320 thoughts on “How To Attract Beautiful Girls By Using This Fundamental Truth About Sexual Market Value”

1. this is sad…
   it only takes with sex, ignoring all types of romance or love.
   this way of thinking demolish the family as homosexuals o feminist does.
   a true man must take romance and love as one of the most important aspects of a family, not only sex or hotness.
   if the key for patriarchy to recover the essence of family, then you can’t guide or brothers only in the way of sex. Only with love a true family can withsatnd itself.
   With this post you are only doing wrong for patriarchy.

   1. I was almost going to let this one go as your opinion which, is different than mine, but I can respect that other people feel the way you do….until you dropped what I see as the worst form of argument..
      “a true man….” I am so tired of hearing any sentence that starts that way so I am calling bullshit.
      So you are saying that a true man has only one choice in how he lives his life it just so happens that that choice is exactly the way you see things.
      In what kind of world is that bull acceptable.
      There are many different paths and many different men and each man must decide his own way. We are born into a world with certain facts that we need to deal with. Being unable to accept this is the core of feminism.
      Of the facts we are given there are some we can change and some we can’t and good men can debate which fall into which category while maintaining mutual respect.
      I think that your idea of romance and love is silly and quint. I don’t want to create a family unit, I don’t want to recover the essence of family. Fuck that noise. If that is your choice then I accept and commend you on your choice and wish you well in both paying the price and reaping the rewards. What you can’t do is then turn around and say that “real masculinity” is only possible through your way of life.
      I like being alone, dependent on myself with no responsibilities outside of me. I woke up this morning to quiet, went to the gym, went to a job where I am respected and well compensated, will go to a gym on the way home and then maybe have a bite out or just return to my sanctuary.
      Maybe along the way I will meet a girl half my age who is impressed by high smv as a fit and successful man and I will fuck her while never once giving her one iota of emotion. She will fucking love it and beg for more when I tire of her.
      Your way of life is contradictory to mine and that is ok. There are 100 others ways to live as well. Each with rewards and each with costs. The idea that the way you like things is the only way to masculinity is simply incorrect

      1. ^Agree with above^ Don’t want to be married, don’t like kids.

         1. And that will come with ups and downs…other men will feel otherwise. I just hate all that “real men blah blah blah”

         2. Agreed. If it (family) will make you happy and fulfilled, do it. If it won’t, don’t.

         3. Good.
            Remember, marriage is a “reproductive unit”. If there are not kids or plans for kids, there should be no marriage. Period.
            I’ve had my share of washed up middle-aged women wanting marriage. They already had kids. Their pussy is dry and used. Marriage? YOU already had kids. They already been married. Just fuck and enjoy it.

      2. Indeed.
         All you need to know about “romance and love” is this:
         – The big fat ugly woman is going to be the most loyal to the worst men. She will be like the messed up ugly car you don’t have to lock up. But she will be sought after by guys with low or no self esteem…. and therefore….
         – ANY man can bring out the worst in any woman by treating her too nice, even the big fat ugly woman will turn into a self-entitled mega cunt and act like she’s a fitness queen natural 8 or above, even if the man is not some fat neckbeard. I have seen it.
         – The pretty woman is like a doberman dog. Show weakness and she will fuck somebody else. Want the pretty girl? Stay on your game. Want to be gameless and relaxed like a boy with his momma? Then you need a big fat ugly woman who you treat like your mother (read: no sex and you get to play video games all of the time).
         Where’s the love and romance in all of this?
         Exactly.
         But I find that keeping game on is not some hyper-stressful state of being. I see the lamentations all of the time, guys thinking that maintaining frame and game is like forever being in some psych-out contest until they die from stress. That’s bullshit. If a man has a good foundation of being, game comes naturally. It’s almost effortless, and you can have pretty women in your life, not be dominated (and thus bring out their dark sides) by them, and not be vexxed either, and derive benefit from their company at zero “cost”. Cost being a relative matter.

         1. Some of the sociobiology here is really off the hook. But i guess what you are saying is that in a “life partner” (as opposed to a fuck buddy) the 8 or above knockout is too high maintenance. Best to settle for a 4 or 5. This way she’s not a total hambeast but you don’t have to worry about “game” too much.

         2. I don’t know about a 4, but yeah, being married to an 8+ would be a nightmare.

         3. FRAME is everything, It is Games big daddy. With baseline IQ of 130+ and killer frame you have everything you need to literally conquer the world.

      3. My general opinion is that “a (real) man makes his own rules”. Can’t logically argue against that, especially since everyone is doing it.

      4. “a true man….” : i’m fed up too with people who begin lecturing others with this. Morevover, what comes after is always some beta or feminidiocy bullshit, nothing relative to red pill basics.

   2. Stop trying to appeal to others to change in order to create your ideal world. Grab hold of your balls and do something yourself if you care so much.

      1. ^^^^^^^^^ this right here

2. After a stream of great, insightful articles, it’s always Troy Francis who breaks the flow with shite like this.
   “But wherever you are in the world, the most attractive trait in a man as far as women are concerned is social dominance. If you can communicate social and interpersonal dominance through your actions and behaviours then you will naturally have a higher SMV (and thus be more likely to get laid) than a man who can’t.”
   I’ve met plenty of men who obviously heed this kind of advice, and they always make absolute cunts of themselves. The moment you even fucking THINK about “demonthtrating higher value” you’ve fucking lost!

   1. The ones who make fools out of themselves for acting higher than they really are, are obviously not being themselves.
      The article is true, but I admit that Troy might have considered adding that no matter how you manipulate your SMV, you should always remain true to your identity.
      Some people simply aren’t made for being badasses. And when they try, they look like total fools.
      Not being a natural badass is no big deal. They just got to find other ways to show higher SMV.

      1. ha basically said the same thing

      2. When I see a guy who isn’t made for being a bad ass being totally comfortable in himself and in his surroundings being exactly who he is then I always think he is a badass in his own way and, I bet you, women do too. The first step to giving women your soul is trying to give them what they want instead of taking what you want….that is a road that doesn’t lead anywhere. If you are on your way out and thinking of things you can do to change your being, your personality, who you are so that women will like you…you already lost

         1. I noticed this too.
            I used to be surprised when a quiet guy could gain the attention of various girls, even though the guy was basically doing…. nothing.
            He was just there.
            So I learnt that there is more to SMV than just the social / talking aspect.

         2. Right. There is actual value. A value of a man often is shown through his being comfortable with and in himself.

         3. Also, remember: women are looking for direction from a man. If a man is confident being himself, regardless of who he is, he is giving non-verbal cues to the woman that he is worth being with.

         4. Makes sense.
            It’s funny that in the end of the day everything comes down to perhaps the most cliché line in recent history: Be yourself.
            That’s what it’s really all about.
            Lots of people will of course mistake this and take it as an excuse for not doing anything to improve their lives and thus be happier.

         5. I think there is a bit of figuring to do on what type of girl you want to date. People have a necessary bias built-in and deviate towards others of shared mind and experience.
            Loud, braggadocios and obnoxious women gravitate to similar men. More considered, introspective and quiet women look for similar men. Some women will be hooked by the mystery of a man.
            Not saying this is greater than initial aesthetic attraction, (or true in all cases) but it is a factor.
            While I know nothing of “game,” women do sense confidence/conviction and when it’s faked they tend to skedaddle. For me, directness sprinkled with a bit of wit and charm is all it takes.

         6. It is about being yourself, but not only that. I would say it boils down to two things. Being yourself and making yourself as good as you can be.
            A lot of lazy people take being yourself to mean you don’t need to work on yourself. You should constantly be growing and leaning and taking care of your appearance and your health while being yourself.

         7. Mhm..
            To be yourself and move forward.
            ^ And that requires confidence.
            But when you are yourself, and achieve things in life, you gain even more confidence.
            It becomes a nice cycle, doesn’t it?

         8. indeed it does

         9. Related anecdote: back in my early 20s I went clubbing a lot. I was generally a bit socially awkward during that time, but loved the music and started going out on my own just to dance – screw trying to meet women. Without fail, every single time I did this the chicks flocked to me. Hot ones, far hotter than any I’d previously dated blue-pill style.
            The first time I went out clubbing on my own a group of 4 chicks swarmed me, said they liked how I danced and we partied all night. Once I had a chick show up to a club with her boyfriend that immediately gravitated to me dancing my ass off alone and was all over me the rest of the night, making out with me the moment her bf wandered off to the bar and grabbing my dick. I didn’t say a single word to half of these chicks but at a minimum made out with several every night I went out.
            Self confidence and not giving a shit are powerful non-verbal signals.

         10. Personally, I think there is more variability in male personalities and women by and large, “take the shape of the container they’re in”. They are more open to influence, particularly if it’s the right man.

         11. “Be the best version of yourself”

         12. I think you are right that that is also part of it. Why we say a strong masculine influence effects a woman.
             I believe anyone who has developed the will and the convictions (which are non-negotiable/uncompromisable) will have a natural confidence and a woman will begin to adapt to him as a strong anchor and safe harbor with which to live comfortably and raise a healthy family.

         13. That’s the plan in theory!

         14. “being the best of yourself” is more accurate i think and it let no way of misinterpretation of any sort (= doing nothing)

         15. indeed. like the law of power “reinvent youself”. that’s the spirit !

         16. I’m just going to assume you wouldn’t include a general care regarding the other person’s well-being in any of your thoughts here?

         17. I would expect another person to care about themselves enough that they wouldn’t need it.

         18. Disco Stu? 😉

   2. socially dominant men are, in my experience, rarely cunty. It is insecure men faking social dominance that act that way. You should be able to tell the difference – women certainly can.
      Actually social dominance brings the kind of calmness that great leaders have and that makes they charismatic and charming.

      1. Bingo.
         This is why Sigma males exist. A natural alpha who comes into the impression (real or perceived, I think the culture makes it real now) that in order to be a “real man” you have to be a douchebag, and they take their ball(s) and go home. They have alpha qualities, but choose not to use them except in times when it becomes necessary to make a fake alpha comprising a walking stereotype of “dick boy” want to jump off a bridge.

         1. I think we should talk more about sigma than alpha in ROK. because I think most of us here are/will evolve as sigmas, not alphas.

   3. This is often because when they try to dominate the situation, they do it with anger rather than intensity.
      Anger is begging other people to pity you. These people often devolve into complaining and appeals for others to give a shit. The two types of people this is directed at, your enemies (who do not care) and women (who do not care) will correctly interpret this as weakness, poor frame control and lack of mastery over the situation. Your friends will interpret it as you being annoying.
      Intensity is calmly instilling a sense of fear in other people and using it to your advantage. These people tell others what to believe and are rarely argued with. Not only is this likely to work on many people, it gives the sense that you are amused at competition and are not to be trifled with.

3. Darn good and truthful article.
   I side with Chateau Heartiste’s “sperm is cheap” editorial which I can’t find at the moment. It boils down to biology. For as long as there have been humans, sperm is cheap and expendable and eggs were precious. This is the biological foundation of SMV. Human brains are still wired around it. A woman with a good shape and long thick hair activates our reproductive wiring: she will have healthier children than some short-haired barrel shaped thing. There was a show on cable some years ago that was always on at the same time I was in a break room and it was about pregnancies and such, and having to be dramatic they were all about complicated pregnancies.
   EVERY damned one of them were fat and ugly. Short scragly hair because they were not healthy enough to grow it. Fat round bodies, no female shape. And each episode I crossed paths with all had the same shit: complicated (and dramatic since it was a show) pregnancy full of all kinds of help from the medical complex.
   Help that, for most of the timeline of the human race, did not exist.
   Now, back in the day, in order for the human race to survive (we survived the Ice Age alongside other biological winners like the wolf and the grizzly bear) mating up with unhealthy women was death. Even when we became more civilized it still mattered a lot. That old cliche “She will bear many sons!” is actually true. You had to work the land to survive, or if you were higher up in society, you needed a “dynasty”. (This is why royalty used Eunuchs as servants, so they can trust them).
   Imagine if you had a farm say 5000 years ago and mated with a sickly woman who could not survive giving birth. Being a single parent meant you might even die. Even a single dad was going to be in trouble. You needed a woman who could survive bearing children.
   Up through the 1970s, there were always “dances” and such. You know where that comes from? Very old tradition. Sure we saw it as chances to get laid and stuff like that. But the whole tradition of putting young people in these “spring dances/pageants/etc.” was based on the mechanics and traditions of SMV. Sure the ((spergers)) in Hollywood (who never got asked to the dance) have lampooned this tradition now for generations, say otherwise. But the root of it was all about SMV: if a woman could dance and looked good, she was a good potential mate. Belly dancing for example was a demonstration of good core foundation. Do you want the woman who can move like a snake or do you want the slouching frumpasaurus? Which one is likely to die and/or give you an half-retarded sperger who can’t work the farm or stand at your side in battle?
   Once you understand the mechanics of SMV, you understand EVERYTHING.

   1. Interestingly, in fish, the males usually do the parenting(if parenting is done), even though sperm is cheaper, females have the ability to escape first(the men have to wait to fertilize the eggs). In mammals men have the ability to escape first.

      1. *used to have the ability to escape… until DNA testing and the long arm of the family court system.

   2. They were probably sickly and bloated *because of* their complicated pregnancies. Toxemia and/or eclampsia can turn an 8 into a 3.

      1. These dumb shows always showed their wedding pictures. They were bloated BEFORE the pregnancy.
         Anecdotal evidence warning.
         I have three sisters. 2 were “fitness queens”. One a fatty.
         The fitness queens had no issues with bearing children, 6 total between the two, no health issues, no C-sections. They lost the baby weight and are still fitness queens. The kids? One has 4 strapping young lads and the other has a very intelligent boy who is in engineering school and the other talented daughter. I could not ask for finer nephews. They will will all be red-pilled.
         The fat one got some kind of “diabetus during pregnancy” thing and had to lay in bed for 8 months to prevent a miscarriage. She was fat before, fatter afterwards, and still fat now. Though I hear she’s gone paleo and lost 50 lbs but has around 50 more to go.
         The kids? One is fat and weird, has a misshapen face. The other is a “runt”, like under 5′ tall and not very healthy looking either.
         That’s all I need to rest my case.

         1. You are a funny mother fucker. I can’t help but laugh at the thought of you having to entertain an overweight nephew with a misshapen face.

         2. Some people are put here to be comic relief.
            And those who are, and realize that, become the best comics.

         3. You’re kind of sick to use your nephew as comic relief. Very, very sick.

   3. This article is damning evidence that restricting female sexuality and having them marry young for the sake of their own happiness was the crowning wisdom of our ancestors.
      This list reads like the ranting of a drug addict. One who is addicted to ‘things’ through a materialistic view of the world. And like an addict, there is no low they will not stoop to to get their fix. Proper masculine authority can avert this, introduced at a young age and carried out through the rest of their lives.

      1. I’m looking in the article and my post for a “list”. What list are you referring to?
         I do rant though.

         1. Wrong article haha. It’s for the one about the girl who died of cancer. I may be trying to do too many things at once today.

         2. What? Are you claiming that women who fucked with dogs have no evolutionary advantage?
            Just wait until a wolfpocalypse arrives. you are going to wish that more women knew how to properly present themselves to a pack of horny wolves.

         3. You just made my day, haha.

         4. You had it right though. She sounded sick in the head. Maybe she had a brain tumor.
            It sounded like she was rationalizing. “Hey I’m not the only one who fucks dogs. Most women do!”

         5. You could be right. I can’t see anyone but a sexless fatty stooping so low.

         6. Here you again. You never give up, do you?
            I wonder how long it will take you to stop being whoring on comment section. You are craving for attention bro. Are you aware of that? Stop visiting ROK and seek for help about your attention whoring behaviour.

         7. aras, why dont you get your head out of your ass and stop dissing people you know nothing about?
            English Bob is a cool chap and honestly, your the one who needs to get out of here… we dont do emasculating crap here on ROK… GET LOST and more importantly get a life… bitch!

         8. At least I have your attention.

         9. Agreed.

         10. I was about to say, too, I’ve seen Englishbob’s coments on RoK for a long time now and his seems ok by me.
             It’s the influx of these recent bitchy, name-calling clowns that really is an irritant.

         11. shut the fuck up, asshole, and crawl back in your yurt……….bob knows his shit, and you clearly don’t

      2. Ye, you really should ask people what they prefer. It might be a good tool for you to use when trying to find out what people prefer.

      3. I’ve realized that today if a girl marries young, like in her late teens, everyone will tell her she’s “ruining her life”, even if she is getting married to an engineer with a six figure salary who’ll take good care of her. Yet, if that same girl is left a single baby momma by the neighborhood drug dealer, that’s cause for celebration and no one should judge her. Before feminism, the opposite was true.

         1. It is such a sad state of affairs. People literally put guns to their heads, and treat you like a fool for telling them to put the gun down! It almost has to be allowed to fail as an example.

         2. Women should marry and give birth between 16-20 years old. That is their true function. They are biologically mature children in their own right and have no ability to make logical decisions. They are property, moreover, they want to be owned, dominated and lead. When left to their own devices these children act out in all sorts of self-destructive ways. That is why you see them doing all sorts of insane nonsense like twerking in street festivals and riding hundreds of cocks in their lifetime. They are owned, they are following, except it is not a normal healthy and masculine patriarchy. The power they follow is the government, the media and the education system that has fed our adult children social poison.
            Women should have no rignt to vote.
            Women should not be in the miltary.
            Women should not be in the workplace, except in certain vocations where
            feminine qualities are desireable, i.e grammar school teachers and nursing.
            Women should be married off at an early age to give birth and submit to their husband.
            Women are happiest when their overly emotional and child like brains are applied to raising children.

         3. This is why I gave up on having rational conversation with women. If you think about it, game wouldn’t be needed if women were rational beings. A woman will always think her emotions are right. Except in certain circumstances, like old ladies with wisdom, I generally disregard the opinions of women.

         4. damn, time travelling is a thing! go back to your cave.

         5. Oh sweetums, how self deluded you are. I can’t wait till the Hajis get here by the millions like they are in Europe. Just picture yourself surrounded by snarling, dirty animalistic Arabs, Ficki, Ficki….Ficki, Ficki. They will all take turns raping you and then beat you to death. You will be nothing more than an unclean whore deserved of rape and death. They are not going to care about your feminist nonsense. They will laugh when you tell them you are their equals and they have no right to defile you. They will shove their cock in your mouth while your gurgle about women’s rights.
            And then you will scream for American men to come to your aid and protect you. Everything you have, your illusion of being a strong independent woman, your affirmative action office cube job, the legal power you wield over men is all an illusion. Without us you are just rape meat. We keep you safe through marshall force. We build the buildings you park your fat ass in to collect your paycheck. We keep the power on, build the roads, everything you take for granted you owe to us.
            Believe me, if that sick, twisted raging bull dyke is elected she will bring the Kabobs to give you Ficki, Ficki.

         6. I recall someone trying to hook me up with a woman who had 3 kids. When they saw the expression on my face their replay was: “So? what’s wrong with having kids?” totally ignoring the fact that i know 2 of the 3 baby daddies and that she should be finding one of the dads or someone who doesn’t mind playing the part instead of a umm… plumber or pipe cleaner.
            It’s amazing how the Ugly Woman Union™ aka feminism decided we should deal with their shitty decisions.

         7. My only dealing with a woman with 3 kids is a fuck buddy.

         8. Oh sweetums, how self deluded you are. Your vision is myopic, to say the least. Im not from America, Im from India. I don’t work out of a cube, I own a business. Im probably more educated than you, with a political science major, and a masters in advertising. What you don’t know is feminism is very much relevant in my country. And oh, I don’t hate men. Surprise! Everything is not about ‘Merica.

         9. You are from India? My bad. I could give a shit less then. Everything may not be “bout Merica”, but it certainly is not about that primitive, filthy, sick and diseased shit-hole India. You are Indian men’s problem.
            Political Science? LOL! That is by far the easiest major in college. It’s a major for people too stupid to be in college.
            I have a Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering. I loathe liberal arts majors.

         10. Yeah? Well this girl who picked up a relatively easy major, from a filthy sick shit-hole third world country, is still MORE educated than you and is earning MORE than you (I can guarantee that). I bloomed where I was sown, you on the other hand just spew hate. Shame on you. You should empower people, not bring them down. Go find a purpose in life. This has nothing to do with man/woman, and has nothing to do with borders.
             PS you’re forgetting, or your ignorant ass doesn’t know, most Indians are engineers/doctors. Do a quick check on the engineers around you, majority of them would be Indians. In ‘Merica.

         11. Most of the engineers where I work are White, there are some Indians, but they are all MEN. The truth is it is my purpose in life to hate. I want the Indians out of America. I want all brown and yellow bipeds gone….gone back to their country, and most especially Jews and their African pets. I want a country for and by White people. I don’t want Indians coming here on H1B visas to take jobs away from Americans because they work for 1/2 what the American is getting. I don’t give a fuck about “empowering” you or any other non-European bipeds. I am sick to death of Indians and other non-White bipeds coming to this country to take advantage of “diversity” laws and special privilege dark skin affords them. I can’t blame them however, it is a result of our treasonous Jew run government.
             I love you though. I love because you are in India. You have a country and India is where you belong. India for Indians, China for Chinese, Africa for Africans, European countries belong to everyone but Europeans, and America is a European counrty. Bullshit on that. Multiculturalism and White people laying down for their own dispossesion, those days are coming to an end, so is feminism. Hopefully Indian men will follow suit and knock you up and put you in the kitchen. You will be much happier tending to your children, if you are not so old that your womb has dried up. You won’t feel the need to come on to a men’s forum to argue about what a strong empowered woman you are.
             Yes, I am a Nazi.

   4. here i found it
      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/the-fundamental-premise/

      1. Thanks!

   5. What pays more a sperm bank or an egg donor?

   6. Thanks for the dance part. I didn’t knew, fascinating. You know more old traditions of selection of mates ?

   7. This comment would make a great article.

   8. Yes. Most definitely yes. Many things men are attracted to in women have a basis in their health and his healthy their offspring will be.
      You mentioned long, thick hair as a health indicator.
      The hip to waist ratio of 0.7 is another (thin waist = good metabolism and wider hips mean a baby can pass through them; the “child-bearing hips”)
      Thin ankles means good thyroid function (“fine ankles” used to be a compliment)
      Pretty, symmetrical face means a higher likelihood a child will have this too. It’s been shown that a prettier child will receive more attention than a non-pretty child. More attention = greater care given to it and greater chance of survival.
      A round, firm ass will mean strong gluteal muscles, meaning she would have the strength and speed to run away from danger (human or otherwise) with child in-tow.
      Other general health indicators: bright, clear eyes; clear skin; fingernails and toe nails (certain dots will mean a nutritional deficiency)

      1. I’m working on getting my girlfriend to exercise more, she needs to lose a few lbs. But she has a very pretty face, great arse, and hips, decent enough legs and pretty eyes….. your list was like a mental checklist I went through in my head automatically when deciding whether she would be a one night stand or potential long term. In spite of carrying that extra weight these other qualities and her kind, caring nurturing nature, indicating she will be an excellent mother are why I’ve stayed with her.

      2. The 0.7 WHR is the biggie and appears to hold true across cultures and over time. I’ve been with some rather buxom chicks but when the ass, waist and tits are balanced, they still look and feel sexy, even if they aren’t a spinner.

   9. That’s a mighty comment/rant doktor

   10. good stuff. of course the modern day SJW would retort that since we no longer need to “work the land” and bearing that many children is no longer a question of survival, we should all therefore be happy to hump faties since we have triumphantly overcome living off the land.

   11. Wasn’t belly dancing done by whores and slaves though? Surely a belly dancer was not a prospective wife.
       In any case, I personally find sick women off putting – along with women who don’t exercise or eat well.

       1. A lot of chicks who go veggie or vegan don’t do it right and they end up looking sickly. Some look anorexic or zombie like.

          1. It’s pretty much impossible to do vegan ‘right’ without a load of supplements that really aren’t good for you long term. Protein, fats and cholesterol ( maybe one of the most misunderstood ) all contribute to healthy muscle and brain function. There is truly no substitute for meat and eggs. The fear mongering concerning cholesterol has been exposed as bull at this point. Cholesterol in particular is key for brain function. As a species we were made to eat meat.

          2. Pretty much. If you live in a western top tier city you can have access to food from around the world and can cobble together a diet with a workable balance of protein, fat, carbs minerals and such. However, it’s not easy and can get expensive so it only works for those who are somewhat religious about it.

          3. I am sure you would love him or her regardless.

          4. If a family member decided to take the plunge I would be supportive, but I could never have a serious relationship with a woman who won’t eat meat; too much hassle. In theory, a vegan girl won’t swallow either.

          5. Nah in my experience vegans swallow…they need the protein.

          6. So you convinced them to compromise thir ethics. Bravo!

          7. One of my colleagues is vegan, and she’s constantly ill.

   12. This comment reflects my overall view of the world and society. Since we started saving everyone, from everything, there has been a sharp decline in the standards in society, culture and people. Natural selection needs to make a comeback.

       1. Welfare is a prime example of what you speak of.

       2. You would feel alright in being one of the first to go?

          1. Now that is an assumption of the highest order. Drop the loaded question and attempt to gain some understanding of me, my abilities and what I’m capable of before writing me off, first to go my arse!

          2. if you had good genetics, ie tall masculine face perfect skin showing evolutionary advantage, you wouldn’t be here, you would be in bed with 2 hot girls while texting your jet set bros to pick you up to the private airport. in fact you wouldn’t be using the internet for anything except social media and google maps

          3. I fail to see the relevancy of your point. Are you going to counter my points made with an argument or are you going to make random comments ad hominem?

          4. I am ok being the first to go. I have not been blessed with anything but being to nice. I’m short, slightly overweight though I work out all the time. I’m bald and my teeth need work. All I have is humor and being too nice. In short, I have been the one born with no SMV and I bear it all because someone like me has to be born and bear that burden. Still I find a little happiness in my life but would let it go because I will never find a woman who feels about me the way I would about her. That would lead to me being a beta with a woman who called all the shots while cheating on me continuously. So fuck it, as long as I’m around I will be the one girls hate and so look for one of you guys. You should all thank me for taking every bad thing a man can have and rolling it in to one. I alone raise your smv by being around. My pain is your collective gain.

          5. If only hot people were the only ones allowed to breed then everyone would be hot. Demand enforced sterilization of uglies and everyone wins. While we’re at it, anyone with any disability, disease or IQ below 85. Utopia!

          6. im not arguing with your points. im arguing with you claiming you’re genetically adapted

          7. At what point is that claimed? If it is implied then state it is implied. Go away, research the structure of arguments then re-engage me in debate.

          8. I have no issues with what you said.

       3. don’t hold your breath on that one, mr saxon……..look at the mass of young people bernie sanders is attracting to his rallies……..we’re headed the opposite way…………fast

          1. The battle lines need to be drawn…. I’m tired of waiting.

          2. bernie is promising something for nothing…….free health care, free college, etc. ……..the smartphone generation doesn’t want to work, and those of us who do can’t afford those who don’t……..yours will be an uphill battle, mr saxon

          3. Trump will win…. shock-waves will be sent throughout the west. There will be a traditional conservative revival. The west is based on English working men’s values…. Silently conservative. Which is why the horror of a Labour/SNP coalition brought about a Tory majority.

          4. well, damn……i hope you’re right……and i hope i’m wrong about the 20-30 somethings

          5. Farage had 4 million votes in the UK…. only thing that kept him out was a surge in Tory votes because the fear of the SNP. Americans don’t have that issue. The silent majority will wade in with their say….. FN in France made good headway until blocked by opposition parties… the average man on the street isn’t as degenerate as we think he is…. though he is not as well mastered as his grandfathers there is still a sizable percentage of good people out there… just gotta remember that.

          6. i think you underestimate the lack of ambition that is a strong undercurrent here among our younger people……..we tend to do shit in a big way, including political shifts……..if not now, soon……..my generation, and those older than i, are dreading the tsunami that’s coming

          7. So I’m clear, Tsunami of?

          8. a whole generation of young americans who think the government should provide for them………they do not see any reason to fend for themselves, with the democrats telling them they don’t have to

          9. Which is why I look forward to the collapse and civil unrest. It’ll purge the weak.

          10. “collapse” and “civil unrest” are understatements…….i’m glad i’m 57 and will most likely miss the show…….occupiers rarely disturb a cemetery

   13. You said it all – particularly that last line. Understanding those SMV mechanics – (what I usually clump together as ‘evolutionary biology’ in mixed company) IS everything. The best news for men – as the OP makes clear is that virtually all aspects can be manipulated for increased success. Cheers

4. Honest article, esp. vis-a-vis height. I’m short (5’4″) and it absolutely SUUUUUCKS.

   1. So what? Get that insecurity out of your head. You’re 5′ 4″ and it doesn’t make you inferior. Don’t let it bother you and especially don’t let it be a hindrance for you to go talk to girls.

      1. First, I never said I NEVER approach because of my height. I just said it sucks. It’s the equivalent of being a heavy girl, except she can lose weight.

         1. Don’t get so defensive over it. Treat your height as just a number like your shoe size. Why would it suck? It is what it is. Your reaction shows that you are bothered by it.

         2. Not defensive, just clarifying because I don’t think you comprehended what I typed.
            Yes I am bothered by things that suck. Do I dwell on them every second of every day? No. But you must acknowledge the obstacle there. It is not easy to be “alpha” when most women are taller than you. Most men don’t take you seriously. Are there ways to overcome these obstacles? Of course. It’s just difficult and SOMETIMES (when the topic comes up) it reminds you it kind of sucks. Capiche?

         3. You know, I’m 5’7″ attractive fit good job etc….I’ve done good with women. The two most attractive women I’ve seen over the past year…I’m talking unicorns here…pretty, fit, nice the whole 9 yards. One was with a guy who was barely 5’4, he was a well dressed guy. The other was with a guy who was my height, not exactly a good dresser and almost kind of a tool just from looking at him. I’m almost 40 and I’ve seen very attractive girls with all sorts of different men. The height thing is retarded, you can get past it

         4. Once you get them in the bedroom your peen will look larger in proportion due to your height. Silver lining.

         5. True! Like a V-8 in a 2-Door roadster!

   2. Asia brother. If all else fails, head for the Orient.

5. Nice.. I bet that with all the recent controversy that RoK got, a large number of men that are yet to swallow the red pill will access the website and they need to be in contact with the fundamental truths that the red pill reveals, the realities of the SMV market being one of the first…. I believe RoK veterans are already well aware of this, but it’s always good to review the basics. Good article, Troy!

   1. I like that this (and a few others) are going a little more back to basics for the new readers (eg this article explains what SMV is)

   2. In addition to game reviews some concise review articles on the perils of Globalism and Marxism etc, would be a good idea.

6. I always had high SMV problem was I never knew that. Funny how that works. You can have all the genetic card in your hand but if you cant pull that one Ace out of self confidence it doesn’t mean a damn thing. Shit didn’t click for me until my late 20’s.

   1. Same here man. My family, relatives and friends would tell me I’m a good looking guy but I never believed them due to my low confidence. Now, with my confidence increasing, it’s crazy how things have improved for me. Have a lot more to go but always good to see the progress

   2. I was a nerdy 18 year old virgin who had never dated. I finally said “fuck this”. In the space of a month I cut my hair, got contact lenses, joined the army reserve, started wearing trendy clothes and fronted a rock band. I started to lift, studied martial arts and joined the university debating team.
      .
      At that point, I was happy with my life and didn’t have to run game or chase after women. Enough simply landed in my lap to keep things interesting. Making these types of changes are good for your psyche; women are a side effect of building your confidence, being the best you you can be, and simply learning to enjoy life.

7. Confidence is king. She’ll chase you.

8. One of the things that betas and feminists will bring to the table about this is “Where are the FEELINGS?” Well, I don’t know abut you guys, but I get to choose how I deal with what I feel. The above is a strategy and nothing is said that it lacks emotion. But, there will be those to comment that you must write a novel or an ode to romantic love for this to be a viable article.
   Horseshit. Ladies (male & female), when you read this please bring to mind every article in Cosmo that has ever had to do with dealing with the opposite sex. “Where’s the rooomaaaaaance? You guys are pigs!”
   .
   Men want respect and women want love. Were the social market different, a lot of ladies would realize that respecting a man will bring them what they want far faster than the “shit tests” in Cosmo. Move to a smaller rural community and see how well those techniques work. Cosmo shit tests are for large urban centers where choice is plentiful. I know as I grew up in that environment and the girls are what most guys would describe as “friendlier”.
   But, when one man speaks to creating more socially confident men and pointing out that this will attract women, HE is some sort of misogynist. Shortsighted at best and downright ignorant in general to say so.

   1. I agree and double on the rural small town girls.
      Why is it misogynist to have personal standards of what you find acceptable in a woman (or the relationship with her)? Lots of fish in the sea as they say.
      Why is it misogynist to understand and accept the basic biological and physiological difference in the sexes or to value them? All this fabricated feminist/SJW crap is poison to healthy male/female relationships.

      1. One answer suffices: Women inherently believe that they aren’t worth a damn, so they believe we MUST hate them too.

   2. There is a definitely lack of respect – unless the girl is frumpy and not “hot,” she’s always, in my experience, a total bitch. In the old country, a woman demonstrated her value by cooking a nice meal for her suitor, now I’m the one who has to cook dinner AND fuck their brains out. Luckily, I enjoy cooking and find it to be a relaxing hobby.

9. What I find frustrating about these beginner game articles is that they always draw a picture of the ultimate loser male chasing a super model female. The OP is highlighting contrasts to make a point more obvious, but most readers aren’t going to look like the pic of that omega male, and I never see any model quality babes except on TV or on the internet. In america now any female that ranks 7 would be an endangered species, and males are so thirsty they grovel for any other females with normal BMI.
   Also what’s with the guy in pic curling 50 lbs? wtf.

   1. “Also what’s with the guy in pic curling 50 lbs? wtf.” <—-Priceless! 🙂

      1. Funny thing. I did this 100 rep challenge once. It was 100 light bench press. Supposed to activate different muscle fibers. I was mostly doing it because it seemed like a fun way to change things up one day. So I had the bar plus 2 25lbs plates so 95 pounds. It was early am and I was alone in the weight room.
         No shit, but the 85th rep I was struggling. Of course, of course, of course what happens? This stupid hot girl comes walking in the weight room right about lift 95 to see me sweating my ass off and trying to struggle with my 95lbs bench press over 5 reps.
         SMH. I laughed it off later, but she totally noticed and I was so pissed.
         Point is, if all I see is a snap shot of a work out I no longer judge. That guy who is deadlifting 135 and struggling might be on his 95th rep.

         1. I do 5*10, 4*10 and 3*10 in cycles, so I get a lot of judgment when deadlifting 400 or benching 250. Until I tell them I have 40+ reps under my belt.

         2. Big rep range and heavy. Bravo dude.
            When I do my heavy days for deadlift I will go 405x3x2. If I am feeling ballsy I will add to it, but I am fresh from my herniated disc issues over the summer and just finally broke back into 400 club and am not looking to push it just yet.

         3. My family has genetic back issues, so I use a hex bar. I make up for this using 35 plates to add to my range of motion. Works like a charm, and doing military with the hex bar gives a perfect push/pull combination of exercises.

         4. cool. this is my first time dealing with back issues. I will give that a shot.

         5. Simply just don’t give a fuck what any woman thinks when you’re in the gym. If she thought you were some weakling struggling with 95 lbs., so what? Let her worry about what you think about her.

         6. Of course you are right which is why I said it was funny

         7. At that point, you wait for her to get near enough, then start saying “one-thousand and ninety-four, one-thousand and ninety-five…”

         8. Ha, no, I never aim to impress.

         9. I don’t think this is something you generally will need to explain.

         10. Yeah, I have to drop the weights significantly for the 80, 90, or 100 rep volume days. However generally I see most people barely deadlift about 90-140. Ugh! Worse than I expected, lol

         11. Sometimes it is fun though time consuming and ultimately unfulfilling I think. My favorite rep range is 3-5 performed twice.
             As a sufferer of injuries I try hard not to judge people who are not lifting even their body weight. Right after my herniated disc I couldn’t even walk and after my knee…forget about it (hence my name). I have had to fight back to the top a few times.

         12. Yes, I totally understand. However in my case, though I do realize sometimes there’s a good reason some are lifting lightly/moderately, more often than not I’ve observed many guys simply not pushing themselves within the 6-8-10 rep guidelines, and never reaching muscle fatigue.
             That being said, I never criticize but try to give positive encouragement and give some friendly advice where welcome. I do remind people that (despite not always knowing how to work out very well) they’re miles ahead of the people too lazy to even go to the gym at all.

         13. couldn’t agree more.
             As for elevavated rep range and lighter weight…well, 3/1 starts the summer cut for me (I would usually wait until 3/15 but I have a Miami wedding to go to in May) so my postings will get crankier as I start lowering weight and carbs and over all choleric intake and increasing reps and cardio length and intensity.

      2. It looks like a stock photo. I’d imagine he had to hold it up like that for a little while, just so the photographer could get a few shots.
         This, of course, after the photographer had him set up the shot so the focus could come out right. And if you look at his face and neck, you can tell that this isn’t exactly stressful for him (not a lot of tension there).
         Analysis: dude can probably curl twice that, and maybe he did that day.

   2. I think that’s one of the problems PUAs have teaching things to other men . Not all of us will bang a 10, besides game some of that stuff is just pure damn luck . I think one thing some guys won’t admit to that helps significantly for new guys is simply, run your technique on girls of every type . Ugly , pretty , fat , sunny , black, white , etc till you find where you fit in and what type , you as a man , attract.

      1. totally agree except for ugly and fat. Unless you just want numbers.
         I am with Roosh. I would never tap something over 150

         1. Yes but judging by your post you’ve had a handle on your methods for a awhile . This was more so directed at men just starting out . Hell sometimes when I’m bored late at night I call on a night fighter . If they’re ugly in the face , turn the lights off. If they’re fat , just have them blow you

         2. Indeed. I have suggested to guys on here that since fat girls think they are princesses, running your act on them is good practice….they don’t react any different than most 8’s and 9’s smh.
            I do suggest bailing out before physicality thought and only use them for beginner game practice or trying out something new. The thing is, when you bang a pig, I notice a lot of guys get stuck in pig mentality. When you start banging hot women then you get stuck in that mentality (oddly it also works for races…I’ve had Russian streaks, south American streaks, etc). Like breeds like I believe so while fatties are ok for honing skills I would never suggest fucking them.

         3. there’s this fat chick that wants to fuck. but I can’t bring myself to fuck her. A blow will suffice, but she’ll beg for more and that would be an uncomfortable situation.

         4. If you’re bored one night just do it . Get blown then deny her anything else , it’s pretty rewarding .

         5. Thanks!

         6. “the thing is, when you bang a pig, I notice a lot of guys get stuck in pig mentality. When you start banging hot women then you get stuck in that mentality”
            Golden advice man, very true. I’d advise all men looking to dabble in pigs to remember this.

         7. I think the men you are trying to advise would be better off by you telling them to find out what the other person would prefer.

         8. Tell her how you feel.

         9. Fatties for me have been very easy, very grateful and almost always eager to please… while I am not big on faties… if they have a decent face, nice tits and a good ass, I might look the other way if their attitude is correct.
            There is one that I would dub a night fighter… it does not matter when I call her or what I want, she is down and is always grateful… now I usually dont tap this resource more then once a month tops… but the cooperative nature of said ‘fatty’ certainly endears her to me in a certain way that most women just cant compete with.
            Just saying!!!

         10. I am aware of the reality of this situation, I just worry about getting lazy because of it. It’s like eating mcdonalds. One day you just have a Big Mac because you worked 20 hours and just said fuck it and 2 years later you are a pig. Night fighter is a gateway drug

         11. Then what would be the point of my advice?

         12. I’m dying right now hahah, I thought night fighter was a USA east coast thing . Night fighters world wide!

         13. Haha. Just don’t slip up. Had a friend of mine get his once a month pregnant. Now he is stuck with her ass for life!

         14. 150lbs? Even if she were 6’2″?

         15. If that actually happens I will bravely eat a bullet… hahahah

         16. You are right of course… fatties should be used as an emergency thirst pacifier. I will note however that fatties also cost nothing because they are usually so grateful you can get them to buy things for you… if your so inclined that is. But over all yes, the fast food/fatty comparison was hilarious and spot on.

         17. I will leave open possible exceptions for any women’s volleyball team that might be interested in my genitals…but general rules are good to have.

         18. I find, and you should try this one out, that if you treat all women — even, no, especially hot ones — as if they were fatties they will all be as grateful as adele getting a cock with doughnuts on it.
             Even Stormi Heneley (who is probably as perfect a woman as there is…at least until she hits the wall in a few years) has an inner fat girl.
             Heed the sage advice of the great Philosopher Slick Rick and “treat ’em like a prostitute” in this case a fat prostitute

         19. Bwuahahahahahaha, you never cease to crack me up… advice noted. 😉

      2. I don’t think 10’s exist. But I have been with mostly 8’s and 9’s and wasn’t even in great shape at the time. I made a Russian magazine model laugh and was in her moist pants shortly thereafter. I don’t think this article accounts for charm. Girls really do just wanna have fun. Make her laugh and you are more than half way there. Practice on 6’s and soft 7’s to start. Never go below a 6 unless she is absolutely hilarious or will let you try new things.

         1. I think the numbering system is subjective to the person as well , my idea of a 10 and yours may vary drastically

   3. I think I know why you might find it hard to find people up to your standards.

   4. 50 Ibs is not that much really to curl with one arm… withing one year of working out I was curling 45 Ibs consistently. Not sure what your gripe is about that!

10. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk. SMV ain’t everything

11. Is anyone here a male in a mostly female industry? I wonder if male teachers, male bank tellers, males that work at hooters, get massive amounts of women by simple being in close proximity?

    1. Having briefly worked in such industries in the past, I can say from observation it would all depend on the frame / dominance that the guy projected. Beta orbiter will get nothing but “friendship” if a girl can give you that.. A stronger guy who puts off a “don’t give a shit” attitude can do very well in this environment, but really doesn’t belong there.

       1. If the male starts to be perceived as one the girls, its game over.

    2. Depends on the industry. Take nurses for instance. Mainly female industry, however wide range of ages of women. Straight male nurses out number gay ones (despite what TV would have you believe). Males tend to be very alpha – need to be to take charge of patients and hold their own with their female colleagues. However, most straight male nurses tend to enter the profession after working in other industries, so are already family men by that point. I guess they do get the attention, and the young ones who are still on the market generally are around the same age as the girls who go straight into nursing after college. I guess it comes down to a matter of being smart enough not to shit where they eat, given the team environment they work in.

12. Of course women are valued by their looks even by other women. Just looking at the magazine rack at your local supermarket register will prove this. Other than the oddball like Lena Dunham or Amy Schumer, most mags like Cosmo show in their covers the women that precisely appeal to the average man, ergo, that’s what the average woman apires to, whether they admit it or not.

    1. Amy Schumer on a mag cover? I’m going to buy that right away… Her manner, not her looks, makes her disgusting.

       1. Enjoy, I guess…..
          http://www.glamour.com/images/entertainment/2015/07/amy-schumer-cover-main.jpg

          1. Allow me to correct myself, her manner makes her disgusting, and her looks don’t improve her case… Amazing that the powers that be are trying to sell so many foul mouthed women, and also sell them as sexy. What demographic are they hitting? white, upper class teen age girls?

          2. I think that a woman’s poor manners make her looks look worse than they are. You see a photo shoot of some Victoria Secret model and then when you see her in a video with a cuntish attitude, makes your dick turtle back into the shell.

          3. I actually don’t find her ugly in this cover. I do find her to be quite plain looking. I wish she looked ugly. At least there would be something worthy to comment about.That explains a bit her Princess Leia shtick on GQ though.

          4. Agreed.

          5. You are right, she isn’t ugly, but her manner does make her so. A different manner, and, yes, she’d be attractive.

          6. Maybe just a little bit photoshop there don’t you think?
             http://i2.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/amy-schumer-beach-bikini-pp.jpg?resize=800%2C450

          7. Indeed. At least she’s not Lena Dunham.

          8. Man the whorepoons

          9. But the tramp stamp man ….she looks like every white trash mom

          10. We got a 21st c captain ahab over here

          11. Let us be grateful.
              http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HJvaJyVvBD4/Vb5779IaUnI/AAAAAAAAN2s/4ml-XZmRxwo/s1600/Body%2BProud%2BLena%2BDunham%2BRocks%2BBikini%2BFor%2BCharity%2BRace.jpg

          12. “Bow down, it’s Amy”
              Ok, I’ll get right on that.

          13. The irony here is, for all their talk about how us men are all mysoginists, the women behind these fashion magazines are more misogynistic than us because, let’s face it, if it wasn’t for Dunham and Schumer’s sudden fame, they would never appear in a cover. They would be the fat chicks that got bullied in high school, by the Mean Girl stereotypes that run these magazines, no less.

          14. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I’ve been triggered, again!

          15. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I’ve been triggered!

13. Great article, Troy. Let’s hope the newcomers to this site understand this reality.

14. Brilliant no-nonsense straight to the point article. Once more, self improvement is key. And the nice thing is: once you have made a list of attributes where there should be (a lot of) improvement, and you work hard on to achieve some of them, the rest automatically follows mostly. E.g. you want to have a muscular body, but you also want to have self confidence to be socially more attractive. Working hard to get that muscular body and sticking to your goals despite disappointments will automatically boost your self confidence.
    There is really no excuse to lay back and whine in self-pity, and this applies to both males and females.

    1. And once you make vast improvements, you’ll discover that getting the women isn’t all that great after all. Don’t let that discourage you from continuing in your self improvement. Getting the women is not the ultimate goal. It’s just a side benefit.

       1. This times 1000. Started lifting to lose fat a couple years ago and just recently started doing yoga on my alternate days. While the attention from women is a nice benefit, I’d prefer to be in shape and increase my knowledge to further my own personal goals.

          1. You can never go wrong posting up in the back of a hot yoga class

       2. You might find not referring to people as “the women” to be of use to your happiness, your pursuit of life, self improvement, etc.

15. I don’t understand. You say Women are the problem (which I agree) yet telling men to continue chasing them is somehow the solution? How is changing who you are as a man in order to gain access to women going to change women’s behavior or give men a sense of self worth? Who I am as a man depends upon the validation i receive from females? I don’t think so. Going your own way as a man is the ONLY way for self – preservation and self-worth. It is better to be your self and live alone than to become something you know you’re not just to impress some narcissistic bitch who doesn’t give a shit about who you really are as a person.

16. The correct Russian way of dealing with rapefugees.
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/russia-muslim-migrants-grope-and-molest-women-get-beaten-up

    1. Russians don’t play.

17. The Red Pill solution is, from what I have learned, the following:
    1.
    Improve your self every day, in every way, you can. This will help you
    live a healthy, happy, long life full of benefits including beautiful
    women.
    2. Realize that all, or damn near all, women are broken,
    and enjoy their company for what it is, but do not marry or support her.
    Equality means equality, which means you can get the milk without
    buying the cow, and maybe even without renting the cow, because the cow
    has got to be milked by someone, and you’re a good candidate because of
    #1.
    3. If you find the unicorn, marry or LTR her while
    maintaining frame, and have kids and be happy. If you don’t find her,
    continue with #2 and be happy until you no longer feel the need, and
    continue with #1 and be happy until the day you die.
    Ultimately,
    women are not the source of your happiness; you are. The point of a
    good life is not to find a woman; the point of a woman is to be merely
    part of your good life.

    1. This was in reply to a comment that got the axe while I was typing; if it seems a little spontaneous.

    2. This. Now on a note on my fridge.

    3. Well said…

    4. This needs to be a mini article…

18. would you rather have a threesome or sex two times in a day with a different girl?

    1. I had to change hotels in jakarta because the bitches just wouldn’t stop calling my room. They’re fucking crazy.

       1. I’m sure you did something to rile the “bitches” up.

19. This is solid advice. A bitter pill to swallow for many, but the truth no-less.

20. This is something I had to deal with recently. I’m tall, have a life that I love, work out regularly, and have passions I work towards every day. Recently I became involved with a girl who, lifestyle-wise, was the complete opposite of me – Late 20’s, unemployed, still lived at home, had no hobbies. But things still didn’t work out because, given her shortcomings in terms of her life, she was a gorgeous girl and because of that automatically had a higher SMV than me.
    I was amazed looking at her social media presence – She could post a selfie and within a couple minutes she could have easily 30 likes and a bunch of comments from dudes telling her how pretty she was. I’ve never experienced that on social media, even when announcing major milestones or accomplishments in my life. So for all the work I’ve done to improve myself, I still don’t measure up in terms of value to a girl who’s pretty and is good at taking photos of herself.
    The thing is my value will increase over time, while hers will go down once she hits 30-35. And this is exactly where a lot of AFCs come from since they assume that while women are in their prime then they should be in their prime, as well.

    1. Welcome to the red pill. It goes down hard and burns a bit, but the truth will change who you are if you accept it.

    2. She might have had alot of friends, while you were busy theorizing about why noone but yourself were able to spot your greatness.

       1. What the fuck?
          You are all over. Do you even have a fucking job?

21. Good article. And what’s wrong with Atlanta?? Haha. We have plenty of women that wouldn’t make it in Thailand. And plenty that would. Haha

    1. Too many fat chicks here in Atlanta and 5s who have baggage and are damaged goods. But yeah, occasionally I see a few that turn my head.

       1. I’m sure you’re neither fat, nor comes with baggage.

          1. That’s correct. Im in excellent shape, strong, well dressed, and have a great disposition. Unlike so many women I see I work hard to improve myself.
             I accept the realities the author wrote about.

          2. What? You lift weights? How athletically useless.
             Lifting weights to get a nice body is the epitome of homosexuality.
             Real men do useful things like gymnastics, wrestling, boxing…
             Not that mental masturbation called Lifting dumbbells.

          3. It’s actually quite the opposite of athletically useless. Weightlifting (and other strength building exercise, not so discount cardio of course) are excellent supplements and give an advantage in many sports.
             “Lifting weights to get a nice body is the epitome of homosexuality.”
             This is one of the most bizarre thing’s I’ve ever heard. I do so to reap the rewards I get from additional positive attention from women but primarily for myself. It is the epitome of improved heterosexuality: gained confidence and increased testosterone, along many other traits.
             And yes, I’ve done kickboxing too. I did additionally well and got comments because of my physical condition.
             There is no “mental masturbation” in sacrifice, continually striving for goals, increased testosterone, and gaining physical strength and sexual appeal to women. When a man earns something through hard work, it builds character and the ability to strive for self-improvement.
             One of the side benefits is that nay-sayers like yourself naturally avoid confrontation with men like myself. You’re shielded by hiding behind a keyboard.
             I think you’re a very confused man & hateful guy. Nothing that you said reflects what is common knowledge.
             Those who have personal insecurities and anger inside lash out at others and insult and attempt to tear down their achievements. It’s rather sad to see.

          4. Except women don’t give a shit how you look. Obviously you have some underlying homoerotic fixation with your body, which is why I said lifting weights is the epitome of homosexuality.
             No, I’m a gymnast and I also do Judo. That’s where I discovered first hand how underpowered and athletically useless these meaty dumbbell faggots were.
             Some guy could bench 200 kgs yet couldn’t even do a handstand. A man who can not lift, pull, push, or balance his own weight is useless and no one gives a shit whether or not your abs are toned.
             Only vain materialists think big muscles = athleticism.
             I say get your head out of your ass and do a useful sport. It’s what real men do. Leave the dumbbells to homosexuals.
             If you want real strength then try a planch on the rings 😉

          5. “Except women don’t give a shit how you look.”
             This is completely false, and a well known fact is that women (typically) respond better to a more physically appealing man.
             How do I know? Women have given me subtle looks and some have stopped me to talk, and given me compliments. I’ve gotten several phone numbers because of being well-dressed and have a good body.
             You’re not here to learn, contribute, or add anything useful. Just here like some of the others to express your anger and attempt to take out your insecurities on the men here.
             Not going to waste my time on those such as yourself.

22. Great article. Troy is absolutely spot on when he says that this is a fundamental truth. Probably one of the most important ones you will ever learn in your life, too, for both men and women. Once you understand this, you understand most of how men and women size each other up in general. This then allows you not only to tune your own radar in terms of identifying traits in women you want, but also honestly and critically analyse yourself so you can begin your second (and most important) lifelong career: improving yourself and increasing your own SMV. Make no mistake, kiddos, we may call it ‘sexual’ market value, but it affects EVERY aspect of your life.
    Also, Troy, my man, please warn us before posting Meghan Trainor again. She is the poster child for mentally diseased, bitchy and entitled millennial women. I almost spilt my coffee. It’s a shame, really; with a well-enforced gym membership, she’d make a reasonably cute stay-at-home mum.

23. Why does ROK still churn out this nonsense?
    Only Western men need to learn sleazy salesman talk in order to convince their harlot women to sleep with them.
    Casual sex has no intrinsic value, any seasoned player can tell you this.
    All this game nonsense is essentially an admission that you men don’t have a functioning patriarchy to ensure your sexual (and ultimately civilizational) Needs are met.
    And you only have yourself to blame. Because Muslims are way ahead of you. They have solidarity in each other and the convictions of their religion which gives them the supremacy confidence necessary to settle their women problems.
    They even screw your women on the side when not busy doing jihad against you.
    White men just have their special snowflake individual preferences, lift bro!, and all this dignity-lowering game talk to compensate their lack of solidarity. Who wants solidarity with a bunch of Judases who will sell you out for the 30 pieces of silver called a vagina? I’ve seen it enough by now.
    How pathetic. No wonder Islam is making inroads into our decadent society.

    1. I think you might be finding problem with “the harlots”, and other people in general, mostly due to your inclination to refer to them as “the harlots”, “Muslims”, “Judases” etc.
       I seriously question whether you’re capable of sorting yourself out. What we both know is that women are easy to blame for your shortcomings.

       1. Oh no, I said mean things so my argument must be invalid….
          You think like a woman.

    2. Patriarchy won’t solve all problems. Muslim men don’t have it locked down like that. I’ve dated a few Muslim girls in my time, and they are literally STARVED for Game! A lot of young Muslim young men don’t attempt to learn Game, because they believe they don’t have to since the woman should automatically submit to her husband according to their religion. But Game is not about religion, it’s pre-religion, it’s about the most basic interaction between men and women. And a man with Game given time and oppurtunity, can and will fulfill all the needs of that Muslim wife. As long as they don’t get caught. Lol. Then off with their head. Haha

       1. Game is just ignorant Americans projecting their merchant mentality onto reality. That’s why you sound like sleazy car salesmen and use cheesy retail metaphors (market value, sexual market place, supply demand etc…) How pathetic.
          And yet these ignorant Muslims unschooled in your delusional outlook are seducing, screwing, raping, and trafficking White women all over the west as if we were back in the dark days of the White Moroccan Slave markets. Some White women are even said to enjoy it…
          You cuckold.
          You Anglo people are the height of blind arrogance, and your fall will not be completely undeserved.
          We more realistic and principled Germanic and Slavic mainlanders will however survive. We have suffered and been hardened in ways you soft pussy Anglo bitches have no conception of.

          1. LOL, right on!

          2. Mate as a continental myself I see the flaws of the English speaking world, they are spreading PC garbage, feminism, idiot unfounded ideas of racial equality. I believe us in southern Europe(I’m in Italy) will be able to reverse the cultural marxist trend and get rid of the muslim invaders much earlier than the Anglo world.
             The sales language I find cringeworthy as well.

24. An important part of this is simply believing that you are better than the women you approach. You are doing them a favour by talking to them not the other way round. If they act like they are doing you a favour you should feel insulted.

25. If point is to get laid, just pay a good looking hooker and get over it.
    Work on yourself mentally and physically for sake of yourself, not because of vagina or good looking female empty shell.

26. I distracted as i see ,
    ” I would sleep with Ariana Grande if she worked in McDonalds, but I wouldn’t sleep with Meghan Trainor just because she is on MTV. ”
    This is basically encourages anorexia. How come you prefer skinny child-like body to thick meaty one? Article lost all of its point when you said that. It is really look disgusting to see men prefers skinny children to thick women. Please stop posting articles. You are getting worse as you continue to post articles.

    1. So you’d rather bang Meghan Trainor?

       1. No. I would bang thick women rather than skinny. Meghan and Ariana are both garbage.

          1. Well, everyone quickly line up and bow to the king! Big freaking deal that you have a preference and refuse to let an author also have one.

          2. What about you deal that i have a preference?

          3. I could care less if you want to bang the largest women you can find. What’s your deal claiming the author is somehow promoting anorexia? Women do that to each other.

          4. I hear there is a fetish where a obese women sits and jumps on a man’s face !

          5. Yeah. Facesitting is excellent when made with thick women. You feel the women only if she is thick. If she is anorexic garbage, you may only getting bj from her.

          6. Good if u like obese ones, but don’t disparage slim ones, everyone has different preferences, there are places where they prefer women who have long necks, in some parts they prefer fat ones, women who are pear shaped generally attract the majority !

          7. Get out.

          8. Fair enough. different strokes and all that.

    2. “How come you prefer skinny child-like body to thick meaty one? ”
       We don’t.”thick meaty” = code words for obese.
       Your entire comment is based on a false premise that does not at all follow how men really are.
       As always, another extreme case used to insult and belittle men who desire healthy, attractive women.

27. Why don’t you work on your shitty personalites?
    A guy pulled up to me in a BMW. He was handsome, well dressed, in shape. He was smooth, charming, with a silky voice.
    He grabbed my hand and said I was beautiful and he’d like to know me better.Blah blah blah.
    And I said no. The fact that you are emphasizing your material possessions as proof that you are worthy, is worrying. I can point at my young DD tits all I want (ignoring the guy who likes Arianna Grande’s emaciated body), but that alone doesn’t make for a worthy partner.
    If you want to find a worthy, be authentic. There’s so many devocries because you have women in one corner talking about dumb shit like “oh he has to be 6’9 tall and have a trillion dollars ” and then you have men (usually Asian or white though) who are like “my woman has to look like she came straight out of a concentration camp because I don’t associate with land whales and she has to have F cup silicon flying sauser tits ”
    If that is what you really want, go for it. But when you treat women (or men) like laundry lists of physical or material features, than you aren’t going to establish a genuine connection. And that’s what fucks up relationships.
    No one, not even other women (bisexual /lesbian) like a loud mouthed bitch who takes big heaping shits on logic and doesn’t have any intrests besides shaving her pussy. But if you’regoing to be so enamored by how she looks and what she does for your social status *yeah man, I’m laying Arianna Grande. Tee hee hee. I’m so amazing* yout going to be disappointed.
    You go after the wrong women in the first place, and then come on this man let website to bitch about dumb women are. That’s like if a woman dates an ex convict because he’s an “alpha male” with a big cock. That’s fucking retarded.
    Some shorter men are some of the sweetest people. They go out of their way to put an effort in a relationship, and that is more valuable than a fucking BMW.
    Stop buying cars and clothes and acting like shit. You’ll attract whores with no substance. If that’s what you want, cool. But don’t bitch about “all women”.

    1. This poster lecturing people about looking beyond physical features is hilarious given the racist content of her own posting history:
       “Good, you black fuck. You like being on sexist, woman degrading
       websites, now you’re getting that shit back with racism.Your kind always
       wants to squeeze your crusty, ashy, nappy black asses in with white
       men, and when they don’t respect you and your manhood as equal, just
       like how you people on here don’t respect women as equal, you catch
       feelings. As much as they bash women, their race trumps your gender, so
       if you expect brotherhood, you’re shit out of luck.”
       She then goes on to start ranting that black men apparently don’t all have huge dicks, but you get the picture.

       1. Amen and thrice over! I didn’t even have to read her posts to see that. What is it about these new profile band wagon types that feel their opinion is very important?

       2. I said that because black men place far too much value on their penises and far too little in intellectual and emotional development, and it’s frustrating . I don’t actually care about that. Huge contribute nothing in the grand scheme of things.
          My post isn’t to say “oh your dick is small blah ” but to say, “stop focusing on your dick and fucking, and be a leader.”
          This website preaches men being in charge and being leaders, but sleepING with a bunch of women, littering your community with bastard children, and then running to white men to have a beer with isn’t leader ship.
          If women are so incapable of being rational or what not, and men are, why the fuck aren’t they using that skill to improve themselves and their people?
          Black men don’t respond to calm behavior; they respond to people calling out their shit.
          I don’t like being disrespectful and crass, but this irresponsibility needs to stop. It’s not all if his fault cause he’s just one random guy. But still, one person can make some difference.
          It’s tiring to be the butt if all Americans jokes…..

          1. Please, keep on justifying your racism, but it’s all there on display. You even go so far as talking about “your kind”.

          2. You have some nerve calling me racist. I call out bull shit. You’ll move to another town, deny black people jobs, and tell them to fuck off back to Africa. Big difference pal.

          3. I don’t have some nerve, I have your posting history. You use racist language and you type by skin colour, thus “your kind”, “black men don’t respond”, “nappy black” and other similar racial epithets. Stop hating on account of people’s skin colour and learn a little respect.

    2. Agree about authenticity, et cetera et cetera. But we men actually are turned off by women who look like holocaust victims. We are attracted on a primal level to healthy women. The fact that Ariana Grande is seen as so sexually attractive proves that she is actually right where she should be as far as bmi is concerned.

       1. There’s a difference between healthy and emaciated. Compare her to Demi Lovato, who looks plumper, but still healthy. The extreme level of thiness being petaled as healthy is hurting everyone, not just fat people that people condemn on this website.
          Thin girls who are already healthy start feeling pressure to lose more weight at the risk of their health for vanity. In addition, thin people get into this mind set that they are immune to so called fat people diseases . Being too thin will kill you faster than being too fat.
          It’s not about being petty and wanting male attention despite size. It’s about how women as a collective are killing themselves when there is nothing wrong with them in the first place.
          I agree with you: health is attractive on a primal level. But let’s not confuse health for vanity. Some girls are her size by unhealthy means.

    3. Hello, new account storming the Roosh castle. Why should anyone take YOU seriously? I’d say you have a problem since you had to bring up your DD cup tits. I personally don’t care much for women that look like Holstein cows. Your turn to be “authentic” instead of writing like the same privileged, bitchy women that usually come on here to “school” us.

       1. ^^^This coming from one of the privileged bitches who fester on this site for the soul purpose of getting their dick sucked by emaciated women and circle jerking each othe’s fragile egos?
          No amount of schooling will fix your brain, but a bullet will.

          1. Guys like skinny bitches. Get over it, lardtub.

          2. Nice try, I come here for the brilliant conversation from the likes of you. And what a typical SJW response to somebody calling them out. You should read another article on here about the foul language Social Justice Warriors use when confronted. You’re a poster child.

          3. I’m bisexual, so I don’t give a shit that a small segment o guys (specifically white, middle class ones) like emaciated women. Your approval is not an honor. I’m not a little white girl whose going to go throw up in the toilet till her heart stops because some guys on the Internet thinks she’s fat.
             Nope, that shit doesn’t work with me.
             Try harder faggot.

          4. I’m not a social justice warrior. I just hate virgins who make sexist websites because they’re angry that no one wants to have sex them. Nothing good comes out of sexually frustrated men who rant on the Internet.

          5. Rodgers Elliott.

          6. You say that but you’re still here and you care enough about it to post.
             I think this is a bone of contention with you, the bisexuality angle is just a convenient deflection for obvious butthurt.
             I don’t really care if you lose weight or what you do with yourself. Just stop coming here as this place isn’t really for you, it’s just annoying to have to read your inane drivel.

          7. Classes himself as a bisexual but uses homophobic insults. Do you hate yourself 50% of the time or what, AC/DC?

          8. You read those sorts of websites? You see, I am a grown man that cares less about a woman attempting to use some sort of “you can’t get laid” emotion-based BS with me. My woman LOVES me for it.
             Your gender studies class told you all about Roosh or this site and now you’re here to score some feminism points.
             You can hate whatever you want to hate, but if you think you’ll succeed in your attempts to shame ME you don’t stand a chance in hell. Move on, little girl and try this on the younger fellows; learn to respect your betters.

          9. She’s a black female I think, jealous of slim white people.

          10. So you’re a fat bull dyke, probably with blue or purple hair of some sort and you’re coming here for attention. Attention whore elsewhere please, opinions from women like you are not really welcome… you’re not our type anyway.

          11. And short, Rodger Elliot, frustrated virgins with weak insults aren’t my type either. Ididn’t come here for attention. I came here because your shitty website keeps tuning up in my search results and since you abrasive faggots keep intruding on what is supposed to be a relaxing experience, I’ll intrude on yours.
              And as fat and dykish as you assume I am, I still get better quality women than you. Ones who don’t drive me to go websites for Losers who keep getting fucked over by women.
              So enjoy your faggy self indulgent cit clear jerk. I have better shit to do, like go outside and interact with people.

          12. Whoops *circle jerk. Auto correct is behaving as shitty as you arem

          13. Your woman loves you because you’re a cuck who will pay for her pointy silicon tits in cash while she bumps ugliest with Tyrone the Janitor.

          14. *Herself.
              A faggot isn’t just a gay person. A faggot is a man who logs on “Return of Kings” so that he can pride himself soely on the fact that he has a penis.

          15. “Inane drivel?” How long were you waiting to pull out your 5th grade vocabulary words? Probably the same amount of time your father spent using your head as a soccer ball.

          16. There’s nothing to be butt hurt about except the fact that grown men really walk around thinking this shit.
              I don’t care if you date thin, athletic or emaciated girls. I just feel bad they have to put up with your inane bullshit.

          17. Talk about having a shitty personality; buy a mirror.

          18. You sound upset? Are you mad? Why do you spell “cock” as “cuck”? It’s not a shortened form of “cuckold”. Do you spell “cunt” as “cont”? Why do you have so much issue with being fat and unattractive?

          19. And it’s a homophobic term that you seem content to keep using. So I guess you must be hating yourself 100% of the time.

          20. Your racism and your bisexuality more or less disqualify you to comment on matters pertaining to all heterosexual males. We suggest you leave now before you really start foaming at the mouth.

          21. Feel better?

          22. A troll isn’t just someone who resorts to ad hominem. A troll is someone that thinks that talking smack on the Internet makes up for their cowardice in real life. How’s that working for you?

          23. http://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Triggered_583c36_5735915.jpg
              You.

          24. Yiiu
              http://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Triggered_583c36_5735915.jpg

          25. 100……
              http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2QwL2JyYWRwaXR0LmJjMmQyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg4NTA-CmUJanBn/47ac6804/968/brad-pitt.jpg

          26. 100!!!!!!!!!!!!
              http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2QwL2JyYWRwaXR0LmJjMmQyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg4NTA-CmUJanBn/47ac6804/968/brad-pitt.jpg

28. https://www.google.co.il/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=dog&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=HpO8VprHJYuH8QeY8aWADA#q=male+greyhound+photo
    none of the above are more “fit” for sexual reproduction than the pizza faced fat boy shown in the article. Yet according to another article, there are plenty of “hot” women who are perfectly happy to use those animals to satisfy their desires. I will bet hard money that pizza faced fat boy could also get every one of the girls that Francis got, in that it’s not Troy Francis looks, intelligence, genius, style, or anything else that necessarily got him sex, but something else that he figured out instinctively.
    My point is not that women have sex with animals. Any woman who does that is the equivalent of an Isis fanatic that tortures captive women to the point of suicide. It’s a feral aspect of the sexuality, something we all have and control.
    I am saying that on the animal level, that is, the level that determines what is and is not fit for fucking, pizza faced fat boy and Troy Francis are no different save for one quality that no one has quite figured out yet.
    I agree with Mr. Francis, but I am saying that lifting, grooming, styling, etc etc are all means by one reaches that quality, which is incidental to the benefits of lifting, grooming and styling, etc.

29. I feel like the above article has been written and re-written a hundred times, but it still bears repeating. Nicely done, and for those reading this for the first time, take it to heart.

    1. Some things are so worth repeating!
       Red pill truths don’t set in overnight, so I always appreciate those who present things like this occasionally. It’s great to have reminders from those with legit experience, too.

30. As a man of short stature myself, I can confirm that height does play a role in how I am perceived. However as a child my father always told me that what myself and him lack in stature we must make up with hard work, determination, and mental agility.
    My father gave me the cold hard truth at a young age. And I have accepted it and adapted. Unlike many parents today who continue to praise their kid even if he was the worst player on the soccer team or reward him for “participation.” Parents these days would rather be friends with their children rather than be firm good parents. They are just setting their kids up for failure.

    1. Golden comment

31. You’re all really masculine, tender souls who are being wronged by people daily. It’s a shame you haven’t figured out how easy it could be for you to blame your shortcomings on women.

    1. Says the guy who (before he discovered us and started trolling the site) religiously follows a sport where crying theatrically and rolling around on the ground after a small push to any part of the body is not only accepted but also gets you literal free kicks.

    2. Yes many of us are very masculine. No one is “wronging ” masculine men daily. That’s a contradiction.
       Your comment is useless fluff.
       I find that less masculine, insecure men are those who make snarky, bitter comments.

32. Troy’s articles have got a lot better than his earlier work.

33. I’m having an easy time of it at the moment. It seems to come in cycles where I don’t need to approach and I just get hit on. It will last for a few months then its back to opening my mouth to multiple women just to get laid. Must be the lynx effect or something, but to be honest it usually correlates with any good shit going on in my life, i.e. low body fat, an attractive lifestyle, at least a little style and just generally being happy. The downside of an easy run is I get out of sync in regards to approaching because I’m out of practice.

34. Enough of these stupid, sophomoric articles. These are serious times. Western Civilization is being lost! I feel like I am on some blog with men who watch movies like “Porkies.” +FD

    1. You can ignore women if you like but not the rest of us. Therefore it has value.

       1. That’s why west is going down. Faggots like you put your hoes before your bros. Patriarchy is impossible when your brother’s name is Judas.

          1. Civilization dies if we stop procreating and teaching our spawn how to be models for thr future instead of pussies who sit in a corner alone or cater to the obvious agenda but dipping our heads in the sand.

          2. You don’t procreate in a vacuum. It’s in the context of a tribe because only a tribe is capable of providing the environment necessary for survival.
             And women instinctively know this because they respect cohesive groups of men (gangs).
             But Western men are deluded faggots who think going it alone, getting ripped (like a homosexuality lol), and pretending to be alpha males (only fooling themselves) will somehow compensate for the pathetic failure of being a loner.
             The above will do you no good when a gang of 15 skinny Pakis wants to pimp out your harlot girlfriend.
             Loneliness breeds cowardice.

          3. 1) I don’t put hoes before bros. I live by “bros before hoes” because I know the nature of women and the value of my friends.
             2) I’m not gay. Calling another guy a “faggot” is pretty weak. That would get you possibly bitch-slapped in real life.
             Not real sure what your malfunction is, there. Most of what you’re writing is a bit of an incoherent rant. You appear to have missed the point.
             Good luck with whatever is going on in your head.

          4. Sure you do, that’s what everyone says. Yet no White gangs in sight, not a single craven White fool who wouldn’t sell his brother out for a fresh piece of pussy. I mean that’s what this site is all about; pussy.
             As opposed to a website on forming white male syndicates. No that’s too racist, and none of you alleged alpha male faggots have the stomach for that.
             I’ll leave you all to your silly alpha male play acting games. You’re only fooling yourself.
             Real strength is found in numbers. Something you pitiful and deluded individualistic faggots have no concept of. Just keep lifting and tell yourself every night what fine alpha males you’ve become. Muslims laugh at you faggots as they help themselves to more of your sister’s pussy.

          5. “Loneliness breeds cowardice.”
             Not necessarly. I once spent three months in a cabin on the Alps, eating trout that I fished and wild boar that I shot. Was one of the hardest most intense summer of my life, I was alone the whole time, didn’t speak to anyone for months. I had a stream with fresh water to drink and fish in and a barbecue for my food, one over and under Benelli and a torch with a lot of batteries. That made me stronger than any group activity could ever do(well apart from army service probably).
             Loneliness can breed strenght of character, self-reliance

35. If you chase women, you’ll be broke and alone. Chase money, you’ll be a rich playboy.

36. wishful thinking. In real life terms, ie i assume most people aren’t hanging out with Ed Sheeran in their social circle, no one beats Looks law. “grooming” is a huge cliche that means nothing. Voice? just lol. women laugh at muscle heads, male looks are 90% above the neck, only gays care about buff bods. and this article admits girls today DGAF about $$ http://www.returnofkings.com/9115/why-money-can-no-longer-save-the-beta-male-2

    1. Are you a dog lover?

37. Every woman’s singular preoccupation and abiding concern was not even mentioned. Any man who has it no matter how short, fat, bald, uncouth, ugly, or stupid can have any woman on earth he wants because his SMV will be in the stratosphere if he has this – Money.

    1. Only Americans and Jews still think like that. Foolish Mammon worshippers.

       1. Particularly Jewish girls, they are as rotten back-stabbing snakes as they come

    2. Money is important…as a beta trait.
       Alphas get fucked for the quality of their genes.
       If they have money on top of that the sky is the limit. Think arnold schwarzenegger.
       If a beta has nothing his hand is his only gl.
       If a beta has some cubicle job he may get some worn out 30something pussy after she gave up finding something better and is out of time. She will hate herself later for having settled with such a low quality mate and torture him for it.
       If a beta has some fame and money he may get a trophy wife. She will have one child with him (maybe it has his genes, maybe not) and sometimes let him fuck her for 5 minutes. After their devorce she will go back hunting alpha dick with all his money to back her up. Maybe she can get an alpha without (!) money this way and have a few quality kids too!

38. I guess it’s a good thing I’m actually attracted to girls who are a little thicker than avg.

    1. ^coping

39. Just a bunch of sad dudes that can’t get laid…

    1. Just the usual shaming post from yet another feminist sock puppet troll. Do these children ever figure out that juvenile “can’t get laid”, “mom’s basement”, blah, blah, blah, insults don’t work? Probably not. That’s why they are cowardly trolls.
       update: Looks like “Soul Saver” bit off more GEezus than he could chew. The loser is running scared now.

       1. Rape doesn’t count as getting laid, by the way.

          1. Never said or implied that it did, troll. Oh, and by the way, ad hominem doesn’t count as a legitimate refutation.
             Most trolls are cowards that talk big Online, but would be afraid to say a word in real life.

          2. I thought you were going after trolls like me?
             Are you afraid?
             LOL

          3. Let’s meet up then. Not joking or trolling. What’s your location?

          4. And please don’t be a little bitch and back out of this calm discussion I wish to have with you.
             Fun fact for you though: all because someone can see you’re a piece of shit and tells you about it, doesn’t mean they’re trolling. Trolling is when someone says things just to be argumentative. I’m merely voicing my opinion that this is a little boys group consisting of members that can’t get laid.

          5. Additionally, along with calling people a troll, you also mention ad hominem in almost every comment. I take it that you just learned this phrase and are trying it out, but your use of it is as impressive as you generally are. Haha So change the record, argue with arguments specific to well you’re attempting to attack, and lemme know your location so we can chat.

          6. Ah… just a reminder, calling people out for a “meeting” constitutes cyberbullying. The authorities take a dim view on this type of threat.

          7. People get labelled as trolls, and, ad hominem get called out as such…. because that is what is observed. Nice try at thinking it’s just in the eye of the beholder, “troll”. Your first post here is ad hominem and your join-date is around the same as couple of other “soul saver” sock puppets. Post your location if are so brave.

          8. You aren’t wanting a “calm discussion” since you could easily have one here, but choose not to with your baiting.
             Fun fact for you: Your trolling shows that you get bullied a lot in real life. Trolling is usually in the form of ad hominem or being speciously contrary. That usually is followed up by threats. Passive aggressive threats usually means lots-o-talk and no action.

          9. Sure. 12312 Culver Blvd. Los Angeles. Ask for Wiesemann.

          10. Not trolling and wasn’t bullied. Bullied guys join these little boys clubs. Haha That’s okay. You’ll see soon enough.

          11. Go for it.

          12. Wilkes Barre, PA 18702

          13. That’s probably where you’ll go out of fear for a simple discussion. So sad…

          14. ROTFL. Sez the guy who apparently lives at a *zip code*. You’re just a bully, and you got called on it. Funny how you show up in support of that other clown.

          15. Come to my city, contact me on here when you do, then we’ll see who is getting called out.

          16. yyyyawn….

          17. Anudder Internet Tuff guy! Lol.

       2. I thought you were on my six?
          Just sniffing at my arse more like it.

40. Who cares about “game”? Ridiculous!

41. Amazing article,
    I am a younger guy, and I cannot emphasize the lifting part, I lost weight and become muscular, gave me enormous confidence, and women paid far more attention to me, it is worth the time and effort for sure, and with my limited knowledge of game, picking up women has become a lot easier, going to keep improving.
    Thanks for the content!

    1. Good. GOOD!
       Now learn how to fight. It will bring your game to the next level.

       1. I’ve always been a fan of boxing, will definitely look to get into some style of fighting soon, I dont see how it would improve my game tho.

          1. Self confidence is power.

42. I appreciate this article, but could we not think of ourselves as SMV… We have a value much higher than a number. Seriously… Ur not a product.. INternalize this too.. Say this out loud.. I have Sexual Market Value… SOunds Fucked? Obviously… U have a value as a person, not some fucking dildo on the market. CAPISCE? Get this capitalistic consumer abbreviation out of your fucking heads.

43. This is not fucking World of warcraft.. SMV. PUA. AWALT. DO u know how fucking lame this shit sounds? Lol.

44. approach as many targets as possible to improve your odds in the game.” So fucking toxic community… TARGETS Not women Targets.. U fucking sociopath.

45. Eh asshole I WIll rape and pillage every single playing pile of shit like you. Mark my fucking words. If you treat women this way, they will act like this. That is how they are. Fucking toxic. If u treat women like this, every single daughter or sister you have will be this way. Fuck PUA. I dont need this bullshit.

46. be a man not a fucking pimp. Pua lizard, chamelion psychotics. Poor excuse for men. If it was 1900 I would chop your head off witha fucking Katana.

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