Cleon Skousen was an FBI special agent until 1951. He then taught at BYU and became Salt Lake City’s police chief in 1956. His classic book The Naked Communist included a 45 point summary of their subversive agenda in the USA. Many sources date this list to 1963, when it was read into the Congressional record. However, the book’s first copyright date was 1958, well before the mid-1960s when these changes took the public by surprise.
Communist goals of 1958
Gus Hall, Secretary General of the Communist Party USA
Items 1-14 concerned enhancing the position of the USSR and other Communist nations. Here’s the domestic agenda:
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use “united force” to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Does any of this sound familiar?
A few results of cultural Marxism today
Along with elements of the traditional subversion script, this shows clear influences of suicidalism and cultural Marxism, though missing a few notable agendas. Back in 1958, surely these predictions must’ve seemed merely like “McCarthyism“. Skousen got much criticism for his views. Clearly he wasn’t just blowing smoke, though; most items were partially or completely fulfilled. Did this really “just happen” all by itself, with the heat suddenly turning way up during the mid-1960s? Like Cassandra of Troy, he was a prophet ignored until it was too late.
The two parties didn’t become Communist, of course. However, the Democratic Party—formerly the working man’s party—was co-opted by cultural Marxism, and the Republicans became a controlled opposition. The educational system got pozzed out. So was the media, and I doubt it took much convincing to get them on board.
American culture—literature, art, history books, and religion—became remarkably different from that of times past; which would’ve been hardly recognizable to our forebears. Lawyerly activism got agendas 16 and 28 fulfilled with judicial scrupulosity, and assisted with some others. Recently the GLBT crowd got everything they wanted, though likely they’re thinking of new demands. Feminism burnt our social environment to cinders.
As for items not fulfilled, number 38 is quite alarming; it would’ve abrogated all semblance of due process and sent us straight to Kafka-land. Social agencies have tight integration with police, but quite fortunately don’t have direct powers of arrest. Item 45 would’ve been very ominous too. Some still think it would be wonderful to surrender our sovereignty to the corrupt UN, our wannabe world government.
Was all this accomplished by Soviet agents and Communist subversives? No, they had plenty of “useful idiots” to help do their work for them. All it took was the “long march through the institutions” to get into influential positions, put the ideas into the public sphere, and convince others that all this was “social justice”. As Yuri Bezmenov put it:
…the demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards.
What the future holds
Class-based Marxism-Leninism is a spent force. The few remaining Communist nations are hanging by a thread. Thus, the foreign policy points from items 1-14 (omitted for length) have little emphasis now. Unfortunately, today’s progressives still push “Communism Lite”.
There’s been little effort (yet) to roll back domestic measures, although the USSR—their reason for existence—ended in 1991. In fact, unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ll notice that many still are promoted quite actively. This wouldn’t have surprised Skousen very much. Powerful groups still find progressive ideology useful to control the public. As a biographical summary noted:
Skousen’s further studies eventually led him to conclude–like fellow anticommunist Robert Welch–that the communists were not the principals in the conspiracy to destroy America; they were merely the most visible arm of a much larger conspiracy. This conspiracy was run by a group of super-rich investment bankers from around the world who manipulated political agendas and public opinion to suit their own ends.
Proof of the elites’ influence and their power structure was found in a book by Dr. Carroll Quigley, a professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, called Tragedy and Hope. Quigley was a member of the elitist Council on Foreign Relations. He had many personal connections with the super-rich and could trace their financial dealings in detail.
Those who declared victory with the USSR’s collapse did so prematurely, since tricky globalist billionaire clubs are promoting much of the same these days, enforcing cultural Marxism through the media and other institutions. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Read More: Soviet Defector Yuri Bezmenov Accurately Predicted How America Would Decline
The Evil Council’s plan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzH8VXlXxNE (don’t sleep on this clip if you haven’t seen it it is genuinely brilliant)
“I don’t care” – Hirrarious!
can watch him say it 1000 times it will never not be funny
That was fantastic lol!
Yeah I thought this looked like (((their work))).
Excellent book and excellent article. It appears the SJWs kept marching with the original agenda.
Say hello to your new boss, same as your old boss. What gets me in the name game is the Communist were the enemy but were noted allies or intrinsic to the Nazis, but in modern times, the same behavior attributed to the Nazis, is now considered as the silent movement of the Jews. So were the Communists Jews or is this just a coincidence that they seem to be affiliated with all the steps leading to Communist goals being realized?
Kind of like the ending of Animal Farm.
You mean all the Deltas go on to become respectable professionals and all their adversaries in Omega house face miserable lives?
???? Sounds all Greek to me.
I have noticed how people’s perceptions changed when they gain power or influence. You have all the commoners that hate the powerful because the latter have the better life. But once one of the commoners advance in life and become powerful, they turn their back on their old cause. They suddenly couldn’t give two shits about their former comrades. The whole thing reeks of jealousy to me. Like the only reason people are angry is because they do not have the capacity or the means to live the life they desire, so they vent their ire on those who do.
The life of an elite is just too good. But few commoners are capable of reaching such status, so you have a permanent state of hostility between them. Personally, rather than bang my head against a wall, I’ll find a way to join the ranks of the powerful. The thing about power is that it is neutral. It is just a tool that can be used for good or evil. Everybody desires that power, but not everybody can get it.
Reminds me of this line:
There is no good or evil. There is only power and those too weak to seek it.
—Voldemort.
To be fair, Voldemort had unrealistic standards for the propagation of the wizarding community.
Working for Encounter Groups of Cleveland is *not* a respectable career!
Maybe. But he was the most powerful wizard. The path he chose might have been wrong, but it is the power he possessed that allowed him the chance to influence the world to his will.
Power, schmauer. I’d settle for 15min of life where I felt truly relaxed or at peace.
And this is what the truly power hungry are after– total destruction, so they can feel less pressure. So they can feel some kind of relief. Many of the most power hungry people the world are just engaged in vainglorious suicides by means of lighting their world on fire.
I’m not talking about the globalists. I’m speaking from an individualist’s perspective. Power is only a tool and is inherently neutral. If the globalists want to set the world on fire, let them. I’m talking about acquiring the power to shape my life according to my will.
It was a shame….Niedermeyer killed by his own men….
“got your nose!”
Perfectly sane post.
“OMG! There’s a super elite 1%! They control a lot of things! We have to stop this!” – Every single plebe movement in the history of mankind, not a single one of which succeeded.
Exactly. Most people don’t do a single thing to improve their own life. Instead, they choose to rail against things that are irrelevant to their lives.
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True, but his power was sought from an emotional level eg getting even with the parents who abandoned him and living up to the family name: the fulfillment of many an orphans dreams or wish fulfillment. Such an unstable foundation doomed him from the start. Grindelwold would have succeeded in his plans (created in the romantic arrogance all youth have) had dumblrdore not betrayed him.
Because it’s easy and they have no control over that, so they waste time virtue signalling demanding changes in others. If they focused on themselves, something they have control over, it would require personal effort and responsibility.
Which is why every anti-fag, feminist, SJW, etc… are complete sacks of feces.
No one HAS a good life. You can only BE a good life.
Jealousy, greed and avarice come from deviations of the natural acceptance of what we ARE.
The advertisement of a good car can promise you the women, thrills and happy moments you crave for, but you’ll always be stuck with the fact that either you can be happy with your simple bike (and we all ride bikes, even the ones with shiny Ferrari bikes) or you won’t be happy by means of acquiring that object (most of the times, you’ll be on the hamster wheel for years in exchange for 6 hours of doubts and 5 years of disappointment and regrets).
The more I know of life, the less I believe in poor/rich distinctions, and the more I believe in the great wise/unwise divide.
They are all pretty much the same. Same group that existed since the war in heaven.
The Jewish elite seem to have a tendency to poke sleeping bears (see the ’32 worldwide Jew boycott of German goods). Eventually the bear wakes up and they wonder why they’re mauled.
I found that a bit difficult to follow to be honest, although I appreciate the subject is sensitive.
The historical connection between communism and judaism is complicated and perennially controversial, not least as it certainly should be antithetical to orthodoxy (as opposed to secular / atheist jews). Whether that’s always the case is difficult to say. There is a collectivism to judaism, which historically seems to have attracted many. Someone should probably try to get funding to research this interesting subject….err or maybe not
You want to have some real fun take this list to a GOP convention on the local level and ask them what they have done about it. Watch the “I’ve been knocking on doors since ’72” cuckservatives shit themselves with rage.
It was a dark era before the Magic of the Meme.
The end of the book lays out pretty good what to do about it, basically live a traditional family life, be active in politics, don’t be afraid to speak up….we know the drill.
I like the way you think.
And the good news is the Soviet Union is gone, most communist nations have fallen, China may have a communist government but they have gone capitalist and best of all We are Fighting Back we are Taking this nation and our society back from their filthy liberal hands.
The USSR may be gone, but members of The Supreme Soviet are alive and well, and sitting pretty on the European Commission, and guiding the EU.
Communism was never repudiated by history. Don’t underestimate it’s resilience or toxicity.
This is an ongoing struggle.
its like saying “crime” is gone.
And many of the very same criminals we think of as boogeymen are doing the exact same thing all over again, in a new venue.
“The most puzzling development in politics during the last decade is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to re-create the Soviet Union in Western Europe.” Gorbachev
i wouldnt count china out yet, they are sending their people forth and they most certainly are multiplying, like cockroaches.
where i am, its very clear they intend on getting/taking over all the productive Pacific countries.
Hey the Chinese deserve our respect as they are getting their act together though their government is developing a reactionary mentality on the ground level their people are rebuilding their native culture which is really impressive and actually gives me hope for the west that we can do the same, after over six hundred years of foreign domination and exploitation starting with the Qin invasion up to the insanity of Mao they are rediscovering the wisdom of Confucius and the various other ancient great minds while others return to the traditional apparel of the Shenyi, the ruqun and aoqun.
Hmm what if someone researched into (((where))) communism came from and (((who))) are the main instigators.
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in a sense….
And his spawn here on earth
Oh yeah, sure, because nobody here ever talks about that.
well as topic of conversation, it holds a certain casual interest perhaps.
There’s nothing wrong with discussions and such, but a whole lot of people get really, really, really obsessed with the topic, to the point of making actual conversation impossible.
(((conversation))))
well quite. Not everything is about jews, gays, or whatever, but equally with respect to every article there should be some attempt to stay on topic, whether to take a position for or against (or maybe something in between). Too often there’s a choice between comments littered with parentheses or side conversations that can go somewhat off topic. Not that’s anything wrong with that in moderation
well controlling the discourse is pretty much what it’s all about whoever happens to be in charge
Has anyone here watched The Greatest Story Never Told? It gives an alternate take on Hitler and WWII. Apparently Germany was only trying to take back land that was taken away after WWI. Also Hitler stopped using the federal banks (due to German currency being garbage) & supposedly that’s what it was all about.
I’m not a Nazi sympathizer, but I’ve always been curious about the mainstream opinion that Hitler was just an unhinged madman. Somehow he managed to convince an entire country to follow him. I’m curious what anyone else thinks of this story.
It’s clearly biased (Hitler was the aggressor and no matter what one says, did not HAVE to invade anyone) but it does present an interesting view on many things. The victors write the history, and there is certainly gross misinformation about this time in history.
And yes, just as US meddling in the ME caused 9-11 and everything that has followed, the oppressive Versailles Treaty caused WW2. That doesn’t mean Hitler or the Muslims were justified in what they did (I don’t know why simpletons always jump to that conclusion) but it does mean that one logically lead to the other.
Good soundtrack in that movie, BTW.
It’s pretty clear to anyone who gets past the History Channel BS on WWII that Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, and the Polish and French leadership were all bad actors leading to WWII. Certainly a more complex situation than presented. Hitler tried to make peace with the Poles throughout 1939 well before the invasion. Again, that does not make him a great hero, but lots of self interests like any other war.
Hitler was a lunatic in thinking the German army was almost godlike in their powers. Sure, soldier for soldier, they were the most powerful fighting force on the planet, and were more deadly than the Brits, Americans, Soviets, or anyone else, except for one small thing. Germany is slightly larger than New Mexico, and to think it could battle dozens of countries at the same time is idiotic. The odd thing is, one would think a soldier who manned the front lines in WW1 and saw the violent battles and stalemates would realize this. After all the entire strategy of WW1 was to knock out the French as soon as possible so they could then concentrate on the eastern front, because they knew fighting multiple enemies along two fronts was impossible.
Yes, of course German ingenuity was unmatched (especially until they alienated some bright Jews who defected to the Allies), their weaponry was generally the best, their logistics and planning were great, and they had amazing generals, but at the end of the day, it’s insane to think you can battle a dozen first world armies at the same time. Especially when your lines of support are under attack when you do idiotic things like aggravating the natural Ukrainian allies who turn against you when you start destroying their towns.
Had one of the assassination plots against him succeeded, I wonder if there would have been a better outcome to the war for everyone involved. The generals certainly would not have allowed Stalingrad or the mass raping of German women when the war was clearly over and Soviets had an impending victory.
One can only wonder if Germany had not extended itself on so many fronts that they could have actually won something. Going to war with Russia was certainly a blunder though Stalin already had some plans in place to attack at some point.
We owe much of the post WWII world to work done by German scientists and engineers.
My running theory of US dominance is that we are a superpower precisely because of the Nazis and Jews that we took in during and after the war. The technology, rocket and plane knowledge, medical and scientific knowledge of those men gave us an advantage that has allowed us to shoot past all other nations. We are now coasting, and it’s only a matter of time until we are passed by.
America is inexplicable under any other theory. IE How does the “world’s greatest nation” have citizens who have on average less than $1,000 in savings? How does a nation with an entire unproductive class of people have the world’s strongest economy?
The best and brightest firms are not American anymore (unless you think Facebook is a more valuable resource than, say, Panasonic). It’s been a great run, but it’s coming to an end.
I’m not sure that all Germans liked Hitler. Communism and nazism are fairly comparable world views, both with a strong, centralized gov., a military-style police state, with subverting civil liberties, silence dissent, and limit individuals. Both socialistic in design. Nazis were also brutal to their own people.
Anyway, I’ll have to watch that show as it sounds interesting.
that movie is childish bullshit. see my comment above.
One believes in will to power, the other believes in surrender to the state. As opposed as two ideologies can be.
Yes, you’ve said as much several times on this board @d18kv178:disqus but can you be specific and refute any of it’s main points?
Great film that really detailed his motivations. He was terrified of the Bolsheviks more than anyone else and want the “madman who wants to take over the world” that we were taught. He also wiped out the degeneracy in Berlin much like Giuliani did in Times Square.
Great comment, great name, great avatar
that movie is amateurish bullshit. see my comment above.
Here’s a map showing post-WWI losses in cyan:
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dude that movie is some amateurish fucking childish bullshit. below are just a few idiotic statements that i myself could detect by skipping through the movie. i’m sure that people who are familiar with other events in depth could find much more. and here’s a tip: if you constantly hear some annoying fucking sad music in the background, you’re most likely listening to bullshit:
-unlike the film’s claim, Karl Liebknecht wasn’t a Jew
-1:16:40: “Warsaw capitulates… at the cost of 40,000 dead or injured.” what does it even mean? German, Polish, civilian, military, altogether? or something else? who cares. most important some lame sad fucking annoying music is constantly playing – which must make us feel horrible enough to stop worrying about details.
-…and while we’re on it – how come they never mentioned what Hitler did in a similar situation at the end of the war? he could stop the senseless loss of life and surrender in Berlin without fighting. he was offered many times. and yet he refused – which cost way more that 40,000 losses – more like hundreds of thousands.
-and while they’re talking about Poland, why they didn’t mention that this campaign cost German army over 16,000 dead and 3000 missing? or maybe it’ll make people wonder if the whole thing was worth it at all – and doubt Hitler’s greatness and wisdom?
-They can’t get the story straight even when Hitler can be legitimately shown in positive light. 1:18:49: “With French troops mobilising… Germany has no alternative but go on offensive.”
Huh? What “mobilising”? France actually ATTACKED Germany first (Saar offensive). Germany then acted in self-defense and according to international law. It was actually a sticking point during Nuremberg as it was hard to blame Germany for starting WW2 – when technically it was France who was the aggressor. But the producers of this ‘documentary’ couldn’t get even this straight – and ended up representing Hitler as a total fool.
-1:36:38: while they talk about atrocities of Soviet commies, they show a well known photo of Jews executed by Nazis in Mizocz in 1942. imagine if in a Holocaust documentary, a pic of NKVD victims was represented as murdered Jews? the stink about Zionist conspiracy would never end.
-1:50:20: “Hitler is so impressed by the tenacity of Russian troops that he exercises rare clemency… only one survivor is shot…”
wtf does it even mean. what kind of fucking “rare clemency” are they talking about? clemency to whom? to POWs? so do the authors of this film imply that normally Germans just shot all POWs on the spot? not even the most biased anti-Nazi historians ever claimed anything retarded like this.
so yeah don’t take this idiotic “documentary” seriously. you can get more accurate – and sometimes more favorable – info on Hitler just by reading Wikipedia.
If you say so bud.
Stfu dude
D18kv178 is a Zionist troll that only sticks its head up to attack anything damaging to the (((tribe)))
He got frustrated with me once and must have assumed I am Romanian from my name and took delight showing me a video of an old Romanian couple begging for their lives before being executed for trumped up ‘nazi warcrimes’. A sick individual.
5 shekels have been deposited in your account. Good goy.
dude that movie sucks ass. just watch it.
romanian couple? lay off that crack for a bit
shlomo that movie sucks.
This is what I’ve seen an read on this: There was anti-German sentiment in the Jewish community before the war. I’ve seen US newspapers that encouraged the boycott of German owned businesses and German imports. The hyperinflation in Germany was so severe it was better to burn the money as a way to keep warm. Value of the Mark would drop so much from AM/PM that one had to check before going for even a loaf of bread. Hitler wanted all the Zionist (Ashkenazi Jew) banksters out since they were responsible for the FIAT money. Many of them did leave on their own. There were refugees also. All these that left are included in that 6M total as victims of the Holocaust. Ones that did not leave were enslaved. Some were treated better than others, given proper medical/dental care, three squares, recreation etc., with pictures and all to back this up. Others worked, starved to death, shot or gassed and everything in between. The 6M is closer to 2M maybe less but still horrible. The ones our GI’s found starving were bc Gemany’s supply lines had been cut off due to Allied bombing etc. which was the objective. They were an unintended and unknown consequence if that is true, seems logical. As with most things the truth lies somewhere in between. Do your own research, look at all sides with an open mind BEFORE forming your conclusion.
That list sounds like Nanci Pelosi’s wet dream.
Barf!
i just googled nanci pelosi. dude. gross. wtf
Hopefully she was wet from urinating herself and not getting turned on.
depends
Q: What does it taste like to lick out a GILF?
GILF? ewwww i stick to CHILF
maybe 100 years ago… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80622d8dae034e2e043b96c33c8fc14f9c643aaeb2a6b58d55d27c96d8342810.jpg
ol’ jack is lookin’ to give her the ol’ “back and to the right”!
WB
checkin out that Grassy Knoll…
You would need a lawn mower to find a gash under there i bet.
Say what you want about JFK he was a looker.
that hair, that HAIR!
Surprisingly, she wasn’t repulsive in her day. Weird.
Too soon.
Outside of the time period, she’s not really too far off of the ol What Kneeman Would Bang mark.
A friend of mines niece went to college in CA and ended up befriending some of Pelosi’s younger relatives at USC. They admitted her and hubbi made their fortunes through shady land deals and insider trading. Real piece of work.
SHe has a face that makes me want to vomit
Same rapacious eyes.
Crazy eyes are always crazy
had crazy eyes even as a teenager
Agreed, but did you have to put in that imagery?
When Khrushchev said “We will bury you” he said he meant it would be done without them firing a shot.
The vast majority misunderstood who “we” was in that statement.
Nintendo?
(((mario)))
I assure you mario is an italian catholic (((plumber)))
As he banged his shoe on the table.
Then the Russians said that was their custom when they disagreed, like they can’t just raise their hand like in a classroom.
When Eisenhower asked Churchill if he needed help with Russia, after Germany was beat all to hell,
Churchill said something to the effect of “No, I can take care of that peasant” (Stalin).
Now we’re dealing with Muslims that are more like cavemen, but much crueler. AND more disgusting.
There is no Winston today to stop England from committing national suicide.
It’s astounding to me…..watching entire nations, even much of continents doing this TO THEMSELVES! I keep saying it’s like a mass blindness, or hypnotism has come over them. All through history, these things have only come to war, starvation, death, and desperation. This time it’s possibly going to be billions.
Like here in the U.S. people are finally waking up and fighting back against these progressives bringing the barbarians inside the gate. We must first remove the progressive enablers.
Drain that swamp!! Then, educate people in school (ALL the way through school), TRUE history. Courses in “women’s studies”?? What?? Courses or classes in “gender fluidity”? Remember the old ad…”A mind is a terrible thing to waste”? Although that was aimed at blacks particularly, it is true of all races, and both genders. Ooops. Is it “insensitive” of me to say there are only two genders?
Well, maybe on Tuesday afternoon, I’ll begin to see,
then I’ll be on my way. Then it won’t matter to me,
I’ll chase the clouds away.
Progtardery is simply Communism 2.0.
Progtardery! Yes!
Do you remember back when the US government used to worry about communist subversion? Or the UK conservative government passed Section 28 because it was worried that gays wanted to spread the love more widely.
Just imagine if the UK Prevent strategy was about preventing communist extremism from taking over the institutions of the land instead of just a partly manufactured war on terror
That was back when there was a stark difference between communism and…..whatever we have now. They needed a new boogeyman.
Terrorism is the new bogeyman. It’s documented very well in the Power of Nightmares.
Adam Curtis is a great documentary maker. His Century of the Self is indirectly a fantastic introduction to much that can be called cultural marxism, particularly the psychological / freudian side
Yeah I’ve been meaning to watch that one again. It was really a masterpiece on modern propaganda, which is everywhere.
me too, it’s about 4 hours long though
well it was easy to see the difference during the cold war. Now instead of their being communist agents trying to infiltrate the west the whole of communism has gone undercover and is having a go – very successfully I might add
The evil goals discussed above can be achieved through a variety of methods, be them communism, capitalism, fascism, libertarianism, etc. I’ll just pick one at random:
17) Soften school curriculum
Communism: Promote anti-individualism
Fascism: Teach everyone the state is the supreme power
Capitalism: Teach people that whatever produces a profit is good. Value the god of efficiency and money above everything
Libertarianism: Basically the same as capitalism, except do away with schooling for those who cannot pay for it, leaving a large ignorant class, or perhaps a big corporate conglomerate would (((fund))) schooling for this group.
The problem the west has it is sees everything as black or white. If you are “communist” you must be bad and “capitalist” you must be good. This allows those pulling the strings to use whatever method works to achieve their end. They care not how it is labeled, only that the end goals are achieved.
That’s true to an extent, because achieving / maintaining power may or may not have anything directly to with a specific type of ideology. I would say the communists / marxists and the left in general have taken the technology of subverting institutions and seizing power to a whole different level, but yes not all of those tactics / goals described above are exclusive to communism. On the other hand some of them may well be, and where they aren’t you’ve got well known similarities of form that both communism and fascism for instance may share (a focus on collectivism, the state, propaganda, ideology etc). The left though has generally been far in advance of fascism (not to mention the other ideologies you mention), particularly with regard to re-purposing institutions, subverting schools, education, media and discourse (fascism has nothing on the marxists in that regard however totalitarian their attempts may be). Likewise some of those goals are very intimately related to left / communist ideology. For instance gay rights, anti-family propaganda etc is highly compatible with marxism and notions of class struggle etc, but would not obviously be compatible with most forms of fascism (I am aware that many communist states have also frowned on gay rights etc, but not so obviously with regard to the west)
Finally, the article itself does mention the theory that there are big shadowy players working in the background, who may effectively be above or at least somewhat removed from any specific ideology, for instance by playing both sides (e.g. controlling the dialectic.). I think the important thing is to remember that ideologies mutate and adapt, and that is particularly the case if they do not represent the whole picture. Personally I believe communism is extremely important to most of those, including the elite who have supported it, but equally it may not necessarily everything they believe in. As such ideological systems are better seen as means to an end, where the end in question is not always (if ever) explicitly stated
See I don’t even take it to that level. When someone says “COMMUNIST” I don’t freak out and think they are talking about some anti-christ. There are positives and negatives to everything. I dated a Russian girl once and we were driving by an American factory and she said “Gosh! Why do you build your factories so close to the peoples homes!” And it was something that had never crossed my mind! Indeed why do we do that? Because it is cheaper for the factory owner to place his factory there, and that’s what we prioritize in our society.
Accepting that fact doesn’t mean I want to go live in North Korea, it just means I am a rational thoughtful human making an observation. I don’t care if something is marxist or communist or generates the most profits for its (((capital))). I don’t care what its ideology is. I care if its a good idea or a bad one.
If those running the world are free from ideology, cannot I also be free from the chains of ideology in discerning which ideas are good or bad? Anyway, life is such a changeable thing and rarely are the answers YES or NO. In other words there is a long chasm separating the wild west from an NSA spy state. I don’t want NO police or super secret police. I just want to be safe.
What do I care about? I care about families. I care about civilization. I care about happiness, and reproduction and gratification and fulfillment and safety and wisdom and laughing. I don’t know an ideology that achieves those goals. Following ideologies is a mistake. Being a Republican or a Socialist or a Vegan is a misdirection of your efforts. And I don’t want to live in a world that Republicans or Socialists or Vegans create, even if I agree with each of them on a few issues.
I quite agree with most of that. I used to be fairly left wing for those kinds of reasons. Recently during the UK election it struck me that Jeremy Corbyn was often quite good at getting his ideas across, and some of them seemed very reasonable – usually when they related to something to do with fairness or better working / living conditions. I would imagine in those things he’s perfectly sincere, and on that basis – some particular aspect of improving the world – I see no reason at all why provision alliance of some sort should not be made. It’s worth remembering though, that much of the objection to communism / marxism as an ideology is based on the idea is that the far left is often extremely adept at presenting itself in a softer light while harbouring far more extreme ideas, which often can only be understood as part of the wider programme (to change humanity / society). Moreover this lack of transparency in this regard relates not only to the ideology in question (which may or may not be salient) but to the fact that, as this article makes clear, the left adopts the general tactic of the means justifying the end: in practice even if Corbyn (or Sanders in America) is telling the truth about something, the ideology itself permits lying, and deception more generally, so one cannot always approach such thing on such a prima facie level.
There is too perhaps a ‘baby and the bathwater’ issue perhaps. It might well be possible to achieve some socialist goals (for better or worse) without necessarily becoming a fully socialist society, or to achieve a socialist society without it necessarily being part of a communist world state. The evidence at the moment though suggests any such extension of the benefit of the doubt might be rather misplaced: socialism has always tended towards the globalist, and internationalist.
I’d say both sides harbor more violent / dangerous secret ideas. The Mideast right now is in the midst of a violent right wing takeover, and their methods are quite shocking to even the most conservative of minds.
To those who would say ah yes, but us white skinned westerners are above all that primitive violence, I would merely point out the ease at which one can find right wing discussion of killing all gays, exterminating jews, and dropping people out of helicopters. This is the idle discussion we get in a modern liberal democracy where there is a very remote chance of anything like that happening–one can only imagine what they would be saying if they had a real shot at taking power. Hence why I do not want to live in a regime run by leftists or rightists.
I’m a big fan of the “third way” movements. Alain Soral of France is one of these (and has spent time on both the extreme left, extreme right, and the PUA movement, and has a lot of credibility in my mind). The closest thing we have to this in America is the Alt-Right and you will hear people like Spencer in agreement with “insane lefties!” like Bernie Sanders more often than not.
Of course it’s possible to have social ideas without becoming a fully socialist state. Just as it’s possible to bang a girl before marriage and still become a good father and husband one day. We don’t have to live in extremes.
As to the final point, if the trend towards the group and away from the individual is a natural tendency, I would simply posit that perhaps it is more beneficial to form a positive-group society than it is a totalitarian equalist feminist society. In other words something like what the Third Reich was for the Germans, without all its negatives towards non-Germans. If fighting for more atomist individualism is a lost cause and leads to democracy and degeneracy, perhaps the answer is a healthy, positive state, instead of a wild, aggressive oppressive one.
I do think 90% of the population is geared more towards being led than leading. The thing is right now we have the wrong leaders, and how do we replace them with the correct ones?
Most of the potential true difference makers do not seem interested in applying themselves to serving in that capacity so maybe a return to some form of monarchy with a Council of Lords or some such to choose the leader would be ideal. But again, how do we arrive at that place?
One thing I have observed is that rarely do things regress back once a line is crossed. Gay marriage will never become illegal again. Neither will abortions–the pro-life movement really needs to give that up. I used to work at the airport and I kept thinking “The TSA is insane.. it doesn’t do anything but harass people, harm tourism, and keep us from carrying things like liquor and souvenirs that we buy on vacation, meanwhile it misses 90% of the weapons when it tests itself, and foreigners fly here without ever being screened, so it can’t even stop the foreign terror that it was a solution for, and there are ways to circumvent the body scanners–surely it will go away with time.” But it won’t. It will only be expanded. Same with taxes– our governor here started a new tax without ever passing a law. Subsequent governors have all talked about removing the tax but of course none ever do, and they never will.
The answer is a return to a monarchy or something similar, but I cannot see how that will happen, unless some alien race lands on earth or something extreme like WW3 happens. There have been systems put in place since 1945 to ensure that does not happen.
“In other words something like what the Third Reich was for the Germans, without all its negatives towards non-Germans”
Yeah, what was with all that negativity mr hitler. I get where you’re coming from, and agree to a degree, but from our conversations in the past I imagine we are both aware that we reject extremes for the most part, even if we are not above hob-nobbing with ideas that might be outside “the consensus”, which arguably is a manufactured consensus to begin with. I am also a little more wary of arguing if you like from the threat extremism. Sure the middle east is going in a very dark direction right now, but as I think you’re probably aware by now I don’t think that was inevitable, at least not in the way that it is developing. The wahabists, ISIS and all the extremists exist and are able to terrorise the world because the war on terror was always useful to the west. I don’t want re-tread tired old ground but all the throwing gays off rooftops and threatening to exterminate jews is the kind of abomination that is useful for justifying the kind of posturing that the western leaders excel at. You’re right about the helicopter trips. Right wing (state) extremism is just as bad as that of leftist states and equally bankrupt, but if there is a third way to be found, a path that negotiates its way around the computer tennis back and forth towards the left or the right then it should not be determined as a response to war on terror fear-mongering or any other kind of routine risk management discourse. It’s not that the risks may not be very real, but that the risk economy functions quite independently of any genuine evaluation of risk and that’s something that perpetuates those things. To reiterate, these narratives are useful to the powers that be and that’s one very powerful reason why some of these despicable extremes are allowed to exist, and get – sometimes very – out of hand. And while I accept that sometimes concerning thoughts expressed sometimes do or can be actualised, whether in the form of a lone nut extremist, or the potentiating of a wider movement again, the left in particular has been far too ready to equate speech with action, an equivalence we need to step back from. Pewdiepie in today’s other article, clearly was talking about, or inciting ‘death to jews’ or whatever. What he was doing was playing with a taboo, and cocking a snoop at an establishment that depends heavily on anti-hate speech laws for the way it governs
Re. the rest I’m inclined. One can and should pick and choose ideas on the basis of merit. I don’t know that much about Sokal but he seems interesting. Spencer and Sanders are interesting contrasts. It is highly likely that it is these kinds of thinkers, who may defy easy categorisation (well, Bernie still a commie…) who are likely to be have increasing appeal …but only to the extent they can get to the nub of the matter, which is substantively is how power works
Slightly off-topic but related: What’s up with the insane white knighting of this cuck Fox News reporter… defending the honor of some widow of a lying assassin. Really, what’s the guy have to gain? The irony is at the end of the piece he admits everything Jesse said was true–no money was taken from the widow.
But even if it was–if you’re the multimillionaire widow of a lying assassin I have zero sympathy for you. This cuck reporter thinks Jesse Ventura should suffer humiliation because it might cause some suffering to a woman if he speaks the truth.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/26/a-fox-news-host-ambushed-jesse-ventura-about-his-american-sniper-lawsuit-it-got-ugly/?utm_term=.797b3036a809
I just got through wolfing down a piece of Hunt Brothers pizza, a can of BBQ flavored Vienna Sausage with a honey bun for dessert washed down with Mountain Dew, now I’m ready to hunt down and skin some commies, whose with me?
It’s too bad that never became a national sport of any significance.
I would have stayed after school to play that!
Mountain Dew? Ewwww….give me a crab juice.
right after that diabetic nap you have scheduled…
Well on Wednesday we usually have farfalle but my chef was unavailable today so I had to make do.
Let me just finish my bottle of scotch, shoot up some Kratom and mix up some vodka and steroids and I’ll join you wielding a xiphos.
Xiphos is good. Just dont go overboard on the vodka and cut yourself or anything.
This is true. Need to keep my wits about me.
Shall I bring my Ruger or my Noveske?
Never hurts to have a backup
Given the current state of affairs we should conclude the following pretext:
Cultural Marxism & communism infiltrated America and Europe but Conservatism & Capitalism infiltrated Russia and China.
Which means everybody lost and won the Cold War.
The grass is always redder…….
They screwsed up number 38. All behavioral problems re now seen as normal.
I don’t know if they screwed it up as much as they got something even more effective for their agenda.
Because it benefits the pharmaceutical companies.
Yuri Bezmenov (Ex-KGB) also goes on to say that, the only way to stop and reverse the demoralization and subversion of a Nation, is to strip the rights of the subversives.
You have to identify them and get rid of them; jail, deportation, execution, doesn’t matter.
You have to take away their microphones and loudspeakers, rip up their networks, hunt down their money trails.
Literally RATSO (rip all that sh*t out).
Only then can the corruption stop long enough for a generation of healing to begin.
“strip the rights of the subversives.”
OK great. and just who gets to decide who’s a subversive?
A guy like McCarthy, of course.
Exactly. I ain’t wit it.
Exactly.
It’s a slippery slope…but then, so is Cultural Marxism
I will! I will! Do I get to punish the hot female subversives? Just going to execute the ugly ones….
They came for the antifas, but I said nothing because I wasn’t an antifa.
They came for the feminists, but I said nothing because I wasn’t a feminist.
They came for the Jews, but I said nothing because I wasn’t a Jew.
And then they stopped coming for people, because life had gotten a hell of a lot better.
Damn this is good!
We don’t do that–we elevate them and promote them above everyone else’s voice. Just look at the crazy hood rats who schooled the PRESIDENT of Evergreen College. His voice means nothing. The feelings of those attending his institution of learning for free are all that matter.
Work them to death in Gulags or execution. That’s the only way.
Since these are rules of subversion, I would assume at least one of them is a falsely planted idea. What better way to get people to fight something than to place it on your enemy’s public wishlist?
If you have not read it, I would highly recommend “Witness” by Whitaker Chambers. He was pretty deep in the American CP and the one that exposed Alger Hiss.
Seems more like the blueprint of the 1% to crash great civilizations before they wise up to the tricks. By the time you’ve figured it out they’re already on to the next superpower.
Sure, nice article, but can we be more clear on the nomenclature of the problem we deal with?
Communism = Marxism = Talmudism = Zionism = Judaism = Satanism
When you understand the above fully, and truly recognize your enemy by their actions (not just their words), then you can readily call them by their surnames (regardless of how many times they have changed them) and stop using euphemisms. Start with the Rothschilds (originally Bauer??) and work your way down. Two bullets per head if you don’t have access to technology; heart attack triggering frequency generator if you do have the access. Approximately 3,000 corpses will free the planet for at least a few hundred years until the cycle begins again.
These aren’t “communist” goals, as authentic communism has been dead for decades. Rather, these are the goals of the capitalist elite who own almost all of the wealth in America. The fact that these items are loosely based on American interpretations of the USSR does not change who is actually implementing this shit.
My father warned me since childhood that this day was coming. Well, it’s here. Sadly, he was right. The way I see it, that Orwellian government already exists. They already have accomplished all their goals. They have total control of both parties, and complete control of the media, the church, the state, etc. The only problem at this point is that the elites don’t know what to do with it. They keep pushing for more, and there’s not much further we can go in terms of degenerative culture at this point.
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22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
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I had never seen this list before but it definitely explains what we’re seeing in our society. There was a 60 minutes episode years ago where Andy Rooney talks about all the uncreative and uninspiring art figures he’s been noticing in all of the major cities. None of them displaying any real talent. Just meaningless statues put in empty spaces.
Now we know why these are so abundant in our cities.
The whole list is fascinating in seeing how all of these things came true. And yet it angers me to the bone that we as a people have let this happen.
I bet that if you took my above points and showed them to others, they’d probably just shrug their shoulders as if to say, “So…what do you want me to do about it?”
These Commies have destroyed our culture and our society. And the citizens of Western society seem perfectly fine with it.
Sounds like a fake article by Conservatives to discredit any criticism.
Eat a dick you fucking loser. Bezmenov who defected from the Soviet Union as a former high ranking head in the KGB confirmed the above for all intents and purposes in interviews.
it’s already been proven on another thread that Gil G is a troll. Don’t feed the trolls.
I like the way you roll. Stay prepped, we’ll probably get our chance to off these mthrfkrs sooner rather then later. A Reckoning is coming.
Communism is more like “commitee-ism” as it’s in the best interest of the few that run the system. Say what you will, even a perverted capitalist (current) system is better than communism. You can work hard, and YOU HAVE a CHANCE at making something out of yourself, in communism you will be poor regardless.
I also find that lazy and/or uninspired people often gravitate towards communism, with the idea of all being equally wealthy, which is more like all being equally dirt poor. These same people are the least equipped to survive such living conditions.
Sadly, much like most comments I read here, no one takes communism serious until tens of millions of people are dead.
Watch this video if you want to make sense of the Bolshevik history that ties to this era: https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=rlWGK9WYpK0
There are only 12 views on this video… so watch it!!!
Watch this video to make sense of your current communist rendition: https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=3CHk_iJ8hWk
Thanks for linking my video of Goy World history that was on my channel, I just by coincidence read Return of Kings and the manosphere! Small world.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/583cdba8cb4edebf65c0ff980efff39229525e9145720ee4a9cd011ae4235c26.png
How I explain why I hold certain views that are deemed controversial and ones that come from “questionable” sources.
I hate Communists and Leftists. I would love to see all those motherfuckers hang for their countless crimes and if I had the ability to end their miserable, worthless lives, I would and very happily.
Don’t ask about the ethnicity of the ‘super rich investment bankers’ or you’re an evil nazi.
A simple Google search revealed this is a hoax:
http://www.snopes.com/history/document/communistrules.asp
C’mon ROK, you can do better than this.
No, it is not a hoax and “snopes” which is a marxist husband/wife couple who recently split up with millions (wow, I wished I would have started that site) and the husband is now with some has been porn star rarely tells the whole truth when it comes to matters they find dear to them. Typically anything anti leftists they will omit, dance around, or flat out lie about. Look deeper. This is a real article and it is on public record to be shown and discussed at Congress in 1963.
The thing is, none of this could have happened without the consent of our own elites. They are culpable, they aided this, this was their plan. And none of the Jewish supremacy could have happened without their consent as well.