A friend of mine recently told me that his father used to say “my job is to teach you how to think, not what to think.” This struck me as simple and fundamentally correct, but the nuance got me thinking more about a father’s role in his son’s upbringing. Passing knowledge and certain truths down to the next generation is the key to maintaining your legacy and to setting your children up for success.
This is easier said than done. The education system consumes eight hours of a child’s day for twelve years, all the while undermining parental authority, prolonging immaturity, and pushing them to go to college. Popular culture, social media, and old media bombard their minds with harmful illusions during the few moments of free time they have.
Nowadays, it’s critical to share wisdom with your children, especially your sons, to prevent them from learning every lesson the hard way; to show them the ways of the world before they have to venture out into it. One way to accomplish this is to use one of the “enemy’s” tools against him: watch certain movies with your sons, using the plot as an opportunity to expose their minds to red pill truths.
An example from my life was seeing the original Robocop as a kid: at the time it taught me about armaments, but decades later I realized that a crime fighting machine, lacking human weaknesses, would probably enforce the law better. In general, I recommend using movies that are gritty and realistic. Here are my top five choices.
1. Batman Begins
In this Christopher Nolan reboot of the Batman franchise, the typical Hollywood fluff is virtually absent, and the narrative explores the better aspects of the Batman universe. The concept of hard work and discipline is prominent, which is refreshing. Good and evil are never simple matters in Gotham City. The “heroes” sometimes hide secrets and delusions, and the “villains” sometimes see things more clearly.
Pay close attention to the competing ideologies and worldviews in the film, and the consequences for the characters who hold them. You can discuss with your son the merits of each worldview, and this will get him wondering which is correct. Young Bruce Wayne doesn’t live in a world where everyone’s a winner – even the son of a wealthy philanthropist has to get grimy. But Bruce Wayne inherits more than his father’s wealth: he inherits his altruism and idealism. Sure, he’s noble, but is it worth the price he has to pay?
Is fighting to save Gotham city as Batman worth depriving Bruce Wayne of enjoying his wealth or starting a family? The fact that he has to work outside of the judicial system to accomplish any true effect on criminal activity is another point you should point out to your son.
On the flipside of that she should also educate us on that not all poor people are good people that deserve saving. The dialogue is sophisticated and the actors deliver it with precision, which is refreshing in a world where articulate speech is going by the wayside. Ask yourself what themes you find in the movie and how you’d explain them to your son.
2. Platoon
First off this movie would introduce history that most likely will never be covered in public education, because teachers never seem to make it to the later chapters in the textbook. While the movie doesn’t illustrate that Vietnam was actually a Democratic problem or what happens when you have ivory tower elitists running American foreign-policy, it does show the futility of a war where one side doesn’t try their hardest to win.
The vulgar language and mostly realistic depiction of combat should inoculate your son from falling for some Marine recruiter’s jingoism in the future. The gruesomeness of interpersonal violence presented might actually prevent him from latching on the first person shooting games.
3. Clear And Present Danger
This movie will mainline American government straight into Junior’s veins. No social studies or American civics class can truly illustrate the scene that is the DC Beltway. From starting a war over a personal vendetta, to lying to Congress to fund it, this movie covers the how and why presidents do things far better than any McGraw-Hill textbook.
Make sure you point out to your son that the schemers in DC had no problem cutting off the satellite communications when their special forces team in the Colombian jungles became a liability. Also the concept of “whatever it takes to get a second term” is something your son should learn at a young age.
Even some aspects of game are presented in this movie. When the cartel intelligence officer seduces the secretary of a Washington bureaucrat in order to get the intelligence needed to stage an ambush, you can use as example to your son that women can be used for far more than just “playing doctor.”
4. Street Kings
This Keanu Reeves sleeper film is a pretty good un-sugarcoated look at how the police operate. I’m sure the D.A.R.E. officer at his school might have a problem with this, but then again he’s probably making $40 an hour to tell your son that marijuana is evil and asking him if his daddy has any cool guns at home.
In this movie a corrupt squad of cops does what they do in Los Angeles. Apparently one of these cops doesn’t actually have his eyes open to what is going on and is in itself is a learning point for your son. The fact that this corrupt squad has a leader with an actual grand strategy to attain political power is a very good teaching point, because if you’re doing something that doesn’t lead to anything there’s no point doing it. Not to give the movie away, but to counter this corruption the only method the LAPD can use is more corruption.
5. Harsh Times
This movie is another law enforcement-related drama set in Los Angeles. This time it’s an Afghan war veteran seeking employment as a police officer while he still kicks it in the hood during the hiring process. The Various examples of social agility and critical thinking are too numerous to mention here, but should give you many talking points to discuss with your son after watching it. This movie highlights what true friendship really is, and should give you the opportunity to explain that Johnny by the sandbox probably will not ride and die with him.
Conclusion
These five movies are a great example of how to use modern media to teach children the ways the world. Instead of bitching about the negative influence the TV or the movie screen has on your children, you could actually co-opt it for your own purposes. A picture really is worth 1,000 words, and by giving an audiovisual example of things it is far easier to explain concepts to young mind.
What are your top five movies? What subtle red pills can you find in them? And how would you go about using them to educate your sons?
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No mention of “Crimes and Misdemeanors?”
If the writeup is anything like the article, then the idea that “bad people” don’t always get “what’s coming to them” should be at the top of the list.
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Batman Begins, I thought that was his full name like ‘Bilbo Baggins’.
Fuck Hollywood and their degenerate toxic propaganda. If you have a son, go out and do physical activities with him or teach him a manly skill. Way too many parents just give their children a smartphone to play with because they’re too lazy to do any real parenting, watching a movie is only one level down from that.
I wouldn’t write off Hollywood so quickly. There are some gems that one can find in Hollywood’s movie roster (although its like finding a needle in a haystack). e.g. in 2014 Hollywood gave us alot of leftist garbage movies but I found that Gone Girl and Birdman were pretty red pill. I would say that the 60’s and the 70’s was the magnum opus in terms of movie productions with some gems here and there in the 80/90’s, things started to get alot worse in the late 2000′. Hitchcock may be dead but there are some directors like Nolan, Fincher and Scorsese that carry the torch of great mainstream movie productions.
“Hitchcock may be dead . . .”
. . . but your son doesn’t know that. Watch the old stuff with him, it’s all brand new to him.
True, my point was that there aren’t too many directors that put that level of effort, dedication, attention to detail and creativity when it comes to all the components of directing a movie e.g.symbols, themes, motifs, cinematography etc
Exactly. No one has to anymore with CGI and huge sales opportunities in Asia.
“There are some gems that one can find in Hollywood’s movie roster (although its like finding a needle in a haystack).”
You have to be a Director bigot. Checking who directed the film should always be the first thing you do after seeing its trailer, if not before in some cases (Eastwood, P.T. Anderson, Aronofsky, Refn, Tarantino, Spielberg…).
Yeah but combine the number of movies all the directors mentioned above, and than subtract it to the entire roster of movies produced since they’ve been directing and you’ll find that good movies come few and far between
Yes, win some, lose some. But they run rings around the rest of their Hollywood ilk.
I think it’s three times now that I didn’t follow your advice. Sat down for what looked like an appealing movie and got those four words that are the most terrifying in the movie industry;
“Directed by John Singleton”
FUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!! Stayed to watch the absolute train wreck and unintentional comedy and he always came through. Don’t tell him but he’s actually a comic genius.
Same goes for books. Same goes for music. Same goes for women. So what’s you point?
Yeah. I would push the dates up a little. I thought the eighties had some strong stuff and I’d say the mid-nineties (after Heat, Usual Suspects) was the start of the decline.
Heat. Great movie!
People always forget david cronenberg. Cosmopolis, his latest, was amazing.
Meh I think movies are just bad. They may inspire a bit of innovation and artistry but men should focus solely on books and social events. Men role models should be the ones in flesh and blood not fictional characters.
Many boys make the mistake of thinking thats how men get girls from movies and see the disaster that follows.
Telling your kid not to watch movies will be almost as effective as telling them not to listen to music. It won’t. Give them good options.
I’m not suggesting barring your son from watching films, just that there are better things to do to share your time with him.
so true!
A movie like Clear and Present Danger teaches that government only does bad things because of few bad actors but there is always a Harrison Ford/John Wayne/James Bond who makes things better.
No such person exists in the real world of govt.
I do partially agree. The best thing for a boy is to have a father that is a good role model I’m talking about a man with spine and not backing down on interactions in social events. A man that doesn’t crawl on his belly for his wife. If you are a father (god forbid why you became one) don’t act like a pussy around him when some jerk physically or verbally pushes you around. Show how you deal with business and how you push car dealers out of their own wit. A boy must have, courage, how to apply knowledge, self confidence, innovation and tenacity.
Right on. Fathers should BE the badass, not some b.s from the weasels of Hollywood that have rehashed and remade over and over. You can bet they’re gonna use some pussy p.c feminist friendly trendy actor and remake the Terminator movies. Scratch that they’re probably going to use an “empowered” female actress for the eventual terminator or Rambo remakes.
C’mon pal there’s more intelligent movies:
Apocalypse Now-plenty of red pill shit in that film
The Deer Hunter-shows the camaraderie that seems to vanish slowly from men nowadays
This is England-just watch it
Interstellar-just for the weirdness and general mind fuckness. I remember watching films that I didn’t understand when I was just a young gun and they hit home now.
Fight club
Saving Private Ryan
etc
Yes! How the fuck could Fight Club not be on the list!
Fight Club FTW
You are not the contents of your wallet. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are not your fucking khakis.
Brad Pitt in that movie is unbelievable!
This Is England… That was an intense film. Really liked it. Showed the nasty underbelly of a disenfranchised youth.
Goes without saying:
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Yes, dragged away kicking and screaming….
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Best film Intro ever.
If I had a son, one of the last things I would watch with him is yet another comic book movie adaptation. I don’t care if Nolan directed it.
Pirates of the Caribbean has a red pill theme to it. It’s not apparent at first glance and the hordes of blue pillers don’t see it.
Regardless, the sequels are excruciating. The first one was cool because it was actually unique.
I do agree, the sequels just dragged on but were cool if you were a kid.
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“It’s not who I am underneath, but what I do, that defines me.” – Batman Begins
This is the opposite of entitlement. A strong work ethic is necessary if you expect to be somebody. Everybody and their brother has potential in high school and college. Neglect this lesson if you want your son to be a waiter at age 30.
No Country for Old Men
The Godfather
Taxi Driver
The Matrix
Blade Runner
I like this list better.
Good list. We seen “Abduction” the other day, is pretty good. http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1600195/
Wooah. No kidding? I thought that was a horrid movie. The Taylor Lautner/Sigourney Weaver one? Wow. But to each their own.
The plot was kind of dumb and plenty of the usual hollywood crap. However there are some red pills in it. I liked how the boys stepfather raised him. The scene where they are sparring for example and then later the boy using the ass whooping he got as learned experience in defeating his attackers.
Well I’m glad you got something out of it. I loathe John Singleton and see him as exhibit A for why everyone loses with affirmative action. Anyway, I’m not having a go at you. I don’t care. But maybe you’re on the young side? I’m not trying to condescend but it’s possible that you have a whole world of incredible movies left to be discovered if you thought this was a good movie. I envy you. It’s like when a kid doesn’t know who Led Zeppelin is. I feel envy for what they have in store for them. Once again, it’s hard to say this without coming across as condescending but there are a lot of better movies than this. Movies from the 70’s, 80’s and, I’d say, up to the mid-nineties have a lot more crafting, balance, thought etc. When CGI, international box office access and leftist politics ran over the film industry, the quality started to plummet imo. Hell, it’s not my opinion. That’s a fact. Go into the seventies and eighties. Deliverance, First Blood, Southern Comfort, Red Dawn.
A couple of good ones that I wanted to add:
Man on Fire
Restrepo
Two good movies displaying how men can get shit done (the mission) even when they are “down”…but not out.
The first one, an individual, and the second one as a group of men.
Love Man on Fire
Man On Fire is a great choice. I like the way it ended as well. Haven’t seen Restrepo. But on your recommendation I’m gonna check it out.
Well put, Driver. Restrepo and it’s sequel Korengal. As a former Marine (Restrepo was Army bubbas), inform your children. These two films are perfect examples of everything that is war.
“Arrows cost money… the dead cost nothing”
-King Edward
Braveheart
These men lived in “The Suck” and, contrary to popular opinion, are not machines. They feel everything the same as we do.
The Capt. is a perfect example of someone completely out of their element when diplomacy and tact with the Afghan civilian population are desperately needed. His brash and aggressive dealings with the Elders are almost frightening when you contemplate how a “cornered dog” reacts to danger.
Make no mistake about it. I AM NOT hammering members of the armed services. I only believe that this is an example of the reality of life and death that I want not to be overlooked.
Respect is an “old world” philosophy. Something that comes easily when you live in small communities as many Afghans do. And respect is very important to them. To have one’s village patrolled by foreigners who simply don’t know how to behave according to one’s own traditions and values is enough to set a fire under anyone’s ass.
Imagine for an instant that it was your lands, farms, livestock and culture that were going to be taken over by Face Book, Twitter, Keisha, and Instagram. What would you do? That answer is simple, you would fight it, just as you fight now to overcome the idiocy that has become “Western culture”.
It’s Vietnam all over again. Rules of engagement? Make the war impossible to win. Check. Continue buying $2,200,000,000 stealth bombers. Check. All the while our brothers, OUR BROTHERS, get ripped to fucking shit by IEDs made from the last invasion of Afghanistan. Remember that? The Russians? I think the CIA had a part in that too… Hard to recall.
At least there are the Dept. of Veteran Affairs (a bureaucracy lousy with corruption and scandal since it’s inception) and “non-profit” organizations like Wounded Warrior Project that will continue the propaganda and assure us that war is an acceptable part of American society. Yes, America uses propaganda. We have days dedicated to celebrating how much better we are then everyone else.
It’s never been about anything but the money. The more civilized war becomes, the more willing we are to accept it. This war is not about freedom vs terror, or good vs evil. Freedom? Is that what you call this? I can’t have a bonfire or a grill on any “public” beach anymore. I can’t hunt large game but a few weeks a year in any given state. I pay 30% of my income so everyone can think they are equal and have cell phones and WiFi? ‘Cause those “THINGS” will make you happy.
What did and currently do our boys die for? Tell me, what is freedom? I don’t know, but I’ll know it when I see it.
Am I the only person in the world who didn’t enjoy NCfOM?
No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood need mentioning in the same breath.
Here is a list of great action movies to watch with your son:
-Predator
-Commando
-Rocky series
-Rambo series
-Terminator series
-Deathwish series
-The Godfather series
-Apocalypse Now
-The Departed
-Infernal Affairs
-Speed
-Training Day
-Blood Diamond
The list is endless. There are so many great movies to watch with your son and make sure that he gets a good dosage of action movies as this helps to instill masculinity.
To add on
6. The Matrix- A great way to introduce him to red pill philosophies/ mindsets etc.
7.Godfather trilogy- Importance of family values/ being a leader.
8.Whiplash- What it takes to be great.
9.Gone with a wind- A timeless classic, red pill in terms of male/female dynamics
10. The Truman Show- commentary on big brother.
11. Eyes wide shut- red pill in terms of the dynamics of sexual repression and desire in the context of a marriage.
12. Gone Girl- Red pill in terms of 21st Century marriage, the media and the court of public opinion and how captain save a ho’s get played
Great choices but I don’t think i’d be ready to watch Eyes Wide Shut with Frankie jr, heh.
Now that’s a better list!
American Beauty
Fight Club
You could throw in pretty much every 80s/90s action movie. They sure don’t make manly movies like that anymore.
I see some suggesting Fight Club, Godfather, and other deep movies. While I think they’re fantastic, a boy below the age of a teen’s wouldn’t really be that interested in that kind of stuff. At least I wasn’t.
The only movie I remember my father actually sitting me down and making me watch was American Graffiti. Might explain my love of 60’s pop and Wolfman Jack.
My old man was also a vet and the only Vietnam movie he would watch was Good Morning Vietnam. He said he lived it and wanted to remember the fun parts, not rewatch the gruesome parts. He also taught me a valuable life lesson “to whatever you can to avoid the military.”
Also, make the investment in these documentaries, both on DVD and the books:
Civilization; Sir Kenneth Clark
Connections: James Burke
Civilization is reasonably priced (in the fact the book is going for four bucks shipped in used, good condition).
Connections is pricey and currently only available new for the first season, but even just the first season is worth it.
As a forty-something, some of the movies I remember dad either showing me on video or taking me to see in theaters back in the 70s and 80s:
Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Castle Keep
Kelly’s Heroes
Force Ten from Navarone
Support Your Local Gunfighter
Support Your Local Sheriff
Animal House
Slap Shot
The Spy Who Loved Me
Moonraker
For Your Eyes Only
The Empire Strikes Back
War of the Worlds (the original)
The Thing (again, the original)
Flash Gordon
Predator
I’m sure there were more, but those are the ones which stuck in my head…
Finally some comedy in somebody’s list. Do people who this site ever laugh? My children will have Caddyshack memorized by 12 years old.
Ghostbusters. To demonstrate how STEM is a shitload more important than the EPA or accountancy.
Exactly!!!! Bill Murray is a god.
I hate the modern day “It must have a moral and be educational to be considered good” mentality. If a movie isn’t entertaining it’s shit. I don’t care how many oscars it got (Crash, 12 Years a Slave, I’m looking at you).
Murray’s first flick when he was camp counselor is a good one too…
Meat balls , spazz spazz spazz spazz
Only because 99 out of every 100 comedies are godawful. Well, 98. You can always find one great one and one mediocre one amongst the terrible.
Kudos for mentioning Kelly’s Heroes and Support Your Local Sheriff.
Dear old dad was never into Brit humor. I found Monty Python through my grandmother, of all things.
Finally, movies from before 1980. Right with you on the Man with No Name Series and the Support Your… Series. Greatly under-appreciated. Come on men of ROK, the golden age of film existed long before Star Wars hit the screen. (Which at any rate, was only the 2nd best movie of the summer of ’77, after Smokey and the Bandit.)
The Untouchables (Yeah it’s 1987)
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
The Big Country (1958)
The Searchers (1955)
McLintock! (1963)
The Comancheros (1961)
The Christmas Carol (1951 version with Alastair Sim)
Joyeux Noel (2004 film about the 1914 Christmas Truce)
The Wind that Shakes the Barley (2006)
The Quiet Man (1952)
Any of the Road to… Pictures (1940s)
Patton (1970)
The Blue Max (1966)
True Grit (1968 version)
The Producers (1967 version)
55 Days at Peking (1963)
Arsenic and Old Lace (1944)
My Man Godfrey (1936)
The Thin Man (1934)
It Happened One Night (1934)
A clip from the last one….gotta love Gable’s interaction with Colbert.
My Man Godfrey made me think of the original Danny Kaye version of The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. As I recall, it’s basically about a beta who dreams of becoming an alpha, and then finally tells the domineering women in his life to fuck of and actually becomes alpha.
Don’t forget “The Guns of Navarrone”
I didn’t forget it, dad just never introduced it to me. I *did* forget Forbidden Planet though, which was one of dad’s favorites of all time. “Monsters of the id…”
Thanks, now it’s time for me to dig out the VHS. Some of my additions to your list
Paths of Glory
Gallipoli
A Bridge Too Far
Outlaw Josey Wales
Glory
Mad Max
The Road Warrior
The Outlaw Josie Wales
One hundred times yes.
And Pale Rider, for religious instruction.
One of my favourites – classic movie.
Meh. The good, the bad, and the ugly is far superior.
For a Few Dollars More is the best of those movies. Lee Van Cleef steals the show, despite Clint Eastwood’s coolness and El Indio’s scenery chewing crazed ass villain. Most evil villain in any film period.
Escape from New York
Snake is the man.
The eternal question, to guide your life:
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And the answer is always: push the button and surf on the tidal wave.
Attempt armed robbery and get caught?
Touché.
Although I can counter with, “What would George Costanza do?”
The question is neutral with regards to how the answer informs your behaviour.
For my son:
1) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 1990
2) Scent of a Woman
3) Terminator
4) Stand By Me
5) Karate Kid
There is just enough child like flavor to get him into it, and plenty of grit to inspire him to ask questions. Plus very great aspects to learn from. Follow your own way but never let your emotions control you. Know this world will always look to see the best you. What you do will always be better than what you copy. Even family will betray you but even so, don’t betray yourself. Death is not to be feared, a sheltered life is. And at times we will be drawn to a higher calling. Be brave and face all problems individually.
good one “stand by me” Excellent…
If you’re gonna let your son watch Terminator and Karate Kid, you must expose him to Rocky.
6. Field of Dreams. 7. Shawshank Redemption 8. Karate Kid 9. The Dark Knight (Consider the Joker as the female Id).
Patton
Shawshank Redemption. Enough said.
No. Teaching your son to take lessons from movies produces the retards I see who act like the camera’s on them all the time. This sedentary shit is emasculating my country. Tell your son that movies are fake and represent the biases of their writers and directors, and to go find his guidance from successful mentors, which will also help him network to become successful in the future.
Couldn’t one make the same argument about books just pushing the views of their authors? Like the article says use what you can to your advantage.
No, when reading a book you have to think about the information while you are processing it. “Seeing” something can trick the mind into thinking it is real. When reading you can think of the alternate views, while when watching you simply don’t see it and can fall victim to assuming the alternate views don’t exist. This is why television has managed to divide a country of many hundreds of millions of people so easily.
Which is why, like I said, many people act as if they are in the middle of a movie. It is a huge character flaw to be so transparently fake; authority figures will take it as immaturity and hold you back for it. They think of themselves as some heroic individual, and from lacking social experience do not realize that they come across as inexperienced children. The only people who want that for children are propagandists.
I’ve mostly given up on Hollywood but I don’t include old favorites in my boycott. So I’m going to add mine. Some of mine have to do with segments of the movies and certain characters and not necessarily the full narratives message.
Heat and the Neil McCauley character (DeNiro), especially his dialogue with Pacino.
“Don’t get attached to anything
you can’t walk out on in 30 seconds…
…if you feel the heat around the corner.”
Hi Douglas,
Good write up. Great premise of using hollyweird against the fascists. Turn their indoctrination against them with proper parental guidance.
The black and white “one eye Jack’s ” with Marlon brando. Watchmen and Fight Club are good social commentary. Requiem (sic) for a Dream, the slippery slope of drugs. And for red pill comedy I suggest “Waiting. ” Of course “Matrix. ” no movie will be perfect red-pill info, for that your son needs to read Roosh, Rollio and the like.
Best,
CapitalXD
Hitman.
Leon (The Professional).
I, The Jury.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
Up in Smoke (Cheech and Chong).
Lost Boys (Sean Penn).
The Pope of Greenwich Village.
Bullet.
Stripes.
Animal House.
Highly recommend “Kingsman: The Secret Service”, has elements of loyalty and coming of age. Also The Matrix trilogy for sure.
They Live
Cinderella Man
The Count of Monte Cristo
Snatch
Fight Club
They Live – absolute classic.
The neverending fight scene in the alley is hilarious. Just keeps going, and going, and going….
I was aching for Piper to get the bald black dude with a fold-up chair
That ongoing fight scene from They Live (between characters played by Roddie Piper and Keith David) was accurately recreated blow by blow in an episode of South Park as a fight between Timmy and Jimmy, pretty hilarious.
In the original scene, Piper’s Canadian accent is pretty funny when he’s saying “Put on the glasses”.
The scene is an awesome metaphor for what it takes to get some people, even friends, to start to see the truth.
Keith David was also great in Platoon, Men At Work, and There’s Something About Mary, and was, ah, interesting in Requiem For A Dream.
“The scene is an awesome metaphor for what it takes to get some people, even friends, to start to see the truth”
I never saw it that way. Nice interpretation.
The Usual Suspects and the character of Khyser Soze.
First Blood and the character of Rambo. The rest of the series turned into a bloodbath of action. But First Blood was a complete, very complete, movie with real craftmanship with the plot, backstory, arc, etc. Extraordinary film-making that gets forgotten by association (obv) with the over the top series of sequels that weren’t nearly as thoughtful.
Recent movie;
The American. I watched it and walked away thinking it was a yawner to the point of being bizarre. But I couldn’t get it out of my head. Watched it again and a lot of the credit for that is that incredible, natural beauty of the Italian girl. Read the book it’s based on, “A Very Private Gentleman” by Martin Booth and I have to say it’s about my favorite red pill character. The movie takes the romance aspect to blue pill lengths. Okay, it kind of has to. But the book stays more red pill with the romance though there is some blue-pillish sentiment. But that shouldn’t distract from what an icon of red pill life the character is; Quiet, fit, unknown, dedicated to a craft, ruthless, mobile, well-dressed, financially independent, succinct in speech, off the grid, involved with young women for physical reasons only (this changes a bit, meh) He’s a character that has the world at his disposal and is comfortable with a new name anywhere he goes. Great book and a great character to expose yourself to.
Right “The American” with George Clooney…good choice.
Sir , check out the recent movie called “Locke”…real good. Thomas Hardy is the new Brando….
I’ll tread warily. I’ve sworn off Hollywood but if the research looks good I’ll give it a shot.
“First Blood and the character of Rambo.”
If you liked the movie, you’ll probably enjoy even more the book that the movie was based on, by David Morrell. Tight reading, and well worth it.
Oh yeah. I’ve read it 4 or 5 times by now over the years. I like a lot of other Morrell books too but there are some real duds by him too. The most recent one was one of the worst I’ve ever read. He’s turned into a James Patterson type, I think. But First Blood was full metal nuts. What does that mean? Sounds right though.
Clooney’s Italian female co- star is stunning. Only thing I remember about that movie…
I know. It was dull as hell the first time I watched it but then it just got to me, especially after reading the book.
also thirteen assassins
My current list would be:
1) The Road (Cormac McCarthy)
2) Collateral (Tom Cruise & Jamie Foxx)
3) Godfather I and II ( sequel added as aid to observe the evolution of Michael Corleone)
4) Good, Bad & The Ugly
5) Monthy Python & The Holy Grail
Dude The Road would make a child suicidal.
Some of the movies you guys list would be better for a son as he becomes a young man. Watching Godfather with an 18 yr makes more sense than a 12 yr old.
I cant think of a better movie for a boy as he becomes a teenager than Stand By Me.
Heh, a little before my time but I’ve heard good things about it. I’ll add Stand By Me to my list. That’s based on a Stephen King book, right? I’m wondering if i should add Stephen King’s IT to that list…
Yep. He also wrote Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile.
Stand By Me was based on Stephen King’s story “The Body”. For bonus points, it’s in the same book — Different Seasons — as Shawshank Redemption is. (There are four stories in that volume. Three were made into films. The third, Apt Pupil, was also made into a very dark film with Ian McKellen.
IT is well worth the read, too, for remembering the feel of your lost childhood. Makes for an interesting companion piece to Stand By Me, actually. IT was also made into a seriously “meh” TV series with Tim Curry freely chewing scenery as the villain; your mileage may vary.
Appreciate your sharing. Always look forward to digging into some rich stuff. Thank you.
Just watched another underrated movie based on a King story- Hearts in Atlantis. I hope he gets the credit he deserves at some point, he wasnt just a horror writer.
Oh, if you liked Hearts in Atlantis you really should start reading the Dark Tower series.
The Great Escape. Not a woman to be seen for 140 minutes, and male stoicism, endurance, commitment and ingenuity all round from a diverse group of nationalities: Polish, Australian, American, British, and Scottish (yes, I class the last as a separate country.)
Will admitting I have never seen it get me banned from this site?
Yes. But admitting you have a problem is the first step to solving the problem! 🙂
Steve McQueen & Charles Bronson among others….real men. The best part is the film was based on an actual tunneling effort during the Second World War. Real life.
It’s not some made up ‘you go girl’ propaganda piece.
1.Rocky
2. The Man Who Would be King
3. The Wind and the Lion
4. Gran Torino
5. The Undefeated
6. The Searchers
7. The Alamo (including the most recent version)
8. High Noon
9. 12 O’clock High
10. Das Boot
11. Lord of the Rings trilogy
12. 300
13. The French Connection
14. Papillon
15. Spartan ( Val Kilmer starring when he wasn’t a fat ass. Directed by David Mamet)
16. RedBelt ( also directed by David Mamet)
Worth mentioning:
For your little guy – Meet The Robinsons by Steve Anderson
For your teen – Frequency by Gregory Hoblit, Apocalypto by Mel Gibson, The Right Stuff by Philip Kaufman and General della Rovere by Roberto Rossellini
Frequency is a grossly underrated movie.
Another one i’m gonna have to add now. Heard of it. Haven’t seen it.
Apocalypto is great
Movies to watch with your son as he hits puberty:
The Right Stuff
Stand By Me
Apollo 13
Rush (about the Grand Prix driver)
The Pink Panther movies
The Natural
The Sting
Movies that are magical or about someone achieving/overcoming or just plain silly work better with younger boys IMO.
I wouldnt watch a movie like Taxi Driver with my dad as an adult.
You’re a Big Boy Now
The Night Porter
Midnight Cowboy
The Knack
The Rise and Fall Of Colonel Blimp
The Browning Version (original with Michael Redgrave)
The Last Holiday (with Alec Guiness not the absurd remake with the obese black bitch)
The Graduate
The Lover (with Jane March)
White—-Three Colours ’92(White is part of a trilogy by Polish director Krzysztof Kieślowski)
Virtigo
Once Upon a Time In America (’84) (watch the original which is 4 hrs long)
I think the purpose of these lists that people are compiling and I’ve put films that others haven’t mentioned is not that every film on them is a top film but these are films that have a certain ambience which is quite different from what you’re accustomed to. You may call them red pill but at the time they were made (many not that long ago and even a few newer ones) this was simply normal behaviour. There are hundreds of them and many are sort of censored and may look old fashioned so you have to read between the lines. Watch one a day for a year and see how your thinking and attitude changes, that’s my experiment.
Hitchcock films
Film Noir
Manchurian Candidate(original 1962)
Lolita (original Sue Lyon)It’s really Kubrick’s version and doesn’t follow the book entirely and of course censored but some of it is funny.
Sleepers
French Connection
9 1/2 Weeks
Angel Heart
Alfie (Michael Caine version)
Room at The Top(’59)
Butterfield 8 (Liz Taylor was a high priced Ho but it’s censored so she’s supposed to be like a ‘model’)
Carried Away 1996 (Dennis Hopper)
12 Angry Men
Patterns
Man In the Grey Flannel Suit
*some of these films are a bit gritty and are in black and white and are unlike what you see today but as I said it’s the ambience I’m going for)
Really shit list of films. Here’s a better list:
1. Terminator 2 – because it’s cool.
2. Aliens – because it’s cool.
3. Predator – because it’s cool.
4. Fight Club – because it’s cool.
5. Idiocracy – because it’s the truth.
If you’re watching films with your son, fuck morals, just watch cool shit.
Learn some game boys
Nothing but pompous noisy movies inflated by steroids and cocaine with nothing of substance on the inside.
300
Last of the Mohicans
Gladiator
Braveheart
Black Hawk down
Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood!
Just kidding…
The John Milius-directed RED DAWN.
Every time it’s watched a progressive chokes to death gargling his boyfriend’s balls.
I have too many to count. But I’m thinking about The Raid: Redemption right now. It’s about getting the job done. Mind blowing movie.
Fight Club
Nice piece. Good idea. Here are some of mine off the top of my head:
The Departed (about the price of justice. restored)
Death Wish
Taxi Driver
Runaway Train (epic)
Runaway Jury (even though it’s anti-gun. great conversation starter)
Deliverance
300
Sin City
Book Of Eli
Road Warrior
Unstoppable (men being men in a woman’s world)
The Bounty (with Bligh as the hero a/or anti-hero, because he’s too tough to die)
The World’s Fastest Indian (follow your dream, or be a cabbage)
Moneyball (the first one through the wall, gets bloody)
The Book of Eli. Great choice.
The De-PAHHH-id
Interesting list. Batman Begins is indeed an excellent film. The rest I will make sure to watch whenever I get a chance. I would also like to reccommend watching Kingdom of Heaven: Extenden Version. The historical value of this film is something that astounds me, and how it remains so underrated as well. The Third Crusade is very well recreated, the holy lands, the armies, locations, people. The main character is also admirable in how he does not relinquish his personal beliefs and morals, even when great power is offered to him. A must watch.
“The historical value of this film is something that astounds me, and how it remains so underrated as well.”
That’s because you watched the extended version, not the butchered-to-fuck “film” that was sent to cinemas.
Any movie that shows violence in the process of getting your own back/revenge for having been wronged by an arsehole or bunch of arseholes.
Ransom.
It’s a damn shame they railroaded Mel Gibson, he did some bang up fine work and was really starting to shine as a major force when he started directing. The treachery of women should be the lesson taken from his incident. Everybody has a bad day, and she recorded his surreptitiously and broadcast it to the world, the cunt.
She fucked him good and hard, all planned of course, as we all know. He was really shining – even look at something like Apocalypto – well done, great story. She’s a good lesson in not trusting an eastern block woman, which so many guys seem to be so crazy about on here at the moment. Not to mention the folly of an older man……………
A lot of people are listing some great ones that are among my favorites. Some underrated ones from the 80s: To Live and Die in LA, 3 O’Clock High, Bloodsport
The siege of fire base Gloria with ( R lee emery) and (wings hauser )
As a child I loved Cool Runnings – amazing lessons, love how they perservere against all odds. My favourite scenes are junior growing a pair “look in the mirror what do you see?” And when they cross the finish line, that look on the rival team’s face and the dad crying with pride. my favourite film funny and red pill all the way.
Dad showed us Die Hard and pretty much all the Bruce Lee films. Watched all of these so many times. Will show my son these films when he’s a bit older. He has already seen cool runnings though when he was 6.
Also, every movie with Clint Eastwood in it.
I’ll skip over Bridges Of Madison County actually.
The Bronx Tale is a good one.
Dr. Zhivago
The Third Man
Silverado
Tears of the Sun
Die Hard
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Unforgiven
Street Kings is a pretty good movie. Seems like no one I know knows about it though except me and my friend who love Keanu movies. Lot of cool gun shit in that movie as well.
As for Platoon, is there a character in all of movies better than Sgt. Barnes?
1. Fight Club (best quote ever: “We’re a generation of men raised by women, I’m wondering if another woman is really the answer we need.”)
2. 300
3. The Warriors (1979)
4. The Hunting Groud (jk) lol
4. American Sniper
5.Bad Grandpa
A couple of honorable mentions: Caddy Shack, This is 40 (as a cautionary tale), and End of Watch
Don’t forget classic television shows and movies from the 1950s and older decades.
The first two seasons of The Lone Ranger, and all of the Roy Rogers movies are great for boys. They provide examples of real masculinity, teach good morals, feature plenty of feminine women, and sometimes show defiant women being put in their place.