Adam, the first man, was also the first blue pilled man to have been red pilled. To examine this hypothesis, lets re-read the very short story of Adam and Eve, analyzing it line by line using the classic NIV translation—and along the way, each sentence of this brief, ancient story will reveal a bunch of other red pill wisdom.
This story is precisely Genesis 3. It starts:
1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
We all know the snake tempted Eve to eat from the forbidden tree, but what’s interesting here is that he does so by planting doubt about an eternal truth. This is lesson #1 from this story: the classic strategy of bad people is to go to well-meaning, average people, and start planting doubts about what is true or false, trying to get them to doubt the wisdom of the world they were born into. This is precisely the core weapon of SJWs: they go to average people and plant seeds of doubt about your instincts about what is right or wrong.
2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
Earlier in Genesis, God had told Adam not to eat from the tree, but he never told him not to touch it (Genesis 2:17). Lesson #2: Women exaggerate.
4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
This line is important for two reasons. First, the snake here—the embodiment of evil—is actually the one telling the truth. God had earlier told Adam that if he eats from the tree, he will “certainly die” (Genesis 2:17), but the snake says he won’t. And, to skip to the end of the story (I’m guessing you know the ending already?), Adam and Eve are banished from the garden but they’re not killed. So, God lied (or changed his mind), and the snake was right.
Second, Lesson #3 is that sometimes, evil people are actually telling the truth. And Lesson #4 is the deep utility of the “limited hangouts.” Limited hangouts (to use the CIA term) are powerful weapons: a bad person (the snake or the CIA) reveals a small amount of true information, but not all of it, in order to get their target to engage in the bad action.
It goes on:
6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
So, Adam knows there’s one law he shouldn’t break, his wife asks him to break it, and he does. That’s the definition of being blue pill. The first man is also the first blue pilled man.
But this tree they ate from, earlier in Genesis (2:9) is referred to as “the tree of knowledge of good and evil” and the snake above had made the same comment. Lesson #5: only through doing what is forbidden, breaking the rules, will you be able to learn why wisdom says that X is good and Y is bad. This is a metaphor for the pickup universe morphing into the dissident right: we had to go through the rule-breaking phase (doing what we can to pick up women) in order to learn what is good and what is evil.
But there’s another lesson in this line, Lesson #6: as soon as he could see the difference between good and evil, what was the first thing Adam realized? He’s naked. That’s a great metaphor for wisdom: as we learn the subtle way the world works, the first thing we learn is that–although we thought we knew a lot, we really know nothing. That we’re intellectually naked.
8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”
10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”
So, God comes looking for Adam, and Adam, having realized he was naked, went into hiding. This is the first example of fear in the bible, and also Lesson #7: the first fear, the deepest fear, the fear before all others isn’t a fear of anything external to you—but a fear of yourself because of your own ignorance.
11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”
12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
Finally, at Genesis 3:12 Adam takes the first red pill in history. God realizes that Adam had eaten from the forbidden tree and asks him who gave it to him, and he doesn’t white night the woman. Blue Pill Adam would have been the white night, taking the fall for her. But instead, he simultaneously blames her—and calls out God for being an asshole to him for setting him up for the fall (“you put [her] here with me”). He started standing up for himself. The first man in the record of humankind was bluepilled… and then took the red pill as well.
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
To the woman’s credit, she’s admits responsibility. On the other hand, Eve comes off a bit like the apocryphal quote attributed to Churchill: “Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing… after they have exhausted all other possibilities.” That’s Lesson #8: woman can be counted on to do the right thing, after having tried all other options.
14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,
“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
The snake, the first evil creature, is punished by having to crawl, eat dust, and have his children brutally murdered. This leads to Lesson #9: the worst punishment isn’t death—it’s unclear if death is even a punishment—but to have to be on your knees, low down, bending, submitting to someone else. Death is preferable to a life where you need to slither. And Lesson #10, almost equal to condemning someone to a life of submission is a life of eating shit (“dust”) in the exact words here. A life without basic, physical pleasures like good food is a life worse than death. And Lesson #11, the one other punishment greater than death is to see your children suffer before your eyes. Any parent will agree to that.
16 To the woman he said,
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
Woman’s punishment is pain in childbirth and… the desire for her man to rule over her. This is Lesson #12 and comes to the heart of red pill wisdom: women WANT her man to dominate and rule over her. Women wanting to submit to her man wasn’t only common knowledge for the thousands of years of recorded history pre-feminism, but the Bible opens with a story that gives an origin for this behavior.
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
This verse not only includes one of the most beautiful, powerful, and eternal passages of recorded literature (“for dust you are and to dust you will return”) reminding us of the brevity of life, but it also gives man his basic commandment: he has to work, and his work will be painful. And this is Lesson #13: men have to sweat and work to survive, and it will be painful. There’s no way around it. So man has two options: to accept our fate, and turn our hard work into meaning, or find meaning elsewhere.
20 Adam[l] named his wife Eve,[m] because she would become the mother of all the living.
21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
This concise story wraps up with man and woman, having been given a glimpse of what the difference is between good and bad, can no longer live in paradise. Only the goods can know the difference between good and evil. What this boils down to is Lesson #14: since knowing what is good and what is bad is something we will never be able to learn, so the best we can do is guess based on the accumulated wisdom of the ages. But we need to have the humility to remember that our ideas of what is good and bad are only approximations, that we may be wrong so we should have an open mind… and since you may be wrong, you shouldn’t crucify every single person with whom you disagree. This is a lesson I wish the SJWs on Twitter understood. Maybe they ought to re-read Genesis, too.
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“The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
First asshole blaming everyone but himself for his deeds. At least the woman has the balls to accept responsibility.
problem with many red pill man want good woman but a lot of them deny Godliness.and call Christianity stupid and worship of sky daddy
there is no good woman who is not in some way believe in God. yes there are filthy ones who claim to believe in God however there is no real good one who does not believe in God.
She did nothing of the sort, She said ” The SERPENT DECIEVED ME (blamed others) and I ate.”…that s not taking responsibility, AT ALL. She did not ADMIT to coercing Adam to eat of the fruit as well (which she DID do.) Yawn is a Typical woman, lies and deceives for her own agenda. AWALT.
I the point is we all see that Adam and Eve pointed the finger of blame. However, Adam’s response was more hostile towards God and kind of tried to blame God. The woman did point at the serpent but in some ways she was also less willing to deny she ate the fruit. Did she cry as she said this or have eyes cast down etc. The above may not be hard to picture being believable. She also did not lie about the seduction or deceit of the serpent.
Adam’s real problem is that he was right next to her when and took the Apple and didn’t tell her not to. That was his real blue-pill moment.
Dude, great timing for this article. The pope just claimed, Adam did what he did because of fake news. What a dick!
Good thing Adam never existed.
The first and last time in history a woman took full responsibility.
God didn’t lie. In man kinds perfect state in the garden there wasn’t death. Just because God didn’t kill them doesn’t mean he lied or changed his mind. They both definitely died, all be it 900+ years down the road they still died and lost fellowship with God which was the greatest of the punishments.
Agreed. And the definition of death is deeper than mortality. Death is a distance from God. Like the wages of sin are death; that is distance from God.
God lies all the time. He said Adam and Eve would die if they are the fruit.
So, just some guy, you’re saying Adam and Eve are still alive?
But Adam and Eve did died. There is 2 death in christianity. Physical death (the body die) and Spiritual death (the spirit die) which is distance/separate from GOD.
And that’s the hamster spinning.
G*d made Adam and Eve (Ish and Isha), not Adam and Steve, or Eve and Veronica….Homosxuals need to be punished under God’s law, which is public stning for the H3llfire!
OT: Woman in Sweden convicted to one and a half year in prison as a consequence of a false rape accusation, which was rebutted by means of DNA evidence in conjunction with false statements being revealed. At least that is some light in the tunnel.
http://www.dagensjuridik.se/2018/01/kvinnas-logn-om-valdtakt-ytterst-allvarlig-doms-till-ett-och-ett-halv-ars-fangelse
One and a half years? That’s it?
There ought to be a National/Universal False Rape Accuser registry so other men can avoid dating this evil witch. Pursue at your own peril.
Most of these ROK articles are not even worthy for reading while on the toilet.
Better content here
I agree and economy of the Congo may Exceed that of Japan in the near future and the new silicon valley should be in Nigeria staffed by the most excellent local graduates writing all of the new AI and distributed computing algorithms. They will also be working hard in the factories with thousands standing in lines obediently and differentially working assembling the new xphones. Currently Nigeria is a society where nearly 30% of men are recluses hiding in their rooms as hikikomori and few still have interest in marriage or sex so its good for some to get out of their houses.
Racial differences are ‘uuge and the reason why Africa and East Asia ain’t gonna go in the same direction. Humans that left Africa mixed even with different species after leaving Africa ie Neanderthals, Denisovans ( East Asians ) and possibly others which those remaining did not.
To quote biology.stackexchange.com/questions/14414
“According to Woodley (2010), it is plausible that H. sapiens does not belong to one species and subspecies (i.e. is polytypic). Some of the data he uses to support this hypothesis could be useful for answering our question. He claims that H. sapiens, which is often considered monotypic, posses higher levels of morphological diversity, genetic heterozygosity and differentiation than many animal species which are considered polytypic.”
Its political that we are all considered the same subspecies, don’t kid yourself. Culture is the cherry on top and does not account for very much of the difference between African, White and East Asian society ( biology does ). The problem leftists face is that thinking about this it is so clearly true they instead try to stop debate wherever possible. Their kindred spirits are the radical Islamists who prevent questioning of the faith.
Grey wolves have far less DNA variation yet are classed at 37 subspecies and they acknowledge that they all live differently according to their differing biology. We are all equal in value, but we are very different as well. There are few places on the Internet that allow the truth to be spoken. Welcome.
An ancient flaw in her nature draws a woman to a weak man. This flaw teaches her to feel secure by making him fail. It also excites the weakness of the man to cling to her, which is what fuels in her a false sense of security, of power.
This mysterious flaw in woman’s nature arises from the spirit of Original Sin; and its current mystique inherently and always appeals to, and supports, the compatible wrong in man. This misguided female spirit feels power through agreeing with what has gone wrong in man. To satisfy the need of this spirit, a man’s ego must be stroked and gratified, progressively weakened, and eventually destroyed to keep her happy. But happiness is always short-lived, because she becomes possessed by a madness she can neither understand nor control.
Every woman instinctively inherits this black widow spider knowledge—tempting her man and sucking out his juices. Men sense the danger, but they are drawn to fulfill the mysterious and original promise of a life of glory implicit in a woman’s love. To get a man, every woman knows she must put him up on a pedestal. She rationalizes that selfish compulsion as her loving duty. It is not.
Man is also insecure. He inherits the guilt of a wounded pride, which is forever trying to recover by employing the original spirit of its fall—the woman—obligating her spirit to give what she really cannot deliver. It is as though his need were trying to draw up through her a spirit to make good its ancient promise. Instead of improving his lot with her affections, he is made progressively worse. As long as she continues to lie, offering herself like a Las Vegas dealer, he goes on hoping upon hope on the next turn of the dice. But he goes on losing, reinforcing the spirit of the house with his vital substance.
Simple: be only with people who wish the best for you. Stop wasting time on dysfunctional people and do not let them drag you down. You decide who you want to be with — choose the best partner, the best of friends. Cut ties with losers who want to see you fail. If you have a dysfunctional family member who feels glee when you stumble, avoid that person.
The adult person who actually believes that this story is about an actual tree, actual snake and actual fruit is more naive than a child. It’s obviously a sexual allegory and it can be proven through several other Biblical scriptures and the “apocrypha”.
Or the whole book is just total bullshit. Word of God my arse. If there is a God then He has a direct line to every living creature, no need for books and fairy tales, only humans need writing, and guilt and intellectual nonsense to control. I’ve done some bad things in my life but nothing I would deem as evil, we all know the basics of what is right and wrong the problem comes with the grey areas in between which religion gladly fills in.
Whether or not you believe that the book is total bullshit you can’t escape the fact that prominent people in the Bible are sometimes referred to as “trees” or “the seed of vipers”. In Ezekiel 31 the Egyptian pharaoh is reffered to as “a cedar in Lebanon that none of the trees in the garden of Eden could match in its majestic beauty”.
“Which of the TREES OF EDEN can be compared with you in splendor and majesty? Yet you, too, will be brought down with THE TREES OF EDEN to the earth below; you will lie among the uncircumcised, with those killed by the sword.” Ezekiel 31:18
“Eating” is inferred as something a woman does in Proverbs when she cheats on her husband and she then wipes her “mouth” after the act
“Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.” Proverbs 30:20
Jesus referred to some of the pharisees and the sadduccees as “offspring of vipers” whose “seedline killed all of the prophets ” and even Abel through Cain
“You snakes, you offspring of serpents! How can you escape being condemned to hell? Because of this, I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify, and others you will flog in your synagogues and persecute in town after town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood shed on earth, FROM THE BLOOD OF RIGHTEOUS ABEL to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.” Matthew 23:33-35
Eve obviously had sex with a forbidden “fruit” and all Adam had to do to be as equally guilty was to take her back as a wife. Once a man accepts a wife that has slept with another man he is also guilty in the eyes of God.
Yes, there is a sexual theme and innocence lost theme. Adam and Eve did not have children before they ate from the tree nor did they know they were naked. The question is how far do you want to go with that? I read up on it online and some even go as far as to say the serpent or Satan had sex and did sexual things with Adam and Eve.
Eve is the woman who rebelled against God. The consequence was pain, mortality, loss of innocence, loss of Paradise … Her polar opposite is Virgin Mary who was meek and humble and who accepted God. There was no rebellion on Mary’s side, only acceptance. The result was the birth of the Savior … I think this is one of the meanings of the story of Adam and Eve: rebellion against God and his wisdom.
Eve never existed. God is a lie.
God is real and you should know JESUS CHRIST the Lord God
Prove it.
Really? We should take seriously the ideas of someone who thinks snakes talk? Snakes do not talk. Get real.
OH? every time a woman talks, the snake that is her tongue, talks. AWALT.
a LIE by omission or limited hang out is STILL A LIE.
They dont talk but some people speak from the mouth of serpents. http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/11/17/the-dark-secrets-behind-the-popes-audience-hall-its-a-giant-reptilian/ I dont endorse this website or the article, pictures speak louder than words
This pill thing is annoying when you know the true meaning of the movie The Matrix
Wake up
Yeah, it’s the story of the Holacaust isnt it? Thatzs what Joel Silver claims.
So bullshit then
The moral of the story is that even in paradise women are not happy…Not even God was immune to “I’m unhaaaapppppy”
You know, I am still trying to reconcile that God made Lillith before Eve (different creation methods) but Lillith rebelled instantly and left the garden on her own but was banished from returning to the Garden of Eden, but NOT subjected to mortality even though she was a aware as if she had also eaten from the Tree of Life.
sooo…. it makes you wonder why if God is so perfect why he would plague man from the very beginning with two very defective women that he created, who exhibited the exact same defective traits BEFORE THEIR FALL, and still blame and afflict and punish Adam for what his effed up creations did.
Reason that mess out for me, or else he is pretty sadistic to saddle with his twisted creations.
They never existed. Evolution proves it.
The story is a fairy tale.
And now we are on the cusp of a new form of human
that won’t even need woman for reproduction.
This story is the story of us, of humanity. And it is true because it is exactly what happens whenever we eat “forbidden fruit”- that is, when we sin (in whatever way) by going against God. The results are always the same. We blame everyone else. We even blame God.(“The woman you gave me “) We try to hide. We lose being with God.
Notice how God went to Adam first to question him.His sin was silence and failure to protect Eve. He listened to his wife and not God. A man’s sacred duty is to ensure his family is following God.
Adam never existed
I prefer Jordan Peterson’s intpretation of Adam and Eve. It’s on youtube and offers far more insight in my opinion. Some of Ted’s interpretations of the story are taken too literal.
Christianity cucked itself with some stories being proven as false beyond all doubt; such as the Genesis creation story. It lacks enough by way of defined rules and laws and even lacks a core motivating ideology like Judaisms ethnocentric ideology, and Islams conquer – and take no prisoners matey – Genghis Kahn style ideology.
The fact that Christian leaders then started passing rules contrary to the Bible such as supporting gay marriage, and going against biblical teachings on marriage gender roles means that the leaders surely cannot even believe it any more. They wouldn’t have brought themselves to pass rules against the Bible if they believed that it was god-given. Its like the leftists who are adamant on the pain of death that all races are equally capable but then would rush to invest if North Korea fell and not if a similar African dictator fell.
I am guessing many Church leaders in the depths of their hearts do not believe in God the same as many feminists realize that gender is not purely a social construct any more than is race. It seems that if you get smart and educated enough you just struggle to follow the propaganda anymore. That the rulings now contradict the Bible in many Churches makes it all just a tad of a joke.
The church itself is very far from red-pilled. Christianity was once the bastion of the red-pill and social, moral and intellectual uplifting of society. Guys like St. Paul could write for ROK, although he may be too red-pilled for the web.
I feel its a pity I feel the world lacks a decent religion for the common man and betterment of society at this point …
Separation of church and state is essential for a free and prosperous society.
Eve wasn’t the 1st woman, Lilith was and Adam was too beta to take charge of her so he ended up with a feminist who was later his downfall – if you believe the script anyway.
They never existed. Evolution proves it.
“The man has now become like one of us[…]”
Lesson #15:
There is more than ONE god!
(Who the hell are the others?!?)
Lesson #16:
The man is now like god!
(Well we did know this one already, didn’t we.)
ROFLMAO
God (the Father) Jesus (the Son) and the Holy Spirit = GOD
The story also shows a primitive hierarchy as we see Eve disobeying her husband Adam (you cannot necessarily disobey someone under you), and Adam disobeying God.
There are some similarities between this story and the beginnings of agricultural societies that transitioned from hunter/gatherer ones which could be consistent. Pre-Ag. and literate societies thought about the human role in nature differently then civilized ones generally do. hunter/gatherers could tell that they were different than animals and plants yet at the same time they also did not place themselves “higher” then the animals which is why their mythical animals talked (like the snake). The best explanation for this is they saw themselves as “part of nature” where as in civilized cultures we see ourselves masters of the earth and duty to work the land.
Another point to look at guys have to earn manhood (and girls womanhood) as flawed as we are yet a guy cannot be a man if he does not know he is better then an animal and has a higher purpose fitting the biblical narrative of the first man and woman.
Lastly, the sin might not have been that they gained knowledge (because they would possibly have to learn through trial an error) but because they disobeyed their authority. Remember: you cannot die if you have no concept of death or life.
This anthropological study is a little brief and incomplete but the story (like all the rest of the Biblical ones) are great pieces that apply from individuals to states and nations.
There is only one God. But us means the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
A Serious Question for Informed Posters
Why then are a certain non-Christian group so successful in the United States. I’m talking about Europe or Medieval times either, but right now.
Is it religion? Ethnicity?
What, dear commentators, leads to a certain group being successful.
Ability to spin a great yarn? Deceptive, controlling nature knowing no shame? Taking advantage of ignorance and using humanity’s base instincts against it?
Soxmis
“Ability to spin a great yarn”
There is some truth to this. They are good at writing scripts, manage to get their pulse on the mood of the moment in popular culture, find a way to produce books, films, television series that people will give up money to purchase.
“Deceptive”
Well so are certain other minorities.
“Taking advantage of ignorance”
I don’t actually think the Cholos and Blacks are under their thumb to the same extent as whites are. Maybe by dint of going into a legal system where many are judges or lawyers but really Hispanics in particular do not give a shit about popular culture or the media anyhow so they have no opinion. The same might be said of Asians. It seems to be whites who become a social science experiment.
“Humanity’s base instincts”
Well, there is porn I guess.
Mestizos and blacks are bearers of the jewish anti-White flame. They take to anti-Whiteness more than a healthy White male. A common anti-White will repeat what the jew media says, the more intellectual anti-Whites will look to a jew like Jared Diamond. jews are the anti- White mind, dumber non-Whites are the anti-White body. Whites who lack a racial soul just submit.
Possibly the worst exposition of scripture I’ve ever see.
The NIV is not a ‘classic’ translation, btw. Ironically, it is the embodiment of the serpent’s original lie, confusing, corrupting, perverted and inverting the true words of God with, largely, gibberish and unwarranted ‘interpretations’, interpolated by the translators to fit their own theology.
I think Joseph takes top honors in the category of discussion. He was sent to jail on false allegations of sexual assault by Potiphar’s wife; I call her “the original Feminist.”
If Adam was red pill from the get go, he would’ve next-ed Eve and humans wouldn’t exist. Then God would say, “Dang it. Let me start all over again.” Maybe that’s what happened. Perhaps that’s how we got our version of Adam and Eve?
Adam never existed.
I guess truth means nothing when it comes to your favorite fairy tales.
This story does have a lot of meaning to it and points out human nature. Eve was content until she thought she was being withheld something that held her back. Adam and Eve both pointed fingers but it is interesting that when Adam point the finger he got hostile with God. This can be seen as the first sign of sin nature.
God created women from men’s body. So they were meant to be together to make Men as 1 with his own real body.
Nowadays both want to be individualist and selfish for their own desire and pleasure which is the reason why it’s impossible to be back to what it was supposed to be for men and women
You certanlie die refers to that the snake actually lied, because Adam and Eve died after all, and in the garden they would have lived forever. that was what that phrase meant.
If God wrote the Bible, what does that make James Joyce?
“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman”…”the snake here—the embodiment of evil—is actually the one telling the truth.”
The serpent wasn’t telling the truth when he told Eve that she wouldn’t die, she may not have died at the moment she ate of the tree but through Adam all lost immortality.
Hi all! For those who speak Spanish, let me recommend you this article
http://laiberiafutura.blogspot.com.es/2017/08/adan-y-varona-desde-una-perspectiva.html
that provides an interesting explanation of the myth of Adam and Eve from our MGTOW point of view.
Cheers brothers!!
And, now the real story how & precisely when Eve becomes pregnant with Cain (1st born and by the Serpent’s seed) & then Abel, who witnessed the serpent delighting Eve. Then Adam’s desire to plant his garden with seed… thus Abel!