Years from now, the “Unite the Right” event in Charlottesville, Virginia may be remembered—oh so ironically—as a digital rights Kristallnacht. And it may have turned Daily Stormer owner Andrew Anglin, of all people, into the 21st century’s greatest free expression martyr.
The motor vehicle death of Heather Heyer immediately became a culture war flashpoint, and The Daily Stormer (for those late to the party, it’s a satirical website that the mainstream media labels as “neo-Nazi,” “anti-semitic” and “white supremacist,” among other arbitrary, self-serving descriptors) became quite possibly the first 100 percent “legal” website kicked off the Internet for “muh feelings.” Shortly after an article calling Heyer a “fat slut” was posted on the Stormer, both GoDaddy and Google announced they would no longer host owner Andrew Anglin’s site. And that’s when things got very interesting.
When Anglin and pals tried to register a site on the .wang domain, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)—an international I.P. manager enacted by a memorandum of understanding with the U.S. Dept. of Commerce—quickly yanked The Daily Stormer off the Web again. The website went live shortly thereafter on the .ru domain, but was seemingly crippled by a DDoS attack when Cloudflare (whose owner called Anglin and associates “assholes” in a memo to his employees) abruptly suspended their paid services to the Stormer.
A stay at the .lol domain was similarly short-lived, with the Stormer getting booted off the platform in mere hours. With nowhere else to go, Anglin and crew were forced to host the website on the Dark Web, a decision which drew condemnation from The Tor Project, an organization that’s apparently peachy keen with its product being used for drug running, child porn, and literal slave trafficking, but absolutely aghast that some people might use it to say racial slurs and criticize the Jews.
Effectively, Anglin was banned from the Internet—that horrid goulash of pedophilia, scat videos and ISIS snuff films that it is—for somehow being too offensive. Considering his anti-diversity, anti-globalization rancor so utterly repugnant (read: oppositional to their own political ideals), the entire Silicon Valley empire organized a coordinated effort to bar a specific human being from expressing his opinions to the world at large.
Andrew Anglin – the first man in history to get banned from the Internet simply for saying unpopular things.
Thoughtcrime: From Fiction To Reality
While a few organizations (namely, the Electronic Frontier Foundation) have stood behind Anglin, both civil liberties watchdogs and the tech industry as a whole have said little about the chilling effects established by the Daily Stormer case (even though Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince himself touched upon the ominous precedent-setting, stating “I woke up in a bad mood and decided that someone shouldn’t be allowed on the Internet … No one should have that power” in the very same internal memo that excoriated Anglin’s “hate speech.”)
I reflect on the early 1990s, when the equation was flipped around. Then, the hardcore right-wing fundamentalists were hell-bent on silencing rap groups like 2 Live Crew (sample lyric: “because I’d stick my dick in and it would get stuck, the girls would say ‘stop!’ I’d say ‘I’m not!’”) and shutting down museums that showed the anal fisting “artwork” of Robert Mapplethorpe in the name of wholly subjective, intangible principles such as “decency” and “family values.” While the ACLU and other alleged First Amendment proponents were quick to rush to the defense of unpopular, controversy-courters who got federal endowments to drop crucifixes in buckets of piss, the supposedly freedom-loving left is nowhere to be seen when it comes to defending the free expression of today’s countercultural right.
Indeed, the ACLU recently came out and announced that they don’t believe the First Amendment applies to so-called “white supremacists seeking to incite or engage in violence” – an oddly-worded policy shift that not only rejects the First-Amendment reaffirming Supreme Court ruling in Brandenburg v. Ohio, but seems to advocate an ideology-driven smell test for the “merit” of one’s free expression.
Funny how the ACLU never released a statement disavowing the free expression rights of black supremacists seeking to incite and engage in violence after Ferguson was torched to the ground or after 17-year-old Brian Ogle was nearly beaten to death, nor did they release a statement disavowing the right to assembly of leftist factions seeking to incite and engage in violence after Antifa attacked Trump supporters in California, Missouri, Chicago and in more than 50 other cities in the U.S. since 2016, no?
The plight of The Daily Stormer is but one example of the ideological censorship writ large demonstrated by Silicon Valley’s tech titans. We see such in Google’s termination of James Damore, YouTube’s jihad against “hate speech” (complete with the deputization of user-generated Red Guards), the removal of Gab from Google Play and the increasingly despotic policies of Twitter and Facebook. And as the un-personing of Andrew Anglin indicates, the free expression-squelching power of these tech heavies continues to increase.
If a website that is 100 percent legal under the Constitution can be scrubbed from the Web altogether for ideological reasons, what’s stopping ISPs from blocking users from accessing the Internet at all—or real banks from stopping electronic payments—based simply on the fact they don’t like what somebody is saying online? Such examples sound preposterous now, but up until a few days ago, so did the idea of tech companies blocking an entire website from the Internet simply because they wanted to virtue signal.
Too bad the U.N. forgot to send the memo to Google and GoDaddy…
The New Free Speech War
If nothing else, The Daily Stormer brouhaha lets us know two things about contemporary society. Number one, the left is no longer the vanguard of free expression and, in fact, have become obsessed with eliminating any ideologies that run counter to their pro-diversity, pro-globalization, pro-multiculturalism religion. And secondly, modern free speech is no longer a story of the state against the citizen, but the technological infrastructure against the user. A recent statement from Richard Spencer printed in The Washington Post is well worth quoting in full:
Doofuses in the conservative movement say it’s only censorship if the government does it … YouTube and Twitter and Facebook have more power than the government. If you can’t host a website or tweet, then you effectively don’t have a right to free speech. Social networks need to be regulated in the way the broadcast networks are. I believe one has a right to a Google profile, a Twitter profile, an accurate search … We should start conceiving of these thing as utilities and not in terms of private companies.
It’s a strange predicament, to be sure, considering the United Nations has already declared several edicts (all unenforceable, naturally) that favor Anglin’s right to Internet usage as a god-given human right. From Frank LaRue’s 2011 UN Special Rapporteur report, presented before the UN Human Rights Council:
The special rapporteur considers cutting off users from Internet access, regardless of the justification provided, including on the grounds of violating intellectual property rights laws, to be disproportionate and thus a violation of article 19, paragraph 3 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
And if that doesn’t give Anglin enough support, try this 2016 non-binding resolution, in which the UN declares the intentional disruption of citizens’ internet access as a direct violation of article 19 of the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
The UN affirms the same rights people have offline must also be protected online, in particular freedom of expression, which is applicable regardless of frontiers and through any media of one’s choice.
Apparently, nobody sent Google, GoDaddy, Cloudflare or any of the other platforms that considered Andrew Anglin persona non grata a memo letting them know that, according to the United fuckin’ Nations, they were actually committing bona fide human rights violations by denying him services.
Coming soon to the U.S., courtesy of Facebook and Twitter?
An Ominous Future
You don’t need a crystal ball to see where such ideologically-driven tech principles will lead us. Indeed, the fate of Chinese citizens—whose online behavior is monitored, recorded and used as deal makers and deal breakers for loans under the Sesame Credit system—may one day be the norm in our neck of the woods as well. Think it’s crazy to believe that, one day, Facebook and Twitter could turn over our user data to banks and our allegiance or non-conformity to the populist tide could determine our fiscal well being? It’s already happening in Beijing, and what Constitutional safeguards are in place now that could prevent it from happening in Berkeley?
Andrew Anglin and The Daily Stormer are easy targets. Of course no one in the mainstream media or big business will rush to their defense. But what’s happening to them very well could be a fate that befalls each and every one of us. As painfully ironic as it may be, perhaps nothing sums up the inherent danger of Anglin’s de-personing more than a slight rephrasing of Martin Niemoller’s most famous poem.
First, they came for the neo-Nazis and I did not speak out, because I was not a neo-Nazi.
Then, they came for the alt-lite and I did not speak out, because I was not the alt-lite.
Then, they came for the moderate conservatives and I did not speak out, because I was not a moderate conservative.
And then they came for me, because there was no one left to speak for me.
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What a difference a year makes. Remember when the left would tell us that refusing to do business with someone due to deeply-held personal beliefs was evil and that the government should stop it? Now the same left is all about making use of such rights, for only themselves of course.
The funny part of all of this is that Silicon Valley will rue the day that it decided to become the content police. It will open up all sorts of legal headaches for them to the point where these companies will be begging to be regulated like utilities are.
As the saying goes: give them an inch, they’ll take a mile.
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The phrase I’m hearing is “The Culture Wars have come to Silicon Valley.”
Litigation combined with competition promises to change the game to some degree. There are currently several alternative social media and information sites in the works (Infogalactic for Wikipedia, DuckDuckGo for Google, Minds for Facebook, Vidme and others for YouTube, Gab for Twitter), and the ridiculousness of the “original” corporations is starting to drive traffic to these new sites. Furthermore, it looks like Facebook is about to have to report stagnation or loss of users in the same way Twitter has, and with all the debts and speculation involved in funding Facebook that does not bode well for them.
There are talks about making the Internet essentially a public utility, as well. It’s going to be an interesting time for the tech landscape for the next few years.
I anxiously await the “Google is Too Big to Fail” headlines. You know they’re coming.
It isn’t and it will fail. tech moves quick and it will become obsolete when they go from being a search engine to thought police enforcer. I know most are moving away from google services to others.
This sounds like a business opportunity here; there is definitely a market for alternative search engines/social media platforms and the right man with the right team could crush these fools.
Lightyears harder than you think. Alt.net must begin with alternative power stations, alternative data centers, alternative optic fibre cables under the ocean and alternative satellites. That is affordable for governments and tycoon kikes only.
What about nationalizing the industry and taking it over. If it’s a monopoly, it might as well a state monopoly accountable directly to voters. Or Anti trust laws should split it. Or the first amendment should apply to monopolies where its illegal for them to censor speech if there is an 18+ tag.
DOn’t stop at that. There will be competing networks of newer, better technology, centered around “tribes” of various commonalities. The first step is for these tribal networks to use the existing infrastructure and tunnel connections to each other. However, thriving tribes will build out their own mesh networks using a variety of inexpensive, off-the-shelf hardware solutions to link together tribal members, most likely built on the principles of Tesla’s electromagnetic theories, using the earth to conduct and transmit data between nodes in the network — a network which no one can control and everyone is free to tap into, nearly anywhere on planet earth.
For “real” news and information, I use http://www.4conservative.com
If the Daily Stormer really wanted to troll them, they would all claim to be gay and then say that they shut them down because of this. If you’re gonna get shut down, might as well make heads explode.
advertise for a gay nazi wedding cake?
That won’t work. Look at how they want to take down people like Milo.
Milo wasn’t sticking up for gay rights
Point. The left regards as the lowest of the low any homosexual, black, hispanic, woman or other non-straight white Christian male that disagrees with their worldview. The left sees them as property that left their plantation.
that’s true
former FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, said of the Communist goals:
Communists seek to advance the cause of communism by injecting themselves into racial situations and in exploiting them, (1) to intensify the frictions between Negroes and Whites to ‘prove’ that discrimination against the minorities is an inherent defect of the capitalistic system, (2) to foster domestic disunity by dividing Negroes and Whites into antagonistic, warring factions, (3) to undermine and destroy established authority, (4) to incite racial strife and riotous activity, and (6) to portray the Communist movement as the ‘champion’ of social protest and the only force capable of ameliorating the conditions of the Negro and the oppressed.”
Well look at black America 60 years after civil rights, the number of black men winding up in prison has QUADRUPLED, also as many as 65 to 80 percent of black children are born in single parent households.
The real reason Leftists use minorities such as blacks and hispanics is they are useful idiots and some muscle to carry out their evil agendas. They thrive on division, that is the reason why race relations have only gotten worse as the Left has gotten more brazen.
I use this quote against leftists and what I get on the return is that Edgar Hoover was a fascist and dressed in women’s clothes and possible was a fruit. So if one makes a statement of wisdom the other side attacks the character and morality of the one making the statement(even if the attack is unfounded in fact and slanderous). By undermining ones character the leftists can silence or discredit their opponents, a good example is Joseph Mccarthy(we should know now how McCarthy was in the vanguard against media communism);Same is happening with the statuephobia taking place across the country. Putting history on trial and then removing the publicly convicted images from sight and banishing them from history or rewriting their history, this is called deconstruction. The left or communists/globalists must deconstruct our foundations before they can reconstruct our future. He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.” George Orwell.
the left – the true left at least – is simply not interested in debating anything. They already know what they believe to be right, which is what they have been told is right by their thought leaders, and they know also that ends justify the means. Since the ends are already fixed any debate is neither here not there except in terms of a fight that must be won through fair means or foul. The ends justifies the means method favours the foul, hence their absolute readiness to make ad hominem attacks, typically without regard for whether such personal attacks are fair or unfair. For there is no truth outside of the reality to be built, and there is no justice outside the “social justice” that will define that reality. As you say all of this amounts to a destruction of the old with a view to building their grotty new world
So if what you say is true then debate is futile and conflict unavoidable. I do believe that making the American economy more prosperous is our best asset against the communist/socialist liberals. I personally don’t subscribe to cable or satellite(paying for them to propagandize) and I buy American all I can.
well debate is conflict. Indeed if it takes the form of a clash of agendas rather than what is traditionally understood as an argument then that is likely to be all it can be. Persuasion may take many forms though, and isn’t limited to the back and forth of proposition – counterproposition etc. My point though that was to the extent that the end is fixed, that a pre-determined result is being sought as is the case within an ends justifies the means mentality, then debate isn’t going to achieve anything. One can always try to persuade the other party that such an approach is corrupt.
Gay isn’t considered underprivileged anymore, look at Milo. Trans-Muslim would be it. That he identifies a Muslim woman rather than being Muslim woman. And say “White Sharia now” and defend Linda Sarsour …. that would mess with their heads. Their community is split between worshiping and demonizing Muslims, and they worship transgenders and people who identify as whatever they aren’t.
As the saying goes: the Left is only tolerant of Free Speech that THEY AGREE WITH. If you dare oppose them, watch out…
The Goyim know!!
“To find out who rules over you, see who you’re not allowed to criticise”
I thinke the Chosen are the very walking personification of History repeating itself
So no neutrality of the internet
“A right to a Google profile”?
No way. Sorry, but we can’t have spent the last two years making memes about being forced to bake gay wedding cakes, then turn around and say that Google / FB / etc should be forced to do business with us.
it’s settled law that you have to do business with perverts, waving your claims doesn’t do anything
How about this: when they”re willing to back off of their point, we can back off of this one.
That bakery did not have a monopoly on cakes. In today’s day and age, if you don’t have access to Google, Facebook, etc. your life is completely crippled in a multitude of ways.
“Muh private company” cucks need to learn that this is only the beginning, as such things always are with SJWs. And it’s going to much, much worse as the definition of “Nazi” expands to normal ppl.
I think I should remind ppl here that we are all readers of a so-called “misogynistic” website run by a “pro-rape” monster. You think we’re not on the SJW hitlist?
We all have to obey the rules. Because the rules always make sense (click twice to enlarge)…
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The father is projecting HARD. Actually quite accurate desciption of some people I’ve had the displeasure to know.
The Scott Adams paradox – no matter how absurd you try to make something sound, someone somewhere has probably done or said it.
Jason Alexander, while reading dialogue and scripts for George Constanza: This is ridiculous, no would ever do or say something like this.
Larry David: This is an exact word for word accounting of a scene from my life.
Speaking of Scott, this is the kind of girl he’s been able to get: https://twitter.com/kristina_basham
Unfortunately, I heard that she already has two daughters from some other guy.
Talk about a piece of ass. I’d be more worried about her photos than any children, though. As long as he doesn’t slave himself to her though, who cares. I seriously doubt any of our single members would kick her out of bed for eating crackers.
It does suck, but any guy having sex with any girl under age 18, no matter his age, is always a bad idea because the laws will always be murky or change like crazy for people under 18.
I know a guy who life is ruined due to this similar scenario. The father of the girl didn’t like the kid and he know the moment the guy turned 18 .. he pressed rape charges. the guy hasn’t been able to hold a normal job and has to do remote work in an rv at oil rigs..
Man, I miss the Stormer, it had so many news the MSM would not publish in a thousand years. Now it’s just amren.
In addition to the free-speech element of this trend, there is also another element that I haven’t heard of anyone mentioning.
Businesses are not allowed to discriminate against paying customers. Remember a while back when a Christian bakery was forced to serve faggots even though they found faggotry offensive? Why should Google, Facebook, and the rest ofsilicon valley be exempt from this law?
I think this needs to be pressed further in addition to the free-speech aspect.
It should be simple: either you are allowed to refuse service to anyone, or you’re not.
Frankly, I think any corporation with greater than 50% market share (or any conglomerate whose board of directors control the same share) should probably have further restrictions on who they can refuse service than smaller businesses, but it sounds logistically tricky.
This seems most reasonable. The libertarian in me believes that any independent company should have the right to discriminate, but when a company holds a monopoly over the market share, and there is no other alternative, the situation becomes sticky.
Yes and this is the case with cloudfare who holds ~85% market share
The proglodytes will argue, probably successfully with the still-Obamite-infested courts, that the cases you state were matters of “public accommodations” and that Google is not. It’s purest hypocrisy, but when has that ever held them back?
The difference is that google will win, and the bakery lose. But yeah both can do whatever they like with their business, but the bakers does not have a monopoly in cakes. When google refuse to do business with you they are also moving their influence of power to force other to also do not business with you, I did not see the baker going full homophobic campaign for other bakeries to refuse to bake for the sodomites. Remember google motto “Do no evil” HAHAHAHA,
I think we all know (((Who))) is behind this censorship, the quicker they show their colors, the better for the plebs to have the reaction they always have like what happened in over 100 countries,states and kingdoms spanning 2000 years. The relationship between the host goyim and foreign Chosenites is like the relationship between a Frog and the Scorpion.
Whenever I watch CNN and MSNBC( just to see how much they lie to people)..I swear if I was in America, resisting the urge to empty an M60 in one of these outlets would be next to impossible
We all know whose nose is showing up behind all of this.
Remember how Roosh V was called a rapist for this article and the mob that went after him demonizing him as though he was Linda Sarsour after this article on Return of Kings that he didn’t even write himself. http://www.returnofkings.com/72572/why-is-there-a-prolific-jewish-presence-in-the-american-feminist-movement – Also guess the ethnic origin of the new female Youtube CEO who invented ADL to censor Youtube, resulting in the James Dameon censorship and firing, same kind of defamation mob like Roosh V, Linda Sarsour (btw I despise Linda Sarsour, think she is wrong on most things but defend her right for free speech).
If Google were mine I’d want to turn away anyone I wanted. And yes, the law is being selectively applied. The same selective application of the Constitution can be seen in states that have legalized weed, even though its illegal federally, in violation of the supremacy clause of the constitution.
So, we go vote.
I got out of racial politics entirely after UTR went tits up. I hope Anglin can somehow get the Stormer back on the Internet, in the name of freedom of speech.
CloudFlare is a service to optimize performance and security for a website. It’s ridiculous that they get to take their customers off the web (RoK is a client). Being able to withhold their services is more arguably okay, but they should leave you functioning as you were before you purchased their services.
Rereading more carefully: “The website…was seemingly crippled by a DDoS attack when Cloudflare…abruptly suspended their paid services to the Stormer.” Some sources just claim CloudFlare took DailyStormer down, as I recall, hence my comment.
The U.S. is not the only nation to have domains I’m told. Maybe he should try some of the offshore places that are happy to rent you a domain with your brand on it, regardless of brand.
It does suck to be banned though. Just booted off with no explanation given nor forthcoming, for offenses you didn’t know you were giving, out of thin air. We should aspire to better or at least explain to those being banned, why, you know, they were banned. Hiding behind the shadows and pulling the levers silently like it was some kind of star chamber thing is not how men do things, it’s far too feminine and passive aggressive.
“not the only nation to have domains” – See third and fourth paragraphs. Apparently they’ve tried .wang, .ru, and .lol.
They need to try more. You can (or could, I don’t know if they’re all taken) get a .me domain for pennies on the dollar even if you wanted to host a site dedicated to targeted assassination techniques.
How about dailystormer.co.il? That’d be the irony of ironies.
You can get it if you want it to be banned one hour later. It’s a real war against traditional humanity, and you can’t win by playing (((their))) rules.
Europe is not an option. In the EU many of the websites you would think of would have been banned on account of “hate crimes” being committed. Many websites from the EU subscribe with providers on the U.S for this reason….
Hmm.
Its almost like you’re talking about some particular banning……
Actually it’s like I’m talking about a slew of bannings that recently happened. Lots of folks no longer can post here, banned for no known or identified reason.
Don’t be so naïve. He shouldn’t try more, it is obvious at this point that all TLD registrar companies have single command center. It will be no more than waste of time and money.
Even if he can register the domain name, here will come 2 additional barriers.
First, actual hosting. All datacenters in the world will refuse to host this content.
Second, DNS. 13 Root DNS servers, and thousands of large 2nd tier ones, can blacklist this domain name so it will stop propagating to small DNS servers and people.
This is all Greek to me, but it sounds like you know what you’re talking about.
Speaking of being booted with no explanation, has there been any info forthcoming on LoLknee/Hyp(I can’t remember)’s banning?
It’s interesting to note that every single site or podcast that gets banned appears to be talking about the JQ. Media outlets that don’t do that have not been affected. Just goes to show who are pulling the strings. Soundcloud banned a number of podcasts that didn’t allow themselves to be controlled opposition, but mentioned the JQ at least in passing. They’re so fine with the alt-lite and such, that’s the outlet we’re supposed to be following – yet it has no appeal to anyone with any insight, of course, since it’s merely a distraction.
Excellent article, btw.
andrewanglin offers updates by that handle on gab.ai.
His team is in the process of getting DS set up on the dark-web, considering how much trouble they’re having being hosted on any conventional domain service.
Regardless of his theatrics, I find it hard to deny that Anglin speaks some straight harsh truth. I personally think he is smarter than people give him credit for.
I listened to the man in this piece.
You’re right, he is a lot more profound than most people on the right or the alternative media.
He is not blocked without a reason.
He is blocked because he is more dangerous to the establishment/elites than most.
Even if it may be tough to admit it, RoK is definitely a lot less dangerous.
He is not dangerous (as far as I’ve seen). He is beinh used as an example of things to come…like deplatforming, demonetization and vanishing websites, accounts etc. En masse
I respectfully disagree.
This man has a very dangerous hack of making people turn to his ideas by making them simple and hammer them in. Very simplistic, even if he himself probably is a very intelligent man.
So he may reach out to the masses in a way never seen before. And even if RoK is doing a respectful attempt at establishing a healthy relationships between the sexes, this guy is taking on the whole chebang. And the elites are very scared of his vision and therefore his views.
One of his most important points is that we have an elite today that do not care one iota about the masses, but only wants to explore them. He wants an old traditionalist aristocracy that rules by high moral codes and a genuine love for their people. Thoughts that may be dynamite if the masses catches it.
One can only hope. Even libertarians have come to terms with the fact that demcracy is a sham see HHHoppe on democracy. As i said before I think he is being the test subject…
Will Anglin be a persona non grata on the web, or is it just DailyStormer gone. Stay tuned.
> persona non grata on the web
That’s already happened to Cantwell. He had his Facebook, Paypal and even his OKCupid and match.com seized after UTR.
Google, Fecesbook, Paypal, Twitter and any such system need to be declared public utilities effective immediately.
‘Globohomomulticultcorporatim’ is a good name for what is happening.
Socialism is never the answer. Ever.
Hopefully you never need a police officer or fire crew.
Which has nothing to do with socialism. That’s a funny trick Leftists do. Any example of government program becomes “examples of socialism”. Which is absurd. Socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production.
Try it on somebody who hasn’t had a poli-sci class next time. No more politics for you, now run along.
I’ll give him credit. Usually “muh roads” is the go-to for the “taxpayer funded means socialism” crowd.
Yeah. Free-market economy implies a limited state which supplies law enforcement and infrastructure. Why should we even have to stress that all the time? Straw man arguments from Third Way advocates.
The line between “socialism” and “taxpayer-funded programs that we have no choice but to support” is very thin, if not invisible. So I’ll use the word *socialist*, whether you like it or not.
Let’s list all the ways that socialist government programs have influenced modern life:
1) The military. 27% of federal taxpayer dollars supports our entire modern U.S. military. You served in the military, didn’t you GoJ? I bet they even paid for your college education, didn’t they? Or don’t you want to admit that here, since it would undercut your street cred. (strokes chin)
2) The weekend. It exists because of the New Deal. The people who worked to bring you the weekend (plus an end to child labor) were mostly socialists.
3) Highways, bridges, dams, hospitals, schools. Most (not all) of these things were built with taxpayer dollars. There are private versions of these as well, but the majority are socialist by design.
4) Corporate welfare. Wal-Mart exists BECAUSE its workers qualify for food stamps. The most profitable company in the world prefers to suck off the teat of the federal government.
I’ve said this before, but socialism is already here. You grew up in it. You drive on it, you swallow it, you literally served in its ranks. There are many competing influences in the U.S., and that is one of them. It has occasionally been the answer, whether you approve of it or not.
I got to the first sentence then stopped. You can’t use terms correctly and are proudly announcing you won’t, so further discussion is pointless.
Be on your way, no more politics.
Hope the day goes well.
False, but your political worldview seems to be always constructed on leftist talking points, not facts.
Shame that.
(facepalm) I *literally* just gave a list of facts.
Too bad you didn’t get to the part where I asked if your college education was paid for by military (a.k.a. public taxpayers’) dollars.
FWIW my college education was funded through private religious scholarships for academic achievement … if you’re keeping score on “who’s more free market”.
Your “facts” are subjective and open to redicule. Just saying.
#2: Markets did that, not socialism.
https://mises.org/library/markets-not-unions-gave-us-leisure
#3 The highway system was a national defense project. The economic benefits and getting to grandma’s house on the holidays was an afterthought.
#1 The warfare state is also a welfare and crony capitalist project.
#4 Yep, most corporations benefit from the welfare system.
When you are done hiding your face in your palms…
1. US federal budget provides a16% allocation to the US Military.
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This includes a variety of costs, but a third goes to payroll and maintenance, the rest to procurement of new equipment, pensions and medical costs (including civilian DoD employees), leases of federal miliary bases, etc…
Holy shit. Are those expenses the Obama legacy?
Luckily we changed our socialist president to one of the political right. We still have problems, but at least we no longer subsidize everything that moves.
Yup. And yet after record tax hauls, the US still borrows to fund their projects. Two-thirds of the US federal budget comprises a wealth transfer (SS, medicade, medicare…) and politically speaking is the third rail of politics– meaning no one will suggest reducing spending without losing their seat.
I wish I was optimistic as you, but things don’t change as eventually the left gets back in and continues bankrupting the nation and enslaving everyone to debt as they play Jesus with other peoples money.
You got Trump, I think that’s a hope.
Same shit happened here. Our “dear” president Fernando Lugo had delusions of kindness and began to use all the money of the public coffers to finance social programs and to partially establish certain services (and ironically those services got worse).
His stupidities did not work and we threw him out (impeachment). But at least our current president reversed some things and ignore the lefties.
We have a lot of work to do if we want to make things better. But I have all the hopes placed on my people.
I hope the US is lucky with Trump. The shit happens, but it’s a matter of always going forward.
Have hope. Better times come.
Paraguay.. ah. You guys have had a rough time from what I have read, but at least you didn’t go full “Hugo Chavas.” Social programs do not create, but hinder, wealth and jobs however they do invite opporturnities for graft and theft.
“Have hope. Better times come.”
I admire your faith and determination. Thank you and God bless.
That’s right, the lefties will need much more than everything that happened in my country to crush my spirit and my faith in God that things will go well.
God bless you and your family too.
Ah yes, the old Socialist False Dichotomy.
“You don’t want a monopoly of incompetent coercive force to do a thing? The. You must not what that thing done at all”.
Their whole ideology is based on contradiction and fallacies, why claiming intellectual superiority.
Just because someone doesn’t want a monopoly of parasitic incompetence to do something, doesn’t mean that we don’t want that thing done.
“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”– Frederic Bastiat
I have to differ here. Public utilities aren’t socialism, and privatization of public utilities (like in 1990s post-Soviet Russia) is a horrible idea. As we can see here. The biggest argument that leftists use to justify deplatforming is that Google, Twitter, etc. are “private companies who can refuse service to anyone”.
Imagine if in the 1950s Bell Telephone listened in on people and cut off service to those with unpopular opinions. They wouldn’t be able to make a freaking telephone call any more.
That’s the first thing I started to think of.. How did free-speech play out when new tele-communications technologies were developed?
How were newspapers, telephone services, advertising, etc., regulated since their entering the market?
There is obviously already a degree of regulation that exists no? I never ever see full-on pornographic images displayed on billboards in public for example. I see that Youtube (i.e., Google) requires a confirmation of age before seeing racy content. Aren’t there also regulations on food and that sort?
Public utilities? Like the California water utilities? The Detroit water utilities? Those kind?
I don’t see your point. I mean things like the interstate highway system.
One thing is that Bell Telephone didn’t have the power to cut off those who said “hateful” things.
But now they do… as well as collecting time- and location-stamped data about you.
The interstate highway system isn’t a series of roads built by the private sector that was then nationalized. Building roads, common defense, uniform trade rules, these are the legitimate uses of government.
If you think about it, the internet is simply a cyber road network.
Ridiculous censorship by internet behemoths is like prohibiting you from using the highway system.
yep, smart phones – dumb people
Globalism is never the answer. I could not care less if it is the capitalist or the socialist type.
The US is being sold to China these days.
China really do not need an army. They just buy you up. On money earned by dead cheap labour. Capitalism at its best?
Globalism is in fact an offshoot of socialism. Government-corporation “partnerships”, crony capitalism, etc. are all rife under socialism.
Marxism and communism has never ended. The soviets got what they wanted in a way
I see the validity of your point, but I disagree.
China may serve as an example. The way they control their society is all in accordance with the socialist doctrines. Communism is still their official ideology even if capitalist principles have been introduced.
The US of A is a lot more capitalistic, and still they are beating you all the way to the bank.
Both ideologies tends towards big sentral actors operating internationally, which in the end turn detrimental to every-day Joe.
But as to your initial comment to this particular thread, I agree. Socialism, in the traditional way of the word, is not an answer.
Marxism/Communism was never really even “Soviet” in the first place. It was always funded by the international banking elite, as was nothing other than a ploy to cede power to those countries they did not already control via the (((banks))).
…all a sick drive for equality which repeatedly fails and so is multiculturalism
It offends my limited government sensibilities, but give me a better solution. Google even censored the Gab app and demonetized Diamond and Silk’s Youtube videos.
There are softer versions of socialism that advocate a greater state intervention in the
market without having to return to all means of production in a collective ownership.
However, from my own experiences with a socialist president, I can say that despite being a “more moderate” model, it can have shitty results.
I believe all of those entities are operating exactly as planned. They’ve proven to be the best way to condition people to lose all value for their rights, so that they’ll gladly give them up.
B-b-but MUH FREE MARKETS! Nope. Time to regulate for the sake of free speech
Yeah, God forbid you have a right to your own property.
There are places outside the U.S. This dude tried a small handful of potential domains. And I’m betting he missed a few things on his end as well. Just a hunch.
Property ownership and getting raped by corporations aren’t the same thing.
You were raped? You should report it to the police.
It’s a good point. There has to be a nation willing to be something akin to the digital hosting version of Switzerland, Singapore, or the Cayman Islands — somewhere where clearly defined rules are in place and favoritism and regulation are kept to a necessary and disinterested minimum. I would suggest Taiwan, Japan, or S. Korea; places with highly educated, technologically advanced populations, low levels of SJW bullshit, free markets, open political systems, and whose now-increased value to the world at large would make the Chinese a tad bit less aggressive.
Well if you can’t trust the U.S. government to do it right and be impartial, who can you trust?
That’s sarcasm, right?
Absolutely.
Oh hell yes. Many Americans are not fans of big govt.
Oh hell yes. Many Americans are not fans of big govt.
He can get another domain. But for now, he is getting massive exposure from the body temp iq, fake news media. If theres one thing the media will never learn, its when to just ignore somebody. In a few weeks when stormer gets no attention, he will get another public domain and try to grab more attention.
Funny thing is, staying on the dark web would work well for him. The media says its forbidden and dirty, but easy to access. That same feeling that napster had in 1998.
If they can regulate it, it’s not free.
Guess that means the “free markets” meme is bullshit. Much like LOLbertarianism is bullshit
I’m just saying if they can regulate it, then they can regulate what is said on it.
Yeah, you’re right. Better to get assraped by corporations. Today they come for Daily Stormer. Tomorrow, they’ll come for ROK.
Why would that be any safer? You believe the cunts in Congress or the shitbag bureaucrats in DC won’t be the same dirty assholes as ones in China or at Google?
Absolutely. Just let Google shut down whoever they want on a whim. I’m sure Return of Kings is TOTALLY not in their sights.
That didn’t refute his position.
Can you read? Who’s to be the neutral arbiter in your magical fairyland of perfect regulation to prevent abuses?
The FCC.
There’s only two options here. Either deregulated or regulated. If you think your manosphere shit isn’t in their sights to be taken down, you’re fucking dreaming.
I’d rather trust some bureaucrats that are legally bound to not play favorites than fucking GOOGLE, who have tampons for men because they sometimes menstruate.
Now that’s funny. Apparently you don’t remember the Super Bowl “wardrobe malfunction” and the hysterical witch hunt for “indecency” that followed.
The five unelected commissioners of the FCC could even more dangerous to free expression than any corporation.
So what’s your solution?
Creating our own alternatives. Big daddy gov ain’t going to save you. They don’t even particularly care to try.
“Legally bound”? When has that ever worked out?
What alternatives are those? The alternatives that can’t even get domain names because they are being shut down off of the entire internet?
You gonna make your own internet?
We’re gonna have to try. What do you think the “Dark Web” is, anyway?
How would the FCC, or any other organ of government be better than ICANN?
We handed off ICANN, don’t you remember? Obama did that for this exact reason, to shut down free speech. ICANN was regulated, now it is not, and suddenly people are getting completely kicked off the internet.
And the Dark Web is slow as fuck and only pedophiles and drug dealers go on it. There is no way that the Dark Web is going to take off as it is not user friendly and it is slow.
Free market is better, real free market, Google is a monopoly that´s not a free a market per se, they move influence to destroy competition, using their propaganda machine and doing favors to the right people and bullying the small competition. In a real free market both players have the same opportunity to succeed, in a monopoly controlled market, the one who control it can influence other players into destroying their competition like stop supporting my competition or I´ll stop supporting you, then the little competition is choke by the monopoly, nothing free about that. Google can do whatever they want. New platforms will rise, remember when they said IBM was to big to fail? Remember when they said the British empire was to powerful to lose the colonies, you have the loser mentality, so because you are losing every time does not mean everyone will. Why the effort? you will die anyway, your hedonism is strong.
Oh boy, here we go with semantics. B-b-but it’s not a REAL free market!!!
LOLbertarians never learn.
Yeah, government bureaucrats lose all notions of self interest, pettiness and evil once they get a government job.
Legally bound, lol, that was funny.
“I’d rather trust some bureaucrats that are legally bound to not play favorites”
That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day.
When something isn’t what it’s identified as, then it’s correct to point it out. We haven’t had anything close to a free market as postulated by Mr. Smith since at least the mid 1800’s. We were decently still free market until the great depression but not quite there.
You like socialism. We get it. You’re here because of the Daily Cuckster (whose banning I do in fact disagree with, but I still loath the site). Of course you’d want nothing but (ha!) “national socialism”. You even trust government bureaucrats by default, by your own words.
You have little room to mock others, is my point.
Even funnier is that you dumbasses already forgot that Obama handed off ICANN. It was regulated before and it was just fine. Now it is deregulated and suddenly people are disappearing from the internet.
What happened with ICANN, smart guy?
Obama handed control of the domain agency to foreign governments. That’s what.
Ok. Suits me fine. I won’t shed a tear when you manly alpha males get taken down for hate speech or some other drummed up bullshit.
Just to foreign governments? You are being very naive. But, at least now it’s deregulated!
We live and die by your approval and support.
Handing it to foreign governments, and foreign corporations that are owned almost wholly by government parties, is hardly “deregulation”.
It’s like I’m debating somebody almost wholly unfamiliar with what a free market is. Perhaps I am.
And cluttering the thread to do so. So, well, on your way there Hans. Shoo.
Not by my approval. But by the approval of the same folks that took down Daily Stormer.
I’ve already mentioned that I disagree with that. So there we go.
I can’t wait for you to tell me how globalization isn’t the free market at all, but crony capitalism 😂
You’re being disingenuous. Which I guess is how you became a national socialist in the first place. Huge amounts of regulations and government written edicts proscribing trade and trade practices to the benefit of one megacorp over the other is not even vaguely free market. You know that of course, but don’t care to indulge in the nasty business of “truth”.
Your government bureaucrats, that you believe in and trust, are the ones who are making all of the real power plays here in this pretend “capitalism” you keep going on about.
Obama handed that over (ICANN). In fact Merkel was asking Cuckberg if he could police up negative posts about her policies on his platform.
Disagreeing with that doesn’t amount to shit when Return of Kings gets gassed by the financial powers that be. Just being a Trump supporter these days is enough to get your tagged with being a Nazi. But don’t worry, you guys will still have the Dark Web amirite?
This is about the same as “It wasn’t real Communism!” and then the commie will go on to list all the reasons why Communism has never been tried
Now you’re catching on. Twitter and Faceburg, along with Google and Cloudflare and many others and doing the same thing here.
You must be young. Some of us were tagged as “nazis” becuase we supported Reagan. Nothing new under the sun.
I’ve already corrected you on the mistake you’re making. I’m not going to waste good bandwidth doing it again.
Yep.
OK, yo for you is better to be a slave than to experience some freedom. I´ll take 90% of liberty than none. You talk like anarchist in some response then act full Marxist in others, We get you don´t like anything masculine and conservative. Flash news Karl, there no 100% all full socialism nor communism or capitalism, You take the better aspect of the principles of all the system to form a fusion of the good stuff that works, Wanting a limited government does not mean we want no government at all, wanting free market does not mean do whatever shit you like, you are misleading by the “Free” in the name, what it works is a no so regulated market, let´s call it that way, we want a “not heavily regulated market but little regulated but not so much” Market that´s better. Only a fool deals in absolutes.
Now you”re learning to walk. Come back when you hit puberity.
There’s a third one genius: build and support your own damned platforms.
Icann change was significant
Humanity will always be fucked because there is no perfect solution. I don’t think there is a sweet spot between the state and free market. People love power and will always find a way to dominate each other under ANY system.
Wake up and smell the slavery. Welcome to the world government. Freedom is Slavery. War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength. Resistance is futile; you will be diversified. Hail Satan our Lord and Savior! Hail the Global village!
Big Brother is watching you
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Actually the Phone company is a very good analogy. The company maintained the circuits, routing equipment and data speed and invests in expansion and research. However, it does not monitor content. If two people want to talk phone sex or plot an armed uprising, the phone company is completely uninterested in content as long as the bills are paid. Their job is to route the signals correctly. We are looking at the end result content, as though the phone conversations were persistent. Someone might say something vile, but it is literally “gone” in an instant. Despite this, this is why libel, slander and defamation laws apply to both technologies. If I spread a rumor I know to be false, whether by phone or by internet, I am equally guilty.
The internet companies are completely out of line monitoring content. it is like they are tapping phones on everyone and cutting the lines of those whom they disagree. Worse they are interfering in the contracts, livelyhood and banking of those persons.
Feminazis who say “kill all men” are not censored by goolag, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5B7bs8ubJw
It’s a sad day when I have to to defend the free speech of nazis. If you have Tor Browser, you can visit daily stormer here.
http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/
Please everyone read up on ham radio. The globalists and SJWs may be able to control most everything, but never the laws of physics.
Sometimes older technology is better.
Like solid state tech in the MiG 21’s.
CB. Breaker, breaker, good buddy.
The ARRL handbook is a good place to start.
You all speak as if it is surprising the left is acting this way…
I have it on good authority that old racist lolknee is behind the .lol domain. It’s all Nihilism for him.
I miss that guy a lot. Rok without him is half the fun
He was an entertaining & erudite guy, but somehow he never seemed to be able to stay on message
I don’t know what happened /why he was even banned. What do you mean with “stay on message”?
From what I recall, he had had a sort of feud with Matt Forney months before being banned…
He was a bit of a “rambler” when it came to political articles. I heard something about him saying some critical things about Forney. I didn’t see the the comments so I can’t really say whether it was justified
What happened to that dude?
he pops up in to A banned Castle made for Kings now and then
Dunno. He always rejected the idea that there any conspiracies in this world, so I think the only thing we can rule out is that there was any kind of conspiracy involved. Maybe he just left of his own accord
was DS genuine anyway? I’ve only checked it out a couple of times to see what the fuss was about. There is nothing serious about it. In fact they do a real good job of making ‘hate’ funny – unless you’re on the receiving end, which you will be eventually if you are not white with white supremacist views.
When a site goes out of its way to offend or outrage the question always arises is it genuine trolling or something else. I’m not sure, but either way how wise is it to start insulting a homicide victim before a flesh is even cold. I took a look at the site on its new .lol domain and it took about 2 minutes to find an article about a murder by a jewish guy with mental health problems who had butchered the female members of his family. They were literally celebrating the even, though it had occurred a week or so before.
The point is here, yes, they are coming from dissident websites, and that might well mean off message sites like ROK, protesting against marxism, feminism, & general fagginess, but while there certainly is a free speech / first amendment principle here don’t for a moment forget the dangers of associating yourself with a site that routinely jokes about murder in a way that will simply delight anyone who wants to portray the ‘right’ as extremist and neo-nazi
The DS needs to be cut loose while at the same time as condemning threat to the the principle of unrestricted free speech
Well sure… but the question remains: why is the Daily Stormer being treated WORSE than NAMBLA or other such purveyors of the worst perversions and filth known to man?
well obviously because NAMBLA doesn’t threaten anything sacred to the elite power structure. It just threatens children, who only matter to society
Humm I’m sure if a dared to research in depth, I’m sure I’m bound to find that (((they))) are behind NAMBLA.
“First, they came for the neo-Nazis and I did not speak out, because I was not a neo-Nazi….”
Stop there.
Once these Jews decided to come for these Neo-Nazis, it was over.
The Alt-Liters and Conservatives should thank whoever god they pray to that the Jews went after Anglin first.
The Stormer will not die.
They even purged Ambrose Kane as well.
It’s sad when words have more consequences than actions.
Whatever happened to optimism?
We are definitely going down the Minority Report type scenario.
Time for the antitrust commission to rip Google a new hole
I doubt it. The trillions being given around like tossed salads in prison amongst (((themselves))) says not even Trump can touch ’em.
Ironically, the rise of the Left is due to financial greed by the Old Rich White Dudes. Now the Young Poor White Dudes are their buffer against changing the status quo.
Antifa are footsoldiers of the very establishment they hate yet are too stupid/brainwashed to see it.
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Scarily prescient. It’s bread and circuses but taken to insane levels.
Banks already have started attacking. Coinbase closed my account and won’t let me access my bitcoin. The only time I’ve ever spent any was donating to the dailystormer and Chris Cantwell. Last monday is when they did it. I bought some years ago and its grown into a years worth of salary now. They won’t return my requests for contact, either.
I’m not an expert, but it sounds like you need to contact an attorney. A summons can often have a profound effect on a closed mind.
So much for all the libertarian propaganda over the last decade about bitcoin and other digital currencies as stateless money that liberates the individual.
I never trusted bitcoin in the first place.
With the Chinese having so many cryptocurrency miners, and being where much of the cryptocurrency mining devices are manufactured, I wonder just how long we can honestly call cryptocurrency stateless money.
The technology that gave us the current crypto boom was ostensibly designed to make more difficult the undesirable outcome of the mining to be monopolized by a few parties. Oops.
What an outrage. Even Roosh is cool with gay males posting on his site and I’m sure daily stormer was too https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea6e504ead1451b7d73d6c9cf35bbb0db3d0ac3e51d3013ff6308e073bfba90a.png
Раяндик – агент Порошенко и батальона ,,Азов”.
The first video is the best the other two are just chasers.
Watch em before they’re pulled…. like WTC7
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YhLSlVCJyyo&sns=fb
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NE7Pa4LD8a8&sns=fb
This needs more views. Relevant stuff right here, guys.
Well, I guess there’s always “Leaderless Resistance”.
Surely they can still host on .ru, Russia is outside the reach of Western tech co’s ? And DOS attacks are only tech issues.
“a decision which drew condemnation from The Tor Project”
Fucking lol
The optimist in me says Google is a year or two too late clamping down on free speech on the Web. The big boys are in desperation mode, and this is what they resort to in a new emerging age where no one trusts the mainstream media; words like Nazi, racist and sexist have lost their bite; details of global news that the media hides like terrorist attacks can be picked up in no time by the average Web user; the globalist powers have become transparent to most people that it’s impossible for there not to be a backlash; and ideas like nationalism, ethnic self-interest and conservative values no longer scare people like they once did.
Most people see this oppression for what it is. The media monopolies are three steps behind.
That happens when our cultural elites have succeeded in mainstreaming nihilism, despair, cynicism, irreverence, anomie and so forth: If nothing in life matters, then things like the Holocaust don’t matter.
They also purged Ambrose Kane
The more you try to clamp it down , the more people wake up ??
See US prohibition ?? The more they suppressed alcoholic drinks, the more alcoholics they created ??
More alcoholics during the prohibition, then before the prohibition ??
Seeing guys like GOJ talking “libertrarian” about how Angling must try alternatives rather than regulate the internet.
I am sorry guys but you are out of water here. When you get banned by ICANN there is no other “alternative” besides the darknet.
Your libertrarianism will not work here. Anglin can’t build his own internet. If you got banned by all private phone companies, then according to your libertrarian logic he should just wait for the free market to offer an alternative or just build his own phone company.
That already sounds crazy, much more talking about building your own alternative internet.
Drop libertrarian kookery in this case and just nake the internet a public utility protected by 1st amendment.
I’m all about Austrian economics and free market, but this is a special case you need to drop this lolbertrarianism right now.
ICANN is not even vaguely “libertarian” or free market.
Which is exactly my point.
To apply libertrarian principles in non-libertrarian situations is a bad idea.
Libertarianism only works when everyone plays by the same rules. It’s a glorified version of a gentleman’s agreement.
Our enemy neither plays by the same rules we do, nor are they gentlemen. Actually they aren’t men at all, but I digress.
It’s the big Libertarian donors who gave us gay marriage. Libertarians are a joke. What do they really stand for open borders, unregulated trade, the elimination of values, anything goes?
There was a YouTube channel called #FreeThought that vanished yesterday.
I think the powers that be will fail and with the rise of block chain tech ,we will create a new web
I’m not convinced this is true. I dont think they are the first website to be banned. Millions of websites have been taken down all over the world since internet started. It is not even clear WHO is taking DS down, nor is it clear HOW. All of this sounds like a lot of bullshit at this stage.
Tell us what other website has been shut down in the US the land of “free speech?” I think you are defending your fellow tribesmen in Silicon Valley.
it depends on how you define “banned”. No one has technically banned DS – its just that hosts refuse to host it. I dont know if this has a precedent, but I know that abroad, just like in American libraries, shit is censored all the time, and shit is taken down all the time. We dont have to talk DCMI at chilingeffects.org, some of which have been grossly abusive, nor the take down of Kim Dot Com, nor Piratebay, Kickasstorrents – although all of these were more drastic and innvolved law enforcement, something Anglin has not seen. We have seen a series of Jihadi websites taken down since 2010 by a variety of hosts, and I dont know what happened to their Domain Names, but the effect was largely the same.
If there were a mass effort to disrupt google revenue, they could be crippled. If there were millions of false clicks on google advertisements (and advertisers were aware of the phenomenon), advertisers would be reluctant to pay google for clicks that were potentially so corrupted. The more widespread the support became for such an effort, the harder it would be for google to isolate which clicks were legitimate.
#fakeclick.
The web shouldn’t be regulated. The broadcast airwaves are regulated as are the dinosaur newspapers by gatekeepers. Try getting a red pill editorial printed in the local newspaper. It’s impossible. The web is wild and free and best of all it’s fertile, like a young nubile sweet smelling virgin. A young pure unspoiled tart is like fertile soil that invites life. The wild web too begat a new life for the voice of man. The wild unregulated web is where we grew into prominence which would have been impossible with the regulated MSM. You don’t want to deal with government regulators. We can deal with sjw individuals and pressure google sjw administrators but government doesn’t listen to its constituents. Even fascade sjw government answers primarily to its controlling (bankrolling) gladhanders.
Even on the internet there are certain (((people))) you cannot criticize.
I miss the Stormer. You could read and post ideas that simply were not permitted anywhere else. They posed a threat to no one.
“Then, the hardcore right-wing fundamentalists were hell-bent on silencing rap groups like 2 Live Crew (sample lyric: “because I’d stick my dick in and it would get stuck, the girls would say ‘stop!’ I’d say ‘I’m not!’”) and shutting down museums that showed the anal fisting “artwork” of Robert Mapplethorpe in the name of wholly subjective, intangible principles such as “decency” and “family values.”
While I am a free speech absolutist, your account of the Mapplethorpe story is not quite correct. The “hardcore right-wing fundamentalists” were not trying to shut down Mapplethorpe’s work, but rather the federal funding through the National Endowment for the Arts that supported it. If anyone was trying to shut down literally free expression back then it was the crew of Chicago City Council members who “arrested” an unflattering painting of late Mayor Harold Washington called “Mirth & Girth”.
So calling a fat dead communist lady fat basically unpersonned someone. So if we all fat shame until it become common we lose less freedom of speech.
Doesn’t it all remind you when Roosh V was reported by ADL than defamed Linda Sarsour style as a “rapist” LOL and had antifa and others try to shut down a Return of Kings meet-up? http://www.returnofkings.com/72572/why-is-there-a-prolific-jewish-presence-in-the-american-feminist-movement Btw Alt Lite are just (((Their))) attempts to subvert any resistance to their (((feminist))) & progressive cousins by trying to divide and conquer the traditionalists. I still believe in their right to speak. Censoring people instead of challenging them intellectually makes them more committed to their beliefs – so I hope (((they))) come to their senses and leave people alone. If it was not for the censorship, there would not be this level of resistance to globalist elites & their rabid frothing at the mouth to try to impeach Trump. Again I have a lot of respect for Israelis as they believe in freedom and don’t censor people, unlike North American Soros fans.
Calling a fat dead communist lady fat basically unpersonned someone. So if we all fat shame until it become common we lose less freedom of speech.
Remember what happened to Roosh V after this article “Why is there are profilic presence of you know who in feminism” that he didn’t even write- there was a mob of SJWs and ANTIFA falsely accusing him of being a rapist and shutting down his speech as soon as he was on ADL’s list of baddies. ADL- the organization that called a cartoon frog that says “feels good man” a Nazi symbol and demands it censored. Not everyone values the first ammendment or the democracy and freedom on which the West is based, it its up to us who do to fight for the freedom the grandfathers of the white men here fought and died for. I think Charlottsville clearly exposed who controls what in the West, and that the straight white man is a demonized slave who controls nothing in his own country.
Also a lot of censorship and defamation happens around the Palestinian cause, same style as the SJWs do. They fired the Chief medical officer of a hospital in Canada because he wrote in social media personally, off work that he wants to boycott Israel, and some elites got triggered, did an SJW lynch mob to get him fired. I disagree with him on BDSs, but will fight for his right to say it.
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/palestinian-doctor-fired-for-speaking-freely-411820775.html They also have an insidious Canary Project, so if you say the wrong thing about Israel that’s not by their Party line on a campus as a student, suddenly they will try to make you never find a job in your field and starve to death like Brezhev’s USSR. https://canarymission.org/ Stalin’s gulags were too expensive, so in Brezhev’s Russia, you were simply banned for earning a living in your field if you went against the Party line – and if you were working at the bottom, you were simply taken to the insane asylum for forced rehabilitation. So when SJWs say you are crazy, doesn’t it ring a bell, isn’t that spooky?
I disagree with you, and I’ll die for your right to say it. – Voltaire
I never got the feeling that the Daily Stormer was satirical.
Horrible for free speech. Ominous for the future. Can’t say I’m crying about Anglin and his dumb website though.
“I never got the feeling that the Daily Stormer was satirical.”
Whew lad
The Daily Stormer was the source of numerous flagging campaigns that got YouTube channels and Facebook pages taken down: All because their readers were incapable of debate and dealing with opinions critical of white supremacists. So the Daily Stormer experienced the beautiful and fearful symmetry of KARMA – and the only ones crying crocodile tears are the so-called “supremacists”.
It’s about FREEDOM OF SPEECH, you dumb fuck!
Tell that to the idiots at Daily Stormer who organized flagging campaigns, you fukking retard. That’s the problem with you clowns: You break rules and bully every chance you get then cry like bitches when the tables are turned and try to hide behind the Constitution – bunch of lying cowards.
Un-private your Disqus history, then.
Clearly you thought it would be better to change the subject – to cut your losses.
So calling a fat dead communist lady fat basically unpersonned someone. So if we all fat shame until it become common we lose less freedom of speech.
Remember what happened to Roosh V after this article “Why is there are profilic presence of you know who in feminism” that he didn’t even write- there was a mob of SJWs and ANTIFA falsely accusing him of being a rapist and shutting down his speech as soon as he was on ADL’s list of baddies. ADL- the organization that called a cartoon frog that says “feels good man” a Nazi symbol and demands it censored. Not everyone values the first ammendment or the democracy and freedom on which the West is based, it its up to us who do to fight for the freedom the grandfathers of the white men here fought and died for. I think Charlottsville clearly exposed who controls what in the West, and that the straight white man is a demonized slave who controls nothing in his own country.
Also a lot of censorship and defamation happens around the Palestinian cause, same style as the SJWs do. They fired the Chief medical officer of a hospital in Canada because he wrote in social media personally, off work that he wants to boycott Israel, and some elites got triggered, did an SJW lynch mob to get him fired. I disagree with him on BDSs, but will fight for his right to say it.
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/palestinian-doctor-fired-for-speaking-freely-411820775.html They also have an insidious Canary Project, so if you say the wrong thing about Israel that’s not by their Party line on a campus as a student, suddenly they will try to make you never find a job in your field and starve to death like Brezhev’s USSR. https://canarymission.org/ Stalin’s gulags were too expensive, so in Brezhev’s Russia, you were simply banned for earning a living in your field if you went against the Party line – and if you were working at the bottom, you were simply taken to the insane asylum for forced rehabilitation. So when SJWs say you are crazy, doesn’t it ring a bell, isn’t that spooky?
I disagree with you, and I’ll die for your right to say it. – Voltaire
Child porn, sex slaves, and murder-for-hire? A-ok. Name the jew? We’re going to have to shut it down.
I MISS STORMER SO MUCH! It was a hysterical website. I don’t care if it was made by jews as a hoax to kvetch about, it was hilarious.
Daily Stormer does live.
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The shitlibs were never really for free speech at all, just for their freedom to “deconstruct” White civilization; when Whites stand up to defend it, they delight in silencing & destroying them.
There already is a movement to make the alt-tech a reality. I know most who have been censored are on gab.ai for now.
Till the thought police decide to take it out.