I have been semi-incapacitated twice with the exact medical condition. However, the difference was that during the first incapacitation I was blue pill and married while the second time was when I was practicing red pill and game. As you may expect, there were huge differences in outcome.
First time: blue pill
Blue pill as hell
This was about a decade ago. I was married, with two small daughters, and was working at a high-tech international corporation. Things were not that good at the time, to the point that we considered marriage counseling. Yes, I know. I was blue as a smurf, a classic beta guy.
Out of nowhere a medical condition happened. It is something that happens to people in my condition, but is considered rare. I was confined to the house, able to move but with limited functions. I had to see a special doctor at the outpatient clinic of a hospital on a weekly basis and could not drive there. I knew that recovery takes several months (happened to me in my early 20s), and that I needed to be taken care of.
One would expect that the marriage vow “For better or for worse” will apply to this case, right? After you have been there for her when she was sick, in labor, supporting her and your children, one ought to expect her to also be there when you need her.
Yes – she wasn’t into me as well
I found myself fighting with her left and right. I had to shout her into taking me to my weekly doctor’s appointments, threaten her to do stuff for me (running an errand once or twice a week), and basically not get any sex, comfort or sympathy. She did not take any interest to the condition, read about it or talk to doctors.
To top it all off, she was asking for sympathy for taking care of me and went back to smoking (a filthy habit which she agreed to stop as a pre-condition to our engagement). My feeling was that I was bleeding on the floor and being kicked at the guts.
I was experiencing a lot of negative emotions – pain, helplessness, frustration and a feeling of betrayal. I reached out to my family to tell them what was happening and they were shocked. To this day some of my relatives say that they will never forgive her.
I had no idea what to do, but I understood that something was terribly wrong. I was frustrated as hell with the condition, but did not question the blue pill narrative yet (that would come a few years later when I was in the middle of the divorce). It took me three months to find a medical solution to have me back to close to my normal self, no thanks to her.
Second time: red pill
Some time after my divorce, I was practicing game and had a small harem of three women. My game level was intermediate; I was working as a consultant, with flexible hours (less income than working for an international corporation); and living in a rented apartment. Then it happened again. The medical condition came back. I was confined to the house, although the solution from the last episode made my recovery far easier.
All three girls, who had zero formal responsibilities for me and did not owe me squat, came over often. They cooked for me, cleaned the house, kept me company (not at the same time of course) and fucked me good to make me feel better.
When they would express concern about my condition, I would tell them that taking care of me will speed up the healing. They accepted the challenge and would arrive whenever I permitted them to come. I could not believe what a radical change game can have on the situation.
Learning from experience, I kept my melancholy low and showed a cheerful face about how I was certain of a rapid recovery. The two girls who owned a car (the third did not own) suggested driving me to my doctor’s appointments, without me asking them to. All of their actions came without me asking for anything, and none of them “had” to do it.
I continued to game them – agreeing and amplifying my condition (“Yes. I may die – in 40 to 50 years”— punch in the arm and smile), teasing (“What’s it like being with a handicap person?”–punch in the arm and kiss) and escalating sexually (“Here, Feel my body, it needs sexual healing”–sex).
A good description of how they felt
One of them dropped out of the harem during the month I was at home, but it is expected (not all girls will remain with you even when you are healthy). I still had two girls coming over regularly to assist me. It took me one month to partially recover back to my (close to) normal self.
Game is crucial in most (if not all) aspects of life
The saying that “At least you have your health” has extra meaning for me. Health is like air – you notice it only when it is lacking, while having game can improve any medical condition you endure. I’m not saying to married readers to ditch their wives, but by using game, you can have a better chance of being taken care of.
We all need to be prepared for emergency. Either by having a “Fuck You Fund”, a network of professionals, physical strength, mental ability, or an understanding of the future (my favorites 1, 2 and 3). Having game allowed me to convert a potentially bleak situation (if I had been on the blue pill) to a far better outcome (being taken care of and having sex on demand).
Some of you may say that being optimistic would have made the first situation far better. I agree to some extent. However, even if I was optimistic, I would still not being taken care of, not to mention having sex on demand. Having game, to me, seems far superior to just being optimistic. It’s a tool that can be used in life-changing situations that one may not have anticipated.
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There’s gotta’ be something about a nurse’s bedside manners in here somewhere…
Is it the game? Or is it the fact that you weren’t really committed to these girls so they constantly had to put up their best face? I wonder if you had married one of the three girls as a second marriage what the outcome would have been.
One in the same. An essential part of game is to be non-committal and non-monogamous, so that women are always in a state of having to work for your time and attention.
Thats why I say marriage will be a man’s downfall.
I kind of doubt his ex wife would do what these girls are doing before they got married. Also, is they really a high chance these women would accept a marriage proposal from him? He is a probably a nice guy but this situation has to be alarming.
Yes, ex wife seems like a selfish hystrionic bitch (sorry to say that), so I doubt as well she would take care of him before the marriage… But I would be more optimistic about the girls… I might be naive… but I myself can imagine having a relationship with a man with some “health issues” (of course depends on other things, f. i. the nature of the illness… and I must love him), even in my “youth” :-).
Anyway, without knowing more about Dawn Pine (Oren 🙂 ), his illness, his 3 girlfriends and their expectations, we can’t say much about their intentions or even predict a future scenario.
What’s far more alarming in my eyes is the fact that there were three girls at the same time. What if they find out? Wouldn’t they feel (among other things) like being taken advantage of? I myself surely would. I don’t want to sound judgemental, I just want to point out that this attitude/game strategy is risky and can eliminate a good dating material.
My grandparents have been married for 61 years and last year my grandfather had a stroke, which had him virtually bedridden and dependent for months. We honestly thought that he would die. Thankfully, he recovered somewhat and isn’t like he was and still requires some care, but can do more for himself. And my grandmother has been taking care of him all since he has been sick. Although they’ve been together for virtually their whole lives as 61 years ago when they married, my grandmother was still 19 and my granddad was 21 years old. I’m about 10 years older now than they were then.It’s rare to see anyone that young married today.
Hmm, seems like they are well into old-age, so abandoning your grandfather would be bad for her as well (I’m not discounting the caring of your grandmother but just saying…). What I’m more curious about is if you’re say a younger guy, but you get into an accident or some terrible disease afflicts you, would a girlfriend stick around then or would she hop to a healthy guy? Without the physical strength to live by yourself, would women stick around? Women are desired for their youth, looks, and fertility, while men are desired for their resource-gathering abilities (which include being reasonably healthy). So if you are a twenty-something male that gets into a motorcycle accident, would your girlfriend stick around if you weren’t able to recover quickly? That’s what I’m curious about.
Ah yes, I see your point. Although to be fair, at this point in my life, if I were married and my wife got sick to the point where she needed alot of care, I’d probably do it out of duty. But, I most likely would cheat on her with a healthy woman. But I would feel crappy about just abandoning her for something not her fault.
But if she got fat, something she could control, I would divorce her. If she’s 25 and 150 lbs when we marry and then a year and a half later she’s up to 225 lbs, I would give her a time limit to lose weight and if I didn’t see progress, it would be over.
It’s different of we both get old and fat together. In 50 years, except by some scientific advancement, I likely won’t have a 6 pack and might have a keg instead. But she shouldn’t be fat at 26 years old.
Make sense that you would still take care of her out of duty, but cheat with a healthy woman. I wonder if the roles were reversed, would she at least take care of you out of duty? I think it’s obvious she would cheat, but I wonder if she would at least take care of you.
Competitive caregiving is a sport among women.
well said.
I don’t think it’s the “game” you learned.
It’s just what happens naturally when women chase the commitment they know you are not giving them.
Take it to the next level with any of them, and they might be bored out of their minds.
One of them is on the next level as she is in an mLTR setting for years now
Maybe thats my problem
Maybe these girls were just nicer then your wife (she sounded terrible). That said mention marriage and they may tell you they do not think it is a good idea. Did the one that left you concluded your not the guy for you or suspect you were seeing other people?
Did you know that this site discourages women and heathens to come here?
She left because she was the furthest away and had her own issues.
No signs of her seeing others. On the contrary, she had extremely busy schedule at work.
I was not trying to say she was seeing anyone else.
Nice try lol. Women always crave commitment after giving up the pussy. They all know he’s sleeping around. That just gets their competitive juices flowing. If they don’t get some solid commitment then that means the man wins. An unbearable outcome for any woman.
I am not saying these women have common sense they could surprise me either way. But judging from what I know about the guys health issues I think there is a high possibility they would say no to commitment to him.
We don’t know if they sought a commitment (at least we can’t say if for sure about the “one with extremely busy schedule at work”). Yes, we don’t know whether they were competing or not either, but I doubt it (but not for the same reason Amanda Furrow did). I guess (believe) they didn’t know about each other and probably if they knew they would quit. That is what I would do in such a situation.
I wrote my opinion few days ago, but it was detected as SPAM (as 80% of my posts are; c’est énervant, merde!). In short, I said that both situation are extreme. In both people didn’t get what they deserved and were used (just the acteurs interchanged)…
When you treat woman like shit they love you more, and will do anything to recover your masculine energy when your sick, in other words they treat you like a REAL man, instead of some slave to be exploited. Can’t make that shit up.
Yes, it works (unfortunately for me), but only to some extent. Speaking for myself, there is a fine (and almost invisible) line (sometimes even I don’t know where it is). Once he cross it I am done with him forever.
does the Queen of Hel know you’re using her name? ;-p .:.
I’m the Queen of Hell, nice to meet you!
et toi mon ami.
welcome, but play nice or we’ll “hound” you to the…
…gates of….home??
Guys, you all will meet me at the gates of my HOME one day.
feel no shame- revel in your femininity…not femin-ism.
you enjoy b/c it’s dynamic.
no wrong there.
It reminds me of one jewish prayer “Blessed are you, Lord, our God, ruler of the universe who has not created me a woman” (Talmud? not sure).
Anyway, I’m happy that I’m a woman. Doesn’t mean I don’t like men, I like them (most of them), but I don’t understand them at all. That’s one of the reasons I’m here.
but ALWAYS be ready for The One…if she comes to you….
The one….you mean the unicorn?…There is no THE ONE….that is one part of the matrix that doesn’t exist in real life. The rabbit hole does not seem to end, reality is things are looking pretty bad for men, and the ones who will suffer are woman, give it time…soon they will all be wearing vales, so its either men start to “MAN UP” and enslave these bitches ourselves or they will become Muslims probably voluntarily and be slaves anyway.
Fucking three at once?! What an achievement for us goys?!
Good article. You know, I think Rollo had a fine piece a while back on Rational Male that basically dovetails with your (author’s) experiences here. He essentially said that women didn’t evolve to be able to hindbrain -comprehend that the man their hypergamic impulses chose could possibly be less than 100% physically healthy and that consequently they tend to belittle his requests for assistance when he is sick… Or they feel the need to simply downplay his suffering. Like you said though, this mostly applies to LTRs or *shudder* (most of all), the marriage variety of LTRs. This article made me think and pretty much all of my prior “relationships” with women, especially in my blue pill days, had this dynamic and I thought it was uber-fucked up at the time. Now in hindsight from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense and women literally cannot help it methinks.
But what if she knowingly settled for a lesser man? A ‘ disposable’ beta man in her eyes? If he malfunctions then it is a simple question of whether or not he is worth repairing.
He may not be.
By your reckoning, if a woman views her man as alpha or beta he cannot win.
Editing cut out the first part. I started this article based on Rollo’s 2 articles (one old one from 2016)
My granddad had a stroke last year and my grandmother has been by his side caring for him ever since
Could it also be your newfound muscles, better fashion sense, and more angular face?
No
Muscles were already there. Fashion sense was similar (I dress the same for almost 15 years now).
As for angular face – thank you
Isn’t your name Oren Shachar :-)?
Nice try.
But no
The haram thing doesnt seem to work for me. I either feel grossed out by seeing the same girl every week, or I scare her off after a few sessions.
I have a couple chicks that come by maybe twice per year, but its hardly reliable, and each time theres a goddamn screaming match about when is David going to grow up!
Should have married a shiksa.
Not a lot of options in Israel
i’m in a similar situation but am instead tended by……. five fucking grandmas.
literally.
Tito, pass me a tissue…..
jeebus- i din’t mean to kill the thread….
Very thought-provoking article.