Although us Kings criticize the modern Western woman, we only do so because it is the modern Western man who is to blame for our broken state of gendered affairs. Men are naturally the stronger and superior sex, so it follows that women can only do what men grant them. I do not write to convince women to change their ways, but instead to educate the minds of men. The more I study Western culture, the more I realize how well-trained and obediently my fellow Western “males” (as undeserving of this title as they may be) give their power to the opposite sex.
When men relinquish their power over women, women will always take advantage of them. And after all, why shouldn’t they? Women merely take advantage of what is offered to them. If some man was sacrificing his life for your benefit, wouldn’t you accept his patronage?
Often times it is difficult for the average Western males understand how much of a weak, amorphous, and utterly subservient coward he is, but, thanks to the 2013 Askmen dating survey, denial is no longer an option for the Western beta. Since this survey mostly pertains to young men, and Askmen’s audience is millions strong, I find it to be a good indicator of what the future will bring.
Also, as a technical note, the survey only polled Anglo countries, but given the influence of Anglo countries I believe it is safe to assume all Western countries suffer from the same problems with their men.
The survey opens with questions about marriage. Nearly three-fourths of men believe in marriage and just as many believe there is little to no reason for a pre-nup.
In other words:
At first I thought that Q2 was worded poorly; there was no option that said, “I would accept marriage if it wasn’t rigged,” but when I read Q4 I realized if that option had existed few would have chosen it. I cannot understand anyone who would get married without a pre-nup, let alone get married, since you forfeit so many of your basic rights when you do so.
Indeed, most men do not know that pre-nups are still a bad deal, as judges will usually side with the female. If the man was rich and makes a poor woman sign the pre-nup, magically the judges will determine that the pre-nup was invalid. Even if she was cheating on you. (<—- You won’t believe this link until you click on it.)
If you have children, the wife also gets them unless you can prove she is a criminal or drug addict. If the husband is the breadwinner, the wife gets the children because the husband is not “the primary caretaker.” But if the husband is the stay-at-home dad, the judge will rule in favor of the woman because she has greater “capacity and disposition” to provide for her children.
Finally, I know some male feminist will read this article and think, “NO WAY! Primary caretakers always have the advantage in court. That one case you dug up is the exception.” A King’s response: “Wrong again, noob.” When a wife starts a divorce proceeding the police have strict orders to kick the husband out of the house, thus leaving the children in the hands of the mother. If the wife is the primary breadwinner, she will be able to shut off any cash to her estranged husband and prevent him from acquiring a good attorney. He will probably be unable to even afford a place to live. Then she will drag out the divorce proceedings for as long as possible, for as many years as she can, so when the judge finally rules on the case he will see that the children have been living with his mother for the past several years and thereby rule the mother as the primary caretaker.
Take a look at this man’s all too common story:
i just dont want to lose my son, and from what she said her attorney said that i will lose primary custody to her, and i cant let that happen. but right now the “status quo” is staying with her since she stole him from me, and by the time we get into the court he will have been with her for a long time.
The online attorney responds,
OK, that is not good. Is there a reason you haven’t yet hired a lawyer to file a motion for emergent custody, if it is still NEW that he is with her. What you are kind of saying now is that one upon a time, you were the primary, but now she is.
The reason he hasn’t hired a lawyer? Wow, isn’t it obvious?
i really wish you were my attorney. I unfortunately cant afford one at this time.
No matter what a man does in a Western marriage, he loses. And yet men are clamoring to get to the altar more than women are, despite how far the odds are stacked against them.
The western man never thinks with his self-interest first, even if women are doing so all the time.
So concerned with the welfare of his woman, the modern man forgets about his own. He is pure like a monk, except for the fact that he is dating a bunch of devils. “Lots of people talk and few of them know, soul of a woman was created below.”
The correct answer is “Very likely.” Why? Because if you are the kind of man who would cheat if he could get away with it, it means she’ll work harder to keep you happy and fend off possible competition. By being the kind of man who would cheat, you are less likely to be cheated on or dumped. But most guys cannot understand this because they are unable to think like a woman, and for that they must suffer.
Women must be reminded that they are replaceable and expendable in order to keep them on their best behavior. That said, make sure you never tell your woman that you cheated on her. That would be insensitive and cruel.
The way to keep a good relationship going is for the man to fool around when he gets the urge and to keep shtum afterward. Never admit and you will make the wife happy. Forget what she says. It’s what you say that counts. And say nothing.
If she asks if you’ve had other women, look into her eyes and say, “You don’t want to know,” and leave it at that. Even if you haven’t cheated on her. Because in truth, she doesn’t want to know. If you have cheated, it will hurt her, and if you haven’t, she’ll wonder if you’re still the same stud she originally fell for. Say nothing, and cheat when you need to.
The same principle applies to Q18:
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find out that the 17% of men who are willing to share pics get more sex and female attention than the 83% of men, combined, who would refuse to share pics.
Look at the wording of the question – it is not, “Would you share racy pics that you received over the internet,” nor is it “Would you share racy pics that you received with anonymous strangers,” but “friends.” Any man who places more worth on some random chick he dates over genuine friends is extremely likely to be one massively weak beta. The other possibility is that men who voted no simply do not have good friends they can trust, in which case they do not understand that if you cannot trust someone they are not your friend.
No surprise that Britain gets the lowest score on Q18.
Q8 is particularly pathetic; there really are no excuses for why 51% of men should date a fatass. Again, look at the wording of the question. It’s not “Would you dump a wife,” but “girlfriend.” The question presumes the man is not tied to her in any significant way.
Hello dumb fucking betas – what do you think will happen if you stay with her? Is she going to get skinnier? Will you need a Viagra prescription in the future? Nearly every major world religion frowns upon gluttony. There is no excuse for fatties, or fatty fuckers. I can forgive a man who bangs a fatty, but I cannot forgive a man who seriously dates one. If you know any such men, dear readers, then the Kings here ask you to disassociate yourself from them for the good of all mankind.
Part of the reason for the Western obesity epidemic is that most Western food is disgusting and unhealthy, but the other unmentioned side of the story is that nearly half of the male population is so hard up for sex and companionship that they will date fat chicks like Lindy West.
The fact is, Western men will take anything.
Only 15% of men believe a woman starts to lose her looks at 30. It’s one thing to be a desperate man who will wife up a single mom, but to sincerely doublethink yourself into believing women do not start losing her looks until 40, 50, 60, or “never” (!) takes some serious mental gymnastics I did not even know man was capable of.
If you’ve ever wondered why so few Western men swallow the red pill, just remember it’s because they are secretly fantasizing about their size 9 coworkers that they get to talk to for 20 minutes at lunch break.
Still, there may faint signs of hope:
At the very least, nearly half of men today understand that having the balls to approach a woman you are interested in is the correct move. This question is proof that game techniques have some sort of recognition amongst the general populace. Not only does approaching first retain your power of choice as the one who starts a relationship, but 90% of women love a man with balls. To a woman, a smooth approach is more exciting than buying a new pair of shoes.
However, when we tally up the other choices we see that the majority of men have no balls, with a shocking 41% asking for an introduction by a mutual friend. I cannot imagine a more emasculating life than having to rely on friends, or internet dating, in order to get laid. Shame on you, Australia.
Yet more evidence of how sad the western male is, here only 21% of men would not pre-stalk. Let me make something very clear here. “Pre-stalking” is for women. Until you’ve banged her, what the hell is the point of doing any online research at all?
Here the try-hard and supplicating nature of the Western man is revealed, because you know he’s pre-stalking so he can fantasize how she looks naked, or to see what her interests are so he can talk about them on dates, or because he doesn’t want to say anything to offend her. All of these reasons are pathetically beta.
An alpha male is completely the opposite when it comes to dating. First of all, most alpha males avoid dates because they are boring as fuck and generally have low returns on investment. Alpha males look for other more spontaneous ways to meet women, such as through dancing, insta-dating in the daytime, or pulling from a bar or club, but sometimes dating is the most viable option a man has (especially in certain foreign countries). Second, since we are talking about Western countries, let me tell you how attractive men view dates:
- They care very little about her background, including her job, education, or marital/relationship status. Anything that is listed on Facebook is the last thing on their minds.
- Does she have a fun, warm, and friendly personality (good character)?
- Can she dress well?
- Does she shit-test too much?
- Is she a feminist?
- Does she freak out when he touches her?
- How interested is she in his life?
They care far less about pleasing their date because they are more interested in pleasing themselves, a concept that is foreign to the beta. Whereas the beta pre-stalks, the alpha “verifies” a woman he has been banging for some time by checking up on Facebook or the internet to see if she is who she claims.
The only reason alphas date is to have fun and sex. After having his fun, the alpha will evaluate his woman’s potential for a relationship and take it from there. But if he’s just met her, why should he give her any more time than is necessary? She has no credibility or trust built with him, and until she does it’s guilty until proven innocent.
Continuing on with the concept of betas being nothing more than instruments for a woman’s pleasure, we can see how powerful this theme really is.
Behold, the modern western male:
You would think that, after all the hoops the modern man jumps through to get love and attention from women — studying hard in school and college, working out at the gym, gaining friends and social status, competing for a good job, and meeting god-knows-how-many demands women make — he would at least try to satisfy himself first in the one domain that men truly care about.
Instead, he treats himself like the human dildo pictured above. I suppose this outcome is natural given how the western male is usually raised.
Let me make myself clear. It is not bad to give a woman an orgasm. But it’s not important if you do. As the survey shows, most men believe that giving a girl an orgasm is important. They infer that if she comes, then she’ll like him more and he’ll get more sex in the long run. But this just isn’t true. The less a man cares, the more likely he’ll do all the right things in a relationship, from the bar to the bedroom. Use her, abuse her, and let her please you instead, and she’ll be far more likely to experience a powerful orgasm than if you directly try to please her. That’s because women are attracted to men, not little bitches. But you cannot fake this. You must truly not give a shit, and instead view women as objects of your pleasure.
And if you can do this, you will not find yourself in the top category for Q26:
Ultimately, when Western men lie about their sex partner count they are really lying to themselves about their satisfaction with the opposite sex. Unable to admit they have a problem, denial comes in many forms:
- “Not all women are like that.” (The dumbest counter-argument in the world is to refute a generalization with a specific counter-instance.)
- “I’m not tall enough.”
- “I’m not rich enough.”
- “I’m only looking for one special girl.”
- “Not everyone is as perverted as you are.” (So why do betas have porn collections that fill several hard drives?)
- “Some guys have it, and some guys don’t. I’m not one of those guys.”
- “You don’t know what you’re talking about. Your view of women is fucked up.”
Short of beating the shit out of beta males, I cannot think of a way to change who they are. They are weak, pathetic little suckers who exist only to serve others. And rather than face reality, they viciously attack anyone who would expose the lies they tell themselves. If you try to show them the error of their ways, they will hate you for it. So I don’t try to convince them otherwise.
Instead of helping betas now, I just use and abuse them like women do. Why respect a beta when he cannot respect himself? Our women act like cunts because our men have no backbone or self-respect. They refuse to stand for their own self-interest and so women act like tyrants because they can. This Askmen survey merely validates this fact. I treat betas like shit, and they aren’t even aware of it. I think they like it this way.
We were born into a very strange world.
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Maybe I’m missing something, but whether you maintain your liberty and rights is dependent on you rather than a pre-nup. Many men have skipped town/country when things started to look sour at home (Hong Kong or remote places started looking damn good at that point), better than having to go through the courts and other nonsense just so that you can “win”.
Maybe I’m missing something, but whether you maintain your liberty and rights is dependent on you rather than a pre-nup. Many men have skipped town/country when things started to look sour at home (Hong Kong or remote places started looking damn good at that point), better than having to go through the courts and other nonsense just so that you can “win”.
True, and also bear in mind that pre-nups get laughed out of court by the gavel wielding fascist pig …er… I mean the judge. In countries like Germany and Austria they tend to abide by them much better, but in the States the judge has final say on what to do, even though he has to respect a pre-nup, he will still do whatever the fuck he wants to.
You are right, in Germany pre-nups are generally court proof. That is due to the private autonomy of the individual. There are certain areas you can’t touch or where you have to tread very carefully, esp. everything concerning child support and support in case of age and illness. Otherwise practically everything is possible.
The EU, much like other places on the globe, is America’s bratty little brother; they hate us but want so much to be like us. If things continue in the States down this same road then we will see the German and Austrian courts follow suit with the make-it-up-as-we-go-along approach to family court justice. It’s quite scary when I speak to a Krout and it’s obvious what auto-fellating socialists they are.
You are right, there is definitely a love/hate relationship. Concerning the family courts i have to say that the anglo-saxon law system is quite different from the german system. German family law was in regard of who gets the child, much more mother centered, thanks to the nazi glorification of motherhood…That is one of the few things we can thank the EU for, that has changed for the better…Also the conception what is regarded as socialist and what not differs very much. While general healthcare is considered socialist in the US no one in Germany, from the extreme right to the extreme left, would consider it socialist.
Respectfully, as a European myself I have to disagree. Certainly not everyone has a secret fetish for America. I’d say that’s more a fantasy you guys have that you imagine the whole world wishes to be like you .. while at the same time *a lot* of American guys here are desperate to get the hell out of there. Ironic isn’t it 🙂
OK, I’m not trying to be snarky really. Just making the point that this idea a lot of Americans have that basically the world didn’t exist before they came along, is also probably the result of political brain washing. And no, I’m not defending rampant socialism either. It’s another myth that all Europeans are socialists or want socialist governments. Many of us are sick of those type of politics.
Bottom line: your shit stinks at least as much as ours, my American brothers..lol. That’s why we must unite ideologically as men worldwide to hopefully create a better world for our sons.
You’re kidding yourself, europeans don’t want to be like you, Sure, it’s a business-friendly country, low taxes are great, but many things there are just ridiculous, which makes most of us think of the USA as a not fully grown-up country. Great to visit, but not to live in 24/7.
I would say our American shit stinks worse then European shit, yet the Europeans cannot get enough of our shit. This is why your women have become shit. I actually put the blame on what has transpired in the States. Westernisation is synonomous with Americanisation.
But you have to admit that our popular culture via TV shows and movies etc flow quickly to european culture.
I wish Old Europe was Old again. I miss that diversity that Europe offered, not the socialist politics, but surely the cultural refinement. It’s still there but wil be homegenized now that europe is “The EU”.
Always an interesting dynamic to discuss…
Did women become they way they are? Or was it beta-men who MADE them become the way they are?
I can’t share red pill beliefs with my friends. I can’t understand how so many people don’t “get it”. I didn’t realize it actually offends people. The guy next to me at work is beta to the core… he’s 23 years old, hardcore christian who already had a wife who divorced him (probably for being too beta).
I try to bring up red-pill points with him but he STILL puts women on a pedestal and still believes they are innocent little creatures. It’s fucking hopeless.
I am upset to see the trends of the this generation based on these questions and answers. Between Corey Matthews, countless Disney movies, Bruno Mars “I shoulda bought you flowers” Pink, Beyonce, The media has done a phenomenal job of making the ‘beta’ selfless male a hero among men of the 21st century.
Beta dads raising beta sons. Emasculating (single) mothers who don’t know how to raise a man to be a man.
IMO it takes a lot of hate, frustration, anger and will for change before one turns to and adopts the manosphere. Therefore, I hope this generation of men gets crushed quickly and hopefully learns the err of their ways.
If you can’t talk about the red pill with certain friends, it’s time to lose those friends. Don’t hang around people who have completely internalized modern lies. The exception is men with redeeming qualities who you think could be salvaged.
I strongly second this. Rising above a servile state has to be self-initiated. It’s like a culture rising in revolution. It can’t come from without, because really the main obstacle to becoming alpha is being able to admit you’re beta.
Good point. What’s ironic and sad, though, is that being alpha, or working towards being alpha, is a very LONELY road. The overwhelming majority of the population are so deeply blue pill, that red pill people are a fucking endangered species. Seriously, I lost many, if not all, friends after ingesting the red pill.
This is one main reason why, aside from learning to improve myself, I come to sights like ROK and other manosphere sites so that I can communicate with my kind.
Not necessarily. I don’t believe that it’s either “red pill” or “blue pill”. There are varying degrees of both.
Go out and find some wings, PUA guys, or even entrepreneurs to hang out with (I’m part of various entrepreneur clubs. These groups surprisingly have the largest amount of red pill guys that I’ve ever met).
Truth.
its sort of like the chicken and the egg argument- pointless.
a lot of men think if we could only get men to sack up everything would change but it wouldnt. See Toronto for what happens when a ton of men get into game, it actually just makes everything even worse.
Actually Toronto is a dystopian example where women control everything and men have to waste inordinate amounts of time to get laid
99% of men who “got into game” are f*ng losers. Reading Mystery does not make you alpha.
It’s not about not getting laid, it’s about not getting laid with pretty and feminine women. And of the pool at your disposal.
Place with tons of pretty and feminine and skinny women > Place where you have to dig deep to find such.
Btw, Eastern Europe is extremely comfortable, it is only poor, which should not bother an American.
“Did women become the way they are? Or was it beta-men who MADE them become the way they are?”
Women have ALWAYS been the way that they are…..men have allowed them to destroy society by NOT holding them accountable for their actions. it really is that simple.
It’s not so much that women should be held accountable but the converse. That women shouldn’t be held accountable for anything however they should be given absolutely no responsibilities in the same way that you don’t hold your child responsible for burning down the house after handing them matches.
Yo Mike my dad is a spineless blue pill that has a terrible life. I’ve been a sigma male since I was 14 because I knew that his lessons were poison. Since then I’ve become an exceptional man despite being only 20. It pisses me off how he cannot put the pieces together. 95% of the population in any country, any galaxy, anywhere is hopelessly stupid. If you’re born stupid the damned thing is that you always will be. You cannot fix ignorance it must be destroyed from within.
Always an interesting dynamic to discuss…
Did women become they way they are? Or was it beta-men who MADE them become the way they are?
I can’t share red pill beliefs with my friends. I can’t understand how so many people don’t “get it”. I didn’t realize it actually offends people. The guy next to me at work is beta to the core… he’s 23 years old, hardcore christian who already had a wife who divorced him (probably for being too beta).
I try to bring up red-pill points with him but he STILL puts women on a pedestal and still believes they are innocent little creatures. It’s fucking hopeless.
I am upset to see the trends of the this generation based on these questions and answers. Between Corey Matthews, countless Disney movies, Bruno Mars “I shoulda bought you flowers” Pink, Beyonce, The media has done a phenomenal job of making the ‘beta’ selfless male a hero among men of the 21st century.
Beta dads raising beta sons. Emasculating (single) mothers who don’t know how to raise a man to be a man.
IMO it takes a lot of hate, frustration, anger and will for change before one turns to and adopts the manosphere. Therefore, I hope this generation of men gets crushed quickly and hopefully learns the err of their ways.
Too bitchy, too fat, too demanding, too boring, too self-absorbed, too materialistic, a bad lay? Dump her and move on. I make the choices about which women I want. They don’t choose me anymore.
That includes taking women off the pedestal and putting myself on it. Really, women are worthless to me except for occasional companionship and sexual gratification. I now find it hard to believe I held them in such high regard in the past. They really can be horrible little creatures. That said, I respect the hell out of the rare “good” woman immensely. They’re like beautiful flowers that grow out of a pot of dirt.
I find that following my natural instincts goes a long way. Modern society tries to strip away these instincts at every turn. So, I stopped listening to the messages that bombard us from every direction and I started living my life on my own fucking terms, not the terms foisted on me.
Since my father died when I was young, I’ve had to learn much of what is discussed here through life experience. I’ll never be a supplicating male again, I can tell you that. Experience is a cruel teacher, but the lessons are ones I’ll never forget. The media and popular culture did nothing but delude me through my teen years and into my mid-20s. They’ve completely castrated most other men.
I love good women too. But remember, they can let you down much harder than a bad woman can. Never let yourself become fully invested. The most I will let myself become invested is around 70% of my feelings, and that’s only for rare exceptional girls I’ve been with for 4+ months.
When you limit your emotional investment you can never be as hurt when the relationship goes south, but you also won’t be as happy when the relationship is going well. You limit your upside potential to get downside protection.
Happiness is a worthless pursuit for a man, only greatness is worthy.
And never allow yourself to be too invest in a relationship is solid advise. Saying it is like a problem is like saying the credit boom in the US in the 2000’s was great because everybody got rich. Zero change in temperament is what a man should seek
I totally agree. You must maintain the upper hand throughout the relationship. Lose “hand” and your lady will soon be hopping up under some other guy who does dominate her.
I feel really sorry for you all on here. You don’t seem like real people to me. Don’t worry about getting the upper hand, meet the right girl. Then you’ll be able to give yourself 100% and she’ll do the same. You seem to think that women aren’t people. That’s weird. It seems to me that none of you have had a normal relationship. Even just sleeping with girls I feel like they’ve probably had more respect for me than many of your partners must have for you. Because I recognise that women are people. Of course some women are out for themselves, just like some men are. We’re all people. Don’t judge an entire gender by the worst ones. If everyone did that, you guys would be totally screwing me over right now.
Pretty much says it all, really.
Yes, it definitely does! Haha.
She wouldn’t want any nasty little babies getting in the way of her career either. Who cares about passing on her family’s lineage? That’s sooooo antiquated.
Take away the “Post” and you’ve got yourself a winner…
J.P.
Picture speaks a thousand words…
Can’t spell ” Ferocious Social Justice Woman” with out “Cum on Julie’s Face.”
I like to think that the reason I took the red pill and found the manosphere was that I was never that much into movies and TV.
I just found it boring, never really gave a fuck about last night’s movies on TV my classmates were constantly talking about.
Remember: Average things (like TV) are for average people. For anyone to want to be average is an insult to your whole genetic line which fought through life from the smallest bacteria up to you to live on.
Great point. Not only do most movies and TV shows not interest me in the slightest, sports don’t interest me, either. Getting off on watching other people pretend to do things on TV was never my bag. I’d rather have my own awesome adventures in real life.
It’s amazing to hear these mindless drones go on and on about their favorite team. I laugh at them talking about last night’s “big game” like they were personally down there on the field slogging it out. In reality, at best they were sitting on the sofa scratching themselves eating Cheetos.
They even go around bragging about it when their team wins, as if they actually participated in it. They form cults of personality around their favorite ball players with religious zeal, as if those ball players would ever give a fuck about them. Sports fanaticism is quite a thing to behold.
Sports are beautiful and a necessary part of a healthy society. Since the Roman times humans have marvelled over sport, competition, and the like. What’s more alpha then being a gladiator? If you were unathletic as a child perhaps you have a distain for sport in general because it brings up bad emotions. But liking and supporting sports is perfectly normal and bad-ass. TV I aree with you a bit more on.
Yes, men make men better friends than women do because friendship is based on shared life. Only husband and wife in marriage can be a friendship between the sexes.
Too bitchy, too fat, too demanding, too boring, too self-absorbed, too materialistic, a bad lay? Dump her and move on. I make the choices about which women I want. They don’t choose me anymore.
That includes taking women off the pedestal and putting myself on it. Really, women are worthless to me except for occasional companionship and sexual gratification. I now find it hard to believe I held them in such high regard in the past. They really can be horrible little creatures. That said, I respect the hell out of the rare “good” woman immensely. They’re like beautiful flowers that grow out of a pot of dirt.
I find that following my natural instincts goes a long way. Modern society tries to strip away these instincts at every turn. So, I stopped listening to the messages that bombard us from every direction and I started living my life on my own fucking terms, not the terms foisted on me.
Since my father died when I was young, I’ve had to learn much of what is discussed here through life experience. I’ll never be a supplicating male again, I can tell you that. Experience is a cruel teacher, but the lessons are ones I’ll never forget. The media and popular culture did nothing but delude me through my teen years and into my mid-20s. They’ve completely castrated most other men.
Pop culture influences have done their damage as well. Listen to country music especially. It’s white knight paradise and beta blues all rolled into one. And I admit I like the tunes but the lyrics many times make me laugh.
Seems to be that men these days only value themselves for the ability to date women. Problem is Rome is burning all around them. It’s going to take them down with it.
Yeah, good point. What the hell happened to country? It used to be outlaw music; now it’s like church music with a rock backbeat.
One of the few places to get Red Pill lyrics is black American music, like old blues or almost any kind of rap CD. If you removed that influence from popular music, I can’t imagine how Beta it all would be.
Try Neue Deutsch Harte (New German Hard Rock.) It has a lot of masculine themes in it, plus German is an awesome, manly language to learn.
Start with Rammstein’s Du Hast. The song is about refusing to get married. “Will you be true to her until death do you part.” To which the band members all scream NEIN! (No!) Another Rammstein hit to check out is Rosenrot. The lyrics tell the story:
The boy climbs the mountain in torment
He doesn’t really care about the view
Only the little rose is on his mind
He brings it to his sweetheart
She wants it and that’s fine
So it was and so it will always be
She wants it and that’s the custom
Whatever she wants she gets
At his boots, a stone breaks
Doesn’t want to be on the cliff anymore
And a scream lets everyone know
Both are falling to the ground
The imagery of a boy/man going out of his way to please a woman is an awesome social commentary on Western civilization. His supplication ends in both of them falling off the edge of a cliff.
Rammstein is AWESOME….I love “keine lust”.
if you have not seen THIS clip? Brother…do yourself a favour and watch this. I did not know these guys were acting when I first saw this.
Oh yes, I’ve seen all their videos and even seen Rammstein live in concert. Keine Lust is an awesome tune. Other awesome Neue Deutsch Harte Bands include Oomph!, Eisbrecher, and In Extremo. Oomph! just came out with a really awesome song called Regen which is about happily kicking a female to the curb.
German rock still has some balls, unlike the feminized, whiny chick music we have here in the States.
Fun fact: Rammstein lead singer Lindemann’s father was a poet.
Rammstein – Ich tu dir weh
I’m hurting you
I’m not sorry
It does you good
Hear how it screams
basically a song about rough sex.
HAHA! I didnt even read your posting until I posted mine. We made a very similar point. You know what they say…if two people come to the same conclusion independently, it must be true.
Good point. I noticed that in country music. Very beta. Rap is going that way too. When rap music (black dudes) turn super soft, you know it’s over for men.
I’m going to have to cosign on this. Ever since the late ’90s i’ve been seeing bitchassness at an alarming rate coming out of the hip hop music community and it’s ever present now. Some might call me an uncle tom or whatever, but if you take a look at this hyper masculine (ffs no one uses their fists in a fight; just guns and youtube) fashion show, you’ll shake your head and go underground.
If you play those songs backward, do the guys get their stuff back?
This article essentially validates the efficiency and effectiveness with which the mainstream media (tv, film, internet, etc..) is able to brainwash legions of men into abandoning their power.
I have a girlfriend who I would consider well above average in looks, since we started dating I have gotten her to go to the gym, to jog, to drink less alcohol. When she tries to disrespect me I put her in her place. I am rough, I am hard, I am cruel with her at times, I even treat her like complete shit sometimes, and alas after all the weak betas she has met, she loves me to death for it. My kindness to her means something because it is conditional.
I have noticed, with her and all other women, that they will try again and again to emasculate and gain the upper hand. It is in their nature. You must be ever vigilant and put yourself FIRST and put her down. You must dominate her, you must let her know that if she pushes your boundaries there will be repercussions. You must self amuse, not look to her for ANYTHING but sex and the occasional conversation. And when you do go for sex with her, you must ignore all her token resistance, overpower her, tear her clothes off, bend her over backwards and slap her ass, hard, fuck her, cum and don’t even bother with whether or not she liked it, then go do whatever the fuck it is you want to do as though she wasn’t even there. This is what women really want, to be an ACCESSORY IN YOUR LIFE, AN OBJECT OF DESIRE, an objectified piece of MEAT.
But of course mainstream society can’t go ahead and say this. It would be far too unsettling to peddle this truth around.
This was not always the case. Once upon a time I was like the majority of the men in this survey, putting women on a pedestal, thinking they were special, thinking only they could validate my existence as a man. I was pining for their attention, would be happy just to get a good conversation going in a bar, I would get all excited. Why you ask? I was raised by my mom, who was dumped by my father, the womanizing alpha. She became a man hater and raised two boys in a pretty emasculating manner.
This is another part of western society, a cancer that has grown for decades, fatherless children, and it isn’t just divorce, its also emotionally shut off fathers, workaholic fathers, etc. Men raised by women without a proper male mentor to guide them in the ways of being a man. Men raised by women who HATE MEN because they are divorced with children and thus have a low chance of ever snaring a high quality man again. Could you think of a worse environment in which to raise a strong healthy confident male?
What this survey shows is that with the proliferation of technology, the state and its aims at creating a mass of weak willed betas has overpowered the individual, the family, the community in being able to shape and mold culture. In other words, big brother has won and we are now dissecting the remains of the patriarchy it has long since crushed under its foot. To resurrect it would mean reshaping media, film, pop culture, laws, social programs, EVERYTHING. It amazes me now, years after having read Fight Club and seen the movie that I did not understand what it was about until recently…it was about this very situation we are describing, in which men are missing a proper masculine outlet which has resulted in a bunch of Edward Norton’s character running around desperately trying to appease the pain and suffering of the single mom that raised them by being a fucking emotional tampon to women who neither respect nor are attracted to them.
“I have noticed, with her and all other women, that they will try again and again to emasculate and gain the upper hand. It is in their nature. You must be ever vigilant and put yourself FIRST and put her down. ”
My fav#1 told me. “When a woman does something wrong you must stomp on her and put her in her place. If you do not do this? She will fight you and provoke you and make your life hell until you DO stomp on her and put her in her place.”
This was a bit of a revelation for a man who was told “never hit a woman for any reason”….My fav# called that the worst idea she had ever heard. I simplify my problems by never dating western women. Period.
I dated an italian woman who was raised in Germany. Even SHE caused me trouble……so the rule is iron clad now…NO WESTERN WOMEN FOR ME thank you very much. Born in Germany or further east is a pre-requisite.
This is completely true. My life only started becoming easier(and it’s still hell) when I realised that women do not respond in a way that a man responds to kindness.
Altruism shown towards another man unless the man is of bad character is generally seen as a mutually beneficial activity. A good thing. Show the same act of kindness towards a woman and you’ll generally be regarded with contempt, apathy or outright hostility.
Women’s minds are wired to perceive any act outside of outright brutality as weakness and respond accordingly. So the only way to respond is to be as nasty as possible.
You are such an idiot. Instead of realizing you have a broken woman as a girlfriend, you glorify cruelty in order to keep her in line. It is not love she is feeling for you, it is codependency.
Well, since women only get wet if you dominate them, what’s the point of love? Love yourself, dammit. At this point, they’re objects used to satisfy a need, because that is what women want: to be used, to be treated like shit, and made to chase us. Men aren’t advocating it; we’re merely meeting the demand.
Besides, sex is all that western women are good for. Just try having a conversation with the modern american twat; within 15 seconds, you’ll want to stuff your cock in their trap, because it’s like nails on chalkboard.
You admit being “cruel” to your girlfriend and you are proud of this? A real man doesn’t have to get power over anyone, a decent woman will love and support you if you do the same for her. I guarantee you NO woman wants to be with someone who is cruel, just as no man does. You will lose her or she will end up hating your guts. I’m sorry if you think this is a healthy, stable relationship!! Perhaps try therapy rather than dating for a while.
If you can’t are out of control of your relationships and thinking degrading the woman in your life is the way to get it, perhaps this is why you’ve had trouble. Emotionally stable people seek out other people who are also emotionally stable. Women who are healthy emotionally will not tolerate your treatment and this is why your relationships will always be a nightmare. I’m a therapist, sorry, I think you need to see someone.
Signed,
A Happily married woman whose husband is equally happy.
And if I were married to your uppity, entitled, bitchy, demonstrative twat, I’d be missing my testicles, as well. Nonetheless, I hope that your husband gets them back, some day.
What the F*** do you, a married woman, know about being a real man? Nothing. Absolutely not a god damn f’n thing, because you are not a man. But hey, I’m reasonable with idiots, so let me help you: Real men, especially in today’s world, are not only expected to achieve financial success, but compete with the entitled she-beasts who set those asinine requirements. Real men, have had to tolerate over THIRTY YEARS of whiny, bitchy, over-exaggerated, estrogen filled complaints from single mothers, immature ex girlfriends, and dual-x chromosome calamities, like you. Real men, not only have to suffer through unfair competition in an over-feminized work place, because they can’t guarantee a promotion for giving the boss a good blow job, unlike Rachel with a nice ass in produce… but, they also have to tolerate man-hating feminists that are gaining control of the same work environment, who exclude men from any type of advancement, and reward Rachel for having a god damn vagina.
However, I will admit that I overlooked something. You, oh Happily Married Woman, do sound like the definitive western wife: spoiled, pampered, elitist, oblivious, outspoken, narcissistic, selfish, arrogant, and overconfident in your finite grasp of reality; through the mainstream media, via Dr. Phil, you and the rest of your sex have earned an education in misinformation, left-wing lies, and the misappropriation of a woman’s worth. You exist to be cummed on, in, and thrown the F*** out. So, Wife, not only do I hope that your husband reacquires his manhood, but when he does, I hope that he clocks you the f*** unconscious. Not only will that reset the gender role’s in your happy, humble home, but it will also give YOU a reason to see someone, for being a disposable, deplorable cunt.
Have a nice marriage, get a real job, and go F*** yourself. >=).
Any post online that contains the words “real man” can now be conveniently ignored. So can posts from “proud married men” who are simply “doing marriage right”.
Lol don’t take him seriously, the percentage of men who actually think this way is very small. And as for asshideous sid underneath me, it’s conveniently ignored because the majority of people on the internet are not real men. They’re idiots with no self respect who therefor cannot have respect for anyone else. Hardly human if you ask me.
Lol I bet you never even had a girlfriend
Definition of “Alpha Male” according to Samseau: Random guy with lots of Nerdy baggage and bullying and videogaming history with no ability to connect with people. The alpha male’s traits are those defined in what is now replacing his videogaming addiction: Manosphere blogs. Although there are like 8millions of definitions of traits of Alpha male in those blogs, the “alpha male” chooses his own traits because it remembers him of the good ol’ days of choosing their class in their favorite roleplaying game. Main characteristic is however his Anti-Feminism, instead of not giving a shit about those idiotic phantoms and adapting and getting laid like men with social intelligence do.
This post reeks of passive aggressive female sarcasm.
This article must have peered into your soul.
Hi Lindy! thanks for stopping by!
U mad?
The younger generation is starting to wake up precisely because of men like Samseau. Wasn’t in the cards for me but at least my sons will have knowledge.
Ol’ trifling ratchet ass girl. Stop hating.
The vitriol in this post is the reason why no one loves you. Getting angry at the truth will not change that. I suggest you employ a different strategy.
The lemming thing looks like a blast, similar to skydiving, except you drown.
Those survey results are insane. I really think AskMen readership has got to be a much more beta sampling than western men in general. I have a ton of non-manosphere, relatively blue pill friends, but none of them would try to say a woman doesn’t lose her looks after 30, prenups aren’t important or any of the other ridiculous stuff in there.
Askmen has an audience of over 10 million men worldwide, I believe.
That doesn’t mean that the audience can’t be skewed in a particular direction.
Even if it were true that betas are drawn to sites like Askmen, how much of a skew do you think is there? 5%? 10%? 20%? I don’t think it can be too much given the nature of Askmen being tailored for the same kind of audience that reads Maxim, their longstanding reputation as a site that’s almost 10 years (or more?) old, and the fact that there’s a lot of advertising promoting Askmen. The site is also apolitical and tailors itself mostly to lifestyle issues. Kind of like a Cosmo for men.
Moreover, because Askmen is internet only, it means it will have a younger audience of men, which is really important since we need to know what young men are thinking in order to gauge what’s going to happen as the Boomers die off. I feel certain Boomers are more manly than their sons are. Thus I see serious value in this survey.
My only beef is if gay men voted (which it is 99% certain that they did); that could definitely skew things. I know for a fact that many gay men write articles for the site, their top 99 women feature has some of the ugliest women I could think of.
Regardless of how much of a skew there is, I think this is as good of a poll of men that we can get on questions of sex and dating in 2013, as there is no other scientific approach being done. A skew of 10-20% on some questions aren’t a big deal because many of the answers are so lopsided. Even if the survey method is not perfect, many of the principles are criticisms I laid out are still valid.
This site should create their own polls
http://pollcode.com/
I agree. I’ve been red pill-ish for 6 years (having found PUA in 2007….and actually started my transformation even before that). I never even heard of Ask Men until coming on this blog.
I think many guys here overestimate its reach.
If 80% of men are beta, how skewed could the stats really be?
Great article Samseau
The modern Western Male didn’t create the modern Western Female. They were both born into an already toxic environment and lacked the inherent strength to change it.
The percentage of the male population that will ever be sufficiently intelligent, self-aware, and motivated to increase his station in life is, and always has been, very low. The vast majority of both men and women are designed to adapt to the culture they were born into.
With our male peers as weak as they are, and women as powerless to recognize and pursue a needed change as ever, nothing short of catastrophe will open their eyes to how sick western society has become.
If you were to assign blame to one group of people across time for how bad things have become, it would have to be to the men who gave women the right to vote. They voluntarily gave up the throne, leaving their heirs to fight an almost impossible battle to win it back.
They failed the most blatant shit-test in the history, and now its we who are suffering the consequences.
knock out
Universal suffrage and the natural equality of man is the biggest lie ever told.
Actually, it was due to all of the available resources in the Americas that caused the merchant class to advocate for republicanist form of government (democracy) instead of a hereditary monarchy. It’s a structural problem… and the solution is a constitutional monarchy and state-established Christianity.
PS. If you disagree, than imagine how hard it would be for all of the beta males to take responsibility for their own, personal, moral agency. It’s a structure problem.
J.P.
J.P.
Please be aware that Republicanism is NOT Democracy.
Also, if you do some research, you’ll find the Constitution was written as a coup d’etat against the Articles of Confederation. It was a counter-revolution conducted under guise of government.
I see women voting in horrifically socialist governments in droves with non-sustainable economic plans (if they have any plans at all). Women want to be single and free now, and be married to the state, and have the state pay for their illegitimate offspring by milking men for more tax money whether said men are interesting in paying breeding costs or not. Men, of course, go along with anything and everything because their penis tells them to, and they know to go public with any contempt or even ask questions would be sexual suicide. So, on we go into this progressive-liberal hell hole of decay. Sad to say, that even as a parent, this planet is going to hell and the cockroaches and ants can have it. It’s really not a good place to be anymore, and modern relationships suck more than they’re worth. Humans just got too greedy, and everything (including people) is just disposable now.
Ah yes… The beta male vs alpha male question. I think of my father, a manly man in so many ways. He was an Alaskan bush pilot, a lumberjack, and a hunting guide among other things. He didn’t take shit from other men. But he always remained deferential to my mother, even when she was way over the line. He was a firm Christian, and I don’t think he would ever sleep around, even though I’m sure my mother did. I think he was an old fashioned guy who believed in standards that evaporated in the swirling cesspool of the 60s. I definitely had to forget everything he told me about women to score in the 21st century. I like to think that if he had seen things for what they were, he would have been the alpha that morality had repressed.
The modern beta is a poor copy of an old fashioned man, kissing ass trying to curry favor with women, and completely denying masculinity. I’m not proud of what has to be done to get women these days, but nihilism is the only way to respond today’s cynical woman. Gotta fight fire with fire.
“Look at the wording of the question – it is not, “Would you share racy pics that you received over the internet,” nor is it “Would you share racy pics that you received with anonymous strangers,” but “friends.” Any man who places more worth on some random chick he dates over genuine friends is extremely likely to be one massively weak beta. The other possibility is that men who voted no simply do not have good friends they can trust, in which case they do not understand that if you cannot trust someone they are not your friend.”
Mostly on point article, but I have to call out some sloppiness not only in the structure of the above-paragraph but of a particular sentence as well. Not sharing racy pics with friends doesn’t mean you “place more worth on some random chick [you] date over genuine friends.” This is an illogical leap that assumes the girl is a random chick. The question is partly to blame – there’s a lot of nuance left out of it, especially in regard to the status of the chick in question. It leaves out whether it’s a serious relationship or marriage, or just some random. Should’ve addressed that.
In other words, this is a true statement that was placed in the wrong context: “Any man who places more worth on some random chick he dates over genuine friends is extremely likely to be one massively weak beta.”
I don’t care about sharing pics of some girl on the side. But not sharing racy pics of a girl you’re serious with doesn’t make you a beta.
The ‘a woman starts losing her attractiveness by 40’ thing is what really blew my mind. I already knew most men were weak enough to cry when they cant give women orgasms (true story) and stick with a fat girl. I thought most ‘normal’ men agreed 30s were when a woman’s attractivenss careens off a cliff.
Actually I don’t think the manosphere goes far enough in regards to how fast looks fade. I remember reading an article somewhere where some guys took everything we know about beauty and created a computer program to generate the most attractive female face possible based on that. What came out was the face of a 14 year old. So you could say 14 is peak attractiveness (or at least beauty).
Now I don’t think I could fuck a 14 year old even if it was legal but it goes to show you that we vastly overestimate women’s sexual value here in the west, where we are saturated with lines like ‘a woman’s sexual prime is her 30’s-40’s’.
Her “sexual prime” is when her hormones make her want to f*ck anything with legs…
That’s not her prime BEAUTY age, though. 😉
If the masses are told that women need white-knighting and that they are indispensible after multiple cocks, then the masses (men and women) will internalise this message from mass media and act appropriately, even though acting on it may make them unhappy and cause society to collapse.
Seeing as the media won’t touch women’s supposed emancipation from men to enslave both parties to big gov/corporations/MIC/bankers, the best way for Western men to gain some sanity is to combat this on his own shores and on his terms. Dating foreign is good, but eventually most of them will turn once exposed to Western society and media, so you must know how to handle this by keeping both Western and non-western women in a position where they will at least try to cater to your needs as a team.
Unfortunately, feminism in all its forms has poisoned women to think of men as status objects and pawns to get ahead in life. This is a terminal problem for some women who have internalised such behaviour – this can’t be fixed. It is only incumbent upon those men who desire relationships to treat those women well who have earned it from the men, and even then some modicum of ‘game’ is required as an antidote to the negative behavioral conditioning that we have all been infused with.
The WORST thing about these sniveling manginas is not that they serve women like her obedient puppy, but they make all men’s lives a legal warzone by supporting tougher laws against men for the sake of cupcake’s feeelings. These manginas are the first ones to throw you under the bus for saying or doing anything that may bruise cupcake’s feeelings. They will never side with a man in an argument, they will condemn ‘wife beaters’ like Chris Brown, ‘rapists’, ‘sex offenders’ without doing any research as to how one-sided and censored the reporting is on these cases. The laws are designed to make it easy it is to be charged with these horrible sounding crimes – but only if you’re a man. Meanwhile, these mindless male bitches will ignore the very real suffering their fellow man experience in divorce court, in criminal court, in the media etc.
Seriously, there is just a severe lack of compassion for men in all human societies. Women have always been protected by men from all of the worst threats to life, even in the macho societies of the middle east. We’ve always been used by society which then refuses to give credit to us where it’s due, until they need a lot of men to sacrifice themselves for society. I will never fight or die for this CUNT society if there is a draft call.
These biases of the media and legal system are so blatant and obvious that anyone with a sense of fairness and hypocrisy can see the preferential treatment women receive and harsh treatment that men receive. Women are literally above the law; they can grope men without being labelled a “sex offender”, they can have sex with 14 year old boys without being labelled a “child molester”. they can murder babies, children without being labelled “baby killers” and they can beat or murder their mangina husbands without being labelled “abusers”. Try doing ANY of those things as a man and see how the cowardly legal system (NOT justice) drops on you like a pile of bricks. Meanwhile, women get a pussy pass for anything and everything, right up to child murder.
This is why I NEVER judge a man who has been convicted of a horrible sounding crime like “sexual assault” Because 9 times out of 10, his real crime was hurting a bitch’s feeelings while being male.
Look at the case of Andrea Yates. This child-murdering cunt drowned 5 of the kids in a bathtub and the media went into non-stop mode of treating her like a victim, ignoring the real victims of her crime, and blaming her husband for HER murderous actions. The result was that she is now in a mental hospital instead of prison. Instead of being treated like a criminal, she is a patient, someone who needs tender love and care from professionals. Imagine how crazy it would be to think if a man committed this same crime and didn’t receive death penalty, or even prison time.
I remember a few years ago hearing about my uncle being charged with “assault”.
It turns out that he came home caught my aunt in bed with another man and threw a cup of water at them.
Fuck sake, man … *shakes head*
Does Casey Anthony ring a bell? She fucking murdered a little girl, then went and danced on a bar, and then beat the rap in court.
this article
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/unc-landen-gambill-and-false-rape-culture/
FUCK YEAH! You Got it RIGHT Lyle! Fuck Society women Have it EVEN BETTER in Australia right up to the Fucktarded Law that says “You can Never Raise your Voice at a woman” How FUCKED UP IS THAT ONE!
I think it’s a self-reinforcing loop. Cunty behavior—> Beta supplication—-> more cunty behavior, and on and on it goes. There is no incentive for women to bring anything to the table other than a wet hole and a bitchy attitude.
The weight gain and lose looks questions are mind blowing.
I think you are off base slightly on 2&4. If you are alpha then you have little risk of losing your wife in divorce or having her cheat on you, fall out of love, etc. Where men run into problem is that they think they are alpha because “she said yes” when in fact she settled out of lack of opportunity.
Q5, You fell into the not reading carefully trap. “not finding out” is different than “she isn’t hurt”. They used the word partner which creates ambiguity in terms of the significance of the relationship. For those of us that are religious and married it would show a weakness of faith to be tempted out of our covenant not just with our wife but with God.
I never understood the purpose of pre-stalking unless you were trying to figure out how safe it would be to raw dog her.
**Where men run into problem is that they think they are alpha because “she said yes” when in fact she settled out of lack of opportunity.**
Very True. But this is a problem. And I heard somewhere today that the reason men are the way they are is because we don’t put ourselves FIRST. And they are right.
For example, to re frame your statement:
A man simply asking the question of any sort of commitment is technically “settling” for a particular woman. Having the power to decide is seen as the higher position, but he has to ultimately choose you first. If you never get the question, you are SOL. That is the right frame of mind to have.
Yet we culturally view it as looking for the approval of the woman. That is why we should remind ourselves that without your effort (the man), the relationship…any relationship with a woman would crumble.
I mean, there are women who would rather marry themselves, than to put themselves out there, and risk building a relationship with a man through their own effort. As much as they want it, they can’t fucking do it. They don’t know how. They have to get us to do it.
Where western men fail is in their inbred sexism, the permissible kind that women are ok with, they can’t see that THEY (Men) are the prize to be won.
I could respect a man who doesn’t cheat out of respect to God, but I could not respect a man who doesn’t cheat out of respect to his woman.
I’m little confused here. Isn’t it the same ? God does not request from you not to cheat to do him favors. That’s one shallow viewpoint on a god – omnipotent, ever present, everlasting being.
And then again, i think “cheating” is pretty much a marriage issue. Cheating a girlfriend = I’m not interested anymore and I’m moving on to another broad.
A woman is not God, so no it is not the same.
As far as I know, fooling around with other girls on your girlfriend is not prohibited by the ten commandments.
Let me be more precise. God does not one to be a sinner (according to bible, adultery is a sin) so he could join him in the kingdom of heaven after the world we know is destroyed (together with devil). Reason why adultery is a sin, is because it hurts other people. Sins can also hurt you, such as gluttony.
Therefore we come to the same point, and that is – not cheating because of god or woman/wife is same.
Btw, as a preemptive warning to possible trolls – no i’m not religious, and yes i would cheat.
I agree
“Reason why adultery is a sin, is because it hurts other people.”
Actually we don’t know that. God could prohibit adultery for the same reason he prohibits onanism (coitus interruptus) – merely because it is God’s will. Sometimes God wants to be obeyed just to be obeyed.
And specifically speaking, if you’re good at cheating she’ll never find out and no one will get hurt.
Tbh i think God prohibits adultery because throughout the bible we’ve seen some really stupid stuff go on like sending your best man off to war in the front lines to have his wife and a few more examples that i should probably look up out of curiosity. We’re so emotionally wasted as a species that this sorta rule makes sense. That plus if you polled how many men are willing to raise a house of children that aren’t his, you’d get the message loud and clear.
IF we were a bit more logical we’d be able to say “Alright, I want pizza tonight and maybe some fried chicken tomorrow night” and go safely bang who we want and return to a happy home, but we aren’t all logical.
If that woman hit me in the face I would beat her ass. And if, while I was giving the no you didn’t just hit me bitch look and she hit me in the junk…… I would go to jail if I had to I don’t care.
And those two women abusing that man in that way. Shame. Final, ultimate, position of the French, shame.
I have had these fetish bitches. There is no reason to not grab them by their scrawny throat, and throw them over the metal table where they work and have your way with them. Fuck them because you don’t care, they have chosen to be worthless. Then tell them to lick the shit off after you put your spit on it. Try not to let them stalk you as they tend to be internet savvy.
I do not understand these men. I get it, I use to be somewhat beta in that I thought I had to be nice, and essentially raised in public school that my maleness and manhood were evil. I sensed that something was wrong, and spent years trying to put stuff like this site together in my head. Everything I noticed were double standards. The girls in my school, I graduated in the late nineties, were highly entitled. Now, I think they are better by comparison.
I thought that men, if given the chance I was never given, would take the same road I would; has now potentially been proven wrong. I am almost ashamed to call myself American. Instead, I will say that none of these men are.
Hats off to that 1% of American and Aussie men who think women begin to lose their looks at age 20.
It was shocking to me when I saw that first hand. Met a solid 9.5 a few years ago (serious model quality, and a radiant heart too). The “no way this girl is for real” kind. I thought she’d have to be late 20s from her awareness but she’d just turned 20. She treated me better than most long-term girlfriends I’d had. Realizing that there was pretty severe abuse in her past, I reluctantly decided to end it after a couple months. There’d have to be a lot of healing and I didn’t want to sign up for that any more.
Fast forward three years, I came across her public FB profile and noticed lines her eyes. I couldn’t believe it with how she looked when we met. Damn… nature is not kind and a woman’s choices tip the scale either for or against.
Yeah, for real. American women really start packing the pounds in their twenties. It goes downhill real fast.
Age 20? What do you want them to be pre-pubescent? Are you a pedophile? And men don’t lose their looks ever? Come on, if your wife loves you, she loves you even when you put on a few or lose your hair. Your wife doesn’t deserve the same respect? Aging is inevitable. Grow up (emotionally), you sound like a teenager yourself.
Askmen is a bunch of recreants. There is no way Im buying this data can be extrapolated into the general populace. Q5 especially is a joke; <5% cheat on their partner?!?!
That’s just what they say. Of course, the beta male is a hypocrite who refuses to understand himself as a man.
Unbelievably fantastic article.Thanks for taken the time to write it. Will prime time TV is the US please start a show about the Return of Kings.? It is all totally accurate.
I swear I know the girl in the picture.
I used to competitive Salsa dance with her. It has to be her, even the mole on the face looks right. Where on earth did you guys get that picture? That’s just weird.
Which girl?
http://cdn.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/beta-training-620×350.jpg
http://cdn.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/beta-training-620×350.jpg
The girl getting her foot massaged in the title picture. Is she from California?
I dunno. Just found that pic on the RVF. Be sure to send her the link so she can enjoy her fame
Lololololol. This is why she dumped you, man. Below are things you actually wrote.
“Men are the superior sex”
There is no ‘superior sex’ only ‘superior assholes’.
“Women must be reminded that they are replaceable and expendable in order to keep them on their best behavior.”
Keep them on their best behavior? Zod, you sound like somebody’s repressed mother.
“There is no excuse for fatties, or fatty fuckers. I can forgive a man who bangs a fatty, but I cannot forgive a man who seriously dates one. If you know any such men, dear readers, then the Kings here ask you to disassociate yourself from them for the good of all mankind.”
I hate to break it to you, but a third of the US alone is overweight, and most of the adults are having plenty of delicious and awesome sex.
You need to change your handle to, “Notaman Datesfatdeigo”
Did you mean ‘Diego’?
Nope. Typo left in to clue readers about your value.
“There is no ‘superior sex’”
I’d actually agree with this. Thanks to years of feminism, social engineering, and the break down of the nuclear family, there are only two inferior sexes. You have men who have been turned into deficient women, and women who have become deficient men. Therefore we have NO ONE doing what women have traditionally done well in the past, and NO ONE doing what men have traditionally done well in the past. Just two sexes failing miserably at fulfilling roles neither is suited for.
“Keep them on their best behavior? Zod, you sound like somebody’s repressed mother.”
You sound like you think that’s a bad thing. Maybe what this society needs is a few more “repressed mothers”. Somebody has gotta’ teach these girls to respect themselves. And since we seem to have an epidemic of women kicking fathers out of the home, it’s probably gonna’ have to be momma. Unfortunately, momma hasn’t been doing the job. Saw a couple of vids on YouTube the other day. The first one had a group of mothers standing around cheering on their TODDLER daughters whom they had taught to “twerk” to “gangsta rap”. Hands down the most sad and disgusting thing I’d ever seen. Second had mom doing the twerking herself. There’s mom. Tiny pair of booty shorts, making her asscheeks clap to “Shake that ass, ho…” while her six or seven year old kid wandered in and out of the frame. The kid commented “Mamma, your ass stinks.”
“I hate to break it to you, but a third of the US alone is overweight,
and most of the adults are having plenty of delicious and awesome sex.”
Ummm. No. I hate to break it to YOU, but the guys fucking the 33% of obese American women are not having “delicious and awesome sex”. They’re settling for the best they can get while closing their eyes and fantasizing about the cute, slender blonde at the coffee shop.
And the 33% of obese American men aren’t getting laid at all, because their natural counterparts would rather be a stand in for the hand of a guy two or three points above them for a night, when he has nothing else available, rather than settle for an actual relationship with a “gross fat guy”. (And no, they don’t seem to see the irony…) All the while, deluding themselves that eventually one of the dudes pumping and dumping them is gonna’ “see the beauty within”, (something that they, themselves don’t have the ability or inclination to do) and commit.
I’m trying to respond, honestly, I am, but I can’t stop laughing.
What can I say? I’m a funny guy. Though I’d be the first to admit that I’m not half as funny as the sad, ridiculous freak-show this country is becoming…
Your laughter is most likely due to a lack of understanding. This is what children do as well. No surprise, given your gender.
http://wwwwwwwww.at/trolls/t/src/132754180299.jpg
This article is the biggest piece of shit I have read. It’s people like you that make domestic violence an ongoing problem. I feel sorry for any woman that encounter your toxic outlooks on life
what do you think about this article then?:
In terms of written material, I’m always sceptical of both articles written in the Daily Mail and, in particular, articles written on 1st April. Just an observation.
Great that such articles are being discussed. I have MANY times criticised MEN as the people are are causing the failure of the west because of their refusal to deal with the women in their families.
This is one of the most damning against MEN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlJxOTDeG8E
Good article, and respectfully just want to inquire about the survey and whether or not it may be a ‘survey’ that has been put through the feminists filter. I know that men today have no spine, but the answers seem quite appalling.
The last little video makes me think of “Ow My Balls!” on Idiocracy. Yet another example of how that movie is prophetic.
If you try to separate a beta with his delusional view of women he will become violent and potentially try to kill you for it.
There is nothing more dangerous than an angry Beta White Knight.
He has the avarice and caprice of a female with the resource capacity of a male. Although beta males are disgusting they’re not to be trifled with as many of them hold authority and power and are not afraid to wield them against their fellow man in exchange from a polite hello from a 5.
Jack,
“avarice and caprice of a female with the resource capacity of a male”
This is very good. Being a Created Beta, and now rather bitter type – I’ve decided I can use these negative traits in a positive way, and make the world hell for those who are trying to trick us into worshipping our own subservience (becoming Omegas, maybe?)
I hope there are others out there who will do the same, or provide material support for what is to come.
Terminator was apt – but we’ll be facing nanotech. Why engage on the macro scale when you can deal with the micro, and no one even knows?
Economics as a weapons was barely the start. We’re aware of that seige, now – so “they” are moving on.
Brainwashing via TV “Programming” is even pase, now.
Let’s make them bleed for every micron from here on in…
Another problem that I don’t think has been discussed very much is how
much women themselves have been brainwashed into thinking disgusting
beta behavior from males constitutes “proper” male behavior. Against their true natures, they schizophrenically reject not only feminine behavior from women (staying thin, pleasant dispositions, trying to look good), but also masculine behavior from men. It’s the flip side of beta males actively seeking out fatter, bitchier, less feminine women as partners. I’ve noticed with my new attitude that in many cases the tankgrrls and plain janes treat me worse than they did before, with more snark and bitterness, or just plain avoidance. And if they have boyfriends and are somewhat more attractive (7 or 8 range), they often don’t know how to deal with me, thinking I’ll be a beta orbiter like all the other betas and fags they hang with, discover otherwise, and drop me like a hot potato. I’m in the bizarre situation where the only girls who actually treat me well are the handful of knockouts in town that beta males won’t touch with a ten-foot pole and who could actually in theory compete with Russian chicks. I’m not going to complain about it… but it definitely goes to show that the bulk of Americans, both men and women, need to be de-brainwashed.
Personally, I think cheating is immoral, from either gender. I’ve never cheated on a girlfriend before….not because I couldn’t, but because I simply think it’s wrong to break a commitment like that. If we all start cheating, then we are no better than women (who, as we know, cheat rampantly).
If she’s a good girlfriend, you shouldn’t do it. But if she’s a bad one, you should, or at least keep yourself open to doing so.
If she’s a girlfriend why bother? You are no more obligated to her than if she were a stray cat.
“Cheating” is for married folk. It has never been nor ever will be a issue of any real bearing for those who date or are just “seeing”each other.
The non-married have nothing to loose if a partner dallies around on the side.
The married (both male and female) have everything to loose.
Again, yet another “femcentric”mind set that has crept into modern thinking…
I sometimes feel that people often forget that the whole ‘girlfriend’ thing is a temporary, in most cases, trial period. You aren’t obligated to buy (except ‘maintenance fees’) and doing so is really up to you in the end. That being said I highly doubt most men will know if their girlfriend has or is currently cheating and being made a fool of.
This is what honesty looks like. Unvarnished.
This is what honesty looks like. Unvarnished.
Dr L Wilson knows the true reason behind this sad state of affairs. It is immensly important for ALL men to lead and RULE. Quote from his website:
“The essence of the sexual order is that the male needs to take the lead in most aspects of the relationship until the woman reaches a particular level of maturity in which she can understand and practice what may be called “a male view of the world”. This sometimes occurs early in a woman’s life, even during childhood if she is raised correctly. In other cases, it never occurs. However, in most cases, it rarely happens until she is 30 or older, and usually after 40 or 50 years of age. This is the essence of the sexual order. The reason for this is that women attract entities to themselves that lodge in the vaginal area that distract them and affect their judgment. This happens to all women, regardless of age, sexual activity or anything else. Men do not have this problem, so their judgment, in general, is better than that of women.”
http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/SEXUAL%20ORDER.htm
Why western men generally, do not lead?
It has everything to do with, guess what?
HAIR.
Just check societies where men grow thick dark hair: Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey. Are guys there easily tricked by bitches? You can say a lot about those hairy muslims or sikhs or buddhists…
but the last thing they do is to obey women.
Food for thought, fellas.
I Pulled a passage that literally sums up the discourse of the western world:
PROBLEMS WITH THE NEW AGE AND GAIA MOVEMENTS
“Also, emotion too often leads the way, and anyone who does not agree with their position is branded or labeled as cold, unfeeling, heartless and so on. The smearing of personalities, class warfare talk, race baiting, and attacking people, rather than arguing for concepts, occurs because the environmentalist’s ideas cannot be thought through logically in too many cases. This is what I would call immature female thinking, victim thinking, and extremely unwholesome thinking, and very common in the political, economic and other realms of society today.”
Good read
The fuck am I reading? This ain’t rocket science, Habib.
Hey WTF with that Gif at the end where that bitch punches a man’s nuts ? that was the most cringe-worthy Gif I have ever seen…a little warning next time please. it is bad enough that TV and society makes me feel like crap for being male, I come here to escape that sort of crap.
What the fuck. Even 25yo girls don’t have the same tight asses like 15yo girls anymore (legal where I live).
Women age FAST.
The average western male’s brain is filled with shit, lies and delusion.
You are scum.
You are mad.
Excellent article.
It’s easy to point the finger at women for this mess, and to be annoyed by the current weaknesses in the female character. But we men have been there at every single step along the way, enabling it with our own character weaknesses. As much as I think women need to be criticized, men still need to be as well.
I was beta when younger, because I have aspergers and I expected others to treat me the same as I had treated them. I quickly learned this was wrong and it took most of high school to figure out how the hell I need to treat people for me to be happy. So now I don’t give a fuck about anyone aside from myself, my friends have noticed this change when it comes to me and they’ve noticed I don’t date anymore , instead I just hookup and have fun. It’s a much happier way to live.
Though I feel he doesn’t go far enough, alpha and beta men also are generally unimportant and should be used.
I see no reason to respect anyone other than yourself, as you are the only one who is truly important, you can have friends, and respect them to a degree, but really self-interest is the most important thing for success.
We men could possibly work together for success, however, I feel that would lessen my own success, as it would all of us. So by the rule of capitalism and free markets let all of us agree to abuse and control everyone we come across to ensure our own personal happiness.
It will be good competing with you gentleman. And as is always the case, may the best man win.
3/10 concern troll
yess!!!!! share the photos of your long term girlfriend with your mates, put them er internet, let´s ruin her life, career and possibility to ever have any other boyfriends just because she wanted to please you with sexy photos, or even send them when she was underage!! c´mon let´s all do it!! let me hear you say: let´s make the year 2013 year of suicides!!!!!!!
You use the word “beta” a lot. Are you 12? Is the widdle bitty beta boy 12 years old? Awwww how cute
You use 16 year old girl shaming language a lot. Are you sure that dick isn’t a strap on?
most women nowadays are very sad and Pathetic.
well the women that are out there nowadays certainly do Suck to begin with, and that is why many of us Real Good Men can’t meet a Decent Woman Anymore to have a relationship with.
LOL Men are naturally “superior”…Maybe it is your ignorance and narcissism why women treat you badly. Being born with balls doesn’t really make you superior. It’s like white people saying I’m superior because I’m white. Really? If you get respect in life or are proud of yourself, perhaps it should be because of your accomplishments, not simply thinking you deserve special treatment for how you’re born…What a dumb ass…
After reading some of these comments I can see why the men on this site have so much trouble with women lol. Sorry, nobody will want a narcissistic douche bags who have an over developed sense of entitlement to whatever you want which is certainly not due to your character and charm.
“Men are naturally the stronger and superior sex…” I immediately stopped reading right there. I am a woman and I fully, wholeheartedly support mens rights, but men are not superior you fucking idiot. Neither gender is superior over each other. Both are superior in their own way, for they both need each other and they both follow important roles in life. It is the yin-yang and one cannot exist without the other. To say men are better than women is like saying night is better than day or rationality is better than irrationality. Without irrationality there would be no rationality. Without bad you wouldn’t know what good is. Without energy there would be no matter. And vice versa. Please get off your high horse you closet-misogynistic twat.
Very worth a look.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/Forums/tabid/359/forumid/804/scope/threads/Default.aspx
For fathers-http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Home.aspx
Brils.
I don’t think we should be bashing marriage here. Marriage is a property arrangement, and the woman is the property (see http://titus25.com/category/women-as-property/). Marriage is an avenue to never doing dishes, changing diapers, cleaning house or cooking food again. The problem is that the government recognizes the property as an equal in the arrangement. Government is the problem here, and government gives women their power.
That said, no one should need a pre-nup or to have an affair, because the wife should know some simple facts to make sure she knows her place:
1. If you file for divorce you’ll get shot
2. If you get fat I’ll kick you to the curb (you don’t make good on it, the threat is enough)
3. If I feel like taking a second wife you’re getting a roommate.
1 Timothy 2:11-15
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
The three roles of men: Protect, Provide, Procreate.
In the distant past, a man had to rely on his own to protect his family. Now, we are to call the police, and the military is now only 1-2% of the population. That job has been outsourced.
Decades ago, a man was the one who brought home the bacon for the wife to cook. Now typically, she shares that responsibility. Or in the case of welfare, that responsibility is outsourced completely.
With those two roles removed, there is a skewed view on procreation. An unhealthy sexuality is everywhere, manifesting in the hookup culture and the gay agenda. The tradition of dating, marriage, then family is disappearing. Along with it is disappearing morality for future generations.
Let us be men, and rise to the challenge. Be tough, work hard, and have a traditional family.
I don’t think so.
No, keep sucking.
Betas, while they are easy to look down upon, are necessary to Western Civilization. Betas are the rank and file of Western Civilization, and they need strong Alphas as leaders for their guidance and wisdom. Alphas themselves need to accept some of the blame for the degeneracy that plagues us. Modernity has corrupted the Alpha with access to so much easy pussy that he has lost his drive to rule and guide betas the way he has in the past. The alpha has degenerated too. Egalitarianism, free for all democracy, equality and other social Marxist concepts are the symptoms, not the cause. These flawed concepts are born in the beta mind because Alphas have failed to rule and lead.
Let’s be honest, the western male is a bundle of cowardice. Plain and simple. Physical and mental weakness best defines the western fool who would gladly start wars and kill other men to please his female overlords. Western women are a reflection of their male counterparts – Airheads the lot of them.
You lost me at “superior sex.” and “Can only do what men grant them.” Women don’t need a mans permission lol you dumbbbbb
Thirst drives men mad. Guys everywhere are more than happy to say or do things they normally wouldn’t in order for a roll in the hay. I have seen it time and again, especially in high schools. Dweebs like that kid in the photo giving a foot massage are embarrassing themselves in the hopes that their kowtowing to the feminist line will get them some action.
Before 1950, that wasn’t the case. Why? Because sex wasn’t on the table prior to marriage. Because of societal and religious pressure, the slut was looked down upon. She did not have the power to use her pussy to control men. However, multiply the numbers by 100, and then they now have the ability.
There are two ways to remove the thirst, through ample supply (PUA) or by quitting altogether (MGTOW). Unfortunately, the betas and the cucks (married or not) are constantly thirsty, sometimes intentionally caused by their wives. If you don’t want to go either of those routes, you can live the traditional lifestyle and stay chaste prior to marriage, and marry a chaste wife. This removes the thirst if you are not having sex because of personal reasons, rather than letting the girl be the gatekeeper. Once you are married, use your Mojo and PUA skills to get the ample supply of sex you want.