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The High Cost Of Working 40 Hours A Week

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I recently took on a month-long project that served as a corporate job simulator, a full decade after quitting my microbiologist career. This short project was a powerful reminder how modern work is incompatible with human contentment.

During my project, I woke up every day at the relatively reasonable time of 8:30 a.m. to be at “work” at 9:00 a.m. I then had to pay attention, focus, cooperate with others, and do mentally intensive tasks. This project required five hours of solid work a day, which translates to an 8-hour a day office job that includes downtime and extended breaks.

The first side effect I experienced was having practically no thinking ability left over after work. It was extremely difficult to do my own writing—my brain simply didn’t want to cooperate. I vegetated endlessly in front of YouTube and Twitter, whereas usually I’d get bored of them relatively quickly.

Secondly, I realized that my unique male brain is not designed to pay attention for prolonged periods of time in cooperative environments. I did not want to sit down continuously for hours, wait my turn to speak, and pretend to be “nice” to others. I also saw the females present not as my intellectual equals—even if they were smart—but as fodder for sexual fantasies that gave me distracting boners. The women seemed to greatly enjoy this environment, probably because men treated them with great respect just because they were women, regardless of their intellectual contributions.

Thirdly, the work environment created so much inner tension that I strongly ached for doses of pleasure in the form of alcohol, coffee, sugar, or masturbation. I successfully quit coffee for the three months prior but now I craved it daily. I’d masturbate after lunch instead of wait until the late evening. I sought out sugar and other carb-based foods far more than usual. I also allowed excuses of fatigue to decrease my gym routine. The main ways my body wanted to relieve work tension was through actions that are likely to cause obesity, decreased muscle mass, and other forms of body degradation.

Lastly, I became more anti-social. Spending so many hours with my co-workers used up all my social fuel for the day. Afterwards, I had to stay silent and alone to recover. I didn’t want to talk to any girls, even if I was horny, and in the rare occasion I did manage to flirt, it would fall on the weekend when my tank was partially replenished. My social life was greatly harmed during a peak summer season when I should’ve been out most nights making big moves.

This experiment was disconcerting because it made me realize how fragile my energy really is. Work used up all my daily stores of focus, willpower, creativity, and extroversion, leaving almost none for my own projects and goals. I temporarily gave this project my lifeblood and in exchange I received a narrow benefit and the slothful need to lounge on the couch while snacking on munchies.

It makes complete sense to me why, after quitting my job ten years ago, I did not consider resuming it, even when my income was at poverty level. Leaving that job unlocked bountiful energy that I devoted into writing, internet projects, and basic life enjoyment. Working again would destroy that. Even if you have a job that is not physically taxing, it may be creating enough fatigue and tension that your body is demanding release through perverted leisure, alcohol, and unhealthy food, hence the typical pattern of working all week only to get wasted on the weekends.

We have to ask if we were designed to work as much as is expected by society, especially upon realizing that the 40-hour work week was a random compromise between government, trade unions, and factory owners during the Industrial Revolution that aimed to keep the slaves from being worked to death or outright revolting. When you’re in your early 20’s and full of energy, it’s possible to work even more than 40 hours a week while also socializing and pursuing your own hobbies, but as you age, you’re sure to enter the “I’m tired” zone and have to essentially dedicate your life to your job. Based on my month-long experiment, I believe men who don’t love their jobs are sacrificing more than just their time for what amounts to material reasons that are not necessary for survival.

I resumed my old ways as soon as the job ended. I woke up later, started writing again, took random bike rides when the sun was out, and resumed socializing with beautiful women. Without any financial goals or people to impress, I have to work just hard enough to keep the lights on, which is certainly not 40 hours a week.

If I ever do enter dire financial straights and have to work a normal job, I already know I’ll be scheming from day one to find a way out, or seek seasonal work in the form of a music band roadie or cruise ship bartender. A job is just a means to living an enjoyable life, not the end itself, but when you work a full time job, it becomes that much harder for your life to be about anything else.

This article was originally published on Roosh V.

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114 thoughts on “The High Cost Of Working 40 Hours A Week”

  1. One interesting little tidbit I picked up from a therapist a long time ago was that primitive man, ie. hunter-gatherer pre-farming only needed on the average about 17 hours a week to “Make a Living”. I assume hunting, gathering, building huts, etc. I guess that left lots of time to think his way into an industrial society that usually requires 40 hours a week to “Make a Living”. I can’t vouch for the 17 hour number but it sounds about right.

    1. “hunting, gathering, building huts, etc.”
      All more fun than sitting at a desk stressing about how you worded an email.

      1. For sure, I’d rather be building huts instead of sending those fucking pretentious yet purposeless emails…

        2. Once you get the huts and boats and shit built, you just go HUNTING AND FISHING. All day, every day. That’s your JOB.
          Sounds good to me.

    2. Now we have to pay for ALL the parasites with their bs around us:
      – Stupid gender studies in universities
      – Wages for stupid politicians
      – Corrupt parties/governments which spend money to please their “clients” and burn money on wars
      – Welfare which promotes degeneracy, breaks families and promotes single motherhood. It’s basically dysgenics.
      (I’m agreeing mostly with Stefan Molyneux on these topics)
      So yeah, if we would get rid of this cancer and would use our technological improvements wisely, we would need to work FAR less, than the 17h a week (and could spent more time with our loved ones and families)

      1. They did an experiment once, where they followed wild animals around and tracked their time spent looking for food, which correlates to us working.
        Grazing animals just eat all day, it’s not running away from them. But all predator animals spent on average 1-2 hours a day looking for food. The rest of the time is spent sleeping, fighting or fucking, or just hanging out.

  2. This is exactly how I feel after a days of work(even if I have an easy day) including commuting it’s a solid 10h a day and after I get home all I can do is throw on some Youtube and put my brain on “idle” till I get tired enough to sleep, rinse and repeat since over 10 years.. this is not life!
    PS. I have no wife nor children which would only make the situation worse by a factor of 2x or 3x

    1. Exactly! I have 2 daughters in middle school. As soon as I get home I start making dinner while simultaneously help them with homework. After dinner and dishes its time to study for vocabulary or history tests. Then showers and bed by 9pm. I have about 1-2 hours by myself before I pass out. Im a single father. The mother turned drug addict and alcoholic after my youngest turned 2.

      1. IKR..too close to how my life went, I just got one graduated out of high school, and another that’s a freshman..mom was a gambling addict, robbed a bank went to prison.

      2. Not only complaining about my life. Their childhood gets stripped away by the school system too. They are at school from 8am 3pm then after school care until 5ish. Then homework and studies till 7-8. What the fuck are we doing here?!

        1. For me childhood ended at 8 and I had to become an adult. It still seems like there’s a part of me missing.

        2. Oh, it’s not so bad for them. Think of the highly fulfilling careers, aka decades in the rat race, their hard work at school will prepare them for.

      3. SUPERMAN
        “The mother turned drug addict after my youngest turned 2”
        WTF is wrong with Gen Y women?
        I’m too old for them but they really shock me.
        Back when I was young in the 1990’s you experimented with marijuana or whatever in college and then gave it up by 23 when you graduated.

    2. He also wanted their hearts when his own gave out.
      ok that might have been his son david

    3. If there was a nation of thinkers, he’d have been hanging from a coarse rope or had been guillotined a long time ago.

    1. They say its bad for you, so it must be good.
      …
      Hey Bob, you should frequently visit the royal palace of chess. Wink wink.

  7. ** BEST WAY FOR A PERSON TO KI.LL THEMSELVES??? **
    .
    Get copper wire, cut into foot long pieces, bend the ends into small hooks and then the other ends into large hooks for a hand-hold.
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    Duct tape fireworks to yourself, invite your friends over for “coffee”, then douse yourself in gasoline.
    .
    Take the copper rods, zip tie them to yourself so they don’t “let go”, then SHOVE both small “hook ends” of the wire into the prongs of an electrical socket at the exact same time and tell your friends to “WATCH THE FIREWORKS!!!” as they look on in horror and drop their coffee cups to the floor.
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    ** IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, I EF.FIN’ DARE YOU TO FIGHT ME!!! **
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    ** Disclaimer: Please DO NOT do this unless you have some sort of HORRIBLE INCURABLE TERMINAL ILLNESS and you wanna go out IN STYLE!!! **
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    1. had law school compatriots who went that route. caught up with them 6 years after graduation, only to be shocked by how old they looked. Greying, fat, etc.

      1. JB
        I left the US in 1999 as I caught a lucky break in my field. Went overseas and stayed away from the Bush-era malaise that followed.
        Was shocked how hard my age group (Now early 40’s and born in the mid-70’s) had to work just to live 60% as well as their parents.
        And yes, they did age badly.

    2. Just started doing 60hrs a week this february. I don’t even have energy on the weekends to do anything. It’s the worst. If it weren’t for my kids I’d move sell everything, live off next to nothing and say fuck this society! Call it an excuse, but when you have kids that you love more then anything in this world come talk to me.

    3. Fellas, these long hours are the worst cockblocker there ever was. I had a brief respite for a year when I changed jobs, but it’s back to slavery. The only saving grace is that my boss will comp the overtime (to some extent). Last year I saw round trip tickets to Iceland from DC for less than $300. I may just bang Iceland, or try Medellín, Colombia this January.

    5. Man I getting damn close! In past four months, in a unit of about 14, six have left the company, another has transferred, and hell the potential new hire couldn’t pass the background check!

  9. And yet there are many people, perhaps the majority, who work 40-hour weeks for 30-40 years of their life, with no problems at all.

    1. Bullshit.
      Have you seen these wage cucks with their high blood pressure, obese and unsightly figures, and all the other ailments that follow the dumb lifestyle choices such normies tend to make?
      These are no paragon of health, and they inspire no one. In fact they do just the opposite.
      When I run into one of these typical cubicle fags I am amazed at how superficial their intellects are. Apart from the meaningless narrow function they execute they have no intellectual depth or distinction. Just the predictable “opinions” and prejudices inculcated into them by the same mainstream mass media these pathetic cucks so obediently consume without critical thought. Lol
      I do not envy you faggots in the least.

      2. I have no inspiration to lower my intellect to attempt to converse with these people, hate how they speak to me as if I’m some dim-witted workman.

      3. Damn man, you act like the majority out there WANT to have the lives they do! Why so much vitriol and disgust? What makes YOUR life so damn good? I’m curious.

    2. Beg to differ!
      My father died on the age 63 just 2 months and half ago because of working 40 to 48 hours a week for 25 years.
      Believe you, me and anyone who works for others for more than 24 hours a week will be dead, or is already dead emotionally and physically. I work 40 hours a week as an accountant and hate it a lot. But I am saving money to start my own business and at least escape from slavery of others.

  10. You guys act like sitting at a desk all day is “work”. I don’t feel sorry for you. It’s not that bad. Suck it the fuck up and carry on.

    2. Working on family farms since I was 8 makes anything less than manual labor seem a ‘break’ before I go to the gym.

  11. I’d love have a 40 hour work week. Owning a business means you work 60 or more, and you’re never really off the clock.

    1. Yeah but owning a business is better than having a job for some 1% who spends half his time sitting in the South France.

    2. ….but you are driven only at the speed of your own ambition and innovation. Driven by a boss or driven by your own passions by being a business owner?…..id pick the latter where you are driven by your own sense of purpose. i work for another because the job is ridiculously easy and requires me to to spend only my time during my shift, my parole starts at the end of my shift, and i try to make it count, every second.

  12. Geez 40 hours a week what is that? The vast majority of corporate jobs now are 50+…..Id kill for 40 hour weeks and 9-5. I leave at 7:15 and am lucky to get home before my kids go to bed…. No family dinners, no evening relaxing.

    2. Quit. Not worth it even if it pays $150K. Your time is the only thing you truly have and it is the most fleeting thing of all. Quit now like there is no tomorrow. Or better yet, keep the job, show up, but quit performing. Enjoy your day. Take longer coffee breaks and longer lunches. Go to the gym mid day. put your body, mind and happiness first. Do not stay late. Go home early in fact.

      1. This is a very good advice.
        Milk the system as much as you can is best and most effective form of protest. And the only one that will benefit you while doing gods work.

  13. Is it that bad, that at my age, 20 years old, I feel so Identified by the description of this experiment?
    Working and studying are killing me, but sometimes i just say, Stop being a little bitch and do the work, and reading stuff like this in one way makes me happy, and in other, makes me feel bad because i feel im just trying to justify dropping all out with no expectation of a higher future
    PD: Working as Mantinence guy, and Studying Energy Engeener
    English isnt my natal lenguage so excuse me if i made any mistake

  14. How then does the average man escape the rat race?
    You need money to live, money to invest in things, but the nature of work is such that you either work 40 hours a week to be paid well, or part time and be paid peanuts.
    What Roosh is saying is spot on. 40 hours a week in a STEM field that doesn’t lend itself to self employment. Too tired to do anything after work. Brain is fried.
    Only good thing is I’m saving money.
    Single unattached Bachelor.

    1. CARLOS One Escape Route
      You can work overseas, depending on your trade.
      Lot’s is written about rubes and proles in the US Rustbelt or UK feeling angry about “Globalists” but these folks back in 1995 when they were 21 chose to get married and then had 3 kids by 25 and were stuck in geographies at the mercy of the winds of economics.
      “Stuck and fucked”
      Or you can hit the road with your degree. You’ll live on the edge for a little while but eventually find somewhere that has a stable economy and then at 30 marry and do all the things that adults do.
      This creates independence from the totally impersonal forces of the globalist market that do not give a shit about the individual anyhow.
      Furthermore you live cheap somewhere-Asia, Eastern Europe. Take up with a local woman.

      1. There are no stable economies, you may think you’ve found a niche for now but just you wait till the next wave hits…

        1. “Found a Niche”
          Marry a CHINESE (From the Merchant class) in Southeast Asia and that will be as stable as you can hope for.
          The only economic truth is that the center of gravity moved to Asia.
          My friends in the US all made their money in real estate in the 1990’s and got way over-extended.
          Wouldn’t want to run into them now.

      2. Round (eye) peg into square hole wont help you, chap. If the fireworks fly over NK you’ll be a long pig in an hungry country.

    2. I work as a software engineer in Eastern Europe full time. The wage sucks, even though it is considered to be high compared to most other jobs, it would take forever to buy a humble house or even just a flat. I really want to build up a passive revenue stream from internet based services or something, but I barely have enough energy to do any sideprojects after work. Still I have it better than most of the country, at least I have the potential to break out of the vicious circle with my know-how.
      I know that I am gonna have break out of the 9-5 or I will go crazy.

  15. I’m in my early 30s. I went to college and absolutely loathed it, although I appreciate how it elevated me out of the blue collar world, at least in the eyes of society. We have a bit of a caste system going on in the states and being stuck in construction jobs and the associated characters was the only thing keeping me going to class. Thing is, I’ve made more money working trade jobs than I ever did as an “educated man” but believe me when I say, trade jobs suck in so many different ways I am truly mystified that anyone questions why more young folks don’t take that route. Shitters full. enough said. The 40hr+ grind for someone else isn’t worth it, and I could never go back. I’ll take living in a one bedroom apartment with an old motorcycle and a crock pot with a smile on my face. Most of us are truly desperate slaves. That ain’t no life.

    1. MIGS
      My Best College Course
      At Mt Pleasant Michigan where my University was located I worked as a short order cook, cafeteria worker, farm laborer.
      I did not realize how miserable and awful being working-class was in the Rustbelt because my parents were white collar professionals-
      First were the former factory foreman. Guys who just assumed they could drop out and work at the local long-outsourced car factor their whole life. Some were 50, 55. They had house payments to make. Trying to get by with a job in Hot N Now.
      Second were the Mexicans who were sending Greenbacks home to built their dream house. All they could talk about was how much they wanted to get back over the border and get out of the awful rust belt with their money earned.
      They were all white trash and half of them were meth addicts-this was in the days before “Oxy”. Every two days I’d hear one of my co-workers was busted for receiving stolen property or possession of Meth with intention or whatever and was going away for 5 years. “Bitch’ed em” was the common phrase-these guys were usually going away for their 3rd offense for the next 30 years.
      Parolees were common and they do not tell you this when you watch a glamorous crime film with DeNiro-the average career criminal has to then work with 17 year old kids in minimum wage jobs. This one dishwasher had been busted as a teenager when he was 17 but his record was so bad he could not get a better job. Another guy was a white collar criminal. He too, washed dishes with college boys and teenagers.
      Then there were the lovely single mothers. Bonnie was to my mind the loveliest-an ex stripper and prostitute cum head cook (Who hated college kids) with two kids whose fathers she had no idea of that had outlived her market value as a hooker/stripper.
      Finally the “alimony” dudes who had some other decent job but had to pay for some kid they had out of wedlock.
      I was 21 then and came to the conclusion-don’t knock up a chick, don’t commit a felony that will prevent you from holding any kind of well-paying job for life, make sure to graduate from college even if it is a worthless degree.
      This was the best part of my education, seeing the proles from the rural white trash part of the state with no skills and mostly GED or high school diploma trying to get by in food service.
      Middle-class sons of white-collar professionals think the working-class is macho and romantic. It isn’t.

      1. GENxile
        Thanks for the reply, I enjoyed the read. I grew up in rural northern California, and due to the small community and a relatively sheltered life, I had to learn a few lessons the hard way. My family was white collar too and whadyaknow, my old man is from a small town near South Bend MI. Unfortunately, he had a stroke right after I graduated high school- of course the universe has no sense of timing, and I ended up getting child supported at age 19 by a girl a little older and a lot wiser than I. She lives 2,000 miles away and is a constant specter in the background- It came as a shock and a financial nightmare that isn’t yet finished with me to this day. I was never taught anything about women or the power they can have over you as a man in todays world. I had to drop out of college as a Junior and I labored as a Union Spark (do not recommend) and doing historical renovations. Greenhouses and Lighting were my last rodeo, but alas, the man is taking that industry from us as well. I learned the real meaning of what it was to “work for the man.” After the State and the Fed is done with you- God rest your soul.
        I can say that my “quantum of solace” is reading ROK and trying to reeducate my beleaguered mind. It has been edifying beyond expectation and the comment section is a true blessing indeed.
        Best of luck out there,
        – Alimony Dude

        1. MIGS
          Bear in mind the 1990’s for white trash was the “meth era”. This had something to do with it.

        1. SNAKE PLISSKEN
          “Tons of money” not in fast food. Or cleaning chicken coups. Or being a steel welder or some outsource profession. Store cashier.
          These jobs are like $10 an hour.
          Truck driver? Yeah, I guess.
          Cop? So-so.

    2. Nothing wrong with blue collar trades, chap. I have three and they’ve served me very well, sure there’s the shit jobs but as you work through them the good ones come along. It’s enabled me to travel and work in many countries, got me my permanent residence in Australia and chicks dig the strong calloused hands and dirty humour that goes along with them. Quick story, had to get my qualifications certified by a lawyer for my migration, smarmy git, turns around asking what it was for. Moving to Australia I tells him, you got no chance he replies. ‘Ive got friends who are doctors, lawyers, accountants who have failed to go to Australia!’ he says. I thanked him and paid him and was on my way, 12 months later I recieve my visa and decide to thank this professional for his help. There’s this shocked look on his gub. ‘If you or any of your professional friends need any help with their emigration, let me know’ I said with the biggest shit eating grin I could muster…

      1. The US does not have the same wages or labor laws as the Commonwealth countries-you’re comparing apples and oranges here.
        Think of the Chinese immigrants to Australia as the US upper-class and the Anglo-Saxons of Australia as the US class below it. One group is a total raw capitalist 1% that does not give a shit about the rest. The US is
        Another words the US is raw non-union free market lowest possible minimum wage. I have an Economics degree and I could make more as a waiter in Australia that as an office drone in the US.
        A buddy of mine immigrated back in 1997 when we were both 23 to work at Argyle (The mines).
        Should have immigrated to Australia with him. The minimum wage is far higher and this is one reason crime, desperation, class resentment, racism and all the other American issues that result from raw free-market American “I got mine and screw you” capitalist economics don’t affect Australia.

        1. Sorry, but that’s not true. Like it or not, we are in a global society now. Australia is part of the commonwealth in name only. Truth is it’s been controlled by the tribe through various agencies for a long time. Harold Holt found out about that the hard way. Although I have never had the urge to travel the US of A, I have made many friends with Americans who have similar backgrounds to myself and I feel I can make the comparison. The truth of the matter is that America is being used as the big stick to achieve the next stage, sucked dry as it were, then it will be disgarded like a tissue after a good hate wank. Aint no room in in our global society for a superpower. No room for desk jockeys, paper pushers and keyboard nerds either. Be part of the twenty percent? You dont think the floaters get tossed out with the rest of the shit bucket? I knew this back when making my career choices as a young man. If you’ve ever watched Star Trek and thought Kirk, Bones and Spock were the heroes, you were wrong. Scotty, the dirty grub spanner wanker saved the day more often than not. The rest could’ve neen replaced by AI, robots etc etc etc. As for the Chinese moving into Australia, go ask Japan how that felt through the 90’s.

      2. SOXMIS
        This is because Australian minimum wage is 4x as high as the US or the rest of the West.
        Typical of a Commonwealth from the Socialist safety net countries (Which are better for average people) not to know that in the US the minimum wage and salary gaps are 10 x what they are in the Commonwealth countries.
        For that matter English blue-collar people have always moved to Australia because the wage is higher. I should have myself, 20 years ago. Had a buddy who did it. American milliner who worked for Argyle and now he’s my age 43 and has a mansion in Perth.
        Check me out…I have a three room bungalow in Southeast Asia and my Chinese-Thai wife has to work.

        1. I didn’t move to Australia for a higher wage, in fact my wages dropped 50 percent on moving there. Working conditions were much worse than the UK. And if you are not a true blue Aussie born ‘ocker, you may as well be from PNG. You need to know what and when to sacrifice when you go into survival mode.

  16. Best job I ever had was a 60 hour week, rotating shifts, 5 over 7. I found my spare time was used more efficiently, my social life was the best Ive ever had, job satisfaction beyond any expectation. The reasons for this were very telling. First I had no manager, supervisor pushing for unrealistic targets, second the job benefitted the public daily, thirdly the pay was excellent, forthly my colleagues all respected each other, working as a team. I dont think its the hours that push you to the brink, its the conditions. Working as a drone with little to no motivation, constant harrassment from the managerial class, back stabbing from workmates trying to get a leg up, monotonous work with no obvious benefits to anyone other than the shareholders/owners. These are hammers that pound you into the ground. Whenever I have a job interview the first question I ask is what management training has my prospective boss got? If they say even one qualification/course I apologise for wasting their time and fuck off asap…

        1. but, I just realised the gist of your question. Im also a mechanic and welder/fabricator. Out of the three mechanics has been the most useful, steer clear of cars, there’s no money in it. When all the drivers have been replaced by these ‘driverless’ vehicles (taxi, bus, truck, train) it will be a long time coming before some robot can service and maintain the vehicles. Look into heavy diesel and electric traction.

  17. SOXMIS
    If I were in Australia where minimum wage is 5 x as high as America I’d quit an office job to pick fruit too.

      1. SOXMIS
        “Never had the urge to travel to the US”
        You’d be wasting your time because minimum wage is higher in UK or Oz.
        “Superpower”
        You mean our crime (Chicongo, Detroit) rates?
        Or maybe you’re referring to US rich standards of living in rural areas (Parts or rural Wales I went to were pretty poor as well though)?
        Perhaps the last time the US won a war back in 1991.

        1. By ‘superpower’ I mean military power. Why do you think the US economy is in such shit state? I know you’re chock-fulla-hate, and I can understand why. But you need to understand there is no ‘safe haven’ as it were, just temporary reprieves for the inevitable outcome. Whilst everyone is arguing about right/left politics, fuck or fight tactics, game, careers,travel, fitness they’re all taking their eye off the ball. That’s when the magician pulls the clincher from his pocket and hey presto, he’s fucked you over. I couldn’t care less about beta/alpha males. I want to be the Omega male. I feel as sorry for most of the guys on this site as I do for all the idiots pushing the agenda. Pull your heads out of your arses guys cuz shit that’s coming aint gonna be fun. Don’t be caught with your pants round your ankles getting a gam off a 7 or an 8.

  18. SOXMIS
    British SAS instructors are sent to actually teach the US military special wilderness survival courses in Seattle, Washington.
    I was not there, but I knew of this in the Army reserves.
    Sure your military is small but it is more selective and for its size more effective.

  19. The article in general is spot on but for the part where you woke up at 8:30 to be at work at 9. There’s the main reason you were drawn to carbs coffee and sweets. Some exercise and a decent breakfast go a long way into energizing your day. For the rest, fuck working for these slavers.

  20. Damn Roosh, write more books man. I would buy them all… you’re my Seth Godin of the manosphere. Thank you.
    Sent from my cubicle

  21. I’ve had the same office job for 11 years and have a lot of the same problems. My job basically involves babysitting a group of adults with developmental disabilities. The main problems I experience are stress and fatigue. I also started getting migraines about 5 years ago and they seem to be worse at the office. I think it has something to do with being around all these bright fluorescent lights all the time. I was 27 when I start d this job, and I’m 38 now. It seems like the older I get, the more draining it is. It’s not even really a challenging job, in fact most of the time I’m not even really doing any work. At the same time, it’s exhausting. I often have to force myself to get some exercise after work otherwise I’m useless the rest of the day. I also have a small auto detailing business which I do on weekends and a couple weekday afternoons a week in the spring and summer. Detailing can also be very exhausting but in a different way, because it can be physically demanding. Saturdays are often 12 hour days for me, but I don’t feel nearly as exhausted and drained after a day of detailing cars as I would after 8 hours in an office. In the spring and summer, I’ll go straight to a customer’s house after work and detail a car, and it helps clear my head and gain some energy back. So I think a lot of the stress and fatigue has to do with whether I’m doing something productive or not. I’ve been working towards expanding my business so hopefully I can quit this office job soon and just work on cars full time. It would be so much healthier for me

  22. I’m in software development. I usually manage to do a week of work in a few hours so I can slack the rest of the week, go outside for long walks, read a few books at the cafeteria. That’s the only way I can survive the cubicle life without turning into Paddock.

  23. “I also saw the females present not as my intellectual equals—even if they were smart—but as fodder for sexual fantasies that gave me distracting boners.”
    Solid article as usual. I agree with all of it. However I think this part says more about your ability to turn off that’s part of your brain that sexually fantasizes and focus then the effects of having women in the workplace.

  24. None of you guys should ever give up pushing paper in order to hunt so don’t kid yourselves

  25. There’s nothing worse than cramming yourself into public transport squeezed up next to your fellow wage cucks working 52 + hours a week and constantly told you’re the cause of all world problems because you’re a white male. Yes self pity is a terrible thing for a man but there’s not much hope for the modern young man

  26. Not disagreeing with you Brother Roosh but wanted to share something cool. I have a 26 year professional career. Worked for some of the worst…. but the company I work for now just put out a memo basically saying they understand working will kill you. In response they gave us unlimited vacation time starting next year with some limitations on length and available coverage.
    Plus I just enjoyed 2 months of paid PATERNITY leave! Hope to see more like this, it sure takes the dread out the daily grind knowing i can still have the time to do important stuff. Besides becoming a father i also found time to start a business.

  27. I wish I worked a 9 to 5 job. Aside from making money online, its the best form of employment there is. I work retail and the hours suck. Lots of nights and weekends, it kills your social life. At least when you work 9 to 5, you still have plenty of time after work to go out and have fun.

  28. Find a job you like instead of crying like a little bitch. If you can’t work a 9 to 5 job you lack some serious discipline. These jobs are only killing if you don’t like the things you have to do.
    Or apply for welfare if you don’t want to work at all.

  29. Roosh sounds like a bitch in this article. I work 56hrs ours a week as a welder/fabricator. 68 if you include commute. I wake up at 3am, get home at 5. I get an hour of break/lunch, 9 of work. I still ain’t no dang’ol zombie when I get home. Sure, I’m 22. But among other old dudes, I work with a 54 year old with arthritis in 80% of his joints. Its odd that roosh would display such weakness.

    1. ALL these guys including myself are paper pushers we couldn’t survive in the woods if we were starving to death . They complain about life in the USA but they never move from here to so called utopia Ukraine .

      1. “Survive in the Woods”
        It takes about 3 weeks to learn all there is about survival in any terrain and you average US army enlistee (I was in the reserves for 2 years) has an IQ around 95-100.
        But “survival in the woods” for what? What is the point of it?
        Be like Jason Voorhees in Friday the 13th?

    2. Another reason I quit the trades. Most of the fellas you work with have the same attitude as you- work yourself to death for shitty wages, no complaints. Anything less and of course you are a weak loser. Check out some of the tradesman forums. Sparkys, Welders, Carpenters etc. They pick each other apart like low class school children. “oh look, this Einstein didn’t put a dinglewhopper on the j-coupling’s trandsducer! What a fucking moron! yeah what a faggot! I put in 2000 hours this week and slept on rebar” Save it buddy. You’re young enough to go to college before all the immigrants drive our labor into the ground any further. Work your way through. Don’t perpetuate this nonsense 5-year apprenticeship crap where you “put in your dues” for some curmudgeon driving a King Ranch and a Turkey necked Union Rep making 6 figs masturbating to rough buttsex on his MacBook. I recommend you spit that dip out get your teeth all nice and shiny again, buy a nice shirt and get sales job while you hammer out a degree. Leave the cup walking and wire lube to the browns that are flooding the labor market and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that any moron can make journeyman, and it sure as hell shouldn’t take 5 years apple bobbing some old guys greasy summer sausage.

      1. Lol. Yeah, trades are stupid. It’s better to spend 4 years in a brainwashing institution learning useless shit you’ll forget once you turn in an assignment, instead of practical skills. All while accumulating mass debt, only to find out getting a job takes forever and you still have to settle for a shitty office job to pay your dues.
        But really, grow a pair faggot. Your kind doesn’t belong here. Buzzfeed is more your speed. If you’re an idiot, there’s a place for you in the trades. If you’re smart, there’s an even better place for you, like making 80 per hour tig welding for NASA.

        1. I heard of the NASA TIG welding- whispered with great reverence when I went through the local welding program. That’s where we all were headed, of course.
          Good luck out there, with the browns. Lo siento mucho if I insulted your heritage. It won’t be the last time, I assure you.

  30. Damn this describes my life (except for the part about masturbating after lunch)!
    I have some serious thinking to do about that. Thank you, Roosh, for this much-needed slap of reality to my head.

  31. Sure glad my skill set allowed me to live from contract to contract overseas. Sure, there was some uncertainty but better than no hope of promotion in the same office cube since 1998.
    I was able to work in different countries and maybe the pay was shit or not as good but in the end the owner of the company does not give two shits about the employees anyhow.
    Everybody here acts as if their employer is doing them a favor.

  32. Don’t work for the South Australian public sector:
    http://dpc.sa.gov.au/about/commitment-to-white-ribbon-accreditation
    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/state-government-to-give-all-public-sector-workers-domestic-violence-training/news-story/752281dc534161220411713d47066ff0
    http://news.mensactivism.org/?q=node/30006
    In any event, the only time they hire men now is on a casual or short-term contract basis, at the end of the calendar and financial year, when deadlines have to be met.

    1. I’ve long suspected Australia is one of the countries they carry out dry runs on social experiments/projects/engineering. I was in Sydney last year and was waiting for my wife outside the toilets in a large shopping mall. I happened to glance up as a rather butch looking woman enter the female toilets, but thought nothing of it (many Aussie women are butch!) It was only after this ‘woman’ came out of the toilet I realised it was a man in a dress. I reacted as expected, I wanted to knock the perverts teeth out. The other guys waiting turned on me, held me back. It was surreal, they’ve all been brainwashed into accepting this as normal. If you have a normal reaction to deviancy then you are in the wrong. Bloody madness.

  33. The only way out of slavery is to become a slaver. Success isn’t being an owner-manager, it’s hiring a manager to do all the managing and worrying. It’s amazing how managers will trade their souls and their lives for status, six figure salary, and a BMW. While building somebody else’s fortune. This was my life for a decade.

  35. It’s already been proven that 40 hours is too much. Humans will actually produce more, in 32 hours, with a 3 day weekend, than they will in 40 with a 2-day. Just think about the last time you were at work, how much time did you fritter away waiting to go to lunch, to go home, to leave for the weekend?

  36. I hate to be the guy to ask this, but how can you possibly masturbate at work after lunch? Where do you do that? the bathroom stall? in your car? Just seems kinda risky.

  38. Questioning the 40 hour work week and this ridiculous worship of working for work’s sake is a step in the right direction. I’ve met my share of miserable sob’s who hate their job, brag about it, and want to share that misery with everyone else. Two parents doing nothing but work is bad for families too. The US really needs to lighten up on this Puritan work and sex-negative culture. The politicians keep shifting things into a stricter and stricter society where corporations increase their leverage over workers. Who among average citizens demanded that?

  39. “Today as always, men fall into two groups: slaves and free men. Whoever does not have two-thirds of his day for himself, is a slave, whatever he may be: a statesman, a businessman, an official, or a scholar.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche

  40. Let me tell you guys something. The USA deep state already has extremely exotic and advanced space ships that essentially do warp speed in atmosphere to the human eye.
    They made it to , the actual finish line before all of us and now the end game is to gobble up the last of earths resources and concentrate bodies in urban centers for the inevitable scarcity and war to come.
    No /other outcome short of technological slavery or war is possible for obvious reasons not including disease outbreak and natural disasters.
    If you had exotic craft and off-world colonies…..would you share? Probably not.
    Personally knowing the shit I know leaves me one option…drag my feet for the system by not participating in it’s machinery obliviously, but also living my life everyday knowing I’ve done the best I could with the hand I’ve been dealt.
    Work pfft…useful for getting shit you need and little else. Look at all of mans work to date.
    It merely has enabled ungrateful elements to flourish and given the governments of the world new and exciting ways to fleece, enslave, and kill their citizens.

  41. I agree. Having worked in the corporate world of cube farms, it is better just to buy some land and build a small farm. Grow your own food and work less and enjoy life more. Plus you get to eat better quality meat and vegetables organically farmed on your own land by your own hands.

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