Having already discussed the means through which black males can increase their chances of dating non-black women, I thought I would also touch on the subject of white males approaching non-white women. In this case, I want to focus specifically on those seeking to draw the attention of black females as the topic doesn’t come up much in the manosphere.
Interest in black female and white male pairings does exist in the US. ABC’s hit show Scandal has shown that there is an openness to white male/black female partnerships among black women, and more than a few relatively high-value white men have shown a willingness to approach and date black women.
So, what is important for a white American male to remember if interested in approaching a typical black American female in the USA? Here are a few things:
Don’t Treat Her Like A Novelty
There are a decent number of non-black men out there who are interested in black women primarily as a means to an end. A hot black girl is something for them to “try out” before they settle down, or something to sample and cross off their bucket list in due time. Very few white men have actually been with black girls in the USA (this particular interracial pairing is not one of the most common and is substantially less prevalent than its reverse), so when they do meet a black female they find attractive the urge to simply “test it out” for novelty’s sake does appear on occasion.
Black women are very keenly aware of the existence of this mentality, and they don’t want any part of it. They’re usually not going to be comfortable with the idea of being an experiment for a random horny guy. When approaching these women, it is important that you distance yourself from this as much as you can. Social circle game can be valuable here, just as it is for black men looking to date interracially (as I noted a little while back).
By building strong friendships with people of multiple backgrounds and winning social proof among multiple groups, you can improve your chances of gaining romantic interest from a diverse group of women. If a black woman can see that you’re cool to her peers and with other minorities, she may be more open to you romantically and less prone to conclude that you’re just knocking the “black girl thing” off of your “to-do list”. She will want to be treated like any other girl.
Look Within Diverse Friend Groups
In a previous article discussing ways in which black men can broaden their romantic options, I noted that black males with diverse friend groups and social proof were far more likely to find non-black female suitors on a consistent basis than others.
A similar truth applies with regard to black women. Those most open to dating interracially are going to tend to be the ones open to maintaining close interracial relationships of other kinds. If her close friend group is diverse and includes many whites, there’s a decent chance that she may be willing to consider whites romantically as well. Keep in mind that your typical black American woman puts a high priority on traits like “swagger” that, more often than not, she (and American society in general) will associate with black men and assume to be absent in any white man she meets.
If you’re a white male and you do not have anything approximating this “swagger” (more on this later), then you’re better off approaching the kind of black women who put less of a premium on it. Educated black girls with diverse friend groups tend to be the most likely to fit in this group, as are girls of mixed racial heritage (generally still regarded as “black” in American society). If she doesn’t associate extensively with white people, don’t expect her to buck that trend in her romantic life. It can be done, but your chances are much lower.
Use Contrast Game
As I noted briefly above, your typical black American woman puts a high priority on traits like “swagger” that, more often than not, she (and American society in general) will associate with black men and assume to be absent in any white man she meets. This can be a barrier to many relationships between black women and white men:
4 out of 6 women also said they were simply not attracted to white men. They felt as if they lacked good looks that they were used to, as well as confidence (swag) and sex appeal. Because of this it was hard for most of them to really become serious about potentially being able to have a serious relationship with a white man.
This is where the value of “contrast game” becomes clear. If you examine my previous article regarding black men and the steps they can take to broaden their non-black romantic options, you’ll see that I touched on this issue a couple of times:
As noted above, pre-selection will often be essential to a black male’s success dating interracially in the USA. In order to make this possible, however, it is crucial for a black male to avoid association with any number of negative stereotypes associated with people like himself.
The reality is this: thugs aren’t actually cool. Any notion contrary to that is a myth. Only a select minority of non-black women are really into thugs. Most truly want nothing to do with that image or lifestyle. It is crucial to the success of any black male looking to bridge racial divides in his romantic life to avoid association with that image at all costs.
In reality, this is just contrast game. One is simply acknowledging the presence of a stereotype with potentially negative effects on their social/romantic life, understanding that he will generally be assumed to be in line with that stereotype, and working to directly contrast with said stereotype when given the chance to actually engage with those who are likely to hold that assumption.
Black men benefit from this kind of “contrast game” when approaching non-black women. Similarly, white men will benefit from creating a contrast as well when they approach black women. How?
Develop a little swagger. Make sure your game is on point (that is what this website is for, isn’t it?) and work to ensure that your confidence shows. Get very comfortable approaching with that confidence. Black men are famous for fearless, persistent approaching — though they claim to often be annoyed by this, the fact is that said reality has conditioned many black American women to expect a man to be confident enough to step to them. There is very little tolerance in the black community for shy guys, far less than you will find in other groups.
Learn to dance, an act that will benefit you with any girl, really. Combine these suggestions with the maintenance of a diverse friend group that I suggested above (an act that will stand out and aid contrast game in and of itself) and you’ll have a fighting chance.
A lot of black women (though not all, as noted above) who are approached by white males are expecting a nice but “corny” guy with none of the swagger that she’s come to appreciate in a man. Surprise her and good things will happen.
Look Overseas
Black American woman are substantially less likely to date interracially than their counterparts in other parts of the world:
The study predicts that if current trends continue, some ethnic minorities may disappear as people from mixed race backgrounds become increasingly common.
Ethnicity and Family: Relationships Within and Between Ethnic Groups was commissioned by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), which grew out of the former Commission for Race Equality.
It shows some ethnic groups are much more likely to have mixed-race relationships.Figures show 48 percent of Black Caribbean men and 34 percent of Black Caribbean women are in mixed-race relationships.
Rates of interracial dating among black Americans are substantially lower than this:
Based on the latest census data, the study showed record highs: 26 percent of Hispanics, 31 percent of Asians, 16 percent of Blacks and nine percent of Whites all married outside their race…
…”In 2008, 22 percent of all black male newlyweds married a non-black,” said Taylor.
…Only 9 percent of black women, on the other hand, married outside their race, making them the least likely of any race or gender to marry outside their race and the least likely to get married at all.
Relationships between blacks and whites are more tolerable in other parts of the Anglosphere (including the UK) than they are in much of the USA. If your goal is to meet an interested black woman as a white male, you may increase your chances of doing so by looking internationally.
The value of interracial dating is in the choice it provides those who partake in it. The ability to transcend ethnic/racial boundaries allows for an increase in the number of potentially compatible romantic options, and thus an increase in the chances of a given individual obtaining satisfaction in their own romantic lives.
Any young male concerned with self-improvement should make the development of this transcendent ability a top priority. The tips above won’t always win you the day, but you’ll be much better off with them than without.
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how to approach black women as a white male? DON’T. black women are a special kind of ‘fucked-up’. not being racial about it either so don’t get me started. black culture is what’s wrong not their skin pigment.
I had a black girlfriend in L.A. for a year or so. She was a good girl, got an affirmative action admission to one of those fancy Eastern universities. She was into computers so she was going to get this awesome government job, since it’s hard to fill the black female quota. Real nice, happy, honestly I should have married her. Yes, I said the “M” word.
The problem is though, a lot of people can’t handle the script being flipped. Black man and white woman, OK. But white man and black woman? There’s something wrong somewhere. People can’t quite put their finger on it but it’s definitely wrong. With white man and asian woman, people can rely on the old “sucky sucky long time” or “you married a fetish, not a person” slurs, but nobody knew what to make of us.
Her family were totally cool about it. I went to a couple of their parties and they were just people, nobody said a thing about me, which is to their credit. However, we always got looks walking around in L.A. Nobody would say anything but we definitely got the old double-take many times, from black men, black women, and white women. The white dudes didn’t seem to care. A black comedian at a comedy club heckled me for being together with her. What a prick. Everyone at the club laughed along with him, though.
Sometimes I wonder what our life would have been like together.
Well, frankly, fuck them.
“got an affirmative action admission to one of those fancy Eastern universities.”
Which automatically means she didn’t deserve it. She didn’t earn it. she got it to “fill a quota”. Also, the vast majority of them are so nasty and bitchy I might as well go out with the devil.
The one you met was obviously a VERY rare one.
“what the fuck is wrong with you? Sound like a frustrated mangina. You should probably attribute your failures to yourself and not project it on another race.” (you don’t deserve an original reply)
Hi Jim. You probably tried speaking to the wrong women. I am a black woman and am in the process of submitting my application for the doctorate program to 3 different schools. I just turned 26, just bought my first home and am working in my career. I am interested in dating a white man. What i am trying to say is educated black women are not RARE and we are out there searching for you men. All of my girlfriends are highly educated- we are not nasty or bitchy as the media portray us to be. We are not feminists and think we are too strong. We are out there looking. Just thought that you should know.
She probably had a higher GPA than you.
“In the mornings, before she had the chance to freshen up, she did smell pretty bad though.”
What is she a fucking dog? hahaha just proves it again that women are literally animals…
And fuck you Clarence.
Forgot the heavy BO of blacks. That is a real turn off to me, like the frizzy hair. Indian people sometimes smell like sweaty spices. That’s an issue. Maybe with Game you can find another sweetheart. Not sure marriage is really worth it though. Spinning plates seems a better goal to me.
Well, the thing is, she was a really nice person and she was aware of this. She took steps to fix it. I had no problem. But I’m telling you, first thing in the morning she definitely had that stank.
It’s funny, because I had always heard that it was a myth. RACISM RACISM blah blah blah. But as soon as I had the chance to experience it for myself, with a girl who was otherwise sweet and clean, sure enough it was right there. Not like it was a deal-breaker or anything! I liked her a lot. But damn, I had just always assumed it was some conspiracy theory.
I can vouch for the existence of that stank on some black women…..it is real.
I believe human BO is functional for something, maybe phermones and such. It seems to have been an important and practical advertisement of fitness on the hot open plains. I’m surprised you had to sleep with a black person to detect that brand.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/human-biology/body-odor2.htm
That’s because the spices they eat literally get incorporated into their body odor. That’ll happen to anyone, btw. Asafoetida does interesting things…
And what of the stench on White men and White women?
Yes, I agree. Consider the Super Bowl Cheerios commercial, the intent of which was to piss off “racists” and “bigots”. Had the ad featured a black woman married to a white man, the liberals would have been pissed off instead (except of course, for the mayor of NYC and his wife) and that’s OK.
finally someone who gets it
Am I the only one who sees a difference between ni****s that have an empty, soul-less look in the eyes and face, and other blacks (a slim minority) that have a sense of self and of personal dignity? The difference is stark to me. If you think all wiggers are better than all blacks, you should read Thomas Sowell or otherwise see the world.
“4 out of 6 women also said they were simply not attracted to white men. They felt as if they lacked good looks that they were used to, as well as confidence (swag) and sex appeal. ”
Also, 5 out of 6 white women polled said they preferred nice guys to assholes.
I thought this site was more intelligent than to take what women say at face value. Only the first part of that statement (4 out of 6 black women don’t like white guys) can really be taken seriously. The fact is that most people prefer to date within their culture. If you’re not part of that culture, then by default you are not liked, so who cares?
Don’t forget that black women are more likely to have stds. Stay far away from them.
Thank you. It is the ideology. Any group of people can fall prey to this.
US Black people = UK White people on welfare/working class crossover
Indians, Asians, pretty much any group of people of any color or creed can fall into the trap of having their culture subverted if they are manipulated. Welfare and feminism have led to ‘traps’ as people become dependent and develop self-destructive attitudes and behaviours.
Why would you want to have a relationship with a black woman. Isn’t bestiality illegal?
what the fuck is wrong with you? Sound like a frustrated mangina. You should probably attribute your failures to yourself and not project it on another race.
I agree. He also sounds like a closet racist with repressed desires for a black woman but proceeds to dehumanize them to alleviate his cognitive dissonance.
Exactly what I was thinking
Black girls can be HOT. But there are far too many horrid, disgusting, morbidly obese black single moms out there.
Girls can be HOT. But, there are far too many horrid, disgusting, morbidly obese single moms out there. (There, I fixed that for you)
Mr. Politically correct eh? Another brainwashed moron. You’ll be too stupid to understand what I just said so don’t bother.
Haha. I’d like to see your reasoning, but do what you want.
What was it you said again?, oh yeah :Black people are animals, don’t fuck them [to paraphrase]. What was hard to understand about that?
Quick joke: How do you circumcise a hillbilly?
Kick his sister under the chin.
You’ll be too stupid to understand what I just said so don’t bother.
Banned
Upvote for justice
Yeah…you pretty much went “full moron” when you started comparing interracial couples to bestiality.
Wow just wow.
I am a black woman and I have found some real gems reading ROK. It is people like you though who bring a bad name to it. Fortunately, I am not a feminist and do not judge all men according to one ignorant, thoughtless and extremely hateful comment.
Nice to hear you like RoK. Dont let his comment get to you, trolls come and visit here all the time.
Personally, as a white guy I have found most Black women to be very approachable people.
WTF is wrong with you? Do you even have a brain? This isn’t white knight behaviour – what you are saying doesn’t even have a nugget of truth; all women of all creeds and races are capable of acting like beasts, or the most gracious of women. You obviously have a lack of real world experience. That is so not cool – how can you even claim to have a pair? Why don’t you sack up and act like an adult?
racist cunt
You can’t claim to be Traditional and promote Race Mixing.
Love Your Race.
History has been filled with example with race-mixing. Loving your race doesn’t mean anything, in my opinion. Culture matters much more than skin pigmentation.
hell, if you love your race you will look to purposely screw women of other races, since it is a scientifically-proven fact that mixing genes benefits the population over the long term. the elephant in the room, though, is how to find people of other races that aren’t fucked up in the head. that’ll take some digging i reckon, particularly with blacks. sorry but ghetto culture is not conducive to healthy relationships.
Ghetto culture is not at all conducive to healthy relationships, in the same way that white trailer trash culture isn’t conducive to healthy relationships either. Overall, marry foreign and avoid the cesspool that is the American relationship scene
seconded.
You seem to making an assumption that all blacks are from the ghetto. Is that really what you think?
Come on now if mixing was beneficial then we would all be wanting to emigrate to Brazil, Mexico and india.
don’t be daft, of course i know that not all blacks are ghetto thugs and obese women on welfare. these are mere stereotypes. problem is that (just like with feminism) the shittiest people are also the loudest. and these bad apples are spoiling the whole bunch.
well maybe not india..but south america is pretty attractive to americans that want to rediscover what an unspoiled woman behaves like. wasn’t there an article extolling brasilian women like a week ago?
To emigrate to a country solely for the women would be a big risk. Brazil, Mexico, and India have massive problems with their governments and infrastructure. You can visit and live well there, but it will take some active effort on your part to make yourself comfortable. Most people are not ready to take the risk of doing that. Probably explains the low emigration numbers.
India is a great place to find women, especially the conservative housewife who’s virtues are extolled on this website. Problem is that most everything else over there sucks. I should know, I was born there.
to each his own. i personally dislike indian women.
you miss my point, I mean to say that despite better resources earlier start south America and India are shithole compared to north America because in North America the white race remained pure. Race is the single biggest indicator of nearly everything important that is why it is the most suppressed and heretical truth.
Also Brazil and rest of S.A only have had 300 years of mixing over time they will become like India.
Mate, maybe be clearer with what you say before calling other people “daft”. I was merely asking for clarification. There are plenty of racists commenting on here and I was trying to understand your point. I can only know what you think by what you say.
I agree that being “ghetto” is not at all attractive but I don’t think this is peculiar to black people. Really I see it as an aspect of an underclass created by welfare. You see the same thing here in the UK but these types are mostly white.
By white race, I think you mean to say, European culture? India, and S.A. would have been much better if Europe hadn’t got involved. That’s history and it been done and gone, but the white race has nothing to do with it. Color isn’t the issue.
ah yes the famous chavs..remember though that chavs are a byproduct of this ghetto culture i’m crucifying here. everybody thought that acting (not being, just acting!) black was the dog’s bollocks so they just ran with it. with these half-hilarious half-grotesque consequences.
Yeah india under Muslim rule with no more than 50 million population over a subcontinent due to piss poor healthcare and South America with cannibalistic stone age naked dudes who did not even know about metal work.
yeah I do think that would have been great.
It sounds like you’re trying to say that European Conquest was good for these nations? It wasn’t. India under Muslim rule was India’s problem, not Europe’s. Same thing with S.A. cannibals. Their problem, not Europe’s
“India and S.A. would have been much better if Europe hadn’t got involved.”
Really? So South America would somehow be better today if those darn Europeans had left them to their Aztec human sacrificing ways?
Oh please.
Well actually they kind of do. Blacks come from Africa originally. Africa is like one giant ghetto.
Better in that millions wouldn’t have died because of European diseases, European greed, and European conquest. They might be worse off today than they are, but at least they would be able to make their own decisions. Yes, that is better
One of most ignorant comments I’ve read on this website. Educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself
I am not talking about chavs. This “ghetto” mentality or whatever you want to call it pre-dates so-called “cool black guys”. Notwithstanding the fact that the term ghetto is actually derived from the areas that Jews were forced to live in from the Middle Ages onwards. But by “ghetto” mentality I am talking about the unfortunately ignorant and aggressive attitude displayed by many people from poor backgrounds. This is not unique or inspired by black people.
yeah, better to be poor in a rich country than try to remain rich in a poor country that has absolutely no safety net….
on balance if you want to maintain US/EU standards in places where extended families of 10 or more live in tin huts, you will find it more expensive in long run, loaded with hidden costs, time consuming and complicated to get things you take for granted in developed countries… mail order / paypal and low price for example….
the other thing is you get tired of being treated like you are some kind of royalty with a bottomless wallet… you can have networth $100M in the US, and still be able to live normally, but in these places if you earn more than a few thousand a month and maintain a US.EU standard of living you’re considered ultra rich, and that carriers hassles, risks and a whole dynamic that is largely unpleasant.
By logical extension then, all so-called races come from the ghetto.
Mayans had a better mathematics than Europeans at the point of initial contact between the two sets of people.
The Mayans were also much more advanced than historians give them credit for. But sadly, history is written by the victors.
Take an Indian woman over a Black one.
Maybe not from, but mentally maybe like 98% are.
perhaps if you can always stay dominate. If you act alittle beta the indian woman will chew you out.(known some guys whipped harder then American girl would do to them). Its no secret the bitching and drama they bring in will be too much.
Id rather get the latin girl, less drama,less body hair and more curves.
I know I got both of them in the family.
Everyone comes from Africa originally. What is your point?
Fallacy one: You talk as if culture is a costume or a creed rather it is the collective expression of a race.
Fallacy two: race is much more than skin colour(std. liberal dishonesty). skin colour is only the most obvious difference.
Understood, maybe I should have been more clear. Culture, especially in America, is mostly homogeneous. It is the skin color that divides most of us.
There is no culture in America unless you count Political correctness as one.
Depends on your definition of culture
Near as I can tell there are 7 maybe 8 major cultures in the US, with dozens of sub cultural offshoots.
Decadence, ignorance, entitlement, extreme consumerism. These are things all Americans have in common across all skin colors.
I think two can work perfectly fine.
The word “traditional” is literally nowhere in this entire article. Try reading it. It’s just a write up on tips to hook up with black girls. Don’t try to make it something it’s not.
Traditional in regards to sex roles… I believe being a racist fuck is a tradition we’ve been trying to forget for sometime now.
I just accept race mixing….as long as it’s in mixed race countries, like the United States of America.
But we white people need a homeland of our own – like Israel for the Jews, Saudi Arabia for Arabs, etc. – which would not be mixed race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74LozUlvgB4
why would you be upset about race mixing didn’t you whites take it on
a mass scale when colonizing the world like in asia, Africa, Americas and the oceania? That race mixing gave us the super sexy Latinas. You cant hate on something you just started. Or are you secretly upset that this time ethnic men are finally touching the forbidden fruit that is white women?
The simple fact that the best women in the world are not white means you are missing on a hell of a lot.
Oh well, more for me.
Best being a completely subjective term. I do recall a study done a long time ago where faces were ranked according to beauty and pretty much world over I recall white people being ranked the prettiest.
Source?
…Except you don’t need to be believe in “race purity” in order to be believe in traditional relationships. They’re two completely separate matters. I argue with this site, and even I know the difference.
That’s something that insane genocidal communist/communitarian marxists want to shove down your throat. Still race mixing is fine, but economic incentives (tax breaks etc..) should be used to encourage more white couples to have children, otherwise the racial balance would be grossly distorted. And this should be done even if nonwhites have an issue with this, as race is important to some and an awareness of the need to be accountable to this group and a need to preserve the future diversity of the species as a whole should be encouraged.
The only real problem is that the culture in the west has changed from its traditional origins to one of feminazism, whoredom etc.. Most white educated women don’t want children at all. So even with better incentives, it may be the case that whites would still diminish in number as the ideology for all women in Western society, irrespective of race, is to be a mindless consumer who destroys the family unit based on their solipsism.
How to approach black woman as a white male? Social status, social status, social status
As a black guy. I found it hard to accept the extent of the modern black woman’s hypergamous nature. If you’re white, let your money and/or fame do the talking for you. The woman in Africa, or atleast the Southern Region believe the stereotype that all white guys(European and North American descent) are wealthy therefore you’ll fit perfectly with their hypergamous nature. In fact the white guys I knew who had “jungle fever” do really well
Not to mention that there is still an inferiority complex in the minds of many black people.
Hmm…I wonder why??? /sarcasm
It shouldn’t be accepted as normal though.
Damn real dude! A black man has to give the perception that he has cash and social status to bag the TYPICAL modern black woman. I dated a black (“high yellow”) girl last summer that worked for the Federal gov’t and all she talked about was positions, trips and income. She was fine as hell, but I couldn’t deal with it.
You’re in DC? No wonder you’ve had problems (no wonder thats all she talked about). DC women are awful.
Well I can’t speak to this attitude, but I can speak for why I choose to primarily date outside of my race. I don’t want to be a pit stop to a white woman. It takes a lot to be confident and to love and cherish yourself as a black woman. The media typically only seeks to show unattractive, loud, boisterous ghetto women, the world internalizes it as all black women “must” be like that, and then you have your own black men perpetuating the stereotype by saying so.
I will never forget I was in high school and this black guy I had class with all 4 years had said that the reason he didn’t like black girls was because we were all “loud, obnoxious, ghetto, and weave wearers;” and that hurt because including myself, there were 2 other black girls in our class who didn’t wear weaves, had naturally medium to long hair, and we weren’t ghetto (we were suburban for christs sake!)
What’s worse, his ex gf was a beautiful, NATURALLY beautiful black girl with naturally long hair, and she was so smart, funny, down to earth, no drama…that’s by far the WORST thing about black men, is that you can be everything they say they want but yet they’ll pass you up for a white woman and cite that its because “all black women are the same: loud, ghetto, and weave wearers.”
Needless to say, I’ve moved on to dating outside of my race and his ex…yeah she’s with a white guy.
I know not all black men are like this but when all you see are ballers, rappers, actors, and black men all over the blogosphere trashing black women or trading them in for white women its hard to separate it. And to be honest, I’m terrified to date black men. I want to be cherished too, I want to be considered beautiful too, and I want to know that the man I’m with is ecstatic and proud to be seen with me. The last thing I want to know is that I’m just a placeholder for a white woman, especially when I know I have a lot of love to give.
So that’s why I tend to stay away from black men.
wow jungle fever, racist like you need to be sterilized?
That works for all non-Black women, if we are are following your logic.
Seems to me that some of the most attractive black women only date white men. Black women that look like Monica Raymund, Zoe Saldana or Denise Vasi (look them up, they’re gorgeous) do not give black men the time of day. When you see a white man with a black woman, she is usually really hot.
True, but celebrity culture isn’t really representative of the general public.
True, but I am speaking of a certain type of black woman here, not black women in general.
In my experience the type of black women that hang with interracial friends are hotter (and thinner) and do not give black guys the time of day. This is a key indicator of her attitude because black women in general tend to insist on an all black crowd and go to all black venues. In addition, their mannerisms are different from general black women. In short, I can almost look at a black woman and tell you if she’s not into black men.
These types of black women are usually even MORE hostile to me (I am black) than any non-black woman. I suppose they figure that with them being black, they have to send stronger signals that they are NOT interested in black men (because the assumption that they’d be interested in black men)
Let me also add that these types of women tend to be very highly educated and have traveled much more than the average black woman
True. The fact that the girl tends to hang out with a diverse crowd is indicative of her openness to try new things and interact with different people. But her hostility to you seems misplaced, especially if she is open-minded enough to hangout with a diverse crowd. Maybe she might be ostracized and chastised for being diverse in the first place by most black people and tend to think that you are ‘business as usual?’
To be honest, I’ve never really tried to get to the bottom of it. I just keep moving to the next one, but it is something I have definitely noticed over my years of experience. Besides their being hotter, I am attracted to their mannerisms (I like educated, well traveled women that are not loud and aggressive).
But “diverse crowd” here usually means mostly white, with perhaps an Asian, and a Latino thrown in. The entire group is usually into white men (including the Asian, Latino and black girl).
I think the hostility is not fear of being chastised but more, “hey pal, don’t think that I’m into black guys just because I’m black”
Another thing I have noticed is that Ethiopian are into white men as well. I don’t know what the deal is with that either.
Eh, she probably just likes white men then. Not a big deal.
My point exactly. There are many beautiful, well educated, well spoken black women that are into white men. I was simply bolstering the author’s original point about black women that hang with diverse crowds. I was just adding my own experience with them as black men.
And thank you for doing so. I was able to have a meaningful discussion with a person
I think you are talking about (partially?) black women who have the strategy of adopting white culture because whites are more successful and essentially the definition of Western. I think you can present yourself as white culture Western and get white culture Western black women. You will need white world DHV. Maybe she equates being white as white world DHV due to her background. Plenty of hot white chicks want big black dick, so we both know your difficulties are more than compensated on the whole. Sounds like you don’t have oneities, which is all a guy can do.
Somewhat off topic but I have noticed that women are often cold or even hostile to men they are not interested in. I suppose they are doing us a service by letting us know not to waste our time from the get-go, but it doesn’t help our self-esteem much.
We just have to be more jaded and understand that it’s their loss, not ours.
LOL, your a joke, read the article black women marry outside their race at the lowest rate. There are a few mulattos who prefer to date whoever comes first at its often a white man and that is from pre-selection (less whites in black majority areas = less mulatto in black majority area) as her parents won’t be living in the hood if one white and one black. Just like Robin Thicke and his wife. They knew each other from highschool, its not a prejudice against black.
Um, I don’t think you actually read my comments. I am NOT speaking of ‘typical’ black women. I am speaking of the types that hang in diverse crowds
Speaking as a black man I have found women of all types can be hostile to me. The most hostile have been American White women. Not sure why the light skin chicks are hostile to you but I have found with some girls, light skin and dark skin, ghetto chicks and college girls, they are hostile because they are scared of being hurt. Easier to discourage you than deal with the possibility that you will leave after getting what you want. I have found I could disarm that hostility by calling their bluff and giving them a little something back.
To clarify, it is not ‘light skinned chicks’, it is black women (light-skinned or not) *that hang in diverse crowds*. THAT is the distinction I am trying to make. I just happened to list some gorgeous light-skinned celebrities that are into white men
I am black too and yes all types of women can be hostile. But in my personal experience, while white women (even when not interested in me) will at least be polite and carry on a nice conversation, their black friend will not give me the time of day. I don’t know, but I figure they feel that they must send strong signals that she’s only into white dudes. (I know they’re into white dudes because I consistently see them later with one)
Now, I don’t have a problem with a black woman being into white men and I can appreciate honesty. In fact there was one situation where I approached a beautiful black woman that was with some white females. She smiled after I introduced myself and said, “I’m only looking for white guys”. We both laughed and I was on my way. It was cool. No need for harsh “how dare you try to talk to me” looks. I appreciated the honesty.
Well, there is a reason for it. When we try to be nice, you guys get the wrong impression.
I try to be nice, yet firm.
I appreciate nice but firm. But outright rudeness is not acceptable. But my point was that a little hostility does not mean the girl is not interested. Sometimes she is intimidated. But you can tell the difference between that and a girl who just doesn’t want to talk to you.
Mulattos? Did you grow up in 19th Century America with Negros and Red Indians? Weirdo!
Yes, negros, red indians and honkies
Right, there is no reason to be rude to a man if he has approached you respectfully. Those type of women need home training.
that bitch aint black wtf wake da fuck up she is not black dat bitch cleary white she is not my race
and there sellouts and white wash
all black women are sellouts
she a sellout brainwashed by honkeys
you are so right that i was only sisters say they want a good brother he we are they still selling out black women are biggest sellout ever talking bout they been loyal to us black men
there sellouts all black women i give up on this generation
Maybe its because you just tried to hit on their “white” friend in front of them and now they see you’ve suddenly developed an interest in them.
Look to be honest, I understand you were just sharing your own experience but it seems like you’re quite bent on showing all black women in a bad light. That’s not cool. I know for me, I am incredibly selective in who I date. I don’t consider just any black man because nowadays you have to be prepared that the black man will reject you because you aren’t white…or will trade you in for a white girl first chance they get. I have to deal with that possibility with white men all the time, but I refuse to be some temporary, racial conquest by my own men.
The fact that you seem–and maybe this is not your intention–but it does read like you’re intent on making all black women seem hostile and unflattering, and I’d be willing to bet that perhaps the reason you have a hard time with black women is because they pick up on the stereotypical view points you have on them.
As a black woman, who is use to being stereotyped by men outside of my race AND men in my race, I can tell you I’m very good at sensing the type of men that do this.
I think when it comes to interracial dating, black women have to worry about being a sexual experiment. But judging from your comment, it seems like black men aren’t put off by being just a sexual escapade for a white woman–a white woman looking to try “bbc” not trying to be vulgar here.
@ Mallory
Let me be clear here:
a) I was referring to black women *that are into white guys* when speaking of the hostility I have personally experienced. (Read my comment again) I was certainly not speaking of all black women.
b) In many cases I’m only being friendly and flirting. I flirt all the time with women (of all races) that I am NOT interested in (nor are they interested in me). So, in many cases, I’m not interested in the white girl or her black friend. I’m just having some fun. Most women (of all races – including black women) understand that. It’s just that the black woman (that is interested in white men) puts up a huge wall – at least for me and my friends.
So to reiterate, in my own experience, when I see a black woman hanging with a group of white women, she is usually into white guys (no problem with me there) but many seem to have to put up an extra barrier to black men. [NOTE: the opposite tends to be true too. A white woman hanging with a group of black women tends to be open to black men]
I honestly think that they do this because they just don’t want to waste time or repel potential white men. Black men that are only into white women that do the same thing to black women (I’ve seen it).
You made an interesting point above about yourself that made me think. Black women that ARE into black men, seem to feel that they must protect themselves and their radar for a guy that dates outside is very strong.
In other words, they pick up that a guy like me dates women of all races, and I suspect that they already know that I am that “type”. But many mistake willingness to date non-black women with refusal to date black women. I am NOT one of those.
That’s not what I was saying. I cannot speak for every black woman that chooses to date outside of her race, but for me I don’t see a reason to resent a black man for dating outside of his race if I’m doing the same. The only issue I see with interracial dating is when a man or woman completely rejects their own race.
It is unfortunate that you feel that black woman who are interested in dating white men exclusively, would have such a reaction to you.
However, my response to you was a simple reaction to the example you gave about hitting on the girl’s friend in front of her. Now granted you say you have had other times where black women, that are “exclusively” into dating white men, have had similar rude reactions; BUT in that circumstance, I think it would be fair to say that the lady’s response had more to do with seeing you flirt with her friend. I think this is more of byproduct of being a woman more than anything else…fear of being an object or some sexual plaything to a man…and flirting with one friend, to the next friend can certainly illicit that feeling.
Now when I said I can sense a “type” of man…I was referring to the “type” of man that rejects dating within his race in exchange for exclusively dating outside of his race. I do believe most black women, are able to easily sense this type of man as well. I do not think it is as you put it, sensing the type of man that would just generally be opened to dating outside of his race. One can be open minded to exploring other races and cultures and still have a love and acceptance for their own people. I personally would not have a problem with a man like that; but the former type of man…the one that rejects his own people–women who look like his mother and sister–I can sense that and a lot of other sistas can sense that too.
It doesn’t, however read like this is the type of impression you give off…so my original comment stands to be corrected. So I apologize.
Anyway, best wishes to you in love and relationships. I suppose it is far better to have someone tell you straight from the start their preferences than to have someone lead you on.
I knew what you meant by “type”. All I was saying is that I think that I may be mistaken for that ‘type’ by more than a few.
But to your earlier point about flirting, I can flirt with a group of black women and it’s not a problem like that. Same with a group of white women. When I “hit on” a woman (i.e., so true interest) I have enough decency to not go after her friend if I fail with her.
Well that’s good then, sorry if I offended you. It just read to me like that was the situation, you hit on the friend and then hit on her and I thought maybe that was the reasoning for her response. But if that is not the case and it is the way you say things are, that is truly unfortunate. It’s always a shame when people reject their own race, be open minded to dating outside of your race, fine, but don’t reject where you come from.
FYI, I wasn’t offended
They don’t want the schmuck to get any notions.
Would you even want those women if they weren’t with white men ? You seem to value that they are with white men. Because black men have the most access to black women and there are a variety of black women who are ignored by black men
….until a white man wants them. Black males value whiteness whether in the form of a man or a woman. It is a validation to yall.
Not at all. I am drawn to women because they are attractive.
yes it is black women are dumb to follow the trend celerbrity or not
None of those girls are exactly Nordic. None of them are exactly black either. Here, for instance, is a picture of Monica’s dad:
http://www.businessobserverfl.com/images/uploads/articles/cache/MAINSteve_Raymund_HighResPhoto-257×351.jpg
Yeah, I get it but the point still holds. There are some beautiful women (that are categorized as ‘black’) that are exclusively interested in white men.
And the women are still very beautiful. BTW, Aaron Rodgers is dating Jessica Szohr (who is the same type I’m referring to)
” . . .the same type I’m referring to . . .”
. . . one blackish grandparent.
A dash of Caribe a plus ( the first three girls you mentioned are all Dominican/Puerto Rican).
Yes, mixed race women, when all goes right, can be stunning. I’m rather partial to Rus with Mongoloid features myself.
But that really isn’t what this article is about.
They might be categorized as black in the US but the reality is the vast majority of attractive “black women” are actually mixed(usually half white but not always). If you think they have the same taste and respond to the same game as regular black girls your doing it wrong.
My point is that they do NOT have the same tastes and do NOT respond to the same game as regular black women. They (including those with less “mixture”) are typically just not interested in black guys. Many of the women pictured above in the article (e.g. the one at the top, the one in the wedding dress, and the one in the grey shirt) are attractive and are typical of the types that I would judge to not be into black men if they were sitting in a “diverse” crowd.
My basic point is that there are beautiful women that would be considered “black” that are into white men (and ONLY into white men).
Additionally, Ethiopian women tend to be more into white men as well.
You are American.
That is correct. I assume that this is an American based forum? (Correct me if I’m wrong)
You often see white guys with wives that look like Paula Patton or Denice Vasi bragging that they have a “black wife”
I think we are really all in agreement on liking tempered black. However, black Americans ARE tempered blacks to varying degrees. White slave owners enjoyed themselves AND got new slaves from the deal in America. The British in Jamaica put mixed offspring into a middle social class, and chattel slavery died there first by about 30 years. We don’t know the exact correlation between genetic whiteness in black Americans and behavior/values, but we do know that there is undetermined potential from white DNA. In the end, we watch how she walks and talks to judge. Like white women, black women who identify more with group identity than individual identity carry the issues and opportunities of that subculture. I don’t let race bother me. The value in women at large is so small and you can’t be with a demographic like you can be with a women who is with you. Again, I think we all see the same thing but are just making it see different in the expression.
“You are American.” You are behind the curve if that is your identity. There is no in-group America. It is balkanized cannibalilsm at this point per cultural Marxism. America for all intents and purposes is dead, and so is the American identity. Only nice guy suckers still cling to being ‘American’, and they are liquidating first and won’t be representative of anything in the not-so-distant future. I suppose we are all the human race, but mortal life is a race condition with conflict. Cooperation is only useful in the context of winning at conflict, partially or totally. Dark Enlightenment.
“”You are American.”
There is no “me” in “You.”
“There is no in-group America. It is balkanized cannibalilsm at this
point per cultural Marxism.”
There is no masculinism in Liberal, global diversity cultural Marxism.
Typically, how have you ascertained that? Your judgements are completely at odds with my experience.
I’m only speaking from my own experience. No absolutes here. I have personally found that black women that hang in diverse crowds tend to not be into black men.
Fair enough.
So, pretty much the ones that are closest to white. What’s new?
No. All my friends that are in relationships with black girls are in relationships with really black girls. Also I don’t think I know any black women that light skinned. Heck my friends half white daughter is darker than all but one of the girls in the above pictures.
or partial hispanic (particularly the Puerto Ricans).
Your observations are correct, if a black women gets any attention from a white male she will date one usually. I honestly believe well over 90% of black women would date white men if they could and if white men took them seriously. If you go on those dating sites, just to browse there are hundreds of attractive black women that are seeking white men.
fucking sellouts to honkeys
because there sellouts
all black girls are sellouts to honkeys been happening since slavery
Considering when most white men date black women they go for the darkest and not lightest black women , you protest a little too much here. All features stem from Africa. So you are trying to make this a mixed women look better thing when all you are really saying is AFRICAN women look better. All features found around the world can be found in Africa. Hence why the continent is known for having the most diversity. You want to make this a black woman is ugly thing. FAIL .
True, but the goal is to have a desirable woman. I think white men recognize that tempered black gets better hair, better facial structure, better natural disposition (I’m touching on mental attributes here in rudimentary terms as high intellect can be hazardous but blazing tribal stupidity is worse) and still get the booty, openness about sexual discussion as a topic, and escape from SWPL paralysis. Monica Raymund looks plenty good to me.
Aside: Dr Caveman seems right on to me, go for the educated (yet not white feminist types by definition) type. I will handle that shit test now. Not too often I get it, and hadn’t figured it out, but the frame itself as the trap makes perfect sense to me.
Caveat: Tempered black open the possibility of the propagandic multicultural diversity identity that can be worn on the sleeve. Stay away from those. All women are selfish individuals, perfectly natural but feral, but most women have internalized the PC superficiality of diversity as high status, and some mixes are living it, requiring constant evidence of being part of a recognized and superlative demographic group. A woman’s reassurance has to come from your masculinity as always, or she is a liability to be avoided, as always.
“Monica Raymund looks plenty good to me.”
She looks pretty good to me as well, but then I like Jewish Latinos.
If you’re going to consider her Black you’re going to have to substitute “Black” every time you read “Brazilian” or “Mexican.”
She’s about as Black as Linda Ronstadt.
I’m not making a scientific survey here. She looked like she had some black heritage. Blacks were not used in Mexico, so most Mexicans are not black. Brazillians are substantially black. Hispanics/Latinos (except Mexicans) are white, red, and black. I will be sure to ask for genetic testing as a prerequisite for applying Game. I like some booty and I believe that is usually from black heritage. Check out who does and does not get sickle cell anemia and you will know who is black and relatively how much. I don’t care. I know what I like when I see it. Since I don’t have control over culture or religion, I will take what value I can get as a selfish individual bound by the system.
I used to live on the Oaxacan coast (and the Andalusian coast for that matter). Things are not quite as cut and dried as you seem think.
“Hispanics/Latinos (except Mexicans) are white, red, and black. ”
As I have already noted.
Is this article about gaming white/red/black Latinos?
Is this the kfg I know and love? This voice is globalist utopian. Discrimination is a fact of life. Difference is a fact of life. The interpretations can be argued, except the interpretation of no differences. I’m done with this dialog.
Is this the same ‘Reality’ Doug who wrote the Cosmopolitan post below?
Nope, Africans were brought to Mexico, as a matter of fact, they went to EVERY country in the Americas:
Read here about the first free town in the Americas,
Gaspar Yanga.
http://www.blackhistoryheroes.com/2011/05/gaspar-yanga-1570-african-slave-revolt.html
More on Mexico’s blacks:
http://moreintelligentlife.com/content/places/alexis-okeowo/black-mexicans
Edify yourself.
Looks like blacks escaped to what is Mexico today like they escaped to Canada, except they did it from ships in port on the way to somewhere that black slaves were used. I still believe “most Mexicans are not black.” Interesting history. I think my generalizations are valid. Funny how the relative genetic proportions corrolate with relative prosperity and sophistication by nation. Generalizations go out the window when evaluating a single woman because there is specific information there.
No, the town freed by Gaspar Yanga had nothing to do with slaves escaping from the thirteen colonies. The Spaniards imported African slaves in to Mexico. Note that the town was established in 1570, more than two hundred years before the US even existed.
Is this why everyone is jawflapping about the novelty that is Lupita Nyongo?
yeah he makes it sound like the reason there aren’t a lot of black women with white guys is because the black girls aren’t interested. He fails to mention that the majority of black women have absolutely terrible personalities (ghetto, loud, attitude). You couple this with the fact that white people are the most likely to only want to date within their race and you realize. You want to date a black girl? Learn to get over her(most likely) terrible personality. There are exceptions,but that’s pretty accurate.
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
That’s an okcupid study that shows black women are actually the most open to other races and least desired of all races.
I realize that I could seem like a guy who’s not that into black girls, but that not the case, I love their curves and asses. I have been with a lot of black women, in the states and outside the states, and if anything black women are the easiest race for me to hook up with. The trick is finding a black girl in the states who doesn’t pick up on “how she is supposed to act” from tv and movies. The reason you see black girls with white guys outside the states, is because their personalities are 10x better on average.
Not every black woman in the states has a bad attitude.
Just 9/10. Bad attitude doesn’t just mean they are loud.
It could mean they aren’t submissive or they get obnoxious when they are mad.
um, none of these women are black
i guess dats what we gotta do they sellouts least white women worshis us unlike these sellout oreo sisters
once again, naming mixed women
In the US, black women tend to fall in one of three categories: ghetto trash, religious nuts and smart educated girls. Focus on the latter ones, obviously.
Day game universities or find them in online dating if you are a tall, educated white guy.
I’ve dated several black women – at some point she is going to ask the race question (have you dated many black girls, do you like black girls etc). Best answer that worked for me is saying that I don’t give a shit about race but just like slim, dark haired women. Treat race as a non-issue, tease her with being a racist if she presses you (black girl hamster rocket fuel!)
British and European black women, dependent on where you are, can be some of the most attractive, intelligent and elegant women around. I wouldn’t mind dating one, though I have a preference for Caucasian women, though lately, I have gravitated only towards EE/Asians as I feel they make better GF material.
All women can be beautiful, and all can be a right pain. The one thing I have learned is that the indoctrination (read culture) can make a huge difference. And it is true that if your luck is not panning out in one country, you could be having a great time with the women in another. I think more men should try dating interracially and more men should take the opportunity to go abroad and date – you don’t know what you’re missing out on if you haven’t done this.
I once got a lapdance from a british stripper. Agree with u seth.
Hey are you single? Do you have any preference for asians?!!
Yes they are delicious
HELL YES I LOVE THIS ARTICLE! I AM A WHITE MAN WHO HATES WHITE WOMEN BUT YOU GIVE ME A HOT BLACK WOMAN AND I CAN ROCK OUT LIKE RAMBO ALL NIGHT LONG WITH HER!
I GOT THE MOTHERFUCKING JUNGLE FEVER AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT TURNS ME ON MORE THAN A SEXY BLACK WOMAN! I JUST WANNA SLAM MY COCK INTO THAT BLACK PUSSY AND MAKE HER ROAR IN DIVINE HEAVENLY ORGASMIC BLISS!!!
hurr durr me gonna troll’em good hurr durr
I ain’t trolling, dawg. I got a massive fetish or taste for black and dark skinned women.I can fuck a black woman and cum 4 or 5 times in a 12 hour period. Whereas with a white woman, I cannot even get an erection.
you do realise that all-caps posts scream ‘troll’, right? what ever happened to that cunt ‘maureen’ anyway hehe..
Pablo aka Maureen got Banned by Quintus on the other article. Guess we will wait until he finds another library PC on a different IP range to troll us from.
Diversity is a beautiful thing. More choice? Yes please. Race is not an issue, at least not as much as proper behavior and culture. Taste all the colors of the rainbow and speak from experience, not preconceived notions. This race issue has been beaten to death in many corners on the internet. ROK is a site for smart people, enlightened people. And frankly, it is unbecoming of a proper man to speak ill of something without actually experiencing it. White, Black, Brown, Yellow. Try them all and then decide. And don’t, for fucks sake, discriminate due to your personal failures and limitations. Sour grapes, anyone?
Thank the Lord Hallelujah!!!! 🙂
Black girls are for sex. Do not attempt to marry them or it will end in regret.
It really depends if by black, you mean African-American or really African. Because most African women are raised properly with good values and would make excellent wives
to me it goes like this:
Black from Africa–African and likely a reasonable human being.
Black from America — likely an entitled cunt.
Girl from America — likely an entitled cunt
Multiplier effect:
Black ‘Girl’ from Murika–doubly likely an entitlement cunt.
Jewish-Muslim transexual lesbian black woman raised by two homosexual men on welfare and working currently for a green energy company funded by taxpayer dollars–infinitely likely an entitlement cunt.
Damn man, I can’t even imagine what a “Jewish-Muslim transexual lesbian black woman raised by two homosexual men on welfare and working currently for a green energy company funded by taxpayer dollars” would be like. And I’d rather not find out haha
Thank you for pointing this out.
No problem. I’ve interacted with a lot of African people and they’ve all been wonderful.
Though I have a great preference for Latinas and Nordic women, some of the Black American women can blow pretty much every other group out of the water,when they got it going on.But they are very rare.The greatest turn off is when they act ‘sassy’,second is pulling the racial victim card.They tend to way overdo it .
The whole “strong, independent black woman” is a big turn-off
Only cus you are beta.
It is a turn off unless its backed up by them ACTUALLY being strong and independent.
Exactly. Most of them aren’t. They use it as an excuse to walk all over men but at the end of the day, they’re still dependent on a man.
I call bullshit most of us are.
Maybe if you stopped bashing and stereotypingthem then they could be calm and feminine like the women you treat well.
I think there’s more to the issues. There are few attractive African American women, in terms of looks. Feminism is a big perpetrator in the black community, causing more unnecessary “strong independent black womyn” and turning beautiful women into fat, blabbering sluts. I’d say if an American black woman saw past feminism and lost the fat and the attitude, we’d all be more inclined to procreate with her.
But as it stands, black women are not viable for marriage. African women, maybe, but not African American women.
We can all thank LBJ and his “great society” and making welfare contingent upon fatherlessness for instigating that situation.
The best choices of black women come from countries where the racial tension between white and black is low. They are open and curious, and you can treat them like any other girls. Plus, they’re usually not feminists.
I love me some dark meat. Good article. Swag is definitely important.
It’s sad to see so much narrow minded comments hating on black chicks here.
@Jack D: “You can’t claim to be Traditional and promote Race Mixing.
Love Your Race.” What stupid crap.
Relevant: 5 Reasons to have an African Girlfriend: http://naughtynomad.com/2011/09/23/5-reasons-to-have-an-african-girlfriend/
Most of those reasons are actually quite insulting…
One thing I’ve always wondered:
Black mothers’ incubation time for babies is only eight months (it’s nine months for white women, and about nine and a half for East Asian women). So what happens with mixed race babies? Do they incubate for eight and a half months?
I know that IQ tends to be the average of the two races (so about 93). What about incubation time?
Source?
for what
The incubation time
Hm, I thought it was common knowledge. Just Googled it, here’s one study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8438913
(Note that you have to denote “East Asian” to see the longer gestation period for them. South Asian women are also right around nine months.)
Thank you
WTF?!
Black women from other countries are often ok, but African American women are the worst. African American women are usually shrill, obnoxious and entitled.
Black American women vs. African or black Latin women is the black version of white English-speaking women vs. European or white Latin women. I guess being English-speaking turns your women to sh!t regardless of race.
Jamaican women are cool. They are english speaking.
One example of what not to do is this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/de-blasio-wife-chirlane-mccray-talks-lesbian-article-1.1339398
“Lesbian woman falls in “love” with a wealthy man”
Colour me surprised.
Well that wealthy man is now mayor of New York City, and he’s as beta and PC as they come.
“Fully supports Planned Parenthood, even considering giving them subsidies to establish more abortion clinics”
“Supports universal prekindergarten (to indoctrinate the kiddies earlier)”
“Won’t march in the city’s most famous parade (St. Paddys) because they won’t ‘support gay rights’ (I kid you not)”
His father left him at an early age. It seems his mayoral run is going to be attention-whoring and pandering. He’s a pussy/mangina if I ever saw one.
I don’t support race mixing….but I believe all life is sacred, and I have advice for any whites with black girlfriends: be safe. Blacks routinely get violent when they see white men with their women (understandably so – I don’t like the reverse, either).
There are many tragic tales of murder and assault, but the brutal slaying of Jan Pieterzak might be among the most horrific: http://www.amren.com/news/2013/06/two-ex-marines-sentenced-to-death-after-they-raped-iraq-vets-wife-in-front-of-him-and-then-shot-couple-in-the-head/
Bottom line: black males do not like seeing their women folk giving themselves mind, body, and soul to a white man anymore than a white man would want to see a white woman giving herself to an African. The difference is white men no longer respond violenly (as they once did) but blacks will.
Decades of conditioning is having its effect on the white man. He is now much more accepting of BM/WF miscegenation and will readily accept the multiracial offspring as part of his group even here at Amren (look at the comments).
As I see it, most white men today are weak metrosexuals who immediately bow down to the African as his superior.
As I see it, most white men today are weak metrosexuals who immediately bow down to the African as his superior.”
Wow. The sheer idiocy of this statement.
“As I see it, most white men today are weak metrosexuals who immediately bow down to (white women) as his superior.”
FTFY. White Nationalists are always White Knights extraordinaire.
Black men DON’T CARE if Black women have interracial relationships. WE DON’T CARE. Only white men care about that sort of thing because a lot of white men are raised to be secretly racist. I have white men and women in my family due to interracial relationships and NOBODY in my FAMILY CARES. Most black people don’t care about preserving the “Black” race like whites care about preserving the “White” race.
Okay but why don’t you speak for yourself, though? Why do people always start this “We” business as if you know every Black male in the world.
How do you “not care” but post on an article that has nothing to do with you as a black male and everything to do with black women with white men ? In fact, so many of you are all over this post commenting. You clearly DO care.
I really don’t understand why you should worry whether ” she is not going to be comfortable with the idea of being an experiment for a random horny guy”. Who cares? Either you manage to seduce her or you fail. What is wrong with merely wanting to sample some pussy variety? Isn’t this site supposed to be aimed at alpha males? (or those at least aspiring to be alpha)
“Either you manage to seduce her or you fail.”
And you don’t think her finding you creepy as fuck has an influence on your ability to fuck her?
If you don’t, calling you an “alpha asshole” would only be half right.
American black women are usually disgusting here in Chicago. I would go as far as Mexican color wise.
Lmao.
I want an article on how to get a hairstyle like that dude in the banner pic.
I’ve noticed black girls are tremendously easy, especially as a white man. I found that instead of swag, whites need to stay white and be just the right amount of being “too cocky and confident” in their approach. Black girls are low tier though, with a prevalence of STD’s (50% black women have herpes CDC) I’d stay pretty far away.
How to attract a black woman as a white male.
1. Be white
2. See number 1. Lol
hahaha…
No kids is the hardest to find….they even hide them in their cupboards when a new man is in her house…
Yep, half of the rug rats don’t have any home training.
Who’s “they” ? The women that are brown skinned??
No need to worry, black women certainly won’t be looking for you as a mate.
You must be a jealous Black man. Get over it. Most BW who are college educated like me don’t have children.
You know in arrange marriage cultures its those requirements that need to be met before the boy marrys that girl(well except 6 cause shed be a virgin)
good girl from a good family is ideal
Arranged marriages worked very fell in the past and can do so again….just not in america…its too late here.
Hell this is good advice for black men too. I’d rather date a black woman who acts more like Becky than Shaniqua any day.
100% correct!!!!
Wow. Hey I bet ‘Becky’ takes care of your ‘broke ass’ and ‘Shaniqua’ told you to take your good for nothing broke ass elsewhere and go find a white woman.
Love ‘Becky’, black female, sexy as hell, educated (makes a whole lot of money), married to a white man (makes a whole lot of money), parents married, long hair but wears extensions (just like 99% of white women but at least mine doesn’t unclip and fall out everywhere), no kids no kids no kids (just like 99% other black women), lady on the street and 100% freak in the sheets, white and black friends no who red.
Too Good to be true? Not one word of this is a lie. You’ve just not been looking hard enough
*whores (who red)
I know a Becky and that bitch is nasty lbvs
Applies to any woman right? Except for the overt racism of point 3.
Yes sir, it does. Not overtly racist, just seen for the most part (majority) that black girls who have a lot of white friends aren’t ghetto….mostly. No attitude, and wanting to be the man in the relationship.
It carries the implication that having white friends somehow validates a black person. Besides what do you mean by “a lot of white friends”? 2? 4? 6? 8? If a black woman meets all of the standards you expect of a woman the number of white friends should be an irrelevance. There are a lot well mannered non-ghetto black people. There are a lot of ignorant ghetto white people. But I judge people on their individual merits.
As far as attitude goes, I do not find black women have any more attitude than white women, in fact maybe less. Maybe its something to do with you? Or maybe she’s just fearful. I have found the heart of any “attitude” with black women is a fear (that all women have) of being hurt. You disarm that, you’re in. And as far as trying to be the man in the relationship – I find black women to be the most doting and feminine of women. They want to take care of their man and doing feminine things seems to satisfy them.
If anything, white women want to be the man in the relationship. In professional settings its virtually all white women, worried about their careers, leaving their children at day care or their surrogate child (read dog) in a cage all day.
Now your experience might be different but its important you know it doesn’t apply to every one else.
I agree my experiences don’t necessarily apply to everyone else, but it seems to be in the majority of most people…not all, but most. i say this from experience and the experience of others but you are correct, there are many exceptions.
Take it that you’re uneducated then #shouldvegonetoschool
Lol thats what I was saying…. there’s all kinds of Beckys out there huh
English Bob – you are why we prefer European men to the degenerates that call themselves American men.
Oh my god you are the type of white man that a black woman wouldn’t want to be with. Stereotyping much!!!
I think no WOMAN maybe girl though. But its cool. Game will recognize game
One great reason to go for black or brown women – they age much, much better than white women. These are usually the women who look 25 into their 40s. People talk about how “young” and “great” Jennifer Aniston looks, but she just looks like a well put together 40 something woman. The 40-something women who actually look young and are still bangable – Stacey Dash, Gabrielle Union, Halle Berry, etc.
They are very made up too though. Dash is hot but she doesn’t look 25. Some hit the wall in their 40s exactly like white women. E.g Jada Pinkett Smith.
They don’t wrinkle as much but they age in different, sometimes equally unattractive, ways.
Right, but Dash is pushing 50, and you still say she’s hot. 50! She could easily pass for 30, and she looks better than a lot of 25 year old white women.
Everyone hits a wall eventually. But the later the better, and dark skinned women seem to hit it a lot later and less harshly.
I disagree she could pass for 30. She looks closer to 40 to me, but she has had a LOT of work done.
Dark skinned women hit the wall later, but they are also less attractive to me overall. Very few stand out.
Don’t listen to these naysayers, Stacey Dash looks better than any 40 year old white actress on the market. Compare Stacey to Madonna and anyone would know what you mean. The reality is that black women and women of color AGE SLOWER than white women because there’s more melanin in people of color, which helps protect them from sun spots, etc.
Heck my mom’s 50 and can pass for 30 years old and oh yeah she’s still fitting in a size 6, don’t be fulled not all black women let themselves go to be big, obese ladies, I grew up as a vegetarian and in a home where eating healthy was just common sense. Just like you white people have Honey Boo Boo and her mother, blacks have theirs and just like you have your white supermodels, we have slim fit black women as well.
People are people, ignore what limited scope you see from tv and go out into the world to know.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I hate how white women have a tendency to get these disgusting wrinkles on their foreheads by the time they’re in their mid-20s. Nowadays I cringe whenever I see a white girl wrinkling her forehead because it looks so disgusting and makeup only covers up those forehead wrinkles so much.
Total KJ bullshit. You have never been around black women if you think they’re “better” than any other type. They are far worse.
The candle that burns the brightest also lasts the shortest amount of time.
Stacey Dash and Halle Berry are mixed not black
Halle Berry is definitely biracial. Reading would help…maybe you can go read that on wikipedia since you considered that a good source for reference 🙂
I am a GAYNIGGERFROMOUTERSPACE and I find this offensive to my kind
Lol
although things are more racially integrated in the UK and Europe, especially with black people, i have noticed the greeting of flicking the head back slightly works very well, especially with black males…. it’s a sign of acknowledgement and validation. It’s got me out of a few tight spots around the world… learn how to do it well and you’re a homey… it’s that simple…
“… it’s a sign of acknowledgement and validation . . .”
. . . between alphas. It’s a dominance trait. Moving the head forward is a submission. In the extreme it becomes a bow.
In the extreme moving the head back is so dominant that it’s a challenge, so don’t do that unless you are looking for a fight.
The more subtle flick of validation and acknowledgement between alphas says, “I see you and I know your status is equal to mine. We be cool and shit.”
If you move your head back but the other person moves their head forward, they are acknowledging you as alpha and themselves as beta and don’t want to start no shit either.
If you’ve never used the “up nod” try it on random strangers you pass and observe the various reactions you get. It might prove instructive.
I’ve also heard that the up-nod is shared between people you know, while the down-nod is used between people you don’t know. But the Alpha trait of using the up-nod is spot on
The “up-nod” works pretty good with chicks too.
It’s also shown the only way a black woman can get nominated for an emmy for a lead role in a primetime drama is if she’s fucking a white dude. It also brings out the hypocrisy of a certain subset of black women, who get offended when they see black men with white women but are ardent fans of the main pairing of this show-and they themselves are dating white men.
I’ve got a write-up on Scandal in the pipeline that will discuss some of that hypocrisy. Tommy Sotomayor has also spoken extensively on this topic, and I find it very interesting.
What was amazing to me was the black women who were pissed to high heaven that Kerry Washington lost the Emmy! Like “Really, she’s basically a white man’s whore and you want her to win an emmy for this?”
Negro bed winch and she wants an emmy for it, please
I do agree with this particular sentiment in regards to the nature of Scandal–the primary reason why I can’t follow the show. However, in the larger context of what seems to be a bias in BW and their views on interracial dating, well that largely stems from BW being tired of black men using them as a stepping stone to a white woman. It comes from BW being tired of being marginalized and condemned by their own black men, being unfairly linked up with the ghetto, boisterous black women, even though their have been many black women who have proven to be otherwise–yet even still BM continue to give this as their primary reason for disowning black women.
I for one, have been largely turned off from dating black men. I refuse to be a pit stop to a black man’s way to a white woman. I’m a woman too, and a feminine one at that. I have natural hair, I’m intelligent, not shallow, I am not argumentative, I have many great qualities that black men try to say black women are voided of.
This rooting for the interracial relationship comes from these stigmas that our OWN black men have placed upon us. Now this does not justify Kerry’s character being the glorified mistress to a white man, but it certainly does explain this misguided bias for the interracial relationships featured on the show.
You follow a Black woman hater?!
I’ve never really worried about race as long as I find a woman attractive, that is all that matters to me. The first semi-black woman I was with had a very racist father – he was black, and her mother asian. She was simply – gorgeous. Her father didn’t like her “involved with a white guy” and it was the biggest issue on her end.
But she got a major kick out of the racial aspect of our relationship. I couldn’t care less – she was gorgeous and that was all that mattered to me. Her race was part of that, but no larger than hair color to me. I think women are more concerned with race than men are, since they care more about what others think – to a man, all that matters is having a woman he finds attractive and turns him on.
During my time in China/Asia, I’ve found that their women are even more concerned with the color of your skin, your eyes, and your hair. And they are tiny compared to most American and E European women – most were less then 5′-3″ and didn’t break 100 lbs. And my “age-meter” was all screwed up, so I’d think a woman was in her mid-20’s and find she was in her late 30’s. If anything that was the biggest selling point of Chinese women – the fact that from 15-50, I couldn’t really tell how old they were… I just enjoyed…
Her father didn’t like her “involved with a white guy” and yet he was married to an asian lady?! Talk about hypocrisy at its finest!
In what way is a guy who doesn’t like Fords a hypocrite for owning a Honda?
If the man is racist, I would assume that his wife wouldve also been a black woman and not asian.
Which only means you told the story wrong.
That comment made no sense.
And what you should have learned is that your assumption was wrong. You need to generate a new working hypothesis.
Since you didn’t get my analogy I’ll offer a few points to consider along the way.
You didn’t say anything about his attitudes about racism. It is only his attitudes that can generate hypocrisy. It can’t be created out of your projected false assumption.
Having a predilection for Asians is just as racist as having an antipathy for whites.
You seem to be confusing the concepts of racial purity with those racism.
Yet the men over there are very sensitive about it! They can the age of their women almost immediately
You sound like a freak.
A couple of bananas usually does the trick.
Most black chicks in my town r ugly fat and tatooed. Or butterfaced. Only know abut 5 that i would bang. But one of the 5 has an attitude.
I have dated black women before, both for long and short-term relationships, and I’m a fan. (I’m white.) The advice above is solid, and I would re-emphasize not to treat her like a novelty. My general rule is that racial and cultural issues do matter but we should also treat people as individual human beings. The “colorblindness” that some white people brag about isn’t the same as tolerance and understanding, and actually it smacks of naiveté.
Also – a lot of the “issues” that some white guys accuse black women of (attitude, materialism, excess weight, single motherhood, etc) are demonstrated by all kinds of women so it is stupid to exclude a whole demographic over it.
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ok I want to know where these good looking blacks are I only know one ONE black chick who looks good looking ive meet maybe 100 odd some black chicks/seen
we’re all over 🙂
I agree with you. I’ve met quite a few, in fact one quite recently
True dat.
you are right Ashleigh. you are all over and in some places it like being a kid in the candy store. I want that one ooohhh look at that one and that one over there. OMGlook at those up there ha ha. It can get overwelming but I’m not complaining.
One of the most beautiful answers to an ugly comment I’ve ever seen.
Beautiful black and brown women are everywhere! I every time I go out to the supermarket, a restaurant, the movies, I see many gorgeous women with darker skin. Gosh, I hope this doesn’t male me sound like I want to date such a woman as a fetish, but I just feel women look prettier and healthier with brown or black skin. I’m a white guy BTW, and I really hope to find a black women to fall in love with and whofeels the same towards me.
You seem to fit Abagond Black girls that white men like.
Read the blog and let me know if it’s correct.
You’re absolutely right Ash!! The prettiest girl I’ve ever seen in my entire life was at an Exxon station in Fayetteville, NC. I was at the pumps and seen 2 kids jumping around in the backseat of a extend cab 4wheel drive Chevy with TX plates, and out of the store comes a black girl wearing wrangler jeans and ropers. She opens the door and low and behold the dad had to be white. I honestly would’ve married that girl that very instant. It’s been 20 years and I can still see her to this very day. You reckon that would be love at first sight?
Yes you are.
Awww! Hope you do too!!
Austin – approach her like any woman. She is a woman after all. We are not aliens.
You’re not looking hard enough or you have blinders on. The real question is where are all the black girls that are interested in white guys at? 🙂
Any black woman that likes be called blacks by any white man should have her damn head examined,period.How racist is that?!
You stupid? Im not dating a woman–black or white–who’s fat! I don’t want no ghetto momma!
“Also – a lot of the “issues” that some white guys accuse black women of (attitude, materialism, excess weight, single motherhood, etc) are demonstrated by all kinds of women so it is stupid to exclude a whole demographic over it.”
^^ It would be great if more people believed that!
White women are more materialistic than women of any other race because they are used to getting what they want, when they want it. When they do not get their way, they pout and cry like toddlers. Or, poison you for the insurance money.
Unfair to stereotype from any direction.
lol who ripped you off on insurance
its noyt just black girls that dont want to be a notch count but also immigrant and other ethnic girls.(conservative upbringing).
unless of ciurse that girl grew up with that racial group or her friends dated them or shes online then yes shes open to new dick shades.
but social circle game will work for anyone.
I was married to a black woman for a while. She was a little on the ghetto side. She wasn’t living in a black neighborhood when I met her, but she grew up in one. Her father and mother were never married. In fact, her father was married to some one else and her mother was basically his lifetime mistress. Her family was definitly ghetto and her circle of friend were almost all black. She went into some moderately serious debt buying brand new furniture for her apartment, but never seriously dedicated herself to paying it all off. She was content to make the minimum payments only. If she had money, she spent it. I had to nix our joint account, or we would have been completely broke at the end of each month. On the other hand, she took great care of her mother (who was in a nursing home when we met), liked country and western music, was really into fitness, kept herself thin, and definitely prefered white men. Her skin was caramel brown. She wasn’t “smut black” as she called it, but you wouldn’t call her light skinned either. Her hair was as kinky as it could be, but she would treat it to keep it relaxed.
She could be incredibly passionate and was up for anything in bed. She could be really sweet, but if you pissed her off enough, she could be loud and ultimately violent. Because her father and all her brothers cheated on their wives, she just assumed that all men were like that and would accuse me of cheating on her all the time. When I pointed out to her that I was home every night and every weekend, she said I could be cheating on her during my lunch break. There was no convincing her. I was much younger and didn’t know enough about women to regulate what I said, so I would often piss her off without realizing what I had said or done. It got to where we were fighting for one week and madly in love the next, over and over again.
Eventually I had enough of this and divorced her. I had to pay alimony for about 18 months, but it was worth it. I still had a thing for black women though, and once I was single it was like I couldn’t get enough of them. In my opinion it was much easier for me to be successful with a black girl than with a white girl. I was dating two or three at a time, but I refused to commit to any of them. My one experience being married to one had been enough and I had no desire to go through that again.
So this vets advice is to date black women as much as you want, but think long and hard before marrying one.
Please shut up.
Right ? That was completely made up.
Excellent post with great advice. My experience is with my current gf; the best relationship I have ever had, compared to the ww I dated and especially the white ex-wife. She is first generation Caribbean-American–parent from the colonial British West Indies. Exceptional home training–two parent family, well educated, articulate, lovely accent, demure, modest. Conservative family values (her n was 1 when we met) and so bonds with me very well–she is always after me!. Taught by her mom to manage a household, so she is a great cook. Religious, but not crazy about it; for her, it is more about having a good moral grounding to carry her through life. Very attractive, dresses well, keeps herself in good shape. Medium length natural hair, pretty brown skin complexion. I can take her anywhere, and with pride.
Your relationship sounds lovely and miles ahead of the one where the OP referred to his BW as a “Diamond in the Rough.”
Don’t treat her like novelty works is good advice for really beautiful women as well. Beautiful women are keenly away that men are only after them for their looks in the same way that black women are keenly aware that some men are after them because of the color of their skin. So generally the fewer comments on a beautiful woman’s appearance the better.
Respect to Athlone Mc Ginnis for trying to deal with this controversial subject in an informative and unbiased way. First giving advice to black males, then white males. Reciprocity and all in a well thought-out form.
As a white guy, I have been under the impression, true or false, that high quality black girls are quite interested in white guys, more so than say white girls are in black guys. Maybe this is more a consequence of whites having usually higher social status, than something directly related to skin color. But I see black athletes, arguably the most attractive black guys, with white girlfriends, and beautiful black girls with average white boyfriends. It’s as if many blacks have been influenced by society’s constant implicit portrayal of white skin as the most attractive trait (in movies, fashion shows, etc.).
I’ve met black girls who were both beautiful, smart, and cute. It is true however that for me going out with a black girl would be more “something to try” than something serious.
For better or worse, I lived for a few months in a district of a big european city where a lot of immigrants lived. In fact, there were so many that I was often the only white on the bus, in the street, in the supermarket. It was a strange feeling that developed in me after about three months in this 70% black / 25% arab environment : the feeling of being like a panda, an endangered species, who has a duty to reproduce with a white and bring a few white kids… for the sake of a little bit of diversity. That’s what my brain says, even though my penis often disagrees.
Why do you hold black women to a higher standard than other women. “High quality black girl” as opposed to just “white girl”? That’s part of the problem. Seeing black women as less than inherently.
I think any logical man would date across barriers. In college, you can find one interested to explore new things and obtain exposure to other people. After college, chances become slimmer.
After college, Its just difficult to find a black woman open to dating outside her race, has no kids, and not obese. College has the best odds.
There are a lot of white males that aren’t Alpha enough to date black girls. Black women need a dominant man, not some sissy beta fag. In America, attractive alpha white men could probably have their pick of the litter of attractive black girls. Beta white males can barely handle a white female let alone a black female. Also some black girls have that bitchy attitude and some don’t, just like some girls are sluts and some aren’t, It just depends on how the individual was raised. Truth is, a lot of white guys are caught up on race which is why they don’t date outside their race and hate when others do it. Also most black guys don’t care if a black woman dates a white male cus most of us are too busy getting girls of other races to worry about who a black women is dating. Only beta fags who don’t get laid are against interracial relationships. That being said,
If you are a white male your chances of landing a black chick go up if you are either
1. Attractive
2. Popular
3.Outgoing
4. Rich
5. Mesh well with Black people in general.
Most black women now wear straight hair wigs and try to lighten their skin. What happens when they take their straight wig off along with make up? Hope white guys still love them with curly hair and black skin.
100% natural black girl here…no skin lightening, no weaves. Wow at all this misinformation. Is it deliberate?
Girl why are you on here perpetuating negative black women stereotypes?
Your reading comprehension is very poor.
Bihseel said “most”. If you’re not the “most” he’s talking about then his statement doesn’t apply to you doll.
First lesson is free.
Those would be African girls. African-Americans did that in the 90s. Prior and after it has been strightening the natural hair or just going natural. White people put us down for centuries about how ‘ugly’ our hair was then you wonder why so many of us tried to hide it for so long!!
No, that would be Black girls. Period.
What the hell is so wrong with extensions any way? Do other women not wear them too??? MY GOD!
First off, I appreciate the conversation as well as the commentary. However, I think the author gets it half wrong. Allow me to explain: The author is telling thousands of male readers that basically black women value swagger above all else. ThankyouverymuchMTV, BET, and all rappers of the millennia. He, like many non-black men, think that most black women worship on the alter of black penis. White men fear this stereotype so much (and fear they won’t measure up to it) that they often won’t bother approaching black women. I know, because I get the notes from these dudes. Swagger in this case is code for BIG OLE MANDINGO DICK SO GINORMOUS HE CAN’T WALK WITHOUT STRUTTING. Here’s how the problem of black women being judged as a monolith gets so damn annoying. The values of ghetto chicks, black nerdy girls, “regular” black girls all get lumped together by the intellectually lazy.
While “Boomquisha” mostly desires the hyper-masculine bravado of thugged-out Rae-Rae and thinks he’s sexy as hell, “LaShawn,” the black, nerdy girl who grew up in the Valley and has a collection of friends that looks like the United Colors of Benetton thinks that dude is a clown and wouldn’t be caught dead taking him to the corporate Christmas party. And to be sure, the very woman that the PUA “Pick Up Artist” suggests is a good prospect IS a girl like “LaShaun,” and she’s not checking for swagger as her first indicator of a high-value man. In essence, the author is giving the right advice for the WRONG type of black woman. Most black women open to dating interracially aren’t looking for non-black men to adopt the mannerisms of black men, because…what’s the point?! Look white guys, high-value black women, (you know, the ones you want) are not looking for you to start Crip walking and running across the street shouting “AY! AY! AY! What-cho-numba is, gul?!”So with all respect to the Pick Up Artist who wrote this, please get the phuck outta here with that bull spit. You’re giving huge swaths of white guys advice on how to date ‘Shoshiquanna.’
Kayla, Christelyn, Brenda, Sylvia and all the other black women I know who have “regular” names who come from middle to upper middle class backgrounds (again, the kind of black woman you guys want to date) are not looking for those qualities in a mate. Like most sensible women, they’re looking for someone who can connect with them emotionally and intellectually, can carry himself well, has a good sense of humor, is gainfully employed, and most importantly, thinks we’re amazing. It’s. Just. That. Simple.
If you want to hear real commentary from real, high-value black women who are interested in dating you, perhaps you should visit here: http://www.BeyondBlackWhite.com
You idiot, Athlone is a black man.
This isn’t a great summary of my point.
Here’s what I said:
So, what was actually said here?
1. The typical (that is to say, the most common, generally abundant) black American woman does put a high premium on “swagger” when it comes to their men. This is the norm, and it is why images of men who possess said “swagger” are so prevalent and popular in the general black American community.
2. There are black women who do not put such a high premium on swagger. They tend to be well educated, usually with diverse friend groups, and/or are of mixed racial heritage. These are the black women who offer the highest potential return on investment for white males interested in black women.
These women are not your “typical” black American women as described above. Your “typical” black American woman is not particularly well educated (four year degrees are still only obtained by a minority of black women, and not all of those degrees result in “well-educated” graduates) and doesn’t hang out in diverse social circles while maintaining diverse friend groups (even many highly educated black women rarely associate extensively with non-blacks).
Thus, it is not actually accurate to claim that I said, simply, “black women value swagger above all else”. While your typical African-American female is likely to put a premium on “swagger”, there are indeed a substantial number of black women who do not do this. I acknowledged them in my post and encouraged the men I’m addressing to seek them out.
Not necessarily. You don’t need to become a caricature of a modern rapper in order to show a little “swagger”.
Most black women do tend to prefer black men. This is the case with other women as well (white women generally prefer white men, asian women generally prefer asian men, etc, etc). That doesn’t mean that there isn’t a decent chance of starting an interracial relationship, so long as the approach is right.
For the record, I’m not a non-black man.
You accuse me of treating black women as a monolith. Are you sure you read the article you’re commenting on? Because I’m fairly certain I acknowledged the phenomenon you describe here in the article, which I’ll now quote again:
I never made the argument that there did not exist black females in the USA who do not prefer your “Rae-Rae” and are open to a less hypermasculine caricature. I specifically stated that such girls do exist and encouraged readers to approach them. In making this encouragement I not only acknowledged the existence of your “LaShawn”, I essentially made girls like her the focus of my argument (read: the black women white males are best served seeking out and approaching).
I didn’t say she was. The fact that she isn’t is a big reason why I encouraged readers to focus on girls like her.
I don’t think this is the case.
Again, you’ve misread me. I never said this was the case. In this article, I specifically encouraged readers looking for advice on this subject to seek out black women who are not putting a high premium on that kind of behavior.
If I meant in any way to encourage white males interested in black women to behave in the ghetto manner you describe, I would not have encouraged them “look within diverse friend groups” in order to pursue “educated black girls with diverse friend groups”. I know these women don’t favor that kind of behavior — that’s why I’m recommending them.
1. I’m not a Pick Up Artist.
2. As noted above, my advice is not tailored to your “Shoshiquanna” hoodrat caricature. The fact that you think it is leads me to suspect that you either did read the article you are now commenting on, or simply failed to properly comprehend it.
3. I’m not going anywhere. I don’t need to — I’ve not produced any “bull spit” here. Any “bull spit” that is present has been the product of your own miscalculations and misreadings of my piece.
Oh my lord, AG you are such a cunt. Even when bickering with
a female, you sound like a straight-up bitch. I refuse to suggest you are beta, as many on this site do. Firstly, because I’m not a desperate manosphere shithead, but also, and more importantly, because to call you beta is to suggest you actually possess the equipment to be considered a male. Nope. You are 100% bitch, taxed and tariffed.
The topic: white guys hooking up with black ladies. Who is
the expert? The pseudo-black man. Lil’ Athlone McGillicuddy, the one who is not really black, and not really a man.
In what twisted fantastical reality are you an expert on
getting laid? By your own admission you had a hard time with the ladies “a couple years back,” but now you come off like the world’s sexual sherpa. What, because you’ve finally figured out how to get it in a few times? Shooting fish in a bucket doesn’t make you a sport fisherman, and fucking a few broads in college doesn’t make you an expert on getting laid.
Honestly, tell your legions of fans how long ago you actually lost your virginity. Four years ago? Five? And you really expect people to listen to shitty advice offered up by some blogging puke who has been having sex for, at best, a handful of years?
Here, McGillicuddy, let me do it for you: haters gonna hate.
Right?
Probably.
And bitches like you always gonna be frontin’.
You assert that the advice given in this article is “shitty”.
Alright. Can you explain to me precisely how so, Greezy (or Tugboat/Mick/Jay’s Blow/gaylord/Carlito/whatever your name is)? What is it about the advice above that renders it inaccurate and, therefore, “shitty”?
I’ve heard a lot of unsubstantiated ad-hominem from you thusfar but I’ve not seen you engage at all with any point I’ve actually made, nor have you critiqued any specific piece of advice I’ve given. Surely this lack of criticism can’t be taken as an endorsement of my points given your claim that my advice is generally “shitty”, so I’d like to hear precisely what is wrong with what I’ve written.
I look forward to your response.
Prove it. Show the world why what I’ve written is wrong, and be specific.
“You assert that the advice given in this article is ‘shitty’.”
I do, indeed.
“I’ve not seen you engage at all with any point I’ve actually made”
You haven’t made any points. All you’ve done is continued your frontin’.
“I’d like to hear precisely what is wrong with what I’ve written”
Precisely? Precisely all of it is wrong.
“Prove it.”
McGillicunty, you prove it every Monday. That’s the problem. Roosh has given you a weekly venue to spout your nonsense, but you lack the experience and overall knowledge to fill that weekly spot with anything more than hackneyed race-baiting and tired “advice” from a punk who has barely (if you’re lucky) a few years experience with anything vagina-related.
There’s no need to prove that you’re a bitch. You’ve already bitched out in your response by refusing to answer the question: how long ago did you actually lose your virginity? Tell us all so we know just who is offering up this shitty advice each week.
Well, bitch???
No, I’ve made several points in this article and the many others I have written. You’ve asserted that these points are invalid, but you’ve not shown how.
I’d like you to do so.
How so?
How, exactly?
If my writing is “nonsense”, then it would also, by extension, be false. Can you tell me how precisely my writing meets this standard, “Greezy”? What in the above article, for example, doesn’t make sense to you?
So, according to you, the articles I’ve written are disconnected from reality and generally filled with inaccurate, irrelevant content and suppositions due primarily to my age. Is this your contention?
If so, can you show precisely how said articles are inaccurate/disconnected from reality? You’ve yet to show me how precisely I’ve been wrong, and I’d like for you to do so.
The burden of proof is still on your shoulders here, “Greezy”. Show the world what is wrong with my writing. You should have no problem logically dismantling my articles here if you’re so insistent that I’m full of shit.
You’ve already answered that question, information pertaining to which is readily available on the forum (which you browse extensively, I’m sure).
I’ve asked politely for you to engage the actual content of my articles and show precisely how and why it is that my writing is wrong and my advice “shitty”.
So far, you’ve responded with a few unsubstantiated ad-hominem attacks entirely unrelated to any of the actual content I’ve produced. You insist that my age and alleged inexperience renders my content nothing more than “nonsense”, but you’ve so far proven unwilling to show how precisely that is the case. If I’m so clearly “full of shit”, I’d expect you to be able to lift multiple examples of evidence directly from my writing and explain how exactly they support your claims about me.
I’d like you to take the time to do this now. I don’t mind engaging in productive, constructive discourse with those who vehemently disagree with me. Whether or not this conversation comes to resemble such discourse is up to you.
“So, according to you, the articles I’ve written are
disconnected from reality and generally filled with inaccurate, irrelevant
content and suppositions due primarily to my age. Is this your contention?”
Um, no. My contention is that you are a bitch, and not
qualified to offer advice, based on your lack of experience. I’ve stated that
explicitly above.
“You’ve yet to show me how precisely I’ve been wrong”
I didn’t say you have been wrong. Right vs. wrong is
relative. What I said was your advice was shitty. I also stated that explicitly
above (can you fucking read?). You asked what was wrong, and I did say that, “all
of it is wrong.” Which I maintain.
It’s wrong because of the source from which it comes. When siting a source to backup one’s argument, validity of the source is paramount. In this case, the case of your articles, YOU are the source. And (again) it is my contention that you are not qualified as a valid source of advice.
In my original response I alluded to this when I asked, “In what twisted fantastical reality are you an expert on getting laid?” Naturally,
in true bitch fashion, you avoided answering that question (as well as my other
question, likewise yet unanswered).
“Show the world what is wrong with my writing.”
This will become clear to the world when you answer my
questions. It isn’t a matter of relative right vs. relative wrong. You’re a phony, and advice from a phony is worthless.
“information pertaining to which is readily available on the forum (which you browse extensively, I’m sure)”
Nope. I’ve never read anything on the forum. Again, as I stated in my original post, “I’m not a desperate manosphere shithead.” For
being so smart, you sure are a stupid fucker.
“You insist that my age and alleged inexperience renders my content nothing more than ‘nonsense’…”
I did not insist, nor did I even mention, that your age has
anything to do with your content. You are making that leap/assumption on your
own. I have questioned your qualifications as a glorified sex advice columnist based
on your inexperience.
“…but you’ve so far proven unwilling to show how precisely that is the case.”
Wrong. You have proven unwilling, by refusing to answer a couple simple questions.
Here’s another question: if I had a mop, a vagina, and a
doughnut, could you differentiate between the three?
“The burden of proof is still on your shoulders here”
The bulk of the burden is with you, “Athlone.” Or should we
call you Black Irish? Not really black, not really Irish. Front front front. You have proven time and again in the comment sections of your articles that you are completely inept at recognizing irony and sarcasm, so maybe we should stick with what works. McGillicunty.
As I was saying, the burden of proof is with you. Prove me
wrong. Prove to us all that you are qualified to offer advice. Explain PRECISELY what it is about your background that gives you “unique insight on sociological and cultural changes.” Explain PRECISELY what makes you qualified to offer advice about anything vagina-related. In your words, “I’d like you to
do this now.”
“I don’t mind engaging in productive, constructive discourse with those who vehemently disagree with me. Whether or not this conversation comes to resemble such discourse is up to you.”
It’s impossible to have a discourse at all when you
refuse to answer simple questions and all you do is front. So, realistically,
the direction this conversation takes is up to you. You can be forthright, and offer up a smidgen of candor. Or you can continue to act like a bitch.
Which path will McGillicunty choose?
So you didn’t say I was wrong…but you did say (with regard to my writing) that “all of it is wrong”.
And I’m the “stupid fucker” with reading comprehension issues?
I’m the race baiter, but you’re the one making posts like these in an effort to ramp up racial tensions in the comments regarding one of my prior articles:
And, after you’re done with that promotion of interracial unions, you proceed to start arguing like a WN:
All of these posts from the same IP you’ve used to comment on this article. That IP has also used dozens of handles (Greezy, Tugboat, D, Patricia Holloway, Liz Cartman, Kathy Engerdon, Mary Hartwell, Alice Bramwell, etc, etc). That’s without discussing dozens of additional handles (Carlito, Jay’s Blow, Mick, michaelk, Sir Bert, etc) you’ve used on other IPs.
You accuse me of lacking candor, credibility, authenticity. Yet here you are, hiding behind a legion of usernames and IPs and, at times, posing as a female in order to comment here. You simultaneously promote “race mixing” while condemning it. You promote authenticity while bending your gender identity online. You call me a bitch while actively assuming the identity of multiple females in order to comment here.
You want to accuse me of “frontin’”? Your entire presence here is defined by fronts. You have no credibility. You’ve shown no candor. You’re entirely inauthentic. And I’m supposed to take you seriously?
I’ve had about enough of this back and forth, so let’s leave it at this:
I have more than enough experience to offer the advice I’m offering, and I’ll contend that it is valid advice.
Hold on, let me make your next statement for you:
You want proof of my experience? You want to know PRECISELY what makes me qualified to say all I’m saying? I could offer you photos, texts, names, locations, numbers, etc, but I’m not going to do that. Do you know why?
Because I’m not required to. I’m not going to out myself at the behest of a troll who, though insistent on my “candor” and adamant in his criticism of me as a “phony”, can’t even keep a single username, IP, gender or point of view.
The majority of the writers and readers here and on the forum figure I’ve got something worthwhile to say, which is why I’ve had the opportunity to write for ROK in the first place. I don’t have anything to prove to them.
You’re the one with the strange hard-on for information about me, and you’re not even worth entertaining.
You want candor? Here’s your candor: you have no credibility, authenticity or authority here. You’ve shown yourself to be nothing more than an aggressive troll with multiple personality disorder. If you don’t think I’m “qualified”, feel free to piss off and read someone else’s writing. Go waste someone else’s time.
“All of these posts from the same IP you’ve used to comment on this article”
Oh, McGillicunty, do they teach you nothing in school anymore? There are ways to “disguise” one’s IP address. Rather pedestrian, actually. I’m certainly not the only one who knows this, which is why the “same” IP address has been used over and over. I find it hilarious that you thought the same person was writing all these posts, as male and female. Sorry, dickhead. Several different people don’t like your bullshit. It isn’t just me. This is the first thread I’ve commented on (though I’ve read your silly race-bait bullshit over the past few weeks).
So yeah, I don’t have “multiple personality disorder.” I can simply do a google search on how to disguise my IP address. The guy/girl you think I am doesn’t exist. That person in your mind is merely an amalgam of all the people who dislike you and are clever enough to disguise their IP address.
“And I’m the ‘stupid fucker’ with reading comprehension issues?”
You most certainly are.
By the way, I’m Mexican. Not WN.
Puta.
Like I said, for being so smart, you sure are a stupid fucker.
You’ve used 3 IPs in this comment section alone, 2 of which are linked to dozens of comments on other articles and have occasionally made use of the same e-mail addresses.
But that has nothing to do with you, does it? I’m sure it doesn’t. No, the fellows (ladies?) who flooded the comment sections on other articles with interracial porn were all different people who just happened to have the same IP. You’re just borrowing that IP (and, on occasion, their e-mail addresses) and have nothing to do with any of them.
Troll harder, bro.
Sure it is.
I’m sure that’s precisely the case, Greezy/Tugboat/Carlito/Liz/Patricia/Kathy/Alice/etc, etc, etc.
And I’m the Prince of Liechtenstein.
“You’ve used 3 IPs in this comment section alone, 2 of which are linked to dozens of comments on other articles”
Jesus, you are a dense motherfucker. Okay, do a little research on the TOR browser. As I said, it “hides” or “disguises” one’s actual IP address and uses a proxy…actually, never mind. I’m not going to waste my time walking a nimrod like you through something this rudimentary. Google it, you half-wit. Then maybe you will understand that all of those comments linked to the same IP address are coming from different people who are all using TOR, or some other appropriate facsimile.
I’m still laughing about how your weak attempt to discredit me has turned around and, once again, proved what a dumb fuck you truly are. And too much of a bitch to simply admit you’re wrong. Here’s a towel, McGillicunty. Wipe the egg off your face.
All of those comments you think are coming from one place, because of your pedestrian understanding of IP addresses, those are many people who hate you. Not just one. But I don’t expect a self-important bitch like you to take my word for it. So do yourself a favor, google it and stop looking like such an asshole. “You have such a hard on for me” What a fucking egomaniac turd.
“and have occasionally made use of the same e-mail addresses”
That’s just an outright falsity. I have used only one email here, one referencing hyenas, and that email has not been used on any other comment threads. I know this because I opened it for the soul purpose of commenting on this specific thread. So once again, you are wrong as fuck.
Seriously, puta. You look like an out-of-touch paranoid clown. It cracks me up that you believe you’re so amazing (literally, The Prince of Liechtenstein) that only one person on here could possibly dislike you. Just because a handful of the punks from the man(love)osphere wash your balls in the comment section, doesn’t mean you aren’t widely despised. Writer With A Dick doesn’t think very highly of you either, I’ve noticed. He and several others think you’re about as worthless as I find you to be. I’m sure there are countless others whose IP address you’ve flagged, preventing them from calling you on your bullshit. Big tough McGillicunty, flexing his virtual power in the man(love)osphere, because he has none in the real world.
Ol’ McGillicunty–still a frontin’ bitch. But also, now, a paranoid frontin’ bitch whose understanding of IP addresses is basically on par with my mom’s. Ivy League my ass.
“You’ve used 3 IPs in this comment section alone, 2 of
which are linked to dozens of comments on other articles”
Jesus, you are a dense motherfucker. Okay, do a little research on the TOR browser. As I said, it “hides” or “disguises” one’s actual IP address and uses a proxy…actually, never mind. I’m not going to waste my time walking a nimrod like you through something this rudimentary. Google it, you half-wit. Then maybe you will understand that all of those comments linked to the same IP address are coming from different people who are all using TOR, or some other appropriate
facsimile.
I’m still laughing about how your weak attempt to discredit me has turned around and, once again, proved what a dumb fuck you truly are. And too much of a bitch to simply admit you’re wrong. Here’s a towel, McGillicunty. Wipe the egg off your face.
All of those comments you think are coming from one place, because of your pedestrian understanding of IP addresses, those are many people who hate you. Not just one. But I don’t expect a self-important bitch like you to take my word for it. So do yourself a favor, google it and stop looking like an asshole. “You have such a hard on for me” What a clueless fucking
egomaniac.
“and have occasionally made use of the same e-mail addresses”
That’s just an outright falsity. I have used only one email
here, one referencing hyenas, and that email has not been used on any other
comment threads. I know this because I opened it for the soul purpose of
commenting on this specific thread. So once again (not surprisingly), you are wrong.
Seriously, puta. You look like an out-of-touch, paranoid, clown. It cracks me up that you believe you’re so amazing (literally, The Prince of Liechtenstein) that only one person on here could possibly dislike
you. Just because a handful of the punks from the man(love)osphere wash your balls in the comment section, doesn’t mean you aren’t widely despised. Writer With A Dick doesn’t think very highly of you either, I’ve noticed. He and
several others think you’re about as worthless as I find you to be. I’m sure there are countless others whose IP address you’ve flagged, preventing them from calling you on your bullshit. Big tough McGillicunty, flexing his virtual power in the man(love)osphere, because he has none in the real world.
Ol’ McGillicunty–still a frontin’ bitch. But also, now, a paranoid frontin’ bitch whose understanding of IP addresses is basically on par with my mom’s.
For someone so smart, you sure are a stupid fucker. Ivy League my ass.
Yes, I’m the “stupid fucker” making the same exact post twice within a 6 hour span.
And, somehow, you and all of these other people (using various distinct online anonymizers) just happened to end up with the same 2 or 3 IP addresses when commenting on this same website.
Convenient. Very believable. I’m sure this is all just a great coincidence.
The “soul” purpose, huh?
Tell me more about how stupid I am, bro.
Yes, I must be very quick to ban anyone who disagrees strongly with what I write. That’s why you (and all of your IPs) are still here and all of your (highly critical, insult-laden) posts are still visible to the general public. I clearly don’t tolerate dissent, not even a little. My ego is entirely too massive for that.
Tell me more about how stupid I am, bro.
Sure I am. And you’re not a gender-bending troll/WN. At all. You’re just a highly critical male poster of Mexican heritage. I can clearly see you’re Mexican now because you make frequent use of the word “puta” in your online conversations with people like me who you dislike/disagree with. That’s precisely the way your typical Mexican communicates online, right down to a T.
With such damning evidence of your heritage, I don’t know how I could reasonably doubt that you are who you say you are.
“making the same exact post twice within a 6 hour span”
I didn’t see my post, and I assumed the moderator (McGillicunty) deleted it. A fair assumption given your bitch tendencies, so I posted it again. Another weak attempt. In your words (verbiage completely indicative of a “black man”), “troll harder, bro.”
“I’m sure this is all just a great coincidence.”
I really don’t care if you believe me or you don’t. In fact, the longer you think I’m the amalgam of your paranoid fears, the funnier I think it is.
“The ‘soul’ purpose, huh?
Tell me more about how stupid I am, bro.”
Well, bro, I was wrong. You are a genius, bro. I made a spelling error, bro. You are real smart, bro. Nitpick much, bro? Is that the best you got? A fucking typo? “Troll harder, bro.”
“I can clearly see you’re Mexican now because you make frequent use of the word ‘puta’ in your online conversations”
How exactly does “your typical Mexican” communicate online? Andale! Andale! Arriba! Yo quiero taco bell, muchacho. Is that more what you were looking for? Should I pretend I’m black and use “bro” a lot like you?
So just so I’m clear, your paranoid delusions have you convinced that I’m a WN trying to come off as Mexican by using the word “puta” three times? That’s your theory? Yeah, that’s a perfectly well-fleshed-out scenario. Indeed, “very believable.”
Regardless, whether you believe I am the amalgam of your fear, or you believe I am who I say I am (first time commenter, born in America to a Mexican mother and a father of Irish and Italian heritage, raised with brown skin in America, who is wise enough to use a system like TOR when posting online, who hadn’t even heard of WN until you mentioned it in the comments of a different race-bait article (you seem overly preoccupied/obsessed with WN, by the way)), it’s all irrelevant to the nutmeat of the matter: that you are a bitch, with a phony persona, a phony Black Irish name/handle, a phony personal history, and shitty, meaningless advice. Whether it’s me saying it, or your paranoia saying it again and again, it remains true. And your knee-jerk reaction to it every time suggests you know it’s true. If it wasn’t made up horseshit, your insecurity wouldn’t ooze out of your every pore in these comment threads. But it does. Because you’re a phony and a bitch and utterly worthless outside of your only social outlet, the man(love)osphere.
Puta.
I’m sure that’s precisely what you were thinking.
You think the use of the word “bro” is a black thing?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bro
You sure about that?
I’m sure you don’t. Glad to see you’re so secure and confident in your actions, bro. That’s healthy.
Way to admit your faults, bro. That’s the first step to self-improvement.
Nah, your explanation is far more believable than that.
Sure I am. I have to acknowledge it — with the mountain of valid evidence you’ve so far provided in support of these claims, there’s simply no way I could deny them.
Yes, I’m clearly very insecure and very aware of the veracity of your claims.
That’s why my “knee-jerk reaction” to your litany of insults in this thread has been to allow every comment you’ve made to remain up, and every IP/e-mail you use to remain off the perma-ban list. That’s why you’re still posting here now and everything you write remains visible to the world: I just can’t handle the truth in your critiques. It’s too much.
I’m an insecure “puta”. You got me, bro.
“You think the use of the word ‘bro’ is a black thing?”
As I mentioned before, you have proven that you are completely inept at recognizing sarcasm. Thank you for proving that once again. You see, no, I DON’T think it’s a black thing. But you, a make-believe black man use it more than a peckerwood frat boy. So (now please studiously follow the bouncing ball…) when I said “verbiage completely indicative of a ‘black man,’” I was being…sarcastic!!! Thank you, once again, for proving how amazingly dumb you are.
“the mountain of valid evidence you’ve so far provided in support of these claims, there’s simply no way I could deny them”
Here’s where you are confused. I’m not out to “prove” anything. Not to you, nor to any of your ball-washing readers. I see you for what you are: a phony cunt. And it amuses me to needle pricks like you who have a far greater sense of themselves than is merited. Let me reiterate that, for your semi-retarded ass. I’m not trying to prove you’re a phony. You and I already know that. I simply find it fun to rile shitheads like you into a lather. It amuses me. You amuse me.
That said, I was giving it some thought, and it isn’t all that fun anymore, because there is little challenge to it. You make it SO easy. Because you’re pathetic. Your delusions of grandeur combined with your paranoid fantasies of gender-bending phantom WN boogeymen trying to ruin your precious man(love)osphere is possibly the saddest and most disturbing thing I’ve yet seen.
I started this thread off thinking you were a smarmy bitch who needed a slap. But it turns out you’re only a step or two away from shitting in your own hand and wiping it across your forehead while you howl at passersby on the street about the WN and the End of Days.
In other words, I feel a bit like a bully picking on the weak. You’re low-hanging fruit, “Athlone Dublin me-lucky-charms McGillicunty.”
I am anxious to see how secure you actually are. To see if you’re secure enough to end things here, with me having the final word. Or (as I suspect) if you will NEED to say something, to have the last word. Show us both how secure you are, broham dude bro (See? I also talk like a black guy! Just like you!).
Sure you don’t.
I totally believe you.
I know. We’ve already established the fact that you’re here to troll, Greezy/Tugboat/Alice/Carlito/Patricia/michaelk/Liz/etc,etc,etc.
I don’t think I do. I’m a “stupid fucker”, remember? You gotta remind me again.
…so your idea of “fun” is to spend significant chunks of your time reading the writing of individuals you insist are unintelligent, arrogant and entirely incapable of saying/writing anything worthwhile or useful, before then spending significant chunks of additional time crafting long comments illustrating why you think they’re not worthy of your time or anyone else’s.
It’s your life, I guess. Sounds like you’re a real winner, so I’ll leave you to it. Keep fighting the good fight, bro.
I’m sorry that you’re not having as much fun trolling as you used to, bro. It’s clear that you derive a substantial amount of your joy from this activity, and I’m saddened to know that I’ve curtailed that by making it less rewarding for you.
Here’s hoping you can find fulfillment in some other aspect of your life. I’m sure you’ve got a lot of exciting options available to fill the hole left by this tragic loss.
Keep on winning, bro. I’ll be cheering you on.
Whoops. I’ve responded to your comments as opposed to respecting your wishes and “ending things”where you wanted them to end (cause, you know, I should be considerate of your desires and all given how reasonable, agreeable and totally non-troll-like you’ve been in the time you’ve spent at ROK).
Looks like I’m insecure. Drat.
You got me, bro. You’re too good. Thanks for really letting me know where I stand. You’ve inspired me to become a better man, one who selflessly devotes substantial amounts of his time to online trolling and the maintenance of conversation with people he dislikes on the internet, all while dutifully supplying blogs like this one with unsolicited links to interracial porn and maintaining a number of female pseudonyms.
I hope I can grow up to be just like you some day.
“…so your idea of ‘fun’ is to spend significant chunks of
your time reading (blah blah convoluted sentence blah)”
I don’t consider a handful of minutes a day “significant
chunks of [my] time.” You live on here, I don’t. I know you’ve got it stuck in
your head that I am “Greezy/Tugboat/Alice/Carlito/Patricia/michaelk/Liz/etc,etc,et”
because you STILL don’t understand how TOR exit nodes work, and that this “person” with “multiple personalities” is actually several different people with
their own personalities. For this reason (read: your stupidity) you think I do nothing but “troll” your shitty
articles. But, alas, young man, I don’t spend that much time here. So, yes, a
few minutes a day to remind you that you’re nothing more than a nerdy kid who
finally got laid recently, and not the sexpert you think you are is, indeed, fun for me.
“I’ve responded to your comments as opposed to respecting your wishes”
I made no such “wish,” just a simple prediction. I know, I
know. Reading: not your strong point.
“Looks like I’m insecure.”
Yup. But, by all means, keep lying to yourself that you’re
totally secure, bro (black guy voice). Maybe if you lie to yourself long enough you’ll forget all about the guy who posted these gems on hookupsmart,
“I’ve gotten a lot better in the past year at hiding my
desperation/neediness and insecurity about this stuff, but internally it is
still there.”
And
“If I leave this school a virgin (very real possibility),
I’ll get a call girl or something later on.”
And
“I’m a beta through and through. I’m 19 and have only gone as far as second base with a girl (and that was once). I’ve kissed three times. That’s it.”
Maybe, if you continue to lie to yourself, you will forget
that person ever existed, much less that that person is you. Was then, and is
now. Thump your chest from the highest peaks of the man(love)osphere. Pretend
it was you, Kid Cunty the Black Irish, who hung the fucking moon. Front front
front. But deep down, you know it like I do, you’re the biggest troll here.
19 and couldn’t get laid if you walked into a whorehouse and you were stapled with $20 bills. And now, three years removed, you’re here to tell us all how to get more pussy. The irony is so thick, I can barely stomach it. Like I said before, you’re a fucking joke.
“I hope I can grow up to be just like you some day.”
Though I don’t suffer from sarcasm-blindness like you, I will treat this comment as though it were meant to be taken earnestly. I, too,
hope you can grow up someday. There’s no need, however, for unrealistic
expectations. You’ll never be like me. I actually touched a vagina before my 19th birthday.
Just a few minutes to write all of that? Even with your extensive responses, plus the time you took to dig up 3-year old posts I made on another blog I no longer frequent, you still manage to keep your time at ROK down to just a few minutes a day.
That’s impressive.
That person was a 19 year old virgin.
I am not a 19 year old virgin.
Do you understand how that reality may conflict with the assertion you’re making here (“that person is you”)?
Because (follow me closely here) to be a 19 year old virgin I would have to…be a 19 year old virgin.
In this particular article, I’m telling you how to approach black women effectively…which is something I’ve spent the past 3 years doing successfully (nevermind what I’ve actually witnessed on top of that). Now, if you believe that the advice I gave above is in anyway inaccurate, ineffective or inapplicable, you’re welcome to clearly illustrate how that is the case. Doing so would obviously prove your assertion that I don’t know what I’m talking about.
I’ll lay this out for you again since you seem not to have grasped it in spite of your remarkable intellect (I’ll go slow and try to be as detailed and clear as I can – I know this isn’t easy for you): If you want to continue claiming that I lack the experience necessary to provide effective advice (and am therefore “unqualified” and not worth reading), it is in your interest to actually show that the advice I have provided is, in fact, not effective (inaccurate, inapplicable, etc).
This is crucial because if said advice just so happens to be effective (as several individuals within this comment thread alone have attested to), then your argument (“you can’t possibly know what you’re talking about”) starts to look a little flimsy. The presence of effective advice above would back the notion that I have more than enough experience to write accurately about this subject. That undermines your argument.
With that in mind, I’ll ask you one more time: prove that I don’t actually know what I’m talking about. Show the world that I’m wrong, and illustrate clear to precisely how I’m wrong. Show that everything I wrote above is entirely ineffective BS and, in doing so, prove your assertion that someone my age who has been sexually active for as long as I have is not actually capable of giving effective advice ((and, therefore, not “qualified” to do so) with regard to the subject of this article.
Thankfully, you’re correct. That would be an unfortunate regression.
“plus the time you took to dig up 3-year old posts”
Literally seconds to type “Athlone McGinnis” into a search engine. Not the hours and hours you imagine me and my other personalities taking to find things with your name attached to them.
“That person was a 19 year old virgin.
I am not a 19 year old virgin.”
That person was “Athlone McGinnis.” You are still “Athlone McGinnis.” Getting laid a couple times doesn’t change who you are. You’re still the same dickhead you were WAAAAAAAY back a couple years ago.
“it is in your interest to actually show that the advice I have provided is, in fact, not effective (inaccurate, inapplicable, etc).”
You’re wrong. I have no interest in showing this. Again, I’m here for my own amusement. To needle you, to get under your skin. And I am apparently successful as you continue to defend yourself (odd for someone so secure with themselves).
“I’ll ask you one more time: prove that I don’t actually know what I’m talking about.”
And I will tell you one more time: I’m not here to “prove” anything to you or anybody else. I AM HERE FOR MY OWN PERSONAL AMUSEMENT. Follow that? The more you respond, the more amusing it is to me. You insist I’m a troll. Standard advice is to not feed trolls. Yet you are the owner and operator of a troll’s smorgasbord. You can’t help yourself. You feed and feed and feed me. Justify it however you please. You’re either part of the problem or part of the solution. Right now, you’re part of the problem.
This post took exactly 8 minute and 32 seconds to
complete. Or, as I called it, a handful of minutes.
I’ve attempted to find my old posts on HUS on more than one occasion. They don’t pop up very quickly.
That person was a 19 year old virgin.
I am not a 19 year old virgin.
“A couple”? You’re low.
You’re right, though, getting laid a couple of times doesn’t necessarily change who you are. In fact, I could never have gotten laid at all without changing who I was, and it wasn’t until that change was well underway that I actually got anywhere. Getting laid didn’t change who I am — changing who I am got me laid. The latter would have been impossible for me without the former.
This is why I write here and bang on about the importance of self-improvement all the time. Guys like my 18/19 year old self (they aren’t uncommon) are often their own worst enemy. Sometimes improvement is contingent on looking in on oneself, coming to some harsh realizations (“I am a coward/pussy”, “I’m terribly insecure”, “I dress like shit”, “my body is sloppy”, etc, etc) and destroying them.
That change is hard, but it can be done. I am intimately familiar with that process.
Then you admit you have no argument.
And now you admit that you are a troll.
My banning you outright and wiping out every post you’ve made here in your bid to call me out would be a sign of the success you reference. It would also prove the points you’ve made about my insecurity and inability to handle criticism.
You’ve thusfar failed to find that success.
On the contrary, I enjoy sparring with my worst enemies. I’m confident enough in the veracity of my own positions and perspectives to do so publicly. This is not the first instance of such behavior on my part, as you know (you’ve been browsing ROK long enough to see some of those discussions).
Most of the opponents I’ve run into here at ROK are a bit better at providing actual arguments to counter, though. You don’t provide quite as stern a test of my positions and perspectives and, instead, appear to be a mere troll. That’s disappointing.
You are a troll. I’ve been known to deviate from advisory “standards” on more than one occasion.
We’re both part of a solution, actually.
Only one of us is aware of what that solution actually is.
You took the time to actually time that post to the second? Just for me? You shouldn’t have. And here I thought you didn’t care.
I’ll just take you at your word with regard to that measurement. I’m sure you can be trusted.
“I’ve attempted to find my old posts on HUS on more than one occasion. They don’t pop up very quickly.”
Either you didn’t try very hard, or we’ve found yet another thing you suck at. Page 1 in a Google search has one. Search your silly made-up name along with “hooking up smart” and voila! Literally, seconds.
“I am not a 19 year old virgin.”
No, you’re a dickhead 22 year old with an inflated self worth. At least the 19 year old virgin was aware of his shortcomings. As pathetic as those posts were, they were almost charming in their desperation and sincerity. There was no frontin’ to be had by the 19 year old you (save for your lame made-up Black Irish name). You were flawed, and you knew it, and didn’t mind “admitting” it (albeit anonymously). Which is a far cry from the phony you’ve become. So, in a way, you’re right. You are different. I’m different than I was at 19 as well. But I’m not pretending to be someone I’m not (in spite of your irrational, unsubstantiated claims to the contrary).
“‘A couple’? You’re low.”
Oooooo, braggadocio! I’m sure you are literally drowning in pussy. Just like every other bozo who spends half his life on boards and blogs. If there is one thing I should believe, and all of your readers should believe, it is your claims of how many girls you’ve fucked. Guys NEVER lie about that number. Especially guys like you, whose entire existence is one transparent front.
“Then you admit you have no argument.”
Again with the reading failures. No, I don’t admit that I have no argument. I admit that I’m not making an argument. There is a distinction to be made between those two. I’m not arguing anything, because I don’t have to. I don’t need to “prove” anything. You’re proving it on your own with each delusional post you make. If one wished to make an argument that your writing is nonsense, it wouldn’t be difficult at all. But, FOR THE FIFTIETH TIME, I’m not trying to prove anything. I’m not arguing anything. It’s much more fun to have a banter with you, and let you look like a self-aggrandizing paranoid bitch with each post you make.
“And now you admit that you are a troll.”
Finally, the boy genius is starting to grasp what’s happening here! That is, if by troll, you mean someone who isn’t trying to make an argument or prove something through discourse in a comment thread of a week-old blog on a polarizing and idiotic website that few, if any, people will actually read. Then yes, I am a troll!
“My banning you outright and wiping out every post you’ve made here in
your bid to call me out would be a sign of the success you reference.”
Oh my. You are so intimidating when you flex your pretend muscle in your pseudo reality. I can see why the ladies would flock to your jock. I mean, let’s face facts: you’re the ultimate pretend badass. What girl’s panties don’t sop at that notion?
“I’ve been known to deviate from advisory ‘standards’ on more than one occasion.”
Yawwwwwwn. Do you ever tire of talking about yourself and how amazing you are? You remind me of the fat people I used to train at the gym. They start off 300+ pounds. They lose 50 pounds, which is a noble feat by most standards, though hardly legendary. And because they cut some fat, they think they look amazing. When in reality they are still fat fucks, just slightly less fat than they started off being.
You are a similar case.
Because you were so off-the-charts clueless and hopeless and, indeed, pussyless a couple years ago, you think that finally getting laid (like most of us have been doing all along) is some triumphant achievement, that you’ve unlocked Pandora’s box. When the reality is, all you’ve done was figure something out that I grasped when I was 13 fucking years old, and haven’t lost yet, some 25 years later.
Getting laid is easy. Just because you were so unbelievably godawful at it a couple years ago doesn’t mean you’re a prodigy now that you’ve joined the rest of the planet in having sex. The majority of the world gets laid. You aren’t special. You are incredibly ORDINARY. We all fuck. It’s our nature. You don’t possess a magic key, Kid Cunty. You are the fat 300 pound fuck who dropped 50 and thinks he’s Channing Tatum. All you’ve done, ALL YOU HAVE DONE, is figured out what most people figured out LOOOOOOOONG before you. Why don’t you tell us all how you’re the master of breathing air while you’re at it?
(Disclaimer: the above statement is not meant to act as a proof or a theorem or a scholarly argument or any variation thereof. It is simply a reflection of the writer’s observations, based upon his life experiences and knowledge of the human condition. Though these observations are amazingly apt and utterly harrowing in their truth (<–SARCASM ALERT! (though, technically, the writer is being more cheeky than sarcastic, he felt it would help dumbass “Athlone” to point it out beforehand so “Athlone” didn’t think the statement had been made in earnest)), the writer fully expects a tepid and futile attempt by Kid Cunty, the phony black man, to discredit them as hogwash. As the white folks like you say around these parts, “Let ‘er rip, tater chip!”)
That wasn’t intended to scare you. It was intended to illustrate your failure.
If you say so.
Nor am I.
Because you can’t.
You’re right, I can’t prove any of the claims I’ve made online.
Then again, neither can you.
If that makes you feel better…
Sure it wouldn’t.
So….
-The blog is a week old
-The website is polarizing and idiotic
-Few people will read it
-The person you’re talking to is, according to you, an idiot
And yet, despite all of this, you’re still here…writing. And writing extensively.
You claim to have far better things to do with your time (because you’re “not a man(love)osphere shithead”), yet shun them in favor of making extensive posts on week old blogs hosted on sites you consider idiotic that few people will actually read.
“That wasn’t intended to
scare you. It was intended to illustrate your failure.”
Well, it accomplished neither.
“If you say so.”
“Nor am I.”
“Because you can’t.”
“If that makes you feel
better…”
“Sure it wouldn’t.”
Now you’re just phoning it in.
“And yet, despite all of this, you’re still here…writing. And writing extensively.”
Just honing my craft. Practicing, for lack of a better word. I’m improving myself. I thought man(love)osphere guys like you endorsed self-improvement. Yet you question me when I attempt to better myself. Once again using your words, “Interesting contrast there…” (I would probably use the word “dichotomy” rather than “contrast,” however)
“You claim to have far better things to do with your time”
I’ve made no such claim at all. I claimed I wasn’t a desperate manosphere shithead (which I maintain I am not). The context of that claim was in reference to my choice of calling you a bitch, rather than a beta (yet another reading failure by you; you should really work on that). In other words, I prefer to avoid trite words and expressions associated with a specific group of people in favor of more universal language. I don’t talk about how I’m “red pill” or “alpha” or that others are “white knights” or any of that tired, faggy language you all employ.
Reiterating, I’ve made no claim to have better things to do with my time. I feel that this is a perfectly good use of my time. Again, honing my skills. Self-improvement!
“Where did I claim to be the master of anything in particular?”
I didn’t say you claimed to be the master of anything. Which is why I framed the question in such a way. I’ll illustrate as best I can, though I’m aware of your shortcomings with regard to reading comprehension. See if you can spot the difference:
“Why don’t you tell us you’re the master of breathing air while you’re at it?”
“Why don’t you tell us you’re ALSO the master of breathing air?”
You know, grammar, language, that whole thing that “writers” like you ought to have a handle on.
On the contrary, it quite successfully illustrated the latter.
Just stating matters of fact.
I see.
Sure we do. That’s why I had no issue accepting the veracity of the 3 year old posts you found on that other website. I know they are no longer representative of who I am thanks, in large part, to my having embraced the notion of self-improvement.
You seemed quite skeptical of the concept earlier, however.
As you questioned me.
I don’t know about that. You seem to have a stronger affinity for the manosphere than you claim.
You’ve implied precisely that on more than one occasion. You’ve claimed that I a level of arrogance, overconfidence, and cockiness to potentially justify my defecating in my own hand and subsequently wiping my forehead (among other things). Such a profile could only match an individual truly convinced of his unquestioned supremacy and elite status. You’ve stated categorically that at least part of your mission in coming here was to take me down a notch and remind me that I am not as good as I think I am.
That goal, of course, implies that I think I’m particularly exemplary (i.e. masterful) in the first place, and it implies that I’ve illustrated such a thought in my writing.
I’d like to know where I claimed such mastery/expertise and displayed the traits you’ve illustrated. Where have I “thumped my chest” (as you claimed I have done earlier)? Where did I display my “delusions of grandeur”?
I’ve got the handle.
I can’t speak for you, however.
“You’ve implied precisely that”
Firstly, you cannot “precisely” imply something. One is reflective of indirect reasoning, the other is a matter of definite measure. It is a contradiction to use them together.
You sure you’ve “got the handle” on language? Doesn’t seem like it.
To wit:
“You’ve claimed that I a level”
I a level? That must be more of your tell-tale “black man” dialect to which I’m not privy. Wow, it IS fun to nitpick!
But I’ll (once again) forgive your ignorance, and entertain the idea that it’s possible to “precisely imply” something.
I have not “precisely implied” that you claimed to be the master of anything. I have stated explicitly that you have an inflated sense of self-worth. That’s it. No double meaning, no innuendo, no “precise implication” of mastery. Pretty plain, direct language. You think you are better than you actually are. In my opinion, you have more “self-improving” to do. Recalling my metaphor of the fat fucks at the gym, you aren’t Channing Tatum just yet, sport. You have miles to go before you sleep.
As long as we’re using implication as evidence, I would say you have “thumped your chest” in the very act of writing self-improvement articles. To offer advice is to suggest that you possess a wisdom that others lack. That you have answers others seek. I consider that arrogant chest thumping. “Gather round and listen to me, for I hold the key to the great mystery of the elusive vagina!” Especially when it comes in the form of sex advice from someone who couldn’t get laid in college a couple years back. Surrounded by scores of horny young co-eds, fish in the fucking barrel, and still couldn’t connect the dots. That person offering advice is nothing short of hilarious to me. I think you giving sex advice is like someone with their driver’s permit offering advice about winning NASCAR races. I’d say put in a little bit more time on the track before you tell guys how to “increase their chances of dating.”
While we’re at it, I also think you’re a braggart, a blowhard, and an egomaniac. And no, I’m not going to point to specific examples (plentiful as they are) to “prove” it to you, so don’t even ask. I’m here for my self-improvement, not yours. If you want to know where you come off as a braggart or an egomaniac, you do the legwork.
But before I go, I would like to point to one useful, specific example where you have displayed your delusions of grandeur. Now, keep in mind, this is merely one of many examples of your conceit–I have neither the time, nor the desire to point them all out for you–but this one is, to me, especially comical:
“I thought it prudent to take the time to look back at some of my best articles”
You honestly can’t see the arrogance in that statement? Seriously, a greatest-hits article…of your articles. Mind-numbingly arrogant.
Alright.
Good talk, bro.
Cheers, McGillicunty.
I look forward to Monday’s offering.
“Alright.”
Indeed, further “proof” of your handle on language.
From ye ol’ internet:
“…as grammarian Bill Walsh puts it in his book Lapsing Into a Comma, ‘We word nerds have known since second grade that alright is not all right.’ He was talking about ‘alright’ as one word. It’s not OK.”
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alright
As I said before: good talk, bro.
Confusing sub-standard usage with grammatical norms. Yet another pedestrian mistake. Why am I not surprised?
I’m not sure, Duder. I’ll think on it and get back to you later.
This Christelyn Karazin person is really a nut case and needs help. She lashed out at black women, white men and black men. LOL
Where they do that at?
Stop it Christelyn, you are still mad at you’re black baby father loser. You threw out a whole bunch of stereotypes loser. My family is upper class, you spoke to my father loser. You are a clown. I got 3 degrees. You will be forever loser. You even had a kid out of wedlock and begged you’re white husband to marry you. Stop playing on here before I expose you loser.
I knew there had to be something pathological about this woman. Exclusively advocating dating white men (not as an option) but at the expense and ridicule of black men. What a self-hating self-loathing loser.
Probably has the hots for Jordan Harbinger while her beta husband plays “cheerio” commercials at home!
The white man has a fear of genetic annihilation.
The article is filled with pictures of mixed breeds. The average Afro-American woman looks very different. If you’re interested in females just like in the photos you should use exactly the same game as with white females, many mixed breeds are raised in white environments/culture, and therefor have a ‘white’ mentality. In many cases they try to overcompensate (prove themselves) resulting in extra white behaviour.
In case you’re geniunely interested in Afro-American women; keep in mind that Afro-American society is female dominated i.e. truely matriarchical. Most will exhibit ghetto behaviour, even the educated en religious ones. Just because she went to school doesn’t mean she isn’t a hoodrat…she’s just an educated hoodrat.
Overall dating Afro-Amerian women isn’t a good investment…quality is just extremely low. In case you per se want a black women go to Africa, South Ameria or pick one up from the islands.
By now it’s a known fact that American women are of bad quality…African-American women are easily the worst out of that bunch.
You picked the perfect name for yourself because you are an a**hole. So you set yourself up as the expert on American Black women, you know nothing about them nor can you personally speak for every single one of them. I highly doubt you have the kind of quality as a male (not man) that most women are looking for so you as coward sit behind a computer screen and spout this foolishness. You sound like a bitter black beta male to me, in fact I know you are because black males are the only group of men I see who say these things about black women. No other race of men wastes so much time and energy trashing the women of their race regardless of their geographical location like black men do. A real man would not waste time trashing a woman to others, only childish has not “grown a pair” BITTER, emasculated, beta males do that. Pick up women from South “Ameria”? “therfor”? use spell check please before you seek to give “expert” advice. It makes it very hard to take you seriously when a 4th grader’s writing skills surpasses yours. The the world a favor and go feed on your bitterness in silence.
For the other men reading this, Black women regardless of their geographical location who are interested in QUALITY men of other races are not looking for swagger, they are looking for quality. If they want a man with swag and other forms of false masculinity, they will seek out “Ray Ray”, his low sitting pants, and his grill. SWAG and confidence are not the same thing. Quality black women want men who share their common interests and goals in life. They are not looking for men of other races who are attracted to so called “black identified behavior” and traits; like hip hop music, rap, slang and the oh so popular “SWAG”. If the women that you constantly encounter are attracted to men with these traits, I would say you are fishing in the wrong pond! Women just like men are individuals and have different tastes and interests and they should be judged as individuals and not collectively like “a**hole” has ignorantly done in the name of trying to “enlighten” others. My white male friends and colleagues who are dating and/or are married to black women American or not are very happy with their “investment” and have no regrets because they chose well and prove everyday that the so called advice of this bitter black beta male is FALSE born of his own delusional thinking and has no basis in truth whatsoever.
Damn, i really struck a chord didn’t i? Ouchh. For now i’ll ignore your illogical and in many instances hyporitical rambling.
While trying to save face for the Afro-American females you attack black males. Not a smart strategy.
“You sound like a bitter black beta male to me, in fact I know you are because black males are the only group of men I see who say these things about black women. No other race of men wastes so much time and energy trashing the women of their race regardless of their geographical location like black men do.”
By the way…I’m not black.
First, Just Visiting take a breath. Right now your response is hostile and not the right tone for this discussion. Or most discussions for that matter.
To the men here: the author had some good points, but what he got wrong was the swag part. If you want a quality black woman get an educated one, with a diverse group of friends and diverse interests. These women really don’t care about swag. They just want a man who can uphold his end of the masculine bargain. I.E. Keep a good job, not have oodles of out of wedlock kids, treat her with respect, etc.
It is not a light skin, dark skin thing. It is not a mixed or fully black thing. It is a thing of how well associated she is with the dominate, read white, culture. And how well she carries herself. All women like a confident, secure man. African American women included.
It’s not matriarchal if black women still rely on men for housing and food just like any other woman. You’re confusing it with “failed patriarchy.” Black males failing their race doesn’t make it a matriarchy.
No thanks. Black women are generally extremely unattractive. Like, I find maybe 1 black women in a hundred borderline bangable; and I find maybe 1 black woman in 500 actually hot.
Well, to be fair, there is a huge difference between this:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2afflt5&s=8#.UvpZIPldXDE
and this:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2358418176/nm0000932?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_evt_746
The girl in the top pic is only 23, btw, and Halle was in her 30s when the bottom pic was taken.
A 23-year-old would be an adult, not a girl.
Saying “girl” in reference to a woman is akin to saying “guy” in reference to a man. Spare us your faux outrage.
No one is outraged here. And no, the two are not the same.
To the majority of normal men under the age of 30 (and many women too, particularly in the urban community), they are interchangeable.
Taking the time to make an asinine critique of the vernacular is most certainly a level of “panties in a twist.”
And yes, actually, they are the same.
…
I am currently in Nairobi, Kenya. Many of these beautiful ladies have a fetish for white men. I use to travel to the Philippines, but after coming to Nairobi, I will never go back to Asian ladies. Asian ladies may be obedient and submissive, but Kenyan ladies are very proactive in the bedroom. I am all smiles here.
Don’t call it a fetish, please.
A HALF BLACK WOMENS TAKE ON THIS…. ( been dating outside since I was 15 and is married to white guy)
Some
of the things in article are true but the one that is lease true is the
one white guys and “SWAGGER” A black women looking for a white guy with
swagger just really wants a black guy….She wants to bring you around
her black friends and prove to them that your cool non boring banker
type thats “down” and the issue with this is that if thats not your true
nature this is only going to maybe get you number . Bc you’ll always
have to prove your not racist and you can play to some generic
sterotype.
Just be direct beyond a compliment by getting
her number. Sometimes a guy will be talking to me and then say Im very
pretty and classy and not close the deal by exchanging information. Most
times I think its bc he is over thinking what to do next lol… Say ”
your the most interesting and lovely women Ive met in a long time and
I’d like to talk and see you again if you dont mind “…. Exchange the
info.Thats being respectfully interested.
I personally
have found it kinda found it cute if a guy is trying to work his way up
to asking me out. It took my guy three weeks ask me out. He said I was
so stunning and couldn’t believe there was an inner geek that was loving
Dr. Who , Randy Travis and could Salsa dance living in one chick lol.
My point was if you like the women let her know sooner than later. I’ve
always like the banter and flirtation with Asian and White guys more.
I
dont need my ass size or a guys dick talent discussed with me so freely
as Ive seen with black guys. Plus they could never believe that I have
NEVER been sexually attracted to Black Guys. Which somehow always sounds
to them that I must hate my fathers black half of me and worship my
mothers whiteness. I can appreciate the fact that when I tell an asian
or white guy im not interested in him romantically. I am always told ”
oh thats fine I still had a good time, your pretty I know you’ll find
what you want” vs a Black guy who approached me and is chatting and I
dont want to say he isnt my typesince I dont want to be mean. So i say
thanks you were really nice but im not interested . I get “i respect you
but why not? Or fuck you i didnt want you no way. ” oh you must think
your white but your a nigga which makes me laugh at such childishness.
My point is dont change and pick up some “swagger” There is a reason
why a non white women would think you’re a great person worth knowing
more and attempting to mimic some behavior not normal to being you wont
work in the long run
I never ask if Im any non-
black guys first “colored” date or relationship. Bc most times I was .
Fact is the most common interacial couples is Black Men and White Women /
White guys and asian women. The interracial relationships that actually
last leading to a lasting non divorce relationships is with white guys
being with Black women and Asian women. My personal belief is because
they have put some thought into persuing this kind of relationship.
Unlike how Black mens interacial relationships usually develope on
higher sexual level first, so the intent to have what could be something
lasting if the chemistry is right isnt really there. They are quicker
to move to the next nonblack women and show her how “good he can give it
her” lol
Black women who have never been with anyone
else but a black guy are told he could never love you and you better
watch out. White guys are serial killers and will club you aside your
head and beat and rape you and call you a nigga over and over. Whenever a
Black women knows I dont date Black men Im told some whack version of
this story and they cant believe it hasnt happened to me and Ive never
been called a nigger. Its not that complicated if your simply with a
person respects you …period. But a lot have this fear. My mom was white so she never told me this story LOL
Keep
in mind there are more black women who have their degrees than black
men and many of them have financially supported them. So its not like
there isnt a big pool of women that have something to contribute in a
relationship. Growing up in the suburbs and having two different race
parents I was normally the type that a white guy or asian guy would
find interest in if he were going to date outside. So Ive seen most
sides. The biggest issue Ive seen is the lack of confidence that can
happen. Most Black women have never seen a real thriving relationship
between a white guy / black women . Ive been lucky to see it in my home
and with my aunts or uncles. So she is going to wrongly assume you wont
be that serious or that you couldn’t love her like you could a white
women. That one day her beauty may look ugly to you later. Or just the
guilt ppl espcially BLACK MEN will put on her for being with you.
Which
is only ironic bc the black guys who object the most are the ones who
date outside their race and actually have nothing good to say about most
black women anyhow. If you were a BMW lover you wouldnt seek to get
hear the best things from a Benz lover. That dude is your competion
teams in football don’t ask the other team they are about to play how
they can kick their ass !! Before my Hubby dated me he was dumped by
three Black women bc they either found he was too nice, or they couldnt
take being looked at when in public/ family members didnt like it . Date
for personality within the package your attracted to. Yes there are
some ghetto talking loud black women but arent there some trashy redneck
trailer park nonesense going on on the less classy white side that can
be found? L
A HALF BLACK WOMENS TAKE ON THIS…. ( been dating outside since I was 15 and is married to white guy)
Some
of the things in article are true but the one that is lease true is the
one white guys and “SWAGGER” A black women looking for a white guy with
swagger just really wants a black guy….She wants to bring you around
her black friends and prove to them that your cool non boring banker
type thats “down” and the issue with this is that if thats not your true
nature this is only going to maybe get you number . Bc you’ll always
have to prove your not racist and you can play to some generic
sterotype.
Just be direct beyond a compliment by getting
her number. Sometimes a guy will be talking to me and then say Im very
pretty and classy and not close the deal by exchanging information. Most
times I think its bc he is over thinking what to do next lol… Say ”
your the most interesting and lovely women Ive met in a long time and
I’d like to talk and see you again if you dont mind “…. Exchange the
info.Thats being respectfully interested.
I personally
have found it kinda found it cute if a guy is trying to work his way up
to asking me out. It took my guy three weeks ask me out. He said I was
so stunning and couldn’t believe there was an inner geek that was loving
Dr. Who , Randy Travis and could Salsa dance living in one chick lol.
My point was if you like the women let her know sooner than later. I’ve
always like the banter and flirtation with Asian and White guys more.
I
dont need my ass size or a guys dick talent discussed with me so freely
as Ive seen with black guys. Plus they could never believe that I have
NEVER been sexually attracted to Black Guys. Which somehow always sounds
to them that I must hate my fathers black half of me and worship my
mothers whiteness. I can appreciate the fact that when I tell an asian
or white guy im not interested in him romantically. I am always told ”
oh thats fine I still had a good time, your pretty I know you’ll find
what you want” vs a Black guy who approached me and is chatting and I
dont want to say he isnt my typesince I dont want to be mean. So i say
thanks you were really nice but im not interested . I get “i respect you
but why not? Or fuck you i didnt want you no way. ” oh you must think
your white but your a nigga which makes me laugh at such childishness.
My point is dont change and pick up some “swagger” There is a reason
why a non white women would think you’re a great person worth knowing
more and attempting to mimic some behavior not normal to being you wont
work in the long run
I never ask if Im any non-
black guys first “colored” date or relationship. Bc most times I was .
Fact is the most common interacial couples is Black Men and White Women /
White guys and asian women. The interracial relationships that actually
last leading to a lasting non divorce relationships is with white guys
being with Black women and Asian women. My personal belief is because
they have put some thought into persuing this kind of relationship.
Unlike how Black mens interacial relationships usually develope on
higher sexual level first, so the intent to have what could be something
lasting if the chemistry is right isnt really there. They are quicker
to move to the next nonblack women and show her how “good he can give it
her” lol
Black women who have never been with anyone
else but a black guy are told he could never love you and you better
watch out. White guys are serial killers and will club you aside your
head and beat and rape you and call you a nigga over and over. Whenever a
Black women knows I dont date Black men Im told some whack version of
this story and they cant believe it hasnt happened to me and Ive never
been called a nigger. Its not that complicated if your simply with a
person respects you …period. But a lot have this fear. My mom was white so she never told me this story LOL
Keep
in mind there are more black women who have their degrees than black
men and many of them have financially supported them. So its not like
there isnt a big pool of women that have something to contribute in a
relationship. Growing up in the suburbs and having two different race
parents I was normally the type that a white guy or asian guy would
find interest in if he were going to date outside. So Ive seen most
sides. The biggest issue Ive seen is the lack of confidence that can
happen. Most Black women have never seen a real thriving relationship
between a white guy / black women . Ive been lucky to see it in my home
and with my aunts or uncles. So she is going to wrongly assume you wont
be that serious or that you couldn’t love her like you could a white
women. That one day her beauty may look ugly to you later. Or just the
guilt ppl espcially BLACK MEN will put on her for being with you.
Which
is only ironic bc the black guys who object the most are the ones who
date outside their race and actually have nothing good to say about most
black women anyhow. If you were a BMW lover you wouldnt seek to get
hear the best things from a Benz lover. That dude is your competion
teams in football don’t ask the other team they are about to play how
they can kick their ass !! Before my Hubby dated me he was dumped by
three Black women bc they either found he was too nice, or they couldnt
take being looked at when in public/ family members didnt like it . Date
for personality within the package your attracted to. Yes there are
some ghetto talking loud black women but arent there some trashy redneck
trailer park nonesense going on on the less classy white side that can
be found? L
WOW! as a fellow WM preferring black woman i agree with ALL of this 100%. couldn’t have said this any better myself.
As I read what you wrote, and thought back to when I was growing up (black kid, raised in a military family, that lived in Europe etc, before coming back to America) I went through that phase were I often got the “you’re not black enough” treatment from black women, when my family moved back to the states, and it only made it worse if I tried to put on a front, you can only maintain it so long. While I ended up dating a most Latina and white women, a commonality among the black women I ended up dating were that they were either also military brats, or their families traveled a lot. So just remember the personality of the particular woman does play a role.
I’m curious what type of black women you tried to approach, whenever I hear this “you’re not black enough” story from a black man, my first instinct is that he approached a ghetto bunny, that loves the thug type. I am a black woman and often hear I’m not “black enough,” so its odd and hard for me to understand black men that try to say they had a hard go at finding black women to date because there are PLENTY of black women that do not stay confined to the stereotypical mold of what it means to be black. I for one have always seen myself as a woman and individual first, before black and I know a lot of black women who would say the same. You are right about the personality of the person, but most black women want to be seen as a women, and their are many that are just being themselves; not trying to act white, so again it’s unbelievable to me that you couldn’t have found a black woman that would of “got” you. The less “stereotypically” black you are the better in my opinion.
Not sure why it’s hard to understand, frame of reference perhaps, some might be compatible others won’t be, some might be interested others won’t be.
It would be all too easy to say they were all ghetto bunnies but no, they weren’t, looking back, cultural differences also drove that comment in some instances, I fall into the ‘Third Culture Kid’ category. Go back, you’ll notice I said the black women I dated were typically also military brats, or were well travelled.
black women are sellout aint no such thing ass good black women nomore
she dont understand its eady for a honkey fall in love with a sisters more than us brothers aint that a bitch
Yes, but the same can be said for black men. Hell let’s list the “unfair” stereotypes on black men, baby mama making, no good doing, can’t find a job, can’t keep a job, always hanging on the corner, only good for a jail cell, thug mean muggin types, can’t speak proper english types, I mean the list could go on and on and on…
I guess you fit that stereotype quite well, so can you blame a black woman for not wanting you?
BUT YOUR A SELLOUT NOTHING ESLE MATTER WHAT YOU SAID YALL ARE SELLOUTS TO HOMKEYS DOWNGRADING YOUR OWN MEN BITCH PLZ U AINT BLACK BITCH U A HONKEY U NOT BLACK HOW TF YOU CAN TALK SHYT BOUT US U NEVER EVEN DATED ONE DUMB ASS BITCH STAY ON THE WHITE SIDE YOUR LOSSE STANKY AS SPUSSY BELONG TO THEM HONKEYS GO SUCK A DICK YOUR MASTER CALLING BITCH U IS NOT BLACK I CAN TELL WACK ASS BITCH
BITCH U AINT BLACK YOU DONT KNOW US U HAVENT DATED OR FUCK A NIGGA SHUT DA SHYT UP WHO U CALLING A NIGGA BITCH U AINT BLACK UR JUST A SELLOUT JUST LIKE YOUR MOTHER SLUTTLY ASS SELLOUT LOSSE PUSSY ASS BITCHES
You make yourself seem so appealing…I wonder if you clean your mouth when you try to talk to a white woman?
I’d imagine you’d be too hood and ‘ghetto’ for her as well haha.
Not all black men want to date you then run but most waste men do – this comes in all colour’s not just black .. and there are good black men out there .
There is more to black men’s character
Believe it or not, I am a black woman myself and I’d been told that all white men are serial killers. So now any time one had approached me, I reject him out of fear. It’s stupid and I shouldn’t be that way but when someone is taught that sort of thing at a young age, it sticks.
You know you are making a lot of generalizations about Black Men when you yourself said you have never been attracted to Black Men, therefore I am sure you have never dated one. How come you feel you can tell others about a group you yourself don’t associate with? I am a Black Women interested in dating MEN period regardless of race. I know plenty of Black Men that don’t behave at all the way you’ve described. So please stop. I am replying to Mary More if this not evident.
As for advice to White Men please just treat us respectfully if you are the type of man that treats White Women respectfully. Simply put Black Women want to be treated just as any other woman does. Not all Women think alike nor do all Black Women think alike. Approach us with the same confidence or shyness you would a non Black Women, you have a 50/50 chance she will either humor you or turn you down flat. I am sure your odds were the same with any other race of woman.
THANK YOU GOD that some people have sense. I read that with my stomach churning, the whole thing was basically written with the purpose of bashing black males. And for what?
Must be the black daddy that left her white momma. Funny I noticed a lot of this from many biracial women. They seem to hate their black dads. As for me don’t have a problem with black men but I don’t want to end up with one
A LOT of ignorance in this post. I don’t understand the insecure people that try to “add” to the wisdom of the discussion just to write dissertations that make you look like closeted racist pricks.
African American women are trash. If u want black women go to africa for actual african women. Or Colombia. Plenty of beautiful afro latinas…
Sorry for the wall of text guys,
I married a black girl. She’s honestly my “diamond in the rough”. I was never really attracted to black women to begin when I first saw her…shit. My immediate reaction was that she definitely looked good enough to be part of my harem. I would of never thought this girl would of ended up my wife.
A few reasons why my wife is great?
1. She’s beautiful, fit, and feminine. Her father is afro-dominican and her mother is biracial. My wife takes care of herself and she’s very much into her fitness and upkeep. Her long natural hair is also a turn on. (No weave, no frizz, just long dark locks.) Her mom is easy on the eyes for a woman of her age, I hope she ages as well as her mother.
2. She’s a damn great homemaker. Traditional. Traditional. Traditional. I cannot stress this enough. She’s a great cook, keeps our house looking immaculate, and she’s an astounding mother. Sometimes it’s like she can read my mind – I could be thinking about wanting lets say a snack or a beer and she’s already off preparing it for me. I RARELY have to ask- she just does.
3. She’s attentive to my needs (inside the bedroom and out). This is pretty self explanatory. She’s never rejected me nor let me down. She’s there when I need her.
4. My wife doesn’t bullshit around. No shit tests. My wife is still in her 20s, but she’s mature enough to get it and to not piss me off with frivolous shit test.
The ONLY aspect that almost ruined a good thing is my wife is too educated. This is what kept me skeptical for a white. I appreciate that fact that she’s actually cultured but she can be too damn smart. Although her parents are traditional and they pushed those traditions onto their daughters…they did cough up a pretty penny to put their girls through college. (Dads idea – he’s not a fan of stupid women). I’m not saying I don’t appreciate intelligence in a women, but there has to be a balance. Two of them ended up with careers, they other two are wives & mothers.
Can you guess which two are happiest?
Moving on, She’s pretty much everything you’d want in a wife and mother. I don’t know how I got so lucky, Even when we were dating- these were the qualities she always displayed. I kept waiting….waiting for to her to mess up, waiting for her to show me that they’re all the same, but still till this day…she proves me wrong.
Bottom line, if I would of stuck to what I knew (which was NOT dating black girls)…I would of missed out on an amazing woman. She gave me a little hope for american women (black women in particular).
a little hope. just a little.
Congrats to you. Actually a lot of non-black men are coming around to your way of thinking. Despite the stereotypes, many black women are traditional, and seek men to who value that. I myself am a stay-at-home mother to four children. My husband is white. Many of us are also not so quick to jump on the man-hating feminist bandwagon, and many of the “issues” traditional white feminists have with men we frankly find trivial, compared to what we have to go through.
Christelyn I agree with you 200%. I myself am not a feminist. And most black women I know aren’t either. What most people seem to forget is that traditionally black women weren’t afforded the chance to stay at home and be the little wife because they HAD to work. Most black women would love to “let a man be a man.” But when the man was not working or properly taking care of the family they often had to “pick up the slack.” So they would love the traditional things feminist complain about.
Another thing is that since many black women are Christians they believe in letting the man be the head of the household. My sister’s bf is White they have been together for a couple of years and are talking marriage. They seem very happy.
The only thing that bothers me in considering a black woman (or asian for that mather) long term is knowing that my children won’t look like me.
Black genes overpower white in most of the cases and my blue eyes will be lost, there is zero chance for my children to have blue eyes if there are not blue eyes somewhere in her ancestors.
It sucks because I find some black women very attractive.
F*ck boring bland blue eyes. Unlike the media would have you believe, there’s absolutely nothing special about them.
If you’re not going to love your own children because they don’t mirror your own looks, you’re not fit to be a parent. Talk about narcissism.
Yeah that seems a little screwed up… heck even the guy who started this thread seems a bit like a misogynist…
That is not always true. I have seen some biracial kids that look just like the white parent. But to each his own.
skin and eye color is but one factor, and depending on her actual racial makeup (ie if there was a whitey in the woodpile), a lot of variation can be expected. There is a notable case of a brown couple having a fraternal twin pair one which was as white as Jimmy Carter’s untanned backside, and the other was as dark as Yaphet Kotto. While it’s true that certain genes are dominant, some features of resemblance can be retained.
Have no fear. If your children don’t have blue eyes, your grandchildren quite possibly can.
You must be new here…
My brother had children with a white woman and the son looks pretty Caucasian with blue eyes and curly blonde hair. It’s really a toss up how bi-racial kids might come out. You can up your chances by marrying a light black woman with light eyes or a biracial woman if kids that look like you are a concern.
I’ve actually seen a few black people with blue eyes here and there, and it’s not uncommon among people who are one quarter black, three quarters white. I used to think that I really wanted to marry a woman who has dark brown hair and green eyes, like me, and make children with dark brown hair and green eyes. I STOPPED caring when I realized how many top quality women I was ruling out.
Light hair and light eyes look nice, I won’t deny, but I no longer see them as a plus or a minus. I’ve come to see brown as the most natural and most human color. There’s something very earthy and beautiful about brown and I am now very open to marrying women with black hair and brown eyes.
That’s a really naive view to have, you do realize the entire reason black people were called colored was because we all literally came and COME in various shades. Black people have some of the most diverse genes and ancestry, my grandmother is as fair as they come and could pass for white if she wanted too, she married a black man–and dark skinned black man–and my mother came out brown skin but with coal jet black hair, people always think she’s from India, me I’m caramel in complexion and people always think I’m a latina. So I have a grandmother that looks white (but she’s black), a mother that looks like she’s from India, and I look latina. And this variation of color is common with a lot of black families.
It’s very possible for your child to have blue eyes. I HAVE SEEN biracial children with blue eyes.
Yet again another ignorant statement,contrary to your way of thinking,dominant genes work both ways,there is a great chancs your children can inherit all your genes,ive seen it look it up before you say these things
Hi! I’m an asian woman (filipino for that matter). My aunt who is also filipino has been married to a white man for a long time now. Her daughter, one of them, has blue eyes and brown hair. So that answers your question! Also, if your wife that you happen to fall in love with has ancestors with red hair or ablino genes, your child could very well end up with having red hair (more orange in my opinion) and or albinism (which is a skin genome disease).
I sort of know How u feel. I am black n didnt Like thé fact That n’y kids might not look Like me. We both had the gêne for blue eyes but One day i realized i Hurt his feelings n got over it. But That kid is à reflection of both of u guys which is événement more beautiful.
What are you talking about? Why would you want a clone of yourself. Your children will look somewhat like you because your genes went into them. There is no such thing as black genes just dominant and recessive phenotypes. God who are the idiots that thumbed you up.
um you do realize that indians look different from black people have have different hair texture so if your grandmother really was black(although it sounds like she was mostly white) then your mother would be mixed. race isn’t about skin color it’s about facial features and hair texture. none of what your saying makes sense
actually i will say my cousin had a half somalian and white daughter who has blond and green eyes like her dad..depends on what type of black women you mix with. i think from what i have seen from my mixed cousins the somalian gene is not as strong..i mean you will have a kid with curly hair but for the most part since we have small features the child gets what ever the other half has. i also have half asian and somalian cousins that look more asian but with curly hair lol..so maybe east African is for you.
really so wait does this mean since most east african people have small features and softer curls that they are not black?
well East Africans do have Caucasian genotype. In a study, it was found that many are at least 40-50 %Caucasian. And just looking at many of them culturally, there is obvious Arab influence and Jewish influence as well. Before you respond, could you actually attempt studying physical anthropology. I’m so sick of people who never know what they’re talking about because they don’t bother to look things up even though the internet is like an online encyclopedia. Jesus. Here let me help you get started.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_anthropology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negroid
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/caucasian-africans/
My brother says the same thing. He wants his children to look like him. It’s nothing wrong with that, but I tell him don’t miss out on someone who may truly be the ying to your yang over something as trivial as this.
My cousin who has a Black mom and White dad had cold blue eyes until he was one years old…
Thanks for your racists remark. So because my mom’s black she can’t look Indian because of some perceived notion of what her physical features look like? Well I have you know my mother doesn’t have the “nappy naps” that you are so slyly referring to, and when I said she gets mistaken for being Indian, it has been by INDIAN PEOPLE. Indian men and women have come up to her and have mistaken her for being one of their own. So take several seats with your diluted view on race.
Unbelievable, you accuse my very TRUE to life experiences as not making sense but then you cite Wikipedia for your sources? Have a seat, because the only fool here is you.
Duh, that’s what phenotypical categories off of, Otherwise why even call her black? What an idiot. And how was I referring to tightly coiled hair slyly? Someone needs to get over themselves. Okay if I’m wrong, then tell me what makes someone black?
See this Is how ignorant you are, because a fool and moronic idiot would actually argue with and tell someone what their family looks like. You don’t know me or my family, so for you to try and TELL ME what my mother grandmother look like is idiotic. Furthermore for you to sit and try to justify your ignorant perception that all blacks tightly coiled hair, white people can have tightly coiled hair, hair texture is not limited to the color of someone’s skin! My mother doesn’t even have tightly coiled hair but what’s the funniest thing to me out of your idiotic brain is that I am TELLING you that Indians have thought my mother was from their homeland. But continue being the ignorant, limited person that you are, please continue walking in your ignorance. You’ll be perfect entertainment for those of us that know better.
Maybe. Not in my case but my eyes are actually darker than my wife’s. I’m Italian American and my sons look exactly like me. Not that it matters. In fact I was anticipating them to look black. You never know when it comes to genetics.
Wow melodramatic much. The characteristic of a black person is brown skin, combined with a round nose, and tightly coiled, wooly like hair. White people can have curly hair that grows somewhat like a fro but it’s not the same textures and when you cut off, the roots of the hair are no the same.
https://books.google.com/books?id=dDrYsjGq35wC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
Do yourself a favor and educate yourself on these phenotypical categories before you argue about them. I’m so sick of all the uneducated people online who know nothing about the geographical clines(“races”) of humanity. Calling me ignorant on a subject that you know nothing of is pure incompetence.
I get mistaken for being Indian (from India not native American). But mostly when I wear my hair straightened! It rarely happens to me these days because I have been natural (rocking a curly afro) for two years now.
My family is Creole and most look it! You know what most people visualize when they hear Creole- light skin, etc… But not me, my complexion is neither dark nor is it light skinned -but resembles darker skin Indians’. Heck, some of my family members have teased me saying I look like I’m from another country (Not America).
Blue eyes in a beautiful woman is just perfect.
Some look just hideous. Yellowish blond hair with negro curls. If not careful they could be caught, killed, cooked and eaten as magic albinos in black Africa.
What an ignorant moron
Geez…the logic of a sociopath.Some of the most beautiful people on the planet are biracial.
You have no idea.
There is no such thing as a Caucasian genotype. Every gene is African based. The Asian can be found in the SAN people. The white can be found in North Africa. And the black can be found throughout. Caucasians are a MUTATUON. Those features are African. Just like ALL features. Race was created to make you feel better about your mutation. For goodness sakes, the geography of the world was a pangea, not 7 continents , for the longest while.
You mean half breed mongrels
Deplorable.
The TRUTH hurts people
Your jiggaboo ass would be all over this like white on rice. And there was a black feminist movement…Audre Lorde anyone? Accepting any ol’ white crumbs that get thrown your way. This site is not a woman’s friend and certainly not a black woman’s friend….but ignore that just because some white dude wrote one freakin’ article praising black women
Oohhh sound like you’re mad
Please don’t use language like that, it makes us whites look bad.
Preach! Im totally confused by how Black women posting are all accepting of this article when it is clearly an insult!
IM BLACK IT A INSULT DAMM SELLOUT BLACK GIRLS
You sound bitter and jealous
Generic response that holds no truth. You sound like a confused dumb bitch with Stockholm Syndrome. Dude (Paramedic Guy) just described his black wife as basically his house slave with too much education, and you see nothing wrong with that? Fucked up to the max. Do you even know what fuckin’ site you are on? The men who write on and admire this site don’t give a rat’s ass about you as a woman…get a clue. Interracial relationships are cool, but to take advice regarding them from a bs site like this? Please. Jiggaboos like yourself will praise any bw-wm pairing regardless of the fucked up circumstance. Sad.
You’re the confused dumb bitch lol! And honey, you’re the jiggaboo. Get a job and get off the internet!
You know nothing about me. You are the confused and hateful soul, not me :).
Heh…but I already have a job. What makes you think that? Oh riiight, just another baseless insult you probably like to hurl at anyone online. Let’s remember, YOU responded to me first. I suppose one could tell YOU to get a job based on the same retarded bs. And why would I get off the internet? That’s usually something people say when they’re too sensitive to handle the truth of others comments. And hateful? A peaceful person wouldn’t have responded the way you did…in any of your responses. You sound like a real Ghandi right there. You just regurgitated what I said to you…..not too bright this one.Don’t come for someone, pulling random truthless crap out your ass, and not think you’re gonna get your ass handed to you. So make up any lies you want, still doesn’t disregard the fact that you and any other black woman fist bumping this dude is nothing but a desperate pathetic bitch.
Who is fist-pumping the dude? You are the retard who could only attack with petulant comments such as ” confused dumb bitch!” You also aren’t to bright yourself. And for the record you didn’t hand anything to me, all you did was make yourself look more like an idiot who shouldn’t breed.
Desperate about what? I don’t want anything that doesn’t want me :). You’re the desperate sounding feminist who is getting all worked up over a fucking internet post lol. Do you get this worked up when articles containing misogyny are regarding non-Black women?
Who is fist-pumping the dude? You are the retard attacking the women who are commenting on this posts.So do not question anyone’s intelligence.And for the record you didn’t hand anything to me, all you did was make yourself look more like a male bashing idiot.
And she’ll wonder why no right thinking man wants to marry her…
La Bestia Sahra • a day ago
“For secure men, it is. He wants her dumbed down for his controlling purposes. And it would make him less insecure to have a “stupid” woman. The black women giving this guy high fives and shit are pathetic and as desperate as they come.
^^The last sentence makes you sound bitter. Get over yourself, darling :).
Calling out a dude for his bs view on black women isn’t male bashing. WTF…. are you stupid? I’m thinking yes. And if your head is that far up white dude’s asses that you see no fault in the article or PG’s comment then you’re thirsty as fuck. You’re just dying to see a white dude with a black woman…..at any shitty cost. And you know, for someone who has the audacity to stupidly assume one has no job, you sure have no problem replying all over this thread to me……. repeatedly. Yes, if I come across fucked up comments online regarding black women, I call them out. Stand for nothing,fall for anything. Weak, spineless bitch.
*to. Don’t call someone an idiot unless you proofread first. That’s all you got? Are you the moronic one who’s forgetting who started this whole thing. You came out the gate with “petulant” comments your damn self and you’re still doing it . In my defense, I at least gave a reason why you and others praising these dudes are desperate. You had nothing…and you’ll never have anything but assumptions. You hurl random insults that could apply to any old body and hope just maybeeee you might get one right. Hilarious.
Too late! 😀
22 people so far think otherwise, cupcake. 🙂
The thirst is real, girl. Lol
“Weak, spineless bitch” ANOTHER pathetic character assassination of a person you have never met. Grow up, darling!
“. You’re just dying to see a white dude with a black woman…..at any shitty cost.” You’re funny,moron! 🙂
What the holy fuck? You really are stupid, huh, Jen. My initial comment doesn’t imply that at all. Know nothing about black women…bitch I AM BLACK. And I’ve been in a relationship with a white guy before and he didn’t think like the author and he sure as shit didn’t think like Paramedic Guy. That was the whole point of my comment….to go after the black women who give guys like PG a pass. The way he describes his wife is despicable…but he somehow still managed to get props from bw. I really don’t know how that got twisted…was pretty straightforward. o_O And the nerve of you to call me angry and bitter. “Go drink bleach”? Bbbut but, Jen love, if I drink bleach…I could possibly die. 🙁 We wouldn’t want that now would we? I may call names in an argument, but bitch you take the cake. Check out this lovely gem: “Jen Danny McClendon • 13 days ago
“And the world would be better if your judgmental ass had been swallowed., you self hating nigger!””
Really,Jen? I don’t care what was said, to tell someone something along the lines of that or “kill yourself” is the lowest of the low…and to cap that shit off with the n-word. You a real piece of shit for that, Jen. The chip on your shoulder is on full display for the whole world to see. You can hide behind “guest”, still doesn’t change the fact that you have a miserable black heart.
La Bestia, I am trying to understand the sense in your comment but there is none. Many black women fall over black when who aren’t worth zhit. some black men are worth a damn, others aren’t. I call any women who falls for a man less than who she is a jiggaboo. Jiggaboo is someone who sellouts for someone who is less than what they are. Anyone one can be a jiggaboo dating someone of their own race, or out side of their race. Just because some people date outside of their race doesn’t make them jiggaboos.
You’re funny as hell. I’m a white guy and agree with your assessment about Paramedic Guy…what a backward ass he seems to be. My wife is black and my advice to anybody reading this is if you don’t want a wife with a lot of horse power that can sometimes be hard to handle then stay away from a good black women because they go for it. I wouldn’t have it any other way personally. I don’t need a weak wife.
LOL jiggaboo.
“described his black wife as basically his house slave with too much education, and you see nothing wrong with that?”
EXACTLY. And all the insecure idiots giving him an up-vote. WTF?
Glad to hear about your experiences. I have had similar experiences with my gf. You make an interesting observation, and it is important, I think, to address it, distinctions among traditional black families. I’m no expert, but I am discussing what I have observed from my gf and her relatives. Because black women traditionally had not been able to ascribe to the white middle class norm of the stay at home wife with a working husband, ie., black women have always worked, black families traditionally raised their daughters to attend to their education. However, contrary to the white feminazi types, they also take pride in their daughters’ homemaking skills. They are to be competent on both fronts; to do otherwise, would be disgraceful, in the eyes of their relatives. I remember the gf once told me that if she couldn’t cook well, her grandmother told her, people would say her mother “didn’t raise her right”. So you have this thing about traditional black families knowing how the world tends to see them, and wanting to create their own reality of respectability. So where you see her as being “too smart,” it might be important to think instead of the value a smart wife brings to your household, incuding in raising your children.
I hope your wife is an adult and not a girl.
The term “girl” can be and often is used to refer to mature, adult women in the modern lexicon. This should be well known, especially to those 35 and under. The term simply is not exclusively applied to underage females in modern lexicon. Just about all who encounter the use of the term in the way Paramedic Guy applied it here should understand clearly what he meant. I’m sure you understood as well.
Don’t play semantics.
I don’t care about modern lexicon. A woman cannot be a woman and a girl at the same time. And, it shows that you all think women and girls are just one big group.
Shut up bitch.
What Scandibro said.
you shut up, h0
Click clack BOOM!
I’m curious did she know these things before you two married? How did she feel knowing that originally you didn’t even consider her anything other than a potential sexual conquest. I mean no disrespect my question, I only ask because I am sort of talking to a white guy and I am very aware that originally he saw me as a sexual experiment. I like your wife, do not wear weave, have naturally long hair, I’m not loud or ghetto, I fit none of the ill-fitting stereotypes often placed on black women and in time he told me he began to see that, but I just couldn’t shake off the fact that this guy saw me as a way of trying to something new sexually. I also can’t brush off the fact that he considers me a potential girlfriend because I’m fairer in my complexion (a coffee, caramel color) and have long hair…if I were any darker than I am with more stereotypical negro like features he wouldn’t give me a second thought. I know this is true because (he’s quite blunt and sometimes isn’t the best in his tact) he told me “yeah I never thought I’d be down for a black girl and if you were any darker Idk if I could do it.” All of those things just honestly killed it for me, I just can’t see myself being with someone who even if they find me attractive, find my fellow black sisters unattractive. How am I suppose to feel special and desired when you think at large black women can’t be beautiful and I’m some exception to that rule…
Anyway, and I do hope you reply back, my question is just how did your wife see past that, your original mentality that ruled black women out of any possibility for a substantial relationship? Knowing some of the things you said, knowing your original attitude towards dating black women in general would I imagine, at least make her hesitant. I understand a level of openmindness and forgiveness helps but still that’s a hard pill to swallow and even harder–as a black woman often not even considered–to feel truly valued and desired.
White or not, men are men. Most look at women with lustful eyes. The difference is in presentation and whether the woman (black or otherwise) sets the tone. I am black and have several guys of all races hit on me and look at me as if I was a piece of meat and they were a hungry lion. I dress conservatively and am conscious of my fitness and appearance. The difference between a man`s initial reaction is the fact I present myself in a way showing I am not interested in being their conquest, one night stand, etc. Those looking for just that quickly disappear. White men are no different.
Thanks for your advice!
HA you just described 98% of all NIGGAZZ! They don’t want the dark woman,they want the lite skinded!
LMAO UR WRONG NOT 98% BUT I SAY 50 50 ALL NIGGAS AINT SAME
I hear you, but it’s not unusual for a guy to start out just being interested in dating a girl because she’s hot or exotic or whatever, and end up falling head over heels once he gets to know her. Your attractiveness brought him to you. Now it’s up to you to close the deal, it that’s what you want.
You’re ignorant and dont even know it,I read your comments and thought vanity mixed with shallownes is at work here,smh,Diamond in the rough really, I just call those types Dimes.
Too educated? Is that even a thing. I was under the impression that intelligence was a desirable trait.
For secure men, it is. He wants her dumbed down for his controlling purposes. And it would make him less insecure to have a “stupid” woman. The black women giving this guy high fives and shit are pathetic and as desperate as they come.
You’re attitude stinks…
You goddamned right it’s a free world…..which is why I exercise my right to voice my opinion against BS comments and articles. That’s kinda how things work.
SHE A SELLOUT ALL WHITE DUDES WANT BLACK PUSSY JUST YOUR TROPHIE HMMMMMMMMMMMM
okay a lot of what you said sounds sexist and the girl you married is obviously mixed
So, you are saying that because I have a PhD, career and don’t want to be a “stay-at-home mom” that someone White wouldn’t want to date me?
Look at the stats. The higher educated the woman , the less likely she is to be married.
Perhaps people who have more education got it because they had time from being single, and not the other way around…
Great story.
congrats to you paramedic. The one thing I will say is that I don’t always believe in the stereotype that women are ‘better’ as mothers. I don’t want to be a mother and prefer the business I want to create as my child. I certainly hope that I will be just as happy if not happier than some women with children. Taking care of kids, raising kids? Not for me. My life is my fruitfulness, having children of my own is not in the picture. Fortunately for you, you met with a mate who compliments your desired life. I am certain I will meet a man who will compliment mine.
Finally. one thing I have to say, Paramedic is if your are the main breadwinner, if you were to loose your job due to an accident, and your wife became the main breadwinner would you be happy? What if you had to stay at home and be daddy mom for the next 20+ years? Life is meant for more than just the stereotypes we place on each other due to matters such as gender, race, ethnicity, or class. Sometimes, finding happiness in the ‘obstacles’ which we would not have thought would make us happiest is part of the greatest joy and humbling experience of life. The diligence of maternity that you may be taking for granted may one day be required of you. Of course, being a stay at home mom would be my night mare (there are no kids I want to be around 24/7 or even 12/7). Keeping my fingers crossed this won’t happen to me.
What kind of reverse bull is this? No weave or frizz. Non-black women wear more weaves and also have frizz. You sound like a mysoginst anyway.
I don’t care that this is two years late. I’m disappointed and rather disgusted that only one person even half-called you on how incredibly sexist your entire post is. I would hope that if the issue of ethnicity and equality is being tackled, then people would be aware of sexism as well (intersectionality and all that) but I guess that’s my fault for expecting such a thing on a pick-up artist website.
I can’t believe that people honestly think that someone being “too educated” is a bad thing. What exactly does intelligence need to be balanced against? Your need to feel superior? I get that people have power fantasies, but to actually spew this nonsense as though that’s a legitimate and respectful way to treat your wife…
And your “harem”? Really? People actually strive for that in reality? Fantasy, sure, knock yourself out, but what the hell, dude?
Oh, there are MANY, MANY disgusting issues in his ridiculous post. What shocked me was how many self-esteem lacking readers AGREED with his ignorance.
(and don’t worry, it’s never too late to call pricks out)
This post was made two years ago, but I have no problem in saying THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST PATHETIC AND OFFENSIVE THINGS I HAVE EVER READ. I sincerely hope you get divorced, and your “perfect black wife” moves on to someone who would actually deserve her.
I realize this post is quite old but i am in need of advice badly. Forgive me and my long post as i am new to this site.
My background is very similar to your wife’s. I am a black girl, young (19 years old) and married to white man. We have a 2 year old daughter and I feel very much fulfilled being a mother and wife and taking care of the home. However, my parents along with my husband, will not allow me to focus on being a homemaker and taking a break from college for a while.
I feel sick when i think about how often my daughter has to be taken care of by strangers at daycare, and how much time and energy I am sacrificing by making my home and family come last after school. I am on the honors list for now, but it doesn’t help me receive any satisfaction compared to how i feel after a day of making sure our home is clean, everyone’s fed, and spending quality time with my family. My parents, who were raised in poverty, believes that if our combined incomes are less than $100,000 a year, then we are failing as adults and parents. My father has even gone so far as threatening to take my car he bought for me at 16 if I don’t leave my husband to focus more on school. (My husband has a truck, but we use my car more often.)
I am expected to be 100% in both roles, but it is too emotionally draining. I feel i’m going to start failing in both areas unless i make a choice. My husband believes that being a homemaker is a good idea for a few months, but that we wont be able to financially support ourselves in the long run if i don’t finish school and start a career. On top of everything else, he wants to add another baby to the mix. I don’t know where else to turn for advice, but i see most men and women on this site are more family oriented so I am hoping to receive good feedback or at least be directed to a post that can help me. Thank you so much
Carefully, with Tazer in hand, avoiding eye contact.
Well, you do appear to have openly endorsed a post claiming that I am all of those things, and more. I’ll take that for what it is.
If you say so. Good luck with your show.
That wasn’t the part I co-signed. I co-signed his doubt about you being an expert on coaching white guys on how to date black girls. No name calling necessary.
White men dating congoids? are you serious? I do not oppose to use white sluts for pleasure, but animals? it is like sticking it in a baboon….
After reading these comments – it’s clear American Black women aren’t missing out. Please keep doing us a favor and stay away. We’re better off without haters.
I can’t get mad about the obsession with foreign women though. I too can’t stand American men (black or White) and feel the only men decent American Black women should consider dating are only ones from Europe.American males are not good matched for American Black women At ALL. Too much racial anti black woman baggage.
Plus European males have more class and more TRUE alpha attributes.
I know plenty attractive decent american black women who are content being single than dating white or black American men.
Well, you can have European men. How about several European “baby daddies”. LOL You go girl!
Thank you for proving my point. EXHIBIT A (American).
that is so stereotypical, how can you label all American men like they’re all the same? I would never say something so closed minded about men or women from another country. I’m disabled and I’m very different from most men, based on my different experiences.I’m uniquely different from most. I will not judge every non-American on your comment or a thousand comments similar to yours because I know there are millions of others from your country that think and act drastically different. Unless you know everyone in America personally, that comment is way off base. What about people born here, raised by sophisticated foreign parents? There are so many different types of people that live in the US that any stereotype is absurd. There aren’t arrogant sloppy fat men or classless sexist pigs in Europe? Ha, yeah ok.. 🙂
BITCH SHUT UP UR A SELLOUT HOW BOUT U GET TF OOUTTA AMERICA
American white men go out of their way to make black women feel horrible and unlike other women and then claim we are angry and masculine. If you treat us bad then why do you expect femininity like the women you treat well just because they are white or are close to white ? Listen to what we are saying. It’s our experiences. European men can be dogs. We know that. Men are men. But there are very important nuances that European men offer such as seeing the WHOLE woman where as American men make us feel bad for being black. Many European men find dark skin an asset. American men literally tell black women that our skin is low social caste. How do you think that makes a woman feel? Like a flowery butterfly who wants to be feminine for him??
They say we intimidate them. How do you think that makes a woman feel…on top of all the stereotypes you all use against us. What bothers me is that white men CREATED THOSE STEREOTYPES ABOUT US in the first place and yet they crucify us with them. Meanwhile European men simply APPROACH us and take us out and actually marry us. White American men are “scared of what their friends and family might say.” Women need MEN not little boys who are scared. Listen to what is being said. White men think we dont lIke them. No. We like white men. We just like white men who make it known that they like us back! It’s men who propagate the women in society. It is NOT the other way around. The reason the Asian and Latina and White woman are open to you is BECAUSE YOU HAVE SHOWN HER YOU ARE OPEN TO HER. Meanwhile white men purposefully close themselves off to black women , stereotype us relentlessly and then claim we don’t want them. Why would we want that ? If white American men truly were attracted to black women , they would treat black women like they treat the Ming Lees, Bridgets, and Marias. You dont. But European men DO.
White American men complain we don’t like them and yet put us around Italian men especially and we melt like butter. Why?because they MAKE IT KNOWN THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO US. To women, that is masculinity. Masculinity is protection and representation. That is her cue to be feminine. You can’t be feminine and submit in unsure waters. While you are all calling us bs,hs and angry and ghetto and mean and fat, many European men are referring to us as “baby, nena, mami…” etc. Women need that. Women need to FEEL like women to men. Just like men need to feel like men to women. But femininity cannot flourish where it is shut off from. Funny how you all understand that when the woman is white or Asian but suddenly get confused when the woman is black. Smh.
Best comment that I’ve ever read on this topic. You can speak the truth but selective ears bent on demeaning black women won’t hear it. Men determine how much femininity a woman exudes. Notice how hard core or ghetto many white women become while dating a black man. Many even change the way they talk and behave, similar to a stereotypical black woman. In essence, they lose some of the femininity that those black men claim to want (but we know it is because of the light skin and ‘good’ hair texture, putting down their own skin color and hair texture 😉 ).
Thank you for that beautiful and articulate post. It has actually made me realize the errors of my ways, I am attracted to black women, however, I’ve been inadvertently blocking any expression towards women of color for many of the reasons that you mentioned. Mostly out of fear of rejection because of the “taboo” element in American society and the belief that most black women aren’t attracted to WM. This comment is very enlightening and I sincerely appreciate it.
Who says that you? What kind of dudes are you running into when they open with “you’re low on the social caste”. That’s the worst example of spitting game I’ve ever heard of. Yeah I’m Italian/irish so I agree with you on the Italian thing. Italians are the black people of white people.
Amazing and on point reply about American Men; especially white men. How can white men expect us to act feminine when we’re treated disdainfully by them in American Society? Therefore, we become assertive women, albeit aggressive to build up our defenses for these so-called men. I advise any black woman looking for a quality white man, go Euro. If you want to stick with a black guy, I have no answers for you.
Black men are the only men I know that will constantly dog their own women, even though they came from a black woman’s womb. If you look at any other race, the men–especially white men–have sought to uplift their women, and there’s intelligence and wisdom in that. When you uplift the women in your race, you uplift yourself, you uplift your race. No matter how much you may try to separate yourself from that of a black woman, remember the world sees you still as a black man, a man with gangbang tendencies. So when you treat your other half as the lowest of the low, you only succeed in lower your own self worth and continue to further your stay at the bottom of the social totem pole. (This doesn’t exempt the OP either and all other black women that have grown to resent black men–although your comment does indeed succeed in defending it.)
YEA RIGHT YALL DOWNGRADE MORE THAN ANY RACE WE ACTUALLY TREAT YALL GOOD ITS DA WHITEWASH OREO HONKEY LOVING SELLOUT SISTERS LIKE YALL THAT DOWNGRADE TO GET A PROMOTION OR GET OWN BOARD WITH THEM GREEN EYE DEVILS FUCK OUTTA HERE U A SELLOUT DONT TRY BLAME US FOR ALL U BLACK BITCHES ARE MOST SELLOUT AND UGLIEST CREATURES ON THIS PLANET
YEA RIGHT YALL DOWNGRADE MORE THAN ANY RACE WE ACTUALLY TREAT YALL GOOD ITS DA WHITEWASH OREO HONKEY LOVING SELLOUT SISTERS LIKE YALL THAT DOWNGRADE TO GET A PROMOTION OR GET OWN BOARD WITH THEM GREEN EYE DEVILS FUCK OUTTA HERE U A SELLOUT DONT TRY BLAME US FOR ALL U BLACK BITCHES ARE MOST SELLOUT AND UGLIEST CREATURES ON THIS PLANET
BUT YOUR A SELLOUT U JUSS DOG US NOW DUMB ASS BITCH STFU N GO BACK TO YOUR MASTER DUMB ASS HONKEY OREO LOVING ASS BITCH
Omg, stfu already. You’re embarrassing yourself XD. You racist stupid white trash. I pray for you.
He’s black, I believe.
Either way, they’re a troll. I took a look at some of their other comments and they’re all pretty much the same. The ALL have pretty much the exact same words like “honkey”, whatever tf that means, “sellout”, “dogs”, “dumb bitch” words like that. They have to get reported, the fact that they’re calling innocent women of colour these names is downright awful.
Probably is a troll, they’re everywhere online these days. honkey is supposed to be a white racial slur, like cracker. He sounds like he’s angry at black woman attracted and/or dating white men. That’s where the “sellout” and “dumb bitch” remarks are coming from I believe. Either way, he’s rude. Insulting innocent women of *any* color is wrong and shouldn’t be tolerated.
Exactly
Wow. So in your feelings. Now, I’m sure it has to be quite frustrating as a black man to be constantly seen as a thug, a hoodlum, can’t keep a steady job, a moron that can’t speak proper English, only good for selling drugs and getting locked up. Making 3 or 4 baby mamas, that’s why your kind are always getting shot down in the streets, because the world sees it as justice because of your male blackness…now all of that I am sure has to be frustrating.
So you would think, from all of that you’d be sensitive to attributing further harmful stereotypes to your race. Your mother is black, and your black “negroey” ass came from her, and you can deny black women all you want, you can mock them with all the negative stereotypes you want, but all you continue to do is the white man’s bidding because remember, that above paragraph is how the white world sees you.
It’s a divide and conquer mentality, and you’ve just laid down like a weak dog to be conquered.
Love it!
True. I say this a lot. If you want really good man go overseas! American men have nothing to offer anymore but sex. If you like white men, don’t let anyone tell you they don’t like you. They do! European men are superior in every way. They are far more charming as they don’t have a chip on their shoulder. They do expect you to nurture (which I love anyway) but they don’t bitch about providing like American men. They dress better,look better, fuck better, age infininitely better, and sexy accents don’t hurt 😉
BITCH NO THEY DONT HAHA TYPICAL ASS SLUTTY ASS FOREIGN BITCHES BUT YALL COME TO AMERICA WHY STFU UR CONFUSED THEY FUCK BETTER NO BITCH YALL JUST WANT MONEY gold digger bitches bitch stay tf away from america
bitch we dont like u its stop saying black men like u know else dumb bitch aint never dating a black men in your life stfu get tff off this site and take your ho ass back overseas and dont come back to america without your greencard or passport bitch which obama allowed u racist muthafuckas to come over here yet a black men bitch watch who u say you hate if it wasnt for us yall woudnt know what to do
Agreed!!! American men can be so degenerate. I notice they are extremely anti black.women and bash us for sport. They created these stereotypes and then use it against us. It’s sickening. Most black women who say they do not want white men are saying it for fear of rejection. White men in America go out of their precious way to deny black women. They will approach any woman no matter if she is in a group or looks angry but will claim black women have to be a certain height, weight , appearance and alone and smiling at him to be approachable. European men allow you to be a woman. American men crucify you for being black and make you feel like you should be excited that they bother talking to you. They are so gross.
You are right. Most of us white men are too scared to handle sistas, and if not usually only want a quick fuck, nothing more. Although I am kind of surprised that black women aren’t as attracted to white or asian men when these men could really up the diversity and strength of their gene pool. I have a dream of going into the dirty and dank hoods of America with a genius asian and impregnating as many black females as possible and then seeing what happens. If we had geniuses breed with all the degenerate hood rats maybe the hoods would get better and eventually cease to exist. It would be nice to have a black son though too.
If you date a negress, you have turned in your man hood. hhahhaha. Sick ducks!
Listen Bro
Black women are desperate. They are looking for a bail out from white men. They think they are all simps that will pay their bills.
Ask yourself this, any black women you ever dated offer to pay half on the bill or even leave a tip?
How many black women ever bought you a gift on a special occasion?
How many of them with kids by different men want you to be the step daddy to that kid?
If black women treat black men badly. You can bet you’re sweet dollar you’re next.
A matter of fact this dude Jermey had one of those black women that “acted” let’s say Caucasian. He had 2 kids previously with a white woman. He gets this black girl knocked up and now he is getting a divorce.
He tried to be diplomatic about it. But he knows the truth.
Even better, the black woman says ” I guess, I will have to get another job to help him with the bills”.
Child please, she ain’t getting another job.
Jeremy is screwed because he pays child support to his white baby mother and now the black baby mother.
He said ” I am broke”.
Good luck with black women bro!
Jeremy should keep it in his pants.
Stop promoting you’re site Mrs Karazin. Come to Mr Laurelton Queens.com All the women on you’re site is washed up and old. They haven’t seen a white guy since the late 80s. Nice try Christelyn. Do you like losing? LOL Dating is not a job, you sound desperate Christelyn. LOL Is the Job training to take the white guy’s money?
I have had one black girlfriend. She was one fine lady and a total ride in bed. She was one of the most beautiful women I have ever been involved with.
And, she is one of the few women that has ever dumped me. I mean, she dumped me cold.
I like black women. Of course they come in all shapes and varieties, just like all other races of women. Some of them are jerks, some of them are not jerks. What I can say without a doubt that I have had some of my most interesting conversations with black women. They “get it” about a lot of things that many white girls are too shallow to understand.
I ain’t banging a broad like the mothers on Fresh Prince or Cosby show. Aisha Tyler looks good and I dig her personality, that’s the type of broad I could have a life with.
But the bigmouth chip on their shoulders, forget it. Come down to it just date an African broad, they’ve got original cultures and know who they are.
Garbage article. That is all.
Sorry you feel that way.
I’m sorry you wrote it.
I’m not.
I have no doubt of that. Such a feat would require a conscience.
I am absolutely 100% certain that if I rocked up in the USA with my blue eyes and my Scandinavian accent, well dressed and charming, I would slay black pussy pretty easily.
Americans are obsessed with race, I don’t give a crap, I have no part in that game. Once a black girl discovers I am an attractive white guy who holds no negative stigma, it is over baby.
I’ve only had african girls though before. They are very feminine with rocking bodies, incredible ass and hip to waist, but sometimes rough faces. They’re not fat and ghetto like you say american black girls are.
Blonde hair and Blue eyes are not attractive to most Black (African) women. They tend to float towards men with darker features… this is what I have seen and this is also what I do.
You’re also full of yourself.
I am happy to see my alma mater represented (Go Blazers!!!!) 3rd most diverse college in the USA. Pretty impressive considering Birmingham, AL was the center for the Civil Rights Movement back in the ’60’s.
No novelty value.At least with a blond or a redhead you get to wonder if the carpet matches the curtains.
I admit that I did not really read the article. Once I saw the word “swagger” I checked out. It is too USA centric for me and I cannot relate.
However, I did scan the odd comment and would just like to say a few things:
1. Perhaps one needs to be specific when talking about black women and not have “African-American” women be the face of ALL black women worldwide.
2. Those who insist that black women with more “seemingly” Eurocentric features are automatically more beautiful than those without are extremely racist, and colourist – and it is both appalling and sick.
3. To the men who criticize a woman who responds harshly to a come on.
Although, I personally always seek to be polite but firm when saying no, I would like to put things into perspective.
The average woman has already been hit on several times pretty much every day of her life since puberty. Majority of these come ons, sadly, are not so polite. And many others do not immediately take “no” for an answer. This can wear on one’s patience or leave some feeling defensive. Think about that.
I am so sure that my words will fall mostly on deaf ears – but for the odd person who might actually open his eyes, well, tant mieux.
4. To the women who wrote comments about black women being generally more traditional and not feminists. Like with all things, there are many expressions of “feminism.” But if, according to you, most black women don’t want to have equal and fair treatment between men and women – which is essentially what feminism is at the heart, then I am concerned. What’s more, being “traditional” and a “feminist” are not even necessarily mutually exclusive; again, depending on how individual paradigms and choices.
I agree with you 100%.
The ‘swagger’ is basically White guys trying to act Black and that can be offensive. I have had White guys put on a Black accent or walk with alimp around me and it is insulting. Just be yourself.
Many people automatically reference African-Americans because we have been the most vocal and visible Blacks of the world for a long time. The strides we made have effected Blacks all over the world. Afro-immigrants come to our country with their nose in the air and not a clue of the history of the people who call it home. I wish more would do their homework before putting us down so harshly considering your freedom to walk in the front door and sit at any table in a restuart is because people like my parents protested and got punched (my own mother was given straight C’s in class for protesting the RAPE of Black women by WHITE FRAT boys on integrated college campuses!). Many brown people look to each other for models of fighting oppresison…African-Americans looked to Ghandi, Moari looked to Caribeans, etc.
Many Afro-Europeans take racism and do not say a word! Black Peter happens every year and they do nothing! The ones that immigrate to the US wear weaves, blue contacts, skin lighteners, too light makeup. It is the African-Americans that have started the narutal hair movement you see going on right now! We wear less make-up and are generally more radical about being Black because of our history. All the African girls I have ever met are so self-loathing and desperate for White boyfriends.
This site is anti-American and so it makes sense that they would rather have a desperate African over a strong willed African-American. We are so diverse in our own race at this point to call us all ghetto is like calling all White people ‘White trash trailer park child molester meth addicts’.
I would die before giving my body to a White man. At the end of the day they will always see you as a joke or a novelty. They will laugh at you on blogs like this and to their friends. No one will ever accept our hair no matter how we wear it. Blacks need to stick together.
This is all I have to say to the above:
This is Why Africans Hate Black Americans http://www.zarachiron.com/2014/03/africans-hate-black-americans/
She is greatly mistaken in thinking that we have similar views.
Please calm down, sit down, and shut the hell up you raging banshee.
It’s refreshing to hear that there are actually men out there who are considering dating black women!
I’m not so sure about the “swagger” aspect of this article. Black women who tend to fall for white guys actually appreciate the less aggressive posture and demeanor that white men often assume.
The reason why so few black women date outside of their race stems from the prior statistic, that black women have the hardest time finding spouses, out of all racial subgroups. Black women have such a horrible stigma attached to them, partly as a result result of media portrayals (which is why the white guys who end up dating black girls are those who have friends of all races, so they have a more realistic picture of the modern black woman).
When guys reach out to date outside of their race, black women are usually the last subgroup that men consider.
When I mention “swagger”, keep in mind that I am not necessarily referring to the aggressive posturing you describe. When I talk about swagger, I’m referring to a certain confidence and the kind of posture/style that comes with it. It doesn’t have to be loud or “in your face”. Don Draper, Tywin Lannister, and Jax Teller are all fictional examples of white men I would consider to possess this kind of swagger. Stringer Bell in The Wire also had this kind of reserved swagger and is a good example of what it looks like in a black male.
African-American men on ghetto street corners are not the only men around with “swagger”, though they unfortunately seem to have monopolized the term in many minds.
Thanks for the clarification!
I am just going to kill myself.
Okay.
The other title for this article could have been “How to destroy 50,000 years of evolution in 5 seconds.”
No, that title wouldn’t work. You can’t destroy a lineage that took “50,000 years” to evolve by using any of the advice I gave in this article. The only way to eliminate a lineage in that manner is to avoid reproduction altogether. Reproduction necessarily involves the continuation of the given lineages involved in it. The only way to avoid such continuation is not to reproduce.
You’re a troll Anthlone. You tried it with this stupid article. You set blacks back 400 years.
How did I know there were going to be a ton of hating black guys on this article when it has nothing to do with them?
Anyways, as a black AMERICAN woman who know many other black women that are interested in white men, I agree with most of the article but just a few corrections…
Most black women that like white guys, do NOT like “wiggers”. That means the kind of white guys who like to sag their pants, listen to nothing but trashy rap music, can only speak slang, thinks being violent is being cool, you know… ghetto. Many people think this is the only type of guy black women go for, but they’re all mistaken. Women who like that type are trashy themselves, why would any man even want a girl like that? Even worse, why would any man want to pretend to be something they’re not to impress a girl like that? Good women want good men, not men with “swag”.
Also, looking for black women with many “white friends”… I’m not sure about that, it sounds sort of racist to assume that having black friends makes you “ghetto”, and having white friends makes you civilized. There’s good and bad in all groups. The majority of black women mainly have black friends (most are actually relatives). Has nothing to do with racism, but it has everything to do with proximity. It’s really not our fault that we’re still segregated, intentionally or not. However it’s not hard to make friends with some black women. Just keep this in mind, respect comes from respect.
Ok now I get attention sometimes from white men but alot of is b/c some men are not sure what race I am. However, as the article mention, very few white men have actually been with black women. There is a reason why very few white men have actually been with bw. It is b/c black women are this race of women that hardly no American men would want to date or sleep with. I am curious as to why any white man would want to date something that hardly no other man would want. The percentage of American men that would want to date any bw is not much higher than the percentage of men that would want to date a female hyena.
Lmaoooooooooooooooo troll. Pathetic.
You only prove how cluelessly “white” you are by pretending race is a non-issue. No truly smart black woman will let you get away with that bs. And Dr. Caveman…breaking down a diverse group of women into three categories? In which two are completely negative? Yeah. That’s a great indication of how “accepting” you are towards black people. I’d definitely want to bring YOU home.
Beautiful woman is it beautiful woman ! A good woman is a good woman ! I have never had no problems with it in fact I think it is more healthier for the gene pool and the children from these relationships tend to be more accepting and beautiful inside and out ! I have always been more attracted to women of different races this is not of my choice it in my makeup
Swagger? Are you freaking kidding me? I’m African American and I prefer the more grungy/punkish types. Swagger does not typically fall into that sect. I’m not looking for men with “swag”. I hope white men hoping to date/court black women do not do this.
Black woman haters on this article:
60% black men
15% black men pretending to be white men
25% non black men
Black men claim they don’t care who black women choose to date yet they’re always on articles pertaining to black women spewing hate. It’s hilarious how they think they have the room to talk, but I wont go there.
As for the other non black males, we’re not losing any sleep over you especially since I sense most of you are probably some fat, old, balding, tailor trash racist.
People seriously need to stop investing so much time and attention in the lives of black women, all of this obsession is beginning to be creepy.
LOL, yeah right,
So several times on You Tube I’ve explained my horrific experiences dealing with white men and now that I have stumbled upon this site, I will tell you my views.
I am a beautiful, intelligent, educated, self loving black woman, who can hold down a intellectual conversation and I have a loving kind heart.
This information about myself may seem like I’m looking for a date, well I’m not, I’m engaged to a wonderful black man of five years and everything is solid.
This black man that will be my husband, is the first black man I have ever been with, the reason was fear and judgement, I’m not going to get into why my feelings towards a black man was so negative, but I will talk to you about my negativity views towards white men.
I’ve dated white guys since my teenage years, and had it pretty rough. There was lots of abuse, and unhappiness. Finally at age twenty-six I hooked up with a nice white guy and had two wonderful awesome sons together. The relationship last for thirteen years, but out of those years was pain, I had to deal with his demons and he had to deal with me. What a fucking emotional ride that was and would I do it again absolutely!!!! not.
My opinion about white men is this…
1. Crazy
2. Disrespectful
3.Fake, not your true self
4.Condescending
5.Inferiority Complex
6.Quick to accuse with a rough scary tone in your voice
7.Physically and Emotionally abusive
8.Always comparing yourself as better than
9.Superiority Complex
10.Lazy
11. Judge mental
12. Rude
13. Embarrassing
14.indecent
15.Sometimes you smell and you know it, but your comfortable.
16.Cheaters
17.Backstabbers- You feel it’s a joke to tell your business to your friends and family about your interracial relationship
18.Womanizers- can’t settle for one, because you feel the need to have them all
19. Always talking about race relations when you need to chill and let things roll
20. Inappropriate conduct
21. And never happy
Yes I do understand that there will be some pissed off white men, but hey you brought this shit on to yourselves.
I get some black women that glorify and dance around bowing down to white men like their pharaohs from Egypt, telling me that not all white men are the same, Excuse me, I’m saying they all are losers and use women of color especially black women as some kind of fetish game, to get your rocks off.
My two sons, who are wonderful and so smart, are my pride and joy and yes they have a close relationship with their father. My sons do not know my views about white men nor will they ever.
My Black prince of Egypt, works and has no children of his own, I don’t have to work, I stay home and tend to the home, theres always something in the oven when he gets home from work, lots of hugs, kisses, peace and love. Also there is communication and understanding, something you white guys lack, and overall he is a good man who loves my sons as if they were his own.
I will consider myself to be a lucky woman who has found her prince charming, who is nothing like the above description.
White man you are going to be a lonely one, nobody wants you, nobody cares.
BZ as Always
Lmaoooooooooooooooo this isn’t a black woman talking. You’re a troll.
Good for you!! All of this ‘white men are the best thing since sliced bread’ talk was getting nauseating!
You are so lame and fake it’s almost unbelievable.
I’m a black female and ive only dated white guys. Not a preference but all my life they’re the ones that constantly hit on me so the rule of probability. ….. Here in the UK interracial r/ships are so common no one bats an eyelid. True there are a LARGE group of white men who just want to fulfill a fantasy which is obvious by the way they come onto you, grab parts of your anatomy and look like they want to devour you. But then theres a group that don’t see colour and just really really like you as a person and everything else is a bonus which is evident in the way they are with you when you’re in a r/ship with them.
Think in the US the fear of the unknown plays a huge part and probably the fact that white men feel ‘oh she won’t find me attractive’. Well black girls love white men. Think any women is attracted to men who look like they take care of themselves, can take care of a women (no im not talking money), and will treat her right. Think the media portray black women as loud ghetto chicks but that is just media stereotyping. I don’t know any black women like that. In fact all the black women I’ve met in my life always seem delicate, sexy as hell and a whole bunch of fun. True there are some black girls loud and full of attitude but there are girls like that in every other race. The media just portrays white women to be the most delicate sort after race of women so men think that’s bible. Plus I don’t know where this stereotype of black women as gold diggers come from?? Black girls would like a man that’s not going to impregnate her and run off. The whole stereotype of single mothers is more an issue with the men not the women. And to be honest if you do look at what’s portrayed in the media, it seems that most white women in mixed relationships come across a gold diggers suddenly in a r/ship with a black man who’s loaded and an NBA player, celeb etc, the loyal black woman being kicked to the curb.. just saying…!
Oh also I’m married to the sexiest most amazing white man ever and the cutest thing is he feels im way out of his league. Met him first age 16 then met again 10 years later and the rest is beautiful history. I’m 29 🙂
I am in a bw-wg relationship, my first. I am divorced after 30 years, and did not expect to date, much less be approached by anyone, especially a black woman. Confidence, kindness, and personality are what she said made her come to me. Be yourself and don’t “be down wid dat” to show how cool you are with people of color. They are like anyone else, be who you are and it will work
and dont assume she’s just like the stereotypes you’ve heard about black women….
My view on this if we all look at ourselves and really focus on who we should date if the truth be told we all have a mixture of black and white in us from each side,and the reason people still can”t except a white man with a black woman because deep down inside they know we are a like in so many ways. I love all races and I am a black woman that knows who she is and the type of man that I am looking for color does not matter as long as he has a good job and his own place and ride and his finances is straight and well groom from his head to his feet ,and treat me like the queen that I am . Any white guy out there that reads this just know that us sisters out here just want you to be yourselves we don”t have to talk about race who cares, because if I am into you and you into me we can stand against all odds.
This article is mostly crap!! The first sign is the constant mention of black men with white women. Enough of that garbage. It’s in our face (dark black women) EVERYWHERE!! Second, what’s that thing about swagger? That’s just a stereotype. Intelligent Black Women want an intelligent white man who is his OWN man and not trying to act like the stereotypical black man image which is street and ghetto!!
The biggest annoyance with this article is the comment on “Swag,” most black women that date white men do NOT want a man with swag, we want a gentleman, we want a man that ACTS like a man. Swag is for boys and wannabe thugs, there is absolutely NOTHING attractive about having “swag,” when I see any black man (or non black man) walking around living their life according to the code of “YOLO” and “SWAG” I almost want to barf, that entire attitude screams player to me, and honestly I’m not attracted to it. What is attractive is someone that can make you laugh, keeps a smile on your face, not because they spend hundreds of dollars on you but because they cherish you, they value you as a woman, a man that has ambition, not because you want someone to supply your shoe habit, but because its a motivator for you to keep your ambition. Swag, that doesn’t matter and you should certainly never change yourself by adopting character traits that aren’t your own. Just be yourself, and promise if you just treat a black woman like a woman, not a black woman, BUT A WOMAN, she will adore you.
If you don’t take anything else from this article, at least take the author’s first point. Don’t use a black woman as a means for a sexual fantasy, treat her like a lady and your love and respect will be given back in double.
Late but commenting regardless….
Define swag. In the context of the thug mentality that you speak of, then yes, no one needs to part of that at all. But you have to remember that society in general doesn’t teach men how to be men, so they’re on their own to reverse the trend.
Swag can mean lots of things. It’s being confident, arrogant (which women like whether they admit it or not) and overall carrying yourself with some dignity & respect. That’s “acting like a man” as you put it because remember, society expects men to act like women trying to get in tough with our feminine sides which is complete bullshit.
Just don’t take the word swag and lump it in with “thug” and complete distort it’s meaning.
I would also make one more suggestion. Do not base a black woman’s openness to dating outside of her race on who her friends are, from first glance sure this sounds logical but its actually not and it may limit you in the black girls you do get to date. I have only dated outside of my race but don’t have many female friends that aren’t black. Why? Because a lot of white girls prejudge us black females as well, I grew up in a religious conservative home, my mother was a vegetarian, health fanatic basically, I went to one of the best schools in my county, was on the swim team and field hockey team in hs, I was basically everything but the stereotype of a black woman and even though I am open to other cultures (as I see myself as an individual over another part of a race) the majority of the world does not see me that way.
I am judged all the time, and even still once they begin to realize I’m not like the stereotypical black female, I often become the cool “token” black friend, the one that’s used to say “oh yeah, I’m cool, I’m educated about race, I’m not racists because I have a black friend.”
Yeah that’s not fun.
So although I do tend to associate with a lot of people outside of my race, my closest friends are indeed black women. They are the ones that I can come home and cry to when I find out the boy I’ve crushed on only sees me as a sexual escapade…they get it. They are the ones I can vent to when I hear a black guy bash and clump all black women up into one disparaging package. They get me and I appreciate that, but that doesn’t mean I’m close minded to dating outside of my race.
If you look at the personality of a person, judge them by how they act in all environments, how they speak, by the type of conversations you have, and overall how enjoyable your time is with them then you’ll never go wrong in finding a suitable woman for you.
So true! I couldn’t have said it better myself. By the way, who was the moron who came up with the grand idea that white women are the most accepting and educated? LMAO Most white girls are, simply put, airheads and they don’t even realize it. They are also incredibly shallow. Then a few of them hook up with black men and suddenly white girls are viewed as accepting. The majority of intellectual and interesting conversations I’ve had have been with black women.
best way; have a lot of money, be successful, be confident, be good at some type of sport. Don’t try to date any woman, whatever race, that isn’t in college and/or doesn’t have a job. If they don’t, they are likely lazy gold digger. Hell and if she doesn’t have a job and you still get with her and she moves in, she better help you out around the house when you’re out working your ass off. She has to do more than look pretty and be laying in bed all day in her underwear, waiting to get screwed. Might be great for a while but it gets old real quick. And if you’re rich enough to afford a maid and a cook, she better have a hobby or be doing something valuable with her time, other than just spending your money.
I have male nurse that is black, he is hardworking, ambitious, confident and is 44 years old. He is always getting with these young girls, like 19-24, don’t remember any of them going to college or even planning to go to a small community college. None of them had jobs or even looking for one. Guess they just looking for them a sugar Daddy to provide them with there every selfish desire. 🙂 A lot of times it’s a generational thing and dependent on how they were raised and where exactly. Yes in my opinion he is a player but it seems to me the reason he is like this is because he’s given up a bit on women in general, or more specifically on finding love, based on past bullshit he has gone through. So now he gets something young and tender until the physical part gets old and starts dealing with more shit than it’s worth, he moves on. Oh yeah and none of them cook, clean or lift a finger to help him out. Lazy entitled generation.
best way; have a lot of money, be successful, be confident, be good at some type of sport. Don’t try to date any woman, whatever race, that isn’t in college and/or doesn’t have a job. If they don’t, they are likely lazy gold digger. Hell and if she doesn’t have a job and you still get with her and she moves in, she better help you out around the house when you’re out working your ass off. She has to do more than look pretty and be laying in bed all day in her underwear, waiting to get screwed. Might be great for a while but it gets old real quick. And if you’re rich enough to afford a maid and a cook, she better have a hobby or be doing something valuable with her time, other than just spending your money. I have male nurse that is black, he is hardworking, ambitious, confident and is 44 years. He is always getting with these young girls, like 19-24, don’t remember any of them going to college or even planning to go to a small community college. None of them had jobs or even looking for one. Guess they just looking for them a sugar Daddy to provide them with there every selfish desire. 🙂 A lot of times it’s a generational thing and dependent on how they were raised and where exactly. Yes in my opinion he is a player but it seems to me the reason he is like this is because he’s given up a bit on women in general, or more specifically on finding love, based on past bullshit he has gone through. S now he gets something young and tender until the physical part gets old and starts dealing with more shit than it’s worth, he moves on. Oh yeah and none of them cook, clean or lift a finger to help him out. Lazy entitled generation.
Thanks for the complement.
But just be open for love because I know a lot of great white women who are strong and sweet. When it comes to approaching black women..just say “hi” and let the vibes flow.
Well I’ll start off by saying post like THESE contribute greatly to the lack of white men/black women relationships. If you are interested in someone, simply GO FOR IT! The worst thing they can do is say no. Now that’s that.
Now I’ll touch on a few subjects in this post and white men and black women in general.
Not all black women (who Areal woman knows that how you treat her will always overpower swag, period. All types of women (black, white, biracial, Hispanic, Asian, etc..) may or may not put a huge emphasis on “swag” so let’s not put that all on black women.. because white, Hispanic women all date black men for the same reasons too.. (swagger, sexual stereotypes, confidence, etc..) especially in today’s society where hip hop has a great impact.. there are mainly foreign (non black women) you see on TV and in videos with black men with swagger. So that being put soley on black women, is false and unfair. 100% pure black women are some of the most down to earth women because a lot of us aren’t raised with a silver spoon in our mouths so we get it!
The fact if the matter is, everyone should have confidence in themselves and their abilities. If you’re intimidated that badly, maybe interracial dating just isn’t for you. We will never overcomes stereotypes if we’re still entertaining them and not finding out for ourselves. Not that stereotypes can’t be extremely accurate, but the point is, they’re not always accurate either. You may think that you can read someone perfectly to a tea and be completely mislead. TRY IT FOR YOURSELVES.
Now I totally agree with the whole novelty thing because I have had a girlfriend.. Interested in white guys and she and I both knew that he was “testing the waters” while with a white girl because he was always mentioning sexual things to her. I love white men but I refuse to be an experiment or to be used to “see how it is” by not only white men, but any man. That’s a matter of self respect. No one can make you an experiment if you don’t allow it! If you’re a white man genuinely interested in black women, do stray as far from that as possible.
I notice more recently than ever that black women have such and urge to date white men that they’re almost appearing as if they’re desperate.. If it’s not mutual, it’s not right. If you have to change who you are then maybe you should reconsider. Love should be comfortable. There shouldn’t be a need to walk on eggshells to try to impress someone.. And that goes for any human being. You are who you are! And anyone who wants to date you should accept that.
And for white men.. It sometimes seems that for a white man to date a black woman, she has to have all these ridiculous qualifications. Cut it out. If you can’t accept a black women for what she is, then stick to what you know. No black women wants to feel that she has to be a certain way to get or keep you. Especially if that way, isn’t normally hers. For example(s); she has to have real long hair.. not every black woman has long has and every race of women wears weaves.. there are plenty of white women who wear extensions and etc. she has to cook and clean and keep the house tidy.. that’s a role all women take naturally, but you can help.. there’s white women who can’t cook or clean so why do we get shit for it.. we are not your maids. Don’t treat her like she is a job applicant needing to fit your qualifications or your own personal slave. She’s your partner, and should be treated and loved as such. Also, this whole thing about black women having attitudes.. All women have attitudes. If you can’t handle it, find whoever best suits you!
I believe interracial relationships, especially between and white man and black woman can be exceptionally beautiful but we have to get over these stupid stereotypes first. C’mon, it’s 2014 okay.. Stop looking for that one thing that a stereotypical white boy thing to do or a stereotypical belch girl thing to do. You might find your soulmate..
Thank you so much for this. I only wish more people had read it and upvoted. Especially the silly expectations they have when dating out of their race.
Ummm, what in the world did I just read!?!? And as a Black woman, what is a “typical Black American?” I just cant with this “article” the subtle hints of ignorance frustrates me.
Elaborate a bit more on precisely what you find problematic about this article. I would be happy to discuss these concerns.
I don’t really care about swagger XD because to me its kind of a turn off i just want a smart educated guy that i can be myself around
I am attracted to white females and have never had any interest in black females with beautiful natural features. I am always surprised at articles regarding whites and blacks that are peppered with photos of light black females with straight hair and exotic eye colors and facial features that are from intermixing or have been modified.
If a white male is attracted to a black female with physical traits that are from the white race than how can we say that he is really interested in black woman.
I would like to see an article that showed beautiful natural black females and white males who are not trying to be anything other than themselves.
You are right… I have to say.
This article is pathetic. I am a black woman dating a white male. I actually approached my boyfriend ( met on a dating site). When I made first contact with him, I did so by making a very light joke and THAT is what got us to talking. Not this BS written in the above article. I wasn’t looking for a white male. I was looking for a companion, plain and simple. God was true to his word and it just so happened he brought me someone who was white. I do not pride myself on being in an interracial relationship but rather, a healthy relationship with a man who I am deeply in love with and who reciprocates that love.
People want to be treated like people despites their ethnicity. You do not need a damn guild or handbook for how to date a black woman or any other woman ( or male). If you’re interested in someone, that is more than enough to make most out of the initial contact.
Hello Kaimee.
I’m happy for you and your boyfriend. It is good that you were able to approach him and make something work.
“You do not need a damn guild or handbook for how to date a black woman
or any other woman ( or male). If you’re interested in someone, that is
more than enough to make most out of the initial contact.”
Unfortunately, Kaimee, not everyone is as gifted as you are with regard to the initiation of romantic relationships.
Many men and women have a hard time approaching the opposite sex and conveying their interest to individuals they like, much less actually turning that interest into a tangible relationship. Some have no idea how to make initial contact. Many others can make the initial contact, but are utterly clueless as to how to move things forward beyond that stage. Some get beyond that stage, but consistently fail to maintain said progress for anything more than a fleeting moment or two.
Merely “being interested in someone” really isn’t enough for many people to make the most out of their romantic lives and turn initial contacts into great relationships the way you have. I am happy that it is enough for you (you’ve been quite blessed in that regard), but others require a lot more in the way of study, trial, and error before they can get anywhere. You should be a bit more respectful of them – you have been blessed, and that is nice, but not everyone is so lucky.
This is so disgusting and vile the article and the comments. I am offended as a black woman at the idiocy.
What specifically about the article offends you?
The part about judging her openness based on the friends is just wrong! Very far off!
Not in my experience.
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Being a black girl who wants a white guy, I have found it very difficult to date one. I have ran across men that have told me that a black was good enough to f&[email protected], but they weren’t good enough to be a wife. I really don’t understand the complexity of it. Yes, my skin reflects the light differently than another’s, but they doesn’t affect my quality of being a good woman. After reading this, I found that it seems like there is more science to wanting to approach an interracial than it really should be. Maybe I’m too open, I just know that I would like an interracial relationship, and I’m not finding that very easy… Darn all the stigmas!
Hmm, sounds like we have some things in common. First of all, your not too open. The problem is that many people are too closed. Recently, I’ve had difficulty with what you are describing. What state are you from? I’m a lifelong Virginia resident. Tell me a little about you if you would. You can mail me at gmail, the addy is tdcole131980atgmail.com.
FUCK BLACK WOMEN DAMM SELLOUTS
Most of these women are mixed, not black.
I can see why some black women would be offended by this article, but as a black girl that has grown up in a predominantly white area. I see why this Article is necessary for some men.
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I’ve often wondered if I don’t get approached because they “assume” (erroneously!) that I wouldn’t date outside my race. When I was younger (e.g., high school) I let plenty of guys know I was interested in them and got shot down a lot because if my race or because my looks were ‘too ethnic.’ Now I live in a place where there are a lot of black women married to white men and they are all ranges of sizes, naturalness, and skin tone. Still. Nothing.
I’m physically more attracted to white or Italian males but they’re afraid to approach me. (It has taken me a while to admit this. I would generally date light skin black men or mixed guys) I’m a highly educated beautiful black women and I have a strong stigma against approaching men. I’m approached daily by black males but they’re not what I’m interested in at all. I might have to move out of state since interracial dating is less prominent in Louisiana.
I’m a little bit of the same. Since I was a little girl, I’ve been more attracted to white boys/men. Black guys approach me, but I’m not always interested. Nothing against black men, because they’re super cool! There are handsome men in every race, I just tend to be more attracted to white men. Although, there is one thing that puzzles me about the article. Why exactly do people feel that, in order to date a black woman, they have to change themselves? What about the women who just like the, and I say this loosely, “typical white man”. With no, quote unquote, “swag”, who aren’t the best at “dancing”, and who are just being themselves. You shouldn’t have to change for anyone. Don’t get me wrong, if that’s what you like, then do what you enjoy. But, don’t change who you are to date a black woman. Some of us like you just the way that you are.
You hit the nail on the head! I’m interested in someone who can truly be who they are naturally. I can’t stand when non black men try to “be down”. For a lack of better words. Being yourself is a turn on no matter how corny or goofy lol… now latin men is a whole different story lol! They are so much like us its insane yet different. I think Im just naturally obsessed with cultural differences its intriguing for me. I’m totally open to meeting people from different backgrounds. Close minded people are really missing out. I think in the near future questions about ethnicity will be extinct lol biracial people will take over lol
It’s great to see an article that doesn’t bash Black women. I notice there are a lot of trolls on this webpage whom I believe to be non-Black women or Black men along with the occasional White guy. There is no point in bashing any woman based on race.
Race just describes someone’s color, not their personality. I am a Black girl who is into final fantasy. I love Chopin. I have programmed in Java. My race just describes my skin color and perhaps some features. Although, we are mixed up, features cannot just tell one story of race.
Black women are not desperate. We are soft and sweet, but most of us( excluding the World Star Hip Hop crap that you see) have to grow up quickly. We have to protect ourselves and survive. Most of us have our defense up as you’d find with some other women who aren’t Black.
You are a perfect example of what I wrote about in my first comment. You actually get it, unlike many white women. I am so sick and tired of the brain washing that conservative media outlets like Fox News do to the mainstream public. Ironically, the issues you named seem to be much more common in white females than black. The only reason that it seems to be more prevalent in one group is because the media attempts to brainwash people to make them think that way.
It is very similar to the way they have successfully convinced poor white folks in rural areas to go against many of their own best interests by voting Republican. As an individual who lives in the middle of nowhere, I see this daily. The biggest reason the Republicans have won over the vote in many rural areas is the fact that many of these folks are ignorant white folks with an education similar to that of a fifth grader. When you look at commercials, the vast majority of those run by Republicans or the Tea Party dopes are very simplistic. They count on white folks out in the country being stupid like West Virginians. Even though I live in the country, I’m smarter than a fifth grader. LOL
I am a black female and married to a white man. 18 years and counting and still loving my white prince. White guys rock!
I’m black and I find white guys extremely attractive Idk I just do . I’m currently single and I’m very open minded when it comes to dating .
I don’t think this article is totally correct…I’m a black female with an interest in white & Japanese males. I don’t have any interest in black males whatsoever. So I’m not looking for a guy with “swag” or anything…that actually agitates me, not to mention it means you’re gay haha… I prefer a guy that is cute and funny, and won’t try and totally dominate me. I’m pretty random, and I think it is the best thing in the world when a guy has cute hair, lame jokes, and isn’t pushy. I’m really not in it for the sex…like, wait until marriage…but yeah…So I guess don’t stereotype when you’re giving advice…
So you want a pushover type for a man? How can you respect a man that will let you walk all over him?
No, not at all…I don’t want to “walk all over” anybody either, I mean I don’t want to be dominated in the way like, I want you to do this, and you have to because I’m a guy (or something), or have a guy who’d expect you to jump at his every command. I’m kinda saying I’M not a pushover, we’re supposed to help each other out, not one side being basically an overly loyal dog to its owner.
Trying to give an example…if you tell (preferably ask) me to cook, I expect you to do it sometimes, or if you can’t, do something in return like wash the dishes. I’m not your slave, don’t expect me to do everything, and you’re not mine so I don’t expect that from you either.
I just want us to be equal I guess, if I love you I’ll do whatever I want for you, to make you happy, just don’t make it a requirement c:
Stupid whiggers
How can white people talk about black women. All white guys are mixed and black people have the most diverse DNA so there isn’t one look. We don’t know what black Eve looked like. She could have been light with greys eyes and an Afrio. And you shouldnt generalize if you dont want to be. Are all white guys racist devils with inferiority complex?
I used to be a phone guy down in the DC area, I met women of all the races and tribes. I dated a black chick for a few months. This woman was tall, thin, educated and pretty damned snappy in repartee. I could never date Ghetto, but this chick was lovely. Whatever race or tribe of woman, I have to have thin for the motorcycle. Anyway, we’d take the bike out to the mountains, the vineyards, outta town together. This was Virginia, I had a concealed carry license back then and in our travels out on the bike, I’d never fail to carry my weapon when she was with me but mostly because I was concerned about white guys, rednecks.
Fast forward to Winchester, Va., we’re at an old mall called Apple Blossom, we’re catching a smoke before getting back on the motorcycle for the ride back to DC. So, three black dudes approach and start in with the “Hey Mama, what you doin’ with him” routine. It was like the white kid in Gran Torino with the Asian chick in the bad neighborhood that Clint Eastwood rescued. I didn’t have to even un-holster my pistol, just held one side of my jacket out showing them the butt and they made like *I* was the crazy one and ran off. Even then I had a Kimber 1911A .45 Competition Match with uncountable Trophy upgrades complete with Federal Hydo-Shok hollowpoints, a real race gun (I’m a nut). I’m 6’1″ and 195 anyway, not that I could handle these three with bare knuckles. Maybe they thought I was a pussy on initial approach. But if you aren’t prepared to go heels, maybe the bigger threat is Black guys, rather than whites. Be prepared because those dudes DO NOT appreciate a White Guy dating a cute Black woman. Times have flipped and even in Redneck-Land, be careful.
I’m white (from Denmark) and I’ve been in a relationship to a black woman for almost seven years. We have been married for almost six years. We have a daughter. We actually started dating the first semester in graduate school. She is originally from Nigeria but grew up in United Kingdom. She has a rather distinct London accent and has a Nigerian-British identity. After graduate school we decided to stay in Chicago and not move back to Europe. We live in a mostly white community and our shared friends are mostly white. For obvious reasons my wife has never had a deep connection to the African-American community. Her black friends are mostly expats from Africa or United Kingdom. There are some cultural issues between us when it comes to food, culture and family. I cannot say I adore Nigerian and British cuisine.
There are also some political and religious differences between us. She is a politically social-conservative and catholic and I’m (more) libertarian and (secular) protestant. We raise our daughter catholic in the sense that she is baptized within the church but there is little religion if any religion in our home. I had no particularly intrest in dating outside my race. It just happened that I fell in love with a woman and she happened to be black.
And that’s why European men are better than white American men. All in one comment.
I’m white and I’ve been with my wife who is black for 18 years. I wasn’t interested in her because she was black but because she was the hottest woman I had ever seen. My advice on how to treat a black woman romantically? First treat her the same as any woman you have been romantically involved with. (Assuming you know how to treat a woman well.) Be prepared to ignore people’s reactions to the relationship or at least refrain from losing your temper over attitudes about it because it never ends. Be prepared for some people in your life to treat you differently and let them go on their way if it comes to that. Understand she may well have a different attitude about things than you are use to and accept it. Except that your children could look completely black, completely white or traditionally bi-racial. To be honest it’s not for light weights because many people both black and white don’t approve. A minor annoyance for me is that sometimes the random black guy thinks he has the privileged to be more familiar with my wife than is proper. I don’t go for that crap and I get that straightened out as soon as it happens.
“I’m white and I’ve been with my wife who is black for 18 years. ”
Your wife has been black for 18 years? WTF? Can’t explain it, don’t understand it but good luck.
Commas can do good things.
Ah fuck off you miserable troll. If you didn’t understand that, you are a complete dumbass.
I’m sure most people would have understood it as humor. Commas can change the meaning of a sentence. You also have zero sense of humor about it. Google it. I certainly hope you recover from your anger and laugh about it.
I’m not mad at all. Don’t flatter yourself. I read your other comments on your profile before responding. There was a theme. Have the courage to say what it is that you didn’t like about my post and quit trying to be cute. I’ll just stick with my first impression and say fuck off troll.
Yuck
Its actually somewhat surprising when you get right down to it the lack of understanding among ALL races in dealing with other ethnicities. Without even realizing it, many folks grow up in prejudiced families. It took me a long time to understand the amount of prejudice there is among many members of my own extended family. Historically, having dated black women and white women over the years, I have found that black women are much more interesting. I find many of them to be more intelligent overall, than white women, regardless of education. A lot of white girls either project themselves as airheads, or truly are, clueless! Asian women I’ve never been interested in. I simply have yet to lay eyes on an asian woman appealing to me. Perhaps they’re out there somewhere.
In many cases, I have found black women to be more caring, with deeper feelings than white women. There are a share of black women who are prejudiced, but I get along well with many of them also. From my observation, I find many white girls to be pretty boring and shallow. Substance is very important when seeking a significant other.
You may or may not find this surprising, but I am a white guy. Despite some of my previous comments, I don’t have a vendetta against white girls. In fact, most of the ladies I dated early on, were white. I just typically find many of them to be boring and superficial. In the household I grew up, there was a lot more prejudice than I even realized.
Even though my mother did an excellent job raising me and taught me to be welcoming to all people, over time I came to realize that even she was somewhat racist. I myself grew up racist. Hey, a person’s attitude is often reflected and molded by the atmosphere in which they grow up. This truly became obvious when I look back at some of the comments she made about former girlfriends of mine who were black. When I reflect on this, it makes me sick. My mother was a very loving and caring person who was unlucky enough to grow up in a racist family.
I am amazed when I look at how my views have changed over time. Amazingly, I voted for McCain over President Obama in 2008 mostly because I didn’t want a black man for president and because I was still a Republican. Much of my family is staunch Republican. I was a member of the College Republicans during my college days and I campaigned for George W. Bush in 2000 & 2004 and even voted for Bob McDonnell as governor of Virginia in 2009.
I think much of the racism and prejudice present in society today is a result of the obsessions of the conservative media, such as Fox news and CNN (my apologies for any ignorant media I left out). Over time, I became increasingly aware of the lies told by the Republican party by and large. At first I tried to deny it and became increasingly conservative. Eventually, I completely woke up to the bed of lies told by the GOP.
My watershed moment of realization came during the 2008 election cycle. Although I typically voted for Republicans, I usually supported one democrat in each election. I volunteered at a McCain campaign office in Hampton Roads when one of the head people noticed I had a bumper sticker of a Democratic candidate on my car. I was told to either take the bumper sticker off my car or park further away from the building. I was taken aback by his comment. Though many of my views are conservative, I was thinking to myself “Is this guy a Republican or a Nazi?” This is the United States of America and a person should never be shamed for supporting a candidate from an opposing party.
It gets even worse. I initially brushed aside the statement and forgot about it for awhile. However, a few weeks later I was going to go knocking on doors for McCain and several people at the campaign office were happy, as I could present issues from multiple viewpoints. The head fellow told me I was not welcome to go on the door knocking trek. He claimed that he had reasonably asked me to remove the democratic bumper sticker from my car and that I’d refused to start parking farther away. I responded that I’m not required to vote straight ticket Republican. We got into an arguement and I was subsequently BANNED from volunteering at that Republican headquarters. Talk about intolerance!
The First thing I did was head right over to the campaign of the Democrat at issue. I campaigned for President Obama in 2012 and got to see him in person in Hampton Roads. When I re-piece the puzzle back together, it almost makes me wonder if many Republicans don’t fall under the ASD spectrum. It is really ironic how unaccepting many Republicans are to those with different viewpoints.
It’s best that white men stay away from black women. All you have to do is surf You Tube and you can find many videos of black gangs beating up white boys that date black girls. If you want to date out of your own race, make it Asian and you’ll be happy you did.
So much of it is the general way American Black Women comport themselves that turns me off. Cussing under their breath in public places, giving you the stink eye, getting loud and out of control, etc. Plus American Black Women can be hulk types, not attractive to me. On the other hand I met a beautiful Black lady from the UK, we spent a few nights together and she was absolutely lovely, warm, smart, and had a subtle humor. The American Black women looking for dudes with swagger is damn funny. I’ve seen White guys like that with Black women, basically they are out Blacking the Black guys in attitude, dress, and aggressiveness. this is a great way to get douchey guys bordering on Wiggers, so what’s the point. Yet ABW complain about they can’t find a man, well maybe it’s time for them to up their game, and not be looking for a white “brother”. Meanwhile some of my Black guy friends are always looking for women other than Black because of their attitude. It’s too bad. I am sure a lot of these women are fine people, however they project something other than that.
Maybe if black American women were treated better then they would act better. When in history have American men treated black American women the way they treat white or Asian women ?
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I have had a black woman ask me why I date black women. This is from my heart and hope the ladies see inside of my heart and not just the outside looks. I adore a woman for her beauty,the softness in her eyes that smile and the beauty a woman has to share with a man in life. I love how a woman smells as to the freshness,the smile on her face,the tenderness in a woman’s heart and touch. I love how a woman can go out of her way to treat me as a wonderful thoughtful man in life. I adore how a woman’s voice is so beautiful,tender amazing,and how her personality shines and is full of love passion,compassion,and how she can be so heart melting. I adore how a woman’s consideration,is a plus,and how a woman touches my whole being. I love the inner most love a black woman can share with a man in life. I am a easy man to be with talk to and love if the woman will open up and trust me with her thoughts. I just wish the ladies would stop and give a good man a chance and see all the sunshine in my heart and the love I would adore to share between 2 people from Mark
The only date-a-ble black women are the more educated sophisticated middle/upper class ones. Black ghetto chicks you don’t want to go near.
As opposed to white ghetto chicks?
Very interesting article! I’m dating a white guy and he’s pretty shy, but I find it refreshing that he’s so honest and romantic. He’s introduced me to his family and I’m really looking forward to being with him for a long time!
I was 33 the first time I asked a black woman out. I walked into the office of a busy, high-profile company I was doing some freelance work when I saw a vision: the receptionist-assistant was fending off the attention of the Fedex guy and the water cooler guy with the most magical smile I’d ever seen in my life. She had a cafe’ au lait complexion, some freckles, was very tastefully dressed and just had an aura of innocent beauty the likes of which I’d never seen. In a soft-spoken polite way I told her that I was there to see her boss, complimented her on her sweater in a non-flirtatious way, “where’d you get it?”, etc. and introduced myself, extending my hand. At home later I asked her boss (a woman, white) to tell me anything she could about Miss X. She said: “I know. (i.e. she’s.LOVELY), but I don’t know anything about her except that she’s reading Jane Austen.” That was enough. The next day I called her up asked if she remembered me (she did), asked her out to lunch, told her a Jane Austen joke, and I heard the sweetest girlish laugh I’ve ever heard of my life and a “yes”. I was on Cloud 10..It really was love at first sight and we’ve been quite happily married for years.
this is why we can’t have nice things
date in your own damn race everybody
It occurs to me that every picture here is of very good looking people, kinda like MODLES. I smell bullshit. Black girls don’t date white men unless they are 1, a 3rd degree black belt, 2, are in the porn industry or 3, are rich. Blacks are a bunch of racist fucks and I’d rather murder them than have to deal with any of them.
Black femidogs….take ur slutwhore white boy and keep her black filthy ass away from me.
As an African-American female, I must say that I enjoyed reading this post. There were a few things that I didn’t truly agree with (the part about a man’s “swagger” in particular), but that’s to be expected.
Overall, this post and it’s comments has helped to renew my hope that I can find a white man (gosh it sounds wrong to say it like that). I dated an Italian-American my senior year of high school (2010). He was everything that I had ever wanted in a guy. But his parents were the wedge that drove us apart. So while this post touches very important topics on how to approach a woman of color, I just want to point out that white men (and sometimes the woman of color) need to know that they can be met with resistance from their own family. And at that point it’s up to you to decide if you’re going to take the hard route and stick it through with the hopes of convincing your family, or take the easy route and break it off.
With everything happening in the world right now (Donald Trump especially) the thought of being in an interracial relationship scares a lot of people who are worried about how society will perceive them. Don’t let bigotry and hate get in the way of what could possibly be the best love you’ve ever known.
Did you really say swagger? Swagger?? Isn’t it just confidence ? Why is it when black women like confident men just like everyone enjoys confidence in a partner , it’s called swagger??
Not to bring up a sore subject, but what about vagina size? Since black men tend to have far bigger penises than other races, it should hold that black women’s vaginas can take it ball’s deep all day long, so a lot of non-black men are intimidated by that. Where I’m at, it’s generally the well-hung non-black males who go after black women. This is another factor.
I remember I was at the Van Halen re-union concert (the one where David Lee Roth came back but they got rid of Michael Anthony) in 2008 in Atlanta at Philips Arena.
After the show, I was walking around to the other side of the arena to catch up with my friends who had different seats than I did and I noticed this black girl with dark brown hair, low lights, that fell just below her shoulders.
She was in a white dress that fell to her mid-thigh, had on brown cowboy boots and had a body like you would not believe.
Beyond that, her face was absolutely gorgeous. I remember thinking that she had a face that sat somewhere between Tyra Banks, Halle Berry and late 80’s Vanessa Williams. It’s hard to describe but I wondered if she was perhaps someone famous in the area to see the band because not only was she fantastically attractive but she seemed far more put together than anyone else at the show.
Little did I know what lay in store for me…
Up walks this fellow, he’s probably 5’11” or so, maybe 150 lbs, long hair of his own. He’s pale, got glasses, looks like Harris from Freaks and Geeks. She leans in, kisses him on the cheek and they proceed to hold hands after greeting each other as they walk out of the stadium and into the night.
I was so flabbergasted by it that I told my friends once I caught up them, pointed her and him out to the guys and all they could do was stare with their mouths open. None of us could believe what we were seeing.
It can happen guys. And sometimes, it happens in the most unexpected of ways.
This article is riddled with stereotypes of black women. Here are two of my favorite:
“The reality is this: thugs aren’t actually cool. Any notion contrary to that is a myth. Only a select minority of non-black women are really into thugs.”
I wonder what makes the author think that black women want thugs?
“Develop a little swagger. Make sure your game is on point (that is what this website is for, isn’t it?) and work to ensure that your confidence shows. Get very comfortable approaching with that confidence. Black men are famous for fearless, persistent approaching — though they claim to often be annoyed by this, the fact is that said reality has conditioned many black American women to expect a man to be confident enough to step to them. There is very little tolerance in the black community for shy guys, far less than you will find in other groups.”
Yea you don’t need ‘swagger’ you just need to be masculine and confident and not prone to stereotyping black women.
I have found values and communication to be more important than race in a relationship. Race shouldn’t have anything to do with it. Sometimes it does with some people however. You can be around people of all races that share your values and find that you all get along just fine if you take the time to to know them.
All for the wrong reasons.This would make my ancestors sick,all this bed wenching going.Black women are being fetishes for white men for years since slavery,and they have no idea of the negative impact of this B.S>