Here at Return of Kings we realize that we have a lot of female readers. On rare occasions, we offer them our world-class advice, considering that the masculine and the feminine are innately linked together. You cannot raise or lower one without doing the same to the other. Therefore, it is in our best interest for you ladies to be the best you that you can be.
Many women complain about how hard it is to get men to notice them in online dating. Having been on these sites myself, I find that women usually vomit their thoughts onto paper and hope a guy “just loves me for who I am,” as though the stars will bring them one by virtue of wanting one. But in the grown-up world, no one cares about you as an individual. All relationships are innately transactional, and you’ve got to bring something to the table beyond your charming personality (or lack thereof).
I’ve found that internet dating is like a thrift store: lots of junk that needs to be discarded, but once in a while you’ll find something you love. Ladies, you do not get to decide what men find attractive in women any more than men get to decide what women find attractive in them. Men like two things in women: 1) pretty girls 2) who are pleasant to be around. You will need to present yourself as both.
Pretty Girls
All the make-up and hair-styling will not do you any good if you are overweight. Men are not interested in “big beautiful women” who are “curvy,” even if they only have “a few extra pounds.” If you only post a headshot, we can still tell. Don’t insult us.
If this describes you, make sure you write that you exercise five times a week. Lie if you need to, because at least then you won’t look lazy and gluttonous. But really, you can find thirty minutes a day in your lonely single life to hit the treadmill. If you are not overweight, write about exercising anyway and post a full body picture. Your full body picture should vary based on what you desire: if you want a cheap hook-up, then wear a bikini or the shortest shorts money can buy from Wal-Mart.
If you want a long term relationship, however, then wear a dress. It should be something conservative and slightly formal (i.e. don’t dress like a hippie). However, one mistake I often find with these girls is that they often don’t post a clear picture of their face. I can still tell they are probably attractive, but their inattention to detail has not been lost on me, and I make a mental note to condition it out later.
Grow your hair long, and don’t wear sweatpants in any of your photos. Use makeup, but don’t use so much that it is the only thing he will notice. The way you present yourself to the world says a lot about you as a person.
Who Are Pleasant To Be Around
I realize you were told to be what you want in someone else, but they were referring to virtues like honesty and selflessness, not personality traits. “im funny sarcastic and always have a great wit” is code for “obnoxious.” Very few women are actually funny, and men don’t expect that from them anyway. This is a classic example of women thinking men want what they themselves want. Even if a woman really can make a man laugh, it doesn’t help her much. Ladies, cut learning this trait out of your life, and certainly don’t fake it. On the off chance that you naturally have it, use it sparingly. No man wants to bang the class clown.
Mention that you like cooking. Again, feel free to lie. Take a night in your lonely single life and learn to make one dish really well. After two or three times, take a picture of yourself with it. Post it on your profile but not as your main picture, since the extra pictures are supposed to be the day-to-day real you. Now not only do you have something to contribute to parties and family reunions, but you have something to impress him with on the second date. Yes, it’s sexist and patriarchal, but you have a choice: You can either be an independent, liberated woman and queen of the cats, or you can attract men on internet dating.
Above all, do not be weird. When OKCupid says “6 Things I Could Never Live Without,” do not take that literally. You would be amazed at all the girls who write “chapstick.” This absolutely baffles me. Does chapstick have some special use off the label? Does it cure the common cold? Why are your lips constantly chapped? Are you just that neurotic and obsessive compulsive? It’s like all the women in the country got together in the bathroom and decided to pull a prank on the men.
Do not mention animals in your profile. There are a variety of theories for why this is, but it is a red flag to men when a woman loves animals. If you have four diabetic cats all named after the Beatles, save that for after you’ve been on a few dates. Even if your dog is the most important thing in your life, he won’t be offended if you betray him by pretending he doesn’t exist for a few weeks.
If you are a feminist, into women’s lib, or a women’s studies major, do not mention that until the fifth date after you’ve already cooked for him and generally shown you are not crazy. There’s a strong stigma attached with those labels, and claiming them will make a man go running for more patriarchal girls. Even saying “I believe in equality for both sexes” usually translates into “men are pigs.” Unfair maybe, but such is the world of marketing.
As a final note about writing your profile, people will judge you by your grammar. You will look stupid and lazy if you don’t even capitalize the first word of a sentence. People will overlook not using “whom,” but you cannot claim that you should be valued for your personality when you’re not smarter than a fifth grader. Also, put a lot of detail in your profile. Don’t write a dissertation, but don’t merely write “if u want to know anything just ask :).”
Interacting
So you’ve placed your strategic advertisement and cast out lines. Now what? The woman in that article only picked ten men at a time. How entitled! You are on internet dating because you have failed in real life. You do not get to be picky. Cast out a line to every guy who might conceivably be what you are looking for. It does not hurt you to message back and forth with someone. For all you know, he might be as bad at crafting a profile as you were. And if you are divorced, an unwed mother, or past your 20s, then you need to greatly expand your upper age limit.
The days of courting are over. A guy will not spend a lot of money on the first date because he doesn’t know if the investment will pay off. When he takes you out to Captain D’s, dress nice anyway. Not prom nice or even church nice, but certainly better than you dress for school. Let your hair hang down and consider a dress. Basically, look like something he’d want to make love to, whether in the near future or not until after the wedding. It’s concerning how women dress like men and then complain when men aren’t attracted to them. Feminine females get masculine men.
Don’t brag about your education or work accomplishments, because we aren’t turned on by them. Seriously, we aren’t, even if we ask you about them. Your leadership skills are irrelevant unless they involve small children. Even if a man says, “I want a confident career woman,” he’s only parroting that because he was told to. Remember, you do not get to choose what men find attractive in women. There’s a golden moderation between being strong and being clingy, and it’s skewed a bit closer to the clingy side.
Finally, do not play hard to get. Again, this is women thinking men like what women like. If you like a guy, be very easy to get. This does not mean be easy to bang but just to non-verbally communicate you want to be with him. If a guy thinks you are not interested, he will likely move on to the next girl. The world is full of pretty young girls, and he will take the path of least resistance.
Conclusion
Follow this advice, and you’ll have actual success on internet dating. My goal in this article is not to convince you to give up your soft-feminist values but merely to consider how you market yourself. Presentation is key in any advertising, and the sexual economy works much the same as the financial economy. If you put effort into your physical appearance and try to have the persona a man would want to be around, then men will notice your femininity, even if unconsciously. A man does not go onto those sites to look for a dude to hang with. You will never be his bro. Be what men want, and you will finally feel wanted.
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Women are finding it difficult to find men when it comes to online dating?
GOOD. Most women I have encountered when it comes to researching profiles in the world of online dating, have some of the worst personalities I have have seen. Here are some of the kind of facts that they mention:
I want a man who:
-Treats me right
-Has his own place, doesn’t live with his mama
-Doesn’t live with his roommates
-Knows how to make me laugh and doesn’t disappoint me
-Takes me out whenever I want
Yeah, because in a relationship, everythings about you right? WRONG.
The amount of narcissism and self absorbed characteristics in regards to women in the world of online dating is shocking and beyond belief. Heck, they even have to mention their salaries and careers on their profiles (I shit you not.)
Which is why more men are now walking away from the world of dating altogether and listening to more PUA and shows like Leykis 101. The reality is, if women cannot find good men, then its because we chose to walk away from all the bullshit and drama these fake bitches keep bringing into our lives.
I once found this reality frustrating, but now I realize the world is vast. There are thousands of women waiting for a good man who appreciate and values his hard work and seeks to compliment him instead of competing with him. What goes around comes around, the thing is when you are up in life what will you do when a stranger revisits your life? Or will you seek what is truly yours…and what you deserve.
Good point. A man should always “swing for the fence” meaning you have to be picky when it comes to women. You need to “be the prize”…not the other way around, men.
I find this mentality works best for me. I don’t “settle” for women below a certain caliber because she needs to meet my standards…not the other way around.
Soft men, today, have given away too much. They have let women control everything and in the end they are left with the “bottom of the bargain barrel” women.
Chances are that they are the pathetic spawn of single/divorced feminist mothers, that possess a penis but no masculinity or pride, and nothing else.
IOW, the kind of “man” that feminists have made with their feminism, and what they SAY that they want.
Exactly many western women don’t meet a standard and are hypocritical. Something that I particularly dislike is the women who reject you in their 20s and have the time of their lives and then want you to settle for them some having kids already. There is also the phenomena of women looking for elite males are settling for the bottom of the ladder males. Foreign Born or traditionally raised women appreciate men of integrity, respect, and responsibility. Even if I gain the fame and the riches that will grant me all the beautiful western women I will still choose a traditional woman. Better possibility of a long successful and loving marriage.
Agree. It’s always socially acceptable to say what women want in a man. What they really want in a man is the total opposite. They can’t come to terms with this reality because it would shatter their whole existence in the first place.
Again, I have never seen an online dating profile that would read “looking for a total asshole”. Many want that so badly but will not admit it. They’ll stay with this particular man for years without wondering “why”.
That very statement is why I appreciate Return of Kings in real life.
Online dating is just a reflection of real-world dating, except even more cruel, even more skewed in women’s favor (much higher male-to-female ratio), and even more full of thirsty betas. Those women you speak of are narcissistic because they can be. They still get loads of messages from guys who have no self-respect. A lot of the time guys just give up and message “let’s fuck” to random girls. A lot of which are hideously ugly and fat. They (girls) take that as interest, when it’s really just a guy randomly messaging people without even looking at their profiles.
Some of the world’s worst white knight garbage also live off the sites. Damaged goods skanks both married and discarded will reply to the ‘let’s fuck’ intro or the like and the mental cases among them just want someone to yap to about their problems. The white knight bums have all day to spam with their government issued welfare smartphones and the fat crazy slobs are ready to cuckold them. Many trying and short lived lowly matches made IN HELL result.
A narcissistic chick doesn’t even need to bother with online dating sites. She can just dress like a slut and put the pics on FB or instagram and a horde of thirsty beta males will start to message her. Heck, there’s this pretty Russian chick I know who’s modeling and also studying basic accounting and she posted a request for help with accounting studies on her FB page. Within 15 min, she had more than 30 or 40 replies from beta males all rushing to be her private tutor for free. Even though she said she’ll actually pay for tuition! I think one guy even went so far as to tell her that he’ll hire as as his intern in his firm so she can gain working experience.
Sometimes not even FB or instagram is enough.
This is one of the many reasons I hate this online dating sites. You have 100 guys on 1 girl and that leads 5s to 9-10s behaviour. This also leads to “let’s meet each other through messaging” ritual (because as I said 100s of men message her) which lasts weeks and even months is irritating. I just don’t have the patience to chat with someone I don’t know just to raise her ego. And by the way. The girls who appear in dating sites are commonly ugly / ex-sluts (or lone mamas) / with shitty personality etc. Of-course there’re exceptions but they are extremely rare.
I’ve been thinking about creating an online dating profile that says nothing but “I’m going to destroy you” with a picture of me smirking like a psychopath. I figure I need a couple more months to get looking a little more physically intimidating before I go ahead with it, but I’m really looking forward to seeing how it works out.
Maybe you will do well…
yeah, i think that could work well too. hopefully you’ll report back.
I plan on it.
Girls like bad boys I think it’s a winner.
You’ll certainly attract the hybristophiliacs, and there are a lot of them.
Dammit, you made me learn a new vocabulary word.
In ancient times this would not exist. The psychopaths faced swift justice and capital punishment, the females a padded wall room and a straitjacket. Problem fixed – until “human rights” PC bs took over.
That would be an interesting social experiment. Create a fake profile on okcupid with a scary as hell persona. See how many “nice” girls you attract.
Charles Manson got himself a (relative) child bride. No reason you can’t do almost as well.
Hell yea, I tried online after refusing to do so for while not fully realizing why I gave it up. Sub-par chicks want such unrealistic expectations. One wrong slip and it’s game over. I get there are a bunch or thirsty guys that’ll spoil it but damn. Most women profiles only have a picture with tits hanging out pretending to have a cultured personality but don’t, what’s a man supposed to do?
I absolutely love internet dating. The only time the date pays for dinner/drinks is if I think he’s bangable otherwise we split the bill.
I never list “I want a man who….” in my profile. I just describe me. If they’re interested they’ll contact me. If not, no loss.
I also don’t understand the whole thing about a woman cooking for a man. When do I do this and why? Is it a second date thing, third date thing? It makes no sense to me. I need clarification on this (although I have no objection to a man cooking for me).
I’ve had great experiences with online dating I think because my expectations are reasonable. That’s the best approach – reasonable expectations.
I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t seen it myself – some narcissistic cunt on OkC has taken a smiling selfie in front of a coffin at a funeral as her profile pic!
So you’re partly right…not just everything in a relationship is about her…every life or death situation is about her!
But you’re dead right about the narcissism – pardon the pun.
Online dating is the definition of risk. I just don’t see how anyone who is a reader of this site can find anything of value from it.
Love your avatar, love the Bhagavad Gita! Hindu Religion has a lot of great messages. Krishna is my favorite.
It’s just another “tool in the toolbox.” I don’t think anyone on ROK endorses it as the sole, much less primary, option.
If it’s a tool, it’s a double-ended screwdriver with no handle. It might be useful in certain occasions but most often you’re just going to wind up screwing yourself.
Naw. Just use it like a spider uses a web… while you are off doing your regular thing.
It should be that one dull razorblade in your cache while you rely on your
Browning M1911 & your Ka-Bar.
If I ever create another online dating profile, there will be a link to this article.
Just a few things I’ve noticed…
Don’t use the profile section as a place to list out 150 requirements without saying anything about what you will contribute to the relationship or makes you desirable in any way. This happens way too much.
Hide your tats. Take out your nose piercing and your two eyebrow piercings for your pic.
Don’t post a pic with you and a guy even if it’s your brother.
No swearing in your profile.
I’m a fairly decent looking guy..And I’ve sampled both Okc and Pof..I’ve noticed not only do 4’s and 5’s act like they’re 9’s but the 9’s are very few and are receiving so many messages a day that you have a better chance of winning the lottery then getting her to respond to you..And were not even talking about keeping her interest..Just a simple reply..I’ve banged a few 5’s and one 7-1/2 in a 3 month off and on visit to these sites..I have to say that not only is it a waste of precious time because these bitches are beyond delusional, crazy and stuck up, but its also a cruel reminder of the fact that these women have drones of men at disposal who compliment and feed their ego daily which only makes the problem 10xs worse..It doesn’t matter how you look or how much money..These whores have so many options that unless your very wealthy or famous, your just another guy trying to talk to them…I pump and dump as a lifestyle for this very reason…I will never trust or love any creature that seeks to destroy me, my sanity, my savings and is obviously disloyal and wicked..Some say I’m bitter….I swallowed the red pill at 16 years old..I’m 32 now..Ain’t too much I ain’t seen or heard or been through with these creatures.
This is about it. Online dating is, for most guys, a waste of time for exactly the reasons you mention..
Mistral
A lot of those 8’s and 9’s are nothing more than bot and spammer accounts. Sometimes, if you grab the URL of the pics and run them through Tineye you can find where they got the pic from.
A lot of the 9’s are fake profiles. I once browsed through a list of ‘matches’ and opened up a few of the really hot ones, then did a reverse google image search. Sure enough, 2-3 of them were taken straight from pictures of models from various sites (halfway across the world and in a foreign language, so no chance of them being the same person).
And a lot of the ones that aren’t fake profiles are just attention whores who love to bathe in the endless stream of (literally) hundreds of messages each day. It’s all confirmation and adoration. It’s like crack to them.
Validation is the manna narcissists crave.
Fat girls are extremely skilled at appearing slim online, even in full body shots. I nearly told a girl to go home once when she turned up to the bar and was fat despite having attractive pictures, but I couldn’t bring myself to be so cruel. Also:
“its also a cruel reminder of the fact that these women have drones of men at disposal”
You’ve nailed it there. I think I hate thirsty betas more than I hate feminists.
This is true. I tried the online dating thing a while back. A few girls were so drastically different from their profiles I was embarrassed to be seen with them in public.
Yeah, 9 out of 10 times, that’s the case. The girl is almost never as good looking in person as she is in the pictures. Sometimes the disparity will be so great you’ll want to ask how she did it.
After you took the selfie, you gained 50 lbs, pulled your teeth out, went months without washing your hair, and smashed your face with a frying pan?
“Sometimes the disparity will be so great you’ll want to ask how she did it.”
LOL!
À bientôt,
Mistral
Magic! Lighting and makeup.
Time has no meaning to an online flirt. So, the pictures they present will be the best out of years.
There is a reason photos of BigFoot are blurry.
Stop wondering how she did it. Just flat out ask her right there and then loud enough for all to hear.
Yeah and I don’t know why they think the bait & switch technique will work out for them. Businesses do it so that when you show up you’ll say “ahh well, fuck it I’m already here.” Maybe that’s what these girls are aiming for. Come to think of it, I think I actually have fucked a few 4s who were represented as 8s and up in their profiles. Especially if she’s over a 30 minute drive away. You didn’t drive that far for nothing, so you close your eyes, take your pump and dump, and go home. Then you regret it because in hindsight, you would have rather just jacked off than to have the mental image of her in your head.
Though I can’t say this works anymore because my personal boner test has gotten a lot more selective over the years.
Next time bring a brown paper bag to put over her head…and down a six pack.
Lol at the frying pan! True comment though.
If I see one more bitch rock climbing, duck facing, swimming, sitting at a restaurant table, posing with her stupid fucking friends, looking at her smart phone, laying with her fucking cat or dog, and mentioning looking for “the one” while showing off her clevage at the same time, I’m gonna fucking puke
Hey this works for guys too. I called a guy out once when his profile pic was 15yrs younger than his actual age.
works both ways – for the guys with their outdated profile pics.
I don’t date other guys, so I couldn’t care less.
You poor thing. The only choice you had was to reply to one of the other 100 thirsty dudes who messaged you that week.
120, but who’s counting
Because the photographer’s jerking off?
I came to the exact same conclusion. The power of pussy is easily observable on those sites. Combine that with female indecisiveness, her dwindling sexual market value, rampant female narcissism, unrealistically high standards, drastic overestimation of the role her career plays in sexual selection, and hypergamy; and you’ve got a recipe for spinsterhood and the inevitable extinction of the white race. Nice to see someone else articulate my same thoughts.
Online dating, expertly butchered. You nailed it.
Battleship = Sunk.
À bientôt,
Mistral
They say that “you’re bitter” because you’ve seen the Truth, and are not afraid to say so.
“In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — George Orwell
In these times, telling the truth is also a courageous act.
Correct. Online for entertainment value only. Pump and dump away.
Female friend of mine had a profile on a dating site, and the picture she used was her from 12 (twelve) years ago. Wonder what the expressions are on the guys face is like when he meets her in real life…
This one: “I just threw up a little bit into my mouth.”
À bientôt,
Mistral
that’s low for her – but if a guy is going to overlook or somehow not notice that the photo is a few years old (there’s always a tell somewhere) then I put it in the “learn from it boy” basket.
That’s like that one scene from Cheech and Chong Up in Smoke where Chong dressed up like a woman to hook Cheech to hitch a ride. Classic.
guys do the same thing with their profile pics!
I would add, don’t post a pic with you and another girl so you can’t tell who’s profile it is.
Oh sure you can: one girl will be hotter than the other; it’s not her profile.
À bientôt,
Mistral
A long list if requirements is ridiculous and self centred…
Of course it is, but that’s the Monkey talkin’….
À bientôt,
Mistral
“Don’t use the profile section as a place to list out 150 requirements….”
Agree. I see this shit happening too much. Women will list out what they want or expect…it’s fucking ridiculous. While many men (thirsty men) are just expecting a decent response from a woman for saying “hi”…no cat calling.
Men need to take back their control and stop being so fucking soft. Women are like children and they’ll continue to push the limits (get away with anything) until men put a stop to that shit.
Be a woman, be feminine, stay in shape, self sufficient, as you say pleasant to be around, and don’t crazy….
Be a women- FAIL
Be feminine- FAIL
Stay in shape- FAIL
Pleasant to be around and not crazy-EXTRA FAIL
Self sufficient- WIN! WIN! WIN! “Its always about my career, my career and my career!” Fucking hell, now women are adding how much they earn to their dating profiles.
And yet, they are always asking “where are all the good men”, like somehow, its our fault.
Well there’s always a catch.
There is a man behind each of those “independent” and “self sufficient” women. Having high-powered careers and big salaries these days unfortunately says nothing anymore about the level of competency or skills. Especially not with females who are getting enabled, coddled, bailed out, and shielded from those pesky things called consequences, from grade school all the way to the corporate world.
The love to put down that they are independent and they’ve learned they don’t need a man. Yet for some reason they are on a dating site. Some of these women really do bring home big salaries, when that happens they become less appealing. How is a man going to have any type of long term relationship with a woman who makes 100k per year to his humble 40k per year job?
How you ask?
“I’m just a gigolo.”
So no men like big women? So what about the many guys who do?… I’m confused.
Not many. Your chance of getting a high value male fishing in that pond is pretty small.
The thing is I know many hmvs in that pond. Successful, powerful, physically fit dudes. Not just in the states, but abroad.
If you had a choice, which would you pick?
Thought so.
“Jake” writes like a girl.
LOL! If “Jake” is a girl, she should ask herself if she prefers a thin Victoria Secrets model in a sexy lingerie on the store window or a Jabba the Hut beast in the same lingerie?
Funny how they complain about men not finding fat women attractive yet they themselves don’t find fat women attractive.
They want complete control of the narrative; they want to decide for men what’s attractive and what not. The feminine imperative doesn’t care about double standards.
The feminine imperative also doesn’t understand that taking “complete control of the narrative” in every aspect of life and society, will fucking DOOM the lives of their children.
Nikola Teslas they are not.
Which children? Birthrates are plummeting.
There may be hope for us yet.
I think “Jake” is actually Jane.
Dude I haven’t even answered. I’ve got cousins and neighbor guys who like that. I happen to like petite thick girls.
‘I’ve got cousins and neighbor guys who like that. I happen to like petite thick girls.’
No objection whatsoever from the red-pillers here, the more men VOLUNTARILY prefer werewhales over playmates, the better.
Petite thick girls? Isn’t that an oxymoron? Jumbo shrimp.
LOL! Oxymoron it most certainly is is, but “jake” is just a straight up moron/female(no difference)
Is that the new politically correct term for short and fat woman? Petite thick…
there is a big difference between men who genuinely find big women attractive vs. the guy who has a fatty-fatty-two-by-four-can’t-fit-through-the-kitchen-door for a girlfriend but either has to jack off to slender pornstars or basically replay said porno in his head because she gives him a raging soft-on. one is voluntary choice the other is settling, and not even partially happy.
Agreed.
Men who like big girls are living in the peak moment of history and it’s only getting better. They must think they have the best game in the world because when they see a target they get the girl every time. I could not imagine a lover of big women even asking for advice on game. That would be like a rock star asking some kid who is the king of World of Warcraft how to meet girls.
But since we are all individuals, don’t we all have our own tastes?
No. Men no like big women. A few sexy curves, of course. But obese? Fuck. No.
All generalizations are wrong, including this one. – Mark Twain.
Mark Twain didn’t have to deal with all of today’s feminism bullshit or else he’d agree with me.
So there were no women’s rights movements of the 19th Century? My teachers must’ve been wrong!!
Also, so awesome that you know exactly what Mark Twain would’ve thought considering he’s dead. You two must’ve been BFF
If you only post a headshot, we can still tell.
Not always. I see girls with really good looking faces and when I scan them down – complete disaster.
If you can only see the face, then assume the worst.
Addendum; IF you can only see the face and IF that is the only type they go for………be oh so very afraid. also chicks who put their photos on private, even if it says “slim” or “fit” watch out for adams apple or snaggletooth or something like that.
…and especially if the shot is from above their heads to hide the double or triple chin.
Heh, Myspace will be remembered for something after all.
Being pleasant to be around is kind of an art.
A least in the context of seduction since there are countless little cues and actions that are hard to notice but provide huge boons
The most vexing thing I experienced with women when using online dating sites is the flakiness that occurs AFTER what appeared to be a strong initial connection. You start chatting with a new women and your game is tight so they get excited and respond fairly quickly with messages they put effort into….then out of nowhere they disappear or start taking forever to respond. That’s why I believe a very large number of women (at least 50%) are online just for the attention or they are “curious” but have no intention of ever meeting anyone. So the moment they get even slightly bored chatting with you it’s over and they will move on to the next guy. I stopped using online dating sites when I realized the number of hours of time required for success was simply not worth it.
Hence the pump and dump method. Just like how they feel like they’ve been used like a piece of meat, you feel like you’ve been used (of your time and effort).
A few of them pretty much say this up-front. “Just want to see what this online dating thing is about; not serious” is code for “I have no intention of ever meeting anyone on this site in person.” Any initial interest is just to sucker you in and make you feel like there is going to be something for you later… when there isn’t and never was. You’ve been friend-zoned, deal with it.
If you have used online dating after a while certain phrases have their translations; key among them is the a) “I don’t know what i’m looking for”, b) “friends and see what happens” or c) “just want to see what it is about” can be translated as:
a) I’m on here out of boredom, or my friend signed me up, or I had a weak moment where the ripple effect of my past decisions have made me about two cats short of batshit insane……but I still have my standards
b) This is my “get out of jail free” card, no matter what happens, how many guys get attached or I bang I can cut you loose at a moments notice and I warned you beforehand. But I will gladly accept you showering me with gifts and praise and play along until it suits.
c) I will use my profile as another “how hot am I?” and gossip fodder for when I have my weekly drinkies with my besties and discuss new ways of disseminating and destroying the English language.
“or when I have my weekly drinkies with my besties and discuss new ways of disseminating and destroying the English language.”
heh.
Found an easy way to screen for that;
“so I was thinking we just hang out as friends???”
“hahaha…….oh wait you’re serious, let me laugh harder; HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA”
N.B. – for maximum effectiveness make sure you do it in a public place, then walk away doing one of those 50’s style jazz taps with your feet.
There could be something else at play. If you rely chiefly on “tight game” as your selling point, and you arent’ a paper alpha to the same degree, this could lead to buyer’s remorse.
If you’ve got tight game, they’re almost expecting you to be Brad Pitt in real life as well. Once they get a hint that you really aren’t, it’s on to the next prospect/attention fix.
“…I stopped using online dating sites when I realized the number of hours of time required for success was simply not worth it.”
Ironically, this is a reflection of any kind of interaction with Western Womyn on any level — it is simply a pointless and worthless activity.
The drop-off is because she started talking to her friends who said she shouldn’t do it.
Woman listen to their equally clueless friends when it comes to dating.
I’ll never forget when my female friends encourage me to make amends with a man who was stalking me. They thought I was exaggerating the situation. They thought any male attention is good attention.
I ignored them and went with my father’s advice. Which was him escorting me to the car after my night classes. I find an amazing difference in understanding.
Me: I have a stalker.
Most men: Let me escort. We’ll keep an eye out for the bastard. *pumps fist*
Most women: Are you sure? Is he really stalking you? Maybe if you just meet with alone and talk it out you’ll find it’s all a misunderstanding. What makes you think he’s stalking you?
Me: He broke into my car. He tried to follow me. He asked YOU for where I live.
Most of my female friends: Maybe he just really likes you.
Me *beating head against wall*
One of my ex-friends actually gave my stalker my information despite swearing never to. I was livid when I eventually found out and her sputtering defense was “I just thought you should give him a chance”.
Me: What? To kill me?
I found men spot-on when it comes to recognizing dangerous signs in other men. I didn’t have to explain or plead my case that I was being stalked. Almost all the men were immediately on my side and ready to help.
Whereas, I found women just don’t understand bad signs in men. They couldn’t understand why I was “exaggerating” things and wouldn’t make peace with the guy.
Women thought of the stalking as just a sign of “undying love” toward me.
It was sickening.
they’re probably married.
“If you are a feminist, into women’s lib, or a women’s studies major, do not mention that until the fifth date after you’ve already cooked for him and generally shown you are not crazy. ”
Let me fix this for you: “If you are a feminist, into women’s lib, or a women’s studies major, delete your profile and go un-fuck yourself–and that specifically means transferring OUT of women’s studies and into something useful. Stop wasting your dad’s money. Once you have learned to be FEMININE not FEMINIST, come back and put a new profile up. Of course, if you do that, you probably won’t have to resort to online dating, b/c guys will beat a path to your door.”
Some time ago, a 21 y.o. girl I know asked me for some advice on finding a husband, as she is a serious Christian and wants to get married and have kids in her mid-20s (earlier would be find, I think, but she wants to pre-qualify the guy as a non-loser, which is fair.) So I asked her if she knew how to cook. She said, “Not really”. So I told her, “Learn. You will so differentiate yourself from the majority of young women who can manage to burn water that you will have guys lined up outside your apartment. And you will be able to enjoy delicious meals yourself while you are waiting for Mr. Right to appear.” Sorted.
À bientôt,
Mistral
It’s pretty sad (the cooking thing) and it’s such an easy “fix”.
So many women have bought into this “no cooking” thing because of society and feminism. It’s a fucking sham.
Anything that is done to improve yourself (man or woman) is a plus.
“cooking”
YES. I have wondered about my female friends who can’t get a guy to stick around. Seriously, be a damn fine cook. The saying goes, “The way to a man’s heart is through his stomach” is VERY true.
One of my aunts was an amazing cook. No matter what their fight earlier in the day my uncle was guaranteed to be home by 6pm. He would not miss one of their meals for nothing.
She knew he’d never leave her, because to leave her was to leave the best damn meals he’d ever eat.
Even players can’t resist good cooking. I’ve seen guys mention that while this other chick they banged was dynamite in bed, the woman they stuck with was the one who could keep them sated breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
It’s hilarious how many guys might schedule their rondavues with a certain woman around meal times if he knows she is a wiz in the kitchen.
Feminists are stupid to have shunned the power of cooking over men.
I’m guessing the sex was good too. It wasn’t just the cooking.
These were older relatives. I really didn’t want to think of them in that context. *shudder*. As far as I was considered the stork delivered all their kids.
well one day you’ll be an old person too so I guess that’s one more thing to shudder about 🙂
If a woman is not fat and do exercise regularly, she wouldn’t need online dating sites.
There is really a 3 step program for women who want a b/f or husband (I stole two of the three from Roosh and added the first one, and embellished the third.).
1. If you are a bitch, stop being a bitch.
2. Do everything you can to improve your appearance.
3. Lower your standards. By this I mean, take your 1472 item “must have” checklist and set it on fire. The only thing that counts in a future husband is *character*, full stop, that’s it, the end.
I think the “constantly sarcastic” girl, who may not intend to be bitchy, still may need to work on #1, b/c that shit can wear a guy down, particularly a high-functioning beta, which some girls might be happy with. I regard sarcasm as invitation for some OTK discipline, but then I think that about most anything a girl does that does not fall under the category of “sweet/feminine”. ;-D
À bientôt,
Mistral
Unfortunately for them this requires identifying and removing societal conditioning, which can be tantamount to losing faith in or switching a religion.
More easily said than done.
The first step in any recovery is recognizing the existence of a problem…
That’s going to be a problem because the media and society brainwashes them daily that WE men are the problem. The fucked up shit is that they believe it along with all those white knight betas.
I’m convinced women will never be able to make these kind of changes for themselves. Circumstances must dictate their behavior. Until they are forced to see that sexual interest =/= relationship interest, that feminine attracts masculine & what exactly feminine behavior is (most of them don’t have a clue), why their choices make them less appealing, and when outside restraints necessitate Average Jane’s reliance upon Average Joe (and consequently her view of him as powerful, and therefore, attractive) nothing will improve.
First came legal equality, then came political equality, then came economic & educational equality, then came social/cultural equality, and then lastly the final barrier, sexual equality. We are now supposedly all equal. Under these circumstances, given a woman’s natural tendencies, Average Jane can/will never find Average Joe appealing. She will consistently be lead astray, by society and by her own foolish head.
There will be no solution, until the forces that uphold this illusory equality are removed.
Bingo. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
This should be required reading for every woman on dating sites.
I’ve been off and on POF and OKC this year, with mixed results. But last year was my best year ever. I banged 17 women from these sites, all ranging in from 5s to 8s. From the ages of 23 to 45 (I’m 36). Also, a good 5 or so that I met could have been closed had the logistics been better.
Now, this required a SHIT-LOAD of work. I work from home, so was able to spend a considerable amount of time on these sites. It’s very time consuming. Also, one needs to do a lot of weeding out of the ones who aren’t looking for a ONS or hook-up, and finding the ones who are (or, at least, able to be convinced). I needed to be very aggressive (before the meet, not during) about what my intentions were.
I started to become ruthless when I realised my nice-guy persona with these women and a polite little date ended with the “no chemistry” text later that night.
I’d say perhaps 4 or 5 that I met would have been girlfriend material. The vast majority were damaged goods with tons of baggage. The 8s, 9s, and 10s, are virtually untouchable. I have no idea who they are dating or whose messages they are responding to..
This year I have banged 5. I have not put in the same amount of work. Also, I tend to think these sites have had their day (the reputation of a site like POF has been pretty well established now, especially in the UK). The quality (if you could ever have called it that) has diminished significantly. There are a lot of very entitled girls on these sites wielding all sorts of pseudo-power.
And the tattoos. God, the tattoos.
“The 8s, 9s, and 10s, are virtually untouchable. I have no idea who they are dating or whose messages they are responding to..”
They are in it solely for the attention and for the feel of power on the sexual market place. They don’t have to go online for access to quality guys, they are coming to them. Carousel commodities aplenty.
The 8’s and up are almost always bot and spammer accounts.
Yep. You notice it with Tineye. And you also notice that the majority of women in a given area are butt ugly, but then there are all these other hotties (8-9) who you’ve never seen in your community that supposedly live there.
I call BS on internet dating. It’s the last resort for beta simps who cannot or will not approach.
And it lets the women you wouldn’t even notice in a nightclub, get all sorts of male attention, from males who’d never have the balls to approach in person.
Loser’s game.
Winners need not play.
Here’s a hack for POF – occasionally delete your profile and start a new one (new email addy, new ip, clear cookies, etc).
I did that just this week, and how I’m getting significantly more view and unsolicited emails – from 7’s, no less. The algorithm makes you way more visible if you are “new”.
I noticed that too. I think the idea is if you haven’t upgraded after 2 weeks or so, they figure you probably never will, and therefore you are useless to them.
“And the tattoos. God, the tattoos.”
Which is why so many men have seriously given up on looking to with a Western women.
“Personality: Tattooed/Pierced”
Translation: black hole.
“And the tattoos. God, the tattoos.”
i hear you. that’s a problem in the UK too? one thing i loved about honduras when i lived there is that tattoos are strictly for criminals or at least wannabees in honduran culture. maybe if you’re in a rock band. other than that no honduran, male or female, who wants to present himself as respectable gets tattoos, ever.
Those 8s and above are that “shiny new car” to get you in the door.
You’re going home with a 5 or 6 at best (used, high mileage sled that they need to sell).
insightful. others mentioned spambots, but a fair number are probably just plain company-made glitter/glamor accounts made to upsell lesser stock. don’t know why it didn’t occur to me before.
most social networking sites did this to boot strap themselves: give the impression that they’re in demand by making user shell accounts, all made by the company. don’t have to use bots. reddit, okc, pof, all did this. but reddit stopped, and i imagine most flesh peddler sites don’t have that luxury.
“…The vast majority were damaged goods with tons of baggage.”
I used to say that “womyn today don’t have ‘baggage’ anymore, they have ‘freight’.”
No longer — womyn now have CARGO!
Advice for women… on Return of Kings?
Has this last refuge for men in the west been hijacked?
Would your life as a red pill man be easier if women followed these tips? Mine would.
“I had a dream…”
On another note..
Women: if you have ANY femininity left in you…
If you’re interested, show openness of character. Be a part in building trust. Ask questions about this man. The last woman I dated did that, and her type is very rare on the internet, more so with each passing day – at least in my experience.
By the same token, when you’re “not feeling it” in any way, shape or form, early on in an interaction with a man, and you interacting just because #bored, say No. Say you’re not interested. Be simply clear without being obnoxious. And don’t say “sorry”; what use is it in patronizing men?
If you’re interested, show openness of character. Be a part in building trust. Ask questions about this man. The last woman I dated did that, and her type is very rare on the internet, more so with each passing day – at least in my experience.
A masculine man will be able to deal with that, and a man who is still learning about female nature will much probably need it if he is to improve.
Both outcomes are infinitely better in my opinion than the pretence, suggestion, and then flaking that most females show to potential mates. It serves no-one and brings nothing but a waste of time and mental energy – but then again, the females who engage on this behaviour are self-absorbed and narcissistic – one of the symptoms of acute feminism.
Okay, but how often are they “not feeling it” with a guy who is *above* them in SMV?
Hypergamy, as usual, is the real culprit here, more so than a lack of honesty.
No matter what the motive… If she lies about it, then that’s the real problem
Exactly – flaking and lying should be a key red-flag, no matter how small it shows her character; that she would rather lie to avoid one outcome than tell the truth and deal with the other.
once you catch her lying about one thing it then sets the tone – that everything she says to you is possibly a lie.
I have advicee. Reed article but instead of reply use time to make sandweech 🙂
Kosher sandweech 🙂
Love the name!
Screw women, check these guys – they are a riot:
That was f’n awesome.
Come on now, of course women are talented. Here is a list of their talents:
-Screwing over men in the divorce courts
-Taking pictures of themselves
-Knowing how to use Facebook and Twitter
-Knowing their celebrity gossip inside out
So there you have it. These are….wait….did I just say “talent”?
You forgot the most important one: to manipulate men.
– Knowing which picture to cut someone out of.
Janis Joplin, but how common is she?
Janis was an anomaly. She was also very ugly and constantly drunk, so I guess she didn’t have to worry about looking pretty onstage.
She just belted that shit out and fuck what she looked like.
The third way – Show them boobs, ladies 🙂
until you see they sag, silver-dollar nipples or stretch marks and then you’re all like…..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
until you see they sag, silver-dollar nipples or stretch marks and then you’re all like…..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Women need to stop POSTURING in their profile like they are too good for online dating. For example, a list of requirements of what you demand in a man. Also stupid lines like my friend signed me up, I don’t really do this kind of thing. Also, some kind of backhanded attempt at being polite like I’m sorry if I don’t respond to your message, but please understand how popular I am and I get so many messages I just couldn’t possibly respond. Stop posturing. If you’re really too good for online dating then just delete your profile. Nobody is forcing you to be there.
Only 14% of males are above 6 ft tall. Only 5% of males make $100k per year. So what’s with below average height women who claim they only date above average height men? Women with bullshit low paying careers who want to date doctors?
How is online dating any different from dating in real life? Do you really think its like online shopping for a pair of shoes? The shoes don’t have to like you back, you understand that right?
“Also stupid lines like my friend signed me up, I don’t really do this kind of thing”
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Spot on!
You won’t believe the number of profiles where I read this exact line.
Never…EVER ceases to amaze me how their profiles can be SO repetitive it is like they all got into a group session and did copypasta…..like worlds biggest slumberparty and they all set up a profile.
“Headline: Live, Laugh, Love.
Interests: tattoos, travelling, my friends
Pets: cats
Description: I don’t know what to write here lol!
My friends made me sign up.
I’m smart, funny, I like all music except country! lol I prefer pubs to clubs.
I love to laugh, I love my friends, I love having fun! I’m vegetarian, tattooed/pierced, spiritual but not religious, and not looking for anything serious at the moment. You must have a good job and not live in your mom’s basement. I want a boy not a man! I only like tall guys. Obligatory Marilyn Monroe quote. Anything you wanna know just ask (emoticon)”
Pretty much sums up the fucking lot of ’em.
Spot on!! also some can get that lazy I shit you not I saw one profile that went:
“Fun I like to have fun fun fun, I want to meet a guy that can keep up with me and have fun
fun fun fun”
Not sure if she was too lazy to create a mirror image of others, or painfully and undesirably original (yet still incredibly unattractive)??
Spot on!! also some can get that lazy I shit you not I saw one profile that went:
“Fun I like to have fun fun fun, I want to meet a guy that can keep up with me and have fun
fun fun fun”
Not sure if she was too lazy to create a mirror image of others, or painfully and undesirably original (yet still incredibly unattractive)??
They forget to post:
I have an IPhone glued to my hand 24/7 so you’ll be my “second” favorite thing.
You forgot to mention that ALL of them love the fucking BIG BANG THEORY. At least, here in Australia they do.
Call me shallow, but I couldn’t stomach being with a woman with so little self-worth or taste.
Wow you hit these pretty much dead on. Almost every profile I’ve seen has either most or all of that so vapid and boring.
Never really understood the obsession they have with
traveling all the time. Is it supposed to make them interesting or something? I just think it’s annoying,
how about ‘my taste in music is eclectic.’ love that meaningless buzz-word that has infested every profile.
yea I don’t want a girl that goes to cancun 5 times a f*cking year either… red flag
Most women are vapid and annoying. Yes, ‘traveling’ is supposed to make them interesting; they all write the same thing because, for most of them, the only thing they have to offer is their bodies, and they know it. They bitch that men only want them for their bodies, but do nothing to build character until they are old, used and fat. Depressing, until you accept it
While this is absolutely true, 90% of mens profiles are equally bad, too.
These are the first three “self summaries” I came across in a completely unspecific search I just did on OKcupid:
“I’m a laid back easy going guy unless you have done something negative to me. I love sports play summer baseball still haven’t missed a season since I was 7. Just started snowboarding 2 years ago. I always like to have fun with what I’m doing. Message me to get to know I’m one if those few good guys left its wrong to mistreat girls.”
“Just love having fun looking for someone who is not about games.”
“I am a father of a beautiful son, music is a huge part of my life, I’m hard working and easy going, if you want to know anything else just ask”
I can honestly say 1 out of every 2 profiles I’ve seen on POF says “I love to travel”.
One time I was talking to a girl that threw the “I love to travel” line out randomly, and I asked her “Oh really? Where have you been?” (Unbeknownst to her, I DO travel – I’ve been to Europe, I go to the Caribbean regularly, the whole deal – I just don’t advertise it on my profile).
This girl tells me she’s only been to 2 states directly north of her. Her dating profile says “I love to travel”, yet she has never been outside of the country, nor outside the East Coast for that matter, and has only traveled to a different state twice in her entire life.
Tell me again how you love traveling?
Lol and this is why you lie as a man 🙂
Lol, it’s like shopping for a pair of shoes with stinky feet
‘Only 14% of males are above 6 ft tall. Only 5% of males make $100k
per year. So what’s with below average height women who claim they only
date above average height men? Women with bullshit low paying careers
who want to date doctors?’
You have to see it from a woman’s POV : Society teach them and us hogshits like ‘all women are beautiful’ and ‘there’s someone for everyone’ therefore even a werewhale can think to herself “I must be just as beautiful as Kate Middleton is because that’s what society taught me and since there’s someone (read: a prince) for everyone (read: a woman) thus is only fair that I land a prince and not just a prince from some island kingdom of Tonga-Tonga, mind you but a European prince.
And what about women with bullshit low paying careers who want to date doctors? Well those women might be thinking “Those ungrateful doctors should thank God Almighty and be exceedingly grateful because I’m willing to stoop so low to date them, don’t they realize that I am actually entitled to a European prince?
The way I see it, if they have no admiration for a man who landed a spacecraft on a comet, chances are you aren’t going to meet the threshold either.
It’s OK I can live with that, if they’re too expensive to attain or too unattractive to even bother then I’d just wank myself happy.
Vive La Porn Vive La Prostitution.
^ Fucking Wisdom ^
I can’t even stand when women put themselves on a pedestal over anyone on the socio-economic ladder. The last girlfriend I had used to always make comments like “ew, creepy dirty truck drivers.”
I just wanted to slap her and ask her “how do you think your lifestyle is possible? That truck driver does more for the general well-being of society every week than you’ll do in your entire life!”
“Those ungrateful doctors should thank God Almighty and be exceedingly grateful because I’m willing to stoop so low to date them, don’t they realize that I am actually entitled to a European prince?”
That’s some hamster mind fucking shit right there
‘The shoes don’t have to like you back’
-Great line 😀
Shoes are secure and mature, shoes don’t get intimidated by strong fast agile confident intelligent independent women. LOL
“agile” @ 300lbs, mind you!
You’re forgetting that they are werewhales, not only are they agile and all that jazz but it would seem that they can also defy the laws of physics – werewhales are known to possess the uncanny ability to sustain themselves on just 12 donuts per year and yet somehow still more than able to retain their incredible bulk of mass.
There isn’t enough space on this forum to write down all the aggravating things I’ve read in these dating profiles. Nothing is worse than when a girl writes down what she is not looking for in a man. Is that really necessary? Some women really cock block themselves with their own profiles. My advice to any woman writing a profile would be lots of pictures very little writing. I can’t stand long winded profiles, who gives a shit about your career, your pets, or that you read 50 Shades of Gray? Keep it simple.
It’s always the rationalization and society (feminism) teaching women to “be happy” and to “not settle”. Except the cruel reality hits once they hit the wall or once they realize that they are the only single one out of their “group”.
The reason: she believed in all of that “Sex in the City” horseshit for so many years….her good years…and now she’s a used car (high mileage).
The fact: women only have so many “good years” until the new generation comes along (hotter and younger). Once that happens, the old lot is invisible. Cruel, but true.
Yep, but they refuse to believe it…like if they close their eyes and think (lol) hard enough, the world will conform to their wishes. Which, considering that her life has been populated by nothing but supplicating beta boys who adore her every bowel movement, isn’t so surprising
Hmm, I’m not sure who’s teaching these women. I was taught to work hard and be financially secure. Also never watched an episode of SATC. Missed out on that completely it seems.
Spot on. I joined a dating site for overweight people. What I learned was that women can have shitty, low-paying jobs and be obese, all the while calling themselves “curvy” and insisting on dating fit, tall, muscular men with good-paying jobs.
Women don’t need to have jobs. Their job can be living off support payments from the man they divorced. They can be short and fat and claim they are “average” because they wear high heels.
You’ve come a long way, sister.
lol, this is the reality of feminism. Fuck the definition, it’s all about rationalizing and outright lying
Just as funny are the overweight, middle-aged guys who want to date 20 year olds
In the Asian country where I live, it’s not much different.
There is a popular TV show here that goes into these dating parties that cost hundreds of dollars to join in. It is usually 30 women compete for 10 guys. These are the women who are either single mothers or still unwed. They are caked from head to toe in make-up and speak in high-pitched voices (because that’s seen as cute) and glitter is all over them.
Some of my friends ask why the disparity. Shouldn’t it be an equal number of women for an equal number of men? And my really feminist friends get offended to hear that the men essentially get to pick their favorite of the ladies at the end of the show.
They huff, “That’s not fair! Why’s it the man’s choice?”
Well, the reason is because most of the time its mothers forcing their daughters to do this to get them out of the house. The easiest way to pry their daughters out is by marriage. Since the women who compete don’t have to be gainfully employed they outnumber the men. All the women write to the managers of these parties what they want their “potential partners” to have. And that is SALARY.
So unemployed women can participate, but unemployed men cannot. The man must make at least 40,000 to join. Some women even try to say they only want men who make 100,000 to which the managers have to explain that such men are about as rare as unicorns. And most that do exist are MARRIED because everyone woman on the planet wants them their high salary.
Totally agree. I think women do view online dating like shopping for a new handbag, and that’s how most of these trying-hard-to-be-very-independent women see the men they meet — as accessories in their lives….certainly not someone to depend on and submit to in any way.
Well, they submit their bodies to sex, yet they seem to imagine their sexuality exists on a wholly separate reality from the rest of them (what little there usually is); it explains why women can fuck twenty guys before she’s 20 years old, take gallons of cum to the face, suck a dick like a porn star…and still expect to be respected as a ‘strong independent lady’.
Females tend to think sexuality exists on a spectrum all its own, rather than as a part of a whole person. They can’t imagine that men look down on their sluttiness, their minds too simple to grasp that they can be sexual beings without being ridiculous, attention-seeking whores.
The female unleashed is a blight on society, we all know it, but pretend otherwise to avoid confronting uncomfortable truths. A great way to live, until the whole cultural edifice collapses
Yeah but then you guys bitch about having to support the woman and be the breadwinner. So what do you really want?
I honestly don’t know any guys who bitch about that.
I’ve read it on some of the comments here – guys complaining that women are cows and dinosaurs who basically suck (figuratively, and occasionally literally I suppose) everything out of them yet in the same breath expect them to be virgin sex slave dinner-cooking stay-at-home child breeders. The puzzle pieces aren’t really fitting together or maybe it’s the context.
Well, since you’re asking . . . I’d like a girl to take a load of my jizz on her face and use it as a cleansing mask. It’s a fantasy of mine to see if spunk really does help feminine beauty. One girl says it does, but, alas, I never got to try it out.
Oh, and bring me a sandwich.
With sexy talk like that it’s hard for me to believe you’re still single.
C’mon, admit it: you’re tingly in your nether regions from reading my comments. Women claim they want sweet, intellectual men, but what they really want is cave men.
I agree with you, except the part about excusing yourself for not responding to messages. I wrote on mine something like “If you don’t live in my city, don’t expect a response unless you say something more interesting than “hi” or “hey sexy.” Do you realize how many not-worth-responding-to messages any half way decent looking woman gets on dating sites? I thought a little constructive criticism might help curb the number of those…although, I found out that many of these tactless men don’t actually read profiles. Anyway, about posturing, isn’t that a good way to weed out women not worth contacting?
> If this describes you, make sure you write that you exercise five times a week.
Every single person I know that exercises five times a week is fit; not even a single one has a bit of extra weight on them. If a fat girl posts that she exercises five times a week, all I can do is laugh.
> Mention that you like cooking.
Good fucking luck getting this one through to them. Women now actively refuse to cook. It’s amazing. This is despite cooking being an extremely attractive trait in a woman (and women knowing this).
> If you are a feminist, into women’s lib, or a women’s studies major, do not mention that until the fifth date after you’ve already cooked for him and generally shown you are not crazy.
As an addendum: being a feminist will NOT get you a date, not even from a guy who himself sympathizes with feminist thought. They’d just look at the ‘feminist’ label and think ‘massive chip on the shoulder’ (which is most likely true).
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Personally, I’ve given up on online dating. Not that I haven’t had success. I’ve got several bangs out of it. And they really were the best girls I could find (that weren’t just fake profiles or prostitutes looking for clients). Yet even the best girls I could find were 5’s and below in real life, and it’s just not worth it. Last time I checked, in my geographical region, I couldn’t even find a SINGLE girl I’d bang. They are all either incredibly fat, openly feminist, or genuinely SCARY looking. Plus, being on a dating site automatically downgrades your desirability by several points. Nowadays I just find girls in real life. Much more time efficient and the quality is better too.
Where do you live?
Anytown, USA it seems.
Not to digress from the main article, but I have to mention this.
The reality is that women are delusional. I repeat, delusional.
These are the same women who think that they are great and superior because of their so called “careers.”
Men build businesses and companies. The greatest industrialists and innovators of our time were MEN.
Don’t forget, these are the same career women who cannot save money for retirement because of their obsession of consuming- house, cars, kids etc.
So when it comes to online dating, not to generalise, but I think most men now know what to expect. The whole dating game is simply not worth it- just pump and dump.
The manosphere has grown- and with sites like ROK and guys like Tom Leykis, the decline in men dating women will continue and more men will start to take the red pill. It is a slow growing movement, but nonetheless, growing.
“The manosphere has grown- and with sites like ROK and guys like Tom Leykis, the decline in men dating women will continue and more men will start to take the red pill. It is a slow growing movement, but nonetheless, growing.”
Yes I agree it is growing, but by it’s very nature the backlash against feminism takes predominantly one of two forms; active or passive.
Active are your MRA’s and Alphas who game, and as we have seen the results go to either some sort of negotiation with women (MRA’s) or just getting the notches and a harem.
Passive are your MTOW-type, who just quite frankly don’t give half a rats because its like trying to build the Giza pyramids with two twigs and a prayer.
My point is that whatever main group of resistance you look at neither of them are at a point where women will change their ways (as a whole) or the feminists will be openly dismissed, the regrowth in femininity is either one of those Cleo articles (to spice up a marriage) or in the Western World it falls under Ds/Ms relationships which SHOULD be enough of a concern for even the most rookie player.
These women, these people – cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be treated the way you or I would treat each other; something absolutely sudden and cataclysmic (verbal slap to the face) or semi-sudden and cataclysmic (hitting the wall and being told she is a worn-out hosebag) will set things right.
“The manosphere has grown- and with sites like ROK and guys like Tom Leykis, the decline in men dating women will continue and more men will start to take the red pill. It is a slow growing movement, but nonetheless, growing.”
Yes I agree it is growing, but by it’s very nature the backlash against feminism takes predominantly one of two forms; active or passive.
Active are your MRA’s and Alphas who game, and as we have seen the results go to either some sort of negotiation with women (MRA’s) or just getting the notches and a harem.
Passive are your MTOW-type, who just quite frankly don’t give half a rats because its like trying to build the Giza pyramids with two twigs and a prayer.
My point is that whatever main group of resistance you look at neither of them are at a point where women will change their ways (as a whole) or the feminists will be openly dismissed, the regrowth in femininity is either one of those Cleo articles (to spice up a marriage) or in the Western World it falls under Ds/Ms relationships which SHOULD be enough of a concern for even the most rookie player.
These women, these people – cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be treated the way you or I would treat each other; something absolutely sudden and cataclysmic (verbal slap to the face) or semi-sudden and cataclysmic (hitting the wall and being told she is a worn-out hosebag) will set things right.
What, some bullshit white-collar job a family member got you where you shuffle papers with one hand and hold your iPhone in the other all day long then post bathroom selfies on your breaks with a disgruntled face and a caption to the effect of “OMGGGG work suxxx and I give no fuxxx OMG OMG!” for all of her Beta orbiters to Like and Commet on somehow isn’t a legitimate career?
You ARE joking, aren’t you?!
(OK, sarcasm off)
Not delusional. Just unable to listen or take criticism. I feel bad for all my female friends who’ve told me they don’t think they’ll be ready for marriage until 35.
And I think, “That’s a little too late…”
The ROK thing is in theory understandable but what’s confusing me is the guys that want a woman to submit/cook/bear children and not work outside the home, then bitch about working to support said woman who submits/cooks/bears children and doesn’t work outside the home.
This is what’s confusing me – you want to be the alpha, then bitch about how hard it is being the alpha (and blame woman for it).
Not me. I wanted my wife to stay home. Her job was to homeschool the children and take care of the home. I try to live a biblical life where it’s my responsibility as a man to provide for my wife & family. That’s the way I prefer it as those are the roles we were created for.
Nevertheless, her poisonous bitch mother ruined it for her by convincing her to divorce due to a argument my wife and I had. (which was over nothing really, the same shit every married couple argues over) my wife has ruined the best thing that’s ever happened in her life and she’s so delusional that she doesn’t even realize what she’s lost!
She was a single mom on welfare when I met her and she’s already back on welfare living with mommy & daddy except she now has a couple more kids after pulling her bullshit. Go figure.
Well it seems initially that your focus and strategy were correct (patterning your life as outlined by your book of choice) but it appears that your ex wasn’t totally on board with your philosophies. And from what I understand about the ROK/alpha male/red pill paradigm is the fact that her mother had a significant influence in your ex’s decision making indicates a flaw in the marriage. It’s a difficult situation for sure.
You’re assuming that interest in ROK results in a monolithic set of specific desires. Every reader/poster is an individual with individual experience, so a “one size fits all” approach is simplistic and derivative. The one desire that unites us all is to feel respected and valued; each man carries his own, specific definition of what that means. It’s the attitude that many here feel is lacking in modern Western women as a result of cultural trends.
Let me put this another way: to assume that the ROK movement is inconsistent is to buy into the idea that an article in Cosmo like, “Make Yourself Happy in 10 Easy Steps!” would somehow apply to every woman. Does every woman have the same requirements for happiness? I’d guess no; if we were to narrow that query to “does every woman have the same requirements for happiness IN A RELATIONSHIP”? I’d say no again, but most probably want . . . yep, you guessed it: to be respected and valued.
The difference is, gender is usually the lens through which these desires are filtered. If we are honest with ourselves, most men would admit we want a pretty, cheerful girl who will do things to make our lives easier–most of which involve satisfying our physical needs. Women, on the other hand, tend to want handsome (which is a more generic set of requirements compared to most men’s), strong, capable provider, someone who will satisfy her physical needs, which manifest themselves as protection, shelter and resources. The problems arise when we (pardon the colloquial language) “hate on” the other side for their natural desires and/or aren’t honest with ourselves regarding our own desires.
As I understand it, the ROK perspective is that this natural order has become perverted due to a number of forces in society, such as liberalism (as practiced today, not to be confused with others, I should think) and feminism–both originally products of people with good intentions that have been perverted by a few with nefarious purposes.
Interesting. Regarding the perversion of the natural order of things – do you see religion having a role in this? What about the trend toward fundamentalism? Also regarding respect and value it seems that the ROK perspective is that respect is only due to the man, only rarely have I seen mutual respect discussed.
Religion? Or as I like to call it, the spiritual Ponzi scheme? Yes, I’d acknowledge that religion has promulgated the idea of female inferiority; fundamentalism is simply the reactionary form of this same dynamic. When people feel threatened, they look for solutions and on the surface, fundamentalism (just like any extreme cultural bias) is going to appeal to some people because the ideas are clothed in words that attract attention and respect, which proves the power of carefully crafted rhetoric.
As for the propensity of men on this forum to complain about the lack of respect that men receive, it is only natural, given that this is somewhat the purpose of the forum–for men to air their grievances. I doubt many men are going to come here just to write, “My life is perfect; I love my wife and she’s a respectful and helpful partner.” If someone did that, many men would question his motivations and thus his credibility.
However, to judge all men–or even all male posters here based on the complaints–would be an error, since you’re only getting part of the picture for a specific situation. The complaints are also focused on specific situations, like the perceived unfairness in divorce proceedings, or the anti-heterosexual male bias in the media; if someone believes s/he is under attack, their focus is on ameliorating that injustice and so the comments are going to reflect that.
“All the make-up and hair-styling will not do you any good if you are overweight.”
^^THIS^^
It always amazed me that the fattest ugliest cunts on this earth are the ones who spend the most money on their hair and nails.
Why bother?
They’re overcompensating by trying to put lipstick on a pig….
Mistral
And who waant too eat PIG?!?
Jewmosis
Jewmosis, I’m looking forward to your first ROK article.
Yess, I write arteecle on year 1913, about establishhment of Fedd Reseever, IRS, and Anti Defecation Leegue, to help USA kill many europeean white menn in WWI, and later encourage corrupt short hair Shiksa in roarring twenties.
But how pass spelll check?? And Tuuthmosis hunt me down like Pogrom!! Oy vey
“Anti Defecation Leegue” Had to stop right there, Lmao!
Werewhales are indeed gross but pigs are adorably cute!
And let’s face it, bacon is nature’s candy….
How about “willing to walk”…women that wont walk moderate distances are the biggest pains in the ass.
Those types wanna avoid having pain in the ass…from pulling a glute.
One of the best articles i have rad for a while.
Now write one for what men should have on their profiles.
Use Dark Treead. Like this:
“I rule world
I have many beelions
I keel many meelions
Beetch now go make mee sandwich and deeliver to me. Here my address: xxx”
If a girl is honestly in the small % who are actually funny, they won’t say they are. They’d just write a funny profile. If I laugh at it, then I know she’s at least amusing. I personally like girls who look good in jeans and pony-tailed hair. Most anyone can look decent in a photo with dress, heels, blowdried hair extensions and tons of makeup.
If she’s smiling or laughing in an innocent way (NOT POUTING or smirking like a hooker about to go down on you), dressed casual and no noticeable makeup, I like
Tons of makeup and fake shit looks awful
Even geerl who say “stand up comic” and have peec in comedy club es not funny! Cheslsee Handler no funny. Roseanne Boar no funny.
Girl only funny when u laugh at her, not weeth her :))
“Girl only funny when u laugh at her, not weeth her. Or whenn you collapse economy and take job, starbuck and smartphone awey :))”
That would be a riot!
A lot of times finding one that can spell and construct a complete sentence feels like the jackpot, no matter what she looks like.
You wade through so may illiterate bitches who write in text-speak like they’re 12 years old and somehow think it doesn’t make them look like a moron.
Text speak is lazy and annoying, but it’s worse when they clearly cannot spell or understand correct grammar. I tend to send out jokey compliments as introductions, and once a girl replied with ‘Thank you. You’re definitely funny.’ I was so excited because a) she didn’t say ‘defiantly’, she didn’t say ‘your’ and she said thank you. Unheard of.
Unheard of, indeed.
Most women are definantly illiterate. And proud of it.
I got approached by a girl (again, overweight single-mother) who’s message was literally ‘how u doin’
That was her first approach with the potential for a relationship.
A lot of that is stupidity, but I also think it goes back to what I said before about how some women put the most minimal effort into their profiles and messages because they’re worried that to make an effort makes them look desperate.
A friend of mine who is a math professor occasionally gets papers from students written in text speak. He either sends them back or gives the student an ‘F’ on the paper.
Haha . . chlamydia Lydia . .
how about ‘LOOSEY’ (Lucy)
Or Loosey in the Skyy (Vodka) with Deadbeat
Haha :))
Juicy Lucy.
Whenever I venture into the world of online dating, I inevitably turn into a troll. I can’t help it; someone needs to spray diarrhea on these insufferable cunts. My apologies to those of you who actually use these sites in order to find dates.
My most legendary profile (I’ve had many worth a good chuckle) was thus:
“Existential Nihilist seeks borderline personality type for shared indulgence in psychopathy and narcissism.
There is no more piquant seasoning for happiness than the joys of cruelty- a certain sensation of satisfaction and delight in sheer violence.
‘I hate and I love. You ask me why? Who knows?
But I feel it occur and I’m tortured.’ -Catullus, 85
Equal parts hedonist and ascetic, I can fuck like a rabbit and gorge my senses, then I will challenge the most austere of slave moralities. I liken myself to a god who takes pleasure first in controlling people’s passions and then in showing people what they cannot have- a mild form of punishment for their hubris in thinking that they deserve anything at all. My pleasure is particularly derived from the anxiety and emotional trauma that’s triggered by the realization that one is simply not good enough. In this sense, I am a Sadist and Misanthrope. My ire is directed towards women, so technically I’m a misogynist. My hatred, of course, is second-order; I would not hate women if I did not first love them. “Odi et amo.”
As for fucking, you should know beforehand that I never play with the clitoris. I apply pressure and friction to it at various points, but it’s always as an aside to some vaginal stimulation. I understand that clitoral stimulation is all the rage now, still I reject it on grounds of effeminacy. Instead I rely on the tools and tropes of my blue-collar upbringing and military background: the piledriver, the jackhammer, the powerbomb. Deal with it.”
I’ll lay my cards on the table here and say that the first bit about “cruelty” and “violence” was cribbed from Nietzsche. That last bit about the clitoris was inspired by an old article here at ROK (which still makes me laugh by the way) written by TheCaptainPower. Here’s the link for those of you have not read it yet:
Mine Better:
“I rule world
I have many beelions
I keel many meelions
Beetch now go make mee sandwich and deeliver to me. Here my address: xxx. Whoever makee best sandwich geet demon seed cock!”
If I could find the appropriate .gif image of a bunch of guys giving you a standing ovation with a slow clap I would put it in…..however these words will suffice. Well-played Sir.
The majority of today’s Western women are so mean-spirited, that treating them like utter shit is nothing more than poetic justice. They literally delight in guzzling male tears like a feisty freshman downing a beer bong at his first frat party.
I don’t see it as cruelty. It’s called virtue – treating scum like scum, while saving one’s adoration for those that are worthy of it.
Captain get out of that pro!
In other words, the same way girls get noticed in real life
By actually being quality instead of believing everybody is equal
Everybody is equal if you are Goyim :)))
It’s settled; Roosh needs to open a website completely dedicated to giving life advice to women. The meltdown would be so epic…..burning your likeness in effigy would get turned into a global holiday.
That would explode site traffic.
Recipe for a clichè Tinder profile:
Start off with a pseudo-intellectual quote that sounds like fortune cookie dialogue.
Say something worn-out like “I live in the gym!” or “The gym is my drug!” even though you’ve only had a membership for six months.
Then say you love traveling and travel brag by showcasing pictures of your token White people’s pilgrimage to good ol’ Christian and safe Europe.
Show your most “flattering” spandexed-out gym selfie followed by a seatbelt selfie.
Then wait.
Yeah they copy / post what other women are doing on their profiles. Then wonder why they get used for pump and dump. Maybe because they made themselves interchangeable with other women?
Recipe for a clichè Tinder profile:
Start off with a pseudo-intellectual quote that sounds like fortune cookie dialogue.
Say something worn-out like “I live in the gym!” or “The gym is my drug!” even though you’ve only had a membership for six months.
Then say you love traveling and travel brag by showcasing pictures of your token White people’s pilgrimage to good ol’ Christian and safe Europe.
Show your most “flattering” spandexed-out gym selfie followed by a seatbelt selfie.
Then wait.
Oh and the sheer number of ones feigning the scams of “NOT HERE TO HOOK UUUUUUP!”, “Just checking this out.”, “Here to meet new and interesting people.” and (oh man, this one takes the cake!) “My friends MADE ME make a profile!” are both pathetic and comical at the exact same time!
Where the fuck did the car/seatbelt selfie come from?
I know women are a hive mind and blindly imitate each other in everything they see and do, but who even thought of that and how did it catch on?
And any woman who emphasises her fitness or talks about the gym is passive-aggressively saying “No fatties!”
REAL badasses go to the gym becase THEY HAVE TO spiritually, physically, and physologically and NEVER brag about it or attention whore for Beta Likes and Comments about it! It’s jist what that do without even having to think when hungover, sleep-deprived, or even with strep throat!
You still have dumb ass women taking bathroom selfies in a mirror when their phone has a front facing camera.
Post like a bookseller would describe the condition of a book on Amazon:
*has original jacket with no creases or blemishes
*like new to mint condition
*has one small blemish on cover page most likely left by author during signing above the spot
*pictures are glossy and smell of new ink – possibly never read or even opened
Or fuck, just post that you’re over 17 & 364 days with an unbroken hymen and can speed read a recipe book at 300 wpm, can milk goats, and that you have a strange tingly feeling that there’s more in life out there than the family farm. Mention that every time you smell male armpit sweat that you become speechless and vexed.
When a girl says that, it’s time to JUMP ON HER before it’s too late.
I could write a 10,000 page book bitching about the women on those sites but obviously I don’t have time for that. However,I will say that my personal favorites (sarcasm) are the “curvy” women and BBWs who say shit like “if you have a problem with big women get off my page” and then in the next sentence they start telling you all the things they consider unacceptable in men. The biggest problem with modern women is they refuse to compromise and you can’t have a good relationship with out compromise. It would be understandable for women to have high expectations if they were prizes themselves… But most women aren’t…
Were you reading the profiles of BBWs for your own amusement?
Right there shows how cuntish, even a Jubba the Hut twin can be. As someone mentioned earlier, they are so delusional they think this attitude and behavior is attractive.
I’m with you there.
Having experienced it myself, the level of narcissism and entitlement in these women is staggering.
Even an overweight, semi-literate single mother thinks she’s a 10 and will, without a trace of irony, post “I’m a princess and I deserve to be treated like one’.
And don’t get me started on the defensive, cunty ones who OPEN their profiles with shit like “I’m not looking for one-night stands so don’t even bother.”
Way to endear yourself to any potential suiters, sweethearts. I don’t expect a one night stand but I certainly don’t want someone who’s got a rape whistle at the ready the whole time.
During my few years of the blue pill wasteland after I got divorced I did the online thing. What I don’t get is the attitude on some of the profiles like they set the profile up to seem like they are too good for the whole thing and yet your on an online dating site.
-I don’t expect to meet anyone on a superficial site like this.
-Please don’t say hi how’s it going
-interesting people only
-I know it’s hard to believe an independent attractive woman is on a site like this
Most use it for validation purposes only.
Oh, I imagine it’s a good 40% women just wanting an ego stroke.
How do I know? Well, I was in this wastelands of entitled cunts two years ago. I only lasted eight months but even now I go back and check the profiles and a quite a few of the women who were there when I was (and who rejected me) are STILL there.
So not only was I not good enough for them, but apparently nobody is.
Or they’re just all there jerking themselves off and mocking the men who message them with their girlfriends.
Look at the woman, if you dare, that are 40 to 50. My god they look like transsexual linebackers with makeup. Like John Lithgow from the “World according to Garp.” My apologies to John Lithgow.
And they lie about their age in their profiles claiming they are in their mid 30’s.
Assume an american woman in her 40s is 40 pounds overweight. In her 50s she’s 50 pounds overweight. She’s using pics from late 30s. The only exception might be asian american who seem to age better due to genetics, or not being raised on hamburgers.
Great article. It truly is jaw-dropping what women say about themselves and their expectations from a man on these pathetic dating sites. Probably the most indicative of the decline of the American woman is the statement: “I will not settle.”
Even fat, tramp stamped women put that completely delusional statement in their “profile.”
If I wanted an American woman, I would just skip right to Adult Friend Finder or a similar site. That’s simply because the only time I’m interested in an American woman is to hump and dump. So, I need to be efficient about getting to a woman that can deep throat it.
It would be helpful if we gave American women advice on how to use a hook up site. The number one advice for an American woman is, of course, to provide a large number of nude, full body pics. Fat chicks can’t get laid even if they are offering to pay for it, so check your delusion. Close ups of your vagina are very important, because we want to check for disease. Put a date stamp on those vagina pics, so we know they are recent. In your description, make sure you tell us you are an expert at deep throat. Saying you like anal is a plus. Offering to bring along another girl, and providing pictures of her, are a plus as well.
Sorry American whore – this is the best you can do now. You may as well stop fighting it. You chose to participate in the make-believe narrative about “rape culture.” So, now you have convinced American men that what you really craze is to be raped. Perhaps not violently, be at least in a fantasy. We have heard you and thus realize that you are only interested in fast hook-ups and using sex to get what you want in life.
Now, on the other hand, using a web site to meet a foreign woman before your travels is not a bad idea. But these women do not need advice. They all know that describing their domestic virtues is attractive to us. They know to give a hint of sexiness. They know that several full body pics showing their thin bodies are a necessity. They know that saying things like, “I wish to fulfill your every desire,” will help them attract a good man.
yea, dude. I have never used a dating site in USA before…but I’ve been to Ukraine Date & Russian Cupid & that led me to couple it with VKontakte & it was life changing.
Literally life changing in every wonderful way
Thank you. Some women really need a reminder that their love handles and loud opinions aren’t wanted and should be
Yeah, I give up on the whole thing. Big waste of time. There are no women left who believe in true femininity, and the ones who are even remotely attractive ALWAYS have a bunch of pictures of themselves at bars boozing it up with their fat girlfriends. Tip: Don’t post pictures of yourself holding booze, drinking booze, etc. Also, posting pictures softly out of focus does not eliminate pounds or wrinkles and just makes us suspect that you think there is a need to hide the truth.
Just once I would have liked to see “my party days are long over, I prefer to be domestic, to spend time making my home a quiet refuge of comfort and beauty. I am a lover of Western Civilization, looking for the same.”
Fat chance, son (no pun intended).
We’re all destined for the monastery or the brothel, there’s nowhere else to go.
You wouldn’t want to read “my party days are long over…” All that means is that she was a slut and now you’re trying to save a ho.
That’s a fair point. But unless your trolling for a girl who grew up in a convent, it is a 99.9% statistical probability that an attractive young girl probably went drinking and dancing in her younger years. It’s just part of the socialization process in our age, and we can’t escape it. If she came from a good family, then maybe she wasn’t a total whore, and maybe she even found the whole process cheap and boring. So, yeah, I still prefer that a women declare that the bar scene is for losers, and that she happily left it behind.
The final date I had while I was doing the online dating thing (or as I refer to it, ‘the straw’), the girl only spoke about herself the entire time.
I’m not kidding in the slightest when I say that any time I tried to give an anecdote or relate something she was saying to my own experiences she would just go blank and say nothing.
Eventually I realised that I was going to have to constantly keep asking her things about herself to keep her interested, since everything I said about myself went down like a fart in a spacesuit.
And that was during dinner. As the rest of the night wore on she just became openly dismissive and condescending to anything I said. Movies are my passion, so I’d talk about a great movie I had seen recently and she just said “I wouldn’t watch that…” Not a single attempt to connect or share something that I was clearly significant to me.
And the most fucked-up thing is that she pursued ME!! She messaged me and I wasn’t interested (looks-wise she’s about a 4) but I was getting no other bites so I started messaging her. Big mistake. I would go two-three weeks without messaging her, hoping she’d get the hint and go away.
But sure enough, after a couple of weeks she would message me “How are you?”
Honestly, this happened constantly over five months until I finally decided to ask her out. And the aforementioned disaster was the result.
Why would you go out with a 4??
Like I said, this dragged out for months and I didn’t have the nerve to message her and tell her I wasn’t interested.
And I knew I was done with this bullshit so I thought I at least owed it to her to take her out to dinner.
It was a while lot of mistakes I made that I wouldn’t again.
You should’ve grown a pair of balls and tell her to buzz off. You didn’t owe her shit! She kept YOU around waiting for someone better to come around. She text you after a brief silence because she was bored and sought attention.
I know. I should have.
I’m still confused on why you even went out with her to begin with if you weren’t attracted to her?
Because I’m a nice person.
do you guys really still use online dating sites? those women are bottom of the barrel, low quality, worthless.
And the men are thirsty desperate lower-than-omegas that I would not want to be associated with.
In case you’re unaware, this guy made a fake profile using this pig-lady’s pics, and had guys wanting to hook up. I couldn’t believe it, so I tried it myself, and yes, guys actually messaged me saying I’m beautiful. I even got one guy to give me his address because I told him I wanted to come over.
Seriously guys, get off of these sites. They’re a waste of time, the women are all garbage and the men are fucking losers
http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=41769&start=0
And please for the love of God, no more putting your education level in your screen name “DegreeLicensedNurse54828”.
Why? Because we don’t care.
Pictures of you in all the same races that the other dumb ho’s run in…drumstick dash, warrior dash this or that, color run whatever.
Why? Again, we don’t give a shit. If it doesn’t make you more pretty or nicer to be around, we don’t fucking care.
Literally.
The article made a good point that women seem to think that men are interested in the same things that women are.
So since women are obsessed with status, education and money that’s what they choose to emphasise on their profiles. Never forget, the answer to that eternal question “What do women want?” is very simple:
“What other women have.”
I don’t give a fuck if you work at McDonalds. If you’re hot and not a whiny, nagging cunt men will always want you.
You said it bro! “What other women have.” They compete with themselves and destructively. If there is one shred of chance a woman can pull another woman’s man away they’ll do it. They will throw pussy at you.
Women collect the remains of what men provided them after a divorce. To me, that shit is prostitution. You don’t get a car and a home because you have a hole. Of course they have no shame taking shit that doesn’t belong to them thinking by virtue of being married they deserve it. They’ll collect the previous wares of a former relationship with no reservation or shame, even better if it belonged to another woman.
DegreeLicensedNurse54828 looking for some fool to pay off my student loan.
I’m firmly convinced that women who’s profiles are lazy and vague and who post things like “I’m just here too see whatevs…” or the dreaded “just ask me something” are often trying to not appear what they see in their minds as desperate.
So spending time crafting a well-written, entertaining and informative profile is just going to make them bait for perverts and psychos. They’re sabotaging themselves from the start.
When I was on POF I re-wrote my profile a dozen times before I posted it. I even sent it to my sister and asked her what she thought. Her response was “Well, it sounds like you…” so I figured that if someone isn’t interested in me then at least they can probably pinpoint exactly why. It was either my clear, unobstructed three-quarter body photographs or my detailed-yet-amusing ‘About Me’ section.
Not a high-angle-headshot selfie that hides 85% of my physical appearance and statements like “I just like stuff n things LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
It’s amazing how these dating and social networking (really, is there any difference between the two?) created an entire culture of overnight “fitness guru” girls. Really, do they even know how much time and energy goes into exercising CORRECTLY and effectively? Sorry bitches, but wearing a criminal amount of spandex and shirts with bumper-sticker phrases like “I don’t wash plates, I CLEAN them!” or “Sore today or sorry tomorrow!” doesn’t convince anybody you give a shit about exercise culture beyond the skankwhorey spandex gym selfies you post for your army of Beta boys. Give it a rest, not impressed!
Agree. I can’t believe that a woman is a “marathon runner” when she is big as a house.
The last time I checked…these marathon runners were a certain weight and size….and big ass house wasn’t one of those “sizes”.
Bro to them exercising is a play dress-up (or rather, “dress-down”) exhibition, not a physical/spiritual endeavor!
I joined a fitness orientated site in the past. The women there were freaking fat and ugly and seemed to think fitness was wanting to go to the gym rather than going. I find it incredibly hard to believe the lies they tell themselves signing up for a site and thinking they are into fitness.
It’s amazing how these dating and social networking (really, is there any difference between the two?) created an entire culture of overnight “fitness guru” girls. Really, do they even know how much time and energy goes into exercising CORRECTLY and effectively? Sorry bitches, but wearing a criminal amount of spandex and shirts with bumper-sticker phrases like “I don’t wash plates, I CLEAN them!” or “Sore today or sorry tomorrow!” doesn’t convince anybody you give a shit about exercise culture beyond the skankwhorey spandex gym selfies you post for your army of Beta boys. Give it a rest, not impressed!
some truth to this.
men don’t care about your education.
sucks, because it’s what we were taught what would make us a ‘good’ partner.
and it is crappy because many women still want a man who makes the same as them, or more.
if we are in a high paying field…good luck finding a partner who makes more.
it is taboo to partner with a man that makes less.
we have a long way to go.
Women think that by being the man they can catch a man….it’s all wrong (I’m here to tell you).
They’ve been lied to or at least brainwashed by the feminist narrative to think and behave a certain way. Many of them are becoming frustrated in life as to why they don’t “have it all” like feminism promised them.
It’s all bullshit and a lie. Women should have been happy with their role all along. It’s not as if they were prisoners in a concentration camp. Many have had a pretty sweet deal throughout history with a few having a pretty shitty time.
All in all…the female (especially the white female) has had a good run. Only until modern times have they had a hard time….and it’s their own fucking fault.
Stop listening to bullshit (by feminists and by women). If you want to know what a man finds appealing…then start listening to a fucking man’s advice….that’s it.
That is the secret.
If you want to know what a man finds appealing…then start listening to a fucking man’s advice….that’s it.
I often wonder how they overlook this and spend all day writing articles back and forth to each other about what men want.
in denial.
and because ‘feminine’ roles such as cleaning/cooking/child-rearing and being feminine are considered inferior.
they have this mentality that anyone can clean/cook/child-rear…but making ‘something’ of yourself aka a doctor or pharmacist, that’s admirable.
i do not think cooking is easy. maybe cleaning is. but child-rearing definitely not…to raise another human being is a skill.
but i think because it’s ‘biological’ aka anyone can have a kid it’s not given any importance.
women who get married and have a kid young took the ‘easy’ way out.
at least that’s what i have been able to gather.
Some women found the housework, cooking, child rearing things easier than others. But that’s everything in life. Some find things easier than others.
Whether easy or not they were important. The only people who didn’t realize that were the feminists.
Learning to cook is not that hard. Start with learning how to cook 3 basic things and go from there. Guys are simple for the most part. Most guys (not all) will be more than appreciative just to have hot food made for them.
Incidentally, there was a study in the UK recently; most career women would be more than happy to quit their jobs and stay at home if they could. Apparently not many women there are feeling fulfilled by their cubicles and weekly TPS reports.
btw, 25 is not over the hill. Tall, thin, longhair, yoga classes…it sounds like you take care of yourself. Women who don’t party like skanks all the time can maintain their looks into their 30’s easily.
Guys for the most part are pretty easy to please as long as you understand the few things we’re really looking for rather than what feminism tells you we want.
of course i take care of myself. i am not naive to think a man will like me just for my brilliant personality. i know to attract someone who is fit and health conscious…i ought to be too.
and i was the kid who was chubby in high school, went to university and dropped 20 lbs instead of gaining…which i am glad, while my high school life wasn’t all that interesting…i understood metabolism early on and i will never let myself get fat.
i never liked to party and would always go home with who i came with (my girlfriends).
i do not know about the ‘feminists’ being the initial ones that devalued traditional roles… taking a look back at advertising about women and what they were supposed to do was very demeaning, i am not surprised women didn’t want to do it anymore.
women do not want to play motherhood. and men do not want to be divorce screwed.
we are paying for the mistakes of our ancestors who ridiculed women’s roles…
well, now we have it…people do not want to get married.
i am not angry at feminists though. you need to take responsibility. i could have not gone to school, i could have tried to find a partner/marry/kids…but i decided not to. i made the decision to go to school.
feminists just gave me that opportunity.
Well I am 25 so I am already almost over the hill.
I am thin (might be too thin), have long hair, dress feminine…but I am tall…
And for some reason I don’t find men shorter than me attractive.
i rarely get approached too…but i think it’s because I look like I am 18 (i.e. i look very young for my age…), or if I am approached I am completely oblivious to such advances.
and if i am approached it’s by the father of my client…which is ethically a no-no.
i guess i don’t put myself out there…i am going to start going to the gym instead of my yoga class. maybe i’ll have luck there?
i am not quite sure if i would be happier if i married young and was a housewife…
but the thing is, don’t you need a dual income to live decently these days?
ironically i went to school so i could take care of myself. thinking a man would like an independent woman…is farthest from the truth.
but i am okay with that.
Did they teach capital letters at your school sweetheart?
make eye-contact with a man for longer than 1 second & you should get approached…
How about this profile:
Hi, I’m desperate for a man who makes 150,000 and will be buy me a yacht on our first date. I sometimes can be “sensitive” — what my friends call fun and unpredictable — but I have the heart of a teddy bear. I’ll never be there when you need me, but you better be there when I need you. I want to be showered with jewelry and clothes, but don’t call me shallow. I’m not. I just love shopping ~
I consider myself good with money. These days my power and water only get cut off 9 times out of the year. A record for me! Yay! I work a lot in a menial job, but I know deep down I’m totally an artist ~ That’s me. Tee-hee!
I am dance machine on the club floor. I rule them clubs. Yum!
But I never sleep around. I’m not the kind of girl who lets a guy past first base because I’m drunk and desperate for his attention. I’m totally a virgin still.
I have so many hobbies and skills. You should see how i do nails! My culinary skills are amazing. No one makes hot pockets and mac’n’cheese like I do. I exercise a lot. I mean shopping requires a lot of walking so it keeps those calories off!
I LOVE dogs. And cats. My dog, Pumpkin, and my cats, the Three Stooges, are my world. They’re my children. That and my actual child, but don’t worry my parents mostly take care of him. Anyhow, I’m totally ready to love again!
Just send me a wink and…
how much do you make and what are your net assets?
I hate it when they ask where your live, and then if you rent or own. Gold digger interview process, qualifying the prospect. WTF
Made me laugh, lol.
This was definitely needed today, thank you. I have never gone the internet route (just too darn shy), but I will try to keep these tips in mind when I have free time to interact socially with friends and acquaintances throughout the week.
You know, it was always my girliest friends who told me that my being a tomboy wasn’t a problem–then, I watched in agony while they snatched up every boy I had a crush on. I wonder if that was their subversive method of eliminating the competition… 🙂
You have a smiley, but I’ve seen women do some pretty crappy things to each other over men. They may not have, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did it either.
Well, there was this one time…
I was living with an eclectic group of actors during a summer theatre season. I divulged to another actress that I was crushing really hard on this one technician. He was super funny, kind, and good-looking, and way out of my league. But, we went out to eat a few times together, spent one lovely afternoon reading hilarious Reddit comment threads outloud, and my hopes were high.
That same weekend I told her? She made out with him. She told me this through tears, and I could tell that she honestly felt terrible about it. It hurt, though, so much. Because I trusted her, and it’s always been hard for me to open up to other girls.
However, after that weekend, NOTHING happened between them–he pursued her for the reat of the season, but she didn’t reciprocate. I’ve always felt terrible about that in turn, because I felt like she was too ashamed to follow through with what she felt. You can’t control who you’re attracted to, I guess.
Why would you feel bad? You didn’t anything wrong. She specifically went after a guy you were interested in.
Women make terrible friends for other women for the most part.
Assuming you are not merely providing click-bait, she did it to get one over you and consolidated her power over you by playing hard ball with him for the rest of the season. This kept him away from you and you did not try to ‘get’ him yourself – why?
Pardon me but you have a very strange view on all this, I do not for one minute believe she felt guilt, her crocodile tears should have told you that.
It was the boost to her ego that she could have something you wanted, anytime. What does a woman want? What other women have. She had it, you wanted it.
There is definitely merit to what you’ve said. However, she and I have remained friends since that summer, and I feel that all in all she’s really enriched my life.
I found out over that summer that she had a very distant father–left her family when she was still quite young. I wondered (during the “incident”) if maybe she behaved that way to garner attention and validation. He was just a desirable male that she had verifiable proof was being pursued–and she got to “win” him. I could tell that she had some deep-seeded insecurities about men, even though she is an extremely attractive blonde, and I feel like they stem from feeling inadequate to her father’s high standards.
I met him at a play once. All he could talk about was how his daughter “looked” on stage, nothing about her excellent performance. After the show, he took us out to eat and made constant remarks on the looks of the other actresses in the show. He even commented on the waitress in front of her.
You might be right, and she may have initially gone after the guy I liked to compete with me and show me how easily overpowered I could be. But, if that’s true, I think her need to compete might be compulsive. I still feel the apology was genuine, and that she refused his advances after that to spare my feelings.
But, I could be totally wrong. I appreciate your taking the time to give me another perspective–it really helps!
I only felt bad for the two of them–they were obviously attracted to each other (he especially to her), but they failed to begin a relationship. I still think it may have been because she felt guilty about the whole thing. And if that’s the case, it left three people unhappy, instead of leaving two happy people and one slightly disappointed person.
The needs of the many should outweigh the needs of the few. 🙂
You are too nice. It’s okay to think of yourself sometimes.
The needs of the many should outweigh the needs of the few.
Make sure you leave that off your online dating profile.
Duly noted!
Forgive my snap judgement, just looking at the situation from the outside, you know her best, but I don’t know why she couldn’t sit the guy down and explain it was a one-off, let him down gently but make it clear thats where it ends. Gives him a chance to move on – and you the chance to step in!
I’d say that the advice in this article is sound and you seem to be a nice person and I guess, pleasant to be around. That’s half of Blair’s advice, so you are streets ahead of others already.
Best of luck in your search for a good man, just give them half a chance and get to know them and if its what you are looking for, go for it!
Nothing to forgive, hogi, really! I appreciate the help. And thanks for the encouragement. I actually tried some of these techniques today at a table-read. Lots of new guys there that I didn’t know, a few whom I’ve known for years. Instead of what I’d usually wear at a first read (jeans, loose sweatshirt, and Converse), I tried nice shoes, a professional top, and a necklace. Not the girliest outfit, but out there for me. The response was dramatic, especially from the men I’d worked with before!
It’s not about changing everything you are, or behaving like someone you’re not–you have to look like you’re mature and you respect yourself before you can attract anyone you respect.
nice shoes, a professional top, and a necklace.
Now you’re talking.
A lot of women think you need to look slutty but you don’t. Dress nice like that and , “look like you’re mature and you respect yourself” and you’ll do fine.
My favorite: “Looking for a man that is going to be there for me and my kids”
Love that one. . Here is a good one too. . I need a man who accepts my kids and provides for them. . You must like kids. . Then below she types I don’t want a man who has his own kids. . Men with kids don’t respond to me
None will ever hold water to this : ” I’m a 35 YO smart intelligent confident woman, I need a clean good-looking man, not older than 35, must be 6′ at the very least and has a well-proportioned body, some extra muscles and a 6-pack would be nice, make 200K per annum, funny & witty, don’t smoke but moderate drinking is OK, romantic, sensitive, faithful, last but not least – LOVE ME FOR WHO I AM”.
i like this one:
“My kids are number one in my life”
Ok bitch, so what makes you think I’ll commit to being number two? The single mom will never allow you to fully parent “her” kid, thus always placing you in second. I’ve been there. Never again though.
if women want to take your advice seriously, especially the part about trimming-down, then no amount of treadmill activity is going to accomplish this for them. instead they need to completely change their diet. this should involve two basic steps: 1) no more sugary drinks (ever), no more refined carbs, and increase their consumption of protein/fat/green-veggies. 2) go hungry (ie. fasting a couple days per week)… they don’t want to hear it, but if they starve themselves, they’ll get results. exercise is great for getting in shape, but it’s not going to change their shape (or get results on a scale).
This article is a little delusional and pointless because it assumes that there are potentially decent women out there who are not getting any attention on online dating. The only advice is to not be a troll. As long as you aren’t hideously overweight or have weird and obvious physical deformities, then you will get plenty of messages. Women basically just have to show up, even if they are incredibly average.
Online dating. Mostly fat single mom’s or obese land whales who never married. . The hot girls have full inboxes and bitch shields are on full. . Online goes like this. Alot of if 5’s acting like they are dimes because they get alot of messages. They think men sending shit to them means they are a dime. The reality is that men message them for easy sex. No one will commit to their fat ass. It’s full of single mom’s looking for a wallet with profiles saying they have had their fun, want a real man with no kids. Code words like average is fat, curvy is obese. Hardworking and professional are code for a man with money. Likes to travel is code for she likes to spend your money
Also I’m tall. 6’4″ but I’ve heard short men are filtered out by even the fattest single mom. So short men get rejected by even nasty 3’s online.
wow…some real talk rite here. Ha!
Tell me about it, bitches are straight-up delusional and biased when it comes to a man’s height and THEIR OWN height. FFS, I’ve had bitches a good feet shorter than me told me that I’m not tall enough, WTF?
I tried Tinder when it first came out to see what the hype was all about. I just swyped right on every profile to increase my odds. It’s amazing how even 3/10s are swyping left on me LOL
Yep even a fatty wants Brad Pitt
Although only recently stumbled upon this site I’ve spent many hours catching up on past articles and I’d like to congratulate Blair for one of the best I’ve read to date.
Some of your comments, although hard, resonate with such 21st Century truth they should be mandatory advice to all the broken women who haunt on-line dating sites. My favourites are:
..in the grown-up world, no one cares about you as an individual. All relationships are innately transactional, and you’ve got to bring something to the table beyond your charming personality (or lack thereof).
..you do not get to decide what men find attractive in women
..you are on internet dating because you have failed in real life. You do not get to be picky.
..if you are divorced, an unwed mother, or past your 20s, then you need to greatly expand your upper age limit.
and perhaps the best
..the days of courting are over. A guy will not spend a lot of money on the first date because he doesn’t know if the investment will pay off.
I would only add my hope that this approach will be the standard throughout the relationship.
The rise of feminism has flattered women’s self esteem, to regard themselves as high value, even when they are not and to expect more. Perversely, they act in a more sluttish way attracting thirsty men who underpin their over-inflated sense of entitlement.
The slut princess attitude is however, helping beta men make a more rational investment / pay off decision (Alpha men already being at that stage). This trend can only be good for men but not so good for women in the long run. But as they say, a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, so its all good.
Epic post. How can a fat single mom expect to get on a site and find a rich tall good looking alpha is beyond me. Surely she must have a mirror but the hamster is strong.
‘Surely she must have a mirror but the hamster is strong.’
Oh yes she does have a mirror whom she often asked when no one’s around ‘mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all’ ?
fattest*^
“The rise of feminism has flattered women’s self esteem, to regard
themselves as high value, even when they are not and to expect more.
Perversely, they act in a more sluttish way attracting thirsty men who
underpin their over-inflated sense of entitlement.”
Yes. I left the *sisterhood* a long, long time ago.
..you do not get to decide what men find attractive in women
That one always cracks me up.
They load up on tattoos. Then complain and act like men just have to want them.
They cut their hair short. Act like men are required to like it.
Get fat. Men can’t judge women for being fat.
They act like sluts then tell everyone they have no right to judge them for it…except we do.
Many women do not seem to understand that with all these new choices they have available to them, come a whole host of potential consequences, some of which include men not finding some of these choices desirable.
Agree. The feminist narrative has tried to convince them all that they can have their cake and eat it too.
Many of them look like they’ve had too much fucking cake…..back away from the table, piggy.
I take care of myself, workout, eat right, etc….so I hold a woman to that standard. If she has the appearance of a woman who sits on the couch and eats chips, then she will get crossed off my list (no fat asses allowed).
lol too much cake, that cracked me up
I just can’t grasp how a fat single mom can have a list. It’s insane
I live in a small ski-town in Colorado … So having my face exposed on a dating website would be considered a public embarrassment. If I were 55 or older I might consider such a thing.
Idea: Why doesn’t Return of Kings make a dating site that’s just for manly men and women who adore them?
Because it would be all keyboard jockeys who can’t condition women in real life and insecure girls with Hitler fetishes. Although I kind of like the idea.
The most evidence I have seen to support ‘females are delusional’ is on Tinder. Swipe until you see any of the following in the ‘profile’:
Not looking for a hookup
No one night stands/just here for long term relationships
Looking for love not sex, et cetera.
(For a game, see how many profiles it takes to find one of the above and try to beat my record of 5).
Every time I feel like stating the obvious “Bitch, you’re on Tinder!” Do they really think an app carrying the slang moniker for ‘hot box’ is where they’ll find a husband?
I pretend they are saying this to play female game and not appear slutty. It has the same effect as a woman saying ‘I won’t sleep with you right away’ and knowing I will.
Fuck, I saw “not looking for a hookup” on the second profile. The next few all said the same or similar!
{Tell the believing men to lower their
gaze and be modest. That is purer for
them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they
do. And tell the believing women to
lower their gaze and be modest, and
to display of their adornment only
that which is apparent, and to draw
their veils over their bosoms, and not
to reveal their adornment save to
their own husbands or fathers or
husbands’ fathers, or their sons or
their husbands’ sons, or their brothers
or their brothers’ sons or sisters’ sons,
or their women, or their slaves, or
male attendants who lack vigor, or
children who know naught of women’s
unclothedness. And let them not stamp
their feet so as to reveal what they
hide of their adornment. And turn
unto Allah together, O believers, in
order that ye may succeed.
Reasons why online dating, craigslist (mostly for the extremely desperate, read some shit there and a lot of the ads were fake) etc. sucks.
I find it quite ironic that woman can’t be noticed online. There is like 10 time more man than woman online so even an ugly woman can get noticed quite fast. As for the hairs, I like long straight hairs but not too long like on the butt. Must be barely below the shoulders. I don’t like curbed hairs except if you are Latino.
Yep, the author writes “You do not get to be picky”
He’s obviously not been on Tinder.