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Is Technology Our Friend Or Foe?

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Browsing the archives of the ROK, I was struck on the generally negative view of men regarding modern technology. Of course, there are some exceptions to that rule but the majority is ranging from indifferent (thinking that technology will impede their game and social life) to downright phobic (thinking “Snowden” and the like).

I will try to shed some light on the good, the bad, the ugly and the powerful when it comes to the dragon of our age.

The Bad

Young woman wielding her wand of Narcissus

When it comes to the world of technology, a disturbingly high number of people regard social media as the greatest or (at the very least) among the most important inventions and technological achievements of our age. While this is highly debatable, what it does do is give a platform to girls for self-validation, online sluttery, and spreading of irrational and toxic ideology posed as “rights”, “freedoms” and the like. Women’s egos inflated rapidly under the anonymous praise of countless faceless males, while making some temporary “friendships” with other women. Online prostitution abounds, further encouraging young women to pursue this path to depression and isolation, thinking that they will remain anonymous and/or without any repercussions or consequences.

Of course, many young men also fell under this spell, forgoing the very basics of human interaction in favor of praising a bunch of women in the vain hopes that their non-felt responses to their affection will actually lead somewhere. Also, with the ever-exploding use and abuse of mobile devices, both men and women can delude themselves with claims of social and mental health while carrying their connection and live stream of digital cocaine in their pockets.

The Ugly

Of course, the bad can turn to ugly as well, given enough time to fester. Several studies (Google Scholar and some others – links taken on March 2017) have shown a clear link between excessive use of social networking and behavioral problems, while older studies have shown the same regarding internet usage in general. Most addicts of social networks actually deny even that (denial is a typical addict behaviour).

“The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived”

And, of course, who can leave scammers out of this? Most scammers pose as girls (with the bait material being both plentiful and multifaceted enough to be extremely difficult to detect as such) as this is the easiest market to get into; most young men barely use any hint of rational thought when white-knighting, let alone the effort and skills needed to detect a scam. Women can be (and are ) approached by a different vector, usually modeling or talent scouts.

Another facet of the ugly side of technology is espionage and lack of information security. After Snowden’s and Wikileaks’ revelations of massive spying and information intercept, one can be afraid of their phone, their PC, and their smartwatch. We often see stories of hacked individuals having personal information exposed or destroyed. The widespread use of technology has created the dilemma of security versus privacy.

Technology seems like a bad deal after all those, doesn’t it? Well, if you look closely, you can find the common missing element of those cases? I’ll tell you at the end, after I list the things that technology can achieve if this element is present.

The Good

The power of technology can be harnessed for your benefit

And now the positive part of technology, namely information exchange and research. This very site demonstrates that power, showing that men can come together and share knowledge due to this new age on communication. Also, research on various topics can be achieved in seconds with the right queries, when it used to take days, even weeks of shuffling through books and old newspapers and magazines.

Friendships can be made across the world, between like-minded fellows and people of common interests, something inconceivable a few years ago. There are quite a lot of people actually making an honest living off this brave new world, something that is even depicted in articles at Return Of Kings (like some here courtesy of Mr. Kyle Trouble). We also can’t forget the increased-size dating market, should you decide to try it.

The Powerful

The true potential of technology is yet to be harnessed

The above uses show the power of technology, but its true potential is yet not reached. So, it came to me as a surprise when I found this article. While many men would argue that surveillance devices is kind of pushing it, it can only show the tip of the iceberg that is technology’s potential. If they can do it, so can you. Another thing is anonymity software, and simple low-tech solutions like covering the camera on your laptop. Open source software can make you sure of what you run on your PC, free of charge. The list could be a whole site all in itself, and well beyond the scope of this article, but you can do your research and find out for yourself.

The Element

So what is the element missing from the bad and the Ugly, and present in the Good and the Powerful sides of technology? The answer is hidden in its obviousness: knowledge. Knowledge of technology can turn it to your greatest ally, lack of knowledge can turn it to your worst nightmare.

“But I don’t wanna be a nerd!” – Some intellectually lazy slob

Tough.

Most men wouldn’t drive a car without learning even the most basic of mechanics, yet most people (and women tend to have somewhat less of the pie cut when it comes to PCs ) use something that can spy them, impersonate and incriminate them, without the faintest idea of even the basic mechanics behind that. It is also ironic that the most vulnerable people are the ones that know nothing, yet expose everything (from personal info to financial statements and credit card numbers).

Knowledge of technology is seldom hidden, as the tech community is in its very origin a researcher’s society, and is typically open of its gained knowledge – as long as you put in effort and don’t expect to be spoon-fed.

Know your tools, or stay away from them; never try to use something you don’t know what it does and how to use it.

That’s some great advice my grandfather gave me after I cut myself with a woodworking scalpel. So, to any aspiring tech-savvy man, let me tell you this: don’t be “tech-savvy”. Know your shit. Know it really well. You can check if a girl is a slut within 5 minutes. You can check if your girlfriend tries to expand her inner world with the help of another “friend.” You can make money without joining the cubicle matrix farm, and use your free time to your own benefit.

But you can get spied upon, cheated and scammed, or even worse, turned into a mindless white-knight for some airheaded bimbo. The choice is in your hands. The narrow path is harder, but the payoff is worth investing in.
Read More: 5 Ways Our Modern World Is A Pale Simulation Of The Past

122 thoughts on “Is Technology Our Friend Or Foe?”

  3. Technology is great…. BUT we must focus on technologies that really matter. Twitter? Facebook? Instagram? Do they matter? In a sense, yes, but in the larger picture they really don’t.
    Cure for cancer? Cure for AIDS? A simple way to fix back pain? Fixing a cavity without using medieval fillings but instead regrowing lost tissue? Regrowing heart cells after a heart attack? Some kind of “drain-o” for the bloodstream to quickly dissolve any blood clots? Accurately and objectively diagnosing medical issues without relying on the “try this and see if it works” method? A surefire way to tell if your cold is caused by a bacteria or virus and thus whether antibiotics are needed? Fixing hearing loss without lame hearing aids? Regrowing eye cells to fight macular degeneration? A high-speed rail like they have in Japan? Supersonic commercial flight that isn’t noisy? A space elevator? All the tech we saw in games like Metal Gear Solid back in 1998 that should have happened by now? THESE are the kinds of technologies we need to focus on.

      1. Haha that’s exactly my point. IT has skyrocketed, everything else has stagnated. I remember reading articles about about how stem cells and other biotechnologies would “revolutionize” and “cure” diseases and other afflictions in the early 2000s with rhetoric like “cure for XYZ in the next five to ten years.” Guess what? It’s been almost twenty years and we’re still living like we used to.

        1. those tech companies (Facebook, Google, Netflix, Snapchat) have effected a worldwide brain drain

        2. Having said that the technologies you mention are *hard*…. harder than initially believed (like AI). There is plenty going on though, and results *will* come, just not as fast as we first hoped.

        3. The truly disturbing realization is that the power structure wants people to die off. They want a high turn over rate. You think they want people around who can remember the way things used to be? No. They want the older crowd to die off so they can brainwash the new crop of minds.

        4. With a high turnover rate, the elites can distort reality any way they want. Remember a time when we had a collective voice and a collective identity? Then they want you to die. They want a reality where no one can remember (or imagine) a world with a collective culture, language, identity.

        6. Also poison young ones with endless “vaccines”. …
          Autism skyrocketing is just a cohencidence

        7. I love the explanation people offer up: “Oh, autism isn’t increasing, we just have better methods of detection.”
          BS
          You don’t need a retard-o-meter to determine which kid is messed up. It’s obvious.

      2. I think scientist need to be sneaky about how they present their ideas: don’t say “here are the schematics for my new jetpack”, but instead say “I’ve invented a jetpack that helps queer and transgender people hook up in the sky.” Instant R & D funding

        1. Perhaps you’re right. As an example, take anti-aging research. It could be framed to help women retain their youth. But it would necessarily have to work on all humans (at least I hope so). Thus anti-aging research could be funded by the female voting bloc.

        2. That’s the idea. But its more likely to work the other way round agenda wise. They can now create artificial sperm, 3 parent embryos etc, and its always presented as for health related reasons, or to cure disease. In fairness it may be for those reasons primarily, but there are always those who would like to create new choices for people who are prepared to pay. The point is a technological advance can have more than one potential use, but will always need to be marketed in the way most likely to generate support

        3. Yeah true. For example many men suffer from hair loss, but the push is really for people who have lost hair due to cancer or something like that. So it may start out to help those people and then trickle to a more cosmetic application.

        4. women don’t want to live longer, they just want to look younger. they would be fine dying at 45 if they could look great up until their last breath

        5. Looks like you’ve had a bit too much to think.
          Dig a little deeper and ask why so many young men (in their early 20s) are balding? Think that’s normal???

      3. We need more apps for gays to have casual encounters. Like that radar thing in aliens

        beep beep beep 10 meters … 8 meters … 5 meters … the cocks are right on top of me!!!

      2. Roosh you, should make the “Manosphere Toaster” and sell them.
        What would the burnt impression in the bread be gents?
        I will lose sleep over this one.

        1. Plus a toaster is something I could use. I got a million tee shirts but no toaster. Wait, socks. I’m also out of good socks. All my socks and underwear are shot. If they had ROK socks I would have to buy some. Plus they would be like a moving advertizement. I bet it’s been a good 50 yrs since a western woman fixed the holes in a sock.

    3. Why cure cancer or AIDs, let the weak and unfit die.
      Breed a stronger race.

      1. You say that, but it could happen to you. Often I find that most people that use the “survival of the fittest” argument are precisely the ones that would die first should anything happen. I.e. they themselves are the weak ones. It seems to me that true strength is recognizing our vulnerabilities and limitations. It doesn’t matter how strong or in shape you are, shit happens to the best of us.

        1. At 61 I’ve lived my life. I haven’t died first, therefore I am one of the fittest.

        2. Sure that’s great for you, but I’m sure you’ve known people that suffered for no apparent reason, through no fault of their own. Should we just let them die? Besides, with technology, we won’t have to breed a better race. We’ll be able to create one with technology.

        3. We have no choice, survival rates for cancer are very low beyond 5 years. And they do a lot of treatments which are unnecessary. Might as well just not bother treating it. The NHS now discourages health screening as it leads to many false treatments.
          If you really have cancer, you are gonna die, all you can do is prolong your suffering by a year or two, probably while bankrupting your family, and being so miserable that all around you learn to hate and despise you.

        5. Survival of the fittest doesn’t mean that the ‘fittest’ (as in fitness) survives. It means that the ones who adapt the best (probably) will survive. You don’t have to be the fastest to outrun a bear, you just should not be the slowest.

        6. Not every cancer is the same. Lungcancer, that’s bad. Testicular cancer.. easily treatable when you’re on time. Same goes for dozens of other forms of cancer.

      2. I might be inclined to agree with you if the government wasn’t doing all it could to kill us off. Why do you think caner rates are soaring? It’s done deliberately.

      3. The way to build a stronger race would be to let the sick die off early in life, e.g., children with heart defects. By fixing them, we allow them to survive to adulthood, mate, and give rise to an even sicklier generation.
        Diseases in old age, however, have little to do with being fit. Could be from exposures to toxins etc.

        1. I had gall bladder problems at 54, they wanted to cut it out, I said no.
          Plenty of exercise later, from 90Kg to 76Kg, still got my gall bladder, and no more problems. Boy, they really wanted to cut it out.

    6. While a valid and solid argument, when I talk of technology here I focus on the tech most people are familiar, and that is VERY DEPRESSINGLY the internet. I can bet a steak and two pints of fine black ale that the majority of people are totally indifferent on things that affect their lives but require effort to understand.
      There is a reason why people are drawn to that side of technology: it is TOO user-friendly, so the user isn’t as skilled as they should be. Other fields that do not have this trait are not as trendy; computer science actually has a special branch for user interface development. Other STEM fields like physics, metallurgy or biosciences that don’t have the user-friendly thing are not on that track.
      Truth is, whether we focus on such technologies (we do) or not isn’t of interest to the general population, and isn’t promoted as much for the simple fact that it’s not profitable. A new app on iPhone or a new game on Facebook can make the interested parties more promotion money than, say, a new alloy or a new polymer. Technology has become a commodity, as with most things.
      Thing is, technology can be used in many ways; from smartphones and i-somethings to even the speakers in your car. Accurate laser telemetry can be used to measure the distance to the moon, or to measure the vibrations on your windows, effectively spying on your emitted sounds. A bioscience can be used for treating or killing, maiming and the such (tranny meds).
      So, what I mean to point out is this: know what you use, and use what you know. There are many addicts on games, but most of the people making those games are not. When you truly know something, it tends to lose its magical allure, and it becomes either boring or fascinating, but most certainly not addicting.

  5. Wasn’t it Arthur C. Clarke who said that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic ….in that it will possess your soul and deliver it to satan.

    1. Yes he did. while I never read the book, Ive watched the miniseries(very disturbing)

      1. Might check it out. Looks like one of those based on a true story TV mini-series though

      4. If you understand symbolism and know something of British elite occultism and Fabian socialism then you will inderstand that the entire plot is a description of elite intentions for society. At least, that is how I took it. The demonic form of the benign “overlords” is a cutesy thing that luciferians like to do in their stories. The underlying concept of Fabian socialism was to establish total economic and social control using gentler means over a longer period of time, as opposed to the more aggressive global and nationalistic socialist societies that cropped up during ww2.

      1. no, that’s what he said. There’s probably a 14 year old boy who was with him at the time who can verify it

        1. OK I laughed at that but..he may have been a bender but he wasn’t a pedo. By all accounts he was a teetotaler all round gentleman.

        2. Sure, so was “uncle Jimmy”
          Get off it. The man was a confirmed pedo from multiple sources, at best he only seduced young boys and had paid for broken ones in Asia. Odds are he belonged to a pedo ring, and was clearly highly protected.

        7. I think he at least had ‘predilections’ or preferences that verged on the pederastic. That’s based on an interview he once gave indicating that he felt all post-puberty sex was legitimate. It’s seems quite likely though that he didn’t actually act accordingly. At the very least he was never convicted of anything, and it seems most of the fuss related to the comments he’d made

        8. Yeah, fair enough. I suppose it’s a pre-requisite for a British peerage anyway!

        9. Dunno, yes with Savile and all but Clarke? By all accounts he wasn’t. No idea though, you could be right.

        10. Lol, and what would a knight of the realm be without a page boy to polish his sword?

        13. Ha, I remember that episode. Handsome young lad was Bob, but probably not the type most peers of the realm would take a shine too

        14. Yes, the contents of Bob’s codpiece were probably not to the gentrified’s liking..

  6. Man’s brains will make his hands idle, as my Granda used to say. Like everything else use common sense, utilize tech if it more efficiently helps you achieve your objective, discard it if it just wastes your time. Be like a dog. If you can’t eat it or hump it, pee on it and walk away.

    1. “utilize tech if it more efficiently helps you achieve your objective, discard it if it just wastes your time”
      “Be like a dog. If you can’t eat it or hump it, pee on it and walk away.”
      i like this word of wisdom.

  7. You could write volumes and volumes on this question and in the end the answer would still be mu.

    1. Indeed, sir. Yet my deduction is fairly simple: the more you know than your adversary (whoever he may be) the better off you’ll be.

  9. I remember that quote from “Contact”
    Technology rah rah rah..
    “Yeah, but did it make us any happier?”

  10. Great article. This a topic that should be obvious but in this time of obfuscation and fake news, it’s not. People has to learn to assume responsibility for their choices and actions.

  12. I think technology is a wonderful thing for this life. We are living longer, healthier, more experiential lives. If you are reading this comment congratulations you survived infancy which historically was a hard thing to do.
    Now on the other hand ironically technology is making us dumber, we are much less intellectually inclined. This may seem counterintuitive , but when you think about it makes total sense. Interestingly when the internet first took off everyone believed that human intelligence would take off with it because now we have the entire sum of human learning at our fingertips. However 99% of people use this tool to look at pictures of cats and asses. This is because human nature has not evolved with our technology. We still have the internal dispositions for degeneracy that we always have had. Except now we have he ability to entertain and distract ourselves beyond measure and all the years of deep contemplation and discipline required to create advancement in material and spiritual things is now lacking.( I imagine there may be curvature of diminishing results forthcoming with technology where we will be getting less and less progress because we cannot form our minds to solve the great problems of our generation.) I think it is readily apparent to most people that the intellectual, cultural, spiritual quality of most everyone in our society is much diminished.
    In summation because of technology we live longer healthier lives, but the human experience lived in those lives is much less than that of our ancestors.

    1. Actually we aren’t,
      Life expectancy has been nearly the same for over 2,000 years.
      Published figures are skewed by child mortality in the past, which strangely don’t include abortion figures of the present.
      http://www.livescience.com/10569-human-lifespans-constant-2-000-years.html
      I agree,
      It is easier to survive infancy now, but much harder to make it to birth because your mother might decide to abort you. I’m guessing the numbers would even out …… if anyone allowed us to know them.
      http://www.numberofabortions.com/
      This site suggests around 40M-50M abortions a year at the moment.

      2. No reliable pre-legalization abortion statistics exist, just guesstimates based on hospital admissions and criminal prosecutions. Film star Fatty Arbuckle was prosecuted for the death of a 16 year old woman who was alleged to have had five (illegal) abortions. People are typically reticent about their criminal acts so whether there were more abortions before or after legalization is debatable, but not provable.

        1. Technology started in 1850.
          Abortion is murder, legal or not.
          PS. Fatty was completely exonerated in court. Woman was a 25 year old prostitute suffering from all sorts of disease.

        2. Fatty was exonerated in court, but his career in film was torched. The woman apparently died of natural causes and he played no role in her demise. Given the continuing scourge of yellow journalism, 16 years old with five abortions may have been an eyeball gluing lie. However, then crimes including fornication, LBQT’s, and abortion existed even when penalties for them were severe. Reinstating fornication laws might reduce abortion rates if the penalties were severe and law enforcement cast a wide “no exceptions” net, but it’s damnably hard to reclassify anything as a crime, especially after the Supremes ruled that what consenting adults do in private isn’t a crime.

  13. Tech in the hands of fools is like handing sticks of dynamite to some teen kids you find skipping school and smoking beneath a bridge. “Here’s a bag of goodies kids. Use your imagination.”
    Also tech in the hands of women is a dangerous form of fire. We throw tech around at everyone so irresponsibly like everyone needs to wield a triple edged benevolent tool that can be turned into a weapon. Both a child and a woman need guidance growing, maturing and becoming both pillars and festoons to the pillars of the universal patriarchal architecture and order. Ergo women don’t need social media for attention whoring but men DO need a superior vehicle of communication to sieze upon the recent revival of our long lost patriarchal creed and to quarterback in the maneuvers necessary to finally bring the herds of wild shebeasts of our species to heel.
    TECH THAT WOMEN DO NEED – – a blender or hi tech sewing machine with all the fancy zig zag templates absolutely yes, but smartphones NO, not without careful and supervised use. Smartphones in the hands of women should be on a ‘WOMAN LOCK’ security setting with your own passcode. Once your young nubile nymph woman gets big eyes for the latest domestic gadget, make her earn it with striving to be better, by going over the top perhaps draining your balls. She can ace the hole and jig it on the spot like an archer and she knows it. Most people in fact can do more amazing things than their mind will allow. That’s why women must be taught a rewards system for the tech that’s placed in their hands.
    Social media has made such a wreckage of the minds of our youngest and most impressionable breeder women. Tech is way out of the bag. The horse is out of the stable. The ethic must be to first ask yourself “who needs to posess this tech” when you’re in the brainstorming phase of a new technology. Does the government deserve exclusive access to said technology much less flaky women or children? Corporate tech conglomerates sign the innovative geniuses they employ into bondage and slavery. They want your ideas but give the inventor no leverage over how his development is applied. Inventors get ‘idea raped’ by the companies.

    1. I truly believe the rise of social media will go down in history as one of the worst mistakes in human history.
      Not just for the effects on the human condition (contributing to hypergamy, narcissism) etc but for the unintended effects on science and discovery. What do the greatest minds of our generation all desire? To work at NASA and put a man on another world? No. To work at SETI and discover evidence of life elsewhere in the universe? Nope. To work on a cure for aging? Nein. They want to land a job at Facefuck, Snapchat, Uber, or Google as a coder.
      These giant social media / entertainment tech companies have basically hoovered up the best minds of a generation.

        1. 40-50 years ago, the best minds were brainstorming ways to terraform other worlds and envisioning methods of interstellar travel.
          Now?
          They’re coding a new Snapchat filter

        2. The best minds are today busy coming up with new dog filters for teen girls to take selfies.

        3. People who have the brains to work at NASA of CERN will do it. The lesser programmers will go to Facebook. I even think facebook is in the lower spectrum. There are hundreds of software company’s that are better for your resume than Facebook.

      2. I don’t believe any of the world ‘s greatest minds want to work for facebook et al. You are confusing drones with original thinkers.

    2. The Amish do in fact utilize technology: they’re just very judicious as to what technology they use (e.g., telephone but not social media) and who in their community gets to use it (e.g., the community leader / elder).

      1. That would be sooo great! To have your wom(e)n riding bicycles around the farm with armloads of cargo as you stand in your big hat like a cunductor. Everything works. Then you slip into your man cave flipping open your laptop and you enter the manosphere for a shot of brain food. Then you go back into the sun clenching your stiff dog and pick a nubile pig to grease after helping her pop her bike chain back on of course. I hear Amish girls pound some miles on those clunker bikes. Some can even ride some awesome wheelies. That indicates a bod capable of some NUU-BILE business right there when a young breeder chick can straddle a frame with wheels.

  14. I noticed that womans demands far exceed a womans actual value…is it only me that’s noticed this?..

    1. AWALT,
      They always want more, bankrupt you then move on to the next sucker seems the norm IF you let them. When my misses asks for more, I just point out a new 20 year old live in lover would cost me less than she does. It usually shuts her up, and I get great sex for the next week as she tries to prove her worth.
      It’s funny, but as they get older and their worth diminishes (less attractive, less fertile, less sex), they don’t expect less money from you.

  15. I’m the CEO of a tech company. Here’s my take:
    Technology is *neither*, it is merely a tool. Is a stick our friend or foe? It’s our friend if we’re lame and it helps us to walk, it’s our foe if our enemy uses it to beat our brains out.
    End of story.
    The *only* relevant question is what we *do* with technology. In my observation most women use it to indulge the very worst aspects of their nature – attention whoring, gossiping/social violence, and lining up their next lowlife fuck.
    Me? My favourite project right now is applying big data and analytics techniques to clinical data to improve outcomes to cure disease and extend life. Can’t say any more about it as I’d identify my ‘real-world’ self pretty obviously. The point is cutting edge technology (in this case the same stuff that retailers use to identify when you are going to buy something *before you do*) can be used in life-affirming and life-enhancing ways that are, frankly, verging on science fiction.
    It’s a tool, guys… it’s up to us whether it is our friend or foe.

      1. Apologies, sir, if I came across in disagreement… You most certainly made this point and made it well! I thought your article first class!
        I simply wished to concur, and as a Man relatively well placed to judge the efficacy of your argument…
        Thanks again for a great article…

    2. You should read the book “The Technological Society”. It proves that the technique (or technology) is not a tool (as most people think) but rather a system that is actually independent of the human will and action. It is going in one direction that is based mainly on growth and the totality of numbers and ratios (interests, costs, effectiveness, productivity etc). It does not care about the well being of humans or the preservation of nature.
      On the contrary, as the system grows, humans are becoming more and more a liability because they cannot keep up and adjust quickly to the new technological realities. There is no space for moral questions or skepticism concerning the appliance of the new advancements. Every new technological advancement is firstly introduced as optional but eventually becomes a necessity because it is more efficient from the last one. If the new “something” is better in terms of numbers (cheaper, more productive, more efficient, more marketable etc) it will eventually be part of our lives.
      Off course, you do not have to read this book (or others with similar subjects) to conclude this by yourself. This is easily observable in everyday life. In my opinion, there is no “good” or “bad” technology. Technology is just not compatible with nature or human beings and the more we become dependent to it, the more we lose the essence of what makes us human beings

      1. Well it’s an interesting notion, although unlikely to reverse my convictions regarding the supremacy of the human will. ‘Technology’ is not conscious, and while we can debate whether it will one day achieve ‘consciousness’ (or a level of interdependent algorithms sufficiently indistinguishable from human ‘consciousness’ that they would pass the ‘Turing test’) I hope we can agree today’s level of technology has not reached this level.
        I do not subscribe to the notions of any of the ‘-ologies’ that impersonal, ‘external’, forces independent of the Human will shape us, and certainly not this notion of ‘independent technology’. It is an illusion. The human will, as ever, is the root of all of it. In short, if I don’t wish to use technology, and convince enough others not to, we won’t. End of Story.
        I’m not a victim in my own story… and certainly not to a bunch of machines and ones and zeros… Those machines, at the end of the day, always serve some Man and his Will… Same as everything else.

        1. ‘Technology’ of our times has not created a machine, a robot or a software A.I with a consciousness of a human being or an animal for sure, maybe not yet. But the argument here is not if the products of technology are conscious or not… The argument is that ‘technology’ as a whole is merely a unrelated sum of tools that are used by humans with total control by them. In my opinion, that is completely false because the products of Technology are not just tools, they have become an inter dependable system of systems which it has it’s own rules in order to operate and advance. These rules are made by humans, but they are driven by necessity not necessarily conscious choice, which is the tricky part
          I think this is a little difficult to understand so i will give you a simple example:
          If you look at a car separately, you could state that this is technological product that makes transportation easy and fast, in other words a tool which is absolutely true. However, in order for a car to function in a controlled and safe way, there is a need for a traffic light system, a paved road system, a sign system, a system of a codes (like laws etc) which everybody needs to follow, a system of general behaviours for a safe driving etc
          These systems are not optional. if we want cars to transport us safely in cities and towns etc, we must place them in some way or form. But in order for example to create the system of roads, we have to maybe take down trees or forests in the process. So, the moral question is the following:
          if we (the hypothetical people of a town or a village) do not want a road to be created near our town that will potentially destroy a nearby forest etc, do we actually have a choice? this answer is off course no and we saw that happen everywhere around the world the last 60 years. But not because we did not had the choice to say no in the first place, but because the effectiveness and the necessities of quick transportation won against morality and ethics and unfortunately they won every time.
          I can give you countless examples to prove my point but i think you get the picture

        2. Yeah, I think I’m getting what you are saying….
          It’s emergent behaviour from simple systems, right? In which case I can concur with a lot of what you’re saying… I think I’ll add your book recommendation to my ‘To Read’ list after all!

        3. Why take a car as an example, why not my mountain bike? In which case your example falls apart.
          I don’t need roads, traffic lights and a trail through the forest is fine!

        4. I am not a technophobe or something but there are certainly many issues about the way technology shapes society that we tend to dismiss. Years ago, I had the exact opinion as you about technology and progress but i started to change my view after reading some really interesting books. You should also check the book “The myth of the Machine” by Lewis Mumford. It is a great read about the same topic.

        5. If you take the bike as an example, you can can find simpler subsystems that operate but there are not near as complicated and restrictive as in the case of a car. This has to do with the difference of complexity between the two.

        6. Thanks for the recommendation (well, both really) – I will check them out.
          Great to see another Classicist here too 🙂

        7. Yes, i have a passion with everything that relates to Classical Greece, Roman Empire and history in general.
          ROK has a really interesting community. Many things to learn by some guys here.
          Have a nice day Marcus!

        8. Yeah, same here…. Tech is my day job, but the only time I use a computer outside of work is posting to RoK! I have the same passion for the Classical world, and prefer spending time thinking about that than technology any day of the week!
          You have a great day too!
          PS I find it fascinating the disconnect between the outside view of the RoK community (Rapists!) and the reality of an online community of some very bright, philosophically inclined Men with extremely interesting views…

  16. We’ve created a generation of people with impressive technical skills but no common sense.
    Instead of building a bullet train like what they’ve had in Europe and Japan for 40 years, we’ll keep letting Elon Musk jerk our dick with his fantasy of a1000 mph hyperloop pneumatic tube from futurama. Ain’t gonna happen! And yet that fuck has otherwise smart kids at every university submitting plans for his hyperloop.

    1. I don’t quite agree on the “technical skills” thing. Most girls know how to log in to Facebook, sure, but can they tell a SATA disk from an SSD? Can most boys distinguish a hardware from a software failure? Can any of them actually convert a number to binary and/or hexadecimal?
      True technical skills AND common sense come together, as they both reside in the STEM fields. Logic and science walk together. Today’s kids tend to forgo said fields in favour of gender studies or whatever.

  18. It very well could be Satan. Once tech tries to harness energy after death if it exists it will be time to think twice.

  19. In the hands of matriarchy and it’s betas, technology will backfire and prove to be a foe.
    One has to wait for alpha patriarchs to do the hard work, that will eventually turn it into a friend.

  20. Tech hurts more than helps.
    The power elite always get it first
    and coopt it.
    Tech makes tyranny possible and impossible to escape inthe long run.

  21. 50 years ago, the future was supposed to bring us flying cars, a cure for cancer and colonies on Mars. I was inspired by the moon landing to get into technology and do these things. Instead the future brought us Twitter, Theranos and Facebook.
    It is partly a failure of capitalism. Investors only go after low hanging fruit that pays off quickly. Consumers only go after instant gratification. Socialist societies spend all the government money on welfare for single moms and their kids, refugees, drug addicts, government unions and big business cronies. Not much left over for moonshots.
    What will be the game changer will be re-engineering humans. This means redesigning our DNA, redesigning what gives us pain and pleasure.

  23. Carl Schmitt said in one of his works(I forgot which): that technology is a tool that can and will be used by all….
    Treat it as such. Think with your imagination how patriarchal and medieval societies would have implemented internet for example and you would have a completely different conception of technology than your current one.

  24. It is and will always be a double edge sword in life, be careful what you wish for will forever ring true.

  26. Here is a quote from the one of the comp sci articles you linked:
    ” A society that believes technological understanding is primarily for males automatically excludes a large segment of the population from contributing more effectively to society’s advancement, and a valuable resource for the economy is lost”
    ^I think that is a bunch of bullshit. I don’t think getting more women involved in computers is going to “advance” our society in any meaningful way. I would say the reverse is true as well with things like child care, nursing, and elementary school teaching. Diversity in any form does nothing.

    1. My wife is a technophobe. And she has an engineering degree. But she’s very averse to using the computer for anything but e-mail and I have to constantly provide ‘tech support’ for her and my daughter’s computers.
      IF I were to be hitting various on-line sites, my wife would NEVER find them without calling in an expert.

  27. If I were going ask the RoK community for a book or primer on everything technology or technology that is relevant to us (cybersecurity amongst other things) what would you recommend?
    I am asking for myself.

  28. I think it really pays to go on a fast from technology on occasion. Leave your cell phone at home, go camping or on a vacation. Use a map instead of GPS. When you force yourself to think for yourself, you gain more of a sense of independence from the system.

  30. Youtube:
    K-rino — flawed technology
    ….
    “Everything meant for good is being used for evil”.

  31. Technology is good for men (the few who can control their own emotions).
    It’s not good if you put it in women’s hands.
    Technology just amplifies your already existing behavior in your brain.
    If you are impatient asshole, it will easily show by your diving habits. Can a man who want to walk 100 mph do that even if his brain wants to? No because that is physically impossible but a car will allow a man to go so fast.
    Women are fickle. iPhones and Tinder just allows her to show her true women behavior.
    So technology just easily shows what people from their core. It’s not good nor bad. It just amplifies human’s already existing mindset and behavior.

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