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There’s Nothing Wrong With Staring At A Woman’s Breasts

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I happened to spot this patronizing piece of manure on Facebook recently:

The world is full of bullshit and I rarely react to anything, but this happens to be something I see over and over again these days in various forms. Sometimes you have to read between the lines, but with this example, the message is obvious: normal male sexuality and desire for a beautiful woman is something suspicious and almost dangerous. I find this demonizing of normal male sexuality despicable and disgusting.

This meme is of course one of those things that looks nice and something everyone can agree with when you first look at it. “Be a gentleman” and “respect women”—who could disagree with that? But the undercurrent with this kind of meme is something completely different: normal male sexual interest in women and their “assets” is something abnormal and morally questionable. I chose this meme simply because it’s a clear and telling example of a larger trend.

Someone might want to say that this meme simply encourages men to stop staring at women with “greedy eyes” when women can see the man staring at them. I could agree with that, but I don’t think this is the correct interpretation of the underlying message and intention behind this meme. The actual message is this: simply looking at women with sexual interest is somehow suspicious and wrong.

Expressions like “looks at that strap of bra greedily” or “cheap guy who looks at that cleavage with full of lust” clearly support this interpretation.

Why use expressions like “cheap guy” in reference tomen who might steal a glance of a woman’s cleavage or butt when the woman isn’t even looking? Where’s the harm in that? Obviously, there’s no harm, so the only possible interpretation is that the mere intention and feeling of desire behind these glances is somehow wrong and questionable.

This boils down to slandering healthy male sexuality as if there’s something abnormal in a man who feels sexual desire towards a beautiful woman and likes boobs and firm butts. The reality, of course, is that nothing could be more normal than this. Men have always liked the female body and they always will. There’s nothing wrong with this so long as men don’t do anything coercive towards women.

But even this mere feeling of desire and sexual interest towards women is slandered and labeled as something questionable these days. This is quite obvious from this example alone: expressions like “cheap guy,” “greedily,” and “full of lust” are obviously meant to denigrate any man who likes to look at beautiful women and feels sexual desire towards them.

Why do people propagate this message so eagerly these days? I can only guess, but it seems quite clear to me that these people feel some kind of fear towards male sexuality. The male sexual desire itself is somehow scary or dangerous and should be denigrated and slandered so that men would begin to feel shame about their completely healthy desires.

In a certain way, these people want to castrate men: make men into sheepish “gentlemen” who no longer look women with “greedy eyes” and feel sexual desire towards them, or who at least are ashamed of it and keep it to themselves. This is a form of psychological castration and I can only feel a strong sense of contempt towards people who propagate this bullshit.

Philosophically Absurd: Values Are Not In Things, They Are Assigned

I want to close this piece with a short examination of the philosophical assumptions behind this whole “boobs are just two balls of fat and flesh women get naturally” way of thinking. The ridiculous assumption behind this kind of reasoning is that values are the same thing as their objects. In other words, values can and always are reduced to whatever their subject matter (or material) happens to be.

For example, by this logic, some priceless religious artifact or a statue would be worthless junk because “it’s just a piece of rock” or whatever. The implication is that any values and interest assigned to it would be ridiculous because who would be interested in a “piece of rock?”

This same idiotic logic is here applied to breasts (and more generally the female body), and the argument, when explicitly stated, goes like this: “boobs are just lumps of fat and flesh, therefore they have no value and can have no sexual interest for anyone.”

Of course, anyone with half a brain can see that this kind of deduction is completely absurd. If this logic is taken to it’s ultimate conclusion, nothing at all would have any value because everything is “just a lump of atoms and molecules” or whatever form of matter it happens to be in any particular case. I seriously have to wonder what kind of imbecile comes up with something like this just to denigrate men who find boobs fascinating (as they naturally do).

It’s easy to construct a reductio ad absurdum from this stupid form of argument, and thus the logic is fallacious. There is no logical connection between values and the material of things on which values may be assigned. No logical deduction can be drawn from one to the other.

Why did I go to such lengths just to demolish something so obviously mistaken? Simply because I’ve seen this same logic applied again and again when it comes to the subject matter of sexuality. But of course, like all pieces of alluring nonsense, this one certainly regenerates, no matter how many times it’s demolished. I’m almost certainly not the first person to demolish it and I won’t be the last. Exorcising popular nonsense like this is truly a Sisyphean task.

I think this is probably enough. I wanted to reveal the real motive and message behind this sort of propaganda. The message is a malicious attempt to slander and denigrate normal male sexuality. “Gentleman” here seems to be a man who doesn’t even feel sexual desire towards women anymore and never looks at women with “greedy eyes.” In other words, an abnormal castrate instead of a healthy man. What a truly despicable agenda!

Read More: Why Feminists Hate Male Sexuality

121 thoughts on “There’s Nothing Wrong With Staring At A Woman’s Breasts”

  1. It’s called onanism and it’s no different than masturbation. It’s for betas.
    Soon to be outlawed, I’m sure! LOL

    1. The story of Onan makes zero sense outside ancient Jewish inheritance laws. It’s a story about cheating those laws, not masturbation.

  2. I stare at hot, young, petite girls on the street all the time.
    Been a serial leerer for a very long time.
    It’s fun to make them uncomfortable.
    At least the ones here in NYC.
    When I visited Korea I never did that.
    Had no hostility towards those girls.
    Actually smiled over there.

      1. Actually, it’s what women hope for in this situations. They hope men will appreciate what they see. We enjoy what we see, they get validation through our eyes, everyone wins.

  4. Every time you stare at them you give away your life energy and cause you base chakra to spin backwards.

  5. If they go out of their way to expose their breasts, I will go out of my way to make sure she sees me staring, often followed my a smirk of digust, making sure she understands that I think she’s a slut.

    1. Let me explain this to you.
      Women put their boobs on display FOR ALPHA MALES (HSMV males) to see and preverably to grab. If a slap on the ass comes with it, even better.
      When this feminist wrote her message she did not target these men. She did refer to “gentlemen” or in other words, weak beta males with low SMV.
      It has been an open secret in the manosphere that ALL women want to date the top 5% of males. Even the ugly, old and fat ones.
      Feminism is an idea to make this goal easier to reach.

        1. Ugly fat and old *women* with SMV of 1-4 STILL want to date the HSMV males only.
          They will get offended if a SMV 5, average beta male stares at their wobble titts or gives them a cat call.
          This is exactly what “liberation from the patriarchy” is all about – free these LSMV girls from the need to marry a beta (while young and somewhat bangable) by giving them goverment hand-outs or jobs.
          This does enable them to puruse their dreams (=Christian Grey type) until they are 35+, childless, Insings with 10 cats.

      2. This man nailed it, as long as you are in 20% with your smv you will be let go even for harassing female police “officers”.

      3. This feminist that wrote this is indirectly attacking the women that can get the attention of the top alpha males. Since the fugly feminists can’t get these men and to make it seem like they stand up for women, they throw men under the bus. They want to deprive beautiful women of alpha male attention.
        Women by far are the REAL misogynists!

  7. Gay men AND broads starefuck my butt cleavage/plumbers crack on days when my “draws” are sagging worse than 90 year old vag. Let them look; no harm done with their greedy eyes. This hairy (Unleash the) Kraken was meant to be ogled by such creeps. Only natural.

  8. I stare at their breasts, they stare at my crotch. It is a give give relationship. Not to mention the women who advertise constantly are in no position to complain.

  9. Sexuality is a feminist construct. Normal human beings have things they put attention to, because we value them, or just plain general curiosity. They don’t think about the sexual act all day, nor the things revolving around it. The whole ‘sexual attraction’ theory is a joke.

    1. I see where you are coming from damian.
      For you, your words are true.
      But understand that people are not all the same.
      When it comes to sex there are 3 major groups.
      High sex-drive (SD)
      Average SD
      Low SD
      For a LSD person, sex is not the center of the universe.
      For a HSD person on the other hand, sex is the first thougth in the morning and the last thing at night.
      He will want to have sex with every hot person encountered in daily life and thinks about sex all day.
      HSD people around 20 will have sex 3-5 times a week, often even daily. Some extreme cases 2-3 times a day (these are mostly females though) even; every day.
      The LSD person often will find it difficult to understand this major difference, because for a LSD person sex is something “nice” but not that important.
      Once every other week is perfectly fine and if there is something else, like a superbowl or work, the LSD person will be happy to skip it.

      1. I’m 52 and I still, easily, pop twice in 1 hour.
        I pay top dollar for these girls and I like to get my money’s worth. I usually see escorts 3 times a week, and sometimes 4 times if I go twice on the weekend. Seeing a new girl from the Russian agency at 4 PM today at a hotel over in Jersey.

        1. How much do you pay for an escort? What is top dollar?
          I don’t see anything wrong with paying for sex, but it does get ridiculous when guys are giving thousands of dollars just to bust a nut.

        2. @ CJ
          The Russian agency I am using today runs weekend specials for repeat clients. So $300/hr (instead of the usual $400) plus a $50 tip for “extras”. I usually see girls in the $300 to $400/hr range, but on occasion I go as high as $800/hr to treat myself to a 10. Some of the model types will charge $1500 – $2500 an hour, which of course is freaking ridiculous.
          Yeah, I suppose it is a lot of money to spend, but I like hot, young girls. I have no interest in women anywhere near my own age. And what else am I going to spend my disposable cash on? Buy a house so I can be slave to a mortgage and whack off in every room?

        3. @ CJ
          If this is something you are interested in trying, I imagine the rates in St. Louis are lower than NYC, but not sure how hot the escorts are over there.

        4. expensive.
          Here 100 euros for 30min 150 for 1h with escorts at their private place.
          Before i was ok to pay but now that i have improved a lot physically and financially, i’m a bit disappointed to pay just for such a basic urge releapse like sex. In fact, i consider i shouldn’t have to pay for that anymore, better to find a good slut to make her do my wildest fantasies for free. It is better for the ego.

        5. @ faraway
          I’m 52.
          I am fit and trim and have always done well financially. Females just simply do not like me. They didn’t like me at 17, or 20 or 30 and don’t like me at 52. When I say females I mean young petite girls 7 and up. I am extremely shallow regarding a girls youth and beauty.
          I am intelligent enough to know that I could get a girlfriend at the snap of a finger if I was willing to date wrinkled old bags in their forties, especially if she needed a guy with $$$. But I’d rather be dead than do that. I’ll bang hot young girls for cash until I am dead.

        6. @ faraway
          7 and up in looks, not age… 🙂
          I go by the 7-29 rule.
          7 or higher in looks. 29 and under in age.

        7. i got a baiit and switch yesterday butt i was thirsty and rode it. Ugly but still did the job. I go for the bottom dollar shit.

        9. It’s better than wasting time trying to pick up young chicks from a bar for sure. I’m 24 & I rather pay for sex than end up talking to some feminist women about stupid non sense.

        11. @ Adam
          It happens. Sometimes you get a clunker.
          The Asian joints will bait and switch from time to time. Maybe they think we can’t tell the difference?
          Yeah, I usually do the same and bite the bullet unless she is un-bangable. As long as she is not lower than a 6 I’ll just pump-n-dump her and never repeat.

      2. You just show me a classification of people according to their horniness levels. Assuming you can calculate such a thing without a reporting bias, that doesn’t show why people get horny in the first place, and it doesn’t get to the root of the point I was saying, which is that sexual attraction itself wasn’t the main idea behind intersexual relationships until some decades ago. You just take that for granted and call it human nature.

        1. Reproduction is the driving force behind sex. The only flaw in AutomaticSlims business model – he pays for sex but these perfect10s do not get his babies. A shame.

        2. @ Maldek
          I flat out do not like children.
          Not in any way. They annoy me to no end.
          I am thankful that I do not have any.
          Some people are not cut out to be parents and I am one of them.

        3. Maldek,
          In Asia, you don’t have to use a condom when you pay, and the women like white babies.

  10. So if husband states at boobs of his own wife/girlfriend is he a pervert then?????
    Bitter women and thirsty white knights, gays, SJW and other filth cannot simply reject physiology, psychology of human being.
    Who the fuck they think they are?

  11. I just looked up that Facebook post, and it was actually posted by an Indian guy back in March 2017. So this is quite old, not sure why the author said it was posted recently. But anyways, India has their own problems with a real rape culture and extreme-beta men. Nothing worse than an Indian-male-feminist

    2. You got it wrong Camel! Just like the “vested” western powers/media keep on trying to somehow demean Hindusthan, you are also doing the same!!
      Raping females is in every Continent/County on this Planet Earth; not just Hindusthan. But thankfully (at least for now);
      Pussies walking bare chested, Doing Slut walks, Disrespecting elected President, Constantly attacking MALES & Masculinity, Being ungrateful to MEN etc., All these things are apparent & happening only in the West. As the saying goes: you reap what you sow !!
      By the way, unlike the western MEN, Hindusthani MALES (majority) are not betas and/or pussy maniacs!! They simply are sentimental (culture, tradition, religion etc.).
      I have nothing against you, other than sympathy.

      1. Sorry, but plenty of men in India adopt the role of white knights. I heard how Government employed Police in Delhi to shame men caught looking at women on New Year’s Eve.
        You have a big problem regarding cucks. The destiny of your country is in your hands.

        1. John you like most people who grow up in post feminist societies feel that men from traditional countries are cucky..or they are white knights..or whatever..However this alpha bad boy is just another facade of degeneracy..In a sane society where women assume their biological roles men are naturally chivalrous towards them..And women reward that chivalry..I am Indian too who has lived in the west for a long time.I have come to the conclusion that this absolute hatred that people here show for women merely comes from their bad experience with women in their early stages of life..Most indian men ( at least from the subcontinent) grow up in stable families..Most of us have never seen our mothers/sisters/female friends behave in such horrendous ways..Then what incentive do we have to act like a bad boy alpha?.It will only damage our reputation in social circles..blv me when it comes to deciding a long term partner..Indian men are ruthless..They will drop a degenerate slut without an ounce of remorse..This is the reason why indian women have not yet started becoming carausel riders..This site..although honest seems to have weird fixations with certain kinds of men( black,indian,jooze)..

      2. I’ve seen you use the term “pussy maniac” several times. What exactly does that mean?
        Is it a guy who can’t stop thinking about banging tight young pussy? (I think this is most men)
        Or is it a male who is so “pussified” that he is maniacal about being a “wuss” or “soy boy” and all things that entails?

        1. No offense senior ! That term is not related to or targeting towards normal MALE behavior, (High) sexual desire or whatsoever !!
          I only use that term for MEN (regardless of east, west, north or south)
          who “pedestal” pussies and allow them to “cross their limits”.
          Whenever I say western MEN are pussy maniacs, I am actually referring to this kind of guys.
          So, based on your comments & opinions, I can say that the term doesn’t apply to you!

      3. I generally agree with the tone of this post. A lot of our current dialog in this country is counterproductive. However, make no mistake. Our president sets the cheap and disgraceful standard and cheapens the office of POTUS. He has little self control and very little character. When he displays something to admire, I am sure millions of Americans will. They didn’t require much to elect him. Respecting Trump is really about waiting for something to respect.

  13. So “gentleman” in feminese means unsexed wimp. It also often means “rich man” in that lingo.

  14. I have a pretty high SD and think about sex pretty much every day, but it’s also possible to switch off and be without it for quite a long time. You are still thinking about it, more or less, but you are not so eager. A man must have self-control.
    The thing I don’t like about some religions is that the eunuck cucks want to impose their petty sexual morals on each and everyone, because they cannot get sex and/or have lower SD. Why not respect the fact that men are different?
    In Chinese, Greek and Roman civilization, and Japan throughout most of its history, they knew nothing about that sort of asexual moralism. And then I don’t just talk about the lower classes but aristocracies that showcased sound overall ethics and character. I am referring to concubinages in China and Mongolia, for example. In Japan the concept of sexual sin doesn’t even exist.
    Thus my inclination is definitely more in line with Greek and East Asian thinking in this regard. The concept of sin and petty moralism should be abolished completely. St. Augustine was a half step forward in the sexual realm, since he allowed sex within marriage, but then some new eunuck cucks brought back the anti-human dogma called asceticism.

    1. “..think about sex pretty much every day, but it’s also possible to switch off and be without it for quite a long time.”
      – I am not so good at turning it off. Taking long walks when the weather is nice helps me to do that. Hiking as well. And swimming in the ocean. Those things help me get to a more “peaceful” frame of mind.

    2. William
      “The concept of sin and petty moralism should be abolished completely.”
      The society will slip into complete degeneracy and filth faster than a blink of eye. And then it will be replaced by those who still have these concepts. Examples: Islamization of Europe
      You may not believe in God, but denying the major role of religion plays in keeping society (relatively) healthy and stable is simply ignorant.
      If you are aware about any other thing/teaching/set of rules that can mentally solidify family(society overall) as successfully as major religions do, please let us know

      1. I’ve heard that argument one million times, and even taken into account as a sort of historical argument regarding what made the West prosper in the past https://syncreticpolitics.wordpress.com/2017/11/02/516/, but I don’t buy it. It’s just an interpretation, a social construct. I am not implying that we should degeneracy or neglect the general monogamy and marriage model, which mainly is preferable, but to think that sex is a sin and try to impose celibacy on healthy masculine men are not leading anywhere but to a genetic dead end.
        Japan allows very few immigrant to enter due to a strong component of ethno-nationalism. People don’t need Abrahamic religions to have lots of children. That’s just lazy thinking. There are all sorts of reason to have several children. What we all can agree on is that consumerist religion, cultural Marxism and other abominations should be replaced by higher values.

        1. I’ve heard that argument one million times, and even taken it into account as a sort of historical argument regarding what made the West prosper in the past https://syncreticpolitics.wordpress.com/2017/11/02/516/, but I don’t buy it. It’s just an interpretation, a social construct. I am not implying that we should cherish degeneracy or neglect the general monogamy and marriage model, which mainly is preferable, but to think that sex is a sin and try to impose celibacy on healthy masculine men are not leading anywhere but to a genetic dead end.
          Japan allows very few immigrant to enter due to a strong component of ethno-nationalism. People don’t need Abrahamic religions to have lots of children. That’s just lazy thinking. There are all sorts of reason to have several children and not allowing other cultures to replace them. What we all can agree on is that consumerist religion, cultural Marxism and other abominations should be replaced by higher values.

        2. The Japanese have a demographic disaster in the making and very few children now on average, the media dubbed it the celibacy syndrome. In Rome there were the Vestal Virgins, the priestesses of the goddess Vesta, and women in general were expected to be chaste, a slut was a slut, just like today. Pope John Paul II has touched on the subject of sex many times in his encyclicals and their take-away message is that the human body was made for sex, but it’s within a marriage where your sexual desires get fulfilled.

        3. William,
          Ok, so here is the deal – a potential situation:
          Since you are a smart guy and write very good articles, you have been assigned to rule, for example, Western Europe. So you have to fix the whole set of problems: matriarchy, white family shattered, replacement of native population, decline in overall morality ( such as gays adopt children, children are being killed for no reason or getting their gender forcefully reassigned) neglecting the own history and culture.
          How would you fix the above mentioned problems in a non-violent way WITHOUT CHURCH.
          So in other words, you need to stabilize Western family and let the native Europeans grow in numbers without help of immigrants.
          Please note that society is liberal and you cannot force people to breed, you cannot acts as Stalin and send millions to gulag, you cannot punish women for not having babies.
          What would you do?

        4. @ Benny
          “What would you do?”
          I know you asked this question to William, but I figured I would give an answer as well.
          1) Ban 3rd world immigration
          1a) End birthright citizenship (which I think is only an issue here in the US)
          2) End (or greatly decrease) all social programs and entitlements
          3) Greatly lower both personal and corporate taxes and shrink government and government workforce
          4) Privatize education. No more teachers on public salary and no more teachers union. Hopefully communal homeschooling would catch on in big way.
          5) End divorce payouts. No more alimony and child support. The parent with the financial means keeps the kids and hires a nanny to take care of them.
          The other one walks away with what they came in with and whatever they earned. Since 80% of divorces are initiated by females, this action would greatly reduce divorce.
          6) End all discriminatory laws and practices such as AA, EEOC, hate crime legislation, racial quotas, forced integration, etc.. Note regarding “hate crimes”: I am not saying that crime is OK, but all violent crime is hateful. Not just those crimes committed by demographic in the majority.
          7) If possible, rescind the privilege of voting from females.

        5. Dariusz,
          If you think getting married fulfills your sexual desires, you ain’t been married

      3. I wonder,Benny, can we have God without religion? It strikes me that the two shouldn’t be mutually inclusive. After all, religion is man’s interpretation of what God expects of us but it never addresses the problem that if there is a God that he requires a small group of ‘chosen’ people to tell everyone else what those requirements are! I choose to believe in God and am open to listen to other peoples idea of what He expects, but I will not accept other people telling me how I should live my life according to some group belief system that by its own admission is there to control the masses, to stop us slipping into our heathen ature. Loathe as I am to agree with Wee Willy, he does have a point. It is not laws and rules that keep us from chaos, it is our own inner voice, possibly the devine within, that prevents us from hurting each other. In fact it could be argued that rules and laws actually cause more harm than they prevent. If you accept there is a God then you must accept He has a direct line to all of humanity, no need for middle men.

        2. Good question. And my answer would be “yes” without hesitation. If there’s a God, then there’s no logical reason to assume that this God even wants to reveal Himself to us. Or even if he does that, we have no reason to assume that he wants to give us some kind of dogma we need to follow. Back in the days of Enlightenment it was common to believe in a deistic God who created the Universe and is overseeing it but doesn’t intervene in any way.
          God can even exist without human beings having any knowledge about that. That’s pretty much what the deistic God is. Moreover, no one knows what God really wants even if such a being exists. Many people CLAIM to know this but that’s why we have countless denominations and all these theological disputes. It seems highly arrogant to me that someone claims to know the mind of God.
          My take on this is that if there’s a God and some kind of plan, then this plan is concealed from us for some unknown reason. Each one of us merely plays our part in the grand scheme of things and it might even be the case that no matter what we do, we end up doing just that. No way to know for sure.

        3. Soxmis,
          I haven’t said you cannot have God without religion.
          The comments were about church playing a huge role in protecting patriarchal family institution thus protecting society overall.

        4. Excellent comment SOXMIS! I will be copying & pasting your reply to all my hypocritical bluepilled “Christian” friends when they try to invite me to “church” for the umpteenth time. Mind you, cute down to earth church tail is always nice – especially the ones named Purity or Faith. 😉
          Need to get this gem out to awake the ignorant masses in a lull over the Pope & other flawed middlemen to God:
          “If you accept there is a God then you must accept He has a direct line to all of humanity, no need for middle men.”
          Me like!

        5. Excellent comment, SOXMIS!
          I’ll be copying & pasting your reply to all my hypocritical bluepilled “Christian” friends when they try to invite me to church for the umpteenth time. Mind you, cute down-to-earth church tail is always nice – especially if she’s named Purity or Faith. 😉
          Need to get this gem out to awake the ignorant masses in a lull over the Pope & other flawed middlemen to God:
          “If you accept there is a God then you must accept He has a direct line to all of humanity, no need for middle men.”
          Me like!

    3. You pretty much wrote what I’ve been thinking for a long time. I’ve always disliked ascetic morality. It seems to me that for some reason this came to be with Monotheistic religions. Seeing sexuality as something bad or even demonic hardly existed in Greek or Rome, as far as I know. Sexual asceticism really forced itself to the forefront with Christianity.
      The motivation behind it is an interesting enigma. I see no clear reasons why sexuality had to be denigrated in such a way even from a religious perspective. Maybe for a monk it could help with the religious contemplation but there’s no reason to make it a dogma. No reason to impose it on everyone. From this perspective, it should merely be a pragmatic concern for someone who devotes his life to serving a deity.
      But morality as a whole is mostly just something people do to validate their emotional needs. People want others to live the way THEY live and to hold the same values, so they use moral language to code their primal emotional reactions and attitudes into something legitimate and justified. It’s just a sleight of hand. I suppose this same phenomenon is behind sexual asceticism one way or another.

      2. A very elegant disertation on moral relativism and its virtues. Why did these past civilizations who “transcended” morality suffer such catastrophic downfalls? People like to talk about Rome, but they also like to overlook how moral decay led to political corruption and malaise. Apathy ruled the day until their culture was wiped away. It is the natural order of things that moral and ethical code accompanies rising civilizations and apathy and an “anything goes” mindset produces decline. History is full of examples of the overthrow and fall of immoral governments. We have a short period of time to restore ours. Women want freedom now without responsibility. They have always wanted this. Only, now, men have stood by and permitted it. Bad things are coming next.

    4. Asceticism is good for a Few. It should never have any influence on society as a whole, but there is nothing wrong with men of St Augustine’s caliber practicing celibacy. It’s beneficial for the entire society when he does so, wether religiously, philosophically, or culturally and artistically. In the same vain it is immensely destructive when he pushes it on other 99% of humanity.
      The Greeks and Romans knew this.

  15. Staring/leering at women is powerless castrato behaviour unless you intend to escalate. Just LOL @ a hungry lion passively staring down a gazelle brazenly stomachteasing a foot away from him.
    I’d take it a step further. If a fertile woman is out unsupervised (especially in the evening) and provocatively dressed (i.e. 95% of fertile women in this country), there’s nothing wrong with accosting her or grabbing her Trump-style. In fact, it’s degenerate and unnatural not to.
    Just LOL @ ancient Greeks or Romans walking passively by a strange, half-naked, fertile female with no male guardians present. Would never happen. That’s why I appreciate HBO’s “Rome” so much. There’s a scene where Pullo’s future girl (Irene) is walking near Rome all alone and some soldiers passing her way just scoop her up like a sack of potatoes and carry her off. That’s healthy reality. In our sick society, we as men are by default cucked, psychologically castrated and sexually harassed every day by women, especially in the summertime.

    1. That is one true basement dweller comment. Staring at women’s tits makes you part of the 99%. The 1% who don’t care enough look truly distinguished. The only women I see who genuinely seem to enjoy being looked at like a piece of meat are usually quite unattractive in the face and don’t have much else to rely on in order to grab attention. Btw, you do realize that Greco-Roman culture had its most prevalent figures engage in homosexuality ?

      1. All of Greek culture is based on the Iliad, the most hypermasculine bible ever produced. There is no homosexuality in there. On the contrary. Read it. Just don’t get a version annotated/”interpreted” by one of (((them))).

    2. Why dafuq are you giving ammo to the Jooooos to allege that we support “grabbing like Trump”? This is even worse than my H0l0h0ax denial and my hatred of jooooos!

  16. I’ve had 3 Gfs with tits like the girl in the 1st pic. I’m 6’4″ and tend to wind up with girls who’re 4’11”-5’4″ with monster (natural) tits for some reason, and I’m not particularly a boob man. The last on said while we were breaking up; “You’re a predator.” I said;”And that’s exactly why women like you want to fuck me, so STFU.”

  17. Sorry, but disagree. Why men must follow this notion of “gentlemen-ess”? It is this what makes women who want to be objectified to get money and power, objectify themselves and then blame men for that objectification.
    If you are principled, you will accept that the “Right to look wherever you like” is more important than “Right to dress however you like”. And if latter demands no judgement, then former should not also.

  18. This is ridiculous. The bitches are getting fake boob implants, invading males spaces and proclaiming their right to “free the nipple” but insist we cannot stare at them. This is deliberate provocative emasculation of men. This will not end well and should not.

    1. Yeah, it is kinda’ funny. It is like saying that if I carry a dildo in my hand and women stare at it, then they are cheap whores.
      Sexuality is normal. Moving with boobs and dicks out, arguably, isn’t.

    2. They will call the police on you for sexual harassment even though they claim that their nudity is non-sexual!

    3. …and these bitches even forget that Surgery & Implants are courtesy of MEN !!
      as always, females @ ungrateful !!

  19. I just fucking stare bro. Don’t listen to them especially when they say “we don’t dress up for the men we wear miniskirts and makeup for ourselves he he” its JFL. Its like some feminist pussyhound saying ” I fucked her as a completely selfless act to help validate her and make less insecure” . KEK
    Women are not aware or self-aware enough or logical enough to understand why they behave as they do.
    On the 14th day when they are most fertile they usually dress mostly slutty. The rack hanging pushed out is a billboard she is putting up if she knows it or doesn’t. Adverts are made to be seen by potential customers.
    I think their core nature is to whine as the natural dynamic is for men to be like Lions with that known scary unquestionable physical power. We don’t need to engage it. Sadly nagging as is their natural low level behavior to push men to do things, as a dark-art of the beta human gender, now dictates tribal policy.

  20. @Dariusz: I know but the low birth rates in Japan have got more to do with consumerism, urbanization and too extensive feminization of the nation’s workforce than the lack of control of the population’s sex drive. In fact, to some extent the Japanese are suffering from a lack of true biological sex drive. Many girls do not want the average local guys, and the men are all too focused on various substitutes for sex, like manga, anime, sexbots and other incel hobbies.
    The Roman Patricians had mistresses and men in general visited brothels whenever they pleased and had enough of dēnāriī. If sex really were a sin then it should not be allowed within the frames of a marriage either. This idea is merely an ad hoc solution that saved sex and marriage for the general population. Saint Augustine was wise to not throw it away, although he was still confined to the Abrahamic concepts like original sin (which is based on the Genesis, a book that Augustine himself consider to be interpreted allegorically).
    Now, once we have move beyond such constructs like “sin” we can start to think about why sex outside of marriage would be truly wrong or not. Does it lead to a lack of self-control and “priority disorder” within your life? If yes, then don’t do it to the same extent, or even stop doing it completely (for some asceticism can actually help them). Does it hurt others? Then don’t do it. Conversely: Does it not lead to a lack of self-control and priority disorder, nor are you hurting anyone in the process? If not, then please proceed.

    1. Japan’s not Abrahamic, and while they had a population explosion after the war now their numbers are collapsing. It seems religion isn’t anything major anymore and people do what’s convenient and use their own judgement. Man have always had more leeway, in countries like Thailand or Vietnam guys routinely use prostitutes with their wives privy to their husband’s adventures. It’s just that you don’t want to be walking down the street with your wife while other guys, lots of them in the worst case, size her up and reminisce how talented she was in bed as they pass by.

    2. Even though people do what they want to do, maybe Japan could benefit from the Church’s moral teachings, its staunch opposition to all forms of fetishism and pornography.

    3. More moral relativism. You state “nor are you hurting anyone in the process”? Really? How do you know? When did the objective point of view of men with a stiff member get so omnipotent? I am a man, and I can agree that we are being baited like never before. However, the notion that we can do what we want without consequences, if only we account for the possible bad outcomes, is tremendously vain. How do we know what will happen or who will be hurt? Our forsight is no longer than the trip to the hotel room. And neither is the woman’s insight. There is a reason for a moral imperative. Ignore it at your own peril.

      1. BTW, I like boobs as much as any other man. My policy is “look but don’t touch” unless she clearly wants you to. By that point, touching breasts is probably the least of your concerns.

  21. Don’t want cleavage stared at?
    Don’t wear push up bra… Better yet go braless, then I won’t stare ;/
    Little man knows what’s up

  22. The future looks grim.
    The government has been taken over by the elites. There is no stopping tyranny now. The 1% will go all the way to start a civil war and launch WWIII while bankrupting and enslaving the whole world.
    Americans are stupid cowards and deserve everything coming to them.
    Here’s what to expect:
    Americans will be forced to get a national ID card, passports will be revoked, and domestic travel permits will be required.
    Every American will be required to submit a DNA sample, give fingerprints, get microchip implants, and be registered in a facial scan database.
    Internet filters will first be required on all computers, mobile phones will be banned, and then the Internet will be shut down.
    Free speech and protests will be illegal.
    Reporters will be arrested.
    Government loudspeakers will be installed on street corners to broadcast propaganda.
    Newspapers, magazines, and TV and radio stations will be closed.
    Churches will be closed.
    Books will be burned.
    All guns will be required to be registered and then banned.
    Wiretapping will increase.
    Neighborhood watch groups will be set up, undercover police will be everywhere, and warrantless home searches will become routine.
    Taxes will be raised.
    Cash will be banned, there will be negative interest rates, bank fees, bail-ins, capital controls, and gold will be outlawed.
    Private property will be banned.
    Torture and extra-judicial assassinations will become routine. Government drones and robots will patrol everywhere.
    Lawyers will be arrested.
    Elections will be canceled, juries will be banned, courts will have show trials, and congress will be eliminated.
    Americans will be required to wear uniforms and attend study sessions.
    Concentration camps will be opened and Americans will be starved and killed.
    The US will look like North Korea does today.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/north-korean-defector-sketches-horrors-prison-camps-article-1.1618141
    Since everything was illegal in the Soviet Union, Russians just gave up and the USSR collapsed.
    Those who fail to learn history will be doomed to repeat it.­

    1. “Passports will be revoked”
      Impossible, too many Americans are dual citizens or residents of other countries.
      Mostly Fresh Off the Boat Asians and Indians but a fair number of Irish-Catholics, Eastern Europeans in New York.
      Also wealthy people in the 1% who live in the South of France most of the time.
      The US government will actually encourage broke senior citizens to live in Southeast Asia or Eastern Europe and more will go there simply to get by on a modest pension/social security check.
      “Lawyers will be arrested. Newspapers closed.”
      Jews are too powerful in the US to allow such a thing to happen and they are backed by their 40% of the proportion of the top 1% earners in the US.
      “Concentration camps opened”
      Nonsense. I suspect you are a teenager. There is not that sort of budget to hold so many people. Marijuana was legalized not for a moral reason but because the government cannot afford to keep all the Cheech and Chongs that get busted over and over for selling or possessing weed.
      “Taxes will be raised”
      This may happen anyhow as the economy shrinks and employed people have to may for more unemployed illiterates whose IQ is too low to function in a non-manufacture economy. In the old days if you showed up at the factory every day, you could have a job.
      “Neighborhood watch”
      Won’t matter as cities become like Detroit or St Louis or Baltimore.
      “Reporters will be arrested”
      Print media is a fading medium anyhow. As for internet journalism, anybody can start a blog and post stories from other blogs.
      “Americans will be forced to wear uniforms and attend study sessions”
      Only in prisons.
      “Wiretapping”
      Difficult with cell phones.
      “Government loudspeakers”
      What language? Spanish? A bunch of Cholos and Blacks will steal them and sell them to broadcast rap music off the top of the cars with…
      “BUM DE BUM BUM, I slapped dat bitch like a ho…my chains are solid gold…I fucked a million white ho’s…BUM DE BUM”

    3. I agree with a lot of what you say but Im not as pessimistic in the eventual outcome as yourself. You sound like you read and listen to a lot of people I myself have followed over the years. Alex Jones being a prime example, but after realising that many (if not all) of these people are just fronts for some intelligence agency I have now learnt to take what they say with a pinch of salt. I think with Jones there’s enough evidence out there to prove he has ties to Israeli intelligence. Im not saying we should give up the good fight, I just feel we have to take a good look at whats going on, dont be concerned so much with the effect, focus on the cause. I maybe wrong, but this website hasn’t ever addressed the sponsors/planners/enablers of our current situation (I haven’t gone through the archives so Im happy for Roosh to put me right). Once you know your enemy, or at least have a better knowledge of them, you’ll realise they are nothing to be feared and their greatest fear is that we all find out the truth behind our suffering.

  23. The real message is: only Alphas may notice the breasts of this Princess.
    It is offensive that Betas may think that it has anything to do with them. Ugh, the horror, the creeps.
    Typical female BS to be ignored.
    Women these days think everybody is a Beta who can be shamed into submission and apology for even daring to breath the same air as a woman.
    And the sad thing is, they are right in lots of cases.
    But we have to prove them wrong and to put them back to their place.

  24. Feminists are so full of shit. By the same argument a penis is just a tube of flesh and gristle.. but show me a feminist who doesn’t stare at a studly guy with a huge package, and I’ll show you a lesbian. (Who would then be staring at two lumps of fat).
    The fact is, women have been weaponizing their tits from day 1.. either using them to get something from a man she’s too lazy to obtain herself, or to shame another man who’s no use to her.

    1. You’re the first one to comment about this implicit nihilism that dwells within the feminist rhetoric. That’s really what it boils down to: if everything can be reduced to it’s material, then nothing has value and the end result is a complete nihilism.
      Every feminist who propagates this message is a nihilist. And I’m pretty sure not many of them would actually admit this because it would be a bit problematic for their ideology. Human beings, women included, would then be just sacks of meat and bone and therefore without value. Not really the conclusion a feminist wants.

  26. Staring at a woman’s breasts really cuts them down to size. It reminds them they are nothing more that little pieces of fuck meat and breeding chattel. The hot thots don’t have a problem with this, but the ugly ones do because they understand just how low their worth is on this meat market. They’d rather pretend this market doesn’t exist and that they’re really like men free of this burden.
    Lol
    Silly feminists

  28. “There is no logical connection between values and the material of things on which values may be assigned.”
    yes, but for example in the case of water the value is logicaly related to the specific material with physiological effects, so sometimes this connection exist?

    1. Technology vs. Value
      DIRK DIGGLER
      Yes, kids, in the days when Tab was a drink and Coke was a drink a 13 inch trouser snake or a pair of tits could make you a millionaire.
      To see a man getting a blowjob you had to go into a theater and jerk off, which was something only perverts did. So Playboy Magazine sold for $5 in 1980.
      Then along came VHS and males could beat off in their rooms in private. But these cost $30.
      Then the internet arrived and men could beat off for free.
      Dirk Diggler was reduced to jerking off for rednecks in pickups for $10.
      Then it was gone.

    2. In fact, there’s no logical connection even in that case. You assume this connection because you VALUE the effects of clean water on the human body: namely health and staying alive. If we take these value assumptions away, the connection disappears.
      There’s no LOGICAL relation. Only a relation based on certain value assumptions.

  30. @Benny: Thanks.
    1. I would allow both a quite strong church to grow, and secularity and religious pluralism to co-exist, in order to not repeat the mistakes of the past. This would also allow all of the Christian branches to co-exist.
    2. I would build a cultural and economic foundation based on strong masculinity, complementary sex roles (a pragmatic compromise between tradition and feminism), Apollonian/classic European culture, and a rational third way economy. Cosumerism and lower forms of hedonism should be secondary, not primary matters like they are today.
    3. I would find a balance between de facto ethno-nationalism and multiculturalism. Accepting minoritities and immigration in limited numbers.

  31. What breasts??? The manosphere is against breasts, unless they are obvious fakes as are the first woman’s in this post. Anything above a b-cup is “fat” to manospherians, lol! I don’t think looking at breasts is a problem for this crew.

    1. Not me. I celebrate reasonable variation with regard to female looks. So a girl can be 5,9″ and weigh 120 and be pretty, and a girl can be 5,1″ and almost have the same bodyweight and also be pretty. She can be white, black, mulatto, East Asian, hapa, Latina, Persian, Arab etc. It depends more on the individual than the population. Face, body, hair, clothes, skin tone – it’s the whole that matters.
      Personally I love big breasts, as long as they are not ugly and/or flabby. A thin girl with fairly big yet solid tits is a gift from God/nature, while fake tits are not so bad either. Me gusta D-cupo, compadre.

  32. There is a problem when those boobs have a fiancée with them
    I’ve grab a few brown people by the throat for starring at my missus as she held my hand
    White and black people know not to stare, Browns and asians don’t

    1. You (and your missus !!) are indeed a “pile of shit”.
      To start with:
      1. How do you know that “few brown” people are starring at your “missus” !? that’s only possible if you are looking/starring at them. Then why you are looking/starring at them in first place !? So its OK if you (or your missus) look/stare at “few brown” people but not otherwise !!??
      2. Why those “few brown” people are starring at your “missus” !? Is your missus showing off her flesh !? and/or is she “deliberately & desperately” dressed to get attention of opposite sex !??
      3. Are those “few brown” people only starring at your “missus” or at any other “bitchy, arrogant, unfeminine and ungrateful” whore/slut !??
      But there’s a good news, you “pile of shit” !! Brown People/Couple doesn’t do show put-up of “love” when in Public. They don’t showoff “affection/romance” by kissing in Public. They don’t do showoff “(physical) intimacy” when in Public.
      You have grabbed “few brown” people by their “throat” !? You did that because you are aware that you belong to the “majority” in this Country and you can easily escape without any “consequences and punishment” and also those “few brown” people, although capable of “crushing” you in split second, will not do it. As they cannot jeopardize their Career, for the sake of a retard who is a mangina and pussy maniac.

  34. I don’t believe in political correctness and self-apologies or excuses, so I’ll say it how I feel.
    —-
    Let’s establish something from the start:
    Women dress to attract and cause a reaction. Period. No “if’s” or “but’s”
    Women dress for other women – not for men. That’s particularly true at the workplace. Male attraction is an added afterthought/bonus, but not a primary objective.
    There’s never been a case when a woman would wear tight/revealing clothes/make-up, but was totally unaware of their impact on other men around her. It’s a lie.
    Socially, women are programmed NOT to approach men they fancy and start hitting on him – instead, they DO visual things that will hopefully make the man notice her and make the first move. It’s a given and had been in place for centuries.
    Showing cleavage/flashing boobs was one such “attractant” and has always been a surefire ‘illegal move’ that brought desired results.
    About the article:
    Who would write this type of Facebook rubbish?
    With a certainty of roughly 99%, whoever wrote it was:
    A.) A combative, man-hating 3rd wave intersectional non-binary rainbow-haired/rim glassed unwashed 300-lb pimply lesbian-feminist SJW, who despises any woman skinnier and prettier than her.
    or
    B.) Though unlikely, I hardly believe the “writer” was a bearded chicken-necked skinny-jeaned subservient Beta soy-boy excuse of a man – though possible, but not probable, as with the remaining levels of testosterone, they still occasionally glance at well-endowed females.
    Please understand, that as much as it’s thinly disguised in the article, it’s not really a social issue or cultural gender insensitivity, as it is a political statement. There’s an open season on ALL WHITE MALES. No permit needed.
    This article is squarely aimed at polite and non-threatening white men of somewhat higher socio-economic status and personal cultural level with OK impulse controls.
    It addresses them and them ONLY for just looking and not for commenting or acting – something that wouldn’t be the case in lower socio-economic areas, where females are normally more accustomed to being whistled at, picked on or “visually harassed”, and therefore don’t bite their tongues to come back at their offenders.
    This Facebook article is mainly about the issue of population control, eradicating true masculine traits, making males more docile and subservient to progressively more dominant out-of-control females.
    It’s rooted in hate for white men by left libtards, sexual minorities and their ilk.
    Looking for sex and attractive prospects has always been on our minds and these trash-talking illiterate “writers” are trying to revise our entire principles of evolution to suit them and their puppeteer’s anti-human needs.
    It will NEVER work as ALL breasts are beautiful and will always be the endless source of visual pleasure for all MEN. And women know it.

  35. As long as you`re a decent looking alpha-ish guy, women actually get disappointed if you don`t look at them. They don`t spend half their lives in front of the mirror for no reason. Of course she want`s you to notice the cleavage, that`s why it`s there to be seen:) The problem is that women don`t want attention from men they deem to be below their SMV as we all know, and they are getting more “aggressive” in enforcing that principle. (#MeToo etc.)

  36. You forgot one important thing; women put them out there to begin with. Why? Is wearing extremely tight clothing more comfortable? Are yoga pants necessary to shop at trader joes?
    And what about the Hollywood feminists who don’t want to be denigrated by being portrayed in certain ways in movies and yet, when allowed to dress themselves for a red carpet event they choose to dress in a manner to show off as much as possible? Or Halloween costumes. Seems like no matter what the costume the word slut is in front of it. Go look. Slut zombie, slut princess, slut vampire… …

  37. The biggest contradiction in this stupidity is that if boobs are ‘useless fatty material that mean nothing’ then it would mean nothing if guys just stared at them. Stupid cunts don’t realize that (lack of) logic.

  38. Clicked on this post purely for the boob shots. Didn’t see that many boob shots.

  41. Okay, as a teenage girl, I completely understand this article. But, I think it is important to note that there is a difference between looking and leering. I’m a shrimp of a girl with DDDs, and men and women alike look at my breasts (even in my school polos, so don’t start with that whole “You display them, you slut!” spiel). I would probably look at them too. I get it, they stick out like a sore thumb. But leering is when an old, fat man shamelessly stares at me for minutes at a time in an obviously predatory way. It’s uncomfortable and rude. Making clear that the only thing on your mind is my breasts only shows that you are immature, unintelligent, and frankly, a sad beta.

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