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Our Call To Boycott Mad Max Movie Spurs Avalanche Of Mainstream Media Anger

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On May 11 we published Why You Should Not Go See “Mad Max: Feminist Road” by Aaron Clarey. Since then, dozens of media outlets including CNN, Vice, The Guardian, and Huffington Post have attempted to denounce Clarey’s article with snark, feminist logic, and adolescent insults.

Clarey’s concerns about Mad Max should be nothing new to ROK readers. Here are two excerpts:

Fury Road was not going to be a movie made for men. It was going to be a feminist piece of propaganda posing as a guy flick.

 

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So do yourself and all men across the world a favor. Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. Not all of them have the keen eye we do here at ROK. And most will be taken in by fire tornadoes and explosions. Because if they sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.

The article, now with over 3,400 comments, has not blown up organically through social networking, like our previous viral articles, but through deliberate and simultaneous promotion in the Anglosphere media. The articles claim we’re wrong to complain about how Hollywood has been co-opted by feminist ideals and is actively using movies and other media as vehicles to program impressionable young people around the world to incorrectly believe that women are physically and mentally equal to men, if not outright superior.

Here’s a selection of the more than 25 articles that were written (mostly by women):

Men’s rights activists call for boycott of ‘Mad Max: Fury Road,’ citing feminist agenda (CNN)

The blog the post is published on is known for trolling feminists. Its “about” page, for example, says, “Women and homosexuals are prohibited from commenting here. They will be immediately banned.” The article has received more than 2,000 comments. One commenter wrote, “Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.”

Men’s Rights Activists Don’t Want You To See ‘Mad Max’ (Huffington Post)

Mens rights activists have given you another reason to get excited to see “Mad Max: Fury Road.” On a blog called Return of Kings, Aaron Clarey asks men to boycott the film because of all the feminist propaganda. Cool, bro.

Mad men mad at Mad Max for having mad women (AV Club)

Despite Clarey’s warnings about these feminist morays, burrowing in the sands of our action movies and eating all our masculinity and cuttlefish, Fury Road is projected to make around $40 million in its opening weekend. And if that happens, someday, some movies may not even be about men at all.

The ‘man-o-sphere’ is outraged about Mad Max? Hand me my popcorn! (Guardian)

Clarey is proposing that the man-o-sphere boycott the film. Which is all the more reason to go, get a large popcorn, satisfied in the knowledge that it’s salted with reactionary tears.

Why men’s rights activists hate Mad Max: Fury Road (Telegraph)

Clarey’s feelings of betrayal are shared by his commenters. One, who uses the commenting alias of “truth”, wrote: “Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.”

‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ draws the ire of men’s rights activists (Daily Dot)

It must be said that Mad Max isn’t without its faults; Clarey rightly pointed out that Ensler isn’t exactly the best person to represent sexual enslavement in the Congo. And the film has already come under fire for allegedly having only one non-white actor in the entire movie, despite being filmed on location in Namibia.

This Guy Wants You to Boycott ‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ Because He Doesn’t Like Feminism (Vice)

I reached out to Clarey—who also runs a blog called Captain Capitalism—via email with some questions about the boycott, Charlize Theron’s mechanical arm, and whether or not explosions were gendered. His initial response was, “You want to get rid of the snark/fake questions and then I’ll take you seriously?” Which, fine. Asking if a robot arm is gendered is at least light trolling.

There was a lone favorable article: Why ‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ is the feminist picture of the year (NY Post).

What should struck you is how similar the articles are to each other. The media we have is one full of “journalists” who essentially plagiarize each other without adding any additional reporting or value. If you read one of the above articles, you’ve read them all.

Even though we were incorrectly identified as a men’s rights site, the idea that Hollywood is spreading feminist propaganda has for the first time reached the ossified brains of over one million new people this week, perhaps more. Most of these individuals will never allow themselves to accept how unnatural and phony it is to have female heroes who are as strong as men, but a few of them will encounter another movie in the future that portrays women as so comically masculine that they can’t help but remember the site with the word Kings in the title that described that very phenomenon. Once these individuals reject the existing narrative, they already know where to go for more answers. (They are encouraged to start here: Top 35 Most Important Articles On ROK.)

In the end, I wanted to thank all the talentless media typists for taking the time to spread the word about our message. I have no doubt that many men are relieved to have encountered it.

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1,486 thoughts on “Our Call To Boycott Mad Max Movie Spurs Avalanche Of Mainstream Media Anger”

  1. “The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
    Female typists dislike criticism. Proceed to link the shit out of the ROK article, spreading its message to every corner of cyberspace.

    1. I was sort of thinking that too. They sought this angle for publicity. Since logic dictates that it was an inevitable natural reaction, it’s good to know it came from a natural genuine source like the intent of this site.
      However, to be sure, the Streisand Effect is not absolute and can backfire. A number of NBC gaffes come to mind. My point being that such a publicity angle presumes the outcome can be controlled. That isn’t necessarily the case. People can applaud the tons of special effects and still walk away knowing exactly what this was.
      The film very well could become an iconic eponym of this SJW trope in our time. It would serve to colligate and repeat this observation with that of every other such movie.
      That is, when you generally typify an SJW method as feminist movies, you borrow passe terms that have to suffer dispute into what is an isnt feminism, because feminism is deliberately a muddled term, as the left muddles terms deliberately to confound and promote controversy to keep the discussions going. Doing so gives them oxygen and a counter point to bounce off of. As they say of wrestling pigs in the mud, you eventually realize the pig is enjoying it.
      But if a trope is given a new name, a neologism authored by a specifically opposing view, the new word advertises an unequivocal new idea. Perhaps a term to define such could emerge from critical typification of this film and blatantly coin a lucid category for such propaganda that henceforth these films can be readily identified and prevented; more accurately be immediately revealed for what they are upon release.
      I know it’s convoluted, but such is strategy. God knows its been used against us often enough.

      2. The way to un-muddle the term “feminism” is to recognize that it is a form of organized bigotry, like the Nazis or the KKK. And if the Vagina Monologues creator was consulted for the film, then this is definitely a feminist film.

    2. Perhaps we are the only ones to notice the double standard.
      Holding feminists to account for their hypocrisy is now called “trolling”.
      But women holding men to account for any actions they deem inappropriate is being a “strong independent woman”. (which, along with ‘foodie’, is one of my most hated terms).

    3. ROK has won simply by stating, wide and far, what has largely been censored – the fact that feminist propaganda is pushed in the mainstream media.

    5. That same old cliched adage “No publicity is bad publicity” born out time and again.

  2. The fact that they jeeringly refer this website as a “pick up artist” or “men’s rights activist” portal shows just how much they slander any story to suit their narrative, and how woefully out of touch they are with truth and reality.
    True there is a strong representation of those two things here, but it’s primarily a space for men to take life by the horns and be the best of who they can be, and to learn how to sift through the bullshit of women and life in general.
    But like they say, any news is good news (for the sake of added exposure). That’s awesome, and good work Clarey!

  3. As a beloved web radio host likes to say:
    “When you start taking a lot of fire, you know you’re over the target.”

  4. Well done to ROK and captain capitalism for popping the MSM’s ideological hymen on this issue. A seed has been consensually planted in the big vagina- like echo chamber of corrupt journalism

  5. Good. They carelessly throw around phrases like “rape”, “MRA”, and “PUA” as it suits their needs. It validates our positions. Look at how many broads frequently troll this site, and troll it hard. We even have broads posting as male sockpuppets and males posing as female sockpuppets (God help those males) Why would they do that if they did not care or it did not bother them? How many men troll the sites geared towards females? Nill. How many real men go to a female site and go tit for tat back and forth like a dummy? Nill. Because we already know what they are about. They come here because they are angry they are being called out, they know we are right, and that changes are in the making. An awakening is occurring and the modern age is making it easier to get the word out.

    1. I’m not so sure Bryan Cranston would appreciate you using his all time bad ass character as an avatar to spread garbage all around cyber space.

        8. Not black asshole but you assumed I was because you needed that crutch as the foundation of your nonexistent argument. You’ve departed from the realm of rational discourse a few posts up, brah. Have you figured out that Bryan Cranston is an actor and Walter White is a fictional character, yet?

        9. I already told you that I was privy to that info. And do everyone a favor and speak fucking English on the Internet. Thanks.

        10. Your father should have done the world a favor and pulled out of your mother’s putrid vagina. Get fucked hillbilly.

        11. Am I a hillbilly or a Marxist liberal? Hmm so many choices, so little time.

        18. Dude, homo? Really? He’s racist, you’re homophobic, it’s just a hate factory in here. Jesus.

        19. Nothing wrong with hating homosexuals if you’re wanting to. Tolerance is a facist mind control tool for the Sjws.

        21. If you’re harboring homosexual feelings that you feel the need to express through this sort of mockery, you’re not alone. Many people have dealt with there own homosexuality in this way, and have found forgiveness and peace upon admitting their true feelings. It’s not just OK to be gay, it’s a natural state of being into which you were born.

        1. If Jesus was alive and read the Inter webs, he’d be chain smoking, no doubt.

        3. Jesus is synonymous with mockery. Brian Cranston probably would not appreciate having his face plastered all over men’s hate speech sites.

        1. I dare you to attempt to contact Cranston and substiante or refute my claim.

        2. I dare you to use that thing above your neck, and between your ears. I dare ya.

        3. Yes, I’m sure the man who played the character of a murdering meth dealing sociopath would have a big problem with someone using that likeliness on ROK.
          Maybe dig up James Gandolfini while you’re at it. I heard someone with different views than you was using Tony Soprano as their avatar.

        6. No I don’t know him personally. But it’s well known that he’s left leaning and would laugh at you jerk offs.

    2. We welcome all females to ROK, please feel free to brows around and learn a thing or two. Roosh, you may need to expand the site and add a few helpful links for cooking, cleaning, ironing, gardening, sewing and childbirth so these lovely lasses can learn to be useful in society again, instead of sitting on their phones regurgitating the lies the Cultural Marxists have filled their dear little heads with.

        4. Don’t know, what happens when you try it with a cock rammed down your throat?

        6. I don’t know, what happens when you try when there’s a cock rammed down your throat?

      2. Don’t ask them to take time out from posting selfies dude, how else will they get their validation via their Likes from Beta Schmucktown and Manginaville?

      3. I’ve been quite enjoying this site. Had a very interesting chat with husband about it yesterday. He and I both find most really loud feminists to frankly be over-aggressive and overcompensatory. Reading the other point of view is intriguing and refreshing, because I don’t cleave to ideologies for ideology’s sake.
        Of course there’s also pretty offensive stuff here, but that’s just my perspective, and from the same perspective, stuff on Jezebel or whatever else also has me facepalm hard enough to potentially concuss myself.
        There are some utterly superlative articles I WISH my supposedly open-minded ardently feminist friends would read here. I know they won’t, because they remain very much too locked into their ideology and where it informs their identities to dare venture where they might see something unflattering.
        So keep on keeping on if you want non-troll females to occasionally peruse. No offense, but there’s so many sites dedicated to the ‘feminine’ pursuits you mentioned that I doubt you could give them full attention. 😉
        .. and most are populated by terrifying granola moms, self-important menopausal gourmets, terrifying retired knitters or DIYers, or worse. You don’t want to get mixed up with those hell’s grannies.
        edit – I’m tongue in cheek to a large degree there, though battle-axe oldschool feminists annoy me, tbh.
        This site has a lot of men being honest from a very male stance and in this day and age of self censorship, it’s educational for a woman to see that, because ironically, a LOT of your opinions (plural) are ones I share!
        — as for the article itself. Mountain out of molehill to me, but I also think that Tina Turner in 27lb of chainmail is fucking epic. 😉

        1. Kind of interesting you’re terrified of the old gals. They could probably teach you a thing or two. Personally, I enjoy talking with them on line and in person. They have more skill, wisdom, compassionate attitude – not to mention – class, than your generation ever will.

        2. Hah, I was being facetious. I sew for fun, cook for pleasure, garden when it suits me (just put in another climbing white rose), raise my toddler, and work on revising the PhD I’m defending later this year. I clean the house as much as my husband does, and we share cooking for the family. I do dinners, he enjoys making pancakes etc for breakfasts. I have a distaste for buying anything I could potentially build or make myself that comes of being raised by a scientist on a farm. If I can whittle it, sew it, or solder it, I will. And enjoy doing so!
          The kind of gardeners and such my mum associates with are also card-carrying hardline feminists in my experience. They can be a bit loud. /shrugs
          I admit i find over the top granola hippy moms a bit much. I gave birth vaginally and breastfed, but it didn’t somehow make my life as a woman suddenly worthwhile. Many many other things make my life worth living – I’m not defined by my uterus, thanks. For many of them, birth and motherhood are downright orgasmic, and they spurn men unless they’re babywearing vegans.

        3. I came across the Jezebel site the other day on some odd mother’s day article.
          It was odd to see five more articles describing motherhood as such a horror on a day to celebrate it.
          From what I can tell, feminists view pregnancy as a disease, stopping just short of viewing muliebrity itself as a handicap.
          I am unequal in several ways to various ideals set for me. So I try to excel in what I am. I feel the first error in premise is the idea that if we do not equal something else or have subordinate expectations, then inferior social roles make us inferior beings.
          It totally discounts the reality that we are just as eminently important when we embrace our social expectations in concert with the world around us rather than in spite of it.
          Along comes egalitarianism to foster and promote unnatural resentment among the individual to make them an enemy to their own society, appealing to ego and distorting reality.
          Certain patterns are obvious among what is loosely considered the left. Appeals to people with inferior standing socially to incite unrealistic views and resentment, then herding them together to promote socially degenerative ideas, and getting their vote and money in the process. None, not even their wards are benefited by this.
          The theme is always appealing to social inferiors, those with lesser social standing, depicting it as unjust, defying normal healthy social function and setting unrealistic goals.
          In short, creating a lobby to herd the mad. We now have a system that promotes insanity for the very purposes of aggregating the insane to influence society, and should expect nothing short of the logical outcome of doing so.

        4. “From what I can tell, feminists view pregnancy as a disease, stopping just short of viewing muliebrity itself as a handicap.”
          Bingo. Their idea is to have women see this blessing – a beautiful child – as a curse. That way they can weaken their marriages, and hopefully destroy them.
          Misery loves company.

        5. One fascinating element about modern feminism which is utterly self-defeating is how it actually often screws up the very principles it espouses.
          Women seeking to become the equals of men often become something like hyper-males. They speak more loudly, become more aggressive, become more sexually active, and try to basically be more male than males.
          It’s no better an answer in my estimation than the old barefoot and prego in the kitchen silliness.
          Women can offer a great deal, but not if we’re just trying to be louder men.
          There is inarguably a role for women intellectually and professionally and creatively. But it’s not in being shoddy men. I’ve always been inspired by Heinlein’s women, myself. They can be brilliant without eschewing the feminine.
          “All humans are created unequal. You are bigger and stronger than Pop; I am bigger and stronger than Hilda. I have the least years of experience; Pop has the most. Pop is a super-genius…but he concentrates so hard that he forgets to eat…unless he has a nursemaid to watch him—as Mama did, as I did, as Hilda now does. You, sir, are the all-around most competent man I’ve ever met, whether driving a duo, or dancing, or telling outrageous tales. Three of us have eight or nine earned degrees…but Aunt Hilda with none is a walking encyclopedia from insatiable curiosity and extraordinary memory. We two are baby factories and you two are not—but two men can impregnate fifty women—or five hundred. There is no end to the ways that we four are unequal. ” – Number of the Beast
          Says it all really.

        8. Heh, sorry! It’s one of the things I find so annoying about the women I know who are nuts about babies. It never seems to be about more than fulfilling some strange ego-trip in which their reproduction overshadows their self-respect. This mammoth of a woman at one pro-kids meeting I attended from curiosity sticks in my mind. Six children, prehistoric fertility goddess figure, and casually popping vast pendulous tits out to suckle during the meal. Her partner a skinny dude with white-man-dreads and a hemp necklace.
          I just can’t really ever find a shared worldview there.
          .. sorry if I put you off your dinner.
          /offers single malt?

        10. Where the fuck do you find these kinds of people?
          Hippy families where the mom loves her reproductive abilities and pops out kids all the time and dad is a skinny white dude with dreads and a hemp necklace?
          Maybe you are from california or something. The only time I can ever remember coming close to seeing these kinds of people was when I attended a very affluent charismatic church about 12 yrs ago.
          I stopped going when I realized everyone was some kind of fruity faggot.

        12. Ontario, Canada. I was having trouble with nursing so I attended a single La Leche League meeting, gods help me.
          It was… erm.. freaky.

        13. We’ll have to agree to disagree. I prefer Thunderdome to the rest.
          Road Warrior lost me with the assless chap wearing biker dudes screaming with rage for some reason known only to themselves, with their effete blonde boytois mutely watching, all of whose hair is startling well dyed and maintained for a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
          The original lost me with the bare chested thin tie guy… and the fact it took almost the whole damn movie for Max to lose his shit. Come on, it’s MAD Max, we KNOW he’s going to get hurt and need to take revenge, so could we skip all the scenes of how sweet his wife and child are and cut to the chase? We know they’re going to die. It’s predictable like the sun rising.
          Thunderdome had Dr. Dealgood’s delicious intro, Pigkiller’s mangled quotation of Buckaroo Banzai, and an inexplicable blind sax player.
          Matter of taste really.

        14. The only articles or comments which merited eyetwitches were the now deleted comments by that guy espousing beating his daughter so she’d never dare think herself able to be worth anything, and those with a bit too many generalizations based on ethnicity. I find the idea of violently punishing someone based on gender to be abhorrent – male or female. I’d condemn someone harming women just as I loudly condemn hypocritical women who harm men.
          Even the really misogynist ‘all women are wastes of skin’ comments I can shrug off, since I imagine the men saying those things have probably been primarily espoused to entitled, whiny, or generally obnoxious women.
          There’s a lot of women like that, I have to agree. I of course don’t share blanket statements denigrating my gender, because hey, I don’t hate myself, but I can hazard a guess where some of the frustration is coming from, and I do certainly empathize with the frustration.
          Hells, I’ve been accused of aiding ‘rape culture’ (/eyeroll) because I tout the rule of law and ideas of innocent until proven guilty when a man is accused of sexual assault. Fuck the mob mentality of raving feminists willing to ruin a man because someone might have a grudge. Press charges and test it in court if something awful happened, and if you don’t trust the justice system, learn about it, educate yourself, and fight to reform it, because mob rule is crap.
          I definitely get the frustration! 🙂
          Don’t care for the opinions that espouse all women needing to be beaten/humbled/reduced in some way though. The problems at the root of entitlement are a lot deeper, and violence doesn’t make men or women better people. You won’t get better by cutting down others – a thing a lot of feminists still need to internalize. A lot of them just want to replicate whatever makes them feel small on men, just as emotionally, physically, or psychologically abusive people tend to take out their own insecurities on their victims. It’s not an answer.

        15. ‘It’s no better an answer in my estimation than the old barefoot and prego in the kitchen silliness.Women can offer a great deal, but not if we’re just trying to be louder men.’ – I believe that you are very close to being on to something here. It is completely absurd and ultimately damaging to suggest that there is a right or wrong way to be female. Absolutely requiring women to be uneducated barefoot baby factories is large scale cultural abuse. Absolutely requiring that women resemble ‘louder men’ as you put is is equally problematic. I would like to put forward, that the modern age feminist agrees with this concept whole heartedly. The next generation of feminists are interested in preserving each individuals right to choose who they are, and how they will live their lives. The quotation you included asserts that no two people are alike, so then one cannot prescribe identities to all women, or all men for that matter, without robbing the lions share of those included of their identity. America is a nation that values rugged individualism, and it is precisely that which Feminism seeks to defend. There is a lot of negative misinformation out there, but, I suggest you reconsider your camp on this issue.

        16. Utter parrotology. Feminism seeks all manner of special dispensations…reduced standards, just because you don’t have a penis.

        17. “The only articles or comments which merited eyetwitches were the now
          deleted comments by that guy espousing beating his daughter so she’d
          never dare think herself able to be worth anything,,,”
          I remember reading that same comment by that individual.. but it was so over the top, extreme and offensive that it was obvious that individual was a troll trying to discredit this site and the men here.

        19. The biggest problem here being that in their pursuit of equality, of being able to ‘choose their own destiny’, they have lost sight of the fact that NO ONE chooses their own destiny. They do the job men cannot because in virtually every other case they cannot compete with men… and then, in order to maintain the surface veneer of equality, they create all manner of excuses or tilt the playing field.
          If you want equality, prove you are equal. That means you TAKE that equality rather than whining and crying and coaxing and manipulating men to give it to you. You accomplish more physical work than any other man on an oil-drilling rig. You join seal team 6 using the MEN’s PRT requirements. You go to bars and beat the hell out of men your own size, while not allowing anyone to constrain them from punishing you in return. You create a great indy game (99% of all female indy games suck) with amazing graphics, outstanding gameplay, and no bugs that is every bit as successful as minecraft or world of goo. You cannot claim that females are ‘biased against’ in the indy games industry, because most users have NO clue what the faces of indy developers look like, or what sex they happen to be. There is no ‘networking’ for indy game development like there is for AAA, unless you (like Zoe Quinn) decide to fuck your way through the video game reviewers for good reviews, and even with that rather extreme measure, a bad game will STILL flop on it’s own merits.
          The simple fact is, You are INFERIOR to men in every way save for those things which you PROVE you are as good at or better than other men, On an empty playing field. No affirmative action, no tight sweaters and fluttering your eyelashes at a manager, You beat men at THEIR OWN GAME and you will be respected as a man.
          Until you can beat a man in the world HE has created for YOU, get on your back and pray for a boy.
          I RESPECT Ursula K. LeGuinn and Andre Norton. Why? Because they were WORTHY of respect for creating great scifi in a market where gender meant less than Amazing writing and Men were the dominant force. women that scream endlessly for ‘equality’ rather than seizing it with their own two hands and proving that they are equal by dint of hard labor and talent are beneath contempt.

        20. I will admit that I have frequently beaten women before, but I am deeply involved in the BDSM community. I have yet to meet a woman, even the many I have dated outside of the community, who was not deeply satisfied by being physically dominated by a powerful lover.
          Considering how many women enjoy riding the edge of being ‘taken’ by a ‘mighty thewed warrior’, I think that yes means yes laws will harm women a thousand times worse than men. we don’t give a fuck if we have to ask a stupid question a dozen times while we are pumping our cock into a sloot… but her? she will be utterly destroyed by having her headspace constantly violated by incessant and pedantic questions.
          I have said it before and I will say it again… Feminists hate women far more than they hate men.

        21. what self respect? what do women have to be respected for, other than their ability to create an entrely new human life? what job or societal fullfilment is more important than the godlike job of bringing an entirely new intelligent, living, breathing being into this world?
          Feminists hate women far more than they hate men.

        22. The faggots were supposed to bring home how villainous and morally bankrupt the ‘bad guys’ were.

        23. reduced standards, so that it can put women directly into competition with men, where they will inevitably fail. It shows a deep-seated misogyny present in every feminist.

        24. Is the average woman physically stronger than the average man? No. Does that matter in terms of equality in a world where physical strength has become all but meaningless? NO. I’m not in game design, I’m an AD & editor in LA. I’m working on a feature film now, which I took off of a male editor who had been unable to finish the job. In fact, his faulty technical understanding of digital codecs made all of his work completely unusable. We’re about a week from completion now. Women aren’t asking for anything more than an even playing field to prove their worth, but we prevail often even with out it. I’m sorry you feel that you can’t choose your own destiny. I have been relatively able to choose mine, as every one should have the right to at least attempt.

        25. You seem to think that men get a pass for being on ‘team dick’, and you are too narrowly focussed on your own perceived injustice to realize that men are a hundred, a THOUSAND times more critical of other men than women are. You look at men at the ‘apex’ and assume that that means that they didn’t stomp on, and destroy the lives of, every other man on their way up.
          if men dislike each other intensely enough, they KILL each other. In fact, men are literally so incredibly hard on each other, so opposite the concept of ‘team dick’ that you project onto them, that we have literally created millenia of customs JUST to avoid killing each other. concepts such as Honor, Valor, Faith, Fair Play, sportsmanship, and even the basic precepts of civilization itself exist as a means for men to not compete with each other TO THE DEATH.
          You want to compete with men? You have two choices. You can either adopt the rules we have created to avoid killing each other, rules which automatically preclude you from equality (what you term patriarchy) Or you go in the deep end and risk death to compete with the rest of us.
          The insistence on ‘laws’ and ‘rights’ to ‘level the playing field’ automatically assumes that you are basically inferior. How can you even pretend to possess self-respect if you are unable to compete without an artificial framework (provided by men, of course) that either artificially boost you to their level, or artificially cripples them to yours?
          You claim that there is an epidemic of ‘rape’ on Campus. Why isn’t there an epidemic of men raping men? Obviously, some men are stronger than others… Thus, just as obviously smaller, weaker men should be in just as much danger of getting raped as women.
          The reason? because men are physically and emotionally capable of protecting themselves. claiming that rape on campus is men-on-women assumes that women are incapable of protecting themselves. they need to ‘be protected’, and are thus, inferior.
          If women were as capable of being CEO’s as men, then why aren’t there just as many women CEO’s as men? Men compete with each other… there is absolutely NO reason to ‘exclude’ a woman, especially if she an ‘easy target’ for competition. Obviously, if you were not inferior, you could TAKE those CEO positions, and no man would be able to stop you. It’s not like they are hitting you with a club for working hard.
          Frankly, it all comes down to one indisputable fact… without artificial frameworks to ‘force’ equality, nature simply proves, again and again, that men are superior.

        26. I don’t disagree with any of your points. I also don’t really position myself in any camp per se – my preference is to learn all that I can and listen to perspectives as fairly as I’m able within the parameters of my own logic.
          My issue with the word ‘feminism’ at this stage is that its semantic has been hijacked for better or for worse to refer to a fairly specific woman who at least in my view, does our gender a disservice.
          Many of the airheads in the opposite camp are equally maddening to me, as I prefer women to be self-confident and assertive without emulating the masculine or grating. It is possible to be graceful, poised and confident as well as intelligent and not fall into the self hatred of the vacuous appearance-only crowd or those who emulate the worst of male behaviour.

        27. See, I’d have to disagree with you on women and self respect. Women, as with men, have a great deal to be respected for depending upon their actions and deeds.
          Any human who works to make the world a better place merits my respect. Any human who behaves with decency, honour and compassion merits my respect. Any human who develops something innovative, or assists in shaping thinking or society deserves respect from me.
          And, to be fair, I did not ‘create an entirely new life.’
          My husband and I together, after four years of trying, started a fetus whom I agonizingly birthed nine months or so later. I wouldn’t call it ‘godlike,’ myself. It was a thing that happened, that we wanted after a lot of thought, and required my husband’s active aid and participation. The birth I’ll take credit for, sure. That was a bitch.
          But until our son is an adult contributing human being, I don’t deserve any real credit. When he reaches maturity and shows the world the courtesy, dignity, confidence and strength we seek to teach him, along with empathy and courage, then we’ve done something cool, sure. But to even claim dual credit for that would be pretentious in the extreme.
          His grandmothers, his grandfathers, his uncles and aunts, his teachers and friends and schools as WELL as us will be models and tutors, and all deserve credit.. as will he! For me to prance about thumping my chest saying I’m somehow a deity for the tiny fraction of his life he’s existed outside my body would be hubris to say the least.
          That’s my take, in any case. I don’t dismiss reproduction, but I also don’t privilege it over acts of decency, compassion, and dignified contribution to society. Just having a baby isn’t worth a medal. We really over-weight the pre-birth and actual birth thing hugely these days. Much as 12 hours of cramping agony was rough, frankly, keeping up with a hyper toddler on little to no sleep is far harder, knowing that if I were to blow up, I would damage his little individual ego as it’s forming. Give way more credit to people who can raise a good human being than those who just get to the ‘baby’ stage.
          .. that’d be like having a huge graduation party when a kid ‘graduates’ freaking daycare.

        28. The word feminist has evolved several times across generations. The most recent understanding of the term is that a feminist stands for equality, and freedom of choice. The more people who understand it as such, and use it as such, the less people like the commenters on this site will be able to add Nazi to the tail end as a means or ignoring the voices of women. Since feminism is all about your choices and your agency, it is up to you as a sentient human what it’s expression will be. If you stand for equality, and the advancement of all human beings, then you are a feminist. Go right ahead and claim the word. It’s yours.

        29. I’d rather coin a new one without the semantic values, as opposed to fighting to rebrand this one, truthfully.
          The swastika has been used since neolithic times worldwide, but thanks to a 20th century culture lasting less than thirty years, it’s permanently untouchable now.
          I share many values with self-described ‘feminists’,’ but I also find many of the opinions on this site accurate and understand from whence they come.
          Misogynists might tell me I possess no intrinsic value beyond my reproductive capabilities, and attempt to regulate even those… of course I have yet to be told that, quite likely because as a very tall fit former farm girl, I’m not exactly a good target…
          Misandrists who self identify as ‘feminist’ HAVE told me that I somehow further rape culture for the terrible sin of touting the rule of law and the right to a fair trial.
          I stand with critical examination of concepts, and self-evaluation based upon sound thinking with a hefty dose of compassion. Whatever that is branded as these days.

        30. ” I don’t dismiss reproduction, but I also don’t privilege it over acts
          of decency, compassion, and dignified contribution to society.”
          No offense, but that is precisely the twisted attitude that has destroyed femininity. The idea that there is ANYTHING that they are capable of accomplishing that bears even the remotest value compared to creating life.

        31. Tina Turner had a place in the originals, she belonged.
          The Remake is a giant middle finger to men raised in the 80s.
          Welcome to ROK!

        32. I’m not offended. For me, it’s a matter of values and how I see things. I don’t assume that I ‘created’ life. To do so, for me, would imply that I have some ownership over my son, and I do not. His body is his own. Yes, mine nourished him, and yes, he depends on me completely.
          But he is not my possession. I do not own him as I own something I have built with my hands to my whims and specifications. I did not create him, in my own estimation, and I would never assume the mantle of some sort of creator of living creatures as a result, if that makes sense.
          When asked whether I would circumcise him, my answer was simple: if he chooses as a grown man, to do anything to his body, I will support him so long as he is happy and is fully informed. I have no right to mutilate him without his consent. He is his own person, and while I may help to shape how he responds to the world, and how he sees it, his temperment and mind and flesh are ultimately his alone.
          Just my own take on it. 🙂

        33. Many thanks for the welcome! I’ve been finding the discussions engaging and welcoming as well as informative.
          Out of curiosity, why are you calling it a remake?
          I mean, I have no interest in the film personally because, for my money, Mad Max IS Mel Gibson. Those batshit blue eyes and ability to completely convey someone over the hell horizon and accelerating but somehow keeping his self as his own is something I found him totally convincing in. No new guy’s going to cut it for me as a replacement.
          I’d call it.. hrm.. a crazy Aussie action movie possibly in a similar vein to Doomsday or something, that pays tribute to the original trilogy, but I have a hella-hard time fitting a new face as Max myself.

        34. And that is exactly why women cannot raise boys.
          Yes, you DO own your son. He has NO rights but what you have gicen him, and what he eventually creates for himself. He has no privileges he has not had to earn.
          There HAS to be as much for the parents of a child as there is for the child. that ‘gift’ is your immortality, the right to mold the child into what you want them to be.
          without that right, what’s the fucking point of children?

        35. I believe that we’ll have to agree to disagree then. My son is my contribution the humanity, but that’s as far as any notions of ‘mine’ go for me. He may choose once mature to reject all I’ve taught him if I teach poorly.
          As for your idea of women raising, I’m sorry that you’ve come to that conclusion. My husband and I share very much the same parenting approach, and much the same ideology in terms of autonomy and rights. If anything, he’s even stronger in this view than I am. I don’t intend to minimize his role in this by any stretch, but to celebrate it. I hope very much that our son is as wonderful a man as his dad.
          Your perspective is an interesting one, but I don’t think either of us would ever wish to share it.

        36. your call, but it seems to be self evident that parenting MUST be as rewarding for the parents as it is for the children, or there’s no incentive.

        37. “America is a nation that values rugged individualism, and it is precisely that which Feminism seeks to defend.”
          And in the real world, feminists try to:
          -abolish prisons for women, not men
          -force companies build by men to hire women to leading positions, i.e. having a say in a thing they haven’t build and made minimal contributions to
          -lower the requirements standards for female soldiers, firefighters and police officers. Basically ruining everything.
          -remove the presumption of innocence for men accused of raped or involved in domestic violence
          – not to mention censoring any opposing view form the public sphere.
          This just came on top of my head.

        38. It’s a long view, really. There is no real reward for the infant and early toddler years if I went by the scale of rewards from shaping our son in our image. A toddler is a ball of volatile curious energy that kisses as often as he bites or hits, bursting with new emotions he can barely contain, let alone put words to.
          It’s a very high cost-to-benefit if you analyze it. All the tolerance and patience is on our end. If you expect rewards in any way equal to sacrifices, you’d be left wanting. He adores us and we adore him, but ideas like ‘full night of sleep,’ ‘sex,’ ‘privacy,’ ‘time to think,’ etc are a pitiful joke right now. As I type this, he’s sitting on my lap watching a truck video on the other monitor, and it annoys him that my attention is not wholly on him – he’s imperiously pointing at the monitor I’m using and saying ‘TYUCK!’
          The rewards lie in his radiant grin, his belly laugh, or his delight in learning something new. Our decision to reproduce was based on watching ‘Idiocracy’ a few too many times, I sometimes think! I’ll judge our success and concomitant rewards when he’s fully grown.
          Cheers!

        39. Your examples lean heavily toward the physical.
          What about the mental? The creative? Female authors, scientists (Mme Curie and Ada Lovelace were brilliant women), artists, composers, scholars, innovators etc.
          I don’t actually disagree with you on the physical side of things for the most part, though even some sports have better women than men competing (many equestrian sports for example) by medal count. I do think that you’re dismissing the non-physical contributions my gender can, have, and continue to make in fields where the emphasis is on the mind and how it works.
          Cheers!

        40. However as a male deeply involved in the BDSM community, I presume you live by the ‘safe, sane and consensual’ watchwords? Within that scope, as far as I for one am concerned, anything goes if it’s consented to by reasonable adults.
          I wouldn’t classify that deleted poster’s bullshit about beating his young daughter and wife as bearing any resemblance to SSC activities, nor would I insult BDSM by suggesting that 50 Shades of Shitty Twilight Slashfic’s terrible portrayal of dominant sex is anything but asinine. The fact that it has very likely encouraged gullible airheaded women to crave rough sex without educating themselves about BDSM’s basic tenets annoys the hell out of me.
          And no, I’m not myself in the scene, but have some very close friends who are, one couple of which lives in a very happy total power exchange 24/7 marriage.

        41. OK, one by one:
          – The prison abolitionist groups that I am familiar with (and have worked with) do not favor women’s prisons over mens. Prison abolitionists are opposed to prisons, all prisons.
          – I will refrain from correcting your spelling here, and simply say that while in some states affirmative action is still in place to encourage sexist companies to hire women, there are still just as many qualified and intelligent women entering the workforce today as there are men, so no one is suffering in terms of available and qualified employees. And, just like women applying for a new job, the male applicants did not build the company to which they are applying either. That’s the nature of new employees, they’re new. You can’t claim bragging rights for every company founded on earth by a man, just as I cannot claim participation in every company on earth founded by a woman. We’re individuals.
          – I have no data on this. You’ll have to cite some sources though if you want to make this claim.
          – The presumption of innocence has not been removed from the law, unless you’re talking accusations of terrorism since the patriot act, in which case things have gone a little crazy, but that has nothing to do with feminists.
          – As far as I can tell, opposing views make up a large percentage of the public sphere. I suspect you haven’t ever really tried imagining what ‘the public sphere’ actually looks like to woman.

        42. 90% of “successful” women have gotten there on the backs of men esp Mme Curie.
          The is a ROK article or 2 discussing this, check the archives.

        43. I love ‘authorities’ on bondage. Let me put it this way… ‘ssc’ is something to ensure that children don’t get in deep shit, or trash the community.
          Experience provides you with understanding, and understanding allows you to more deeply understand certain things that one would not tell a newbie to the community. It is something only men can understand, and even then most men are too deeply indoctrinated to believe the truth even if it is shoved into their eye with a red-hot poker.
          Generally you have to move past the ‘Gaydom’ paradigm to begin to understand real bondage. Something almost no one does, due to leatherfag control of the interface between D&S and the Media. If it makes you feel better, most of us have no interest in bringing media or legal attention to it anyway.
          Truths that have to be learned the hard way or they will not really be understood:
          1. Women, all women, are submissive. Women who are ‘dommes’ are doing it for the (excellent) Money they can get from twisted men, because they are broken in some horrible way, or because they possess an extra chromosome.
          2. Men, all men, are dominant. This does not mean that they do not possess a ‘slave mentality’, or are not better followers than they are leaders, it means they have been designed from the ground up to dominate women. Men who are not dominant are broken, sometimes emotionally, sometimes physically.
          Once you learn those two extremely Darwinian rules, the rest falls easily into place.
          1. The sub is not in control. That is PC bullshit, only good for beginners. Thus safewords merely prove that the top or dom has allowed his bottom to ‘top from the bottom’ and destroyed his control. A submissive is your PROPERTY. One takes good care of one’s property… not out of common decency or responsibility, but simply because you don’t trash your own property, and we instinctively protect our property as well. if you wish to allow a safeword because you think you may be unobservant enough that your bottom has to call attention to a safety hazard you may have missed, that is your choice, not their ‘right’.
          2. BDSM is not a ‘lifestyle’, it is a LIFE. It is the natural level upon which Human beings, men and women, were designed to interact. One has only to act dominantly in public to notice that most women instantly and reflexively respond to the behavior, because it has been hard-wired into them by evolution.
          3. ‘full’ bondage, life bondage, between a male dominant and a female submissive is a deeper and more emotionally fullfilling bond than any other, so much so that there is literally no way of describing it to one who has not experienced it. You go to bed smiling, wake up with a sense of well-being that is indescribable, and generally walk around far happier than at any time since leaving kindergarten.
          There is much, much more, but… It’s stuff you can figure out for yourself, as you are not my slave and it is neither my responsibility nor a particularly pleasant duty to explain it to someone that is not my property. But do not think you can dip your toe to see what it’s all about. If you are out, you will never see, and if you are in, you will never leave. Any ‘toe dipping’ you try is basically toedipping leatherfag culture, not natural bondage. And I am not trying to couch it in mystical terms or any of that shit, because there’s nothing mystical about it. It’s as biological as blood and bone.

        44. I will. That said, I’d dispute considering any intellectual partnership to imply ‘on the backs of men’; one might as easily suggest the opposite conclusion. I don’t personally subscribe to either paradigm. Instead, I’d celebrate both partners, and do, as rare and remarkable working relationships which all of humanity has gained from. There are all too few women with intellects or abilities like a Lovelace, a Cassatt or a Curie who have found themselves in the situation whereby they are working with someone or solo and offer something so remarkable to the rest of us.
          This is not to say that women are stupid in my opinion – it is instead to say that they often obey other impulses either from their upbringing or from the pressure of society/media, and let their possible brilliance rot like so much compost between their ears while they try to be ‘pretty’ or whatever else.
          So do many men, for that matter. There are not so many Hawkings, Kurosawas or Einsteins as humanity could really do with. There are a lot more Nicholas Cages, Justin Beibers, or [insert any number of moronic poser’s name here]’s.

        45. Interesting take. I worked for a time in my twenties as a graphic designer and worked for a bondage company in redesigning their packaging. I had to learn a great deal about the scene, and since my temperment draws me inevitably toward curiosity about matters which mainstream culture deems ‘taboo’ or ‘forbidden,’ I did a great deal of research, though I’ve known from the beginning that it’s not my cup of tea.
          You have an interesting, almost Gorean take on it, though without the blithering literary diarrhea most Goreans I’ve spoken with seem to suffer from.
          There will always be things I will never understand about it, because as you state, I’m ‘out,’ and likely to remain so. Professionally I study cultural expressions of historical identity in cultures which are decidedly not western, and include practices western society flinches openly to consider. As such, I will likewise never understand the innermost sanctums of many of the matters which I study, but I can grasp some of the broader currents or trends. I don’t at all claim to be an authority in something you live – far from it!
          I do however now understand why you perceive parenthood as a matter of ownership to some degree. Historically, you’re quite right. Just as historically, my gender were chattel.
          I’m very happy for you that you have a way of living that brings you such joy, and presumably any pet/slave you own. I will ask if I may – you reject the notions of safewords etc.. how would you find a slave given that? My peripheral understanding of BDSM is again that matter of consent. Someone at a BDSM club/party who is advertising him or herself as a sub/slave eager to live a life of complete obedience? It’s obviously legally and generally dangerous to lay claim to a prospective slave who may be dabbling or some deluded moron who read 50 Shades of Stupid once too often.
          edit – also, what is your stance on transpeople or two-spirited people in terms of the biological binary you’ve outlined?

        46. If women are such great innovators, and such creative thinkers, why aren’t nearly half of all great creations theirs instead of a mere handful?
          Do you honestly believe that there are men with clubs standing around ready to bash a woman on the head the moment she creates something?
          How come there’s no female John Williams or Danny Elfman? no female einstein or Pasteur? (Btw, i like curie, but she is a very bad example, as there are a lot of very strong suggestions that her husband released HIS discoveries as hers in order to profit from ‘dancing bear’ popularity of a ‘female scientist’, and she may have been little more than a glorified unpaid bottle washer)
          I could explain it but you would probably discard the explanation out of hand. In essence, Women tend to cluster about the mean in creativity, innovation, and intelligence. There’s really not that far a difference in 99% of all women between the ‘smartest’ and the ‘dumbest’, the ‘most creative’ and the ‘least creative’
          Men, on the other hand, while generally averaging the same creativity and intelligence as women, do NOT cluster about the mean. The SMARTEST 90% of all men are so far above the ‘dumbest’ 90% of all men that they might as well be of a completely different species.
          societal contributions, discoveries, and great impacts are NOT made by those that cluster close to the mean, they are made by outliers. the intelligence MEAN is generally those who are ‘competent at living’, which no one who ever desired a wife to stay at home with the children would wish to see reduced. It takes a certain level of smarts to raise successful children, albeit a completely different KIND of smarts that building an aircraft from scratch.
          So, when one of us men state that ‘Men are better than women’, ‘men are smarter than women’ or ‘men are more competent than women’ we are being utterly, and strictly truthful. However, what we choose to leave unsaid is that we are also dumber, less competent, and worse than women… at least 50% of us are, anyway.
          However, when you are dealing with men on the internet, men who use words like ‘competent’ and ‘societal contributions’, it is safe to assume that we are NOT in the lower 50% of male humanity. Thus our ‘clustering’ along the outer edges of the intellectual curve generally means that unless you are in the top 1% of all females, nearly every single man you engage here is likely more intelligent, creative, or competent than you are.
          So, because men are physically more powerful than women, that means that you cannot compete with the lower 50% of all men as far as brute labor jobs are concerned. When you start agitating for jobs where women are indeed competent, you are suddenly competing with the TOP 50% of all men, who are generally smarter, more creative, and more competent than you are. So if YOU take one of those ‘intellectual’ jobs, you are by definition depriving someone more qualified than you are of work. On Average you may be just as smart, competent, and creative than us… but you are not competing for ‘average’, you are competing for ‘smart’.
          So, does that give you just a slight glimmer as to why ‘affirmative action’ is such a travesty? ‘competing on a level playing field’ is a joke, and ‘equality’ is a miscarriage? Because your demands for ‘equality’, simply mean that those men who are vastly ABOVE the mean are forced down to the level of the mean, and those who are far below the mean are unable to compete. It’s like trying to force bowling balls through a garden hose.

        47. It takes 16 years to of sacrifice to raise children to adults. It takes about that amount of time to go from ‘retired’ to ‘dead’, where your children are caring for YOU. To me it seems to be quite an equitable exchange.

        48. Though (and I agree) that also presupposes their willingness to care for me in my old age.
          My mother in law is a stellar example of the kind of woman I’d like to be in my 70’s. She cares daily for her own 90-whatsit mother to prevent her ever needing to be stuffed in a home. If my MIL becomes an invalid in her own dotage, be certain that my husband and I will lovingly care for her in turn, as she’s such a generous, dignified and honourable human being.
          A grown child can easily become indifferent or even hostile if youth was abusive or lessons were rejected. I can hope for my own part that when my own son is an adult, he will feel about me as his father feels about HIS mother.

        49. I find your points interesting, but will add a necessary historical filter and contextualization – as a historian.
          Until the 20th century, and the advent of women’s suffrage, there simply wasn’t room societally or culturally for women to be more than extreme outliers. Authorship of more than half of humanity’s great innovations would have required that women not have been the chattel they primarily were until the last hundred years. Today, in the handful of decades since room was made for women, there has been a gradual increase in contributions, but of course it’s still a drop in the bucket, and many women continue to fritter away their own potential on frankly asinine pursuits.
          In my own academic fields, women have certainly established themselves intellectually for innovations or innovative ways of thinking. Being able to see a field of data and perceive a pattern is not as common a skill as one might wish it to be. In my experience, women in higher learning have had to work extremely hard to be there – writing your comprehensive examinations requires over a hundred books absorbed and internalized no matter your gender – per chosen field, and there are often three fields one is examined in. If you can’t hack that, you don’t belong there period. You are then examined both orally and in written examinations, and scored by a committee as opposed to any one examiner. Defending your knowledge and comprehension of the scholarship vocally before a critical committee often including the people who WROTE those tomes is a nerve-wracking process, be assured.
          For many fields, there is also a language requirement insisting on examinations in multiple languages dictated by the field of study. For classicists, that often includes German, French, Italian, Latin and ancient Greek.
          Now, that’s from my personal experience and from anecdotal hearsay from colleagues hailing from Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Yale, McGill, U of T etc etc.
          That all stated, despite the grading schemes being rigorous for both genders, women in academia do face pressures if they choose to start a family. They’re less hireable and less desired, and have to publish considerably more and better articles to warrant the same consideration as a more nomadic male with the same overall evaluations who has the freedom to move to meet the available jobs.
          Do I disagree with that? Ehh-hh not entirely. I’m also a mother, and while I completed my first draft of my dissertation prior to my son’s birth, and have published and submitted numerous articles, I won’t lie: it’s fucking hard as hell to do what I do AND be a loving and diligent parent. I can’t blame hiring committees for eyeballing female scholars with children as potential losses.
          I will say it’s a hard as hell career, but I happen to love it and love everything about it.
          I hope that also includes my take on affirmative action such as it is; it’s inapplicable for my own field of work. Race, gender or sexuality have no bearing on whether you can handle the strain or load.

        50. “Of course there’s also pretty offensive stuff here, but that’s just my perspective, and from the same perspective, stuff on Jezebel or whatever else also has me facepalm hard enough to potentially concuss myself.”
          Thanks for your honesty and support.

        51. “It is completely absurd and ultimately damaging to suggest that there is a right or wrong way to be female.”
          And yet you have absolutely no compunction whatsoever to look down your nose and tell us MEN that there is a wrong way to be a man.
          FUCK YOU FEMINIST.

        54. You’re asking for it now. She’s going to come back with a litany of “disadvantaged this”. “under-privileged that”, “rape culture”, “rape” “rape” “rape”, waaaah waaaah waaaah.

        55. “there simply wasn’t room societally or culturally for women to be more than extreme outliers.”
          Utter and complete fantasy backed by nothing but air. Invented because it sounds good. Much like white privilege and patriarchy, it’s simply an excuse for the fact that women do not accomplish very much.
          And then, no offense, a long rambling treatise on thesis. One does not even require a high school degree in order to create a powerful labor saving device or a decent scientific theory, a musical or artistic composition, or a champion piece of software.
          I enjoy using the following example… Minecraft.
          Could a woman have created minecraft? quite probably. So why didn’t she?
          Facebook? IRC? If women are just as innovative, creative, and intelligent as men, why haven’t they conceptualized and created any championship software? In fact, women outnumber men worldwide nearly 1.5 to one, shouldn’t that mean that they have at least four important invention to every 3 of men’s?
          I will, however, give credit where credit is due. The Syringe was invented by a woman. innovative and world changing… but if women can even remotely approach the competence, innovation, and creativity of men, shouldn’t they simply have a lot BETTER stuff than inflatable life rafts and car heaters to their credit? Even allowing for the whole ‘spending half your life tending to kids.” thing?

        56. Ever notice how every example of “Feminist Equality” starts off with how men must lower their standards or artificially limit themselves in order to permit her to “compete” ?

        58. I think the point you made earlier about men encompassing the upper and lower ends of the spectrum really apply here. But also KHBK’s comment about the physical difficulty of being a woman with a child, etc.– there has to be some merit to that as well. One does not completely excuse (factor out) the other, but there is definitely some consideration that should be made there. However, not all women have children. And moreover, there ought to be more significant contributions made by women before they have children if the equal-equal thing is to hold true. As far as what items they should have to their credit, I would assume that for the most part, their contributions would be along the lines of things that are of interest / value to them.

        59. I like reading your comments. You seem to have a very common-sense approach to things and that is very refreshing these days.

        60. Feminists are all about “equal rights” for *themselves*. Which translates to “special rights” when you factor in the rest of us.

        62. “I’d rather coin a new one without the semantic values, as opposed to fighting to rebrand this one, truthfully.”
          Me too. I’ll never be a Feminist because I believe in actual equality.

        63. I have found that it generally makes little difference when you carry yourself as a dominant male (except online… one of the reasons I despise any discussion that cannot be backed by logic online, because without ‘presence’ humans are reduced to their lowest common denominator) whethefr you kowtow to the predominant notions of ‘legal’ bondage or a more natural form.
          Hell, based on the sort of sexual relationship suggestions your average serial killer or terrorist receives, I imagine many women wouldn’t even truly believe me, or care, if I told them I planned on murdering them after sex.
          I have two slaves, one for about two decades and one for a little less than half that. (although the newer, (not younger) slave I think I am going to sell to a man she has expressed rather extreme interest in). We…occasionally indulge in munches, since my girls require regular social interaction, but they generally regard discussions of our particular sort of BDSM the way most BDSM people regard discussions of their play with law enforcement.
          To be totally honest, I never even read ’50 shades of Grey’ although I have certainly read many critical analysis of it… It appears to be much like 9 1/2 weeks in that it describes a very stupid dom with psychological problems catering to the whims of a far below average intelligence woman with a good rack. I may watch the movie, I may not, but the book bears as little interest to me, especially as it was written by a female author, as any of Anne Rice’ tawdry sensationalist Porn.
          As Far as Gorean is concerned, I read the series many many years ago, but it is written like a children’s primer or Propaganda… sheer repetition to try to drive the basic points home through fatigue rather than any realistic deeper introspection, coupled with mighty-thewed warrior bodice ripping softcore to make it appealing to women and a thin veneer of science fiction to try and make it appealing to men. The basic precepts are sound, but you could have written all of the basic concepts in about two paragraphs and had room left over, and replaced all the deeper psychological meaning with squelching-blood noises. Clearly John Norman was simply trying to make money, not explore the theme.
          If you go to the source, neitscheism minus neistche’s paranoid delusions of godhood, and add in a healthy dose of evolutionary psychology, you begin to gain a more complete picture of male/female interaction as an evolutionary mandate… and you also begin to learn why women are so unhappy.
          Suffice to say, however, that the bible contains more ‘truth’ about natural male/female BDSM interactions than 50 shades of grey, ‘give me the thorns’ and all of John Norman’s books combined.
          Homosexual men and women are in a unique position. their form of bondage is as artificially twisted as they themselves are, so it’s no wonder they get it all wrong. About transpeople, the less said the better, and although I am willing to give XXY’s and born herms a pass (anyone can be born with a birth defect) I would never expect them to have a reasonable sexual position on anything… If they find happiness, more power to them, but they are certainly not my problem, and I am not writing laws for their ‘special circumstances’

        64. Or afterwards. childbearing and raising encompass about a 30 year span, generally, how come there are no where near as many 50+ societal contributors among women?

        66. Sorry for saying it again, but I really like your down-to-earth attitude and opinions.

        67. like there is such a thing as rape anymore.
          if she’s a virgin, and there is violence involved, sure, rape.
          If she’s married, sexual assault might apply.
          If she’s single and not a virgin? At worst he should be liable for a ‘failure to pay for services rendered’ civil suit. If there is violence involved, then it’s obviously assault and robbery… not rape.
          But if she opens her legs for any reason short of holding a gun to her head, It’s not even a crime.

        68. Again, I see that you’re confused. My assertion that people should not rape, is not gendered. While I do not think it makes sense to tell all women to be this or that simply because they are women, I do think there is a line of behavior for humans in general. We probably shouldn’t rape and kill each other, right? I think we can generally agree on that. So, if the ‘don’t rape and kill’ bit feels oppressive to you, I guess we’re just at an impasse.

        70. I find it interesting that you are so quickly driven to insults over logical arguments. Since this is how you choose to represent the attitudes of your gender in a public forum, I think you may be the one perpetuating a negative image of men, not feminists.

        71. I am simply responding to your own b.s. Do you have something to actually say? Or are you just here trolling?

      4. I wouldn’t want these hags around commenting on men issues. But a separate site that shows women how to be women is a good idea.

        2. Ha ha you guys are so funny and original! You must be fighting women off with sticks! Or just hitting them for fun. Hilarious!

        5. There used to be a Return of Queens rival site. Seems women like drama over self improvement. Jezebel is still going strong after all.

        7. The only problem I have with that site is wouldn’t it be annoying to have every message you type warrant a return message saying, “Don’t judge me!” ?

      5. Hahahahahahah
        Yeah. All women should be banned from voting and only eligible for a doctorate in “wifely duties”

        1. Ha ha ha ha and all men should only be eligible for doctorates in “Sitting in basements typing shit and putting it on the Internet”

        3. I have a ph.at d ick in having a large penis
          Get back in the kitchen and don’t sass me woman

        5. OK. Well I have a Masters Degree, and a PhD in progress. I Suspect in terms of who is more qualified for other pursuits, you should be the one in the kitchen. People like you contribute nothing to society.

        6. And you think regurgitating standard SJW feminist nonsense like the non-existent “rape-culture” is contributing anything to society?
          Masters Degree and Ph, D notwithstanding, you and your type are the truly useless, dumb cunts who contribute nothing to society. A woman who’s a wife and mother contributes more to society than you ever will.. because on the most fundamental and basic level, being demographically viable is what keeps a society strong and feminism and the overeducated sluts that it creates and cultivates has proven to be a demographic dead-end.

        7. Having an education does not make a woman attractive, and actually having a master’s degree makes you exponentially less attractive to most men, a doctorate even more so.
          I can see by your avatar that you are hideous.
          Broads like you are just angry that men who look better than you (including me) are rejecting you.
          I have led a fulfilling, productive life (not that it’s my duty to serve you) and yes, I have an education.

        8. Nikki does not understand that having advanced degrees make a woman LESS attractive.

        9. You like’em dumb so they don’t know better. I like them strong and smart. They’re better in bed and can uphold a conversation.

      6. How to cook should be the first on every woman’s list. Most can’t cook…unless they’ve gone to school for it. Very sad.

        4. Therein lies Nikki Swarms bullshit “logic.”
          Man: Cooking is important to a man
          Nikki Swarm: Can you cook?
          How would she like it if every request she had from a man was denied, or responded to with a mocking question?
          The more the feminist talks, the more that her vitriolic hate for men becomes apparent.

        5. I think it’s sad that I can cook better than most women in the U.S., today. Women used to pride themselves on cooking (to be good cooks). Today, the argument is “I don’t need to learn how to cook”. Yes, you actually do….how are you going to feed yourself?
          It’s pretty fucking pathetic.

      7. My door is always open. I am willing to personally donate my time to deprogramming these women and teaching them which feminine values I appreciate.

      8. Maybe a course learning to be better than sperm vessels would be a decent start.

      9. I agree Roosh you need to make a section for feminist. #1 should start with lose weight
        #2 should start with dress feminine
        #3 should be the man is always right
        #4 should be fat shame a fatty
        #5 should be no fat chicks.

        1. I really want one of you to define your current use of the word “feminine”…

        2. Though I’m not a christian, I was profoundly struck by the thinking christian writer C.S. Lewis of the Inklings and Narnia fame.
          His description of masculine/feminine is a trifle dated but I think stills bears a great deal of relevance today. From his science fiction book Perelandra, upon meeting the mighty spirits which ruled Mars and Venus:
          “Both the bodies were naked, and both were free from any sexual characteristics, either primary or secondary. That, one would have expected. But whence came this curious difference between them? He found that he could point to no single feature wherein the difference resided, yet it was impossible to ignore. One could try–Ransom has tried a hundred times–to put it into words. He has said that Malacandra was like rhythm and Perelandra like melody. He has said that Malacandra affected him like a quantitative, Perelandra like an accentual, metre. He thinks that the first held in his hand something like a spear, but the hands of the other were open, with the palms towards him. But I don’t know that any of these attempts has helped me much. At all events what Ransom saw at that moment was the real meaning of gender. Everyone must sometimes have wondered why in nearly all tongues certain inanimate objects are masculine and others feminine. What is masculine about a mountain or feminine about certain trees? Ransom has cured me of believing that this is a purely morphological phenomenon, depending on the form of the word. Still less is gender an imaginative extension of sex. Our ancestors did not make mountains masculine because they projected male characteristics into them. The real process is the reverse. Gender is a reality, and a more fundamental reality than sex. Sex is, in fact, merely the adaptation to organic life of a fundamental polarity which divides all created beings. Female sex is simply one of the things that have feminine gender; there are many others, and Masculine and Feminine meet us on planes of reality where male and female would be simply meaningless. Masculine is not attenuated male, nor feminine attenuated female. On the contrary, the male and female of organic creatures are rather blurred reflections of masculine and feminine. Their reproductive functions, their differences in strength and size, party exhibit, but partly also confuse and misrepresent, the real polarity. All this Ransom saw, as it were, with his own eyes. The two white creatures were sexless. But he of Malacandra was masculine (not male); she of Perelandra was feminine (not female)”

    3. I burned about an hour back-and-forthing with mangina after mangina yesterday and also the day before. I seriously watched them swarm our comments like mad hornets after those articles hit. And man, did I put many of them in their place! All you have to do is say every insult they hurl is a tired and worn-out cliche that is really unoriginal. “Creepy douchebag who’s probably a virgin with a small penis? Dude, go back to 2012 with that! Try harder, surely you can come up with something that doesn’t make you sound like a goddamn parrot!” The herd mentality of middle America really worries me now more than ever!

      1. I hear you brother. I’ve done the same quite a bit with the same dummies on the branded broad thread over the last few months.

        1. I find it interesting that this site is constantly referred to as a “men’s rights” site, when it isn’t. I think it’s pretty obvious that feminists are threatened by the mere idea that men have “rights,” and are thus trying to smear that group with as much negative publicity as possible. I definitely don’t think of Capt Capitalism as an MRA, and a lot of ROK readers think MRAs are just the male equivalent of feminists. An actual men’s rights website is http://www.avoiceformen.com. ROK is a general men’s interest website that gives the finger to mainstream Leftist propaganda. Not the same thing.

        2. Their strategy will always revolve around using Strawmen, Ad-hominems or a combination of both. Not necessarily in that order.

        3. Incorrect on all accounts. This is a site for men who are afraid of the outside world.

        4. Yeah, and we live in our parent’s basement and have neckbeards too. A little tip, try being a little more original with your Ad Hominem attacks. They’re banal.

        5. Rule Number One of the left, is to never call things by their proper names.

        7. Ah yes, “misogynist,” the modern analogue of the word “heretic.” Forgive us if we’re skeptical of your religion.

        10. What does biology have to do with religion? The two could not be more dissimilar.

        11. Feminism supports the worldview that gender roles are purely cultural and have no basis in biology. However, a mountain of scientific evidence says that biology and Evolution are the root of male/female differences. The field of Evolutionary Pscyhology has absolutely destroyed antiquated 20th-century Feminist theories. They’re now desperately gripping to their disproved theories like a fervent priest clings to a dying religion.
          Feminists hate science likes this: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/02/men-women-brains-wired-differently

        12. Feminism is an extremely broad and complex school of thought with many alternate viewpoints and theories. While the worldview over gender roles may be attributable to certain extreme strands, these views are considered radical and are certainly not representative of the mainstream.
          Your view that all feminists feel this way is a gross generalisation. It’s like saying that the Westboro Baptist Church speaks for all of Christianity, which is demonstrably false.
          Most mainstream feminism simply supports greater autonomy and equal rights for women – basic stuff like equal rights in employment, voting, marriage, finances, and health.
          The fact remains that, whether you like it or not, many modern societies do not afford women the same rights as men, and even make life extremely difficult for women. Saudi Arabia is probably the most well-known example, but it also occurs in many parts of of Africa and Asia, even parts of the West (Ireland, for example).
          I don’t think it’s unreasonable for women to have the same rights that men enjoy, and just because women are getting more equality, it doesn’t follow that men have to receive less.

        14. Not at all. In Ireland, reproductive rights and access to abortions (even for sound medical reasons or in cases of rape or incest) are still heavily restricted and massively behind nearly all other Western countries.
          There is a big industry in ‘abortion tourism’ for pregnant Irish women coming to the UK or EU to get their abortions performed, with all the danger and exploitation that entails. In one case, an Indian woman needed an emergency abortion in Ireland due to life-threatening complications. The procedure was forbidden, and she died. A completely preventable tragedy.
          And until the 1970s, the following were either frowned upon or outright forbidden for women in Ireland:
          – visiting a pub
          – sitting on a jury
          – keeping your public sector job once you got married
          – owning their own home outright
          http://www.irishcentral.com/news/how-things-have-changed-ten-things-that-irish-women-could-not-do-in-1970s-183526621-237593131.html
          Again, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for women to have these rights, not only in Ireland, but everywhere in the world.
          Feminism isn’t about straw man ideas of ‘gender as a social construct’, as this site seems to believe. The primary goal of feminism is ensuring equal rights for women, as well as ensuring that they have access to safe and effective reproductive health.

        15. You do know that the catholic church had a dictatorship type say about abortion here.the seventies were 40 odd years ago by the way so I don’t why your dragging that into the present day.

        16. Of course, and they still do. But feminism isn’t always about escaping persecution from men – it addresses many difficulties that women go through, whether they arise from religion or culture, as well as gender.
          I included the example from the 70s because it demonstrates how, even in relatively modern times, feminism has made great strides in ensuring equality for women. But there’s still a long way to go.

        17. Maybe in some third world countries,yet I still don’t see planes loads of feminists arriving in them type places.hopefully the men’s rights movement can make the same strides in ensuring equality for men especially around the areas of divorce law.

        19. You haven’t offered any real criticism of the article or this site. You started out with an ad hominem attack and offer only snark.
          I saw another comment on here about what modern feminism is really about, which is equal outcome, not equal opportunity. I actually disagree. I think modern feminism is for the outcome that women supersede men, regardless of who would win in a “fight”.
          Cue the clip from above with Hugh Grant talking about how all modern movies have women beating up men. This would be very rare in reality.

        20. Then I suggest casting your net a little wider. There has been a massive backlash against the practice of FGM (female genital mutilation), and increasing support for the 125 million girls and women alive today that have been subjected to this barbaric tradition.
          It is only in the last 10-15 years that international action has started to form against the practice, lead by agencies such as the UN and WHO. Again, feminist principles are helping to ensure that women can live in a world where they aren’t subjected to such horrors.
          I’m all for increasing male rights in divorce law too, having been personally affected by it in my family.

      2. That’s my tactic as well. Insta-anger.

        1. It is priceless that we can have a civil discussion on how to counter trolls and their herd and they will still get smacked by any of us all the same. On the plus, we can potentially get new converts in the process.

        2. “On the plus, we can potentially get new converts in the process”
          BINGO! You nailed it with that remark. That’s the whole point of engaging in conversation with these scumbags, besides keeping their bs from spamming the site until Roosh steps in.
          If we can free even one indoctrinated mind from the feminatrix, all the effort involved in dealing with trollshit will have been well worth it.
          Some people will just say “ahhh its online, who really cares?”
          I say F that. In today’s placating society, if you can’t bother to stand up for yourself and your views online where its more or less anonymous, what makes anyone think you will bother to defend them in person over much more substantial issues?
          I fight here just as effectively as i do in person, because i live by my beliefs and fighting feminism isn’t a hobby for me, it’s a birthright.

        3. I just replied to your typical SJW with this: I think the undisputed heavyweight title for entitled prickery goes to the feminist herd. Endless “checking of privilige,” obsession with social justice trivialities (see the Dr. Matt Taylor fiasco for just one example), propogation of fake rape hysteria (the 1 in 4 number is a lie), and obsession with an imaginary wage gap (seriously, use a bit of logic to defeat that one, or just do some research to learn what a farce the whole idea is). The so-called urge for equality from this set is all about pulling men down.
          On the other hand, what I’ve seen from the manosphere guys is the courage to speak up for actual rape (where it’s legit, not “manspreading” on a subway or uncomfortable eye contact, or as it happens to men in an actual epidemic in prisons across North America… but oh, that’s just the punchline to a joke, right?), and fairer representation in divorce courts (you can’t tell me things are even remotely close to equal right now), and careers based on merit, not quotas, and a halt to the trial in the court of public opinion where men lose their jobs all the time for things said outside work, on social media, in private, etc, because it doesn’t jive with the ever-fluid set of acceptable politically correct standards, and so on. The sites are usually filled with articles on relentless self-improvement, the history and philosophy of masculine ideals, and the longing for more traditional partners with a blueprint on how to find them in a turbulent modern sea.
          While any group has outliers the misogynist neckbeard/bro thing is a fallacy. These places are filled with entrepeneurs, pilots, military men, artists, construction workers, students, lawyers, blue and white collars of all all ages and races and stripes disgusted with the above-mentioned facets of society and actively trying to make things better. But I guess we all bring our own biases to the table and see only what we want to see.

        8. I always say, arguing with an SJW has nothing to do with convincing the SJW, it has to do with using their vitriolic spew as a springboard to get logic out to the undecided spectators.
          Nobody believes a raving loonie…. the angrier and more insulting the SJW gets, the less relevant they become. I say engage.

        9. One thing I learned as a lawyer is that when you have a hostile witness on the stand your job is not to convince them that they are wrong and you are right. Your job is to engage them and let their own words make fools of themselves to any disinterested observer, in that case the jury and/or judge. You will never convince an SJW that they are wrong but if someone stumbles onto a thread trying to figure what is going on about an issues, if they encounter an echo chamber they might actually side with the SJWs, but if you challenge their points and lay out logically and factually why they are wrong, then intelligent people will think to themselves “Geez, these SWJs are fucking nutz!”

        11. Absolutely, but too many people watch too much Perry Mason and the like and think that you have not won an argument unless the other guy admits they were wrong.

        12. heh. Perry Mason was an actor.
          It’s sort of like… Murder. a big deal is made of forensic labs, brilliant deduction, and all sorts of magical tricks with DNA scrapings, paper trails, and recalcitrant witnesses.
          In the real world, if a Murderer doesn’t do something incredibly stupid like murdering his own wife or leaving his wallet clutched in the victim’s hand, murders are almost never ‘solved’ unless the murderer confesses.
          I could literally walk out on the street, look around to make sure no one is watching, shoot someone down in cold blood with my own, brand new, registered handgun, walk back to my apartment, and get away utterly and completely scott free.
          THAT is why I don’t believe police can ‘protect me’ or ‘find my killer’. THAT is why no amount of legal protection can truly ‘protect’ a woman as much as her own, beloved husband. THAT is why ‘rape culture’ is a joke… only truly stupid rapists ever get caught. The best protection from ANYTHING is a big, masculine, armed man. One who is a witness, a protector, and a killer, willing to take or give a bullet for you and his children because you are the loving, devoted wife.
          All this ‘more laws to protect women’ is nothing more than a smokescreen to disrupt a man from protecting his woman and his kids.
          Err… I guess I digressed, but I thought the comments were highly related.

        14. The issue is we are not dealing with ” equal opportunity “. We are dealing with ” equal outcomes ” aka socialism/communism.

        16. Yep. And the wage gap is only real if other women continue to undercut women.
          That undercutting is the true source of “income inequality” not men and not corporation. I don’t blame a man if (or when) I got paid less for a gig..I did a shitty job at negotiating my contract.

        19. You sir, get it in spades. That is exactly the point i have been making whenever the topic of “why” comes up with regard to debating trolls.
          It’s not about trying to convince them since they are hopelessly indoctrinated, it’s about presenting an informed (and more accurate) response to their indoctrination for the benefit of those who are on the fence or who are questioning their viewpoint, the “quiet” mangina, for example.
          People don’t realize just how effective words can be…if they get repeated enough times they are given no less a regard and respect than the truth, and that can lead to some extremely dangerous movements just as it did within Germany circa the early 20th century.
          All evil has to do to win is get the people who believe in truth to STFU…history proves this abundantly.

        20. “The only thing required for evil to triumph is for good and just men to remain silent.”

        21. On a tangential note: I suggest you look at my response to Nikkiswarm.
          You might find it appropriate, if not amusing 🙂

        22. Feminists don’t just lie; they specialize in the absurd lie. Mass media is all-in to their to their rhetorical angle, so they even can get away with extravagant lying. If 1 in 4 women were raped, women wouldn’t need to be told it. If women in an office were paid 75% of what the men on the same floor were being paid, they wouldn’t need to be told it. We would all be naturally aware of these if they were actually true! That people hear and believe them automatically says a lot about their gullibility; and about the desire for people to perpetually see women as victims (and if you think about it kinda put upon idiots…) which is so patronizing towards women it’s a form of misogyny in itself. Strong women are the honey badgers; weak women are the modern feminist who see all generations of Western women who came before them as weak and put upon, when in fact they should reflect more on their claims towards themselves. Perhaps they are aware of this: it’s why they must over-compensate by protesting, screaming, going topless and looking an ugly as they can at the same time (if they hate men, they must hate femininity), and generally behaving crazily. Femen has taken it to the next level. Feminists have always been a bunch of self-defeating whiners…

        25. There was a scene where Nick Naylor is talking to his son about being a lobbyist and explains that it’s not his job to convince the person he’s arguing with but anyone watching the argument.

        27. You can’t change someone’s point of view by arguing with them. Just humbly and nicely ask them questions that kick the legs out from under their insane viewpoints.
          In this case, non-aggression will serve you best if you really want to change someone’s mind. Aggressive questioning or arguing will only galvanize them against you. Logic won’t matter because the amygdala will kick in and consider anything you say as an existential threat. Remember, they have formed their opinion not around truth but around what serves their interests. Attacking their view = attacking their interests = attacking their life as far as their mind is concerned.

        28. You cannot change someones point of view. You can however, influence the point of view of the undecided.

        29. Not exactly true. Peoples’ minds can be changed, as I’m sure many of the guys on this site would attest to. Had you caught me five years ago, I would have thought a lot of these articles were misogynistic hogwash, however, experience and the continual beat of the red pill drum has changed that viewpoint.

        30. “You cannot change someone’s point of view” is very true still.
          Men CAN choose to change their minds, but that is a CHOICE. you can present all the facts in the universe, but they still have to choose, of their own free will, to accept them, and many people, even men, will choose not to.
          But that is not you changing their minds, that is them changing their own minds. All the arguments in the universe, no matter how logical, well-researched, or obvious they are, cannot force a man to alter his point of view to accept them.
          Women are easier. You just have to let them know their short-term comfort and well-being are on the line… They will change their attitudes at the drop of a hat.

      4. You can just hear their wives/girlfriends in the background, ordering them around.

        4. Watch that clip. You see at the end how everyone stopped and got quiet? It was like they were waiting for men to come in with machine guns to take him away.
          Too funny but all too true (today)

        5. “A movie where the woman gets her arse kicked”!!!
          As they would in real life. Wonderful.

        8. What these geniuses fail to realize is that they are driving the public here, and this site has to realize that they are only linking this site with MRas because they are not afraid of, actually love the PUA dick, PUAs. They are afraid of MRAs, because MRAs threaten to shake up the old order. I don’t just mean the last forty years. I mean thousands of years of traditional marriage.
          Feminists only want equality when convenient. They want Victorian Era privilege when it isn’t. Like family court (divorce/separation), war, burning buildings, promotions, and cruise ships.

        9. What was so amazing about this clip is the look on the “Jane Austen Scholar” when, after he smacks her with some red pill truth and THEN attempts to touch her ass, she looks at him like, “How dare you even reach towards me!” Yet if he chose to touch her there would have been nothing she herself could have done to prevent it. And if he began to “assault” her you know she would have had to rely on all the pussymen around her to come to her rescue!
          So much for empowerment! LOL!
          The truth is, women only have the “empowerment” they have because we men create a safe space for them to “feel” empowered! Withdraw the safety and security created by the rule of law (conceived, created and maintained by WHITE men) and any man could have slapped her back into her place in the kitchen! And there would have been nothing she could have done to stop it! Again, she would have had to rely on the other men in the room to stop him from asserting HIS empowerment! And in a primitive and savage environment NONE of those men would have come to her protection – except HER man, IF she had one, which she wouldn’t have or if she did he would have been a bleating coward!
          You made me look up the complete movie to see the clip in context. I started to watch it but after looking at reviews realized the main character was going to, of course, betray his convictions regarding “female empowerment” and go totally blue pill and marry the older single mother AND begin seriously teaching the subject he said could not be taught!
          Yeah! Let’s hear it for intellectual dishonesty and blue pill conformity!

        10. I’m sorry. I don’t want to encourage a war between Red Pill PUA and Purple Pill MRAs, but NOBODY is afraid of MRAa. An MRA is nothing more than a supplicating gamma begging the feminist and manginas for just a few scraps from their table.

      5. Dude i hope you didnt mind me cutting in on your fun and taking on some of those trolls you were dealing with, even though you were doing a stellar job in your own right 🙂

        1. Hell no, more is better! They want blood, let’s give them more than they can drink!

        3. I’m glad i was here for this “epic article troll” since i wasn’t here for the one that transpired when Forney and Tuthmosis wrote their highly controversial (and highly accurate) articles 🙂

      6. I’ve had success in arguments by forcing my opponent to define their terms. “Social justice? What exactly do you mean by that? Give me some examples…” “What specifically do you mean when you say ‘rape culture’? What is a concrete example?” I’ve found that these SJW/feminazis are merely repeating cliches and can’t even explain the terms they themselves keep repeating. That’s why they so rapidly are reduced to ad hominem attacks–and not even those, as BDITM pointed out above, show any thought or originality.

        1. Rape Culture refers to the ‘yes until you say no’ method of attaining consent that is so frequently the default setting in the US. It also refers to the attitudes of institutions that place blame on victims of rape, defend perpetrators of rape, or perpetuate the acceptability of violating behavior in public spaces. As a teenager, for example, my public school sex ed class was taught that if a man gets too aroused, he cannot stop himself from having sex, so, if you lead someone on and get raped, it’s your fault. I was 13. I was in the 8th grade. Rape was already my fault. That’s rape culture. Rape culture asks what you were wearing if you claim you were assaulted. Rape culture asks if you’d been drinking if you were assaulted. Rape culture accepts that men will yell at women on the street, and touch women without asking in public spaces. Rape culture also tells men that they can’t be raped. Rape culture stops men from reporting rape. Rape culture shames men into accepting sexual assault rather than speak up. Rape culture is real. You live in it and so do I. It is bad for everyone. It is not a gendered issue. It is a human issue.

        2. I’m sure the innocent victims of the various recent false rape accusations will be surprised to learn that ‘yes until you say no’ is the default setting in the US, as will those men on college campuses whose adminstrations are busily expanding the definition of rape to include, essentially, any unwanted attention from a male.
          And not a gendered issue? Then why is it always feminists trying to invoke their imaginary “rape culture” as a way to subvert due process and the presumption of innocence, and to force everyone else to shut up and accept their authoritarian political agenda?

        3. You have a definition of Rape Culture that doesn’t match the facts on the ground. Your examples are either simplistic, not credible, misleading, or misapprehended.

        4. “…attitudes of institutions that place blame on victims of rape…” You queff well, please provide a specific example.

        6. Your personal, years ago recollection of what a teacher (I’m assuming) is your systemic, institutionally based example? Please respond, and please respond to my post, did you read it (Why yes you did) of the heinous cultural crimes you support regarding the doctrinaire as espoused in the Duke/UVA rape gambit.

        8. that was taught in a public school. years later as a sex educator we lobbied for that sort of curriculum to be illegal, but no such law has yet been passed. In addition, I have, at no point said anything about Duke/UVA. I defined ‘rape culture’ as it seemed you were lacking a definition.

        9. I have to say, that since my definition is the EXACT definition of the term, that obviously your facts are not credible. Can you argue that those things do not happen? Can you argue that such a culture does not lead to an increased rate of sexual assault? With any sort of factual backing of any kind? I doubt it. Whats truly disgusting is that people are so afraid of the state of things, that the second they hear an important term like Rape Culture used by anyone incorrectly, they immediately declare the idea invalid, rather than recognizing that issues like this are complex, and require cooperation to solve. If any person is falsely accused of rape, I think that is a crime. But its is nothing compared to what women face every day they walk out of their homes, which is something that I ASSURE you, you will never be able to understand.

        10. It’s possible that voices who have been made silent for generations seem overly loud when they finally find the strength to start speaking. This is an issue that must be addressed and solved collaboratively by everyone. For the sake of both male and female survivors, and future generations that should never have to know what that word truly means. Claiming that rape culture isn’t a thing, is just as ridiculous as skirting due process. Neither thing should happen, and one doesn’t make the other right.

        11. Cody, you are going to be my shining example of rape culture. You were raised in it, and you are representing it very well in your statement. There is absolutely nothing natural or inherent in what I described above. It’s so sad that you think so. I hope that one day you get better, because at the moment, you are very, very sick.

        12. I would really love seeing you using that… first world example of ‘rape culture’ when explaining to a 13 year old Estonian girl that was sold by her parents to an Islamic Georgian pimp to sell her body on turkish streets until she is ‘used up’ at 17 and murdered.
          I imagine that, were she still alive, she would cheerfully trade HER definition of rape culture for yours.

        14. In the case of an Estonian girl, I would not use a definition of american rape culture. In her case, I wouldn’t need to explain anything. That said, the horrors of human trafficking in other countries do not make American rape culture acceptable. Shame on you for evoking the extreme suffering of women sold into slavery to justify your willful ignorance of the problems in your own country.

        15. He mentioned that degree because it is the vision men have when a woman says she was raped. You know? Like when a man takes a knife and holds it to a woman’s neck and says we can do this the easy or hard way. Shame on you for using a word like rape and being a part of culture that attributes it to how a person looks at you. That is the very essence of thought control. The Nazis were also great at thought control.

        16. Willfull ignorance of problems in my own country? Hmm… I think putting a man on the moon in a time when women ‘were in the kitchen’ sort of puts paid to your idea that there are ‘problems’>
          Tell you what, why don’t we put an average man and an average woman alone in a soundproof room, no police or legal protection, and we find out exactly who is biologically superior.

        17. OK, so the issue you’re having is in distinction of terms. “Rape Culture” refers to a culture that allows or encourages non consensual behavior and/or discourages speaking out about such behavior, or making reports when such behavior goes too far. Rape Culture does not mean that every one the streets is about to go rape someone, it means that the culture has all the wrong nutrients that allow those behaviors to grow and develop. This applies to everyone, male and female. Pointing out Rape Culture, is a prevention strategy, that helps those of us who were raised within it to identify ideas or behaviors that are not conducive to establishing a consent culture. The goal of the feminist movement that has defined rape culture is to establish a culture of consent. Any other purpose that the term Rape Culture has been used for is a misappropriation, and should not be used as a means of ignoring an obvious problem. The 1 in 4 statistic is not made up, despite claims on this website that it is. In fact, in my experience getting to know survivors over the years I have found a much higher number to be true. And even if it were half that (which it isn’t), even if it were 1/8, is that not an unacceptable epidemic? How many people need to be raped before we consider this a four alarm fire? This is an issue that requires an active investigation into how our culture develops these behaviors. Everyone should take part in the discussion, not stand on either side calling each other liars.

        18. Biological superiority is irrelevant. Human beings are not biologically superior to most living things on the planet earth. The only thing that is at all special about us is our great big brains, which we have to use to lift ourselves out of these dark times. I welcome you to give it a try. In addition, many of the mathematicians and scientists that brought human beings to the moon were women. And I assure you, the leaders of that field would not share your cave man ideas about male superiority. Check up on that if you don’t believe me, try anything from Carl Sagan (who participated in almost every major push outward into space from the 60’s until his death) or Neil deGrasse Tyson, who has taken Sagan’s place as the foremost communicator for science. Really, go see.

        19. The 1 in 4 argument is a misnomer and this is why you choose anecdotal evidence, only supported by your personal opinion, avoiding what articles, PHD holders such as yourself, and cops who get reports to go after rapists, have pooled together. Just the facts when you talk about something as vile as rape.
          I was addressed with supporting rape culture by a 23 year old who felt being approached on the street was akin to catcalling. The problem that you have addressed is there is no clear definition of “rape culture”. SO finding actual rapists vs false rape accusations is all rape culture. By switching the goal posts of rape culture it becomes less of a tool to help rape victims and more a controllable tool to persecute whomever is considered a viable target. Any wonder why there is no penalty for false rape accusations?
          And what even defines rape culture? You don’t even realize how close you sound to forming a culture based on fear and hatred by creating an invisible target. Substitute rapist for terrorist and you have the same thought control tools used to sacrifice lives to line the wallets of politicians. Fear is an awesome tool for making puppets who will sacrifice themselves to be righteous. So once again I ask, without going into fear monger tactics, what makes a rapist?

        21. I beg to differ. Do you consider the ability to create and use tools ‘not biological’? Do you consider a superior brain and the ability to plan out an ambush ‘not biological’?
          Only a fool would consider the human brain a ‘social construct’
          I hate to say this, but brains are not made out of rainbows and unicorns. Trust me, I have seen them first hand many times.

        22. I suppose you can add Hawking and the rest of the gang too. Scientific positivism, lol. That 18th century cult that has taken over the world, propogated by the earlier, crazy Francis Bacon.

        23. By your definition of rape culture most women are willing and active participants of rape culture and its main purveryors and pushers.Women don’t want a man who ask them permission for anything sexual. And your high school class was right. If women lead men on too far they can’t stop.
          Women don’t want to be asked if I can kiss you, and its a kill joy for both sexses. Women don’t want to be asked to be touched, they just want it done with no questions asked. Your problem is women not men, so go over there and debate the women on why they read 50 shades of grey and like men who take charge and don’t ask them questions and why women prefer rape culture to consent culture. Rape culture is a female problem, not a male one. Women are the main pushers of rape culture.

        24. You apparently haven’t shut up long enough to enjoy it either. Very typical.

        25. There is no evidence to support a claim that the male brain is superior to the female brain. None at all.

        26. You’re wasting your time with leftists. They refuse to acknowledge the metaphysical plane which is where most of rightest theory and ideology comes from. Debating against them just falls flat since they refuse to acknowledge your basic premises and continue to reiterate their own flawed axioms.

        27. That Cunt NikkiSwarm is truly sickening. I thought there was some sort of rule deprecating the participation of cunts in comments on this site, and banning men who engage in conversation with them. Fuck her right in the twat!

        28. It was revoked a while back because self-hating cunts are massive click-bait.

        29. lol. crack open a history book sometime – there is 10,000 years of empirical evidence to support my statement.

        30. I see … and astonish about the chasing of low-quality clicks. It sucks big time to have to waddle through their inanities in comment threads.
          It would be better if it was reinstated.

        31. Actually, there is.
          Men have approximately six times as much ‘grey matter’ as women, as well as a more highly developed parietal lobe, and a greater neural density as well as a higher usage percentage during active thought of the grey matter areas of the brain, which are responsible for logical links, pattern recognition, mathematical and real-world rapid problem resolution. We tend to ‘think’ with our grey matter which, while possessing fewer neurons, also has much faster neural transfer
          In return, women have almost ten times as much ‘white matter’ and a more highly developed limbic cortex, which regulates emotional recognition, short-term to long-term memory development, as well as having a denser number of neural links between sensory/emotional inputs and memories. They are quite literally slower and less efficient than men at thinking, but have considerably better recall and denser memory storage.
          What that means is, women are better at triggering memories and men are better at resolving real world situations correctly. That’s why you can figure out where we left our car keys while we figure out how to reduce the overall corporate budget without laying off six thousand people. Basically, women are ‘hard drive heavy’ while men are ‘cpu Heavy’. In real world situations, that means that men are superior thinkers to women, while women are better at recalling accidental insults delivered decades earlier. Of course, the fact that ‘fantasy’ (Not creativity, creativity is firmly nestled in the cerebral cortex grey matter) originates primarily from ‘white matter’ means that much of that improved memory and recall is… for want of a better term… ‘polluted’ by imaginary constructs is a constant source of strife between women and men… you are far more likely to ‘remember’ a dream conversation, or what you imagined he said rather than what he literally said, and we don’t remember the conversation at all. It is strongly suggested that this improved ‘fantasy world’ ability of women exists in order to anticipate problems rather than to resolve them on-the-fly the way men’s brains do… because, when dealing with children, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
          Of course, there is the fact that men’s brains typically are about 20% larger than women’s, even accounting for height and weight, although I would admit that ‘bigger is better’ is not definitely the case for brain structure.
          it is more accurate to say that ‘about half of all men’s brains are superior to almost all of women’s brains, but the other half are considerably inferior’. Men’s intellect tends to be more of an outlier than women’s, while women tend to cluster, intellectually, around the mean.
          However, almost all accomplishment, progress, technological advancement, and problem-solving is accomplished by that 50%, so in general, USEFUL men indeed have a superior brain.

        32. Most of us Recognize the fact that Roosh doesn’t maintain this site solely out of love and duty. That’s why we forgive ‘sponsored articles’. This is still a place where men can say fuck, pussy, cunt, nigger, kike, spic, dago, cracker, raghead, whore, fat, shellshock, slut, cock, gook, spook, frog, chink, polack, Twink, Faggot, and allah without fear of being censored.
          in this new post-hebdo, uber-pc era, where else can you say “Mohammed was a child-buggering sandnigger man-whore who sucked cocks on his way up that zeus-clone allah’s ladder until he could finally set about giving chlamydia to corpses while writing the Khoran without interruption’ Without the comment being taken down by terrified pussies?
          and BTW, I don’t think Nikki will be coming back. She is probably used to being ‘supported’ by her lesbian friends and sad sack white knights who see her avatar and immediately leap to her rescue.
          Here, a female avatar immediately marks you as subhuman.

        33. Rape culture isn’t any more a culture than anything else – the very label implies female entitlement to special attention
          Assuming you live in the western world, rape is not a problem.
          Caring about rape is

        35. “Exact” according to whom?
          .
          //Edit: even the morons at Wikipedia acknowledge that an exact definition of rape culture is still debated among feminists. The key ingredients seem to be that rape is pervasive and normalized. However, the only way feminists can make sense with that is to take what is normal and pervasive and redefine rape to match it. It takes that semantic sleight of hand to get up to the figure of 1 in 4.//
          And since when do SJWs pay attention to their own definitions? They play a motte and bailey game where they say one thing then do something else until they are called on it, then they go back to saying the first thing and repeat the cycle.
          .
          It’s hard to know where to start so I will try and address your points in order. The social expectation created by women is that men will take the initiative. If there is anything resembling a “yes until no” attitude that is because women expect men to be mind readers and far too many will write a man off as a clueless schmuck if he asks for “affirmative consent” every step of the way, particularly in the opening stages.
          .
          There is no discouragement for rape victims to come forward and no right-minded person is shielding actual rapists. It is not victim blaming to ask why they put themselves at risk in the first place. If you leave your wallet on a park bench when you go play on the swings, some questions will be asked when you complain that your wallet was stolen. Better yet, if it was a diamond ring and then you try to make an insurance claim for its theft, don’t you think some questions will be asked?
          .
          Cat calls are not rape and no one who invokes the term “rape culture” gives a rats ass about men who are raped; the people who use that term we be the ones advancing the idea that men cannot be raped, at least not by a woman.
          .
          Just because there is doesn’t mean there is a rape “culture” and even if there is it is not a phenomenon that is society wide in North America.
          .
          You assuring me that I will never understand is what is known as “poisoning the well”, a cheap debate tactic to shut down people you disagree with.

        37. metaphysical? I consider ‘rightest’ theory to be highly physical. Grounded in reality.
          Granted, it’s ‘not very nice’ but it’s astoundingly real.

        38. Yes, they start from flawed assumptions, following from this all else is folly. Though they tend to find a hobby horse of sorts, some area or particular belief or non belief that they cling to and try to twist into all other facets of reality.

        39. Aside from objectivists, most people who embrace philosophical naturalism (ie. atheism) are leftists, libertarian at best. Most religious people tend to be right wing. The exceptions are some of the kumbya Christian denominations and flakey eastern mysticism wannabes.

        40. Hi Nikki, I have a question – Aren’t you tired already? I mean I am scrolling down the comments and I see shit loads of HUGE comments written by YOU! Don’t you have any other stuff in your life to do? I can’t believe that a smart woman like you, with all the PHD’s and sh*t, is spending soo much time writing this enormous comments. Just stop already, please, ok? Time is a valuable resource and you are just wasting it. I really feel sad for you, you must be a miserable human being.

        41. “Biological superiority is irrelevant.”
          ’nuff said. I suggest you go argue with a mongoloid. It’s what I have been doing.

        42. See, that’s the funny thing. recognizing natural tendencies doesn’t mean you have to embrace them, it means you have to take them into account. Just like realizing a storm is occurring doesn’t mean you stand in the rain.
          However, completely ignoring the storm is likely to get you washed away. That’s where ‘logic’ comes into play.
          Religion is a logical method of dealing with the natural tendencies of humans to be lazy… the ultimate version of laziness is killing someone else and stealing their stuff. the threat of hell, and the promise of heaven, are one of the absolute best ways of keeping both the highly intelligent and the phenomenally stupid from killing other people and taking their stuff.
          Thus religion, one which preaches morality and fear of repercussions, added to the ‘natural’ inability of a thinking creature to perceive it’s own nonexistence, is an utterly logical and sensible way to keep humans ‘civilized’. All other schemes require either high intelligence or absolute oppression.
          Not to mention that logically one cannot prove a negative. We cannot ‘know’ there is no god, just as we cannot ‘know’ that there is, in fact, a god. Pascal’s wager thus comes into play… since there is no way to know if there is or is not a god, it’s simply in your best interests to behave in all ways as if he does exist. If you are right, you have everything to gain, and if you are wrong, you have nothing to lose.

        43. Woo Hoo!
          You forgot so say he was an Omega who got himself married to a 40+ slut. Kinda fits with his child-bugging aspect and the pro-womyn shit he supposedly said, according to his book at least.

        44. Personally, I feel terms like rape culture actually contribute more to the problem than one guy using the word rape to describe his last guild raid on Facebook

        45. What does the one (which I suggest you show proof of) have to do with the other?
          You seem to mistake me for a ‘follower’ or ‘cultist’ of some sort. Sure, I appreciate Roosh’s deep research into game, and publishing his findings, but I am not a PUA, I am a Dom. I come here for discussions with men who share similar interests, and to fulfill my self-imposed obligation of passing on the many things I have learned in my life. If Roosh finally found a woman that meets his high standards, more power to him.

        46. I have been unfortunate enough to really get a front row seat to just how depraved people can be. After a year of hIding in my house. I realized something. .. you can choose to be a victim (as the quote goes) for the rest of your life, or you can start making choices And taking responsibility. I learned to protect myself, and I have since I figured out I could, I’ve never thought twice about using physical force with a man. I learned to carefully choose friends I could trust when I went to bars and to wear jeans and tees if Iwasn’t out with a guy. my profiling the serial killer professor a few years back to ask the class why I would never be the victim of a serial killer. .. he said, the ego’s couldn’t survive me. He didn’t know me before. .. all this talk of rape culture, but I never worry walking out to my car on the dark. I never worry about being at the house alone. once you establish how far you’re willing to go, there’s nothing to be afraid of. More importantly, I’m not threatened by pages like this one. rape culture exists more in our heads than in reality.

        47. How many people do you know who got raped? And when I say, “Know,” I don’t mean, “They told me.” Yeah, me neither.
          Rape culture… pfft.
          The only rape culture that I KNOW exists is in divorce courts.
          Bam!
          [edit] Oh, yeah, and in prisons. Male prisons.

        48. Bam. Exactly. That cunt is seriously up her own cunt.
          Just made that expression up. It’s a keeper.

        49. The law and my honest opinion defines a rapist as a person who forces themselves on a woman after she has clearly and repeatedly told hI’m no. This should be clear to rapist because we’ve gone from just having sex to having to use force in order to get to the sex. I think it’s a woman’s responsibility to voice her refusal and not a man’s responsibility to ask. Also, if the girl is incapacitated and cannot voice an opinion, having sex with her makes you a rapist

        50. When you spend your life in your own cunt, does it become difficult to tell if you are about to eat bad sushi?

        52. You do realize that brain mass and loss of grey matree can be effected by just about anything. Also, I hope you’re not quoting Dr. torrey’s findings considering the brains he used were used illegally and he less habitually.
          I will say that women and men think differently. I am quite bright, or so the tests say, but my ex husbands iq haa been unmappable since he was six. He’s extraordinary. He has zero social skills and no grasp of human Response. I am not smarter than him, but I feel like a bloody genius every time I interpret humanity for him. Getting in people’s heads, understanding motivation, etc. .. my gift. My current husband has a way of just looking at electronics and knowing how and why they go together. He also Understands math which I preteND doesn’t exist. I still out multitask both, and beyond profiling people from 15 phone conversations, I am much better read than him. I don’t think men are generally smarter. I think their knowledge is applied diffeRntly.

        53. If a small guy goes up to a big guy in a bar and says “Wow, you are the ugliest looking monkey I have seen in a long time!” Small guy gets punched in the face: whose fault is that? Legally, the big guy is at fault, but no one would call it victim blaming to point out to the small guy that if he doesn’t want to get punched in the face then he shouldn’t provoke people.

        54. How exactly does the term contribute to the problem and what IS the problem in that context?

        55. It creates an increasing stigma around rape . It also seems to redistribute blame to men in general instead of a single man, and the term seems to distract from the actual rape. Instead, rape culture seems to be a buzzword when the actual rape, the shame associated with it by the victim… the concept of rape culture does nothing to confront the problem of a victims shame or address how irresponsible, disrespectful, and destructive false allegations Are. As long as the victims shame and false tape charges are wielded like a weapon to get revenge, actual victims will continue to be distrusted, shamed, and have their character called into question.

        56. > It creates an increasing stigma around rape
          Around committing rape (cause that would be a good thing) or being the victim of? I don’t really see how.
          Buzzword this and buzzword that. People have their own definitions and uses of terms all the time. That doesn’t mean its not a valid concept.
          > the concept of rape culture does nothing to […] address how irresponsible, disrespectful, and destructive false allegations Are
          That is true in part but its also not the point, yes? That can be addressed while also talking about a rape culture.
          > actual victims will continue to be distrusted, shamed, and have their character called into question
          Which is why it’s important to talk about rape AND rape culture! Blaming the victim and questioning their character is one of the key attributes of a rape culture, at least according to my understanding.

        57. I don’t view rape culture as this prevalent and buzzworthy topic. In fact, in an earlier comment, I noted that, while this thread talked about rape (of women were left alone after the apocalypse), and while I don’t necessarily support that view, I was very aware of how no one said it was deserved. No one even hinted at it. I also recall watching Last houser on the left in the stodgy whole my husband gamed, and the pained sounds to his voice when he finally said, is that not overt yet? Rape is about power. It’s not about sex. My experience withis members haa been that the concept is distasteful By the majority. Is rape culture even the right name anyway? life from what I’ve seen, numbers are going up in violent crime. .. what I see is actually more disarming. Groups of people recording crimes on their phones and posting them to social media, but no one calla the police much less attempts to stop it. That’s not really rape culture though. instead, it’s like a nation wide disconnect from other people, and I think that is an issue that should be being discussed.

        58. Question: was it a purposely done misnomer to address rapist as those who violate women exclusively? I know you can correct yourself now that I’ve mentioned what I’ve noticed but this is my problem with the feminist movement; there is no immediate filter for self preservation for women. Then when this is addressed, retroactively, it is always suggested you meant something different. Makes it real hard to trust an opinion when it is always changed. But what I meant was…

        60. Are you asking if the term rape culture was intended top only apply to rapists?

        61. No. I was addressing your statement directly. You classified rapist as someone who violates a woman’s ability to protect her chastity without her consent and I questioned why does your definition of a rapist hold to women as the only victims of rape. You probably did this unconsciously which leads me to believe you are only viewing things from an area which you wish to protect; women.

        62. Actually, it’s only because that’s currently the state’s stance on it, and I had limited myself to a definition that was both legal and my opinion.

        63. So I’m nothe actually denying my definition as is, but you are right. Rape shouldn’t be limited to female victims. It calls to mind the first child molestation laws (they didn’t come about until the 1800’s, but they only applied to girls under the age of thirteen I believe, and only if the molester doesn’t have prior parental consent.

        64. It is easy to shrug off things like this if they don’t directly effect you. Sadly the statistics say one day they will, be it your sister, daughter, niece, or partner, one day you will care about this. I am sorry for the pain and regret you will feel then for having done nothing.

        65. I’m an astounded human being. Until yesterday, I had never seen such a collection of grotesquely uneducated ignorant bullshit. If just one person on here see’s themselves for a second, it’s all worth it.

        66. So I was looking around for equivalent definitions to the one you described and, well,
          http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape
          http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/recent-program-updates/new-rape-definition-frequently-asked-questions
          – This site shows the definition you describe which was updated as per December 2014, almost half a year ago.
          http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rape
          and
          http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/rape
          The majority of these sites hold men as the chief perpetrators of rape, which currently may be a testable affair as typically no one addresses women as rapist. That not withstanding, it all boils down to a victim who irrespective of sex, is being forcibly entered for sexual release by another.

        67. I have worked as a rape councilor. I suspect you don’t have to guess what the qualifications for that are. In addition, I would say 1 in 3 of my female friends have been through this, and thats not only in circles created around these sorts of issues. You have no idea what you’re talking about, but the odds are that one day you will have some idea. It will be your sister, or your niece or your daughter. Any you will feel great shame that you did nothing to stop it. And you will be right to.

        68. I actually have absolutely no problem with the use of the word rape to describe a guild raid. And neither would most feminists concerned with eradicating rape culture. If you violated the consent of the other party its the correct use of the term.

        69. Emotional shifting doesn’t work for this argument. That is our chief problem with the aspect of rape and rape culture, the target is intangible and presumptuous. One day I will die. This is a fact. One day someone will do their damnedest to violate my freedoms. This is a fact. Humanity is cruel by nature, because we can premeditate our actions. In trying to actively prevent a crime with no foreseeable perpetrator, you end up showcasing your immediate bias against a specific group of people and justifying it by erroneous ideas.

        70. ‘the victims shame and false tape charges are wielded like a weapon to get revenge, actual victims will continue to be distrusted, shamed, and have their character called into question.’ – thats a really good description of what rape culture is. the term has been mis appropriated in social media here and there, as all things are since anyone anywhere can post, but the term is specifically created to investigate the subtleties that result in wide spread sexual assault and silence.

        71. No it isn’t. It is a loose term that isn’t clearly defined in any medium. And for good reason, it needs to be ever loose to justify it’s applications.

        72. Again, acid pop, you’re doing a great job defining rape culture while arguing against it. All of these things should be examined and changed. An examination requires language for the thing you are looking for. I welcome you to start a new word if that would be better, but as of now it’s being called rape culture.

        73. I have heard battles about the restrictions of how the word rape can be used. However, most people know that emotional rape is very much a good use of the word in certain cases. .. also, and this is just me being annoying, a word is a signifier. It can only have the power a person assigns it when they define it themselves. After all, a pen is not called a pen in Brazil, but that doesn’t change the item being signified. I also don’t get upset at being called a cunt or a whore or much of anything else.

        74. Right On!! Spoken like a woman who actually loves the man in her life. I highly suspect these people addressing rape culture are playing the game, and it is a sick game, of goal post shifting, solely to gain leverage in specific situations. Used to be a time when men could safely rally and protect a woman, child, or man would be strengthened, if they were violated in such a fashion. Now, it is a useful get out of jail card at times, used to promote chastity when one doesn’t wish to have sexual partners known or is jilted by a lover. I suspect a transexual rape victim would turn this rape culture farce on it’s head as MSM treats them like red-headed step children; unwanted and unloved.

        75. A rapist commits rape. Plain and simple. I’m not widening the definition of rape. That’s non consensual sex, or sex with a child. I am not forming a culture and calling it rape culture. We already live in a rape culture, so called because of widespread instances of rape. The goal is a to create a consent culture, which is based on mutual respect. Finally, the problem with approaching a woman on the street who doesn’t know you, is that you may be frightening her. Because there is not a trustworthy system of interaction in place that does not often result in the rape, abduction, or murder of women, it is impossible for a strange woman to know that you have good intentions. On the day that I feel certain I can tell a man I am not interested in speaking with him, and I won’t be assaulted, then I will be happy to be approached on the street. In fact, this would be a profoundly easier system, which I would welcome. That sad, we have to handle the whole fight or flight response before any such interaction will be enjoyable.

        76. The law tends to limit the concept of rape to physical entry. Of course, I didn’t include the definition of aggravated rape on this discussion since it ranges from state to state…

        77. OK, so there are two destructive things hidden in that example, which I thank you for giving to me, since it is clearly one that you can relate to in some way. SO, teaching that sort of story to young people tells both groups, the little guys, and the big guys, dark stories about themselves. For the little guy, it tells him that it is possible for him to deserve physical violence, because of an inherent trait over which he has no control (size). For the larger guy, it tells him that he has no control over his own violence, because of an inherent trait over which he has no control (size). Like a self fulfilling prophesy, these embedded ideas do nothing to prevent violence. The same is true with telling children that men will rape you if you lead them on, because rape is out of their control. I feel just as sad for the 13 year old boys who sat next to me and were told they were wound-be rapists, because of an inherent trait over which the had no control (gender). I suspect that hung over their heads in ways that I cannot understand. It also told the girls that they could deserve to be raped, not because they were mean, but because they were too friendly. And again, due to an inherent trait over which they have no control (gender). Embedding these ideas is a slippery slope, that ultimately serves to justify sexual violence, not prevent it. In addition, statements like that result in false accusations being believed (since ideas like that suggest that all men are one make out session away from being rapists), and also prevent men’s reports of rape by women from being treated with the seriousness they deserve (since that idea suggests that men are always the instigators of sex). No one wins. That’s Rape Culture, a cultural standard that results in rapists, and one that hurts everyone. In a consent culture you wouldn’t have these problems to begin with. There would be no leading on this way or that. They idea of a consent culture is that folks could just talk openly about what they were or were not up for. Problem solved.

        78. It’s actually not about whether I love him, although I do… I just don’t think it’s the best action at this point.

        79. I have heard those battles as well, but I don’t think that represents the wider discourse or purpose of feminists. I think there are far more massive issues to address that actually cause problems. Also totally with you on the signifier. And I know plenty of educated and empowered women that totally dig being called a cunt or a whore, under the right consensual circumstances, as is their right. 🙂

        80. There are NO APPLICATIONS. I will explain again, that the term Rape Culture is used as a means of investigating the current state of things. Since Rape Culture is already firmly in place, it cannot be applied. It has already BEEN applied.

        81. I actually think disconnection is the best descriptive. Now, to be honest, I am nor required to report. I can sit out on the lake, watch you drown while screaming for help, and I can pop popcorn and piss in the water. I have no legal responsibilities to do so, and while I’m against having those legal responsibilities, I couldn’t sit back and say nothing, and I fin it hard to conceive of groups as large as what I’ve seen, all actively recording and none feeling any moral obligation. And it’s bigger than that. It’s not about fear of repercussions or even not wanting to be bothered. There’s a famous case from the 70’s where a woman was attacked outside of hey apartment building on a busy street. The neighbors heard her screaming, and the lights from their windows caused her attacker to abandon house victim three separate times, but no one every came out, and no one called the police so he eventually killed her. That’s bad enough. .. but from what I see, it’s not even that we’ve considered that reporting it could be a bother. Instead, they’re entertained. That’s a truly horrifying thought with one person, but in groups of twenty or thirty. ..

        83. There are studies on this, apparently if there is only one bystander to an assault, they are far more likely to intervene. The running theory is that when people in a group, they tend to assume that someone else will deal with the problem, often until it is too late for anyone to do anything at all. It’s never a good idea to assume that someone else will take responsibility if something horrible is happening.

        84. Yep, and the mob mentality kicks in. I also think that we are so desensitized, so disconnected, that the moments of horrible violence are the only things we fully experience anymore.

        85. It is precisely because we are capable of premeditating that Human beings do not have to remain cruel. We are capable of evolving, even within a single lifetime, by way of ideas. This is what makes Human beings truly special. But if we continue to use our brains to harm ourselves, one another, and our planet, then we will soon find that the natural world is under no obligation to make space for us. That’s how evolution works. Either your special trait that sets you a part fits, or it doesn’t, and that’s the end of you. I have no bias against any group of people. Being a Feminist has evolved. Being for equality means that I stand for the well being and advancement of all people. Even you. So, all I am suggesting, is that human beings learn how to behave from other humans, from culture. And since rape and violence in general is widespread, we have to re-examine how, and what, we are teaching.

        86. I assure you I am committed to preventing this kind of misogynist garbage from continuing unchecked by the opposition. So, unfortunately for you, your options are either to continue to be sickened, or disband your little hate group.

        87. OK, so, off to a good start. If you believe in 10,000 years on the planet, than I assume you’re comfortable with the 4.54 billion years that it has been in existence. Over that period of time our ancestors have also been single celled organisms, but I’m not looking to behave like one of those. Chimps are our cousins, but I don’t see emulating their behavior as a step in the right direction. There was a time where our ancestors believed that we were the center of the universe, that the stars were gods, or that prayer could bring rainfall. All of these notions were incorrect, and results of our infancy on the planet and in the universe. Since we are a species that evolves through the development of our minds, we should not look to our under developed ancestors as absolute role models. Now, that being said, I do not recall ANY empirical evidence from ANY point in history that would suggest that a human man is incapable of preventing himself from raping a woman due to his arousal. We are defined by our self awareness, and our ability to make choices. Wether or not the choice to rape was supported by cultures of the past, it has never been a biological imperative. It has always been a choice.

        88. Ok, I’m going to try and take your points one at a time. First, I pay very careful attention to my definitions, particularly when I am a part of a movement creating terms. This honest adherence is essential, and I know few feminists who blow past them mindlessly. If that is what you’ve been exposed to, then you haven’t been dealing with feminists, you’ve been dealing with angry people. Do they have reasons to be angry? Yes. Is their approach effective or representative of the movement? No.
          Moving on.
          “The social expectation created by women is that men will take the initiative. If there is anything resembling a “yes until no” attitude that is because women expect men to be mind readers and far too many will write a man off as a clueless schmuck if he asks for “affirmative consent” every step of the way, particularly in the opening stages.”
          – Nice work, you have effectively identified one aspect of rape culture. However, you’re missing one key aspect. Women are discouraged from taking the initiative in just the same way that men are told it is their responsibility to do so. Both of these attitudes need to change. A social construct that makes it unacceptable to offer or attain consent is a recipe for disaster.
          “It is not victim blaming to ask why they put themselves at risk in the first place. If you leave your wallet on a park bench when you go play on the swings, some questions will be asked when you complain that your wallet was stolen. Better yet, if it was a diamond ring and then you try to make an insurance claim for its theft, don’t you think some questions will be asked?”
          -Here’s the difference. If a man left his wallet on a park bench, it would be stolen. If a woman left her wallet on a park bench, it would be stolen. See, equality. Not the best thing, but it’s certainly not gender biased. The same is not true for rape. If you go to a party, do you wonder if you should stop drinking so that you can defend yourself against sexual assault? I doubt it. In addition, since we are not objects, there is never a justification for the theft of our bodies. While losing your wallet is a drag, you recover. It’s not something you live with for the rest of your days.
          “Cat calls are not rape”
          -Correct. I don’t think anyone whose really thinking this through is saying that. Here’s what they are saying, Cat Calls are frightening. Why? Because without any confidence that you will not be raped/abducted/or murdered, attention from a strange man on the street could mean anything. It could mean something totally harmless, or it could mean your life. I have had cat calls escalate to following me home, or trying to pull me into a car. I have friends in my city who have had cat calls escalate to gang rape. We all know these stories because they are our stories. So, if women tell you they don’t like cat calling, it is because it is frightening. You may think you’re complimenting something, but often times what you’re really doing, is momentarily giving a woman cause to fear for her life. Not because you yourself are a threat, but because she doesn’t know you yet.
          I evoke the term rape culture, and I absolutely consider male victims. I am of the opinion that there are more statements made on this website that would promote the notion that men cannot be raped than on any feminist blog I participate in combined.
          Rape culture is society wide in the US, because widespread rape is society wide in the US. It may look different in different places, but the results are in, US culture is producing rape. We have to address it.

        89. Yeah thats just fucking nuts. But it’s my point exactly. Politicians can say ‘legitimate rape’ in this country, which means its an acceptable enough concept to risk your career on.

        90. there will always new someone who is willing to step overt the bodies of victims in order to further theirs political agenda.

        91. So why don’t you leave this website and go back to your “educated” friends on feminist websites than?

        93. “In her case, I wouldn’t need to explain anything.”
          That is because her case makes itself apparent. Your cases need to “explained” because they are contrived.

        96. Because preaching to the choir only gets you so far. At some point change has to come by changing the minds of the people who oppose you.

        98. No, that is incorrect. My case does not need to be explained to rape survivors, any more than the Estonian girl would need an explanation. My case needs to be explained to you, because you have been granted the privilege required to remain willfully ignorant.

        99. At what point will you consider yourself safe? Clearly now you are not safe, rape culture is everywhere correct? What dictates a safe society for you?

        100. Agreed. It would be better suited for feminism to finally meet it’s long over due end and open conversations be opened so both sexes be respected instead of one sex exalted.

        102. http://www.pnas.org/content/111/6/E637.full
          Since you decided not to cite even a single source in you WILDLY oversimplified and idiotic descriptions of outdated scientific theories, I will just go ahead and direct you to a Peer Reviewed scientific article to support my claim. I think that should about wrap things up.

        103. I actually agree. What we have right now is about debts degrees of losing.. Wouldn’t it be lovely to be home with your wife after you child is born… That type of early paternal bonding hasn’t been advisable available for men.

        105. As I’ve said before, the goal is to construct a culture rooted in consent, and based on mutual respect.

        106. We have that. But according to you we don’t based on rape. What you are then saying is you will eliminate crime by controlling behavior but you can’t control behavior without enforcing penalties. We still have criminals in America and it is because we allow free thought. Are you saying we eliminate free thought in America?

        107. Peer review? I would prefer well-documented and photographed evidence, since ‘peer review’ just means a lot of well-payed people agreed on a thing… truth by consensus is no more valid than voting that the sky is green.
          But, since you insist.
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        108. Show me documentation, other than that ‘opinion piece’ you cited, that has actual raw data, so that I can determine for myself.

        109. If a women is sexually interested in you and horny she wants you to take the lead, these yes means yes laws where you have to ask permission for every time you touch her are what happens when people who don’t get sex (male feminists an manginas and fat female feminists) make the laws.

        110. Interesting you can’t tell me in your own words, but ok. I’ll follow the link. . .
          Neither you, nor that link answers my question. But you are implying that Peggy McIntosh (whoever that is), based on a checklist of false premises that she made up from her own imagination, says I have male privilege, then it must be true. Right?
          Have you checked the prison population lately?

        111. Its bigger than that Raefael. Men are indifferent to this kind of stuff, women are the ones who want rape culture where men touch them without asking. Women would reject a man who asked to kiss them or laugh at them. Many women enjoy acting not interested

        112. Women want you to take the lead so if you screw up all the blame goes to you. And if you don’t screw up she can blame you on anything she makes up

        114. You miss the point completely. The little guy does not “deserve” violence to be committed against him anymore than a woman deserves to be raped (as in real rape, not the most in-fad feminist definition). What it does teach is that you should not put yourself into a situation where you could come to physical harm. I went scuba diving with sharks. If I had been bitten, what would people think if I whined about the injustice of it all? If you don’t want to bitten by sharks, don’t swim with them. If you swim with them, don’t taunt them. Certainly, don’t lather yourself with salmon roe before climbing in the water and then wonder why the sharks are trying to bite you.
          .
          It teaches the big guy that he should have control over his own violence and just because he is capable of inflicting it, he should not because he will be held legally responsible.
          .
          In both cases, the example teaches responsibility. In the feminist view, women do not have responsibilities. They can behave in any way they want and do not think there will or should be any consequences. That is a major theme on this and similar web sites and your complete blindness to what the story actually represents merely reinforces that theme among all the men reading your previous post.
          .
          I highly doubt that you are relating verbatim what was said in class. The message most certainly was not that all men are would-be rapists: that is a meme delivered by feminists and orthodox Muslims rather than mainstream America from back in the day.
          .
          It’s not about being “too friendly” it is about putting yourself at risk. Realistically, there are only a small number of predators out there. However, some women think they can ignore the predators and if one does strike then the answer is to try to reprogram all males, all sensible women, and society and its interactions. I should be able to walk anywhere in the city anytime. There is nothing stopping me but would it be wise? There are some places which, at some times even a healthy, combat trained male will not go alone. It is called common sense. I take personal responsibility for my personal safety.
          .
          Since you don’t understand the concept and missed the point, your talk about slippery slopes and justifying violence are irrelevant.
          .
          The false accusation arise out of the move to reprogram me, society at large, and the rules of interaction by creating new rules that don’t mesh with reality but some women will take advantage of for their own personal interests if they think they can get away with it.
          .
          There is no “rape culture” and what we are moving towards is not a “consent culture” but a system where we will see more false accusations, unless we let it go so far that the false accusations consistently stick.

        116. The term “rape culture” is at least 40 years old, probably from the movie titled. . .wait for it. . .”Rape Culture (1975)”. Four decades on there is still no “exact” definition, but it’s good to know that you are “part of a movement creating terms”: that is, you and your likes are just making things up.
          .
          Are you saying that feminists are not angry people? Angry people are not feminists?
          .
          Virtually every study that I have seen says that men like it when women take the initiative. Still, what you are proposing might solve one problem but then creates many more. What it leads to is again a situation where men are expected to be mind readers. If they take any initiative or show a woman any interest they have to know whether the woman “consents” to them showing interest before they have even initiated it. A guy will make a comment: if the girl likes him she will think the comment is cute, if she doesn’t like him the exact same comment will be creepy. You don’t know ahead of time. The difference is that with “consent culture” there is a whole legal and/or disciplinary system created to punish a guy who was neither cute nor telepathic.
          .
          Analogies are never perfect but you are nit picking at the edges without addressing the main theme. If you get blind drunk at a party you have relinquished personal responsibility over your own body. That doesn’t justify someone raping you but, just as not all passers by will use your ID to return your wallet, not all men will keep you safe until you sober up. Tell me what the better outcome is: being raped and having the guy go to prison, or not getting blind drunk and not being raped in the first place?
          .
          If cat calls are outlawed then guess what is next: women terrified by silence. Every male interaction with or without cat calls could potentially lead to gang rape. Who knows, right?
          .
          I don’t know how you formed your opinion on male rape or the views on this web site. Certainly, no regular poster on this site would buy into the idea that “rape culture” as it is used by SJW types refers to the rape of men. There are articles on this site that point out how (the liberal version of our)society views that a man cannot be raped (by a woman) and that is WRONG.

        117. Why is this idiot cunt not banned?
          There is as much of a rape culture as there is murder culture, even less. Rape gets persecuted like any other crime and alleged rapist can even get get lynched. You can just say you are a rape victim and you get all kind of sympathy. Even when you are busted as a liar, you don’t even get a slap on the wrist.
          What you baby-brain women don’t get, is that your actions have consequences and you should at least try to be a responsible adult. Example: you cock tease a guy until you both are naked in his room and suddenly you say no. He might lose his mind and rape you. If he does, he should go to jail and all but you are still a fucking idiot.

        118. Oh, it’s 1 in 3 already? Always trust feminists to make shit up and believe it at the same time

        119. This is true in many cases , I find with women i’ve been involved with they love that feeling of you lusting after them, it’s like it’s a fastasy they have of men who can’t control themselves from their beauty. A man asking permission before making any an every physical interaction is gonna scare a girl off or ruin her mood.

        120. Agree. Women will gladly go all the way with a man that they find attractive (but the asking all of the time is a kill joy). Then, you have “buyer’s remorse” after the fact. Many women are trying to claim this move as rape (which it’s not).
          What’s next…she drinks too much, hits someone and I get the blame (sued) because I bought her one drink?
          At what point do we hold the woman responsible (as an adult or equal)?
          That is the slippery slope.

        121. Agree. It’s the catch 22 of “well, you started it…blah, blah, blah” even though she participated with no regret.

        122. The first world shit that we complain about (in the U.S.) is nothing compared to what goes on in third world countries. The problem we have here is we’ve had it too good for too long….so bullshit problems pop up.
          No one in a third country is having the same bullshit problems that we have in the states. They are simply trying to work, eat, and live.
          Women (especially white women) have had it good for a very long time. They’re becoming bored (even when they seem to have it all). It’s the reason for such in increase in divorce..these women are bored.
          They need a kick in the ass to motivate them a little bit (wake them up). It’s called life…and I’m here to provide the kick.

        123. Privilege? Women (particularly white women) have had their fair share of privilege for quite a while, now.
          I don’t see too many “under privileged” white women around here (not in the U.S.) anyways.

        124. “The law and my honest opinion defines a rapist as a person who forces
          themselves on a woman after she has clearly and repeatedly told him no.”
          and there lies the problem. A person who forces themselves on a woman (not a man)
          But we are all equal in the eyes of the law…except the ones that clearly favor a woman (socially – understood or excepted).

        125. It’s because there is no “rape culture” in the states. Yes, it happens in other third world countries – they may truly have that problem but here…no.
          Safety and security has made it easier for our society to come up with new bullshit to complain about as time goes on. The culture is the same and if anything it’s changing only because women are the ones initiating the sex (first) and men follow along (an ugly truth).
          Now, they want to be able to have their cake and eat it too…no repercussions. So the false rape claims are popping up (especially on college campus). Hopefully, the courts will start to punish (jail time) many of these women who make a false rape claim. It destroys a man’s life (even when he’s innocent).

        126. The best scenario for any man attending college today is when things start to escalate with a man is to walk away saying “sorry, I don’t want to ruin my life”.
          That’s about the best advice I can give to younger men, today, because of this rape culture or hysteria.
          The ‘yes means yes’ thing is such bullshit and it’s only been invented because women have been allowed to roam free (read: be sluts) without society looking down on them. Back when, you didn’t have this nonsense because society kept it in check.
          They get to choose, now, who should be punished: man they regret sleeping with
          over
          reward: the hot guy that they met at the club or party.

        127. Yep, I saw that too…typical tactic.
          No one wants to talk about the white elephant in the room and the real problem (cause) of rape culture (hysteria). The truth is too painful and it may be too much for them to handle.

        128. You haven’t seen it because you live in a little bubble world (plus society doesn’t want to talk about the ugly truths). Corporations, the government, the media, etc…all pander to you for your dollar (or vote) so of course they are going to side with you.
          You (women) are being told all of the time that you are special and that you’re always right. It’s the reason why you see so many women screeching when they hit a site like this one.
          and there are more sites like this one…the movement is growing (it’s not going away). It’s starting exactly the same way (grass roots) that feminism started…and it’s gaining strength).

        129. Rape culture is simply rape hysteria (and it’s another tool of fear). TV is used in the same manner…to control people and to keep them in line through fear. Watch the news…everything reported (or most everything) is all fear related.
          Stop watching TV and you’ll see how your life changes. The serial killings and raping (back in the 70s and 80s) was a real thing. Today, we have nothing like it (look it up). I’ve been around for a bit – I remember it. We only have this fear mongering going on (and it’s kept alive to control people).

        130. That I find is 100% the truth! I know I’ve been pre-selected in a lot of ways so getting laid will eventually happen, even at my worst. However, initiating the interaction, is something that I find a rarer affair. At first you don’t think that is a problem. Easy sex. Confirmed likes and easier life. The problem is often you are pre-selected by someone you won’t like long term. And not selecting eliminates some of the multitude of strengths gained from being your own leader.
          As I discussed rape culture on this site I noticed the link they share with the ‘beta’ male. There is a distinct problem with the human race. We both create and destroy with our minds and have a high propensity to not shut our minds off. Added to that, we can rationalize many things. When in desperation and needing to survive, this means we can create glorious things. When we have luxury to the extent that me do, and being a transexual is a luxury, marrying as a homosexual is a luxury no matter how you convince yourself otherwise, taking on schools for 12 plus years is a luxury, choosing to live at home after 18 is a luxury, we rationalize that we still aren’t safe. When speaking on something like rape, the sad fact is twofold. White women will blanket the issue but rape culture is something that will never be used to directly assist minorities who aren’t sleeping with white men and it will never affect men. Note the rise of teachers raping boys and quiet on women raped by minority men.
          I say all that to say this, the problem currently the insane human programming to attempt to fix a problem. Rape culture is no problem but free thought is. For a long time women couldn’t address their lack of control of free thought in the right way, but with the assistance of laws, thanks to post 9/11 changes, and equally deranged men, they are finding more and more avenues to win. Thought rape. Catcalling. Baby rape. Being perennially uncomfortable in public. Makes you wonder why they haven’t killed themselves yet. The reason they haven’t is simple. These are all triggers statements and like an ocean, always changing. You think this unsafe woman gives a shit when she is seeking libations weekly? Or making an ass of herself tripping on her heels claiming what a good night she’s had? Or deliberately assaulting a man she doesn’t know because she feels men have done it for so long? Feminist have a bug called derangement and need a shot of sanity to be cured. In that night, women/feminists joining the latest terrorists movement makes sense as power is the only way to truly control someone’s actions. Make them know fear.

        131. To change minds you need logic, and a basis to showcase how what you said can create a better life than what they lived prior to speaking with you. All you have showcased is your own inherent fears and biases and methods you wish to employ to control what you fear so it doesn’t exist. As you say it affects everyone.
          What is also a scary but a true add on with rape culture, we humans will always rape as long as we need wars. Since we inherently don’t trust cultural differences, we still need wars. Every nation ever conquered, and ever experiencing a shift where a new party was rising to power at an alarming rate, also experienced a rise in rape occurrences by said party. The strap on was never needed to rape once the laws shifted to giving women control. And all the talks in the world will never shift our inherent need to subjugate one another once we are the ones in power.

        132. Actually it is 3-1 in feminist ideology. Don’t think the rape didn’t happen because he never met her. He was already thinking it.

        133. To be fair, privilege is a different matter altogether. It’s a complex spectrum. Male privilege, white privilege, female privilege, cisgendered privilege.. the bottom line to all of these buzz phrases in my opinion is that ‘Things are tough all over.’
          The prison population in the US, if seen as male/female, is without a doubt primarily male.
          But seen as white/non-white, I think it’s probably vastly over-representing non whites.
          So if you’re a white man, in many but not all situations, you may not have to justify your existence like a white woman might in scenarios like a work environment, pay inequity, whatever. You might be completely unaware that inequity exists unless someone tells you.
          But both you and the white woman are benefiting from your skin colour, and don’t get pulled over as often when driving, to use another example.
          And a straight white dude born male is likely having less shit shoveled in his direction than a gay male or a male born female or whatever else.
          The way I’ve tried to explain it to my aging feminist mum is that, yes, she excelled in a male-dominated field professionally, but that she fundamentally cannot comprehend the difficulty a black man might face in her situation. It’s as much an uphill battle despite his gender. He certainly doesn’t get a free ride because he has a penis. To a lot of women of her generation, that’s hard to grasp.
          Probably better to scalpel off the jargon and say ‘don’t be a dick; you don’t know what it feels like to be that human over there for a whole lot of reasons, so don’t assume.’
          Dunno if that makes sense. I’d just suggest it’s a whole other fucked up kettle of beans than ‘rape culture,’ which I find over-used, annoying, grating and often used to silence dissent or muzzle opposition.

        134. I have to agree with Red here, Nikki. I don’t DISagree with how you’re working to define the term, but you also recognize that it is often misused and misappropriated. I’ve seen it used to bash men offensively, or fashion what I could only call a sick and rather grotesque gestalt of women all decrying men as ‘rapists’ en masse on social media and in the real world. I find that troubling in the extreme.
          It’s a bit like those ‘slut walks.’ I find them equally troubling – they emerged from a policeman suggesting that a young woman not dress ‘like a slut’ and sparked outrage and parades of women dressed like hookers, in skimpy outfits.
          I doubt he was intending to shame the girl but to express his concern for her safety. To paraphrase my husband, who has a knack with putting things, and with whom I completely agree in this despite our mutually arguing with a lot of friends..
          should a woman be able to wear whatever she likes and walk whenever she likes at whatever time she likes? yes. She should. In an ideal world.
          But society isn’t ideal, and right now, no matter the shoulds or woulds, if you dress a certain way, walk certain places, at certain times, you are likely to be assaulted. It’s a lot more complex than brattily telling men not to rape, as if all men were inherently rapists (which is offensive as hell), or defiantly marching around wearing a g string and pasties. Looking to mass media, and to our own patterns of consumption, and what we celebrate and throw money at.. it’s systemic and blaming one gender or the other is silly. Using ‘rape culture’ as a means of silencing those with whom you disagree is no better than howling ‘terrorist!’

        135. acidpop5—! My God , You Must Be Bright ! Because -YOU- said so. And you must be great at stuff, because –YOU– said so. I have never said I was bright or a genius, but my clients think so or I wouldn’t be making the money I make at my job. This is called documentation. I do something and I get paid well for it. I don’t call myself great, then want adulation for it. I do something and get adulation. To call yourself ‘Bright and a genius’ is called FANTASY, when there is no documentation other than your looking in the mirror and telling yourself how great you are. It sort of borders on psychopathy.

        136. Keeping looking it over, Nikki. While yes, there are some whose insecurities are driving trollish comments, I think it’s probably largely reacting to perceived censorship or regulation on other sites. I’m considering it actually obscurely pure in its way, as it’s emotion without filtering.
          Some of the articles are brilliant and extremely accurate. Don’t toss the baby with the bathwater. The ‘How men are trained to rape’ article really stood out for me as excellent.
          Don’t dismiss the strong thinking here due to occasional trolls. 🙂

        137. I once had a lengthy philosophical debate with the husband on what we each defined ‘good’ and ‘evil’ as, since neither of us cleave to Judeo-Christian morality as it’s generally practiced in the West.
          The way we both finally agreed that we saw it was that ‘evil’ is to be so disconnected from others that you are to all intents and purposes a psychopath.
          The example I was considering comes from the trans-Atlantic slave trade: if a man can engage in the purchase, sale, transport, resale, and systemic abuse of any number of other humans, is he a good man or a bad man? By most modern definitions, his participation in that level of human suffering would be bad if not ‘evil.’ But he would quite likely see himself as devout, church-going and even a good provider for his family. He might, by his own contextual lights, imagine himself to be ‘good.’
          How does he differ from a modern corporate stooge whose day job is to help companies ‘downsize?’ That modern example’s actions might cause unbelievable suffering to hundreds if not thousands of individuals, their families, and their local economies.
          What both hypotheticals have in common is the ability to disconnect from an empathetic appreciation of another human’s anguish.
          I agree with acid that disconnection is the root, though I might call it ‘lack of empathy.’ And for me at least, it goes toward many of the problems with our species as a whole. Milgram’s chilling study shows that we’ll do sickening things if asked by someone we give control over ourselves to. Abrogation of responsibility, vicarious sadism, or apathetic disinterest are all contributors to one human doing something terrible to another, or another simply not intervening to halt the act.

        138. I’m curious, what’s your take on radical Islam and their institutionalized ways of sex slavery and rape of women?

        139. I can’t claim any expertise on radical Islam, but obviously I opposed any form of rape or slavery.

        140. I will be clear, I was not referring to the comments section, I was referring to the articles. And it is precisely that possibility that this may represent the actual thoughts and feelings of such a large group of people that I find grotesque.

        141. I think your outlook on the human race is extremely sad. If we assume that these behaviors cannot be changed, and refuse to participate in that change, then we might as well all blow ourselves off the planet right now rather than wait for the inevitable. You are demonstrating your participation in a self fulfilling prophesy, that ends in the annihilation of the human race.
          In addition, I would like to say, that unless someone cares about the well being of every member of the human race, equality may not improve their lives, at least not in any way that would be readily apparent to a sociopath. For me, living in a just society is an improvement. For others, the luxury of things like slaves is an improvement.
          If you’re leaning towards the later, which your arguments suggest, then I will leave you with these words to consider.
          No man is an island entire of itself; every man
          is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
          if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
          is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
          well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
          own were; any man’s death diminishes me,
          because I am involved in mankind.
          And therefore never send to know for whom
          the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
          -John Donne

        142. I don’t watch television as a rule, and certainly not fear mongering news networks like FOX or it’s family of unreliable sources. I do not need to do further research on sexual assault, as I have worked as a rape councilor, and therefor have entirely more information on the topic than I care to. I assure you, rape is still an issue worth addressing fully. The next time you feel like addressing a topic that you clearly have very little understanding of, I suggest that you find out who you’re talking to, so as to avoid looking stupid.

        143. I have been fortunate to live in a part of the world that is educated, advanced, and refuses these sorts of baseless and backwards ideas. I’m sorry that you have been so isolated in you’re bubble of propaganda. I will tell you, from my bubble to yours, that feminists are not fighting for superiority. We are fighting for basic human rights. And it is not you’re movement that is growing, it’s ours. You are a dinosaur, and you will die out like the rest, because you could not evolve to meet the challenges of the times.

        145. Our culture has moved past third world conditions in many ways, and in many areas. That’s true. It is also completely unrelated to the legitimacy of still existent issues. We’re not in the third world, great. I am glad. I also can’t take credit for that. It is my job, since I am alive and sentient NOW to continue to urge progress forward. If the human race were to simply say ‘good enough’ and sit on it’s hands, we would be dishonoring those who came before us. Just being better than the third world is an insanely low standard, and one that would only be evoked by a party who is benefitting from the currently unbalanced and unethical state of things. You say women are bored? Ridiculous. I say men like you are lazy, greedy, or both.

        146. I assume these behaviors can’t change because you are a proponent of it as we speak. Why did you come to this site? Ideologically speaking, we are opposed to what you believe. However, because your beliefs are the majority polling, you seek to affect a change, not knowing what our backgrounds are, where we hail, or the nature of our life practices, simply because of what is typed on screen. In what world is this any different from the missionaries bringing books who exacted genocide, or Monguls who raped and pillaged lands, or Bush’s tirade that WMDs were to be found in far off lands that threatened our livelihood. Think about that for five seconds, you have NO IDEA what I practice or espouse outside of what I typed on this screen and no idea how my beliefs are enacted with regards to what I’ve typed in my day to day life. Then you bring up an ideological discount, slavery, because I don’t share the same beliefs as you.
          You do not care about every member of the human race. Someone died today. Do you care to know who? A family member got hurt today? Did you contact them all to make sure they are all okay or if they are hurting emotionally? Once again, you go about sounding egalitarian and kind, when you are only saying them to paint the picture that you are better or worse than I am. I don’t care which caveat you fall under to be honest. When you switch goal posts, like you have been and keep doing, to showcase your ideological superiority, you not only spell out all the reasons not follow your beliefs, but how exactly what you say is hypocritical.
          Equality is in relation to the merit you prove, not our stations as people. We all have an equal merit based chance to showcase our worth. Physically, ideologically, socially, we aren’t equals. We have common interests and key differences. America was founded on those differences being celebrated not homogenized.
          By the way, Where have I mentioned enslaving people?

        147. Yes, of course. The world is much better now that everything is equal. The only problem is that women are still bitching that they aren’t getting something.
          We fill one quota, another one pops up. Just like you can never compromise with a terrorist you can never make a feminist happy.

        148. Fox or other stations (doesn’t matter which ones). MSNBC does it as well as any others.
          They all use shame and or fear to keep you in line. As soon as you’re a little older and understand how the world really works then you’ll be better off. Right now, you’re working on becoming an adult. You’ll understand it all , one day.

        149. Your response is a great example of over simplifying. My statement was that based on the small group (compared to a whole population) of women that I know, the number is more like 1 in 3. Because of that, I am prepared to believe that a 1 in 4 statistic nation wide is accurate.
          Generally in a debate people begin to oversimplify when logical arguments no longer support their claims. So, I will take your childish response as an admission of faulty logic.

        151. Did you check off any of those? Do you disagree that these are privileges?

        152. OK, I would like to say again, peer reviewed. Peer reviewed means they are not news articles, but rather come directly from the source of the research, and are reviewed by other experts in the field before they are published. The news can say whatever it wants, and tends to over simplify to make its point, or at least it’s money. In addition, I would like to point out that the articles you posted here (wether or not they support your claims, which I cannot speak to yet, as I will need to read them first) are all from 2008 or earlier, where as the article I sent you was from 2014. I don’t know if you’re aware, but science tends to progress rather rapidly.

        153. I assure you, we are not living in a consent culture. I’ve had the unique privilege of working for a company where consent culture thrived, and it was very different from the rest of the world.

        154. So in said company, were women choosing sexual partners all their own? As opposed to how women normally choose their partners. Glad you have grounded your statements back into some normal grounds. Slavery was a lot off center. Even for you.

        155. I do disagree that they are privileges. They are a list of perceptions – some overly simplistic, some outright false – that are distorted by some pathetic woman’s own sexism and insecurities.

        156. Bullshit, I have a lot of experience with ‘peer review’, and what it REALLY means in the scientific community, is that a paper got published in a journal and a bunch of chuckleheads with degrees looked it over and said “Uh huh, that’s about right” without requiring equivalent research, testing, or statistical analysis.
          Don’t mistake science for technology. Technology tends to improve rapidly to logical limits, ‘discovery’ on the other hand tends to move slowly, methodically, and require decades to fully explore.
          But, of course, the ignorant assume that development and discovery are the same thing. It’s an attitude I am quite familiar with from social justice warriors who want their newest pet theory to be popular.

        157. That is of course your purview. Oddly enough, I have yet to be truly offended by anything here. Some stuff warrants a browlift to be sure, but.. well. Evidently we’re in similar boats if you are also working on a PhD. My own field is cultural history, and from that point of view, a lot of what I’ve read here seems to be emerging from frustration, genuinely apt points, or blowback from frustrated men who feel silenced by mainstream thought.
          I don’t necessarily agree that they ARE but it hardly invalidates their feelings. To dismiss their frustrations and complaints without full consideration is unjust. And further, I entreat you as a fellow academic not to let your own ideology shape your perspective into seeing this as grotesque. It’s not. It’s valid and often reasoned or arising from a genuine sense of frustration.
          I’ve found these perspectives informative and fascinating, because they all come from a very honest place without self-censorship.
          I find myself in complete agreement with some of the underlying causes or well articulated articles I’ve read; for many western men, the women whom they’ve encountered epitomize the product of mass media: they value themselves based upon their sexuality as opposed to intrinsic self-respect, they cultivate shallow, meaningless physical encounters which demean both their sexual partners and themselves, and they celebrate such cultural heroes as Miley Cyrus, Kim Kardashian, or Paris Hilton. The out of control party girl is a lamentable waste of a life. Yet it is a new archetype which too many young women emulate, and if that’s what they know women to be, can you completely condemn men railing against hyper-sexualized girls whose only value seems to be sexual?

        160. Of course, by your same definition and criteria, we also have a burglary culture, an extortion culture, an embezzlement culture, a jaywalking culture, a pissing-in-the-bushes culture, a littering culture, a spitting-on-the-sidewalk culture…
          How many sidewalks must be spit on or bushes pissed-on before we acknowledge the ugly truth of our civilization…??

        161. That is indeed one of the major flaws of Feminism. For being self-appointed guardians of gender equality, they sure have none to spare. They are among the most sexist people I’ve ever met.
          You would think that the Feminists would be the FIRST ones arguing for gender-neutral language and definitions. But, surprise– they’re not. They’re among the LAST.

        162. It was about the “Woman”, not the “Person”. Feminism is always about the “WOMAN”, not the “Equality”.

        163. Take rape out of it– what would you say to someone wearing pounds of gold and silver around their neck and arms and flashing wads of cash at everyone while walking down the street…? Would their behavior have anything to do with your opinion? Certainly they should not be robbed– but would you place any blame on the victim?

        164. So we’ve gone from rape to not even being able to approach a woman on the street. You’re pretty pathetic.

        165. So when do WOMEN have to get affirmative consent from MEN?
          One of the things that I just LOVE about the new affirmative consent law is that now it will FORCE women to have to say “Wanna Fuck?”

        167. Or, it may be your brother, or your father, or your nephew or your uncle that may be falsely accused of rape by a woman with regrets after sex.

        168. Being a Feminist means that you are only concerned about the advancement of Women. Leave equality out of it. I’ve never met a Feminist in my life who could even define the word, much less who held to its ideal.

        170. Damn straight its gaining strength. Fucking tired of Feminists and all their derisive bullshit.

        171. You can never make a Feminist happy. That is an incredible truism.
          You can always tell a Feminist, you just can’t tell her much.

        172. “a lot of what I’ve read here seems to be emerging from frustration, genuinely apt points, or blowback from frustrated men who feel silenced by mainstream thought.”
          Amen.

        175. I care quite a bit about equality. But I have yet to meet a Feminist who knows what it means.

        179. Or it will be your father or your brother or your uncle or your nephew who gets hit with a FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION by a lying bitch.
          What’s your point exactly?

        180. Feminists are always whining about having “Equality with a Man” but they don’t have a fucking clue what “Equality with a Man” really means– what risks MEN have to deal with on a daily basis.

        181. (Rolls Eyes)
          Where’s my violin. I’m pretty sure I left it around here someplace…

        182. Fuck that.
          *I* want to know when the WOMEN have to ASK THE MAN to have sex? Isn’t that part of Affirmative Consent?

        184. Do you know what’s wrong with you and your stupid rape culture?
          Not ONE SINGLE TIME have I heard you say anything about the obligation of WOMEN to get an affirmative consent from the Man. You’re all about HIM being bad and YOU being good.
          Fucking cunt.

        185. Yes, but “Rape Culture” is only ever applied AT MEN in your myopic view. You have YET to ever indicate any personal responsibility of your own.

        186. I don’t recall saying anything about bad or good. I just said consent, which applies to all genders equally.

        187. “It also seems to redistribute blame to men in general instead of a single man”
          Bingo. Sheesh what an awesome brain you have.

        189. All you’re asserting here is that you’re prejudiced against feminists. Since I am a feminist, and am arguing for equality, your faulty definition of the term doesn’t play here.

        190. http://www.pacificu.edu/about-us/news-events/three-waves-feminism this is a decent article describing the three as of yet defined ‘waves’ of feminism, the most recent being 3rd wave. As you can see the evolution has passed us and them thinking, so as to approach the whole issue humanistically. 3rd wave is 25 years old, almost my age, so it has developed further along those humanist lines to what many are calling 4th wave.

        191. I can’tstand how women are so scared to reveal their cards to lesser/unqualified men, that they will only discuss men and how we operate and not themselves.
          If that public school had talked about the near bi-polar ways of the female sex drive, then these ‘rules’ and stuff would be called inyo question, so I’m glad you bought it up.

        193. Turning the laws on their head and throwing away common sense would be dishonoring those before us.

        194. Lol Amen! My brain can concieve any weaponry or protection or plan needed to overtake or defeat anything deemed biologically superior to our species.
          Now lets wait for someone to redefine ‘biologically superior to most things on the planet’.
          Also scientists welcome pussy around them and will pay lip service to accomodate the masses and said pussy nearby. That being said, we cant take the outliers as anything more than the exception.

        197. I didn’t point it out directly but notice the flip side. The woman must say yes NOT the man. In the argument for yes means yes, it is quietly assumed the man, being as sex starved as he should be, will always say yes, or at the least never say no. This was because in the eyes of the law men are ever so lucky when they do receive sex and the poor women are being treated unfairly and violated at a moment’s notice.

        198. It’s like those treehugging faggots that state that cities are ‘unnatural’ but that a beaver dam or ant nest is ‘natural’

        199. Yes, but this is precisely what men should use to drive home the absurdity of the concept and the law. Any WOMAN who does not get an ACTUAL and AFFIRMATIVE answer from a MAN is *LIKEWISE* guilty of rape.
          The BEAUTY of this stupid law is that it cuts both ways.

        200. It would be hard to write a book to reflect women’s perverse lack of logic. What are you going to say, treat women like garbage and they want you more than the man who treats them decently? Well then everyone wakes up and treats women like trash. But then the beta father’s will be angry and howling that you are treating their daughters like trash.

        201. Yeah exactly.
          Women are the ones obsessed with “rape” and are the ones who have rape fantasies. Men in general don’t enjoy “rape fantasies”.. only women are that sick and degenerate that they would enjoy crap like “50 shades of Grey.” A man’s sexual fantasy is a hot willing woman who enjoys having sex with him. A woman’s sexual fantasy is being “forced” by some “hawt” alpha billionaire man and being abused and spanked and all sorts of sick, degenerate things.
          You need to talk to your fellow slutty women about what makes them so sick and degenerate that they enjoy sick rape fantasies like “50 Shades of Grey” and responded to it in droves by making it a bestseller.

        203. Only two?? Come on, you can do better than that! That’s a mediocre result for a girl like you

        204. For the last 20 years I have played “Zen Game”. I only stumbled upon “game”- as we know it – early this year. Zen Game is IDGAF combined with enjoying life as it is, in the moment. Enjoy life and the women will ask you for sex, so there is none of this bullshit “affirmative consent” crap.
          .
          Out of my last 5 sex partners, 4 initiated, escalated and only the 5th was sort of iffy.
          .
          I suppose not everyone can play this game but it has worked for me.
          .
          You still have to respect the game as given. At one point I had an HB7 in bed and asked her “what do you like?’.
          .
          She said ” I want to stop.” I got out of bed, got dressed, left her apartment and never contacted her again.

        205. Progress ruins everything and turns it into a homogenous mess. In culture wars only certain cultures win out while the rest die out.
          Modern women today are enabling the death of American culture and its values.

        206. If a culture dies out because people choose not to live by it’s standards, then that culture deserves to fade away. That said, more unique cultures have been destroyed by things like oppression, colonialism, and slavery then by equality and choice. What era of American culture are you suggesting is being destroyed? Should we head back to 1850? We could find Harriet Tubman and let her know that the real way to serve her people is to raise children and obey her husband. What business does a woman have organizing the underground railroad anyway? Or would you like to go back to the 30’s and get Mother Jones and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn back in the kitchen? What’s the point of labor organizing? Surely we can do without the hard won rights of the American work force. Our nations culture would be totally the same without the middle class American dream. Just let the poor get buried in mine shafts and burned alive in factories, right? Or we could see to it that none of the women who helped win WWII left the house! Who needs spread spectrum technology to code US military messages, I want to taste Hedy Lamar’s casserole instead! If not that, then we could at least go back to the 70’s and make sure those women stayed in their kitchens. That way you could be sure that there were no women in the police or armed forces. Of course you would have less men as well since the inventor of Kevlar, Stephanie Kwolek, would have been too busy baking pies to save lives. Your argument is not just ridiculous, it’s INSANE. Without the contributions of liberated women, there’s a good chance American culture could have been wiped out before it even had the chance to begin.

        207. Well, if no law was ever changed, there would still be slavery in the US. Or if not that, there would be ‘separate but equal’ which we all know it wasn’t. Or the military draft would still be in effect. Or child labor would be no big deal. Or worker rights would be non existent, why not have your workforce die at the average age of 26 due to conditions? Laws change. That’s progress.

        208. the world is pretty far from equal. When the world is equal, you’ll stop hearing about it. So if all you are is tired of hearing about it, why don’t you help get it sorted?

        209. Ok……you’re aware a culture of degenerates and sheeple can’t sustain itself for long? Life doesn’t work on unnatural or illogical ideas. If you have gay propaganda the you do indeed brainwash kids into be trendy homosexuals, mostly girls, we are doomed. If you have all girls become entitled man hating sluts then society is doomed. If you have all men be weak beta male pushovers then it’s doomed.
          I really don’t care for the culture that comes from third world countries or shitholes. I also don’t care about the Jewish made ghettos where they forced blacks into. Blacks were better off before the feminists ruined it for them. I don’t care about the homo culture shoved down my face either.
          The American ideal of normalcy which is lost upon generations born in the 1980s and the 90s, most of them seem like irrational people with no clue about reality. Pushing shit propaganda has fucked young people up for life.

        210. Hi Nikki. I thought i would respond to this one remark, since you are under the impression that there is no legitimate science giving strong indication (if not undeniable proof) that Men are biologically pre disposed to logic whereas females are disposed towards emotion thanks to the emo-instinctual design of their brains.
          Before i post it, let me just say that an amusing turn of events has taken place here. The article you cite here is actually in response to the scientific article that i wanted to share with you, the one that Dr Verma and 9 other academicians/doctors undertook in order to demonstrate legitimate sex differences in the brain. It caused me to do further research on their rebuttal to it. (more on that later) Before i address your submission however, let me post some highlights from mine:
          source: http://www.pnas.org/content/111/2/823.full?sid=114efc1a-a6e1-4b28-8c9b-82afe9d064f3
          “The observations suggest that male brains are structured to facilitate connectivity between perception and coordinated action, whereas female brains are designed to facilitate communication between analytical and intuitive processing modes”
          “Males have better motor and spatial abilities, whereas females have superior memory and social cognition skills”
          “High Modularity and Transitivity in Males”.
          “Of the several indices of network integrity (39), two measures of segregation, modularity and transitivity, are particularly well suited for describing differences in network organization. Modularity describes how well a complex neural system can be delineated into coherent building blocks (subnetworks). Transitivity characterizes the connectivity of a given region to its neighbors. Higher transitivity indicates a greater tendency for nodes to form numerous strongly connected communities. Both modularity and transitivity were globally higher in males”
          “In addition to the connection-wise analysis, we investigated two complementary network measures, modularity and transitivity, at the global level and found these to be higher in males than in females. These measures quantify the sparsity of the connectome, that is, how easily it can be divided into subnetworks. A high lobar-level transitivity points to a region’s neighbors being more strongly connected to each other within each lobe. A higher lobar transitivity showed that local clustering into subnetworks was high in males, resulting in an increased global modularity.”
          “” A behavioral study on the entire sample, of which this imaging study is a subset, demonstrated pronounced sex differences, with the females outperforming males on attention, word and face memory, and social cognition tests and males performing better on spatial processing and motor and sensorimotor speed”
          “These differences were mainly observed in midadolescent age (12–14 y), where males performed significantly faster on motor tasks and more accurately on spatial memory tasks.”
          The vast research presented in this study (which i only briefly referenced) strongly suggests that because female brains are ergonomically designed they must therefore be more efficient in order to facilitate the gray matter communication between the left to right hemispheres (bridging emotion with understanding, essentially) whereas male brains are larger and therefore include more white matter which increases the connectivity between the gray matter to facilitate tasks related to logic and locomotion within the (left) hemisphere, while also possessing a more sophisticated network of sub connections within said (especially region specific) hemisphere(s). (modularity w/ transitivity, respectively)
          In other words, females possess the capacity to think intelligently (and feel emotionally) HOWEVER this capacity is influenced heavily by the symbiotic relationship between their ability to think and feel. Rather than any specific specialty like what you have with Men (logic) female brains seem to operate with redundancy in mind (if you will pardon the pun) in order to biologically grant the template for strong thought and likewise, strong emotion.
          Females may have more gray matter but it gets sabotaged by the emo-instinctual response, which functions as a sort of biological check in order to potentially bring balance within the female brain. (my theory is that it prevents them from maximizing their intellectual potential which would prove pernicious to an emotionally predisposed brain)
          We as males have more white matter (thinking connections) because it makes the gray matter more efficient ergo intelligence and rational logic are a natural psychological predisposition for us. (Iintelligent and reasonable)
          In a sense, females function as a biological check to us, in that your emotional sophistication serves to provide an otherwise inaccessible biological vantage point in order to consider reality from not just a cold, calculated perspective that we would otherwise rely on.
          But i digress.
          All this, in logical concomitance with human history, leads one to invariably conclude that Men have been at the fore of most of all of the advancements in human society (medical, technological, agricultural, etc) because males have been given a biological advantage in not simply possessing the means by which to become intelligent, but also the means by which to MAXIMIZE that intelligence efficiently and effectively. Males are not superior to females on the basis of physiological development alone; it is reason and intelligence and the efficacy to efficiently utilize both that turns a male into a Man and allows him to claim superiority over the female in both respects.
          All the intelligence in the world will prove for naught if it takes you the longest to access it, and your emotions tend to get in the way while accessing it.
          We have no such weakness.
          With regard to the link you posted, where 2 (two) scientists responded to Dr Smith and his team’s research, i see nothing to properly refute their study, merely feelings being passed off as facts in order to try and discredit it:
          ” Clearly figure 2 in ref. 1 does not represent reality, as in reality both males and females have both intra- and interhemispheric connections. The authors only found a difference between the strength ofsome of these connections—that is, a quantitative difference—yet they present it as a qualitative one”
          This statement is specious. It presumes to state as factual that this was the ONLY piece of empirical evidence the team provided, when the research itself tells a different story.
          “Moreover, Ingalhalikar et al. do not provide any data that can help the reader evaluate the size of the differences and therefore corroborate the authors’ conclusion that these differences are indeed fundamental. Specifically, the authors do not provide the number of connections (of the 95 × 95 assessed) that show a sex difference, so we do not know whether the two genders were mainly similar or mainly different.”
          This statement is a red herring. It attempts to once again discredit the research of Dr Ingalhalikar and her team because they didn’t include the specifics of the brains they researched in order to properly determine if they were using brains which were altogether similar or dissimilar.
          This is the equivalent of a cop trying to discredit another cop for not mentioning what paperwork he would use to process a suspect in a statement to the media, when any cop knows that such information is ultimately trivial when compared to the gist of processing the suspect in the first place.
          “Nor do Ingalhalikar et al. provide any estimate of the size of these differences (such as Cohen’s d) that is needed to evaluate the extent of overlap between the distribution of the strength of these connections in males and in females. Such information is needed to determine whether the statistically significant differences are also meaningful.””
          Again, these two offer nothing more substantial in their pedestrian attempt to discredit Dr Ingal than the splitting of hairs.
          “It should be stressed that for any given difference between means, there is a sample size for which this difference will be statistically significant. For example, in a behavioral study in which the imaging subjects were a subset (3), Cohen’s d as small as 0.02 (i.e., the difference between the means of males and females was 2% of the SD) were statistically significant because of the large sample size [∼3,500; the highest Cohen’s d in that study was 0.33 (3)].”
          In other words, because one study showed that x~* was higher using a particular methodology and a particular means, another study using the same methodology but a different means to show that Y~* must therefore be questioned because of the discrepancy. This is rubbish.
          “In sum, instead of data that will enable the reader to judge whether the sex differences found are meaningful, the reader is left with figure 2 in ref. 1, which depicts in a dichotomous way only the connections whose strength was found to be different in males and females. No wonder the main message the reader is left with is of a “male brain” and a “female brain” that seem to have been taken from subjects from different galaxies, not just from different planets.”
          In short, this statement confirms my belief that professor Joel (the probable feminist, impossibly myopic moron who gives paid lectures telling people that male and female brains are no different, which is the medical equivalent of flat earth belief) and Tarrasch are themselves operating on a questionable scientific basis in order to try and debunk the legitimate research of Dr Smith and his team (consisting of 6 males and 4 females, no less) because of their own unscientific junk science predilections.
          …But by all means, don’t take my word for it (not even because of the fact we run in similar circles) take it from the team itself, in their appropriate verbal annihilation of the two butthurt pseudoscientists you base your “peer reviewed” defense on:
          http://www.pnas.org/content/111/6/E638.full?sid=41f14f9d-bc37-4bf7-ae52-55c49eab1e6d

        212. I maintain they are teachable for those who want to learn. I refuse to poison the well and say that women can never understand what men have to deal with. But yes, most are completely ignorant or apathetic as to what men go through on a daily basis.

        213. well, played, although there is an interesting conflict in the discussion of white matter vs. gray matter volumes. As I do not plan on butchering anyone to find out which is true, it might be academic, and have to be relegated to the hands of physiologists rather than those of conflicting brain scientists.

        214. I think that is the key element that men need to dog women on over this whole stupid affirmative consent thing. Make ’em BEG for a fucking.

        215. With your type, we’ll never hear the end of it (the goal post moves all of the time). It’s no longer about equality…it’s about power and control with your group. Equality “jumped the shark” a long time ago.

        216. Kitty Genovese, in New York City, 1964. Murdered (stabbed to death) in the street, yelling and screaming with all the neighbors watching but not a single one ventured out to help.

        217. We’ve made no progress actually. The clothes on your back are still produced by child labor. The welfare/nanny state is modern slavery. Having absolutely no opportunities = join the military. Workers’ rights is becoming irrelevant because there are no jobs. Crime rates are soaring. Children are born out of wedlock at multiple higher rates than even 20 years ago, which is one of the strongest predictors of future incarceration. Young adults pursue meaningless lives of bodily pleasure and self gratification. The nuclear family is dying. Politicians are more corrupt than every before. Public education is a joke. No progress has been made.

        218. The study you are citing is A:Out dated and B: A reflection of an over all 2% difference, even within it’s own limited sample group of test subjects. A 2% difference is not large enough to make any wide spread statements about difference in the male and female brain, which was the point of the article I posted.

        219. First of all, if it is “outdated” i will thank you to provide scientific evidence to support that statement other than your words alone.
          Second, i would hardly call nearly a thousand people “limited.”
          Third: the point of your earlier remark was to obstensibly state that there was no true scientific study claiming that male brains were superior (you even posted from a link to reiterate) and i provided evidence to utterly refute that point. Allow me to refresh your memory: “There is no evidence to support a claim that the male brain is superior to the female brain. None at all.”
          You may disagree that it shows the male brain is superior, but you can”t disagree that it is evidence, unless of course you no longer want to be taken seriously.
          Fourth: Until you can provide legitimate scientific evidence (not just personal pseudo-scientific opinion) refuting Dr’s Ragini and company their research (however theoretical) remains scientifically plausible.
          Fifth: The point of your article aside, its success was in demonstrating that there are people who object to Dr Smith and his team’s research using nothing more scientifically justified than personal opinion. Nothing within it actually refuted the conclusions they arrived at, regardless of their “peer reviewing” feelings to the contrary-as well as yours- which i will again quote from:
          “I will just go ahead and direct you to a Peer Reviewed scientific article to support my claim. I think that should about wrap things up.”
          You can consider your submission a “peer review” but that is only technically correct, since they tried to argue over the technicalities (which amounted to nothing more substantial than a splitting of hairs) without providing true objective analyses of the subject matter. It is a disgrace to science to utilize activism in a peer review and activist scientists are fast becoming a problem within the scientific community which is otherwise taken as practically infallible.
          To conclude: Your article didn’t support your claim, it simply supports the belief that people will butthurt disagree, as you are further providing evidence to indicate. You should just “wrap up” your arrogant presence here because it is clear to anyone reading this that your objections only further substantiate the research indicated (with specific regard to emotional predispositions in females) especially in the words i used to present them.

        221. It’s so funny when feminists try to claim a fallacy and then make a completely empty statement like “read a book.” Or “get educated.”
          First, your video does not apply to my comment. Second, feminists use so much logical fallacy that it seems it is actually intentional. Please take Logic 101 before you try to speak about being educated.

        222. Thank you. It’s been a while since I read the case, and honestly, names have never been my strong suit.

        223. Thank you, but it’s really just logical. Additionally , it’s counter productive. The accusation of rape has become a weapon and a passive one at that.

        224. Men wrote that definition. I would have no problem with a gender neutral definition, but men have historically refused to define rape as a sexually universal crime.

        225. It’s a catch 22 (just like men reporting abuse by the hand of a woman). There is a stigma that goes along with it (by society) and shaming. Women are not shamed if or when reporting abuse (or rape) but men do get shamed (or laughed at). It’s a serious problem and a catch 22.
          The problem isn’t going away and there is more light being shed on the problem everyday. Women have played their role, as well, in creating certain (writing) certain laws that aren’t gender neutral. Don’t give them a pass.

        226. I should say men wrote the initial definition. Oh, there is shame for women and stigma, but society doesn’t judge a woman for false accusations. They should.

        227. It’s also a cheap shot… Falsely accusing them. It’s an attempt to play people’s passions over their intellect. I would find it beneath me personally.

        228. Yes, that’s what I really meant. It’s just that it (seems) hard to find someone with enough common sense and chutzpah to come right out and say so.

        229. Is that at all similar to carefully mentioning your income in order to support your own superiority? If you read carefully, I used the somewhat vague description of “bright” for comparison: not to feed my ego. The comparison was intended to show the differences between men and woman and the way they think. I also said I “feel” like a genius. I didn’t say I was one nor do I need or want your adulation. However, considering your vastly superior intellect, you might want to look up “psychopathy” and “fantasy” isn’t the word you were looking for. Additionally, your documentation, considering this is the internet, and we’ve never met, is notably ironic.

        230. Challenge accepted. Ignore legal equality.. Men and women are, in fact different, but it’s not a competition. Equality means that I empathize and respect your experiences, expect the same standards and treatment that you expect from both the government and societal institutions, and I respect your rights, human and legal, as holding equal weight as my own provided they do present a threat or crime. All the rest of it, my personal expectations, who I want on the list for Nobel Prize, my view of my own safety and personal responsibility, are up to me.

        231. Sure, that’s a nice broad statement that’s easy to agree with. But the devil is in the details. What happens when your interests conflict with mine?
          (Thanks btw for the reply)

        232. I hope you don’t mean opinions… An interest isn’t necessarily a right, but entertaining that interest (not necessarily participating) and expressing that interest are protected. Your rights shouldn’t be denied unless they actively violate mine. Then, it becomes a matter of which right is fundamental and reasonable and whether or not options existed to protect this right.

        233. I’ll agree that your definition seems pretty fair and balanced– and Egalitarian. As I indicated above, it’s when issues collide that a philosophy is truly tested. Simply knowing that you’re open to a fair hearing is enough. We don’t have to hash over specifics.
          I don’t consider that a “Feminist” viewpoint though, but rather an Egalitarian one. Perhaps you don’t agree, and I can accept that. I don’t like “Feminism”, but am not going to quibble over the name with someone who appears fair-minded in all other respects.

        234. Good and evil tend to be used to create dividing lines in society. They say a man who committed a heinous act is “evil”, but this simply serves as a means to distance themselves and that person. People are not “evil”; they are human. Moral codes are actually more societal than based on any one belief system. I believe we all have the capacity to commit criminal acts. It’s merely a question of breaking points.

        235. I am not a feminist. I haven’t been in years. Our priorities are simply to different for me to call myself a feminist. I am a humanist. Contrary to popular opinion, you don’t have to me feminist to be an empowered woman. It’s funny how people seem to think philosophical differences are personal affronts. In reality, I don’t need you to share my opinion or belief. I only need you to respect my right to have one.

        236. In fact, my philosophies are quite different that the majority view here. I am more liberal than conservative, my view of women, abortion, I’m an agnostic, I encourage women’s open sexuality, even my view of myself, but I don’t need to discount the opinions here in order to add credence to those beliefs. In fact, the fact that I don’t agree easily makes your argument even more important.

        237. “I only need you to respect my right to have one.”
          And I do.
          And I only assumed you identified yourself as a Feminist from your previous statement about “Accepting my challenge” which was for a Feminist to define “equality” in an equitable manner– “I’ve never met a Feminist in my life who could even define the word, much less who held to its ideal.”

        238. I do not generally hold lock-step, knee-jerk opinions either. I prefer to consider the subject from as many viewpoints as I can, and come to my own conclusions. And I’m generally open to new information (I hope! 😉 and interpretations, and to revisit my conclusions in the face of new evidence or insights. I don’t mind admitting when I’m wrong (not that I ever have been or anything… but it could happen)

        239. Equality is actually hard for most people to define and harder for them to support when it doesn’t go their way. It’s a bit like justice. People think it means that people get what they deserve. It actually means that everyone is treated the same. It refers to procedural law. In fact, you find that it is when people are being treated exactly the same that they are most likely to feel mistreated.

        240. It’s a bit like a “square deal” where either party could accept either side and be equally happy (or unhappy).

        241. I am very wary of my ability to be biased. I also know that bias is just a few steps from ignorance and prejudice. I studied law to help those who were trapped without rights or options, and now, i try to apply that theory to life.

        242. I am very glad to have met you. I look forward to reading your comments as I run into them!

        243. It’s a generally accepted belief that rights are limited and should only be awarded to those deemed deserving: as though we might run out. In reality, extending the rights of others helps to cement your own. It’s just a game politicians play convincing the public that one group or another doesn’t deserve them. After all, they have nothing to lose.

        244. You too, but be careful… I read that women are intent on the Lucerifian (I think that was the word) agenda of abomination. You might be irreversibly contaminated.

        246. Exactly. Western propaganda loves a scapegoat. The trick is to make sure you choose a group that is marginalized and generally hated. You don’t want a pesky revolution on your hands.

        247. Not to mention that it can interfere with your funding if you pick the wrong one.

        248. Exactly. the trick seems to be to use fear and rampant misinformation to dehumanize a group that is already historically discriminated against to the point that it has become socially acceptable.

        249. So do you think that’s an inherent human quality or a learned trait? Or are some people just born politicians?

        250. I think there are some common personality types found in politics, but that alone wouldn’t explain it. Most people in positions of political power have never experienced being an average American. Money and influence have carefully shielded them from that. Poverty, unemployment , starvation… These are political talking points. The people who experience them are just statistics which allows for some disturbing dehumanization. Finally, absolute power corrupts absolutely… And our government is absolutely corrupt. Durkheim over a hundred years ago explained that the majority will sacrifice fringe groups because nothing motivates the public like someone to persecute and blame without being judged, and when you only view the top five percent as people, it’s probably easy to tell yourself that sacrificing therm is a moral imperative, and it’s their fault for failing to to comply to social norms. The greater good so to speak… In fact, you can identify exacts legislation by phrases like “moral imperative” and references to that “greater good”.

        251. “he greater good so to speak… In fact, you can identify exacts legislation by phrases like “moral imperative” and references to that “greater good”.”
          It’s interesting that “eminent domain” never seems to happen to rich people.

        253. IMO, that’s one of the most egregious violations of the government / civil “contract”. I don’t like the idea of eminent domain, but I could live with it a lot better if it were more fairly applied. Not to mention that it would go a VERY long way towards encouraging good corporate citizenship. Any time a company gets too uppity or too greedy (with respect to returning goodness to the communities they serve), the people could always decide that a park where their factory is would bring a “better value” to the community… I think it could provide a terrific leveler. Or else, we could do away with the notion altogether.

        254. Personally, I question the motives of an interpretation of the Constitution that provides a corporation with human rights. Even if we reject the simple fact that the founding fathers didn’t actually propose revolution to secure the rights of walmart you still have the small problem that corporations, unlike people, so not actually have a fundamental right to a religious belief, and expression, or even free speech. A corporation is comprised of various people with varying beliefs that can not be protected by applying rights to a corporation.

        255. Me too. A “Mr. E”-ism: Companies exist for the purposes of people, not the other way around.
          When this maxim gets perverted our society suffers. I have nothing against Capitalism, but they should be limited to the size of direct human competition, meaning corporations should only be allowed a local influence. I think it would be okay for collectives and cooperatives formed out of multiple local corporations to have a larger regional scope. But they shouldn’t be allowed to grow so large that they can swamp local and regional competition. I think that is one of the biggest problems that’s wrong in this country, that people can’t effectively compete against large, big-monied interests. I think it is far more important for people to be able to make a living than for huge monopolistic corporations to exist. Capitalism is a good thing so far as it is able to reward ambitious people. But when it grows to the point that it stifles competition then it does more harm than good.
          IMO.

      7. I’m curious, do you find this film unappealing, or offensive? Clarey’s article came off as genuinely offended, and I can’t help but question the sensibilities of a person who becomes offended when a movie is not made for them. Likewise I find it interesting that the interjection of dissenting voices on this website is so disturbing to you both. I assure you that there are not spaces on the internet where women are not trolled by men. As a matter of fact there are very few street corners without similar issues if you are a woman living in a city. On the whole men have been granted a far greater portion of privileged space, where they can reasonably assume they won’t be attacked. I wonder if the stress around female protagonists in big budget action flicks isn’t a reflection of the anxiety men feel about giving up their positions of undue privilege in society? You’re right that things are changing, equality is creeping up. For many, spoiled, privileged men, equality is terrifying. But there is no reason to lash out like this. You learned to share the sand box when you were a toddler. You can learn to live in the new world too. Try and understand that while you feel persecuted because you have to give up just ONE action movie where the hero has the same genitals as you, that women are fighting around the globe for basic human rights. Like the right to be alive. Like the right to walk home at night and not be abducted. Like the right to drive in some parts of the world. Yours is not the greater tragedy. Not by a long shot.

        3. The problem with the western concept of equality is that it assume people should be equal – this is a social construct that needs to be dismantled before society can make progress
          Men by nature should be more privileged, and dominant over women, as should majorities and the normative over minorities
          What you’ve done is appeal to compassion, which is not relevant in the first place

        4. Men don’t need more privilege. Nature has already seen to it that we have all the superiority we need.
          We just need to stop getting stabbed in the balls by other men. Women? Obviously irrelevant.

        5. The problem isn’t in it having a female protagonist, it’s in false advertisement and forcing a tough female hero down our throat in a movie that shouldn’t have one to begin with. I see no problem with Lara Croft being the main protagonist of tomb raider and I see nothing wrong with Ripley being the main character in Alien, why? Because both movies never tried to pose as something they weren’t. For both movies I knew from the get go: it will be an action flick with a female protagonist. Unlike Mad Max: Fury Road where they decided to keep quite about that one up until a week ago. Essentially making us believe that the movie was indeed about Max, while the truth was that Max is mostly there for a ride while the real spotlight is taken by Theron’s character.
          If they titled the movie Furiosa, I would’ve seen no problem with it, but since they decided to use the hype and fame of the Mad Max franchise to force a feminist narrative upon us, I think I have the right to fell slightly offended, not because they sold us a feminist movie, but because they tought that we will be to stupid to realize that it in fact was a feminist movie.

        6. “I can’t help but question the sensibilities of a person who becomes offended when a movie is not made for them.”
          So you’re agreeing with his assertion that it’s a “Feminist” movie then.

        8. We do have exploitable weaknesses that women can take advantage of in contrast to our dealings with outside threats.
          For example being poisoned and assassinated in our sleep etc.

        9. Not to mention being manipulated into getting ourselves killed, ie. “Let’s You and Him fight.”
          Frankly, the problem with feminism is that Women have ALWAYS been subtly ‘in charge’, and removing that illusion that we rule is highly destructive to both men and women.
          Not to mention their emphasis on supporting gays, without realizing that gays are the one group that can destroy them.

        10. ”Women have ALWAYS been subtly ‘in charge’,”
          What MGTOW’s call gynocentrism. Or some people called trad-fem.

        11. In essence, it’s an inverse leadership. What men do, they do for the sex, or the benefit of women. What we innovate, is almost always for the benefit of women. If a cure for cancer is discovered, it will come as a side effect of us ‘saving the boobies’. When we go to war, it is almost always for greater resources for the women.

        12. The current MGTOW or at least the online movement are trying to change that. Propagating the idea that women shouldn’t be coddled and hence be forced to evolve and be mature. Screw inverse leadership they say Male sovereignty instead.

        14. Of course I am an independent agent. But as for the sentiment I am getting from their media is true.

      8. I agree. I’ve had an influx of trolling on a couple of my comments. But what’s really worrying is how unbelievably dumb the comebacks from them are. And I mean that sincerely. These people are straight up dumb, IQ’s no higher than around 90. Then again, science has proven through data and research that men are smarter, so I suppose I shouldn’t be as shocked as I am.

      9. Since the movie industry is filled with similar minded fucks it’s no wonder the movies are unoriginal, copy paste bland imitations of past glorifies good movies.
        Inserting propaganda on a sissifing movement like feminist is not a way to make the movie better.

      10. This is awesome!! Pansy man-boys whining about women taking over. Newsflash: real men don’t find women threatening. You sound like a scared little girl.

        1. What do real men do that you’re so goddamn sure of then, Einstein? Do enlighten us.

      11. KEy concept: never argue with them. Ignore them. If they catch your attention, they win as they pull you to their field. Only discuss with people who provide logic-based arguments (either in favor or against). Trust me, that drives them nuts.

      12. The best thing is to ignore these guys. I am as guilty as anyone else but all arguing with them does is ruin the comments section. I want to read insightful comments from you guys not endless back and forth mud slinging with dickheads.

      13. Sorry bro, but if that stuff worked, feminism would have been shut down decades ago. You can’t win by arguing, no amount of logic, reason or fairness matters. Your time is too valuable to waste on these people.

        1. Wasn’t trying to “win” anything, wanted to pour on the assholishness and belittle them (especially the mangina white knights) every which way and call them out on their bullshit, especially when they toss out their routine tropes like “You have a small dick, Mommy’s basement dweller!” or “Douchebag, creeper! Douchebag, creeper!”.
          Ever notice how the weak and the pathetic follow a sort of herd mentality, and are essentially copycats of each other? Go figure!

    4. fyi, i once or twice tried to argue a redpillic point on these sites and the comments usually got deleted within a day. i stopped to bother then.
      it’s fascinating to see, actually. we delete their comments, they delete ours. that way, each group creates their own bubble. without advocating relativism, i think it quite nicely sums up the bullshittic idea of democracy.

      1. Most comments here stay, even the nasty ones. Exceptions of course. Over a Rollo’s blog he deletes nobody. End of the day we are far more tolerant than they are.

        3. Not any longer. Cinder Ella is a chick.

        8. Maybe we should stop being so tolerant.
          The troll comments really derail everything.

        9. They’ll delete your comments and ban you. They must control the coversations..no debates.

        12. feminists are socialists. And socialists hate free speech. Their opinion is the only right opinion.

        13. Where exactly are you getting you information from? If your goal is to convince people of facts, please back them up. I would love to see you try to support that last one with facts…

        14. That happens when you’re making an insanely illogical argument, and someone with a brain shows up.

        15. Starting to see the light myself.
          I mean they do it to us (censor) and us not doing it to them NEVER leads to them seeing the error of their nazi ways and deciding to
          stop doing it to us.
          What’s the point in convincing people that BELIEVE in doing nazi stuff that you’re better than them cuz you don’t do nazi stuff?
          We probably just come of as weak that way.

        17. Where I’m getting my information from? I live in the Netherlands, a socialist country. I’ve seen how a rival “right-wing” politician got vilified, then murdered because he was an electoral threat. (search for Pim Fortuyn) The countless coverups the leftwing parties fail at, the public service television that preaches socialist ideas and again vilifies others. Socialists in Europe think they are morally superior, flirting with Islam, bringing millions of refugees inside our borders, they impose heavy taxes, affirmative action for decades, make deals with criminals, throw taxpayer money down the drain spending it on “art” or some other project where others knew from the beginning it would be a failure. etc. Socialism is a diseases, it a parasite ideology. It spoils the useless and punishes the successful.

        18. Deleting troll comments isn’t Nazi-like behavior, its just a matter of keeping the discussion on track.
          The people who come here and troll aren’t interested engaging in discussion, they only want to shut things down. If you respond to them and leave all their comments, then you’re actually helping them.

      2. We do not delete their comments. We let them run and validate our positions. Yes, I have heard they delete men posting on their sites…of course they do. Get it? The only comments deleted are trollers posting tons of dumb pics.

        1. we do ban them, though, or is that some kind of inside joke i didn’t yet get? i wouldn’t want this site to become a battleground between hordes of sjws and men.

      3. That’s the problem with democracy. Nobody should have to suffer fools, nor fools have to suffer other fools in a more cynical approach. People exclaim they have “the right to be heard” but overlook the right of others to ignore them.
        The problem is that people can hide in a voting booth and turn their opinions into laws enforced at gunpoint. Meaning that we can ignore them but their ideas will come to us in the form of laws.
        Then we try to opinion back and what happens? Posts get deleted. The problem is democracy. I long for a day when we can actually ignore these mentally ill SJWs and then “not have to worry” about what they do in a voting booth. And if that day can’t come, then I look forward to a day when a burned out soldier or cop is thrusting a rifle and a uniform at these SJWs and saying “Fuck off. You want it this way, YOU do it”.
        Most of them will break down and piss themselves.

        2. If democracy was a person it would be a skinny tight jeans wearing hipster faggot with a che t-shirt and a coexist sticker on his car.
          Behind him would be a central banker covered in shadow who when not cornholing him would pat the hard part on his lady boy’s retro haircut.

        3. The bigger problem is that democracy and freedom are not the same thing, regardless of popular consensus. they need to balance each other. Instead, one side sacrifices freedom for democracy whole the other sacrifices democracy for freedom. How backwards does it seem that we only have rights when we’re deemed deserving enough and only after they’ve been taken away? It has always stuck me as backwards.

      4. Just experienced the comments being deleted myself. Should have really ignored that magina as we must have been on the same site briefly. I saw Another poster there as well.

        1. i don’t think that it’s a phenomenon restricted to a particular site. you wouldn’t want to trigger anyone now, would you.

      5. There are many who seem to think that politics today is more polarized than it’s ever been.
        If this is true I wonder if it’s because of the internet.
        When you think about it the internet allows like minded folks that up till now were always geographically separated to get together and form echo chambers.
        If that happens then that would mean many folks holding on to extremist views today that would otherwise be tempered by the influence of more different thinking people in their lives.

    5. “An awakening is occurring and the modern age is making it easier to get the word out.”

    6. The feminazi sites might also be better at banning trolls and removing their posts.
      I haven’t been reading much these past few days, but I know there’s been a huge problem for a little while now with trolls coming here and stirring up trouble. Judging by the willingness of a lot of people here to totally engage the trolls, I’m sure there’s plenty of people who go and troll the feminazi sites. You probably don’t see it because it gets removed.
      Part of the problem with the feminazis trolling RoK is that plenty of people here will gladly take part in their antics. It buries the good comments.

      1. Just look at kinja. You can’t post anything until it’s been reviewed first then approved. Gotta weed out any possible triggers.
        And by triggers I mean independent thought.

      1. I wouldn’t be so optimistic. The bad guys are winning but at least people like me aren’t going out without a fight.
        It’s this “modern age” of which you speak that is signaling your destruction.
        Oh well, we’ll all be happier in that spirit world that doesn’t exist, right…

        3. The fact is that female human rights activists are women who run about trying to convince men to actually do something about it. They never accomplish much on their own.

    8. I do think it’s a good idea and use a bogus feminazi identity and create drama in these feminist site/blogsand get their granny panties in a bunch. Infiltrate divide and destroy. If it works for the C.I.A and the F.B.I, it’s gotta work for the men of ROK. I think Ill go to google images and download my miserable, green haired, face pearced ,ear plug wearing diesel dike avatar right now.

    9. It’s so funny seeing women troll ROK. I would never even consider going to sites like elite daily or jazebelle just to troll them.

    10. Exposing their bs is what i live for. I don’t mind doing the dirty work if it serves a purpose, like helping the mangina that is on the fence and questioning his indoctrination for the first time, for instance.
      There’s no sense in arguing with them because of their indoctrination, but as Roosh essentially said, if any exposure of our cause can help at least one person be disconnected from the matrix, the effort itself is well worth it.
      The trolls are doing their best to refute me and others but the only thing they are successful at is demonstrating the utter futility of their actions and the utter unremarkable nature of the thoughts that spawn them.

      1. Oh look at this one he uses big words so thinks he’s smart! You guys are hilarious!

        1. No, i tend to use sophisticated lexicon to supplement my vast knowledge base. It is the icing on the cake of cognizance that i give trolls like you a taste of whenever you hopelessly try to debate me 🙂

      2. “utter unremarkable nature of the thoughts”
        ************
        “Oh look at this one he uses big words so thinks he’s smart! You guys are hilarious!”
        ————————-
        Speak of the Devil.

    11. To be fair, I’d be all over left wing outlets if they didn’t keep banning me

    13. The fact that by far the main form of argument feminist trolls come up with in every article is to either say you have a “small dick, are a virgin, lives in mums/dads basement or you hate women” just proves they have no real scientific or logical counter arguments so they just give out the same insults.

    14. Yes. This kind of exposure is exactly what ROK needs. The mainstream try to use their shaming tactics like they do for every issue, and don’t realize it has zero power here. The whole mainstream is a nagging bitch to us and dealing with those is nothing but a reflex here.
      Many of the frustrated betas are now finding ROK while at their boiling point and will end up switching camps. The cat is out of the bag. The quarter ton kind with black stripes.

    15. “How many men troll the sites geared towards females? Nill.” this is just plain false. like have you never seen trolls on feminist sites, pages, posts, tweets, what have you? do you just not look for it, and then claim you have never seen it and that counts as proof? jeez

  8. There’s no such thing as bad publicity. If 1 in 10 of the army of progs that come to this site because of the publicity stick around and begin to challenge their indoctrination then it was a successful post.

      1. She could have done those push ups with one hand tied behind her back. Which actually means with no hands at all given that she’s only got one hand

        1. To address the article. Good job. Any publicity is good.
          Regarding heros, could she team up with Demi Moore, Jennifer Lawrence, and all the other fem-male bad asses in the new movies put out in the last few years?
          A sort of ‘Un-Expendables’?

      2. At 39, 48, and 63. There are no barriers to what a woman can do.

    2. There’s talk of lowering the physical standards in order for women to enter frontline combat, so Popp takes a look at the tests from the Center for Military Readiness, conducted by the US Marine Corps.

      1. That pretty much says it all–feminists would even jeopardize national security to push their fairytale of equality.

    4. “Most of these individuals will never allow themselves to accept how
      unnatural and phony it is to have female heroes who are as strong as
      men…”
      Not only that, the very idea and notion of a “female hero” runs contrary to what is truth and reality. The idea of a “male hero” rings true on a primal level.. because men are the risk-takers.. the warriors.. the ones with the physical strength who are always the ones to sacrifice themselves to defend their tribe, clan or nation. No culture or civilization that wants to survive is going to send out “female warriors” to defend them. A society that allows its women to take risks and die will find itself demographically barren very quickly not to mention will lose every time against an army of male warriors. Women are the child-bearers and are physically weaker of the two sexes. This is the biological reality. A society can afford to lose men in battle and for all the risky undertakings.. but it cannot afford to lose women.
      Secondly, and I’ve made this point many times before… it makes sense for a man to risk his life for glory and riches and status. because it allows him to rise in the male dominance hierarchy, and increases the number of sexually attractive women and mates that will be interested in him. For a man, the potential payoff and rewards, i.e, more pussy and women, are worth it. For women, it is the exact opposite.. in that taking a risk to achieve anything gives her zero advantages when it comes to finding a mate.. her mating prospects actually decreases.. because the more accomplished and high status a woman is, the smaller the pool of men she’s interested in. And correspondingly, men aren’t impressed by or interested in a woman’s accomplishments and social status. Men value women primarily for their beauty, youth and fertility.
      And so male heroes who risk their lives to defend their clan and tribe and nation and to find new territories to conquer “makes sense” on a primal and fundamental level. It rings true. Female “heroes,” especially “ass-kicking” bitches who supposedly can beat up men twice as strong and powerful as her, are nothing but an artificial social construct of our politically correct, feminist culture and are phoney.. they just don’t ring true and will never carry the same mythic value and truth that stories and tales of male archetype heroes do.
      This is why men here react so strongly and viscerally to these “ass-kicking” female feminist cunts. They are false. They are phoney. They are damaging to the culture and to masculinity. A society needs to cultivate its real male heroes and not non-existent “female heroes”.. because in the real world and not some Hollywood feminist fantasy of “strong,” “empowered” ass-kicking women like in Hunger Games and now Mad Max , it will be men and only men who will be ones to fight and deal with the real male psychopaths, brutes and savages. The real baddies, and they do exist, don’t give a shit about “female empowerment” and feminism. They will rape and take as sex slaves the women as they always have. A society that neuters its males and that doesn’t cultivate masculinity and men capable of administrating measured and just violence, and men willing to risk their lives against the real baddies isn’t one that is going to last very long. And the women and these deluded feminists will be the ones who will suffer the most when the real barbarians and brutes show up. Then they’ll know what “rape culture” really is. I’m starting to think this is exactly what they deserve for their feminist bullshit and attempts to emasculate Western men.

  10. Contrary to popular belief, anti-feminism is not purely an MRA thing. The claims that everything anti-feminist comes from MRAs is proof that feminist-logic is anything but logic.

  11. That’s about ten million dollars worth of free publicity for the site right there.
    Or more.

  12. Sorry, guys, there is no such thing as bad PR. Lots of people will see the movie because of the criticism, even though it’s accurate.

  13. “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
    Or something like that~ Ghandi.

  14. To me a modern “journalist” is either a woman who did God-knows-what to get her job or a mangina hipster who just likes to brag about his job and where they send him the way hipsters like to brag about every nerve they twitch to feign superiority (I’m especially looking at you, Vice!).
    Get a real job, you fucking lowlifes.

    1. In the right hands, and with integrity, journalism can be one of the most important professions there is.
      As it is, it is simply a propaganda arm of the elites, with a few exceptions, like Glenn Greenwald

  15. I find it funny that you call them “typists” instead of “writers” or “journalists”

  16. This is why I dropped out of college while pursuing a bachelor’s degree in communications.

  17. A big salute to the MSM for getting our word out and in front of millions of people! For every snark there may well be a man who agrees with the premise we posited, and comes here for more information.
    Again, thank you MSM! It feels great to be on your list for the Five Minute Hate sessions you hold. Heh

    2. Honestly, If this site didn’t have as much enemies as it did I would’ve never heard of it in the first place. I came on this site a year ago, expecting it to be full of the butthurt women haters, only to learn that the actual people who frequent the site were far more sane and reasonable than their adversaries painted them to be. Hell, those motherfuckers did both you and me a favor, my game and quality of life has never been better.

      2. My own red pill ticket came a few years ago courtesy of Lady Raine (anyone here remember her?).
        I had stumbled onto her blog in the process of following links about unrelated subject matter (I recall I was researching something called “Peripheral Vision Startle Reflex” a phenomenon believed by some psychologists to account for cabin fever).
        On one post she was ranting and raving about these guys that called themselves PUAs.
        She was basically saying how awful it was that these guys were cheating women of their God given right to a man’s love, money and attention.
        I thought “I gotta check this shit out!” and opened a Pandora’s box.

        1. “My own red pill ticket came a few years ago courtesy of Lady Raine (anyone here remember her?).”
          I remember her. . she used to post on Roissy’s blog, which is now called Heartiste, right? And she was the single mother slut who outed Roissy…

    3. I am calling MSM “the menstural media” from now on..
      I think this was a big mistake on their part. First crack so to speak…

  18. Out of all the RoK articles the media could have used for public ridicule, they chose the one that needed to be shown to the males out there. Well, mission accomplished; they did the job for us. How’s that for irony?

  19. I didn’t see that movie about men having sex on a broken mountain either. Not because I don’t respect men that twirl their stir sticks in other men’s fecal matter – rather – it’s just not my forte.
    I didn’t see that hungry game movie either. Not because I don’t respect women hiding the fact that they’re abject cowards that have hidden behind men for time immortal – it’s just that I know better.
    Now this. It’ll never end. With each day that passes, I’m so glad I’m unmarried and work in a primarily male dominated field. In this way, I have complete control over the remote. I do however feel sorry for future generations of men.

  20. Great judo move on part of ROK for getting so much media attention in regard to this film’s feminist content.
    If I read any of those articles even in my ultra-liberal Marxist days I would have boycotted the film as well.
    Thanks to Ariana Huffington’s mob, every guy out there knows he might as well spend ten bucks to go see “Notting Hill”

    1. Real man right here.
      That is the sound of a massive nutsack plopping against a keyboard.

      1. I haven’t been impressed with another actor besides him in a long time. This dude made that fucking movie.

  23. I put “mad max feminist propaganda” in google search. the amount of articles like the ones listed above is overwhelming. However, I am very glad we struck a nerve. Lets keep fighting the good fight!

  24. Just one caveat to ROK staff; maybe next time wait until after the film’s opening weekend to post an article of this nature (we expect more as situations call for it). Although people say a lot of things they have no intention of following-up on, I did see lots of comments on those sites saying “I had no intention of seeing this before reading Clarey’s article, now I definitely will on opening weekend!” especially by obvious manginas. It may or may not be a substantial amount of people to really make a difference at the box office who do this, but this shows us that it’s somewhat putting the cart before the horse.

    1. The important thing is that I’M not going to see it now because I read the article. I don’t care who spends money to see this, as long as it isn’t me.

  25. You’re a group of douchebags, and that’s why no one is happy with you. some fuckface commenter actually advocates psychologically abusing his daughter in order to break her and make her more compliant. he needs to have his face kicked in.

        2. Why do you hate women? You are using an innocent woman you don’t know and assume her sexuality, like a sexist, then insult her. What a misogynist, aye yay yay.

        3. Why do you hate men? Would you be here if some unfortunate man hadn’t stuck his penis in that thing that birthed you?
          No. You wouldn’t.
          Would you be here if some man hadn’t defended your ancient female ancestor from physical harm? No. You wouldn’t.
          Again, you owe your very existence to people like me, so why do you hate us all?

      2. Hey Pearlbuck, its you and me that “hate”…didn’t see any hate in that comment above. No no.

        1. Yeah, yet you’re on board for beating and abusing yiur female offspring to make them better servants. Epic fail, loser.

        2. Nice try, cunt. Stop with the pathetic fallacies, you’re making an ass out of yourself.

    2. Actually most of us here came down on that person. Nice try at guilt by association though.
      Ever notice how your kind cannot level any kind of criticism without throwing out the word “fuck”? A classless lot you are, to be certain, and you rather serve to demonstrate our point about the anti-intellectual underpinnings of your belief system. But that’s ok, do carry on lad.

        1. Quite right. When it comes to predictability, they never fail to satisfy.

        2. I am starting to think that all the SJW are just bots. They are paid people that sit in a room troll sites and bash the “manosphere”. Think about it, all their logic, insults, and language is all the same. Like they are reading off a sales script!

        3. Actually that may be closer to the truth than you imagine. Ten people can look like thousands on the Internet.

        5. For sure! After the whole Mad max thread. I just kept thinking to my self that all the trolling is the exact same thing. Nothing new or intelligent being said its all regurgitated BS and the same style of insults ie. the small dick, never get laid, douchebags, hate your mother etc…Its all early in the same tone and context.

        6. You’d think that they’d notice our laughing at their unoriginal Hivemind insults. Alas, the left never was known for its sense of humor.

        7. They are bots indeed. You see the same kind in meatspace, at various protests. Most of them don’t know what or why they’re protesting, and are often bussed in and paid to be there.

        1. A lot of things confound you in life, it appears. It must be quite disconcerting, men talking freely and questioning outside of your ability to censor them. After a lifetime of being told only your views matter, the shock to the system a truth based site must give has to be staggering.
          Notice how all you have is anger in your life? You are literally livid at words others are saying, and you are trying to silence them with your ritual shaming techniques. Unfortunately lad, those do not work here. All you are doing is validating our observations and making us laugh.
          Your blood pressure is going to pop if you hang around much longer. Do get some rest. If you don’t have your health, you don’t have anything.

      3. Most of them lack self control which is what happens when you flood a male brain with estrogen.

        1. Quite so. It explains their ideology actually. They project everything, so when they want government to control everything they are actually saying that left on *their* own, they’d be untrustworthy and immoral and violent. Says a lot really.

      1. Fucking gibberish and what’s worse is that this thing thinks its smart for believing in feminism.

      1. Be careful, he belongs to the elite 231st internet Warrior Brigade!

  26. How dare some writer report on the fact that Mad Max is not a remake of Mad Max, and that it is being praised in the mainstream press as feminist propaganda.
    “Here’s a surprise: Tom Hardy, a.k.a. Mad Max, isn’t the star of Mad Max: Fury Road. Charlize Theron is. An even bigger surprise? Vagina Monologues author Eve Ensler consulted on what turns out to be a very feminist film….Theron, not Hardy, leads the charge; she also does the majority of the fighting.” –TIME MAGAZINE

  27. This is good.
    Despite the Guardian being the tabloid equivalent of a Mangina Bible, any exposure in the mainstream media is good. The issues raised will resonate with some closet red-pillers, and they might take the opportunity to check out ROK, and see what all the fuss is about.
    At that point, they might realize that the website for “trolling feminists”, is nothing of the sort. Its a place where men can support each other, point out feminist-inspired injustices and hypocrisy, and learn about game and self improvement.

    1. the guardian’s full of manginas, but the feminism in that paper is no insanely vitriolic a lot of the self-same male-muff-diners are actually getting pretty sick of it. You can almost sense the simmering resentment amongst the worms-who-have-quite-yet-turned. There’s a market to be tapped

        2. Of course, that’s why I’ve always been optimistic on the men’s movement, if you will. Look at society, its doing and has done everything to marginalize and alienate men, which in turn pushes them towards us.

  28. Fucking great. All we need to do is spread awareness. feminism, because its a supremacists nonsense movement, does the rest by driving men and even women towards us. Like the matrix they just need to find the red pill.

    1. So are you. God, people think you guys know how to debate. Hahaha. Funny shit.

    1. All I see is blonde, red head, brunette…

  33. Instead of calling out idiots for falling for a blatant feminist marketing scheme, you played right into their hands calling for a boycott. I can guarantee you that the director/producers give zero shits about a feminist agenda. They’re worried about getting asses in seats. Now what do you imagine the main demographic of a new Mad Max movie is going to be? It’s going to men, it’s going to be dudes who like action flicks. Now, how better to get women to see this film than to state that you’ve been consulting the writer of the vagina monologues?! On top of that evil boogyman MRAs are calling for a boycott! Do your vaginal duty and show up at the theater for Mad Max! You wont need to convince your boyfriend or husband! They already want to go see it….it’s fucking basic shit people. I’ve already seen at least 4 feminists on my facebook feed giving free advertising for this movie and with an “MRA” boycott you can expect that free advertising to double. Next time just call the bullshit, don’t play into stupid.

    1. I can guarantee you that the studio cares very much about the feminist agenda.

    2. Hollywood is at the very centre of the of the feminist New World Order

    3. vaginal duty, hahaha. don’t be so inhumane, devoinz, you might trigger someone who has experienced having a vagina.
      just curious, though, why do you have feminists in your friends list?

      1. Mostly for a laugh…but also as a reminder that this shit is real. Not just on tumblr…real people that I know, actually believe this bullshit…it’s pretty amazing

  34. indeed, perfect marketing.
    a gal named lea mentioned my website as some kind of example of evilness, which got me about a hundred views with astoundingly low bounce rate – from a single comment. i’m so fucking proud.
    amazing how much publicity these portals have. maybe we can leverage their keen interest in us further by analyzing their interests. any marketers around here?

  35. Haha stupid mainstream media! All they are doing is giving a massive amount of free advertising for RoK, bringing lots of new people here and increasing the ad revenue for Roosh to buy more plane tickets to Poosy Paradise. Hail to the Kings!!

  36. Apparently no one at RoK bothered to watch the third Mad Max before bitching about female characters.

        1. Actually by calling you a dummy, he did. The article covered MM3. If you’d read it, you’d know that. So you made a stupid comment which he called you a dummy for. Get it?

        2. Really so there wasn’t a strong character played by Tina Turner in the third one? Oh yeah there was. Dummy.

  37. It’s funny becuase it’s clear what’s going on Hollywood the great whore is rearing her makeup plastered face, yet again. They will jump on any bandwagon and beat any drum, now they are fully embracing the feminist. Nothing is truly funny or original all Hollywood does is take the natural oder of things and switch them around then go to an award show where they pat each other on the back. Then get on stage and thank God for an award for taking off there clothes and getting plowed in a movie. Of course if you object you are a pick an adjective, bigot, hater, homophobe, racist so just shut your filthy mouth and buy our movie and well put a trannie in there in a couple years. Nothing is sacred im talking about real issues I never even saw the first mad max but this is just the tip of the iceberg. They are trying to push this on us that males and females are interchangeble for say a president or to let them in the infantry, and that males can be subordinate to females and it’ll still work even be better.

    1. Yes, but consider what you just said. And, I very much agree with you, BTW. Art is originality, to dampen or suffocate it, among many other things, reduces the quality, if not kills the art. And its showing up in ratings across the board. And the comments on the articles discussing the ratings drop are almost uniformly harping on the forced political correctness etc. This may appear to be a huge behemoth but hollywood is killing themselves. Elsewhere, the new medium, the web, is very quickly displacing the old media. And the beauty of the new media is that it is very personalized. So if a minority of women (angry lesbians with mental issues and/or can’t get a man) desire this shit it will only be a very small group that is exposed to it. Alternatively, you and I will have our own media/cultural channel that we will customize to fit our own values and worldview. Don’t want to see any homosexuals, for instance, done.

      1. I agree with you also, this is a war though and I believe the male who stands for morality is losing across the board even if the the man who just doesn’t want feminism wins. I believe any camp will be infiltrated. I can relate to this site somewhat being a Christian because they write articles that resonate with the bibles veiws but often times they miss the root of the problem. See feminism is like male misogyny the two are the exact opposites most feminist are really just misandrist calling themselves feminist. While some men on here are misogynistic we give them a pass we as a group ,not individuals, we tolerate there hate. It’s not the women or the men it’s hate an inordinate dislike sometimes manifested in race or geographical area or sex or peoples actions. So women and men are not the issue its hate, if the whole planet was white people would hate red heads with no blacks or Asians around and you can go on and on with these scenarios. So how do we cure hate not gender relations because there’s nothing wrong with that it’s the wicked veiw that women and men are eqaul opposite of what the bible says that women was created for man and not the other way around. This as a whole results from mans problem to accept Gods way and create our own way which creates more problems and flawed solutions which keep the cycle going.

  38. How many of you actually saw the movie? I did. It’s not a feminist movie just because it has a strong female lead in it. I’m no big fan of the over the top feminist movement these days, but you are all wrong about the movie.

    1. And last I looked Tina Turners character in the previous movie was a strong female. Its not like this is new ground for Mad Max

  39. I read the CNN article. Aside from the error classifying RoK as a Men’s Right’s Activist site, it’s not particularly inflammatory.

    1. Dude, these guys may even trash on your photo. Their site is about pro-mistreatment of women. They believe any detraction from their constant fluctuating belief is a feminist attempt to undermine them. Some of their members also hate Jews and Immigrants. Some of their members also have an issue with races.

      2. Uh oh! We have Crimethink going on here! To room 101!
        Right, comrade?

      3. RoK isn’t about the mistreatment of women. If anything, the key principals of this site benefit men and women alike. As far as the rest, sure there are members like that, but that’s the internet, and any site that allows free-thinking men a voice will have those types of people posting in comments and forums.

  40. The articles are similar because the journalists actively conspire with each other. Journolist and gamergate proved this.

    1. Says the piece of shit that aptly named himself. Go cry in the corner and write some poetry.

  42. Hollywood has taken a beating at the box office in the last few years. Last summer, in particular, was the worst in 8 years:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11064412/Hollywood-has-worst-summer-in-eight-years.html
    I see that ROK has exposed an open wound in the SJW flesh – the fact that their pet baby (the Hollywood propaganda machine) is suffering at the box office. The feminist “new world order” is not as bullet proof as we have been led to believe.
    How any times will directors be willing to lose millions on these films? Hollywood is subject to the vicissitudes of the market, and they might have to veer back to traditional themes (aka non-feminist) if they hope to capture the average man at the box office.
    Either way, it’s pretty simple – boycott, boycott, boycott! Also, expose their propaganda plan in as many media outlets as you can.
    They fear the truth.

    1. Eventually they will bring back those theme anti-feminist once they realize that people are tired of politically correct movies characters

      1. I really don’t mind if the “chick beating up twenty guys” trope appears in a movie every now and then.
        But it has become so overt, so pushed into the audience’s face in every action film. It’s clear now that it is not a periodic device – it’s heavy-handed propaganda. It’s like a child telling the same joke over and over.
        Eventually, you get sick of it.

        1. Aka I’m not man enough to just watch an action movie.
          Go watch the notebook.

      2. The sad part is that they make these fem movies simply because it’ll make money. People complain all the time but they still see the movie. It’s time for people to vote with their wallet and stop supporting these people who openly believe woman should run the world.

  43. As the NY Post article said, in a post-apocalyptic world, where sheer brute strength rules the day, women will lose, (if they try hold out on their own).

  44. I predict that this movie is not going to be that good, that feminists will flock to it and realize that the young women being rescued from Joe Immortan are “damsels in distress” and it will bother them. Especially because the damsels will be everything that feminists are not (young, pretty, in shape, etc.).
    And I also predict that in a year we will be talking about #MadMaxGate when we (eventually, because truth is a force of nature that “always finds a way”) find out that the movie critics all colluded to push this film because of the feminist message. It’s only a matter of time before some email secret circle gets blown wide open or someone in the circle has a spat and starts spilling the beans.
    Or was a spy all along. Could be any one of them.
    The creep at Vice already tried to tie in this fracas with #GamerGate and it makes me wonder if he had inadvertently or subconsciously confessed some kind of collusion.
    We shall see.

  45. Why do the SJW’s want to defend the pretty, blonde white South African girl whose family enjoyed white privilege in South Africa under apartheid? Why does she deserve to become the glamorous movie star while all those black girls have to live in shanty towns in South Africa’s rape culture?

    1. I’ll tell you why. They are racists! And they hate the poor downtrodden people of the world.
      It’s so sad I may be forced to use a frowny face emoji.

        1. “Because the lesbian gets the girl in the end”
          —————–
          Hey Roosh, here’s your comment of the week!

    3. “Why does she deserve to become the glamorous movie star while all those black girls have to live in shanty towns in South Africa’s rape culture?”
      ———————————-
      I don’t know but mention it to AVFM and they’ll be all over it.
      They have a division designed especially for that kind of thing (rich white feminists vs. poor black women as their maids and etc.)

  46. Wow. The backlash shows how pathetically empty these media outlets are and how desperate they are in need of story that troll sites like RoK looking for something to write about. Not enough news for too many so-called writers and journalists.
    Mad Media — Bereft of Relevance and Meaning
    Here’s the real news. Feminist themes never draw a female crowd — even a feminist crowd — because them bitches don’t spend money, unless it’s a man’s money. And once enough men see it and are utterly disappointed at how badly it sucks, word will spread not to see it regardless of the manosphere warnings against wasting time and money viewing it.
    We here in the manosphere just have enough sense to not waste our time and money on something that’s just going to suck. Would it suck less if it were inoculated of feminist themes? Probably not. So the real issue is we are evauluating a sucky movie. Feminism just makes it suckier than it would have been without. Yet feminism is the unassailable religion of fat tatooed bat-shit crazy fuglies, and must be defended ardently as Rome protects pedophile priests.

  47. Number of men who the post-Vietnam Medal of Honor: 18
    .
    Number of women in ALL of American History: 1, and it was during the War between the States.

  48. I got rid of cable TV years ago. Even then, shows like Home Improvement were a punch to the groin, portraying men as inept. Just yesterday, I was in a dive bar enjoying a remarkably good burger with ESPN on the TV. The commercial for brokerage services showed a decisive and aggressive woman (fair enough) with a meek, silent man following along in her wake – not cool. Other ads were just as denigrating. The working man sitting next to me remarked when I shook my head about it, and we found ourselves in agreement.

    1. I’ve also been disgusted by the total inanity you see.
      A while ago I was at a friend’s place and he had the TV on in the background while we were drinking and catching up. This cellphone ad came on. It had a really hot chick, about early 20s. She’s using a new feature on this cell phone which records your face while you record other things, so you can see your own reaction to the things you’re recording.
      Anyways, she records herself recording her cat (of course!) and posts the video on youtube, then her likes shoot up to over 1 million. I wish I could remember the name of the phone.
      Its as if they think we’re all young narcissistic female airheads.

    2. Who the heck are they advertising to? ESPN’s viewer demographics in the NYC area are:
      ESPN viewers in the New York DMA are:
      38.2% have 4+ years of college
      17.6% white collar, professional, managers
      Have a median household income of $87,250
      62.0% own their home
      Demographics:
      74.5% Male; 25.5% Female
      58.0% are between the ages of 18-49
      57.3% are between the ages of 25-54
      Nationally they skew even more male.

      1. Its a mystery. It was over noon hour central time, so that would be afternoon on the east coast when most men are working.

  49. That’s too funny… Roosh did you ever see the Hugh Grant movie “The Rewrite?” He does a whole rant about being sick of feminist propaganda in Hollywood movies. This is was the scene : http://youtu.be/E_FkwewvyFQ

    1. See. That’s not good. Women won’t like that. Which is why it’s great!

  50. Most of these individuals will never allow themselves to accept how unnatural and phony it is to have female heroes who are as strong as men

    Women in the real world can’t pass U.S. Army Ranger training, yet we keep seeing this nonsense about “warrior women” who can kick men’s asses.

    1. True. Over facebook I pointed to that:”they are showing a female leading the real leader, not just talking like politicians do, but also physically, beating men that are twice her size. And, simply, it’s not true, it’s not realistic. A woman’s rol is different, not a fearless warrior.”
      Some called that “a bunch of idiotic nonsense” and that wasn’t the truth, it was “just my sexism”.
      So my sexism is the truth anyone can verify trough history and this was the response:” This oughta be good….”
      “recent studies have shown that multitudes”(multitudes?I mean really?) “of Viking Warriors were actually women.”
      “‘The women of the Gauls are not only like men in their great
      stature, but they are a match for them in courage as well.’ Quote from
      Diodorus Siculus” (The man was greek, he was clearly mocking the gaul men, not praising the women.
      Add to that what you point, that women can’t pass militar(or fireman) training and the answer comes easily.
      But logic and truth means nothing to them…

      1. And to boot, this whole recent women viking bullshit is due to recent find where in a couple, if not one maybe two tombs, the female(s) were buried with a sword. I think Sargon did a video on it a few months back, basically, “they” embellished the shit out of this and presumed that vast cohorts of raving female viking warriors ravaged the land and, of course, they outperformed their male peers.
        The bullshit is just too high nowadays.

        1. I think there’s a single reference in Gibbon. After Byzantine forces defeated an army of Varangians, they found 2 or 3 females in armor amongst the dead.
          I also remember Gibbon mentioning that Saxon women were pretty nasty, they encouraged the men to constantly go to war.
          People take one or two instances of something out of the norm, and then blow it up to make it seem like it supports their political agenda.

        2. Yes, I heard him talking about that. The funny thing is they(feminists(men and women), women in general)hear of a single account of a female owning a sword or actually doing battle, like Boudica(with an army of hundreds or thousands of men of course) and they instantly presume what you say, that was “common” in that time, and that women are just as capable(translation:they are better)as men to do battle.

        3. It’s the exact same solipsism that is fuelling gay’s right to ‘equal’ marriage. The sheer nerve of them. They can put PUAs to shame with their ‘fake it til you make it’ confidence tricksterism. (they never actually make it of course, and remain fake empty vessels however, with an unquenchable yearning to be filled with something authentic)

        4. True. I’m not sure about what are the statistics about this people. You know, the media tries to sell the story that they are happy for ever, etc, but the other day I read they(especially lesbians) probably make violence against each other more than heterosexual people.
          But of course, women are not violent, that’s just us men…
          Like you say, solipsism.

      3. “The man was greek, he was clearly mocking the gaul men, not praising the women”
        —————–
        That’s my favorite theory about Sparta!
        Feminists love to talk about Spartan women being so strong and empowered.
        But most of what’s been written about ancient Sparta has been handed to us by the Athenians who were Sparta’s sworn enemies for centuries.
        I don’t believe any of the b.s. about young Spartans being starved and made to steal for food either.
        A population of thieves doesn’t make for a stable society but it DOES make for great propaganda.
        “Behold, my fellow Athenians. An entire land of THIEVES! And they starve their own children! And their women exercise naked (ancient porn novels anyone?) And they let their wives tell them what to do all the time!”

        1. I also don’t think they starved them , merely they gave them little to eat and encouraged stealing, not just by the sake of it, but to teach them to be cunning, stealthy, etc. It was all a part of the military training. And they created the best ancient soldiers.
          What you point about the Athenians is true. While Aristotle praised the spartans in certain matters, one of the things where he critiziced them was about the women. He said that Lycurgus(the spartan lawgiver) couldn’t “control” the women so he left them at their own devices. Plutarch says:”In the matter of education, which he regarded as the greatest and noblest task of the law-giver, he began at the very source, by carefully regulating marriages and births. For it is not true that, as Aristotle says, he tried to bring the women under proper restraint, but desisted, because he could not overcome the great licence and power which the women enjoyed on account of the many expeditions in which their husbands were engaged…But even to the women Lycurgus paid all possible attention. He made the maidens exercise their bodies in running, wrestling, casting the discus, and hurling the javelin, in order that the fruit of their wombs might have vigorous root in vigorous bodies and come to better maturity, and that they themselves might come with vigour to the fulness of their times, and struggle successfully and easily with the pangs of child-birth….Nor was there anything disgraceful in this scant clothing of the maidens, for modesty attended them, and wantonness was banished; nay, rather, it produced in them habits of simplicity and an ardent desire for health and beauty of body. It gave also to woman-kind a taste of lofty sentiment, for they felt that they too had a place in the arena of bravery and ambition.”
          Of course, the Athenians and other greeks disliked this freedom the women had, because to them, the women belonged in the house.

    2. Women can pull a trigger same as any man, advanced atheist is an oxymoron.

      1. Then they can take a bullet or shrapnel and be connected to machines for the rest of their miserable life in some disgusting va hospital smelling piss and shit until they die. That’s the reality of war, its no video game no movie. But, hey, the feminists ego wants on the front lines and that policy was made by women’s studies departments ignorant of what war really is. Go ahead fuck with me there a lot of veterans on this site. FYI – pulling a trigger? Actually thats not really true. Many can’t even pull the charging handle to chamber a round. Saw it with my own eyes. Go take your SSRIs.

        1. I don’t want my sisters dying in war. Men like the ones commenting here, absolutely.
          I wouldnt mind seeing these men die off in war.
          Too many men anyway with too much time on your hands, hating on the gender that gives you all life. Why should women want to gestate ungrateful men?

        2. Women don’t give life. They nurture & shield a fertilized (which requires a male seed) egg which is then brought to term. A woman is no more responsible for giving life as a glass containing water is responsible for creating the hydrogen & oxygen molecules that make up the water.
          A woman’s role in this is vital & important but get your points straight if you’re going to troll bravely here.

        3. It does take a seed, but it is we that give up our bodies for 9 months and a labor to make men like the ones commenting here. Women need to take heed here.

        4. So, the men hear to include myself fought in wars. We didn’t die. Too bad so sad. Nice admission though, what a lovely progressive compassionate person you seem to be. Look everyone another feminist calling for the death of men. You don’t want your sisters dying in war? Pfffff, don’t blame us it was you idiots that insisted they do.

        5. Men die in wars created by men. But yes with less wars and accidents, there is a strong influx of genetically dead ended males that should be purged. The testosterone infused angst against women has become too prevalent.

        6. Darkenss imprisoning me, all that I see
          Absolute horror
          I cannot live
          I cannot die
          Trapped in my self
          Body my holding cell.

        7. Ah, yes, the love of a good purge by the left. Never fails.
          You want men dead, literally killed, purged, because of a simple disagreement in ideology.
          How does it feel to be aligned with every mass murdering tyrant in history, cupcake?

        8. Why, as sacred life-giver, are you calling for the death of other life-giver’s children? Fucking psychopath. I’d bet the farm that you support late stage “reproductive rights”, yes? You progs are all the same, conformity is all you have.

        9. More evidence that feminism is a supremacist psychopathic homicidal ideology. Keep this up. Due tell, how many men should die? In ovens, with gas? Elaborate?

        10. What use are of these so called manly men that comment on ROK? I personally don’t want to see anyone killed but from what I’ve read on these forums, women are not safe.
          Married women, single women, rich and poor women are always in danger of having their lives lost at the hands of most of these bastardly and barbaric men.
          Plus why shouldn’t Alpha men champion war? It cuts down on your competition essentially.

        11. Thousands of years of wisdom past down from generation to generation, which spoke of the futility of war so that some day there might be a slight chance to eradicate it. And these stupid fucking feminists utterly disregard this because it was written by colonial white men. women have little place in the military and absolutely none on the battlefield…they have themselves to blame on this one.

        12. You manly men need utilize your time better doing more constructive things. Not hating women for losing the gender lottery.

        13. All I’m saying is that if women are armed and ready against the would be murderers and rapists (many that post here) sites like this are inherently futile, I’m not afraid of you all anymore.

        14. No one is questioning the importance of the woman’s role.You’re demonstrating selective reasoning. Many here are not woman haters. Sure, there is always the odd misanthrope here & there. We police ourselves the way men do.
          But you do realize this is a resource site for male improvement in many aspects, right?
          We don’t sugarcoat things here. It’s our space.Validation from you is not required. Neither is accommodation for you prepared. You’re free to browse & read & comment but if you find the nature of its denizens not to your liking, you’re also free to leave. This ain’t Hotel California.

        15. Evasion. You are firmly in the same camp as mass murdering tyrants, by your very words.
          The company you keep is with the most evil people in history. You will do more spinning, but behind your keyboard, you know it’s true. In the silence of the night, think about it and let it sink in. You are the same kind of person as homicidal dictators. You. Right there. Let it soak in a good, long while.

        16. She is not smart enough to realize it, but she is doing her side no favors. Props to her though for ripping off the mask and revealing the evil that lay underneath.

        17. Nothing wrong with that. Indeed, arm yourself, mace, gun whatever. If rape were to end tomorrow, and that would be a great thing, this site would still be here. Its not about rape its about female supremacy and it simply won’t fly anymore.
          No, that’s not true. You see, I don’t fear you and that scares you. If it didn’t you wouldn’t post here.

        18. Yep, sometimes I like helping out with the ripping. Best way to destroy progressivism is to have them try to live up to their own lofty standards.

        20. “Men die in wars created by men. But yes with less wars and accidents, there is a strong influx of genetically dead ended males that should be purged. The testosterone infused angst against women has become too prevalent.” Your quote should be bookmarked by every man here just to remind us what you and yours are all about. Do as I say or die. You are probably too dumb to realize that you have revealed the inherent Stalinism embedded in the minds and hearts of today’s lefties. If you even know who Stalin was.

        21. “strong influx of genetically dead ended males that should be purged”
          ———————-
          Not as genetically dead ended as a bunch of bitter harpies dying alone with their cats.
          “The testosterone infused angst against women has become too prevalent.”
          ——————-
          No, it hasn’t been prevalent enough.
          That’s the only reason your ilk are able to thrive.
          Civilization’s technology keeps alive too many weakling, idiotic, low T, mutant males (most manginas and white knights) that would otherwise never survive to puberty.
          They form strength in numbers coalitions to oust the fewer, better men (that’s us).
          But a world run by runts rapidly becomes a world run by females (emboldened by the weakness of the runts they see everywhere the females are triggered into dominance attempts).
          Then the mutant females (lesbians and masculine types) that would otherwise be ostracized or killed are able to thrive and make trouble for the normal (wild type) men and women.

        22. “women are always in danger of having their lives lost at the hands of most of these bastardly and barbaric men.”
          ————
          Bastardly, eh?
          Then I reckon your sisters appreciate all your personal contributions to their dilemma.

      2. Which proves my point. Without firearms, women wouldn’t stand a chance in confrontations with male human predators.

        1. True, which is why women should arm themselves to the teeth against the very same men commenting here.

        3. “Without firearms, women wouldn’t stand a chance in confrontations with male human predators.”
          ——————
          Some might argue they don’t stand a chance even with ’em.

      3. So can a child and a wrinkly old geezer, that doesn’t make them suitable soldiers, dumbass.

        1. Ad hominem attacks aside, some simple research should enlighten you as to the positive impact some female soldiers have had for their given countries.

    4. We need more people to make movies that showcase the true strengths and weaknesses of men and women in an action setting. No way in hell can a woman her size beat ALL those men, 1 or 2 maybe but ALL no…
      I remember hearing someone say they should change James Bond to a woman too…needless to say my hope in humanity is pretty much dead.

      1. Most men can’t pass Ranger training, either. But then an out of shape guy can overpower most women. In fact this propaganda nonsense about rape culture presupposes that.

  51. This is what I’ve been saying and believing for a long time.
    The absolute best way to hit back is to hit back at their wallets by boycotting their degeneracy.
    The Leftist Big Entertainment Complex exists only because people give them money.
    The Complex is lashing out in fury because they realized that we have a weapon which can utterly destroy them, and there’s absolutely nothing they can do about it. Once enough people stop giving them money, the edifice crumbles.
    BOYCOTT THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY!!!!
    Cancel cable, sell your TV, and sell your video game machine. Be a part of the solution, don’t be a part of the problem by sending your hard-earning money to people who hate you.
    Why in the hell would you voluntarily give cash to assholes who think that you are scum????? It’s completely irrational!!!!

  52. The same fine tooth journalistic attention to detail from the mainstream media as per the UVA non rape story. They couldn’t even be bothered to authenticate the fundamental fact that this isn’t a Men’s Right’s activist site. No surprise.
    More traffic for us, hehe.

  53. “You’d think a film about blokes hooning around in the desert blowing
    each other up would be right up their alley, but such are the sensitive
    feelings of the Men’s Rights losers that they’re up in arms over various
    parts of the film they reckon are “feminist propaganda”.
    http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/by/Eleanor-Robertson
    I suggest you don’t click on the link, and add to her click tally.
    This was posted on the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday. And, like you, I should be shocked that she should label Men’s Rights activists as losers.
    ROK is not a MRA site, but she doesn’t care. To her, those who would fight for the rights of men to equal medical care, access to their kids, justice under the law, and at least having a political voice…. are all losers.
    Nobody should doubt how much the average feminist hates men, and despises the notion of equality for men. We are all slaves. Just disposable units of economic utility to be discarded.. then ridiculed when we complain.
    There is no holy ground for men any more. No clubs, no movies, no sports, no associations… nothing that cannot be invaded by women. No words we can speak that cannot be twisted into misogyny, and no actions that cannot be interpreted as demeaning to women.
    Its a fucking sick world we live in.

    2. Well, well, well. The tables have turned and look who’s all emotional now.

  54. The NY Post article says “In other words, the writer of the post hasn’t even seen the film yet”, and they happen to be right. It is so sad that an article that has reached this notoriety, that says things people should heard, can be dismissed so easly and truthfully with “author of the article did not see the movie”.

    1. If the trailers give it all up front, and most all movie trailers give you the vast majority of the movie nowadays, and if time Magazine itself says it is highly feminist, then what is the point.
      I’ve never stuck my dick in hydrochloric acid, but I feel quite qualified to advise others against the practice.

      1. Problem is, we live in a society that thinks that sticking their dicks in hydrochloric acid is a sane, healthy practice. So if you are going to wage a war against that idea, maybe you should indeed try stucking your dick in hydrochloric acid so you can tell people: “This is a bad idea, I tested it myself, I know what am I speaking about”.

        1. Or…I can explain how acids and bases work based on known science. Maiming myself to cure the stupidity of others is,well, stupid.
          You can watch a trailer these days and tell every single nuance about a movie. I have no idea why they do that actually, the original purpose for them was to work as a teaser. Now it’s all “hey, here is the entire plot and three quarters of the good lines, come watch!”

  55. I watched the trailer for CBS’s new Supergirl series, and I thought: No, this won’t do. If I had a say in it, I would make the Kryptonians a kind of Neoreationary society where Kara Zor-El shows that she had to use her superpowers reluctantly, sparingly, and only as a last resort when her cousin or the other male superheroes in the D.C. universe couldn’t stop the Big Bad on their own.
    Why? Because Kara understands the organic, hierarchical and patriarchal nature of a healthy society, and she doesn’t want to set a bad example for Earth women by giving them the idea that they can aspire to rise above their natural stations by becoming “super” themselves.
    Ironically the trailer doesn’t understand its own assumptions when it shows that Kara has put the El family’s coat of arms on her costume. The coat of arms hearkens back to the premodern way of the life that those intellectual vandals in the Enlightenment mocked and destroyed.

    1. I’d like to take a moment to say that I’ve seen your postings on several websites and you do seem to have advanced intelligence. Minus the red pill brainwashing, you’d certainly be an asset to many people by posting your insights. Such a waste.

      1. So basically, if somebody does not kowtow to your dogma, they must be brainwashed, eh?
        Must be nice to have an infallible doctrine, to be able to make that kind of claim against others. Very Soviet actually, now that I consider it.

  56. dunno what to say if rok finally made it or that its just wealthy hollywood media elites freaking out that they wont be getting paid.
    Wonder how would they react when people stopping going to the movies. No more beta hollywood/bollywood.
    Then suddenly theyd change for our money n time not the other way around where we mindlessly go just to have them subtly promote an agenda through entertainment.
    But when comes to critism or cahs lost ya theyll jump on it…keep up the good work. Ive pretty much stopped watching movies since 2008 cuz its just so bs.
    Broke my rule cuz family wanted to see Dracula Untold and that movie sucked…was not like the real Vlad the Impaler, they just showed the typical goody goody two shoe loving virtus beta family man trying to fight the scary evil ottoman muslims….ID perfer the cold blooded sadistic Vlad fighting them.

    1. I know, right? Women have jumped the shark. Male birth control, artificial wombs and sex bots can’t come fast enough. I hate it that I have to go through a woman to have a child. That’s like going through Hitler to spare a Jew’s life. It’s a tragedy. It’s a God awful, crying shame.

  57. I bet the campaign is stirred by the movie producers, most people who were not going to see it will go now out of curiosity.

    1. Doesn’t matter if the movie gets more sales. What matters is countering and crushing the feminist echo chamber world wide.

  58. No way. A whole web site based on the back of a comic book. Charles Atlas and penis enhancers. Freud would absolutely drop dead if he saw this. It’s the absolute “Holy Grail” of evidence for his life’s work. And like the cowards you are you will delete this post in tic tic tic

        2. Oh wow, how original. And like totally scathing. I’m wounded sir, nay, I am gored unto the very brink of the abyss.
          Get some new material cupcake, your snark, shaming and guilt tripping don’t work here, and we relish your ad hominem and tears as tasty morsels of confirmation that we are on the correct path.
          And I repeat:
          *yawn*

        5. You’re not even trying. It’s kind of funny, this is all you have. You cannot actually debate anything, you came here armed with nothing but a sneer. Sadly all you get in return is a smirk and a middle finger thrown at you. Heh. Talk about impotence, wot?

        7. I’m so disappointed. Here I thought I was actually seeing the work of the real Jeffery Albertson.

        10. Yeah, fuck off. You can’t even argue your points. And with every insult and stupid comment that you think is clever you just make us stronger because it proves we’re right.

        11. Fuck you, fellow asshole. You’re a piece of shit. Which I am sure you know.

        12. Like you morons do? Jeez. Wimpy, bitchy, men. You make the rest of us look so fucking stupid.

        15. Right on cue, validating everything here. Dummy. You dummies are exactly the subject of this discussion here today, and here you come, screaming “Here I am”! Dummy. It’s too fucking easy.

        16. Unfortunately for you, even if they are easy, you still have to pay them.

        17. Oh you got me there. Buttgunner.
          Hey, hey! Oh no you didn’t. Yep, I see it. homophobia. That’s hate speech shithead. Hey, sjw alert – we have hate speech here.

        19. Most likely. Like I posted earlier: Sockpuppets are in abundance here. Never ends. They wouldn’t be so persistent if they thought we were wrong. It’s too easy.

        20. I have to admit. Even though its pointless, I do enjoy fighting with them. These sjw’s are such pathetic runts its good to finally confront a few and just say fuck you…you waste of skin.

        21. Much like you clinging to the hope that your skin could someday truly be a penis.

        22. My goodness. The fact that you actually think you’re being clever and funny makes you all the more pathetic. Fucking loser.

        23. That is the highest compliment “you people” could make to me.
          You’re very, very welcome bunny gunny!

    2. You mean like the leftie cowards who took my comments down on their sites? Nah we’ll let it stay up for laughs.

        2. So you admit this is not your website. Great. Thanks for your input. Bye now.

    3. Nice try but doesn’t match the classic heart warming snark of ‘Mum’s basement dwelling game console playing porn masturbating big bellied four eyed jobless 30 year old virgin’. Needs a dash of panache. Try again.

  59. I’ve been barred from one feminist site for this comment:
    ‘Just curious about targeting this article. There are numerous articles on Return of Kings about philosophy, history, and politics yet you only pick up on articles about pop culture. Is this due to laziness on the writers part or do you not think your audience is intelligent enough to debate these issues?’
    Needless to say the shit hit the fan and after a tidal wave of abuse the comment was deleted.

    1. Yeah, they should look up the ROK posts which discuss the ideas of Greek philosophers, Roman poets and Renaissance humanists. Only that might go over the heads of SJW’s, given how classical education has fallen into desuetude.

      1. Oh they had a come back for that one. Apparently there are very important academic programs built around films. Whereas philosophers, poets and humanists have had a minimal impact on civilisation. Possibly due to the lack to the lack of anime and skinny jeans in philosophy.

    2. Yup. Many a time the naked Emperor does not take kindly to being told he is naked.

    3. You’re obviously a deranged misogynist, unaware of the pope’s advice, in need of re-education, without a punishing wife and free of misandric rule! Death to you, infidel!

  61. What about the hundreds of thousands of butt-hurt feminists making death-threats to Joss Whedon on Twitter about Avengers Age of Ultron, to the point where he shut down his account.
    I wonder why the media doesn’t shame them with the same impunity which it does men?

  62. After growing up on the first two Mad Max movies.(the third one was shit)Fury road was one of the only Hollywood movies I was willing to pay to see. Knowing that this movie is another action movie hijacked by a female friendly/female empowerement bullshit angle that has plagued every action movie in the last ten years, I will sit this one out and see it online without giving them a dime. Let the liberal media report on ROK and spread the word that enlightened men arent havin it.

  63. When I first read Clarey’s article I was like “yeah right, this guy is grasping for straws” Then I saw the movie. Aaron Clarey wasnt far off.

    1. Did you pay for the movie? Kinda defeats the point of boycotting it…theyy still get money.

      1. He wasn’t for boycotting the movie before he saw it. Learn proper reading comprehension.

        2. I know what he meant and I meant that there isn’t any use in boycotting if everyone will have his “I have to see it for myself” mentality.

      2. At what point did I agree to boycott it? An experience man made the movie and dozens of other men did some sweet stunts and made some sweet props and its getting sweet reviews because of it. Millers wife supposedly cut the movie and I’ll admit she did a pretty good job.
        But me? Boycotting it? I’ll do what I want. You’re welcome to follow me and observe more of what I post.

    2. I’ve been wondering this as well since I haven’t actually seen the movie. Thanks for clarifying.

  64. Hahaha nothing like a bunch of so called men, being afraid of women. Very masculine of you.

    1. You could have saved your boilerplate if you’d scrolled down. Y’all are not very original, so the point has been broached, and ridiculed, already.

        2. Until one tells you to jump. Be we won’t call that fear, we’ll instead call it enlightenment, eh mate?
          You equate a dislike of feminism with “fearing women”. That is a logical fallacy. I adore women, I simply loathe the ideology of feminism. To make them the same in order to throw out ad hominem is quite Marxist, actually.

        4. The only fallacy is your argument. There’s no way around it, you fear women. You’ll be less of a man if a women tells you to “jump” as you say.
          Sometimes in life you’ll just have to accept that there are women smarter than you and they will sign your paychecks.
          But then again maybe you won’t. I mean you won’t even see a movie without those tear ducts drying out.

        6. Oh I am. “How not to be a man 101”
          “How we are afraid of women 310”
          Good lessons.

        7. Sorry we couldn’t see eye to eye or help you. By this post I assume you will be making an exit now. Thanks for your input. Further posting here defines you as a troll. I believe you will be back later however, not as a troll, but for help and advice.

        8. Not as a troll but as a man. I mean you really didn’t have to comment, especially if you don’t have a backbone to stick up for your so called beliefs.

        10. “I mean you really didn’t have to comment, especially if you don’t have a backbone to stick up for your so called beliefs.”
          Pressing one for English:

        12. Since we don’t have to worry about you breeding, please don’t clone yourself.

        13. Why are you here? You are validating my original post, which happens to be the top post here so far. What do you want?

        14. Why are you here? You are validating my original post, which happens to be the top post here so far. What do you want??

        15. You have not demonstrated the fallacy you accuse me of. Or are you of the mind that disagreement with your words is a fallacy?
          Show me child, show me where I fear women?
          I think Margaret Thatcher was a great woman and worthy of her hard earned achievements in life. Boudicca was a fantastic woman and brave. Joan d’Arc was inspiring and brilliant. Show me where I hate women, sir.
          Margaret Tubman’s work was pivotal in the abolitionist movement and I admire her courage. Show me where I hate women, sir.
          Grace Kelly was the epitome of beauty, refinement and class.
          Ayn Rand was a brilliant and highly intelligent woman whom I greatly admire. Naomi Wolf is brilliant and talented, as is Wendy McElroy. I admire all of their works and achievement.
          Show me where I fear women, child.
          You can’t instead you expected groveling before your shaming techniques. First lesson, son, that doesn’t work here. If that is all you came in with, you will need to get used to having your arse handed to you.

        16. Man you’re really dishing out the justice today! May I refer to you as Sir Punisher?

        17. They want to drive the growing dissent against their man hating agenda back underground.
          When your enemy starts to come out in swarms to silence you, you are on the correct path.

        19. You have come to the right place for eugenics. This site is improving future breeding. Are your posts supposed to be the “control” of the experiment? The dummy half?

        21. Dude, we’ve got a serious emergency here, some of your “unafraid of women” buddies did these:

        22. Took you a while with that little Google search engine. Yet if these women were here right now and told you “jump” as you say, you would cry foul because you’re a man. Having an admiration is different than fear. It would be wise to know the difference.
          By the way child, I never used the word hate.
          A real man doesn’t need to admire. A real man respects and sees women as equals. A real man sees that some women are smarter than men. Real men aren’t afraid of a movie.

        24. By the way, I love that you chose a screen name for a character that was constantly immaculated by his wife.

        26. If that is your position and stance, then no reason to comment at all. Just observe. Dummy.

        27. He didn’t do a thing, she kicked him out, she brought him back. She took a piece of the pie and he ended on his knees.

        28. Nope. She was an asshole. He called her out on it. She kicked him out, he moved back in and said “this is my house, this is my life” Dummy. What the motherfuck is wrong with you Robbie? Why are you here? What do you want out of life? To be a reed blown by the wind? Is that your goal? What the fucking fuck. I feel bad for you.

        29. Not all women are like Skyler. Even I didn’t like her for a good portion of the series.

        30. I actually despise her. The actress couldn’t act. For the most part everyone but Bryan Cranston.

        31. You poor soul. One day you’ll wake up, and start understanding meanings. It’s ok. I have faith you’ll understand.

        32. HE did what he wanted to do, not for his family, but for himself. “I did it for myself, I liked it, I was good at it”. I have faith you will creatively and constructively post here, or get lost.

        33. post something creative? I thought this was a site for men? You want to be creative you better get in the kitchen.
          Btw no matter how you look at it, Skylar will always be more of a man than Heisenberg. She had more masculinity than him at every turn.

        37. The movie is propaganda pure and simple. This ain’t the Golden Age of Hollywood or anything else for that matter. Another thing. Enough of the equality BS. All equality means is that we are all dumbed down to the same pathetic amorphous mass of insignificance. Very Marxist and no thank you to it. Men and women should never be looked at as equals. It is an insult to both genders. We are different and meant to be complimentary, and certainly not equal.

        38. Learn what propaganda is first of all. Then talk. The insecurity and inferiority oozes from you.

        39. Wash the dishes and let MEN speak. You are worth a lick from any of the manifesto this site listed. Nice try feminist.

        41. Do you even know who Marx is or are you copy and pasting what other say?
          It’s ok, that Internet will help you spew rhetoric you don’t understand.

        43. And you’ve been docked 25 demerits for lack of manhood.
          Another 25 for not knowing what your talking about.
          Another 25 for your copy and paste.
          Little FYI, next time you use Marx remember he believed in economical equality. I.E. Socialism. This is where you should learn, but you’ll end up playing the fool once more.

        44. Probably because you are trying to become one. Was it because they intimidate you or because you could not get one?

        45. They created the term “homophobe” along the same lines of controlling the narrative. See through one fallacy, see through them all.
          Someday when it’s us listening in on their conversations to route them out and round them up it will be very easy.

        46. OMG are you this fucking stupid? No wait. Don’t answer. you already have.
          Are there any women reading your posts who might let you fuck them for it? Or will you cum to fast from a lifetime of sneaking jerks during commercials during My Little Pony?

        48. “And yet here I sit. Unafraid of women.”
          —————-
          Keep on telling yourself that.

        49. “Real men aren’t afraid of a movie.”
          —————
          Dare you to tell that to black men disparaging “Birth of A Nation”.

        50. “Learn what propaganda is first of all.”
          ——————-
          You’re the expert.

        51. “immaculated”
          —————–
          Are you trying to say emasculated?

        52. Someone got some strength this morning after watching some pornhub, huh?
          While you prefer women on the Internet, I prefer women in real life.
          Go out in the real world, tell the next women how afraid you are of a movie. You’ll be back here in a matter of minutes with that pathetic excuse of a life you live.

        54. I have. My co-worker and my non white ass laughed our asses off at your insecurities. Look up your code now and cry.

        57. Who needs google for those names, man? Seriously? You needed to look them up? They are basic history, everybody should know them, they were on the top of my head. You need google to know that shit? Damn…
          Just occurred to me….you’re a millenial aren’t you?
          Fear and hate, the point is the same. I do cop to making a mistake on the word however.
          As to “real man”, go stick your head in a pig. Who made you the arbitrator on what constitutes a man? You claim “equal” in one sentence then claim women as superior in another (with not a shred of actual evidence, mind you). Real man, indeed, your limp, snarky, bearded, noodle armed self would run and hide in the presence of an actual man.

        58. The “do you even know who Marx is” thing means that he’s a Marxist. Lock, stock and barrel.

        60. Considering Socialism is economical, and has NOTHING to do with gender you putz you should really look into it.

        61. Who said superior? You keep putting words in my mouth, that is clearly your inferiority coming out. Equal yes.
          Very tough words coming from someone who lives in their moms basement fearing women. BTW if you don’t know the difference between fear and hate, then you have no argument.
          You clearly needed Google for this names. As stated before if they were around now and told you to jump, you’d cry foul. Now be a Man, and just shut the fuck up and deal with life.

        63. On another note. Stop using terms such as “snark” and “millennial”
          It’s does your argument no justice, as it makes you come off very feminine.
          Now what do you think a man is? For me, and most men I know a Man is someone who provides, but does not get upset over a women making money.
          A man isnt afraid, wait no that’s not the word, a man screw it, it is the appropriate word A man isn’t afraid of the feminist movement. Why should we be? There is no logical reason to be. You don’t have to support it sure. But living your life, working hard and being there for your loved ones should be enough. Why does it bother you?
          Sure the judicial system is fucked, but that’s not because of the feminist movement. It’s because we had very poor leaders who put in place very bad laws.
          I have an NRA show to go to, I’ll wait for your response.

      2. Fuck all with threads like this I have enough material to library up a “leftist bot” to use on the internet, but I can take it up a level to troll the leftists back. These people have no fucking brains.

      1. Considering my comments are for the other comments and the basis of this page, and did not mention Claery. You may be confused. Possibly asking a female for help might do wonders for you.

        2. Wake up, go to work, do your job, if a women is in power, deal with it like a man. Go home, help your wife if she needs it( it’s not an order it’s called help) go to sleep, repeat.

        3. Since you’ve just admitted to being a women maybe you should get off the site.

        4. Because “you people” are the only ones allowed to “get off” on this site.

        6. better yet, you should get of this site, ask mommy if it’s ok to get a job and be a man.
          She probably wouldn’t let you see the movie regardless. I’m sure you already have a bit torrent of it.

        7. Ok I know you get angry, type too fast, and come down with “Stress Induced Dyslexia.” Just use spell check. I’m going to bed as I actually have to go to work tomorrow. I’m assuming you don’t and haven’t for while, as you have enough free time to spend on a site which you disagree with. Goodnight pleasant dreams.

        8. I’m sure you can stay up late to mow moms lawn. I wouldn’t call that work.

    3. What is that, Insult number 63 from the Cultural Marxist manual of debate?

      1. I already had to educate a fool on Marx. Learn the difference between Economic class and gender.

        1. The word “cultural” isn’t in your dictionary is it?

      1. HAHAHAHA YOU CAME UP WITH A BUNCH OF CODES HOLY SHIT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING? YOU FUCKING PUSSY. BIGGEST FUCKING FAKE MAN RIGHT HERE. NEEDS CODES TO TALK BACK TO OTHER MEN, BECAUSE HE CANT HANDLE DEBATE.

  65. I found RoK through a kind of similar outrage a year ago and I must say it was definitely one of the best things that have ever happened to me. The unsubstantial blabber of the female mainstream typist might be annoying, but it helps drawing the attention of like minded people. Haters gonna hate anyway.

    1. I hope they don’t silence you. I hope everyone sees what kind of people you are and your names exposed to the public.

      2. Ah, behold the Leftist. Never at a loss for wanting people harmed in real life, over simply having a difference of opinion. How Nobel, how enlightened, how humanitarian.
        Scratch the surface of a leftist and you hit feral, violent beast immediately.

        1. Just exposed, not harmed by me, and if others are crazy not my problem crazy tits.

        2. The posters commenting here often want women harmed in real life. Your hypocrisy should embarrass you.

        4. I’m not here to prove what you already know. Fiction is often based on reality.

        5. I don’t recall seeing any calls for violence towards women.
          Answer the question please.

        6. Some troll, probably one of these fruitcakes, was doing so the other day. We told him to grow up and get out.
          Naturally these little snowflakes only see what they want of course. As I say, the troll was likely one of them.

        7. Ah, so you also cotton to the idea of collectivist guilt, huh sweety? Lots of socialists in the feminist movement, ergo you are a Nazi. Right?

        8. That is how you would treat the mentally ill?!
          We, as a society, seriously need to have a discussion about this and intolerant people like yourself.

      3. Wouldn’t “thinking for yourself” allow people to have differing opinions rather than following a crowd?
        How would you deal with people who don’t really care about being shamed?
        Why do you feel threatened, so much so that you wish to inflict harm on others?
        Some introspection is in order.

        2. Your connotation of introspection would be everybody else’s narcissism.

        3. If you wrote that sentence backwards it would make more sense. You are a very poor troll.

        4. And extremely happy I don’t have the absolute soul sickness you exhibit on this site.

        6. Now that’s what people want to see, positive reinforcement with in a circle jerk.

        7. Irrelevant. His points were valid. If you don’t like it, troll, who cares?
          You’ve descended quickly into name calling and snark. I had some level of hope for you, but alas, well, there you go.

    2. We spanked ’em in Tattoo Gate. We’ll spank again in Feminazi’s Strike Back

  67. I was a regular at a site ‘freindly Atheist’ (it’s not that friendly) and a person there looked through my comment history and noticed I was a “regular at Rok.” I’m sure you know where this is going, just the usual “you’re sexist, you’re a misogynist” nonsense. It was weird because the slightest double standard I pointed out (that wasn’t in Feminism’s favor) was recived by backlash of me being a misogynist. I noticed a trend that the ones who claim they’re all about “reason” don’t act like that when it doesn’t fit their agenda. If I’m a misogynist for not swallowing the blue pill and joining a movement based on double standards, lies and hypocrisy then I’m a proud “misogynist.”

    1. Yeah, Hemant doesn’t like my posts about the dishonesty of claiming that atheists enjoy sexual fulfillment, when that doesn’t work for many christian guys who become atheists. Look at all the overweight neckbeards who show up at atheist gatherings and tell me that women want to bang them.
      The blog entry by Brittany Machado back in February about her sexual liberation from purity rings and abstinence pledges especially pissed me off.
      I especially enjoy it when they think I’m Elevator Guy. No, but I can understand his humiliation, and I can understand why he has kept a low profile after crossing paths with that vile SkepChick.

      1. For the last time.
        There is no elevator guy!
        She made it all up.
        You don’t think he’d have been outed by now if he was real?

    2. Yeah, I’m an atheist and don’t even talk about it because of this.
      It bums me out, but most vocal atheists are a bunch of SJW fedora faggots and whores.

    3. “I noticed a trend that the ones who claim they’re all about “reason” don’t act like that when it doesn’t fit their agenda.”
      ——————–
      I call them ‘waste-up’ skeptics.
      They’re only skeptics so long as they perceive that skepticism isn’t getting in the way of their dicks.
      Putz Myers is a prime example.

  68. Ha ha, Return of Kings gets international mainstream media exposure. This is the darkest day for internet feminism since that frathouse gang-rape was exposed as total fiction.

  69. Sad to see men actually support a movie that openly and proudly says “fuck you” to men. Hollywood is the land of simps.

  70. Leftists exists not because they believe in what they say, not because they want to make the world better, not because they are fighting injustice, not because they have hearts full of gold, not because they want equality, fairness, and total economic prosperity. No, leftists exists because deep down they all are sociopathic and want to be in charge and control everything about you. Classic narcissist who believe they know what is right for you. Unfortunately for them, they will never…EVER, taste this power. They will be discarded like wet toilet paper the minute they are no longer needed. What a fun day that will be to see the looks on their faces.

    1. I am totally equal opportunity. I have just as much contempt for the liberal elite as I do the gene pool throw backs such as yourselves.

      1. “Throw backs” to what? Logic and reason? Dude, its a Mad max movie and they femme it out like crazy. I’ve seen 2 trailers already and its nothing but GRRRRLL power. It’s nauseating and if you can’t handle the fact that turns some guys off I don’t know what to tell you. Imagine doing something like this with Bladerunner? In the 90’s they turned James bond into some one woman pc barfbag and it nearly destroyed the franchise. Take off the white knight armor and get a clue.

        2. Yawn , how trite. Any who, good luck paying that alimony. And let us not forget what Mad Max was about. He was a stand up cop and family man who turned into a warrior badass after his family was killed.

        7. Umm…what? Bro, you aren’t trying to sound like some stud are you? I hope not. You’re a mangina, you are Kryptonite to a woman. The best thing you will ever be to a woman is a safe ATM machine.

        8. He probably kisses his wife’s cheek while she’s sucking someone else’s cock.

        9. So tired, old and unoriginal. Get used to the fact that most of us have no fear of the worst of your name calling and accusations. You and yours have used them so much to the point of absurdity that these epithets are now rendered meaningless.

        10. “It’s nauseating and if you can’t handle the fact that turns some guys off I don’t know what to tell you.”
          —————-
          It’s not the movie per se, it’s the trend of fems taking over everything.
          The film is just symbolic.

  71. And yet, none of the attackers read my post, which explained several scenes which validated the argument that Mad Max: Fury Road is feminist propaganda. There’s actually another scene which I didn’t include. The breeding women are with the militants in the desert and one woman complains about how ugly her baby will be due to the man who impregnated her. The wise old woman chimes in “but it could be a girl.” The line in this context implies by virtue of simply being female it cannot be ugly or be evil.

    1. The wise old woman

      Scarcely more realistic than a “warrior woman.” I got to know both of my grandmothers into my adulthood, and they never struck me as “wise old women.” For example, it never occurred to me that I could go to one of them to discuss a personal problem because I could tell even as a child that they didn’t have much going for them.

    2. Haha you don’t need to explain anything, it’s pretty obvious. Everyone is pretty much claming this to be a “win” for femnazis because they “successfully took over an originally male lead product”.
      It wont stop here. Just wait until females enter the NBA or become QBs in the NFL, it may sound ridiculous now but so did WW1.

      1. The WNBA is a shining example of sports ‘equality.’ The NBA has to pay for the WNBA to exist because otherwise it would not. Corporate subsidizing that only pales in comparison to Fed Gov subsidizing an ‘equal’ playing field. Nature has made strengths, weaknesses, and differences for a reason, but that’s not good enough. Have them bet their life savings on a professional basketball game between an NBA team and a WNBA team and we’ll see who believes in true equality.

    3. The wise old woman chimes in “but it could be a girl.”
      ——————-
      Thank God for Aaron Clarey!

    1. But the women chose life, isn’t that enough? Not all men are ungrateful.

      1. No, it is not enough, a by-product of biology isn’t an accomplishment in a modern society.

        1. Then why the single mom hate? ROK is notoriously anti-choice. A woman that chooses life can’t win for losing to folks like you.

        2. There are reasons single moms are single,and usually those are negative reasons, and that’s why they get the hate.

        3. When your wife cuckolds you and you’re sitting in the corner watching, do you stuff her panties in your mouth or do you wear them on your head?

        4. I don’t hate single mothers, but I would never date them, and I feel if THEY choose to raise a child alone they should be solely responsible financially, since THEY were the ones who decided to spread their legs and have a child with a deadbeat.

        8. Are you kidding me? I LOVE sluts, I tell guys all the time why spend a penny on a girlfriend or wife when all these sluts are giving it away for FREE!!

        13. You dumb asshole. We will fuck single mothers, sluts, and branded broads six ways to Sunday. But that is as far as it will go. Dummy.

        14. You brought up the topic of single mothers, I’m not talking shit about them at all, I’m just saying I would never date them, they’re not going to trap me when they decided to keep the next one like they did the last poor sucker. I’m also not interested in cleaning up another man’s mess and paying for someone else’s child.

        16. That’s all that needs to be said. I don’t understand the seething hatred of said women.

        23. From whoever your referred to when you said “then why the single mom hate”

        24. But why hate someone that has no absolute bearing on your life whatsoever? That’s called projection.

        26. OMG, wait! We don’t believe you should be able to kill your own babies! WTF?!?

    2. They’re worried they’ll be sabotaged by the mob and look bad if they stand up for themselves, so they just “go with the flow”, “obey” and beg the land whales and wookies in their town for no sex day dates where they can listen to the whole feminazi lecture.
      Men are the problem, and I’m glad I see guys on this site who are shaming both the feminists and more importantly the enablers.

      2. They think it’ll somehow get them laid too, not realizing as much as chicks demand to be treated like queens, they want to be treated like whores, thus the recent success of 50 shades of grey

        2. Not to mention how there are whores from instagram whom get shitted on by Arabs in Dubai for cold hard cash.
          Male feminists truly are a deluded and pitiful bunch.

  74. Last night I went out to see Fury Road and enjoyed it immensely and most of that is because I had loved the Road Warrior as a kid and have an Australian Cattle Dog named Gibson. And the film is a 2 hour version of the last 20 minutes of the Road Warrior.
    This morning however I went online and noticed all the crap baggage that has now been attached to this movie. For Pete’s sake can’t we just have one movie without all the feminist baggage attached? At least I was able to enjoy it before all this came into my sphere.
    But here is the best part you can all take away from this movie. The Feminist and SJW’s got it all wrong and the true subtext of the movie completely went over their heads.
    OK Stop reading now if you don’t want anything spoiled but I will explain how idiotic this whole debate is.
    First this movie does not empower women or back the feminist agenda at all. It actually mocks them all while making them feel empowered. Max is captured and thrown into the world of Imperator Joe and his army of sterilized men. Much like Lions Joe is the only one allowed to breed with the females and pass his seed on. Women in his world have only one purpose. Breeding for survival of the species. Joe’s goal is to pass his seed on and breed healthy non sterilized men.
    Furiosa (Charlize Theron) steals his Pride and runs away with them in what she thinks is to give them a better life. She is chased and Max is dragged along as he is both healthy and a universal blood donor. Joe’s army needs blood like dialysis to help fight the radiation sickness. During the chase Max is able to escape and only seeks to be free to roam the wasteland. He realizes that he is unable to do this alone and teams up with Furiosa and discovers her cargo and plan. He goes along with this only because it serves his interests.
    The film breaks down into three classes. Wolves, Sheep and the Shepherd. It’s kind of obvious who is who. They escape to what Furiosa thinks will be a sanctuary (The black sheep leading the white sheep). A group of women who have fertile land. But when they get there there is no fertile land and it is just a bunch of old women left in the desert and dust with nothing but seeds for a better life that are useless without water. Kind of an obvious metaphor for women who think they can make it on their own without men. They try and bait Max with sex and he see’s it for the ploy that it is.
    When they discover that there is no fertile land because the women let it languish and die and could not come up with a better way to provide water on their own Furiosa decides to continue on her path East to what she feels will be hope just around the next hill. She is leading them further into ruin and eventual death. Max (the shepherd) tells her her plan is useless and will lead to nothing but death. Essentially saying that if you continue to stick with this women are superior attitude it will kill you as well. Their only real choice is to rejoin with the men to survive.
    And why? Because the men under Joe have water. They dug down deep and are pumping it up. Joe’s plan is right. He has been making the wasteland green again. Much like a Lion protects his pride. He gives the other men and women who are not worthy to be in his army or his pride enough water to get by but knows they are not the future. He is. His sterile Army keeps the other factions away and protects his oasis and offers his army with no future for themselves the only thing that will motivate them. Glory in Valhalla should they die in his service.
    Max shepherds the sheep back to the only chance they have. Returning to the realm of men. And much like when one lion wishes to take over a another pride the older lion must be killed along with any of his seed that has been growing. The one enslaved woman that is pregnant is killed along with Joe and his direct wolves that protect him. Max is able to do this because he has re aligned the women to accept that they too must pull and equal weight as a man does and fight if they want to survive.
    Max now has all rights to take over the new pride and does what he does best. He washes his hands of all of it and walks back out into the wasteland to shepherd any lost sheep back he may find.
    Sorry for any spoiling of the movie but in the end it is men that are right and the women that are foolish. It is a man that saves them and protects the flock. The new pride will survive not because they are now being lead by a woman but because the women now accept that equal rights comes with equal responsibility.
    The thing I have never understood about feminism is that they have never once for one moment fought for equal responsibility. It’s why women will tell you they are equal to a man in all ways but refuse to demand their right and responsibility to have to sign up for selective service at 18 like men are required. Strange how that has never once been a rallying cry for women like killing their own babies is.
    And that in the end is what this movies is about. If you want to talk the talk you better learn to walk the walk.

    1. Well then. That makes it all better, hup, hup.
      As long as women are ready to admit they’re unscrupulous, Hitler like life destroyers, then that makes it all better.
      We can all now forget about the tens upon tens of millions of men’s lives destroyed through the white knight/gynocentric/man hating alimony and child support system. We can now all forget that women hold the majority of wealth in the US thanks to their DEAD husbands, fathers and frivorce raped X husbands.
      It’s good that women are finally recognizing the err of their ways – not that that heals the wounds of millions upon millions of destroyed men and boys.
      Good post, Gibson. I can see why you think so highly of yourself.

      1. Men could always elect to keep their legs shut. Ejaculating inside a woman has consequences.

        1. Good point! Or…OR…instead of just cutting off that pesky extra skin…We could cut…

        3. If you shut the partially opened top, the worms are cut in parts anyway. There’s no cost there!

      2. Miss Guided. What an appropriate name you call yourself.
        But thanks for proving my point. Care to self-inflict any more wounds or are you done?

        1. Oh Gibson. I love blokes like yourself. So tell me. How is it that I, and not you, self-inflicted wounds? You just apoligized for all women’s past sins, right? White knight, much, mangina?

        2. Ahh the lack of reading comprehension is strong in you. Care to point out where I apologized for anything?
          Care to point out when I thought highly of myself?
          You’re like a high school nitwit that thinks they can right a book report after only reading the cliff notes instead of reading the book.
          Go see the movie and then come back and explain how I was wrong.
          You are going to hate the fact that I’m right in what I said.

        3. You have me pegged pretty wrong. I don’t go to see a movie and then discount all that I’ve seen over the past fifty years – as you do – moron.

        4. Back so soon? Did the projector break? Sorry but I don’t engage in a battle of wits with unarmed people.

        6. Aww poor baby. Don’t go away mad. Just go away.
          But thanks for seceding the moral high ground.

        8. Really when will that start? I know I bet if you have the last word you can claim you won right. Have at it. It’s pyrrhic victory at best.

        9. You know how the wage, rape and DV stats have all been falsified to make men look like monsters and women like innocent lambs? Women have done the same with the benefits of marriage for men. They’ll tell you that you’ll live longer, make more money, be better behaved, yada, yada, yada. Why the lies? Because once you say “I do”, it’s all over. From that point forward, she has you by the balls. After that, piss her off and it’s alimony and child support Hades for you! It’s simple bait and switch – one of the oldest tricks in the book.
          If marriage is slavery for women – why do so many women here point out the supposed (they’re lying) benefits of marriage for men? Doesn’t make sense, right? Why would women promote marriage when it’s so bad for them? It’s the same as ‘1 in 5’ women being raped false stat. Yet – instead of demanding women only colleges – women are demanding co-ed fraternities. Pretty funny – right? Don’t be fooled. Marriage is the single biggest mistake men make in life – which is why you hear men say “don’t do it” and women saying “do it”. Many a man will promote marriage, only to find himself one day, after learning the truth, sucking on the end of a shotgun.
          The biggest predictor of who will survive in life and who will not is one’s ability to read between the lines and sort through the BS, cons and bait switches. I just gave you everything you need to know to successfully navigate life. You’re welcome.
          The gynocracy and patriarchy will work together to punish the detractors, which is why you now have the latest anti-male laws VAWA and ‘Yes Means Yes’. Feminists did not enact the man hating laws. Who did? The patriarchy. Why? For the gynocracy. What’s feminism? Hypergynocentrism.
          Feminism is nothing more than extreme gynocentrism. This is why you see progressives using the fake wage, DV and rape stats. They will go to any extreme to keep women in power and men disposable. Even the pope is getting in on the action.
          Women are the privilged class and always have been, which is why women get:
          The VAWA
          No-Fault Divorce
          Alimony
          Child Support
          Affirmative Action
          Title IX
          Far more state/fed funding for their health, education and welfare
          Yes Means Yes
          Exclusion from Selective Service
          Etc, etc, etc.
          Required reading for all men: (1) The Manipulated Man, (2) The Myth of Male Power and (3) Stand by Your Manhood.
          This year alone, 2015, hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of men, in the US alone, will be destroyed through divorce.
          Encouraging men to get married should be a crime punishable by law. I CAN fathom how women send their sons out to get married – it’s because their sons are disposable.
          Anti-feminists aren’t against male disposability – they’re against the loss of provision and protection of men. Anti-feminism, feminism and gynocentrism are all the same thing and are all self-interested. They just skin the cat with differing methods. There’s a lot of disagreement between women on the best way to cook a man.
          Feminism, under the guise of equality, hope to use force of law to strip men of power through careful manipulation of the patriarchy (destroy the patriarchy); hence the NFL commish’s near ousting after the Ray Rice debacle, the VAWA and Yes Means Yes. Women have no problem using their collective power to destroy men that don’t play ball their way; hence false rape and DV claims. Women vote for the man that will specifically benefit women as a gender – not society as a whole. Hades hath no fury…God help a public figure that sides with men – he’ll never get elected or re-elected. Gynocentrism is in inherently anti-male rights and anti-male.
          The majority of women are primarily concerned with their own privilege, feminists being the worst of the worst. Ironically, feminists want to destroy the patriarchy (destroy men and transfer men’s power and wealth to women) – when it’s the patriarchy giving feminists all of their power. This is why so many women won’t identify as feminists. They don’t want to lose their power over the men in their lives – but will only pay lip service to feminists and male disposability – because it is through male disposability that women gain their privilege.
          Men opting out of marriage and family means a huge withdrawal of wealth redistribution from men to women – which is why both feminists and anti-feminists fear MGTOW. What a predicament. Pesky MGTOW. The pope is a big hater of MGTOW, too – and men in general acting independently of women.
          Modern feminism didn’t even become a huge thing until we started shifting from an industrial to information based society and started shipping in cheap Latino labor and shipping out labor-based jobs. This is why women now demand the most powerful, most prestigious, most lucrative positions for themselves and then complain that there are no wealthy white knights with whom to marry up. Traditional male jobs that paid well are now either filled by low cost slave labor and/or are being handled in Asian slave labor camps. Women don’t have to take jobs that muss their nails or hair. You’re also going to start seeing more female-only STEM classes. Watch Sex in The City for more info.
          Women don’t want to marry down and will remain unmarried and childless in many cases as a result. They get no payoff by marrying down. That’s why women get so much state and federal funding for their heath, education and welfare. They make the babies. It is men who do the marrying down – not women. Women will marry the state before they marry down. This is why you see women perturbed by the “lack of marriageable men” and at the same time decrying male privilege (as if that exists).
          There is no grand child without the disposability of men – because there’s no privilege without male disposability; hence the inherent cognitive dissonance of hypergynocentrism. Gynocentrism is male disposability light. Hypergynocentrism (feminism) is the blatant, unvarnished hatred of men.
          The same conundrum, from a woman’s standpoint, can be found in selective service. Anti-feminists are against selective service for women and want to go back to the good ole days where men provided for and protected women – a time when if the woman divorced her husband – she got everything and he moved in with another divorced guy (The Odd Couple). A lot of women aren’t happy that alimony and child support are being phased out in our age of equality – and affluent feminists don’t want the tables turned on women – with women paying men alimony and child support to men. For this reason, as women continue to gain more wealth through force of law, alimony and child support will go away.
          Next comes nationalized, paid maternity leave. This won’t benefit men – nor is it intended to – since the majority of births will be out of wedlock. This is also how the cost of childbearing will be transferred to men (bachelor tax) – a portion of what you’d normally be paid will be put in the corporate kitty fund and higher taxes for women’s paid maternity leave. Women will get the tax break for having the kids – and be able to write off any alimony or child support from some sucker from another mother.
          The big lie is that marriage was slavery for women. Society (both men and women) expected men and women to behave in certain ways, with the expectation that men provide for and protect and that women care for the children and home. In fact, how high you could rise in wealth as a man was often determined by your marital status and how many kids you had. You’re starting to see more articles on how married men with kids make more money, behave better, drink less, are more productive and live longer lives, right? There’s a reason for that. Ah – the false dichotomy of feminism and gynocentrism.
          Yeah – women may lose access to their grand kids when their son’s lives are destroyed – but that’s a risk they’re willing to take, so long as women remain the privileged. Conversely – if I had a son – I’d pay him to remain unmarried and a non-cohabitant.

        11. “I’m not going to read what you wrote because it makes me, Gibson, look like a complete ass kisser.”

        12. Gotta love the straw man. But thanks for for all the self projecting. Looks like someone thinks highly of themselves.
          Come back when you have something worth listening to.
          Once again keep going for the last word. In your immature mind it means you won.
          Victory is assured.

        13. I kicked your ass six ways to Sunday. If you have a problem with that, it’s your problem.

        16. Not yours fishy. But keep digging that hole you are in. You’ll find the bottom soon enough.

        18. Like most women you like to hear yourself talk but make little sense.
          This bores me. Go play somewhere else.

        21. Because all men react as you do, right? All men stick up for the lesbos and homos.

        22. Again with the straw men. You make no sense. Come back when you get a clue or see the movie and refute what I said. Not what I didn’t say.

        23. Your use of “straw men” is an attempt to hide your ignorance.

        27. Thank goodness. I thought you’d be hounding me for the rest of the night.

        29. Listen, girl friend. If you care to look around you, I’m surrounded by supporters. You’re here because men created an environment where you could harass them, at little cost. Have a heart. Just die already.

        30. You really have a strange need to validate yourself to men. Why is that? Lack of self esteem?
          Look you lost the moral high ground a half hour ago. Not that you ever had it. And only seek to have me lower myself to your level so that you can feel validated and keep getting frustrated that a man won’t give you what you want.

        31. So what is it? Bad skin? Misshaped vagina? Small breasts? Or it it as small, penis like clit?

        40. You have yet to prove that. But keep digging and calling names. It won’t help solve your issues.

        42. You are the one that keeps coming back to get abused by a man because you lack self worth. I’m just swatting at a fly.

        45. Your snark actually didn’t do anything to disprove her assertions. Just sayin’.

        46. Considering all her comments were deleted suffice to say she lived up to her name. She offered nothing of a debate and only wanted to insult and see if I would take the bait and drop to her level. I didn’t.

  75. pretty good bait for the trolls but nothing compared to forney’s article about tattoos, those were the days!

    1. They still keep coming over there. However at this point 99% are sock puppets.

        1. I don’t care how this comes off, but you make me want to have a BB marathon.

    3. The reaction from Forney’s article was far more hilarious for sure. The troll comments from the Mad Max article are just boring.

        1. We’re a diverse bunch, unlike your lemming ilk that was corralled here by some leftist sites, yes.

        2. Cartoon snuff porn as opposed to real human snuff porn won’t get you prosecuted, right?

        4. That’s choice coming from someone who can only get laid by a “body pillow” of his “waifu”.

        5. Shame that the left doesn’t produce better trolls than this anymore. You guys have gotten real complacent. 2/10

        7. The reason for such lame trolling by the left is fairly obvious.
          They’re stupid.
          Now I don’t mean “they’re stupid” as in “they disagree with me”.
          I mean they really are stupid (as in fewer brain cells stupid).
          In other words what allows them to be duped into becoming SJWs in the first place is the same thing that’s responsible for their lame ass trolling.

  76. Women have jumped the shark. Male birth control, artificial wombs and sex bots can’t come fast enough. I hate it that I have to go through a woman to have a child. That’s like going through Hitler to spare a Jew’s life. It’s a tragedy. It’s a God awful, crying shame.
    Get thee behind me and what what…

  77. Slow clap for Roosh.
    Well done sir; your response was timely and appropriate. This is also commendable because Clarey’s article so unexpectedly hit their nerves; it was pretty par for the course for the site, as you note. For a more inflammatory article, you probably had a response prepared, but for Clarey’s, you most likely created one on the fly.
    In conclusion: nailed it.

  78. I hope the movie is a flop. This would be a major win for the manosphere. I will not go watch it, and inform my fellow men to steer clear from the feminazi propaganda bullshit reboot.

  79. They can’t handle all that heat.
    They gotta sod off from the kitchen, including those manginas with aprons.

  80. I would like to say as kindly as possible that I am amazed of how much content can be created over your previous silly post.
    Aliens, Underworld, Resident Evil, Terminator 2! Let that sink in.
    I for one, will watch Mad Max with my very traditional Mexican husband and father-in-law.
    Ignorance is bliss.

  81. The reason they call ROK a men’s rights site is because they want to:
    – discredit all men’s rights activity
    – cluster ROK’s ideas (most of which I wholeheartedly agree with) alongside fathers’ rights, alimony, etc issues, and then shriek: “Look, they’re all anti-women!”
    – make it a choice for aimless males between “going evil” and being nice (succumbing to her stilettos)
    Even then, this publicity is nothing but good, because there are many men out there, some of whom I’ve introduced to the Red Pill, who have a nagging feeling about this whole societal scheme, yet aren’t even aware of what’s out there, nor the amount of work put in by Men.

    1. Right, it’s just like how the leftists label all of gamergate as “right wing white supremacist and misogynist bigots”.

      1. Right wing white supremacists and misogynist bigots do as right wing white supremacists and misogynist bigots will.

        1. Yes. Go troll those sites. Why waste your time here. Why the F are you here anyway? I have asked you that numerous times?

  83. LOL i’ve encountered several waves of manginas, feminists, white knights etc who have attempted to paint us all as basically knuckle draggers despite the fact their remarks have amounted to nothing more meaningful than character assassinations under the false veneer of enlightened opinion.
    These people feel threatened by the fact that the critical thinker here does not tow the feminist narrative, and rather than discuss their disagreement with us in a civilized fashion they choose instead to troll and demonstrate false bravado while doing so.
    These people are a collective joke. They are useful idiots who wouldn’t know an original thought if it bit them on the nose. They’ve been so effectively indoctrinated by the feminist “debarge” effect that they might as well consider themselves institutionalized, since non conformist thought would likely be as upsetting to them as freedom would be to someone incarcerated for most of his life.
    The male trolls are gender quislings and the females are solipsist harpies who can’t stand that a Man would disagree with them over their false god of feminism.
    They are both equally worthless and equally clueless. Their only real worth is to be Bs bucket carriers for the left.

      1. Everything that this article and these posts are about, and you keep coming…validating post after post! Its too easy! My God there are some dumb M Fers out there.

        1. I’m glad to see you’re starting to self-actualize. That’s unheard of behavior in primates up till now.

        2. How’s the eugenics research coming along? I have learned more than you have today about the subject.

        5. And if you’re living in Oregon your physician may assist you with your euthanasia to put to use what you’ve learned.

        7. So upset.
          Old and Fat
          Basement dwellers
          Small Penis
          So on and so forth.
          Again, why are you here?

        10. Again, everything about today’s article and posts have been about dummies like you, and here you come validating everything. Why are you here validating the article and the site?

        11. Again, everything about today’s article and posts have been about dummies like you, and here you come validating everything. Why are you here validating the article and the site??

        12. Again, everything about today’s article and posts have been about dummies like you, and here you come validating everything. Why are you here validating the article and the site?

        13. Again, everything about today’s article and posts have been about dummies like you, and here you come validating everything. Why are you here validating the article and the site??

        14. Again, everything about today’s article and posts have been about dummies like you, and here you come validating everything. Why are you here validating the article and the site?

        19. Again, everything about today’s article and posts have been about dummies like you, and here you come validating everything. Why are you here validating the article and the site??

        20. I think you are a dumb asshole but do i come to your place and fuck with you ? No. Dumb asshole.

        21. Typical Broad. Thanks for the yet additional evidence that you run on emotion, and that logic exceeds you, and this site scares you. Dummy.

        22. Delusion is believing anyone takes your bullshit with anything more serious than a smirk.
          Trolling on here doesn’t make you some leftist hero, it only shows how threatened by critical thought you are.
          In that respect, you have succeeded marvelously. Give yourself a handicapped clap!

        24. Why is it that those who have been repressed inevitably become the oppressor? Ridiculing those with Downs or any kind of physical or mental challenge show’s you all for what you truly are.

        25. Who is ridiculing the handicapped? I think the mentally handicapped have far more in the way of gray matter than people like you do.
          They are retarded because of circumstances beyond their control, you people act retarded because of circumstances under your control.
          🙂

        27. I actually do, in more ways than you can ever possibly imagine.
          Although i technically identify more with Joshua. He didn’t put up with bullshit either.

        30. Seriously. They have no clue how they contribute to their own kind’s bad rep.

      1. I only want hillary clinton to make me enchiladas.
        Tell her to come here immediately so she can kneel before Zod.
        🙂

        2. Not as active as yours, considering you’ve never had the pleasure of seeing my phallus, nor will you ever have that privilege, regardless of your gender.
          I was wondering when the character assassinations would start. What’s next…making fun of my nationality? (oh wait, you are working your way towards that on the other thread)
          lol

        3. I’m sorry did I confuse you with a white wife beater undershirt, grande gigante belt buckle, rodeo jeans and snake skin boot wearin’ quick to pull a knife when spurned by the opposite sex person of color?

        4. The only thing you’ve confused me for is someone who thinks your unremarkable remarks are anything more than a source of amusement, and a further justification of why this site is more essential and threatening to the layman conformist mind than ever before.
          😀

        6. Vete a la isla de los ciegos porque en esta tierra no tienes ojos para mirar, pepito
          😀

        8. Why stop there. Call him a racist and misogynist while you’re at it. I do have a question. If fat shaming and down grading women with small breasts is bad why is it OK for you to shame a man’s penis? Just wondering.

    3. What’s important in all these is, we made it in the menstrual media (I’m gonna trademark this), and look at them how their heads explode. Very entertaining to watch.

  84. Having seen this film it’s clear that the boys running this site are total pussies, and probably mentally ill. End of story.

        1. Ironically, if the basement boys here were actually subjected to a real male dominated society and all the responsibilities, and social dynamics that accompany it, they would be throwing a fit.

        3. This is probably the truest comment I’ve ever read from a dissenter on this site. Well said.

        4. I wish…I pray, I pine, for the days of truly male dominated society. It is still a male dominated society today, but not the same. The pendulum swung a little too far, now it is coming back. All of you dummies would be throwing a fit, like you did in the late 60s and 70s. Dummies. Why are you here again? Still havent answered me??????

        5. I wish…I pray, I pine, for the days of male dominated society. All of you dummies would be throwing a fit, like you did in the late 60s and 70s. Dummies. Why are you here again? Still havent answered me??????

        6. Under a real male dominated society, a tranny wannabe like you don’t get to be one. But you can always go to the woods and consorting with the cougars.

        8. Your mom almost didn’t resist, must be my big irresistible cock that made her dropped her fake indignance.
          Do you have a big cock? You could be my bastard son.

        9. That’s Don Juan’s lance you keep mistaking for the penis you don’t have.

      2. If a film that has a female hero fighting along side the male hero, and taking an active role in her own survival threatens you, you’re a pussy. Do the original Star Wars movies threaten you, too?

        1. You mean the post 1980’s Star Wars, the feminist version, right?

        2. Good, so there’s no reason this film should bother you. Author should have waited to see it first. Although Im guessing when you say “feminine woman” you mean one that fucks on command, cooks you dinner, cleans your shorts, and has no life, or desires outside of you.

        3. You are a dummy, but based on what you just said, great, then there is no reason for you to hang around here and post anymore. Continuing to do so makes you a troll. Thanks for the input. Have a great weekend.

        4. A woman with a crew cut is not feminine. Neither is acting tough like a man.

        6. your referring to the five wives – women as sex slaves?
          anti-trafficking is a big leftie theme at the moment of course, even though the issue is massively exaggerated (at least in the west) – that was the conclusion of a guardian journalist at least
          …which makes this is a white knight fantasy. Big bad patriarch. Sex slave women. Mad max comes to the rescue …. wait a moment. Can’t have men rescuing sex slave women, can we, that would be err. patronising. What about female agency? So Furiosa is conjured into being to provide an acceptable substitute – someone who has the right moral qualifications for the rescue in question. Namely tits.
          Hence the male guilt you would have felt supporting a lone male rescuer is assuaged by having mad max in drag perform exactly the same task.
          No, I haven’t seen the film, but the entire plot screams male guilt fantasy.

        8. ” . . .Im guessing . . .”
          Of course you are, although fantasizing would be more accurate.

        10. What’s feminine about bald, butch and beating up men (in fantasy, not reality mind you where it doesn’t happen)?

      4. Anybody with under 50 posts is a troll, man.. You’ll see a lot of these muppets floating around here for a while..

  85. I still can’t get over the fact that SJW’s want to defend the pretty white girl from South Africa whose family benefited from white privilege during apartheid.

  86. If women are physically equal to men, then the WNBA should be immediately abolished and all those “equal” female players incorporated into the NBA. Because they’re just as capable, right?

    1. I prefer they start marching in the streets demanding to have to sign up for selective service at 18 like men do.
      But I’m not holding my breath on that one.

      1. Exactly. The WNBA was just the first example to come to mind. The scary part about women in the front line military is the prospect of lowering standards for acceptance (i.e. SEALs, Rangers, etc.) so that “diversity” can be achieved.

        1. Nah we just need to raise the standards of women. It’s our bar they want to jump over. Strange the Israel does not have a problem with their women reaching the same bar.

      2. You really don’t want women registering for selective service, the very idea of women being drafted into war is pretty much the death rattle of a former civilization.

        1. Amen. My answer to that as well. Well said sir.

        1. Not good enough, we wannna see some uppity cunts get slammed hard on the field.

  87. I’ll sum up this new Mad Maxine movie:
    – All (old) men in the movie are vile, disgusting, disfigured and/or rapists
    – All women are good and benign
    – The leader is called “dad”. An evil patriarchy is portrayed.
    – The old women live in some kind of gynarchy. It could have been an utopia but was destroyed because the soil went sour. I am just assuming that men are surely responsible for this.
    – The mindless boy-drone followers of “dad” are all men. The are unable to free themselves and rely on women to show them freedom.
    – Furiosa is the protagonist. She is the one looking for redemption, she is the one who kills the bad guy. Max is basically just following her.
    – There are no women shown who are in any way responsible. All the evil is committed by men. The women are merely victims, at the same time there are portrayed as equally strong and wiser.
    I Dare you to SWITCH the genders and honestly no way the main stream media wouldn’t be crying about how vile/disgusting this movie is. SMH

      1. Quit being a baby whining about people you don’t know on a forum you don’t belong.

        1. No ones whining but you. I’m just bringing some real manliness to a site that lacks it.

        2. You wouldn’t know real manliness if it rammed it’s cock up your ass and cum shot out your mouth (on account of your ass having been so reamed out by your wife’s strap-on no doubt, ha ha ha).

        3. That explains a lot with you. You enjoy being a cuckhold don’t you? I mean look how excited you got by explaining that. Clean that keyboard up.

        4. Just because your girlfriend orders you to troll a website, does not mean you should. Grow a pair and tell her to STFU.

        5. Me grow a pair? I mean you’re afraid of a movie because of the symbolism.
          Shed that fear. It will be ok!

        7. Considering your a scared little girl, afraid of a movie with big bad women, I would suggest letting that ball drop, go outside and promptly play in traffic.

        9. The only feminist here is you. Unique is the key word in your inferiority.
          Now as stated little girl, go watch the fucking notebook, you aren’t fit to be a man.

        11. Beta male? You sure do have a lot of terms to throw around while you mask your manhood.
          The only term I have for you is: inferior.

      2. “It’s a movie, quit being a baby, let that ball drop and get over it.”
        ———————–
        When you tell that to the likes of Leonard “even the chalk is white!” Pitts Jr. regarding “Birth of a Nation” then you can come over here and talk shit.

        1. Let me put it simple. Who the fuck cares about some journalist who wrote a few books? I sure as shit don’t.
          I’m enough of a man, that I don’t need to look up to anyone. Nice try shit stain.

    2. Yeah, the women do blame men for the state of the planet. When the ‘half-life’ (beta) male is falling off the side of the truck one of the women blames him for the assumed nuclear war. But not him, all men, for war and devastation.

    3. I’ve noticed this theme in TONS of movies and TV shows. Even if a woman commits evil acts they always find a way to blame a man for it. It’s always the men who have no “good” redeeming qualities.
      ***Spoiler alert***
      In House of Cards the president’s wife commits all manner of deception and immoral acts for personal gain but fights with her “conscience” (because deep down she’s a good person) while her husband is just a straight evil motherfucker who deserves everything bad that happens to him.
      No woman in the entire show does anything bad, it’s ONLY the men.

  89. MAY THE GLORIOUS FEMINIST AGENDA PUT FORTH IN THE MAD MAX MOVIES RING THROUGH THE SACRED HALLS AND GLORIOUS CITIES OF THE ETERNAL GENDER NEUTRAL EMPIRE. VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

  90. Isn’t this discussion about a stupid movie a little bit of a waste of energy? I really hate how women are portrayed in today’s cinema and I frequently quit watching when I see a girl roundhouse kicking multiple russian bouncers or some shit like that, but every sane person on the planet understands the difference between reality and fiction and will not be influenced by such “propaganda”.
    I don’t disagree with Aaron Clarey at all but this whole manosphere vs. feminists thing is starting to look like a game of dodgeball between two teams of monkeys throwing feces.

    1. True, there is much to be said about framing the context of a debate and not dumbing down to the conversation as presented. When the feminists rejoice this movie as a ‘win’ it’s as though they don’t also see that it is just a movie. And if replacing a character written as a man, with a woman, constitutes winning, I’m not sure exactly what was won. If they want to make an action movie, women vs. men, I’m sure no one would care. It’s taking an original character and changing it to suit a specific agenda that seems pointless. It’s the same idea as the people who petition to make James Bond black. Why not just create a separate character and write a new world about a black special agent?

    2. But when one side starts to have the government pass laws that greatly affect my freedom and rights, I have a real problem with that. Guilty, even proven innocent. That’s what’s wrong.

      1. Oh, name calling and epithets. You’ve no credibility left. Nice work!

      2. Nah, Anita panders to leftist imbeciles whom fund her next Lamborghini purchase as she steals other people’s footage and art.

  92. I posted in the original thread last night afer I saw the movie.
    Theron might’ve had a lot of time in the trailers but Hardy definitely was the star of the movie. The plot somewhat mirrors The Road Warrior/MM2 – Theron’s character was analogous to Pappagallo in that she had a plan to “save” a group. I don’t want to give away any spoilers, but her plan fails and Max is the one who comes up with a plan that succeeds.
    Theron’s original tribe is a group of somewhat Amazonian women but they aren’t invincible and they incur a lot of losses in the car chases.
    The “wives” are women exploited by the antagonist, but he’s an absolute dictator who exploits everyone, male and female. The “wives” of Immortan Joe do a little bit of fighting, but they seemed to do more screaming than fighting. One of the wives also assumes a nurturer/caregiver role vis a vi the Nux character. An older woman from Theron’s tribe also cares for a bag that contains a sample of lost plant species, much like a “traditional” woman role in a hunter/gatherer tribe.
    So I didn’t think it was a feminist movie.

    1. What, 4-5 hot bitches in the movie but not even 1 went stark naked for at least a full 5 minutes? What a waste of a potentially decent movie.

    2. I have a question.
      I’m a big fan of Road Warrior and I was looking forward to this movie until I heard about all the feminist crap in it. Why does Max risk his life for a bunch of women and bitches in this movie? Because “it’s the right thing to do ” ?

      1. I’ll try to keep the spoilers to a minimum.
        He did it because he was seeming redemption for his own internal conflicts due to the guilt he felt over a loss he suffered in the past.

  93. Lol, look feminists, if you’re making a Superman movie and in all the adverts all you see is Superman doing superman shit, it should be easily understood that you’re going to be pissed off if the vast majority of the actual movie is Lois Lane doing Lois Lane shit while ordering Superman around. Why not call the movie “Lois Lane” so people know what they are getting? That’s right, you know nobody wants to see a Lois Lane movie.
    Same way no one wants to see an uglified Charlize Theron movie. Guys didn’t even want to see Charlize Theron as an action hero when she looked hot:
    http://www.joblo.com/images_screensavers/screen-aeon-flux.jpg

  94. I’ll make it easy for all the trolls who want to address me without jumping all over the place.
    If your whole presence for being here is to intellectually discredit our belief that this movie is pushing feminism, then put your money where your fingers are and prove it.
    Give me an intellectual exchange and i will do no less in turn.
    The line to debate me starts underneath this post.
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    1. Honestly Daniel, when I have actually seen the whole movie I will do just that. I will not try using only the trailers. Unlike the majority who have commented you seem to have a sense of honor about you. Hopefully I’ll get to the movie this weekend.

      1. Great, and while you have your wallet open, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I would like to sell you.

      2. Now you’re talking with some synaptic savvy. I gladly accept.
        For the record, we are not going only on the trailers…look online before or after the movie and pay attention to all the positive posts regarding the movie’s feminist inculcation.
        And yes I do have a sense of honor as well as a flair for condescension diogenes would have been envious of.
        If you keep it civil with me from now on, I will do no less for you.

      3. But, at this point, with the mainstream press such as Time Magazine and many others calling this a “feminist movie” and pointing out that the author of the Vagina Monologues was a consultant, it’s highly rational to assume that it has a “feminist” storyline.
        And it’s highly irrational to mock people for believing the mainstream press’ assessment of this movie.
        Right?

    2. The best rule in debating them is to never let them think they won and don’t lower yourself to their immature levels. Let them dig the hole all by themselves and stand atop their mountain of dirt and look down upon them.
      I spent close to an hour swatting away a fly that kept trying to get me to lower myself to her level and the more I stayed above the flak the more it pissed her off. Eventually they will run away.
      All they want is the need to have the last word so they think they won. Never let them have it.

      3. Actually women in general think proper debate is name calling, shaming, and attempts at emasculation. Women are well versed in emotional warfare, it’s compensation for a lack of upper body strength. They always want the last word, it’s really enjoyable to ignore them, or laugh at them. There is a time for showing respect for women like female Judges during a divorce and a time for ignoring them like a fat office whale who thinks you are rude.
        I am guilty of responding to some of the female trolls on this site and it always turns into a death spiral of tit for tat. No opinions are swayed and no real debate just insults. Usually one of us gets bored and it ends much like a messy divorce, it resembles a mud fight of human excrement.

        1. This we agree on. this is a matter of opinion and not a legal debate, and although I joked wit you on my last comment, there isn’t a “correct” view in Matters of opinion. Plus, I’ve never known anyone to change a firmly held belief because someone told them their penis was small, made insinuations about their sexuality, and called them names.

        2. I will apologize for my rude comments I made to you in an another posting, it seems you are willing to engage in some intellectual discourse rather than, the fall back small penis comments some women like to use.

        3. it’s quite all right. I know that seems to be the popular way that women use on this thread. As I haven’t actually seen any of your penises (that I know of) and even if I had, I don’t like to make assumptions until I see what you can do with it, i don’t really see the logic to making comments about what’s in your pants… it’s not that different than a man following me to catcall in my opinion. That was why I went to the trouble of reading all of the comments. After the feminists were so awful to that scientists, I stared to wonder if modern feminism had become the aggressor they are always claiming men to be.

        4. Yeah my encounter yesterday turned into a death spiral. I just would not give into her desire to have me stoop to her level. Funny thing was that she went and deleted all her comments or they were deleted for her saying patently offensive stuff later on.

        5. I’ve been reading through some of your comment threads and you seem like a pretty nice person.

  95. It’s funny how many people who allege to hold traditional gender role values turned hostile the moment I cited that article on their stupid excitement to white out Mel Gibson.
    The comments were so disgusting and pathetic I couldn’t take it.

  96. I read an article on the “Askmen” website that was obviously written by a “beta” “mangina” Have attached the link below. The headline basically sums up the article – Female Blockbuster Leads Is this the year that woman finally crack the Hollywood boys club – Mad Max obviously gets a mention but the writer of the article forgot the fact the name of the film is Mad Max not Mad Charlene if a female actress has to piggy back off a series about a lone MALE warrior in a post apocalyptic world and call it a success for feminists then he seriously needs a dose of testosterone and a dose of reality.
    http://au.askmen.com/recess/opinions/female-blockbuster-leads.html

  97. Heisenbuggar, I would always prefer the company of the people in the pictures you’ve posted over your sick sorry ass.

    1. And I would prefer the company of someone intelligent. Once again, why are you here? Here is another friend for your kind:

  98. MGTOW are those horrible misogynists that keep disagreeing with women! MGTOW are sissies that can’t get a date and live in their mother’s basement! MGTOW are the lower status men that won’t bow to women’s demands! MGTOW won’t forward their genes into the next generation because:
    Women control birth like the Nazis controlled the death of Jews.
    Mass murder.
    Her body…her choice.

  100. Immortality benefits
    To society
    -Willingness to invest in the long term future, and less
    apathy towards environmental destruction, due to justifying your limited life
    span (“the I wont be here in so many years from now so who cares, syndrome ”
    this apathy damages the individual and society, the individual has less incentive to be sentient, since he sees himself as being at odds with a hostile universe, instead of developing a holistic naturalist relationship, he remains trapped in a confusing survival of the fittest, in which he exists to be used by the hive and then barbarically discarded by a funeral home, which dishonors his life, lessens meaning with the temporary nihilism it incites , and inspires defeatism, you’re more likely to respect people if your vibes actually last and echo into eternity, IF we reap what we sow in society, and we must endure the fruits of our actions no matter how bitter or sweet, than a long term future produces an incentive to be better, our good actions vibrate for thousands of years
    -No more medical costs, simple procedures done once a year
    cleanse genetic damage, and gene therapies re-new cells, or machines refresh
    the nano-particles in your home whcih are then re-injected, or perhaps, once advanced enough, the renewal
    of cellular function happens every hour, or immediately, once the particles are
    advanced enough, the process of renewal happens instantly as they detect damage, nano-bot immune system augmentation capabilities
    -particles augment bloodstream, delivering more cerebral
    oxygenation, filter and scan bloodstream for nutrient content, than deliver them
    at specific areas, all of this is monitored on a retinal display contact lenses microns thick
    -Unlimited amount of time to develop innovations which
    increase the carrying capacity of the planet, and eventual expansion into the
    infinite space, Ultimately, infinite survival of the species
    -Unlimited length of time to re-engineer biology so it is
    better, not just at par,
    -After the rejuvenation biotechnology has peaked, organ
    augmentation will allow muscles to heal almost instantly, and technology will
    be able to create the micro-tears for athletic muscular adaptations, hormones
    like testosterone will be designed to cause no-ill side effects, nanoparticles
    will seek out injured tissue, and repair muscles instantly, therefore, you will
    be as muscular you want to be for any situation on command, possibly a voice or
    thought command, the way we use tension and force to apply beneficial muscular
    adaptations will change, working out won’t have you doing 2 hours of exercises,
    instead technology will take care of it, inducing careful changes to muscle
    hypertrophy
    Software for the perfect designer body will be possible,
    basically, turning DNA into just malleable and programmable software, which can
    update as quick as a computer program
    -IQ will be around 1000-2000 idling, and augmented to
    computers and other advanced ai so that anything is possible, this will be
    inexpensive
    -Sleep will be optional
    -perfect designer environments will be possible through
    virtual reality mediums, the retinal lense, will give full 1080 degrees fields
    of vision, so you will be able to enter these designer worlds on command, it will
    be inter-dimensional travel, with the user able to do whatever they want, or enter other people’s worlds, Artificial intelligence that understands your personality will generate accurately, the experience which would be optimal based on timing
    -Studies of neuroplasticity and learning mean that the time it takes to know something is decreased exponentially by a factor of 10 each year, meaning you can instantly learn a language, advanced STEM career, without having to use medieval repetition , education will just be instant, the learning process will be a relic, it will be a download, the list of talents will be endless and 1000,0000 long
    -designer particles will cause massive amounts of dopamine and other pleasurable chemicals
    in the brain, so the experience will be 10-100 times more pleasurable than anything
    possible today, with 0 side-effects, therefore creating the ultimate ecstasy
    for all of eternity. The beauty of the universe and our capacity for aesthetic experiences and appreciation increase exponentially at the same time, creating a quantum super-orgasm of the mind
    The Alternative
    You croak. The end.
    You become the last generation that missed out on paradise. You become worm
    shit. You remain dust in the wind. Each day your journey nears closer to it’s end, your cellular damage builds up, you eventually lose your agility, your vitality, the things which made life powerful, the things which gave you substance, you become robbed of conquest over the elements of nature, you become nothing, you never have sex again because you are worm shit, you lose everything, the beauty , the experience of being the rare conscious universe observing itself, the friendships, the laughter, the jokes, the noble challenges and pain that go with it,
    -and then there were the days, in which death itself had died
    the prophecy 2035

  101. I’d like to quote Larry David here, because I think he put it best. “Fuck those guys! They’re a bunch of a fuckin’ assholes!”

    1. So basically you haven’t taken the time to examine the site and are instead hoping for upvotes. That’s too bad man, you may have sold your balls to feminism, but they ultimately don’t appreciate it. Eventually you’ll end up looking for answers as to why you were betrayed. When you do, we’ll talk man to man.

      1. I think you might have misread my comment. I’m agreeing with you guys who are boycotting the movie. the “guys” i’m saying to go fuck are the guys in the media, not the guys on this site. Sorry for the confusion. My bad.

  102. I didn’t even like the new “Mad Max” reboot all that much (the plot was a little threadbare), but I did like the badass female characters. If having them in a science-fiction/fantasy movie is too much for you man-babies to handle, no wonder women won’t let any of you within ten feet of them. Even your own ringleader Roosh, suave master of pick-up that he is, feels advocating the legalization of rape would benefit him.
    At least watching you guys bawl in your diapers is entertaining.

      1. But that would require me being female. And you have even less reason to presume I’m female than you are, since I’m the one with the masculine username.

        3. You mean to say you don’t wear a tampon in sympathy? Fair weather White Knight…

        4. Actually some gay men use tampons to plug up their anus because it’s been plowed so many times they can no longer keep them completely shut.

    3. I’ve been keeping up with this site and Roosh’s blog for some time now and I can find no evidence supporting your assertion that Roosh, or any other contributor on ROK supports, condones, or otherwise believes real rape is justified. And by “real”, I mean the actual crime of rape as defined by the law, not the hysterical brayings of the feminist left.
      Therefoere, I can only conclude that you must be including in your definition of rape the feminist/SJW delusion that says a woman can wait weeks, months, or even years after a sexual encounter with rape-colored glasses and claim she was forced into it because she regrets spreading her legs so willingly. It’s not a mistake if it’s labelled as rape, right?
      If you’re going to post up here, pissing and moaning about how the reaction to Mad Maxine:Vagina Road is baseless and without merit, then I suggest you try to avoid using equally meritless arguments like “zomg Ringleader Roosh supports teh rapez!” as a counter point.

  103. RoK needs to check out how many public computers ban their website. The most recent one I came across was Tim Horton’s (Canadian coffee shop) wi-fi. Twice I have emailed when prompted and asked why RoK was banned. The response? >>>>>>>>
    cricket, cricket.

    1. Hey, can you post the email address? I’ll ask them why as well and others can do too.

      1. Go to any Tim Horton’s and hook onto their Wi-Fi then try to access RoK. A message kicks back saying the website is blocked. It then gives you the opportunity to ask for the website to be unblocked. The first response was “we’ll get back to you”. Second time there was no response.

  104. Here’s the takeaway from all these.. Hit the feminist and the left, in this case Hollywood, where it hurts most (their wallet) and watch them go ape shit.

      1. Or do something like this.. it’s actually true.. She was bitching about the spelling in some guy post..
        Her circuit breakers must have gotten overheated big time..
        “guest” NikkiSwarm • an hour ago
        Spell check nazi. I speak and write in a a foreign language. How am I doing so far? You know you can’t say shit about me, right?

  105. lol.
    Good Job ROK. Keep it up.
    You saved me money and time.
    Thank you.

  106. Notice how many of the articles came from the UK.
    That country is so fucked these days.

  108. You have to be a real brain-donor to think that movie is seriously a part of the feminist agenda. It’s hilarious how threatened you feel by a simple movie. XD

        2. Got scuba diving gear, don’t worry about it. Still waiting for a trace of intelligence to emanate from your side.

      2. Abuse. Is that what you call your weak attempts at annoying me? Stay on topic, sport.

    2. Yeah. What’s next? A bunch of crazed feminists chasing Joss Whedon off of Twitter–and threatening violence against him–for not being even more beta than he already is?

      1. Can you really control what people say or do on the internet? This site is a great example of our great amendment, Freedom of Speech, no matter how dumb. Feminists can do whatever floats their boat on twitter, I don’t care much for them.

        1. Nor do I. That’s why, when I heard that Time Magazine called this a feminist movie that used the author of a The Vagina monologues as a consultant, I sensed that I wouldn’t dig it.

    3. Besides the fact that it makes no sense. It’s called Mad Max but he’s the driver in the movie.
      What’s next…Spiderman taking over a Captain America movie?

      2. There are a lot of things that don’t make sense in Mad Max. And you pick out that small detail to stand your point on? Good luck with that.
        Lol, way to take it to extremes.

        1. it’s the starting point…a very important point. Aliens had Ripley…it was called Aliens (not Ripley, not something else, Aliens)..a good movie. This is called Mad Max..doesn’t make sense (for some of us, anyways).

        2. Obligatory: “Don’t judge a book by it’s cover.”
          Aladdin was called Aladdin (not Genie, not something else, Aladdin…). Aladdin had Genie. I would argue that the aliens played a supporting role in Alien(s), as Ripley was the one actually pushing the story forward, responding to the threat, etc. The protagonist. (I’m surprised you didn’t burst into flames for bringing up a movie with a lead female role.)
          Much like Genie was supporting Aladdin fabricate his Prince Ali persona, which is already questionable behavior, I would say if not for Genie, Aladdin would’ve sucked balls. But, hey, that’s what you get when you try to assume the plot of a movie based on it’s title.

    4. fortunately for science, you will never be a brain donor.
      But please, continue exalting your incompetence at critically deconstructing commercial psychology. Without you, China would still be a poor third world country.

      1. I don’t know what’s worse with this comment. The fact that you actually believe there is commercial psychology at play with this movie, or that you can’t figure out that there’s more than commercial psychology going on to make China the way it is today.

        1. good explanation.
          Well actually, it’s not. How about you try to justify your stupidity for us?

        2. Do you realize how insecure you need to be to believe that what is being portrayed in the movie is exactly what is described by the author of this article?
          It’s pretty delusional to think that you’re in some secret war of the genders, and that you need to pretend you’re hyper-masculine to compensate for said imaginary conflict.
          We’ve seen tyrants all through history employ these same tactics on the weak-minded, and soft-ego’d. You’re falling for it.

  109. I got here from mainstream media bullshit.
    Wanted to read the truth, ended up doing it
    Thanks.

  110. Thanks for making the film more popular whiney women hating crazies! Oh you must have fun writing your little stories full of “facts” for your friends, but not nearly as much as I had laughing at the comments here! 🙂

    1. What? Time Magazine DIDN’T call it a highly feminist film that wasn’t primarily about Mad Max and used the author of The Vagina Monologues as a consultant?
      Sounds like a movie I’d hate and one you’d jack off too. Why can’t we both be happy in our choices?

  111. Is it many tens of millions of lives aborted – or is it many hundreds of millions of lives aborted? I can’t keep track of these things women do.
    Thank you ladies – for giving life the big finger and throwing them into the garbage disposal. Cause you know – women are so that and stuff.
    I hate women. Deeply.

  112. “Grab a bunch of popcorn ” writes the Feminist reactionary writer. Hmmm. I think the last thing the Fem tribe needs is additional carbs. Their asses are all ready big enough

  113. What is it now? Centuries of men getting shit on for women’s privilege? I’m that guy that’s going to relish the taste of women’s flesh after I beat, maim, drown, burn and then eat them.
    Ladies – if you thought you were getting away with murder all these years, just you wait to see what happens in the epoc. Ohhhh – Please God – Let me be there.
    Can’t you just feel the dead women everywhere? Can’t you just feel the millions of dead fetuses rising up – taking their long awaited revenge! There is no part of a woman that will survive the onslaught of retribution from the damage they’ve inflicted on the innocent. Oh – the sweet horrific retribution!
    Dead hos by the millions. Sounds about right. Please God – Let my arm swing about the first decapitation. Please God – Let it be me.

  114. angry? i just don’t know why anyone gives a shit about a fucking hollywood movie. same with the fags who cried over American Sniper.

    1. How about Zero Dark Thirty. Hey, let’s make a movie about the mission to kill Obama… AND let’s make the hero a STRONG FEMINIST WOMAN!
      The trailer was hilarious, showing two tough Seals discussion said super woman:
      “Do you trust her?’
      “Yes.”
      “Why”
      CLOSE ON SEAL’S DEEPLY RESPECTFUL EXPRESSION
      “Because of her CONFIDENCE.”
      Never mind the whole goddamned story is fiction.

      1. A woman with confidence is like a terrorist with a bomb vest.
        All she’s going to do is get a lot of people, and herself, killed.
        Men are used to dealing with ‘confident’ people, and know that much of the time that confidence is misplayed. They don’t get erections or place their faith in confidence. Only competence.

  115. “What should struck you is how similar the articles are to each other.
    The media we have is one full of “journalists” who essentially
    plagiarize each other without adding any additional reporting or value.”
    Are we talking #JournoGate here?

    1. Again, you would want to put an A where that last O is there for ‘Journalist’. If you’re plan is to claim superiority, you should likely learn to spell first.

      1. Ah, as in #GamesJournaPros?
        It’s an acronym. The only rule is that it’s pronounceable.

      2. Another new Disqus account just to grace our existence with your sniveling drool? Don’t bother

  116. What should struck you is how similar the articles are to each other.
    The media we have is one full of “journalists” who essentially
    plagiarize each other without adding any additional reporting or value.

    Journolist? I wouldnt be surprised if it was all planned from the top by some central organization.

    1. “What should STRUCK you” – I’m largely struck by your poor grammar.

    2. “Journolist’ HA it’s journalist. But you know, women are stupid, right?

      1. Spell check nazi. I speak and write in a a foreign language. How am I doing so far? You know you can’t say shit about me, right?

      2. Most women are indeed stupid, they never contributed to society as much men do or did or will.

  118. the LoTR also had feminist scenes. The one with the woman posing as a man destroying the witch king. Laughable. Was that in the book? (I don’t read fiction) and in the Hobbit the barrel river scene with the female superpowers elf acrobatics. The thing is. Women action movies always have some unbelievable edge to it. I like tomb raider as a game but the movies are just fcked up. Same with resident evil. These women protagonists look like tryhards, unnatural and above all unfeminine. So I wonder why men won’t boycott this shit.

    1. The scene with the girl killing the lich king was in the book. It is acceptable. Tolkien was a real man, not a SJW faggot. Other scenes were added in the movies to give more screen time to strong female characters.

  119. Ok, saw the movie last night. I thought Aaron Clarey was full of shit, but the man wasnt wrong. I will say Charlize Theron’s character was good and the warrior women later in the movie were pretty good too, but here’s what I took away from Mad Max.
    1. Women are valued, protected and live better lives than anyone else for doing nothing but being a beautiful woman and having reproductive power, and those who are less fortunate must sacrifice to make their lives better.
    2. All men in the movie are either physically or mentally damaged, but the women in the movie are healthy and mentally fine.
    3. The only way for men to be redeemed for their physical and mental problems is to help women, only then are they “good” or “trustworthy”
    4. The injury of a woman, such as a small cut, or the death of a woman is played up as a big dramatic thing, but men are constantly being put in a meat grinder of gruesome high speed death. There is only one time a male’s death is valued and thats when the son of the villain dies prematurely.
    5. Risking harm or sacrificing your life to save a woman who gave you female approval (but no sugar), is a noble thing.
    Still a good, well-made movie.

    3. Good Lord, they should retitle the movie:
      Mad Max: Reasons to Wife up a Pre/Post-Wall Slut with Mental Issues

    4. How realistic are they in portraying the capabilities and mindset of women Charlie Theon included?

      1. Good question. I was quite pleased at the portrayal of the women. they werent kicking ass because they were the heroes and women. They were holding their own based on their knowledge and skills that was congruent with the world. I dont believe at any point a woman was matching or overpowering the strength of a man. When charlize theron had her shots on tom hardy it was when he had a chain on his head and people pulling as well as charlize using her whole body. Though ot was a bit unbelievable the wives knew which guns got which type of ammunition. Later in the movie i dont recall the women fighting and winnong on an even playing field. They always had some sort of balance or weapon or position advantage And that was nice to see. Tom Hardy himself wasnt exactly plowing through guys either.

        2. Charlize’s character was not soft, but she was not some ultra cold tough bitch. She’s smart, knowledgable and experience. She knows what to do in a jam. She was promoted to “Imperator”. To sum her up: “Calculated professional.” It only got gooey when she was wounded.
          Max was multiple levels more badass, but he never had much time to express it.
          Just go see the damn movie

  120. Title: Emasculated Max with a byline: Because Charlize has his balls.
    most of these articles are probably written by 2, maybe 3 “journalists” max. The rest just cut and paste from each other.

  121. I think you should thank those of us that have started an unholy shitstorm at many of these sites, provoking a storm of angry feminist insults and bringing attention to how many people try to shame us into silence.
    Hell, girlwriteswhat showed up at a couple of them.

  122. Hold the phone here a minute, why is anybody replying to the fiminists comments? Don’t they get enough unwarranted validation in their everyday lives without them being allowed into the discussion here, even telling them to fuck off counts as giving them attention, and like all children, any attention is good attention. Keep up the discipline lads, don’t reply to them.

    1. Because they are setting themselves up as targets. Knocking Fisters down is loads of fun. Especially when their replies are basically, “stoopid doody head!”

      1. Yeah fun, but ignoring ’em has a more profound effect, tit for tat they can deal with via their inability to comprehend logic the same way we do, so our logical arguments are pointless to actually effect them, but ignoring them, well that works well in any language, even femisticism

        1. Actually, I tend to disagree. Ignoring a woman makes them strive more to capture your attention. Beating one, however, tends to end their misbehavior.

        3. Physical violence, the best way to solve ANY problem. Good work, good work.

        5. Well if it didn’t work so well all you ladies would not diddle yourself while reading about violent sex scenes in smut books like 50 shades of Grey.

        7. There’s nothing like good old sweeping generalisations to try and win an argument, is there?

        8. We simply no longer support Hollywood. We’re very selective about movie attendance. Why enrich an industry that uses my money to destroy me?

        9. You mean like the sweeping generalizations such as Duke/UVA rape narratives?

        11. Not if those generalizations are true. I can see from your picture that you’ve rubbed the skin raw on your fingure. Why are you such a perverted diddle-monster???

        12. No, you are wrong. It is not the best way to solve ANY problem.
          It is however, the ONLY way to solve SOME problems, and it is always A way to solve problems. but it’s not always the BEST way.
          Leadership means recognizing that different problems have different solutions, but only a fool discards violence for ideological reasons.
          And often, solving a problem quickly with a less than ideal solution is a far better solution that taking too much time to resolve it with the ideal solution.
          If someone is holding a gun on a bunch of hostages, the ideal solution may be to talk him down, but he might kill one or more hostages before you succeed… Shooting him in the head might not be the best solution, but it has a lesser chance of ending a hostage’s life, and it is certainly a definitive solution.
          But any fool that states ‘violence never solved anything’ is living in fantasy land. A dead man (or woman) is no longer a problem.

        13. Clearly you are not well versed in Euphemism, as even an idiot can see that actually physically beating someone down over the internet is impossible.

        14. Good point. You don’t have logical arguments. Well spoken.

  123. Wow. I hope you all continue to enjoy this little circlejerk you got going on here. Lord knows you have nothing better in your lives to participate in

    2. says the troll from huffpo or jezebel. Yes, you left your circle jerk and came to us.

    3. Created a Disqus account just to post that? Loser, I can smell your vessel from here.

    4. Are you outside of your brain right now? Why the mother fuck are you here? Dummy.

  124. You are wasting your time arguing with feminists. They don’t care about truth or logic, their only purpose is to manipulate people into the belief that everything all of you think is shameful because it is different than what feminists think. Feminism is just another religion. Based on beliefs approved by the authority not in facts (i.e. in the European Union laws has been passed to forbid any criticism to feminism), a promised land (matriarchy), fanatism, manichaeism and so on.
    The best course of action is to ignore them. If not possible, basic PUA Game: agree and amplify.

    1. I was once caught masturbating by an HR secretary at my old job about 15 years ago. My only response was “Either get out of here or come help”
      Thank god I have no shame.
      P.S. she helped. and then we both got fired (why the fuck would someone put hidden cameras in a handicapped-only bathroom?) . Greatest story I can never tell my grandkids.

        1. Well, they are in a job that suits their natural proclivities, even if that job is a make-work activity designed to create a dumping ground for quota-mandated personnel.

  125. The basic problem is that people are stupid and they think that movies are real or that television is not scripted. The articles about Fury Road got me thinking about my favourite TV series that I follow: Person of Interest, Vikings and Game of Thrones. The stories are good, and the action is great.
    .
    In the first, the two female leads (one of whom has been absent for several episodes) are skinny little things who absolutely kick ass. In the second, the ex-wife of the protagonist is a shield maiden who can cut a swath through a formation of male soldiers (granted, we are talking French guys, but whatever). In the third there are only two females out of a cast of thousands – Brienne and Arya – but now they have introduced the Sand Snakes, a quartet of bastard daughters who appear to be rather dangerous but it remains to be seen.
    .
    It’s all in good fun for a story but if you want the reality then talk to a women’s MMA champion. The honest ones admit that even in the same weight class against a mediocre opponent, they can’t beat a man, certainly not with any consistency if at all.

    1. The basic problem is people are stupid enough to give weight to propaganda.

  126. Just read the CNN piece if you didn’t yet. It’s hilarious. They’re stuck on the author not watching the movie.. Why would someone who knows from the get go it’s a feminist movie waste his time to do so? CNN’s own logic escapes CNN… I’m not gonna even comment on their MRA confusion.
    We made it all the way to the top of the entertainment section in the bastion of the menstrual media.. Now, that’s something.. They’re starting to take notice, and that’s a good thing. Link below.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/15/entertainment/mad-max-fury-road-boycott-mens-rights-thr-feat/index.html

    1. “Whilst swimming in a lake of menstrual blood, CNN bravely tries to explain why Marxists and and Monarchists are exactly the same thing…”

  127. when doing a google search, the orginal ROK article was buried beneath several articles which condemned it. hilarious. everything is just so… puss.

  128. Wow, how did I miss all this drama? I need to come here more often. Few things are as entertaining when I’m taking a break at work as reading about an intense Internet war.

  129. I dont understand. Why a boycott? Doesn’t capitalism pretty much mean that an unpopular film that no-one likes will tank at the box office?

  130. LOL I CAN SMELL THE BUTTHURT OOZING FROM THIS ARTICLES AUTHOR ALL THE WAY FROM OVER HERE ROFL ITS MAD PUNGENT

    1. Another brand new account, to drool with caps no less. Mangina or Va JJ?

        2. Please return to Yahoo Ooze or HuffPuff or where-ever you cyber fluid share.

        3. LOL BRUH SORRY MAYBE IF U KEEP READING THIS WABSITE YOULL LEARN ONE SIMPLE TRICK TO FINALLY GET A HUMAN TO TOUCH YOUR PEEN

        6. LOL WHORE!!!1! GOOD EFFORT BRUH I CAN TELL U TRIED UR HARDEST THEIR KEEP IT UP YOULL GET COMPETENT AT IT ONE DAY

        7. I got $2 and can of Dr. Pepper that should be more than enough for you and your moms…

  131. Those SJW are really starting to fear us, they are afraid: Anti-femisnim is becoming a global phenomenom. It’s 2 AM in Argentina right now. Roosh: You’ve given me the first joy of the saturday.

    1. Yeah, and anti-feminism is strong even among people with liberal views. Nearly everyone hates them.

    1. Please, in the future, warn us if you are posting to a bogus, fake news link. I hate that “The Young Turks”(?) have gotten credit for my viewing their crappy story. I’m not saying don’t post. But warn us who the link is to. TYTs are Mangina Central.

    2. The Young Turks have been failing so hard the last couple years. This video has more down votes than up votes. The massive down voting has been a trend on a lot of their videos the past year or 2. A lot of people are starting to see their bullshit.

  134. Job well done roosh, why are they mad we are boycotting a male hatred film? I don’t know nor do I care. Arguing with women and manginas is useless as putin points out. They respond not to logic hence when asked questions by themm simply insult them, Why are we boycotting mad max, I am boycotting it because of feminist. And any other quesiton asked will be responded by your fat, lose weight, dresss nicer and lose the yoga pants.

    1. It’s not about arguing with them, it’s about using their vitriol as a springboard to put out logical and concise arguments that will sway ambivalent spectators disgusted by the lies, propaganda, personal insults, and logical fallacies that they spew as ‘retorts’

      1. Would you argue with a dog or a monkey? Of course not. You’d just laugh at it or conk it on the head with a news paper. with women, you can’t do that so you just give them a verbal smack down. Logic is only in the male sphere. Women can’t understand it and even when they do they typically troll you and push back in the same manner a child would. This is why men had the phrase, putting my foot down in the past, although it is hardly used today. Men never use to “Argue” with their wives, they’d have a discussion and knowing the women would troll them and say dumb shit just to get a reaction out the man, because women’s hamsters spin from arguing with men, the man would put his foot down and say that is that nothing else too it. Men can debate each other. Not women or dogs or irrational beings.
        Take why we are boycotting mad max for being anti-man. You can’t explain this to a feminist sjw. They will just put their own spin and anything you say will be patriarchy. There is no point in trying to sway by-standers because most of them are manginas. The only way men become red pill is by discovering it on their own. Every red piller has his real red pill wake up moment. Whether it is the 5th chick in a row leaving you for a guy in a hoody or a guy with 10 tatoos on his head and a motorocycle, as much as we like we can’t do it for them.

        1. I tend to disagree, as it was exactly this sort of exposure that helped me become red pill.
          I know it’s anecdotal, but I probably wouldn’t be a neoreactionary if I hadn’t noted the indisputably logical (and easily verified) points of other men arrayed against the vitriolic and unverifiable emotionalism of Social Justice Warriors.

  135. The mainstream media comments read like Ellsworth Toohey articles from Ayn Rand’s “The Fountainhead.” The fact that they now only reply with childlike neener-neener retorts, without even trying to show any kind of logic shows that the non-sense started in the 1960s has just about run it’s course. They don’t even try to make political sense anymore. Only affected “liberals” with childhood issues can read the MSM drivel and not get disgusted at this point.

    1. Well, that and well-paid minorities who know quite well which side of their bread is buttered.

        1. I was actually thinking butter with a touch of chili and lime, and perhaps I should have said ‘what side their fried chicken is buttered on’.
          People support an ideology that claims they are superior or oppressed, regardless of any physical proof around them.

      1. Now they are acting so childish and reactionary they are really hurting their “cause.” I think a large majority of female feminists will wake up and throw off the bull sh!t in due time. Once they internalize the fact that red-pill truth and living makes their own lives more fulfilling they will flip-flop on cue. It will be the pathetic bitchy male feminists that hold out the longest. The Keith Olberman types. The jealousy and inferiority complexes they have developed since early childhood will be tough to shake. Their entire lives and personas are built around being bitter haters of capable men, ie, Tom Brady, etc.

    3. That’s how you can tell that feminism has about run its course. They only have these types of responses to it…the power and control is starting to slip away.

      1. The tactical stupidity of the lefty MSM and feminists bloggers is also staggering. Thousands more men (and normal functioning women) have read Clarey’s article and been exposed to natural, healthy ideas than would have ever been if the leftoids would have just ignored it. By blabbering on in a clearly childish manner they have only put a spotlight on the truth and sensibility of his post and other Manosphere facts. It seems they just can’t help themselves and must play neener-neener when something bothers them, even if doing so only strengthens their opposition. That is their biggest weakness (among many)can; anything gets under their skin. You can give them a splinter with wet paper.

  136. What’s odd is all of these articles seem to believe we’re MRAs who believe in equality
    There must be like no more than a dozen MRAs on the internet, all concentrated at Paul Elam’s site. Is “MRA” just a catch-all phrase for whatever intimidates feminists?
    That just tells us that anti-feminism needs to get more radical

    1. No kidding. They need to head over to Paul’s site if they want to find ‘authentic’ MRA’s.
      We don’t want equality, we just want our hands untied for five seconds.

  137. And by the way, I’m not sure why that particular article got so much attention, but something can be learned from this
    Is it possible that criticizing feminist elements in popular culture drives them nuts? After all, America is the land of entertainment first. It’s the news about movies that grab readers
    If so, criticism of popular media should be done more frequently on this site

    1. This one took a hit so hard because it was right in your face….how could we not criticize it. Women have had plenty of lead roles as their own “bad ass” characters in them (too many to list – plus many TV series).
      They are, now, trying to hijack a franchise with the name “Mad Max” in it – clearly about a lone guy surviving (and being a bad ass) in a post apocalypse world.
      Ridiculous? How about:
      Batman is out starring Catwoman as the main character. Then why not call it “Catwoman” and be done with it.

    2. Popular culture is the only thing these vapid, empty-headed narcissist feminists know anything about, so it’s the only articles here that get their panties in a knot. The moment we get an article about history or philosophy or classic literature, it goes completely over their heads & there are no women or white knights commenting.

  138. In defense of MAD MAX: FURY ROAD.
    The movie does have an overriding matriarchal theme, which is VERY obvious and an interesting development in Miller’s examination of the post-apocalypse. But addressing the criticism, in the film the women (besides Theron’s Furiosa, who is portrayed as distinctly masculine) are dispatched very quickly when put in physical confrontations.
    The story shows them as crack shots with a firearm, but beyond that they fold like card tables as soon as it gets physical.
    Even in the first fight between Max and Furiosa, Max is shown as seriously debilitated by chained hands and his face mask. But he still gets the better of her in the end.
    I loved the movie. Furiosa is a legit badass since she is portrayed as half a man without an ounce of femininity. The old broads and young, long-haired Megan Gale do their best but are easily dispatched.

  139. OK I’ll put the cat among the pigeons here and name four badass women from history – Boudicca, Grace Darling, Anne Bonney, Mary Read.. Bonney and Read were the last to be overcome when the authorities captured Calico Jack Rackham’s pirate ship.

    2. Boudicca was a complete case of ‘female empowerment by men’, Anne Bonney and Mary read were criminals that required Rackham to keep them from being subdued by their crews (Not to mention Bonney was hanged the first time she tried her hand at Piracy) and Grace Darling, while noble enough, did what amounted to holding a paddle in the water for about an hour, essentially murdering her two young children in the process.
      Nobody has ever claimed that women were not good at being elevated by men, getting hanged, hiding behind a man, holding a paddle, or murdering their offspring.

      1. About the standard of knowledge to be expected of a Manospherian (not American are you by any chance) – Darling didn’t kill anyone and was childless, the storm had already killed two kids on the ship Darling helped rescue their mother from, there is no record of Bonney’s fate or execution, and I’ll throw another badass female name at you: Phoebe Hessel (1713 – 1821.)

        1. Might as well start mentioning Red Sonja or Lara Croft.
          Excuse me, you are boring me.

        2. I’m mentioning real women, not somebody’s fantasies. Can’t you handle it, old chap ?

        3. Not at all, I am simply tired of spending a few minutes researching each and every bullshit name you post to find out why and how you are wrong.
          At least mention someone FUN to discredit, like Kristen Gilbert, who had a ‘catchy’ handle, ‘The angel of death’. She may not have been a badass, but she nearly killed a dozen people by injecting their bags with Epinephrine and then attempting to resuscitate them so she could bask in the glory of being called a ‘hero’. Only actually murdered 3, though… so either she was really successful 7 times or she was an utter failure 3 times… depending on how you look at it.

        4. I shot down at least two of your discreditations. Congrats for digging up a serial killer though. However I prefer to dwell on heroes and heroines. Here’s another one, Barbara Jane Harrison GC, (1945 -1968) died at her post while trying to evacuate the last few passengers from a burning airliner, having ensured the rest got off safely.

        5. Dying because you refuse to move your ass makes you a ‘badass’?
          What about that sniper chick in Nam? I heard she put down nearly a dozen marines before they blew her brains through her nose. That’s a LOT closer to a ‘badass’.
          Of course, each and every one of those marines could have greatly exceeded her record had they been in her position, but I assume you don’t consider that relevant.
          What you refer to as ‘badass’ is what almost any man would have done… and thousands, tens of thousands, of men HAVE done, often losing their lives, and even more often without any sort of recognition.
          That a very very few women managed to, for a very short period, ALMOST equal the performance of your ‘average’ man does not a badass make.

        6. So you are American ? Harrison wasn’t awarded the GC for ‘not moving her arse’ – she was actively rescuing survivors in the midst of a rapidly spreading airliner fire. ‘Badass’ for me is a synonym for ‘tough and brave.’ I notice you haven’t named said sniper.

        7. Each and every british man that, despite a hail of machine gun fire, a trench full of blood, feces, and body parts of their companions, and pieces of themselves frozen and rotting off, still managed to go ‘over the top’ into guaranteed suicide is a greater badass than any woman you could care to name.
          I didn’t mention her name because frankly I couldn’t give a fuck. an almost-man is not worth noting.

        8. “However I prefer to dwell on heroes and heroines.”
          Umm… weren’t two of the first people you mentioned Anne Bonny and Mary Read?

        9. Therein we have a disagreement old chap. Now I’ll bring up Noor Inayat Khan GC (1914 – 1944,) deep penetration operative with SOE.

        10. “Therein we have a disagreement old chap.”
          I was just about ready to say that ‘that’s because you are a faggot and a coward that wouldn’t know bravery if it bit you on the dick” but then I realized that, while certainly accurate, it would be highly uncivilized.
          I myself have spent a lot longer than two years in a combat zone where I woudl be killed in a heartbeat. I have sent Radio messages while getting shot at by enemy troops. And shot back. and took two bullets in my leg, and continued shooting back. I don’t consider myself any kind of particular badass for doing that, I was simply doing my job.
          What makes her so special that she is a ‘badass’ for doing something similar, only hiding in a hole until she gets caught? because, for only a moment, she came somewhat close to approaching a ‘normal job moment’ for every male military member in existence?

        11. Congratulations on surviving trying experiences. The disfiguring beatings I’ve taken from street gangs and getting married in a war zone don’t quite match your score, but I don’t let it rule my life – Victim Support can eat my shorts old fellow. But your experiences don’t excuse your knuckle dragging attitude to women or to your view of whether I can recognize courage. The women I’ve been bringing to your attention prove that I can. Harrison and Khan were awarded the GC for brave acts, not for being women. If you can’t handle that, you need to take a long, hard look at yourself.

        12. It’s not a matter of not being able to ‘handle that’, it’s a matter of your trying to convince me that these women were somehow proof that a girl is not laughable as a ‘beefy male ass’-kicking ‘badass’. Do you actually understand what the term means?

        13. why did you take a disfiguring beating from a street gang? were your legs broken? did you somehow ‘accidentally’ wander into an area where you didn’t belong?

        14. Don’t forget Elizabeth Bathory. she would be the first recorded serial killer andoing may have killed anywhere between 300 and 600 girls. .. and a whole town in the UK that decused they liked the pow’s better than their husbands once they returned home so their killed most of a village with arsenic over several months.

        15. I would consider Temujin the first recorded serial killer. He supposedly singlehandedly beheaded over a thousand men, women, and children.
          The tales of Elizabeth Bathory have been… slightly exaggerated, I think, but they are certainly possible.

        16. But did he have a signature? Victimology is usually part of that signature.

        17. Since he didn’t expand on his story and as he seems to be British, I created a totally created a perfectly reasonable background story in my head involving the Kray twins and aChelsea smile with a side trip to Broadmoor. Clearly, four cups of tea really is too many.

        18. As a noble, it would have taken quite a lot at the time for them be willing to imprison Her. that’s no way to know, but she certainly had a signature.

    4. You must be lost….this isn’t the history channel and we weren’t questioning “badass” women in history.
      There are plenty of women to be admired throughout history. There are plenty of women who have been “accepted” as badass women in movies.
      Stop “changing the channel” or deflecting…that’s what women do when they are losing a debate.

  140. I’m probably going to regret this, but what the hell. Guys – they are NOT angry with you. They are laughing at you. A totally rational response to your ludicrous article.

      1. In his natural environment. Watch the way his brilliantly-colored chest swells as he cries his mating call. Obviously, since he’s an inferior specimen, no females will respond to his attempt to impress them, and his carefully assembled nest will be wasted.
        Oh wait… in the brush! There’s a female of his species…. will she respond to his… oh wait, never mind, that large black woodpecker knocked her on her back and now she’s eagerly accepting his thrusts… too bad for the poor, crested white knight.
        BTW- Am I the only one that’s thoroughly sick of seeing that ‘death with a kitten’ Avatar all over the goddamned place?

    2. women “laugh” at things when they’re intimidated by it, it’s a natural response

    3. After watching the movie yesterday, I have to say that the article was far from ludicrous. It was almost spot on.

      1. ssshhhh…. We don’t use logic with these people, it’s considered ‘abuse’

  141. The problem is that indulging ‘first world problems’ always causes third world problems.
    a girl wakes up with buyer’s remorse… screams ‘rape’ because she feels like she wasn’t given enough opportunities after last night’s binge to say ‘no’. first world problem.
    Boy goes to jail, where, for the next 5 years, he is fighting for his life and avoiding getting anally raped to death by big gigantic niggers with dicks the size of telephone poles. (real problem)
    Some girl is upset about a guy making a joke she find offensive (first world problem) she gets the guy fired, where he is looking at a very real possibility of him or his wife and kids starving, losing their home, their transportation, or even freezing to death (Third world problem)
    Guy practices his first amendment right to refuse to serve faggots, which ‘offends’ them. Loses his business, his livelihood, and eventually his home and future (see offending feminists above)
    We really need to stop indulging these fruitcakes. If you ‘offend’ someone, you really need to track them down and put them in the ground… it’s what they would do to you.

    1. Hey Brigadon. I actually like they way you think, despite our past disagreements.This makes all the sense in the world.

      1. Most of the problems you and I have had in the past stem from the fact that over time I have simply lost patience. Maybe it’s burnout, maybe it’s a form of psychological ptsd, but over the years I have lost all interest in ‘converting’ or ‘fixing’ people that are so badly damaged that they believe socialist tripe.
        Sometimes I am just like.. “Fuck it. put the blacks back in chains so they stop killing people. enslave the women, burn the fucking jews, shoot the faggots and trannies, blow up the muslims, starve the wetbacks, shoot anyone that hires them illegally. I don’t care about the atheists, but if they breath one word against the christians, break a toe. Maybe they’ll learn to shut the fuck up. And the Christians? Fuck them too. God damn it, I am tired of dealing with their bullshit, jew worship, and antagonism. I catch any one of you bitches talking shit against colonialism again and your ass goes on the gibbet with the rest. I am pulling this damn car over and the whole country is going home.”
        It’s not all the time, but every once in a while SJW fatigue steps in.

        1. Indeed, frustration over a lengthy period of time can breed impatience. Individuals can only change themselves. Our job is in pointing the way. Whether or not they wish to tread that path is entirely their choice. Unfortunately, most individuals appear to lack the courage and humility to challenge what whatever current culture they were indoctrinated into.

        2. Hey man…it’s a long road. You’re going to have to learn patience (it may be the only way that you’ll get through to some people). If you can’t, then don’t worry about it. I used to be that way (in my younger years) but I found patience.
          You’ll get there, man. Sometimes you just have to take a step back (walk away for a bit). We’re not going to be able to sway everyone to our way of thinking…we can only show them some truth. It’s up to them to accept it (or not).

        3. There’s a difference between the impatience of youth and the impatience born of constantly repeating the same thing a million different ways to people who just…don’t…get it.
          I have been doing this for 15 years. Maybe it’s time to take a vacation. Take my girls to someplace relatively sane… got any suggestions of places that still have decent values, nice scenery, and amiable people? (not neccessarily one of roosh’s ‘pick up heavens’) I went around the world several times in my youth, but things have changed enormously… The last time I visited Dubai, for example, it was two dirt roads crossing with a dive bar in the middle and nothing more.

        4. I got you..impatience (with a little frustration). Yeah, like I said I pretty much would just mention things and then let them fall wherever. It’s pretty fucking tiring repeating yourself (that’s when I would take a break). Things have changed. The last time I was in Germany (W. Germany) the wall was still up. I’ve back to Europe since (just not back to Germany). Things change but some of those values should stay the same.

        5. Yeah, I spent a lot of time in Germany but haven’t been there since the wall came down. I have a sneaking suspicion that culturally it’s becoming much like sweden.

    2. women are too selfish to understand these things.
      for them…..its all about ME….ME…..ME

  142. The article/proclamation published about this episode of feminist cuntrage over at avfm is just hilarious.

    1. Well, at least at AVFM the claims of ‘MRA Outrage’ are slightly more founded.
      My rage is more akin to ‘nerdrage’ at the idea of a 110 pound hotty beating 250 pound professional warriors and ‘Mad Max’ himself being shoved into the background in order to push the movie into ‘chick flick revenge porn’.
      I haven’t read AVFM since Paul flew into a sputtering Rant full of hand-flapping indiocy and banhammering when I pointed out that only an incredible pussy would think that some 5’5″ 108lb dude with a closed boxcutter (during the ‘avfm toronto poster takedown incident’ ) was ‘a thug threatening me with a deadly weapon’
      I was very glad I had ditched them when he went all commie M(h)RA.

      1. The only real way she could have beat him would be if he had pounded her crazy, ‘cuz then he’d a-sunk into the happy slumber reaped from a healthy pussy-pounding..

        1. ‘Dude’ means ‘male’ in Amerika.
          Of course, considering it’s Paul Elam, the results would probably be the same.

  143. Let the anger flow through you, media. With each passing mention of ROK you make yourself more our servants.

  144. Apparently Mad Max will make 40 millions at the box-office this weekend. This is pretty bad for a 200$ million budget movie. This is a box-office bomb! LOL! I hope you will make an article to laugh about it when the numbers are released.

  145. And who wins in the end? ROK does. Why? Because the movie is a box-office bomb. So people decided to not watch it and the producers are losing millions. Laugh at men all you want, but you can’t force us to go to cinemas to watch a movie.

    1. I never intended to watch it even though I loved the original mad max movies. I just have had all the reboots that I’m willing to participate in.

  146. Putting feminist propaganda in a movie that only men want to watch is a terrible idea. The movie is a box-office flop.

  147. Thanks for saving me money and more importantly saving my time. No interest in watching some Hollywood mangina show us Girl Power. I can take Charlie’s Angels because they are hot with big ti*s. Helps me ignore that a women could never fight a man straight up.

    1. Same…and agree. But, you went to the movie and you knew it was about Charlie’s Angels (three women).
      It wasn’t called Charlie’s Angels with Charlie as the main character with the three women as “side dishes” driving Charlie around town.

  148. I don’t know how any red pill man can stand to watch Vice. I used to like it too, edgy videos were interesting but it’s turned into a SJW shitshow.

  149. This point (and article) is another example of how the MSM works. They don’t ever report on ROK with their positive articles talking about how men should improve, better careers, school, workout, eat better, live better lives, etc….
    It’s only the “hate” stuff such as seen by them (this article or subject) or reported on by the SJWs. It’s all about the ratings and nothing else.

    1. Just like everything else, MSM needs a major filter or they’ll have you believing everything not of your group, which they hope is liberal, is evil and determined to destroy the values you hold dear.

      1. It’s the very reason why I can’t watch the news any longer. It’s become too much of an “entertainment show” and it really does steer a certain narrative in a certain direction (reminds me too much of communist China or the former Soviet Union) – state TV – only undercover.
        SJWs remind me of how neighbors in the former Soviet Union used to turn each other in to the KGB.

    2. Note too that the mainstream media articles are nearly as childishly written as the feminist/white knight comments in the ROK article; basically all variations on “you’ve got a small dick!” I’m not sure if that should hearten me or depress me at this point.

      1. It’s because…that’s all they have…deflect, deflect, deflect. The points are valid (with equality) and it hurts (the truth). It’s all about power and control, now.

    3. I’m going to be honest… I’d wad a bit shocking when I first started reading. I didn’t even realize a men’s right group existed. However, in between the descriptions murder and selling women into slavery after the apocalypse, I found I understood. The penis postalking were also confusing. I mean, is having a small penis the absolute worst thing that can happen? Wouldn’t it be worse to not have one at all? Plus, I have a family member who is a CeO of an extremely large company. He’s also a raging bigot to the point that I can’t stand to be in the same room as him. So clearly, money, position, and power have no reflection on how ignorant you are. I don’t see why penis size would be automatically connected to this group. ..

      1. Penis size is the “nuclear option” that women used when there is nothing left to debate (that’s how you know you’ve won a debate before it’s even started).
        A confident man will just laugh at this accusation so it really carries no weight with many men. Women just don’t understand that when they use that statement…they’ve shown their cards (they’ve lost).

        1. It’s rather ridiculous. Plus, I’ve known some guys with small dicks who were still good in bed, successful, and generally well rounded. After I made my initial post, I realized that you guys wanted to be heard. As in also somewhat of an odd ball as a strong woman, I sort of wanted to be heard too. The point of a debate isn’t to force a person into changing a long held belief. The point is to give the person, (and especially the audience) perspective. Even if the other party destroys every argument, if you leave them with something to consider, it was a good debate. Also, I could argue wit a brick wall and often engage the turtles when I don’t have an outlet. .. it’s not a debate if I have to sink to calling you names and making comments about your penis (which, is nothing else, I have no evidence to support )

        2. and as you can see…many on here are not against women being “strong” or a strong woman. It’s the bullshit that we’ve heard for years that women “don’t need a man” because they are “strong and independent”.
          I date multiple women (some stronger than others)…it’s not a problem. They just know that men and women compliment each other…a very basic concept that our society is sorely missing today. It’s not about equality….equality has been there…it’s about complimenting. If I wanted a woman (who wants to be a man) then why wouldn’t I just date another man?
          Now you know…we’re not crazy here. If anything, many here have their shit together and make solid arguments.

        3. I don’t need a man, but I rather like having them around, and I don’t see it as a bad thing.

        5. And I respect your right to an opinion, but your argument needs work. After all, “sounding like a slut’ when you’ve actually never heard me speak isn’t exactly supportive to your claim.

        6. Girl: you must have a small penis.
          Me: Come back and talk to me when your boobs come out.
          The best way to end any debate with a women.
          Call her SLUT,WHORE ,FAT ,UGLY
          or all of the above.
          UGLY AND FAT is the nuclear bomb they can’t handle

        7. Trust me, you can buy boobs and overcome that argument. I guess that leaves the question of whether one can buy penis. …

        8. Which leads to a more telling argument… a strong woman wouldn’t limit her definition of herself to what a stranger said on the Internet. I’ve been on and off this page since yesterday evening Actively participating in conversation. I have yet to get angry, call names, describe someone’s penis as small….

        9. there is difference when called ugly or fat on internet vs being called in real life (93% is subcommunicated) plus not to forget humiliation in fronta real ppl.
          it works the best on so called “strong women”

        10. I just don’t think it would get much of a ruse outhink out of me. I might ask you to vacate my front garden, and I probably wouldn’t askin you in for tea.

        11. i ain’t talking about a hypothetical scenario.
          I am just casually dropping my results.
          which you have no clue about.
          GO BACK TO JEZEBEL BITCH

        12. That’s not likely to work either.
          Things are to interesting over here, and I’m still pretty entranced by this new perspective but don’t let that discourage you.

        13. You’ve been a pretty great sport here in this comments section. If we were at a bar, club or something, I would forgo my evil, misogynist, neomasculine ROK ways and buy you a drink.

        14. I would accept graciously, and I appreciate it. I get that you guys are passed. I didn’t, but after last night, I see it. In fact, none of the girls that initially commented when a friend shared this page had any idea. We didn’t know there was even such a concept as a men’s rights movement, and a lot of assumptions followed. I am just eternally curious… That’s how you got stuck with me, and I actually don’t want my husband to have to feel like this. So, if you want to call me names, have at it.

        15. ROK isn’t even really a men’s rights site. MRAs are typically all about the fight against the system (mostly government institutions, academia, etc.) They’re the ones who are at the forefront trying to tackle things like the court systems, education, divorce, men’s health, and all that.
          ROK started out being more about things having to do with pick up artistry. It sort of transformed into part of what is known as the “manosphere.” Has a lot more to do with individuality, self-improvement, our culture, and things of that nature.
          All the outlets immediately calling Clarey and ROK MRAs is just a big smear job. You are, however, bound to run into some lunatics who do genuinely just hate women and are stereotypes from time to time. But I think you’re smart enough to use your own judgement and figure a lot of these things out.

        16. Thank you. I guess it lucky that I did that internship with the juvenile justice department. Nothing prepares you for the random quirkiness of stangers like ten years that literally scare the crap or of you and have none of the self control to not climb a all and attempt to set someone on fire because you don’t like their favorite ice cream. I’m pretty hard to offend. I’m sure that will eventually become a challenge though.

        17. Sounds like you’re someone who has actually had to live in and deal with reality. You’re far better off than a lot of people these days who need “safe spaces” and trigger warnings for everything.

        18. I really hope that want reality. My last assessment was a ten year old with three convictions for child molestation. He was so good at spotting that one kid who would never tell.. The perfect victim, that we had to house him with the adults.my recommendation was that he never be released because he posed a very real risk to anyone he would come in contact with…. For a child. That kid scared the hell out of me. Having said that, life doesn’t have any safe spaces, and it certainly doesn’t provide trigger warnings. If you have any real expectation of making it through unscathed, you learn that safe places tend to offer far fewer escape routes.

        19. What I mean by reality is that you’ve worked, and learned how to deal with different types of people. I can’t imagine a lot of people coming up now dealing with any of that without ending up in a psych ward the rest of their lives.

        20. I think may people are surprised by their own capacity to handle completely unreasonable situations provided they have no plan and no other choice. I have a theory that a portion of “brave” acts were undertaken because the person didn’t have enough time to fully grasp their situation. Even I don’t know how my my pay minute contingency plans didn’t blow up in my face. Mostly, I just choose to wing it until I can get a better assessment of how risky all of my idea are going to be. Then, I chose the most unreasonable one and hope for the best.

        21. hey here’s another perspective for you…..SUCK MY DICK….i’LL PAY YOU IF YOUR ANY GOOD

        22. and you’re finding out, today, that many men don’t need a woman (but having one around is a nice as well). The two compliment each other.

        23. We have plenty of regulars on here and I think you’d be able to pick out which ones are the regulars (some here are trolls trying to discredit ROKs work).
          You have to ignore some of these fuckers. I’m used to it as well because I’ve commented on XoJane, Jezebel and other sites in the past (until they banned me). They banned me for trying to bring up good debate with certain questions (didn’t troll, no foul language, etc..). I didn’t fit the mold in their echo chamber so I was banned (for asking legit questions).

        24. Yikes. Predators like him need to be culled. But such serious offences need to be proven beyond doubt. We have had too many false accusations getting people killed or committing suicide or having their lives ruined as a result.

        25. There should be very real consequences for false accusations. Even if they are simply made in ignorance, the accused is victimized. The accusation alone is enough to be fired. It impacts the way your family is treated , the way the community responds to you… Some people never recover.

        26. Oddly enough, I’m not well appreciated on Jezebel either asking with several others.. The problem is that people think debating is supposed to have a winner… That someone should disavow his beliefs and admit the other party was entirely correct… Otherwise, they are “offended”. A differing opinion isn’t offensive unless your belief is so shaky that just hearing an opposing argument would destroy it. In that case, it’s for your own good. If your argument forces me to question my opinion, I’ve bettered myself by listening. If it doesn’t, I now understand the stances better.

        28. My mother told me that practice makes perfect, so sadly, I’m well out of your price range, and I can put my legs behind my head.

        29. Agreed. I think the most just way to punish false accusation is to reverse the penalty for the crime that he is accusing the other person of onto himself.
          It is in my opinion a crime on par of committing the offence himself

        30. You will find that won’t stand under American Criminal Law. However, I believe Civil Law could be used to do exactly that. I don’t know why more people don’t investigate it.

      2. If it’s not long, I like it to scrap the hell out of the sides.
        If size doesn’t matter why are there no 4 inch dildoes?

        1. I won’t go so far as to say it doesn’t matter, but I think it also depends on the Vagina.

        2. If size doesn’t matter why are there no 4 inch dildoes?
          Damn, girl, you hit hard. Fantastic observation.

        3. It’s from my few fridge magnets that I have. My sister came over with the kids and my young niece asked, “mommy what’s a dildoe?”. Can’t remember the answer but I enjoyed the moment.

    4. I’m kind of surprised that they didn’t make a big deal out of the Jewish Intellectualism post.

      1. there could be a connexion between that post and the fact that a subsequent one went viral. It may have piqued some interest amongst mainstream journos who nonetheless didn’t want to take up that issue

        1. Good point…I didn’t think of that.
          I was also wondering why that one didn’t catch more heat.

      2. too many people would have agreed with it if it went viral, the jews don’t want that

      3. Well if you’re of the bent that it is a jew controlled media, then it maybe that they were too clever to bring extra attention and potential readership to this site for that. You know along the whole P T Barnum axiom, Good news, bad news, doesn’t matter, just spell my name right. Whereas the SJW movement isn’t bright enough to see the fact that what in effect they have done is pour tons of free publicity to ROK and possibly open up that many more to the “redpill”, possibly that much sooner.

      4. The left is gradually becoming more anti-semitcic so they probably don’t care. Check out ‘queers for Palestine’

  150. Put an actress in a harness and fling her around using cables, pulleys, and electric motors. Stage a fight between her and a bunch of big dudes in slow motion, and have her win decidedly. Speed up the track. Drown everything in CGI. Add a dramatic music score. Voila, “girl power.” It’s as fake as a rubber dog turd, and just about as tasteful.

    1. Everything you just said could describe half of Neos fights in the Matrix.

      2. Considering their physical achievements existed within the confines of a computer-generated world where the laws of physics can be bent or broken (in the words of Morpheus) the type of action in that particular film is logical. Outside of it however, it is merely amusing unless the character is endowed with some type of super powers.

  151. It was a great movie. Don’t know why it bothers so many people here that a movie would have a female protagonist. Man up.

    1. A film having a female protagonist is not the issue. There are a number of quality films in film history with this trait. A personal favorite is the 1941 film The Little Foxes. In my opinion, this was one of Betty Davis’ best performances.
      Laurence Olivier and Betty Davis are two of my personal favorite acting performers. Ms. Davis could play a villain or heroine with equal grace.
      As an aside my personal favorite of Olivier’s films is Sleuth (1972).

      1. What’s the issue then? This website’s ethos is “women are not the physical or mental equivalent of men” not sure I can see that there is any other issue then “oh my god, a woman is a hero”.

        1. Not “a woman is a hero” rather, “they put a woman in a former male hero role”. Do you not see the difference?
          What if tomorrow we remade “The Color Purple” with blonde haired, blue eyed women? How about making the movie Roots about blonde haired, blue eyed, tall Nordic men and women? Steel Magnolias with several Larry The Cable Guy replacements?
          You down with that? (granted, I am, it would be grade A humor, but we’re not looking at comedy here are we?)

        2. Yeah, I’d love to see the comments on those movies (the remakes). Women (SJWs) would be up in arms if that happened.

        4. Moron…Mad Max…isn’t…a…remake…its….the…4th….installment…
          And I’m guessing you’ll be pissed off at the feminism in Beyond Thunderdome. Wait you didn’t know?

  152. You guys are going to really hate it when Star Wars centres around a female Skywalker. LOL.

    2. Question: Why should it?
      Is your agenda that frail, that weak, that it cannot create its own storyline?
      What purpose do you have here, precisely?

      1. and that’s the real question here. Why not create the movie around a woman as the lead and have her own movie? Plenty of movies have come out (Tomb Raider being one) with a female lead.
        It’s time to “hijack” the male roles and the good movies (series) because these types of movies (where women are the leads) take second place – that’s why.

  153. I’m going to watch Mad Max:Fury Road because i’m not a insecure male like Roosh and Aaron. What is the problem with having a strong female lead in a action flick? Real men wouldn’t care as long as the movie is good.

    1. It’s a great movie. This moron espouses some gobbly goop about how women are not the physical or mental equivalent of men, yet the leader of Germany, the nation with perhaps the strongest economy in the world, just so happens to be a woman. He can’t back up his facts with real world examples, so he hates. This dude needs to find love.

        1. No, I live in a town where there are quite a few men who believe this. There will always be humans who can’t cope with the real world and need to live in a fantasy world.

        2. “There will always be humans who can’t cope with the real world and need to live in a fantasy world.”
          This is what feminist Hollywood banks on.

        5. Indeed. Their accusations are quite ironic.
          It is rather amusing to see individuals accuse those who are not interested in what is essentially political proselytizing as living in a fantasy world despite their vehement defense of a Hollywood-generated GI Jane. Perhaps they are not aware that Hollywood makes a substantial income off of films, which by definition, are fantasy; fiction.

        6. A 115 lbs woman out in the desert beating up multiple men of 220 lbs is definitely fantasy fiction. Clean, model type women in the middle of a post nuclear war world is definitely fantasy fiction.
          Mad Max driving around a woman in the movie Mad Max…that’s definitely fantasy fiction.

        7. The point is that, in which the particular film that is currently being discussed, is attempting to preach (i.e., political proselytizing) under the guise of entertainment. Film makers who utilize their films as a platform for left-political proselytizing I generally avoid. How others choose to spend their income however, is a choice they must make.

        8. Yep, agree. And here is the problem. Many on this site have chosen not to attend that movie for that very reason. It has too many underlying messages about our society that are pretty obvious (to us, anyways).
          People (especially women) don’t like the fact that we’ve pointed out these messages because it paints an ugly picture. It continues to show how men are bad (even the main character, Max, is chained up throughout the film when not playing sidekick) while the good women (and hero) all are pure as snow (and on the side of righteousness). How I spend my money is my business (women should be used to that phrase by now).

        9. There appears to be a considerable number of white knights who have joined the conversation, although via endless ad-hominems. Logical responses have thus far been absent from the ones I have read.
          What is quite bizarre is why Aaron Clarey’s article went viral. While he is known in parts of the so-called manosphere he is not exactly a well known celebrity. Yet, the Left-media felt the need to tackle his article, inadvertently giving him and ROK a considerable amount of publicity. Strange.

        10. I think I mentioned before how sad it was for CNN to pick up on this story but not the many stories that ROK produces talking about men with subjects ranging from self improvement, health, etc…. They always want to pick up on the garbage (usually entertainment nonsense) for their ratings. It’s the very reason I can’t take the news seriously any longer. They only care about the ratings (and they’ll get them by any means necessary).

        11. Perfectly understandable. I cannot recall the last time I used television for the purpose of obtaining news. In my opinion, it is largely a combination of lazy or yellow journalism, hysterical exaggerations, stories to obtain ratings, or ideological nonsense.

        12. It’s all about the money and the ratings. Respected journalists have all retired at this point and you only hear stories about the nonsense (from some of these journalists) after they’ve retired. I believe many got out because they saw the change coming soon.
          They realized that it’s no longer about real news…it’s cheap entertainment for ratings (money).

    2. Even funnier they forget the strong female presence in Beyond Thunderdome.

  154. So the MSM promulgates a narrative while ignoring opposing viewpoints and then accuse the subject of the narrative of doing the same thing? Color me shocked.

  155. Men we’ve already won this victory. Just look at the cowardly comments from scared feminazis everywhere. I’ve taken it even further. Exposing their lies on every form of media I can find.

  156. You idiots need a hug. This website is like Fox News in the body of a 18 year old sexually frustrated jock. Funny but sad at the same time. But funny!…

    1. Let’s see… mentions Fox News, mentions jocks, mentions sexual frustration. Tries to act smug and pretentious by claiming to laugh this site off. Looks like a stereotypical hipster with a smug expression.
      Is this a troll account doing a caricature of a hipster?

      1. I’m not claiming to laugh it off. I’m really laughing it off. This boycott, this whole website is a sad laughing matter.
        Now the fact that I might be a hipster, a “sockpuppet of the female agenda”, a homosexual, a liberal or an actual male feminist does not change the fact that this website is written by and for idiots that have mommy issues and believe that women are not to be treated as equals. That is my actual face. This is indeed me telling you that there is still time, time for you to get your head out of your ass and act like a human being and stop supporting this brainless excuse of a blog.

        1. “I’m not claiming to laugh it off. I’m really laughing it off. This boycott, this whole website is a sad laughing matter.”
          Said everyone who was on the the other side of every issue ever. I don’t go over to Salon or Jezebel articles just to laugh and stick my nose up at them. Takes that extra level of preteniousness.
          “Now
          the fact that I might be a hipster, a “sockpuppet of the female
          agenda”, a homosexual, a liberal or an actual male feminist does not
          change the fact that this website is written by and for idiots that have
          mommy issues and believe that women are not to be treated as equals.”
          It does matter because it shows us what pre-packaged narrative, insults, and talking points you’re most likely going to be running with. You’re really no different than the people you claim to be laughing at. “mommy issues,” “shouldn’t be equal.” You are the opposite side to the coin to everything you’re against. It’s the horseshoe theory in action.
          “That is my actual face. This is indeed me telling you that there is
          still time, time for you to get your head out of your ass and act like a
          human being and stop supporting this brainless excuse of a blog.”
          I don’t really support this blog, though. I like some of the articles on here from time to time, but I’m not some huge ROK fan like others are. I’m not with you so you assume I must be team ROK all the way. There’s still time for you to look in the mirror a bit.

        3. It’s just something I read maybe a couple times a week if there’s an article I find interesting. I don’t really support it, though. I wouldn’t cry if it disappeared and never returned, and I probably wouldn’t donate money to keep it online if it needed some funding for whatever reason. This isn’t a site I have any real investment in.

        4. That’s the only reason I would be found reading a jezabelle article. I do very some sadistic pleasure from correcting their findings with citations…

        5. A lot of people like to compare ROK to places like Jezebel, but I find that ROK can take criticism and attacks much better. I haven’t seen anyone get banned or run off for disagreeing or even outright attacking people here. I got banned from Jezebel a long time ago just trying to have a normal conversation.

        6. Jezabelle, Fox news, really any of the big network names, that bizarre man from the 7 00 club that has a very tenuous grasp on reality… They’re just cashing in, but their biased, misleading, and sometimes, blatantly dishonest news creates an illusion of persecution, creates unnecessary fear, and feeds on the most basic prejudices of humanity. I find that type of reporting to be born morally and ethically bankrupt. Most of this country has no real idea of what is actually going on one state over because they believe what they hear on the news.

        7. Everyone is so polarized and wanting so much control over everyone that I more and more have to respect those who just want to live their lives and be left alone.

        8. That level of fear mongering that is largely packaged and sold by the news media is something that I’ve never really understood there is a frightening willingness in this country to persecute and oppress those that can’t fight back, many ages ago, Foucault noted that nothing United the western world like a race war… I just don’t understand that mentality, but I watch it unfold regularly. That was not the intention of our Founding fathers when they talked about freedom of the Press

        9. And I wasn’t talking about feminists. Feminists seem to be Rather well funded. They have lawyers and such. The news media and politicians teens to look for the absolute lowest blow possible. I suppose it’s a bit naive to still expect some ethical consideration, but…

      2. I do think expecting someone not to laugh at Fox news may be asking too much. You can call me a cunt all you like, but sometimes a fox reporter starts talking, and I can’t help it…. I don’t even know how they report the news with a straight face.

        1. I’m certainly not defending Fox News. It’s just funny because it’s always the first thing out of the mouth of a stereotypical SWPL liberal hipster to attack someone with. As bad as Fox News is, using it as an attack is basically a running joke now since it’s pretty much all they know.

        2. I’ve laughed at times to some of the reporting on Fox News. But I’ve also laughed at MSNBC for some of that station’s reporting. It seems that it’s all about ratings (money), sensationalism, etc…to sell, sell, sell.

    2. Oh wow, snark and shaming, how novel.
      Please, try harder next time Poindexter.

    3. Doesn’t agree with the opinion of others so resorts to name calling. No opinions welcome just think “like me” or you’re all wrong.

  157. The organic “herd mentality” of regular people is only one aspect (and now a minor one) that we have to deal with when expressing our opinions. The reality is that there is literally an army of poorly paid trolls employed by the MSM (mainstream media) who swarm certain sites / blogs constantly in order to quell any sort of revolt against the Marxist agenda (these losers are literally given training manuals), as well as “bots” programmed for similar purposes. As such, there are VERY few comment sections of controversial sites / blogs that are worth spending any time on — ROK’s is the last one that I even bother with and I suspect it will soon be overrun by the agenda.
    The main effect of such inorganic (phoney, unnatural) opposition to growing popular opinions is that it gives the IMPRESSION to newbies (who are on the fence regarding certain “controversial” issues because of not having identified the real source of their malcontent) that the majority of society opposes their germinating views — which results in creating shame / fear in the awakening newbie and retards his natural evolution in opposing Marxism. This of course is false, because there is often MUCH MORE support for certain “controversial” ideas / opinions within an awakening society, but the MSM’s main purpose is to divert or expunge such commentary, leaving the impression that only fringe conspiracists hold such crazy (nay, dangerous) views.
    I suspect in a few short years, we’ll look back and see lots of similarities to the Wizard of OZ, in that the whole deception is controlled by some deranged rich old man who is pulling levers behind a curtain and manipulating the simple minded fascists among us (ie. feminists, homosexuals).

  159. I wasn’t going to see this movie just because the media is practically frothing at the mouth promoting it so I figured it had to have some whacked out ideology. Thanks for letting me know which one

  160. Judging by the reception of the previous article and this one I’d say ROK has won this battle, and remember no matter how tough it gets do not resort to cap locks in an argument with the left.

    1. Won what battle? You actually think you’re in some sort of war? Laughable.
      Don’t be afraid of the big bad CAP LOCKS or a movie.

      1. Actually yes, it is a war. Cultural Marxism is a very clear war. You are the dude in France during WW2 saying “Wait, you mean to tell me that all of this shrapnel, tanks and Maginot Line nonsense means that we’re at war? Qu’est-ce que c’est!?!?”

        1. Don’t talk to me about War, unless you actually been in one. Which you haven’t by your pussified response here.
          There’s no war, and you certainly aren’t on the front lines. You’re the guy sipping on a slurpee sitting in your moms basement pissed off at the world because some women, people in general are better than you.

    2. Damn do we need him back. Now, more than ever (to at least save this franchise).
      Mel, if you’re out there, get a group together and take back Mad Max.

  162. Box Office Mojo says Friday’s take was about 16 million; I had heard they were hoping for 40 million. If that’s true, Mad Max Fury is off to a bad start.

      1. How much of that budget did they actually need? It’s a bunch of vehicles driving around in the desert.

        1. They need a lot of extra takes, edits, and special effects equipment to make the stuff Furiosa does look real.

        2. Did you know her arm wasn’t really a metal one as well? Fucked me right off that did. Why can’t BLOODY women just get real robot arms. smfh

  163. Good stuff. Forcing the fem -bots into a spot where they have to say “Hollywood isn’t controlled by feminists” at least raises the question to uninformed men.

  164. They are really pushing it.
    Women in spotlight at Cannes Film Festival
    The subject of women’s roles in the world of cinema has been in the spotlight at the 2015 Cannes Film Festival.
    female directors are vastly outnumbered by their male counterparts.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32763053
    Expect more rubbish films when the quota for female directors is met.

    1. That’s gender discrimination, making The Cannes Film Festival sexist.

      1. Men are in general less good at making films, it’s the unfortunate truth.

    2. Now their pushing for “equality” for women in directing (plenty of women have had opportunities to act as well as direct).
      Yes, it is sexist and it’s more bullshit from the mainstream media. There are plenty of female directors out there in Hollywood (and the world).
      The Hurt Locker (2008) – good movie and directed by a woman (she won 2 academy awards – 6 total for the film). They always talk about their “victim” status.

    3. Don’t worry. It is just a matter of time before the movie industry goes to fuck. Internet videos are going to rip the fuck off HoleshitWood and the Film-making industry. With Online videos, every house is a TV/movie studio. Let them die a slow and painful dead.

  165. The same people that cry about the suppossed feminist political message here are the same kind of people that will shout you down if you try to say American Sniper had a political message. You’re all a bunch of sheep on either side, letting whatever political ideology drive your sense of gender identity. Be yourself and whatever you think is manly/womanly and stop being suck a spineless coward and adopting whatever other people pressure you into being.

    2. Wait, how can a movie based on American sniper not be expected to have at least some underlying political message…

    3. What are you even talking about? Do you know? Yes, some films have political messages so strong that they qualify as propaganda. I tend to try to avoid paying to see these movies. Is that anti-individualist in your Orwellian book?
      This new Mad Max film has an overtly feminist plot, according to feminists and the mainstream press. Thus, there are things I’d rather go see instead.
      https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/7-ways-mad-max-fury-002900486.html

    4. Yes, it has a political message. Moral of the story: STOP WATCHING HOLESHITWOOD movies.

  166. Looking at those article titles, the parallels to the “Gamers are dead” surge is uncanny.
    Then again, groupthink does that to the weak-minded in the media.

  167. Huffington Post’s response article in a nutshell:
    “PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET ARE MEAN”
    Anyway, we thank them for reading and giving us free publicity.

  168. I want to thank ROK for saving me the $20 it would have cost to see Mad Maxine: Blue Pill Fury. And yes, I’m spreading the word to avoid this at all cost.

  169. First off, 2014 was a disastrous year for feminists. Now they’re in the process of turning our idioms into household words. Are they that megalomaniacal or are trying to discredit themselves? Our ranks are about to swell.

  170. Most remake are crap anyway. Holywood don`t need my money especially when pushing their anti male agenda. Fuck off!

      1. What woman? And they still need Max to win. 🙂 Did you ever think people are also maybe tired of the same dumb action movie?

        1. The woman writer for the mainstream press who crows that the new Mad Max is very much a feminist “lesson” film.

        2. Right. It’s right there in your face. So I guess all of the movies will be rewritten or taken over by women. The new Die Hard movies will have a woman playing ‘John McClaine” (I guess). I’m wondering how they’ll sucker us into going to that one, too.

    2. Terminator 2, Aliens, etc….all good movies with women in good action flicks. The difference, at least, is in the names. Aliens was called Aliens (not Ripley). Good flick, good female lead…all good stuff. Same with Terminator.
      Mad Max is supposed to be about Max (lone guy, making it out there bouncing from situation to situation). He’s not supposed to be the chauffeur in the series or play “Robin” to Batman…he is Batman. Get it?

    3. Unfortunately… Yes.
      One difference to mention: In T2, a masculine robot destroys the T1000, with the impersonation of Arnold.

      1. Funny. If you knew anything about the film world, you’d know it is the LEAST feminist industry in the world. It’s a boys club and what men say, goes.

        1. I’m serious about trying to get a gig. I have multiple accounts and am on many different sites.

    2. Until the next 9/11. Then you come running back with tears in your eyes and submissive postures. As always. So predictable.

      1. Agree….when the shit hits the fan, watch women run or look to men for help.
        I had dept. managers (women) at a previous employer who came to me when we lost power at work asking me “what do we do?”. First, you calm down (your supposed to be in charge, leader).
        It’s a fine example of playing leader and actually leading.

    3. It is fun to watch you ridicule Men when Men are they only thing allowing you the freedom to speak.
      You haven’t even had the right to vote for all that long. I hope you realize that anything you think you have could be taken away at a moments notice and you would have nothing to fight back with because you are, by nature, a weak organism who cannot fend for itself.
      So please enjoy this time. Because tomorrow it all might be forcefully shoved back down your throat and there will be nothing you can do about it.

  174. lol did you just call somebody else talentless? HA god this websites pathetic

  175. I haven’t actually seen any anger over your butt hurt call to boycott the movie. I’ve seen a lot of laughing but no anger. Women are filling buckets with your man tears and gleefully bathing in them. As well they should.

      1. Agree. Feminists and SJWs are the only ones who are allowed to criticize anything, today. Everyone else is wrong (always)…you must think like them (or else).
        It’s a fine example of how society has gone backwards (not forwards). Equality (and the search for it) for voting rights, land ownership, etc…ending a long time ago. Today, it’s nothing but bitching about “what they don’t have” because feminism (3.0) told them that they can “have it all”. They don’t have it all so they’ll continue to bitch until the end of time.

    2. Oh, well that’s nice. It’s probably good from them to drench themselves in manly fluids. They like it. Hey are you watching them bath?

    4. Good little fembitch cuck need a scooby snack? You really do what you’re told and that’s awesome!

    1. Of course it is feminist propaganda. The problem is the mainstream media considers feminist propaganda to be the gospel truth. They are creating mythologies for the liberated, independent woman.
      When the shit hits the fan they will see just how empty this mythology is. A woman who understands the truth of her condition understands that all she has is because it is Men who are willing to protect her. And she acts appreciatively given this knowledge.
      Female liberation is an illusion. All we’ve done is really just given the dog a really long leash. It will be a rude awakening should we decide to give it a good yank and pull that bitch to heel.

  178. Rarely has an action movie, a car chase movie, been this critically acclaimed. Rarely, I mean never.
    Yeah I’m sure it is THAT AWESOME. Yeah no agenda, no conforming mindless ideological pandering going on in the media and with “critics” and all these assholes on the Internet freaking out about 1 article written by an unknown writer in the “manosphere” that over 99.9% of them have never heard of and automatically assume is all “Men’s rights activism” which is of course “a hate movement”.. God they really, really want this movie to be huge.

        1. lol, no, it’s dumb fucks from the right wing who understand shit about the autership that is involved in the movie of George Miller. It IS that awesome. Compared to it, other generic action movies suck

    2. The purpose of the film, as has been the case for quite a number of Hollywood films in recent times, is simply a platform for political proselytizing by the individuals who create them; a propaganda film of sorts. A mountain of other films are simply endless sequels, comic book heroes, and remakes. The preceding four film types I typically tend to avoid. However, I tend to avoid modern Hollywood tripe in general anyway.

      1. You avoid platforms for the political proselytizing by the individuals who create them, endless sequels, comic book heroes, and remakes?

        1. Those types of films I generally avoid unless they happen to be on television (which I also typically avoid) and have am too exhausted to do anything else.

        2. Typing at work, so excuse me if I misunderstand. There don’t seem many films left that do not fit into one of those categories…

        3. Indeed. My time has been spent in more productive ventures anyway. There are also a plethora of older films I have not viewed yet as well as having at my disposal other forms of entertainment.
          In my opinion, there is no reason to feed left-socialist coffers if one can avoid it. How others choose to spend their income however is their business.

        4. True that. So many great movies, the medium has been around about a century now. Add to that TV, imo, has gotten interesting and the future looks very promising. Really it’s the Internet that’s enabled creators to develop more complex narratives, richer characters, because people can miss episodes and then catch up and marathon view at their leisure. Then there are about 1000 books I’ve been meaning to get around to. Damn work.

        5. Heh, the number of books lined up in my personal library is becoming rather daunting, yet rewarding.

      2. Hollywood has long been criticized for using films for propaganda purposes. This isn’t anything new.

        1. Obviously. The frequency of such films has dramatically increased in recent times however. It is also why I typically avoid films that do. Particularly ones that promote left-socialist or militaristic ideas.

  180. Fiction. Fantasy. I understand the completely ludicrous feminine roles are evidence of the advanced damage caused to western civilization already, but the comments here look like a whine on jezebel.com.
    Charlize Theron is from South Africa BTW. South Africa. She’s been “married” three times. Exodus 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.

    1. Theron is from a broken home (dad was an alcoholic, threaten to attack them). Mother shot him (in self defense) no jail time served.
      Charlize is on her third marriage (or LTR) for a reason…she picks bad partners. She has been seeing Sean Penn since 2014 (guess how that will end?).
      Plus she adopted a son in 2012 (guess how he will turn out? anyone?).

  181. The pussified media need the original article to be a joke. They need to spin it as: “MRA/Red Pills pathetically afraid of fictional badass female character”, because they want to frame it in the context of masculine insecurity.
    This isn’t want the article is about at all. It is about calling bullshit on this feminist mythology that women are just as physically powerful as Men. That these images modern media are pushing are garbage designed to make women think they are truly equal in this regard. That it actually does a disservice to women to believe this delusional propaganda.
    What if Mad Max: Fury Road showed the truth? What if it showed what would have really happened if Furiosa had disobeyed her Male masters? What if it had showed a long graphic sequence of her bent over the hood of a car being forced to pull a train up her fuck hole as the warrior tribe maintained order by raping her sorry ass into submission?
    The feminists would have exploded in outrage. Why? It wouldn’t have just been about the rape itself. It would be because the film would be telling them the unpleasant truth that they are not really independent. That they cannot exist in safety without the protection of Men. That they do not need to serve, submit to, love and appreciate Men. That Men are not there just to serve their needs.
    If a feminist were to live 3 days in an apocalyptic hellscape like Fury Road, she would be down on her knees with her mouth open begging to suck off the first Man who could give her any semblance of safety and security.
    And that is a fact.

    1. The article is even more of a joke than the media says it is.
      Oh, and it is a movie, not “what would really happen” bullshit you cry baby man.

      1. No its not just a movie. It is propaganda. It is feminist propaganda plain and simple.
        We had no real modern, female actionheroes until feminist ideology started to stink up the sociopolitical landscape by the 70s. Why? Because we knew it was ludicrous.
        These movies give women the idea that they are physically equal to Men. Sometimes even superior in that regard. They give women the idea that they are equal or superior to Men in logic, military strategy, etc., etc.
        It’s bullshit. We are calling it out.

        1. Sure it is buddy, but guessing by your name I shouldn’t take what you say seriously. Also, you are the king this site so desperate tried to bring back. Congrats 😉

        2. So you are going to argue that this movie is not feminist propaganda? Have you seen it? I have. I needed to make sure for myself. The titular character Max, is really just a sidekick. This movie is all about Furiosa and her attempt to save some Maxim sluts from the evil Patriarchy. I am surprised at the end those cunts didn’t find an old dusty copy of The Vagina Monologues and decree it to be the sacred word of the life giving goddess who would return all the green the Men killed away.

        3. So in your view the guy who had sex slaves was right, is that it?
          Did you complained about Django too, saying it was black propaganda?

        4. There is so much truth to this one and to the reaction that women displayed with 50 Shades came out. You don’t have to believe it but just look at their actions….it’s all about being dominated (even though they want to appear to be the ones who kick ass and in control).
          50 Shades (and the female reaction) is very telling about how women real react to certain situations. They want a man to dominate them (the rest is bullshit, lip service).

        5. Django is far more believable in the sense that a man fighting other men and winning is believable.
          I do think in a world such as Mad Max sexual slavery would be a necessity at times for females who refused to submit but, generally speaking, it would be rather unnecessary as women, when confronted with the gravity of their weakness in a world not propped up on the artifice of feminism, would revert back to their naturally submissive state. They would be appreciative of the stability and safety men brought to their lives and would behave accordingly.
          Women, by nature, are really born to serve so, whether forced into or not, they already technically represent a slave class. And that is one of the many things feminism is desperately running from.

    2. Women are fickle. In a REAL post apocalyptic world they’d huddle around whichever man is the most successful and dangerous. They know it’s better to be on the alpha’s good side. Their only real role would be satisfying his cock.

  182. Update:
    Perfect Pitch 2 (opened this weekend) is far surpassing expectations with a projected $64 million weekend, putting more than $20 million ahead of Mad Max Fury Road which should end up at around $41 million.

    2. Movies have two weeks to make profit, if not they are failures. Let’s hope this one is.

      1. This movie might break even. Compared to the series that’s pretty god damn weak.
        The first three did very well at the box office

        1. No, they did not do “very well at the box office.” Actually, they didn’t do that well at all at the box office. You should do some simple research. They were middling to low box office performers at best, even if you adjust for inflation. This is typical white male hysterical paranoia. For more than a century, beginning with Birth of a Nation, every movie had a white guy hero killing Blacks, Browns, Native Americans, Asians and getting every female he wanted. Your egos were pandered to and catered to at the expense of everyone else for a hundred years. Now that 100% of everything isn’t about you, you do what all spoiled children do: you throw an over-the-top tantrum. Get a grip. Does it frighten you that much to see someone else, someone who doesn’t look like you, be the focus of a movie?

        2. Sure they did. The ROI was very good on these movies. So far, the new one hasn’t even broke even (like they thought it would in the first weekend – as much as they advertised it).
          Anyone can find the numbers online so your argument is hollow.

        3. No, the ROI wasn’t “very good” on these movies. They were never more than a cult object. It’s surprising that they invested as much money into this franchise with this movie as they did given the modest returns it has produced in the past. You’re engaging in revisionist wishful thinking because, in fact, your argument is the one that is hollow. You’re also engaging in fabricated bullshit. This movie cost $150 million dollars and NO ONE, including the filmmakers, ever suggested it would open at the box office with $150 million, so your claim that they thought it would break even on opening weekend is bullshit you fabricated.

        4. “For more than a century, beginning with Birth of a Nation, every movie had a white guy hero killing Blacks, Browns, Native Americans, Asians”
          Goddamn, you’re going to make me break down and cry with that shit. Birth of a Nation was brilliant, btw.
          And yes, this is a white man’s country. We don’t want you around. Take a fucking hint, why don’t ya?

        5. I guess we’ll have to disagree (and see if they break even). I’ve already looked up the numbers so I didn’t pull them out of thin air (nice try).

        6. According to Forbes the film has generated a good return for opening weekend:
          “Mad Max: Fury Road didn’t top the weekend boxoffice in its debut frame, but it’s still a winner. The $150 million sci-fi action spectacular earned a superb $44.44 million over its Fri-Sun bow.”

        7. I guess I was pretty happy to see that it got its ass kicked by Perfect Pitch 2 (70 million) who had a budget of 29 million. Now that movie will make (or made) money.
          You would have thought for all of the hype, promotions and female ass kicking it would have topped the box office (but it didn’t).
          The new Avengers movie (now in it’s third week) made about the same money as Fury Road opening (40 million).

        8. What you want doesn’t matter. And it won’t be a white man’s country much longer. The minorities will be the majority soon enough. You’re the one who better take a hint.

        9. You may have looked up the numbers, but you either didn’t understand them or you interpreted them incorrectly. And I don’t care if it breaks even or not. Given the international box office and DVD sales it will probably do fine. Your attempt to label it a failure compared to the box office “success” of the previous films is what I’m calling bullshit.

        10. It’s too early to call it a failure but I think it was way off on hitting it’s mark. I mean, jesus, the movie got schooled by Pitch Perfect 2 in the opening weekend. Not The Avengers, or Terminator or any other high powered movie….fucking Pitch Perfect 2.
          It may do well with DVD sales, etc…and make up some ground but come on….do I really need to explain this shit to you? Is there anyone else there who can work your computer for you?

        11. Listen, pal, you’re the one who doesn’t get it. It “got schooled” by Pitch Perfect 2 because Pitch Perfect 2, UNLIKE FURY ROAD, is the sequel to a movie that was a popular success and, UNLIKE FURY ROAD, it’s the sequel to a movie that came out within the last 25 years! There are people pushing 30 who weren’t even born when the last Mad Max movie came out; they have little to no knowledge of this film’s history. This is a completely new movie to them.
          Stop trying to argue this like you know what you’re talking about. You clearly don’t and you’re just twisting events to try to make them conform to your prejudiced opinion of this movie. The whole thing — your criticism, your justifications — smacks of desperation. Is your male ego this fragile that one movie can unhinge you like this? Go watch a John Wayne movie or the literally thousands of other movies that pander to your white male ego. No other segment of society in this country’s history has had their ego catered to as much in movies as white men, so why are you whining about this movie so much? Did you ever give a damn about any of the thousands of emasculating or sexist movies that insulted women and minorities for over a century — and still do, I might add? Or is it all about just your spoiled self?

        12. Right…Mad Max….whoever heard of that series.
          Many people weren’t around when Stan Lee launched The Avengers (and that is still kicking ass decades later. Weak argument.
          Your right, man. We’ll end it there (because it’s going nowhere).

        13. Wow, that’s dumb. You’re comparing it to The Avengers? Most people still don’t know the Avengers comic books or most of the characters. I had a co-worker, a well-educated 30ish Financial manager, just recently ask me who Thanos was after seeing Age of Ultron. They only know the movies which came out a decade into a Hollywood revival of comic book movies. The Avengers are the result of the Spider-Man movies and the Iron Man movies and Thor movies and Captain America movies, all of which raised audience interest in comic book movies and prepared them for the Avengers and all of which came out in the RECENT past — not 30 years ago. You really are being ridiculous. There’s no common sense to your arguments and I suspect that you know that about yourself but you’re too stubborn to ask for directions — by that I mean you’re being a stereotypical male.

        14. Someone knows who they are, I guess.
          As of today, The Avengers 2 (Box Office results: $372 million).

    1. Until we replace Aeon Flux or Laura Croft (Tomb Raider) with a man…then we’ll see if it’s still “only a movie”.

    2. The real question is, why does everyone care that a handful of men want to boycott it?

  184. Because non-mainstream media are stepping on media groups’ toes.
    For brainwashing to take place properly, there must be no disident voice. The manosphere, blogs, independent media, amateur youtubers are waking US (I owe my awareness of feminazism and its lies to them) from the massive delusion we have been living in.
    Independent thinkers upset the status quo.

    1. prop·a·gan·da, 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
      That’s what the media has been sustaining against the public for years. It’s true, they hate dissidence.

  185. You must have hit a nerve. I guess they proved ROK writer’s were spot on about it being feminist propaganda or the media would not have freaked out so much about it.
    Of course, this is stupid. By making a big deal out of this they’re only making the boycott more likely to happen. If they had just left it alone, probably only a few men would have listened.
    I mean, even if Mad Max is a feminist movie, I think most guys taking a chick to a flick would rather go to that than something like The Notebook or Titanic.
    But now they may not even get that crowd. Women certainly aren’t going to choose to see Mad Max. Rabid feminists for all their bellyaching aren’t interested in this type of movie.
    So it’s really stupid of the studio making this. They’re alienating this movie’s demographic.
    Both my parents are martial artists. But a part of that is knowing your strengths and weaknesses. The only way she could flip a guy twice her size is by using his own momentum against him. It’s risky. The guy has to swing and she has to dodge and redirect his force.
    Hollywood makes it seem like a 125 lb Scarlett Johansson could front kick a 370 man and send him flying. Um… no.
    She could make give him a bruise, maybe even break a bone if she hit right. But no.
    I’ve met a couple women who were as strong as men. Those women were not attractive in the normal sense. Those women were like bears. One of them still works as a bouncer at a bar (yeah that’s how strong she is). An average size guy made a crude comment and she lifted him up by the front of his shirt and was able to hold him toward the road. The dude nearly wet himself.
    But again, those women do not look like super models. Those women with that kind of strength DO NOT look like Charlise Theron.
    It’s like how Joan of Arc gets depicted as this cute girl. Even historians admit she was probably kind of buff. The girl ran around in a full suit of armor. That’s not easy even for guys.
    I wouldn’t mind them showing women throwing guys around if they showed realistically what those kind of women who can do it look like.

    1. I think that’s what they were really after in the long run. They know that they had to appeal to men but also had to make it appealing for women. So they threw in the Mad Max title with car chases, explosions, fights, etc (for men) and threw in the “strong and independent” woman for all of the women.
      We were the missing variable that they didn’t count on. No one is going to watch a Batman movie if Batman isn’t the main character (it should be called something other than Batman at that point). Hollywood screwed up with this one…hopefully they’ll learn a lesson from it.
      A side note: anyone really interested in seeing the new (or remake) Ghostbusters movie (where they’ve replaced all of the men with women)? It’s another example of women hijacking the leading (successful) roles that men had at one time. We’ll see how that one goes as well.
      Here are the numbers that they’ll need to hit to match the original Ghostbusters:
      Budget: 32 million
      Box Office Gross: 229 million

      1. Yeah, I’ll be boycotting that one as well. It’s hard enough to find a movie or tv show without Leftist apologia subtly weaved into it. I’m def not going to go to one where it’s front and center.

  186. Has anyone looked into that assclown who was talking about abusing his wife and daughter? Talking about how you have to destroy women mentally and all this stupid, over-the-top shit?
    Smells like a setup to demonize ROK on the part of the SJWs to me.

    1. Nope, but it would not surprise me if one pretended to be an ROK reader so they could defame the website.

  187. And if that happens, someday, some movies may not even be about men at all.
    That doesn’t matter to anyone. Go write “Angry Anne” or “Superwomen Save The Universe” if you want. Have it 100% women, trannies and some of those fancy made up genders if you want.
    The problem is not that there are movies about women, it’s that stories and franchises that already exist based on male protagonists are being redone with a 100% feminist slant for no reason other than to push some ridiculous agenda.
    It just proves that females and feminists can’t create anything, they can only infect and destroy.
    Sorry…unless it’s feminists with degrees in Women’s Studies or Gender Issues fabricating new genders. They can definitely create those.

  188. Hysterical reaction of the feminist crowd clearly shows their emotional weakness (not surprisingly for their demographics). They are going insane and making fools of themselves just because people chose not to watch some silly feminist-themed movie?
    I suggest that ROK writers should exploit the same formula to cause as many similar feminist-hysterias as possible.

  189. Dear Return of Kings commenters: I’m happy to come over and dry your tears. Hilarious!

    1. Hahahahahahaha, good one!!! Their tears, roflmaoomgwtf, that is some good shit, you totally smashed the patriarchy with that one hells YEAH!!!

  190. On the other side of the coin, I think Ex Machina is a very good covert red pill movie. AI taken to an advanced level with a feminine identity acts exactly how a woman would: Cunning, manipulative, unaccountable.

  191. I’d boycott the new Mad Max movie but I can’t …. because I’m already boycotting pretty much all of Hollywood for similar reasons…
    Every movie is either a kid’s movie or some preachy SJW drama. Movies marketed to men are feminized propaganda, movies marketed to adults are childish…comic book movies and remakes that appeal to people in their 30s and 40s who never got over their childhoods (while this man in his 30s longs for more mature, compelling content). Not only do I not like being preached at, I especially don’t like being preached at by a live action cartoon.
    Even before I started reading about Mad Max: Fury Road in the manosphere, I knew I wasn’t going to see this piece of shit because it looks like a childish piece of shit. I’d much rather see something original.

    1. Likewise. It is what might be referred to as political proselytizing, and it has indeed become extremely old, akin to a scratchy record. It reminds one of the fervent religious fanaticism you might experience when engaging Baptist Fundamentalists.
      Modern films are typically either too lazy or too ideologically infected to enjoy them. However, since my time and money is better spent elsewhere. Where others might spend their income is their affair.

  192. Yes, very good point. And to my friends of the Men’s Rights Movement I have to say I am very disappointed for having stabbed a perfectly reasonable non-feminist writer in the back in some ridiculously weak attempt to distance themselves from a brother who spoke the truth, simply because he wasn’t of the exact same ideological coloring. “It wasn’t us, we didn’t say it!” — what a weak and pitiful reaction!
    That said, we see that exact same move by the people here who say “wow, we are not a Men’s Rights site” and blah blah blah. What does it matter? I am not for bashing MRMs, RoK people, MGTOWs or Manhood Academy folks. Just stop all of this distancing eggshell dance trying to appease some of the feminist Borg. Anyone contributing to the non-feminist awareness is cool with me. It’s all part of a movement for liberty.

  193. Whats up with all the generic smug mocking bullcrap? It seems to be common with social justice warriors.
    Clickbaiting while scrolling for “owned” comments in the comments section.
    Why create the same article your sister site did and search all night for that perfect comment by Manny Mangina to upvote/feature/tweet out? Do the refuting of ROK’s articles yourselves, or better yet – attempt to have a conversation. What happens when Manny decides to move on, decide enough is enough and leave your shitty site (these left-wing “news” sites ARE on the decline)? They’ll be left in the dust mocking everyone else, thinking they got the last laugh

    1. “Do the refuting of ROK’s articles yourselves, or better yet – attempt to have a conversation.”
      They can’t, not without crib notes.

  194. I’m glad I read the original article. There is no way I am going to see this movie as I am sick to death of feminist crap infiltrating all masculine areas of society. You have to admit, using action movies as a Trojan horse to brainwash men with their poisonous ideology is pretty clever. It makes me glad that sites like ROK exist, to educate men about what is really happening!

    1. Nothing is happening. It’s just the same old guy saves damsel in distress while saving the day from the evil doers flick that should not offend your fragile masculinity.

      1. It’s not about “offending my fragile masculinity”. It is about men everywhere being sick to death of crap movies!

        1. A woman being resourceful, showing some skills, and having the courage to stand up against an evil tyrant who would probably flay her alive should he catch her does not make it a crap movie just because it obliterates your sense of masculinity. Growing up means it’s okay to portray a woman who is a bit more than a mere damsel in distress without feeling threatened by that!

      2. I don’t think so. This movie has Max tied up for half of the movie…and then the woman comes along to kick ass and save the day (while Max takes orders and drives).
        Shes, also, saving the other women. This isn’t Mad Max…it’s another movie (Resident Evil reboot?).

        1. Every action movie has the hero in some kind of a bind, but who came up with the idea that turned the evil tied? Who saved her life when she was dying? A real feminist movie would not need Max for any of these things.

        2. Hollywood is trying to “have it’s cake and at it, too”. They know they can only go so far in movies because the other side would reject it.

        3. Well when they make the movie that “goes too far” then we should boycott, but clearly this is not that movie. I’m not even sure what you mean by the phrase “going too far”? As a screenwriter I’m currently writing a project where the heroine is even more intense than Furiosa is in this movie. Unlike Furiosa my heroine doesn’t rely on a man to save her–is that going too far? Unlike Furiosa she doesn’t drop too her knees when her plan backfires and scream in defeat–is that going too far? In my story she has to face off with a villain whose martial arts skills are so grand as to render him practically unbeatable, and he literally throws her down a flight of stairs–is that going too far?
          What you think of as going too far is fodder for my imagination!

        4. Again…as plenty on here have stated….nothing wrong with a woman taking the lead in a movie. The problem (with this movie) was the woman trying to run the show in Mad Max.
          Resident Evil had a lead woman…no problem. It was called Resident Evil. The same with Tomb Raider or any others. Hollywood tried the bait and switch with the Mad Max franchise..and they got called out for it. We caught them pulling this shit and people didn’t like it (too fucking bad).

  195. I’m just gonna put this out there.. imagine the reaction from feminists if it was announced that there was going to be a ‘re booted’ series of Sex and the City. However, in the new series, Carrie Bradshaw and the other sluts… ah, sorry, sexually liberated women… were reduced to nothing more than background characters. The official explanation is there is a ‘lack of diversity” on the show, with masculine, heterosexual men badly underrepresented. The new series revolves around a new character, a red pill masculine man whose values are totally opposed to the gals. He ridicules them as washed up carousel rider spinsters, whilst pumping and dumping hot 20 something year old chicks at will. The girls look weak and pathetic, and complain about how they can’t attract this new guy, wondering “why does he want nothing to do with me? I’m depressed, I am invisible to the only men I want.” Do you think feminists would be thrilled about this, and carry on watching the show as if nothing had happened, or would they protest that ‘their’ show had been ruined forever? Exactly… men don’t try and ruin Sex and the City, so PLEASE HOLLYWOOD stop catering to feminists and stay the fuck out of the things we men have always enjoyed on our terms

    1. That would be awesome. With all of the gay men running Hollywood it maybe possible to pull it off. It would be the highest rated cable series in no time

    2. I think you are on to something here.
      We’ll need to setup ROK productions to get this script in the works. We have the technology…maybe we need to start making these types of movies. We’ll get Mel Gibson (or someone else) to play the red pill masculine man. Thoughts?

      1. Excellent idea! That is the new media. The old one is dead already, shit ass movies like this mad max remake will be ignored in the future. But, before that, we need content.

    4. I’m a bit horrified that you know their names. I have a vagina, and all I know about Sex in the City is that the horsey blonde wears a tutu n the opening credits.

  196. I didn’t know ROK had that much pull in the media. Besides that the mainstream must be very insecure to harp on a niche article for men from one web site.
    I don’t get the MRA stuff this is a red pill truth site only men can understand.

    1. Yeah, we all know this isn’t an MRA site. Very different in philosophy from the RedPill, but there is some overlap. Feminists are just trying to squash MRAs, so they’re trying to demonize them. It’s part of the propaganda war. They have the media on their side, but we have reason on ours. Keep chipping away at the enemy, gentlemen. They cannot sustain a lie forever.

    2. Remember the four stages of the war.
      1. They ignore you.
      2. They laugh at you.
      3. They fight you.
      4. You win.
      Me thinks that the manosphere is somewhere between 2 and 3.

  197. Well, would you look at that: Pitch Perfect 2 destroyed Mad Max….

  198. Glad I read this. I’m not going to watch it. Does anyone remember the movie.. I think it was called Author. It had Clive Owen I believe. They rescue some chick, and at the end of the movie she is just kicking ass. -_-
    I never thought of it as female propaganda at the time. It ruined the movie for me. Here is some skinny lady kicking the ass of large men! It made the movie corny.

  199. For the last two years the US Marines have allowed women to volunteer for the Infantry Officer Course at Quantico, VA. 29 Women have started the course and zero have graduated the physically demanding 13-week course. Even the most physically fit women can’t seem to pass the Combat Endurance Test. By comparison, of the 90 men in the most recent course, 81 passed; both women failed. These are some of the most fit, determined and “studly” women our society can produce, yet not a one can compete with the average male in tests of physical strength and endurance. And you can bet your bottom dollar, the Marine Commander at Quantico is under immense pressure from above to graduate a women. Still, no dice. My daughter, a Division I athlete, can do 21 pull-ups and outrun just about anyone, yet either of my two sons could crush her like a grape in a fight. Hollywood’s endless pushing of female action heroes is nothing more than mindless feminist propaganda swallowed whole by effeminate manginas and other “useful idiots.”

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