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If Your Girlfriend Insists On A Big Wedding, Dump Her

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In a recent half-hearted troll attack, someone added my Return Of Kings email to the Martha Stewart living newsletters. It was a surprisingly enlightening experience—besides getting some great recipes for my slow cooker, I was exposed to the ridiculous “Martha Stewart Weddings” list, a daily email with advertisements about how to spend more and indulge yourself for “your big day.”

Guys, listen up. If you put a ring on your girl’s finger despite our slut-promoting culture, well-established divorce industrial complex, and pervasive portrayals of married men as incompetent and powerless dweebs, she is already winning the game. Despite all of these advantages, if your woman insists on having a large, extravagant wedding, it’s in your best interests to end the relationship as quickly as you can.

Fancy weddings are the ultimate exercise of narcissism and commercialism in modern society. It’s been observed countless times that women in the west want to get married, but they do not want to be married. They want the year-long attention of being in “wedding planning mode,” culminating in the ultimate party where they are the supreme princess for the day. When it comes to fulfilling a role as a wife and mother, though, they will suddenly balk at any mention of tradition. Her unilateral insistence upon a large wedding reflects especially poorly on her character in these ways:

1. Financial Irresponsibility

The average american wedding costs $28,000. The median U.S. household income is $44,000. For anyone besides the super-rich, how can throwing a big party to commemorate your financial castration at the hands of the state be considered anything but irresponsible? Your sweetie would rather squander money (often much of it yours) on a lavish celebration rather than investments such as buying a house, saving for retirement, or traveling the world to educate yourselves. An expensive, pointless wedding is the ultimate display of low future-time orientation, a bad trait for someone to whom you’re pledging half your future earnings in a legally binding contract.

2. Selfishness

Have you ever seen a dead-eyed man dutifully trying to choose between yellow and goldenrod for his wedding’s place settings? Men don’t enjoy planning weddings. Though they make up half of a marriage partnership (and usually more financially-speaking), a preference for a courthouse or a small ceremony is almost always ignored because it’s “her day.” This sets a poor precedent for future decisions you will make as a couple. If you give a mouse a cookie…

3. Herd mentality

Though the silliness of the modern wedding ceremony are fairly easy to elucidate, women are more susceptible to the whims and opinions of those around them. Disney movies have taught her from childhood that she deserves a grand storybook wedding. Her friends goad her into one-upsmanship by showing off their expensive engagement rings on Facebook and Instagram. Her parents want to bring the entire extended family to the ceremony to show off their success at raising a well-adjusted little girl. And the aforementioned popular media normalizes the extravagance and consumerism of the experience by suggesting she is somehow abnormal or deficient if she doesn’t keep up with the joneses.

If you’ve committed yourself to getting married in western society, you’ve already made a tremendously risky move. If your woman insists that you dump a bunch of your hard-earned money into what amounts to a one-sided victory party, you know unequivocally that she will not make a good partner in the long run. Get out while you still can.

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367 thoughts on “If Your Girlfriend Insists On A Big Wedding, Dump Her”

  3. a preference for a courthouse or a small ceremony is almost always ignored because it’s “her day.”
    Aint that the truth … I was told this “her day” bullshit about 1000 times when my wife and were planning our wedding. Like when my mother in law demanded we get a videographer, at $1500, and I said hell no, she told me that it wasnt “my day” and I said since my wife and I were paying for our own wedding 100% and we decided to keep it under $8k, she needed to butt out.

    2. mother in laws are often worse then brides. My friend wanted small wedding with 20 or so people, her mom invited 30-40 of HER friends. When my friend called to tell them the bad news, her mom said she was a ‘terrible child’. Felt bad for her

      1. Pay attention to the interactions between women and their mothers. The jealously and pettiness NEVER ends between women. There is little loyally even between mothers and daughters. The old, washed up mother is trying to usurp attention from the daughter on her wedding day. Very gross.

        1. I know a few mothers who are laid back as hell though. One of my friends parents just wrote him/her a check for their wedding and did not expect to control anything.

    1. Indeed, could have stopped there.
      There might be one worthy caveat though… She can have the “big wedding”, if she pays for everything. I have no problem with my woman wanting to throw herself a huge party (one large once-in-a-lifetime self-indulgence is ok), but she and she alone will bear the pain of putting it together, and the responsibility for all backfires.

      1. More likely her Daddy will pay, in which case get her to ask him for house while he’s got his wallet out

        2. Yup. Too many Daddy’s a little beta simps who will bend over backwards for their spoiled little bitch daughters.

        3. It is traditional for the father of the bride to pay. What planet are you from? Any wedding presents you keep.

      2. Exactly what I say to my girlfriend –
        Me – Who wants the dishes to be cleaned? Me or you?
        Her – Me
        Me – Then do them!
        Moral – He who wants, has to do it. If she wants a ‘big wedding’, she will have to pay, not me.

        1. Be careful, your next conversation may be…
          Her – Who wants his pole smoked?
          You – Me!
          Her – Then smoke it!

        2. Ridiculous analogy.
          When it is my pole, and I ask her to smoke it, it is called oral sex. She gets my pole as well. Sex is not a one way street
          We must come out of this retarded mentality that sex is a favour that women do for men. If I get sex, so does she. We both benefit from sex

        5. Jazz, you’re either forgetting or unaware of the fact that most of these guys have no clue how to get a woman off. If you suck that bad in bed then Sex is a one-side interaction.

      3. That might be a problem if she accumulates a massive debt you become jointly responsible for. Also, a woman who wants to spend big for one party is probably not a woman worth marrying, even if its her own money/credit card.

  5. It’s vanity and stupidity. I’ve had other women insist that when they wanted to get married, they had to have a bit wedding because “daddy’s princess gets what they want”. Wonder why that relationship never developed far…..
    By contrast the woman I did end up with was able to plan and execute a very nice wedding for about 2 grand.

  6. Simple truth.
    But don’t be fooled by the ones who are just happy to run down to the courthouse and tie the knot. While the special snowflake princess might want her grand wedding and she has mainly the “mainstream trappings” of a typical USDA Grade A issue One Each Cunt with an expected outcome (having 2 kids, put on 80 lbs PERMANENTLY for each 8 lb. baby, then divorce the dad and use him as an economic mule for 22 years), the ones who want to run downtown are to be just as feared and avoided to such level as “running out screaming into the night”.
    Just imagine that there has been a zombie apocalypse that was only infectious for women and all of them have “turned”. The only way you can get bitten and zombified is by marrying one, usually in the same manner as any zombie movie where someone is saying “that’s not your loved one! Can’t you see? It’s a zombie now!” and the hapless fool says “well this one is not like the others”. You know: Not All Zombies Are Like That – eating your brains and stuff like that.
    So those guys you see in the pastel shirt and khaki pants and sandals with socks, with the baby carrier strapped on, or lollygagging along on the highway in a beat up old minivan, they look like zombies, don’t they?
    This article is a good one, but there should not be an article like this, because it’s about getting married, and that institution is dead, just like all of the women.

    1. Playing devils advocate here, never getting married:
      Curious question – so dump the extravagant wanting wedding female, but don’t be stoked on the let’s just run down to the courthouse female ?
      IS there ANY medium ?
      of course besides NOT getting married in the first place lol 😉

      1. The real problem: while men here are playing devil’s advocate, wives everywhere are playing devil’s food cake advocate.

    2. I thought smartphones were creating the latest zombie apocalypse. All these fucking idiots walking down the street, transfixed by all those mind-numbing pixels.

  7. It may go without saying, but you also don’t want to be the beta chump who does the insanely elaborate, months of planning, “I hope this goes viral” proposal. F those morons.

        1. It was scrapped as there isn’t enough wealth on the earth to serve as a suitable dowry for your average ex-carousel post waller.

    1. If you love her ,marry her.
      Reality Dictionary translation:
      If you love her,’sign a piece of paper that encourages her,once she is no longer favors you, to rob ,torture,financially enslave and ostracize your children from you using the power of the State.

  10. I’ve had solid red blooded males get onto this wedding nonsense. The best part is when ever there is another fallen soldier amongst the peer group they are all over it offering up advice etc. If one wants to get married I get it is a big deal but a bigger deal is to try and make the marriage work and in the modern world with all the feminist bush pigs blokes are married to it involves turning into a beta male, simply a shell of your former self. Your entire existence will be to serve your queen.

  11. My ex almost talked me into buying her a 40K engagement ring and was planning our wedding to be at the Plaza Hotel in NYC … holy fucking christ, sometimes I just can’t believe what a beta mangina I used to be …

    1. Did she even realize that $40k is lifetime earnings for some poor people in the world? How about all the little boys who were forced to shoot their parents and join a war over the value of diamonds in Africa, any thought to them as she planned on showing off her overly-large slice of carbon?

      1. hahaha you think that bitch ever thought about shit like that? nigga please …

      2. Actually a great idea is to make your potential bride watch Blood Diamonds (Leonardo DiCaprio). You can sell her on it with Leo, and then let the message of the movie peculate through her little skull.

        1. Yeah,that should work.After all ,those images of starving,famished kids in whichever African shithole have done wonders to stop her from not gorging at Krispy Kreme.

        2. Yeah, that’s a complete waste of time. Do you think the average women cares about the plight of children in Africa? At least enough to make a moral judgement about skipping the expensive wedding ring? The very same wedding ring she needs to make her friends jealous on Facebook? I wonder what her decision will be? Get the ring, or don’t get the ring???

        3. Women work on emotions, you know that, I know that. That movie is hard and awful at pushing the real thing going on down there, in a very graphic way that is aimed directly at the skulls of western women (the movie is clearly targeting women with the message). It’s just a suggestion, based on knowing that women work on emotions (already stated) and that they respond to alpha men telling them how to live (you and Leonardo). Not saying it will work necessarily, but it can’t hurt and might put pause to her narcissistic entitlement for a bit. Plus, it’s a decent flick.

        4. I think you’re better off appealing to her “rational-emotional side.” The better angle would probably be to appeal to her self-interest, specifically the financial opportunity costs of the wedding, ring, etc. Ask her, “Honey, would you rather show off the wedding ring/expensive wedding on Facebook, or would you rather show off the new house?” This will likely get her hamster running. If she says she demands both the expensive wedding and house, run like hell and never look back.

        5. Hey man, I don’t disagree, that’s a good strategy. Throw the whole kit and kaboodle at her, I say, use every tool. Blood Diamonds is basically a huge shaming tool that cracks through heavy entitlement shields is all I’m saying. But yeah, use everything you can.

        6. The best idea is to just not get married at all. I think we are debating a moot point.

        7. That is true, but it will take a whole lot of shaming to reach a Western woman. To be shamed, one must have shame. Shame is clearly in short supply with modern women.

        8. Yeah, women care about social causes when it involves a minimum of personal cost and a maximum of personal kudos. Giving up pretty shiny things in a way that doesn’t trumpet her wunderfuliciousness from the rooftops? That’s not the kind of activism she’s looking for…

        9. Have you not thought about synthetic diamonds? Admittidly it was blood diamonds that put me off mined diamonds, but synthetic ones have the same elements in them, except they’re made in a laboratory, so no one gets their human rights violated during the production… They shine exactly the same as mined diamonds, and are pretty hard to discern from mined diamonds… They’re alot cheaper too, something to bare in mind should you ever find yourself looking at buying a lady jewellery.

        10. While that is true women lack empathy. They could get pictures of the kids who died mining their diamonds and they’d be showing those off in selfies like it was some sort of accomplishment.

    2. AJ you must either have been rich or were willing to stupidly throw away your entire financial future. If the latter then yes, you were a HUGE beta mangina. PATHETIC in the extreme. Glad you chose to come to your senses though. Not enough men do.

      1. yeah I could have afforded that shit no problem but any way you slice it that would have been 40K down the drain …

    3. Shiiii … 40K on an engagement ring. A worthless rock that is actually extremely abundant in the Earth’s crust.
      I had an ex that decided she wanted to have a kid. Her mother also decided she wanted her daughter to have a kid. I entertained marriage with her. She owned three houses, 2 of them entirely paid for, and she had a pretty solid retirement nest egg.
      She told me that I had to buy a house for us and the baby she wanted. After talking about where she wanted the house, I ascertained that she wanted a house in the $1 MM to $1.5 MM price range. The house I had was not good enough for her. I told her I did not feel comfortable taking the down-payment out of my investment portfolio and definitely did want to take on a large mortgage. My house is paid off and it is low maintenance, just the way I like it.
      To further get a sense of what she was thinking, I proposed that I would be happy to buy half of the house that she was living in and we could use that for our family-to-be. She liked that house, so I figured that would be win-win-win. I could buy half without taking on any sort of debt, and she could use that money to pay down the mortgage on another house she owned, thus leaving her almost debt free. Or she could do whatever she wanted with the money.
      Just to give you a sense of how (1) financially illiterate women are (despite this one having a Harvard MBA) and (2) how selfish they are, she said she would not do that. She said she wanted to keep her assets separate!
      I explained to her that cash is an asset also. She would get 50% of the market value for the house she lived in, and she could use that cash however she wanted. There would not be any net loss for her; meanwhile she would be living in a house that she already enjoyed. In fact, it would be better for her because cash is obviously liquid and she could use it for another investment. She could not otherwise take 50% of her house to buy something or make another invest, at least not without a home equity line of credit and pay the interest. She reacted like I was trying to take away her house from her.
      So, then I tried to explain to her what she was demanding. She wanted me to take a portion of my assets and use that as a down payment. My assets from my investment portfolio, which is just another type of asset. Then she wanted me to take out a large mortgage. All to prove that I loved her. I tried to get her to see that this would limit our financial options. She did not care. She felt that “this is what a man is supposed to do.” Huh? Where did she get that fucked up idea?
      Needless to say, I learned a lot from that experience. I moved on. She seemed to write me off pretty quick because I was not willing to fulfill her princess fantasy – which goes to show that a woman can turn her emotions and “love” off and on like a light switch.
      I still have my assets, and more now. And I am quite happy with the house I already owned, which I still live in because there is no need to “upgrade” to more expense. It’s good enough to impress plenty of women into jumping into my bed.
      It really is amazing how fucked up American women are.

      1. Jesus that’s rough, but not surprising. Nice one for not being dumb enough to go ahead and marry her, most guys would still.

      2. Also, this is an excellent example of why a bitch should never, never, never be your fucking investment advisor. Can you imagine all the ill-advised decisions she’d tell you, “go ahead and get him a Bentley for his 18th birthday!” “He’ll be 18 only once!” Hire a Jew (male) as your investment advisor.

        1. You shouldn’t hire a female advisor because they are risk averse but your humor noted and appreciated. Hire a jew? Hopefully you don’t end up with a Jordan Belfort managing your portfolio.

        2. Even Himmler made his peace with the Jews at the end of the Reich. There are some brilliant minds that belong to the tribe of Judah. If there’s shared profit to be made with my investment portfolio and his fee as a structure of the ROI on my portfolio (maybe a wealth manager type, not Hedge Funders), he’d do his best. Jews possess a finance-craft to the other peoples, second to none.

        3. Well, Himmler was a coward. Will his men were literally fighting to the death he was trying to save his skin dressed as a woman. My response was partially intended as an attempt at humor, obviously a very weak attempt. I agree that jews have a talent for making money. They are literally bred for it. The Old Testament/Torah, the Talmud more so, espouse eugenics. In addition,the Church banned usury so they filled the vacuum. That said, many jews harbor an intense hatred of gentiles. Belfort has alluded to this in interviews…..yeah, I was scamming people but they were gentiles so it doesn’t count. That is why Madoff was news. They even came up with a name for his scam, “affinity crime”. Jews do not scam other jews which made it so easy for him to screw intelligent people out of millions of their dollars. I read that he had memberships to 12 jewish country clubs. It was incomprehensible to them that a fellow jew would defraud them. I respect the jews for their racial consciousness an their business acumen. I have known a few and I liked them but I would not trust them with the exception of one of them who was honest about his view of the goyim. Recently, Dennis Prager, a jew himself, referenced a poll of rabbis and their view of gentiles and jewish-gentile relations. Ninety percent of the rabbis agreed that it would be ethical/moral to keep the lost property of a gentile because they are not under the law. That is in accordance with the Talmud.

        4. Jews possess a cultural consciousness not necessarily a racial one. Jewish to avoid their Jewish only diseases, out of survival had to interbreed with us goyim. The modern Rothschild clan is probably more German Teuton and British Anglo-Saxon than they are Ashkenazim. Jewish men to the consternation of Jewish women have been marrying “shiksas” for centuries. Jewish women, more notoriously have been fucking every race of men, much like their counterparts long before the taboo broke for white women to do so. This has had the effect of preventing Jewish diseases, while also conferring Israeli citizenship to the children of those with Jewish mothers. Racial consciousness, no, pseudo-religious/cultural consciousness, hell to the yes. Look at Jewish celebrities such as Natalie Portman or even Idina Menzel, and tell me they follow the tribe’s orders in lock step? One married a real Frenchman and the other a black man. Jews also bred notoriously with the upper-classes and aristocracies of England and even my beloved Germany. Have you ever taken a look at most modern Jews? Bar Raefali, hardly resembles your stereotypical fiddler on the roof Ashkenazi Jew.

        5. I agree but “racial consciousness” is the only term that came to mind. I am assuming your read about the recent genetic study of jewish DNA? 80% of mitochondrial is European, most closely related to northern Italian. I certainly wasn’t surprised. The Ashkenazim certainly don’t look semitic (though the Sephardim certainly do and many of them will tell you the ashkenazis aren’t really jews, the Sephardim got along quite well with their muslim neighbors in Palestine until the Zionists arrive). That said Israel is now requiring a DNA test as one of the conditions of citizenship……..too many Russian gentiles claiming to be jews turned out to be regular ol’ Orthodox Slavs. Yes, the jews have been marrying with European and American nobility (think Chelsea Clinton or one of Albert Gore’s daughters) for centuries. A few years ago there was an article in Ha’reetz that mentioned the preponderance of blonde, blue eyed pilots in Israeli Air Force. I have always found it interesting that Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. usually tends to be Nordic looking.

        6. Hybrid vigor/heterogeneity is very real, and it seems Jews are accruing the benefits of hybrid vigor but warding off and even eliminating traditional Jewish diseases by breeding with the best members of every race. They don’t fuck Islanders fresh off the boat or at least breed with them, they breed with the likes of Taye Diggs or Benjamin Millepied. They are through this same heterogeneity I believe, creating a super-race in Israel. I met a blonde Aryan type, who’d I swore had Teutonic features on the metro, I assumed and started speaking German, and to my surprise she’s an Israeli Jew, here on study. Another incident, involved a half-black/Jew girl, who made it to top of class and runs the fastest times in the 100 and 200 meter dash. The parents of both of these girls are still together, and both of these girls identified as “Jewish,” as opposed to the hybrids here who normally identify with the “hip” and “cool,” black or other side.

        7. I know about hybrid vigor, grew up in a rural area, one of grandfathers was a farmer. Benefits but also costs, you had to be careful because a hybrid can be susceptible to certain disease and some cross some breeds and get worst traits of both. Interesting stuff. I have noticed more and more Jewish/East Asian pairing i.e. Tiger Mom and her Schlomo. I watched an interview with them. It was entertaining watching them try to dance around race. Finally, Tiger Mom became exasperated and conceded that “race plays a small part”.

        8. You are right about Israeli interest in Eugenics. Recently, I read an article regarding increased government investment in eugenics. Same with the Chinese. Eugenics will never again be kosher in the West, the chickens of the Enlightenment have come home to roost.

        9. Exactly that’s why Jews always pick the best of every ethnic group! You never know, you can end up with semi Usain Bolt who’s also a math whiz but can also end up with a felon if you don’t breed carefully. Dumb white girls tend to make this mistake a lot.

        10. I don’t realize he was a mathematician, huh. Dumb the white girls……….makes me think of all those ugly, middle aged british female sex tourists in Jamaica. A truly deluded lot. I would like to know the amount of pounds that find their way back to the island ever year.

        11. I am a firm believer in eugenics, positive eugenics not negative. It’s sort of assumed that lower members of an ethnic group if mated together will produce lower offspring. I would like to see in a controlled setting, what would happen, if members of certain groups with the best attributes of those groups started producing offspring. I wonder what diseases they’d be immune to as opposed to their homogenous cousins, how quick their recovery times would be from certain ailments and also their virility, fertility, intelligence and athleticism in comparison with their homogenous cousins.

        12. So when are you marrying, well, breeding with this Israeli super woman……….or has the deed been done?

        13. No, intelligent men (at least I think of myself as one) are in a catch-22. Yes I want to spread my DNA, but I’m also trying to hedge against the financial risk of marriage. Of course, as a man with some morals, I wouldn’t want to bastardize my children. However, on the other hand I wouldn’t want to get married without certain guarantees in our misandric anti-European Cultural Marxist state.

        14. The “mathematician” part was an assumption based upon the abilities of the “other” parent in a scenario involving hybrid vigor.

        15. That is where judgment comes in and you seem to be a pretty perceptive guy. I can only think of one female that had me fooled and that has been a decade and half ago. I understand the cynicism to some degree but there are many quality women out there. Some of these guys are going to get to a place where they are so paranoid they don’t recognize a good woman. I will go full beta here. I have sidestepped some mines but I have also missed a couple of opportunities due to “she is too good to be true so obviously she is running a game this will be fun I will learn her who she is dealing with”, well, I learned that my read wasn’t as good was I thought it was. I don’t think women are really that good at hiding who they really are. I know that is contrarian but that has been my experience. There are certain tells that they can’t hide. I started out perusing Roosh’s blog and his entries over the last six months are telling. He is in regret mode, that chic in Ukraine. Of course, I don’t believe in the one but quality is increasingly uncommon.

        16. Yes but their natures are essentially the same. There are certain hardcore facets to our biology as male and female that won’t change due to differing cultural norms. Women want security and traditionally, feminism or no feminism, that has been seen as being acquired through a high value male. Her barter for this, is vagina, womb and youth. Now, these motives change entirely, if a woman’s background is… money. Her reasons for liking you may be a little less primitive and more egalitarian. Motives man, motives… are everything. You don’t think if you have a sizeable nest egg and some broke 20 something paired up with you, that this glaring difference would be a factor or motive? I am not going to search for unicorns. If an opportunity arises where I can contractually guarantee to a MAD (mutually assured destruction) scenario, she gets the kids, I get the house, whatever, is a scenario I’d sign off on. Love can come later.

        17. I agree, marriage is a transaction. Yes, women are biologically programmed to desire protection, security. I like women that refuse to pretend to go along with the feminist narrative and will tell you upfront her expectations. You can trust someone with that kind of honesty and who is willing to open state such heretical thoughts. Regarding money, I will never again date a woman that comes from serious money. I don’t know why but I went through a string of women that came from serious money. They had no appreciation of money.

        19. The devil you know, is better than the one you don’t. It’s better to have a rich woman who is like that than a poor one who’d be an aspirant for that lifestyle, and would do whatever it took to get there. This materialistic nihilism and blatant waste is something that most western women uphold as virtue. I could give a shit about her family’s money or hers, I wouldn’t care. I wouldn’t need it. What matters to me are the incentives. A person who has no need for my resources, despite their shortcomings is probably a person that won’t be incentivized by our perverse “judicial” system to divorce me. Again, divorce as a means of “cashing out” would be a foregone ridiculous notion on our wedding night. Incentivize bad behavior and don’t be surprised when it become an epidemic.

        20. Am with you, what is was trying to convey. ‘Materialistic nihilism”? If you don’t mind I am going to cop that term. Materialism rots the soul, reduces existence to acquisition of next trinket. Meaningless existence. I believe that is a large part of the reason big pharma is making a killing, literally. Cliché but as they say “can’t buy happiness”. I will never forget when, after 9/11, Bush 2 told americans it was their patriotic duty to buy, buy, buy and americans bought, pun intended, into it. Consumerism is the religion of americans.

        22. Pumping and dumping is not moral, it’s immoral. Remain single, the world is better off.

        24. Exactly, and that’s why I laugh at those rich betas who have swallowed the feminist propaganda that they are more likely to be loved and appreciated by a woman in their looks range. As if ordinary looking women don’t care about money!
          If i won the lottery tomorrow I’d be prowling for the hottest and youngest pussy I could possibly find.

      3. I’m never surprised at how incredibly unintelligent women can be. Despite their extensive education, they still cannot get past their own short-sighted perception of their ideal world. Good on you for moving on. A woman’s love is always conditional, they switch it on and off, no matter how well you fuck them.

        1. All non-familial love is conditional. How many men are going to stay married or in a relationship with a woman that cheats on them?

        2. The idea that love is (or can be) unconditional is another falsehood. Another red pill truth to remember.

        3. A woman’s ‘love’ will always come with strings attached. They will quickly retract their love for you with those strings if you don’t play ball with their agenda. You would think more men over the course of history would have figured this out. Judging by their behavior, relatively very few men seem to understand this. Biology and the lure of pussy is blindingly strong in men. Nature has a good little racket going.

        4. Of course love can be unconditional, as any non-sociopathic person with a family or close friends knows. But “unconditional” is not to say “without consequences” or “always ready to be a doormat.” You can love someone, while telling them to GTFO and not let the door hit them on the ass. Sometimes, that’s what a person does precisely for love’s sake.

        5. You really have to be a bully with these women, it’s the only thing they seem to respect.

      4. Because of some shit that was sold to them by their parents since childhood.
        Applies to any female from rich Harvard grads to ghetto hoodrats.
        Lose lose situation for them.

      5. “Shiiii … 40K on an engagement ring. A worthless rock that is actually extremely abundant in the Earth’s crust.”
        This is probably true. ROK should do an expose on diamonds, and the fraudulent market associated with them

        1. No, they don’t like that either. The problem is, women don’t know how to be happy, and they consistently shoot themselves in the foot aiming at rainbows. Everything they think they want, they turn out not really to want. That’s why they have historically been under the absolute authority of men – fathers or husbands – who told them what to do and would punish them if they failed to do it. It sounds harsh, but honestly, a lot of women were a lot happier under that system… because the men in their lives loved them better and knew them better, than they did themselves.
          This “companionate marriage” ideal introduced by the Protestants was the beginning of the end. Real men have always known that, since the Fall at least, there was absolutely no point in looking to women for companionship as a “soul mate.” Men had close friends as their soul mates, and women to brighten their day with sex, charming girlish silliness (cute because she had no power to actually enact her silliness in the real world), good food and a happy house. Women got the benefit of being ruled by men who knew they were men, and all the emotional and sexual tingles that came with that. They also got all the rewards of raising kids, and this alone could raise many of them out of the feckless narcissism that characterizes most women. Hence St. Paul said, “the woman shall save herself through child-rearing.”

        2. Actually mate, I have had a number woman say exactly that when they get frustrated (meaning you don’t open up your wallet for their benefit). But you are right, they don’t know what they really want. Really its better for them that men decide this for them.

      8. there are still american women with more solid financial sense…sounds like you just had poor experience with a tyrant. I would always opt for down payment on house versus engagement ring, and I sure as hell wouldn’t make a man ‘prove’ his love to me with money. You can prove your love to your woman with compassion and care…as a team you can solve financial issues together.

    4. If it makes you feel better, I had one(same one mentioned elsewhere by me, on this thread) who’se mom told me(completely seriously), that if the relationships worked I owed her an engagement ring worth two and half month’s salary.

      1. The marketing seems to be working on her. But I thought it was 3 months salary? At any rate, it’s nice to know that she feels you “owe ” her. Jesus Christ. These women are fucking monsters about this shit. Thanks a lot greedy diamond industry.

        1. To be fair, the mom had a lot of “keeping up with the Joneses” insecurities due to some family members that looked down on her having done very well financially. She was also raised in the D.C area, 60’s “preppie” culture and corrupted with every vice present there.
          The worst part? She cloaked it in an unsufferable air of self-righteousness. She’s the top comment at this link:
          http://www.plaingrace.com/2012/06/11/wanderings/

  12. Men in general need to stop fucking around and marry upwards. Find yourself a nice rich widow or divorcee and stay at home the whole time. Otherwise what’s in it for you?

        1. It does happen. My sister works hard to support her worthless, unemployed, drunk, drug addict husband.

    2. Thanks for the advice. Ill go to Dallas one day (I live 2 hours away) and game some rich MILF.

        1. That is full on awful advice. A man who doesn’t own his own life, who is kept, falls into drug and alcohol dependency, sits around on the couch getting fat, by definition has no control over his life in any way shape or form. He becomes a kept animal. Nothing more, nothing less. Eventually she’ll either get tired of your shit and send you to live under a bridge (yay poverty because you have developed no useful skills to support yourself), or she’ll become the boss and you’ll morph nearly overnight into a pathetic omega, unable to take care of even his most basic needs.
          Ever meet a woman who has a “kept man”? Sure at first she takes care of him and tries to “fix” him, but in a very short time holds him in seething contempt. So now, you’re broke, no options in life and she dominates you (and, brother, she will).
          Why would you *ever* advise enslaving yourself to a woman? Christ, dude, that’s just shit advice.

        2. Yeah….staying home all the time is bad advice. If you want to maintain power you need to bring something that the table that she wants badly enough to bow down for.

    3. Yeah, great idea, let the woman have complete financial dominion over you. Sounds swell.

  13. Any insisting on a lavish expenditure is a very bad sign.
    Considering the low quality of most Western women, it’s odd that there has not been more of a movement to revive the concept of “dowry.”
    That is, men should be getting paid by women to marry them.
    Not the other way around.

    1. High quality men get a marriage settlement or dowry. That doesn’t include poor pyjama boys like you who need to go to the Philippines to buy some fugly looking backwoods peasant girl.

    1. At least the Harley would have some residual value to the man.
      The money spent on a wedding is gone, as surely as if you pissed it out of your cock down the local storm water drain.

      1. Also, I think in most places it’s generally legally assumed that when you give a woman a wedding ring, it becomes her legal property even if you don’t go through with the wedding. SO you can’t pawn it or return it if it’s valuable. God, these women have this fucking marriage scam on lock-down. They have all the angles and contingencies covered. It’s SOOOO romantic.

        1. Actually, in most jurisdictions, it is considered as promissory. That is, if the wedding is called off the ring must be returned as it was a promise to marry. There is some cases where I matters who calls it off, but I believe that in most cases even that does not count. However, once you are married that ring is hers as a gift and is not marital assets available for division in divorce.
          I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. I am a twice divorced man so I have some personal experience in this area.

    2. I can’t recall fantasizing about riding a Harley when I was a little boy.

  15. If you have a gf that wants you to use all your vacation time on out of weddings…dump her

  16. i’m a girl and i never want a big wedding- better idea is to put the money into some sort of investments. i’d rather have a bigger ring instead of big wedding, since ring is something to wear forever. and the ring could be sold, if the family is in financial hardship. i don’t believe in joint accounts either. inherited family money stays in the blood.

      1. almost equivalent to “why should men pay alimony even if the wife cheats?” the money belongs to descendants of someone who EARNEd it.

        1. Oh now I understand. I agree. I also think family heirlooms should be returned after end of marriage. I would never keep a guy’s family heirlooms and would hope he would do the same for me if ended in divorce. which most marriages do unfortunately

  17. Man, wasn’t the idea of the business men back in the days great. When they decided to convince ordinary girls they deserve and can have a royal fairytale wedding. It’s so successful that many girls get married only to have on and not for the obligations and contract that a wedding entitles.
    It’s right up there with convincing a useless stones are worth a lot, which also involved convincing girls they need to have it.

  18. ‘someone added my Return Of Kings email to the Martha Stewart living newsletters’
    Oh Martha, she’s a neighbour of mine in Bedford. She’s one of these rare women who looked better in her 40’s than 99% of 20 year old females do.Must be those Polish genes and the fact that she was always sexually active (like Gloria Vanderbilt) lol Or so I’ve heard 🙂
    That average US salary really means nothing because 1/2 the people don’t even pay income tax which means that they are very low paid. Average middle class is really about $100k and in the better areas it’s hard to determine income because a lot of people live on tax free bonds. $28k for a wedding dinner party is really nothing, besides people hold weddings at their estates and don’t rent some venue.
    Wedding dress? Many girls just use their mother’s which has been in storage somewhere and is altered to fit her if necessary. Her betrothal ring the groom gives her? Hmm get grandma’s ring, she won’t be using it now that she’s dead.
    Food at the reception? Tell Mrs. Bridges to make something nice and hire some extra help for the day if she needs it.
    Wines etc? Tell Jeeves to go down to the cellar and bring up enough of the Salon de Mesnil ’75 champagne and the Lafite ’66 for the guests.And have the boys put up some canopies and tents if it rains.
    See? It’s easy. Only the dumb proles make it a months long production.
    That pic of Charles and Diana was a State wedding, aristocrats don’t do this.
    And to you coloured boys: NEVER have a wedding or reception. Have some judge marry you and that’s it. You know that at some negro wedding that someone’s going to get shot or the hair hatted hooligan beasts will get into a fight and you’ll end up spending your wedding night in jail. I’m serious here. A word to the wise.

  19. best wedding is husband and wife, closest 5-10 friends, group vacation!!! Then come home and put down payment on house

  20. An older cousin got married 4 years ago in a “Big Wedding” that he paid for. Now he is paying a huge price as he and his wife are seperated (not divorced). Good thing is is that the wife left him in charge of the kids.

        1. Illuminati aren’t as high level as people think. There’s a reason the only people making their “signs” are famous entertainers…you should be able to figure out what I’m implying.

      2. They are children themselves and at some level realize it? This is a good trend actually, it lets the children have a decent chance to be raised correctly, assuming the father isn’t a wuss.

  21. this article was a nice medium i found. if your girl… big wedding…dump her.
    Key word being ‘BIG”.
    Then of course we have the comments stating if she insists on a wedding at all, dump her. which i think any guy with a semi realistic view of women would think is quite the fairy tale.
    Ive been a reader of the manosphere for over a year, and im talking daily I check it first thing in bed while on my phone. I am very familiar with it and i have found lately that it seems to be going downhill; devouring itself. all these ‘no comments from women or fags’ rules are pretty outlandish i think. most guys on here call them self red pill and/or conservative leaning. if this is the case, why are we afraid of our opponents? let them comment, if they are trolling for reactions then ignore. if they make a good point then rebutt in a complete and thorough argument. the manosphere should be upholding free speech yet it stifles it?! somewhat hypocritical i think. i am strongly sensing a growing presence of groupthink within the manosphere. anyone that suggests marriage is a good idea or suggests there are good women out there (YES, IN THE WEST) is beaten verbally by about 85% of the readership. lets uphold some free speech here gents.
    with that said. i think marriage is a great idea. assuming you find a decent woman with solid qualities and a sound past and secure family. she should be a virgin no doubt, be feminine and pretty, etc etc. i am 21, and absolutely plan on getting married. because I am naive and blue pill thirsty mangina? fuck no. i am VERY aware of the risks of marriage. but shit, we are starting to sound like we should run from marriage like a bunch of chinks from godzilla… who wants to wake up 75 and alone? not me.
    life is short, and if youre religious or not doesnt matter. the whole history of the world revolves around love. wars are fought because people love their wives and family and want to protect them. men work hard to provide because they want their wives and family to be happy and to enjoy life together as a collective unit. the attitude of selfishness that is insanely present in the manosphere does not add value to the world. always taking yet never giving. isnt that contrary to what men are supposed to do? take business, great businesses add to the economy, not suck it dry like some fascist vaccuum. why should men, espcially “RED PILL ALPHA MALES” be any different when it comes to relationships.
    YES, the odds are stacked against us. YES, there are a FUCK load of sluts out there. Is anything in life worth doing risk free? no, it is not. relationships are what you make them. do yourself a favour and be the person you want to attract. how do you expect to find a decent girl to lock down when you spend every waking hour scheming how to find a short term fix. relationships and women are treated the same way as addictions on here, “i need a short term fix [fuck] so i can off put any long term effort involved in the real life i want’.
    find a girl with a stable lifestyle and good mother/father figure, stop looking in whore houses (read: bars), and show a little genuine personality. emotionally healthy women will notice. and the rest is WORK.
    rebuttals are very welcome!
    i think there should be more pro-marriage articles on ROK (maybe ill write one) so we can actually have a legitmate conversation about it like men rather than simply calling it quits cause there are 3.5 billion women on this planets and every one of them is a slut. (sarcasm)
    anyway fuck i digress

    1. I really hope you’re not a female imposter, but if you’re not I wish you the best of luck in your future decisions.
      From a personal standpoint I think you’d have to be insane to get married in the Western world, for reasons that have been mentioned more than once here. What risk is she taking? Why is there a need for marriage today? In the old days you needed it to not get outcast by society, to get a promotion at work, for socially approved sex etc. Women’s lib sure liberated them, but it liberated men too.
      I’ve only seen two marriages work in my life (and by that I mean the man isn’t a simpering kitchen bitch and completely emasculated, and the woman seems content) and they both were from religious backgrounds and things like church and community were a big part of their lives. Marriage has to be about something more than the two people getting married. It has to be bigger than the two of you. Hand on your heart, how many women seem only focused on the wedding day and not the rest of what follows?
      Be with someone long term if you wish, but we are not living in a society that requires marriage anymore, so why place unnecessary risk on yourself? If she really cares about you then she will understand and be with you without needing the wedding.
      For me the best test of if she’s a worthwhile girl is if she’s with you when times are bad. And I don’t mean, the month’s salary got slightly delayed. I mean dirt poor, working your way up and she could clearly be with a more high status male. In my eyes that kind of girl is a keeper, but you can stay with her without a ring.
      If they want a ring so badly they can campaign vehemently the same way they did for feminism.

      1. very respectable comment. and no i am not a female…
        I agree that while many marriages are still together they are not functioning at optimal level as you stated. i would also agree that strong christian ethics can be beneficial to a marriage. and it just so happens I was brought up in a pentecostal church. that aside, i go to church sunday nights and the place is literally BRIMMING with peak SMV/MMV young women dyyyying to be noticed by guys. it is so easy to meet women for the exact reason that if you have a hint of confidence, you are miles ahead of the beta simps that stock most pews. I have ZERO problem meeting women there since developing healthy inner confidence, and to be honest, i lack motivation to look anywhere else, although i do keep one eye open elsewher. of course you have the girls that are ‘born again virgins’ and that garbage but I really do believe there are women in there that would pour a shit load of effort into a marriage and really do want a good relationship. thats why i mentioned for guys to start looking in realistic places.
        nobody here is doubting the fact that skanks abound nowdays. you simply have to look harder, and by improving yourself (the manospheres foundational principle) you should be able to stay ahead of the masses to attract that ideal women. being a high status male is important yes, but wouldnt one of the biggest indications of status be being able to find and keep a great girl? if you can’t find, let alone keep one, doesnt that show a reflection of you at least in someway? (speaking generally here) and yes we can go back and forth about the predatory female but as stated, there are legitimate women out there.
        you also acknowledged that there really are girls who are keepers out there is a relief to me… which means you have hope too.
        in your opinion, what steps can be taken to lock down an ideal woman? i think we need a post on that…. have we ever had one?
        the key is finding them. and most guys here seem to get lost with that before they even take the first step because they are looking where modern day whores hang out. if you were born in the 60’s would you follow bands around and look amongst the groupies for a girl? probably not…

        1. If you’re coming from the heavily Christian standpoint and church going crowd you need to check out Dalrock’s blog. From what I have seen they are more knowledgeable about the Christian courtship and marriage model, but from I can gather from the commenters there it’s that a lot of Pastors have sold out big time when it comes to a husband’s leadership and a wife’s submission. Essentially seems to be telling the men they are at fault when things go bad, so I’d pay close attention to the kind of things your pastor says about that kind of stuff.
          Depends what you define as realistic places. What you have to remember is that a woman will be anything you want her to be until she gets handed the biggest prize of all, a wedding ring, so be careful about their behavior. Maybe it’s genuine, maybe it’s not. I can’t really make much of a promise there. So when it comes to things I don’t know about I look at the stats and they are not promising.
          Where I will disagree with you big time is about a high status male is the woman you are with, that is the realm of women. A man’s status is defined by a number of things, money, looks, strong character traits etc but who he’s dating is not one of them. Think about it, Hitler and Charles Manson never had a single problem getting and keeping women, yet most regular guys do. Some of the biggest scumbags on earth get the best looking women because they have power, that’s the number one thing to a woman, who you are as a person (looks/personality) is mostly irrelevant. Kind of shows you where their priorities lie…
          I acknowledged there must be girls like that out there, but women are susseptable to influence from other women and mass media. You might meet the best girl in the world and she can do a 180 on you in no time.
          As for me, no, I gave up a while ago, I wouldn’t dream of trying to lock down today’s woman it’s a thankless task. I’m still not where I want to be, but I’m a lot closer to the end of that journey than the beginning, but even if I fell head over heels in love I still wouldn’t put a ring on it. It has to be equal risk in my eyes, and as far as I can see women don’t have any.
          Your views on the ‘ideal woman’ are a little concerning because you seem like a decent guy, and that makes you ripe for a real ass raping later down the line. Even if you meet the ‘ideal woman’, remember she is always a woman.
          Finding them? My philosophy has always been become high status and let them come to you. If you’re born into certain things like church groups etc that’s wonderful, but most men don’t have that, all we have is bars.
          In some ways I envy the blue pill man, and if he’s lucky he will never find out just how horrid women are truly capable of being. But I’d rather have found about it by being poor in my youth than frivorced in my older age.

        3. Damn, you basically said the same thing I did, phrased just a bit differently, wished I would have read your post first before committing to my own. Well said.

        4. A lot of people also can’t distinguish between “fault” and “responsibility”.
          As the leader you may or may not be “at fault” for what happens.
          However, that doesn’t change the fact that it is your responsibility to deal with unpleasant occurances and make the best out of bad situations occur.

      2. “i think there should be more pro-marriage articles on ROK.” No, Dimitri. S/he is a divorce lawyer trying to drum up future clients.

        1. Lol think the last thing that needs any help is the divorce industry. Media is doing a job we can only dream of. Regardless of whether you or I agree with it, men are going to be getting married, so you may as well equip them with advice that lowers the odds of it being a shit marriage.
          ROK could afford to be a bit more diverse because a lot of the time it reads like a male version of Jezebel, but yeah there are other blogs from men who are successfully married in the manosphere that are more appropriate for it.
          My biggest problem with those guys is how smug they are that they were able to tie down a woman and not get divorced, and think it’s solely down to them being supremely alpha or some other BS.

    3. I’d argue that it takes more than that. I highly recommend testing your women subtly. Find out what their priorities in life are.
      Does she spend money or save/invest it wisely?
      Is she willing to deprecate herself or harm others to get attention? It is no matter whether a girl is flashing in GGG ad or whether she is too modest to wear a bikini in public. Either says a lot about her character.
      Does she expect everyone else to support her, or does she believe in earning the good things in her life? Believe me when I say that will carry over to her marriage…and determine whether she takes things for granted or works hard to ensure that she gives you a good ROI on what you invest in her.
      Will this girl do things that are inconvenient for herself just because it benefits you?
      Do they value their finances or self-advancement(ie, “mah CAREEEEEEER!”) more than their friends and family or do they sacrifice for their loved ones?

      1. The problem is that a lot of these guys are approaching women in clubs and bars, which are the last place you’re going to find women of character. The other option I see bandied about is cold approaching random women which means the odds are…random…of striking it good, and random with a low chance of success will usually come up with the short straw. Then of course there’s “approached this girl at my job” which is usually an indicator that “mah CAREEEEER!” will mean more than “any children we may potentially have if you get married to me”.
        Don’t see a lot of advice on these kinds of sites about meeting women in places where there are still quality women. Just as an example, if you like astronomy, join an astronomy club, there is usually a small handful of decent, intelligent women that attend these things. No, they’re likely not a “smokin’ hot HB 9.5!”, but they’re good girls by and by. The “smokin’ hot HB 9.5!” is out slutting it up and riding ten dicks a week; that’s not quality.
        Or how about, for example, rodeos (if you’re into the Western thing)? Or cooking classes (good sign there, a woman there will by definition be interested in preparing good food)? Backpacking/hiking clubs? You get the drift.
        TL;DR – You get the quality of woman you deserve, and if you only go places where slutty whores hang out, you’ll only ever find slutty whores your whole life.

        1. Guys need to learn to worry less about what other people think of girls. They also need to remember that how “Hot” a girl is can be very subjective. Make her ass go to the gym and start dressing nicer and a previously plain girl can become smoking.
          In my experience the best women are found either in activity groups or online. There were also some high quality(and very attractive) women that I met through a religious speed dating event. I like both venues because you can narrow your search down to what you’re looking for.
          It’s still a good idea to go to the clubs. You can observe how the game works(learn from watching what the successful guys do), experiment to find out what looks and tactics work best for you, and build confidence by successfully escalating with girls.
          For quality I never had a problem with quality once I got my game up. I learned how to put off an image that good women like(one that says dependable, but not going to tolerate any shit). From there it was just a matter of being in the right place and talking to the ones who either checked me out or that I could “feel” I’d get along with.

        2. Right, didn’t mean “don’t go to clubs at all”, rather I meant to find a decent quality type girl, wasn’t clear on that one I reckon’.
          The “hot” factor, agree. Given the dearth of thin women out there these days, a fit woman with a decent face rises head and shoulders above your typical North American land whale.

    4. For that last paragraph: MGTOW should be called 2LIM
      Too Lazy To Improve Myself. MGTOWs are overwhelmingly, just not willing to go through the extreme amounts of effort required to change one’s natural state from Beta to Alpha.
      Ya know people: Yes, it does suck out there. Yes, most women nowadays are sluts. Yes, the laws are tilted (deliberately) against a successful marriage.
      But ya know what? All of these things mean that there is stiff competition for the few quality women left. If you want to get out of the hell that your life is, the ONLY option you have is to man up and take action. It may take months, or it may take years….but the worst case scenario is that nothing changes in your life.
      And you know the best part? Once you become that you won’t have to go looking for your desires. The women that suit you best will come into your life of your own accord…..because they know(deep down) what they need and that is you.

  22. This article was very good. It was not too long, the material was new, and it gave you an action plan for a real world event that you might deal with. Gotta give props where they are due.

  23. “They want the year-long attention of being in “wedding planning mode,” culminating in the ultimate party where they are the supreme princess for the day. When it comes to fulfilling a role as a wife and mother, though, they will suddenly balk at any mention of tradition.”
    Oh so true….

  24. absolutely positively correct. Usually the women I dated who wanted the extravagance didn’t work out and was glad about it. The one that did work out wanted low key. And all expensive weddings attended as a guest ended in divorce.
    Expensive = narcissism. Don’t do it betamax.

    1. Not sure about some of the math here. Double-counting the thrusts (5.5 in, 5.5 out). Most guys don’t pull all the way out either. And where does the writer get the number 100 as average number of thrusts? Entertaining read though.

  26. Some stuff:
    1. Getting married in western society = one way ticket to family court (baggage fee’s not included).
    2. Money should only be spent on the following things:
    A. Fee’s associated with gaming bitches
    B. Fee’s associated with making more money
    C. Lavish ridiculous and ostentatious displays of the complete utter and meaninglessness of existence (i.e. parade 1000 elephants down major street during rush hour, have 300 midgets juggling molotovs racing on the back of giant sea turtles through a major family park).
    3. Fuck the one time.

    2. Great scene. Too bad the guy’s coke binge/threesome was shut down.
      Robocop was amazingly prophetic about the future of Detroit. If anything they understated what a disaster it would become. At least in the movie there were still a few Detroit police left that would investigate homicides!

      1. An awesome movie.
        I’ve always wanted to use that line, when one of my pussy-whipped buddies brings his GF/wife to a boys event.

      2. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; Hollywood has long been preparing the general population for the future with dramatized pseudo-fictional movies like this. They want to try and mitigate the eventual shock of what is to come. It’s not as simple as life imitating art.

    3. HAHAHA! Fucking classic! Thank you for posting this. I’m glad to see I’m not the only man who enjoys this quote. It’s been an ongoing joke with my buddies for years.

  28. Oh man, this is so true. How can men tolerate this expensive wedding crap? How is the sentiment of almost all men that have actual testosterone in their bodies totally ignored by the media?
    If she wants an expensive wedding, dump that bitch. Even if her father is going to pay for it – in fact, especially if her father will pay for it – you must dump her.
    If her father is going to pay for it, he will quietly or secretly thank you for saving him the expense of being forced to indulge his daughter’s princess fantasy. On the other hand, if you do go through with it, her father will always hate you for it because he definitely did not want to spend that money on something that included YOU.
    Once that princess is married to you, do you think her expectations of you will be any different than the expectations she placed on her father? No. In fact, she will substitute you for her father. You will be required to maintain her princess fantasy. And, like her father (well, hopefully anyway), you wont get any sex in return either. She will view herself as entitled to that indulgence.
    Then, after draining your resources for however many years, she will want a divorce. At which time, she will go from being a princess to playing the part of the wicked witch, taking half of whatever you managed to save by cutting back on spending on yourself (but not her) throughout the marriage. If you have kids, she’ll also get the house – count on it. Plus child support. Plus alimony in most states.
    Marriage is the worst possible form of legal and state enforced servitude you can possibly put yourself into. No piece of ass is worth it.
    *****
    I’m looking forward to one of the ROK writers taking a very close look at exactly what we call “love” really is. It’s not what you think it is. It’s not something that comes from your soul. “Love” is something you leave behind once you get out of a relationship and process the emotions. Believe me, she knows that. She’s been turning her emotions on and off like a light switch for years, as far back as she can remember. She practiced on her father, in fact. Time for men to learn what women already know.
    There was a time when men made a marriage commitment. They didn’t have silly fantasies of being in love. They looked at women as potential mothers. Housewives. House servants, essentially, that a man could fuck and breed with. In return for providing children and keeping a good home, men would protect their wife, provide for her (food, clothing, shelter, and occasional gift), and respect her for her work.
    Those days are gone. Long gone. The only women you can find these days has had 10.42 miles of other men’s dicks in her vagina. (See comment below). She’s a slut. The state puts you entirely at her mercy. She doesn’t cook, she is a slob and not at all interested in taking care of a home. She doesn’t even want to raise her own kids. She is ungrateful and angry most of the time. Media encourages her to be a bitch, she discovers there are no repercussions for doing so, and glorifies in that unsavory behavior. You want to marry that? You want to be miserable in a wedding to marry that? If you do, you are living in a state of denial.

  29. Good one. But you forgot to mention, diamonds are for chumps too. They have virtually no resale value. But women can’t handle the truth of that either. On the other hand, an inexpensive wedding can be acceptable to paranoid lunatic narcissists as well.

    1. women who want huge diamond engagement rings are almost worse then those who spend more money on the wedding. Wedding can actually be memorable experience worth having…jewels of all kinds have little to no resale value.

    2. The diamond resale market is a good indicator of the actual value of diamonds. They have industrial uses, but that’s where it ends.

  31. Lozozlo Bozlo Dozlo
    Whenz my bitchz wantedz me to marryz her azz inz a bigz fatz weddingz, I aszked herz to lickz my perineumz forz 8 dayz b4. Thez problemz waz thatz she gotz a stomachz infectionz eatingz my dumpz. Shez neverz camez backz. I dumpedz herz by makingz herz to eatz my dumpz.

    1. Maybe you should get a date first before criticizing ALL married men. Oh and blow-up dolls don’t count!

  33. When will men fucking realize, the institution of marriage has been destroyed? Only way any of you fuckers should even consider marriage, is if her family or either she, has money and lots of it. That’s the only scenario in which the thinking man can neutralize all the perverse legal advantages she’d have over you. Other that, I consider western marriage to be a supreme trap. Asking me if I’d marry the average western woman or even subject myself to these laws by bringing a foreigner back here, is the equivalent of asking me, if I’d like to be neutered.

    2. Marriage sucks I agree. But the only thing why it makes sense is because you don’t directly pay for sex. You men have it easier in the Anglosphere. I’m in the Middle east, and with the influx of white women here, it’s possible to sleep with them, only if you pay. I’ve fucked more than 20 Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian chicks, who were not prostitutes, but who all demanded cash before the act. I paid because they were beautiful and not your usual whores who fuck daily for a living. Essentially here it is pay for pleasure. You men curse the sluts in the US/UK but what you don’t realize is that atleast you don’t have to fuck your wallet before you fuck the girl, they give it to you for free, even if they’re hot. Here the hot chicks put a price tag on their holes. The prime motivation for marriage from the beginning was sex on demand for men, and it will be the same forever, though in today’s times husbands have to continue to ‘game’ wives to keep the sex supply uninterrupted. Sex is why people get married, not because of love and all the other crap. Marriage is nothing but maintaining a whore for life, the good thing is she doesn’t put a cash receipt in front of you as soon as the act is finished. You men are still lucky in the West to have your sluts to give it to you for free. If women stopped fucking there, you’d be complaining even more.

      1. No woman ever “gives” it away for free, especially over the long term. A western slut will extract resources out of a man in the form of “dates.” For the money, I’ve found my own little niche market in young hot college girls on campuses. They don’t expect a lot, just a few drinks and maybe a meal here and there. I start to leave these whores alone around 25, their expectations go up, as they sense the wall is approaching. I’d rather be the guy they fuck around with in their prime (on the cheap), than the beta who they’ll marry and drain (money and soul). Marriage is very much about maintaining a whore for life for the purpose of children. Only if her family’s portfolio or hers is right, will I consider marrying a bitch. I want to make sure, if any shit breaks out, there’d be mutually assured destruction. Men need to understand our X and Y chromosomes makes us entirely different from them but also we understand them due to our Y chromosome, whereas they’ll never understand us, because they’re XX. We are the closest thing to God on this planet (some men more than others). If the Eve story were real, I’d want my fucking rib back, give me a refund. Woman’s nature is essentially that of a prostitute, her entire existence and shame is her realization of this fact. Whether you purchase a short-term prostitute (honest whores) or a long-term prostitute (girlfriends and wives), they’re essentially the same.

        2. “Only if her family’s portfolio or hers is right, will I consider marrying a bitch.”
          – Totally agree. Plus if she’s beautiful, good in bed and offers sex on demand.
          I don’t feel bad that I paid to fuck those girls. I fucked them like whores (in every way possible), because I was extracting everything I paid them in the way of sex. The times I saw those girls later walking in the shopping mall rolling their asses with their ‘boyfriends’ on their side, I chuckle to myself knowing that I dicked that ass of hers for money, what her boyfriend is dicking with a relationship (too much). And these girls were beautiful. The advantage her boyfriend has that he gets to fuck her ass for free through a commitment, his disadvantage s also that he fucks her ass but through a commitment.
          My advantage is I fucked her ass with money, disadvantage is that I don’t get to fuck her ass till I don’t pay her the money. Free sex is why men have always got married.

        3. Valuable experiences, but keep in mind that not everyone’s experiences mirror yours. The best players I know(and ones who’ve had, for the most part, very good experiences with women), wouldn’t get strung out for dates by women.
          Their script is usually some variation of taking them out for a Coffee date(which will set you back about 4 bucks on her), followed by good conversation and getting her to go back to his place.
          I know this is also an exception, but the Outlaw types will usually have the women come to them as well.

        5. Speaking of chromosomes, Y chromosomes are just a hell lot smaller. Men are just bound to go extinct sooner. Plus with the law of entropy always at work, it makes sense why women are dominating as time passes.

      2. I’ve fucked more than 20 Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian chicks, who were
        not prostitutes, but who all demanded cash before the act.
        I know that Arabs are stoopid but these girls were prostitutes. If a female demanded cash or some material thing to fuck then she’s a whore.
        How old are you ,Mohammed?

    3. you said “average western woman”. what criteria need be met for you to marry a “above average western woman”.
      the way you phrased it makes it sound as if you’d be open to marriage if the woman was good enough?

    5. The answer: Men will NEVER realize as a group the fraud that modern marriage has become. NEVER. Too many sexually desperate men. Sexual desperation leads to desperate measures; i.e. marriage.

  34. And another thing that shits me off if people who choose to have their wedding in some exotic, far flung destination. (like Phuket).
    Maybe I can understand it, if their bitch is from that locale, but if both are from the same hometown, and choose to have their wedding 500 miles away. What the fuck ?. Thats what the honeymoon is for.
    So you either have to pike out, and feel like a cunt,… or, pay a sizable amount of cash to get yourself there + accommodation + the inconvenience.
    Just more of the “look at me” culture.

    1. Don’t forget the douchebag techno dances now occuring in place of the traditional waltz.

      1. The “waltz” ??!!?? Dude, I have not heard the waltz at a wedding since maybe I was a kid in the late ’80s, and I think it was a movie. Its Bruno Mars or Usher Raymond. Ain’t nobody playin no fuckin waltz anymore!

        1. My cousin’s reception had a waltz, this was five years ago. Not everybody abandons tradition for the convenience of thug culture.

    2. Fucken hate this, they expect you to hall ass at your expense.
      Don’t forget elaborate bachelor parties, engagements parties, gift registries, having to collect the stupid wedding invitation from someone’s house, rental cars, hotels, morning after breakfasts, ass kissing wedding speeches, endless church ceremoniesl, waiting in line for food, standing around waiting for the bride and groom to finish their wedding pictures, annoying photographers and videographers, the wedding dance etc etc ….Gaaawwwd its fucking hell.
      I’ve even seen some wedding invitations where they shamelessly display their bank account details and ask for cash money.
      Weddings are hell, pure hell.

    3. Actually we got married in Scotland (Edinburgh). At the time airplane fares were very cheap (no idea why) and it cost us $250 round trip, a piece. Nobody came with us, and we got married by the Scottish equivalent of the justice of the peace in a ceremony with two witnesses (required). Great time. What I’m getting at is that I think you’re throwing a blanket statement over things. Our wedding cost less than most “in your own back yard” weddings.

  35. My gfs sister is having her wedding in las vegas and I calculated it wud cost me give or take 500 bucks for me to go there and thats not including paying for my gf, which I wouldnt anyway. I told my gf im not going. I dont understand the thought process of these imbecils that do this shit. And I have more than enough money to go but I refuse to spend my money. And my wedding will be maximum 20 to 30 ppl max, in my back yard. GOnna go for 2 grand tops. And even that is pushin it. An if my future wife wants a big wedding, well she can hit the road then.

    1. unless you are married to your girlfriend, you aren’t obligated to spend that much to go to her sister’s wedding. everyone would understand. 2 grand will accommodate quite a bit, great food, and celebrating with nearest and dearest is the most memorable !

    2. yeah, my stupid cousin threw his wedding in Hawaii (we’re from New York) and expected all his family to go. I was like, FUCK THAT, if I travel, its outside the USA and to get laid. Needless to say, we are no longer close.

    3. Hey big spender, why don’t you go the whole hog and rent out the Podunk firehouse or Moose lodge for your wedding :o)

  36. THE PERFECT GAME PLAN (this works best if you’re a white man):
    1. Game and fuck as many sluts/hoes as possible throughout the world
    2. Then game and seduce a good-looking rich Indian girl. Fuck her brains out. Propose marriage. Indian women are suckers for white culture.
    3. Get married to her, not in the US, but in India (this protects you in the case of a divorce). Make sure to demand a huge dowry before hand, or make up some story about a prospective business dream that requires money, or mention that how you envisage a cosy comfortable home for both of you, thus needing money to begin with. If she agrees to provide the dowry (depending upon your game and the sex you gave her), even if she’s ugly, marry her. From behind, she wouldn’t look much worse than a white mature cougar with cellulite on her ass. So, make sure you only have sex with her doggystyle in case she’s ugly, not forgetting to ask for the huge dowry.
    4. During the wedding, game her cousins/friends. After the wedding, make sure to meet them to close the deal to fuck them.
    5. Return back to the West. Neglect her. Continue to fuck around with your newfound financial freedom. Mercy fuck your Indian bride, only if she provides you even more cash from her family.

    1. I know this was intended as humor and it is appreciated. You are correct, I east indian women love White men and many of them are hot but you are not Indian you are not getting a dowry. Houston has a large Indian community and I have known a few east indian women (the northern indian women can be extremely attractive, almost on par with Persians), 2nd and 3rd generation that will whore around with white men but when time to get married they are off to India to marry some poor Indian dude that thinks he is buying a virgin. I am not saying your plan is without merit but I would target Persian women, better looking (and very sensuous, memorize a few lines of Rumi and you are in), don’t have hang ups about marrying white men (in fact, most consider themselves White), and they tend do be wealthy. Good luck.

      1. Indian men are the most unfortunate betas chumps in the world. They can’t fuck white women, and then they marry their own hideous women who are fucked by other races. Essentially he’s cuckolded as he’s bought by a dowry. Lmao

        1. That is true. I think that is why there is such a rape epidemic in India, sheer frustration. It explains why most of them hate white men. You have to have some degree of empathy for them.

        2. I thought it might Asians (not SE Asians for all the smartasses)? I mean the Asian man is already stigmatized by other races of women, as being a little short down there.

        3. It’s not just physical. I have never seen a race of men so inept around women. Think “Mississippi Masala”.

        4. They are some gorgeous women and tend to be charming and intelligent (they ones that come here are mostly upper caste) but I will take the Persians/Assyrians. I think they are among the most beautiful women. I know one, hot, intelligent, working a great sense of humor. She was the topic of conversation recently. I mentioned something about her being 32,33. One of the guys I was with, laughed, “she is 53”.

        5. The man who hates another man because his woman fucks that man, is the biggest chump. His bitch is the bitch who is the real one worthy of hate. Indian men should hate their own women instead. lmao

        6. Asian men’s SMV got massacred in the Western world by the small dick stereotype. But Indian men also share that stereotype (although not to the same extent Asian men do, but there was a fairly recent news article about Indian men not being able to use Western sized condoms made for black and white men). On top of that they have the most unattractive accent to white women, and usually smell like curry.

        7. Being an Indian or Asian guy is pretty tough in this globalized world. However I do know a few Indian guys who have done quite well, after taking the red pill, of course. Those that don’t take the red pill are doomed to a slow death in a hell of sexual purgatory. But I suppose that’s any man who refuses the red pill.

        8. This is a very sad, but true observation. They have a lot to overcome. Rape is huge in India due to all the sexual frustration. The savage, winner-take-all nature of human sexual dynamics is clearly on display in modern day India.

        9. Sadly, stereotypes exist for a reason. Also, Asian men tend to be short in stature and submissive in nature. Doesn’t help when trying to get laid.

  37. And for God’s sake why doth the Western whore still wear white wedding dresses? Don’t they know the white, was the original intent for virginity, youth and fertility? A father passed his daughter off to her husband. Modern woman should wear a black wedding dress covered with shit, semen, ripped money and blood to symbolize what she is (a bleeding cum dumpster whose moral equivalency is that of shit) and what she will bring to your life (darkness, misery and drained resources).

    1. Well thank you for that disturbing image. So cynical, maybe Houston, the South in general, really is that different (rhetorical). I am sure the following comment I going to elicit screams of “beta! you are gay! ect, ect, but if I didn’t have other priorities right now I can off hand think of five or six women that I would marry. The right woman adds value to your life.

        1. Well thanks for the support but I have a feeling you “hell yeah!” is going to be lonely.

        1. No but most men, most human beings, are not very perceptive, pretty much oblivious to what is really going on around them. I know that on this site what I am about to say is contrarian but women, most, are not good at masking who they really are. There are certain tells they that will drop quickly. Unless you are a psychopath you can’t hide your true self for long. Men may bitch about how devious women are, how they were “tricked” into marriage but it is their own poor judgment that is too, blame.

        2. no argument with statement. vast majority of shmucks WANT to believe in the delusion. hopefully they swallow the red pill before its too late.

        3. The wisest quote goes like this. “People show you who they are but we want them to be who WE want them to be.”
          delusional aggrandizing projection on females, and tons of excuses made by males to rationalize their decisions enforced by a brainwashing media. I do this to a certain extent, but i’m aware/conscious of it. You need some healthy sense of detachment from reality it is key in a sane mind, but there is a difference sporting women and knowing its a silly chess game, and actually believing them and the OUTRAGEOUS blue pill malarkey.

        4. You’ve got no idea how much of that I’ve seen….and it all comes from being sexually desperate instead of sexually confident.
          When you avoid putting a girl up on a pedestal or becoming codependent with her you see these things. If you aren’t able to maintain an emotional distance, then you can’t see the forest for the trees.
          That is why I recommend that even the most traditional, marriage minded man out there avoid hollywood-style dating. Hang out with lots of women and don’t become seriously involved with any of them them until she proves through her ACTIONS that she is someone you can trust to take care of your house and raise your kids.

        5. True statement. These poor fools WANT to believe in this fantasy, true or not. There is little money to be made telling the truth. There are fortunes to be made selling fantasy. Hence, the multi-billion dollar marriage/divorce industrial complex.

    3. Google slut wedding to find this
      http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Five-Sluttiest-Wedding-Dresses
      search for Ivana Greencardawitch and go to that in the pic to see this
      http://englishrussia.com/2006/08/30/what-a-strange-wedding-dress/
      Search more and you find this
      http://englishrussia.com/2009/08/11/goth-wedding-in-moscow/
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-458832/Invasion-Russian-gold-diggers.html
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2288007/Is-outrageous-wedding-dress-Bride-TLCs-Gypsy-Sisters-walks-aisle-leopard-print-crystal-neon-pink-gown.html
      Broads everywhere

      1. Russian women are Broads. Only an American will marry them. Because American men are pussy whipped by the broads in America itself. Ivana Greencardawitch’s husband is a faggot. Italian and Spanish men use Russian women as sperm toilets leaving American assholes to marry them.

    4. Someone here once wrote, “the road to HELL is paved with good intentions”(from the bible). So a wedding, = some poor beta man who doesn’t have a CLUE what he is getting himself into. All women are sweet with perfect behavior for a man with money, It’s when they realize they don’t need you anymore because technically you’re worth only half now, which they get if they leave you. Rich man attracts female , Female is now entitled to man’s money, female no longer needs man because she has his money, and he no longer looks alpha in her eyes, she owns his ass! A female is a parasite who will beta you and cuckold you, this reality is one of the rights of passage in life. Accept your fate.

      1. True in most cases.
        The only way to subvert that is if you are worth more than the money……and how many men these days are on such a high level that they are worth more than the money?
        It’s pretty sick that society has made things this way but it is what it is unless we stand up and change it.

        1. You can’t change “it”. I believe society has evolved the way it wanted to. On a micro, not “macro” scale, Society is composed of individuals,and each individual is doing exactly what they want based on the pain/pleasure principle with their decisions. This is nothing more than a cycle. If you want to get ahead in life, you don’t have time, nor do you even have a moral duty to clean up the mess of others, that is outrageous. Especially when… What if it turns out there is a very dark side to humanity? are people too emasculated/naive to consider the reality of the destructive impulse of humans. Have we been fed a load of lies telling us we live in a harmonious world where everyone wants utopia and peace? If this is the case why so much horror in the world? If there is somehow a true human instinct for peace, why do people enjoy unleashing hell on each other? The real sociological evidence suggests something dark. We can’t even trust our own women, who have been unleashed and exposed. Jesus Christ. I know why the bible said heaven is above, that’s because the earth is the “pitt” below, Hell itself. (Not religious).
          Freud explained it as the “thanatos” instinct of people and their ruthlessness that comes naturally. So you’d be “standing against” something futile and limitless. History is full of war, betrayal, and all sorts of hell, You really think there is a happy utopian brian in 2014? I don’t buy it. No one can be trusted. It is “honor amongst thieves” at best.

        2. Were you never in battle or the military then? If you think no one can be trusted, you’ve never fought alongside of men who put their lives on the line for you, and you them. There are associations of men out here in the real world too, where you form lifelong bonds of trust and honor and your brothers will literally do anything in the world for you, spare nothing.
          Or did you mean simply that no woman can be trusted? Because then, yeah, I’d agree to an extent.

        3. “Trust, but verify”
          @ Ghost: I can guess which “associations of men” you’re referring to.

      2. A woman doesn’t beta you. You beta you. Own the status of your life and don’t cast blame on others because you allowed them to influence you to become something you don’t want to be.
        That is all.

    5. HAHA! White wedding dress. That is pushing it. “Honey, are you sure you should be wearing that dress? I’ve seen your Facebook page from college…”

    6. Oh, marriage isn’t that bad. Wait a minute. Yes it is. I forgot…we live in America.

  39. Im in the nursing field and im surrounded by dykes 24/7. And it disgusts me to hear about their wedding plans. Its like theyre more excited being a wedding planner an bragging to ppl about how stressful their life is bc they have to come up with unique ways to spend their husbands money on a stupid wedding. GOd, yea it must be so stressful making it soo fancy and unique.
    I honestly wanna smash their fucking heads in. Working as a male nurse has rly made me hate western whores even more. And im gonna say it for the record, next time some nurse tells u nursing is the hardest job blah blah blah. Bullshit, its the easiest job. I sit on ass for a good 90 percent of my shift playing with my phone and getting paid 30 an hour and I just started. Its a fucking joke. But no woman will admit its easy bc they want u to feel sorry for them. Fucking lying cunts.
    And it sickens me how many of them think theyre smarter than doctors and make fun of doctors. U entitled little cunt what fucking makes u think u know more than a surgeon u narcissistic whore. I love the job, but working with them is dreadful. But when I work with other male nurses its nice as shit.

    1. lmao a male nurse? I broke my nose in a fight once, and i needed surgery to put it back in place, and they had me under laughing gas before they knocked me out. the guy asked what i wanted to become, i think i said paramedic (i’m now an engineer), and he asked why not a male nurse. I was under laughing gas so i burst out laughing hysterically. thats the last thing i remember before going under.

      1. Hahahaaha. This is the funniest shit I’ve read in some time. Thank you, comrade. hahahahaah

  40. Seems like lots of guys here are always criticizing women for taking away their money when marriages end up in divorce. What a paradox! Men here consider marriage because a woman can bring in money. Doesn’t sound manly to me at all! Bunch of male gold diggers. Sounds like u wanna get ur dick cut off being slave to woman’s family. Lovelier than a beta.

  41. Feminist women who talk about cutting men’s dicks should all be put in Africa, to get a taste of female circumcision and genital mutilation – practiced by women on women. It’s strange that the faggotry of feminist western society allows them to talk crap about men’s genitals, when men themselves gave these ungrateful cum dumpster parasitical bitches, feminist laws.

    1. Most girls could use a bit of trimming to look better. I would do it as a surgeon on Maria myself but she has a perfect pussy. I told her I could enter her in the perfect pussy contest lol OK just kidding but she is perfect. You know, it always amazes me that some girls seem to have everything, looks, brains, personality etc while others are a complete defective mess in all areas. I guess it’s sort of like the difference between blanket blog boys and we Alphas.

  42. Any man STUPID ENOUGH to get married to an American woman in the year 2014, DESERVES TO SUFFER AND HAVE HIS LIFE DESTROYED.
    You can’t fix stupid. Let the betas destroy their lives, while we ALPHAS conquer the world!

    2. Amen to that. Hell, I’m living overseas and I have my doubts about marrying the foreign chicks here.

    3. I tend to agree. With all the information available to men now, should we really feel sorry for the loser men who do this to themselves? I think not.

  44. Here is a link to the story about the Montana bride who was married for eight days before she pushed her new husband off a cliff in Glacier National Park. She recently got 30 years for the crime (which she is now appealing). This story got a lot of coverage in Montucky. It was reported that she wanted a wedding but did not want to be married.
    http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/bride-goes-to-trial-in-glacier-park-newlywed-death/article_ad17f626-4009-5b9b-94ab-5a60d4569805.html

    1. This is not a website for tales of horror and gore! Take that story back to Fangora.com where it belongs.

  45. I’ve been to at least 30 weddings over the past 2.5 years and I FUCKING hate them now.
    God they are so painful, all the crap including:
    – travelling long distance to get there
    – rental cars
    – hotels
    – gift registries
    – wedding cards
    – bachelor parties
    – engagements parties
    – endless church ceremonies
    – annoying brides maid speeches and endless speeches from self centred people
    – endless ass kissing of the bride and how beautiful she is and what a dick the groom is
    – flowers
    – hair dressers
    – wedding invitations and having to go and collect them or have them hand delivered
    – photo booths with stupid dress up costumes
    – waiting around some garden drinking orange juice waiting for the bride and groom to finish taking wedding photos
    – waiting in line for food
    – bar tabs that run out
    – dance lessons and wedding dances
    – annoying photographers and videographers with big bright lights
    – the wedding dress and all the clown paint on the bride
    – the garter and having to stand up there with the rest of the manginas clambering for it
    – the bouquet and all the sluts clambering for it
    – the breakfast the next day
    – cheesy MC jokes
    – thank you list of people overseas
    – every single person at the wedding clambering to get a wiff of the brides used up pussy
    GAAWWWWD! What a dog show! I couldn’t think of a bigger waste of time and money. Don’t get married, just don’t.

    1. You kiddin me? That free bar is worth it’s weight in gold plus the horny women who are filled with jealous rage! Weddings are the best, provided they aren’t your own.

      1. I agree that the biggest joy is to sit and say , “It’s not me, it’s not me, thank god it’s not me.” However, I still get depressed watching a fellow man walk the plank.

    2. You’re dealing with the marriage/divorce industrial-complex my friend. Don’t fight it. Keep your head down and go with it.

  46. Friend of mine’s fiance insisted on a big wedding. After months of nightmares he eventually dumped her. He didn’t fancy spending the next 10 years paying it off.
    A word on houses. Its not much of an investment these days, particularly if you get married. Chances are, it will be taken off you. Avoid immovable illiquid assets that can be seized and handed to your ex-wife. Better to save your money in portable assets such as gold coins. You can store hundreds of thousands in a small box and be gone in the wind if everything goes south. Plus it will be impossible for anyone to know what your net worth is.

    1. I’m a silver man myself, but otherwise agree 100%. Silver because I can buy it easily and it fits in the budget, but it’s still a decent investment and portable.

        1. Not hard to guess really. Just takes a bit of common sense to realize that hard metal is the only real currency. Well, that and a bit o’ copper jacketed lead and brass.

        2. Check out Martin Armstrong’s posts on the topic…..that’s actually not true. “Currency”(which in Roman mean the “current” flowing down from the prosperity god’s temple) is nothing more than whatever people accept as a store of value.
          There’s numerous places where “hard metal” wasn’t regarded as a valid currency. For example after Japans economic collapse in the 12th century the standard unit of currency was a bag of rice. After the Roman collapse, no new silver coins were minted for a period of hundreds of years.
          The real value of precious metals is that they(if purchased correctly) allow you to hedge money against government action.

        3. Let me put it another way. In the U.S. my dollar is good for me right now, but the economy collapses and guess what, it’s paper used to start the fire in the house with no electricity. Meanwhile the silver and gold I have in my safe still retains value across the world and in every modern culture, and I bet I can trade it quite easily for Rubles, EU notes or Yen from functioning economies (in that context). That value fluctuates, but it’s always money. I am aware that societies determine currency, but the days of the ten pound stone “dime” are pretty much gone.
          I’m not one of the “Beck gold hoarders!” by the way, been collecting silver coins and ingots since 1987 or so.

    2. Good job by your friend — it’s not easy to decide on or execute that about-face, but the right decision rarely is.
      I agree with your point about housing, since buying a house is a very “Blue Pill” investment in today’s world, at least in the majority of cases. However, the symbolism of a woman putting aside her desire for celebration in order to make what she perceives to be a shared investment in your future is something that should be recognized and valued. You can re-educate her on the specific economics of it later and use the money for something else, but it’s the future-oriented mentality that counts.

    3. You also want to keep your liquid assets (as well as any records associated with them) stored OUTSIDE of your residence where you can access them quickly, and MAKE SURE your ‘wife’ doesn’t know about them (what she doesn’t know about, she can’t legally steal).

  47. How about the scam of wedding rings? One months salary? What utter bullshit. Diamond prices are artificially set by an African cartel lead by Debeers company.
    Imagine working for one entire month of your life to pay for a little rock.

    1. I’ve heard 2 month’s salary, now. No thanks.
      Also I have a friend who financed his fiance’s ring at about $10,000. BAD IDEA

      1. The thing they never mention is, two month’s salary from *where*? I say, give her a ring from two month’s salary working part time at the drive through window at McDonalds and call it a day.
        “That’s right honey, that’s a full quarter carat of genuine cubic zirconium right there! Come kiss daddy, baby. Hail to the king.”

  48. Marriage used to be an important ceremony because as it had two crucial purposes:
    1. The ritual of the father of the bride passing the responsibility of guardianship to the new father, the husband. The word husband derives from the word ‘hus’ which is ‘house’. So the husband is the head of the house. He is the guardian of of everyone else in the house, including his wife (meaning woman).
    2. It is a public ceremony where all the relatives and friends (society in general) are present and witness the ritual. The purpose of this is to put a social pressure on the woman and help her commit to monogamous life. It does work because as we know women are very much prone to external influences and are far more affected the the opinions of others than men.
    So the whole idea of the marriage is designed for the woman. Which maybe why they love it so much. The problem nowadays is that the emphasis is on the appearance of the ceremony, rather than the ceremony itself.

    1. Don’t forget the point of the honeymoon, it was supposed to last 30 days which was enough time for her to ovulate whereby the husband isolates her, waits for her to ovulate then inseminates her thereby ensuring his paternity of the future child.

      2. That was not the reason. In cases where the parents didn’t want them to marry the guy would pretend to “kidnap” her and stay away for awhile. They then come back and knowing that their daughter has been fucked and may be pregnant they allow her to marry the guy.

  49. “n=0”. “n=0″, n=0”!!!!!
    Historically, If a girl was a VIRGIN she wore BLUE.
    When Kate Middelton married Prince William, conservative pundits were questioning the dress colour since the term is “living in sin” given the fact she was William beforehand. Not to overdramatic about the subject but think about those “wedding vows”, and being photographed with a girl who is assuming “purity” or “would-be purity” even a beta should think at least about that.
    “white” was introduced by Queen Victoria in 1840 and made ‘fashionable’ allowing women to cheat thereafter; supported by this Old Wives tale:
    “Married in White, you have chosen right
    Married in Grey, you will go far away,
    Married in Black, you will wish yourself back,
    Married in Red, you will wish yourself dead,
    Married in Green, ashamed to be seen,
    Married in Blue, you will always be true,
    Married in Pearl, you will live in a whirl,
    Married in Yellow, ashamed of your fellow,
    Married in Brown, you will live in the town,
    Married in Pink, your spirit will sink.”
    Again the Church needs to stop issuing marriages because its the State who acts as the Husband. This would control the outflow better, also the church membership needs to be attending the event to stop expensive weddings being populated by small group and allow “community” affairs to be aware.

  50. The last big wedding I was dragged to, the marriage lasted 4 years, she claimed domestic abuse during the divorce and came up with a story how he used her father’s money to support his own business.

  51. Excellent points.
    I’d like to point out a few, too:
    1) Engagement ring “recommendations” of two month’s salary in cost creates the wrong idea about marriage and puts honest, decent men who can’t afford some extravagant ring to shame. Also, 2 month’s salary in costs is ridiculous. A manufactured “standard.”
    2) You know what they say: A wedding isn’t for the couple, it’s for the bride.
    3) A sincere woman with your/her best interests in mind won’t want some incredibly expensive wedding and will be happy with a modest ring and modest ceremony.
    I think it says a lot when so much time effort and money is spent on the ceremony and not the marriage itself.
    You won’t find this problem with more humble women from overseas in modest countries. They’d LOVE to have a man who’s willing to get them a decent engagement ring and have a modest wedding day.

    2. I spent ~1 month on mine at the time (would be 3 days at what I currently make). We spent about 7.5k total including ~4k on the rings & a honeymoon to Sandals. Sandals was my favorite part of the whole thing. We go back at least once a year. The most relaxing time of my life. My now wife of course wanted the big wedding but I, nor her parents, nor mine were going to pay for it. She accepted it pretty well.

  52. The ironic part in all this is, it’s the feminists who hate love and romance, just like Islam does.
    It’s Islam that represents the kind of patriarchy feminists relentlessly attack. It’s patriarchy as nightmare. And the feminists of the west are making excuses for it. Or outright denying it. It’s only in the last few years, for instance, I’ve been made aware of how Islamic countries violently oppress any celebration of St. Valentines day. No romance allowed in Islam, or feminism. Islam is the original stone age Nazism. And the feminists are in bed with them.
    On the other hand, rejecting love and marriage is playing into the left’s totalitarian hands. So what to do? Wish I knew.
    I’m suspicious of the advice about foreign women. If they come to America, it’s only a matter of time before the lefty culture contaminates them, right? I don’t understand how women from any culture can not grasp, that when they vote for higher taxes, even if it’s only on the rich, it will affect their paychecks too, and their boyfriend’s, or husband’s, paychecks as well. How do you explain common sense to people, let alone a country, that seems to have none? Wish I knew that too.

    1. Fuck Valentines Day. I only use to pick up sluts to fuck about. There is nothing holy about love anymore. I have told many women that I loved them so that I could fuck them. especially in Europe. Women are suckers for the word love, so love is the word which makes them pull down their panties and bend over to await my dick in their ass.
      If you really wanna beat feminism, you need Islamic Nazism. Machiavelli famously said, “It’s better to be feared than loved”. He knew very well what he was talking about. Islam has managed to control its women using this fear, whereas Christianinty has made sluts and whores out of its women using love and St. Fucking Valentines Pimp Day. As long as you got slut promoting celebrations of Carnaval and St. Valentines Day in Churchianity, Christian women will continue to act as broads. You want control over sluts in Christianity? Ban those fucking celebrations. And if you want to promote ‘love’, then be prepared to promote sluthood in the name of love. In today’s world love is just a practical excuse for a woman to fuck around, no woman wants to be called a slut for being a slut. So I indulge all my bitches by saying thanks for loving me after I fuck them, even though I know that she fucked with me because she’s simply a slutty bitch. Christianity is the biggest slut and cunt producing hypocrisy in the modern world.

      1. I have no qualms with religion and in fact admire the Orthodox Church, but you shouldn’t need it as a crutch to control your woman. Force of personality and dominance do not require the prophet Mohammed to be hovering over your left shoulder.

        1. The Orthodox Church is a fucking joke which only produces Conservative wifey whores, like in the case of Russian and East European whores. Russian women are conservative whores, thank you Orthodox Christianity. Islam seems better that their men can fuck Christian sluts with freedom while putting a ring on their virgins which they fiercely protect from other faiths. You try to save a Christian woman, and she’d turn onto you, demean you by slutting it out of her own free will. in her pursuit for love. Thank you St.Fucking Valentine’s Pimp Day for that. She wants to indulge herself sexually before 40 days of unnatural abstinence. Thank you Carnaval for that. She wants to fuck in the ass, drink gallons of sperm from different men and then repent. Thank you the confession box of the Church. Fuck this is what Christian men have faced, and will continue to face. The Church is a joke. Atleast Islamic Nazis have it better than Christian men, they get to fuck Christian sluts for free.

        2. And all I hear is “blah blah blah I need Mohammed to keep my women in line blah blah blah”. I don’t disagree about the holidays being a joke, but that doesn’t mean I need to turn and dedicate myself to a joke of a religion whose pedophile prophet exhibited more signs of mental dysfunction than Jeffrey Dahmer. Islam has it mostly right about women, but little to nothing else. Thanks, but no thanks.
          Later, gator.

        3. Putin is a pimp. Russian men follow pimp game to keep their women in line. American men are pussies when it comes to keeping a Russian broad under control, because most of the time they are floored by her ‘femininity’, exquisite fucking skills, blah blah blah. I’ve seen enough American men been henpecked by their Russian broads of wives, because they have never seen such ‘hot feminine women
          ever. You’ll become a doormat to a Russian broad faster than you’d become to an American broad. The Russian orthodox church has no hand in making Russian women docile, it’s actually the pimp game of Russian men (who cheat and physically use violence) on Russian women to make them move their whore asses according to their will. You can enjoy your delusion.

        4. You do know that he’s a hard core devout Eastern Orthodox Christian, who has gone to great lengths to re-introduce highly religious life to Russia, right?
          In any event, I know that I for one don’t need the pedophile Prophet guiding my woman, since I do well enough on my own in that capacity. If you need the assistance, that’s your thing man.

        5. “hard core devout Eastern Orthodox Christian..”
          Lmao!
          Which hard core devout Eastern Orthodox Christian would ‘cheat’ on his wife with mistress of a gymnast who’s as old as his daughters? Possibly his priests are ever ready to forgive his adultery, everytime he assfucks his mistress, and then trots up to the confession box for ‘repentance’. Putin is a phony tool, who has all the pretentions of a medieval Pope, with the lechery of a Pimp.

        6. Ah, ok guy, sure.
          You are aware of the original Christian….well, nevermind. Go worship the pedophile poser if you wish, that’s your choice and God bless your liberty to do so.
          Slainte

        8. I think we’re talking around each other here. I’ll rephrase to help clarify.
          Modern Christianity, I agree, is a wuss religion by and large (and with some exceptions, the Amish tolerate no crap from their women and do so on religious grounds, they are not “pimps”). Adhering to traditionally understood Christianity however, the Christianity around prior to the 1960’s (or pre-Vatican II if you like) had the same internal controls on women as Islam (more or less the same) hence why women were generally chaste before marriage, loyal, dutiful and decent, they had that “old timey” religion working on them. With that in mind, it’s not the actual Christian religion that’s wrong here as you suggest, it’s the manginas who are freely misinterpreting *everything* about Christ’s message, even outside of the topic of women.
          Make more sense?

        9. “Which hard core devout Eastern Orthodox Christian would ‘cheat’ on his
          wife with mistress of a gymnast who’s as old as his daughters?”
          Putin is an alpha male with serious ‘issues’ (c’mon riding around bareback on a horse?) with a lot of money and power.
          Seriously, power corrupts and as Kissinger said, it’s a great aphrodisiac. Him and the French leader Hollande could form their own posse.
          Calling Putin ‘hard core devout .. Christian’ is indeed LMAO funny. Re-introducing Christianity in Russia is probably a good thing for Russia’s culture, but Putin has political and ulterior motives for supporting Russian traditions and not faith-based one.

        10. Christianity has been more favorable to women than other religions, eg, oneman-onewoman marriage vs polygamy in Islam, and Sharia Law in Islam is literally 7th century, western christian-based law evolved well beyond that.
          This OTOH is true “it’s not the actual Christian religion that’s wrong here as you suggest,it’s the manginas who are freely misinterpreting *everything* about Christ’s message, even outside of the topic of women.”
          One forgets how the ‘woman submit to her husband’ line the New Testament is now ‘explained’ away and/or used to attack Christianity as ‘anti-woman’ which it isn’t.

    2. I agree but, how is Islam, National Socialist? Islam has nothing to do with Socialism.

    3. Once you realize that modern radical feminism is certifiably insane and based on lies at war with biology and common sense, it ALL makes sense.
      Of course radical feminists would stick up for Islam. They stick for a lot of stuff that in the end is just horrible for women.

  53. Marriage is useless.
    So you wanna marry:
    An Anglosphere woman who’s slutted her life out in the name of feminism
    A French. Italian. German or Spanish woman who’s slutted her life out in the pursuit of love
    A Sovietsphere woman who’s slutted her life out in the search for a husband
    Marriage is useless. I only believe in pump and dump in the modern century. If you wanna kids, some day, head up to the surrogacy centre, select the woman out of the catalog who’s renting her womb, masturbate, pay and return 9 months later to take your baby and leave. MARRIAGE AND WIVES ARE FOR LOSERS.

    1. Haha, and you’ll go home with a crying baby that needs a breast to latch on. I want to see you at 2am sitting on the edge of the bed scratching your head while the baby cries its lungs out!
      But maybe you can breastfeed the baby?! Why not! Men can also produce milk from their nipples … in emergency. LOL

      2. I’ll hire a nanny to breastfeed it. Everything can be bought for in the modern world, even a woman’s fucking womb to gestate a child.
        And if things don’t work out, you’re always there. You can suckle the child with your manboobz.

        1. Good luck with that, maybe the nanny can offer you extra service while she’s there. LOL

        2. Wait, you’re the same cunt who mentioned in another comments section that he married an ex-whore correct?

  54. Amen to that. If you propose to a woman, say you’ll sign the papers, get her a wedding ring only, not an engagement ring and no, no diamonds and then proceed to have a drunken party in some inexpensive venue with 50/50 your mates and hers, small numbers and screened, of course. A decent woman who wants to be a wife will say yes anyway. A woman who wants to be a bride or a girlfriend will kick up a fuss. If she wants to be a girlfriend, stick at it. If she wants to be a bride, but on her terms, then say goodbye and don’t look back, lest she ultimately nags you into a middle-ground-agreement, which is almost as much of a death sentence as an average wedding. Potentially more so because she’s nagged you out of your own decision.

  55. All of this goes without saying, but I’m glad it was said. Good article. Best line is:
    “An expensive, pointless wedding is the ultimate display of low future-time orientation, a bad trait for someone to whom you’re pledging half your future earnings in a legally binding contract.”
    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Pay attention, lads. This is truthful stuff.

  56. As an interesting aside, I once read a transcript from an old guy who used to be tight w/ the Oppenheimer’s — the clan that used to run De Beers, which is a conglomerate of companies that control the diamond industry. Well, this old guy wasn’t too happy w/ the state of affairs and kind of “blew his whistle” on said industry. He claimed that diamonds are very common and mined to an extent the industry will never acknowledge — scarcity is complete bullshit. As such, he estimated that the true market value for a perfect 1 carat diamond was no more than $70 USD (I read that about 15 years ago). He claimed to see barrels and barrels filled w/ such diamonds. And yet, I doubt an average dude could buy such a diamond for much under $30,000 USD in NYC these days.
    In a related vein, he also made similar claims about crude oil, in that it WASN’T made from biotic sources (crushed / compressed dinosaurs and plant material), rather it is abiotic and constantly made deep within the Earth (Russian geologists knew this by the ’60s and eventually developed drilling tech than can tap into it at 40,000 feet down). Apparently, crude oil is synthesized w/in the belly of the Earth w/ the help of certain bacteria. As such, unlimited supply and any notion of peak oil is complete BS.

    1. This is one of those anecdotes that poor pyjama boys who can’t get a girl like to repeat. “You see! I told you diamonds are worth nothing” lol Then get her a ruby or emerald you loser.You have no idea what you’re talking about. A diamond, or anything else, is worth whatever someone will pay for it.There are industrial diamonds which have a certain value and then gem quality diamonds. And $30k will get you a very high quality gem quality diamond of 3-4 carets. Those diamond chips that you proles and trailer park types buy at Walmarts are worth nothing which is why they sell for $300.
      The oil nonsense I heard 40 years ago and for all I know may be true. However. wherever it comes from it still takes a lot of effort and expense to get it out and transport it. Ever see that film There Will Be Blood? I believe that it’s partially based on the book OIL by Upton Sinclair. If you can’t transport the oil to market it’s worth nothing. In the film he built his own pipeline because the Rockefellers controlled the railway and he wouldn’t be able to make money on his oil due to the high transport fees.It also depends on the type of oil which is why light sweet crude sells for a higher price than Ural oil which requires more refining.
      Gold is the same. It takes a lot of work to get it out and separate it from the ore and in fact 1/2 the gold ever mined was in the last 100 years when we had power machinery. Gold and platinum are really worth nothing and before their use in technology today were only used for jewellery and things like King Tut’s coffin etc. It’s only that people believed they were valuable that made them valuable. They probably got that idea because the gods(aliens) wanted the stuff, likely for their own technology and their own planet was depleted. These metals may not be common in the universe for all we know and you can’t make them from base metals.
      As for oil, suppose there is a tremendous amount under the earth, you still can’t drill a 1k miles down to get it and it would be much simpler to just use nuclear power for energy.
      And btw, if you manage to trick (game) some 2 into marrying you, get her that $200 ring at Walmarts.

      1. Get your faggy ass off this website. Either you’re a woman, faggot or super-beta. No real man would use the name of the ultimate super beta (Mr. Big) from the show “Sex in the City.” Yo mods ban this whatever the fuck it is!

  58. The golden rule in the modern world –
    Fuck as many women as possible when they’re young. Use everything you can – lies, money, influence, game, etc. Keep fucking and then replace with younger versions.
    Women are sperm toilets. Don’t fucking care. As soon as you’re bored of one, trash her out. If you’ll think with your dick and brain, and never with your ‘heart’, when it comes to women, you will always be happy. Fuck weddings.

    1. Won’t you end up horribly lonely? Think about when you reach your seventies, women have lost interest in you and you’ve lost interest in sex. Who’s going to be around you? No children, no partner, and you’ve never really talked to women in a way that wasn’t trying to get them into bed.

      1. You really think with a 55%+ divorce rate the chick you marry at 25 will be with you at 70?

        1. Truth. Eventually you will be alone again. Most of them get you in your earning prime when they sense you are fulfilled and happiest which attracts them to your position of hard-won strength, than prepare to fleece your ass once you’ve got a big bank account which they get half of. Parasites come around when your self esteem is nice and high and you’re thirsty, and if you aren’t red pill they marry you and sink your ship 5-15 years down the road.

        2. You do know that not all women do that, right? I mean you yourself must know at least one woman who has a happy and loving marriage.

        3. I’m not saying that. What I mean is that he’s not going to have the skills in later life to attract a partner who provides things other than sex. If you’ve spent 40 years pulling your best moves to get a woman into bed, nothing more, then you’re not easily going to attract someone who wants a more mature and emotional relationship.

        4. Sadly my friend, most women ARE like that. Sure not all, but most. Are you gonna roll the dice on that one?

        5. It’s not a matter of rolling the dice. Surely we have some sort of way to discern whether a woman is going to use you or not. You’re also assuming that women go into marriage cynically, planning on divorcing to get a large payout, and I don’t see how that could possibly happen very often.

        6. Either you’re a woman (which I presume from your language), or you’re a married Beta faggot. Troll elsewhere.

        8. You are delusional. The only skills you need with 95% of women are money, game, and looks. The “other skills” are mostly beta shit. And I say this as someone who has been married for 8 years.

        9. Well, my parents were married for almost 40 years, till my father died, and mom took care of him in his old age. And she was faithful to him while he was infamously not. And he spent the money she earned (on gambling), not the other way around. I learned better though, I will never love, trust or put a man before myself. I won’t be stupid and miserable like my mother was. Oh, I am sure that men have valuable things to offer me as a woman, but love, respect, and true companionship are not among them, and I refuse to be in a one-sided relationship. I was raised in a conservative Christian home, so I’ll wait for the ring before I take what a man has to offer (sex and money), and I’ll be faithful afterwards. But as far as I’m concerned, marriage is little more than religiously-sanctioned one-client prostitution. So be aware, men, that just because she’s a good girl virgin unicorn (I’ve never even kissed a man before), doesn’t mean she’s going to be all sweetness and light. A man doesn’t always have to touch a girl to turn her cold and bitter.

      2. Being alone when you’re old isn’t so bad. I know quite a few old married guys who would kill just to be alone from their wife for just 5 minutes…

      3. You think a hoe will go with you to your grave?
        Make money, save yourself from poverty in old age. Hugh hefner, Larry Ellison. Two senior men still pulling poon at their age. Money talks because all women are bitches and hoes. Cut this emotional crap.The greatest myths society brainwashes men are the myths of bitches being behind a successful man, and the myth of the lonely old bachelor. Married men wished they would die earlier, because they fell for the bait of marriage because of the allure of their bitches’s bodies. Why do you need to bring and keep a used overfucked cow, when you can get free milk from younger cows for free? And for your old age, rent not one but many bitches to keep you warm. Aka David, or men in Thailand.

        1. So you don’t want to ever love a woman? They’re just to be used and thrown away? I don’t understand that, especially not long term.

        2. ‘Love’ a woman? You gotta be kidding me!!! Who would love a bitch??? Who would ‘love’ a creature whose only job is to produce babies and provide sex, without which it is actually a practically useless animal??? The only time a man really ‘loves’ a woman is when she’s taking his cock in her mouth, ass or cunt. That’s why ‘love’ dies after a period of time in every ‘relationship’ because the sex gets boring. The word ‘love’ is the biggest trap right from Eve, that put men into misery; Adam ate the apple because he ‘loved’ Eve, and he didn’t want to refuse her when she asked him to eat from the tree. FUCK LOVE! AND FUCK THE BITCH OF A WOMAN! FUCK WOMEN, BLOODY CUNTS BITCHES WHORES OF PARASITICAL SUFFERING! Only sentimental faggots of men will believe in ‘love’. And I only tell a woman I ‘love’ her either when I am seducing her to dump her later, or when I am fucking her deep up her ass. Once I have shot my load, I spit on her and kick her ass out . ‘Love’ does not exist; the word was invented by women to entrap men so as to leech off men’s resources. On the contrary, women need ‘love’ from men. Stop trolling here. Men don’t need ‘love’; women do.

        4. The only good thing about marriage nowadays is that married men no longer fear death.

        5. You have it BACKWARDS — as far as women nowadays are concerned, YOU (as a married man) are to be used and thrown away, i.e., ‘frivorced’ and impoverished so that your ex can “live it up” in your house on alimony and “child” support. Educate yourself by spending a day or two in any “Family Court” or talk with a divorce lawyer.

        6. I’m sorry you have had bad experiences with women but it shouldn’t make you bitter towards the whole lot of them.

        7. Something really terrible must have happen to you in the past that made you forge this kind of mindset.

  59. Another reason to cancel the wedding… if your girlfriend wont take your last name, wants to hyphenate, or worse, wants you to hyphenate!

  60. What a fantastic way of writing an observing the stupidity of the wedding, loved it. Reading this blog gives me a very weird insight in American society.

  61. Why do people always insist on big weddings? It’s common for families to end up arguing and fighting at weddings, for some weird reason that is what the english do at these big occasions. It seems kind of pointless to start your life with someone in debt. When there is no money, that’s when the arguments start.
    Nothing wrong with getting married, but seriously there has to be a line somewhere, I’d rather spend £28,000 on the down payment for a house and have a small intimate wedding with just the closest friends and family involved, failing that, eloping up to Gretna Green in Scotland.

  63. Fuck all you who shame Indian men. Indian men are desired by your so-called beauties from Russia and Ukraine, because they think Indian men are responsible hardworking men, husband material type with whom they can raise a family. A lot of them fuck for free with Indian guys, fall in love with us and marry us, while making you pay to fuck them. They won’t respect your American shit because Russians think Americans and Brits are irresponsible donkeys. No wonder Putin makes Obama suck his cock on the world’s political stage today relentlessly. India and Russia have ties from the beginning of the Cold War, and Russian women love Indian guys. Even Russian female writers are proposing for Russian women to marry Indian men. You say we have small dicks but Russian girls love to suck our dicks and offer us their pink assholes and vaginas to fuck for pleasure. The most beautiful Russian girls sleep with so many Indian guys when on vacation to India. You white men can only criticize us out of envy. Even British girls fuck with Indian guys and then fall in the laps of you white losers. India has not only overwhelmed British women but also curry is the national dish of the UK. The white woman loves colored cocks, and cuckolds you with aplomb. And white men today are nothing but a case of sour grapes who can only complain at Indian, Black, Asian or Arab men fucking their slutty women or beautiful women elsewhere because no one wants white men except Nigras and hypergamous Asian bitches.

      1. Fuck you. FUCK RUSSIAN WOMEN! FUCK WOMEN! Fuck Indian faggots like you who pedestalize Russian whores. I’ve had threesomes in which I made one Russian girl lick the shit off my dick after I pulled out of the other Russian bitch’s ass. And your’re proud of marrying a Russian woman, who is nothing but a ‘sophisticated’ sperm toilet for the world? Wearing the garb of a housewife does not make a whore a housewife. And that’s what Russian bitches are. You can be happy to wear the horns of cuckoldry when your Russian wife will be prostituting herself to your neighbor when you’re not around. Only a fool will want to marry a Russian broad, and so you Indian men are the biggest fools in the world to be proud of marrying Russian broads. And the Russian broad who wrote that Russian women should marry Indian men to save Russia, is making the biggest fools out of Indian chumps. Fuck Broads! And fuck men who marry broads!

  64. Chris Mackney committed suicide on December 29, 2013 because his ex wife was using the divorce courts in America to TORTURE him and kidnap his children from him. He wrote a 4 page suicide note before killing himself.
    http://www.brainsyntax.com/Portal/Material/1/Lasttestamentofalovingfatherabusedbythefamilycourtsystem.pdf
    MAKE THIS VIRAL! THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE EVER TO HIT THE MRA/MANOSPHERE WORLD. THIS IS WHY YOU NEVER GET MARRIED IN AMERICA!!!!!!!!!

  65. I”m a woman and I 100 percent agree with this. I’ve even told men this exact thing, along with avoiding women who only wear high heels and carry giant designer handbags. Unfortunately, men tend to go dumb when a pretty woman enters the picture so only time will tell if they were listening.

  66. Would you make a big party to celebrate going to prison for 10 years?
    No? Then don’t make a big wedding.

  67. “Guys, listen up. If you put a ring on your girl’s finger despite our slut-promoting culture, well-established divorce industrial complex, and pervasive portrayals of married men as incompetent and powerless dweebs, she is already winning the game.”
    It’s about taking back civilization.
    “Despite all of these advantages, if your woman insists on having a large, extravagant wedding, it’s in your best interests to end the relationship as quickly as you can.”
    And this is where you fall completely out of touch with reality. It’s a big party, with relatives and friends. And, you see, you get all kinds of money and gifts. Well worth it.
    Please, stay single…and DON’T reproduce.

  68. Hmm, what if MEN want big wedding? Has happened to me. My husband wanted to have a big wedding, while I hoped for a small gathering. I gave it, since wedding is something you should do together, you both should feel happy about it, and it is all about compromising – just like a marriage, by the way.
    Another word of warning for you, groom-to-bes: you may not want to have a big wedding, but your parents may. Take that.

  69. I remember reading an article last year of some bitch who faked having cancer so her husband would throw her her dream wedding.

  70. You are dumber that a box of rocks. Weddings are special to women, so what if we want a big wedding. You try having a baby in you for 9 months and pushing it out of your junk. That shit doesn’t feel good.

  72. an early sign of things to come…..if the wedding is this ridiculous, then the marriage will be a certain comedy of errors.

  73. Had to laugh. I told my sweetie: you got two choices, you tell the priest we can do it in his office this Thursday, or we can go to the county courthouse Friday.
    The priest did it.

  74. Here’s a solution, if she has the “where is this relationship going” talk, time to get the fuck out.

  75. She insist on a big costly $100,000 wedding….
    You agree and she must pay for 75% since it what she wants….
    Start a wedding company and let your company handle the wedding or no wedding. Worst case scenario you walk away with 50k

  76. Marriage is a complete waste of time. Ever since I woke up to the reality of a girl’s true mating strategy, i’ve come to believe that getting married is the most insulting thing a man can do to himself.
    A girl who spends years of her youth giving her pussy away for free to loser guys with no pot to piss in, isn’t someone who’s worth a wedding in my honest opinion.
    I don’t care how much a girl balks by saying “Well he won’t know…”
    Well it’s simple, if your blow jobs are above average and your ass looks like a crater. Then that’s enough to tell me all I need to know.
    I don’t care how cunning you are dear, but no slut can pull off an oscar worthy performance.

  77. Why wait for wedding planning to smoke out her character?
    A better way is not to buy her a diamond engagement ring. If she flips out, dump her. I am serious as a heart attack.
    My now-wife didn’t care a whit for a diamond, especially after I paced her with a talk about managing money wisely and planning for our future together. That’s one way (among many ways) I knew she was a keeper.

  78. Assuming any of you can maintain a girlfriend that long that isn’t in a vegetative state or hasn’t got a gun pointed at her head.

  79. 1. Not every woman wants a huge wedding
    2. Not every wedding celebration has to break the bank
    3. If we’re following wedding etiquette here, the bride’s family is supposed to pay for the wedding anyway soooo… who cares if she wants one day to feel like a princess?
    I understand what you’re saying if all she wants is the biggest wedding on the planet and wants to spend every dime ever saved and earned on one day of her life with no thought to what the man wants, but you can’t say every woman who wants a big wedding should be dumped. Come on.

  81. I absolutely despise weddings, an incredible display of female narcissism and a massive waste of money. Young people do not have money and seriously need to save and invest in something proper. Spending this kind of money is insane, imagine how angry she’d be if an average starting out in life male without much in the way of assets blew several grand on Super Bowl tickets to sit around for 3 hours and watch a game and have nothing to show for your investment afterwards. (a far less expensive endeavor than the typical wedding may I add) Yet somehow it’s OK for her to squander the potential down-payment on a home on a stupid, boring party. Not to mention the little ladies all HAVE TO HAVE IT ON A SATURDAY which are booked solid for a year on out and they have to pay an incredible premium when they can rent out that hall for a fraction of the cost on a Thursday night, what two spendthrift lesbians whose brother I worked with did.

    1. Well spoken, sir. Marriage is an absolute scam. Take the money you plan on burning on a stupid wedding and put that into a savings / retirement account.

  83. “Besides getting some great recipes for my slow-cooker”. So funny. Why do women assume that men don’t like to eat good food?

  84. Hmm… my husband and I wanted to skip the wedding entirely and spend our money traveling on the honeymoon. We both were interested in the same places so we both we’re like “European Honeymoon”!
    Then my mother heard of our plan and the parent cudgels came out. My mother had been planning my wedding since birth. *sigh* Couldn’t disappoint the mother.
    But since my parents were playing the “father-of-the-bride-pays” tradition (which my husband thought was a wonderful tradition) I told my mom to plan whatever she wanted. I was happy to go along with what she and my dad could afford.
    My mother LOVED planning my wedding. She also kept it within their budget.
    And my husband and I still got our fantasy euro honeymoon. He picked out the countries he’d always wanted to visit and I wanted to see them too. And away we went ~
    So it’s not always the chick wanting the wedding. Sometimes it’s her mom.

    1. Yeah, I never been into weddings either. My family is religious so they’ll expect me to do SOMETHING besides sign the papers, but I’m just gonna say “Fine, if you want to pay for me to have a wedding I’ll play along, but I’m not spending my money on putting on a show for you that has little to do with my actual relationship with my husband.”

  85. Make offspring without marriage or wedding. People fixate too much on marriage and weddings, meanwhile only the low IQ folk are multiplying

  86. If it were truly a traditional wedding, you would not be paying for it. The bride’s family would be.

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