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Why The Female “Anti-Feminist” Is A Feminist In Disguise

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Starting at the end of 2015, I began seeing a sharp rise of women declaring themselves to be “anti-feminist.” They created Twitter accounts and Youtube channels to mock social justice warriors and feminists in similar ways that we have, even borrowing our talking points. While they may come across as genuine, these female infiltrators are mostly attention whoring to a male audience. They don’t want to change the world—they just want you to look at them.

If you have an anti-feminist movement with a high percentage of women in it, you don’t have an anti-feminist movement. The reason is that single women raised in the West will find it impossible to go against the female urge of sleeping with whomever they want and having complete control over their lives to pursue useless college degrees and degenerate behaviors. The only exception is women who want to be mothers before 30, but such women wouldn’t waste her time “building a brand” online instead of creating the family she greatly desires.

Anti-feminists share great overlap in ideology with actual feminists

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List of “conservative” “anti-feminists” that supported the firing of an innocent man based on a false accusation

The new anti-feminist will bash SJWs and their censorship efforts with great vigor, but when it’s time for society to stop them from opening their legs to sexy alpha males, they throw a temper tantrum. When it’s time to force them adopt traditional behaviors of maintaining a home instead of merely agreeing to traditional ideas in theory, they reveal themselves to be feminists at heart and use SJW language that labels you a “misogynist” or “rapist.”

I’ve had numerous “anti-feminists” in infiltrated movements (alt right, gamergate, men’s rights) attack me to the point where I can’t tell the difference between them and standard issue SJWs, even though our enemy is supposedly the same. This includes popular “anti-feminist” Shoe0nhead, pictured at the top of this article with one of her many Arabian lovers that she is desperate to keep secret for some reason. The reality is that anti-feminists like her are more aligned with the enemy than ourselves. They used entryist tactics that started with merely uploading a female avatar and looking pretty in webcam pictures.

One of the reasons for the rise of anti-feminists is not necessarily the strength of our ideas, but the fact that the feminist camp is too crowded. Being a feminist and holding an “I need feminism” sign used to be a great way to get attention online without having to show tits, but with thousands of girls doing it, any one girl no longer stands out. The practice of anti-feminism by females is therefore an alternative strategy to getting attention. Consider that a girl who is a 6 out of 10 can now make a Youtube video denouncing feminism and easily get 25,000 views. It’s also a way for girls to show men that they are “hip,” “dangerous,” and “cool.” Men online are so thirsty and lonely that they lavish these girls with attention because they’re “just like one of the guys.”

The anti-feminist test

These anti-feminist females are not traditional and not even conservative. They are liberals in disguise. You can ask them these questions to reveal where their true sympathies lie:

  • “Are you against homosexual marriage?”
  • “Do you believe it’s ideal for a woman to remain a virgin until she gets married?”
  • “Do you believe that it’s best for children to be raised by a stay-at-home mother?”
  • “Do you believe a woman’s choices should be constrained by her husband, tribe, or church with the intention of doing what’s best for her?”
  • “Do you believe it’s wrong for a young girl to find herself by traveling around the world and trying new experiences?”

Good luck finding an anti-feminist who says yes to even two of the above questions. I suspect the only girl who would is already married and a stay-at-home mother who happily submits to her masculine husband.

While the anti-feminists have been useful during group actions against SJWs online, the drawback is that their platform size may grow enough to cause damage in the future when they have a difficult menstrual cycle and start needless drama by attacking genuine conservatives. They will not submit to anything but their female biology and bottomless pit of narcissism while the weak men who follow them act as their enablers and white knights.

In spite of their big talk online, anti-feminists ultimately want to maintain the status quo, and have taken on our ideas as a strategy to get attention and fill the childless void in their lives. They will have absolutely no place within the sphere of neomasculinity.

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272 thoughts on “Why The Female “Anti-Feminist” Is A Feminist In Disguise”

  1. Plenty of women fall in line with feminist. Just gotta ask the right questions.

  2. Anti-feminists are simply feminists who are correcting the gross excesses of regressive feminism.
    Feminists and anti-classists think they can never be too extreme. People forget that Pol Pot was a class justice warrior. Year Zero Theory, anyone? In France, Pol Pot’s Year Zero theory was applauded by academics. Why wouldn’t he go try to install it?

    2. Isn’t that a recent fling though?? The linked video in his article is from like 2013. I think it would be more to not tarnish her rep with the alt right crowd who might drop by her videos. Have you SEEN the comments on that youtube video?? They’re hilarious and the video has more downvotes than up.

      1. It is and most of the people who down voted it strike me as butthurt guys pissed she was banging a black dude at the time. I’ll never meet her in real life so why should I care who she’s with?

        1. Exactly. But what was to be expected? 99.9% of her audience are betas and omegas who fantasize with sweeping her (and her ilk) off her feet and “rescuing” from her mundane life to have sex with her, while neglecting self-improvement. How pathetic.

        4. Indeed. While I find her stuff funny on occasion, I doubt much of it’s sincere. On the list of things to give a shit about it’s pretty low on the list.

        5. In that case I won. I had never heard of her until this article came out. But seriously, a woman that takes something seriously (beside obvious female pastimes, interests and her progeny) is very rare.

        6. -Common decency
          – Another white man she might spread for being infected with an std.
          -That guy infecting a slut you might end up banging.

        7. -Giving a crap about who some chick that lives in Long Island is banging is typical retarded fanboy/girl lower than beta behavior.
          -Race has zero interest to me, given that I’m mixed.
          -Infected sluts once again give zero interest, given that I’m married to a blonde haired, blue eyed Texas woman.

    3. Doubt they’re married, but I know they’re an item. I just crack up at her jokes but never take any of those channels seriously.

        3. Not yet. Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll have to check that channel out sometime.

        5. no she doesn’t claim to be a feminist.i don’t know what that claim amounts to though.

        7. Typical hipster bullshit.
          The old stuff is better. I was a fan before they got rwally popular. Now i dont like them.
          Have you heard of these new guys? Of course you havent. Only the super coolest non hipster hipsters know of them. Otherwise, lame. Totally lame.

    4. I doubt it, he is probably a cuck in an open relationship where only she gets an erection selection. Even a multicultural SJWhore instinctively knows miscegenation is unnatural/ repulsive and decreases her smv to such an extent that no white male who gives her tingles would f*ck her with your d1ck if he ever found out about her crime against nature

  4. My ex was an anti-feminist feminist in disguise. Long story short, don’t believe a word a woman says about being “anti-feminist” or at least be on your toes, read every single article on ROK, and you will be in decent shape, my friend.
    A good way to sum this up, literally what happened to me, if you date an anti-feminist feminist in disguise, you will get your dick sucked whenever you want and out of nowhere a femenist roid raged psychopath charging toward you at 3am in the morning, throwing an ironing board at your head while you’re sleeping. This was a “daddy issues girl,” dad left her on the porch when she was a little girl, now she’s on a war path to destroy men, thanks dad. This one has already had a man fired from his government job by making false sexual harassment claims. Same girl that wore high heels, lingerie and made me my favorite meal while blowing me before during and after dinner. Threw an ironing board at my head while I was sleeping at 3am in the morning. (7 hotel stays in 7 months). There was a part of me that felt like “dealing” with such a psychopath was “manly,” I don’t know, ha! It was crazy, I’ll tell you that, just make sure you’re smart and come out clean. Document, take pictures, save emails, always be the one who is walking away and have documentation to prove it. Go through it once, then never again, then be a player.
    Shortly after that, I found another anti-feminist who could suck start a leaf blower, had a few kids and wanted me to take the provider role. I’m single now, still no kids, I’ve been called “lucky.”

    1. I’ve got one sister of a set who might become the unicorn that’s actually anti-feminist. Greater testing is required, but she’s a bright kid who is fascinated by the likes of Teal Deer and Sargon of Akkad.
      Fingers crossed, here.

    2. Honestly all the girls Ive met that gave me sex EVERY time I asked were completely nuts. Insecure as hell and always worried about me leaving/cheating. Its a major red flag. Girls should be secure enough to say no every now and then without fearing abandonment.

      1. But submissive and appreciative enough to keep their trap shut about it and deal grade a shit.

      2. Not only should they never say no, they should initiate more than you do, turn you on enough to initiate by wearing skimpy sex shop attire and bringing other bi poon around for group sex. Anything less is rubbish to be discarded

  5. All women want attention…they just use different avenues to get it from men (the high value men…and then the thirsty orbiters).
    It’s the same old game from women, just a new avenue (be it the gamer girl, a girl in politics or in this case the “anti-feminist” girl). There is no difference. If they can’t compete or stand out in one crowd, then they’ll find a new “gig”. It’s the case with all women….you just need to pay attention.

    1. I would like to be a YouTuber some day. But, seeing as I’m not a twenty-something girl with decent cleavage, I’ve got an uphill battle to fight.
      Trying to master that British accent that seems to virtually guarantee viewers.

      1. In other words you have to work. Women hate admitting it but their assets (looks, tits, ass) are what get them through the door in any situation. It’s their real value. Many women who don’t have these “assets” are pissed (mostly at women) but try to take it out on men.
        Men have to work…to show real value.

        1. If I had to use one of my native accents, I’d either sound like every Midwestern American or a Southern Redneck. Casual observation suggests I’ll sound smarter to most people if I can sound like either an Australian, a London Brit, or a soccer hooligan.
          Too bad my Irish makes me sound like a bit of a gay Leprechaun; otherwise I’d already be set.

        2. That southern charm works outside of the U.S.. I’ve seen it in action….good stuff.

        3. Great in real life, not so great on the Internet.
          I live in Colorado now, and people go wild when I slip down into my Southern heritage. Back home, nobody notices, but outside the South it’s unique and fascinating.

        4. Get a wig and be a camgirl with a dick.
          You’ll get views. You might not like yourself the next day.
          That reminds me… anybody remember a poster from around here, Camel Jockey, who modded a pic of a fat girl with his own face and was trolling betas on OKstupid? I think he used the handle “Camile Jackie” or something like that. Even in short order some top keks ensued.

        7. Lucky for me I have an Australian accent but I can pull off a tremendous Greek one also-not sure which I would use but if and when I get down to podcasting I will be ripping apart these and other subhumans I despise most gleefully.

        8. The properly cultured Southern Accent will drop panties anywhere English is spoken….except Alin the south where they are common.

        9. The great thing about Islam it tells women to hide their assets while working so they can be respected for their work. I love being respected for my work, especially with Muslim male colleagues are so respectful to Muslim women but we carry ourselves with respect. I am so glad our elders didn’t cave in just because the $57 million dollar mainly jewish atheist headed defamation of our religion program, like Christians caved into militant atheism, some of which is headed by the same people. I understand after being persecuted for their money in the middle ages by feudal warlords that some jews are atheist, traumatized by religion and try to use their success to push their PTSD onto others. I feel for them, but they are quiet nasty and vicious towards religious people who never attacked them who had nothing to do with any terrorist attack. I am glad Muslims don’t cave into them. I think we should help Christians develop a back bone and support the church to stand up to atheist bullies so we can have hope of leadership in family values in the west.

      3. I’ve considered it too. But I’m not some childish prick with a punchable face and high-pitched voice (not that I think you are, just most popular u-tubers are).
        Just a non-pc baritone.

      4. Alternative: Become a pretend transgender. Thrn you can have cleavage, too. Plus, it makes you super exotic, for no reason at all.

      5. Hmmm maybe I should try that. Lol. I am in the same boat. I cover up in my videos and I am 31, and have a channel to help my home town Taiz, Yemen that’s going through war but gets little media coverage. It helps Yemenis get the world, but get other people to know about Yemen and the matrix of the lying media, where even after you take the red pill, reality is another layer in the matrix and there is more than one reality. My husband and I are trying to figure out what’s going on with the Cold War 2.0 propaganda war and the corruption of western media, and get to the bottom of it

        1. What’s your channel name? (If it’s in english I wouldn’t mind dropping by)

    2. Young men and those new to the red pill also need to know that the worst “anti-feminist” woman is the one that has no female friends. It usually takes just one good cock block from her to make you wise up that you are friend zone material she doesn’t want to lose to a higher quality woman. Save your time and money by avoiding this type!

      1. Beautiful, valuable women dont dabble in political issues or waste their time squabbling with strangers. Theyre too busy being pursued.

    3. When women observe that most feminists have beta boyfriends, its only logical that they would become anti feminists to attract alphas. Unfortunately, they’re just playing the role and not actually maturing into better women.

  6. Most of the men on this site already know this, but this comment is for those still coming around:
    Women offer zero political value. Their opinions waft around like a fart in the wind. Appeal to a few of their emotions, look good in a suit, and you’ll have their vote. So you guys who sit around while smacking it to Youtube girls with “conservative” views, you’re a big part of the problem. Take away the customers, and these women won’t have a store. It’s that simple.

    1. You only need to see the U.S. and Canada in the last election cycles. There were plenty of women voting for political leaders who offer no real value to the citizens.
      In other words, tax payers got screwed….bad ROI.

      1. That and women voting = welfare state. It’s as predictable as 1+1 = 2. You never see men (masculine men) feeding stray cats, only women. They offer zero profound insights while simultaneously destroying a functional system. Allowing them to vote is like purposefully dumping water on a laptop and thinking it will increase the computer’s performance.

        3. Some masculine men do feed strays, but you’ll never catch them doing it. If you do, they’ll put on a tough front to hide that temporary display of weakness.

        4. So that’s why all that pussy keeps coming around here. Dammit Taignobias, quit feeding the strays!

        7. I feed a stray but I call him “asshole” just so we’re clear. Actually it’s true, most cats are worthless assholes with no loyalty.

        8. I was cool with my black cat until it grew an afro so big the top of its head looked like a big black bag of Jiffy Pop.

        9. So true, and Im on the fence if you should be required to own land or a business to vote…gotta have some skin in the game.

        10. In today’s world, at least cats keep themselves clean and stay off guests. Dogs with no true purpose (99% of the motherfuckers today) are simply worthless and filthy. I.e. any apartment dog.

        11. You ever saw a woman feeding stray cats? I didn’t. Except maybe for a Youtube video, to feed their moral vanity. But then, men also do that.

        13. Yes. The college I attended was filled with feral cats. They just lived in the woods nearby and kept breeding. My former roommate’s girlfriend, despite my insistence that she didn’t, fed some of the strays that hung around our apartment complex. Every time I came home after that, there were five of those fuckers meowing at me and trying to follow me inside. There was also this crazy cat lady English professor who fed the cats and had a harem of about ten kitties that followed her around.

        17. I’ve known women who wouldn’t vote for a Male politician simply because, he was ugly. The guy could have been absolutely politically brilliant, but sorry guy, the latest report from the “tingle poll” shows numbers way down with female voters….women are unable to understand ideas and concepts that exist outside of their immediate emotions.

        20. The idea of having some form of prerequisites for voting aside from simple citizenship and age of majority strikes me as smart. Say some form of asset ownership and passing a test on the basics of economics, political history, math and philosophy? Maybe that would be a good way to form a responsible electorate? Democracy has some really deep flaws because politicians can simply buy votes by promising things. Look at Venezuala. We can feel for the Venezualans and bemoan the damage done by socialism but the fact is the population there voted for Chavez because he promised them all kinds of things.

        21. There is a reason the classic Halloween witch is always depicted with a black cat. She rides the broom handle because they didn’t have molded plastics to make dildos with yet.

        23. These city dwelllers with their dogs they barely walk. And let shit everywhere. Fuckem!.
          Dogs need a yard and tons of outdoor time .

        24. i confess that i have been known to feed a stray cat once in a while. so. there it is.

        25. Good luck finding a test that isn’t biased can be agreed upon to be implemented. The FSE is a great example of how biased things are.

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        30. I had the pleasure of getting to work with a retired SS agent back in the 90’s. We were picking up a VIP from the airport one night when I asked him about his first few years with the SS. His first gig was to travel with JFK when he was campaigning in 1960 and he said, “If I had a dollar everytime some woman squeeled how cute he was. He’s got my vote” — I could have retired at the end of the campagin.” He clearly indicated women should not be involved in politics on more than one occassion.

        32. Attractiveness, skin color and genetalia definitely determine how Westerners choose leaders instead of, you know, those weird things like merit and ability.

        33. I have a soft spot for stray animals. None of them ever threatened to call cops on me over a disagreement, so they deserve an 89-cent can of tuna.

        34. “AHHHHHH! SHE WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD!”
          I’m gonna post this line from The Amityville Horror every time as a reply to one of these spam posts just to be a dick.

        35. Limbaugh referred to this phenomenon as the “arousal gap” back when Bill Clinton was running. Basically, mindless, mostly single women who knew nothing about the issues other than a few talking points and voted for Bill because he made them tingle.

        36. They are good pest control, in the right environment. There are cats all over the place in Morocco. I asked why, someone said “Have you seen any rats?” Good point. I’d take stray cats over rats any day.

        37. ??WTF? Gender neutral cats?? And that’s by one of the self-appointed “conservative” nitwit female typists on the petition against Cory L.

        38. Funny how quickly the Washington Post has fallen since it was bought out by Amazon.

        44. But this is only true if you don’t feed them. Like women (which is why they have such an affinity for post wall women) they will always take the freebie before they will exert one dyne of effort.

        45. He promised the poor all kinds of things. Since the poor out number the middle class and rich, they voted him in. Politicians, like the Democrats in the US, don’t just promise free shit, they promise to steal everything from the rich and give it to you poor people. This is called redistribution in the first world. It is just the same as Chavez promised, and will have the same end result. We just have more to steal and give away to worthless shits so it will take longer. The collapse is inevitable at this point.
          I did see a video of the Obama phone woman from the 2012 election, where she has come to realize that it was all a scam and has said Obama and the left in general doesn’t give a shit about helping poor people.

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        48. Most women yes, but some of us do pay attention and try to learn about the complexities of politics and economies. Today i lectured my dad about why conservatism is not the evil bogey man he thinks it is. Shouldnt it be him lecturing me?
          I know you speak in generalities….

        50. He is a fag. Maybe not an actual homosexual, but he is a fag. It’s so gay that he is in charge of Canada, which is full of SJWs and fags…

        51. I eat strays. Just kidding. I wonder how they taste? Pork run low…

        54. Exactly. And most who say they favor Hillary will vote for anyone against her. When they’re with their friends they’ll say they’re for Hillary, but that’s only to not make waves with the herd. But then in private they hate her guts because they hate any female who’d more successful than they are. And even when they’re successful women themselves, they still hate any woman below them in rank. They don’t operate with brains.

        55. Oh yeah. The Republicans thought putting all the sex scandals out there would sink Clinton. But woman like the bad-boy image of power-mad authority figure fucking anything he can. The more the press talked about sex, the more women voted for him. Before the election it wouldn’t have gone that way, though. It was after he became an authority figure.

        56. Cat’s cause brain damage. They carry a parasite that humans can catch from being around them. The parasite causes the host to be attracted to cats. (No lie!) So when you see women with more than one cat, just check her off as brain-damaged.

    2. Male thirst lurks like a cockroach…the appeal of playing Captain Save A Ho always lures a few hundred derelicts out of the woodwork.

      1. It’s disgusting and is a sure sign of the non-thinking dullards that fill our xy ranks. Men who can think deeply and independently, using objectivity, socratic method, and even survivalist instinct (note: women are very poor at these modalities of thinking) are paradoxically smarter than ‘high iq’ ideal conveyed in Hollywood blockbusters.

    4. I know a ton of good, conservative foreign women… who think Justin Trudeau and Barack Obama are the greatest things since sliced bread.

    5. Very true about men knowing that. I can also tell that Roosh is maturing quite a bit…..I was thinking even before he wrote it that “I know some women that are like that…and they’re all married”. Also ditto on the family women. The only family girls I’ve met who build up any kind of online following are the ones who run “Army Wife” blogs….which are noxious in their own right.

      1. I started laughing at his list of questions. I’m sure he means them seriously, but the folly of even asking our pedunda-driven doe eyef dears these qs is highly amusing… therefore they should be asked.

        1. It’s a very good list. There are actually two I’d add: asking how they feel about divorce and how they feel about contraception will catch almost all of the “religious” ones who think that the Church’s rules about sex don’t apply to them.

        2. I married a conservative Catholic girl from Poland…she is pretty cool…

  7. At the core of it, AWALT. However, from what I’ve seen she is one of the more red pilled ones out there regarding anti-feminism, very liberal and pro-trans etc though but usually clued up regarding SJWs and gender ideologues.
    Is it all for attention? Possibly. It might be unpopular but in a way it’s beneficial to have popular female anti-feminist/SJWs. Nothing pisses them off more than a woman going off the reservation.

    1. Try bringing a foreign babe ON the reservation, that’ll chap their collective asses!

  8. Women crave for attention. I repeat, crave for attention. This is the truth of the matter and it does not matter how they pursue this objective, they will seek it by any means. Whether it is taking pictures of themselves with cardboards stating “I don’t need feminism” or making videos of themselves, showing how much they “care” for mens rights, the end result is the exact same- seek attention. It is what essentially drives their character to seek some form of false validation in order to compensate for their miserable lives.
    As many can tell, while I have been critical towards the usual radical left wing feminists and the ridiculous antics that they pull, at the same time, I have noticed this recent trend of so many women claiming to be “conservative” and how they stand against everything that is polarising and opposing towards their conservative values. The reality is that all of this, is simply another gimmick, designed to attract the attention of where the new niche is, which in this case, is the rise of the men’s movements in the form of the manosphere. I simply find it insulting and quite embarrasing to find so many women now claiming that feminism is wrong for them. In other words, “feminism was so 90s. Time to find the new fad.” If anyone who takes the time to research these matters, will conclude that mens issues are serious and cannot be shown in the light of attention seeking that today’s modern women desire.
    As I have mentioned on numerous occasions, men account for the vast majority of suicides, unemployed and homeless. But will any of these so called female “mens rights advocates” do anything to raise awareness of this issue in a legitimate manner, without having to take stupid pictures of themselves with a piece of cardboard? Probably not. Which is what I truly believe that this trend, and I repeat, trend, is simply what it is- a desire to exploit a serious area of study and issues pertaining to men’s rights in a ridiculous attempt to glorify their vanity. Ridiciculous and is precisely the reason why I will never take these fake imposters any light of seriousness.

  9. Exactly. My comment on this subject from 15 years ago at the Men’s Activism forum: Feminist Allies? (archived by Rob Feddrs in 2010). Brief excerpt:
    I’m not in the cheering section for such women as Christina Hoff Sommers. Sure, she makes more sense than most women these days, but she still thinks as a woman. “Who stole feminism?” (Title of her recent book) Nobody stole feminism; it never was anything else. Its true nature has become apparent as it has been allowed space to show itself. Restraint is the key; with it, we have human beings and civilization, without it we are overdeveloped apes living in chaos.

  10. Regardless of whether or not they are genuine, bringing Yoko Ono into male spheres of discussion always leads to infighting and bullshit.

    1. Don’t know if you remember Tales From the Crypt, but they had an episode that dealt with the situation. The wife causes a lot of infighting within a rock band and she starts threatening to be the manager for the guitarist and starting a solo act for him. Eventually the band leader has enough of the woman and bashes her skull in, wife of his best friend be damned. Of course, being Tales From the Crypt, his tattoo comes to life and attacks him.

    3. Funny stuff-I used to call my brother’s ex-girflriend ‘Yoko’ because she was an absolute smarmy bitch that ruined the dynamic my brother and I had; I sensed something off about her and was vindicated spectacularly as she made my brother miserable. I wanted to karate chop her in the windpipe but unfortunately did not get to enjoy that but suffice to say I am glad that cancer is gone.

    4. Traditionally in Thailand women were not allowed to step foot in a boxing ring because the fighters believed it brought bad mojo and more of them would be seriously injured in their matches.

      1. In the old navy, it was considered taboo to have a woman on board a fighting ship as she would bring bad luck.

    1. They have no place outside the house without being attached to my arm.

  12. Some years back Dr Tara Palmatier ran a blog “Shrink for Men” that did provide information and support for recent red-pillers who didn’t have the ability to grasp what was happening to them.
    GirlWritesWhat has provided some deep analysis of female nature and historical hypergamy. I think she is the real deal. Two other Canadians are JudgyBitch, and FeminismLOL’s Diana Davidson.
    Until they reveal and betray, I don’t think it would serve the alt-right/MRM to dump them.

  14. Yeah, I had similar thoughts about some of the anti-feminist chicks I’ve seen on YouTube. Women think and act like women, regardless of what they say.

  15. You have hit it on the head. Just because you are anti type 1 feminist, doesn’t mean you are anti type 2 feminist.
    Women have the anatomy and the rest to be mothers, and their virginity was protected by the same Patriarchy – as the way they expressed respect to the women.
    But “liberal” isn’t qutie accurate, nor is “cuckservative”. They want the amoral free-market, free-enterprise career path so they can be financially, socially, and otherwise “independent”. Men can be independent and still have families. Women have to carry and breastfeed babies. That’s really inconvenient.
    There is some strange quasi-equallity advocated that cannot be shattered by reason or evidence. Women, after bearing and raising children can have careers and that was a very important and strong pillar of the culture. Victorian Women of maturity would fix problems.
    There were a few women that decided to reject the Mommy track and have careers and turn into spinsters.
    Feminists – even these variants – think “you can have it all”. It is biologically, mathematically, physically, and temporally impossible to do so. Monty hall calls around 20 and says choose door number 1 which has a career and optional hookups and barrenness, or door number 2 which means you will find a good man (perhaps not exciting) and will be a good wife and mother.
    Such is unconscious, and there is the problem that the men encourage or enable the bad behavior. If the choice was clearly madonna or whore, and men would show contempt of the latter (before or during seduction) it might be different.
    The most evil feminist lie is that whores can turn into madonnas after some unknown process. Madonnas can turn into whores on short notice. But as long as men fail to devalue whores/sluts, women will continue to play games.

    1. indeed.
      I find a certain contradiction in this website, perhaps by different authors, but still.
      Some authors keep glorifying and encouraging the game, going as far as calling those who don’t game as losers who don’t know how to game.
      Its clear those authors do not do their duty into devaluing whores, as you describe, since they use their services.
      For me, the conservative approach, and the game approach cannot reconciliate (I am talking about men), which is one of the reasons why I don’t take this website and MGTOW serious: Because of their contradictory preaching of conservatism and game.
      I believe as a group, we should pursue the ultimate goal we want to accomplish and not glorify our escapes. If we do glorify that, which as necessary as it might be under the circunstances, its never the right thing to do, then, the menosphere is profane in essence.

      1. I agree with you and my main split where I cannot support RooshV is specifically this.
        The “Patriarchy”, at least in the Christendom form which gave us Western Civilization protected, defended, encouraged virginity and motherhood (mostly women, however men had trouble losing virginity without corresponding women similarly willing to do so).
        I’m not sure how serious to take such. There are MGTOWs who aren’t low-status but are Christian (or hold to the W-Civ standards). I should also note “conservatism” has been reduced to “cuckservatism”, so if you mean traditional roles these days you must say so specifically. Semantics are melting and have not refrozen.
        In a reversal, it is now up to Men to be the gatekeepers of sex, to remain virgin until marriage, and fulfill their roles as providers and protectors for a large family. That is a necessary but not sufficient condition.
        The failure is identified in the article in that women can unilaterally destroy an otherwise stable marriage. It is not equality when either party can destroy something as destruction and construction aren’t equal.

  16. My mom is traditional, I text her every other day and tell her how much I love her. I tell her what an awesome mom she was for taking care of me and my family. She brought a feminine energy that only a traditional female who embraces her position could bring to a traditional family. She’s awesome. She has an ability that no feminist could dream of having and for that reason she is superior to feminists. My mom is an amazing woman and she will hear that from me nearly every day for the rest of her life. You have any idea what she feels when I tell her that? From her only son? She’s happy.

  17. Real women stay out of politics and these dumb issues.
    My litmus test for closet feminists is to use the word “cunt” around them or around their social media. If they flip out: feminist. When a woman cannot refer to another woman as a cunt, especially when that other woman is truly a cunt, that means the “sisterhood” still have a foothold and thus the woman tested needs to be written off.
    I left an organization with such women “higher up” and when asked I gave the exact answer I just wrote. Nobody disagrees with me.
    It’s amazing when you find out how many “conservative” groups have such women running things. And that’s why they fail. That’s why we still get a lot of cucking in the conservative movement. Send the women home and let men with real leadership skills run things and there will be progress.

    2. It’s well known women are incapable of leading, and the few women are considered as such usually have men who are nothing more than strong arm orbiters.

    3. On a side note, I’ve never understood the western reaction to cunt. Even more than fuck, it’s like the one word that thou shall not say, according to the gatekeepers.
      Meanwhile, these fucking cunty hypocrites think it’s perfectly acceptable to call someone a dick or a cock.

      1. Cunt is hilarious, unless some dude is yelling at you “you’re a cunt”, words are all meaningless without context. Vocal inflection is what makes that word completely harmless or harmful. Cunt is just a hilarious other term for vagina, making a huge production about it just takes away from legitimate problems and wastes everyone’s time.
        Could you imagine how much time could be saved if people didn’t throw fits about the usage of words, when they can easily be misinterpreted?

    4. Most women have never looked it up in the dictionary and that is testable scientifically.

  18. Roosh spat the definition of worthless whore so succinctly, “female urge of sleeping with whomever they want and having complete control over their lives to pursue useless college degrees and degenerate behaviors. ”
    They arent all bad, but when left to their own decision making process, they define being your own worst enemy.

  19. “Bottomless pit of narcissism and white knight enablers..” 15 years later the pendulum might swing the other way, by that time I’ll be 50.

  20. I agree, these anti-feminists want all the perks and privileges that feminism gives them but they want nothing to do with the crazy label. That’s the only difference between the two.
    Traditional women and anti-feminists usually say men are protctors and providers and it’s our duty to take care of the fairer sex. Yet they themselves don’t seem to see the irony in that they are failing in their biological imperative to propagate the species by wanting to ride the cock carousel for as long as possible. And using men as ATMs for their own benefits rather than their offspring.

    1. That’s why you should always keep your wallet in your pocket and use them for ATM ( both abreviations) instead

  21. I can’t turn my patriarchal war-wagon on a dime. It takes a while for things to shift and change.
    First anti-feminists, then perhaps traditionalists in another 10 years.

  22. Feminists and antifeminists are just trying to fight against biology at this point. Women are meant to settle down and have children, it is the purpose for the female sex. And with that comes a responsibility. Both Feminists and Anti-Feminists seem to be fighting against this. They want to be sluts, but not have the consequences. There is a reason why traditional social and political rules were set up the way they were; women today are ruining what was in the best interest of both men and women.

  23. And the first broadside in a war we don’t need to fight is fired…
    Only a fool fails to utilize useful idiots to achieve his own ends. People like Andrea Hardie and Karen Straughn are useful allies in converting more men from mainstream America.
    Most men won’t jump into RoK immediately. Typically, the average conservative will gradually approach RoK. As Lincoln said, “One war at a time.”
    Then again, half this site wants me gone anyway, because I don’t hate the Jews, aren’t arming for the upcoming “Race War”, and worst of all, aren’t using enough Kratoum.

    1. I wouldn’t consider it a broadside, but more of a “We don’t need you” declaration.

      1. I’d agree we don’t need them, but it is passing up an opportunity.
        Alphas like Frank Underwood or Francis Urquhart are always looking for ways to use useful people, not ways to push away potential allies.
        Note: I am also curious, Roosh has appeared with Karen Straughn before. I wonder why he’s had this change of heart.
        Unless this whole article was directed at only certain, disingenuous, parts of the female anti-feminist crowd who have attacked Roosh himself.

  24. Am I the only one to notice the flagrant contradiction?
    You sell guys book teaching them how to get and fuck countless women. Then, you accuse women of sleeping around.
    If they’re fucking, they’re sluts. If they ain’t fucking, they are man hating feminazis.
    No feminazi is as man hating as you, who hate ALL of them. Manazi.
    Or is it that, just like those hags you write about, you are past your prime, an aging lonely burnout, and some people are starting to see through your pack of bullshit preying on male insecurity?

    1. I don’t know about “countless”, I mean I can count pretty high for my age and also I mean well, calculators. Just saying.

      1. and isn’t this cool this way? why should all women become desperate family chasers and stop providing pussy for fun? it would be terrible.

        1. Well not all men are looking for a family so there will always be the disenfranchised women that will get on the carousel. Thru Game, Roosh has evolved as have a lot of us to recognize a woman not worth a relationship vs one who is and Feminizes still fuck, but they will make life difficult with their bs or say you raped them. We aren’t exactly finding the “take home to mom” women when we game at places where game works best. Not so much a contradiction as it is a shift of policy. Game is still relevant but some men don’t want to do it forever and Game still works in keeping the wife in line, what with the degenerate society we live in and all. A lot of temptation for wifes and good wiving women to stray to the dark side of this crazy western society we call home.

        2. The problem is that they all become family chasers at some point. Every single one of them. The whole issue between the genders today is that women want to provide pussy for fun, as you say, with no forethought about how their behavior affects her ability to be a good wife and mother.
          If women were content with being sluts until death, or if nature allowed it, sluttery wouldn’t be a problem. But they all want off the carousel one day and men have to pick up the pieces. Many men here have had to do it and they are rightly pissed off about it.
          Lastly, women not slutting aaround and being family chasers would not be terrible, it would he great. Imagine millions of feminine, unused women looking for a man to faithfully raise a family with. Sounds like heaven to me.

        3. No woman past her prime can do anything to force you into marriage, so what every single one wants is their own problem and you only pick up the pieces if you are willing to.

        4. …Or, like an orchard with marvellous apples…where You are allowed to pick only one and make yourself happy with the fact for the rest of your life…;))
          Unless you are Mormon, or Moslem…or a harem-owning war-chiftain, of course.
          ;)))
          Heaven, indeed.)))))

    2. Your first mistake is your assumption that men and women are equals.
      Of course they aren’t. Western society gave women the freedom that they wanted to fuck around and look what’s happened. Look at the record number of divorces, mentally and emotionally damaged children, autistic spectrum children, and mass importation of animal-like races.

      1. And, obviously, men never initiate said divorces and said traumas, just women. :))
        And now let us examine a male-dominated world, such as the Muslim world. It is full of anger, vengeance, crime, abuse and inflexibility. Is it better than ours? I doubt it.
        And yes, I would prohibit any form of immigration. Let them stay in their own fucking countries and deal with their own shit.

        1. That’s a very bad point to make considering their ‘religion’ retards any intellectual development and they are also the product of a millennia+ of rampant inbreeding.

        3. 70% of divorces are initiated by women.
          Immigration shouldn’t be halted, but it should be filtered and contain limits on coloured people.

        4. So, the rest of 30% are initiated by men. Do you think two people should stay together if they fail to make each other happy anymore?

        5. The reason for the increasing unhappiness is feminism. It’s not simply a coincidence that divorce rates have heavily increased since the major feminist movements of the 20th century. Women are told to compete with men in the workplace and have no regrets for breaking their families. It’s a destructive narrative that only thrives in selfie-soaked denial.

        6. And feminism itself appeared of too much happiness? 🙂
          Or is it because some people are naturally competitive, regardless of gender and they should not be denied their chance – also regardless of gender. I prefer to consider merit and competence first, and gender afterwards.
          Sure, there are tons of dumb females out there, just as there are tons of dumb useless males. And I must admit I prefer a smart female to a dumb male at any point. She comes with the bonus of a pleasant, sweet company.

  25. I privately was thinking this but good to have it aired out loud as well. Most of the anti feminist women are basically just doing it for attention seeking in much the same way as tumblrinas and patreon seeking fem-trogs with their alphabet list of mental illnesses wanting validation.
    We tend to stay silent on the better looking ones because well atleast they’re not screeching like banshees at our side. But when push comes to shove, as it did with the global meetups, how many antifeminist women were there to support roosh’s right to freedom of assembly? A handful at most.
    But such is the nature of these kind of movements, you’re inevitably going to get fans and hangers on which are just glorified attention seekers.
    If we start castigating our side for minor differences we’re no better than the sjw scum on the other side.
    So tolerate them, but also recognise they’re fair weather allies, and as such put their value on lower rung than you would others.

    1. Simply, they’re sill females meaning they will abandon their stance at the first sign of opposition or temptation. If an alpha comesvalong and says he wants a feminist wife, she will cut her hair and play the role.

      1. An Alpha will never ever ask for a feminist wife. Even a libtard Alpha like dicaprio knows to only fuck Victoria’s Secret models and ditch them if they get too clingy

      2. No alpha would want that, he might just say it to prove he could get her to do it. It wouldn’t be long before she was distracted by a shiny new cock, molded her appearance, thoughts, behaviors to it’s owner’s desires and the hypergamy cycle to continue.

    2. “I’m not a feminist” translation, “I don’t have short hair, I’m not butchy and I’m not an angry protester.”

  26. That is not very logical. I am against feminism – as it goes today – but I do not agree with all your ideas. Why would I need to agree with your ideas in order to validate myself being against feminism? The very word implies something you are against, leaving the free choice what to be for instead.

  27. Female in-group preference is very strong! They also like to virtue signal to other women and get attention from men.
    These YT women are simply profeteur of the situation caused by the elites and their feminist slaves. Other examples of profiteurs include Gavin McInnes and Milo Yanopolis; they will change sides if the feminist media becomes more influential.

  30. Counterexamples – Ayn Rand, a self proclaimed ‘Man-worshipper’ and Camille Paglia who as famously observed “As I drove across the Verrazano Bridge, I thought, ‘Men built this.’
    As I looked towards the New York skyline, I thought, ‘Men built that.’
    If women were in charge of culture, we would still be living in caves.
    Well-decorated caves, but caves.” A source for the Paglia quote, and a useful site in general http://news.mensactivism.org/?q=node/13074

      1. But there are others. Christina Hoff Sommers. I think we simply need to do with any one who claims to be opposed to feminism the same vetting we apply to food – check the ingredients. I believe many anti-feminist females would indeed pass the ‘2 out of 5’ criterion proposed by the author here.

    2. NOOOOO!!!
      Look at Rand’s actions, not her words. She refused to have children, and she apparently underwent at least one abortion. She married a weak man whom she could control and cuckold when Nathan Blumenthal entered her life. Because she never transitioned to motherhood during her biological window, she stayed in dating mode well past menopause in a futile quest for “romantic” fulfillment with Blumenthal, which made her bitter, hysterical and generally ridiculous when she realized that Blumenthal wouldn’t play along with her delusions after he found a younger woman during her peak fertility.
      And she promoted the whole agenda of feminist degeneracy: Women’s education and careers; women’s sexual freedom, abortion, contraception and sterility; open marriages, affairs and divorce; and she traveled to the other side of the world, unaccompanied by a chaperone, to ”find herself” when she got a visa to leave the Soviet Union to “visit relatives” in the United States.
      Then she gamed the immigration laws so she could stay here permanently, which many of today’s conservatives generally disapprove of when other immigrants do that.
      She does NOT offer a good role model for the kind of women tradition-minded patriarchs want.

      1. The only well known female I think would be an example of a proper woman is Nancy Reagan.

      2. Two separate issues. I agree her personal life is not “a good role model for the kind of women tradition-minded patriarchs want.”. But, she is an intellectual ally for those who are role models, and for those who seek such women. I can think of many artists whose work was brilliant and personal, dreadful.

  31. “Being a feminist and holding an “I need feminism” sign used to be a great way to get attention online without having to show tits, but with thousands of girls doing it, any one girl no longer stands out. The practice of anti-feminism by females is therefore an alternative strategy to getting attention. Consider that a girl who is a 6 out of 10 can now make a Youtube video denouncing feminism and easily get 25,000 views. It’s also a way for girls to show men that they are “hip,” “dangerous,” and “cool.” Men online are so thirsty and lonely that they lavish these girls with attention because they’re “just like one of the guys.””
    Lol that paragraph is spot on.

    1. “Consider that a girl who is a 6 out of 10 can now make a Youtube video denouncing feminism and easily get 25,000 views” Modern women are a bit like Einstein’s famous remark about the moon in relation to quantum physics- do they, like the moon, only exist when someone is observing them/paying attention to their performances?
      Without a masculine frame of reference modern women seem to fall into the void of ever greater self-indulgent narcissism.

  32. It’s simply wanting to be one of “the boys” and getting a bit of hard edge kudos from it in the eyes of the men they want to screw. None of these dames would ever iron my shirts right, darn my socks in the midday sun, and in general take any responsibility for running a home and family.
    Sure they have ugly tattoos of serpents with fangs and their asses and they smoke joints and slurp their buds straight out the cans like the deadbeat dudes they hang around. It still doesn’t make them lady-like, respectable and feminine, they’re just the same as their sister feminist equality merchants who think men and women are the same thing. Their conceit, despite the tattoos is in plain sight for any man to see.

  33. The only true anti-feminist I ever dated was a pretty hardcore Christian. If it wasn’t for the fact I like sex too much probably would have married her. She was gorgeous and feminine. Her dad ruled the house like it was his kingdom. Her mom and sister were submissive. She HATED masculine women to the core. Damn now that I think about her I wonder what she is up to these days many years later. Maybe I will text her and find out….

  34. Exactly when does a woman do something that isn’t motivated by a natural predisposition to attention seeking? Even in the traditional family women often sought the attention of otherwise toiling or thinking husbands.

    1. When she is old, menopausal and disgusting. That’s when women give up on seeking any male attention because they know it’ll be a cold day in hell before they’ll ever get any.

      1. I am older than most of you and so I know a great many more women who are old, menopausal, post menopausal, and disgusting. Let me tell you the drive for seeking male attention never ends.

  36. As much as I hate radical Islam, at least they have their women under control more or less.

    1. Throwing acid in their face because some guy looks at them the wrong way. Yeah, totally under control…

    2. if i wanted to date a woman in a garbage bag who doesn’t say stupid shit, id go to a morgue.

    3. Masculine men do not beat their women to oblivion or dressed them with burkas to stop other men to rape them… Muslim men are not confident masculine men, far from it. Their are grosso modo, insecure and psychopathic creatures. We have to stop equating masculinity with Islam, pretending that in the West, we cant have that.

    1. If you meet her, you should ask her the questions from above in the “anti-feminist test” section to make sure.

  38. Lauren Southern? Erin Pizzey? Christina Hoff Sommers? Karen Straughan? (Blaire White, sorta?) Maybe Lauren Southern because she’s hot and its part of a complex, shared by both men and women, of shitting on those in your own gender and she wants male attention.

    1. Sommers has openly expressed her first wave feminist views. Now she operates more like an MRA. She doesn’t need male attention, and she knows if. Look at her, she has more wrinkles than my ballsack. I want to believe southern is not a fake, but I leave that for others to decide.

  39. I’m a big fan of Judgeybitch…so I must disagree with your assessment

  40. The “anti-feminists” are the equivalent of the “moderate Muslims” who would have you believe Islam is compatible with civilization and Muslims are capable of being an asset rather than a danger to a civilized society. No it isn’t, and no they aren’t.
    At least in principle a man can utterly reject Islam and all its works and all its empty promises, and start fighting twice as hard to rid the world of Islam as one fought for it. A woman is about as able to reject her nature and become something benign as is a poisonous snake or a gonococcus.
    Woman is not a lost soul to be brought back to God. Woman is a plague that men will, one day, use their ingenuity to eradicate once and for all.

  41. “While they may come across as genuine, these female infiltrators are mostly attention whoring to a male audience. They don’t want to change the world—they just want you to look at them.”
    Roosh youre sounding like Sandman. Im not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying you sound like Sandman.

    1. I don’t agree. Funny thing – sandman is the equivalent of shoeonhead but for men.

  42. Women are only designed for the things…nurturing, cooking and sack draining. Forget the cleaning part…far more aggravation showing her how to do it compared to doing it the right way by yourself. Anything else, take with a grain of salt.

  44. I think the original anti-feminists are legitimate. They took far more crap than attention. There was work involved to research topics and history. But lately I see other links from their stuff. It’s of low quality and seems to be shallow rehashes. Perhaps those are the ones you speak of. I find karen straughan’s stuff to often be interesting and worth listening to. The ones that followed after her, well they leave a lot to be desired. So do the ones affiliated with conservative think tanks and such.

  45. Roosh is right. I know a woman who says “yes” to all 5 questions. But as he predicted, she is indeed a married, stay at home mom, who happily submits to her masculine husband – me.
    My mamma didn’t raise no dummy!

  46. Great read, im glad somebody brought more attention to this subject.
    I remember a little after finishing high school, a close buddy of mine dated a girl he crushed on since middle school. He was very outspoken with his hatred towards feminists and sjws, and she was somewhat of a tomboy in terms of personality.
    Their relationship started when she threw herself at him after getting dumped. During the honeymoon phase, he was convinced she was his unicorn, just because she acted like “one of the guys” by laughing at our harsh viewpoints towards modern liberalism and feminism. Deep down i knew it was all an act, she was selling herself as a rational female to give herself the appeal of being wife material.
    Naturally my friend got angry with me when i warned him about getting deceived. But after just two months of dating, she started hitting him with shit tests left and right, eventually causing my friend to evacuate when he finally woke up to the sham.
    Moral of the story is that women know how to get what they want out of unsuspecting guys. Being an open feminist today just gives off strong vibes that a woman is some intransigent bitch who will ruin your life with a false rape charge. This is why women are jumping on the new anti sjw bandwagon. Theyre attracting a new wave of white knights, and this will eventually cause the movement to collapse when political correctness gets involved.

  47. I answered yes to all 5 questions and of course, I am married with a family.
    I will however add that bottom tier, marginally attractive women aka 5/10 like this pathetic shoeonhead character are on a mission to take whatever kind of male attention comes at them, that’s why they lap up being a “legend” among the beta numale whiteknight community, they feel like a king among the repulsive losers.They think being queen of the gross dudes is an accomplishment because to them, and their socially pathetic disposition on the rung of society, it is an accomplishment–hey a bunch of guys want me errybody! Never mind that the guys are fecking hideous and disgusting.
    Women compete for attention according to their sexual market rank. Shoeonhead knows she’s shit tier so she hangs outs with, dates, and sleeps with shit tier dudes. Women know precisely where they rank at all times–to know a woman is to know what kind of male company she keeps. Shoeonhead is a loser, and she knows it.

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  50. Globalists and most libertarians would answer no to the questions on the anti-feminist test, showing that globalists support a lot of the phony libertarian agenda that they throw up as an alleged alternative to the the offerings by America’s two dominant parties. And this makes sense, considering that American libertarianism derives from the writings of three damaged, sterile women in the last century who couldn’t form stable marriages, so they envisioned “freedom” to mean liberation from motherhood and male authority.
    Globalists just play libertarians for suckers, in other words, by allowing women’s sexual freedom because it supports their own goals. By contrast, if you ask globalists about abolishing the current financial system and replacing it with “sound money,” as libertarians advocate, they just dismiss that as crazy-talk and not worthy of consideration.
    A libertarianism that offered a real alternative to the current mess would emphasize the traditional patriarchy implicit in Roosh’s test so that, for example, women could inherit sound money without having to pay an inheritance tax; but they would face legal and social sanctions if they slept around. No one with any status advocates this kind of libertarianism that I know of.

    1. The ancient Hindus had some hard core patriarchy. With regards to a woman’s inheritance, a widow would be put to death upon the death of her husband. From around 500bc, the practice of ‘Sati’ was performed where a newly widowed woman would cerimoniously be tied and burned at the stake during her deceased husband’s funeral. ”When he goes, SHE GOES WITH HIM!” The villagers would gather wood and make a pile. The widow would dress up and IN SHE WENT. This was a great incentive for the woman to do her best to take care of her husband. She wouldn’t dare feed him a bad chicken dinner thinking she could then run off with his estate. Noooo! She made damn sure not to betray him. She alerted him of danger and witheld nothing. She made sure he lived a long and prosperous life.
      British colonialists eventually criminalized ‘Sati’ in the mid 1800’s and Nepal eventually slowed and stopped the practice in 1920. There’s a hell of a lot to learn from the Hindus about patriarchy.
      Nepalese Hindus still practice ‘chhaupadi’ or menstrual isolation, something Scandinavians and especially Swedes seriously need to consider. Nordic’s high dairy and pork intake makes their women’s ragging ‘pee’ smell like a crypt of death. I once smelled a women’s restroom in a Helsingki bus station (men’s was broken) and Jesus God Almighty the funk was unbearable. Nothing in the chitterling eating southern US could even compare. The smell was like kryptonite to a man. I didn’t want to approach a female anywhere around there until I got away to fresh air.

    2. I’m a libertarian and I answered yes to all questions.
      But I’m glad you’re here to do your weekly smear on libertarianism though.

  51. “Are you against homosexual marriage?”
    “Do you believe its ideal for a woman to remain a virgin until she gets married?”
    “Do you believe that its best for children to be raised by a stay-at-home mother?”
    “Do you believe a woman’s choices should be constrained by her husband, tribe, or church with the intention of doing what’s best for her?”
    “Do you believe it’s wrong for a young girl to find herself by traveling around the world and trying new experiences?”
    Excellent list. This site really makes Arab and Muslim girls like – I am not crazy. We keep to our tradition and everyone calls us “you ISIS” bla bla for not whoring around. Only one I disagree with partially: ““Do you believe a woman’s choices should be constrained by her husband, tribe, or church with the intention of doing what’s best for her?” Doesn’t work that way- woman’s choices are constrained by her church/mosque, etc. first, then men must be approved by her father. She must be always respectful of her husband. Only a woman with no self confidence – from partying and not following religion – would want a domineering abusive man playing clown game. A traditional woman is not her husband’s slave, but answers to God first, has a mature relationship of mutual respect with her husband. Girls not ready for that shouldn’t be dating.
    Thank you. I do have a channel with my husband on youtube to bring attention to the war on Yemen and for news – also discussing Houthis’ involvement in the leftist feminist movement – Islamist and feminist ties does bring attention to the Houthi lobby. These days for my other work as a designer I have models take pictures in my designs, not myself. I was laughing about ShoeOnHead and a few other “anti-feminists” who are just atheist secular girls hating on SJWs for attention. They see I have traditional family values, a traditional family and hate on that. I love this article because I can relate. The problem with women, without a religion with a sparkly church or mosque and beautiful rituals and services, and commitment to it, it’s too easy to lapse and do the harmful long term but short term fun thing on TV that your friends are trying.

    1. It’s good that you arab muslim women are traditional although it is irrelevant for us you see, we need indo european western women to be that.
      The fact that you people are traditional is something we know is good and the reason why people call you “isis” is for that very reason, the fact that you are traditional makes you stronger than us and thats what makes people mad, it makes it easier for you to replace and take over like you did to the indo europeans of turkey and persia, remember that historically speaking you are our ancestral enemy and your existance and our existance have been at odds with eachother since times of antiquity and nothing has changed in that respect.
      Your traditionalism is our weakness one could say.
      Maybe we should be inspired by you but we will never accept you (i speak for many westerners here but not all since many here are racial and cultural relativists)
      Also the strength of muslim and arab traditionalism is illusory since it’s only relative to our current ideologies of weakness (liberalism and egalitarianism) if we adhered to our traditions your existance in the west would be redundant and you would be sent back to were you belong, so realize that this very weakness that you observe in the west is the very reason you are here.

      1. Too bad your men were such cucks that you allowed jewish socialist athiests to strip you of your religion and masculinity to the point we are foreign to you. We are just like Christians were 100 years ago. I am married to a Ukrainian. I belong with my husband, sorry pal.
        I think my traditionalism is nothing special. You guys like to listen to jewish athiests and prefer to accept them and Cuck Rogen who got cucked by Cernovich of Gorilla Mindset. My traditionalism is just a mirror to your past. Saudi Arabia modelled itself after Victorian England. I am Yemeni so I am more moderate. If you maintained your traditions, I’d still be with my Ukrainian husband. What you need is to stop hating on us, and get your women to copy us.
        The more you hate on us, the more your women are SJWs and drunk sluts. So hate on our terrorists, help us fight them. Myself, I am a fashion designer, a business woman. I need more clients. Traditional women dress up and buy pretty stuff. The more anti-feminist anti-SJW women you have, the more money I make, the larger my potential client base.
        What happened in the past happened. Now we can work together and make indo European women love patriarchy and traditional. My huge fear is indo European women don’t have kids, and I am not comfortable with white people disappearing who built all the cool things I like, I feel like there is some sort of a globalist feminist white genocide- and I’d like to reverse that, white people should be having happily families, getting married having kids like Ukrainians.

        1. You don’t seem to understand the situation.
          Your assumption of familiarity and cooperation between us european traditionalists and you muslim arabs is incorrect.
          There is no hate towards islam nor arabs from my part, only indifference since your concern is not my concern and vice versa, our problems and solutions are ours and ours alone and have in all actuallity nothing to do with you even though you mistakenly believe otherwise.
          But i give you right that the greater threat is the degenerate jewish “intellectuals” and not arabs, although neither arabs nor jews should come into consideration for any right minded aryan man or woman and their lives.
          The problems between the white man and the white woman is not your concern so dont put your nose where it doesn’t belong.
          http://33.media.tumblr.com/ccea7a5711217eba1bf331b918024aba/tumblr_nb3hg4XH0c1tec7r3o4_1280.jpg

        2. Funny picture.
          🙂 Even though the norse demi-god’s arms could be puny, too.
          Saturday nights in Stockholm prove it.
          ;))))

        3. Google “iron pill” for more its pretty good lulz, also a lot of truth to it 🙂

        5. The problem with the white man and white woman is my concern because when they fight, I am blamed by jewish intellectuals and whites attack me instead of dealing with the damaging effect of jewish atheist intellectuals on the relationship between white men and white women. Arab Muslims don’t consider Arab Christians degenerate. The problem with Palestinians is that most of them are socialist, and more Israelis are religious, so while in 1948 the Palestinians may have been the more moral party, today it’s not the case. Also instead of uniting, many so called “red-pilled” people repeat Sam Harris’s and Christopher Hitchens, jewish atheists’ talking points on how religion is bad in a rude non-constructive way …. instead of asking how much of that movement was done for the interests of Askenazi athiest jews, and how much of it was done in the interests of white man.
          As Arabs, we had many refugees, the only ones we had a problem with were the Palestinian ones and Kurds because of their socialism. Muslims living in Europe sadly mistake Arab Christians as degenerate when they join ISIS much to the chagrin of local Muslims who fight them. Arab Christians are strong moral people with traditional family values – except for some Syriac and Maronites who got a bit westernized in the wrong way. Syriac got too socialist, Maronite got the French pansy complex. Orthodox, Copt, Chaladeon, Greek Catholic, are all fine people.
          Personally, I believe that for the west to be healthy and not cause problems for others, the Christian white man and his family unit, religion and interests should stand at the center of the society, and we should respect the Christian man who created the world we live in, brought food on our table and protects us with his sacrifice in the military and police. I support Russian laws banning criticism of Christianity in the west, and changing the education to be more pro-white patriotic, because unconfident people hurt not only themselves but others.
          The Muslim you push in the cartoon… this is the European “Muslim” who isn’t even considered Muslim in the Middle East, the sad damaging effects of atheist militant jewish intellectualism. I don’t have kids because I am afraid of them turning into that here. If Christianity, patriarchy, the white Christian man and his family was at the center of the society, minorities wouldn’t be afraid of diminished parental influence and their kids joining gangs or doing bad things when they grow up.
          ” our problems and solutions are ours and ours alone”. Then why aren’t they solved. You don’t even have your own media. This site was created by an ethnically Muslim man Roosh V, and that’s the closest you have to your own media. Since when do white people go out there and take a pay cut and a risk and create their own media? Immigrants in Ottawa, Canada create 80% of businesses. You rely on jewish atheists for your media.
          The problem between white man and white woman is my concern, because I am living my life doing my business, and a bunch of people hate me because jewish atheists made me a scapegoat or distraction instead of telling their socialist feminist cousins to stop pushing their unpopular demeaning shit down white people’s throats and show some respect to people who took them in as war and poverty engulfs the rest of the world.
          My issue with atheist jewish tribalism is that instead of self-policing and telling their cousins to shut up about their feminism and show the white Christian man who gave them a home some respect …. they push the blame on Muslims, Mexicans, blacks, and cover up for their cousins. When Roman Polasnki, who survive concentration camps, a Hollywood jewish producer raped a 13 year old girl, they all covered for him, used the girl as a scapegoat and attacked the girl.
          We are just trying to survive and live our life, so the relationship between white women & white men are my concern if Muslims get blamed for it. Also, on campus, socialist athiest jews try to egg Muslims to hate whites, especially Christians, and hate on Israel and say anti-semetic things, then the right wing athiest jews go and publish how bad the naive Muslim students are and destroy their career. We figured this out and spoke to the jewish lobby, the right wing atheists and were like, we don’t want our kids in our community repeating the anti-semitic anti Israel racist crap and anti white racist crap socialist jews tell our kids. They did nothing and blame us. Jewish socialists hate Israel because Israelis are religious, and say very bad false out right lies. Then when Muslim kids repeat it, they sound like Hitler. Then they get blamed. When we go to study in a white Christian university, that’s the last thing we expect.
          The west is run by atheist jews, Christians are nobody in their own country, so we try to follow the rules where we move and it’s pretty hard when you don’t know who is the boss, the athiest socialists, their right wing atheist jewish racist cousins who cover up for them, or the white people they make fun of who are walked all over. Personally, I like religious jews, the ones in Yemen are good people. Maybe we can all get the religious ones to police their atheists, because their atheists have a good cop, bad cop team. You even see it in the Trump campaign, Muslims and Mexicans are blamed… but nothing is said about the jewish intellectuals that told them it’s the American way to walk over the white Christian man. So minorities respect the boss, the socialist atheist jewish feminist woman who gets to run the house because of white guilt, when the master of the house is really the white Christian man.
          Imagine you are a famous chef, really skilled, so you are invited to stay at a mansion, where you’ll have accommodations paid in Malibu, California near the beach. You are elated, you go and all the servants answer to a jewish athiest house guest woman who is the defacto boss. She is allowed to live there because she fled persecution. She makes fun of the white German guy who is the owner, who worked hard to build an business empire and the mansion. She bosses him around because of her “woman card” and “Holocaust guilt” card, reminds him how bad the Holocaust was every day and says “shouldn’t you feel ashamed”. She says “ewww Christians” and the poor church going Luthern tolerates it, nice guy. But she teaches servants and you to say Ewww Christians, and then his other jewish friend sees you and other servants who make fun of the master “wow, what terrible disrespectful staff you have, you have to stand up to your staff.”
          You are trying to fit in and please that refugee houseguest who makes the rules and when you don’t make fun of the house owner, she complains to him how there is “something weird with the chef”” and you can’t be trusted.. and it affects your job security. Instead of standing up to the houseguest, the German owner throws a tantrum at his staff. The staff are confused who is the boss, who invited them there. Be the boss of your own country and you will see the immigrants will behave and respect you. Stop feeling guilty for things you didn’t do like the Holocaust. I do think that yes the people behind the Holocaust should feel guilty… but three generations later enough is enough, let the white man be the master of his own house. This creates a healthy society. When the west decays, any decaying society like Syria becomes everyone’s problem. So the key is to prevent the west or any society from decaying so it doesn’t become our problem.
          I want to put the white Christian man, patriachy, his family, at the center of the west again, so we can all be spared from the problems of a decaying society. If you leave a corpse without burying it, the rot and disease can get people sick. That’s why in a warzone, even if it’s not your loved one’s body, if there is a corpse in the street that no one buries, and you can bury it, it’s important to do so. If decay didn’t spread, it would not be my business. Sadly it does. So, how can I help?

      2. what happened happened, now we are here, and should work together and get white girls to think being traditional is hot again. They want marriage but sabotage themselves through feminism. By stigmatizing Islam, the atheists stigmatize religion and tradition. Radical Islamism is merely SJWs from countries where people have religion and tradition – that’s why Muslims keep calling them “not Muslim”. When you see those who stigmatize Islam, those leading the charge have the same last names as those who stigmatize Christianity, promote feminism, multiculturalism, etc. If it weren’t for their project Roosh V wouldn’t be born, we wouldn’t be on this forum. We have to make do with what we have.
        French Canadian anthemn Lyrics from 100 years ago. Sounds more hard core than Muslim songs. Seriously guys, get the maginas out of your church, bring songs like “onward Christian soldiers marching onto war” back. Bring back masculinity in your church & patriarchy, and tradition. We are your past.
        Under the eye of God, near the giant river,
        The Canadian grows hoping.
        He was born of a proud race
        He will keep the honour of his flag.
        From his patron, the precursor of the true God,
        He wears the halo of fire on his brow.
        Enemy of tyranny
        But full of loyalty,
        He wants to keep in harmony,
        His proud freedom;
        And by the effort of his genius,
        Set on our ground the truth
        Let us know how to be a people of brothers,
        Under the yoke of faith.
        And repeat, like our fathers,
        The battle cry: “For Christ and King!”

    2. Very true on the “secular athiest part”. The difference with atheists in the manosohere/red pill is that I noticed an overwhelming majority still see a benefit for structured religion and moral tenets. That’s how you know the atheist part of the sphere is genuine. whereas the fake anti-feminist females are just attention seekers.

  52. A penetrating deconstruction of shape-shifting misfits from the Island of Lost Toys. Not an easy piece to write, just from a sentence construction standpoint alone. One obvious thing that nonetheless bears mentioning, just for perspective: In America (and other countries where western thought predominates) you cannot legislate morality. In this environment, every type of narcissistic bipolar feminist/anti-feminist doppelgänger seeks traction in the modern Cult of Self, and tries to stake a claim on the foreign shores of gender politics.
    Throughout my life I’m presented with endless evidence about how they would legislate morality so that it could conform to exactly what they wish to be true — and they’ll think it divinely feminine and mystical, they’ll call it an intuition you just couldn’t understand since you are male. You cannot win satisfactorily in this situation, where women derive primacy from the ether (perhaps as an end run since they aren’t earning top rank in the natural Darwinian gender hierarchy of life, etc.). Turns out that through their recent liberation in western culture women are as power hungry as most men, and plenty who are more so via their jealous obsessions with the male of the species — we who are by far more deadly and resourceful, among other attributes they do not convincingly possess in quantity. I think true equality means taking the moment to thoughtfully repackage their bullshit and return to sender, and offer them no safe quarter in the verbal sphere, no special chivalrous courtesies of a bygone Victorian era. Articles like this break down in detail some of the reasons why every man worth his salt does well to reassess the game in 2016, and constantly thereafter.

  53. Kinda like the women who join the military for patriotism. If they were real patriots they would be marrying early and having kids.

    1. At best, they’re incredibly lost souls. At worst, they’re giant sluts who crave the attention that comes from being 3 girls to 1000 guys.

  54. Age plays a big part in determining if a female ‘anti feminist’ is worthy. Any girl 15 yo or younger who identifies as ‘anti feminist’ has already rebuked the school brainwashing and shows promise as a future mother. She needs to practice her sewing like a demon. If she can make all of her own clothes, then she’s already miles ahead of the rest of the wasted girls who give blow jobs in the back of the school bus. Now these 30 yo ‘anti feminists’ likely didn’t make a single garment they’re wearing. Also playing with dolls is for girls practicing to be future mothers. A 30 yo woman playing with dolls is missing the boat by a few decades and a 30 yo ‘anti feminist’ is making the proclomation decades late too. It’s sad to see so many grown women acting like adults descending on a playground to learn what they appearantly missed.

  55. Men online are so thirsty and lonely that they lavish these girls with attention because they’re “just like one of the guys.”
    Why would a man want a woman that is just like one of the guys? If one wants a woman just like one of the guys one should probably just be………a fag.

  56. I can’t say that I’m glad for what happened to Corey L, but it did provide a much needed exposure to a long list of “conservative” twats needing to be outed. I’m glad he was able to get free of the bogus charges and seriously hope he is considering a lawsuit against everyone responsible for the defamation against him that ensued.
    In fact, the entire experience of Trump’s campaign has been one of the best cathartic political exercises yet. Now more than ever it’s clear which politicians, journalists and thought leaders are really serious about their purported conservative leaning views and who’s just in the game because it provides a steady career.

  57. I think the thesis of this article is incorrect. There is a gradation in anti-feminist beliefs. One need not be a conservative to be an anti-feminist. You could add to the list, for example, “should girls be allowed to go to school” or “should girls be allowed to read and write” or “should women be allowed to drive”. Very few women or men are that conservative, but like I said there’s a gradation. Feminism has jumped the shark, it has become so bizarre and the social justice warrior straight jacket so pernicious that I don’t doubt the sincerity of anti-feminist females at all. If you only accept anti-feminists that are as strict as you are you’re in for a lonely fight.

    1. Somebody is drunk on feminist kool-aid. Your comments are framed within the false assumptions of feminists.

  58. I have a visceral negative reaction to any woman who puts a priority on anything over serving either her parents or husband in keeping her family safe, healthy, and successful. If she prioritizes a career, education, online presence, ‘independence’, ‘fun’, or some other kind of non sense over her family she ought to be shamed. Unfortunately we live in a society that does the exact opposite. It’s up to real men to sway our women away from a life of degeneracy and poz, and toward a life of sanctity and family.

    2. I hope that Your words don’t reach far.
      Hell would hunger for whores if it were not so.
      ;))))

  59. Good article Roosh. Important and, in my opinion, true information that men need to be on the look out for.
    I equate the female anti-feminist as that girl who “totally is cool with going to the strip club with the guys.”
    These are the death throws of pathetic women.

    1. “These are the death throws of pathetic women.”
      Considering the hysterics over the last few years in many “special snowflake” groups, it seems contagious.

      2. I have brought a couple of women to strip clubs, at their request. They are usually just curious as to what goes on there. The universal response is, “What’s the big deal I am better looking than that.” My response to a friends fiancé that said that many years ago was, “Yes you are, but you’re not dancing naked on our table.”
        I have made it a policy for several decades to never go to strip clubs in the west. They are abusive to men and take advantage of the sexual wasteland that the west has become to rip men off. They tease and deny giving you blue balls while taking your money and laughing at you behind your back (or often in your face). In Asia it is another matter. The purpose there is to get you interested enough in the goods to order take out.

  60. I have mixed feelings about Roosh as I’ve expressed here before. The guy says that ideal women shouldn’t be sleeping around yet that’s what he goes on world tours to do. He should have put a ring on it, so to speak, a long time ago.
    I thought he was referring to anti-feminists who have been around for a while such as Cathy Young and even Warren Farrell. While they have been the best critics of anti-male feminism in past decades, the problem is they buy into the biggest myth of all that “equality” feminism can work. That without all the hate towards men, that somehow women can have workplace equality, voting rights and still get along with men.
    What we now see after the social experiment for a half century has taken place is that, and this is no exaggeration, 99% of women with professional incomes are uninterested in stay-at-home “liberated” men. Some will marry “down” by perhaps marrying a teacher who has local prestige in the community, or a handsome enlisted man in the army, but this has resulted in these exceptional men that working class women wanted doing without and going on welfare. Feminism requires an artificial economic support system of affirmative action to demand placement of women in higher paying jobs at the expense of merit and on the low end, a welfare state to bail out uneducated women who want to have families. And increasingly, the jokes on both of them as Islamicists move in and then have huge families to kill off western civilization in general including feminism.
    When I confront anti-feminist “feminists” about this, they smile and say that 50 years isn’t a long time. That we should wait a few hundred years or so before judging women as being uninterested in accepting the responsibilities that come with equality. But yet, feminism’s flagship organization is called NOW because feminists wanted rights NOW. But responsibilities? Give them a few centuries and maybe they’ll get around to them. Do you see the problem?
    And even as they claim 50 years isn’t a lot of time, it’s nearly a lifetime for many folks. It’s at least 2 generations. Many women have been given the opportunity to live up to equality and have said they don’t want it. Most feminists want victim-preferences. A minority outright hate men. And most women will just take goodies and try to “woman out” of the responsibilities. And most men are white knights who protect women while claiming they are equal. So in the end, those people, men and women both, who really judge women as equals to live up to, and deserve, treatment as such comprise an incredibly small percent of the population. The USSR broke up after about 70 years. Feminism’s time is largely up because if there isn’t a grassroots movement to begin criticizing it, then external forces such as Islamic and third world invasion will do their work whatever else happens.

    1. Roosh lives in the world that is, and not in the world he might desire.

      1. I married the Eastern European woman I met 14 years ago and still going at it. There’s absolutely not reason he couldn’t have settled down and had a few kids by now.
        I have a lovely daughter with her and I tell ya, you guys would get a pretty long lecture from both me and her before trying your moves. 🙂

  61. When it comes to politics, women only care about two things: (1) general welfare and (2) security. i.e., collectivism.

  63. A friend of mine, turning 50, is married to the woman he dated from age 15 forward (they’re the same age), monogamously, until they married. I’ve actually asked her variations of these questions (I’ve known them for years).
    Her
    “Are you against homosexual marriage?”
    Yes
    “Do you believe its ideal for a woman to remain a virgin until she gets married?” Yes, I was
    “Do you believe that its best for children to be raised by a stay-at-home mother?”
    Yes, it’s what we did
    “Do you believe a woman’s choices should be constrained by her
    husband, tribe, or church with the intention of doing what’s best for
    her?”
    *flinch* *weird look*
    “Do you believe it’s wrong for a young girl to find herself by traveling around the world and trying new experiences?”
    Absolutely, it’s revolting. Women shouldn’t be out screwing strange men. Sluts are not to be celebrated
    Hey, 4 out of 5 ain’t awful. If this were a traditional society still I suspect she wouldn’t have flinched at the one she didn’t answer yes.
    BUT…keep in mind…this was a girl who is around 50, who dated only one man, monogamously and then married him as a virgin. And she still flinched at one of the questions.
    Strange world.

    1. The secret lies in the type of “glove” that “the Hand” is wearing. 🙂
      Abuse and/or overuse of the iron one often unnecessarily crushes the one being held…and puts doubt about the strength of the (male) hand wearing it in the head of a woman.
      Often, spider-silk binds better than steel.
      ;)))

    2. My wife would answer precisely how you depicted. If #4 was worded differently, something like “If your husband/tribe/church who is looking out for your best interest, puts out an edict, would you do your best to follow it?” she would agree.
      In all sincerity, I think that is how I would want her to answer. I don’t really want a servant who needs to be commanded in everything. I want a woman who listens and follows principles, not orders.

  64. It’s just a fun fantasy. Conservative and Libertarian men daydream about a woman with traditional values and just enough tomboyishness to want to go on camping trips and learn to shoot. But I think we’re all aware on some level that the best most of us will land is a cheerleader willing to follow our lead.
    Some of the most patriarchal cultures have legends of warrior queens and war goddesses. Athena and Valkyries come to mind.

    1. And Boadicea, which has been warped by feminists in ways that are unimaginable if you know the true story. That said, all of these warrior women are either the exception to the rule, rarely, or they are pure mythical beings (the ones you cited).

      1. There have been a few warrior-women societies, but they rarely lasted beyond 1-2 generations. Most of the women rulers across history have been bloody tyrants on par with any male butcher for the period.

    2. The pussyless trad cons buy into this shit like no other. It’s pathetic

  65. I think it’s just an attempt by Liberals in general to save their own skins, because the SJW crowd are revealing far too much of how perverse their worldview is.

  66. That moment when you see an ‘anti-feminist’ woman with a sexy profile pic attempting to comment under an article calling out anti-feminists for only seeking attention.

  67. I’ve just surfed this site, too much generalizations. I’m a girl and I will take the above test:
    “Are you against homosexual marriage?”
    —> Yes. No decent human being wants to see a poor kid adopted by two daddies or two mummies.
    “Do you believe its ideal for a woman to remain a virgin until she gets married?”
    —-> I’m 25, still virgin even after my engagement. My fiancée is mature enough to be able to wait, and if he can’t, we’re still not legally married thus he can sleep with other girls meanwhile.
    “Do you believe that its best for children to be raised by a stay-at-home mother?”
    —-> I wish I don’t have to work for one day in my life because it’s the man who has to pay for everything. If I were to marry a rich man, I wouldn’t bother tread a workplace. Much more fun to go to the places where I can practice my hobbies instead. But for the case being, I have to help so that my future children won’t lack any necessity.
    “Do you believe a woman’s choices should be constrained by her husband, tribe, or church with the intention of doing what’s best for her?”
    —-> Most of the time. Experienced older people know best, and the husband is the official decision maker. There are exceptions such as “it’s best that we kill our newborn daughter because as a man I only want male offspring” or “a husband can ban his wife from visiting her parents”
    “Do you believe it’s wrong for a young girl to find herself by traveling around the world and trying new experiences?”
    —-> Yes and no. Depends on the type of experience. My conservative parents agreed to let me go to a western country (England) alone at only 14 to study English. They actually have faith in the way they’ve been raising their children, and that there is no place for sex tourism in our family.
    This website is really full of black and white ideas, so please notice that this is what keeps you attracting the exact type of girls you don’t like.

      1. ALL of people here are seeking attention..even some “non-people”, as well…;))))
        Therefore…why not give an approving nod…if what is said sounds…well, reasonable?…;))
        Generosity is virtue of the Strong.
        🙂

  68. I couldn’t agree with this article more! I’ve found that a good test to spot the fakers are if they agree with the principles of egalitarianism and if they do. They are not on our side!

  69. Anyone reading this feel free to point out the flaws, I enjoy the discussion. I wouldn’t describe myself as an “anti-feminist” due to the connotations Mr Roosh has pointed out. However I am interested to hear the response to my responses to the proposed questions from the MGTOW chaps on here.
    I am an 18 year old female traditionalist and hear are my responses. I welcome criticism, but please be respectful.
    1) Do I believe or support homosexual marriage? This is difficult one, thinking from a Catholic point of view and considering the definition of marriage I would have to say “no”. Legally speaking I believe in minimum state intervention, so can see an argument for civil partnership to protect property rights of those individuals. Also I would argue that it is only god that can essentially determine whether or not this is moral or not. My response would be yes, legally speaking as it is none of my business.
    2) Should a woman remain a virgin until marriage? This again is very interesting question. I can again approach this from a religious and pragmatic stand point. The Bible clearly states that it is best for both parties should save themselves for their marriage partner. Pragmatically speaking, yes I believe it is ideal for a woman to remain a virgin or at least have very few sexual partners. However, if a woman (or man) has been molested as a child or actually raped (I mean this in the real sense of the word, not a drunken hook up). I have strong opinions on the so called “hook up culture” but will not discuss them here.
    3) should children be raised by a stay at home mother? Yes, 100% yes. I won’t develop any further than that as it’s so obvious.
    4) Should a woman’s choices be controlled by those who have her best interests at heart? If their intention is to help her, for example a father pointing out that going out drinking, getting tattooed and dying her hair multiple colours isn’t acceptable behaviour then yes. Women look after the home, then men look after the women each party must fulfil their side of the bargain to speak.
    5) Should a young girl travel by herself to “find” herself? If that means drinking and immoral behaviour then no. However, I see no issue with travelling with family or her husband/chaperone. I would also have concerns for a young woman travelling by herself.
    Those are my responses. I know you may have negative ideas about women, but I can assure you I am here for discussion only. Thanks for your ideas 🙂

    1. 1. Do you have any gay friends? If so, you have swallowed the pill. Do you openly condemn gay marriage or even gay people in general with your friends? If not, then you answer is too wishy-washy and not concrete enough for me.
      2. If you not married and have had more than zero sexual partners, yes you have swallowed that feminist pill.
      3. Do you talk a lot about being a mother? Have you done an ounce of research on how to effectively raise kids? Have you done research on how to have a safe pregnancy or even how to be healthy in the leadup to pregnancy? If not, then I don’t believe you are serious and it is just a concept to you.
      4. (just a comment) God gave a commandment to men to love their wives, he also said for women to respect their husbands. God gave each gender the hardest role to accomplish for their particular gender. Women just don’t respect men and they never will unless they have the right heart. I just don’t know you well enough to tell.
      5. You shouldn’t add qualifiers at all. Also you didn’t attack the concept of ‘finding yourself’ which is at the heart of the question. Women, when left to their own devices tend towards self destructive actions. I’ve never known an example when a women goes out to ‘find herself’ and it ends well.
      While I am glad you are searching for solutions, please forgive my skepticism on your intentions, as my suspicion is that you are fishing for compliments or approval. To sum up I just didn’t find your answers concrete enough to fit the criteria. IMO, all women have swallowed the pill and it is up to men to deprogram and ‘detox’ them prior to marriage because feminism is just too seductive for women.

      1. Truthfully, for a women to actually be anti-feminist, whether or not she has a traditional basis, she would have to get away from the western world to detox. You really can’t rid yourself of all this bullshit if you’re bombarded with propaganda every day.

      2. Hi Andrew, thanks for responding. Does being engaged count? I understand your skepticism and I’m sorry I didn’t explain myself well enough, I think approval to some extent is part of human nature. I guess having people who I know agree with me know that I genuinely see flaws in modern culture that is heavily influenced by feminism would be a good thing. But I’m not after any “sexual approval” or approval exclusively from men. First I would be suspicious about “researching about being a mother” since most material is influenced by the feminist agenda. I like to think I’m in general good health and could have a healthy pregnancy, although I may not marry for a few years. I also have cooking, cleaning skills etc and yes I often talk about being a mother. Second, I’d like to think I have a loving heart, maybe others would disagree. To be honest, I’m not entirely sure what the term “finding one’s self” actually means. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with learning about different cultures and languages as long as nothing immoral happens. It is true that many young girls can’t cope with being by themselves and to be honest I would more worried about them being by themselves and getting hurt. As well as the obvious lack of parental guidance to prevent them from engaging in immoral behaviour. You mentioned homosexuality, I find that it is good to love all people and be polite when they are polite and to take them as individuals, it doesn’t mean that you are yourself homosexual. I think to be honest the new “gender fluid” craze is much more damaging to the traditional family unit- it is interesting that other members of the gay transexual community also take issue with it. We are heading for situation where there is no longer such thing as gender and we’ll have some strange Marxist land. Finally in regards to feminism its self it is interesting in a anthropological sense. Some issues raised by feminism are actually human rights’ issues which are no way exclusive to the female gender alone. Such as trafficking. However I’ve found that with feminism it is often a case that men are removed from the situation to make the women look like victims. I would also point out that feminism is attractive to men too as they think it’ll make them more attractive to women. Using this logic it is obvious why men may think the same of female anti-feminists .
        Regards,
        W

  70. While I wouldn’t argue your assessment of the women that signed the letter, I have come across some definite actual anti-feminists in social media. They are generally very attractive, intelligent, and usually married.
    Fox fired one Andrea Tantaros recently, and I would put her in the camp of actual anti-feminist as well. She’s the only journalist I would put in that class.

  71. I want to be on your side Roosh, I really do, but then you have to go and post articles like this. You don’t even really subscribe to Christianity so I don’t get where you think women should submit to their husbands. And even if you did their “tribe” and “church” doesn’t have the right to dictate over a woman’s life either. Not to mention the fact that while its ideal for a woman to be a virgin its also ideal for a MAN to be a virgin.
    But I guess that makes me a cuck automatically now huh.

    1. No. Chastity is a female virtue…for: “mater semper certa est”…))
      Keeping-one’s-word is THE MALE virtue…thus: loyalty to relationship/marriage”…
      Also: EVERY human HAS his/her master(s); to say that The Supreme One, His Temple(s), or a husband are AMONG THE WORST OF THEM…makes my fiendish heart smile…;)))
      Therefore: go-go-go…and help more women “find themselves” in pursuit of ANYTHING BUT the relevant stuff.
      Pretty please. ;)))))))

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  75. There are women who oppose feminism. This is bad stereotyping. Women are more easily influenced, but many do have strong opinions about things.

  76. Ah yes rooshe being the doouche!
    So, I think the virgin before marriage is a tad unrealistic these days as even red pill guys dont want virgins to marry, they wanna try before they buy. Perhaps it should be ‘will you limit your sexual partners to one or two men?’
    I think the sex before marriage ship has truly sailed in the west.
    You would think that you guys might be down for a woman who truly takes personal responsibility and is accountable rather than encouraging her to be child like.
    Not saying she would have lots of sexual partners because if she wants a quality man shell know that he wont respect the high number. So that is called being responsible and living with the consequences. Sometimes i think you lot let yourselves down by not demanding accountability from women you just seem to encourage child like behaviour under marriage.
    Anyway, roosh doesnt represent the majority of his readers in all areas, what do you lot think?
    I agree to all except travelling ( if the woman has personal control then why wouldnt she travel before marriage?)
    And the sex before marriage bit. I get it, i think we should do it, but i just think no one wants it anymore.

  78. Really failing to see the difference between m.r.a. And feminazi’s. Same level of hate and loathing and hoop jumping for member’s of the opposite sex.

  79. I don’t know. Women are so self-serving, that most don’t really have an ideology. They might claim to be feminist, or like Hillary, when around the “herd,” but then when their friends aren’t looking they’ll vote against Hillary just because she’s a woman, because women hate to see other women succeed. And any woman, I don’t care who she is or how die-hard “feminist” she claims to be, will be the first one to get in line to screw the first alpha male or bad boy she runs into.
    That’s a big source of false rape accusations. A group of girls will complain about and trash some guy that they don’t even know. Then one of them sleeps with him, then her friends find out, and to save face in the herd she’ll let them talk her into filing rape charges.

  80. It’s kinda hard to get a group of anti-feminists together who aren’t mostly female because the men’s anti-feminist type groups don’t want us. The rest of the article makes sense though and explains some of why, just be wary of using group makeup as a criterion for fake girls.

  81. I’m a female anti-feminist traditional conservative and I’ll prove it.
    * I’m against homosexual marriage because not only is it pointless for procreation, but it also sets the stage for legalizing pedophilia and child marriage. Here’s why: Before the ’60s, homosexuality was called “homophilia”, it was illegal and considered a mental illness. Now, not only is that no longer the case, but they can marry who they’re attracted to. I predict that pedophilia will become “pedosexuality”, it won’t be illegal or considered a mental illness as it currently is, and they’ll be able to marry who THEY’RE attracted to (children). Liberals will say the same things about them as they do about gays: “Love is love/They can’t help who they’re attracted to/They were born that way/Where’s your tolerance?”
    * I believe it’s ideal for a woman to stay a virgin until marriage or else she’s like sloppy seconds. Losing your virginity to consummate your marriage is a wonderful thing – it shows that you belong to him and only him. And yes, I’m a virgin.
    * I believe it’s best for children to be raised by a stay-at-home mother because who else will raise them? I don’t trust strangers. Why do you think there are nanny cams and daycare horror stories? Plus, if children are in another person’s care most of the time, they’ll be less likely to form an emotional connection with their mother. Although, it’s getting more difficult to support a family on just one salary.
    * If a woman makes a bad choice, then yes, her husband/tribe/church should override her decision.
    * I don’t really see how traveling the world will help one find their purpose in life. It might make them appreciate the world and other cultures more though. I think discovering one’s passion and talent will help one find themselves.
    ** I’m also against abortion. It’s murder (unborn doesn’t mean not alive), it can mentally mess up, sterilize, or even kill the mother, it takes away personal responsibility, and there are many infertile couples that have been waiting a long time to adopt a baby.
    ** Finally, I’m against miscegenation. Every race should be preserved. But I’m not a supremacist.
    So there you have it.

  83. All I see is a bunch pre wall and a lot of post wall monsters, all united in idiocy.

  84. The female “anti-feminist” is a gynocentrist. She will support feminism when it suits her, and oppose it when it suits her.

  86. Now I know why some “conservative” women (and sometimes men) attacked me. I thought them “liberal”. But disguised feminism is the better term.

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