever had a woman, you MANGINA.

    2. The USA is blatantly matriarchal and gynocentric. It ceased being “male dominated” a long time ago when the population of grovelling mangina simps such as yourself exploded like maggots on road kill. Did you take your wife’s last name? Assuming you have a wife or ever had a LTR with any female.
      So, women should register for the draft? Or would your mangina self deflect that contradiction of your pussy BS by pretending reality isn’t reality and there shouldn’t be registration for draft while there actually is and women, who vote, aren’t required to participate?
      GFY, mangina, white knight, pussy, hypocrite, slave to feminaziism.

  80. Great article. Changing music is deft a deal breaker. I remember one girl who asked if she could put something on. I looked at her and firmly said “no.” and that was the end of it. I still never trusted her. One girl actually reached for my ipad to change the music without asking. I suggested we go out and get a drink. Had one drink then left. It all eminates from the Bonx Tale. Loads of women in this world. If she is a selfish bitch then that is just who she is. As soon as you see it “dump her”

  81. Roosh is a Gemini.
    The Gemini girls I’ve boned were good for maybe 5 minutes then their minds begin to wonder.
    I’m a Capricorn and expect a long time boning. One girl challenged me beforehand to 4 hours but she begged me to stop after 2 hours.
    There is something to this astrology stuff when it comes to compatibility.
    But when a woman gets VERY serious, she’ll want to start “taking care of you” in ways little and big. You need to acknowledge and encourage her caring ways – your kids need it – yet be sure you can always exercise veto power.

    1. You are such a liar. BTW, fucking girls makes you a pedophile, you fucking pervert

  82. Oh you needy little bitch…..you do not want advice from wimmin but here you are most likely telling wimmin constantly what they need to do…how about this? GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING PERSIAN LOSER. Your list is nothing more than your hatred for wimmin, not advice for men. I highly doubt you have gotten laid more than ten times in your pathetic life.
    Get on your knees, Rooshie boy, and suck my cock. That is what you need…it might shut you up, bitch.

    1. Obvious white knight mangina who thinks women are equals while he does everything for them, bows to them, and expects every other man to be a simp like him. Did you offer Roosh a straw first before demanding he suck your worm?

  83. I usually enjoy articles on ROK and then every now and then I read a wtf is this stupid shit and It always this Roosh guy sounds like some ISIS sympathizer at times with his view on women

    1. A Christian Wife is to Obey Her Husband in EVERY THING!
      (1 Peter 3) Wives, respect and obey your husbands.

  84. I only have 1 rule that looks simple but dismisses 99% of western women: Look how she treats others.
    If she is excited about you, you can’t know anything observing her behaviour, because everything she does is probably a product of her egotism. Now she wants to keep you close and treats you well. When she doesn’t anymore, and that will happen, will she? You can’t know.
    But when she is generous or at least respectful and kind when she has no reason to, (only with kids and pets is not enough, with anyone) that’s a keeper. Because at least you know she will respect and treat you with consideration, like a human being, even if she doesn’t feel the same excitement for you anymore.
    Very few women pass this test in the West.

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