194 thoughts on “7 Ways The Collapse May Unfold”

1. ‘Technically not a collapse, but it might as well be. If the globalists win, we will be their helpless subjects like chickens in factory farms. Cultures and nations around the world will be destroyed and processed into one under the new global order, with each human being functioning as a drone to serve the elites.’
   Some conspiracy nuts madly claim that this is already the case. But I am no mad conspiracy nut of course.

2. Also want to point out that unlike in most movies, such a collapse is unlikely to be global. If a country goes to shit, you can always go to another. If they want you.

   1. But the world is far more interconnected than it has ever been. And let’s be honest, the west is basically propping everyone else up, including China and Russia. If the west collapses, shit is going to go down very hard and very fast.

3. Do not give up yet – resist and fight to prevent the collapse and right the ship. I realize that this is an uphill battle, almost like scaling a vertical cliff face at this point, but men should never give up the civilization that their blood, sweat, and toil built.
   That said, the collapse may still be inevitable. If that is the case, as terrible as it may be, embrace it and do not fear it. The collapse also presents an opportunity to right the ship, albeit in a much uglier way.

4. Gradual decline is most likely. The days of Scipio laying waste to Carthage are over.
   I think it’s more likely the US will decline the way the British Empire did: a series of diplomatic blunders (hello, Suez Crisis!) along with a receding of US military bases abroad.
   If we can’t save the American Empire, it will probably recede over the next 50 years.
   We can stop it by avoiding war with Russia, strengthening the family unit at home, and practicing Peace Through Strength to maintain a balance of power against Russia and China.
   Winning a sea war against China would be beneficial, to prevent Chinese control of the South China Sea. The US Navy will beat the Chinese Navy, hands down. But we need a skilled statesman to make sure the war is limited to sea power and restricts Chinese allies, while ensuring that the Royal Navy and all Commonwealth navies are on our side.
   I don’t see any Presidential candidate that can do a foreign policy field goal like that in the running. But maybe a skilled Secretry of State could do it.

   1. Why do you see the American Empire as a positive? I’m of the opinion that the US should close down most of their overseas military bases and stop meddling everywhere.
      Governments are incredibly ineffective in every single thing they do, and usually end of getting the opposite of what they try to achieve while pissing away enormous amounts of resources that could be much better spent by those who actually create them.

      1. I support an American Empire that is closer to the British Empire from Waterloo to the Great War.
         -A domestic society based on strong families and patriarchy.
         -Strong leadership from Parliament (although chaotic at times) coupled with the steady hand of a monarchy.
         -An overseas Empire that fills the coffers of the American people.
         -Status as a great power, protected by the strongest Navy in the world that makes domestic invasion an impossibility.
         -Strong institutions (such as the British Army, Royal Navy, British Historical Society, Missionaries) that hold society together.
         -A strong pursuit of philosophy, art, science and history by genuinely intellectually curious individuals, not the left-wing propaganda hacks of today who churn out studies to support their left-wing ideologies.
         -An actual company (like the East India Company) that manages our greatest overseas holdings like a business, rather than an ideology-spreading government.
         A nation should not hesitate to meddle in the world…when there is clear benefit for that nation. I supported the Iraq War (and even fought in it) on the grounds that Saddam Hussein was evil and that we would pay for the war using oil revenues once the country was secure.
         Right now, we have the strength (military and economic) with none of the underlying values (strong family, intellectual curiosity, religion). In tandem, these strengths created the greatest Empire in the history of man. Only when the Bertrand Russel’s, Oscar Wilde’s and suffragists got their hooks into British Culture did the slow decline begin, culminating in incompetent leadership during the Suez Crisis.
         The British Empire might have had a great revival if the Suez Crisis hadn’t been botched and we’d built upon Thatcher’s efforts in the 1980s. America can still be saved if we avoid a Suez Crisis and elect a strong Teddy Roosevelt/Reagan/Churchill/Thatcher/Disraeli-like President. While I am voting for him, Trump is like the “diet coke” of leaders such as these: he lacks a battle record like Roosevelt and Churchill, doesn’t have the intellectual strength or curiosity of Thatcher, Disraeli or Churchill, and lacks the strong spiritual morality of Reagan and Thatcher.
         RoK is important in these efforts as it strives to strengthen the patriarchy, take on logically absurd positions (such as BLM, “affirmative consent” and SJW’s in general, whose beliefs are based on absurd logic).
         An American Empire would be immensely positive, but not in the state it is today. It’s more like the late Roman Empire now: cultural degeneracy runs rampant (sex with boys, as the Romans did), it’s institutions are corrupt (like the Praetorian Guard became) and economically unsound (our debt is high, and the Roman Empire couldn’t sustain itself without new conquests).

         1. “-An overseas Empire that fills the coffers of the American people.”
            Well, you do realize that no one would or should support this kind of bullshit other than some American neocon chicken hawk, right?
            An American empire being positive? Only for US based fat cats, which to me makes your whole idea absolutely revolting and contemptible.
            That shit is Literally Hitler.

         2. Since this evidently isn’t going to be a real discussion…
            “Well, you do realize that no one would or should support this kind of bullshit other than some American neocon chicken hawk, right?”
            Do you have any evidence or coherent arguments that increasing the wealth of the American People is bad?
            “An American empire being positive? Only for US based fat cats, which to me makes you whole idea absolutely revolting and contemptible. ”
            Did you drive a car in the past week?
            “That shit is Literally Hitler.”
            And thus brings the SJW intellectual deadening of discussion and recourse in America. The SJW’s thank you, you are part of the problem.

         3. The ideas you posit above have nothing to do with the American empire of the past or present.
            Patriarchy? When has America supported patriarchy? The entire founding of the nation was a shunning of the monarch model which is firmly rooted in patriarchy and religion.
            Strong institutions which held society together–which American institutions do you speak of?
            A company that manages overseas holdings–sorry but under the American capitalist model this would end up being something like Blackwater.
            An empire that fills the coffers of Americans–now we are getting to truth and real motivations here. Pillage the foreign assets so that we may steal them and profit at the expense of others.
            A strong pursuit of philosophy, art, science and history by genuinely intellectually curious individuals
            … LOL Sorry I can’t even respond to this one seriously. Perhaps America had some of those types in the 1700s, but those were the men who were raised in European monarchies and schools who had the bravery and strength to form the US.
            It sounds more like you are an American and wish to benefit from America being the HNIC instead of looking at it objectively the other way round and seeing that an American empire would be good in any way for anyone other than those running it (and it would be good for North Korean leaders if North Korea ran the world so this isn’t saying anything). Your post has nothing to do with America. Anyone anywhere in the world could make the same post verbatim and just insert (((nation))) as the one running things and it would be equally valid.
            If I took the above argument seriously, I would post a full refutation of why the American empire is implicitly a *bad* thing for the world because it would be spreading bad ideas such as feminism, unrestrained freedom, ignorance, value of profit above all, and shunning of intellectualism. An American empire would bring the same worries this article talks about to every nation on the planet.

         4. Do you have any evidence or coherent arguments that increasing the wealth of the American People is bad?
            That’s the silliest argument of all. Whichever nation runs a worldwide empire is going to profit from it. That is not a positive argument for empire.
            If Israel ran a global empire, Jews would be more wealthy. Which is good for Jews so they should do it. That is the argument you are making.
            What’s so special about the American people anyway, that they should be the ones benefitting from this wealth? The reason so many of us here shun the culture and travel abroad in search of decent women is because we have low respect for our fellow Muricans, and I say that sadly as one myself. Giving the degenerate people here more money is not going to make them better; if anything the opposite.

         5. My argument is simple. I don’t think any country should be usurping the resources that don’t belong to it, nor impose its will or control on any other nation or their people. My argument would be the same if you substituted the US in your idea for any other country. It’s immoral and I find it bizarre that you do not understand this on your own.
            The wealth of any people is not bad unless it’s at the cost of others, in which case it’s immoral and bad regardless of which country it is.
            No, I haven’t driven a car in at least a year, and last time I did so was driving a car made in Japan on a Japanese road, what’s that got to do with this?
            You obviously have no sense of humor or understanding of what my purpose for using that Literally Hitler comment, I guess it’s above your head.

         6. Worrying about other nations is for the Globalists. I care what is best for America (and a close second, Great Britain). If the Jews manage to create a global empire for their own benefit, then they are doing what they should be doing: maximizing things for their own tribe.
            I want America to benefit because America is my “tribe”, so to speak. This, of course, is balanced by a certain degree of morality, as often misquoted:
            “My country, in her intercourse with other nations may she always be in the right. But right or wrong, my country.”
            This means that we will gain economic benefit not by pillage or stealing, but through commerce.
            Most importantly, I want to do what is going to gain America the most benefit in the most ethical way (not simply stabbing someone and taking their stuff, or things close to that).

         7. This is spot on. Fitz seems intelligent but his argument reeks of wishful thinking.
            It is incredibly naive to look at what constitutes our “American empire” today and equate the gain of profit through conflict, drug smuggling and corporate takeover of natural resources as something which is also making the American people richer.
            It’s not. It enriches the elite money power so they can print more fiat money, legislate more controls against the middle class and continue to pervert and corrupt an already degenerate untermenschen populace.

         8. America is in no way a “tribe” but a conglomeration of differing and often opposing racial/ethnic groups. You might argue it was different in the past but that matters not at all in the current time where the jolting and obvious reality is that the country will inevitably continue its decline.
            Are you a baby boomer?
            You seem to have the optimism and nostalgia of those types. Still clinging to your fairy tales and still thinking the country itself is inherently good in its trajectory.
            We have had our manifest destiny and now we are in the cannibalizing ourselves stage.
            The country itself is founded on values which have been the seeds of our destruction all along.
            The hideous ghoul called equality and the wretched whore lady liberty welcomes every alien to come and feast on our rotting flesh.
            You need to come back to reality partner.

         9. Once again, Globalists are interested in how things might benefit other countries. Personally, I prefer a hybrid approach: one that balances the pursuit of happiness and the interests of colonial holdings. For example, in India, the Empire raised it from a nation of savage thieves who murdered each others populations in tribal feuds lasting centuries into something significantly more civilized. All the while, being the “crown jewel” of the Empire in terms of wealth production.
            “Patriarchy? When has America supported patriarchy? The entire founding of the nation was a shunning of the monarch model which is firmly rooted in patriarchy and religion.”
            Since the Founding Fathers were all men, and further generally restricted the right to vote to those with stake (at the time, landowners).
            “… LOL Sorry I can’t even respond to this one seriously. Perhaps America had some of those types in the 1700s, but those were the men who were raised in European monarchies and schools who had the bravery and strength to form the US.”
            How many inventions did America produce from 1800-1950? A lot. Stephen Hawking? American. Albert Einstein? American immigrant from Germany. Ayn Rand? American immigrant from Russia. Milton Friedman? American.
            “If I took the above argument seriously, I would post a full refutation of why the American empire is implicitly a *bad* thing for the world because it would be spreading bad ideas such as feminism, unrestrained freedom, ignorance, value of profit above all, and shunning of intellectualism. ”
            The only reason an American Empire might spread these toxic ideologies is because we have been infected by left-wing thinking domestically. By culturally pushing America to the right, we eliminate this.
            “It sounds more like you are an American and wish to benefit from America being the HNIC…”
            Yeah. I want America to benefit, first and foremost. The only people I see not putting America first and foremost are the Globalists. The rest of the world is a consideration, but secondary to the success and prosperity of America, and a close second, Great Britain.

         10. “My argument is simple. I don’t think any country should be usurping the resources that don’t belong to it, nor impose its will or control on any other nation or their people. My argument would be the same if you substituted the US in your idea for any other country. It’s immoral and I find it bizarre that you do not understand this on your own. ”
             You are missing the point, and probably don’t understand how capitalism works: economic expansion is not a zero-sum game. The basis for your argument is that for America to prosper, it has to take from others such that they have less.
             In capitalism, wealth is created that is greater than the sum of its parts. Other nations don’t lose, unless “crony” capitalism is practiced (which isn’t true capitalism, as there are too many economic rent-seekers).
             “No, I haven’t driven a car in at least a year, and last time I did so was driving a car made in Japan on a Japanese road, what’s that got to do with this?”
             If you’ve even ridden in a car, or used electricity, you are benefit from oil, and the institutions and manipulations of that product. Oil is the most important resource on the planet, at the moment. And the nation that can gain control of the oil will have the most prosperity.

         11. Thank you for illustrating one of the most culturally detrimental aspects of America today: the fact that Americans do not view themselves as a homogeneous group: they are “African American” or we talk about the “Black Community” or whatever hyphenated-American we feel like.
             The problem isn’t America’s founding values. The problem is the perversion of those values over the past 150 years. The Founding Fathers had fundamentally different ideas on who should be voting, who has a stake in the nation, and what a strong culture is.
             Some RoK members have detached themselves from reality and embraced toxic cynicism: Yeah, things are bad in America. But we are turning that around at RoK. Even the existence of a group like RoK is good, as ideas like Patriarchy and Nationalism are ideas that haven’t been seriously discussed to a wide audience for several years.

         12. Yet this was by design. Cultural Marxism, class warfare which I’m sure you know of.
             The country was the most homogeneous when it was 95% white. Even then there were still many conflicts among the differing Anglo/Mediterranean groups.
             I think assimilation was achieved by these groups due to their racial makeup and even so it took many years
             With such differing groups now it will never be possible to have a homogenous country.
             The best one can do is to gather his own family/tribe of loyal friends and look to form your own strongholds off the beaten path. This is the future if we are to survive.
             I don’t consider myself a cynic. I try to be as pragmatic as possible.

         13. This is why I heavily alluded in an earlier post that the American Empire would only be good if certain cultural changes were made domestically. First and foremost being the destruction of the SJW/self-flagellation mentality: we are not all equal. We never were. Stephen Hawking is objectively more intelligent than your average special-ed student. And that special-ed student is objectively more healthy that Stephen Hawking (probably).
             The idea that “all men are created equal” has been perverted into “all men are created equal.” And the idea that “all men are created equal” doesn’t even mean today what it meant in 1776: the objection the Founding Fathers had was to the fact that being born to the aristocracy meant that that individual was considered inherently “better” than those not. It had nothing to do with individual abilities, or people being “equal” in the sense that SJW’s think of it today.
             All the Founding Fathers were trying to do was remove the restriction that only aristocrats could hold certain positions. SJW’s want to push unqualified people into certain positions in the name of “equality.”

         14. You are lacking reading comprehension quite badly. YOU are the one promoting the idea that Americans should control resources that do not belong to them to prosper, not me, and you conveniently left out the part where I said: “The wealth of any people is not bad unless it’s at the cost of others, in which case it’s immoral and bad regardless of which country it is.”
             I would like for everyone to prosper so long as it’s not stemming from illegal, immoral or unethical actions. It seems that you fail to understand the basic right of self determination of nations.
             For your information the electricity in the country where I live now, as well as the ones where I have lived prior do is not and was not produced using oil, it’s gas, hydro and wind, and nuclear to varying degree.
             Cars use oil yes, but this still has nothing to do with the topic. America has plenty of its own oil to use, and can and does simply buy it from other countries who willingly sell it to them. None of the oil I have ever used has come from any source other than voluntary sales by producers.
             No nation should control any other nations oil production, how would you like it if the Russians invaded and took control of the US oil production?
             All nations and their respective people have a full right to control and do as they wish with any resources within their national borders.
             And for the record I’m quite certain that my understanding of capitalism far exceeds yours, since you seem to fail to grasp that it’s based on voluntary win win interactions, not controlling others or their resources or means of production, or coercion.

         15. Since those men were addressing problems of their own time then you have to rationally assess the need for a new system. Based on that premise we need a new constitution, bill of rights and a new everything that makes America…America.

         16. The Italians and others did manage to integrate very well over the past 50 years. But the biggest success story is the Asians (of which I am part): Asians were thought of as dumb railway workers in the early 1900s, but by 1968, they were out-performing whites in education, income and not being criminals. This is largely due to the fact that Asian cultures place high value on the family (a key a strong society) and integrated well.
             The groups that have difficulty are the blacks and the latinos, for whatever reason. Even the Muslims were ‘okay’ (Bush won the Muslim vote in 2000, *while he was campaigning on a platform of less interventionism, not more*) until the leftist ideologies got their hooks into them and started telling them they were victims.
             Pragmatically, the return path to greatness is a slow but steady one: gradually regain control of America’s institutions (mostly financially) and shift the cultural narrative. The left figured this out in the late 1960s, and has largely succeeded over the past 50 years.
             It is something that many of us will not see, or reap the benefits of until we are very old men (or dead). However, it is worth it, but only those with much patience and the willingness to endure so that future generations may benefit from the Patriarchy will likely have the fortitude to see through.

         17. Well, America is certainly fucking other nations; that much we can agree on.

         18. We really don’t need a new system, we just have to adhere to the system created before. We need a few “patches” to the current system to deal with issues of our day:
             -Internet privacy, and the invasion thereof by the NSA
             -SJW’s, progressives and their anti-intellectual beliefs
             -New advances in technology that change life as we know it.
             We need to retain the values of free speech, individual responsibility for one’s own destiny and the like. However, instead of King George and Lord North (one of the worst PM’s in history), the threats are different:
             -The MSM and its censorship are the new King George.
             -Lord North has been replaced by George Soros
             -The tyranny of taxation without representation has been replaced with the tyranny of cultural marxism.

         19. It has nothing to do with “Hitler.” What a fool you are.

         20. We usually agree on more, but this seems to be a very controversial topic (within RoK).
             I believe we need to acknowledge the moral difference between deliberately fucking other nations (ie: punching them and taking their stuff) and what is naturally an occurrence of legitimate commerce/practices (hypothetically setting up an oil company in Iraq, hiring locals to work the wells/processing faculties).
             The former is obviously amoral and wrong, but the second is not. While all the consequences may not be 100% positive for the local population, *over* worrying about unintentional consequences stinks of a policy that is destroying us today:
             The concept of disparate impact.
             Disparate impact is a business rule that basically says, “It doesn’t matter if you didn’t *intentionally* try to harm blacks through hiring practices or policies, the only thing that matters is that only 20% of black applicants got the job as opposed to 80% of white applicants.”
             This has caused our culture today to be more worried about “disparate impact” than perhaps the root cause that black culture has been dominated by lazy Matriarchy and its men have been cucked into being less qualified for good paying jobs by way of education or even professionalism (“hood” values don’t pass muster in an interview).

         21. What a boring humorless twat you are.

         22. Wishful thinking, and to borrow a leftist word, ethnocentrism. Self justification of one’s own culture that cannot be objectively reasonable. Full of logical fallacies, especially the No True Scotsman. “But the neocons and feminists and SJWs and crony capitalists and military industrial complex and Bushes and Clintons are not the REAL Americans… the real Americans are the 2% minority who see through all the BS.”
             Yeah. I’m sure there are some guys in ISIS right now saying the same thing about their proposed nation-state. “An ISIS state would be good, we just need to get rid of those in charge who are violently conquering, bombing civilians, ripping out hearts, and slitting throats.” When to any unbiased outsider it’s crystal clear that it’s a completely degenerate organization.

         23. I’ve known several very intelligent, hard working Asians. I would tend to agree that many southeast Asians assimilated/can assimilate to the “American Dream”.
             But don’t you have pride in your ethnic heritage, your people, your past?
             The American way of life is now just empty materialism and consumption based soul destruction.
             This we export across the globe. I don’t share the same sentiments that it’s such a great thing. As a whole we are dumb, fickle, selfish, arrogant, degenerate and indifferent to the glaring alarm bells going off all around us.
             I don’t want those types of people near me. I don’t want an atomized consumerist driven lifestyle that is poison to a man’s spirit. I don’t want to be around women who think we are eeeeeeccckwalll and have the economic and political power to disenfranchise me.

         24. If something is amoral, it can’t therefore be “wrong”.
             Right and wrong are constructs of control. We idealistically postulate our notions of morality and believe everyone else thinks(or at least should think) the same way.
             I have found that the most vociferous calls to morality are simply the ploys of the most deceptive and cunning(not saying this in regards to you).
             What individuals, tribes, and countries want is power. That is a zero sum game and power itself is amoral.

         25. You have absolutely no idea what the meme references. Perhaps educating yourself first before coming in as a White Knight for your precious Fuhrer would benefit you.

         26. This is true. My family is Italian immigrants (5 generations ago) and when they got here the goals were, in this order, 1) Assimilate 2) save money and buy some property 3) have many children and educate them well. This went generation to generation until other than being RCC, a few Roman facial features and a big feast on Christmas eve you couldn’t tell my family wasn’t a norman Rockwell painting. That immigrant mentality is so excellent and productive.

         27. (((white))) Knight

         28. At the micro level it strikes as crass regionalism. “Oklahoma should be the head of government and Oklahoma should rule over all the other 50 states because I live here.” There’s clearly no other rationale than geographic proximity. But the fundamental problem goes much deeper.
             My main disagreement is that I don’t see American values as anything grand or morally superior or magnanimous that should be spread around the globe. In fact, it is the exact opposite.
             Further, I find the America-worship that foreigners do a huge turnoff. When I talk to girls from the Phillipines who know more American pop culture than I do, I tell them they should really ignore that shit and go put on a traditional dress.
             If Beyoncé and Miley Cyrus were truly world class musicians in the sense of Bach or Mozart, and American philosophy was creating positive rules to live by, instead of inventing new pronouns and promoting censorship, then sure, one could make an argument that we are living in a truly superior culture and the world would benefit if we spread it. But we are talking about promoting Idiocracy over traditionalism.

         29. “An actual company (like the East India Company) that manages our greatest overseas holdings like a business, rather than an ideology-spreading government.” Just want to inquirer, why do you support this structure than than say, a Protectorate, Satellite/Puppet state, “Mandate”, or “territory” (e.g. such as the old territories used by the US in the 19th century)?

         30. Hitler managed to get popular support in almost every country Germany either invaded, annexed, or worked with. This shit is LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER!

         31. “Do you have any evidence or coherent arguments that increasing the wealth of the American People is bad?” Do you have evidence that colonialism actually increases the wealth of the proletariat?
             “Did you drive a car in the past week?” Being that the US now has a petroleum production surplus, this isn’t even relevant.

         32. “In capitalism, wealth is created that is greater than the sum of its parts. Other nations don’t lose, unless “crony” capitalism is practiced (which isn’t true capitalism, as there are too many economic rent-seekers).” The what even is your argument? Why would couldn’t free trade suffice? Why do we need to force these other countries to trade with America, and America alone?
             “or used electricity, you are benefit from oil” Petroleum isn’t used to produce electricity.

         33. “-The MSM and its censorship are the new King George.” Wait a minute, didn’t you just say you supported British Colonialism? Wtf, why would you suddenly start disliking it? By the way, King George wasn’t pulling any strings in the American Colonies, it was Parliament at that point.
             “-Lord North has been replaced by George Soros” Lord North had an actual political office.

         34. “This means that we will gain economic benefit not by pillage or stealing, but through commerce.” Then… That isn’t colonialism.

         35. Everything is connected… “even the existence of a group like RoK is good” . The fact that this subculture, dare I say counter culture, exists here at RoK is a positive sign. This website is a huge relief, ‘I am not the only one noticing all this bullshit! Aha!’

         36. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c93f3b92861bf98007ff0b958f932ae010ba0a51284571842f2e11257fd8415.jpg

         37. fitzroy seems like a troll/disinfo guy honestly

         38. “…coming in as a White Knight for your precious Fuhrer…” Literally LMAO. What the hell is wrong with all of these Adolfites? The guy was a complete failure. Thousand-year Reich? Lasted 12 years if memory serves.

         39. An American ‘Empire’ is a Zionist serving ‘Empire’. Fitzroy and his ilk will bedazzle us with all kinds of bullshit rationalization.

         40. “If Israel ran a global empire, Jews would be more wealthy. Which is good for Jews so they should do it. That is the argument you are making.”
             Imagine the wicked beauty of running a global empire through proxy nations plundering the world of its wealth and crippling its people mentally, physically, spiritually and economically and placing the guilt of the crimes they commit to the citizens of the puppet countries that carried out its evil bidding.

         41. I can do that pretty easily.

   2. Anybody know a country where you can buy guns other than the USA and Switzerland ?.(nobody can emigrate there, sadly) Relatively free place to buy guns, and where I can do bank tranfers and collect my social security check. (while I teach English)..
      I used to speak Russian ok, but I could not retire in Russia. I could pick it up again if I had to. With my retirement (in a few years), I could not do bank transfers to Russia. Plus, private property and guns are not allowed, I believe. I loved France in the 80’s, but it is hard to get guns there. Still, a farm in Lozere or Ardache could be nice. Rural life is what I want, away from it all.
      My Spanish pretty good, fluent in French and Japanese. But any ccountry I live in has to allow people to by guns. Which means, even with all its problems, USA still seems like the best bet.
      USA sucks in a way but everyhwhere else sucks so much more. Maybe I should be looking at good red states in this country rather than abroad. I live in a good state, North Carolina. But I am afraid that Hillary’s SCOTUS could ruin the good things I have here.
      Guess we just have to elect Trump.

      1. Most countries allow private ownership of firearms for hunting and sports, but not for self defense. I live in Western Europe and could get a gun if I was a member of a shooting club, even an AR or handgun, or a bolt rifle and shotgun if I was an active member of a hunting club.
         The thing is most do require you to pass a background check which would require you to have resided legally in the country for some years on top of not being found guilty of criminal offenses.
         Several countries do however require proof of continuing active participation in whatever you have the guns for, lack thereof would incur loosing the right to own the gun(s) you have for the purpose you no longer participate in.

      2. Yes you can immigrate to Switzerland. Almost 20% of the country has immigrant background. That is one of the highest rates in the Western World.
         “Plus, private property and guns are not allowed, I believe.” Umm, wut? Where are you getting this info from? Russia definitely has private property, as far as I know, the only country that doesn’t have private property is Hong Kong, and this has more to do with the need to fairly allocate a very very finite resource among a huge (and growing) population and huge (and growing) corporate sector rather than government control. Guns are also allowed in Russia, just not handguns. If you want the most lax gun laws you will every possibly get, then Pakistan is your choice. Then again, it has its own problems. If you don’t care what kind of gun you are gonna have, pretty much anywhere in the developed world except Japan and South Korea allows some form of private gun ownership.

   3. The UK could have easily maintained its empire, they just choose not to. Anyways, its not like that decline actually hurt the people in the UK, they are still very wealthy and wealth has only gone up since the 40’s.
      “Royal Navy and all Commonwealth navies are on our side.” What significance does the Royal Navy have and where has that influence been for the past 40-30 years? The French, Indian, and Japanese are all larger and would be much more useful in a naval war against China.

5. The cultural collapse is happening right before our eyes. Music and art are dead, movies and other modern media have been turned into liberal propaganda mills, and straight men who aren’t willing to relegate themselves to simpering beta providers, wage slaves and cucks (see Paul from the last two episodes of ‘You’re the Worst’ for a good example of this) are public enemy number one.
   A race war involving blacks is highly unlikely because blacks as a whole are pretty much economically and socially powerless. In fact, they’re the most powerless people in the world right now, with no concrete sense of direction other than what the democrats or some other demagogue lays out for them. Most of the time, they’re either wasting away in some low income housing project or at some piddling minimum wage job. Most of what you see them doing is chanting and marching, nearly all of the violence they’re involved in doesn’t go beyond their own doorsteps, and even the occasional rioting and looting never goes beyond their own communities. Muslims, on the other hand, have their own culture, their own community, and strong socio-economic resources to fall back on. If they themselves don’t have wealth or social clout, they’re usually connected to someone who is, and they have a country to back them up or to go back to. That makes them more of a potential threat. The LGBT? Same thing. Look at how powerful the ACLU has become. And many of your leading CEOs are gay nowadays (Apple, anyone)? They’re not just holding parades and giving speeches; they’re changing socio-economic policies all around the world (which is why gay marriage is spreading on a global scale).
   Another world war is possible, but it’s probably many decades down the road. It’s more profitable just to turn people into mindless consumers than it is to kill them, at least in the west. If there is another war, it’s going to be between consumer-based nations like those in the West and those where consumerism is of little importance compared to other virtues (as it is in, say, the Middle East, Russia, or China).

   1. Agree with it all except WW3 decades away. Thinking of Hillary’s no fly zone in Syria.
      Interesting vid. Putin thinks like a chess player.

6. Environmental collapse will not happen. The Earth is pretty efficient at renewing itself and maintaining equilibrium. A single volcano spews more “green house gases” into the air than entire cities. True changes, like the percentage of oxygen in the lower atmosphere, take place over eons. Lesser changes, like the oscillation between warming periods and ice ages are the result of polar shift and solar activity. The Earth will end one day, of course. But our modest yellow star is a long way from going nova.
   http://manningthewall.com
   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUDY17Xg_Ix5kaenkryh63g
   Tweets by manningthewall

   1. That depends on what you mean by environmental collapse. Will the planet turn into a smoldering brown desert? No. But could it become uninhabitable for humans, forcing their extinction? Sure. But life and the world will continue, with or without man, that much is certain.

      1. Sometimes I think the whole global warming debate is set up purposely to discredit meaningful discussions around conversation with all modern environmentalists being frauds and/or fags. Teddy Roosevelt was a conservationist and we owe our national parks to him more than any other US historical figure. Not exactly a feminine personality. Glad that Trump is stating commitment to clean air and clean water. And his sons being avid hunters I think will help ensure the US does right.

         1. The whole global warming debate is set up to redistribute wealth from the West to 3rd world countries through carbon taxation.

         2. With everything the elites push, a nefarious purpose is a given.

         3. Also a way for the elite to make money trading carbon credits. The Chicago Climate Exchange was supposed to be a big deal, it folded.

         4. Yes it was, and certain parties are VERY disappointed the scheme isn’t panning out. There is climate change & we have historical validation. There was an antique & medieval ‘climate optimum’. For instance there are records still extant of the wine production in 12th & 13th century vineyards in Scotland. One could not have a vineyard there today. This would be evidence for the Medieval climate optimum. Also, part of the reason for the fall of Rome is that in the winter of 403 the Rhine river froze solid & the Germanic tribes came right across with their families & herds. Prior to that winter the Legions needed only post sentries at the fords to secure that border. This was the end of the Antique climate optimum. In short, we’ve never known a climate stasis lasting more than 5 or 6 generations, there’s a cycle that’s independent of our activities. Warmer is better, by the way, & CO2 is plant food.

         5. Those were localized European events not in other continents.

      2. I saw an interesting article a few years ago on how by most measures, the US was far better off environmentally than we have been almost since our founding. It was tied to similar observations about most modernized nations. The gist of it was that while countries modernize, they go through a period where the environment really suffers, but then once they are modernized and can afford to care about the environment again, they do and the environment ends up much cleaner than it was before. For example, 50 years ago, the Cuyahoga River was so polluted that it caught fire. Today, there is pollution, but within EPA standards, and the only real issues are not related to water quality, but to things like ability of fish to pass man made barriers.
         Now, whether China and India’s modernization is enough to turn us into a smoldering brown desert – who knows? But there is no need to automatically assume that Chinese and Indians don’t want clean water any more than we do.

         1. I would be interested in reading that article. I’m a big outdoorsman, so when someone says the environment I typically think of fresh air and clean water. The water cannot be safely drunk in the vast majority of America, instead requiring chemical treatment plants to cleanse and chlorinate it first (don’t forget the added fluoride just for shits and grins). The air where I live is of particularly poor quality due to coal burning factories nearby. There are a lot of respiratory problems and I hear of people dying of lung cancer and stuff like that.
            I’ve been in parts of Canada and Montana where you can drink water right out of the lake and it’s perfectly fine. That is, of course, how humans lived for centuries. I’m not sure I can ‘taste’ bad air quality but I can certainly smell/feel rural mountain air and its cleanliness.
            I think the US has a fairly good environmental protection plan, but I don’t see how it could be better today than it was in the 1700s. That just doesn’t make sense.

         2. I’ll see if I can dig it up. Busy at work today, so may take me a while.

         3. This is not the exact article I was thinking of (couldn’t find it, but it linked to various studies – may have been on a site like Junkscience.com), but it does state the same basic premise. The concept is the Environmental Kuznet Curve.

         4. Why the US did have pretty polluted rivers, its interesting to note that the Cuyahoga actually was due to naturally occurring hydrocarbons in the water. Still probably good that it caught fire, certainly got the public to fight pollution in other places.

         5. Skeptical about water poisoning by some elite branch, so where’s the elites drinking water filtered at, name me a filtering plant.

         6. It is no longer safe to drink water from lakes, rivers, and streams in the vast majority of the US. Even in rural areas where I live. Therefore chemical treatment is *needed* in order for us to safely drink water. That said, I remove the fluoride, which has nothing to do with water purity, but supposedly is just to rinse over your teeth to prevent cavities, and I can assure you the elites don’t drink that poison either.

      3. The tardigrade will survive. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d6b5f0bbefd286872836f7db38dcac9591e0130ab85bc3b6bb555eb98a49b29.jpg

         1. “5-Time Apocalypse Champion” LOL

   2. “Lesser changes, like the oscillation between warming periods and ice ages are the result of polar shift and solar activity.” First, polar shifts have fuck all to do with climate change. Secondly, the change in climate has been perfectly aligned to the change in Greenhouse gasses, and unless you can provide a reason why the correlation is not causation, I am just gonna stick with Occam’s razor.
      “But our modest yellow star is a long way from going nova.” Umm no, the Sun isn’t even big enough to have a Supernova event.

      1. You have an disproportionate level of hostility. They have stuff for that, you know.
         Now, your last sentence is technically correct, but you’re putting word into my mouth, and that never moves the discussion forward. I said “nova,” which I admit is also not the right term since “nova” indicates a binary star system.
         As far as polar shift is concerned, there is ample research to suggest otherwise.
         https://watchers.news/2016/02/23/widespread-extinction-after-earths-hyperactive-magnetic-field-reversals/
         I have no objection to healthy debate. Should you respond to my comments in the future, I request that you watch your language.

   3. That is total bullshit. People spout the volcano lie ALL THE TIME. Look up CO or CO2 gas logs per year, its a clear slow increase, not some huge bump because of a volcano blowing.
      Look, I am skeptical of environmentalism due to femenist connections, but we need to be real here.

      1. “That” being what? I agree, we need to be real here. So in the future, if you respond to one or my comments, don’t put words into my mouth. OK, Sport? Also, please watch your language.

         1. Dont tell me what to do. You spout bullshit then get angry when someone calls you on it. Grow up ‘sport’.

         2. Angry? You’re cute, internet tough guy, so I’ll continue playing.
            “Don’t tell me what to do” followed by “grow up.” Your cognitive dissonance is on display for all. Guess you forgot that the internet if forever.
            I’ll hold out one more olive branch: Unless you’re performing original research, all either of us are doing is reading someone else’s and drawing our own conclusions. If we can’t agree on something as basic as that, then yes, there’s no point in continuing this thread.
            Take the last word, if you want.

7. Most of those factors are just different means for the same endgoal: globalist victory.
   (((who))) is promoting economic collapse?
   (((who))) is promoting WWIII?
   (((who))) is promoting race war?
   (((who))) is promoting cultural collapse?

   1. Lots of people are promoting those things actually.

      1. Of course, and there is NOT a majority of jewish influence there, isn’t?
         https://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-clinton

      2. Mostly, it falls into two groups: corrupt individuals who have a financial stake in destroying the traditional family, religion and the values that made the West great and their useful idiots who are so keen on being opened minded their brains fell out.
         The latter are the scariest of the two. They are the ones promoting the idea that the Founding Fathers of America were evil racists out of a self-loathing that I don’t fully understand. This and a host of other ideas from the Department of Cultural Guilt (noble savage, anyone?) are quite baffling from a logical perspective: So white people were more successful than other races (except maybe Asians)? The logical course of action is to adopt their practices and increase your own group.
         Instead, SJW’s and Progressives have decided that complaining and theft are the best ways to improve their own groups. I suppose this is the most intellectually lazy course of action, which may be why they didn’t beat whites in the West.

      3. and people wonder why alt-right isn’t taken seriously. The absurd Wikipedia article someone posted below isn’t making alt-right look like a bunch of dickweeds for no reason. What they do is they take the most vocally insane people with no logic or reason who are basically scared little children and then try to paint the whole group with the same brush. It is easy to do because that small percentage of totally irrational netbacks is loud and stupid enough to outside the vast majority of people who are just looking to make a better life for themselves and strengthen their nation.

         1. Stick with infogalactic. It’s a wikipedia fork that is designed to weed out SJW influence.
            There are also extensions to your web browers to automatically do searches on it
            http://voxday.blogspot.co.il/2016/10/infosextant-infogalactic-extension.html

      4. “yes goyim, take it from the resident pompous douchebag who somehow has 20 hours a day to comment on ROK, jews being in control of every institution is completely irrelevant”

         1. But dont forget he is way too alpha for you

         2. I think he’s busy giving push up tips to Chuck Norris

   2. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70586ebf0b8980ef9c58b4bd11fcff41bd99d81dbfc4c56c136478e4341cb300.png

      1. Oh Vey

         1. History books are some of the worst propaganda out there. Everything is blamed on whites, although technically Africans sold their own people. Somehow that is left out though.

         2. Winners write the books…

         3. “Politically Correct history is a marvelous thing. You never know what’s going to happen yesterday”

         4. http://ihr.org/

      2. Sheeyut.

      3. Settle down Adolf.

         1. Settle down goyim

         2. It’s just a (((cohencidence))) goy, nothing to see here.

      4. the white guy should have a gun to his own head since it seems that there are more whites than anything that supports modern liberalism .

   3. https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/84/1385845017842.png

   4. (((Coincidence overload)))

   5. https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.national-socialism.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Fjewish-democracy.jpg&f=1

      1. Exactly. There is an interesting political analyst in Argentina, Adrian Salbuchi, who uses a very true metaphor: the options in this modern world are Coca Cola or Pepsi Cola; you choose one or the other but the result will be the same.
         
         That video is old in date but very accurate.

   6. Boy Scout motto, Always be prepared. So ammo up, prepare for the worst, hope for the best. I think most likely is WWIII (we’re overdue for a nasty war as far as cycles go, and China has already declared that a war with the USA is inevitable), and economic collapse. There is a tipping point to how high they can stack their deck of cards with their fiat currencies and deficit spending and entitlements. Sooner or later the Piper must be paid. If I were a betting man though, I’d go with economic collapse followed by war. You might get some race riots thrown in there, but my bets are those will be localized to the neighborhoods and cities where the race tensions always seem high (Chicago, Baltimore, etc etc).

      1. It’ll probably be any combination or all of those things. The only question is what will start it.

   7. There are absolutely no white people involved in this at all. Not a single German, not a single Englishman, absolutely no white people from the old Connecticut families or the old California families. Definitely NOT the Bushes, or any of the presidential families, literally (not Hitler) all of whom, except for Martin Van Buren, but including “black president” Obama, are descended of King John of England.
      Also, there is ZERO Saudi influence, or any Asian influence, and for sure the Russians have nothing whatsoever to do with any of it. And of course, no a single Jesuit or anyone from the Vatican.
      Nope, it’s all guys from the shtetl.

      1. Jewish are less than 2% (as you must know, right Shlomo?) of the global population, yet they are overrepresented in the international politics, global mainstream media and global finance.
         The jewish politicians, media moguls and bankers are the people behind globalisation, international finance, race-mixing, mass immigration, sexual decadence and perversion. Emmanuel, Soros, Rothschild, Kuhn, Loeb, Zuckerberg, Dworkin, Spielberg, Geffen, and thousand of other members of your Tribe are working with a clear agenda and a clear objective.
         The objective is simple: they want to destroy western civilisation and the race who created it, the white race. They want to destroy my people, they want to destroy my family, and they want to destroy me.
         The jewish race is waging a war against my culture, my race and my very existence. Your people want to destroy every that is good, strong, healthy, beautiful, logical and sane. Every single jew is an enemy soldier in this war; and you are an example of that. Your comment trying to say that there is NOT jewish influence in the world situation its only your little contribution to the war effort of your people against my people.

         1. First of all, my name is Ron, not Shlomo.
            Secondly, I don’t have a problem with your race, your culture, or your very existence. I don’t want to destroy anything that is good, strong, healthy, beautiful, logical and sane. I won’t pretend I am in love with you, but my xenophobia is more of the “stay out of my country” version than anything else. I am not an enemy soldier in this war, unless your side is the side of the Ford Foundation, the various secret societies, the Gay Mafia, anyone associated with the Dulles brothers, or any of my distant relations in Hollywood that push any of the leftist filth, etc etc.
            Third, you have absolutely no idea at all of what people like me have to put up with. In America, people occasionally get suicided. In Israel it’s a shooting war between the socialist families that run the country and our version of the alt-right, only their side has the support of the Western governments, provided they suck up properly (ie. sell us all out, which they frequently do). Where you live, it’s a bunch of rich Jews fronting for even richer white leftists who push the gay parades. In Israel, there are European NGO’s that pressure and actively threaten the government to allow those same parades. Where you live, people occasionally protest those parades, where I live people get killed and beaten over it. So please don’t tell me that I am the one supporting the faggotry.
            Fourth, I didn’t say there was no Jewish influence. What I am saying is that you are making it look like it is 90% Jewish influence. It is not even remotely that. It is way way more complicated than you or most people think.

         2. The reply he gave you was casually solipsistic and overtly lying.
            And why should he even give you the courtesy of the truth?
            You are not even an actual human in their eyes.
            Dogs are more human in their eyes.
            They do not feel the least bit threatened by us
            because even if we gave our greatest and strongest act of self-preservation against our genocide, they will not even be slowed down.
            They have a hidden reason for their humanly impossible levels of power
            and it’s not harder work, or more intelligence, or higher education, or better ethics, or more bravery, or longer careers, or more willpower, and certainly not superior genetics.

   8. Mmmm, there may be, afterall, something to that ancient prophesy that the Son of God will (have to) “return” in order to save US from our sins (e.g. Satan) and establish a government of absolute “righteousness” (equity, fairplay, common interest, etcetera). Maybe because of extreme narcissism, we just do not understand true love, we just do not get it.

   9. “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire

8. Number 7 is very much related to 5 and 6. A Gradual Decline and then a Culture Collapse is what would be needed for 7 to occur. If the Globalist Win then it will be due to the long period of decline and the western culture slowing changing to a feminist Dystopia.
   I think the long term of a Globalist victory could mean the human race would Gradually Decline even further and might disappear. If you read the r/K selection theory then you would understand the only people that could lived in a world like that would be r types like the above picture of 6

   1. I was thinking this too The cultural decline is part of the gradual decline which has been occurring for a long time now. This is the true globalist victory. All of this while the media and it’s organs broadcast a non stop message of possible catastrophe which could destroy us at any time. The answer of course is more government power and controls on the sheeple.
      The narrative gives the sheeple fear. So they look to who is promoted as their new master, the all caring, all knowing big mother corporate state.

      1. Yes it is a battle that has been playing out a long time. What time in history would you point to when the decline started to happen in the west?
         I have read many books a lot of them pointed to World War 1 as the turning point were the shift happen and this is true of Europe since it never recover to its position in the world both financially, militarily and culturally. Others have pointed to World War 2, Central banking in 1913, End of the Bretton Woods, woman getting the vote, the rise of feminism and woman leaving family, and the introduction of the pill.
         I think of each of these things as a major events that shift the world and manly in the west towards what we have today.

         1. Agreed.
            Turn of 20th century up to WW2. Everything you mentioned plus the rapid change in technology which altered the American way of life from then on.
            Post modernism. Cosmopolitan living. Consumption based economy.

   2. There is already a race war occurring, but only the blacks are fighting it.

9. Y’all got it wrong on all counts. The collapse will involve, at a minimum, snakes (presumably, on a plane). Not to worry though, as Lenny Bruce remains undaunted.
   http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/end-world-564×640.jpg

   1. Lenny Bruce was never that funny. And he knew it. Stipe still alive? I thought he would croaked from the gay man’s disease already.

      1. It’s from 1988. July 11th actually.
         Bruce sucked. Rumors of his hilarity were grossly exaggerated.

         1. “Bruce sucked. Rumors of his hilarity were grossly exaggerated.”
            I felt the same about REM’s so called “talent.”

10. The collapse will be slow, and barely noticeable. It won’t be anything like the title-image. Eventually little things that you take for granted will be shoddier and shoddier. Grandparents will reminisce about the good old days, while the young people in society attribute it to nothing more than revisionist nostalgia.

    1. My thoughts exactly. Nothing is going out with a bang. Instead, a slow decline in ethics, then in lifestyle, finally in politics. The Millennial/Baby Boomer feel-goodism, the slow agonizing descent of the middle class into “low-cost” new poverty (along with the collapse of welfare systems in a childless, non-native West), and finally, the resurgent tide of Socialism (and, as a consequence, “extremism”, both religious and political, read, “true fascism”, something we still have not these days, but which I think in 20/30 years will surely see the light of days again).
       The “mobs” are beyond awareness. Buy a ticket to the last sanctuary and enjoy the ride. Red pill young Millennials… I’m sorry for their future.

       1. Don’t count out “with a bang” too much John. The situation of the relations between Russia and U.S. regarding Syria could go full hot war quite easily. Obama seems to be pushing Putin diplomatically on this for reasons unknown.

          1. “Obama seems to be pushing Putin diplomatically on this for reasons unknown.”
             He is pivoting to these issues to ensure his excellent diplomatic track record remains unbesmirched. This will ensure voters to have confidence to support HItlery continuing with his foreign policy mastery. //sarc
             Saber rattling to divert those voting masses. It will cease after 9 Nov.

          2. Actually I don’t even think that the “masses” know what’s going on right now with Russia, Syria etc. You don’t see it really covered much in the news, and what little there is half reported and “ho hum”. The reality is though that this shit is dangerous to the extreme. In my estimation anyway.

          3. Indeed, noone can rule that out. Then again, since Hiroshima, we were no longer truely safe. We both lived the final days of the Cold War. Between Russia and the West/NATO, it is more plausible a war of fears than actual war.
             Russia knows it has the upper hand. Why? “Democracy” makes people’s fears more audible. Putin is just using his trump card, perhaps with the intent of seizing the moment (final days of a weak american presidency, probable beginning of another one of the same type). He knows America is entangled in the difficult Israel/Wahaby Salafi/Iran trilemma, and that is why he must keep Assad in power for as long as he has the means for it.
             In the economic field, he is waging war against the OPEC cartel, and struggling against American and European sanctions, using his BRICS agreements and the EAEU to fend against absolute collapse…
             Putin is in a greater danger for now, but he is playing with everything he can (mostly, fear). America will (only) lose its global power status (remember China and the BRICS) in the long run, but is too weak to avoid it now that it still could…

          4. It’s pretty simple. Obama supports ISIS. Putin is supporting Assad’s mission to take out ISIS. Obama can’t have that, so the US must attack Russian efforts in Syria. Clinton and Obama are claiming that Trump and his supporters are Russian operatives, who are hacking DNC emails, to justify attacking Russia.

       2. In a few decades when every WW2 era person is dead, I wager many of the old alliances holding Europe together will start to shift as the common bond of shared struggle fades. A good old fashion peer conflict will get the party really started.

       3. “The Millennial/Baby Boomer feel-goodism, the slow agonizing descent of the middle class into “low-cost” new poverty” Sorry to tell you, but what you call the “middle class” is 1) Not middle class (which I will hereby refer to as petite bourgeoisie, a more political science oriented term) and 2) has always been the working class (which I will hereby refer to as proletariat, because its also more political science oriented). Petite Bourgeoisie presumes that you have a small portfolio of assets, doesn’t really require credit to make investments, can buy a limited amount of luxury items, etc. and really, only like 3-5% of people actually have ever fit this category. Ever.

          1. I understand your point, but “middle class” is something almost impossible to define, at least in an universal, consensual agreement.
             You are focused in a social and cultural approach, which makes what you said true. I was mentioning a broader, exclusively economic group.
             In an effort to be more accurate, let’s think of “middle class” as consummerist, non-survivalist proletariat. Survivalist proletariat and unemployed/subsidized are the lower class, as those non-dependant of professional (corporate or not) income, with enough accumulated wealth generating assets would be the upper class.
             By all means, I prefer your definition, but we must work with this one, as current political rhetoric makes it common ground (even if it is propagandistic; remember the claims of democratic virtue, egalitarianism and even, “social justice”).

    2. The simple fact of the matter is we just happen to be alive at the inevitable decline and death of western civilization. This was going to happen no matter what. Decadence and decline ALWAYS sink in once a civilization has become too comfortable. And western civ is undoubtedly the most successful and comfortable civilization the world has ever seen.

       1. Since the beginning of civilization people have been predicting its collapse. They are all right….it will eventually collapse….but, I really believe, you can chalk it up to narcissism and arrogance that every generation thinks it is right around the corner. It never is. Ask Charles Taze Russell how far off it is if you can a) resurrect him and b) catch him while he isn’t busy zombie molesting children

          1. The Western world is past its zenith. That’s obvious for anyone at this point in time, I think. What’s left is to thrive and ensure a better future for your bloodline if you choose to have any or enjoy yourself and not get killed in some stupid war on behalf of someone else’s interest, specially since transcendental causes died with Christianity in the Western world.

          2. I don’t know. I mean I just guess I don’t have it in me to be so down on the world. There is a lot of really amazing stuff out there

          3. I get your point, that’s why I say thrive. We as men have to, we don’t have the luxury of expecting a millionaire princess to come to the rescue. There are amazing things in the world, but I have always had a simple defect. I cannot ignore an obvious danger even if my stomach is full and my balls are empty. However that’s how 90% of everyone I know operates (ignore the danger if your stomach is full until it’s too late, whether in personal affairs or in professional life.

          4. Well put. I go a little further down the road though. Every single generation has spoken about an immediate and all consuming danger. Only one of two things can happen. 1) something and 2) nothing. I know a lot of people will say prepare for 1 and hope for 2. But that just isn’t my characteristic. I am going to act under the assumption that #2 is certain and if it so happens I am wrong I will either adapt or die. It just seems like a better ride to me.

          5. Yeah, I met with a colleague last night. He’s much more of a “traditional” guy than me. Not necessarily red pill. But the topic came up of the NFL and the lower ratings. I said the current election is better entertainment than anything on television. Every morning I check what is the latest shit Trump tweeted, and what did they find in Hillary’s emails. He said he hoped people were boycotting the NFL because of the players not honoring the flag.
             I personally don’t salute or pledge allegiance to flags. I also don’t feel much loyalty to my nation, which I see as actively working against my interests in most cases. But I did stop and consider this guy’s point of view. Perhaps he was just being optimistic. Perhaps it’s good to feel that your nation, the place you live, is good and should be honored and respected. Me? I still believe respect must be earned. But I also think perhaps the world functions better when you have people like him in the majority whose default position is to take umbridge at those who don’t respect the nation. In short, I suppose a little propaganda and zenophobia keeps things running smoothly.

          6. both points of view, yours and his, are fair and valid and reasonable. I simply don’t pay attention to sports….NFL and National Politics included. I have more important things than to watch reality TV. As it turns out, for all the people telling me the gloom and doom shit and how I am just not paying attention to disaster, I am the one who is living the better life in most cases.

          7. Two things I really like about the Queen’s English are the slight differences in the use of “sport” and “government”.
             Calling something sport instead of sports somehow makes it seem more trivial and silly, which of course it is.
             And calling something government instead of the government makes it seem less powerful and more mundane and unimportant, which of course it is. I have adopted both to my vocabulary.

          8. I like and will begin to include.

       2. “…civilizations ascend in hob-nailed boots & decline in silk slippers…” I don’t know who to credit with the quote, but it seems accurate.

       3. “Decadence and decline ALWAYS sink in once a civilization has become too comfortable.” Such as when?

    3. “Grandparents will reminisce about the good old days, while the young people in society attribute it to nothing more than revisionist nostalgia.” Its true though…

11. Looks like Hillary is pulling some major strings. This is so fucking transparent.
    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/10/17/wikileaks-state-party-cut-julian-assanges-internet-connection/
    Nothing like silencing opposition. Thanks, you Soviet witch!

12. I don’t think collapse is very depressing, or at least not as depressing as what passes for modern civilization. I don’t have kids, and the wife and I have recently started getting into survival stuff for fun anyway. Plus I might get to shoot some leftists without going to jail.
    In all seriousness though, this life is over in the blink of an eye, so I spend absolutely no time worrying about how or when the final moment will arrive.

13. I see a combination of 5,6, and 7. If you visit a college campus today, #5 is already reality.

    1. hmmm I got my money on 4.
       The time when blacky can bully straight white men into paying for their chitllins in fucking over.
       They wont like that.

14. I’m always amazed by millennials out there who seem to think a nuclear exchange between the U.S. and Russia is no big deal, and they will be able to continue to sip their sugary lattes from the sidelines and virtue signal like before.
    Really, what are they teaching in those universities? It sure as hell isn’t common sense. Or logic.
    Putin is right when he says that many people in the West don’t seem to feel a sense of the impending danger. They seem to be completely numb, apathetic.

    1. Most of us, with the exception of those who have served in the military, have lived in a protective cocoon our whole lives, so how can we really believe in the danger of an apocalyptic war. As for most millenials if they saw a tank rolling down their street they’d reach instinctively for the nearest xbox controller and marvel at the realistic graphics

    2. Nature has a way of weeding out the weak and stupid

       1. Hasn’t happened in recent years, as 50 mill. are on welfare in the U.S. Europeans are now weak and stupid, over run by Muslim invaders soon to be ruled under a caliphate. Europe has no alpha men only cowards and sissies. Mayhem and killing will soon be order of the day. Each generation gets dumber and dumber.

15. 
    …and I feel fine!

16. I don’t think economic collapse is now inevitable. The banksters did their best to stave it off for the next 20-30 years by selling the current generation out. Notice how the current generation has to pay massive student loans and expensive mandatory health care? That was not by chance, but by design. They literally took a loan out from young people to continue paying for the system.
    I think race war or general world war are the most likely. Liberals have now been turning the screws on whites for the last five years and I have noticed that whites are starting to say “fuck this shit” collectively. And guess who has been buying the literal millions of guns since 2008? Not blacks or hispanics. It will only be a matter of time before white posies show up to put down BLM riots when the police decline to do so.
    Russia going lion is also a good possibility especially as we emasculate our military. Do you think all those women, homos, and trans-mental-illness soldiers are really going to hold the line against Russian shock troops? Of course not. And yes we have plenty of fancy billion dollar weapons but what happens when all those women, homos,and trans-mental-illness soldiers who are trained to operate them run away? And even though there is still some of the “legacy” military left in place do you think they will care enough to really fight for a country that literally raped the whole institution in the name of political correctness? Most of the guys I know who fit the bill say they are just in it for the paycheck and retirement these days. I don’t think they would hesitate to say fuck it, take some guns, and go home to defend their family.

    1. Could you really call it a “race war,” though? American blacks are only about 12-13% of the population. And I guarantee if they try to do anything, no other group is going to help them out. It’d pretty much be the blacks vs. the remaining 87% of America.

       1. Yea the Mexicans would probably join the whites.

          1. Without question.

       2. I could see some hispanics joining with them, but in some areas of the country (like LA) they absolutely hate each other. The real problem will be all the race traitor whites that will side with them. Also their population concentration in ghettos in major cities make them a more formidable enemy. You are going to have to convince rural whites to put their lives in peril and assault those ghettos. How many are just going to say “this is why I live in the countryside around my own kind” and decline? My guess is a good bit.
          Assaulting those ghettos too is going to be block to block savagery much like the Battle for Berlin. They are going to fight tooth and nail for every house. You might be able to surround them and starve them out because they have absolutely no means to produce their own food in those ghettos. It’s not nice but you can live on rats, cats, and dogs for a long time though. Cutting off water would be more effective but dealing with the impending humanitarian issues will be a politically difficult one to swallow. It could even prompt international intervention if it looked like some form of “ethnic cleansing”.
          The real question is what do you do with all the prisoners? If the rule of law is still intact, they are still US citizens and unless habeus is suspended they are still entitled to due process. Also it is not like you can, legally speaking, just throw them on a boat and send them back to Africa. Plus any receiving country would have to accept them. One might be able to come up with an “incentive” structure to get them to leave voluntarily and receiving countries might be happy to take them because of the influx of cash. Plus do you kick them all out or do you make exceptions for the “good” ones like maybe the ones that fought on your side? But what do yo do with the hold outs? That’s when your options get few and really nasty.

    2. I’m willing to bet Russian soldiers as a whole are on another level of toughness and will to win.
       I recently read the transcript of a Russian soldier who called a fucking air strike on himself when surrounded by ISIS. He knew he was about to die and he accepted it while still calling down the thunder on his enemies.
       That is what the Spartans would call “andreia” or true masculine courage.
       The Russians are hard as fuck. I wonder if their soldiers have the kind of PTSD problems ours do. My guess is no. Their lives are more harsh, they will eagerly kill and happily die for their country.
       What the hell is the US army gonna do about that? Probably have their video game playing soldiers grab their joysticks and attempt to fly some drones over them.

       1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v31hxJc_FKM

       2. I was in Russia once and went drinking with a few from a local base. Those guys are rough as nails, can drink a bottle of vodka and still be coherent, and really have nothing to live for other then the next substance that lessens the pain of life. Russia is a poor, empty, desolate country with a harsh climate. These are a people that propped up solely because the government provides for basic living means. Other then that they have no hope for just about anything. You give a man with no hope and no future a gun and tell him to fight and we know what happens next…

          1. Last I checked, the average life span of a russian male was 59. That might have improved since I was last there, but the harsh lifestyle and lack of a future leaves little to be desired. Their demographics decrease year-on-year, acception being economic refugess from the Stans, and I am not certain Russia will be able to pull out of the population death spiral (which is only acknowledged in a private setting).

          2. Through all that mean and unforgiving life they have managed not only to survive but thrive in many ways.
             Certainly admirable.

          3. Survive, yes. But thrive? Can you objectively call Russia (or at least modern Russia) a thriving nation?

          4. For the simple fact alone that they threaten the west. You cannot be a threat to someone, anyone, much a less a world superpower if you are not also powerful.
             No nation barely surviving can be such a threat.

       3. “..transcript of a Russian soldier who called a fucking air strike on himself when surrounded by ISIS”
          Not unusual. My father told me, slightly drunk at my sisters wedding, the time he was the radio operator for his battery in Vietnam. His battery was supporting 2 FOs/or LRRPs who were dropped off as air recon spotted movement in their sector. They FOs made contact almost immediately undetcted and waited till is was getting dark. They found they were in the middle of a VC BN rally point and called in the artillery. The dinks realized there had to be a FO adjusting fire and started looking for them. They called the last salvos on their own position.
          Of course, most Americans are not worthy to call those dead FOs countrymen.

    3. !The banksters did their best to stave it off for the next 20-30 years by selling the current generation out!
       I am still undecided about all this. Crisis is built into the system, but is that necessarily something the elite wish to avoid? The hard left at least has always seen collapse as a means to bringing the system crashing down so that a new order can be instituted. Yet a great many of the elites – those who on the surface should be capitalists are themselves leftists, statists and collectivists: and they live off crisis and volatility. Generally speaking the only people who benefit from crises and collapse are those who’ve organised to so benefit.
       So, while some are certainly trying to stave off crisis, many may not be

       1. I think the system as a whole is in correction mode. Sure it can always go array, but really banksters will not benefit from crisis. They are usually the first to get it when the fall comes. I remember being in NYC in 2008 when the collapse first hit. I was in a bar close to Wall Street. It was packed on a Tuesday afternoon. The customers were a hundred or so bankers that just lost their jobs and most lost their fortunate as stock options collapsed and high risk retirement funds broke. Those guys had no interest in the “correction” that they helped engineer and I think learned their lesson – never again. If any collapse comes it will be gradual decline into recession then depression instead of a jump off the cliff.

          1. well I hope you’re right, although if it is I imagine it is a question of correcting to a reset point so that the whole boom and bust cycle can begin once more. I recognise that some bankers may have had a hard time of it back in 2008 – like ordinary folk – but perhaps its also about the terminology we use. We tend to regard bankers as a monolithic bloc, when in doing so we’re really treating of both the personnel involved and the system as a whole, including the central bank system itself. What I’m referring to is mainly the system as a whole – which feeds off the cycles of boom and bust, and the inherent volatility that such ‘bubble-economics’ (to borrow from David Stockman) inevitably generates. To speak of ‘bankers’ in this sense is really to speak of the very top tier: the people who have substantial stakes in the banks and in the banking system as a whole, as well as the leadership. Very occasionally those top tiers sorts go down when things go tits up – we saw that with the Lehman brothers for instance, but if you look beneath the surface what happened there could also be explained in terms of high level machiavellian rivalry between the CEOs of Goldman and Lehman (Lehman lost obviously). Below that tier you get the obscenely rich bonus generating class of bankers – investment bankers etc: they suffered a lot in 2008 beyond, but despite the obscene money they sometime make, they’re only players within the system, ordinary workers who just happen to do very very well when they aren’t leaping off high buildings because bet billions in the wrong direction. That class of investment bankers and the like, seem to be on the decline as the banks have been cutting their ranks and business I think has been moving to hedge funds etc (which themselves are now under more scrutiny now). At the danger of going off topic there’s also the move away from the crisis solution of bail outs towards a situation where bail ins will be the norm should say Deutsche Bank fail in the way that too big too fail banks failed back in 2008. I mention that, because arguably the consequences of a further banking crisis in 2016 or beyond may be quite different than in 2008 when governments bailed out the most systemically important institutions. So returning to the question of whether banksters do or don’t benefit from these crises I’d say it depends on what level you look at it: obviously if a bank goes under, that bank and its personnel don’t benefit, but does the banking system as a whole necessarily suffer in the same way. I’m not entirely sure. I suspect its been set up that way, and the whole bail in system has been designed to protect the banking system itself.
             Of course, there is also the (more) conspiratorial view that each successive economic (and other type of) crisis is about moving us closer and closer to a system of global control, where banks will effectively control and monitor everything about our lives. This is both about consolidation of central bank control internationally (through the BIIS, IMF, world bank and international reserve currencies) as well as the individual banks are likely to have an increasing level of control over our lives, particularly if they go ahead and abolish cash etc.

17. Is that a gay pride parade or just a group of ordinary modern young men marching to the recruiting office to sign up for the fight against Putin?

18. George Soros has Jewperpowers, not superpowers. Direct action could take him out.
    Because, frankly, if Trump doesn’t win, that raises the stakes considerably that we’ll see white men bypassing the political process and striking directly at the degenerate elitists responsible for destroying the country.

    1. america is too big for that. I see the collapse of the white race basically through liberal propaganda, incarceration, gun control and pretty much calling all white males rapist.

       1. Nah
          600 million and all over E Europe, Russia, Europe, Australia 90% white and USA

19. Total Failure of the State will spread all around the world. We will see the chaos currently happening in places like Juarez, Mexico, or Aleppo, Syria, or Libya metastasize all around the globe. There will be so many warring factions that the necessary order for World War, as we knew it in the past, will be impossible.

20. Fiat collapse is most likely…..

    1. Those cars were really never that great, true.

       1. Fiat = fix it again tony

21. “The brave and bold persist even against fortune; the timid and cowardly rush to despair through fear alone.” If shits going to hit the fan it will regardless. Any of these doomsday scenarios really cant be prepared for without sacrificing the present and many more probable future options.

    1. Why not?
       You don’t have to go full Psycho Survivalist to keep some long term storage food and water filters on hand. Owning a few firearms, hey, not a bad idea either. Knowing how to hunt and learning to garden, golden talents. If you don’t fish, start. And learn to build a fire. Hell, home fries, I’d say pick up a Boy Scout manual from prior to the 2000’s and master the skills therein and you’ll be ahead of 98% of the population where it comes to being prepared in skills and knowledge for bad times.

       1. I get what your saying, some basic prudence and planning is on order for your run of the mill disaster situation. I have a weeks water, dry goods on hand and a small garden, I am fairly well “prep’d” and knowledgeable on all things outdoors and firearms related.
          Getting a fire going, and shooting some small game is fine but none of that is going to help if your savings are wiped out due to economic collapse, or major war breaks out in your neighborhood.

          1. I was thinking about the large number of Japaneses people that kept there savings in their homes when that tsunami hit a few years back. They though they were securing themselves from a global financial collapse, instead their savings were washed away.

22. We are concluding the Iron Age and that will be a little chaotic and uncomfortable for many months or a few years — the phony Money System and war mongering bullshit has to end. But what most people don’t realize is that the next phase is the Golden Age, where truth and real innovation / technological advancement is allowed to flourish. No more “planned obsolescence” or “engineered to fail” or “third-tier science.” There are thousands of incredible inventions / solutions that have been collecting dust for many generations now, just waiting to be unveiled.
    Golden Age
    As an example, there’s been many cures discovered and perfected for cancer over the last couple hundred years. Once the criminal mainstream medical system is truly unmasked for what it is, people will be able to learn these simple and natural techniques and protect themselves from the scourge of cancer. They’ll also come to understand cancer is a logical reaction of the body when subjected to certain toxic conditions. Simple, commonsense protection and treatment will eradicate cancer from most of the planet within a few years. We have much to look forward to after “the fall.”

    1. Allister you have interesting ideas but yet you fail to understand the most basic rules how humans function. Maybe you should get out more and interact with real people? Might help.
       Back to topic. It may be that cancer is as you say, but…do you think – in all honesty – that the people would accept this news?
       It has been tried many, many times. He who brings this news ends in the shit and the people he wanted to “enlighten” spit on him and often outright hate him.
       Jesus be one very good example. It was not pontius pilatus who put him on the cross – it was the will of the people. Even “Lucifer” aka the devil in translation means “he who brings the light”.
       Thats what the people see in guys like you who have dreams of “golden ages” and “freedom for the people” -> here is the secret if you have not guessed it by now: The people do NOT WANT to be free. They do NOT WANT to be enlightened. They do NOT WANT change.
       What people want is exactly what they have now. The leaders match the population. No exception.

       1. There is a bill hicks joke about just that… cant find it right now…

    2. This sounds interesting at first, but what do you really have to back this statement? Technologically, humans are in their prime, and our life expectancy is higher that it has ever been. History isn’t cycling, its linear.
       “Once the criminal mainstream medical system is truly unmasked for what it is, people will be able to learn these simple and natural techniques and protect themselves from the scourge of cancer.” Blah Blah Blah. “Simple” and “Natural”, what do these actually mean? What makes something natural any better? Cyanide is “natural”. Small pox is “natural”. What is natural and what makes it any better?

23. Nuclear is not profitable and it removes the ability to hold onto land and profit.
    The gradual decline has been in effect for roughly 50 years to lower the numbers of the intellectual and raise the number of consumers, i.e. genetically stupid brownies and white trash. The only way to level the population numbers is to reverse the course by implementing Conservative policies.

24. I am more apt to think of media controlled by leftist and big corps the rest. Kind of like now. Too much money at the table for anything to change. When you get 10,000 a day in articles against Trump..a businessman who has done very little in the way of politics outside of being an outsider.. the gig is up to think people in office are anything but bought and paid for.

25. Check out Dmitry Orlov’s 150 Strong: A Pathway to a Different Future

26. USA and West are humongous entities, and extremely rich, with resources gathered in course of centuries. They are not going to collapse suddenly unless an unpredictable event occurs. maybe environmental catastrophe, virus, peak oil although it is moved to the future.
    From a different point of view, more old fashioned, traditional and spiritual, contemporary Orthodox Saints, like St Elder Paisios, St Porfyrios, Russian Saint Seraphim of Sarov, they more or less all of them said the same things about the near future, in order to warn us Christians, give us hope and strength in hard times ahead. They spoke about an unexpected, in the modern materialistic world, revival of Orthodoxy and traditional Christianity after a few troubled years, and a large conflict. a revival of traditionalism, like we already view in Russia, USA with Trump and other early signs. Christ will intervene himself somehow in history and masses will return to Christian faith. It will not be the Second Coming. He will do that to help men, but also for modern men to not have excuse for their apostasy. It will be followed by a few decades of peace and justice, until nations and the majority will slide away from God again. The words of the Saints are more vague about that era. Maybe because it will not be in our times. People then will have to deal with that new threats both spiritual and cosmic threats.
    God is with us.

    1. Many prophetic works suggest a war with Russia. And this was said long before the recent era

       1. What other works are you suggesting?
          Russia’s name is involved, it is not very clear I must admit. It is left vague I am not worthy to say why the Divine Providence, left that topic unclear.

          1. Sorry I should have said, many prophetic passages from one collection of works – the Bible

          2. I don’t think Russia is mentioned in the Bible.

27. Of all the possibilities I want to see race war the most. I read this blog and Stormfront.org a lot & I think most of us want nothing more than to see Jews, blacks, Mexicans, and Arabs defeated and dominion over the US returned to whites.

    1. But let me guess, Asians are totally fine, right?

    2. Dream on, shitkicker. We’re here to stay and impregnate your daughters, sisters, and wives/gfs.
       And we’ve been here longer than you. If anyone is getting eradicated, it’s your useless ass.

       1. Doubt it. And you’re only impregnating the 1% of the mentally ill or cull whites.
          I don’t see this ending well for blacks or Joos. I see Haiti or Madagascar as deportation safe zones when it’s over

28. The environment is not going to collapse and stay there. It’s taken far worse than anything humans are even capable of. For instance all the soviet and US nuclear weapons at the height of the cold war are at best 1/8000 of the power of the hit that took out the dinosaurs and here we are. Climate change is always happening the idea that man’s CO2 has any significance beyond plant food is by the measurements false. So if there is anything environment to worry about it is the planet getting hit by something big from space.
    1,3,4,6,&7 are the same thing. 1,3,4,5,6 are the manipulations by the so-called elite to bring about 7.

29. World War III will never happen, people are too pussified these days. Think about it, countries used to be independent self governing entities who made decisions for themselves, but nowadays with the E.U. and heaps of trade allliances and stuff the world is like one big global family. Economic collapse will never happen either due to international cooperations and countries strongly hedging their currencies against foreign currencies in an intricate spiderweb of governmental financial security. The most likely situation is gradual decline or cultural collape, though these are already happening. Some could argue they happened when women gained the right to vote, some could say they happened with the introduction of birth control, and some could attribute it to the introduction of man made chemicals which caused people to become beta, or even immigration. Whatever the case these two aren’t future scenarios, they have already happened.

30. All of them mentioned & some which you didn’t !

31. “Attack on masculinity means no tribalistic men fighting for their self-determination.”
    Good grief. Relax buddy. That Gays won’t hurt your little tough guy act.

32. 8. SMOD

33. So when the collapse does happen, there will be riots and we will fight.
    And we will win.
    Men don’t change. Therefore, men’s ideas do not change. Therefore no matter how much effort the liberals put in to stop the people from having the final say in who represents, they will inevitably lose. Hillary could sit upon a throne of gold and claim herself queen of God’s blue and green Earth, but in the end, even the queen isn’t bulletproof.
    Blood will be shed, just like all the wars for freedom before this one.
    And, ultimately, man will come to realize that achieving freedom in this socialist environment is not insurmountable, it is just difficult to do. Always has been, and always will be.
    The collapse isn’t the important part. We will all be affected in some way or another, no matter what happens.
    What matters is how we pick ourselves up and out of the rubble. Because the collapse is coming, and it is coming fast and hard. And it will give a new meaning to the already overused term: “…zero to one hundred real quick.”

34. 450 million hollow point bullets bought and another 200 million rifle bullets ordered by our government. Two for each person should do. For target practice they say..except you don’t use hollow points for targets..if I remember right its even illegal to use them in war. Only the best for our citizens!

35. Is it just me or can you not downvote people on disqus anymore?

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