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How To Deal With Intense Male Competition In The Sexual Marketplace

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You will always face competition in the sexual marketplace—that is inevitable. What is important is that you improve yourself to the best of your ability to raise your inherent value while employing game principles to do the best for yourself that you can within that market.

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Make no mistake about it, the sexual marketplace is extremely competitive. Hot young women, particularly those aged between 18 and 23 or so are prized beyond belief in Western societies. If you are a thin, attractive girl in her early-twenties with an Instagram account then you can make a fortune just by putting out daily pictures of yourself in swimwear.

Offers of money, travel, handbags, clothes and other luxury goods come flooding in. Trips to Dubai and other glamourous international destinations are thrown at these girls like confetti. London in particular is filled with sexy young things who don’t work but instead spend all of their time trailing around Selfridges, Harrods and Harvey Nichols buying the latest designer clothes with money given to them by their ‘sponsors’.

In game terms we might decry such male tactics as mere ‘beta provisioning’. After all, if you have to shower a girl with gifts to get her into bed then that’s not ‘proper’ game right? And in any case, she’s not really into you, she’s only after you for your money anyway.

Well, yes and no. While I would never advocate that men lavish money on women whom they haven’t slept with yet (or any women come to that), nevertheless it is important to realise the the guys who do this kind of thing are not all simpering chodes. Quite the opposite. In London (as in other international cities) the guys who park their £350,000 Lamborghini Murcielagos outside Harrods are far closer to the Dan Bilzerian model of international playboys than not. Many of these men are not only very wealthy, they’re also good-looking, jacked and not lacking in self-confidence.

Does all of this mean that you should find a way to join the billionaire’s jet set club yourself, or else give up all hope of meeting hot women? No, of course not. But it does mean that you should be aware of the competition. The old adage may say that there’s always someone worse off than you, but the converse is also true: there’s always someone better off than you, too.

There’s Always Competition For Her

This is why guys who do day game ‘because there’s less competition’ are way off beam. There is competition, it’s just you can’t see it. In the club your competitors are instantly discernible. They are physically present after all, trying to AMOG their way into your sets, disrupt things or steal your girl by some other means.

But don’t imagine that 8 you just stopped outside Topshop is any less sought after. Just because you can’t see them, don’t imagine for one moment that there aren’t other men waiting in the wings, on Instagram or Tinder or Snapchat or in the club on Friday night who are also aiming to bang her (or are banging her already).

As I said at the start, you will always face competition in the marketplace: markets, after all, are predicated on competition. So what should you do in order to give yourself the best possible chance? Three things. Improve yourself to the best of your ability, learn game and have realistic expectations.

Give Yourself A Chance

Enough has been written about self-improvement here and on many other websites, so you don’t need me reminding you about the importance of lifting once again. But for god’s sake be the best version of yourself you can possibly be. You’d think this didn’t need saying anymore but it does, since guys contact me all the time asking for solutions to their ‘game’ problems when they’ve got shitty haircuts and clothes, bad posture and skinny-fat bodies.

The truth is that you’re never going to be as hot as that Calvin Klein model or the dude on the cover of Men’s Health, but you need to make a start. Put yourself in the right ballpark. At least be a contender.

The next thing you need to do is to learn game. By that I mean both game principles (approaching, vibing, cocky funny, leading, being dominant, escalation and closing). But you also need to internalise important game attitudes that have come to the fore in the community in the last decade or so, in particular abundance mentality and persistence.

Which leads me on to my final point about realistic expectations. Here’s the reality: game isn’t, and never was a magic trick. No one is promising that you’ll pull a supermodel from the arms of a Russian oligarch just by learning a few lines off the internet (although such things can and do happen). Game simply provides you with hacks that cut to the heart of female attraction obviating (to some extent) the need for riches or a six-pack of a Maserati.

If you are persistent with your game, approach a lot of women, are philosophical about rejection and hold onto an awareness that there are billions of girls out there for you to choose from, then in time you will get results. But don’t fall into the trap of believing that the competition will just fall away, because that dude on the Rich Kids of London Instagram feed wants to get laid too, and he’s fishing from the same pool you are.

A more realistic and healthy way to approach game (and any competitive endeavor) is to compete only against yourself. Think of the girls you slept with last year. How hot were they? How does that compare to your performance this year? If your results have dipped for whatever reason then it’s time to tweak your game. But if they’re improved then that’s cause for celebration.

Yes, there is strong sexual competition out there and no, you are not immune to it just because you watched a few game videos on YouTube. That said, there is an abundance of women out there for you to approach, and when you realise it is only really your prior performance that you are up against then that makes the whole project suddenly seem a lot more manageable.

For a compilation of all Troy’s best game writing, advice and techniques from the last four years buy his new book How To Get Hot Girls Into Bed 

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365 thoughts on “How To Deal With Intense Male Competition In The Sexual Marketplace”

  1. “…you can make a fortune just by putting out daily pictures of yourself in swimwear.” – Does that really happen? It sounds fishy (pun perhaps intended). How much money do they pull in a year?

    1. A site where it is regularly discussed how morally repugnant, culturally destructive and humanly awful it is for women to Instagram whore themselves out is not a place to ask for advice on how to be an Instagram whore.

      1. Not asking for advice. I’m far too old to be a successful whore. I’m just wondering if this is really a thing and if so, how much do they really make?

        1. “- Does that really happen?”
          You dare question us? Pay attention and learn!

        2. I’ll be sure to tune in tomorrow for more learning. Now, however, it’s time to start dinner.

      3. But it’s a site where people give advice on how to game them? I mean the pics that always accompany these articles, they don’t look like sweet, humble girls to me.

    2. How much does a stripper make in a gentlemen’s club even after paying fees to the house? That should give you some idea except now online, your Instawhore account is free.

      2. My cousin was a stripper. She made 300 to 500 a night just for lap dances and pole dancing. She worked four nights a week and paid for a four year degree in accounting. She’s an accountant now. It’s too funny.
        Instagram whores don’t make much probably just get some free stuff and lots of admirers with the hope that one day a modelling agency will discover them and they land on the cover of the Sports Ilustrated swimsuit edition. A lot of these girls are very very pretty but I bet many of them are deluded. At least real models actually charge for half naked photo shoots.

    3. It can’t be much. Moldy locks even did full porn, and she’s not living any high life (outside of smoking pot). I’d say at most pocket spending money, maybe… With so much free porn on the internet who would really want to pay for it?
      Now, YouTube might be a possibility. If you a girl can do something normal, half naked and push the censors on there but not go over the line, then I hear some of those YouTube channels with 50-150K can do that nearly full time. There’s no telling how much money dudes like Phillip Defranco and Laci Green are pulling in with seven figure subscribers.

      1. …dudes like Phillip Defranco and Laci Green…

        I knew it! That lousy bitch was a dude all along…

    4. Depends on how good they fuck and how much they whore themselves. Istagram doesn’t pay these bitches I guess. It only helps them find “sponsors” who pay them for sex , literally.

    5. Check out tagthesponsor.com. Couldn’t tell you how much they get, but they get free shit nonetheless.

  2. For God’s sake, don’t worry about the 8’s and 9’s in the big cities whoring it out to the dudes driving cars worth more than most people’s mortgages and 401Ks combined. If you are going to game nubile young women, do it in parts of the country where the young women have lower expectations and haven’t ruined themselves completely yet. No doubt, unicorns and “nice girls” do not really exist and AWALT for sure, but at least in the U.S., there are still young 7+’s who exist in the Midwest, for example, who can be gamed before they go to SJW-camp (i.e., college) and might be salvageable, speaking from experience.

    1. Yeah you need to fish in the right pool for you. In these urban centers , nobody gives a crap about your game or self-improvement. It’s all about your STATUS (money , connections etc).

        1. Good luck applying game as a lower middle class dude to those instagram “models”.

        2. Online there’s no chance. In person they aren’t immune to an engaging personality.

        3. Even online it’s gonna be really hard broads since they don’t have the basic intellect to respond to an engaging personslity. I’ve tried some supposedly cool Heartiste-approved lines and they are like “What do you mean ? ” or “Are you trying to mock me or smth. In these bitches’ mind there is only money , luxury cars , trips.

        4. I have noticed a decline in conversational skills with women that have been inundated with technology as a convo medium (so most young western girls). Just have to keep grinding through it if you wanna get laid.

        5. Or better yet as a counter point to the article…
          Don’t game at all. Either a girl is in before word one or she’s not. Past that it’s up to you.
          Game is only real real when it’s fundamentally self improvement, doing brace things, improving your personal presentation, etc. Past that you’re better off just picking up the vibe (we all know basically if a girls in or not past a certain age), and then going for them. Trying to turn a zero into a one never really works the way you want it to anyway.

        8. This seduction game is all bullshit. How it works from what I see :
          1.She finds you physically attractive.
          2. One of her friends knows you.
          A girl who was really into me was escalating physically on the second date , even though I was saying the most stupid beta stuff back in my purple pill days.
          Now game is indeed very important when the relationship phase begins. Especially dread game and knowing how to pass shit tests/beta baits.

        9. That’s right I think, game afterwards is important, it’s basically a few solid principles to help you stand your ground in the heat of the moment.

        10. Yeah getting a woman to rub two brain cells together to get her face off her smart phone for 2 seconds is a challenge nowadays.

        11. I can tell in 10 seconds if a woman has an interest in me or not. Saves a lot of time, money and frustration as well.

        12. 20 years ago game was just having the balls to ask tons of women out and not get fazed by rejection.

        13. In person, you have to be in the same social setting as they are. So if she’s VIP with bottle service, you have to be in the same playing field to play game. You can’t be the dude outside the VIP booth and expect to game her.

      2. urban centers have a very high male-to-female ratio- one girl is expected to do the work of a hundred

        1. Well I know for sure they ain’t doing their work. My apartement is messy af.

        2. what do you think this is? she’s a free prostitute, not some “free maid”.

        3. Maid work is my fetish. As a good free prostistute she has to fullfill my sexual fantasies by tidying my shit up.

        4. your taste must explain the skirt section of salvation army where I live.
          charitable desouls.

    2. I see the internet as a far greater female validation tool than college. And everyone has access to that. I do believe a religious background can positively offset that to some degree.

      1. Depends what type of religious upbringing. Beginning to see more of those non denominational churches and those that are under the protestant branch start churning out crazies. My ex goes to a non-denominational and she’s about as feminist as can be. Perhaps its just one example, but I’ve also read articles about how the church is becoming pretty cucked these days.
        Not that it matters to me. I was raised catholic, but I’m not huge into religion by any means. But feminism and religion is too messed up of a combo for me to want to entertain trying a relationship with someone who tries to combine the two.

        1. Obviously I’m not a religious person, or an advocate for any dogmatic outlook. However, I do believe many of the values they instill are a healthy counter to feminism. Clearly that gets nullified if the institution adopts the tenets of feminism.

        2. The non-denoms come up with some nonsense (see: Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, et al.), then they become popular among women in protestant churches, then these women subvert their churches.
          Similar things happen among the Catholics, as well. As a rule, if you dig to the root you’ll find someone preaching a Christ other than the apostles preached, and women with a degree of authority over the church.
          I wonder if this is what Paul was seeing when he declared women should keep silent at church, and that if they wanted to learn they should only ask their husbands…

        3. I tried to ask my ex, who was starting to preach more feminist crap at the time, how she felt about the last passage you wrote about Paul. You can imagine how well that one went over……

        4. Exactly, what Paul meant was that women should be silent in church and wear head coverings. There are like a thousand sermons about what Paul “really meant” or “essentially meant” by those passages.
          I mean, I think he said it…

        5. “THAT Paul, what a jerk sometimes, am I right ladies?”
          Probably nahhht, he wrote part of the Bible.
          Those pastors, up to their tricks still trying to get laid.

        6. she wanted to blow you then whip you, so she could fit in with her married friends

        12. Keep up with the wall of posts and see yourself get banned. Just warning you.

        14. Of course, it shouldn’t matter because you’re here for good conversation and not just to posture on the internet, right?
          I mean, I’d rather not have to go through the internet to have conversations about things with any degree of depth. I’d rather just live in a normal world where everyone isn’t trying to be internet famous and too good for anyone else, and where people were able to normally talk with one another. I think this is the first time I’ve interacted with you? Frame it as “helping”, but wow, that’s a remarkable introduction.
          I have very little tolerance left at the end of the day for dealing with yet more banality. I’m worn-out from reigning-in mental energy, and depleted from constantly generating morale that I don’t have. If you think people want me to leave, that’s just fine. I’ve always gone beyond what was considered “good”, and have been despised for it. I have a teetering interest in well-being beyond my own. Thanks for your contribution, leader-guy. You really put me in my place there.

        15. As a rule, if you dig to the root you’ll find someone preaching a Christ other than the apostles preached, and women with a degree of authority over the church.

          I’m sure you’re right. A woman’s legitimate sphere of authority extends no further than her own children. And women who seek to wield authority in church are fundamentally rebellious.

          I wonder if this is what Paul was seeing when he declared women should keep silent at church, and that if they wanted to learn they should only ask their husbands…

          No doubt.
          We need more Pauls…

        16. The Bible? What are the odds…’
          Have to wonder what men are really afraid of. If you’re a Christian you’re not trying to sleep with the church girls, so they don’t have that power. Next, if she has a problem with it you’re shouldn’t date her anyway. Finally, it’s not heresy so you can’t be lawfully excommunicated over it, so just go nuts. In love and wisdom of course.
          That being said, I’ve had two friends run out of church for reputedly making women feel uncomfortable. The irony is, it was never any woman they talked to. You wouldn’t believe it unless you knew church people but each time it was some woman getting offended on behalf of someone else over something not remotely sexual or inappropriate, and then some junior pastor getting buff over it. I could write an article about this, I could it’s insane.

        17. That’s what kills me, I’ve heard the Bible mocked in church, someone mentions it and says “don’t go there” to titters. Sheesh, no background and no bottom.

        19. pastors are essentially gammas with slutty wives, trying to amog the room, on a knife’s edge from completely skrillexing:

        21. Church near local state Uni where I live that targets outcasts, gays, liberalism, etc. Funny watching it grow with blue-hairs.

        25. I believe it’s non-denominational or some dumb shit. Although they probably worship at the altar of “climate change” no doubt… So many of these wack, subverted, psuedo-churches around Montgomery County, MD..

        26. The shitlib leaning protestant churches are UME Methodist, Lutheran, Presbytarian and to some extent Episcopalian. Most are unaware but the Episcopal church does have nuns. ‘Maryland All Saints Sisters of the Poor’ are the 1st Episcopal order of nuns to become a Catholic community. Others like the ‘Order of Julian of Norwich’ remain Episcopalian with Episcopal monks and nuns. Catholic charities though are active in resettling refugees.
          The conservative protestant group of churches are Baptist, Seventh Day Adventist, Church of God and Church of Christ. They don’t have their hands as dirty as the shitlib churches do with pipelining in nonwhite replacement. As 501c3, they all have to tithe in one way or another to the globalist elites who also control and print the money they all spend but must exclude themselves from being taxed on. Though the shitlib (4) churches went far above and beyond. They coughed up their souls.
          The church building with the BLM sign looks like an older building, probably of the shtlib 4 variety. All the ‘New Life’ type community churches have converted box-store tabernacles that used to be an old Costco or Carpet Warehouse. But they’re basically all fairly active in the resettlement and fanning of refugees into unknown residences in deeper heartland areas where a working white family would have to earn their trust or business or outright marry into a local family. But the Somalis get plopped right on the community’s doorstep like a UPS package only it’s not UPS or even the USPS. IT’S THE UMC! And the delivery vehicle isn’t a brown cargo van. It’s a yellow or white with green stripe church bus.

      2. do not worry, Islam is knocking at the door! once white eterosexual males are almost extincts, muslims will be the majority in USA/EU and they will end this rotten nazifeminism once for all.

    3. I don’t know about girls in the Midwest and everything because I’m not american, but I can tell you this: you can beat guys driving Gallardo’s if you have something that man doesn’t; if you have an ‘edge’ it is possible to beat their money.
      An acquaintance of mine has money, more money than me, but in the end I have more success with women than him, why? I’m smarter, well built, better looking and with more charisma.
      Money is important, and of course having it increase the possibilities of having success with women, but in the end doesn’t mean success by itself.

    4. I found openings to ring the anti-city bell a lot lately. Spent most of my life living in cities and can also attest from experience the non-metro gals are much better material to work with.

    5. There is plenty of good looking women on big cities. If you want to have a one night fuck, why would it matter if these women are broken or not? And if competition is so bad in these places, why just not pay a hooker?
      You’re advicing experienced men to ruin the few good women lasting in western society just because of a few nights of pleasure? If you’re doing it at least keep it to yourself, don’t come here encouraging this hedonist behavior in the face of the moral crisis we’re living in.
      Everyone here should know that. The best way of fighting the current culture war is through your heritage. By raising families. When you fuck a somewhat innocent girl whitout comiting to her, you worsen her chances of being a good mother and wife.
      If you’re not helping, you’re in the way. Grow a sense of nacionalism and morality and try to not worsen the chances of men who want to have families.
      You know, but you don’t want to accept that virginal marriage is the last redpill.

    6. There is plenty of good looking women on big cities. If you want to have a one night fuck, why would it matter if these women are broken or not? And if competition is so bad in these places, why just not pay a hooker?
      You’re advicing experienced men to ruin the few good women lasting in western society just because of a few nights of pleasure? If you’re doing it at least keep it to yourself, don’t come here encouraging this hedonist behavior in the face of the moral crisis we’re living in.
      Everyone here should know that. The best way of fighting the current culture war is through your heritage. By raising families. When you fuck a somewhat innocent girl whitout comiting to her, you worsen her chances of being a good mother and wife.
      If you’re not helping, you’re in the way. Grow a sense of nacionalism and morality and try to not worsen the chances of men and women who want to have families.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2bcc78ccd0108edb5ce6586c5b3006634df0237a922604e47352b75e924d73d.png
      You know, but you don’t want to accept that virginal marriage is the last redpill.

      1. That’s the paradox, I feel inclined to counsel the lesser evil.
        Be chaste (not necessarily celibate), if you can’t be chaste don’t try and ruin some girl who’s trying. And none of that, “it’s going to be someone so it might as well be me” horseshit.
        Eugenio Corti had a high opinion of male chastity and I think he’s on to something. All this time and effort and for what? Plus, has any of us ever met a true pussy hound who wasn’t trying to fill some other need? I don’t mean a guy who gets laid a lot, I mean a guy who is always scheming on sex.

        1. In the absence of higher ideals, chastity, morality et al are just an issue of convenience and taste. Everything else is BS.

        2. Well sure, that’s why real secularism doesn’t really work for us. Nobody does the work necessary to make safe hedonism possible motivated by hedonism.
          Additionally any kid can tell you that a desire to be left alone and not fight has no bearing on whether bullies single you out or not.

      2. Thought I would ever see a non-emotional, cohesive comment that speaks to the future if things do not truly change. Write, vlog blog all they want, men have only themselves to blame for the current society.

        1. i like how you just absolved yourself of any responsibility for your own crotch there

        2. “non-emotional”, what a load of pseudo-intellectual garbage

        4. Yea, I think we should absolve every last woman from adult behavior, and finally treat each one of them like children in adult bodies as they act. Men, thus, will begin to regain their patriarchal viscera and social dominance or die as a test group affected by liberalism & feminism. Pretty much current state of affairs by that logic anyways.

        5. To women, freedom can be easely subverted into degeneracy. Because they’re more emotional, they don’t think much in the long run as men do, and they’re greately suseptible to the current social norms of their community.
          So if we have feminism as the current social norm, most women will have the feminist mentality, even when they don’t call themselves feminists. On the other hand, if you have a society that requires women to take responsability for their actions, they will do it. Whatever the case, most women will live according to social demands, because women instinctively seek validation.
          Why? Because throught human history women were always at the mercy of the dangers of the world, much more than men, so they need protection. This protection comes from their society, men protect women as a collective standard in society. A society is a conglomeration of families with common values and goals, homogeneity under several aspects. Therefore, a society whitout homogeneity can’t provide protection, so both men and women developed ways to ensure social homogeneity, each with their own methods according to their biological predispositions. To women, this means policing other women and themselves through collective validation. That’s why women want social validation, it is a logical result of this pattern.
          So, if women seek validation, how it was possible for feminism to be created, since it defied all the social norms of the time?
          Because, in first place, men, not women, determine the social norm. Women only act according to it; And second, there always existed damaged/degenerate women and men. These few degeberate people can change the entire social norm through cultural subversion. Women are specially suseptible to the influence of these people because it is easier to subvert the natural female instincts of validation than to subvert masculinity, that’s why powerful people with plans of social subversion have women as their main target.
          The only thing that can stop the influence of degenerate people is masculine men, because they won’t allow unworthy people to rule over anything.
          Therefore, feminism was created because men became weak, they allowed degenerate people with plans of subversion into the leadership of society. Therefore, Sondra is right when she says that the current situation is the fault of men.
          To fix this situation, we don’t need to fix damaged women, this generation is already lost, we have to look at the future. We need to live according the values we determine for women and society. Raise your daughter under traditional values, don’t validate female promisquity, don’t praise sluts, don’t bow your head to bossy females or cuck men. That’s how men can lead culture back to normal, through your personal exemple that leads to collective action.
          Once the standards are set, women will follow naturaly.

        6. indeed, since women are only kids who can’t take responsabilities as well, uh?
          in every way, it’s men fault, please do me a favor and go back to wwwyougogrrrl.com

        7. You wrote a lot of good points in the first part were i agree, but the rest from:
          “Therefore, feminism was created because men became weak, they allowed
          degenerate people with plans of subversion into the leadership of
          society. Therefore, Sondra is right when she says that the current
          situation is the fault of men.”
          keep on dreaming! average joe’s haven’t power to do nothing, elites and females done this mess!
          So men become weak due state laws and feminism, ask average joe’s what is his “power” no men have power today! no rights whatsoever, are you still believing women are the weak gender? they are unicorns? please give me a break!
          women are kids who never helps out their men, they are parassite who simply choose the best for them, even if this means to get married with the enemy (refer to WW2)
          Sondra is NOT right, she simply can’t get their responsabilities! since there were no women march in any cities to criticize male bashing worldwide, she are here just to ride the band wagon as many does before her, like those who wrote books about male bashing just for money, women cannot understand the value of honor and dignity as males do, and if you cannot fix the society, every child will be poisoned and ruined by it in the future! your words are just.. words! time will tell, i can wait.

        8. A child can’t take responsability for its actions, as it doesn’t understand the dangers of the world. So when a child does wrong, the parents take responsability. You say women are children, but at the same time expects them to take responsability. If women are children, who are responsible for them?
          You guess it.
          This power of men was called patriarchy. I never said nowadays men have any power, I said men HAD power, a power that vanished when patriarchy was destroyed. We can fix the situation by bring back patriarchy.
          Elites and females done this mess, and what men did? Fucking nothing. They either didn’t noticed what was happening, ignored and kept living their lifes, or joined the degeneracy themselves. Either way, men are not exempt in this situation.
          Do you even read the articles of this site?

        9. with words?good luck to change laws, good luck to teach women how to behave when lot’s of pua and starving average joe’s went in the bar and act as buffon with sluts just to bang her, good luck to change the State chumps who rule over us! good luck to teach men to do not engage to sluts when they are starving for pussy! good luck dreamer! you need it!

        10. Respond to the fucking dilema you created.
          If women are children, who are responsible for them?
          I bet you also don’t understand that principles come, at first, from words. Words that must be put in practice. I’m already married with a traditional women, and of course it was not on a bar that I found her.
          You don’t see good women because you’re a degenerate yourself, not only you don’t look at the right places, but also good women will avoid you.

        11. you won’t catch a flies even if its dead on the ground! my point was that WOMEN ARE ADULT BEINGS!!! so stop threat them like CHILDREN! let them feel the CONSEGUENCES of their mistakes and Bad behaviours! no more pussy pass! got it??
          p.s.: if you insult means that you are a pussy! hence go fuck yourself!
          p.p.s: good luck to stay in the right “frame” in your marriage, otherwise a good welcome to the divorcees is always granted, don’t worry! ah! and about the fact that you are married.. i don’t give a dumb fuck too.

        12. Tell you what, when you and your lot waddle up those basement steps and do not succumb to the inner thigh chafing and spontaneously com bust, lets meet face to face. Your generation is the first in history to earn less than women #Sirssucksalot #generationdidnothingotherthanwhine.

        13. yawn, same old shit related to “The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics”
          Exposingfeminism: https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/
          no, you are wrong! because we men build everythings you see around you! even today WE, MEN, are in charge to fix and run smootly everythings you ungrateful females use every day! your lipsticks are men-made, the computer and keyboard you are using right now! even your used vagina is useless without a male dick inside it! you women are, generally speaking, unrespectable, ungrateful parassite opportunistics cunts, If it were not for the intuition and the hard work of men, you women still live in caves or swamps so your statement slide upon my ignore wall, now go back in the corner, we men have to discuss important topics here!

        14. Fair enough. I do however feel that a deeper bottoming is in order to create the greatest possible contrast so a larger mass of originally, or newly masculinized men can stake undeniable claims to the paradigm shift which needs to happen. Not that claiming anything needs to be egotistical, but rather the spoils of which prove without a doubt, there’s a better way for society to conduct life, mindful that a better society will automate the losing of female “rights” as we know them today. Alas, the last line you said: “Once the standards are set, women will follow naturaly.” As long as legislation isn’t changed, with expected enormous upheaval bitch-a-thons in attempts to do so, the difficulty won’t be just parabolic, it will be like a never ending radiused ski jump uphill battle.
          I’m just not sure society can masculinize the amount of men needed in a quick enough time to pull it off. One can only hope, and be actionable at best, for now.

        15. Our focus might be much better spent on fixing the “elitists” problem. Ultimately they’re pulling the puppet strings. Small bands of lone-wolf men self-correcting by example will still get squashed by a single elitist’s swath of the social-forming-sword.

        16. I agree, although I don’t think a man’s example is easely squashed. Even if that’s the case, living according these standards is still better.

      4. Tis a test of temptation bruh. If a girl is a bimbo-bot, the marketplace will flush that out of her until it’s no longer hidden by her social group or society as a whole. That is in fact doing a great service to men, making it more obvious the “type” of behavior to avoid. The more they engage, the more their souls are scarred, the less hidden it remains.
        I don’t need to show a woman(en) how to stop being whores & sluts, they need to make a conscious decision to not be one, or stop being one. Well… can’t make a whore a housewife as we all know, so problem is you can’t cross that line and ever technically come back. Drug addict, dick addict, once one, forever one.

      5. good advice to be another ATM dad, marriage is over, there are nothing inside for men anymore, today only dumb men get married, smart men go abroad where laws are even and women are femminine.
        Plus, with the actually women sex liberation, STD’s are on rampage, women smoke, weed or tobacco, drinks, eat trash food, good luck to find a decent gal who is not poisoned by nazifemminism and in good shape! and good luck if she never change her mind and put your mariage end when the wows are over.
        Get real, the sooner, the better. pump&dump the best advice ever!

        1. Bullshit, just overreacting to the degeneracy of our times. There’s still good women on the west, but you have to know where to look.
          Don’t shape your life according to the adversities, fix the adversities. That’s our job. If you can’t do this, go MGTOW. Humankind don’t need your weak genes.

        2. it doesn’t matter, she have always the law by her side, not you! and about the adversity, you are talking to revolution, otherwise be real, our society is doomed, is a femminazi police state that keeps average joe’s always in check! not all men who read here are wealthy or ready to do a revolution, so is not a matter of job or else, so call me when you want to do a revolution, im in! otherwise just avoid any nosense advices for illusionary people who still believe in unicorns in pussyla-la-land!

        3. You’re not realist, you’re pessimist.
          The revolution is already happenning, as I explained. You can participate in by raising a traditional family and become an alpha provider. Sure not all men can do this, but every alpha men can actually do if they really want.
          I’m appealing to these men, assuming men who attend this site are alphas or are trying to become.

        4. Women are being rewarded for breaking up families or to be single mothers. Men are being rewarded for not getting married. What do you expect to happen?

        5. The revolution will not be televised… because there is no revolution brother.

        6. im realistis, you are a keyboard lion who simply try to brainwash the harsh reality
          You may do a revolution and change things, but there are not enought men outta there with guts, well actually there are a lot of keyboard lion like you! of course!
          please check the divorce rateo in USA and EU as well and get some reality check by yourself, check the wova act, the divorce laws, the Istanbul convenction, the gender equality shit in every nation, the media, and everythings related to women.
          ROK readers aren’t enought to even pretend to have a summit as Roosh try to do many times without being forced to get undercover! what the hell are you talking about??
          YOU CAN’T WIN when the game is rigged against YOU! and It’s not about winning anymore, with women you can’t win. At this stage, it’s all about not losing. There are a thousand ways to lose, but there’s only one way to not lose: become an unapologetic bachelor asshole. This is not some seduction strategy or game advice, it’s a life requirement. fuck marriage!
          No one likes to be a bachelor, however today It’s a survival tactic that will help you succeed during these turbulent times. What I am saying, though, is that you should never put your dignity and self-respect on the negotiating table. In other words: don’t be a spineless pussy, don’t get married! do not procreate since kids will never been yours! pump&dump and go abroad for a family and stay there! America and EU are doomed! 3 or 100k new families cannot change the bad tides we are living in, open your eyes and get real FFS!!

        8. Your analisis is accurate, but your conclusion is wrong. There are several forces working on our behalf, populism is only the beginning.
          It is simple, degenerates don’t have much children. Victory is not for us, it is for future generations. We can win this game in the long run, by merely breeding and rasing the children under traditional values, as we’re suppose to do as human beings in first place. But even if the situation were as hopeless as you say, I would take the risk. Revolutions don’t happen without sacrifices.
          “abandon your nation to doom”
          Grow a fucking sense of nacionalism you faggot. Your ancestors died defending it.
          “muh I want to stay safe”
          Men should either save their nations, or die trying.

        9. So you’re saying it is impossible to reverse this situation? The Trump election, populism, raise of conservatism among young people, this is all pointless in your opinion?

        10. Nice tale! oh, wait, it was for real?really? ok.. let’s suppose for a moment i would agree withyou.. i, i WANT to save MY COUNTRY! i WILLl marry.. ok! ehm… who?
          sluts? landwhales? femminists? because i can’t see women around.. just those who i wrote before! wait! are you talking about Ladies???? those 0,001% left? too bad they are very few among the other.. oh! almost forgot, even if i manage to find one of them, and i offer her whatever she expected to me (and more than other starving average joe’s) i must abide to the pussy State laws, or the magic days are over!
          wait! we are on ROK right? so i figure out i should keep my “frame” my manly frame.. of course! i must have lots of kids in this marvelous life, because yes! i want to save the State! or dye trying!!
          …so let’s sum up my next goal, shall we?
          Quest of the week: Find a decent Lady!
          1) she must have a low noch count
          3) she must be fit
          4) she must be femminine
          5) she must be loyal
          6) she must..
          *DRIIIiiIIIiiiiiiIIIIiiiin”
          ..dream are over, time to wake up Rivershield! follow the white slut!

        11. “nationalism is a tale”
          You must be a shill on a divide and conquer quest. Anyway, I will not argue with defeatists.

        12. im not fleeing.. im just rushing in another direction.. self defence! good luck in your quest!
          THE QUEST FOR THE STATE
          (c)Rivershield 2017
          Sponsored by: Attorneys’r’us, Slut inc., YourfriendlyState. Yougogrrl.com

        13. That conservatism was partially reversed recently in Britain when Corbyn started promising free stuff.
          When things can’t go on forever they tend to stop. The situation will eventually reverse but who knows when? In the meantime they are tightening the screws.

        14. Damn Dangun, I’ve been reading this forum for years, and I haven’t seen another man sum up my thoughts so well. I was beginning to think I was crazy… All this talk of finding a good woman in the heaping steam of shit, and then you decode it flawlessly. You’re right sir. Pump and dump is the winning solution. It’s not what many want to hear, it’s not as well packaged or dreamy as “the one.” But I think people should stop equating today to years of the past. I’ve stated this before on here, today is completely different than any other time in history where men fought and died for honor…. Because those times HAD honor; and of course loyal women too. Things were once worth dying for. Today, men dying for what? Democracy? Marriage (aka divorce)? Child support?

        15. you nailed it Marc! those times DESERVE our male sacrifice due those hard times rewarding us with decent wife, good societies and kids to live in! those times are over, hence gaming a slut and be Captain save-a-ho is not for real man! just for pussies begging for used slut’s pussy!

        16. You’re right, there’s plenty of good women, just look outside the major cities. Find one who has good parents who wouldn’t accept a divorce from their daughter because of her feels.

        17. Trump? Trump is as tradition-minded as Obama is Swedish. Nationalism may be on the rise, but not traditionalism, the current wave of nationalism is only based on the disgust of the “Other” not on a return to the mores of 1900 or an abrogation of the “female liberation”. It’s an empty gesture. Even to this day many in the “nationalist” cause deny the importance of birthrates and a young population. Their disgust (justified) of the Other has overridden their reasoning capabilities…

        18. I don’t know about the U.S. but in Europe the male to female ratios are even worse than in the cities, due to the ageing. Young people move to the cities and just a few stay in the country. So in our case in the little towns competition is far more fierce…

        19. Interesting… in the US, young women in cities are generally very feminist and focusing on careers more than family. However, in the suburbs and smaller cities there are often large numbers of women who are looking for a husband. I think this is because of the expense of living in the urban core as a single person.
          I’ve been having good success lately with girls who work at Starbucks in the suburbs. They’re usually intelligent and educated but since Starbucks isn’t a career they appreciate my income and status in a way that a corporate-type girl won’t. I find a cute barista and come in when it’s not busy and chat her up and get her number. Plus it plays into their fantasies of ‘randomly’ meeting the right guy, little do they know that I’m on my third Starbucks of the day.

        20. Interesting. The only place where I’ve found this to be true is certain parts of Latin America.

        21. Once people start to become nationalist, they will wonder as a collective mind what is the better solution for the nation. That’s when traditionalism enters the game. There’s no nationalism whitout traditionalism, as the two things are born from the same mindset.

        22. Wow, pretty spot on. I have to agree. Why do you think we see some many degenerates in the digital age of the alt-right. People like Blair white trannies or Lauren southern sloots, etc.

        23. Well, I don’t know really since I hardly watch youtube videos beside some courses or musical videos. However all I can say is that the alt-right, in its current state, is a visceral (and healthy IMO) reaction to the actions of our elites and the little fact that nothing else in the socio-political spectrum speaks to the subconscious (and very real) needs and concerns of the public (love for their ancestors, love of their land, respect for their culture, a future for their people now threatened with impoverishment and soft invasion etc.). The problem however iss that the very public is depraved, hence they cannot hope to muster the strength of people 40 years ago, let alone the mores of the classical West.
          I fear the reaction is gonna be visceral and vicious, the elite will escape unscathed, some of their main puppets will meet their demise in horrendous and imaginative ways, the invaders expelled or finished (in some countries) while in others are more successful, at least in the short run, however the main plan of the elite will be advanced one way or another…

        24. I guess only time will tell. The only thing I saw the last time I was in my country was apathy mixed with disgust for the other disguised with a layer of PC platitudes…the worst thing is that the normies are usually the minions of murderous regimes and at the drop of the hat can become killer bots beyond reasoning and justice depending on the programming.

      6. Men aren’t ruining any women. Those girls are making their own choices.

        1. Not an argument.
          Did you understand what I said? Yes, girls are making their own choices, choices out of ignorance, a ignorance men allowed to exist. To say otherwise is to say that men didn’t managed society.
          Are you denying that society used to be patriarchal?

        2. there were NO PATRIARCHY, women always rules and exploited men, weak men!
          we live in a vaginocracy! were women are pper class being just for a pussy and men are disposable! History teach this to us, no women fought for anythings!
          do you remember the white feather given to those men who didn’t went in war?
          you have the right to believe what you want, take the blue pill and become a white knight fighting for women!

        4. really? well let’s see…
          cavemen usually hunt for food, women stay in the cavern
          they usually got killed, women just fuck another man
          men fought for lands while women stay in the castle and houses, eventually they get killed, if enemy was the winner, they simply marry them and have kids with them
          men always died to defend the women, never the reverse.
          the butcher work his ass off, in dirty clothes and bad enviroment while his wife chat all days with other ladies
          men went to work, their condition was unhealty, many died at work, women stay in the office, unhappy since the coffee machine is broken
          many of them was killed in the 2 wars, many of them was only 19 (in Vietnam) no women lost their lifes
          and so on..
          men are disposable slaves, they must abide to women will, they are exploited, they believe hare the head of the family, but women are the neck!
          Maybe you should consider your point of view regarding patriarchy, if it was patriarchy.. hell! where the men’s right are gone?
          Keep on dreaming white knight!

        6. i told you.. im an unapologetic bachelor asshole, do you have any other concerns or you have only a basic set of answer?
          i believe you just finished up your set of answers, i told you in every way what i believe and my point of views, i won’t change them as i don’t expect you to change yours, so good luck in your quest!

        7. No its not an argument its a statement of fact. Your point?
          I understood what you said and responded directly. So you retract your earlier statement about men ruining women?

        8. No, I don’t retract my statement.
          But “men ruining women” is a bit of a equivocated term. It’s more like “men not administring society properly, which led to women ruining themselves”. So men are responsible, but indirectly.

        9. I often find it dificult to understand american sarcasm, but you didn’t understand my statement either.
          For the sake of organization I’ll respond to all your comments in this one comment.
          “my point was that WOMEN ARE ADULT BEINGS”
          Women are indeed children in two aspects: first, they should be under the authority of a men, be it her father or husband; second, they need protection and guidance of men because if they’re let to do it themselves, they’re likely to get lost in life; As we all know, women shouldn’t have too much freedom, because it will end in unhealthy ways. I’m not saying how things ARE, I’m saying how it was, and how it SHOULD be.
          The difference between women and actual children, is that women can face the consequences of their behavior, while the parents take responsability for children.
          “let them feel the CONSEGUENCES”
          They’re already feeling it. Women are statisticaly miserable as never before in western history.
          And I never said women shouldn’t face the consequences of their behavior. I actually said that this generation is lost, the only thing we can do is have as many children as we can and educate them properly, which involves having the right enviroment to raise them: marriage (Now, if it is possible to find wife material in the west it’s another matter, but you should research about the quiverfull movement to grasp the idea). That’s what I’ve been advocating for from the beginning, but you seem to have assumed that I’m trying to save damaged women. I’m not. What I’m trying to save is the next generation.
          I may be equivocated in my opinions, but becoming an “bachelor asshole” is definitely not the solution. I do think you should change your opinion because it will be harmfull for you and for your community.

        10. So if I shag some woman I’m not ruining her since someone else already did?

      7. Another moralist on attack mode. At least I hope you have a half dozen children. Otherwise you don’t know what you are talking about. He is not advocating virgin or quasi-virgin hunting for God’s sake.

        1. I don’t have yet, but I’ve come from a big family and I plan to have at least 5 kids.

    7. Agree, and then man up to treat that 7+ like you would like your future son-in-law to treat your daughter.
      If you do not, you’re a hypocrite.
      And being honest with yourself, you want your daughter to live a happy life in a solid marriage with enough kids to constitute a real family, and with a husband that is strong and fair.
      Be that man.

    8. “If you are going to game nubile young women, do it in parts of the country where the young women have lower expectations and haven’t ruined themselves completely yet”
      I hear what you’re sayin, man – but if some wholesome midwestern farm girl who lives in the middle of nowhere has a smartphone and internet access, she’s done.
      The mating ritual has already drastically changed today. It will get to the point when guys who want to meet a chick will only be able to do do via the latest dating app (they have already passed a law in the UK that forbids men from chatting it up with women in public places) where he’ll try to meet up some skank with the least amount of tattoos and least amount of STD’s. And in turn he’ll have to offer her drugs or money or something tangible. Love, as us older guys have understood it to be, is dead.

    9. You should visit a small town in Germany, wonderful things to see. I am not talking about the hills and trees.

    10. There really aren’t that many 8s and 9s whoring it out. That is a small group of girls and you find them in certain places. In any case, in those places the super-rich boys are still competing with each other.
      Just get in where you fit in and you’ll be fine.

    12. “If you are going to game nubile young women, do it in parts of the country where the young women have lower expectations and haven’t ruined themselves completely yet. ”
      …and you compete with every Tom, Dick & Harry in town, of which there are way more than nubile women. The cities have better ratios, no matter how you slice it. Even then some of them still suck. The girls who haven’t yet left small town USA are well aware of what they could be getting, so not sure it matters as much as you think it does but YMMV.
      The sexual marketplace is fully deregulated and they have a hand held device giving them hourly peeks at the stock room of the candy store

  3. To raise the moral of ordinary looking guys, just know that the better looking you are the more immune you are to female beauty, and the more you have to work to find women you would bang – most women look ugly when you’re very attractive.
    The world is truly fair to everyone. These articles although right, give out the wrong idea.

  4. For all this chase talk, this is not making men the prize. It makes you needy as fuk. If your “buying’ a gal by showing yourself as “rich” as a competition weapon- than your going to get a gold digger. There is nothing wrong with living simply and elegent while hiding your 401k value. In the end; you will most likely pay dearly for a couple of squirts . These rich guys are not buying anything worth having as a human because the day the ring is on; it will turn on them. A guy can’t hide who he is. Most people are not take no prisoners alpha which makes you a beta – sooner or later. I knew guys in my life who were strong alpha and their wives ended up just turning into fatties. Woman don’t care- they will cash in or stay in the marriage unless the man gets it done on the side and she catches wind. Thats a crapshoot bet at best. If you just want a gold digger – than hire a prostitute and keep your money.

        9. And always say sorry babe…sorry im so sorry for being born a man babe…please I beg you…anything babe anything.

        12. A married cousin of mine posted some bullshit meme on fb where the father is telling his son that he will be ready to get married when learns to say “I’n sorry” even if it’s not his fault. Poor chump. I wonder how that is working for him.

        16. If you are german , take her to the local refugee centre every friday.
          It brings her in the mood.

        21. This shit is quite mainstream. Poor chumps think they have found the key to a happy marriage.

        23. Take all your advice from a guy who’s been divorce-raped countless times.
          Joel met his first wife in 1970, through his friend and bandmate Jon Small. Elizabeth Weber was married to Small, and they had a baby son, Sean — but Joel was knocked out. “She wasn’t like a lot of the other girls I knew at that time who had taken home ec and cooking classes,” he told Schruers. “She was . . . intelligent and not afraid to speak her mind, but could also be seductive. Almost like a European-type — not a typical American girl.”
          Oh my god, this is great. What a fucking dumbass.

        25. It’s not automatically a certain guarantee.
          To insure yourself you’ve got to provide communication constantly.

        33. feel free to cry before her, to show that a real man can handle his emotions.

        35. it’s amazing the lot of bullshit we certainly took in the past and can be used nowadays to joke about

        38. dismiss all other girl’s phone numbers, in order to prove your faith to her

        40. introduce her to your good looking alpha friend who is well known to slay every pussies he come across. And let them exchange numbers, because of friendship of course.

        43. post some shitty picture with “i’m so happy to have such a wife/girlfriend like you” for everyone to see on her facebook

        45. Back in the day it was my utmost pleasure to introduce my woman to my friends. Now I want to keep them hidden in a cave.

        46. Women like emotional men.
          Be brave enough to show that you trust her by crying before her.

        49. lol, same here. Especially when i saw one of my friend tried to seduce her, even if he’s far from my level lol. really eye opening to see such things

        50. wax ? why not just shave her clean, just in case she met someone special that night.. (gosh, what kind of bullshit i’m saying in this thread. unbelievable)

        51. refuse hard core sex and propose cuddles and tender kisses instead, to convey the message that you love her for her personnality, not her body

        52. It’s been eye opening to me that whenever a friend introduces me his hot girl , I feel like I want to fuck her. I might even try to do it.

        53. i confess i have always that feeling. knowing my own nature, i can deduce all other inner nature. That is the red pill spirit !!

        57. And they feel superior for being married, Like I´m winning the game of life and you are playing boy games fucking daily young nubile girls. They feel superior until divorce rape came

        58. Ha Ha Ha !! Now just trying to imagine a MAN asking a pussy “permission/consent” first:
          =Can I “rub” your …. ? OK ? Thank you !
          =Can I “suck” your …. ? OK ? You are great !
          =Can I “slowly finger” your …. ? OK ? You are amazing !
          =Can I “tightly squeeze” your …. ? OK ? You are lovely !
          =Can I “start banging” …. ? NO !? Fuck you bitch !!
          Permission/Consent, Ha Ha Ha !!

  6. You reckon those cats would let me in Harrods after I parked my pickup out front and tried to walk in with muddy boots on?
    Sometimes I’m glad I’m too old to worry about this kind of stuff.

    1. Or save money buy life like sex dole that sits on the couch waiting to be fucked and never opens its mouth except when you want to fuck it.

    2. Yeah that’s what westerners do. They can’t cope with the competition in their countries so pack their bags and flee to poorer countries

  8. Miami has probably a higher percentage of billionaires among its population than London. Yet, I found when I was there that it was far easier to get a good-looking (solid 8), decent girl than in London – without being a billionaire.

    2. London has more billionaires than Miami. About 70 in London compared with 30 based in Florida. London still one of the richest cities on the planet.

      1. Troy
        That may be true.
        The overall male-female ration is still better in Miami than in London.
        The quality of girls in Miami is also FAR better than in London.

  9. There are some hard truths when it comes to game.
    Firstly, yes there are tons of guys giving women attention but the vast majority have zero chance of pussy especially with 8s + in big cities. Even with those ugly girls it will be hard because every girl thinks she is a princess. Woman have massive egos.
    Secondly, even if you do intensive day game and approach like a monster you will probably only ever at most have sex with 5-7% of the girls you encounter. That’s if you’re good. Average is probably lower like 2-3% esp for beginners. Granted over the course of a year it’ll add up to like 20-50 bangs which puts you waaaaay above the majority. But the point is you have to work your ass off.

    1. Quit talking in absolutes so much, no, not every girl thinks she is a princess, I know several who don’t.
      Guys, guys, listen. You’re going off of what you see on pop media, Tinder, Instagram, etc. Those are the vapid, money- grubbing attention whore’s. The girls that are down to earth, intelligent, and decent……don’t advertise on the internet.
      If you are genuine, open about what you want, and act like you give half a damn about her as a person, there are thousands upon thousands of quality, bang-worthy women out there. Hard to find in all the noise? Sure. Are they cautious? Hell yeah, they would be stupid not to be. Are they worth a little time investment? Yes.
      I know game theory, and all that “no woman is more important than my life” stuff. I agree with it. The vast majority of women have real things to offer you, not just their vagina, tits and mouth.
      Know what turns me on about a female? In order of importance:
      1. Intelligence
      2. Body I respond to in some fashion
      3. She has enough self respect to be actively improving her life, and acts like a feminine individual.
      If she has got those three attributes, and is willing to tango….Damn, numbers don’t matter.

      1. I was clearly talking about guys approaching using day game which is clearly a numbers game.
        The post was also aimed at guys looking to just get laid. I’m past all that now but some guys aren’t

  10. Like poverty, not getting pussy is a state of mind

    1. and like richest get richer, it’s the same for pussy, the more you can have the more you can get

  11. 1. Never pay the ridiculously inflated prices women try to demand for their pussies. Why pay thousands when the same result can be achieved with an invitation for a good ice-cream at an ice-cream parlor, from a man with balls?
    2. Ignore what the world says about which girl is a 10 (or a 9, or an 8). Know your type, and go after your type of girl only. My personal experience is that for my type of girl, more often than not, I happen to be the type of guy she prefers.
    3. Money and muscle does not hurt, but they are not shortcuts, only helping tools. Rich guys get cheated on with good looking guys, good looking guys get cheated on with rich guys, both gets cheated on with an unkempt, unemployed loser in the bathroom of the club for a line of coke. The circle of life and all that.
    4. What you really need is taking masculine actions based on masculine thinking, to have an overall masculine attitude: approach, escalate, always be closing.

    1. Dude, hell yes on number 2.
      There is a type that flips your switch, I think that’s your genes talking to you. It’s not always obvious. We’ve all met conventionally attractive girls that just leave you cold, I think it’s natures way of warning you off.

      1. The flipside is societally unconventionally attractive people that get you worked up.
        I find the HB scale really autistic and that ain’t no compliment.
        The alphaness of a man is about does he get what HE views as most desirable, not some outside arbiter of taste.
        Does he get the girl he wants or is he pining like a bitch?

        1. Thumb up!
          I also don’t understand the HB scale. At first I thought it’s because of my culture background (I’ve never heard guys speaking about similar scale in my country, but of course it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist in some circles), but the more I
          read articles and comments here, the more it seems not only autistic, but narcissistic to me. But there are exceptions of course. In other discussion I asked one user (I forgot his name), if the perfect 10 has to have big boobs and he answered something like “not my perfect 10, I am into small tits”, so I understood that HE took the HB scale subjectively).
          However, I am not sure whether sexual chemistry is always mutual, as I wrote above. Thinking about it now again… The other thing is that I didn’t meet many guys of “my type” here in CZ. And when I did, they were often foreigners and/or were into blonds. The ones who are attractive to those who they find attractive are lucky.

      2. 99% of women are not for me.
        They are not my partners, not my women.
        They are cool, they are hot, they are sexy – but they are not my women, and I am not their men.
        Let other men be happy with them.
        But that 1% is mine!
        My beloved, beautiful ladies.
        From the rest, the 99%, all I want is that they know their place, shut their mouths, and behave lady-like.

    2. Number 2 sounds interesting to me too.
      As a woman, I also have “my type”. It has nothing to do with money or muscles (rather the opposite), I am into some facial features and complexion. Unfortunatelly, I’m not and I haven’t ever been attractive for those guys :-(. I met only one guy in my life, that was totaly “my type” and who was (probably) interested in me (but we both were taken at that time).
      So, can you guys tell that you are attractive for women of “your type”?

      1. They do not go overboard, but if I hit on them, I am in with a good chance in most of such cases.
        I am not attractive to all young women, or even to most, but this gives me a certain peace of mind and the necessary confidence.

    3. Hunn, im very proud of men like you when i read those pills of wisdom, kuddos to ya, you got my vote!
      p.s.: point 3 is pure gold!

  12. A few years ago when I was doing day game in London, I approached a young woman at the Sushi bar on the fifth floor of Harvey Nicks (Harvey Nichols), and took her on an insta-date at a nearby 5-star hotel.
    “I only date men who are richer than me”, she proclaimed. “How much are you worth?”
    “Oh, somewhere around half a million”, I optimistically replied.
    “Sorry, I’m a management consultant to a group of Saudi princes”, she replied, showing me her business card. “Worth north of 5 million dollars”. “It was nice meeting you though. Cheerio!”
    Bitch!

    1. And those Saudi princes would have her in chains eating flintstones asshole if they got the chance.

      1. “Management consultant= I get shit on by Saudi Princes for money.”
        lol….Don’t kiss her!

      1. Your mother also? Stop this lament because you met only low -valuable women.

    4. You should of said, “Oh, by ‘men’ you mean clients, and by ‘date’ you mean fuck for money. Sorry I misunderstood you, I couldn’t make out what you were saying with your mouth full of Saudi jizz. I guess you were ‘consulting’ today?”

    5. You should have lied and said ohhhh about half a billion…but I dont like to spend money its not what drives me, nature and charity work is my driving forces. Then you hulk fuck and dump her ass..say something like “I have some children to save in Africa I just donated 5 million to build some water wells”

  13. Its so easy, just totally ignore western woman and goto places where girls love to fuck like Philippines, indonesia, east europe, thailand etc. Dont worry guys war is coming so woman will once again “Need a man” to save their sorry asses. Im one of these guys that will be very happy when war comes but I wont be fighting I will be breeding far far away from the front lines..yay North Korean woman might be bangable one day too instead of being hulk fucked by the tubby tyrant…nice and slim.

  14. I can easily hulk fuck 5-10 girls per day in Philippines…but the place is a shithole. Muslim girls love to fuck, they are not conservative at all.

    1. Muslim girls?
      In a 95% Catholic country?
      Where do you find them?
      In that terrorist region where D30 is cleaning house?

  15. Take it a step further and invest in one of those realistic sex doles….no nagging…just sits there waiting to be fucked as you see fit and its a one off payment…and no condoms required.

    1. I’ve read about sex dolls and from what I’ve heard they’re good as an add-on for in between periods, more as a great masturbation enhancer, but not yet there for a realistic alternative for a warm human body. Perhaps one day in the future

      1. Yea I saw an article they were opening sex dole brothels and prostitutes started protesting…haha the moment they relised their pussy is worthless.

    1. Or buy a realistic life like sex dole that just sits on the couch waiting to be fucked as you wish…one off payment no condoms required.

  18. The best way to get free sex is to start a porn site then use the money generated from it to pay for whores…pussy paying for pussy…little loophole.

  19. I love this site…but its made me into a totally unapologetic aloof asshole…is this normal side effects of red pill?

    1. Treat people the way you think they deserve to be treated. Good manners is indicative of quality character. Just don’t be a recreant.

      1. Well im polite to people but I refuse to be shamed for my opinions, If I feel like screaming out ” Hitler was a hero” or “Kill all muslims” then I think I should have that right without everyone getting all upset about it…when they do get “Triggered” it says more about them than it does about me. And most people dont deserve shit…I hate my country because the way the woman treat the men…and I make no hiding that fact.

        1. Of course. They’re weak people that are projecting their values on society at large. They don’t deserve respect.

        2. One of my friends said…and I quote “We live in a very soft society and people cant handle the truth” he hit the balls eye with that comment.

  20. My opinion……
    You just want to fuck something? Fine, go game all you want. If you don’t really care about the wrapping, you will get fucked. Sometimes, if you take a girl who is obviously below you status wise, you get better sex….she will feel you are doing her a favor.
    You want to enjoy women? Then you are going to have to go beyond game.
    If you are having trouble closing the deal, try something else until you find what works for YOU! Don’t worry about theory, or ”real game”, fuck all that. Do what works for you.
    Best advice ever: don’t set artificial limits, i.e. if we don’t fuck by the second date on to someone else….screw that. Women are as individual as you are, some need a bit more trust to fuck someone they just met. The ones that are good to go? Yeah, those are the ones you stay the fuck away from: crazy’s, skanks, reformed hookers, cock carousel riders, I mean do you really want to put your dick where every other dick has been before? Even with a condom?

  21. If you were a really high value male to begin with, you wouldn’t be doing day / night / internet game in the first place.
    That you even need to resort to that to begin with, is already a sign of your inferior status.
    The “game” mentioned in this article is nowhere near a replacement for real value.
    And if you think it is prepare to be in for a rude awakening.
    The more effort you invest into women, the less you have to invest in yourself.
    Just imagine how much work you are putting in for nothing. It really just seems like a glorified version of emasculation.
    Males don’t have any leverage or authority anymore, so now not only do they have to have the value and provide, but they also have to beg and plead for relations with women too, like homeless people with street signs.
    Men can’t use their real and natural value anymore, so they have to resort to this cuckold value instead.
    Just one big cucked society, even if you’re a alpha personally, you’re still a cuck collectively.

    1. there’s no such thing as “real value”, so there goes the argument

      1. This article is talking about the value that comes from how you interact with a women instead of higher more significant ones such as your actual achievements and personal qualities (such as say looks) in reality outside of that which is what I mean by “real value”.
        Those generally carry alot more weight and value than the conversation you have and behavior you exhibit during a single social interaction with someone.
        Kind of like the car you have vs how you are driving it.
        Of course they both matter, but I think it’s false to say they are anywhere near the same thing.
        Same with two people who act the same, but look completely different. Two totally different results.
        That’s what I mean by real value vs the value of “game” in this article.

        1. I thought you were talking about a man’s “real value”, in terms of the dating market. I must’ve read it wrong.

    2. Well do the muslim men learn game? No they overpower the bitch and fuck her like a real man would.

      1. I think that’s the other end of two extremes and the ideal is probably in the middle.
        I don’t really care for Islam or sharia regardless of their rejection of feminism.
        I don’t think that male leadership or authority has to be synonymous with rape or tyranny.
        And I don’t think that men and women have to be a win lose either.
        IE that either men are winning or women are and there is no win win.
        I think that’s a common misconception.

        1. Exactly. Both people should be benefitting from a relationship. It’s hard to make or keep a connection with some you are basically treating like shit. That goes for men and women. Men shouldn’t be used by women to buy them nice things and be at their beck and call when they feel like it because they are using their vaginas to keep them place. That’s outright entitled bitch behaviour. And women shoulden’t be used by men as a warm hole who is expected to wait on them hand and foot and have no independent thoughts or desires of their own. That’s outright loser behaviour.
          But it’s hard to vet out these scum to find decent men and women.

      2. You can do this too if you want filthy stinky hirsuite cave bitches

    3. “The effort you invest into women, the less you have to invest in yourself.” That’s a great statement and very true. That could be applied to women as well, the ones who spend most of their time gaming for a husband.
      The more effort and time you put into someone else, the more disappointed you will be when that someone doesn’t respond the way you want them too. The way you tried to game them into responding. I can see how a series of those disappointments leads to an AWALT/AMALT mentality.

    1. Used to think FDR was simply an economic failure, now I’ve accepted that he was a complete failure. We picked the wrong side.

      1. Wilson dug the grave.
        FDR put the nails in the coffin.
        LBJ threw the coffin in the hole.
        Obammy shoveled the dirt over the coffin.
        Was hoping that Trump would be the one to dig us out while we still have air…

        1. Trump was simply a straw from the outside. He’s not doing any digging.

        2. Yeah, looks like it so far, anyway.
          Not sure who is left.
          Looking more and more like partitioning will be the only way to go.

        3. It’s not as simple as an electoral map might make it show. Red states have majority-left cities that would be stranded, and there are vast swathes of the West coast that are Red havens.

        4. Well, I am in one of the bluest states there is.
          Give me a country where individual liberty, freedom of association and private property rights rule, and I’ll move.

        2. God they’re cute!
          But no sound?
          Correction…was my ear phone…was using the broken one…
          BTW, I can understand those armbands.
          Some of the AMP girls I see have complained about how much the Hasids stink the place up when they visit.

    4. I think Hitler learned pretty fast that even controlling and building one nation is not enough.
      Maybe Roger Turk should take notes.

    1. hey iBoob, there you go. this one doesn’t leave a wall of text.

    2. We don’t “have to” exactly. I mean collectively we don’t. But all the cucks ruin it for everyone else.

  24. We should all be honest about what we’re selling in the sexual marketplace. Don’t promote yourself as a rich man if you’re middle-class. Don’t promote yourself as a great wit if your jokes fall flat.
    Find the small niche where you have an advantage, and push that. HARD.

    1. “(…) and push that. HARD.”
      what if there’s only madame five fingers in one’s small niche ? lol

  25. Since patriarchial culture via brotherhood and subsequently marriage is no longer valued, it is a free for all in this feminist culture.
    Get the bang by whatever means, boys.

    1. How long will you keep investing in a losing stock, until you finally sell it?
      Do you see this as part of the problem?

  26. Be mean. Be nasty. Be crude. Don’t ask, demand. Don’t accept, take. Nothing wrong with being Machiavellian in an already satanic world, just don’t join the cult. Protect your dick with condoms, defense soap, body oil, and lemon juice (which can be used to determine if a woman has an STD). Many of these girls, especially in America, are infected with diseases from copulating with animals from africa and arabia. Only take a virgin for a wife, and have lots of kid. I would like to add kill all degenerate scumbags but then there would be nobody left!

    1. Good luck finding that virgin.
      And good luck keeping your daughter that way too.
      Like I said, they belong to the state. Not to you.

        1. Wait, do you mean human children or young goats because these third world peasants often have many kids…we can only hope they don’t use the same ones to feed the village as the ones they use for sex

        2. I just find lofty pronouncements from people without experience, based only on theory that they’ve not actually tested, to be rather…questionable.

        3. None currently.
          I’ve realized I’d like to at some point, but for now I am more focused on the corrupt system we are dealing with.
          I am on the younger side.

        5. not at all…just asking for a clarification on which type of kid GOJ is asking after with regard to this peasant.

        7. That “the state owns them!” That’s nonsense. The state has never, not once, intervened on me while I was raising them (daughter, last one out the door, just graduated high school a few weeks ago). The state, even via the education system, has no real power to shape them that you do not override by being a strong father. Whatever doomsday theories you may hear on the interwebs about dire situations with kids and parents are the insanely minute exception to the rule. Most kids are influenced by the state because dad drops the ball and acts like a beta or omega. A strong father makes everything the exact opposite of how you’d expect if you’re taking these doomsday stories as “normal”.

        8. Well, why would you make this assumption?
          What reason did you have to believe that I live in or am originally from a third world country?
          That’s a bit of excessive and uncalled for projection, wouldn’t you say?
          You are kind of going off on a strange tangent here.

        9. you are correct. I mistook user names you for someone else. In this case I am willing to admit this one is my bad based on not paying close enough attention. Retracted.

        10. Well I’m more than happy to explain and clarify my position in more detail since that is certainly a vague statement I’ve made, but that is more about the nature of ROK comments than about not wanting to do so.
          This is also a extremely important discussion to have too, since it cuts to the core of the underlying basic ideas of how things should ideally be done as opposed to getting caught up in a bunch of distractions.
          First I’d ask, do you believe that male leadership and responsible authority is the proper way for things to be done in relation to women?
          Or do you believe that equality and personal responsibility for both parties is the ideal?
          I’m happy to answer your questions but I hope you’d afford me the same courtesy.
          I feel like a superficial discussion wouldn’t really do it justice.

        11. Fair comment and fair discussion, so right off the bat, thank you for the opportunity to have a civil discussion.

          First I’d ask, do you believe that male leadership and responsible
          authority is the proper way for things to be done in relation to women?

          I don’t just believe it, I know it, from first hand experience. It’s all in how you hold frame. If you don’t have real frame and only “learn alpha” but never internalize it, you’re doomed to frivorce and paying for kids as a surrogate cash mule for 18 years. If you have incorporated alpha to the point that it’s part of you and congruent with everything you do *without having to think about it* then you have a good chance of pulling off the patriarch/pater familias without a hitch.

        13. I’m glad we have at least established that because I feel the same way, that is that it is the ideal for the male to lead and the female to follow in general and that is the normal functional relationship between the two, rather than the typical viewpoint of a equal partnership.
          Not even as a matter of control, I think most women prefer it that way too. It’s a synergistic relationship.
          I believe it is the natural interaction between the two.
          Something I have firsthand experience with as well, since I was not raised by a strong father who ever taught me that and I had to gradually learn to be the aggressor in regards to women to ever get anywhere with them. I didn’t understand that I needed to lead.
          Nevertheless I think a crucial part element of that authority is the leverage to enforce it and think this is where me might disagree.
          I think that a mans natural leverage is his status as provider, a status which I believe men still retain under feminism, but which they can’t use anymore.
          Feminism removes male leverage while maintaining male provision.
          And how is that possible?
          Through the destruction and regulation of the free market by the state.
          And also through the protection and violence monopoly of the state.
          And additionally through the cuckoldry of the modern male, some of which I believe the state programs and encourages as well.
          The state is basically the surrogate alpha male in my mind.
          And I think that is a far higher form of authority than “game” or than the personal frame of any one single man.
          I also believe that this is wrong, that is to forcibly remove a males authority through the proxy of the state while still using him to support it.
          How is that any different than slavery?

        14. And this is important too because it’s related to the general approach to the problem of places like ROK and it’s readership vs other places.
          We all know we have a problem, but we have alot of disagreement among men about what the solution is.
          The approach I’ve seen so far at ROK for the most part is just like you said, having game and holding frame.
          In other words it’s your fault if it doesn’t work.
          If your wife is no longer excited by you one day and decides she is going to take your money and your kids to pursue a casual sex affair and destroy your family in the process, it’s because you didn’t have enough game, not a strong enough frame.
          And there might even be some truth to that statement.
          But I still think that’s also a systemic problem just as much as it’s a personal one.
          And yes in that case for example, it doesn’t matter how alpha you are. The state will come and they will take your money and give it to your wife as a surrogate provider and enable her to sleep with an alpha over being your wife and mother of your kids cause “feminism”.
          That most certainly is an example of state interference right there.
          I’d say that your argument is not that the state is not interfering, it’s more that you can compensate with game and frame.
          But I hope just from that example, it can be become clear that yes the state is in fact interfering. They are definitely not just standing on the sidelines and leaving it in your hands.

        15. I’d also ask you how much of this solution is personal rather than systemic?
          Why only focus on the individual instead of the system as well?

        16. I also believe that the elites have been quite clever in doing this.
          That is to expand their power by gaining the loyalty and support of weaker groups by acting as a forcible tool for them against stronger ones (e.g. men vs women).
          In way if you think about it, they’ve basically turned our own women against us as a way to expand their own power.
          Winning them to the state over their husbands.
          I think they do this alot. They basically win the support of weaker groups by acting as a instrument for them against stronger ones.
          And they turn these groups into conflict versus stronger ones and the ultimate end result is that they get more power and control over both.
          It’s quite clever when you think about it.

        18. I’ll butt in for a sec… A beard helps. The bigger beard the better – and learn how to use your beard signals. Learning to be receptive to your beard is like learning how to ride a bicycle. Your beard can become a neglected bird’s nest or it can be as receptive not only to women, but as receptive to the cosmos as the Arecibo Observatory.
          Under the priestess judges, Egypt domesticated its men to the state by not only removing the hair, but also the genetalia. Castrates were total bitches of the state. Many men today are severely compromised by being clipped, whacked and shaven. Circumcision is effectively the same as partial castration neurologically.
          So keep your dick – uncircumcised is best and GET YOUR BEARD ON – the bigger and bushier the better.
          Circumcised Jews and Muslims are severely handicapped in controlling their women. Without state enforced Sharia, circumcised muslim men would fall into delirium and invade the goat fields while fapping themselves and each other on the way. Jews who aren’t wealthy providers can be found in gay porn the same.
          Conservative Hasids have one empowering thing going to counter being dickchopped and without 80% of the end penile sensory nerve endings intact. The uncircumcised dickhead nerves work in tandem with the temple(reception), nape and third eye(projection or transponding hairs). The temple hairs(sideburn) as per Biblical commandment are grown into long side locks up to a foot long by Hassidic Jews to compensate for being dickchopped. Hasids have as powerful receptor abilities strand for strand with the side locks which they wrap around the ears or curl, as Hitler or Charlie Chaplin had focused projection abilities with the nape stash. The hairs under the nose transmit signals and fields and are most sensitive when pulled. Hitler had a focused frequency ray gun under his nose. Conversely the ‘sideburn’ hairs are special frequency antennae that are receptive to RF and to fields. So the best thing a western white man can begin doing is to quit being a servile beardless bitch – to anyone including the state. Henry Ford Sr expounded on this in his work the ‘International Jew’.
          Civil War generals all had robust powerbeards and/or especially side hairs extending from the temples. Note Union Gen Ambrose Burnsides (RI)
          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7y3oIaVMAEF36F.jpg
          The powerbearded generals would sit high atop their horses, calmly swaying from side to side as balls of shot whizzed by. A beard is essential for a position of command. It is reported that a pushing sensation on the beard indicates eminant or impending danger in the vicinity. Trending also with PUAs is the bearded look. Foreboding maneater women are instinctly avoided and nexted without thinking twice when THE BEARD warns you. It’s the bare butt faced beta that marries that foreboding bad woman and experiences the full hell ride she has up her sleeve.
          GET YOUR BEARD ON and keep waging battle against the enemy smartly and with alertness from the beard signals. Learn to read your beard and then you can also read the right women to breed.

    1. Gtfo
      The west is the absolufe best place in the world for men who are not afraid to conpete for resources and who are not so weak that they feel they have to lower their standards.
      Leaving the west is basically saying “fuck it, I can’t hang with the big boys”

      1. Lmfao, you are a complete fool, this website is built on false logic. You don’t need resources to attract women, just don’t be a bitch. Women in the west are entitled empowered and just fugly for the most part. The west is a complete joke and the united states is a paper tiger that will collapse once the oil is gone. I lived in the states for 20 years and I had the worst depression here, I hope that warmongering piece of shit country drowns in its own blood with its weak men and slutty women. Have a nice day.

        1. Not much of a reader are you? At no point did I say that one needs resources for women.
          The west must seem like a real joke to the people who are too weak to compete and too stupid to read

        2. I read but most of what’s on here is complete and utter nonsense. And I really think it’s because Americans try to apply American philosophy to the rest of the world. Open your eyes learn another language, learn how other people live around the world, and you’ll quickly realize how much you don’t know.

        3. I didn’t write most of what’s on here nor did you comment on most of what’s on here. You commented to me and showed a full misunderstanding of what you read. What you think about anything is meaningless to everyone until you show you aren’t some drooling moron which, to be honest, you haven’t.
          Your assumption on the number of languages I know shows you are judging me based on no information whatsoever and are incorrect which makes you, as far as I can tell, some backwater idiot with no real brains and just prejudices based on Ignorance, a lack of education and probably a family of very stupid people.

        5. Ugh. Fucking peasants. Don’t you have a goat to sodomize. I am starting to see why Monsieur likes the aristocracy. They kept the rabble from speaking in the public square

        6. What countries are you referencing specifically, which are superior and immune?
          If it happened to the USA and Western Europe, what makes you so confident the government and people where you live could resist the injection either?
          I think you far overestimate the average person.

        7. Western Europe and the USA are cowards, the Rothschild’s or whoever you blame for your demise, are anally raping you everyday and you just let it happen… So weak and pathetic.

        9. That’s an umbrella that includes you as well.
          Unless you really think that you are somehow immune.
          So I guess you can get in the boat along with everyone else.
          You didn’t answer my question and that’s beginning to make me distrust your good intentions in this discussion, since that was already my point to begin with and you just repeated it in a more crass way instead of furthering the discussion.
          Are you just trying to be a jerk on the internet or are you trying to have a real discussion?

        10. Look sweetheart, I ain’t afraid to die, but I will not die for the good will of the united states. I have my own problems to solve in my country. Now, I urge you to figure out exactly how you are being anally raped to the detail, and go inform others. Henceforth bring regime change and rid yourself of toxic leadership. But Americans are weak and pathetic. They are on their fat ass watching TV or whatever else, completely brainwashed and stupid to think for their future. In the best case they will protect their masters so they can get a cheeseburger from McDonald’s tomorrow. I guess the solution is to continue receiving a big black dick up your ass for eternity 😂😂😂

        11. I think your efforts would be better directed at your own elites, than at mockery of other plebes.
          But I guess everyone needs a hobby.
          If a weak attempt at power on the internet is the best round you have in the chamber than have at it.
          It only hurts your own bottom line, after all.

        12. Ah, yes, the “Stooopid American” argument.
          Get something new, Buckwheat, that dog don’t hunt any more.
          Lolknee is right to call you out.

        13. Your elites are trying to control my country and they can’t. They want to turn the whole world to shit, and I won’t let them. So unfortunately, it is in my best interest to mock you to get up and do something about this “problem” we both have. I am in a place where the west has not jurisdiction. So I can post whatever I want and not deal with the serfs that will come lock me up for feeding ideas that might topple their power structure.

        14. Well you don’t have to tell me twice man, I am already angry and mobilized.
          I think it’d be better to try to get the reasonable people to stand together as one and counter the elites as their own elite, in the exact same fashion they do to us, than to try to talk reason to the idiots.
          After all we are talking about people here who are not even moved by the bombing and killing of children.
          I think what’s more significant is the fractured nature of the opposition to the elites, rather than the stupidity of the regular joe.
          I am not sure if we can change that level of stupid, but we sure as hell can work together with other reasonable angry people to attempt to effect change, which we are not currently doing on a significant and aggressive scale.

    2. Always anything except fighting back.
      3 cherished solutions of ROK:
      – Run away (leave the west)
      – Pursue meaningless sex with whores (“but i’m an alpha!”)
      – Give token resistance at the local level
      If I was a globalist I’d probably make extensive use of ROK as controlled opposition.
      If that’s the best you can do, you are going to get rolled on, plain and simple.
      Lets all just cower in the corner and pretend it isn’t happening. Maybe it will fix itself.

        1. It’s the world’s problem man.
          If you think this is a region specific problem, then I have got some bad news.

        2. Actually you are your own problem: weak, sad, ineffecual, impotent and without a shread of brains, heart or masculinity.
          I guess the world needs shit farmers, but for the life of me I can’t understand why you are allowed an internet connection.

        3. If I saw you in person you would be shitting your teeth that I punched in a day ago.

        4. Curb the enthusiasm Mighty Keyboard Warrior, member of the 201st Keyboard Brigade. You’re biting off more than you can chew and you don’t realize it.

        5. OK then gentlemen. Unfortunately I cannot post my vivid imagination here. The authorities will take it as a threat to national security and arrest me on the border if I decide to add it to our spectacular discussion. I will accept defeat and retreat back to the kitchen, I am hungry.

        6. ha. I am sure many people feel the need to void their bowels after seeing you. In fact, I would bet it is down right common. For what reason I couldn’t venture a guess. However, as an internet tough guy making threats I must say, it is fairly pathetic.

        7. no, like I said above,…..I totally believe that people have the uncontrollable urge to defecate upon seeing their young man lol

      2. Give token resistance at the local level? Dude, that’s the only level where you have any real influence. Outside of inciting a national revolution and spearheading a charge into D.C., there is simply no other path to changing society and culture. If you can get your state government to go against most Federal bullshit, how is that not good change?
        If you want to spearhead an armed charge into D.C. then be my guest.

        1. Because I believe elites are playing a more effective high level game than that.
          I don’t believe we will be able to beat them at their own game, through their own rules.
          Or to use frame, I don’t think we can beat them within their own frame.
          The only thing that can stop them is a competing frame rather than beating them at their own frame.
          Just like if you are talking to a girl and she is taking a negative frame of you, the correct response isn’t to accept it and then prove her wrong, it’s to introduce a competing one and make her choose one of the two instead. That’s called leadership.
          I wouldn’t necessarily say an armed charge at this point, but we should most certainly be fighting an aggressive and vicious campaign for the minds of the people and especially the minds of men.
          Along with re masculinizing men as much as we possibly can.
          And creating a group that can protect and fight for itself as an organization rather than as an individual.
          We can start there.
          Beats dying on your knees.

  28. Why women (especially “awkward female commenter”) are not being banned from this comment section?

    1. Banning is on this thread is reserved for stalkers, trolls, and blatant creeps. Yes, it does sometimes make conversation awkward at times, but that is the beauty of free speech. If they tick enough off, they will be called out and go to another site.

      1. I did not say that I am in favor of banning comments on this site. I just asked this based of the nature of the community rooshv.com, where we find more strict rules.

  29. I’m actually of the mind to help the competition, because really, there’s not much competition out there to begin with. Lots of floundering guys.
    I went to a Country music/dance bar last night because it was too cold to ride around on the motorcycle. Huge crowd, just huge, filled with 80% really nice looking chicks and 20% guys. Of the 80% chicks there might be one or two (literally) subpar but most were smoking hot, thin, in dresses, etc. Perfect environment.
    Two dudes sat down next to me, Millenials, must have been just barely 21. One was some Asian kid (as in a gook looking type, not Hindu/Paki) with “ironic” glasses and the other was a typical specimen of Ohio young male – blonde, blue eyed, pleasant, decent looking, not “ironic-ed” up.
    The normal Ohio dude (hereafter referred to as “white guy”) was there, so he told me, just to look at the eye candy and have a drink. Something about a girl recently dumping him, but he wasn’t crying in his beer nor did he dwell on it, he mentioned it once and that was the end of the discussion.
    The “ironic” dude (herafter referred to as JapMan) was a total basket case. He was all about some bizarre type of “game” thing and wanted to get his buddy to “understand that he can still pick up women”. So JapMan would go and find the one or two girls in the place who were not smoking hot, aka – overweight, and bring them over to his buddy and then engage in this….banter…that was, without any question whatsoever, based on being gay. The “oooooh mah gawwd! Fabulous!” type of talk. The fatties would sit down, get real spooked by JapMan and leave. White guy wouldn’t say anything and didn’t play along.
    After a few rounds of this (JapMan also brought over a couple of decent looking girls who, of course, went into full retreat when he started acting like a faggot) I up and told JapMan “Dude, why are you doing this? Your buddy isn’t interested and your game is absolutely the weakest thing I’ve ever seen in my life”
    “But I’m bring over the girls aren’t I?!?”
    “Yeah, for 30 seconds, before they bolt like scared deer on the road at the approach of a car. You’re doing it wrong. This place is where women come when they want to find men who are traditional and who have high testosterone. You’re playing to everything they want to avoid”
    “But dude, really, I’m getting the girls over here aren’t I?!?”
    “Yeah, and then scaring them away by acting gay”
    *Startle SJW Triggered Look*
    “Wh…what did you just say?!?”
    His buddy laughs and *agrees with me*.
    “You heard me, you’re acting like a faggot in a place where women come to find, for lack of a better term, real men. You will go home with 0 women tonight from this place. Zero.”
    “Look man, I get the girls over here!”
    “Most of them are fat”
    His buddy nods and *agrees with me* in words.
    “But they’re not fat on the inside, they’re human beings, we’re all beautiful, blah blah blah…”
    “No man, they’re fat, and however they are on the inside, a normal man’s dick will shrivel if it sees one of them naked”
    His buddy laughs out loud and says “Yep”
    JapMan was *very* put out. He moped a bit then offered to “shake your hand and buy you a drink, to show that I’m not mad that you got this whole thing wrong”
    I declined the drink, then bought his buddy a beer and told him “If you get to the point where you’re looking for another girl, don’t bring this guy along”
    Shook hands. JapMan stomped to some other place in the bar.
    Helping man. We have to help men these days. Fuck “alpha” or “beta”, we’re all in this together in a sense, and if a man is receptive to listening, give him some solid advice and help him if you’re feeling generous. It’s not like we have this thin edge of success or failure, really.

    1. Agreed, Some guys just don’t get it. Throughout high school, I behaved like a needy beta. I had a muscular build and a funny personality, but would zero in on a certain girl and creep her out, then find another girl to zero in on. Two good friends of mine gave me some advice and I eventually learned how to better attract women. It is blatantly obvious when you see it from the outside, but when you are the one making the mistakes, you don’t understand why.

      1. JapMan, dunno what he was doing, but he was right insofar as he was luring girls over. He’d disappear and arrive ten minutes later with two in tow. My guess here is extreme beta provider game “Let me buy you a drink and introduce you to my nice friend” or something. That still has some pull out here in Flyover, so maybe that’s it. I do know that the moment they’d arrive and drinks were in hand he turned into Girl Repellent. I can’t imagine what he was thinking or why he thought it would work, given the milieu and context of the environment he was doing it in. Gay game in a place where women come to look for high T masculine men – teh stoopidz.

        1. Probably some comedic routine that he found and thought was funny and was trying to emulate. Trying too hard.

        2. It’s hard to explain except to say that it really wasn’t funny even in a “gay” way, it was like he was trying to be gay AND get directly into their friend zone “Giiiiirlfriiiiend!”.
          On the up side, white guy basically agreed with everything I was saying and was clearly embarrassed by JapMan, so there is some hope.

        3. Takes awhile to unplug from the system, especially if you grew up with TV, going to public school, etc.

      2. ‘…..you don’t understand why.’
        Because.
        Because………………
        BecaUSE GAAAAA…………..

    2. I don’t recall which number it is, but one of the 48 Laws is to avoid the unlucky.

    3. Ask yourself this: JapMan finds a woman, has kid (plural) and produces more of his kind. Will that make the world a better or worse place for us?
      Would not help. Nature is correcting some of its mistakes me thinks.

    5. Thanks, enjoyed that. Ohio dude sounds like he has potential, just needs the right mentor. And that’s the beauty of this site, hope you mentioned it to him.

  30. another day another 12 to 1 female ratio in a california starbucks..and the female is an old lady..thank goodness I live outside the matrix half the year..most males here are in denial begging for scraps

    1. “another day another 12 to 1 female ratio in a california starbucks..and the female is an old lady..thank goodness I live outside the matrix half the year..most males here are in denial begging for scraps”
      Tell me ’bout it. I posted a while back about an american guy age 33 I ran into in south america who was screwing a bunch of hookers before he flew back to the states to marry his 50 year old fiancé.

      1. “his 50 year old fiancé.”
        Hope she is rich as fuck so he can stop working and spend most his time with SA hookers on the card of his cougar wife.

  31. Learn another language and travel! In places like Colombia and Ukraine, finding women to enjoy is way easier than in male thirsty countries like the USA!

    1. Yes, those girls from 3rd world countries love western men. Hopefully they’ll get their green cards. Don’t forget your American flag!!!!

    2. Used to be that American and North European men had the highest status anywhere they went in the world. Now we are still enjoying that status from the old times in some countries that are poor and not up to date with the changes in our countries and the fall of the western man. But believe me they are catching up fast and the competition from the new and coming is real. Men from Korea and Japan rank higher in Asia for example.

    3. I dunno in Columbia, but i went in Kiev several times and everythings changed since the love boat docked at the Dnipro river pal, they are mostly gold diggers sluts, i saw this by myself AND asking my befriend male there (regular good men who understand they can’t have a decent gal without lots of money) because outlaws Olygarcs there got everythings and local mafia runs the shows everywhere, recently Turkish people are swarming the Kiev street with lots of money but no game whatsoever, so the situation is getting worse each year!
      However the pros are they are beautiful and cheaper, but i will never consider to marry one and live there.

  32. In my area competition sometimes means litteraly fighting someone. If you have an attractive woman on your arm it’s not uncommon for some tall fat guy who hits the gym once a week to come strutting over and try to intimidate you in an attempt to attract your bitch. Usually all these guys have is size to intimidate and they use it a lot but they have nothing to back it up. When you show them you mean business they always back down. Unless of course they are drunk then you will have to throw down. Most of the time these fatties are all show and get their asses handed to them pretty quick. We’re not talking about real gym rats here just tall fat pussies who use their size to intimidate. The last one I had to handle was nearly a foot taller than me and outweighed me by a hundred pounds. This is such a common thing where I live.

      1. Hahaha I live in kentucky. It’s not about the girls. I fucking hate white knights, it’s about the disrespect. These guys have zero game so they do the only thing they know how and that’s throw their weight around to get attention. It’s pathetic. They’re also the first ones to get pussy whipped. I see the same guys every day following their girlfriend’s around and carrying those stupid little rat looking dogs for them. Biggest pussies on earth but they do get some pretty decent looking girls sometimes. It’s just all fake bravado. It’s amusing but a huge annoyance.

  34. Went to great concert with good friend of mine last night. I stopped aggressive lifting 15 months ago due to financial focus, job change, and the need to test my joint recovery ability after 8 years of hard lifting destroying my joints with permanent damage.
    He’s as big/strong as I was 2 years ago, couple years younger than me, cycles some test for a boost… something I never tried. About 6’4″ 256 Lbs. I’m only about 6’4″ 210 now, and literally lost 50 lbs of mass. Switcheroo in builds. We’ve got relatively similar game-levels, charisma, etc. The buff body definitely wins the ticket with hotties no matter how you slice it. A sexy 8, 4’11” bleach blond cutie glued herself to him about an hour before the show ended. I started chatting up her 6ish cousin, same height, just not as bangin of body.. little chunky. Coulda both likely bagged them had logistics been right, and no work next day, but had to go.
    Rare for me to take second choice interest among girls in my group of buddies, but the reality hit mildly last night. Someone always has you beat, and that’s OK, just don’t forget it OR let it get you down, ease back into correcting your weaknesses.

  36. Competition for women is highest in North America. Even in Western Europe which has feminism, its not hard to meet women. I had no problems in Germany, even was there recently, while things have changed there, in the smaller cities its very easy to meet women looking for companionship compared to the US. Just keep it relevant when you meet them and avoid politics and other things that might make her vagina dry. Western Euro women are not marriage material but if you compare them to most American women, at least they take better care of themselves.
    London is really an “American” city than a European one, as far as the guys with Ferraris and Lamborghinis in London, most of them are Arabs. The London scene has more in common with Los Angeles and New York than it does with Munich and Rome. Even in a stuck up city like Paris, I was able to hook up in 24 hours, and I do not own a car worth more than a house.
    Even in the UK, if you go outside of London, culturally Britain is much different, more conservative than the South, which is globalist money money. That being said British women are really not worth it when there are better options elsewhere on the mainland continent.
    I remember meeting some woman from Oregon in Germany who was complaining that the “women’s movement” there was 30 years behind the US. That was a while back but the American style degeneracy penetrates more easily and rapidly in countries with large English speaking populations. That is why countries like Australia, the UK, and Canada are just as bad as the US.

    1. It is dire in New Zealand. Sad to see “men” fighting over 4’s – madness! MGTOW or save up and go abroad are the only sane options.

  37. i do not agree woth the article, the reasons?
    Marriage?
    Are you trying to seduce such girl because you want her as your wife? stop and wait, that gal “may” be a good bang, but im sure she saw buckets of sperm, especially if she’s beautiful and in shape. she will not cook for you, or be faithful, the law is against you, and don’t forget women hypergamy also, one day she will wake up and will say to gtfo, keep kids, home, car and get your money lifetime.
    but maybe this is not the reason, maybe it will be Sex?
    With the law against you, if you want to have sex, TODAY, better rent an escort, why? 100% sex guaranteed! no hidden fees! learning game could provide “someone” with a free pussy, but this is the exception, not the rule! the rule is that pussy is worth money, hence choose how much you want to pay and how much you want to keep it real, because as stated in this article, many men spends money without scoring any chicks! many go outside being a buffon in the hope to entertain enought a slut for a free ride! remember, if you have money, women come to ya and spread their legs quickly and they doesn’t care if you are bald or fat, hell they prefer bad boys!!
    Also there are many starving average joe’s outta there looking for pussy, women today simply choose the best they can, i call this the “cuba syndrome” why?
    When you arrive in Cuba, it doesn’t matter if you are bald or old or young or else, women are proactively looking for you(r money) reverse and you understand the society you are living in, women simply choose the wealthy man or the best pick, they litterally don’t give a fuck for anything else, since there are thousands of starving average joe’s, pua, regular guy, and so on looking to please/entertain/fuck her!
    more gold advices from A.V. Yader here:

    How To Deal With People Who Hate On Your Lifestyle

  38. Kind of bogus, I know a few of these so called hot women and believe me, they tell me that most of the guys who lavish money and gifts on them , they regards as born losers who never get anything from them.
    Anyway if you are going to spend all that money for women who look just above average without the enhancements and make-up, why not just use a good clean fresh escort, costs less and probably more enjoyable.

  39. Back 20 years ago I used to night game a lot in clubs and did well except it was too dangerous as thugs wanted to constantly fight me because the woman rejected them in favor of me. Now day game is better for me as it is more relaxed. But I really don’t need pussy like most guys as once you push 50 you can enjoy other things besides satisfy libido. It is cheaper to just rent pussy when you get older anyways and less hassle! Rather invest millions in real estate, stock portfolio, exotic cars, planes, boats and more joy giving toys than be a monkey on a stick chasing whores anyways. I think Roosh will eventually come to a similar realization when he is 50+

  40. Hello everyone. I am a woman who has been reading these articles for a while now. I moved to the U.S. when I was young with my parents but was raised in a very traditional Albanian household. I stumbled onto this website mainly trying to figure out why it is so difficult for me to connect with American women. I am in college and all they want to do is get drunk at the bar every night. It is very frustrating and also pretty lonely.
    I find your content interesting but what I am curious about is how “good” women react to you men that practice game and are pick up artists. For example, I want to find a traditional man to start a family with but I know I would never want to be with someone who has bedded lots of women even if he has the other qualities I am looking for. Would be interesting to hear some responses!
    Also, it is common to place the blame all on women here but American men also do not want serious relationships! But maybe it’s because these are the college years..

    1. I stumbled onto this website mainly trying to figure out why it is so difficult for me to connect with American women.

      …Because they’re nearly all sluts and very probably want to make you into a slut, too. Sluts don’t like chaste women showing them up for what they are. (I assume you’re chaste, given your background.)

      For example, I want to find a traditional man to start a family with but
      I know I would never want to be with someone who has bedded lots of
      women even if he has the other qualities I am looking for. Would be
      interesting to hear some responses!

      Although this was initially a PUA site, these days there’s a more diverse readership — not all of us are PUAs (I’m not: I’m a Christian and come here because I agree with what Roosh et al say about finding a wife who’s a virgin to marry — but finding a godly, submissive, virgin wife is like finding a diamond in a dunghill in the West).

      1. I am not fond of name calling but you are correct. It is so crazy, they have no hobbies, no desire to learn-just going to parties!
        Yes I am chaste and want to remain this way until I find a good man.
        I wish you good luck in finding a suitable wife. I imagine it would be a little easier in Christian communities?

        1. Yes I am chaste and want to remain this way until I find a good man.

          Good for you — I hope you succeed. Again, there are good men out there who will appreciate this, despite what debauched women and the mainstream media say. Tune out their lies and stick to your principles.

          I wish you good luck in finding a suitable wife.

          Thanks.

          I imagine it would be a little easier in Christian communities?

          Not as easy as you might imagine… Unfortunately the way women are today in the West has had bad effects on the churches. Women in churches think (and sadly behave) increasingly like secular women. It is a big problem for Christian men. There are still some women who are more traditionally minded in churches, but there are a lot of women who are not and don’t really believe the Bible — and who make trouble as a result. Still, I keep looking!
          …Perhaps you yourself might have more success in finding female friends in a small Bible-believing church in your area or in a Christian group at your college (although I have often found that women who claim to be Christian are not really Christian at all). …And you may even find a decent, marriage-minded man there: certainly there’ll be good men seeking a virgin to marry.
          I wish you well, anyway, Katerina…

  42. The more I read Troy’s articles, the more I realized how bleak and dark the current climate has become. Not because I am unable or unwilling to continue the quest of self-mastery ( I am and I always will and definitely not for some sluts), but rather the depths and depravity that womenfolk have sunk too.

  44. Good article, but remember that Bilzerian (pictured at top) does a lot of P4P to maintain the appearance of his super alpha lifestyle.

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