Societies That Don’t Have A Stable Middle Class Become Matriarchies

I wrote an article about enforced monogamy where I discussed how the responsibility of marriage, rather than just consistent access to sex, keeps men law abiding (if it was just about sex, broadly legalized prostitution would solve the low status male rage problem).

Karl Marx had a few opinions to the tune of marriage being one of the the shackles keeping proletarian men compliant under capitalism. Marx was a married man, by the way, so maybe that was a subliminal expression of his desire to escape the matrimonial ball and chain himself.

“Marriage is for cucks” — something Marx might say

Why would free-thinking iconoclasts reading ROK who just want to bang hot girls and who consume red pills like Ronald Reagan ate jelly beans care about whether or not other men successfully marry and settle down into the purgatorial drudgery that is middle class life? Besides, the middle class sucks: they’re boring consumerist unimaginative petit bourgeois sheep who clog up the freeways with their mini vans, bring their loud kids on airplanes, and blather on about sportsball and reality television.

If the middle class should disappear, it’d be the end of democracy

Consider countries without a large middle class. For one thing, they’re societies more prone to revolution. Did Tsarist Russia have a large middle class? Fuck no. Vietnam, China, and El Salvador, countries where communist revolution fomented, all had one thing in common: no significant middle class. Cuba was an exception and, while Marxists like Mao, Ho Chi Minh and Trotsky were considered middle class themselves, the nations they agitated in lacked a large middle class demographic.

The insipid, blue-pilled middle class keeps society safe and predictable. They provide the anodyne cultural security blanket that allows the standouts — the wealthy, the sexually successful, the rebels and the artists — to operate in contrast to mundanity. Moreover, they act as a buffer against the sanguineous hordes of  either anarchy or totalitarianism; the middle class will never revolt because they enjoy lives just comfortable enough to deter them from general strikes and mass civil disobedience.

Think about how wealthy people in developing nations live: fear of kidnappings, Marxist rebels in the jungle, and drug cartels intimidating provincial governments require the third world elite to maintain expensive private security forces. Watch half a season of “Narcos” or the movie “City of God” and you’ll get an idea, or visit any poor country and observe how many buildings have iron gates over the doors and bars on the windows. Sure, third-world plutocrats can afford to live in mansions with high walls guarded by attack dogs, but they’re essentially besieged by the indigent masses.

Not to belabor the point, but did Gaddafi foster a large, stable middle class in his country? Of course he didn’t, and he died with a bayonet shoved up his ass.

Not even Gaddafi’s all girl fantasy security squad could save him in the end

The Middle class is patriarchal

Here’s where Marxism and feminism play footsie with each other: the characteristics of the middle class are defined by patriarchy. I didn’t make this up—some PhD named Ruby K Payne articulated that idea in the 90’s. In her book “A Framework for Understanding Poverty,” Payne described the characteristics of social classes in America. Guess which social class was matriarchal> If you said “the lower class,” you’re right!

In the American socioeconomic strata, according to Payne, generational poverty follows a matriarchal structure, where the mothers, who aren’t always certain who the biological fathers of their children are, take on sole caretaker roles for their children. Impoverished women tend to have a rotation of non-committal relationships with men whom they select for being basically “bad boys” (lovers and fighters) and consider fungible within the family unit.

The classic middle class by contrast is patriarchal where the men act as consistent primary providers, with women as either homemakers or secondary income contributors. While divorce is common within the middle class, patrilineal connections remain intact, with subsequent new marriages for each party as post-divorce norms.

When I read comments by single guys lamenting the unfair dating market and promiscuous millennial female behavior, I infer that either the characteristics of generational poverty have encroached into the middle class social strata or they’re out trying to run game in front of the welfare office. Signs point to the former even though the sign in the photo points to the latter.

This way to sarge a few desperate single moms

The Last of the Classy Ladies

If the traditionally patriarchal middle class adopts matriarchal lower class traits then what eventually happens to the middle class? It disappears. What happens when the middle class disappears? Purple haired postmodernists begin tromping through the North American marshlands, coordinating guerrilla raids with their smartphones and setting up pronoun re-education camps. There’d be a rainbow flag with a hammer and sickle emblem on it flying over the White House eighteen months later.

So high five the next paunchy dead-eyed slob you see holding his wife’s purse at the mall and tell him: “Thank you for being the socioeconomic buffer between us and totalitarian communism. Well done.”

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118 thoughts on “Societies That Don’t Have A Stable Middle Class Become Matriarchies”

  1. Correct and the best example is from the Hellenic period
    ANCIENT GREECE WAS A MIDDLE CLASS CIVILIZATION

    Ancient Greece Was A Middle Class Civilization


    Feminism is NOT a grass root women’s movement but a creation of the plutocrats designed to break up the family and in the process destroy the middle class.

      1. Ordinary Jews have been involved in a lot of dodgy schemes and plots but the real plutocrats are always an alloy of old European aristocratic families and old school Jewish money changers.
        The Jewish problem is real and yet not the core problem.

        1. 100% spot on. I’ve known this for years. But what I came to realize at one point that MOST people just will not accept or believe, is that it extends over to the spiritual/demonic side as well. The demonic side DOES have limited access/influence on the physical side. It is Catholic revelation that satan said in the last days he was going to attack the family. When one examines all the “chess moves” made to destroy family and marriage, it goes all the way back to “women’s suffrage” or even maybe before that. When one examines these “chess moves”, it expands beyond the human life span, which means the jews/aristocracy that have sought to attack family and marriage have come & gone on this earth, but the goal remains the same. At the end of the day, it’s obvious this attack on mankind has it’s true origins from the demonic side. Then once the evidence points to this, it then starts reaffirming the existence of a God, the God of bible in particular.

    1. If the middle is a buffer between extremes which keeps societies together. Why would the ((plutocrats)) want do destroy millions of cheerleaders for the status quo?

      1. Because they believe in Man=God in a world of technological utopia and the family is not needed in their future world.

      2. because the real status quo is “progress” or “the great work” as it is sometimes known. None of the revolutions we know as revolutions has ever threatened the real monied elites. A few ancien regime fops and aristos don’t count

        1. ““tower of babel” we could just as easily call it.”
          yes, I suppose. In the sense of deification of man perhaps? Although, the link to (permanent) revolution as status quo is less clear

      3. You’ve just asked the million dollar question.
        Douglas Murray has asked nearly the same question many times in his search to discover just why Europe is suiciding. Why would seemingly intelligent people not look beyond the next 10 years to question – hey, what happens when the tipping point is reached and we’re in the minority? If we need more people to prop up the welfare state, why not encourage the most stable, law-abiding people on the planet (middle class whites) to simply have more children? His opinion, and I am inclined to agree, is that they don’t really know what the fuck they are doing.

        1. Well, that is part of it. However, the Europeans by and large suffer from an arrogant case of inferiority complex. They always talk about their nation state’s “glory days” like some aged out middle class father reminiscing about high school trophies.
          The reality is, their time is up, and usurping the US status quo must feel like excitement from time to time. Or just gossip in between bouts of cheap heritage alcohol. Ouzo for Greeks, wine for Italians or French, and “pints” for Brits. Just to name a few.
          At some point, if after we do get replaced and are still living to tell about it, our future “American descendants” of every race will be drinking whiskey, and talking about how awesome WW2 and the 1900s really wasn’t.

    2. The ancient Greeks kept tens of thousands of slaves. Middle class Greek men kept boys around to be used for sex. Wonderful culture, eh?

      1. Your fellow nigs in Africa have sex with children believing it will cure AIDS, and eat human organs and albinos believing it will give them magical powers and good luck. Wonderful culture, eh?

        1. Their festive celebration Hanukka is about the slaughter of their greek enemy and a great deception of the gentiles.

    3. The middle class boomed by the 1990’s when McMansions were being built. By 2008, many of those homes built during the boom from 1996-2007 were foreclosed on as the middle class could not afford them. Today, Muslims, the upper middle class, Russians, Brazilians, and older, retired white babyboomers and the banks own those foreclosed homes.
      I don’t like it when people say that the middle class lived in luxury in the 1950’s…That is BS! In those days, people normally had ONE CAR, COOKED AT HOME, KIDS WORE HAND ME DOWNS, EVERYTHING WAS PAID FOR WITH CASH ON HAND and CREDIT/MORTGAGES WAS ONLY EXTENDED TO THOSE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE! Homes were a lot smaller and probably closer to 1,500 sq ft…A regular McMansion built in the late 1990’s and after is well over 3,500 sq ft.
      Yeah, you can say that younger generations are lazy, feminism killed the middle class, hidden hyperinflation, cost of living (food, housing, rent, utilities, auto insurance, car payment) increased killed the middle class…Those are all major factors, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! However, if people practiced half of what the WW1-silent generation did and saved their money, bought the smaller-medium sized homes available for the majority of the middle class from the 1950’s-early 1990’s, many problems would be solved, even as bad as it is today. Today, the ONLY HOMES I SEE BEING BUILT ARE MANSIONS! If you’re in residential construction, you will see that the future is only being built for the SUPER ELITE!
      Personally, the US middle class is so far gone for so long, foreign investors and the super rich will carve up and, I think, almost every building you see today will be bulldozed and built over a 15-20 period by these Arab, Russian, Brazilian, and Chinese real estate investors. So, tomorrow, go out and look at the nice mall you’ve been going to for the past 2 decades or more, look at the other vacant real estate around you, maybe even homes and apartments around you. These will be razed and all the new stuff won’t be built for you and I…It will be built for the Mega Rich (the guy pulling in 2, 3 million a year). A lot of that money will not be from being a neurosurgeon on call 6 days a week, 14 hour shifts, they will be Russian or South American drug dealers laundering money, foreigners (Arabs or Iranians) given massive unpaid grants by US Shadow Government.
      They (the Chinese, Brazilians, Russians, Arabs, Jews, Iranians) already own most of America…After they build their fortifications and playground for the super rich and globlalists that gave them the keys to the palace, they will dump so many more immigrants from Eritrea, Iraq, Somalia, Nigeria, Pakistan on the US, it will make 2018 look like a Sunday school picnic. I’m talking 500 million plus people. ITS GOING TO GET NASTY! PREPARE ACCORDINGLY!

    4. The middle class boomed by the 1990’s when McMansions were being built. By 2008, many of those homes built during the boom from 1996-2007 were foreclosed on as the middle class could not afford them. Today, Arabs, the upper middle class, Russians, Brazilians, Iranians and older, retired white babyboomers and the banks own those foreclosed homes.
      I don’t like it when people say that the middle class lived in luxury in the 1950’s…That is BS! In those days, people normally had ONE CAR, COOKED AT HOME, KIDS WORE HAND ME DOWNS, EVERYTHING WAS PAID FOR WITH CASH ON HAND and CREDIT/MORTGAGES WAS ONLY EXTENDED TO THOSE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE! Homes were a lot smaller and probably closer to 1,500 sq ft…A regular McMansion built in the late 1990’s and after is well over 3,500 sq ft.
      Yeah, you can say that younger generations are lazy, feminism killed the middle class, hidden hyperinflation, cost of living (food, housing, rent, utilities, auto insurance, car payment) increased killed the middle class…Those are all major factors, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! However, if people practiced half of what the WW1-silent generation did and saved their money, bought the smaller-medium sized homes available for the majority of the middle class from the 1950’s-early 1990’s, many problems would be solved, even as bad as it is today. Today, the ONLY HOMES I SEE BEING BUILT ARE MANSIONS! If you’re in residential construction, you will see that the future is only being built for the SUPER ELITE!
      Personally, the US middle class is so far gone for so long, foreign investors and the super rich will carve up and, I think, almost every building you see today will be bulldozed and built over a 15-20 period by these Arab, Russian, Brazilian, and Chinese real estate investors. So, tomorrow, go out and look at the nice mall you’ve been going to for the past 2 decades or more, look at the other vacant real estate around you, maybe even homes and apartments around you. These will be razed and all the new stuff won’t be built for you and I…It will be built for the Mega Rich (the guy pulling in 2, 3 million a year). A lot of that money will not be from being a neurosurgeon on call 6 days a week, 14 hour shifts, they will be Russian or South American drug dealers laundering money, foreigners (Arabs or Iranians) given massive unpaid grants by US Shadow Government.
      They (the Chinese, Brazilians, Russians, Arabs, Iranians) already own most of America…After they build their fortifications and playground for the super rich and globlalists that gave them the keys to the palace, they will dump so many more immigrants from Eritrea, Iraq, Somalia, Nigeria, Pakistan on the US, it will make 2018 look like a Sunday school picnic. I’m talking 500 million plus people. ITS GOING TO GET NASTY! PREPARE ACCORDINGLY!

  2. I was born in the 80’s but wish our society would go back to the culture of the 1950’s. That decade was great because:
    1. Divorces were rare,
    2. Feminism was essentially non-existent
    3. The job market was booming like crazy
    4. Women were classy, thin, feminine and graceful
    5. Radical new technologies were being created to create a better quality of life for everyone
    6. Families were happier; having the white picket fence, the green yard, and two chickens in every pot
    7. Religion was valued and people went to church – even wearing suits.
    8. Social justice and liberalism weren’t out-of-control
    9. Picnics and 4th of July block-parties brought households together
    I think a strong middle-class is a large part of what makes (made) America great. With this, you could make the argument that the 1950’s were one of the greatest decades in American history.

    1. 90% White. High trust society.
      Period. Full Stop.
      What happened in 1965 that changed everything?
      Hmm.

      1. Immigration Reform Act of 1965, designed to allow more non-whites into the country. Courtesy of Teddy Kennedy and (((Emmanuel Cellar))), among (((others))).

        1. Yep, that’s right. And, this was actually an act that began with reforms initiated by JFK. He was pro-immigration reform, and specifically wanted to change the floodgates of immigration to be less European and more Latin American.

    2. Only problem was, that economic boom was an anomaly.
      The world had only recently gotten through the Second World War. Much of the industrial First World nations’ manufacturing had literally been bombed and burned out of existence; there were countless displaced people who couldn’t even prove who they were because so many records had been destroyed.
      So as far as mass manufacturing was concerned, America was really the only game in town. Problem was, people back then acted like that would always be the case and never realized that this would end the moment those other nations got back on their feet.

      1. Granted the economic boom was temporary, but the point still stands that the culture back then was much more stable, pleasant, safe, and healthy. And it wasn’t just because of the economy. Watch a movie or TV show from 1990 or earlier and you’ll look through a window into a world where most people still didn’t even lock their front doors. On your next vacation visit a small town in the Midwest that is still 90+% white. With the exception of a few easily avoidable shitholes (NYC, Detroit, St. Louis, etc) the ENTIRE COUNTRY was that way.

        1. A good economy is vital for the kind of society for a number of reasons, including the fact that one parent can financially support a household and it offers legitimate ways to get ahead and advance- this also offers hope and opportunity.
          One reason you see so many slouches today is because the economy is so rotten in so many places they’ve just given up- the hope is gone. You don’t need much imagination to see where that leads everywhere else.

        1. I’m all for asserting your opinion that modern society should return to traditional relationships between men and wome. However, this idea that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the African Americans were treated in the past is just annoying. I’m not sure how you can deny that a lot of the issues African Americans have now don’t stem from this countries failure to rehabilitate slaves and their descendants once slavery ended. It’s as if some of you don’t understand cause and effect. I’m not saying that African American issues fall solely on white people, but you have to be looking through some pretty narrow lenses to look at the past and the limited opportunities African Americans have had and decide that it’s entirely their fault. That’s one of the issues I have with this site. Most of you seem to lack the ability to realize that not all issues are are us vs them issues. Most issues are complex. Black people have a victim hood complex that’s for sure. But the complex comes from something called learned helpnessess. Which basically is what happens when you try to succeed so many times that you just give up trying. Ugh, I probably wasting my breath, but you guys have got to get better at seeing the bigger picture and problem solving. But I guess the elites are counting on you not to.

      1. Oh shut up. They did too. Jesus. At least crack a history book before throwing shit like that around.

        1. They did, but there were numerous methods Southern whites used to keep them from voting. A lot of people make the incorrect assumption that they didn’t have the right to vote. They had it, but in the southern states where blacks were most concentrated, that right was infringed upon.
          And let’s not even get started on the lynching…church bombing…Terrorists with burning crosses…Yeah it’s not wrong to say times are a lot better for black people now than before. The family unit has suffered over time, but upwards mobility has increased incredibly.

      2. If a black person had a brain and could pass a basic test they could vote. There were quite a few that could and did. But of course the self chosen prefer to have as many ignoramises to manipulate. So now they have.

        1. This an interesting perspective that seems to assume that most black people had access to the same quality of education white people did. We know they didn’t, because they weren’t even allowed to attend the same schools. And that doesn’t even factor in the poll tax and the intimidation the faced for having the nerve to vote. Do you all just deny these things ever happened?

      3. @ Eric greene
        Blacks, women, homosexuals and juws should never have been given voting rights.

        1. especially since they believe straight white males
          should no longer have the right to vote, or to live.

    3. Yes the 50s were great, in fact they were so great that they gave us the 60s, the hippies, feminism, drugs and the sjws.

      1. Yes it is true that the seeds of the 60’s were sown in the 50’s. Of course now the weeds have grown uncontrollably.

      2. And straight off the cliff into stupidity and insanity..YAY!! Weren’t they great?
        Look where we are now…yay 60s through 20__’s
        Things are so awesome now!
        umm…not.

    4. In that time you didn’t have the opportunity to sleep around, like many in the Manopshere want.

      1. That was the great selling point of the sexual revolution. Free love every man hearing that had visions of just be able to have sex with any woman. Of course women don’t nor ever have believed in free love. They expect to be paid one way or another.

  3. You didn’t cover the angle on who is paying all this fucking welfare? MEN! and it is only getting worst no doubt Medicaid for all will be a fight in the future as well as free university education two programs that would mainly benefit women but both disproportionately paid by men.
    With more men dropping out of the workforce you see and hear articles bitching about these “lazy deadbeats” but nothing on worthless single mom’s and their little devil brats they force society to pay for. Even on ROK, I see the indignant attitude towards these men with Xbox this Xbox that put-downs like they should be CEOs or out here slaving away to support the matriarchy fuck that…

    1. “Medicaid for all”? Men consume health care too. “Free university education”? If this includes trade schools, again, men will benefit.

      1. @ trollstein.
        Correct. The 50’s are over-rated as being a time of utopian values. The corruption and rottenness existed then too, and has existed even much further back. The root goes back far and deep. Now we see the flower.

    2. “You didn’t cover the angle on who is paying all this fucking welfare? MEN!”
      White MEN, you mean.

      1. I’m brown af and most likely make more than you. Making the generalization that white men are the only ones that make money is stupid. I’m brown but my race is american and idgaf if american isnt a race.

  4. “Societies That Don’t Have A Stable Middle Class Become Matriarchies”
    No, they become chaotic murderous autocracies. NEXT!!

    1. Exactamundo. None of the goat-effer societies in the Middle East or tribal, primate societies in sub-Saharan Africa have a stable Middle Class, and the wimmenz there are treated like livestock. This article is 10 lbs of fertilizer in a 5 lb bag.

      1. Exactly. This article is nonsense and contrary to reality.
        The reality is that there has never been a matriarchal culture on this planet. Never has there been a society where women exercised political, social and economic power over men.
        There have been a few matrilineal societies, where descent was reckoned through the female line, and a few matrilocal societies where after marriage the male located to the female’s traditional household. But never has there been a matriarchal society.
        Why let someone with no historical or anthropological knowledge spew ignorance here?

        1. Wrong, Eric. Black African cultures are matriarchal. Black culture in western countries is totally matriarchal as the men impregnate women (of any race or size), then run off and rarely pay child support or are present in the kid’s childhood.
          You are in denial, kid.

        2. @ eric green.
          Juws follow the female lineage line. That should tell you something.

        3. My original title was something like “Societies without a strong middle class are unstable” The editor must have thiught it too bland. To be fair, I had a chance pre-publication to edit the title again but I didn’t .
          I use matriarchy as an example of the lower class norms in America — in my actual article, I never say that existing countries that lacked a middle class are all matriarchies.
          On to debate the Gadaffi comments . .

    2. This is a fair comment — it’s that matriarchal social mores (promiscuous single mother homes with no stable father figure) would pull the middle class furthe into poverty, thereby setting the stage for revolution in previously stable western capitalist democracies.
      Marx was all for the dissolution of the middle class family structure because it made the working class hesitant to revolt.
      Since the US is practically unconquerable militarily, its downfall would need to be orchestrated from within.
      I wonder if the vestiges of some old Soviet psyops move from the 60’s are recrudescing now because the boomers who bought into it back then raised their kids to believe it and now those kids have come of age.

      1. The bigger problem as you look at governments that became responsive and under the feminist influence and gynocentrism…but look at how the Feminists and their LGBTABCXYZPDQ allies act. They aim to be autocrats who rule by their feelings instead of logic and reasoning and fairness, are and want to be MORE violent in achieving their goals but more specifically to violently PUNISH people who oppose them or do not agree with them. They are vengeful petty tyrants in person and acts. They are pushing an agenda to make that come about, tyranny by the fringe. Eventually it will have to be met with violent force and crushed. there is no other path that can be for the betterment of mankind in dealing with them. mankind cannot survive that kind of aberrant modality and rule of whim because NOBODY can read minds and nobody knows what the tyrants feelz will be in the next minute over them. It will be terror reinforced by more manic terrorism by pathological haters and socialpaths.

        1. Roosh wrote a very informative article on how the feminists, faggots (((and he forgot the Joos))) would do anything to harm conservatives, but conservatives do not fight back. Roosh and Aaron Clarey recently penned articles on how Baby Boomer fathers who identify as Conservatives and Republicans are the worst hypocrites out there because many of their children are militant feminists and beta males.
          The feminists want us dead. The homos want us dead. They want us dead so that they can build their Jooish totalitarian utopia where everyone is a feminist or homo except the Jooish elite living in Manhattan, Toronto, Montreal, London UK, Paris and Madrid will rule over us.

        2. Well the Jewish elite are intelligent aren’t they X-tenccion?
          Do you see Jewish girls of 20 with kids out-of-wedlock?
          How many Jews are having children with black thugs?

      2. “its downfall would need to be orchestrated from within.”
        Do you mean the 9/11, Boston bombing etc. !?

      1. Too many people are too quick to praise russia as being patriarchal and traditional. Russia is neither patriarchal or traditional. It is an “ex”-communist shit-hole. And putin openly acknowledges his “past” history with the KGB (now FSB). One is never “out” of such kinds of organisations.

  5. “XBox” is an ROK metaphor for guys who choose to constantly stay at home instead of getting out there and living their lives.

    1. im about to quit the internet all together. and sell my hardware.

  6. Hellholes like Yemen, Iran, and almost any African nation don’t have stable middle classes and yet the women are basically livestock. This argument is shot down like a Syrian MiG.

    1. Herbie,
      Those are dirt-poor Third-World societies. This article is talking about First World nations, where women are pandered to politically, financially, and legally.

    2. Iranian Livestock that can’t get abortion on demand, endure laws enforcing morality, virginity is paramount as is child rearing. Oy gevalt.
      I once dated a Persian gal. I was amazed at the beauty of Iran. Skiing is world class, hone to the worlds largest soccer stadium, a Wrestling superpower, Polo, inventors of Chess, low crime, modern, clean and safe. And 250,000 Christians Abd 40,000 jews live there today. In peace.

      1. RW
        Wow. Didn’t realize the Revolutionary Guard has professional trolls like the Russian FSB does. Nice bit of propaganda there. Good English, too. Much of it is nonsense, of course. Who the hell plans a ski trip to Iran? And “modern, clean and safe.” FFS the reason the Shah was overthrown was because he wanted to modify Iran. The atavistic knuckleheads that make up most of that nations population gagged on that because they wanted to live in the 7th century! Hence the 1979 revolution. As for the Jewish and Christian (and Zoroastrian) populations, there’s a certain amount of tolerance, but they’re on thin ice. Bahai are viciously persecuted. No surprise about the giant soccer stadium, so what? Totalitarian states love big showcase projects. And abortion on demand, well, abortion is legal in Iran for “cases of maternal life, mental health, and/or health.” That’s a mighty big loophole.

      2. Wow. I didn’t realize the Revolutionary guard was getting into Internet trolling the way the Russian FSB is. How are things in Tabriz? Seriously, who the hell plans a ski trip to Iran? A giant soccer stadium? No surprise. Totalitarian states love grandiose projects. Wrestling, chess, blah blah blah. As for modern, the reason the Shah was overthrown was because he was trying to modernize Iran and this outraged rank and file Iranians, who fell for Khomeini’s siren song of returning Iran to the 7th century. The non-Shiite religious minorities, Christians, Jews, Sunni Muslims, Zoroastrians are legally tolerated but under surveillance and restrictions (and Bahai are viciously persecuted). As for “abortion on demand”, if a pregnant Iranian woman wants an abortion because her “mental health” (what a loophole!) is threatened by the pregnancy, she can get one. Oy gevalt, indeed.

      3. The Shah was deposed because he wanted to modernize Iran. The Iranians, with their backwards, atavistic outlook on life, were seduced by the Aystollahs’ promises of 7th century life. Who the hell plans a ski trip to Iran? Aspen it ain’t. And totalitarian states love big projects like stadiums. True, religious minorities are tolerated there (barely). But they’re kept under a tight leash and are subject to raids. You sound like a Revolutionary Guard. Your English is good though.

  7. You can always tell when a relevant topic or article is posted on ROK as all the nobody never posting before trolls suddenly explode out of the wood work to spam the comments with nonsense for the SJWs to claim all the ammo they need to build reasons to negatively attack, attack salient commenters who actually have logical and rational posts due to the content of their post, and of course to just ruthlessly troll for the sake of disruption purposes. The groups represented by those tactics are the rabid feminists, the pathetic white knights all peacocking and prancing about, and the rest of the usual SJW crowd doing their pathetic “resistance” postings. You can tell these posters pretty easily as they stick out more obviously than hard ons in the mens locker room attached to the soy boy open mouthed hipsters that obvious are there for the free show of other mens genitals. Anything they can do to try and shut down the most relevant and well spoken voices.

    1. And of course the ((tribe)) running cover ops to disrupt from people seeing their hand in the chaos.

    2. Ha – you of ALL fucking people should talk about being a Troll. Look at the BS you posted on that jet ski article – you were ranting like a little bitch

      1. Your mommy gave you too many Ho-Hos and now the sugar high is kicking in. Shame on your section 8 single mom catering to the brat. She just needed to get keep you occupied while Jameel came to visit and give her her special massage….That’s how snotty disrespectful obese cucks are made, dontcha know. She done a great job wit you that way. Quick go hide before the CPS arrive.

        1. “She done a great job wit you that way. ”
          .
          Ha! So did your mom – she did a great job with me after i put my tasty nutz in her face bragh

        2. Deplorable Neal Jansen – you’re a middle-aged sick fuck. But I’ll leave that right there
          .
          I wouldn’t want to keep you from your porn-and-fleshlight wack-off session in mommy’s basement. Lord knows you aren’t getting laid on a regular basis – even by fatties.

        3. @ Galapagos
          DNJ is 100% correct about you in this regard: “snotty and disrespectful”.
          Can be plainly seen by your posts on this site.

  8. The middle class has been steadily disappearing in modern America. Wealth inequality in NYC rivals that of Sub-Saharan Africa. Real wages haven’t risen since the 70s. The ((1%)) takes home virtually all of the nation’s income, off-shores American jobs, and leaves the rest of us with breadcrumbs. To even aspire to be middle class these days in the US is simply delusional. People don’t care about wealth gaps as long as they can sedate themselves with smartphones, fast food, reality TV, trash culture, etc. Citizens are so apathetic they’ve even stopped voting. Think about that.
    In a word, America’s fucked. There are still many places in Europe (and Asia if you’re adventurous) that have much greater income equality and significantly less degeneracy. Or you can stay and embrace the decline in all of its glory. One must decide what path they want to take.

      1. Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium just to name a few examples. You may be surprised to find out that wealthy successful people in those countries feel happy to be earning half a million a year as opposed to the 5 million or more that the same businesspeople would be demanding in America.

  9. “feminism is the spear head of communism”. quote from me a few years ago…
    communism means no middle class.
    its a pincer movement between the democrat billionaires and their useful idiot lower class <80IQ orcs

  10. Please don’t give Libya for example of an “undemocratic” or failed state, in fact Libya is so democratic that u can depose the ruler literally with sticks, how can u get more democratic and free than that huh? Unlike the west where no matter what u do u will be ruled for decades by the likes of merkel. The dystopia in the west is real, bring back the stick democracy!!!

    1. Only in cucked countries like Canada or UK will a man ever face his death by armed police because of a naked feminist.

  11. Micro matriarchies (single mother homes) create witless men. Sometimes though these kids escape and become great people, no thanks of course to their whore mothers. Gotta respect the self made man who survived that feminist hell and made something of themselves.

    1. @DNJ
      I’ve seen this within my family tree and agree 100%. LOL at the bitter beta half-wits who down-voted you…they are living on shaky ground and filled with self-doubt. You did them a service by holding up the mirror. Celebrate every down vote.

      1. Generally speaking it usually goes one of two ways, either they turn out wo become completely useless dependent snowflake trash(majority), or they overcome every single imposed shackle and handcuff and brainwashing effort and excel and rise above their peer group because they were always self driven to overcome because they always had to overcome huge obstacles to just get on par with their peers in academics maturity and socially. The are focused on success and are driven by results, the epitome of self made men (scant minority remaining of that group). You don’t really see success stories like that even from among the rest of more “normal” families. I’m not saying at all they are perfect people in character or morals, just they are internally driven to success no matter what they do (“good or bad” life paths).

  12. Gaddafi’s Libya was more egalitarian than any European country. I can speak on that for days, as I lived there for more than 10 years before the 2011 war. This article chooses bad examples, cannot prove that the absence of a stable middle class turns into matriarchy.

    1. Logic dictates this.
      Where would most single mothers be if they could not take a man to the cleaners (e.g. child support) or through welfare?
      Poverty.
      Decades ago we had the joke “the rich don’t pay taxes and the poor cannot, so it’s up to the middle class.” While in many cases rich people do, the fact remains that without the middle class the tax money needed to support women, especially feminist women, simply isn’t there.
      But the curious contradiction is that as the middle class fades, women have more and more power. This is because without the traditional means of support (marriage) women must turn to the government, voting in feminist candidates who will pander. In effect, a matriarchy.

    2. Damn shame Gaddafi was done away with in such a manner. He had made an effort to improve the lives of his people. Now everything he accomplished can probably never be returned to what it would have been or has been. He was imperfect for sure but it seemed Libya was a relatively stable place compared to the rest of Africa.

    3. Yeah it’s a shit article.
      What did you get up to in Libya? How was life over there in the Gaddafi era? I’m curious to hear the real deal, without all the (((bullshit))).

  13. But Sweden and Norway had stable middle classes when they turned totally feminist.
    In Russia, it was the absence of middle class in the 90s that led to rise of a more masculine communism.
    US saw biggest rise in middle class in the post-WWII yrs but it led to rise of boomers and Jewish-Feminist power.

    1. Feminism is born out of the middle class, poor wahmyn don’t care about rights and pink hair.

        1. Rockefeller wanted to get women into work as he realized that they were not taxing half of the population.

        2. So basically (((he))) tricked wahmyn into slaving to pay taxes, smooth move from (((him))).

    2. @andrea
      decent post, but no women or homosexuals are allowed or wanted here.

    3. When was that? Oh that’s right…Never. Once the Feminists took over and forced the fully gynocentric feminist model down the throats of normal people, the countries both plunged in to multicultural chaos, where they are right now. The men are opting for societal suicide rather than fight back, except for the mooslime rape gangs the feminists imported, of course.
      Yep, suicides are ugly, in particular those two national ones with Germany following suit, are pretty spectacular. the men should get out and let you femmes ride your crazy trains straight to hell.

      1. Id leave if it happens here in the US, and pay not one single dime in taxes anymore, and quit my jobs and fleece the welfare system like you khunts do. and in any other creative way I could dream up. I will stand back and watch it all burn the f** down. Karma, “ladies” she is the meanest undiscriminating bi**h, and you fully deserve her.

  14. No Roosh; they become ruled by Joos. It’s not a co-incidence that the modern American or Canadian woman would never complain to anyone, not even to their close friend that a millionaire Joo xaped them, or that the pet of the Joo, Tyrone, violently xaped them to settle a debt for their drug habit, but as soon as an autistic white boy even looks at a modern woman while she is naked at downtown Toronto or LA, she will rat out to the police.

    1. This is due to the Alpha status of the powerful, wealthy and influential Jew or the big-dicked confident Negro.
      Because Anglo women are gullible sluts they are impressed by Saul’s job in finance and Beamer or Tyrone’s underworldly street-saavy.
      Both are the actual movers and shakers in society.

    2. Once the artificial womb is perfected,
      they won’t even be needed anymore.
      Heck, they are already not needed.
      We have test tubes and incubators.
      We have baby formula with DHA
      We only need the womb to grow it

  15. Any society that believes in equality, extreme individualism and liberal democracy will eventually hand over too much power to women. The west’s concept of modernity is the cause of its troubles.

    1. I’m starting to wonder if extreme individualism
      may work if women no longer existed on Earth.

  16. Much as I hate to say this, but- the actual SOURCE of feminism is a certain (((tribe))).
    Gloria Steinman, Andrea Dworkin, Betty Friedan, Sarah Silverman, writers for shows like “All In The Family…” always the same kind of names.
    The media and people like Barbara Spectre, actually all but admit they push things like feminism, multiculturalism, etc., but look at how Israel itself behaves, especially recently with the declaration that they are a Zionist nation and even bilingual signs are being taken down. Go to a private (((Tribe))) school; think you’ll see any of this being preached, any demands to become secular, any books like “Heather Has Two Mommies?”
    No.
    That is because they know it destabilizes societies.
    Heck, how often do atheists bash that RELIGIOUS nation with their religious symbol on their flag?
    But as has happened so often in the past, it must backfire. This can only occur in societies that tolerate such (((Tribe))) antics; other nations that won’t (such as Asians) will become that much more intolerant as they see what happens to the tolerant ones. The fallen nations will become hostile, and without America to help Israel, for all the tough talk, falls the next day- and be assured, Asians won’t help nor can they be guilt-tripped.
    But it will be mostly the deli owners, the dentists, the veterinarians- they will suffer. The Zionist elites will get away with it. So those (((Tribe))) lowlifes betray their own who just want to be normal guys and make a living. How many of the actual backers, the higher-ups, behind things like the Bolshevik Revolution, actually died? Not many. But the same cannot be said for the peasants among them.
    Rinse and repeat.

  17. rocky’s ideas set up fembot income tax. The wimminz kids also got diverted into state funded daycare centers after spending all day in the brainwashing programs set up in schools “Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world.”
    ― Vladimir Lenin. Thanks Vlad, that was 4 or 5 generations of young impressionable minds ago

  18. Rockefeller was not of course Jewish, but the Zio freaks on here who wish they had a High IQ and low-time preference that enabled them to succeed to the extent of Jews or Asians will claim otherwise.

  19. “Not to belabor the point, but did Gaddafi foster a large, stable middle class in his country? Of course he didn’t, and he died with a bayonet shoved up his ass.”
    Strongly disagree with this statement. Libya was the one of the best run African countries with a significant and well educated middle class. Free education, free healthcare, substantial welfare payments for families, state pensions, and most importantly Gaddafi effectively distributed the oil wealth directly back to the Libyan people. Speak to any Libyan and they’ll tell you that he was a little crazy but overall he was a good guy. As usual the Americunts and they’re handlers in Tel Aviv had trouble expropriating Libya’s oil wealth for themselves so they had him killed.

    1. When Gaddafi was killed, the entire nations gold reserves were shipped out by US Military planes, within hours. The US and EU completely stole the nations entire banked wealth. Gaddafi was point blank murdered as part of the largest bank robbery in world history. Non-Rothschild owned national bank. End of story.

      1. Exactly. A total of US$200 Billion (conservative estimate) was stolen by the Americunts from the Libyan government in the aftermath of his death and that doesn’t include Corporate and real estate investments. That doesn’t even take into account the destruction of the entire country and its infrastructure.

    2. Where are you getting this? Libya was a psuedo-socialist dictatorship for most of the Gaddafi eta. Libya’s public sector employed 60% of its population but at a low wage and low standard of living. Gaddafi’s Third Univeral Theory (The Green Book) doctrine explicitly advocated seizure of privately held assets from the middle and upper classes.
      Toward the end (around 2009 or so) Gaddafi tried to pivot and create more of a middle class and open up to the West but by then it was too late.
      I admit that Gaddafi’s female bodyguards made using him as an example appealing for this article but I’m still not buying anyone’s story that Libya was a prospering Westernized nation with a large middle class that just happened to turn rabid on its leader.

      1. Reggie… a few points.
        1. Nobody is saying that Libya was a prosperous westernised nation. I am merely saying that Gadaffi’s mixture of socialism, pan-Arab nationalism and pan-African revolutionary ideology resulted in the best run, wealthiest, best educated country in Africa, despite the constant Americunt interference, economic and political sanctions that would have destroyed almost every other country in the world.
        2. Economic and political sanctions forced Gadaffi to employ 60% in the public sector. In the end, he tried to maintain the middle class by creating public sector jobs to help ease the pain of sanctions.
        3. “with a large middle class that just happened to turn rabid on its leader.” It wasn’t the large middle class that went rabid on it’s leader but Americunt backed mercenaries .

        1. Gadaffi, Saddam, JFK, the Tsar… Whenever these people try to make their nations sovereign or independent from the (((beast))) they always come undone in the most brutal fashion.

  20. To quote the Good Book:
    Isaiah 3:12 – As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
    Any society that allows women in leadership positions or positions of power is destined for failure.

  21. John Calhoun’s Mouse Utopia experiment and the report on it are right on the money as far as I am concerned and the very same process works with people as it does with rats and mice. There are variations in how it is applied to human populations but the end is pretty damned close to being the same. The death of a species or a race through restriction of access to territory , mates plus stress from crowding. The results? Low birth rates, abnormal behaviour and high crime rates. The result: Extinction or near extinction.
    Death Squared

    TL;DR – What Was the Mouse Utopia?

  22. Never been middle class so shit don’t really effect me. When you already at the bottom you used to degeneracy already.

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