111 thoughts on “Experts Have The Years Wrong When It Comes To Baby Boomers, Generation X, And Millennials”

1. I will forever argue that the “Boomer” generation can be split between those born between 1946 and 1955, and 1956 to 1964. I’m in the second group, and much more oriented to Free Markets and Independence than the loser who make up the first 1/2 of the general group. The Vietnam War impacted these jerks more than it did my part of the boomer generation. We’re not responsible for sucking the rest of you dry, that’s a function of the WWII generation and their children, my father was a Korean War vet, and of a totally different mindset than his older brothers.

   1. Hmmm…I have my doubts, I am sure you are just about as much a part of the problem, just in your own unique way. “…much more oriented to Free Markets and Independence” that is just the same stereotypical and subjective statement I have ever heard over and over again, it literally has no meaning whatsoever. That is no different than the first and second wave feminists who say that feminism was just about equality and helping the family, lol. White guilt and the loss of nationalism is what destroyed us…governments, economic policies, and culture are all downstream of that.

      1. Wes the Great
         “White guilt and the loss of nationalism is what destroyed us…governments, economic policies, and culture are all downstream of that.”
         Agreed.

      2. Born in 1956 here. I have been primarily oriented toward Blood and Soil since I was a boy, and economic theory be damned, but that’s probably because my father fought on the losing side in World War II and instilled within me the importance of keeping our family bloodline pure and strong. I’m an oddball within my generational cohort because of this.

         1. HYPER
            You German or German-American?

         2. I’m replying here to Madman Marz, who asked if I’m German or German-American (I don’t see a “Reply” option after his comment): I’m neither – I’m Finnish-American. Finland fought on the German side against the Soviet Union from 1941-44.

         3. Don’t feel bad.. My German great-grandfather fought against the country of his family…after he married a Pole. Then he came home, lived in the same house until he died, but not before watching the entire neighborhood/area go from lily-white, to all-black…All the while despising blacks. You have to wonder what these guys were thinking back then. Plenty of commentary, from men like Charles Lindbergh, spelled out the exact scenario that would happen if we ‘won.’

         4. Replying to Weimar Republican:
            I don’t feel bad at all – on the contrary, my father was proud to have served in the army of the land of his birth against a mighty and ruthless power that had tried to conquer his homeland. If the Germans had not provided military assistance to Finland then the latter country would have gone under after a fierce resistance, and my father would have wound up as a guerrilla fighter in the woods. I probably would never have been born. So I owe my life to my father and his generation of Finns, and to their German ally. I am grateful to them and I thank them from the bottom of my heart, and with deep humility. I am fiercely proud to be his son (and may he rest in peace). No, there is nothing to feel bad about at all. As for your great-grandfather, he thought that he was doing the right thing at the time, and really, most young men of that age aren’t sophisticated enough to figure out what is really going on, so they’re unfortunately easily manipulated. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was the catalyst that set the patriotic fever into overdrive among young American men, and without that attack it’s doubtful that the U.S. would have gotten into that war – in fact, public opinion polls as late as October 1941 showed that 83% of the U.S. population was opposed to getting involved in that conflict.

      3. @Wes, wanted to say/talk about the “white guilt” (although nothing negative…) But my favorite has agreed with what you said, so I give up !!
         By the way, I didn’t down vote!

      4. Well, Wes (the great), maybe to a mono-synoptic cretin, “Free Markets and Independence…” “has no meaning whatsoever.” To people like me it means exactly what it says. I understand that in a life devoted to the realization that one leads a vacuous existence, the free market and the ideas inherent in the Enlightenment mean nothing. However, that’s what makes you “great” Wes, the fact that you recognize that your life is meaningless, because (insert names of the nasty baby boomers you blame for your problems..) have ruined your short-nasty-brutish life.

   2. Like the cover picture of this article says, I’m a 1983 birther and I can’t begin to tell you how many times I’ve been either lumped into the infants of Generation X or the true Methusela’s of the Millennials.
      Thing is the dinosaur media is talking about “Millennials” like I’m still supposed to be young or some shit. The eldest Gen Z’ers (born mid-late 90’s) are ADULTS now themselves.

   3. It can be hard to say with such a small sample and a lot of self selecting goes on, but. . .
      My father and all my uncles are war babies and they are/were right wing. I am early Gen-X and also conservative; so are my friends of the same age. My younger sister was born in ’72 and is fairly liberal. My younger brother was born in 82 and is a hipster liberal. Oddly my mother had a second and third husband who were significantly younger, so born late 50s” one was a flaming commie and the other is a conservative (ex0military)

   4. I totally agree. I was born in ’64, and never understood how I was a boomer. (post war baby boom). My grandfather was in WWII (not my dad). But my Dad was in Vietnam in ’66.

      1. It has nothing to do with whether or not your father served in ww2, it has everything to do with the culture and system that you where born in and shaped into…baby boomers where born into the golden age of America when we were at the height of power, which is what makes them so retarded and childlike in their thinking.

         1. Actually that is the definition of what baby boomer, Gen X and millennial has become. What baby boomer has always meant up until recent years, were those who were born after the return of the nearly 13 million service members from WWII. A boom of births occurred during the 50’s due in part to the complete return from the poor economy of the depression 1930’s. In addition, there was a boom of marriages. Men could support families due to the boom in jobs and those who attended college because of the newly created GI Bill. Where it became your definition, was the 1960’s where my fathers gen (baby boomers) all benefited tremendously because the US had the only standing fully functional economy. Europe and Asia didn’t fully recover until later. So plenty of jobs for all men.
            My argument is that by the time I was old enough to work (those born in the early to mid 60’s defined as also BB’s) the economic boom that was…petered out in the 70’s. OPEC Controlled oil and that pushed the energy starved US in a down turn. We didn’t the recession that followed decline until the economic reforms Reagan put in place turned the economy around in the late 80’s and early 90’s…

   5. @Capndiesalot You certainly can split the boomer generation down the middle. The first half were generally conservative, and some still are. While your half , which I like to call the “Dukes of Hazzard” generation, sold us out.

   6. I’m a Gen X born in 1979 and 90% of all babyboomer bosses I had at my jobs from 1996-2017 were assholes. No social skills, no redeemable qualities whatsoever, treated reserved or quiet white men like crap while constantly giving women and minorities more managerial roles.
      I’m posting this because most of my bosses during this time period were of the babyboomer generation. In 2000, at some piece of crap retail job, I was terminated from employment by a 5’9″ portly babyboomer boss with melon head and a crater face for allegedly looking at a fellow female employee the wrong way. Even though the job was crap, I came in on time, did my job, and hassled NO ONE…
      I realize now that I was dealing with a piece of crap, dog shit generation that most likely (I can’t prove it) relished in giving certain people a difficult time. I went to a Catholic school from 1983-1995 and had no problem with any of my babyboomer teachers because I did my homework and asked questions but when I transferred to a public school run by the state, about half of them were insane ‘liberal’ garbage. .
      It wasn’t until I was 27 years old in 2007 that people were buying up their first smartphones (mostly blackberries, androids, and Iphones)

   7. As a Norwegian born in early 1962, I cant`t identify myself as a Baby Boomer. I have given the TV-seeing Baby Boomers a hard time, my old fart neighbours can tell you that.
      I have always had that opinion that the last Baby Boomer was born in 1955-1956. Hell, the WWII was past over 10 years ago (well, not for the poor Germans), and the (false imagined) belief in “War-is-over” that created a “Boom” of babies, leveled off.
      The reflections and conciderations in this article apply mostly to USA/America. In Norway (and most of Europa?) we had a slow, but more steady, economical rising. Norway was 5-10 years behind USA and their trends (thank God, I say today). The Hippie-age here In Norway I will say was between 1969 to 1975. I still remember the two 16 years old hippiegirls at high school wearing brown skin jackets filled with sheep wool and colourful headbands, in 1975.
      Still , as a 13 year old boy I never participaded in any Hippie-age, as I will define a Baby Boomer was involved in.
      Others with my (former) neighbour, born in 1953. As a heavy smoker and heavy booze drinking woman, she told about a heavy Rolling Stones concert in Germany i 1973, raving in this worst period as a typical hippie (Baby Boomer!). Her attitude reminded me of an another known person of the same age; Janis Joplin, and her up and downs. She loved to “put in place” the other neighbours born between 1928 and 1943 (you know, those living in the outer space of internet age).
      Funny, but the first time I saw a black person in real life (not on TV, as (((Kunte Kinte))) ), I was 19 years old. In 1981.

      1. * Reminded = She died 2 years ago. No wonder. RIP.

2. I was born in ’65. Parents divorced when I was six. Grew up in near poverty.
   Not bitchin’ and whining. But I somewhat agree with this article.
   In the seventies rock ‘n roll was gigantic. Rock music festivals abounded. Rock stars dominated the charts. And the rock star lifestyle was the envy of all.
   Disco was dominate in the late seventies but vanished sometime in mid nineteen eighty.
   Generation X?
   Millenial?
   Baby boomer?
   We’re all fucked.
   The only thing better now than it was then is technology. In particular communication.
   Society itself is worse and sinking lower everyday.
   Common denominator! Democrats and Republicans still make the laws. They are running (ruining) things.
   Of course, without free flow of information we have now, we did not have a clue that bankers and globalists run this country (USA). Silly me, I thought Ronald Reagan was a stand up guy.
   Anyway, USA shall not get better anytime soon. My fitness and health won’t allow me to fight. God bless the true patriots who are nowhere to be found in government service. Government service is correct. Those people there are not serving their country.

   1. “Anyway, USA shall not get better anytime soon. ”
      Agree EE. We have a long way to go before (if) it gets better. I figure I have perhaps 30 years left unless they invent some type of “Bicentennial Man” like ways to extend life. Things are going to get worse in those 30 years. Probably much worse.

      1. AutomaticSlim
         You are more optimistic than me. I give it until 2030 if we’re lucky. It only takes the right false flag event and the ship sinks fast.
         Plus, look at national debt. Does anyone really believe USA will pay all that?

         1. Yeah, you are most likely correct.
            RIP USA. At least the one we grew up in.

         2. Relax, you’re in good hands, the next 2 weeks will be interesting. I assume the drop will be April 18th. Seriously, this is amazing news. Rejoice.
            

         3. @Edward Easterling: Bible prophesy puts the Last Generation on Earth in the 40 year window spanning from 1993 to 2033. Check out Truth Shock TV’s channel on YouTube, particularly the video:(2017-2018)Warning: Last Generation is Now. God Bless.

   2. Early 70s parents divorced en masse beginning 71-72 with mothers like lemmings walking out to be ‘independent’. The Atlantic accent was dropped in boob tube TV shows and Sonny and Cher was a standard with hippie dress now fashionable. Married mothers literally quit their domestic cooking jobs overnight and ironing boards were tossed into backyards to rust. When those feminist talking heads hit the mainstream talk shows in 71 telling women to “Run Jane Run”, it was something most domestic women had never heard before. They ate it up like lemmings eating an ‘independence’ pill. It wasn’t like the red pill but was some kind of new ‘pill’ that tripped all logic circuits in untold numbers of simple minded domesticated mothers and disrupted countless households. People are always suckers to the newest fad at the get go, when it first rolls around. Over a two year period 70-71, the mindset flipped rapidly. It was like the early 90s when over another two year period rap went from hood garbage to mainstream Disney pushed on white suburbanites. Another rapid cultural scene change. BOOB TUBE as usual was driving the cultural acceptance meters.
      Another split was with the Reagan landslide in 81. Two years previous a high school yearbook showed majority hippie attire whereas 82 on you had a pro Reagan rejection of hippie culture where you saw males with Pat Buchannan buzz cuts. Tee shirts declined and conservative collard shirts and suits were norm for high school football players during awards and for student council figures. With Reagan a conservative sweep in culture was evident.
      Post Vietnam 76 – 79 many attest the Army was the place to get d*r*u*g*s. The military lower ranks were awash with court marshalls for dope in this early period of idle peacetime. Then major ad campaigns later in Reagan years “Be All You Can Be” reflected a somewhat cleaned up military reflecting a more neocon patriotism.
      It seems major pop culture splits occurred 70-71, 80-81 and 89-91.

      1. MCGOO
         You are right, 1982 was still the seventies to some degree. If you watch FIRST BLOOD Rambo is mistaken for a hippie and harassed by cops.
         FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT reflects the end of this.

         1. First Blood was probably filmed in either 1980-81…Hulk Hogan even said that the scene he filmed in Rocky 3 was in 1979, 3 full years before it was released in ’82. By 1983, most films didn’t look like ’70’s at all!

      2. I always find your breakdowns on on social/ cultural change and attempt to pin-point exactly when they happened interesting.
         I disagree with the premise of this article that I am a ‘Gen X’- I’d consider myself Gen Y HOWEVER- as I’ve said before, to a large degree, I think there’s a split to Gen Y. Part 1 were born for virtually the entirety of the Reagan era (1981-1989) and Part 2 were born 1990- early 2000’s.
         It’s the second half of Gen Y that make me (in my early 30’s) identifying with the grumpy old men I used to see in movies and TV shows, always grumbling about “the kids these days” and wondering why they had such a stick up their arse?
         The unusual thing is that a lot of these “kids” I have such disdain for are less than a decade younger than me…

         1. Outside the family (public) schooling has an impact on siblings that can be seen in large families where the parent’s reproductive footprint spans the years between culture splits. A youngest sibling in the 80s can be conservative whereas the eldest brother 10 years older is a long haired stoner. Sometimes only two years shows drastic differences. I knew a few large families where siblings in the same household had drastically different views and culture. They were all public educated.
            NORMALLY the entire brood should reflect the same culture since they are of the exact same bloodlne and parental influence. THIS DEMONSTRATES how big an impact public schooling has in overriding the family unit. The kids may be living under the same roof until they’re 18, but the state education propagandists have already kidnapped their minds.

   3. Amen dude. I was born in 67 and a veteran. My parents are still married and in their late 70s. Had a very stable home life and upbringing. after my military service, I got red pilled hard going into divorce number 2.

      1. I don’t know how any blue-pill man would even have the ability to get laid, let alone married. I didn’t really start getting pussy until I was red-pilled. I was that clueless. I think that’s why they always stressed how it was called ‘getting lucky.’

3. Generation X vs. XY
   I’d argue that Gen X born from 1973 on are sort of an X Y generation. Marshall Mathers, for instance, was born in 1972 and is way different than Nirvana or Pearl Jam.
   Our generation was born in the 70’s but our formative years were the 1980’s. Reagan, crack cocaine, the Wall coming down when we were in grade school etc.
   Gen X born in the 1960’s are different. These were the true-blue nihilistic alternative grunge era types. Those of us who graduated from high school in 1992 on came of age when in the internet, dot.com etc. and were in our 20’s on September 11th, 2001 (I was 27 for example).

   1. I was born in 66.
      I liked KISS, Aerosmith and AC/DC.
      Still do.

      1. AUTOMATIC
         You probably remember an era when blacks and whites had their own radio stations and YO!MTV raps before all of the sudden, rap ruled the airwaves.

         1. Aerosmith pretty much created the rap “sensation”. Whites barely knew what it was before they did that video with Run-DMC.

         2. AUTOMATIC
            I’d have to give 3 Jews credit for bringing rap into the mainstream but this only happened because they fused it with hard rock.
            Blacks actually listened to hard rock until about 1985. They were into Led Zeppelin and a bunch of bands none of them had heard of.
            Early rap actually sounds like Disco and Funk from the 70’s.

         3. @MM
            If I remember correctly, “The Beastie Boys” came after Run-DMC covered “Walk This Way”. But I have lost so many brain cells to alcohol over the years, so perhaps you are right.

         4. AUTOMATIC
            BEASTIE BOYS came out in 87 and WALK THIS WAY was 1986.
            The Beastie Boys were the first “wiggers” (This was back when Jews lived in the hood as children of slumlords and liquor store owners on the margins of the ghetto) and this is why “Beatie Boy” is a slur for a low-class Jew (Often used by upper class Jews).

         5. Automatic Slim:
            Beastie Boys formed the same time as Run DMC in the early eighties. License to Ill came out in 86, same year as Aerosmith and Run DMC put out “Walk this Way” together. They really came up side-by-side. Obviously rap was primarily of black culture, but there were plenty of whites doing it in its formative years. And most whites were well aware of breakdancing, beatboxing, and other aspects of hip-hop culture well before ’86. For instance both Breakin and Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo were from ’84.

         6. I heard the whole club thing where white women shamelessly grind on black men and dance to black beats did not really exist even in the 90s (thus far less miscegenation). Rap and clubbing seems like it is dying out now (Thank God) when it felt like it would never end. I think it is because women love to dance since it simulates sex, neatly dovetailing their implicit nature. Rock is not good music to dance to, hence all male genres (metal). It just feels like all music has died in just the last few years because nobody even plays guitar anymore or goes to concerts. Even I have quit playing guitar in the last year. I can’t see it getting me laid anymore and I just don’t care about music now for some reason.

      2. Slim, interesting factoid: the term ‘Rock and Roll’ is a coined term resurrected in the 50s for want of no better a name to call the new fad music that was replacing ‘SWING’ and the big band sound of the post war decade. Benny Goodman and Sinatra were still popular in ’55, but with Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis and Buddy Holly, this new garage band sounding raw electric guitar music with drums and high energy vocals needed a name.
         ‘ROCK AND ROLL’ was a very old term believe it or not. It was borrowed from the old south. ‘Rock and Roll’ was a slave era euphamism that BLACK PEOPLE used to refer to sex. Yes in the old Dixie south, when Rufus wanted to ruff it up with Claudia in the stables, he’d say “hey baby let’s rock and roll”. It was black people HAVING SEX. So when you hear people say “I love rock and roll” today . . . heh the joke’s on them. Sheesh what they’re really saying is that they like voyeuring and watching black people have sex.

         1. I think they invented the term, but they didn’t necessarily invent the genre. I see it more of a brief intersection of black music (blues, R & B, jazz) with white music (folk, country, baroque) entwined for about one decade immediately postwar. Why else would all of these guys like Fats Domino and B.B. King virtually disappear after Elvis? There was no black punk rockers, heavy metal or even progressive rock (aside from Hendrix).
            Doo-wop and the big band thing could be a different story though.

4. I absolutely associate “baby boomers” being born of the WW2 generation and ending by 1964. Makes no sense to extend to 1975. These are the hippies from the 60s and also the yuppies from the early 80s. The older ones helped push for the unconstitutional civil rights legislation that are an affront to individual liberty, freedom of association and private property rights. And the great society programs as well, which gave handouts to the unmotivated who would otherwise would be forced to work. Throw in the 1965 immigration act, and the foundation was laid for the destruction of a once great country.
   But is not entirely their fault. Not by a long shot. Their parents, the “WW2/greatest” generation allowed it to happen. They could have voted it down. But they did not. Not sure why. Misplaced Christian values? White guilt? The misguided belief that after winning the war, compassion towards the less capable would be repaid with gratitude and good behavior? Who know. But the results are undeniable, and they are awful. I sometimes wonder what the old ones who are still around think when they see their great-grandaughter’s date for the junior prom.

   1. AutomaticSlim
      “I sometimes wonder what the old ones who are still around think when they see their great-grandaughter’s date for the junior prom.”
      They overlook the fact that all the rat’s asses they loved so much and elected passed legislation that manifested all this. It’s not their fault. Ted Kennedy and Ronald Reagan were superb liars.
      Why couldn’t anybody back then look at how the war in Vietnam was being waged and realize something is wrong?
      Chain migration! Does anybody really believe that’s how to keep a Republic strong and secure?

      1. EDWARD
         Nobody back then ever thought the economy would come down to this.
         I graduated from high school in 1992 and when I was young everybody expected to graduate with a Bachelor’s degree and hold a decent job.
         You have to remember that teenagers could get jobs and move out when they were 17, 18. I was 19 when I left home and a little older than average.
         I’ve remarked on this before but it is one reason that pornography was regarded as being for losers and serial killers back then. Teenagers did not hang around sleazy porn stores. You had your own apartment and a car and a job at 18 so you could get laid. It is harder for Gen Y to meet women with no decent job, living at home, offering nothing. Coupled of course with the fact that women do not value traditional relationships anyhow and would rather have a threesome with Chad in his hotel with his cocaine and his champagne.
         The ghetto was not completely on welfare like it is today. There were jobs. Crack dealers had legitimate business fronts. Watch COLORS. There was a time when street gangs had much more money.
         What happened is that boomers thought it would last forever.

         1. Very well said.
            “boomers thought it would last forever.” – And they were right.
            ..you just need to add “for them”.

         2. @manMAN, now here! I totally agree with what you said. Although I was here in the 2000’s, my grand father (own brother of my grand father) came to this Country (he is a Heart Surgeon) in 1968! and I hear many of these things & happenings here through my Uncles & Aunts.
            Interesting Article with more interesting comments!

         3. Err!
            read: @madMAN !!

         4. RAVI
            The 1928 Immigration Act stopped European immigration to the US (It was intended to prevent Italian mafia getting stronger via prohibition and also anarchists).
            1965 Immigration Act (Supposedly ushered in by Jews) ushered in the Asians.
            In the US this makes sense. There’s a 50 year gap.
            Canada is different. Sikhs poured in during the seventies.

         5. RAVI
            So you’re in high school. This is the one of the features of this site-you have 15 year old males who live at home and are still told what time to go to bed posing as middle-aged men.
            However, it does add some variety to the site. The young and naive who have never been laid and middle-aged males who have owned and lost houses.

         6. RAVI
            Born in the 2000’s! Jeez, what are you, like in the 9th grade?

         7. RAVI
            Gotta ask you.
            You’re like in the 9th grade? Getting your driver’s license this year?
            I mean people born in 2002 would be 15 going on 16 at the moment.

   2. AUTOMATIC SLIM
      I’d actually say that the Yuppie era was from about 1984 onward. Prior to that it was the Me Decade and some of the anti-materialism of the hippie era stuck around until Disco was dead in 1983.
      The early 80’s was actually the nadir of the 1970’s-watch FAST TIMES with Sean Penn. Kids smoked pot in school, flares and butterfly collars were everywhere, Disco was not dead yet, long hair was the norm, 15 year old girls lost their virginity to 30 year old men.
      Posters here will go on about social decay now but in my opinion the early 80’s was really a nadir and it was one reason Reagan was re-elected.
      If you watch the KARATE KID this was the beginning of the 1980’s-Johnny in his parachute pants and zipper jackets with Brit synth blazing on the soundtrack. The 80’s as we knew them really began in about 1983 when pot went out of style, hippies cut their hair, Disco became a joke. I think the turning point was sometime in 1983.
      I was born in 1974 and the 1980’s actually dragged into about 1991 when Nirvana replaced Warrant and the Wall came down and people started wearing flannel and Doc Martins.
      Similarly the decadent, fuck it 90’s did not end until the early 2000’s. If you watch GO or a bunch of other films from 1999 they seem incredibly dated.

      1. @ MM
         “GO”.
         Katie Holmes was cute in that one.
         Long before she became a freakish Page 6 fixture.

         1. AUTOMATIC
            It seems dated now because of 9-11, the election of Bush etc.
            What is also strange is that the 90’s was a short decade-they started in 1992 and ended in 2001.

      2. That’s about right. The Yuppie Handbook by Marissa Piesman and Marilee Hartley came out in 1983, but the yuppie era is dying as numerous economists and labor analysts have pointed out the great decline in demand for cognitive skills starting around 2000. Thus these type of prestige jobs will become a lot harder to get (and they haven’t been easy to get now for at least 20 years), and will be apportioned on the basis of “diversity, “inclusion”, etc. but more likely through family connections. Oh, and graduates of Podunk State need not apply.
         As for the time brackets, the Baby Boom is generally recognized to have started in 1946 (it is, after all, the POST-WAR Baby Boom) and ended in 1964, the last year of 4 million+ births recorded. “Generation X” (otherwise and previously known as the “Baby Bust) ran from 1965 to 1976. Total births declined almost monotonically during those years, bottoming out in 1973 and bouncing along until 1976. The “Baby Boom Echo” (Millenials) started in 1977 with rising numbers through 1995, after which iGen started. This last group continues to this day, and is characterized by being the first in which white babies comprise less than half of the total born.

      3. The worst fashion ‘statement’ that seemed like it would never end was ‘sagging’ (prison rape thing). It seemed to drag on from the mid 90s until about 2006, when it got replaced by cartoon characters on book bags by grown (black) men. Sadly though, it seems the high-waist mom jeans have come roaring back in the last few years with women. I was really angry about it early on, but I’ve made my peace with it, I guess. The rest of it seems to be more revealing nowadays anyway, like workout spanx, as opposed to those awful 90s when it just seemed like baggy, wrinkly, bright blue jeans that weren’t painted on like now.
         The other one that really bothered me in the last 10 years is the flat-billed baseball cap, which white people so readily adopted. I guess blacks thought it looked cool if they wore hats with the price tag still on it like they just stole it from the store. I can’t take it seriously, but clearly many people do. I guess that was the equivalent to the 90s backward baseball hat, which Ken Griffey Jr. seemed to have invented. But if you watch tv shows from the early 90s (like In Living Color), they have flattish hats, but there is still a slight bend in it, like it was pulled right out of the box, but not as some fashion statement like it is today where it looks so flat that it got ironed.
         But the most annoying fashion statement of all time was my freshman year of high school…everybody that entire year starting splitting the bottom of their pants. It made no sense to me. I think they did it so that they didn’t ‘high-water.’ But all it did was shred their pants when it got caught on anything. Then the manufactured ripped jeans with holes and unspooled threat hanging took off during my high school years, where everybody looked like they shopped at a flea market.

5. This is all wrong. Generations are in 18 year increments based upon the age of reaching adulthood. With that in mind we only need to view the post WW2 generations as follows:
   Baby Boomers: born 1946-1964
   Generation X: born 1965-1983
   Millennials: born 1984-2002
   Generation whatever: 2003-2021

   1. Those timelines look right to me as well.

      1. AUTOMATIC
         I’d say that people born in 1964 are not “boomers” whereas people born from 1965 to 1981 fit into the same cultural category-Kurt Cobain was born in 1967 but 15 year old kids in 1996 were wearing flannel and listening to Nirvana.
         You have to remember that the pioneers of Grunge were quite old-Eddie Vedder was born in 1965.
         Eminem, for example, is the same age as Ethan Hawke and was definitely Generation X but black music and culture did not crossover until the late 90’s.
         One reason for this, in my opinion, is that ethnic boundaries for whites blurred. Prior to the 1990’s whites lived in ethnic communities-Jews in one part of town, Irish-Americans and Italians in another, Polish in another and European-Americans had their own culture, languages, etc. Then they went fully suburban and this was kind of lost.

   2. “Generation whatever…”
      Let’s call it generation snowflake for accuracy

   3. Your timeline looks about right to me. There’s always a little blurriness about where the edges of each generation lies, but that usually only varies by about +/- 2 years. The article’s author clearly doesn’t know where to draw the line between Millennials (1990-2013) and Gen Z (2004-?), as there’s an 8 year overlap between the two generations.

      1. Good catch. Typo on my part. But if you follow the pattern you’ll see that I meant 2014 there

   4. I was born in ’83 and consider myself a millennial.

      1. JIZM
         I’d say you are on the cusp. You were a teenager in the 1990’s and anybody who was a teenager in the 90’s is sort of formed by nineties culture.

6. Three thing s define a generation in terms of culture. First, your parents generation. Two, the cultural mode of the country when you were born. Three, the culture that you came of age in (age 15 to 23).
   By this standard, boomers were born in the late 40 to early 60’s and had WWII generation parents. Gen X had silents as parents and were born in mid 60’s to late 70’s. The dividing line between boomer and Gen X is vague. My parents were WWII’s (I was a very late birth) but nearly all of my friends and classmates had silents as parents. Thus, I was spared the divorce revolution (which hit my city in the early 70’s) that affected at least 50% of my classmates. I’m kind of both boomer and Gen X.
   The dividing line between Gen X and Millennial is birth year of 1980. The echo boom started around 1980. 1980 was year zero of yuppidom and 1981 was the first year of the Reagan era optimism. Also, the majority of starting parents were boomers starting in the late 70’s as the silent women had aged out of their child bearing years.
   My generation came of age in the 80’s. But the Gen X came of age in the early 90’s. I was never into grunge music. But the guys 5-7 years younger than me absolutely loved the stuff. Of course, I was living in Japan at the time and, thus, didn’t know what grunge music was until a friend pointed it out to me while sitting in a bar in Roppongi around ’94 or so.
   It seems to me that Millennials are divided into two generations. The early Millennials, those born in the 80’s are somewhat Gen X like in their style and outlook. I think they are generally a good generation. having hired them as employees, I have mostly a positive impression of them. It is the later Millennials, those born from 1990 and after, that I have my doubts about. It is these people who are caught up in all of the far left crap I hear about from the college campus scene.
   I don’t know about Gen Z, other than I would define them as the offspring of Gen X parents. Millennials are the children of the boomers, born during the so-called “Great Moderation” (80’s and 90’s). Gen Z are the children of Gen X, born during the oughts and beyond. Some claim that Gen Z will be “conservative” (calling them Generation Zyklon). I think its way too early to make this call. Wait until the mid 20’s to make this call.
   At least that’s how it looks to me.

   1. ABELARD
      Gen X had solid Boomer parents born in the 1940’s with a few outliers in the early fifties (Mostly lower middle class or lower class whose parents were 21 when they were born in 1975 or something).
      I was born in 1974 and am typical-my Dad was finishing a tour as an army medic, listened to the Beatles, my parents were the children of first-generation Americans, etc.
      That is typical of Gen X.

      1. I’m not typical Gen X because I was born in 1970 and both my parents were born in the 1920’s so I lucked out and did not have Baby Boomer parents. In fact I was the only kid in my grade who could boast that my dad fought in WW2 whereas most of peer’s dad’s were either Vietnam vets or Hippies.

         1. Similar.
            My parents both grew up in the depression. My mother especially was very frugal — the type that would always buy the cheap clothes & sneakers (even though we could afford much better) because I would just “outgrow it”. Was not until I was older (maybe 11 or 12) when I realized that I was the only one wearing plaid polyester pants when everyone else was wearing Levis.
            The kids my age with younger parents seemed to have a much easier time getting along with their parents than I did. Perhaps because the younger parents were more in tune with making sure their kids “fit in”. But then again, my mother was an evil witch (and not just because of the cheap clothes), so that just might have been part of the problem. May her soul rot in hell.

         2. GREATEST
            Your parents were my age-early forties?

         3. MM, I can beat that ………
            My dad was born in 1910, my son was born in 2012.
            That works out as 50 years between generations.

      2. You’re right. Some boomers started having kids in the late 60’s and early 70’s. However, the birth rate (for whites) was relatively low throughout the 70’s and began increasing around ’78-79. Thus most Gen X’er had boomer parents. I think what made Gen X different from Millennials is that you guys were born in the 70’s, a time of stagnation, cynicism, and a lot of partying and drug use. The 80’s, in contrast, was relatively straight-laced as well as being a much more optimistic time. Another social factor is that the boomers began defining “adult culture” starting around ’77 and were completely dominating it by 1981. This is another social factor that separates Gen X from Millennials in my opinion.

         1. ABELARD
            This is true. Most people born in the 1970’s had Boomer parents born in the 40’s.

         2. @madman marz: my dad was born in 1923 and my mother in 1928 so they were 47 and 42 respectively when I was born into this world.

   2. This is the best description I’ve read on the baby boomer to millennial generations.

   3. “It is the later Millennials, those born from 1990 and after, that I have my doubts about. It is these people who are caught up in all of the far left crap I hear about from the college campus scene.”
      Got that right. I see the older half of that generation (starting with Reagan’s election and ending with the close of the ’80’s) as being more traditional in their outlook and attitude than those born 1990 and afterwards. I’d suggest that a majority of the alt-right, “conservative is the new black” brigade are either this 80’s half of Gen Y or the post-millennials. The young ones have seen the degeneracy and lemming-like march of their older brothers/ sisters/ cousins/ people in the media and are much more informed- they’ve been brought up recognising that the MSM is partisan rubbish and can already see naked Emperor- Cultural Marxism- for what it is.
      I don’t know what’ll become of the latter half of Gen Y (I’m guessing a modern version of the burned out Boomer hippies) but I have faith in the generation that follows them. Just might be a few more marriage-worthy girls from this new generation too, looking for an experienced older man with similar values to them…we’ll wait and see…

7. OK listen up,
   Here are the
   generations:
   ~1983 to ~1995
   ~1972 to ~1984
   ~1959 to ~1971
   ~1940 to ~1958
   ~1914 to ~1939
   (some of those
   years overlap)

8. Americans stop complaining the whole world is getting destroyed its not as if your country is the only one. Eu,Asia Africa are also facing same issues as is written in the bible other societies where already destroyed but your faith in Jesus that helps with eternal life and u escaping judgment for your sin this crazy world shall soon pass the liberals will have their time and they will suffer more for it.

   1. Jesus is the problem,
      Christian countries are the only ones losing their culture. Divorce rape only happens in Christian countries. Jesus believes in cultural Marxism and is the one responsible for spreading it.

   2. @Keith,
      *** Kaliyuga and Kalki ***

9. Boomers with a nearly 30 year range, extending all the way into the 1970s? Thats just downright absurd. You’re literally placing parents and their children in the same generation, and not just a handful but a very large population of them. The experience of the cohort born in the 70s, who had their childhood and teen years in the 80s and went to college in the 90s, is nothing at all similar to someone born during the Eisenhower administration who went to college to avoid getting drafted for Vietnam.
   The postwar WWII boom in baby births–from which Boomers derived their name–was long over by 1970, and in fact ended in the mid 60s. The book Generation X, which gave that generation its name, came out in the early 90s and was about the cohort born in the late 60s who were at that time already in the world of adulthood.
   Remember that historically parents had children at younger ages than they do now. In the 60s and 70s parents would be 20-25 years older than their children, whereas now its more like 28-33 years. You’re also conflating the time period in which someone is born with the culture of that time. Someone born in 1985 has no real memory of the 80s or the cultural impact of the music and movies and politics of that era; they weren’t shaped by Star Wars and John Waters movies, they never moonwalked in school or watched the Cosby show except in reruns. The defining feature of Gen X is their connection to the culture of the 80s (look up the term “child of the 80s”), and you’ve shifted that to a cohort born primarily after this time period. Likewise the defining feature of the Millennials is their connection to 90s youth culture and the turn of the century with the 2000 election crisis, Y2K, 9/11, and the emerging ubiquity of the internet and cell phones. And you’ve shifted all that to Gen X somehow as by your ranges the oldest millennials would be 11 when 9/11 happened.

   1. OGRE
      John Waters had scant impact on the 80’s. His audience was gay until he made that Johnny Depp film and Serial Mom.
      Cult and independent films were quite irrelevant to the eighties. This was era of the big-budget blockbusters like GHOST BUSTERS although VHS ushered in a market for B movies that is gone now.

      1. I misspoke. I meant to say John Hughes movies.

10. Two things you have to look at in defining “generations” is the demographic distribution and the economic reality that they grew up in and into. I was born in (late) ’66 by which time the actual Baby Boom was abating. Fertility rates had crashed although they were still above replacement rate; however, they had also reached an inflection point where the decline was slowing.
    Roughly 20 years later the pig was still in the python and Boomers in their late 20s and 30s where clogging up the corporate hierarchies in middle management positions. A girlfriend of mine who was slightly older went right to work out of high school during the crazy ’80s and – with no post-secondary education – was making $80k+ towards the end of the decade (about $178k with inflation today). She made the mistake of travelling for a few years and the bottom fell out of everything in the early ’90s with that recession.
    My point here is that job prospects for graduates of high school and college changed drastically between about 1988 and 1990, in other words for those born between about ’66 and ’72 give or take. It would be a stretch to start Gen-X as late as ’74.
    Politically, you can look at landmark event and trace them to generations that might be counter-intuitive. The Berlin Wall protests peaked in 1989 and German Reunification happened the following year. Unless you were living there, 15 and 16 year olds were probably not following the import of the unfolding events. At the time I was a corporal in the Canadian military who regularly trained again invading “Fantasians” coming over the artic so I was a lot more in tune than perhaps a typical 22 year old.
    Similarly, the plain fact is that young people don’t vote (very much). JFK, and his successors who brought in the Civil Rights Act and various other measures, werent’ elected by the Boomers, the oldest of who was 14 at the start. Even move ahead to, say, ’68 and they were just graduating from college. While student protesters draw a lot of attention, most people that age simply don’t vote.
    Similarly in Canada, Pierre Trudeau didn’t become Prime Minister until ’68. It took until 1984 when the last of the Boomers reached voting and more conserative Gen-Xers (those that were totally disillusioned and slacking off) to get rid of him, only to have his son Justin take over dad’s job in 2015.

11. You can’t even get the fucking dates right in the photo captions. Boomers from 1946-74? Try 1946-64. For the millionth time we did not inherit a “booming economy.” There were severe recessions in 1974-75 and 1981-83. Until the meltdown of 2008 that brought us the magic man President the recession of the early 80’s was known as the “great recession.” Blue collar boomers were totally screwed. The booming American economy was from 1946-73 and the biggest beneficiary of that was the so called “Silent Generation” that came before us. It was also them that started all the feminist SJW PC crap that is strangling us all today. The Reagan era was known as the “bi coastal economy”. The industrial and farm heartlands have never recovered from the “stagflation” of the 70’s and early 80’s and is the biggest reason Trump won via the electoral college in 2016. PA, OH, MI, WI that’s what I’m talking about dammit! In the good old USA we have been slowly morphing into a Mexico or Brazil when it comes to economics and politics and I for one didn’t sign up for it. I would like to give some props to the poster Capndiesalot. It’s true that my half of the boomer generation had more liberal dickheads than his did. Absolutely true. Different musical and cultural tastes also. However many of the first wave boomers left liberalism in time to vote for Reagan in 1980. Also his half of the generation had decidedly lower test scores than ours did, but that’s another story. Our generation was the beginning of the end of real standards in American education. The story of the decline of our once great country is a lot more complicated than the boomers did it, the Jews did it, the pick your favorite enemy did it. If you want to hate go for it, but don’t use history, statistics, demographics, politics, etc when they don’t back you up. Just say you hate this or that because it makes you feel better.

12. I would define generations by economic opportunity. Born in 1976, I feel like a sliver of lettuce in the sandwich of generations. I was born too late for the steady-job-with-a-pension (although my current job has been steady). I was born too late to be a part of the crowd who built the foundation of internet businesses. I was born too early for the social media/app/hookup business class. I graduated college during the dot-com bust. September 11th attacks happened two years into my career. The financial collapse on 2008 happened when I should have been turning the corner and escalating my career. But at the same time, I’m likely among the last people who attended college without crushing debt. My university’s tuition has nearly quadrupled since I graduated in 1999. We are also likely the last people who have been able to launch without constant parental help.
    I’m fine with starting millennials around 1986 or so. These are the people who grew up with a Friends/Sex And The City view of the world. I think they have greater economic opportunity, but also a much steeper incline to reach it. Boomers are Generation X had more of a high tide lifting all boats. Millennials and beyond are high surf and drained pools.

13. gen x saw the space shuttle explode at assembly.

    1. U
       TRUE. I was in 6th grade, 12 years old, Catholic school when it happened. I can remember seeing it on the television.

14. Watched on a TV that prob weighed danm near as much as the exploding shuttle itself lol!

15. I’m born in 1971 and I do not identify myself as a Boomer, but as a Gen X.
    I guess it is because I grew up in a conservative family. Neither my younger sister or I have ever seen our parents drunk, or arguing, and we did not have to live through a divorce of bad couple relation from our parents.
    I guess the family environment we grew up in might be a game changer of some sort.

16. Here’s a NEW chart defining the generations…
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/generations.png
    You’re welcome!

17. I was born in 83, but my parents were so strict, I wasnt allowed to listen to secular radio or watch cable. The Simpsons was off limits as well as rated R movies. So I know absolutely nothing about grunge, old school rap, or any 90s culture. It seems lame anyways.
    Twenty years later, I still dont watch tv or listen to poular music, but I have a great career, Im bilingual, and play 4 instruments. All That doesnt guarantee you pussy, but its a gratifying way to spend time and reinforce the importance of self based confidence.

18. People born between 1964 and 1974 are Boomers? In what universe? One where the Vietnam War stretched another ten years? Where Reagan was never elected? Where AIDS never existed?
    Go back to writing about Game, because when it comes to history, you don’t know a thing.

19. IIRC, there is a second grouping of generations that covers the areas where the main generation groups draw their lines. Someone born in 1964 is going to identify more with someone born in 1965 than 1945, even though the latter is officially part of their generation.

20. I was born in 1973 and there is NO FUCKING WAY I AM A BABY BOOMER.
    I AM GEN X and ETHAN HAWKE WAS MY IDOLNOT.
    GO FUCK YOURSELF.
    YES, YOU’VE TOUCHED A NERVE.

21. I saw a lecture where a historian presented what he called the “mini-generation theory” in that there was so much societal and technological change during the 90’s and 2000’s that those born from about 1975 to 1983-4 are a sub-generation. There is such a hard difference between those who grew up knowing that phones used to have cords and the internet was a new thing to those who came of age thinking cell phones were the norm then spent their formidable years with smart phones (essentially a computer in your pocket with constant access to the internet). Most of the technological revolution occurred within about 5-7 years in the early 2000’s. It was pretty amazing how it changed how just about everything in society worked. In 2002 when I started a job we had dedicated admin support, email was a 9-5 M/F thing, and most of our records were kept by actual full time filing clerks. By 2010 there were no more file clerks, the company was scanning in every file, admin support was gone (we were told no need for them since we could manage our own affairs from the cloud), I had a company issued smart phone and was expected to check emails nights/weekends. The flip in such a short time is unprecedented and probably hasn’t occurred since the 1920’s.
    Those who came of age too in the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s also were raised in a time of unprecedented financial wealth overall. I remember prior to 2008 the vacations that were expected, the extravagant company events, bonuses that were 20-30% of my base salary, annual raises of 10-15% that were routine. If I were born a little bit of a decade less then I was I would have never known any of these things.
    But, yeah, his theory really did resonate with me in that we might might need to literally redefine what a generation means given the technical and societal advancements that seem to be increasing in pace every year.

22. Nobody was whining about Millennials in 1996. In 1996, myself and other Xers were being called stupid, burnouts, etc. Strauss and Howe pegged Millennials (incorrectly) as a heroic generation in Millennials Rising (1999).

    1. THEY RISE
       GEN X vs GEN Y
       Again, watch the original KARATE KID or FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH. Things were rougher for Gen X. Bullies ran schools, pot and pills and other drugs were everywhere, the Disco era was not yet gone.
       GEN X was born to Boomers post-Watergate who were coming out of Vietnam or where hippies or radical Leftists. The seventies was an awful time.
       GEN Y was born in the 80’s or 90’s to Yuppies who had waited until 38 in 1985 to have one single child. They were spoiled, raised in the 80’s and 90’s at the height of prosperity.
       GEN X came of age in the post Cold War 1990’s. This was a cynical era of distrust towards the government, skepticism and so on.
       Then, when were in OUR twenties 9-11 happened. Suddenly skepticism and a lack of nationalistic fervor were bad qualities and being a cynical, decadent slacker was very passe.

23. I was born in 90′, let me tell you guys how much of a mind fuck it is, growing up I remember the land lines, public phones, beta max, vhs, all of it and the technological jump from analog to now is ridiculous even by my ‘youthful’ standards. It’s fair to say my generation (the millenials) are even more divisive than you guys, people like Paul Joseph Watson conservatives, OEF/OIF war vets and even MGTOW guys on the right, and the mega liberal academics from when ‘everyone needs a degree’ was starting to get rammed down our throats. It’s futile thinking of which generation should the blame on who screwed society, what’s needed is we realizing it’s fubar, and addressing it as such.

24. Easy way for me to remember:
    retirement age and above = boomer
    mid thirties to late forties = Gen X
    late teens to early thirties = Gen Y

25. Born in 1971 here, and if you think you’re going to tar me with the Baby Boomer label you can fuck right off.

26. It is extremely important to self-improve and train promising individuals in your enviroment. I have a brother from 2004 and prepare myself to teach him things I had to learn a long and hard way. Local playgrounds (where our fathers were raising each other) are becoming increasingly empty so not much hope for those places.
    As an early millenial (?) from Eastern Europe I find interesting differences between various countries. For example, I see more young people eager to embrace right-wing ideas in former Eastern Bloc. Moreover, I remember huge interest in libertarianism among teenagers in the early 2000’s, also there is a substantial portion of 20-30’s men in traditionalist religious movements (can see it during the Latin Mass). Worse, that the western lefitism is slowly creeping through our academia and is generously funded by western foundations. At least the soviet-backed communists were socially conservative.
    Vast difference when it comes to older generations especially in places demolished by WW II and rebuilt later by socialism. Rural conservatism mixed with yearning for social stability. After westernisation, there is also a portion of people ready to sell themselves out to the EU or USA for a golden cage, mostly from the biggest cities.
    Funny how different social dynamics and history affect the development and consecutive generations.

    1. Interesting. What country do you live in?

27. “Baby Boomers didn’t pass make those laws that damaged America so much. ”
    Exactly so. It is no the Boomers who screwed up America it was the “Not So-Greatest” Generation that got rid of freedom of association, integrated the schools, pushed Women’s lib, etc. They are the real culprit.
    I also agree with Capndiealot that the Boomers should be split in 1955-56. The first half did their duty, was raised in a pro-Christian do your duty environment. The second half were the hippies.

28. Strauss and Howe did a thorough breakdown of generational divides in “Generations”. Generations are about shared culture. If you are old enough remember Kennedy, you’re a boomer. People like me, born in ‘65 have no memory of the post war boom and we’re raised in a very different culture. Proudly 13th geneneraton here.

29. I have to put my two cents in. I was born in 1969 and I felt very close to my three aunts who were only three years earlier ( the youngest aunt was born only five months before me). My mother’s family was huge with 10 brothers and sisters and my father have three. That mean I was surrounded by a lot of love. Even as I grow up in the 70’s I can tell that there’s a big difference between my uncles and aunts depending on their age. The older Boomers were more traditional (including my parents who were the oldest in their families) than their younger siblings who were much more outgoing and playful. Think of the Beatles as opposed to Prince with some crossover like the Bee Gees. The kids my age in the 70’s were very patriotic and into pop culture and PCs. Think of Brandy Bunch, Star Wars, Bad News Bears, Top Gun, Raiders of the Lost Art, GI Joe, Rambo and the Breakfast Club. I love Reagan. Somebody (I forgot who) wrote back in the early 2000’s that the Boomers were really two generations and that the Xers should be divided into two: the PC Generation and the X Generation. PCers were forward looking, patriotic, and doers. The Xers whine about missing the 60’s. I can see the difference in the Catholic church I grew up in. As a boy, I went to the very traditional Catholic church that my great-grandfather helped to built and where my mother was married in. Then in the ’78, after moving to Richmond, VA, we went to a more hipper-looking Catholic church that used a lot of pop music and audio-visual aids in a flat one-story wooden building. The change couldn’t be more striking.
    The point is, it’s not really the matter of who’s parents are, it’s the culture touchstones we share. Kids who watched the Love Bug in 1974 are going to be different from the kids who watched the Matrix or Harry Potter. Attitudes count much more and they tends to reflect their families and their peers. Strauss and Howe mentioned above did a very good job in their books but they made a serious underestimation of how to divide the generations since 1960. It’s because the changes were faster and more dramatic especially as the hostile elites gained their domination in the 90’s (as they turned 40 and the older Joes started to retire) and pushed through their damaging cultural and political changes to benefit themselves. Those changes mean the generations are going to be of the shorter time periods.

30. Here is the true timeline: http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/timelines/generations.html
    Silent = 1925-1942
    Boomer = 1943-1960
    X = 1961-1981
    Millenial = 1982-2004
    1956-1964 = Joneser (Boomer/X cuspers)
    1975-1989 (or 1975-1994) = Y (X/Millenials cuspers)
    1995-2012(?) = Z (Millenial/New Silent cuspers)

31. XENNIALS are the true lost generation.

32. born in 1981, nonstop struggle to not get written out of demographic history,.

33. I kind of felt that I had nothing in common with anyone born after 1995. When I was born, 1982, a year some believe millennials start at, overly-masculine male action heroes were still popular as the films they were in as well, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone being prime examples. Brett Easton Ellis, the author who wrote American Psycho, called those who were born after 1989 “Generation Wuss.” I think he knew the actual starting birth date for Millennials, the first were born in 1990 before the final dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the United States of America becoming the sole superpower on Earth with no competitors. Born into a winds of change with no apparent danger and peace and prosperity, young men growing up had no need to worry about any threats because there were no threats at the time. They would be more in touch with their feminine side than even anyone born in the 80s as the rise of action girls in film caused women to become less feminine and more empowered. If you were born in either the 70s or 80s, you would know that hard rock and heavy metal music was men’s music as soft rock and pop music was women’s music. Today though, hard rock/heavy metal is more the heterosexual, cisgender men’s and women’s music as soft rock/pop is now the music of the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bi and transgender women) community.

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