“As blushing will sometimes make a whore pass for a virtuous woman, so modesty may make a fool seem a man of sense.”
-Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)
Most men seek to escape the Matrix of the Anglosphere to find a ‘good’ woman. Let’s assume you travel to a foreign country full of beautiful women, and you do happen to find your ‘unicorn’. There is still the danger of being conned by your beautiful foreign girlfriend who could be a social prostitute (part-time prostitute) or have a history of indulging in it. There are certain signs that must be kept in mind to identify such women.
Most social prostitutes are casual about prostitution, but what must be understood is that a woman who can separate sex from love and commitment isn’t really the type you’d be looking for, especially when it comes to seeking loyalty within a relationship. Her loyalties are basically reserved for the highest bidder; and if you fail to bid consistently, you’ll lose her in the end.
Even women who haven’t prostituted themselves can exhibit these traits below. Technically they may not be prostitutes, but they still have a prostitute’s mindset. Essentially, they prostitute themselves to their husbands, boyfriends or lovers for a period of time, as long as these men can afford them. This has led to the coinage of the term ‘legalized prostitution’ to such relationships where men are essentially indirectly paying for sex.
Most of the time, women indulge in prostitution out of a need for financial resources, but in today’s world, a love of authority and fame, or even the simple need to be maintained by men in return for sex, often propels women into this path voluntarily. So here are the signs you must observe for:
1. She’s obsessed about money and excessively materialistic.
The classic whore’s mindset: she talks money, thinks money, eats money, sleeps money. This woman can easily be seduced with offers of money, and sometimes even asks for it. She never refuses offers of cash gifts. Money will open her legs and give her gina tingles faster than game.
2. She rates men on their income, social status and influence (disregarding character), and has guy friends who are all above her in status. She often compares her friends’ “successful” boyfriends to you.
The guy ‘friends’ might as well be her customers. If she idolizes rich and ‘successful’ men of questionable character, it shows where her priorities lie. A little attention from such men is enough for her to pull down her panties for them.
3. She berates and criticizes women who date men below them in social and economic status.
She thinks: Stupid and foolish bitches, who fall in love and date cheap customers. Couldn’t they get snag richer clients?
4. She immediately warms up to you and emits coy sexual vibes, once she learns of your well-to-do background. Sometimes, she downright pursues you.
Whores are the epitome of female financial hypergamy.
5. She constantly reminds you of the things that she’s done for you.
Especially of the sex she provided for you. What else can she do for you except provide her ‘special’ orifices for you on demand? You should be grateful for the skilled services she provided for you, she’s saying, since she’s done a better job than what her competitors would’ve given you.
6. Her affection gradually or suddenly changes for you when you’re having financial or social difficulties, or after learning of your humble financial health.
Why would she want to waste time with a ‘financial loser’ who can’t support her?
“Whores don’t live in company of poor men, citizens never support a weak company and birds don’t build nests on a tree that doesn’t bear fruits.”
– Kautilya , 370 BC-283 BC
7. She has a poor or average income, but she manages to afford a comparatively affluent lifestyle without family support.
Who pays for it? Is she surviving on a financial loan?
8. She has (or had) a debt problem, but she’s paying (or paid) it off remarkably fast.
This applies especially student loans or expensive degrees. Same question: Who pays for it, and how?
9. She feels uncomfortable displaying affection in public, even though she gives out a modern woman vibe.
Unless she comes from a culture which is religious, sexually conservative, or repressed, most modern woman in relationships usually have no problem with light petting or affection from their men in public. If she’s already been intimate with you before, she ironically dresses sexily or she comes from a sexualized cultural background, this post-sex public self-consciousness becomes an even greater red flag. If she dislikes your hand on her thigh or a casual brush on her ass when in public, it is a sign of emotional disconnection from you. Or it could be a sign that you’re below her, and just a customer she’d only like to be intimate with in private.
10. You happen to find stuff like condoms, vaginal douche, BDSM gear and sex toys in her handbag which she carries in public. Or if you move in with her, you happen to find stuff like wigs and whore outfits in her wardrobe.
Who carries or keeps stuff like that? Only experienced professionals. Wigs are to camouflage her identity on her ‘calls’.
11. She is known by multiple names among people. Her guy friends call her with different names, or she asks you to address her by a name which is not her real name. Also: she has multiple cell numbers.
This is a big red flag. If your Monika is called as Marina by some other guy, it means that’s one of those names is her whore alias. She doesn’t want to be known by her real name to protect her identity. Multiple cell numbers are obvious: one is for personal or casual use, the other one is for official or ‘work’ (prostitution) use.
12. She tends to have jobs working late nights.
Such jobs are often ‘whore-creating’ jobs. More so if these jobs are in environments when around men who are often willing to spend money at nights to get easy sex. Most women (especially poor girls) find it an easy way to make side money.
13. She’s worked in the bar, stripper, promotions, glamor and entertainment, PR, HR, PA, hospitality, airline and modeling industry. Or she has visited or hails from the sex industry hotspots of the world.
Though not all women (NAWALT, lol) who work in these industries are like that, the casting couch exists a lot in these industries. Stereotypes are often derived from some reality. Women in these industries and areas have more access to rich and influential men who’d be willing to pay for booty. Don’t exonerate her easily before doing a thorough background check on her work.
14. She usually doesn’t answer your messages or calls if you message or call her at nights even though she is an night owl or has an active nightlife.
She tells you later that she was either ‘working’ or ‘busy’, or she messages you a text reply without answering your call. If she says she was deep asleep at say 10 or 11 pm when she usually hangs out late, you’re probably being bullshitted.
15. She tends to be usually ‘busy’ within the week without explaining what ‘busy’ is.
‘Busy’ is the code word for booked or reserved, a term commonly used by prostitutes. A normal girl will rather tell you directly what she’s doing to postpone plans, instead of using the ambiguous, business-like ‘busy’.
16. She tends to “schedule” sex once you’ve become intimate.
A typical trait of prostitutes. You’ll get sex at ‘so and so’ time ideally for ‘so and so’ duration with ‘so and so’ service at ‘so and so’ place.
17. She boasts and prides herself of her sexual skills and how men are attracted to her, but she’s thin-skinned at personal criticism and jealous of beautiful women.
The whore’s attention whoring. What else is she good at, except sex and attracting customers? Whores are also thin-skinned at criticism because of low self esteem, not to mention of envy against younger and more beautiful women whom they’d try to demean.
18. She speaks out in favor of prostitution and admires famous prostitutes of lore.
Her role models and her sympathies often lie with the ideology and lifestyle she’s affiliated with. She doesn’t look down on her prostitutes or women who indulge in it.
19. She has very ‘successful’ friends who are quite old for her age group.
These could be her sponsors (often sexual clients.)
20. She’s had a surprisingly quick promotion and salary hike in a short period, or her new boss is someone she met in her previous workplace.
She’s being (or been) the boss’s bitch.
21. Her social circle includes women who are actual whores.
Birds of the same feather flock together. And if the alpha girl in her clique is a whore, you can safely deduce that your girl has also dabbled in that as well.
22. She avoids contacting her family, especially the males. The men in her family disrespect her.
This is a sign her parents know and disapprove of her whoring, and have disowned her.
23. She’s traveled to short vacations with some of her guy ‘friends’ even though she couldn’t afford it.
She was basically an out call escort for the duration of the trips or in more dignified terms, ‘a travel companion’.
24. She frequently uses the word bitch, slut and whore to describe her friends or women she doesn’t like.
What she does in her life relives in her mind. She’s simply projecting onto others what she’s done and been called before by others.
25. She lets you act out all your wildest sexual fantasies with her during your first few sexual encounters with her (screwing her ass and shooting your load in her mouth, golden showers, etc).
She does this to impress and reserve you as a long term customer. The first impressions (sexual experiences) are the lasting impressions. Sex then goes rapidly downhill, unless you ‘give her’ something in return to reenact those first encounters. No matter how lousy the sex will get later, she knows you’ll always reminisce those exhilarating first times with her, and keep going back to her to relive those ‘memorable’ encounters.
26. Sex, frequent at first, gradually becomes a reluctant transactional chore she performs for you after much cajoling from you, or after only you’ve done something for her first (usually something of monetary value).
She rarely initiates sex, and rewards you with great sex (anal and all kinky acts – either voluntarily or by your request) only after you’ve gifted or done something ‘exceptional’ for her.
Pay for pleasure please! The sex is your transaction reward. (in her mind)
27. Her sarcasm includes dick size and ejaculation time, which she uses to pick on men.
It’s typical, uncouth prostitute or slut communication jargon to shame men.
28. She has dated way older “successful” men than her in the past—mostly from social networking sites or workplace.
“Successful” translates into rich here. These men are often her past clients. Social networking sites, being used for prostitution, is an old story.
29. She spends a lot on trying to look younger than her age, and has a morbid fear of growing old.
“Old age is a woman’s hell”
– Ninon de Lenclos (1620-1705)
Their appearance is their greatest (and often only) ‘virtue’, apart from sexual skills.
30. She has a materialistic, divorced or promiscuous mother who has male issues, to whom she’s very close. Whores raise whores.
Women always resemble their mothers in the end, especially when it comes to character. And a whore mother or a mother who shares a gold digging mindset will propel and exonerate her daughter’s path into whoredom. Her exoneration will be enough justification for her daughter to whore herself with impunity. A separated woman who hates men will also use her daughter to financially exploit men to exact revenge on the male gender.
31. She has a problem trusting you, even if you have proven yourself over and over again to her. She has emotional problems while forming attachments.
This usually happens if she’s beginning to have feelings for you, or also could be how her mother has indoctrinated her against men. Her trust issues are a projection of her revulsion for men cheating on their women who’ve paid to fuck her. She fears that you’d do the same to her with another woman. She wants to attach to you, but memories of her customers prevent her. Or her trust issues are simply a projection of her guilt or low self-esteem issues onto you. A cunning experienced prostitute will however pretend to have trust issues so that you do more for her, to simply indulge her attention whoring.
32. She’s a single mother, she comes from a broken family, she’s an orphan, she’s the eldest or only child in her family , or she’s the only one among her siblings working to support her large family and her siblings’ education.
More so if she’s not from the Anglo sphere. Highly likely as she needs money to support herself and her family. Desperate circumstances call for desperate measures (prostitution).
33. She talks highly of a particular country and has a lot of information about it without actually living there.
This is more accurate if she’s poor. Her knowledge comes from the knowledge imparted to her from her customer who’s been there, or hails from there.
34. She constantly brings up requests for things, so as to prove your ‘love’ for her.
Most of the time, these requests are aptly timed by her: after she’s provided mind-blowing sex for you and you’re lying in bed with her, or you’re feeling horny and in romantic mood wanting to plough her. At both times, you’re often at your logical weakest.
35. She despises poverty, and more so of men who have low paying jobs.
What a loser! He can’t afford me! (in her mind)
Her hatred of poverty reminds her of her own desperate circumstances at one time. Even though women are hypergamous are nature, most women don’t despise poor men as long as he is working to earn something. Prostitutes however see no ‘customer’ potential in such men.
Conclusion
Your girl may not be a prostitute by deed, but she could still be a prostitute by mind. If you aren’t married yet, these signs can help you determine if your current squeeze had a prostitute’s history, or has a prostitute’s mind, which could be expensive for you if you choose to commit to her. You can’t turn a whore into a housewife.
Read More: 24 Signs She’s A Slut
The dyes are going to froth once they see this.
What do indelible fabric pigments have to do with it?
Is this not all women?
Quote:”Is this not all women?”
Why yes it is.
Yes, indeed!
#yesallwomen
Am I doing it right?
Quite the “revelation”, innit?
If only my father had decided to have THIS talk with me.
I’ll have this talk with my son tomorrow.
You are literally the definition of the retarded bitter ex-nerd with internal self-loathing that is channeled into hating women, behaving in illogical generalization, and believing nonsense.
You do know I could release an article tomorrow about how all men are not capable of relationship (and destined to cheat) because of male biology, right?
Nothing on RotK is to be taken seriously.
Relax hon, we’re just having a bit of fun here. Go ahead and release your article all you want. We’ll be waiting and ready to comment like never before. Oh and btw, welcome to RoK.
Bless u! Thank u for standing up and ur honesty. U are few and far between
Are you trying to be a big man
You can be sure that Roosh takes it seriously, at least the clickbait.
“If only my father had decided to have THIS talk with me.”
It depends on how old you are and your father was. Because perhaps back in the day when you were in the marriage age things were not sooo bad like they are now – and things change a lot for the worse evey two years – very fast rate.
But kudos to you for being smart and clueing in your son. Many fathers either have decided to drop the ball and don’t care what happens, or maybe are too afraid to say anything fearing their frumpy, fat wives find out and refuses giving them sex, or having the police called on them for giving advice that goes against popular opinion.
Being a father today is no easy task, and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
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Thanks!
You are welcome, and God speed to you.
What makes you think the woman is fat and frumpy. Where Im from, women look way better and the men look like pregnant walruses.
#notallwhores #notallvirgins and #hashtaghashtag
Clark Ken — have fun in you egotistic fantasy land
I suspect it is a matter of degree in this case. But yea.
Some women more than others. Women are good at deception but if you’re perceptive enough you can get at the truth. There are women who have had 10 sexual partners and there are women who have had 300. The differences in their behavior are palpable.
You can usually spot the trademark “thousand cock stare” pretty easily. At least they know which end of the cock spurts.
Hahahahaha he said “the thousand cock stare”
In a Southern accent:
“When I was back in Nam….”
Wtf?
Whaaaaat?
Bahahahaha!
Ok then
I can remember when a woman with a cock count of 10 was considered a first class whore.
Now a 10 cock woman is the polar opposite of a whore?
There is no reason why a decent woman under the age of 30 has 10 cocks in her past.
I cannot imagine a single decent women ever having gone to the grave with a history of 10 or more cocks. 10 cocks and decent are simply mutually exclusive.
I overheard some young women talking. She said she had sex with about 20 different men. She was criticizing another girl who had sex with 20 men in one year.
Women vastly (and I do mean vastly) under-report their sexual experiences. They are never honest about it, not even with themselves, let alone with others. But by the 20’s, 10 sexual partners is pretty much guaranteed for the average relatively-good-looking female.
Remember that the average girl has her first sexual experience at the 12-14 year old age range now. 11 isn’t even considered that unusual anymore.
And if you’re talking about the sluts, they hit 10 during just high school alone.
The problem becomes acute when you have had sex with less women than they have had with men. A lot of guys ain’t even begun to inhabit their manhood until their mid twenties. The smart men (if they have had a dry spell or a marriage) get to have their revenge in their 30s.
You need to wake up a bit more man.
Also one must adhere to the rule of 3… A woman takes her real count and divides by 3. A man takes his real count and times it by 3.
Woman Says: I’ve been with 10 people.
Woman Truth: I’ve had 30 dicks between my legs and at least 60 dicks in my mouth.
I think you meant they hit ten cocks before the even enter high-school.
Id say the average semi-attractive non-land whal white girls has fucked 100 guys by the time she is 25.
Funny how no real girls would come and comment truthfully about THAT little tidbit huh?
Indeed. The average woman at 24 has a social intelligence a decade ahead of an average man the same age. They get to the same level around 30, just when women hit the Wall and men can increase in value.
In the past, there were social rules designed to limit the amount of cocks inside a woman, thereby preventing the alpha widow phenomena (i.e. a heart broken too many times by alphas), while giving the betas access to sex (i.e. marriage, family and civilization).
That’s true. Male SMV rises with age.
Statistics contradict this actually. This is more of an overblown myth designed to placate the ego of the middle-aged mid-life crisis males in these “communities”.
Statistics contradict this actually. This is more of an overblown myth designed to placate the ego of the middle-aged mid-life crisis males in these “communities”.
I need to wake up? What? Are you a millennial? I’ve known what you typed for 30 yrs.
No shit. WTF is with millennials and reading comprehension.
Like I said no decent woman has ten cocks before she is 30. Actual cocks fucked or sucked.
End of story. The end.
You guys act like court house janitors that think they are lawyers.
Yep. Disgusting.
What? Ur mentally ill
It makes me so sad to think u and all men on this sight feel the way u do about women. I have never ever heard the opposite. In ur statements replace the word women with men.
so much for honesty in a relationship, which is more important than all of this nonsense
I love the alpha widow term. Too bad I still like my alpha — but I keep my distance. Can’t really take some attitudes too seriously. Live and let die.
I’m a guy, and I’m a tad more respectful. I think virginity goes both ways, although the majority of this site probably disagrees with me.
However, I still feel I can learn some things from this site, as long as I keep a clear head and am free to question and am open to criticism.
Because she loves pleasure and men and cannot contain herself.
Or would men rather have a man hating virgin???
Sounds like a couple men I knew haha
Eeeewww
Who puts things in their mouths?
Men urinate with them things lol
Why are women commenting here? Get out…
Get ouuuuut
Hahahaha
Amityville Horror haha
Hahahaha
Anything over 4-5 is too much for a steady relationship.
The problem is how will you know if its ‘really’ 4 or 5? Women are experts at downplaying their numbers. That’s why you must continue to test women all the time, while still always retaining some skepticism about non-virgins.
agreed
I’m afraid most “alphas”, PUA’s, cocksmen, and notch collectors just notch up the same tired old whores.
Women who are not whores marry young and have families. The vast, vast majority of these women in the west are religious and come from families with semi arranged marriage so they are not as likely to fall victim to “alpha” bad boy game.
If I were a younger man and craved a wife and children I would become very active in a large church and constantly test the women I met there to expose the sluts that go to church.
This is by no means a NAWALT comment.
Shame on u for demeaning women. Sluts that go to church? Ur a judgemental asshole and I doubt u will ever find a good woman because u are not a good man. Own it and stop blaming women.
lie detector test. best way. If you can’t do that, ask one of her friends that hates her or is jealous of her. They’ll tell you a closer number to the truth.
Women are either virgins or whores. Guys can hamster the “gray zone” all they want, but once a woman begins to compare all the different cocks she’s had, she changes.
The only possible exception, is women who lose their virginity, most likely in high school, simply out of social pressure. The West is so f’d up by now, that being a virgin carries as much of a stigma for girls as for guys. It still seems to me that in addition to the purely physical act, the change from innocence to whoredom is often related to the act of “giving herself” to a man. Which is something it seems not all high school ritualistic sex involves.
This unfortunately is very true…the ‘stranger in the bedroom’ phenomenon. I remember feeling ostracized by my girl friends when I was sixteen because I was a virgin and didn’t have any experience with my boyfriend beyond kissing (raised very religious LDS). But the joke was on them when I married my husband (also a virgin) in my early twenties and didn’t have to deal with jealousy, or comparisons. We learned together and became so much closer. People think sexual experience with a bunch of partners is liberating and a necessary education…but I think those people would save themselves alot of heartache and callousness if they chose not to sleep around. Do you know why people fear marriage and being stuck to only one partner? After sampling a variety of subpar goods, sometimes the thought of being confined to one superior product seems stifling. But commitment has rewards that the uncommitted will never know.
Are you really a womyn?
You know what? I think there more of a stigma on men being virgins. I am a woman. I’m even a feminist, but women are actually complimented on being virgins. You see, I’m actually 17. And if I told someone I’m a virgin (which I am), they would either not care or say that’s good. But if a 17 teen year old boy said he’s a virgin, people might assume that he just can’t get girls. However, teenage girls are often pressured into sex by teenage boys, but not by society.
And just to clarify, I don’t think that a 17 year old(male or female)being a virgin is good or bad, as long as it’s not with a legal adult. Live and let live.
If they really were subpar, one would find the first “superior” product and stick with it, naturally. But that’s not the way the ball rolls, is it?
To use your poor analogy, the actual “superior” product BECOMES subpar because of lack of proper maintenance. We go stir crazy without sexual variety. You are less of a person monogamous, and continue to deteriorate over the years the longer you spit in Nature’s face.
I feel bad for your husband. He’s gonna want to try new pussy sooner or later, I guarantee it.
God bless you and your husband
I agree 100% with you. I wish I would have had the opportunity to know a woman like that. Now it’s too late.
There are no guarantees in life beyond death and taxes. Two virgins marrying young improves your odds but won’t stand alone in the face of serious negatives.
Porn addict? If he tries perverted shit on you, he most likely learned it from porn.
Heavily in debt? Gambler. Paying out ridiculous sums for a degree is a gamble. Especially when you can, by carefully shopping around a LOT, you can get a college education from a perfectly good school for free or nearly so. Spend time and labor now on finding cheap or free education or bust ass for years to come making the payments.
Spends more than a buck a week on lottery tickets.
I knew a couple who met in Baptist Bible college, both virgins, married over 50 years. He’s been in prison for sex offense for over 10 years. His family won’t talk to me.
To lessen the likelihood of divorce, adultery, other sex-related troubles, please, please don’t cut him off. Take care of yourself. Don’t turn into a fat sow who wears pincurlers in her hair and stinks of hair shit.
Not if she takes good care of hers. Exercise the thing. Kegels. Always available when not menstruating or just gave birth. Never deny pussy to get something from him, be it material or behavior. Giving pussy as a reward or to get something out of him makes you a whore. The only thing to trade pussy for is dick.
lol the butthurt is strong.
Another slut acting like a virgin!
Being a virgin doesn’t mean that your not an attention whore…
Explains why she’s perusing the ROK website. Looking for some of that Alpha cock.
Building a fantasy that only girls who fall in love lose the ability to later? While the girls who fuck for fun remain capable of love? LOL
> I think there more of a stigma on men being virgins
This is common knowledge. Wizardchan FTW.
Kegels for men is a must!
And what people do with their sexuality and their lives is their business.
Nooone has the right to tell them otherwise.
Doesn’t effect me.
Fuck away lol
I love roll playing! 😀
Stigma?!
How can that be?
I love virgin men
No one cares 😀
Well aren’t you a happy individual hahahaha
I’m happier than whores who are only good to open their legs for sure.
Oh here we go
Feeding into the ol men trying to control women game.
You really are a bitter and blind person.
Awww
https://m.mic.com/articles/109852/6-reasons-sluttiness-has-nothing-to-do-with-sex#.abMBY8KUX
I bet your a slut since your defending them lol
Stupid feminist article to defend being a slut, just like you are!
No such thing as a slut.
Just a word men use to try,and I stress try,to control women😊
You poor insecure boy.
Angry because you can’t get laid when you want.
A misogynistic woman hater.
Poor scarred up wiener hahahaha
FYI I get laid whenever I want but not gonna waste my time by marrying sluts 🙂
A slut calling other people sluts.
You just made a fool of yourself.
Having sex outside of marriage you hypocritical slut lol
Why do you even worry so much about other people’s sex lives???
You don’t get laid when you want to because it is not the mans decision in the first place lmfao
Man can’t be a slut & I never said that sex should be done after marriage. How it’s not man’s decision? If i want to get laid I get it anytime I want cause it’s not that hard with all the sluts there is in nightclubs or other places. Also there is hookers which are better than sluts like you, at least they get something out of it and are more experienced.
Ahhhh
You are not only a slut,but you are stupid as well! Hahahaha
Remember,it takes two to tango and every woman or man is as low as the person they lay with.
And no,you cannot get sex when you want,even though we are pretty positive that the fat ugly women will take it.
No beautiful women will! Haha
And hey,if I was in Las Vegas or New York,the dream of getting paid and laid,fuck yeah!
Them escorts have wish lists on their profiles.
Oh yeah!
Your the stupid one who is making a fool out of herself if you believe that it’s the women choice who to sleep with, IMHO it is a decision of both sides, not just of the girls and if the girl is fat or ugly i don’t want anything to do with her so that’s my choice…
The escorts you mentioned aren’t only in Vegas but all of the world. There’s no much real women nowadays since the world is full of sluts who open their legs for free or a few drinks so I respect escorts more, at least they get rich if they save some money.
Now you don’t need to lie.
Did I hit a nerve?
One does not need to open their legs to have sex.
What exactly is your version of a reeeeeal woman?
You’ve been run through the ringer by one or a few real women,that’s for sure! Lol
You are so bitter.
And so shallow.
Just cause a person is fat you don’t want anything to do with them.
No wonder you can’t get laid. Beggars can’t be choosers.
I don’t need to lie about getting laid to anyone since a slut opinion is irrelevant for me. Real women are those who don’t open her legs for every man that comes to her.
Bitter and shallow? I think your the one who’s like that since you know that man only use your body for one thing and dump your fat ass asap.
Ohhh yeah ya do haha
You will screw anyone that wants to fuck you,cause that’s all you can get.
I’ve never been dumped lol and I’m still friends with my ex’s. And for being used,that’s a mutual thing since they would be used as well. I do wonder why you hate pleasure givers so much. What they’re doing is a good thing. Don’t you want to feel pleasure???
You’re so weird.
You hate people who give pleasure but I bet you just love people who give out pain. Hating people who actually hurt other people would be appropriate.
So technically you’re are crazy.
I wouldn’t screw anyone stupid like you for sure. Everyone like to receive pleasure but I would never think of having commitment with any slut, that’s disgusting so i rather do a one night stand. Like i said a whore is better since she get money out of it unlike sluts who only get pleasure for a few minutes lol.
But you are a slut
And pleasure is pleasure,whether one minute or fifteen.
It is great.
Are you angry because you can only get fat chicks?
Man can’t be sluts, only women can be… Also I have said that i would never date fat women since i’m not the kind of man who will date anything that walks, just like you. In the future you will regret being like that since no man wants a wife who is a bitch. Goodbye!
Like you have keep proving,you are stupid.
You are an angry stupid slut. Lol
Hahahaha
Your come backs are awful lol
And your a retarded bitch lol
Nnnnooo,that would be you haha
In your dreams…
Eeww.
No.
No man dreams about marrying a stupid slut who open her legs for everyone.
You keep typing opening legs hahahaha
One does not need to open their legs to have sex. Just like when you open your asshole but you must squeeze your legs together so that loose butt hole of yours tightens a bit
Bahahahaha!
You obviously do not know what men want,for no man is the same.
I’m going to call you Twink.
I’m not gay although there’s nothing wrong with them or your one of those homophobics who hate LGBT people? I don’t know what all man want but what i’m sure of is that sluts like you are only good for one thing & no one should marry them.
That’s funny because I have gay friends.
What you have basically been saying is that in a nutshell,men don’t want women who love sex,which in turn means no sex for the man lol
Without sex,you would be using your hand. You sure are screwed up bitching and moaning about women who love and give pleasure which is by no means a bad thing that you try in vain to make it out to be. A sane man or person would be happier to receive,more gracious and grateful. But you are one screwed up Twink slut. That’s for sure.
You act like there are rules to sex. Such a natural thing,you try to twist. You are lost. Embrace the good things. Don’t be so negative and stupid.
I’m not negative about sex actually I do have FWB or one night stands but i’m not willing to have a relationship with the kind of women who sleep with everyone. Why would I want any slut to be my girlfriend or wife? That’s insane.
Also man aren’t seen as sluts, only women who sleep around are!
Like I said,you’re a slut.
A dumb slut.
You cannot expect to get a woman who does not sleep around if you yourself sleep around.
No decent woman wants a used up dirty and stupid slutty Twink for a stable relationship.
Just cause your guts are hangin’ on the outside of your body does not mean you cannot be a slut.
A slut is a slut,man or woman.
Why you got to be so dumb?
Slut. Heh heh
Like i have said in another comment your too stupid since even if i’m a slut, you can’t call another person a slut if your sluttier yourself. I expect what I want… If I want a good girl for a relationship and slut for sex well, that’s my opinion and my business!
Hahahaha
Mmm k
You can try to explain everything away if it makes you feel better
How explaining it make me feel better? Actually I don’t care what stupid sluts think about me since sluts like you are only good to get fucked and dumped hahahaha.
But you are the stupid slut who gets dumped.
And this is why you are so angry. Hahahaha
Angry about what? Sluts like you are the ones who get angry when a guy use them for sex and dump their ass like they deserve. I never had a girl dump me because i’m not stupid and will not give them any chance for a relationship, only FWB or hook up. Sluts like you will never get any chance for a relationship with me, I only want a good girl for that hahahaha.
Lying is so natural for you.
Isn’t it?
Only weirdos dump people who give them pleasure. Lol
I suppose you think people who deal pain should stick around.
Yikes
You are delusional and angry. Yikes
And a person does not deserve to get dumped for making another person feel pleasure. That’s just weird,but then you’re weird haha
I was married for 11 1/2 years and I dumped my ex husband for another man.
There is no chance for you to get a good girl if you think the way you do now.
Not a chance. Bahahahaha
You poor boy
I never said a person deserve to be dumped for giving pleasure, how dumb you can be lol. I don’t have a chance for good girls? No problem, I will continue bang sluts for my pleasure and never call them again hahahaha. You dumped you husband for another man? wow, that show what a fuckin bitch you are and that your husband should have dumped your ass instead of wasting over 11 years with a low quality slut like you. I bet that you are a cheater and a liar as well hahahaha
Slut(pleasure giver).
So don’t get butt hurt when people call you a slut.
So you’re a slut who gets fucked by other sluts.
So what?
Me being a bitch has absolutely nothing to do with me leaving my husband.
Though my husband still loves me,I just did not love him anymore.
You’re not very smart.
You sound like a complete idiot.
You are so clueless.
You and your little Twink wiener bahahahaha
The Angry Twink Slut.
Talk about low quality 😂
Yikes
You have to be a stupid bitch to stop loving someone after 11 years. Sluts like you they don’t care about love since they always end up cheat to get sex with new guys and for me, cheaters are the scum of the world.
There’s a difference between being a pleasure giver with a few people than being everyone’s public toilet
Your so stupid you can’t even think of the right word. Lol
Oh meh gawd
I can’t stop laughing!
You are such an angry Twink?
Were you raped?
Were you dumped or badly mistreated?
What’s your deal?
I was in love with the man I left my husband for.
We were very compatible,more than just love.
Love is not a toilet you dork.
You are too hateful to ever connect with anyone,well,except with ISIS. Lol!
Your suppose to stay in love with your husband not dumping him for some other dick you slut. Your the one who should go to ISIS so they get rid of your stupid ass. Love is not a toilet, i never said that but being a cheater and open your legs for everyone makes you worse than a toilet, even a garbage can seems better than you.
Suppose to?
Lol
You crack me up!
Life and love do not have rules.
People fall out of love all of the time.
It’s just life.
I never left my husband for “another dick”.
I left him because I fell in love with another man.
Why does this fact upset you so much?
And again,one does not need to open their legs to have sex.
Just because you open your butt hole open to big bears doesn’t mean everyone else does you fool. 😂😂😂
Oh here we go
Now you got to bring up ISIS now
You are a raving lunatic.
Go join the ISIS.
Fuckin woman hater.
Lol
Angry raving woman hater.
I never mentioned ISIS you stupid whore LOL and your the one who should join them to be their sex slave where you deserve to be
Yes,you did.
Look above idiot.
It’s so funny when you get mad! Bahahahaha!
I bet you feel so stupid now,huh?
Sex slave would be great,but not to ugly psychopathic rejects like you who hate women because you are jealous of them.
The only stupid, mad, crazy whore here is you. If you scroll above you’ll know who started to talk about ISIS (YOU) which got nothing to do with sluts who are good for nothing except maybe for sex. Just to let you know i’m tired of using sluts for sex and dumping them since I don’t want used up damaged idiots (Again, like you) as a relationship. Anyway this is the last time i replied to you since your good for nothing except at being a piece of shit slut so go kill yourself STD RIDDEN WHORE.
Nope. Just you. Still raving as always.
The only one who has been dumped is you.
Hahahaha
Let me assure you , no decent, self-respecting, high quality women would want any kind of relationship (be it romantic or just friendship) with a whore like you.. live your degenerate STD filled body with other STDed individuals… Scum of the earth. A huge whore looking down on other whores…I’m about to vomit now…
Stop talking about yourself slut!
No faggot, it’s you who is a sluty whore, sleeping around with anyone/anything that comes along, like the nasty vermin you are; while, in your sick mind, thinking you deserve to be with a “good girl”. You have no clue how disgusting you are to real good humans. In fact, you are not even a human, but a rotten shell devoid of any, and all, morals, conscientiousness, self-respect, ethical principles, and entirely filled with germs, nastiness, and all kind of diseases, mental and otherwise. Just kill yourself, and save the good world from your parasites, perversity, and depravity.
Fuck off you crazy feminist bitch. I got standards unlike bitches like you who think they deserve a good guy after they get fucked by hundreds of dicks. If that’ self respect than your the one who should kill yourself, that way we get rid of assholes like you who are nothing but stupid whores who are angry at the world for everything. Choke on a dick bitch!
No no fag, stop projecting your immorality and inadequacy onto others ..You’re pulling all these false assumptions out of your ulcerated ass hole, showing how disoriented, and degenerate you are.
Show me where did I say I sleep around like you skank, and prove that I’m overweight, you lunatic illogical zombie.
However, per your own words, in all your posts, and comments, you proved that you wear you whoredom, pederasty, and depravity as a badge of honor, and you assume that “good girls” will be impressed by your filth, and want to be with you.
I did you a favor, and told you the hard truth; the fact of the matter is good people don’t even consider you a person, but a walking talking diseased genitalia. And I advised you to stay with your own species, the sluty HIVed, STDed leeches…don’t even think about infiltrating human kind.
What standards can a lewd, decadent parasite have?! I ask myself in disgust.
About being a feminist, I never identified myself as a feminist, nor paid attention to what feminism is exactly about. But if Feminism entails having an utter loathing and contempt for whores, fags, active/ latent pedophiles, sexual predators, and criminals, then consider me a staunch feminist.
Now, why are you still breathing? I told you what you must do… you’re polluting our air
I’m not projecting anything i’m just say what you are… a stupid whore who talk out of her ass. Who told you i want good girls? I’ve never said anything like that and most girls are just like you… whores. Yes i’m still breathing and always will be cause i have no STD’s unlike most hoes. Now go choke on some black dick and do us a favor, just don’t bring any bastard children in this world. They would be ashamed of having a mother who is a bitch just like you hahahaha.
Debauchery and sin is the new virtue, if you think things are fucked up now wait a few years, it will but comorrah to shame.
Hanna the very big SLUT ever ! shut your dirty pussy up. Piece of shit you are.
You like to mock males, just because you know you can go at any bar and find a dick to place in your slut pussy ? but what other power you’ve got, different from any other chick or animal females ? Maybe your “brain” ! lol.
You like to dislike men, but please just let’s remember together the last male who was destroying your ass- anal. With your slut face haha. And when a MAN sperm was in your mouth. Slut.
You argue too much to be a good woman.
You are shit.
a man who fuck a lot is always clean, as long as he don’t make it with dirty whores. But chicks who are serial fuckers turn dirty with time. People sense it and despise them, even if they show a “leftist tolerant” screen.
DIANE your mouth is a butt. You smell. Slut you are.
F U
Bahahahaha
Big cry baby
Animal females?
Hahahaha
I don’t put semen snot in my mouth you dirty little perv.
Anal sex? You mean butt sex?
Gross. You’re twisted.
Being a good woman has nothing to do with arguing you dork.
If a man who fucks a lot was so clean,they wouldn’t have began the AIDS epidemic. Duh lol
You poor oppressed American,I feel sorry for you,seeing sex as something taboo,bad or dirty.
People despise people in general.
The beauty of it is is that one should not even care what other people think since it will not affect their life.
So go suck another dick hahaha
Hanna, you shit.
You want to play the liberated and “so” strong “fucking” woman. No problem. Each and every time you will have some fuck, it will be a man who’s fucking you. You’ll never be able to fuck a man. A MAN will always fuck you, right through your “liberation”. Piece of shit you are.
Feminist full of shit. You deserve misery and shit.
Hey, quit telling me what to do with my kegels.
Bahahahaha
I do the fucking.
I’m on top.
Hahahaha
You are so butt hurt right now!
Hissssss
You are a non sens, dirty slut you are.
Go show your dirty asshole in your facebook, stupid feminist face.
You speak shit. You are a smelly slut, shit you are.
Go show to the world how you are great, great dirty slut.
😂Bahahahaha
Your English is simply awful.
Either that or you’re drunk or stupid. Type when you learn proper English you turd.
I’m french. You mfbitch. I’m not sure you can speak french as I speak english, so F.U. I love my fucking english just as it is, and anyway you don’t deserve a good language. A bitch deserves shit. You quit your ex husband, not because “you love another man” (your heart is full of shit and snakes). No, you divorced because you turned him into a “nice dude”, and he did the mistake to show how nice he can be for you, but then as soon as he “pleased” you giving nice behaviours whatever shitty your behaviour was then you despised it and you start walking outside with a warm smelly pussy seeking a badass. This stupid “ex” should have shit on your face and treat you like a farm animal. So you couldn’t enjoy a nice guy you asked him to become for you, a bitch can’t stand living with goodness. So you took your smelly ass and try to sell it to a tougher caracter with more money. But you are a bitch in mental disease, you are trying to poison him, and if he don’t treat you like an farm animal you won’t find any attraction. YOU BITCH mtfucking Hillary feminist shit.
You are a very angry turd with horrible English.
Keep making up the stories that make you feel better inside.
Keep on a guessin’ twink😂
I’ll just call you butt hurt.
Ok, you start to be submissive around me. It’s ok bitch. Shut the fuck up now. If you are wise I’ll give you a dog or a nigga to fuck you.
Your come backs are so corny.
Shut the fuck up?
I’m typing you cunt lol
For the love of humanity,please stop typing. Your English sucks.
Cry baby
You wasted too much time ranting.
Wait til you’re not so angry before you try typing away.
lick my foot while you look at me with your stupid slut eyes.
Shut up, you bitch
You are so creepy
Eww
I suggest everybody upvote the above comment to call negative attention to it.
About 80% of your comments are ad hominem name-calling and generally trolling. I suggest everybody upvote your comments to call attention to you so that the moderator notices your actions. I think your comments are by definition trolling.
From the guidelines for commenting:
Rule #1
1. Don’t talk down to writers, staff, or other commenters. Don’t call someone an idiot, moron, or hater. Don’t use condescending language such as “WTF are you talking about?” Don’t use textspeak. Don’t flood the comments with low value posts or troll others for reactions. Don’t post someone’s personal information. Defer to senior commenters. Treat the comments section as if it was a polite men’s club.
It looks like you are violating both the spirit and the letter of the law.
Please, just leave and go to some website that shares your views, whatever they are. Your views are not really welcome here. Read all you want of course, perhaps you may learn something new. Your trolling is about as welcome as somebody like Pussy Riot getting up at a solemn mass and staging a “punk prayer.” Please go troll elsewhere.
Interesting thing I noticed, even though the face in this woman’s profile picture is comprised of about 20 pixels you can still tell that she’s old as fuck. The brain is a truly remarkable thing.
Type whatever makes you feel better buddy lol
Corny
I’m not wrong though eh? ; )
Yeah,you are.
But you can’t tell anyone that they are cause they’re dead set on the idea and want so badly to be right.
It’s ok to admit you’re wrong ya know. No biggie.
The more number of cocks a woman has had, the lesser probability a single cock will hypnotize or satiate her.
Huh? U have no clue
It only means you have to want to please her. Everything is supposed to be easy
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27 people disagree with you Tracy, go learn how to please a man.
Hypnotize,like a skinned serpent/circumcision lol
It’s just a dick lol
Nice116g
You’ve kind of proved their point with this comment. If you only saw one cock in your entire life it wouldn’t be just a dick, it would be your dick. But you’ve clearly seen so many that it’s just an unimportant normal thing. No big deal.
Yeah,dicks are everywhere.
You seen one,you’ve seen em all.
Hahahaha
Ur comment obviously implies your insecurity.
Corrections : all females are either. No women are virgins. Some preteens might be.
If only this were true huh? Lol
You would have better luck finding a unicorn then a virgin women. In fact a real virgin woman would be like the 13th wonder of the world. No wonder people are so obsessed with Virgin Mary, she was probably the only real virgin in existence.
My sentiments exactly.
Also, in a world of remakes, only one man stands alone.
Big hopes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJnPg2_Y_UI
In this trailer he’s either running like a bitch, or tied up like a bitch for all but 3 shots. Is this the new action hero?
Considering Tom Hardy isn’t the raging alcoholic, anti-semitic woman-beater Mel Gibson is, it may not fly. We’ll see.
WTF do care about Mel Gibson? Very beta comment IMO.
Lets see according to you he likes to drink, refuses to be a good goy, and doesn’t take shit from gold diggers………and this is supposed to make me NOT like him?
Mel Gibson is fucking crazy and that comes across in his roles which required fucking crazy, like Mad Max. I love the guy. I wish i had beaten my Russian ex-wife regularly. Ha ha!
“I wish i had beaten my Russian ex-wife regularly.”
Lol, that’s Mad Max enough
“I wish I had beaten my Russian ex-wife regularly.”
Did she pass away? If not, what’s stopping you?
Like!
I remember watching the original Mad-Max at the drive-in, tripping on acid and slamming a case of miller ponies.
Oh wow I bet that makes u feel like a real dude.
And the idiots wants a good girl. Lmao. Let him stick to his acid.
😉
He looks more like a Bane with hair.
The facial mask looks fine.
Yep, the author forgot #36.: “She is a female.”
Could have dispensed with the other 35, save time.
Besides, who cares if she is a “whore” anyway. I prefer sluts, no need for all that “romance” crap. A chick who is DTF is all a man needs. Marriage? ha ha ha ha ha ha a comedian
I agree. If she is a whore, and free and an 8 and up?
Why give a fuck?!
But then again, this article is for those who believe in the Beta-losophy (Beta Philosophy).
I think the article is to warn men who still believe in marriage, or those who look for ‘serious relationships’.
If marriage and relationships are Beta-losophy in today’s times, then what is Alphadom? MGTOW?
The real truth is that in today’s world, any woman who is not a virgin is a whore. Not because she may not be even.
It’s because in today’s times, it’s stupid to trust a non-virgin woman. So that’s why men don’t value marriage and relationships any more.
Whores are not ‘free’. They are p4p..
Sluts are the ones who are ‘free’…but they can act as ‘whores’ to thirsty betas…
And it’s ok for a man to not be a virgin? I married my first. The world today is screwed up. Men degrade women and need to start appreciating women for who we are. Judge mental people are weak and lazy and not confident. I would not be surprised that the person writing this message is more of a man whore than any woman could ever be. Grow up and get real dude.
Some men never valued relationships and never will. Women’s lib started because they taught us in college not to have children unless you could support them because men were leaving and getting younger women. Any woman can be faithful to a man she loves who is faithful to her
I think women and men in general need more respect for each other, and I mean REAL respect, not the one-sided crap people thrive on nowadays.
Bull
There is no respect. There are women here who are giving honest replies and they are not whores, only to have them attacked by bitter idiots. If these men had something good in front of them, they wouldnt even realize it or take it for granted. In fact, that is why they are bitter and theyre here to complain. Blind fools.
Virginity has absolutely nothing to do with trust.
You poor,poor lost and confused male.
Just whore.
Not man whore.
That saying is retarded. Lol
It’s like saying woman who’re but lol
It’s for guys who want kids. And who aren’t gullible enough to think someone else is going to take care of them when they get old, just because he said so on TV, and used that as an excuse to take half your salary.
Nah mane, all u need to do is knock up hoes and let gub’ment welfare raise da chillens. Chillen support? Nah mane, don’t even bother wit a job! Move in wit da horniest baby mama and dont report it.
Ur looking in the wrong places dude. Makes me sad for ur babies.
I can’t possibly find the strength to reply to ur obsurdity. U are the reason a good woman is lost.
There’s no good women hahahaha
Please go learn your abc’s. You have it all backwards.
Huh?
sheeeeit dis mofo right here right on mah brotha
Getting a job is for Uncle Toms
Then perhaps u should call urself a man whore. How lonely Ur selfish life will be in ur future.
No. Not at all. What makes you think so?
Excellent thought!
almost
yaup… though they WILL deny it and try an come up with lazy assed lame brain emotional drivel excuses – like they always do – talking the parasite losers whoers and since all have the capability when they don;t get what they WANT… so NAWALT DOES NOT RING TRUE… just lost parasites and it’s not a man’s job to raise his family AND his wife…
“Is this not all women?”
Shit yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking.
NO such thing as a woman with virtue today.
This is why it is annoying to listen to guys at the ROK forum who were extremely, and I mean EXTREMELY lucky find a good woman and get married than turn around and say “I did it and so can you” which is another way of saying “I won the lottery and so can you!”
At best today we have ‘hookup culture’ where you will be ‘lucky’ if you can find a female who is remotely attractive, will not throw a false rape accusation at you, and hopefully you will not contract an incurable, deadly STD from the cum bucket.
Did I mention that there is NO such thing as a woman with virtue today?
Exactly man.. That why I don’t like when autors say that there are “unicorns” out there.
Every guy in the comment section says that he found his unicorn then. Bullshit…
Also guys who think asian and EE girls are completely different compared to western girls. These girls are maybe 10% better, but by far not marriage material. There are no girls that are worth a LTR.
Marriage? Every guy who is on this site and still believes marriage is a good choice should jump off a cliff.
They exist.
People who try to find them at bars and nightclubs though? Dumber than rocks.
Well thats their life. How can these people whose way of life is clubbing and partying, do something else? Like go to church. Oh, they dont care for church or enjoy it, but they want to reap the benefits of a good Godly woman. It doesnt work that way. A manwhore cannot enter heaven.
Just whore.
No man whore.
As dumb as typing woman whore lol
And Christianity is so hypocritical.
Making something so beautiful am done natural and healthy into something dirty and awful.
The new I guess you’re shit out of luck bud.
Why didn’t you just stick to your fleshlight???
Baby, thanks for sending me your selfie omg gurl ur like….so hawt!!!!!
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That sucks. Maybe you could move? To a better place?
Arent you not human?
I love the smell of triggered incels in the morning
Alert! Alert!
A baby MGTOW is viciously oppressed by his 3-year old feminist sister,
with her feminazi mom’s approval. This is what I’m talking about. The
indoctrination starts young in western society. To think that this video
is going viral, with millions of people calling it “cute” is just appalling.
The baby MGTOW wishes only to grow up to be a free, independent human.
But the feminazis of the world, including harpies within his own family,
operate on all levels to keep him oppressed. They have isolated him in
an socially-sanctioned psychological prison. Even the expression on his
face is similar to that of Braveheart in that movie character’s final
moment – crying out for freedom in a most un-free world!
Help save the baby MGTOW! Spread this campaign far and wide!
wut
The decline! The decline is here! Grab your tinfoil hats and meet me in my mom’s basement. We’ll be safe there. I have all of Roosh’s most recent publications and some lotion, we won’t ever have to leave!
Are you being serious?
No!
Hahahahahaha!
He/she is a troll, attempting to parody/ridicule the manosphere. Trolls operate by holding out bait and waiting for someone to take it. Fortunately not a lot of people here have, which is nice to see.
Don’t feed the trolls.
You do know that the Nazis shoved the females back in the kitchen pumping out kinder right? About as far from feminist as it gets. Feminazi is pure Limbaugh Shabbos-GOP bullshit.
I dated a stripper for half a year. Great sex!
However, I didn’t want to have a relationship with her and she got really upset. Half a year later from our break-up, I heard she was a prostitute…
This is a solid article by a man who really has experience of women!
Why would u date a stripper? Or was she just a FWB? I used to fantasize about strippers when I was a teenager but after having met a few I can say they are without a doubt some of the most unattractive beings on the planet – crazy, drugged out, abortions, and almost always selling sex on the side (and typically not safe sex – hope u wrapped up). That being said, these were just “average” strippers – never met any of the 9s doing it.
Dated two strippers and yes, they both had ‘problems’ – usually something that comes from growing up in dysfunctional home or other.
They were usually very bad at picking a bf (mental or physical abuse) and they would stay with them (or go back to them). Very twisted individuals…stay away to keep your life drama free.
I have an idiot friend that married a stripper. He even had a kid with her despite my best efforts to prevent this from happening. Now his life is predictably messed up and he is taking a different job to help pay for the divorce.
She wanted your money
Woman are whores by nature. I think that’s why they hate on prostitutes. They envy them
Prostitution is something every woman thinks about; the women that are “against” it simply feel they can have a better life landing one big fish rather than many smaller fish. They either have a certain level of beauty or are born into a certain level of wealth or some combination of the two. It is just their sexual strategy. They have what is called GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) and they don’t want any competition from women that have a more realistic sense of the value of their pussy. If their life circumstances were to change they would be selling it without shame.
Quote:”They have what is called GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) and they don’t want any competition from women that have a more realistic sense of the value of their pussy.”
Exactly.
Well, they don’t call it a “pussy cartel” for nothing.
All these new names are killing me!
Hahahaha!
Yeah, but come on… It’s not OK if they’re whores, and it’s not OK if they’re not either?
I mean, at least GPS is girlfriend material (with all the precautions & disclaimers).
I didn’t express a preference either way. It’s kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. I certainly wouldn’t recommend getting a GPS girlfriend – she will upgrade at the first opportunity. And I wouldn’t recommend having a whore girlfriend – she will never be sexually monogamous.
If you are going to have a “relationship” then a truly religious woman is the only way to go (she should be a virgin as well). This is quite a commitment though – you have to wait until marriage for sex and you can’t cheat on her.
For the other 99% of women in this country (The GPS girls and the Whores) I would recommend “dating” them. This means having sex with no commitment on your part and getting with as many as you can – don’t stay with one longer than a few bangs.
I know this sounds harsh but our country has no rules on sexuality; as a result it is brutal out there and a man can’t give an inch or a mile will be taken. Women are allowed and often encouraged to screw men over; these are the new rules men have to adjust to.
“I know this sounds harsh but our country has no rules on sexuality; as a
result it is brutal out there and a man can’t give an inch or a mile
will be taken.”
^^^THIS. True to the core.
A religious woman wouldnt marry you.
I live in a country where “virginity” is valued alot by men looking for marriage, most girls here are “virgins” if you look at their vaginas, yet most took loads of big phat cocks into their rear end (anal) and loads of white cream into their mouths. Not to mention hymen restitution surgery for those who led the dicks into their vaginal orifice.
“muh virginity” is a lost cause, deal with it. you’ll never know how many cocks a girl has had just by looking at her vagina.
Again, a truly God fearing woman, wouldn’t marry anyone here. She would be looking for someone like herself. If its only a cultural thing, then you have what you described.
Oh! America has way too many rules. And fucked up ass backwards ones too.
So repressed in the wrong areas
The ol hymen Myth lol
It is just a ring of skin which keeps feces out when we are in our diapers.
And semen is not cream.
It is mucus.
LOL The GPS automatically spots men with money in the area and gives instructions that show the most direct route to the wallet..
Shouldn’t it be Golden Cock Syndrome aka Hypergamy?
Riding the cock carousel in search for the best one but never satisfied?
They “are” satisfied and that is why they are so compelled and driven by instinct to mate.
A dick is a dick.
Some just feel better than others.
Circumcision plays a big difference too.
Men are literally missing an important key part to their things
Golden info in this post.
What world do u live in? Shame on u perfect man ass whipe
ll women know their pussy is a valuable asset, and the hot/smart ones will only give it to the highest bidder.
They hate prostitutes not because moral issues (women are not moral beings by nature), but because they instinctively know that prostitutes lower the value of pussy in the market.
Essentially, fellas, is up-play yourself as much as possible.
Not really. Smart women know that 99% of men will NEVER EVER EVER invest in a prostitute so the market for pussy is actually a diversified one. Prostitutes and girlfriends are different products selling to different markets to put it crudely. Having a hold over a man through sex is temporary and transitionary and only stupid women use this strategy. Having a hold over a man throught his children is a strategy smart women use.
Guest is right. Sex leads to children which the women can use to hook and ensnare a man especially if it is backed by the power of the culture, ruling elite and government. Many women changing their minds and not honorably following through on what they promised or outright and knowingly lying is another key componet here. Indoctrination and propoganda finish the men off. Divorced wives and mothers, harpy wives and mothers and baby mommas birthing bastards are the most expensive whores a man will ever fuck and take more out the back end than high end escorts take out the front. Even good wives and mothers coupled with children are more expensive and time consuming and worrisome than whoring. Nevada brothel whores and escorts are better looking on average too. Once men know the truth about these women being abusive and that they have little chance of finding a non-abusive one, then they will walk away and either GAME(seduce) women by pumping, dumping and nexting them or will slap down their money into the prostitutes’ bank accounts by going whoring.
or both!
But who in the hell would want to be stuck in a marriage (prison) when they can never free to seek pleasure with different men?
And punishing men by keeping his children away is just sick and wrong.
If prostitution is legalized and they got proper healthcare (which they avoid fearing they would be caught by the law going to the hospital one reasons why they’re riddled with STDs and have no way of preventing it), divorce raping women and Instagram whores would lose a lot of power over men.
Cant believe you got 89 upvotes for that. No wonder America is falling apart. Men are idiots here too.
They hate on prostitutes because they can take away their power over men. Not as if whores aren’t prostitutes, they’re dishonest prostitutes that is.
I have to disagree with 18. At least as long as it exists on its own and not in combination with others.
Almost all women are whores then. As the Comedian-Actor, Chris Rock said in his stand up comedy show, Men don’t go back on sex acts they like, and WOMEN DO NOT GO BACK ON LIFE STYLE, and if you lose your job, she may not leave you right then and there, but the countdown to her leaving the jobless poor man has begun. I laughed at the truth Chris Rock stated. I am 46 years old now and I said this at latest when I was 23 years old. I also said starting at age 23 that even if she doesn’t leave you when you as a man lose your wealth (and job) then she will turn into a harpy against you, and then to find a decent woman who will not leave you under such circumstances is rare, and to find one who won’t turn into a harpy who stays with you even more rare. I’m not saying such a woman does not exist, only in all my 46 years of life, I have never found one. A man is either abandoned by the woman for not being able to provide in a manner to which she has been accostomed in the past or she turns into a harpy for a man who is not able to provide in a manner to which she has been accostomed in the past. Even if she turns herself into a prostitute for cash, prizes and advancement, and still stays with you,and is pleasant to then you as a man better be able to prove that you could easily fuck other women besides her. I’ll try to refer you the Maggie McNeill’s blog and article in a follow up post soon for reference. Here’s here blog for now. http://maggiemcneil.wordpress.com
I’m not sure why that link above did not work. Maggie McNeill, author of the same blog under wordpress and a former escort and prostitute who blogs about sex work and prostitution at http://www.maggiemcneill.wordpress,com wrote an article on 17 July 2014 about Alice Keppel. at http://www.maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/alice-keppel/ and try googling it if the links don’t work. Maggie McNeill noted in the third paragraph that Alice Keppel’s husband was no weak cuckold, because even though Alice Keppel whored heself out to rich men for money, Alice Keppel tolerated, encouraged and was happy for her husband bedding many other women. Alice Keppel’s husband encouraged her to whore herself out for money and for the both of them to have a better, more fun filled and exciting lifestyle in the big city, London, rather than live by modest means in the rural countryside which they could have chosen to do. Both were married for over 50 years dying within 2 months of each other.
The link should be to the home page of Maggie McNeill’s blog, http://www.maggiemcneill.wordpress.com I thought Rollo Tomassi’s idea at The Rational Male blog ALPHA FUX, BETA BUX when I read Maggie McNeill’s article and commentary. I also thought GAME or seduction or Red Pill or evo;utionary psychology etc.
Yeah, I thought the same thing when I read this: https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/176/
THANKYOU!!! I can not thank you enough for this article and link which you have posted by Maggie McNeill called “Modern Marriage”. Everyone should read this and the comments made below especially by Maggie McNeill. This is one of her most brilliant articles ever which I read years ago. I almost thought Vox Day, Rollo Tomassi, Heartiste or Roosh was writing it. The article is that good. Modern American women truly are married to their employers handing out pay and compensation or failing that to the government handing out welfare. Women are not married to men in any real sense in the USA, and all the marriage license is is a licensed romantic relationship of boyfriend-girlfriend that is disadvantageous to men and advantageous to women. It is why many women, feminists, the government and the ruling elite hate prostitution as the prostitutes are an escape valve for men saying no to women and marriage. She recognized that women’s sexuality is the most powerful social force in the world. Maggie McNeill states this in her article and follow up commentary posts.
There is a reason why the ruling elite hate prostitution as well as marriages which men are equal to or superior to women and why they want women to be superior to men in modern day marriages as is done in the present day USA while lying about American marriages being equal. The ruling elite like being the owner-masters of us all. They set women who on average are more obedient on average over men as manger or forman (forwoman) over men to do the dirty work of ruling over the men who are the lowest and most despised slaves because they are the most rebellious by nature on average. Women like serving their true husbands, employers and government, while feeling good about abusing someone else, human men. It is why there is more shaming of men who choose not to marry or are poor at seducing women(and therefore can not get married or father children to pay child support to the good slaves-women) or too good at seducing women (for example Roosh or Heartiste))while simultaneously not marrying or supporting them. It is also why marring foreign women has become more difficult and why there is social shaming for American men who search for women elsewhere in the world.
I coined the phrase KITCHEN BITCH PIG FUCKER for American men who get married especially if they marry American women. The problem with marrying foreign women and even living in foreign countries is your foreign wife will have access to the American legal system id she has enough money and desire to do so. It’s even worse with American women especially if you both reside in the USA. You might be a loser with the ladies, OMEGA, or you might be a winner like Roosh or Heartiste, ALPHA, but as a in between beta then you get enslaved through marriage if you are an American man. OMEGAS ESCAPE because no one wants them and ALPHAS ESCAPE because ‘they run fast’.
Brilliant analysis. Reminds me of the quote from Goethe about enslavement
“No one is more of a slave than he who thinks himself free without being so.”
What about Zetas males? The ones that see right through the bullshit immediately.
If ALL North American girls have such high expectations, then the majority of them are going to be sorely disappointed…
Not every guy can be a GQ rich model musician athlete surgeon with a chocolate dick that cums money…
It just aint gonna happen…
Amen!!! This is why so many of us say marriage is a fool’s errand for a man in the USA, Canada, Britain, Austrailia, New Zealand etc Who typically gets the home, children, alimony, child support payments plus takes at least half the wealth? In 85% or more of the American cases it is women because the culture, laws and courts hand them over to her unless she is really bad. Then who initiates at least 66% of the divorces by being the first to appear at the courthouse and fill out all the necessary paperwork for divorce in the USA? It’s the women of course. The USA has a 50% divorce rate. Women get children and child support payments even if there is no marriage and the children are bastards whether or not the men shacked up with them or not. Men have no option to get out of paying child support should the woman carry the baby to birth, but men have no say on whether women get abortions too, and only women get to decide. As Stefan Molyneux and Aaron “Captain Capitailism” would tell you, there’s no telling of the remaining 50% of marriages which stay together how happy the men( and women) are to which I agree. I know many men who are still married and are miserable and won’t leave because their situation financially, criminally(think Violence Against Women Act, VAWA) or eomotionally( i.e seeing their children go with the worse parent) would be worse then it already is. So really women’s disappointment turns into disaster for(American) men making them KITCHEN BITCH PIG FUCKERS who are more often then we like to admit abused within the marriage and then led to the slaughter less often in divorce and family courts.
Lol, a cliche rigmarol.
“Not every guy can be a GQ rich model musician athlete surgeon with a chocolate dick that cums money…”
– Lmao.
Alas…after reading this, one realises that the present state of degeneracy of the west is something which has run in the bloodlines from its ancestors. Just today’s generation does it openly, without any fear of public shame.
“But while her husband was of a good family with a long history of
service to the Crown, he had very little money; had the two of them been
content to raise their daughters quietly in the country his income
would have sufficed, but both of them loved city life. It was expensive
to keep up with London society in those days, and since Alice was
strikingly beautiful (with an hourglass figure, alabaster skin and thick
chestnut hair) the two of them soon hit upon a simple plan: she would
take on wealthy lovers whose income would finance their lifestyle and
provide George with business connections. He wasn’t her pimp, not
exactly; she found her patrons and charmed them with her own abilities.
George’s contribution was to stay out of the way and provide her with
the appearance of respectability.”
What Alice Keppel did, (whoring herself for cash to support her lifestyle) and her husband agreed, – is prostitution in its worst form.If you call her husband as ‘not weak’, for he supposedly took other ‘lovers’, – with his whore wife’s approval – their agreement to make money to support their addiction to a ‘citylife’ out of prostituting her is a form of MONETIZED SWINGING.
“Cheating “alley cats” hide their affairs from their husbands; Alice planned
hers with George. Nor was he a weak cuckold sitting alone at home
while his wife wandered; he also had many affairs, with Alice’s full
knowledge and approval.”
How can a man tolerate this? How can a man tolerate another man ravaging the holes of his woman whom he takes to be his wife with the words of God in a church? Clearly, there is no dignity, self respect or territorial instinct in such a man who could tolerate this. If money is the God who sets the guidelines for the framework of marriage, as it is seen in such marriages, then self respecting men shouldn’t marry.
“Her daughters later described their parents’ marriage as a
“companionship of love and laughter”, and though this certainly could be
taken as a biased view, it must be pointed out that the Keppels
remained happily married for 56 years and died within two months of one
another;”
Alice Keppel fell in love with King Edward while being his mistress. This is what happens. “The more number of cocks that have ravaged a woman, the lesser the possibility is that a single cock will mesmerize her”. She had children with different men. Her children say her marriage with their father was one of “love and laughter”. (Oh please! Probably they shared jokes describing the sexual abilities about her customers). What is the state of her children? Homosexuality.
” I’m sure every sex worker reading this will recognize it; they loved
and trusted each other, and sex with others had no effect on that.”
– God damn this fucking woman who writes this. This is why men don’t want to marry western women. Because they are indeed the scum of the earth.
What incentives does a man have to enter a marriage if his woman can’t maintain sexual loyalty? This is why western society is on the brink of a collapse. Because of the prevalence of adultery, the confusion of lineage is what is destroying the institution of marriage.
God will fill such women and such men in Hell. Not only because of such break His command to honor the institution of marriage, but also because they mock and corrupt the meaning of its sanctity to His Creation.
English Aristocrats traded their titles for fortunes. Primarily American heiresses. I think Churchill was the most notable product of a penniless English Aristocrat marrying an American woman with a fortune for a dowery.
Most English Aristo’s refused to marry at all unless it was for small fortune.
The Keppel’s behaviour isn’t at all at odds with this sort of mercenary use of sex, status and finances.
Henry VIII as the Alpha of Alpha’s was interested in Boleyn and other women because the women brought money too. The women wanted royal bastards and titles.
The naïveté on display right here is shocking.
Keep in mind that although Maggie McNeill is not perfect on how well she treats men that she is better than most American women. I probably could not find the articles now, but she knows that marriage is not what it used to be which was a man providing provision, protection and higher status to women and women providing sex, children and help to men; and it is only a licensed boyfriend girlfriend relationship in which men stand little to gain and much to lose nowadays.
She also stated long before she became a whore while talking to her 3 girlfriends that women should offer up sex to men more often than women are in the mood for because if they don’t men are more likely to look elsewhere for sex from other women be they mistresses or whores. Two women agreed and one disagreed. She asked the one who disagreed if she took her dog out for a walk and to defecate and urinate to which the diagreeing woman said yes. Then Maggie McNeill asked if anyone else does this for her pet dog. The woman said her father did when the weather was bad such as raining or she felt sick. Maggie McNeill accused this woman of loving her pet dog more than her boyfriend and proceeded to tell her why. Maggie McNeill believe men need sex more than women and this is why prostitution exists. She states that even homosexuals, it is mostly male whores serving male johns and that female whores serving female johns just like male whores serving female customers is almost does not exist. She states that most whores are women serving men customers for a price. She also states that the distinction between a wife and a whore is not as great as people especially men with their madonna/whore complexes would like to believe because all women are looking to get something from the man she has sex with. I agree as it is either money, status, power, GAME(Seduction) good feelings etc that a woman is seeking. The only difference to her is how the woman is paid and in what currency. She states that there is no such thing as free sex, and I agree. She states that marriage requires more payment and many different kinds of payment(money, work, status, seduction etc.) than prostitution and I agree again.
I don’t always agree with her, but Maggie McNeill has the right to call herselby her nickname, The Honest Courtesan. Even Mentu before he shut down his blog, The University of Man, stated that id he were to ever have a son that he would take him to a licensed Nevada prostitute in a licensed Nevada brothel or to the same thing in Europe or a high end escort for sex his first time because it was likely the most honest woman he would ever meet at least while she was working and on duty if not off duty and not working. I laughed and silently agreed.
Typical Anglo-Saxons.
It is the Germans who are God’s chosen, not the Anglos.
What?
http://metadave.wordpress.com/german-contributions-things-you-probably-dont-know/
I like how the first black hooker you “show” is at the end.
Have you actually seen backpages?
White knighting for white women.
News flash: Your little snowflake is just as capable of being a nasty, degenerate, hypergamous, foul-mouthed slut and whore as Laqueesha. Have you actually seen spring break?
I guess a token black is a healthy reminder to avoid the STD infested snatch of the Sheboon who gave you herpies and treatable strains of syphilis.
Hokey use of “Newsflash”. I’m willing to bet that the only way you can get a woman into the “filthy mouthed whore” mode is to actually pay her for it and to give exact instructions in what to say. You probably get off on Gestapo uniforms and have her bark German phrases like “Hande Hoche Juden! For you the war is oven.” As you re entact scenes from Ilsa Shewolf of the SS.
Slut times gold digger = whore. It’s math!
Yet America women are very quick to shame men that travel to Asia and think that American men that do so are sex tourists.
At least there – you might meet a girl that is normal and quite nice and well-rounded who might engage in it just to be able to help her family, pay her electric bill or buy presents for christmas. They might even fall in love with you.
But an American women will play their perfect roles and drain you penniless over time, in mind, spirit and finances – leaving you an empty weak shell second guessing yourself.
I have seen many men eventually end up this way. More than end up living “happily ever after” – trust me.
Dont get married. Its a suckers bet.
I have seen white men used by asian women for their money, very clearly in public. You must be idiots. White anglo men are at the top of the scale due to several historical developments leading to today. Isnt it a surprise to you that they act the part to get to you? Must be blind fools
Fuck, thia list sums me up pretty well. Not a girl tho so its kool.
Word of advice: never explain where you’re going and when you’re coming back. After a while they get used to it and dont ask.
If she has more than one tattoo, she’s a hoe for sure …
I have three tattoos. Two were designed and placed by my husband; who is the only man I’ve ever been with…
My husband is also the only man that I have ever been with. Alpha men (IMO) do it all wrong.
How the fuck would you know if you’ve only been with your schlubby-hubby, you daffy cunt?
Because I can count to one, that’s how.
I might clarify. He is the only man /I/ have been with. I know I am not the only woman he has been with. He’s not “schlubby” either, but I’m sure you’d like to think that any virgin who isn’t screwing you is getting a tub-o-lard for a partner.
Same. I will say, my husband does exhibit many alpha traits but not like these manufactured “alphas”- generally he’s generous and kind but does exactly what he wants. He’s naturally commanding and people tend to just fall in line. If you called him an alpha he’d give you a lecture on how pathetic and simplistic that type of classification is.
“called him an alpha he’d give you a lecture on how pathetic and simplistic that type of classification is.”
Using and an Ideal of ours, classifying one of us as that and (falsely?) quoting him as having negative opinion about the same ideal. Thats definitely a new shaming tactic.
BTW, its you who is simplistic if you think an Alpha is pathetic or simplistic. We dont think an Alpha is simplistic. He is a sophisticated creature. And as for
“but not like these manufactured “alphas”-”
shaming tactic again. Women like you most certainly wouldn’t wan’t men adopting such traits.
TMI lol
That is your personal business.
THIS! Nothing says “I have self esteem issues and want attention from strangers” than a bitch with a tattoo. Art? PFTTT My ass. Art goes on a wall, not your lower back.
Huh?
Or just a tattoo artist lol
Perhaps if this article had debuted a few weeks ago, you may not have needed to feature the special edition, DIY genital warts removal column. I would have thought the men of ROK would be very familiar with the nuances of a prostitute already.
Only men who game women, interact with real women, have spent time in such environments full of women of different types – know the difference between normal women and prostitutes. They’ve acquired enough experience to know what are ‘whore tells’. The more women you interact with, the more you know about them.
Keyboard jockeys who sit at home and masturbate to porn wouldn’t. Betas and virgins who fall in love and wife up the first woman they screw wouldn’t.
Is hazard a guess that virtually every black woman has at some point fucked for a pre agreed upon payment. Quid pro quo per hour. So there’s 12% of the female population.
Any methy looking woman almost certainly has.
The Czechs. Sadly mostly whores and women in either Hamburg or Amsterdam are highly suspect.
Thai females are a flashing red light. Women with no visible means of support in NYC are either sluts or directly getting paid for sex.
Attractive looking migrants in western metropolitan cities are often in the sex trade.
She’s a semi successful model or actress. She’s fucked producers in exchange for money.
If you are worried she’s cheating dump her.
The models part is 100% correct, and so is the actress part.
Models are not great. They are just attractive sperm toilets. Guys who think models are worth relationships are fools.
The attractive looking migrants (more so from EE, Africa, some latinas and Asia) whoring themselves for money are also correct, and so are single women in their 20’s who are in low paying jobs.
So, by your definition…most of the men on ROK are beta virgin manginas because they need a detailed list to educate them on these “whore tells” before they actually realize they’re dating a prostitute.
I don’t think you are understanding the depth of the problem here.
I game women… I bet the OP games women… I know through harsh experience that “love” with a woman, as it is advertised to young men most of their lives, does not really exist…
Women’s love is based on a hypergamous instinct. All women are looking for the best available man that they can purchase with their youth and vaginas. A woman’s attraction to a man can flux and flow and change depending on his perceived status within society at any given moment.
A good guy’s love for a woman is more simplistic… If she is attractive, smiles at his jokes, turns him on, gets off on his cock, there is at least some kind of personal connection… he will fall in love with her. Over time he may imagine that her love for him is similar in kind to his love for her and he will decide to trust her in the same way he would trust a man with whom he considers his closest friend.
After some period of time she may meet another man who is in some particular way on par or better than her current man. She attributes her immediate loss of attraction for her current man and newfound attraction to some other guy as that her current man has failed her in some way. He became a loser somehow. Her love for him has faded and he is nothing to her. Following this there is likely divorce, family breakup, male loss of wealth, male heartbreak, possible suicide.
I think this site serves a valuable function. For guys who’s idea of reality does not jive with their real life experiences, this provides an explanation (though very hard to accept) and we’re working on coming up with a new model of how to live a good life.
I think that is the highest ideal of this site…
I thought the main purpose of this site was to promote blogs from guys who sell ebooks for a living…
Your new life model consists of constant whining and Jew blaming.
lol that is true.
But it doesn’t necessarily make what I’ve written any less true.
I think this site and many others in the manosphere serve to disseminate information that are of concern to guys. I think a lot of guys come onto these sites kuz they’re already starting to think a certain way.
This website addresses these concerns that we’re all having. Whether this is the optimal or most healthy way to address them I can’t answer that. Guys getting together to discuss women, business, lifestyle is however nothing new… the manosphere is just guys doing that on the internet…
But yeah truthfully I’m at a loss. Should I go after marriage and the traditional love/family life that my parents had??? Knowing the way the modern culture operates??? It seems like suicide… having dated women and having been in relationships it seems like a part of life I would have absolutely no control over.. yet would have tremendous control over me. On top of that we have what seems to be a declining economic situation and much of our generation’s education may have been a waste of youth and human capital.
Valuable information is withheld from the average individual for the profits of those already in power. It leaves a young man (an individual without a vagina that has little economic value outside of what he can work to produce) with what seems to me like only a few options… (a) move, (b) tailor your education and fight for economic freedom by becoming wealthy, (c) find economic freedom by living minimally and resourcefully.
If these aren’t issues that are of concern to you than good for you man. These are things that concern me… and I have zero debt and a decent education. I can only imagine what a bunch of young guys mired in student debt are feeling…
This remembers me of a dude at Costco. About 34, with sad eyes, pushing a cart full of useless shit. His wife just hit the Wall and 30 pounds overweight, talking over the phone, and two little spawns who ordered their father to buy them cookies. He actually asked for forgiveness to his own sons, and promptly bought them more cookies.
I felt so sad for that man.
Even if he swallowed the red pill, the divorce would be financially crippling.
I thought of telling him: “brother, you look so sad, would you like me to kill you?” Then he answers: “no need for it, I am already dead”.
yeah i’m gonna try and avoid that… even tho truthfully I’d like to reproduce at some point…
Agree. Women fall in love with men every day.
They fall in love with his money, his house, his care, etc……so yes, women can love (lol).
Don’t feed the trolls.
These are all pretty obvious. Might as well add “You’ve seen her get fucked by a guy and then him hand her some cash.”
Like the post op tranny you banged last weekend?
Were you that post op tranny? HAHA, I kid, I kid (maybe).
Hartley is a porn actress: Jewish.
Baiting the Jew Among You par excellence. Bwahahahahah.
Nina Hartley actively promotes anal sex too.
So true. Other things to watch out for:
1. Social media accounts full of expensive restaurants, drinks, food and/or club pics. [She is a materialistic foodie/attention whore]
2. Minimizes or criticizes your lifestyle, work or income. [Thinks you are financially beneath her social circle]
3. Specifically wants to know where will you go for first date. [To evaluate if she will get social proof and to decide her outfit]
4. Proposes to meet at an expensive and/or popular bar. [She wants to exhibit you to her orbiters and girlfriends]
5. Asks you if you know x or y person. [An experienced social climber/cunt. She is quickly trying to judge your social proof]
If she drives a SUV worth 6 times your car (paid by daddy, of course), you will never impress or get enough social proof with her, unless you have a private yacht. A big one. You will be competing against beta orbiters driving BMWs who pay for her bottles at clubs (tip: they won’t fuck her either).
Assuming she doesn’t blow you immediately, your chance is to take her to a cheap, good located venue of your choice, game her and go to your place for a same night bang. Unlike her rich beta orbiters, you don’t have any social proof to loose, and being considered a player will actually increase your value. Be prepared to eject at any moment, though.
This is the deal with rich 8-9s. Women lack the cognitive structures to distinguish between good or evil, but they surely have the ones to ascertain their reputation within a social circle and to intuitively judge the social and monetary value of a man within seconds. That is why you may fuck her in an alley when drunk on vacation, but if you meet her in her neighborhood with her friends, she will reject you without mercy.
Great points, especially 3,4 and 5. These are however commonly seen in professional models, struggling actresses and high class whores – the higher level or rich 8s-9s whores.
One thing for sure is to check out her FB, twitter or instagram before scheduling your date. The more number of guys on it – the more number of chances she must’ve sold herself to them. If she’s out of the Anglosphere, do check her VK, Mamba, Tagged or other social accounts which deal with dating or hookup too.
“Women lack the cognitive structures to distinguish between good or evil”
– That is a pearl of wisdom. Superbly articulated.
“Women lack the cognitive structures to distinguish between good or evil, but they surely have the ones to ascertain their reputation within a social circle and to intuitively judge the social and monetary value of a man within seconds.”
Wow, that pretty much sums up the essence of females.
Hypergamy is one logical bitch.
Actually as we speak, I distinguish good and evil at a more advanced level than you ever will. Women can live without men. Its men who cannot live without women, even immoral ones.
Umm no.
Humans in general are the only animal that will not follow their gut instinct
You nailed it.
Quote:”So true. Other things to watch out for:…”
You just described behavior of almost every contemporary female (westernized and in the process of westernizing) thus reinforcing the notion that all women are whores.
To quote Esther Vilar, who asked in 1971 “Why won’t women be unmasked?” Well, dear Esther, over the past 15 years they now have. The real question now is: how will the majority of men proceed with this information?
Also, she tends to not have a real job. Sort of implied but not stated.
Actually come to think of it, many girls I dated had some of the more general items on these lists (not to the same extreme) but it was different for them as they had real jobs (one had her own boutique and did quite well with it) and knew how hard it was to make ends meet so it tended to temper their bad behavior.
One the other hand, there were also girls who had their own job and it simply made them more desperate to get a big fish but you could tell something was fishy about them. These lists do a great job elucidating the signs.
True. A (beautiful) woman who supports herself without a job is always suspect.
I picked my husband for character, not money. That way, I’ll always respect him enough for him to love me enough. I married him when he was starting out an had nothing. I got behind him and his dreams and will continue to do so. Who knows? The stock market could crash, he could lose all money and job. But I still have a man who I can look at with admiration every day because of WHO he is!
Money can come and go–so it’s a horrible way for a woman to choose a man. IF she marries a man for his money, she better learn to admire the man for all he can give her and never take him for granted, appreciate and respect him for what she does get from him. I see women who take the money, but then don’t admire/respect/appreciate their man for it. It’s terrible. It’s what I call “female entitlement.”
Admirable sentiments. Are you sure they will hold when (god forbid) lets say your husband stands on the edge of financial ruin, lost a job because the company cannot afford employees etc.?
Did anyone consider how these women tend to be putty in the hands of a manipulative, skilled pimp?
Manipulative, skilled pimp = Basically any guy that is willing to smack them around.
Which is actually a rare talent, most men simply won’t do that. Also, it helps if they use drugs because then they always need money and view a pimp as a responsible financial manager (they know they are a mess and would spend every penny on coke, xanax, booze, etc.).
Keep your pimp hand strong they say…
Alas, too often I have seen lonely young men fall in love with bar girls from Thailand or the Philippines, marry them, and then (horrors!) bring them back to the U.S. The problems these men face are so numerous I don’t know where to begin, but you ROK readers already know.
For years I would travel overseas and have the time of my life with these girls. For whores they can sure be pleasant, many with a great sense of humor, they put western whores to shame. I just KNOW if I “rescue” one of these poor sexy dolls she will in gratitude be mine forever, right?
Er…..right?
Oh well, that’s why when I was finally ready to settle down I chose a hard working farm girl from northeast Thailand and I must say that after almost 18 years of marriage life is good. As for those fun that you can‘t bring home to mom or trust dad, since they are so much nicer and ladylike I would rather see foreign women get our money than these western women who think your money should be spent them.
1-35: she’s American, supports feminism and the hook-up culture, has a vagina.
solution: date a black guy
cons: non
pros: bbc, he gets me a new tv and laptop every week, dunno where he gets them from but i don’t care, bbc friends etc…..
also SINGS SINGS SINGS SINGS SINGS SINGS
LMAO, read this – quoted from the POF profile of a 19yr hottie:
“I’m active and sporty, I’m careless so I’m up for anything, I’m picky with my dudes hints why I’m single. I’m not stuck up, like all the rest of the pretty women that are so damn****, I know I’m beautiful and I’m blessed with the looks I got! ?? I want my guy muscly and tan, with tattoos and beautiful eyes, and someone that has a nice car and a roof over their head, I am not a gold digger but I want someone as successful as I am, that’s all. I work as a receptionist at a furniture store, but I make enough to support myself and have money left with.”
Works as a receptionist at a furniture store and somehow has a roof over her head, a nice car, and disposable income… somehow I don’t see a man being able to pull that off. Haha, unless by “as successful as I am” she actually meant her looks equate to a guy with all that stuff, she may be a whore.
lol..you really have to love the young and naive.
She wants a man to have a nice car, a roof over his head and be ‘successful as her – furniture store receptionist’ all at the low, low price of working near minimum wage? Women just kill me.
There is a word for this…. delusional.
I gave POF a try. Once for a month, gave up and tried again for two months. Closed the worthless account last week. Absolutely worthless waste of time. If you actually think you can get a “date” off an online dating website like POF you are sadly mistaken. You wont even get replies.
And if you CAN — then you probably really have no need for an online dating site.
eh, i’m borderline – good enough looks (not great), do not have a strong social circle to impress with (just moved). If you put that you are over 6ft tall you will get more attention but I have to agree for the most part it is a crapshoot. I’m 6’2″ but I’m considering going NBA style and listing as 6’4″ to see what will happen.
So really, like Tinder, POF is just a place for people that already get laid can locate even more willing partners.
In other words the 6 and ups for females, and the 90% of men they find attractive.
So 90% of the remaining men are wasting their time there feeding the egos of the females with 6+ looks while they just use it as a free ego-boost and hope some occasional casual 10% guy messages them.
Its not for me I guess.
Should have read “10% of men they find attractive”
Haha, it’s not for most people. I am probably a 6-7 and get messages from landwhales (i’m talking over 220lbs) all the time and maybe twice from girls that were basically my equivalent. Probably sent out at least 300 generic copy/paste messages (with a really good original line designed to start a flirty convo) and got back about 50 responses. Maybe 15 of those went past the 1 response. 5 dates. The dates were with good looking girls (6-7s) but still, 5/300? That is online dating for the average man, but it is really easy and I have a date coming up with an 8 so I’ll keep trying it. IMO however many approaches it would take in the real world is going to be similar online, you can just do it faster though. If you get with a woman it means she a) found you met her minimal standards for attractiveness, and b) It was the right timing. That is all there is to it.
I don’t think she is delusional, this is just what the world is like for a top 10% 19yr old girl in the USA. They live in a world a normal man cannot fathom. I think the only people that have it better are top ~5% males; they get to indiscriminately fuck these kind of girls.
Yeah, really not a ton to ask for given that she is 19 and hot.
I like the muslim rule. The decision of marriage of a woman is decided between her father/brother and the suitor. The suitor gets all the woman’s possessions, money and she is to be loyal, obey and serve him. The suitor however must take care of her and take responsibility for her or her father/brother may assault him.
Also recall in Japan they used ot have it so the husband took all of his wife’s possessions, property and money as well. And the wife is to be submissive, obey and be loyal to the husband while the husband becomes leader and takes responsibility for her.
That needs to be brought back in the west.
This is actually a legitimate guide; I personally experienced #4, with other signs, backing it up. I opted not to pursue her, especially when she has her own baby papa.
#36. If all else fails her hooch feels like a Mack Truck can fit in it with room to spare
To add…a pretty solid article. The larger of this list are true….the bigger chance she is a whore.
The hooch part is ofcourse correct. Same thing applies to a loose anus on a girl. You don’t have to fuck her ass to know it. In the doggy position, a gaping anus is proof enough she’s been whoring her ass around. Most experienced (or young) whores take it up the ass, to ‘reserve’ their wombs for their future ‘husbands’. Some semi-whores or whores who like unprotected sex, use anal sex as birth control. This screws up their anal elasticity.
Another whore tell: she asks for anal, likes anal, or is experienced in anal. I know some guys like anal, but keep in mind most girls who enjoy anal have already been dicked prior in their asses, that’s why they’ve gotten used to enjoy it. This is however a very deceptive sign too: some experienced anal sluts will pretend to be ‘good’ girls by disallowing anal, but a loose anus is the giveaway for their past history. Or sometimes, anal lesions, hemorrhoids and a problem with ‘fecal leakage’ are other signs.
A girl who asks to put it in her butt, likes a finger in her butt or likes anal play is of course a slut (or possibly a whore too). Some girls who ask for anal on their period are also experienced in that.
I once knew a Greek girl who was dating a Cuban acquaintance of mine who always complained of IBS or bowel problems. The thing was that he told me she never allowed him anal. Later on, it transpired to him that she was a part-time whore. Good that he practiced safe sex with her, so he ended the relationship without any problems.
A woman who has STDs is also a sign of a slut or whore.Herpes, warts on her privates. I once dated a 19 year old Bulgarian girl I met through work who had a great body, one of the best ample asses I’ve ever seen. The thing is that in bed, when I bent her over to bang her doggy, I saw warts near her anus, almost like a halo of warts. It simply set off an alarm in my mind, and I feigned an excuse that I remembered something urgently that I had to leave. A few days later, I learnt she was fucking around for part time money.
Cystitis and UTIs are also examples of that. I knew a EE girl who worked with me who had a frequent problem with cystitis. My friend who banged her told me that she was proficient in anal to vaginal sex. A woman who has no concern for safe sex is a dangerous whore or slut.
I don’t have a problem with dating whores. If you do, go to a fucking arab country, marry a muslim, and never get your dick sucked. Have fun.
Sluts are for one purpose only.
The reality is that any relationship with a slut beyond being a receptacle for your cum is way more trouble than it’s worth. And that’s where the problem lies: more often than not a slut will try to present herself as a ‘good girl’ looking for a relationship. This is dishonest and articles like this serve a good purpose in being a guide for men not to be suckered in to relationships like that.
If what you want is a monogamous long term relationship, you’ve already lost.
Why do you presume that marrying a Muslim means you’ll never get your dick sucked?
Some Muslims consider it a sin.
I knew a girl who would date a wealthy guy. It never went anywhere because she said he was a jerk and ended rather quickly. Settled down with a travel writer and had a kid with him. Still not sure what to make of that.
signs of blue pill delusional posting:
not a single mention on male *looks*
OH SHIT…This article made me realize I’ve been getting played by a girl I’m dating. So much on this list rings true. Oh shit oh shit oh shit, wake up call! Thank you, sincerely!
You better dump that hoe. Don’t even apologize. Just dump her ass, no remorse.
Ghost her. Do not reply to any texts. Work on yourself, save yourself before something bad happens.
The hypergamous whores/gold diggers are a dead giveaway. These bitches are ratchet as fuck hiding under a cloak of modesty. The solution is to if one of these women gives off any of these signs, pump them, tip them, then dump them fast, and never marry any of them.
“18. She speaks out in favor of prostitution and admires famous prostitutes of lore.”
This is true. The picture of Madame de Pompadour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_de_Pompadour) says it all. A lot of career spinsters who are part-time whores and professional escorts often idolize such women, and even ‘model’ or ‘train’ themselves to be like one.
And a woman who defends prostitutes as ‘humans’ is an ambiguous choice when it comes to potential partnership. A ‘social justice warrior’ or what not, women who defend whores often see no harm in that (or wouldn’t even practicing it). Whores often defend their ilk. The sistahood of whores when it comes to solidarity against their ilk is often remarkable. The only time this ‘solidarity’ gets threatened is when they’re trying to hook a man. That’s when their ‘solidarity’ breaks up and they start fighting like bitches over a piece of bone (the man) among themselves.
At some level, aren’t all girls just whores? Think about it, men courts girls with attractive appearance for sexual reasons. And girls are attracted to men with confidence. And confidence in men directly translate that he is able to handle his shit. In another word, he is financially sound.
So in conclusion, you can forget about dating a saint because the act of courtship simply mean an exchange between a girl’s look and a men’s resources.
“So in conclusion, you can forget about dating a saint because the act
of courtship simply mean an exchange between a girl’s look and a men’s
resources.”
There are women in this planet of 3.5 billion women who stick with their men when their finances take a hit. You’d find them in traditional societies where women believe that it is their responsibility to slug it out sticking with their men through life’s vicissitudes. These are the women who should be cherished.
A woman who primarily dates a man for his status, or money is a whore. The problem is that in the west, the materialism of the culture incites the innate hypergamy of women even more. In the poorer parts of Europe and Asia, women want to marry a man who has his shit together, because they want a provider. It’s different from the materialism you see in the west – the west’s materialism is do with attention whoring and ‘presentability’, whereas the ‘materialism’ of these women abroad has often to do with deprivation of a normal lifestyle (which they want to escape from) and ‘presentability’ again.
The most common thing most women want is the presentability factor of their men, because women secretly or openly, want to be ‘proud’ of the men they associate with. That’s what hypergamy is usually about. Which is fine – but things can get shitty, once you fail in that. With whores, the problem is the presentability they seek in a man is in his economic status.
There are women who support their men through thick and thin. If such women didn’t exist, then men wouldn’t travel over oceans and miles to find these women to start families with them. These women understand that men cannot succeed all the time. They know men can fail too. What they want is just to have a family, with men who’d give them love, support and companionship. In today’s world, these are what as called as ‘unicorns’. It’s up to men to find them, and once men have found them, it’s upto men to control them. Don’t expect ‘good’ women to be ‘good’ forever, unless you control them to remain ‘good’. That’s why game is so important, and becomes so important – because even ‘good’ women have a latent hamster. If you relax for long even in a relationship with a ‘good’ woman, the hamster could spring to life someday and affect your happiness.
How many faithless Russians, Chinese and whatnot have white men wasted their nuptials on? The survival rate of such relationships can’t be much better than domestic tail.
I suspect a Japanese or a Hindi girl might be trustworthy but: I’ve fucked some filies from Iran, Pakistan and Lebanon and they have clearly been taken off the shelf and dusted off and they were 18-20 range. Traditional society my pale Irish arse.
They probably fucked you because of the white God factor.
That’s why white men have the best chances and options when it comes to dating foreign women. Women elsewhere, especially in the Middle east and Asia stlll secretly worship white skin. White skin is worshipped everywhere by darker races. That’s why white sluts still get thirsty betas to wife them up.
So white men still have a choice abroad. The question is that the white man must HOWEVER TRAVEL. The white man didn’t conquer the world sitting at home on his pale white arse. He moved out. So the same thing applies to women. Women are just like lands to be conquered.
When I meant to travel abroad, it meant to travel abroad to find a traditional minded wife. The Asian and Middle eastern filies you shagged abroad were already corrupted by western society and its values, that’s why they gave it up so easily.
The Persian girls are all shooting up heroin.
“I suspect a Japanese or a Hindi girl might be trustworthy but”
Don’t really know about Japanese, but being a an Indian Hindu, I assure you you are better of suspecting untrustworthiness than vice versa.
fair enough, all Hindu’s are liars. Indeed. Peccavi
I was talking about the women. They are the same. But oh well, political correctness be damned, even in the face of racism. Having said that, in likelihood you are a liar too. don’t tell me you’ve lived your life in chaste honesty.
No I captured Sindh and ended Suttee. I’m Charles Napier
“because even ‘good’ women have a latent hamster.”
I seem to be increasingly encountering this particular theme in media.
I don’t see it as control. More guide. One thing is for sure though. You can never keep a woman happy. You can however do the best you can. If she’s a miserable cunt then that is her issue.
Natalie Portman’s a hot little Israeli…..not many of those out there.
And who exactly told you that ? I mean it’s one thing to brush aside the bullshit of modern females, judge their true nature by behaviours you have observed yourself and asserting dominance in your dynamics with women.
It’s another thing entirely to start yapping like a baboon high on crack.
IF guys keep chasing poossy…….
You can ask Easy E that, that’s right, he died of AIDS.
Poor bastard. The guy was addicted to pussy. Oh well. He should have used his sexual energies in more productive ways. Should have just stuck to rapping and building an empire.
He was almost certainly taking it up his arse.
Synopsis: Signs 1-34, she’s American, and #35, she didn’t get all the cum out of her hair before your date.
If she’s not a virgin, she’s a whore. The end.
Unfortunately, that is the sad truth.
99% of the time, what you just said holds true.
All women are whores, only their levels of whoreness differ.
Women who outright get paid for sex are the most honest.
never honest, just least deceptive
Open straight-up whores are the most honest out of all women. That’s why Jesus H. Christ hung out with them 😉
Jesus didn’t hang out with whores, because they were ‘honest’.
Jesus rather forgave a fallen woman, who repented and became a follower.
I see sir that you have choked on a whole bottle of blue pills. Tell me, do you believe in the Tooth Fairy too?
Id rather get with a stripper than with a college slut. At least a stripper is honest about what she is as apposed to a college slut who says shes only been with 6 guys and you know shes been with 2 or 3 time the amount of men. I wouldnt marry em though. Id just hit it and leave it.
“At least a stripper is honest”
Women are rarely honest. The ‘good’ ones usually are least deceptive…
Only a virgin makes a good wife. I don’t know how many guys I’ve street preached to who cry about some woman suddenly becoming unfaithful. I tell them SHE WAS A WHORE FROM THE GET GO. If you’re not the FIRST man she’s gone down on, THEN WHAT THE HELL MADE YOU THINK YOU’D BE HER LAST? Only BRAND NEW will do. If she’s not BRAND SPANKING NEW – she won’t do. She’s no good, and NOT relationship material.
If you can fuck a non virgin with NO emotional attachment – as in not even giving a fuck if she gets hit by a train when you’re done with her or if you’d be unfazed if she goes and gobbles 50 dicks in a club later the same day – that is – if you can completely dissociate with her after she goes on her way – then BLUE BALLS to you. But a major whore is just as unfit for marriage as a minor whore, and NEITHER are LTR material. Whether she’s fucked one other guy or a thousand, used is used. A ‘used’ woman will never be YOURS like you think. That’s why quality virgins are a precious resource for men and why dads traditionally got up in arms over their daughters. It would be less of an embarrassment to the manosphere to pimp a used woman than to parade her as a ‘wife’.
A used goods wife puts you in beta purgatory. But a virgin wife shares with you her fine clean slate. You can teach her how YOU like it. Game a virgin, AND KEEP HER. Or throw in the towel by snagging a used wife and show the world that you’re mediocre beta ass is at best marginally above the retard game you would display by riding around on a moped with an inflatable doll ‘girlfriend’ on back. ”Hey Opie, you got one that ain’t been popped. Slow, that thing’s only got 50cc.”
Case in point, SLOPPY SECONDS are FOR THE DOGS. When you take your family to a nice restaurant, you want a FRESH PLATE, right? Then the server cleans the tables and scrapes the plates for leftovers into A BUCKET and puts it out the back door FOR THE DOGS! FOR THE DOGS! That’s right, THE DOGS.
Or like buying a USED car from a buy here pay here tent. You might see a nice Cadillac or Porsche, but you DON’T KNOW who’s taken that bitch for a joy ride, or used that driver’s seat for a fart cushion. Stick your hand in the seat crack and you’re likely to GET BITTEN by something. You never know.
On the other hand, a NEW Caddy is GUARANTEED. The drive train, the components, everything. You can kiss the carpet on the floor because YOU KNOW IT’S CLEAN. You never get the service and loyalty from A USED ONE.
Yes, a used auto is cheaper, but the rule does not apply to women. A virgin woman costs no more to game than a whore. It’s where you set your sights.
Quality men should NEVER EVER get married. Not to a virgin. Not to anyone.
There is no fucking value that accrues to a man for getting married. NONE!
You can happily go on your MGTOW path, as long as you’re stuck in the Anglosphere.
If men lose the ability (or refuse) to distinguish between good and bad – even when it comes to women – then they can’t be helped.
What are you even talking about? Good and bad what? Women? Were you drunk when you wrote this comment?
Where are these “virgins” you speak of? Nearly every girl in my country (USA) has taken multiple cocks. Unless Western women are devout Christians, they will not be virgins.
He’s probably mentioning the Middle east (where you can still find virgin Christian women in Lebanon, Egypt and Syria), Central Asia and some parts of Moslem and Slavic tribal europe.
Asian women are rarely virgins today. Catholic and Anglican countries – the least chances of finding virgins.
The highest chances of finding virgins you’d find are in Maronite Christianity, Coptic Christianity and Eastern or Greek Orthodox Christianity, especially if the girl is a Middle eastern christian (though Slavic orthodox europe has already been corrupted by premarital sex).
The female mustache is a problem. Also, I’ve slept with a variety of Middle Easterners and the women are probably more promiscuous. Once they have hooks in you they look ready to inflict tyranny. Judging by the dung heap societies they are associated with.
“The female mustache is a problem.”
WTF? Did you sleep with this?
No it’s a general problem with Arab women. They tend to have tasches. I did not sleep with any hirsute women.
The most beautiful Arab women are from:
Lebanon, Palestine, Syria and Egypt.
Other North African are also beautiful – Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya too.
And what you said is nonsense. Arab women don’t have tasches. They’re often very beautiful and feminine.
What you’re spewing is racist bullshit.
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Sluts > Whores.
The slut is after the sex, the whore is after the money.
All women are whores, but with proper early influence they can become sluts or obedient trad women. Men… you should learn more about Manipulation and how to manipulate women. Become a predator
So many of these posts say in one form or the other:
“if a women is with a man for status or money she is a whore”
I am confused? Why the fuck would a women want to be with a man that doesn’t have status or money? If you are yelling this that loudly then you have none of either. Men are primarily value based on their ability to provide and protect. Without status or money you will not be able to do that.
What should a women want a guy for?
– His good looks?
– His character and integrity?
– His ability to be a loving and present father?
Actually what a women wants is all of those things but without the ability to provide and protect a women and her child(ren) she won’t want you.
I would argue that a women that doesn’t want a guy with status or money is an idiot.
And men talk about loyalty and wanting a loyal woman. Loyalty has no place in a romantic relationship. I don’t want a woman to stay with me out of loyalty. I want her to be with me because she wants to be with me. And I don’t want a woman to stay with me one second longer then she wants to.
If I am not the highest value man she can have then she SHOULD find a higher value man. By way of example, if I were in a long-term committed relationship (which I would never be but I am for this thought exercise) and I became a quadriplegic my first order of business would be to dump my gf. We can still be friends if she wants and she can visit me in the hospital but I clearly cannot be a man that satisfies her as a romantic partner.
But let’s turn it around. What attracts a man to a women?
– Her charming personality? (can’t see that from across the room)
– Her ambition and ability to be financially independent? (can’t see that from across the room)
– Her self awareness and introspection? (can’t see that from across the room)
No. A man is primarily attracted to a women’s beauty and ability to reproduce (combination of signs of fertility and youth)
Are you telling me that if you are with one woman and a MUCH MUCH better one comes along and wants you (younger, hotter, smarter, more fun, better in bed) that you are going to stay with the first one out of loyalty? Fuck no. You won’t and you shouldn’t. Every human being is wired to be drawn to the highest value partner they can possible find.
Women have such a short window of desirability to men it makes perfect sense that they should be a bit Machiavellian about it. I don’t know why this upsets men. To do otherwise is to have shitty self preservation skills.
If you understand a women’s drives you can tap into them and make them work for you and not against you.
“Why the fuck would a women want to be with a man that doesn’t have status or money?”
lol you just implied that all women are INDEED whores.
This sounds like you don’t understand biology or evolution.
Sexual selection is a way to control to some extent improvements in your own genetics. It’s doesn’t always work of course. We get turned on by that which we desire which deep down seems to be based on genetics. It’s possible that these attractions can be fouled up with propaganda but biology will always take back that which belongs to biology.
Director has it right and you have it all wrong.
If you read my entire post I was very clear about what I thought. I implied nothing.
Women are acting rationally and therefore are NOT acting like whores. They are doing the exact same thing as men…trying to give their DNA the best chance of surviving and flourishing.
For a rational women low value men should be avoided like the plague and high value men should get all the pussy. Simple solution…be a high value man and get all the pussy.
“I would argue that a women that doesn’t want a guy with status or money is an idiot.”
– This is precisely the materialistic attitude of feminists. It’s like sending female hypergamy into overdrive. If men think like this way too (as feminists would want to), and argue that women should want men primarily for resources, you’re lowering the standards of women itself. A shitty individual with cash gets a woman of high value. If you define your ‘high value’ on money, then sorry to note that the day you’d be bankrupt you’re non-existent.
This is why western society has failed today. Men judge themselves on money, and think that need to ‘earn’ a woman.
When men themselves condone whoredom and sluthood in women, nay even encourage it, instead of regulating or controlling it, how can men complain that they don’t have good options of marriage anymore?
“Loyalty has no place in a romantic relationship. I don’t want a woman to stay with me out of loyalty.”
A man who says this is usually:
– A cuckold mangina
– A man who is disloyal himself
– A MGTOW who’s given up on marriage
– A man who doesn’t seek to pair bond into marriage
– A man who doesn’t see a future for the relationship, so he couldn’t care a fuck whether loyalty exists or not
If you don’t value marriage, then it’s obvious loyalty of a marriage doesn’t matter to you. I’m assuming a romantic relationship is a short term fuck arrangement which you’d voluntarily and premeditatedly drop after a period of few months.
Swinging, adultery, open marriages. The state of our society where loyalty is non-existent. And we complain of falling birth rates and no incentives of marriage itself. How can we, when we don’t demand loyalty in women’s characters anymore? What we rather do to female promiscuity, is adjust to it. By accepting that loyalty is not necessary.
When men themselves don’t value loyalty of a woman anymore, why should we complain that there marriage is a losing proposition? We’ve taken away the onus of responsibility of loyalty away from women themselves.
You live in a magical universe. Sexual selection is the driving force of micro and macro evolution. Re read Darwin’s Origin of the Species and use your fucking brain instead of your religion for once.
You have missed my points entirely.
I am saying what is…not what should be.
Women value men that can provide and protect. It is biological. Pretending it is otherwise and calling them whores for being that way won’t change what “is.”
I am not defining “high value” as having money. Women have defined it that way. I am simply observing what they have done.
And for the record I said men of high value. There are lots of things that give men high value (although success is the biggest of them). A man that is a great father. A man that is self aware, introspective and wise. A man that has integrity. A man that is intelligent and well educated. A man that is well traveled and well read.
Now let me be crystal clear on what I mean by “Loyalty has no place in a romantic relationship. I don’t want a woman to stay with me out of loyalty” and ask you a question.
Imagine you are married to a women for 10 years and you have a child together. You have been a loyal, faithful and loving husband, good provider and excellent father. You come home early from work to surprise your wife and you overhear this conversation that she is having with her sister. It goes something like this:
“Yes he’s such a nice guy and he’s been a great husband and father but I just don’t love him anymore. I haven’t for a number of years. When we have sex I close my eyes and want it to be over. I just don’t have romantic feelings for him anymore. Sigh. But since he’s been such a loyal husband I feel I owe it to him to stay with him so I guess that is that. I will stay married and make the best of it.”
Is that the type of loyalty you mean? You want someone to be with you for any other reason then that WANT to be with you?And you can’t demand loyalty or love or any other emotion. It is either there or it isn’t.
It isn’t that I don’t value loyalty. In friends and in business I demand it. It is that loyalty in a romantic setting is misplaced IMO. Someone feels how they feel. You simply can’t demand they feel otherwise.
And of course I have given up on marriage. Why would I ever enter into a legal agreement that disadvantages me? Again, high value men would know better. A low value man has little to lose so no big deal getting married. A high value man has a ton to lose (prenup or no prenup).
You are saying exactly what the economist Thorstein Veblen said over a hundred years ago.
What do you want?
A medal?
WTF are you talking about? I was simply responding to his comment.
Do you actually have a point?
Sorry, what a load of crap. Reading this I actually felt compelled to post a comment for the first time on this site.
Firstly, your example is beyond ridiculous and is an obvious straw man. Situations like that very rarely arise, what men are talking about when they bemoan the female lack of loyalty is the tendency of females to jump ship at the first sign of trouble, even troubles that are obviously temporary. There is a big difference between ”oh I’ve thought long and hard and I just can’t seem to find the love that was once there” and ”What’s that? Some frivolous/imagined problem/a chance at 5 minutes of some greener grass? Bye!”. The second situation is far more common, the idea of sticking through the inevitable hard times that the vagaries of life will visit on even the most solid of relationships is something that simply does not occur to the modern woman. If you’re fine with fair weather friends then that is your loss, although I’m really not sure on what basis you decide that loyalty is important in friends but not in a partner. If you get into some shit, on what basis do you expect any of your friends to remain steadfast by your side rather than deciding that their continued association with you is no longer advantageous and splitting? Why does this not apply to a romantic partner?
Even your conception of what loyalty consists of is idiotic. If a woman of enormously higher SMV comes along I am likely to jump ship it is true, but life is not either/or most of the time. I can also be bought, I would do dishonourable things if you offered me a sufficient reward, that is a human failing shared by all. The fact is, say I had been married to a woman for 10 years and I had a chance with a moderately higher (but not enormously) value woman, it is far from just forgone that I will betray my wife. Those 10 years of history I have with my wife most certainly do count for something, they’re likely to count for more if me and my wife stuck out some tough times together. The amount this counts for is finite, and yes, the more obviously superior this other woman is the more likely that will outweigh my loyalty to my wife, but you cant just say; ”Oh well if a hugely better in every way woman comes along you’ll betray your wife so loyalty is irrelevant”. If you’re honest with yourself you will admit that your attachments to everyone in your life have tolerances which can be overcome by a variety of factors. How strong those tolerances are and how much it takes to overcome them is not something you can just handwave and say ”oh well the bonds can be broken under sufficient strain therefore their strength is meaningless”. A friend who will betray you for $100 is barely a friend, a friend who would not betray you for the chance of make his deepest desires a reality is the very incarnation of saintly virtue.
All that said, there is no way I believe you actually live consistently with the opinions you expressed. When you’re with a woman you really like and are attracted to you still long for her to be loyal to you and you alone, just like the rest of us mortals. I understand that on this site there is this odd (and in my view distasteful) one upmanship for who can create the coldest and most cynically heartless persona to pretend that they have, but I don’t buy a word of it.
Maybe you need to re-read that shit you fool. Natural selection is the driving force, not sexual selection. Sexual selection isn’t even strictly necessary, it just helps the process along. Those who survive better have more offspring by virtue of being alive, as opposed to dead, that occurs even with no sexual selection and is sufficient for evolution to occur.
I find it stunning that you call my position a load of crap and then basically agree with me.
It isn’t fucking loyalty if it is finite. Chris Rock said it well…you are only as loyal as your options.
So in your mind you want your woman to be loyal to you…but only if it isn’t a way better option than you? That is fucking retarded. How much better? 20%? 50%? 75%?
And I am not saying that if you are dating one person and you see a cuter one at Starbucks you end things. But my example is way more real then you think. Maybe not the walking in on them confessing it but I assure you I have heard it from many a women about past relationships.
And I really don’t care what you believe about me and how I live my life since you don’t know me from a hole in the wall.
And you have it all fucking wrong. I am not cold hearted. Quite the opposite. If I am with someone and actually give a shit about them I want them to be happy. If I don’t make them happy why would I want them to be with me? That’s retarded. A heartless person would allow another person to be beholden to them because they had been loyal to them.
A few years ago I was dating a stunning 19 year old and helped her get her modeling career started. My friends were like “Dude if she makes it big she won’t want to be with you.” I was like “Then she shouldn’t be with me.” You don’t do for others for their loyalty. You do it because it is consistent with your own self image and if you care about another person you want the best for them regardless of if that benefits you or not. Heartless? Not even a little.
Fitness is expressed as sexual worthiness. What do you think a Peacock has tail feathers for?
Why does Kate Beckinsale have a hot arse?
It’s a deeply embedded process that triggers sexual attraction. It’s also possible to short circuit this process with ruses or at times violence, but it’s the driving force.
There are chapters in origin of the species devoted to the process of sexual selection.
A classic example, and one used by Darwin, is the flamboyant tail of the peacock. It appears to serve no purpose in terms of survival and may actually be a handicap – a disadvantage in terms of survival for existence – as the tail makes it more difficult for the bird to escape from predators. The explanation in terms of sexual selection for its presence is that peahens are attracted to it, and there are various suggestions as to why they like it. Generally sexually selected traits either signal fitness directly, as their development depends on good health or a good diet, or indirectly when they signal the ability of the male to survive despite the large cost imposed by the fancy plumage or what have you.
You are an ignorant fuck.
Blue eyes are also a classic example of sexual selection. Nothing else can actually explain the spread of the trait. With your attitude you ought to just donate to a sperm bank.
“A few years ago I was dating a stunning 19 year old and helped her get her modeling career started.My friends were like “Dude if she makes it big she won’t want to be with you.” I was like “Then she shouldn’t be with me.”:
– lol you sound like a deluded Sugar Daddy. Of course then in your case, you’re the whore who gets used. Women use you to further their aims, and of course like a masochist, you’ve gotten used to them using you. So now you’re asking all of us to be like you.
“Why does Kate Beckinsale have a hot arse?”
– Working out to tone it (Exercise), her 40’s (women’s asses tend to grow more chubby in their 30’s and 40’s) and frequent anal sex.
http://www.joblo.com/videos/movie-clips/katebeckinsalewingcreatures
Fuck ‘sexual worthiness’.
What was the ‘sexual worthiness’ of Seal that Heidi Klum popped out kids with him? What was the ‘sexual worthiness’ of Kanye West that Kim Kardashian is now going to pop out a baby slut with him?
Possibly Darwinism is your ‘ignorant’ religion.
I agree with a lot of points you made in this post, but parents owe it to the child to stay together, as children in a two family household have a statistical advantage over their single family peers.
When do you say women want men who “provide and protect”, what exactly are we supposed to provide and from whom are we supposed to protect?
Women in Western society have equal earning and voting rights and are generally very safe. “Providing” attention was a huge factor, but social media has taken that out of the equation.
I probably never would have heard of either two without the press. Klum isn’t even on the radar. Neither is Kardashian. Both are media creations.
Evolutionary theory suggests the following.
1. Exterminate Negroes. 2. Sterilize the stupid and the congenitally ill. 3. Don’t feel guilty about massacring competing male groups and their offspring.
You better hope for your sake that doesn’t come to pass.
Statistics are funny things. They can literally tell you ANYTHING you want them to. I divorced when my daughter was one and she is a happy and well adjusted kid. Many of her friends in two parent households are cutting themselves, taking antidepressants, etc.
I am a loving and present father that makes my daughter my highest priority. I never miss a school function, coach her soccer team (even though I have to drive an hour each way for practices and games) and she knows 100% I ALWAYS have her back. My kid is happy and well adjusted because she has two parents that love and care about her and don’t put her in the middle.
Ask most kids when that are grown up who’s parents didn’t love (or even like each other in some cases) each other how grateful they were that their parents stayed together. Some might but many won’t. I would argue seeing your parents HAPPY is more important then seeing them MARRIED.
And what I mean by provide and protecting is mostly about being a confident, in shape, successful, intelligent, well educated man. A woman wants a guy that has his shit together on EVERY level. I am NOT SAYING that a women only wants a guy that can pay her bills.
I have yet to meet a woman that wants a guy that is below her on the “has their shit together” scale. They want a guy that is a step up from themselves. Both from a biological standpoint (the higher value you are the higher value her offspring will be) and from a survival point of view (no one wants to have to struggle to live a decent lifestyle).
And while a woman CAN earn as much as a man she DOESN’T earn as much as a man because of the career path she is likely to take given the fact that she can have children. Women become nurses (in general) and men become doctors. Women become journalists and men become engineers. In only 1 in 4 married households does the women earn more money and in those households the man is SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to be unfaithful because he must validate himself some other way. The research actually shows that if the guy is a stay-at-home-dad he is 500% more likely to cheat.
Check out my site and tell me what a deluded sugar daddy I am. Trust me I am many things…deluded isn’t one of them.
What I mean by providing and protecting is mostly about being a confident, in shape, successful, intelligent, well educated man. A woman wants a guy that has his shit together on EVERY level. I am NOT SAYING that a women only wants a guy that can pay her bills but that a guy that has no job or a shitty job isn’t going to be appealing to high value women.
Women do not use me because I simply don’t allow it. My CPO runs around $30 and I am nearly 50 and only date 7s-9s that are 18-24. When you can hit my numbers then tell me how it is.
Roger Scruton (who landed a very much younger hotty) a distinguished philosopher pointed out that if “love” exists at all it’s freely given and if it’s worth anything mutual. Good point about a “loveless” marriage. That’s going to be toxic beyond all belief and at that point the two might as well part ways sexually even if they don’t divorce.
High value women seek even higher value men. It isn’t complicated. Biologically everyone will naturally gravitate towards behaviors that will ensure the survival and flourishing of their DNA.
“I divorced when my daughter was one and she is a happy and well adjusted kid.”
“I will never be monogamous. I will never get married.”
“I agree that men should have women in their lives exclusively for sex
and fun. But I most strongly disagree on marrying a women for any reason
what so ever.”
– That’s the real reason why you talk about not caring about loyalty, and hatred of marriage, or commitment. You’re burned before, and you haven’t dealt with those demons yet. You’re divorced before, that’s why you hate marriage – THAT TOO ANYWHERE. You’ve put 3.5 billion women in the same cup as the woman you’re married to before. And yet you say you don’t hate women.
Even if you date hot young women, run a successful website, and probably make a lot of money. You think these external things would take away the pain of that painful memory. You use these ‘achievements’ to validate yourself as a successful high value man, even though you may not realize that. That’s why you say women shouldn’t date a man who isn’t rich.
“A woman wants a guy that has his shit together on EVERY level.”
– What do you mean by that? Are you speaking all women want a full rounded man? Maybe 8s or 9s. I’ve known 8s or 9s abroad who however couldn’t care less. They married guys who didn’t have ‘their shit on EVERY level.’ What are these levels? Could you elaborate further?
“In only 1 in 4 married households does the women earn more money and in
those households the man is SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to be unfaithful
because he must validate himself some other way. The research actually
shows that if the guy is a stay-at-home-dad he is 500% more likely to
cheat.”
– The statistics you’re quoting are from the present state of materialistic western society. Rather than showcasing cheating itself, it actually shows what is wrong with our society. We live in a shallow society where materialism and shallowness dictates human interaction and self validation, and even relationships.This shallowness destroys the soul, and fills it with hate. Hatred is a poison which corrupts the soul.
And this is what has happened to most men in the west today, because the feminist society has failed them. The women have failed them. The relationships they sought have failed them. It has created a whole new breed of angry, disgruntled men who don’t believe in humanity anymore. Who don’t believe in human relationships anymore. These men then attain solace when they move out from the matrix of the west.
Marriage has been the natural course of male-female human bonding throughout history, and is a part of the traditional sex roles of a traditional society. What you see in the west is nothing but a degenerate corrupt society which has destroyed it, by corrupting women and scarring men through women.
You say children prefer their parents to be happy, instead of being married. Your words actually promote single motherhood and illegitimacy. This attitude, if every man would accept in the west, would further accelerate the decline, what we’re already seeing. This is contrary to the traditional framework of family, what most traditional men would like to see resurgent again. You quote from statistics. Statistics themselves show children from broken families tend to indulge in more risky behavior than children from stable and loving families. Your relationship with your daughter may be an exception to the rule. But that doesn’t mean an exception to the rule, should be the rule for all.
This is unfortunately the state of most western men. They get burned in marriages, and relationships with the scum of western women, and then decide that marriage or commitment are useless. They lose the ability to open their hearts again to pair-bonding, and even if they do, they want to do without marriage. Which is somewhat fair in the feminist west, where the divorce courts are lopsided in women’s favors.
I’d suggest you to visit Asia, FSU or EE. You’d realize that some women there not materialistic as they are in the west, even though westernization is beginning to affect most of these places (and the women). Some of them (even hotties) still want to marry for companionship and love. They couldn’t care less if the man was well off or not, they only want a man who can take care of himself, and her. And they’re not the type who’d be fair-weather wives or girlfriends, like the ones you commonly see among western women.
The guide does not say that men should ONLY seek out those women for relationships, who’d want to marry careless and financial fools. Rather, it serves to educate men that they should avoid those women who push the need for resources to the point of materialism, such that they become fair-weather partners. Not to mention the women who sleep around for money, and who can pose as virtuous women, and trick men into marriage.
If you hate marriage, then it’s understandable considering your past history. You also have reproduced, so you’ve already propagated your line. You have in a way, fulfilled the biological demand of your genes. But saying that all men shouldn’t marry is ridiculous. Why not? If not in the west, then shouldn’t western men seek foreign women?
The idea is to accept and transmute the pain of a previous relationship into wisdom, not into hate. Hatred for marriage, hatred for women (even though I won’t say you hate women, considering you’re still dating them). You don’t hate women, BUT YOU HATE FORMING attachments to them. Which is understandable considering the state of western women, but what about women elsewhere? How many women have you dated from abroad? And have you ever moved abroad to date women, and that too of what quality and type?
Things are not so bad as they seem for western men, provided they move abroad. The shitty culture of the west often drives men to the point of despair where they begin to despise marriage and commitment. But this is not the case with the rest of the world, even though the poison of western culture is gradually penetrating to those regions of the world as well.
“Women use you to further their aims, and of course like a masochist0”
You know what, he has a point. The real question is that you brought a certain materialistic value to her in the relationship (improved career prospects), what kind of value did she bring to you?
If by your logic, all she had to offer was sex (seriously, orgasms aren’t as needed as oxygen, at worst case scenario you can simply discharge it yourself if it comes to such dire straits) and hanging around and then she ditched you and you simply let her go because since she no longer wants to be with you she shouldn’t (as per what you said) doesn’t it boil down to the fact that she used you (she dated you for your connections in the first place probably) and then simply discarded you ? Sounds rather masochistic to me.
‘”A woman wants a guy that has his shit together on EVERY level.”
Why do you care so much what women wan’t ? what about what you wan’t. As far as women are concerned, they can accept a man or they can go to hell. Rather it should be the man who is the deciding agency in the dynamic. The man accepts or discards a prospective partner (that too as no more than a fuckbuddy for some time). If she grows truculent, just discard her, make sure people know who dumped who and move on. I may not have experience in this yet, but I firmly believe that a man with brains and drive enough to succeed can master what hey call the Game too. Women may have some low cunning regarding these matters, doesn’t mean that they can’t be manipulated for after all they too are no more than human. Stop trying to spell what women want. For a man what he wants comes first.
First of all it was 6 years ago back when I hallucinated that monogamy might makes sense if they women was nearly physically perfect. It wasn’t her career prospects but my wanting her to generate a significant income with her best asset…her looks.
She was charming and I loved her company. She didn’t end things with me, I ended them with her because she was crazy jealous and I don’t do drama. We are actually still friends now and she watches my dog when I travel.
I moved on and decided once and for all that monogamy isn’t for me. I was using it as an example for another reason entirely. But let me give a better and more current example. One women I see from time-to-time lives in the pacific northwest. When she is in town for business we hang out and hook up. She is smart, successful, young and beautiful. I helped her negotiate her sales compensation plan and she doubled her income. Another girl I have seen I helped put a budget together since she had never done one. I didn’t pay her bills. Just helped her figure out where her money was going.
With the women I date I provide mentorship and great sex. Not money.
I completely agree. The good news is what a women wants in a man, a man should want for himself. Is there really a guy that doesn’t want to be financially independent?
I am simply pointing out that a KEY COMPONENT that a women looks for in a man is his success. To pretend otherwise is just silly. Calling them whores for looking for that makes no sense.
Why does this bother you so much? I am baffled.
Your view is retarded.
Everything in this universe has finite tolerances, everything. EVERY-FUCKING-THING. It is not loyal/not loyal, just like it is not hot/not hot, brave/not brave. Would you consider only a man who absolutely can never be broken by any terror to be brave, while all others are cowards? A person is brave to an extent, or loyal to an extent. I assure you the number of people on this planet capable of absolute unshakeable loyalty is scarcely more than a handful.
do you even have friends? You say it’s not loyalty if it finite? Am I take it that you are so inconceivably stupid or naïve as to believe that you have even a single friend who absolutely would never sell you out under any circumstances? Maybe you are one of the few of us blessed with one such friend, I assure you most people have none, yet you say you insist on this quality in friends? In business as well? Are you serious?
You misunderstand, I’m not disputing the existence of sexual selection. I just felt the need to rudely correct your mistaken assertion that it is the ”driving force” of evolution. If you’re going to say arrogant things like ”go re-read x” you need to not make idiotic mistakes like that in the same post.
I disagree that there are always tolerances. I do have friends (I have three) that wouldn’t sell me out no matter what under any circumstances based on TOLERANCES. For instance it wouldn’t matter if someone offered them $1,000, $100,000 or $10,000,000 for something that would hurt me they wouldn’t do it. These same friends wouldn’t sleep with my girlfriend even if she threw themselves at my boys even if it was Natalie Portman (insert celebrity crush here). They might want to, they would tell me about it, but they wouldn’t do it.
I have no tolerances when it comes to my daughter. There isn’t an amount of money or whatever where I would do something that would in any way harm my daughter (think of the circumstances in the movie Man on Fire).
That is NOT the same as saying there are no circumstances where it would be different. There is a HUGE difference between absolute loyalty and BLIND loyalty. If one of my closest friends became a serial killer then I would turn them over to the police and vice versa.
They are my closest friends because they have earned my friendship and we have absolute loyalty towards each other.
I of course have other “friends” but as we all know there are categories of friends. Friends you play poker with, friends you might hit a club with, friends you knew back from high school, college or business school that you still see from time-to-time. Plenty of these “friends” would sleep with one of my gfs if given the chance.
And I never said there was such a thing as absolute bravery. I don’t believe there is. But that’s not loyalty.
But back to the ACTUAL point I was trying to make that you haven’t responded to is that in ROMANTIC relationships loyalty makes no sense IMO. You insisted I was retarded for thinking such a thing and that so long as there was SOME loyalty and that you wouldn’t throw each other under the bus for something below some imaginary tolerance (I cannot fathom how you would know what that tolerance was or how you would know it applied to a particular relationship) then it counted as loyalty.
People should (and generally do) always act in their own best self interest. There is no such thing as altruism. You do because it serves you or you don’t do it. My friend that won’t sell me out do so because it serves him to NOT sell me out. His self image as a loyal friend is more important to him than the $10,000,000 he would get for selling me out. Ayn Rand wrote an interesting essay about a hypothetical scenario. You are walking down a beach and you see a man drowning. There is not a single person around. If you don’t try to save that person 100% for sure he dies. Even if you are a strong swimmer there is some chance (let’s say 3%) that if you try to save him you will drown as well. Since you have no fucking idea if the person drowning is Hitler or Gandhi should you try to save that person? If you do while it might seem like an altruistic act in fact it is not. Your self image is simply inconsistent with a person that would allow a helpless person to drown. You try to save them for yourself…not for the drowning person (since you don’t even know them).
I think this is a fundamental truth about human beings (and a good one actually) and it is particularly true in romantic relationships. We are programmed biologically to select the highest value mate we can possibly find. I have no illusions that if I was dating a fantastic women and Channing Tatum wanted her, bye bye. Doesn’t matter how great I have been to her, good I fucked her, rich I was, etc. To pretend otherwise is delusional. The difference in my point of view from most of the men on here is I am not mad at women for being this way because men are this way too and it makes sense to be this way. To be fair, she might just fuck Channing Tatum and not leave me for him because she knows he isn’t going to have a relationship with her.
To say that your woman wouldn’t leave you if it was Andy Dick, Jack Black or some much less compelling celebrity isn’t loyalty. They just haven’t hit their tolerance yet which is NOT LOYALTY.
Well you are clearly painfully delusional if you believe that your friends are so loyal there is absolutely nothing that could cause them to sell you out. I’m not even talking about something so crass as a dollar amount, though for the majority of people a sufficiently high one is going to be enough. I guarantee you each of these men harbour some deepest, darkest desire of the heart for which they would do basically anything, including sell you down the river, such is human nature. Men who will never betray, no matter what the temptation, no matter what the duress, are so rare as to be basically mythical creatures. If you are fortunate enough to count even one such luminous individual as your friend then I envy you, you have found a treasure most of us can only dream of.
But indeed, back to the primary point. You made a ridiculous, sweeping statement (”Loyalty has no place in a romantic relationship”) in haste and because it sounded cool in the moment. You probably thought it made you seem like the steeliest eyed realist around, a function of the one-upmanship I mentioned before. Now all the other idiotic rubbish you’ve come out with since then is only necessary because you refuse to back off from that catastrophically stupid assertion.You define loyalty as ”she stays with you even after she stops loving you”. Is this the same kind of a loyalty you apparently ”demand” from your friends and business associates? They have to stay your friend even when they don’t like you anymore or continue to do business with you even when it doesn’t profit them anymore? No of course not, when we talk about that you revert to the sane person’s definition of what loyalty is. I expect loyalty from a romantic partner for more or less the same reasons as I expect it from friends. That is I expect a history of joint experiences, of shared triumphs and hardships faced together to trump simple narrow self-interest and selfishness in a lot of cases. Like I said, I’m willing to accept that human beings are not perfect angels, strong enough temptations and coercions exist to overcome almost any bonds of friendship, love or loyalty, just as horrors exist which can break the courage of even the bravest man.
I always love when people claim to know things they so clearly cannot know. Since you don’t know me or my friends clearly you can only have an opinion based on your own experiences. I base my opinion on my own value system. I will grant you that I cannot be 100% certain that my 3 closest friends wouldn’t sell me out because it is impossible to know how anyone would react 100% of the time under every possible circumstance. What I do know is myself. And I know I wouldn’t sell any of them out for anything. Same goes for my daughter. It simply isn’t possible.
It is a bold statement and I stand by it. Shared experiences, triumphs or challenges overcome have nothing to do with loyalty. My point was that the ONLY reason I want someone to be with me is because being with me makes them happy. The idea that they might stay with me out of loyalty would sicken me.
If I am to understand your definition of loyalty it is that people will sometimes and under some circumstances over look their own self-interests because of your history together. Do I have that right? If so that is a VERY VERY narrow definition of loyalty and one I would argue few people share.
Narrow definition? Dude, you do understand that words have meanings right, you can’t just make shit up as you go along? Not only is my definition not ”VERY VERY narrow”, it is not narrow at all. It includes many things that under your moronic (and selectively applied) definition, do not count as loyalty. This makes it a broad definition, which is the opposite of a narrow definition. If you cannot even grasp the meanings of basic words such a narrow it is no wonder you struggle so badly when it comes to abstract concepts.
And I am not the one claiming to know things I do not know, you are. Saying that you would never do something is not something you can ever know. As you even admitted, you don’t know that your friends wouldn’t betray you under extreme circumstances. I would go further, no only do you not know, you cannot know. It is not something that could ever be known. No human being can claim to know the mind of another so totally that they can make claims such as ”this person would never commit X act, no matter the circumstances, no matter the duress”. I deny that it is even possible to know one’s OWN mind in this fashion. Have you ever been tortured? Have you ever had your heart’s most desperate desire offered to you freely? If no then you don’t have a fucking clue what you’d do in those situations, people find out things about themselves, usually things they don’t like, when they run into situations like that.
Honestly though, when you say things like; ”Shared experiences, triumphs or challenges overcome have nothing to do with loyalty” it really makes me wonder why I’m wasting my time arguing with somebody so stupid. These things are the very FOUNDATION of loyalty, they are the wellspring from which it emerges. These are the things that will make soldiers lay down their very lives for their comrades in battle. That assertion is perhaps even more incomprehensibly retarded than your original ”Loyalty has no place in romantic relationships”.
You absolutely claimed to know things you don’t know
“I guarantee you each of these men harbour some deepest, darkest desire of the heart for which they would do basically anything, including sell you down the river, such is human nature.”
Case in point.
And while I cannot know what is another persons heart I can know what is in mine. And I can say with certainty what I would do. If you have a child you would know this. There simply isn’t amount of torture or money that would cause me to betray my daughter. Simply can’t happen.
Sigh…and let’s try this definition thing one last time. You have said people will sometimes and under some circumstances over look their own self-interests because of your history together and you have called this loyalty. How is that a broad definition of loyalty? A BROAD definition of loyalty would be absolute loyalty where there are no conditions, tolerances, etc. Yours is more narrow then that. Mine = Broad. Yours = Narrow.
And you can continue to call me stupid, retarded, delusional, etc. but insults in no way bolster your argument. They undermine it.
Again you are just wrong. You have repeatedly claimed that loyalty less than 100% is not loyalty. ”If it is finite it is not loyalty”, you said that, those were your exact words. I count as loyal a friend who would be loyal to me up until the point of having his fingernails pried off with a screwdriver. Even though his loyalty is limited and breaks under enough strain, it is still well within the bounds of what I would consider a loyal friend. My definition thus includes many things which your definition does not, and is therefore broader. You understand that a broader definition excludes less things not more things right?. Why am I having to explain this? Oh right, because you’re stupid.
Not as stupid as you are arrogant and delusional though. There is no torture that would cause you to give up your daughter? I take it you’ve never been tortured? What am I saying? Of course you haven’t. Listen, FAR better men than you have cracked in the clutches of torturers. Good, strong men have spilled their guts and delivered friends and family members to certain death.
Here, I’ll give you a line of wisdom of the kind you keep trying to produce but only coming out with drivel; Loyal men betray each other, brave men flee from battle.
Everyone has their limit.
Wow…your ignorance and stupidity really is breathtaking. True that men have cracked under torture and given up friends and family.
Others have not. They have suffered and died and given up nothing. I am in the second group. You as a pussy are in the first.
Wow…your ignorance and stupidity really are breathtaking. True that men have cracked under torture and given up friends and family.
Others have not. They have suffered and died and given up nothing. I am in the second group. You as a pussy are in the first.
Oh quite, yes your imagined fortitude in the face of even the most gruesome of hypothetical tortures is truly astounding, an inspiration to all men. In another age the bards would have sung songs of you.
Honestly though, expressing what a deluded moron you are in terms that make that point more compellingly than your previous post is a feat beyond even my intelligence. On that note, since we have shifted somewhat from discussing the point of contention to indulging your comical armchair hero fantasies, I think that’s a good point to call it a day.
Dude.
Nobody upvoted your comment.
Dawson, as a biologist i will give you a practical real-life example of why your comment is product of social conditioning. Excuse my english, and read carefully the example.
There is a guy who is wealthy and “stable”, he is loving guy, an obvious monogamous guy. He finds a woman, she choose him to become her husband… and in the right social environment, when she is alone or with her friends she can fuck with an alpha guy – relying on his looks, attitude and social skills.
The rich Provider will be used… as provider by her. Why the not so rich Alpha, will satisfy her needs.
Most men are polygamous, most men are waking up from the terrible western nightmare (product of social propaganda/conditioning)… we simply want more pussy. You can’t get more biologically realistic than that. Use women as fuck-buddies and marry for trad women (and still have fuck buddies)… this can’t be done while you brag infront of women of how rich you are. If you earn well, keep it a secret
Let me be 100% clear. I will never be monogamous. I will never get married. What I mean by providing and protecting is mostly about being a confident, in shape, successful, intelligent, well educated man. A woman wants a guy that has his shit together on EVERY level. I am NOT SAYING that a women only wants a guy that can pay her bills but won’t respect a man that can’t.
High value men (on ALL levels) get the women. THAT is biology.
I never brag to women about ANYTHING. Bragging to a woman is what low value men do. High value men are just themselves. Confident and completely comfortable in their own skin.
I exclusively date women that are high value and low drama.
My success isn’t a secret to the women I date and my CPO is around $30.
I agree that me should have women in their lives exclusively for sex and fun. But I must strongly disagree on marrying a women for any reason what so ever.
Your original comment confused the readers here, as you can see the replies. The therm you used “Provider” (the rich nerd paying for the company of a young woman and not even getting sex) angered me.
I was under the impression that you think that the Providers need to become the role models for western men.
As a male, i have taste. I prefer women at the age range from 18 to 23. I speak from personal examples, those young sluts want sex as much as teenage boys and can be manipulated to not even ask for your money. If i wanted prostitutes, i would bang prostitutes. I simply don’t PAY on dates with women. Teach your bitch.
I was very clear that i was saying what women seek…not what men should do. I hope I have clarified.
And I don’t understand why the Manosphere insists on calling women sluts/whores/hookers/etc. Men and women want different things. So what?
And what are you like 12? “Teach your bitch” Seriously?
“Teach your bitch” Seriously?
Yes, of course. It’s sounds corny, but if you are dominant male you see women as bitches. And you need to “teach” them. Don’t take the therm too literally, by “teaching” i simply mean careful manipulation and “guidance”.
In my country, we have a definition of what women want. “Jaguar for her garage, Tiger in her bed, Fox around her neck and one jackass to pay for all that”. And you think that the “jackass” (Provider) is noble goal. “Men on the manosphere”… oh, you are not part from the community. And btw, there is a difference between Whores and Sluts. Sluts = sex; Whores = want money. No one is slut-shaming her, we are whore-shaming.
It doesn’t sound corny. It sounds juvenile.
I am extremely dominant and most of the women in my rotation are under contract (they are my sub). And of course a good owner provides guidance and mentoring. Manipulation isn’t necessary IMO.
And for the love of god have you read any of my posts? Where the fuck did I say that being a provider is a noble goal?
And yes I am part of the Manosphere. What’s your point?
My point is that whore-shaming makes no sense. You are basically saying that being a slut and wanting sex from a guy is fine in your eyes but a women that seeks a provider makes her somehow worthy of shaming? That’s retarded. She is simply acting in her own best self interest just as you are acting in yours.
If you are a high value guy you can have amazing sex with young, high value women without paying their bills…all the while knowing that is part of what nearly all women want.
You are divorced man who still promote the toxic idea of males becoming “Providers”. You are blue-pill to the extreme, to the readers of ROK – remember the username of this poor fellow “Dawson Stone”.
Women don’t know what they want, they are emotional, not logical. But from an objective analysis of their behavior, the logical observer (male) can conclude that for long-therm relationships, women want wealthy “nerds” (losers), and for sexual needs – they need “alphas” (some people don’t like the therm alpha and even say “alpha men don’t exist”, but this can’t be true, because humans are animals and within the animal kingdom there are indeed “Alphas”). And the Alpha is not providing them with anything except sex and good emotions.
Women are not (sexually) attracted to money, but to value of men. Valuable men = dominant, aggressive, self-esteem, virile. Women prefer to fuck the cool waiter and bartender than the rich dude with the Ferrari.
But i am talking to a divorced man who still want to act as gentlemen and provider. Hopeless bastard
“Oh, those men on the mansophere hate women. Boo hoo. Evil, evil men. They are SHAMING womyn, oh the horror ;_;”
Fag
Whenever someone makes it personal I know I have won the debate.
And AGAIN where the fuck have I said men should be providers? Are you being obtuse on purpose because it doesn’t help your argument?
You close 9 new women between 18-23 in a month (none below a 7 and most 8s and 9s) with a CPO under $30 like I did in July and tell me how you have it all figured out.
Women want the fit, attractive, successful, charming, intelligent guy. Can the bartender get laid? Sure. Can a jobless fuck get laid with a little game? Sure. But a broken clock is right twice a day too. A women wants an ALPHA that has his shit together. If you can be THAT guy you will have more women then you know what to do with.
My goal is to get the highest quality women with the least amount of effort. Doing cold approaches on hundreds of women for a some phones numbers, a handful of dates and an eventual bang is like skating uphill. Sure you can do it but why would you?
And I don’t give a fuck who you shame or don’t…but emotions cloud judgment. And I don’t think men are evil (I don’t actually believe in free will and therefor don’t believe in evil) but that they are misguided. If one can extract all ego and emotion from meeting women you will get way better results.
Don’t hate women for begin programmed the way they are. Understand it and use it to your advantage.
Of course you won in the imaginary debate. “Cold-approaches are like skating uphill”. Oh really? Then how you meet your “quality” women (overpriced escorts) of yours?
Here is my issue, you see a “quality” woman… and how do you approach her? Statistically speaking, 99% from the women who men finds attractive on the streets or social meetings are not part from their social circle. So, their only option is Cold Approach.
So tell me, i want to learn something new from a blue-piller, when you see a hot woman – how do you approach her if you don’t use cold approach?
Does anyone on ROK want to weigh in here? lol.
Anyway only suckers meet women offline. I meet women online and close them offline. My first date close (FDC) rate is 85%.
High value men should only meet women online. Low value men look like shit online so yes they should continue with the offline grind.
“High value men should only meet women online.”
You lost the game of Life mate. Our fun discussion is over.
Enjoy your escorts.
Keep up the grind!
I’m baffled at reading Dawson Stone’s trolling comments.
He’s divorced, has a kid, and says men shouldn’t marry ‘anywhere’. He says women shouldn’t want men who don’t have their ‘shit’ together without ‘provider’ capabilities – he would even argue for that case – and then he retracts by
saying he never promoted the idea that being a provider is ‘noble’. He then says men should display ‘high value’
(presumably by acquiring wealth) and then contradicts by saying men shouldn’t pay the bills of women (for whom he earlier argues that women shouldn’t go for men who don’t have provider capabilities). Basically, he asking men to troll women seeking providers by not paying for them – lol.
Eg:
– “Why the fuck would a women want to be with a man that
doesn’t have status or money?”
– “For a rational women low value men should be avoided like the plague and high value men should get all the pussy.”
Why the fuck would a woman who wants a ‘provider’ want to be with a guy who doesn’t want to ‘provide’ for her (by paying her bills)? Is she retarded? A woman who actively seeks a provider would have to be that to forego that if she wanted to be with a guy who didn’t want to provide for her. Would she be only happy if her partner was high value? Ironically, he says women wouldn’t be happy with men who couldn’t ‘provide’.
But that’s not all. Look more at his comments:
– “What should a women want a guy for?
His good looks? His character and integrity? His ability to be a loving and present father?
Actually what a women wants is all of those things but ‘without the ability to provide and protect a women and her children she won’t want you.”
He later redacts this statement by saying:
– “A woman wants a guy that has his shit together on
EVERY level. I am NOT SAYING that a women only wants a guy that can pay her bills.”
“High value men are just themselves.”
-“Women value men that can provide and protect.”
He then says he is a part of the manosphere (sounds more
like his idea of manosphere are MGTOWS who solicit escorts online), and then says men shouldn’t marry anywhere.
(Congratulations, if we follow this advice, we won’t have a family anymore).
He then says children are happy if their parents are happy,
more so than if their parents are married. He talks about fatherhood as an ideal, but presumably without marriage – because he says marriage should be avoided.
More of such comments:
– “A man that is a great father.”
– And of course I have given up on marriage. Why would I ever enter into a legal agreement that disadvantages me?
– I would argue seeing your parents HAPPY is more
important then seeing them MARRIED.
Basically, he’s promoting Illegitimacy, single motherhood and broken families. The last things we want to add to the already declining state of society.
But that’s not all, he then blasts real life game, and says online game is the ‘real game’.
– “High value men should only meet women online. Low value men look like shit online so yes they should continue with the offline grind.”
(Criticizing real life game?So Mr. Stone, your ‘approaches’ are done online? With whom? Escorts on craiglist? ‘High value’ men are afraid of making approaches in real life?)
I seriously don’t know what”shit on every level” he talks about to be a high value man, but I can deduce that he shat all over disqus with his whore promoting and contradictory comments.
The more you read his comments, you realize why he is white knighting for whores. He is a bitter divorced man who hates marriage, and promotes p4p. Because the 18-24 year old 8s and 9s he meets online at his age of 55, are online escorts and whores themselves.
Dawson Stone white knights whores, because he wants to promote p4p. That’s not ‘gaming’.
he’s ESL.
He also thinks that emotions are something outside of evolution.
“Oh really? Then how you meet your “quality” women (overpriced escorts) of yours? ”
– THIS^^^.
You caught him. He doesn’t game in real life. He only solicits online prostitutes. That’s why he is pissed off at women who go for men who can game them, without paying.
He basically promotes the provider concept, because that’s how sleeps with women. With 30$ an hour whores.
“And for the love of god have you read any of my posts? Where the fuck did I say that being a provider is a noble goal?”
Read this:
” What should a women want a guy for?
– His good looks?
– His character and integrity?
– His ability to be a loving and present father?
Actually what a women wants is all of those things but without the ability to PROVIDE and protect a women and her children she WON’T WANT you.”
Of course I read it…I wrote it.
Are you really that dense? What I am saying is that a WOMEN WANTS a provider.
That by being seen as someone with provider value (all the while being Alpha as fuck) you will get more women. That is NOT THE SAME as saying you should be a provider. The only person I provide for is my daughter.
NOWHERE do I say it is a noble goal. Or a goal at all.
“You close 9 new women between 18-23 in a month (none below a 7 and most 8s and 9s) with a CPO under $30 like I did in July and tell me how you have it all figured out.”
– Did you close all those women in your dreams? Or are these 8s or 9s in reality actually 2s or 3s?
“Women want the fit, attractive, successful, charming, intelligent guy. Can the bartender get laid? Sure. Can a jobless fuck get laid with a little game? Sure. But a broken clock is right twice a day too. A women wants an ALPHA that has his shit together.”
– WTF is your definition of ‘alpha’? If the bartender or even the jobless fuck can get laid with game, then good for him. Why the fuck do they become less of ‘alphas’? The woman considered these guys as worthy that’s why she fucked him in the first place, mind you. I’ve seen guys who didn’t have normal jobs but pulled more women with game, then so called,high value self styled ‘alphas’. Mind you, ‘alpha’ game doesn’t work everywhere. That’s a fact.
http://www.rooshv.com/not-all-women-of-the-world-want-an-alpha-male
‘Alphas’ like you exclusively preach online game. Didn’t know ‘alphas’ relegated themselves only to the virtual world – when it comes to dating.
Did you read your shit?
Do you understand your shit?
Which ridiculosly deluded woman who actively seeks a ‘provider’ would want to date or sleep with a provider of only theoretical ‘value’? Only a slut would do that.
Even post wall sluts marry betas because betas have actual provider value – because they actually provide for them.
The alphas don’t provide. Neither do they offer to provide.
Even the women who fuck them often know that. But they HOPE the alpha might provide.
“NOWHERE do I say it is a noble goal. Or a goal at all.”
– “Men are primarily value based on their ability to provide and protect. Without status or money you will not be able to do that.”
Who wrote that? Aren’t you implying that men should strive for status or money to attain ‘value’?
You also say women won’t want men who don’t have the ability to provide and protect. Now you say the only person you provide is your daughter, while you troll the ‘high value’ women who seek men of provider value, that you date by not paying their bills.
Are you providing for your daughter, or actually your ex wife? Make up your mind.
I am not implying anything. I am SAYING that a man that is successful will attract more women. Are you dense? I am saying that any man with a fucking brain wants to be as successful as he can be because if he is successful he will have a better life. Duh. The nice side effect of being successful is that you will attract more women. Can you NOT GRASP THE CONCEPT that you can attract women in part because you are successful WITHOUT paying their bills?
The last part of your comment is hard to understand because it is barely coherent but I will try to discern what you probably meant.
Yes the only person I provide for is my daughter through my CHILD SUPPORT payments. I pay my ex-wife nothing.
And I will repeat it again for those too thick to have gotten it the first 9x I said it…Women want an Alpha that has it all. Looks. Success. In great shape. Intelligent. Etc. Etc.
Women that are high value aren’t interested in a guy that isn’t successful. In the same way that a high value guy isn’t interested in an ugly women.
Show me the bartender that is pulling hot chicks when they are nearly 50 like I do. Can he at 25? Sure. Can he at 50? Fuck no. Not a chance.
And check out my site (www.dawsonstone.com) as I have pics of the women I am closing. You judge for yourself if they are 8s-9s or 2s-3s.
What I actually said was that women want and ALPHA AND a guy that has his shit together.
And how the fuck is it the virtual world when you have to meet them to close them? Wow your stupidity is breathtaking.
LOL
On this page
http://dawsonstone.com/sugar-daddy-dating/
Mr.Dawson says:
“I am often asked why I use Sugar Daddy Dating (SDD) sites instead of the more traditional dating sites….”
Here he says
“Check out my site and tell me what a deluded sugar daddy I am. Trust me I am many things…deluded isn’t one of them.”
Who seeks a sugar daddy?
Enough said.
If you go on ‘sugar daddy’ sites and ‘close’ under 30$,
then the young girl is definitely breathtakingly stupid to close with you.She’s rather find a younger man who’d spend more on her. Her own purpose to put her profile on a sugar daddy site would be defeated, as women seek sugar daddies to ‘provide’ for them.
You’re assuming we’re stupid to believe that a woman would close with a 50+ man she found on a sugar daddy site for under 30$ after she puts her profile herself on a site seeking a sugar daddy? You sure are one cheap sugar daddy.
What are you trying to pull here? The girls forget their needs for money and get wet at your supposed ‘game’? What the fuck, that girl must be really an idiot. Just like how said:
“I would argue that a women that doesn’t want a guy with status or money is an idiot.”
Now it’s all clear: you’re a faker. A whore promoter, who calls himself a part of the manosphere. This is not a p4p site.
So , either you’re”
– probably getting these girls wasted and fucking them when they’re inebriated, or
– lying that you underspend (30$) or
– lying that you’re actually ‘closing’ – when in reality you’re paying for pleasure – 30$ to fuck cheap young sluts. So you actually fuck, or just get a blowjob for that amount?
That’s what girls on sugar daddy sites actually advertise for, they’re offering sexual services to someone who’d support them financially.
P4P is not gaming.
More proof of P4P:
Articles like “Cost per orgasm”
http://dawsonstone.com/cost-per-orgasm/
Begins with references to faggot beta pimp movies like Risky Business, where Tom Cruise stars as a soliciting loser beta who becomes a pimp at the end of the movie, making his home as a brothel.
Is the manosphere supposed to be that?
Anti-family formation articles like:
http://dawsonstone.com/men-should-never-marry/
http://dawsonstone.com/romantic-love-does-not-exist/
Read what the commenters have said to him.
I agree…I am not gaming. I am just being myself. Gaming requires you to be something other then who you are.
And p4p would require that I pay. I do nothing a guy wouldn’t do on a normal date.
To the uninitiated you would think that…but you are wrong. Many of these girls are looking for excitement and a guy that can afford more then McDonalds. Sure plenty of them want to get paid but I simply don’t bother with them. They are easy to weed out.
Fuck this ‘unitiated’ bullshit talk!!! You know shit about gaming, when you just said you don’t even practice to game women, and you call yourself as ‘initiated’???
Read the contradictions in your own comments:
“Women do not use me because I simply don’t allow it.”
and then
“A few years ago I was dating a stunning 19 year old and ‘helped’ her get her modeling career started. My friends were like “Dude if she makes it big she won’t want to be with you.” I was like “Then she shouldn’t be with me.”
Man, you’re so fucking deluded and masochistic. You don’t even want to accept that women are using you. And you preach ‘provider masochism’ to men, so that whores can live off them.
A man must first provide for himself. A man who spends his life trying to provide for women, will find his supply running out of women when he fails to provide for them. That’s why game beats money every time.
http://www.rooshv.com/banging-prostitutes
Game is like having passive income, where even if you are not currently
paying to play, you still have residual pussy that you can fuck for
free. So learn game.
And stop whore promotion. If you want to promote whores, do it on your site.
Dude you are the one promoting my site not me.
You cherry pick and splice together pieces of my comments to try to win your argument but it is transparently stupid.
I am going to go out on a limb and assume you have a shit job with few prospects, limited education and average looks. If I were you I would be angry too I guess.
Coming from a guy that thinks homosexuality is contagious I guess that’s about what one could expect.
And since you bring up Roosh…his Cost Per Notch http://www.rooshv.com/true-cost-per-notch is the closest thing to my CPO. His CPN was $1,400 and mine is $30.
Gee…let me think…even with your limited education you can probably work out which of those numbers is better.
I wouldn’t bring up the D&S card here. You and I both know what it is women really want, but it tends to get you into arguments, especially about slavery.
I’ve found it’s best just to keep it to myself. The Zombies are coming, and when the collapse occurs masters will be able to come out of hiding, but until then, there is still a huge vein of blue pill running even through RoK when it comes to the subject of female submission and male dominance.
Too many people have been indoctrinated to assume slavery is evil, even though women crave it above all else.
I couldn’t agree more. Women crave to be owned. It still shocks me as to how prevalent it is. Most men haven’t a clue. 50 Shades just helped push it along.
50 shades was nothing more than a big fucking clue by four.
I figure it’s like this. Owning a woman shows her exactly what she’s worth. no questions, confusion, or mental anguish required. If you are pleased with her, you keep her. If you are tired of her, you sell her to someone who will pay what she’s worth.
Cognitive dissonance is zero. And with women, Happiness is the lack of cognitive dissonance.
That “rich stable guy” has social problems. A man making a small fortune ought to keep a mistress and “get his retaliation in early”.
Btw…What is the point of money if you don’t use it to satisfy yourself? I don’t think you are saying anything that doesn’t confirm the above post. “Riches can’t buy everything” as the Rolling Stones pointed out, nor were they ever intended to do so. They are a compensation and consolation or Route-B to some of the things you want or could otherwise get for nothing.
I think English is your second language right? You didn’t appear to read the post you are replying to.
This is why I believe in the decrepit West, men in addition to going MGTOW should stop slut-shaming. What I mean by this, is that the only redeeming quality in most Western woman (Anglosphere women mainly) is pussy. Pussy is something that all hetero men want in one capacity or another. Honestly, all this talk of relationships, commitment, marriage, girlfriends etc, is beta as fuck. Men have a tendency on here to dwell in the past about an age that will never come back instead of adapting and thriving.
Some guys still dream of their unicorn, instead of conceptually stabbing to death that unicorn and succumbing to reality. I believe we make our lives much more difficult when we slut-shame, because a girl who would have put out, won’t and will make you wait for it. Of course you should despise promiscuity from your female relatives or a mate, but when a nation’s female populace on the whole possesses one asset of value that you want, do you honestly want to criticize them for the very thing you want?
Why not let these girls slut up and encourage them? Do you think the patriarchy will be making a triumphant return in the next 15 or even 30 years? Not a chance. There will always be whores, but the easy girls that are out there should be encouraged to make it easy. Women will always be collectively beautiful, not a single one of these girls is special. Whores age and die, beauty for a women has a 12 year shelf life at best. They’ll always be another beautiful woman, especially beautiful women leveraging their beauty on unsuspecting beta-males to acquire gifts and payments.
Whores and sluts have a difference. It comes to the resources part. We know what sluts are, but whores? They often camouflage themselves discreetly, as compared to sluts.
What about the options to find good women outside the west? The reality is that there are a lot of options. There are men who choose to travel to find wives. But the globalization of materialistic western culture is gradually corrupting women abroad too. A lot of men go for mail brides and get conned by semi-whores who pose as good women. It then becomes necessary to identify them.
But these traits can be found in western women back home too. She might be the town slut for others, but she’ll be the whore for you. She’s hide her slut past, but she’ll discreetly whore herself you to in a relationship, which you even wouldn’t realize till much later. Others get it free, you essentially pay for it. Either ways, she’s not worth the hassle of a relationship.
Of course men who don’t believe in marriage or MGTOWs – who are men emotionally scarred due to the depraved culture of the West which has destroyed the chances of finding good women back home – wouldn’t think too much about foreign women or marriage itself. But there are still men who do.
There is still hope abroad, but maybe not in the West.
You started using paragraphs. Very cool. I enjoyed reading this post.
Agreed. I love sluts.
The Zombies are coming.
More possible whore tells:
1. She’s a feminist.
2. She’s a fattie.
– More so if she is from the West. She whores herself for access to free food
3. She’s a post wall slut
-Apart from freeloading off men for food,
these women use men for a variety of other purposes in access to their holes.
36. If she is one of those ‘sex positive’ feminist.
Do you guys get tired of being so damn angry all the time?
Believe it or not women actually do stuff like this; usually it’s more minor like going on dates with guys they know they don’t like just to get free food and booze but it is a reality. Some guys are overly angry about it but a lot are just sharing advice on how to avoid being played. I’m sure there are plenty of women that discuss shitty men with each other; it is just natural, most people kind of suck and everyone is looking out for their own best interest.
Stop projecting your own feelings mate.
Tl;dr psychoanalysis:
This article about the identification of whores made you uncomfortable for two reasons:
1. You are a “blue-pill” male who know that there is something wrong with the gender relationships in the west (misandry), but is so scared that prefer to hide his head in the sand and repeat feminist mantras in order to calm himself down “i am a man, we rule the world. We need to help women, this is not happening”.
2. You are feminist swine.
He’s actually a divorced troll who promotes p4p.
I agree with you. I have no clue why these guys seem to hate women. Women are awesome but they just want different things. No reason to be mad at them. Just understand them and work around it.
Just because you have a daughter, it’s no reason to be a mangina. Remember, just like you have a daughter people have sons too. And if people are angry at something, anger doesn’t just magically appear out of nowhere. There must be something unsavoury going on which sparked the dissent.
Or if it hurts your feelings that much, why bother reading the damn comments?
lol. Mangina? Are you retarded?
And why would my feelings be hurt? Like I said before…keep up the grind if you want or open your eyes to what’s true and make things a million times easier.
My point about anger is that it clouds judgement (case in point most of your comments) and bad judgement causes bad decisions. I was simply suggesting a view based on facts and logic instead of one based in anger and irrationality.
Based on facts, rationality and compromise. Problem with that is that when you compromise too much, thats when party’s over. And no, your view was not ONLY based on the above but also derived from your own own personal beliefs. but then so did everyone.
As for anger, I’ll tell you that I am angry. Most of us seem to be. But what I am not is Irrational. For instance, a lot of people on this site view “faggots” with absolute loathing and to an extent its understandable. We are after all dealing with a deliberate attempt by feminists and mass media to suppress the masculine ideal and gay people don’t just stand for a certain sexual orientation, they are a symbol.
I myself would puke at the the thought of gay sex and engaging in any typical gay mannerism. Also, I believe that pre-pubescent boys must be shielded from such influences in order to avoid as much as possible the the spread of homosexuality in men. After all, hetero is how it’s meant to be by nature.
I wrote as much in a post. Also what I wrote was that the people who are already gay past the point of no return actively collude with feminists, becoming blue pill traitors acting against their own sex. This often happens because the heterosexual male community usually views them with contempt. This in turn drives them only into the hands of our enemies. What I proposed was that such men should be, instead of ostracised, educated by as as how to go about their sexual likes and yet conduct themselves in a way that has a minimum level of masculinity. In this way, even if they don’t work with us, they won’t work against us in collusion with feminist agencies (Good Men project). Educate them, tolerate them, don’t promote them.Tell me, is this not getting above the prevalent opinion and thinking rationally.
For this someone foolishly alleged I was Gay.
You may wonder why I brought this up. Reason one, you blamed of being irrational. I may be angry, I’m not irrational.
Reason two, I wan’t other people reading this forum ponder on the matter.