A lot of men ask me what it was like to run game on American women over 15 years ago. While I don’t automatically take the nostalgic view that everything in the past was better than today, if you knew how to cold approach in 2001, you received significantly higher results than from the same effort in 2018.
Many men who tried game back then become addicted to it because of how effective it was, but today, a man in the bottom 50% who tries game is likely to quit within two years because of paltry gains, and then join one of many “say no to women” movements online. Here’s how game was different when I used it in 2001 at the age of 22 years old…
1. Boldness created greater attraction
Approaching a girl you didn’t know was so novel back then that if you did it, the girl would become extremely curious, even if you had a horrible opening line. Many would say how “confident” you were, a compliment that you rarely hear today. The boldness alone created such a huge spike of attraction that it was enough to propel you to at least a number or kiss as long you didn’t approach huge groups of girls in the Mystery style.
Nowadays, a girl is approached so often in different types of venues and on the internet that the most direct of openers may give you a minute of her attention (if that). What was bold 15 years ago is now the new standard today, suggesting that there is an arms race of game and status within any society that foolishly allows women to choose their sexual partners.
2. Rejections were softer
In the past, I can’t remember being punished for an approach as long as I didn’t do something stupid. The standard rejection was “Sorry I have to go back to my friends.” Another common one was a girl excusing herself to the bathroom but never returning. Getting rejected wasn’t fun but you got over it quickly.
Nowadays, girls with fragile egos have the intention of harshly rejecting men because it’s a way they can feel more beautiful than they really are. Since they cannot get a Persian Chad to commit to them, they will reject most men and rationalize that they are all “losers” instead of improving their own beauty or femininity. This is why you’re far more likely to get a harsh rejection from a girl in the 5-7 range than hotter ones who get pursued by higher quality men.
3. Night venues were more consistent
I could set my clock to a bar or club on certain nights. If it was good last Friday night, it would be good this Friday and also be good next Friday, making it easier to be a regular at a venue and get consistent rewards from it. I remember going to venues every week for a year and not seeing any drop in my return on investment.
Nowadays, venues experience fast churn-and-burn rates because of smartphones, which has allowed females to scratch their itch for always hitting “trendy” venues. Since girls stay in touch with their friends throughout the night, they are much more likely to leave a venue and go somewhere else that is good for the moment. It’s unlikely that a venue will give you high returns for more than a month or two, meaning that you must constantly try out new spots.
4. Girls were thinner
There were fat girls back in 2001, but they were rare enough that if you saw one you’d point her to your friend. Thin girls were in such abundance that you would judge faces more than bodies, and not get especially excited just because a girl wasn’t a land whale.
While there are enough thin women around in the big cities today, they get an overabundance of attention simply for not being overweight. Their beauty can meet your standard, but you may not meet theirs because they have come to expect courtship from the top 10% of men. It’s not uncommon for a thin girl in the 7 range to even get pursued by sports athletes. Once an athlete bangs her out, you will be excluded from having a reasonable chance of dating her in the future. Even butterfaces can get hotly pursued.
5. Contacting girls was more difficult
I would estimate that about 40% of girls had a cell phone in 2001. This meant that you often had to call landlines and get an answering machine. Sometimes you’d play phone tag for days, and with younger girls, it was common to call and have her parent pick up. Calling girls for the first time would be more nerve-racking if you were a game newbie, which meant you had to pump yourself up before making the call.
Nowadays, a monkey can text a girl with a basic script and get her out on a date, and there will be no doubt that she saw your text within a few minutes because of how attached girls have become to their phones. The bright spot is that if a girl is interested in you, it’s much easier to get her out on a date than in the past.
6. Conversations had fewer interruptions
When I approached a girl, I had her undivided attention to spit what I can now admit was poor game. I wasn’t cockblocked, I didn’t have to compete with her phone, and most importantly, she was capable of having a conversation with me where not every little thing I said was amazingly exciting or interesting.
Today, I’ll be lucky if I have a stretch of three minutes where she maintains her focus on me. More likely, I’ll get a “Hold on” while she messages friends who are on her way to the venue, and then her fat friends will intrude on the conversation and monitor me like I’m some sort of criminal, and then the bartender will cockblock me because he’s thirsty, and so on. The only way for a girl to zone all of that out is if she really likes you, which is not going to happen every night.
7. Girls had empty penis pipelines
Girls used to go out and have zero prospects in their pipeline. Because of that, they would not only show more interest in you but also follow through on dates with only minor flaking. It wasn’t uncommon for me to meet girls who hadn’t been laid in months.
Nowadays, not only do girls have full penis pipelines, but their bench is also full of backups waiting to get into the main rotation. Many girls simply don’t have any more room to get with a new guy. Even if you are slightly above her starting roster in value, she won’t be able to recognize it because all the cock in her life is putting her through a dizzy spell. To bang a girl today, you have to find a girl who recently lost one of her starting penises or wants to try something completely new.
8. Girls weren’t as sensitive
No topic was off limits. You could joke about gays, people of other races, and even throw out some sexist humor. The girls may not have laughed, but they didn’t get offended. You could recover from a bad joke and continue.
Nowadays, you can’t joke, especially in big cities. I repeat, you cannot joke. From the moment a girl wakes up, she’s braced to hear something offensive and will be triggered at the most banal of comments that suggest not every human being in the world is equal. You can’t even say “That’s gay” to something that’s obviously gay, and if you suggest that homos should not be able to marry, she may call the police on you. It’s clear now that male feminists were the early adopters to treating women as the sensitive children they want to be treated as.
9. Sex was more vanilla
I don’t remember having much porn star quality sex until the later half of the 2000’s. Most girls acted natural in bed and made basic noises and movements that were sufficient enough for me, a man who only needs a vagina attached to a normal body and pretty face to feel sexual pleasure.
Today, girls go overboard in trying to prove how sexy and dirty they are. Instead of giving me pleasure, I feel like I’m on a porno set where a fat Jewish man will yell “Cut!” any second. Their porno style takes me out of the moment and engages my logical brain into thinking why she’s acting in such a way with a man she has only known for a few hours. Maybe this girl can make me feel good, but only in a technical way.
Conclusion
While not everything was rosy in 2001, it was significantly better as a man who knew how to approach women. On every metric that matters, it was far easier to connect and sleep with them. It’s gotten so bad 17 years later that there are now semi-organized movements dedicated to foregoing contact with women altogether, and they seem to be growing.
Women don’t care about the grievances of normal men because they think they will hit the lottery and snag a high-value stud at the moment their career becomes everything they dreamed of. Though many women will lose this game, that gives normal men little condolence, and unfortunately I believe things will remain at the level we see today for many years to come.
This article was originally published on Roosh V.
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Sooner or later the state will go bankrupt from all the unfunded liabilities like social security and will no longer be able to enforce the will of the ugly hags and the accompanying white knights.
Sooner or later a real deep economic downturn should correct some of these issues of women and their incorrectly placed market value.
by the time that happpens america will be a third world. You have a lot of woman with “jobs” getting pain=d but with no production and every year you hire less man who think and can be creative and replace them with woman. Meanwhile in Indonesia, china,india even bangladesh and some parts of Africa man are still the technical workforce and all these countries are figuring out how things work.Result a lot of american companies are loosing market share in the world.Your female CEO and sstrategist are competing with companies run by man even if they are from third world countries they did not get their positionbecausae of their sex but worked for it and defeated competion while the amrican ceo got there because it was sweet to put a “go getter” with no experience.
“…are figuring out how things work…”
You included Hindustan & China in list of Countries that “are figuring out how…” !! Good luck @keith !!
well they still have a long way to go both of them but china is almost there and its meritocracy india has sections where feminism has not touched and know cant touch and companies coming from africa ,asia are creating productucts for their local market where as just ten yrs ago people used to buy same stuff made in EU,usa or japan.
India per capita GDP is $1,700
America is already third world and has been for a long time – take a drive though the hood – the only difference between the US and Mexico is the British exterminated the natives much better, so there is some semblance of civilization left, so they maintain better building codes and a little more law and order – aside from that – the poverty level in parts of the US and UK is on par with any third world. You just don’t see it often.
Ah! you incel boys really know nothing. The shareholders elect the Chairman or CEO. Of the Fortune 500 companies only 24 have a female in that position.
You think the shareholders are stupid? lol
Dont let your imagination run too wild. As a third world countryman I know that countries like china, india, indonesia or bangladesh will never reach the height USA reached. They work hard, but more likeky of worker bees gathering honey for the queen bee. At some point they will gather so much wealth that they will confused what to do with it. The only contry that knows the danger of that height is Japan, so they dont try global domination.
The best companies, universities and laboratories are in the US. In the worst case scenario, they will take one step back and end up somewhat like UK, germany or russia.
I see 3 large ones on the front right.
KKK cool down, you need only 49 couples to reach Proxima Centauri b:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.03856
It would be nice to fix it without destroying the better parts of society though. I’d like a culture that is good for men, while still having AC, sewer, running water and all the other good things necessary for civilization.
“Someday a real rain will come along…”
I think there is a mass global conspiracy by Black Jews that look like Steve Harvey, Congressman (D-MO) Emanuel Cleaver, Eric Holder and Barack Obama (who all look like Richard Pryor in some form) to takeover Amerika! Now am I being sarcastic or not?
I feel like I’m on a porno set where a fat Jewish man will yell “Cut!” any second.
Thanks for that kek.
It’s not the sex in front of people that’s the issue, it’s the professional voyeurs producing and filming the porno that’s disturbing… Talk about fucking ugly ass mofos and the very bottom of the cesspit level creepy scumbags you wouldn’t say boo to.
We should bring war home. Then you will only get genuine emotions.
Conflict brings the best and worst out of everyone at the same time.
That won’t change the basic hierarchy and structure of society. Incel losers like yourself will still only get the fugly dregs at the bottom. If that.
Ah, welcome back to the USA
Have Roosh V lived in Poland the latest years?
Why is the pic at the top what appears to be some weird gay nightclub??
I was wodnering what type of woman will ypou go for dressed like that!.
Even in the background there are no chicks to be seen, and the outfits are pretty gay. I think but can’t prove the pic is from a gay club in the 80’s or 90’s.
It is Toronto; that explains everything….
Ya’ll young bucks should give props to one of the progenitors of the PUA movement. Mystery was controversial but his little top hat / steampunk goggles game got many a pussy smashed hard.
Hell he invented the “peacocking” term / style basically. Which is wear outrageous shit that will get you noticed but have tight enough game to back it up.
This still works believe it or not, but wahmen are SO uptight these days you must be an absolute master now to pull it off. There are easier ways to pound your log into an axe wound than peacocking but back in the day it was novel and effective.
If you believe what the pua artists say they pulled I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn
Oh… Clown face originated from PUAs… Who knew?
Why so many downvotes. This is an astute observation. I agree, nowadays you must have high level master game to back up peacocking. Or just have semblance of status. Look at “artists” and “socialite” figures. Look at a post Malone or xxxtentacion, young thug, or even a Jared Leto.
These guys are practically in costumes (or drag) and even if they weren’t famous for their craft, they definitely would garner some attention from their aesthetics and styling.
Because there are two populations of people on this site now in large numbers.
1) Prog chicks, nu-males, soyboys, white knights, etc. that like to downvote because it makes them feel better about their misery.
and
2) Much more insidious- the “try hard” males who read this site and think if they act macho they ARE macho. Probably millenials, to a single one. Because they have no actual experience in the real world. They parrot shit they’ve seen on the interwebz to sound tough. Not a single one of them has ever been in a fight, know little about wahmen, and life in general.
IDGAF, because in both cases they are 100% part of the problem, it is white noise to me.
Totally agree with you on the white knights and prog chicks downvoting comments here.
But about those “try hard males who read this site”, I have yet to see a single soyboy behave even remotely macho. Have you actually seen one try to be macho and all that?
And if they somehow came to realize the value of masculinity, don’t you think they would be upvoting instead?
He’s always been a loser. Peacocking is just some bs he made up along with his other crap so that he could sell this nonsense to the naive incels. Looking like a clown will get you attention but it’s the wrong sort of attention. It’s of the ‘look at the freak’ variety. Females are conservative by nature and don’t like men who are too outré.
You want to give off a subtle aura of wealth and you don’t do this by wearing clown shoes.
The gay homo internet defense force has arrived here with their down votes. Must not have any gerbils to occupy their time.
That’s a collection of PUAs…. A ND it makes you really wonder the truth about game….. And the truth about human psychology that somehow paints over the butterfaces on people in a self respect preserving adaptation people have.
It’s mystery and Neill Strauss with crew
“Persian Chad”
I’m glad to see you are embracing this. I told you when you had your Starbucks meetup that if you started catching shit, –immediately– play the Middle Easterner / Muslim card. Flinging out accusations of rayciss! and bigotry, and religious intolerance at any shitlib in spitting distance.
Logic doesn’t work on these people, histrionics and weaponizing their own feelz against them works -wonders-. Likewise, in 2018 when the ‘other’ is the best thing there is and the white male is cis hetero scum you can work the Persian / MEastern / Muslim angle just for banging out dumb Americunts.
You are automatically interesting and different because all cultures are superior to Western culture. Maximally exploit this brah, it is a free pass on multiple levels.
Don’t hold your breath. Roosh doesn’t like fighting fire with fire.
Good article.
I tested online dating 10-12 years ago when I was around 22. It often lead to conversations and I met several girls during a short time. I didn’t click with everyone of them, but at least it was quite easy to meet the girl IRL soon after we had started talking on the dating site.
Nowadays when I test tinder or hotornot it is like looking for company on a cemetary. The women on the dating sites are only there to get attention from men (many of them have nose rings and tattoos too, which was not common 10 years ago). Any guy using online dating sites in 2018 is either desperate or don’t know how useless it is, but he will find out soon.
I was in a Walgreens Pharmacy today and all of the personnel in there were female and almost all of them had multiple facial nose lip cheek piercings. Some also had tats. Pity that though, a couple would have been solid sevens as they were not otherwise fat N nasty and had pleasant faces. The rest were fours at best.
Northwest US here, and yeah, lots of 3-4 pierced clown-hair chubby retail clerks. Son of a bitch, is it a mess.
Interesting insight Roosh.
I found this vid to have some interesting perspective on the matter
If you’re still dating American women, you’re either behind the times, or are located somewhere with no other options. There are a few ways you can go from here:
– If you live in an American metro, there are plenty of foreign women that will be the yin to your yang. Personally haven’t gamed or chatted up an American girl in years and I’ve been happy as a pig in shit.
– If you live in rural America, your choices are limited to the local populace, and depending on the quality of women, you may want to consider moving to a metro (not recommended) or to a more traditional town/village (recommended), or to another country altogether (highly recommended).
– If you live outside any Western dungpot, then you probably don’t have to deal with this issue, or have fled the West BECAUSE of this issue. For guys looking for a traditional women without an attitude/entitlement complex/tasteless tattoos, this will be the best route to achieving such.
Tats and piercings are so common and tasteless, it is uncommon to see unspoiled teen girls and rarer unspoilt mature adults.
Game is dead. Young men realize that setting the broken women of today as their goal is the stupidest mistake they could make. With the declining testosterone levels even the need for sex is declining too.
The more broken the women are, the more broken the society would be as the health of the off-spring depends almost entirely on the mother, evidently demonstrated in the growing number of sexual deviations.
I believe there never was any game, bitches went out with guys cause of the novelty of seeing guys approach them with confidence. Tinder & the overabundance of thirsty soyboys changed that.
It is true actually, they just enjoyed the new attention until they were presented with new options (read they got bored). Anyhow, this site dedicates them a lot of time and energy, which, I think, could be utilized better.
My philosophy regarding women is very simple – I just look at them as inferior men, who remain boys for the most part of their lives so I treat them in the same way an adult treats a child – with compassion and discipline.
I agree. The whole market changed around ’09/10 and progressively got worse.
Man 2001…….. What a great year
Yes, Jan. 20, 2009 to be precise.
The thing is, I would never think that living in 2001 was all that great a year at all! Now that I look back, I took the year 2001 for granted. At a Tim McGraw concert in 2001, 2 lesbians touched my ass! Those were the days man!
Society is going to hit the wall at full steam. It has already circled the bowl enough times to be ready for the final glurp.
It is so broken that it is beyond hope. Only a system collapse will be able to turn things back. A big wake up moment is needed and this will only come in the form of a war or system collapse. Sadly.
A while back my young cousine asked me for some dating advice. I gave the early teen some basic red pill insights, hoping to do my part of improving society by opening her eyes to the lies and deceptions spat out by the left, communists and feminists. Only time will tell if it worked or not. Her mother was a failure, both as parent and as human being. She divorce raped her husband and did worse than that. That momma is seriously nuts. She had a good husband with a good job but now she has a drug dealer down in some ghetto. I can trace this behavior back to the mommas momma, who already was a bit meshugge in her head, but not as seriously fked up as her daughter.
Lack of upbringing or bad upbringing will be passed down the generations and (oh surprise !) it will erode and destroy society pretty quick. The current generation who is in highshool right now, do you think they will be able to perform any meaningfull jobs to their country, when they quit school ? Hell, no ! Current society will hit the wall so hard, the USGS will be able to pick up the impact on some remote island in the pacific ocean !
I stopped chasing girls. I don’t reject a good ‘puss when the opportunity presents itself, but putting in all the time and effort to chase one ? No, thanks. That time can be spend better in so many ways. Even the hookers in germany have gotten worse. I am talking about the premium establishments that go 180$/hr, not your regular freelance or street hoe. Good lord I wouldn’t touch one of them ! I guess they got tired of all the beta dick they had to serve and lost all motivation. Seems they are now just getting by on antidepressiva and pot. Who wants to bang such a hoe ?
The phillipines started to get more appealing by the day lol. Too bad I only have just over 25 years before retirement … How is it going to look like in 10 years ? I have no idea ! Thinking about this is frightening !
Omg Roy, health and women…
Just noticed the female health secretary of Belgium 🙂
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Health+Minister+of+Belgium&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
She looks like that chick in Roissy’s viral post “Visualizing Omega”.
Regarding the nature of women 15 or so years ago I don’t think you could have said it any better, I started getting using game around 2004 when I was 17 and although I was quite shy I noticed that girls then were visibly happy with being talked to and someone showing interest, most women are entitled sluts with no self worth nowadays and whatever. And the act of fucking these sluts would have given my post traumatic stress in 2004
My days of game were 1990s Europe.
Good times. Long gone. Just clouds now.
Roosh forgot to factor in the variable of being aged 22 versus almost 40. It could be significant.
young man are facing same thing
Generally speaking it’s often a little harder to hook up with chicks when you’re in your teens and early 20’s. When most men get into their 40’s however those once hot chicks from your youth are pretty much begging to give you the pussy. It’s also easier today if you’re a man in your 40’s to bang these Millennial sluts because most of them want real men since their male counterparts aren’t really interested in pussy much.
These women aren’t going for broke men, mate. They see them as their beta bucks alternative in their dual mating strategy.
As long as these men in their 40s know what they’re getting themselves into (no pun intended), I say fine, enjoy the pussy!
Its not as easy when you’re pushing 40 and going bald…Even though I’m good looking, most young ladies don’t want to deal with a guy who is turning into Picard or Dr Phil (I have a long cranium so I use them as a comparison). I shaved it all off and my coworkers thought I looked like a NAZI. Anyone know where I can get a good hair restoration. I lift regularly, and that doesn’t seem to be bringing back my hair. I can curl 130 lbs, bench 350, so I doubt I have low T levels!
Get a Hair system instead of a hair transplant. Check out this channel on youtube called ‘HairExperience’ runned by Curtis. Best thing ever and the hairline looks great. Will take some effort but better than surgery which almost always looks bad
I gotta disagree with the conclusion, Roosh. Things will not remain the same for many years to come. It’s only downhill from here. Think about it.
We live in an era of #metoo, identity politics and this advancing globalist agenda of gender ideology and “fat pride”… men will have an ever decreasing pool of healthy straight women to go for, and those will be more selective than ever!
To add insult to injury, a new generation of soyboys will be pre-programmed not to approach women in any way. Game is going extinct, along with any socially acceptable way for men to approach women for that matter. Men’s natural behaviour is already branded as “toxic masculinity” by them left wing nutcases and this vision is championed by the mainstream media.
The end is pretty fucking nigh!
How much more downhill can we go? I think we’re getting close to the bottom.
Exactly . Other than killing for sexual pleasure we are at rock bottom
Bottom…We’re past that now! Someone is digging a trench.
I believe that girls in mid-size towns (not to mention smaller ones) would still be somewhat impressed by men going for it openly.
It’s going to be different in large cities where the trends land faster, international dicks are provided by plane and boat to allow for casual anonymous flings and where the most succesful ‘alphas’ gravitate to for studies and business. The level of fitness and game is not the same.
On the other hand, if you’re comfortably settled in one place (a larger city) a lot of the girls will be travel hungry and possibly already living abroad. Just had a situation like this last weekend where I opened a woman in a pub and after a while she claimed to live in another country (come to think of it, she had a ring too) and I naturally lost interest as I was away from my home turf as well and the chances of converting that to something would not be worth the effort.
You might figure out the logistics to extract a bang out of them but trying to get them into a relationship with any kind of stability and predictability is another matter.
You cannot really cash in on your gains in the woman department if the environment does not present you with opportunities; that’s very frustrating for men who have put in hard work to improve but are surrounded by women with low self-esteem and small cliques of people that keep them leased to their mediocre circle (small town problem).
It’s been a hard one for me to swallow but I guess a part of your self-improvement is knowing your own limits and understanding that you cannot turn a lost cause into a success; a dead lead should not be followed.
Many kinds of environments provide men with such dead leads and all have their advantages and disadvantages based on your station in life and your desires.
I can confirm that the 90s and early 00s were a great time for a guy with balls to consistently pick up attractive women. I’m happily married to an attractive woman of eastern European background, but even I can tell things have massively changed. Now would not be a good time to be a young man..
I’m currently on vacation in Byron Bay Australia. It is a beautiful town, but my god.. If you see a woman without tatts and a nose ring, she is definutely an outlier. These girls are so obviously mentally unwell, and never seem to go longer than two minutes without checking their phones. I’m starting to understand why I see so many soy boy young men walking around with that defeated look on their faces. Millennial women aren’t even girlfriend material let alone wife material..
And so many have been pounded by black cock, their pussies are stretched out beyond belief and there are probably micro-sized white eggs growing on her trimmed patch of pussy hair or on the clitoris or vulva itself.
Back in the 90’s and the first half of the 00’s, there were many tight young white pussies that would wrap itself perfectly around a human beings (not black) penis.
So, in actuality, not only have blacks destroyed cities and suburbs with violent crime, drugs, they have penetrated and destroyed almost all the white vaginas in those cities and suburbs as well. I remember white women 10-15 years ago who would call the cops if a black guy came near her. If it was prior to 1998 or so, most blacks wouldn’t be seen talking to white women unless they knew it was ok.
Saw three blacks propositioning a young white woman at a restaurant back around 1993, 1994. She looked nervous and unhappy…The owner (and father of the woman) of the restaurant, while I was eating, jumped over the counter with a shotgun (I’m not kidding)! Those groids took off faster then that chicken in the training scene of Rocky 1.
Thanks yall for confirming my suspicions. Gunna go hang myself now. 👍
Whenever i approach women at Daygaming i notice more and more that they are not excited/ nervous/ impressed or shy anymore.(like they used to be some years ago) It gets fucking hard to create attraction..They dont ask any questions and they dont contribute to the conversation.
It really seems they can have 20 other dicks per day by using dating apps.
They do all this special crap for blacks, fatties and LGBT’s, I think its long past time they give straight white males with long faces more preferential treatment. ‘White Males with Long Faces’ is a growing minority that should be the only group in the world allowed to date and bang 8’s and 9’s by law.
I think there is a mass, global conspiracy by Richard Pryor looking Black Edomites to destroy ‘Western’ Civilization. Think Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO), Steve Harvey, Eric Holder, and Barack Obama. Now, am I being sarcastic, half-assing it, or am I being serious?
You can think of those Barry Obama’s or Eric Holder’s as a turnedkey…Once they’re (George Soros) done with them, they throw the old keys out and start fresh. I’m still trying to figure out if Trump is a turnedkey. With all the pent up anger in the media aimed at this guy, I’m thinking he has a set of his own keys but uses theirs when it so suits him.
Another thing, if anyone knew the secret (not so secret anymore) life of Richard Pryor back then, they would find out that he lived like Caligula on steroids. The guy raped probably thousands of white women…Made Bill Cosby out to look as innocent as Big Bird in comparison. Absolute scum! The guy looked like he had some serious AIDS by the late 1980’s. He was a racist, little mustachioed idiot!
Uhmmm no to many of the points.
Sounds like you weren’t there at the time, or not privvy to what was going on.
Yes sluttery may have been less prevalent, or maybe not as it seems millenials have less sex.
The 90s were no different either.
What’s with the accompanying photo with this article?
Maybe if I get myself a top hat and a pleather jacket maybe I can be a player just like Y’all
I am older than you and amicably divorced with kids, I still Joke about whatever I want and yes, it weeds out some women but others find it refreshing and it gives you an edge over other men who are too afraid to push the boundaries. You can also differentiate yourself with a bit of comfort game, especially in your age that women are looking for serious partner, they do get disappointed in some stage but who cares and if you play your game right they just become plates. I don’t bother with cold approach any more, just plays number game on the various apps, it is a bit boring but it gives me the results.
What 5ucktart calls himself Roosh?