Welcome To America’s New Golden Age

In 1920s, the US experienced a period of unprecedented economic prosperity, rapid advances technology, and a sense of destiny. With the election of Trump, the US is on the verge of a new golden age. Here is how Trump is going to make it happen and how you can capitalize on it.

Economic windfall


By far, the biggest effect of a Trump administration is going to be economic. Trump didn’t run as a moral reformer. He’s a businessman who ran on the promise to make American great again, and the primary way he is going to do that is by turning the US economy into a job-creating machine.

After Trump won, Apple suddenly announced that it was considering moving its iPhone manufacturing from China to the US. Later, Trump announced that he had convinced Ford to keep a plant from moving to Mexico. Even on Thanksgiving Day, Trump was negotiating with Carrier to keep its Indiana manufacturing plant in the US. Trump’s promise to do away with bad trade deals will keep existing jobs in the US and create many new ones that do not exist today. Manufacturing is what drove the prosperity of the US during the 20th century and under Trump, the US will again become a manufacturing powerhouse.

But the opportunities will not be limited to manufacturing. Those new jobs will drive demand for more service and knowledge oriented workers. If you are an employee, you can expect your salary to start increasing after the real unemployment rate begins to drop. It might take a couple of years to get there, but people in the middle class will once again see their wealth begin to grow. But the real opportunity will be for those who want to start their own businesses. This is a good time to begin thinking about what goods and services will be in demand during the golden age of Trump, and opening a business to meet those needs.

If the Republican Congress implements Trump’s tax plan, you will be taxed much less on anything you do earn. This will especially benefit middle class men who are trying to get ahead. Currently, the tax code benefits the wealthiest individuals who earn most of their income through capital gains and the poor. The middle class workers who are high wage earners now get taxed at a 39% rate. Under the Trump plan, they will only be taxed at a 25% rate—a substantial reduction that will allow ordinary families to build a nest egg.

The return of masculinity


Presidents don’t just influence policy, they also influence fashion and style. The 1970s were characterized by long hair, bushy mustaches, and bad fashion with wide lapels, clownishly wide ties, and the bell bottom pants that you saw on That’s 70s Show. The “ideal” man was the skinny, amoral, polyester-clad lounge lizard. When Reagan came into office, the style changed. Men cut their hair short, ties got narrow, and bell-bottoms vanished. Even the actors got more muscular—the 1980s were the golden age of tough guys from Schwarzenegger to Van Damme. The opposite happened during the Obama years. Men with muscle vanished and were replaced by narrow-shouldered hipsters in skinny jeans with low testosterone levels. In a way, Return of Kings is a reaction to these weak soy men of the Obama era.

Unlike Obama, Trump exudes what SJWs would call “toxic masculinity.” He enjoys being in the company of beautiful women. He works hard and believes that there is nothing wrong with enjoying the fruits of your labor. In comparison to the effete, professorial Obama, Trump has no problem conversing with ordinary working men. Expect to see masculine men to make a comeback during the Trump years. More men will hit the gym in a quest to develop functional muscle. It will again become acceptable for men to congregate together without women. We might even see a revival of the wood-paneled, leather-chair-furnished men’s clubs of the past.

SJWs in eclipse


Social Justice Warriors (SJWs) have used our natural aversion to hurting the feelings of others as a stick to control us for over two decades now. Their control extended to every aspect of our lives. Americans were not able to have an honest conversation about immigration because doing so was deemed racist, and men have lost their jobs on the testimony of one SJW accusing them of being homophobes.

Before Trump ran for office, there appeared to be no way to break the SJW straight jacket. But Trump’s campaign changed all of that because he was able to say publicly what the rest of us were thinking privately. His winning of the presidential election marked the first victory over the SJW rule of terror. Trump’s eight years could represent a serious setback to SJW ideology but only if the rest of us refuse to bow to SJW orthodoxy.

Conclusion: nothing lasts forever

The Trump years promise to be prosperous for everyone living in the US but he will only be in office for eight years and the voting public has a short memory. Trump’s successor might be an establishment Republican or a liberal Democrat who would reinstate the failed policies of open borders and bad trade deals that characterized the Bush and Obama administrations. It wouldn’t take more than a year or two before the prosperity of the Trump years would be rolled back. Thus, while you should enjoy the extra wealth that streams your way in the next eight years, you should also be sure to sock away a lot of that money in savings. This is not the time to develop the habit of snorting cocaine off of some prostitute’s bare backside. Continue to live a minimalistic lifestyle and you will leave the Trump years as a wealthy man.

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370 thoughts on “Welcome To America’s New Golden Age”

  1. That SJW picture, I’ve seen it before. Is that real or photo shopped? If real (2:28 if you want to skip to the relevant part):

  2. “The Trump years promise to be prosperous for everyone living in the US ”
    Dude – respectfully you have no way to conclude that Trump is going to bring some new golden age to America. I’m very happy that he got elected and not that socialist cunt Hillary, but he still has to make good on his promises – and I have to say that I’m a bit concerned when Trump talked about keeping certain parts of Obamcare.
    Let’s all pull Trump off the pedastol until he does make America great again.

    1. Agreed. I think we might want to wait a bit and see what happens a year from now, before we start basking in the glory of a new Golden Age. It might
      just turn out that Trump is a Trojan Horse. If things go well, hey,
      great, that will be just fine and dandy.
      But assuming Trump is going to magically make rainbows appear, and money fall from the sky, is a bit naive. Aside from creating government jobs, last time I checked, presidents don’t have much say in whether or not a corporation goes offshore.
      So let’s wait and see, is all I’m saying. It’s better that way, as we’ll all be less likely to experience a letdown, in case something bad happens and Trump goes full-on NWO like every other president has done before him, pretty much, all the way back to JFK.
      It’s better to assess the situation dispassionately, down the road, lest we
      wind up like all of those crazy, liberal, SJW apologists we hate so
      much, who still think Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread,
      despite his innumerable back-stabbing acts as commander-in-chief…

      1. It go’s back further than JFK I believe. If anything JFK upset the NWO bureaucracy. Especially when he tried to reclaim the American currency from the Federal reserve.
        Interestingly a few presidents met their demise who were opposed to a private organisation of foreign bankers control their nations money supply.

        1. You don’t live very long when you go against the money-printers. Funny how that works…

    2. Betting markets currently have 60% on Trump unable to finish his four-year term. Congress would much rather work with Pence. Trump’s too unstable and has few allies in Washington to help him when he inevitably starts breaking laws.

      1. They had Hilary as the massive favorite to get elected, too. Betting markets aren’t as they seem. There’s a lot more to them than meets the eye.

      2. The same ones that were saying he would lose the election until the very last weeks? Those betting markets?

        1. You know what they are? Betting markets. What I learned during the election is that betting markets can be wrong, and the ones that weren’t changed their tune only when it was clear that the die was cast.
          You got a lot of desire for vengeance going on here chief. How about letting the man at least get into office before joyously predicting his failure?

        2. I’ll take a hit on that. I was riding the betting lines because historically they have been more accurate than almost any betting poll, and historically that still holds true. Hey, can’t win ’em all.

    3. I could not agree more. Getting puffed up before the man has even taken office is premature celebration. Give him a chance, and don’t expect much, and you’ll probably be pleasantly surprised if he does even 25% of the things promised, and if he doesn’t deliver, you won’t be overly disappointed.

        1. U.S. Secretary of the Treasury: (((Steven Mnuchin)))
          This choice seems cucked to me, honestly.

        2. Of course, he said a lot of good things; and even if he only fulfill 40% of all his promises, he will be the best President in the US since decades ago. Trump is not the solution but a step in the right direction.
          What really worries me is that maybe, just maybe he was all talk, no deeds. In that scenario the dissapointment in the people who voted for him (mostly white people) will forced them into abstentionism; and in that event, the non whites, fags, jews, and related leftist will be the electoral majority in the US, and then its over for you americans, you are dead.

        3. I am not an American….
          Besides that I agree completely with you, but you should admit that breaking the taboo of PC and thriving after the still continuing media attack was a needed step.

        4. Jews always have to be in chage of our money, that won’t change without something radical, which would include an awareness of the jewish problem.

        5. I am sure that President Trump will bring a “considerable” change, especially when it comes to the Group of People/Cult/Sect/Entity who thinks they can and are controlling the Legal & Educational systems, Banking, Entertainment, Hollywood and Media.
          And they already started spewing venom against Trump, by fabricating the facts and trying to show Trump’s ideas & promises as “impractical and un-achievable “; even before he took over the Office !!!
          We must be united and should support Trump. May GOD give Health and Strength to Trump.

        6. You completely got it wrong buddy ! Majority of the Voters in this Country are whites and there is no point in saying that “mostly white people voted for him”.
          I am a (Indian) Immigrant and I (and many more, hundreds & thousands) supported Trump, even though he appeared to be anti-immigrant. Trust me, majority of the Immigrants (Indians, Chinese and others) voted for Trump. Well, what could be the reason ? Simple. What ever Trump said, is factual. I will cover 2 points here.
          =Radical Islam (and preventing Muslims to enter into this Country): 100% correct. Anybody with common sense can understand that Trump actually wants to “streamline” who enters into this Country, in a legitimate and acceptable way.
          =Building a Wall around the Border: 100% correct. Trump might not actually build the Wall, but might have some solid plans to “prevent” ILLEGAL Immigration or Border Crossing.
          And; preventing Jobs going out of this Country, Reducing Taxes so the Businesses doesn’t have to shift overseas, Increasing number of Jobs; Well, nothing seems to be Dangerous or Disastrous or UN-Acceptable to me !!!
          I am really surprised when my Brothers here are ignoring the facts: Immigration is a “Well thought, calculated, controlled and beneficial” process. If it doesn’t benefit the Country, then there would NEVER have been any “concept” of Immigration. Note that I am not referring to “Illegal Immigration”, “Refugees”, “Asylum Seekers” or “Green Card Lottery Winners”.

        7. What many people fail to understand is that most illegal immigration is overstayed VISAs NOT illegal border crossings. The US has the US/Mexico border pretty much sewn up. There is already a massive fence and the areas that the fence don’t cover are impassable deserts.

        8. Good point Bob. But whoever overstays their VISAs , they will sure pay the penalty (guilty of overstaying, fear of getting caught, over-worked, exploited & getting paid peanuts, identity crisis, possibility of getting banned to enter for lifetime … etc.) and guess they deserve it.
          Also, the Government has “records” of who entered the Country and their “permitted time to stay”. Any moment, the “overstayed illegal immigrants” can be deported; which is quite hard and cumbersome when dealing the “Illegal border crossings”.

        9. That happened in Finland, unfortunately.
          The Finns Party (formerly known as True Finns) fucked up big time when they got in governmental charge after the big win in election ‘cos they were unable to deliver or make any visible changes to the current state of issues.
          Mass immigration continues to grow and fill the land with primitives as planned, SWJ:s rule and run the office as they’ve always done etc.
          And now the voters are mad at The Finns and surely for a reason but since they are the only nationalist party in this country, their hands are tied. Everyone else, every other party, is against them as one.
          Now we’re in a situation where there is no nationalist party in this country and no considerable force to act against globalist/socialist/SWJ/homos on any remarkable level.
          Just watch how nation is falling to pieces just in few years.
          In few years a nation that once was prosperous, peaceful haven on earth will turn into a grotesque hellhole reminiscent of Somalia/Afghanistan/Iraq and there’s nothing we can do about it anymore.
          I pray to God that mr. Putin will take over this land before it’s too late. I won’t be fighting back, I will welcome him with open arms.

        10. That’s exactly the problem with the democratic game. Democracy is designed to prevent change. A true Nationalist party could make it to the power; but due to the checks and balances, the independent branchs, etc, etc, it possibly will accomplish nothing. In my personal opinion, the only way to recover our countries back is not with the ballot, but with the rifle. We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
          Finland is a beautiful land with a long tradition of tough warriors; hell, you kicked the soviets ass in WWII. I wish the best to your people. Europe and Europe’s people must live.

        11. You can always tighten the control i.e. send the “hound dogs” after anyone who’s entered the country with a tourist visa and overstayed that. Chase ’em down just as passionately as a mass murderer.
          They will be found and when found, deported at the spot but before that their DNA, fingerprints and other needed information taken so their future entry to the US can be prevented.
          It will cost money, but it will be worth every penny.

        12. No Bob. Unless they are caught on the spot (there are number of stories that Patrol Border Officers took “$$$” and let the “illegals” safely into the Country). It’s damn difficult, a “herculean task” indeed !
          Second thing; people who “overstay” their Visa time are normally referred as “over stayers or visa over stayers”, because they entered into the Country “Legally”.
          Problem is, whenever the topic of “Immigration” comes, many local people (courtesy goes to the f*****g Media & “Vested Interests”) will blame & look at the “so called” Immigrants who are actually NOT “Immigrants”. I will give you my own example.
          I came to this Country as a “International Student” (guess no need to say that I didn’t get any kind of “benefits, freebies or handouts” from Tax Payers Money AND as a “outsider”, I paid more fees for the same course than “locals”; no problem !), got the “Graduate Assistantship” purely on the basis of MERIT, I repeat, on the basis of MERIT. Nothing “influenced” the decision of our Professor; my gender, my skin color, my religion, my Country of origin etc. So for the first 14 months, I am NOT an “Immigrant”.
          I got the OPT status for 12 Months and began to work. Guess what, I have been paid LESS salary because of my Visa status !!! even though I had more than enough Solid and Proven work experience. No problem ! So for another 12 months, I am NOT an “Immigrant”
          I got the H1B (Work Visa) for 3 Years. Nothing changed for me ! No extra benefits, privileges etc. and for this whole 3 years, I am still NOT an “Immigrant” !
          Although I got other high-paying opportunities in renewed Corporations, I remained loyal to my first company. My Work Visa was extended for another 3 Years. I am still NOT an “Immigrant” !
          Many of the H1B professionals will not get a Permanent Residency or Green Card during their H1B visa term and they have to “leave” the Country for 1 full year or can change the “status” again to “Student” !!!
          In my case, my GC application has been cleared in my 6th year.
          I don’t know what to call myself !? Am I a “permanent resident” ? or an “Immigrant” !!??
          During my first 8+ years (that’s quite a long time, I guess !), by NO means (legally, technically, visa status wise or literally !!) I can be called as a “Immigrant” ! Going by the Dictionary meaning, I didn’t “studied” in this Country to “settle”, I didn’t worked in this Country to “settle”. Come on, 8+ good damn years in my life; I am NOT an “Immigrant”.
          Tax wise, benefits wise, privileges wise I NEVER noticed any difference between my FRIST day in this Country to THIS day !!! Except getting rid of being “insanely” questioned by “lunatic” CBP “morons”, also called as CBP “officers” at Port of Entry !!!
          “Immigrants” ! really !? OMG !!! Am I a “Refugee” !?, Am I a “Asylum Seeker” !?, Did I entered into this Country by Force/Cheating or “illegally” !? Did this Government, at the expense of Tax Payers Money, provided for me !?
          Did I come to this Country with a VISA that reads as “Immigrant” and being given a “Indefinite Leave to Remain” status at the Port of Entry !?
          Am I responsible for the Businesses and Corporations giving Jobs to “outsiders” !?

        13. If you read some of his books, he teaches to kick ass and get revenge on those who deserve it. I just hope he is much more cunning than he seems to be.

        14. Well if the Border Patrol are corrupt then you’ll never get rid of illegals. Think about it like this. How long have the police been taking bribes to look the other way? For as long as they have existed.
          That said, do you really think that illegal immigrants are the biggest problem that the US faces? It seems to me to be more of a nuisance than actually a tangible problem (like say the never-ending banking crisis).

        15. Exactly ! Well said Bob ! And I am with you. For one second, lets forget about the Immigration (Legal and/or Illegal !). I always wonder why some people ignore the more “real dangers & problems” this Country (in particular) and the rest of the World (in general) has to face !
          I am concerned, I care and I worry about the safety, prosperity and well-being of this Country, as much as of my Home Country. Gone those days of “my Country is safe and so I am safe”. Let’s accept the reality; almost everything became (or at least becoming) “Global” (Including our ROK platform !!!).
          Why do you think I (who have no interest in “dating” or any sort of intimate relationship with local women) came to the ROK, spending time reading bits of Articles, going through (and replying) to the (matured !) comments !? Because I am a MAN. When it comes to the problems of fellow MEN, I don’t care about things like Country, Religion, Race etc. (I am a Hindu and I believe that there is only ONE Supreme Being. You call Him as “Christ” and I call Him as “Lord Siva” and some other person might call Him with some other name; it makes NO difference).
          Coming to the topic again; I couldn’t digest the way MEN are being portrayed as fools and retards in TV Soaps, Movies made for TV Channels, Advertisements (on & offline) and even Hollywood.
          I couldn’t bear the way MALENESS and MASCULINE behavior are shamed. I couldn’t “take it easy” the “not-so-funny” jokes, comments and satires on the MALE Anatomy. I was never been comfortable with the kind of Entitlement, Bitchiness, Arrogance and Attitude of the women.
          On one side, I see women playing victim card and on the other side, I see same women who are now rude, bitter and ready to assault on MEN. And yet I see women who imitate MASCULINITY in every aspect (dressing, behavior, body language etc.) BUT shamelessly demand Chivalry ! And now comes the STATE; to “subsidize” everything and anything for the women, at the cost & expense of Tax Payers Money (Majority: MEN). Don’t even want to raise the topic of Divorce, False Rape, Sexual Harassment !!!
          I wish that ROK’s first & foremost agenda should be to address problems faced by MEN. For GOD sake, there are other sites to discuss about “Religion, Immigration, Illegals or whatever” !
          PS: I noticed few of the guys here started posting kind of “aggressive and hatred” comments, which doesn’t serve any purpose. I used to reply to them but from today onwards, I will just ignore them; after all, they are my/our Brothers ! Aren’t they !

    4. Totally agree, lets wait “FOUR MORE YEARS” before we begin the Donald Trump circle jerk.

    5. True. I’m hopeful that Trump will turn out to be a great leader, but it remains to be seen. In spite of the all the talk about how SJWs are “over” after the Trump win I reckon that if this administration doesn’t turn out to be truly great, the far left will be back with a vengeance. Next time they probably won’t go with a terrible candidate like Clinton, so we could quite possibly be looking at a communist…er, sorry, “democratic socialist” in power in four years.

    6. I’m thinking that the first month will give a preview of what’s in store for the next four years. He made a lot of promises about things he was going to do on his “first day in office” that sounded great and were also completely within his executive powers. Now, first day includes lots of non-work stuff like the inauguration, parade, move in to the White House, ball, etc…, so I’ll give the guy five days. If any of those things get done in the first five days, I’ll take it as a positive sign. Otherwise, I will resign myself to the fact that things will continue on the present course, but at least I will get to watch four years of epic Trump trolling (which may destroy legacy media, probably an overall positive accomplishment too).
      That said, I am encouraged by some of the things he is already doing – like negotiating with various companies to try to keep manufacturing plants open here. And his nomination of Sessions – one of the most staunch anti-illegal immigration folks out there – as AG makes it at least look like he is serious on that front too. The guy is basically acting like the president before he even assumes the office, and Obama is just irrelevant now. So thus far, it would appear that he is at least making a good faith effort, and I am hopeful, but trying to remain realistic.

    7. What people overlook, is that Republican majority aside, there’s legislation in place that doesn’t allow snap-neck, knee-jerk changes to happen. I’d look for real change by Mid-2019, IF it does happen.
      Also, we can him-haw at any initial aspects of his decisions pre-Throne, and once in office, however to say he’s learning things he wasn’t aware of is probably an understatement. I think Trump has the potential to be a phenomenal president, but after Bush and Obama, the bar has been set so low, all he has to do is fully succeed at just 1 or 2 of his promises, and he’s leagues ahead (big league.. haha), of the past 2 presidents combined.
      Think of the US as the head of all businesses in it’s register. It takes large companies like… Aetna for instance, 6-18 months+ just to implement changes across their organization. Since the US gov’t dwarfs most of the world’s largest companies, expect changes to take min. 2 years to be noticed, but most likely 3-7 years. The only immediate change he’ll make I can see would be 1) taxes, and 2) healthcare << and not the quality of healthcare, just not being fined for not having any. The quality of healthcare will have an echo effect and take, again, min a few years to be noticeable.

    8. True. That kind of wishful projection is something we expect from certain quarters of women & children incapable of critical thinking. Let the numbers & effects talk over time.

    9. Agreed, Im worried hes going to be the conservative version of Obama in terms of being a letdown

    10. Well stated. The Trump triumphalism and dreams that he will usher in 1950s America are akin to the Obama messianism (Does anyone remember, “Today we stop the ocean levels from rising”?). I’m ecstatic that he got elected but my support for him was mostly based on the fact that he was the anti-Clinton and a big fukc you to the establishment. Jumping on the Trump train with messianic zeal is foolish for many reasons not least of which is the fact that he’s flawed in so many ways. My hopes for his regime are modest but two things really concern me. One is that, cyclically, we’re about due for a recession and there’s no powder left in the arsenal of monetary policy (negative interest rates maybe?) or fiscal policy (how much more borrowing can the federal government do?). The other thing is that I fear those hoping for a manufacturing Renaissance through re-shoring are likely to be disappointed. Offshoring is only part of the problem. Arguably, the bigger issue is technological advances in manufacturing automation. Those jobs are gone.

      1. It’s up to every man to find happiness regardless of the state of the world. I created my own reality. A reality that many ” men ” seem to desire being handed too them from the top down of a magical restructured society. Sometimes just sometimes the manosphere plays victim and blames the landscape for their lack of carving out a slice of the pie for themselves. Crap like ” can finally hold head up ” due to a bloody election is pathetic. Why so many guys want to ride Trumps cock is beyond me. Why so many guys think Trump can change mathematical realities and baked in trends is beyond me.
        Note I am happy with the outcome of the election, yet I would be much happier if I was the freaking president.
        Anyhow, it was your 50s America that made me chime in; as I sit in my cabin full of atomic age furniture loading a cast iron pot belly wood burning stove while my mink coat wearing wife sleeps in the loft. Lulz feminist, fags, and Obama made my pussy hurt so bad.

    11. I’m more concerned about him getting shot like Lincoln or Kennedy rather than not keeping his promises.

      1. If something did happen to Trump – either assasination or natural causes – the patriots who are pushing for a civil war might decide to get mobilized.

        1. That’s a good one. The minute they set foot out of their houses, the FBI would be arresting them and that’d be it.

        2. I didn’t say they’d be successful – I’m just saying that might be a catalyst. It’s tricky to say what the outcome would be, but no doubt you are correct that the feds will also get mobilized.

        3. The last president who stepped out of line got shot. Ronald Reagan.
          The man responsible is still around. Trump better watch out.

      2. You should be even more concerned how Jill Stein’s recount in Wisconsin is trying to delay the recount so that the electoral election cannot take place, so that Trump cannot become President.

        1. Given how vindictive the Liberals are for Trump having beaten Clinton, I wouldn’t put anything past them.

    12. He did kept his promise to keep Carrier in the States. But i agree, its to soon to evaluate his work but good Lord, am i happy and exited for the Trump presidency!

      1. At the very least the moral among masculine men is higher now and we walk around with our heads up. I think it is ok to be cautiously optimistic anyway.

        1. Men don’t require a mandate to carry themselves with pride. If anything men love flaunting themselves in front of opposition. Perhaps some boys will enjoy role playing cause think it’s trendy / edgy / SAFE.

        2. Agree. The marxist tide has been stopped, at least for now. But the war is far from over. Lets see how the results in Austria turn out.

    13. Morrison thank you, thank you, thank you.
      Where is the critical mind in this article?
      This article is for fan-boys. That guy is already surrounding himself with “la crème de la crème” of global capitalists, and other weird stuff.
      I heard Trump was also making dollar bills fly, and the water severs when he walks, all women will become virgins again, and flower petals will be flying into the wind whenever Trump’s name will be pronounced. Idolatry will not serve us well.
      Glad to see that some people are not drinking the Kool-aid, wait and see I’d say.

      1. Thanks for the kind words, man – and you can be rest assured that there are plenty of other guys on the ROK forum that are equally as critical.

      1. They are all fundamentally socialists of the National Socialist type. In fact, their philosophies are similar and you can trace a direct line from the Clintons and the Americans who collaborated with the Nazis before, after and during WW2.

    14. We know for a fact that both Spacely’s Sprockets and Cogswell’s Cogs will be based in the U.S. for centuries to come.

  3. I think we might want to wait a bit and see what happens a year from now, before we start basking in the glory of a new Golden Age. It might just turn out that Trump is a Trojan Horse. If things go well, hey, great, that will be just fine and dandy. But assuming Trump is going to magically make rainbows appear, and money fall from the sky, is a bit naive. Aside from creating government jobs, last time I checked, presidents don’t have much say in whether or not a corporation goes offshore.
    So let’s wait and see, is all I’m saying. It’s better that way, as we’ll all be less likely to experience a letdown, in case something bad happens and Trump goes full-on NWO like every other president has done before him, pretty much, all the way back to JFK.
    It’s better to assess the situation dispassionately, down the road, lest we wind up like all of those crazy, liberal, SJW apologists we hate so much, who still think Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread, despite his innumerable back-stabbing acts as commander-in-chief…

  4. Don’t forget that the whole establishment is anti Trump. And that some that will join him are quieslings with no loyalty to anybody.
    Sure, Trump made a big hole in the PC narative and anti men shaming. But it’s far to be over…
    Serious fights are coming.

  5. Trump’s the man but so far it seems most likely that it will be a golden age for goldman sachs and less golden for gold itself.

      1. He is securing his position by embedding himself with the money elite. Understandable but disappointing and it doesn’t bode particularly well

        1. does anyone know whether he’s circumcised (apart from every beauty queen crowned in the last four decades)?

        2. Interestingly, if one pays close attention, unlike Bubba Clitler (whom, bizzarly enough, is well noted by his victims to possess a small, badly deformed penis), most of the Trump sexual aspersions had to do with female sexual apparati; perhaps Trump lost his dick in some horrible accident?

        3. well I hope that isn’t the case. Personally I suspect – though I certainly don’t care to have it confirmed either way – that were Trump to drop his pants for his first presidential address (paddy power is currently giving odds of 11/2 on this) he would reveal a giant green member shaped like a whimsical frog

        4. don’t be bad. The phonetic equivalent here is ‘cuck’ – literally with respect to Huma

        5. I meant Trump’s (not Anthony’s) wiener, damnit.
          And I don’t know, if someone’s wife lives with an old rich gangster “lady” performing cunnillingual services and such, is that “cucked”, technically?

        6. you raise a good point – something Hillary evidently never could. I’m not sure to be honest. I think it’s like when dogs lick your hand. You think they love you, but actually they’re just interested in the salt content

        7. Interesting you mention dog licking.
          I’ve heard it’s neither affection nor salt.
          If a dog licks a person’s face (or hand) it’s pure hateful trolling, especially after the dog just finished licking his own balls and ass.
          The dog is laughing himself silly…

        8. But give bloodsucking Goldman Sachs graduates all the strategically important positions in your presidential administration?

        9. And what, risk guaranteed death by publicly declaring war on the masters instead of placing them strategically in positions where you can keep a close eye on them until the day of reckoning?

        10. I get it now. They think they are surrounding him. But the Donald is setting it up so he can take out all the bad guys with a single grenade and a karate kick or two

      2. I saw a clickbait headline this morning that said this will be the wealthiest cabinet ever assembled (sounds controversial, and yeah, definitely bad news, but how many poor people do you think Trump knows? — it’s kind of obvious he will be surrounded by rich out of touch elites)

        1. Goldman Sachs is Darth Vader on acid. Research them at length and you’ll probably want to puke. Bad news. Really bad news, they are indeed.

    1. I seem to have come equipped without the “despise the wealthy” gland that most people have. I don’t care if somebody who worked for Goldman Sachs, or Enron, or any other giant mega-corporation. What I care about is how competent they are to do the job they are being tasked to do. Class warfare never really appealed to me on any level.
      I know you’re not a class-warrior michael. I just happen to think that we’ve absorbed a lot of the basic framework of Marxism unconsciously due to its omnipresent presence in almost every area of life these days.

      1. Yeah although Goldman Sachs is a really shady organisation they are more friendly with Hillary than Trump…

        1. I think that once you get past a certain size you’re going to have a lot of things that can be cast as shady (and some probably are, don’t get me wrong). It’s one of the huge issues with having a mercantilist/public-private economy instead of a true free market one.
          That being said, most of the time the “He’s from XYZ!” comes from a position of “But they’re rich!” I could give two shits if they’re rich. Some at GS may have (and probably did) do bad things, that doesn’t indict every employ of GS. At its core, the notion is nothing but collectivist.

        2. Well I have in mind the actual shady things that they have done rather than their size. They have a reputation for this rather than say, larger organisations like McDonalds.

        3. The problem is not that they are rich, is that they are virtually parasites, an organization whose very existence would be unlikely in a free market economy with stable currencies backed by gold or a basket of resources. They feed on a rigged system that has ensured perpetual devaluation of the currency and perverse incentives.
          Just like many government employees, they would be unnecessary were it not for our rigged system.

      2. It’s nothing to do with despising the wealthy. Goldman are the guys who along with the central bankers (and it’s difficult to distinguish between them even conceptually) who rig the system. Ignore the fact this was published in Rolling Stone, here is a great feature on them by Matt Taibbi – http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405 – who memorably described the company as “a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money”. Over in England our central banker is a canadian GS alumnus who’s fixed the country for stocks with QE & low interest rates, over in the US the GS is over-represented at the Fed ( https://www.thenation.com/article/why-do-former-goldman-sachs-bankers-keep-landing-top-slots-at-the-federal-reserve), and now they’ve got the treasury too (if Mnuchin remains their man and I’m sure he does). Even Bannon is ex GS. So this isn’t about hammering the wealth but shining a much needed spotlight on the people who collude to fix things, typically for their benefit exclusively. Now unlike you I love trump. I just think he should choose his friends more carefully

        1. That’s nothing but guilt by association. I don’t buy into that kind of thing.

        2. I really hope Bannon and Mnuchin have severed their GS ties for good. I kind of doubt it though.

        3. We’ll see. As noted in other places on this thread, I’m going neutral at least until he takes office. The only thing that would give me a head of steam regarding anger is if Romney gets an appointment. Everything else, time will tell.

      3. If anything, I have *respect* for the wealthy, if they worked hard and earned their wealth honestly.
        The problem I have is the financial economy has given many the ability to become extremely wealthy without working, or doing much of value to society. The classic example is George Soros, who became a billionaire by betting the pound would decline in value. Through leverage and futures markets which let him risk far more than his own money on this bet, he became wealthy enough that he never had to work again, and can afford to manipulate American society until the day he dies.
        The rewards to capital are not in balance with the rewards to labor. Why is capital rewarded so heavily, and labor not? Just as an example, if Soros didn’t have the margin rules which allowed him to wager multiples of his money, all he would be able to do is put up his money, like at a regular casino, to double or nothing. If he had $10,000, he could either lose it, or double it, but could never become a billionaire. There are many today who are receiving lots of wealth, while doing little work to earn it. Goldman are rigging the system for themselves regularly to do this.

        1. Work comes in many forms. While I really value hard physical work, I also recognize that work encompasses the intellectual realm as well. The measure of work is not sweat.
          I have no love of GS, but I’m going to see what happens with these appointments in the future. They may turn out to be as awful as predicted. Or not. I generally try very hard to refrain from assigning ill intent through guilt by association.

        2. Sure, *valuable* intellectual work. Hell, that’s what my job is.
          I keep waiting for the day there is not another Trump article posted here. The guy hasn’t even taken office yet, let’s give him a chance to at least make America Good, if not Great before microanalyzing him to death. The only thing I’ll say about his appointments is they will control the information he gets, and directly affect his ability to make the right decisions, so I do hope he has some outsiders in his cabinet. I’m kind of surprised he’s not appointing more businessmen and less government lifelong politicians.

    2. Exactly. An elite New York billionaire just sold the poor desperate working class the stinkiest piece of con artistry that American politics has ever seen.
      Suckaaaaaaaaas. All a youse.

      1. You seem happy to see him fail. That’s interesting. If he succeeds at what he promised, that means that non-rich people get a good deal. You seem to rejoice that they may not get that good deal.
        Reminds me of the climate change eco-religionists who get mad when you point out that the world isn’t ending in some giant eco-disaster. Who the hell wants to see the world end? Apparently they do.

        1. Same mentality as those meteorologists on the Weather Channel who can barely contain their glee, while reporting on the path of a killer hurricane…

        2. Right? That’s exactly what it’s like. And you can see their crestfallen look when it doesn’t happen. What the hell?

        3. I’m neutral currently. I’m on record for a while now with only wanting Trump for SCOTUS appointments. Everything else I’m taking a very hands off “wait and see” approach. I really don’t expect much out of him outside of SCOTUS. And, the man hasn’t even taken office yet. I remain dispassionately disinterested, at least until he’s sworn in.

        4. He’s a fucking sociopath, bent on revenge, a cartoon villain (“What? Alicia Machado? Where did you get that from?”). I refuse to recognize him as my president. My extended family and all my friends feel the same. We’re not hipsters or SJWs, either, just normal middle-class professional people.
          He has no ideas for job growth except one: Starting a trade war and getting us isolated from the world. The globalists that he’s appointing may prevent that from happening.

        5. Yes, you hate him. Ok, we know that.
          You’re cheering for him to fail before he even takes office. If he fails and doesn’t deliver, average people get hurt, bad. And you’re cheering this.
          You may want to rethink you position and get RID of the emotions which so clearly drive you politics. Leftism is nothing but emotional responses to world stimuli. You may have grown up with it all of your life, but perhaps you should reconsider your views without the baggage of using emotions as your primary motivator?

        6. Trump’s policies in health care will DAMAGE the working class. 14 million people have health care through the ACA. I personally will lose my health care plan because of this election.

        7. Obama’s system is hurting people in real life. Lots and lots of people. Lots and lots of working class people. I talk to a lot of them. Double premiums coming up this year, deductible going through the roof, really bad things and that’s for the ones who haven’t lost theirs entirely.
          Or is this all about you?

        8. You can’t lose your health care under the ACA. That was in fact the point of the law — to fill the gaps in coverage. Maybe you want to review just what Obama did. (BTW, it’s the exact same system that Republican Richard Nixon proposed forty yrs ago.) If the ACA is repealed, then insurance companies will have the right to deny coverage again, and we’re back to where we were during the Bush years.
          Yes, everybody votes out of their own self-interest. That’s the way democracy is. It’s fair and just.

        9. Insurance companies SHOULD be able to deny coverage. Health care isn’t a constitutional right.

        10. Oh, right, I forgot. They lose their employer health care due to costs imposed by government meddling, then are forced at gunpoint to participate in the government system.
          My bad.
          So you admit it’s all about you. So you’ve no mind for your fellow man nor posterity. Ok, understood.
          You’ve redpilled the sexual dynamics. At some point it’s going to occur to you that you’re running your political life based on the female id weaponized into a political movement (Leftism). Or at least, I hope that finally occurs to you. Consider how you’re looking at this. Emotions, solipsism, ranting, enraged.
          I don’t think we’re going to get anything out of this conversation from this point that will do anything other than alienate each other further. You’re a smart man and I have hopes that some day you’ll go full red pill (which does not mean “pro-Trump”) in your politics and schluff off the female hive mind Leftism.
          In any event, hope your day goes well.

        11. Without the ability to deny coverage, it creates a system that is no longer insurance because it eliminates the entire concept of risk prediction upon which actuary tables are built.

        12. I refuse to recognize him as my president.

          I feel the same way about the Chicago Cubs, i.e. The Chicago Cubs are not my World Series champions.

        13. Same here. I’m prepared for whatever happens, and I would like to be pleasantly surprised. But I won’t cry if I’m not…

        14. Not at all. Your butthurt over the factual fallout of Obama and his ramping up socialism in a country that doesn’t want it and the same rat bag pack of cronies getting rich off it. Did the rich get richer over the last 8 years… why yes, they did. Poking your bubble is easy, however you do not acknowledge the reality of your cult relgion (global warming, socialism, etc..) and “man-gods” and the impact they have on others.
          Millions lost their coverage and their premiums have shot up. You ignore that fact and prattle on the same clapped out bullshit you can read at the NYT. Detatched and delusionsal.

        15. Okay, this debate isn’t going to go anywhere because we don’t share the same assumptions.
          My assumption: Health care IS a universal right in a Stage IV civilized society.
          You guys’ assumption: Health care is NOT a universal right in a Stage IV civilized society.
          That’s about the end of it. Cheers.

        16. What’s funny about the whole “rich got richer” thing that the Left holds as true, is that in America, that does not indicate that the *same* rich got richer. Our class system is dynamic and mobile, you can be poor one day and a multi-millionaire ten years later. You can be a billionaire one day and dead broke in five years. They see no mobility at all, they simply lump the “rich” together as some monolithic entity that exists outside of any notions of class mobility. That’s a fatal flaw in their “logic” (such as it is).

        17. “Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state lives at the expense of everyone.” ― Frédéric Bastiat

        18. I get that, but how do most people these days become millionaires? Inheritance. Our system used to be more dynamic, but the barries to growth and income are put in place by an encroaching government who exists for their own or certain groups interests.
          Let insurnace agencies sell across state lines, initiate a national flat tax and end personal income tax, reduce federal regulation and agencies, etc… it wouldn’t be that difficult if the will was there.

        19. if we take your assumption for granted, that healthcare is a universal right in a stage IV civilized society (fair warning, I do not believe that to be true but for the sake of argument lets say it is). Now, lets say, hypothetically (though this is the reality of it) that instituting that universal healthcare, rather than having the effect of creating a real universal health care system for everyone, basically tanks both the entire economy while at the same time turns all health care, top to bottom, into such total and utter shit that no one is getting the care they need (with the exception of the uber wealthy)? Would you still say that we should follow up on this universal right even if it will not only harm the people it is intended to help but also harm everyone else except the top 5% of wealth people in the world while simultaneously curb stomping the entire economy?

        20. I don’t think that’s the majority who get rich, but there’s no real way for me to dispute it. I sure as hell didn’t get any inheritance.
          Everything else I agree, except that I still see a lot of social mobility in the economy, but do understand it isn’t what it used to be.

        21. Not only this, but the left operates under the constant delusion that “wealth” is a zero sum game where in order for one person to get rich, someone else has to get poor. So wrong. You can literally create wealth out of thin air with nothing but your own muscle and sweat. The proof – while those rich got richer, so did the poor. But I’m supposed to be all upset because the rate of advance was bigger for the rich. Give me a fucking break. I don’t see poor people starving to death in the streets.

        22. Zero sum game is their bread and butter. Without ZSG, they can’t make everybody in the world a victim of some sort or the other. You’re exactly correct.

        23. Its kind of like cheering for the pilot flying your plane to crash just because you don’t like him. Mind blowingly retarded.

        24. Yes. As I noted below, Leftism is the female id weaponized into a political philosophy. I can easily see a woman sneering and hoping for the death of the guy in the cockpit of the plane she’s on, even if it means her death. It makes no logical sense, but I can easily see a woman doing this. Same with politics.

        25. “So you admit it’s all about you. So you’ve no mind for your fellow man nor posterity. Ok, understood.”
          Behold! The real truth to liberal politics. Though they say the opposite, this is the absolute bottom line truth – they are more tribal, and if cornered, selfish in their voting than the right. The “greater good” is just a cudgel to convince emotional morons to adopt these short sighted policies because they know that once you taste that sweet government tit in your mouth, you’ll bite down and never let go.

        26. correct. So yes…I don’t think there is a universal right to healthcare. But even if there was, trying to enforce it only makes things worse. So are we going to be so blind as to shoot ourselves in the foot because of some theoretical right that people are entitled to and which not everyone even agrees exists?

        27. I don’t believe in any rights that require electricity.
          Nor do I believe in rights that require sticking a gun in the face of innocent people. Like, for example, universal health care.

        28. I just want everybody to die, except me, and a couple thousand hot chicks. Is that so wrong?

        29. You need not look further than your family for proof. Decades ago my finances were sandblasted by marriage and divorce. I went from one who had it made to a recipient of family shade. That stung, but it didn’t derail me. Ironically, a family member who scored divorce goodies, plus loads of sympathy for having had “a rotten husband” went through her windfall and then some while black sheep me methodically and obdurately persevered to survive, strive, invest, and prosper.

        30. We have to get away from this Democrat bad / Republican good and vice versa thinking. How bad Obama was is completely independent of how bad Trump may or may not be or how bad Hillary would have been. Trump may be horrible, and still a better choice than Hillary, and still an improvement over Obama. Or he may be great. But this either-or thinking has to go. When one party is criticized, it isn’t an endorsement of the other.

        31. *insurance*. You can’t lose your health *insurance* under the ACA. Health care and health insurance are two very different things.
          In my mind, the biggest problem with our health care system is health insurers, and the ACA doubled down on giving them an even bigger role.

        32. I actually believe freedom from sickness / debilitating illness falls under the “right to life” where government protects only life, liberty, and the vague “pursuit of happiness” and does nothing else.
          So in that scenario, I think basic treatment of illness should be guaranteed the same way less important things like 12 years of public education, paving of roads, operation of libraries, liberating foreign peoples from their governments in armed conflict throughout the world, etc. are.
          Frankly I’m a little surprised to see kneeman positing this argument because it’s a quite weak one. First, there is the practicality–if you are just treating basic health issues, unless you have the economy of Somalia, you shouldn’t have any trouble paying for them. Sure, you don’t need to cover vaginoplasty and transdoodle therapy, but basic health costs being too expensive for society to handle is not rational. Indeed, America with its insurance-driven system, spends MORE per treatment procedure than countries with a universal medical treatment system.
          Secondly, one could make this same argument about anything the government provides–and in many other areas it does make some sense. Perhaps we should disband the military because the cost of keeping Americans safe from countless groups everywhere who hate them is simply too expensive (the US military budget is now approaching the entire cost of government when I was born).
          Or maybe the cost of public schooling could spiral out of control, as clearly a lot of people are graduating barely able to read or write, so if we are going to ensure that high school graduates actually have some knowledge and skill, it could take years more instruction and hundreds of billions of dollars.
          The point is these things are not disbanded simply because theoretically their costs could be too high.
          (Now, on the OTHER hand, one could argue that we would be much more safe with a tiny defensive volunteer force like the Swiss have, and that we would be smarter if we disbanded the public school system, and yes, perhaps if we went to a basic pay out of pocket system for medical care like we had prior to the 1960s, perhaps medical care would be better for everyone.) But this is an entirely different argument.
          But the difference with medical care is if you can’t afford it, lets say you get some rare disease that requires big extensive treatment, and you don’t have the savings in your pocket to pay for it. Does society just let you die? Many times I wish society would take such a “natural” point of view on issues, but I’m not sure I would want it here, and clearly our collective values are far away from that type of answer.
          Finally, I’ll say there’s little convincing to be done on issues like health care, much like with abortion. It boils down to how you value things. If you consider health care part of a “right to life” you think it is of prime importance and want access for all. If you don’t, then it’s just another product or service and it’s silly for the government to be involved. What we have now is the worst–an ineffective mix. Pick one system and implement it.
          Likewise re: abortion it comes down to when you believe life begins. If you believe life begins at birth, you probably have no problem preventing a birth from happening. If you believe it happens the moment sperm meets egg, then you view abortion as manslaughter (stop calling it murder–that’s disengenous). I think few people will change how they classify these types of issues, unless they go through a traumatic illness or turn into a faetus.

        33. There is no right to life that includes using a gun to force others to support your life.

        34. I personally agree, but that’s how the entire US government, and the governments of almost every nation on earth, funds just about everything that they do. Ideologically, I want a system without coercive taxation. Realistically, I live in a world where I at least want my taxes lowered and administered efficiently.

        35. It’s one thing to be against taxes for this that or the other. I’m with you there. It’s another to declare a human right that depends on harming others, it literally contradicts nature. There’s the difference. The 1st Amendment doesn’t require people being forced to buy me a printing press, the 2nd doesn’t require people to be forced to buy me a gun.

        36. I think your point here is fair…totally, and I tend to agree with it on the caveat that we separate out certain basic health stuff. I would love to say that everyone should be able to get top notch health care too. We will step aside vagioplasty/transdoodle stuff because we can talk like two humans who are morons. There will be more legit questions. I would say children should be vaccinated for free (and by law) but a lot of people would disagree. The problem is implementation. You use K-12 education as an example. And this is a very good example because while it does seem like something we should be able to do it gets fucked up far more than it works and private schools are almost always a better alternative to public ones for most kids in the same way that private doctors will always be better than public ones. If you could explain to me a practical way to make sure all americans receive top notch medical care that doesn’t turn the medical profession into soviet architecture and that doesn’t total ass fuck the economy I would say great. The treatment I received at HSS for my knee surgery was, frankly, astonishing. There is a fair chance that if I had to deal with the injury I had using the social medicine in a European country I would not only never have been physical again I would still be walking with a limp. There is a reason that Europeans with money come to NYC when they are sick and it isn’t to take in the sights ya know.
          Abortion is a hot button topic here I know. I am firmly on the record as being pro abortion. That said, I would be fine in your idealistic system where everyone gets top notch medical care and it doesn’t totally destroy medicine and the economy, to say that abortion is an elective procedure and not covered based on varying moral beliefs so you will have to pony up your own dough to get rid of that womb poo.
          The problem is that if there is a way to do this successfully it has never been done before. I am not smart enough to see how to make it possible. If you can do it go right ahead. You have my full support. But until then, the fact of the matter is that privatized medical community of the US beats the socialized medical communities in other 1st world countries 10 times out of 10.

        37. We will step aside vagioplasty/transdoodle stuff because we can talk like two humans who are morons.

          Damn, talk about a back handed compliment!

        38. Re: It has never been done before, I saw some program a while back (this was before the ACA)–I’m thinking it was on Frontline, anyway, it profiled 5 different countries and 5 completely different ways they handled their health care system. Each had some pros and cons, and each seemed to me a better system than we had (and this was prior to the ACA!).
          I don’t think it’s too hard to take the best from each of these systems and assemble them into a superior working model here. And I’d say that for the most part those nations had “fixed” the problem as their citizens were healthier and happier, with a lower medical bill than Americans at the end of the day.
          Just a few things I recalled: One nation paid its doctors based on how healthy his patients were, not based on x procedure times cost y, so instead of being incentivized to perform lots of procedures, he had a financial interest in getting his patients to quit smoking, work out, etc. so he would do things to actually get these results.
          Another was some Asian country that had a very high tech system that relied on lots of testing and technology, and because these machines were being used so often, the cost of running a test on them was a fraction of what it was in the US. So an MRI might cost $50 instead of $500+ in the USA. People could monitor their health and catch problems faster, so it was an efficient system.
          I’m pretty sure the Swiss system was part of it too, though I can’t remember any details from that one.
          Of course there is the intangible stuff–how much more productive will a guy be when you get rid of his constant back pain, or how do you quantify the happiness of removing some dudes hemorrhoids–stuff like this can’t be measured but improves both the quality of life and the economic productivity of people. You can actually have a positive return from treating medical problems, though it’s not really in the employer’s interest to pay for it, as the guy could quit tomorrow. On the other hand, in a capitalistic system with public retirement benefits, there is an incentive for them to die between about 67-70 so that they don’t receive their pensions.

        39. I’ve found that the only time socialist programs come even close to working in even a half assed decent way is when you have a monolithic culture. So Japanese serving Japanese you can spur on the whole “we’re in this together”. The multi-cult places though, especially those un-moored from their founding principals, have no common frame of reference, and everything becomes a fight in the arena by a pack of dogs over a small piece of meat.

        40. it is interesting to think of for sure. I don’t know. I guess I have a very insulated view. My health care is very good. Because of this I think that health care in America is just great. I am pretty selfish that way. If it took a 10% decrease in the level of care I was getting to help hundreds of thousands of people with no health care I would not be on board. If you say there is a way to make this happen that will give everyone top notch medical care and not harm, make more expensive or make more inconvenient the care that I get I am interested.

        41. not what I meant…just saying there is a base line of respect amongst the men here that we don’t have to verbalize an exception for getting dicks chopped off when having this discussion. Don’t be such a muck raker.

        42. I’d agree with that, and most of the 5 countries above were homogeneous. The time I see socialist programs as appropriate is when the timeframe / payback period is too short for capitalism to be interested in it. There is no benefit to a health insurance company to spend their resources instilling good healthy habits in a 25 year old, so that they won’t have bad health problems at 55. The patient can switch health providers at any time, destroying the opportunity for payback on their investment.
          In a homogeneous society, everyone wants everyone else to be healthy and happy. In a place like the US, we’re much more every man for himself (although I really really do want to see more thin women, come on, it’s getting out of control).

        43. Yea, I like to think of it as game board pieces. Do I want to play my Career Politician in this move, my smooth talkin lawyer, or my business man. Businessman is a new game piece for us home gamers. Then again, I’ve personally been preaching for 20 years we need a business man in office. The challenge is how to position oneself to retain the best personal outcome no matter whose in office, yet still keep your scruples and morals in check.

        44. I was lamenting the exclusion of the word “not”. Heh.

        45. Yes, you bastard.
          You or some of them hot chicks are gonna unclog the toilet, dispose of all the trash like empty pizza boxes (they’re empty because all the guidos who knew how to spin a pie got erased by your fantasy), not to mention no one left to stomp the damn grapes and make wine, etc, need I go on, you fiend?

        46. No need…I see the error of my ways. Maybe the elite will give me an island somewhere. And a few hot chicks. Hey, a guy can dream.

        47. Well, I think now that Donald “Geezus Kriced” Trump is coming in, he might give you Epstein’s island if yer willing ta drain da swamp, there.

        48. Haha! “Drain the swamp.” These slogans that politicians come up with. Like D.C. will ever get drained. Our wallets, yes – the swamp, no…

        49. The only “swamp” that gets drained is The Donald’s rump, when he gets that colonic tonic after inauguration.
          He’s letting Mr.O’s therapist stay, Trump thinks he’s “treemendus”.

      2. Trump was always thick with the elites, or rather some elites. You’re a Clintonite, so you hardly get to be self-righteous about that – she’s still the devil when it comes to being in bed with power. Trump on the other looks like he’s compromising in order to ensure he has a support base amongst the powerful. One thing I noticed though is that GS banned top employee Trump campaign donations http://fortune.com/2016/09/06/goldman-elite-trump-pence. You can interpret that as a pro-Clinton stance, or as anticipation, ensuring they didn’t compromise their chances of a place in the new administration by appearing to buy influence in advance.

      3. Nah, there’s a possibility that Trump makes it worthwhile for the billionaires to hire US citizens, friend.

    3. its always good for them.
      but, just maybe the manufacturing jobs will return — there is some immediate reversal with Ford and Carrier.. there is a chance for prosperity…
      And Goldman can win by financing the factories…
      With Hillary I would think no chance…
      Either way the mansions are mostly empty, and the hot chicks are walking around NYC…(and not taken by Asian guys)

      1. I am Asian, kind of. Trump can do a lot of good things, and potentially having elite support isn’t of harm in itself, there can be a cost to doing a deal with the devil. We should be realistic, but be prepared to get critical if he doesn’t deliver or seems to talk the red pill while behaving like an sjw in his actions, good forbid

        1. the Asian reference
          re: a guy complaining yesterday about Asian men taking all the white women…
          How many you got?

        2. “He never lost his head, even when counting those white broads giving him head…” – with apologies to the late (((Lou Reed))).

        3. I should probably know, but do white girls go:
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  6. This is ridiculously overly optimistic. We still need to make this happen which will require years of struggle from many people to achieve and even then it is not guaranteed.

    1. My teacher friends do not like his secretary of education, Devos.
      She is a Billionaire,
      and the sister of Eric Prince, owner of BlackWater…
      Getting interesting…
      The liberals think “inexperienced” Billionaires who don’t pay their “fair share” of taxes are wrong for the job…
      So they must be better

  7. So far in my lifetime, if Trump pans out as predicted even 25%, then it will be the SECOND time. Reagan, you see.

    1. Was reading some quotes from Ivanka’s self help book from a few years ago. It is just fantastic. I particularly like it when she talks about how she didn’t have all the advantages of other children because growing up in Trump Tower she couldn’t learn business sense by having a lemonade stand. However, she finally got lucky when she went to their summer home in CT and she could sell lemonade to the bodyguard, driver and housemaids. This handicap, she says, made it really hard for her when she was on the Trump board as people expected her to know things simply because she was trump’s daughter and it was all very unfair.

      1. You know, that’s really not an invalid position. It’s good that she’s self-aware enough to understand that at some level. The “unfair” thing I don’t care about, but the overall thing she noticed has a kernel of truth to it.

        1. Normally people in her position get the best education from schools and from family members/friends. If she doesn’t know things its because she doesn’t give a shit.
          This book is a retroactive excuse for incompetence.

        2. Good fucking lord Bob. Learning something from a book does not mean you have experience. That was kind of her point, she had no real experience.

        3. yes, I will start feeling bad for all ivanka had to overcome in her life as she tells her story of woe as soon as I am none with pitying Pabst because he is losing out in the sexual marketplace due to the tragedy of being white

        4. I just think that she made a valid point about experience. I can see that being an issue for most of the elites, which in fact, is one of their major downfalls and why they constantly get things wrong. They know a lot in the abstract but, lacking real life experience, are actually handicapped when it comes to real life policies.
          I don’t feel sorry for the girl, just noting that she’s not actually incorrect in her observation (and I really don’t give a care about her feelings).

        5. Nope. Don’t buy it. I know these people, have worked with them. The ones that don’t know, don’t care. Whining that you don’t have “experience” will earn you a slap and a sarcastic “I care” face from people who didn’t have your advantages.
          Btw, did you notice that I said “education” and not “books”? Not the same mate.

  8. “In 1920s, the US experienced a period of unprecedented economic prosperity, rapid advances technology, and a sense of destiny.”
    What a sloppily composed very first sentence to the article. Also I’m amazed the editor missed that too. We gotta step up to a golden age of 1st rate sentence structure and grammar if this site wants to stay relevant through the Trump years.
    I’ve just been spotting too much of this kind of stuff lately.

      1. 9 times out of 10 this is right. However, wrt prepositions at the end of a sentence I side with Winston Churchill. “This is the type of errant pedantry up with which I will not put”

        1. Grammar is a funny thing. English grammar is an invention of the 19th century. There was zero formalized grammar prior to then and generally our grammar went from formal (French influenced) to very harsh to the modern ear (our Germanic roots). The French notion won out, but that doesn’t mean that the Germanic root base is really wrong either, except that some pedantic little fucks sat down in the 1800’s and declared them wrong. In all reality, we should have followed the Germanic roots to be consistent with the base of our language, but chose not to for reasons that never seemed clear to me.
          Now all that being said, as far as a “rules in place” notion goes, if formal writing is supposed to follow the standards set down in the 19th century, then it stands to reason that it’s fair game to call out writing that does not conform to those standards.

        2. My grammar could write like a demon. “Don’t touch the pie” – sticky notes on the icebox. Sigh. Those were the days…

        3. They try to teach Spanish the German way in schools both in the UK and in the US. Its a disaster.

        4. Because we chose the Latin influenced path of grammar. I don’t disagree with you.
          I actually really admire the original Saxon tongues and dialects. Very beautiful stuff. Too bad Hastings had to happen.

        5. As an attorney who makes my living writing all day, I could not agree more. Sometimes the rules stand in the way of effective communication. When they do, they should be discarded. And, if you pay attention, this is exactly what all the best writers do.

        6. I’ve stood on the spot where Harold died. William respected his fallen enemy and errected an abbey to his memory.

        7. They told me to get a strunk and white but I misheard and thought they said get drunk and write.
          I know what you mean. The problem is that there is knowingly breaking rules for style purposes and not knowing the rules and essentially making doodies on paper. THe first is the sign of a true expert. The second is the sign of a guy who makes doodies on paper

        8. That’s true in art as well. We don’t admire Picasso because he simply put some triangles and squares on canvas and made them represent people, any child can do that with scissors and craft paper. We admire what he did because he was a fully classically trained artist who knew all of the rules and chose to break precisely the right ones in such a way that it caused a huge conversation.

        9. All rules are made to be broken.
          Or was that, All records are made to be broken?
          Either way, as a person who loves the world of literature and how the written word can move people, I completely second the use of grammar breaking to illustrate a point. Sometimes you need to say it plainly.

        10. there is a difference between understanding conventions and subverting them in meaningful ways to make a point and not understanding the conventions and saying it shouldn’t matter. The first is the mark of mastery. The later is the mark of a lack of brains. There also still are different conventions. For instance, when I was in high school what they taught us was a watered down version of MLA. When I was in college we got strict MLA. When I got to grad school they told us MLA was shit and wanted us to use Chicago Manual of Style.

        11. Sure, but I don’t think that the sentence chosen by Hubert is an example of a masterful breaking of the rules. Heh.

        12. And if somebody in Hastings is making hashtags about Hastings, then we will have reached maximum regret status.

        13. I’m still trying to refine my writing skills – no, I’m not the author of this article, but if you are an attorney, how would you re-write that sentence ?(pasted here) :
          “In 1920s, the US experienced a period of unprecedented economic prosperity, rapid advances technology, and a sense of destiny.”

        14. Right, but that isn’t at all what the writer was doing so this isn’t one of those times. He just made a mistake, not a big deal, you just correct it. There’s a meaningful distinction between pushing or stretching a rule and staggering into it. It’s not a big deal to make a mistake, understand and correct it then move on, the ability to do that allows a standard to be met. Standards are important.

        15. First of all, I wouldn’t omit necessary words like “in.” Second, I wouldn’t try to combine such vague and far reaching concepts into the same sentence.
          Assuming for the sake of argument that I agreed with all of this, I would probably write it more like:
          In the 1920s, the US had a sense of destiny. It experienced a period of unprecedented economic prosperity and rapid advances in technology.
          But even there I’m not satisfied with it because “sense of destiny” is ill defined and vague. What does it mean to have a sense of destiny? I don’t know that I would put it this way. Without knowing exactly what the author was trying to convey, I can’t say how I would accurately write this.
          Also keep in mind that you have to write for your intended audience. Is this in a court brief, in a magazine, on a semi-professional blog, etc….? You have more flexibility depending on the forum and the rules of style are dictated by each. In my line of work, a court wouldn’t even read a sentence like that because it is fluff that doesn’t speak to any important point at issue. So I wouldn’t write that to begin with.
          But if I was writing a piece somewhere else where I’m trying to draw parallels between the optimism of the 1920s and today, I might write something like this, but again, with more precision and without trying to mash so much together. As a lawyer, I’m predisposed to clarity (I know, I know, let the bad lawyer writing jokes commence). If you can’t clearly convey the ideas, you are failing, and I think there is a lot of vagueness in this sentence that should be revised or eliminated.

        16. I see – cool. Even though I don’t write, I still converse here at this forum with a lot of guys who seem to be men of letters.
          I do respect that there is ‘content’ languaging e.g. technical writing would fall under this category. Then there is a ‘process languaging’ e.g. many ad slogans write in an effort to create an emotion in the psyche without giving any detailed information. Women fall for the process languaging most of the times, but men are not immune depending on the target audience of the reader and how the text is written. Supposedly process languaging is what NLP is based on.

    1. Not only that, this is an ironic analogy to make. Its a bit like saying how much your new ship is like the Titanic.

      1. LOL! That’s a wonderful comparison, I had something going on like that when I read it but I didn’t pin it on the Titanic. Well said.

      2. Bob, bad sentence structure aside, this is EXACTLY what this article is saying. This is an article saying that we are not just getting into a nice new titanic like ship but that we are going to return to the Titanic’s former glory. smh

    2. “What a sloppily composed very first sentence to the article”
      How would you have re-written that sentence? No, I’m not the author of this article, but I ask sincerely because I myself am trying to regine my skills.
      Here is his sentence again;
      “In 1920s, the US experienced a period of unprecedented economic prosperity, rapid advances technology, and a sense of destiny.”

  9. I’m glad Trump won, but no way in hell should this be viewed so rosy. We have no idea what will happen with Trump’s time in office or after. I could just as easily see him getting successfully impeached in his first term as I could see him going two terms. Even with GOP control, I’m not confident much will get done.

    1. Nothing good whatsoever. A whole lot of Bush and Clinton dynasty.

      1. I was referring to the point in the article where we leapt from Reagan to Obama with nothing in between.
        Reagan was part of the Bush dynasty though…

        1. That’s not fair to Reagan. Reagan got in, Bush was on the coattails. The Bush dynasty didn’t really start until George I took the reigns. Guilt by association doesn’t work in my view.

        2. Bush was running things before, during, and after Reagan. Reagan started following orders once Bush put a bullet in him.
          Not fair to Reagan? He’s a big boy he can take it.

        3. I don’t mean fair in the whiny leftist sense. I meant as a point put forward that clearly is unjust.
          Given your assumptions, you might as well say that the U.S. military during WW2 was part of the Bush dynasty. I mean, hey, Georgy I was in the military during WW2.
          In any event this is a silly discussion. We agree on the major point that the Bush and Clinton dynasties were, are and if given a chance in the future, will be a nasty horrible thing for America.

        4. No I don’t think that you understand. The fact that Bush was Vice-President was not accident or some minor detail of history. He was there for a reason. Think Johnson-Kennedy. And who was in the mix there? Bush.
          Nothing happens in the US Government without significant prior planning.
          You may have forgotten but there was an important event that took place during the Reagan administration. The Iran-Contra Affair. And once again who was all over that? Bush.

        5. Way too conspiratorial for me there Bob. These people aren’t competent enough to run the Post Office efficiently.

        6. All I’ve given you here are facts. If you think that there’s a consipiracy there I’m interested to hear your view.

      1. Those hippies that attacked Panana, Iraq, Somalia, Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan and then… Iraq?

        1. Each one of those countries you mentioned have little military power. Hippies are not afraid to start a fight with a small opponent (look at your SJWs), they are just afraid to do anything meaningful.

        2. Didn’t hippies traditionally speak against invading small countries? Like Vietnam?
          Reagan also attacked Libya and went running from Beirut. Is he a hippie?

        3. So are you saying Johnson was a hippie? Actually the US was in Vietnam before Johnson. What about Dulles and Eisenhower? Hippies?

        4. Actually the CIA got the US into it. Kennedy was trying to get out. Kennedy got shot and Johnson accelerated the war. Funny how that worked out.

        5. Neoconservatives are Leftists, so….yeah, it can be pinned on (former) hippies.

        6. That’s a bit childish.
          Officer: So you stole a bag of candy?
          Child: Yes but he stole two bags of candy!
          Officer: Oh well in that case you can go free.

        7. No it isn’t, there is a difference between a small attack and a long term buildup and committed war.

        8. I hate these arguments, we are going in circles. You see this everywhere on the internet. I fire some points, you fire points, it is like a script. Englishbob, you are a decent guy, relax a bit.

        9. Oh stop it. He was surrounded by neoconservatives and you know it.
          Christ dude, why so pedantic today?

        10. OK OK OK I’m calm!
          I would say that rather than going in circles we are going reductio ad absurdum. The point is here is that the further back we go the more we can see that the idea that any president and his cabinet was a hippie is absurd. Hippies represent the polar opposite of what presidents represent
          The key fallacy here is your assertion that making war on any country however large or small is something that hippies would advocate. This assertion becomes more obviously absurd if you fail to recognise it as such by continuing to rationalise it with suggestions that every warlike government official is also a hippie.
          Make love not war. And there we can square the circle.

        11. Is it pedantic to suggest that a dog is not a cat?
          I’m sorry that logical consistency is so bothersome to you.

        12. You’re in a mood today. I don’t see any value in engaging you further as you’re so wound up and, clearly, can’t be wrong about anything.
          Hope your day goes well.

        13. What I’m telling you is that you are in another one of your solipsistic phases where you never admit even minor error, and you stubbornly charge forward with circular reasoning and moving the goalposts. You’re doing it to others here as well.
          There’s simply no reason to continue to add to the post count just to spin in circles with you. It’s just a waste of time.
          In any event, we’re through with politics on this thread.

  10. Huge mistake to talk about the 20’s with specific refrence to Gatsby as a golden age. The fact the people today think that the moral of the Gatsby story (and of the roaring 20’s in general) is that life was so good like that and we need to return to it is really a big part of the problem.
    The Gatsby tale isn’t a tale about how being a self made man lets you wear cool shirts, bang your high school sweetie and throw awesome parties because you are masculine as fuck.
    Further, statements like “The Trump years promise to be prosperous for everyone living in the US” are more than just foolish, totally incorrect and, for lack of a better word, ditzy, they are also dangerous. If you go into next January with the mindset that Trump is going to totally upend the world you are going to get trod underfoot by hard working realists. All idealists always are. Every time. If you think that a return to the glory or the roaring ’20’s is on the horizon for everyone and that the Gatsby like living is on the way back you are just a damn fool….further, if you think that it would be a good thing you are a damn dangerous fool.

      1. don’t chase vapid broads at the expense of your well being too.

        1. why would you want to meet non-vapid women bob? vapid women are great. I merely suggested not chasing them. Let them come to you.

        2. LMFAO…turns radio volume up car goes right, turns it down car goes left, parks next to fire hydrant…gorges side panels off while giggling and waving bye bye. TRUE BLOODY STORY…..I feared for my life.

    1. What happens, I am afraid, is that many people on the Right are not fundamentally different from those on the Left…they expect someone else to come down from Heaven (or from Washington or whatever capital) and fix their lives, oblivious to the fact that the best thing the government can do for them is to leave them alone and just guarantee basic safety (against criminals and foreign invaders whether armies or hordes of mostly male immigrants) and a good business environment.
      The most terrifying aspect is that if the pendulum swings the other way around, many of the self-confessed SJWs and leftists from today will become your worst nightmare in a ultra-right regime…the worst butchers, torturers, secret police etc, you know the drill.

      1. How about the domestic enemies? You know… the unethical businesses who think nothing of poisoning everyone’s drinking water if it’ll somehow help their bottom line? Or the guys that play the dividends market until it crashes the economy for everyone else? I believe in personal liberty. Unfortunately, too many people have proven too many times that they can’t help themselves from f*cking others if there’s nobody there to stop them. I wish we could scale down the government tremendously, but there are far too many dumbasses for that to be realistic.

        1. I don’t object to a government that has the wherewithal and the will to protect its citizens. However the problems you mentioned are the result of our current structure that enables parasites in wall street and the central banks not only in the U.S. but worldwide, to syphon the wealth of the public through complicated schemes that most don’t understand (inflation as a tax, interest rates, HFT, etc., fiat money) and are possible thanks to the direct intervention of the government on behalf of its friends. Let alone the revolving doors where officials after the end of their administration go on to work in high positions or become stakeholders of the very enterprises they were supposed to regulate (how do you think Americans are forced to consume GMOs in virtually everything they eat and no company is forced to label correctly the ingredients…) or the politicians, immigration and military officials who have abandoned their duty to protect the citizens of the country and have allowed an unprecedented massive immigration in such numbers that assimilation is impossible, at a time where the cultures of our countries are being torn apart at the seams by a cultural revolution. T
          I don’t have the solution to the problems associated to the human nature, but “more government” hasn’t helped so far…

        2. Thanks for your well thought out response. Good points. I can’t argue with any of them.

    1. And right on cue, the doppleganger of fatherofthree shows up after a long absence, just a day after fatherofthree shows back up.
      Can we at some point have a discussion that doesn’t go straight to “jews jews jews!!!!!” Can you people just let it go for once? Jesus.

    2. I don’t know. I don’t trust this. THis seems like something Albionic American would say but we have had some breeches lately. I am going to have to guess that this is someone pretending to be him.

  11. Totally unrelated, but: “A Trump sat on a stump – the stump thunk the Trump stunk, the Trump thunk the stump stunk.” (Bet you can’t say that one three times, fast. Pretty tough, eh? Toldja.)
    ***Note: Okay, so this happens on my end all the time. When I posted this comment 20 minutes ago, everybody was making comments, responding to comments, it was fast and furious. After I posted this, it was as if everybody stopped commenting at the same time. The commenting stopped. 20 minutes later, not a single person has commented anywhere. I see this happen over and over on my end. My question is, does anybody else see this happen?

      1. Seriously though…I just wonder if anybody else has this happen, because it happens to me pretty much whenever I come here and stay for a decent length of time…might be some sort of processing lag at Disqus.

        1. Eh, I think there’s a natural ebb and flow. My comments go straight to post, every time. We all work day jobs (you wouldn’t know it reading how often we post), sometimes shit just happens at the office, or attention lags here.

        2. I’ll get mathematical here (because I love math – heh). Let’s say 20 people are steadily making comments in a thread. And all of them stop commenting at the same time. The odds of this happening are staggering. Way higher than the odds of flipping a coin 20 times, and having it come up heads (which, by the way, are 1,048,576 to 1). If it happened once, it would be a miracle. For it to happen virtually every time I come in here and stay longer than an hour? Well now…that’s impossible, in terms of it being a series of random coincidences.
          So let’s extrapolate. The math proves it isn’t random. So there is a mechanism in place, that makes this happen. It is probably either a throttling mechanism (artificially suppressing comments), or it is a batching/collating issue, and there is a lag in play. We’ll never know for sure. But I’m betting on throttling. And as some of you may be aware, betting against Uncle Bob tends to make a guy go broke in a hurry – wink.

        3. I stopped posting this entire time too Bob. Went onto other threads (where you’ll find some people commenting). Sometimes, everything that can be said, will be said, and all the parties will have said it. I don’t think that the odds are that against it at all. Look at Quintus’ articles, they normally get < 100 posts. Great articles, but he covers so much so thoroughly that you can’t really post much there outside of “Great article”.

        4. You wouldn’t happen to be a Taurus, would you. I guessed lolknee as a Leo (correct), and Tom Arrow as a Gemini (correct again). I’m going for the trifecta here…

        5. Nope. What about me strikes you as that random zodiac sign?

        6. My personality is more a function of my upbringing and choices, than a random star which I was (not) born under (the modern zodiac is completely out of whack). Heh.
          I don’t mind telling you, but it won’t be on a public thread. Because doxxing.

      2. There’s a joke in here about Bob being responsible for the spate of recent expulsions, but I’m afraid to make it lest it get misinterpreted and/or draws an overreaction.

  12. All countries become somehow politically sane…except for Germanistan and it’s ruling Hosenanzug.

  13. The most certain death-blow to the SJW regime would be electing Ivanka Trump in 2024. Robbing them of having their own as first female President and redefining what a modern American woman should be, feminine, beautiful and classy.

      1. The Don is already setting her up for the job. Mark my words, Ivanka is hated by Democrats.

        1. That’s too bad, because she’s still all about their policies.
          Personally I’d love if Don Jr. gets the nod at some point. Donald Sr. is fuzzy on the whole right wing stuff, but his son is a tried and true right winger, avid gun owner, avid hunter, etc.

    1. That would be nice for PR purposes, but do we really want a woman president? Honestly, do you think they are up for the task?

      1. Exactly. Except for Thatcher, nearly every woman leader in the modern age has been a disaster. Germany and Sweden practically excludes the penis from upper level power now, and they’re fucked.

        1. Eh, she had her problems, but at least she was passably competent. Merkel, on the other hand, is all about Teh Feeelz and Teh Guillltzzzz and is thus destroying her entire ethnicity. Feelz is never a good way to govern, and I’d say that 99.999% of women are incapable of separating feeelz from “thought”.

        2. Funny thing about thatcher. I knew a girl…maybe back in 99/00….she was the sister of my friends wife. She had one of those 100 year land leases in London on her flat. You know, price of condo goes up as the lease gets closer to being finished out. Has to do with how the crown owns loads of shit. Anyway, she was a lefty academic. She happened to live in one of the areas that got lucky when Thatcher released the leases so she went from being in a moderately priced lease in a nice part of London to owning what turns out to be a very expensive home overnight. She promptly sold that and moved to Provence, France When I met her she was living in this great little house with a big lavender garden. She was about 10 years older than me. Anyway, a bunch of us were having dinner and she said “i never much liked that Maggie thatcher, but she made me one rich bitch so cheers!” It was the most sensible and sane political toast I had ever heard.
          I am not sure the exact details about how the leases and the lease forgiveness program worked out. I was hearing it all when she was saying it and had been drinking quite a bit of calvados. But fuck, her new found love for thatcher made plenty of sense to me at the time.

        3. Maybe we should all commandeer a shanty ghettho public housing unit, in case Trump deeds them over to us. There is an ugly housing project in a great part of town just up the street from me…

        4. Not sure what your town is, but in my town people who had that idea and the balls and resrources to act on it in the 60’s are now billionaires, in the 70’s are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, in the 80’s worth tens of millions of dollars and in the 90’s easily retired as millionaires now.
          Even people who did it in the naughts are very, very well off.
          There is no crown other than the market here so you have to make your own way

        5. Golda Meir had a pair of nuts on her also no matter your feelings for Israel and their politics.

        6. I know the name but I don’t know the woman. I try to stay out of the “Jew!” things here. I think that a healthy discussion of the inappropriate role that Israel plays in our politics is fine, and there’s clearly a strong Jewish influence in socialism and feminism that is so easily demonstrated that it’s laughable to deny it, but I like to approach these topics intellectually, not from some “Hate dem Jews!” standpoint, which many engage in, alas.

        7. Perfectly understandable. There is a certain element of perniciousness and pervasiveness from members of that group vis a vis feminism. socialism, mass media and the like so it is normal to be skeptical as with any other perceived threat to your liberty and rights.

    2. fuck that. this whole presidential nepotism needs to end. On a certain level, I find it great that both Obama and Trump were elected, to break up the whole Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton cycle we would have ended up with. Trump gets elected, great; I don’t ever need to see another Obama or Trump in office again after this.

      1. Well, we have common ground on this. Very good.

  14. With the Holidays upon us, I thought I’d recount part of a very one-sided conversation I once had with a gay, liberal, college professor from Cornell University (my ex-girlfriend’s brother), on Christmas Day about nine year ago.
    Everyone was sitting around the kitchen table after Christmas dinner at my ex’s parents’ house, and the professor was holding court. His proud parents were there, along with his then-boyfriend, and several other people. He was belittling the views of pretty much everyone who didn’t agree with his perspectives, while he went into great detail about exactly what his perspectives were (on pretty much everything).
    Somehow or another, his screed turned to mysticism. He made a comment about Carlos Castaneda, the author. And his comment was flat-out inaccurate. So I made the mistake of pointing it out to him, in no uncertain terms.
    Having lost face in front of his adoring entourage, he began to attack the messenger (me), instead of the message. (This is a typical angry-educated-gay-man response to people who question their omniscience, as some of you may have noticed.) He cut me down to the left, he cut me down to the right. I took it all in passively, and didn’t say a word for about 10 seconds after he’d finished.
    Finally, I asked him how many languages he spoke (he teaches Asian religion at Cornell, and I’d heard he was quite the linguist).
    “Seven,” he said proudly.
    “How fortunate,” I countered. “You can say ‘I’m asleep’ in seven…fucking…different…languages.”
    You could have heard a pin drop. His dad suppressed a laugh, but everybody else acted as if I had just referred to Jesus as Charles Manson. (Happy Holidays, gay boy!)

    1. a gay, liberal, college professor

      Oh, how nice! How is Mr. Obama doing these days?

      1. He was Obama’s clone. My girlfriend told me how great my comment had been, after we left the house. Heh. This guy was the most brainwashed libtard asshat I had ever met. I thought his head was going to explode after I told him he was basically an idiot. About time somebody put the gay boy in his place. I’ll bet nobody else ever did. He’s one of those guys. He’s “that guy”. Yeah, an Obama worshipper.

        1. The ability of some smart people to buy fully into the Leftist world view is really disappointing. I don’t mean the cynics who use it for power, that’s understandable, I mean the whole wide eyed ideological worship of Leftism. I know why stupid and average people do it, but smart people, it’s just disappointing.
          I believe that there’s a certain level of intelligence that one reaches where one can start thinking “too much” about something and go through huge labyrinths of logical rationalization and come out on the other end a Leftist. Kind of like how, if you’re really, really bored, you can postulate a hypothesis that no action is possible because numbers expand (or regress in fractions more accurately) to infinity. The man racing the track, can never finish the race, because he goes into an infinite loop of going “half the distance”, if you’re familiar with the argument. It sounds great on paper, but it just doesn’t accord with reality. This is why smart people who do NOT go through these absurd mental gyrations said “Ok, that’s just wrong, and frankly, you need to be smacked on the back of the head. Allow me to introduce you to Integrals”.
          Intelligent ideologue Leftists I think go so far down the rationalization rabbit hole that they totally lose touch with objective reality and if somebody throws a rock at their feet they don’t have the sense to move their feet before it hits.
          Weird paragraphs now that I re-read them, but I’m going to go with it.

        2. It all makes sense to me. I mean, the one thing I have noticed (my sister is a proud leftist), is that they all act as if they are hypnotized. They can be extremely intelligent (if there is such a thing, versus possessing many levels of awareness, depends on how you look at it), but like you said, it’s as if you could throw a rock at their feet and they would not get out of the way. But to extrapolate on that notion, if part of the leftist ideology was that one should never move their feet if a rock were to be thrown at them, well, they would simply absorb the blow. I mean, I suppose a person could say the same thing about certain conservatives, but I don’t see this being anywhere near as prevalent among conservatives.
          Liberals, especially the more educated ones, tend to act like rabid dogs. I am convinced they would kill people who, for example, had the temerity to vote for Trump. I don’t even think they would think twice about it, if a lever was near their right hand, and by pulling it, all Trump supporters would die. It’s some weird sort of mass psychosis, I think. A combination of hooming and homming, soothing voices (like Obama’s), combined with a confounding rhetoric that basically convinces the believer that right is wrong, and up is down. Which, I truly believe, is a major indication that our institutions of higher learning have been turned into shock-and-awe indoctrination centers. Which in turn makes me question how intelligent a person can be, if they buy into the whole thing.
          It’s some scary shit. I am convinced my ex’s brother would have shot me right then and there, had he possessed a firearm on his person. Now, I can’t stand libtards, but that doesn’t mean I’d pull that hypothetical lever I was talking about. Even though, hey, due to the fact they have been fully programmed and weaponized without their knowing it, and they pose a danger to themselves and everyone else, a person could damn well make a good case for it (pulling that lever).

        3. In a nutshell, they’re the same people who screamed Heretic back in medieval times. It was almost always the highly intelligent types who went that route, because they were so grounded in the dogma of their religion that they knew precisely what heresy was and thus, felt the need to share it with the common rabble, so that the common rabble could kill the heretic. This is the EXACT same person, and the ideological influence of Leftism has been set up to completely mimic that framework. It’s why facts don’t matter if they’re against the Dogma, and it’s why you can argue with one until you’re red in the face and they’ll still tell you that you’re wrong even after you’ve proven 100% that they are full of beans. They are operating almost wholly on faith, and whatever reason and logic enters their world is only accepted as it supports the Dogma, while anything that doesn’t is ignored as Hersey.
          I also find that Leftists invest their inner face identity in their dogma. When you attack the dogma, not only are you attacking the dogma, but you are also attacking them personally at a very deep and painful level. If the faith is wrong, the thinking goes, then they are devoid of any meaning in life since they identify so personally with the dogma. It’s why they get go so hate filled ad hominem at the first sign of heresy, they see it as a personal attack on their person.
          Of course this kind of thing transcends ideology and can happen in any given ideology, but it is only the Progressives/socialists/communists who have wedded these concepts so successfully into the human psyche of its followers. It’s why they happily burn down churches, bulldoze cities and throw people in front of firing squads en masse. In all matters, the Faith must prevail.

        4. So true. They have it down to an art form, after perfecting it over the centuries. It’s very clever, but it’s implications are frightening. To be a machine, and not realize it. My sister is the poster child for libtards. She teaches music at a liberal arts college. I’m telling you, she is one of the dullest tools in the shed, but because leftist ideology somehow bestows a glaze of intellectualism upon its adherents (just like the Wizard of Oz bestowed a degree upon the scarecrow), they believe that merely by embracing the dogma they have magically become smart. We have a whole continent, half-filled (at least) with these robots. It is stranger than the weirdest science fiction movie ever made, and yet, so it goes…

    2. These people basically change their whole perspective about the world in order to protect their gay identity. It’s paranoia of the highest degree.
      Can you believe it, someone distorting the whole reality, negating facts, only to punch back at people who don’t accept his sexual fetish?
      The person tries to look superior intellectually in order to compensate feelings of inferiority.

  15. We were’t skinny back in the 70’s, we were lean…lol. Having lived through it, I can tell you it was the coolest decade in American History. It was great to be American back then. We had the best music, the girls were cute, the guys were cool. Gays kept it in the closet. It was easy to get a job. I feel sorry for anyone born after 1965.

    1. Me, too. (Feel sorry.) We left our doors unlocked, we knew our neighbors, we didn’t have to worry about being murdered in a drive-by. The girls were nice, and hot, and sweet. They got married and stayed married (most of them; at least the ones I went to high school with). Those were indeed the days.

      1. I have been regaled by such tales also Uncle Bob. Being a product of the 1980s I have been on the cutting edge of seeing the slide into ‘faggotry’ to use the technical term and can only hope this opportunity is seized to right the course of history.

    2. I wasn’t too fond of stagflation or Disco, man. Not that I was old enough to do much about it. On the other hand, Led Zepplin, Rush and Pink Floyd, which basically makes the 1970’s Uber Awesome regardless of anything else bad about it.

    3. You could make a living workin’ at the car wash or driving an ice cream truck back in those days

  16. I work for the US Border Patrol. Two days after the election, a representative from the Trump campaign (administration?) contacted the Chiefs of each sector and the presidents for each sector’s chapter of the Nation Border Patrol Council (the union that represents non-management Agents) to ask them to compile a list of what we need to better do our job. All suggestions are being taken from every Agent that has one. I too agree we need to wait and see, but fuck I am hopeful. In almost 8 years as an Agent, this has never happened nor has the President (or DHS management for that matter) really seemed to give a shit about us. It is hard not to have high hopes that he will turn our agency around (by stopping shit like transgender sensitive prisoner transportation guidelines, female only hiring pushes etc.) and let us do our job.

  17. We are seeing SYNTHESIS.
    In Hegelian Dialectics fashion, we had Marxism and Conservatism. Now we are seeing libertarian economics for the billionaires and cultural marxism for control of the masses.
    Economic, utopical communism was never meant to work, but was only a tool to destroy freedoms and traditional values. Work finished, it can go now. Let’s open Cuba. Libertarianism was never meant to help the small guy and small businesses. It is basically Ayn Rand’s satanism and do what thou will Crowley’s doctrine. Check how think tanks from both sides are funded by the same people. Ecumenism, globalism, they have the same goals.
    What is to profit if Trump help other billionaires to make more money, but does not challenge government controls, oligopolies, immorality, destruction of families?
    What we will see now is the new world order system, with China as the model. Money flowing freely from Shanghai to Brussels, people with private jets being the only true global citizens, and the common folk poor, enslaved and distracted with their smartphone crap.

    1. The elite are not using libertarian economics. They’re not even close. Not even a smidge close. They all use various government agencies and regulations against not only the small fry, but against each other. Their economic system more resembles a feudal court of battling lords than it does anything regarding free market unimpeded by government interference.

    2. The problem with tinfoil hats like you is that you take half truths and then blend them with nonsense, and the result is the complete discarding of the theory as madness, including the half truths.
      The nonsense in your comment:
      1. The elites (which are mostly jews and some white traitors) doesn’t use the hegelian dialectics as you mentioned. They use whatever means to their end, if the mean is today’s capitalism or yesterday’s communism doesn’t matter.
      2. Rand was not a satanist; she was only a jewess that took pieces from OrtegayGasset and Nietzsche, mix them with good old fashioned Classical Liberalism in the economical, and voila: Objetivism.
      3. Crowley was just some drug addicted fag. His doctrines are a joke (some of his poetry is good, though). His followers today are, in the best scenario, 200 people worlwide; and they have no power at all.
      Go back to your basement to read Estulin and Icke.

      1. I am glad to see that we finally get close to agreeing on something Curwen.

        1. I’m not sure what that means but if you’re coming on to me forget it pal

        1. Crowley, like most of the people involded in occultism, satanism, ‘magic’, etc was a seriously disturbed individual. His teachings clearly are the product of his own mind, not a product of ‘divine revelation’ by Aiwass/Horus/TheGreatPumpkin/whatever.
          Now, since The Beatles (Sgt. Pepper’s) his image, imagery and teachings has been used profusely, especially in the music industry, for schock value. This is the reason tinfoils hats like the above think that his teachings are, somehow, part of the Elite’s doctrinal corpus.
          There is a ‘occult’ element in the Elite’s organisations, of course. Masons are most clear example, and recently we saw the (((Ibramovic))) Affair; but that is only the ‘vibrant’ and ‘colorful’ part of their doctrines; and not a majority current within them.

    3. I think there is something to be said of your comment. Or I could just keep hoping trump was an unpredictedable X factor that the email lites didn’t consider. But I know better.

  18. I take a very different view: that Trump was chosen by the Deep State to lead America in WW3. Then, when all is done and dusted, the blame game will attribute the catastrophe to populism, conservatism, cash, organised religion (the true target being biblical Christianity), patriotism, in sum, everything the Deep State hates.

      1. Yes, I really hope we go through nuclear war, especially now that I have 2 young children whose bodies would be particularly vulnerable to radiation in the atmosphere. I also hope to see many or most of my friends and family perish.

    1. Yeah, but “change.org”. It’s like reading Pravda from 1972. There were great expectations for huge bumper crops and unparalleled factory output for 1973.
      Nothing is going to happen with the EC. That’s just to keep the Left masturbating to their posters of Castro while they dream of a complete overthrow of a legal election.

      1. Well, okay, change.org is just the piece that I happened to hold up to highlight the point. My eyebrows are raised at the scope of the effort behind this idea.
        I agree with you, and (right now) do not believe they will be successful in influencing the EC to actually install Hillary. I’d like to be mindful though that a gap still remains and there is an effort to exploit it.

        1. There would be no quicker path to a hot ground war within a day of some EC stunt being pulled like that. The Left goes out and protests, when the right gets angry, and we rarely if ever do to the point of real action, we show up with guns.

    2. just out of curiosity: are petitions a real thing anymore? Like are they actually taken seriously? I would think that a yelp review has much more impact than a petition click at this point.

      1. At a federal level they’re nothing but public masturbation in front of friends in order to virtue signal. There’s a site that the FedGov set up to basically troll stupid people into thinking that the FedGov cares. If you get a certain number of signatures, somebody up there will “consider it”. I mean, what the fuck does that even mean?
        At the local level they are used extensively to get candidates and/or issues on the ballot, especially regarding ballot initiatives (“legalize XYZ”, whatever).

        1. by someone will consider it, that probably means they will say “look at all these fucktards who signed this petition” cue laughing. Local level stuff I get they might matter, but how do you really know. I mean, I am no Alfred Einstein when it comes to the computer box, but I bet even I could figure out how to make multiple votes on an online petition.

        2. Local never involves “electronic”, it’s feet on the ground usually centered around a fairly organized group trying to achieve whatever goal.

        3. So you have to show an ID and blah blah blah? I could see that being legit. Show you live in a certain district, give name, address, signature (still not on federal but local) but yeah, any online petition seems like it is nothing more than another click bait survey right?

        4. They’re pretty strict about vetting too. You can sign “Bozo the Clown” on a real petition and it will get discarded in the count. Or you could sign two petitions with the same information, and they’d likely drop both of them as invalid. Usually the grassroots initiatives are generally opposed by the powers that be, so they make sure to “vet” the signatures carefully in order to disqualify any challenges to the status quo. That said, a lot of times those petitions get their stuff put on the ballot if it’s a popular enough movement. And sometimes, they fail miserably and slink away into the night.

        5. That seems more normal. I was more wondering about the online ones. I have always wondered if those were actually things or more like the idiot button that they put on traffic poles so people can press it and pretend they are making the light change faster.

        6. The more sinister possibility is Mr. O. has his henchmen in this “Freedom Corpse” putting the signers of certain petitions into his FEMA gulags.

  19. “This is not the time to develop the habit of snorting cocaine off of some prostitute’s bare backside.”
    I’ll be the judge of that, thank you.

    1. I agree that this isn’t the time to DEVELOP the habit. It is, however, probably a good time to perfect it.

        1. Best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago. Second best time is today.

  20. “…benefits the wealthiest individuals who earn most of their income through capital gains and the poor. …”
    You can go back to Mother Jones now.

    1. That’s gotta be a pro troll job.
      Maybe Modern Beta Male magazine should interview that dude…

  21. Let’s hope that “manliness” you mention makes a come back in Europe and kick the hordes out along with feminism

        1. Quite ironic – you’re Attila the Plungerer, are you the plumber Mr. Trump has contracted to drain the swamp?

        2. I’ve used the plunger for at least 5 years on various forums… Trump… I don’t know… I hope he’ll hire some plungers for that swamp, but I highly doubt. I don’t think he can.

  22. “We might even see a revival of the wood-paneled, leather-chair-furnished men’s clubs of the past.”
    With Roosh’s meetups being threatened as they were, it would be nice to hit feminists back harder by establishing some of these. In fact, as long as Women’s Studies departments exist in every state sponsored college and university in the country, I would go so far as to say they are essential.

  23. early 30’s here, getting divorce due to wife becoming SJW and embracing unamerican views (in my opinion) for this woke successful white male. Wish me luck!

    1. Good luck, Sir!
      May I ask: do you have kids, or have you dodged that bullet with this woman?
      Early 30s? The best years, you are on the top now. With game you can seduce all those women you ever wanted to seduce.

    2. Good call. I would not want want to waste my time with a wife that did not share my world views. Best wishes indeed!

  24. Said it before, don’t be like the hope / change / forward tards that were crying tears of joy when bam bam took office. If couldn’t find success when a D was in office a R isn’t gonna rain down mana from heaven on you.
    A million new jobs added a month for the next eight years is what would be required for a Carter era. Golden would be something like 2.5 million a month. That’s just not realistic at all. Yeah things can be better, when viewed from a total trash substandard.

  25. “More men will hit the gym in a quest to develop functional muscle. It
    will again become acceptable for men to congregate together without
    women. We might even see a revival of the wood-paneled,
    leather-chair-furnished men’s clubs of the past.”
    This sounds silly. Is Trump a bodybuilder or what? I agree though of the parts of men’s clubs and that he talks to working class men, who has been shat upon by the “educated” faggy liberal media for years.

  26. “It will again become acceptable for men to congregate together without women”. Amen !

  27. Wow. I feel truly sorry for you if you think Donald Trump is going to usher in some sort of “Golden Age”. This will be a disaster of epic proportions. And boy do I mean epic.

  28. Quite bleak vision; who said that Trump can’t have a successor loyal to his heritage?
    It’s not about Trump himself at the end of the day, he’s just an embodiment, a representative of what’s already there in the hearts of men.

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