I am not a Christian but regard it as (tragically) amusing that precious little attention is paid to the declining fortunes (and numbers) of Christians in the Middle East. SJW and other “discourse” is replete with grossly exaggerated allegations of Islamophobia, whether in the context of American foreign policy debates or the purported “racism” within Western countries.
Yet the biggest existential threat to any religious group in both the Middle East and First World is actually against Christians in Arab Muslim-majority lands. Because countries like Saudi Arabia have official policies banning the free and open practicing of Judaism and Christianity, or prosecute intense de facto discrimination that ignores any constitutional or other legal lip service to “tolerance,” almost every Muslim Syrian or other Islamic refugee should be resettled in the Arabian heartlands.
There are far fewer places where Christians are welcomed in the world, so the West should prioritize their resettlement above all other groups.
The sad religious demographics of Iraq
How many Arab regimes in 2015 will elevate a Catholic like Tariq Aziz to anything above a meaningless secretarial position?
Ironically, the best friend of Iraq’s Christian community was Saddam Hussein. Although he definitely murdered his direct political opponents and many members of non-Sunni Arab groups, such as the Shias and Kurds, whom he found troublesome, his religious tolerance was far and away better than that now endorsed by many elements of Iraqi society (and that’s not including ISIS).
One of Saddam’s chief lieutenants, Tariq Aziz, who served as both Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister, was a Chaldean Catholic, a group which has links with the regular Roman Catholic Church.
Iraq’s Christian population prior to the 2003 American-led invasion was probably around 1.5 million, somewhere between 5 and 10% of citizens. It was estimated at 200,000-400,000 in the middle of 2014, before further waves of ISIS massacres and repressions which killed thousands and forced many of the rest to flee across or simply out of the country.
Certainly tens of thousands of Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds have died during this time, but none of these groups is facing any kind of physical or cultural extinction. That cannot be said of Iraq’s Christians.
Considering that the once dominant Sunni Arab population, which constitutes about 30% of Iraq’s population, is feeling sidelined by the Shia majority, the situation is even worse for Iraqi Christians, who have insignificant support from the major political blocs. These blocs are run primarily on ethnic and religious lines, not as broad parties endorsing non-sectional ideologies.
The plight of Christians in other countries
The restoration of a theoretically secular regime in Egypt has not brought it out of the doldrums when it comes to religious intolerance against Christians.
Lebanon, which has the largest proportion of Christians in the Middle East, is still limping from its years of civil war and more recent examples of sectarian tensions and bloodshed. Muslim sects in the country may have “rallied” together to condemn national and regional violence against Christians, but the writing is very unambiguously on the wall.
Like in most countries, Muslim birthrates are much higher (and their populations younger) and Christians, with their greater representation in commerce and other arenas, are less inclined to engage themselves in Christian equivalents of martial religious political parties like Hezbollah.
Nominally “secular” Egypt, whose military deposed Islamist President Mohammed Morsi, remains a hotbed of anti-Christian sentiment, irrespective of the Coptic Orthodox minority living there being relatively large. The Pew Research Center has noted a strong continuity in anti-Christian attacks between the days of Morsi and the subsequent military takeover.
Egypt’s place as the Arab world’s most populous country makes such a state of affairs especially shocking. One need not go to Saudi Arabia or the other more traditionally religious Persian Gulf regimes of Qatar, Bahrain, or the United Arab Emirates to find either state-sponsored religious repression or prolific street-level bigotry.
This is not meant to be an exhaustive account by any stretch, but the Palestinian Christians also deserve some recognition. They number less than 2.5% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza today, most likely around 1%, but in 1920 were 10% of the local Arab population. Today, more than 10% of all Palestinians, those within Palestine or outside it, are professed Christians. The extent to which they are not welcome or feel like foreigners in their ancestral lands is a microcosm of the isolation and pain felt by Christians across the Middle East.
Middle Eastern Christians are victims of Western political correctness
Don’t expect photographs like these to be disseminated about Middle Eastern Christian families, who face oppression regardless of whether there’s war or peace.
Western elites and SJWs will play the Islamophobia and race card at every opportunity. It is fine to defame their own societies, which are by and large thoroughly tolerant, if not over-tolerant. Nevertheless, they will never dare take the logical and moral step, in the interests of true tolerance, of challenging why the Middle East is becoming more and more inhospitable for Christians.
Many may hate their governments in the Middle East. This should not, however, be confused with a renunciation of anti-Christian bigotry by many of these disaffected citizens. They are not mutually exclusive positions.
Already despising the traditionalism associated with Christianity in the West, SJWs and others feel there is no political capital to be gained from responding to the needs of a much more systematically oppressed Middle Eastern Christian community. In the meantime, diplomatic and other channels that could utilized on behalf of these Christians are ignored to advance realpolitik with local Arab regimes.
Should you hear the words “humanitarianism” and “tolerance” when the topic of Middle Eastern refugees or asylum seekers comes up, you can bet your bottom dollar that both are being applied unevenly, without Christians in mind.
So Muslims are persecuting Christians in Arabic countries? It’s obviously the fault of the Eskimo bankers
Its a Genocide, pure and simple…and the United States should bring in these Christians…if the Pope weren’t a communist maybe he could have been some help. Instead, true to his prophecised place as the final Pope, he is more concerned about global warming.
America is slowly changing though. What used to be a land that promoted “freedom OF religion” has been promoting “freedom FROM religion”.
No refugees from the Middle east period. They must stay in the Middle East.
Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for Everyone and Anyone is NOT the answer. ITs White genocide.
In that case we need to get out of America and give it back to the Native Americans.
Only if the Muslims leave Europe.
The question would then become, where do the half black and half white people belong?
What a fucking dumb reply and I’m not even a Yank. Conquerors don’t have to get out of anywhere
Have you ever heard of “agree and amplify”? Look it up, and try not get your panties in a bunch.
then cant really say much about blacks and middle easterners “conquering” europe
the dumb reply would be misusing genocide like feminist use misogyny, ask the boers,rodingya,tutusi,bosnians,jews and armenians what genocide is.
Nothing wrong with being a nationalists since they respect their homelands and others, but white nationalists only get called racist by moderates when it comes to the hypocrisy about the new world so it paints a bad image of them…So careful what you say.
Have you ever heard of ”go and fuck yourself”.
And your point is?
Should have fought harder. But yet there are more “native Americans” alive today than have ever existed when they were simple nomadic hunter-gatherers. Estimated number was not more than a million on the whole North American continent.
The whole “Dancing with the wolves” historical narrative really beclowns people. It was a little more complicated than that.
yeah, as long as we get to take spaceships, cars, modern medicine, the bill of rights, constitution, the name and map of America etc with us
Sorry but America isn’t a white country…I’m black, white, and Native American and I would have say America for Americans. If im not mistaken, anybody born in America would be American, same with Africa and Asia.
Good luck trying to convince Asian people that outsiders born there belong to their nation.
What makes you American is the legal requirements of citizenship (eg. anchor babies should not) and the acceptance of the underlying principles (eg. Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc..) and upholding them. I know a US army officer born in Korea and has done more deployements to the sandbox this last decade than most.
However flooding a country with immgrants to seek (1)direct economic benefit (as happening in the US) or (2) overwhelm them to change the demographics of a country (EU) is a direct assault on the people themselves. As if a nations laws no longer matter and the current crop of “ivy leauge wonder kids” have absolutely no solutions how to resolve it, so open the arms to “change” (because they lack the will to do anything about it).
We are heading for hard, bloody times.
Most of the world’s countries are by definition ethno-states. It’s only recently that Europe and the US have intentionally tried to change this by stupidly doing the same thing Emperor Valens did in fourth century Rome: invite the hordes in, thinking that if you’re nice to them, they can be of value to you. That ended well. Valens was murdered and his army destroyed just two years later… by the very Goths he invited in.
But hey… keep on encouraging this kind of stuff, and brush up on your Spanish.
The very Goths he had invited in on harsh terms, forcing them to leave their old, frail and sick north of the Donau to get murdered by Huns. After which he didn’t even honor the terms himself, refusing them food and land as promised, instead offering them the opportunity to get an income by selling their children into slavery.
Lamenting about how the evil savage Goths turned on the empire that let them in is imperial hypocrisy at its rankest. If the West treats the refugees like Valens treated the Goths, it damn well deserves to fall to Islamic invasion.
Excellent article. Muslims will claim to be Christians to get what they want.
And to prove you are, you’ll have to eat a ham and cheese sandwich.
All that with a smooth rendition of the ‘Our Father’ as well or else..
Three “Our Fathers” and two “Hail Mary’s”.
And recite the Apostle’s Creed.
Which most self-proclaimed American Christians couldn’t cite if their life depended on it.
Pass the bacon.
I think we should prioritize Swedish female refugees fleeing from Muslim rapists. America can use more skinny blondes.
Edit: The dumpy tattooed feminists won’t be granted asylum as they will fail the medical exam on account of mental or obesity related illness.
They are the ones driving the push for more immigrants in their home country, and the ones who keep voting for their beloved leftist parties. They’ve made their bed, let them sleep in it.
good idea in theory, but sadly roosh says most swedish women are super feminist and look like tattooed burritos nowadays. we certainly don’t need more of those.
So let’s focus on the young, slender, long-haired non-tattooed ones. Surely, there are a few of those still around? Make the dumpy ones fail the medical exam due to mental illness.
thats why I cant take their “rape epidemic” seriously, since its happening in the most feminist nation in the world…coincidence, I dont think so.
For all I know all those “muslim rapes” are just some somali dude pumpiin and dumpin an easy…I mean “liberated” swedish girl and then she cries rape, hence the lesser sentences. Can see why swedish guys are shy and effeminate, those migrants are learning the hard way.
I shit you not, having consensual sex without a condom is considered rape in sweden….Gotta have game that she doesnt feel bad or itll bite you.
That may or may not be true especially when it comes to violent forcible rapes (which is what is claimed to be happening with Muslims), but remember we’re turning a favored SJW cause (rape culture) against them. Can you imagine the lulz if Trump were to announce he would grant asylum to Swedish rape victims? That would cause feminists’ heads to explode. They would either have to deny the statistics which won’t work as it comes from official sources, or they would have to admit those rapes are not actually rape. Either way they lose.
well its hard to say whose doing all the legit rapes since it lumped up with the bs “violent rapes” like that of Farah Noor Adams in scotland. Its usually wns passing it around. Like I look thorugh it all I got was whites and west asians(arabs) were 25% of offences each while africans got 50%. But dont have the relgious breakdown. THey over rep however nationally the highest I found was 45% of offences lowest was 20 something%. ITs been going on since 06 or 08.
But your proposition, I dont understand wouldnt that work in feminists favour that they get more feminists coming here, give sob sotry and get free shit and pass more feminists laws?Like those offical sources are feminists sources now that its illegal to criticize feminism there. I think when we buy and spread their misinformation more, the more itll be used to pass laws to curb “mysogny”. I believe every data must be checked and questioned or play devils advocate to see any lies in it.
Hell, they INVITED their abusers and thieves and rapists in. How sorry are we supposed to feel for them?
The idea is to troll the feminists by making them choose between “rape culture” and “racist Islamophobe”
It would be great if there would be a detailed race and colour analysis of various crime rates across geographical regions! So much you can do with all the data that is gathered nowadays.. Man, it’s sickening that the racial aspect of crime statistics is suppressed and censored by the SJW to maintain the narrative it stinks and the public consensus would start to change if we could get that stuff out there!
kinda sounds like alil white knighting there like they are actually abused man. Has anyone wondered why this “epidemic” is only sweden and not say france or holland or russia or canada or russia or new zealand where there are more non europeans, hotter slimmer women,lower divorce rates and less pc.
Like it doesnt feel like its a coincidence.
well they took pcness to far. It was one thing to use someones features as a description its another to lump em up in a certain umbrella or terminology. Like people talk about the muslim rapes, well how do you know if hes muslim and why is it the particular religion thats demanded as description and not others. Like you cant say hes described as a fat atheist feminist standing at bla blah. It doesnt make sense since like religion like any other political beliefs cant be seen but can change.
If they say he looks black white asian latin arab that makes more sense. The left and right both mess up and both are cucks. When covers up the other is ignorant.
When it comes to crime they should give details, what city whats his status income family life background etc. The more info the more you can elarn to prevent it. Like kids from single mother homes are more likely to be some ghetto thug then one that doesnt.
Can say that the French with wars and colonising have spread their language into the countries which have now contributed to the migration. The Swedes did not. So there is a longer history there, and linguistic commonality. Holland was also colonising Africa. Remember talking to a French woman there about it, many of them know how to handle this rather aggressive north African kind of culture. I’ve seen them do it they can verbally put them in their place. The French especially southern French are feistier.. Don’t know all the details but while the French were trying to make good some wrongs of war, it was pure SJW behaviour with the Swedes, naive, altruistic, they hadn’t done anything wrong historically just some people who got into power felt too guilty about their privilege and thought they should be more equal with the rest of the world, increase the crime rate, overload the economy etc. Can say that Australia and New Zealand have not imported that particular nasty strain of migrant culture en masse like those other places, the non-europeans there are more from the far east than the middle east or north africa..
holand? Think you mean germany colonized africa,deutachland is german for germany not holand, common mistake.
How do you mean they verbally put them in their place? Like are they cold and methodical about it or do they go hot blooded latina? Of course the french can handle them, they know them. Like when they took out those terrorists in Mali the people were greatful for their competant job since they really know the area and people unlike say the americans.
I suppose I thought Holland was active in Africa because of their activity in South Africa. I think Holland and Belgium colonized in general more than Germany did in the world outside Europe. Germany always wanted “ein Platz in die Sonne” and they had fallen behind in the colonial race and wanted to make up for it..
Re putting in the place, hot blooded latina style… Although it may not be necessarily dangerous in the streets apart from the odd terrorist attack, is not like Europe anymore when you go through many parts of France. Feels like Africa. Was last in Marseille more than a decade ago but I have read bad things about the place in recent times..
Most Swedes are Super Liberals. Most Swede men are Uber Cucks. Most Swede women are Feminist to the core.
I would make a case for welcoming what’s left of West Europe’s practicing, faithful Christians. But that’s about it. We don’t need a million Swedish speaking Anita Sarkisians.
I won’t speculate as to where sarkasian is from but to say her antecedents seem not to be from the west. The kind of devious malevolence and double standards she exhibits can only come from an instinctual hate.
Dude you ever been to Sweden? Murica don’t need anymore feminists. We can send our fat minority feminists and Muslims over to Sweden instead.
No. Let them reap what sow.
No. Let them reap what they sow.
We should be prioritizing European immigrants who would fit in, culturally, who have *actual skills*, and are fleeing the coming Eurabia.
Unhappily, the Leftoids, whose self-image is entirely based on what ‘good people’ they are, would never do that. Instead, expect calls for America to not only accept tens of thousands of more refugees from the Middle East, but the Leftoids will demand that we take in the detritus…to show how much ‘integrity’ we have.
The left demands we take in the entire pile of manure, because there could be a gem in it.
There’s no gem with Muslims. Maybe an IED. Long as they vote Libtard!
Leftards
The left and these SJWs are too funny. They are tolerant and they want you to be tolerant as long as it’s something that they believe in.
Otherwise, how are they different than most middle eastern countries (with their repression of thoughts and opinions not aligning their own)?
The technocrats that run Europe dislike Christianity. they don’t want lots of middle eastern Christians, because they are trying to decrease the numbers of Christians, not import them. For them, burning churches are a secret wish fulfillment not a tragedy.
I used to be in favour of the EU, a uniting of all the countries to make them together stronger and less likely to have wars but with all this subtle treason going on at the upper levels.. Something wrong with the people at the top who run it it’s been infiltrated by the wrong kind. Not sure if it was always like that or if it became that way..
Reality has started to look like a Jack Chick tract.
The mark thing seemed more symbolic but the comparison is a little scary when you think about it…
Wait until the required “chip” implant is mandatory to make purchase transactions arrive. The tech is already there.
The way things are going, it may not be a chip. May be a tattoo. “Hey kids… you like tattoos, right? You’ve got plenty. Hey, here, get one more! For The Leader! Cool, right?“
I love the old Chick tracts. The cartoon format they used reached many. I haven’t seen any Islamic cartoon tracts but the Chick model has been copied by many. It’s great advertizing. One could put red pill/game outreach evangelical tracts in western restrooms. Let’s print some up in Swedish. Their men need it. I once ordered books from Chick. ‘Stairway to Hell’ was full of information points and little tidbits about the metaphysics of spirituality that only an actual exorcist priest could divulge. Interesting read.
On tribulation – INTERESTING FACT:
The number 666, what is it?
Here’s one clue: The planet Mars revolves around the Sun once every 687 earth days. A Martian ‘day’ or the time it takes Mars to rotate once on it’s axis takes approximately 24.7 Earth hours. So how many ‘martian days’ are there in a ‘martian year’? You guessed it. ‘666’. That’s what 666 signifies, that ”IT’S A MARTIAN YEAR”!!! . . hmmm . .
Jack Chick. You mean *the* Jack Chick, who thinks Islam is a Catholic conspiracy gone terribly wrong, and that the purpose of Dungeons & Dragons is to mentally prepare people for introduction into occultism?
My point about the Chick tracts was to point out how great a medium for divulging censored/controversial information they were. The tract format could be used to combat the feminist/sjw media horns in the west. It would blow me away to see tracts in restrooms everywhere in the style of ‘This Was Your Life’, only they’d be titled ‘So you thought you could make a ho into a housewife?’ or ‘Alpha fux, beta bux’ or ‘walk the plank, cuckolding skank’. College campuses would definately devour the info. Sweden especially.
It’s funny if you think about it how a private restroom stall is such a peacefull place. I’ve read many tracts while taking a long crap and sometimes books. But here’s the thing, you think of the restroom as your own uninvaded space while you’re in there but have you ever pondered all the other anonymous asses that sat before you in that same spot? All others who used that same spot in the past likely considered it their own place of solace as well. Ghandi’s hordes could have all squatted there before you but you blot all that out. You’re fooling yourself if you consider the place ‘yours and yours alone’ in the same way men kid themselves when they try to make a ho into a housewife while putting out of their mind all the other miles of dick she’s had or where that pretty face has buried itself in the past. A ho is like a public crapper. At zero point in timespace, all the dicks she’s swam in converge and you don’t want that hanging over you or especially your children. That’s why I preach ‘GO VIRGIN’. That way, when your book of life is complete, only you, your dick, her and yall’s family is in it. No stray dicks. That makes for a good book.
Leaving little tracts discretely in places like that and waiting for them to get picked up. Interesting. Most would end up in garbage cans for sure, but they’re dirt cheap to print so a large attrition rate would be acceptable.
Correction for the author, Kurds are not a part of a non Sunni Arab group, they are in fact Sunnis but they are ethnic Iranic. Persecution of Kurds had to due to their different ethnicity not faith.
Good article Christians should indeed be given the first and perhaps only priority however many Christians are already indeed a part of this wave of migrants. Even many Christians from Eritrea have arrived in Europe.
A thing to be noted is that the pope at the time of Bush jr’s invasion of Iraq (forget who it was I think Benedict) actually forsaw that an invasion would mean the end of Christianity in Iraq and told Bush as much. However Bush was hell bent on invading anyway and had his own evangelical reasons for doing so (proof of which is the French President of the time had to make calls to multiple universities asking them what the hell is Gog and Magog because Bush kept referencing them in their chats). It is clear from this that Bush only main reason for invading Iraq was to eliminate an enemy of a certain state in order to try and usher in a certain era (some would argue oil or influence and while that makes sense it should be noted that the Chinese actually got more oil contracts in the end then we did ourselves and as for influence well the whole of Iraq has fallen to Persian influence).
Bush had some agenda but considering what Gog and Magog references would imply…I don’t think oil has anything to do with it.
“There are far fewer places where Christians are welcomed in the world, so the West should prioritize their resettlement above all other groups.”
I cannot disagree enough. Arm these Christians and train them to fight for a slice of their own space. Support them with drones strikes against those that would harm them. Watch over them and provide logistics and intelligence for their defense.
If there are fewer spaces for Christians left in the world then do not retreat. Begin claiming ground and surge brandishing teeth and claws, but no more refugees, immigrants, illegals, etc etc etc.
The world must begin to see that Christians will no longer “turn the other cheek” in the face of extinction, we will fight.
The Christian religion is based around peace though, while God in the old testament would allow the jewish NATION to fight wars, he always warned the people to not stain their hands with blood. This remains true in the new testament even today where Christians no longer have a nation of their own. Fighting leads to nothing but more death and hatred, as a Christian myself, I see Christianity as a religion of peace and unfortunately, many people see that peace as weakness.
there is a time for peace and a time to fight. Turn the cheek once, get hit. Turn it the other way, get hit. If they want to hit you after that, pummel them to the ground.
It seems you ignore the worlds of our Lord “I came here not to bring peace but to bring a sword and
Christian tradition states clearly that sometimes war is just and must be waged. Otherwise we would be Muslim and this conversation wouldn´t take place.
But are you not asking other Christians to do the fighting for you? I would say deny muslims entry and send them to muslim countries for aid (Sauid Arabia, Indonesia, etc…). Let the christians in.
Don’t help out anymore child raping Muslim savages.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/09/22/army-rejects-appeal-green-beret-who-stood-afghan-rape-victim
Doesn’t it seem that the USA is always allied with the bad guys?
All Muslims are bad guys. The ones allied with the USA are just waiting for us to leave so they can go back to child raping, goat fucking, and terrorism.
Well, it depends…good and bad are all based on your moral compass, so from the muslim perspectivem USA is allied with the good guys. Also, as an American I can say majority of us aren’t allied with anyone. We are simply trying to maintain our ever shrinking freedoms while the SJWs and politicians keep pushing this world peace campaign while slowly taking away our freedoms.
I don’t think there is a universal “Muslim perspective”. My point is that the American government has allied itself with tribal leaders in Afghanistan (the minority ruling elite) who regularly rape boys and women, against the will of the overall Afghan people (essentially putting strongmen elites in power as it has always done when it overthrows governments (see Iran, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Phillipines, etc.) and in Syria supporting ISIS rebels and giving them arms and equipment, against the will of the greater populations of the area.
In other words, we picked out some of the most evil and corrupt groups, and put them in power against the masses (which is the opposite of democracy) and have labeled it fighting for democracy.
There are no “good” 3rd world strongmen or tribal groups, retard. You sound like a 13 year old who just discovered Chomsky.
Most Americans would prefer to have stayed completely out of 20th century international politics but realities of the Cold War forced the issue.
There was a great documentary series on Showtime called “The Untold History of the United States”. It was by Oliver Stone and covered a lot of the topics you just listed. I would highly recommend you check it out.
If the poster was 13 years old, would that make anything said any less true? If all you have is ad hominem, save it for someone who cares. Those games don’t work here. This is a place for real discussion amongst men bettering themselves, not petty bickering and ad hominem attacks.
Also, why is it retarded to agree that 3rd world strongmen are bad?
Oh yeah, that was an incredible series, and I was shocked at all the stuff that had been scrubbed from my public school history books. Highly recommended.
why don’t we destroy religion all together? If the issue is actually Muslims and Islamist and not the fact they came from a 3rd world country or the their believes allow their state to run as one. Then accepting any people of religious doctrine shouldn’t be the answer. Any religious dogma usually separates people even from their own group.
What we need is a complete, secular world government; eradicating all religious text or mention of deities and forbid anyone to speak of such matters.
If the problem is about morality; acknowledge that we’re very social animals. Empathy flows through our hearts, but it’s difficult when groups have opposing ideologies.
“What we need is a complete, secular world government; eradicating all religious text or mention of deities and forbid anyone to speak of such matters.”
Thank you for providing the official NWO response to this insightful article. You may now return to the shadows from whence you came, Sauron.
The problem we have is that mankind has no common enemy that would wipe us out. If an asteroid is discovered hurling towards Earth that would eliminate all life here as we know it, then all people from all religions would unite and eliminate this threat.
2 soldiers in the same platoon disagree and fight one another over who’s football team is best. When they’re surrounded by the enemy that would kill them both, that little quarrel would seem irrelevant.
Sounds kind of like something the US president could come up with…gotta love the “freedom of religion” part of our freedoms being taken away so that people can have freedom FROM religion.
Atheists have killed the most people after muslims.Atheist dictators like Stalin,Hitler,Pol pot,Castro brothers and a host of other despots butchered millions of people simply for not agreeing with their bullshit policies.not to mention leftists,sjws and feminists are atheists.so before barking at religion please look at your own atheist faith.because atheists are no worse then muslims.
But that would mean anyone with an opposing ideology in your utopia would be deemed criminal. If anything mankind and our technology is destroying Earth and nature all around us everyday. So by your logic we should shut down every company building new tech to preserve the world.
It seems very Nazi-like for you say these things, im guessing we’ll round up the religious people and kill them in large stadiums while people watch like in North Korea huh?
A secular world government where Christians are persecuted for their faith…sounds exactly like the prophecies from the book of Revelations. All the atheists who propose the idea od a one world government don’t even see that the bible says this will happen…
“why don’t we destroy religion all together?”
Sure. Lets start with the secular religions first. Get back to us on the progress.
“What we need is a complete, secular world government; eradicating all
religious text or mention of deities and forbid anyone to speak of such
matters.”
Thanks for your incite, Kim Jong Un. Secularism is a cancer. It is no coincidence that women have taken power over men in secularism. Are you a f*cking retard?
Well the only place for Middle East Christian refugees are Eastern Europe,South America,Australia and maybe Jordan or Lebanon since these 2 countries seem tolerant of Christians.Its good to know that leftist countries like Germany,Austria,Belgium,Sweden and a few others have taken in some Christian refugees but its sad to know that the majority have been left to rot and die off poverty and starvation and the world and media dont care.Our world just keeps getting more fucked up these days thanks to these leftists,Sjws,feminists,politicians and muslims.
Putin just threw down the gauntlet , challenging the USA to either join him in fighting ISIS, or admit that they invented and are allied with ISIS. Touche!
This is a huge move; if Putin is seen as the liberator of Europe, stopping the hordes of refugees in every western European country and restoring stability in a dangerous area, and if he can do it faster than the 15+ years and counting (ha!) that the US is spending in Iraq and Afghanistan, the world opinion of Russia will be drastically changed for the better, and the USA, already seen as the #1 threat to world peace will suffer an even further decline in world opinion, which could lead to accellerating the end of the holy Petrodollar (Hint: You don’t wanna be living here when that happens).
World peace is impossible unless we have an orwellian society that lives life based on indifference. So America isn’t a threat to anything. Everyone keeps speaking about world peace when they don’t understand that peace has a price tag that reads “freedom”. If you’re not willing to give up freedoms like freedom of speech, or right to bare arms, you’ll never get your peace.
Yeah, it’s not like the Ruskies ever went into Afghanistan, and got booted out after a ruinous 10-year war which spelt the end of the Soviet Union… oh wait. So Putin is looking to embarrass Mother Russia all over again, eh?
It could certainly end badly, and I’m not in favor of armed interventions. However, the difference here is that Putin is attempting to restore the current government of Syria and stabilize the region, not invade and conquer which is far more difficult. Invading Afghanistan (by the Soviets and later the Americans) proved to be a bloody mistake, and made things horribly worse for both sides. This at least has the potential for improvement.
If they can combine it with some sort of diplomacy (ie give the Syrian people a little change that they want, pacifying the Arab Spring types, perhaps replacing Ashad but still retaining the existing government) so that the people join in solidarity and oppose ISIS, it has a good chance of success. If he just comes in and bombs brown people, it probably won’t do much to change the situation. The difference I see is that Putin seems like an intelligent person to me. We’ll see if he has any strategy or more of the W/Obama strategery.
But the Yanks never came in to “invade and conquer” Iraq or Afghan.. they came in to remove repressive regimes and replace them with democratica ones, for the benefit of the people. Or so the story goes. Of course, they had to bomb the shit out of the place first… I’m sorry, but how is Putin’s plan any different?
The Yanks came to the Mideast in a fit of bloodrage. They wanted revenge by murdering someone who looked like the people they were mad at. At best. At worst they had a sick plan of dominating and controlling the region. For the sake of the rest of these countries, at least the plan failed so far.
If the conflict is in Syria how does one not bomb brown people…?
Assuming one should bomb anyone of course…
To clarify, there is hope that instead of just playing video game drone wars and exploding wedding parties and hospitals, Russia will come up with a smarter strategy to return stability to the country. Modern militaries love to bomb things because (a) it feeds the military industrial complex, using up expensive weaponry and munitions (b) it gets [some] results with little human risk to the invading nation (although the cost/benefit is often questionable) as compared to a longer strategy of committing troops to an offensive, and (c) it creates collateral damage, which modern nations claim to want to minimize, but actually love.
Russia has been leading with air strikes. We shall see if they have any other tools under their belt. Air striking will not change anything. Unfortunately the enemy now has thousands of Humvees and hundreds of tanks, courtesy the us military letting them “fall into the wrong hands”– oops! So it won’t be easy.
Honestly I don’t know what the “not bombing brown people” solution would look like. But the past 40 years of warfare has shown (Afghanistan, Vietnam, Sudan, Afghanistan again, etc.) that massive bombing is rather ineffective. If I was reluctantly placed in charge of fixing things over there, I would try to rally the Arab League together to fix things and come up with their own solution, instead of one imposed on them by colonial powers that will only fall apart in another decade. It’s not the west’s problem to fix. However, if the west is willing to waste a trillion dollars in the Mideast blowing stuff up, I would incentivize with a few billion to build and create something once peace is restored, if the parties would cooperate and clean up the mess.
Good points.
I don’t think the western mind set understands that for someone to rule in the average Middle Eastern area one has to be a bit of a dictator and a really harsh one the worse the people are. This is the only way any semblance of peace is attained for any period of time. Israel is an example of this truth. They have done some very nasty things, worthy of the dictator label from the perspective of the Palestinian’s, but they have managed to maintain a relatively civil and peaceful state for their own people’s.
There is no chance trying to bring ‘democracy’ will work in the middle of the desert mohamed claimed for himself that’s saturated with the most important commodity on the planet.
Those circumstances will always make people act crazy.
What is so virtuous about democracy? Do you run any other aspect of your life on democratic principles? Every day I see more and more failures and problems that are directly attributed to democracy. Isn’t feminism itself a manifestation of democracy? And look at the sick political cycle we are about to go into. The next 2 years will be full of so much distraction so that eventually people ostensibly have the choice (if you believe the voting itself is not fraudulent) of selecting between corporate commissar A or corporate commissar B. Utterly pointless and a colossal waste of time and resources at best and nefarious at worst.
Currently I am watching the series Narcos about Pablo Escobar and so many of the governmental problems in Colombia at that time can be traced to the fact that its government is an elected body, which is easily opened to corruption and blackmail.
While obviously they lack many of the benefits and good points of western society, I’d argue that the only few monarchies remaining today (Vatican, UAE, Saudis, etc.) do a better job of *running their government* than the western democracies do.
To their credit, Russia Today has done a significant number of shows highlighting the plight of middle eastern christians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7z1zANE5A
I’ll say it again, I’ll say it a thousand times: Islam is a sham religion started by a child-raping, slave-owning murderer. Christianity was started by a Jewish carpenter who preached peace (generally speaking) among his fellow man and who was a master at The Game.
In 1816, a year after Waterloo, the Baron Exmouth (Edward Pellew) led the Siege of Algiers to liberate about 1500 Christian slaves from MUSLIM slave-owners. Exmouth pounded Algiers with naval gunfire until the Dey finally gave up.
There was a time when America and the Empire fired cannon to save Christians. Now when Christians are slaughtered, the left just says “check your privilege.”
Now when Christians are slaughtered they are actually arming and training the slaughterers.
Christ warned His disciples that persecution would be commonplace when He came back.
As a Christian myself, while I by no means agree with homosexuality, I honestly have no desire to behead gays or to toss them off of tall buildings.
Abrahamistic religions are all sandnigger religions. Keep that shit in the Middle-East, because it only causes violence and misery.
How can Muslim be Christians?
Are you stupid?
Are you?
What coffeechat is implying is that brown peeps are automatically muslim and cannot be christians.
I didn’t get that from him. He never once mentioned race. The word “muslim” isn’t a race.
No are you?
Muslims aren’t Christians, however some Muslim have become Christian which is why many of them end up dead because leaving Islam is like leaving a gang, you’ll be beaten and possibly killed.
Yep, they can all go to America….as you’re still god fearing folk…us Europeans don’t give a toss about religion these days.
Talk for yourself . Generalization is bad in any way
Fuck off
eat a dick
Spotted Dick? Lovely. Peasant.
dipped in pig fat and sprinkled with retard dandruff. just as your mom prefers it. catamite.
Sounds like a E European delicacy…sh*thead.
anything to accommodate assholes like yourself. you wanna be annoying? get owned and learn a lesson, prole.
Go and boil your bottom you son of a silly person.
“boil your bottom” whatever dafuqetyfuck you re on about? what is this? preschool insults? son of silly a person? phahaha now you`re just entertaining. ok i`ll bite. “You fight like a dairy farmer.
How appropriate. You fight like a cow”
Monty Python – cretin.
oh i just thought you are doing that guybrush threepwood insult technique. ok. just for the record, eat a dick. cheers.
Putin is not going to save the white race or Christianity. He regularly jails nationalists and forges alliances with Rabbis to fight anti-Semitism. Russia is a wasteland of low birthrates, white-Asian mixes, and alcoholism.
Yeah but they have enough sense to deal with the homosexuals the right way, which is more than i can say for US.
I don’t think anyone would argue the US is doing a good job of combating degeneracy, so it’s a null point.
Not necessarily, since this guy seemed to only be in favor of listing Putin’s negatives.
Right. Who exactly is saying the U.S. is combating degeneracy well?
Defending Putin because of the homosexual issue would be like you saying: “This chick gave me Hepatitis, but at least it’s not AIDS! “
Look, i’m not saying Putin is an angel but if we are going to get into a pissing match about which leader is worse…are you going to be the one defending obama?
I don’t know about you but I’ll take Putin over obama EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Quit acting like a faggot. You made the original comparison to the U.S. Both of them are shit.
I’m not acting like a “faggot” you’re acting like a little bitch because no one on here is hating on Putin because he doesn’t support (your) aryan nation horseshit.
Mestizo faggot.
Anorchous douchebag.
>Uses term “douchebag”
Beta as fuck
Has to resort to cursing to express a point.
whiny little bitch
All done flexing your virtual balls? Can we end this puerile exchange now?
The irony here is hilarious.
Yes, go back to your safe space with Dan Savage.
Not at all, given that you started it first 😉
Oh and i’ll pass. Got any other kindergarten pejoratives to share?
How did I start it exactly? You are the one praising Putin; I merely pointed out that he is a terrible example of a conservative leader.
You called me a faggot. You “took it there’ with that curse.
Now we can just walk away in a civilized fashion unless you want to continue this pointless exchange.
What are you, twelve? Flipping out about being called a faggot? I’ll end this discussion because you are very thin-skinned.
You aren’t “ending” anything buddy.
Have a drink…you deserve it!
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Fag
Puto.
The Russian state is paying it’s women to have children and yet the population decreases and they are flooded with people from the former soviet republics. Russia is in bad shape, so I don’t understand why some posters think they are going to save anybody. They will have enough problems keeping the Chinese out of Siberia, let alone trying to annex eastern Ukraine.
Obama administration is planning on deporting some Christian refugees from Syria while at the same time saying that America will take in like 70000 refugees. WTF.
Who wants to guess what percentage of the refugees that are coming are Muslim.
Why all this religion from supposed reality-based thinkers?
Being welcoming of outsiders is how rabbits think – feminists, SJWs, manginas etc. Our first duty is to our own kind. Forget immigration, we need to throw most of the ones we have out before things can get better.
Have you ever met anyone who didn’t self-identify as a reality-based thinker?
I didn’t even read this bullshit post. No, no, no. I’m from Detroit, which is the biggest concentration of these immigrants (Christian Arabs) outside of the Middle East. These people are the shittiest, slimy scum I’ve ever met. Every bad immigrant stereotype known to man is how these people are. They don’t pay taxes when they arrive, due to our laws here, which allow you to live tax free for sometime, and your business gets some tax breaks as well. What they do is they keep transferring possessions into the names of relatives that recently move here, so the taxes are never actually being paid ever. They own mostly liquor stores, but instead of having vendors and suppliers, they use food stamps (which our government supplies to them because they commit excessive fraud) to fill it up with snacks and soft drinks to sell. They then drive off in a new Benz, Range Rover, or Lexus model vehicle after using said food stamps. Then they are very traditional and frown upon race mixing or doing any business of any kind with anyone outside of their race which is called Chaldean. I know a Chaldean man who was selling his 2013 Honda Civic after he paid it off (commiting various fraud and scams.) he was selling it for blue book price. But that was the “non Chaldean” price, to which he admitted that he would sell it to a Chaldean for substantially less “because they were the same race”. These people are invading us. They’re racist, yet white men get blamed for racism exclusively. For the record I am black and you can see the teenagers of this race acting as ghetto youth, although they are usually privelaged fags. Fuck that shit.
alcohol = poison
junk food = poison
So they’re loyal to their race and are good with money to boot. What’s not to like?
That they fuck us in the process?
The outrage! Gaming the system to minimize your taxes is the rightful prerogative of rich white men!
Try only letting the women in. Then i bet youll see them convert.
The difference between Islam and Christianity is Islam doesn’t have a revised edition of the Koran ( see New Testament) telling its followers not to do fucked up shit like raping little kids.
What a relief! It’s not as though the Church has had problems with pedos and . . . oh wait . . .
Religious intolerance serves a dual purpose. One for purifying, cleansing and purging outsiders from a homeland and SECONDLY it makes an ‘invisible fence’ so to speak, to keep groups herded and controlled in their respective areas. Physical borders that are policed by the neighboring states can be breached fences can be scaled and walls tunneled under, but when the neighboring populace stones the ‘outsiders’ or drives them away through intolerance, then they’re actually acting as de facto deputy agent border control for the state. It cuts both ways. The borders both physical and invisible combine to eventually entrap and corrall both sides.
Uh, no, for the most part, we shouldn’t. There are exceptions, but most Christians in the Middle East tend to be Arab and speak Arabic. Politically and culturally, they’re often Arab first and Christian second. Arab Christians hate the Jews as much as the Muslims do in more cases than not. And as we’ve seen with the “refugees” massing on Europe, you can’t take the Raider out of Arab Raider.
What does the Christian Arabs hating the Jews have to do with anything? They hate the Jews because of how the Jews treat them.
I like how love of the Jew has become a litmus test for entering the USA now. Wow. Are people trying to confirm Stormfront claims or what?
Perhaps it’s because they have the same reasons to hate Israel as Arab Muslims have?
SJWs want to do some real social justice? Help the Middle East Christians out. Same goes for the holier than thou Christian crowd, unless you want to be called out as modern Pharisees.
I think we should be ensuring these Christians can stay in the Middle East, and that means supporting the Russians in propping up the Alawite regime in Syria. Syrian Christians overwhelmingly support Bashar Al Assad. It is shameful that only Orthodox Russia has come to his defense.
How about we prioritize NO immigrants coming from these parts of the world?
A religion doesn’t make people violent. People take up a religion to satisfy their natural bloodlust. Hence why there are more black converts to Islam in the United States, it allows them to express their natural savagery and justify it.
I didn’t realize there were so many blue pill cuckservatives and moralfags who read RoK… You can lead a horse to water I suppose
Religion is pure bullshit no matter what flavor you want to embrace.
I think this is one confusing part of the manosphere. This stupid embracing of such a delusional belief systems. All this talk about seeing whats infront of you and seeing the reality of situations. Then you go defending one delusional system over another. Very disappointing.
So you wont acknowledge that all humans have their spiritual side? (i expect your answer would be- no, only stupid humans)
define “spiritual side”.
What the hell does that even mean?
Give me a definition of that. Something that means something….Something that makes sense and then I will answer you.
So many religions and so many people following it and you say it is pure bullshit. .Dostoyevsky-“If God does not exist, everything is permitted”. We have reached the point when depression and destructivity of humans is unbelievable. And when someone mentions God and peace that can be achieved thru It, we get comment like yours. But i sense you are going to put more negativity into the subject so I am not sure this conversation will be useful. You keep believing in whatever you want and leave mine alone.
it baffles me that the most obvious part of this is ignored like a white elephant in a room. If it wasn’t for the destructive mentality that is bread from religion we wouldn’t even need to have this conversation.
you did not read Dostoyevsky.
i will rephrase it– you need fear. fear of retribution of higher power if you do stupid shit and hurt people. humans believe they achieved high level of consciousness. we believe we are smart and great. from that belief we breed self centered bastards that are ready to destroy everything because they are the most important people ever. Check the history. Tyrants ? no god . people who fear God do not create wars. Death is in his hands , not any mans. Peace comes from understanding that it is more important to have clean soul than to have wealth and fuck zillion girls.
Yeah. Too bad Neo Caesar had to die; he would’ve fix this mess.
Lots of meandering, but the article didn’t really ever get to the point. So, why should Christian refugees get priority?
If the (alleged) fact that Christian communities in the Middle East is a Bad Thing, then it would seem that giving them a place to flee to would just accelerate the disappearance of those communities.
Put ’em in Israel, not Europe. We all (should) know who is behind this.
In the 1970’s the then Australian Prime Minister ignored the advice of his Ministers and allowed muslim Lebanese into Australia instead of favouring the Christian minority, yep you guessed it here it is decades later Gun crime is rampant amongst the Lebanese community in Western Sydney and a lessor extent in Melbourne. It is mainly Lebanese muslims imprisoned in Australia for terrorism offences, it also majority Lebanese muslims who left Australia to fight with ISIS in the middle east – again for the life of me I cannot understand why all these left leaning fools keep ignoring common sense advice and allow these people into Western Countries.
It’s easy to understand: white leftist fools have a guilt complex about their own culture and civilization. Thus, they want to “fix” the sins of their fathers and help these “oppressed” Muslims get back on their feet. All the Left is doing is digging its own grave, instead.
The majority of the refugees are Arabs and Africans. These people are a pain in the ass no matter what religion they have.
Indeed. Honour killing and FGM are traditions that come from parts of the Middle East and Africa and as such both Christian and Muslims from that region practice it.
I think most people don’t know that present-day Christianity is different than the original form. The original religion was almost the same as Judaism and Islam, with retarted things like stoning or mutilating people in the name of God.
Somewhere in time people realized this shit is wrong, so they altered the Bible and removed some of the violent parts. Later in time different versions of Christianity arose with different visions. It doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s largely a fake religion.
Uh, no. The only people stoned in the New Testament were the early Christians.
Its a shame that Obama continues to turn a blind eye to the Middle Eastern Christians. But now its accepted that he will not help them. He cares more about Muslims than Christians. He wants to bring in 10,000 Muslims and maybe 100 Christians – what a shame!