When I moved to the South as a teenager I got a glimpse of race relations up close for the first time in my life, and one thing that quickly became surprisingly evident was the disdain black people had for white people. This wasn’t the case with everyone but the undercurrent of their resentment was noticeable.
Then I went to college where diversity, love, togetherness, and every other feel good cause were front and center and that seemed to change my hunch for a while. But when I left and went back to the real world it was right back in my face.
Diversity! Feeeelzzz! Justice!
Living in more than a dozen states over the last 20 years was enough of a sample size for me to draw the conclusion that blacks might very well be more racist than whites. My second stint in a certain city put the nail in the coffin.
The ATL
Those who have read my columns know and understand that I don’t exactly hold Atlanta in the highest regard. It’s not a terrible city because it does have its perks (such as the abundance of Latinas in and around the city) but by and large I’m not the biggest fan of The Big Peach.
The main reason I left after just 6 months my second time around was because of the black people. The victim mentality, ghettos, criticism of anything not related to black culture, and a shitload of other things got old quick.
What set the tone for my short stay was when a coworker of mine was on his usual soapbox about how black people were “oppressed” and that racism was at an all time high—the usual bullshit that people like him talked about ’round the clock.
I grew increasingly tired of his preaching so rather than trying to have a conversation with him about it (which I knew wouldn’t do any good), I showed him a video to let him know that we may not have it as bad as people in other countries:
His response? “Well we have it worse here because racism is covert. At least they keep it real over there and say it to your face.”
Un. Fucking. Believable.
These conversations were a regular occurrence with this idiot and unfortunately his mentality was prevalent in this city.
Another huge problem in Atlanta is that black people purposely separate themselves from other races. It seemed that they only associated with blacks whether it be socially, in their business dealings, religiously, or anything else they could think of. Even the shows they watch are predominantly black.
Sure, the black population down there is higher than most major cities which factors in. But how the hell can these people complain about segregation and the importance of diversity if they’re the ones actively separating themselves?
Black women DESPISE white women
Best believe she hates white girls
Years ago my ex wife and I were at mass, and in front of us sat a black woman and her two daughters. It was still early so people were still filing into their seats and awaiting the priest to make his appearance and start the proceedings.
Just before things got started a white family took their seats next to the black family. Nothing out of the ordinary there…except for the fact that the two young black girls looked at the blonde white girl with a disgust that was so pronounced my wife and I exchanged uncomfortable glances.
The sad part about this is that those two black girls were too young to dislike the white girl simply because of her pale skin. The hard truth is they’re being indirectly (and probably also directly) taught to hate white people by their mother, their culture, and everything they consume.
Those two little girls will grow up to shoot dirty looks at white girls and complain to each other that they are stealing “their men.” This mindset will permeate all of their thoughts and actions. Before they know it they’ll start to blame white people for all of their “struggles,” especially their lack of romantic options.
They can say whatever they want but this is the real reason black women hate on Kim K
Even my own mother would turn up her nose at my white high school girlfriends. These days she’s much more laid back about my choice in female companionship (age, introspection, and perspective will do that) but she never passed up the opportunity to ask “Why can’t you find a nice African-American girl, Donovan?” I never answered because I knew I’d earn a swift hand to the face.
This article is but a sliver of the pie that is the prevailing attitude about black men like myself who date outside our race. The title alone is all you need to know about where they stand on this issue.
Fatally obsessed with women of a lighter persuasion, Tiger Woods might be the only one on this list who actually has a medical condition. Woods has had more blonde prostitutes than a season’s worth of “Game Of Thrones.” Still, after losing a hefty $100 million in his divorce settlement, he swiftly scooped up another one to share the rest of his riches.
The sooner black women accept and understand that their lack of dating options isn’t because of white girls (or any other race for that matter) the better off they’ll be.
Legally speaking
Remember the O.J. Verdict? Remember the outright glee black people reacted with when the verdict was read? Remember how uncomfortable we were watching people celebrate that someone had gotten away with murder just because he was black?
The Simpson trial was not only the trial of the century, it shined a spotlight on how black people in this country really felt about whites. The fact that this occurred only a few short years after the Rodney King incident and in the same geographical area only heightened the blood lust for “one of ours” to get over on “one of theirs.”
Let’s face it. They had O.J. dead to rights. All the evidence pointed to his guilt (except for these) but because of the exploits of Mark Fuhrman, an obviously tainted jury pool trying to “make up” for what happened to King, and the best criminal defense lawyer money could buy, Simpson walked.
The most infamous mug shot of the 20th century
In an honest moment any reasonable person, black or white, would tell you he should have been convicted. Yet, to this day blacks still declare that he didn’t do it (including the wannabe Malcolm X I showed the above video to) knowing damn well they wouldn’t bet dollars to death on his innocence.
The cases of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown are also prime examples where the fact that both of them being black clouded the common sense and judgement of black people. Race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson didn’t waste any time stoking the flames of racism to line their pockets and increase their prominence in the public eye.
Is it a tragedy that both of these young men were killed as teenagers? Of course it is. Nobody’s disputing that. But similar to the feminist agenda, the problem is in the narrative and this ROK article could not have stated it any better:
Janay Rice wasn’t sitting on the couch minding her own business when Ray walked up and punched her in the face. Rihanna wasn’t making pancakes when Chris Brown walked in the kitchen and slapped the shit out of her.
Brown and Martin weren’t sitting under trees studying for midterms when accosted by their would-be assassins. This isn’t to say they deserved to die, but they most certainly were not innocent little snowflakes minding their own business.
And thanks to people like Louis Farrakhan, black people have a blind rage without knowing all of the facts which only further deepens the racial divide.
All they have to hear is “white man shoots black man” and they instantly jump to outrage because of the dangerous precedents set by the chronicling of comparable events of the past.
The gross exploitation of a double standard
Black people publicly talk shit about white people (and other races) on the regular and most people don’t say anything about it. Whether it’s out of fear or social pressure, anything that remotely resembles racism towards blacks is avoided like the plague.
Fellow columnist and friend Blair Naso is my go-to guy for anecdotes on race issues. Having lived in the South a combined 40+ years we often swap stores and have great conversations. Naso’s right in the thick of things down there so he’s able to offer accurate, detailed accounts of race related events.
One such conversation was the genesis of this column and when I asked Naso’s opinion on this he didn’t pull any punches:
Which of the two is more racist in actuality? I’m not sure. But most white racism is benign, whereas black racism often hurts people. They’ll gun you down for being white and walking on their side of town and then justify it because of slavery.
Well said.
Blacks, on the other hand, are given a free pass to use all sorts of racial slurs but the moment someone of a different race even broaches the subject of a possible pitfall of the black race, we get up in arms.
Good question, Captain…
Political correctness is the shield blacks hide behind—that’s “pussy pass” in neomasculine-ese. They know that if a caucasian insinuates a racial element in any given situation they’ll be attacked and sometimes eviscerated. Whereas if black people do the same thing, they’re often defended by the hamster wheel of the culture and media and exonerated of any wrong doing.
Case in point: The Donald Sterling scandal. For those unfamiliar with this story, the long and short of it is Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling was recorded by his mistress during a racial tirade. This set off a media firestorm which ultimately led to the team being taken from Sterling and subsequently sold to former Microsoft CEO Steve Balmer.
I can say with near 100% certainty that if Sterling was black and made these comments about white people he’d still have his team.
While I don’t agree with Sterling’s world view, I strongly disagreed with him being stripped of his team because of his views. I’m willing to bet he’s not the only owner who shares his perspective (on some level at least). But the only difference between them and Sterling is that Sterling voiced his politically incorrect opinion on front of a woman who violated his privacy and made it public.
Sterling with the woman who would eventually betray him
A spin-off of this saga was a statement made by Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban in the midst of the Sterling story gaining traction:
If I see a black kid in a hoodie and it’s late at night, I’m walking to the other side of the street. And if on that side of the street, there’s a guy that has tattoos all over his face–white guy, bald head, tattoos everywhere–I’m walking back to the other side of the street.
Once again the PC Police reared its ugly head and Cuban was predictably crucified for his remarks. There were a few that publicly defended him but by and large his comment was not taken very well. Nevermind the fact that he used a white person in one of his examples. All blacks heard was “black kid,” “hoodie,” and “other side of the street” and we lost our minds.
Black people in this country know and exploit this double standard ad nauseam, and black comedians and actors are no different. They literally trade on this double standard and use it to make quite a nice living for themselves while similar acts would all but end the careers of whites in this field. Remember this little gaffe?
Muslims and Panthers and colored people OH MY!
Two groups in particular have made it crystal clear they have no intention of improving relations with whites: The New Black Panther Party and Black American-born Muslims. We’ll get to the NBP in a minute but let me be clear here about Muslims in this country: I’m not talking about the ones that are born and raised in Muslim nations. I’m talking about blacks in this country that convert to Islam.
Funny thing is, most black American Muslims I’ve talked to seem to have one thing in common: the utter hatred of white people.
My first stint in Atlanta showed me how crazy these “converts” were when one knucklehead had the gall to say “Osama bin Ladin is a great man!” in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. I immediately knew what he was playing at so I coolly shrugged my shoulders and asked “Well why is that? What great things has he done?”
Silence. He didn’t have an answer because I was supposed to fly off the handle and start spewing the red white and blue blues and scream at him for betraying ‘Murica. All his statement was designed to do was illicit a reaction. It wasn’t to educate or inform me. The guy just wanted to piss me off because I poked holes in his “philosophies” and he threw a Hail Mary to try and win the argument…just like a woman.
These people are unbearable
Believe it or not, the New Black Panther Party is worse. Formerly led by the outwardly racist crackpot Malik Zulu Shabazz (who felt the need to shed his “slave name” Paris S. Lewis), the NBP has a well earned reputation for the ridiculous notions they abide by.
How crazy are they you ask? These loons backed Crystal Mangum when she accused three Duke LaCrosse players of gang raping her. That’s pretty fucking crazy in my book.
Note: (Dis) honorable mention goes to the NAACP who is as guilty as any group out there for fanning the flames of racism.
Conclusion
Racism is real and it exists. I get it. I certainly don’t blame older Black Americans who lived through the Civil Rights Movement and still bear the scars of past racism. That shit was tough to get through (thank God for Martin Luther King, Jr.) so I can understand if blacks of generations past still carry that resentment with them.
However, any black person who didn’t live in that era and have the audacity to squawk about reparations, “the man,” equality, or anything related to race as it pertains to black people are as bad, if not worse, than feminists as far as I’m concerned. Feminists ask “where have all the good men gone” but do nothing to improve themselves as women. That mentality is no different than blacks who “fight the power” on a daily basis.
Blacks act like we’re living in this age
Hell, we even shame our own when one of us doesn’t toe the proverbial company line. Charles Barkley has been the target of harsh criticism for calling out the looters in Ferguson (to which he responded in kind).
Similarly, Dr. Ben Carson is also looked at as something of a villain in the black community simply because he is unafraid to publicly criticize President Obama and doesn’t buy into the bullshit ideals of cooks like Shabazz or “Dr.” Jeremiah Wright and makes no bones about it.
Improving race relations in America is going to take a seismic shift of epic proportions in American culture. White people have been reigned in (mostly) on racist action and speech. It is high time blacks are held to the same standard. If more of us took the Barkley or Carson approach to life we’d be a lot better off as a people.
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Yes. Next question.
What about pro-white racist blacks like this? Approve [^] or not approve [v]?
No. Maybe there is a better question to be asked which is why this kind of article is good. However, to propose that black people are more racist, excuse me what? What of the in between’ers who equally hate black culture, white culture, but bite their tongue because of income concerns? Or the whites who will speak to high heavens of lower IQ, brain size, and genetics for proof of superiority? I’m sure twelve will be all the more trigger happy just to comment because someone mentions this article. What you are speaking to is what happens when a piece of the information is given and the bulk is hidden. The question should be whom is influenced best by propaganda as opposed to who is most racist. But this article may do what it was intended to do, bring up a race debate. I’ll recede with my popcorn now. Where’s my butter?
I live in Denmark. White capital of the world, or close enough. We welcome anyone, no matter their origin. But we do so on the idea that they will live according to our laws and customs. They, in fact, do not.
If they did, we wouldn’t care where they are from, nigger. But as they do not, we suffer under our own generosity.
The North will fall, because our politicians do not understand how the world works.
Guess, that was an attempt at offense. If so kudos.
Race bating is an interesting tool used by many to mask real issues. So, I’m supposed to focus on skin color when you won’t be a threat to me but your brother might. This is the exact argument feminist use to displace power and claim all men are rapists, or don’t you see that.
Laws of a country are one area that needs to be addressed. If laws aren’t abided by of course the best course of action is to remove the obstruction. However, you are speaking of the same criminal element of most races, the poor and uneducated. To assume black means poor and uneducated is humorous at worst.
the immigrants that come within our borders cost us more than the average local could possibly imagine. It, they, maybe you, will be our downfall. And nobody cares.
That is unfortunate. Kind of what being red pill is all about, assessing the truth and taking your stand in regards to it.
Isn’t your country overrun with muslims who demand that your society adapt to THEIR culture? And isn’t your society pretty much saying “ok” to that??
I cannot walk into a music store and locate entire racks of music where the artists by and large call each other “Cracker” while high fiving, and talk about shooting blacks cops as if it were their birthright.
The same cannot be said for the inverse.
Blacks are just as if not more racist than any other race. It’s time to stop kowtowing the Leftist line of the noble poor put upon savage. Black men are men and just as fallible as any other man, and open to the same sins and foibles. Saying that there are white racists is true, but wasn’t the question being asked. We’re told day in and day out that ol’ Whitey is a mean bastard racist, while everybody else is allowed to throw out racist insults directly without consequences, as long as it’s directed at whites, preferably men.
I could have given two shits about any race crap up to even ten years ago. Now the MSM bombards me day and night with messages that I’m evil, stupid and wrong simply because of the color of my skin. I’d ideally love to not ever hear a racial epithet again in my life. But it’s not easy to not notice a double standard at play.
and that’s the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about, today…the double standard. I call out all people as being responsible adults. We have both women and black people in high levels of authority in corporations and in our government. Times have changed and with that change, now, comes responsibility.
If both of these groups want to “lead”, then they have to take the responsibility that comes with the job. You can’t continue to bitch about how hard life is for your group while at the same time enjoying all of the new (great) benefits of that change.
Many on here (I’m sure) have supported some of the change over the years (some things needed to be changed) but it’s now time for folks to step it up.
People wanted the change, they got the change…now let’s see a little responsibility and accountability.
And that is pretty much what it is like to be black. IQ level of 85, more likely to bring crime into your area, always calling a white man something or other, cracker, honky, white devil, etc. Just because of slavery.
The biggest part of this which you addressed is the covert attempts to stifle your voice and right to exist as you. I’m sure I must have called a white person a slur at some point, unlikely as it is because I prefer more personal attacks than that. Yet, I’d be a fool to ignore merit. Same as most men here I’d hope.
The double standard is per the course. And best believe as egalitarian as things may appear, there is still some people, maybe a lot of people, who will gladly revert back to racists opinions to voice their inherent desire for protection. Whether that means some may not employ you, allow you to move in their area, or stare at you odd for sleeping with ‘their’ women. The world is big so this won’t be the limits of my experience, but don’t believe that these fears are removed.
I think the real problem is that a white man is no longer allowed to have an opinion or comment, period. The pendulum (as usual) has gone from far right to far left on this issue and it’s no longer “acceptable” for a white man in this country to have an opinion, a comment, etc…without the PC police coming along to give us a ticket or to correct us.
Times have changed but like feminists you can’t continue the constant complaining as though things are like they were so many decades ago. You can’t have the best of both worlds.
Things have improved for women in the country and the black community. But, if you asked many of the people from these two groups, we’re still stuck 40 years ago?
No. Again, you can’t have it both ways. Many things have improved for both groups and it’s time they started policing their own groups.
Policing our group is something I’ve asked but not in the way you think, or maybe it is. Anti-intellectualism is a huge detriment to my group. I’m am neither a fan of those who disavow black culture simply to fit in with other groups. Being black shouldn’t mean being anti-other groups but liking other groups shouldn’t mean anti-black. It always pains me to see a black person, side with another group while dually insulting his own group.
I do appreciate seeing how some men think. Especially the more racist ones. Is it a confusion of lack of merit, or substantiated evidence based on maybe the hundred they’ve met from the billions that have existed throughout creation.
At it’s core blacks can be highly racist. What I’m thinking may unsurface, and is happening alarmingly enough to whites, is there is high degree of self-hatred. If you hate yourself, it’s difficult to express love for anyone.
I think, as a whole, men should bound together. Men who put in the hard work and who have the ability to get things done. I’m all for it and it would be a great starting point for us as men (fuck the rest….the need right now is men grouping together). It’s up to men to call out the others who aren’t contributing to society.
I couldn’t agree more. I’m down to shop ideas with you one of these days, as I do believe we are similar in mindset. Or similar enough to make something happen.
“The question should be whom is influenced best by propaganda as opposed to who is most racist.”
The real question should be how do we set aside all the bullshit propaganda and have an honest discussion about race?
Look, I get the point that you experience racism and see it out there. We’d be idiots to deny that it exists. But it goes in both directions.
I sometimes wonder what blacks think my “privileged” white life is like. It ain’t all roses and smoking cigars made of hundred dollar bills. In reality, I work my fucking ass off to see about 40% of my earnings fly out the door to support social welfare programs that benefit the very people who hate me instead of paying for food for my own family. In such a system, should we be surprised that whites might feel bitter toward blacks?
I have never owned a slave. I never lived during the Jim Crow era. Similarly, most blacks have never experienced slavery, nor have they been subjected to Jim Crow segregation. At what point should we put all this aside and discuss how to fix the undeniable problems in the black community? I have nothing against blacks – I judge based on character and merit. I’m willing to take my fair share of the responsibility to fix this mess if blacks are willing to do the same.
But that means no one gets a pass to be racist just because they perceive themselves to be less racist than they imagine everyone else is.
We’re on exactly the same page. Coming to terms with double standards and eliminating them on ALL fronts is a good first step. Articles like this help bring that to the forefront.
The thing is, and what I believe was the point missed, is this, Black people aren’t racist. If you didn’t know this let me explain. The blacks who come the closest to this are Black Americans. Just like many white Americans, both groups have an ugly under-belly attached to slavve culture long ended. While it was ended, the overt attempts to stifle black communities in the 60’s and 70’s didn’t go unnoticed. Steeped in fear at an enemy they didn’t understand, black Americans hate white Americans. They have many good reasons to as well.
African love is hilarious to me as they are the underbelly of any society. They are the black merchants. Many of the more profitable ones would sell their body, or their relatives, or sell out each other for a buck. This culture didn’t pass on crisply to Africans raised in America, but whenever I hear an African side with a White person, I am not surprised. They sell out their disdain for white people in private all the same and will quickly change sides when a white person comes around again. In ancient times, such men would be slaughtered by kinsmen for being traitors. No they get high fives from the men who equally insult them.
Being Caribbean, while you could link my past with slavery, good luck trying. I neither, have had the time linked with it, nor the lineage, nor has my country. This means, I have a stronger link to merit, intelligence, and other ventures of life than this race war. Don’t get me wrong, I believe there shouldn’t be a stifling of a voice. But just as I judge you on merit as you do me, I’d love for the world to judge me as such as well. Unfortunately, this world is filled with beggars, pussies, panderers, pimps, slave owners, feminists, terrorists, and the like. And there is only one thing everyone understands, from the African pan handler, the white police officer, and even the dog with it’s tail between it’s legs. Power. Best believe there will never be an honest discussion about race because to do so would reveal all the cards.
Unfortunately, there is no simple solution. Sure racism towards blacks still exists, but the overt variety of days past is largely long gone. In its place, we now have a more insidious version that keeps blacks dependent on handouts, impoverished, emasculated and steeped in a toxic victimhood culture. Most troubling, blacks vote in overwhelming numbers to perpetuate this system, and flock in droves to race-clowns like Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan. Until blacks are willing to reject a perpetual existence in servitude on the white man’s welfare plantation, and take some responsibility for their own outcomes, none of this will change. That won’t happen soon – the author notes how feminine much of modern black mentality is. Should we be surprised that blacks are feminine in their thought processes when, for generations, they have been disproportionately raised by legions of single mothers? Good article.
And Obama. Look, the problem is not blacks. It’s whites, and in specific, white women. And women in general, but there are more white ones than otherwise.They will always vote for whoever promises the most handouts.
Edit – this does not seem to be the same post i originally responded to.
Here’s a simple solution – root the race-dividing zionists from power and disclose the extraterrestrial presence.
Suddenly, we’re not so different anymore…
Fucking outstanding article. Balanced, fair and not a “white nationalist” type screed (which I guess would be strange if written by a black man), but rather a sober assessment of racism in this nation from a race *other* than “white man”.
Agreed. Excellent work here Donovan.
Indeed. There needs to be more of an honest debate when talking about this subject. Many people are still living in the past (and many didn’t even live through the hard times of the civil rights movement). I no longer give any a free pass because as far as I’m concerned we’re all supposed to be “equal” – men, women, all colors, etc….you better bring ability to the table when you’re dealing with me.
It’s the first thing that I will call you on if you don’t live up to the standard (i.e. a job, work or task). I don’t give a flying fuck if you’re a man, woman, race, religion, etc…you’d better be able to do the job (especially if you got the job because you knew someone or some other entitlement).
I believe that is what is needed today by all people. Society, as a whole, keeps people in “check”. That shit only goes on when people are too afraid to call other people out.
It’s truly not rocket science but some people want to twist the facts, deflect or redirect the conversations. Always stay on point (with your point) and you’ll never go wrong.
Progress people, progress
Good article Donovan. It’s awesome how most of the black writers and commentators on this site have their head together when it comes to the reality of race relations in the United States.
Straight up, and this is no personal diss to our fellow black male red pillers here, I will say that black/African-Americans are proportionately far more racist than your modern day White person, especially those born anywhere from generation X to the present.
The cold reality of life in big U.S. cities (I’ll take Atlanta for example because we’re both familiar with it) is that White people by-and-large do absolutely NOTHING to negatively impede on the lives of black Americans, while on the opposite spectrum, African-Americans bring a lot pain and suffering to White America.
In Atlanta and countless other cities, it is almost exclusively blacks who break into White peoples homes and steal their cars, while nearly 50% of Whites are murdered by blacks even though they are only 13-14% of the population. Less than 5% of black murders are at the hands of a white person, whether civilian or police. Yet the SJW and libtard media likes to pretend that “black lives don’t matter” to white people or some shit like that.
Interactions with a lot of blacks as a white person can be very cold indeed. You can observe that the “angry black female” attitude is often put into hyperdrive when they are dealing with white people, and it’s amazing how short a fuse many blacks have before they resort to calling a white person “cracker” or “honky” or whatever when their is an argument or less-than-amicable conversation going on.
On the other hand, you REALLY need to work up a white person before they would ever resort to using a racial slur against a black. Even then, it might very well never happen because of the potential (maybe fatal) backlash that would ensue.
As a white person, your just supposed to sit there and take the abuse.
All of this is not black people’s fault by mere existence. It’s entirely brought up in the culture of victimhood, anti-intellectualism, “the oppressor” (white man), single mother households etc. which permeates in the African-American upbringing.
Compare it to immigrants straight from Africa who are by and large WONDERFUL people, both in how they present themselves in their demeanor, their work ethic, and their wide range of interests and experiences.
Compare it to immigrants straight from Africa who are by and large
WONDERFUL people, both in how they present themselves in their demeanor,
their work ethic, and their wide range of interests and experiences.
Absolutely. While they are predominantly the upper crusts of the society they came from, they still prove that if you apply yourself as a man and do right and have honor, you can be a fantastic human being.
Ghetto culture in the U.S. really needs to be thrown into the dustbin of history as the toxic goo that it really is.
I totally understand why the article is as it is. I agree with it to a large part but what we must realise is that historical inequality still has an effect today. (I am not black american). I will explain myself. It’s kind of like having a head start in life. Black people didn’t own property and therefore their children could not inherit any wealth. Previous generations were not allowed to study. Although today’s generation can study they lack the funds cause their parents or grandparents left then nothing on which to start a life.
I am not saying this should be an excuse but whites did get a head start. By the time blacks could go to university and partake in society clever white people had made their fortunes and those who were not smart enough had at least a decent education and an inheritance from gramps or dad.
I am not saying white people are to blame. It’s just how the dice fell and ignoring these facts totally ignores the situation we find ourselves in. No one deserves anything for nothing however to completely ignore the impact history has had is a fools comfort.
OK, but so what? Plenty of whites had a head start over me. Doesn’t mean they owe me anything. Doesn’t mean I’m not responsible for myself. Doesn’t mean that I don’t have to work hard to pull myself up. If anything – the fact that you’re starting at a disadvantage should motivate you to work harder to overcome the disadvantage – not to give up and wallow in victimhood.
Partial credit. But blacks have scholarships, affirmative action, and a laundry list of other privileges which are catapulted their way, as a desperate attempt to bring black society up to the fold but it still doesn’t work.
This “new head start” has been in effect for decades, but it hasn’t changed much for the better. Truth is, there are deep cultural problems in African-American society as to why their financial planning and money maintenance skills are so poor.
Many blacks make incredibly frivolous and stupid purchases ($200 sneakers anyone?) and don’t set aside anything for investments or setting up a foundation to build wealth.
40 acres and a mule solved this problem before it became a problem. They were given land, and threw it away. There’s no excuse.
Further, my family came over here on a boat from England and Scotland in a day and age when the words “jet engine” were known to the world. We were wrecked by the war and started with nothing, and were solidly blue collar working class until my generation popped out. I sit here today only a few generations afterward and am by all accounts rich.
Generations of blacks are not only “allowed” to study, they are given every opportunity possible to do so, but if they try they are mocked, shamed and derided in their own inner city communities for “acting white”, the shaming even escalating into violence if necessary to get the kid “back in line”. Libraries are free. School is free. Hell we even feed kids for free in schools now if they cannot afford it. There is NO excuse. None.
Blacks who give their detractors the finger and study anyway always seem to find a way to climb out of poverty. Funny how that works.
The problem is one of a toxic culture. That’s why I could exceed my grandparent’s mean start. They encouraged me. They had a patriarch who stuck around and didn’t flee to be ten other kids “baby daddy”, and all of the other men were patriarchs in their own families (uncles). They not only encouraged, but demanded hard work and good grades. Well fuckin’ A what do you know, it worked.
No excuses accepted any longer. It’s time for the American black community to shit or get off the pot, as the days of claiming perpetual victimhood are drawing to a close.
Thomas Edison started as a very poor school dropout from Hell’s Kitchen.
This “disadvantage” bullshit in a day and age of free everything is simply that, bullshit.
Get the fuck out of here you pleb
You are looking to apportion blame. I clearly stated in my comment that blaming white is not right. I also say no one deserves anything for nothing. But dealing with problems by being dismissive of people plight is a sure way of ending on the wrong path. I will repeat, it’s just the way the dice fell and it needs to be acknowledged.
You response says more about you than me.
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/white_slavery.htm. You might find this interesting.
There were hundreds of thousands of Scots sold into slavery during Colonial America. White slavery to the American Colonies occurred as early as 1630 in Scotland.
Damn it, why did I go and make something of myself, when in fact I could just sit back and blame my plight on being a descendent of slaves?!?
Looks like I need to stop acting…um…well we’ll figure that part out in a bit. Now if you’ll excuse me I need to go cultivate a taste for purple drank.
http://www.amazon.com/How-Scots-Invented-Modern-World/dp/0609809997. If you haven’t already read this.
“I will repeat, it’s just the way the dice fell and it needs to be acknowledged.”
Again, OK, but so what?
I’m really not trying to be flippant here. No one denies the history of our country, but what does “acknowledging” history do? At the end of the day, if you’re a black person, you’re either going to get on with improving your station or you’re not. I don’t see what acknowledging history has to do with that.
I also don’t see what the history of slavery has to do with the current problems in the black community – rampant crime, drug use, single motherhood, and a rejection of education. None of those things happened under slavery. Moreover, none of those things existed within the black community for decades after slavery ended. It wasn’t until the 60s, when liberal academia superimposed the idea of white guilt onto slavery to “acknowledge” it that the modern epidemics facing blacks exploded. Prior to this, blacks actually had much stronger families, and economically, there was a solid black middle class and blacks suffered less unemployment than whites. All this in an era still marked by Jim Crow, which has now been gone for half a century. But, instead of simply removing the final barrier and letting blacks continue on the standard American trajectory, we decided instead to ask them to remain focused on the barriers that had been removed and to expect special treatment because of them. This was a disaster.
If anything, I think there’s a strong argument that the constant focus on the past is exactly what keeps us there.
So what purpose is served by “acknowledging?” I acknowledge, but what now?
I own that book, heh, was a Christmas present from my wife two years ago.
There has always been greater historical financial inequality just between whites than between blacks and whites. Most Americans (most of whom are white), have no savings, yet this country is the wealthiest on earth, with most of the wealthiest people on earth at least doing business here.
There’s almost no reason to talk about historical financial inequality, because there has always been a greater disparity just in caucasian-land than between whites and blacks.
By acknowledging that things are the way they because certain things happened provides a platform to come up with appropriate solutions that address the concerns of not just black people but white people as well, because what they do will affect white people as well e.g crime. The current solutions are inapptopriate and designed to give handouts which I am against.
YOU MUST WATCH THIS MY FRIEND:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F91Uj5rmSeI
but there is no more plight tho. you are currently living in the most free corner of the earth
You clearly have never been to Scotland and you show your ignorance when it comes to Scottish issues and why they even had a vote in a bid to divorce from uk
Nice one and if you’re ever in Scotland give me a shout and we’ll go hunt haggis.
Oh?
So basically you couldn’t actually provide a rebuttal to my answer to you, which was given without malice, and had to resort to ad hominem. Interesting. In essence you have just ceded the argument. And at what point were we discussing Scottish issues as they regard the recent vote to separate precisely?
I’ve done plenty of pub crawls down Prince street, thank you very much, though for sheer back woods fun, the Isle of Sky is quite nice, picturesque, and the residents much more friendly. Glasgow you can’t pay me to visit again, except perhaps to drive through on the way to somewhere else, reminds me of a slightly less downtrodden Detroit, really. Inverness has some of the greasiest fish & chips I’ve ever had outside of Islington, however their outdoor gaol from way back is quite interesting.
You clearly are not even interested in a reasoned discussion. Please refrain from further commenting to me unless you have something relevant to our original topic to discuss, and further, if it is laden with ad hominem, well then, don’t bother in that case either.
Slainte mhor agus!
Sounds like a plan.
We’ve been talking of taking a vacation back to Europe in 2 years as a graduation present to my daughter. Figured on hitting the Baden Baden area of Germany and over the border into France a bit, then on to Scotland and perhaps Ireland. Two years is a bit of a stretch time wise, but if you’re still here I’ll give you a shout.
Well, I think we are in agreement on some things. And I’ll agree with your point that acknowledging the source of problems can help to shape solutions. But here’s the way I see it – this was already done 50 years ago when we put the current programs into place specifically to make up for the history of slavery and Jim Crow. That past was already acknowledged, and was in fact the basis for all of these failing programs that have served only to entrench and perpetuate black misery. So, if we are to acknowledge anything at this point, I think it’s more appropriate to acknowledge the catastrophic problems that these programs have provided – which leads quickly to the conclusion that the solution isn’t more free handouts from the white man.
I honestly don’t have the energy to get into a long discussion on the internet. I have more pressing issues to attend to.
In a nutshell all I am saying is I believe racism is a poor mans problem. To address it we need to look at how the inequality came about. By addressing this inequality, not by giving handouts but by other means such as a free first degree to everyone who has the qualifications white or black then we more closer to a addressing past inequality. There are more things that can be fine for everyone that will ensure a whole lot more participation from everyone.
No, we really don’t at this point All barriers have been removed, and the only reason blacks now fare badly in America is the toxic culture they live in (not all of them of course, the successful ones eschew that grotesque culture). We all know the “why” and “how”, and the institutional problems were solved and then some long ago, leaving nothing left now but looking the inner city black man squarely in the eye and telling him to get off his ass, pull up his pants, and get a fucking job. No work in the hood? Then move. Even if you have to walk out of town with a knapsack on your back, like lots of whites did during the Depression.
No excuses and no “addressing past inequality”. I’m not a part of that past, I owe fuck all to anybody.
That past was already acknowledged,
Yes, exactly. Constantly rehashing a fixed problem is a waste of time and resources. At this point we’ve given at least a trillion dollars through social welfare, and if that isn’t enough “reparations”, then to hell with them.
I agree, for me these programs have perpetuated the problem. What poor black people or anyone for that matter needs to learn is that hard work is the answer and there is no quick solution, even the people who got rich oening slaves still had to work hard. A lack of education on how the world of investment works is the reason why many black stars end up bankrupt. Most of them never completed a reasonable level of education hence their poor grasp of dealing with money. They don’t know what a budget is because their fore fathers didnt have a clue and couldn’t teach them or their parents. These sound like trivial issues but they can go a long way to solving some of the issues around big rims and sneakers.
Parts of Appalachia, even now, make inner city life look glamorous and rich.
You are right in one way. Saying sorry and saying what we did was wrong isn’t the answer. By acknowledgement I mean looking at what it did to that particular group of people in terms of their thinking and attitude. We need to go into the detail of how slavery affected and stillbaffects the way black people socialise. Their attitudes to life and aspirations and how they relate in society. Some will argue that it shouldn’t because this current generation was not enslaved. However psychology will tell you behaviours are transmitted from ancestors to future generations in an almost DNA like fashion. You could give them millions each today, by the end of the year they will be broke and we need to look at why and address that rather than giving them free millions.
Not applicable. After slavery ended the black family normally had a stable household with a father present. If the markers from slavery persisted then black culture in the U.S. would have been broken from day one. No, instead they had intact families up until LBJ showed up and *intentionally* went on a campaign to create a class of permanent Democrat voters. Combined with the budding Marxist movements (started in the 20’s but really started to blossom in the 60’s) an entire new class of “newly self aware” victims were created. Throw in a large dose of feminism which created the “we doan need noes man!” chant and here we are, nearly fifty years later.
So now we know and understand.
The solution is, was, and will always be getting rid of entitlements, dropping feminism and getting young men proud of making a better life for themselves, instead of being shamed.
There are hordes of people who grew up poor but went on to college to be successful, I being one of them
So to me your point is meaningless and makes a base assumption that one must do poorly because their parents had it rough. I find that to be completely inaccurate.
black people never got 40 acres and a mule, white slave masters did get reparations for slavery, not black slaves. Black americans walked out of slavery without a dollar in their pocket, a government hand or any help and built up hundreds of great american cities like los angelas, new york, philadelphia and chicago and detroit.
Not quite. There was land given, and the government did take some of it back, but some of it remained in black hands. Also at the time there was homesteading, for everybody, which meant that you could hike out to, say, Nebraska and claim a parcel of land, free, as long as you lived on it and used it. The size of the parcel necessarily varied by location. You could even homestead a bit still in the 1990’s.
No excuse.
I’ve studied this history quiet extensively, if you have some proof of this, I’d like to see it. No land was given to blacks to settle. Homesteading was white only, it is why those states are so white.
A simple Google/Bing of the term shows that land was given out (and some taken back, and some kept). Additionally homesteading in Florida was specifically set aside for blacks after the war.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/07/white_privilege_extends_to_the_poor.html
Yeah blacks did a really great job with Detroit. What did it used to look like, and what does it look like now?
I understand what you’ve been saying but your point is going to fall on deaf ears. People have been using the race card and continue to do so to such an extent that it has basically pissed everyone off.
At this point it’s either you change your mindset despite the environment you grew up in (which is damn hard for the unlucky children) or suffer the consequences, including ridicule for not adapting like others have.
Lol, “I, being an example of someone who grew up poor but became successful means that others can do it too”, says a person who doesn’t understand statistics or logical reasoning.
No, it doesn’t are you just reading the words you are typing in? It does not come up. I will conclude you are trolling unless you can provide some source or search words you are searching. This is what comes up for me.
“Forty acres and a mule refers to a concept in the United States for agrarian reform for former enslaved African American farmers, following disruptions to the institution ofslavery provoked by the American Civil War. Many freedmen believed they had a moral right to own the land they had long worked as slaves, and were eager to control their own property. Freedpeople widely expected to legally claim 40 acres (16 ha) of land (a quarter-quarter section) and a mule after the end of the war, long after proclamations such asSherman’s Special Field Orders, No. 15 and the Freedmen’s Bureau Act were explicitly reversed.”
” But, Federal and state policy during the Reconstruction eraemphasized wage labor, not land ownership, for African Americans. Almost all land allocated during the war was restored to its antebellum owners.”
“Most blacks acquired land through private transactions, with ownership peaking at 15,000,000 acres (6,100,000 ha) in 1910, before an extended financial recession caused problems that resulted in the loss of their property for many.”
Blacks unlike whites had to buy every acre they had, from nothing.
Before black built detroit it was just a forest, not even a road. It pretty much looked like everything between chicago and oregon
Oh spare me, SJW.
You really are too much dude. Go find a leftist site that will welcome you with open arms.
I love when people tell me what I am “just doing”.
The record is clear, a basic search shows that some land was given, some land was taken back, and that homesteading was set aside in Florida. I’m not interested in SJW revisionism, hernan. And ad hominem basically cedes the argument to me.
Good day.
actually little token terms like SJW takes away from the conversation your little ideas don’t cover the overall historical truths. And your little simplistic responses like “no excuses” when presented well rounded historical facts makes you look silly and childish no matter your age.
Actually kid, here’s the deal.
Your snark aside, you have seen my other posts on this site and whether you agree with them or not, you know I’m intellectual and intelligent.
I feed you token terms, back handed barbs and give you no credibility out of the gate as a form of insult. You and I both know that I am capable of constructing a long, rhetorically and factually sound rebuttal to your posts. I choose not to.
You are simply not worth my time and effort, however you are worth about enough to warn others about since you pose as “one of us” on occasion.
Have a great day.
Slainte
I respond to people the way they refer to me…if you don’t like the barb you should learn not to dish it. Yes I have seen your other posts and they fall flat when presented with certain factual truths that you cannot digest because they don’t fit your opinions and perspectives. Simple responses like “no excuse” really takes away from the intelligence you say you have. I don’t “pose” for anyone obviously I have stated exactly where I stand on a variety of issues not everyone here is a white male Republican-Voting Conservative who equates Feminism to Black Social realities and history as one and the same. Also the world is mult-layered obviously on a variety of issues my opinions will blend with others who may disagree with me on other issues..this is a reflection of our multi-faceted world…to you this might be “posing.” Obviously First Wave and Second Wave Feminism I agree with to a certain extent while disagreeing with many hypocritical aspects of Third Wave Feminism. I agree with social equity or a ideally a merit based society here and around the world…and I stress Ideally.
You say its “revisionist” when presented with history you disagree with…even when it is a fair assessment and closer to a more well rounded truth, while at the same time turning a blind eye to real revisionism and pseudo- science because it fits your perspective…this is called hypocrisy..and you should be wary of that. Ironically some here will speak of history as if it is not “mainstream” when they are actually re-packaging the same ignorant real revisionist false history and perspective that our real truths were here to combat in the first place…you know what you call revisionism.
No Sir maybe it is you who are not worth the time and effort, and obviously I am wasting mine..but at the least it is a record for others. The people you say I am a “warning too” maybe are the people who should open their eyes. I respect my elders but I don’t respect ignorant statements and views. Good Day!
In otherwords you cannot prove your phony claim.
I, two of my brothers and several of my poor friends. We grew up poor and those of us who went to school and sacrificed…succeeded.
Strange concept but it works. Imagine that.
So, do you have anything other than insults? Facts to prove me wrong would be nice.
Ghetto culture was created by the media and endorsed by liberals.
“we’ll manage you poor black people.”
Actually it’s created by people who think that murdering someone else for wearing a hat with a different color is an OK thing to do.
Even the ones who are not upper crust are far different than AA. I employed a guy from Jamaica, just a good hard laborer, very honest, but blue collar earning $10-$15 an hour. Honestly, I don’t understand how the US has such a strong economy when you examine the ghettho culture and its support infrastructure, that other countries don’t have to deal with.
That being said, there is definitely institutional racism in the US justice system.
Institutional sexism as well.
The economy is propped up by (increasing amounts of) debt. It will eventually crash and burn and the illusion of a strong economy will end.
Agree…times have changed and more people need to step it up. That old argument of someone keeping someone else “down” is bullshit….call people on it whenever you get the chance. I’m a working man…I’ve always been a working man. I’ve worked two jobs (at times) and I will gladly call out anyone who can’t keep (or get) a job.
If you want to work, then work is available. I will be god damn if I have to work while someone else sits on their ass (I’ll whistle blow no matter the color, age, or sex). That time is over and more people need to get it together. No more free handouts and no more complaining.
You work, you eat…otherwise, you starve.
“Compare it to immigrants straight from Africa who are by and large WONDERFUL people, both in how they present themselves in their demeanor, their work ethic, and their wide range of interests and experiences.”
Agreed. Their family unit is very strong and their work ethic is second to none, as @ghostofjefferson:disqus also pointed out.
Ironically, many of them are Sunni Muslim too, thus debunking the knee-jerk reaction that Muslims come here to “plot” chaos (maybe the random odd duck or two every decade does, nothing to get all paranoid about as a whole). Farrakhaniacs are a disgrace to the religion. What The Hell is “A-Salaam Alaikum”? Arabs/other Muslims NEVER say nor write the “A” at the beginning! And theres also some weird L. Ron Hubbard sci-fi angle they threw into the religion as well that I can’t quite wrap my head around.
Suggested viewing
Thank God for MLK?
What ever theyre teaching us about race relations prior to the 60’s MUST be questioned. I do know that there is NOTHING wrong with segregation. Its natural. Most likely its because of the inability of blacks to do anything for themselves, world over, that the civil rights movement happened (calling themselves victims); so they could leech off us more.
Think of the white people you currently know….now put them in the 20’s, 30’s or 40’s. Do you see them being evil to blacks? I dont. Matter of fact….most of the whites I know are pussies and too busy working, raising families, paying bills to be concerned (which is a pity).
And the incidents that did happen? Well we know how the media loves to use any white on black crimes to warp the minds of the people but ignores all the black on white crimes which I’m positive were around back then too.
Thank God for MLK? Really dude? Again……question anything they are telling you about race relations prior to the 60’s. They have rewritten history in my lifetime right before my very eyes and the sheep took it and ran and will consider me a bigot for pointing this out.
The snippet from the black celebrity article is interesting in its own right. They don’t want the men, just the ability to divorce them for their money. It’s like their being denied their divorce welfare.
Outside of the race baiters/poverty pimps and their followers and swipl allies, when working with black men, race drops out of the convo pretty quickly and ability becomes what is important.
I find that men respond well to being respected as *MEN* regardless of their color (assuming that they are otherwise worthy or respect.)
Mistral
Ability trumps all. And generally your highly able man is less likely to give a shit about sneering about race when there’s more pressing matters at hand. He may hold certain opinions off the job, but knows and respects that men of ability like himself are a rare breed, and treats them accordingly.
Agreed. Even when dealing with enemies. Men respect “men.”
Absolutely fucking dynamite article, Donovan. You knocked this out of the park.
And on the subject of black Americans converting to Islam, this piece illuminates just how misguided a move that could possibly be:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/BlackandProud.htm
There’s no white devil, black devil, brown devil…the only devil out there is the one we allow into our hearts.
^ This.
Excellent!^
There is a devil out there, and he owns the banks, governments, schools, cops, and the press.
Ignorant statement.
You just agreed with him, then called his statement ignorant.
He indicated one devil. You stated “there is a devil”. Devil being singular.
Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-white.
Until we restore the right of freedom, separation and recognize whites have racial interests these problems will persist.
Enough.
yep–
They’re still butthurt because they think white people owe them something.
Life is not just nurture. It also includes GENETICS. At least a bigoted father gives some consideration to the fact that his grandchildren could be ugly, unnatural looking mulattoes.
We all know that Tiger Woods would have nothing to do with a girl who looked like the daughter he and his beautiful Swedish bride will produce. We all know that OJ would have nothing to do with a girl who looked like the daughter he and his blond wife produced.
The issue is the end of the white race. If we followed the neoconservative program and cut immigration and dedicated ourselves to assimilating with the nonwhites we have here now, there would be no white race in America.
In the real world Black Nationalism is not an ideology, it is a reality. Blacks have nations and they are not ABOUT to hand them out to others the way you want to do with white countries. Oriental nationalism is also a fact. Neither China nor Japan has even a THOUGHT of letting the rest of the world have their countries.
Opposing “White Nationalism” simply means handing out white lands
to whoever wants them. It’s fun for you while it lasts, but it only lasts as long as you have something to give away.
More blacks have come to America since 1965 than in the entire slave trade previously. But you no longer have anything for the Faithful Colored Companions to love you about.
I think it would help to rebrand “White Nationalism” as “White Protectionism”.
I think that simple change in semantics would wake a lot of people up.
Life just isn’t fair is it?
I know you burst a blood vessel every time you see a “colored” guy banging a white chick you would never get the time of day from.
Really you enslave people kill some of them off hang them lynch them
give crack cocaine to the kids and their racist
IQ 70
C’mon man. Blacks were purchased as slaves from African tribes. Lynching was a form of crime control. Both blacks and whites were lynched. The only people who give crack to black kids are black drug dealers.
So, yes you are a racist.
Racial profiling gangsta thugs alive today, surrounded by gangsta thugs today, doing gangsta thug things today – bad.
Racial profiling across centuries for things I had nothing to do with and have never done – good.
Interesting world.
Most races have been slaves at one point in history or another. Hell right now white people are the slave of choice for sex trafficing in the middle east (not talking about the “dump in my mouth” sluts).
You are owed nothing. Not a fucking thing. Take some responsibility for your station in life. If you don’t like where you are, get a fucking clue, get off your arse and go out and bust your ass to make something of yourself.
This is the duty of any man. Stop being a fucking bitch victim.
There’s that attitude (fag talk) we talked about
my girlfriend was tarded. she drives an airplane now.
IQ 69
I highly disagree. As far as black people being More racist than white people I have two things to say. 1: “If” we are can you fucking blame us. The problems you talk about in the first part of yyour article are so miniscule that they dont even matter and also you only give a couple life examples which definitely keep speak for the entire black population. Until you can actually prove what your saying about blacks is true you are just going off your own opinion which is something everybody has. 2. White people are definitely more racist than black people. You said that “Black Peoples Racism is hurting people” But BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING ACROSS THE NATION BEING KILLED BY WHITE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANY JUSTICE! You are literally defending Zimmerman for ATTACKING A FUCKING TEENAGER WHO WAS WALKING HOME WITH A PACK OF SKITTLES AND KILLED HIM. How can it be self defense if YOU attack somebody in the first place. THEN AFTER KILLING HIM HE LEFT HIM THERE IN THE STREE FOR HOURS LIKE A FUCKING ANIMAL NO AMBULANCE OR ANYTHING. Mike Brown was killed by white cops SHOT SIX TIMES TWICE IN THE HEAD. The kill shot was a fucking head shot and if the officers where aiming at body like they “Claim” then thy KEPT SHOOTING AS HE WAS FALLING. AND THEY ARE FUCKING FREE RIGHT NOW. You probably dont even know about Martese Johnson and AND ONE OF MY OWN FUCKING FRIENDS WHO ARE GETTING KILLED BY THESE FUCKING WHITE PPL AND SKATING AWAY SKOT FREE! SO FUCK YOU AND YOUR CRYING ABOUT HOW BLACK PEOPLE DONT LIKE WHITE PPL. YOU FUCKING RIGHT WE HATE WHITE PEOPLE. There the same ppl who enslaved us for over 400 years. There the same people who beat us in the fucking street when we march for our rights. There the same people who threw us in a ghetto and distrubuted mountains of drugs to us. YOU KNOW THERE ARE MORE THAN 3 TIMES AS MANY BLACK PPL INCARCERATED FOR DRUG CHARGES THAN WHITE PPL BUT WHITE PPL ARE STASTICALLY PROVEN TO DO MORE FUCKING DRUGS THAN US. NOT ONLY MORE BUT HARDER DANGEROUS. AND IF YOUR PUT IN A JAIL SYSTEM YOUR BASICALLY A FUCKING SLAVE LIKE THEYVE ALWAYS WANTED US TO BE! NOT TO MENTION ALL THE HARDSHIP YOU GET WHEN YOU COME OUT AS. DID YOU KNOW DRUG USE WAS AT AN ALL TIME LOW AND GOING DOWN WHEN RONALD REAGAN STARTED THE WAR ON DRUGS AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER IT INCREASED AND ALL THEY SHOWED WAS BLACK PEOPLE AND NOTHING ABOUT WHITES. AND EVEN BACK THEN IT WAS PROVEN WHITE PEOPLE DID MORE DRUGS. Im fucking done your a fucking disgrace to the black community should be ashamed of yourself. your just another black man thats ashamed of yiur own skin because of what you see on TV and around. You dont tryto help the community you just shit on it. you dont understand that black ppl are where we are becuase white ppl put us there. Fuck You Cracker.
IQ 70 and Racist
“YOU FUCKING RIGHT WE HATE WHITE PEOPLE.”
Pretty much makes the author’s point.
For the record, three times more whites than blacks are killed by cops each year. Those cops get off just as scott-free as any of them.
How about – “all” lives matter?
If you read anything i said you would understand the point i was trying to make is that the only reason we hate white ppl is because white ppl fucking hate us. we have a reason they dont.
Yes, we hate you so much that we’ve given you trillions of dollars in free money, set up educational scholarships that we don’t allow ourselves, and have tried for five decades to give you every opportunity, even unfair ones, in employment.
Because we hate you.
“we have a reason they dont.”
Translation – “I’m content to stew in racism forever and never change this.”
For the record, I don’t hate blacks, and in fact, there are many that I quite admire. My first mentor in my profession (legal) for example, is a black guy, and one of the smartest dudes I ever met.
Your attitude creates a circular logic problem – whites hate you, so it’s OK for you to hate them. The problem is, first, not all whites hate you. Period. In fact, the vast majority don’t hate you, and you wouldn’t have anywhere near the freedom and autonomy you have if any significant portion of them actually did. Second, even among those whites that do hate you, they see it in the exact inverse – you hate them, so it’s OK that they hate you. To top it off, they see it as, “we’ve been giving these people free shit and handicapping ourselves to advance them for half a century, and not only do they still hate us, they basically wage open warfare against us if you look at crime statistics.” So, they could just as easily say that they have a “reason” to hate you.
So where do we stop this stupid cycle?
“Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend.” – Martin Luther King Jr.
“We must develop and maintain the capacity to forgive. He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love. There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies.” – Martin Luther King Jr.
And finally:
“Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. And so we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom. A man can’t ride you unless your back is bent.” – Martin Luther King Jr.
Give it a rest, race pimp. Most blacks being killed across the nation are being killed by other blacks.
We may disagree on some tenements here, but race pimp is flippin’ hilarious!! I may have to use that later. Keep Ur Pimp Hand Strong!
It’s a fun term, heh.
Again because if the war on drugs which was just another plan from white people to keep blackpeople enslaved. White people created the stereotype that black ppl are criminals ever since the Martin Luther King riots. They capitalized on it and found a way to put us back in slavery which is why this country has the most number of black incarerated in the entire world. Like i said before they promote and only put out the sound of of black people that their stereotype was neant for which is why you only hear nonsense on the radio about killing, and drugs and all this other stuff. if you notice artist like J cole, Kendrick lamar, and BIG KRIT, abd lupe fiasco are never heard on mainstream. listen to there music and ask yourself why. All black ppl hear is about drugs which was given to us by white ppl. Because if black ppl were just coming out of the Jim Crow laws and didnt have that much education how the fuck did we aquire all those drugs in the first place. how the fuck did we even know how to get them ir that they existed. Instead of acting like females and getting emotional how about you all go look up what the fuck im talking about
Take some responsibility for yourselves.
You know part of the reason your community fails to advance?
When a black man does figure out how to get out of ghetto, when he works hard in school, learns to communicate well, goes to college, gets a job and moves to the burbs, he’s not looked to as an inspiration by the black community…he’s not looked at as someone they could learn from…he’s called a traitor, an Uncle Tom and scorned as a house nigger.
The very people who should be held up as examples of what to do to escape and advance, are ostracized as “not black enough”.
At some point, your community has to be held responsible for itself, it’s decisions, and it’s actions.
Yeah, we all got together and planned the war on drugs to keep you down. We purposefully suspended all notions of justice under the 5th and 4th Amendment against *ourselves*, because we have these back rooms where we all meet and plot against you.
OR
Politicians who are about nothing but power got together and oppress both of us.
A huge amount of white people oppose the war on drugs, including a large swath on the right. The libertarians are blatantly calling out on this topic.
See, that’s the problem with your race pimping. You bitch, rightly, about the power brokers doing bad things, but attribute in them a blanket assertion that their acts belong to all white people. Tell you what skippy, the college kids in dorms across America busted for drugs and having their lives ruined are largely white kids. You’re stating we’d jail our own children to keep you down. That makes zero sense. None.
As to crime numbers, you’re going to have a hard time dealing in the “perception” argument. FBI statistics are what they are. Start taking responsibility for *your* community and getting your young men stable father figures and not “baby daddies”, and clean up your own house. Those crime statistics will disappear in short order if you can just get out of the bitch-victim mentality and act like a man and take positive corrective action.
And last, whites ain’t “giving you drugs”. You’re buying and selling that to yourselves. Not saying there aren’t white drug dealers, but he sells in the burbs these days, not the hood.
Race pimp LMAO!
I understand your rage. He is black though. So If you wanted to use an insult you chose the wrong word.
He is not black to me so im sure i used the right term
Race is not dependent on ideas and ideology.
Your mindset is what will keep you a slave for the rest of your life. You eschew self criticism and self examination. I suspect that you’re probably the type that ridicules any aspiring young black man who takes the time and effort to apply himself in school as well, aren’t you?
You live a toxic philosophy. It’s no wonder you feel a victim all the time.
The old “not black enough” argument. Being “black to you” would get him far in life.
Where is the outrage for thousands of blacks killing thousands of blacks over shoes, hats, jackets, girls, drugs, and just plain stupidity?
Shelby Steele had this to say in an article on the Trayvon Martin shooting and it sums things up perfectly as far as I am concerned.
Before the 1960s the black American identity (though no one ever used the word) was based on our common humanity, on the idea that race was always an artificial and exploitive division between people. After the ’60s—in a society guilty for its long abuse of us—we took our historical victimization as the central theme of our group identity. We could not have made a worse mistake.
The full article is at: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303302504577323691134926300
It’s a very good article, and while it was written during the Trayvon Martin period, it applies equally well to the other incidents.
Boo Fucking Hoo.
I’ve worked with black Africans from Africa (South Africa, Equatorial Guinea & Namibia) who i’d gladly work with again just based on pure ability, intelligence, likability & refusal to submit to Victimhood mentality. Your rant is childish vapor, son.
For the record, i’m half white, half Asian.
I rest my case…
Ha! You’re a cracker now Donovan!
Check your privilege and feel some white guilt!
uncle tom lol!
Anyone think this might be a troll or a plant?
This is his first message on disqus and its just too perfect…
I was thinking the same thing. The rhetoric looks like it’s straight out of the playbook to me.
This is the attitude that will lead to war.
I’m not one to be goaded into war. The people who fund the race baiters and poverty pimpers want that to happen. So I don’t play their games.
But I am trained to defend myself if the need arises. And I will be very pissed at the people giving me need.
By the way, nobody’s lives matter to the people who run your mind. You poor sorry little victim.
100% with you brother, and I’m white. White racism has no justification what-so-ever. Black people can hate white people all they want, it doesn’t offend me because it’s rightfully justified hate. I would hate people that enslaved my race too, and the racism continues so there’s no reason for blacks to not be racist towards whites. Whites are racist because they can be (stems from low-IQ and ignorance of culture), black racists are racist because damn near all whites are racist toward them. So, who’s right? Well, nobody should be racist, period, but blacks have a f*ck of a lot more justification on their side than whites do.
White people are still to this day extremely racist and the white racists have enormous numbers. The majority of my own friends are openly racist toward black people. White racism is alive and well, however, despite the MSM’s recent desperate attempts to point out any and all black racism they can find, I’ve never had a black friend that was racist toward white people. That says a lot and I’ve had friends of every race and culture. Blacks, whites, mexicans, asians, indians, I’ve been friends with them all, and the ONLY racists I’ve ever met have been white.
The ego-inflated racist whites will attack the hell out of me, call me a white apologist, and then claim they aren’t racist all in the same comment…. in 3… 2… 1….
Aaaannddd I was 100% right. You racist trolls have fun arguing amongst each other because I don’t have time to waste on you.
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/white_slavery.htm
There were hundreds of thousands of Scots sold into slavery during
Colonial America. White slavery to the American Colonies occurred
as early as 1630 in Scotland.
Fuck you.
You get nothing more from me.
Slainte
I’m German and I don’t get pissed when Jews hate me. Says a lot about you, buddy.
Dude, nobody knows about this…I wonder why??
And the “Slavic” states were called this for a reason…
And also, just further proves how despicable whites are to enslave their own race.
Exactly.
And we don’t know about it because it’s inconvenient to the racist narrative, such as Mr. Roll wants to engage in.
Fuck white guilt and whites on white guilt trips, and fuck self loathing whites. Everybody was a slave at one point or another. Suck it up, buttercup, and get on with life. Being a slave to your past is still being a slave.
There were also plenty of free blacks that owned slaves, including blacks who had formerly been slaves themselves.
Yes, which is well known history.
Mr. Racist Guilt Tripper here is simply trolling. “I ain’t racist!” “Whites are despicable!
Yeah, sure kid.
I don’t get pissed when people hate me for things I didn’t do either. I just think those people are retarded. I pity them. They’ll always have less and be miserable, because the victim card is the loser in any hand.
Right on. When people hate me because somebody ran over their dog with a car fifty years ago, because I drive a car, I see them as rather touched.
LOL this is the f*cking twilight zone. A white racist just called me a racist because I complained about white racists. Wow. Just f*cking WOW.
“Wow. Just f*cking WOW.”
Chick alert!
“I’m German”
Why am I not surprised. The self-loathing ethnomasochism of European people is by far the most strongly exemplified by the Germans.
Gladly shouldering blame for crimes you had nothing to do with while taking abuse from individuals who weren’t even victims of said crimes is not noble. Far from it, your behavior is that of a self-righteous coward who believes he’s better than those “other whites” who don’t prostrate themselves before their moral superiors ranked higher on the victimhood scale. You should really learn some self-respect. And get over your pathetic, self-righteous posturing and status signalling.
I’m sure at this point you’ll claim victory and gloat about how “I told you I’d be attacked for telling it like it is!” But know this: You’re a brave, persecuted man of righteousness in your mind only. You’re not fooling the rest of us.
Was going to make the same call, but didn’t want to respond to “it”.
You mean like the blacks who enslaved their own race and sold them to European and Arab merchants? You mean like all the black-on-black slavery that is still to this day practiced in Africa?
Your historical ignorance is astounding yet not surprising given the propaganda taught in Western schools on this topic.
I don’t have to fool you, you’re already fooled, fool, and you’re right, you did prove my statement.
Her historical ignorance is willful because it makes her feel bad to acknowledge the truth.
I can’t even…
You’re what the commies call a useful idiot. You’re too stupid and too brainwashed to see how your willful acquiescence to the cultural Marxist driven PC narrative is being used to destroy you and the country you live in.
That you accuse us of falling for the divide and conquer strategy is quite ironic. The divide and conquer agenda goes hand in hand with the very multiculturalist, perpetual victim class system you in your supreme idiocy are here defending.
Dude grow a pair.
Wow. where did you grow up?
Iowa. It’s very diverse here.
I grew up in NYC. You dont know what you are talking about.
I’m sorry about your low IQ.
He’s trolling.
I’m not trolling. Just because I’m not racist and I’m not stupid enough to fall for the divide and conquer mantra you racist fools are so willing to fall for, and even ask for more of, makes me a troll?
If any of you can give me a logical reason why somebody’s skin color is a reason to hate them, I’m all ears.
Please point to an instance where we have said that it’s OK to hate people based on skin color. You’re arguing from a false premise.
And your argument is completely retarded because you say there is no logical reason to hate based on skin color while simultaneously advocating that this is perfectly acceptable.
Now piss off, troll. The grownups are talking.
I didn’t say it was acceptable. I said the blacks have more justification to be racist than whites do. Go take a god damn reading comprehension class and come back when you gain a basic understanding of the English language, troll.
“Black people can hate white people all they want, it doesn’t offend me because it’s rightfully justified hate.”
Learn to read what you write, retard.
“So, who’s right? Well, nobody should be racist, period, but blacks have a f*ck of a lot more justification on their side than whites do.”
Keep reading, retard.
Perhaps you speak a different language than me, but in English – the language we’re using – you are saying that racism by blacks is acceptable because it is justified. Your careful parsing of the language you use doesn’t detract from the overall theme.
me too- 126 or 127….I remember bc I missed being eligible for Mensa by a few points…but then I found out they are just dorks who love puns and word games.
The appeal of belonging to that group was lost on me. In theory they say it’s to associate with great minds on a higher level, give or take, but in reality it seems like walking into an autism festival. I’m a social guy, and there’s no reason one cannot both be intelligent, and enjoy fun, women, drink and socializing. The near social autism that most intellectuals let themselves fall into is shocking to me.
Besides, I prefer honesty and being forthright over playing snarky petty politics and word games. This is why I’d rather hang with blue collar men any day of the week and shoot the shit about guns, women and booze than to spend three hours dealing with spergs sitting around tell each other how superior they are.
Know a guy who got in. He barely mentions what goes on in Mensa though.
Impressive score. How old were you when you found out your score?
Is it impressive? It just means I know I am not a brilliant.
No worries. That score seems pliable though. Did you take the Mensa approved test?
IQ 70, racist, not white and a faggot
Also not male.
White German IQ 103. Try again, troll.
IQ 103? No wonder your arguments aren’t very good.
only a 70 IQ negro would think 103 is high IQ to boast about. A 103 IQ german faggot would have said 130 or something like that.
Looks like I was right.
I have the best argument so far and no logical retracting argument to counter what I said, just character bashing from white racists. I think it’s pretty clear who won.
Nah dude, I’m just not a liar. I know I don’t have the highest IQ but my IQ is still higher than the vast majority of the population, like the commentators here.
There is no “logic” in your argument. Take it from a lawyer who has a much higher IQ and actually uses logic every day. It is pretty clear who won. You bashed character – people bashed back. The broader point remains untouched – the original comment you replied to is idiotic.
I suspect I am correct. Regardless, you don’t deny it, you are a FAGGOT.
103 is high average. That isn’t a bad place to start from.
Get Outta Ma Hud!!!
Dus dat hep?
Out of curiosity, what is your IQ?
134.
Also – not trying to brag about this. A good argument is good no matter your IQ, and a bad argument is bad no matter your IQ. But if you’re going to pull the IQ card, don’t get caught making a bad argument.
I completely agree with your stance. It serves no purpose to ask another their opinion if you aren’t open to learning from it. Even worse if you are unable to see it having value. I’ve noticed on here many repost IQ ratios like it was a supplant for penis size. According to some posters, even your IQ level is low, while they conveniently never state their own. I’m waiting to see that 174 IQ guy who is posting to finally reveal himself.
You still place in the average or 68% of population scores’ column. Still a good score. Just know it is average. In the grand scheme if things it means nothing.
“Aaaannddd I was 100% right. You racist trolls have fun arguing amongst each other because I don’t have time to waste on you.”
Sorry, moron, but saying stupid, highly controversial shit on the internet and predicting you’ll get flack for it does not make you any kind of Nostradamus. It does, however, make you a Notsobrightus.
the inevitable logic of ethnomasochism:
https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/2015/01/14/the-inevitable-logic-of-ethnomasochism/
Everything in your post is wrong.
First the evidence in the Mike Brown case point to a totally different set of circumstances. Even if you don’t like it you must accept it.
Where are the stats that prove that whites are killing blacks right and left?
As for drug use, again, where’s the proof that whites are more likely to use drugs? And who’s forcing anyone to use drugs?
Such a whiny WHITE SJW troll you are “Malik”
I call bullshit on your post.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/18965-black-cop-kills-unarmed-white-youth-media-and-feds-silent
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201109/texas-gang-rape-11-year-old-girl-story
That’s about the most blue pill post and attitude I’ve seen displayed here to date. Do you even ROK brah.
Why is this the featured comment? Did the Black Panthers hack ROK?
Maybe Donovan is highlighting the problem that is summed up so nicely in the featured post? Dunno man.
Bullseye
“Mike Brown was killed by white cops SHOT SIX TIMES TWICE IN THE HEAD. The kill shot was a fucking head shot and if the officers where aiming at body like they ‘Claim’ then thy KEPT SHOOTING AS HE WAS FALLING. AND THEY ARE FUCKING FREE RIGHT NOW.”
You can’t even get the number of police involved right, which was a singular one (1), not “cops,” not “officers… aiming at body like they ‘claim’ then thy [sic] KEPT SHOOTING… AND THEY…”
Now in the real world of facts, the evidence was so overwhelmingly that Obama, Eric Holder, and all the fascist racist media couldn’t successfully railroad officer Wilson.
If blacks don’t want to be shot by police or citizens of other races then: don’t commit robbery and home invasions, don’t assault people, don’t resist arrest, don’t flee arrest.
Meanwhile, non-blacks are the ones who have to be concerned about being victims of “knockout” games, “polar bear hunting,” etc.
http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/
ironic upvote.
Spoken like a true black dumb racist… So “blacks are killed across the nation” because the police shoot 2-3 thugs. Meanwhile, you ignore the violent blacks who murder people at 20 times the rates of other races. Stay in your fictional world, racist idiot.
Would someone be so kind as to tell me what the word “racism” means? All I have is a dictionary and it is not helping me to understand when people use the term.
In popular usage it means that you said something perceived as negative against a person of color irrespective of facts or evidence.
But today if you say something negative that is true and can be backed up with facts and evidence, you’re still racist. You just can’t say anything negative. Only positive things. Even if those positive things are lies.
Why not ask the Marxist Leon Trotsky who invented it? Before that it was just ok for white people to be white…..
As far as race goes, I’m just not listening anymore. The whole construct of Racism is a war against Europeans, especially us Nordic types. I’m not debating anyone on our right to exist as a people.
I agree with your mother, Donovan. You should find yourself a nice African-American girl. Unfortunately miscegenation has been made cool, enlightened and surely a way for White women to gain approval of their new male authorities – the media, government, educational system triad, headed up by the Saturday people who are dedicated to the genetic destruction of Europeans.
I like the radical Blacks who are just itching for a fight. I hope they attack YT en mass. It would be the best thing that could happen to Europeans. Nature abhors weak things. Europeans are on their way out. An alien people have been allowed to do our thinking for us, until that changes we will continue on the road to extinction.
It would effectively kill the identity of other racial groups and cultures too.
The problem as I see it is not racism. But how you act on that racism. Most “Racist” whites are just realists who don’t want to live near blacks because they are more violent, don’t want to employ blacks because they are lazy and unintelligent, don’t want their kids to hang around or breed with blacks because it means the dumbing down of their kids and end of the beautiful white genetic line. In reality, that is their right. On the other hand Racist blacks verbally and physically abuse white people, accuse them of racism and holding them back, and want to steal the product of white peoples labour, and subvert their rights to private property, freedom of speech, association and assembly. And whilst whites get called out on their “racism” all the time, even if it is just an accusation of what is contained in a white persons head, some nebulous term like “white privilege” or being hounded for lack of “diversity” in a workplace or neighbourhood, blacks are allowed to wear their racism externally and have openly horrible attitudes towards white people. Diversity means chasing down the last white child. Anti-Racism really is Anti-white.
Im just going to leave this here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6IJV_0p64s
How dare a white man tell the black community that they should take responsibility for rebuilding their community!
Oh wait… wait a second… D:
I was gunna post some Thomas Sowell on here but you beat me to it. Like Donovan pointed out, his black friends said educating yourself and being smart is “being white”. What the fuck. Here in Canada I’ve noticed the same trend. How can you blame whites for your situation when you glorify ignorance, stupidity, criminality and don’t work hard to improve yourself. It’s that fucking toxic victim mentality that is way too prevalent today for my liking. Everyone just needs to stop feeling so fucking sorry for themselves and blaming other people.
Love this guy. Can’t get any black people I know to give a fuck about him though.
The problem with some black people is they always blame whites for slavery. but they forget by purpose that it was black people who were selling their brothers.
a black might dispise you as a white
a muslim as a “kafir” (none-believer)
a black muslim as both !
and also they have this mind set of being victims oppressed by white people. which is simply none sens.
They also forget that slavery ended 150 years ago, and no one alive today owned a slave.
It’s fun to blame me because 200 years ago great-great-great-great-grandma was a slave and that’s why someone today can’t get a job, but it’s not really useful or relevant. It’s an excuse.
And what I Can’t really grasp is why they embrace Islam knowing that arabs spread islam in africa by enslaving black tribes !
and in the arabic tradition being an arab is being part of the higher race. but the others “the ajam” are juste good to be slaves !
speaking in a certain way all races have the same flaws,we are human after all. so there is no victim-race ! you either fight for your life and freedom or end up enslaved or killed.
life is a struggle for the cell as for the planet.
200 years ago my family was in Scotland (and England) just trying to fight off the constant cold ever present rain and get by in life. Fuck if I owe anybody anything because they have a pigmentation I do not have, nor do they owe me anything. The only thing either of us owe the other is basic human respect. The race pimps don’t see fit to let that happen though.
I’m a 24 year old Black man and I totally agree with this assessment. Too many Blacks play the victim mentality without fully realizing they are hurting themselves more than others with that mentality. Many Blacks live in the past vicariously through their ancestors since no Black person alive in America was ever in physical bondage. This mentality leads to taking no self responsibility and to blame “Whitey” for every problem they may have. There was a time when Blacks weren’t able to have a quality life in this country but the efforts of Blacks and Whites have moved us pass the times where Blacks weren’t allowed to read and write or control their own destiny. I see the victim-hood mentality as an insult to those who fought so we would not have to use any excuses to be the best we can be in this country. The liberal media is a huge tool against Blacks in this regard. Everything is presented in race-tinted glasses instead of looking at the facts especially with Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. I payed almost no attention to those cases, they were young Black men who put themselves in position to have what happened to them. Why should I deify and defend a thug? Each case was presented as, “White man kills unarmed Black man.” Being unarmed doesn’t mean a god damn thing intrinsically. Reaching for weapons and beating someone can give a reason to shoot someone justifiably. It was Black people and the media giving a complete pass to the actions of the young Black men while condemning the actions of self defense.
When young, I went to a mixed school in the Suburbs until I moved to the inner city of Chicago and attended an all Black middle and Highschool. Immediately, all the students said I talked White and encouraged me to use ebonics. They said me studying and getting good grades was also acting White. I just laughed at them inside and didn’t change one bit seeing how stupid most of them acted. To this day, I only talk to 2 Black friends of mine only because most young Black men aren’t setting and trying to reach lofty goals. Getting a decent job and clubbing is enough for most I encounter. I’m currently striving towards financial Independence which I can’t find any else doing my age so I spend most of my time in solitude working toward my goal. I’m on the cusp of achieving this and I hope to write an article on what I am doing to help other red-pill men in their quest for financial freedom. Black people need to stop looking out and blaming every one else for their problems. I haven’t been stopped from trying to achieve my goals from any White person, in fact, in my personal experience, it was other Black people who attempted to derail me more than anyone else. Blacks also need to disown and ridicule Hip-hop culture instead of adopting it as a lifestyle of thuggery and focus on education and self-improvement.
so good to see a free thinking man. welcome to being a man (a man being someone who can critically think) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F91Uj5rmSeI
Awesome…
The Brits still have their moments.
Edit: Upon further review, the guy is a full of shit Neocon. He demonizes Assad and Russia, two of the few bulwarks against international zionist globalism.
Wolf in sheeps clothing.
” They said me studying and getting good grades was also acting White”
I bet today they are all like: “The White man is keeping me down!”
Anyway, man. I’m glad you had the brains and the guts to resist the herd instinct. best of luck in achieving your goals. Cheers!
Rasmussen did a poll of Americans and asked them which group is most racist. Everyone agreed, including the blacks that were polled, that blacks are most racist. Whites came is as less racist than Mexicans and blacks. The ONLY respondents who thought that whites are more racist were democrats. Dumb fucking liberals.
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/july_2013/more_americans_view_blacks_as_racist_than_whites_hispanics
Makes sense. The Democratic party is the natural home of the self-loathing swipl.
I’ve been to some Asian countries. They have a real fucking disdain for anyone not Asian.
And the same poll shows conservatives believe only 12% of whites are racist. That’s either ignorance or stupidity. Since red-states are statistically proven to be the least educated states it’s probably both. Congrats SGT Pogue aka ‘Dummy’.
That’s because of the propensity of DWL’s.
Who cares what niggers think, niggers are stupid lol
You’re the dummy. Some of the most intelligent people were eugenicists. The SS was made up of the best physical and highest IQ people.They were going to breed with select females and produce a superior race.
And the blue states are just like them
Some of them do. But Korean girls love them some black men.
The SS. They’re all dead aren’t they?
No they don’t, they are fucking racist ass pieces of shit, that all other people in Asia hate… On the other hand, Japanese girls like black men… Koreans look at black people in disgust…
Your a nigger, so doesn’t that make you stupid too?
They can look at me in disgust all they want… While I’m banging their chicks…
When we understand racism as a structure, “reverse racism” sounds silly. If you’re mean to your boss as a worker, does that make you a “reverse capitalist” who is failing to see that “we’re all human,” and that ‘worker’ and ‘boss’ are just labels?
Liberals remind me of that kid who walked down the hallway in school bumping into people because he had his nose in a book reading, some are book smart but lack common sense and a common view on things, they are blind or ignorant in many ways, it’s almost like they are lacking something on one side of the brain. Can’t really explain it and certainly don’t understand their point of view on a lot of things, it just makes no sense whatsoever.
Come on man, show some dignity.
Yep ! I also agree with that 100%
I have been to Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, and other south east Asian countries and I’ve found this to be true as well. They are much more “closed” society’s than Europe or the west.
Given the substantial social ills caused by blacks as a group (violent crime, illegitimate births, dropout rates and school underperformance, destruction of neighborhoods, civil disobedience over the slightest thing, etc., etc., I would say white racism against blacks (as a group) is pretty justified.
And your post is poorly written and hard to understand, so I don’t think you are the one to be talking about “the least educated states,” or calling someone a “Dummy.” You don’t come across as a rocket scientist yourself.
you are exactly the definition of the disrespectful black mentality we are talking about in this article. have some respect for fuck sakes. stop putting the country to shame
this article made a lot of sense to me. I don’t hear you giving any rational explanations?
What are you blathering on about? Stop acting butthurt.
I thought Asian people were Infamous for idolizing white people. Considering the fact that they fetish anything of western origin, get plastic surgery to look Caucasian, primary feature white-looking characters in their anime, and worship white men as sex gods.
I can attest to that. I have family in Hong Kong, and I’ve also been to Japan. If you are NOT Japanese in Japan, you are third class, until you show your credit card. If you say you’re Canadian things improve. One person asked me if I had Japanese ancestry and I lied and said yes. They do NOT like the Chinese. In Hong Kong, which is vastly more cosmopolitan than the rural areas or other cities, it’s not so bad if you aren’t Chinese, but don’t expect them to cater to you. If you go into the rural areas you are CLEARLY an invader. My mom has a friend who went to Africa several years ago. I don’t recall what country, but somewhere in central or south central Africa. When they exited a taxi into the streets of one city, cries of “MUZUNGU” rang out everywhere. This is, in their language, the word for “whiite.” White folks in Africa are a spectacle, everyone looks at them, everyone watches them. Again, I appreciate what the ancestors of todays white and asian and other cultural groups did to one another in the past and it is by no means acceptable, but the people alive today are NOT responsible for what happened in the past, only what happens in the present. Either there is endemic idiocy spreading around the world or people just want an excuse to pull the trigger. I worry for the future.
Asia is full of racism. India vs Chinese, Indians vs Muslims, Chinese vs Muslims (I understand muslims are not a race but as a group they are extraordinarily intolerant), Japanese vs Chinese, Korean vs Chinese vs Japanese, Vietnamese vs Thai vs Singapore, it goes on and on and on. If you don’t LOOK enough like that person, you are intolerant to them. I’m so glad I don’t live there.
That’s common among Indians, among the Japanese it would ostracize you, same with among the Chinese. About the only western things done in China and Japan are adjusting ear positions, coloring hair and breast implants.
The Liberals are the passive group among the left, not necessarily the nerdy ones.
I didn’t mean nerdy necessarily, I meant a lack of common sense, some of the smartest people I’ve met are also the dumbest when it comes to common sense. The way the left side views certain things to me makes no sense whatsoever and I don’t understand how they can see certain things the way they do, to me it seems they lack something that points out the obvious in certain scenarios.
Not so much Japan. Theyre pretty nice people. My mother is italian and was hired by a Japanese trade company. I am mixed with latina and black as well and when i met twoexcange students from japan they were very nice she even invited ne to her home. Japanese also have quite a few black entertainers who are idolized. We instantly became friends. Also. I had quite a bit of phillipino/chinese friends growing up.
Hell, even within PRC, there is rampant racism between groups—even within the Han ethnic group.
The blacks that were polled were probably democrats. You must be using faux news math.
Thats very true They DO NOTluke chinese. You mistake them for chinese, they go nuts.
Muslims are intolerant? Ummm. There are 56 Muslim countries in the world, many are black.
I am white (Muslim) my husband is Arab. I have friends from Sudan (Muslim), Somalia (Muslim) black American (Muslim), Palestinian (Christian + Muslim), Tunisian (black and light skinned), Yemeni, Bangladeshi (light and dark skinned Muslims), Latina (Muslim some married to Pakistanis, Arabs, Indians and black Muslims),
I could go on forever. What do we all have in common? We meet up frequently. Women with women, men with men. Muslims are UNIVERSAL from East to West. Only 18% of Muslims are Arab, Islam will be the world’s most dominant religion by 2100 because of sub Sahara Africa’s birth rate according to the Pew Research.
I have NEVER noticed any racism among my peers. Do you even KNOW any Muslims? From your statement, you sound like Fox News.
It takes courage to own up to your own flaws and shortcomings. This is part of what being a good man (or woman) is all about. Unfortunately, black culture doesn’t have great male role models to promote these self sacrificing attitudes and instead highlights leaders that display the “victim” role or in hip-hop the egotistical “cool” thug who is out to get his. Neither one of these mentalities is manly. I hope for the sake of black people that more manly role models start seeming cool and not “white”.
And that’s why all these calls for greater diversity in Hollywood aren’t going to be all that successful in the long run. Asians don’t give two fucks about identity politics and would much rather watch films with whites or Asians in the leading roles.
As the Asian market for Hollywood films continues to grow, hopefully the SJW mentality will recede (due to lack of global demand).
In fairness, Korean girls seem to love whatever isn’t Korean.
Hi, you really bring out the crazies Bob. In this case I feel it is one of those times where the wise words of DMX would need to be brought to the conversation.
“I’m tired of weak ass niggaz whining about pussy that don’t belong to them…fuck is wrong with them?”
LOL! DMX had some great lines. I like this one from Puffy:
LOL we have this same disease of RoK sometimes.
You got that right.
Korean girls will do some of the most filthy and disgusting shit and that is inversely proportionate to their social class.
You show me a Korean girl who has a wealthy hard working dad, took piano lessons as a kid and has never seen a hard day in her life and I will show you a girl who will lick your galblatter — through your asshole.
The Korean women I have known are quite the opposite. Some have even made comments not understanding why a woman would let a black man touch them.
My wife and I were thinking about moving to Japan if Hillary wins. I’m white, she’s black. Based on your experience how do you think that would go over?
Japanese have a deep mistrust and often outright hatred of other asians wheras whites are the tollerated foreign prsence or accessory like a handbag for young Japanese girls in their 20’s.
Lived there for 6 years.
Brining a woman to Japan is like brining a baloney sandwhich to a buffet..
Work will be your main challenge.
Any discrimination you face in Japan will be at least polite and mostly non agressive..
Good to see you found a new friend!
I guess not all Korean women think with one mind. Fancy that. But maybe your Korean friends haven’t had me touch them yet.
Btw, I “touched” a Korean woman in a club in Miami. She didn’t seem to have a problem with it and “touched” me back.
I found this about Japanese when I lived in Japan.
I was always treated kindly. Like a guest. But it was clear also that I could never be one of them. That simply could not be allowed.
I still love Japan and the Japanese people. But they prefer to be among people like themselves most of the time.
I do not have a problem with that as they are kind and have a sense of ethics with being honest and kind. They just do not want you around all the time.
For me, fair enough. If you are a foreigner living in Japan, it is the freest country in the world. Have a few foreign and Japanese friends. Live sort of at the fringe of society, but comfortable. Japaense will seldom allow you to rise and be the boss of other Japaense people. But you will be paid a decent wage and be left alone as long as you do not make waves.
Well it must be hard to be racist when you can enslave any color I guess. Another fun fact, muslims appear to not discriminate the color of any infidel they behead, or rape.
Truly, a very progressive religion.
Well, that is simple. First you must become a Japanese. Second, you train hard and quickly to become a ninja like them. And third, to give you extra-special cover, you take a wife.
Well, there is a reason for that. IN ancient times the Chinese they make joke and they make pee pee in their coke.
LOL!
STFU.
Thats because racism as defined by Democrats is simply to exist while being white.
Yes, we lived in China for 4 years, until just recently, and never had a problem. My husband and I are white, and were always treated pretty well. It took no time to realize that they all but worshipped ‘pale’ skin, and did not particularly like Blacks. It was astounding to see the vast array of skin lightening cream sold over there! (And it seemed like their fave film was Titanic)
This is generally true, and true for almost every country and ethnicity in existence. Racism is a human trait. However, I am married to a Filipina and I find that the Filipinos are not generally prejudiced against whites. I have heard from black friends that there is some prejudice against black Americans, but I didn’t see them having a problem getting a Filipina girlfriend or wife.
In Thailand they look down on anyone that is not Thai. I am ok with that as that is pretty much par for the course everywhere. What is interesting in this context is that they label and group African Americans in with American and Americans in with Europeans. So, to a Thai, all these black Americans are just Americans, and are in fact Europeans. They treat African Africans much, much, worse.
That was my attitude in Thailand. They could look down on me and think I am a barbarian piece of shit all they wanted, as long as I was banging slim young Thai girls. Of course, those days are long behind me.
Good point. Muslims are equal opportunity beheaders of anyone, of any color, creed, or place of national origin, that are not Muslims.
I have found that to be true of all young women (or at least enough of them). They are just as intent on getting their flags as is Roosh.
Getting pretty close, but there may be a few surviving old geezers that were let into the US under project Paperclip, or just lied.
I find niggers more acceptable than I do wiggers (look it up). Maybe that is because I can take no in-group responsibility for niggers but have to live with the shame of being part of the ethnic group that produces wiggers. And there are more and more of them everyday.
True that. I just find the desire to fuck outside the culture most strong in Koreans. It might be just the ones I have met…which, admittedly, is only a dozen or so
Pretty sure that’s not possible, unless both of you have Japanese heritage.
First and foremost, what is “black culture”? Not all black men/women share the same experience. For example, Black Americans differ from Black people from the Caribbean, South America or Africa. Secondly, Thug culture & the victim complex are the symptoms of a matriarchal households that has been upheld by the liberal agenda.
The main diseases affecting the Black Community are envy, blame-shifting, and slavish obsession with White women. Seems like that is just about all you talk about. The only thing you can be proud of in life is that you don’t date women of your own race. How strange.
They would be right to beat you to death in the streets.
It would be unrealistic to lump any group of people under one strict definition.
My experience with Koreans are with those from Korea, not here and I can only speak from my experience not yours.
This has been my experience. Koreans are not big fans of black people.
Yeah, they are fucking ignorant and ashaned of their own race, i’ve never seen any other race that wants to be white so bad and will, willfully dumb themselves down in front of white people. Most Asians I know are fiercely proud of their heritage.
Looks like in going to Japan. I find that Japanese people are quite attractive. Their features are far less “eastern” if you will. Plus, a Japanese woman with big tuits is a real boner producer.
You make good point in saying not all black culture is the same or that everybody shares the same experience. The “symptoms” of an “agenda” is an example of not taking responsibility and blaming actions on others. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and by saying ” other people’s agenda made me this do this,it’s not my fault” shows little self reflection and honesty.
You’re absolutely right. I have experience with Koreans from Korea and the US. In my opinion, the ones from Korea are friendlier but who truly knows the content of a man’s soul…
You probably think that comment is really clever.
Sorry to hear that mate..as an Asian myself i do make every effort to bond with my European and American collegues.The main issue with Asians in general is the “closed-society” mindset as well as the victim card.Many Asians still feel “oppressed” by the Western nations when in reality colonism ended decades ago and the West has more than made amends by allowing us onto the world stage.Personally I have nothing but disdain for these people.
Go to a secluded corner and pull the detonator on your vest, please.
You’re an idiot.
Black people don’t benefit from racism you idiot.
Yeah, the Japanese hate anyone non-Japanese, even other Asians. Totally racist country. And they’ll let you know it too.
One thing about that. They are super polite, freindly, and professional. Then when your months of work are over and a colleague takes you to the airport, you’ll thank him for his hospitality and kindness. . .And since he’ll never see you again, he lets you have it. They were only nice because they had to be, and now that they got what they wanted they’re happy to see you off. Don’t come back. And this will be from a guy you’d partied with and had you over to his home. Seen it, been there.
Muslim women, specifically Arab and Persian, make for very tasty treats. When young, cause they don’t age well. LOL
Yep 6 years in had not one guy friend. Wasn’t for lack of trying.
You better be very smart. Those guys are unbelievable. The smartest guy I EVER met was from Japan. And he was the best fighter I ever seen also. A big fella was picking on him and I said something to the guy and before I knew it he was on the ground literary snoring.
I mistook a white south african for a german
once and the guy came completely unwound.Wanted to go outside of the bar and fight! I told him to go home and sober up. lol
As a Japanese girl, I think your statement is a truth. When I moved to the states no one was nice it’s bc I’m a foreigner. But I’m glad it was that way bc now I have some true friends.
What is affirmative action all about then?
SO true.
No. They like white mixed with Asian. I was there and elevated to princess level. even though I am 100 percent white because I have silky black hair and large eyes they considered me mixed. It’s an advantage but they do not like Black/African people-seriously racist.
OH GOD I HATE THOSE KOREAN SOAPS.
They don’t like Black people but the disaster happened and Trump won so I am glad you’re stuck there-maybe he’ll build a wall and not let you out:) I live in Europe-I am lucky. such gorgeous people and intelligent too. See ya!
Not well. You’re a weirdo. All men prefer white women. except for misogynists like you-oh and closeted gays.
You are an asshole.
God you are stupid-Japanese women are flat as boards. HAHAHAhAHAHA what a fucking idiot you are!
And NO one likes black women hahaha
ha! That’s cool-combs is smart.
Fuck you-sad because Jewish men have little pricks. It is the Jewish curse all other races with big noses have nice sized penises-Jewish men are Gross! Jealous much-I’d never fuck a jew. Biracial men like Alfred Enoch are chocolaty delicious!
hite women like me are revered:)
all Asians consider white women superior which is why they all carry parasols and stay out of the sun and use pearl cream to bleach their skin. They know we are princesses especially those of us with porcelain skin and raven hair.
I know muslims and they are all misogynist just below the surface. You don’t have to scratch very deeply because ingrained int hem is the pedophile prophet who married a and raped a nine year old girl and said it is okay to beat your wife. Fuck Islam.
even in Ataturk’s “secular” Turkey the Islamic cult forbids a man from being charged with rape if “only” a woman reports it. I would like the job of castrating all fundamentalist( and not) Islamic males. It only takes one cut while you are sleeping and in the U.S. I can cry rape.:) So glad in Europe and the USA I can do what I want.
hilarious:D
yes, they are a very politically correct people; they do not discriminate.
😀
NO. All Asian women want to be white from Korea to Japan to Thailand they protect their skin from the sun because white women are revered-I know I am beautiful and white and I have lived in Asia and travelled extensively there.
Ughhh I live in Tokyo currently, apparently times have changed since the 40’s sugar. They are sporting corn rows dark tan skin, hip hop fashion and tall pitch black boy friends. Ive also lived in Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore they seem to be catching on to the band wagon. Last time I checked white women have not been relevant in desirability for quite some time. The stats from online dating speak for themselves…. Well.. Hey you MIGHT be beautiful but you damn sure ain’t relevant. You’ll most likely end up getting ran through by a group of black men with 13 in cocks
Tell that to my Italian neighbor.
Why? I’m offended you’d say such a thing my dear.
I am an expert in the Japonicus femininicus. These are just the findings of my research project in the Land of the Rising Sun.
we white women prefer mochalattes. Look at that hideous picture in your avatar-I wouldn’t let your little American dick near me. You forget it’s a two way street. White women PREFER chocolate men. They are soo handsome. But we also like European men except for the English and Germans. Spaniards are gorgeous, Hungarians and Georgians all strapping with nice sized penises. You americans have small dicks-even your ugly president with his small hands-I wouldn’t waste my time. Trump has a face like a prune-HIDeOUS. And a body like Alfred hitchcock-hideous. Get the fuck out of our lives you unintelligent, entitled, misogynistic American idiots- go run to asia where they’ll walk behind you and suck your little dick if you buy them. I want trump aass to build a wall around America and NOT LET YOU OUT-you are so fucking stupid.:D
you’re a fag-slim young thai women look like 12 year old boys. HAHAHAHA1 NO ass. I have such a nice ass-not a flat wide white ass not a huge ass a perfect ass. Just like you-you are a perfect ass.
I am a white woman with porcelain skin and high cheekbones and large beautiful dark eyes and I am worshipped in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, And North and South America. I’ve got it all.
Italians except for Venitians are barbarians-hairy little monsters-so who cares? Also they scream monkey at soccer games whenever a balck person plays so your neighbor is a weird one. Kinda like you. black women take it up the ass so he’s probably using her for that.
optitard, You are an asshole and haven’t actually visited Tokyo. I just came from there and went shopping and the most expensive creams are whitening creams which can cost upwards of $500. You moron. I guess you visited the ghetto part of town and hip hop is not cultured so “catchingon” to it is not progress. You would like Paris because the refugees have ruined it standing outside the Sacre Caouer playing tacky music and dancing in the street. I guess you like ghetto. Actually Japanese people like sasalsa hate to break your bubble. Boy on the bubble. or ancient old man in the closet.
jesus you must be like 90 years old. Do your grandkids know you’re such a fucking perverted slime ball bigot?
Yes, apparently you are the only person other than myself on this forum who has actually BEEN to Asia.
No way. Chinese people get their ugly frog eyes with no epithelial folds fixed so they don’t look like down syndrome patients. You are seriously misinformed. Chinese women get a lot of eyelid surgery. So you are wrong about that, Again.
the largest breasts out of the races so who the fuck do you think they are trying to look like with breast implants? Asians are naturally small-breasted, you idiot-“ostracized” for trying to be western. And who has red and brown hair and blond/ Certainly not black chicks or Asian chicks so you are completely illogical in your argument. Ridiculous, actually.
And conservatives have double digit IQs I think I’d prefer bumping into people.
Ew. you are a racist-a real relic. I am surprised to have found you. I thought you were extinct with the dinasaurs but apparently you are still here; what are you 90? Black men are so hot but black women are so jealous of white women and not that bright either but I don’t call them criminals. Jesus you are like a swamp monster from the 50s coming back to life.
Yes except on an archaeological dig on this forum I found one surviving relic, Blue eyed devil-he must be 99.
You are a cocksucker so why don’t you han yourself You jealous, teeny- dicked, useless, white piece of shit..
Uh oh boys and girls, watch your coke around this one! I’ve been warning you. They think it’s funny but there is nothing funny about drinking urine
I’m white, ASSHOLE. Go take a Viagra and fuck your corpse of a wife you should be composted you are so fucking old.
Phew. Because I was going to have a coke and was afraid you’d make pee pee in it.
So now that we got that out of the way, why are you so angry?
Damn.. butthurt again, chimpie? Maybe if you learned to walk upright, and could get a job, you wouldn’t have so much time to waste on a site where you clearly don’t belong. Troll.
Nope lived right in the heart of Shibuya south of the Hachiko exit. Spare me the bullshit please. Miss oh I’m SO rich… Bitch plz..
Last time I checked, in college, it was the snow bunny nursing majors takin it up the ass. You ever been around the ASU dorms on a sat night. Dude plz… Monkey see monkey do.. Whatever, a bitch is a bitch and I’m sure some black hoes do take it up the ass, I wouldn’t know I was too busy railing white and Asian bitches.
Black women are so Jealous I am guessing you’re a black woman who desperately wants to be wanted but ISN’T.
Online dating suggests white women are most desireable followed by Latinas THen ASIANS THEn BLACKS. BLACKS ARE BY FAR THE LEAST DESIRABLE_LIKE YOU! So while I am MOST relevant now with my gorgeous dark hair and eyes and porcelain skin YOU WILL NEVER BE RELeVANTm glad it does you FUGLY entitled affirmative action, untalented stupid Black Bitch. Go watch some stupid shonda rhimes(jaba the Hut) show like grey’s Anatomy or scandal with retarded Kelly Washington’s deformed mouth. She tries to be so white it is hilarious I feel so sorry for her it’s like she has a disorder. She went from being this ghetto black chick with a big nose to talking like a valley girl and getting tons of plastic surgery like apefaced beyonce.
Honey you are just a ghetto whore who probably used her affirmative action financial aid package to get a chance to visit Japan. You definitely do not have the intellect to get there any other way.
NO self-respecting white girl takes it up the ass. Black women have to they have no alternative they are so desperate to be wanted.
Black men are handsome-black women are vicious apes jealous of white women.
I would too-Germans are scary!
Because I have a family of American idiots. I live in Europe but they still call. I am hoping Trump will build a wall and not let them out.;D That’s why. I cannot stand the stupidity in America anymore it irritates me. And now you elected a fucking buffoon-a mentally ill idiot to office. It’s a disgrace. TaT’s why. And I am a White woman with a high intellect and a conscience- the only segment of the population who doesn’t benefit in America.
The most reasonable statement on this thread-thank you. I am less angry knowing there is a reasonable American still living there.
Do you realize you sound like a ranting lunatic? As for “high intelligence” nothing you have said seems to indicate that. In fact, looking at your comments I would suggest quite the opposite is true. Of course, maybe you are just ranting for the carthartic experience but you come off as far below average intelligence and, quite honestly, mentally unstable.
Fine by me ya know, you be you. But that is what you are giving off.
Thank you for that, because coming from you I take that as a huge compliment. Must be I am sane and a genius since your comments suggest you have a double digit Iq and are a racist psycho. Ciao!
This is eight months after your original comment, but can you elaborate? I’m curious, is it with Jap men kind of a Mishima thing- that they are intelligent enough to respect us, but the fact we so soundly defeated them still irks them, assaults their manhood somehow? I did once have a drunk nip berate me and one of my waifus in public, and initially the other Jap dudes were just looking downcast and embarrassed, but they ended up beating his ass! The overt rudeness was why they pounded him, I’m SURE they agreed with what he had to say about the filthy red-bearded, blonde gaijin savage fucking their women. And I DID fuck their women (having a jap GF is like having a cook/maid/pet you can fuck). But I never had any of my nip male friends turn on me. But I was a pretty famous punk rock dude back in the day, so most of the guys I was hanging with were music people… with tats, so not your normal japs.
Hey, neko I will pet your neko. I am antonio baka guy
I fuck coonass on the regular. When dudes say black bitches don’t take it up the ass, or eat ass, they just aren’t paying them enough. All women are whores, but at least jigbedwenches are up front about it.
Don’t tell me not to touch your head when you are blowing me if I am paying for your weave, tho, bitch
Those are a small subculture and you know it. Just like I ran through all the punk rock and skinhead bitches.
Yep. I’ve had a couple who love to eat ass and wouldn’t let me shower first. Said they loved the salty apple taste. Don’t come round me if you been eating kimchi tho bitch. Makes the pussy stink.
Sure they do, jackass. Affirmative Action, for one
Nah, wiggers are rapidly fading. They are like hippes or juggalos. So 95-02.
Lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IfAOcEHP9mY
Nope it’s pretty large, but like everything in Japan that is trendy it’s all just a “subculture” glad you had fun. It don’t matter the genre they all have the same pussy and truth be told it’s just… Alright… From Hokkaido to Okinawa the ass was all the same bruh.. Koreans are better in bed.
You already showed your lameness. Paying a bitch for sex, you a dumb ass nigga. Especially if it’s a black or white bitch. Atleast let it b something exotic, dumb nigga.
What in the actual fuck?
Choke on white dick, coon!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ungXT10i8nw
You dumb bitch. Typical idiot nigger. I DON’T PAY THEM FOR SEX. I PAY THEM TO KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AND SO I DON’T HAVE TO PRETEND TO LIKE THEM OR PRETEND TO LISTEN TO THEIR PROBLEMS, YOU DUMBASS HOODRAT COON. I am wealthy enough (because I am white and not stupid, like you) that I can throw some ho 250 bux an hour for the convenience of having them lick my ass and then kick em out. I have no prob not paying for it- I get more than you EVER have, what with you having no game- BUT PAYING BITCHES STRIPS THE BULLSHIT AWAY. IT IS LIKE BUYING A BOX OF KLEENEX, ya dumb “pimp”. You don’t know shit about women, game, or anything else. Or you’d be wealthy like me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ungXT10i8nw
Lol! Hit a soft spot didn’t I? Now we’re gettin some where. Bottom line, you are just a lame the type of guy that would get slapped up at a party in front of his girl and friends and not do a damn thing. Nigger this nigger that hahaha jiggaboo lol. My god you’re lame. No offense taken bruh. Thats what it’s like to have confidence and be a real man. But this is why people like you will be purged.
ROFLMAO no soft spot. I just hate niggers.
You sure do have a lot of hatred kid. No doubt about that. Doesn’t affect me though.
But they’re so cute. I can’t imagine such obscenities emanating from their pretty mouths. Its almost as if some moron just made up his own subtitles and added them to the video.
LOL yeah, YOU THINK? Lol @ groid “intelligence”. No wonder you have to parasite off of us. Your entire race has Dunning-Kruger syndrome. You always confuse playing master of the obvious with being insightful. It’s actually embarrassing to watch.
Ah I see sarcasm is beyond your superior intelligence.
Only one problem with your prediction that Islam will be the world’s most dominant religion by 2100. God has something planned called Armageddon in which Muslim, Russian and Chinese blood will flow as high as a horse’s bridle; as they are once and forever dealt with by Jesus and his saints.
Yep, an agenda meant to keep them dependant on the democrats. Liberals pit poor blacks and whites against one another and keep them on a leash via subsidies. I’ve been around ghetto culture and trailer park culture, having grown up in an area where the two overlapped. The only difference? You guessed it, skin color. Both every bit as racist, crime ridden and dysfunctional as the other. Yet they had no problem crossing racial lines to sleep together.
I also know that ghetto culture does not equal black culture any more than trailer park culture equals white culture.
Stfu
That’s actually pretty accurate. They get all of their political views from academics who are so deep in their sophistry and semantics that the real world is alien to them.
Ugh stfu
You commented on something from 2 yrs ago.. #FUCKINLOSER!
So did you, hahahahahaha
Why did you marry outside your race. Now you will have more problems and lower IQ “kidz.”
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if that were the case and thanks man! Hope to have some insight from my current financial endeavors this week and will be writing up an article soon once I get past the first few hurdles.
well in that case, I’ll be holding my fingers crossed for you.
True Greatness can be a lonely place.
Those people are narcissists. Whining and crying because they can’t get their way.
Well yeah that may be true
Right on. Slavery is over, the people behind it are gone. Should we hate on the Germans too for World War II ? It would be ridiculous. If we never forgot history we could hate left and right forever. What about hating the Romans for being an oppressing superpower 2000 years ago. I think I could find reasons to hate everyone. Africans ? everyone tells me how nice they are but people forget their tribal wars. Two tribes had a war going on for centuries, both killing and steeling women from each other but the balance of power was perfect so it continued without a final victor. One day, one tribe required guns and riffles from the white man. Next day, the other tribe was not alive anymore. That is a true story. Are you going to tell me that black people are saints ? I dont think so. No one is.
Get over it.
Hi Tom, I agree that many Afro-centrists paint Africa as some sort of Utopia before White people arrived which is complete bullshit. The misconceptions arrive when people forget that Africa was not a homogeneous society like Japan was for almost its entire history. People like to put all Black people in the same group without realizing there were many different ethnic groups of Blacks who historically hated each other like early tribes in Europe, Asia, and everywhere else. Black people are capable of good and evil like anyone else. All kinds of people were oppressed throughout history, American Slavery is just one of the more recent occurrences.
No one paints Africa as a “Utopia” and any who reads knows that Africa (A gigantic Continent that can fit Europe, China, India and America inside of it is diverse). But at the same time for centuries Whitewashed history exaggerated any negative points about Africa and Black people…you can also speak on that. People on websites like these explain things as if they discovered a history not spoken in public when basically it was the same generalized history spoken of publicly for centuries to justify barbaric behavior that is the irony about the entire thing. Race wasn’t a big issue until Europeans stressed a Racial Hierarchy setting themselves on top and denigrating Black history and people. That is what caused all of these conversations in the first place.
I said “afro-centrists” and many do paint it as a relative utopia before Whites came. Many people in America know nothing about Africa. They think of animals and Mud huts, not the wide diversity of people, geography, and climate. The Whitewashed African history is true, they didn’t even think we were fully human for a while.
Many people are self aware of their history and why many others had a head start while at the same time working hard and seeking financial freedom as well. You can work hard and not be blind to the inner workings of society as well. People seem to focus on a musical artform…not all of Hip Hop is “thuggery” why not make a false example of the “evil” messages of dark metal or heavy metal and the such…I know I don’t do that…there are many layers to this obviously and the writer of this article misses many many points that makes his assessment heavily unbalanced.
Hi, I agree you should be self aware and trust me I am. In fact, I went to an African-centered charter school for 2 years, and study history as a hobby. My point is that people love to wallow and look for every excuse why they can’t succeed. To me that is more harmful than anything. I keep things simple. In this day and age that I am currently alive, the only person who can truly hold me back is myself, period. I don’t look for excuses, I look for solutions.
Exactly that is what I mean there is also an element of racism still in the works it is just indirect…that also does not mean that You “wallow and look for every excuse…” neither in fact being self aware and motivated is even better because you can still go out and work hard everyday and still keep your wits and your eyes open and things are less likely to catch you by surprise. That is what I’m saying. In fact the term “victim mentality” can be used for example for some whites on this very forum complaining for extremely trivial things compared to actual real subjugation face by other groups of people (talk about true Blue Pill)…”oh blacks can publicly criticize” this author and they say…which by the way whites can do as well look at conservative media.
I agree. It’s possible for any person to have a victim hood mentality but it doesn’t bother me because they are hurting themselves more than anyone else. I think every red-pill man should seek to make absolutely no excuses and simply seek solutions because that mindset will carry you forward no matter what happens on the outside and no matter what anyone else says or thinks. Black people need to be aware that prejudice is not completely dead, but not seek it out and make up prejudice in their own minds.
That statement I agree with..but I disagree with the analysis of this article..very unbalanced and I can counter each point.
Basically this article seems like it reeks of pandering to this audience which has an element of people who seek to only see the negatives in our people. And that’s the reason many of us dislike it. Same reason they get a Black Conservative to be a voice box and usually said Black paints a broader more generalized negative picture than his or her white conservative counterpart.
I think Black people are more free to be open about the realities in our community. I don’t think the article is perfect, but the overall message of self accountability is one that is lacking in our community. I would rather hear a Black conservative telling Black people to take control of their own destiny than an Al Sharpton looking to play the victim mentality. If Black people owned up to fixing problems in our community, than most Blacks can live a high quality of life. Expecting White people to solve our problems does nothing. Why should they care more about our community than the people in it? Black people need to stop complaining. Our ancestors had it bad, we have ipods, tv’s, cars and freedom. To me, it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks about our community, all that matters is what Blacks do to make our community better. I think people are too worried about appearances and people’s opinions over getting shit done. Also, I didn’t mention metal because metal is not very widespread in Black community like rap and hip-hop. My main problem is I see so many Black people whining and not getting shit done.
There’s pretty much a permanent underclass of black people in the U.S. I can’t see these particular people waking up and smelling the coffee because there are things in place to keep them there. Namely, government subsidies and the influence of popular culture (including those who profit from it).
I cringed when Jamie Foxx called Obama “The Messiah.”
I can’t see this changing without some kind of catastrophic event, similar to what would be required to eliminate feminism.
I don’t think it needs to be a catastrophic event at all, unless you want to consider educating yourself to be successful a catastrophic event. There may be little hope for older Black people, but there are still numerous ways to touch and positively affect many young Blacks people.
I don’t know what your exposure is to the more extreme environments (ghettos, etc.) but it’s REALLY bad.
You’ll always have a minority of people who get away from it, but I don’t see these numbers making a significant difference. Even people who aren’t so bad off keep themselves closed off to intellectualism outside of their bubble.
I lived in the ghetto for 5 years. It’s bad, but looks worse if you look at it from the outside in. In my opinion, many Blacks in the Ghetto don’t truly believe there are many other options, even though they are wrong. It will take people going in the ghetto and helping to show other ways to be successful. Will it solve all problems overnight? No. Will everyone be open and listen? No. But you can still make headway and progress especially when young. I met many who are open but fall into a viscous cycle of believing they have very few options.
I think if we make comparisons we should make healthy and balanced comparisons, you can have both ways actually at one point Martin Luther King was also ridiculed and put down and they said everything you are saying back then in the 1960’s “oh you didn’t have it as bad as the 1930’s” in the 1930’s the same thing I bet in the 1880’s there were people saying “Oh things are not as bad as the 1860s” Fact is it is not about white people “solving our problems” who the hell cares about that. Its about realizing and fighting inequalities whether it’s racial and class. Also when ignorant people make faulty comparisons sometimes you point it out…sometimes you don’t I understand that as well. The problem I see with so called “Black Conservatives” is that they place ALL the blame on their own communities…at least the one’s who serve as voice box for their Conservative White counterparts. They then get on television and present an extremely unbalanced case and seem to enjoy lambasting their own communities…for what I don’t know. Cause I don’t think Dr. Carson is not going to even smell a republican party nomination for president. He is just there as a black voice box, who does not garner the respect of most of his people anyway.
I agree.
My biggest issue with it all is people who are given things to sustain themselves aren’t going to feel the pressure to adapt to anything else.
It’s like feeding a normally wild animal on a regular basis in your backyard. If you happen to move out one day, depending on how long you’ve been doing this, the skills necessary to find food in the wild will have atrophied, if they were developed to begin with.
Black people are still a small demographic relatively speaking so the numbers make it all the more worse.
King was right. They were better in the 1960’s than 30’s. What happened after King was assassinated? Blacks destroyed their own community. Here in Chicago, I drive down the streets where the riots happened and the communities still haven’t recovered to this day. My dad was a child then and showed me where his old house was before it was burnt down by the community. It’s a vacant lot to this day. Our community needs to be lambasted, we have no excuse. The victim mentality led to many Blacks saying woe is me and destroying their OWN communities instead of carrying on Dr. King’s message and living by his example. Our community needs to be lambasted by Blacks who see the truth, we have zero excuse. We look for every chance to say woe is me and not to do better. I listen to some Black conservatives and they tell the truth, which doesn’t suit Black people staying the eternal victim. There is no excuse not to do better NOW. I’m just tired of people being more concerned about getting their little emotions hurt than owning the truth and doing better to respect the sacrifices of those who actually had to fight and die so we have the opportunities today.
I agree 100%. If all you know is how to collect welfare, than you will do nothing else that will truly make your situation in life better. I have several family members who live off of the free government check and do nothing with their lives. And then, they want to act like they are getting over on the government while they are only hurting themselves by not living the highest quality of life possible. We need to take risks and learn wealth creation instead of being some of the biggest consumers in the country.
I live in Chicago now and Chicago is a piss poor example of black culture and a perfect example of Americanized Black Culture. American Black Culture is not all of Black Culture. I lived in Brooklyn prior, with drug dealers in my back yard. And they were no where near as ignorant as the masses out here.
My question to this statement is are they Black Americans? Were they born here as third or fourth generation Americans?
I see the large Urban cities (New York, L.A., and Chicago especially) as being the hubs of Americanized Black culture, which like you said, people think is true Black culture. Unfortunately, many Blacks here in Chicago are so caught up in gangs, violence, and celebrating destructive Hip-Hop culture. (I know there is a lot of positive conscious hip-hop but we all know the negative hip-hop is glorified.) The ignorant masses in Chicago will do everything to pull you down to their level like I experienced in Middle and Highschool. We do have pockets of positive Black organizations that actually seek to uplift, but we need more help to truly make a difference here.
I’ve seen the pockets. I’m slightly involved in the pockets. But they quickly get muffled out when you have weekends where 61 people get murdered in the span of 3 days. I’ll agree with you but in truth, this is still a stamp on Black American culture. They are so anti-intellectual I worry some wouldn’t attempt to think unless a rapper told them it was cool. Any wonder why Lil’ Jon became unpopular after singing, “Read a book!” to the kids? And it is a shame because historically, the black movement was so palpable and so ahead of its time in the ’70s in Chicago it was riveting.
I don’t know if you heard, but Joakim Noah was trying to recruit a local rapper for his anti-violence organization here in Chicago because he realized what you just said. Many young Black people won’t do anything unless a rapper tells them to do it because the rappers are the leaders of many young Blacks here. After Noah met the manager of the rapper, the manager was shot and killed within 24 hours ( not necessarily saying he was killed for his efforts). It’s a shame the huge influence the mass media has over Blacks and Blacks have almost no control over mass media so the messages are dictated by people who don’t have our community at heart. We were more enlightened as a community here before I was born. We need much more influential Black groups who are spreading the right messages to truly uplift our community and drown out the negative messages of the media.
There were affluent Black Communities in the early 20th centuries that were burned down by Racist whites as well with the authorities looking away. It has happened many times before as well…there are many angles of looking at this situation.
I agree with that assessment the thing that is annoying is when certain groups are said to be the major users and abusers of welfare when they use welfare in less overall numbers than Whites and less than half the percentage rate of whites…for those who try to say I’m being deceiving with my math. That is what is hypocritical as well.
Totally agree, I did a report on “Black Wall street” in Greenwood, Oklahoma. The destruction of the town was perpetuated by Racist Whites. Still, Whites today don’t care and will never care. We need to be aware of our history but that was during the 1920’s. The race riots in Chicago were even more recent though. I know that Blacks often tried as hard as they could and were greatly successful only to be thwarted due to pure hatred and racism by some White people in this country, I’m certainly not jaded on that. My point is we can’t stop striving to be the best we can be because of the past. Many civil rights battles have occurred since incidents like Greenwood. Racist Whites want us living in the past, I’m choosing to live and strive for the best in the now. I have a personal mindset not to let the past, present, or future stop me. Black people need to be aware of their history, but shouldn’t be held back due to it.
Of course they shouldn’t be “held back” by it…they should learn about it…improve themselves and the negative elements in their community if they choose to do so while at the same time recognizing outside factors as well..and not being a mouthpiece for conservative media and criminalizing victims and focusing on the negatives and making broad statements..basically yessa bossin on tv. On another note why don’t we ever see a discussion on the ills of the negative aspects of the white community, where whites argue among themselves and we join in as outsiders giving our “higher than thou” perspectives and where there are sweeping allegations made on all groups of particular white people or where the entire white race comes into question. Seems odd doesn’t it? Or maybe its not odd at all…
Anyway there is Nothing and I mean Nothing worse than these yessa bossin negroes on television like Larry Elder, what a disgrace.
Just turn that shit off and pick up a book instead. Go to a library. It really isn’t the Herculean effort you’re making it out to be, tie your shoes like a big boy and lead by example.
I’m actually doing that. I just keep this open when at work. I have a woman boss who gives me what she thinks is a lot of work but I finish it so fast that i usually end day on computer while getting paid
Black people need to be aware that prejudice is not completely dead
It will never be dead. If there were no negroes around then it would be against other whites based on class or religion or politics or whatever.Humans are a hierarchical group and are always competing with each other for dominance.They compete for everything, even the best females.In some societies this hierarchy is subtle and in others more blatant.
Roosh couldn’t get laid in Scandinavia and he blamed it on the Jante code but he really didn’t understand it and thought it had to do with everyone being equal and no one getting above themselves or they get cut down to size to fit the others. But this human hierarchy is just very subtle in these places.In these places the custom is just to pretend people are equal to keep everyone happy (I won’t get into the reason for this here) but you can be certain that everyone, including females, knows who is who in these places.
You need to be sure it’s an accurate history and not something learned from Hollywood films. You know, even in the days of slavery there were free men and there were wealthy negro areas.And if there was a Black Wall st. then you could always build it again.Whites have been wiped out by all sorts of natural and man made disasters and then just rebuilt.Japs had two atomic bombs dropped on them and had to rebuild.Complete cities were wiped out in Europe by other humans and plagues wiped out 1/2 of Europe. They just carried on and rebuilt. Do the same and stop crying about Black Wall st. and other incidents because you can’t change the past and have to live for today.There’s no point in crying over spilt milk and it’s just a waste of time.
I don’t care how well I am doing. If I am living in Oklahoma you, or anyone really, is free to burn my shit down.
To be fair, there used to be lots of concerned parent types calling metal satanic and stuff. I think it actually preceded the criticism over hip hop
Black music has always been criticized before there was such a thing called metal in the first place..or until it gets adopted by Whites and the greater American community…this is nothing new…we can keep going back.
And before that Rock ‘n Roll;before that jazz and pop; etc.
Music should not be the main focus of someone’s life outside of the people in the business. It doesn’t matter what sort of music it is, it’s just entertainment and you should have a variety of interests not live you life around music and performers.Your main interest in life is just surviving and hopefully at a decent level. Most people need to diversify more.
Yeah music is just entertainment, although some music may contain a message that closely matches your life views as well. But yes I agree with you.
Bullshit. Many blacks were successful here, and in fact the first American slave owner was black. It has never, ever been about “white vs. black.” It is about “Free vs. Slave.”
You have to stop watching Conservative Media or stop listening to conservative idiotic false history. I call major bullshit on your statement that “the first American slave owner was black.” You are talking about Anthony Johnson and the Casor case…there were many instances of Indentured Servants who led life long indentures (slavery) before Anthony Johnson. Conservative Lies and Bullshit. I will write a lengthy comment to dispel this myth.
“Though Casor was the first person declared a slave in a civil case,
there were both black and white indentured servants sentenced to
lifetime servitude before him.”
First Slave Owner was NOT Black, this incorrect and shows the idiots who frequent these conservative websites lol. Anyway I think all people should correct this idiotic claim and the idiots who state them within the internet and publicly every single time! I wrote a more detailed response to this moronic claim…
“Though Casor was the first person declared a slave in a civil case, there
were both black and white indentured servants sentenced to lifetime
servitude
before him. Many historians describe indentured servant John Punch as
the first documented slave in America, as he was sentenced to life in
servitude as punishment for escaping in 1640.[16][17]
The Punch case was significant because it established the disparity
between his sentence as a negro and that of the two European indentured
servants who escaped with him (one described as Dutch and one as a
Scotchman). It is the first documented case in Virginia of an African
sentenced to lifetime servitude. It is considered one of the first legal
cases to make a racial distinction between black and white indentured
servants.”
Donoghue,
John (2010). “Out of the Land of Bondage”: The English Revolution and
the Atlantic Origins of Abolition”. The American Historical Review.
Hi Ashlar, I agree some Blacks were successful here even during slavery times and many Blacks were able to contribute to society over America’s entire existence. I would disagree that it was NEVER White vs. Black. Many Whites were taught that Blacks were less than human therefore justifying slavery for many over the years. Once Whites got to experience Black people firsthand over the years, many saw that they were fed a lie and overtime, things improved greatly for Blacks due to efforts by Blacks and White effort. This was a while ago, but I don’t think it’s good to be ignorant of history, just not use it as an excuse. I don’t see how the first slave owner could logically be a Black person since the first Blacks were brought to America for the singular purpose of being enslaved.
It’s called jumping the shark. Sometimes, when people get emotional they say things they can’t prove.
That’s exactly backwards. Things were better in some ways for American blacks 50 years ago, than they are today. It’s complicated.
Further, it’s usually that whites are taught that blacks are their equals, but then “firsthand experience over the years” shows them that the races may as well be from different planets.
And Third Eye, I was talking about slaves, not indentured servants. You should have noticed, given that it’s exactly what I said in my comment. Nice try moving the goalpost though.
I mostly agree w/ you. I don’t have a lot of black friends either for the samne fucking reasons! “Why do you talk that way”, “You work with computers”, “You’re the whitest black guy I know”. Wtf! Are we not supposed to be anything becasue we’re black? I want more out of life, I want everything life has to offer. It’s so stupid. LIke you I only have a a few good black friends
It is a messed up reality growing up amongst american blacks in that the anti-intellectualism stance is very strong.
It is funny. I grew up in a very black area and yes, the anti-intellectualism shit is there. However, when I got out and did really well in college and racked up a few degrees and then I went back it was like the same people who had that anti intellectual attitude were almost bragging about me.
So, while black Americans may be anti-intellectual, they are very observant of meritocracy and will lavish praise if you took it upon yourself to get credentials. At that point it is bigger than being white, it scales beyond simply going to school. It is grabbing at the same slice of Americana that every citizen wants.
Indeed. Plus, I never had problems with the black or the Rican kids growing up. They knew where I lived. They knew robbing me was pointless. It wasn’t about color. I didn’t have two fucking nickels to rub together. We all drank the same quarter waters and called it a treat. It was about money. It’s always been about money.
It was all anti intellectualism until success hit.
It’s why poor blacks have zero fucking issues with Jay Z wearing an 80 thousand dollar wrist watch. They know where he is from.
Me too! It’s hard for me to meet other blacks who think the way I do.
Check out meet-ups for black people from the caribbean. Or UK. Or Australia. Maybe Africa as well but I’m not too familiar with there culture. Caribbean blacks will probably be your best friends. There is a reason everyone vacations there at some point.
lol caribbean blacks are called creoles. They hate or dislike african americans. The creoles are more educated and cultured and they see African Americans doing all kind of hooliganism and being ghetto.
True on the disdain for American culture, but false on the creole aspect. Unless if you are talking about Haitians. Then creole is the dialect they speak. A mix of African and French dialects. It does still depend on the country but by and large, the culture and education levels are better.
I come from a Jamaican family and I couldn’t agree more. Thanks babe.
Black Americans are more racist than White Americans (on average) and most polling/voting data supports this…But worldwide it’s an impossible question to answer since there are so many different groups of Black and White people…If we compare Whites from Russia with Blacks
from Ghana or the Bahamas than I think Whites would be more racist…My point is it varies by country and area…
To explain the blatantly racist behaviors of Black Americans well I think you have the
“minority vs majority” phenomenon at work….In America Blacks are about 14 percent of the population so they have developed a sort of inferiority complex and hyper-vigilance against any threats (which
happens to most minority groups that were discriminated against in the past) because they are constantly comparing themselves to the larger group (White Americans) in culture, standards of success and beauty,
history etc etc….So it creates a sort of “chip on your shoulder” phenomenon (the same could be said of the Maori in New Zealand and other minority groups)…..
On the other hand the Bahamas or Barbados etc are like 90 percent Black so those Blacks are coming from societies
where they are the dominant powerful group and their standards (African/Caribbean) of success and beauty are the ideal standards….So they are much less vigilant against “threats” and act much less close-nit as a group…
I like the way that you put this.
As a black man who just moved to Atlanta myself, from South Florida/Caribbean, I can only agree with the original author’s points to a point, because they are all based on opinions held, and it seems a large part of the manosphere supports those opinions, regardless of the plethora of facts which could explain this phenomenon in a more evenhanded manner then what seems to be the idea here.
eh well creole has different meanings. for majority of the people in the english speaking caribbean, a creole is someone who is half african and half british. also creole is a dialect, like a lazy way to speak creole. i can speak creole too. I usually see the lighter skin people look down on darker skin people in any parts of the world.
Any one from the African diaspora hates on African Americans. It’s the AMERICAN that makes any race or ethnicity Anti-Intellectual in my opinion.
Think about it. Roosh compares American chicks VS Eastern Euro. All goes for anything American. When I go to other countries, my god do they hate on Americans. And it makes sense.
No, not true I am a Haitian/Island woman even though the African Americans in the south treated me bad I still can’t hate my own bothers and sister all of us children of slaves are from West Africa we should all love one another and not try and let whites and other cultures divide and conquer us! We really need to wake the fuck up that’s what I believe I hate the fact the the white man is done raping Africa and now ugly ass Chinese bastards are trying to have their way with her colonizing the land and giving out ever contracts to Chinese company to build housing ,developments, roads and business for Asians only , that is what really makes my blood boil ! Blacks in general are way too much of a friendly ,warm welcoming race of people compared to Asians and Whites Shit look at the New Miss Japan she is mixed with Black and Japanese but yet shit is considered an outsider in Japan and experience extreme shunning and racism going to High School were the Asians constantly harassed her and throw food at here just for being mixed!
Education levels in my country are great only if you can afford them there is nothing for free in Haiti only the wealthy kids go to school and learn to speak French,English and Spanish.
Africans would consider you as foreign as they would me.But if you go there choose a better area as you would in the US or any continent. Go where they speak English (many do) so you have something in common or were formerly British and you’d have a lot in common as far as culture.
Bermuda is good but the negroes there earn like $100k on average and homes and living are expensive and it’s kind of small.
Don’t go to Haiti.You’re an American and that’s what you know and you can still do what you want. If you want to live around Negroes then live around the good successful ones.They don’t want to be around the losers either or should you waste your life trying to improve them. Their rachet mam’s already ruined most of them and they are beyond help which is a pity.These people can only harm you and are certainly of no use to you.
Africa is a large continent after all, and if Africans in America are any tells, there is a power grab going on that is internalized in the people. Desperate people will do despicable things if they can get away with it. South Africa seems to have some potential areas worth visiting and maybe worth a trip. I say this only because I’ve met some of their women and they were beautiful.
I have never heard much mention of the Bermudas by anyone so they might be worth a visit as well, mainly to see how the atmosphere is for those who have affluence and who judge each other on merit.
Haiti has always had a staunch separation for provisions based on classism. The region, wealth, and skin tint of your affiliation, was the barrier that brought you up or held you down and no where is this stronger than Haiti, with wealth being the clearest showing of the fittest among them. I imagine many would never immigrate to America or would have done so later in life, if their countries had a better quality of life for their people.
Skin color has always been an internalized marker of status and was so before slavery. Slavery just polarized it further because to look like your persecutor meant better provisions.
The environment was always good for negroes in Bermuda but it’s small and now a well off place off S Carolina coast.
You know nothing about my country don’t get Haiti confused with India! 95% of Haiti is not mix maybe there are a few foreigners there with businesses that are wealthy there is no skin tone barrier at all, it comes down to is wealth and education my uncle is a dark skin Haitian man that decided to go to school and become a real estate developer and that’s how he earned his living no one tried to deny him of anything because of his skin tone! 95% of Haiti is black with very little mixing you really think we would let a small 5% of white population hold us down and treat us like shit? Last time that happen it did not end up too well for whitey !
So, I’m mistaken that droves of Haitians flock to Florida, the Bahamas, and America because there isn’t much of anything by way of living for them in Haiti? And I’m also mistaken although the island is Haiti, the dark skin Haitians are on one side and an invisible line in the beach separate the Dominican and Haitians from each other and a possible internal war? And am I also mistaken about the wealthier Hatians living in the mountainous regions?
It didn’t end for whitey in your country but that very slight without any ability to counter balance that, has led to Haiti being the red headed step-child of the Caribbean islands in regards to global assistance and trade relief. And political strife.
It isn’t India by any means though
Yes you are! my mom is a light skin Haitian women she is from the mountain of Jacmel yes they are light skin/white looking Haitians there not all of them are rich , some in the mountains still living without electricity my mom did not have a house with electricity until my dark skinned father who’s dad was wealthy enough to provide him with proper education worked hard in the U.S.A to bring us all here until this dd most of my moms light skin arrogant as family still live in the mountains some with no electricity.
The only reasons why there are so many light skin Haitians there is because during the Revolution The first President/Emperor Jean Desslines (Nat Turner on Steroids) with rebel army went berserk on the french and started killing the slave Masters and their families on the island almost no one was spared Men, women , children and even the Uncle Tom as slaves who wanted to side with the french and give intel were killed . The ones that did manage to escape fled to the mountains those whites and their Uncle Tom sympathizers had no choice either that or death so they created there small colony there. Another reason why a lot of money & white/ light skin Haitians live on the mountain side is the weather which is a lot cooler nicer there’s a lot of tourism mostly whites that vacation in that part and fall in love with the country and deicde to live there and for some reason now there a steady LGBT movement that jump poped up there out of nowhere …..figures right lol
A lot of the global relief money went into the Clinton’s and corrupt leaders untraceable bank accounts Haiti is slowly rising mainly due to the fact that Haitians with money from the U.S are starting to invest back into their own countries and are building business there and providing work for their people & by the way Haitians helped Dominicans gain there independence from the Spanish a great deal because they were much too cowardly to fight for themselves and when they did not need us anymore that when the whole conflict between us started happening. A lot of the political strife is mostly U.S and Foreign Mostly white people Woodrow Wilson robbed Haiti for a lot of our Natural Resources from the time he went in & left office and it continued with a few other presidents (https://history.state.gov/milestones/1914-1920/haiti) .The only real friends Haiti ever had in her struggle in the present was Venezuela who gave aid relief and help rebuild an airport in the capital .
In 10-20 years from now Haiti will not look so bad anymore a lot of us Haitians who had the old school intolerant parents who beat our asses to pull up our pants up and go to school and be respectful and get good grades in what my mom would say ”The white mans country” are starting to wake up and want to be more proactive and creating more economic growth back home since we never planned to retire and die in the U.S in the first.
“Don’t go to Haiti.You’re an American ”
lol–you do know that Americans are increasingly going to Haiti everyday right?
My first was a light skin Haitian from Jacmel. Oh the memories. That was 100 years ago it seems.
I have never met a black person like the black person you are describing.
I know a super smart black guy in the IT industry. He faces the exact same problems. Blacks tell him he ‘acts white’ because he works with computers and reads western philosophy.
The anti-intellectual mentality is the real killer in the black community.
As a black woman, I completely agree with you. Too many blacks like to complain about whites keeping them down, while they turn around and ostracize blacks who dare to rise above stereotypes.
My personal experience is that blacks who epitomize the stereotypes hate blacks like you and I; they are so ignorant that they think the only way to be black is to be a ghetto moron. I want absolutely no part of that in my life. I wish I had a dollar for every time a ghetto bitch told me that I “act white” or “talk like a white girl”. Why is it that speaking properly and making sensible decisions is associated with whiteness in those circles? It is because they don’t realize that they are oppressing themselves while accusing whites of doing so.
I wish that there were more black men who thought like you in North America. Unfortunately, there is a real push to embrace hip hop culture, laziness and being a deadbeat dad to several children. After more than one terrible experience with black men, I decided to date outside of my race and it led to a beautiful marriage. Yes, there are awful white guys out there as well and fetishization of black women is always a potential negative. However, I have found that I have been treated with far more respect and chivalry by white men. Too many black men are raised without the influence of a decent father figure, which in turn leads to them not having a good example of how to treat women.
Keep doing well and making intelligent choices. We need more black men like you.
I appreciate your kind words and had a question of how Black people you know treat your relationship? I know many parents (including mine) in the Black community push Blacks to only marry other Blacks. It’s hard to find a compatible Black woman my age and I dated a Chinese girl in college to the dissatisfaction of my parents. I’ve explained that I want to date/marry someone I’m compatible with, not a skin color. If they are Black and compatible, I would have no problem dating/marrying a Black woman. I simply made the point that I won’t turn down a compatible woman due to the color of her skin. Would love to hear your experience if willing to share.
No problem. I don’t mind sharing with anyone who is respectful.
Most blacks are unhappy with my relationship. My husband and I get a lot of stares from blacks and even negative comments. The ghetto women I mentioned love to say “I could NEVER be with a white man!” while the black men they have kids with are not taking care of their responsibilities. I find their logic ridiculous yet entertaining. I don’t care who doesn’t approve. My husband and I like to kiss when idiots gawk at us.
My parents would have preferred for me to marry a black man. However, they were accustomed to seeing me date white men so my husband wasn’t a surprise. I have had many discussions with my parents about my choices and they completely understand why I chose to date white guys. Though my parents are old fashioned, they also understand that black men today are very different from the black men in their generation. My parents only wanted me to be treated well by the man I chose to marry. They didn’t care that I found love and adoration from a white man as long as he treated me the way a good woman should be treated.
Only stupid people turn down compatible partners based purely on race. If you find love from a woman who isn’t black, more power to you and I wish you every happiness. It’s hard to find a black woman who isn’t a single mother with an attitude problem. Why should you sign up for that just to please other blacks?
Thanks for sharing your experiences and I agree with you completely. It’s always foolish to marry to make someone else happy because you have to live with the person you marry. If you aren’t truly happy, it’s a disservice to yourself and your partner. Single parent Black households are an epidemic here in America. Many young Black woman have children young out of wedlock and end up single mothers when the guy normally doesn’t stay.Many Blacks here have a herd mentality and try to shame you if you try to do better like you stated so not surprised by stares and tasteless comments. Right now, I’m focused on working towards my financial Independence but plan to find a compatible woman to date soon irregardless of race 🙂
It’s an epidemic here in Canada too; especially among households with Caribbean parents. I am very blessed to have grown up in a two parent home. I was raised never to have children out of wedlock.
I’m sure that you’ll be very successful in finding financial independence. When you achieve financial independence, you will experience a level of freedom that most people only dream of. Make sure that you find a woman with similar values and stay away from gold diggers.
Here’s a secret…White people may also be viewing your relationship in a negative light…not just blacks…but more about that later.
I agree with your assessment as I also have dated a variety of people no matter where they are from. What I don’t like however is this “white is right” mentality from some black and brown people around the world (look up ‘Colorisim’). They would either date among themselves or a white man instead of the black man who they view as the bottom. People that do this are ignorant and full of self-hatred, and I think there are the apex and the perfect example of pathetic. Some hate the color of their skin, in Asia in the middle east and in the caribbean bleaching creams are used. Look even in Jamaica a beautiful people some women engage in this stupid idiotic practice! “Dem a Bleeach Dem a Bleach they skin!” The advertisements media all showcase lighter skin countrymen! What the hell for? This is more multi-layered than bad looks because you choose to date and marry white men. People that only date one race because of misguided reasons. (Preferences and healthy romantic bonding no matter race is different.) I would not be surprised if secretly some whites would also be unhappy with your relationship, including white women as well. Remember it goes both ways. On this website for example there are people who hate white women dating black men. But with black and brown people there is an element of self hatred. When I have written this publicly I have had Indian women tell me yeah we value white skin over our darker skinned Indians and “my parents would rather me date a white man than a black man.” You see this with some Latinos and Asians. Asian Females especially Northern Asian seem to fancy White men sometimes because of this misguided ideal that they are better than themselves. This is gradually changing but its still under the surface and to deny this would mean either ignorance prevails or a person is willfully blinding themselves from reality. For some reason I see this behavior exhibited the least among the American Black population where the women tend to want Black males. But in other so called minority populations an element of “whiter is better” prevails. This can partially be explained by historical roots where Whites implemented their racial hierarchy placing themselves on the top of the totem poles with brown people slightly better than their darker counterparts all the way down to the black slave.
Hey you know what? What I wrote is a perfect example of how things that happened throughout hundreds of years ago persist today..
On another note I’m sorry but you can be self aware and extremely focused on self education and extreme discipline and improvement of your future, idiots who say you are acting “white”are idiots….Blacks throughout history have created Civilization and Schools and centers of learning we need to get back to that now!
I realize that whites may view my marriage negatively. However, the question I was answering specifically asked about the reactions of other blacks.
See this is the thing Black people are quick to join in on the criticism of black people to the audience of white people…although I agree that there are internal issues it seems only Black people are always asked as a whole to study their issues, or are lumped in as a single unit and stereotyped to their lowest degree….being conservative is not the issue is that so called conservatives seem to always do this the best on the internet and media outlets and that’s why they are disliked by the majority of their own people in the first place.
Most Black conservative’s are financially successful whereas the ones hating on them normally aren’t. Also, this article was written by a Black man. Why should he address the White community he isn’t part of? Black people need to criticize black people unless you think our community is thriving right now.
Yes I agree but why does he not also criticize black people in a black issues website or forum where everyone can sit down among themselves an address these issues thoughtfully. No one cares if a black person is conservative again its the WAY in which they criticize their own people in an unbalanced way usually to the glee of their white Republican counterparts who may have a few racist in their midst. Sure some Conservatives are doing well but some of them “go along to get along” its far easier than standing out. pragmatically it makes sense however. Michael Jordan avoided social and political issues and continues to rake in money while Muhammad Ali paid economically for his views on race and American Foreign policy..but you know what I have far more respect for Muhammad Ali…than an element of Black Republican “Yasser Bosses” any day of the week.
Who cared about the audience? Completely irrelevant. I say it like i see it, an alien from mars could be listening. Them listening mean nothing.
Yes I do care when that audience has an element of people who see all of us as backward anyway…also its not “blaming” its realizing that there are inequalities…while at the same time realizing there are internal issues as well…why can’t people figure out that it just might be a combination of factors but alas it seems to escape people mental grasp that a combination of factors are at play…the black conservatives who tap dance fo massa are just as bad as the extreme left who doesn’t acknowledge at all internal ills. But the yasser boss is sitll the most disliked by their own people.
It’s not fair to make every successful Black person a civil rights icon. Maybe he wanted to lead by example and perfect his craft instead of complaining. Which if every Black person did, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. We always need someone else to save us, we need to save ourselves on an individual basis instead of expecting every successul black person to save us
I was a part of organizations that do as you say. They always get trapped in playing victim. They stay stuck om issues and never find solutions
What are you talking about? lol Did it ever occur to you that its not “Blaming” its acknowledging inequalities whether it is race class or other factors just as many on this site complain about comparatively minor issues. Did it ever occur to you that people have people they respect and look up to, and they can channel that example in their own lives. This is not only athletes, but scientists who are black like Tyson from my city..who makes science cool…maybe that will uplift black kids to pursue the sciences. Perhaps Obama will make a young black kid believe he too can be President of the United States. In a website like this with mostly white conservatives you and the author are good black folks who “get it” because other views are more uncomfortable for many of them..some actually can see certain points. Also you can have self awareness and also work to improve yourself everyday and improve your intelligence and seek financial independence and strength… but this does not go with your narrative or many here as I can see by your post above.
Where are the Black Conservatives when Republicans bring up Barack Obama’s middle name to separate him as NOT American? Where are black conservatives when Republicans say he was not born in this country or he is a Muslim or an apologists (which basically means you say the truth about American History)? Where are the black conservatives with their counterparts say Obama is a “Communist” or create false narratives and perpetuate a false historical analysis? I rarely here them speak up. Actual criticism is welcome but false comparisons and jingoism is not intellectual but Black Conservatives remain silent or actually speak up with such joy and vigor in putting down their own people that they drown out the voices of honest fair black conservatives and paint them all in a bad light. Black Conservatives make decent points which I agree with but many of them are used as voice-boxes for distasteful unbalance views. Where are the black conservatives when white Republicans criminalize the victim even in the most one sided circumstances or make false equivalencies. For example No one supports actual criminals but people protest things like the Amadou Diallo shooting, shot at 41 times police get away with it…or Tamir Rice…you see you deviate the narrative..Blacks do not get away with crime whites are the only ones who have gotten away with murder,,,THAT is the reason for the protest…not “hate whitey” or “victim mentality” ironically you bring up O.J. the only real example of this situation the other way around. (that is if he actually killed Nicole). That’s why Black Conservatives are disliked by their own people and are seen as worse than white ignorants and racists.
Note if you bring up where are Black leaders during black on black violence or internal black issues makes sure you take your Republican talking point blinders off because blacks are marching and talking and trying to solve internal issues as well…even the President created the “My Brother’s Keeper initiative” however this doesn’t fit into the conservative narrative neither go figure…they still bring up internal issues like we don’t bring those issues up..but that’s what happens when you listen to Conservative Media types.
An organization that focuses on a combination of factors that reflect the complexities of actual society is best. Or if it matters to you start your own.
I actually plan to here in Chicago. I’m working on financial Independence to help teach fellow Black youth my age see other options. I’m dissatisfied with many current Black leaders in the mainstream whining about “Whitey”, I plan to get my boots on the ground.
That’s good I wish you well…however the whining about “whitey” is also a generalization…you don’t have to be a conservative to seek financial stability. Also financial empowerment is not the only aspect of the overall empowerment of the black community. It is important to note that being aware of Inequality is just being realistic and seeing reality i’m not sure why that is “whining” to you. If I point out Ethan Couch a rich white kid who killed four people and had a DUI with a previous record…and he serves no jail time…and I point out that a black kid or a poor kid would face the full punishment and hand of the law for a lesser crime…and that there is obvious inequality there..is that whining to you?
Anyway you use token word like “Mainstream” media…Conservative media basically is repackaged ignorance that was the predominant Media for most of our history. There are both sides to everything.
Also on another note just in case you have not noticed…every other week on this website there is a negative article about Black people or brown people by whites…this “Black” writer is just adding to the pattern…also the Conservatives make idiotic comparisons as well.
I never said don’t point out inequalities. Many Black people LIVE searching for inequalities instead of searching for success. I was a part of many Black groups here in Chicago and they almost all devolved to demonizing Jews. Not talking about solutions, blaming. How about teach Black people not to fall for the scams perpetuated by some of these Jews, like gangster rap, and how they can go about creating ways to control their own music on a national scale like the 2% of the population Jews do? We outnumber Jews, but we can’t do better? We are the largest consumers in America. We have money, we don’t pull it together. We blame Whitey and then go buy from their communities and don’t invest in ourselves. We would rather whine about someone treating us wrong then coming together and doing better.
The reason I put so much onus on ourselves, is in my opinion, we spend to much time using excuses. If we aren’t hard on ourselves, racist Whites will just laugh at us for falling for their traps. We need to be extremely hard on ourselves and seek what we can do for each other, not what someone else will do for me. I don’t talk about Whites because every Black person in America knows what Whites did to Blacks, but far fewer know any true solutions
Well the way you phrased this statement I have to say I have to agree with it, as I feel the same. Perhaps it’s the way we are phrasing our statements. However some other your other statements come off with a Conservative false comparison tone.
That is true but at the same time we should be well aware of our history and of our current situation…i think its a combination of approaches.
I really believe we are on the same page. We desperately want to help our community. I’m an independent, I don’t ascribe to either party but have values that could be matched with either party. I don’t mean to condemn or demean our people, we can just do so much better if we collectively come together
I agree, but we need more balance in the solution department though. So many of my Black teachers in the afro-centric school I attended knew all the problems, but a smaller number knew of viable solutions. It applies to many in our community as a whole.
Yeah but you have to admit look at this website every other week its an attack on Black or Brown people..while whining about minor things. Also in your previous posts you fail to make a balanced assessment… You have to understand its not “whining” its actual inequalities under the law that are still currently in place today. It is not about supporting “criminals.” but yet you also criminalize the victim…people here will make excuses for the killing of Tamir Rice with mental gymnastics but it would be different if it was a white kid. But Blacks such as yourself fall silent..that’s why you statement will not be well received by the majority of your own people, but you can feel good in a place like this with white conservatives.
But what about Eurocentric views?….why don’t you speak about that! Pseudo Science has a real and vicious history all the way up to modern times. Racial Heir-achy was implemented by Europeans in the first place!! And they distorted their role in history for centuries and when people counter it with a more complete history and outlook people complain ironically falling silent on my aforementioned statement. People criticize the Black Panthers but mysteriously fall silent on WHY they came about..people criticize the Haitian Revolution but fall silent on the hundreds of years of brutality under the french…you bring up OJ system and echo the sentiments of your own community on the inequality under the Justice System and make yourself a mockery in that there are hundreds of thousands of cases like OJ that negatively impacted the black community up until now! Do you see my perspective. That is not Whining that is knowing what’s going on! Also knowing this does not mean you magically stop working and trying to achieve financial independence…again people can work towards several goals at once.
Michael Brown was not a victim. I’ll give you that Trayvon is at least up for debate. I won’t defend someone who did wrong, period. My problem is, Black people kill White people as well but it isn’t made a media spectacle. Why should I fall for the media hype of these isolated event? There was a white college student from Australia who was out for a jog killed by Blacks because they were bored. That’s what the Black kids admitted, they killed him because it was something to do. You can find cases on both sides if you look hard enough which is why I choose to ignore BOTH sides. The media is a scam, they want to keep Blacks in slavery by having us defend thugs instead of aspiring to be better. Let’s protest self defense and destroy our communities through rioting, that solves nothing.
I haven’t seen that. The vast majority fall into a victim complex which means no striving for financial independence. I’m talking of the majority of our community not the minority. What is more beneficial knowledge, knowing every injustice Whites have committed against us or knowledge of how to be in control of your own destiny? It’s hard to do both at once. I never even think of “injustices” against me unless I’m talking to other Black people who want to have a pity party. When I talk to people of other races, they are talking of goals for future, not injustices of past. Jews experienced Holocaust and they are economic juggernauts here because they acknowledge but don’t dwell on it. Our community as a whole DWELLS on it, unless you see the over 70 % divorce rate and rampant criminal activity as the White Man’s fault.
Its so simple and you keep missing the point the most beneficial is knowledge of History so that you know events that led to current day situation…as well as financial empowerment and correction of internal negatives. Its very simple BOTH!
Also some Jews also “dwell” on the Holocaust I’m not sure if you are again “aware” of reality…in fact they use it to advance Zionist Foreign policy which is not Anti Jew but a government policy which other Jews are also against.
The 70 percent divorce rate is because we don’t have equal footing on the road to financial access under the current system. Again wages have stagnated and the wealth gap has increased while inflation is ever growing…yet Republicans OPENLY support big Corporations another thing Black Republicans eerily fall silent about. (Yes both parties are under the sway minus some progressive candidates of the left). When wages decrease you will see whites begin to suffer similar ailments of the black community.
Again you repeat A FALSE equivalency this is exactly what black conservatives do just like their white republican counterparts….The protests are because of a specific Dynamic….White perpetrator kills a black person and gets away with the crime throughout our history and in current society…this is NOT supporting true Criminals…its inequality under the Justice System. This is NOT the same thing as a Black criminal killing a white person and GOING TO JAIL JUSTICE SERVED end of story. Wow people cannot comprehend this lol. If you give me examples of blacks committing crimes against whites and getting away with it under a corrupt justice system then you have an equal comparison do you understand now? This is what i mean by conservative unequal comparisons and their black conservative puppets repeating the same misguided comparisons to deviate the conversation. And you use the token word “thug” too what a shame, what a shame..same tactic to criminalize the victim…victim gets killed “oh he smoked a joint 5 years ago, yeah he’s a thug he deserved to get shot.” Sometimes I think all of you go to conservative school and have a token phrasebook you read from. You lose credibility with that. Nothing worse than a black person using token words like that.
I’m aware that we had the highest marriage rate before Lyndon B. Johnson decided to create a permanent class of democratic voters through the welfare act. You demonize Republicans when Democrats had the biggest hand in the Black plight we experience today. Wealth gap is only growing because WE DON”T INVEST IN OURSELVES. No one is stopping us from doing that. Keep blaming the Black Republicans who actually have real viable ideas to help than the welfare democrats. If Blacks listen to Republicans who say to invest in ourselves, then big corporations don’t matter. Keep blaming Whites. We are 14% of population but can’t do better than 2% population Jews? You can blame everyone else if you want, I blame us.
You are creating false equivalency. I clearly stated that Ferguson was SELF-DEFENSE. He punched a police officer and expected a hug? Ok. I mentioned the Australian runner cause he was killed for no reason and there was NO HOOPLA in Media. Keep on blaming Whites for everything, will get Black people no where. Black people love playing the victim, keep saying woe is me. Black people would rather march for a thug than do anything of any importance. Blacks also destroyed much of ferguson for NO reason! Yeh that is solving problems, what a joke
No I am not you are….when you fail to mention the exact reasons WHY the protests occurred in the first place. Don’t give the stupid moron buzzwords..like “Woe is me” and “victim mentality” that your ignorant white counterparts spew. It is NOT PLAYING THE VICTIM. Zimmerman had no reason to approach Travyon in the first place..he should have followed the advice of the operator and let the police handle the situation in the FIRST PLACE! We wouldn’t be having this conversation in the first place. Is that simple enough for your brain to comprehend? or is it too difficult? What came before the entire confrontation the advice NOT TO APPROACH THE KID. Stay in your vehicle and meet the police at another location for questioning. Simple as that. Black conservative are the joke and disliked by most of their people. Go along to get along. Also you can be financially successful as well and hardworking….without having an ignorant one sided conservative view. Again you use the token term “thug” you use the same stupid buzzwords that these ignorant whites use very pathetic and sad…whats next Tamir Rice is a “thug” also yet he’s the one who is dead and can’t defend himself. People like Larry Elder are a complete joke, yasser bosses lol.
First of all it is not “demonizing” Republicans I agree both parties are bought by Big Banks and Corporations which Republicans OPENLY support I like progressives that attack Big Corporate corruption not the mainstream Democratic candidates. Republicans love to criticize “welfare abusers” and try to paint blacks and Latinos as the main users and abusers. Fact is Whites have the bulk raw numbers…and percentage wise are near or at the top while Latinos for example PERCENTAGE wise are less than half the rate as whites. Yes there is an element of Blacks that don’t invest in themselves and there are blacks who do..and not all of them subscribe to the Republican Party. Again like I previously stated an element of the Republican party uses jingoistic and xenophobic arguments and many Black Republicans keep their mouth shut and that’s why they are disliked as Yasser bossing negroes by their own community…and believe me it’s not because they are “successful”…unlike lets say Colin Powell..a Black Republican who is respected and doesn’t use ignorant buzzwords you use like “Thug” and false equivalencies like you used in your other statement. When people open their mouths and say things like “Blacks would rather march for a Thug” they lose credibility cause I know their analysis is misguided and unbalanced.
You stated: that the “Wealth gap is only growing because WE DON”T INVEST IN OURSELVES.” You and Bercel actually believe that?…that is the most idiotic thing I have heard or read. First of all NO ONE IS DISAGREEING THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN OURSELVES! How many times do I have to repeat that?..Because we disagree and I am aware of reality I somehow don’t want us to invest in ourselves? First of all what cause the Great Recession was the Big Banks and companies screwing around with derivatives…Wall-street and Big Banks caused the Great Depression as well. But you don’t talk about the bigger problem of Corporate Welfare, you only talk about the comparatively smaller problem of individuals which I also agree is a problem by the way. Anyway keep coming here focusing all the energy on “negatives” of your own community while parroting unequal comparisons and idiotic conservative buzzwords and phrases. Hey even white racists love it!
And that’s YOUR problem you “BLAME US” I Blame us partially, I also blame external forces. Do not simplify what I say this is not conservative media and you are not discussing someone who bends to your language phrasing.
False equivalency for example would be this idiotic statement …
1. “When a white person kills a black person its a big deal, but when a black person kills a white person nobody cares?”
False equivalency: When a White person has killed black people in this country he has literally gotten away with murder, there are also modern day situations where he might get a minor penalty in certain situations. Black people ALWAYS face maximum punishment for the crimes they commit or don’t commit. This is call inequality under the Law! It can be racial or a class issue. This is why people of various races came out in the predominantly peaceful protests, while at the same time denouncing the negative elements. What people like you do by stating that Blacks like to come out to protest for a “thug” is deviate from THE TRUE reasons for the protests…while using stupid buzzwords like “thug” to paint the victim negatively even though they are dead. Even in heinous situations like Tamir Rice your counterparts criminalize this victim and use “thug” to paint your own people in a bad light which you go ahead and use yourself…what a disgraceful act!! Meanwhile the entire situation with Zimmerman could have been avoided in the first place if he would’ve followed instructions AND NOT APPROACHED TRAYVON IN THE FIRST PLACE. Do you understand the sequence of events? Also they criminalized Trayvon and use words like “thug” meanwhile you don’t talk about the clear arrest record Zimmerman has that I can post here with a simple google click…going back to I believe last month March 2015 some of them involving weapons, one before the Trayvon incident where he assaulted a plain-clothed cop..yet Trayvon is a “thug for smoking a joint which many white kids do as well as harder drugs…but i’m not judging it is they who judge and you play along. Good going!
2. The incident with the Black guy who killed the Australian athlete for no reason…everyone who is sane black or white will not support that criminal. Question for you will the system set this criminal free or give him a minor penalty or paint the victim in a bad light…even if the situation was a little more layered? The answer is NO The Black criminal always faces the full extent of JUSTICE! That is the difference. A Black person who is a true criminal who commits a crime will not motivate a protest if the public knows the situation.
3. Protests usually have a violent element that has been also denounced by the majority of protesters but Conservative media, including the token blacks LOVE to focus on the looters which we all agree are bad…and use the little token words you picked up from your counterparts like “thug.” The same decriminalization was also perpetrated against a Crawford a Black victim shot and killed by police in Ohio for carrying a air gun. They initially said he was waving it and being threatening but their historical lies fall apart because of video footage showing he did not point it at anyone and was shot dead by police. Again silence from most so called Black Conservatives what a disgrace. They then show video of the victim’s girlfriend where the detective was trying to find anything on Crawford…and I bet you if he even only smoked a joint that would’ve been enough for many “conservatives” to use your little stupid “thug” word against the victim…she was not informed he was dead until i believe two hours after the interview was completed.
4. You have an equivalent argument when Black criminals kill or hurt white people and the system gives them a break..or historically black people get away with killing whites. Yet you keep reverting back to uhhhh “well when blacks kill whites there’s no outcry?” BECAUSE THE BLACK GUY GOES TO JAIL ALL THE TIME!! Again this is called critical thinking not making false equivalencies..and it’s not “whining” its being AWARE of reality! Even in Ferguson the Justice Department revealed that Ferguson Police unfairly targets Black people…yet that part of the story most Black Republicans just yessa boss and stay silent like good lil ol’ boys. By the way when the ex Sheriff killed the young white male in the movie theater because he felt “offended” Black people also voiced their opinions against that incident but at the end of the day Justice was served.
5. Black Conservatives like Colin Powell are RESPECTED because they don’t use misguided and simplistic comparisons like you and an element of the Republican party uses and they publicly recognize the idiotic shifting and xenophobia of part of their party.
6. This is not the same Republican Party of Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt, and even Teddy Roosevelt who many blacks and I support because of his “Square Deal” and his corporate regulations still managed to isolate blacks when an incident in Texas (Brownsville Affair) where a white person was killed and a black infantryman was falsely blamed making Teddy Dishonorably Discharge the ENTIRE 167 Regiment when they never did anything. Ironically Nixon in the 1970’s finally reversed this. You see its economic policies and fairness that motivates people. Also like I said many Black Conservatives don’t address the element of their party that engages in ignorant statements about the very people that the Black Republicans belong too…and sometimes the Black Conservatives join in with more “vigor.” Talk about disgraceful. People in this website get mad at white “liberals” and they never even had our historical and current experiences which makes the entire situation even more ironic.
7. Finally Black Conservatives don’t have a monopoly on success…many of us work extremely hard while educating ourselves as well as seeking financial independence and success. Many of us putting in extreme hours day to day while also working on long term goals…but also realizing that corporate corruption which cause the Great Recession in the first place is just as important as the “welfare Queen” Conservatives like to focus on..which Black Republicans shamefully echo and the element of White Welfare abuse which ironically falls silent from Black Conservatives and other Conservatives.
8. Fair Criticism is important and welcome but an element of the Tea Party labels Obama as the “other” “Non American” “Muslim” “Foreigner” an “Apologist” when he is just being truthful about our history, or stating his middle name “Hussein” to invoke fear, Islamophobia, and Xenophobia for the sizable portion of ignorant people that subscribe to Conservative media…which includes people who look like you and Black Conservatives..yet most of Black Conservatives fall SILENT as well. Again shameful. People like Colin Powell at least address their ignorance like I would address my cohorts ignorance. Keep thinking its hate because of Black Republican “success” its actually because of the hypocrisy and staying silent or echoing the ignorant statements expressed about your very own community. That’s the pathetic part of the entire thing, not that you have conservative “views” anyway you got your audience in places like this website…I wonder what your contribution will be when a racist idiot says something idiotic about American Black people or Blacks in general. Anyway go get your slice of the pie!
I’ll tell you how to breed a better negro. You have to liquidate all the losers and bottom feeders from the race so that only the top 5% get to breed. Then you will see an improvement. And try to import some of those skinny Masai females to breed with or you’ll only have 300 lb gorillas with gigantic butts for breeding.
You should have stayed awake in 4th grade when % and fractions were taught.There are equal raw numbers of whites and blacks on benefits but whites are 80% of the pop. and blacks 12% which means that for every black you would need 6x the whites just to make it in equal proportions.
“Latinos” (whatever that means) are mostly illegals so they can’t legally get any benefits hence their lower numbers,but they still manage to get perks.And you believe that a foreigner can just walk into a country and manage to get benefits paid for by the citizens and meant to go to the citizens? There’s only so much money to go around and foreigners don’t deserve any of it.And btw, those few million Jews from the former USSR are gaming the system too.
” Republicans love to criticize “welfare abusers”
Then why was it Clinton who did welfare reform where baby mamas had to get jobs once the kid was a certain age? If you think that republicans are the welfare cutters then you have drank the grape Kool-aid and been brainwashed by the media.Obama doesn’t give a rat’s arse about lower class negroes and just uses them for their vote with empty promises and con jobs.He’ll promise the illegals too because he’s got your vote and now needs theirs for the future democrat party.And stop calling negroes Uncle Tom’s ( I bet you never even read the book) because they are republicans because they are the smarter more accomplished ones.And why do negroes have to be part of any ‘community’ anymore than whites are? What did your ‘community’ ever do for you aside from holding you back with their stupidity and making you look like arseholes? A lot of people use Thug regardless of the race so stop being an emotional oversensitve female pussy.And stop worrying about someone saying nigger because it’s just a dumb word and in fact I have never heard in my life any white using it, mostly because it’s rude and lower class.You would think that a white who used the word was worse than a murderer in today’s insane world. And even if it may be a small number who march when some thug gets killed, the general impression that the media portrays is that it’s a large number so perhaps you should take that up with the media and complain if it’s not true.Whites cannot take your hand like a child and do this for you. They have lives they have to contend with as well. You have to do it yourselves.
Stop with this Yassir boss bullshit and go along to get along because I’m sure that would include most whites too when dealing with their superiors and bosses.
And btw, Cassius Clay got into trouble because he didn’t want to be drafted (I don’t blame him) He wanted to be exempt because he said he was a Muslim minister which at the time 50 years ago just sounded like some bullshit, like me claiming to be a priest to get out of the draft. Him criticising the government wasn’t it because there were millions doing the same thing.
That’s true. Why should he have the weight of all the problems and waste his money. And stop with this ‘community’ nonsense because none of those people did anything for a successful person and may have even impeded him and hoped he’d fail. You don’t owe anyone anything just because you’re the same race.They need to look out for themselves and do the things to improve their own lives.If you listen to white people who were poor and made something of themselves they don’t give a damn about the people in their ‘hood who never did anything for them so why do you owe anything to the community at large most of whom are just strangers to you? If a person really did do something to assist you that’s one person not everyone.
Regardless (irregardless is not a word)And forget the stupid herd mentality and just eliminate them from your world. They never did anything for you so fuck ’em. And as far as rachet negro females, they’ve killed (directly or indirectly)or had imprisoned more men than the cops.The nasty bitches have had black men imprisoned and really went after them in court for support even when they knew the guy had no money to pay just out of pure hatred. You know why I say pure hatred? They could get benefits and let’s say they get X. If the guy had money for child support their benefits would be cut and they’d still get the same amount because welfare would cut them for the sum paid by the man. Going after this guy for money he doesn’t have is sort of meaningless because they would get the full benefits but they still do it out of spite and he ends up in jail and she then gets the full benefits from the State just not split between the baby daddy and the State (all from the state now) he’s in jail for lack of support and you can’t get the money from him now anyway. She can’t lose and he suffers in jail and that’s just plain meanness and revenge even though she lost nothing.
You are missing the point I know what I am talking about its not simply dealing with your superiors and bosses…what I am talking about is using unequal comparisons when focusing only on the negatives of a person’s own community to appease a certain crowd. It is not “bullshit” I think what those people are doing is “Bullshit” understand? Its not just an arbitrary employee and employer relationship, that’s not what I meant.
And there were millions criticizing the draft but only the privileged were able to bullshit their way out of it without suffering repercussions many of them ironically are the same war-hawks of today. Re-analyze what I wrote.
Welfare Usage as of 2015
Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %
This is percentage like I stated prior..raw numbers obviously Whites overwhelmingly use Welfare. I state this because Right Wing media perpetuates a false narrative…also I personally think welfare if only used temporarily and monitored to avoid abuse, is great for society. Also note how blacks tend to be poorer than their white counterparts and also experience a certain level of inequality compared to their counterparts, yet still manage. Moving along.
Did you even read what I wrote?..I stayed awake in 4th grade math class but judging by your response you didn’t stay awake in remedial reading comprehension. I specifically noted “Raw” numbers and stated that whites are near or have been at the top. I also noted “Percentages” which I would think you would understand takes into account population size. Even with the population into account Latinos are far below Whites in Welfare usage Taking into account their population sizes. Moving along you falsely stated that:
“”Latinos” (whatever that means) are mostly illegals so they can’t legally get any benefits hence their lower numbers,but they still manage to get perks.”
Are you really going to assume most Latinos are “illegal” (because that is easily false) or did you mean most Illegals are Latinos…make sure you are careful with your sentence structure. Also I quoted “welfare abusers” because that is what Conservatives shift the entire conversation to…obviously almost everyone including myself dislike “welfare abusers..and I am for anyone who fixes loopholes and people who take advantage no matter their race. Also corporations LOVE Illegals because they can make more money and not worry about Laws and Labor Protection Laws domestically and in foreign countries. And companies have pushed the Government or have made side deals to facilitate the arrival of Illegals to work long hours for little pay without fear of unionizing…often employing divide and conquer among the various immigrant communities for fear that they would unite despite their cultural differences.
Also on the Obama comment about him not giving a rat’s ass about the poor…well I can say the same about poor whites and Republicans. You see Conservative media states ignorant things like Obama the communist (nothing is further from the truth), Obama the Muslim (he says he is a Christian and even if he was a Muslim so what), Obama is a foreigner (He was born in the United States) and other ignorant statements to appeal to a segment of poor whites/and overall conservative idiots who are ignorant about Geo-politics and other racial communities and who ironically use Welfare and government aid themselves. And judging by raw numbers as well as percentages they make up a large portion of welfare users.
Also you stated I called certain Black people “Uncle Toms” again you must have slept through reading comprehension… where did I use that specific phrase? I purposefully did not use that term to avoid the entire “Did you read Uncle Tom’s Cabin, and the term does not fit the character of Tom in the first place” idiotic response. First of all I understand that and second of all even if I did use the term It’s about associating it to its common modern meaning in the first place. Also not all Black Republicans are appeasers in the first place, I simply stated that there were those who were. (And yeah I did read the book by the way…you like to assume a lot don’t ya?)
On your comment about my “go along to get along” statement it was not meant for everyday Employee and Employer relationship obviously we all have a degree of cooperation in our work lives that is not what I meant. What I meant are certain people who use unequal comparisons like the examples I gave previously to paint their own community a certain way. These people are used by the larger political cohort to “legitimize” their views of a particular community they don’t belong too! So it is ok obviously to criticize your community but don’t expect someone to sit there and not address their bullshit. On another note yeah you have to protect your family and yourself first and improve your life..I agree but that’s not entirely what Im talking about. I’m talking about painting in a negative an unbalanced way a community in which you belong to. That is the issue.
Also a word in itself is meaningless but its the motivations behind the usage to steer public opinion especially an ignorant public who truly drinks the “coolaid” I don’t because I think very critically and carefully. Thug is derived from “Thuggee” a band of Indians who robbed and killed and whom the British Colonial Government aggressive pursued and destroyed, its not the usage of the word its the motivations behind it. It is used to criminalize the victim even in the worst circumstances and SIMPLIFY a layered situation. That is what I was addressing in the first place. This is a tactic to paint a kid who might have smoked a joint or two into a “Thug” meanwhile the person who killed the victim is current walking around with a REAL criminal and arrest record, which is the true definition of hypocrisy.
Also the Conservative Media is basically stating the same ignorant views that have been used for centuries repackaged, even before the United States were created…but yet many people feel angered at the “Mainstream Media” which has shared an opposing viewpoint for only the last few decades. Funny that I can say that this is what true “female Bitching” (or your reply) is in the first place. Ironically even the “P.C. Media (which at times I also disagree with) has punished non whites as well. Note how parts of your reply were already addressed in my previous statement to begin with (for example the Raw numbers vs Percentage point). The reason I brought welfare up is not because I disagree with the idea of the program but because Conservative Media pushes the “Welfare Queen” concept and the non-white’s welfare usage concept which you ignorantly repeat, again you guys must have a dictionary of ignorant phrases and words.
And who the hell is looking for the “whites” to hold my hand or our communities hand…as a matter of fact the hardest workers on a daily basis I have seen were in my currently and historically and those abusing the system are shamed by our own community by the way. It has always been that way..the “lazy Black” thing was being pushed around during slavery when the average black man would outwork the average white man in the field…Hypocritical…just like calling Natives “Savages” while Savagely killing and taking their land. Don’t give me that bullshit lol. Anyway I actually don’t have a problem with anyone I respect anyone who respects me no matter the race, religion, sex etc.
This is what I call setting it straight and I only respond when an idiot opens his or her “bitching” mouth and needs to be smacked with reality.
Welfare numbers 2015 and PERCENTAGES so you don’t “bitch” Notice how Blacks and non whites are poor or usually have a worse start but still don’t overwhelm the numbers. Also as I stated originally, Latinos are less than HALF the rate of Whites and this is by PERCENTAGE NOT RAW NUMBERS. Have to capitalize so you won’t get confused. Asians are doing rather well given their circumstances I note as well. In terms of RAW numbers obviously Whites take the price by far…but that’s besides the point. Again I refer to these percentages. Class Dismissed!
Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %
http://breakingbrown.com/2014/03/the-real-welfare-queen-is-uneducated-single-and-white/
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,156084,00.html
First of all he is talking about his views and how they may be the best path for his “community” in the overall arch of the entire conversation we have had, so in this context yes we are also talking about the collective. Second of all I also agree with the individualistic approach to life and making it on your own and taking care of your family no one here is looking for a “handout” that’s not the point. Its also not “victim mentality” etc….Its about acknowledging their are external factors while at the SAME TIME working to improve yourself individually..its basically about being smart, aware, and working as hard as you can everyday. This equating being self aware of everyday life to “not trying” and “not investing in oneself” is simply not the point and is another stereotype and is also a tactic to deviate from the true aspects of the conversation in question. I never stated that we “need someone to save us” I simply stated that Ali inspired many. Just like a scientist can help inspire you to study hard and perhaps become a scientist yourself. This is the thing these simple phrases don’t work in this conversation, neither does shifting.
you are bitching about hypergamy.
I’m just saying the truth and giving another angle.
do you know what hypergamy is?
“Black people need to criticize black people unless you think our community is thriving right now.”
Don’t go towards whites for help, over stand your history. “Conservative Black’s” in today’s climate are 99.5% house negros without an original thought in their mind.
“We always need someone else to save us”
Omg the ignorance…
You’re trying to argue with a brainwashed negropean
Throughly enjoyed reading everything you’ve had to say. Interesting to see things from your perspective: Well spoken, educated, unbiased and uncorrupted although you had all odds against you.
You seem like an interesting young man.
Do you have a platform where you express yourself? I would love to read your biography and thoughts about this issue.
Hope you reply!
Thank you for the kind words! I have actually been thinking about writing a blog. I’ve actually been studying different forms of passive income recently, including blog writing and book writing. Out of curiosity, what else would you be interested in hearing about in addition to my thoughts on subjects of race?
Being anything other than a human being is a choice. The whole ghetto hood thing was created by white people and black people as a whole in this country now represent the fears of white people. I do not hate my brothers and sisters, I hate this system, which was created by white people *cough cough*
Actually the whole Ghetto was really created in Nazi Germany and just about all of Europe where they would isolate the Jews into slum cities and they referred to those slums as Ghettos!
Lol! Ghettos originated in Venice in the early 16th century.
Try harder next time.
I don’t have to try harder the ghettos of Venice Italy in the 16th century all had Jews in them!
The white people, and uncle ruckus house negros in this threat are clueless smh
Its a nasty circle many men who use chivalry in general in this society are not given an actual opportunity in the first place. Also Love is blind but I’m also very careful of Black women or women of color who only seem to date or want to marry a white man…sometimes there are underlying issues. Of course I’m not saying that is your case but like I wrote in other posts brown and black people around the world have a segment of “white is right” portrayed in the country’s media. This happens in India, Asian women seem to choose white men no matter how idiotic or sleazy they are over their own men etc. You see it in tv bleaching crimes and the such. I am careful around such people, for they at times lump all the negatives on their own people while turning a blind eye to the negatives of the race they see as “higher than themselves..” For example I met a beautiful Asian woman with dark skin and I stated how beautiful her skin tone was to which she replied “I don’t like it I wish it was lighter.” then she proceeds to sit next to a redneck without the best attributes. Now nothing against rednecks but the pattern is telling.
In general however love is love and there are also preferences which are healthy and different than what I wrote about.
There are always underlying reasons for dating preferences.
I agree that we live in a world where “white is right” and that’s sad.
My choices were based purely on my personal experiences. I go where I find myself being loved and accepted. Only black men have told me that I am “too dark” for them, which is another example of what you were speaking of in your last post.
I did mention the way many white men fetishize black women instead of seeing as as real people. Any black woman who chooses to date outside of her race needs to be aware of that tendency.
Yes Dating “Preferences” are perfectly ok however certain underlying reasons which I speak about is the problem. I read your post however in an article by a black male detailing the negatives of his own community to an audience that has an element of racist whites…while certain black commentators also chime in is also a good place for me to use comparative analysis. Also its noteworthy that we never discuss the negatives of the white community and what ails them as a people.
Why is it that when black men choose white women, the black community doesn’t give them a hard time? Let a black woman choose a white man and suddenly she is wrong and sympathizing with white racists.
I don’t agree that blacks do not discuss what is wrong with whites. If anything, I notice that too many blacks blame whites for not succeeding in life.
Despite racism being a barrier, it IS more than possible for blacks to rise above oppression. Unfortunately, many of us embrace the negative stereotypes and condemn blacks who won’t entertain that nonsense.
“Why is it that when black men choose white women, the black community doesn’t give them a hard time? ”
That’s a lie–you damn well know black women roll their eyes and have an attitude when it comes to that matter–so seriously please stop this nonsense
Totally agree that it is more socially acceptable for Black male/White female than the opposite. I have known multiple Black families personally who accept their son’s White girlfriend but will not want their daughter dating White. Black people can be so shallow that if they see you with another race, you automatically hate your own race.What a joke. People need to get a life and worry about their own personal relationships instead of judging someone else when they don’t know a god damn thing about the people they are judging.
You can blame Hollywood for making white girls more desirable.
Who said that about you..I said that there is an Element of that behavior again reading comprehension. Again let me stress for you you can do both!! Yes there is an underlying systematic system of prejudice still in place, (although in varying degrees and in certain aspects it has improved) regarding class and race…this is just being AWARE. You can be aware and still work hard and study and strive for your goals. Why is it so hard for people to understand that concept?
Many whites also exhibit those behaviors as well I have lived and worked with all races and have seen varying behaviors from all races. The thing that raises eyebrows is when a person of a given race exclusively dates people of another race because of misguided reasons. That is what I’m talking about…understand?
why would I blame Hollywood for that? White men find their white women more desirable, why should anyone be mad about that?
Making negative comments about the reading comprehension level of those who disagree with you isn’t the best way to convey your points. You may want to learn how to write a sentence and paragraph properly before you speak of the literacy of others.
If more than one person is having a hard time understanding your beliefs, it is likely that you are not doing a good job of expressing them.
You cannot assume that everyone who dates outside of her race is doing so for misguided reasons. Your automatic wariness of black women who date non black men shows that you have some preconceived negative beliefs about us.
In any case, I don’t see how having a discussion about race relations with you is productive. You have jumped to some ridiculous conclusions in order to justify your points-such as blacks who are honest about the negative aspects of our community are “tap dancing to massa”. Being aware of inequalities doesn’t have to include constantly using them as excuses. Finally, the rants about conservative media just make you look combative and ignorant.
Wow! lol I’m not assuming everyone who dates outside of their race is doing so for “misguided reasons” I challenge you to quote me on that! I actually said that there is an element in that dynamic. If you can read closely and quote me on your assumption we can move forward. Also if you haven’t noticed this website has a large amount of Conservative White people…obviously your opinions and criticism of your own community valid or invalid would generate more agreements than my comments no matter how factual mine are, but I’m not sure you noticed or aware of your surroundings neither. In other spheres things would be more balanced as opposed to a forum with a large number of White Conservative males and a small but vocal element of white racists…but if it makes you feel better to think that its because “more than one person is having a hard time understanding…” my beliefs, then you can assume that as well. Just like I can assume that if you were to bring up feminist issues on this forum and debate someone that “more than one person is having a hard time understanding your beliefs,” as well.
Again I stated that I do understand there are negative elements and I do speak against them as well, however I find it ironic how we are always called to answer for the negatives in our community and debate among ourselves…but we never have conversations about the white people as a whole because of the present day negative aspects of their community. We may talk about the factual history of some of their people or inequality in the Justice System but it never devolves into a conversation about the ills of White people at least in most private and public circles. My points are not ignorant but are far more balanced than the original author’s writing and most of the comments in response just in case you have not noticed and I offer comparisons between the different communities.
I agree but White’s do the same thing not just “Black People.”
Your points are incoherent. Also white people are required to attend indoctrination centres where they are taught misleading history and to hate their own race. This pattern is present in every TV program, movie, most interest media, as well as most other forms of media for the last 60 years and I have yet to see a single black person aknoledge the tremendous and suicidally stupid sacrifice of replacing our religion with negro failure. No amount of fetishization is enough for black people. Asains have enough diginity not to wallow in that puke. You don’t.
“Also white people are required to attend indoctrination centres where they are taught misleading history and to hate their own race. ”
Examples?
“This pattern is present in every TV program, movie, most interest media, as well as most other forms of media for the last 60 years”
Examples?
Your response is ironic because for most of our history we have been taught whitewashed history in the first place, we have been submitted to Anglo perceptions of beauty and have been indoctrinated to follow a False White God…and now just recently we are viewing this false history more critically and they are teaching a more balanced history. (And have NOT put whites down by the way). This is not to “hate their own race” but a more honest way to view history replacing the original lies. In comparison the “grievances” you mentioned are very minor and ironic (If they even exist!). So go cry me a river.
Also Asians do complain about issues related to their communities in relation to greater American Society. Some of their grievances, I actually agree with.
Im mostly white…according to my wife, I am NEVER right. Just saying.
Negro bedwench
Only a tiny sliver of Asian women will even date a white guy. I met my Asian wife by going to Asia, where, to my surprise, almost all women were Asian. Then the fact that maybe only 3 to 5% of the women were willing to date white men made little difference because that tiny sliver still constituted a lot more women than there were white guys available.
That is true of all men as considered by all women.
My sisters” favorite “joke” is:
Q. If a man is walking alone in the woods and says something where no one can hear him, is he still wrong?
A. Of course he is.
Damn just one experience Huh? Well good for you because I date white women. And I agree that white American women have treated me better than african American women, when comparing the two.
There have been several terrible experiences. I just chose to mention one of them.
As for dating white women, I always say that people should date whomever treats them well regardless of race. More power to you.
youve never dated a white woman in your life.
youve dated biologically white social and cutlural DOGSHIT. keep your hate to yoruself because it IS HATE when you refuse to make the distinction between dogshit and entire racial community.
It is you perverted white boys who get the trashy white women. Just watch Jeremy Kyle show. Us decent, beautiful, educated, professional white women are marrying good, educated, professional black men and you slimy goat humping freaks cannot do nothing about it.
It is funny that you say that. Through my dating years The best I have ever been treated was by a black woman. To bad I was young and immature in those days 🙁 They dont want anything different than any other woman. A little respect, acknowledgement and compassion. By better you must mean more obedient.
amen.
Says the woman with no profile photo….Probably working at McDonalds and 500 lbs. Yeah that is totally successful.
I am a medical professional with several degrees and work in clinical research, hospitals and clinics. What do you do for living you sick racist inbred freak.
dom suda and bercel kyber are you saying that all white people are better than you because I don’t believe that. what do you guys look like because not going to lie its hard out here it your ugly. which what sounds like the problem you two were made for each other but don’t want the other because there black that is really fucking funny. Thanks for making black people look stupid right there, I wish the black community would start kicking people like you and the ghetto ones out. P.S those statements didn’t make white people like you even more.
He’s probably right. You probably do work at McDonalds. “Us decent, beautiful, educated, professional white women”… blah, blah, blah, I’ll bet you have a yacht and a toilet made out of gold too, right? The thing is, you can say you are a medical professional all you want but I don’t believe you, and there is no way you can prove it. It’s funny too because you called the other guy a racist when his comment was not remotely racist. You are just stupid. Which supports my belief that you are not a medical professional, but a Honey Boo Boo-esque skank who loves to play pretend on the internet. Now go back to your bug infested trailer, and we’ll see you on the next Jerry Springer episode.
Why don’t you bet your life on what you just said. Bet your pathetic life that I am a trashy white woman with low class job if you believe it so much. I am a educated, white lady with professional medical job. You must be a racist black female spreading stereotypes as usual to make yourself feel better. Why it is so difficult for you to accept that white educated, professional women like me love and marry good, quality black men? One and only occasion I would consider appearing on Jerry Springer show is as an medical professional helping lowlife, racist, inbred socially deviant creatures like you. You clearly admit that you are a trash as you watch idiotic show like that. I live in our own bought house. What about you? Trailer, project?
Yes, Ms. Mudshark… we all know how American society is just teeming with “good, educated, professional black men.” LOL.
STFU and get out of here, missy. What are you even doing on an alpha male website?
It has been my experience that people who date or mate outside of their own race are either trying to make a social statement, or have low self-esteem.
And you are about as much a “medical professional with several degrees” as I am.
Keep your inbred racist hole shut. Be ashamed of yourself you sad product of incest.
u guys are all getting off topic n acting ghetto. good debate guys. I can see youre very educated people…
I don’t think hes trying to get white people to like him. I have seen and have the same beliefs. everyone is entitled to their opinion n u don’t need to agree with it but we do need to treat each other with respect and try to say our opinions with manor
The statistics disprove what you say, most people marry within their race and the black with white marriages are negligible, infact almost non existent. White with Hispanic marriages are significant however.
LOL. Listen to the childish name calling. One is just as bad as the other. LOLOL
“cannot do nothing” is a double negative.
yes, you are certainly educated by the u.s. school system.
A little grammar lesson to counter your ignorance… cannot do nothing means can do something.
Cannot do nothing about it:” Yes, you are an educated professional! Lying sack of shit!
I f you were an educated medical professional, you would have a much better command of grammar!
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Not necessarily. Have you ever gone to a hospital and seen the admitting staff?
Please, please, go somewhere else in the world. If you think American women are acceptable (black or white makes no difference), then you have not traveled enough to form an opinion.
And don’t want to. I gave up on American women, of every color, long ago. I have no dog in the fight about anyone unfortunate enough to marry you.
I am white and married Asian. I am not low self-esteem. The only statement I am consistently making is that women of the west are so culturally contaminated that a wise man would have nothing to do with them.
As stated above, I married a half black Hispanic. Yes, that demographic is increasing, as Hispanics are approaching 25% of the population, and growing. Blacks have been a stagnant 10-12% of the population for over the past 60 years.
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She may be a fat mudwhale, with bottle blond hair.
Daddy issues, BBW or just plain FUGLY
Your parents must be so proud.
I suppose they can’t do anything about it, with you being so educated! 😀
Listen caramel cream if you look anything like the dude from criminal minds please move to Spain. Ciao!
Black women are desperate they will do anything. we white women have self-respect we will not do shit for a misogynist white pifg-black women are so stupid and jealous of white women’s beauty and intelligence. and the fact we steal their delicious chocolate cream men. My boyfriend is gorgeous like Alfred Enoch on HTGAWM yummy I love biracial men and black men. Why is it that white American men have such small dicks they can’t satisfy?
You doth protest too much. Jealousy is seething out of your stupid mouth. Intelligent women date chocolate cream. White women who date crap like you are pieces of shit. Like your wife if you have one locked in your basement you filthy piece of shit.
Exactly. Black females are so ghetto even though they try so hard to be educated and white, it is an impossibility for them-look at Beyoncé-hahahaha!
You have no source cited to back up this claim. actually, in Europe and the United States white women are marrying beautiful black men in droves. They are so handsome and well-built. American men are the ugliest men and stupidest on the planet; you are also poorly endowed. HAHAHA! white American men have the smallest dicks after Asians. This is what makes them such assholes-they cannot compete with real men; take into consideration their low Iqs and general odious nature-entitled and arrogant though incredibly stupid and it is no wonder intelligent white women have left them to die alone.
Hey swamp man are you part of the duck dynasty crew? You sound like it. Go back to the bayou you crawled out of. You piece of misogynist shit.
You are a nutjob. You just said you married a bi-racial black person now you are married to an Asian? Wtf-get out of here troll!
It is. There are many well-educated black men; just not in the swamps of Georgia where you come from.
You sick fuck-you are an inbred hillbilly asshole.
and blond hair pales in beauty compared with raven.
an unhappy impotent little man. Get off this forum!
What a brood mare, I have seen pigs with more self respect.
I’m WAY north of Georgia, but thanks for your input, chimpie. You deserve a nice banana as a reward.
Awww…. did I hurt your feelz again, chimpie? I have more than earned my right to voice my opinions. What have you sacrificed for your country, faggot?
Yep. Black physicists, engineers, and surgeons ABOUND.
I personally like men of all races so long as they hold the same ideologies and culture as me, mainly working/middle class culture.
You do. Think about it.
My point is that making responsible decisions and speaking properly should not be viewed as characteristics that only whites can have. I am not less black just because I do not fit stereotypes.
I don’t think you got my point. My point was that you live a better life and probably make more money than those idiots, so, in turn, you actually do “have a dollar” for every time they say such things, at least in comparison to them.
Also, I take issue with your saying “I am not less black just because I do not fit stereotypes.” If “black” as an identity is wrapped up in such stereotypes, you should strive to be anything but “black”. Unfortunately, I do think “black” is wrapped up in such stereotypes, as understood by people of all races in the US.
Obviously you can’t change your racial heritage, which you really can’t claim any responsibility for and for which I’m not asking you to. I was just trying to affirm the powerlessness of these women’s insults against you and that it sounds like you have more in common with “stereotypical white folk” than you do with “stereotypical black folk”, and you should embrace that identity, whatever you would call it. It sounds like you do, so just take this as a reaffirmation of what you already know.
I see. Thanks for explaining.
I wish more blacks could see that they can redefine what it is to be a black person by embracing better choices. I thank my parents for setting a wonderful example and demanding the best out of my siblings and me. Education and building strong families was emphasized. I was taught that having babies out of wedlock was for trashy women.
When I was working, I certainly did make more money than black women who chose to live stereotypical lives. This is partly because I did not become pregnant for irresponsible men and I focused on my education. Even though I am now a homemaker, my life is still better because I chose a responsible and successful Alpha for a husband. Those thugs without a job or legal source of income couldn’t even hold my hand, much less date or impregnate me.
Thanks again for your explanation and support.
Cheers. I dated a black girl for a few months, and she had some similar thoughts as you are expressing. It didn’t work out for other reasons, but I actually kinda miss her and wish other aspects of our personal situations had been better at the time. She was generally a sweet girl and seemed to suffer from identity issues, having been raised in a white neighborhood, so not ever really being “truly white” or “truly black”.
I think about her a lot when this kind of stuff comes up actually.
No matter what neighbourhood she was raised in, she will always be a black woman just as I will.
Hey, sorry if that came off wrong. I think you know what I meant, though… she’s torn between two cultures and feels a belonging…and none, to both.
Have you read “Black Boy” by Richard Wright?
I know what you meant and my heart goes out to any black woman who is rejected by our community, for not fitting awful stereotypes and being open minded.
Did you find that you were treated better by her compared to white women? I’m asking because my husband always says that I was the best girlfriend he ever had and he only dated white women before me. Apparently all of the white women he dated were entitled feminists. I have heard more than one white guy say that black women take care of their men. I was wondering what your take on that is.
Yes, and I actually was going to say something about that. She treated me like a man and expected me to act like a man. I think white women’s primary focus in this day and age is “breaking the gender barrier” even if it comes at the expense of meaningful relationships with men.
White western women have a horrible sense of entitlement, so they think they should be treated like royalty by men without being kind and sweet in return.
Generally speaking, I agree.
ur right bercel Im white n I have seen a lot of blacks put others down for that reason, such a shame
I have heard the same thing but reversed races. don’t start with that crap. theres ghetto people in all races. I have been treated like crap by dating both blacks n whites. more like crap by black men tho if u want to play that stuck up game
ive heard black and white men say that black women are violent and hard to communicate with. I have a hard time making friends with black women becuz most do act like they are above me with so much confidence about it. n they love there confidence but its a little too much. its good to be confident but when u start putting others down it becomes being stuck up n ignorant. a balance is needed
I realize that there are ghetto people in all races. However, I am most familiar with ghetto blacks because they are a part of my racial community. As for being “stuck up”, that is yet another term that other blacks like to throw at me. Now I take it as a compliment because it means that I do not embody the awful stereotypes and the commenter feels threatened by that. Haters gonna hate.
I have never met a black person who blames their problems on white people. I live in a black area and I talk to black people all day, everyday.
You have never lived in BattleCreek lol.
You live on the moon?
or Pluto.
This comment has to be a joke….
LOLOLOL !!!!
Dark side of the moon.
For whites glibly to dismiss the continuing legacy of racism and apartheid is deeply offensive. Some blacks tend to overcompensate for white racist attitudes and your one of them
Just because I’m not using racism as an excuse to do poorly in life, it doesn’t mean that I am “overcompensating”. There is no need for me to overcompensate because I am successful despite society telling me that I should not be.
You’re clearly just the kind of uneducated whiner that I am talking about. That is why you don’t know the difference between too, to and two. Please try again when you are literate.
who is using a racism as an excuse? who said I’m uneducated. you might thing that you have escaped racism but it shall always come back to remind you of your skin colour. you are not immune from racism
Obviously she isn’t immune to it because you just exposed her to your racism.
You have shown your lack of education by the way you write and spell. As a black woman, I will never escape racism but I can choose to rise above it instead of allowing racism to ruin my life. What’s your excuse?
you are also a racists
the important thing is the message!! whether I misspell words or write in a wrong way!! I don’t care but if you got the message it’s cool!! you must be thinking that your better than everyone!
I’m not better than everyone…but I am certainly better than YOU.
What high school proviso east? haha
I ironically attended “Martin Luther King College Prep” where I was not treated based on the content of my character haha And this is by my fellow Black students.
Still sounds better than Senn High-school lol
Black Americans are more racist than White Americans (on average) and most polling/voting data supports this…But worldwide it’s an impossible question to answer since there are so many different groups of Black and White people…If we compare Whites from Russia with Blacks from Ghana or the Bahamas than I think Whites would be more racist…My point is it varies by country and area…
To explain the blatantly racist behaviors of Black Americans well I think you have the “minority vs majority” phenomenon at work….In America Blacks are about 14 percent of the population so they have developed a sort of inferiority complex and hyper-vigilance against any threats (which happens to most minority groups that were discriminated against in the past) because they are constantly comparing themselves to the larger group (White Americans) in culture, standards of success and beauty, history etc etc….So it creates a sort of “chip on your shoulder” phenomenon (the same could be said of the Maori in New Zealand and other minority groups)…..
On the other hand the Bahamas or Barbados etc are like 90 percent Black so those Blacks are coming from societies where they are the dominant powerful group and their standards (African/Caribbean) of success and beauty are the ideal standards….So they are much less vigilant against “threats” and act much less close-nit as a group…
Also how did Trayvon Martin put himself in a situation to have been killed? No one asked Zimmerman to approach him in the first place end of discussion right there! Zimmerman as recent as last month was in court again for violence with a weapon. He has gotten in trouble before and after the Trayvon Martin incident and I will bet he will get into serious trouble again in the future. Yet Conservative Media does everything to try to paint victims as “criminals”for smoking pot or playing hooky things that white kids do too but oftentimes they let slide as “kids being kids.” You see i woldnt justify a white victim because he smoked pot in the past. Also what about Amadou Diallo no jail record and gets shot at 41 times! And Black conservatives are the ones leading the charge to paint victims as “criminals” or people like Tamir Rice who gets shot at and killed by the police for playing with a fake gun within 2 seconds of the police pulling up! You see its not that we are defending REAL criminals…its an injustice we see in the Justice System with Class and Race. No one cares about conservative perspectives on the economy or other social issues but criminalizing victims even when they are not true criminals and have minor unrelated crimes or none at all is what makes people mad. They seem like they are pandering…and like they are ready to say “Yessum Baus” lol thats why we have no respect for those people. People like Dr. Carson will never get close to the presidency and it’s not him being a conservative that we don’t like but his unrealistic portrayals of his own community, and people like him seem to never criticize negative elements of other communities with the same zest and glee as they do towards their own community. Sad part is some whites and many conservatives are using them to begin with, and secretly view them as just another “black” which is truly sad.
Note: I agree saying that you act “white” by speaking well is idiotic but not all black people think that way and actually an element of blacks who oppose the conservative viewpoint are also very educated and have a deep understanding of history and themselves without self hatred.
As a Garveyite, I’m torn.
Fostering a victim mentality in other races is a way for “The Man” to
aggrandize himself. Consider that whoever accepts blame is the
responsibility party. Responsibility is a facet of leadership. Therefore, whichever race assumes responsibility for everything that ever happens to any other race is the de facto “master race.” Black grievance mongering is white supremacy.
One thing that would transform racial dynamics in America is to recognize every part-white person as “white.” Historically, anyone with observable black ancestry was categorized as “black,” and, currently, we have myriad different little categories for government use. The reality, however, is that caucasian ancestry is everywhere around us, and “pure” white people will inevitably be more scarce over time, as they are the manifestation of recessive genes. That is, while blond people will soon be a minority in America, “whitish” people (to include Mexican mestizos) will continue to be the overwhelming majority.
I agree. That victim mentality I had toget out of. When I was deep into emceeing in Hip Hop that’s all other emcees talked about,whether a black emcee or white emcee, how they were oppressed by the police, government, white man, etc.
What did that get me? A poverty in mentality. After straying from that and taking the blue pill, I have found a wealth in mentality, where I have done everything with self improvement, such as attending graduate school, networking, working on my writing projects, reading books, traveling the world, and advancing in my career.
It was when I took the “IM” and added “OR” to the word “VICT” my mentality opened up to more positively vast opportunities.
That’s awesome dude, carry the torch proudly and congrats for escaping. There’s a lot of pressure in that community, from what I see, to stay stupid and poor so good for you for seeing through it.
I’ve seen some awesome black men in my life I respected. Teachers, Soldiers and normal folk. It must be hell. We all have to deal with these fundamentalist SJW fanatics. Seriously no different religious zealots. If we are divided we are all in jeopardy.
It wasn’t until I met my first conservative black person who openly disdained Ferguson protestors that I realized that hey, there really are good ones out there who understand what this is all about.
I speak with her about this stuff all the time, she feels extremely lonely in her community because she doesn’t know a single other black person–at a fairly black college–who understands that Ferguson was a fake thing that didn’t actually happen the way the media said it did.
99% of them believe anything at face value, and unfortunately that has left blacks wide open to be manipulated by people like Hussein Obama who pretend to be on their team but are not.
They are marginalized and pushed out of the picture. I saw one black person, making some extremely valid points on an onsite interview, then…
“Back you Jim!” Can’t have a black man on TV making any sense! Doesn’t fit the narrative of racism and victimization! Hell, they tried to rake Charles Barkley over the coals for having a rational opinion.
The media pulls the puppets Jackson and Sharpton out of their luggage and the show begins.
There is an extremely funny compilation of Sharpton’s show and man that guy has little command of any language, let alone English. Is he even well?
Bro, who are you!!??? Because we might be kindred
Haha I’m a young Black man doing his best in Chicago. Do you live in Chicago by chance?
I never understood how blacks studying, going to college and getting a good job in an outstanding corporation made them Uncle Toms. The very people that call others Uncle Toms are using white man’s electricity and white man’s inventions but learning white man academics and earning a living in white man’s job is being an Uncle Tom. Makes no sense.
Apparently to not be an Uncle Tom you would have to live in the woods and build a new civilization there with no knowledge or skills from the white man.
Too right. They have discovered what the jews and women have known for ages, and the muslim immigrant to Europe is catching on to: There is no stronger position in this world than being perceived at the victim of the white MAN’s action.
If the white man has been tricked into believing he owes you an apology, he’ll carry you on his shoulder wherever you want to go.
He is incredibly talented and incredibly stupid.
Just because Whites are the most tolerant people on earth, and yes they are, never believe that they are weak. They can get tough pretty fast if pushed too far and taken advantage of.
I’m with you for the most part, but let’s not confuse Hip-Hop culture with the Crap Rap culture that mainstream world perpetuates. The shitty rap you hear on the surface is a misrepresentation of a large portion of Hip-Hop the same way thug imagery is a misrepresentation of a large portion of black males who have their heads on straight, as I’m sure you can relate to. This genre has been and continues to be a positive influence for me throughout my life. Unfortunately most people are totally unaware of the large amount of worthy artists within the culture because, unless you’re looking for it, it’s not as easy to come across as what is played to death on the radio. Positive black imagery which does not fit a particular stereotype is pretty much censored out of mainstream media. Keep in mind that BET has a fairly lengthy list of banned artists because they aren’t “relevant.” In other words, they are “too intelligent” or better yet the level of quality is too high for the masses. Hip-Hop could play a significant role in raising the morale and self-awareness of not only black people, but people in general if it weren’t so goddamn dumbed down for the masses as being nothing but thug and material worship music.
I listen to some conscious hip-hop as well but as you said, the ignorant rap and hip-hop is in the mainstream getting the play. I should have narrowed it to mainstream hip-hop which is mostly “gangsta”. Especially here in Chicago, it’s hard to find young Black men not engulfed in the hip-hop culture. Black people should not be afraid to be unique, but I sense a huge herd mentality here in Chicago.
“Black people should not be afraid to be unique”
I agree with this sentiment entirely. I feel that we need to balance out an understanding/appreciation of black history and culture with a deeper understanding of ourselves, beyond the identification of being black. One thing I find interesting to think about is that, if life really is a cycle of reincarnation til self-actualizing then, for all we young black people know, some of us could have been white slave masters in a past lifetime. How comical would that be? Us condemning white people for their wrongs against us when we were one of them. I for one would laugh til I cried if I happened to make that discovery.
I’m also into Hip Hop music and I am with you on this comment! Like everything else people judge an entire thing from only the little they are exposed to.
People need to stop talking about “Blacks” and “Whites” like they are two different guys. Its ridiculous. We have moved past this. All blacks and all whites do not think with the same brain. Are there some racists blacks? Sure. But there are plenty that are not. Same with whites.
This kind of simplification of issues makes an article like this appear ignorant rather than profound.
Read this comment far too late but I couldn’t agree more.
First thing blacks need to do is get rid of the thugs, baby mamas & sell outs like you!
So talking about Blacks doing better through education, self improvement, and disowning Hip-hop is selling out? You sound like the Black kids from my youth, grow up.
Bruh, you sound like a Tom my dude… Yes there are issues, however I cannot simply lean back and swallow all of this bullshit… To believe that this author some how “knows” black people is appalling, he never addresses the under lying factors involved, circumstances, missed oppurtunites of blacks in the corporate sector who have equal or greater qualifications than their white counter parts but still are not hired by potential employers… Yes that would piss me off too… The guy is a bonafide racist in his own right, even going at length to even critcize the tv shows black people watched.. I mean really? 99% of sitcoms on TV are white, whites watch white TV so why can’t blacks watch black TV? When I was in engineering school, I was 1 of 3 blacks in the science department, the dirty looks we got from WHITE students, for no other reason than we were black… And like always when blacks attempt to advance themselves like in our case we got push back and faced discrimination, because just our presence in the class room challenged their corrupted beliefs that black people are not equal to them. They become fearful… Given my experiences with whites I’m surprised I’m not a hard core racist, this guy whines about scattered incidents in his past while I lived it everyday of my life, boo fucking hoo. But unlike he stated I made NO excuses for my situation, I went to college, graduated and am living very well… But someone like him would still find something wrong with that as racist do.. ( mainly out of lack of intelligence and jealousy/failure to achieve in their own right) you need to do a reevaluation on yourself while you have several seats because your talking very reckless…
I think you missed the whole point. I never said Whites in this country haven’t tried to hold us back or were racist. That would be an asinine assertion. My main point was that we as a people can do much better building each other up. I spoke from personal experience when in my life, more Blacks tried to hold me back than Whites. Everyone has their own life experiences and I won’t say your experiences are invalid. Instead of trying to get jobs with White people, why not start more companies and employ ourselves? Blacks are some of the biggest consumers in America, how about using our money for the edification of our community instead of consumerism. Just because its Black tv doesn’t mean its good. There is a lot of good Black tv, but most mainstream Black tv shows keeps Blacks in a small box related to hip-hop or some other stereotype. My thing is, we can’t expect Whites to make our situation better, only we can because they don’t care. If taking self responsibility for myself is being an uncle tom, it’s better than having a slave mentality and I’m not a child so calling me names means nothing to me.
I appreciate the reply, however there is no love left in me for the states, like what I mentioned about employment, it’s not that blacks are Intentionally looking for white jobs, that’s just the American corporate sector in a nut shell… I don’t recall Microsoft, coco cola or Google being being know for their blackness or any Fortune 500 company in between… Either-way as I stated about having no love for the states I applied for employment abroad and got overwhelming responses back from foreign employers… I’ve been overseas for years but glance back every now and then on what America is doing and it hasn’t change since I’ve left nearly 2 decades ago, they biggest shame is the fact that I had to leave my own country for employment and to be welcomed with open arms in a country half a world away…. I can assure you the victim mentality does not rest within me as I became educated and sought employment on my own merit…. And am living better then many well to do whites back in America… I say this not to flaunt but to say that the bulk of the problem lies within the American white male, who absolutely refuses to admit, address or even come to grips with the fact that their totally clueless, arrogant mindset sets the tone in America… Again the main problem is the American white male… I’ve not encountered racism for their European counterparts in fact they agree with me on the current situation in America and why it’s heading in the direction it’s heading…. Yes blacks have growing to do, I’m not denying that fact however, the way the media loves to portray and perpetrate lies about us enhancing negative reactions to blacks in general no matter the circumstances… I’m also infuriated at the article that appeared to be written by a white man that was mad he couldn’t “get in good with us” which is no surprise, not condoning it but blacks are naturally suspicious of white people because many times what they say does not reflect their intentions… As racist as Australians are which is pretty much 99% white they admit they have a problem! and they attribute it to a lack of knowledge and ignorance on their part not hatred and disgust over ones color… Like I said it just sounds to me that the guy writing the article was just pissed that a few blacks let him know where they stand and he didn’t like it… America as a whole not just blacks have a lot of growing to do… I have faith that blacks are starting to become conscious and are taking steps within their communities to curb education bullying…,however a white person has no business commenting on our personal and mainstream struggles., they simply don’t know… Again it’s the white American male that is the main problem in America, we are just collateral damage… I apologize for calling you names, I just can’t justify agreeing with the moron that wrote the article, again he has no business commenting on something he has no clue about….
tell the millions of white people to stop buying hip hop albums cause they support it! , and you are the type of black that has a mind unlike most blacks, but you must not use that mind to put down your own people. you know that in life your situation is not similar to everyone Else’s , no one should use the “victim mentality” because the real victims wont be heard like many blacks who were victims and aren’t heard cause they aren’t taken seriously because according to everyone (including the media “run by jews) that is not black their isn’t an issue. “its just a black complaining”. the problem in the black community is blacks like you , your better off so you look down on your people and move away from their neighborhood instead of staying and helping them get through it. your the black that will see obvious foul play from whites and turn your shoulder on it because you see chaos from your own people. your blind , whites will never accept blacks (that includes you). that is why blacks must support each other. stop buying from the white man , the Asian man , the Indian man , the Spanish man , buy from your own people , support your own people don’t go to school to get a job working for the white man go to school and make a business for your own people. stop being like them (white people) , they are privileged and blind they wont see the oppression blacks go through everyday no matter how much they preach they know. i pay no attention to those cases on tv because they are all fixed in order to start race wars , these young teens were both sacrifices . you have such poor faith in your people. maybe that is why you always see chaos from them… you should fix your opinion on your own people because they should come first. every race puts their people first accept blacks , blacks let white people destroy themselves and blacks today refuse to work with each other because they feel once they get money or a better job they ditch their own people and never support each other. you blacks don’t understand that the more you criticize each other and complain the more real progress does not get done. we need more blacks that are doers not Sayers and criticizers of our race!. i am sick and tired of this affirmative action behavior towards whites. they are not our gods stop looking for their approval! , approval only comes from ourselves a race!
Who is looking for approval? I spoke of my personal experiences, if that upsets you, that is your problem. I call it like I see it. We can’t be afraid of criticism. I laid out actions we can take to better ourselves like stop glorifying rap and hip hop, and focus on education and self improvement. Stop being so sensitive, I love my people.
Well said.
I’m an outsider, as I live in a different country and I am of Vietnamese heritage and I probably shouldn’t be commenting regarding this issue in America but it is about race and I couldn’t resist even if this is a 6 month old comment.
“When young, I went to a mixed school in the Suburbs until I moved to the inner city of Chicago and attended an all Black middle and Highschool. Immediately, all the students said I talked White and encouraged me to use ebonics. They said me studying and getting good grades was also acting White.”
The mentality towards studying and getting good grades as being “white” is appalling. They’re setting themselves for future failure by thinking like that. They have to realise that they have the option of having a highschool education and need to realise that there are teenagers living in Third World countries that have no access to education at all. What they said to you just shows that they are degrading themselves by wanting to live in their bubble of ignorance.
Also, good on you for ignoring those pissants from highschool for wanting to better your life by studying and maintaining good grades and having goals in life.
Now I’m the one replying late to you haha Thank you for your kind words. I have never been to Vietnam, but I have been to Asia when I visited Japan. I agree with everything you said. There are people who would give almost anything to get an education, while some Black Americans willingly shun it. There is a lot of anti-intellectualism promoted from sources like Hip-Hop and Television that too many people take to heart. It is getting better, but it is still a problem. Are there any social issues in Vietnam that can compare to this American example? I love to travel and would love to visit Vietnam someday.
“When young, I went to a mixed school in the Suburbs”
Your cooning makes sense now. You simply don’t know your history.
“All the students said I talked White and encouraged me to use ebonics”. This happened to me too. I went to a mixed school first, THEN went to an all-black school (why would my mother do this?). But then, when I didn’t act like then, I would always get bullied, especially by black boys, and I didn’t do anything. They were shit-starters. Even the teachers would turn against me (black teachers). And you wonder why I always hang out with other races. ‘Tis a shame. eventually I went to a mixed high school, but they are still racial divides, especially among black students and teachers, and EVEN latinos. Now these people that are supposedly “victmized” are just imposters and just taking away the victory from the REAL victims of racism.
I’ve seen very similar things in my life. Many Blacks self segregate and limit their experiences in life. I’ve seen it all too often. You have to only hang around other Blacks and then all act the same. I’ve always had friends of other races and loved the experiences of learning new things from them. They dishonor the actions of leaders like MLK by going against what he stood for.
I really do not mind so much when black people are a little bigoted. My problem is with masochistic white liberals.
My boss is black and she treats me fairly.
I just get sick of white liberals trying to virtue-signal by talking about how guilty we should all feel as white people. I feel bad for the times I have done the wrong things as an individual, but I really do not worry about things people did 100 years ago. Nor should anybody have to.
I really think we could all get along a lot better if the left did not encourage people to become victimhood tribes.
With victim hierarchy. I think with the basic equal rights fought for by MLK, the left had done its job. . Now they are all about socially engineering and bean counting the allotment of privileges each person is allowed to have.
Government should just back off and let the grassroots work it out. The melting pot would work if we would let it.
I’m in total agreement with you on everything except the Trayvon Martin case.
I think his case is somewhat unique versus all the other high profile cases where I’m on the side of law enforcement.
George Z. wasn’t/isn’t a policeman and was clearly out for blood given what we heard on the dispatch recordings. I don’t believe he set out to kill anyone, I think he wanted “something” to happen that would get this person (Trayvon) at the very least, arrested so he instigated a confrontation (confident while armed with a gun).
Trayvon isn’t alive to give his version of how things unfolded so all we have is one side of the story and a witness that saw the fight. However, we do know that he was very apprehensive about being “followed” by a stranger.
I think George is a wannabe cop/bad ass that has personal issues that led to an innocent young man losing his life. Trayvon may or may not not have turned into a responsible young adult but he’ll never get the chance either.
They are pretty bad tippers too and think the world owes them everything just for being black
Stop cooning breh. No matter how much white ass you kiss. They’ll never accept you.
You bore me with your played out insults and silly shame tactics. All I did was speak about my personal life experiences. If you think that is cooning, you are just another idiot.
You are a coon. I recommend you, as a black man, wake up and take the real red pill. The red pill 98% of these virgins copied from, Tariq Nasheed. Lace yourself up with some real game, kid.
HAHAHA, you are funny. You can’t create a coherent argument so you resort to name calling. I’m not a child so name calling bores me. Let me know when you develop reasoning skills to debate and stay on topic. Good day sir
There’s nothing to debate, I see your type all the time. You’re one of those black kids who grew up around white people. I can feel your aura through the screen lol. You think being a token is a good thing 😂. Like I said, you want the “red pill” so bad yet you’re too silly to swallow it.
Please tell me more about how much you know me anonymous internet guy. You are so wrong it’s laughable. “You think being a token is a good thing”. Huh? Where did I ever even mention anything about tokens or about tokens being good or bad? Please increase your reading comprehension. I grew up around all races of people. Sorry I don’t fit your specific “Black Agenda” anonymous internet guy, but Black people are allowed to think for themselves if you didn’t know. People like you try hold other Black people back from being the best they can be.
I see your type all the time lol. Nobody is holding your silly ass back I’m trying to help you, house nigga.
You simply don’t understand the game. You want to follow behind these nilly vanilly white boys who set up these little blogs 3 years ago 😂😂😂 dumb fuck they ALL are just plagiarizing from Tariq Nasheed. You don’t even realize that black people started all this, these white boys are trying their best to be like a black man (Tariq Nasheed) yet your blue pilled ass wants to follow behind some copy & paste white boy virgins 😂😂😂😂 dumb fuck read a book.
Who says I’m following them? I’m now a House nigga for not following you and thinking for myself? You make my head hurt. Maybe you should read a book because you display 0 reading comprehension. You are just making up stuff in your mind about someone you don’t even know. I’m done with this conversation because you live in a fantasy world. I’ve actually been to Africa in Ghana and know much more about Blacks around the the world than you do. Nice to know that thinking for yourself and working on self improvement is being a house nigga. I hope you relish your ignorance 🙂
Jesus Christ man why do you have so much self hate? Did you get teased younger and couldn’t handle the jokes? You make us light skin niggas look bad with your coonery..
Get off this white washed “redpill” shit most of these white boys COPIED their “game” from Tariq Elite lol. He’ll break all this shit down for your silly ass.
I know this is a year old. But I had to say THANK YOU! Thank you for being YOU. You don’t have to act like anyone but yourself and I totally agree with you it is the new it’s cool to be a gangster or thug attitude that hold back black AND WHITE AND BROWN people. I’m a American Indian well half but everyone thinks I’m a texmex. I guess most people call me a red neck because I like to fish and hunt and have pit bulls and live on a farm. But guess what my Very best friends are Black and Philippine. And guess what they are “Red neck” too. I diss like anyone no matter the race if they are a stupid jerk. I respect any man or woman that is a honest good person. I don’t even care if they are a Outlaw as long as they are a fair man. The new it’s a Black thing ain’t cool. Don’t hate a person because he’s White or Black. I use to work deep in the projects and was treated terrible until folks got to know me. Then I started sharing meat from my beefs and fish and would bring boxes of vegetables I grew to some of the folks that needs a little bit more food than our sorry government would alott them. And they soon understood I was just like them just from the country. And there is a lot of good folks that have a hard time both black and white in the city and country and if folks would treat each other with respect and dignity we wouldn’t have any issues. And remember No one cares how much money you make or how. Big your wheels on your car are. When your dead and gone they remember how YOU were. God bless y’all. J
We don’t believe you you fu<king @ss kissing coon. Lol, this dude thinks Internet cool points from white people is an achievement. What a fu <king ignorant coon you are. I’m sure your probably from Kansas or somewhere where know nothing about real successful black people. You’re a fu<king Tom to the highest extent. I’m starting to think you are not black at all actually.
Then please, do what you can to wipe out this racist horse shit about “white privilege”. It is almost unheard of for black folks to speak out about that one directly but that is what it’s going to take because the black folks who believe in that shit won’t listen to what white folks have to say about it. Their minds are already made up that any white person who disagrees with that bull shit is just “in denial” or “whitesplaining”. So it’s going to take strong black voices to get other people to listen and pull that garbage down off its fake throne and rip it to shreds and shit on it permanently for the utter load of bullshit it is. Let’s make 2017 the year we wake up from this crap like it was all a bad dream and get back on track with making a better world for everyone.
Also, you’re really smart and forward-thinking for someone age 24. I wish I’d been half as smart at your age!
Good for you, not giving in to the peer pressure, and sticking to your goals! Nice to see that for any young person.
You’re hot.:)
I’m Tatiana.
The worst thing about these black people who claim to care so much about their race and how much they want to break stereotypes of their race, is that by continually looting and rioting and making a fool of themselves in the public eye they continue to feed the negative stereotypes that are held of them. It’s the greatest irony that in an attempt to end their perceived oppression they only oppress themselves.
You are not the only one to go through that situation. I had to fight a lot in grade school just because I paid attention in class and wouldn’t let them cheat off my paper. Like you, I was told I “acted white”, even by some of my own family at one point. Makes no sense, that they scream about how blacks need to stick together and whatnot, but as soon as one of us go outside the boundaries they set for the “black community”, we are the bad guys and are disowned by them, not being black enough accordingly. Oh well, they will just have to accept it. They can’t do anything about it.
Wow! Nice! 🙂
Your comments are so true and good for you. The feature articles that I read so much just blames white people for everything when this is just not true.. I don’t even notice colour. People have enough problems going on in their life instead of thinking about this subject.
I refuse to take any blame or responsibility for things that happened before I was born. If other people want to be so obsessed with the past, let them.
And while we’re on this topic, why aren’t the descendants of this guy being hit up for reparations?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_%28colonist%29
“I refuse to take any blame or responsibility for things that happened before I was born. If other people want to be so obsessed with the past, let them.”
Don’t celebrate the 4th of July, don’t celebrate Veteran’s day, don’t celebrate your flag–heck don’t celebrate anything–when you hear someone say something positive about the US–snicker at them and say “hogwash man, that has nothing to do with me, that was like, 500 years ago, give it a rest already”–
You can always go move to Cuba or North Korea.
I’ll cheer for the winning team.
Yep you got no response–dismissed–
Oh and I am sure your kkk grandparents were saying the same thing while hanging black men in the US
ROFL… You should be grateful that 360k mostly white people died to free your ancestors.
you should deep throat a cactus.
I.e. based on my response you think I am black and American–I’m neither–ask questions next time rather than assume–
oh hey black Americans, be grateful that white people died to keep you in chains, well some did fight, reluctantly, on false promises about lands and riches, to free you–be glad black Americans–not that the same white people that “Freed” you created a system that essentially gave carte blanche to any white person that wanted to kill you–
jeez what is wrong with you people?
yep–still got nothing logical to say–dismissed five days ago
Just like everyone dismissed your irrelevant comment.
You assumed I was KKK.
So I am going to assume you’re a piece of suit communist who should go move to Cuba you ungrateful fuck.
well that’s a bold face lie–so dismissed again–
When did i say that You were kkk?
“So I am going to assume you’re a piece of suit communist who should go move to Cuba you ungrateful fuck.”
Is that the best insult you have? C’mon on now, you can do better–Dismissed again–
Your previous post you dumbass.
0 likes. Irrelevant.
“Oh and I am sure your kkk grandparents were saying the same thing while hanging black men in the US”
that is what i wrote–again where i did write that you were kkk?
by your own logic, your post is irrelevant–dismissed once again
Funny. I thought I was “dismissed.”
I like how I still control this conversation.
Funny how caught you in a bold face lie but you can’t admit your error–so dismissed again–
What lie? You clearly think I am a KKK member and you’re the one wasting your time trying to convince me that you don’t think that.
You need to learn to not pursue guys like that. They might get the wrong idea about you.
“What lie?”
Go back and read–my lines and yours are there to read–
“You clearly think I am a KKK member”
Whether you are actually one or not is unknown to me–however from your line of thinking it seems you might be a sympathiser to say the least–
The term ‘racism’ is scientifically unproductive because it can mean too many things. However, if the definition of ‘racism’ (or ethnocentrism) is going to mean the preference of one’s own kind over others and even at the expense of others, then the fact of the matter is ‘racism’ is hard wired and inate in everyone. Social conditioning teaches us not to be but it still exists.The more primitive races or those that never adapted to civilization tend to be less inhibited in their displaying of racism. Also apathy and altruism tend to be stronger in races that did develop and adapt to civilizations. The other racial group living within European societies exploit the apathy and altruism of whites. From an evolutionary perspective it makes perfect sense for them to do this and advance their own interests for thier own kind. Whites are to blame if they allow this to continue.
Unrelated. Purely for entertainment value.
So I found a website that looks at the affordability of cities. I checked out the Toronto page and the forum was capped with comments about how much Toronto sucks. Obviously I joined in and made some remarks about the new educational indoctrination program.
Here is some backlash I got, and I think it nicely illustrates the closed-mindedness of the opposition.
“#Clark Kent you are angry because you can’t get laid. Ur a loser. Women in Toronto have standards because my body is my body, not for your eyes to starerape me! F******** you Clark Kent u looser who cant get laid
if u cant get laid in toronto no woman will love you anywhere u looser”
Pretty soon we’re gonna have 12 year old girls telling the boys that they’re “loosers who cant laid”… Think about it…
Starerape?
How can any thinking being take these children seriously? Starerape? Go hit the inner cities, toots, the bad parts, and come running back to us “stare rapers” after you’ve experienced real rape.
Looser? I love when people repeatedly misuse the language and then call other people ‘loosers’. Heh. What losers.
“stare rape” is a crime now?
It’s a crime that someone seriously uses that term in a sentence as if it actually meant something.
“I will pull off my sunglasses and stare-rape you!”
(In Gunny Hartman’s DI voice)
Only idiots who can’t correctly spell “loser” while trying to call someone a loser, think starerape is an actual thing.
They’re such compassionate, caring people, you fucking cisgender pos scum. Fucking scum!
They’re honest. They hate men and are spoiled rotten little cunts. Their male supporters are emotionally stunted and often deluded tools, products of feminism.
My comments weren’t even misogynistic.
I was honestly just posting “Hey everybody, lets raise our own kids and not have some childless lesbian dictate the elementary school curriculum.”
I must obviously be a looser and no woman will ever love me no matter where I go lol.
Lots of female hatred, already natural to them, always there, then it can be amped up a lot.. see feminist propaganda + living in places like Toronto -lots of males to pick from, lots of jobs for females, etc., and the Internet making people bigger cunts…most of them are cowards in real life.
They do it to themselves.
A lot of them can’t stand even just the tiniest bit of personal responsibility.
What site was it?
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Canada&city=Toronto
Thanks. This is actually trippy as fuck. Im on a site outside of ROK that is bursting with the kind of comments you would find on ROK proper. Toronto has done wonders for Redpill proliferation.
There is a lot of MGTOW/Red-Pill/PUA material that has come out of TO. No one is open about it in public yet but there is definitely frustration bubbling beneath the surface (although parents have been protesting Kathleen Wynne’s new curriculum en masse). Even the women are unhappy they just can’t figure out why.
What’s this site you’re on I wanna check it out.
The site you linked me. Posters from here have all posted there but everyone agrees with them except the resident feminists.
The same site you posted the link for. I recognize posts made by people who post here too ie: CanadianExpat. The non ROK posters agree with them and have all written similar comments. The only people on that site who continue to defend Toronto are the resident Feminists and Fags.
Oh gotchya I misread your comment.
Yeah I check that forum every once in a while and I’m amazed what people are saying.
It reports that there have been 100 comments, but they just keep deleting the old posts so it really has to be like 1000.
Some of my favourite posts were from recent immigrants to Canada and even they see the social culture here as ultra-liberal and feminist.
Dont want to freak you out, but that isnt even a person…its a computer program…
Great… feminist computers…
We’re fucked everybody… Time to go home.
LOL! its a lesbot man!
But seriously, a lot of local reporters have been shitcanned in recent yrs in favor of programs that rehash a press release for example.Why not do the same for commenters? Use as a weapon to drown out dissent?
The only thing a lesbian needs is a dildo and a u-haul.
Lolz was that city-data and it’s forum?
They already are…
I couldn’t agree with this article more. True changes begin with stop playing a fucking victim. It’s ridiculous. I will however say that a bit of white racism is covert. It bothers me at times but I just keep it moving. I’m a real estate broker. I’ve sold ove 4 million in sales last year and I’m top in my office. The amount of times I get a call and show up to the home and it’s an upstart middle class white family and I hear “you weren’t the guy on the phone were you?” And “we’ll get back to you” are astronomical. It is what it is though. Just food for thought. Everyone is a little racist.
I’m 48. 30 years ago, I would have sworn all this race shit would soon be expiring. A color-blind society, MLK dreams, etc… would be the reality in my lifetime.
That dream is dead and buried. It will be welfare sponsored ghettos, pc nonsense like “privilege” and all the other SJ crap until long after I’m gone.
Remember when we used to be able to laugh at Archie Bunker and his George Jefferson? They were funny because they were such dinosaurs. Not any more. The closest we have now is “Blackish” – were the main character worries he isn’t “black” enough.
Here we are, both white&black, judging others by color of skin, as opposed to judging one by character&actions: both white&black get what they deserve for our shared ignorance & stupidity.
This board is gonna light up like a pinball machine.
I heard some old school black guy, an orig panther, talking about this new party; he said they have nothing to do with the original party and they are being funded for nefarious purposes…
I’m a bit fuzzy on this particular part of history, but wasn’t the old BPP pretty damned wicked themselves? Or am I thinking of another agitator group from the 60’s?
Started out wanting more input on school curriculum and better school meals. Then got subverted by the gov…
Well then, Malik, the best solution is separation. It can be accomplished peacefully or violently. For Blacks the former would be much better. The fact is you hate us but will fight tooth and nail to stay with us. No more White man, no more fancy cars, no more affirmative action jobs, no grape soda, no more greasy food to fill your bloated waistlines with.
Liberia and Sierra Leon…
The reason this will never happen is because of money. Those in power don’t give a shit about nationalism because they don’t need it, you do.
As long as they stay in power. The power they wield is nothing more than a parlor trick. The money changers create money and more importantly debt with every dollar they issue. With nothing but digits in a computer they take possession of everything, even your body, your labor, your kinetic energy. The money changers are smart. They are also full of avarice, hate, carnality and unbridled greed. At some point things will spin out of their control; it almost did in 2008. All we can do is wait and see. If everyone understood the money changers black magic it would be a start.
Kim Kardashian is not white.
Yeah, what is she anyway, I know very little about her except that she’s a fat girl trying to look thin and she’s a narcissist? Armenian/Turkish or something? I really don’t get the attraction to her that some have. Definitely not my cup of tea.
I think she’s Armenian or something like that.
Armenians are not white 😛
I’m Armenian, what color am I? fuck I can’t tell.
You look white to me. But Kim simply doesn’t. She’s definitely has some darker Arab in her or something.
She just got surgery to look like Jennifer Lopez.
She looks like a gypsy. Definitely not white.
To me, Kim Kardashian almost perfect encapsulates everything that is wrong with America. Shallow, consumerist, narcissist. This is a woman who is famous for being friends with Paris Hilton (another total winner) and making a sex tape. Also, she is fat, and has fucked up her face with plastic surgery. Women’s obsession with her only illustrates how vapid and empty they are. Men’s obsession with her only demonstrates the complete thirst of the American beta male.
*Edit – one more fun fact – her step father is the current trans-freak cause celebre – Bruce Jenner. So she also demonstrates the effect of the decline of traditional American family values.
It’s odd being so detached, yet immersed, in modern culture. 12-ish years off the boob tube and very little theater exposure has left me in an odd position. I know all the famous names, but I probably couldn’t tell you if one of these modern ‘celebrities’ walked up and said hello to me. It’s all second hand information at this point, which is really weird. So right, Kanye West is a name I’ve heard, but I have no idea what he’s famous for and I guarantee you I couldn’t pull him out of a lineup.
Great comment.
Maybe that’s why so many single women now look up to Marilyn Monroe. Sure she was a ho and died of a drug overdose, but compared to the famous broads of today she was actually a woman.
I may catch flak for this – but Kanye is easily the most overrated musician out there. And I’ll confess I’m not a fan of his genre in general, but I will acknowledge talent where it is due among rap and hip-hop acts. But when I hear Kanye, I just think, “God, this guy fucking sucks.”
Now see, I honestly thought he was a sports figure, heh.
It’s like knowing every single name on a script and having no idea what any of the parts are behind the name. Sure you can name drop, but what does it fucking mean?
Neither is George Zimmerman.
He’s an honorary white.
Damn it, I missed another Cracker Convention apparently. This sucks, I probably need to update my home mailing address at Whitey Central. heh
Nevermind, I was thinking of George Zimmerman 😛
My friend’s girlfriend is black and to her Kim Kardashian is white. Basically any girl that isn’t black is white. Sad really.
She must be pretty dark, because Kim K is pretty dark.
She is but she has light skinned black friends (some lighter than Kim K) and they all still consider Kim K to be white. Fucking ridiculous.
Kim Kardashian is of Armenian decent, which is considered a white country. Although I believe the Kardashians are a bit of an embarrassment.
Not white, bro.
Thank you.
White men and white women are just a pawn. Evil in this world wants to keep pettiness going. The same way the thug image is a pawn for black men. The higher ups want to use race to keep people divided and hating each other. Over here in Westchester, NY, I’ve gained a lot of respect from them. Both of my parents are pastors. My dad grew up in North Carolina. He seen the days of colored fountains and white fountains. How can I say I love God yet never seen him a day of my 28 years of my life? Yet hate white folks that I see everyday. They give me passes in the fashion industry.
My mother put me on to Elton John, Duran Duran, Genesis, Phil Collins, Mike and the Mechanics, The system, etc…
I listen to a little bit of rap… This is just who I am…
Of course racism exist because it is the son of Sin.
This doesn’t mean that I should paint all white folks with the same brush. Picasso couldn’t even paint with that brush. To hate whites, I might as well hate Ferrari, Bentley, Tinker Hatfield, etc.
I’m glad my parents never taught me hate. I would miss out on beautiful people. My niece is part German. Hating whites would be to hate my own flesh and blood.
Why make modern day whites pay for the atrocities of their forefathers?
My job as a black man is to lead, SERVE and inspire.
But getting back to Phil Collins, if your a big fan of him/80s, check out his album No Jacket Required. Released in 1985, this is the 30th year anniversary.
I’ve never dated a black woman. No self hate. Just never happened. The last woman I loved was Armenian, Turkish, and Spanish. Fine as hell. One of the best women I’ve ever known was a German woman that lives in Germany. The internet is a incredibly powerful tool. So many lovely people around the world. I don’t wanna be no one except the man that God created me to be.
Whatever path your on, pave that path with gold and diamonds. Let people know who you are.
2 traits that have helped me tremendously in all aspects of life is humility and honor. Especially the latter. All people respect a person that respects themselves.
“I’m glad my parents never taught me hate.”
Me too.
Phil Collins rocks it. Genesis was the shit when I was a kid.
Their Duke album was great if you got into a funk. You could play it and feel instantly better because it was so damned depressing that you came out thinking “Well, I may have it bad, but nothing that bad!”
Lol yeah man. Next year I’ll be 30. I still listen to him and Genesis to this day.
THIRTY! Yer a spring fuckin’ chicken, Levi. I’ll be 58 next month. I mighta been younger than you are now when that song came out. Time do fly, fellas.
Lol yes sir, 30 years old. I think you were. That was on his face value album. Nice album but not better than no jacket required. You’ve seen some great days in America. Your the same age as my dad. He will be 58, on 5/8/2015. I’ll be 29 on 4/26/2015.
Time really does fly.
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It took me a while to appreciate that song. Miami Vice man!
I just want to quote the 1st Lady of the United States, Mrs. Michelle Obama “Black girls rock!” Now, expand your mind for a minute and picture Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton or Laura Bush (you see where I’m going here…) shouting “White girls rock!” Try THAT on for size and let me know how it fits..
Or worse, George Dubya Bush shouting “White boys rock!”
The country would melt from a collective case of the vapors.
Well if “white girls” were historically put down and didn’t have the same rights as black girls and boys..or protection in the justice system then I can understand your analogy…until then it falls flat. This is the same tired idiotic saying “well if they had White Entertainment Television” people would get mad another idiotic statement. When you are the majority and have a large share of everything you don’t need something set apart for yourself. Its like people criticizing Black History Month or getting angry at a more complete history lesson. For Centuries we all black and white have been taught a certain history and all of us been taught Ancient Greek history and about the Romans and European History…that is the irony of all this.
By the way White Entertainment Television is CMT lol
You’re an idiot. You can look at this country’s history and see the portrayals of black people compared to white. White people have always been praised, always been in the spotlight, while blacks were called ugly and worthless. At some point black people have to generate some self pride do you not think? Expand YOUR mind and picture white people drinking green beer in their white pride, while wearing shirts saying kiss them because of their race. Oh wait that actually exists. I thought Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson banned St pattys day, Oktoberfest, etc.
It’s great that you immediately resort to name calling because you disagree with my point. Octoberfest & St. Patricks? Really- that’s your counterpoint?!?
You literally just said nothing with this comment.
This was solid gold during the whole Don Imus witch hunt:
Jason Whitlock is always spot-on. I think I agree with him about 95% of the time and he was definitely on the money here.
Why was he suspended from doing the Sports Reporters? He made fun of a female athlete, yes?
Called her a Nappy headed ho I think?
The fake outrage in America on any and every topic is sickening.
The fight against racism and social inequality has pushed more than 1 BILLION people into early graves since 1900. All the revolutions since the French Revolution have been about equality and they have all ended bloody! The term terrorism was coined to describe the original state-sponsored terrorism called The Red Terror!
Nature abhors a vacuum and when you kill God He must be replaced with something else. This is always the state. The state is deified and we get our new prophet Hitler, Pol Pot, Lenin, Stalin, Franco, Mussolini, Mao, Reagan, Obama, etc. ad nauseum…
The idea that all men are created equal, first proclaimed as part of a national ideology by the American Declaration of Independence in 1776, is probably the most influential socio-moral-political idea of the modern world. It is also the most fundamental and axiomatic; for the Declaration of Independence, after declaring the “self-evident truth all men are created equal”, goes on immediately, in the same sentence, to assert “that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights…” In other words, the whole Human Rights philosophy (or religion) of the so-called “international community”, is based on “the egalitarian dogma”; most of the actions of modern politicians are justified on the basis of “human rights”, which in turn are justified on the basis of egalitarianism.
Even after witnessing the vast upheavals and huge rivers of blood that have been poured out to force equality on the nations of the world since 1776, the world still loves the dogma, still worships it, is still prepared to die for it. Even most Christians, who should know better, regard it as an article of their faith which they believe in with greater sincerity and passion than any other article, including the Holy Trinity or the Divinity of Christ.
American conservatism is a scam. The “movement” exists to exploit the symbols, institutions, and figures associated with White America in order to get those same people to support an agenda that displaces and destroys them. The various elites governing the Hollow Empire based in Washington get to use the power of the United States to destroy their own enemies and the rent-seekers in the Beltway Right get to play the game, feel important, and make a living. Nothing positive is ever accomplished, but then, that is the point.
It’s a delicate balance, as White Americans have to be fed enough nationalism to be willing to fight for Old Glory, but not enough so that they actually have a sense of themselves as a people with authentic traditions or collective interests. The scam breaks down if White Americans are ever offered an alternative that allows them, for once, to fight in their own self-interest. Therefore, much of the resources of the Beltway Right are dedicated to stamping out anything that can’t be fully controlled and reframing it as a deadly threat to right thinking conservatives. Usually this takes the form of calling it “fascist” somehow. There’s Eco-fascism, Islamo-fascism, and of course, liberal fascism.
This is a threat to Conservatism Inc. which after a generation of repeating nonsense slogans has produced hacks who know nothing else. After all, as Jonah Goldberg (who passes for an intellectual in the Beltway Right) says, both the American Right and Left are part of the “tribe of liberty” constantly fighting to expand the “universality of human rights.” The scam is up if Americans figure out “conservatism” might mean something more than Big Gulps and Enlightenment slogans that were nothing but half-baked dribble when first penned. Therefore, when confronted with an alternative ideology of the Right, American conservatives react with far more frenzy and hostility than they can summon towards their supposed enemies on the Left.
Most Americans are socialist and do not know it. Believe in women’s rights? Women should have the same rights as a man? If you do then you are a liberal socialist. Believe in one man one vote? Believe that all races are equal? Believe that there is only one race, the human race? Believe in world peace? Believe everyone can be an American regardless of race, creed, color, religion or national origin? Believe women should work and wear pants instead of raising a family and wearing feminine clothes? Believe abortion to be acceptable? Believe divorce is acceptable? Believe homosexuality is acceptable? Believe race mixing is acceptable? Believe America should support Israel? Believe that one of the most horrendous crimes imaginable is anti-Semitiism and racism? Believe in Going to War to Spread Democracy? Believe in a strong military to fight non-existent terrorists? If you do then you are a liberal socialist.
“The task before UNESCO… is to help the emergence of a single world culture with its own philosophy and background of ideas and with its own broad purpose. This is opportune, since this is the first time in history that the scaffolding and the mechanisms for world unification have become available…. And it is necessary, for at the moment, two opposing philosophies of life confront each other from the West and from the East….
“You may categorize the two philosophies as two super-nationalisms, or as individualism versus collectivism; or as the American versus the Russian way of life, or as capitalism versus communism, or as Christianity versus Marxism. Can these opposites be reconciled, this antithesis be resolved in a higher synthesis? I believe not only that this can happen, but that, through the inexorable dialectic of evolution, it must happen…. In pursuing this aim, we must eschew dogma – whether it be theological dogma or Marxist dogma…. East and West will not agree on a basis of the future if they merely hurl at each other the fixed ideas of the past. For that is what dogma’s are — the crystallizations of some dominant system of thought of a particular epoch. A dogma may of course crystallize tried and valid experience; but if it be dogma, it does so in a way which is rigid, uncompromising and intolerant…. If we are to achieve progress, we must learn to un-crystallize our dogmas.” – “UNESCO: Its purpose and Its Philosophy.” (Washington DC: Public Affairs Press, 1947, page 61 by Julian Huxley.
“It is well known, that, as a general rule, [Negroes] are a graceless, vagabondish set, and contribute very little to the support of the State by which they are protected. They are not citizens, never can become citizens, and wherever found in large numbers they are an expense and a source of trouble…
The black race is an alien one on our soil; and nothing except his amalgamation with ours, or his subordination to ours, can prevent the rise of that instinctive antipathy of race, which, history shows, always arises between opposite races in proximity…
The offspring of an amalgamation must be a hybrid race incapable of the career of civilization and glory as an independent race. And this apparently is the destiny which our conquerors have in view. If indeed they can mix the blood of the heroes of Manassas with this vile stream from the fens of Africa, then they will never again have occasion to tremble before the righteous resistance of Virginia freemen; but will have a race supple and vile enough to fill that position of political subjugation, which they desire to fix on the South.” ~ Rev. Dr. Robert Lewis Dabney (March 5, 1820 – January 3, 1898) Minister, Professor of Theology at Union Theological Seminary and Chief of Staff to General Stonewall Jackson
“The historical mission of our time is to arrange a new culture of humanity, one that will replace the previous ruling system. This reorganization consists of two essentials: the destruction of the old order and the building of the new. To begin with, all physical border posts, ethical barriers and social definitions of the old system must be eliminated and replaced by elements of the new system. Thus the first task of our time is DESTRUCTION! Every social strata and all social formations created by the old system must be destroyed, each individual has to be uprooted from its ancestral environments, no tradition will be anymore regarded as sacred, the Old is merely a sign of disease, and the new credo is: What was, must go! And even though during the first phase all people are declared the same, in the next and final phase they need to be re-divided and differentiated, and a new pyramidal hierarchical system must emerge.” – Nahum Goldmann, 1915 Zionist fanatic and founder of the World Jewish Congress
“The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this “new world order” the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.”-Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, `La Revue de Paris’, p. 574, June 1, 1928
The interracial breeding of the races was not promoted as an issue until Roosevelt became President with Communist Party support. Roosevelt issued the first “civil rights law” on June 25, 1941 in the form of Executive Order No. 8802. This established the Fair Employment Practice Committee (FEPC). It banned discrimination based on “race, color or creed” among all private businesses receiving defense contracts.
His wife Eleanor was the first prominent White woman to join the NAACP. She was also the first to approve interracial marriage in a speech to Negro students at Howard University. She said: “Marriage between Whites and Negroes is an individual and personal marrer. I would never say yes or no to intermarriage.” She also opposed Sen. Bilbo’s repatriation plan which led him to offer her the position of “Queen of Liberia”.
Communist Party chairman Earl Browder supported the Roosevelts and issued this statement: “We must, as a war necessity, proceed to the systematic and relentless wiping out of every law, custom and habit of thought, which in flagrant violation of our Constitution enforces an unequal status between Negro and White citizens.
Famous scientists warned that interracial breeding would lower the quality of the White Race. It is known that the Negro has an I.Q. 15 to 20 points lower than the average White and this is an inherited trait. Their racial features are those of primitive man, such as: 1) The Negro arms are two inches longer than the White. 2) The Negro jaw juts forward giving him a facial angle of 70%, compared with the White of 82%. 3) The Negro skull is thicker and their brain weeghts 1249 grams compared to 1380 far the White. 4) The mouth, jaw and teeth are much larger than the White. 5) The skin is thicker and their sweat glands emit a strong oder when perspiring. The body is mostly hairless. 6) The mouth has thick protruding lips, often showing the inner red mucous membrane inside the mouth. Likewise, the flat nose in pure Negroes has the nostril often showing the inner red mucous membrane. 7) The eyes are always black and the white part frequently is tinged with yellow. 8) At birth, the Negro skull sutures close much earlier than any other race which retards the development of the forebrain – where the centers of intelligence lie.
Multiculturalism begins as bargain made from guilt and ends as a bargain made from fear.
Martin Luther King was a proven Communist, using the black civil rights movement, to start a Communist revolution in America. Nothing godly about him. And the big show between blacks and whites is in the post. It just hasn’t arrived yet…
He also beat his wife a lot.
She probably deserved it, wished we could do it to some of todays women.
Well I dont know the family but since todays black women are crazy maybe MLK was in the right.
Malcolm X > MLK. Undeniably in the brains department at least.
He still made a positive impact. That one famous speech was worth it. You simply need to hear a message like that when you’re considered to be a sub-human.
I believe it is a documented fact he was a plagarist.
Racism is purely a useful distraction for the elites to keep the middle-classes fighting each other.
The race-baiters know this, it’s their industry. Simply being a race-baiter makes you an elite of your community. You are elevated in the eyes of others when you are seen as “solving” these “problems”… problems that you yourself caused.
2015–racists are gone–move on people
Those white kids are going to take a black man’s job in the NBA and lynch them?
“Those white kids are going to take a black man’s job in the NBA and lynch them?”
So what percentage of black men in the NBA represent of the total population of the black American men?
To answer your question–they are not–they are going to turn into this kind of guy–and then they will probably get support from people like you–
Hah, such idiotic SJW’s in the crowd.
Do you know the difference between “racism” and “bigotry” ?
One is institutional, enforced by public organizations.
The other is individual.
One is unethical in a society attempting to give equal opportunity to all.
The other is freely allowable, because freedom of association is a basic freedom.
The OU chant was bigotry, not racism. Private organization, private rules and private feelings. Not your business.
Racism is phantom nonsense thrown out by the elites to keep the middle classes fighting each other. They convince large numbers of idiots like yourself that “bigotry” is “racism” and thus disallowed. They convince you that discerning what kinds of people you want to be around is not a fundamental right you have, and you bought it.
You’re a fool.
“Do you know the difference between “racism” and “bigotry” ?
One is institutional, enforced by public organizations.
The other is individual.”
Hey dumbass, do you know the history of the US?
“The OU chant was bigotry, not racism.”
But they turn into people like this guy–
“They convince large numbers of idiots like yourself that “bigotry” is “racism” and thus disallowed. They convince you that discerning what kinds of people you want to be around is not a fundamental right you have, and you bought it.”
You mean the same way mass numbers of your ancestors enslaved black Americans? The same way mass number of white people followed lynching, formed the kkk (was and still is) million strong?
Ok, fool–
Talking about this with SJWs like you is like arguing with a fundamentalist. Anything counter to your perspective is automatically racist. You might as well just turn in your claim to having an intellect, because all you do is parrot what other people tell you to. Enjoy ignorance, I’m sure it’s blissful.
In other words-can’t refute my points–the best response is to call names, and throw mud
G’day
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yep got it–you got no response–
Agree wholeheartedly.
Black women give great head
Well done, Mr. Sharpe!
Jews are to blame for both sides.
This might seem dopey, but my feeling is that right when civil rights and Vietnam were blowing up and blacks and whites were forced to mix through the end of segregation, but before the culture collapsed between the two, the draft ended. Military service, even outside of the boundaries of war, bonds men.
When I was out on the Nimitz dancing on the flight deck, I didn’t give a shit if the Ordnance tech arming Sidewinders on F-14s was Black, I cared if he was GOOD enough not to fuck up and blow our asses up. When we had a plane crash that killed 11 guys in 1981 (It’s Google-able, check it out, it was also the impetus for drug-testing in the military when all was said and done) and injured a hundred more, I didn’t give a shit that three of 5 or 6 guys on a 4″ fire hose line were Black or Mexican or Jews, I cared that they didn’t chicken out, drop the hose and jump overboard in the face of 75′ flames (they didn’t and amid the chaos, some of them paid with their lives). We had a few Black pilots, they were good. Well, they didn’t crash on the flight deck I was working on, so they were good enough for me.
My dopey point is, with the end of conscription, aside from losing the last hope of our men manning up as a society, we also lost good exposure to one another, that of men of different races working together with an interlocking, common interest and mission, that of staying alive. Respect for quality erases the concern for color when everyone’s ass is on the line. I think those lessons would have been carried throughout the society by men who passed through the military. Maybe that’s ANOTHER reason conscription ended. Pussify the men who would never serve and eliminate the possibility of tens of millions of men of all colors viewing one another through the prism of respect for quality instead of shades of white and black and brown and yellow. My opinions only, just a take, but guys that have served get it.
Dammit, wrote another article within a comment. Sorry, Roosh.
This is why I get along so well with blue collar white men. They act like men and even if they don’t typically mingle with other races, they will respect you as a man if you act like one.
They also tend to live outside of the city and maintain more traditional family culture, I bet that helps a ton. Won’t ever hear them complain about “miscegenation.” Probably because they’re with at least semi attractive white women who are feminine.
I liked this article so much. Thank you Donovan.
Yeah, Donovan’s a cool cookie.
Why am I I not allowed to reply to the featured comment?
Scroll down to the comment below, and reply there.
Why reply? It’s a hateful, cap-ridden rant.
I applaud Black racism. It’s a sign of a healthy people. I do however, reserve the same right for myself, and that scares the Saturday people.
I guess the featured comment speaks for itself.
What the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Louis Farrakhan of the world (so called leaders) need to do is LEAD. Stop playing that victim game.
If there is a negative stereotype about blacks, stand up and refuse to accept that. Prove to the world that the perception is wrong. Improve yourself and change what people think.
When you play victim, you lose hope. Don’t play that game!
I’m not sure why people forget that Mark Fuhrman, the policeman who found the bloody glove in the “OJ” case, invoked his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent to avoid incriminating himself when asked, “Did you plant or manufacture any evidence in [the O. J. Simpson murder] case?”
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-09-07/news/mn-43219_1_detective-mark-fuhrman
For the record Zimmerman is actually 5% black.
this article in itself is fueled with so much racism and bigotry. How can you say blacks are more racists when whites are still killing unarmed blacks for no justifiable cause? i have any roommates in college like you but i realize there is no point to argue but you should check out tim wise a WHITE MAN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc
If you look at stats whites&latinos are killed by cops with greater frequency then blacks.
where are the stats? i call bullshit bc blacks and latinos are disproportionate sent to prison when whites commit more crimes
Google any newspaper in any city, whites&latinos are always getting shot by cops. You need to see the outside world my friend.
The stats are there my friend, you are not worth the effort showing them to, all you did was post some shit from CNN LOL, and think you have some moral high ground and can call bullshit on anything
Part of that video is downright laughable. Cross the canal and join with the blacks who are eager to unite? That’s hilarious. He is right about the whites blaming blacks, but he is incredibly disingenuous in neglecting that the roles simply reverse when the race did. Blacks always have a ‘white person problem’. They aren’t eager to unite with the people they blame for their condition.
Its also funny how he glossed over the most directly responsible political entity to Katrina; the black Mayor Ray Nagin.
How can you say blacks are more racists when whites are still killing unarmed blacks for no justifiable cause?
Because blacks never kill whites for no reason, right?
Tim Wise suffers from a severe case of historical amnesia like every other academic with a PhD. in some recently concocted field. Every civilization or culture prior to the Americas killed or enslaved others with similar skin pigmentation. Yes, slavery and ethnic cleansing took place in both Africa and Europe prior to 1492. Wise and his ilk need to save that stuff for the teenagers… Killing and looting and slavery are not solely characteristics of “whiteness”.
the point was to prove that whites are the problem when it comes to race and not blacks. Whites created this problem through slavery, segregation, and bringing drugs in black/ latino communities and limiting the resources in these areas as well. as an Los angeles native segregation still exists bc of the SYSTEM that fueled by racism
Are you that historically naive? Please, tell me you are employing “irony”.
why isn’t Obama solvin da problemz den? rudeboy
U got ur man in da offiz, and ur men on cnn, so watz da deal? Wil da problem not b solved till all da wytes are poor an blakk?
Our system is supposed to be fueled by virtuous people. People of America, no skin color is exempt, have any idea what virtue actually “is”. White kids are just as lost as the black kids. You obviously don’t spend much time with the youth of America.
Malik if you think Trayvon was attacked by Zimmerman then you still have no idea what happened.
Jeantel herself said on the stand under oath that trayvon stepped out of the bushes and said “why you following me for?”. By this standard Trayvon was the aggressor and confrontor.
Moreover, black on white crime is tremendously higher than white on black, by miles and miles.
Blacks kill more blacks every year than white people do, including white police officers. But blacks are ok with blacks dying as long as it was not a white doing the killing. Even if the white was justified in doing it, they get creamed by the media and are presumed guilty based upon their being white and the racist blacks are all over it, Ferguson being the perfect example of the rampant anti-white racism.
So keep getting angry at the facts, but as of right now the whites are the biggest victims of racism and your race is full of the perpetrators.
“why you following me for?”. By this standard Trayvon was the aggressor and confrontor”
This would be the same guy holding the torch for Trayvon’s head if it was Trayvon following a white girl, and ended up killing her.
Seriously, I do wonder how many people think that Trayvon would be walking free right if he did what Zimmerman did to a white girl?
I am a teacher here in CA in our public schools; and academic success, clean presentation, and the use of manners are mocked by most African-Americans as being “whitewashed”. Academic success, manners, and clean presentation are “white”? These Cultural Studies people are academic goons and racial terrorists. Good is good, bad is bad.
haha you’re a teacher? surely you must know that the school system is broken and is part of the problem for african americans. if you really are a teacher in Ca i bet you are one of those teachers that don’t give a fuck about your black students but act like you like them in public.
Actually I’ve been thanked by African-American community leaders for helping with their school programs. My best friends are “black”… I am the only white coach on our school football coaching staff… All kids are failing in our schools because education is not a community serving value… Great job recanting your ignorant post. I was going to list the African Kingdoms that you are truly ignorant of.
you really used my best friend is black line. you’re a fuckin tool
Your use of an ad hominem attack reveals your lack of intellectual and reasonable tenacity… Let me guess, my black friends are all “white washed”. I truly hope you are a white kid trolling, looking to “stir the pot”. Please, read some Malcolm X.
So if a teacher says “Study chapter 2 there’s a test on Thursday” and Shaniqua doesn’t study, but sits around doing “Oh noes you dinnnt!” to her friends for the week, then fails the test, this means the school system is broken?
Huh.
It’s like this in tons of places. The person who posted right below this (Vita Owner) confirmed this. He’s black, he studied, got good grades and was told he was acting white.
Blacks like to pretend the system is broken, but blacks who apply themselves and take school seriously do well…it’s the black families and communities that are broken with their constant ostracizing and demeaning of other blacks who do manage to do well.
So you got a black president, black anchors and commentators sitting around with jew faggots on tv, earning nice money to sit around talking about what a big problem racism is, and pump that shit out to the masses, and you still think racism is actually a problem?
THIS IS AN OVER THE TOP SCAM. Wake up!!
Black people aren’t racist. They can’t be. Racism is a system, not an attitude.
Black people in America are xenophobic. Small difference, though
da system has a black president at da top ov it. Lukz like da wyte cant be raciss either. Or will wyte people b racyciss as long as der is more of dem, an as long as dey r smart, an az long as dey iz wyte?
Why are you talking to me in such a manner? I never declared either side wrong, I simply stated what I see as a given – language exists for a reason to convey specific meaning. Anybody can be racially prejudiced.
Of course blacks can be racist. Racism is not a system. That’s just liberal BS so one group can be accused of racism while another protected group cannot.
Ah the perils of being a black conservative.
The article is based off a poor understanding of the civil rights movement, and much poorer understanding of how the vast majority of black people view America fundamentally different from a collective standpoint. It’s also based on a misdiagnosis of what black people’s issue with racism actually is. It’s not just mere hatred…the Civil Rights wasn’t just a march against being called the N-word.
To a conservative for instance, the constitution and the bill of rights – documents written over 200 years ago, are meant to define the nation and the direction in which it goes. To a black person, who has any sense of history, the paradoxical realization is that that only applies to you if you’re black, as long as the majority white population consents to it…that’s reality, thus why the civil rights act had to be renewed.
A lot of the confusion comes from the mixture of progressivism in the movement and being caught up in the tide of the culture wars. Yet, the simple fact of the matter, is it doesn’t address the simple fact, that black people do not think the institutions in this country are going to protect their individual rights as American citizens, and have to live in a state of insecurity that the tide might change and the system can turn against them. Everything else you see is a consequence of that insecurity, which many who are conservatives ignore, because they believe that the events of fifty years ago are easily forgotten, while swearing on the relevance of a document written centuries ago.
That’s why OJ Simpson was celebrated, in a perverse sense it showed that “reasonable doubt” could apply to a black person when their was a ton of pressure to pronounce him as being guilty, just like it applied to Casey Anthony who has disappeared from historical relevance, since race had nothing to do with it. Of course, most black people suspect OJ did it, even back then…but like was displayed with Emmett Till, the American justice system is not bulletproof.
Black people don’t have the luxury of forgetting what many Irish Catholics, Italians, Jews tend to forget or not put an emphasis on, that in America, the constitution is only guaranteed when you have the power to make it so. And if you want to understand or expand on the black POV and how they relate to America, you should probably begin from there, that’s the only way to honestly understand it.
You sound like a jackson/farrakhan/sharpton endorser. All that mumbo jumbo is all typical. I don’t care what history you point out it’s wrong for any person of any race to celebrate the acquittal of a guilty person. Writing a long paragraph and citing the constitution and trying to sound intelligent doesn’t make you correct. Save yourself some time and just come out and say you don’t like whites and be done with it.
You’re missing the point…but what else should one expect, for someone who wants easy answers…to something, in reality, he really doesn’t give a damn about?
I could care less about any black leader, whom are all media creations, so people like yourself can “feel” like they know black people, when they actually do not. It’s easy to say you know how 40 million black people think when you can assign your knowledge to a couple TV stars who don’t actually have any significant following among black people.
And yes, believe it or not, the constitution and the attitude that black have towards it, is everything, since after all the constitution is what makes America, America. Ignoring that leads to the simplistic arguments you just made, and why little conversation on race is of any value.
So what you’re saying is blacks in this country have a right to be racist. Got it.
Probably the most insightful thing I read all day. The fact is that being a minority is actually a very alienating feeling, because on some level you must realize that even if everyone is nice to you, you only exist because you are allowed to. Black ppl really must feel like they are guests in this country, in many ways, and now that whites are becoming a minority (a mathematical inevitability) we too will become alienated. Then, who knows?
Like most things that happen in Black America i.e. the matriarchy or eugenics, they start off with black people, and then work their way down to everybody else and then end with the white guys.
This author is confusing racial bigotry with racism. Anybody can have prejudice or bigoted views about race. But only a small amount of people can actually practice racism. The average white person is not allowed to be a racist because they don’t have the power. Unfortunately black people direct their animosity towards the average white person. Anybody who thinks the KKK or The New Black Panthers pose a serious threat are simply misguided. One of the most important components of racism is to cause confusion among all the people who don’t understand it. I only care about racial views of the people who can manipulate the economy, media, education, law, and politics,to keep people at a substantial disadvantage in society.
Be honest, you are one of these people who will always be mad that black people aren’t as successful as white people, and won’t be happy until whites are dispossessed or replaced at the top or high up in the social and economic hierarchy. By any means possible, because it isn’t happening through legitimate competition.
You are a victim mentality SCHMUCK who can’t accept race differences and that blacks are at innate disadvantage because of low IQ, self discipline and a sick immoral culture, rather than some kind of racism. Jews and Asians neither need excuses, or affirmative action, despite the USA dropping nukes on japan, putting them in concentration camps during the war, killing millions of gooks, koreans, Iraqi’s etc and despite the worlds foremost historical problem supposedly being white anti-semites trying to genocide the whole jewish race. These people manage to prosper and achieve beyond even what the bulk of whites achieve. No excuses required.
If anything blacks have a more positive image in most non-blacks minds than their actions and achievements would justify, partly due to the fact they are all over the media, but also due to the innate non-racist nature of most whites. I’m not denying that there are smart and successful blacks, but you’ll find most of them see themselves as individuals and are happy with their own hard earned success rather than trying to drag their whole race up with them, or drag other races down, by crying racism. You are being bad or worse than the feminists with this shit.
Yes. Blacks are infinitely more racist, sexist and homophobic than non-blacks.
You know why? Because they’re allowed to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW1Ml_ncejU
i know right
Dumb-ass frat bros, bro-ing.
Yeah, that’s so much worse than the savages attacking white people for their opinions of that piece of garbage Mike Brown.
“Dumb-ass racists frat bros”
Fixed that for you–
“Yeah, that’s so much worse than the savages attacking white people for their opinions of that piece of garbage Mike Brown.”
nope–this is–
White people have scumbags too. Statistically they’re VASTLY less responsible for mindless murder than blacks upon each other. 90% of gun deaths in America are caused by blacks upon other blacks with illegals firearms in gang-related horseshit.
But the biggest difference between the two is that white people DO NOT martyr and support their scumbags as heroes the way blacks do. None of this “He was a gentle giant/GED/aspiring rapper/just getting his life together/hanging out with the wrong people…” crap.
Some thug piece of shit is killed WHILE SHOOTING AT THE COPS!!! and black people will still scream “He dindu nuffin!! ‘Dat was murder!!”
Get the fuck out of here! Don’t support the scum that drag your community down. Elevate the ones that want to help instead of calling them sell-outs and Uncle Toms.
Black people should start there.
“Statistically they’re VASTLY less responsible for mindless murder
than blacks upon each other.”
Please show me how VAST of a difference they are–like blacks commit 90% of the murders, and whites commit 5%, right? please back it up–
” 90% of gun deaths in America are caused by blacks upon other blacks with illegals firearms in gang-related horseshit.”
I’ll wait for you to back up your assertion–and please do tell what percentage of the black community do these criminals represent? Please do tell–
But if we were to go with your unsubstantiated claim, why is that the case?
“But the biggest difference between the two is that white people DO NOT martyr and support their scumbags as heroes the way blacks do.”
White Americans intellectual dishonesty on the race debate is mind-boggling–you live in a country that had the KKK–created laws that allow white people to lynch black with no consequences–what the hell is wrong with you? are you really that intellectually incapable of coming to the conclusion that there are in fact, more white people that support vicious murderers than there are blacks? the kkk is still in existence–it’s called America and it’s Army–
“Some thug piece of shit is killed WHILE SHOOTING AT THE COPS!!! and black people will still scream”
Yep–because anyone who shoots back at a cop is a thug–
Any movement by a black person is a crime in the eyes of those thugs you call cops
“Don’t support the scum that drag your community down.”
They do–but when they ask for protection-the cops just turn their backs on them–or mistreat them–so why should they say anything?
“Elevate the ones that want to help instead of calling them sellouts and Uncle Toms.”
They do, and did–how do you think Obama got well over 80% of their vote? Then again, you don’t live in a black community so how would you know? Why would any of it matter to you in the first place?
‘Yep–because anyone who shoots back at a cop is a thug–‘
Yes, they are.. And they DO deserve to die because anyone who attacks the police is contributing nothing to society.
Every civilisation that has existed since the beginning of recorded history has learned that attacking the police is wrong and will never end well for you.
Until now, apparently.
“And they DO deserve to die because anyone who attacks the police is contributing nothing to society.”
yep–because all cops are all benevolent–all cops are saints and everything that they do is correct–no matter if they run into a house to kills kids–for no reason–nope–no one is allowed to defend themselves against cops–cops are above, all our gods, we must fear them–
Jeez, do you people even hear yourselves?
“Every civilisation that has existed since the beginning of recorded history has learned that attacking the police is wrong and will never end well for you.”
except when there is an uprising against those cops by the society–i don’t need to go far–civil rights unrest, your civil war–go learn history Bob, and stop being so intellectually dishonest–
Those kids destroyed that bus and then ransacked the town? Of course they are idiots but destructive ones that lynched a black man?
Things wrong with the average blue pill (American) black man
1. Victim mentality
2. Likely to be raised by a single mother.
3.Lack of a healthy strong father/father figure in a family or community although I can (partially) blame the American prison industrial complex in this case.
4. Liberals and cultural Marxists including their government/media enablers reinforce the vitctim/ ‘poor me’ mentality and in the process usually end up blaming the ‘evil white man’
5. A culture of thuggism, reinforced by hip hop culture.
6. Worldstarhiphop.com
7. Anti-intellectualism
I have some African friends and some have disdain for the American Black man for whatever ignorant reasons. Fact is even the most conformist Africans in public have expressed their dislike or hatred pertaining to the portrayals of Africa as “backward” and backwater…such as “people living in huts” also stating that they hate when people generalize Africa and see it as a place where Civilization never happens. Or people with sticks through their noses who only know of tribal warfare. Same as the dislike of many blacks who don’t fit into the ghetto black culture even those who actually live in the ghetto. I wonder what your opinions are when an article like that appears here about the “Issues of Africa?
1. Victim mentality is a general term….that can be applied to many situations…I can say whites have a “victim mentality” because they complain that they can’t “voice certain opinions in public” which is even sillier when compared to real subjugation faced by others. You see how if you view things in this perspective you would see this behavior as the ultimate blue pill. but also being aware of certain inequalites that actually did or still exist is not victim mentatlity but awareness…this does not imply you will “give up” you can still work hard and have a productive life just with more self awareness. Is it victim mentality when Africans state that foreign intervention and artificial borders help sow internal civil wars and poverty?
2. Yes the single mother thing is a problem I agree, but this is starting to impact other communities as well, because of culture and especially because of economics…poorer families simply have a harder time sticking together.
3. Yes lack of fathers is also a problem relating to number two.
4. I can state poor ignorant whites are in the Republican “Plantation” as well. While they are exploited for their ignorant racist views the Republicans are giving “welfare” to Big Banks and corporations…see it works both ways.
5. thug culture is harmful for many youths I agree…but Hip hop is entertainment and their are many forms of Hip Hop including Conscious, Geo-Political, and intellectual Hip Hop unfortunately it is not aired on the public airways. Also other forms of entertainment have been falsely labeled as “dangerous” to the youth like Heavy Metal music etc.
6. Yeah worldstar is not a good website but it attracts what it attracts…just as dark and idiotic websites that other communities that whites and other races also flock too, idiotic entertainment like “JACKASS” was consumed by whites and other people as a form of mindless entertainment as well. On the other side of the coin there are many Black Intellectual websites but those sites will be criticized by a segment of this website’s readers as well…go figure.
7. Anti-Intellectualism is negative I agree and it takes a strong family and role models to counter this…but first you need the role models and strong finances.
I’m latino and when I was in the US, most of the whites treated me with respect and most of the blacks treated me with despise. I don’t really care about it, but this episode showed me the twisted mentality of the status quo in America.
Bear, Latinos and Blacks are as hateful to one another as Muslims are to Jews. It’s unbelievable.
Simple reasoning, and try this experiment, do not hate a black person and see if they can stand hating you. Just try it. I know it sounds weird but whatever hate you see from blacks is usually a fearful reaction. Keep your guard up sure. Never know how someone will take fear. But do not express any hate back. Watch what happens.
Sadly, I believe when a white person hates, when a spanish person hates, it is of the more permanent nature and from a greater less than approach. And why do Spanish hate blacks? Experience shows they want to be white and hate the black in them. Spaniards don’t have this hate. Nor do Europeans. This is White America Hate and Hispanic hatred from being brought over.
End of the day, former slaves hating former slaves because they don’t want to be linked with the current state slaves, American Blacks. Go figure. Still sound unbelievable?
Really? Why?
Which Latino group are you apart of? There are some Latinos who view black people negatively as well! Many Latinos put down Black Latinos within their specific nations as well as in general. Some Latinos prefer having relationships with white people to have whiter kids…of course this mentality is changing but this is true to a certain extent…you have to view the entire picture. Some Latinos prefer overemphasizing their White roots while at the same time minimizing their Black African roots. There are many layers to this…in fact not just Latinos but this idiotic behavior can be seen among Indians, middle easterners, and eastern Asians.
Black American people are actually aware of this even if they don’t directly tell you as well.
Yeah, I know. But what I am pointing out is that they are so hypocritical complaining about racism and at the same time acting like racists. Latino is not race, but you get what I am trying to say. The same idea could be applied to latinos living in America by the way. I really don’t care if someone is racist or not, but do not act like a victim when the opportunity arises.
Yo se que latino no es una Raza pero una cultura, solo que existe diferentes situaciones y tambien existe el racismo entre latinos.
Latino is not a race in general however within the Latino people e existed a wide variety of races….this also creates racism within that society…especially influenced by European colonialism placing whites on the top of the hierarchy…if certain people get slapped around I would think they would dislike the people slapping them around.
““Well we have it worse here because racism is covert. At least they keep it real over there and say it to your face.” This is actually true.
It is far easier to combat and deal with open racism/discrimination/terrorism than the covert kind. It is easier to bomb flag waving al qaeda and ISIS, than it is to stop the guy who hides his terrorist intentions and just blows up a plane or runs into parliment with a machine gun.. “The main reason I left after just 6 months my second time around was because of the black people.” Yeah nothing racist about that, clearly it was the black people who are racist not you. “The victim mentality, ghettos, criticism of anything not related to black culture, and a shitload of other things got old quick.” You have a victim mentality and are whining about anything not white enough for you. You are whining black people behave exactly like you do.
“What set the tone for my short stay was when a coworker of mine was on his usual soapbox about how black people were “oppressed” and that racism was at an all time high—the usual bullshit that people like him talked about ’round the clock.” Yeah rather than listen to someone who was being discriminated against, your solution was to tell them they aren’t. That surely will be effective. That is like me slapping you in the face and telling you it shouldn’t hurt that bad, the other guy I punched hhim in the mouth. “Another huge problem in Atlanta is that black people purposely separate themselves from other races. It seemed that they only associated with blacks whether it be socially, in their business dealings, religiously, or anything else they could think of. Even the shows they watch are predominantly black.”
Given you deny their experiences and essnetial call them ghetto, and victim mentality, is it any surprise you didn’t get invited out? And you moved away from Atlanta to get away from blacks so how can it be their fault you’d rather not deal with them? And white people in majority white cities do not seperate themselves from other races? They do not do business mostly with whites, go to white churches, or anything else you can think of. They don’t watch shows with predominantly white people? White people hate on kim k more than blacks do, and kim k aint even white.
Ok now I know for sure this is a troll post. ““Why can’t you find a nice African-American girl, Donovan?”” No black family would say that, donovan s white dude trolling all of us. article is garbage through and through not an iota of truth in it. Black racism kills people, sure, if black racist really could kill people, you think george zimmerman could walk the streets? The fact that george zimmerman could murder a black child and walk away scott free simply shows you black people have no power and are not racist, and if they are, their racism is completely ineffective at hurting white people. George Zimmermna lives in a mansion.
I hate that you are the voice of reason in these parts but I love your no nonsense approach at picking racist agendas apart piece by piece. Thanks for the post!
im not playing victim at all but you can’t tell me most people in the USA start off the same in life.
No, any black person who thinks whte have an advantage or doesn’t think blacks are somehow more racist than whites is a black reverse racist.
I started out the great grandson of a sailor, the grandson of a sailor, the son of a sailor and I was a sailor. Pretty low in life and truthfully, I probably peaked in terms of nobility to others in my twenties. But by God, anyone would say I was advantaged and privileged solely because I’m white. We’re supposed to be SO beyond the race card at this point. Sucks that it never ends.
“We’re supposed to be SO beyond the race card at this point”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW1Ml_ncejU
I know right–racism is over–we’re so beyond that–it’s 2015 people
black racism is talking while white racism is 25 to Life
Just leaving here:
https://unqualifiedreservations.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/why-i-am-not-a-white-nationalist/
Towards the end it talks about the death toll for whites killed by blacks
I wasn’t going to comment on this but who really gives a fuck….
To answer the Question,
NO, BLACK PEOPLE AREN’T MORE RACIST, THAN WHITE PEOPLE
and
NO, ALL WHITE PEOPLE AREN’T RACIST
These are TOPICS that NEEDS to DIE,
EVERYONE has PREJUDICES and PREFERENCES and SHIT THEY HATE
WHO GIVES a SHIT,
I HATE WHO HATES ME… I AM NOT LOOKING TO BE ACCEPTED… I WONT TURN THE OTHER CHEEK
Blacks live in a fictional world, where evil whitey is killing them and they are victims. This fictional narrative is encouraged by the medias who make every story of cops shooting a black criminal in the front page, and portrays the thug as some innocent. But the reality is that whites are victimized in violent crimes from blacks, at epidemic rates.
http://conservative-headlines.com/memorial-wall-black-on-white-murders-in-2014/
This group managed to find that 406 whites were murdered by blacks in the US in 2014, with evidence on each case. This number is much higher than the number of whites murdering blacks.
It does no good to point out statistics. You have to change your mindset. Understand you are going in the earth. If a Black or anyone else harms me or my family, they will be paid back 100 fold. If Blacks want war, I’m all too happy to give them what they want. Stop being so tethered to the sensual pleasures of this sick society. If my cheek gets slapped I’ll take your head in return.
Where do I begin with this article? Before I begin let me say that Racial Hierarchy and Modern Racism was based heavily on European Pseudo-Science and justification for their savagery during slavery and colonization. Not ALL Europeans agreed with this but these racist voices prevailed, now what this author is scrutinizing is the reactions to the historical aspects and modern day policies still under implementation directly and indirectly. First let me state how many in this sphere love to see and hear a Black man say the things he wrote here and are quick to say others dislike someone else having their own opinion. Fact is everyone has their own opinions on such issues, but on the other hand many here also dislike those who they term “white liberals” as well. Fact is people like Donovan are the same people who are happily accepted into Right Wing Media to be used as a mouthpiece to justify many of their one-sided views and points. Also these so called “minorities” who go to right wing media seem to be the most judgmental of their own communities.
1. He shows a picture of the Black Panthers, first of all the Panthers and other movements were a REACTION to Society putting blacks and other groups down who were not White Anglo Protestants…yes Irish and Italians were also put down but not to the degree of Black people and even an element of the Irish and Italian put blacks down and caused Inequalities in the Justice System as well. Again those racial riots by those white groups which still to this day SET THE RECORD FOR BRUTALITY making the worse elements of FERGUSON SEEM LIKE SESAME STREET. Look it up for yourself! This is not “victim mentality” like many here like to mindlessly say but actual factual truth, which is hidden because its hard to see in cold numbers. The Black Panthers are NOT the same as the KKK….the KKK were supported SYSTEMATICALLY at the local and higher levels of our Government and inflicted real physical pain and death on Blacks in this country and positive propaganda about them was even applauded by President Woodrow Wilson. President’s used racial slurs and enacted real pain on internal minority populations as well as External brown and black nations. Yet many of you whine about President making a mild P.C. statement about Trayvon Martin…Blue pill if I ever seen it.
2. The author is using the same Idiotic talking points the right loves to use. First of all black protesters denounced INEQUALITY under the Justice System…they ARE NOT supporting actual Criminals. Black on Black Violence is bad so is White on White Violence. But a certain dynamic white criminals on Black or Brown Victims HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH THE CRIMES HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES IN OUR HISTORY. These are cold hard facts. Black Criminals GO TO JAIL even when they are not criminals and HAVE NOT COMMITTED A CRIME! Again Blacks also denounce Black on Black crime…you CAN DO BOTH for some reason many people feel a person cant think about various issues at once! COPS even in the most heinous killings DON’T fail to even go to TRIAL 9 out of 10 times and I need a decimal figure because this fractional figure is Conservative!
3. How many cases can you name where a Black Criminal kills a white man and gets away with it because of a Racist Jury and Judge, I bet you can’t but I surely can bet the house I will fill up a book. Which BRINGS me to OJ Simpson….first of we dont know if he actually killed her…if he did and got away with it, it wasnt because of a racist jury and judge thats for sure and if he got away with it no one would cheer. What Donovan fails to realize is that many black people know the historical and current narrative I laid out for all of you in point number 2…that’s why many “celebrated” it was a now you might have a little view into our world all these generations!! But of course many hear will use mental gymnastics to try to justify it in their heads. Personally if he killed her I would wish for full justice on the man, and even if he didn’t do it as the verdict said he didn’t he is still paying for it now indirectly.
4. He lists examples where Black Women dislike White females. First of all White females in the upper class and middle class created western “feminism” which many of you here complain so vehemently about ironically, brown and black women were never the protected class in the Anglo American system. Although “equality” and protection for women had existed since the beginning of civilization anyway. (I want to stress that I do agree with many of First Wave Feminism and what it created my issue is with elements of Third Wave Feminism). Black Women have always been judged much harsher than their white counterparts even by their white Feminist counterparts who claim that all women should work together. Their natural curves were seen as not beautiful and beastly but they naturally get annoyed when white women now have taken aspects of the curves and its now considered ‘beautiful.’ This is one way of looking at it. There have been articles on this forum about how White Women HATE TO SEE WHITE MEN WITH ASIAN WOMEN. Why doesn’t Donovan write about that since he is involved in this space?…Obviously we can all read and know previous writings and thoughts on issues. Its the same when White males talk about unfairness on how they are portrayed but cash in on Foreign Women who many have been brainwashed to think White is the best thing because of their colonial history. (Again women and men have natural preferences this is natural and different than what I am talking about!)
5. He lists his personal examples failing to list (maybe to pander to this audience)that blacks associtate with themselves. THERE WAS A STUDY THAT SAID WHITES HAVE THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF ONLY ASSOCIATING WITH OTHER WHITES, so called minorities have more experiences in general with other races and cultures. In my community I can easily bet we have more cultural awareness than most people who frequent this forum does from childhood…does this author not read or aware of his surroundings? lol Maybe he is and is just pandering which in that case he does well! In my experiences I have seen plenty of racist whites in my day to day life, I also have seen lots of good white people who I am friends with…bottom line I don’t state one sided points of views. Personal experiences I have seen was a black male I saw dating a white female and he was actually good and honest to her, but her father didn’t want her with him and did everything to sabotage his relationship despite his honest and great treatment of this young lady, he finally succeeded when the white father threatened to DISOWN HIS OWN DAUGHTER…leaving devastating this young man. Honestly I tried to explain to him to be aware of this possibility.
6. This statement from Mark Cuban this author quoted: “If I see a black kid in a hoodie and it’s late at night, I’m walking to
the other side of the street. And if on that side of the street, there’s
a guy that has tattoos all over his face–white guy, bald head, tattoos
everywhere–I’m walking back to the other side of the street.”
Maybe I have a different perspective but a black kid in a hoodie is far different than the white dude with tattoos all over his body..but then we might see what kind of tattoos he has (like white racist tattoos and the geographic location).
7. Now I would LOVE to debate this man Donovan first of all the statement about Bin Laden…personally I think the guy is a criminal and was responsible for thousands of innocent American Deaths…but I can make a great an very simple argument of why the events of Septemeber 11th happened and the simple fact called “Blowback” Europe and America’s interventionist polieies in Latin America and the middle east for hundreds of years caused Bin Laden and his philiosophy to induce thousands of young people who have seen many “Sept 11th’s” in their lifetimes and have seen their families, wives sons, daughters, brothers killed by Western Policies directly and indirectly for generations. This impacts people’s Actions Today!! So this little idiotic statment like “it happened 40 years ago” seems even more idiotic when you put things into perspective.
8. Also he pinpoints “ghetto culture” not everyone in the ghetto is a bad person or criminal it is just that the worse elements paints a bad picture on the entire ghetto as well as greater Black America..yet many here complain that we judge “All whites” when we point out real inequalities in the Justice System…ironic. If I painted the entire white community by the trailer park and their drug use and criminality, or suburban white communities (like in northwestern Massachusetts) addicted to medical drugs, (and many of them don’t even face poverty or slim opportunities like an portion of black people do!) many whites would also feel angered by this.
9. Many people here like to say “My family were treated bad we were Irish, Scottish we came here with nothing.” Yes they had it hard but STILL had it BETTER THAN THAT BLACK FAMILY WHO ARRIVED. MANY WHITES WERE GIVEN STOLEN LAND TAKEN FROM MURDERED OR EXILED PEOPLE, talk about WELFARE ON A MURDEROUS AND LARGE SCALE LIKE THE HOMESTEAD ACT. This also gave white people a massive head start. This is the basic truths. Texas was TAKEN from Mexico through armed revolt because they broke the rules and brought Black Slaves ALREADY OUTLAWED IN MANY PARTS OF LATIN AMERICA before the EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION.
10. Yes around the world aspects of racism are worse than it is in America currently and more direct and open, so whats the author’s point? I am also aware of that and disdain that practice as well.
And finally on Donald Sterling the author stated if he was Black he would’ve “kept his team,” again he FAILS to MENTION that the P.C. SOCIETY IMPACTS BLACK PEOPLE AS WELL!! If a Black person with certain responsibilities states racial slurs and ignorant thoughts he or she will also get into trouble and face outcry, this is different than a measured balanced criticism of certain injustices in society.
In conclusion this author made some points without seeing the other side of this unbalanced coin. I can also state countless of negative behavior and ignorant comments made by white people in my personal experiences or much easier…I can turn to ignorant conservative media types who also make unbalanced comments and also write my very own article. For all his criticisms on the Panthers..they never inflicted pain upon others like the KKK and other Neo-Nazis have and do, and the Panthers was a REACTION to the inequalities faced in western society. Donovan you use all the little token words and base your writing on people who don’t debate you on the issues and the layered complexities of society, You have have to try much harder.
Third Eye, you’re WAY too involved with Conservative media, which is as dopey as Left-Wing media. Don’t be involved with U.S. media too much. Each branch is an opinion, not journalism. Hell, I read a lot of Washington Post. However, with the omission or addition of a couple of words, they deliberately slant even “hard” reportage on the front page. Obama’s Libya adventures, IRS, Fast and Furious, Hillary’s emails, Kerry’s taxes, they tilt the table minimizing the sins of the Left. All are actions which if taken by the Republicans of Bush would be an outcry of scandal to equal Watergate. And that’s their hard reportage and that’s why no one in the region has the Post hitting the driveway anymore and THAT is why advertisers are gone and THAT is why the Post is dying.
Forget Fox, they’re pro-war, pro-life, pro-anything that involves more crackdown and more law enforcement and more war and more advantage for banks, Wall Street and business no matter the ultimate cost to the rest of the country. And they don’t offer honest hard reportage either. You simply have to get off Fox, CNN/MSNBC. Forget that media.
Alternative media, the Op/Ed writers of every stripe, read all of them, Left and Right. Read the characters of Roosh. It’s hard reportage. I’ve called bullshit a few times, I can’t stand that guys write decent pieces under fake names. There are others that link out from here. Read Brietbart, read Wall Street Journal. Touch base with Drudge Report once a day, it has every known publication on the planet linked. Read MidEast News, read the European papers, read the Jerusalem Post of Israel. Get your news from many sources, most of it from overseas and you’ll have balanced media and it’s all free. But the Left and Right media in the United States? It’s worth a browse, but read between the lines very carefully.
And lose the caps, would ya, Fella? You’re beginning to rant.
Actually I rarely watch Fox and mainstream News…the words themselves are not a rant…rant implies that a person is not bringing up good points..the reasons for the caps is because in a long passage it is a way for the readers to focus on the sections I think are of higher importance. Thanks.
Hey Donovan on your last point on black comedians making light jokes about whites and that whites cant do the same this clip sums my view perfectly. You and Dr. Carson can share a “laugh” lol
To be blunt, black racist, are just as racist or even more racist than white racist. If you grow up in the black community, especially if you’re a black male, you’re expected to have to a herd mentality. You can’t win on either side of the spectrum. If you’re not promoting ignorance, you’re not a really nigga. You have to play the race card to appeal to white liberals and black race baiters. If you’re the complete opposite in which you have your shit together, you’re a sellout and race traitor.
Also Ben Carson will never win the Republican candidancy for all his intelligence in his field he dumbs it down for his conservative supporters. He is not disliked or Hated because his views its because he paints an ignorant picture of his own community. Carson for example did what many here incorrectly do paint feminism, breakdown of family, gay marriage and the such on people who vote Democrat or lean progressive! Stating support of breakdown of the church and open to gay marriage by black liberals…this is idiotic many blacks are liberals but are actually heavily into the church and believe in traditional marriage…that is why many dislike him.
Also the author should note that yes Dr. Carson is disliked by many blacks for his views but also Michael Pfleger a white priest and activist who supports many of Jeremiach Wrights views was blasted by Fox News and conservative media and called the “Eminem” of Priests and social commentators. The author makes it a point to say that many blacks dislike Dr. Carson why not write why many in the conservative white world have hatred for Michael Pfleger who is white and speaks honestly on black history and current black issues? Again these are the same people who call Obama an “Apologist” for simply stating historical and geo political truths perhaps these people feel more comfortable with ignorant flag waving. By the way Fox News failed heavily interviing Michael Pfleger, because they actually had someone who expressed his views calmly and straight to the point and they couldn’t spin the story the way they wanted.
From hindsight we probably should have listened to those Southern white racists in the 1950’s and 1960’s who warned us that desegregation and the civil rights movement wouldn’t work out in the long run.
I grew up in Tulsa in the 1960’s and 1970’s, and I realize now that the ruling class subjected my generation to a program of propaganda, shaming and bullying to make white Southerners, especially, feel bad about ourselves. For example, a rational society wouldn’t have made such a huge deal out of Harper Lee’s pathetic novel and required us to read it in school, much less watch the film adaptation. A responsible Atticus Finch would have saved his money and planned so that this children could go to college and get jobs in predominantly white parts of the country, up North or out West, instead of spending their lives among resentful and cognitively inadequate blacks in the South.
Well, I reject that brainwashing now. I feel myself getting more Southern as I grow older.
If there’s any hope for the U.S., it’s in middle America and the south.
This question isn’t even related to the topic, but do white people really feel bad about themselves? I find that really hard to believe and I’m not implying that they should.
I think there is a lot of acting or faux indignation about the plight of blacks from whites out here because it’s PC and it gets votes etc.
In my early 20’s, I worked in a cell phone store. Our clientele at that location was largely black. It was only then that I saw what Donovan is talking about first hand. Now, customers of all races became belligerent after making unreasonable demands that I wasn’t allowed accommodate, but if it was a black client, the first thing they did was to call me racial slurs right to my face and dare me to fire back. I took offense to this, not because my feelings were hurt, but because if the roles were reversed, I would’ve probably ended up in a fist fight or worse.
As far as O.J. goes check out:
O.J. Simpson – Guilty But Not of Murder by William C. Dear.
Dear is a PI and an inductee into the Police Officers Hall of Fame.
He makes an excellent case that OJ covered up for the real killer.
Dear went to crime scene and later gathered physical evidence.
Ron Goldman could have kicked OJ’s arthritic ass. The physical evidence shows that the murderer was in a prolonged struggle with Goldman.
Here’s the short version: http://uk.businessinsider.com/oj-simpson-murders-and-jason-simpson-2014-6?op=1
Speculation on causation: it’s because blacks lean heavily Liberal (and/or Liberals propagandize blacks for their votes), and Liberals are incredibly racist at their core; their ‘anti-racism’ is a cover for the fact that they’re utterly obsessed with race.
Once Liberalism infects a community, it starts relying upon the same social shaming tactics used by SJWs. What blacks need is more leaders like MLK and Bill Cosby to pull them forward in a positive direction – but whenever somebody tries to do that, the chattering mobs descend upon them. Misery loves company, after all.
In the present day society, the Leftist/SJW mobs will praise anyone who’s as degenerate as they are; like crabs in a bucket they’ll drag you down, but once you’re down you’ll have your own Pride Parade and free government cheese. Try and strive for something better, and not only will nobody be supporting you, you’ll suffer vicious slanders and attacks on top of it.
Among the liberals, you find the same White Man’s Burden supremacist mentality from centuries past. “We have to save the other races from themselves and bring them to our level.” At no time in history have white people ever been able to leave the other races alone to solve their own problems.
“White Man’s Burden” is simply a justification for the brutality inflicted on the people the Europeans colonized, also a way to appease their fellow whites who disagreed with their brutal and racially motivated practices. In simple terms Mental Gymnastics on a grand scale.
The problem with liberalism is it assumes an external locus for criminal behaviour. It never boils down to a personal decision; they always resort to speculation.
He wouldn’t have committed a criminal act if… he wasn’t poor… white people were nicer to him… he didn’t play violent video games.. etc. Essentially it denies moral agency. This is why the focus has shifted to ‘institutionalized racism’. There are not nearly enough white people being overtly racist to explain the current condition of the black community so the system MUST be racist.
If you read closely you’ll hardy hear condemnations about white racism. Now it’s white privilege. We’re not racist but we can’t appreciate how racist THE SYSTEM is. Meanwhile blacks are able to assume this mentality and claim all their hatred of whites is a reaction to this racism. So there’s no notion of personal responsibility, only group responsibility (of which they claim the black community has none).
I know this article was simply a click and bait–so I’ll bite
I never wanted to be like this, but I am utterly disgusted by most blacks–especially most American blacks. Anyone who can respect their culture after the Ferguson non-incident, and watching South Africans this week literally throwing their poop at something they didn’t like, has a screw loose in their minds.
I get why they are angry–I would be too if my race was the absolute bottom of the social totem pole–but that does not justify violence or hatred towards whites (who have done practically nothing but try to help them) or not even trying to succeed or making something of themselves in life.
Even South Africans are begging the whites to come back because they realize they have no chance of maintaining a stable civilization on their own.
Oh, and wait until the Chinese get there. That should put “evil white colonization” in perspective.
You have incorrect historical “facts in your head” for example further below you say the first black slave owner was a black man….how many times have I seen this idiotic statement on the internet it is a shame many distort the intricacies of that case…also your inner hatred is glaringly obvious and pathetic.
Ha! The Chinese are a very racially healthy people. They won’t let being called a name stop them. When it comes to claiming Africa and Chinese living space there will be no Colonialism, because there will be no Sub-Saharan Africans. China will just double in size.
Want to commend Donovan an excellent post! This article hits home for me. Especially the honest look at the black community who beat much of the fault. Growing up black in a white neighborhood was hard and I’ve heard all the ignorant and racist remarks out there from every race. Thought I would share my experience:
I did well in school but I never had any black friends. I was shunned for being “too white” and “good at school”. Was called a “wanna be white boy” for being in honors classes over and over again from middle school throughout high school. Any kind of measure of success not from sports or rmusic was dismissed by my fellow black students as acting white. The same thing happened to my mother during the early 60’s. And it continues to this day as Donovan and commenters discussed.
As long as the black community discounts hard work, education, and academic success and rewards ghetto culture, crass consumerism, and female hypergamy – it will never succeed.
FYI – I’m new to the Red Pill and had my connection to the Matrix severed last fall. Want to thank ROK, the authors, and all of you commenters for speaking your minds.
Good luck!
Thanks!
Shut the fuck up you coon. You are not part of the black race you Tom.
Yes
On another note scraped from the idiotic historical fallacies that is Conservative Internet. The incorrect Fallacy that the first Slave Owner was a black man (Anthony Johnson and the Casor Case)….how many of you have seen these idiots incorrectly use Conservative idiotic websites without doing their own research first…how many have had to read that idiotic statement over and over again. Every time time you see an idiot or misinformed person write or say this please correct them as follows! And do this EVERY SINGLE TIME everywhere you see it!! Even As indentures White and Black indentures were treated and punished differently from the beginning of the first English settlement at Jamestown and after the events of Bacon’s Rebellion…now lets take these mental midgets to task.
“Though Casor was the first person declared a slave in a civil case, there
were both black and white indentured servants sentenced to lifetime
servitude before him. Many historians describe indentured servant John Punch as the first documented slave in America, as he was sentenced to life in servitude as punishment for escaping in 1640.[16][17]
The Punch case was significant because it established the disparity
between his sentence as a negro and that of the two European indentured
servants who escaped with him (one described as Dutch and one as a
Scotchman). It is the first documented case in Virginia of an African
sentenced to lifetime servitude. It is considered one of the first legal
cases to make a racial distinction between black and white indentured
servants.”
Donoghue, John (2010). “Out of the Land of Bondage”: The English Revolution and the Atlantic Origins of Abolition”. The American Historical Review.
Russell, 29
A popular lie going around the Internet Is the first slave was owned by a black man named Anthony Johnson
“Before the decision of Johnson vs. Parker in 1654 slavery existed in many parts of the territory
that would eventually become the United States of America. The earliest
forms of outright chattel slavery were practiced by the Spanish in
Florida in the mid 1500s. That predates Johnson vs. Parker by 100 years.
Understanding that, you’d have to adjust your claim to say that Anthony
Johnson was the first slave owner in the “English Colonies”. However,
this claim is also FALSE!
In 1641, Massachusetts legalized
slavery with their Massachusetts Body of Liberties. This charter
specifically defines that a person could be owned if they were captives
of war, willingly sold themselves or were sold to a person, or if they
were judged to servitude by authority, meaning a sentence resulting
normally as punishment for a crime. Connecticut also legalized slavery
in 1650. Both of these instances occurred before 1654. So now you have
to supplement your claim with “first slave owner in Virginia” yet, as
you’ve likely discerned, this is still NOT true.
In 1640, the
General Virginia Court ruled on the Emmanuel case. Emmanuel was a negro
who attempted to run away with fellow white servants. Their plan was spoiled and they were all sent to trial. The white servants
got whippings and had their time of service extended. The Negro,
Emmanuel, received whippings and was branded with an “R” on his cheek,
but was given no additional time of service. Historians believe he
received no additional time because he was already a slave for life, and
thus couldn’t be sentenced to serve any additional time. So now we have
to change the claim to “Anthony Johnson was the first ‘legally
recognized’ slave owner in Virginia.” Yup, you guessed it, this is still
WRONG.
Also in 1640, 3 runaway servants were captured and tried
in Virginia County Court by their owner Hugh Gwyn. 2 of them were white
and 1 of them was a black man named John Punch. The 2 white servants
received lashings and had their contracts of indenture extended. John
Punch, however, received a harsher punishment. On top of 30 lashings,
John Punch was reduced from his former status of limited time servitude
to being enslaved for the remainder of his life. This is actually the
first legally recognized instance of slavery in the English Colonies and
it occurred 14 years before Anthony Johnson and John Casor. Thus, Hugh
Gwyn is actually the first legally recognized slave owner in Virginia
and the English Colonies. The records of Emmanuel and Punch show not
only that Negroes were treated more harshly than their white
counterparts convicted of the same crime, but also that Negroes were
being reduced to lifetime servitude which is the key aspect of how
historians define slavery in the colonies vs. indentured servitude.”
Also another thing about the O.J. Trial, the statements by many people “oh my I am not proud of our Justice System its broken it doesn’t work.” Welcome To the club its been happening to black and brown people for hundreds of years in hundreds of thousands of cases. where were those voices whenever a White criminal got away with killing black people because of a racist judge and jury and KKK influenced cops and politicians all the way up to the President himself. You see this dynamic historically is the reasons behind the protests not “because they are supporting criminals.” There is a shift in the conversation, this is the perfect example of the reactions of whites if the roles were reversed…if they feel “ashamed of our Justice System” in ONE case…They would have already burned the Country down a long time ago comparatively. White Racist rioting in this country’s history makes Ferguson look like Romper Room, whites burned not their own neighborhoods but BLACK neighborhoods and killed innocent blacks while the police LOOKED away. This is what we are talking about a simple google search will show hundreds of cases of White Racial Violence and you see the major differences…looting a store which was denounced by most Black and overall Protestors pales significantly in comparison. But many here cant connect the dots. And this author’s pathetic analysis either shows deep ignorance or successful pandering, or both.
It almost worked too, until the egalitarians got into office. we shoulda sent ’em all to Liberia with the rest.
its still white people fault, I’ll explain why when you grab a group of people and enslave them or beat them in a war like the Mexicans, you just expect in a couple of years it’ll be ok. Being black myself I don’t like the average black person I run into for reasons stated In this article. Hey it’s your fault you wrote the constitution and it said all men you would have been In a lot better spot if they had honestly foreseen that there great grandson would go soft and let the blacks free. Now blacks can vote and it literally is a bad day becuase they literally don’t care about the country at all. Some would say how can you hold that opnion being a black male yourself. Let’s reverse the roles and the Africa gets the Renaissance instead of europe, would they had conquered the whole earth undoubtedly they would have, would they have enslaved whites ,Asians, and any other race they came in contact with. And years later whites would after having been freed and allowed to vote doing the exact same thing blacks are currently doing, being bad citizens. You can elect Obama, it won’t placate them, the Mexicans feel the same way oh you beat us in a war and took California well we will just cross the border and set up Mexicali, giving them billboards in espanol is just making them bolder. And our leaders just think all these races are supposed to mix and be happy blacks literally hate white people so do Mexicans and the Arabs and the Chinese and whoever else america beat in a war.you think you can just give them a happy meal and say sit down and be happy with you president or espanol billboard or sharia law, these people don’t want to be american at all. I’m not happy to say this im just telling the truth you were better off with segregation becuase most races do it anyway, China town, Koreatown, deer field, the list goes on and on.
Secession and a permanent separation of the races is the way forward. Multicultural society is a recipe for disaster.
That even won’t fix it. We are at the point where we will turn tail and run for anyone, blacks were just first and the system they protested was flawed and bigoted but it caused us to open the door to everyone. The gays and people we know don’t want to really be Americans. They have a taste for blood and it doesn’t even take much just go stand In a street and wave a sign and you’ll get what you want. In a few years nambla will have convinced enough dumb drug addled simpletons that they too deserve freedom. What do you mean we can kill almost 3000 children a day but they can’t rape them you might as well, we nambla need equality too And liberty and justice.
Actually martin was in fact minding his own business. He was talking on the phone, walking to his father’s place when he was stalked by an armed man who assumed he was a burgler becuae he had his hood up and was taking in his surroundings.
Then said armed man took it upon himself, over there advice of trained professionals to confront Travon who was, I repeat, minding his business walking to his father’s place while on the phone with his friend.
Trayvon viewed the armed man who was following him as a threat and made a fateful decision to engage him. He lost that engagement but let us be crystal clear that TRAYVON was the ONLY person minding his business posing no threat to anyone’s person or property. It was Zimmerman who made a series of decisions about Trayvon that precipitates that event.
Couldn’t agree more.
Trayvon Martin’s response to the person who was following him was an exaggerated reaction. He perceive Zimmerman as a threat and proceeded to beat him to the ground. Zimmerman fearing for his life used his weapon to defend himself which is his right.
The media in an effort to fan the racial flames immediately seized upon the story as a Black White issue. Zimmerman who’s mother is Hispanic was referred to by the media as a White Hispanic. A term rarely used by the media to describe anyone. This was done to keep the narrative of white on black violence which apparently is an epidemic.
You will never hear the media describe President Obama as a White Black, he is always referred to as a Black man, The president even had the audacity to say if he had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin but in reality the President has more in common with Zimmerman who is half White.
Lets be honest though, the only people that know exactly how these events unfolded up until Martin was shot, were the two involved.
You can call Martins actions “exaggerated” but that’s your opinion. Martin isn’t alive to describe how he was approached.
Even if I were to entertain your assertion that Martin’s reaction to Zimmerman was “exaggerated” it does not negate the fact that unlike what was claimed in this piece, Martin was IN FACT minding his own business, talking on the phone with his friend and observing his surroundings.
Secondly since we do not know exactly what happened because we don’t have any witnesses nor is the dead man able to speak, we simply do not know what kind of threat Martin perceived Zimmerman to be. We DO know that he thought Zimmerman was creepy. We do not know how much more alarmed Martin got after he discovered that the “creepy” man who was following him in his car, was now following him on foot.
I can only speak for myself but I don’t take being followed by someone on their car lightly. I will consider them a threat to my life if they then exit the vehicle to follow me. I may or may not lay hands on them depending on what vibe I get from them, but I certainly will not fault the person who is being stalked for being alarmed for being stalked (which by the way, in Florida is a criminal offense).
Also, post trial, we know that Zimmerman has a habit of flashing his gun when he is agitated. It may be pure speculation at this point, but it is not unlikely that he did in fact flash his weapon when he and Martin met face to face. Of course the jury would not know this and therefore could not have considered that in their deliberations, but I mention it because it is in fact relevant if we are going to discuss that case.
That Zimmerman shot Martin in self defense is an undisputed fact. No less of a fact that a boxer in the ring is engaging in self defense when punches are coming his way. But the fact remains that the situation was created ENTIRELY by Zimmerman’s 100% wrong assumption that Trayvon was in the process of or planning to commit a crime. It was created when contrary to professional advise, he exited his vehicle for the purposes of stopping a non-existent crime, with his loaded (and apparently chambered) weapon with the safety off .
These were acts of gross negligence on the part of Zimmerman. No way around that.
All the other stuff you’re talking about with the media and whether Obama is black or not is totally irrelevant.
When you carry a weapon it’s supposed to be chambered with the safety off. You can’t very well shoot someone if there isn’t a bullet in the chamber. Every police officer in the US carries his weapon chambered with the safety off, if the weapon even has a safety.
Regarding the shooting case, the legal system had the opportunity to convict Zimmerman and the evidence was not there. In the end it was self defense.
I can see how this case causes a lot anger, but keep in mind who benefits from these divisive cases. The usual guys who show up make an appearance, a few speeches, and then they leave. Nothing changes poverty continues, unemployment continues, and no real effort to address the causes. No one mentions that immigration keep wages down in the US or that free trade is sending all our jobs overseas.
I wouldn’t worry to much about Zimmerman, he doesn’t know how to stay out of trouble it won’t be long before he goes to prison for something stupid. You’ll get your justice then.
” Every police officer in the US carries his weapon chambered with the safety off, if the weapon even has a safety.”
Oh wait…Zimmerman isn’t a police officer.
“Regarding the shooting case, the legal system had the opportunity to convict Zimmerman and the evidence was not there. In the end it was self defense.”
Because the state tried [badly] to prove a case it couldn’t prove when it had a case it could prove.
And in the end it was determined “not guilty” as in the state didn’t prove it’s case beyond reasonable doubt. And I agree with the jury because the state did not prove “malicious intent” beyond reasonable doubt.
There was however a lock solid case for criminally negligent homicide which the state did NOT press a case for.
As for “anger” the only thing I’m angry about is the constant portrayal of Martin as a criminal by certain people when the facts, as I will repeat, are that he was walking down the street as he was legally entitled to, talking to his friend on his phone, protecting his head from the weather and observing his surroundings when he was stalked by an armed private citizen who exited his vehicle against the advice of professional safety agents, with his gun with the intention of confronting a citizen who had and was not or planning to commit a crime.
That is what angers me.
At least have the decency to recognize that when discussing the case regardless of what you think of Zimmerman.
This is what I don’t get when people bash the guy. He didn’t start this shit. It was the fat, cowardly, wannabe cop that instigated the entire confrontation.
He didn’t know this guy from adam and somehow he had the right to be pissed off at a complete stranger who did absolutely nothing to him or anyone else. You could hear it in his voice when he was talking to police dispatch, he wasn’t going to leave the situation until he got the desired response.
He knew exactly what he was doing, athough it probably went farther than he anticipated.
Michael Brown? Completely different. I have no fucks to give over what happened to him.
This is true, but I don’t think anyone doubts that Zimmerman was an overzealous vigilante
The problem is when the media makes the case out to be one where Trayvon was killed because of his race, and that this was representative of a trend throughout the country
To me it just seemed like excessive force in an unfortunate situation
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Ahhh, Traythug Martin.
He could have just kept walking but he had to ‘keep it real’.
George Zimmerman is an asshole and a pussy. There is no way he ‘provoked’ Traythug into attacking him.
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it’s over people–racism is gone–cops are good–
Good article. I have personal experience in this matter.
I lived in a black majority east coast city for 5 years up until a year ago. I also lived in the most diverse neighborhoods within this city, interacting and working with African Americans for a large part of my stay.
When I moved to this city, I was a SJW/Obama voter/Bleeding Heart Leftist. By time I left i became a hardened traditionalist and race realist. My experiences in this city are directly responsible for me going Red Pill. Some people learn the truth from books. I learned from black mob attacks and the most dysfunctional, horrific black neighborhoods that make Africa seem pleasant. Some of my observations which parallel the author’s:
-Yes, blacks are more racist against whites than vice versa. I honestly did not have one negative thought about blacks when I moved to this city. I thought black stereotypes were “racist”. Despite this, blacks made it known to me that I was white, guilty, and at the bottom of their society.
-Blacks are violent even without motive. Every spring there would be black kids attacking whites once the weather was good. Some of these attacks were caught on video. One of my neighbors was attacked randomly and had his skull bashed in just for the heck of it. The desire to steal anything from the victim was second to their desire to inflict maximum harm and pain.
-Black communities (lower classes and sig portion of middle class) are dysfunctional. Politics consist of voting for whichever black will give them the most free stuff. You know all the rest: unemployment, single mommy ghettos, gang violence, etc. What I didn’t realize before moving to this city was how hopeless the situation is and how all their self-destruction is blamed on whites. Anyone who gives them tough, truthful love (Bill Cosby) is immediately shouted down. Blacks want to blame others.
-Blacks are obsessed with race. Again, when I first moved to this city, I didn’t “believe” in race. Didn’t think about it. Blacks think and talk about it all the time, but not in a good way. They have a chip on their shoulder and they’re always comparing themselves to whites.
-Affirmative action deteriorates the quality of institutions. Everyone knows this, but I saw it first hand as qualified white staff were replaced with unqualified blacks. Some of these blacks were able to talk a good game during interviews, but once it came to performance, they crumbled.
-Blacks segregate themselves and are most comfortable around their own kind. This applies at the micro level (office politics) and at neighborhood level.
Of course not all blacks are like this. There are stand outs who were able to escape the dysfunction and whom I respect, but what I saw in this city forever turned me against the concept of race equality and diversity-as-a-blessing. It also drove every ounce of white guilt out of me and led me to reexamine every single political belief I had, so in a way I’m thankful for the experience
What is that beautiful sound I hear? It’s someone breaking free of indoctrination and drawing conclusions for himself. Congratulations friend, hold this short video close to your heart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMNAOk1bMDw The point being, take responsibility for yourself and trust in direct experience.
When I first saw the title, I thought “Angry White Guy”. Then I read it, and I thought “Self-loathing Black Guy”. No doubt you are alienating many of your own race, and I think that’s unnecessary.
I do not believe blacks are, as a whole, particularly hateful. It’s just that Western culture permits tribalism from perceived victim groups, and not from dominant ones. “Favor the poor man” is dangerously unenlightened, but completely in line with White people’s own, bizarre, racial masochism. They shouldn’t do it, but don’t do this either.
Look, the truth is the left depends on dividing and pitting ethnic groups against each other so they get to play compassionate savior for minority groups, then use those groups as a demographic base to further their ideology. This occurs even if those minority groups are socially conservative immigrants who hold views they oppose.
Anti-feminism is a precious opportunity for traditionalists, rightists, realists etc of all backgrounds to form a united front against the left. This will not only crack their “Minority Solidarity” strategy, but it also forces them to choose between race and feminism. To do this, we should strike a balance – keep racial tensions within the alliance red pill but soft spoken.
For people who want to fight over race, do it after the equalists have been defeated.
Thank you! Why is it that every article I read about race is extremely bias? This guy obviously has some identity issues. I am so tired of racism and people putting the blame on each other. This guy is just making assumptions and stating his opinion with no factual research to back it up. As a black woman I have never despised white women. I could care less who one chooses to date because it has nothing to do with me. How could he sit here and judge blacks who choose to live and work around each other? Since they are racist then so are the whites who live in predominantly white neighborhoods. Oh and also Asians who live around Asians. Give me a break. Every race tends to live around people who share their same cultural background. There decision to do so or not is really nobody’s business. Eveyone should make a conscious effort to have close friends from all different backgrounds to be more well rounded.The bottom line is people need to stop being so critical and judgmental by determining who should be blamed.
thanks for copy pasting your paragraph again. let us know when u think of one original
Since I wrote the comment it is original. You’re welcome.
no, it lost originality the second time i read it. then its a re-read. not an original. see how that works?
Then don’t read it again. Oh and tell that to publishers of textbooks, journal, essay etc., where they update volumes with the same chapters/articles. By the way re-read just means to read something again. It has nothing to do with determining what is original or not. Have a good day.
Attention whore.
Maybe some of this anti-white racism comes down to blacks not wanting to acknowledge their community’s self-destruction.
Blacks make up about 13% of the US yet commit around 40% of all murders, and almost all of those murder victims are other blacks. There are about 450 abortions for every 1,000 live black births.
The question is, “why?” Why does the black community engage in such self-destructive behavior? It just makes no sense.
I remember watching an interview with Thomas Sowell, where he described growing up during the Depression in Harlem. He said that when he was a boy he would walk down to the newstand in the middle of the night to get the latest baseball scores, but his parents never worried about it because it was perfectly safe. Try doing something like now and see what happens.
No offense, but “The sad part about this is that those two black girls were too young to dislike the white girl simply because of her pale skin.” is bullshit. Racism is natural, not learned. Survival instincts indicate you regard strangers with distrust because they may want to kill you, and nothing says stranger more than obvious differences of appearance.
I’m black. Not racist though. I don’t have a lot of black friends. Also, black people are their own worst enemy. We riot when police shoot us, but what about the real problem? We kill each other off more than any other group.
Yup, 50% of all murders are blacks and of those, around 90% are black on black (men on men). So basically 3% of the population (black men from 15 to 35) make up nearly 40% of those murdered and doing the murdering. The stupid drug war in the US doesn’t help.
Fantastic article. Needed to be said. Thank you Donovan.
Why is it that every article I read about race is extremely bias? This guy obviously has some identity issues. I am so tired of racism and people putting the blame on each other. This guy is just making assumptions and stating his opinion with no factual research to back it up. As a black woman I have never despised white women. I could care less who one chooses to date because it has nothing to do with me. How could he sit here and judge blacks who choose to live and work around each other? Since they are racist then so are the whites who live in predominantly white neighborhoods. Oh and also Asians who live around Asians. Give me a break. Every race tends to live around people who share their same cultural background. There decision to do so or not is really nobody’s business. Eveyone should make a conscious effort to have close friends from all different backgrounds to be more well rounded.The bottom line is people need to stop being so critical and judgmental by determining who should be blamed.
I agree. One cannot be judged by the whiteness & darkness of one’s skin. I am white and have met white&darker skinned people that I hate and I have also met white&darker skinned people that I love. Sharpton, Jackson, education systems, and articles like these keep the base, skin-deep animosity alive.
Yes each person is their own individual with their own characteristics and personality. It is truly disturbing how a diverse country with so many educated people could be so critical and hateful. It is quite ironic how as time goes on more diversity is seen on tv and in movies but racial tension is getting worse. A lot of my friends from other countries are really confused by this. We as a nation are just covering up our problems. I truly believe a big problem is many Americans can’t say they have close friends that are not the same race as them. You can’t form an educated opinion unless you have done research or experienced the topic at hand. If you interact closely with people from other races you are exposed to their cultural background and will inevitably be more well rounded. Chances are if one is receptive to this they will not be racist, use stereotypes to define others or partake in race baiting.
The more one is distanced from the supposed “other” the more that person is removed from reality. It just kills me that the politically motivated and ignorant are allowed to create and enforce the criteria of how Americans are categorized. Me, I favor responsible, smart people, regardless of skin color, hair color, language spoken, or economic status. It is not coincidental that stupid people enjoy being filled with rage by insignifcant things.
I agree
+1
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of
keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race
before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living
out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of
advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly
because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his
grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
―
Booker T. Washington
The above quote is from 1911! Not much has changed.
This article is BS. Black racism doesn’t come close to white racism. I’m white and grew up in Mississippi. I witnessed racism on a daily basis, from my family, my friends, everyone. White people in Mississippi consider black people to be inferior animals. There is animosity against whites from some blacks, but it’s somewhat deserved given their history.
You don’t see the other side then and dont get out much of Ole miss. Even Blacks in polls admit they are the most racist as a group. That being said, I do not believe most blacks (or whites) are racist. PS stereotypes are not racist inherently.
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How is his statement white guilt?
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Ain’t no guilt. Just facts.
lolz “facts” where?
he’s white, honest!!
He thinks being white makes his view more credible. No, it makes him a FAGGOT.
Forget it. This place is the crevice where the closet white supremacist and racism deniers spin their hamster wheels. Sad state for Red Pill really.
They’re multiplying faster
Black Americans are more racist than White Americans that’s for sure (just look at any poll data involving a racialized incident….Whites are much more evenly divided in what they think about a case where as Blacks are 90-95 percent in favor of Trayvon/Mike Brown/Eric Garner etc….Same goes for voting patterns…
But is the “Black Race” worldwide more racist than the “White race”….Well that is impossible to answer as it would depend on the country/culture/region of the world that the Blacks or Whites come from….Whites from say Russia are certainly more racist than Blacks from say the Bahamas or Ghana or Cuba…
But for the purpose of this topic (I’m assuming we are talking about America) Black Americans are probably more racist than White Americans
Blacks, Latinos, and Asians are by far more overtly racist than white people.
The whole theory that people of color can’t be racist because they “lack the power structure to effect their racism” or however it goes is complete bullshit. So what they are saying is is that if they did have the power to discriminate and kill whites they would? Really. All the more reason to prevent them from doing so.
I believe everyone is inherently racist or discriminatory as it comes from a place of fear of the unknown and fear of being dominated. White people have just been forced to deal with it and try to improve because, for the better, civilizations containing white people have been dominant. It’s something that I have to work on, I’ll admit. What I don’t like is this collective white groveling and guilt based self-flagellation and this indoctrination into the youth that they are somehow responsible for past generations and that new generations of blacks are owed something by new generations of whites.
The power structure argument is the same one feminists use against men and “the patriarchy.”
I agree with portions of the article, but I don’t care what color your skin supposedly is, if you think Michael Richards’ rant was a “little gaffe”, then you are in no position to comment on race relations in any way, shape or form.
This sort of drivel does men no good in any corner of the globe.
Black pride
Latino pride
Asian pride
White pride
….pick the odd one out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxpDGo1Dtb8 much love to you, brother.
When are the masses going to realize that multiculturalism is a sinking ship? A multi-ethnic society cannot exist in a democracy. The US needs to separate into religious city-states and eliminate forced integration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxpDGo1Dtb8 this is all you ever need to send to people to shut them up. Cheers brother.
Your call to sanity falls on deaf ears. 99% of the “men” here drank the kool-aid a long time ago.
I remember a joke from years past where there’s a white man marrying a white woman. Nice big wedding, one side white relatives, the other side black relatives. The white man is blind. One of his relatives whispers something in his ear and he pauses and screams at the top of his lungs “A N……!!!!!!”
The true irony of racism is how Cosmopolitan it is…
Every race, class, creed, tribe, religion, society has racism in it. Even people you think are the most super liberal in the world struggle against and act in spite of their racist thoughts – and they themselves have their own internal ‘tribes’ where maybe vegans would hassle vegetarians, Hipsters would hate Hippies, etc.
“Ganesh has one tusk” is what I’d say.
We need to realize racism. It’s better if people rise above it, for “The Controllers” use “Divide and Conquer” and the world would not be there without it. But “Counter Racism” namely it’s ok to be prejudiced against white people… needs to END. Want us not to beat, hurt, insult black people – fine I’m all for that. But it needs to work both ways. An end to hatred and hostility in return for forgiveness. If they want to be “Morally superior” they are there already doing that.
Just say nigger, it’s a word and does not kill anyone; you fucking Honky. Self censorship is a sign that the propaganda and indoctrination are working. One of the few places left on the internet where you can speak your mind without censorship and what do you do? Self Censor. It’s disgusting. Our controllers are no longer using race to keep us divided, they are doing everything in their power to unite humanity into one big brown multicultural Brazil. They WANT a one world government. To be honest after reading many posts here on ROK for the last month or so I would say the VAST majority of the “men” here want a NWO (free of feminism of course). The red pill does not increase intelligence.
The ones making money and deriving power from racial politics are old Negroes and when they are dead there will be no more racial identity or racial politics allowed. Ending racism is exactly what the liberal socialists and communists have always wanted. Race is no longer used in the “Divide and Conquer” strategy because over 50 years of brainwashing and indoctrination in public schools have left 95% + of Americans (WASP’s) wanting to mix with other races and cultures.
The Hegelian dialectic which is fundamental to ruling our new colorblind, multi-cultural societies involves setting people up to argue over one ideological conflict after another. Each of these conflicts changes society in a fundamental way that brings us closer and closer to having one single ideology. Any academic familiar with Hegel will agree on the Hegelian process: thesis, antithesis, and synthesis. For example, if the issue of abortion is brought into public debate, people will coalesce around the views that are pro-abortion and the views that are anti-abortion. This public debate will continue for a certain time, and at some point the two views will be reconciled by some over-arching view, and the two groups will be ideologically fused into one single group.
This process has been a couple of hundred years in the making, dating back to the debates between socialism and capitalism. Over and over again the cycle continues, and more middle grounds are achieved, until in the final stage we achieve a radical middle, “a new theory of law that is acceptable to everyone but is appealing to no one in particular.”
After we all mix into one homogeneous mass without distinction our “Controllers” dream will be made reality. It will be a dream come true for most here as well it seems…
Yes, the tan every man is their goal. The NWO, especially the Saturday people, want to subsume Aryan genetics in the brown mass. We are not going to be allowed anything – not our own living space, culture, genotype. The Saturday people go on however, with a religion that is race based. The thing about the red pill is if you realize that feminism is utter bullshit, a destructive psychological brainwashing foisted upon society by virtue of the Saturday people’s control of the media, educational and banking system, you then start to question their other bullshit stories, like racial equality and the joys of diversity.
So blacks saying a few things, and acting a certain way towards whites has dramatically lowered the living conditions of white Americans? I’m pretty sure government policy and institutional racism have done that exact thing to black people in this country. Somebody with no power over where you can live and what you can own, is no harm to you despite their feelings or words
Americans Have Drank the Kool-Aid
Ever hear of Jonestown? The mass suicides and murder? Well everything Jim Jones advocated is now American reality. Americans have drank the kool-aid because everything that this madman advocated is now promoted and lauded as good, sensible and common knowledge by the majority of men posting here. Race was an important subject for the Reverend Jim Jones, who created an integrated family (just like Hollywood Celebrities today), an integrated congregation (just like nearly every “church” in America now does), and the integrated compound at Jonestown (just like the American Government has forced upon us), in a remote part of Guyana in South America.
A Rainbow Family
His adopted children were Korean and black, and significantly, his black son shared Jones’ own name. ( Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie )
African American Preaching and Worship
Jones was motivated to start Peoples Temple in part because he wanted to introduce communism into American culture and also because he disliked mainstream denominations that served single-race congregations. He found a model for his new church in Father Divine’s Peace Mission on trips to Philadelphia in the late 1950s. Divine, a contemporary of the controversial black separatist leader Marcus Garvey, was a charismatic black preacher whose meetings were theatrical and physical. Worshippers alternately rose up or fell to their knees; one member might be healed; another might faint at the presence of the Holy Spirit. A number of Peoples Temple members noticed a change in Jones’ preaching style after he visited Father Divine. Jones became more flamboyant, and his mix of Pentecostalism and Methodism appealed to the African American community.
Civil Rights Activism
The worship may have been familiar in style, but Peoples Temple’s social and political activism was something new. It appealed to African Americans looking for alternatives to their conservative churches. He and his wife were the first white couple to adopt a black baby in the state in 1961, the year Freedom Riders trying to desegregate interstate buses were brutally attacked in Alabama. By the mid-1960s, it was clear to Jones that Indiana was not yet ready for the changes he advocated. He looked elsewhere for his vision of a multiracial community.
California: The Promised Land?
In 1965, Peoples Temple moved its base to Ukiah, California, a small town in an agricultural area about two hundred miles north of San Francisco. In this environment, Jones allied his group with progressive politicians demanding rights for minorities and the poor. Hundreds of Peoples Temple volunteers could blanket a neighborhood with fliers, stuff a mass mailing, or enthusiastically cheer a campaign rally at a moment’s notice.
A Rainbow Congregation
Peoples Temple welcomed people of every race and ethnicity. The racial integration became self-fulfilling at some point; the congregation itself became the draw. Sue Fortson heard about the group through his mother. “She was excited because she said it was an interracial group. She didn’t talk much about Jones himself, but she was just so excited because she saw this group of people that were all seemingly working together.” The integrated social movement held an appeal for non-blacks as well. Tim Stoen: “When I saw Jim kiss old black ladies on the cheek and their eyes would light up, I would cry, I was so touched.” Deborah Layton and others strove to be more like their non-white friends, wearing their hair in Afros and generally denouncing their privileged status as whites.
For some, an integrated environment was a lifeline. Vernon Gosney was a white man with a black wife. The first church they approached had refused to marry them — in fact, interracial marriage was illegal in some states as late as 1967. Gosney recalled the difficult climate of the time. “We were not accepted. Her family didn’t accept me. My family didn’t accept her, and it was really important to us, to have a place — to be in a place where we were accepted and embraced and celebrated…” Peoples Temple was that place.
Building a Mixed Race Utopia
Jonestown was meant to be a mixed race utopia, too. In a radio interview, Jones pointed out that Guyana was a black majority country. “We have 27,000 acres undertaking abroad in a mixed society, black president, but a beautifully racially-inclusive society.” Consciously or not, the move to Guyana must have echoed Marcus Garvey’s back-to-Africa movement in the ears of the older black members.
A Tenuous Legacy
Over the years, hundreds of people joined Peoples Temple of their own free will. In hindsight, it is easy to question why individuals would join a group that became a cult and cost them their lives. But Peoples Temple members saw things differently at the time. They joined because they believed in a society where people of all races could live and work together. They joined because they wanted their actions and examples to lead to that society. They joined because, at that time in America, those ambitions left them in a minority. Leaving aside, for a moment, the many ways the organization manipulated and exploited its members, it is clear that the congregants of Peoples Temple genuinely found happiness in fellowship, regardless of race. American’s now hold the same beliefs as the communist Jim Jones. Americans have drank the kool-aid.
I understand what you are saying but consider this: racism = prejudice + power. Everyone is prejudice to some extent but only people with institutional power can be racist.
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So does that make Jews the most racist of all?
Good rhetorical question.
except now you even have an affirmative action president. So whats da problem, why you still crying racist?
If blacks are more prejudice does that mean they should never be allowed to hold institutional power lest they become extremely racist?
When will the system be not racist? when all whites are as poor as blacks and on welfare? or when all positions of power are occupied by blacks???
The question in a democracy should be: how do we execute power for the benefit of most?
That’s a terrible metric.
Take for instance controversial Giuliani’s stop and frisk policy. The measure was struck down as unconstitutional (rightfully so), but while implemented the black murder rate plummeted. So if the measure of subjecting backs to unwarranted searches saves black lives, are you all for it?
It gets worse from there. Suppose that the lives of many could be enriched by the severe detriment of a few? It’s the underlying mentality of the Occupy movement, but it could just as easily apply to any majority population that determines that it would be beneficial to subjugate or eradicate a minority population.
Also FYI affirmative action and anything similar to it are failures under your question. These types of actions are implied to benefit the few often at the detriment of the most.
TL:DR You essentially rephrased ‘the ends justify the means’ and pretty much supplied an argument FOR racism.
Huh you may have a point. I need to sit with it for a while.
its clear the author has no idea what racism is if all of his examples are name calling and resentment..
* The 1790 Naturalization Act permitted only “free white persons” to become naturalized citizens, thus opening the doors to European immigrants but not others. Only citizens could vote, serve on juries, hold office, and in some cases, even hold property.
* White Americans were also given a head start with the help of the U.S. Army. The 1830 Indian Removal Act, for example, forcibly relocated Cherokee, Creeks and other eastern Indians to west of the Mississippi River to make room for white settlers.
* The 1862 Homestead Act followed suit, giving away millions of acres of what had been Indian Territory west of the Mississippi. Ultimately, 270 million acres, or 10% of the total land area of the United States, was converted to private hands, overwhelmingly white, under Homestead Act provisions.
* In the South, the federal government never followed through on General Sherman’s Civil War plan to divide up plantations and give each freed slave “40 acres and a mule” as reparations. Only once was monetary compensation made for slavery, in Washington, D.C. There, government officials paid up to $300 per slave upon emancipation – not to the slaves, but to local slaveholders as compensation for loss of property.
* Jim Crow laws, instituted in the late 19th and early 20th century and not overturned in many states until the 1960s, reserved the best jobs, neighborhoods, schools and hospitals for white people.
* The landmark Social Security Act of 1935 provided a safety net for millions of workers, guaranteeing them an income after retirement. But the act specifically excluded two occupations: agricultural workers and domestic servants, who were predominately African American, Mexican, and Asian.
* Like Social Security, the 1935 Wagner Act helped establish an important new right for white people. By granting unions the power of collective bargaining, it helped millions of white workers gain entry into the middle class over the next 30 years. But the Wagner Act permitted unions to exclude non-whites and deny them access to better paid jobs and union protections and benefits such as health care, job security, and pensions. Many craft unions remained nearly all-white well into the 1970s.
* New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans – but not others – to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as “redlining.” Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.
1790 to 1970…180 years of REAL racism..and that doesn’t include recent studies of inequeties in employment, housing, medical and eduction and judicial systems today.
racism is an ACTION not a belief or feeling its a econonic strategy to hoard resources to the exclusion of others based on race, ethnicity etc. Until the author can give REAL examples of Blacks as a group doing any of the above listed then this article is misguided click bait AT BEST..
here is the problem. Lots of immigrants who came here with nothing have been very successful in America, including south americans, jews, Asians, arabs, eastern Europeans, and even africans etc. People who have been victim of war, famine, persecution etc before and since 1970. So now that the system isn’t racist whats up? why aren’t blacks successful and why are they still crying racist? In the end the system is just made of people and their actions, many of whom are not white, so why would you rather call everyone racist than take responsibility? More likely this is a good indicator as to why the system used to be racist. Because African Americans are dysfunctional.
When will the “system” not be racist? When it is explicitly pro black? with pro black laws, black leaders and/or when all white people are poor and illiterate?
youre cherry picking cases..immigrants are self selected and here voluntarily, African Americans are so strongly assimilated into American life that their statistics represent a marginalized minority rather than an immigrant group, similar to historic class systems in several other countries (India, for instance). Also you ignore is issues of Native Americans and non immigrant Mexicans.
Nah native americans rarely complain about anything, it’s usually blacks and self hating whites that rant about whites needing to give America back to the Indians lol. It’s something losers like you bring up to bash whites with. And please don’t talk to me about Asian indian culture, I have spent a lot of time in india, my name basically means indian king. Lower caste indians are forced to clean shit off the street, don’t get welfare, housing, public education and aren’t all over the TV, music, sports and media, nowhere to be seen in universities or politics and are literally starving by the thousands, they are also defined as much by their class as they are by their genetics. Blacks are a racial group not strictly speaking a class anymore, as they are no longer defined as slaves. Some Blacks are mutimillionaires, landowners, soldiers, government officials etc and some are crackheads on the street. A bottom caste Indian is by definition in poverty and on the fringes of society. Otherwise they are not bottom caste. Get a grip of yourself. What you said is a nonsense excuse for everyone being better than American blacks. Ridiculous. It seems what you’re saying is African americans are inferior people due to being slave stock. Fair enough
1. lol at the notion you think native american rarely complain.
2. lol at the fact that your issue is the complaining and not the f-ing over they have gotten in the first place. Its not about giving america back to the indians its recognizing the effect american society has had on those people which is something you refuse to do because you can’t dispute it.
3. Its not an excuse for anything its recognizing that the immigrant experience and black american experience are not the same thing. it has nothing to do with stock and everything to do with how society perceives each group. You did it yourself by separating american blacks from african immigrants.
4. the article title is Are Black People More Racist Than White People then posits that because blacks may say some hurtful things or have bad attitudes towards whites that somehow constitutes racism and I illustrated how actual racism functions and it has nothing to do with name calling and funky attitudes which is another thing you haven’t disputed. So you have no idea what youre talking about in the first place with your BS comparisons which has NOTHING to do with the article. Either stay on topic or stop responding with your nonsense.
You compare to native americans, who’s main issue is not racism today but that they were actually genocided, they don’t complain much about racism today, because their isn’t any. You compare to Indians and I destroyed that argument too. You still can’t even explain why African americans are less successful and cry racism at an alarming rate compared to even say black African immigrants. YOU MADE THE COMPARISONS TO INDIANS. I didn’t start talking about native americans and Asian Indians. You can’t even take responsibility for what you have said here. I’m not debating with you about the definition of racism, i’m with debating you that it doesn’t exist. You claim the system or society is racist against a very certain subset of people, namely unsuccessful and impoverished African American people. Frankly I find that offensive to anyone else, white, black or yellow who may be struggling in life, but not throwing the racist card around and simpy working hard, not getting a helping hand from anyone. You have a very misguided view of what life is like for other people. African American blacks may not have the same history as other people, but so what, today they have equal rights and the same opportunities. You have no answers other than that American Blacks were done wrong by slavery at one point, and so now are inferior people or unable to compete with other races. As long as their is one down and out Afro-american in the world, he’ll be crying racism.
again OFF TOPIC..
1. YOU were the first to compare Blacks to immigrants period. The ARTICLE the reason we’re having this discussion in the FIRST place states ARE BLACK PEOPLE MORE RACIST THAN WHITE PEOPLE.
The answer to that question and topic is NO.
Its NO historically
Its NO in reality
and its NO even according to YOUR argument because YOU said: ” I’m not debating with you about the definition of racism, i’m with debating you that it doesn’t exist.”
and to you point that racism doesn’t exist well there are many studies that show real disparities and discrimination today so your argument is with reality not me. As far as whites working hard and not taking handouts..again I listed 180 years of what is essentially affirmative action for whites that lead up and thru the late 20th century..so thats not true either.
Now if you have a retort to the TOPIC then state it.
Your argument amounts to this. “racism existed in history, so it exists now, but only against a small specific sub-set of African Americans who are impoverished, unsuccessful, and feel that it exists”
All the laws and acts you stated have been reversed and many also applied to other races, it just happened that blacks were the major minority until recent times. Hence my comparison with immigrants is relevant. They could only come here since the immigration act of 1965, so the fact they weren’t here experiencing racism like the African americans is not relevant. They were still and would have been de facto discriminated against, and can be compared now in this modern society as people of minority races who may experience racism, to assess your claims.
You could have just clarified that this is your opinion, and the debate is over, instead you want to write and write and reply and reply and keep this thing going just to sound like you are right, and not simply suffering from a victim mentality. Your whole argument rests on the idea that there is something special about African Americans and their experience in MODERN American society….there isn’t. There are sufficient numbers of successful minorities, whites, people of all races, and indeed successful African Americans who have started with nothing in life, who have either become successful or even if they haven’t aren’t able to or choose to not cry racism. Just admit it. YOU are a loser, or FEEL like a loser in life, and so need to propagate this tired racism crap to justify to yourself and others your own perceived low status in life. Get over it. what do you want? reparations?
You could have just clarified that this is your opinion, and the debate is over, instead you want to write and write and reply and reply and keep this thing going just to sound like you are right..
you should take your own advice…lol..and your STILL not on topic. ARE BLACK PEOPLE MORE RACIST THAN WHITE PEOPLE?
I’m giving you that advice because you are complaining about me being off topic or irrelevant, but once again it is YOU who are complaining. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE THING YOU SAY. I don’t need to take my own advice, i’m enjoying this long conversation taking down your ideas about the prevalence of white racism in modern society. It’s you that apparently isn’t, but still replying to it…..And everything I say is relevant if it runs counter to your ideas that whites are inherently racist.
YES BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST. the levels of violence and hatred expressed seem to indicate this. Even the accusations of racism against whites are a form of hatred in this day and age. Note also south africa and zimbabwe for these horrendous levels much worse than america. You seem to think history proves that whites are racist. No all it proves is that whites are the only race willing to live alongside others, especially blacks PERIOD. There aren’t significant black racial minorities in non-white countries for a reason. because they are racist. And like you said, even in places like india as well as Indonesia, Malaysia etc racism exists where the racial differences are miniscule. Nigeria and the rest of africa is rife with ethnic hatred despite the similarities of the people. White racism is by no means the worst or most prevalent, it is just the only racism that is spoken about or that any attempt has been made to deal with, even from the top down. Due mainly to the innate non-racist nature of whites, but also in recent years, the lunacy of the governing elite. blacks never having invented a written language or high technology, have never been in a position to feed themselves, let alone oppress other people systemically. This doesn’t mean they can’t be racist in their thoughts and actions.
soo you say that racism doesn’t exist but now say that blacks are racist…lol..I’m laughing at these long winded rants that are STILL off topic. The article doesn’t talk about immigrants or whats happening in other countries so why are you?..lol and the crap about “the innate non-racist nature of whites” had me rolling on the floor..seriously I’m sharing that part on social and even white people laugh at that LMAO. You can keep going just try to stay on TOPIC.
Are Black People More Racist Than White People?
if so explain how in real world issues beyond they say mean things and have bad attitudes.
No my claim is that racism as you define it doesn’t really exist anymore, as in the systemic racism that you outline in your first comment. Once again you are forgetting or not taking responsibility for the things you have said and defined in this conversation. Share on social media all you want, but your appeals to that kind of authority are futile here, and can be disregarded easily, just look at the top rated comments on this very comments section if you think that is what matters in a debate between one man and another about reality, you have already lost. I’m dead on topic. It’s you who have tried to move the goal posts unsuccessfully. Everything I have said is relevant to explaining to you that systemic racism no longer exists.
I don’t need to explain black racism beyond that, because that’s all they are capable of given retard level IQs. I have explained that already. Your argument simply amounts to “blacks can’t be racist because they are inferior and not in a position to oppress anyone”, which in itself is a racist position to hold, racist against blacks. But probably has some merit to it. Mainly the blacks are inferior part.
Your insistence that only a small subset of African americans who are impoverished, unsuccessful and FEEL that whites are racist, are victims of racism, regardless of how all other people have moved on and are getting on with life, shows your unwillingness to actually debate, and your inferior IQ. The immigrants and all the other crap is relevant because if the racism was real, they’d be experiencing and crying about it it too!! Any argument that doesn’t just de facto accept the unique oppressed position of American blacks in modern society is redundant to you. You are a victim mentality loser.
filibustering doesn’t make you right just long winded. And I’m not giving my definition of racism I’m showing you AMERICAN HISTORY. The systemic racism outlined is examples of real racism that built the white middle class and has effects even to this day. What the author of the article and you are suggesting is that blacks having funky attitudes towards whites is on par with anything whites have historically done in this country to minorities including genocide against the indians is asinine and moronic at best. Your injecting immigrants into it and saying that they don’t complain like the blacks is even wrong..you mentioned earlier that immigrants could only come here because of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 which is a direct offshoot of the civil rights movement (your welcome) It’s also worth mentioning that a lot of ethnic groups, such as the La Raza movement, were also emboldened by the civil rights movement to demand equal treatment.
To your contention that systemic racism no longer exists:
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime. Individuals of color have a disproportionate number of encounters with law enforcement, indicating that racial profiling continues to be a problem. A report by the Department of Justice found that blacks and Hispanics were approximately three times more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than white motorists. African Americans were twice as likely to be arrested and almost four times as likely to experience the use of force during encounters with the police.
Students of color face harsher punishments in school than their white peers, leading to a higher number of youth of color incarcerated. Black and Hispanic students represent more than 70 percent of those involved in school-related arrests or referrals to law enforcement. Currently, African Americans make up two-fifths and Hispanics one-fifth of confined youth today.
The war on drugs has been waged primarily in communities of color where people of color are more likely to receive higher offenses. According to the Human Rights Watch, people of color are no more likely to use or sell illegal drugs than whites, but they have higher rate of arrests. African Americans comprise 14 percent of regular drug users but are 37 percent of those arrested for drug offenses. From 1980 to 2007 about one in three of the 25.4 million adults arrested for drugs was African American.
Once convicted, black offenders receive longer sentences compared to white offenders. The U.S. Sentencing Commission stated that in the federal system black offenders receive sentences that are 10 percent longer than white offenders for the same crimes. The Sentencing Project reports that African Americans are 21 percent more likely to receive mandatory-minimum sentences than white defendants and are 20 percent more like to be sentenced to prison.
thats just facets of the criminal justice system in THIS century..not 60 years ago. And so far you STILL haven’t shown any examples of how blacks are more racist than whites..because thats the TOPIC OF THE ARTICLE you know.
of course niggers are more racist, they discriminate against blacks in favor of whites, or they prefer lighter skin blacks over darker skinned…..thus admitting their inferiority.
Fuck this article. White nor black people of today are supposed to be blamed for the institutions made by past white people. But we live in a system which privileges the majority and feeds off of white bias and fear. I dare to say that all these feminist movements and such have nothing to do with men but with the system created by men. You spoon fed white boys will not get it because you were not raised in a country made for blacks. You were raised in a country made for whites and your judgements do not represent the truth of an oppressed people. Disagree with me as you will but the reason reverse racism can’t exist is because racism lives within the mind of the white people and in the white system.
U mad bro?
are you racist bro?
By your standard yes, because when i was born i decided to be white…wait what?
This guy is an anti-white racist, hiding under the baner of “stand-up comedian”. Under a thin vener of fun respectability is a raging hatred for white people.
And if he doesn’t like white people… what of it?
He can be as racist as he wants to be, as long as he is honest about it. I am just identifying him as a racist with an anti-white agenda.
” Disagree with me as you will but the reason reverse racism can’t exist is because racism lives within the mind of the white people and in the white system.”
There is only racism, no need for the Word “reverse”. Blacks and other minorities can be just as racist as White people. Get over your hypocrisy.
“White nor black people of today are supposed to be blamed for the institutions made by past white people” “Disagree with me as you will but the reason reverse racism can’t exist is because racism lives within the mind of the white people and in the white system.” What?
Are you legitimately interested in my reasoning for this statement, confused, or are you disagreeing?
I’m pointing out two contradicting statements
What are you saying? that blacks are not fit to live in America?
Nice try wise guy hahahaha
America is not fit for blacks
I enjoyed this site until I realized that black men who want to be black are not welcomed. You guys came up with some interesting things but your whole woman problem is on a whole a white people problem and is a problem to any structure created by white men.
Thats the typical SJW response as well. Blame European post colonialsim as the reason every single race and gender are oppressed.
SJWs know nothing of the World and its history prior 1492& are utterly ignorant to the effect of Marxism in SE Asia, Africa, and Eastern Europe.
The ammount of SWJ’s in the comments section is absolutely amazing, lol. Re wording Farrakhan and making claims of institutionalized racism in the media when jews own most of the media and make up 2 percent of the U.S., lol.
Thank you! So many of my fellow black commenters think blaming someone will solve Anything. They can keep crying, ill be busy with self improvement
The SJW’s from this comment section seem to use critical race theory in their favor to control the argument. It seems they are interested in controlling the conversation rather than having one. At least you speak your mind no matter what and back it up with common sense.
I don’t think anyone can be “more” racist than anyone else racism is racism it’s all the same shade of unjust bigotry and hatred. You’re not “more” racist because you hate two nationalities versus just one it’s all the same. When black people are racist against whites it’s just as stupid as when white people do it but I will say black people tend to be MUCH more flamboyant about it.
I have also noticed they hate themselves as much as they hate white people because when they don’t have any white folk around to hate on they turn on their own and eviscerate the light skin black folk with “good hair” or basically anyone they feel is doing better or looking better than they are.
You usually won’t really see white people go on public tirade after tirade concerning black people but with black people it’s like a running joke to roll their eyes at something and scoff “white people.” or make an entire movie with black men painting themselves up in drag to ridicule and humiliate white women and then call the movie “White Chicks” while everyone is ready to rally up a lynching mob if a white person dares do “black face”.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/313613
It’s truly a double standard and some white people think they deserve poor treatment because “slavery” (which in itself is a slave mentality but I digress) even though they had naught a thing to do with it. Funny thing is African tribes would help Europeans gather up rival tribes to get rid of them so who’s getting reprimanded for that? Also umm hate to break up your pity party but blacks were not the only nationality that were once enslaved pretty sure people of middle eastern descent were ummm hmm Jewish people heck even black people owned other black people so really this asinine bs seriously needs to end.
It happened it’s history GET. OVER. IT. Yeah I said it, if it bothers you so much either rise above it or go back in time to stop it from happening but in either case please shut up and get on with your lives because you’re living in the past and you will never move forward. Maybe stop giving a reason to be enslaved because you don’t seem to know how to act or what’s expected of you in polite society unless you’re someone’s property. Knock it off because you’re making civilized black people suffer for your actions.
Modern day black people are discriminated against because of what they do and that leads to a global perception that is not so easily over looked even if you try to force the issue in feministic fashion. Most black people have no problem acting like savages because for some reason they feel that’s how they should act and it’s celebrated when they are heartless and fierce and that can be seen even in how they treat each other. I don’t even want to hear anyone try to cry “oppression” because you’re only as oppressed as you allow yourselves to be.
I for one don’t care about skin color or nations last time I checked there was nothing to differentiate any human being from another. We’re all made of the same organic material and we’re all going to become one with the earth again someday so everyone needs to just get off their collective high horse and realize that racism exists because people keep giving it a pulse. You stop feeding the “race troll” and it’ll die of starvation but oh why would that ever happen?
Heck the president of The United States only got to be such because of racism, you all thought he was somehow better qualified to lead this country because of the color if his skin and not the context of his character because by America’s own criteria the man WAS NOT qualified to be president period. Deny it all you want but when the KKK backs a black man in office while still maintaining their racial stance THAT’S A DAMN RED FLAG.
But who am I kidding, humans don’t have it in them to eradicate racism it’s far too powerful and effective a tool to divide, isolate and control so why would they ever willingly give it up? Be it through skin color, wealth, heck GENDER which this site and others like it ardently confirm, humans are always classifying and trying to outdo each other instead of realizing the actual power is in staying in your roles and working together for a common goal of good. Racism is our own fault and it’s a tragic sick shame, but this is what happens when man tries to rule himself.
I agree with some of your statements, but why not question the writers on this website every other week we all have a discussion about Black people and the negative aspects of their community. Notice how Black people don’t come here to discuss the ailments of current white society around the world and paint the entire white race as problematic, where whites are called animals, savages and their history distorted. Then you got a black guy write an off balanced article which doesn’t come close to discussing the issues in a real way…and now he is the token black guy everyone uses to justify their ignorant ways.
By the way the KKK wanted Barack Obama because they believe white anger towards him would increase their membership numbers. Without the first Black President, it would be harder for them to raise their numbers. It was not because the KKK liked his economic policies or his Geo Politics.(yes he is half white but its the “one drop rule” whites invented it just like Racial Hierarchy not my terms). You wont see white people go into a tirade because they were not in the position that black people were, if they were placed under the same situation I bet you everything that whites would’ve reacted far more violently! And yes on websites like this they do bring up black issues every other week and complain of surface discomfort which ironically is really blue pill.
On the issue of self hate that is centuries Old Indoctrination…its as simple as that…after Colonialism whites implemented a racial hierarchy and the whiter you were the better..this is real and even if people don’t like to hear it does not make it untrue. And yes it was in the past but has been passed down until now and stays in the mentality of some people. The best way to break a person is mentally and through divide and conquer its as simple as that! People seem to think “It happened in the past not now” Yes it did things that happened in the past still impact today! Its all very simple look at our current situation in the middle east this is hundreds of years in the making…past events have led to this current situation!
There have always been rioting in this country the worse have actually been white riots where they burned and looted black neighborhoods and killed blacks with Police support. This is also a class issue, again this does not mean you don’t have a chance to excel with hard work i also believe in that…but there are uncomfortable truths that cannot simply be denied.
The reason is that there are plenty of mainstream pages that paint White people as Savages whos Whole history is reducable to rape, pillage, murder and oppression of the precious non-White minorities of this World.
Anti-white ideology is mainstream in the western World, just go to a SJW site, and you will notice that Blacks are portrayed as eternal victims at the hands of the White man
Whites did not invent racial hierarchy. Prior to European trade and expansion. Arabs described Blacks as Savages. The chinese descibed White Merchants and Explorers in the middleages as “White hairy monkeys”.
In fact it is fairly common in World history to portray the racial or ethnic other as inferior or sub-human. It seems like you are cherry picking the evidence to support your anti-white post-colonial agenda.
Face it, blacks living in the western world are far more violent and racist compared to White people.
I’m not “anti-white” or have an anti-white ideology I am simply responding to bi-weekly articles always putting black people down. I know Slavery comes from Slav and whites have been subjugated as well but Institutional Slavery is a heavily white creation to justify the barbaric acts of colonialism its really as simple as A,B,C. Slavery existed but it didn’t come in the extreme racial chattel variety like it did during colonial times this is simply the basic obvious truth. And they basically created a whole branch of science to perpetuate this justification. The impact of colonialism has a created a worldwide trend to look down upon darker people today.
“In the 19th century, many scientists subscribed to the simple belief that human populations are divided into separate races.[13] This was often used to justify the belief that some races were inferior to others, and that differential treatment was consequently justified.[14][15][16] Such theories are generally termed scientific racism. When the practice of treating certain groups preferentially, or denying rights or benefits to certain groups, based on racial characteristics is institutionalized, it is termed “institutional racism”.
I’m not “Anti-White” that’s another problem in this page is people placing their idea of what your views are unto you. Second of all those pages are talking about historical facts that happened, that is simply truth not painting ALL whites as savages. Ironically those specific whites who actually were committing savage acts were themselves actively painting the victims as “savages. They perpetuated this false narrative, then when it is questioned people get uptight about it. It is all very ironic. Also there was hundreds of years head start where false narratives were written to complain about the last 40 to 50 years don’t you think. If you want more of that turn to your local Conservative Media who perpetuate half truths and lies. Yes also an element of the Arab population also tried to denigrate Blacks as well I acknowledge that but this European System was a completely new practice altogether, creating inequalities in society. Also many people here incorrectly cite half truths from conservative media. And even in so called Mainstream Media no one is Blaming all white people as barbaric or having them explain any situation where they have to explain a negative element of their race…or come to websites like these to discuss the ailments of White people every other week.
There are also several articles that put various White nations down, or asian, indian, etc. Blacks are not singled out.
“Slavery existed but it didn’t come in the extreme racial chattel variety like it did during colonial times”
This is simply not true. Slaves in former times were in many cases treated alot worse than American Blacks. Slaves have been worked to death in other periods of history. And chattel slavery has also been fairly common, treating slaves as property rather than autonomous individuals with rights. Nothing extraordinary about the colonial period.
“And they basically created a whole branch of science to perpetuate this justification.”
Also completely wrong. The rise of physical anthropology was not just due to a wish for justifying colonialism or slavery. Actually the bulk of the literature in early physical anthropology was concerned with differences among various European ethnicities.
In fact the idea of human races has much more to do with the Development of darwinism and Linnean taxonomy.
You are reading all these Developments in intellectual history through the lens of marxist critical race theory. Which is pretty much a hallmark of SJW literature. What the hell are you even doing on a site like ROK? You are fundamentally opposed to the sites basic tenets.
“They perpetuated this false narrative, then when it is questioned people get uptight about it. It is all very ironic.”
No I dont think they get upset about it due to the reasons you stated. Classifying other races or ethnies as Savages or inferior is not an invention of the European in colonial times. These basic ideas have been floating around since the dawn of time practically. But because of the development of biological science, they were now able to give these ideas a more scietific backing. Justifying colonialism was however only a minor part of it.
I dont know if you are aware of it, but many of these classifications were also widely discussed continually among European academics. And there was actually not much consensus in this area.
“that but this European System was a completely new practice altogether, creating inequalities in society.”
No the inequalities were there beforehand. No slaveowner, no matter what race he hails from, needed any system of racial classification to justify owning slaves.
Slavery has been normal through human history, in practically all parts of the World. “Scientific racism” did not change this.
Only anti-white postcolonial haters have made a business of pushing this idea that European slavery was especially evil or twisted. Its all a load of BS.
I dont visit American Conservative media sites, so I dont know what the neocon jews are discussing, and I really dont care.
I’m here cause some articles make some interesting points that is all..I try to look at history as fair and balanced as possible, I’m not as fiercely against feminism in general as most readers of this website, only aspect of third wave feminism.
While European Nations are criticized the criticism is mostly about social issues relating to politics and history where the conversation remains civil without criticizing the white race as a whole. “Post Colonial Haters” I wonder who are the “Lovers” lol anyway the basic truth is that Europeans justified their actions using false science and elevating racism to new heights while creating racist science…talk about mental gymnastics. Ironically everyone seems to criticize the blacks but if its a post about Islamic extremism you will see the muslims annoyed or if there was an article criticizing not the politics of a white country but the actual white race i bet these same people justifying it would themselves get angry, I would then happily love to point out their hypocrisy.
Honestly I’m beginning to think this article was click bait to keep people rolling in…if that’s the case it worked. I will not engage in the next two weeks when another article putting down blacks and other non white groups down.
Your Whole objection is based on a false premise. The article is critizising American Blacks, not Blacks in general. So you dont really have a strong case for general victimization of Blacks.
“I will not engage in the next two weeks when another article putting down blacks and other non white groups Down.”
This is your victim mentality is a nutshell. Its the Whites who apparently get a free pass, while the “oppressed minorities of colour” are constant victims of racism. Talk about mental gymnastics.
Its very simple this article is unbalanced fair and simple. Its not victim mentality again very simplistic idiotic terms you people love to use…you know whats more pathetic…many of your complaints on this website which are just surface annoyances yet people would think it was the White people who have been marginalized and truly oppressed by some of the commentary…..maybe you and your same thinking friends should stop your “victim mentality.”
I think the article is relatively balanced. AAs have on average quite negative attitudes towards White people. And the media and educational system severely strenghten this trend with “White privilege” rhetoric and ideology. And in contrast to what you claim the article is not critical towards Black people in general, but specifically african Americans. Where Blacks living in Soutern states are singled out as the most racist.
The version of history which you subscribe to is also blatantly anti-White, portraying europeans as exceptionally evil and oppressive. “Critical race theory” is really anti-White at its core. Its a mystery why you have a hard time just accepting this basic fact.
So it is not really surface annoyances. Anti-white mentality is rife in the western World.
Stating the obvious, that the reigning liberal zeitgeist is anti-white, is not the same as nurturing a victim mentality. Even if i acknowledge that the jews have a disproportionate effect on this development, they are far from the sole cause. Many misguided or sinister White people have also contributed to this ideological Development. The causes are multiple.
Subscribing to an ideology which portrays the history of White people as the epitome of oppression, and which furthermore claims that black people are the eternal victims(just like the jews) of this oppression, indicates that victim mentality is very deeply rooted.
The recent history of White Colonialism IS particularly brutal its very simple…stating realities is just that not “victim mentality” obviously that’s not saying “ALL WHITES ARE EVIL!” As there were many whites back then with different opinions who didn’t support their governments. Unlike many here I don’t think or write in absolutes. It is like when people say Obama is an “Apologist” for presenting our history in a realistic factual way…and not in the idealistic Americanized Propaganda way. Its all very simple. I can say that a segment of the Conservative party is also Jingoistic, Hypocritical, and xenophobic. I have also stated that I respect certain Conservative and also hold some conservative views as well.
I stated previously that so called P.C. media can be annoying and at times overbearing but that its attacks are not towards whites exclusively but blacks and other races as well. We all have to watch our words carefully in society presently. I have been saying this for a long time now…and ironically the most recent article on SJW’s attacks on the new Daily show host (who is a black man), is stating what I always stated to begin with!
In regards to my comment about the KKK backing a black president, I never stated my reasons for mentioning that and it certainly wasn’t because I thought they actually liked the guy hence why I said it was a “red flag”.
I will say there is no logic in “race wars” because if you’re going to behave like the those you condemn you then make yourselves the same. Whereas you COULD have maintained you were an innocent party by not retaliating by acting in kind your innocence is now lost and you will be looked at as no better than that which you claim to hate.
Unchecked rogue emotions make you behave like an idiot and justify your actions even though they are just as wrong because you “feel” this way or that way. Sure injustice should make you angry it disgusting but logic will tell a person not to use that anger in a counterproductive way by taking up the identity of your oppressors.
In all fairness this entire website seems to be predominantly devoted to emotionally fueled temper tantrums against women which is honestly laughable because even they don’t see that their line of thinking and bitterness will result in absolutely nothing changing for the better and them ensuring what they claim to hate is permanent.
They even have their own little lingo (ie red pill, blue pill, white knights, alpha, beta) I have to fight back the laughter because these guys are actually serious (sans satire) and they believe this dreck with abject conviction but they look through just about every issue with a high emotional filter. I mean these are the types that would probably gnaw off their own foot to take off their shoes when logically all they have to do is untie the darn thing but that’s what blind rage will do to a person.
What happened in the past is absolutely still alive and well today albeit morphed but this isn’t even it’s final form we WILL get worse. I could go on but it would require me to call upon truths and knowledge that most people simply are not wiling to accept or give due credence so it’s not even worth the backlash. No disrespect to you though I get what you’re saying and for any problem no matter the size there’s always a simple solution but humans love their complexities therefore they will work to drive themselves into extinction because they are too willing to work with the enemy.
Of course there is no logic to racial discussions that’s the point. We never bring it up on websites or other conservative websites what I am stating is that they do every other week. Personally some articles have interesting points I agree but I have my own views on Feminism and only have issues with certain hypocritical aspects of third wave feminism. And I rarely engage in feminist debates. However it is not me who brings about Racial conversations in the first place…and pointing out that ironically it was Europeans who brought up Pseudo Science and biological and Institutional Racism is what makes the whole situation silly. Personally I have no problem with white people or black people as long as we have mutual respect its very simple. And what knowledge or truths do you know of? Do you mind sharing?
I would love to take you down the rabbit hole just remember to bring an open mind. Hmm…I like you, we must converse.
Yeah we must! I’m interested in hearing your angle.
This is a very brave post. Huge respect goes to Donovan Sharpe for being honest and balanced.
The more overt racism demonstrated by Blacks is not due to any genetic or otherwise inherent characteristic, but rather caused by the fact that they can get away with it.
The jewish-american system which rules the West today is anti-white at its core. Blacks are merely used as useful pawns to further this agenda.
What I believe we should all take away from this and always remember is to never fall into the victimhood mentality.
One thing I really love about Return of Kings is that it’s largely focused on self-determination, self-improvement, and personal responsibility. It’s a bit alarming to see people on here losing their shit over this article.
Don’t get me wrong… maybe you do have legitimate grievances and problems worth mentioning. The important thing is to overcome and not live your life based around the belief that there’s all these external forces keeping you down. I don’t care if you’re black and bitching about the white man, a white person bitching about the Jewish system, a Jew bitching about all the antisemites keeping him down, etc. Are you going to sit around bitching and crying about it or are you going to achieve something and prove [insert group or power structure here] wrong?
That is what the feminists do, and what sets us apart (or at least should be) from them. Instead of trying to make their own games, fund their own projects, or let developers know there’s a market for SJWs and feminists, what do they do? They bitch, cry, and complain about how gaming and the whole gaming community just isn’t fair, and they need to make games for them because “muh oppression.” In this scenario I would expect ROK readers to give the gaming industry the finger and say “alright, fuck that, we’ll make our own games, fund our own projects, and do it better than you faggots.”
Maybe a lot of people here do have irreconcilable differences. Maybe certain groups do want to separate and get away from the evil white man, the Illuminati, the Mexicans, the blacks, or whatever else. Guess what? That isn’t going to happen unless all of us break out of the victimhood mentality and focus our attention at the system we’re under. We don’t have real freedom of association, the police state is growing, we’re eating food that isn’t really food, our education systems are being eroded with bullshit like common-core and SJW nonsense, and we’re becoming more and more reliant on the government for everything.
Hit the nail on the head. Every group of people can find a reason to stay a victim. The victim-hood mentality will ONLY HURT YOURSELF. I can go around as a Black person here in America and blame everyone else for my problems, and not do shit to make myself better. I’m the only one holding capable of holding me back, period, end of story.
People in general respect a winner and winning attitude more than anything. It’s easier to talk to people and have respect for one another when it’s not steeped in “woe is me.” Something the SJW feminist crowd doesn’t understand is that even if you have legitimate grievances and issues, you’re not going to make any bridges between you and another person when your mentality is “fuck you, we have an oppressive system, and it’s all your group’s fault.”
I think the moral is to act and selfimprove no matter what. Even if I accept that the current system reigning in the West is anti-white, this does not remove my responsibility to better myself.
The worst thing one can do is get stuck behind the computer screen whining all day, and thereby wastng valuable time that could have gone towards more productive endevours.
I have for sure been guilty of doing this at certain periods of my life. Its fine using some spare time discussing on the internet, but one should never make it their number one pastime.
That is the attitude of a winner and a real man.
This whole article, comments section, and conversation reminds me of the whole Ferguson ordeal. We had angry blacks and white gun owners who both hate the growing police state pitted against one another, both wanting the police state to go after the other group. Absolutely maddening…
‘Victimhood’ is all the blacks have to continue to avoid the fact that they fucked up the advances made by the Civil Rights movement.
They won their rights, but instead of integrating and becoming productive members of mainstream society they chose to segregate THEMSELVES in some misguided attempt at establishing their ‘African culture’. The fall-out from which we are ‘enjoying’ to this day.
“One thing I really love about Return of Kings is that it’s largely focused on self-determination, self-improvement, and personal responsibility.”
Thanks. I really needed a good laugh today.
Let’s just get to the crux of the matter, shall we? Let’s address the elephant in the room that everybody tends to duck whenever issues like this come up. The relationship between African Americans and whites has been strained ever since the first African was brought over here in chains in the 1600s. The perception of persons of African descent in America as being members of a permanent and perpetual underclass has persisted through the Civil War, Jim Crow, two World Wars, and beyond. The only glimmer of hope we had of normalizing relations between these two ethnic groups (I refuse to use the word “race,” as it’s merely a social construct that can be modified at will) was…wait for it…”Separate But Equal.”
The “Black Wall Streets” we saw in Atlanta and Tulsa are examples of how this could have worked if such areas had been allowed to thrive. But dissolution of the Freedmen bureau, home loan schemes, “white flight” and a lot of other issues pretty much killed the idea of “Separate But Equal” in its crib, leading to the U.S. Supreme Court doing what it does best–sticking its nose into a situation, mucking and grasping around blindly and making the situation worse (see Roe v. Wade, Engels v. Vitale, and the same sex marriage issue).
As an African American who grew up in the wake of desegregation in the rural south, I can tell you firsthand that IT JUST DOESN’T WORK. Forcing people from two dissimilar cultures to coexist against their will JUST DOESN’T WORK. You know why you don’t hear about conflicts between Native Americans and the rest of America, except the occasional kerfuffle about ball team mascots? Because the Natives are on their own land, with their own governments, courts, police, industries, and the like. It’s the same with Asian and Jewish communities. They’re “communities within a community,” so to speak, in that they exist seamlessly within the dominant society (except for maybe Chinatown, which is a bit more ostentatious example).
The point is, at least for now, each of the ethnic and social groups in this country will probably be better off “going their own way” from each other. African Americans make up about 14% of the population. In recognition of that percentage, as well as the part they played in building this country up to what it is over the last few centuries, why not give them a proportionate plot of land on which to work, build, and determine their own destinies? We can do the same for Hispanics (who undoubtedly want New Mexico and Arizona back, anyway), and give the potheads, cross-dressers, LGBTs, furries, bronies, and all other outliers of society a state (or two) of their own as well. This isn’t as crazy as it sounds. Almost a year ago, people were talking about breaking California up into several states based on culture, social mores, and other demographics. Once people aren’t forced to live around people they don’t relate to, two astounding things will happen: 1) racial, social and religious strife will practically disappear; and 2) there will be no more opportunities for anyone to use racism, reverse racism, sideways racism or any other ‘ism to excuse failure. This, my friends, is my modest proposal for 2015.
Who was responsible for capturing and selling Africans as slaves? It was the Spanish with the full co-operation of Africans.
And they seem to forget that Brazil had around FOUR TIMES as many African slaves as the United States did.
Where are the protests there?
https://kvond.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/spinoza-doubt-the-sephardim-and-the-slave-trade/
In particular it was the Sephardim, or Spanish Jews.
The “Elephant is the Room” is the centuries-long Jewish subversion of all humanity.
Retard, you are.
as a Northern European, I can tell you that black people will never know if they are actually skilled because people are scared of the racist-card they are pulling on people.
I am for race equality and I know its sick when black people are not even trying to integrate in our society here up north.
In Connecticut, USA, they skipped university lectures because someone had written “no niggers” in the toilet room. I mean seriously? Sure its retarded to write stuff like that, but so is to cancel classes in order to show sympathy.
Nice you mention Connecticut
How is it nice? I don’t get it man.
Imagine if these black racists actually had the financial and human capital to that of white racists. Imagine if these black racists were forced upon you as employers, or God forbid, the sole provider of formal education … then we may have a problem.For now, chill the hell out and let ppl vent.
but they will tho
Imagine if these black racists actually had the financial and human capital to that of Jewish racists.
Fixed
Chris Rock’s answer to the question was “Black people, because Black people hate Black people too!”
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My high school was an “ethnically diverse educational institution” which meant that I was one of two WASPs there. Ok, I exaggerate, but the Whites, who were in the minority, consisted mostly of Greeks and Eastern Europeans (and technically, I am half Celt and only 1/2 Anglo-saxon anyways). Still in a high school where Blacks, East Indians, and Filipinos individually and collectively outnumbered the White people, it was an eye-opening experience.
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I suppose the bright side is that there was a significant Ismaili Muslim population there and several of them were friends.
Taleeb Starkes made a great point on The Anthony Cumia Show the other day. He said that he thinks black people seem to think they’re a much bigger part of the population than they are.
But they’re only 13% of the US population yet they seem to think they’re entitled to equal share with whitey.
And don’t give me this slavery horseshit. The Chinese were slaves too and they prospered. And they didn’t do it by sitting in squalor screaming for ‘gibsmedats’, they fucking WORKED.
Reminds me of Hopsin’s Ill Mind 5.
The term ‘real nigga’ is publicly used.
And I need to know what it means, cause I’m fucking confused.
Are you one? For always busting your tool, with nothing to lose, or something to prove, to homies up in your crew.
Is it because you selling drugs to get loot
And brag about how done been shot and stabbed, like it’s fun to be you?
But your life’s a struggle right, you just hustling through.
Nah, you hamster ass nigga, you just stuck in the loop.
Man, why do black people got to be the only ones who can’t evolve.
Cause you in the streets acting like a Neanderthal.
It’s clear you can’t stand the law, you lost as an abandoned dog.
And all you interested in is fighting, rapping and basketball.
I can’t even fuck with you.
Cause if we out in public you gon’ get caught stealing some shit and get my ass in trouble too.
You’ll get old and be nothing.
Living life in these streets thugging, and starting shit with anybody, mean mugging.
Look at you, a real nigga, thinking your life’s cool.
Girls used to turn me down for guys who were like you.
Till you grabbed their heart and shoved a spear head right through.
Then they regret it because it wasn’t the right move.
Your real nigga talk seems bogus.
A real nigga don’t brag about being real, as long as he knows it.
And his future doesn’t seem hopeless.
A real nigga stays out of jail, handles shit and he keeps focused.
Hopsin is dope. I slept on him really quick until I saw his videos, with his glow in the dark eyes. lol.
He’s dope though.
I’m Indian and Indians are probably the most racist people on earth. They hate negros more than white people do. The reason why it’s tolerated for non-Whites to be racist, is because ‘we’ didn’t do things like enslaving Africans, murdering people and stealing their lands. At least, not on a big scale like the Europeans did it.
Just look at the facts: slavery and colonization were done by white Europeans and it made them the new superpowers in the world. Whites just have to live with this reputation.
I think the power structure plays a role too. Back in the days the Indians and Chinese were the superpowers of the world. They described Europeans as filthy barbarians and people who were impure. Nobody wanted to be like them. And look now: they all want to be like white people.
You are clueless. India has been enslaving people for 2500+ years. You are seriously that naive.
“Brown and Martin weren’t sitting under trees studying for midterms when accosted by their would-be assassins. This isn’t to say they deserved to die, but they most certainly were not innocent little snowflakes minding their own business.”
Actually Martin WAS minding his own business when Zimmermen encountered him.
Says guy who writes for a website dedicated to blaming women for EVERY FUCKING THING UNDER THE SUN.
Can’t get laid? Can’t hold down a job or manage to get promoted? Can’t maintain an adult relationship and be a decent father and end up divorced? Global warming? Bad service at Starbucks? Obesity? Housing crisis? Bitter virgin serial killers? Mentally ill pilot crashes his plane and kills 150 innocent people? All women’s fault!
Yeah you white guys on ROK really set a shining example of how to accept responsibility for your own circumstances.
GMAFB
You obviously haven’t read too many articles on the site…
Awesome!
I’d like to see you open the minds of some of them folk at SBPDL.
Paul Kersey is a good writer & makes some excellent points, & I am confident that you can add to the conversation to open some closed minds.
I’ll admit that I’ve had black people out to kill me before, in middle school, with guns! It’s the individual!
OMG. GTFO. First, I do not support/condone the pussy tactics employed by black SJW’s. However…racism is not primarily about color. It’s about the distribution of equity within a society. If you believe, after centuries of making power moves, that white men/patriarchy will just sit back and allow another patriarchy to gain power, out of the kindness of their heart, then you is a m’uh fuckin fool.
If you believe, after centuries of making power moves, that Jewish Supremacists will just sit back and allow another patriarchy to gain power, out of the kindness of their heart, then you is a m’uh fuckin fool.
Fixed it, genius.
mad i missed the comments as they were coming in…the veil has been lifted!
That’s the problem. . White men are called racist for breathing, yet we endure a constant barrage of insults and cries of racism for everything thing we do. Any white man who doesn’t say fuck it and walk is a moron.
I am a black male, born and raised in NJ who currently lives in Harlem. I have never met a black person who blamed white people for their own lack of success.
Just keep making excuses, black people. Keep denying that you failed the civil rights movement, and just blame evil whitey for everything.
Don’t think for a moment that your segregation of YOURSELVES has anything to do with it.
21 y/o black man at a 4-year university. Former high school “oreo.” I think this article makes some important points, especially on an individual level. I don’t think any single person should continuously feel sorry for oneself, or play the victim. It’s dangerous to your mindset and hurts your potential. It makes you toxic to be around. I know several outspoken black/feminist activists that treat white people unfairly, only support black things and are just insufferably obnoxious about racial issues.
And I agree that the liberal media holds similar bias as that insufferable college activist. Azalea Banks has started a war on Iggy Azalea based on jealousy of her music sales and the huffington post and buzzfeed play right along (as well as some respected sources for more serious stories)
I’m biased, but I think historical context forces me to sympathize with my own race. White people brought black people here as slaves and destroyed their culture, spirit, and purpose for decades. Chattel slavery is the most embarrassing fact about America. Legal discrimination under law persisted until the 1970s. You mention the Black Panthers as if they were supposed to be the opposite of the KKK. Go read some Huey Newton. The Black Panthers were just marxist community watch organizations who gave free breakfast to kids and ran health clinics. Yes they also provided self defense against the corrupt police of the era(still relevant) but the leader Fred Hampton was shot in the head twice by white FBI agents while HE WAS ASLEEP. If you really think about it, every complaint you hold against contemporary black people’s racial views can be called a result of institutionalized/systemic racism and its effect of the psyche. I went through puberty thinking black girls were less attractive(not like every day I woke up like black girls are ugly but I would crush on the white girls first), come to find that studies show most Americans are conditioned to think that way. Even black girl Americans. I can completely see the need for black spaces, black promotion, and black power movements.
Bill this was the MOST BALANCED Comment I have seen so far! Don’t call yourself an “oreo” by the way..although I disagree with a few points, (but I also do not fully agree with the liberal media)…you have shown the most balanced commentary. Thing is what I was arguing with some other blacks here was that being “AWARE” of certain things does not mean you are giving up and being a “victim” in fact you can strive for the best while being aware of reality which is just as important. The Donovan article however is mostly unbalanced and comes off as pandering to his audience. Wish I can give you ten up-votes!
Jews ran the slave trade, not whites.
Thanks for your honesty, Donovan. 736 comments–wow. Doubt I’ll ever have time to go through all the hate and accusations you’re probably getting.
You gotta be the ultimate coon to write some ish like this, so many flawed premises I cant even begin to address them all…cute article, but flawed. Any discussion like this that ignores the realities of racism/institutionalized white supremacy only reveals the author’s cluelessness. But to each his own, rock on brother
Any discussion like this that ignores the realities of
racism/institutionalized JEWISH supremacy only reveals the author’s
cluelessness. But to each his own, rock on brother.
Fixed it for ya, dumbshit. Good Goyim!
I live in the most racially diverse country om earth ( South Africa) and the reverse racism is just as bad. Racial tension is on a knife edge with blacks throwing human shit at white statues and whites chaining themselves to the statues to prevent them from being damaged.
Hold up you want people to feel sympathy for whites in the former Aparthied S. Africa? BWHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! . I hold those blacks get rid of every last one of you!
Where do you read that I seek sympathy for whites, dickhead? Learn to read before making comments..come to SA and learn something
If whites leave SA the blacks would die of hunger, just like what happened in Zimbabwe. Go learn some history.
Just a quick comment about the soccer video. I’m Spanish and deep down, all those fans want is to get inside the players’ head. It has nothing to do with racism. With white players, they will shout other horrible stuff at them, calling them names, telling them to die, insulting their families… you name it. With black players, they have it easier, so they just cross the line and call them monkeys and shout racist things but they’re not motivated by racism per se.
Jews are more racist than blacks (or any other group for that matter, as evidenced by Israel and the teachings of the Rabbinic class), but other than that Whites are the least racist of any group. What other race would take political correctness and affirmative action, and “guilt for past alleged sins” that the whites have? Pathological altruism is indeed a bug/feature of the race. Just look at all the white male pussies running around today. It’s not just feminism that makes them that way.
“Whites are the least racist of any group” History says diff moron anyone can debunk that. Also according to the FBI over 70% of hate crime victims are black and 62% of offenders of hate crimes are white. Also affrimative action helped white bitches the most. Stop commenting. You have no idea what you are talking about…. http://ideas.time.com/2013/06/17/affirmative-action-has-helped-white-women-more-than-anyone/
“NOTHING LIKE having the response of oppressed people to racism be called racism. That is the result of one of two things: either you’re a racist, or your failure to understand racism, the ideology of white supremacy and how they function has caused everything else you think you know to confuse you? Racism is a POWER CONSTRUCT! It’s not so much an individual and personal phenomenon, its an INSTITUTIONAL & SYSTEMIC one.” – Wise Intelligent of Poor Righteous Teachers
The definition of racism used to be the belief that one race is inherently superior to another race. Leftists have changed the definition of the word so they can claim only white people can be racist.
No, white supremacists changed the definition.
I wont even take the time to debunk this dub article. It amazes me that you can use the term & say we are more racist. Please show me how blacks can prevent whites from getting jobs or lock whites up & have an judicial system that systematically that imprisons them? Even the U.N. ADMITS THIS. In the report below a U.N. funded group flat lays this out on how America treats black in law enforcement & the judicial system. Now where is the u.n. located? N.Y. Who mostly funds the U.N..? The US. So we are suppose to take your word for it & the word of whites when their own international organizations admit this? Also your reference to Trayvon was beyond stupid. You refuse to point out zimmerman was told not to get out of his car by law enforcement. He does anyways WITH A GUN & TRAYVON IS THE AGGRESSOR IN THIS?? WTF??? Then zimmerman has been in several altercations mostly violent after his killed Trayvon clearly showing his violent nature & you still defend him? Wow just wow. http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_ICCPR%20Race%20and%20Justice%20Shadow%20Report.pdf
If the UN said it it must be true. The UN is not in any way an anti-white organization. That’s IMPOSSIBLE since a great number UN members are white themselves!
Thats exactly my point dumb ass. Whites run the UN and are saying blacks are routinely targeted for prison. You guys are morons…
Oh I forgot to add according to the FBI AROUND 68% OF HATE CRIMES ARE COMMITTED AGAINST BLACKS. That alone kills this article. Explain how we are more racist when we are the victims of racist attacks the vast majority of the time? This article has NO CREDIBILITY! Victims: “Of the 4,057 victims of racial bias, 71.5 percent were victims because of an offender’s prejudice against blacks.” Offenders:”Of the 6,225 known offenders, 62.4 percent were white, 18.5 percent were black, and 7.3 percent were groups of individuals of various races. The race was unknown for 10.2 percent of offenders, and other races accounted for the remaining offenders”
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2010/november/hate_112210/hate_112210
Because when blacks kill whites, which happens much more frequently than the reverse, it usually isn’t ruled a hate crime. If racial animosity is part of the motivation for the attack it’s covered up.
So your claiming the FBI ,Dept. of Justice etc. are covering up crimes blacks commit to make whites look bad yet are run by whites? Your stupid. Stop commenting…
Racism is a problem which black people in America cannot be held in the same standard as white folk. The thing is racism is only applicable when you own things. Black people don’t own much in America and cannot use racism as a mode of exerting power. You’re welcome.
I live in a city that is quite a melting pot, but blacks are a minority here as compared to the latino population. I’d argue that we don’t seem to experience very many race related issues due to being black skinned; latinos on the other hand, that’s different. Our problems are all about illegal immigration. Racial prejudices rear up on both sides here, everyone is guilty.
I have lived in a lot of other states too. I was raised color blind so I take great offence being unjustly accused of something I’m not. But over the years, every bit of racism I experienced was from a black person. It really matters where you live because living here, my black friends and neighbors are all great people. We blend together just fine. Maybe they live here because they also believed they needed to do for themselves, not skirt self responsibility. Now, when I lived in North Carolina and Virginia, wow, people hating me just for being white and there was absolutely no way they could confuse me as a southern local. In the Army, our Command SGT Major was black and she played favorites with black soldiers. It was noticeably out front and center too.Of course nobody said anything because racism from the other side doesn’t exist, right? Whatever makes you sleep at night.
The worst case of racism I experienced cost me a bronze star. A major who was such an asshat was transferred out of his infantry unit and put into our logistics command. This guy hated me the day he met me. He tried to get my soldiers to turn against me, but they never did. I found out and couple months into deployment, this clown was a black freemason who not only hated white people, but he hated white women, especially soldier white women in charge of male soldiers. My NCO, who was also black said he treated her like shit too, just less like shit. Because of him, he refused to recommend me for the bronze star and he gave it to my soldier, which is interesting because when we lined up the award bullet points, mine read like it should have received that star, not to mention, I did all the logistical work for the division for 7 months between Kuwait and Iraq. I hate this person so much that I pray he meets a horrible fate that matches how he treated people.
I’ve been called racist numerous times because I don’t like rap music. Nooo, I don’t like today’s rap music because it’s degrading to women, police and society. I like the old school 80s rap. I’m racist because my truck is camouflaged? What? I love camouflage. It’s my favorite color. I wore it for 13 years in uniform. Also, the camo hides the scratches and dents I get from playing in the desert. Called racist because my dating profile says I have a preference for light skinned men. That’s not true either. I like lighter skin tones, that’s all.This means that I’m not attracted to dark latinos, native americans, or indians either. I’ve dated mixed black men, with lighter complexion.
In light of everything that’s been going on the last few years, it seems like society it’s segregating again, but this time, we are segregating ourselves. The media certainly is guilty of spinning things to get everyone riled up too. I just wish it would all stop. I suppose is human nature to have the need to hate something, hell why not each other. We are a power hungry warring specie.
Can blacks ever be in a position of power in America to even be racist as a whole? I think not just because the way this nation was built. Having black pride is very different from playing the race card. and with this whole enlightenment movement going on I see alot of people awakening to the truth about systemic racism, and emasculating the black and other topics, but to many times they use this knowledge in a perverted way in other to get other blacks on the bandwagon…..At the end of the day we are all Kings and Queens whether you are black or white…Dont kill me black people…I still do acknowledge our stolen heritage dating all the way back to Egypt but you see alot of Egypt being raised back up in or sports and entertainment industries, but not enough is being done to make the entire world ROYALTY!
Our president is Black. The University of Missouri chancellor was forced to resign and be replaced by a black man.
black people are OVERWHELMINGLY racist hypocrites…there is NOTHING black people demand of others, that they volunteer of themselves.
black people also HIDE behind the prattle of so called “multiculturalism” and ‘diversity’…cute euphemisms used by RACIST hypocrites and cowards as the only thing they are actually speaking to is multiracializing white societies alone. from cultural marxist blight and social dysfunctions up to and including interracial mixing as an indicator of “anti racism”…to blatant racial hate and hypocrisy in the form of ideological racist hate of ‘white privilege’ ‘critical race theory’ and so called social justice….ie: consequence free hate.
black people are right there in the midst of it all.. nothing compares to the black racial hate across social, cultural, political, criminal and violent lines. nothing.
sorry.. but ive GIVEN UP on black people long ago. i tend to find that ultimately the most reasonable of black people who ‘sound good’ at the onset…turn out to be the biggest of hypocrites who ultimately hold the worst kind of racial hatred… ideological hate that absolves black people of being able to do any wrong.
AT BEST black people will poo-poo ghetto blacks, dont like to be around that kind of negative and violent environment and people..black or otherwise. but that too is not “non racist”, thats just self serving self interest.
and YES… the author is yet another black racist hypocrite. biologically white females who mix interracially are lowest kinds of feces a woman can be… the fact that black racist cowards refuse to differentiate that kind of social garbage from the women of the racial communities and cultures she is not any part of…is a reflection of your own HATE.
you imagine a difference between yourself and ‘those’ kinds of black people… you are just MORE OF THE SAME hate and bullshit. just as you look to normalize your own mental issues by lifting up that kind of social garbage… where you dont see anything wrong with it.
you are EXACTLY THE SAME as “those” dysfunctional black people you pretend you are different from. go on, call me a racist.. start repeating that same politically correct hate you spent your article PRETENDING to object to… lets watch as you get up in arms in the exact same way black people always do over that possible pitfall.
and those racist black people think they are just as right and reasonable as you.
I still don’t understand why Black People feel the need to tell me I’m behaving like a Stereotypical White Person, or how I speak, talk and carry myself is white. It’s really degrading because I do identify as black and that’s just putting your own race down by saying that being Proper, Intelligent and using Pronunciation in the correct form is being White. You just called your own race Improper, Dumb and Verbally Challenged. I understand accents, I don’t mind if they interfere because people do have strong accents. But, when you’re doing it on purpose. No.
To everyone who continues to make comments regarding black women vs white women because of interracial dating. White women, by far, are one of the most conservative in terms of their dating, marriage, etc men of their own race.
When they date outside of their race, on a per capita measure they date by far the most, white men, then Hispanic, then Asian, and lowest by far blacks, not the reverse.
White men are actually more statistically likely to date interracially. The myths simply aren’t true and provably so.
I am a middle aged “white” woman, and I stumbled across this article by accident. I found it very interesting and hopeful that there can be good race relations in the future. I grew up in a very diverse suburb and had friends of all races. As children we noticed the differences in our skin colors, hair, etc and found them fascinating. We attached no value to the differences. It wasn’t until I grew up that I learned there were “issues” with skin color. In the nearly 50 years I’ve been alive, I feel like those of us who are trying to see past skin color and treat people as individuals are being thwarted by race baiting pundits, politicians, and the like. Since I work in customer service I can’t count how many times I’ve been called “racist” because I tell someone something they don’t like. It used to make me cry, but now it just makes me sad.
Obviously.
fuck the person who wrote this, you are super dumb!!! racism has infused the DNA of almost every institution and racist practices have in many ways become so part and parcel of habits and interaction that they are often not even recognised as such.Centuries of colonialism, slavery and apartheid have left a legacy of institutional racism, where there is instinctive prejudice against dark skins, in societies across the globe.we seem to have very short memories. Fear of the black man just didn’t start overnight, and it didn’t just happen during the course of our lifetime; like any singularity it has to have a beginning. Its origin has been embedded in this nation’s consciousness since the Nat Turner revolt; a pathological fear that the oppressed will one day rise up and inflict vengeance upon the oppressor.
Racism is not just the way that people treat each other, based on the colour of their skin. Anti-racist organizers and scholars have shown how racism–like capitalism–is a structural system, and interpreting racism as simple prejudice just hides this structure. It’s the equivalent of saying corporate capitalism is fine as long as we all treat each other with respect (which works out great for the guy with a yacht and two summer homes). When we understand racism as a structure, “reverse racism” sounds silly. If you’re mean to your boss as a worker, does that make you a “reverse capitalist” who is failing to see that “we’re all human,” and that ‘worker’ and ‘boss’ are just labels?
Many white South Africans and Americans appear to be ignorant of the continuing legacy of “white privilege”. Some argue that poor blacks are in their predicament because of their own doing.
If a people’s education is meant to retard them and hold them in a place created by others, revolt against this systematic onslaught is key!! why aren’t we learning black history?
What caused Africa’s underdevelopment is a complex issue. Europe’s past (and present) exploitation of Africa played a significant part. Before the Europeans arrived in Africa, Africa had vibrant economic, social and political structures. These were severely disrupted by Europeans to create wealth for themselves.
European dominance over most of Africa through the transatlantic slave trade lasted 440 years, from 1444 to 1885.
because privilege conceals itself from those who have it and because White people benefit most from the current systems of racial oppression, White people have a particular tendency to bury our head in the sand on issues of race
Omg, this is the best article that I have ever read. You took every single word out of my mouth.
Please run for president!!!! America needs you!!!!
You are already misguided to refer to nigger abeeds as people. They are not people. They are sub human apes and to call them human beings or people is a travesty of nature and Allah’s wisdom.
The middle east is poor but we also had the three biggest religions come from there, alphabets, hell even Egyptians resembled Arabs not nig nogs. Sub saharans are stupid ass mofos that have no great civilizations.
and Allah in his wisdom segregated you in the desert to don’t pollute the mind of sane people.
Loits of racial problems where I live. The West indians hate the Africans (who generally hate each other as well), the Pakistani’s and Indians hate each other, and the Asians hate everyone. The white people generally don’t really bother with race, as they hate the aristocracy.
People need to find something to blame for their failure, so rather than blame their attitude they blame the skin colour. My nephew is multi-raced, all the racism he has endured has been from non-whites. He has a ‘white’ mentality, which meant he succeeded in getting accepted into a private school on a scholarship (for academia, not sport), and is now a nuclear physicist.
Of course, according to some, it’s because he comes form a ‘white’ family, but that hasn’t change the colour of his skin, just his mentality towards it.
Very well said, great article
I wish this article could be read in mass by the black population, it’s one of the the best articles I’ve read covering race and racism, the problem is I think most black folks would just hate on the author for writing it and disagree with most of it unfortunately.
SBPDL dot com covers this topic really well.
The far right and left are both socially inept so If we all stand in the middle and let the RIGHT and LEFT crazies cut their arms and legs off then we’ll all be normal ! ;D Politics are a game of tug of war. Start pulling to the right this time please ! We’ve had enough BS for a while! ugh !
Welp! nothing but a bunch of uncle tom self hating blacks in these comments. not surprised anyway the truth is whites are the most racist in the world. they have a system against black people . called institutional white supremacy (racism). they enslaved blacks in the past they still do with the prison industrial system today. they have broken black culture and caused black people to hate each other and themselves. shows in the comments. they exploited black culture and have stolen from them (Egyptian artifacts and gold) and now reap the resources of africa while africa suffers from poverty and globalization whites created. honestly when did black people telling the truth turn into black people whining and complaining the real idea here is black people have been saying this since it happened and NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT UNTIL YEARS AND YEARS OF PUTTING UP WITH IT THAT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE BLACKS ARE THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF. you know it is not the fault of black people that they don’t get treated fairly. it really is uncle tom blacks who work for whites and do not support black people but want to be an employee for white people and other races and buy from other races instead of investing in each other and supporting each other. just like the coon blacks that kill each other and poison our children with government hip hop propaganda that is destroying our youth!. but hey im just another black complaining right?. one last thing i am going to say is the more you continue to ignore racism and put up with it the more it will continue to exist and prevail. those white jews rely on black people to disenfranchise each other and judging by the comments here it is working.
wooow you could have teach Hitler how to really hate other races. Your a reference for all true pure racist, that’s how racism should be done, white have a lot to learn from you.
This has to be satire or this writer is delusional. Dude just sounds pissed because Atlanta is socially segregated and he can’t chase after white girls as effectively.
Move to the west coast so you can jam to your favorite white musicians and be around all the white girls you want.
I laugh at the idea that white people are somehow victims of black segregationist in Atlanta. So much ignorance it’s funny. I guess when your universe revolves around chasing white girls everything else will confuse you.
Only racist feel racism.
I was recently in the USA, not in some backwater southern community, but in Illinois (maybe that is backwater, I don’t know) nevertheless I walked into a Subway with a friend to order lunch. Just inside, just in front of us was a well dressed very tall black man, we both thought he was kind of cute, and he seemed to be taking his time wandering over to a table of people so we just kept walking up to the counter where you order and started looking at the menu while the cashier finished with his customer. Then the black gentleman walked over and started looking behind the glass at the ingredients. That was fine with us, maybe he’d never been to a Subway before. I hardly ever eat out, there are loads of places I have never eaten at. The cashier came over started putting on some gloves and asked my friend and I what we would like. The black fellow started in “Hey hey.” He was very smooth. “What about me?” he says, smiling, pointing to himself. “Am I invisible?” The cashier looked at my friend and I. “He just wandered over to look at the ingredients” I said, then we made our order. The black fellow says “I must be invisible. You were like pacing me or something.” I never said anything more to him, the cashier never said a thing to us, not a single word beyond what we needed to communicate to complete our order. Needless to say the spirit of having lunch was mostly ruined. I want to point out a couple details. I referred to him as black and male and tall and well dressed and smooth because it describes what he looked like and spoke like. I am HALF Chinese and I look it. I’m also female and very petite, and I have more freckles than you would ever expect a girl to have. My friend is very obviously a Latino, and very attractive and dresses very professionally. The cashier was a handsome and probably Vietnamese fellow. And who was being racist? I cannot express my surprise at having witnessed this. Certainly it is my first racial episode with a black man. I’m from Toronto. Racism from Indians (Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims etc.) is very common place here. But I have never had an experience like this with a black man in Canada. I understand the racial history of the USA and it’s terrible, but if black Americans want to see an end to racism, engaging in it themselves is only going to lead to increased conflict. As a result I am finding my defence of black people against racists (of ANY colour) weakening.
If he was found guilty there would had been riots instantly. He is jail again and that is where he was to be.
That was a very well informative prospective from an educated black man. I am 100 % itailian so by today’s standard that makes me white. But I also went to college and the military were race relations were quite different. I never understood why a black man could not be a conservative without being called uncle Tom. But after leaving the military I can’t believe how bad race relations are. I had one black guy tell me I was just afraid of the black mans penis I told him it was 2015 and I could care less about whether or not he had a white girlfriend. I mean come on get over it lets move forward our country is in big trouble and race should be at the bottom problems we are facing.
I think the only way to end this once and for all, is to be truthful about it. From all level of society, not just on these blogs or the sparse amount of youtube video. This nation needs to stop spreading the lie that Black are being repress. It simply is not true, and will only breed ignorance.
The people with the greatest power to start this movement is the media. People like Stephen Colbert, and Jon Stewart should speak the truth and bring light to misconception. They do it on many other topics, but when it comes to race and religion, they shy away and say whatever the popular opinion is. And the opinion now is be apologetic to Black and tell ourselves that there is no problem.
I will agree that racism is wrong, but I would also suggest that sexism is also wrong. You lost me on the off topic misogynistic tangent you went on, and even if it wasn’t offensive, which it was; you might consider that a revision of the article might be in order. Even more so because while on one hand it seems to criticize one form hate, it seems to support yet another.
Black people don’t benefit from racism, there for we can’t be racist.
black people turn out to be the racist b”””””ds no wonder the cops beat down on them their ego is above critical level and they treat us differently thats racist if a white man treated a white cop differently they would get a beat down
Blacks are by far the most racist of al ethnic groups. The Washington post did a mass survey of all ethnic groups and found that blacks were overwhelmingly voted as the most racist.
Joe Supervill, is that you?
Well said. My feelings exactly, but I am not able to state this as clear and as well.
bullets anyone? enough is enough
Field nigger vs house nigger mentality. One has always been pro white supremacy and the other is a victim.
As a white who has been attacked both physically and verbally by blacks, I am so glad that there are real black human beings. When I was little and saw a black person for the first time I thought she was burnt like those cartoon characters. Unlike most she just laughed and explained we are all different and I said “that’s cool”. I thought it was cool to see people so different yet so similar. But I guess I expected too much or maybe not enough. Little blacks kept saying the N word and when I said it I was called a racist. I didn’t understand what happened. Later those same type of kids criticized me for being short, pale, and claiming I have no skill at anything when they don’t even know who I am. I don’t even know who they are. Well clearly if I said or copy anything from black kids I was attacked. At first it was just verbal abuse but over time as I got older(in the 7th grade) verbal abuse turned to physical abuse. Nearly every black person I met mistreated me and I had no idea why. Other races including my own were mean too but they pale in comparison to the blacks. No pun intended. Other races didn’t use the word white in everything they said neither did they get all personal like saying “I fucked your mother”, ect. so I started to distrust blacks and was about to hate them all. But one day a black dude showed up and saw all the blacks jumping on me over basketball saying stuff like “whites can’t play basketball. Basketball is a black sport. Whites have no skill. Whites are too short. Are y’all really going to let this weak white dude best y’all?” Even though me and my brother was better than them. I had defense and my brother had offense and we both had teamwork. Well the new black guy asked me why were they attacking me and I simply told him that I have no clue. After that we became friends and I learned that not all blacks are sorry worthless jerks. And after learning a little history I can understand why old blacks are filled with white hatred but the new blacks shouldn’t. What’s stupid is that they complain about whites owning black slaves when it was blacks who sold them out and owned them first, and it was whites that set them free which is why y’all are free today while blacks are still slaves in Africa by other blacks. The idiotic hypocrisy of these racial blacks are just unbearable. I’ve been a victim of hate by racists, police, girls, and I don’t go around complaining about it everyday of my life and taking my anger out on other races, police, or girls. I’ve been more of a victim than half of these sorry excuse of black people. Black pride no longer exist because of these people. They took everything MLK Jr. did and turned it around. He proved blacks were equal to whites and were better by not being so judgmental and full of hate. But now his own grave is being stomped on by the very people he died for. Jesus died for our sins and MLK Jr. died for the equality and unity of our races and now both deaths have been in vain. I’m so sick of racism. It is the most stupidest excuse of hatred with no meaning nor reason, just a complete waste of life. I hope more black brothers come out and fight back for their pride, their equality, their respect for whites against these disgrace of both Jesus and MLK Jr.. Note to self: if a black man attacks me and I kick his ass, call a black police officer.
I’ve lived in Atl since 3 and agree 100% about how this town is. My school had an M to M program where they bussed inner city kids to my metro school. I worked in a Mexican restaurant where I was the only “gringo” even though I speak Spanish. I worked in a bank where I was the only white guy. Later on I went to a graduate school where I was the only US student.
What I have seen is that any group is inherently tribalistic, and they require special training to not do this. White people tend to be the least racist because they are the only ones who usually get called on their tribalistic tendencies.
Tribalism takes on a different flavor with each group. Blacks tend to be angry and will act irrationally and violently, with an attitude bordering on fascism. I have seen them do extremely hypocritical things victimizing white people and act like they have the right to do so. For instance, at that bank I routinely sold CD and other accounts to customers, who had to come back the next day when they weren’t busy. Every time they came back the black store greeter would tell them that they didn’t need to work with me (often becoming belligerent) and she would just sign them up, stealing my commission. I confronted her about it and she said that the people didn’t fight to work with me because I didn’t make a good enough impression on them with my personality – basically in her mind I didn’t have enough “flava” to earn commissions. She even tried to do and say this with people who were or became my friends or dates outside of work. She would actually get angry when called on these things.
Other groups have a different tone to their tribalism like I said. Latinos are the closest to blacks of the groups I have encountered. Latinos tend to think of themselves as super stylish, and anyone else as lame just because they don’t speak Spanish or embrace their culture. They have lots of anger but less related to tribalism and more because of things they think are wrong. If there is a conflict due to cold logic they will focus more on how it is wrong to be so calculating rather than just jumping straight to “Kill whitey”.
The Indians in gradschool tended to be different – maybe closer to white tribalism without the training not to act that way. They tended to think they were smarter than US students (they weren’t, unless you were comparing grad students to undergrads) but felt no compulsion to prove it. They tended to act kind of petty and gossip about other groups in Hindi where the other person could not respond. Chinese were just really reserved and secretive to people outside their group, but it was clear they also thought they were smarter than everyone else. The only group in grad school that didn’t come across this way was the Iranians. They were still tribalism, but they were super confrontational and so all prejudices were dispelled through interaction.
White people are also tribalistic of course. We tend to repress our emotions and reason through things with cold logic (Irish and some other groups excluded). When we see someone get mad at something that they brought on themselves, or want something that only will make the situation worse we see that person as kind of stupid – and really we are right. It’s when we assume this about someone because they are part of a group that it crosses the line, and this gets dispelled through interaction and confrontation. We were forced to confront these prejudices when civil rights groups stood up for themselves in an intelligent manner.
I have dated people from all of these groups and had enough interaction with them that these are not just anecdotes, but pretty pervasive behaviors.
What I have seen is that the number one enemy of tribalism, prejudice, and racism is honest confrontation of opposing ideas. When this happens, invalid prejudices are dispelled. If it’s a valid prejudice, then sorry you have to take that up with yourself.
Blacks who are too angry to confront opposing ideas honestly are making it worse – it’s not physical confrontation that helps it. It also doesn’t work when some biased media organization tells white people they are all racist and there is no such thing as black racism, and then doesn’t address any responses. It’s attitudes like these that created Zimmerman and killed Trayvon. When strong proud white men see arguments and behavior like this that are beyond reason we devolve into race war mode.
I agree black people get a pass for their racism. I’m not naive enough to believe racism is gone. To me a racist is a racist. Color has nothing to do with it. I am a black woman and I have met some white women who were very nice. My favorite Teachers were white women. I fail to see how hating people based on skin color and old grudges is going to make my life better. I think the best revenge against racists is to be the best person you can be. Black people can be hella nasty to each other. I’ve seen videos made by black men that are so racist and misogynistic towards black women. You’d swear they were made by storm front.
Daring to have a different opinion or not be consumed by hatred marks you as a traitor.
A lot of black people have become just as bad if not worse than white supremacists.
I enjoyed your article. It’s nice to see things from all perspectives. I believe you make valid points, you articulate some points effectively. On the other hand, I do believe you lack psychological understanding of why some black people behave the way they do.
Peer reviewed studies show racism is linked to a lower IQ. You pointed out, you’re an educated man. Compare and contrast white trailer trash with the behavior you point out about black people. It all has to do with education.
I am a white female (Muslim) prior to marriage. My husband is from Tunisia (Arab not black). When his country gained independence from French colonialism, the top priority the first president implemented was education. Up until the Tunisian revolution, Tunisia was number 1 in literacy in all of Africa. For an Arab country, Tunisia was the most tolerant. Racism is not an issue in Tunisia (at least not on the surface) due to education.
Have you ever bothered to study the quality of teachers in black communities? Do you not comprehend there is a correlation between access to proper education and poverty? Do you not understand unemployment is double that of the white community? 51% of black youth are unemployed. WHY? I did a paper in college, the wealthy do feel less empathy. (living in a bubble so to speak). I am sure I do not need to convince you, America (according to Princeton is an oligarchy) and businesses do have institutional racism.
America overall, has an education issue. I grew up around black and Hispanics back in Connecticut. Many of them were extremely angry individuals mostly from troubled broken homes. I was a victim of black/Latino racism growing up. However, my dearest friend is black. We took the time to get to know each other to find commonalities. People with lower IQ tend to cluster together by default. Attribute that to lower quality education.
There was a study I read, you can look it up. They closed a project. Relocated half of the mostly black people to another project and scattered the other half into the suburbs by shifting them to section 8 instead of housing. The high school graduation rate was 80% vs 40% for their peers shuffled into another project. Out of the 80% high school grads 60% went onto college. I believe this is a perfect example to explain the root cause of ‘poor behavior’. I can promise you low income white people suffer the sickness of ignorance just as much.
There is a clear double standard regarding the verbal abuse white individuals have to tolerate culturally. ‘White guilt’, sure. I remember when Chris Rock called white people crackers whilst hosting the MTV music awards in my teen years. I changed the channel. I remember a black comedian justifying the double standard due to the fact white people own the country so black people earned the right to say whatever they want to say. I suppose there is merit and justification in the minds of people who think like this, however, a proper education would force people to comprehend, internal feelings manifest into behaviors sub conscientiously which ultimately keeps one from progressing.
I believe many poor people fail due to self fulfilling prophecy (metaphorically). If I walk around my entire life believing the world owes me something and no matter how hard I try, I will never get ahead.. this is the mindset I will project, ultimately leading to failure.
70% of black children are born into a single parent home. This has a devastating effect on emotional development. As you know, statistically, the number 1 cause of divorce/breakups is financial. Black communities have been impoverished for generations. How to break the cycles? Education.
Education in parenting, STEM subjects (USA as a whole is seriously lacking), jobs training, free tuition to colleges, more money put into after school programs especially in low income neighborhoods would remedy many social ills you’re describing. I would also like to point out GOP states suffer racial inequality more so than blue states. Education is usually the first slashed in state budgets.
Thomas Moore stated it eloquently, “For if you suffer your people to be ill-educated, and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them, what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them.”
Apply this logic to drug users, (big pharma), prostitutes (economic disadvantage and lack of parenting), etc…
Finally, pointing out to an individual ‘people in other countries have it a lot more difficult than you do’ will NOT work. Why? The human brain can only concentrate and feel ‘true empathy’ for what one suffers through. People lack the capacity statistically to feel grateful whilst suffering. A hungry man is an angry man regardless if someone in Haiti is eating mud pies (yes there are videos of that). Peer reviewed studies prove this as well.
It’s tiresome, but if I were you, and you truly want to make a difference, Educate others. You cannot force people to read material, but you can state things in Layman’s terms to change one’s perspective. Good luck
It seems to me your vision has been tainted as mine was for many many years. I am a 23 year old mixed race female and I too used to live by this notion of color blindness.
Of course black people can be racist towards white people but when we look at the bigger picture how does this really affect the Caucasian race? If might make them upset but let’s face it, it has no real impact on their economics, relationships and standards of life.
You may be oblivious to it but the black race are still at the bottom of the totem pole no matter how much you believe that everyone is equal.
It’s all well and good you saying slavery is over and done with and to get over it but what you are failing to realise is such traumatic events don’t just affect the people present at the time. Behaviour and attitudes are passed down from generations to generations. You can try and brush off all theses horrific events because they are not happening in this present day but unfortunately the lasting affects can not be brushed off so easily. You hear about people that have been through horrible experiences e.g sexual abuse and it can take them years and years to recover even with therapy and psychological help. When black people were ‘relieved’ from slavery what help did they have? These are people who have been separated from their children and husbands, were beaten continuously, painfully experimented on by white doctors and raped by the white man. And the joke is even after ‘slavery was over’ Caucasians would feel no way about going and hanging your black uncle with NO CONSEQUENCES. You learn from your parents…it is a scientific fact. So imagine living with a depressed, beaten down, self conscious mother/father. Any normal person who had been through this would see the Caucasian race as heartless monsters. So what on earth would their children think? And their children? And so on and so forth….
The same goes for this supposed hate you believe black women have for white women. White supremacy is so predominant in his day in age. The white woman is perceived as being the most beautiful, desirable women in the world. Look at all of these Bollywood films. More time than not they use the lightest Asians they can find as people consider this as ‘more aesthetically pleasing’. In western culture black women’s features are exploited and insulted whereas when a white women adopts these features it is seen as a revolution. Look at kylie Jenner and her fake lips. On many occasions I have heard white people making snide remarks about black girls. I have even heard a white woman with her mixed raced kids exclaim ‘no wonder nobody likes black girls’. I find that absolutely popsterous! Without that black girl you wouldn’t have even had your cute little mixed kids cos their father would not exist. And on top of that your kids are half black! So are you going to be bringing them up on the notion that nobody likes black girls? PLEASE. I am not saying it is right for black girls to look down on white girls I am simply saying blacks girls are looked down on by the world, including men of there own race. Now if black girls ridiculed by men of all races (I very rarely see a white man with a black woman) then I sorry there is going to be a natural feeling of disgust towards the white woman cos they seem to get more praise and more attention from a black woman’s natural historical mate. The mixed race is the fastest growing race in the whole world and I haven’t done my research but just from looking around I can see a lot of white baby mums with mixed race kids..me being one of them.
Lets face it the Causcasian race as a whole haven’t really gone through as many hardships as other races. If anything they are the ones who have caused hardships throughout Africa by exploiting all of the riches from their land and benefitting from it…even going to America and taking over the land of the natives. I’m not saying they deserve hate but for you to compare racism aimed at whites with racism aimed at blacks is ridiculous. And the disregard you have for the hardships placed on the black community is down right ignorant.
My mother is white and I love her very much. But I’m willing to accept that she did not educate me on my black heritage (probably cos she had no idea about it) and neither did my black dad because he is in the system that tells you everyone is equal and racism is over cos we arent picking cotton anymore. But do your research and start opening your mind instead of living inside a bubble of ignorance because the opinions you have are the reason why the black race aren’t doing as well as others economically.
I am aware I’m going on and on so I’m gonna stop now but I recommend this video I found it very interesting http://youtu.be/XRQ-Ci6LwVw
Interesting, out here in CA as a white male I feel more aligned with African Americans than I do any other demographic. The whole race thing via media and college just confuses the issue.
Many civilizations have been oppressed and enslaved throughout history. The Romans conquered and enslaved Arabs, Jews and Gauls. The Mongels conquered most of Asia. The Aztecs and Mayans enslaved multiple indigenous peoples. The list goes on and on throughout history.
African Americans will only succeed if they move on from the past and integrate with American culture.
That is preposterous and leans on “don’t blame the victim” mentality. I won’t go into my personal history for you, but let’s just say that if I suffer from PTSD from verifiable conditions, then my children are doomed to be non-functioning members of society? They deserve to get a free pass?
Errr…you are of course aware that one black tribe beat the hell out of another black tribe and then proceeded to sell the losers into slavery, right? So according to your logic, shouldn’t you be angrier at the blacks who pimp slapped your ancestors and sold them into slavery than you are the whites who died by the hundreds of thousands to set them free?
As a young white male I was exposed to African American men of high integrity and character through my involvement in sports and military. Black coaches and leaders in the military showed me that a good man’s skin color doesn’t matter. As a teacher in urban CA I’ve realized, unfortunately, that black youth in the inner city are not exposed to positive older white males. Truth. Unfortunate. Able white males are to blame for this.
“Able white males are to blame for this.”Hahaha Always. It never ends.
Self-accountability? Heard of it?
Mike, a blanket statement is not “self-accountability”. If you are to model that you would say, “I was not a positive white male influence.”
I believe you got the reaction you did for precisely that reason. My take away was that you walked into CA urban schools and noted that all the “other” white males were screwing up. Again, that is not self-accountability.
In other words, nobody needs you to scold them. Mind your own garden.
Tooj,
Your well-reasoned account of why my glib response elicited a response like the one it did is appreciated. I think leadership and proactiveness is now lacking in the public sphere. We “white men” need to get out more in the community. It kills me when Black and Latino coworkers, like our couselore told me yesterday, that I don’t see race. Most good people don’t see race. If more white men modeled this, this article would not be written in the year 2016.
Black inner city youth dont need to be exposed to good whites. They need their own fathers, period.
Took,
The only other white males I work with stay in their room and cower, kiss ass to get all the advanced kids, or sell rely on selling the multicultural agenda. Yes, my phrasing was poor, thanks for the correction.
I don’t disagree, they need their fathers(and good mothers). However, the reason for rampant black racism is that they are not exposed to good white men. This article addresses black racism.
I’m pleased that your response wasn’t the usual “web response” that you were being attacked. You weren’t.
I’ll go one step further and return to a blanket style statement that “men need to model positive values, race excluded”. Our lack of this can be correlated to racism (from any race), misandry and misogyny. As the writer infers, there is a culture in the black community of being racist towards whites because it is “the thing to do”. Who teaches that? Isn’t the lack of fathers in black families a warning to those who ascribe to the MGTOW (Men Go Their Own Way) ideology?
Men accepting (not all men) the crazy PC, liberal feminist ideology have a responsibility for that choice, as it is with any choice made.
There’s a billboard on Highway 24 just as you enter Topeka, KS from the east. It is a picture of John Wayne in his typical cowboy garb. It has the text: “Don’t much like quitters, son. Grit, pass it on.” I’d like to meet the person who paid for that.
Too bad white policy, including welfare, killed the black family.
We need a few billboards like that here in CA.
You’ll have to forgive me, it’s kind of loud here at the Evil White Man Institution for World Domination.You know it’s hard to hear people here with all the cries of Non-whites in the background being oppressed for training purposes of course. You sound like a Cuck.
No. Not a cuck at all. However, I stand firm that if more white men were out practicing masculine, communal values we wouldn’t be in this mess with women and black folk. Sitting in an office, living in a gated community, or being a hipster ass doors nothing to show that white men are not the cause of societal problems.
Got a huge one of those by me. It was paid for by values.com
Thanks, I’ll look them up!
Well go to infowars.com basically the ex-slave owners teamed up with the democrats to make the jim crow laws the KKK and the black panthers so they could get more people in jail because slavery is legal in jail.
“Who’s more racist, white people or black people? Black people. Why? Cuz they hate black people too!” – Chris Rock
I like this article ! Yeah !
Yes.
In the US? Yes. Of course, they are told they are inferior since birth by the people around them and it’s reinforced in public institutions and government mandates (lowered standards, hiring practices, etc…). Although the US obsession with race is nuts and socially unhealthy, I understand why it is advantageous for poltical gain for certain groups.
Differences in independently evolved biological-cultural groups are real, ideology is not.
I agree with the former, but not the latter. Ideology is different, but I understand that it depends on the devolpment of the society and its cultural background.
Just so the author knows: black women hating on white women has little, if any, to do with race. Women generally hate their competitors, who almost always happen to be other women.
Really? As a white woman in Atlanta I rarely receive the kind of hateful and downright evil treatment from most white women as I do from virtually 95% of black women.
A very well written article which covers all the bases.
Bravo.
Black People Are More Racist!
Remember when a Boston University posted the bigoted statement below? She was not fired nor even reprimanded. She’s an EDUCATOR for fuck’s sake.
That would be Saida Grundy. She supposedly apologized, but to whom I have no idea. Hopefully it was to every white college male she ran into.
I’m Nate Higgers and I REALLY hate racism.
The fact that Jessie Jackson who has made his views about Jews and Whites very well known and Al Sharpton who just made up a fake rape story involving a black woman and several white cops are taken serious still today shows you the blatant double standard. Anyone white person that engineered anything like Sharpton did back in the 80’s would be working manual labor (if that) instead of having his own TV show on MSNBC. Sharpton wouldn’t even pay off his civil judgement for years until friends finally did it for him.
Ferguson is another example of “accepted bigotry”. Rioting left unchecked. Business owners ruined. Violence portrayed by the MSM as “justice”. All for some trumped up cop shooting. Whereas, you have actually productive ranchers out in the West trying to protect themselves from the encroaching federal government constructively attempting to shut down their business and all the sudden you have “domestic terrorists”.
People like Trump because he speaks his mind. No one thinks that he is going to be the next great Statesman. He will be someone though that finally gets the SJW to finally shut up.
What upsets me about our current race relations in America is that I have had plenty of interactions with black people that I found to be friendly, warm and encouraging. I spent time with several black men that I gained some worldly wisdom from, and I respect them and remember them fondly to this day.
However, as a group, I cannot trust blacks. They are easily enticed to violence, crime and victim-hood to direct their worst nature against our society and civilization overall. Places like Philadelphia have become intolerable to visit, hell even black neighborhoods in my small town are 3 block long war-zones.
At this time its incumbent of the black community to show “whitey” that they are policing their own and getting their collective shit together, I have extended my hand enough, our culture has shown too much altruism already. Blacks need to begin demonstrating responsibility and put some skin in the game if they want to be taken seriously again as proud American citizens. Because as of right now, I see them segregating themselves and pissing on the country that treats them better than anywhere else in the world. Embrace your heritage, but be American first.
Good article.
I’m glad this gentleman has seen the light but it’s way too late. There’s a one sided race war being waged right now by blacks on whites. Black on white crime is over 7x the opposite. Blacks have destroyed virtually every urban environment and the cities run by blacks too? OMGoodness, Run Forest Run.
I like to say that 95% of blacks are ruining it for the other 5%. There are indeed several million wonderful black people living in this country but that leaves almost 40 MILLION assholes. And these assholes are, hands down, the most racist people you will ever encounter in your life. I know because there was a time that I had more black “friends” that just about any white person you’ve ever met.
For the past 5 years I have lived in small towns that are almost 100% black free. Guess what? I can walk around the central part of town at night without fear of getting murdered. There’s almost no crime and the town I live in now is over 70% latino.
Ask yourself this, would America be a better place to live if there were no blacks here? If our cities were centers of a culture that celebrates hard work, ambition and personal responsibility? I’m constantly hearing how racist the 50s were but our ancestors practiced segregation for what is now an all apparent reason.
The Sterling bullshit really made my blood boil. In fact, I stopped watching basketball because of it, despite loving and playing the game my whole life. Yeah the guy’s a racist and probably a douche in other ways as well. But he was forced to sell a business that he built because of some un-PC language that a bunch of millionaire pussies like Lebron James were upset about?
Really?
Is this America or fucking Stalinist Russia? Frankly everyone involved in making that happen is an enemy of common sense and progress.
As a white man…I have dated black women and they absolutely hate white women.
I was married to a half black, 100% Hispanic, woman who hated all women who were not Hispanic. So, I guess it is not just black women. All women have a huge in-group bias, and race/ethnicity is one dimension for measuring who is in-group and who is not.
I’m a black guy so I guess I’ll give the opposite opinion to @vitaowner:disqus – My thing is when, or if, black people begin chaining, shipping, enslaving, selling, lynching, raping, oppressing, exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing, evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, bombing, segregating, building highways and thruways to dislocate businesses, communities and neighborhoods; write books to say how stupid white people are, creating SUN-DOWN towns, experimenting on, discriminating against, prohibiting, murdering, holding back/controlling in every imaginable way while HATING WHITE PEOPLE en mass via de jure and de facto racism for HUNDREDS of years, then and only then can saying black people are more racists make whites can ,make sense.
Well said. I like this site, and they usually have some good articles on culture, it’s just unfortunate that everything written on race brings out the white bigots and self-hating uncle toms like the author of this piece.
So it makes sense then… lol.
So while you will be busy abusing others and fighting the police in your revenge delirium, Donovan will be enjoying a happy life respecting others…
So you really believe that African didn’t do any of this in their history?
“chaining, shipping, enslaving, selling, lynching, raping, oppressing,
exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing,
evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, bombing, segregating” they are pretty good at it
The difference is that they haven’t so far being powerful enough to do it to others races, they do this between themselves only…
Name me time when black people have did that to whites ? Exactly. You can’t. Be quiet
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Well said. This is the best article I’ve ever read.
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