As the fallout from the failed Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia last weekend continues, leftist-controlled tech and social media outlets have started mass censoring right-wingers and banning them from their platforms. While sites such as Twitter have been hostile to the right for a long time, the events in Charlottesville—where alt-left agitator Heather Heyer was killed by rally attendee James Alex Fields, Jr.—have given leftist-run sites the excuse they need to ideologically cleanse their websites.
As of this writing, numerous right-wing websites and personalities have been banned from PayPal, Twitter, Paypal, Stripe, Facebook, Instagram, Mailchimp, Soundcloud, Uber, and countless other platforms. To make matters worse, domain registrars and website maintenance companies such as CloudFlare and GoDaddy have no-platformed The Daily Stormer, keeping the site offline since Sunday. It’s clear that ideological dissidents are going to have to change their tactics in order to keep their websites and other platforms online.
Dozens have been purged
And they’ve just got started. pic.twitter.com/Csk3s8aXZM
— Hamish (@Alba_Rising) August 17, 2017
Even before the Charlottesville rally, right-wingers had been targeted for no-platforming by leftist-converged social media and financial platforms. Since Donald Trump’s election, we’ve witnessed a flurry of attacks from Silicon Valley, from the mass demonetization of politically dissident YouTube videos to the banning of individuals such as Hunter Wallace, Davis Aurini, and ROK publisher Roosh Valizadeh from PayPal.
In the lead up to Unite the Right, Airbnb began cancelling the accounts of right-wingers that it suspected were renting apartments in Charlottesville to attend the rally. On the day of the rally itself, alt-right media outlet Red Ice was hacked by antifas, along with the personal Twitter accounts of hosts Henrik Palmgren and Lana Lokteff; the site is still offline. Baked Alaska and James Allsup were also banned from Uber after they were kicked out by their driver for supposedly being “racist.” This was all a prelude to what came next.
The first wave of the assault on right-wingers came on Sunday, when several of the major rally attendees, including Pax Dickinson, Mike Enoch, and Levi Smith, were banned from Twitter. Dickinson’s ban came not long after he revealed how local police had deliberately set up the rally attendees to be overwhelmed and attacked by antifas.
I got banned from Facebook suddenly. I hardly even post there, I can’t imagine what I could have done to get banned.
— The Duck Reborn (@TheDuckReborn) August 17, 2017
Over the next few days, PayPal and Facebook announced a major crackdown on right-wingers. Facebook has banned the pages and personal accounts of numerous right-wing personalities and sites, including American Renaissance, Christopher Cantwell, Pax Dickinson, and the Traditionalist Worker Party. PayPal has also banned Cantwell, Richard Spencer, Jason Kessler, American Renaissance, VDARE, and countless others from using their services, cutting them off from a vital source of funds. In the latter two cases, AmRen and VDARE were banned even though neither they nor their leadership had any involvement with Unite the Right.
Mailchimp did a massive purge on Monday, @CounterFund‘s account was also canceled as well as at least 4 others that I know of. https://t.co/d288wRY5tW
— The Duck Reborn (@TheDuckReborn) August 16, 2017
Additionally, Mailchimp has purged numerous right-wingers from using its mailing list services, including Christopher Cantwell and Pax Dickinson’s Counter.Fund. Cantwell was also banned from YouTube permanently and may be completely ruined due to his involvement in Unite the Right. Discord has also banned alt-right servers.
To make matters worse, leftists have begun attacking web hosts, domain registrars, and other infrastructural services that right-wingers rely on to keep their sites online. Rootbocks and Hatreon, two free-speech alternatives to GoFundMe and Patreon, respectively, have been forced to switch domains and webhosts after being banned due to their unwillingness to ban right-wingers. Free speech Twitter replacement Gab has been subjected to several DDoS attacks for the same reasons, and the Alternative Right blog was deleted from Blogger last night.
This is the largest DDoS attack against Gab in our existence.
Happening on our one year anniversary.
Only propelling our message.— Gab (@getongab) August 15, 2017
But no site has suffered as much as The Daily Stormer. After they published an article on Sunday mocking Heather Heyer, they were forced off their domain registrar GoDaddy after alt-leftists complained. They switched to Google Domains, only to have their domain seized in violation of Google’s terms of service. The Daily Stormer is currently only available on the deep web and may not be able to return to normal operations.
What’s astounding is that alt-left-controlled tech organizations aren’t even hiding their desire to purge right-wing organizations. For example, anti-DDoS service CloudFlare banned The Daily Stormer solely because their CEO woke up in a “bad mood,” which he admitted in a company-wide email:
Let me be clear: this was an arbitrary decision. It was different than what I’d talked talked with our senior team about yesterday. I woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet. I called our legal team and told them what we were going to do. I called our Trust & Safety team and had them stop the service. It was a decision I could make because I’m the CEO of a major Internet infrastructure company.
The purge has swelled to the point that Lauren Southern—who is completely unaffiliated with the alt-right and was not present at Charlottesville—was nearly banned from Instagram, despite her account there being completely apolitical. As Hamish’s Tweet above shows, these are far from the only examples of right-wingers being purged, no-platformed, censored, or merely harassed. Others, such as Social Matter’s Ryan Landry and AltRight.com/Arktos’ Jason Reza Jorjani, have chosen to leave the alt-right altogether.
Where do we go from here?
Imagine if we got to do the last 15 years of internet business over, on a slightly smaller scale but brand new? #AltTech
— The Duck Reborn (@TheDuckReborn) August 17, 2017
While the purge of right-wingers from mainstream financial and social media platforms appears to be slowing down somewhat, it is clear that the right can no longer rely on these services to promote or finance their operations. The fact that previously neutral platforms such as domain registrars and DDoS protection systems such as CloudFlare are also booting right-wingers is a chilling development, because it means that alt-tech platforms such as Gab, Rootbocks, and Hatreon are at risk of being no-platformed as well.
While I believe that nationalism will ultimately triumph over globalism, it is clear that right-wingers will need to take drastic measures in order to safeguard their First Amendment rights. In addition to minimizing or eliminating their dependence on mainstream platforms, right-wingers will also need to eliminate their use of Nazi imagery—even as a joke—and tone down their criticism of Jews. Much like how Roosh was able to maintain his relevance despite no longer being able to talk about rape, the dissident right can maintain its relevance without turning into Hollywood Nazis.
Additionally, the dissident right cannot look to President Trump for protection from the alt-left. While Trump has made his displeasure at the alt-left publicly known, his lack of action against them—and against the no-platforming of his right-wing supporters—indicates that he either doesn’t understand the problem or doesn’t care. For the moment at least, we are on our own.
Read More: Charlottesville Was A Disaster For The Dissident Right
The political left is comprised of those whose end game is totalitarian rule. Quite the opposite of a Constitutional Republic.
Even the EFF is very concerned.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression
Always liked the EFF. They seem to be among the few genuinely invested – on a mental and emotional level, not just monetary – in the philosophical consequences of networking technologies.
It’s a bummer, but not entirely unexpected. I was a bit surprised by some of the censors (Discord? Really?), but we’ve seen this brewing for some time. The Internet was considered “mostly harmless” for a good long while, because the powers-that-be could profit without really seeing any major opposition.
Then came GamerGate. YouTubers and Twitter handles that would normally ignore one another suddenly had a cause they thought worth fighting for, and they used the Internet platforms they had available to them to fight. Far from being “over”, gamers broke news stories, scattered memes describing the then-apparent lack of journalistic ethics, and otherwise struck a blow against the ever-advancing tide of feminism.
That was their wake-up call, and they really started in earnest following the Great Meme Wars (i.e. the 2016 election cycle). Instead of being mindless entertainment for pacified drones, content-sharing sites became sources for news, ideas, debate, and (most importantly) counter narrative. Even as Twitter censored trends and made their platform less and less usable in order to try to contain narratives, the message spread.
Now, they are in danger of losing their power, and it would appear that they are happy to risk losing their businesses altogether should it slow their ideological opposition. YouTubers are being blacklisted (they say it’s an automated algorithm, but either the algorithm is highly vindictive to certain content creators or it’s not an algorithm); Twitter profiles are being shut down and “shadowbanned”; Facebook is dropping pages left and right.
And, now, it’s not just the social media giants throwing their weight around. CloudFlare, GoDaddy, Uber, and Tor (which, it is amusing to point out, is apparently fine with black markets and child porn) are now involved, and that does not bode well for the future.
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On a positive note, there’s a really neat eclipse coming up on Monday. It’ll be viewable all across the 48 continental US states, and that’ll be pretty cool to see.
We dodged a bullet by kicking Kings Wiki off the servers when we did. It was found out that Jean Valjean (aka RaymondKertezc, the head admin) was a paedophile who threatened to kill Obama back in 2008 and was sentenced to 18 months prison.
Seriously? That’s a bummer.
It’s true. Someone on the forum googled part of one of Jean’s posts and found a wiki announcing Virginia politician Nathan Larson’s run for the House of Delegates (Larson had his voting rights restored in early 2017). This wiki had lots of links to Kings Wiki on it.
Larson is also notable enough to have been written up about on Encyclopedia Dramatica: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Nathan_Larson
In 2003, Larson also sent an email to a female college acquaintance consisting of a rape story he had written when he was 16, modified to refer to his acquaintance, and got charged with harassment by carriage service.
I’m not surprised in the least after the cases where Christian business owners went under on attempts to defend their right not to serve anyone in court. Truly makes one long for the days of the old internet with classic MySpace and the other pages from then. Now we have this going on.
What a time to be alive
It’s the Wild West – someone was bound to come along and try to tame it.
Indeed. I noted while doing a writing course that there hasn’t been this much of an increase of information spreading since the invention of the printing press. Few of the major established show runners are still around from then because they couldn’t adopt to the new technology quick enough. Now we can find new information within seconds and the current power players are scared enough to not even hide what is on their agenda in their attempts to hold on to what they have.
I remember the days of bulletin boards I think they were called… before AOL. In one case, I dialed into some guy’s board on his home computer in the next town over with my very high tech 28k modem. I got in an argument over something stupid so he disconnected me as I think only 10 people could connect at a time. I dialed back in and he ended up picking up the phone to yell at me. lol
Well, golly! I, for one, am all for internet censorship! We have to get those no good meanies off the internet before they hurt somebody’s feelings!
Very well said.
Man, you just have to hate the miserable thin skinned cunts who require intent censorship because they need to be special snowflakes and can’t take any criticism right Forney?
I mean it’s like, there are some people out there that if you were to call them a worthless fat sack of shit whose opinions are totally informed by their impotent rage they just want to silence you. Pffft. Glad it’s not like that over here in the happy land of ROK where everyone is a tough, macho, alpha male!
That reminds me. Any ideas on the policy concerns of Kratom-posting on Sponsored Posts?
ROK really is a happy land, isn’t it?
You’re pushing it. Take a couple days off instead of acting like a sensitive woman.
You’re right. It’s your site. Enjoy it while they let you.
Do you have a plan in case ROK gets no-platformed?
Why do you think there is a newly implemented comment policy? Its the scapegoat.
Become a farmer.
Root veggies? Taters and Carrots are pretty easy to grow, and pretty much always in demand.
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What crop?
No one want to silence you here despise your obvious trolling, sarcastically calling names and enticements. You Soros goon.
I guess all these people will have to now go out and get a life.
Yupp… this is the real news of the day… Thanks for the write-up Forney I’ll be stealing that image up top by Twitter user Hamish.
Also worth noting that Faith Goldy has been fired from Rebel Media and co-founder Brian Lilley has quit, for fear of being associated with AltRight.
If you like DailyStormer, Andrew Anglin can currently be found on gab.ai and Murdoch Murdoch’s videos are consistently being re-uploaded by other Youtubers.
Faith Goldy is pretty hot. I’m sure another network or channel will pick her up.
Must be nice to be able to get hired based on appearance rather than ability.
Welcome to the world of poor, poor, oppressed women.
Murdoch Murdoch is the ultimate ironic Nazi…
I don’t like Anglin or DailyStormer, but what did that anti-Nazi preacher say?
Ah, yes, Niemoller. The Gestapo spirited him away after the courts failed to sentence him to internment, if I recall correctly.
We have to tone down criticisms of Jews? What about blacks? Will ROK kick us off if we do? Will Disqus start doing that?
Just get more clever. Criticise hip hop culture and the ivory tower intellectuals. It addresses the larger issue.
ROK is a CloudFlare client.
While Trump has made his displeasure at the alt-left publicly known, his lack of action […] against the no-platforming of his right-wing supporters—indicates that he either doesn’t understand the problem or doesn’t care.
I find it more reasonable to think that Trump believes the market will adequately address and correct the issue.
CloudFlare can’t really be doing anything particularly unique. A combination of firewall applications on a reasonably powerful server setup could probably perform much the same role.
Hmm…I may have to look into that. Honestly never thought a day would come where a site like CloudFlare would be open for competition.
I’m just aware of their existence and basic mission. I haven’t really looked in to or considered what their technological approach might be. If I had to take a couple of quick guesses, I’d say it’s not as simple as you suggest. I’d guess something more distributed, significant redundancy, cross-layer traffic analysis, etc.
True enough, but a distributed platform isn’t as hard to set up as many would think – not easy, but not absurdly complicated.
Did a quick read-through, and they really offer about four things. They are a managed DNS system, meaning that you don’t look up Return of Kings on, say, Google’s DNS – Google points you to CloudFlare, and CloudFlare points you to RoK. That service can be replicated with a couple weeks’ work.
The second, and most useful to a site like this, is DDoS protection. They have a large system with firewall rules designed to isolate attempted attacks and prevent them from breaking through. That, too, can be replicated with a couple weeks’ work.
The other two services are of value to some, but not all. They offer security certificates for your site, optimization software, and bot-recognition services. The first can be replicated if desired, the second is available in other places, and the third really comes part-and-parcel with an effective firewall.
They’re a great service, no question. But I reckon it’s a replaceable service.
I posted this elsewhere, but it looks like CloudFlare won’t let you enter the IP address and bypass DNS altogether, FWIW.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6aec10c85ef23c4dbe70e9524886b088ee899720907a84989e446c8f103fddde.png
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An Italian (Ennio Flaiano) is credited with saying “There are two types of fascists in Italy: fascists and anti-fascists.”
Having trouble sourcing Churchill on this one. It’s a bummer – the guy had a way with words, and this wouldn’t sound entirely out of character.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1465513bf8bcd897713b270675d8fbfa26b4324223029a781be7d1ccf7d7cdda.jpg
I’m sad that Picard has gone full retard.
Indeed. He had such a magnificent head of hair on him too.
I always say if I go bald, I’m doing the Picard ‘dew
Holy crap, this is why I come here- comedy gold!
‘Tis better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all! Make it so…..
Good Lord!
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Pic! Pic! Pic! Picard!
He really has
Yes, the extremes blur together. People here may laugh at the word centrist, but the center-left and center-right have much more in common than they do with the extreme left and extreme right.
I thought you got banned.
lol no. I’ve just been on vacation. It’s August! Will post more after Labor Day.
awesome. cant wait.
Fascists and Nazis are not the extreme right. Fascism and National Socialism (Socialism ok?) were large state control of their populations. True right wing are for small government and individual freedom. If anything true right wing would have more in common with Anarchists.
The Marxists have been successful in distancing themselves from those two political ideologies. Also remember Communism starved and murdered multiples of those murdered by fascism and Nazism.
Left wing retards calling themselves “communist anarchists” is still killing me.
But not even a shred of their stupid self serving drama.
Makes the Georgia guide stones principles almost seem overdue and sorely needed.
The whole individual freedom part really gives me pause. If two homos want to marry are you really going to be ok with that? Would you be ok if a group of homos all converged on your town and you and your neighbors were unable to deny home sales/rentals to them because of anti-discrimination laws? Would you be ok with a business who wanted to put up “Are you HIV positive?” posters at every bus stop and billboard within a 50mi radius for your kids to see?
You point out a conundrum. A person says I want freedom. Then they want it only for their values.
How about we just have a set or laws/values/morals that are good, pure, wholesome, and rooted in (uncucked) Christianity? I think it would honestly solve a lot of societal ills.
I disagree. That is the beginning of the end of men’s agency. Religion in general, is designed to be a control mechanism. The ills are deep because they try to avoid adaptation to new circumstances. There has been massive change in economics over the last 70 years. The problem is that the elitist live in a golden cage controlling the money. Human individuals must wrest their agency back to themselves.
See this is why I truly have very little respect for lolbertarians. You guys are keenly aware of the problem yet are unwilling to do anything about it. You’d rather cite “muh principles” as to why you oppose or can’t do something rather than find a cure.
You cite lose of agency as if 1) we have any now and 2) if we did have agency and we lost it to create a better more pure America it would somehow be a bad thing if we lost agency to improve our nation. These arguments and positions are very reminiscent of establishment cuckservative positions as to why we can’t do things. Best to find reasons why can’t do or change things rather than find a cure.
You cite religion as a control mechanism as if that is a bad thing. Religious doctrine commanding women to be chaste, not have kids out of wedlock, not to steal etc. is a GOOD thing.
There is a difference between order an control.
1st what is the “problem” you are talking about? There are so many problems that we can easily be talking apples and oranges when the subject is pears.
Without a base of defined matter it is not possible to completely understand what is meant. I do not mean anarchy at all. Agency for each individual does not mean no restrictions via the body public. Some acts are easily agreed on. Others are much more tricky with nuances that have negative consequences for a long time.
Let’s start with one problem and perhaps write a piece. It would be easier when their is common definitions to discuss.
“We’ve never had more of a reason to throw away our cell phones.”
-Vinny Pringo
Moral high ground makes anything permissible.
Lately, I’ve heard a few people repeat the philosophy of Assassin’s Creed as their own: “Nothing is true; everything is permitted.”
A younger, more naive me would’ve been incredulous at the current zeitgeist.
Dubbing someone a ‘Nazi,’ ‘White Supremacist,’ Fascist, etc is apparently enough to elicit calls for stripping their god-given rights. Murder? Permissible. Suppression of Habeas corpus? Lock em up, they’re racist. Etc, etc.
The old “replacement” rule still works wonders for me. If I can replace the “evil” title with a “good” title, would it abhor me?
“Lock ’em up, they’re Black! Punch a feminist! Someone should just assassinate Taignobias, already.”
This is the danger inherent to mob hysteria. There is no guarantee that the mob will dissipate peacefully when the current “horror” is gone – they can just as easily select a new target, and that target might well be you.
To some people, one could rape and kill, and it still wouldn’t be as bad to them as racism.
Like how they excuse muzzies who rape and kill, via deflection ie blame whitey, blame the West, but when anyone calls the murderous thugs out, libtards scream waysis about it.
Exactly
When I see people start to cave to this sort of double-think, I recall that moment where Picard is describing his imprisonment and torture to Riker:
*Actually it was Deanna
But god damn Ronnie Cox played a complete prick of a Captain, great episode
It’s been a while. Among the best episodes in all of television, though.
Did you know the Cardassian tormentor didn’t have any prep time on the role. Apparently he was reading his lines off cue cards the entire time.
Honestly, this mob has been circling looking for something to object to since the day after Trump won the election. Russia was just too stupid– so “Nazis” is just what they were looking for.
I am still waiting for a serious discussion in the USA about something that actually matters.
Nice to work across from sir Patrick and have him raise your Game… although Davis Warner is pretty scary all by himself.
The problem is that the left’s moral high ground is only in their minds…
I wonder if/when Disqus is going to cave and starts censoring and banning people for having the “wrong” opinions.
That would not be desirable. It’s definitely an improvement over the more standard comment systems.
They’ve already banned sites for “hate speech”.
“Hate speech” can be almost all encompassing if they try hard.
Can’t even tell jokes anymore without getting a timeout.
The very concept of “Hate Speech” is a blond pussy hair away from “ThoughtCrime”
We’re really punishing people based on intent?
Disqus no platformed Anglin a few years ago before PayPal shut him down , “To find out who rules over you, see who you’re not allowed to criticise” …
Do you have a list of banned sites? Such a list could provide us with a little insight into their brand of censorship.
It already censored me for jokingly using a certain Latin phrase a Crusader may cry out about Jerusalem.
It’s Saracen counterpart, however…
I’ve gotten dinged by Disqus several times because of certain politically incorrect ‘keywords’.
God damn, how is this site even still up?
I’m counting the days
I’m not a computer guy(duh). I have mentioned here before about people not knowing what’s going on in the world (factually) because of the state of network news. Usually the first response I get is “people get their news from the internet now not television, the lefts monopoly of information is over!
It doesn’t look over to me.
I guess it was inevitable in the long run but in the short term a few nazi morons fucked us all last week.
It gave them something to get their teeth into. Now they can say, “See! We told you there were Nazis!” instead of, “But they’re NAZIS I tell you!”
Major setback, but I don’t think it has to be our Gettysburg.
I’m not ready to say uncle yet but, at the rate things are going wrongthink is going to start resulting in permanent bans from the interweb unless a bunch of nerds get redpilled soon.
On the other hand, it does show what the left is willing to do against anything they dislike.
Oh but if you had remained silent, you would remained a philosopher.
“The left are oppressing us!” Screams a Nazi. Then they get shut down. Sorta perpetuating the narrative, aint it?
And even here in this bastion of freedom, wise, long-time commenters (and some good-natured jokers) are being disappeared in droves.
The irony actually makes my dik itch.
Who disappeared?
“People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word.”
You know I just noticed that one rather busy poster hasn’t been here today.
Two by my count.
Three
Wait…has anyone seen Bob Smith or GoJ? Normally I wouldn’t worry, but dark times is a brewin’.
yeah – where’s GOJ?
I’m getting a ton of “This user is blocked” messages on my screen. WTF is going on?
You’ve blocked someone. You should be able to unblock them.
I’m not seeing anything.
Bob likes to take time off, not sure about GOJ. Odds are that if he was actually banned, he’s probably same something with a fake account
Only ones I block are the spammers advertising on here.
They don’t usually repeat, and get blocked from above. So you don’t need to worry about them. Go completely clear out your block list and refresh, see what happens.
That crazy-ass peach licker beer Pabst dude hasn’t been around.
he had a good (stupid) run yesterday.
He’s the Peach Bandit
That’s him….
Only thing I’m seeing is that guy who popped up a couple of days ago,
insulted a lot of people, and only occasionally had something of minimal
value to contribute. Looks like he’s out.
Everything else looks like I would expect so far. Except, as UnreconstructedConfederate just noted above, the peach orchard looks pretty bare.
He seems to spend a lot of time talking to himself.
I sort of enjoyed explaining why fascism would do the opposite of solve societal problems.
I liked that too. You did good.
Danke, danke, you are too kind.
Looks like he just hasn’t been on much the last couple of days. Come to think of it, he’s supposed to be traveling for a bit, isn’t he?
id imagine hes giving this thread a wide berth
So where in this vast digital existence could these people seek refuge? Where, I ask you!
could there be a citadel, a keem, a CASTLE out there?1?!?!?
A castle….for kings, yes?
A castle huh? Does it have a moat with gators an shit? And fair maidens? Not in the moat but in the kitchen.
Nah, the kind of CASTLE belonging to a KING.
The king don’t like gators? Or fair maidens?
find out at akingscastledotcom!
Your Dik-itch likely comes from Lolknee.
People are about to learn the real costs of Marxism, and the reason why they never should have ignored history when it purged populations by tens of millions…The death toll will be far worse this time. Those who forget or DENY history, are intent on repeating it. The Marxist scum traitors in America will make the Russian Marxist purges look like kindergarten if they are not opposed at the outset. a Smart people would not tolerate them at all and would wipe them out. just ask the Russian Gulag survivors.
“At what exact point, then should one resist the communists? … How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: what would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if during periods of mass arrests people had simply not sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. … The Organs [police] would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers … and notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.”
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
This is why we need to preserve the 2nd amendment at all costs.
What good is a Constitution when we live subject to the tyranny of an unelected fringe that is running things now?
So the thing is:
Free Speech as guaranteed by the Constitution is inviolable,
but what happens when all the avenues of communication are privately held, particularity by those who oppose Free Speech?
S.O.L.?
S.U.K.s
I’d like to say ‘create new avenues’, but I’m not quite prepared to defend such an idea.
Particularly in an environment where you would be liable to be physically assaulted for, say, trying to put up a flyer on campus that doesn’t conform to the prevailing notions of acceptable speech.
Someone will as money to be made.
I had a solution I posted the other day, but no one will give up their cushy lives of ease and convenience for freedom.
at least you didn’t get banned…
Oh it was a very unhappy solution. I guarantee it.
refresh my memory
Here ya go.
“I can tell you how to fix it, but no one will like it.
End the Technological age of modern electronic communications and electricity driven convenience (pull the plug). Mankind would then diverge into two paths, one that adapts and returns to the old ways and be sustainable. The other straight in to hell and end its miserable existence.
Good riddance. the convenience and rise of that technology has made mankind arrogant and lazy. With it gone, mankind would move forward, but mankind will not give up its new “opium”…oh no. so be it …..
“
That question was on a recent ballot. And we chose to NOT let Bernie Sanders usher us in to a new agrarian economy.
That’s stupid.
Blowing shit up never led people to a New Utopia
Suit yourself, Enjoy your censorship and echo chambers then.
because as we can see, the Sanderites of the left are big fans of free speech…
Not following the censorship bit. I would have more outlets of communication if I gave up electricity?
But instead you whine about your lost freedom, with the most current events? I never advocated blowing anything up. You want real freedom, it comes from shedding the shackles and bonds you choose to wear. If you love your convenience, you will always rationalize why having total freedom from others imposed constraints is suddenly too hard too much personal responsibility for your communications because it is reduced back to personal accountable level instead of across the distance and anonymity of the internet. You want freedom and no censorship, DONT GIVE IT AWAY TO A MEDIUM YOU DONT CONTROL/ OWN/ REGULATE.
Censorship is easy when you don’t control or own the medium of communications. The only communication you OWN is face to face speech.
” You want freedom and no censorship, DON’T GIVE IT AWAY TO A MEDIUM YOU DON’T CONTROL/ OWN/ REGULATE”
hear, hear!!!!
I posted a response to this above.
What, then, can be done? Until Internet Providers start attacking individual users, there is still a mechanism by which a platform can be preserved (or a network of platforms).
1. Host your platforms independently. It’s a big undertaking for a larger site (requiring router setups, rack servers, load balancing, etc), but a smaller blog-like platform can be run off a fairly cheap desktop computer.
2. Develop another DNS lookup system. Another larger undertaking, this requires a server designed explicitly to translate domain names to IP addresses and perform the routing. Most of the modern Internet is serviced by only a few DNS servers, but there are ways to configure your Internet to try other lookup systems.
3. Invest in static IP addressing. This is of the utmost importance for a DNS server, because whether or not you can find the platform you’re looking for relies on being able to find the figurative “guy who knows a guy”.
I imagine this is the route the DailyStormer will have to take if they are to remain on the Internet. It remains a potential solution for now, and it’s worth knowing about how the Internet works at a basic level these days.
You either provide a full working competitive system and keep it free form regulating interference, on all levels of the communications even the hardware/ software/hardwire/satellite interference or you rely on the only communication form that cannot be silenced by another, save by choking you or killing you personally.
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But I have face to face speech now, without giving up electricity. I can do both!
Kind of like planning early on to own your home or vehicles fully. No loans and no schuyster hatchet men with a clause that says they can whack you as they deem. Don’t agree to or sign anything. People clicked all kinds of “agree” shit for servers without reading, like reading the projectile legalese makes any difference.
See you did exactly as I said, you rationalized your “rights” you give away, because you think it doesn’t apply to you. electricity powers the easy communications methods that you whine about someone censoring you on. Nevermind, its over your head concept wise. You only “see” what your confirmation bias will let you see.
You don’t own what they can take away from you for non registration, non payment of taxes, lack of “license” to operate, lack of “registration” to operate on the roads the control and can TOLL..
that’s ludditism. It doesn’t work.
I’m not really trying to rationalize anything, I’m trying to find something in the concept to make sense of.
Maybe if you could walk me through it from the other direction. Say we’re back in the day before electrical communication. Then one day someone invents electricity, the telegraph, the Betamax, USB powered heated socks, and the smart phone.
I’m told that I can use these new forms of communication, but certain topics will be off limits.
What do I gain by declining to use them?
Sorry, but outside of the realm of Asimov ‘Destroy everyone’s electricity’ is not a solution.
That’s funny, the Founding Fathers created a country with out it. We had a Civil War fought without it, a nation explored and established without it… But it “is not a solution”… How linear and lazy that answer is. You don’t even know where your country came from. But you have a ready rationalization about a solution you cannot conceptualize.
That’s funny, the Founding Fathers created a country with out it. We had a Civil War fought without it, a nation explored and established without it… But it “is not a solution”..
It’s why they roll over in the graves. Their progeny devolved into this.
What do you LOSE by letting the owners decide for you what your voice can say?
That will happen inevitably in 100 years when we run out of fossil fuels.
Just read a book you would like called Shrinking the Tecnosphere
You mean more like mankind will move backward and stay put, the one part that survives that is.
That doesn’t seem that difficult, but it is incredibly impractical.
This isn’t about free speech. No one goes to jail for what they say online thank god. But their careers can be ruined.
For us normal folks, you’re right, it makes no difference other than we see the left spreading lies and witch hunts for nazis and racists, voting to open the borders to crazy people in the name of compassion…
Turning off my electricity would be more peaceful, until I walked down the street and got ran over.
I was just on that Las Ramblas street in Barcelona 3 weeks ago. Huge gay community in Barcelona and “refugees welcome” flags everywhere. Written in English as a mockery to the US. They kinda asked for it sadly.
That’s the main concern with leftist owned media. The narrative they push is anti American and pro destruction of western society.
Well, that was what used to happen in the Old Soviet Union.
I don’t say it as a placeholder argument, HOW are you going to end electrical driven convenience and communication in a technological society?
Do you imagine an extended hurricane Katrina situation with some people banding together into communities which would’ve been considered normal 50 years ago, and some people looting and being general parasites until they’re bumped off?
Now they just electronically assassinate people. If they wreck you via the internet and dox you, what difference does it make. So what if that’s what happened there. it just isn’t happening here yet, they don’t need to if they can accomplish the same thing and never se you in person.
Nobody truly wants the illusion of “freedom” if it cramps their lazy luxurious and easy life they know now. Padded handcuffs and shackles with a gag is still handcuff and shackles with a gag. Show me freedom in that. Show me “rights” as people declare them to be. They aren’t ights, they are gifted privileges that are taken on whim.
Such linear backwards bias confirming thinking. See my comment to SkulloManiac.
Oh? mankind didn’t exist prior to the drilling of oil wells in America and the Middle East now? It didn’t function, didn’t thrive? the problem isn’t the medium, the problem is the Rulers and Corporations that decide for you how you can use it. there is no “freedom” or rights when they can arbitrarily decide for you….oopsie, that’s where we are right now coincidentally…
Can you start this? Create a gofundme for the red pill versions of all this stuff. I can help with marketing copy, video etc
actually, in Germany, you can go to jail for what you say online
Whats incredible is that people cannot conceptualize humanity if that is taken away from them. Solar flare, EMP….if you cannot see what you HAVE to adapt to when deprived of your precious technology, why worry if you can survive the disaster to start with when you already say you cannot…its “impossible”….The problem is not the MEDIUM, the problem is WHO CONTROLS IT REGULATES AND OWNS IT, therefore they own the narrative, they own the echo chamber they own the RULES of its use and what is acceptable. you have no rights, but you cannot see that.
and thus mankind will not give up its new “opium”..
I don’t disagree that technology creates problems, is the author of a great many modern evils, but my point is that ludditism doesn’t work. Well I suppose it does if you think of say the Taliban, but that isn’t really an option in the real world, which is also a competitive world, and for one group to recede from technology is to simply leave another to exploit it without challenge. If though I agree with your analysis of a problem (very broadly speaking) we could consider the possibility of riding the juggernaut as opposed to simply tagging along as it’s victims. Those who become dependent upon technology becomes slaves to its use, and to the structure of use it creates. The aim should be free oneself from being beholden to technology while still being able to exploit it. Think of it as say getting a big dog that’s difficult to manage but can still be trained with patience and fortitude
My point was that long before there was internet, censorship was done and sorta worked. In order for your argument to make sense you’d have to do away not only with instant communications but long distance transportation…and don’t worry, many leftists and other groups are working hard to ensure tap water and energy are a distant memory.
Barcelona has a socialist/communist streak that remains from the Civil war times.
They will be enriched……
I get what you’re saying, but you’re also saying we win by surrendering territory without a fight and that just doesn’t sound right.
You also can’t avoid the eye of Sauron forever. Russians didn’t have tech like we have in 1917 they still got the bullet.
Yeah but if the other guy doesn’t give up his tech he’ll use superior communication and technology to destroy us. His message will spread and our won’t.
And the current censorship isn’t already doing that and headed to complete control of the electronic communications? Hello…..
I’m confused, what exactly do you think you are winning? Winning over fence sitters or leftist scum? You aren’t winning anything, in fact you have been losing steadily since the election campaigns started. Ever since then mass censorship has occurred through all Europe and the USA.. you aren’t winning anything not hearts not minds not arguments and certainly not the narrative…hello. you hear me, you living an illusion if you can’t see the obvious.
Why would he give up tech he controls the message and narrative from? What do you think life is, fair?
On second thought, forget the internet
Hello…you don’t fight them where they are strong, you fight them where they cannot fight with tactics and means they don’t have. They own the high tech electronic battlefield of ideas and concepts because the own the battles pace. If you want to win, you have to fight them where they are weak, turn their technology strengths into weaknesses and handicaps. You can’t win people you can’t reach, but this beyond winning minds.this is now resource against resource, body against body, will against will.
This is not a video game like Call to Duty, there is no reset no cheat codes no rules no fairness no referees. People lives are directly ended and destroyed in this undeclared war and don’t you watch the news? Don’t you get it?
This is the beginning. We must create alternative infrastructural resources for promoting the truth. Start nationalist versions of PayPal, Gofundme, and new social media etc
Lol just reminding everyone that we’ll be living off the land once again and everything will be as it was.
Agreed. Funny you said nationalist and i said red pill versions above. Sad day when being pro america gets you kicked out of businesses
This is a very good idea, but I am afraid that they ( the intolerant left-wing nuts who preach tolerance to others only when it suits their agenda) will also shut gofundme down or threaten it not to do business with the alt-right.
It’s exhausting to listen to the lazy whine about life without all their electric toys and smart phones. There were great lives to be had before, but the weak minded cannot grasp a life beyond their insanely lazy one with all the tech crutches. God forbid they have to turn a page in a book or use a pencil to write an actual listnor receipt. The end of the world if they had to learn a life skill like gardening or sewing and rip up in some clothes. Too stupid or too illiterate to actually communicate beyond retarded emojis….what’s really redeeming about today’s society? Not a fucking thing.
Fossil fuels are a scam, they won’t run out in our lifetime. They say that to drive up the price. It would probably be better if they did though and we could have better sources of energy.
No European country has free speech.
Had the communication of 2017 been available in 1917 ww1 would never have happened.
The EUSSR……
P2P + Blockchain. That’s the future. LBRY and Bitcoin.
Electronic money, zeros and ones in computers, electrons over wires…meaningless. you don’t own them or control them you don’t own or control the means they are used or created….an illusion. Nothing more. You can’t eat them, can grow them, can’t drink them. Absolutley notional value just like paper dollar bills and euro coins, they have value only because people accept them to have a value. At one time shiny stones and seashells were money. Cognitive dissonance that cannot see beyond invisible walls created in your own minds, and yet your world exists inside of boundaries and value your own mind creates.
Brilliant analysis. The cryptotoys will disappear when the deep state wants it to. It only has to create a million forks of bitcoin. Or take it over by destroying all the servers where the blockchain is hosted save one.
except the Charlottesville rally got shut down by police…
Yeah, orders passed quickly down the chain of command: Soros > McAuliffe > head of police.
And McAuliffe’s pals, the Clintons
If push comes to shove, we could build a new form of Internet. The infrastructure challenge alone is enormous, but it could at least theoretically be done.
That way only seems viable should our current infrastructure become unusable for a substantial quantity of people, though. If only a few hundred thousand find themselves in the digital equivalent of camps, there’s just no way I can imagine it being done.
right, but who’s ‘we’, whitey?
‘We’ can be anyone. Of course, it would help if at least some of ‘us’ know how networking works.
block chain technology will change the game, think bitcoin model for the web. Adios leftist censorship !
All a blockchain does, by its nature, is provide a log of previous transactions. Something more is needed to really change the way we interact.
like rainbow unicorns ?
I think a P2P communication model, perhaps employing the blockchain technology, is the best bet.
this.
Just brainstorming a bit, if you’ll indulge me:
Imagine a P2P forum and what that could look like. Right now, we communicate with Disqus and Disqus displays what we’ve written to anyone who requests. Instead of this, a chatroom would begin with one or two peers sharing content back and forth with one another, likely cataloged in a blockchain. Additional peers would then connect to these original peers and receive their chain, as well. As the group grows, it becomes untenable to maintain connections to each peer, so an ad-hoc network is formed in which each member is directly connected to only a few peers. Perhaps there are several “master chains” that come together in a way current blockchains do not, allowing the forum to expand and update the remotest nodes effectively without requiring n^2 connections (where n is the total number of peers).
This is the sort of concept that can change the game. There are a lot of holes in this brainstorm, but I think it’s a pointer in the right direction.
Nice ! I’m sure some faggy silicon valley nerd is coding it right now.
What about the deep web. We can figure out something about that.
The conventional method of accessing the deep web (TOR) is compromised for two reasons. First and most immediate, the Tor team had a whole statement about condemning racism and whathaveyou. Second, if detected using Tor the government has declared sufficient cause to monitor all of your communications for an unspecified period (and there is no guarantee that the onion routers aren’t already compromised).
You just invented IRC, brother…
It would be easier to destroy or severely disrupt the current internet rather than creating a parallel system.
If we’re losing control of the internet to our enemies then we should enact a scorched earth policy and bring the enemy with us into a battlefield where everyone is denied the internet.
I can survive. I lived just fine before the internet was even conceived. How many millenials do you think will shit their pants and be rendered useless once it’s shut down?
Not just millennials – everything is tied to the Internet at this point. Meat processors handle their receiving and orders via the Internet, for example – losing the Internet severely hampers local grocers. Utilities are tied to the Internet, as well, so a sudden loss of networking would result in untold utility concerns.
There are a lot more ramifications to losing the Internet than just losing forums, blogs, and videos. It’s honestly something I fear, considering how quickly it has become essential to so many aspects of Western life.
You are completely right. Moreover, it’s hilarious and sad to see that there are a lot of people out there who think destroying original books and shifting completely to paperless records (including historical masterpieces) is the way to go. They are putting mankind one Carrington event away from returning not the Middle Ages but to the Stoneage.
Now that I think of it I wonder if that was not way in which a technological civilization like ours can dissapear…shifting all its records, history etc. to electronic means…
Skynet is still growing
Good ol sabotage. Brilliant!
Skynet?
I love to imagine that we’re not actually the first civilization to discover electronic data storage. I pretend that a lot of the Egyptian artifacts that look like useless junk are actually data devices we don’t know how to use, or Mayan temples used to have some sort of antennas to communicate with one another.
It’s a sobering idea that easily-destroyed or difficult-to-access media is essentially identical to rubbish. Paper decays; hard drives die; languages are lost. A pure shift into the digital world is extremely risky for exactly such reasons.
I think it’s a matter of complexity and overconfidence in the view of redundanceless systems and absence of failsafe schemes. Any moron can backup a written document in the case of rotting paper, thus doing as the monks of the days of yore did with the masterpieces of the classical era. However, who can repair a HD? Who can make from scratch a machine able to read quartz HDs and project the image or print its contents, should a catastrophic event destroy our computer network or a natural event like the Carrington event destroy all the devices outside of a Faraday cage?
This is specially true since all consumer electronics design lack planning for such an occurrence (artificial or natural EMPs…)
There are easier ways with the current tech. We could launch our own weather balloons that provide internet as is used for poor countries.
https://x.company/loon/
You make internet providers into public utilities and prohibit them from denying service to anyone who wants it.
Just like how the water and electric companies can;t turn off your service because they find you offensive, the internet companies shouldn’t be able to either.
I both like and detest the idea.
Consider, if you will, the FCC’s not-too-distant history with radio. We made radio into a regulated public utility under the control of the FCC, and this worked well enough for a time. They ensured that the bands were standardized and kept clean – only one station per frequency.
But this power was eventually used for less-beneficent purposes. All radio stations were required to have equal representation of right- and left-leaning pundits, except those stations that weren’t. Licenses became harder to acquire not simply because the bands were limited, but also because you had to receive particular approval from someone who could very well not like the idea of your station.
Honestly, it’s a hard situation we find ourselves in.
So the government owns the airwaves ?
We need right wing or at least non biased services
Well, this assumes that you’re going to have a regulatory body. I say pass the law, and as part of it have a steep penalty provision. Then allow private citizens to sue to enforce the law. So if your site gets shut down, payday, plus attorney’s fees. That should serve as a big disincentive without the need to put power into the hands of some Washington bureaucrat.
until the repeal of teh fairness doctrine. That was when the exhalted Majarushie was given to us by God and then all the feminists when batshit crazy! Oh those were good days to see them seething and going nuts. Now, when I am listening to them, discretely of course, I can hear them complaining about MGTOW. Oh the irony when they are offended, it is a human rights violation. When I am offended, get over it sonny!
…You called?
Google has its tentacles in the FCC. They know they are a monopoly, and have been greasing the skids for years. I think the government MUST intervene against Google, but it will be difficult to make that happen due to the shield of corruption Google has bought and paid for.
It’s those evil Knotsees that OWN google.
No one in the .Gov wants to lose access to the intel that The Goog serves up on a daily basis.
Correct!
Oddly enough, the Obama-era FCC did just that, and I was opposed on First Amendment grounds. Looks like I should reconsider that and SUPPORT it on First Amendment grounds.
See Supreme Court case Marsh v. Alabama.
Bannon is out, cuckservatives and globalist reign supreme!
Even if you like Trump, his administration has way too much turnover to be a stable environment.
Whether by design, accident, or poor-planning, and while he’s been effective individually, this presidency has been amateur hour. Part of that is the media highlighting things they wouldn’t have with presidents past, but much is self inflicted.
Right. Media will fabricate info against him to begin with because he commits the ultimate sin of thoughtcrime. His administration is giving them more than enough ammo to use against anyone that doesn’t align with the libtards. That’s my issue.
In the past I’ve had the pleasure of gaining personal insight in to how some of his businesses were run. He seems to be running the White House much the same way.
None of the internal dissent, leaks, and staff turnovers are surprising to me. I’d be surprised if things were stable – it would be out of character for Trump.
There’s a degree to which the instability is a good thing. Lots of advisers serve multiple presidents, which is part of the reason policies seem to persist between them regardless of their backgrounds.
There could well be more to this than meets the eye.
probably less…
Aye. I think it’s just a condition that he fell into and has worked for him, as opposed to a planned philosophical management style.
Aye, that makes sense. Just looking for sun behind the clouds, I guess.
True, Team of Rivals shows that Lincoln believed in this theory too. But Lincoln could listen and analyze superbly. Trump’s brain is like a twitching dead frog.
I wonder if any president, if subject to the unrelenting media attack Trump is, would appear equally as stupid.
I’d say the unrelenting attacks bet/ Trump and media go both ways, wouldn’t you?
no
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that is getting a little worrying.
I take it BB is in total meltdown mode?
No idea, I’m at work
Bannon is going to turn on Trump. Think final scene of Reservoir Dogs. That’s how this dysfunctional administration is going to end. There’ll just be General Kelly and a couple interns left hiding under the copier after the smoke clears.
Next on the chopping block: Gorka/Miller.
Get off Facebook.
In RAH-sha…..
How do you know your girlfriend is too fat?
When she fits into your wifes clothes.
That’s an AWESOME MGTOW joke if I had ever heard one. One of our techno geeks just came in and told that to me. We all laughed too loud, too UN PC like. Does that fall under “gore” to get me banned? I’m single due to divorce, so is that hate speech toward simps?
They won’t let her into the local Chinese buffet?
Fun fact: buffet restaurants often average the cost of their foodstuffs. I hold myself somewhat responsible for destroying a local Chinese buffet by eating only the pricier stuff and making that my one meal of the day ($10 per entry, $50 in food by the time I left).
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I demand my all-you-can-eat rights!!!!
Am picturing the fatties being kicked out after 4 hours and waddling back to their cars..
The tag on her underwear says ” proudly produced in a sustainable manner by Omar The Bedouin Tentmaker”?
“I’m so happy it’s my birthday today darlings! The internet is all mine now and I’ll be here forever and ever. . . ”
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“Today’s story is about the beaver that could”. And sorry for being late today kids. Me and the senator got in an argument early this morning over what color to do my hair today.”
(I’m tippy toeing this comment into the subject of Nationalism making a tumultous comeback. We have to be sneaky with the comments. Circle the wagon and then pounce!)
“Mary Had a Little Clam”? This must be transvestite story night? Sick! Little girl is like, WTF?
brilliant! the inquisitive little girl is thinking “has that smurf got a package?”
What is this thing that is corrupting infants?
Great idea, McGoo! I’m sure there’s lots of people over here to check out the ‘Nazis’, lets red-pill them while they’re here.
So according to the left we have to accept this guy is a woman, at least for a few hours while he has his little outfit on and wig. What a farce!
Notice the looks of bemusement on many of those childrens’ faces. One boy has his head completely turned away. Something tells me that whatever that clown-wig is selling, they’re not buying.
What’s worse are the supposed parents who willingly allow their children to be exposed to this degenerate garbage.
I hope this event is less Kristallnacht and more Unternehmen Wacht am Rhein on the left’s part. I guess the only way to fight back is too stop using those services and/or install adblocks to prevent their revenue. Maybe if their bottom line takes enough of a hit, they’ll realize that stifling free speech in America has consequences. They’re demonetizing anyone who isn’t far left anyway, so it’s not like we’ll hurt our own.
This ploy to silence all dissent will never succeed in the long run. It may encapsulate most of the first world for a hundred years, but it will fail in the end. Just because technology is different doesn’t mean that people are. See what happens when they try to stop me from talking to another person on the street, no phones, no computers, nothing, just two voices. Two becomes four, and so on. The more things change the more they stay the same. Revenge is only in human nature, and it will come for those who seek to control and usurp this world.
We’ve never seen purges as rapid as the electronic deletions. Total wipe and silence, no dialogue or rebuttal. The memory is too fresh to forget. The organic brain doesn’t wipe so quickly.
This is 1984 levels of insane, you know?
Of course it’s not the jews. It never is.
You only have FREDOM OF SPEECH when you don’t have to ask permission to use it from someone else through their software and hardware..
Not to mention that they can’t fully control the internet the deep web still exists.
Don’t think you have to worry about it lasting a hundred years, within months of an attack on free speech there will be workarounds..
One of the reasons I started commenting here was that the ridiculous Nazi/Jew/WN crap so prevalent elsewhere in the manosphere seemed to be minimal here.
I’d rather change people’s minds than silence them.
a couple of weeks ago you were right behind that “ridiculous crap” weren’t you?
which crap, now?
the ridiculous Nazi/Jew/WN crap.
I’m confused. are we talking about censorship anymore?
we are talking about jammyjaybird’s raison d’etre (ici)
….sorry to interrupt….
What do you think of the above post ‘Bem’.
talking of purges, Bannon is now out
lol Matt Forney wants us to really tone it done criticizing and revealing our (((oppressors))). For Matt to retain his flow of money, he realizes he has to suck Jewi$h cock, just like every other celebrity, mainstream artist, political persona, and TV / internet personality. Another reminder of Voltaire’s quotes is needed:
“If you want to know who controls you, look at who you are not allowed to criticize.”
“So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men.”
We’re not allowed to criticize blacks. Do they control us?
Matt Forney are you trying to deceive your readers?
Above there seems to be a dishonest statement.
‘Baked Alaska and James Allsup were also banned from Uber after they were kicked out by their driver for supposedly being “racist.”
Now, that struck me as an obvious lie.
The number of people who can identify ‘alt-right’ figures on sight is minuscule. Some of their neighbours will not know who they are.
How can you expect people to accept they are being persecuted by random Uber drivers on sight?
So I followed your link.
‘Uber permanently banned white supremacist James Allsup from its ride-hail platform on Saturday after an Uber driver in Washington, DC, kicked him and alt-right leader Tim Gionet, better known as Baked Alaska on Twitter, out of her car for allegedly making racist remarks.’
I have no idea who this writer is and so I cannot assume he hasn’t read his own links and made an honest mistake.
After all, it struck me as near impossible taxi drivers were ‘persecuting the alt-right on sight’
He is lying when he implies people are being persecuted for ‘….supposedly being racist’.
That’s not true.
These two men were so stupid that they couldn’t keep their mouths shut during a journey in a cab.
The driver wants the fare, right?
So, it makes sense to assume she isn’t just making things up to ensure she gets no money.
I hope the writer can clarify his report or correct his error.
People are NOT being persecuted for ‘being racist’.
That’s not true.
Since you know all about the incident, what were their exact words in the cab that set the driver off?
I would like to know so that I can assess what happened as well.
No-one should be denied any service of any kind for ‘being racist’.
I cannot see how that could occur,
I wrote…….
‘The driver wants the fare, right?
So, it makes sense to assume she isn’t just making things up to ensure she gets no money.
I hope the writer can clarify his report or correct his error.’
That’s where I stand.
The writer made this incorrect statement about ‘for being racist’.
Again………..
‘I hope the writer can clarify his report or correct his error.’
It’s his claim in his article & the link he uses contradicts his account.
Hope that’s clearer.
This is when you start to appreciate the freedom anonymity provides.
Says who?
and realize the downfall that ANYONE and EVERYONE who hates your ideas and posts will make sure to shut you up by denying you the usage of it.
well we’re not really that anonymous, except to other proles
the cloudfare CEO quote doesn’t seem complete. As far as I understand it he was making the point that he shouldn’t have the power to shut down a website – that he believed it wrong, but that he felt compelled or pressured to do so.
If that is so, it is the nature of the pressure to comply that needs to be examined. Personally I don’t give a shit about the Daily Stormer beyond the fact that the fact it has been effectively forced off the internet is worrying form a free speech point of view
Didn’t he say something to the effect of, “It was an arbitrary decision?” The way he phrased that is telling – it says that a decision was made but also that he was able to make it unilaterally and without requiring justification.
That struck me as an odd choice of words.
I can’t remember where I heard it. It sounded as though he felt he had to do something that he didn’t want to do on principle but felt he had to either because he was under pressure of because the DS had crossed a line (surely not, the DS would never do that?). My impression was that he was saying it was too much power for one man to have.
That could just be a rationalisation of something he was quite happy to do though
Paypal banned vdare and barenaked islam. I think barenaked islam needs to learn the attic’s of Jihad watch and Religion of Peace to continue to post articles about muslim violence.
Do you think the people doing this cares about something as insignificant (to them) as human rights and personal freedoms?
did no-one hear me. Bannon is out. What does Matt Forney think about that?
Is Trump going to come out as an uber globalist?
We had a bit of a small discussion about it when La’darrell Luthor brought it up below (apologies if I misspelled the name, mate).
ok, thanks, I’ll check it out. I looked but couldn’t see anything.
Dindu nuffin wrong
He actually resigned Aug. 7, and declared he’s going “medieval” on Trump’s enemies “now”.
yeah, I read that. I would like to believe they’re still a team, and that it’s all part of a cunning plan. Except so far Trump is still very much on the defensive at least on the surface. Trump is inscrutable and unpredictable. It’s difficult to know where he really stands, but I imagine we will find out in due course
Need to cash in all these Disqus upvotes before I get the boot.
I dont even know anymore if a truly free society is possible. It seems the natural tendency of any community is either moving toward Authoritarian Left or Authoritarian Right. I rather live under the latter.
Become an individualist. I’ve just detached myself from everything.
You have my sympathy, but that is an illusion, and part of the reason the left wins: You are an island, they are a continent, you are alone, they are the Collective. They actually destroy the concepts of religion, nation, race and family mainly to render you a detached, helpless sack of meat.
You can live well and pretend self immunity from all the insanity… Until they come for you (collecting, forbidding, forcing, silencing, impoverishing and jailing).
Or fill your country with immigrants who want to poor acid on women.
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Wait until the system blocks crimethinkers from buying groceries:
“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ffc9bef446436b56e64ff8d249933fc07a73fda4085fb4f7971faa0e50905b7.gif
Jack Chick booklets and Sgt. Rock comics. Ah me youth.
Jack Chick was the greatest. From his “1001 ways to go to hell” collection:
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Well, the communist left is simply doing what it does best. I fail to see why this is so surprising.
This was inevitable and predicted a long time ago.
If we survive this wave of censorship we will be unstoppable.
This is the last step before assassinations.
Then civil war.
You have been warned.
We will liberate the Earth from Globalists or destroy human civilization for aeons.
Sad but true.
How is virtue-signalling against nazis working out for all ?
Some spent time infighting thinking by attacking Nazis they will disociate from them. But to the enemy both Jordan Peterson and Anglin are the same.
We are all Nazis now. The enemy sees no difference. We didn’t choose this but we will have to deal with this. As one. No enemy to the Right.
Those who are against Globalists are all friends. Now or never.
What is the reason why political dissidents cannot set up their own platforms? You can setup your own webserver and host your own domain, then buy a DDoS protection software such as Checkpoint to protect it from DDoS attacks. I know there is significant work and some cost in doing such.
The existing platforms (CloudFlare, etc.) exist to serve a market, mainly businesses, that do not want the hassle and expense of doing this work themselves. However, if you are a political dissident, independently DIY seems to be the best way to go.
Build your own internet too? The only way to get around politically correct corporations is the dark web, at which point you might was well be sending newsletters through the mail
Is there a dark web access app for my burner lollipop phone?
Well, you already stated the reason. Political dissidents are usually not loaded. Setting up a reliable and secure server to service potentially millions of users daily, most dissidents can barely make a living.
There’s other traffic on the web besides HTTP. Couldn’t any of that be utilized? Like newsgroups, for example.
I keep telling everyone on the right they need to STOP disavowing! Don’t support.. but DO NOT disavow.. just don’t say anything. Use the same answer all the time… I do not support political violence from either side. And leave it at that. DO NOT, I repeat.. DO NOT disavow or mention any on the right because this will a) Not get you ANYWHERE, and b) you embolden the left. No matter what you say, no matter how hard and often you disavow, they will STILL call you a Nazi until the end of time. PERIOD.
So STOP with the virtue signalling. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE YOU!
This is something we all need to learn.
It is called “Salami Tactics” and was used everywhere where the Communists took power.
They made you disawow everybody to your right untill it was only you remaining, then off with you to the Gulag.
Salami tactics sound absolutely delicious!
It’s just like how supplicating to a woman makes you her expendable tool. Also being nice to the left puts you in their friend zone but you’ll never fuck the left. The true nature of women must be understood to understand the left.
I’ve been saying that for years. But I’ve amended my stance to supporting violence against the left. They’re not going to treat with us, ever, and they’re not intellectually capable of having a reasoned debate.
So they have to go. Peaceably or otherwise.
I don’t see the answer as getting the hardcore leftists on our side… More like getting neutrals
you’re probably right in the main, but it’s worth remembering that extremism has been extended as a concept beyond actual physical violence. It includes words, and increasingly incorrect attitudes. It’s worth thinking hard about how to combat that kind of totalitarian creep
It’s more tricky than that. I agree with what you’re proposing, but with a slight condition: Distance. The alt right is still a new movement, in process of shhaping itself. Neonazism, as white supremacism, are old, discredited and exhausted ideas. Association with them might kill the alt right still on its babysteps.
Alt righters must be clear and vocal about what the alt right is bringing anew. Basically, the relationship with *old* ideas must be one of distant, neutral indifference. The left profits both from consented demonization and from quagmirish insults. Clear the swamp, eh!
DeNiro’s Jimmy Conway in Goodfellas:
Keep your mouth shut and don’t rat on your friends
So the Jews are purging the Internet from everybody who is even remotely a right-winger, and our answer should be “do not criticise the Jews”?
FUCK THAT!
Gas The Kikes, Race War Now!
The Jews need to get over themselves.
Alex Jones claimed that the Charlottesville murder rampage – was a false flag i.e. that Fields wasn’t really a nazi, but an dupe of some sort. It’s an absurd claim, and I am sure completely false, but it speaks to a kind of truth, namely that acting like a murdering nazi or white supremacist calling for the final solution plays right into the hands of the people supposed to be at the receiving end. The same is true when you say “Gas The Kikes, Race War Now”. That’s the realisation the alt right, across the board is slowly coming to. I don’t know how powerful jews are collectively or how enmeshed within the establishment, but I do know one thing, the moment someone says “Gas The Kikes, Race War Now” they are in a stronger position that they were before.
Unless you’re on their ‘conveyor belt’ already. The west is being very systematically and methodically rendered and dissolved. Western communities are demoralized, LGBTQified and nuclear families are processed and butchered into atomized parts. It’s all very systematic and whether or not you scream a warcry or remain silent, you failed to escape and avoid the CONVEYOR BELT!!
I’d say that’s a little bit on the garish side, but I think it’s true that society is being transformed from above, in a way that is highly antagonistic towards more traditional forms of life, and without any kind of genuine consent or consultation with the people whose lives are affected. I would imagine that the elites and social engineers at the helm would see themselves as bettering society rather than destroying it but I would very much like to know where exactly they see their mandate as coming from.
Europeans are not the mule breed to be easily enticed into being penned up and hog farmed whereas for the indigenous and aboriginal cultures, an offer of the plantation state terra reforming of their homeland is a step up and enticing. But Europeans just bustled with too much creativity and culture. They couldn’t be enslaved easily unless they were first rendered into mongrel swill. Jews couldn’t be enslaved either unless they were first circumcised. Circumcision is ‘castration-lite’ which still allows the subjects to breed. Muslims castrated their black slaves because there was ample supply but Jews would quickly vanish if castrated.
Westerners are being subject to the full regimin of brain screw because that’s what it takes to bring them to heel. It isn’t easy throwing a sheet over western man and that’s why such massive efforts are underway to toxify every aspect of environment for the westerner. It seems the ‘elites’ really aren’t much above the western man in stature. To subvert the western man has all been a cheating game with the elites. We’re that much a different and higher breed of cat. We all need to embrace once again ‘BBB’ – – our BEARDS, our BRAINS and our BEEFSTICK (or balls). Maybe ‘BBBB’. The ‘renaissance right’ and ‘BBBB’!!
you certainly have an interesting literary style. I’m mixed race myself, so only half european. Still I am sorry to see civilization reduced in this way. I do think our elites are transforming society in an illegitimate way, and the change is so rapid and often involves such reversal of tradition and institution its hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. It is about control, but it is also about shaping humanity into a different and I think lesser model. On the other hand it is only under attack that one learns what endures and what has value perhaps
More likely he was a scared kid having his car surrounded and attacked by an angry mob and did what any rational person would do in that situation: gun it till you get out of the crowd or hit something solid. When you hit something you gun it backwards until you get out or again hit something solid. And so on.
Until there’s evidence to the contrary we might as well assume it’s exactly as it seems, and that what we have here is a guy with nazi views, who when push comes to shove was prepared to commit violence and murder in pursuit of those beliefs. His youth may well be part of that, but it isn’t an excuse
When those antifas jumped on the back of the car, baseball bats handily ready, the backup light was on. They get a Darwin Award.
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Its entirely posssible that it happened exactly as the mainstream media declared. After all they are due to get the truth on a story by shear luck any day now. However I prefer “innocent until proven guilty” with regards to his motivation. Now had he repeatedly gone back and forth over pedestrians while yelling ALOHA SNACKBAR or whatever the leftist nazi equivalent is then that would be enough to convince me.
I agree that his profile is almost a gift to the antifas, but until there’s some kind of evidence supporting the possibility that he isn’t what is claimed to be, I think the right thing is to assume that he really is a nazi thug and killer. I have often assumed that online nazis etc were hasbara or whatever, and while sometimes they do seem to be that, most of the time they just turn out to be nazis.
Even a nazi can panic when surrounded by thugs beating on his car. Anyway it doesn’t matter as he’s been crucified in the public eye already. What really happened isn’t anyone’s priority at this point.
of course, anyone can, and it could be that, but equally I don’t think we should start apologising for him or give him the benefit of the doubt prior to a trial (beyond the formal presumption of innocence prior to conviction). I think everything to do with those events should and will be scrutinised very carefully, but sometimes things are as they seem. Kessler, though, is likely a different matter
Excuse me, but yes…….Charlottesville was a false flag event. You do realize that Jason Kessler (leader of “Unite the Right”) was an Obama supporter, right? Both sides of the conflict were controlled opposition. I don’t have time to go into detail, but I’ll just say this:
“Nazis” do not vote for black Presidents.
Edit: The Charlottesville event occurred on George Soros’s birthday.
I am not aware of the details of what Alex Jones claimed beyond the fact that he said there was a false flag involved. I assumed he was referring to the murderous car attack by Alex James Field.
My take on it is, that Charlottesville as a whole was likely a set up, or at least that there was a trap involved, and the attendees walked right into it, but I don’t personally think there was anything ‘fake’ about the murder itself.
I’ve heard the claim that Kessler suddenly converted to a rightest cause / white nationalist cause or whatever, and was a democrat etc as recently as december 2016. I don’t know anything about him beyond that, and had never heard of him before charlottesville, but the idea that he might have converted to the cause in order to subvert it from within seems perfectly credible. I don’t think it should be assumed but should certainly be investigated.
My point then would be to distinguish between the Charlottesville gathering as a likely set up and leftist ambush on the one hand and the idea that the murder itself might be a false flag, which I think would be to venture into dangerous territory. Who knows, perhaps there is such a thing as ‘crisis actor’ who put on terrorist shows to keep the narrative going. I just think it’s incredibly dangerous to assume such a thing, and potentially corrupting to. There is an almost kneejerk assumption amongst some dissident sites to assume that any major event is a false flag, and a simulation, with the implication that people who may have been murdered, family’s who may be bereaved are effectively assumed to be faking it somehow.
Ultimately there is information and there is disinformation, and there is a need to keep the two separate
There’s nothing that Trump can really do about this particular issue except maybe have the justice department use Antitrust laws against obvious monopolies like Google and Facebook.
This is an entirely new frontier, and in many ways legislation hasn’t been written for this yet. But it’s clear these tech firms need to be brought to feel, because they’re almost needed to live now, for anybody, and if they can just ban you, they almost cut you off from the economy.
TFW when your shitskin proprietor is a more consistent supporter of White western civilization than you.. https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/matt-forney.jpg
ROK will likely be next unfortunately to be attacked by silicon valley, are there any strategies to mitigate that?
As a defense against hacking, not Silicon Valley, I’ve heard it said it’s useful to note the IP addresses of your favorite sites and use that to direct the browser. However it looks like RoK is part of the cloudflare network (for performance & security) which doesn’t allow direct IP access.
“Error 1003 Direct IP access not allowed”
(The name “returnofkings.com” gets translated to an IP “104.24.14.83” through a process of DNS lookup, which can get hacked.)
Completely predictable. The left utterly fails at discussion and ideas, so the only thing left for them is jack boots and censorship. It’s too bad that conservatives haven’t busied themselves building an alt-internet over the past few years.
Well that’s what socialists, be they Nazis or communists, do.
I hope you faggots are next.
why? We are good upstanding folk, and a credit to our communities
Yeah because you’re totally untouchable right? There could never be any blowback, right?
You should refrain from using that derogatory term that’s associated with your brethren because you wouldn’t want to offend them.
I`ve always felt that it`s a mistake to accept the standard narrative that the Nazis where somehow right-wing.
It`s really rather absurd, since Hitler was a socialist revolutionary.
If you label National Socialist politics right, with it`s all encompassing Government, Public schools, healthcare, public pensions etc, where do you fit people like Jefferson, Paine…well any of the founding fathers really. Or the like of Bastiat, Von Mises, Hayek. Or Ron Paul and Nigel Farage for some present examples.
Can you really be a big government guy and still right?
I don`t see how that`s possible.
#Hitler was alt-left.
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Nice try, but:
1. Capitalism isn’t perfect (that quote is quite reasonable)
2. Almost all the political movements of the last century were concerned about alternatives to an increasingly failing system; some to the right, some to the left.
3. Nazism was a complex creature of its time, a leftist centralized (corporatist) economy, in a hierarchical, antiequalitarian society (right). Overall, it was a center movement, not extreme at all, it made sense to the majority, and it won the elections.
4. Socialism isn’t exclusive of the left, as capitalism isn’t exclusive of the right, quod erat demonstrandum.
5. Translating the right/left divide to different times and geographies is a tool of the left, to ‘divide and conquer’, since pretty much the french revolution..
I don’t think you know what left and right mean. They are economic positions. Left is communist and right is free market with no regulation. That is exactly what left and right are.
No, in fact, they are social and political (jacobins/girondins), and later, really almost 150 years after they were invented, they became economical as well, because of communism.
Anyway, in ages when (((some tribe))) was irrelevant, deciding your politics based on economy was a ridiculous idea. The left changed that.
The fact that you think that makes me wonder what are Americans teaching in their schools/do you even know what conservatism is?
I like to think of gov and economy as totally separate. So a “right or left economy” is something Ive never actually thought of before, although I understand what he’s trying to say.
But aside from government, and economy, there is now a MORAL left and right. You can see it when people, considered extreme liberals, want extreme laws for censorship. They are called lefties, although they are asking for authoritarian rules!
I was not making arguments for or against Capitalism or Socialism,
I was simply stating that the (far) right has become synonymous with Nazism and Hitler. This association can not be justified if you study the history of political, but in particular economical ideas.
And that the right of today should not accept the notion that Nazis were right.
Socialism might not be exclusively to the left, but it`s certainly much more left than right. And Nazis are today considered extreme right. Remember that their policies are eerily similar to those of modern day left parties. At least with economical and most social issues.
I agree with your fifth argument, but if “we” say nothing they get away with it.
You’re totally right. Nazism was never extreme right, that was a solid fact in their time. They colluded with Von Pappen’s party (aristocratic extreme right, from the center, Zentrum), and henceforth they were branded the “popular extreme right”, a marketing maneuver to empty traditionalist opposition. With that, they attracted a lot of brain and money which they would use to win the elections and then dump as they gained power.
But you need to see, putting nazism in the extreme right is convenient to a lot of people:
1. Center, as they portray “extremes” as murderous, and themselves as virtuous
2. Left, as they use nazism to shame, harness and destroy the right
3. Neonazism, as they capitalize the exclusive of the political spectrum (if they had true concurrence from healthy traditionalist movements, they’d have already extinguished)
Exactly. Nazism and communism are inbred siblings of one another.
I and a few others predicted this a few years ago and think there will be an internet tax and maybe a internet licence down the road. (to track you and bill you no matter what IP you use?)
Don’t be surprised if a few of these organization or the gov’t add on a security tax to help pay for more monitoring to keep people, comments or sites banned and they will use hate speech as an excuse to ban anything they don’t agree with.
When one door closes another opens. A lot of sites will have to be hosted in foreign lands and new platforms will have to be built.
This is history repeating itself….
Just because the media gatekeepers are out of work they think they can barge into the internet and take over. We were here first.
Don’t forget to mention Loomer doxing family members, like Enoch’s mother. And firing Faith for an interview
was gonna write a news alert article for this, but you did me one better Mr. Forney. Excellent!
I would recommend you all become familiar with and learn to use bitcoin and other crypto-currencies. Paypal and VISA will not allow merchant accounts to people whom the deem questionable.
This censorship business is not limited to the alt-right. I order a pharmaceutical compound (for head hair regrowth) from an international pharmacy. I do this for cost reduction and to avoid MD’s (MD’s can be hazardous to one’s heath). Despite having used the particular pharmacy for over 15 years with no problem whatsoever (based in Hong Kong), they lost their merchant account late last year due to (I suspect but am not certain) due to a Portland-based NGO. This NGO, without any complaints from customers such as myself has apparently decided to self-point itself as a “policeman” of on-line pharmacies.
This issue is not limited to political “extremism”.
No, cryptocurrencies are shit
Right now they’re in quite a bubble, and I would not invest in them. However, they are ideal for use as a method of payment only.
Exactly, they won’t help at all.
Well maybe us right wing groups need to get into the deep web( which for you guys who don’t know it’s the part of the internet that hasn’t been approved by search engines). This battle isn’t lost, the elites don’t have complete control over the internet like they would like.
Its a war !
Antifragile….
Meanwhile strengthen existing networks and tribes.
RoK minds.com community?
You’re a fucking crybaby like cantwell you fat bald fuck.
There’s a reason the amendments are in the order they appear. When civilized men can no longer talk about their injustices, they turn to violence. This purging will accelerate things, not slow them down.
1A and 2A options are inversely correlated
It just occurred to me that we haven’t heard from “Anonymous” in a while.
Might be a good time for a little targeted DDOS against some of these corporate censors.
According to the media Anonymous has declared war on the alt-right:
Anonymous: “We Are Angry” #OpDomesticTerrorism
However there’s also this
Anonymous: CIA behind Charlottesville MOB
Since anybody with a Guy Fawkes mask can pretend to be Anonymous, who knows.
If you don’t talk about Jews and what they’ve done/are doing/will do, you’re just pissing in the wind.
Why are white nations dying? Well … well … they’re … um … doing it to themselves. Yeah, they just handed over power to leftists. Had a bad day. Just a little brain fart, there. Could happen to anyone.
Yep, apparently all we have to do is firmly place our heads in the sand to the problem and ‘Man up’.
Just keep working harder on being a successful individualist goy and let your Zionist utopia builders take care of the rest.
Be a success, earn more, pay more taxes, fund your own genocide.
Pointing out that the jews are behind every bad thing happening, is just hate speech. Facts are racist.
There are russian hosts on the clearweb that will host child pornography. TOR decided to virtue-signal about the Stormer setting up an .onion, but of course remains neutral about the TBs of pizza, illegal weapon sales, active links to ISIS recruitment, stolen credit cards, assassins-for-hire, fake passports, and the ability to order child sex slaves to your door. But woah, woah, woah now… someone said something mean (and arguably truthful) about Jews? We’re going to have to shut that down!
it took just one death in the real world to enact all manner of free speech attacks..
A bernie-bro tried to gun down multiple people. A libshit professor tried to murder someone by crushing their skull with a lock. At least eight cops have been assassinated by BlackCrimesMatter.
Liberals are incompetent and the jewish media that controls them are unrepentant liars.
I was thinking this. Why not setup servers in other countries and build our own social networks?
I hope white teenage girls in persecuted white-nationalist families start keeping diaries.
You know, that’s the -exact- thing I’m thinking of with this madness. This is Nazi Germany all over again. We’ve already seen people calling for the death of neo-nazis. So the next phase will be labelling people as neo-nazi simply to destroy them. Maybe even kill them if this gets bad enough.
The irony, is the people calling for the purge are in fact the real nazis now.
Time to declare Google, Fecesbook, Amazon, and others as public utilities. Funny that no leftist site advocating violence or racism has been banned.
That’s because leftist sites are right-think. Any other site is wrong-think. Wrong-think individuals are to be de-humanized and no longer have the same rights as the right-think individuals.
Sounds like a plot for some sci-fi story. Except, we’re living it right now. Yay us. 🙂
I don’t think we need to stop criticising jews ,just need to be more tech savvy and create new web platforms the globalist can’t destroy or attack
The enemy is coming after our communication nodes. If the major nodes we visit for the exchange of ideas are shut down in less than a week how will the community find each other again? Does it matter if the community finds each other again?
Will the vanishing of our communication nodes and the fracturing of our community be the wake up call to begin endevours in the meat space? What will those endevours consist of?
If the enemy continues to make us disavow each other how will we muster strength to persist in a fight against an enemy that has an army marching lock-step to one drumbeat without fraying into smaller sub-groups?
We’ve all been talking and exchanging ideas for awhile now on various forums under various handles. We see what happens when we attempted to forge meat space relationships with the ROK meet-ups.
Its time we start asking ourselves and others where we draw the line and what the consequences are when it happens.
Will we miss the flashpoint? Will we recognize it when it happens? Will it be to late to adjust after it occurs and we’re all still looking around as another leader is silenced, another forum is lost or an outright freedom is quietly infringed while we’re muzzled.
I have a lot of questions these days about our position as a movement and the people we place faith in. I don’t pretend to have the answers. I only find solace in personal preparation.
Perhaps its time to begin planning more for tribal formation and counter-intelligence than articles about male fashion and fucking bitches?
I agree whole heartily. We seemed on the winning track….and now its blowing up in our faces. Those who we thought allies are either against us or have just stayed silent. Going from uniting the right, to the right having its own civil war, while our enemies laugh at us and plot our destruction… both physically and spirtually.
I’m unsure of the timetable and how fast or slow things will go from here. As Roosh said “the death seal is broken” its going to get bloodier before it gets better.
Meetups and forming local tribes and units will work, but only for a time. Otherwise…no matter how powerful the tribe is, or how efficent it is in guerilla tatics….eventually we will fall. Either due to superior might, being isolated, or just be out bred.
Tribes can work but only if we find a way to work with other tribes of the right.
As for fighting the decline by having a family…its a double edged sword. Having kids means we live on in terms of legacy and ideals. However having a family makes us vunerable. It gives us a fear in the back of our minds. The enemy has no qualms about killing your family. They hold nothing dear nor care for anyone except themeleves and their hammer and sickle. Rules of Engagement have no place in this coming war.
Of course if our movement and tribes are just single people with no offspring then we may fight…and many of us will die. But if the long game of demographics and ideals is still being played then we need to procreate. Thus I propose that that rougjly half focus on families and the younger crowd (males, females need to have babies) will be the main fighting force.
As for our sources of communication and information gathering and funding being compromised. We need to somehow make our own platforms that need no support from the current internet establishment…but can plug into it seamlessy. Computer programming and web design are not my forte…but Ill have to learn.
Ironically my brother could probably get us well on our way, as he is practically a savant with this stuff. However he is married and has a kid on the way next month. Even if his priorty wasnt on his family ( which is the natural way of things) he and I dont seem to share some of the finer points of politics….thus I can only imagine that should Civil War II come around…we may be divided.
My fear is the enemy is far more clever than we give it credit for. We mistake them for weak sissies because the only face we see are antifa hippies and BLM kids. But they are only the front line shock troops supported by NGO money and logistics that display a professional level of organization.
These Leftist apparatuses are protected by local authorities and seem impervious to federal investigation and prosecution. They control the narrative with the older generation of moderates by legacy media. They confuses and baffle the new generation in grade school and indoctrinate at the college level. Now we see the silicon valley moguls are beginning their phase by silencing us on the internet now that they have consolidated the various platforms of communication. Those not under control are purchased or bullied into compliance.
I don’t put much faith in the internet as a battleground anymore. The Left learned from the 2016 election and will not allow that to occur again. I don’t understand much about how to circumvent the current scourge of online censorship but even if we could what is the end result….more talking?
The Left is physically removing our history, invading our institutions and they have full control over major urban areas. More internet pages on rebel platforms wont stop that.
We need to start getting honest with ourselves and start asking tough questions about our level of involvement and how to protect it from agent provocateurs.
Civil war may be inevitable, but I don’t want to engage because the enemy bated us into it on their terms. Preparation of the battle space, digital AND physical must be realized before words turn into clubs that turn into bullets.
Undoubtedly they are. One doesn’t accquire the amount of money and power that they have pulled together by acting rashly or without serious thought. I can tip my fedora ( just kidding) and say well played…however they have one weak spot that we can exploit.
They like working in the shadows behind enough layers of puppets and camo that they are practically invisable to the layman. The few people who see thru this facade are quickly labled as nutjobs or conspiracy theorists before an adequte amount of people can be swayed with the evidence.
The only saving grace is that enough people are saying this seems off and are investigsting and telling their friends and family. We have passed the point where they can say that we are crazy or paronoid.
Now they have to find other ways to discredit us. Primarly thru villifying us. Either thru false information or pushing us until we react out of anger or fear. Ex. Its never sold as self defense but rather as spontaneous violence.
I agree that the battle is fast approaching where action will replace words. I agree that letting them bait us is ill advised and will lead to our defeat. I agree that we need to prepare. I agree we need better methods of screening people. I agree that always responding to their chess moves is folly. We have to put them on the defensive somehow…just short of sparking civil war/unrest.
Im trying to save our main method of communication and a way to preserve our goals and ideals. We need to communicate with other tribes…even if we go by snail mail or burner phones. However the best tool of communication and organization for us as well as to unplug more people from the lies will be the internet (I know another Matrix ref) as Morpheus said “Most of these people are not ready to be unplugged, the minds of the people we are trying to save, yet many of them are so hopelessy depended on the system, they will fight to preserve it”
The first casualty of war is truth. If we have no secure and safe method of redpilling others and no repository that holds our ideals and doctrine of why we do what we do…the minute we spill blood we have lost the war for the mind (as info wars likes to say) and all that will be rememeber of us is as violent extremists.
Rather then a war between good and evil ( I know evil gets thrown around too much, but that is by design how they degrade meaning of words and the power words hold). We would get a few headlines about civil unrest maybe a brief mention of how we see ourselves as true patriots…and then be lumped into the garbage bin of history. Spoken of with the malice one speaks of Nazis (legite nazis) and terrorists if we make a big enough splash…or simpley forgotten and pushed out of thr public eye…so our views cant get any new eyes or followers…it would be as if we never existed at all.
Look at this Lyft fare from earlier https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/496dd913bfd4be1aaae2f6faf25b3790b0919f0de714fd16a1aa55dfc3376658.png
The left controls all of the media and the internet and the billion dollar companies. No wonder they control it all. I don’t understand why conservatives don’t own companies like Google, amazon, godaddy etc.
The BLM and snowflakes love to chant “No cops, no KKK…”. Who is going to maintain order in their anarcho-utopia? Bloods? Crips? MS-13?
This is a good thing. This is a GREAT thing. Most people will react when their personal boundaries are crossed. When they lose their news sources, their access to various sites and services, accounts, etc. We can talk politics, history, philosophy for hours on end, but most of us are busy with our own lives, and even if you wanted to take action – what can you do? There are no decent parties or organisations to join, hardly any free forums. When they take something away from you they force you to take action and when they have taken away all the opportunities to protect your interests, you start to think of alternatives, to ask the important questions and not just try to patch up this failing civilization until you can retire or whatever.
take the largest object you can hold with both hands and then shove that object up your arse with as much gusto as you can muster
If some of the long time RoK commenters can be banned, why can’t these Google spam trollop posts be removed?
The alternative media is going to have to overcome this blockage. Primarily, they have to get security of domains. This will require first finding domain registration possibly in multiple other countries, to ensure that their sites can’t be taken down. Possibly domain registration companies will have to be set up which are independent.
You need to ruin the social media platforms for everyone, if this is the case. Bring it all down. And its entirely possible. If we are going to shut down ideas for one side, we need to shut down ideas for the other side.
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“Tone down their criticism of Jews”? Very strange comment to make considering the context of the article.
One of the worst fails at the rally, chanting “Jews will not replace us”. Looks really bad.
If you’re aware of what’s happening in Europe, heard of the Kalergi Plan, and listened to Barbara Spectre it makes some sense. To the average, uninformed viewer it seems like a resurgence of Nazi anti-semitism.
Here is Barbara Spectre:
Surely there’s enough brainpower and tech resources among the anti antifa to counter this nonsense . Get off of Facebook, PayPal, and Twitter immediately. Develop nationalist resources and networking facilities to promote the truth.
As long as we use leftist tech resources, we remain vulnerable and indentured to the communists.
A simple conversation is now dangerous. Lena Dunham destroyed 2 flight attendants having a private conversation about trans somethings. The child molester didn’t like what she heard and promptly reported them to their employer. We can only guess what happened to them
The airline couldn’t find anything. It’s just another one of her made up stories for media attention.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/08/04/american-airlines-cant-substantiate-lena-dunhams-transphobic-complaint/
What a pathetic conclusion about “toning down”. The fact that these enemy corporations are doing this just shows we are making an impact. DO NOT TONE DOWN. DOUBLE DOWN and increase the momentum.
Not all of us agree with Nazi symbolism or any of that dipshit ideology. Why should we double down in moronic actions?
These f*cking cowards don’t do anything to stop the spread of radical Islam across their systems.
Fun stuff happening in Boston right now
Looks like Ambrose Kane’s website got purged as well. This is insane !!! They even going after people whose websites have not really attained popularity.
We need protests in front of (((google)))
On the contrary. The actions of the alt-left have only served to give greater amounts of attention to those alt-right outlets who have been booted.
Counterespionage rule #1…..whatever you complain about the most will only grow and succeed.
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But if two gays are denied a “wedding cake” from a little, family owned bakery, the MSM can barely contain their outrage. The level of double standards is breathtaking.
Posting this comment from a McDonald’s, where I have to turn off WiFi because McDonald’s blocks access to returnofkings!
Yeah, they do this periodically.
As long as you don’t talk about the self-Chosen Ones, since they obviously have nothing to do with anything.
Please continue the purge. Make people frustrated enough that they lash out. We only need 15% of the country to overthrow them.
Got to thank the idiot white nationalists in Charlottsville for this, the social media network was a great way to get the word out for the conservative movement. Now since they mixed conservative with white nationalist groups, the movement is critically wounded.