Irresponsible Journalists Are Using Elliot Rodger To Push A Privileged White-Girl Agenda

The unholy sorority of short-haired women “journalists”–and their bearded lapdogs–just found a new accessory for their white-girl victim narrative. A few days ago a deranged college kid, at the end of his rope of isolation and social awkwardness, tragically killed six innocent people in Santa Barbara, California. Despite his self-assessed “good looks” and driving “a nice car,” he claimed to have never so much as kissed a girl. He’d come to resent not only the women who’d ignored him since he’d arrived in the lively college-party enclave of Isla Vista, but also the men who had been successful with those very women.

He made a series of chilling videos charting his growing resentment, and belonged to a online forum called PUAHate, where he commiserated and criminally conspired with other social rejects to exact revenge on the people they collectively blamed for their failures—commercial pick-up artists (“PUAs”), women, and miscellaneous internet commentators on men’s issues. The site, which had the word “hate” right in the title, was replete with angry screeds against each of those categories. Unfortunately for all of us, at least one of its members made good on their hundreds of promises (still visible in cached copies of the now-deleted website) to “ruin the lives” of their supposed victimizers.


The PUAHate killings are many things. They’re a disturbing glimpse into the effects of a prevailing social milieu that—through technology and coddling—favors social isolation and self-pity over old-fashioned socialization and “coming out of your shell.” They’re a view into what a mentally ill young man, deprived of affection and inclusion—by both sexes—is capable of. They’re a commentary on the massive differences between online communities that encourage positive self-improvement and those that peddle in hatred, violent imagery, and self-defeatism.

Perhaps this should come as no surprise, but, like a childhood game of telephone, this story has quickly mutated in the hands of irresponsible and incompetent “journalists” with a long track record of making any story in the news fit the same set of political talking points. Not letting a tragedy go to waste, internet feminists Amanda Hess, Laurie Penny, Amanda Marcotte,  Anne Theriault, Patrick McGuire, Nicole Flatow, and their ilk pounced on this story, immediately forcing it to fit their standard narrative, and flying in the face of intellectual honesty and nuance in the process. In lieu of responsible analysis, they’ve managed to explain away the entire thing with their catch-all bugaboo, “misogyny.” An incredibly complex set of circumstances, that led to an equally complex and tragic outcome, has been reduced to their explanation for every other privileged white-woman’s problem.


In doing so, they reproduce the violence of that tragic day and re-victimizing the victims by cynically distorting the truth to benefit their intellectually bankrupt agenda. They profligately squander an opportunity to arrive at real answers, and instead force-feed their readers and the countless victims-by-proxy the same vacuous propaganda.

These “journalists” and their stories have several things in common:

They wheel out the same-old “misogyny” chimera.

The catch-all phrase “misogyny” has quickly turned into the internet-feminist’s version of the “War on Terror,” a never-ending conflict with an invisible enemy that can never be defeated and could be anywhere. Like George W. Bush, they raise the “terror alert” color from a permanent orange to red whenever they sense the tide turning against their narrative. This was again the case with the PUAHate killings.

Rather than recognize that Elliot Rodger (and PUAHate) reserved some of his most poisonous hatred for men, particularly men from ethnic-minority groups, they elide the part of his ideology that doesn’t fit their version of events. Even the relatively few writers that manage to acknowledge that the PUAHate Killer made racist remarks online, quickly return to “misogyny” as the overriding force in the acts. They also fail to distinguish between Rodger’s true hatred of women, and men who simply are critical of certain women. In their hands, basically anything that doesn’t unequivocally praise women becomes misogyny, whether you’re a crazed murderer or a guy who simply thinks having no domestic skills, and being proud of it, is a deal-breaker in a woman.

They cynically ignore the fact that he killed twice as many men as he did their precious white girls.

Missing White Girl Syndrome, where a white woman’s life is worth more than anyone else’s, makes its unambiguous appearance. Several stories that have focused on Rodger’s supposed hatred of women as the singular factor in the murders fail to acknowledge that Rodger, in fact, killed four men and two women. One story leaves out the Asian victims of his crimes entirely. Rodger may have resented women, but he expressed equal hatred for the men who were successful with those women. His actions bear this out. But, we mustn’t forget that he murdered two lily-white sorority girls.


They deliberately collapse categories of disparate male communities so they can pin this horrific crime on all of them.

Commercial “pickup artists,” men’s rights activists (MRAs), and men’s interest sites (the manosphere) are wildly different communities with very little overlap except that they’re populated by men, and to a certain extent, talk about women. Commercial pickup artists sell products, ones that center on meeting women using a particular (and often flamboyant and public) style. Men’s rights activists are chiefly focused on complaining about injustices in the legal system, often adopting the same sort of victim-narrative approach as feminists. Men’s interest sites focus on self-improvement, and fulfillment in life (including their love lives) through living an independent lifestyle, understanding the nature of women and men, and disconnecting from the robust set of harmful myths fed to today’s young man (often borrowing the phrase “taking the red pill” to describe the process).

But these writers, whose elite educations suggest they’re intelligent enough to tell the difference, deliberately collapse these extraordinarily different realms into one category—places that supposedly espouse “hatred of women”—then try to pin this horrific crime (through insinuation) on the entire fake category they’ve invented in her mind. This is both transparent and intellectually dishonest.

They absurdly conflate “pickup artists” with their opposite–people who actively despise them.

Saying Elliot Rodger practiced “pickup artistry” because he belonged to PUAHate is like saying a Williamburg hipster eats meat because he’s president of a vegan club. It’s as incoherent as it is laughable. Rodger firmly rejected “pickup artistry,” self-improvement, and self-awareness. He belonged to a community devoted to not only discrediting pickup artistry, but in fact ruining the lives of people they perceived as its purveyors. Using terms like “alpha,” popularized all over internet nowadays, certifies his status as a “pickup artistry” follower as much as a suburban white kid’s use of hip-hop lingo turns him into a legit gangsta rapper.

They base their conclusions on a fundamental misunderstanding of “game.”

Game is little more than the colloquial term for what a man does to meet and attract women. It’s not “manipulation” any more than a girl wearing makeup, high heels, and a padded bra is manipulation. Game is talking to girls with confidence; being provocative, but also charming and interesting; and recognizing the difference between what a girls says she wants and the traits of the guys she actually leaves the bar with.

Despite the popularity of the term with the hoi polloi, game doesn’t equal “negging,” an old, and relatively marginal, practice engaged by commercial pickup artists over a decade ago. Wearing nice shoes is game. Doing yoga in a studio populated with actresses is game. Asking a girl for directions to a place you’ve been to ten times, as an excuse to spark a real conversation with her, is game. Game has existed since men first walked out of caves and subtly inserted killing three mastodons into his grunts at the tribe’s resident hottie. It will still exist when we all return to those caves.


They ignore the role of broken systems and Rodger’s acceptance of a defeatist set of beliefs.

Elliot Rodger didn’t kill people because he didn’t like women. He killed people because he was mentally ill, had a crippling obsession with his race and his own looks, and was willfully ignorant of what today’s woman is actually attracted to. This cocktail fermented into a growing rage, for which he had no outlet. Moreover, he was goaded on by a community of fellow degenerates (PUAHate), who played into his personal insecurities, likely fed him violent ideas, and reinforced the notion that the die has been cast for him. As far as Rodger was concerned, he couldn’t improve his social skills and his appeal to women (that is, learn “game”) and realize his potential.

Finally, a series of broken systems failed him. His parents failed to train him in basic life-saving social skills, and a female-centric mental-health system failed to recognize the unique problems faced by a young man today.

They write off some young men’s frustration with a shitty dating market as “entitlement.”

The PUAHate Killer didn’t feel he was “entitled” to sex with women. He mistakenly (and delusionally) felt he was doing everything right, and was perplexed by the fact it wasn’t working. Of course, he wasn’t doing anything right. He was doing what a bunch of other supremely unsuccessful men, and a clueless feminized media, told him was right: pretending to be a “perfect gentleman,” acquiring expensive stuff, avoiding those evil “pickup artists” with their “game,” and waiting for the women to line up outside his dorm.

But, in the real world, a man has to account for realities in the current dating climate or face the sort of loneliness that would drive a normal man crazy, never mind a sociopathic one like Rodger. The same things that impressed your mother wouldn’t impress today’s iPhone-addicted, Tinder-using, NuvaRing-wearing 20-something.


They pathologize and criminalize plain-and-simple guy talk.

The great irony is that the overriding problem here isn’t “misogyny,” but instead the very misuse and abuse of the term. It’s the mislabeling of plain-and-simple guy talk on how to be attractive to today’s woman as “manipulation” or “hatred of women” that’s creating a generation of disaffected, isolated, and confused young men with nowhere to go for answers. In pathologizing and criminalizing communities of men talking about men’s stuff, these writers are complicitous in the mental anguish of clueless men like Rodger, and in the acts that they commit. They drive them into unhealthy shitholes like PUAHate, rather than healthy, positive communities of supportive men talking like men talk.

Don’t trust the mentally ill to comment on the mentally ill.

Whether you agree with my views on women with short hair or my assessment of male feminists or not, there’s little doubt that these writers are dishonest and incompetent, at best, or deluded and dangerous, at worst. Their pathological obsession with the privileged white girl’s catch-all of “misogyny”—at the expense of any other explanatory apparatus—seems to suggest the latter. In either case, their work makes it patently clear that they have zero credibility on the tragic PUAHate killings. They’ve displayed time after time that their agenda is, and will continue to be, finding their misogyny bogeyman under every stone. And that’s it.

When the answer is actually something else—as it is with these tragic events—you simply can’t trust these so-called journalists.

Read More: We Are Silencing Men By Calling Them Misogynists

548 thoughts on “Irresponsible Journalists Are Using Elliot Rodger To Push A Privileged White-Girl Agenda”

    1. We can actually set our clocks by the appearance of white knights heroes like yourself. You’re better than the Swiss movement in my watch.

  1. King Tut knocks it out of the park here! What passes for journalism these days is just shameful.

    1. He was DEAD wrong about negging though. Negging IS game. Negging is a tool in the game utility belt which has gotten me countless amounts of pussy. I know negging gets us flack from phaggots and women but so what? Don’t disown negging to try to make us look good.
      A good neg will make the difference between getting your dick wet by a hottie or having to settle for dat dere 6.
      I know he’s trying to make us all look like angels because of this massacre, but lets be honest. We still neg. We still peacock. We’re not just a self improvement group, we’re a seduction group too.

      1. he’s not tring to make us look all like angels, rather he’s exposing THEIR blatant misandrist agenda.
        And do you really tell a girl “nice nails, are they real” in 2014? Game and negs as we knew them have evolved.

        1. Do you even approach? A subtle neg can diffuse the greatest of bitch shields. Stop acting like a faggot.
          Nice guys think they’re nice guys because they don’t neg. Thats what ‘assholes’ do. etc. Don’t be one of those betas

        2. A subtle neg can diffuse the greatest of bitch shields.

          True, but would you say “negging is game and game is negging” ? I don’t think you would. If you look back at the quote in the article:

          …game doesn’t equal “negging,”…

          He’s correct. Game encompasses all techniques used to charm a woman into appreciating your presence. As such, Game does not equal “negging”, however, negging is an aspect of game that is useful on the most self-absorbed women.

        3. You have a fair and balanced comment.
          The message that was conveyed to me in the article was “its not negging, its going to yoga classes” and I started to wonder if Tuth had any game at all. Then I realized, hey, the spotlight is on us and he wants us to look good.
          You are correct to point out the mistake in my phrasing though, game does not equal negging, nor does negging equal game, but we shouldn’t eschew our methods to appease our critics.
          In fact, if Elliot Rogers was better at negging playfully IRL and not just being a surly emo loser on youtube he could have gotten so much pussy. Negging (and some medication and a lot of practice) could have literally saved 7 lives.
          Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your point of view and clarification. (srs)

        4. Yeah, the yoga class comment didn’t strike me as a technique I would ever employ. Yoga isn’t masculine to my eyes. Stretching, yes, Yoga, no.

        5. Like anything it depends who teaches it. Martial arts can be feminine if the instructor is feminine. Not passive feminine but aggressive feminine.

        6. As a black dude who has visited two yoga classes with a female friend I can attest that it is very good strategy. I went to two hot yoga classes a few years ago, both filled with white late 20’s, 30’s and a few older 40ish. Besides a few gay guys I was the only man in the class. The outcome, I got head from a woman from each class with very little effort. Both in my car actually after hanging out in a group setting downtown.
          Believe it or not hot yoga is actually exhausting. It’s good stretching and isometrics. Coupled with the heat you drop a few pounds of liquid and actually feel “cleansed” or sort of lighter and alert afterwards. Try it and see if it works.

        7. Maybe that’s why my experience with “negging” was a massive fail. A guy who supposedly really liked me “negged” me on an early date. It’s a little embarrassing, but I was so hurt I burst into tears. What was weird to me was he was actually confused about why I didn’t want to date him after that.

        8. I think you miss the Yoga class point. The odds are def in your favor. Not to mention, lots of actually very nice, well-meaning women like to help out. If you’re a guy that goes to yoga and are slightly terrible and inflexible, but you try and you joke about it and ask for advice from some of the women, they will try and help you and it can be fun. Women want someone they can talk to and who makes them laugh… not just some chiseled bozo that’s so into himself he can only perform “masculine” activities.

        9. gtfo you dumb bitch, no one wants to read your shit.
          Mods please take this down

        10. Lol… I’m literally agreeing with the article that there is game to be had in going to yoga.

        11. So, if he knew how to put down women gently that would have changed his whole way of thinking and kept him from going out and altogether killing them. Wow. You should write a book! You’d makes lots of money.
          Do you know how absolutely insane that sounds? Seriously, you’re all crazy! Every. Single. One.

        12. Another jealous white guy w/ a small dick. Cant wait to fuck this blond white bitch tonight & think how mad white boys like you are when I bust all over her thin flat ass lol….

      2. While negging is useful, I always thought negging was overblown the way looking for tells in Poker is overblown. Yes, it is a useful tool but it’s one that you rarely use in extreme circumstances. I don’t neg every girl I approach. I only neg the ones that are acting like a bitch.

      3. You’d probably do better to give up “negging”, and just talk shit to women like normalized, successful guys do.

        1. No I’m not. Calling it “negging” is something that only exists among people who read PUA on the internet or have watched Mystery’s show.

      4. Negging is really only truly successful if it is done in a playful-joking manner. Sort of like the way we throw cracks with close friends or how we used to tell yo mama jokes as teens. Successful, meaning no one’s feelings really get hurt, self esteem stays intact, but the underlying subtle “sting” of the joke hits it’s target with a soft impact and throws the person off, while not being off putting.

    2. I must admit I also dislike PUA. Not the movement or the community but all those self proclaimed mPUA’s charging $3000 for boot-camps.
      The PUA community started out a s a forum. A group of Beta’s got together and tried to work out why they where unsuccessful. From there a semi science for pick-up emerged. (a semi science is like alchemy whilst a science would be chemistry).
      Anyhow, the community forum had a working theory. Some lads in California hit the beach promenade and put their theory’s to work, refining them and reporting results.
      Some members where more experienced than others so they would teach and train the newer members altruistically. Occasionally the students would pay cab and drinks to the teachers in exchange for the time of the more experienced members.
      So far so good.
      Then comes along a clown called Mystery and another called Deangelo. They, like other American Turds decide that this should be a profitable industry and PUAs should be mass produced like the ford model t. The cunts start exposing the community (which is an altruistic self help by men for men) for personal profit at the detriment of PUA’s. PUA’s have a terrible image now.
      What’s the first rule of fight club?

      1. Ironically Deangelo was the first place I ended up years ago as a teen, looking up how to get a girlfriend. I don’t remember what else happened though, it probably wasn’t good.

      2. Exactly. Mainstream PUA is a horrible, horrible scam…and it works because people who are lonely want to believe that a “quick fix” exists.
        In the real world, no canned routine, opener(no matter how clever or well written), etc is going to work unless you have a solid masculne foundation….unless you are a man who is healthy, confident, and knows how to talk to people.
        Once you have that then it’s no longer necessary to use mystery-method style gimmicks.

        1. I agree with you on this point. Honestly, the most attractive thing is when someone is simply comfortable in their own skin. They’re not mimicking some outrageous pickup artist or trying to be a “perfect gentleman” or flaunting money or anything else. People can only feel as comfortable around you as you feel around yourself. Elliot Rodger had Asperger’s Syndrome AND Narcissistic Personality disorder. People with AS often find social situations uncomfortable and can come off as awkward, and contrary to popular belief, NPD often stems from low self-esteem issues. There were some very clear warning signs. All anyone would have to do is look at his YouTube channel to see that he needed professional help from a therapist to help establish what you referred to as a “strong masculine core”, which I think of more as the inner self of every human being, man and woman where your identity lies. Man, I really just feel bad for everyone in this situation: the men and women he murdered, Elliot himself and all of their families.

        2. I doubt whether any professional therapist can do it, though. The problem with therapy is that you often know that deep down you’re just a client…and that relationship will only last as long as you have problems.
          It’s much better to have real, trustworthy friends who are with you for the long haul.

      3. While aspects of PUA mindset are useful for picking up parasitic or damaged women. Aimed solely at harvesting resources -the money I can handle the life blood and energy I cannot. Game is a necessary evil at best and an unnecessary evil at worst.

      4. So, you’re finally agreeing with me? You should never view yourselves as a group or community because that only makes you are target. I’ve never read puahate because it was taken down but I understand that their whole thing was that all you needed was money and a lot of junk to get females.That doesn’t hurt but if you’re a total misfit and won’t even talk to a girl it won’t help either except in rare cases where females will approach you if you’re good looking and don’t look like a psycho.
        That picture that you posted to illustrate this article has to be the most unappetising group I’ve ever seen. Don’t give these freaks any publicity because they are basically nonentities with few readers and really don’t matter. Don’t argue or try to “debate” them either. Ignore them. Not one person that I know would even know who any of them are.
        “Fruitloops” Futrelle has the same dirty dozen freaks on his site. He can’t even break the Alexa 1 millionth mark in ratings. What’s so retarded about this guy is that when he wants to “prove” something he links to another loser who also has a few readers and who also can’t break the 1 millionth mark lol
        I have to wonder what would make a man constantly write comments on some blog that never gains any readers and in fact is losing them and associate with a dozen freaky females all day, and believe me I’ve analysed them and they belong in a lunatic asylum.He obviously has some psychiatric condition and is living on benefits like SSI. Don’t waste your time with these freaks of nature.And don’t hit his page because even a few hits when your ratings are so low will bring up the rating with these bottomfeeders.

      5. I don’t know about the American PUAs, but I’ve benefitted tremendously from the knowledge of guys out of London: Nick Krauser, Steve Jabba, Tom Torero, Yad, etc. These men are pros and the information they share or sell is top-notch. They in turn were inspired by Mystery and Strauss, but developed their own model of game. Had PUA never gone mainstream, tens of thousands of men would still be stuck in a rut and frustrated as hell. Though Roosh doesn’t describe himself as a PUA he sells books about meeting and sleeping with women. The media is adamant about lumping disparate groups together, we can do better than that.

        1. His books include a lot of memorizeable routines, so while he may not call himself a PUA he does follow that school of game.

      6. This. The commercialization of PUA is its own downfall. A disgrace to the art.
        I learned about Game from the Manosphere. Roosh, ROK, and to a lesser extent the bitter, snarky, nihilistic musings of Heartiste made me a better man. Between them and the library, I’ve never paid a dime to learn Game.
        In another Universe, I may have been Elliot Rodger.

        1. Also try player Supreme. He doesn’t teach much technique but he’s fantastic at picking out your nerdy quirks and telling you how to get rid of them.

        2. It started commercial. PUA sites alike Roosh are the result of almost two decades of slowly increasing awareness that was driven by commercialism. Also, do you think that RooshV wasn’t started to be a commercial venture? The free blogs are a very recent development. You have it a bit backwards.

    3. The MSM is studiously ignoring an alternative to to the “Misogyny” theory. It’s blatant like a coordinated attack on Manosphere. The whole thing smells like a psyop. Could the roommates have been killed to leave no witnesses and no awkward questions. ROK needs a bitcoin address so we can support them without relying on Visa/MC.

    4. Do not even get me started on the amount of censorship that the MSM is guilty of. I thought that I wanted to be a journalist until I did an internship and saw what was really going on. It is all political and corrupt.

  2. Every time I see David Futrelle’s fat face it reminds me why I need to work out, practice martial arts, and take care of my appearance. I never want to be such a useless, self-loathing sack of low-t shit that I must resort to pandering to women’s sensitive hurt egos on the internet to get a scrap of female attention. Guy has never been in a fight, never banged a women who didn’t actively repulse better-looking men, and lives online. Why does anyone listen to him about masculinity… or anything? Talk about the blind leading the blind.

      1. Jeez, Comic Book Guy. He looks like a younger version of George R.R. Martin.

      1. Ah, I see. Now I know why he used to name his site “manboobz”. Very fitting… yeah, very fitting indeed.

      2. This photo says it all. His appearance demonstrates that he has no self-respect. I feel sorry for him. Here’s the Summer Challenge: Monday, Wednesday, Friday: run. Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday: lift. Sunday is a day of rest, reflection, leisure. Every day: eat a healthy balanced meal three times a day, read, work towards a goal, any goal. He would be in shape, getting laid, and finding his attitude changing by Labor Day.

    1. yes, I am going to go do some lifting now, thanks for the repulsive reminder

    2. David Putridlle is an wretched little worm whose words are only believed by similarly braindamaged misandrists.

  3. Another product of liberal divorce culture, and the feminists want to blame patriarchy. Virtually all the killers in events like this are the product of single mother “families.” Heck I’ll go further, most criminals are the products of single mother “families.” Single mothers are ruining the country one child at a time.

    1. I’ve read most of the manifesto. While he was around his father maybe a 1/3 of the time, he claims his father didn’t treat him how to be social and his father was “absent” and not really there for him. He went through periods where he was estranged from his father and step mother. Some of the blame for this guy not being raised to be a man falls on his father in this case, but otherwise I agree with your post.

      1. I made a similar comment as well – where is the “media-outrage” re this nut jobs parents?!?! That poor Dad who has been all over TV crying about his lost son is heartbreaking – but why is his outrage directed towards guns and NOT this guys Father!?! Someone allegedly created and raised this monster and they did a pretty awful job..

      2. Elliot’s stepmother resented him and his father ended up taking the stepmother’s side whenever arguments ensued. The father was often busy with work. The combined effects of this, and the fact that he was only with his father on weekends, meant that he did not hardly have any relationship with his father. Elliot admitted his father was distant in the manifesto.
        I would say Elliot also had mommy attachment issues. He constantly called his mommy to cry about things.
        I think it is pretty safe to say that with more male guidance (and in particular male empathy), especially during his younger years when he was developing social phobia and self esteem issues, Elliot would have turned out better.

      3. Listen brothers. I’m not sure anyone can bear the brunt of the blame for this kid’s reprehensible behavior. He was a psychopath. He was not connected to reality. I read the manifesto too, not the entire thing, but large sections of it. He felt rejected by everybody including women, and had intense hatred because of that rejection. But the reality is, it appears he was never actually rejected. From what I read he never once approached a female with interest. He never even tried. The rejection was all in his imagination. It was perceived rejection, an imagined outcome that never played out in reality.

    2. Very few people know this fact. You could show the statistics on this phenomenon to the feminists and people who are pro-single mother and they would deny it. They would just talk about all of guys that they know who were raised by single mothers and how they have never committed a crime as a way to deny it.
      The MSM does a good job of keeping this information out of the public eye. Even if it did publish such information the mothers would deny and say things like, “my little johnny would never do a thing like that” only for little johnny to grow up and do a thing like that.
      Parents tend to be in denial about what their children are really going through. Especially when divorce is involved.

      1. Damn straight. If the government was doing it’s job, single motherhood would be illegal. Children -especially boys- need a strong male figure in their lives. The lack of male authority in a child’s life is a surefire way to ensure he will become a social outcast and likely a sociopath.

  4. Brilliantly written article written from a well researched subjective standpoint. Good job, Tuth.

  5. Women and playing the victim. What else is new? The kid stabbed three (Asian) men to death before going on a shooting spree, killing: one hispanic man and two white women. The stabbing of the Asian men is quite telling, Eliot was an obvious racist. If anything Asians should come out and protest racism.

    1. I can honestly say That mainstream media never views Asian men as a primal threat in the physical sense. Perhaps Eliot Rodgers viewed them as a threat in the sense that they are the new Betas. A group seen as being better providers who are well educated and will supplicate and massage women’s egos. I have seen some white women with Asian men and the white women treat them terribly. They treat the white women like Gods. Perhaps the Eliots beta provider identity was under threat? It certainly want a “kill the jocks” type agenda.

        1. because he felt the jocks “deserved” the women.
          He sees these other Asian men getting white women and all is not right in the world. He hears his sister orgasming and it makes it all more real to him
          His self loathing is unbelievable. He’s a racist that’s for sure.

      1. He hated them because they reminded him of his own asianness. He hated that (mommy issues?). At one point (see manifesto) he even dyed his hair blonde to better fit in with the white crowd at school (which problably looked awkward as hell because of his obviously Asian facial features). Also remember that this guy didn’t just want any girl, he specifically wanted a caucasian with blonde hair and blue eyes (the mother he actually wanted instead of the “inferior” Asian he got). This kid had a roster of problems beginning with emotionally unavailable parents and ending with unavailable romantic relations.

      2. The Asians got shanked because 2 Asians were his roommates and 1 came over to visit them. Elliot first part of the plan was to trick people back to his apartment, shank em, cut off their heads and sling their heads out of the car.

    1. Quintus a good article would be a psychological take. Mogdan( tech head Rap label) was fired for saying Eliots Rodgers sister is hot. Eliot said he was enraged whenever he heard his sister have sex. My best guess is that this kid was shocked that women could show such permissiveness and be given constant societal approval while he was given no sex and essentially ostracised as a leppar. The merits for which male and females attain sex-fashion being bitchy and narcissistic he emulated as a means to gain sex as this is the female prism to enjoy and gain sex.

        1. Roosh had a great article but something deeper. Something similar to what Billy Chubb’s has taken towards. Why are young men the main group committing mass murder? I think the mass media misrepresents the issue. Seth Rogan went off at some feminist who pointed that it was likely from Hollywood over representing the sexual fantasies of men. i beg to differ. Hollywood is creating and mass producing the reality that it wants to push towards mankind. I brave new world where “everyone belongs to everyone else”. Feminists truly want to redistribute the talents of men in the form of taking on their progeny which they can only do if men breed with them. So less of an analysis of Rodgers and more of an analysis of the breakdown of those who are sexually disenfranchised. I went off on a tangent but there is a lot to break down.

        1. Well damn diddly, I wouldn’t kick her out of bed for eating crackers.

        2. She is not that hot. Let’s not give fodder, aid nor comfort to the enemy by claiming that a 7 is a 9 and perpetuating the bullshit stereotype that RoK writers/commenters have no grasp on accurate SMV appraisal. She’s fuckable, but not LTRable. She’s thin enough, so I guess that counts as ‘hot’ in this feminist wasteland of land whales…but fuck that, let’s call a spade a spade. Heavy eye makeup and a middling face. 7 to 7.5 at best.

        3. In counter-fairness, you can’t get her body shape from that picture very well. Her hair and the awkward pose conspire to hide the size of her chest, and her waist/hips are basically invisible in this pose.

        4. 7-7.5 perhaps, for her age. But in her absolute prime. hence 8 to 9 across all borderline fertile women. Even skinny girls really ought to have some trace of lips to be truly hot, though.

        5. Holy chit. I noticed mommy there really loves her genetically upgraded daughter. She probably hated her half Chinese son, being the racist she is. She couldn’t breed the asian outta herself, hahahahaha.

        6. Are you serious? Tell me you’re joking! If she is a 7, then who are the nines? She is definitely in the 95-99th percentile of hotness. That is a 9 in my book.

        7. Poor Elliot Rodgers. The guy didn’t know his niche. He didn’t know that women like his sister and Asian women were his niche and probably his only market. White men, Black men (depends on the type of black man too) and maybe Latin men have their pick of the litter internationally. Blonde haired, blue eyed white women on average simply don’t like Asian men, they don’t have the necessary characteristics that makes them appealing to white women. However, maybe some facial hair would have changed the game for Elliot or maybe not. But if the alternative is picking up women like his fine ass sister than hell, that’s a fine alternative any day than all the slutty Beckys in the world.

        8. Poor indeed. The kid was in self destruct mode. He wanted that which he couldn’t have (subconciously he knew this) i.e. the younger versions of Pamela Anderson. The main point really aren’t the – blonde – girls. His issues run much deeper. First and foremost beginning with his relationship with his mother.

        9. Come on, lads she looks pretty bloody ordinary. It also looks like she’s fixed her tits and breeched her teeth.

        10. Smoking hot? Can’t see to much of the body, but that face, while ok, is definitely not in smoking territory.

        11. She’s a 5, about average. My Mashenka is in the top 98% and is all natural. You’ve seen her pic but I made her take it down because I don’t want you little perverts jerking off to it.

        12. No one wants negroes so stop deluding yourself. The only thing lower is US Negro females, the bottom of the barrel and only fit for gorilla matings.

        13. What happened was a tragedy. I’m sure this mother loved both of her children and realized her son was dealing with some serious mental issues. Here is a snippet of what he wrote in his manifesto:
          “Mother always got me what I wanted, right when I wanted it. At mother’s house, all of my needs were met with EXCELLENT PRECISION, whereas at my father’s house, there would always be a time delay because father and Soumaya had less time for me, and paid less attention to me.”
          The words of a very spoiled young man, but his probably attempted to meet his every whim as not to disrupt is very delicate mental state and flimsy hold of reality. It sounds like she was a loving mother dealing with a very unstable child.

        14. My brother these are very true words you have spoken. Although I think Elliot simply never attempted to approach women at all. But Asian men are notorious for not knowing what they have. I work with a lot of Asian guys of various ethnicities. The one consistent factor is that most of these Asian guys pine tall blonde hotties that they have no chance of getting. We have several hot Asian females in our office and I hear the same things over and over. “Yuck, you think she’s hot? In Asian culture she’s like a 2.” “Yuck, no way I would go for her, it would be like me going after my sister.” I hear that shit all the time.
          Yet the few Asian guys I know that go for their own females with confidence usually get women who are more attractive than them. Loyal women that put up with their lazy awkward asses, take all their shit, and don’t complain. Why so many Asian men let white guys drink from their well while they go thirsty I will never know the full answer. To all Asian men: sack up and take your women back.

        15. Yeah man, every man has to know his niche and market, just as any business needs to know their liquid demographics. I mean if you’re Apple Inc, you don’t set up stores in poor neighborhoods. A man finds out around 21, what types of women like him and what types don’t. Of course there are exceptions, but life is a game of averages and why pursue the black swans when you can have a feast on the white ones all day? Some men are more appealing to more women, but fuck, what can you do, life “ain’t” fair. As a biracial guy, I would never ever go to Asia and expect the women to start dropping the panties. I know which women on average will “get down” for me, and which won’t, and play the averages, not the odds. In essence, life. is. too. goddamn. short. to chase after black swans.

        16. I was refering to the photo with the mother when I made that comment. After seeing other pictures of her I must say she is very average in the face but has a nice fit body. She’s a solid 6 in my book.

        17. I would say a solid 6. WNB. Not worth the effort when I have done and can do better.

        18. Also, it’s just that the way the white western woman has been over-marketed particularly those of the blonde, blue-eyed variation had made them items of high value in Asia due to their scarcity. Whether in pornography or your average shitty commercial these women were the forbidden fruit for these men. Now, one would think a successful Asian man, who let’s say is a computer engineer from MIT and works in the high tech computer trading office of Barclays would have success with high value white women, right? Wrong. Genetics and attraction are funny things, a motherfucker even. Let’s take Jevon with dreadlocks, 2 felonies, on parole and no viable job-prospects but yet has a Jamaican accent and can show up to certain clubs and get white pussy on-demand. It completely baffles rational people, but sex, genes and attraction don’t work that way. Like I said, they are approachable but just don’t quite know which team outside of their own, they can play with yet sans Asian women, who have white men locked down all day.

        19. As likely the most pure blood Aryan man on the forum. Crisp blonde hair, stone cold blue eyes and skin that sparkles white in the Autumn sun. I can say in all truth that some darker skinned women are attractive. The Ethiopian type or mulatto. Asian women are of no real interest to me except Japanese. As for the fixation of other races towards white women. Please go ahead. At this point most are obese and self destructive. If you work really hard and want to throw it away or want to waste your money on damaged goods then by all means it helps society that you slave away your lives for something of so little value. As for me… well I’m selling out my Aryan progeny for Armenian-Jewish progeny who can rule over the plebs.

        20. You’ve been watching too many Jew made Hollywood films.
          No respectable White female would ever even go near some dirty funky Jamaican who uses horse manure as a pomade on his dreadlocks. Those Hollywood films have really rotted your brain and you’re out of touch with reality. Do you really believe that lard butt and pot bellied doofus Rogan was going to get to shag that blonde in that Knockedup films? lol That girl would get herself scraped out at the hospital the next day for fear of having got knocked up by some penniless freak.

        21. You , Mashenka, and Prince Valiant are all the same person, so by masturbating you have a threesome.

        22. You have deluded yourself into believing that others believe your bullshit fake MD and pretend girlfriends Maria, Maschenka, and the dashing prince. You are silly. By the way did I mention I am an astronaut now and I am going with Manshenka to Mars. She is leaving you for a real man!

        23. That’s pop culture, and definitely not genetics, and the real world effect of it is mostly in your head in the example given. The most pathetic gutter slut might go for the type of person whose image you painted (admittedly, those gutter sluts are more likely to be at the clubs where Jevon goes), but most white girls wouldn’t go near him. As I before stated, the perspective of black men is skewed through social circle selection bias.
          At no point in time, other than the present, was there any clamoring of any significant group of ANY women for any other race but their own. There is zero genetic basis for what you claim. It’s the influence of social liberalization, period.
          Here’s why Asian women have an edge with white men: Asian women more often mirror the IQ of white men in contrast with white women. Although, that reality is less true amongst certain white groups who maintain a little bit of isolation. Higher IQ partner=better sex assuming there is a bit of testosterone there to drive it. Asian men are smart but tend to lack Alpha. Smart Alpha partners make the best sex partners for both males and females. Research proves it, and so does my experience in fucking women across the spectrum.

        24. Zero genetic basis? Heterogeneity and Hybrid Vigor applies to humans. I’m no fan of the liberals, but let’s be honest, in-group breeding is a function of property, not desire. Some dumb ass 19 year old girl in Prussia in let’s say 1794 had no option of whom she’d like to fuck and marry. It probably would have been the young German stud muscular farmer, but instead daddy married her off to fat, balding and aging Hans for property and wealth (which is a genetic crime by nature). In the book, “Why Women Have Sex,” the biologists postulate from controlled studies, that women are most attracted to men’s pheromones that are most different from their genetic phenotype.
          There’s a very crucial reason for this, because the sweat of one’s relatives is repulsive to women, because it would be like fucking your brother. In essence we are both right, or the biologists and social theorists. The patriarchy albeit served as a mostly positive force for strong state formation is a very small part of human history. We’ve been on this planet for about 250,000 years and only about 4,500 years was dedicated to civilization. Our bodies and genetic proclivities for fucking, killing and eating mostly evolved from our primordial DNA. Civilization allowed us to temper this and hone it, but it also gave us consanguinity, Hapsburg Jaws, hemophilia and the modern shitty western diet. You’re right women are attracted to smart alphas. But I have to tell you, certain women gravitate to certain types of men, and guys like me, quickly find my niche and stick with it. I was at a party yesterday, and again mostly white girls and I were hitting it off, and I’ve always had a better time with White, Middle Eastern, and Latin women than Asian, Black or Indian women.
          I’ve slept with them all, but I know what “got me to the dance” and I stick to it like glue. I don’t go out actively searching for this either, it just happens and I don’t fully believe the social liberalization concept applies either. I’m no foul-mouthed, illiterate, gangsta rap spewing monkey, so I don’t come off as that guy, whom little Ms. Sunshine can piss daddy off with. And to give white women some credit, I don’t see many of them except the broken and poor types with these guys. However, they are going to fuck who they want, and as we’re seeing, it won’t be exclusively white men anymore. I think now that arranged marriages are no longer the standard in the West, I have to say, I think the gene pool will get a lot stronger. And no, I’m not pushing an “agenda.”
          If you look at Jewish arranged marriages, and the cornucopia of “Jewish only” diseases such as Tay Sachs disease or the Old Royal European arranged marriages, where the Hapsburg Jaw and Hemophilia came about, then I’m not so sure this aspect of civilization was quite right. Again, not even 2% of our short existence was spent on civilization, and our bodies are not evolved to eat the shit we’ve been eating nor to continue fucking who we’ve been fucking due to property and wealth formation. It’s a nice concept, trust me, but the body suffers as a result.

      1. The modern American mental heath industry is very feminized. I would only read an article if it were written by a man (a red pill man) otherwise we might end up with what Tuthmosis was writing about. More molding to fit a political agenda. I do not care what people say, but women are incapable of understanding the heterosexual male brain.

        1. Thanks. Correction is the only way we learn and grow. That said I doubt anyone was confused by colloquialism that would infer no other malapropism.

        2. sorry to be douche….
          I had to look up the word…
          A friend of mine recently spent some time on Molokai Hawaii and visited the leper colony and that’s how I knew the correct spelling…

  6. Are you stupid? The videos he put up are all about how he was taking his revenge on women, and how he “deserved” female attention. That IS misogyny. Did you even watch the video?

    1. Yet he killed men, that IS misandry. Did you (should be have you) even read the news?

    2. How is wanting female attention “misogyny”? Does the word have any meaning? He also thought he deserved to win the lottery. Does that mean he hated money?

      1. About as much meaning as “racist” now does. Feminists crying “wolf”…

    3. And yet, he killed four men and only two women. Why would a “misogynist” target males over females?
      Ooops, feminist logical failure loop engaged.

      1. Possibly because he was a latent homosexual. When you read his manifesto it’s interesting to notice that he consistently refers to women as “girls”. He references women in a artificial nonpersonal manner…never being specific about which girl exactly he’s talking about. When speaking about men sometimes the terms he uses have a sexual undertone (hunk). His overfocusing on women comes across as deflection to me. It’s like stubbornly holding on to a subject in a convo just to avoid going to a topic that’s uncomfortable. Just a theory.

    4. Hey shit for brains, did you notice the small little fact that he murdered 4 men!!! Yet, hardly any news bothers to mention them at all.
      And the mainstream has the gall to question why men are angry…

    5. In the manifesto he also goes on and on about hating the men these women are dating — often for reasons of ethnicity.

    6. And yet, he ended up killing more men than women…he couldn’t he succeed in this “Retribution”…a failure in life, a failure in death. Pity that 6 people had to suffer for it.
      It’s not “misogyny”…it’s “misanthropic”. He hated both men and women with impunity.

  7. Misogyny: Anything that makes White-Upper class cunts “feel” unconformable.

    1. I also find that misogyny has become very subjective. Just like rape/sexual assault/sexual harassment has become very subjective. It all depends what the woman feels and she has the right to change her mind.

  8. When men realise that women have no inherent authority over them they will cease to act in a way that seeks their approval.

  9. He had a neurological problem that manifested shortly after puberty. Prior to puberty there was no real desire for women so in isolation he likely had comic books, video games , and other diversions. Once puberty set in and his desire for women became an urgent need , pathological issues began to manifest when he was unable to connect socially with women or men. He stabbed his roommates to death to start his spree, he later targeted females, he had no social connection to either sex.
    In prison to punish inmates the put them ” the hole” there is no human connection or interaction with other inmates. This is punishment for criminals, Elliott was free and basically living in ” the hole” and although he was diagnosed with Aspergers he was high functioning enough to be aware of his situation. More than likely he assumed the car and some cloths would fix the situation, because the problem was not him, it was everyone else not recognizing him. Once he got the Beemer and the cloths and continued to fail it further exsaserbated his pre existing neurological pathology. His best chance at overcoming his difficulties would have required a male behavioral psychiatrist who understands men and their motivations, I doubt he got that.

    1. I think his father actually hired female psychologists. it must have cost a fortune for their bad advice.

  10. Only a Feminist could take a tragedy where twice as mamy men die as women, and claim it was all about misogyny. Once more they demonstrate their incredible self absorbtion.

    1. If zero women had died, they’d still claim victimhood. Feminists are professional victims! They’re the best at it.

  11. It wasn’t just men who were successful with women who he had hate for. He mentions in the manifesto he wrote that his three room mates were “as nerdy as they come” and he still talks about how much he’d enjoy stabbing them to death, which he actually went and followed through with. The guy was clearly incredibly disturbed and was willing to take his frustration out on anyone who he could get his hands on regardless of who they were.
    Feminists are trying to prevent people from describing him as mentally ill just so they can push the concepts of misogyny and ‘white male entitlement’ being the sole reasons for his actions as much as possible. And in order to do this they’re completely disregarding any facts that don’t agree with this idea, which is downright disrespectful towards the victims and incredibly disgusting to use their deaths to push your own personal agenda.

    1. Exactly. He didn’t have a “misogyny” problem, he had a “crazy” problem. If he wasnt hating on PUAs, and the women that love them, it would have been something else. And Feminists, bottom feeding opportunists that they are, are ignoring all components of the story that dont relate directly to them, in order to try and make it illegal for men to be mean to them on the Internet.

      1. Impossible for him to do the second part of that, as I get the impression that the majority of women think mystery-style PUA’s are creepy.

        1. Pity PUAHate is shut down now, it sounds like you’d fit in pretty well there.

  12. People hate on this site, and manosphere blogs in general but they exist for a reason. Someone needs to tell dudes simple shit so they know the basics. Work out, dress better, be cool, improve your attitude, have goals in life and accomplish them. If you do this women will be attracted to you. By a Beemer and be a dick you will be lonely and frustrated. All that kid had to do was focus on something aside from other peoples sexual success and work on himself. In his videos he does not only hate the girl, he is pretty pissed at the guys success and the couples overall happiness.

    1. It doesn’t help that you all have a few idiot posters here who’se posts are indistinguishable from Elliot’s rants.
      A few vocal idiots make everyone look bad.

    2. If you want to know the prime reason the manosphere exists, look no further than Newton’s third law: to every action there is an equal and opposed reaction.

      1. No, you are wrong.
        Newton’s third law is for every male action there is a female overreaction.

  13. I can get more truth spending 5 minutes on the manosphere than I can from watching 5 years of “journalists” on TV or reading one of their rags. These weak minded, often psychopathic people (reference: Time magazine Top 10 Careers for Psychopaths) are little more than paid whores who sell themselves at a very low prices (most “journalists” make chump change) to schill for whatever agenda the corporate elite and government/industrial/pharmaceutical complex pushes down their throat and into their stupid heads.
    Their favorite tactics are screaming racism, sexism, or whatever other ism is popular at the time to keep us all divided against one another for their own profit and ratings, all while duplicitously putting on an act of moral superiority. Oh, and now to a commercial, buy this product and eat this food so you can become bloated consumers in this coast to coast shopping mall/restaurant we used to know as America.
    The first step to a better world would be to stop listening to the messages of division and consumeristic consumption they make their lowlife “careers” with.

    1. I got more truth from 5 minutes on the manosphere than from 5 years in academia.

    2. Too many people have a vested interested in keeping people–and especially men–sedated with consumerism and a sterilized narrative of what’s happening around them.
      There’s a reason they’re trying to criminalize unpopular opinions. They’re a liability.

      1. Unpopular opinions are already criminalized in parts of Europe. Orwell might as well have called his book 2014 or 2024 instead of 1984.

  14. People are always going to use tragedies to push their agenda. It’s an easy way to get your point across, and can catch people when they are off guard emotionally. I cannot blame them for using such tactics.

    1. It can be understandable that people will want to use a recent tragedy as an example when they want to encourage change in society. Sometimes it can be a genuine eye-opener that change is required in some situations. But to outright lie about what went on, either by saying that all 6 of the victims were women or by ignoring facts about the killer’s motives since they don’t agree with what you’re trying to push is just a fucking disgrace.

    2. Politicians and their partners-in-crime of the ‘progressive’ media are especially adept in using this strategy for their own personal gain. They only have to dig up some dirt on their political or idealogical opponents or capitalize on some (manufactured) tragedy, typically just before elections, and the plebs will drop their prior convictions en masse and vote for these political schemers instead. So much for “democracy”.

    3. And the privileged white-women were getting a bit bored with the “Bring our girls home” deal.
      Now they have something new to keep their little squirrel brains Twittering about for another few weeks until they get bored again.

  15. Anyone want to place bets on which liberal webzine is the first to make a call for reparations for white females, given their long history of oppression by white males and their solidarity with People of Colour?

    1. Reparations on top of the *massive* transfer of wealth they already find themselves at the receiving end of? Simply unimaginable.

    2. White women are about as solid with men of color as Tiger Woods’ ex-bitch was with ripping him off to the tune of $250 million. Make no mistake about it, white women may fuck us and you but they are in it for themselves and will make you pay dearly if you approach the situation any differently. Women follow power and when this power was in the hands of men irregardless of race then they followed those men, now that they’ve seized this power with the aid of treacherous men, they simply don’t need men. Look forward to many more men awakening from the raw deal we’ve been handed.

    3. Aren’t they already receiving that? Reperations = Welfare (and other wealth transferring programs).

      1. Yeah. Women and the mega rich must be the most miserable, poorest sods on planet given they are the greatest receivers of welfare.

    4. There’s no real solidarity there. It’s a relationship of convenience, a means to an end.

  16. The George Bush analogy will probably piss them off more than anything else you wrote. Nicely done.

  17. I only found out that Rodgers killed 4 men just now. And I’m shocked and pissed off that the media frames it as misogyny and solidarity for women crap. Unbelievable…

  18. “Elliot Rodger didn’t kill people because he didn’t like women.”
    Didn’t like women? Not liking women will naturally result in indifference (the who gives a fuck attitude). This kid was (as is generally the case with autism) obsessed, with – blonde – females. He was so consumed by them that he justified murder. Before killing the killer has to kill himself. No, if anything he liked women too much.

  19. Good article and I agree. At the same time many of the points you (correctly) make here could also be used against Roosh’s article of yesterday. I thought it was rather classless and blatantly incorrect of him to use the tragedy for the purposes of spreading the gospel of game when it is pretty clear this guy was an equal-opportunity hater with problems that went much deeper than his inability to connect with women. It would have been most excellent, and more effective if this article had been posted and the other left off. Otherwise it just seems like hypocrisy.

  20. Stefan Molyneux has a very good video on Elliot Rodger:

    The fact is, Elliot Rodger stared into the darkness and didn’t blink. Game could not have saved him. He was too absorbed into despair and evil that even if he did manage to pick up women, he still would have resented them.

    1. After watching this video, I have to accept that Game can’t save him. His fate was sealed from childhood. Despite the horrific nature of his crime, I can’t hate him. Rodger was like a rabid animal that had to be either locked up for life or put down for good.

      1. I really don’t agree. Game could have saved him, if it was his father teaching it to him early. His mental illness sprang from childhood envy that his father didn’t do enough to guide.

        1. I’m not so sure.
          Being taught game doesn’t mean one actually applies game.
          It seems Eliot Rodgers was a narcissist. Game only works for those who minds are immersed in reality; narcissists are immersed in their ego and hate reality. You have to blame yourself before you can learn game for your problems, a narcissist blames reality itself for all his problems.

        2. That’s a fair way of looking at it. However, I think it comes down to where the narcissism came from. IF the self-absorption came from a lack of success socially, then yes, game definitely would have helped. It seems to me that it’s believable that Eliot grew up in a situation where he was always the “red-headed stepchild”, and his parents didn’t take enough time to monitor his social progress in such an environment. It’s possible his parents simply encouraged this feeling, knowingly or not. An environment where your parents are not taking the time to consider how you feel will naturally force you to overcompensate and put your feelings above everything, even truth. From there it’s only a few mentally warping experiences away from full-blown-narcissism.
          As Stefan so often points out, mental illness does not simply pop into existence in a vacuum. It comes from poor parenting, period. Game is a major aspect of parenting that all fathers should be passing onto their sons (and in some ways their daughters too).

        3. Doubt Eliot was a narcissist. Narcissists typically are very confident, even overconfident. This is also the reason many women swoon over them. This kid is problably the most insecure boy i have ever seen.

        4. I have to agree. It’s extremely hard to get men out of the feminine imperative mindset. I imagine it would be ten times harder for someone who’s mentally ill.
          He probably wouldn’t have had the patience for it.

    2. Game was not for him. He was a very ill young man. His fate was never ever going to result in a good place

  21. The best take on this ugly incident, by far. While everyone got overly emotional at the goading, trolling tactics of the underhanded MSM, the author manages to mix ironclad logic with a cheeky tone, as well as twisting the knife into PUAHate.
    Good job, Tuth. This article may not go viral, but we needed something that made sense.

  22. I just did a google search on Elliot Rodger and unfortunately I didn’t get to one of ROK’s articles on him until page 10. It appears that these journalists will control the narrative.

    1. The bad news is we stand no chance in changing the course of the narrative on this tragedy. The good news is that we are getting through. It will take time, but we’ll make a difference.

  23. Great article, Tuth. The conflation of these feminists’ knowing intellectual dishonesty with GWB’s war on terror and the ‘constantly elevated threat level’ is actually an accurate one.
    Also – great invocation of Gwen Ifill’s ‘Missing White Women Syndrome’ – and here’s the thing, you defeat enemies by dividing and conquering. Bell Hooks notwithstanding, there is ripe opportunity to drive the wedge of pre-existing female-hate between feminist women of color and white feminists. Let them eat themselves alive.

  24. I very much agree with the title of Tuthmosis’ article. The amount of rubbish I have heard said about these murders is incredible, one journalist is currently blaming Seth Rogan for this tragedy and Michael Moore has decided to spout some rubbish about guns being the symbol of America.

  25. Elliot had a self hating racist asian mother who believed only white men were good enough to donate sperm to her. Unfortunately for her Elliot didn’t come out white since this was biologically impossible. This type of asian women numbers in the millions and they fuck up their kids so bad with this internalized racism. I feel sorry for these kids.

    1. Even worse, both her and her morrocan stepmother thought asian men were shit so they brole him down even more

    1. You missed the absolute worst piece of “journalism “<strike) I’ve ever seen on any subject,</strike) Jessica Valenti…

  26. It seems that every time that something tragic happens with a violent event, the media feels the need to find an excuse or a scapegoat to blame instead of focusing on the truth and the real problem at hand. Did the Colombine murders happen because the 2 boys listened to heavy metal music and played video games? No. The people who come out blaming things are opportunists who take a tragedy and turn it into their own personal agenda. Was gun control the solution to prevent another school shooting after Colombine? No. Others have happened afterwards and unfortunately others may happen in the future. Misdirection is not an effective way to solve problems or having an understanding of tragic events.

    1. Definitely doesn’t sound like anyone is looking for a solution, that’s for sure.
      Just another opportunity to push agendas.

  27. Eh, I don’t like the turn this has taken. Elliot had a shitload of neurological and emotional problems, but a sexually receptive girlfriend in his life would have taken the edge off of them and helped to socialize him better. The scientific research supports this intuition.
    It strikes me how progressives want to apply individualistic thinking when it comes to the problems of male virgins (MV’s). They disavow blaming the individual for his economic failures and instead attribute poverty outcomes to mysterious social factors like “racism,” “sexism” and “inequality,” even though we can see how people sabotage their own lives by making stupid choices early on. But then progressives turn around to ridicule struggling MV’s as “creeps,” “misogynists” and “losers,” and they attribute MV’s situation to their own shortcomings. Logically you’d think they would show more empathy towards MV’s and advocate government programs to help them. Why do they draw a distinction between economic inadequacy and sexual inadequacy as objects of their solicitude?

    1. I don’t think this guy had any real problems. 22 and a virgin? A little embarrassing but not a big deal. For me, the real issue is mental health. If he did get a girlfriend he would probably end up strangling her. I have not heard the details but many of the drugs given to people like Rodgers have side-effects such as suicidal thoughts, unexplained aggression, paranoia, inability to think rationally. And less frequent, homicidal behavior.

  28. White girls really have the best of both worlds. They simultaneous get to benefit from white privilege while taking none of the blame (only white males are oppressors, white females are just poor oppressed and victimized women) while also playing the female victim card to the absolute maximum.

      1. There is no denying the privilege of white women, but being a class of people held up before the world as sex symbols (from Marilyn Monroe on down) is a two-edged sword. No class of people is subjected to the level of sexual aggression that white women are. Regardless of how an individual white woman chooses to live her life, she is perceived as slutty by much of the world: Arabs, Africans, Indians, Hispanics, etc. A white woman walking down the street in many such countries is like bait: a walking piece of meet, to be leered at and propositioned, even assaulted. American female tourists don’t even realize that blonde hair and light skin is considered to be a sexual neon sign of invitation, whether it actually is or not. Men of all races feel entitled to white women, and if they feel rejected, it often leads to violent hated (“fuck fat blonde sluts! give me an Asian girl any day,” or worse) etc. Violence in interracial couples is extreme: when a minority man is rejected by his white girlfriend, there are countless examples of these men enacting murderous rage, killing, raping, dismembering, acid attacks, etc. And yet these stories are buried in the media, because when it comes to interracial violence against women, it is the minority MEN who are the protected class. As for any women, with great sexual power comes even greater sexual vulnerability.

        1. ” Men of all races feel entitled to white women, and if they feel rejected, it often leads to violent hated (“fuck fat blonde sluts! give me an Asian girl any day,” or worse) etc.”
          Where do you guys get this stuff?
          This sounds an awful lot like projection. Not to mention the fact that you have no claim to anything you don’t already own, that includes women.
          I’ve never raped or kidnapped a woman to have sex. 100% of the time it was a mutual exchange. If you have a problem with whom white women choose to have sex, you need to take it up with them.
          Thing is, your attitude will dry up any woman’s snatch, especially white women.

        2. Small dick envy of black men is written all over your rant. I mean look much time you took to write that shit? Yea small dick envy for sure white boy. Oh well going to bang a barbie white tomm. I will be smiling thinking how jealous you are when I bust a nut on her smooth white face 😉

        3. Did you just admit you will be fantasizing about tiny white penises during your sexual escapades? Hahaha!

        4. I doubt they are protected in fact I say they are sensationalized that she had this crazy swarthy lover. Like the Tsarniov guy, or the movie “not without my daughter”{true story in Iran) or the uk asian sex grooming of white girls which got way more attention then white on white sex grooming(or crime for that matter) or the “first white victim of honor killing in uk” for movin in on pakistani boy(it was the females that did it too…very insecure of white women)
          Or those instances of moroccan men “stealing” the white mothers kids and taking them to his motherland. Or the blonde reporter that NEARLY got raped got more attention then the ones that actually got raped
          Or the blonde swiss women that got raped in india became big news while the indian one had to die brutally to get major attention. Even in friggin India the white woman gets more attention.
          or the acid attack on 2 pretty british women in africa(forget which country)
          There are numerous other ones but you get the point. The again they are mostly middle eastern so it must have something to do with that.
          Or that they were “foreign” and not say african or latin american. But as I see it and watching the comments of those posts, they generate the most attention and responses.
          But entitled to sex We just see them as the easiest girls to bed because they dont care about sex and in fact “wanna have fun” before marriage(unless she wants to be a career woman.
          Plus deflowering a local girl comes with remorse cause she wont get married and have kids…kinda stuck.
          White girls wanna do it so no remorse.

        5. Please do! your mulatto daughter will be cannon fodder for my jizz in 17 years. No dad and a broke white mother. Too easy!

        6. I love fucking dark skinned black bitches with my tiny white cock. Then I come on her feet and lick it off and rub it in my eyes. I use her pussy juice as a lube to jerk off. I jerk off in to her soup stock. More protein, bitch!

        7. Andrological facts vs Black fairy tales.
          The average black man is with longer flaccid dick (non-erected) than the white man
          The average european male is with longer erect dick than the negroid afroamerican.
          That’s it. Black Powerless brother

        8. White men have bigger dicks? Bhaw ha ha ha you are as delusional as elliot rodgers. Look white guys your likeness to this crazy fool is showing w/ some you very carefully identifying w/ him. Again white men bigger was a good laugh. I’m done. Have at it will I have this blond bitch choking on my dick tonight….

        9. Please take all the Shaniques you can handle PLEASE DO! I do not give a fuck! I want you you fuck them perhaps they can get the state on you 7 destroy you the same way they try to do to us. I dont even date them so you are doing us a favor! You thought that was an insult? lol

        10. Present your evidence that supports your assertion. Where are your statistics?

        11. Elliot is 50% Asian and 50% White…he also suffered from mental illness…good try, though.

        12. There’s not really much difference worldwide between erect penises because a penis is an organ, same with vagina.Height and weight are irrelevant and a 7′ guy can screw a 5′ woman as easily as a 6′ woman.Negroes have smaller erect cocks in general. I’ve known a few females at colleges over the years who had sex with Negro Africans and asked them about certain things. According to them the black cocks are about average or smaller and negroes are terrible for sex. In fact, none of these girls ever went back after their 1 time experiment with a negro African. One Dutch girl said that the negro was making these jungle noises during sex. None of them even went back for seconds.

        13. Maybe the Dutch girl was into bestiality and accustomed to having sex with wild animals in the jungle. Else how would she know that the Negro was making jungle noises while fucking her? Am sure she would produce Sabretooth and Wolverine from her womb some day, if she continues in bestiality.
          If she ever was mounted by a tapir, a wild ass, a wolf or an elephant, she would never be happy with a human dick. More proof that white women are the worst creatures on this planet, they don’t leave even leave animals when it comes to having sex.

        14. “Regardless of how an individual white woman chooses to live her life, she is perceived as slutty by much of the world:”
          That’s because, by comparison, they are.
          “a walking piece of meet”
          Pieces of “meet” don’t have sex with men. Women do.

        15. Yea keep telling yourself that. Whatever you need to sleep at night. I love how you bring up 1 dutch bitch yt the barbie bitch I was fucking last night straight out told me whit boys have smaller dicks after I busted on her face…

        16. Again google “ALL NON AFRICANS ARE PART NEANdERTHAL” YOUR THE MONKEYS. No way around genetics so make all the nigger comments you want. You whites can not escape this fact…

        17. White women are not desirable in Japan, China, Taiwan, or South Korea. The men in these countries pathologically avoid white women and the white guys go for Asian women because there are a lot more of them. I live in Taiwan, all the white women I know are single and never have boyfriends.

        18. Ah yes, whites are the monkeys. Funny how Africans consistently score 1 standard deviation lower than whites on IQ tests. Look around you. Your car, TV, computer, electricity, running water, refrigerator, canned foods, etc. etc. etc. were all developed by white people, yet WE are the monkeys. We might be monkeys, but you’re a parasite living in OUR world. We built this world. You only live in it because we allow you to. Every civilization on Earth developed impressive technology, even the native Americans who were isolated and didn’t have the wheel, EXCEPT for Africans. When European kings were building incredible works of art and engineering, like Versailles, the kings of Africa were living in mud and grass huts. Yet, us whites are the monkeys. Keep telling yourself that. I’d take being a white man with an average sized dick, then a black guy ANY DAY. Any day. Hell, I’d take a 1″ penis before I’d want to be black. You people top the charts on domestic abuse, STD, AIDS, incarceration, life expectancy, child molestation, and single mother statistics. Learn to respect the white man, lest you wear out your welcome in our world.

        19. Your comment can not change genetics. Did you think a long drawn out response that obviously bothered you when/if you googled it. Bottom line YOU have neanderthal blood.. No IQ test based on european standards can change that. You think you invented everything which is one of your flaws. Over confident of yourselves when your birth rates are now in the NEGATIVES! You boys at storm front even admit this. So does you boy David Duke. For every one of you born one of you dies. You do understand there is no coming back from that. Look it up. Enjoy reading about your rise in Melanoma rates. Every month I am meeting one or hearing about one you having it while the Earth is getting hotter. You really think you are in a better position in the long run while world watches your economic system crumble? Ok….

        20. Muh dik niglet. Andrological fact, the average white european male is with longer (erect) dick than the average african american men… as for african men. Thoose poor monkeys, in just one country there you have sizes similar to european men. Just one western african country.
          But truth to be told, blacks indeed have longer (flaccid) dicks than any race of men. Useless, but still…
          Black Powerless!
          Only 2-3% of white women are practicing IR. Just 2-3% despite the disinformation (coming from frustrated white men and niggers with pathologicaly high self-esteem).
          But Nigger men 100% chase after white women. 100%
          There is an open gender war within the black community. And i support black women who are ready to hurt black men.

        21. This comment from a black commentator on your article sums up what I was going to tell you. “It’s amazing how now Neanderthal is intelligent considering the only thing that has changed is that the genetic evidence that Neanderthal DNA is present is certain modern populations.” Look understand something. You can not get around the fact that you are part sub human. No matter what you say. The neanderthal is fucking inferior. They died out w/ the exception of the ones who mixed w/ pure humans which are proven to be Africans. Your opinion & article trying to save face for a embarrassing discovery does not negate this fact.

        22. You’re calling me inferior? Africans couldn’t even manage enough brain cells to rub together to invent the wheel. They couldn’t figure out “circle roll.” Pathetic.

        1. Ha. Riiiight…. following that same logic misogyny, which teaches men to hate women, is turning men homosexual.

    1. No one, including white men, benefit from wallowing in victimhood, but it is worth pointing out that not only do American white women bear the brunt of racism in terms of American black men considering themselves sexually entitled to white women as part of reparations, they also face the legitimate broken social contract between the sexes and resulting tension between genders that is far more complex and ingrained than racism between men of different colors ever will be. In terms of career, a black man can work any job without fear; while a white woman’s options are the most limited by the potential for sexual harassment, racism (from minority women in particular), or both.

      1. Whether what you say is true or not, nobody is saying white women have no problems. The point is that their problems are relatively small in comparison to that of other groups, and are listened to. They have tremendous social-economic support. Support most demographics don’t have or in a far lesser degree.

      2. Wtf? Where are all these black men who feel entitled to white women?
        White women have limited career options because of a fear of sexual harassment from black people? What country do you live in?
        You’ve got to be fucking insane. Are you so deprived of pussy that you have to dream up this alternate reality do reconcile your failures?
        You can’t touch white women in developed countries without having all hell unleashed upon you.

        1. Even white nationalists reading this thread know this guy’s comment is bullshit. White women and Jews are the most privileged and protected classes of people in the United States.

      3. As a blackman who grew up in a predominately white neighborhood (and still live in one) I can say 100% you are delusional. From middle school into my adult life I have been pursued by white girls/women. White women feel entitled to black men. I have had white women offer me the nastiest dirtiest no-strings-attached sexual experiences since I was 13 years old. It still happens to this day whether it’s urban hipsters, suburban MILFs, or career women in the very conservative field I work in.
        I have never really had to work at learning game when it came to white women. I have always been very laid back. With the combo I bring to the table the range of white chick I get who will give it up with very little effort from me is 7’s and 8’s. The real truth is white women think they own the blackman’s penis and get very offended if they throw themselves at you and you shoot them down. I’ve had this happen more times than I can count.
        Where I have had to learn game is with approaching black women and especially asian women. I love a nice sweet asian woman, but in the PacNorthwest white dudes have a near monopoly on the type of asian woman I like. But back to my point. Bottom line is white women think they are entitled to the blackmans’ collective penis.

        1. It’s true, if it can be said that Asian women feel entitled to white men then white women feel entitled to certain black men to the consternation of black women, whom no one really collectively wants.

        2. white women feel entitled to all 50 shades of dick. They know that they like fair skinned girls. Whether hes black,arab,indian,latino or asian. They just see themselves as some sorta goddess to them. They only time they get threatened or insecure or rattled on her perch is from asian women…her ultimate competition.

        3. I would say Latin women of the South American variety are quickly getting ready to assume that mantle. The biggest threat the international white woman has is from Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela and Colombia bar none.

        4. Those are trash white females. Your 8 on here wouldn’t even qualify as a 2 or 3 in my world.These low quality white girls are the ones you see with negroes and mixed breed kids.
          And as you admit, you cannot get quality Far Eastern girls. So stop the negro jive talk fellah.

        5. American white women feel they are entitled to whoever, not just black guys. Most American white women will fuck anything, except maybe asian men.

        6. Most American white women will not fuck anything. That’s an internet myth. Most white women have only fucked white men, and that’s in mixed areas. In homogenous areas, this is even more true.
          Many will fuck across lines, but most won’t. Most have clear lines, even when they do cross some, and preferences that they will reveal if you speak with them.
          The myth comes about through the socially unique internet community space wherein you have guys of different races talking in numbers that don’t happen in the world. If a black guy has fucked a few white girls, he gets a skewed perspective because of the selection process that has brought DTF girls to him. He knows more DTF girls because the social process creates a heavily loaded social circle. However, that circle doesn’t reflect the population. Neither do circles overpopulated by girls of certain groups, like: alcoholics, drug addicts, poor girls, spoiled rich girls, etc.
          The internet is not white social reality, and neither is the opinion of outsiders.

        7. Some white women. Your experience is loaded toward women attracted to you. Your statistical opinion would differ if you were more central to white society. Unless you are white with a white family (and can intimately observe white sisters with white friends for instance), you’re experience is limited toward your work circle and those who choose to hang out with you (biasing your experience). Your experience would be more accurate, population wise, if your social experience often included intimate knowledge of people who you don’t choose and who don’t choose you (like family and the extended social circle from that family). Even though I’ve fucked 20 black girls, for instance, it would obviously sound stupid to say that Black women feel entitled to white men. It would sound much smarter to say that the black women who have found me desirable seemed to feel entitled to me. Just helping your presentation, son.
          Muh Dik!

      4. “black men considering themselves sexually entitled to white women as part of reparations” Bwah ha ha ha I have NEVER heard another black man say this! Your a fucking idiot my genetic neanderthal friend….

        1. Lol, why the fuck would they say it to each other? Nice argument. “Yo, Leeroy, I sincerely believe that we have a moral right to these White wimminz. Dey owes us at least that much.” Fucking hilarious. It is a mentality, obviously, which is meant by this, and anyone possessing knowledge of how history has been weaponized by jews against Whites as well as eyes and ears and common sense psychological insight is aware that this phenomenon is very real.
          Eldridge Cleaver, early leader of the Black Panther Party :
          “”[W]hen I considered myself ready enough, I crossed the tracks and sought out white prey. I did this consciously, deliberately, willfully, methodically — though looking back I see that I was in a frantic, wild and completely abandoned frame of mind. Rape was an insurrectionary act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man’s law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women…I felt I was getting revenge. From the site of the act of rape, consternation spread outwardly in concentric circles. I wanted to send waves of consternation throughout the white race.”

        2. So your claiming black men have this unspoken conspiracy to rape white women for reparations and a quote by Clever is your indisputable proof of this? Seriously you have mental/emotional issues. Most of You white nationalist have this problem. Long drawn out emotional rants with shaky EVIDENCE . One quote proves this? Yea ok have a nice life white Neanderthal

      5. But what about dem White Privilieges? Da White mahn owes me, slavery and all dat, gibsmedat! Muh dik! Muh dik!

    2. They get a free market when it benefits them (sexual market) and they insist on socialism when it benefits them (men pay the most taxes and women receive more benefits on the whole). Best of all possible worlds. And modern white women think that they are oppressed. LMFAO hahaha

      1. A feminist would not answer these irrefutable points, she would simply just end the discussion by calling you a misogynist.

        1. Better a misogynist and happy than a feminist and miserable.
          If you hold your frame and play your cards right you might be able to bang her if you wanted. Or you can do what I like to do:
          Feminist: You are a misogynistic pig.
          Me: So what?
          This usually leaves women speechless as women are used to men denying that they are misogynists.

        2. I usually go, ‘yep, and the mirror to your misandry’ and they tend to splutter unintelligibly for a bit.

        3. That’s the game across the liberal spectrum, without exception.
          Step one: vilify a word
          Step two: engage in bad, politically dishonest behavior usually focused on rent seeking.
          Step three: slander and defame anyone who protests against your behavior with the bad word.
          Step four: repeat for all targets.
          ** controlling the significant public discourse, through ownership of and dominant employment within all major media, helps a ton.

      2. I believe men pay more taxes because, contrary to popular belief amongst your misinformed circle, they still make more money and have better positions in the workplace as an overall group. Women receive more in benefits because even the children of poor, crappy, single parent families need some kind of chance at a fair life.

        1. So I guess that means all feminists are idiots because all they do is blame others. And by others I mean men.

        2. “Women receive more in benefits because even the children of poor, crappy, single parent families need some kind of chance at a fair life.”
          No they don’t actually. It’s women using children as meat shields to get money that they aren’t entitled to. You could argue it’s harsh to “punish” children for the sluttitude of their mothers, but if you turn off the money spigot for single moms, they will sop becoming single moms. Just look at the illegitimacy rates before single mothers were subsidized and after.
          Also, nice how you pointed out that men “still” (lol) make more money and have better positions than women, as if that was some sort of rebuttal or refutation to his argument.
          “Men make more money, so OF COURSE his money is rightfully mine.”
          We should make women fuck omega males for the same reasons.

        3. Your handle is ironic, because your circle seems to be the one in the professional blame business. Creating victims is lucrative, indeed.
          And women lose the company more money, contrary to popular belief in your misinformed circle, through frequent maternity drop-outs after lots of money is invested in them. The lower pay is a hedge against the greater drop-out rate. Training new people often costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, costs more in top positions, and needs to be done much less often in male dominated workplaces.
          The last time I checked, men are parents too and therefore should receive the same benefits. Last, “poor, crappy” families” shouldn’t have kids. It’s not society’s responsibility to pay for irresponsible people who can’t control their procreation within the limits of their resources. I say that coming from a disadvantaged, poor family, and as someone who would love to have kids but who doesn’t because I cannot yet afford them. I’ve spent my young years working my way out and eschewing my learned prole habits so that my kids can have a better start. See how impulse control works? Rewarding dysfunction is not a good social policy.

        4. > I believe men pay more taxes because, contrary to popular belief amongst your misinformed circle, they still make more money and have better positions in the workplace as an overall group.
          They are more useful to others, yes. How is that contrary to popular belief around here?
          > Women receive more in benefits because even the children of poor, crappy, single parent families need some kind of chance at a fair life.
          Those children also need role models, which are obviously aren’t to be found in those “poor, crappy, single parent families”, right? See how that works?

    3. So true, feminists are some of the most hateful groups going, so they require another group to project their hate and guilt onto in order to absolve themselves of all their hate and guilt. It’s denial that they can hate too- en masse.

      1. You know you you think females who “hate” men are awful and unattractive? Women (without daddy-abandoment issues) find that same hateful attitude in men repulsive. I truly don’t understand how guys who hate hateful women conclude that for males to be more attractive they should be hateful too. Literally nobody of emotional worth likes that shit.

        1. i happen to LOVE women….is it ok to disagree with some of them without being called a misogynist??
          feminism has had like 60 years of hate……fermented in an intellectual vacuum and largely unchecked by society and academia cos–well– that’d be misogyny…
          “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.”
          – Dr. Sally Miller Gearhart, in her article “The Future – If There Is One – Is Female,”
          “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” — Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.
          “I haven’t the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero- sexual men could fulfill, since they are the very embodiment of reactionary- vested-interest-power. But then, I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. In addition to doing the shitwork that women have been doing for generations, possibly not exist? No, I really don’t mean that. Yes, I really do.” — Robin Morgan
          “We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.” — Robin Morgan
          “I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”
          — Robin Morgan
          From her “The Demon Lover” (NY: Norton & Co., 1989 Morgan doesn’t hide her bigotry):
          * p. 138-9: The phallic malady is epidemic and systemic… each individual male in the patriarchy is aware of his relative power in the scheme of things…. He knows that his actions are supported by the twin pillars of the State of man – the brotherhood ritual of political exigency and the brotherhood ritual of a sexual thrill in dominance. As a devotee of Thanatos, he is one with the practitioner of sado-masochistic “play” between “consenting adults,” as he is one with the rapist.
          * p. 224: My white skin disgusts me. My passport disgusts me. They are the marks of an insufferable privilege bought at the price of others’ agony.
          * p. 229: Sex to this point in my life has been trivial, at best a gesture of tenderness, at worst a chore. I couldn’t understand the furor about it.
          * p. 316: Did she die of the disease called “family” or the disease called “rehabilitation”, of poverty or drugs or pornography, of economics or sexual slavery or a broken body?
          “The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.” — Linda Gordon
          “And let’s put one lie to rest for all time: the lie that men are oppressed, too, by sexism–the lie that there can be such a thing as ‘men’s liberation groups.’ Oppression is something that one group of people commits against another group, specifically because of a ‘threatening’ characteristic shared by the latter group–skin, color, sex or age, etc. The oppressors are indeed ****ED UP by being masters, but those masters are not OPPRESSED. Any master has the alternative of divesting himself of sexism or racism–the oppressed have no alternative–for they have no power but to fight. In the long run, Women’s Liberation will of course free men–but in the short run it’s going to cost men a lot of privilege, which no one gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is NOT the fault of women–kill your fathers, not your mothers”.
          — Robin Morgan
          “To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.”
          — Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto
          “Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex.”
          — Valerie Solana, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)
          “The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness…can be trained to do most things.”
          — Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas)
          “Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage.” — Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW
          “I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “In my own life, I don’t have intercourse. That is my choice.” — Andrea Dworkin
          Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “To be rapeable, a position that is social, not biological, defines what a woman is.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “Q: People think you are very hostile to men.
          A: I am.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “Men use the night to erase us.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “The annihilation of a woman’s personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality.” — Andrea Dworkin
          “Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives.”
          — Andrea Dworkin
          “Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it ‘Her’. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination.”
          — Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women
          “On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom.”
          — Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women.
          “The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist” — Ti-Grace Atkinson
          “Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice.” — Ti-Grace Atkinson
          “Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6
          “When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression.” — Sheila Jeffrys
          “Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated.” — Catherine MacKinnon
          “All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman.” — Catherine MacKinnon
          “You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs.”
          — Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.)
          “In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.”
          — Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women’s Studies.
          “The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” — Sharon Stone; Actress
          “Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo.”
          — Jodie Foster; Actress – as quoted in The New York Times Magazine.
          “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future – If There Is One – Is Female.
          “And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference.”
          — Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime.
          “If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males.” –Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001.
          “If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them.” – David Angier
          “Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.” – Catherine Comins
          “As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE.”
          — Marilyn French (her emphasis)
          My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter.”
          — Marilyn French; The Woman’s Room.
          “All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women… All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men’s prey.”
          — Marilyn French
          “All men are rapists and that’s all they are”
          — Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore’s Presidential Campaign.)
          “The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations…obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign.”
          — Marilyn French
          “I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.”
          — Barbara Jordan; Former Congresswoman.
          “Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.”
          — Germaine Greer.
          “Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence.”
          — Judith Levine; Authoress
          “Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ‘reach WITHIN women to ****/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ‘even if she does not feel forced.’
          — Judith Levine, (explicating comment profiling prevailing misandry.)
          “I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, ‘hate in love,’ for the men women share their lives with–husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers.”
          — Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love
          “There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of ‘sex acts’…includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder.”
          — Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document, (A southern Women’s Writing Collective: Women Against Sex.)
          “All men are good for is ****ing, and running over with a truck”.
          Statement made by A University of Maine Feminist Administrator, quoted by Richard Dinsmore, who brought a successful civil suit against the University in the amount of $600,000. Richard had protested the quote; was dismissed thereafter on the grounds of harassment; and responded by bringing suit against the University. 1995 settlement.
          ((Delaney Nickerson, of the American Coalition for ABUSE AWARENESS, refers to the False Memory Syndrome Foundation as “The ****ing Molesters Society”. (Miami Herald, April 3, 1995) The ACAA is a lobbying group, which includes Ellen Bass (co-author of THE COURAGE TO HEAL), and Rene Frederickson, leading feministpsychotherapist and strong proponent of repressed memory theory.))
          ((At the STONE ANGELS satanic ritual abuse conference in Thunder Bay in February, 1995, the following was contained in the handouts at a conference supported financially by the Ontario Government: FMS stands for: FULL OF MOSTLY SHIT; FOR MORE SADISM; FELONS, MURDERERS, SCUMBALLS; FREQUENT MOLESTERS SOCIETY.))
          “Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do.”
          — Popular Feminist Graffiti
          “I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father’s concubine… What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What’s more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal.”.
          — Sylvia Fraser; Journalist
          “We are taught, encouraged, moulded by and lulled into accepting a range of false notions about the family. As a source of some of our most profound experiences, it continues to be such an integral part of our emotional lives that it appears beyond criticism. Yet hiding from the truth of family life leaves women and children vulnerable.”
          — Canadian Panel on Violence Against Women.
          Catharine MacKinnon ( ) maintains that “the private is a sphere of battery, marital rape and women’s exploited labor.” In this way, privacy and family are reduced to nothing more than aspects of the master plan, which is male domination. Democratic freedoms and the need to keep the state’s nose out of our personal affairs are rendered meaningless. The real reason our society cherishes privacy is because men have invented it as an excuse to conceal their criminality. If people still insist that the traditional family is about love and mutual aid–ideals which, admittedly, are sometimes betrayed–they’re “hiding from the truth.” The family isn’t a place where battery and marital rape sometimes happen but where little else apparently does. Sick men don’t simply molest their daughters, they operate in league with their wives to “breed” them for that purpose.
          — Donna Laframboise; The Princess at the Window; (in a critical explication of the Catharine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinhem et al tenets of misandric belief.)
          “If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal–a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feministstudents–I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment…of persuading students that women are oppressed”
          — Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women.
          “Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact.”
          Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood.
          Another posting on FEMISA: “Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men’s violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. Assaults on women and children are mostly perpetrated by men whom they are supposed to love and trust: fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, step-fathers.”
          Both quotes taken from Daphne Patai’s excellent critical work,Heterophobia
          “At Brandies I discovered Feminism. And I instantly became a convert… writing brilliant papers in my Myths of Patriarchy class, in which I likened my fate as a woman to other victims throughout the ages.”
          — Heather Hart 7
          Here are 10 reasons why we are concerned about feminism and the National Organization for Women.
          1. “The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist” (National NOW Times, January, 1988).
          2. “Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage” (feminist leader Sheila Cronan).
          3. In response to a question concerning China’s policy of compulsory abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, “I consider the Chinese government’s policy among the most intelligent in the world” (Gary Bauer, “Abetting Coercion in China,” The Washington Times, Oct. 10, 1989).
          4. “Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole…patriarch!” (Gloria Steinem, radical feminist leader, editor of MS magazine).
          5. “Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women…. We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men…. All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft” (from “The Declaration of Feminism,” November, 1971).
          6. “By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God.” (Gloria Steinem, editor of MS magazine).
          7. “Let’s forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace, and inspiration from real women…. Two thousand years of patriarchal rule under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the feminist ‘salvation’ of this world.” (Annie Laurie Gaylor, “Feminist Salvation,” The Humanist, p. 37, July/August 1988.
          8. “In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them” (Dr. Mary Jo Bane,feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College, and associate director of the school’s Center for Research on Woman).
          9. “Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession… The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn’t be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that.” (Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, The Daily Illini, April 25, 1981.
          10. “The most merciful thing a large family can to do one of its infant members is to kill it.” (Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in “Women and the New Race,” p. 67).
          “We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men.” — Elizabeth Cady Stanton
          From ‘A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:
          MALE:…represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants…the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.
          MAN:…an obsolete life form… an ordinary creature who needs to be watched…a contradictory baby-man…
          TESTOSTERONE POISONING: … ‘Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from “testosterone poisoning.”

        2. Yeah, those are terrible quotations and I don’t agree with them. I have a lot of respect for guys, as I think most women (at least in my circle) do. A lot of those women probably had a bad guy experience or were born wishing they were men (I think it’s genetic) and extrapolated unjustly. I just don’t think doing the same to women makes sense (which it sounds like maybe you aren’t doing, my apologies). A few loud angry bitches does not make us all man-hating lezzies. A lot of us have sons that we don’t intend to raise as whimpering little pansies, but we also don’t want them to have Taliban views of women either.

        3. i hear ya Sally and i dig. Violence begets more violence (as the saying goes)
          The manosphere is i think a perfectly natural reaction to the femosphere’s [not sure if that’s a word] unquestioned monopoly on gender for the last 60 years. I think it’s necessary, but you are right… If society is to progress, there will at some stage in the future have to be a meeting of both worlds. Meantime, we’re just a Jezebel for boys trying to make sense of this fu*ked up world.

        4. Well YOU STARTED IT. Yea women, you started to hate there is a backlash.

        5. Sally,
          No man here wants or promotes Taliban views of women. Otherwise, you would read straight up recommendations of adopting a secular version of the Taliban playbook. That’s not what the ‘manosphere’ promotes. The manosphere, in its different manifestations, is almost singularly a reaction to feminist extremism that has unfortunately become mainstream and the far left keeps moving center. Although, there are some literal animals in here who speak out of turn. The internet has democratized the ability for low IQ people to have an opinion, unfortunately. Even by 1950’s standards, you would find most men here pretty liberal if you scratched them. Although, most aren’t averse to a wholesale reversion 50’s era either as a better choice than what we have now. Again, it’s a reaction and not action.
          The problem is, Sally, the modern mainstream feminist movement is driven by the successors of the women who were above quoted. Even if your views are moderate, you lend support the the movement driven by extreme views that will (as you read above) never be placated. Should men be subject to constant revolution? When does it stop? Do you have the power to put on the brakes before things creep too far to the left? Does anyone have that power? Think hard about to what you lend your support.
          At least the 1950’s (a commonly used if not random reference time) at least represents a type of moderation. It represents a partnership whose ultimate goal was giving children a positive childhood and raising good, emotionally well equipped human beings. Feminists would have no partnership exist. They would have us be a world of lonesome individuals that have no hope of co-operating toward a democracy that serves the needs of society, needs which are best embodied in raising children. There is no democracy without social co-operation that starts in, and cannot exist in a greater sense without, the nuclear family. The feminist, and broader liberal, future is one of powerless individuals who cannot co-operate with one another enough to have any political power. The liberal future is one of political slavery and powerlessness to the benefit of more conservative and therefore socially cohesive groups. Women are the keystone in destroying social coherence and in destroying or reinforcing social power because no community can exist without them co-operating with males. Do you, maybe, now glimpse at how these politics greatly transcend individual or even female group interest? The feminist leaders understand this part of the game. Their financial backers understand this part of the game. Most internet feminists do not. It’s not their fault, but the social and political future will ultimately rise or fall with them.
          Now, knowing the average woman on the street, are you comfortable with their unwittingly having so much power? Their ignorance of the real issues is the dangerous part, not their womanhood. Emotional, superficial self-interest and the general lack of a will to break from the group often keeps them willfully ignorant. Only women can change this situation from the inside out. Traditional values and morals took millenia to develop, were developed for great social reasons, and have only taken a few decades to eradicate. Can you honestly say that their destruction is, without a doubt, progress and not social devolution? Remember, we started as vicious family-less individuals. The family was the progress. That progress led to community and greater civilization. Think about these things.

    4. White bitches are the worst cunts of them all, and the ones who have the least shelf life when it comes to looks.
      A sane man wouldn’t bother to procreate with these self-entitling bitches who think men owe them love and adoration because of the fact that they’re born white. They’re really the twins of Elliot Rodger when it comes to entitlement thinking.
      If men have to earn their masculinity and appeal, by self improvement – then so do women. A white bitch thinks her appeal lies in her white butt and white boobs, and nothing else – and thinks she can get away with that. Not to mention white bitches are the most used women when it comes to sex, they’re only good for sex practice as an overwhelming majority of them have the slut/whore mentality, and these bitches are not good for building a family. Only sane men will understand this and not pedestalize these worst wretched specimens of womankind. That’s why men today use white women only for sex, and nothing else, even white men are marrying non-white women.

      1. Not to mention white women are also the most cruel, devious, manipulate and insensitive among all women, especially when it comes to justice.
        More cases of injustice and torture against men have all been instigated by white women.

      2. As much as I hate to admit it, it’s pretty true. The vast majority of young white women today have no honor or shame. They’ll fuck anything and do all manners of unspeakable shit just because they think that they’re white ass and tits will be enough. More men are waking up and realizing the sham that they are and realizing that there are much better options available rather than your typical slutty white Ameircunt.

  29. I admit, this male rights thing is new to me, (I’m white and I’m a guy). I got curious about it, been checking out the sites and reading the comments posted to articles. Wow. I mean wow. As a group, groups, individuals, there is so much self pity, it’s staggering. There seems to be a general inability/unwillingness to take responsibility for anything that doesn’t go right in your lives and the amount of mental space/characters devoted to getting sex . . . . how old are you people? If these sites were populated by teenage boys it would be more understandable. You want sex? Don’t be a douchebag. If you meet a woman and hit it off you’ll have sex, if you don’t you won’t. You should be working on growing the f- up and stop blaming women, the media, liberals and all the other boogie men for your unhappiness. Man up and grow the fuck up. There are so many self identified “nice guys” in these posts. Dudes, you’re calling women dumb cunts and every other kind of shitty name here . . . you don’t think they can pick up that vibe when the meet you? You’re not really that nice. Take responsibility for you own happiness or lack of it. Grow up and you’ll have a better life, with or without women.

    1. Your comment is riddled with errors and also directly conflicts with the spirit of RoK and quite a few number of sites on the “manosphere.”
      Although I realize you’re not to be taken seriously, as clearly you are on “rant mode”, I’ll bite.
      “..There seems to be a general inability/unwillingness to take
      responsibility for anything that doesn’t go right in your lives and the
      amount of mental space/characters devoted to getting sex . . . . how
      old are you people?”
      Nope. False. One of the most prominent themes here and in other worthwhile sites and in books for men is this: Do NOT expect a free lunch, improve yourself, work to better yourself, not expect the world to hand it to you.
      “If you meet a woman and hit it off you’ll have sex, if you don’t you
      False, again. There is never a guarantee of anything, and sitting around or waiting for a random encounter is basically a strategy of “nothing.”
      Men have to pursue women (in most cases) as is expected, and this means have the appeal that women will find sexually/mentally stimulation along with the social skills and non-politically correct understanding of women in order to do so.
      “Man up and grow the fuck up.”
      Ah yes, shaming again. Nice. You are willing to come here and post a rant again the men on a site you clearly have not read sufficiently and have no understanding about.
      Unfortunately with “men” such as yourselves, personal acheivement, masculinity, and much more gets a slanderous, nonsensical name-calling.

      1. Forget it, his knowledge of the websites is like someone reading the blurb at the back of a book, and thinking he has digested all the material inside.

    2. Maybe you should try to understand why men are angry in the first place you shit for brains. Your sentence “Man up and grow the fuck up”?? Good god, those words will create more rage and anger than you can possibly imagine. I know men with weak personalities who will be absolutely destroyed by what you just wrote! Have you seen the Stefan Molyneux video below here? Do you not realise that so many men are brought up in the same kind of dysfunctional childhood as Elliot Rodger? Have you not developed any sense of compassion? You are just as evil as the shooter and the feminazis out there who simply condemn this incident as a form of misogyny.
      So many men I know have been badly abused by women either in the form of divorce rape, public nice guy shaming, parental abuse by their own mothers and other forms of insanities. Will all become mass murderers? Of course not! But they are filled with rage, depression and a sense of utter helplessness. And your answer is to “Man up”?!?! Fuck you!
      Society is crumbling all around us now. This shooting, which is one of so many in the country, is a symptom of the cancerous rot eating away at the bonds of society. You are accelerating the rot with your total short-sighted views on men. Do some serious soul searching before you place another comment here simply telling the male readers to “Man up” or some other fuck wit comment

      1. I’m sorry. I didn’t realize you tough Alpha guys were such delicate flowers. So tell me, what makes you all so special, so much more in need of special handling than the rest of us, so entitled to being treated like kings. How did you earn this king-ness? Can I be a King too? I”m white, I’m a guy, I’ve been through divorce, the custody crap, my childhood home life was as dysfunctional as the next guys, I’ve been shit on a few times in life by women (and done my share in return), and yet . . . . I’m not doing all the complaining, the fucking whining you guys seem to do. I’m not blaming anyone for my faults and shortcomings, and they are myriad. WHY DO YOU ALL DO SO MUCH OF THAT. All this Alpha BS is embarrassing. Gaming? Jesus Mary and Joseph. I’ll probably get fucking bomb threats for posting this.

        1. “I’m sorry. I didn’t realize you tough Alpha guys were such delicate flowers.”
          Yes. We are in reality Basement dwellers that can’t deal with the outside world. We are probably all 30 yo virgins too. And all we do is whine. Alas all those articles about self-improvement and bettering oneself is a sham. Actually they are just there for show. I mean we the almighty patriarchs has such tiny dicks that it is not funny.

  30. These wymyn journalists are scrambling to come up with something, anything, to fight back against the growing resentment towards them and their belief systems.
    A cursory glance online will show just how much disapproval and resentment there is. For example, Look at the comment section for any video on YouTube that has the word feminism in the title. The comments there make ROK look tame. The majority are anti-feminist and very strong in both their logic and ferocity.
    Feminism has been successful at destroying free speech in the media and higher education. They won victories by continually presenting one side of an argument.
    The Internet now has them running around like a chicken with its head cut off. They cannot stand the fact that their opposition has more support than they realized.

    1. Women hate logic, reason and rational arguments because they are incapable of logic and having an intelligent conversation (i.e. one that doesn’t have anything to do with shoes, celebrities and glamour). You can see examples of this everywhere, on and off the internet.
      It’s very entertaining to watch the bitter fury of womyn trying to fight back the changing tide.

    2. Yes, but these anti-feminists have already lost. That behavior only grows the division. Unless you get women back, you lose. Drawing a line in the sand, with women on the other side, is the wrong method. Play to win, not to feel better like the refuse with poor impulse control and a short time horizon.

  31. You see ROK you’d have a point…or a case to make…if Elliot didn’t leave.
    …a 140 page manifesto detailing his hatred for women and jealousy towards men who got women.
    My suggestion would be to lie low. Focus on positive articles for men…how to make men better. I wouldn’t continue to play with this massive manosphere skeleton.

    1. The whole point of Roosh’s original article was that if Elliot had learned how to improve himself and learned some game, resulting in more success with women and life, it *might* have made a difference. The manosphere has no blame for this, so it’s no manosphere skeleton at all. For sure no manosphere author taught him that the best way to pick up women is to go and stab them or shoot them. In fact he was clueless on how to be attractive to women, largely due to his psychiatric problems and upbringing. So he might have been beyond saving for all we know.
      However it’s still a legitimate argument to make that many frustrated men who end up doing something tragic might have been steered on a more productive route had someone introduced them to self improvement, seduction and red pill knowledge. The increased sense of self and confidence at the very least would be of great help. A common theme in many similar incidents is that the person in question feels a constant sense of frustration, alienation, rejection and impotence. Anything that can help reverse that is a potential life saver.

      1. I understand…but do you know how women operate? They are going to milk this. First with the #YesAllWomen…
        And now this tumblr.
        I want manosphere to be positive…and these articles are just adding fuel to the inferno. Positive articles about improving men are what MRA needs.

        1. I agree with your sentiment, and on how feminazis will shamelessly twist this to bolster their agenda. Hence why this article by Tuthmosis was necessary to show what shams they really are. Yes, positivity is needed by all means. But sometimes you can’t avoid fighting battles in a war that was trust upon you.

        2. We need to fight back yes. But it’s important to fight smart not with burly strength. The best commanders are ones who operate with strategy and intelligence.
          I just found this.

          This article (and the last) will further consolidate the ROK readership and MRA…and will further consolidate and add members to the feminist army.
          Just like women. If we become emotional we lose all our rationality.

        3. Until the next “hashtag” social justice warrior opportunity of the week comes along..
          Which we be in about 2 weeks.
          Peanut-brained females have very short attention spans.
          Unless of course they are discussing purses.

    2. Looks like you’re counting on people not reading it in order to play the Shame Game ™. He was bitter and angry about men, and specifies Asians, blacks and jocks as targets of his effeminate rage.
      You also neglect to mention his hatred of PUA (look it up, no, really) which makes this precisely NOT a manosphere skeleton.

    3. Idiot. The article points out that there is a difference between criticizing female behavior (red pill) and full-on anger-fueled hatred (puahate)
      The problem is that feminists are trying to lump these together into one thing.
      Feminists want any critics of their cause to be associated with Eliot Rodgers types. And they might have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for that meddling manosphere!
      Thank god we have people like Roosh and Tuthmosis who can so eloquently eviscerate the bullshit they spew and present the cold hard reality. The world is waking up slowly.

      1. PUA hate and Red Pill are not mutually exclusive. Yes they have differences, many, but there is some overlap.
        Calling women sluts is one common overlapping feature.

        1. Yes but the context is different.
          Red pill labels loose women as sluts. These are women that are good for bangs but not good long-term material. The red pill doesn’t say that we should “hate” sluts. Just that we should recognize them for their pros and their cons.
          Puahate labels all women who reject their kind as sluts. It is a term used hatefully to any sexually active woman who ignores them. It is said out of anger.
          Red pill is seeing the world for what it is and adjusting behavior accordingly to adapt to that world.
          Puahate is seeing the world for what it is and choosing to not participate in the world and look upon it with anger, jealousy, and hate.

        2. Can you explain this:
          Ladies be more approachable….stop being prudes!
          Ladies close your legs…stop being sluts!
          It just seems to me, women cannot win.

        3. Don’t be dense. Being approachable and slutting around are two different things.
          If girls want to slut around, that’s fine. Just don’t be surprised when men don’t want to bring you home to mom.

        4. “Red pill labels loose women as sluts.” I don’t know about this. From what I have come across while reading many of the articles on this site and especially the comments sections, there isn’t much distinction. Women as a whole tend to be lumped together here as illogical, treacherous leaches who don’t have anything important to contribute to the world except for their reproductive abilities. While it is true that the PUAhate and red pill sites don’t always overlap, there is a lot of common ground.
          How can you lump such a large group of people together this way? I sometimes chuckle at what I read here because I know a lot of great women who don’t fit into any of the stereotypes that are portrayed here. I’m happily married to one of the most logical, devoted, intelligent, and beautiful women out there and couldn’t be happier. I think many of you on here are severely limiting your happiness with such rigid and closed-minded opinions.
          I enjoy the articles on self improvement, but when they (and especially the comments) sink into woman bashing, it all sounds pretty bitter and pathetic to me.

        5. So when does a woman become a ‘slut’? How many partners/boyfriends must she have?
          Because it seems on this website Red Pill has grouped ALL women into the slut category.
          So you want women NOT to be prudes. Yet…stop being sluts?

        6. You’re the dense one. He didn’t say being approachable and being a slut were the same. He said Red Pill men say to women stop being PRUDES (Roosh even suggested women give it up to lonely less desirable men to prevent these tragedies)…and then when they do sleep with them they are SLUTS.
          Red Pill men are stupid. They whine when women are prudes. And whine when women are sluts.

        7. NAWALT.
          Yawnn, Females and Manginas – cut from the same cloth.
          Also bragging about their perfect friends, spouses, boyfriend and girlfriends.
          By the way?
          You left out the part about us all having small dicks and livin’ in Mom’s basement.
          You manginas and females really need to get some new material.

      1. Indeed. He hated anything and everything. The one thing he hated the most was, most problably, himself. Folks that hate themselves are the worst most dangerous of all. Those who care nothing about themselves can’t fundamentally care for others.

    1. Pithy observation, and we all know that the answer is most likely a resounding “yes”. If they aren’t they’re looking at LOLCat pictures and then squealing to each other “Oh mah gawd, look at this!” as they shove their phone screen in front of the faces of the other girls.

      1. See that all the times at work. The girls always have their phones out and ready for anything.

        1. My father was trying to surprise one of his sisters who had never seen him play in a band before. They’re in their late 50s.
          She arrived with her daughter and son. Sitting at a table was her group, me and my mother-in-law.
          The 3 women sat there the entire time taking pictures/selfies…
          Me and my male cousin were the only ones actually listening to the music. They. Didn’t. Give. A. Fuck.

    2. Probably. I noticed they all seem to have varying degrees of fat thighs. A herd of future hippos, otherwise known as the ‘typical American grrrrrl’. Lose weight, bitches.

  32. It’s important remember that Futrelle had a nice big logo’d link to PUAHate at the bottom of Manboobz dot com before his Hunt The Mammoth reboot.
    Just saying.

  33. NO NO NO. IT WAS 10 PEOPLE, the first 3 where men and they where stabbed not shot!

  34. The word “misogyny” is how ugly (and usually overweight), privileged white girls rationalize the fact that men are not interested in them.
    In their minds, the phrase is as follows: “If he wont fuck me, he is a misogynist.”

  35. You know what I see in the faces of all those assholes in the top other than Elliot Rodger? Smug individualistic narcissism and arrogance.

  36. A “redpill” website talking about white privilege. This is really no different from feminists talking about white male priviliege.
    Fuck off with ur divide and conquer bullshit, trying to turn white males against white females.

    1. We forgot feminists can use privilege as an argument, but can’t handle the topic being applied to themselves.
      What’s so bad about your reflection? Take a look in the mirror once in a while.
      “Your hypocrisy insults my intelligence.”

    2. Get real. My dad’s uncle got LYNCHED by the Ku Klux Klan at the beck and call of a white female in the 30s for a FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION. Never mind the fact even American WHITE men got LYNCHED too for the same accusation, alongside American black men who did at the same time period.
      Never mind the fact an extremely common fact that Anglo women manipulate their own men to the point cuckoldry is an especially common subject amongst traditional British ballads, Victorianism had Jack the Ripper, and Margaret Thatcher RUINED English men and their livelihoods.

      1. How do you know it was a false accusation? Seems like you are assuming every rape accusation to be false and every man to be innocent. Every rapist is someones uncle, father, brother, son, grandpa etcetera, being related to someone doesn’t exonerate them.

        1. “Every rapist is someones uncle, father, brother, son, grandpa etcetera, being related to someone doesn’t exonerate them.”
          Sounds like American SWF womanese of “ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS, BUT WOMEN ARE INCAPABLE OF RAPING MEN EMOTIONALLY, SEXUALLY, AND FINANCIALLY.” Oh, even better, “women cannot rape men, because they only have vaginas and vaginal penetration is sacred amongst Angles.” That’s like saying, “Mary Kay Letourneau is socially acceptable because she’s an American white female that committed RAPE on a 12-year old BOY STUDENT but ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS.”
          What, too pussy to show your real-life face? I even share this story in real life. You must be an American single white female feminist who cannot let go of her law- AND society-given privileges.
          “How do you know it was a false accusation?”
          It’s an extremely common scenario for the Ku Klux Klan to LYNCH ANYONE just to “protect their women” (made up threats or not) and that was the norm of the times, pre-1960s Civil Rights era. Besides, American laws of the time prohibited him from bringing him along a fellow Filipina and not to mention Anglo society puts their women in their pedestal because Anglo tradition of putting pussy in a premium.
          As for how my granduncle got LYNCHED for a FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION, if it’s a LYNCHING, then the norm of the time was any accusations that end in LYNCHINGS tend to be FALSE. There’s a reason why a lot of American black families had family members who got LYNCHED for such accusations, to the point another norm of the time was this euphemism “She’s trouble; be careful.” Let me translate that to common English: “She’s just increasing her LYNCH count and you might be next in line.” I have his death certificate and will give my granduncle the dignity of not giving away his public information like pamphlets that get thrown away.
          “Seems like you are assuming every rape accusation to be false and every man to be innocent.”
          That sounds like American single white female womanese for “ALL MEN ARE GUILTY OF RAPE, PENETRATION OR NO PENETRATION, SPERM OR NO SPERM.”
          I read about the Brian Banks case last year and the comment I scanned on Jezebel were equivalent to a pre-1950s LYNCH MOB; turned out the accuser herself was under the orders of her mother to accuse him of RAPE for the money.

          Drew Doughty of the Los Angeles Kings also received a FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION from his accuser, even when his teammates witnessed HER, rejecting him in front of the entire team.

          Go ahead, Gentry, you are just proving me you are the epitome of what is all wrong with Anglo masculinity: WHIPPED WHITE KNIGHT, which the Ku Klux Klan are!

    3. Most men in most cultures know women are treacherous fucking leeches by nature. You think Old Christianity put rules on women simply because they were trying to be “mean”? You think the Muslims put severe limitations on women because they are trying be “misogynists”? In nearly every culture men have come to grips with the duplicitous nature of women and have responded accordingly. What many white men have failed to grasp, since the Romantic Era, is that white women are no different in terms of being women than any other race of women. In fact, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche both called out European men for the pedestalizing they were doing, during that period in history. This same pedestalization is what led us here and what other races of women are desperately trying to accomplish in the existing patriarchies that remain around the globe. By all means, sleep with the average American white woman and go ahead and try to marry her, and I guarantee you will achieve the average results that many men are now suffering, you know… cuckoldry, divorce, alimony, child-support etc etc.

  37. You describe the issues as flaws but to the writers you singled out, these are features.

  38. They hopefully take a look at the article in order to clear up their mental fog, though likely they refuse to acknowledge any reason or logic coming out of the pen of a known “misogynist”. Excellent article!

  39. “They cynically ignore the fact that he killed twice as many men as he did their precious white girls.”
    Just as they ignore that when the terrorists kidnapped the Nigerian girls they murdered the boys by burning them alive.

    1. the news coverage of that event was atrociously lacking. It got virtually no coverage

      1. This is what happens on during weekend coverage. If it had happened today on a Tuesday things would be different.

        1. i’m not sure I believe that. The media simply wasn’t interested in it. It didn’t fit into the narrative they wish to tell.

      2. On the other hand, the media usually go on hand wringing fits about blonde, educated, elite girls whose disappearance is a local crime, not black girls whose kidnapping has political significance. But then that’s what it would take for the elite media to pay attention to black girls who aren’t protesting to get special privileges for females.

        1. Not so. This is only the local media that bother. By the time you get to nationals they tend to try to find white perps if they can. The carnage against whites in urban America is largely ignored. Gang rape (largely POC on white) ignored.
          check yourself.

        2. That’s true. They certainly don’t want any non-whites to have kidnapped the missing blondes, but they obsess over rich young educated blondes. They haven’t much lately because, maybe to their astonishment, they discovered people noticed their blonde obsession instead of blindly following it.

  40. The catch-all phrase “misogyny” has quickly turned into the
    internet-feminist’s version of the “War on Terror,” a never-ending
    conflict with an invisible enemy that can never be defeated and could be
    anywhere.” holy fuck . sometimes the writing on here is perfect.

  41. noticed a commenter on raw story trying to suggest that Elliot Rodger had hung out at ROK. They’re raking the shit and hoping it will stick

  42. OT, but Roosh, do you realize that the policy of banning anyone who responds to women here has the effect of censoring men while giving women the run of the place? Are the women even banned?

  43. You forget that in the eyes of the feminists “All men are evil rapists”.
    This is why ROK and other manosphere sites are being blamed for a nutjobs shooting spree. This is why there is no sympathy for the 4 dead men killed by the nutjob.

  44. Our enemies know these comments are a liability to the state they’re trying to set up. Every victim will be exploited as an attack against masculinity, patriarchy, white males, and the last vestiges of real Christianity. They will try to shame us and disenfranchise us, and I can only imagine if it weren’t for the first amendment that we’d all have nooses around our necks or bullets to the head at this point. If crazy left wing movements have taught us anything thing over the course of the last century is to never underestimate the depravity of the left.

    1. the left believes it has compassion in its heart. So long as that is a point of dogma it is capable of any evil, because the end with the left always justifies the means. I would once have scoffed at your statement. No longer

    2. The constitution of the former Soviet Union also had freedom of speech, but most people knew better and they knew what might happen to them if they did use it. We very well could be on the same path here in America.

        1. yes, probably. My comments are no doubt a threat to the security of the state and its mangina in chief threatbot to whom I have the honour of replying

        2. Exactly, you guys need to spread the love. You think you’re “entitled” to be monitored.

      1. I had to go to an FBI interview as part of a security clearance process.
        They confronted me about Uncle Elmer and some of the crazy shit he has posted.
        Turns out they were sympathetic to my views and were intrigued about my foreign wife, so I shared some spring rolls she had made.
        We had a lot of laffs over it. Those FBI guys are allrite.

        1. you know that actually makes me feel a bit better. If you know they’re watching its OK you can live with it. It used to be God watching, now its the state. Same difference I suppose

    1. Im a masculinists. I like Rape. RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE.
      There, should make your day..

      1. It did…it was one of the most retarded attempts at trolling yet this day. I’m sure you are giving your beardneck buddies at the latte bar high fives all over the place (well, you would be, if you could get your pudgy arm above the height of your manboobs.

        1. Don’t even try, sophisticated humor is something that baffles womenkind, much like logic. A bridge too far…

      1. FemStation 5.6 has your IP address.
        Estrogenic Peace Officers are standing by.

    my comment here got scrubbed and I got blocked. I did not even curse unless “mangina” is one. In a nutshell I said the women commenting and white knights won’t admit that men are more victims of violence than women, violence towards anybody is bad, men are conditioned to not hit and protect women but the other way around doesn’t happen, and violence from women to children gets ignored. Therefore I won’t take anything feminazis have to say seriously.
    Of course they can’t handle the truth. If what i said was so vile I would be called out, not deleted.

    1. So their excuse is that if women gave birth to men, therefore men should be subservient to women? Do they not realize that man came first and women came as a result of God using a man’s rib to create her (Genesis 2)?
      In other words, men today may be born of women, but it was woman who was created from man through God.

    2. “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
      PS. I purged many of my friends on facebook just this weekend and it felt good. I would recommend doing the same. Or just deleting it all together which is something I am thinking about doing.

      1. The ironic thing is I only got a Facebook in the first place to talk to some girl (pre Red Pill). Now I have to keep it, as it is an easy way to find out what I need to know about a woman I met before going forward- namely, if she’s nuts.

  46. “Irresponsible Journalists Are Using Elliot Rodger To Push A Privileged White-Girl Agenda”

  47. Mr. Roosh, someone raised an excellent point below. The women are not being banned and we are restricted from replying to them. Therefore it is MEN who are being censored while these cunts can go around commenting merrily.
    Please do something about it.

    1. I do feel the same. I think the rules against replying to female commenters should be relaxed. But the caveat is that some of us might resort to violent speech against these trolls which would only tarnish the image of our readers and this site. I think it would be better to ban the females from commenting, instead of banning males from replying to them.

      1. Once a male starts replying to female posters here it goes on and on and on – like a childish schoolyard tirade.
        No, do not respond to females. The Mods do ban them – they are like cockroaches – they are hard to stamp out.
        Dont feed them.

  48. Malignant narcissism and entitlement is at the root of the shooting and nutcase Rodgers. He was spoiled rotten by his liberal hollywood parents. Who the fuck buys their kid a BMW ?? He was coddled and spoiled and hence was unable to handle ANY adversity or hardship. So when things didn’t go his way ie could not get laid his solution was to KILL. This Rodgers felt that it was his birthright to be happy and fulfilled so when he wasn’t he was going to kill others to make them unhappy and even the score. You see it was all about HIM. This toxic narcissism is rampant in Hollywood/Cali/ and our fucked up western culture….

  49. Feminist logic: man hates PUA community, man kills people, feminists blame PUA community. Wtf? This would be like blaming the US every time the North Koreans do something crazy.
    Like my man Adam Schiff from Law and Order once said, “With a leap like that you should be in a Nike commercial.”
    Excellent articles by Roosh and Tut provide real intellectual analysis and solutions for guys like Eliot. There was even a thread over on the Red Pill identifying this guy Before the shootings. Maybe these state funded chattel should have monitored that post.

    1. “With a leap like that you should be in a Nike commercial.”
      I am going to have to use this one sometime soon when a woman says something ridiculous.

  50. As much as I hate those feminazis, I think Rosh is using elliot rodger as a way of revenge againts pua hate cuz they made fun of him. He is also using the killings to sell game. Thats even worst then the feminazis in my opinion.

  51. Feminist – Women are victims. Now give us privileges.
    Man – What? No.
    Feminist – Sexism, Patriarchy, Misogyny, Rape. Women are victims. Now give us privileges.
    Man – You should be ashamed, woman. Using victimhood to gain privileges and supremacy.
    Feminist – Misogynist! This is sexism. You must be a rapist too. Women are victims. Now give us privileges right now. Or else..
    Man – Ok, Ok, you crazy woman. You can have whatever you want.
    Feminist – That’s more like it. Now we want – Gender quotas for women, reverse discrimination against men, alimony, child support, affirmative action/positive discrimination against men, women empowerment, entitlements, VAWA, disparate impact, academic fraud, privileges for women, lenient prison sentences for women, impunity for women, rape shield laws, lower standards for women, academic bias for women, family court bias for women, divorce bias for women, duluth model, female glorification in TV shows and movies, male denigration in TV shows and movies and much more.
    As you can clearly see – Feminism is all about Equality.
    Remember – Women are victims.
    Man – Oh, of course. Women are the ‘”victims” all right. I think I am now getting the feminist game plan.

  52. Not at all on topic but I have to ask: Why is that when a woman has no significant other, works a regular job, and pays for her own shit she is a “STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN” but a man doing the exact same thing is a “PETER PAN SYNDROME LITTLE BOY THAT NEEDS TO MAN UP” – Thoughts?

    1. Men are to be used as a way to give resources to women. This is how the system works. A man marries a woman, has children (that might not be his), his wife get bored and divorces him taking half his assets, the kids, the car, and the house, leaving the man to owe years of child support and vagamony.
      Men are basically walking ATM’s, sperm donors, and dildos.
      When men refuse to play the game the women get pissed and try to shame them into playing. Why play the game when the deck is not stacked in your favor?
      Even if you do not get married you are still inadvertently paying out of your own pocket for the benefit of women through taxes, social security, and now, thanks to Herr Obama, supplementing their health benefits.

      1. Exactly. Seems the only way to opt out is to make a shit ton of money, put it in offshore accounts, and spend your time enjoying yourself and fucking hot,young, foreign bitches.

    2. Because men exist to service women. Without women men have no purpose. Men must transfer the fruits of their labor, comfort and happiness to women. If they refuse they are not “real men”. A “real man” in essence is much like the slave. Only the slave knows he’s a subjugated a “real man” doesn’t. And if he does know he convinces himself that his self deprecating behaviour is noble/knightly.

      1. Real men must also accept responsibility for kids that aren’t theirs, either as a result of tje woman cheating or a previous bad relationship.

      2. I guess that I am not a “real man” then. Oh well, I don’t care. I am going to live my life the way that I see fit and nothing anyone says will change my mind otherwise.

    3. The short answer to your valid question is that if a man deigns live a life not ultimately rooted in servitude to the feminine imperative and female social primacy, he is seen as a useless parasite.
      Yes, they have it backwards. Welcome to the new America.
      (If you haven’t checked out ‘The Rationale Male’ blog yet, have a look.)

    4. Cody motherfucking Stark, nice to see you back in the community bro. Yeah I get the later criticism all the time. Here’s what Peter Pan Syndrome translates to from Womanese into English: “Why aren’t there enough willing men to marry me and let me just cash out through divorce and child support?” “His job as a man is to give me money through marriage and why aren’t they falling for it even when I show my perky tits and ass in my whore’s uniform?” “Fuck it, you little boys need to man up!” “Man up and marry me!” Lmao. That’s what they mean in womanese.

      1. The real “manning up” is to refuse to play the game and not giving a single fuck what women and their mangina slaves say.

  53. you are, as a whole, an embarrassment to men. And yes, I’m a white, heterosexual man – probably “successful” by any of the retrograde metrics you seem to value – and you’re all a bunch of whiney, annoying, men. I can’t believe the world has to tolerate your bullshit at all and then, when one of you goes over the edge of the mountain of bullshit you’ve built for yourselves and starts killing people (yes, men were killed while his rage was at women) you get even MORE whiney and defensive. Pathetic each and every one and OBLIVIOUS to the potential of masculinity and manhood because you can’t see past your tiny, tiny lives toward any semblance of working toward improving the world. You just want to posses shit, shine that shit, and be celebrated for having the shiniest shit

    1. ” (yes, men were killed while his rage was at women)”
      Huh, please do explain. Your name is Sasha and you talk like a woman are you sure you’re a man?

      1. i love it. “Sasha” is short for Alexander, idiot. Always has been. I love how anything that challenges the hateful delusions you’ve convinced yourselves are “truth” falls into the category of “well he really can’t be a man.” People died because you spew this shit and pretend it’s real because you each suck at life and need to blame everything except your selves. Deal with it. Claim it. Like a man.

        1. “People died because you spew this shit”
          That’s desperate. Demonstrate it?

        2. No man tells another man to “man up” : “Claim it like a man”.
          You’re a female troll. Or a mangina confused about his own masculinity, Only these two types as men to “man up”
          Game over, troll.

        3. “OMG I so totally forgot” I was talking with children and should reach back to high school in order to communicate effectively!!! I didn’t say “man up.” I said, deal with the fact that you’re wrong. You see yourselves as superior humans, while the rest of us see you like this:

        4. “desperate” is clinging to the idea that you’re superior at anything other than douchebaggery, because you’ve found a little internet community that agrees with your tiny minds. Consider it demonstrated. “Troll logic”

        5. i can’t imagine anything more convincing to you than a wedgie, so just remember the last one you got, and appy

        6. it seems I am in the presence of true intellect.
          you do you know you’re a slave. You will return whence you came, and report back on your wild adventures in a hostile land of savages, who you bravely battled with nothing but a withered stump in your hand. And for that, and for the exaggerated reports of savagery and neanderthalism that you encountered, you will get mild approval from a clutch of feminists and social justice warriors. You will never touch their hair, or smell their perfume, let alone frott against their inner thighs.
          And you’ll leave quite contented and happy.
          You’re a slave, and you’ll probably die one. Its a damn shame

        7. Sure, but it’s als short for Alexandra. Sasha is commonly a boy name in Eastern Europa. In Western Europa and North-America it’s largerly a name given to females.
          “People died because you spew this shit and pretend it’s real because you each suck at life and need to blame everything except your selves. Deal with it. Claim it. Like a man.”
          Funny how you claim each should claim their rightful responsibility yet you try to put reponsibility where in doesn’t belong i.e. try to put the blame of the deaths a lunatic caused on sites like this one.
          It seems the idiot here is you.

        8. “That’s desperate. Demonstrate it?”
          He should first and foremost demonstrate what he means with “this”.
          “”People died because you spew this shit”
          Specify “this”.

        9. he refused when challenged because he couldn’t, and then started spluttering garbage.

        10. The guy is obviously full of shit. He said “People died because you spew this shit” specifically to me. The problem is (among many) the fact that Eliot Rodger planned to excute his murders a year ago. Het had an incident (got beat up) at a party where he broke his foot forcing him to reschedule. A year ago I myself wasn’t even a active commenter on this site (or any site for that matter).

        11. I understand. But in the West Sasha is largely a name given to girls. My main point really wan’t the name (the name is editional) it is his feminine way of writting/thinking.

        12. ” “Sasha” is short for Alexander,”
          You still talk like a woman, tovarisch.

        13. You still didn’t back your assertion of “People died because you spew this shit”, you lose the internets.

        14. He cannot, and he (at least we think it’s a “he”) knows it. Trolls gonna troll.

        15. Well said. Russia is one of the most pussy whipped countries in the world, and this gelded mangina has the nerve to tell us to “man up”.
          Fucking hilarious.

    2. “And yes, I’m a white, heterosexual man..”
      1.White feminazi female journalist trolling as a man
      2.White mangina journalist
      No problem, your trolls are amusing.

    3. What I find so amusing about this site is that so many men here claim to be “alphas” or “red pills.” They act confident by bragging about the sluts they bang, the money they make, the amount of weight they can lift, and by putting others, especially women down. In reality, all of the confident men that I know, who I would consider “alpha,” don’t need to prove anything to the world or constantly put others down. Their lives speak for themselves. They treat all others, including women and minorities with respect, and gain respect in return.
      Fortunately this group is still in the minority, hence the lack of policy change. I am constantly reminded of this quote by the author Joe Abercrombie when I read here.
      “Things aren’t what they used to be’ is the rallying cry of small minds. When men say things used to be better, they invariably mean they were better for them, because they were young, and had all their hopes intact. The world is bound to look a darker place as you slide into the grave.”

      1. “In reality, all of the confident men that I know, who I would consider “alpha,”
        So then its basically just a problem of interpretation.
        Because we here at RoK would consider those men “Beta Faggots”.

  54. Great article which exposes the truth behind the witch hunt smear propaganda that liberal media is currently engaging in right now to shut down the manosphere.
    Gentlemen, I think you need to understand a couple of points here from the article.
    I think that in the wake of the Elliot Rodger’s shooting, a lot of fem cunt journalists, white knights journalists, pro-fem manginas journalists/bureaucrats will be trolling RoK in order to provoke negative statements from regular readers here – to link us to the tragedy.
    If you read the links to the fem journalists articles in the article above, you’ll find how those feminazi journalists are resorting to a smear campaign propaganda in their articles by quoting comments of angry commentators on some red pill sites, in their “justifications” against the manosphere. Of course, they won’t post the provocative statements they would be using to provoke such reactions, by trolling the manosphere sites.
    The idea would be start a hate fest of words from our readers which would actually hurt us, even though red pill does not promote violence. We’d be labelled as hate spewing misogynists, the label that they want to desperately put on us.
    Any violent or hate filled comments from readers to these trolls would only serve as twisted “evidence” in the hands of these people who’d use it further in their campaign to shut down this site. If you ever feel the need to reply to any of these trolls, simply browse through the internet or this site to post a relevant article to backup your rebuttal. Don’t waste time arguing with these people, because any
    negative or curse statement that you’d say to rebutt this idiotic trolls could backfire against RoK. Take it easy, and identify these trolls’ comments as provocation. They’re stupid, irrational and can’t be argued with.
    Just post your rational rebuttal with a proof, and if the troll persists in bugging you, just ignore them, because they’re beneath you in rationale. Identify the trolls by calling them out, and report them by flagging their comments. Use discretion, gentlemen. Don’t use hate filled speech against this. They will try use that to shut down this site. We must not fall for their bait of provocation.

    1. Most commenters to this site are brilliant at maintaining discipline. I am sure the above will be observed and maintained.

      1. I would add that this is also an opportunity to think a little about both a) the image being projected more widely and b) working on persuasiveness, the broader appeal that will follower when we can demonstrate that this isn’t about hate, but an alternative vision, one that is both legitimate and necessary. Pull the rug from under their legs

    2. The simplest way to achieve this is to follow the rules and never reply to comments from women. Never. And that includes down voting. No. replies. at. all.
      I would extend this discipline to manginas and other trolls as well.

      1. The only response to women shall be that their comment is automatically flagged.

      2. Definitely need to cast a wider net than just not replying to women. Ive seen quite a few comments here under mens names from what are almost certainly women. And more from men who might as well be women given how little testicular fortitude they display.
        Just dont reply to anyone who leans left.

    3. “Identify the trolls by calling them out, and report them by flagging their comments.”

    4. They have tried this sort of thing before of course, its nothing new, but now is a particularly opportune time for them to try again.
      The most important thing is not to appear to threaten or condone violence. You shouldn’t actually condone or threaten violence either of course, but appearance is whats important when people are actively trying to demonise you. This is the most likely thing that would make the authorities start to pay us negative attention.
      The mods should also crack down on anyone who goes on violent rants, because this will result in guilt by association if the comments are allowed to stand. Even if its just a Feminist sock puppet thats making the comments.

  55. Feminists are without any sense. They will turn everything into rape or misogyny.
    This is an actual example. I did not know how to answer it.
    “I think women are better of being home talking care of the kids. Its just another way to look at it has nothing to do with misogyny because I think she would be happier like that and everyone would be better off. Just my 5 cent”.
    She answered
    “Ahhh that’s how you guys do it, by claiming “oh it’s just my opinion”. Or another way of looking at it. Rape could be just one man’s way of showing his ‘love’ for women from that point of view, right?”
    Crazy right ? Theres no logic or nothing at all. Just talking for the sake of talking. Its like they dont care what they say.

    1. Wow, cold but excellent example.
      Can’t say I’m surprised as I’ve seen/heard similar before. Just beyond all rational thought.

  56. Outstanding, Tuthmosis!
    Thank you for articulating what I’m certain many of us have been thinking in recent days.

  57. Did you hear the one about college girls and sexual assault? It’s said that 1 in 4 is a victim, with many college guys following the motto “get it in before she flakes”!

  58. This is an extremely erudite article and retort to this whole circus that has been thrown up by the recent tragic incident. Tuthmosis could have been emotive and gilded the lily, but instead he was short and to the point. Kudos.
    I have some stuff to say regarding the autism aspect, but I will keep it for when my registration comes throuhg next month at the Roosh’s forum. A few others things too.
    But for now, I just want to say how shocked I am by the hijacking of this by various factions for their own selfish and narrow sighted ends, and even more, the way they have projected on this and turned it around, and blamed people like Roosh for doing the same. No no no! Tuthmosis has been absolutely surgical and spot on here.
    I have read every single page of the response at Roosh’s forum and I have not come across any bitterness or aggression. In fact, a couple of posts have touched me deeply, by some of the Men saying something I think maybe felt difficult before, but had to be said now. That is, just how much us Men in the ‘Betterment’ camp, not the MRA, not the other sub-cultures that represent the Manosphere as Tuthmosis so astutely pointed out, just how much We Love Women. Real Women. I know I do. And I won’t tolerate any hatred by cowards to the fairer sex. Yes, I am a Gentlemen. But I am not a White Knight.
    By god they sicken me. The White Knights are worse then any femi-nazi bitch furthering her own little agenda. Truly the lowest of the low. There is a difference between a man that does not support violence against women (me) and these simpering gamma/omega (or wtf they are) nomarks in denial and desperation, not just to get laid (they accept that will never happen) but just for validation from a female. They truly are as much the enemy and a major part of the problem now. I can forgive the bitches with their bitch nature, but I can not forgive these wet little wanna be men.
    And props to Lance too for sticking to his guns and having the courage of his convictions, acting with courage, based on knowledge and self-education and self-knowing. Kudos to him too. And many others of course. But please, less of the ad-hominem when dealing with these bitches. Don’t fuel their fire.
    As for banning them, the nature of this forum makes it pretty much impossible. If you build or design websites you would know why. At least that is my take. Please correct me if I am wrong. Just crack on fellas. This too shall pass.
    What that fucking psycho idiot Rodger did was wrong, against the laws of all humanity. Do you get that bitches? No one here supports what he did. The whole point was the community he was part of – puaHate or wtf it was called, did condone it. They have shut down. Roosh and RoK are going strong. Heads held high.

  59. Speaking as someone from an foreign country and viewing all of what is happening in America:
    Being a single average young male in America seems like a horrifying experience. Plus Western society seems to feel that the only form of sex that is acceptable is when a female has all the power and freedom to choose only from the most desirable and attractive alpha males. If a female is not having sex with a male who doesn’t arouse her 100% sexually, she is put down by society and her peers.
    Fortunately in other parts of the world women and men are not bound to such rules and hangups…
    If I had a son, unless I see signs that he is going to grow up into an extremely attractive and tall alpha male, I would never, ever raise him in America. I would not doom him to such a terrible and stressful growing up experience

  60. To be perfectly honest, there really isn’t anything like white privilege only “mean IQ of 100” privlege.

  61. Man I SWEAR…everytime I read articles on this site its like an orgasm..FINALLY someone articulates the RAW UNADULTERATED, STRAIGHT NO CHASER…EFF THE BEE ESS ..and I DONT GIVE A D A M N WHO IS READING THIS T-R-U-T-H!!!
    Jeeezuz thank you. For years I have stood Alone and taken all the name calling and abuse from people saying all form of ridiculousness about me….but whoever writes these articles is an intellectually honest individual and should be respected as such.

  62. I think it’s more about the Zionist-occupation government imposing subhumans on us in their campaign of genocide against Western civilization.
    If you look at interracial rape statistics put out by the FBI involving blacks and Whites, to call the disparities breathtaking does not do it justice. In 2007, for example, there were 14,000 black on White sexual assaults and zero White on black sexual assaults – and keep in might Whites outnumber blacks by about 4:1.
    Oh, and by the way, Whites don’t need to have blacks around to do fine. How to blacks fare without Whites?
    To call White females – or Whites in general – “privileged” when we live under this uncomfortable – and sometimes terrifying – enforced togetherness with other races, it is extremely insulting.

    1. “To call White females – or Whites in general – “privileged” when we live under this uncomfortable – and sometimes terrifying – enforced togetherness with other races, it is extremely insulting.”
      As Jay pointed out, this article is specifically about white women, you know, the ones who have you by the balls right now.
      Subhumans, lol, gotta love that name.

    2. You white nationalist love to come up w/ stats & spin it the way you want it look. Fact is blacks are 5 times more likely than whites to be attacked in a racially motivated attack. Fact is whites commit most of the violent crime & while we blacks can be violent in our youth as w get older our violence goes down while as whites get older your violence goes up! Sub human uh you need to google “ALL NON AFRICANS ARE PART NEANDERTHAL” i f anything your the ones w/ sub human genes. Checkmate…

      1. And you want to know why, in terms of the latter? It’s because their own women have been keeping them in such short leashes, to the point they project their anger to everyone else.
        Also, I am sharing the fact that every time I share my granduncle’s ultimate fate in real life and in front of white women no less, a lot of them took offense.

      2. “Fact is whites commit most of the violent crime”
        The only fact here is that you are dumber than a box of rocks, try reading some actual crime statistics. Or just keep proving, over and over, how stupid you are.

      3. Say what you will but whites are superior blacks.
        Now, don’t you have some (c)rap to listen to and practice some voodoo spells?

        1. So superior that your birth rates are in the NEGATIVE! For every one of you white neanderthals born one of you dies. Google “BLONDS ARE BECOMING EXTINCT”. So that little report done by the BBC which makes me all warm & fuzzy inside what you call “Voodoo”?. So say what you want but your race is dying out. Also the Earth is getting hotter so good luck to those of you w/ white or really light skin. We blacks have already won….

        2. I’m not going to put much faith into anything BBC or other liberal media outlet vomits forth. You can believe in black superiority all you want, but the truth is that without whites we would be still living in huts.
          Truth hurts, i know.

        3. Neanderthal. you do not have to put your faith in anything liberal. Fox news is begging you to produce more babies. Your boys over at Stormfront admit that your numbers are 0 when it comes to reproducing. You can not get around this fact no matter how much you cluck & chick. Your race is dying PERIOD.

    3. I find white nationalist drivel something to laugh at, especially when they have been historically WHIPPED by their own women.
      Seriously, if Anglo women are the very “keepers of sex” in their own society, then blame them. They are the very factors why Anglos are not even copulating enough, by pricing themselves out and then populating their own ilk when their own reproductive systems are at a minimal functioning point (read: about to get shut down).

    4. Wrong, alpha-Slappy … Zero REPORTED white on black sexual assaults. Now run along … I’m sure you have a cross burning to get to …

      1. Right, because your imaginary statistics matter. You sound like a feminist now. “Even if there is no evidence for it, it happens…oh, and straw man. Bam!”
        You’re no better than most liberals. You just choose or reject your liberal causes based in self-interest. You protest attacking white men from one irrational angle, but promote it from another irrational angle. Because you aren’t consistent, you help no-one.

  63. it’s wrong that people are calling this guy white, he was half asian and felt he was owed a white blonde woman which fueled his anger due to their rejection. This is like the zimmerman fiasco, white people getting the blame for even mixed whites now. Of course obama is as white as this guy but that doesn’t count to the liberals.

  64. I stand by opinion on why Rogers went on his killing spree: He was secretly pissed that he did not have enough looks to attract the women he wanted. This pissed him off and could not get over it and he got jealous of all the good looking frat stars that were pounding the blonde cheerleaders. Most people get over this…but he could not. He deluded himself into believing he was an ideal male by buying an expensive car and nice clothing, but nothing could help him escape his average looks.

    1. No homo…. but the kid was good enough looking to get laid by quality girls….HE JUST HAD NO GAME!!!!

  65. Elliot Rogers was a punk assed bitch. Most of you that consider yourself alpha males are as well. Sorry, but decades of psychological research (that you’re too unintelligent to read) prove it. Go ahead, come for my sister. I’ll show you how correct the psychologists are.

    1. So you don’t think guys like us already came for your sister and much to her liking, and then she plays the “good-girl” routing with the family? Or is that too much of a stretch? I’m sure she is special and has no normal female tendencies.

      1. I’m glad you correctly said “came” instead of are coming. Let’s just put it this way … there’s an old saying in my family about guys like you. “Shoot the first one, and the word will spread.”

        1. Good one, but it amazes me how quick you types are easy to blame other men when the problems and whorish behavior starts with the sisters and daughters you so pedestalize. Let me guess, doth thou sweet and most innocent sister clothe herself in short-shorts and/or yoga pants? Doth thy kin wear sexually provocative clothing that may enticith men? Lmao. Yet, we are to blame, while loosening all controls over them.

        2. if you come from a conservative culture and kept a strong and watchful eye on her and your father stays alpha, then great yes and I belive you.
          But if youre the typical white or western family then your sister has been railed left right and centre from puberty.
          I suggest keep a close eye on her phone and emails.
          girls are very crafty and keeping their trail and know how to act….better then we do. So think ahead of the game

        3. Yeah, actually, you are kind of responsible for your own behavior and actions. I was just going to respond to “splooge” and tell him, “yes, we were white and conservative.” Your post is well timed, because it was exactly our conservative, old school Italian values that made us watch over our sisters … and alpha we were, in that regard. We may not be as different as you guys think. But your web site – intentionally or not – inherently condones and actually propagates things like date rape. And sorry, but in my book, that doesn’t make you “Alpha.” It actually makes you more Taliban. Just sayin’ …

        4. So we condone date rape? Wow… guy. The guys on this site, where we’re from, and what we do may surprise you. I understand your modus operandi John, and even though I’d like to label you as a white knight or captain save-a-hoe, I can’t because it’s your sister, so technically you’re justified. With that said, your personal beliefs are little naive, outmoded and misplaced. I am a conservative too, just like you. If I had a daughter, I’d in fact seek to send her off to a nunnery to protect her from the vile culture we currently live in. Now, we live in an extremely liberal cesspool of a society where all manner of perversity is praised and normalcy and tradition are shunned. We come from the latter position and guess how we’re treated by society, if we openly tried to propagate our views? Your sister will grow up in a society and go to schools where promiscuity, provocative clothing, giving anal, bathroom bjs, and Miley fucking Cyrus is the norm. So do you really want to direct your attention and guns at us?
          Guess what, there are no more “old school Italian values” in America. Why because the law says so, divorce, alimony, and child-support crushes whatever traditional Catholic ways you thought you’d have. Lastly, go ahead and try to prevent your sister from partaking in this culture, and watch her rebel. Watch her accuse, “you’re a caveman, misogynist etc.” What he insist, “my friends, my school, society etc.” You’re not fighting us my friend, you’re fighting society, the government, and the media. Who are you carrying those bricks for? We are not your enemies. So put down the animosities and join your brothers in arms while we still have olive branches to go around. Join our ranks.

        5. John – Conservatism is a noble ideal to have (Lance beat me to it) and protecting the chastity of your female relatives and those dearest to you is also as noble.
          Lance also summed it up well but ill put it a different way, consider us as, well to use Confucius…”water”, if you put water in a cup it will take the shape of the cup, put water in a brook or a stream and it will take the shape of its surroundings. Now before you say it WE ARE aware and responsible towards our actions, the point I’m trying to make is to stick to the values that we would prefer to uphold would require a change in both parties, for my part I would be willing to make those changes for the right girl (key phrase = right girl).
          Now assuming we were sticking to our guns of being the noble males, plenty of evidence and once-broken men are rebelling against the traditional views not because we don’t want them but simply because the current system preys on the morally upright and upstanding and leaves them disheartened and sometimes bitter, financially ruined in some cases and if you care to read statistics suicidal – which solves nothing and is pointless considering the many MANY men who have risen from the ashes to become better and stronger than they were before. which is where we come to sites like ROK; some of the content you may not agree with, some of its wording seems a little harsh but its ultimate aim is to create a balance between old school beliefs and attitudes (alpha male) and the modern trappings and social requirements so that said alpha can survive and thrive, mentally, psychologically and financially and enjoy a better quality of life which he otherwise would not have had.
          Again Lance hit the nail on the head so I defer to him on this he wrote it better than I could have.

        6. Females wants to fuck just as much as males do, get over it.
          You sure are a creepy motherfucker aren’t you?

        7. tell her to wipe her chin, I already came on her face. She’s probably already blown the entire football team several times
          now we’re really scared, the Official Internet Tough Guy is here

        8. The whorish behavior starts and ends with men who seek easy women. They oblige. You complain. Go figure.

    2. If you’re a lib, your sister has already been on all 4s and been plugged in
      both holes….that was just after she finished her slut march.

  66. racism is more problematic yet “sexism” gets more attention. To talk a point from George Carlin “they dont give a fuck about black womens rights or latin womens, they just care about their pocket books and reproductive rights”
    if this wasnt the case solidarityisforwhitewomen wouldnt exist

    1. the feminist agenda advanced pretty quick following 9/11 as people tended to move further away from the value systems of declared enemies like the taliban. Ellen DeGeneres for instance made a point about being everything the taliban was against – which is true. Progressive causes benefited no end from being able to position themselves as the opposite of what the enemy believed in, an enemy that was backward and misogynistic.
      I don’t know whether 9/11 was a false flag op, but thereafter I am sure our allegiances have been channelled to be supportive of progressivism and to be critical of race / immigration. The latter is a genuine problem, but both progressivism and immigration as a policy are part of the same political platform. The whole thing has been a manipulation

  67. Sometimes ROK takes **** about 10 levels too far, akin to MRA losers. But this was a very good article. Keep it up Tuthmosis.

  68. If you read his manifesto , He definitely had misogynistic ideas whether or not thats what he really believed or was just venting we don’t know.
    His innate jealousy and envy was what most likely drove him to kill.

  69. Elliot Rodger was nothing but a rich, spoiled, entitled little narcissistic douchebag with psychopathic tendencies. He was also a blatant racist, misogynist and thought he was an aplha/A-grade human being and that women owed him sex. In short, he was an idiot with delusions of grandeur, which females probably could smell on him and therefore didn’t want to bed.
    Don’t pity the idiots and psychos, they deserve no such attention.

  70. As a guy who came from an absolutely conservative background with zero skills with women and who got his real “sex educations” from the game and PUAs (through their writings and forums) I have to admit that nowhere else I’ve learned more moral guidelines in dealing with women. For example PUA’s taught me not to lie “I love you” to a girl just for having sex with her. Or not to get forceful even with a semi-naked girl on my bed.
    About “misogyny”, feminists think they can paralyze their opponents by throwing this stupid word at them but in reality the “misogynist” slur is no smarter than telling your opponent “Your Mom is fat”.
    Lastly it’s very sad and alarming to see that prominent news outlets like BBC and CSMonitor have succumbed to the feminist propaganda, publishing articles with no regard to any journalism standard on a regular basis.

  71. I’m sorry, but this is about misogyny. Yes, he was mentally ill and not even the most intense women-haters will go on a killing spree, but a huge component of his illness was directly related to men’s desperation and feelings of entitlement. His mental break didn’t involve little green men and anal probes or talking trees, he was completely lucid. This is the culture that he was exposed to, this is a feeling sites like this encouraged. People who visit this site and believe these things have to start accepting it for the sickness it is.

    1. Your “feelings of entitlement” is a demonization of “biological need”
      which your ideology wants to sweep under the rug. But the problem is
      that biology never bows down to ideology.

    2. He was exposed to a terrible father, a terrible mother a vindictive stepmother and had a series of terrible therapists blowing smoke up his arse.
      blaming a website for resenting your own family is preposterous. The parents know exactly how they mishandled their son. They know.

  72. I actually got the feeling that most of the victim press was focused at that young guy Martinez, not the two girls. The killer’s video and manifesto was FULL of female hate – specifically tall blonde, white girls- and hate of the guys that got those girls. Also, he tried to get into the sorority house to kill only women but they obviously didn’t let him in.
    Also, as for the short hair journalists – who cares? If that’s not a look you’re into, then don’t date them. In a world of 7 billion people, a few short-hair journalists don’t actually affect your odds of having sex.

  73. Oh, cute. My comment got deleted. Nothing helps move a culture forward quite like censorship. Well done, gentlemen.

  74. Honestly, I have all day. I can sit here and troll you pathetic little shits as long as I feel like and you can keep deleting. Even if no one else gets to see, it’s enough fun for me to piss off the cowardly basement dwelling loser deleting everything because he is too scared of someone else’s opinion coming in and wrecking the circle jerk.

    1. Everything OK? I can see 3 comments of yours posted in a matter of 12 minutes resting comfortably here (using “sort by newest”). Do you hear any voices or see things?

    2. Troll. With each troll you’re adding to our internet revenue.
      Thank you.

  75. Have a look at yourselves, see what you’re doing to yourselves by buying into this ridiculous myth. Alphas, Betas, it’s a joke. It’s not real. Your emotional and mental health are jeopardized along with your very soul itself.

    1. its just a set of tools like any. useful tools though.
      thank you for being concerned about our mortal souls

  76. I pity you, but I’ll fight until the grave to help abolish this type of thinking.

    1. why not just fight to the grave to abolish thinking – full stop. It would serve your politics well

    1. It didn’t. But you won’t stop hearing it. Until the noise quietens down.
      Then all that will be left is the voice of reason.
      These bitches are having a field day now, feeding off the misery.
      We will still be going strong, improving with time, in the coming weeks and future.

  77. Feminism is about the EQUALITY of men and women, not the superiority of women. Ask most feminists and they will tell you this. If you believe women should have the same opportunities as men and should be treated with the same level of respect then YOU ARE A FEMINIST. Feminism Helps the Male gender More Than You Can Possibly Imagine. It is about women pulling their own weight and being there own person. And Elliot Rodger made young women the victim. He hated women in general for not showing him affection.. tell me how young women are not the victim

    1. Olivia, it’s not worth wasting the effort on them. The vast majority here aren’t rational people, they’re so eaten up by the dribbling rage caused by resentment, inadequacy, and childish entitlement that they’ve lost touch with all reality. Their delusions seem real to them and they really do need help; it’s quite sad really. Frightening, but sad nonetheless.

  78. I used to be a huge fan of this site and agreed with nearly everything written here, including the comments section, but I’ve just finished reading the kid’s 140 page manifesto. He sounds just like this website, especially his ranting of women and their choice of men and how they go about choosing their men. The way he saw women as completely different species, his perceived superiority over women and his alpha status… which I mean, he actually did something about it. Those in this website just sit and bitterly complains … It’s unnerving to think he is in the same category as us on this site, or even better us

    1. you’re an idiot if you don’t understand the distinction between his views (anti-pua) and red-pill views.
      PUA/RedPill is seeing the world for what it is, accepting it, and choosing to react by adjusting behavior to adapt & thrive in that world. Anti-PUA is seeing the world for what it is, rejecting it, and choosing to react by stewing in anger and hatred.

      1. It’s all the same shit. I know you can find some criteria to sort all this trash into different bins, but at the end of the day, it’s all trash. PUA, anti-PUA, all this other crap – real men don’t ever get involved in this crap.

        1. Rodger wasn’t a “real man”, he was a de-balled product of a feminist world. His entitlement was learend from women as there is no species more entitled than a western woman.

      2. And yet you all use the same language and rationale, but no, you’re nothing alike. 🙂

        1. Yes, you keep telling yourself that, manchild- anything to stop yourself facing up to what a freak you are. Carry on copying & pasting!

    2. He sounds like an entitled Western women, nothing less.
      No one in the manosphere promotes entitlement, in fact, the manosphere promotes independence and the NON-pedestalization of females.

    3. transamerican77 trolling as JJ.
      Mods, ban this cunt. Both of them.
      Transamerican, you’ve trolled Roosh’s first article enough with your anti-game and anti-ROK comments.
      We’ve identified you.

      1. This is literally my first comment on this website and I’m not a fucking girl. You don’t know shit so stop talking like you’re some kind of 4chan Anonymous fag

  79. “I deserve a nice guy.”
    That is all I’ve ever heard ALL women say. Women and feminist ideology are very much like the Rodger kid….which isn’t surprising as he was raised as manginus maximus.
    He “deserved”.
    Women “deserve”.
    ….not sure why women are tethering this guy to the manosphere.
    Elliot Rodger is a manifestation of female thinking….not men.
    As a man, if I want something…I go and get it.

    1. Elliot Rodger was mentally ill. It wasn’t “female thinking” what drove him to commit murder.

      1. Yes it was. Elliot Rodger’s mental illness does not negate the female thinking pattern

        1. Agreed. Women think they are princesses and goddesses who “deserve” this and that. it’s pathetic and sad.

      2. part of his malfunction was an effeminate mindset. He sounds like a girly man.Perhaps his therapist should have suggested something similar.
        “Are you Homosexual?”

  80. Hey Roosh – these white and black dudes having dick measuring contests in the comment section makes this website look like a bunch of clowns.

  81. These posts absolutely break my heart. Guys, until you’ve experienced the humiliation, the threats, the dismissal, and sometimes even the violence that comes along with growing up female, I’m sure its hard to imagine that it’s real. Sadly, it is. When I was a teenager, I used to think feminists were obnoxious, too. But that was before men in cars chased me down alleys, before bosses cornered me and tried to touch me, before boyfriends shared intimate images with all their friends, before I learned to alter my behavior, my dress, my speech, my professional approach, all to avoid threatening encounters with men. If you walked a mile in a female’s shoes, you might have a change of heart, too. But since that’s not possible, please at least consider being a bit more charitable when people who have experienced those things speak out and call it wrong. Sure, rich white girls have privileges that working class guys often don’t, but when it comes to misogyny all women are dehumanized and hated at some point.

    1. 78% of the murder victims in the US in 2012 were males.
      If we’re going to do a gender oppression olympics, then… that’s pretty much the trump card.

        1. Seeing as most of you here are sub-human, that’s not entirely true, is it?

      1. I’d lay my money on NoNeed being a guy, or a woman who has never been chased/pursued by a guy for anything.

  82. It’s so ironic to me that you’re criticizing members of the feminist community for using the Roger tragedy to push their political agendas, while you’re arguing this fact by using the Roger tragedy to push your political agenda.
    The guy ruthlessly murdered both men and women. Let the tragedy pass before you use it as a means of weaponry in the equality war. Enough is enough, for now.

    1. All’s fair in love and war.
      Why do you think conservatives are always losing? Because the ‘high road’, while morally strong, also is a good way to lose.
      Character assassination, Propaganda, victim politics, pandering… these are all the tools the villain has been using successfully to alienate the strong for a century… Since we cannot (easily) simply kill or break the antagonists, we must use their tools against them or Surrender the war forever.

  83. I think we need to go on another ban hammer spree… these chicks are getting WAY too many replies when they whine about how hard it is to be a woman.

  84. “Don’t trust the mentally ill to comment on the mentally ill”. Kind of an ironic statement to be used by a bunch of men-children who continually use the same hate filled, entitled language that this freak used. You’re so much like him it’s not even funny.

  85. The White Privilege crowds are making themselves look like the stupid douchebags that they are? Goooood.

  86. These “journalists” wouldn’t know what journalism is if it bit them in the ass. Valenti, Manjaws, and their beta male hordes are propagandists that would give Josef Gobbles a run for his money. But it’s not just feminists that are exploiting this tragedy for the political gain, the right-wing gunuts are doing the same thing. Only the feminists are welcomed with open arms and servile head nods, while the gun nuts are sneered at with derision. Both should be sneered at with derision, but that’s just me. Excellent article Tuth.

  87. These journalists have trivialized the deaths of all of the victims and insulted their families. This was as much about racism as it was about misogyny. I think all of America is ignoring the elephant in the room: the fact that this type of massacres keep happening in the USA. This type of incident frequently occurs in the USA. It happens in other countries too but to nowhere near the same extent. So the question is why. What is wrong with American society?

  88. oh look the feminist retards and there masculinist mirror image counter-parts are playing a game of “who-can-be-more-anti-white-than-the-other?” and then each ignore the anti-white nature of the other and bash the other side as being a representative of “privileged white males/females” encouraging hatred of the white race either way you look at it. F*CK YOU BOTH! there is no such thing as “white privilege” white people are the ones who are being systematically dispossessed by mass immigration/invasion/colonisation of non-whites to every white country on the face of the planet. DIVERSITY IS CODE FOR WHITE GENOCIDE! Elliot Rodger was a half-Asian mutt with a hatred of full blooded white people. F*ck him

  89. Okay this is disgusting. The writer is clearly a biased feminist hater and sorry to say it but a class A misogynist. Notice how ignored the fact that the killings were commited ny a sick individual and rebranded them as PUAHate killings to suit his argument. This article was written by the same man who wrote an article about why you should date girls with eating disorders. Most of the comments below make me sick. The truth is I am a middle class young white woman and I face sexism on a daily basis. I have had to physicaly fight off self entitled men who think I owe them somthing just because I walked into the bar. Please dont use these tragic deaths to promote your own sexist agenda. Its this kind of thinking that led to the deaths in the first place

  90. What, no mention that Rodgers was a jew and his victims blonde White girls who he had racial animus towards? Nor the fact that many of those so-called journalists are also jews?

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